Seth takes a closer look at Trump’s first State of the Union address and the GOP’s attempts to discredit the Russia investigation.
Nothing Trump reads from a teleprompter during an overly long speech changes anything. He’s still an unqualified, bigoted bully. He’s not going to change.
Go Mueller!
Veterans before refugees. Veterans before illegals. America First! #SOTU
— Tomi Lahren (@TomiLahren) January 31, 2018
Sometimes refugees and undocumented people become those veterans. About 10,600 skilled immigrants and zero Tomi Lahrens are in uniform right now https://t.co/C6NF2IEy9q
— Alex Horton (@AlexHortonTX) January 31, 2018
“Teleprompter Trump” gave an uninspiring speech with a dead fish tone and we’re supposed to be impressed because it was “positive” and “unifying.”
re: #2 FormerDirtDart
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So when are YOU going to walk into a recruiting station and sign up for military duty?
— josephebacon 🌹 (@josephebacon) February 1, 2018
Nunes is out of control.
BREAKING: Discovered late tonight that Chairman Nunes made material changes to the memo he sent to White House – changes not approved by the Committee. White House therefore reviewing a document the Committee has not approved for release. pic.twitter.com/llhQK9L7l6
— Adam Schiff (@RepAdamSchiff) February 1, 2018
My god https://t.co/M4vyfvj9Ul
— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) February 1, 2018
re: #2 FormerDirtDart
Veterans before refugees. Veterans before illegals. America First! #SOTU
— Tomi Lahren (@TomiLahren) January 31, 2018
I’m a veteran. I believe in an America which can take care of veterans, refugees, and undocumented immigrants and reject the white supremacist/fascist hate speech from trolls like Torgo Lampshade https://t.co/Bp6WgWh5zv
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 1, 2018
re: #3 Targetpractice
“Teleprompter Trump” gave an uninspiring speech with a dead fish tone and we’re supposed to be impressed because it was “positive” and “unifying.”
And because he didn’t yell “Pocahontas” at Senator Warren in the middle of the speech. Huge accomplishment.
Isn’t it funny how veterans become a priority only when they can be used as a cudgel against immigrants? Much the same way the poor become a priority only when they can be used against ‘migrant workers’, much the same way mental health becomes a priority only when it can be used against gun control, much the same way…
You don’t give a flying fuck about veterans past using them as a prop to get your hate on, you sad, sad little hatemonger. Go home, Tomi, it’s late.
re: #5 makeitstop
The GOP is out of control. I wonder if they’re so dumb that they believe this memo will have any impact upon its public release. We all know that it’s straight up propaganda so it will only be taken seriously by Trump’s base.
re: #9 Patricia Kayden
That’s unfair.
It’ll totally be taken seriously by much of the political press too, who will further enable that base to go even crazier. Gotta be extra fair to Trump after all.
re: #9 Patricia Kayden
The GOP is out of control. I wonder if they’re so dumb that they believe this memo will have any impact upon its public release. We all know that it’s straight up propaganda so it will only be taken seriously by Trump’s base.
They are all committing treason. They are openly pursuing Putin’s goal of destroying the FBI and Intelligence agencies!
Uh oh!
Panicked Donald Trump Jr. Tries To Cover Up Contact With WikiLeaks By Deleting Firefox Icon From Desktop https://t.co/95G3WyWZHY pic.twitter.com/K2mPQTCLy1
— The Onion (@TheOnion) December 8, 2017
I’m so old I remember when Donald Trump gave his first State of the Union speech.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 1, 2018
To recap, Wolff reported Corallo resigned over concerns he’d witnessed an obstruction attempt.
NYT corroborates what Corallo witnessed, reports he immediately told legal team AND Bannon.
Wolff reported Bannon screamed at Hicks “You don’t know how much trouble you are in.”— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) February 1, 2018
“The Day the Music Died” was this week 1959, after performance at Surf Ballroom, Clear Lake, Iowa: pic.twitter.com/1L9N8zIdcv
— Michael Beschloss (@BeschlossDC) February 1, 2018
Republican congressman invited notorious Holocaust denier who is banned from Twitter to SOTU https://t.co/E4eJrILP7M pic.twitter.com/cldltXU4Uv
— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) February 1, 2018
And folks, remember that the day started with Republican Congressmen getting involved in a train wreck. I got a feeling The Flying Spaghetti Monster was sending them a message
re: #8 Citizen K
My veteran son-in-law is just now back in town from his annual trip to the Kerrville VA hospital where every year he has to go and prove once again that he’s 100% disabled, because Republicans don’t want any veterans trying to cheat them.
At least David Duke loved it so at least you have that going for you.
— Floppy Boot Stomp (@the_edwin_mix) February 1, 2018
I hate to complain, but it’s annoying as hell to see media writing about Chuck C. Johnson and his Holocaust denial without crediting LGF for EXPOSING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. None of these journalists would know about the Rage Furby’s Holocaust denial if I hadn’t publicized it.
But I am glad to see this becoming a persistent meme about this disgusting piece of garbage.
re: #5 makeitstop
Nunes is out of control.
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I suspect Nunes’ “defense” will be to argue that the “facts” in both memos are identical, so the memos are functionally identical but only the one memo will be released so that no comparison can be made.
Charlie Pierce has an interesting take on the SOTU; that DT was so lost that all he could do was read, and that he botched the emphasis points marked in the text for him.
My evidence for this is the fact that, before the address began, we were handed a copy of the prepared text so that we could follow along and, in the not inconsiderable possibility that the president* would pause to bite the head off a live chicken, mark where in the text he chose to do so. Generally, these texts are printed on official stationery and they are presented essentially as a document in conventional prose. Instead, for reasons known only to god, what we were handed were copies of the speech as the president* would read it from the podium. Words and phrases he was supposed to emphasize were written in all caps, not unlike what you’d see in the angry part of a Tweet. For example:
“As I promised the American People from this podium 11 months ago, we enacted the BIGGEST TAX CUTS AND REFORMS IN AMERICAN HISTORY.”
This curious happenstance enabled us to watch in real time as the president* utterly botched the stagecraft of his address. He blew through most of the capitalized points of emphasis, only occasionally leaning into them the way he was supposed to. So, even on its most basic level, the speech was completely unbalanced in what it chose to emphasize. In its substance, of course, this equilibrium was completely out of whack.
re: #23 Targetpractice
I suspect Nunes’ “defense” will be to argue that the “facts” in both memos are identical, so the memos are functionally identical but only the one memo will be released so that no comparison can be made.
Except Rep. Schiff says the changes are “substantive.”
Same Chuck C Johnson featured in alt-right meme warfare theorist Jeff Gisea’s paper “It’s Time to Embrace Memetic Warfare” published in PSYOPs journal edited by Steve Tatham of SCL (Cambridge Analytica’s parent company). https://t.co/45X74SQ6NL pic.twitter.com/CZX1Geocc2
— David Carroll 🦅 (@profcarroll) February 1, 2018
re: #25 retired cynic
Except Rep. Schiff says the changes are “substantive.”
“They’ve no proof (because I won’t release both memos), so this is nothing but a stalling tactic to keep the truth from coming out!”
Seriously, what’s Schiff going to do, go to Ryan demanding Nunes be brought up on ethics charges if not removed from the committee?
It’s not Devin’s fault that GRU requested some last-minute revisions to the memo.
— Bob (@poolboybob) February 1, 2018
What the fuck will it take to get Nunes booted off that Committee?
re: #27 Targetpractice
Mueller is making a list, and checking it twice.
re: #28 teleskiguy
Any journalist interested in learning more about Holocaust denier Chuck C. Johnson and his long history of awfulness, click here: https://t.co/0Y6pYXK7rN
When you get to the bottom, click “Load More.” Rinse. Repeat.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 1, 2018
re: #30 Eclectic Cyborg
What the fuck will it take to get Nunes booted off that Committee?
They’ll finally get rid of him about three months after he flees to Russia.
2. Nunes was asked at a committee hearing if he or his staff coordinated with the White House on the memo and dodged the question.
If there was no coordination, it’s a pretty easy question to answer.— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) February 1, 2018
re: #22 Charles Johnson
That’s a bummer. It even made Right Wing Watch in the daily round-up.
Someone has been just as silent as ASSange. Wonder why?
has anyone checked in on Glenn Greenwald tonight?
— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) February 1, 2018
re: #32 Charles Johnson
What an awful and weird twist of fate that you share a first and last name with that scumbag. It’s thankless work you do, but necessary.
What needs to be investigated by journalists is UpChuck’s supposed connections to the White House. I have a theory, UpChuck is in regular contact with that racist slug Stephen Miller, birds of a feather and all.
re: #38 teleskiguy
Upchuck and Miller are in the same age range too.
@TheRickWilson
“Future historians will summarize what happened to early-21st-century America simply by noting that the Cardinal Richelieu of our time is Steve Doocy. “https://t.co/yr2j2XtBNL— MilitantlyAardvark #FBPE #RESIST (@MilitantlyA) February 1, 2018
Were there any tweets from Babyfingers today? If so, I must have missed them.
re: #41 makeitstop
Were there any tweets from Babyfingers today? If so, I must have missed them.
He last tweeted at exactly 7 p.m. MST yesterday.
Considering last night’s performance, they’ve probably got him doped to the gills as we speak.
We need a running list of nicknames for all these creeps we can refer to so everyone knows who the hell is being talked about. lol
re: #42 teleskiguy
He last tweeted at exactly 7 p.m. MST yesterday.
He’s watching the finger puppet presentation of the Nunes’ memo so he can understand what he’s releasing.
Republicans must be really desperate in order to risk going to war with the career FBI and Justice Department personnel with only a few select bits of deceptively edited classified info as ammunition. They must know that this rat-fuckery won’t go unanswered.
— Photon Herder (@goddamnedfrank) February 1, 2018
re: #43 Targetpractice
Considering last night’s performance, they’ve probably got him doped to the gills as we speak.
He’s self medicating with a half dozen Big Macs, Super Sized Fries, Apple Pies and a dozen Diet Cokes.
re: #45 Ace Rothstein
In some of the Google images she looks like the Caucasian version of Ana Navarro.
re: #43 Targetpractice
Considering last night’s performance, they’ve probably got him doped to the gills as we speak.
Or, since he was a “good prezident” last night, he spent the whole day rolling in Fox accolades on his bed and eating quarter-pounder after quarter-pounder in between buckets of KFC extra-crispy chicken…and a couple quarts of mash’d ‘taters!
It was a good day.
Just occurred to me: Which version of the Nunes’ “memo” has the DOJ and FBI seen? The one that the HPSCI voted on or the one that Devin provided to the WH?
re: #34 jaunte
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Continuing obstruction.
That’s why I’m wondering when Mueller calls it over?
I’m looking at all the birthday wishes friends posted on Facebook and am now realizing that I got more friends than the blob sitting on the Golden Throne in the White House…
re: #53 Joe Bacon 🌹
I’m looking at all the birthday wishes friends posted on Facebook and am now realizing that I got more friends than the blob sitting on the Golden Throne in the White House…
Fuckface Von Clownstick has no friends.
Oh, and Happy Birthday Joe! And many more!
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) February 1, 2018
re: #53 Joe Bacon 🌹
I’m looking at all the birthday wishes friends posted on Facebook and am now realizing that I got more friends than the blob sitting on the Golden Throne in the White House…
Happy Birthday!
MS13 IS COMING TO GET YOU!!!!!! THEY’RE COMING OVER THE BORDER TO RAPE OUR WOMEN AND TAKE OUR JOBS!!!!! SYRIAN REFUGEES ARE ALL SECRET ISIS FIGHTERS!!!!! ONLY TRUMP CAN SAVE US FROM THE DARKIE HOARDS!!!!
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) February 1, 2018
That there is some weapons grade projection.
Prediction: Trump fires Rosenstein by Feb. 16, thinking (correctly) that Graham, et al are bluffing by saying that if he fired Rosenstein his presidency would be over. He knows they’ll never leave him, and he’s right.
re: #58 Ace Rothstein
Prediction: Trump fires Rosenstein by Feb. 16, thinking (correctly) that Graham, et al, are bluffing by saying that if he fired Rosenstein his presidency would be over. He knows they’ll never leave him, and he’s right.
I hope not!! If so, this country is finished
If this memo comes out, I have a long list of less sensitive, but still classified, information that the American people deserve to see. #secretlaw
— Ron Wyden (@RonWyden) January 31, 2018
re: #52 Stanley Sea
Continuing obstruction.
That’s why I’m wondering when Mueller calls it over?
I think when he has a rock solid case against the important players he will release findings strong enough to make it clear what happened. That is about all he can do. So, he will want it to be as powerful and damning as can be.
I think Mueller is very aware his findings need to be bullet proof because the Republicans are going to do all they can to say it doesn’t amount to anything.
Mueller in a way has to build a case strong enough it begins to piss-off GOP congress folk on the edge of supporting Trump and to even cause some questions with some wingnuts. It’s going to be tough.
I think he can ask to continue too, by saying his findings, while deeply troubling and prove corruption, have more avenues to be discovered…it is that bad.
re: #59 Hecuba’s daughter
I take no pleasure in my prediction.
— HAL-9000 🇺🇸 (@HAL9000____) February 1, 2018
How can they release it? Nunes apparently hasn’t finished writing it yet.
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) February 1, 2018
Your dad never went to church until he decided to run for President. He has a shitty family with 2 ex wives, and soon a 3rd. He’s attacking the FBI, dodged the draft because bone spurs, and doesn’t know the words to the National Anthem. You were saying?
— This place is infested with Nazis. (@efuseakay) February 1, 2018
re: #62 Ace Rothstein
I take no pleasure in my prediction.
I hope it doesn’t and I hope you are wrong. But, should it happen, think of all the commercials, videos and actual words of all those Republicans that said his firing Rosenstein would lead to impeachment and then did nothing.
And with that American Democratic “Bots” can spread that all far and wide just like the Russians did and do.
We have never seen a party weave their own rope to hang themselves like the Republican seem content doing. They must think their necks won’t be in it, but weave away anyway. This is historic.
This looks like one of the hardest puzzles.
1000 piece photomosaic Yoda puzzle. Started Jan 5th 9:30pm. Finished Jan 29th 12:30am. 23 Days 3 Hours! pic.twitter.com/uCzD8tCL2K
— Kyle (@paytheslacker) February 1, 2018
re: #63 Ace-o-aces
If a man could be convicted for perpetually looking guilty, Nunes would be serving 500 years. pic.twitter.com/Nm38XxrIyI
— Schooley (@Rschooley) February 1, 2018
Until this country has broken up, and I have to move to either the east or west coast to become Canadian, we are not finished.
They were the government—a gang of rich, mean-spirited old fucks who made democracy work by beating us all stupid.
— Hunter S. Thompson (@GonzoVice) January 31, 2018
IC source who has been a ghost for over a year signals:
“Shit is about to get real.”
OK.
AND?— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) February 1, 2018
300,000 thousand people CANNOT GO TO BED until this person gives it up!
— Sylvia Donoghue (@SylviaDonoghue3) February 1, 2018
TRUST me…this person had been very reliable for a long time, then poof. Radio silence. We’ll see. https://t.co/zJF9JXKhUc
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) February 1, 2018
re: #30 Eclectic Cyborg
What the fuck will it take to get Nunes booted off that Committee?
The Democrats winning control of the House in November.
re: #72 jaunte
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Remember how for 3 months before the election Rick Wilson kept our hopes up with hints about what we eventually found out was The Dossier?
But we didn’t find out until after the election?
He’s often too optimistic about timelines.
re: #8 Citizen K
Isn’t it funny how veterans become a priority only when they can be used as a cudgel against immigrants? Much the same way the poor become a priority only when they can be used against ‘migrant workers’, much the same way mental health becomes a priority only when it can be used against gun control, much the same way…
You don’t give a flying fuck about veterans past using them as a prop to get your hate on, you sad, sad little hatemonger. Go home, Tomi, it’s late.
Yup. All those concerned conservatives when I was homeless just tore me up with their empathy. /s
re: #74 sagehen
Remember how for 3 months before the election Rick Wilson kept our hopes up with hints about what we eventually found out was The Dossier?
But we didn’t find out until after the election?
He’s often too optimistic about timelines.
What if he thought it would be released earlier and then it wasn’t?
As dodgy as all of this stuff has been, it can’t be easy to count on the players that would leak the info. There are greasy people involved, everything becomes slippery.
re: #59 Hecuba’s daughter
I hope not!! If so, this country is finished
No, its not. Then we take to the streets and shut this country down if we have to.
‘Trump is ours again!’ Russian TV host celebrates after White House refuses to enforce new sanctions https://t.co/cB8nT7C2R0
— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) January 30, 2018
re: #74 sagehen
Remember how for 3 months before the election Rick Wilson kept our hopes up with hints about what we eventually found out was The Dossier?
But we didn’t find out until after the election?
He’s often too optimistic about timelines.
Also, I think he himself is unrealistic about what is big news in today’s media climate, which is odd for a media guy. I recall when he was predicting the ‘big news’ of the Access Hollywood tape. Under normal circumstances, that’s true, that’s big news. And any other presidential candidate would be done. But Rick doesn’t realise that the media as a whole, and Republicans, don’t care about Trump scandals, and that they’ll be swept away as soon as possible.
re: #80 Renaissance_Man
We ALL thought he was done. We had no idea of the sickness that lies within those people for whom it was nothing.
Joan Walsh is catching shit (somewhat deservedly) for being perceived as being sympathetic to Hope Hicks. My own feeling it feels off that we are so quick to grant the presumption that a person is deserving of a shot at redemption when they’re young and white while so many minorities never, ever get a second chance. This especially grates in Hicks’ case because of the harm she’s helped the Trump administration inflict on vulnerable populations.
Age isn’t a factor here. Hope has known Drumpf for a long time, so she knew what she was getting into. If she’s smart, she’ll bail and go over to Mueller
— MM (@creekbear) February 1, 2018
Yeah but that would at best be her simply finding an exit out of immediate personal expediency. Whatever “integrity” she might have once possessed has long departed. Her mental calculus clearly isn’t based on considerations of ethics or morality.
— Photon Herder (@goddamnedfrank) February 1, 2018
re: #4 Joe Bacon 🌹
If Ms. Lahren had walked into my station when I was a recruiter, I would have refused her. (Recruiters are not required to sign up everyone who comes in, and people with the attitude “I wanna go over there and kill X” are people you don’t want.)
A neo-nazi terrorist organization here in the US is responsible for the murder of five people last year. Guarantee you Trump will never tweet about them.
I feel like Hope, as a grown pretty white woman, looks too much like someone our society conditions us to sympathize with. While the policies she’s helped Trump to sell and enact have hurt so many minorities who will never, ever get the second chance you want her to receive.
— Photon Herder (@goddamnedfrank) February 1, 2018
re: #83 Anymouse 🌹
If Ms. Lahren had walked into my station when I was a recruiter, I would have refused her. (Recruiters are not required to sign up everyone who comes in, and people with the attitude “I wanna go over there and kill X” are people you don’t want.”
You wouldn’t have to worry about that. She may like threatening others but do you really think she would sacrifice a comfortable life to live in a military barracks, have little freedom over her personal activity and put her life in possible jeopardy?
re: #85 goddamnedfrank
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You are gentler than I’m feeling about her now. How many young adult lives is she trying to fuck up or destroy right now with her complicity? How many young women? How many kids? The list is endless.
Fuck her and the entire administration and all those who are enabling them without consequence.
This is my very first Instagram post. I rode a bicycle on that trail. From over five years ago.
re: #87 allegro
You are gentler than I’m feeling about her now. How many young adult lives is she trying to fuck up or destroy right now with her complicity? How many young women? How many kids? The list is endless.
Fuck her and the entire administration and all those who are enabling them without consequence.
I have no sympathy at all for Hope. If she can save herself from prison by turning on Trump then great, but she’ll still be trash as far as I’m concerned. I’m just being gentle with Joan because I think she honestly is navigating through the cognitive biases that cause her to see Hicks as worth redeeming.
re: #54 teleskiguy
Fuckface Von Clownstick has no friends.
Oh, and Happy Birthday Joe! And many more!
Happy annual demarcation of an arbitrary point on the Earth’s orbital path, Mr. Bacon! Many more revolutions!
Meanwhile in Canada. Marijuana has it’s own commodities page.
It’s a very sad day in the East Bay Times Walnut Creek office. 17 goodbye cards to sign. Each card represents about a quarter of a century of institutional knowledge. They served the communities. And they’re our friends.#supportlocaljournalism pic.twitter.com/NYswxPFEZm
— Matthias Gafni (@mgafni) January 31, 2018
re: #86 Hecuba’s daughter
You wouldn’t have to worry about that. She may like threatening others but do you really think she would sacrifice a comfortable life to live in a military barracks, have little freedom over her personal activity and put her life in possible jeopardy?
During the run-up to the Persian Gulf War, I did throw out (gently, by sending them to the Army Recruiter, who kept telling me to stop that) people who wanted to sign up and go over there to kill [slur for Arabs].
The racial slurs were usually the giveaway that you didn’t want that person.
In recruiting school, instructors pointed out recruiters are the gatekeepers to entry in the military, and you don’t want to sign up someone who you don’t want to serve with.
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) January 31, 2018
I just tried ordering this knife from amazon. Got all the way to check out and they can’t ship to my address. I can only assume it is because it is an assisted opener and I live in MA.
Of course this knife is entirely legal to carry in MA, even if it was a full blown switchblade, the blade is only 1.4”. This must be some sort of new Amazon thing since I have ordered all sorts of pocket knives from them in the past. First they get rid of the overnight option on most of the prime stuff, then they start missing shipping deadlines, and now they wont ship to me at all. Starting to wonder if prime is still worth it(ok, not really it is still worth it for Christmas alone).
re: #95 danarchy
Strange. I can buy this knife online in California. Flick the quillon with your finger and it opens as fast and easy as any switchblade.
re: #89 goddamnedfrank
I suspect that Hope Hicks is going to find out that her boss views her as cannon fodder and quite expendable.
When her presence becomes inconvenient she is going to be tossed under the bus.
re: #97 ckkatz
I suspect that Hope Hicks is going to find out that her boss views her as cannon fodder and quite expendable.
When her presence becomes inconvenient she is going to be tossed under the bus.
In other words, conservatism as usual.
See also the Saturday Night Massacre under Nixon.
re: #95 danarchy
I just tried ordering this knife from amazon. Got all the way to check out and they can’t ship to my address. I can only assume it is because it is an assisted opener and I live in MA.
Of course this knife is entirely legal to carry in MA, even if it was a full blown switchblade, the blade is only 1.4”. This must be some sort of new Amazon thing since I have ordered all sorts of pocket knives from them in the past. First they get rid of the overnight option on most of the prime stuff, then they start missing shipping deadlines, and now they wont ship to me at all. Starting to wonder if prime is still worth it(ok, not really it is still worth it for Christmas alone).
Flippers aren’t legally any different from other locking folders so it’s probably a local city ordinance. Some websites won’t ship bows here because of a Simi Valley ordinance that classifies bows and arrows as “firearms.”
5-22.01 Firearm defined.
For the purposes of this chapter, “firearm” shall mean and include rifle, shotgun, pistol, revolver, bow and arrow, or any air, gas, or spring weapon, or any other device from which any shot, bullet, or projectile is discharged by force of gunpowder, pressure, or other explosive, including any projectile which carries or contains its own fuel and is propelled by reaction.
(§ 5211-1, S.V.M.C., as amended by § 1, Ord. 455, eff. December 10, 1980)
Also, that bottle opener hook on the flipper nub looks like it might snag on clothing.
re: #96 Single-handed sailor
Interesting knife point. Looks like no sharpened edge around it.
In the Army, when I was in the field I used to carry a sheath knife with a similar kind of point. Mostly so I could open cans and pry open things.
It was no where near as nice or as cool as your folder. It was just an inexpensive old surplus thing in case I lost it.
re: #94 teleskiguy
At Jerome Corsi:
Number of Amtrak trains hijacked by liberals: 0
Number of Amtrak trains hijacked by conservative white supremacists: 1
In this area we’ve had three train wrecks over the last year: two coal trains hit corn trucks, one coal train derailed.
re: #100 ckkatz
Interesting knife point. Looks like no sharpened edge around it.
In the Army, when I was in the field I used to carry a sheath knife with a similar kind of point. Mostly so I could open cans and pry open things.
It was no where near as nice or as cool as your folder. It was just an inexpensive old surplus thing in case I lost it.
Tanto blade, edged on front, good for stabbing cars.
re: #100 ckkatz
Interesting knife point. Looks like no sharpened edge around it.
In the Army, when I was in the field I used to carry a sheath knife with a similar kind of point. Mostly so I could open cans and pry open things.
It was no where near as nice or as cool as your folder. It was just an inexpensive old surplus thing in case I lost it.
I kind of want to get a Medford Praetorian Ti because it’s just such a beautifully butt ugly, quarter inch thick, heavy as fuck folding pry bar that happens to have an edge. Unfortunately I would also need to be high on drugs while having like twelve hundred dollars burning a hole in my pocket so it’s probably never going to happen.
re: #102 Single-handed sailor
I must admit that I have not had much call for stabbing cars in my life. And I am fine with that. :)
But I can see your point. (I’ll show myself out now…)
The different types of blade designs and the problems they are designed to solve are very interesting. Admittedly, I am not very familiar with the Japanese and other Asian blade designs nor their intended uses.
re: #103 goddamnedfrank
Beautiful knife!
I agree with you. My preferred approach also has been to go for sturdy/tough in a knife. My experience has been knives tend to break when they are most needed and when it is not possible to replace them, like bfe.
I also agree that spending $1200 for a knife only to lose it in the leaf litter someplace I will probably never return to, is probably a bad idea.
re: #103 goddamnedfrank
What the fuck is this?!?
re: #106 teleskiguy
That’s the nicest knife I’ve ever seen.
re: #105 ckkatz
Beautiful knife!
I agree with you. My preferred approach also has been to go for sturdy/tough in a knife. My experience has been knives tend to break when they are most needed and when it is not possible to replace them, like bfe.
I also agree that spending $1200 for a knife only to lose it in the leaf litter someplace I will probably never return to, is probably a bad idea.
In reality I tend to go for Spyderco knives. My first was the original Viele that I got back around 1999. I also have a Phoenix, the Dodo reissue that came with carbon scales, a Manix 2 XL and a Rock Salt that I use as a dive knife. I bought my Dad a Sage 4 just before they were discontinued and I’d like to pick up a Native 5 in titanium but have other priorities for the moment.
I can’t get my mind around a $1200 pocket knife. I like knives, but I have a very utilitarian view of them. They’re for opening packages and coring apples for lunch.
I used to have a Gerber EZ Out, but the black polymer handle and drop point scared people. So I got an all-stainless Buck folder for $20 on Ebay. And it holds an edge better than the Gerber.
Well, I’m back after my Internet service decided to take a powder for a few minutes.
I was just getting ready to call the landline phone company of doom when LGF suddenly updated and my wife’s Hulu video restarted.
re: #109 Blind Frog Belly White
I can’t get my mind around a $1200 pocket knife.
It’s utterly insane. It’s also nowhere near the absolute high end in terms of price. This is just the most recently added page at Arizona Custom Knives.
While we’re talking about knives, the ones I really drool over are the kitchen knives made by Shosui Takeda. He uses a very high carbon steel called Aogami Super Blue sandwiched between layers of stainless. The cost runs like $300 to $500 each and they kind of look like hammered shit, but to me they’re beautiful. I don’t have any, yet.
re: #108 goddamnedfrank
In reality I tend to go for Spyderco knives. My first was the original Viele that I got back around 1999. I also have a Phoenix, the Dodo reissue that came with carbon scales, a Manix 2 XL and a Rock Salt that I use as a dive knife. I bought my Dad a Sage 4 just before they were discontinued and I’d like to pick up a Native 5 in titanium but have other priorities for the moment.
Just looking at the Rock Salt on the SpyderCo site. It looks like a very nice knife, with nice features, and not a bad price. Not familiar with the specific alloy, H-1 used, but rustproof sounds good. I will admit that the blade design seems more of a chopping knife.
Some of the others seem to have a hole in the blade. I have always wondered what that was for. My first thought was that it might weaken the blade.
re: #109 Blind Frog Belly White
I can’t get my mind around a $1200 pocket knife. I like knives, but I have a very utilitarian view of them. They’re for opening packages and coring apples for lunch.
I used to have a Gerber EZ Out, but the black polymer handle and drop point scared people. So I got an all-stainless Buck folder for $20 on Ebay. And it holds an edge better than the Gerber.
Heh, I probably still have my buck folder from the early 1980’s. It provided a lot of service. Yes, Gerber was the big thing back in those days at the PX. I still have my Gerber boot knife. But you are right, the Gerber edges always seemed extremely sharp, but very thin and very fragile.
re: #113 ckkatz
Just looking at the Rock Salt on the SpyderCo site. It looks like a very nice knife, with nice features, and not a bad price. Not familiar with the specific alloy, H-1 used, but rustproof sounds good. I will admit that the blade design seems more of a chopping knife.
Some of the others seem to have a hole in the blade. I have always wondered what that was for. My first thought was that it might weaken the blade.
Honestly the edge holding is pure garbage and it’d probably be more useful as an abalone iron. That’s the tradeoff for truly being rustproof. If you want the exact same knife in a decent steel try to find the discontinued Schemp Rock, which was made in VG-10.
The hole is useful for opening the folders and I prefer it to a thumb post or flipper nub but makes no sense at all on the fixed blades. Spyderco just adds it to the fixies because they’ve made it their trademark. They’ve tried suing other folding blade makers for using it but it’s basically indefensible in court because you can’t trademark truly functional elements. Still that doesn’t keep them from talking about their “trademarked round hole.”
So. The heads of ALL THREE Russian intel agencies come to Washington secretly, meet with allies of president, and then somehow sanctions get bungled and Putin + cronies off hook before Russian elex.
Sure. This is fine.
https://t.co/rHyXtuPYVw— Molly McKew (@MollyMcKew) February 1, 2018
re: #116 Kragar
At this rate, instead of Radio Free Europe, we’re going to need a Radio Free America.
re: #108 goddamnedfrank
You are an interesting person who should be living up Woody Creek outside of Aspen, CO.
re: #112 goddamnedfrank
While we’re talking about knives, the ones I really drool over are the kitchen knives made by Shosui Takeda. He uses a very high carbon steel called Aogami Super Blue sandwiched between layers of stainless. The cost runs like $300 to $500 each and they kind of look like hammered shit, but to me they’re beautiful. I don’t have any, yet.
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Looks and sounds like a beautiful knife.
Sounds like it is made via a form of the Damascus process? Is it fully stainless/rustproof or does the high carbon have issues when wet? I suspect that the edge would hold up perfectly sharp for precision cutting?
re: #116 Kragar
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Yup, these are the guys who have and are orchestrating the attack on our elections and our sovreignty. To essentially sneak them into the country unannounced for secret meetings.
And then the Russians taunt us.
The November elections are so incredibly critical.
re: #119 ckkatz
Looks and sounds like a beautiful knife.
Sounds like it is made via a form of the Damascus process? Is it fully stainless/rustproof or does the high carbon have issues when wet? I suspect that the edge would hold up perfectly sharp for precision cutting?
I imagine the edge will rust quite badly if left wet. I think the stainless layers are just cheaper than the Aogami Super Blue to use and probably softer so the overall knife doesn’t end up too brittle. Also apparently the new Takedas aren’t as good as the old ones, which had a much thinner bevel.
President Trump reached across the aisle to offer a bipartisan path forward in the State of the Union. Now we’ll see if Democrats love America more than they hate the President and will actually work together with Republicans to do what’s right for our country.
— Sarah Sanders (@PressSec) February 1, 2018
Trump: “We want to run this country into the ground, wipe out the middle class, and destroy America’s standing in the world.”
Dems: “We can’t let you do that.”
GOP: “WHY AREN’T YOU WILLING TO WORK WITH US?” https://t.co/XHpBeIO5BY— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 1, 2018
re: #8 Citizen K
Isn’t it funny how veterans become a priority only when they can be used as a cudgel against immigrants?…
A similar argument was used in Germany about how there is not enough money for their own poor people because of the cost of caring for the flood of Syrian & African refugees.
To which a leader of the Left party commented “Even without the refugees, there would not be enough money for poor people!”
re: #9 Patricia Kayden
The GOP is out of control. I wonder if they’re so dumb that they believe this memo will have any impact upon its public release. We all know that it’s straight up propaganda so it will only be taken seriously by Trump’s base.
The point of the Mueller investigation is to present clear and incontrovertible evidence of wrongdoing, thereby forcing Congress to act or appear to be complicit.
This memo is an attempt to discredit the FBI’s findings in advance so they can ignore them.
re: #87 allegro
You are gentler than I’m feeling about her now. How many young adult lives is she trying to fuck up or destroy right now with her complicity? How many young women? How many kids? The list is endless.
Fuck her and the entire administration and all those who are enabling them without consequence.
Walsh’s argument is appalling. An honest to God WTF? Her parents are Democrats? Who cares?
Well Jeffrey Dahmer and Ted Bundy had parents, too.
Who cares what affiliation her parents are? She willingly went down her path. Your argument is appalling.— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) February 1, 2018
“No matter why it hurts, dogs make you feel better.” pic.twitter.com/eNGt64qMJo
— Fluff Society (@FluffSociety) January 31, 2018
Happened in Spain, but there has got to be a Trump joke in this somewhere:
If trump is having an affair, I’m placing a bet on her. She looks like Melania, is closer to Ivanka’s age and will apparently do anything. Wife number four coming up.
If the side piece fits, you can’t acquit. You ironed his pants when he was still in them. Who does that if you aren’t in bed? Hope, you gotta flip on your bigly daddy. #DopeQueen pic.twitter.com/9eKxfiLCVZ
— Barbara Malmet (@B52Malmet) February 1, 2018
re: #112 goddamnedfrank
While we’re talking about knives, the ones I really drool over are the kitchen knives made by Shosui Takeda. He uses a very high carbon steel called Aogami Super Blue sandwiched between layers of stainless. The cost runs like $300 to $500 each and they kind of look like hammered shit, but to me they’re beautiful. I don’t have any, yet.
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That really was a Hattori Hanzo sword.
re: #112 goddamnedfrank
While we’re talking about knives, the ones I really drool over are the kitchen knives made by Shosui Takeda. He uses a very high carbon steel called Aogami Super Blue sandwiched between layers of stainless. The cost runs like $300 to $500 each and they kind of look like hammered shit, but to me they’re beautiful. I don’t have any, yet.
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That’s better than what we have. We have a pretty old Masahiro. It looks just like the Shosui you show. But it’s still pretty awesome.
Heh.
How’s Ed Asner doing?
— Fellatio Alger (@atomiclust) January 16, 2018
I’m fine thank you. That’s quite a name. https://t.co/fBvbbujHpl
— Ed Asner (@TheOnlyEdAsner) January 31, 2018
Damn, Jon. Tell it like it is, brother!
Thank you President Trump. Americans are “Dreamers” too.
— David Duke (@DrDavidDuke) January 31, 2018
Fuck you, you racist pig.https://t.co/GuiF5T1qNR
— Jon Cooper (@joncoopertweets) January 31, 2018
I tweeted the below in response to an obnoxious post by David Duke, the former Grand Wizard of the KKK. The vast majority of folks agree with me and think my wording is totally appropriate, but some folks object to my use of a vulgarity. WHAT DO YOU THINK? https://t.co/M1DUc3x1bi
— Jon Cooper (@joncoopertweets) January 31, 2018
I tweeted the below in response to an obnoxious post by David Duke, the former Grand Wizard of the KKK. The vast majority of folks agree with me and think my wording is totally appropriate, but some folks object to my use of a vulgarity. WHAT DO YOU THINK?
Vulgarity is now part of the culture of public discourse, so go out and grab ‘em by the pussy!
Pornhub offers Philly police an alternative to Crisco for Super Bowl prep
A porn site is offering the City of Brotherly Love a helping hand.
Bracing for massive celebrations Sunday with the Eagles in the Super Bowl, Philadelphia announced it will not use Crisco again to thwart rioting fans from climbing street lights, so Pornhub is offering two 55-gallon barrels of lubricant to use instead.
Philly police tried to prevent rioting before NFC title game by greasing the light poles around town.
Police Commissioner Richard Ross said this week they won’t use Crisco because it didn’t work the last time. Prior to the NFC title game, “Crisco Cops” slathered grease on telephone poles and street lights, but some fans still managed to scale the poles as crowds chanted, “F—k that grease!”
Release the MEMO!!!!!
Media person: FBI has released statement expressing grave concerns about the Republican memo…
Fake news! Where is link to statement? Hah! Busted libtards!
Media person: Here is link
Shutup corrupt deep state FBI! You’re busted! How dare you criticize our holy memo which no one has seen but that we know is The TRoof!
Called it in the previous thread… so predictable - 8 million fewer viewers at 40.4 million is “the highest in history”…
Also, why bother lying about the number - claiming it’s 45.6 million - when it’s still lower than Obama’s 48 million?
Thank you for all of the nice compliments and reviews on the State of the Union speech. 45.6 million people watched, the highest number in history. @FoxNews beat every other Network, for the first time ever, with 11.7 million people tuning in. Delivered from the heart!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 1, 2018
re: #126 Kragar
Trump: Illegal immigrants and all immigrants actually are murderers and rapists. Build the Wall now!
Sanders: See what great hands have been stretched across the aisle! Work with us now or you hate America!
If this memo comes out, I have a long list of less sensitive, but still classified, information that the American people deserve to see. #secretlaw
— Ron Wyden (@RonWyden) January 31, 2018
This is how it will go https://t.co/35jHSecmVb
— Preet Bharara (@PreetBharara) February 1, 2018
How about a redacted version of Trump’s tax returns?
re: #57 Ace-o-aces
That there is some weapons grade projection.
“Such great working across the aisle! Democrats better work with our great MAGA president!”
Bitcoin’s market value fell by more in January than Ford’s entire market capitalization https://t.co/Hlbzl3LURl pic.twitter.com/BJZ0QlmOlM
— Bloomberg (@business) February 1, 2018
U.S. democracy is in grave danger, a new Economist report warns https://t.co/hjhQX7j8Cl
— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) February 1, 2018
This is a warning. Take heed, America. https://t.co/xH7k9cbGrT
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) February 1, 2018
re: #145 MsJ
Bitcoin’s market value fell by more in January than Ford’s entire market capitalization
thus highlighting the important difference between a cryptocurrency and a national currency…such fluctuation are rare in “real” currencies that are based on some concrete notion of value
Oh. I don’t even know…LOL
Real quote: “Donald is known for saying ‘You’re fired’; maybe I will be known for saying ‘Aflac.’” https://t.co/RnOdjRLWYd
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) February 1, 2018
re: #97 ckkatz
I suspect that Hope Hicks is going to find out that her boss views her as cannon fodder and quite expendable.
When her presence becomes inconvenient she is going to be tossed under the bus.
She has to get out from under the desk first.
re: #112 goddamnedfrank
While we’re talking about knives, the ones I really drool over are the kitchen knives made by Shosui Takeda. He uses a very high carbon steel called Aogami Super Blue sandwiched between layers of stainless. The cost runs like $300 to $500 each and they kind of look like hammered shit, but to me they’re beautiful. I don’t have any, yet.
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Check out the Yoshikane brand at epicedge.com too. I have a few for work. The SKD Japanese tool steel used for some of them (the hammer finished line) is amazing. :)
Carter Page was known to U.S. counterintelligence officials for years before he became a prominent figure in the Steele dossier.
WSJ reports Page was known to officials dating back to at least 2013, nearly 3 years before he joined the Trump campaign. https://t.co/LB21hXHicS— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) February 1, 2018
Also before Crimea, which is a vital benchmark/expansion in much of this activity. https://t.co/37vY0Q6w3C
— Molly McKew (@MollyMcKew) February 1, 2018
I’m a couple years older than Hicks. She has free will. She knew what she got into working for Trump. Her parents being Dems is irrelevant. IIRC so are Stephen Miller’s. Hicks isn’t a child. The only person in the Trump inner circle I feel bad for is Barron because he’s an actual kid and it appears his father is never there for him.
re: #152 HappyWarrior
I’m a couple years older than Hicks. She has free will. She knew what she got into working for Trump. Her parents being Dems is irrelevant. IIRC so are Stephen Miller’s. Hicks isn’t a child. The only person in the Trump inner circle I feel bad for is Barron because he’s an actual kid and it appears his father is never there for him.
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re: #153 makeitstop
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re: #152 HappyWarrior
I’m a couple years older than Hicks. She has free will. She knew what she got into working for Trump. Her parents being Dems is irrelevant.
any association with Democrats is seen as a slur on her personality, she might as well have had a black slave great-great grandmother. Or they might insinuate her parents supported McCain instead of Bush in the 2000 GOP primaries.
re: #156 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
any association with Democrats is seen as a slur on her personality, she might as well have had a black slave great-great grandmother. Or they might insinuate her parents supported McCain instead of Bush in the 2000 GOP primaries.
? Well I think you’re reading too much into what Joan Walsh, who is progressive minded said. She thinks Hope having a Democratic pedigree makes her somewhat sympathetic and her folks are probably worried about her. I might get that sentiment were she an intern but Hope is a key WH staffer.
Read this thread. Really.
(THREAD) 1/ Let’s deal head-on with this GOP attempt to get Mueller to resign, shall we? First, consider Rep Matt Gaetz (FL) leads charge.
— Sarah Smith (@SLSmith000) November 8, 2017
I like this about Gowdy:
TREY GOWDY retiring: “I will not be filing for re-election to Congress nor seeking any other political or elected office.”
— Sabrina Siddiqui (@SabrinaSiddiqui) January 31, 2018
He’s not having fun anymore. He expected at least four more years of grandstanding over imaginary Hillary Clinton scandals, and all he got was a stupid MAGA hat. https://t.co/r12Sme4fbl
— Kara Calavera (@KaraCalavera) January 31, 2018
A person familiar with the lawmaker’s plans said that Mr. Gowdy had turned down an offer by the Trump administration to nominate him for a judgeship on the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit and that he planned to enter private practice in South Carolina instead.
re: #159 Belafon
I like this about Gowdy:
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It was easier for him when he got to be HRC’s tormentor. Now that he actually has to work.
re: #146 MsJ
It’s good, but there’s optimism I keep mentioning. We’ve got bad people in bad places, but our Democracy will only be destroyed if people give up. And I feel like people are finally awake.
In that perverse bit of history, Republicans would have been able to do much more long term damage, basically becoming the ruling party for the next decade or so, had Hillary won. They would have cleaned up in the elections this year. But not only do they not have apathetic Democrats, their philosophy has been laid bare.
re: #162 Belafon
It’s good, but there’s optimism I keep mentioning. We’ve got bad people in bad places, but our Democracy will only be destroyed if people give up. And I feel like people are finally awake.
In that perverse bit of history, Republicans would have been able to do much more long term damage, basically becoming the ruling party for the next decade or so, had Hillary won. They would have cleaned up in the elections this year. But not only do they not have apathetic Democrats, their philosophy has been laid bare.
I can’t phrase this well but my fear going into 2016 was that had HRC won, we’d see another ugly midterm in 2018, and then Republicans would try to play off Dem in the WH fatigue in 2020. I mean I hate where we are but my belief was we were sort of in a rough situation either way.
re: #163 HappyWarrior
I can’t phrase this well but my fear going into 2016 was that had HRC won, we’d see another ugly midterm in 2018, and then Republicans would try to play off Dem in the WH fatigue in 2020. I mean I hate where we are but my belief was we were sort of in a rough situation either way.
That does seem to be the silver lining here, and the degree of motivation and mobilization we have seem among Dems would never have happened following a HRC victory.
re: #112 goddamnedfrank
Frank knows knives……
re: #151 JordanRules
Well, that kind of blows a hole in Nunes’ memo.
re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
That does seem to be the silver lining here, and the degree of motivation and mobilization we have seem among Dems would never have happened following a HRC victory.
Yeah no way do we win that Alabama senate seat. We are where we are. I’m eager to learn the lessons of 2016 and give Trump an ass kicking this fall and in 2020.
re: #166 Belafon
Indeed! Another hole. A huge one.
re: #136 MsJ
Damn, Jon. Tell it like it is, brother!
Thank you President Trump. Americans are “Dreamers” too.
The only “Dreamers” you know, David, dream about ropes, trees, and burning crosses.
You know, it’s easy for me to see how fake right wing bullshit works. Don’t know if you guys have seen the one with the fake Pelosi tweet following the tax cut’s passage. I have no desire to respond to all the RW bullshit I see because I know that they already know that the fake shit happened and that they don’t want to be told they were duped.
re: #170 HappyWarrior
You know, it’s easy for me to see how fake right wing bullshit works. Don’t know if you guys have seen the one with the fake Pelosi tweet following the tax cut’s passage. I have no desire to respond to all the RW bullshit I see because I know that they already know that the fake shit happened and that they don’t want to be told they were duped.
I occasionally just ask people “Do you like to be conned?” and leave it at that. I don’t care at that point about the answer, but it’s my last word in.
re: #171 Belafon
I occasionally just ask people “Do you like to be conned?” and leave it at that. I don’t care at that point about the answer, but it’s my last word in.
I pretty much told my one conservative friend when he posted something so easy to research and debunk that him posting it made him look uninformed. Then the next day, he posted something equally incorrect and I just shrugged my shoulders. Sigh. I don’t dislike social media but it can be poisonous in spreading propaganda in a way like we’ve never seen before.
Imagine this…
HRC becomes President and they do try to take her down on some blatant RU assisted BS
Weinstein happens, all those dominoes continue to fall
HRC is in a singularly powerful position to speak out about it because she’s the Leader of the Free World and a woman
Republicans are using all the same shitty tactics, resources and candidates
RU does some shitty hacking and are rightly pegged as a threat
Obama is in a unique position now since his legacy is being upheld and celebrated
HRC continues to work harder, stabilizing the world in some ways while being subjected horrible stuff from the GOP and RU.
Women and Dems then become mobilized for a blue wave to support her and democracy rather than resist the regime that stole it from her and us.
Could’ve happened that way too! :)
re: #129 MsJ
Walsh’s argument is appalling. An honest to God WTF? Her parents are Democrats? Who cares?
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Joan sometimes gets a little wobbly in her thinking. I remember many times seeing her on MSNBC shows and thinking WTF?
A knife is only as good as the cutting edge you can put on it.
re: #173 JordanRules
only in a universe in which HRC won in the first place, namely, not our timeline
re: #173 JordanRules
Imagine this…
HRC becomes President and they do try to take her down on some blatant RU assisted BS
Weinstein happens, all those dominoes continue to fall
HRC is in a singularly powerful position to speak out about it because she’s the Leader of the Free World and a woman
Republicans are using all the same shitty tactics, resources and candidates
RU does some shitty hacking and are rightly pegged as a threat
Obama is in a unique position now since his legacy is being upheld and celebrated
HRC continues to work harder, stabilizing the world in some ways while being subjected horrible stuff from the GOP and RU.
Women and Dems then become mobilized for a blue wave to support her and democracy rather than resist the regime that stole it from her and us.Could’ve happened that way too! :)
That’s true too. We’ll never know unfortunately.
re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Did I misread a bunch of comments?
Folks were saying what wouldn’t have happened if she won and I countered with another possible scenario.
The U.S. military’s latest test of its Standard Missile 3 Block IIA ballistic missile interceptor has reportedly failed. So far, it’s unclear what happened, and the weapon is still in development, but it does come amid months of escalating tensions between the United States and North Korea and reports that authorities in Pyongyang are planning a parade with hundreds of ballistic missiles, likely in no small part to dissuade the U.S. government from considering a limited “bloody nose” strike.
CNN was first to report the apparent failure on Jan. 31, 2018. The test launch would be the fifth for the weapon, commonly referred to as the SM-3 Block IIA, and the third in which it attempted to actually intercept another missile. The last such experiment, which occurred in June 2017, also failed, but this was because a U.S. Navy sailor accidentally triggered the missile’s self-destruct function. Another SM-3 Block IIA had successfully knocked down a target for the first time four months earlier. The U.S. military plans to eventually add the weapons to the Navy’s Arleigh Burke-class destroyers and install them at fixed Aegis Ashore sites in Europe. Japan is a major partner in the program and plans to equip its own warships with the weapon and establish land-based Aegis Ashore facilities within its territory.
re: #169 Belafon
The only “Dreamers” you know, David, dream about ropes, trees, and burning crosses.
Something a lot of people don’t realize is that the Trump show of racism actually boosts his approval ratings because his voters are racists and it distracts from his toxic unpopular agenda of giving the country away to corporations.
re: #149 GlutenFreeJesus
She has to get out from under the desk first.
Heh.
Would it not be justice that Hope turns on Trump, admits she is under the desk often, Trump says he didn’t have sex with…that woman…and that is what actually brings him down.
re: #8 Citizen K
Isn’t it funny how veterans become a priority only when they can be used as a cudgel against immigrants? Much the same way the poor become a priority only when they can be used against ‘migrant workers’, much the same way mental health becomes a priority only when it can be used against gun control, much the same way…
You don’t give a flying fuck about veterans past using them as a prop to get your hate on, you sad, sad little hatemonger. Go home, Tomi, it’s late.
Veterans who are DREAMers. Under the GOP proposals, they’d be screwed and they and/or their families would be deported.
Veterans first? No. It’s nativist/xenophobic policies first and foremost. @josephebacon @TomiLahren— lawhawk (@lawhawk) February 1, 2018
They serve. They do honorable work. The GOP would give them all the boot because they’re not white and European. It’s nativism and xenophobia and flat out racism. Trump’s immigration policy was drafted with white supremacists and bigots in mind, and they’re the strongest supporters of this.
They want to slow immigration to the lowest levels in nearly 100 years - and it’s no accident. It’s slamming the door on legal immigration shut. Both in total numbers and on percentage basis, the GOP is looking to eliminate immigration, especially when those immigrants are coming from non European nations, because how dare someone come to the US looking for a better life.
re: #173 JordanRules
Imagine this…
HRC becomes President and they do try to take her down on some blatant RU assisted BS
Weinstein happens, all those dominoes continue to fall
HRC is in a singularly powerful position to speak out about it because she’s the Leader of the Free World and a woman
Republicans are using all the same shitty tactics, resources and candidates
RU does some shitty hacking and are rightly pegged as a threat
Obama is in a unique position now since his legacy is being upheld and celebrated
HRC continues to work harder, stabilizing the world in some ways while being subjected horrible stuff from the GOP and RU.
Women and Dems then become mobilized for a blue wave to support her and democracy rather than resist the regime that stole it from her and us.Could’ve happened that way too! :)
That sounds appealing, but we know from history that the party holding the White House is at a disadvantage in midterm elections. If Clinton was President, the mainstream media would’ve blown the report that she kept an accused sexual harasser on her campaign staff into a major scandal, and several congressional committees would already be investigating it.
re: #173 JordanRules
Imagine this…
HRC becomes President and they do try to take her down on some blatant RU assisted BS
Weinstein happens, all those dominoes continue to fall
HRC is in a singularly powerful position to speak out about it because she’s the Leader of the Free World and a woman
Republicans are using all the same shitty tactics, resources and candidates
RU does some shitty hacking and are rightly pegged as a threat
Obama is in a unique position now since his legacy is being upheld and celebrated
HRC continues to work harder, stabilizing the world in some ways while being subjected horrible stuff from the GOP and RU.
Women and Dems then become mobilized for a blue wave to support her and democracy rather than resist the regime that stole it from her and us.Could’ve happened that way too! :)
There’s only one flaw in your rather awesome version of the future: You left out Bernie.
re: #155 jeffreyw
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Whoa…the yellows are really evident today. Nice color. Must be a clear morning and a big bright sun.
re: #182 lawhawk
They serve. They do honorable work. The GOP would give them all the boot because they’re not white and European. It’s nativism and xenophobia and flat out racism. Trump’s immigration policy was drafted with white supremacists and bigots in mind, and they’re the strongest supporters of this.
They want to slow immigration to the lowest levels in nearly 100 years - and it’s no accident. It’s slamming the door on legal immigration shut. Both in total numbers and on percentage basis, the GOP is looking to eliminate immigration, especially when those immigrants are coming from non European nations, because how dare someone come to the US looking for a better life.
If I could figure out a merit based way of giving citizenship, I know which group I’d be giving it to, and it’s got nothing to do with place of birth. I’m not going to invent a merit based way of giving out citizenship because it would just be corrupted.
re: #183 Big Beautiful Door
I wanted to paint with a nice rosey color today for my alternate timeline, but the point was we only have speculation.
What did happen reminds us how fragile shit is and how much the unexpected can snowball.
What was that number that Putin stood to lose if she became POTUS? Might have been in the trillions. Anything could have happened.
re: #186 Belafon
Instead, we get a quota based system that reeks of racism and bigotry.
The same arguments made by GOPers about how we shouldn’t let Muslims in or people from certain countries because they’re a terrorist threat are lifted virtually word for word from the very same arguments made against allowing Jews fleeing the Holocaust and Nazi Germany in the 1930s and 1940s to enter the US.
It’s not a coincidence.
re: #166 Belafon
Well, that kind of blows a hole in Nunes’ memo.
I made a comment months ago, just after Carter Page did that whack interview with Chris Hayes, that I had a feeling things could turn out to where he was the guy that brings Trump down. Something about him…
re: #160 Belafon
A person familiar with the lawmaker’s plans said that Mr. Gowdy had turned down an offer by the Trump administration to nominate him for a judgeship on the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit and that he planned to enter private practice in South Carolina instead.
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Well, that adds to the intrigue…. if only because it seemed like it was a too cute by half coincidence of him stepping down and the seat being there for the taking.
That he isn’t going for the judicial nomination when the GOP controls the process suggests that there’s more skeletons in his closet he doesn’t want revealed.
It also suggests that he’s not nearly as skilled as a jurist as he makes himself out to be.
re: #191 lawhawk
Well, that adds to the intrigue…. if only because it seemed like it was a too cute by half coincidence of him stepping down and the seat being there for the taking.
That he isn’t going for the judicial nomination when the GOP controls the process suggests that there’s more skeletons in his closet he doesn’t want revealed.
It also suggests that he’s not nearly as skilled as a jurist as he makes himself out to be.
I thought it was a seat on the South Carolina Supreme Court that became available not the Court of Appeals.
re: #191 lawhawk
Well, that adds to the intrigue…. if only because it seemed like it was a too cute by half coincidence of him stepping down and the seat being there for the taking.
That he isn’t going for the judicial nomination when the GOP controls the process suggests that there’s more skeletons in his closet he doesn’t want revealed.
It also suggests that he’s not nearly as skilled as a jurist as he makes himself out to be.
Is it okay to not believe any of it and then wait some time to see what really happens with Gowdy? There is just so much to not trust about Republicans in the time of Trump.
We all thought Issa was done, and then he seems to be running in a different district.
I don’t trust any of them about anything. Snakes! We are dealing with snakes.
re: #190 JordanRules
It felt nice to forget him!
I know, but considering that he tried to run against Obama in 2012, he’d do it during 2020, and you can imagine how much chaos that would have caused.
Now, I was an enthusiastic Clinton supporter. In that reality, I would be fighting my butt off, trying to get people to vote, and warning them of what could be coming if they don’t vote, and pulling my hair out at the Bernie supporters working with the Russians to subvert Democrats chances. But, in this reality, having to deal with what we have, I am encouraged by people finally waking up. Now, if we could only figure out a way to make the Democratic party function in such a way that it encourages people to remain vigilant.
re: #184 Belafon
There’s only one flaw in your rather awesome version of the future: You left out Bernie.
Bernie left the party open to some weapons-grade ratfucking. I really wonder how many Berniebro “supporters” were actuall trolls and/or shills paid to indirectly attack HRC and weakening the Democratic party by supporting an ultimately unelectable candidate.
On yesterday’s Monmouth 47 45 gasp! 2 points poll
Responding were 32% Democrats, 29% Republicans, and 39% independent
Gee I wonder if that means anything?
Back later
re: #191 lawhawk
Well, that adds to the intrigue…. if only because it seemed like it was a too cute by half coincidence of him stepping down and the seat being there for the taking.
That he isn’t going for the judicial nomination when the GOP controls the process suggests that there’s more skeletons in his closet he doesn’t want revealed.
It also suggests that he’s not nearly as skilled as a jurist as he makes himself out to be.
It could just be that he wants to make a lot more money than a judge’s salary.
re: #189 ObserverArt
I made a comment months ago, just after Carter Page did that whack interview with Chris Hayes, that I had a feeling things could turn out to where he was the guy that brings Trump down. Something about him…
I still think he was doing all that crazy shit to fuck shit up.
Still can’t figure out exactly how, though. Gotta be some angle to all how he was behaving, and if he’s actually a Russian asset he wouldn’t be working to bring Trump down. Not intentionally, anyway.
re: #194 Belafon
I know, but considering that he tried to run against Obama in 2012, he’d do it during 2020, and you can imagine how much chaos that would have caused.
Now, I was an enthusiastic Clinton supporter. In that reality, I would be fighting my butt off, trying to get people to vote, and warning them of what could be coming if they don’t vote, and pulling my hair out at the Bernie supporters working with the Russians to subvert Democrats chances. But, in this reality, having to deal with what we have, I am encouraged by people finally waking up. Now, if we could only figure out a way to make the Democratic party function in such a way that it encourages people to remain vigilant.
I wonder about that too. I’m hoping Bernie crashes early this time so there’s no need for conspiracy theories but we have to acknowledge he does have legitimate support.
re: #198 makeitstop
I still think he was doing all that crazy shit to fuck shit up.
Still can’t figure out exactly how, though. Gotta be some angle to all how he was behaving, and if he’s actually a Russian asset he wouldn’t be working to bring Trump down. Not intentionally, anyway.
Could be. For sure he is the strangest character in all of this. The act could be a cover in that everyone may think no way this flake has anything to do with anything legit and heavy.
re: #198 makeitstop
He could just be a weird dude. Rachel kept mentioning how the Russians were continually amazed by his idiocy.
re: #197 Big Beautiful Door
It could just be that he wants to make a lot more money than a judge’s salary.
Lobbying, FNC job, etc all pay more than a judgeship and with less scrutiny too.
re: #202 HappyWarrior
Lobbying, FNC job, etc all pay more than a judgeship and with less scrutiny too.
Exactly, there are so many lucrative opportunities for a guy like Gowdy it would be strange for him to accept an appointment to a federal circuit court.
Please mouse over this pic and tell me if my caption is an accurate description for the vision impaired.
I don’t know who did this, but it’s wrong. Funny, but wrong. And it doesn’t flatter @PressSec so please don’t RT. pic.twitter.com/bqiEXotRmh
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) February 1, 2018
re: #171 Belafon
I occasionally just ask people “Do you like to be conned?” and leave it at that. I don’t care at that point about the answer, but it’s my last word in.
I ask them, “Why do you like to be lied to?”
re: #187 JordanRules
I wanted to paint with a nice rosey color today for my alternate timeline, but the point was we only have speculation.
What did happen reminds us how fragile shit is and how much the unexpected can snowball.
What was that number that Putin stood to lose if she became POTUS? Might have been in the trillions. Anything could have happened.
(Bernie could have been run over by a bus while traveling to HRC’s inauguration. Or accepted a Cabinet office in her administration. Isn’t this fun?)
“All contrary to fact conditions are true because their premise is false.”
JR’s is as good as any, and much more pleasant — and it’s equally silly to argue about any of them.
re: #204 darthstar
Please mouse over this pic and tell me if my caption is an accurate description for the vision impaired.
I don’t know who did this, but it’s wrong. Funny, but wrong. And it doesn’t flatter @PressSec so please don’t RT. pic.twitter.com/bqiEXotRmh
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) February 1, 2018
Well it could go a long way in explaining why she is the she is. https://t.co/Z0fa2rWIPz
— Bubblehead II Wants Twiter to ban Nazis now! (@BubbleheadII) February 1, 2018
re: #195 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Bernie left the party open to some weapons-grade ratfucking. I really wonder how many Berniebro “supporters” were actuall trolls and/or shills paid to indirectly attack HRC and weakening the Democratic party by supporting an ultimately unelectable candidate.
I would say moreso than not.
re: #206 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.
(Bernie could have been run over by a bus while traveling to HRC’s inauguration. Or accepted a Cabinet office in her administration. Isn’t this fun?)
“All contrary to fact conditions are true because their premise is false.”
JR’s is as good as any, and much more pleasant — and it’s equally silly to argue about any of them.
True enough. I’ve been wondering in frustration why InTouch Magazine didn’t run its Stormy Daniels interview back in 2016, WHEN IT MIGHT HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE, GODDAMMIT! But water under the bridge, spilt milk, etc.
re: #200 ObserverArt
Could be. For sure he is the strangest character in all of this. The act could be a cover in that everyone may think no way this flake has anything to do with anything legit and heavy.
re: #201 JordanRules
He could just be a weird dude. Rachel kept mentioning how the Russians were continually amazed by his idiocy.
Both good points. I still can’t shake the feeling that he’s too crazy by half, though.
So, a year into Trumpworld - and ongoing scandals that threaten the very rule of law - the focus is on now private citizen @HillaryClinton.
Priorities.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) February 1, 2018
This is fucking obstruction of justice. Full stop. There is no other term that can describe this.
Trump told associates last night Nunes memo will DISCREDIT Mueller probe and shows bias in FBI; WH aides supporting his stance. Trump, meantime, is angry about FBI statement yesterday. per @Kevinliptakcnn @SaraMurray @kaitlancollins https://t.co/Q2ERSEg8Ai
— Manu Raju (@mkraju) February 1, 2018
.@Judgenap: If FISA memo was changed in any way to accommodate political concerns, that is misleading - innocent people will suffer pic.twitter.com/CyFy6Qq1pU
— FOX & friends (@foxandfriends) February 1, 2018
When Fox starts questioning something they’ve been actively pushing, you know shit’s going sideways for the GOP. https://t.co/3fogyN93Cq
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) February 1, 2018
re: #213 darthstar
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re: #213 darthstar
“Therefore it wasn’t modified for political reasons.”
I thought this was Joe Walsh when I replied. Wrote another reply under this saying the same to Joan…WTF?
Hope’s parents aren’t responsible for her conspiring with Trump to obstruct justice. They are, probably, extremely disappointed and are allowed their privacy.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) February 1, 2018
re: #215 Belafon
“Therefore it wasn’t modified for political reasons.”
I don’t watch Fox clips. But their tweet led me to believe even they questioned the motivation.
Zimbabwe is looking for the money the Mugabe cronies stashed away,
You know, if it wasn’t for the nuclear weapons, the US is a lot closer to Zimbabwe right now, than any other western country.
re: #218 Lupin
Zimbabwe is looking for the money the Mugabe cronies stashed away,
You know, if it wasn’t for the nuclear weapons, the US is a lot closer to Zimbabwe right now, than any other western country.
Did any princes there send money to the US? :)
“Highest number in history” LOL
Thank you for all of the nice compliments and reviews on the State of the Union speech. 45.6 million people watched, the highest number in history. @FoxNews beat every other Network, for the first time ever, with 11.7 million people tuning in. Delivered from the heart!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 1, 2018
re: #219 Belafon
Did any princes there send money to the US? :)
My guess would be London, piggy bank of the crooks and tyrants, and/or the usual offshore suspects.
Very good quote to pull.
Let America be the dream the dreamers dreamed—
Let it be that great strong land of love
Where never kings connive nor tyrants scheme
That any man be crushed by one above.
Poet Langston Hughes was born #onthisday in 1902. pic.twitter.com/pweERDgKNE— Joe Madison (@MadisonSiriusXM) February 1, 2018
Surprising nobody.
Percentage by which the first FBI crime report under Donald Trump contained fewer data tables than the previous year’s : 58
Index: https://t.co/tZtDoerUsm— Harper’s Magazine (@Harpers) February 1, 2018
Co-sign.
I would so love a day where no one on the left rolls out the self-defeating and undermining things like:
“It doesn’t matter. Repubs are just gonna ______.”
“None of this gonna change ______.”
“We’re already sunk because of ______.”
So damn tiring. So damn unhelpful.— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) February 1, 2018
re: #220 The Vicious Babushka
In other words - without saying Trump lied, @FoxNewsResearch is saying Trump lied.
Just use your words. Trump lied about the size of the audience.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) February 1, 2018
Is it just me or does Maggie sound like she’s casting doubt on Corallo?
New: Mark Corallo, former Trump legal team spox, is planning on telling Mueller about a previously undisclosed conference call which led him to believe that Hope Hicks was going to obstruct justice @maggieNYT @mattapuzzo @MarkMazzettiNYT @Jo_Becker report. https://t.co/X19dTOBq70 pic.twitter.com/1hBwW5HftE
— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) February 1, 2018
Worth bearing in mind that Mueller has the text exchanges between Hope Hicks and Don Jr and has since last summer. It will be Corallo’s word versus those exchanges https://t.co/HSi871Lngd
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) February 1, 2018
We had another very good unemployment benefits claim report, with initial claims falling to 230k. Initial unemployment claims have been running under 300k per week for nearly three years now, a streak we haven’t seen since 1970 when the labor force was vastly smaller. This means that US employees continue to enjoy the greatest level of job security since at least before the Great Depression. Thanks Obama!
Stop me if you’ve heard this one before—we’re one week away from another government shutdown https://t.co/oAn4VV9YoW
— Joan McCarter (@joanmccarter) February 1, 2018
https://t.co/O7J5WJX3yV pic.twitter.com/F5VqOAYbuE
— Charles GetCoveredBa (@charles_gaba) February 1, 2018
re: #228 darthstar
Is it just me or does Maggie sound like she’s casting doubt on Corallo?
She might be trying, but if she is, it’s not working. Because, if Mueller already has the messages, then Corallo is either going to perjure himself because he’d be lying, he’s going to confirm what Mueller already knows, or he’s going to give Mueller new information. None of those help Jr or Hicks.
re: #230 darthstar
What would the Party of Lincoln, which competently ran the government for most of a half century from Abraham Lincoln until Woodrow Wilson, make of the current crop of incompetent, corrupt neo-confederates who call themselves Republicans now?
re: #228 darthstar
Is it just me or does Maggie sound like she’s casting doubt on Corallo?
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Of course she is. She’s got a book deal to honor, and honor it she will.
Too bad Wolff got all the juicy bits.
They lost me at ‘Meet the bag’…who says that unless they’re talking about a certain press secretary?
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) February 1, 2018
re: #233 makeitstop
Of course she is. She’s got a book deal to honor, and honor it she will.
Too bad Wolff got all the juicy bits.
Yes, but did he? This WH is like a poorly wrapped raw roast in the refrigerator. Shit’s seeping out from every angle.
re: #235 darthstar
Yes, but did he? This WH is like a poorly wrapped raw roast in the refrigerator. Shit’s seeping out from every angle.
That’s as may be, definitely. But Maggie won’t write it.
Wolff’s book was a ‘searing expose.’ I expect Maggie’s to be a ‘sycophantic hagiography.’
re: #236 makeitstop
And just flat out corny, flowery writing. Not impressed with her style, even at Politico.
sniff, sniff…I smell snark. Just like mom used to make.
Thank you for all of the nice compliments and reviews on the State of the Union speech. 45.6 million people watched, the highest number in history. @FoxNews beat every other Network, for the first time ever, with 11.7 million people tuning in. Delivered from the heart!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 1, 2018
People are misreading this as a claim that the ratings are the highest. Wrong! He’s saying that, in history, mathematicians have never identified a number higher than 45.6 million. https://t.co/m7vYr7ncdX
— Philip Bump (@pbump) February 1, 2018
re: #185 ObserverArt
Thanks for the comment. When that photo was taken it was, indeed, a bright and sunny morning. Please be advised that the photos accompanying my morning greeting are usually not taken on the day they are posted here. The feeder photos are reviewed only after several days have gone by. We save some of the photos and erase the rest. I have no firm criteria for choosing but color, action, species type, and number of individuals are among them.
re: #96 Single-handed sailor
Strange. I can buy this knife online in California. Flick the quillon with your finger and it opens as fast and easy as any switchblade.
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Heh, I actually own this knife in drop point straight edge not serrated tanto though.
What’s underneath Trump’s hair? (in privacy tags bc NSFW)
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A few Republicans seem to be getting cold feet here…
Senator Urges Fellow Republicans to Heed Warnings on Releasing Secret Memo via @NYTimes https://t.co/Zxzs4iIs0H
— Adam Goldman (@adamgoldmanNYT) February 1, 2018
Heading to beautiful West Virginia to be with great members of the Republican Party. Will be planning Infrastructure and discussing Immigration and DACA, not easy when we have no support from the Democrats. NOT ONE DEM VOTED FOR OUR TAX CUT BILL! Need more Republicans in ‘18.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 1, 2018
infrastructure…like, maybe, trains?
I feel for Hope Hicks. She’s not much older than my (beloved) daughter (who has better judgment than me). Hope’s parents, I believe, are Democrats. Can she find an exit with integrity?
— Joan Walsh (@joanwalsh) February 1, 2018
She’s barely reached the age of treason https://t.co/zHOpkjuCCf
— J.M. Berger (@intelwire) February 1, 2018
Best reply to my very unpopular Hope Hicks tweets…. https://t.co/CXBpb7EZuk
— Joan Walsh (@joanwalsh) February 1, 2018
re: #111 goddamnedfrank
It’s utterly insane. It’s also nowhere near the absolute high end in terms of price. This is just the most recently added page at Arizona Custom Knives.
This is the most expensive pocket knife I’ve ever seen.
re: #241 The Vicious Babushka
What’s underneath Trump’s hair? (in privacy tags bc NSFW)
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So let’s say at the end of the Mueller investigation Jared gets Indicted, Hope Hicks gets indicted, Trump Jr. gets indicted, Bannon cuts a plea deal and clear evidence comes out that Donald Trump obstructed justice on a number of occasions in addition to other serious crimes.
If a sitting President can’t be indicted does it not still fall to the utterly spineless GOP to act on removing Trump?
LOL
GOP Rep Comer telling CNN fine for Trump to ask if Deputy Attorney General was on his team, since president has right to stop appointees from “disrupting” his tenure: “If the president fired Rosenstein, I’d support that. People in Kentucky are disappointed in Rosenstein.”
— John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) February 1, 2018
lol “People in Kentucky are disappointed in Rosenstein” … yeah, no doubt. https://t.co/TTGvGIWslC
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) February 1, 2018
re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth
LOL
Another Republican who must have been silent when he swore to protect the constitution.
re: #247 Eclectic Cyborg
So let’s say at the end of the Mueller investigation Jared gets Indicted, Hope Hicks gets indicted, Trump Jr. gets indicted, Bannon cuts a plea deal and clear evidence comes out that Donald Trump obstructed justice on a number of occasions in addition to other serious crimes.
If a sitting President can’t be indicted does it not still fall to the utterly spineless GOP to act on removing Trump?
It falls on them to come up with enough spurious and contrived “facts” to discredit the investigation and spin it as a partisan Deep State witch hunt
re: #242 makeitstop
A few Republicans seem to be getting cold feet here…
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This is just another battle between Senate Republicans and their Crazy Cousins in the House. There are splits in the House too, but nothing more evident than the gap between House and Senate.
I don’t think the Freedom Caucus idiots are capable of having cold feet. That would mean they were warm-blooded. Those guys are really going to be the wrecking balls that destroy the Republican party.
re: #250 Belafon
Another Republican who must have been silent when he swore to protect the constitution.
Let’s remember that (if memory serves) that a majority of Republicans voted against impeaching Nixon.
And let’s not even mention the attacks against FDR.
So…hype hype hype hype hype….nah, not today.
Administration officials tell me #GOPMemo will be sent back to House Intelligence Committee on Friday with redactions from the #WH based on internal consultations w @FBI & other agencies. WH will not “release” memo but send it back to committee for it to release on its timetable
— Major Garrett (@MajorCBS) February 1, 2018
They may yet back down.
re: #254 makeitstop
So…hype hype hype hype hype….nah, not today.
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I thought all the GOP’ers were in West Virginia eating delicious and non-fattening coal at their retreat? They’re coming back to fix the fake memo?
re: #255 bill d. (b.d.)
I thought all the GOP’ers were in West Virginia eating delicious and non-fattening coal at their retreat? They’re coming back to fix the fake memo?
It’s going back to them tomorrow.
Those kittens aren’t going to eat themselves, y’know.
Going up here… What about #MAGA?
Why are gas prices going up in the @realDonaldTrump administration? That’s not #MAGA #RESIST
— 🦈🦈Argyle Von Bargle 🦈🦈 (@DaveoutofAustin) February 1, 2018
re: #220 The Vicious Babushka
“Highest number in history” LOL
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#SOTU TV Viewers:
2018: 45.6M
2017: 47.7M*
2016: 31.3M
2015: 31.7M
2014: 33.3M
2013: 33.5M
2012: 37.8M
2011: 42.8M
2010: 48.0M
2009: 52.4M*
2008: 37.5M
2007: 45.5M
2006: 41.7M
2005: 38.4M
2004: 43.4M
2003: 62.1M
1993: 66.9M* (largest TV audience)
*Not an official SOTU pic.twitter.com/OZlUHmGQp4— Fox News Research (@FoxNewsResearch) February 1, 2018
Fox News corrects Trump’s claim that he had record SOTU viewers. An unexpected plot twist. https://t.co/5KL50K7vVn
— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) February 1, 2018
Trump has read the Nunes memo, per @kaitlancollins
— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) February 1, 2018
They probably redacted all the words he didn’t understand.
re: #259 makeitstop
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They probably redacted all the words he didn’t understand.
That would make for a pretty short memo.
re: #259 makeitstop
So, everything but “Nunes” and “memo”?
‘Research consulting.’ With Russians. Uh-huh.
Trump’s reelection campaign paid private investigators more than $5,000 in December to conduct “research consulting,” according to a new financial filing. https://t.co/CCk3Xvyqfw via @lachlan
— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) February 1, 2018
I bet you the GOP will backpedal and refuse to release the damned thing.
re: #258 Stanley Sea
If/when Fox News turns on Trump, it’s going to be entertaining as fuck all.
re: #254 makeitstop
So…hype hype hype hype hype….nah, not today.
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I hope it gets to the point where the crazies all in for Trump get pissed off because it isn’t coming out fast enough and they start calling Trump a chicken, cuck, etc.
This really is Stupid Watergate. I mean, how do you even begin to think you’re not going to get caught on something like this:
The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee made “material changes” to a secret memo he shared with lawmakers before sending it to the president to approve for final release, the top Democrat on the committee said Wednesday night.
Adam Schiff (Calif.), the committee’s ranking Democrat, called on Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) to withdraw the version of the classified memo he sent to the White House on Monday, arguing that a prior vote in favor of releasing the memo was invalidated by Nunes’ changes.
Nunes is going to end up being the lynchpin of this whole nightmare. Fucking stupid man that he is.
re: #257 Dave In Austin
Going up here… What about #MAGA?
Why are gas prices going up in the @realDonaldTrump administration? That’s not #MAGA #RESIST
— 🦈🦈Argyle Von Bargle 🦈🦈 (@DaveoutofAustin) February 1, 2018
Seems like it was only yesterday that this would have been damn near a treasonous offense to the Right
Chairman Bill Shuster says he brought up raising the gas tax at a Republican retreat session. Reaction was “mixed,” he said.
— Jonathan Allen (@jonallendc) February 1, 2018
re: #266 KGxvi
This really is Stupid Watergate. I mean, how do you even begin to think you’re not going to get caught on something like this:
Nunes is going to end up being the lynchpin of this whole nightmare. Fucking stupid man that he is.
Does he have the power to remove Schiff from the Committee?
re: #267 FormerDirtDart
dammit, Bill, did you think we were serious about that shit? That stuff only matters when a Democrat’s president. We all own stock in oil companies, hell, Gary over there owns like eight gas stations, nobody here is actually against higher gas prices, we just have to say that we are, occasionally, but not when it means bad press for our side
re: #268 Eclectic Cyborg
Does he have the power to remove Schiff from the Committee?
I don’t think so, but I don’t have a lot of knowledge about how committee assignments work, and if there are special rules for the intelligence committee.
re: #266 KGxvi
This really is Stupid Watergate. I mean, how do you even begin to think you’re not going to get caught on something like this:
Nunes is going to end up being the lynchpin of this whole nightmare. Fucking stupid man that he is.
At least it is becoming clearer why Trumpbots have been bitching about the “dossier”—-apparently the Nunes memo will allege that the Clinton campaign funded the dossier and pitched to the Obama Administration’s FBI which used that information to get the OK to spy on people from the Trump campaign. They’re alleging of course that the whole Russia investigation was illegitimate at best, but manipulated by Obama/Clinton at worst. This is why the MAGAbots are making such a hullabaloo about it—all very Corrupt Deep State, blah blah blah.
All nonsense, considering Obama’s FBI came out a week before the election with the infamous letter “reopening” the Hillary email investigation. But there you have it.
re: #225 lawhawk
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appx us population 1993: 260m, 66.9/260 = about 25.7% of the population
appx us population 2018: 326m, 45.6/326 = about 13.9% of the population
sad
SOTFU
re: #271 Sir John Barron
They made those claims before the memo and would still make them without it. Hell, given the level of coordination between the alt-right players and the WH, you could have a ‘chicken or egg’ debate here.
re: #225 lawhawk
Fake news! Eleventy-trillion watched Trump MAGA speech!!!
re: #266 KGxvi
This really is Stupid Watergate. I mean, how do you even begin to think you’re not going to get caught on something like this:
Nunes is going to end up being the lynchpin of this whole nightmare. Fucking stupid man that he is.
He could very well be setting himself up for obstruction charges. The man’s a fucking idiot, but he’s definitely either got something on somebody, or he’s compromised up to his fucking chin.
Nunes may do more harm to Rs and implicate both WH and himself Tribe says, “ release of the memo despite the warning of Wray and the actions of Nunes in concocting phony smear of Rosenstein seem to parts of an ongoing conspiracy to obstruct justice.”
https://t.co/rCut6PItVY— Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) February 1, 2018
re: #271 Sir John Barron
At least it is becoming clearer why Trumpbots have been bitching about the “dossier”—-apparently the Nunes memo will allege that the Clinton campaign funded the dossier and pitched to the Obama Administration’s FBI which used that information to get the OK to spy on people from the Trump campaign. They’re alleging of course that the whole Russia investigation was illegitimate at best, but manipulated by Obama/Clinton at worst. This is why the MAGAbots are making such a hullabaloo about it—all very Corrupt Deep State, blah blah blah.
All nonsense, considering Obama’s FBI came out a week before the election with the infamous letter “reopening” the Hillary email investigation. But there you have it.
Not only that, the FBI were investigating Carter Page before anyone had heard of the dossier. Page was, apparently, the target of Russian spies trying to cultivate American assets.
Also, it’s funny, because I’m old enough to remember when “conservatives” defended the FBI and were suspicious of Russia.
re: #268 Eclectic Cyborg
Does he have the power to remove Schiff from the Committee?
I don’t think he can. I think the committees are made up by the party. If Republicans are in control they get a majority of committee members. The Democrats have less. I think the committee members then pick their leaders, so the Republicans took Nunes and Dems Schiff. I would think only the Democrats could remove Schiff.
However, if there is a legal or ethical problem House Speaker Ryan might be able to force a member off a committee or disband it if need be. The Speaker of the House oversees all of the goings on in the House.
re: #273 JordanRules
They made those claims before the memo and would still make them without it. Hell, given the level of coordination between the alt-right players and the WH, you could have a ‘chicken or egg’ debate here.
But the memo (I’m guessing) is really a step beyond where they’ve gone before, putting their conspiracy theories on the record, as it were, which could and likely will blow up in their faces. Although of course I realize that in some ways they’re just trying to muddy the waters for their deluded base.
re: #276 KGxvi
Also, it’s funny, because I’m old enough to remember when “conservatives” defended the FBI and were suspicious of Russia.
That was the Soviets. Now Russia is governed by an autocratic ruler who maintains a theocratic state. Just the sort of thing they would like to see, the only difference being that they want Protestant Fundamentalist theocracy instead of Russian Orthodox.
re: #278 Sir John Barron
But the memo (I’m guessing) is really a step beyond where they’ve gone before, putting their conspiracy theories on the record, as it were, which could and likely will blow up in their faces. Although of course I realize that in some ways they’re just trying to muddy the waters for their deluded base.
But I think releasing the memo is a pretty desperate move that will at best for them only “muddy” the waters. And it won’t likely change the course of Mueller’s investigation, unless the memo leads to other, personnel, changes (and that may be and likely is it’s primary objective).
re: #278 Sir John Barron
Right. Nunes using his position to formalize the garbage as it were.
re: #276 KGxvi
Not only that, the FBI were investigating Carter Page before anyone had heard of the dossier. Page was, apparently, the target of Russian spies trying to cultivate American assets.
Also, it’s funny, because I’m old enough to remember when “conservatives” defended the FBI and were suspicious of Russia.
And it invites an examination of the FISA warrant, and that won’t go well for Nunes and Trump. It will make them look like idiots at best. Again, really desperate move it seems to me.
re: #271 Sir John Barron
At least it is becoming clearer why Trumpbots have been bitching about the “dossier”—-apparently the Nunes memo will allege that the Clinton campaign funded the dossier and pitched to the Obama Administration’s FBI which used that information to get the OK to spy on people from the Trump campaign. They’re alleging of course that the whole Russia investigation was illegitimate at best, but manipulated by Obama/Clinton at worst. This is why the MAGAbots are making such a hullabaloo about it—all very Corrupt Deep State, blah blah blah.
All nonsense, considering Obama’s FBI came out a week before the election with the infamous letter “reopening” the Hillary email investigation. But there you have it.
And remember, the FBI claims the investigation actually started with Papadopoulos in the bar with the Aussie diplomat.
That all seems to have been forgotten already with the Nunes memo. And that has had me confused about all of this memo stuff, since it seems the claims in the memo come after the fact the investigation was already rolling.
re: #245 danarchy
This is the most expensive pocket knife I’ve ever seen.
Some interesting knife stuff last night. I mostly buy either CRKT for short or folding blades and Windlass Steelcraft for my long blades (US 1860 saber, etc). Inexpensive but well made and durable.
I got this knife most recently: crkt.com on close out so it was pennies on the dollar :)
That WilliamHenry is quite the piece. Beautiful work even though that’s not to my taste. Not quite as bad as some of the gold inlayed shotguns I’ve seen of late, but still too gaudy for my preferences in a tool.
re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth
LOL
lol “People in Kentucky are disappointed in Rosenstein” … yeah, no doubt
these reps and senators do not seem to want to understand they work for their district, their state and the country as a whole
if you only want to work for your state, be a state rep
if you only want to work locally, join the city council, run for mayor
re: #254 makeitstop
So…hype hype hype hype hype….nah, not today.
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instead of releasing it, they will refer to it and talk around it, and it will attain mythic (and mystical) properties
re: #286 dangerman
instead of releasing it, they will refer to it and talk around it, and it will attain mythic (and mystical) properties
It is about establishing narrative talking points. The ultimate goal being to undermine the FBI investigation before it presents its findings.
re: #259 makeitstop
Trump has read the Nunes memo
They probably redacted all the words he didn’t understand.
amazing that it has to be announced, without irony, that trump read something
re: #269 KGxvi
dammit, Bill, did you think we were serious about that shit? That stuff only matters when a Democrat’s president. We all own stock in oil companies, hell, Gary over there owns like eight gas stations, nobody here is actually against higher gas prices, we just have to say that we are, occasionally, but not when it means bad press for our side
…you know, like deficits
re: #289 dangerman
…you know, like deficits
I recall back when there was actually a budget surplus under Clinton and Rush Limbaugh was explaining that it is immoral for the government to run a surplus because it means they are taking more money from us than they need to operate.
re: #286 dangerman
instead of releasing it, they will refer to it and talk around it, and it will attain mythic (and mystical) properties
That’s what I was saying yesterday - the Trump cultists will accept it as the gospel truth, whether or not they release it. Son of Benghazi.
All the bluster about releasing it is starting to look like dopey gamesmanship. They’re really not very good at this.
What’s notably absent from Clinton’s 1,500-word Facebook apologia? The words “I’m sorry,” “I apologize,” “I was wrong,” “I made a mistake,” “I did an oopsie-doopsie,” or “my bad, fam.” https://t.co/yY5zbXka0o
— eve peyser (@evepeyser) February 1, 2018
oh good, Day Six of media coverage on this story. https://t.co/7dZQ9KqeQ5
— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) February 1, 2018
re: #254 makeitstop
So…hype hype hype hype hype….nah, not today.
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They may yet back down.
WH folks know that if this is released, THEY will be on the hook for violations. Congress isn’t but WH staffers are not protected.
re: #282 Sir John Barron
And it invites an examination of the FISA warrant, and that won’t go well for Nunes and Trump. It will make them look like idiots at best. Again, really desperate move it seems to me.
everyone watches tv where a “warrant” is like a single piece of paper waved at the guy answering the door
im guessing (i have no idea) a fisa “warrant” is probably a file full of papers and backup documentation - 20, 30, 50 pages or more?
the nunes memo is what, 4 pages?
lots of relevant information has to have been omitted (on purpose or otherwise)
re: #266 KGxvi
This really is Stupid Watergate. I mean, how do you even begin to think you’re not going to get caught on something like this:
Nunes is going to end up being the lynchpin of this whole nightmare. Fucking stupid man that he is.
Someone said this the other day and I agree. Nunes is petrified something about *him* is going to come out. Nobody would protect trump this much. There is something there that scares the shit out of Nunes. And it’s personal.
Justice Dept. Office to Make Legal Aid More Accessible Is Quietly Closed https://t.co/NKZ4rqCgga
— Shaila Dewan (@shailadewan) February 1, 2018
re: #291 makeitstop
That’s what I was saying yesterday - the Trump cultists will accept it as the gospel truth, whether or not they release it. Son of Benghazi.
All the bluster about releasing it is starting to look like dopey gamesmanship. They’re really not very good at this.
They’ve been accepting it as gospel truth the moment it was first mentioned, all the while screaming obscenities at anyone who criticizes it because the critics haven’t seen it, etc. Typical wingnut BS, but much more harmful.
re: #211 lawhawk
Hillary is paying more of a price for this story, despite being excessively mischaracterized in as bad a way as it possibly could, than any GOPer is for their actual harrassment sins, which are actually far worse than they look on the surface once you scratch at it. Especially fucking Donald fucking Trump.
I love our political climate, don’t you?
re: #236 makeitstop
Wolff’s book was a ‘searing expose.’ I expect Maggie’s to be a ‘sycophantic hagiography.’
Repetitively redundant sack licking…
re: #296 MsJ
Yup, he’s trying to make his needs align with the WH’s. And they probably easily align, but there is something else there besides loyalty.
re: #293 MsJ
WH folks know that if this is released, THEY will be on the hook for violations. Congress isn’t but WH staffers are not protected.
On the hook being able to be charged with mishandling classified information.
While the world continues to burn, I’m enjoying Fargo (Sn 3)
re: #290 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I recall back when there was actually a budget surplus under Clinton and Rush Limbaugh was explaining that it is immoral for the government to run a surplus because it means they are taking more money from us than they need to operate.
as do i
the concept that the there might be an unexpected, unplanned event in the future (hurricane, 9/11) is just beyond them.
let alone planned saving up for the future - ie infrastructure
not to mention that a budget surplus isnt money sitting in a bank, it can reduce the natl debt
no. congress never looks ahead. that’s why they are always in emergency funding mode
re: #297 FormerDirtDart
Pretty much it’s down to this: If the Black Guy Did It, they will destroy it. Mostly because, hurrr,durrr, it will make those snowflake libturds cry. Never mind burning down the best parts of what makes America Awesome or shitting on whatever they don’t turn to ash. Spite. Greed. Hate. Anger. That’s all they’ve got.
Unfortunately, those things cause an awful lot of suffering and misery. That’s why I have a bit of a hard time with the concept of “playing nice”.
I’d be yelling in frustration right now, but it would scare my dogs
New report: American students aren’t learning the full truth about slavery https://t.co/8dN6jH6WgT via @HuffPostPol
— Rebecca Klein (@rklein90) February 1, 2018
“It’s not simply an event in our history; it’s central to our history.”https://t.co/G91Pje8dx5
— Rebecca Klein (@rklein90) February 1, 2018
re: #293 MsJ
WH folks know that if this is released, THEY will be on the hook for violations. Congress isn’t but WH staffers are not protected.
Not only that - Nunes’ own staff would be liable for releasing classified information.
This motherfucker would put his own people in legal jeopardy in order to obstruct this investigation.
Whatever they’ve got on him, it must be bad. Really, really bad.
re: #299 Citizen K
Hillary is paying more of a price for this story, despite being excessively mischaracterized in as bad a way as it possibly could, than any GOPer is for their actual harrassment sins, which are actually far worse than they look on the surface once you scratch at it. Especially fucking Donald fucking Trump.
I love our political climate, don’t you?
exhibits
1. donald trump’s personal behavior, ongoing
2. steve wynn’s personal behavior, last week
3. hillary clinton, as a “supervisor”, 8? years ago, being held to the “awareness” standards of 2018
BREAKING: Police: 2 students shot inside Los Angeles middle school classroom, female student suspect in custody.
— The Associated Press (@AP) February 1, 2018
Maybe Mexico and Canada are going to pay the other $1.3 trillion…
¯\_(ツ)_/¯— WB Young (@FormerDirtDart) February 1, 2018
re: #272 dangerman
appx us population 1993: 260m, 66.9/260 = about 25.7% of the population
appx us population 2018: 326m, 45.6/326 = about 13.9% of the populationsad
SOTFU
But when you add in all the Russians who watched, maybe Trump did indeed have a record number of viewers.
re: #308 FormerDirtDart
This is not a mistake. This is not an accident. This is not incompetence.
This is the result of the full throated revisionist efforts of the confederate fetishists to peddle the Lost Cause nationwide, and it’s fucking worked.
re: #294 dangerman
everyone watches tv where a “warrant” is like a single piece of paper waved at the guy answering the door
im guessing (i have no idea) a fisa “warrant” is probably a file full of papers and backup documentation - 20, 30, 50 pages or more?
the nunes memo is what, 4 pages?
lots of relevant information has to have been omitted (on purpose or otherwise)
The application for a warrant is long and detailed with lots of supporting documentation. The warrant itself is one page.
re: #313 sagehen
But when you add in all the Russians who watched, maybe Trump did indeed have a record number of viewers.
you may be right
i dont think nielsen’s in that market yet
1.4 million Twitter users engaged with Russian propaganda during election https://t.co/fbHrYILfVA
— Fox News (@FoxNews) February 1, 2018
DonaldJTrumpJr liked this tweet: https://t.co/Q6PyKR2XL1
— Trump Alert (@TrumpsAlert) February 1, 2018
Junior, you’re such a fucking numbskull.
I’m pretty sure I just died in dankness. Can someone reincarnate me in a decade less moronic. I’ll wait. pic.twitter.com/bkh7c7pekJ
— Molly Jong-Fast🦈 (@MollyJongFast) February 1, 2018
The memo has been leaked:
Our Dear Leader, the great and wonderful and sexy, Donald J Trump is da bomb and—> RULES!! He’s the bestest Dear Leader eva! sUCK IT, LibsZZ!~!!! Dear Leader Trump rules, Hillary droolszz!!!
Sincerely,
Cuckmaster Nunes
re: #314 Citizen K
As an addition….this is why I’m scared that our ‘future generations’ will not save us, demographic shifts or no: because the GOP has already won the language war, and now the history war. We’ll have generations of kids who have been told slavery was a total non-factor, and may have been ‘beneficial’, completely disassociated from the horrors of the time. How long until we’ll have actual literal fucking movements to reimplement slavery as a means of addressing the ‘immigrant’ problem, or even just because they truly have seen blacks as literally and genetically inferior because of what they’re fed in school now?
re: #315 sagehen
The application for a warrant is long and detailed with lots of supporting documentation. The warrant itself is one page.
thanks. i learned something new today
in this context it seems to me (ianal) that once again they are morphing the meaning of words. using “warrant” as all encompassing - to mean all of it - the one page, and the app, and all the data. otherwise discussing “the warrant” becomes meaningless, im guessing
A smart aside about the long term danger of our current talent vacuum in gov’t in a very smart conversation between @rtraister @dorianwarren & @dreaflynn about race & class. https://t.co/YWVX5FFvsn pic.twitter.com/S15OTeD3Xk
— Amanda Litman (@amandalitman) February 1, 2018
re: #297 FormerDirtDart
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re: #321 Citizen K
As an addition….this is why I’m scared that our ‘future generations’ will not save us, demographic shifts or no: because the GOP has already won the language war, and now the history war. We’ll have generations of kids who have been told slavery was a total non-factor, and may have been ‘beneficial’, completely disassociated from the horrors of the time. How long until we’ll have actual literal fucking movements to reimplement slavery as a means of addressing the ‘immigrant’ problem, or even just because they truly have seen blacks as literally and genetically inferior because of what they’re fed in school now?
As Rage Against the Machine once said:
He who controls the past now controls the future, who controls the present now controls the past.
re: #325 KGxvi
Pretty sure they were quoting Orwell there.
Ol’ George must be weeping in his grave seeing how his warnings were used as manuals.
Trump says @OrrinHatch told him that he’s the greatest president in American history. Greater than Washington or Lincoln.
— Kate Brannen (@K8brannen) February 1, 2018
Man these folks are ridiculous. LOL
It’s kind of amazing to see all of the Christians who think nothing of going to a yoga class. There are many excellent ways to get in shape that do not involve participating in Hindu worship.
— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) February 1, 2018
I know a Christian family that once did yoga. They all spontaneously combusted & their relatives got charred letters that said “We are in hell now; don’t yoga.” https://t.co/d240w4X5nB
— Kumail Nanjiani (@kumailn) February 1, 2018
re: #328 JordanRules
Man these folks are ridiculous. LOL
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FFS it’s a Yoga class. Grow up snowflake.
re: #296 MsJ
Someone said this the other day and I agree. Nunes is petrified something about *him* is going to come out. Nobody would protect trump this much. There is something there that scares the shit out of Nunes. And it’s personal.
On Morning Joe, Heileman has taken to asking every guest whether they think Nunes is a Russian agent.
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re: #326 Citizen K
Pretty sure they were quoting Orwell there.
Ol’ George must be weeping in his grave seeing how his warnings were used as manuals.
Eh, I’ve not actually read much Orwell (I know, that makes me a terrible person).
re: #325 KGxvi
As Rage Against the Machine once said:
He who controls the past now controls the future, who controls the present now controls the past.
The toxic effects of text book publishers writing to the cost effective least common denominator so that they have the widest distribution for a single book. I would say that this is especially damaging to our country, except Americans have been notorious for knowing nothing about history. Southerners always focused on their treasonous version of the past, but others never paid much attention. What may be more damaging to our future is the elimination of much of modern science from science books to appease creationists.
re: #330 sagehen
On Morning Joe, Heileman has taken to asking every guest whether they think Nunes is a Russian agent.
And what have been some of the responses?
I don’t watch more than the first half-hour if I watch, but I don’t think Joe likes Nunes much either.
re: #329 HappyWarrior
FFS it’s a Yoga class. Grow up snowflake.
It’s a nice reminder, or should be, that there are plenty of religious practices that become secularized. Yoga, is, at it’s core, a religious practice. So are various forms of meditation. Perhaps his fear is that if those things can be secularized, so can certain aspects of Christianity.
And then there’s the whole history of Christianity consuming pagan rituals and claiming them as their own. But that’s another discussion.
re: #321 Citizen K
How long until we’ll have actual literal fucking movements to reimplement slavery as a means of addressing the ‘immigrant’ problem, or even just because they truly have seen blacks as literally and genetically inferior because of what they’re fed in school now?
we already do — privatized prisons.
re: #328 JordanRules
Man these folks are ridiculous. LOL
It’s kind of amazing to see all of the Christians who think nothing of going to a yoga class. There are many excellent ways to get in shape that do not involve participating in Hindu worship.
as a non christian, i’ve been in lots of churches. even during services, masses, etc.
nothing ever happened to me (either way)
funnily, no one could ever tell i was an “outsider”
Gerber Sportsman - Portland, OR
I’ve carried this off and on for about 45 years. It was wicked sharp when I bought it new, now it’s only troubled youth sharp. Stainless blade and brass handle, wooden scales.
re: #326 Citizen K
Pretty sure they were quoting Orwell there.
Ol’ George must be weeping in his grave seeing how his warnings were used as manuals.
Republicans took it as an instruction manual. Everyone else thought it couldn’t happen here.
But, the majority of adults don’t understand what slavery means to this country’s history. Most just think it was a thing in the South that ended in 1865, and that we’re done with it.
re: #337 sagehen
I meant discarding even the pretenses of that and just straight-up reimplementing slavery as the solution. We might as fucking well at this point, from the looks of it.
I think Re: history, schools could benefit their students by having people who have been eyewitnesses to history come in. I remember a D-Day vet and I’ve heard other people talk about Holocaust survivors too. Perhaps have people who were part of the Civil Rights Movement. For me as a former history major, reading first hand accounts always resonated more than second hand academia which is probably why while not the most academic, Rise and Fall worked so well since William Shirer was there.
re: #333 KGxvi
Eh, I’ve not actually read much Orwell (I know, that makes me a terrible person).
no… better you only get your information here and do as we say
re: #337 sagehen
we already do — privatized prisons.
The slavery portion explicitly allowed by the 13th amendment.
re: #341 Belafon
Republicans took it as an instruction manual. Everyone else thought it couldn’t happen here.
But, the majority of adults don’t understand what slavery means to this country’s history. Most just think it was a thing in the South that ended in 1865, and that we’re done with it.
My Texas brother certainly thinks that is true. The ignorance is great in this country, especially for those living in the South,
re: #329 HappyWarrior
FFS it’s a Yoga class. Grow up snowflake.
I’d bet that Matt would be apoplectic if he found the California State Assembly Chaplain is a Jodo Shinshu Buddhist - the Rev. Bob Oshita.
re: #341 Belafon
Republicans took it as an instruction manual. Everyone else thought it couldn’t happen here.
But, the majority of adults don’t understand what slavery means to this country’s history. Most just think it was a thing in the South that ended in 1865, and that we’re done with it.
Most also think that the Notth was a pardon the phrase safe place for freed slaves and their descendants. I hear so often- my family never owned slaves.
re: #344 dangerman
no… better you only get your information here and do what we say
there’s just so much to read, and I feel like I got enough Orwellian entertainment from Twilight Zone marathons.
re: #349 HappyWarrior
Most also think that the Notth was a pardon the phrase safe place for freed slaves and their descendants. I hear so often- my family never owned slaves.
We need to teach the history of slavery, not just in America, but the entire history of human slavery. And point out that every slave-holding nation either abolished slavery or perished.
re: #350 KGxvi
there’s just so much to read, and I feel like I got enough Orwellian entertainment from Twilight Zone marathons.
Homage to Catalonia is different than 1984 and Animal Farm. Give that one a read.
re: #350 KGxvi
there’s just so much to read, and I feel like I got enough Orwellian entertainment from Twilight Zone marathons.
that’s ok. that’s what we wanted you to do
America’s ignorance on slavery really hasn’t changed much because America has never really wanted to come to terms with it. That could change, and should change, with the group Democrats are based on now. But it won’t be pretty going through it.
I had to pull part of the Texas declaration of secession to prove to a 35 year old coworker that the reason for leaving was slavery.
re: #345 Belafon
The slavery portion explicitly allowed by the 13th amendment.
Plugging Ava Duvernay’s documentary “The 13th” here.
re: #355 JordanRules
Plugging Ava Duvernay’s documentary “The 13th” here.
That was so good. It made my Dad really think about the African American experience in this country in a way he hadn’t before.
re: #328 JordanRules
There’s a song that comes to mind every time these religious extremists caterwaul about something that offends their sensitivities.
re: #350 KGxvi
there’s just so much to read, and I feel like I got enough Orwellian entertainment from Twilight Zone marathons.
1984 is an American classic. You really should read it, especially now that a lot of what he foresaw is occuring. It may give you an appreciation as to how artists can see something now and think about how it may morph into the future. It is a scary vision.
re: #335 ObserverArt
And what have been some of the responses?
I don’t watch more than the first half-hour if I watch, but I don’t think Joe likes Nunes much either.
The usual answer is “um… er… we’ve seen no definitive proof.” Nobody has yet said “that’s ridiculous, of course not.”
re: #354 Belafon
America’s ignorance on slavery really hasn’t changed much because America has never really wanted to come to terms with it. That could change, and should change, with the group Democrats are based on now. But it won’t be pretty going through it.
I had to pull part of the Texas declaration of secession to prove to a 35 year old coworker that the reason for leaving was slavery.
We get told that our or those of us with Southern white ancestors were fighting for a flawed but fundamentally just cause. We don’t learn about Southern Unionists who risked everything including their lives for the Union.
re: #360 HappyWarrior
We get told that our or those of us with Southern white ancestors were fighting for a flawed but fundamentally just cause. We don’t learn about Southern Unionists who risked everything including their lives for the Union.
The cause of the US confederacy was the evil of human slavery. People who can’t accept that simple truth need to grow the fuck up.
re: #337 sagehen
I watched a Vice show about how the prison system works in Louisiana. It’s is truly slavery. Prisoners (read: blacks with minor pot possession convictions) staff the state house and serve lawmakers (read: white fat cat politicians). Sheriffs get a stipend for each day a prisoner they arrested is incarcerated. The money just piles on up.
Think the good ole boys in Louisiana want to change the pot laws and lose their slaves, er I mean guaranteed cheap labor?
re: #321 Citizen K
As an addition….this is why I’m scared that our ‘future generations’ will not save us, demographic shifts or no: because the GOP has already won the language war, and now the history war. We’ll have generations of kids who have been told slavery was a total non-factor, and may have been ‘beneficial’, completely disassociated from the horrors of the time. How long until we’ll have actual literal fucking movements to reimplement slavery as a means of addressing the ‘immigrant’ problem, or even just because they truly have seen blacks as literally and genetically inferior because of what they’re fed in school now?
If it makes you feel any better, my youngsters already know what started the Civil War and they are 11 and 13. They have fantastic teachers who add to history what is not in books as do I.
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