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gocart mozart  Apr 1, 2019 • 10:32:03am
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wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2019 • 10:36:28am
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freetoken  Apr 1, 2019 • 10:38:54am

Copy from downstairs, as this will probably be big science news in a couple of weeks:

The following story is getting some coverage today, with the attendant misreporting of science:

Soon Reveal the First Photo of a Supermassive Black Hole

Astronomers might have taken the first direct picture of a black hole in the Milky Way and now, science fanatics around the world are waiting for more details on this groundbreaking image.

Direct observations of black holes haven’t been captured before, however, researchers at the European Southern Observatory (ESO) in Germany might have snapped evidence of one of these enormous bodies in space, the Daily Mail reported. On April 10, the ESO is expected to discuss the “first result from the Event Horizon Telescope” and the black hole picture announcement at a press conference that will be streamed on YouTube.

[…]

This isn’t really surprising - this is one reason why the EHT exists.

A few months ago Tony Darnell did an episode with one of the EHT scientists in which they discussed this:

The Event Horizon Telescope (EHT)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 10:40:53am
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William Lewis  Apr 1, 2019 • 10:43:11am

OT but wow, this new PC just screams. I really didn’t think it would be this much faster but between the Ryzen 5 CPU & a NVME boot SSD it’s amazing.

Now back to dissing the WWE :D

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2019 • 10:47:10am

I’m at work and don’t have time to watch the whole thing but I’ve been a wrestling fan since 1993 and an amateur wrestling historian since around 2001 and I can tell you that insanity and shenanigans in wrestling predate the WWE by generations. Not that that’s meant to excuse the actions of the company, but they aren’t the only offender. You can look at any promotion in history: AWA, Stampede Wrestling, World Class Wrestling (Von Erichs), USWA, ECW, WCW and you’ll find that all sorts of insane things happened in these companies. If you get a chance, take a look at the history of the National Wrestling Alliance, which basically controlled North American wrestling from 1948 up until the early 1980s when Vince and the WWF (now WWE) starting taking over the show. There is SO much shit that went on in the NWA it’s unreal.

Wrestling as long been a business of big egos, hyper masculinity, misogyny, sex, drugs and violence. Obviously, it’s clear things are going to happen when you throw all those things into the mix.

Also wrestlers, die young (below age 50) at a much higher rate than athletes in other sports and entertainers in other industries. To its credit, the company has taken steps to try and slow this trend but there’s only so much you can do.

Wrestling promoters in general (and Vince McMahon in particular) are known to generally be ruthless assholes who don’t really give a shit about anything else except money (and possibly women). Those few wrestlers who can make big money get tight with the boss and together with him make life generally miserable for everyone else down the pecking order. Again, this doesn’t happen all the time in every wrestling promotion, but it has been seen over and over and over in the history of the business.

Professional wrestling has always been largely unregulated and the performers deemed independent contractors. That means they are responsible for their own health insurance, dental insurance, retirement savings, etc, etc. They have no union and limited protection under labor laws.

Used to be back in the day that you got paid way less when you were injured than if you were actively wrestling. As a result wrestlers turned to painkillers and other medications to get back into the ring quickly to start making money again, often to the long term detriment of their own health (this is one cause of the high incidence of early deaths among pro wrestlers). This isn’t so much the case anymore, at least not in WWE, but it remains one of many sad and destructive legacies the business has in its closet.

It’s a dirty, fucked up business filled with dirty fucked up people along with some genuinely good, well meaning folks. Usually though, it’s the dirty fucked up people that grab the headlines. Now the WWE is powerful enough and its owners connected enough to start making a splash in politics. Linda McMahon served in the Trump administration. Then of course, there’s been the ongoing kerfuffle with the Saudi Arabia deal among other things. The amount of power and money in wrestling continues to grow.

I’ll never stop enjoying wrestling as a fan, but I realize that a lot of people have paid a terrible price as a result of their involvement in the business and that certainly makes it harder to enjoy the shows on some levels.

I do watch some of todays wrestling, but not as much current stuff as I used to. If I am in need of a fix, I’m just as likely to watch a classic Ric Flair/Ricky Steamboat or Bret Hart/Steve Austin match as I am to tune into to RAW.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 10:57:04am
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Targetpractice  Apr 1, 2019 • 10:57:22am

This administration is a counter-intelligence gold mine. 25 people who should have been denied security clearances because they fit one or more criteria that makes them vulnerable to various forms of extortion or corruption instead granted one because of intervention by Trump or one of his underlings at his urging. This is the sort of scandal that would have resulted in mass resignations if not worse under a Democrat, but is treated as SOP for a Republican.

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Citizen K  Apr 1, 2019 • 11:02:12am

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

The one thing I will give the industry credit for is that they’ve taken a lot of good steps in cleaning things up regarding drugs. You have folks still abusing steroids, and that seems like it’ll be always a given, but it does seem like things like harder drugs, alcohol abuse, etc. are being taken more seriously, and WWE doesn’t even allow blading anymore after some Hep scares among other things.

Not to mention that things seem to be a bit less….toxic even far as the wrestling community itself, with a lot more camaraderie it seems like. In general, health seems to be taken a lot more seriously by comparison., but even then, wrestling is just an absurdly rough and physically demanding job, and that comes down to just how often you’re wrestling. The schedule is brutal especially for WWE wrestlers. And the company still is….yeah.

That said, I kinda have hopes that once Vince finally steps aside, some major changes can be made, but that’s kind of an outside hope. And I know some of the upstart promotions like All Elite Wrestling are trying to do things like set up company wide insurance for its wrestlers rather than the independent contractor dodges that places like WWE does. So…we’ll see.

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freetoken  Apr 1, 2019 • 11:03:52am

Regarding Oliver and his WWE segment, all his points have been made long before, in the specialist wrestling media.

The WWE response is reported on various sites, e.g., WWE responds to HBO’s “Last Week Tonight” and invites host to WrestleMania 35

As far as social dynamics, the problem with employee vs. “independent contractor” is the most insightful into how American businesses attempt to offload responsibilities and only take on profits.

Of course, for most of us the ugliness of the McMahons found full form in the likes of Trump, with whom they’ve had a close relationship for many years.

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Alephnaught  Apr 1, 2019 • 11:07:49am

Awww, I’ve been away from the Interwebs for a bit, and missed the protesters in their undies in the public gallery of House of Commons, that were nonetheless more serious in their intent than the MPs below.

Just for a bit of context: the protesters on the ledge of the balcony are not risking their lives that much being there: there’s a wall of glass at the edge of the balcony. (You can just about see the top edge of it at the top of the picture.) Apparently, the protesters have glued themselves to it.

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Targetpractice  Apr 1, 2019 • 11:08:26am

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

We’ve an impending presidential election, Mitch. Don’t you think the voters deserve to have a say in whether or not Trump fills any potential vacancies?

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freetoken  Apr 1, 2019 • 11:09:21am

I suppose the WWE is in the spotlight not only because of Linda McMahon leaving the SBA to help with Trump’s re-election, but also because this week is a big wrestling week in NYC with WWE and a plethora of smaller companies converging on NYC for several big shows, the biggest of which is Wrestlemania.

My own take on the whole thing is this: people like to watch others fight, whether it is real or fake. UFC just concluded a major contract with ESPN that will be the final nail in the PPV coffin, it is estimated by PPV pundits. While UFC (and the small MMA companies) are “real” fights and WWE (and smaller companies) are “fake” fights, though there is leakage between the two worlds (Lesnar, Rousey, etc.), still, the idea is that viewers find entertainment in two (or more) people bludgeoning each other.

What that says about us as a species… ?

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mmmirele  Apr 1, 2019 • 11:10:36am

Japanese sumo wrestlers face similar problems as America wrestlers in the “ability to recover from injuries” and the “early deaths” departments. However, they are required to have healthcare. Everyone is required to have healthcare in Japan and you have to pay in to the state healthcare program.

That said, only the makuuchi and juryo wrestlers get paid. The rest get food and housing. It’s a tough life. The top sumo wrestler of the last 12 years, Hakuho, tore a small muscle in his upper right arm, but decided to forego surgery, because it would keep him benched. And sumo wrestling, like WWE, is year-round. The Osaka basho just ended on March 24, but the wrestlers are already on a regional tour.

Sure, you can sit out and try to recover, but the Sumo Assn. puts so many rules on wrestlers recovering from injuries-they can’t even hardly appear in public. Ozeki Tochinoshin, a huge Georgian, would be flipping his opponents out of the dohyo if he was healthy, but his leg is a mess. He’s being demoted from ozeki and to get his rank back, he has to win 10 out of 15 matches in Tokyo in May. He’s not in good shape and it’s not likely to happen.

*sigh* I love watching sumo, though.

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freetoken  Apr 1, 2019 • 11:12:18am

I remember when I was small and at my grandmother’s place, watching the local wrestling promotion (this was in b&w back in the old NWA days), when my grandmother noticed what was on TV she seemed rather troubled that people would do that to each other. I don’t know if she thought it was real or not, or if she just didn’t like violence on TV.

Still, though she had many (many) problems, as I get older I can sort of see her point.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 1, 2019 • 11:19:34am

re: #11 Alephnaught

Awww, I’ve been away from the Interwebs for a bit, and missed the protesters in their undies in the public gallery of House of Commons, that were nonetheless more serious in their intent than the MPs below.

[Embedded content]

Just for a bit of context: the protesters are not risking their lives that much being there: there’s a wall of glass at the edge of the balcony. (You can just about see the top edge of it at the top of the picture.) Apparently, the protesters have glued themselves to it.

YIKES!! This was supposed to be a joke!

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freetoken  Apr 1, 2019 • 11:20:53am

I think many may miss an important point: the problem of WWE and its “independent wrestlers” is emblematic of how the American business community treats people.

Besides companies calling their in-reality-employees “independent contractors”, companies often make employees part-time just to avoid implications of full-time employment. And then there is the problem of maternity/paternity leave. And sick leave in general.

The foundational problem is that the rich owners of companies want the benefits of people working for them but don’t want the responsibilities.

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Alephnaught  Apr 1, 2019 • 11:22:17am

I’m pretty sure this will be NSFW for some Lizards, but I think this is a really good cause.

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EDIT: Fixed for correct Tweet.

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Citizen K  Apr 1, 2019 • 11:23:10am

re: #17 freetoken

I think many may miss an important point: the problem of WWE and its “independent wrestlers” is emblematic of how the American business community treats people.

Besides companies calling their in-reality-employees “independent contractors”, companies often make employees part-time just to avoid implications of full-time employment. And then there is the problem of maternity/paternity leave. And sick leave in general.

The foundational problem is that the rich owners of companies want the benefits of people working for them but don’t want the responsibilities.

I have a friend who works in the game industry who also happens to be a wrestling fan too, and he basically said that the deals they tend to get are almost identical to ‘independent contractor’ deals wrestlers end up getting. This was especially worth noting after the big glurge of layoffs in the wake of Telltale’s collapse and Blizzard shedding jobs despite record profits and such.

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Alephnaught  Apr 1, 2019 • 11:24:55am

re: #16 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

YIKES!! This was supposed to be a joke!

Nope, this happened after midday, UK time. You know the rules…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2019 • 11:28:30am

In a way, the enjoyment of wrestling and MMA is no different than enjoying James Bond blowing up bad guys, Tony Jaa ninja kicking henchmen or Iron Man and Captain America destroying super villains.

We use them as healthy ways to deal with the anger and frustrations all of us encounter in our lives. Instead of going out to beat someone up and putting myself at risk, I can instead watch Stone Cold Steve Austin stomping someone dry, or Georges St. Pierre punch someones face in. Same concept as me firing up my Call of Duty game and releasing some tension by pumping virtual bullets into virtual people vs. deciding to go on a real life shooting spree.

This is not new. In ancient roman times, the Gladiators fought for the entertainment of the masses and those fights were TO THE DEATH. There’s a certain enjoyment that often comes from watching two people fight when you are safely out of range of the action.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 1, 2019 • 11:30:30am

Spring Cleaning Update:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2019 • 11:33:02am

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

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Targetpractice  Apr 1, 2019 • 11:44:10am

It always amazes me how I can come into LGF and the topic can range from “deep philosophical discussion about the ramifications of some new scientific discovery” to “the merits of ‘professional’ wrestling.”

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freetoken  Apr 1, 2019 • 11:46:48am

Looks like some Google employees don’t like that Google went pandering to the atavistic Heritage Foundation:

Hundreds of Google employees have signed a petition calling for the removal of a member of Google’s new AI ethics board over her comments on immigrants and trans people

[…]

According to Googlers Against Transphobia, the person responsible for appointing [Heritage Foundation’s] James to the ethics board said her inclusion was meant to help foster “diversity of thought.”

[…]

Controversy followed almost immediately after the Heritage Foundation president was named to the eight-person council, with some speculating that her addition was Google’s attempt to appease conservative lawmakers who have accused the tech giant of anti-conservative bias in the past.

I’m betting that James’ inclusion had nothing to do with “diversity of thought” and everything to do with the religious right in control of the Senate and Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 11:50:03am
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Targetpractice  Apr 1, 2019 • 11:50:49am

re: #25 freetoken

Looks like some Google employees don’t like that Google went pandering to the atavistic Heritage Foundation:

Hundreds of Google employees have signed a petition calling for the removal of a member of Google’s new AI ethics board over her comments on immigrants and trans people

I’m betting that James’ inclusion had nothing to do with “diversity of thought” and everything to do with the religious right in control of the Senate and Trump.

“Diversity of thought” is becoming as much a Orwellian turn of phrase as “religious freedom” and “school choice.” A means not of encouraging actual diversity but instead forcing others to accept the presence of the far-right in places where it would otherwise be unwelcome.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2019 • 11:52:14am

re: #24 Targetpractice

It always amazes me how I can come into LGF and the topic can range from “deep philosophical discussion about the ramifications of some new scientific discovery” to “the merits of ‘professional’ wrestling.”

We’re flexible that way.

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freetoken  Apr 1, 2019 • 11:54:21am

Too bad the United States decided to no longer lead the world in the fight for justice and equality.

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Targetpractice  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:00:14pm

re: #30 freetoken

Too bad the United States decided to no longer lead the world in the fight for justice and equality.

Authoritarian regimes tend not to give much of a shit for human rights, because it only restricts their own acts while calling attention to such.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:03:53pm

Just posted a piece on how the various internet platforms and disingenuous right-wingers like Ben Shapiro & Milo move disaffected white boys down the pathway to full-on fascism

There is an increasingly well-trodden pathway that leads from angry gamer to mass murdering gunman

There are all the usual names on this research program that reveals the Downward Spiral.

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wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:03:58pm

re: #28 Eclectic Cyborg

We’re flexible that way.

We have diversity of thought. But we stay within certain limits. We lack tolerance for ill-directed intolerance.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:06:35pm
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:09:21pm

(Shameless plug-ola alert) Here’s the link to the page.

The point that just keeps jumping out at me is how much of the memes and attitudes that make up the true obnoxiousness of the alt-right come out of the world of online gaming.

I grew up playing and loving video games in the arcades of the 80s. It was where we hung out, cracked jokes, competed against each other, took turns trying to beat the game and get to the next level.

When did that turn into this dark place where angry young whiteboys send SWAT teams to each other’s houses?

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wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:10:48pm

re: #32 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Just posted a piece on how the various internet platforms and disingenuous right-wingers like Ben Shapiro & Milo move disaffected white boys down the pathway to full-on fascism

[Embedded content]

There are all the usual names on this research program that reveals the Downward Spiral.

It is not immodest to include a link when you tell us about a Page you just published. It can be helpful.

Never mind.

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freetoken  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:12:11pm
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Man, DangerMan  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:13:51pm

re: #17 freetoken

I think many may miss an important point: the problem of WWE and its “independent wrestlers” is emblematic of how the American business community treats people.

Besides companies calling their in-reality-employees “independent contractors”, companies often make employees part-time just to avoid implications of full-time employment. And then there is the problem of maternity/paternity leave. And sick leave in general.

The foundational problem is that the rich owners of companies want the benefits of people working for them but don’t want the responsibilities.

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Targetpractice  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:13:57pm

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

The 3/5th compromise, 21st century edition. You can work here, pay taxes, do all the the things that are expected of you, and still not be counted for the purposes of apportioning representation simply so that the shrinking white majority can hold onto power for another decade.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:15:24pm
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freetoken  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:18:15pm

All this census derpitude was ignited by the chief dolt:

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Targetpractice  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:18:32pm

re: #40 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

[Embedded content]

Because remember, folks, things were much better when you could be simply denied health insurance coverage for having a “pre-existing condition.”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:19:52pm

re: #37 freetoken

It was to determine how many people were living here LEGALLY!

Last time I checked, there are many people legally living in this country who are not citizens.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:20:09pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:20:52pm

Trump thinks he can “close” the border with Mexico the same way the Wal-Mart CEO can close underperforming store locations.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:22:57pm

re: #42 Targetpractice

Because remember, folks, things were much better when you could be simply denied health insurance coverage for having a “pre-existing condition.”

or worse

pay your premiums for years, then when you had a large claim have it denied because you didnt disclose an ‘acne treatment’ 30 years ago (or something equally similar and innocuous) so claiming your application was invalid or fraudulent

- and not receive a refund of all those premiums

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Targetpractice  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:24:04pm

re: #45 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump thinks he can “close” the border with Mexico the same way the Wal-Mart CEO can close underperforming store locations.

It’s a bluff, and what’s worse is it’s obvious to everyone that it’s a bluff.

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freetoken  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:24:32pm

re: #45 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump thinks he can “close” the border with Mexico the same way the Wal-Mart CEO can close underperforming store locations.

These days, more like JC Penney closing stores.

JCPenney closing 27 stores, including 1 in Michigan

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MsJ  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:25:03pm

re: #44 Patricia Kayden

That is my dog, to a T, when he spies a bowl. He uses his eyes to point at it.

” A bowl! It’s a BOWL! Do you not see there is a BOWL there? BOWLY BOWLY BOWLY! DAD…IT’S A BOWL!”

The Bowl is a standing joke between us.

Dogs are the best. We do not deserve them.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:25:38pm

re: #43 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Last time I checked, there are many people legally living in this country who are not citizens.

the census is a persons count, not a citizens count

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:26:28pm

re: #50 Man, DangerMan

the census is a persons count, not a citizens count

Exactly.

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Targetpractice  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:26:41pm

re: #46 Man, DangerMan

or worse

pay your premiums for years, then when you had a large claim have it denied because you didnt disclose an ‘acne treatment’ 30 years ago (or something equally similar and innocuous) so claiming your application was invalid or fraudulent

- and not receive a refund of all those premiums

No, worse is when you pay those premiums for years, then have a major medical incident only to be told that the claim won’t be covered because a totally routine procedure is not covered by the policy you’re paying for. So not only will you be responsible for part or the entirety of the bill, but your premiums will be going up if not your policy canceled outright due to projected future costs.

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MsJ  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:33:16pm
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:47:59pm

re: #36 wrenchwench

It is not immodest to include a link when you tell us about a Page you just published. It can be helpful.

Never mind.

Hee! Managed to post that link one myself in the follow-up post and beatcha by *just* a few seconds.

But seriously: thanks for the reminder. I spent a bunch of time crafting this one today, and sometimes my brain just wants to get a post out and off my screen and I forget. I also have a professional background where it was drummed into my head that self-promotion was unseemly at best, a firing offense at worst.

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wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:56:04pm

re: #54 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Hee! Managed to post that link one myself in the follow-up post and beatcha by *just* a few seconds.

But seriously: thanks for the reminder. I spent a bunch of time crafting this one today, and sometimes my brain just wants to get a post out and off my screen and I forget. I also have a professional background where it was drummed into my head that self-promotion was unseemly at best, a firing offense at worst.

You are promoting your work product, not yourself. (You made it in your head, but it’s outside you now, and will stand or fall on its own. Oh, look. It jumped right up!)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2019 • 12:56:28pm

re: #43 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Last time I checked, there are many people legally living in this country who are not citizens.

-waves-

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 1, 2019 • 1:56:02pm

re: #52 Targetpractice

No, worse is when you pay those premiums for years, then have a major medical incident only to be told that the claim won’t be covered because a totally routine procedure is not covered by the policy you’re paying for. So not only will you be responsible for part or the entirety of the bill, but your premiums will be going up if not your policy canceled outright due to projected future costs.

that too.

any excuse not to pay claims


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