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Brian J.  Apr 24, 2018 • 6:36:01pm

In the big New York State Senate race between Democrat Shelly Mayer and GOoPer Julie Killian, it looks like, to paraphrase California’s last Republican, Killian will be back only in a rerun. It’s Mayer 58-42 with just under half the vote in.

westchestergov.com

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Belafon  Apr 24, 2018 • 6:38:10pm

re: #1 Brian J.

In the big New York State Senate race between Democrat Shelly Mayer and GOoPer Julie Killian, it looks like, to paraphrase California’s last Republican, Killian will be back only in a rerun. It’s Mayer 58-42 with just under half the vote in.

westchestergov.com

Who held it before?

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Brian J.  Apr 24, 2018 • 6:39:50pm

re: #2 Belafon

Who held it before?

George Latimer, a Democrat elected to be the executive of Westchester County last November. This race was supposed to give Democrats the majority in the State Senate, but Democrat Simcha Felder switched parties to keep the GOP-IDC majority in control.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 24, 2018 • 6:40:30pm

re: #1 Brian J.

In the big New York State Senate race between Democrat Shelly Mayer and GOoPer Julie Killian, it looks like, to paraphrase California’s last Republican, Killian will be back only in a rerun. It’s Mayer 58-42 with just under half the vote in.

westchestergov.com

I know nothing about the district but my standard admonition on preliminary results is that, unless you are an expert on where the votes arose, it means nothing until it’s mathematically impossible for the losing candidate to pull ahead.

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Belafon  Apr 24, 2018 • 6:42:39pm

re: #3 Brian J.

George Latimer, a Democrat elected to be the executive of Westchester County last November. This race was supposed to give Democrats the majority in the State Senate, but Democrat Simcha Felder switched parties to keep the GOP-IDC majority in control.

Are NY Democrats going to be able to get rid of these people?

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Belafon  Apr 24, 2018 • 6:44:58pm

re: #3 Brian J.

George Latimer, a Democrat elected to be the executive of Westchester County last November. This race was supposed to give Democrats the majority in the State Senate, but Democrat Simcha Felder switched parties to keep the GOP-IDC majority in control.

The only thing I agree with Phil Gramm on is that if you change parties, you should resign and rerun under your new party.

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gocart mozart  Apr 24, 2018 • 6:46:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2018 • 6:47:30pm

re: #7 gocart mozart

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Get over Jim Crow but we won’t get over the CSA.

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BeachDem  Apr 24, 2018 • 6:48:57pm

re: #3 Brian J.

George Latimer, a Democrat elected to be the executive of Westchester County last November. This race was supposed to give Democrats the majority in the State Senate, but Democrat Simcha Felder switched parties to keep the GOP-IDC majority in control.

Wow—I guess when I stopped working on that project in Westchester, I stopped paying attention to what was going on there. Missed the awful Astorino getting snockered for County Executive! Couldn’t happen to a more horrible creep.

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lawhawk  Apr 24, 2018 • 6:50:01pm

re: #3 Brian J.

Felder has caucused with the GOP as part of the breakaway faction of Democrats who decided they wanted to sidestep the existing Democratic party leadership in the State Senate.

They are a vote away from being subsumed back into Democratic party as the GOP continues sustaining losses. Felder might stick it out with the GOP for now, and Cuomo seems to prefer this outcome since he can divide and conquer to keep the Senate under his thumb.

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Brian J.  Apr 24, 2018 • 6:52:24pm

re: #9 BeachDem

Wow—I guess when I stopped working on that project in Westchester, I stopped paying attention to what was going on there. Missed the awful Astorino getting snockered for County Executive! Couldn’t happen to a more horrible creep.

In addition to that State Senate race, there’s one in the Bronx (Democrat winning by light-years) and NINE Assembly special elections (Democrats holding all four of their seats and ahead in three of the four Republican-held ones with returns). In addition, there’s a special election for the Westchester legislature that looks like a Democratic gain as the new executive appointed a GOoPer to his cabinet or whatever.

And the polls close in the Arizona special election in 70 minutes.

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gocart mozart  Apr 24, 2018 • 6:54:23pm

Roy Orbison - “Candy Man” from Black and White Night

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2018 • 6:55:08pm

re: #12 gocart mozart

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If you say his name 3 times in a mirror, he tells you that you’re in perfect shape and will live to be 200.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 24, 2018 • 6:56:26pm

re: #8 HappyWarrior

Get over Jim Crow but we won’t get over the CSA.

So true — they continue to celebrate these traitors with monuments throughout the South.

Just like my brother who continues to say that Trump won over a year ago — it’s time to get over it. My standard response is that I treat Trump with the same respect he treated Obama - i.e. none. My sister has developed a new response: the GOP never got over the election of Obama, so why should we get over the “election” of Trump?

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teleskiguy  Apr 24, 2018 • 6:57:48pm

Damn. Facebook is pernicious with their sharing of the content you’ve given them.

Gal who took this picture of me nine years ago today has struggled for years now with drug addiction, haven’t heard from her since 2015.

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BeachDem  Apr 24, 2018 • 6:58:08pm

re: #11 Brian J.

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gocart mozart  Apr 24, 2018 • 6:59:19pm

Trying to pick out the stars; Elvis, Jackson Brown, Bruce, Bonny Raitt, k.D. lange (I think) …who am I missing

Roy Orbison - Oh, Pretty Woman (from Black & White Night)

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 24, 2018 • 6:59:37pm

re: #12 gocart mozart

Democratic Sen. Jon Tester says embattled Veterans Affairs nominee Ronny Jackson was known for handing out prescriptions “like candy,” adding that “in the White House they call him the candy man” cnn.it
8:08 PM - Apr 24, 2018
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How long has Jackson been doing that? Under Bush? Under Obama?

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:06:53pm

re: #7 gocart mozart

Black Entertainers should boycott any state which celebrates slavery. Black business groups should refuse to hold conferences in such states as well.

I was in Mobile for work last year and it seemed like a diverse, modern city but the fact that it’s in a state that celebrates slaveholders is disturbing to say the least.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:10:43pm

re: #10 lawhawk

I so hope that Cynthia Nixon dethrones Cuomo. I hope he doesn’t run for President anytime soon. He’s not a progressive by any stretch of the imagination.

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austin_blue  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:12:37pm

One Dallas station reporting that a female Dallas Police officer has died of a gunshot wound to the head and another male Officer, also w/ a head wound, is in critical condition.

Purported gunman was reportedly detained for shoplifting at a Home Depot when police arrived and the shooting occurred.

Somebody fucked the dog, big time.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:14:51pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:15:11pm

Promoted from earlier thread:
re: #155 gocart mozart

Interesting stuff. I didn’t know about the connection between Joe Coors and James Watt, though I did know about Coors and Ailes, Gorsuch, etc.
Watt was a batshit Evangelical mole in government before most people knew about batshit Evangelicals.

Watt periodically mentioned his Dispensationalist Christian faith when discussing his method of environmental management. Speaking before Congress, he once said, “I do not know how many future generations we can count on before the Lord returns, whatever it is we have to manage with a skill to leave the resources needed for future generations.”

He also banned the Beach Boys and the Grass Roots from the July 4th National Mall concert on the grounds that they attracted “the wrong element.” He substituted Wayne Newton.
(In Watts’ defense, even Newton could be controversial to some right wingers. Singapore strongman Lee Kuan Yew once banned Newton from that country for being “a long-haired hippie.” Newton dutifully got his hair cut and was readily admitted. Lee, interestingly enough, was agnostic.)

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MsJ  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:15:12pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:15:46pm

re: #25 MsJ

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Jesus.

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makeitstop  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:19:10pm

re: #25 MsJ

Per CNN, Ronnie Jackson got drunk on an overseas trip and banged on the door of a female White House staffer. It got so bad, that a member of President Obama’s Secret Service Detail had to intervene.

Doesn’t Trump have a problem with drinkers? Or is he letting that slide in the name of pwning libs?

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BeachDem  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:22:09pm

re: #17 gocart mozart

Trying to pick out the stars; Elvis, Jackson Brown, Bruce, Bonny Raitt, k.D. lange (I think) …who am I missing

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I spy JD Souther. Hadn’t thought of him in ages.

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Belafon  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:23:44pm

re: #27 makeitstop

Doesn’t Trump have a problem with drinkers? Or is he letting that slide in the name of pwning libs?

I’m pretty sure it was Jackson praising his fitness.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:24:47pm

re: #29 Belafon

I’m pretty sure it was Jackson praising his fitness.

You won’t convince me that Trump chose Mattis for reasons other than the Mad Dog moniker.

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calochortus  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:25:43pm

re: #29 Belafon

I’m pretty sure it was Jackson praising his fitness.

I understand he’s really likeable in person. Presumably when he isn’t drinking…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:30:21pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:31:36pm
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DodgerFan1988  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:31:47pm

Triggered Snowflakes

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calochortus  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:32:12pm

re: #32 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I think it’s obvious-Michelle’s shoulders are inappropriately bare, whereas Melania is being properly modest and classy with a shoulder strap.
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gocart mozart  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:34:12pm
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austin_blue  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:34:19pm

re: #28 BeachDem

I spy JD Souther. Hadn’t thought of him in ages.

Souther, Hillman, Furay!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:35:09pm
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DodgerFan1988  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:35:56pm

re: #36 gocart mozart

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Tomi admitting Blacks Lives Don’t Matter, showing her true bigoted nature.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:36:10pm

re: #36 gocart mozart

Toompa Loompa’s eyebrows match her roots.

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gocart mozart  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:36:12pm
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austin_blue  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:40:05pm

Perp has apparently been arrested in Dallas. Now they just have to figure out who lost control of a weapon.

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gocart mozart  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:40:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:41:21pm

re: #34 DodgerFan1988

Triggered Snowflakes

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DACA isn’t illegal just because you imbred assholes say it is.

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stpaulbear  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:41:32pm

I’ll take “They Never Read Anything” for $300, Alex.

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gocart mozart  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:41:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:41:55pm

re: #43 gocart mozart

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Ha!

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makeitstop  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:43:08pm

re: #36 gocart mozart

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That makeup.

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gocart mozart  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:43:54pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:43:56pm

re: #43 gocart mozart

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:44:58pm

re: #49 gocart mozart

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A lot of people thought Bill Cosby was a “fine man” for a long time too. And yeah nearly every Obama staffer has said that he was unqualified for VA but nice try.

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BeachDem  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:46:09pm

re: #37 austin_blue

Souther, Hillman, Furay!

Love, Love, Love!

I don’t have the albums anymore, but somewhere there are cassette tapes that I should pull out (which will probably disintegrate once I put them in the player.) Sigh.

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Belafon  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:48:07pm

re: #51 HappyWarrior

A lot of people thought Bill Cosby was a “fine man” for a long time too. And yeah nearly every Obama staffer has said that he was unqualified for VA but nice try.

My dad’s a fine man. He shouldn’t run the VA, though, and he’d turn it down if offered.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:49:08pm

re: #53 Belafon

My dad’s a fine man. He shouldn’t run the VA, though, and he’d turn it down if offered.

Exactly. Jackson was unqualified before this all came out.

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austin_blue  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:56:37pm

re: #54 HappyWarrior

Exactly. Jackson was unqualified before this all came out.

And Trump’s hubris has ruined him (Welp, Jackson didn’t do himself any favors.).

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calochortus  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:57:06pm

re: #55 austin_blue

And Trump’s hubris has ruined him (Welp, Jackson didn’t do himself any favors.).

Everything Trump touches…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:58:19pm

re: #56 calochortus

Everything Trump touches…

Reverse Midas. Everything and one he touches turns to shit.

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makeitstop  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:58:33pm
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Ace-o-aces  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:59:40pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 24, 2018 • 7:59:42pm

This is the most dramatic and dangerous demonstration of raw incompetence in modern history. Ed Wood was a better film maker than Trump is President

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:01:02pm

re: #59 Ace-o-aces

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JFC they couldn’t be any more obvious. Really just close FNC down. It’s nothing but a propaganda outlet.

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electrotek  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:01:25pm

These are the types of wingnuts I deal with on my FB:

And I’m not even going to bother covering the name:

And he has yet to delete the post.

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Brian J.  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:01:36pm

The early results from Arizona are in and it looks like the good guys are going to come up just a little short.

Debbie Lesko (R) 82,294 (53%)
Hiral Tipirmeni (D) 73,188 (47%)

recorder.maricopa.gov

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:02:08pm

FNC can’t go one day without blaming the Dems and Obama.

Rupert can’t get off? Obama’s fault.

Hannity’s a hypocritical crook? Obama.

O’Reilly’s a sick son of a bitch who shouldn’t be near women? BILL CLINTON.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:02:49pm

re: #62 electrotek

These are the types of wingnuts I deal with on my FB:

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That dude’s a fucking moron. First for the “how long until the media stops covering it” and then the Islamic part.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:03:06pm

re: #63 Brian J.

The early results from Arizona are in and it looks like the good guys are going to come up just a little short.

Debbie Lesko (R) 82,294 (53%)
Hiral Tipirmeni (D) 73,188 (47%)

Bummer but I imagine it’s a lot closer than it’s been in the past.

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Brian J.  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:04:41pm

re: #66 HappyWarrior

Bummer but I imagine it’s a lot closer than it’s been in the past.

Hillary lost the district by 21 points, Obama by 25. So yeah.

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calochortus  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:04:51pm

re: #62 electrotek

These are the types of wingnuts I deal with on my FB:

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Freepers had a hard time dragging themselves away from the Islamic terrorism thing yesterday, but they mostly managed to do so. This guy sounds like a real gem.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:05:03pm

re: #67 Brian J.

Hillary lost the district by 21 points, Obama by 25. So yeah.

Big swing.

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BeachDem  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:08:05pm

re: #66 HappyWarrior

Bummer but I imagine it’s a lot closer than it’s been in the past.

One of the graphics is a “shift in margin” map—so far, all blue. (but granted, a whole lot of ground to make up)

nytimes.com

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electrotek  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:09:40pm

re: #68 calochortus

Freepers had a hard time dragging themselves away from the Islamic terrorism thing yesterday, but they mostly managed to do so. This guy sounds like a real gem.

At least the post only had 2 “likes”, which is saying a lot.

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BeachDem  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:12:37pm

re: #67 Brian J.

Hillary lost the district by 21 points, Obama by 25. So yeah.

Wonder if this has had any effect on the election:

Roughly 140,000 Maricopa County voters have not received ID cards, potentially leaving eligible voters in Tuesday’s special congressional election unaware that they can cast a ballot.

County election officials said they haven’t sent cards out since December, blaming a printing delay.

azcentral.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:14:09pm

re: #67 Brian J.

Hillary lost the district by 21 points, Obama by 25. So yeah.

Trent Fucking Franks’ district.

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jaunte  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:15:10pm

re: #49 gocart mozart

So we are just gonna drag this man that to everyone’s knowledge, including President Obama, was an excellent doctor and fine man?

How about we drag him for lying to the entire nation about Trump’s height, weight and health, and point out that he hasn’t got the experience for the job?

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MsJ  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:17:23pm
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makeitstop  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:18:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:19:17pm

re: #75 MsJ

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Because the Buck stops with Obama in this administration.

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gocart mozart  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:23:55pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:27:00pm
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fern01  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:27:31pm

re: #63 Brian J.

The early results from Arizona are in and it looks like the good guys are going to come up just a little short.

Debbie Lesko (R) 82,294 (53%)
Hiral Tipirmeni (D) 73,188 (47%)

recorder.maricopa.gov

For a +20 +21 trump district GOP +6 looks good for the dems. The number of pre-election GOP voters was way ahead of the dems.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:27:55pm

Half-mast notice for Canada:

From April 24, 2018 until further notice
Occasion :
In memory of the victims of the tragic events that took place in Toronto, Ontario on April 23, 2018.
Masting location(s):
The flag on the Peace Tower in Ottawa
Additional details:

As per the Rules for Half-masting the National Flag of Canada (section 16)

canada.pch.gc.ca

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:28:08pm

re: #60 Unshaken Defiance

This is the most dramatic and dangerous demonstration of raw incompetence in modern history. Ed Wood was a better film maker than Trump is President

Compared to Trump, Ed Wood is Orson Welles.

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stpaulbear  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:28:18pm

re: #78 gocart mozart

Hipsters posing ironically couldn’t even top that picture.

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fern01  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:29:00pm

re: #72 BeachDem

Wonder if this has had any effect on the election:

Roughly 140,000 Maricopa County voters have not received ID cards, potentially leaving eligible voters in Tuesday’s special congressional election unaware that they can cast a ballot.

County election officials said they haven’t sent cards out since December, blaming a printing delay.

azcentral.com

If they can’t win fair - the republicans find another way

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jaunte  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:32:17pm
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wheat-dogg  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:39:15pm

re: #78 gocart mozart

Oh. My.

First time I saw Melania’s “dress.”

Unflattering doesn’t even begin to describe it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:41:24pm

re: #84 fern01

If they can’t win fair - the republicans find another way

The Republican goal is to disenfranchise every potential Democratic voter wherever possible. They have betrayed their oath of office on a daily basis, and that’s even before considering their loyalty to Putin.

After all, isn’t John Conyers seat still unfilled because the criminal governor of Michigan refused to allow a special election?

—ed to correct minor errors

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MsJ  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:42:42pm
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MsJ  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:49:21pm

I hate people.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:50:04pm

Needed some summer car washing supplies. Some chemical guys honeydew foam soap and a foam cannon. For once I didn’t forget to use Charles’ Amazon affiliate link.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:52:44pm

re: #89 MsJ

I hate people.

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Why does an EPA admin need an enforcer? Drain the swamp huh.

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Single-handed sailor  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:56:25pm

I’m obviously not stoned enough for tonight’s episode of Legion. I’m going to rectify that and restart the episode.

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electrotek  Apr 24, 2018 • 8:57:50pm

Claims to be a US Army vet:

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 24, 2018 • 9:09:48pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 24, 2018 • 9:12:40pm

re: #62 electrotek

These are the types of wingnuts I deal with on my FB:

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You aren’t alone. I have family members posting the same propaganda…

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 24, 2018 • 9:13:35pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2018 • 9:16:03pm

re: #96 Anymouse 🌹

Awesome gesture and I want a spacesuit for my niece!

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 24, 2018 • 9:19:38pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

Awesome gesture and I want a spacesuit for my niece!

It was quite a gesture, and quite a statement on courage from the seven year-old girl.

Naturally, that means Mark Kelly’s thread is filling up with conservaderp

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2018 • 9:26:28pm

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹

It was quite a gesture, and quite a statement on courage from the seven year-old girl.

Naturally, that means Mark Kelly’s thread is filling up with conservaderp

I’m sure he’s used to it.

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MsJ  Apr 24, 2018 • 9:28:43pm

LOL

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 24, 2018 • 9:32:25pm

re: #17 gocart mozart

I notice Tom Waits on piano and backup vocals.

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austin_blue  Apr 24, 2018 • 9:33:57pm

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹

It was quite a gesture, and quite a statement on courage from the seven year-old girl.

Naturally, that means Mark Kelly’s thread is filling up with conservaderp

Many moons ago, back when there were UseNet boards, back when Mosaic had just been released, one of my favorites was about Barney called (as I recall) Die Purple Dinosaur, Die! Die! Die! in which parents (mostly men) railed against the influence over which The Beast had on their children.

It was hilarious!

We need a board like that about The Poo Flinging Mango Shit Gibbon.

Because it’s not hilarious any more. It’s deadly serious.

I’m out, night all, sweet scaly dreams.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 24, 2018 • 9:46:11pm

re: #102 austin_blue

Well, Usenet is still around but not quite as popular as it was.

There are many newsreaders available (pretty much all commercial now).

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 24, 2018 • 9:47:31pm
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mmmirele  Apr 24, 2018 • 9:49:30pm

Sekrits, but not of a political type…

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whitebeach  Apr 24, 2018 • 9:49:37pm

re: #95 Joe Bacon 🌹

You aren’t alone. I have family members posting the same propaganda…

I truly do think that this is what it must have felt like to be an actually good German circa 1932.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 24, 2018 • 9:52:33pm

Did not know this until today.

Elliot Rodger, the 2014 Chula Vista “incel” killer, was the grandson of British photo-journalist George Rodger, who took the renowned, and horrific, Life Magazine images of the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp at the end of World War II. George died on Elliot’s 4th birthday, July 24th 1994.
George’s son, and Elliot’s father, is Hollywood director Peter Rodger.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 24, 2018 • 9:56:52pm

thehill.com

Democrats flipped the NY state senate. The GOP will continue to control it in the lame-duck session ending in June.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 24, 2018 • 9:59:03pm

re: #107 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Did not know this until today.

Elliot Rodger, the 2014 Chula Vista “incel” killer, was the grandson of British photo-journalist George Rodger, who took the renowned, and horrific, Life Magazine images of the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp at the end of World War II. George died on Elliot’s 4th birthday, July 24th 1994.
George’s son, and Elliot’s father, is Hollywood director Peter Rodger.

Huh. The only Rodger with a “d” that I knew (before Elliot) was N. A. M. Wonder if he’s related too?

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 24, 2018 • 10:03:52pm

Not even trying to hide their corruption or disdain for everyone who is not obscenely wealthy:

Mulvaney to bankers: Campaign donations will help limit consumer bureau’s power (The Hill):

Mulvaney to bankers: Campaign donations will help limit consumer bureau’s power
(c) Greg Nash

Mick Mulvaney, the interim director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB), told bankers and lobbyists on Tuesday that they should give more campaign contributions if they want to weaken the powers of the bureau he runs, The New York Times reported.

Mulvaney told more than a thousand bankers and lobbyists at an American Bankers Association conference in Washington that when he was a congressman he only talked to lobbyists that had given him money, according to the Times.

For Mulvaney, trying to sway legislators through donations is one of the “fundamental underpinnings of our representative democracy,” the Times reported.

(If by “representative democracy” you mean “money votes.” More at the link)

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whitebeach  Apr 24, 2018 • 10:08:47pm

re: #100 MsJ

LOL

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I’m not into fashion, so I won’t comment on any individual outfit, but my question is why do people, male and female, dress in this ridiculous garb and why do people respect it? It looks like some bad Gilbert and Sullivan thing with the clothes slightly updated. I’d actually rather, god help me, see Trump in his golf togs, Macron in bistro gear, Melania in sweats, and Macron’s lady in, well, maybe whatever Parisian girls are wearing on their way to work, which I bet isn’t all-white.

And the Donald also appears to have really small feet for a man of his bulk.

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MsJ  Apr 24, 2018 • 10:09:05pm

The Nashville shooter’s bind had been revoked due to community outrage.

newschannel5.com

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MsJ  Apr 24, 2018 • 10:12:26pm

re: #111 whitebeach

I like fashion. I can appreciate some of it. That hat was silly as was the tent Melania wrote today for whatever that tree planting thing was about.

Then there’s this. Ugh.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 24, 2018 • 10:25:29pm

Conservative politicians (NSFW for coarse language):

Bring The Gold

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 24, 2018 • 10:27:25pm

re: #113 MsJ

I like fashion. I can appreciate some of it. That hat was silly as was the tent Melania wrote today for whatever that tree planting thing was about.

Then there’s this. Ugh.

I like polka-dot dresses (well, not for myself, for my wife). Not a big fan of that pattern though.

(My wife prefers giant polka-dots or disco dots)

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BeachDem  Apr 24, 2018 • 10:28:15pm

re: #113 MsJ

I like fashion. I can appreciate some of it. That hat was silly as was the tent Melania wrote today for whatever that tree planting thing was about.

Then there’s this. Ugh.

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$14,600 for that toilet paper cover.

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MsJ  Apr 24, 2018 • 10:29:56pm

re: #116 BeachDem

$14,600 for that toilet paper cover.

You’re joking.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 24, 2018 • 10:30:37pm

re: #113 MsJ

I like fashion. I can appreciate some of it. That hat was silly as was the tent Melania wrote today for whatever that tree planting thing was about.

Then there’s this. Ugh.

Oh God @ Jethrine Bodine down the thread. LMAO….

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 24, 2018 • 10:31:05pm

LOL, Photoshop to the rescue …

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BeachDem  Apr 24, 2018 • 10:33:26pm

re: #117 MsJ

You’re joking.

Ivanka pulls out all the stops in $14,600 gown as her dad hosts French President Emmanuel Macron

dailymail.co.uk

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whitebeach  Apr 24, 2018 • 10:34:13pm

re: #113 MsJ

I like fashion. I can appreciate some of it. That hat was silly as was the tent Melania wrote today for whatever that tree planting thing was about.

Then there’s this. Ugh.

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Again, I don’t know jack about it, but it looks to me as if Melania is wearing stuff as close to armor, complete with helmet, as she can get. As for Ivanka, I don’t know what to say. Is the theme supposed to be the Challenger disaster or something?

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BeachDem  Apr 24, 2018 • 10:37:29pm

Also, gotta say that whenever I see a pic of Uncle Rupert with Jerry Hall (they were there too, and Jerry had on a blue dress), all I can think of is Tracey Ullman doing Jerry Hall.

Tracey Ullman - Jerry Hall and Rupert Murdoch

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MsJ  Apr 24, 2018 • 10:46:11pm

re: #120 BeachDem

Ivanka pulls out all the stops in $14,600 gown as her dad hosts French President Emmanuel Macron

dailymail.co.uk

Comments at the Daily Fail are unkind to her.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 24, 2018 • 10:53:41pm

Teen who made racist proposal sign in Florida for his school prom will not be attending the prom or graduation, according to the school and his parents.

huffingtonpost.com (caution, autoplay video)

A Florida high school student whose offensive “promposal” went viral for all the wrong reasons won’t be going to prom or graduation.

This past weekend, 18-year-old Noah Crowley, a student at Riverview High School in Sarasota, asked a fellow student to the prom via a Snapchat photo in which he held up a sign saying: “If I was black, I’d be picking cotton, but I’m white so I’m picking u 4 prom?”

Although the intended recipient sent Crowley a heart-eyed emoji, she may have to find another date.

Crowley’s parents released a statement to HuffPost on Tuesday afternoon saying their son will not be attending any school activities for the rest of the year:

“While our son has apologized himself, on behalf of our family, we wish to also express our most sincere apologies for the terrible words used in his ‘promposal.’

“We love our son dearly and know that he is a far better person than reflected in this reckless behavior. That said, as loving parents, we also feel compelled to share our own deep regret and serious concern about his actions.

“After numerous familial conversations and lengthy discussions with Riverview High School administrators, we have jointly agreed that our son will not be attending any further school activities or functions, including the Prom or graduation ceremony.

“As a family, we truly recognize this incident is a very difficult but important life lesson and pledge to do all we can to ensure that nothing like this ever happens again. Certainly, we hope that all of the people and communities who were hurt and offended will forgive our son and family.”

(more)

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whitebeach  Apr 24, 2018 • 10:53:43pm

re: #122 BeachDem

Also, gotta say that whenever I see a pic of Uncle Rupert with Jerry Hall (they were there too, and Jerry had on a blue dress), all I can think of is Tracey Ullman doing Jerry Hall.

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It must have been thirty years since I first saw Tracey Ullman. She was then and is now a genius.

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Single-handed sailor  Apr 24, 2018 • 10:54:50pm

re: #123 MsJ

Comments at the Daily Fail are unkind to her.

She’s doing what she has to do to fulfill her contract. There’s a big bonus payout if she completes the full agreed term.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 24, 2018 • 10:56:27pm

re: #125 whitebeach

It must have been thirty years since I first saw Tracey Ullman. She was then and is now a genius.

The Simpsons began as a between-sketches filler on The Tracy Ullman Show.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 24, 2018 • 11:03:42pm

re: #127 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The Simpsons began as a between-sketches filler on The Tracy Ullman Show.

And before that, Bart as a character in the comic strip “Life is Hell.”

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BeachDem  Apr 24, 2018 • 11:07:12pm

re: #123 MsJ

Comments at the Daily Fail are unkind to her.

And Millie Bobby Brown wore it already—of course, she’s 14, so it kinda looks cute.

(Kirsten Dunst wore it as well, but we won’t even go there.)
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BeachDem  Apr 24, 2018 • 11:11:15pm

re: #125 whitebeach

It must have been thirty years since I first saw Tracey Ullman. She was then and is now a genius.

Yes, she is. When I saw the first episode of her latest show, which was on HBO last year, I her Judy Dench was so incredible, I thought she’d started having guest stars, but nope—just the brilliant Tracey.

Dame Judi Dench causes havoc - Tracey Ullman’s Show: Episode 1 Preview - BBC One

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 24, 2018 • 11:11:56pm

Lord shoot me if I ever spend almost $15 000 on a piece of clothing.

I’d rather have a car, a cruise, a shed, a new games room etc, etc.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 24, 2018 • 11:17:10pm

re: #131 Eclectic Cyborg

Lord shoot me if I ever spend almost $15 000 on a piece of clothing.

I’d rather have a car, a cruise, a shed, a new games room etc, etc.

Carver 350s and some kick-ass speakers.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 24, 2018 • 11:21:28pm

re: #131 Eclectic Cyborg

Lord shoot me if I ever spend almost $15 000 on a piece of clothing.

I’d rather have a car, a cruise, a shed, a new games room etc, etc.

That’s as much as we spent on our house. Dayum.

It’s a shame the Ariz. special election went to the GOP, but the margin was close in a district that is overwhelmingly Republican pretty much means no “safe” Red seat is really safe any more (particularly since they spent so much money on this race).

Ya can’t win all of them, but we’re winning a lot of them.

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2018 • 11:26:43pm

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹

That’s as much as we spent on our house. Dayum.

It’s a shame the Ariz. special election went to the GOP, but the margin was close in a district that is overwhelmingly Republican pretty much means no “safe” Red seat is really safe any more (particularly since they spent so much money on this race).

Ya can’t win all of them, but we’re winning a lot of them.

It’s another Pyrrhic victory, which the GOP cannot afford too many over in November. Nearly a million dollars spent on a seat that, in any other year, would be considered “nice” to win but not a bellwether. The wingnuts will insist that this is a “huge win” for them, but any Republicans in purple or blue districts are presently shitting their pants.

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BeachDem  Apr 24, 2018 • 11:28:24pm

re: #134 Targetpractice

It’s another Pyrrhic victory, which the GOP cannot afford too many over in November. Nearly a million dollars spent on a seat that, in any other year, would be considered “nice” to win but not a bellwether. The wingnuts will insist that this is a “huge win” for them, but any Republicans in purple or blue districts are presently shitting their pants.

First you lose big, then you lose small, then you win small, then you win big and tell the GOP to eat a bag of dicks.

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Single-handed sailor  Apr 24, 2018 • 11:31:05pm

re: #132 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Carver 350s and some kick-ass speakers.

I have some solid state Carver amps. have you ever seen a JBL L-150 send it’s woofer out 2”. I’ll miss those speakers. Guess I shouldn’t have turned it up to 11.

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Single-handed sailor  Apr 24, 2018 • 11:32:34pm

re: #136 Single-handed sailor

I have some solid state Carver amps. Have you ever seen a JBL L-150 send it’s woofer out 2”? I’ll miss those speakers. Guess I shouldn’t have turned it up to 11.

I blame The Who.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 24, 2018 • 11:39:23pm

Alliance, Chadron, Grand Island, Hastings, Holdrege, Kearney, Lincoln, McCook, Norfolk, North Platte, O’Neill, Omaha, Peru, Scottsbluff, Wayne (cities in Nebraska where protests have been registered should the maladministration move to fire Robert Mueller).

Scottsbluff and Alliance are the closest to me. (The Scottsbluff protest would be at Sen. Ben Sasse’s office, the Alliance protest has fewer people committed to attend but is also a much smaller town.)

trumpisnotabovethelaw.org
(page with search for nearest protest and information how to register a new one)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 24, 2018 • 11:40:11pm

re: #41 gocart mozart

Why the heck did the White House send around this 2012 inspector general report on Ronny Jackson if they were trying to defend him??

Because that was back in 2012, to us what matters is the FUTURE!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 24, 2018 • 11:47:39pm

re: #136 Single-handed sailor

I have some solid state Carver amps. have you ever seen a JBL L-150 send it’s woofer out 2”. I’ll miss those speakers. Guess I shouldn’t have turned it up to 11.

I used to have a Carver AVR-100, so yeah. What he calls the Magnetic Field Ampifier (which is really a switching power supply that follows the input) is a must-have for me. Keep scanning Craigslist for one I can afford….

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meteor  Apr 24, 2018 • 11:49:22pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:01:32am

starherald.com

My state senator (NE-47) complaining about the legislative session in Lincoln not getting much done.

He’s a nice enough fellow (I know him and have met him several times), but as I recall, it’s his political party that controls the Unicameral.

(I considered running against him, but I can’t afford to be a state legislator. It pays far too little to maintain a residence four hundred miles away.)

The abortion thing he’s talking about in the opening paragraphs? The just-passed state budget prohibits using Federal funds to support any medical facility which offers abortions or provides referrals to clinics which do. (I’m guessing that is going to get challenged in court.)

The effect of that part of the state budget is to bully medical providers out of that service or offering referrals for it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:17:18am

Mike Pompeo, Trump’s Sec State Nominee, Would Like His Jesus-Times Apocalypse NOW (Wonkette)

They note Mikey Weinstein of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation went on The Young Turks (Wonkette is not fans of TYT) to note that his organisation has received several complaints against Pompeo, doing things like leading Bible studies during working hours, commenting that we are in a “religious war” between Christianity and Islam (leave me out of that, thanks), &c.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:26:28am

The Religious Right has been insinuating its people into all levels of public life for decades now, we have seen what they are doing in education and public administration, and the military is another sphere where they have gained a great deal of influence.

Mike Pence represents the summit of their efforts, they have their man one heartbeat (or one conviction) away from the Presidency.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:39:30am

re: #144 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Religious Right has been insinuating its people into all levels of public life for decades now, we have seen what they are doing in education and public administration, and the military is another sphere where they have gained a great deal of influence.

Mike Pence represents the summit of their efforts, they have their man one heartbeat (or one conviction) away from the Presidency.

That is, if he doesn’t go down with Trump (or on state charges about misuse of his own and his wife’s AOL E-mail accounts to avoid state record keeping laws).

Besides I thought this happened yesterday:

Blondie - Rapture

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:43:15am

re: #145 Anymouse 🌹

That is, if he doesn’t go down with Trump (or on state charges about misuse of his own and his wife’s AOL E-mail accounts to avoid state record keeping laws).

Yes, there is no point in removing Trump unless we root out the whole nest. That would leave Speaker of the House next in line and with Paul Ryan stepping down, who would that be?

PS:

The Rapture happened but nobody made the cut.

There is also a Jewish tradition that the Messiah will come the day that the first Jew manages to get through a whole day without violating one of the rules of the Torah.

So that means that the Jews still haven’t learned to live by their own rules yet.
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Single-handed sailor  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:45:22am

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, there is no point in removing Trump unless we root out the whole nest. That would leave Speaker of the House next in line and with Paul Ryan stepping down, who would that be?
/

Nancy Pelosi after 2018.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:48:11am

re: #147 Single-handed sailor

Nancy Pelosi after 2018.

I would not mind seeing that, but that is still a ways off…

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Single-handed sailor  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:56:03am

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I would not mind seeing that, but that is still a ways off…

So is impeachment and conviction.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:06:09am

Via E-mail:

ACTION ALERT: Keep taxpayer dollars out of unaccountable, private religious schools
Members of Congress recently introduced the Military Education Savings Accounts Act (HR 5199 / S. 2517), which would create a private school voucher program for students with an active-duty parent in the military. We expect to see efforts in the next few weeks to attach this bill to must-pass legislation that funds the military (the National Defense Authorization Act). We need you to take action to urge your Members of Congress to oppose adding vouchers to the defense authorization bill.

This bill will hurt the very students it claims to help. The program will drain Impact Aid funding, which is designed to support the public schools that serve military-connected students, in order to pay for vouchers at private religious schools that lack basic accountability. These schools can deprive students of their First Amendment rights and protections, they can discriminate against students with disabilities, and they can teach a faith-based curriculum. Our service members’ children deserve better.

Taxpayers should not be compelled to pay for private religious schools! Contact your Members of Congress today and tell them you want them to oppose any proposal that would create a private school voucher plan for military students. Help keep public money in public schools.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:07:55am

I used to think that Google News’ reliance on algorithmic story promotion had real potential to promote & curate pure unbiased journalism. What a fucking fool I was.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:14:02am

re: #151 goddamnedfrank

Google pushing Change petitions as “news” doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, unless someone there is (intentionally or unintentionally) rodent-copulating their system.

By the way, Frank, I like your pinned tweet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:14:15am

re: #149 Single-handed sailor

So is impeachment and conviction.

much farther off

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:16:28am
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Single-handed sailor  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:17:47am

re: #151 goddamnedfrank

I used to think that Google News’ reliance on algorithmic story promotion had real potential to promote & curate pure unbiased journalism. What a fucking fool I was.

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Neither Boolean logic nor math have any moral values.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:18:18am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

much farther off

Taking at least one of the houses of Congress will definitely slow down the crap though.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:29:53am

re: #155 Single-handed sailor

Neither Boolean logic nor math have any moral values.

I know but I figured they’d at least have some basic criteria about what sites even qualify as offering real news to begin with. Then I saw that they were putting flaming dogshit like Breitbart and Gateway Pundit right alongside legit newspapers like the NYT and Washington Post. The whole operation is just one big false equivalence engine now.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:52:38am

The golf club which called the cops on a group of African-American women for “playing too slow” (a complaint I’ve never heard about golf) according to a white guy behind them (who claimed he was an owner of the club, he was not), just walked back their apology and went into CYA and blame-the-victim mode. We’ll see how that works out for them since one of the women works for the ACLU:

Grandview currently has 2400 members. In the past players who have not followed the rules, specifically pace of play, have voluntarily left at our request as our scorecard states. In this instance, the members refused to leave so we called police to ensure an amicable result. The members did skip holes and took an extended break after the 9th hole. We spoke with them once about pace of play and then spoke with them a second time. During the second conversation we asked members to leave as per our policy noted on the scorecard, voices escalated, and police were called to ensure an amicable resolution.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:53:36am

re: #158 Anymouse 🌹

Left out the link:
wonkette.com

They also go after the woman who was manhandled and stripped by the cops in a Waffle House for daring to ask for plasticware while black.

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Kragar  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:05:56am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:10:15am

re: #160 Kragar

I guess “incel” is an easy shorthand for “Needledick losers whose corrosive personality keeps anyone from wanting to form any sort of relationship with them”, but its not nearly as satisfying to use in conversation.

It follows a great tradition of elevating personality flaws into personal ideology.

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Kragar  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:12:23am
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:14:39am

re: #130 BeachDem

I love Ullman’s Angela Merkel. It’s spot on

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:16:00am

re: #162 Kragar

If you ever find yourself saying “Hitler was right”, you need to seriously examine your life and figure out when exactly you became a complete idiot.

Hitler was right on:

“Autobahns are a great way to move traffic!”

“Paid vacations for workers are a great idea!”

“A vegetarian diet is healthy!”

“VW Beetles are awesome, we should all drive one!”

…and nothing else.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:19:07am

re: #158 Anymouse 🌹

How do you get from playing golf too slowly to the police must be called? What nonsense.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:21:58am

re: #165 Patricia Kayden

How do you get from playing golf too slowly to the police must be called? What nonsense.

The same way that fellow got to be “owner” of the club…

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:33:42am

re: #165 Patricia Kayden

How do you get from playing golf too slowly to the police must be called? What nonsense.

On the second hole, while keeping pace with the party ahead. That means the white guys who called the cops had just finished their first fucking hole when they decided these black women ahead of them needed to be kicked off the course.

It had nothing whatsoever to do with slow play, it was all about them reacting at the mere sight of black women.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:35:20am

re: #167 goddamnedfrank

On the second hole, while keeping pace with the party ahead. That means the white guys who called the cops had just finished their first fucking hole when they decided these black women ahead of them needed to be kicked off the course.

It had nothing whatsoever to do with slow play, it was all about them reacting at the mere sight of black women.

whatever happened to “May we play through?”

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Lupin  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:06:51am

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Hitler was right on:

“Paid vacations for workers are a great idea!”

Yeah but the paid vacations should not include trips abroad.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:10:10am

re: #169 Lupin

Yeah but the paid vacations should not include trips abroad.

“Ve musst occupy ze sunbeds by 0600!!!”

(I saw this on a British T-shirt featuring a German Panzer commander)

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:21:28am

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

whatever happened to “May we play through?”

That’s reserved for white men, apparently.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:23:00am

re: #171 Anymouse 🌹

That’s reserved for white men, apparently.

they could have pretended they were Marching Through Georgia…

/

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:28:06am

LOL what the fuck? How the hell does this mayor think telling businesses they need to close early is the answer to her city’s crime problem? Businesses close when it stops being profitable for them to be open. Also, some people get off work late, need to shop for shit and don’t have great transportation options. You’re the mayor of a major city, act like you’ve been there before.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:32:37am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:11:15am

re: #173 goddamnedfrank

LOL what the fuck? How the hell does this mayor think telling businesses they need to close early is the answer to her city’s crime problem? Businesses close when it stops being profitable for them to be open. Also, some people get off work late, need to shop for shit and don’t have great transportation options. You’re the mayor of a major city, act like you’ve been there before.

so it seems guns are bad for the local retail business…

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:31:14am

re: #138 Anymouse 🌹

[snip]

trumpisnotabovethelaw.org
(page with search for nearest protest and information how to register a new one)

Last I checked, Meadville PA was the closest to me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:38:51am

Why do we need the President of Iran to tell us what the GOP refuses to recognize?

Iran nuclear deal: Rouhani says West has no right to make changes

…Mr Rouhani … dismissed US President Donald Trump as a “tradesman” not qualified to comment on global treaties.

“You don’t have any background in politics,” he said. “You don’t have any background in law. You don’t have any background on international treaties.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 25, 2018 • 5:02:55am

I’m gonna hit the rack … I need to go into town later. Groceries won’t shop themselves.

Catch y’all later.

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I cannot.  Apr 25, 2018 • 5:20:09am

re: #177 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He’s not even a tradesman. A low-rent conman with an expensive, yet tasteless schtick.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 5:25:39am

re: #179 I cannot.

He’s not even a tradesman. A low-rent conman with an expensive, yet tasteless schtick.

I think that was a bad translation of “businessman”.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 25, 2018 • 5:51:14am

re: #162 Kragar

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Reported Mr. Ed and his sleazy anti-Semitic tweets.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 25, 2018 • 5:51:54am

he is sad…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 25, 2018 • 5:52:19am

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 25, 2018 • 5:53:55am
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Sir John Barron  Apr 25, 2018 • 5:55:44am

re: #162 Kragar

he was right on many levels.

“OK, let’s say he orchestrated the intentional torture and systematic murder of 6 million+ Jews and was responsible for killing millions more Russians and Poles, but look, he was right on many levels.”

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jeffreyw  Apr 25, 2018 • 5:58:24am

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Good morning!

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Sir John Barron  Apr 25, 2018 • 5:58:50am

re: #158 Anymouse 🌹

The golf club which called the cops on a group of African-American women for “playing too slow” (a complaint I’ve never heard about golf) according to a white guy behind them (who claimed he was an owner of the club, he was not), just walked back their apology and went into CYA and blame-the-victim mode. We’ll see how that works out for them since one of the women works for the ACLU:

If there’s anything we know about golf, it’s that it is a game played at warp speed so everyone can get back home to do the chores.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 5:59:58am

re: #162 Kragar

The truth is, whether you agree with Hitler’s actions or not, he was right on many levels.

and I am pretty sure he convinced that most of those “levels” involve race and the relative superiority of one particular race above the others and above all the necessity to exterminate one particular race as a threat to the Master Race

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William Lewis  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:03:29am

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Rapture happened but nobody made the cut.

This is something I’ve often thought.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:04:25am

re: #189 William Lewis

This is something I’ve often thought.

Jesus came, Jesus wept, Jesus headed back home to dell dad what a mess it was…

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William Lewis  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:06:25am

re: #190 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Jesus came, Jesus wept, Jesus headed back home to dell dad what a mess it was…

That or Dostoevsky (“The Grand Inquisitor”) was right…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:07:09am

Hitler was right on many levels? Yeah I’m going to stop you there. Sigh the mainstreaming of Hitler’s ideas were right, he just didn’t execute them well disturbs the shit outta me. I know this is just some Twitter tool but damn.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:10:11am

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Rapture happened but nobody made the cut.

I see no untruth in this.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:16:46am

Todays “Hitler was right” is distant tomorrows “Trump wasn’t so bad”. I hope our grandchildren are as harsh on that as we are on “Hitler was right”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:21:31am

re: #194 Unshaken Defiance

Todays “Hitler was right” is distant tomorrows “Trump wasn’t so bad”. I hope our grandchildren are as harsh on that as we are on “Hitler was right”

Historical revisionism along the lines of “Slavery wasn’t that bad and had nothing to do with the causes of the Civil War!”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:24:12am

re: #194 Unshaken Defiance

Todays “Hitler was right” is distant tomorrows “Trump wasn’t so bad”. I hope our grandchildren are as harsh on that as we are on “Hitler was right”

Ditto. Man I really naively thought that it was pretty much agreed that Hitler sucked universally. Sigh.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:26:33am

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Ditto. Man I really naively thought that it was pretty much agreed that Hitler sucked universally. Sigh.

Not anymore since The Mercers mainstreamed Hitler’s ideas into the Republican Party.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:27:22am

re: #195 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Historical revisionism along the lines of “Slavery wasn’t that bad and had nothing to do with the causes of the Civil War!”

That too though the CSA stuff was always here with the Lost Cause and the Freeman School that related attacked Reconstruction.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:27:51am

re: #197 Joe Bacon 🌹

Not anymore since The Mercers mainstreamed Hitler’s ideas into the Republican Party.

I know. The Mercer’s are awful, awful people.

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Bubblehead II  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:28:08am

re: #162 Kragar

Reported this ass.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:28:12am

So I’m a little sad, but grateful this morning. Our oldest cat Silver, has gone about stone deaf. I was not sure did some simple testing. She can sleep through a really loud noise, but touch her and she pops awake.

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Bubblehead II  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:29:53am

re: #186 jeffreyw

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What happened to the feeder?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:31:01am

re: #198 HappyWarrior

That too though the CSA stuff was always here with the Lost Cause and the Freeman School that related attacked Reconstruction.

Reconstruction was a disaster but that does nothing to justify slavery. We had every opportunity to resolve the issue without resorting to armed conflict.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:32:27am

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Ditto. Man I really naively thought that it was pretty much agreed that Hitler sucked universally. Sigh.

There were always people who were pleased at how many Jews and Communists he killed. And is sense of Law and Order and “decency”.

They are now just a lot more open about expressing that admiration.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:35:16am

re: #198 HappyWarrior

That too though the CSA stuff was always here with the Lost Cause and the Freeman School that related attacked Reconstruction.

What’s the Freeman School?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:37:29am

re: #203 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Reconstruction was a disaster but that does nothing to justify slavery. We had every opportunity to resolve the issue without resorting to armed conflict.

The Freeman School degrades the goals of Reconstruction. Reconstruction was a failure because the North gave up on it too early.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:38:20am

re: #205 Sir John Barron

What’s the Freeman School?

Where Morgan learned to read and write

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:39:51am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

The Freeman School degrades the goals of Reconstruction. Reconstruction was a failure because the North gave up on it too early.

I understood that the North decided that amenable relations with the Southern states were more important than Reconstruction and establishing any sense of justice for the freed slaves.

And they just wanted to be shut of the entire affair and get on with things…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:41:04am

re: #205 Sir John Barron

What’s the Freeman School?

The Freeman School were historians in the 1930’s led by Douglas Freeman who helped push the Lost Cause mythos while also making white Southerners the victims of Reconstruction and suggesting that giving blacks rights in that era was a mistake. A friend of my community college American history professor, Eric Foner has spent his career pushing back against that.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:42:47am

re: #208 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I understood that the North decided that amenable relations with the Southern states were more important than Reconstruction and establishing any sense of justice for the freed slaves.

And they just wanted to be shut of the entire affair and get on with things…

Read about the Election of 1876 and the so called Great Compromise of 1876. I’ll give President Grant credit, he’s a better president than I originally thought. He went after the Klan and was serious about helping the freedmen and women.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:43:28am

re: #185 Sir John Barron

“OK, let’s say he orchestrated the intentional torture and systematic murder of 6 million+ Jews and was responsible for killing millions more Russians and Poles, but look, he was right on many levels.”

///

One of my conservative friends claimed that in 1937 a vast majority of Germans supported Hitler because the economy was doing well, and after the terrible years they suffered, that was an important accomplishment. When I then said that this reflected ill on the people because of their acceptance of the evil that he had unleashed on Germany, he accused me of being “moralistic” in judging the German people, that they were really unaware of what was happening, and suggested my liberal friends would react the same way in those circumstances. After reading the dailykos.com diary linked by Belafon yesterday, he may have somewhat of a point on how easy it is for people to embrace evil.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:45:01am

Douglas Freeman wrote a four volume bio of Lee that was pretty much the standard for the St. Robert of Arlington that is prevalent in the South.

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ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:45:14am

re: #202 Bubblehead II

What happened to the feeder?

Probably preventing those furry masked bandits of the night from carrying it off.

Oh yeah…morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:45:33am

re: #210 HappyWarrior

Read about the Election of 1876 and the so called Great Compromise of 1876. I’ll give President Grant credit, he’s a better president than I originally thought. He went after the Klan and was serious about helping the freedmen and women.

I love posting this quote from Virginia-born Union General Henry “The Rock of Chickamauga” Thomas from a letter he wrote to General Grant in 1868. I pull it out whenever people start waxing too poetically about the Confederacy:

“[T]he greatest efforts made by the defeated insurgents since the close of the war have been to promulgate the idea that the cause of liberty, justice, humanity, equality, and all the calendar of the virtues of freedom, suffered violence and wrong when the effort for southern independence failed. This is, of course, intended as a species of political cant, whereby the crime of treason might be covered with a counterfeit varnish of patriotism, so that the precipitators of the rebellion might go down in history hand in hand with the defenders of the government, thus wiping out with their own hands their own stains; a species of self-forgiveness amazing in its effrontery, when it is considered that life and property—justly forfeited by the laws of the country, of war, and of nations, through the magnanimity of the government and people—was not exacted from them.”

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jeffreyw  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:47:36am

re: #202 Bubblehead II

What happened to the feeder?

Camera never sleeps, but we do. The feeder isn’t out yet - we put it away for the night.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:47:41am

re: #214 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I love posting this quote from Virginia-born Union General Henry “The Rock of Chickamauga” Thomas from a letter he wrote to General Grant in 1868. I pull it out whenever people start waxing too poetically about the Confederacy:

“[T]he greatest efforts made by the defeated insurgents since the close of the war have been to promulgate the idea that the cause of liberty, justice, humanity, equality, and all the calendar of the virtues of freedom, suffered violence and wrong when the effort for southern independence failed. This is, of course, intended as a species of political cant, whereby the crime of treason might be covered with a counterfeit varnish of patriotism, so that the precipitators of the rebellion might go down in history hand in hand with the defenders of the government, thus wiping out with their own hands their own stains; a species of self-forgiveness amazing in its effrontery, when it is considered that life and property—justly forfeited by the laws of the country, of war, and of nations, through the magnanimity of the government and people—was not exacted from them.”

I hate that we celebrate Lee and Jackson here in Va but not Thomas. We have highways, schools, neighborhoods, etc named after then but G.H Thomas is forgotten and that’s a shame, he’s up there with Washington and Marshall as great Virginians.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:52:29am

re: #216 HappyWarrior

I hate that we celebrate Lee and Jackson here in Va but not Thomas. We have highways, schools, neighborhoods, etc named after then but G.H Thomas is forgotten and that’s a shame, he’s up there with Washington and Marshall as great Virginians.

Nor do they seem to have much use for Virgina-born Union General Winfield Scott, whose “Anaconda Plan” was what ultimately defeated the South

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:52:51am

So I’m seeing it looks like the authorities may have finally caught one of the most elusive serial killers in modern times - the East Area Rapist/Original Night Stalker, aka “The Golden State Killer”.

en.wikipedia.org

A press conference is slated for noon Pacific Time today.

fox40.com

Interesting, to say the very least. Hopefully, they got the guy.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:53:02am

re: #211 Hecuba’s daughter

One of my conservative friends claimed that in 1937 a vast majority of Germans supported Hitler because the economy was doing well, and after the terrible years they suffered, that was an important accomplishment. When I then said that this reflected ill on the people because of their acceptance of the evil that he had unleashed on Germany, he accused me of being “moralistic” in judging the German people, that they were really unaware of what was happening, and suggested my liberal friends would react the same way in those circumstances. After reading the dailykos.com diary linked by Belafon yesterday, he may have somewhat of a point on how easy it is for people to embrace evil.

It amuses me your friend thinks that way but probably flips their shit if someone remotely praises any aspect of socialism. I’m on the ASD spectrum, people like me were killed by the Nazis. I definitely do judge the German people who supported Hitler because they saw how violent the Nazis were. They saw the scapegoating of the Jews even though German Jews served with honor in WWI and contributed greatly to Germany. What that Kos diary showed me was that many even progressives can’t empathize or try to understand others. The author’s friend insisting that transgender people conform to her expectation of what pronoun she wants. And the hostility towards Latinos too.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:54:01am

re: #218 Dr Lizardo

So I’m seeing it looks like the authorities may have finally caught one of the most elusive serial killers in modern times - the East Area Rapist/Original Night Stalker, aka “The Golden State Killer”.

en.wikipedia.org

A press conference is slated for noon Pacific Time today.

fox40.com

Interesting, to say the very least. Hopefully, they got the guy.

That is crazy. I was just watching a documentary on him. This is amazing. Like finding the Zodiac or Jack the Ripper.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:54:29am

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nor do they seem to have much use for Virgina-born Union General Winfield Scott, whose “Anaconda Plan” was what ultimately defeated the South

Yep Scott deserves more love too.

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Bubblehead II  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:55:30am

re: #215 jeffreyw

Camera never sleeps, but we do. The feeder isn’t out yet - we put it away for the night.

Ahh. Thanks.

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Belafon  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:56:54am

re: #211 Hecuba’s daughter

One of my conservative friends claimed that in 1937 a vast majority of Germans supported Hitler because the economy was doing well, and after the terrible years they suffered, that was an important accomplishment. When I then said that this reflected ill on the people because of their acceptance of the evil that he had unleashed on Germany, he accused me of being “moralistic” in judging the German people, that they were really unaware of what was happening, and suggested my liberal friends would react the same way in those circumstances. After reading the dailykos.com diary linked by Belafon yesterday, he may have somewhat of a point on how easy it is for people to embrace evil.

Band of Brothers showed that it was happening close enough to people that they were choosing to ignore it.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:59:02am

re: #223 Belafon

Band of Brothers showed that it was happening close enough to people that they were choosing to ignore it.

In 1938, the German people would have witnessed Kristallnacht and the mass arrests. Wasn’t it Wiesel who said it was indifference that allowed the Nazis to succeed? I see the same thing with immigrants scapegoated today.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 6:59:10am

re: #219 HappyWarrior

It amuses me your friend thinks that way but probably flips their shit if someone remotely praises any aspect of socialism. I’m on the ASD spectrum, people like me were killed by the Nazis. I definitely do judge the German people who supported Hitler because they saw how violent the Nazis were. They saw the scapegoating of the Jews even though German Jews served with honor in WWI and contributed greatly to Germany. What that Kos diary showed me was that many even progressives can’t empathize or try to understand others. The author’s friend insisting that transgender people conform to her expectation of what pronoun she wants. And the hostility towards Latinos too.

I often try to put myself in the place of people in the early and mid-1930’s before we knew what National Socialism was truly capable of. We tend to overlook how popular Fascism was in the 30’s, in Europe, the UK and it even had its prominent adherents in the USA.

I might well have been attracted to the way it was highly anti-clerical and socially egalitarian: they were ready to promote anyone who was capable and ideologically reliable. Which is why Hitler and most of his generals did not get along, the old Junker officer class did not like the Austrian upstart corporal running the show.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 25, 2018 • 7:01:08am

re: #220 HappyWarrior

That is crazy. I was just watching a documentary on him. This is amazing. Like finding the Zodiac or Jack the Ripper.

Definitely; he’s one of the most infamous serial killers of the modern era. And if indeed they’ve got him, well, then it’s big, big news.

This will be private….you’ll understand why:

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 7:04:39am

re: #225 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I often try to put myself in the place of people in the early and mid-1930’s before we knew what National Socialism was truly capable of. We tend to overlook how popular Fascism was in the 30’s, in Europe, the UK and it even had its prominent adherents in the USA.

I might well have been attracted to the way it was highly anti-clerical and socially egalitarian: they were ready to promote anyone who was capable and ideologically reliable. Which is why Hitler and most of his generals did not get along, the old Junker officer class did not like the Austrian upstart corporal running the show.

Not all fascism was anti-clerical. And there was a lot of corrpution and cronyism too. I definitely understand that fascism had an appeal because after WWI people were definitely disillusioned but I can’t give slack, I just can’t just like I can’t for anyone who still apologized for Stalin after the Show Trials and Holodomor.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 7:05:23am

re: #226 Dr Lizardo

Definitely; he’s one of the most infamous serial killers of the modern era. And if indeed they’ve got him, well, then it’s big, big news.

This will be private….you’ll understand why:

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 25, 2018 • 7:07:13am

re: #228 HappyWarrior

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 7:11:25am

re: #229 Dr Lizardo

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ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2018 • 7:11:37am

re: #224 HappyWarrior

In 1938, the German people would have witnessed Kristallnacht and the mass arrests. Wasn’t it Wiesel who said it was indifference that allowed the Nazis to succeed? I see the same thing with immigrants scapegoated today.

Indifference from the populace, cooperation from the big businesses, lawyers, politicians and judges. Wiesel was especially critical of the lawyers, politicians and judges as they made what Hitler was doing legal.

Sounds familiar to some of the crap going on here in the U.S.A.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 7:11:58am

re: #227 HappyWarrior

Not all fascism was anti-clerical. And there was a lot of corrpution and cronyism too. I definitely understand that fascism had an appeal because after WWI people were definitely disillusioned but I can’t give slack, I just can’t just like I can’t for anyone who still apologized for Stalin after the Show Trials and Holodomor.

Again, I am simply trying to put myself in the position of people in the 30’s…True, Franco was big in using the Catholic Church, but Nazis were expected to quit their church membership upon joining the party.

And America was never subjected to the sort of oppressive social regime that was still prevalent all over Europe in which children of peasants or workers were expected to be nothing more than peasants or workers, sons of shopkeepers became shopkeepers and sons of generals became generals. One of the appeals of National Socialism was that they believed in a system of merit over birthright.

And they offered cheap package holiday tours to the Alps or the North Sea for working people who had never seen such places before…

I am not rationalizing or justifying anything, just trying to assess the nature of their appeal, I do not think it was so much that the masses actively supported their racial or militarist ideology.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 25, 2018 • 7:13:37am

re: #230 HappyWarrior

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ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2018 • 7:13:46am

re: #226 Dr Lizardo

Definitely; he’s one of the most infamous serial killers of the modern era. And if indeed they’ve got him, well, then it’s big, big news.

This will be private….you’ll understand why:

No big surprise in the info in your private tag.

Might have a lot to do with why it was a tough case to crack.

And we have had other examples.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 25, 2018 • 7:19:58am

re: #234 ObserverArt

No big surprise in the info in your private tag.

Might have a lot to do with why it was a tough case to crack.

And we have had other examples.

I had the same thought.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 7:23:14am

re: #232 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Again, I am simply trying to put myself in the position of people in the 30’s…True, Franco was big in using the Catholic Church, but Nazis were expected to quit their church membership upon joining the party.

And America was never subjected to the sort of oppressive social system common in Europe in which children of peasants or workers were expected to be nothing more than peasants or workers, sons of shopkeepers became shopkeepers and sons of generals became generals. One of the appeals of National Socialism was that they believed in a system of merit over birthright.

And they offered cheap package holiday tours to the Alps or the North Sea for working people who had never seen such places before…

I am not rationalizing or justifying anything, just trying to assess the nature of their appeal, I do not think it was so much that the masses actively supported their racial or militarist ideology.

Oh I know you’re not. I’m just saying that National Socialism preached merit based rewards but it wasn’t really the case. Look at this way, it’s kind of like how Trump claimed he would drain the swamp.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 7:23:38am

re: #231 ObserverArt

Indifference from the populace, cooperation from the big businesses, lawyers, politicians and judges. Wiesel was especially critical of the lawyers, politicians and judges as they made what Hitler was doing legal.

Sounds familiar to some of the crap going on here in the U.S.A.

It is.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 7:26:09am

re: #236 HappyWarrior

Oh I know you’re not. I’m just saying that National Socialism preached merit based rewards but it wasn’t really the case. Look at this way, it’s kind of like how Trump claimed he would drain the swamp.

ideological reliability was as or more important than merit, but they managed to sell the idea successfully…yeah, does sound familiar in that respect

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Sir John Barron  Apr 25, 2018 • 7:26:56am

re: #212 HappyWarrior

Douglas Freeman wrote a four volume bio of Lee that was pretty much the standard for the St. Robert of Arlington that is prevalent in the South.

Oh yes, thanks, I remember that name now. I have his one volume of Lee (condensed from the four volumes).

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lawhawk  Apr 25, 2018 • 7:38:31am

re: #27 makeitstop

Trump/Fox going to make this Obama’s fault that Trump didn’t properly vet his picks to run the VA.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 7:40:44am

re: #240 lawhawk

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Remember when Fox whined whenever Obama so much as mentioned the missteps of the Bush administration. And yeah Obama may have misjudged Jackson’s character. So what, Obama’s NOT the one who picked Jackson for VA Secretary. I guess Jimmy Carter can sleep well knowing that FNC is blaming Obama rather thtan him for everything now.

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lawhawk  Apr 25, 2018 • 7:43:34am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. Special election results came in last night and they show that the GOP is in serious trouble across the nation. The AZ-8 result shows that when Democrats put up credible candidates in every election, they can make it close or win outright.

Trump carried that district by 21 points. The GOP candidate won by 5 despite the GOP pouring millions in to help fend off the Democratic challenger. That’s unsustainable for the GOP because they’ve got too many seats to defend that way.

Meanwhile, in NY, the GOP should have lost control of the State Senate because they lost the two senate races there, but a Democratic party defector - Simcha Felder - is continuing to caucus with the GOP. He was part of the insurgent IDC that wanted more of a say than their party would allow them so they caucus with the GOP.

Elsewhere in the state, the Democrats continue to hold their advantage in the Assembly and November looks like Democrats will be able to sweep back into controlling the State Senate.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 7:43:35am

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 25, 2018 • 7:48:55am

So, here’s the story on the GSK from the Sacramento Bee:

Authorities are expected to announce the arrest Wednesday of a suspect in the decades-old East Area Rapist case, The Bee has learned.

The suspect has been living in the Sacramento area and was identified after a renewed push of the investigation by the Sacramento County Sheriff’s Department and District Attorney Anne Marie Schubert, a source said.

The East Area Rapist, also known as the Golden State Killer, the Original Night Stalker and the Diamond Knot Killer, is believed to have killed at least 12 people, raped at least 45 victims and burglarized hundreds of homes.

Authorities believe he raped 37 people in the Sacramento area and Central Valley and killed two between 1976 and 1978. From there, authorities believe, he moved on to the the Bay Area and Southern California.

sacbee.com

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gocart mozart  Apr 25, 2018 • 7:53:33am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 7:55:57am

re: #245 gocart mozart

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:03:45am

re: #224 HappyWarrior

In 1938, the German people would have witnessed Kristallnacht and the mass arrests. Wasn’t it Wiesel who said it was indifference that allowed the Nazis to succeed? I see the same thing with immigrants scapegoated today.

And weren’t the German people already familiar with the 1935 Nuremberg laws that severely restricted the rights of Jews?

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Weaselone  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:05:47am

re: #210 HappyWarrior

Read about the Election of 1876 and the so called Great Compromise of 1876. I’ll give President Grant credit, he’s a better president than I originally thought. He went after the Klan and was serious about helping the freedmen and women.

Grant, many of the Union generals and indeed the union soldiers themselves have been subjected to significant sliming in service of the lost cause myth, while Lee and self righteous jackasses like Jackson and Stuart and downright shitheels like Forrest have been hoisted up as heroes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:07:26am

re: #247 Hecuba’s daughter

And weren’t the German people already familiar with the 1935 Nuremberg laws that severely restricted the rights of Jews?

In hindsight, it should have been quite clear to them as early as then, but it is amazing what people are prepared to ignore in order to get on with their lives and simply pretend that the world around them is in order.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:09:48am

re: #247 Hecuba’s daughter

And weren’t the German people already familiar with the 1935 Nuremberg laws that severely restricted the rights of Jews?

Yes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:10:14am

re: #248 Weaselone

Grant, many of the Union generals and indeed the union soldiers themselves have been subjected to significant sliming in service of the lost cause myth, while Lee and self righteous jackasses like Jackson and Stuart and downright shitheels like Forrest have been hoisted up as heroes.

Forrest, Lee, Jackson and Stuart all had some moments of brilliant generalship but that has to be considered separately from the historical context and the cause they fought for.

One of my favorite quotes is from shotgun’s civil war page:

“I am a Southerner by birth and a Rebel by choice. As I read and study, I pull for Lee, Jackson, and Longstreet. As I live, I thank Grant, Lincoln, and Democracy.” - Shotgun

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Dr. Matt  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:10:57am

American Conservatives have spent decades ridiculing the French. Now their Dear Leader is having a open and proud bromance with the French President. Amusing.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:11:40am

re: #232 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And America was never subjected to the sort of oppressive social regime that was still prevalent all over Europe in which children of peasants or workers were expected to be nothing more than peasants or workers, sons of shopkeepers became shopkeepers and sons of generals became generals. One of the appeals of National Socialism was that they believed in a system of merit over birthright.
….

Tell that to those of African-American heritage before the Civil Rights Act or the Warren Court.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:11:41am

re: #248 Weaselone

Grant, many of the Union generals and indeed the union soldiers themselves have been subjected to significant sliming in service of the lost cause myth, while Lee and self righteous jackasses like Jackson and Stuart and downright shitheels like Forrest have been hoisted up as heroes.

Indeed, I think that’s one of the worst parts of the Lost Cause. Real heroes like Grant and many others get forgotten or even slimed. TBH as a descendant of a Union infantryman, I’m tired of descendants of Confederate Veterans acting like their ancestors fought for a just cause and our ancestors were just pawns of Lincoln. I don’t know anything about the nature of my second great grandfather but I do know this, he was new to this country and chose it over slavery.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:13:06am

re: #249 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In hindsight, it should have been quite clear to them as early as then, but it is amazing what people are prepared to ignore in order to get on with their lives and simply pretend that the world around them is in order.

Indifference. And it’s not like there were weren’t those who fought back either.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:15:22am

re: #253 Hecuba’s daughter

Tell that to those of African-American heritage before the Civil Rights Act or the Warren Court.

That refers to a minority and is a valid point. but the American Dream was always about social upward mobility: immigrants, workers and farmers making a better life for their children.

Again, I was talking about how and why the Nazis gained such a broad appeal upon coming to power and not the reality behind what they stood for.

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MsJ  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:16:04am
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:16:07am

re: #255 HappyWarrior

Indifference. And it’s not like there were weren’t those who fought back either.

For too many people, if it doesn’t affect them directly, they don’t care.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:16:28am

re: #255 HappyWarrior

Indifference. And it’s not like there were weren’t those who fought back either.

I also came to notice that the anti-Fascist resistance in Germany was played down in the West because a lot of them were Communists…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:17:16am

re: #257 MsJ

Special counsel Robert Mueller has worked with other departments and agencies in the course of the Trump Russia investigation, ensuring that even if the special counsel is fired, the elements of the investigation live on

So basically, Trump will have to fire the entire government in order to root out the Deep State Infestation.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:17:17am

Lee gets mythologized as a noble almost saintly figure. Grant gets reduced to a bumbling drunk who beat Lee because he got lucky. Jackson gets a holiday and almost the same sainthood. Sherman gets treated as almost a war criminal. Could go on and on but damn it I’m proud to be a descendant of a Union man. I’m proud that in one of my nation’s darkest hours, my second great grandfather chose his country and the right cause. Lee’s apologists want to go but but but his state and state mattered more than country in those days while ignoring two things 1) Country did certainly matter, 2) Every state in the union sent volunteers in 1861, and 3) There were plenty of Virginia unionists including generals like Thomas and Scott who we’ve already mentioned. I get that Lee may not have been like Forrest but I can’t forget that Lee put captured black Union men into slavery regardless of their prewar status. CSA captives were treated better.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:18:05am

re: #259 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I also came to notice that the anti-Fascist resistance in Germany was played down in the West because a lot of them were Communists…

Correct unfortunately.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:19:59am

re: #261 HappyWarrior

And when Lee refused to include black soldiers in the prisoner exchange program, the North cancelled it, which led to the horrors of the Southern prison camps in places like Andersonville, because the South did not have the resources to house and care for large numbers of prisoners.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:21:18am

re: #258 Hecuba’s daughter

For too many people, if it doesn’t affect them directly, they don’t care.

We saw that in Belafon’s link to the Kos journal about the Kossack’s self fancied progressive friends who have become either Trump supporting or Trump indifferent. I work in a lot of immigration cases. I may not be an immigrant myself but I see the hopes and dreams of immigrants far more than most. Too many white Americans have forgotten our immigrant roots. My genealogy research reminds me daily that were for a twist of fate, I could still be in Europe or maybe even an immigrant myself. We instead get assholes telling modern immigrants that their ancestors “never complained” which isn’t true. My ancestors definitely raised hell when nativists gave them a hard time.

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William Lewis  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:21:44am

Well that’s wonderful

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makeitstop  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:22:02am

LOL

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:23:08am

re: #266 makeitstop

which pink floyd album is this

The Dark Side of the Macaroon

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b.d. (Perfect Smokey Eye)  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:24:37am

re: #266 makeitstop

LOL

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:24:46am

re: #263 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And when Lee refused to include black soldiers in the prisoner exchange program, the North cancelled it, which resulted in the horrors of the Southern prison caps in places like Andersonville, because the South did not have the resources to house and care for large numbers of prisoners.

Yep. Lee may not have been like Forrest but I’d argue many of his actions were more like Forrest than Grant. He doesn’t deserve the secular sainthood he gets here. I’d like to see George Marshall get more respect in this country. Truman called him the best American of the WWII era and I’m inclined to agere.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:24:46am

re: #265 William Lewis

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:25:17am

re: #267 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Dark Side of the Macaroon

The Wall………………..is not being built.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:26:41am

re: #266 makeitstop

LOL

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:27:33am

re: #272 Eventual Carrion

“Wish I Wasn’t Here”

Uncomfortably Numb.

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Jay C  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:29:32am

re: #252 Dr. Matt

American Conservatives have spent decades ridiculing the French. Now their Dear Leader is having a open and proud bromance with the French President. Amusing.

And as soon as they screw Trump over wrt to trade deals or whatever, I’m sure the Right will go back to characterizing them as “cheese-eating surrender monkeys” tout suite…..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:33:01am

re: #273 HappyWarrior

Uncomfortably Numb.

Uncomfortably Trump

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makeitstop  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:34:50am
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lawhawk  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:39:31am

re: #260 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So basically, Trump will have to fire the entire government in order to root out the Deep State Infestation.

To the cheers of a complicit and compromised GOP that thinks Trump’s the bees knees.

The same GOP that claims to be strong backers of law enforcement will now seek and destroy the FBI and national security apparatus because they think they’re out to get Trump.

No - the FBI and law enforcement and intel community are out to root out a compromised, complicit, and corrupt Trump and his criminal cronies he surrounds himself with.

The GOP just doesn’t want the law applied to them and their chosen one. They want the law misapplied to Clinton, Obama, and their political enemies.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:41:15am

re: #276 makeitstop

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paywall…pls provide highlights

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lawhawk  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:42:57am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:44:01am

re: #277 lawhawk

To the cheers of a complicit and compromised GOP that thinks Trump’s the bees knees.

The same GOP that claims to be strong backers of law enforcement will now seek and destroy the FBI and national security apparatus because they think they’re out to get Trump.

No - the FBI and law enforcement and intel community are out to root out a compromised, complicit, and corrupt Trump and his criminal cronies he surrounds himself with.

The GOP just doesn’t want the law applied to them and their chosen one. They want the law misapplied to Clinton, Obama, and their political enemies.

Fox News did this. Conservatives, including some in my family, will watch Hannity lie to them, and act like any absurdity he utters is true.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:44:03am

This is gonna be big news today, especially in California.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:46:25am

re: #279 lawhawk

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It’s a fifteen point swing. I mean obviously I wish the Dems had won that seat but we’re not going to win every last seat. Hannity’s setting his idiots up to claim fraud when the wave eventually happens.

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lawhawk  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:50:39am

Ah, Trumpworld spin.

This is the now former Port Authority Commissioner who berated Tenafly NJ cops during a traffic stop and dropped f-bombs. The kicker is that she was elevated to that position by Christie. This is a bistate agency, where both NJ and NY governors get to make appointments.

That she also happened to be a Corzine or Clinton official at one time ignores that Christie’s the one who put her in this position.

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lawhawk  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:51:58am

re: #281 Dr Lizardo

A one person multi-decade crime spree. Serial killer, serial rapist. Serial burglar.

It’s amazing he wasn’t caught until now.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:53:29am

Spencer, of course, is using the old “I’m just asking questions” defense.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:54:50am

re: #283 lawhawk

Ah, Trumpworld spin.

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This is the now former Port Authority Commissioner who berated Tenafly NJ cops during a traffic stop and dropped f-bombs. The kicker is that she was elevated to that position by Christie. This is a bistate agency, where both NJ and NY governors get to make appointments.

That she also happened to be a Corzine or Clinton official at one time ignores that Christie’s the one who put her in this position.

JFC. They’re such fucking hacks.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:55:32am

re: #285 Ace-o-aces

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I had forgotten about the other Spencer. What a miserable piece of shit.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:55:49am

re: #283 lawhawk

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:55:53am

re: #277 lawhawk

To the cheers of a complicit and compromised GOP that thinks Trump’s the bees knees.

The same GOP that claims to be strong backers of law enforcement will now seek and destroy the FBI and national security apparatus because they think they’re out to get Trump.

No - the FBI and law enforcement and intel community are out to root out a compromised, complicit, and corrupt Trump and his criminal cronies he surrounds himself with.

The GOP just doesn’t want the law applied to them and their chosen one. They want the law misapplied to Clinton, Obama, and their political enemies.

Under Hoover, the FBI was a severely compromised agency, just like the NY Trumpland office in 2016. If the GOP remains in power much longer, we may witness a return to the racism and misogyny of the past in all government agencies. Too many police departments currently are infected. We must stop them from defining the law.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:56:36am

re: #284 lawhawk

A one person multi-decade crime spree. Serial killer, serial rapist. Serial burglar.

It’s amazing he wasn’t caught until now.

my prediction:

there will be an op-ed pointing out that the FBI is wasting resources on political witch hunts that it could have used to find him a lot earlier…

bets on where it will appear?

this was already used in reference to the Stoneman-Douglas school shooting

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lawhawk  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:58:15am

re: #291 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

my prediction:

there will be an op-ed pointing out that the FBI is wasting resources on political witch hunts that it could have used to find him a lot earlier…

bets on where it will appear?

this was already used in reference to the Stoneman-Douglas school shooting

All while demanding every resource be devoted to investigating Clinton, Obama, and Trump political enemies.

Yeah, it’ll be up on Fox before long. Maybe starting with Limbaugh, Hannity or Savage or Levin.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 8:59:39am

re: #291 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

my prediction:

there will be an op-ed pointing out that the FBI is wasting resources on political witch hunts that it could have used to find him a lot earlier…

bets on where it will appear?

this was already used in reference to the Stoneman-Douglas school shooting

Even though he’s been wanted for over 30 years and most of the important police work would be done by the local authorities but we can’t let FNC get in the way of a good web of bs.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:02:36am

re: #293 HappyWarrior

Even though he’s been wanted for over 30 years and most of the important police work would be done by the local authorities but we can’t let FNC get in the way of a good web of bs.

This has been a long-standing cold case. It’s like the Zodiac killings or the Santa Rosa hitch-hiker murders or the Black Dahlia. The local LEO’s have been looking into this for a long, long time.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:02:40am

re: #284 lawhawk

A one person multi-decade crime spree. Serial killer, serial rapist. Serial burglar.

It’s amazing he wasn’t caught until now.

The Zodiac killer was never caught. Many serial killers escape discovery.

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lawhawk  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:02:49am

re: #293 HappyWarrior

Even though he’s been wanted for over 30 years and most of the important police work would be done by the local authorities but we can’t let FNC get in the way of a good web of bs.

A good reminder that there are cold cases out there on tens of thousands of rapes over the years because law enforcement never bothered to process the rape kits (or lost them or didn’t make the connections).

Too soon to say what happened here, but there are other cold cases that could be solved with eliminating the backlog of untested rape kits.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:05:15am

re: #294 Dr Lizardo

This has been a long-standing cold case. It’s like the Zodiac killings or the Santa Rosa hitch-hiker murders or the Black Dahlia. The local LEO’s have been looking into this for a long, long time.

Yep. Up there with BTK as a long time guy they finally caught. Gives me hope that maybe they’ll identify Zodiac or Short’s murderer eventually too. This is my rule when it comes to genealogy research but it works for any kind of history research- Most history isn’t lost, it’s just missing, waiting to be found or it’s been there the whole time like my third great grandmother’s place of birth in Ireland.

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Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:05:44am

In three years, we’ll hear the press declaring: “Former Democrat and Clinton friend loses bid for reelection to the presidency.”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:06:11am

re: #295 Hecuba’s daughter

The Zodiac killer was never caught. Many serial killers escape discovery.

Most are caught thankfully but there are some who are never caught and go to the grave. Jack the Ripper being the most famous of them.

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Teukka  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:06:40am

re: #295 Hecuba’s daughter

The Zodiac killer was never caught. Many serial killers escape discovery.

Yeah. Andrei Chikatilo managed at least 53 before getting caught. And also was helped by prejudices among those tasked to investigate the murders.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:06:47am

re: #298 Targetpractice

In three years, we’ll hear the press declaring: “Former Democrat and Clinton friend loses bid for reelection to the presidency.”

“Was President Trump actually a liberal” as discussed by people who degraded any liberal criticism of Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:07:10am

re: #300 Teukka

Yeah. Andrei Chikatilo managed at least 53 before getting caught. And also was helped by prejudices among those tasked to investigate the murders.

As an amateur serial killer history buff, that case scares the crap outta me.

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ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:07:29am

re: #257 MsJ

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You reminded me…I was going to put the video up for that bit Rachel did. I saw it last night. It may help calm the fears of many who think if Mueller is fired the investigation(s) ends.

Iframe

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Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:08:22am

re: #300 Teukka

Yeah. Andrei Chikatilo managed at least 53 before getting caught. And also was helped by prejudices among those tasked to investigate the murders.

Ayep, the belief that a “perfect socialist system” could not produce a serial killer.

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Teukka  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:08:35am

re: #302 HappyWarrior

As an amateur serial killer history buff, that case scares the crap outta me.

And as someone who has studied sex crimes at length, serial killers scare the crap out of me as it is not uncommon for serial killers to be serial rapists and abusers as well.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:08:54am

President Macron delivers stunning rebuke of Trumpism — bashes ‘the illusion of nationalism’ to standing ovation from US Congress

Macron began his speech by discussing the shared history of the United States and France and then moved into a full-throated defense of globalism and freedom.

Macron said the solution is “the opposite of deregulation and extreme nationalism.”

Throughout, he received warm applause from the assembly, including a standing ovation when he said that “the illusion of nationalism” should not be allowed to force the Western world back into the Dark Ages.

He got specific, too.

“I believe we can build the right answers,” he said, “by negotiating through the World Trade Organization… We wrote these rules, we should follow them.”

The Bromance is quickly on the rocks.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:10:13am

re: #305 Teukka

And as someone who has studied sex crimes at length, serial killers scare the crap out of me as it is not uncommon for serial killers to be serial rapists and abusers as well.

Yeah just disturbing stuff.

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Teukka  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:10:52am

re: #304 Targetpractice

Ayep, the belief that a “perfect socialist system” could not produce a serial killer.

And then he evaded capture again because they looked for him in the LGBTQ community around Rostov-na-Donu. Have you seen the movie “Citizen X”?

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Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:11:07am

re: #306 Dr. Matt

President Macron delivers stunning rebuke of Trumpism — bashes ‘the illusion of nationalism’ to standing ovation from US Congress

The Bromance is quickly on the rocks.

When you invite your crush over, only for him to reveal you’re just not his type.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:11:16am

re: #297 HappyWarrior

Weren’t the Short’s murderers discovered and convicted wtvm.com? The real problem arises when the murder spree is over multiple jurisdictions and an extended period of time. The authorities may not even realize they are dealing with a serial murderer.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:12:05am

re: #306 Dr. Matt

President Macron delivers stunning rebuke of Trumpism — bashes ‘the illusion of nationalism’ to standing ovation from US Congress

The Bromance is quickly on the rocks.

Trump’s going to feel betrayed. They just made an album cover together, and then Macron speaks out against everything Trump loves.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:13:14am

re: #310 Hecuba’s daughter

Weren’t the Short’s murderers discovered and convicted wtvm.com? The real problem arises when the murder spree is over multiple jurisdictions and an extended period of time. The authorities may not even realize they are dealing with a serial murderer.

Different Shorts. I’m talking about Elizabeth Short, the Black Dahila. But yes that often does happen. And sometimes you have multiple serial killers preying in the same aera. I think there were two or three prominent serial killers operating in Santa Cruz in the early 70’s.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:13:19am
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Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:14:30am

re: #308 Teukka

And then he evaded capture again because they looked for him in the LGBTQ community around Rostov-na-Donu. Have you seen the movie “Citizen X”?

I think I watched it years ago, but mostly read up on the case because of (of all things) a parody of it in book about a fictional timeline where the US was the country that became a socialist nation.

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:15:21am

re: #297 HappyWarrior

Yep. Up there with BTK as a long time guy they finally caught. Gives me hope that maybe they’ll identify Zodiac or Short’s murderer eventually too. This is my rule when it comes to genealogy research but it works for any kind of history research- Most history isn’t lost, it’s just missing, waiting to be found or it’s been there the whole time like my third great grandmother’s place of birth in Ireland.

Zodiac was identified in all probability, but it was never proven.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:15:32am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:15:49am

re: #313 Ace-o-aces

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Does TheFederalistClub beat his wife with a shillelagh? // Just asking questions!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:16:23am

re: #315 Scottish Dragon

Zodiac was identified in all probability, but it was never proven.

Arthur Leigh Allen right?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:16:31am

re: #315 Scottish Dragon

Zodiac was identified in all probability, but it was never proven.

Sure, and we’re stuck with him in Congress.
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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:16:59am

re: #316 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Conservatives could benefit from stopping watching Ben Shapiro “destroy liberals” when it’s really just Ben Shapiro jacking himself off to how insightful he thinks he is.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:17:04am

re: #318 HappyWarrior

Arthur Leigh Allen right?

Ted Cruz’s dad?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:17:24am

re: #319 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Sure, and we’re stuck with him in Congress.
/

Saw a guy wearing a shirt referencing that at the Dropkick Murphys show. I had to give him my props.

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Teukka  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:18:36am

re: #316 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:18:41am

re: #317 HappyWarrior

Does TheFederalistClub beat his wife with a shillelagh? // Just asking questions!

wrong question: Has TheFederalistClub stopped beating his wife with a shillelagh?

And why the silence if he has stopped already??

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:18:53am

re: #321 Eventual Carrion

Ted Cruz’s dad?

Zodiac not the guy who killed Kennedy . /// On a serious note, what the hell does it say about Cruz that he sucks up to the guy who suggested his Dad did that? I mean yeah one thing for Trump to have called him a liar but the attacks Trump made on Cruz made me feel bad for Cruz not because I have any sort of sympathy for Cruz but they were nasty shit.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:18:55am

re: #320 HappyWarrior

Conservatives could benefit from stopping watching Ben Shapiro “destroy liberals” when it’s really just Ben Shapiro jacking himself off to how insightful he thinks he is.

Yeah, he’s poisoning millennial minds, but who’s going to knock down those straw-men if Ben doesn’t do it?

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:18:57am

re: #302 HappyWarrior

As an amateur serial killer history buff, that case scares the crap outta me.

Béla Kiss is another creepy one. Last seen exiting the subway at Times Square in NYC in 1932.

en.wikipedia.org

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:20:20am

re: #327 Dr Lizardo

Béla Kiss is another creepy one. Last seen exiting the subway at Times Square in NYC in 1932.

en.wikipedia.org

Oh yeah for sure. Belle Gunness too if we’re going to go with ones that were never caught.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:20:54am

re: #326 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Yeah, he’s poisoning millennial minds, but who’s going to knock down those straw-men if Ben doesn’t do it?

Steven Crowder? //

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makeitstop  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:21:02am

Just came over my phone - Supreme Court ‘more sympathetic’ to Trump’s travel ban than lower courts.

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:21:54am

re: #318 HappyWarrior

Arthur Leigh Allen right?

There were two likely suspects I think, and Arthur Leigh Allen was cleared (of at least some of the killings) by DNA and fingerprints which did not match. That still leaves a possibility that he was a copycat since he talked about killing people A LOT.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:22:22am

re: #320 HappyWarrior

Conservatives could benefit from stopping watching Ben Shapiro “destroy liberals” when it’s really just Ben Shapiro jacking himself off to how insightful he thinks he is.

Click-bait headline: “Ben Shapiro DESTROYS socialist lib!!!!”
Reality: “20 minute video of Ben spouting uninspired, standard GOP talking points.”

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ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:24:23am

re: #289 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Jeff “We call BS” Furlington
@FurlingtonJeff
Why not say Christie appointee? You have an unhealthy obsession with Clinton, and ignore the madness going on in the White House. It makes it look like you’re a bunch of hacks, working to mislead your audience.

11:55 AM - Apr 25, 2018

Fox News look like hacks working to mislead their audience.

It’s their business model…no looking like it to it.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:24:25am

re: #332 Ace-o-aces

Click-bait headline: “Ben Shapiro DESTROYS socialist lib!!!!”
Reality: “20 minute video of Ben spouting uninspired, standard GOP talking points.”

This whole “destroys” thing from the brainwashed-right would be hilarious if they weren’t so sad.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:25:03am

re: #321 Eventual Carrion

Ted Cruz’s dad?

Wasn’t the “charge” leveled against Ted Cruz himself? Of course, given that the first murder was before his birth and he was a toddler during most of them, he would have needed a time machine to be responsible. But what better way of escaping detection?

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Varek Raith  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:25:05am

Good afternoon.

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Belafon  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:25:37am

re: #313 Ace-o-aces

I realize this is pointless, but I could literally show them history showing how the GI Bill and house buying opportunities were denied to blacks, how they are arrested and searched more often for incidents they commit at the same rates as whites, and the news on how they are discriminated against. It’s not a conspiracy.

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plansbandc  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:26:00am

It’s astonishing to me how so many people loathe immigrants. And that hatred has been a hallmark of this country since the very beginning. FFS

Immigrants shaped this country. They continue to help shape this country.

I hate that they are constantly used as political pawns.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:26:22am

re: #330 makeitstop

Just came over my phone - Supreme Court ‘more sympathetic’ to Trump’s travel ban than lower courts.

This Supreme Court would have upheld Plessy vs Ferguson.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:28:16am

re: #327 Dr Lizardo

Béla Kiss is another creepy one. Last seen exiting the subway at Times Square in NYC in 1932.

en.wikipedia.org

I used to read a lot about serial killers but never heard of this guy. Of course I usually stuck to modern day, American killers.

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lawhawk  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:29:17am

re: #334 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

This whole “destroys” thing from the brainwashed-right would be hilarious if they weren’t so sad.

Hannity is using that adjective every time Sanders is confronted by a journalist at the daily Trumpworld misinformation session.

Sanders “destroys” journalist X.

Reality is that Sanders is a stuttering/pandering mess who is lying for Trump at every opportunity because that’s how she still has the job.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:29:44am

re: #339 Hecuba’s daughter

This Supreme Court would have upheld Plessy vs Ferguson.

And Dredd Scott

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Sir John Barron  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:29:47am

re: #288 HappyWarrior

I had forgotten about the other Spencer. What a miserable piece of shit.

Yeah I feel bad for the good folks who have to share their names with these two.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:30:22am

re: #331 Scottish Dragon

There were two likely suspects I think, and Arthur Leigh Allen was cleared (of at least some of the killings) by DNA and fingerprints which did not match. That still leaves a possibility that he was a copycat since he talked about killing people A LOT.

Oh okay, didn’t know Allen was cleared.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:30:54am

re: #343 Sir John Barron

Yeah I feel bad for the good folks who have to share their names with these two.

Worst I got is I share my surname with someone who’s a bit of a BB.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:31:28am

re: #330 makeitstop

Just came over my phone - Supreme Court ‘more sympathetic’ to Trump’s travel ban than lower courts.

Shit that’s not good.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:32:13am

re: #341 lawhawk

Hannity is using that adjective every time Sanders is confronted by a journalist at the daily Trumpworld misinformation session.

Sanders “destroys” journalist X.

Reality is that Sanders is a stuttering/pandering mess who is lying for Trump at every opportunity because that’s how she still has the job.

I really hate that word and tbh I hate that word for our own side too. It’s stupid hyperbolic bullshit.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:32:16am

re: #340 Sir John Barron

I used to read a lot about serial killers but never heard of this guy. Of course I usually stuck to modern day, American killers.

I’ve wondered if that was indeed Béla Kiss that popped up in Times Square in 1932 - what happened to him? Where did he go?

And did he commit further killings in the US that have gone undetected? Or maybe the cops just never put two and two together.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:32:25am

re: #186 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

What ransom is the woodpecker demanding for the return of the feeder?

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gocart mozart  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:32:50am
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Sir John Barron  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:33:07am

re: #221 HappyWarrior

Yep Scott deserves more love too.

Scott was probably the only person, in the military or in the political world, who knew what the Civil War would cost, and what would likely happen afterward. He advised Lincoln to either let the South go or be prepared for a multi-year war that would require hundreds of thousands of soldiers (at a time when the whole US Army before secession was like 16k) and that even if ultimately victorious would require years of military occupation to pacify.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:33:15am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:33:40am

re: #330 makeitstop

Just came over my phone - Supreme Court ‘more sympathetic’ to Trump’s travel ban than lower courts.

I also just read an article about why it is likely to be upheld: also DT finally got some people to work on it and add some non-Muslim countries like North Korea and Venezuela to it to make it look a bit more “secular”

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ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:33:46am

re: #318 HappyWarrior

Arthur Leigh Allen right?

He was cleared I believe, even though he was suspected for a long time. I think DNA helped clear him in the late 2000s.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:33:58am

re: #338 plansbandc

It’s astonishing to me how so many people loathe immigrants. And that hatred has been a hallmark of this country since the very beginning. FFS

Immigrants shaped this country. They continue to help shape this country.

I hate that they are constantly used as political pawns.

I’m a descendant of immigrants from six different countries. I’d be an asshole and a hypocrite if I hated immigrants. I know it sounds sappy but when I’ve worked with immigrants on their naturalizations, I just can’t help but to imagine my own family going through the process. I have my mom’s grandfathers naturalization records. That was a treasured find.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:34:18am

re: #354 ObserverArt

He was cleared I believe, even though he was suspected for a long time. I think DNA helped clear him in the late 2000s.

Thanks.

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:34:26am

In case anyone missed this, some background on mass-murderer Reinking:

Jeffrey Reinking, Travis Reinking’s Father: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

[…]

3. Reinking’s Mother Shared Posts on School Shootings & Home Schooling

Image: reinkingjudy1.png

Many of Judy Reinking’s posts on social media are laced with Christian references. Some of her posts were about parenting, including home schooling, and one referenced school shootings (you can see the latter post above.)

[…]

In 2015, she shared a graphic on school shootings. It reads: “I don’t remember a single school shooting when I was a kid. What I do remember is our teacher having us begin the day reciting the pledge of allegiance, reading from the Bible and praying. We also had the Ten Commandments on the wall. Maybe getting rid of those things wasn’t such a good idea after all!”

[…]

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:34:55am

re: #352 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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This guy probably eats his own poo.

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:35:04am

re: #344 HappyWarrior

Oh okay, didn’t know Allen was cleared.

I think it is very possible that there were two people working independently of each other, and I would not be shocked if Allen was one of them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:35:52am

re: #350 gocart mozart

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don’t go there…you know why:

If we had shown Obama as a monkey you would call us racists! shows that you are the real racists!

beyond that, I can no longer laugh at Trump humor, it is all just too sad and tragic.

I look forward to laughing at him again as a private citizen.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:36:16am

re: #357 freetoken

In case anyone missed this, some background on mass-murderer Reinking:

Jeffrey Reinking, Travis Reinking’s Father: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Berry berry interesting. And juging by Travis’s age, I doubt his mom remembers that in school. Vitale v Engel was decided when my mom was 3 and I’m 5-6 years older than him.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:37:34am

re: #359 Scottish Dragon

I think it is very possible that there were two people working independently of each other, and I would not be shocked if Allen was one of them.

That would be an interesting twist. I don’t recall if there were any disparacies in the witness descriptions of the killer. I dunno. For some reason, Allen as the Zodiac didn’t seem to fit for me, granted I’ve never seen photos of him at that time but he always seemed a little too short and stout to be the man in the sketch but it’s just that, a sketch.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:37:39am

re: #351 Sir John Barron

Scott was probably the only person, in the military or in the political world, who knew what the Civil War would cost, and what would likely happen afterward. He advised Lincoln to either let the South go or be prepared for a multi-year war that would require hundreds of thousands of soldiers (at a time when the whole US Army before secession was like 16k) and that even if ultimately victorious would require years of military occupation to pacify.

Nobody wanted to hear that and nobody wanted his tedious “Anaconda Plan”, which was truly the first plan for modern strategic warfare, one aimed not at defeating the enemy in the field but by destroying their ability to resist.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:37:58am

re: #354 ObserverArt

He was cleared I believe, even though he was suspected for a long time. I think DNA helped clear him in the late 2000s.

Yeah, that’s mentioned at the end of the movie Zodiac. Even though Allen was ID’d by Mike Mageau in a photo lineup, DNA cleared him.

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ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:38:16am

re: #325 HappyWarrior

Zodiac not the guy who killed Kennedy . /// On a serious note, what the hell does it say about Cruz that he sucks up to the guy who suggested his Dad did that? I mean yeah one thing for Trump to have called him a liar but the attacks Trump made on Cruz made me feel bad for Cruz not because I have any sort of sympathy for Cruz but they were nasty shit.

Do you think the Cambridge Analytica connections between Cruz and Trump campaigns has anything to do with it? Like maybe Trump has some dirt on CA and Ted and Cruz knows it?

Ted is dirty, he just hasn’t had anyone tie him into all of it that much.

Trump might have all the info that does and uses it to control Cruz.

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Belafon  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:39:07am

re: #357 freetoken

In case anyone missed this, some background on mass-murderer Reinking:

Jeffrey Reinking, Travis Reinking’s Father: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

We said the pledge. Teachers didn’t read the Bible. There were no shootings when I was a kid.

My kids say the pledge today.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:40:04am

re: #365 ObserverArt

Do you think the Cambridge Analytica connections between Cruz and Trump campaigns has anything to do with it? Like maybe Trump has some dirt on CA and Ted and Cruz knows it?

Ted is dirty, he just hasn’t had anyone tie him into all of it that much.

Trump might have all the info that does and uses it to control Cruz.

I’ve been thinking about that man and I think you may be on to something here. Because remember in the Summer, it did seem like Cruz was telling people “vote your conscience” but he has since become Trump’s biggest champion in the Senate. I can’t think of a single Trump proposal, nominee, or rhetoric that Cruz has actually disagreed with. I mean I don’t like the other Senate R’s but they sometimes deviate from Trump but not Ted. So yeah something is up.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:41:09am

re: #364 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, that’s mentioned at the end of the movie Zodiac. Even though Allen was ID’d by Mike Mageau in a photo lineup, DNA cleared him.

He had a hood on didn’t he? And eyewitness testimony is only so reliable. I think we’ll never know but perhaps something will come up eventually.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:41:15am

re: #239 Sir John Barron

Oh yes, thanks, I remember that name now. I have his one volume of Lee (condensed from the four volumes).

Good biography of Lee (I have the 4 volumes), and _Lee’s Lieutenants_ is a good volume on the other CSA generals that worked with Lee. Beyond that the “school” produced a lot of apologist crap, papered over a lot of bad decisions by same generals, especially Lee, and pretty much built up the “Grant was a butcher”, “we only lost due to being heavily outnumbered”, and a number of other memes about the war that are even now only slowly being eroded away. And making Lee and Jackson saints is a pretty good description of what Freeman did.

It took stuff like Coddington’s _Gettysburg Campaign_ to really point out that one reason that the South lost was due to good generalship and handling of good troops by the Union as well.

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Kafitrar  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:42:00am

re: #278 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

paywall…pls provide highlights

The media wants the government to unseal the materials used to obtain Mueller’s search warrants in his investigation. They say it could be newsworthy and that the material has been sealed much longer than in other cases.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:42:19am

re: #369 Feline Fearless Leader

Good biography of Lee (I have the 4 volumes), and _Lee’s Lieutenants_ is a good volume on the other CSA generals that worked with Lee. Beyond that the “school” produced a lot of apologist crap, papered over a lot of bad decisions by same generals, especially Lee, and pretty much built up the “Grant was a butcher”, “we only lost due to being heavily outnumbered”, and a number of other memes about the war that are even now only slowly being eroded away. And making Lee and Jackson saints is a pretty good description of what Freeman did.

It took stuff like Coddington’s _Gettysburg Campaign_ to really point out that one reason that the South lost was due to good generalship and handling of good troops by the Union as well.

Yeah Foner, my prof’s old pal criticized Freeman for contributing to that.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:42:36am
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Scottish Dragon  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:43:57am

re: #362 HappyWarrior

That would be an interesting twist. I don’t recall if there were any disparacies in the witness descriptions of the killer. I dunno. For some reason, Allen as the Zodiac didn’t seem to fit for me, granted I’ve never seen photos of him at that time but he always seemed a little too short and stout to be the man in the sketch but it’s just that, a sketch.

One person doing the writing and code….but remember that something like 37 killings are possibly attributed to Zodiac and we can’t be sure what he took credit for is what he did and vise versa.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:44:39am

re: #266 makeitstop

LOL

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Wish Hillary Was Here Instead?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:45:07am

re: #373 Scottish Dragon

One person doing the writing and code….but remember that something like 37 killings are possibly attributed to Zodiac and we can’t be sure what he took credit for is what he did and vise versa.

Good points.

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:45:25am

In not a sad a topic: as I noted earlier this week, ESA planned to release the round 2 data from the Gaia satellite today:

The second Gaia data release was made public on 25 April 2018 and includes the position and brightness of almost 1.7 billion stars, and the parallax, proper motion and colour of more than 1.3 billion stars. It also includes the radial velocity of more than seven million stars, the surface temperature of more than 100 million stars, and the amount of dust intervening between us and of 87 million stars. There are also more than 500 000 variable sources, and the position of 14 099 known Solar System objects - most of them asteroids - included in the release.

And making a map means you can make an image of the map. Here are the brightest sources in your sky:

Image: ESA_Gaia_DR2_AllSky_Brightness_Colour_black_bg_4k.jpg

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ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:45:30am

re: #338 plansbandc

It’s astonishing to me how so many people loathe immigrants. And that hatred has been a hallmark of this country since the very beginning. FFS

Immigrants shaped this country. They continue to help shape this country.

I hate that they are constantly used as political pawns.

It’s been that way since this country was formed…by immigrants.

How much of this country was built by African Americans and Chinese labor? We might not have had a sea-to-sea railroad system and all kinds of other infrastructure without their labor.

Same could be said for Irish, Italian and Jewish people that came to this country searching for a new life. They all took the jobs that many already here would not have touched.

We should be proud of them and honor their contributions. They really made America.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:46:19am

re: #372 Ace-o-aces

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Utah Hornets may actually work because Utah’s the bee hive state. But I ahve to admit, I’ve gotten used to it just like the L.A Dodgers.. Romney wearing a jersey over a dress shirt though? HAhaa. So awkward.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:47:53am

re: #368 HappyWarrior

He had a hood on didn’t he? And eyewitness testimony is only so reliable. I think we’ll never know but perhaps something will come up eventually.

The crazy getup that we’re all familiar with was only used once in the attack at Lake Berryessa. I’d think something like that is pretty damned noticeable.

Not an easy look to rock. Even on Halloween.
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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:48:33am

re: #377 ObserverArt

It’s been that way since this country was formed…by immigrants.

How much of this country was built by African Americans and Chinese labor? We might not have had a sea-to-sea railroad system and all kinds of other infrastructure without their labor.

Same could be said for Irish, Italian and Jewish people that came to this country searching for a new life. They all took the jobs that many already here would not have touched.

We should be proud of them and honor their contributions. They really made America.

I have this idea should I ever teach to have my students do a small family tree and to bring in a food stuff from one of their cultures. Italian-American kid could bring cannolis, Polish-American kid could bring in pierogis, Vietnamese-American kid could bring pho, etc. I like food as a way of bringing people together. I fell in love with Peruvian food after my brother got married to a Peruvian-American.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:48:52am

re: #379 Dr Lizardo

The crazy getup that we’re all familiar with was only used once in the attack at Lake Berryessa. I’d think something like that is pretty damned noticeable.

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Ah okay, so he only wore the hood once.

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:49:27am

That’s a lot of stars but that’s only about 1% of the stars in our galaxy.

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Belafon  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:50:27am

re: #382 freetoken

That’s a lot of stars but that’s only about 1% of the stars in our galaxy.

Yeah, I want a full map. //

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:50:59am

re: #370 Kafitrar

The media wants the government to unseal the materials used to obtain Mueller’s search warrants in his investigation. They say it could be newsworthy and that the material has been sealed much longer than in other cases.

IOW: They want to pick it apart and find some procedural fault that could be used to justify suspending the entire investigation or at least discrediting its findings.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:52:43am

If I didn’t have social anxiety in front of large groups, I think I’d make a decent history teacher. I’m also not in a big rush to go back to school for my certificate either.

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Varek Raith  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:53:49am

re: #383 Belafon

Yeah, I want a full map. //

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:54:09am

re: #383 Belafon

Yeah, I want a full map. //

That will cost you extra.

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Varek Raith  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:55:53am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:56:35am

Okay, let’s break this down:

What about when Liberals say “the system is rigged against blacks and POC”?

Is there any empirical evidence of this? Actually, yes, there is, from the NBER ‘names’ study to the drastically different rates of incarceration FOR EXACTLY THE SAME CRIME, to the drastically different severity of sentences for similar amounts of different forms of cocaine, to the much higher rates of finding contraband on white folks stopped in ‘Stop And Frisk’ compared to POCs.

These are all objectively verifiable differences in the treatment of POCs that do not depend on perception, or self-reporting.

That sounds like conspiracy. We can’t agree on reality, truth, or trust each other. We are lost.

Because Conservatives do not accept empirical observation and reason as means of reaching truth. They refuse to accept any facts that do not comport with their worldview.

If Conservatives would agree that KNOWLEDGE is more important than BELIEF for ascertaining truth, we might be able to communicate.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:57:38am

re: #372 Ace-o-aces

Also, why does UTAH have a basketball team named JAZZ? I’d imagine Jazz was illegal there until, like, 1998.

The moved there from New Orleans, where the name made sense.

The Tennesee Titans used to be the (formerly Houston) Oilers and changed their name because I guess the only oil in Tennessee was what Jed Clampett found while shootin’ up some food…

NB:

We used to play country music in Fredonia, AZ, just a few miles across the Utah line, where there were still no bars until Utah legalized public liquor sales in time for the Winter Olympics, although Moab County, across the border from Fredonia, is still dry

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Kafitrar  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:57:58am

re: #384 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

IOW: They want to pick it apart and find some procedural fault that could be used to justify suspending the entire investigation or at least discrediting its findings.

I don’t know about that. The request covers George Papadopoulos, Rick Gates, and 13 Russian nationals who worked for the Internet Research Agency. Papadopoulos and Gates have already pleaded guilty.

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2018 • 9:59:01am

re: #388 Varek Raith

That is an artist’s interpretation though, based on some data.

Most of the stars in the galaxy are not visible to us, and the structure of the galaxy is partly hidden. Only recently, with lots of imaging from non-visible wavelengths, has some of the structure been discernable.

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Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:01:19am

re: #386 Varek Raith

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*sighs, boots up Google Maps*

This is gonna be a long trip.

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jeffreyw  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:01:56am

re: #349 Feline Fearless Leader

What ransom is the woodpecker demanding for the return of the feeder?

He wants us to put his dead 🌲 back up.

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ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:03:38am

re: #384 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

IOW: They want to pick it apart and find some procedural fault that could be used to justify suspending the entire investigation or at least discrediting its findings.

They could also want it to shut the Republicans like Nunes, Jordan, Meadows up and to make Fox News look bad too.

I think many in the media want to protect their companies from being labeled Fake News™ all the time. They may be sick of Trump, Fox and others from using it.

If it is clear the searches were all legit and the info good that shuts up a whole lot of people that are trying to slime Mueller.

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Varek Raith  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:04:10am

re: #392 freetoken

More accurate map;
Image: MapGalaxy.jpg
:P

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:04:18am

re: #389 Blind Frog Belly White

Because Conservatives do not accept empirical observation and reason as means of reaching truth. They refuse to accept any facts that do not comport with their worldview.

You don’t get it: when you are in possession of A HIGHER TRUTH, then mere facts are irrelevant.

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ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:06:04am

re: #385 HappyWarrior

If I didn’t have social anxiety in front of large groups, I think I’d make a decent history teacher. I’m also not in a big rush to go back to school for my certificate either.

Happy, don’t let that stop you. Anxiety in front of large groups is normal for a lot of people, not just people with your condition. I bet if you did it a few times you’d break right through that barrier. You know and like history so much once you got to talking about it, I think all the anxiety would fade.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:07:41am

re: #398 ObserverArt

Happy, don’t let that stop you. Anxiety in front of large groups is normal for a lot of people, not just people with your condition. I bet if you did it a few times you’d break right through that barrier. You know and like history so much once you got to talking about it, I think all the anxiety would fade.

Yeah I’ve had people tell me that. I’m just not in a rush to get the certificate. It would be fun though because I’d try to make it interactive and encourage discussion.

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:10:51am

The image I previously linked is a map, which means precise equivalent-to-lat-and-long positions.

But 8-bit jpegs don’t have enough bit depth to give the actual brightness difference in stars, and even the color jepg at 3x8bit cannot (because the colors of most stars are very similar, and the human eye cannot discriminate small changes in some colors very well), there are other ways to look at the data.

ESA also put out a density drawing of all 1.7 billion light sources, which will look a bit more like a photograph:

[…]

Brighter regions indicate denser concentrations of stars, while darker regions correspond to patches of the sky where fewer stars are observed. In contrast to the brightness map in colour, which is dominated by the brightest and most massive stars, this view shows the distribution of all stars, including faint and distant ones.

The bright horizontal structure that dominates the image is the Galactic plane, the flattened disc that hosts most of the stars in our home Galaxy, with the Galactic centre in the middle.

The elongated feature visible below the Galactic centre and pointing in the downwards direction is the Sagittarius dwarf galaxy, a small satellite of the Milky Way that is leaving a stream of stars behind as an effect of our Galaxy’s gravitational tug. This faint feature is only visible in this view, and not in the all-sky map based on the luminosity of stars, which is dominated by bright sources.

Darker regions across the Galactic plane correspond to foreground clouds of interstellar gas and dust, which absorb the light of stars located further away, behind the clouds. Many of these conceal stellar nurseries where new generations of stars are being born.

Sprinkled across the image are also many globular and open clusters - groupings of stars held together by their mutual gravity, as well as entire galaxies beyond our own.

The two bright objects in the lower right of the image are the Large and Small Magellanic Clouds, two dwarf galaxies orbiting the Milky Way. Other nearby galaxies are also visible, most notably the Milky Way’s largest galactic neighbour the Andromeda galaxy (also known as M31), seen in the lower left of the image along with its satellite, the Triangulum galaxy (M33).

[…]

Image: ESA_Gaia_DR2_AllSky_Density_black_bg_4k.jpg

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:11:01am

re: #397 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You don’t get it: when you are in possession of A HIGHER TRUTH, then mere facts are irrelevant.

This is the problem - for years, they’ve been told that anything that disagrees with their preferred reality must be false, and that THEY are the ones who are hardnosed realists.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:12:58am

re: #397 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You don’t get it: when you are in possession of A HIGHER TRUTH, then mere facts are irrelevant.

Any lawyer who is a member of the Federalist Society should not be appointed to any court; they are all blinded by their ideology and reject evidence that does not comport with that ideology. I’m one of those who thought Harriet Miers would make a far better judge than those who might be nominally more brilliant, but lack the character to actually provide justice.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:13:20am

re: #401 Blind Frog Belly White

This is the problem - for years, they’ve been told that anything that disagrees with their preferred reality must be false, and that THEY are the ones who are hardnosed realists.

and it has gone beyond that, those who disagree are not just false, they are anti-American and sub-human…

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dangerman  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:16:16am

just dropping in for a moment.
i’ve got deadlines…..

the current president* of the united states is a constant fucking liar

he doesnt get a pass just cause it’s via twitter and “not under oath”

his rantings are a reflection of his character, not some sort of “time out” from it

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:17:07am

re: #401 Blind Frog Belly White

This is the problem - for years, they’ve been told that anything that disagrees with their preferred reality must be false, and that THEY are the ones who are hardnosed realists.

I can’t tell you how many conservatives I encoutner that insist “conservatives are rational and logic while liberals are irrational and emotional.”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:17:46am

re: #404 dangerman

just dropping in for a moment.
i’ve got deadlines…..

the current president* of the united states is a constant fucking liar

he doesnt get a pass just cause it’s via twitter and “not under oath”

his rantings are a reflection of his character, not some sort of “time out” from it

He’s posted as the President and he made his postings as a presidential candidate.

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Alephnaught  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:19:56am

re: #266 makeitstop

LOL

[Embedded content: “which pink floyd album is this”]

Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of Led Zeppelin’s “Presence”. You could drop in that object from the cover art in place of that tree.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:19:56am

So Uncle Ben wants Section 8 recipients to go to work and he wants to raise their rents.

Now we know how he’ll pay for that new dining room set…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:21:26am

re: #385 HappyWarrior

If I didn’t have social anxiety in front of large groups, I think I’d make a decent history teacher. I’m also not in a big rush to go back to school for my certificate either.

My anti-depressant makes me fearless, so talking to a crowd is no longer a problem. having noticed that most people are stupid helps too.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:21:46am

re: #403 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and it has gone beyond that, those who disagree are not just false, they are anti-American and sub-human…

This is really the key, and why I blame Newt Gingrich as such a key figure in our poisonous discourse. He encouraged Republicans to see everything as an existential battle between good and evil, to demonize - even literally - their opponents. And Gingrich clearly is completely cynical about it - he’ll say diametrically opposite things on successive days, and to do it without shame. Factchecking only works on people capable of shame, and Gingrich pointed Republicans to a future where shameless lying would be their key to power.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:22:01am

re: #404 dangerman

just dropping in for a moment.
i’ve got deadlines…..

the current president* of the united states is a constant fucking liar

he doesnt get a pass just cause it’s via twitter and “not under oath”

his rantings are a reflection of his character, not some sort of “time out” from it

The question is what can be legally prosecuted. And lying to the public is not a crime in this instance. All politicians lie or shade the truth; it’s only if they lie while under oath or in official testimony that it becomes a crime. Yes — he may lie 100 times as often as a typical politician — and it shows a serious wont of character and demonstrates daily that he is not fit for the office — but those who voted for him don’t care and neither does the GOP.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:22:39am

re: #409 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

My anti-depressant makes me fearless, so talking to a crowd is no longer a problem. having noticed that most people are stupid helps too.

I’ve gotten better since I started taking Lexapro but 20-25 people? Plus I’d be a sucker when it comes to grading too.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:22:40am

re: #405 HappyWarrior

I can’t tell you how many conservatives I encoutner that insist “conservatives are rational and logic while liberals are irrational and emotional.”

Tell dummies that they’re the real smart people, and they’ll happily embrace your fantasy world, and beg for more.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:23:23am

re: #413 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Tell dummies that they’re the real smart people, and they’ll happily embrace your fantasy world, and beg for more.

My favorite is how liberals are both elites and the ones mooching off your hard earned tax dollars.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:24:11am

re: #412 HappyWarrior

I’ve gotten better since I started taking Lexapro but 20-25 people? Plus I’d be a sucker when it comes to grading too.

We’re basically on the same drug, but yours is twice as effective by weight. 25 people is nothing. Some people speak in front of hundreds of people.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:24:42am

re: #413 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Tell dummies that they’re the real smart people, and they’ll happily embrace your fantasy world, and beg for more.

The Trumpsters I know would do well on IQ tests. The problem is not that they are unintelligent but that there is something warped in their moral character.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:24:45am

re: #415 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

We’re basically on the same drug, but yours is twice as effective by weight. 25 people is nothing. Some people speak in front of hundreds of people.

True true.

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Weaselone  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:26:14am

re: #402 Hecuba’s daughter

Any lawyer who is a member of the Federalist Society should not be appointed to any court; they are all blinded by their ideology and reject evidence that does not comport with that ideology. I’m one of those who thought Harriet Miers would make a far better judge than those who might be nominally more brilliant, but lack the character to actually provide justice.

I think Democrats missed an opportunity with Miers. She wasn’t up to par on an intellectual level, but let’s be honest that’s the case with most of the Conservative justices who are largely geniuses only in their own minds and the minds of morons. She would, I believe have been a less partisan juror.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:27:45am

re: #414 HappyWarrior

My favorite is how liberals are both elites and the ones mooching off your hard earned tax dollars.

no, there is a system to that: remember “The Plantation”?, remember how Democrats are the ones who invented slavery and that the elites are now just trying to keep blacks down and dependent on government Free Stuff so they can buy their votes?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:28:38am

re: #418 Weaselone

I think Democrats missed an opportunity with Miers. She wasn’t up to par on an intellectual level, but let’s be honest that’s the case with most of the Conservative justices who are largely geniuses only in their own minds and the minds of morons. She would, I believe have been a less partisan juror.

In hindsight, yeah Miers would be better than Alito. I do agree with you about conservative jurists. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard Republican candidates use Scalia as a model judge ignoring that Scalia used his own prejudices as much as the “judicial activists” they hate. I’d still take Scalia over Thomas though. Thomas is the worst.

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lawhawk  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:29:04am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:29:23am

re: #419 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

no, there is a system to that: remember “The Plantation”?, remember how Democrats are the ones who invented slavery and that the elites are now just trying to keep blacks down and dependent on government Free Stuff so they can buy their votes?

Oh I know. And I want to smack someone the next time I ehar the Plantation. Being loyal to a political party is different than being enslaved ffs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:32:12am

re: #422 HappyWarrior

Oh I know. And I want to smack someone the next time I ehar the Plantation. Being loyal to a political party is different than being enslaved ffs.

And that modern Democrats are somehow the same party as the Southern Democrats of the 50’s and 60’s…

as if the GOP were the same party it was in 1956

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:33:22am

re: #423 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And that modern Democrats are somehow the same party as the Southern Democrats of the 50’s and 60’s…

as if the GOP were the same party it was in 1956

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What the hell happened to that party? Oh right, Southern Strategy.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:36:40am

re: #424 HappyWarrior

What the hell happened to that party? Oh right, Southern Strategy.

And Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Breitbart, Infowars, etc, etc.

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Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:38:57am

re: #424 HappyWarrior

What the hell happened to that party? Oh right, Southern Strategy.

It was earlier than that. Nixon simply tapped into a wellspring of white anxiety that sprung up under the successive passage of the CRA/VRA and the Great Society legislation (Medicare/Medicaid, expansion of Social Security). When the Civil Rights movement meant whites had to share all that prosperity, that’s when the GOP recognized there was a ready market for that Ol’ Time Hatred.

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:41:02am

I just looked up what incel means.

Jesus.

More red pill/gorilla mindset/PUA bad craziness.

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:41:54am

Neat things to do with maps, especially star maps:

Among the videos released today by ESA is one that shows parallax, that illustrates how closer stars appear to move more significantly during the year than the distant stars.

Movements have been exaggerated by 100,000x to make it obvious to the human eye:

360º Parallax and proper motion on the sky

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:42:52am

re: #426 Targetpractice

It was earlier than that. Nixon simply tapped into a wellspring of white anxiety that sprung up under the successive passage of the CRA/VRA and the Great Society legislation (Medicare/Medicaid, expansion of Social Security). When the Civil Rights movement meant whites had to share all that prosperity, that’s when the GOP recognized there was a ready market for that Ol’ Time Hatred.

Also now religious anxiety, with Rod Dreher as the lead prophet warning that the great post Christian GLBT hordes are coming to punish the faithful.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:43:29am

re: #426 Targetpractice

It was earlier than that. Nixon simply tapped into a wellspring of white anxiety that sprung up under the successive passage of the CRA/VRA and the Great Society legislation (Medicare/Medicaid, expansion of Social Security). When the Civil Rights movement meant whites had to share all that prosperity, that’s when the GOP recognized there was a ready market for that Ol’ Time Hatred.

When did the Birchers get started? The rightwing was pretty kooky even before the CRA. There was JFK-hate in Texas before ‘64, even during ‘60 I think when LBJ was nearly mobbed in Dallas, IIRC.

Maybe it was the anti-Communist witch-hunts in the late ‘40’s and early ‘50’s.

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dangerman  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:45:57am

oh, and currently:

YouTube

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:48:19am

One more geeking out over astrometry:

Another video released today, from the new Gaia data, is showing the orbits of asteroids in our solar system. Gaia is tracking over 14 thousand of these things.

Super neat:

Gaia’s first asteroid survey

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Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:51:18am

re: #430 Sir John Barron

When did the Birchers get started? The rightwing was pretty kooky even before the CRA. There was JFK-hate in Texas before ‘64, even during ‘60 I think when LBJ was nearly mobbed in Dallas, IIRC.

Maybe it was the anti-Communist witch-hunts in the late ‘40’s and early ‘50’s.

The Birchers and the anti-Commie crowd had had some success before the Civil Rights movement in convincing Americans that the New Deal programs were “socialism.” But when LBJ used SS as the basis to create new programs and expand access to minorities, that’s when they found a ready crowd of white people angry over what they saw as “their tax dollars” going to “socialists.” Hell, to this day there’s a vein of belief in conservative dogma that the whole Civil Rights movement was a ploy by the USSR to weaken America and men like Dr. King were in reality “Soviet agents.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:52:49am

re: #433 Targetpractice

The Birchers and the anti-Commie crowd had had some success before the Civil Rights movement in convincing Americans that the New Deal programs were “socialism.” But when LBJ used SS as the basis to create new programs and expand access to minorities, that’s when they found a ready crowd of white people angry over what they saw as “their tax dollars” going to “socialists.” Hell, to this day there’s a vein of belief in conservative dogma that the whole Civil Rights movement was a ploy by the USSR to weaken America and men like Dr. King were in reality “Soviet agents.”

everything from rock and roll to comic books were a “communist plot” back then

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:53:54am

re: #430 Sir John Barron

When did the Birchers get started? The rightwing was pretty kooky even before the CRA. There was JFK-hate in Texas before ‘64, even during ‘60 I think when LBJ was nearly mobbed in Dallas, IIRC.

Maybe it was the anti-Communist witch-hunts in the late ‘40’s and early ‘50’s.

I think you have the right Genesis. Though the Anti New Dealers were pretty kooky too.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:54:36am

Don’t ever forget that Buckley got his start as an apologist for McCarthy. That alone makes me weary of the attempts to make WFB something otehr than what he was.

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wrenchwench  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:57:27am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:57:52am

re: #427 Scottish Dragon

I just looked up what incel means.

Jesus.

More red pill/gorilla mindset/PUA bad craziness.

red pill = brown acid. Don’t take the brown acid.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 10:59:07am

re: #427 Scottish Dragon

I just looked up what incel means.

Jesus.

More red pill/gorilla mindset/PUA bad craziness.

I was aware of the concept, but not the term or the fact that it had evolved into a movement…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:02:59am

re: #439 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I was aware of the concept, but not the term or the fact that it had evolved into a movement…

The internet can make anything into a movement. Many of which belong in the toilet.

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:04:32am

I lied.

One more video from today’s data dump:

The Hyades are a close open cluster of stars. Easy to find once you’re pointed to them in the night sky. They are close, only about 150 light years away.

ESA made a video that orients one to find the Hyades starting with looking in the direction of Orion.

Then, because distances and relative coordinates are known for these stars, fly us through the local neighborhood to the Hyades.

Then we stop, and fly around the cluster to get a perspective on how the individual members of the cluster are distributed.

Finally, as the stellar velocities are known, the stars are let to fly off in time for a bit:

The Hyades cluster

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Kragar  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:06:08am
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Sir John Barron  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:09:09am

re: #442 Kragar

So the “Deep State” was going to mount a coup against Obama?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:09:10am

re: #442 Kragar

[Embedded content]

So Corsi is saying he knows people who planned treason. I doubt he actually does beacuse I doubt anyone high up in the military would talk to a pos ike Corsi about anything let alone a plot.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:09:23am

re: #443 Sir John Barron

So the “Deep State” was going to mount a coup against Obama?

But that’s okay because they were on our side!

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Belafon  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:09:48am

re: #442 Kragar

As much as everyone wants to think the military will step in and save us at whatever time from whatever thing, they won’t. They are fundamentally not set up to do that.

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Belafon  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:10:50am

Plus, Trump is obviously running for his ego, and possibly for Putin.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:11:31am

re: #442 Kragar

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So he knew of this treason and didn’t alert anyone. He needs arrested for accomplice to treason.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:11:33am

re: #442 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Assholes like Corsi really make me wish we had British libel laws.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:11:40am

I genuinely hate these people.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:11:51am

re: #444 HappyWarrior

So Corsi is saying he knows people who planned treason. I doubt he actually does beacuse I doubt anyone high up in the military would talk to a pos ike Corsi about anything let alone a plot.

Exactly

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:11:59am

re: #448 Eventual Carrion

So he knew of this treason and didn’t alert anyone. He needs arrested for accomplice to treason.

Accomplice to conspiracy but yes.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:12:30am

re: #451 Eventual Carrion

Exactly

He should get writing. That book on why the 2020 Dem nominee is Satan isn’t going to write itself!

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lawhawk  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:12:33am

Some serious shade:

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:13:12am
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wrenchwench  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:14:08am

re: #454 lawhawk

Some serious shade:

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Simultaneous shade and sunshine.

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MsJ  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:18:29am

re: #270 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:24:36am

re: #457 MsJ

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:26:47am
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b.d. (Perfect Smokey Eye)  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:29:56am
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Sir John Barron  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:31:44am

re: #459 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Well, who amongst us does not have 750 homes to spare?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:32:14am

re: #461 Sir John Barron

Well, who amongst us does not have 750 homes to spare?

Losers?

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Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:33:16am

So according to Jerome Corsi, there is a cabal of military officers who possess the power and means to remove an elected government via a coup, BUT he will not tell the public who they are even though they could just as easily decide they don’t like Trump either and remove him from power.

Yeah, totally believable.

/////////

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:36:06am

re: #463 Targetpractice

So according to Jerome Corsi, there is a cabal of military officers who possess the power and means to remove an elected government via a coup, BUT he will not tell the public who they are even though they could just as easily decide they don’t like Trump either and remove him from power.

Yeah, totally believable.

/////////

We should waterboard him until he gives up the names, just in case. Accusations of treason plots are very serious.

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Kragar  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:36:40am

re: #463 Targetpractice

So according to Jerome Corsi, there is a cabal of military officers who possess the power and means to remove an elected government via a coup, BUT he will not tell the public who they are even though they could just as easily decide they don’t like Trump either and remove him from power.

Yeah, totally believable.

/////////

These would be the same officers who allegedly stopped Obama from nuking a US city by hijacking the weapon and detonating it in the mid-Atlantic, right?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:36:45am

re: #463 Targetpractice

So according to Jerome Corsi, there is a cabal of military officers who possess the power and means to remove an elected government via a coup, BUT he will not tell the public who they are even though they could just as easily decide they don’t like Trump either and remove him from power.

Yeah, totally believable.

/////////

Corsi has his head so far up Trump’s ass that he never thought about that when he made up this bs story.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:37:04am

My dad commented on Trump grooming Macron, so I sent him the pic from upthread.

I’m lucky to have a sane father who does not watch Fox.

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Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:37:19am

re: #461 Sir John Barron

Well, who amongst us does not have 750 homes to spare?

I’m just waiting for that huge, awesome raise from the tax cuts to kick in and I’ll be able to afford my own!

//////

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:38:13am

re: #467 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

My dad commented on Trump grooming Macron, so I sent him the pic from upthread.

I’m lucky to have a sane father who does not watch Fox.

My Dad’s in the demo that favored Trump the most- over 65, high school educated, white guys. Thankfully he can’t stand Trump and neither can my aunts and uncles. In fact, I don’t know of a single close relative who can.

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Jay C  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:38:34am

re: #463 Targetpractice

So according to Jerome Corsi, there is a cabal of military officers who possess the power and means to remove an elected government via a coup, BUT he will not tell the public who they are even though they could just as easily decide they don’t like Trump either and remove him from power.

Yeah, totally believable.

/////////

Most likely, the only “officers” who’d speak to Corsi are a few lower-rankers in the 101st Chairborne, “leaking” “details” of their “cabal” over a few too many at Michael McMickey’s Ould Blarney Pub….

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:40:12am

re: #470 Jay C

Most likely, the only “officers” who’d speak to Corsi are a few lower-rankers in the 101st Chairborne, “leaking” “details” of their “cabal” over a few too many at Michael McMickey’s Ould Blarney Pub….

Or Gene Simmons of the KISS Army.

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Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:40:30am

re: #465 Kragar

These would be the same officers who allegedly stopped Obama from nuking a US city by hijacking the weapon and detonating it in the mid-Atlantic, right?

No doubt. Apparently wingnuts believe that a large portion of our military is composed of treasonous bastards who would violate their oath at the drop of a hat if they just decided they didn’t like the guy in the White House.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:43:03am

re: #469 HappyWarrior

My Dad’s in the demo that favored Trump the most- over 65, high school educated, white guys. Thankfully he can’t stand Trump and neither can my aunts and uncles. In fact, I don’t know of a single close relative who can.

My brother’s nuts from Fox, and his kids are our family’s future, so that’s not great.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:43:56am

re: #474 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

My brother’s nuts from Fox, and his kids are our family’s future, so that’s not great.

That’s too bad. I do have some second cousins who unfortunately are a bit nutty. Honestly? Nice people but man politically I don’t even,

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:44:39am

What has to kill the wingnuts is knowing the military brass respected Obama more than Trump.

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Jay C  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:44:50am

re: #471 Kragar

ICYMI:

Obama Ousts Top Officers After Nuke Explodes in Ocean Instead of Charleston

I liked Snopes’ characterization of the source of these “news items”:

Sorcha Faal is the alleged author of an ongoing series of “reports” published at whatdoesitmean.com, whose work is of such quality that even other conspiracy nutters don’t think much of it.

So probably just what Jerome Corsi would be likely to run with….

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:46:33am

re: #475 HappyWarrior

That’s too bad. I do have some second cousins who unfortunately are a bit nutty. Honestly? Nice people but man politically I don’t even,

Same deal with my brother’s family. Nice, but misguided people.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:49:28am

re: #476 HappyWarrior

What has to kill the wingnuts is knowing the military brass respected Obama more than Trump.

They’re just happy that the low-level cannon-fodder likes Trump.

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Kragar  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:52:00am

re: #477 Jay C

Garrow & Rush: Obama Should Be Tried And Executed Over Mythical EMP Plot

Garrow and Rush, a Fox News regular, have both insisted that Obama almost nuked America until three anonymous members of the military [brass] blocked his deadly plan, which Garrow claims was meant to help George Soros make money by betting against the US dollar.

“People were looking and started looking at this whole notion that there could have been this EMP event being planned,” Garrow said. “300 million people would have died within a year if it hadn’t been for those three individuals who took a bullet, basically a career bullet, a career-ending bullet, and maybe a life-ending bullet, we’ll have to see, we will have to safeguard them by getting the details out there.”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:52:59am

re: #478 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Same deal with my brother’s family. Nice, but misguided people.

Yeah my moms cousins are nice people but they vote solely on choice. My grandmother’s sister was the only HRC voter in the bunch.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:53:40am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:56:46am

re: #482 HappyWarrior

Wtf.

I give up. There’s no bargaining with these people. Total lost cause.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:58:43am

re: #483 Eclectic Cyborg

I give up. There’s no bargaining with these people. Total lost cause.

Yeah how am I supposed to talk reasonably with people who think that way? This isn’t a difference of opinion, it’s a difference of reality.

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ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2018 • 11:59:58am

re: #482 HappyWarrior

Wtf.

You know what the main word is in some of that wingnut BS?

“If”

Yeah, it could happen “if.”

Always with the weasel words. The fools that buy that bullshit never hear the weasel words, they run with the meat of the story as if it true.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:11:12pm

re: #415 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

We’re basically on the same drug, but yours is twice as effective by weight. 25 people is nothing. Some people speak in front of hundreds of people.

Also, like anything else, it gets easier with practice. My high school stressed that and while I hated it at the time, it served me really well in grad school.

My first major conference presentation and I had an error message pop up to cover the middle third of my slides about halfway through the talk. It was on the projector, so nothing I could do to fix it. You just shrug and move on, and I had multiple people tell me afterwards that they were impressed by how little it flustered me.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:13:34pm

re: #486 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Also, like anything else, it gets easier with practice. My high school stressed that and while I hated it at the time, it served me really well in grad school.

My first major conference presentation and I had an error message pop up to cover the middle third of my slides about halfway through the talk. It was on the projector, so nothing I could do to fix it. You just shrug and move on, and I had multiple people tell me afterwards that they were impressed by how little it flustered me.

You’re very right. I’m actually going to be training my third intern tomorrow and I don’t feel nervous about it at all really.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 25, 2018 • 5:22:39pm

re: #430 Sir John Barron

Goes earlier than that. Lots of grumbling about the New Deal in GOP circles in the 1930s.


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