“Normie-to-Fascist Pipeline” Analysis Shows How Red-Pilling Turns Ordinary Trolls Into Violent Wackos

The whole “GamerGate” movement was a real inflection point; we knew it was bad, but not THIS bad
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The team of cyber-warfare researchers over at Bellingcat have unpacked what is being called the “Normie-to-fascist pipeline”

“The great meme war” is a reference to time this user spent on 4chan and possibly 8chan, creating far-right memes in order to red-pill other people during the election. The whole exchange paints a picture of a man who was initially ensnared by candidate Trump’s rhetoric and then driven towards far-right media and, eventually, extremist communities on 4chan. There his commitment to fascist ideology crystalized.

The more you drill down into this, the more often the nym “Sargon of Akkad” starts coming up:

We see a steady spiral, from arguments in comment sections to far-right YouTube personalities to “the_donald” subreddit to 4chan’s /pol/ board and eventually to fascist Discord servers. This user singles out Sargon of Akkad (British Youtuber Carl Benjamin) for special praise and considers him a major influence. One of Sargon’s most popular video series’ is, “Why Do Men Hate #Feminism?” (Episode #1 is titled “Feminists Hate Women.”)

In later posts barD claims the “gradual red-pilling” of Sargon’s videos stopped him from being a feminist. He also praises Sargon as an “easier step” away from liberal views than outright Nazism. Once he’d taken that step and gotten used to Sargon’s rhetoric, it was easier for him to get used to the more extreme atmosphere of /pol/.

It’s not uncommon for white supremacist, fascist and anti-Semitic beliefs to arise initially as the result of humor.

(snip) Ironic memes gave this individual a chance to get used to the temperature before diving in.

Longtime commenters hereabouts are probably getting a strong case of deja vu right about now. We’ve seen this shit happening, going back to when our host Charles was calling attention to the toxic stew over at GamerGate.

This piece really shows the power of just listening to what these goons say, and then tracing back where these ideas come from. We’re seeing in the shootings in New Zealand and the attempted pipe-bombing of Trump’s enemies, how these toxic ideologies are causing real death & destruction.

One consistent theme is the hyper-masculinity and aggressive bragging that has - again - come out of the online gaming community.

Anxious much, guys? Sorry about your little weenie …

…and then there’s race.

Oh yeah. Frightened little white boys in their mom’s basements are all up into hating on black folks because, well, inadequacies (see above).

And here come some very UNsurprising data points:

Fascists who become red-pilled through YouTube often start with comparatively less extreme right-wing personalities, like Ben Shapiro or Milo Yiannopolous.

One user explained that he was a “moderate republican” before “Steven Crowder, Paul Joseph Watson, Milo Yiannopolos, Black Pidgeon Speaks,” and other far-right YouTubers slowly red-pilled him. Over time he “moved further and further right until [he] could no longer stand them. That’s why [he likes] those groups even still, because if we just had the Fascists, we’d never convert anyone.”

Red pill yourself and all your friends! All the cool kids are doing it!

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242 comments
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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:31:21pm

Great page - promoted!

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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:31:27pm
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MsJ  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:35:10pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:38:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:38:53pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:39:26pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

I hope that’s a joke. Not a funny joke but a joke nonetheless. He’s part of the reason we have Trump in the White House. Arghhhhh!!!

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Targetpractice  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:39:36pm

Welcome to the new norm in politics:

A second woman has come forward to accuse former Vice President Joe Biden of touching her inappropriately.

In an interview with the Hartford Courant, 43-year-old Amy Lappos said that she thought Biden was going to kiss her on the mouth at a 2009 fundraiser.

“It wasn’t sexual, but he did grab me by the head,” Lappos said. “He put his hand around my neck and pulled me in to rub noses with me. When he was pulling me in, I thought he was going to kiss me on the mouth.”

To his credit, Biden isn’t issuing blanket denials or accusing the women who’ve stepped forward of being liars. But this is era of #MeToo and such accusations are a political kiss of death.

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freetoken  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:44:43pm

re: #7 Targetpractice

Perhaps it’s just the sign of the times.

Older men in our society come from a time when patriarchal habits, not really intended to be assaults of any kind, included treating women as children. And part of that included patting on the head, grabbing hands, etc.

Now a big part of this country really wants to return to the age of patriarchies, and for them these type of allegations against Biden they will see as just comeuppance for all the “libruls”.

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Lidane  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:44:52pm

I knew someone who “red pilled” herself. She went from being a funny, sarcastic person who loved to talk about music and bands to a Trump fan to being a fangirl of groups like the Proud Boys and cheering on the Charlottesville Nazis as standing up for whites. It was exhausting. I was so relieved when she finally deleted her Facebook page.

God knows where she is now. Probably shitposting on 4chan and bleating about QAnon. My FB timeline has been much saner since she left.

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Jack Burton  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:45:22pm

re: #7 Targetpractice

But this is era of #MeToo and such accusations are a political kiss of death.

Unless you are in the Trump Crime Family.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:45:52pm
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Jack Burton  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:49:55pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

I regret that I have only one upding to give for this post.

I hate April Fools Day like Ms White hated Yvette in the Clue movie.

“Flames… Flames on the side of my face.”

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gocart mozart  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:50:46pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:51:10pm

re: #7 Targetpractice

Welcome to the new norm in politics:

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To his credit, Biden isn’t issuing blanket denials or accusing the women who’ve stepped forward of being liars. But this is era of #MeToo and such accusations are a political kiss of death.

From the original source:

“I never filed a complaint, to be honest, because he was the vice president. I was a nobody,” Lappos said. “There’s absolutely a line of decency. There’s a line of respect. Crossing that line is not grandfatherly. It’s not cultural. It’s not affection. It’s sexism or misogyny.”

The ‘nobody’ thing will be seen again and again. It can also be true that Biden believes he was never being inappropriate, at the same time women feel he was. Biden thought he was being encouraging to someone who needed appreciation. There’s a little classism mixed in with the sexism. Lappos was a congressional aide volunteering at her boss’ fundraiser.

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steve_davis  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:51:28pm

re: #7 Targetpractice

Welcome to the new norm in politics:

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To his credit, Biden isn’t issuing blanket denials or accusing the women who’ve stepped forward of being liars. But this is era of #MeToo and such accusations are a political kiss of death.

what the hell is wrong with this man? He’s irish, I get that. and the irish can be really physical, like italians. but damnit. you just have to know not to do this stuff. I like to hug people as well. nearly freaked out a coworker by sort of offering a hug because we hadn’t seen each other in several months and there was a weird awkward space that felt like maybe I was supposed to offer the hug. And the body language was like, “No don’t do that,” so I didn’t then pull her in and rub noses with her. Jesus that’s just creepy as hell.

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KGxvi  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:51:52pm

re: #8 freetoken

I remember a lot of people finding George W Bush rubbing Angela Merkel’s shoulders to be creepy AF. But it just sort of passed on without much comment.

Trump’s election obviously changed something and in a real way. Biden is probably going to be a victim of that change, and that’s probably not a bad thing, all things considered. It’s not like the “Uncle Joe” nickname came only from a “good” place.

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freetoken  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:55:04pm
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:57:25pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Great page - promoted!

Thanks, boss. Glad to contribute around here. Haven’t been able to spend as much time as I’d like with the community hereabouts. My way of giving back.

Y’all keep me sane and distracted with otter/kitty memes on the days when I just want to lie down in front a bus to escape the cavalcade of shit that is the daily news cycle.

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ObserverArt  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:57:30pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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Piss off Jimmy!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:00:20pm

re: #7 Targetpractice

Welcome to the new norm in politics:

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To his credit, Biden isn’t issuing blanket denials or accusing the women who’ve stepped forward of being liars. But this is era of #MeToo and such accusations are a political kiss of death.

Before this is over, we’ll probably see allegations against almost every candidate. They’ve become a weapon to use to derail peoples careers, even if said accusations are completely unfounded.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:05:53pm

Am I the only one who has seen the photo of both of Flores’ shoulders being grabbed from behind by Bernie? And of Flores grabbing Biden’s shoulder from behind?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:08:25pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:08:59pm

re: #20 Eclectic Cyborg

Before this is over, we’ll probably see allegations against almost every candidate. They’ve become a weapon to use to derail peoples careers, even if said accusations are completely unfounded.

When you can’t win on your politics start throwing the mud around.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:14:35pm

good grief

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:15:26pm
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KGxvi  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:15:41pm

re: #21 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Am I the only one who has seen the photo of both of Flores’ shoulders being grabbed from behind by Bernie? And of Flores grabbing Biden’s shoulder from behind?

Seen them, and the difference, I suppose is one of consent. Posing for a picture is different that an unwanted shoulder rub and/or kiss.

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ObserverArt  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:18:10pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

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…look out, the swamp may have been drained but it was right into the DC sewers and now the sewers are backing up and the turds are floating around again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:19:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:20:17pm
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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:20:41pm

re: #26 KGxvi

Seen them, and the difference, I suppose is one of consent. Posing for a picture is different that an unwanted shoulder rub and/or kiss.

The one where Bernie is grabbing her shoulders? I don’t know where that consent is implied. Did he ask? Was that a pose? I can’t tell.

In the other one, she is grabbing Biden’s shoulder for a selfie. Do you think she asked Biden for his positive okay before she grabbed him?

How could he have known he needed consent if she didn’t and if Bernie didn’t.

Sorry, I can’t accept implied consent* just because it isn’t Biden doing it.

* And I hate being touched or touching others ink public; my blood curdles at academic meetings where I have to effing HUG everyone. Grr.

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KGxvi  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:22:19pm

re: #30 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

The one where Bernie is grabbing her shoulders? I don’t know where that consent is implied. Did he ask? Was that a pose? I can’t tell.

In the other one, she is grabbing Biden’s shoulder for a selfie. Do you think she asked Biden for his positive okay before she grabbed him?

How could he have known he needed consent if she didn’t and if Bernie didn’t.

Sorry, I can’t accept implied consent just because it isn’t Biden doing it.

Ok, you do you.

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wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:22:32pm

re: #26 KGxvi

Seen them, and the difference, I suppose is one of consent. Posing for a picture is different that an unwanted shoulder rub and/or kiss.

Consent and context.

The problem is systemic. Even the perpetrators are not 100% responsible. But the victim is 0% responsible. If she misinterprets someone’s intent, does it matter? What does ‘intent’ count for, in the actual now?

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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:23:44pm

re: #26 KGxvi

I’ve also seen how some thing Flores is some kind of plant or that she’s ignoring Bernie’s problems.

Except she was among the people who blew the whistle on Bernie for his own inappropriate conduct and failure to properly handle the allegations against those within his campaign.

Maybe… just maybe… guys shouldn’t be running for office until we get this sorted out.

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freetoken  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:24:12pm

So, the Oliver piece on WWE is getting a bit savaged in the wrestling media. Not for being wrong in regards to things like the fallacy of “independent contractors”, but for being many years late, as in out of date.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:25:39pm
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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:27:48pm

re: #34 freetoken

Are they still independent contractors? Ayep.
Does McMahon family still reap profits from these men and women killing themselves to put on a performance? Ayep.
Does the WWE provide health benefits, disability, etc., and retirement benefits commensurate with the service they provide? Nope.

So yeah, it’s still relevant and it’s a piece that could have been done years ago too.

It’s like asking why Oliver should do a piece on restaurant workers and the appalling pay there, and asking why he didn’t do one sooner. The problem is there - and he’s addressing it now.

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gocart mozart  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:28:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:28:43pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:28:48pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:29:00pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why not David Duke? Get the best White Supremacist money can buy.

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KGxvi  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:30:16pm

re: #32 wrenchwench

Consent and context.

The problem is systemic. Even the perpetrators are not 100% responsible. But the victim is 0% responsible. If she misinterprets someone’s intent, does it matter? What does ‘intent’ count for, in the actual now?

So, in the law, for things like intentional infliction of emotional distress, there’s an objective standard (would a reasonable person in a similar situation react similarly) and a subjective standard (was this particular person’s actions reasonable given the circumstances). There’s also what’s known as a “technical battery” - for example, I bump into when we are crowded into a subway car. Technically that is tortious battery, but because there’s no injury and it’s just sort of accepted as part of modern life, it’s not something you can normally recover from.

In short, it all matters. The degree to which each element matters is a whole other discussion.

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gocart mozart  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:30:37pm
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freetoken  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:33:01pm

re: #36 lawhawk

The problem is that Oliver pulled out old clips. His report about wrestlers deaths had more to do with their actions in the 80’s and 90’s than today.

Now the industry as a whole is larger than WWE (though WWE may not want to admit that) and certainly in some small promotion there there is the possibility for some very bad practices.

Oliver should have stuck with the independent contractor thing, and how that plays into say health care, rather than pull up old stories.

So now the problem becomes one where the WWE will win a propaganda war, because they will bring out their Wellness Policy, and a bunch of doctors, etc., on how well wrestlers are being treated today.

For a performer today in the WWE (and as I noted, in other companies which are much smaller conditions may be much worse), the only real issue is one of the compensation not really covering health care, as in there not being a union (because again, not employees) with a retirement program that includes healthcare.

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gocart mozart  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:33:04pm
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Teddy's Person  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:33:17pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:34:16pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Count me among the nerds who think April Fool’s day should just go away, for good.

It’s tiresome and ugly and it wants to die.

There was a joke article in the Berlin Tageszeitung about how marriages between UK residents and Germans might be rendered invalid after Brexit. A number of mixed couples said that they found that distressing, because it is too close to being believable.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:34:44pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:36:25pm

re: #34 freetoken

So, the Oliver piece on WWE is getting a bit savaged in the wrestling media. Not for being wrong in regards to things like the fallacy of “independent contractors”, but for being many years late, as in out of date.

Within wrestling fandom, the mainstream medias lack of familiarity with the business is something of an ongoing joke.

Back in 2007 during the Chris Benoit murder/suicide every news network was finding every talking head they could to weigh in on the matter, even people who knew jack shit about pro wrestling.

One news personality (in)famously stated that one of the motives for the murder may have been that Benoit was upset over getting demoted from the Four Horseman Group. That group was part of WCW and WCW hadn’t existed for over six years at the time of the murders.

There are numerous other examples but this is one of the most notable.

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Skip Intro  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:36:41pm

re: #40 Patricia Kayden

Why not David Duke? Get the best White Supremacist money can buy.

I don’t know why they’re shying away from Duke. He’s everything they like, and he’s a huge Trump fan.

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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:36:47pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:38:11pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:38:33pm

re: #45 Teddy’s Person

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Dust in my eye or sumthin…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:39:33pm
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MsJ  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:40:39pm

re: #45 Teddy’s Person

I kinda love Dean. And Nala. So sweet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:40:46pm

The meme wars.

Now that we have reduced political discourse to a shouting match, we have ceded the field to the side that shouts the loudest.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:41:00pm

re: #50 lawhawk

They have to keep the base angry about something. It’s the only trick they have.

First get them upset that the right isn’t winning.
Then, once the right starts winning, get them upset they aren’t winning enough.
Then, once the right starts winning enough, get them upset they aren’t winning on the right things.
Then, then once the right starts winning enough and on the right things, find a new cause for them to get upset about.

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ObserverArt  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:41:01pm

re: #33 lawhawk

I’ve also seen how some thing Flores is some kind of plant or that she’s ignoring Bernie’s problems.

Except she was among the people who blew the whistle on Bernie for his own inappropriate conduct and failure to properly handle the allegations against those within his campaign.

Maybe… just maybe… guys shouldn’t be running for office until we get this sorted out.

Unless the guy is pretty damn sure he has never done anything that can be considered untoward behavior.

I hope we aren’t saying there are no men that can qualify. Yes, it is a problem with many men, but let’s not get to a point where we suspect everyone has to have their hands all over the women they meet in social situations, especially the situations where the man has a leadership role.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:43:55pm

is it infrastructure week again?

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wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:44:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:44:52pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

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bd (Emergency!)  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:46:16pm

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good thing it’s infrastructure week.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:48:24pm
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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:49:27pm

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

The tweets that comment on the collapse are predictable - Obama’s at fault, shovel ready projects…. and that it’s time for infrastructure week again.

This is Tennessee, where the state legislature was more concerned with how to police bathrooms to keep transgendered people from using the bathroom of their choice than making sure that the roads and bridges were safe and in good condition.

This is Tennessee, where they’re more interested in depriving women of their rights, than making sure that bridges don’t collapse.

This is Tennessee, where the states will skimp on infrastructure, and hope no one notices a collapse/failure here and there.

We noticed.

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wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:50:21pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

[Count me among the nerds who think April Fool’s day should just go away, for good. It’s tiresome and ugly and it wants to die.]

It has gone toooooo far.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:51:43pm

re: #63 lawhawk

This is Tennessee, where the states will skimp on infrastructure, and hope no one notices a collapse/failure here and there.

We noticed.

This is America, where people say “we should run government like a business!”

A business is interested in minimizing operating costs to maximize profits.

Maintenance of infrastructure is seen as overhead. Along with education, health care and public safety.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:51:54pm

re: #36 lawhawk

And it isn’t just the WWE - same thing is occurring with Uber/Lyft, and with FedEx Ground.

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

is it infrastructure week again?

Ask Twin Cities residents as to what happened to I-35W, which killed over a dozen people…

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Belafon  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:51:57pm

I’m pretty sure the red pill showed that, unless you’re the chosen one, Trinity can kick your butt, and you had better live with it.

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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:52:03pm

Tennessee gets an overall C from the ASCE but surprisingly enough a B for its bridges, as the state has been doing a better job than its southern peers to repair/replace obsolete bridges.

Roads get a C+ and the state doesn’t spend enough to maintain/improve roads. It’s doing better than its neighbors, but that’s not saying much.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:52:46pm

re: #66 Eric The Fruit Bat

And it isn’t just the WWE - same thing is occurring with Uber/Lyft, and with FedEx Ground.

Not to mention every multi-level marketing company in existence.

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Teddy's Person  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:54:13pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, “desperate to stay on wing-nut gravy train” isn’t a good look for anyone.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:54:27pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:54:35pm

re: #64 wrenchwench

It has gone toooooo far.

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So, you just let your squirrels run around nude do you?

Tsk, tsk!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:56:10pm

re: #69 Eclectic Cyborg

Not to mention every multi-level marketing company in existence.

Ah-yup…and you can add Amway to that horrid mess.

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wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:57:48pm

re: #72 ObserverArt

So, you just let your squirrels run around nude do you?

Tsk, tsk!

They are free to dress themselves however they wish. And I do not consider them ‘mine’.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 1, 2019 • 2:01:38pm

re: #26 KGxvi

Seen them, and the difference, I suppose is one of consent. Posing for a picture is different that an unwanted shoulder rub and/or kiss.

franken was posing for a picture
// (1/2)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 2:02:25pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 1, 2019 • 2:05:40pm

re: #74 wrenchwench

They are free to dress themselves however they wish. And I do not consider them ‘mine’.

So, when I walk outside and see the little buggers run up my big ol’ pine tree I can’t refer to them as my squirrels?

I’ll remember that when the neighbors say they are feeding and watching my squirrels.

That’s good though, really, I can use the savings. Those little undies are expensive.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 1, 2019 • 2:09:10pm

re: #69 Eclectic Cyborg

Not to mention every multi-level marketing company in existence.

No kidding. Before I moved to Chicago for a job opportunity my roommate decided to go all full-bore Christian fundamentalist (Assembly of God), and he brought over to the apartment one day an Amway down liner. I didn’t bite, but my roommate did.

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Belafon  Apr 1, 2019 • 2:10:47pm

re: #55 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The meme wars.

Now that we have reduced political discourse to a shouting match, we have ceded the field to the side that shouts the loudest.

You’ve got your “we”s doing too much work in that sentence.

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freetoken  Apr 1, 2019 • 2:11:08pm

Sigh… time to do taxes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2019 • 2:17:52pm

re: #78 Eric The Fruit Bat

No kidding. Before I moved to Chicago for a job opportunity my roommate decided to go all full-bore Christian fundamentalist (Assembly of God), and he brought over to the apartment one day an Amway down liner. I didn’t bite, but my roommate did.

A lot of people in my church have been sucked into those. I make it clear to everyone that I do NOT do those. Don’t message me about it, don’t invite me to one of your parties, don’t send me anything in the mail. DO. NOT. WANT.

Most of them respect that, the few that don’t hear about it. Very sternly.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 1, 2019 • 2:17:59pm

re: #80 freetoken

Sigh… time to do taxes.

I had no problem with my Federal taxes, and my refund happened pretty quick. The State, OTOH, decided that because I had such a large refund coming due to estimated taxes, hasn’t coughed up what I should get back….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 2:19:27pm
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freetoken  Apr 1, 2019 • 2:20:49pm

re: #82 Eric The Fruit Bat

I will owe…

But I just realized that for TY2018 the IRS forms have been redesigned. I was so used to filling in the old forms I could do them by rote… now I have to learn something new.

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Skip Intro  Apr 1, 2019 • 2:23:47pm

re: #80 freetoken

Sigh… time to do taxes.

Good luck. Mine went up 300% this year.

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jaunte  Apr 1, 2019 • 2:23:49pm

The squirrels in my neighborhood might have underpants on, but they wear them decently inside their furs.

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jaunte  Apr 1, 2019 • 2:28:29pm

“…A very expansive view of 6(e) protection could also prevent the disclosure of materials obtained in a search warrant. Ordinarily, items obtained by search warrant are not considered matters occurring before the grand jury even if a grand jury is investigating the same subject. In re Search Warrant for Second Floor Bedroom, 489 F.Supp. 207, 210 (D.R.I. 1980). However, the Fourth Circuit has stated that where a government agent used search warrants and subpoenas to obtain information indiscriminately, the official may become an “agent of the grand jury,” causing the materials to merge under the protection of 6(e). In re Grand Jury Subpoena, 920 F.2d 235, 243 (4th Cir. 1990). Barr’s letter indicates that Mueller executed 500 search warrants, likely yielding voluminous documents. If Barr were to take the aggressive Fourth Circuit approach to search warrant materials, then he could potentially try to shield from disclosure any reference to them.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 2:28:56pm
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Belafon  Apr 1, 2019 • 2:33:02pm

Far-right extremists in Britain have been accessing terrorism material published online by the Islamic State group, counter-terrorism experts have told the BBC

They say neo-Nazis and other right-wing extremists have been studying methods of attack shared by jihadists with their followers on the internet

But we should not be surprised that they do share some similarities.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2019 • 2:34:38pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh, get it together, you sods!

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jaunte  Apr 1, 2019 • 2:38:41pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 1, 2019 • 2:41:38pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So what are the options to prevent hard Brexit on April 12, other than of course Theresa falling on the sword and revoking Article 50? Looks like there is no choice that won’t infuriate at least half of the nation. And why did the pound gain value during this repeat of last week’s votes? I don’t understand financial markets and how they interpret
economic events occurring in the real world.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 1, 2019 • 2:45:19pm

re: #92 Hecuba’s daughter

So what are the options to prevent hard Brexit on April 12, other than of course Theresa falling on the sword and revoking Article 50? Looks like there is no choice that won’t infuriate at least half of the nation. And why did the pound gain value during this repeat of last week’s votes? I don’t understand financial markets and how they interpret
economic events occurring in the real world.

Has anybody noted that April 12 is Fort Sumter day?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 2:46:53pm
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Man, DangerMan  Apr 1, 2019 • 2:59:01pm

re: #80 freetoken

Sigh… time to do taxes.

story of my life….every day

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plansbandc  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:00:11pm

re: #45 Teddy’s Person

That is the sweetest thing. <3

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2020 Blue Wisconsin  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:11:13pm

So wasn’t a bit part of the Q nuttery that Mueller was actually working with Trump to expose the ebil liberals? How are they explaining away the fact that it’s clear now that Mueller’s investigation and report were clearly about…*gasp*…their hero?

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Targetpractice  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:11:17pm

re: #91 jaunte

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“LOCK THEM UP! LOCK THEM UP! LOCK…wait, they’re Republicans? Oh, well, then this is just not a serious matter.”

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jaunte  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:12:21pm

re: #98 Targetpractice

They forgot why they were chanting.

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Teukka  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:12:49pm

Wow. Some people responding to tweets of mine seem a bit off the deep end…

The tweet which started it all:

WTF is wrong with these people?

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jaunte  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:13:36pm

re: #100 Teukka

Holy Strawman!

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Belafon  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:15:35pm

re: #100 Teukka

Wow. Some people responding to tweets of mine seem a bit off the deep end…

The tweet which started it all:

WTF is wrong with these people?

He endowed us with murder?

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Targetpractice  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:17:15pm

re: #99 jaunte

They forgot why they were chanting.

Nah, they didn’t forget, they’ve always been chanting for the same reason: They’re Democrats. It was never about national security, influence peddling, classified secrets, or any of the litany of excuses they gave. It was purely partisan, which is why they’ll never accept any objective investigation of the matter.

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wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:17:39pm

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

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wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:23:17pm
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Teukka  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:25:16pm

Was I too harsh?

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jaunte  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:34:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:36:19pm
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Teddy's Person  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:36:42pm

re: #100 Teukka

WTF is wrong with these people?

Twitter, giving people a platform to show their asses since 2006.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:39:14pm
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Teukka  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:39:34pm

re: #109 Teddy’s Person

Twitter, giving people a platform to show their asses since 2006.

More like crawling on all fours, smeared in their own excrement…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:42:18pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

is it infrastructure week again?

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Seems a bit like a “National Emergency”
Don’t ya think?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:45:30pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:45:44pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson

@Green_Footballs
Count me among the nerds who think April Fool’s day should just go away, for good.

It’s tiresome and ugly and it wants to die.

I don’t know, I kind of got a kick out of the (momentarily surprising) email that I got from Yamaha Electronics this morning…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:47:41pm

This is “The Center for Medical Progress” aka David Daleiden and his brethren

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Jack Burton  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:47:59pm

re: #112 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

It’s Infrastructure WEAK.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:49:29pm
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Teukka  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:50:56pm

re: #106 Teukka

Was I too harsh?

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Teukka  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:52:08pm

re: #118 Teukka

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 1, 2019 • 3:59:08pm

Everyone needs a hobby, I guess

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:00:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:02:02pm
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MsJ  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:05:50pm

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

I got a dog in Mandan. Years ago. That’s a weird connection since it’s so small and I’m from Chicago.

I hope they’re ok. Super nice people. Still no names released.

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ObserverArt  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:13:11pm

Local news just did a little report on Trump’s border closing and then to give a small example said America would be out of avocados in three weeks and expect all kinds of issues in your store’s produce department.

Trump doesn’t care.

And I still wonder what the Republican Senators and House Reps are saying at the favorite watering hole during DC after hours. The conversations have to be fascinating.

They have no control over Trump and seemingly give it to him willingly at the same time.

It has to be real sour back home…if they ever go home. You don’t hear a lot about Republican town halls these days.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:15:15pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:16:10pm

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ay, that’s no small deal. Get well soon, Mick!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:18:54pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:21:51pm

re: #124 ObserverArt

Local news just did a little report on Trump’s border closing and then to give a small example said America would be out of avocados in three weeks and expect all kinds of issues in your store’s produce department.

Trump doesn’t care.

And I still wonder what the Republican Senators and House Reps are saying at the favorite watering hole during DC after hours. The conversations have to be fascinating.

They have no control over Trump and seemingly give it to him willingly at the same time.

It has to be real sour back home…if they ever go home. You don’t hear a lot about Republican town halls these days.

Local news here is that all 5 CBP checkpoints in the state (on the interstates) were closed, so personnel could be transferred closer to the border. That was before the weekend.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:24:08pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:24:51pm

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

Martin Shkreli has reportedly been thrown in solitary confinement following reports that he was using a contraband cell phone to run his pharma business from behind bars. www.

Wasn’t Trump adding Shkreli to the Rick Scott team to design a new health uncare plan?

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Jay C  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:25:06pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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Heh. You know the old Texas saying about what you find in the middle of the road?*

Sorry, Jim: just keep on walking…….

*“Yellow lines and dead armadillos”

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wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:25:52pm

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Martin Shkreli has reportedly been thrown in solitary confinement ]

He should be put under a bridge in El Paso. Alone. Fencing if he wants it.

Or let him share a cell with Chapo. Birds of a feather…(sorry birbs).

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:27:29pm

re: #132 wrenchwench

He should be put under a bridge in El Paso. Alone. Fencing if he wants it.

Or let him share a cell with Chapo. Birds of a feather…(sorry birbs).

Poor Chapo 😢

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:31:40pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:33:05pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:41:10pm

re: #135 teleskiguy

I hope that never happens to me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:42:18pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:44:59pm

OT I am trying out my new keyboard for my iPad. It is a little bigger than I expected but it seems to work very well.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:45:53pm

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Just imagine the Republican hellraising if Obama’s sister did one single misdeed that Jared has done. Republicans would scream for blood!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:48:15pm

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:49:47pm

I sit in awe at the amount of delusion it took to create this:

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teleskiguy  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:52:17pm

re: #136 PhillyPretzel

I hope that never happens to me.

It actually did happen to me, back in 1996, on the brand new Grouse Mountain chair at Beaver Creek. The gearbox failed catastrophically. I sat on that chair in a snowstorm for over two hours. The evac process is quite time consuming.

In February I volunteered at the ski area to be a “victim” so the director of ski patrol could brush up on his evac skillz and try their new litter. I only sat on that chair for about ten minutes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:53:38pm
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BeachDem  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:57:49pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

I sit in awe at the amount of delusion it took to create this:

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I’m still trying to process the Q comments on that Judd Legum tweet you posted earlier.

There is no way in hell I can even begin with the Q clock. These people are certifiable.

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freetoken  Apr 1, 2019 • 4:59:24pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

You’ve got to know the audience to which he is playing:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:01:11pm
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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:06:39pm
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freetoken  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:09:22pm

re: #147 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

The GOP is complicit in Trump’s attempt to turn American into a fascist nation.

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Jack Burton  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:11:56pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s getting ratioed. That said that his whole feed is weapons-grade both-sides bullshit almost in a Poe’s Law kind of way.

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teleskiguy  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:14:05pm
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Skip Intro  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:14:14pm

re: #130 Hecuba’s daughter

Wasn’t Trump adding Shkreli to the Rick Scott team to design a new health uncare plan?

He was going to head the FDA, wasn’t he?

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freetoken  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:19:52pm

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This amazing 6 bedroom 11 bath Space Chateau is a great investment opportunity for those smart investors that want to cash in on the Mars craze and stay ahead of Elon Musk! Designed to blend into the harsh Mars terrain, this 7,530 sqft house is perfect for the land grabbing space colonizing enthusiast and faux royalty alike.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:30:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:31:42pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:36:57pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:37:15pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:37:38pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:37:55pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:43:53pm

re: #156 Charles Johnson

Begs for a liberal (heh) application of spray paint.

I am in China, so someone else has to step up to the task.

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teleskiguy  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:44:17pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:45:32pm

re: #151 Skip Intro

He was going to head the FDA, wasn’t he?

I suggested that as a joke just yesterday.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:48:20pm

good grief, she is stupid

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:50:00pm
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Teukka  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:50:14pm

The gift that keeps on givin’…

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:50:49pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

She has always been stupid. That is why she responds with her usual word salad.

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plansbandc  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:56:00pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:56:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:56:06pm

re: #165 PhillyPretzel

She has always been stupid. That is why she responds with her usual word salad.

I am amused that she thinks the account was suspended.
That’s not what happened at all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:57:02pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:57:46pm

Linking just for the URL, really:

boingboing.net

Be sure and check the address bar—they lost their nerve somewhere between there and the published title:

“Small stickers on the ground trick Tesla autopilot into steering into opposing traffic lane”

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William Lewis  Apr 1, 2019 • 5:57:48pm

Sigh. Video drivers remains the bane of Linux. The stock ones are actually not bad in Ubuntu but I thought I’d try the ones on AMD’s website…

Well, at least reinstalling is a whole lot faster too!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:01:48pm

heh

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:03:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:05:09pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:05:25pm

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

It is some very powerful brain bleach.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:07:40pm

Weaponized dumbfuckery.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:09:38pm

re: #171 William Lewis

Sigh. Video drivers remains the bane of Linux. The stock ones are actually not bad in Ubuntu but I thought I’d try the ones on AMD’s website…

Well, at least reinstalling is a whole lot faster too!

Tell me about it. But I managed to get Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to work with AMD’s 17.50 drivers. Can’t tweak the graphic card like I can with Windows, but it does what I want it to do.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:09:43pm

re: #176 goddamnedfrank

Weaponized dumbfuckery.

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And you can count on her to vote for Tulsi on the Green Ticket in 2024.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:12:50pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:12:51pm

Saw a comment from Charles earlier and thinking about it brought about this quick poster-like photoshop composition just for some fun.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:16:38pm

Home from the gym and the air conditioner starts up—87 in my main room…

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teleskiguy  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:16:48pm

Wow. Posted to YouTube almost a year ago.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:17:30pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:19:18pm
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Jason Munro  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:19:21pm

re: #171 William Lewis

I gave up on AMD under Linux 15 years ago when I could not use my newly purchased card to accelerate graphics because it was _just_ PCI and not AGP (lol remember AGP!). This was really more of a Linux limitation than AMD, but still I was bummed. I have had better luck with Nvidia over the years, but hardly smooth sailing until the last few. These days my 2 (3?) year old GTX 980 can power 3 monitors at 1080p each for multi-monitor gaming with Steam under Linux (Debian unstable) surprisingly well.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:24:12pm
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William Lewis  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:27:29pm

re: #185 Jason Munro

I gave up on AMD under Linux 15 years ago when I could not use my newly purchased card to accelerate graphics because it was _just_ PCI and not AGP (lol remember AGP!). This was really more of a Linux limitation than AMD, but still I was bummed. I have had better luck with Nvidia over the years, but hardly smooth sailing until the last few. These days my 2 (3?) year old GTX 980 can power 3 monitors at 1080p each for multi-monitor gaming with Steam under Linux (Debian unstable) surprisingly well.

My new box is using the vega 11 graphics in the Ryzen 5 2400G. Seems pretty good so far. Heck of a lot better than my old laptop’s graphics. I was just being greedy and it bit me. I can push my new to me monitor at 1440x990 but haven’t installed anything too hardcore yet.

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gocart mozart  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:28:06pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:30:14pm

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I remember the great old Cleveland Plain Dealer. Sad to see the state of all of the printed media, but the digital and video world is taking over.

I’m surprised the Columbus Dispatch is still going. It is in a similar state of downsized. It was so downsized it no longer was worth it.

Local news websites and a website called Columbus Underground covers everything pretty well.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:31:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:36:53pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:41:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:41:34pm
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Jason Munro  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:44:11pm

re: #187 William Lewis

My new box is using the vega 11 graphics in the Ryzen 5 2400G. Seems pretty good so far. Heck of a lot better than my old laptop’s graphics. I was just being greedy and it bit me. I can push my new to me monitor at 1440x990 but haven’t installed anything too hardcore yet.

APUs are neat. I setup some Steam games on my old(er) work laptop for my daughter for a long road trip last year and it was better than I expected. I don’t play anything with really hardcore graphical demands, but I do love trying to get games on Linux running properly. It’s a weird hobby :). unencumberedbyfacts.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:45:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:47:37pm

RAWR!!!

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teleskiguy  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:48:59pm

re: #195 The Vicious Babushka

Humans are crazy like that. Like Dr. Grant said in ‘Jurassic Park,’ “…life finds a way.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:49:48pm

Criswell Bacon predicts that the following people are on the Whistleblower’s list:

Don Jr.
Jared
Ivanka
Gorka
Manafort
Gates
Flynn
Kellyanne
Hucky Boo Boo
Cohen
Stone
Omarosa
Miller

Now who else could be on this little list?

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:50:21pm

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

RAWR!!!

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Don’t ever get between a kitteh & its foodies! See how quickly li’l bean paws become murder mittens.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:50:22pm

re: #185 Jason Munro

I gave up on AMD under Linux 15 years ago when I could not use my newly purchased card to accelerate graphics because it was _just_ PCI and not AGP (lol remember AGP!). This was really more of a Linux limitation than AMD, but still I was bummed. I have had better luck with Nvidia over the years, but hardly smooth sailing until the last few. These days my 2 (3?) year old GTX 980 can power 3 monitors at 1080p each for multi-monitor gaming with Steam under Linux (Debian unstable) surprisingly well.

I had to give up Linux because the drivers for my printer were only commercially available for more than the cost of Windows. So I bought Windows for the free printer drivers.

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William Lewis  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:50:36pm

re: #194 Jason Munro

APUs are neat. I setup some Steam games on my old(er) work laptop for my daughter for a long road trip last year and it was better than I expected. I don’t play anything with really hardcore graphical demands, but I do love trying to get games on Linux running properly. It’s a weird hobby :). unencumberedbyfacts.com

I’m thinking about doing my reinstall of steam under WINE to see if I can get Warframe running on this beastie. That would be an utter hoot.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:51:02pm

re: #198 Joe Bacon 🌹

Criswell Bacon predicts that the following people are on the Whistleblower’s list:

Don Jr.
Jared
Ivanka
Gorka
Manafort
Gates
Flynn
Kellyanne
Hucky Boo Boo
Cohen
Stone
Omarosa
Miller

Now who else could be on this little list?

Bolton

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:52:01pm

re: #198 Joe Bacon 🌹

Criswell Bacon predicts that the following people are on the Whistleblower’s list:

Don Jr.
Jared
Ivanka
Gorka
Manafort
Gates
Flynn
Kellyanne
Hucky Boo Boo
Cohen
Stone
Omarosa
Miller

Now who else could be on this little list?

POS45

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:52:47pm

re: #202 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bolton

Oh I got a feeling that Elliot Abrams is on that list, too!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:53:02pm

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

RAWR!!!

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I feed the dog and she backs away from the bowl, looking at me like I was trying to keep her from it. “I just gave it to you. Why would I be trying to keep you from it?” Finally I go away and she hesitantly approaches her food, gets a mouthful, and then has to go in the living room to chew it. Entryway—bite—living room—chew, Entryway—bite—living room—chew. Crazy dog.

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danarchy  Apr 1, 2019 • 6:53:48pm

re: #198 Joe Bacon 🌹

Criswell Bacon predicts that the following people are on the Whistleblower’s list:

Don Jr.
Jared
Ivanka
Gorka
Manafort
Gates
Flynn
Kellyanne
Hucky Boo Boo
Cohen
Stone
Omarosa
Miller

Now who else could be on this little list?

Manafort, Stone, Don Jr. and Cohen, never had any official administration positions so don’t think they would be on the list.

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teleskiguy  Apr 1, 2019 • 7:02:50pm
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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 1, 2019 • 7:03:13pm

re: #206 danarchy

Manafort, Stone, Don Jr. and Cohen, never had any official administration positions so don’t think they would be on the list.

John Bolton is on the list.

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Teukka  Apr 1, 2019 • 7:06:42pm

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Jason Munro  Apr 1, 2019 • 7:07:04pm

re: #200 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

I had to give up Linux because the drivers for my printer were only commercially available for more than the cost of Windows. So I bought Windows for the free printer drivers.

The cost of my first printer was subsidized by the nearly immediate need of ink cartridge replacements :). Printing in Linux can be a PITA for sure. I have had good luck with an old HP officejet printer/fax/copier thing. Once my system could print to it, it was not hard to make it a print server for my wife running WIndows on her laptop.

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Belafon  Apr 1, 2019 • 7:07:46pm

re: #211 Jason Munro

The cost of my first printer was subsidized by the nearly immediate need of ink cartridge replacements :). Printing in Linux can be a PITA for sure. I have had good luck with an old HP officejet printer/fax/copier thing. Once my system could print to it, it was not hard to make it a print server for my wife running WIndows on her laptop.

I choose Brother printers because they make Linux drivers.

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Teukka  Apr 1, 2019 • 7:09:42pm

re: #212 Belafon

I choose Brother printers because they make Linux drivers.

So far, I haven’t been disappointed with Brother printers, began with an inkjet, now using a laser Ethernet printer.

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danarchy  Apr 1, 2019 • 7:10:35pm

re: #212 Belafon

I choose Brother printers because they make Linux drivers.

Brother printers also work remarkably seamlessly with the windows remote desktop easy print drivers. They are my choice most of the time as well.

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Belafon  Apr 1, 2019 • 7:10:51pm

My son was telling me about how Alex Jones used to live in Rockwall and then moved to Austin to graduate. Jones tells the story that he got involved with drug dealing cops. But that’s not true. This is:

But according to Josh, it wasn’t true. The true story, he said, was much more revealing. And it was also a big secret. Josh said, OK, I’ve heard this story a couple of times from childhood friends and family members.

Very few people in the office know it, but when Jones was a teenager, he was a bully. No one liked him, because he was a bully. There was a group of kids that felt unsafe around him, and so they came up with a plan to trick him. They invited him out to a party in a barn. It was a trap, Josh said. They beat him within an inch of his life. That’s why his family moved to Austin.

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gocart mozart  Apr 1, 2019 • 7:11:15pm

Not sure how to respond to this
Guy is a “libertarian” and a Trump supporter.

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Jason Munro  Apr 1, 2019 • 7:12:31pm

re: #201 William Lewis

I’m thinking about doing my reinstall of steam under WINE to see if I can get Warframe running on this beastie. That would be an utter hoot.

Steam has a built in wine-like-thing, I think it’s called Proton. Look up Steam Play or Steam Proton. I enabled it recently but have not a had a chance to check it out. A quick search has a promising headline that Warframe might work but the result was reddit and I don’t go to reddit :).

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Belafon  Apr 1, 2019 • 7:16:03pm

re: #216 gocart mozart

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Belafon  Apr 1, 2019 • 7:17:01pm

re: #201 William Lewis

I’m thinking about doing my reinstall of steam under WINE to see if I can get Warframe running on this beastie. That would be an utter hoot.

I’m running steam just fine by itself on Linux with my Nvidia card. Steam has a Linux installer.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2019 • 7:25:47pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 1, 2019 • 7:28:36pm

re: #218 Belafon

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We made peace with Germany because they repudiated the fucking Nazis. We never signed an armistice with the fucking Nazis. As far as the fucking Nazis are concerned, the war is still on. You see a fucking Nazi, they’re fair game.

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MsJ  Apr 1, 2019 • 7:38:29pm
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Belafon  Apr 1, 2019 • 7:52:06pm

In the bass lesson I just finished, he had us playing part of the bass line from Wilson Pickett’s “In the Midnight Hour.” E-G#-B-A-C#-E quarter-eight-eight-quarter-eight-eight. I’m still jealous of his hand size. I can just stretch my fingers between the fourth and seventh fret but I feel it down to the top of my wrist. This one seems like it’s going to be a good one to practice to learn to minimize my hand motions.

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plansbandc  Apr 1, 2019 • 7:55:50pm

It’s disgusting that anyone would think that Nazis have a valid opinion and should be treated like anyone else. Why did we fight WWII?

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 1, 2019 • 7:57:10pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2019 • 7:57:53pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 1, 2019 • 8:03:49pm

re: #226 Charles Johnson

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Look how Kentucky put Bevin in to kill Kynect and a lot of the MAGATs who voted for him said Jesus told them how to vote. And the New York Times glorified folks who lost their health insurance but continue to vote Republican.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2019 • 8:06:13pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 1, 2019 • 8:08:04pm

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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2019 • 8:11:03pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 1, 2019 • 8:12:19pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2019 • 8:16:50pm
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William Lewis  Apr 1, 2019 • 8:18:24pm

re: #217 Jason Munro

Steam has a built in wine-like-thing, I think it’s called Proton. Look up Steam Play or Steam Proton. I enabled it recently but have not a had a chance to check it out. A quick search has a promising headline that Warframe might work but the result was reddit and I don’t go to reddit :).

Looks like Proton is the deal. I’ve got Warframe downloading (23 gb! Yikes!) though I’ll probably stick to playing it on my Switch, it might be fun to have a second account on the PC too. Be interesting to see what frame rates this beast can generate in that game.

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teleskiguy  Apr 1, 2019 • 8:24:20pm

Shit. Show.

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teleskiguy  Apr 1, 2019 • 8:24:58pm
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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 1, 2019 • 8:35:25pm
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Belafon  Apr 1, 2019 • 8:40:32pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 1, 2019 • 8:40:51pm

re: #236 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

Klass misses the target. He should have said point-blank that the American media deliberately fails to do their job.

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Belafon  Apr 1, 2019 • 8:50:25pm
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Belafon  Apr 1, 2019 • 8:55:09pm

Now I am just really curious of who Flores is and how long she’s been around Democratic circles:

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 1, 2019 • 9:18:06pm

re: #239 Belafon

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vgranucci  Apr 1, 2019 • 9:40:17pm

re: #212 Belafon

I choose Brother printers because they make Linux drivers.

I don’t use Linux, but Brother printers are like the Energizer bunny…they keep going and going and going and….


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