Comedians Continue Outdoing the Media: Stephen Colbert: Donald Trump Is Denying U.S. Intel and Reality
The President’s rejection of U.S. intelligence speaks to his larger inability to accept reality.
The President’s rejection of U.S. intelligence speaks to his larger inability to accept reality.
Speaking of comedians, Ellen Page was on Colbert yesterday and she absolutely laid the SMACK down on Mike Pence.
If you haven’t already, stop what you’re doing and watch @EllenPage’s powerful truths in @colbertlateshow. @realDonaldTrump & @VP, are you listening?pic.twitter.com/XZceQlDYu9
— Mark Ruffalo (@MarkRuffalo) February 1, 2019
re: #1 mmmirele
Speaking of comedians, Ellen Page was on Colbert yesterday and she absolutely laid the SMACK down on Mike Pence.
Like they’re going to listen to a lesbian.
gaaaah
Great news on Foxconn in Wisconsin after my conversation with Terry Gou! https://t.co/2wtuCdl7TX
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 1, 2019
“We added 304,000 jobs, which was a shocker to a lot of people. It wasn’t a shocker to me.” pic.twitter.com/hHzogMtXG5
— The White House (@WhiteHouse) February 1, 2019
Thank you to Senator Rob Portman and Senator Cory Gardner for the early and warm endorsement. We will ALL WIN in 2020 together!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 1, 2019
#breaking A senior administration official and a second source with knowledge tell @PamelaBrownCNN the current plan is for the second summit between President Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un to be held in the Vietnamese coastal city of Da Nang. Plan is being finalized.
— Will Ripley (@willripleyCNN) February 1, 2019
That was way faster than I expected. https://t.co/tC3g76ZfNI
— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) February 1, 2019
re: #1 mmmirele
Wow. A very powerful message indeed.
re: #5 Single-handed sailor
Bone-spurred draft dodger thinks everyone has forgotten.
I’ve spent decades covering human trafficking, and I find this sentiment so exploitative. Yes, women immigrants are fleeing assault, or are assaulted on the journey. So why refuse asylum? Why send them back to be assaulted? Why seize their children? Why demonize them as threats? https://t.co/2l30WRLKI0
— Nicholas Kristof (@NickKristof) February 1, 2019
Immigrant Panic Tactical Fail
re: #9 jaunte
I’ve spent decades covering human trafficking, and I find this sentiment so exploitative. Yes, women immigrants are fleeing assault, or are assaulted on the journey. So why refuse asylum? Why send them back to be assaulted? Why seize their children? Why demonize them as threats?
— Nicholas Kristof
Because shut up
re: #7 ObserverArt
What is this Rob Portman endorsing Trump shit???
From The Hill yesterday:
Gardner, Portman endorse Trump for 2020
Another previous Republican critic of Trump, Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio), also offered his endorsement to the president, telling IJR that he was backing Trump, because he’s already in the White House.
“He’s the incumbent,” Portman said. “I mean, he’s in office, I work with him every day.”
“I disagree with him publicly and privately when appropriate,” he added. “But I also get a lot done, and I get that done with him. So we work with the White House, and I think that’s important for Ohio.”
Unlike Gardner, Portman isn’t up for reelection next year. But the Ohio Republican’s endorsement could potentially give Trump a boost in Ohio, one of the nation’s closest-watched electoral battlegrounds.
Oh Boy…
Could we be ready for something big?
I hope!https://t.co/m8LUUd4hW0— Brian Krassenstein (@krassenstein) February 1, 2019
re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth
“I disagree with him publicly and privately when appropriate,” he added. “But I also get a lot done, and I get that done with him. So we work with the White House, and I think that’s important for Ohio.”
A ringing endorsement.
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re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth
“I am so awesome to receive these Great endorsements which has never happened for any other president ever to get endorsements while being president how come FAKE News Media won’t report?”
/
Her name is Candice Payne. She is the woman who put 80 homeless people in hotel rooms during deep freeze in Chicago.
KNOW HER!
Retweet ❤ pic.twitter.com/EJgLwjSkjG— StanceGrounded (@_SJPeace_) February 1, 2019
re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth
From The Hill yesterday:
I hope this costs Portman and other Republicans Ohio.
I read the Hill article and immediately fired off a comment to Portman about it.
I swear, Portman is as dirty as Graham.
re: #13 Sir John Barron
A ringing endorsement.
/
The endorsement of a compromised wimp.
Exactly what I just wrote to Portman.
Mustard Honey Lemon Salmon #ShabbatShalom @KosherSoul pic.twitter.com/2INiNWMZi4
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) February 1, 2019
Moroccan Chicken #shabbatshalom @KosherSoul pic.twitter.com/MRvG8VaSfN
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) February 1, 2019
O_o
.@VP Pence: La lucha en Venezuela es entre la dictadura y la democracia, y la libertad tiene el impulso. Nicolas Maduro es un dictador sin derecho legítimo al poder, ¡y Nicolas Maduro debe irse! pic.twitter.com/gCamez83EX
— USA en Español (@USAenEspanol) February 1, 2019
. @VP Pence: The fight in Venezuela is between dictatorship and democracy, and freedom has the impetus. Nicolas Maduro is a dictator without legitimate right to power, and Nicolas Maduro must leave!
irony is ded
So frustrating to get a text from my doctor friend who is overwhelmed by a measles outbreak! One discredited doctor, some pseudoscience and a desperate but pretty🙄celebrity spread enough false information to create a health crisis of a preventable disease. #TrustScienceAgain
— Kari Byron (@KariByron) February 1, 2019
re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth
O_o
irony is ded
Maybe Madura will declare a National Emergency in response
(right wing scream of anguish)
Boy Scouts will allow girls for first time in 109 years https://t.co/hmQG0VMjFZ pic.twitter.com/Q1oCwvHZwe
— New York Post (@nypost) February 1, 2019
re: #23 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Flag patch is on the wrong shoulder of that kid’s uniform. Which just makes it even better for me.
my favorite story from black history is probably the one where you and your Klansman father were fined by the federal government for refusing to rent any of your tacky apartments to black people. that’s such a cool story bro, tell it again
— Jeff Tiedrich (@itsJeffTiedrich) February 1, 2019
re: #24 KGxvi
Flag patch is on the wrong shoulder of that kid’s uniform. Which just makes it even better for me.
it’s on the correct side as prescribed by the Boy Scout uniform guidelines
re: #18 The Vicious Babushka
If we ever have a LGF BBQ you and Jeffrey will be head chefs. I’ll be your sous chef any time. Just feed me wine, give me a knife and cutting board, and stuff to chop/slice/chiffonade.
re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth
Isn’t there supposed to be an ‘h’ in ghoul?
Which would explain a lot about conservative behaviour.
re: #26 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
it’s on the correct side as prescribed by the Boy Scout uniform guidelines
Left shoulder (top to bottom): council patch, unit number, unit anniversary strip (optional), office/position patch, Trained patch (optional, but training recommended for all registered adults and position-specific training is required for all unit leaders)
Right shoulder (top to bottom): US flag patch (unlike current US military placement, where the star field always faces toward the wearer’s front on both/either shoulder, as in a infantry charge, the BSA US flag patch always has the star field on the left side), patrol patch (youth), area for optional patches, Quality Unit patch
Awww, u mad? https://t.co/v00Pt2e6jO
— Rachel Maddow MSNBC (@maddow) February 1, 2019
re: #20 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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Saw the tweet about Jenny McCarthy and decided to go to Wiki to see what has been said about all of that since she first said her son had autism from the vaccinations back in 2007.
Now I am confused about what she was up to. Apparently she may have jumped the gun on her son’s autism.
Anyone else familiar with what is really going on? Did she cause a panic when it was even needed in her own son’s case?
From the very first paragraph under “Activism” is this:
In May 2007, McCarthy announced that her son Evan was diagnosed with autism in 2005. Before claiming that her son’s autism was caused by vaccination, McCarthy wrote that he was gifted, a “crystal child”, and she an “indigo mom”.[53] Evan’s disorder began with seizures and his improvement occurred after the seizures were treated, which symptoms experts have noted are more consistent with Landau-Kleffner syndrome, often misdiagnosed as autism.[6][7] She has denied that her son was misdiagnosed.[54][55] In a 2014 Daily Beast article, she says her son is now 12 and doing okay: “Evan’s amazing, … He doesn’t meet the diagnostic characteristics for autism. He definitely has quirks and issues from the seizures. He has a little bit of brain damage due to his seizures. He doesn’t qualify for any more services, but he does have issues in his school.”[8]
US Intel report-The Enemy Threat is US
That tension hinted at another threat, one that didn’t come up directly in Tuesday’s hearing but appeared prominently in a report last week from director of national intelligence Dan Coats: That various recent actions by the United States may be undermining its own security.
JFC this is completely out of hand.
Always a tweet https://t.co/IFkRvytEC5
— Bradley P. Moss (@BradMossEsq) February 1, 2019
Another infuriating day in Arkansas. The people of my city voted to pass an ordinance to protect LGBTQ’s bc the state REFUSED to. Arkansas AG sued us. Arkansas Supreme Court stripped us of our votes/rights. Plz share this tragic news. I need to sell my house & gtfo of this state! https://t.co/zF3LRXCOXc
— 💅🏽RagingFruitKace🌈 (@FruitKace) January 31, 2019
He went to Stanford, Yale, and got a Rhodes scholarship to Oxford.
He was a successful mayor and now Senator.
You got fired from The Blaze and make videos in your parents bathroom.
Sit down Tammy. https://t.co/t6mMapu29v— Tony Posnanski (@tonyposnanski) February 1, 2019
re: #34 Patricia Kayden
It amazes me how much energy some people are willing to put into disenfranchising and maligning others.
re: #32 Unshaken Defiance
US Intel report-The Enemy Threat is US
JFC this is completely out of hand.
Thanks for posting!
Yes, the unstated elephant/problem in the security room is Trump.
What is interesting is how more and more folks are finally willing to admit it. Even if it is not yet a majority in the Republican party.
I think that this shows a weakening Trump.
Which is a two edged sword. On one hand, we need to return to reality from Trump’s la-la land. On the other hand, when we hit a real crisis, the current administration (and the rest of us will be along for the ride) is going to be even less able to respond effectively to it.
Buckle up folks.
re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth
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She can laugh all she wants but he’s more of a success than she’ll ever be.
Author of “In Trump We Trust” now calls Trump “lazy and incompetent” and a “lunatic.”https://t.co/ks1uno3Yb3
— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) February 1, 2019
re: #34 Patricia Kayden
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Fucking assholes just don’t care about lgbt people as human beings with rights.
re: #40 HappyWarrior
Fucking assholes just don’t care about lgbt people as human beings with rights.
Yeah and imagine how much these same people would be screeching if the roles were were reversed and the State was overruling a discriminatory regulation for non-discriminatory one?
re: #34 Patricia Kayden
*Scratches Arkansas from places to consider moving.*
re: #41 Eclectic Cyborg
Yeah and imagine how much these same people would be screeching if the roles were were reversed and the State was overruling a discriminatory regulation for non-discriminatory one?
They don’t and they think things like same sex marriage discriminate against them.
City: We’ve decided we don’t want to be discriminatory assholes.
State: Too bad, you have to be discriminatory assholes whether you want to be or not!
City: Uh, what?
State: Religious Freedom!
City: …
1. Donald Trump’s reelection campaign just posted their FEC filing and it’s very odd.
It’s two years out and the campaign is spending way more than its taking it.
Over the last 3 months of 2018 it raised about 7 million and spent 23 million!— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) February 1, 2019
2. Much of this spending is completely opaque. Over $8 million went to American Made Media Consultants, LLC, a firm started last year by campaign manager Brad Parscale to buy ads and other stuff for the campaign.
Another $690,000 went to Parscale’s personal consulting firm— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) February 1, 2019
3. The purpose of the FEC reports is so the public can see how campaign funds are spent. American Made Media Consultants, LLC is just a legal fiction created to obscure how the Trump campaign is spending its money. And it’s spending A LOT.
Where is it all going?— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) February 1, 2019
re: #46 jaunte
I’m still in agreement with the Russian loan payment theory.
re: #46 jaunte
3. The purpose of the FEC reports is so the public can see how campaign funds are spent. American Made Media Consultants, LLC is just a legal fiction created to obscure how the Trump campaign is spending its money. And it’s spending A LOT.
Where is it all going?
— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) February 1, 2019
La Cosa Trump’s pockets.
Today on “Mall Ninja AF” we have a $1000 brass skull molle clip. It may be called Airsoft but you can still be the hardest penis doing it.
re: #49 goddamnedfrank
Today on “Mall Ninja AF” we have a $1000 brass skull molle clip. It may be called Airsoft but you can still be the hardest penis doing it.
Who fucking buys this shit, for that much fucking money?
/that was a rhetorical question…
re: #50 TedStriker
Unmarried fanboys with way too much disposable income.
His career is toast now.
BREAKING: Gov. Ralph Northam yearbook page shows blackface and Klan photohttps://t.co/6A89ejp5Ho
— The Virginian-Pilot (@virginianpilot) February 1, 2019
re: #54 The Vicious Babushka
In todays GOP climate, nothing is assured.
re: #55 Eclectic Cyborg
He’s a Democrat.
The anti-abortion crowd has been attacking him all day because of an abortion bill in VA.
Now conveniently this happens.
re: #57 freetoken
He’s a Democrat.
The anti-abortion crowd has been attacking him all day because of an abortion bill in VA.
Now conveniently this happens.
Oh, damn. Well, yeah then. His career is probably done for.
Democrats need to accept that if they have anything in their closet then the GOP operatives will use it against them, no matter how hypocritical the GOP may be.
re: #57 freetoken
He’s a Democrat.
The anti-abortion crowd has been attacking him all day because of an abortion bill in VA.
Now conveniently this happens.
Is that a Black guy in the Klan robe? Or did Rhett just forget to wash his hands after the weekly cross burnin’?
re: #54 The Vicious Babushka
Yeah, he’s toast. There’s no amount of spin that changes that. 1984? Yeah, you’re still toast.
This is what happens when you’re dealing with the confederacy, white supremacy, and all the awful racism that comes with it.
Racism bleeds across party lines, and is all over the place. Northam can try to claim that he’s very much changed from the Northam from that yearbook, but he will never escape that.
That’s the kind of institutional racism we have to overcome in the US.
And it continues because we’ve never truly had a reckoning with the Civil War and treated the South as the fucking losers that they were - both in losing the war, and in how they treated blacks - first as slaves, then as second class citizens, and that latter bit continues to this day in many parts of the country.
re: #61 lawhawk
Who would do that even in 1984? And in a yearbook? Not the blackface per se, but the KKK robe?
The Virginia conservatives who are shocked at white people appearing in blackface have two black presidential candidates to vote for, if they’re truly penitent.
Super Bowl wins by country #SuperBowl #SuperBowl53 #SuperBowlLIIIhttps://t.co/X0V6QiP53X pic.twitter.com/3o1nAZ3Nxt
— Terrible Maps (@TerribleMaps) February 1, 2019
Truth. pic.twitter.com/ROD5pttlnT
— Tripe Marketing Board (@TripeUK) February 1, 2019
I see that Warren and her taking a DNA test is trending again…
The Twitter summary blurb is not bad:
Sen. Warren apologized for “causing confusion on tribal sovereignty and tribal citizenship.” https://t.co/DTGiTZc8wd
— Twitter Moments (@TwitterMoments) February 1, 2019
Yet there are many takes that again just miss the mark, e.g. the CNN blurb:
Sen. Elizabeth Warren apologized to Cherokee Nation over her attempt to use a DNA test to confirm her past claims to Native American ancestry, the tribe says https://t.co/r98YHNkWQ2 pic.twitter.com/ToQfDReWZc
— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) February 1, 2019
The problem with the CNN blurb is that it makes taking DNA tests to learn about one’s past is a bad thing. That is not what Warren is apologizing for, nor for what the Cherokee nation is concerned.
And this is the typical MAGAdolt response:
So, Elizabeth Warren apologizes to the Cherokee Nation for lying about her Native American lineage.
She used that bs for a long time and now wants Native American votes!
Elizabeth is a liar! #CherokeeNation— ~~ Lady Liberty ♥️ ~~ (@libertyladyusa) February 1, 2019
what will it take for major outlets like the post to acknowledge the obvious ignorance of the current occupant of the white house instead of euphemisms like “seemed unclear”? a lot, i guess. https://t.co/qf58cSHAmg
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) February 1, 2019
Trump just tweeted someone else’s words because nobody trusts him to use the words “African Americans” in a sentence. #BlackHistoryMonth
— Laffy (@GottaLaff) February 1, 2019
goddamn you folk like to let your bigot flags fly.
Warren offended some because of claiming heritage *from a particular tribe*, and the Cherokee Nation objected. The DNA test did suggest she had a deep-in-the-pedigree native American ancestor.— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) February 1, 2019
How did this not come to light before now?
No one remembered the blackface and KKK garb?
A conservative activist first shared this at 2:15pm, but in a useful bit of fact checking by 4:30pm, “the Virginian-Pilot obtained a copy… from the Eastern Virginia Medical School library.” https://t.co/mIm5Q5gBOh
— Steve Inskeep (@NPRinskeep) February 1, 2019
re: #61 lawhawk
Yeah, he’s toast. There’s no amount of spin that changes that. 1984? Yeah, you’re still toast.
This is what happens when you’re dealing with the confederacy, white supremacy, and all the awful racism that comes with it.
Racism bleeds across party lines, and is all over the place. Northam can try to claim that he’s very much changed from the Northam from that yearbook, but he will never escape that.
That’s the kind of institutional racism we have to overcome in the US.
And it continues because we’ve never truly had a reckoning with the Civil War and treated the South as the fucking losers that they were - both in losing the war, and in how they treated blacks - first as slaves, then as second class citizens, and that latter bit continues to this day in many parts of the country.
That’s why if I see a politician (or wannabe politician) that went to VMI, the Citadel, or any other military academy south of the Mason-Dixon line, my face starts twitching, because stuff like this has been the prevailing culture and, as we’re now seeing with this suspiciously-timed “gotcha” on Northam, it’s become grounds for a (justifiably) sure and quick political death for Democrats.
GOPers have to be loving this…
re: #72 lawhawk
How did this not come to light before now?
No one remembered the blackface and KKK garb?
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*whispers* “Selective amnesia”.
re: #73 TedStriker
They couldn’t ask for a better deflection from the steady drumbeat of bad news re: Trump.
So, serious question, which I know gets asked every time: How far back in someones life are we going to hold them accountable for?
Also, though, just laugh at the GOP. They’re still actively doing things that Democrats gave up a long time ago.
Remember who the GOP supports.
‘We serve everybody.’ At this Mexican restaurant, bigots should just eat their words https://t.co/atKmJpqRbo
— Mexican Judge (@laloalcaraz) February 1, 2019
“…Remember, some of the first words out of Trump’s mouth as a candidate for President was that Mexicans were rapists. Then he maligned a Mexican American judge. And Trump’s acolytes were given free air time to slime this American-born jurist as a “La Raza” agitator.”
“…Bigots can get away with donning stereotypical Mexican garb. They can paste cartoonish mustaches on their faces. Or they can don the likeness of the President of the United States with smug certainty, aware that everyone knows the imagery is not meant as a gesture of goodwill.
This type of bigotry has a cumulative impact. Stereotypes and negative images become common talking points in our culture in absence of facts. It’s why Latinos reacted so strongly to Tom Brokaw’s racist assertions that Latinos don’t assimilate in America when every significant metric proves that they do.”
she is smart
who’d you want to be speaker?
Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) “could move to block President Trump from invoking a national emergency to build a border wall, forcing Senate Republicans to choose between preserving congressional power and crossing the White House,” the Washington Examiner reports.
(h/t politicawire.com)
re: #75 lawhawk
They couldn’t ask for a better deflection from the steady drumbeat of bad news re: Trump.
Depends. How many kids has Northam locked in cages?
This thing about Warren, Native American ancestry, DNA, is convoluted in our social and political dialogue.
Yet as a topic it does allow the bigotry of the MAGAdolts to come through loud and clear again.
re: #76 Belafon
So, serious question, which I know gets asked every time: How far back in someones life are we going to hold them accountable for?
Depends on if they are a Republican or Democrat.
Well, lucky for Northam he can’t run for Governor in consecutive terms
re: #81 Eclectic Cyborg
Depends on if they are a Republican or Democrat.
The we meant more than Republicans. It also meant people here.
re: #76 Belafon
As far as I am concerned, any action taken while an adult is fair game.
Given that, I am open to the “I have evolved” approach, as long as subsequent actions do indeed demonstrate a change.
re: #82 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Well, lucky for Northam he can’t run for Governor in consecutive terms
Has it been confirmed legit?
Northam can step down and let the Lt. Governor take over.
History repeats itself. I will be stepping off the dais today in protest of the Virginia Senate honoring Robert E. Lee. I’ll be thinking of this June 5, 1798 manumission document that freed my great-great-great grandfather Simon Fairfax from slavery in Virginia. #WeRiseTogether pic.twitter.com/tG0QB9hHdR
— Justin Fairfax (@FairfaxJustin) January 18, 2019
re: #68 freetoken
I thought that her DNA results indicated that she had Native American heritage. It’s really not an issue and we should let her move on. Since I’ve moved to this country, I’ve met Whites and Blacks who tell me that they have Native American ancestry. Seems like it’s just something that quite a few people believe.
re: #26 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
it’s on the correct side as prescribed by the Boy Scout uniform guidelines
But the field of stars is always supposed to lead when displayed like that. So he’s got a left shoulder patch on his right side. Just little pet peeve
re: #85 Weaselone
Has it been confirmed legit?
I don’t know
They had better be tracking down at least one more copy of that yearbook
re: #83 Belafon
The we meant more than Republicans. It also meant people here.
I know, I was making a joke. This was a question that got litigated previously with Brett Kavanagh.
It’s a tough one because ostensibly it depends on the answer to another question: “At what age does a person reach a point where they should really know better when it comes to doing potentially stupid things?”
Of course, the answer varies because people are different. I would think for most of us the age in question would be mid to late 20s, but again, it can be tough to say.
I know I did some stupid shit in my early 20s that I’ve always more or less deemed “youthful indiscretion”. A newly minted adult has to be allowed to make his or her mistakes after all.
But as we’ve seen, depending on WHO is involved, the narrative changes and you can do all kinds of pretzel twisting to make things people did in their 30s and 40s (when they really should have known better) out to be “minor indiscretions” or some other such nonsense.
re: #87 Patricia Kayden
I thought that her DNA results indicated that she had Native American heritage.
It did.
The problem is that she stated that she believed (based on her family lore) that her ancestor was Cherokee.
This got all the issues about being a formal tribe member stirred up.
Then the malicious hate-right pushed this problem to abuse Warren, with Trump leading the pack.
re: #88 KGxvi
But the field of stars is always supposed to lead when displayed like that. So he’s got a left shoulder patch on his right side. Just little pet peeve
No, the “field leading, as if advancing” is a military thing. I salute the BSA for not following suit. The truly proper way to display the colors are with the field positioned to the upper left. As prescribed in the Flag Code
While DNA testing can indeed show that you share a recent (past several centuries) ancestor with Native Americans, unless one has a cousin match to a known Native American with documented tribal ancestry, one can’t tell via DNA if one’s Native American ancestor belonged to any particularly tribe.
There are not enough Native Americans who have tested and are in databases as the baseline, and those who have tested tend to be from Mexico or South America.
Paleogenomics allows for the testing of a few ancient samples.
In the US, tribal heritage is based on documentation. Since Warren cannot document her connection, outside of family lore, to the Cherokee nation, she should have stated right up front that she was not going to claim any particular tribal affiliation and that others likewise should not use DNA tests to claim any particular tribal affiliation.
But here again we see that our society is unable to discuss a highly technical subject (DNA and population group affiliation) because frankly most Americans either don’t care or simply are not educated enough.
Hey, does anyone know if the Dotard tweeted about the DOW closing above 25,000 today, again?
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Suddenly the GOP in VA cares about the Klan and blackface. It’s so disingenuous I can’t even believe it. Your candidate was COREY STEWART. Northam’s gonna have to answer, but not to you racist pricks.
— MirriamRichardMarx4everSeddiq (@mirriam71) February 1, 2019
re: #49 goddamnedfrank
Today on “Mall Ninja AF” we have a $1000 brass skull molle clip. It may be called Airsoft but you can still be the hardest penis doing it.
All that’s missing is the crossed thigh bones from a certain style popular in Germany 70+ years ago to get what they’re really wanting.
Just checking in. Damn: regarding Northam. He was unlikely to run nationally ever but damn nonetheless.
re: #95 The Vicious Babushka
Seems like only yesterday these folks were defending the Covington schoolboys’ blackface as “school spirit.”
re: #95 The Vicious Babushka
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Gillespie also ran a racist campaign. We’ve also had George Allen. Northam deserves the criticism but the VA GOP can eat a bag of dicks.
Haven’t seen or heard a single person on either side of the aisle defend Northam. He should resign. https://t.co/qfWsRQkcak
— Nunca Trump (@NeverTrumpTexan) February 1, 2019
Trump literally parrots North Korean propganda, claiming that there’s a border wall that separates Korea.
Seoul “is literally right off their wall, by the way. But that wall works, I can tell you!”
This is something NK made up years ago. There is no wall dividing the countries pic.twitter.com/JKJcYfJYaM— Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) January 31, 2019
such a moron
Classy E. Erickson with the “dilates” abortion joke.
Per the VA constitution, if Northam were to resign, Lieutenant Governor Justin Fairfax would succeed him for the full term. Fairfax is only the 2nd African-American in history to be elected to statewide office.
— Michael Del Moro (@MikeDelMoro) February 1, 2019
re: #85 Weaselone
Local paper went to the medical school library and pulled the yearbook - so unless that’s a plant, yeah, it’s legit.
re: #100 jaunte
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One Northam ally, Senate Minority Leader Richard L. Saslaw (D-Fairfax) is defending the governor after the emergence of the blackface picture: “His whole life has been about exactly the opposite and that’s what you need to examine, not something that occurred 30 years ago.”
— James Hohmann (@jameshohmann) February 1, 2019
re: #100 jaunte
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Sure. I’d welcome Governor Fairfax and have Virginia be the first state with two African American governors. And Erick fuck off, You repeatedly defended Kavanagh. If Northam were anti abortion, you’d defend him and you know it, you Wanker.
Two things can be true:
1. Ralph Northam should resign
2. The party of Corey Stewart doesn’t get to suddenly pretend they are outraged by bigotry.— Nunca Trump (@NeverTrumpTexan) February 1, 2019
re: #98 jaunte
It seems like a lifetime ago that right wingers were defending the Covington school bros despite their blackface and racist and misogynistic taunts. Guess it’s okay to defend racism and bigotry as long as you’re a right winger (#IOKIYAR)
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) February 1, 2019
Maybe Northam has some calendars from back then that will exonerate him?
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I’m very disappointed to hear this. Northam wasn’t my choice. I preferred Periello but I thought Northam was better than this and in fairness he did condemn the shit in Charlottesville but this was 1984. But I want to know why VMI thought this was acceptable too. Criticize Northam, he deserves it but there’s something wrong with VMI if this was socially acceptable into the mid 80’s.
There is chutzpah and then there is a state party that LAST YEAR nominated a neo-Confederate for the US Senate complaining about racism https://t.co/5wi7etjKl6 pic.twitter.com/MT8lwLTrPl
— Michael Cohen (@speechboy71) February 1, 2019
Northam was under attack for a statement he made in regards to abortion.
That was why this photo with the blackface was dug up and made public today.
re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth
This is something NK made up years ago. There is no wall dividing the countries
two things:
1. they don’t have a wall, they have demilitarized zone where you get shot if you enter it; and,
2. if there was a wall there, it’d more likely be used for keeping North Koreans in rather than keeping them out.
Oh, and bonus third thing:
Both sides want reunification, they just disagree on the terms of reunification.
re: #113 freetoken
Northam was under attack for a statement he made in regards to abortion.
That was why this photo with the blackface was dug up and made public today.
I have no doubt at all that is the case. I’m okay with him resigning just like I was with Eric Schneiderman. Justin Fairfax will be a good governor.
About that … McMullin was and still is correct.
— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) February 1, 2019
re: #108 lawhawk
the difference is that liberals/progressives/Democrats/not-Republicans have learned to be embarrassed (to varying degrees) by racism. So for Republicans, it’s not so much attacking the racism, it’s really attacking the idea that you should be embarrassed by your past racism (whether said racism was intentional or not)
I will say this. Northam has shown he’s not the same guy from 35 years ago through his actions and Corey Stewart was running a Confederate love song his entire time in public life here. Does it make these pictures right or acceptable? Hell fucking no but does it mean the Virginia Democratic Party can go tell the Virginia Republican Party to go fuck itself with a rusty pike, hell yes.
“Fairfax (D), who normally presides over Richmond’s upper chamber, stepped off the dais and let a Republican wield the gavel while Sen. Richard H. Stuart (R-King George) marked Lee’s 212th birthday with praise for “a great Virginian and a great American.”” https://t.co/kbJQWDRDFE
— Bree Newsome Bass (@BreeNewsome) February 1, 2019
Erickson is quickly spewing fallacies:
Bullshit. Northam’s yearbook image is racist.
And so are the MAGAdolts who support their racist in chief.— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) February 1, 2019
re: #117 KGxvi
the difference is that liberals/progressives/Democrats/not-Republicans have learned to be embarrassed (to varying degrees) by racism. So for Republicans, it’s not so much attacking the racism, it’s really attacking the idea that you should be embarrassed by your past racism (whether said racism was intentional or not)
If this was a Republican, we’d be hearing about how everyone is being way too sensitive. Basically worse things than what Dick Saslaw is saying.
re: #119 jaunte
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Yep, I’d be fine with him being governor and seeing the same assholes who are crocodile tearing over this whine about Fairfax actually leading on efforts to stop our state celebrating Lee. Make our day, Virginia Republicans.
re: #120 freetoken
I give you a few more tweets before he blocks you for exposing his dumbfuckery.
re: #120 freetoken
Erickson is quickly spewing fallacies:
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Erickson’s a fucking lying sack of shit and a sexual assault apologist. He has no morals. He’s just a right wing piece of shit.
How quickly you can post fallacies and unsupported claims does not make them true.
— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) February 1, 2019
re: #125 freetoken
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It’s all about partisan politics to that imbred shitbrain. As I said, go ahead and force Northam to resign. As I said, I’d be prouder of my state than I’ve ever been if we made our state teh first state to have two African-American governors. Much more proud than I’ve ever been that Lee was birthed here.
Congratulations and welcome to the race to one of my closest friends, @corybooker! I’ll be cheering you on—just, you know, not TOO hard. pic.twitter.com/zeWskppQpv
— Kirsten Gillibrand (@SenGillibrand) February 1, 2019
This is why I think Democrats are going to come out with a great team for 2020. They know they’re on the same team. They might differ on some of the details and the proposals may differ, but their overall goals are the same.
Virginia GOP suddenly eager to start pulling down Confederate statues oh wait.
1984 wasn’t exactly the dark ages. Plus, in a med school yearbook? WTF
If Fairfax assumes the office, would he be able to seek re-election? Or does the no immediate re-election rule apply to him upon assuming the office?
re: #127 lawhawk
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This is why I think Democrats are going to come out with a great team for 2020. They know they’re on the same team. They might differ on some of the details and the proposals may differ, but their overall goals are the same.
Paging Keegan Michael Key. He needs to play him. And yeah I love the spirit.
This whole shtick is the type of ratfucking Roger Stone would do.
re: #130 KGxvi
If Fairfax assumes the office, would he be able to seek re-election? Or does the no immediate re-election rule apply to him upon assuming the office?
I’m not totally sure about that. We haven’t had a governor resign in years. But if he did have to step down for 2021, we also have a Dem AG that could run too. Plenty of good Va Dems in the stable which is why I’m not too worried about this in the long run. It sucks for Northam’s career but it’s not going to hinder the VA Dems IMO.
re: #129 Amory Blaine
1984 wasn’t exactly the dark ages. Plus, in a med school yearbook? WTF
Yeah my parents were married in ‘83. And as I said, it says a lot about VMI’s culture too. VMI is still one of the nation’s pre-eminent military academies. Also the alma mater and where Stonewall Jackson taught before the Civil War.
re: #132 Joe Bacon 🌹
It would be a strange self-own to get rid of Northam and get Fairfax instead, so it’s most likely real.
What kind of medical school even has a yearbook? There are so many layers to this fuckery onion.
— Franklygoddamn (@goddamnedfrank) February 1, 2019
Not only am I not defending Northam’s blackface antics, that you read into my comment to Erickson that I am supporting said blackface calls into question your reading comprehension.
— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) February 1, 2019
re: #136 jaunte
It would be a strange self-own to get rid of Northam and get Fairfax instead, so it’s most likely real.
Fairfax is more progressive too. Probably the most progressive person we’ve elected statewide.
re: #133 jaunte
The editor of that yearbook must still be around.
Right. I want confirmation. As we all know, RWNJ are not known to lie and cheat!
re: #138 freetoken
Forget it, Jake. It’s Twittertown.
re: #140 Amory Blaine
Right. I want confirmation. As we all know, RWNJ are not known to lie and cheat!
It’s interesting that this didn’t come out before. Not denying its authenticity but it’s interesting.
re: #136 jaunte
It would be a strange self-own to get rid of Northam and get Fairfax instead, so it’s most likely real.
But it gets the attention off of Stone.
re: #144 Joe Bacon 🌹
But it gets the attention off of Stone.
Schneidermann’s downfall was supposed to hurt the N.Y. investigations too.
re: #97 HappyWarrior
Just checking in. Damn: regarding Northam. He was unlikely to run nationally ever but damn nonetheless.
I was wondering what you would have to say about it. You worked on his campaign a bit didn’t you? I guess nothing like this was ever mentioned before.
Should we do a 48 hours wait on this? You never know.
re: #147 ObserverArt
I was wondering what you would have to say about it. You worked on his campaign a bit didn’t you? I guess nothing like this was ever mentioned before.
Should we do a 48 hours wait on this? You never know.
Yeah I did a little. I mostly worked on his primary opponent’s campaign but I liked Northam to campaign for him in the GE.
Make no mistake though, this is because he’s unapologetically pro choice. It wouldn’t have happened otherwise. He pissed the wrong people off. It doesn’t make this right of course but I definitely want to know about the college experience of high ranking VA GOPers.
Bold New GOP Initiative: Bigotry Is Disqualifying.
I look forward to their campaign against Donald Trump, Mike Pence, Steve King, let’s see, who else?
re: #143 HappyWarrior
It’s interesting that this didn’t come out before. Not denying its authenticity but it’s interesting.
So did Tom Perriello and Ed Gillespie not hire an oppo research team, or did they just hire the two worst oppo research teams?
— Joe Sonka 😐 (@joesonka) February 1, 2019
re: #150 jaunte
Bold New GOP Initiative: Bigotry Is Disqualifying.
I look forward to their campaign against Donald Trump, Mike Pence, Steve King, let’s see, who else?
All of them Katie.
re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth
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I would think that Gillespie a former RNC chair would have found this. Perriello didn’t have as much funds.
re: #150 jaunte
Bold New GOP Initiative: Bigotry Is Disqualifying.
I look forward to their campaign against Donald Trump, Mike Pence, Steve King, let’s see, who else?
Making bigotry a disqualifier would take out a few percent of (D) elected officials and well over 50% of Republican elected officials.
re: #155 EPR-radar
Making bigotry a disqualifier would take out a few percent of (D) elected officials and well over 50% of Republican elected officials.
Acceptable.
re: #155 EPR-radar
Making bigotry a disqualifier would take out a few percent of (D) elected officials and well over 50% of Republican elected officials.
Good!
Has Steve King chimed in yet?
I’m sure he’d be his expressing his disgust…at Democrats!
I’m sure Corey Stewart will have something to say that will remind us all why the VA GOP is rotten.
GILLESPIE: wtf happened, man?
DISGRACED RESEARCH DIRECTOR: We were trying to position you as the racist choice, we couldn’t have used that!— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) February 1, 2019
re: #150 jaunte
Bold New GOP Initiative: Bigotry Is Disqualifying.
I look forward to their campaign against Donald Trump, Mike Pence, Steve King, let’s see, who else?
this
over and over and over and…..
re: #160 teleskiguy
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Well he was coming off just barely beating Stewart. So may well be not far off.
re: #143 HappyWarrior
It’s interesting that this didn’t come out before. Not denying its authenticity but it’s interesting.
i have two questions (so far)
- is northam the guy in blackface or kkk in that photo?
- did he put the picture on his page (or have a say) or did an editor do it?
Seeing the bots once again flooding Twitter with the Democrats = KKK crap
re: #163 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
i have two questions (so far)
- is northam the guy in blackface or kkk in that photo?
- did he put the picture on his page (or have a say) or did an editor do it?
Good questions. Can’t say for sure.
re: #164 Joe Bacon 🌹
Seeing the bots once again flooding Twitter with the Democrats = KKK crap
All the while the last VA GOP candidate repeatedly defended the CSA.
The hypocrisy of the GOP is one of the most infuriating things about them.
re: #167 Eclectic Cyborg
The hypocrisy of the GOP is one of the most infuriating things about them.
Totally.
He should quit now, like Al Franken did. There’s no recovering from this and dragging it out only hurts Democrats and fuels GOP hypocrisy.
STATEMENT FROM NORTHAM APOLOGIZING FOR YEARBOOK pic.twitter.com/NB646Gkh4m
— Mike Valerio (@MikevWUSA) February 1, 2019
re: #160 teleskiguy
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Pretty much. The VA GOP’s had no problem with shit through the last 30 years, so publishing that photo wouldn’t have disqualified Northam so much as put their own racism in stark contrast. Guys who still have Dixie Swastikas on their office walls going “Blackface is unacceptable” would have set off bullshit detectors in Guam.
re: #169 goddamnedfrank
He should quit now, like Al Franken did. There’s no recovering from this and dragging it out only hurts Democrats and
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The federal judge overseeing the Roger Stone case said she is considering a gag order.
“This is a criminal proceeding and not a public relations campaign,” Judge Amy Berman Jackson said at a hearing in Washington. https://t.co/FNoiSQmtXW pic.twitter.com/KxQsXiNCdB— CNN (@CNN) February 1, 2019
re: #167 Eclectic Cyborg
The hypocrisy of the GOP is one of the most infuriating things about them.
Except generally they think this stuff is ok so they resent being called out and therefore demand that what’s good for one is necessary for the other. They aren’t hypocrite on this one thing because they don’t believe this shit is wrong for anyone. Which is far worse than being hypocritical. Their crime here is racism and bigotry. Disgusting.
re: #169 goddamnedfrank
He should quit now, like Al Franken did. There’s no recovering from this and dragging it out only hurts Democrats and fuels GOP hypocrisy.
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He should.
re: #169 goddamnedfrank
He should quit now, like Al Franken did. There’s no recovering from this and dragging it out only hurts Democrats and fuels GOP hypocrisy.
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No, just no. I’m not up for another sacrifice on the altar of “But The Party…”
CBS does another Trump asskissing letting him say that Pelosi is allowing people to be killed because he ain’t got his wall…
First tracks on High Rustler. A rite of passage since 1938.
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📷: @alta_historical_society / Alan Engen Ski History Museum
#AltaMagic #tbt
He should have said he was a Republican at the time..
/s
I know I’ve run into this poem before but it remains a hoot.
Pronounce correctly every word - speak better native english speakes
Dearest creature in creation,
Study English pronunciation.
I will teach you in my verse
Sounds like corpse, corps, horse, and worse.
I will keep you, Suzy, busy,
Make your head with heat grow dizzy.
Tear in eye, your dress will tear.
So shall I! Oh hear my prayer.
Just compare heart, beard, and heard,
Dies and diet, lord and word,
Sword and sward, retain and Britain.
(Mind the latter, how it’s written.)
Now I surely will not plague you
With such words as plaque and ague.
But be careful how you speak:
Say break and steak, but bleak and streak;
Cloven, oven, how and low,
Script, receipt, show, poem, and toe.
Hear me say, devoid of trickery,
Daughter, laughter, and Terpsichore,
Typhoid, measles, topsails, aisles,
Exiles, similes, and reviles;
Scholar, vicar, and cigar,
Solar, mica, war and far;
One, anemone, Balmoral,
Kitchen, lichen, laundry, laurel;
Gertrude, German, wind and mind,
Scene, Melpomene, mankind.
Billet does not rhyme with ballet,
Bouquet, wallet, mallet, chalet.
Blood and flood are not like food,
Nor is mould like should and would.
Viscous, viscount, load and broad,
Toward, to forward, to reward.
And your pronunciation’s OK
When you correctly say croquet,
Rounded, wounded, grieve and sieve,
Friend and fiend, alive and live.
Ivy, privy, famous; clamour
And enamour rhyme with hammer.
River, rival, tomb, bomb, comb,
Doll and roll and some and home.
Stranger does not rhyme with anger,
Neither does devour with clangour.
Souls but foul, haunt but aunt,
Font, front, wont, want, grand, and grant,
Shoes, goes, does. Now first say finger,
And then singer, ginger, linger,
Real, zeal, mauve, gauze, gouge and gauge,
Marriage, foliage, mirage, and age.
Query does not rhyme with very,
Nor does fury sound like bury.
Dost, lost, post and doth, cloth, loth.
Job, nob, bosom, transom, oath.
Though the differences seem little,
We say actual but victual.
Refer does not rhyme with deafer.
Fe0ffer does, and zephyr, heifer.
Mint, pint, senate and sedate;
Dull, bull, and George ate late.
Scenic, Arabic, Pacific,
Science, conscience, scientific.
Liberty, library, heave and heaven,
Rachel, ache, moustache, eleven.
We say hallowed, but allowed,
People, leopard, towed, but vowed.
Mark the differences, moreover,
Between mover, cover, clover;
Leeches, breeches, wise, precise,
Chalice, but police and lice;
Camel, constable, unstable,
Principle, disciple, label.
Petal, panel, and canal,
Wait, surprise, plait, promise, pal.
Worm and storm, chaise, chaos, chair,
Senator, spectator, mayor.
Tour, but our and succour, four.
Gas, alas, and Arkansas.
Sea, idea, Korea, area,
Psalm, Maria, but malaria.
Youth, south, southern, cleanse and clean.
Doctrine, turpentine, marine.
Compare alien with Italian,
Dandelion and battalion.
Sally with ally, yea, ye,
Eye, I, ay, aye, whey, and key.
Say aver, but ever, fever,
Neither, leisure, skein, deceiver.
Heron, granary, canary.
Crevice and device and aerie.
Face, but preface, not efface.
Phlegm, phlegmatic, ass, glass, bass.
Large, but target, gin, give, verging,
Ought, out, joust and scour, scourging.
Ear, but earn and wear and tear
Do not rhyme with here but ere.
Seven is right, but so is even,
Hyphen, roughen, nephew Stephen,
Monkey, donkey, Turk and jerk,
Ask, grasp, wasp, and cork and work.
Pronunciation (think of Psyche!)
Is a paling stout and spikey?
Won’t it make you lose your wits,
Writing groats and saying grits?
It’s a dark abyss or tunnel:
Strewn with stones, stowed, solace, gunwale,
Islington and Isle of Wight,
Housewife, verdict and indict.
Finally, which rhymes with enough,
Though, through, plough, or dough, or cough?
Hiccough has the sound of cup.
My advice is to give up!!!English Pronunciation by G. Nolst Trenité
“The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don’t just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.”
James D. Nicoll:
RE: Gov. Northam
If he’s in blackface, he needs to resign.
Blackface is not simply offensive. Historically, it was a tool of oppression. Antebellum minstrel shows (more popular in the north than south) typically included a plantation vignette where slaves were depicted as happy and well cared for by their owners. This was all part of a new justification of slavery (a backlash to radical abolitionists like David Walker who argued that slavery should end by violence if necessary and William Lloyd Garrison who called slavery a national sin). This new justification of slavery argued that slavery was a positive good for black slaves (they would be savages in Africa if not for slavery) as opposed to a necessary evil (which is how people like Jefferson talked about slavery). Benevolent slave owners cared for their slaves like family. Many slave owners’ journals and diaries include the phrase, “my family, white and black.” After the Civil War, blackface was used to perpetuate the stereotypes that African Americans were unintelligent and lazy and therefore unable to exercise their rights as citizens (particularly their right to vote). So, blackface is not some quaint tradition that is now objectionable by today’s standards. It represents all the justifications Americans used to enslave people based on the color of their skin.
re: #175 Targetpractice
No, just no. I’m not up for another sacrifice on the altar of “But The Party…”
Two distinctly different sets of of responsibility the parties are held to. It’s disgusting. And we always lose. Always.
re: #63 jaunte
The Virginia conservatives who are shocked at white people appearing in blackface have two black presidential candidates to vote for, if they’re truly penitent.
They aren’t though. If he was a Republican, they would be reflexively defending him, and he wouldn’t resign.
re: #181 MsJ
Two distinctly different sets of of responsibility the parties are held to. It’s disgusting. And we always lose. Always.
Being the adults in the room is a clear-cut political disadvantage for Democrats in the US, probably a 5-10 point nationwide hit.
re: #182 NO SMOCKING GUN!
They aren’t though. If he was a Republican, they would be reflexively defending him, and he wouldn’t resign.
And they’re not saying anything other than “He should resign.” They’re not suddenly okay with tearing down statutes of Confederate “heroes,” they’re not pulling down their Dixie Swastikas, and nobody who has faced similar revelations in the past is moving to leave office as an example. They’re all just saying “He should resign!” and expecting the VA DNC to do the heavy-lifting of hounding him out of office.
re: #120 freetoken
Dems: We condemn Northam’s picture and think he should resign.
Erick: Democrats won’t condemn him.
Dems: We condemn Northam’s picture and think he should resign.
Erick: Democrats won’t condemn him.— (((IntheNumbers))) (@ItsNumbersMan) February 1, 2019
And you still defend Steve King.
— The 3-D Zanti Regent (@josephebacon) February 1, 2019
re: #76 Belafon
So, serious question, which I know gets asked every time: How far back in someones life are we going to hold them accountable for?
Also, though, just laugh at the GOP. They’re still actively doing things that Democrats gave up a long time ago.
Northam knew this was in his past, and he was an adult when he did it. He should have owned up to it before running for Governor and made serious mea culpas. Now he’s just screwed.
re: #188 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Northam knew this was in his past, and he was an adult when he did it. He should have owned up to it before running for Governor and made serious mea culpas. Now he’s just screwed.
He was in his mid 20’s. I want to know wtf at VMI made this acceptable.
I hate that we’re going to have a Democrat resign and a Republican stay as a Supreme Court justice and a flat out White Supremacist stay as representative of Iowa, but that’s how it works right now. They all three should go.
re: #183 EPR-radar
Being the adults in the room is a clear-cut political disadvantage for Democrats in the US, probably a 5-10 point nationwide hit.
Doing the right thing is always the hard thing. Doing the right thing is always the costly thing. The hope is that the majority will see who does the right thing every time and who never does the right thing and over time support the right thing. The only alternative is to decide these things don’t really matter, and lose our soul as a nation.
re: #87 Patricia Kayden
I thought that her DNA results indicated that she had Native American heritage. It’s really not an issue and we should let her move on. Since I’ve moved to this country, I’ve met Whites and Blacks who tell me that they have Native American ancestry. Seems like it’s just something that quite a few people believe.
According to that PBS documentary (pbs.org) about Indian influence in rock music… in slave states runaway slaves sometimes hid in tribes and passed for native, while in non-slave states indians would sometimes pass for black. So a few generations on, people might honestly believe they had an ancestor who was one when it was really the other. (then there’s people like Jimi Hendrix or Charlie Patton, who had both).
And once again, Democrats will do the right thing, and Republicans will still support Representative Steve King.
— (((IntheNumbers))) (@ItsNumbersMan) February 1, 2019
re: #188 NO SMOCKING GUN!
I was in high school in 1984. I cannot imagine any circumstance in which I’d have posed in blackface or a KKK hood. Nor can I imagine my (northern, suburban, heavily Jewish) school administration would have allowed that to be printed in the yearbook.
Nor can I imagine being a candidate for public office in the 21st century if that HAD been in my background.
I think Northam should go.
BUT… I also think Brett Kavanaugh’s high school years should have been equally disqualifying.
And I don’t think any of this has (or should have) any bearing on the abortion bill for which the “gotcha” release of the yearbook page was apparently meant as retribution.
And I think an adult ought to be able to hold all these views at once, even in our us-or-them headline society.
Nothing shouts “broken woken” like Virginia Republicans trying to shame Ralph Northam.
— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) February 1, 2019
re: #190 HappyWarrior
He was in his mid 20’s. I want to know wtf at VMI made this acceptable.
It has never been acceptable, but it was 1984.
We have Catholic boys at a basketball game from a few years ago.
We’ve seen other blackface example between 1984 and now.
I bet you can go to a party at a university somewhere in America tonight and see it. We know it many times comes around during Halloween.
Remember Megyn Kelly?
(No excuses…just pointing out sadly it hasn’t gone away)
re: #190 HappyWarrior
He was in his mid 20’s. I want to know wtf at VMI made this acceptable.
VMI is what made it acceptable. VMI should have been razed after the war and then given the Arlington treatment.
re: #199 ObserverArt
It has never been acceptable, but it was 1984.
We have Catholic boys at a basketball game from a few years ago.
We’ve seen other blackface example between 1984 and now.
I bet you can go to a party at a university somewhere in America tonight and see it. We know it many times comes around during Halloween.
Remember Megyn Kelly?
(No excuses…just pointing out sadly it hasn’t gone away)
True and VMI is Stonewall Jackson’s school too.
re: #201 William Lewis
VMI is what made it acceptable. VMI should have been razed after the war and then given the Arlington treatment.
Hard to argue with that.
So I laid down to take a nap, woke up and discovered that Gov. Ralph Northam had appeared in a medical school yearbook picture where there’s one man in blackface and another in a KKK robe. The first thing that went through my head was, “Oh, it was 35 years ago, why is this being dragged out?” Then I remembered what WE did in Austin at least 35 years ago.
I remember a time in the early 1980s when the KKK came to Austin to have a rally at the state capitol. Now, the cops would have rather us stay away, but naaaah. So there were six pathetic Klansmen, hundreds of cops and thousands of UT Austin students and locals on hand to heckle away.
My point is that even in the early 1980s, even in Texas, even at one of the flagship universities* of Texas, we knew that the KKK was bad news. It’s insane to think that Ralph Northam was so incredibly privileged and isolated that he didn’t know this was a problem.
*grudgingly allowing Texas A&M its pride of place.
re: #200 55Fender1
Greetings hatchling. And you’re very green, even set up a brand new Twitter account.
re: #193 Old Liberal
Doing the right thing is always the hard thing. Doing the right thing is always the costly thing. The hope is that the majority will see who does the right thing every time and who never does the right thing and over time support the right thing. The only alternative is to decide these things don’t really matter, and lose our soul as a nation.
I agree that the Democrats need to have standards. I just wish the media and electorate would view this as a net positive rather than treating it like a political body odor curse.
re: #190 HappyWarrior
He was in his mid 20’s. I want to know wtf at VMI made this acceptable.
re: #201 William Lewis
VMI is what made it acceptable. VMI should have been razed after the war and then given the Arlington treatment.
re: #202 HappyWarrior
True and VMI is Stonewall Jackson’s school too.
You all know this wasn’t at VMI, right?
re: #200 55Fender1
Factose intolerant :)
Howdy new member.
Like the nickname. Are you a guit picker?
Evening Lizards! Happy weekend.
NORTHAM: I am proud of including in my yearbook a picture of the two racists I killed with my bare hands.
— Sweet Meteor O’Death (@smod4real) February 1, 2019
re: #204 mmmirele
Around that time, the Klan tried to have a March in Abilene, but it got canceled when people found out about it.
At the same time, Virginia has made far more progress since then. Do you think this would cause problems for Abbott?
re: #206 EPR-radar
I agree that the Democrats need to have standards. I just wish the media and electorate would view this as a net positive rather than treating it like a political body odor curse.
Yep. We’redealing with a ton of morons, opportunists and grifters. Sucks bigly
re: #207 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
You all know this wasn’t at VMI, right?
Oops sorry. East Virginia Medical School. My bad.
I find myself in that position I so often see others in, trying to explain to folks who don’t live in my state about the way my state was in the “recent” past. But I think folks need to understand that “blue” or at least “purple” VA is really still an illusion, the shift in VA politics only really taking place in the last 2 decades and only in the half of the state immediately adjacent to D.C. You travel to the southern half of the state and you’re still going to find folks who think Dr King was a “troublemaker” and think the Civil Rights Era a travesty because the South was a land of brotherly love before it.
In 1984, this shit was not only acceptable, but anybody who took offense to it would have (at best) been told to “lighten up.” In 1984, if you suggested tearing down a Confederate statute, you’d have (at best) been written off as some Birkenstock-wearing, granola-chewing Berkeley wannabe who didn’t understand “our heritage.” The past truly was a whole different country, people did things differently back then.
re: #210 Belafon
Around that time, the Klan tried to have a March in Abilene, but it got canceled when people found out about it.
At the same time, Virginia has made far more progress since then. Do you think this would cause problems for Abbott?
In the time since, we did elect an African American governor and Northam’s own Lt Governor is black as well.
re: #207 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
You all know this wasn’t at VMI, right?
Apparently not? I noted his comment on VMI and I let go with my long standing opinion on that place.
re: #213 Targetpractice
I find myself in that position I so often see others in, trying to explain to folks who don’t live in my state about the way my state was in the “recent” past. But I think folks need to understand that “blue” or at least “purple” VA is really still an illusion, the shift in VA politics only really taking place in the last 2 decades and only in the half of the state immediately adjacent to D.C. You travel to the southern half of the state and you’re still going to find folks who think Dr King was a “troublemaker” and think the Civil Rights Era a travesty because the South was a land of brotherly love before it.
In 1984, this shit was not only acceptable, but anybody who took offense to it would have (at best) been told to “lighten up.” In 1984, if you suggested tearing down a Confederate statute, you’d have (at best) been written off as some Birkenstock-wearing, granola-chewing Berkeley wannabe who didn’t understand “our heritage.” The past truly was a whole different country, people did things differently back then.
That’s very true. My NoVa bias is showing in why I’m shocked but considering we had started the Lee-Jackson stuff by then and a decade after 1984 elected Allen governor.
re: #216 William Lewis
Apparently not? I noted his comment on VMI and I let go with my long standing opinion on that place.
It’s my fault. I assumed he got his medical degree there.
Sadly, I learned a long time ago that honesty is rarely the best policy but it is certainly always the most expensive policy. I was honest anyway and paid a huge price throughout my life. That’s just how it is here on planet earth.
I guess I’ll weigh in on Northam, the political crisis du jour. The moral and ethical thing to do is for him to step aside. I thought Al Franken did the right thing. You want to be morally and ethically better than your political opponents? You step aside when shit like this comes out, no matter how hard it may be. Besides, if Northam doesn’t step aside this shit will deflect, distract, and ultimately derail his agenda as governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia.
Looks like he’s confirmed it’s him. He needs to resign.
re: #220 teleskiguy
I guess I’ll weigh in on Northam, the political crisis du jour. The moral and ethical thing to do is for him to step aside. I thought Al Franken did the right thing. You want to be morally and ethically better than your political opponents? You step aside when shit like this comes out, no matter how hard it may be. Besides, if Northam doesn’t step aside this shit will deflect, distract, and ultimately derail his agenda as governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia.
Pains me to say it since I like and voted for the man but yes this.
Democrats need to stop trying to win over Trump’s base https://t.co/MPqqs2oMgT
— The Daily Show (@TheDailyShow) February 2, 2019
Resign, Hell! Switch parties to the GOP and all of this will disappear overnight.
re: #225 Skip Intro
Resign, Hell! Switch parties to the GOP and all of this will disappear overnight.
Hear hear!
re: #225 Skip Intro
Resign, Hell! Switch parties to the GOP and all of this will disappear overnight.
It’s funny you say that since he was supporting GOP candidates for President as recently as 2004. That wasn’t why I preferred Periello tho:
Perhaps it was a reference to flatulence or a drinking game? https://t.co/F5NJpYTHcE
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) February 2, 2019
re: #91 freetoken
It did.
The problem is that she stated that she believed (based on her family lore) that her ancestor was Cherokee.
This got all the issues about being a formal tribe member stirred up.
Then the malicious hate-right pushed this problem to abuse Warren, with Trump leading the pack.
The Cherokee mostly reiterated that a few genes to do not a tribe member make. Not sure anyone was very hostile about it. For that matter, any First Nations group is about as likely to have one single opinion as are the Irish.
re: #175 Targetpractice
No, just no. I’m not up for another sacrifice on the altar of “But The Party…”
If Franken had remained we might not have taken the House, voters chose Democrats in part because we have higher standards. There’s no reason to protect these assholes who knew they had horrible skeletons in their closet but ran anyway, and fairness is a luxury we can’t afford. There’s nothing inherently valuable about defending a handful of specific white men who should have known better, allowing them to remain as distractions & false equivalence magnets only helps Republicans.
re: #230 goddamnedfrank
If Franken had remained we might not have taken the House, voters chose Democrats in part because we have higher standards. There’s no reason to protect these assholes who knew they had horrible skeletons in their closet but ran anyway, and fairness is a luxury we can’t afford. There’s nothing inherently valuable about defending a handful of specific white men who should have known better, allowing them to remain as distractions & false equivalence magnets only helps Republicans.
Would we be so quick to take this attitude if forcing him out of office meant a Republican replaced him?
re: #231 Targetpractice
Would we be so quick to take this attitude if forcing him out of office meant a Republican replaced him?
As hard as it may be, the right thing to do is to take this attitude, yes. As goddamnedfrank noted, we have higher standards, and we should uphold those standards to the highest degree.
re: #232 teleskiguy
As hard as it may be, the right thing to do is to take this attitude, yes. As goddamnedfrank noted, we have higher standards, and we should uphold those standards to the highest degree.
And if something embarrassing from Fairfax’s own history should come to light?
re: #233 Targetpractice
And if something embarrassing from Fairfax’s own history should come to light?
It’s quaint to use the word “embarrassing” when referring to politics. That’s so 2015.
re: #233 Targetpractice
And if something embarrassing from Fairfax’s own history should come to light?
Will we catch him in blackface?
I’m not playing this bullshit “what if” game. The specifics here are bad enough that there’s no Febreezing this turd with hypotheticals.
re: #234 Decatur Deb
It’s quaint to use the word “embarrassing” when referring to politics. That’s so 2015.
I might use “disqualifying,” but we learned last year that being an accused rapist isn’t enough to keep you off the SCOTUS bench.
re: #233 Targetpractice
And if something embarrassing from Fairfax’s own history should come to light?
On down the line, even if it means a Republican is appointed governor, as painful as it sounds. That’s just this lowly ski bum’s opinion.
‘Course a lot of Southern administrations have a little Klan in the woodpile.
Take my Chief of Police…please.
re: #239 Decatur Deb
There’s a house near the high school here in town that has a Confederate flag flying on their front porch. In the mountains of Colorado.
*shudder*
re: #235 Belafon
Will we catch him in blackface?
I’m thinking it best I take a short break, because I’m in danger of going down a rabbit hole I really don’t want to descend into. I’d rather not offend others by pointing out how one-sided all this seems.
By all means, point out the double standard. It’s real as fuck and we should slam the media and Republicans with it every chance we get, but also point out that the difference in QC is why our product is better, because we root out our bad apples instead of tolerating them.
re: #210 Belafon
Around that time, the Klan tried to have a March in Abilene, but it got canceled when people found out about it.
At the same time, Virginia has made far more progress since then. Do you think this would cause problems for Abbott?
Dunno. I think Austin has backslidden, in fact. From two weeks ago:
AUSTIN (KXAN) — A gay couple in Austin say they were the target of a homophobic slur, then attacked in downtown Austin in the early hours of Saturday morning. Both were hospitalized for their injuries.
It’s now gotten to where the local community has started up a “gayborhood watch.” This is pretty upsetting to me; my co-op in the 1980s was a haven for gay college students and there wasn’t a need for a neighborhood watch in Austin. (There was in Houston in the Montrose, which made that neighborhood very safe.)
Again, I’ll say it, I think Austin has backslidden.
Just in case nobody’s posted this, for folks who forgot the Cold War. Click through and read the thread.
Okay, everyone, I’m going to explain why the INF Treaty even existed and why it’s an idiotic move to dump it and think we can replicate our success against the USSR in the 1980s all over again. Mute or turn off notifications if you don’t want this mini-lecture. /1
— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) February 2, 2019
re: #232 teleskiguy
As hard as it may be, the right thing to do is to take this attitude, yes. As goddamnedfrank noted, we have
higherstandards, and we should uphold those standards to the highest degree.
FTFY for accuracy…
re: #241 Targetpractice
I’m thinking it best I take a short break, because I’m in danger of going down a rabbit hole I really don’t want to descend into. I’d rather not offend others by pointing out how one-sided all this seems.
We all know it’s one sided. We know it’s unfair that he will have to resign while Steve King is still a representative and an active white supremacist and kavanaugh is on the bench even though he assaulted someone.
I also pay my taxes even though I know of Donald Trump.
re: #246 Belafon
We all know it’s one sided. We know it’s unfair that he will have to resign while Steve King is still a representative and an active white supremacist and kavanaugh is on the bench even though he assaulted someone.
I also pay my taxes even though I know of Donald Trump.
I wasn’t speaking politically, I was speaking racially. And that’s as far as I’m willing to go.
A fart in the wind.
Howard Schultz is currently polling at 4% favorability with voters.
That’s not a typo. https://t.co/Vj9rW4ItNq— Charlotte Clymer🏳️🌈 (@cmclymer) February 2, 2019
re: #246 Belafon
We all know it’s one sided. We know it’s unfair that he will have to resign while Steve King is still a representative and an active white supremacist and kavanaugh is on the bench even though he assaulted someone.
I also pay my taxes even though I know of Donald Trump.
Easy fix. If the yearbook is real and he declines to resign, he should be asked to change parties.
IOKIYAR.
re: #248 teleskiguy
A fart in the wind.
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re: #249 Decatur Deb
Easy fix. If the yearbook is real and he declines to resign, he should be asked to change parties.
IOKIYAR.
No. It’s better that he resign and be replaced by the Lt. Gov. than to switch parties and possibly take that party switch seriously as a born-again race realist or the like.
re: #250 Blind Frog Belly White
Steve Schmidt: “I gave up that sweet MSNBC gig for THIS?!?”
Schmidt gets paid either way, although perhaps not for very long.
re: #248 teleskiguy
A fart in the wind.
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Perhaps Trump has given billionaires a bad name.
re: #253 Decatur Deb
Perhaps Trump has given billionaires a bad name.
I nominate this for best billionaire-related tweet this quarter.
The thing I genuinely appreciate about Howard Schultz is that he’s really making the case for why we should grind billionaires into a fine powder. pic.twitter.com/lAILFZqYPH
— Franklygoddamn (@goddamnedfrank) January 30, 2019
re: #251 EPR-radar
No. It’s better that he resign and be replaced by the Lt. Gov. than to switch parties and possibly take that party switch seriously as a born-again race realist or the like.
That’s better, but resigning is his call. If he stays, let him put on GOP-face. (Virginians—can you recall a Gov?)
re: #253 Decatur Deb
Perhaps Trump has given billionaires a bad name.
To be fair, it’s not like Schultz has done much to rehabilitate that name.
re: #255 Decatur Deb
That’s better, but resigning is his call. If he stays, let him put on GOP-face. (Virginians—can you recall a Gov?)
No we cannot.
re: #256 Blind Frog Belly White
To be fair, it’s not like Schultz has done much to rehabilitate that name.
I mean making your campaign “Hey people I’m a rich guy complaining about people wanting better health care and affordable education” isn’t a winner usually. At least Trump and Perot had the sense to make their pet issue something that could have some mainstream appeal.
re: #248 teleskiguy
A fart in the wind.
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— M Porter (@MPorter21) February 2, 2019
re: #248 teleskiguy
A fart in the wind.
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re: #255 Decatur Deb
That’s better, but resigning is his call. If he stays, let him put on GOP-face. (Virginians—can you recall a Gov?)
It’s…complicated. Short answer is “No,” slightly longer answer is “Maybe, it’s never been tested.”
At first I thought the Northam pic was from high school, which would be one thing. A REALLY BAD thing, but still.
But MED SCHOOL? Mid-20s, in the mid-80s?
I think we’re better off without him.
Sorry, I’m just not prepared to call for someones resignation for wearing a blackface, or clan robes (don’t think we have confirmation on which at this time) costume in 1984 Virginia.
Doing one stupendously stupid thing 35 years ago shouldn’t necessarily ruin a person.
re: #264 Blind Frog Belly White
At first I thought the Northam pic was from high school, which would be one thing. A REALLY BAD thing, but still.
But MED SCHOOL? Mid-20s, in the mid-80s?
I think we’re better off without him.
Just as easy to kiss him off after the 24-hr rule. There could be some way to explain this, and it would have to be a masterpiece of ‘splainin. Certainly worth the wait.
re: #266 ipsos
Who are the 4% who DO approve of Schultz?
Whoever they are, they’re way below the 42% of “independents” he believes is his pathway to serving a serious challenge to the “duopoly.”
re: #266 ipsos
Who are the 4% who DO approve of Schultz?
NeverTrump Conservatives? Or maybe the kind of people who agree with every single policy proposal the Dems support but still JUST KNOW that we’re ‘too extreme’.
re: #271 Blind Frog Belly White
NeverTrump Conservatives? Or maybe the kind of people who agree with every single policy proposal the Dems support but still JUST KNOW that we’re ‘too extreme’.
If Trump can have “Deplorables”, Schultz can have “Inexplicables”.
re: #271 Blind Frog Belly White
NeverTrump Conservatives? Or maybe the kind of people who agree with every single policy proposal the Dems support but still JUST KNOW that we’re ‘too extreme’.
Of my (unrepresentative) sample of several thousand FB friends, the only one who’s said anything about Schultz that’s not 100% negative is one older white fella from Ohio who proclaims himself an “independent” but is pretty reliably pro-Republican and always pro-authoritarian, if vaguely anti-Trump at least.
Is this guy actually going to vote for Schultz? I highly doubt it.
re: #263 Kilroy was here
If you need a laugh…
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Damnit, I was just going to post that! :)
Trump’s going to butt in with a stupid nickname for Northam I just know it.
re: #275 HappyWarrior
Trump’s going to butt in with a stupid nickname for Northam I just know it.
Of course, he’s going to jump in on the dogpile before it becomes too late to claim he had some small part in claiming another GOP scalp.
re: #276 Targetpractice
Of course, he’s going to jump in on the dogpile before it becomes too late to claim he had some small part in claiming another GOP scalp.
Yep.
Northrop has validated and apologized for the yearbook photo, per WaPo.
re: #266 ipsos
Who are the 4% who DO approve of Schultz?
The rest of the Billionaires Against Fair Taxes Party?
A white dude is found out to have participated in a racist picture from the 80’s and another very serious white dude’s first thought is that this reflects poorly on a black woman who couldn’t have possibly known about it.
This is how institutional racism in media works, Chris.— Franklygoddamn (@goddamnedfrank) February 2, 2019
re: #279 William Lewis
The rest of the Billionaires Against Fair Taxes Party?
That 4% number shows how utterly dependent the GOP is on its identity politics of various bigoted resentments for votes. An agenda of nothing but tax cuts for the rich is dead on arrival, even in the GOP.
re: #278 Decatur Deb
Northrop has validated and apologized for the yearbook photo, per WaPo.
Gonna be a lot of conflicted Virginia Republicans mulling Northrop’s racist stunt while driving down Monument Ave. lamenting the Arthur Ashe monument.
re: #280 goddamnedfrank
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Chris maybe you forgot his opponent’s campaign. It was fucking racist as shit but go on shit on Kamala for this because clearly she knew about it beforehand. // This shit is fucking ridiculous.
re: #282 Barefoot Grin
Gonna be a lot of conflicted Virginia Republicans mulling Northrop’s racist stunt while driving down Monument Ave. lamenting the Arthur Ashe monument.
Probably a bunch of them upset that Lt. Governor Fairfax didn’t respect St. Robert of Lee too. The right has no room at all to lecture about this. They literally just nominated Corey Stewart last year.
re: #282 Barefoot Grin
Gonna be a lot of conflicted Virginia Republicans mulling Northrop’s racist stunt while driving down Monument Ave. lamenting the Arthur Ashe monument.
Not at all. Nothing done by any Republican ever since the dawn of time has been racist, according to Republicans.
hmm
I am indifferent on whether Northam resigns or not. I just think that based on the standards that the Republicans have established, they have no right to call for his resignation.
— Junior Senator (@WokeRomney) February 2, 2019
re: #62 Sir John Barron
Who would do that even in 1984? And in a yearbook? Not the blackface per se, but the KKK robe?
OK, I grew up in Southeastern Virginia and graduated high school in 1984. My freshman year, in the 1981 yearbook, on the organizational page for the Christian student organization, Young Life, there is a two -page spread of its 1980 Halloween party, in which one student can be prominently seen wearing a Klan hood and robe.
My high school opened in 1968 as an integrated school. Other schools in our district didn’t integrate until ca. 1972. I started school in 1972 in a freshly integrated school. I, and a number of my friends from my grandparents’ neighborhoods were assigned a black teacher. My friends’ parents pitched a fit over their first graders being taught by a black teacher and they were removed from my class. My parents insisted that I stayed where I was assigned. Now, my paternal grandparents were racist as hell. I grew up hearing them lamenting the passage of Jim Crow. Dad shared some of his parents’ racism and belonged to a whites-only golf club that was forced to integrate in 1987. When it was his privileged golf course being brought into the Civil Rights Era, THAT was a step too far for him.
My point: these displays of racism weren’t as uncommon as one would think in the eighties, especially among a certain segment of suburban white Virginians.
re: #282 Barefoot Grin
Gonna be a lot of conflicted Virginia Republicans mulling Northrop’s racist stunt while driving down Monument Ave. lamenting the Arthur Ashe monument.
Nah, this won’t cause any of them a moment of contemplation. They’ll serve up another dyed-in-the-wool racist next election who talks about “our heritage” and laments the tearing down of Confederate statutes, and see absolutely nothing wrong with it…because it still sells everywhere south of Fairfax.
re: #291 Targetpractice
Nah, this won’t cause any of them a moment of contemplation. They’ll serve up another dyed-in-the-wool racist next election who talks about “our heritage” and laments the tearing down of Confederate statutes, and see absolutely nothing wrong with it…because it still sells everywhere south of Fairfax.
It really does. And this gets me at a memory when I was at GMU which is in Fairfax coincidentally enough. I was driving downstate to a VA Dem function in Richmond. We had a couple out of staters in our group and I don’t think these kids had ever been in what George Allen famously called “the real Virginia.” They were shocked to see CSA flags and all that. It was definitely culture shock for them. And I remember a couple years before that when I posted on a forum that had both lefties and righties on it, one of the righties was from downstate and I definitely think he saw me as a Yankee intruder due to my NoVa residency and being the grandson of transplants. He was shocker a Lincoln was evil and the South was right type. He would call then candidate Obama “boy.”
Cool cool cool.
We lost the $150 million in cryptocurrencies that we held for customers because our founder died and he was the only one with the passwords to the wallets. Welcome to the financial future! https://t.co/81auPh1lxZ
— Nathaniel Popper (@nathanielpopper) February 1, 2019
While we’re talking about Northam, I read what he’d said that set all the wingnuts off earlier in the week, and I gotta say their reaction makes it utterly clear that they have ZERO empathy for parents, or indeed for the nonviable fetus Northam was talking about.
Here’s what he said:
“[Third trimester abortions are] done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that’s nonviable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen,” Northam, a pediatric neurosurgeon, told Washington radio station WTOP. “The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”
So, in their zeal to require birth under any and all circumstances, they would require the doctors to keep the nonviable fetus “alive” for as long as possible by whatever means, no matter how much pain that might inflict, on the baby or the family, no matter how futile it would ultimately be.
Northam’s a pediatric neurosurgeon, so I’m guessing he’s seen his share of babies born with no chance of surviving, but not dead yet. It happens, and since forever, they’ve been kept comfortable till they inevitably die. That’s clearly what Northam’s talking about.
re: #295 Blind Frog Belly White
While we’re talking about Northam, I read what he’d said that set all the wingnuts off earlier in the week, and I gotta say their reaction makes it utterly clear that they have ZERO empathy for parents, or indeed for the nonviable fetus Northam was talking about.
Here’s what he said:
So, in their zeal to require birth under any and all circumstances, they would require the doctors to keep the nonviable fetus “alive” for as long as possible by whatever means, no matter how much pain that might inflict, on the baby or the family, no matter how futile it would ultimately be.
Northam’s a pediatric neurosurgeon, so I’m guessing he’s seen his share of babies born with no chance of surviving, but not dead yet. It happens, and since forever, they’ve been kept comfortable till they inevitably die. That’s clearly what Northam’s talking about.
He was right about that. And yeah he’s seen his fair share of pain both as a doctor during Desert Storm and as a surgeon at a children’s hospital. He’s not a bad man by any means.
DEMS: Northam, Resign!
GOPS to DEMS: Stop defending him! You’re the real racists!— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) February 2, 2019
re: #297 Blind Frog Belly White
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Pretty much. They’re going to want to use this to go Aha! Seeeeeeeee. But it’s just gonna be another Schneidermann. Fairfax if Northam does resign is going to have his work cut out for him though. This is his first elected position. Northam in contrast went from being in the State Senate to being Lt Governor. and then Governor.
re: #297 Blind Frog Belly White
The VA GOP can go fuck itself with rusty farm implements. They have absolutely no business commenting on anyone else’s racism.
But by all means, never discuss what racist crap Republican Steve King said last month. Always focus on that a Dem did 35 year ago. I’m disappointed in Northam but Steve King always gets a full pass. Why?
Because Dems are always held to different standards. Always.— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) February 2, 2019
re: #300 MsJ
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re: #294 goddamnedfrank
It takes a doin’ to vanish $150 million. I give props.
VA GOP: “NORTHAM NEEDS TO RESIGN FOR BEING A RACIST! OR ELSE THE DEMS ARE JUST AS RACIST!”
DNC: “DON’T TELL US WHAT TO DO! Oh yeah, and Northam, you need to resign for the good of the party.”
And I just got an email from Democracy for America asking to sign a petition to ask Northam to resign. Man they’re defending him really hard huh Erickson!
re: #302 teleskiguy
It takes a doin’ to vanish $150 million. I give props.
In large part money appears and disappears at the whim of bankers, and by trying to get in on that sweet, sweet gig, the cryptocurrency clowns are in danger of giving the game away.
No, Gov. Northam, hiring Megyn Kelly as your communications director going forward is NOT your best idea.
— Robert A George (@RobGeorge) February 2, 2019
Nancy LeTourneau has an interesting article connected the spiraling decline of cable TV to its effect on political advertising, as that is what is the driver of big money in politics.
re: #303 Targetpractice
VA GOP: “NORTHAM NEEDS TO RESIGN FOR BEING A RACIST! OR ELSE THE DEMS ARE JUST AS RACIST!”
DNC: “DON’T TELL US WHAT TO DO! Oh yeah, and Northam, you need to resign for the good of the party.”
The DNC doesn’t have much of a choice here. The media is going to tilt 100.000% against the Democrats and Northam if he tries to hang on. It sucks that it isn’t that way for Republicans, but it’s a fact of life.
re: #302 teleskiguy
It takes a doin’ to vanish $150 million. I give props.
You’d think so, but all it took was one lazy and/or unimaginative asshole to design a system with a single point of failure.
re: #308 EPR-radar
The DNC doesn’t have much of a choice here. The media is going to tilt 100.000% against the Democrats and Northam if he tries to hang on. It sucks that it isn’t that way for Republicans, but it’s a fact of life.
Are we holding ourselves to our standards? Or the media’s?
Cryptocurrency speculators losing a quarter billion? Psh. Charles Keating alone vanished $2 billion with his savings-and-loan bank. The eighties. Good times.
This is such an important point. He has to go. And Every. Single. Road. Bridge. School. named after a Confederate anything in Virginia should be renamed next week. (And anything named for Harry Byrd.) Let’s see how the GOP legislature votes on that. https://t.co/YiLOgZpMD5
— Joshua Zeitz (@JoshuaMZeitz) February 2, 2019
re: #312 jaunte
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Sounds good to me. And yes I want to know why we should honor a man who put captured black Union men into slavery. We only get the white side of history when it comes to Lee’s story and I’m sad to say that for a while I bought the Lee mythos. The Lee the reluctant slaveowner, Lee the reluctant secessionist, Lee the hero not Lee who was in fact a brutal slave owner, Lee who could have followed George Thomas and thousands of other Virginians’ lead (Virginia of all the CSA states sent the most Union volunteers, and then there was Lee who as I said forced captured black Union men into slavery.
re: #307 retired cynic
Nancy LeTourneau has an interesting article connected the spiraling decline of cable TV to its effect on political advertising, as that is what is the driver of big money in politics.
I’m not sure that’s entirely a correct reading of the situation. If you have Sling or Hulu Live or one of the other services that offers live TV, you’re still getting commercials, because you’re still watching traditional TV channels, it’s just you’re watching over the internet instead via the cable box. The question for advertisers, not just political, is how many people are choosing to watch things the next day or later and thus not having to bother with commercials - which is something they’ve dealt with in the past (VCRs, DVRs) but now, when you can binge an entire season six months later instead of watching one episode a week, the calculus is changing again.
Nice to see there’s some media coverage of organized right wing harassment mobs.
It didn’t just start this week.
This has been happening to me, and I’ve been writing about it, for a decade.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 2, 2019
I must tell this story of a memory of history class I have. There was a required history class that we all had to take as history majors at GMU. I believe it was to help prepare us for our term papers. Anyhow the class I took was History in Popular Memory. It was a mostly white class except for one African-American young woman. In the class, there was a young white woman who in her spare time did re-enactments. This young woman wasn’t a bigot or anything like that but she definitely suffered from the rosy images of the CSA that you get in the South. And our African-American classmate was having none of that. I think she one time brought up and this is what’s stayed with me nearly ten years later about what the CSA flag means to her. Too often, we hear the CSA flag is about heritage, honor, pride, etc but it’s never thought to ask black people about it. That black was meant to keep them in bondage and later keep them inferior to whites. I’ve never owned a CSA flag and I proudly never will. In tribute to my Irish ancestors and the thousands of other men including my own second great grandfather, I have the flag of the 69th New York (The Irish Brigade) tattooed on my arm and the flag in my room/office. I’d be shocked if I met my second great grandfather today and he shared racially enlightened views but he was enlightened enough to not support destroying this country to preserve slavery and for that, John C. Schmittdiel is more of a hero than Robert E. Lee will ever be to me.
re: #312 jaunte
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The VA DNC could try…but the media would be too busy gnawing on Northam’s bones to care.
So Mitch McConnell has to step down now, right? pic.twitter.com/T91abNzG5y
— Neon Roses (@roses_neon) February 2, 2019
re: #319 HappyWarrior
And Mitch comes from a Union state no less.
Mitch actually comes from Alabama originally.
re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth
Mitch actually comes from Alabama originally.
True enough. The worst CSA fan boy though is Corey Stewart. He’s from Minnesota but talks like he’s from Mississippi. The CSA posers are the worst.
Twitter right now:
Liberals: Overwhelmingly disavowing Northam (as they should)
Media: Reporting on Northam
Conservatives: Saying liberals won’t disavow Northam and that the media won’t report on it— Lis Power (@LisPower1) February 1, 2019
This is heinous and hateful. I too am flooded with bigoted voicemails and calls every day.
Maybe we could meet and share notes on how to fight religious discrimination of all kinds?
Maybe over Somali tea, in your old office which I happen to be in now. https://t.co/FQ909kYSwo— Ilhan Omar (@IlhanMN) February 1, 2019
Yep. Our offices are flooded with bigoted calls too - so much so that we have to put energy into searching for actual constituents.
We forward all the threats to Capitol Police to build files. For all those who think your bigoted calls + digital threats are anonymous: Enjoy! https://t.co/Tw0LWnpmDh— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) February 1, 2019
Liberals: “You all are a bunch of racist hypocrites!”
VA GOP: “Doesn’t matter, got a scalp.”
Liberals: “You’ll pay for this at the polls!”
Media: “And we continue our coverage on the massive disaster for the VA DNC as Ralph Northam resigns in disgrace. Let’s go to our panel of Republican commentators to tell us how badly this will hurt the Dems in the next elections.”
re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth
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If Zeldin really thinks he’s going to get Omar to not disavow Anti-Semitism, he may in fact be more delusional than Ben Shapiro.
I guarantee you that Zeldin wasn’t expecting to get a thoughtful response from Congresswoman Omar.
re: #316 HappyWarrior
The bare facts of the relevant bits of US history are not kind to believers in Lost Cause mythology.
1) The confederacy started a civil war it had little chance of winning for the cause of preserving and extending chattel slavery. One of the union generals characterized that cause as “the worst cause for which men have fought”, which is very difficult to disagree with.
2) After the war, there was an attempt to enforce real civil rights for blacks in the South, but the resistance was massive and the nation grew tired of the struggle, culminating in the deal of 1877 that made Hayes (R) president in exchange for the end of Reconstruction. Not so incidentally, the two party system in the US only leads to normal political compromises etc. when the two parties basically agree on how screwed over black people should be. The deal of 1877 made that agreement as follows: the South could do as it pleased, as long as slavery wasn’t explicitly reintroduced. So could the North. It wasn’t like there was any real nationwide commitment to civil rights anywhere. When this agreement is not present, the two party system goes off the rails (e.g., the mid 19th century, the 20th century after the civil rights realignment).
3) After the end of Reconstruction, the powers that be in the South embarked on a vigorous campaign of terrorism to remove all the progress that had been made in Reconstruction. The end result was Jim Crow, which was made as awful as possible for blacks to fuel Lost Cause myth-making that black were better off under slavery.
4) In combination with the terrorism campaign, a propaganda war was launched that continues to this day. Notable examples include The Birth of a Nation and the corruption of public school history. E.g. citing the rise of ‘sectionalism’ as cause for the civil war to deflect away from the primary role of slavery.
re: #314 KGxvi
Sometimes even watching live we skip the commercials, I have you tube live for TV
Quite frequently during ESPN broadcasts, we get a blankscreen with the ESPN logo and a message that we are in commercial break with no commercial
Wow, cheers to a legendary athlete’s exceptional career https://t.co/x8wJDGfkld
— pinks (@yessmiss) February 1, 2019
She fessed up to surgeries she had last spring that she kept private, and she is coming to grips with the reality of the toll on her body her career as the most winningest World Cup ski racer the United States has ever seen has endured. She was the fastest, and she at times was also the crashest. She’s a legend.
Probably the most genuine/least hypocritical Never-Trumper there is:
Imagine if whole GOP did to Trump after Access Hollywood what Dems are doing to Northam now. Northam must go. I really am not impressed with any R who didn’t abandon Trump after Access Hollywood. It isn’t bothersiderism. It’s Northam go, R’s put a sock in it.
— Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) February 2, 2019
re: #330 teleskiguy
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She fessed up to surgeries she had last spring that she kept private, and she is coming to grips with the reality of the toll on her body her career as the most winningest World Cup ski racer the United States has ever seen has endured. She was the fastest, and she at times was also the crashest. She’s a legend.
Good luck ot her in her next chapter. And yeah a legend for sure. Transcended the sport.
re: #331 Interesting Times
Probably the most genuine/least hypocritical Never-Trumper there is:
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I know some of us don’t like Rubin but I think she does get it perhaps more than the overwhelming majority of the Never Trumpers. That doesn’t mean we’re ideological agreement and she won’t be invited to a DNC platform committee but she’s genuine.
I hope someone is going through all the other yearbooks at that medical school to look for similar photos.
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Big Pharma companies often say that drugs “need” to be expensive to fund research. What they don’t tell you is that they use *publicly-funded research* for expensive, privatized drugs.
This week on Oversight, @RoKhanna and I exposed how this scheme works:pic.twitter.com/ELbllU3Fxy— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) February 1, 2019
This is nuts - even I had no idea about this. https://t.co/5CvMEtSBQV
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) February 1, 2019
re: #336 HappyWarrior
This is why we need her in Congress.
I think she said this early but she’s bringing me around to this thinking: All Democrats in safe districts need to start speaking out like her or they should start getting challenges from smart, aggressive people who will take their jobs more seriously.
re: #337 Belafon
I think she said this early but she’s bringing me around to this thinking: All Democrats in safe districts need to start speaking out like her or they should start getting challenges from smart, aggressive people who will take their jobs more seriously.
No complaints from me. She’s an effective voice. She takes her job more seriously than many people who have been there longer.
Virginia newspaper weighs in:
Northam photo unforgivable, and also a symptom: Our View https://t.co/hghsaS9Vbu via @newsleadernow
— wmramsey (@wmramsey) February 2, 2019
Giving a mediocre white dude credit for the first 76 months of growth achieved by the first black president is also racism. This tweet by the GOP isn’t wearing a klan robe but the racism is still there. https://t.co/kJE8fuJMFv
— Aღanda (@GrnEyedMandy) February 2, 2019
re: #333 HappyWarrior
I know some of us don’t like Rubin but I think she does get it perhaps more than the overwhelming majority of the Never Trumpers. That doesn’t mean we’re ideological agreement and she won’t be invited to a DNC platform committee but she’s genuine.
She helped build it.
To me she’s a genuine asshole.
Speaking of racists who should be forced to resign … https://t.co/o95vJGy5m1
— Kaili Joy Gray (@KailiJoy) February 2, 2019
re: #339 Backwoods_Sleuth
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That’s probably one of the better games on it that I’ve seen.
You notice how Democrats are immediately and unequivocally calling for Ralph Northam’s resignation? They’re able to do that because they don’t have to worry about pandering to racists.
— Great Scott! 🇺🇸 (@GreatScott1991) February 2, 2019
re: #341 MsJ
She helped build it.
To me she’s a genuine asshole.
And now she’s trying to fix it imo. I get what you’re saying but I think she’s genuine I’m her disgust with the right. Does it make me forget the past? Nah but I appreciate that she’s using her pen to advocate against Trump and the right.
re: #340 jaunte
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And the assholes never acknowledged Obama’s role in that. Fuck them.
Seriously, how the fuck does he think he can ride this one out? I mean, besides white male privilege.
And—walk us through the thought process that led you to think that this photo was important to place in your yearbook. https://t.co/l72Nsf6TOU
— Soledad O’Brien (@soledadobrien) February 2, 2019
re: #346 HappyWarrior
Erasure, it’s the latest invisible Klan robe.
re: #344 goddamnedfrank
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That’s why I’m not worried about this effecting is. I’ve talked to other VA Dems. Not seeing any excuses.
re: #347 goddamnedfrank
Seriously, how the fuck does he think he can ride this one out? I mean, besides white male privilege.
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re: #345 HappyWarrior
And now she’s trying to fix it imo. I get what you’re saying but I think she’s genuine I’m her disgust with the right. Does it make me forget the past? Nah but I appreciate that she’s using her pen to advocate against Trump and the right.
She’s disgusted with trump. She’ll revert to her wholly assholeness once he’s gone.
Zebras don’t change their stripes. She broke it and she’ll tap on the cracks once trump is gone and break it all over again.
re: #201 William Lewis
VMI is what made it acceptable. VMI should have been razed after the war and then given the Arlington treatment.
It was the EVMS yearbook - Eastern Virginia Medical School in Norfolk - not VMI - Virginia Military Institute in Lexington.
Edited todd: Sorry. i see the correction has already been made. I’ve been in and out all day taking care of other business and haven’t been able to keep up. My apologies.
Our nation’s newest ethnicity is called “lost a war.” https://t.co/muijCwtDOK
— Kashana (@kashanacauley) February 1, 2019
I can understand why some democrats are defending him. Whatever he did back then doesn’t seem to be reflected in his actions today. And that’s why thet can keep him as a friend. But politics isn’t the same thing, and some choices we make for political reasons we wouldn’t make for personal ones.
re: #351 MsJ
She’s disgusted with trump. She’ll revert to her wholly assholeness once he’s gone.
Zebras don’t change their stripes. She broke it and she’ll tap on the cracks once trump is gone and break it all over again.
I respectfully disagree given that she’s called out the Congressional GOP. I hope you’re wrong.
The GOP needs to clean its house but never will, because the bigot brigade is the base. They can’t remove the base, or it’d cease to exist altogether.
Democrats can clean their house of bigots, because the party isn’t reliance on the bigots.
Northam’s going to be gone - the only question is how quickly he is gone. It’s not a question of if, but when.
And yet the GOP continue to enable a known racist, misogynist, and self-admitted sex predator in the WH. And a known white supremacist in Steve King. And known racists in FL, and elsewhere.
re: #353 jaunte
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You mean the same nation that beat “yours”, a nation you never lived in.
If you elect me president, I’m going to stop all the wars, give everybody healthcare, tax the goddamned churches and use the money to turn every Friday into a holiday celebrated with free tacos and whiskey.
Don’t say I didn’t warn you sons of bitches. https://t.co/Xe4jie30bP— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) February 2, 2019
re: #352 A Three Hour Tour
It was the EVMS yearbook - Eastern Virginia Medical School in Norfolk - not VMI - Virginia Military Institute in Lexington.
Covered. It was my fault for thinking this was VMI.
re: #357 HappyWarrior
I don’t think the U.S. ever legally acknowledged the rebels as an actual nation.
re: #355 HappyWarrior
I respectfully disagree given that she’s called out the Congressional GOP. I hope you’re wrong.
I’m glad some of the people here changed.
re: #360 jaunte
I don’t think the U.S. ever legally acknowledged the rebels as an actual nation.
No, they didn’t. I’m trying to think of the only country that acknowledged the CSA’s legitimacy. France and the UK definitely did not. That’s why the Battle of Antietam is so important. A lot of historians say if the Army of Northern Virginia had won that battle that France and the UK, both heavily dependent on Southern cotton would have recongized the CSA’s legitimacy. And thus inspired Abe’s Emancipation Proclamation.
re: #347 goddamnedfrank
Seriously, how the fuck does he think he can ride this one out? I mean, besides white male privilege.
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There’s the example of Byrd, but that was long enough ago to have been in a different world.
re: #362 Belafon
I’m glad some of the people here changed.
Ditto. I understand why she mistrusts Rubin but I think Rubin IMO has earned it. A lot of us here went along with the McCain’s campaign fears about Obama’s presidency. We don’t need Rubin to be our friend or have her shape our ideology but if she’s going to use her influence to write against Trump and the right, let’s welcome and appreciate that. She definitely IMO is far more sincere than most of the conservatives who don’t like Trump but routinely make excuses for the right/GOP’s actions and Jen to her credit doesn’t do that.
re: #364 EPR-radar
There’s the example of Byrd, but that was long enough ago to have been in a different world.
With Byrd, you had something like 50 years passing I believe.And that was full of GOP hypocrisy as well since they still had Helms and Thurmond, who I have never seen any conservative Republican sincerely disavow.
re: #359 HappyWarrior
Covered. It was my fault for thinking this was VMI.
There’s nothing good in that VMI yearbook either.
Ralph Northam’s senior yearbook at VMI says one of his nicknames was “Coonman.” I don’t dare speculate as to what that means.
Here’s the link to the yearbook archive: https://t.co/To8p8ln8Xr pic.twitter.com/jrNra2fiEK— Amber Athey (@amber_athey) February 1, 2019
re: #365 HappyWarrior
Ditto. I understand why she mistrusts Rubin but I think Rubin IMO has earned it. A lot of us here went along with the McCain’s campaign fears about Obama’s presidency. We don’t need Rubin to be our friend or have her shape our ideology but if she’s going to use her influence to write against Trump and the right, let’s welcome and appreciate that. She definitely IMO is far more sincere than most of the conservatives who don’t like Trump but routinely make excuses for the right/GOP’s actions and Jen to her credit doesn’t do that.
My main question about GOP reform is whether it is even possible.
The GOP exists to funnel money to the billionaires. But that hasn’t been a vote getter for a long time, which is why the GOP gets its votes from a big tent of resentful deplorables that can be reliably activated on various single issue grudges using simplistic propaganda.
The GOP is likely nothing without its hate. E.g., Schultz’s clinically interesting favorability (i.e., flatline, DOA) suggests that an agenda of being civilized on social issues and nice to the billionaires is a total non-starter for both left and right.
So how does the GOP move away from a formula of providing hate to get votes?
re: #368 EPR-radar
My main question about GOP reform is whether it is even possible.
The GOP exists to funnel money to the billionaires. But that hasn’t been a vote getter for a long time, which is why the GOP gets its votes from a big tent of resentful deplorables that can be reliably activated on various single issue grudges using simplistic propaganda.
The GOP is likely nothing without its hate. E.g., Schultz’s clinically interesting favorability (i.e., flatline, DOA) suggests that an agenda of being civilized on social issues and nice to the billionaires is a total non-starter for both left and right.
So how does the GOP move away from a formula of providing hate to get votes?
They don’t. Either the Republican Party dies or our democracy dies in my opinion
re: #367 lawhawk
There’s nothing good in that VMI yearbook either.
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re: #368 EPR-radar
My main question about GOP reform is whether it is even possible.
The GOP exists to funnel money to the billionaires. But that hasn’t been a vote getter for a long time, which is why the GOP gets its votes from a big tent of resentful deplorables that can be reliably activated on various single issue grudges using simplistic propaganda.
The GOP is likely nothing without its hate. E.g., Schultz’s clinically interesting favorability (i.e., flatline, DOA) suggests that an agenda of being civilized on social issues and nice to the billionaires is a total non-starter for both left and right.
So how does the GOP move away from a formula of providing hate to get votes?
What I really think needs to happen is a sane center-right needs to emerge but that’s only going to happen is the GOP is shown that the bigotry it’s operated under for the past 50 years since Nixon began the Southern Strategy is a loser. It’s worked for them. The best we can unfortunately hope for now is just beating them into submission.
re: #370 Old Liberal
They don’t. Either the Republican Party dies or our democracy dies in my opinion
That’s exactly how I see it.
Anticipating what Trump will say, now is the time to highlight his role in demonizing and calling for the death penalty the innocent boys in the Central Park case. He took out a full-page ad.
re: #374 EPR-radar
I don’t think it will die while there are enough millions of people who support their particular line of bulkshit.
re: #375 Barefoot Grin
Anticipating what Trump will say, now is the time to highlight his role in demonizing and calling for the death penalty the innocent boys in the Central Park case. He took out a full-page ad.
It didn’t stop him or Huckabee Sanders for feigning outrage at how the Covington boys were treated. I bet you he’ll have a stupid and possibly racist nickname for Northam.
re: #373 HappyWarrior
What I really think needs to happen is a sane center-right needs to emerge but that’s only going to happen is the GOP is shown that the bigotry it’s operated under for the past 50 years since Nixon began the Southern Strategy is a loser. It’s worked for them. The best we can unfortunately hope for now is just beating them into submission.
The problem is this: If we kill off the GOP, we still have the racists, and they are a large part of the country, still holding sway in many states. How do we marginalize them, which is what we all really want?
re: #370 Old Liberal
They don’t. Either the Republican Party dies or our democracy dies in my opinion
GOP Delenda Est.
re: #373 HappyWarrior
What I really think needs to happen is a sane center-right needs to emerge but that’s only going to happen is the GOP is shown that the bigotry it’s operated under for the past 50 years since Nixon began the Southern Strategy is a loser. It’s worked for them. The best we can unfortunately hope for now is just beating them into submission.
The problem is that there are enough bigots and fellow-travellers of bigots in the US that the chance of the GOP suffering crushing enough losses to force a change away from this shit is zero.
The GOP is always either running things or in a strong enough minority position to fuck everything up. The ACA and some other reforms in Obama’s first two years is like the only exception to this rule since 1980 or so, when the civil rights realignment was completed.
re: #369 gwangung
Ally. Not a friend.
Not even.
“The enemy of my enemy is my enemies enemy. No more. No less.” Maxim 29
re: #294 goddamnedfrank
I had heard about the QuadrigaCX shutdown, but only today got to see the details.
So, the CEO of the company had sole control of the exchange funds. According to the Coindesk article, he would move funds from the exchange’s hot wallets (the ones that face the users of the exchange) to the cold wallets (the ones that are not connected to the Internet). Wisely, he encrypted the cold wallets to prevent hacking attacks. Unwisely, he’s the only one who apparently had the decryption code.
Why anyone thought this was a good idea defies description. You never ever have one person in sole control of a company’s funds.
As of Jan. 31, 2019, there were roughly 115,000 users with balances signed up on the exchange, with $70 million CAD in fiat and $180 million CAD in crypto owed overall, according to the filing.
The exchange holds roughly 26,500 bitcoin ($92.3 million USD), 11,000 bitcoin cash ($1.3 million), 11,000 bitcoin cash SV ($707,000), 35,000 bitcoin gold ($352,000), nearly 200,000 litecoin ($6.5 million) and about 430,000 ether ($46 million), totaling $147 million, according to the affidavit.
It was not clear what portion of the exchange’s crypto holding were kept in cold storage, versus its hot wallet. In the affidavit, Robertson explained that “only a minimal amount of coins” were stored in the hot wallet, but specifics were not provided.
Jennifer Robertson is the widow of the now-deceased CEO, Gerald Cotten, according to court documents.
More from CoinTelegraph:
Per The Globe and Mail, Cotten mostly worked form his computer at home, which is encrypted. Cotten’s wife, Jennifer Robertson, reportedly stated in an affidavit, “I do not know the password or recovery key. Despite repeated and diligent searches, I have not been able to find them written down anywhere.” Robertson purportedly went so far as to hire a cybersecurity expert to “hack into Gerry’s computers” to no avail.
Other exchange operators told The Globe and Mail that it was unusual for a single executive to control access to an exchange’s funds, as it would have made Cotten a target for kidnapping and extortion. Michael Gokturk, CEO Einstein Exchange in Vancouver, said, “It’s the equivalent of walking around with millions of dollars in cash on you at all times.”
Users of the platform, some of whom were already unable to withdraw funds due to a legal battle between the exchange and a major Canadian bank, took to Twitter and Reddit following an announcement of Cotten’s passing. Some users asked for proof of death or an obituary.
Robertson’s affidavit reportedly states, “There have also been threats made against [her]. “Slanderous comments have been made against [her] and sent through Facebook messenger to [her] entire contact list.” Robertson is reportedly funding the creditor protection motion herself and a preliminary hearing has been set for Feb. 5.
IOW, the exchange was being run by a rank amateur who had no business being in charge of millions of dollars of other people’s money.
Also, this failure is another example of why no one should ever store large sums of money on a cryptocurrency exchange.
re: #374 EPR-radar
That’s exactly how I see it.
It’s not just the bigotry. It is obscenely wealthy people destroying education and pushing propaganda that promotes anti-science and anti-general welfare. They are deliberately creating rubes.
Steve Scalise, the second most powerful Republican in the House, proudly called himself David Duke without the baggage.
Republicans, if you are serious about opposing racism — and we know you’re not — you need to get HIM to resign.— Kaili Joy Gray (@KailiJoy) February 2, 2019
re: #384 jaunte
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re: #344 goddamnedfrank
Not to mention our party actually has some integrity.
re: #378 Belafon
The problem is this: If we kill off the GOP, we still have the racists, and they are a large part of the country, still holding sway in many states. How do we marginalize them, which is what we all really want?
I don’t know. What troubles me is social liberalism seems to really bring out their worst impulses but we need social liberalism to have progress.
re: #375 Barefoot Grin
Anticipating what Trump will say, now is the time to highlight his role in demonizing and calling for the death penalty the innocent boys in the Central Park case. He took out a full-page ad.
Even after their innocence was basically proven, Trump continued to insist, as late as the 2016 campaign, that they were guilty, and that the settlement was a farce.
re: #380 EPR-radar
The problem is that there are enough bigots and fellow-travellers of bigots in the US that the chance of the GOP suffering crushing enough losses to force a change away from this shit is zero.
The GOP is always either running things or in a strong enough minority position to fuck everything up. The ACA and some other reforms in Obama’s first two years is like the only exception to this rule since 1980 or so, when the civil rights realignment was completed.
You’re right. That is what makes this difficult.
re: #387 HappyWarrior
I don’t know. What troubles me is social liberalism seems to really bring out their worst impulses but we need social liberalism to have progress.
I really think it’s telling that the 2-party system in the US only seems to function as a normal political system when the parties agree on how badly blacks and other minorities should be screwed over.
Ever since the civil rights realignment, the US has been ungovernable because the GOP is the party of racists and the Democrats aren’t (finally).
re: #390 EPR-radar
I really think it’s telling that the 2-party system in the US only seems to function as a normal political system when the parties agree on how badly blacks and other minorities should be screwed over.
Ever since the civil right realignment, the US has been ungovernable because the GOP is the party of racists and the Democrats aren’t (finally).
I just wonder how long it can last. It’s not really a geographic divide. It’s a mindset divide. If there is a geographic divide, it’s not between regions, it’s between urban/suburban and rural. And the divide is even more apparent IMO when it comes to education.
I just learned that in order to buy a house in an upmarket suburb, Cory Booker‘s parents had a white couple pose as them through the entire house buying process until the day came to sign the contract. The realtor was so enraged he physically assaulted them.
— Mx. Amadi (@amaditalks) February 1, 2019
re: #382 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
As of Jan. 31, 2019, there were roughly 115,000 users with balances signed up on the exchange, with $70 million CAD in fiat and $180 million CAD in crypto owed overall, according to the filing.
These scam artists are really wedded to that supposed insult “fiat” currency aren’t they? Real currency, issued by a government, has something backing it up. As I’ve said before, if you can pull “money” out of your ass and get anybody to accept it, more power to you, but what could be more “fiat” (let it be) currency than that?
And why in heaven’s name do you need computers churning away massive amounts of electricity to do it? “Look, you rubes, this here is money!” There—very little energy expended. This is complete idiocy that makes tulipomania look intelligent.
One thing I’m thinking about tonight are the men/women who shaped my worldviews. Mostly white people as I’m a white male with two white parents and four white grandparents and who had mostly white authority figures in school, youth sports, etc. I would never say I was “color blind” but I do think I just tried to see people as people. Yeah I knew my good friend growing up was from Peru but what mattered was that we had common interests. I don’t know anything about Northam’s upbringing or the culture at that medical college but from even an early age, things like the KKK weren’t a joke to me. I remember my grandfather- a child of an immigrant telling us about the KKK going through his hometown. And I knew that the CIvil Rights Movement wasn’t the PG rated version we got in school. I just don’t understand what made a 25 year old guy think dressing up in KKK or blackface was not only funny but worthy of his yearbook for all posterity to see.
re: #392 Belafon
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Oh wow, I never knew that. But yeah lest anyone think the North was this enlightened paradise and only the South was awful.
I still think one of the most profound things is reading black athletes talk about their duality experiences. A hero when they make the homer or big catch but then they have trouble finding a good place to live to raise their families.
re: #394 HappyWarrior
One thing I’m thinking about tonight are the men/women who shaped my worldviews. Mostly white people as I’m a white male with two white parents and four white grandparents and who had mostly white authority figures in school, youth sports, etc. I would never say I was “color blind” but I do think I just tried to see people as people. Yeah I knew my good friend growing up was from Peru but what mattered was that we had common interests. I don’t know anything about Northam’s upbringing or the culture at that medical college but from even an early age, things like the KKK weren’t a joke to me. I remember my grandfather- a child of an immigrant telling us about the KKK going through his hometown. And I knew that the CIvil Rights Movement wasn’t the PG rated version we got in school. I just don’t understand what made a 25 year old guy think dressing up in KKK or blackface was not only funny but worthy of his yearbook for all posterity to see.
Are things different now than they used to be? Every yearbook I knew anything about, it was up to the students to provide the face pics for the alphabetical section, but the editors chose what other pictures to put in. Doesn’t excuse the existence of the picture in the first place, but I doubt if Northam had any say in its appearance in the yearbook.
re: #397 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Are things different now than they used to be? Every yearbook I knew anything about, it was up to the students to provide the face pics for the alphabetical section, but the editors chose what other pictures to put in. Doesn’t excuse the existence of the picture in the first place, but I doubt if Northam had any say in its appearance in the yearbook.
I’m not sure. I’ve been out of school awhile myself. For some photos, I doubt you get a say. Like there are photos of me in lectures or attending extracurricular activities but something like the photos we saw, I think he did have a say since it was his graduation photo page. And if the yearbook committee had access to it, it would suggest that this kind of thing wasn’t uncommon at the Med school.
re: #392 Belafon
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I’m Jewish. When my parents were looking to purchase a home in the DC region during the late 1950’s they also bumped against redlining. Clearly it was not as severe as that against Afro-Americans. And, at that time it was starting to dissolve.
My father also told us stories about his experience when applying for college in the 1930’s as a Jew. And mentioned in passing, issues he encountered as a Jew, working in the State Department.
re: #399 ckkatz
I’m Jewish. When my parents were looking to purchase a home in the DC region during the late 1950’s they also bumped against redlining. Clearly it was not as severe as that against Afro-Americans. And, at that time it was starting to dissolve.
My father also told us stories about his experience when applying for college in the 1930’s as a Jew. And mentioned in passing, issues he encountered as a Jew, working in the State Department.
I do wonder if my grandparents experiences as Catholics who had it better than Jews and other racial minorities informed their views a little. In my family research, I discovered my father’s grandfather was born into a Lutheran family but his grandmother was born into a Catholic one. My grandfather and his siblings were more or less raised Catholic. So maybe the mixed faith background impacted my grandfather in how he taught my aunts, uncles, & Dad how to treat people. Add to that, Dads mom was from a more modest socioeconomic background as well. I dunno. I would never call my background “exotic” but I do have close ancestors who defined the conventions of their times.
re: #393 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
These scam artists are really wedded to that supposed insult “fiat” currency aren’t they? Real currency, issued by a government, has something backing it up. As I’ve said before, if you can pull “money” out of your ass and get anybody to accept it, more power to you, but what could be more “fiat” (let it be) currency than that?
And why in heaven’s name do you need computers churning away massive amounts of electricity to do it? “Look, you rubes, this here is money!” There—very little energy expended. This is complete idiocy that makes tulipomania look intelligent.
Fiat currency is a term coined by the hard-money crowd, and there is substantial overlap in the Venn diagram of hard-money believers and cryptocurrency users. A lot also subscribe to Austrian economics, so add another circle to the diagram. Cryptos are believed to be true “free market” currencies, free from government regulation because that’s bad, in their view. Then, we have unregulated exchanges go belly up. Yay, freedom!
Not all cryptocurrencies chew up massive amounts of electricity, though. Those that do use proof of work (aka “mining”) as a way to secure and verify transactions. Bitcoin is the main culprit, with Ethereum a close second. Others are less resource intensive. There are other systems that require holding a certain amount of a crypto in a node to secure and verify transactions. Those don’t use much electricity to operate. Examples would be NEM and Ardor, which don’t get much press in the USA, but are popular in Japan and Europe, respectively.
When you get right down to it, a currency or commodity has value only because the people using it agree on the value. That’s true no matter if the item is a gold Sovereign, a $5 bill, or a bitcoin.
Old white men are not going to save us https://t.co/15Wic2gfL3
— Kaili Joy Gray (@KailiJoy) February 2, 2019
So, I see Google is adding Google+ to the Google dustbin of projects destined to be shitcanned by Google.
Good thing I hardly ever used it.
re: #382 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
I had heard about the QuadrigaCX shutdown, but only today got to see the details.
So, the CEO of the company had sole control of the exchange funds. According to the Coindesk article, he would move funds from the exchange’s hot wallets (the ones that face the users of the exchange) to the cold wallets (the ones that are not connected to the Internet). Wisely, he encrypted the cold wallets to prevent hacking attacks. Unwisely, he’s the only one who apparently had the decryption code.
Why anyone thought this was a good idea defies description. You never ever have one person in sole control of a company’s funds.
Or… it’s a lie. He gave her the passwords/decryption code before he died, she’s pretending it died with him. And she’ll turn up in a couple of years in a no-extradition country with a fortune she’ll refuse to explain the origin of.
Bros are saying Bernie looks good for endorsing Perriello over him. And uh no. I’m sorry but no. Bernie didn’t object to Northam because of racial issues. He thought he wasn’t what he wanted on economics. That’s totally different.
re: #405 sagehen
Or… it’s a lie. He gave her the passwords/decryption code before he died, she’s pretending it died with him. And she’ll turn up in a couple of years in a no-extradition country with a fortune she’ll refuse to explain the origin of.
Sounds like he was following the “don’t share your passwords” protocol like we have at work, but didn’t plan on someone else needing to get in.
re: #390 EPR-radar
I really think it’s telling that the 2-party system in the US only seems to function as a normal political system when the parties agree on how badly blacks and other minorities should be screwed over.
Ever since the civil rights realignment, the US has been ungovernable because the GOP is the party of racists and the Democrats aren’t (finally).
Reminder: the reason we were able to get Social Security and Medicare is because FDR cut a deal with the southern democrats that farmworkers and domestic staff were specifically excluded. So… 3/4 of black people.
re: #408 sagehen
Reminder: the reason we were able to get Social Security and Medicare is because FDR cut a deal with the southern democrats that farmworkers and domestic staff were specifically excluded. So… 3/4 of black people.
Yep.
re: #405 sagehen
Or… it’s a lie. He gave her the passwords/decryption code before he died, she’s pretending it died with him. And she’ll turn up in a couple of years in a no-extradition country with a fortune she’ll refuse to explain the origin of.
Yeah, there is also that possibility. Putting the funds in cold wallets, though, does not disguise them from the blockchain. If I move 1.0 bitcoin from address X in the hot wallet to address Y in the cold wallet, that 1.0 bitcoin will still have address Y when it leaves the cold wallet to go to address Z. Smart people should now be monitoring all those addresses to make sure no funny stuff is going on behind the scenes.
re: #400 HappyWarrior
I do wonder if my grandparents experiences as Catholics who had it better than Jews and other racial minorities informed their views a little. In my family research, I discovered my father’s grandfather was born into a Lutheran family but his grandmother was born into a Catholic one. My grandfather and his siblings were more or less raised Catholic. So maybe the mixed faith background impacted my grandfather in how he taught my aunts, uncles, & Dad how to treat people. Add to that, Dads mom was from a more modest socioeconomic background as well. I dunno. I would never call my background “exotic” but I do have close ancestors who defined the conventions of their times.
I suspect that your family did experience prejudice. Remember that John F Kennedy had to address his Catholicism directly with the American public. And had to convince US voters that he was not secretly beholden to the ‘foreign’ Vatican.
In Pittsburgh, in the 1960’s, each hill-top and valley was considered an ethnic neighborhood. Tell someone which neighborhood you were from and you pretty much identified your ethnic and economic class. And there was still subtle ‘ordering’ of ethnic groups.
Pittsburgh’s Taylor Alderdice High School drew from two neighborhoods (Greenfield and Squirrel Hill) and there were fist fights in the halls and local streets (known as jumping. And usually many against one). It wasn’t integrated with an African -American neighborhood until 1969, which led to several days of even more fist fights in the halls and streets near the school.
Interestingly, if you stayed within your own neighborhood, you generally did not meet much prejudice. It was only when you left the neighborhood for the public spots that the prejudice was directly encountered.
Whoa o_O
Punch line: Roy Moore’s people own the site that posted the photo. https://t.co/mOYK4kbZmw pic.twitter.com/pEHk8K7v6H
— Will Saletan (@saletan) February 2, 2019
re: #411 ckkatz
I suspect that your family did experience prejudice. Remember that John F Kennedy had to address his Catholicism directly with the American public. And had to convince US voters that he was not secretly beholden to the ‘foreign’ Vatican.
In Pittsburgh, in the 1960’s, each hill-top and valley was considered an ethnic neighborhood. Tell someone which neighborhood you were from and you pretty much identified your ethnic and economic class. And there was still subtle ‘ordering’ of ethnic groups.
Pittsburgh’s Taylor Alderdice High School drew from two neighborhoods (Greenfield and Squirrel Hill) and there were fist fights in the halls and local streets (known as jumping. And usually many against one). It wasn’t integrated with an African -American neighborhood until 1969, which led to several days of even more fist fights in the halls and streets near the school.
Interestingly, if you stayed within your own neighborhood, you generally did not meet much prejudice. It was only when you left the neighborhood for the public spots that the prejudice was directly encountered.
Yep and my Dad and his siblings attended Catholic school in Virginia. My dads parents were a common North Side mix, German father and Irish mother. I also think it was a little tough for my Nana since she had lost her own mom young and I think had a little bit of a chip on her shoulder about being the elevator operator’s daughter marrying the bank executive’s son. Dunno but it’s something I never really thought about. My moms parents were more or less from the same background. Both miners’ kids and immigrant parents.
Uh, have you MET Steve King of Iowa? https://t.co/yXt4Ex4H89
— Malcolm P. Johnson (@admiralmpj) February 2, 2019
re: #407 Belafon
Sounds like he was following the “don’t share your passwords” protocol like we have at work, but didn’t plan on someone else needing to get in.
There are all sorts of ways to mitigate such a situation, such as dividing up the passphrase among several people, leaving part of it locked in a safe deposit box or kept by a lawyer, etc.
Our reliance on electronic finance generally (and not just cryptocurrencies) not only means protecting your passwords and account information, but also ensuring that your heirs or successors can access your funds after you die. If you are the head of company with custody of millions of dollars, that responsibility is even greater.
re: #351 MsJ
She’s disgusted with trump. She’ll revert to her wholly assholeness once he’s gone.
Zebras don’t change their stripes. She broke it and she’ll tap on the cracks once trump is gone and break it all over again.
I disagree. I remember in the early 1990’s when Arianna Huffington was just like Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham, before she broke with the Right and later founded the Left-leaning site Huffington Post. And David Brock was a right wing operative before he did some soul searching and left the Right, later on to start Media Matters. Even Charles Johnson broke with the Right because of their overt racism, ten years ago. Recent Conservatives that renounced the Republican Party, other than Jennifer Rubins, former Breitbart writer Kurt Berdella, Joe Scarborough, and former Standard Weekly writer Max Boot.
re: #415 jaunte
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Uh no he wouldn’t be. Your party would be insisting he was just a kid.
re: #42 Sea Mexican
*Scratches Arkansas from places to consider moving.*
It was never on any list of mine…