Monday Night Acoustic Excellence: Daniel Voth, "Trancendance"

Monday Night Acoustic Excellence: Daniel Voth, “Trancendance”

MusicNovember 2016 • Views: 48,976

Here’s an amazing piece by guitarist Daniel Voth, very reminiscent of a Steve Reich composition with its hypnotically repetitive, subtly evolving patterns.

Title track from Daniel Voth’s new record release ‘Trancendance’.
CDs, Mp3 and Wave file Downloads, Guitar Tabs available now at
http://www.candyrat.com/artists/danielvoth/

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4NxQ21x77UQdpyEVnIbfxu
Apple Music: https://itun.es/us/Dmz4N
itunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/trancendance/id1171440391
Amazon: http://a.co/iLmdwqn

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electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 5:17:28pm

In case anyone missed it:

VIDEO: Anti-Trump protestor tackled while delivering speech in the Union pic.twitter.com/3ctSlWvgwW

— The Lantern (@TheLantern) November 14, 2016

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nines09 Nov 14, 2016 • 5:19:07pm

re: #1 electrotek

Expect to see more. Trump wants to hold rallies. After he’s in office. What can go wrong?

Emptor scriptor Remorse Nov 14, 2016 • 5:20:35pm

re: #1 electrotek

What is that around the speakers(the man with the bullhorn) neck?

Charles Johnson Nov 14, 2016 • 5:23:08pm

KKK, American Nazi Party praise Trump’s hiring of Bannon https://t.co/uAC17jes2k pic.twitter.com/pxPfuglBEP

— The Hill (@thehill) November 14, 2016

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Folks, it’s real simple. Good, decent, inclusive Americans who believe in equality, do not get praised by the American Nazi Party and KKK. https://t.co/39jQuWabWI

— Ana Navarro (@ananavarro) November 14, 2016

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 14, 2016 • 5:24:15pm

re: #3 Emptor scriptor Remorse

What is that around the speakers neck?

Looks like a shemagh

Charles Johnson Nov 14, 2016 • 5:24:35pm

@joshtpm You can have the moldy bread but I call dibs on the watery gruel.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 15, 2016

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Kragar Nov 14, 2016 • 5:25:28pm

BREAKING: AP source: Rudy Giuliani the favorite to be Trump’s secretary of state.

— The Associated Press (@AP) November 15, 2016

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Believe it or not, compared to John Bolton, this is actually good news. That’s how far we’ve fallen. https://t.co/O1OkVHDLu3

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) November 15, 2016

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Nov 14, 2016 • 5:25:39pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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JFC Bannon—get a fucking haircut! Or let it grow long enough to do something with. And try taking a fucking shower!

Decatur Deb Nov 14, 2016 • 5:27:16pm

Maybe Rudy can negotiate a truce between Staten Island and Uppa Wesside.

Kragar Nov 14, 2016 • 5:27:53pm

Today was fun. I had people telling me:

Hitler did nothing wrong.

Being called a Nazi was a compliment.

The Nazis were actually leftists (My personal favorite)

and assorted other dreck.

Decatur Deb Nov 14, 2016 • 5:30:57pm

re: #10 Kragar

Today was fun. I had people telling me:

Hitler did nothing wrong.

Being called a Nazi was a compliment.

The Nazis were actually leftists (My personal favorite)

and assorted other dreck.

As our fathers die, they take the truth with them.

TedStriker Nov 14, 2016 • 5:33:11pm

re: #2 nines09

Expect to see more. Trump wants to hold rallies. After he’s in office. What can go wrong?

I wonder if Trump’s going to build a dedicated parade ground for these rallies…something like this:

/semi

electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 5:33:15pm

re: #10 Kragar

Today was fun. I had people telling me:

Hitler did nothing wrong.

Being called a Nazi was a compliment.

The Nazis were actually leftists (My personal favorite)

and assorted other dreck.

I don’t know why ANY WW2 vet would vote for Trump. I mean, WTF man???

GlutenFreeJesus Nov 14, 2016 • 5:34:41pm

Gee CNN. It’s a little late for this bullshit. Don’t you think?

White nationalists see advocate in Steve Bannon who will hold Trump to his campaign promises

nines09 Nov 14, 2016 • 5:35:34pm

re: #12 TedStriker

I’m all out of snark. I’m having a hard time finding any of it funny in any way.

GlutenFreeJesus Nov 14, 2016 • 5:35:41pm

re: #1 electrotek

I did miss it. I could tell what happened. But is there an article/link?

HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 5:36:51pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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Jesus.

electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 5:37:20pm

re: #16 GlutenFreeJesus

I did miss it. I could tell what happened. But is there an article/link?

There was a local news report here in DFW (KDAF affiliate news I think) a week or two ago about early voters and one of the people interviewed was a World War 2 veteran that fought to liberate Normandy and stated he was voting for Trump.

And I went on Twitter and found this:

My grandfather and Trumpster is a 99 yr old WW2 brace veteran who loves his family and country Happy Veterans Day! pic.twitter.com/it6v6iB3fq

— Gekko for Trump (@richiebuono) November 12, 2016

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 5:37:37pm

re: #7 Kragar

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I thought Rudy was going to be AG. At least Bolton has some understanding of the world. I don’t know if Rudy has it.

Charles Johnson Nov 14, 2016 • 5:37:57pm

My day on Twitter has been a relentless storm of right wing derp, hate speech, racism and antisemitism. Wheee!

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 15, 2016

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Don’t take this the wrong way, but would you mind going somewhere ASAP and fucking yourself? @SolutreanW

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 15, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 14, 2016 • 5:38:18pm

re: #7 Kragar

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AP source: Rudy Giuliani the favorite to be Trump’s secretary of state. https://t.co/R4refeF9nX

— The Associated Press (@AP) November 15, 2016

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We can stop and frisk the world! https://t.co/6XYpebRsvL

— Bakari Sellers (@Bakari_Sellers) November 15, 2016

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 5:38:50pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

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OFFS these people.

BeachDem Nov 14, 2016 • 5:39:04pm

re: #10 Kragar

Today was fun. I had people telling me:

Hitler did nothing wrong.

Being called a Nazi was a compliment.

The Nazis were actually leftists (My personal favorite)

and assorted other dreck.

This is why I’ve only left the house twice since last Tuesday. (haven’t even gone out to get my mail)

ipsos Nov 14, 2016 • 5:39:32pm

If nothing else, I’m counting on Schumer and the Dems to make these confirmation hearings very, very interesting.

HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 5:39:46pm

I got my own family telling me I’m worrying oto much and to give Trump a chance. All supported Clinton FWIW. I really don’t think I’m being hysterical at all seeing who Trump is putting in to positions of influence.

Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 14, 2016 • 5:40:41pm

re: #19 HappyWarrior

I thought Rudy was going to be AG. At least Bolton has some understanding of the world. I don’t know if Rudy has it.

Rudy said tonight that he won’t be AG

Lancelot Link Nov 14, 2016 • 5:40:57pm

Have they gotten around to appointing Cliven Bundy to head the BLM yet?

GlutenFreeJesus Nov 14, 2016 • 5:41:10pm

re: #18 electrotek

Hmmm. There’s a video in your post #1 where an obvious Trump supporter ran down the stairs and shoved a guy with a bullhorn in the back and down the stairs. That’s what I was wondering about.

I did hear about the WWII veteran though…

GlutenFreeJesus Nov 14, 2016 • 5:42:19pm

re: #24 ipsos

If nothing else, I’m counting on Schumer and the Dems to make these confirmation hearings very, very interesting.

They better do their homework and find some interesting solutions.

Charles Johnson Nov 14, 2016 • 5:42:24pm

Who would be a better Secretary of State?

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 15, 2016

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electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 5:42:57pm

re: #28 GlutenFreeJesus

Hmmm. There’s a video in your post #1 where an obvious Trump supporter ran down the stairs and shoved a guy with a bullhorn in the back and down the stairs. That’s what I was wondering about.

I did hear about the WWII veteran though…

Oh my bad, I misread the post number.

It happened at Ohio State, The Lantern’s website has more information.

The Lantern

BeachDem Nov 14, 2016 • 5:43:13pm

re: #28 GlutenFreeJesus

Hmmm. There’s a video in your post #1 where an obvious Trump supporter ran down the stairs and shoved a guy with a bullhorn in the back and down the stairs. That’s what I was wondering about.

I did hear about the WWII veteran though…

The video with the asshole tackling the guy is from Ohio State. The twitter account is for the school newspaper, the Lantern.

nines09 Nov 14, 2016 • 5:44:21pm

re: #18 electrotek

Moron.

TedStriker Nov 14, 2016 • 5:45:03pm

re: #15 nines09

I’m all out of snark. I’m having a hard time finding any of it funny in any way.

I understand, this past week has been one giant sinkhole of suck and it doesn’t look to get any better any time soon

But, y’know, you gotta keep it light sometimes, otherwise you’ll be able to do nothing but cry.

GlutenFreeJesus Nov 14, 2016 • 5:45:38pm

re: #31 electrotek

Ok thanks!

electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 5:46:17pm

World War 2 vet from the UK:

Donald Trump vows to immediately deport 3million illegal immigrants https://t.co/nN23GRNRk4

— Telegraph News (@TelegraphNews) November 13, 2016

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I’ve seen these days before and I can tell you it doesn’t end well for the common folk. https://t.co/oFe1la0V6n

— Harry Leslie Smith (@Harryslaststand) November 13, 2016

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nines09 Nov 14, 2016 • 5:47:31pm

re: #34 TedStriker

Oh, I know. Tank runs dry sometimes. Humor is my shield, and sarcasm my blade. Right now my humor is dry and my wit is anger. So….

bratwurst Nov 14, 2016 • 5:47:47pm

There is one huge reason why Keith Ellison should NOT be DNC chair:

THIS HAS TO BE A FULL TIME JOB!

Thank you.

MsJ Nov 14, 2016 • 5:47:49pm

I am embarrassed to be an American. 😡

Charles Johnson Nov 14, 2016 • 5:48:15pm

re: #10 Kragar

Today was fun. I had people telling me:

Hitler did nothing wrong.

Being called a Nazi was a compliment.

The Nazis were actually leftists (My personal favorite)

and assorted other dreck.

It’s been completely fucking insane on Twitter today. One of those days that makes me wonder why I’m on Twitter at all.

But I refuse to let these microcephalic jerk-offs win.

Timothy Watson Nov 14, 2016 • 5:49:55pm

It’s amazing how easy it is to manipulate the lamestream media and get the Bannon story off the front page.

electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 5:50:08pm

I’m just in awe with the number of Trump supporters that are WW2 veterans:

My 93 year old father, Veteran of WWII in the Pacific, voted for Trump today. #IVOTED pic.twitter.com/39PaD2ExYN

— MicroTurkeyLeaks™ (@WDFx2EU8) November 8, 2016

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91 year old WWII veteran here at the Trump camp in Manchester. He’s a very spirited man who is chatting up the media. @NECN pic.twitter.com/ovaaB0KXgk

— Kathryn Sotnik (@KathrynNECN) November 9, 2016

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My DAD is 90 years old and a WWII Veteran. He said, if this country wants to remain free, Vote TRUMP! #ElectionFinalThoughts #ElectionDay

— DEPLORABLE Eagle (@Sick62Tired) November 8, 2016

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Just talked to my 90 year old WWII veteran father. He said he went out and voted for Trump. Its a movement folks. Go @realDonaldTrump

— hedgerisk (@shortdelta) November 5, 2016

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A 90 year old WWII veteran came into York County headquarters for TRUMP▶ signs. He is a life long Democrat who says his party betrayed him.

— Frank Cabanas (@CabanasFrank) October 29, 2016

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A local WWII veteran says his free speech has been stolen, along with a pro-Trump magnet off his truck.https://t.co/ycK1eoM2ZK pic.twitter.com/Llaff4MRFM

— CBS 6 Albany - WRGB (@CBS6Albany) October 26, 2016

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Saluting my Dad, today, a 93 yr. Old WWII Veteran! He voted for Trump, too! :) pic.twitter.com/gigQCrjSDP

— Deplorable Fran (@iluvdino1) November 11, 2016

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electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 5:50:57pm

Apologies for the multiple tweet links, I’m just in shock yet again over the “Greatest Generation” turning against the fight they participated in and succumbing to a demagogue.

Decatur Deb Nov 14, 2016 • 5:51:31pm

re: #39 MsJ

I am embarrassed to be an American. 😡

Che cosa?

retired cynic Nov 14, 2016 • 5:51:33pm

re: #43 electrotek

Apologies for the multiple tweet links, I’m just in shock yet again over the “Greatest Generation” turning against the fight they participated in and succumbing to a demagogue.

It makes me ill.

HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 5:52:36pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rudy said tonight that he won’t be AG

Oh okay. So SOS it will likely be?

electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 5:52:37pm

This is not how I wanted to celebrate my 32nd birthday.

And I question why I keep people on my FB who vote Trump. I think I’m just TOO damn tolerant for my own good.

Nyet Nov 14, 2016 • 5:53:22pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

So far I’ve been blocked by several neo-Nazis. It was fun.

Belafon Nov 14, 2016 • 5:53:30pm

re: #39 MsJ

I am embarrassed to be an American. 😡

I’m angry at the 70+% of those who either voted for Trump or didn’t vote at all. I refuse to entertain any other emotion towards them. I’ll back off if I start seeing them turning around.

HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 5:53:42pm

re: #45 retired cynic

It makes me ill.

It makes me sad.

electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 5:53:56pm

re: #48 Nyet

So far I’ve been blocked by several neo-Nazis. It was fun.

Why do they block if they don’t like “safe spaces”?

BeachDem Nov 14, 2016 • 5:53:58pm

re: #38 bratwurst

There is one huge reason why Keith Ellison should NOT be DNC chair:

THIS HAS TO BE A FULL TIME JOB!

Thank you.

Was talking about this with some Dem friends yesterday—as some folks here had brought up the other day about the idea of having co-chairs—one as the face of the DNC (Ellison) and one to do the nitty-gritty work (like Dean or similar)

There is precedent for that in the DNC—back in the 1990s, Don Fowler was National Chairman while Chris Dodd served as “General Chairman.”

I really think that’s a good way to go.

GlutenFreeJesus Nov 14, 2016 • 5:54:04pm

re: #43 electrotek

Difference is. Trump is our demagogue.

electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 5:54:10pm

re: #49 Belafon

I’m angry at the 70+% of those who either voted for Trump or didn’t vote at all. I refuse to entertain any other emotion towards them. I’ll back off if I start seeing them turning around.

Or voted 3rd party.

Nyet Nov 14, 2016 • 5:54:45pm

re: #42 electrotek

No need to post all these shitheads (yes, I mean the useless vets) here.

GlutenFreeJesus Nov 14, 2016 • 5:54:51pm

re: #54 electrotek

I think they qualify as “didn’t vote at all”.

HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 5:55:17pm

I just don’t know what to believe anymore. I mean I find out that some of my family find Trump “likable.” I guess that’s better than finding his policies palatable but I really wonder how they’re missing the same things I am seeing. I don’t think I’m overly sensitive. I see in Trump, every bully I’ve ever known. I’m seeing uncharted territory with the Nazi and KKK praised Bannon being in the WH.

Charles Johnson Nov 14, 2016 • 5:55:40pm

Oh hai Kurt. Taking a break from cleaning and oiling and caressing your beloved guns? @KurtSchlichter

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 15, 2016

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 5:56:03pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

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Yeah but I should try to understand these people. Nope.

Lidane Nov 14, 2016 • 5:56:08pm

Advice for dealing with a passive aggressive supervisor, anyone?

I love my new job. Love my co-workers and it’s a good, supportive environment. But I’m noticing that my direct supervisor is somewhat passive aggressive. For example, tonight I got an email addressed to me with one other co-worker cc’d on it about some lead generation ads that I’m running. She just happened to copy the one person who came up with the advertising naming conventions in the office and she wants the three of us to meet to discuss the naming conventions “to make sure we’re all on the same page”.

What. The Fuck. If there IS an issue with the ad naming, why not just say it? And why not just ask me to be sure and make the adjustments first thing in the morning? I know from experience that making those changes in Facebook takes less than five minutes.

Advice please. I’ve only been with this company since August. I love it, but that irks me. I don’t like it when someone pulls things like that.

electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 5:56:22pm

re: #55 Nyet

No need to post all these shitheads (yes, I mean the useless vets) here.

Trust me, I won’t after that. That was more than enough for me and I want to spare everyone else their meal if they ate.

nines09 Nov 14, 2016 • 5:56:34pm

Hard lessons in life. Not all cops are the good guys. Not all little old ladies are nice. Not all Veterans are wise old men with tales of sacrifice and brotherhood.

Decatur Deb Nov 14, 2016 • 5:56:57pm

re: #43 electrotek

Apologies for the multiple tweet links, I’m just in shock yet again over the “Greatest Generation” turning against the fight they participated in and succumbing to a demagogue.

FIL was a genuine combat hero in 3 WWII campaigns and the Pusan breakout. He often said America needed a military dictator “like Patton”.

He gets thanks for his service, even though he never realized its point.

Blind Frog Belly White Nov 14, 2016 • 5:57:31pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

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“Can you kill me now?”

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“Can you kill me now?”

*step*

“Can you kill me now?”

*step*

ObserverArt Nov 14, 2016 • 5:58:36pm

re: #1 electrotek

In case anyone missed it:

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Just saw this. Holly crap. Right here in Columbus @ Ohio State University. Too close.

HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 5:58:52pm

re: #61 electrotek

Trust me, I won’t after that. That was more than enough for me and I want to spare everyone else their meal if they ate.

It actually saddens me dude. It really does. Obviously, we shouldn’t hold anyone up on a pedestal but I see these old men and I see my grandfathers. I don’t think either would have voted for Trump.

HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 5:59:47pm

re: #63 Decatur Deb

FIL was a genuine combat hero in 3 WWII campaigns and the Pusan breakout. He often said America needed a military dictator “like Patton”.

He gets thanks for his service, even though he never realized its point.

It’s amazing how everyone sees war differently. My Korean War grandpa told us straight up at the end of his life that if he were drafted again, he would have gone to Canada. THe more I think about him, the more he was a rebel than I ever realized in life.

electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 5:59:48pm

re: #66 HappyWarrior

It actually saddens me dude. It really does. Obviously, we shouldn’t hold anyone up on a pedestal but I see these old men and I see my grandfathers. I don’t think either would have voted for Trump.

Don’t forget the Americans who volunteered to fight against fascism in the Spanish Civil War. You know, the Abraham Lincoln Brigade?

VegasGolfer Nov 14, 2016 • 5:59:56pm

re: #62 nines09

Hard lessons in life. Not all cops are the good guys. Not all little old ladies are nice. Not all Veterans are wise ole men with tales of sacrifice and brotherhood.

Thats why we had blanket parties for those people.

Belafon Nov 14, 2016 • 6:00:49pm

re: #57 HappyWarrior

I just don’t know what to believe anymore. I mean I find out that some of my family find Trump “likable.” I guess that’s better than finding his policies palatable but I really wonder how they’re missing the same things I am seeing. I don’t think I’m overly sensitive. I see in Trump, every bully I’ve ever known. I’m seeing uncharted territory with the Nazi and KKK praised Bannon being in the WH.

As I’ve mentioned, I’ve been talking to one guy at work who’s a conservative but I can at least talk to him. I’m getting the impression he expecting this to be a normal transition, a normal presidency, and if Trump messes things up, the checks and balances will keep him in line.

Timothy Watson Nov 14, 2016 • 6:01:00pm

re: #62 nines09

Not all Veterans are wise old men with tales of sacrifice and brotherhood.

And some are, but their brotherhood is exclusively white men having grown up in the ’20s and ’30s and served in a segregated military.

Charles Johnson Nov 14, 2016 • 6:01:15pm

I always appreciate when @KurtSchlichter tweets random stupidity at me - it reveals a few more right wing loons I haven’t blocked yet.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 15, 2016

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:01:27pm

re: #68 electrotek

Don’t forget the Americans who volunteered to fight against fascism in the Spanish Civil War. You know, the Abraham Lincoln Brigade?

True but more American men served in WWII. Neither of my grandfathers were actually WWII vets. My one was too young and the other 4F and had a family and govenrment job when war broke out but I can’t think of that generation and not think of them and the BAnd of Brothers, which I acutally recently rewatched.

HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:02:07pm

re: #71 Timothy Watson

And some are, but their brotherhood is exclusively white men having grown up in the ’20s and ’30s and served in a segregated military.

That’s true. Many are merely periods of their time. I guess I put them on a higher pedestal because in alot of ways, both my grandpas were ahead of their time.

nines09 Nov 14, 2016 • 6:02:17pm

re: #42 electrotek

There is a Vets Admin guy who lives down my street. He is a walking talking muthafucking nazi. He’s going to have his Trump poster up for the rest of his miserable life.

electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 6:02:41pm

re: #63 Decatur Deb

FIL was a genuine combat hero in 3 WWII campaigns and the Pusan breakout. He often said America needed a military dictator “like Patton”.

He gets thanks for his service, even though he never realized its point.

Goddamn, I’m not sure what to think of that.

Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 14, 2016 • 6:03:00pm

Judge Curiel FTW. ✊🏼✊🏼Judge denies request to delay Trump University trial by five weeks | US news | The Guardian https://t.co/wGNjDfjJFq

— Ryan Graney (@RyanEGraney) November 15, 2016

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Charles Johnson Nov 14, 2016 • 6:03:34pm

But I have to admit it felt a lot better to get retweeted by Lady Gaga and Joss Whedon. @KurtSchlichter

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 15, 2016

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teleskiguy Nov 14, 2016 • 6:03:43pm

So, I went and did something I haven’t done in some time tonight, I ordered a pizza from the local brick oven joint. Canadian bacon, jalapeño and … pineapple.

BeachDem Nov 14, 2016 • 6:03:43pm

re: #71 Timothy Watson

And some are, but their brotherhood is exclusively white men having grown up in the ’20s and ’30s and served in a segregated military.

And I just got off the phone with a friend who is spitting mad that many of the men in her church (it’s a black church) voted for Trump because they don’t believe a woman should ever be president. Sigh.

HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:03:56pm

re: #70 Belafon

As I’ve mentioned, I’ve been talking to one guy at work who’s a conservative but I can at least talk to him. I’m getting the impression he expecting this to be a normal transition, a normal presidency, and if Trump messes things up, the checks and balances will keep him in line.

That’s what my liberal parents and brother are telling me. They also want me to see what happens. In a way, I suppose they’re right but it disturbs me the fact that Trump has an actual Nazi/KKK admiree in Bannon. I think with my Dad, he feels he spent so much time hating Bush, he doesn’t want to hate anymore. My brother has a lot more empathy for conservatives since he’s grown up with more and has a lot of conservative friends. Neither of them are really embracing Trump. I think they’re just looking at differently as is their right.

The Vicious Babushka Nov 14, 2016 • 6:04:24pm

Rudy Giuliani is utterly disappointed by the offer of Secretary of State. He has been training for months to be the Mouth of Sauron. pic.twitter.com/DWcatyN0cY

— skullsinthestars (@drskyskull) November 15, 2016

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Blind Frog Belly White Nov 14, 2016 • 6:04:42pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good. If Trump thinks being President Elect is a tough job, just wait…

HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:04:48pm

re: #76 electrotek

Goddamn, I’m not sure what to think of that.

For every DD’s FIL, there were other WWII vets who helped integrate our country in the 50’s and 60’s. Look at it that way.

Nyet Nov 14, 2016 • 6:04:48pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pity it’s too late to affect the electors…

Stanley Sea Nov 14, 2016 • 6:05:08pm

13/ But I don’t think it’s helpful to get so hung up on the literal meaning of his words that you lose sight of the game he is playing.

— Adrian Chen (@AdrianChen) November 14, 2016

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15/ He gets power from that misunderstanding—the more people fight over what he says, the less people fight about what he does.

— Adrian Chen (@AdrianChen) November 14, 2016

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Decatur Deb Nov 14, 2016 • 6:05:28pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

That’s true. Many are merely periods of their time. I guess I put them on a higher pedestal because in alot of ways, both my grandpas were ahead of their time.

FIL took his 6th Grade education from KY coal country and lied his way into 6 yrs of combat, including Anzio. The Army raised and educated him. Mai Lai video finally broke him.

BeachDem Nov 14, 2016 • 6:05:43pm

re: #79 teleskiguy

So, I went and did something I haven’t done in some time tonight, I ordered a pizza from the local brick oven joint. Canadian bacon, jalapeño and … pineapple.

Heh. Right now, in my oven is a Canadian bacon, pineapple and shrimp pizza. Which I’m going to eat while drinking red wine.

Lidane Nov 14, 2016 • 6:05:51pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

The greatest irony of the 20+ year RWNJ jihad against the Clintons is that the Clinton v. Jones decision means that Trump won’t have any immunity from civil lawsuits brought over actions that happened before he took office and which are unrelated to his job.

Karma is going to be fun.

HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:06:46pm

I came this close to telling my wingnut friend whining about the protest that he never says anything about right wingers doing acts of violence towards people and wants to act like it’s just the left but I didn’t have the heart to do it. He’s my best fucking friend. Part of it was because I prefer addresing this stuff in public and other is frankly cowardice. Sigh.

HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:07:27pm

re: #87 Decatur Deb

FIL took his 6th Grade education from KY coal country and lied his way into 6 yrs of combat, including Anzio. The Army raised and educated him. Mai Lai video finally broke him.

Grandpa’s dad was a miner too. Johnstown. You know it as a Western Pa, man yourself.

Nyet Nov 14, 2016 • 6:07:33pm

Some things you don’t cut slack for.

HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:07:58pm

re: #89 Lidane

The greatest irony of the 20+ year RWNJ jihad against the Clintons is that the Clinton v. Jones decision means that Trump won’t have any immunity from civil lawsuits brought over actions that happened before he took office and which are unrelated to his job.

Karma is going to be fun.

That is one positive way to look at it. I hope a lot of the stuff they used against Obama and Clinton blows up in theri faces.

Charles Johnson Nov 14, 2016 • 6:08:27pm

Apple stock extends losses after China warning about Trump https://t.co/lv9QnLuJZo pic.twitter.com/gMeVJP2kFF

— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) November 15, 2016

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Donald Trump’s sacred work of destroying the US economy is already beginning. @Reuters https://t.co/D5Myffk0PD

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 15, 2016

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Kragar Nov 14, 2016 • 6:08:45pm

Giuliani: “Of course” taking Iraq’s oil would have been legal: “Until the war is over, anything is legal.” #ThisWeek https://t.co/VR7lvCJAws

— This Week (@ThisWeekABC) September 11, 2016

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Ahem the line is “inter arma enim silent leges”. Least you can do is class up your atrocities https://t.co/g83Ah8o7Vd

— Arthur Chu (@arthur_affect) November 15, 2016

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:08:48pm

re: #92 Nyet

Some things you don’t cut slack for.

That I think is going to be the dilemma of the planned short story I have about the Spanish Civil War.

HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:09:21pm

re: #95 Kragar

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Oh but Hillary is a crook. Fuck you Rudy. I don’t want to hear you ever accuse anyone of not being ethical again, you pig faced bastard.

The Vicious Babushka Nov 14, 2016 • 6:10:16pm

Let’s talk more about how this is a normal transfer of power and we’re being paranoid: pic.twitter.com/5b7BKfgs8u

— Danielle Evans (@daniellevalore) November 14, 2016

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:11:18pm

re: #98 The Vicious Babushka

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I had actually forgotten that bit. Sweet Christ.

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Stanley Sea Nov 14, 2016 • 6:12:32pm

re: #80 BeachDem

And I just got off the phone with a friend who is spitting mad that many of the men in her church (it’s a black church) voted for Trump because they don’t believe a woman should ever be president. Sigh.

Ima going to post this again

From Amanda Marcotte, on salon.com: “We cannot, it turns out, square the notion that a woman can be both ambitious and good. Ambition continues to be seen as an unnatural quality in a woman, an indication that she must be a wicked witch casting spells to destroy … any woman who has risen so high must have darkness in her soul. If we cannot find it, we will invent it.”

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MsJ Nov 14, 2016 • 6:12:49pm

re: #44 Decatur Deb

Che cosa?

What what?

I’m embarrassed. I’m livid. I’m sad. I’m emotional as fuck. I hate what my country has become and fearful for what has yet to happen.

This whole Trump Vanity Project is a nightmare of epic proportions.

I can’t stomach the First Whore of the US.

Trump will never be my president. Fuck him and the assholes who support him.

That’s my what these days.

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Belafon Nov 14, 2016 • 6:13:51pm

re: #81 HappyWarrior

That’s what my liberal parents and brother are telling me. They also want me to see what happens. In a way, I suppose they’re right but it disturbs me the fact that Trump has an actual Nazi/KKK admiree in Bannon. I think with my Dad, he feels he spent so much time hating Bush, he doesn’t want to hate anymore. My brother has a lot more empathy for conservatives since he’s grown up with more and has a lot of conservative friends. Neither of them are really embracing Trump. I think they’re just looking at differently as is their right.

I keep thinking back to Wilson’s EO barring blacks from government jobs. If Trump tried to pass one of those for, say, Muslims, would Republicans have the guts to impeach him over it? Would people like your family or my coworker see that as going to far, and be willing to do something about it?

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 14, 2016 • 6:14:25pm

Will the Trumps be able to separate businesses from government? https://t.co/5Kzoz4iUyy pic.twitter.com/96ZVSZLExW

— CBS News (@CBSNews) November 15, 2016

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No. https://t.co/2b6y1xIrLx

— Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) November 15, 2016

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:16:30pm

re: #102 Belafon

I keep thinking back to Wilson’s EO barring blacks from government jobs. If Trump tried to pass one of those for, say, Muslims, would Republicans have the guts to impeach him over it? Would people like your family or my coworker see that as going to far, and be willing to do something about it?

I like to think they would. I think their attitude is wait and see what he does. They’re not supporting Trump by any means but I really felt my concerns by pointing out who he’s surrounding himself were dismissed and told I should wait and see. I have no doubt that they’d see that as wrong. I’m not worried about them being Trumpers. I’m worried about them accepting Trump’s new normal. The new normal is scary and I don’t see how they see it’s a frightening new world we are where a key presidential adviser is praised by the KKK and American Nazi Party.

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Decatur Deb Nov 14, 2016 • 6:16:34pm

re: #101 MsJ

What what?

I’m embarrassed. I’m livid. I’m sad. I’m emotional as fuck. I hate what my country has become and fearful for what has yet to happen.

This whole Trump Vanity Project is a nightmare of epic proportions.

I can’t stomach the First Whore of the US.

Trump will never be my president. Fuck him and the assholes who support him.

That’s my what these days.

“What thing (are you saying).”
You’re embarrassed. I’m faking Italian.

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A Cranky One Nov 14, 2016 • 6:16:37pm

I’ve been riding an emotional roller-coaster since the election. Finally recognized the pattern: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. Still feeling a mixture of all these.

I’m mourning the impending death of our country.

This insight now gives me motive and a path forward. Because I won’t allow this country to die without a fight. I may accept the reality of the situation, but that doesn’t mean I won’t endeavor to change it.

These people want to fuck with my family and friends And everyone else in this country they don’t like for the most moronic, tribal reasons. And they’re going to try. But I and others will be there, standing in the way.

Because you don’t fuck with my family and friends. Or anybody else’s either.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:16:42pm

re: #103 The Vicious Babushka

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Nope.

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Stanley Sea Nov 14, 2016 • 6:17:02pm

re: #101 MsJ

What what?

I’m embarrassed. I’m livid. I’m sad. I’m emotional as fuck. I hate what my country has become and fearful for what has yet to happen.

This whole Trump Vanity Project is a nightmare of epic proportions.

I can’t stomach the First Whore of the US.

Trump will never be my president. Fuck him and the assholes who support him.

That’s my what these days.

You are NOT alone. Life is brutal right now.

I’m going to watch the episode of The Walking Dead I missed last night.

For levity.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:17:08pm

re: #106 A Cranky One

I’ve been riding an emotional roller-coaster since the election. Finally recognized the pattern: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. Still feeling a mixture of all these.

I’m mourning the impending death of our country.

This insight now gives me motive and a path forward. Because I won’t allow this country to die without a fight. I may accept the reality of the situation, but that doesn’t mean I won’t endeavor to change it.

These people want to fuck with my family and friends And everyone else in this country they don’t like for the most moronic, tribal reasons. And they’re going to try. But I and others will be there, standing in the way.

Because you don’t fuck with my family and friends. Or anybody else’s either.

I’ve finally hit depression.

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BeachDem Nov 14, 2016 • 6:20:58pm

re: #103 The Vicious Babushka

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The fact that CBS even phrases it as a question is fucked up. Particularly because they already know the answer.

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Blind Frog Belly White Nov 14, 2016 • 6:21:38pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

I’ve finally hit depression.

Don’t be depressed! Keep up the…

Aw, fuck it. I got nothing. I barely have enough optimism left for myself.

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Blind Frog Belly White Nov 14, 2016 • 6:22:21pm

re: #108 Stanley Sea

You are NOT alone. Life is brutal right now.

I’m going to watch the episode of The Walking Dead I missed last night.

For levity.

If it weren’t for gallows humor, I wouldn’t have much humor left.

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jaunte Nov 14, 2016 • 6:22:29pm

re: #95 Kragar

Giuliani: “Of course” taking Iraq’s oil would have been legal: “Until the war is over, anything is legal.”

Of course, he isn’t saying that means the war must go on forever.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Nov 14, 2016 • 6:22:40pm

re: #111 Blind Frog Belly White

Don’t be depressed! Keep up the…

Aw, fuck it. I got nothing. I barely have enough optimism left for myself.

I don’t have optimism. I have a slow-burning rage and a determination that’s not going to quit.

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BeachDem Nov 14, 2016 • 6:22:44pm

re: #104 HappyWarrior

I like to think they would. I think their attitude is wait and see what he does. They’re not supporting Trump by any means but I really felt my concerns by pointing out who he’s surrounding himself were dismissed and told I should wait and see. I have no doubt that they’d see that as wrong. I’m not worried about them being Trumpers. I’m worried about them accepting Trump’s new normal. The new normal is scary and I don’t see how they see it’s a frightening new world we are where a key presidential adviser is praised by the KKK and American Nazi Party.

“How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four.”

“Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.”
—1984

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MsJ Nov 14, 2016 • 6:23:07pm

re: #108 Stanley Sea

You are NOT alone. Life is brutal right now.

I’m going to watch the episode of The Walking Dead I missed last night.

For levity.

I can’t bring myself to watch the news. For this news junkie this is severe punishment. I won’t watch assholes who propped up Trump before or whom will normalize him now.

I’m limiting internet. I’ve read three books, caught up in the DVR. I just can’t even.

And this national nightmare hasn’t even begun.

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Decatur Deb Nov 14, 2016 • 6:24:16pm

re: #114 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t have optimism. I have a slow-burning rage and a determination that’s not going to quit.

Good enough. It got people from Stalingrad to Berlin. That and fear of their sergeants.

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BeachDem Nov 14, 2016 • 6:24:38pm

re: #114 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t have optimism. I have a slow-burning rage and a determination that’s not going to quit.

That’s the only thing that allows me to even get out of bed.

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retired cynic Nov 14, 2016 • 6:24:42pm

re: #116 MsJ

I can’t bring myself to watch the news. For this news junkie this is severe punishment. I won’t watch assholes who propped up Trump before or whom will normalize him now.

I’m limiting internet. I’ve read three books, caught up in the DVR. I just can’t even.

And this national nightmare hasn’t even begun.

I’m with you there. Total news junkie. Can’t bear to hear it. Had my TV service cancelled. Playing a lot of solitaire, and working on, well, work. Trying to sleep.

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nines09 Nov 14, 2016 • 6:24:49pm

.re: #106 A Cranky One

Bitch, ain’t it? This ratfucking has seeped into just about every aspect of my life both personal and professional. I have to cap it. Don’t talk yourself out. Stay fresh.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Nov 14, 2016 • 6:25:09pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

I’ve finally hit depression.

Yeah, Kubler-Ross is full of shit. I’ve been depressed for a long time, anyway. I’m never accepting this. I’m not bargaining with anybody—I will never accept this. I’m in a combination of denial and anger—Trump did not win the fucking election. This Electoral College jiggery-pokery is bullshit. I’m mad as hell, and I’m never going to stop being mad. I just need to find some way to channel that anger in a useful direction…bearing in mind that I’ll probably be homeless and probably even less effectual pretty soon.

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VegasGolfer Nov 14, 2016 • 6:26:01pm

Anybody watching Maddow?
She’s speechless on the news that trumps people had no idea the had to staff the West Wing with their own people. And have not returned calls from all the agencies (fbi, cia, pentagon etc.) about transitioning to the trump administration
Truly astounding the ametuerish level trump is handling this.

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retired cynic Nov 14, 2016 • 6:26:17pm

re: #121 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I hope not; that’s awful!

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BeachDem Nov 14, 2016 • 6:27:50pm

re: #121 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Yeah, Kubler-Ross is full of shit. I’ve been depressed for a long time, anyway. I’m never accepting this. I’m not bargaining with anybody—I will never accept this. I’m in a combination of denial and anger—Trump did not win the fucking election. This Electoral College jiggery-pokery is bullshit. I’m mad as hell, and I’m never going to stop being mad. I just need to find some way to channel that anger in a useful direction…bearing in mind that I’ll probably be homeless and probably even less effectual pretty soon.

John Cole had the stages correct:

1.) Anger
2.) More Anger
3.) Fuck You
4.) Random lashing out
5.) Fuck you and anger and lashing out

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:27:54pm

re: #115 BeachDem

“How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four.”

“Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.”
—1984

You see my Great Escape quote earlier? Heh. Got really annoyed at my brother since he tried to say Bernie would have won the WWC. Told him nicely he has no idea how easily the red baiting would have worked on them. Oh well, I’ll take my victories, none of them actually support Trump, I just think they’re not understanding why I’m legitimately worried.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:28:26pm

re: #111 Blind Frog Belly White

Don’t be depressed! Keep up the…

Aw, fuck it. I got nothing. I barely have enough optimism left for myself.

I’ll be okay. Just numb.

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Decatur Deb Nov 14, 2016 • 6:29:17pm

re: #124 BeachDem

John Cole had the stages correct:

1.) Anger
2.) More Anger
3.) Fuck You
4.) Random lashing out
5.) Fuck you and anger and lashing out

6.) Do something.

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Blind Frog Belly White Nov 14, 2016 • 6:29:56pm

re: #114 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t have optimism. I have a slow-burning rage and a determination that’s not going to quit.

I discovered years ago that, prone as I am to anxiety, I am not prone to depression. Call it optimism, or denial, but I don’t stay depressed.

Today is my birthday, and when I got up my wife said, “For your birthday, why not take a break from news etc?” I thought about it. Then I looked at Facebook, where my wingnut cousin had posted something from some wingnut propaganda page. It was titled, “Should Welfare Cheats Be Arrested?”, and it had a picture.

I imagine you can guess the color of the person being arrested.

That was it. I google searched the image, and OF COURSE it had nothing to do with welfare at all. It was about a brawl at a kindergarten graduation. But the propagandist had used it because, after all, “You KNOW who cheats on welfare!”.

So I stole a snip, and posted it (not giving those fuckers clicks) pointing out what had been done and why.

It actually made me feel better.

I will not go gentle into that good night.

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Stanley Sea Nov 14, 2016 • 6:30:36pm

re: #112 Blind Frog Belly White

If it weren’t for gallows humor, I wouldn’t have much humor left.

oh, we’ve only just begun.

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teleskiguy Nov 14, 2016 • 6:31:01pm

re: #127 Decatur Deb

6.) Do something.

Do Something!

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Charles Johnson Nov 14, 2016 • 6:31:44pm

Just so you know, I don’t block you because you never fail to make me laugh. Clowns who think they’re geniuses are the best! @KurtSchlichter

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 15, 2016

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Nyet Nov 14, 2016 • 6:32:04pm

re: #121 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ll probably be homeless

What happened?

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CuriousLurker Nov 14, 2016 • 6:32:19pm

re: #71 Timothy Watson

And some are, but their brotherhood is exclusively white men having grown up in the ’20s and ’30s and served in a segregated military.

In the summer of 2015 I had the opportunity to sit down and talk to two WWII vets, one black, the other Jewish. Their feelings of being American, of being accepted, were quite different from those of say, my dad. It was especially true for the black vet. That’s not to say the Jewish vet didn’t experience bigotry—he did—but he wasn’t segregated.

It was really sad. The black vet said that (despite Jim Crow) he volunteered for the Navy out of a sense of patriotism, but in his words, “I quickly learned that this wasn’t my country.” It made me so sad to see his face when he said that.

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Stanley Sea Nov 14, 2016 • 6:33:07pm

re: #116 MsJ

I can’t bring myself to watch the news. For this news junkie this is severe punishment. I won’t watch assholes who propped up Trump before or whom will normalize him now.

I’m limiting internet. I’ve read three books, caught up in the DVR. I just can’t even.

And this national nightmare hasn’t even begun.

Internet only. Here & twitter. Basically stuck on Josh TPM & Fahrenthold’s feed.

HGTV has been on my TV since the election. It will be quite awhile before I turn CNN back on.

Wonder if they notice a ratings drop?

Trying to win that HGTV craftsman in Ann Arbor. LOL.

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Blind Frog Belly White Nov 14, 2016 • 6:33:34pm

re: #131 Charles Johnson

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Sherlock Hound Nov 14, 2016 • 6:34:09pm

re: #127 Decatur Deb

6.) Do something.

7.) Weeping
8.) Disaffirmation
9.) Fitful sleep
10.) Wake up. Trump’s still here. Go to step 1

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PhillyPretzel Nov 14, 2016 • 6:34:21pm

re: #133 CuriousLurker

I like the cat icon.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:35:33pm

re: #133 CuriousLurker

In the summer of 2015 I had the opportunity to sit down and talk to two WWII vets, one black, the other Jewish. Their feelings of being American, of being accepted, were quite different from those of say, my dad. It was especially true for the black vet. That’s not to say the Jewish vet didn’t experience bigotry—he did—but he wasn’t segregated.

It was really sad. The black vet said that (despite Jim Crow) he volunteered for the Navy out of a sense of patriotism, but in his words, “I quickly learned that this wasn’t my country.” It made me so sad to see his face when he said that.

The saddest thing of all for me has to have read about WWII African-American vets who returned home and got attacked or even murdered. I mean to survive a war like that and only ot have that happen. That would sour me. In fact, I hear a lot about how African-Americans should quit bitching and I think a lot are far less vocal than I would be. If I were black, I wouldn’t exactly be the most charitable towards white people. I remember seeing a documentary about the integration of college sports in the South and a lot of the African-Americans had a much more forgiving attitude than I would. So many white people never stopped ot think “What if I were black?”. The thought never crosses their mind.

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Decatur Deb Nov 14, 2016 • 6:36:02pm

re: #130 teleskiguy

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William Lewis Nov 14, 2016 • 6:36:06pm

re: #63 Decatur Deb

FIL was a genuine combat hero in 3 WWII campaigns and the Pusan breakout. He often said America needed a military dictator “like Patton”.

He gets thanks for his service, even though he never realized its point.

My FiL was a very good man who served in the Navy in WWII & refused to go home to Alabama because he couldn’t stand the way blacks were treated. Instead he lived in Wisconsin and was a very successful union organizer for the United Brotherhood of Carpenters.

He also could never forgive the Japanese.

People are complex and we forget that at our peril.

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ObserverArt Nov 14, 2016 • 6:36:18pm

re: #12 TedStriker

I wonder if Trump’s going to build a dedicated parade ground for these rallies…something like this:

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Why? He’s got the National Mall.

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CuriousLurker Nov 14, 2016 • 6:36:21pm

re: #137 PhillyPretzel

I like the cat icon.

Heh, thanks.

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Blind Frog Belly White Nov 14, 2016 • 6:37:27pm

re: #136 Sherlock Hound

7.) Weeping
8.) Disaffirmation
9.) Fitful sleep
10.) Wake up. Trump’s still here. Go to step 1

What keeps getting me is the periodic, “Naw, this can’t have happened! It’s too insane!” moments. Then you realize that yes, it’s insane, and yes, it happened. And you say, “Fu-u-uck.” Again. As it hits you. Again.

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electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 6:37:38pm

If anyone thinks this doesn’t effect the electronic music scene:

Booker at new NYC club @SchimanskiNYC resigns after comments in support of Trump https://t.co/Mds2oEUVLj pic.twitter.com/M4rKs9E68m

— Resident Advisor (@residentadvisor) November 15, 2016

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GlutenFreeJesus Nov 14, 2016 • 6:37:38pm

Ya know. I know President Obama has said he’s done with politics… but if he were to be DNC chair…

Sigh. Just a pipedream. But damn. What a thought.

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William Lewis Nov 14, 2016 • 6:37:46pm

re: #96 HappyWarrior

That I think is going to be the dilemma of the planned short story I have about the Spanish Civil War.

Tis why I suggested the intro I gave you.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:38:55pm

re: #146 William Lewis

Tis why I suggested the intro I gave you.

Yeah that was a brilliant idea, thank you. It fit perfectly what I have in mind. All wars to a degree are wars between brothers but that was as you know was so unique.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Nov 14, 2016 • 6:40:16pm

re: #132 Nyet

What happened?

Just that our every source of income will go away if the GOP gets their way—Social Security, SSDI. Our rent subsidy will also be eliminated. When Ryan destroys Medicare, my girlfriend will have to pay full price for her meds, so any income we have left would go there.

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Nyet Nov 14, 2016 • 6:40:37pm

George Lincoln Rockwell (March 9, 1918 - August 25, 1967) was an American neo-Nazi and founder of the American Nazi Party.[1] He was a major figure in the neo-Nazi movement in the United States, and his beliefs and writings have continued to be influential among white nationalists and neo-Nazis.
[…]

Rockwell had a successful naval career, both on active duty and in the Naval Reserve. A veteran of World War II, he was a naval aviator and served a follow-on tour during the Korean War. He transferred to the naval reserve.

No thanks for this guy.

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Romantic Heretic Nov 14, 2016 • 6:40:42pm

re: #95 Kragar

The strong do what they will and the weak suffer what they must. - Athens to Milos at the start of the Peloponessian War.

Rudy’s attitude predates Rome.

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Stanley Sea Nov 14, 2016 • 6:40:45pm

re: #128 Blind Frog Belly White

Happy Birthday BFBW.

And if I saw correctly Electrotek.

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Joe Bacon Nov 14, 2016 • 6:41:25pm

re: #89 Lidane

The greatest irony of the 20+ year RWNJ jihad against the Clintons is that the Clinton v. Jones decision means that Trump won’t have any immunity from civil lawsuits brought over actions that happened before he took office and which are unrelated to his job.

Karma is going to be fun.

Wait till Trump packs the Supreme Court and see that decision reversed REAL FAST!

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:41:27pm

re: #149 Nyet

No thanks for this guy.

No doubt you recall the uproar when the Obama administration in a report started by the Bush administration said military vets were fertile ground for recruitment for right wing extremists.

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Stanley Sea Nov 14, 2016 • 6:43:15pm

re: #133 CuriousLurker

I read this today. It is all just way too much.

Chili’s apologizes for taking meal from black veteran on Veteran’s Day https://t.co/qjenR9O6fX pic.twitter.com/IxTHXTNWZs

— HuffPost BlackVoices (@blackvoices) November 14, 2016

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Nov 14, 2016 • 6:43:23pm

re: #141 ObserverArt

Why? He’s got the National Mall.

Maybe he’ll put a balcony on the White House he can rant from like Mussolini.

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Joe Bacon Nov 14, 2016 • 6:43:40pm

re: #91 HappyWarrior

Grandpa’s dad was a miner too. Johnstown. You know it as a Western Pa, man yourself.

I’m from Ambridge. Broke my heart when I read that Times article about how Ambridge became a hotbed for Trump.

nytimes.com

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Sherlock Hound Nov 14, 2016 • 6:43:52pm

re: #143 Blind Frog Belly White

Disaffirmation just happened to me. I’m talking with my brother over the phone.
Me: “I was so out of my mind, heartbroken, depressed!”
Him: “About Hillary? She’s a crook, OK? She’ll put Bill in charge!”
Me: <just about dying inside…>

THAT is Disaffirmation.

I haven’t talked to anyone outside of here and a few friends on FB. This is going to happen over and over again. We’re truly on our own.

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 14, 2016 • 6:44:24pm

Per @mitchellreports, Trump team did ask about possibility of clearances for his kids — no request made; post-1/20 he can clear them himself

— Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) November 15, 2016

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Would be unprecedented but not illegal, per NBC’s @mitchellreports; after inaugural, President Trump can direct who gets security clearances https://t.co/lMPALNmMIZ

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:44:34pm

One reason why WWI has always fascinated me. The different take away so many people got out of that war. Not even in different countries but the same. One man experiences modern 20th century warfare and becomes a dedicated pacifist. Another becomes Hitler. I guess WWI isn’t unique in that but that always is what fascinated me about the war and also how quickly the tools of industrialization of the past century went into massive use. I hope to God the world never sees a war like that ever again. Worse in many ways than WWII.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:45:29pm

re: #156 Joe Bacon

I’m from Ambridge. Broke my heart when I read that Times article about how Ambridge became a hotbed for Trump.

nytimes.com

Was Armbridge a steel town? But I hear ya Joe. Cambria, where my mom’s folks are from was one of the few that bucked Reagan 32 years ago, 32 years later, they went for Trump overwhelmingly.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:45:57pm

re: #158 The Vicious Babushka

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Colère Tueur de Lapin Nov 14, 2016 • 6:46:14pm

re: #155 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Maybe he’ll put a balcony on the White House he can rant from like Mussolini.

One hopes that the National Historic Registry will prevent that particular travesty. And, all the gilding that could possibly happen to the interior.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:46:57pm

re: #154 Stanley Sea

I read this today. It is all just way too much.

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I didn’t know it was a dickhead wearing a Trump shirt that questioned this man’s service. Yep, done with even attempting to feel empathy for these people. And they’re the first ones to accuse us of not respecting our veterans. Fuck them.

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VegasGolfer Nov 14, 2016 • 6:47:05pm

re: #154 Stanley Sea

I read this today. It is all just way too much.

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ObserverArt Nov 14, 2016 • 6:48:15pm

re: #52 BeachDem

Was talking about this with some Dem friends yesterday—as some folks here had brought up the other day about the idea of having co-chairs—one as the face of the DNC (Ellison) and one to do the nitty-gritty work (like Dean or similar)

There is precedent for that in the DNC—back in the 1990s, Don Fowler was National Chairman while Chris Dodd served as “General Chairman.”

I really think that’s a good way to go.

All hands on deck!

Gonna need everybody to put an end to the political dreck.

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Joe Bacon Nov 14, 2016 • 6:48:15pm

@CBSNews Gosh, why don’t you do something called “investigative reporting” instead of 60 Minutes kissing Trump’s ass?

— josephebacon (@josephebacon) November 15, 2016

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 14, 2016 • 6:49:02pm

Breitbart’s take on what Trump means for the climate. Get ready. pic.twitter.com/zzoHiIsVNh

— Alexis C. Madrigal (@alexismadrigal) November 14, 2016

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Decatur Deb Nov 14, 2016 • 6:49:15pm

re: #157 Sherlock Hound

Disaffirmation just happened to me. I’m talking with my brother over the phone.
Me: “I was so out of my mind, heartbroken, depressed!”
Him: “About Hillary? She’s a crook, OK? She’ll put Bill in charge!”
Me: <just about dying inside…>

THAT is Disaffirmation.

I haven’t talked to anyone outside of here and a few friends on FB. This is going to happen over and over again. We’re truly on our own.

No. The nurse who pushed the gurney in our Baja Alabama hospital is named Hakeem. We had a minute, and he and I both know we are not on our own.

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William Lewis Nov 14, 2016 • 6:49:23pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

One reason why WWI has always fascinated me. The different take away so many people got out of that war. Not even in different countries but the same. One man experiences modern 20th century warfare and becomes a dedicated pacifist. Another becomes Hitler. I guess WWI isn’t unique in that but that always is what fascinated me about the war and also how quickly the tools of industrialization of the past century went into massive use. I hope to God the world never sees a war like that ever again. Worse in many ways than WWII.

One other creates a world with languages, histories and epic myths. Another, his friend, becomes known also as a writer but also as an Apologist (in the old sense) for Christianity. The greatest poet created by it, alas, almost survived… 4 November 1918.

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Eclectic Cyborg Nov 14, 2016 • 6:50:39pm

re: #158 The Vicious Babushka

Can you imagine someone like CCJ getting a security clearance? Holy hell.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos Nov 14, 2016 • 6:51:00pm

re: #163 HappyWarrior

I didn’t know it was a dickhead wearing a Trump shirt that questioned this man’s service. Yep, done with even attempting to feel empathy for these people. And they’re the first ones to accuse us of not respecting our veterans. Fuck them.

Read the story, it was a racist dickhead wearing a Trump shirt.

Like some other establishments around the country, Chili’s offered free meals to veterans and active military service members on Veterans Day. Walker wrote on his Facebook page that he was eating at Chili’s with his service dog, Barack, when an elderly customer wearing a Trump shirt came up to him. “He said he was in Germany, and that they did not let Blacks serve over there,” Walker wrote.

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electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 6:51:10pm

I believe international DJ’s and musical performers should boycott performing in states that voted for Trump and stick with states that went blue.

Similar to NC but on a grander scale.

Good idea or bad idea?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin Nov 14, 2016 • 6:51:28pm

re: #158 The Vicious Babushka

But, they would still need to be vetted and I don’t see how they could possibly pass with their financial interests. But, I guess all those pesky laws will be ignored.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Nov 14, 2016 • 6:51:44pm

re: #166 Joe Bacon

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Will the Trumps be able to separate businesses from government?

“The business of America is business.”

I shouldn’t rag on Cal—political pipsqueak as he was, he was a giant among men compared to Trump….

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 14, 2016 • 6:52:22pm

re: #170 Eclectic Cyborg

Can you imagine someone like CCJ getting a security clearance? Holy hell.

Can you imagine the Trumps and their swarm committing actual TREASON selling national security to the highest bidder just for lulz and pocket change? We are so fucked.

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Charles Johnson Nov 14, 2016 • 6:52:43pm

But I have to admit it felt a lot better to get retweeted by Lady Gaga and Joss Whedon. @KurtSchlichter

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 15, 2016

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Achievements. They fill his empty life. https://t.co/yXGAkuvb0V

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 14, 2016 • 6:52:44pm

re: #173 Colère Tueur de Lapin

But, they would still need to be vetted and I don’t see how they could possibly pass with their financial interests. But, I guess all those pesky laws will be ignored.

No they do not need to be vetted.

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Stanley Sea Nov 14, 2016 • 6:52:50pm

re: #138 HappyWarrior

The saddest thing of all for me has to have read about WWII African-American vets who returned home and got attacked or even murdered. I mean to survive a war like that and only ot have that happen. That would sour me. In fact, I hear a lot about how African-Americans should quit bitching and I think a lot are far less vocal than I would be. If I were black, I wouldn’t exactly be the most charitable towards white people. I remember seeing a documentary about the integration of college sports in the South and a lot of the African-Americans had a much more forgiving attitude than I would. So many white people never stopped ot think “What if I were black?”. The thought never crosses their mind.

Plus they were chosen for the most dangerous jobs.

American history is really bad & that’s what white people cannot, no way in hell, ever admit.

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Eclectic Cyborg Nov 14, 2016 • 6:53:03pm

re: #172 electrotek

I think they would stand to lose money doing that. A lot of states went red this time around.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:53:41pm

re: #171 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Read the story, it was a racist dickhead wearing a Trump shirt.

Yeah, that’s what I mean. I had heard about it but I didn’t know the details before.

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Belafon Nov 14, 2016 • 6:54:02pm

re: #173 Colère Tueur de Lapin

But, they would still need to be vetted and I don’t see how they could possibly pass with their financial interests. But, I guess all those pesky laws will be ignored.

Unless Congress changes the law, the president has the ultimate authority on who gets to see national security information. What gets classified also comes from the president. He could have his breakfast classified if he wanted to. And, to tell you the truth, he could show it all to Putin.

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Stanley Sea Nov 14, 2016 • 6:54:35pm

re: #145 GlutenFreeJesus

Ya know. I know President Obama has said he’s done with politics… but if he were to be DNC chair…

Sigh. Just a pipedream. But damn. What a thought.

President Obama is greater than politics. He needs to change the world & he will.

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retired cynic Nov 14, 2016 • 6:55:08pm

re: #181 Belafon

Unless Congress changes the law, the president has the ultimate authority on who gets to see national security information. What gets classified also comes from the president. He could have his breakfast classified if he wanted to. And, to tell you the truth, he could show it all to Putin.

Kill me now.

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Eclectic Cyborg Nov 14, 2016 • 6:55:10pm

I pray every one of the existing Supreme Court Justices stays on the bench another 4 years.

And I wish Obama could somehow get Garland through but that’s likely not going to happen.

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ObserverArt Nov 14, 2016 • 6:55:15pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ryan Graney @RyanEGraney
Judge Curiel FTW. ✊🏼✊🏼Judge denies request to delay Trump University trial by five weeks | US news | The Guardian theguardian.com …
7:45 PM - 14 Nov 2016

If only Trump were President, he could put a stop to this.

And, pardon himself.

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Joe Bacon Nov 14, 2016 • 6:55:46pm

re: #160 HappyWarrior

Was Armbridge a steel town? But I hear ya Joe. Cambria, where my mom’s folks are from was one of the few that bucked Reagan 32 years ago, 32 years later, they went for Trump overwhelmingly.

Happy, Ambridge was the home town of the American Bridge Company. Also had Spang-Chalfant, ARMCO, Wyckoff, A.M. Byers, National Electric, Bollingers and other plants all gone when Reagan let the steel industry die in 1984. Nothing ever replaced those good Union jobs. And who got the blame when the mills shut down????

Jimmy Carter got blamed…

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Myron Falwell (no relation) Nov 14, 2016 • 6:56:10pm

re: #32 BeachDem

The video with the asshole tackling the guy is from Ohio State. The twitter account is for the school newspaper, the Lantern.

It was in their main student union. I’ve been there before two times.

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Stanley Sea Nov 14, 2016 • 6:56:42pm

re: #158 The Vicious Babushka

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fuck.

Back to Negan.

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Eclectic Cyborg Nov 14, 2016 • 6:56:44pm

Trump may be the strongest argument ever for NOT having the President be Commander-in-Chief.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:56:46pm

re: #178 Stanley Sea

Plus they were chosen for the most dangerous jobs.

American history is really bad & that’s what white people cannot, no way in hell, ever admit.

Yeah so many of us just don’t get it. And it’s not just conservative whites. I think part of the reason why my one brother and I can communicate politically even if he’s a lot more radical than I am is he has a great empathy for people who aren’t like us either. A lot of his best friends growing up were African-American and he’s big on indigenous people’s rights too. He’s the father of my niece btw. He was telling when he was in Peru that he helped a Peruvian boy learn some English when he was on a boat trip.

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William Lewis Nov 14, 2016 • 6:57:10pm

re: #174 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“The business of America is business.”

I shouldn’t rag on Cal—political pipsqueak as he was, he was a giant among men compared to Trump….

He did one thing that will forever grant him a far greater place in history than the Trumpenfuhrer; he signed the act giving citizenship to native americans. He was, overall, profoundly on the side of the light in terms of civil rights. He would spit in Upchucks face for that reason alone. There is a good section about it in his wiki article.

en.wikipedia.org

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Belafon Nov 14, 2016 • 6:57:21pm

re: #185 ObserverArt

If only Trump were President, he could put a stop to this.

And, pardon himself.

he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

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Joe Bacon Nov 14, 2016 • 6:57:34pm

re: #158 The Vicious Babushka

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I guess Alex Jones get his Security Clearance on January 20th, too.

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Eclectic Cyborg Nov 14, 2016 • 6:58:09pm

re: #192 Belafon

Man I forgot about the pardons…

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 6:58:15pm

re: #186 Joe Bacon

Happy, Ambridge was the home town of the American Bridge Company. Also had Spang-Chalfant, ARMCO, Wyckoff, A.M. Byers, National Electric, Bollingers and other plants all gone when Reagan let the steel industry die in 1984. Nothing ever replaced those good Union jobs. And who got the blame when the mills shut down????

Jimmy Carter got blamed…

Thanks. BTW Mom’s folks are from Johnstown but my Dad’s Dad’s family was from Spring Hill in Pittsburgh (Germans) and his mom’s Manchester (Irish). My Nana’s father was an elevator operator at the Frick Building.

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teleskiguy Nov 14, 2016 • 6:59:27pm

@AP pic.twitter.com/yBt12kZDqJ

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Joe Bacon Nov 14, 2016 • 6:59:31pm

re: #170 Eclectic Cyborg

Can you imagine someone like CCJ getting a security clearance? Holy hell.

Yes. Ginger Snapped AND Milo…

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:00:18pm

re: #169 William Lewis

One other creates a world with languages, histories and epic myths. Another, his friend, becomes known also as a writer but also as an Apologist (in the old sense) for Christianity. The greatest poet created by it, alas, almost survived… 4 November 1918.

You’re talking about Tolken and Lewis there aren’t you? But yes. I need to rewatch some stuff on it. If only, I could interview my ancestors who experienced it. I had some older cousins of my dad’s dad that were doughboys including one guy who was a prisoner.

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Stanley Sea Nov 14, 2016 • 7:00:37pm

re: #164 VegasGolfer

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Did they fire that punk manager?

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Myron Falwell (no relation) Nov 14, 2016 • 7:01:00pm

re: #172 electrotek

I believe international DJ’s and musical performers should boycott performing in states that voted for Trump and stick with states that went blue.

Similar to NC but on a grander scale.

Good idea or bad idea?

Let’s do blue counties instead. That way, a concert can still be held in Cleveland, Columbus, Milwaukee or Detroit. Losing those cities would be a non-starter.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:01:10pm

I see O’Keefe probably coming too. Maybe as a Donald Segretti type.

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Charles Johnson Nov 14, 2016 • 7:01:23pm

Critics See Stephen Bannon, Trump’s Pick for Strategist, as Voice of Racism, via @nytimes https://t.co/A3Scit5jVs

— Serge Kovaleski (@sergenyt) November 15, 2016

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Not just “critics.” Anyone with a brain and a heart, and a shred of human decency. @sergenyt @nytimes https://t.co/aqaQ8RTOWC

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:02:01pm

re: #202 Charles Johnson

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I believe Serge is the reporter that Trump mocked.

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William Lewis Nov 14, 2016 • 7:02:27pm

re: #198 HappyWarrior

You’re talking about Tolken and Lewis there aren’t you? But yes. I need to rewatch some stuff on it. If only, I could interview my ancestors who experienced it. I had some older cousins of my dad’s dad that were doughboys including one guy who was a prisoner.

That was my first two, yes. Did you guess #3?

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:02:59pm

re: #204 William Lewis

That was my first two, yes. Did you guess #3?

Wilfred Owen.

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Kragar Nov 14, 2016 • 7:03:24pm

Shit just got real… pic.twitter.com/50lYpKzpac

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) November 15, 2016

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Eclectic Cyborg Nov 14, 2016 • 7:03:36pm

re: #202 Charles Johnson

And there’s your uphill battle. The media normalizing racism.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:03:42pm

“I am young, I am twenty years old; yet I know nothing of life but despair, death, fear, and fatuous superficiality cast over an abyss of sorrow. I see how peoples are set against one another, and in silence, unknowingly, foolishly, obediently, innocently slay one another.”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Nov 14, 2016 • 7:03:46pm

re: #205 HappyWarrior

Wilfred Owen.

I was going to say Rupert Brooke….

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VegasGolfer Nov 14, 2016 • 7:03:55pm

re: #199 Stanley Sea

Put on paid administrative leave pending investigation.

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William Lewis Nov 14, 2016 • 7:04:00pm

re: #205 HappyWarrior

Wilfred Owen.

Dulce et Decorum est… a week before the end, almost to the hour. What a waste.

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Myron Falwell (no relation) Nov 14, 2016 • 7:04:01pm

Instagram

Ramona… performing tonight only!
(Finished product)
#sketching
#catsloveguitars
#hippiecat

I usually devote my Instagram to my own artwork, so there you go. Needed to clear my mind this past weekend…

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Stanley Sea Nov 14, 2016 • 7:04:53pm

re: #168 Decatur Deb

No. The nurse who pushed the gurney in our Baja Alabama hospital is named Hakeem. We had a minute, and he and I both know we are not on our own.

In the category of I’ll take what I can get: I bet he was beyond relieved & surprised to find white guy in Baja Ala was on his side.

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Ziggy_TARDIS Nov 14, 2016 • 7:05:42pm

The Avengers are assembling. pic.twitter.com/cADUNW82ia

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:06:26pm

re: #211 William Lewis

Dulce et Decorum est… a week before the end, almost to the hour. What a waste.

You know Bill, I always wondered about people like that. I remember reading the aftermath of the Titanic officers. Charles Lightoller. This man had one son killed in the first days of WWII and another in the last days. I always think about things like that watching docu-histories about either the Battles of Berlin or Okinawa. I mean all war deaths are tragic but those ones always hit me because I think about young men who experienced so much and then just before the peace arrives, they’re gone. That’s why All Quiet is so beautiful to me. Sad of course but poignant.

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TedStriker Nov 14, 2016 • 7:06:32pm

re: #206 Kragar

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William Lewis Nov 14, 2016 • 7:06:44pm

re: #208 HappyWarrior

“I am young, I am twenty years old; yet I know nothing of life but despair, death, fear, and fatuous superficiality cast over an abyss of sorrow. I see how peoples are set against one another, and in silence, unknowingly, foolishly, obediently, innocently slay one another.”

That too.

“The world breaks everyone and afterward many are strong at the broken places. But those that will not break it kills. It kills the very good and the very gentle and the very brave impartially.”

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Maddies Mom Nov 14, 2016 • 7:06:56pm

re: #134 Stanley Sea

Internet only. Here & twitter. Basically stuck on Josh TPM & Fahrenthold’s feed.

HGTV has been on my TV since the election. It will be quite awhile before I turn CNN back on.

Wonder if they notice a ratings drop?

Trying to win that HGTV craftsman in Ann Arbor. LOL.

Same with me! I think I’ve seen every Fixer Upper, Flip or Flop, Tiny House, House Hunters and Property Brothers episode ever produced! I get a little nervous though, because right before the 2007/2008 housing crash there were a shit ton of Flipping shows and now they’re increasing again.

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Belafon Nov 14, 2016 • 7:07:38pm

“When X doesn’t like you, that’s a good thing.”

What if X is antibiotics?

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:08:32pm

This is from a short story I wrote for my class last winter. I’m no Owen or Remarque or Hemingway so don’t judge too hard.
My thoughts finally did come together. My war was finally over. There was no way in hell that I’d be going back in combat. I promised myself that when I made it home to England that I would find Frankie’s widow and son and tell them the true story of their husband and father’s fate. They won’t hear that he died valiantly in the service of his majesty King George, no they’ll hear that Frankie died with his brothers. And I vowed that whatever I did that I would fight like hell so future generations of men would never have to experience what Kidney, Frankie, I, and the men of K Company did ever again. But now I would fall asleep and just appreciate the fact that I was alive. In the end, I was a statistic, one of millions, no longer even Lieutenant Hastings but causality one of millions in a long, bitter war.

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Decatur Deb Nov 14, 2016 • 7:08:55pm

re: #213 Stanley Sea

In the category of I’ll take what I can get: I bet he was beyond relieved & surprised to find white guy in Baja Ala was on his side.

It’s bad, of course, but 1/3 of our county actually voted HRC. We are so far south that going south takes you north. Then there’s that Klan/PD issue…

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Joe Bacon Nov 14, 2016 • 7:09:02pm

re: #195 HappyWarrior

Happy, Grandpa Bacon came to Ambridge in 1904 started working at various mills and then his father joined him in 1921 to open a grocery store because Grandpa was blacklisted as a organizer for the IWW.

Great Grandpa, Frank Bacon was the son of Civil War Union General Peter Bacon who was in charge of the defense of DC. Frank was a solid Republican activist who became Postmaster of the Congress. He was made the fall guy in a scandal that his fellow Republicans set him up for. He became a hard core Socialist Party member. Both of them continued their grocery store until the CIO called on them to organize the SWOC (Steelworkers Organizing Committee, which was the CIO committee that established the United Steelworkers Union). They really got into the thick of it with the unionizing battles. Grandma told me about how the Coal and Iron Police would kick their door down looking for “Un-American Union Organizers”. Dad stayed in Ambridge until he passed on in 2002. I went home for his funeral, walked all over the town. It was economically deader than a doornail…

Great Grandpa, Grandpa, Grandma and Dad all fought and bled for their union. And now what is so sad is that all of their grandchildren except me and all of their great grandchildren are hard core Republicans who hate Unions…

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ObserverArt Nov 14, 2016 • 7:09:27pm

re: #145 GlutenFreeJesus

Ya know. I know President Obama has said he’s done with politics… but if he were to be DNC chair…

Sigh. Just a pipedream. But damn. What a thought.

I really think the man needs a break. 8 years of stuff that got all of us steamed…and he had to actually deal with it all. And he did.

Very well, thanks Obama!

I think after some time though, he might roar back and do something, but nothing that is going to take the time needed for the DNC.

I think he’d better serve us by doing speeches and media appearances and saying stuff in his way about shit you know he wanted to say. A year or two will add some reflection and depth as he can position all his thoughts.

And then it is Obama Mic Drop Time. And, stop the presses.

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CuriousLurker Nov 14, 2016 • 7:09:58pm

re: #154 Stanley Sea

I read this today. It is all just way too much.

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I just can’t even… WTF, America?

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Unshaken Defiance Nov 14, 2016 • 7:10:01pm

re: #136 Sherlock Hound

7.) Weeping
8.) Disaffirmation
9.) Fitful sleep
10.) Wake up. Trump’s still here. Go to step 1

These lists are all missing one critical point.

RESOLVE.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:10:40pm

re: #222 Joe Bacon

Happy, Grandpa Bacon came to Ambridge in 1904 started working at various mills and then his father joined him in 1921 to open a grocery store because Grandpa was blacklisted as a organizer for the IWW.

Great Grandpa, Frank Baconwas the son of Civil War Union General Peter Bacon who was in charge of the defense of DC during the Civil War. Frank was a solid Republican activist who became Postmaster of the Congress. He was made the fall guy in a scandal that his fellow Republicans set him up for. He became a hard core Socialist Party member. Both of them continued their grocery store until the CIO called on them to organize the SWOC (Steelworkers Organizing Committee, which was the CIO committee that established the United Steelworkers Union). They really got into the thick of it with the unionizing battles. Grandma told me about how the Coal and Iron Police would kick their door down looking for “Un-American Union Organizers”.

They fought and bled for their union. And now what is so sad is that all of their grandchildren except me and all of their great grandchildren are hard core Republicans who hate Unions…

It’s crazy how it all happens. My grandparents’ fathers both swore by John L. Lewis, probably even more than FDR though they loved him too. Well, my great aunt almost voted for Trump because of abortion, she thankfully did not but her children and grandchildren did.

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The Vicious Babushka Nov 14, 2016 • 7:10:51pm

Inbox: Elijah Cummings Calls on Chaffetz to Launch Inquiry into Trump’s So-Called “Blind Trust”. pic.twitter.com/uWlYAcaCuo

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calochortus Nov 14, 2016 • 7:11:16pm

re: #225 Unshaken Defiance

These lists are all missing one critical point.

RESOLVE.

Which will be easier after something has actually happened. Waiting and worrying is both difficult and dispiriting.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:11:45pm

re: #227 The Vicious Babushka

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Worth an effort by Cummings. Doubt Mr. “I can’t bear to face my daughter” will care though.

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VegasGolfer Nov 14, 2016 • 7:12:07pm

wsaz.com

Seems like a couple of nice ladies.

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Belafon Nov 14, 2016 • 7:12:31pm

re: #224 CuriousLurker

I just can’t even… WTF, America?

We’re going to WTF a lot until we can get rid of Trump, but remember this: 60 years ago, that wouldn’t have made the news. Our job is to be angry, defend the person affected, deny the attacker a victory, and let everyone else know what is going on.

Edit: I hate that we’ve even stepped back a little bit, but that’s reality, and we’re going to have to fix it.

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electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 7:13:45pm

I can’t wrap my head around the fact that a man who helped contribute to the decline of NYC’s nightlife (he helped close down the legendary Twilo nightclub in May 2001) is now going to be the Secretary of State.

FUCK MY LIFE.

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electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 7:14:18pm

re: #154 Stanley Sea

I read this today. It is all just way too much.

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He’s also receiving death threats according to local Dallas affiliate KDAF 4 and had to move from his home temporarily for his safety.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:14:23pm

re: #230 VegasGolfer

wsaz.com

Seems like a couple of nice ladies.

The death threats are wrong but what the fuck is her fucking problem? And then calling it a hate crime against her? Rich considering so many conservatives like her don’t think hate crimes are legit in the first place.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:15:25pm

re: #232 electrotek

I can’t wrap my head around the fact that a man who helped contribute to the decline of NYC’s nightlife (he helped close down the legendary Twilo nightclub in May 2001) is now going to be the Secretary of State.

FUCK MY LIFE.

He’s just awful in so many ways and honestly unqualified too. I mean AG I might be able to get but SOS. Wonder why Bolton didn’t get it though.

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Donkey With No Name Nov 14, 2016 • 7:15:32pm

re: #202 Charles Johnson

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This is the fundamental problem with the media internalizing the View From Nowhere: they are literally unable to pass any kind of judgment on their own behalf, but rather have to find “critics” to say it for them. So all value statements can be dismissed as just the opinion of someone with ulterior motives.

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Unshaken Defiance Nov 14, 2016 • 7:15:52pm

re: #228 calochortus

Which will be easier after something has actually happened. Waiting and worrying is both difficult and dispiriting.

I found an outlet in my own neighborhood. I just walk out and see people. Introduce myself in the shops I’ve never shopped in before. I’m finding the resilience around me to be inspiring. We don’t feel beat. We do feel injured and hurt. Adrenaline rises and resolve appears. Head comes up, feet step forward. Women, blacks, Muslims, ordinary denizens of this town.

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VegasGolfer Nov 14, 2016 • 7:15:56pm

re: #223 ObserverArt

And to top it all off, O has to babysit trump during the transition, but because trump is so woefully unprepared to assume the job.

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Joe Bacon Nov 14, 2016 • 7:16:21pm

re: #232 electrotek

I can’t wrap my head around the fact that a man who helped contribute to the decline of NYC’s nightlife (he helped close down the legendary Twilo nightclub in May 2001) is now going to be the Secretary of State.

FUCK MY LIFE.

If you thought Rice was the worst Secretary of State we ever had just wait till Giuliani gets heckled, derided and laughed at by diplomats all over the world!

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ObserverArt Nov 14, 2016 • 7:16:29pm

re: #155 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Maybe he’ll put a balcony on the White House he can rant from like Mussolini.

I was thinking somewhere where he can get double the symbology.

If he positions himself just right he could use the Washington Monument as a backdrop and The Reflecting Pool in foreground as visual effects. One as a huge phallic symbol giving the portrayal of him being a huge dick, and the reflecting pool so he can see himself as did Narcissus.

(Sorry…couldn’t help myself!)

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Nyet Nov 14, 2016 • 7:16:45pm

re: #235 HappyWarrior

Too crazy even for Trump?

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calochortus Nov 14, 2016 • 7:16:50pm

re: #237 Unshaken Defiance

I found an outlet in my own neighborhood. I just walk out and see people. Introduce myself in the shops I’ve never shopped in before. I’m finding the resilience around me to be inspiring. We don’t feel beat. We do feel injured and hurt. Adrenaline rises and resolve appears. Head comes up, feet step forward. Women, blacks, Muslims, ordinary denizens of this town.

Excellent!

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Unshaken Defiance Nov 14, 2016 • 7:17:22pm

re: #232 electrotek

I can’t wrap my head around the fact that a man who helped contribute to the decline of NYC’s nightlife (he helped close down the legendary Twilo nightclub in May 2001) is now going to be the Secretary of State.

FUCK MY LIFE.

You run you not them. ;-)

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VegasGolfer Nov 14, 2016 • 7:17:29pm

re: #234 HappyWarrior

Oh yeah, totally don’t condone that. But now one of those women wants to sue them for slander.

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jaunte Nov 14, 2016 • 7:18:02pm

This is brilliant:
Take a racist demagogue at his word.
His supporters are probably evil
Don’t accept this as normalhttps://t.co/1R7arapnrG

— Charles Jaco (@charlesjaco1) November 15, 2016

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“…Refuse to accept what’s going on as the new normal. Not now, not ever. In the months and years to come, decisions will be made that may strike you as perfectly sound, appointments announced that are inspired, and policies enacted you may even like. Friends and pundits will reach out to you and, invoking nuance, urge you to admit that there’s really nothing to fear, that things are more complex, that nothing is ever black or white. It’s a perfectly sound argument, of course, but it’s also dead wrong: This isn’t about policy or appointments or even about outcomes. This isn’t a political contest—it’s a moral crisis. When an inexperienced, thin-skinned demagogue rides into office by explaining away immensely complex problems while arguing that our national glory demands we strip millions of their dignity or their rights, our only duty is to resist by whatever means permitted us by law. “

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:18:24pm

re: #241 Nyet

Too crazy even for Trump?

I dunno. I suppose we’ll find out. Rudy was a bigger Trump loyalist though. Didn’t see Bolton much at all during the campaign.

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electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 7:18:34pm

re: #234 HappyWarrior

The death threats are wrong but what the fuck is her fucking problem? And then calling it a hate crime against her? Rich considering so many conservatives like her don’t think hate crimes are legit in the first place.

They can dish it but they can’t take it.

Do they need a safe space to spew their hatred about our current First Lady?

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:18:57pm

re: #244 VegasGolfer

Oh yeah, totally don’t condone that. But now one of those women wants to sue them for slander.

How the hell can anyone sue for slander when their own words were quoted? Don’t want to eb called out for being a bigot? Don’t fucking post bigoted shit.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:19:25pm

re: #247 electrotek

They can dish it but they can’t take it.

Do they need a safe space to spew their hatred about our current First Lady?

i believe that safe space is called Breitbart.

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William Lewis Nov 14, 2016 • 7:20:33pm

re: #238 VegasGolfer

And to top it all off, O has to babysit trump during the transition, but because trump is so woefully unprepared to assume the job.

God bless him that he is willing and able to do so. It’s a service to this nation worthy of a medal on it’s own.

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CuriousLurker Nov 14, 2016 • 7:20:34pm

re: #202 Charles Johnson

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FFS, it’s not as if it’s just a perception that some people have, it’s fact.

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Belafon Nov 14, 2016 • 7:20:40pm

re: #236 Donkey With No Name

This is the fundamental problem with the media internalizing the View From Nowhere: they are literally unable to pass any kind of judgment on their own behalf, but rather have to find “critics” to say it for them. So all value statements can be dismissed as just the opinion of someone with ulterior motives.

The irony being, of course, that that’s all FOX does.

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electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 7:20:45pm

re: #249 HappyWarrior

i believe that safe space is called Breitbart.

If only a freakin’ wall can be built around it.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:22:05pm

re: #253 electrotek

If only a freakin’ wall can be built around it.

you know what disturbs me? We’re likely to be talking about Breitbart the same way we do NRO down the road. NRO is bad enough but Breitbart being mainstreamized is even worse.

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Joe Bacon Nov 14, 2016 • 7:22:18pm

The longer this goes on, the more Calexit looks attractive…

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Charles Johnson Nov 14, 2016 • 7:22:41pm

1/5 Even if it were possible for Obama to appoint Garland to the Supreme Court (it isn’t), it wouldn’t make any difference in what’s …

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2/5 headed our way. Garland is basically a “moderate conservative,” and Obama picked him because he thought it was his best chance to …

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 15, 2016

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3/5 get a Supreme Court justice who wasn’t a right wing lunatic before his term ended. But we’re in a world of hurt now, folks. Trump …

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 15, 2016

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4/5 now has the opportunity to appoint far right justices who make Antonin Scalia look like a raving liberal. We’re going to be …

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5/5 regretting this election for decades.

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Stanley Sea Nov 14, 2016 • 7:23:50pm

re: #210 VegasGolfer

Put on paid administrative leave pending investigation.

It’s on video. But yah, follow the procedure.

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electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 7:24:13pm

Tomorrow will the tough day for me as I get back to work from my PTO today.

I’m expected to be promoted to a supervisory position for QA at my office in the next few months. The biggest test will be to focus on my work while the post-election mess is in my mind still. There is a 3 month period to which I need to prove myself and I just wished it didn’t coincide with the damn election

I have to do this for the sake of moving on up, and if I can’t conquer this, then perhaps I’m not cut out to be in a management role. I hope to prove everyone wrong in the face of daunting challenges like this.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:24:42pm

re: #256 Charles Johnson

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It was so disgusting what they did to Garland. I can’t imagine how he feels about all this. Poor guy has served honorably and even was a name they said that they would consider and they made up some bullshit just because they hate the man who appointed him. I still remember the rationalization by you know who here when they did it.

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retired cynic Nov 14, 2016 • 7:24:42pm

re: #256 Charles Johnson

That is just what makes me the sickest. I don’t have any idea how we get over this.

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electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 7:25:00pm

re: #254 HappyWarrior

you know what disturbs me? We’re likely to be talking about Breitbart the same way we do NRO down the road. NRO is bad enough but Breitbart being mainstreamized is even worse.

No shit, and they had the editor calling for women to be hanged for seeking abortions!

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:25:25pm

re: #260 retired cynic

That is just what makes me the sickest. I don’t have any idea how we get over this.

It’s going to be hard. The best we can hope for is they overstep and there’s a massive backlash but I am not holding my breath.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:26:02pm

re: #261 electrotek

No shit, and they had the editor calling for women to be hanged for seeking abortions!

Wiliamson i a staff writer but I hear ya, NRO is awful. I don’t miss it being on our pages at all.

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Stanley Sea Nov 14, 2016 • 7:26:25pm

re: #218 Maddies Mom

Same with me! I think I’ve seen every Fixer Upper, Flip or Flop, Tiny House, House Hunters and Property Brothers episode ever produced! I get a little nervous though, because right before the 2007/2008 housing crash there were a shit ton of Flipping shows and now they’re increasing again.

Together Sister!

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:26:59pm

I’m in the big leagues now though. I have tomorrow off but I’m going to be reviewing a trial transcript. I really got a job at just the right time.

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CuriousLurker Nov 14, 2016 • 7:27:24pm

Over & out. Later, lizards.

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Myron Falwell (no relation) Nov 14, 2016 • 7:28:21pm

re: #254 HappyWarrior

you know what disturbs me? We’re likely to be talking about Breitbart the same way we do NRO down the road. NRO is bad enough but Breitbart being mainstreamized is even worse.

An honest question. How does Breitbart compare to the American Mercury at that magazine’s white supremacist worst? Because it’s the first thing that comes to my mind.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:28:48pm

re: #267 Myron Falwell (no relation)

An honest question. How does Breitbart compare to the American Mercury at that magazine’s white supremacist worst? Because it’s the first thing that comes to my mind.

I can’t answer that. I don’t know the American Mercury hoenstly.

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electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 7:29:01pm

re: #258 electrotek

And if it means having to stay off communities like here for my career growth, then so be it.

I’ve went 7 months without Facebook and a whole year off Instagram, but only a little over a month with Twitter.

I really want to just deactivate all of my social media profiles forever, but that’s never going to happen.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:29:02pm

re: #266 CuriousLurker

Over & out. Later, lizards.

Take care CL.

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Barefoot Grin Nov 14, 2016 • 7:29:49pm

Just wrote a rant about the WWII vets who voted for Trump, but it’s not worth it.

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Charles Johnson Nov 14, 2016 • 7:30:03pm

Trump now has both houses of Congress on his side. The Republican Party is going to move fast to do as much regressive damage as they can.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 15, 2016

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:30:57pm

re: #271 Barefoot Grin

Just wrote a rant about the WWII vets who voted for Trump, but it’s not worth it.

I understand, that’s why I held my tongue and keyboard when I pretty much was going to tell my friend he’s being a partisan hack for acting like the left is uniquely violent- btiching about the protests while not saying a goddamn word about the bigots bullying and even killing people as in Michigan.

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Stanley Sea Nov 14, 2016 • 7:31:25pm

re: #224 CuriousLurker

I just can’t even… WTF, America?

trumps America

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ObserverArt Nov 14, 2016 • 7:31:55pm

re: #266 CuriousLurker

Over & out. Later, lizards.

Right behind you…got works to do on a music video.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:31:58pm

re: #272 Charles Johnson

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I said it earlier but the only reason why Ryan was afraid about supporting him is that he worried about the damage to the conservative and Republican name brand. Well Trump is President now. That’s no longer a concern. I’m convinced that party could nominate an outright Neo-Nazi and if he won, Ryan would start slobbering over him too and doign what he can to help him.

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Belafon Nov 14, 2016 • 7:32:36pm

re: #245 jaunte

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One of the things I realized about me and my smart friends when I was in high school was that because we’re really good at handling complex things, we can tend to make simple things complex. I have often attempted to fight that, generally by realizing that the solution I am coming up with seems way more complicated than the problem. I think that applies here. Trump is a simple person: He has a large ego that needs to be stroked, and he’s a racist and has surrounded himself with similar people.

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BeachDem Nov 14, 2016 • 7:33:18pm

re: #127 Decatur Deb

6.) Do something.

Later. I’m wallowing.

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Stanley Sea Nov 14, 2016 • 7:34:45pm

re: #233 electrotek

He’s also receiving death threats according to local Dallas affiliate KDAF 4 and had to move from his home temporarily for his safety.

The Black VET?

trumps America.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:34:58pm

thehill.com
I hate that I’m starting to appreciate Glenn Beck.

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Belafon Nov 14, 2016 • 7:35:11pm

In addition to Trump having both chambers, he also has the fact that they know that one good slip and they’re in the minority for a long time. And impeachment and conviction of the president would do that. There’s way more incentive not to do anything to Trump than to go after him.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:35:29pm

re: #279 Stanley Sea

The Black VET?

trumps America.

Man that’s just awful.

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electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 7:37:17pm

re: #279 Stanley Sea

The Black VET?

trumps America.

Yep, the black vet.

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Cheechako Nov 14, 2016 • 7:37:53pm

re: #272 Charles Johnson

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I just wonder if there are perhaps 2 or 3 Republican Senators who just might not line up 100% with the Republican Party. ACA, SS, and Medicare could still be the third rail of American politics. Are there any Republican Senator(s) who could be on the bubble with their voters which might make them inclined to “save” the current programs?

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Myron Falwell (no relation) Nov 14, 2016 • 7:38:15pm

re: #268 HappyWarrior

I can’t answer that. I don’t know the American Mercury hoenstly.

I know it’s Wikipedia, but this is still a fascinating read.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:38:39pm

re: #283 electrotek

Yep, the black vet.

I have to say as much as those Trump WWII vet supporters disappoint me. Last thing on my mind would be to threaten them. I fucking hate this. I wish there was someway I could reach out to this man and make him feel appreciated, I doubt it would mean much since I’m a total stranger but goddamn it, that’s just vile.

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teleskiguy Nov 14, 2016 • 7:38:59pm

Final showing until 2034: tonight’s #supermoon! It will appear 30% brighter and 14% bigger than average. Details:https://t.co/LF1dEwvuLu pic.twitter.com/ymOlmZAkxJ

— NASA (@NASA) November 15, 2016

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:39:17pm

re: #285 Myron Falwell (no relation)

I know it’s Wikipedia, but this is still a fascinating read.

No Wiki is good. Mencken, maeks sense.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:40:51pm

‘Tis fifty long years since I saw the moon beaming
On strong manly forms, on eyes with hope gleaming
I see them again, sure, in all my sad dreaming

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William Lewis Nov 14, 2016 • 7:43:22pm

Once upon a time, they tore the gantries down
And the rockets flew no longer to the Moon.
And once upon a time,
We swore that we’d return,
But it doesn’t look like we’ll be back there soon

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Donkey With No Name Nov 14, 2016 • 7:45:19pm

I prefer Donald Fagen’s version:

Countermoon - Donald Fagen - Kamakiriad

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teleskiguy Nov 14, 2016 • 7:45:52pm

The world moves on a womans hips
The world moves and it swivels and bops…The Great Curve https://t.co/Z8DbMyYBxE

— Kelly Carlin (@kelly_carlin) November 15, 2016

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BigPapa Nov 14, 2016 • 7:45:55pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

I got my own family telling me I’m worrying oto much and to give Trump a chance. All supported Clinton FWIW. I really don’t think I’m being hysterical at all seeing who Trump is putting in to positions of influence.

Too hysterical? Maybe they should spend some time reading the Breitbart comments. Like every day for a few months.

Then tell us we’re being hysterical.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:47:28pm

re: #293 BigPapa

Too hysterical? Maybe they should spend some time reading the Breitbart comments. Like every day for a few months.

Then tell us we’re being hysterical.

Might just do that.

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bratwurst Nov 14, 2016 • 7:49:43pm

re: #172 electrotek

I believe international DJ’s and musical performers should boycott performing in states that voted for Trump and stick with states that went blue.

Similar to NC but on a grander scale.

Good idea or bad idea?

Horrible idea.

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Belafon Nov 14, 2016 • 7:51:42pm

re: #293 BigPapa

Too hysterical? Maybe they should spend some time reading the Breitbart comments. Like every day for a few months.

Then tell us we’re being hysterical.

I asked someone at work what they thought about Bannon. When they said they didn’t really know who he was, I told him to look Bannon up, to go to his website, and to look up his views on Lenin.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 7:53:38pm

re: #296 Belafon

I asked someone at work what they thought about Bannon. When they said they didn’t really know who he was, I told him to look Bannon up, to go to his website, and to look up his views on Lenin.

Yeah honestly I think people and I include my own family just don’t know hateful and nasty these fuckers are. They don’t actually like Trump but I do worry they’re falling for the normalization of him. I don’t worry about them ever coming around and supporting him but what I’ve been trying to get across is that he’s not normal in so many ways.

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Charles Johnson Nov 14, 2016 • 7:53:50pm

New Balance decries bigotry after endorsement from Neo-Nazi site https://t.co/SDCEB0q7s9 pic.twitter.com/sbQkNL1xSI

— The Boston Globe (@BostonGlobe) November 15, 2016

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Maybe @NewBalance didn’t realize what they were encouraging by endorsing Trump. @BostonGlobe https://t.co/JlTEqj1Mu7

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teleskiguy Nov 14, 2016 • 7:54:00pm

re: #172 electrotek

I believe international DJ’s and musical performers should boycott performing in states that voted for Trump and stick with states that went blue.

Similar to NC but on a grander scale.

Good idea or bad idea?

The places that the DJs would be boycotting are the places that they need to play the most, offering a glimmer of loud hope for the EDM music fan in, say, Tennessee. When bands were boycotting North Carolina over HB2, punk band Against Me! went to the state and played anyways to lots of adoring fans. Against Me! is fronted by a trans woman.

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Decatur Deb Nov 14, 2016 • 7:54:45pm

re: #298 Charles Johnson

If the shoe fits, mofos…

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Decatur Deb Nov 14, 2016 • 7:58:27pm

Army Corps of Engineers Says Pipeline Construction Can’t Continue Without Tribe Input

nbcnews.com

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BigPapa Nov 14, 2016 • 7:59:25pm

re: #297 HappyWarrior

Yeah honestly I think people and I include my own family just don’t know hateful and nasty these fuckers are. They don’t actually like Trump but I do worry they’re falling for the normalization of him. I don’t worry about them ever coming around and supporting him but what I’ve been trying to get across is that he’s not normal in so many ways.

That’s the problem. They don’t know. The analogy of putting a frog into cold water and bringing it to boil slowly… yes I’m thinking of the irony of Pepe.

This shit is going down forealz.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 8:01:27pm

re: #302 BigPapa

That’s the problem. They don’t know. The analogy of putting a frog into cold water and bringing it to boil slowly… yes I’m thinking of the irony of Pepe.

This shit is going down forealz.

Yeah not good. Better than being Trumpers of course. As I said, there’s no way they’ll ever vote for him but I’m worried they’re falling for the normalizing of Trump we’ve seen since last week.

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Belafon Nov 14, 2016 • 8:02:00pm

re: #297 HappyWarrior

Yeah honestly I think people and I include my own family just don’t know hateful and nasty these fuckers are. They don’t actually like Trump but I do worry they’re falling for the normalization of him. I don’t worry about them ever coming around and supporting him but what I’ve been trying to get across is that he’s not normal in so many ways.

That’s why I challenged my coworker. I can’t tell him that Bannon is bad, but if he can figure it out on his own, there’s more of a chance of getting through.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 8:04:38pm

re: #304 Belafon

That’s why I challenged my coworker. I can’t tell him that Bannon is bad, but if he can figure it out on his own, there’s more of a chance of getting through.

Yeah, that’s true. I think honestly part of is just trying to devil’s advocate me too. And as I said, my Dad really feels like he used up his hatreds in the past and doesn’t want to use them on anyone even Trump. And I guess I understand that.

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Blind Frog Belly White Nov 14, 2016 • 8:04:56pm

re: #234 HappyWarrior

The death threats are wrong but what the fuck is her fucking problem? And then calling it a hate crime against her? Rich considering so many conservatives like her don’t think hate crimes are legit in the first place.

Death threats are absolutely terrible, and should not happen. But if the woman in question loses her job and doesn’t ever find anyone else who will hire her, I won’t shed a tear.

I used to be more forgiving. Didn’t really help much.

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electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 8:05:20pm

re: #299 teleskiguy

The places that the DJs would be boycotting are the places that they need to play the most, offering a glimmer of loud hope for the EDM music fan in, say, Tennessee. When bands were boycotting North Carolina over HB2, punk band Against Me! went to the state and played anyways to lots of adoring fans. Against Me! is fronted by a trans woman.

Yeah you’re right. I got the idea from Deadmau5’s tweet before he deleted it.

Not a fan of his music, and I used to hate the guy’s arrogance for many years. But in the past couple of years I’ve warmed up to him thanks to his Twitter and he is spot on:

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And then the uproar began by the same “anti-PC” crowd:

decadence just called my boooking agent flipping ahit about me posting a map with blue shit on it.

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chill the fuck out arizona…. im still coming to play. fucks sake… CALM DOWN.

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It was hilarious how so many people thought he was serious though.

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electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 8:06:28pm

Just in case if people can’t see the image of the tweet before it was deleted

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 8:06:45pm

re: #306 Blind Frog Belly White

Death threats are absolutely terrible, and should not happen. But if the woman in question loses her job and doesn’t ever find anyone else who will hire her, I won’t shed a tear.

I used to be more forgiving. Didn’t really help much.

I am not as forgiving as I once was too. Kind of saddens me honestly.

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goddamnedfrank Nov 14, 2016 • 8:07:07pm

Imagine you’re a deep cover US asset working inside Russia right now, exactly how secure do you feel w/ @realDonaldTrump as President-Elect?

— Franksgiving (@goddamnedfrank) November 15, 2016

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BigPapa Nov 14, 2016 • 8:07:26pm

If we talk trains and death camps people will react just like they do with climate change: it’s too big and scawy scares to react to it rationally. It needs to be broken down into smaller chunks they can assemble into bigger concepts themselves with a moment of thought on their terms.

Study of denialism and psychiatry shows that hammering people makes them defensive and more prone to outright rejection.

Just point out that Bannon is a whackaloon rich banker that got into propaganda, the white nationalist and anti-semitic kind. Just letting you guys know, please pass me the stuffing.

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teleskiguy Nov 14, 2016 • 8:08:47pm

re: #308 electrotek

He had to have been joking. I mean, deadmau5 not playing in Florida? Texas? No way.

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BigPapa Nov 14, 2016 • 8:10:10pm

If this is a war, it won’t be won in 2020 with a hero.

It will be the skirmishes of minutae on Facebook, between acquaintances and family members. You won’t win them all, some are far gone, choose your battles.

We don’t have 4 years to work with here.

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teleskiguy Nov 14, 2016 • 8:12:26pm

re: #307 electrotek

@deadmau5 I thought it was hilarious, and I’ve never even heard your shit!

— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) November 15, 2016

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Belafon Nov 14, 2016 • 8:13:51pm

re: #313 BigPapa

If this is a war, it won’t be won in 2020 with a hero.

It will be the skirmishes of minutae on Facebook, between acquaintances and family members. You won’t win them all, some are far gone, choose your battles.

We don’t have 4 years to work with here.

Remember the tweet from the other day of the biker looking guy standing next to the woman in the hijab? The conversation ultimately ended up that he would stand up for her if something happened. As much as I’m angry at these types of people for voting for Trump, these are the people we have a chance at if things go in the direction we’re all worrying that they could.

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HappyWarrior Nov 14, 2016 • 8:14:17pm

I’m going to bed. Tired. Take it easy guys. Day by day. Tomorrow will be better.

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Belafon Nov 14, 2016 • 8:15:01pm

Earlier tonight, I announced my run for Democratic National Committee Chair.

Moving toward 2018 and 2020 united… https://t.co/Q3xIL1G2w7

— Jaime Harrison (@Harrison4SC) November 15, 2016

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He’s the chairman of the South Carolina Democratic Party.

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Belafon Nov 14, 2016 • 8:15:54pm

And I missed this:

Give Trump a chance

[Names white nationalist chief strategist]

Give Trump

[Says he’ll overturn Roe]

Give

[Pledges to deport 3 million]

— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) November 14, 2016

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bratwurst Nov 14, 2016 • 8:17:07pm

New: The number of uncounted votes in California has gone *up* since last week. @CASOSvote now reports 4,527,461 ballots still to tally

— Doug Sovern (@SovernNation) November 14, 2016

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when weed gets legalized right in the middle of a big job https://t.co/q48kNtxoVK

— Matt Pearce (@mattdpearce) November 15, 2016

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Blind Frog Belly White Nov 14, 2016 • 8:21:50pm

re: #309 HappyWarrior

I am not as forgiving as I once was too. Kind of saddens me honestly.

Well, if there’s one thing we’ve learned, it’s the value of hate. Republican hate for HRC festered for a quarter of a century, and allowed them to tear her down with nonsensical “scandals”. It just got a completely unqualified person elected President.

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freetoken Nov 14, 2016 • 8:22:43pm

re: #319 bratwurst

Perhaps one of the counties which previously did not report uncounted ballots finally reported.

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William Lewis Nov 14, 2016 • 8:22:46pm

Well, it’s my saturday night and after a few beers it’s time to actually go to bed when it’s dark out. Later Lizards!

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Belafon Nov 14, 2016 • 8:22:53pm

re: #319 bratwurst

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What would really be nice is if those were in PA and FL.

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electrotek Nov 14, 2016 • 8:22:56pm

re: #314 teleskiguy

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I was laughing so hard at those tweets and how the idiots took it seriously.

I wished I would have took Skrillex’s advice. Don’t like his music or fanbase, but met the guy a couple of years ago at Coachella and was a nice humble guy so I’ll always remember that. Here’s what he said:

If you’re upset it’s probably just best to stay off social media right now. It’s just as easy to be stressed as it is to add to it

— SKRILLEX (@Skrillex) November 9, 2016

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Spot on.

Even Diplo, a guy I normally can’t stand, has a sobering assessment about the next 4 years:

The next four years are gonna just be a never ending loop of duck dynasty

— famous dj (@diplo) November 9, 2016

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freetoken Nov 14, 2016 • 8:24:22pm

Here’s the unprocessed ballots report as of 5pm today. It now includes all counties:

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freetoken Nov 14, 2016 • 8:29:06pm

We have more uncounted ballots in San Diego than the entire population of the state of Wyoming.

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jaunte Nov 14, 2016 • 8:33:28pm

Show me the wall to block the robots.

Here’s How Automation Will Prevent Trump’s Job Promises https://t.co/bz0aaXSgiM via @Futurism

— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) November 15, 2016

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN Nov 14, 2016 • 8:37:35pm

re: #315 Belafon

Remember the tweet from the other day of the biker looking guy standing next to the woman in the hijab? The conversation ultimately ended up that he would stand up for her if something happened. As much as I’m angry at these types of people for voting for Trump, these are the people we have a chance at if things go in the direction we’re all worrying that they could.

I wouldn’t count on it. Sure, he talked nice to the lady, but how will he be with a stranger he doesn’t get to talk to. He was wearing that “Proud to be a deplorable” shirt for a reason.

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jaunte Nov 14, 2016 • 8:42:15pm

On the bright side, we may have finally resolved the Fermi Paradox.

— Bill Budge (@BillB) November 15, 2016

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“Where is everybody?”
waitbutwhy.com

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Joe Bacon Nov 14, 2016 • 8:51:40pm

Tom Tomorrow hits a grand slam with this!

Is Susan Sarandon driving again?

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BeachDem Nov 14, 2016 • 9:29:06pm

re: #317 Belafon

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He’s the chairman of the South Carolina Democratic Party.

Jaime is my state chair and a really good guy. He works really hard, with little money, and is always a positive force.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course) Nov 15, 2016 • 4:45:23am

re: #101 MsJ

What what?

I’m embarrassed. I’m livid. I’m sad. I’m emotional as fuck. I hate what my country has become and fearful for what has yet to happen.

This whole Trump Vanity Project is a nightmare of epic proportions.

I can’t stomach the First Whore of the US.

Trump will never be my president. Fuck him and the assholes who support him.

That’s my what these days.

“President Pepe”, is it too soon to introduce that term, along with the phrase, “That’s mighty White of you”?

Spy Auto

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