It’s True: Utah Lawmakers Made the Worst Rap Ever. Here’s Proof.
Utah’s House of Representatives wanted to show how a bill becomes a law. Instead, they showed how an innocent attempt at musical humor becomes a catastrophe of historic proportions.
Utah’s House of Representatives wanted to show how a bill becomes a law. Instead, they showed how an innocent attempt at musical humor becomes a catastrophe of historic proportions.
Sorry to go OT but two things, see Three Billboards Outside Edding, Missouri. And Trump really fucking said that?!?
re: #1 HappyWarrior
Sorry to go OT but two things, see Three Billboards Outside Edding, Missouri. And Trump really fucking said that?!?
I really liked it, though I thought the town itself looked like an artist’s rendition of an Ozark town.
Carryover ‘cause I posted at the end of the last thread
re: #259 The Major
Back then we knew how to build shit. These days, we’d rather outsource it….
When the Hoover dam was built, materials were expensive; labor was cheap. You added flourishes to all architecture, even utilitarian .
Now, materials are cheap and labor is expensive. Buildings get put up as fast as possible to save on labor; everyday utilitarian buildings tend to not to get those flourishes.
re: #1 HappyWarrior
Sorry to go OT but two things, see Three Billboards Outside Edding, Missouri. And Trump really fucking said that?!?
It was my favorite movie of the year — I’ve seen most of the nominees and IMHO this was the best.
Ugh! I tweeted about this fuckin’ horrible piece of music two days ago. It’s the worst! The worst rap ever.
The Utah House of Representatives made a rap video about how a bill becomes law, and somehow it’s worse than you would expect pic.twitter.com/Dq3U7RwGBu
— Robert Maguire (@RobertMaguire_) March 1, 2018
Oh. My. Fucking. God. All that work @Eminem did to legitimize white rappers is flushed down the toilet in one fell swoop by dorko legislators in Utah. This is among the worst rap of all time. Must be heard to be believed. https://t.co/2QR8ifaAe7
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) March 1, 2018
re: #1 HappyWarrior
And Trump really fucking said that?!?
I didn’t believe it either until I went to the CNN web site. This statement should be weaponized and used against Trump and (hopefully) the entire Republican party.
How ‘bout some good news? Bye bye, quack!
@gorskon breaking news. Health Ranger YouTube channel taken down by YouTube! https://t.co/gjAUcSJAok
— Craig Payne (@CraigBPayne) March 4, 2018
Whoa. @YouTube took down @healthranger’s channel for violating is TOS. The reaction should be epic. https://t.co/Bqoi8w7jDM
— David Gorski, MD, PhD (@gorskon) March 4, 2018
re: #9 A dark and stormy covfefe
??? Who is healthranger????
re: #10 Hecuba’s daughter
??? Who is healthranger????
A quack whack-a-loon, if their name is being shared here in that context.
Roy Moore is having a hard time making ends meet. So I’ve sent his legal fund a check (below), and you can, too! #RoyMoore Address:
Roy Moore Legal Fund
One Dexter Ave. #3
Montgomery, AL 36104. pic.twitter.com/1UBLxtsy96— ArtMofo (@Art_Mofo) March 3, 2018
re: #10 Hecuba’s daughter
re: #12 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
That’s a good real world physical troll. My applause.
I want to fulfill my new years resolution and play every video posted here
And I try not to prejudge
But nope
Apparently i do have limits
That moranic Friday video ..which I did play once
And this one that I won’t.
Utah lawmakers and rap in the same sentence. Nope.
re: #13 A dark and stormy covfefe
Ahh! The well-known germ denialist and opponent of soap and water.
Nailed it:
Over the course of his life and career, from guns, to health care, to abortion, to the Iraq War, to whether the federal government’s monthly employment numbers are “phony,” Trump hasn’t been even close to the get-it-done, never-back-down, super negotiator of his own daydreams. As near as I can tell, his deepest convictions are that the best steak is an overcooked one and that there’s nothing that doesn’t look better with his name, in all-caps, appended to it.
I must have closed out or nearly closed out a couple of hundred threads and only once dragged my immortal musings over to the next one, but I’m doing it here because it’s sorta relevant to the topic and because, IMHO, it’s important:
re: #250 stpaulbear
YouTube rabbit hole time:
Desmond Dekker & The Aces - Israelites (1969). This was a pretty big hit, even with the line “Wife and my kids, they fuck off and-a leave me…”
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Aw, man, everybody I knew in San Francisco at that time loved this song.
But you don’t need YouTube to go down a musical rabbit hole. I just watched an insurance commercial in which a woman had dented a fender of her car. The music expressing her agony was Nirvana’s “Love Hurts.” Opinions may vary greatly, but to me this is one of the most original and most haunting songs on the theme of love ever made.
Jesus not only wept, but in the next verse he said, “Dad, can’t we do something about these fucking philistines?”
For some time now (ca. 20 years) top quacks have been warning that Big Pharma was about to start rounding up anti-vaxxers and sending them to FEMA camp.
Gee, imagine what disease-ridden pestholes those will be.
re: #2 Skip Intro
Clue us in.
The movie is about a mother putting up billboards to bring attention to her daughter’s murder and the lack of progress by the police. Well filmed and acted.
re: #9 A dark and stormy covfefe
How ‘bout some good news? Bye bye, quack!
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What’s a health ranger?
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) March 4, 2018
re: #8 Hecuba’s daughter
I didn’t believe it either until I went to the CNN web site. This statement should be weaponized and used against Trump and (hopefully) the entire Republican party.
Yes it should be.
re: #6 Hecuba’s daughter
I just saw Lady Bird today and enjoyed that.
I imagine the Oscars won’t flub the Best Picture announcement again tomorrow.
re: #24 Ace-o-aces
And isn’t it cute to see Roger and his boys flashing the White Power sign?
— josephebacon 🌹 (@josephebacon) March 4, 2018
— MC 555 nanometer Jesus (@goddamnedfrank) March 4, 2018
re: #21 Skip Intro
Trump is a closet Democrat?
I think not.
Yeah, some of Rick’s analysis is idiotic, and I still don’t trust him, but that paragraph did stand out as “the troof.”
A nice story—because we need/deserve one:
Two years after he was fatally shot by a police officer in Minnesota, Philando Castile is still helping students afford lunch.
A charity created in Castile’s honor has paid off the lunch debt for every student in the 56 schools in the St. Paul Public School District, including the school where Castile worked as a cafeteria supervisor.
re: #34 BeachDem
A nice story—because we need/deserve one:
Two years after he was fatally shot by a police officer in Minnesota, Philando Castile is still helping students afford lunch.
A charity created in Castile’s honor has paid off the lunch debt for every student in the 56 schools in the St. Paul Public School District, including the school where Castile worked as a cafeteria supervisor.
Beautiful. He’d be happy to see that.
OK, that’s funny.
But, it’s also a pretty dick move.
Trump cracked that he was running late because oft-criticized aide and son-in-law Jared Kushner had trouble getting through security. https://t.co/T2hnW5cZa0
— USA TODAY (@USATODAY) March 4, 2018
At this point, do we really need to point out that Obama saying anything that sounded like “I wanna be president-for-life” would have sent millions of wingnuts into the stratosphere with rage? That every Republican would be so incandescent with rage that they could serve as a spotlight? And that “serious” pundits would be burning up a lot of ink and pixels ranting about how he was entertaining tyrannical ideas totally at odds with the Founders?
FFS, “IOKIYAR” is gonna be the death of this republic.
re: #39 Targetpractice
At this point, do we really need to point out that Obama saying anything that sounded like “I wanna be president-for-life” would have sent millions of wingnuts into the stratosphere with rage? That every Republican would be so incandescent with rage that they could serve as a spotlight? And that “serious” pundits would be burning up a lot of ink and pixels ranting about how he was entertaining tyrannical ideas totally at odds with the Founders?
FFS, “IOKIYAR” is gonna be the death of this republic.
I just can’t wait to hear from all the supposed anti communist how Trump praising this isn’t so bad or how Obama doing what he did with Cuba is equivalent.
re: #31 Joe Bacon 🌹
Congrats, I guess, to the Emoji Movie. Blehhhhhhhhhhhh….
Morning Spin: $50,000 gets ‘gold’ sponsorship of Rauner dinner featuring Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker
Republican Gov. Bruce Rauner and the state GOP already are planning past his March 20 primary race against state Rep. Jeanne Ives, announcing a fundraising dinner in April featuring Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker.
Tickets for the fourth annual Illinois Republican Party Governor’s Dinner in Chicago start at $500 per person and go all the way up to $50,000 for the honor of being a “gold sponsor.” That includes four tickets to a “private roundtable,” 10 reception tickets with a photo and a “premium” table for 10 for dinner, according to an invitation.
Donald J Trump is the President of the United States #TriggerALiberalIn4Words
— Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) March 4, 2018
No one self-owns like Jack! https://t.co/pmCmgGa8Cz
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) March 4, 2018
What part of “4” confuses him?
#TheMostImportantThings And that’s 9 words and an initial.
— 🦈🦈Dave’s Not Believing this Crap🦈🦈 (@DaveoutofAustin) March 4, 2018
re: #45 Dave In Austin
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— it’s andrew, from tweets (@amcnal) March 4, 2018
re: #17 BeachDem
But notice that Mr. Wilson claims that Trump is really a Democrat. Lol. Trump would never have made it past the early set of primary races if he had run as a Democrat.
re: #7 teleskiguy
You just had to make me go there, didn’t ya? pic.twitter.com/z6RzrIWsPo
— TheMajor (@TheMajorsViews) March 4, 2018
re: #9 A dark and stormy covfefe
About frickin’ time if ya ask me….. pic.twitter.com/UAYi2s3YKa
— TheMajor (@TheMajorsViews) March 4, 2018
re: #47 Patricia Kayden
But notice that Mr. Wilson claims that Trump is really a Democrat. Lol. Trump would never have made it past the early set of primary races if he had run as a Democrat.
He’s getting hammered in the comments for that. Good. Republicans elected him and still support him with their actions, no matter what they try to say.
re: #24 Ace-o-aces
So, self-described performance artist gets a channel cut out from under him, and he cries like a baby - is this another performance? (BTW-seen your kids lately?) pic.twitter.com/NtXpw72vwJ
— TheMajor (@TheMajorsViews) March 4, 2018
Speaking of potentially-president-for-life Xi Jinping, it seems the government is imposing new rules on delegates to the national party congress, meeting in Beijing now.
No cellphones.
No talking.
No comments.
No talking to the media.
The body generally just rubber stamps the government’s proposals anyway, but this time it seems the rulers want to quash any possible dissent, or appearance of same.
FWIW some politicians and intellectuals in China have warned against a cult of personality developing around Xi, but their warnings have gone unheeded, either because of complacency or fear. I doubt the elimination of term limits for the presidency will be contested, and Xi will be allowed to rule past 2023 (the 10th year in office). I do not plan to be in China that long.
re: #43 Ace-o-aces
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What part of “4” confuses him?
Lol. Not triggered. Laughing at how stupid you are Pizza man.
re: #50 stpaulbear
He’s getting hammered in the comments for that. Good. Republicans elected him and still support him with their actions, no matter what they try to say.
Yep I like Rick more than most Republicans but that was a pathetic claim. Trump is a Republican and Republicans are responsible for Trump. Sooner Rick accepts this, the better.
re: #39 Targetpractice
At this point, do we really need to point out that Obama saying anything that sounded like “I wanna be president-for-life” would have sent millions of wingnuts into the stratosphere with rage? That every Republican would be so incandescent with rage that they could serve as a spotlight? And that “serious” pundits would be burning up a lot of ink and pixels ranting about how he was entertaining tyrannical ideas totally at odds with the Founders?
FFS, “IOKIYAR” is gonna be the death of this republic.
The very definition of wingnuts, which at this point includes roughly 90% of the Republican party, is that they can’t possibly recognize, much less understand, what you’re saying here. They are at this point as immune to facts and logic as certain deadly dangerous bacteria are to antibiotics. Confronted with your message, which is undeniable to reasoning people, their programmed mentality defends itself with “But her emails!” or “Monica!” or “He’s a Muslim who hates America!” or just “MAGA! USA USA USA!”
I always thought I didn’t like zombie flicks because they were just plain stupid, but I’m beginning to think that I don’t like them because they represent the idiocy that thinking people have to face every freakin day in what our country has become.
re: #55 HappyWarrior
Yep I like Rick more than most Republicans but that was a pathetic claim. Trump is a Republican and Republicans are responsible for Trump. Sooner Rick accepts this, the better.
Trump’s only party loyalty is to Trump himself. He likely hung out with Democrats, because he thought it would ingratiate him with entertainment moguls. He ran as a Republican, because (as he is quoted as saying) Republicans are stupid and would vote for him. Right now, he espouses policies more akin to Republican than Democratic policies, but those could change depending on who last spoke with him.
re: #55 HappyWarrior
Donald Trump is what he’s been consistently: a man who uses a standard set of flashiness, braggadocio posturing, lies, and emotional appeal to obtain what he wants…and what he wants is deference from others and to be able to actualize his whims. Con men change identities and affiliations effortlessly, finding an angle to work. Why, this time, is the angle that works “what’s already been working when it was executed by Nixon, Reagan, Gingrich, Limbaugh, etc.”? Not a mystery.
What Wilson fails to grok is that the Republican Party, as an institution, and the Republican base are willing to participate in that nihilism and that matters more than whatever label Trump attempts to appropriate.
Mom Anon,
I’m sorry to hear about your hub’s troubles. I hope things improve soon.
—-
Wow, YouTube brings down the banhammer on Jerome Corsi of Infowars and Mike Adams (Health Ranger) of Natural News in a couple days of each other.
Think they can start cleaning out the Nazis next?
Corsi’s channel has been restored, but all the videos are gone. In the discussion section of his channel the deafening cries of Freeze Peach! are all over the comments, suggesting he should sue YouTube (good luck with that).
re: #56 whitebeach
I always thought I didn’t like zombie flicks because they were just plain stupid, but I’m beginning to think that I don’t like them because they represent the idiocy that thinking people have to face every freakin day in what our country has become.
I suspect the creators of these zombie flicks had that similarity in mind. Certainly dealing with idiots on Twitter resembles a never-ending battle with mindless, ravening hordes of the undead.
re: #57 wheat-dogg
Trump’s only party loyalty is to Trump himself. He likely hung out with Democrats, because he thought it would ingratiate him with entertainment moguls. He ran as a Republican, because (as he is quoted as saying) Republicans are stupid and would vote for him. Right now, he espouses policies more akin to Republican than Democratic policies, but those could change depending on who last spoke with him.
The Trump family has been a vicious criminal enterprise for at least three generations. That is all ye know and all ye need to know.
re: #55 HappyWarrior
Yep I like Rick more than most Republicans but that was a pathetic claim. Trump is a Republican and Republicans are responsible for Trump. Sooner Rick accepts this, the better.
It was DARVO. Rick can’t admit to himself that he and other establishment Republicans happily condoned decades of deliberate, ever worsening racial resentment within the GOP. So of course he must externalize the man who charmed their Frankenstein’s monster away from their control and casts that man as a “Democrat.”
re: #57 wheat-dogg
Trump’s only party loyalty is to Trump himself. He likely hung out with Democrats, because he thought it would ingratiate him with entertainment moguls. He ran as a Republican, because (as he is quoted as saying) Republicans are stupid and would vote for him. Right now, he espouses policies more akin to Republican than Democratic policies, but those could change depending on who last spoke with him.
True I agree he has no principles but Wilson needs to accept his rise as president and presidential aspirant is entirely on the party Rick made his bones with. It just rings as an excuse and suggesting that GOP voters don’t embrace Trump and Trumpism when they have.
re: #55 HappyWarrior
Yep I like Rick more than most Republicans but that was a pathetic claim. Trump is a Republican and Republicans are responsible for Trump. Sooner Rick accepts this, the better.
Trump was nominated by Republicans and elected by Republicans, racists, religious fanatics, and desperate naive people who bought his lies about the economy. He never would have been nominated by Democrats. But he himself is not truly a Republican or a Democrat. He has no political beliefs whatsoever. He wants to be dictator, worshiped, and wealthy. Nothing else is of any interest to him.
re: #62 goddamnedfrank
Lunch debt.
It was DARVO. Rick can’t admit to himself that he and other establishment Republicans happily condoned decades of deliberate, ever worsening racial resentment within the GOP. So of course he must externalize the man who charmed their Frankenstein’s monster away from their control and casts that man as a “Democrat.”
Yes, well said.
re: #64 Hecuba’s daughter
Trump was nominated by Republicans and elected by Republicans, racists, religious fanatics, and desperate naive people who bought his lies about the economy. He never would have been nominated by Democrats. But he himself is not truly a Republican or a Democrat. He has no political beliefs whatsoever. He wants to be dictator, worshiped, and wealthy. Nothing else is of any interest to him.
That’s it!
re: #58 The Ghost of a Flea
Donald Trump is what he’s been consistently: a man who uses a standard set of flashiness, braggadocio posturing, lies, and emotional appeal to obtain what he wants…and what he wants is deference from others and to be able to actualize his whims. Con men change identities and affiliations effortlessly, finding an angle to work. Why, this time, is the angle that works “what’s already been working when it was executed by Nixon, Reagan, Gingrich, Limbaugh, etc.”? Not a mystery.
What Wilson fails to grok is that the Republican Party, as an institution, and the Republican base are willing to participate in that nihilism and that matters more than whatever label Trump attempts to appropriate.
Well said.
re: #64 Hecuba’s daughter
Trump was nominated by Republicans and elected by Republicans, racists, religious fanatics, and desperate naive people who bought his lies about the economy. He never would have been nominated by Democrats. But he himself is not truly a Republican or a Democrat. He has no political beliefs whatsoever. He wants to be dictator, worshiped, and wealthy. Nothing else is of any interest to him.
Absolutely which makes Wilson’s Democrat claim all the more absurd.
re: #55 HappyWarrior
Yep I like Rick more than most Republicans but that was a pathetic claim. Trump is a Republican and Republicans are responsible for Trump. Sooner Rick accepts this, the better.
He’ll be memory-holed as “not a real Republican” much like GW Bush was.
Conservatism can only be failed, because it’s a religion. The claim is much like “no true Christian.”
re: #68 wheat-dogg
Trump openly says what most Republicans only think internally, or whisper among themselves. He found a home in the GOP because they believe what he apparently believes. I can’t understand why Wilson cannot see something so obvious.
Because it would mean admitting he worked for a racist know nothing Party and that conservative saints like Reagan, Buckley, & others own that too. Wilson may be right about Trump but he’s still a Republican.
re: #70 Anymouse 🌹
He’ll be memory-holed as “not a real Republican” much like GW Bush was.
Conservatism can only be failed, because it’s a religion. The claim is much like “no true Christian.”
No True Scotsman is the fallacy here but yes.
re: #64 Hecuba’s daughter
Trump was nominated by Republicans and elected by Republicans, racists, religious fanatics, and desperate naive people who bought his lies about the economy. He never would have been nominated by Democrats. But he himself is not truly a Republican or a Democrat. He has no political beliefs whatsoever. He wants to be dictator, worshiped, and wealthy. Nothing else is of any interest to him.
I beg to differ. That describes most Republican politicians in my lifetime. That is conservatism (thus the current GOP). See also Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, &c.
Sorry, got sidetracked by the fuckery. This is what “lunch debt” was supposed to refer to. As in it’s fucked up that such a thing even exists in this country.
A charity run in Philando Castile’s name just wiped out the lunch debt of every student at all 56 schools in the district where he worked https://t.co/vMqrmdR7QT
— Philip Lewis (@Phil_Lewis_) March 3, 2018
Also, it’s as good a time as any to remind everyone that the NRA said fuck all about Castile’s murder by a police officer because in practical terms they’re just another conservative group incapable of viewing black men as legal gun owners who don’t deserve to be killed by cops for no good reason.
re: #72 HappyWarrior
No True Scotsman is the fallacy here but yes.
You don’t know how many times I’ve heard “he’s no true Christian.” While the fallacy is named after the alleged Scotsman, I see it most used in Christian sects arguing each other, or trying to throw one of their own under a bus when he or she does something wrong.
How many Christians now claim Roy Moore is “not a true Christian?”
re: #74 goddamnedfrank
Sorry, got sidetracked by the fuckery. This is what “lunch debt” was supposed to refer to. As in it’s fucked up that such a thing even exists in this country.
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Also, it’s as good a time as any to remind everyone that the NRA said fuck all about Castille’s murder by a police officer because in practical terms they’re just another conservative group incapable of viewing black men as legal gun owners who don’t deserve to be killed by cops for no good reason.
If I recall Frank, they did one worse, Dana blamed him for his death because marijuana means you deserve death to those fuckwads.
re: #76 HappyWarrior
If I recall Frank, they did one worse, Dana blamed him for his death because marijuana means you deserve death to those fuckwads.
Running theme: they get to dictate who deserved it. That’s all there is to their entire worldview.
re: #52 wheat-dogg
FWIW some politicians and intellectuals in China have warned against a cult of personality developing around Xi, but their warnings have gone unheeded, either because of complacency or fear. I doubt the elimination of term limits for the presidency will be contested, and Xi will be allowed to rule past 2023 (the 10th year in office.
And they will pay a heavy price for that transgression - witness Stalin and WW II….
re: #75 Anymouse 🌹
You don’t know how many times I’ve heard “he’s no true Christian.” While the fallacy is named after the alleged Scotsman, I see it most used in Christian sects arguing each other, or trying to throw one of their own under a bus when he or she does something wrong.
How many Christians now claim Roy Moore is “not a true Christian?”
You’re being far too literal here. I’m definitely familiar with it being used with Christianity. Just the fallacy itself is called No True Scotsman. Kinda like Red Herring.
re: #39 Targetpractice
“At this point, do we really need to point out that Obama saying anything that sounded like “I wanna be president-for-life” would have sent millions of wingnuts into the stratosphere with rage? That every Republican would be so incandescent with rage that they could serve as a spotlight? And that “serious” pundits would be burning up a lot of ink and pixels ranting about how he was entertaining tyrannical ideas totally at odds with the Founders?”
I remember when the conspiracy theory that Obama was going to cancel the 2016 elections was all the RW rage. Although some Americans swear up and down that they love the constitution, they don’t seem to know what’s it in other than what RW media tells them.
re: #77 The Ghost of a Flea
Running theme: they get to dictate who deserved it. That’s all there is to their entire worldview.
They’re such an awful organization.
I sort of disagree that Trump has no real principles. Lehigh University recently revoked his honorary degree and Smerconish was showing what he said 30 years ago. It’s oret much verbatim what his campaign was. Our foreign policy is run by idiots and I’m a genius. It’s not complex but his principles at their core are everyone sucks but him.
re: #79 HappyWarrior
You’re being far too literal here. I’m definitely familiar with it being used with Christianity. Just the fallacy itself is called No True Scotsman. Kinda like Red Herring.
[scratches head]
I was being too literal by deliberately misnaming the fallacy by comparing conservatism to certain Christians?
I’ll have to go to my dictionary to check the definition of “literal.”
The fellow who took Jeffery Dahlmer’s confession insists that murderer and cannibal’s conversion was sincere. According to the theology propounded to me frequently around here, he’s in heaven, and I’m bound for hell despite never killing and eating anyone.
re: #81 majii
“At this point, do we really need to point out that Obama saying anything that sounded like “I wanna be president-for-life” would have sent millions of wingnuts into the stratosphere with rage? That every Republican would be so incandescent with rage that they could serve as a spotlight? And that “serious” pundits would be burning up a lot of ink and pixels ranting about how he was entertaining tyrannical ideas totally at odds with the Founders?”
I remember when the conspiracy theory that Obama was going to cancel the 2016 elections was all the RW rage. Although some Americans swear up and down that they love the constitution, they don’t seem to know what’s it in other than what RW media tells them.
I posted the CNN article to my FB page. This is a dangerous man who is working to destroy our country. And our Congress and Senate better stop him. We have survived other crises; we will survive this.
Remember the good ol’ days when Obama was supposed to be the crazy motherfucker who wanted to be “President for Life”?
re: #86 Eclectic Cyborg
Remember the good ol’ days when Obama was supposed to be the crazy motherfucker who wanted to be “President for Life”?
Projection, always, &c
I am disappointed in Guillermo del Toro, the similarities between these two works are far too numerous to be mere coincidence.
re: #78 The Major
And they will pay a heavy price for that transgression - witness Stalin and WW II….
Sadly, they already did it with Mao, and have forgotten the lessons learned (assuming they are old enough to remember those events.) Younger people don’t know anything about Mao’s colossal mistakes (causing the Great Famine, for example), the Tian’anmen Massacre, the worst atrocities of the Cultural Revolution, etc. AFAIK term limits were put in the Chinese constitution specifically to prevent the next Mao from happening.
Xi’s anti-corruption campaign, which has wide popular support, has also decimated the ranks of the opposition. Few if any of his supporters within the party have been found guilty of corruption. You can connect the dots on your own.
re: #84 Anymouse 🌹
[scratches head]
I was being to literal by deliberately misnaming the fallacy by comparing conservatism to certain Christians?
I’ll have to go to my dictionary to check the definition of “literal.”
The fellow who took Jeffery Dahlmer’s confession insists that murderer and cannibal’s conversion was sincere. According to the theology propounded to me frequently around here, he’s in heaven, and I’m bound for hell despite never killing and eating anyone.
Yeah you are. I’m not saying that what you’re talking about doesn’t happen. Indeed it happens frequently. Just that the name of the idiom is No True Scotsman not No True Christian. I’m saying that you gave an example of a NTS. NTC is a variation of NTS.
re: #86 Eclectic Cyborg
Remember the good ol’ days when Obama was supposed to be the crazy motherfucker who wanted to be “President for Life”?
Remember when Obama was always “raging” yet it seems we can’t read a story where WH sources describe Trump in a good mood.
re: #88 goddamnedfrank
I am disappointed in Guillermo del Toro, the coincidences between these two works are far too numerous to be mere coincidence.
I watched the movie just a few days ago. I was underwhelmed. Pan’s Labyrinth was much better and more creative. The Shape of Water just seemed like another version of the Beauty and the Beast plot line.
I am old enough to remember when Obama was coddling communism by opening up trade and relations with Cuba according to Cruz and Rubio. I betcha neither will say anything about Trump praising Xi’s expansion of his power or thinking we need that here.
re: #88 goddamnedfrank
I am disappointed in Guillermo del Toro, the coincidences between these two works are far too numerous to be mere coincidence.
This is the first I’ve heard of the plagiarism. Am unfamiliar with this play or the author. But that is a real shame. Del Toro should have given credit to this source.
re: #92 wheat-dogg
I watched the movie just a few days ago. I was underwhelmed. Pan’s Labyrinth was much better and more creative. The Shape of Water just seemed like another version of the Beauty and the Beast plot line.
I was also underwhelmed, but it seemed to me that he was telling exactly the same story as he did in Pan’s Labyrinth, with different “atmospherics.” And I liked PL much more.
re: #88 goddamnedfrank
Yes, I know I need to edit more before posting.
But also, you’re not the boss of me.
re: #90 HappyWarrior
Yeah you are. I’m not saying that what you’re talking about doesn’t happen. Indeed it happens frequently. Just that the name of the idiom is No True Scotsman not No True Christian. I’m saying that you gave an example of a NTS. NTC is a variation of NTS.
It’s not a clip, it’s a magazine.
As I said, I’m aware of the name of the fallacy. I am actually in the process of writing up my next apolgetics fail for my Webpage called the “no true Christian” fallacy, as atheists run into that far more often than Scots.
And I like pineapple on pizza.
The reality is that the GOP can only survive Trump the same way they survived Dubya: Treat him as an aberration, make him an “unperson,” and act as though the party was conned into voting for something they never would have supported otherwise. It’s how you have so many now who insist they never supported going into Iraq, but they think that we “won” something and Obama is totally to blame for failing to secure that “victory.” When Trump leaves office, willingly or otherwise, the GOP will swear to a man that they never would have voted for him if they’d known what he’d do. They’re all “Good Germans,” they never supported that sort of craziness, and the nation needs to “move on.”
re: #97 Anymouse 🌹
It’s not a clip, it’s a magazine.
As I said, I’m aware of the name of the fallacy. I am actually in the process of writing up my next apolgetics fail for my Webpage called the “no true Christian” fallacy, as atheists run into that far more often than Scots.
And I like pineapple on pizza.
Damn it, mouse, you were doing great right up there till the end.
re: #99 whitebeach
Damn it, mouse, you were doing great right up there till the end.
LOL No true pizza lover.
re: #75 Anymouse 🌹
How many Christians now claim Roy Moore is “not a true Christian?”
The silence does not surprise me. The same silence when the subject is Trump or Ryan or McConnell or Moore or Chaffetz or Gowdy or…
re: #97 Anymouse 🌹
It’s not a clip, it’s a magazine.
As I said, I’m aware of the name of the fallacy. I am actually in the process of writing up my next apolgetics fail for my Webpage called the “no true Christian” fallacy, as atheists run into that far more often than Scots.
And I like pineapple on pizza.
Fair enough.
re: #97 Anymouse 🌹
And I like pineapple on pizza.
Maybe I should send you a completely private message about the fact that I have actually enjoyed pineapple on a pizza.
But then again, I was raised in all the countries with weird versions of US food—prawn cocktail potato chips, Maggi ketchup, every bonkers thing Japan does to food—so I may not be the be the best support to cite.
re: #99 whitebeach
Damn it, mouse, you were doing great right up there till the end.
Yeah unforgivable. But my Dad is worse. He likes anchovies on his.
AM though the guy accepting Dshmer as Heaven bound while damning you isn’t NTS. It’s theological. It’s the idea anyone who accepts Christ as their savior goes to Heaven and if you don’t youre hellbound. I obviously disagree with that but that’s theology not a fallacy. A very fucked up theology mind you.
re: #103 The Ghost of a Flea
Maybe I should send you a completely private message about the fact that I have actually enjoyed pineapple on a pizza.
But then again, I was raised in all the countries with weird versions of US food—prawn cocktail potato chips, Maggi ketchup, every bonkers thing Japan does to food—so I may not be the be the best support to cite.
Corn on pizza, for another example. They do that in China, too, and the zillion flavors of potato chips/crisps.
re: #103 The Ghost of a Flea
Maybe I should send you a completely private message about the fact that I have actually enjoyed pineapple on a pizza.
But then again, I was raised in all the countries with weird versions of US food—prawn cocktail potato chips, Maggi ketchup, every bonkers thing Japan does to food—so I may not be the be the best support to cite.
I think for me is that the pizza makes the pineapple hot and I really prefer less juicy pizza toppings like pepperoni or spinach.
re: #106 wheat-dogg
Corn on pizza, for another example. They do that in China, too, and the zillion flavors of potato chips/crisps.
I think the corn is a Czech thing too. I believe Doc Lizardo has told us about Czech pizza habits. No thanks to that. I love corn on the cob but not with pizza. Steak, burgers, hot dogs yes.
Ketchup on hot dogs and other assorted smoked sausages?
Yay for dogs but novfor kolbasi, Italian sausages, etc.
re: #104 HappyWarrior
Yeah unforgivable. But my Dad is worse. He likes anchovies on his.
My wife ruins pizzas that way too.
When she worked at Digital Equipment, she would occasionally order pizza with anchovies. She says until local pizzerias became familiar with her fishy taste (double entendre intended) they would refuse to take such an order unless she came into the pizza joint and ordered it in person.
re: #107 HappyWarrior
I think for me is that the pizza makes the pineapple hot and I really prefer less juicy pizza toppings like pepperoni or spinach.
I picked it up from my mom, who puts the pineapple not on the pizza while it bakes, but as something added to the slice just before you eat it. She does the same with really fresh tomato.
re: #111 The Ghost of a Flea
I picked it up from my mom, who puts the pineapple not on the pizza while it bakes, but as something added to the slice just before you eat it. She does the same with really fresh tomato.
Now I could live with that. I think pineapple is too sweet for pizza but I’m not strongly anti pineapple.
re: #110 Anymouse 🌹
My wife ruins pizzas that way too.
When she worked at Digital Equipment, she would occasionally order pizza with anchovies. She says until local pizzerias became familiar with her fishy taste (double entendre intended) they would refuse to take such an order unless she came into the pizza joint and ordered it in person.
I love fish but not on pizza. I like an assortment of meats, veggies, & cheeses.
re: #104 HappyWarrior
Yeah unforgivable. But my Dad is worse. He likes anchovies on his.
Pineapple and anchovies do NOT belong on pizza. Those are venial sins. Of course, I don’t think anchovies belong on anything.
re: #105 HappyWarrior
AM though the guy accepting Dshmer as Heaven bound while damning you isn’t NTS. It’s theological. It’s the idea anyone who accepts Christ as their savior goes to Heaven and if you don’t youre hellbound. I obviously disagree with that but that’s theology not a fallacy. A very fucked up theology mind you.
That’s the flip side of it. The Duggars and Huckabees fit into that. Christians howling in Kentucky to allow 13 yo girls to marry while decrying Muhammad are part of it.
Catholics aren’t “true Christians” to a lot of Evangelical Protestant sects (or calling the Pope the antichrist). Ditto with the Obama family and Clinton family.
That was why I made the original comparison up the thread that conservatism is like a religion, and when someone “fails” conservatism they are not true conservative. (That would also be the No True Scotsman fallacy.)
re: #114 Hecuba’s daughter
Pineapple and anchovies do NOT belong on pizza. Those are venial sins. Of course, I don’t think anchovies belong on anything.
Thankfully everyone else agrees but he keeps his fish love to himself.
re: #109 HappyWarrior
Ketchup on hot dogs and other assorted smoked sausages?
Yay for dogs but novfor kolbasi, Italian sausages, etc.
Kielbasa should only get ground horseradish (not that creamy stuff), or you’re no true Polish sausage lover. /s
re: #115 Anymouse 🌹
That’s the flip side of it. The Duggars and Huckabees fit into that. Christians howling in Kentucky to allow 13 yo girls to marry while decrying Muhammad are part of it.
Catholics aren’t “true Christians” to a lot of Evangelical Protestant sects (or calling the Pope the antichrist). Ditto with the Obama family and Clinton family.
That was why I made the original comparison up the thread that conservatism is like a religion, and when someone “fails” conservatism they are not true conservative. (That would also be the No True Scotsman fallacy.)
No argument here at all just that Dahmer’s preacher wasn’t engaging in a fallacy but rather a fucked up theology. You do bring up a great point though about Evangelical anti Catholicism and calling the Prophet Muhammad a pedophile while advocating teen age marriage for young women.
re: #104 HappyWarrior
Yeah unforgivable. But my Dad is worse. He likes anchovies on his.
Anchovies taste *good* with sausage and pepperoni. Pineapple is right out, but anchovies are the bomb. That salty snap is killer bee.
(By the way, traditional anchovies are salt cured. If they are vinegar cured, they are boquerones, which make one hell of a tasty nigiri with a little crushed basil and parsley on top, and a dynamite tapas dish. I absolutely inhaled them with a glass of Rioja when I was TDY in Spain.)
re: #117 Anymouse 🌹
Kielbasa should only get ground horseradish (not that creamy stuff), or you’re no true Polish sausage lover. /s
Sauerkraut works too. Spicy deli mustard and onions too. But yes creamy horseradish is bettervfor roast beef.
re: #104 HappyWarrior
Yeah unforgivable. But my Dad is worse. He likes anchovies on his.
When I was really young, I had a job driving an ice cream truck in Baton Rouge. My route went to the outer suburbs and even into semirural areas. After eating ice cream for a couple of weeks (I was poor) I had a wild craving for a sardine sandwich for lunch. I stopped at a country store and bought some bread. They didn’t have sardines, but for some reason they had anchovies, which I figured couldn’t be all that different. I bought a couple of tins and packed the little critters into a sandwich, and tried to eat it. I really haven’t cared much for anchovies since.
re: #119 austin_blue
Anchovies taste *good* with sausage and pepperoni. Pineapple is right out, but anchovies are the bomb. That salty snap is killer bee.
(By the way, traditional anchovies are salt cured. If they are vinegar cured, they are boquerones, which make one hell of a tasty nigiri with a little crushed basil and parsley on top, and a dynamite tapas dish. I absolutely inhaled them with a glass of Rioja when I was TDY in Spain.)
I’ll consider that. Dad likes them solo tho. I did like them as a tapa in Spain too to my surprise.
re: #121 whitebeach
When I was really young, I had a job driving an ice cream truck in Baton Rouge. My route went to the outer suburbs and even into semirural areas. After eating ice cream for a couple of weeks (I was poor) I had a wild craving for a sardine sandwich for lunch. I stopped at a country store and bought some bread. They didn’t have sardines, but for some reason they had anchovies, which I figured couldn’t be all that different. I bought a couple of tins and packed the little critters into a sandwich, and tried to eat it. I really haven’t cared much for anchovies since.
I found sardines nastier. I remember my one friend and his brother liked them and they having a pungent odor but it’s been 20 years so my palate may accept them now.
re: #123 HappyWarrior
I found sardines nastier. I remember my one friend and his brother liked them and they having a pungent odor but it’s been 20 years so my palate may accept them now.
I used to like canned herring on crackers but not any more. I blame my mother for convincing me that is good.
re: #108 HappyWarrior
I think the corn is a Czech thing too. I believe Doc Lizardo has told us about Czech pizza habits. No thanks to that. I love corn on the cob but not with pizza. Steak, burgers, hot dogs yes.
Yeah, corn on pizza is a thing here.
But so is curry ketchup, which is pretty good.
re: #125 Dr Lizardo
Yeah, corn on pizza is a thing here.
But so is curry ketchup, which is pretty good.
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My brother and I are definitely all about curry ketchup after our time in Germany.
re: #124 Anymouse 🌹
I used to like canned herring on crackers but not any more. I blame my mother for convincing me that is good.
I had to try pickled herring in Amsterdam. Didn’t do it for me. Much preferred the Kibberling.
re: #114 Hecuba’s daughter
Pineapple and anchovies do NOT belong on pizza. Those are venial sins. Of course, I don’t think anchovies belong on anything.
Anchovies can be great as background flavoring in sauces.
But in general I don’t like the little strongly-flavored fishies. I keep trying, though.
re: #121 whitebeach
When I was really young, I had a job driving an ice cream truck in Baton Rouge. My route went to the outer suburbs and even into semirural areas. After eating ice cream for a couple of weeks (I was poor) I had a wild craving for a sardine sandwich for lunch. I stopped at a country store and bought some bread. They didn’t have sardines, but for some reason they had anchovies, which I figured couldn’t be all that different. I bought a couple of tins and packed the little critters into a sandwich, and tried to eat it. I really haven’t cared much for anchovies since.
Salt cured anchovies should be a grace note, not the entree. Eating a salt cured anchovy plain is rough. Making a sandwich with a tin of them would be a eeew experience for almost anyone. It’s a salt bomb that will take your head off. A modern Caeser salad without anchovies isn’t a modern Caeser salad. A Lazio Puttanesca sauce needs anchovies and capers. Anchovies on pizza should be diced, not whole.
I don’t make a marinara sauce without anchovy paste. It’s as important as onion, garlic, and fresh basil.
re: #114 Hecuba’s daughter
Pineapple and anchovies do NOT belong on pizza. Those are venial sins. Of course, I don’t think anchovies belong on anything.