Some More News: A Timeline of Perfectly Normal Events and Behavior, No Need to Look Into This Any Further [VIDEO]

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 2, 2019 • 11:35:26am

CL’ed

I have to say this again because it bears repeating, over and over.

I used to be “pro-life” aka “anti-choice” but with the qualifier “except in cases of rape or threat to the mother’s life.” I realize now there are some anti-choicers who are so extreme they would not even allow those exceptions.

I came to realize that those “exceptions” are worthless except as a means to:
1. Shame rape victims
2. Actually CAUSE a woman to die.

Ireland’s stringent “pro-life” laws also include an “exception for the life of the mother” but in the case of Savita Halappanavar they took too long to decide if her case was “life-threatening” enough to save her life, and she died while they were still pondering.

Getting a legal permission to proceed with an abortion “to save a woman’s life” can actually kill her, because preeclampsia or sepsis (which killed Savita) can deteriorate in hours, while the legal system can drag on for days.

The only way to be truly “pro-life” protect rape victims and save women’s lives is to allow all treatment of pregnant patients (up to and including termination of pregnancy) decided by THE PATIENT & THE DOCTOR.

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freetoken  Apr 2, 2019 • 11:41:37am

What we are seeing today in Ohio and Texas are just more manifestations of the underlying problem in this country, of a significant fraction of the electorate working out their existential crises in the public arena.

Fundamentalist Christians are not going away quietly. They will continue to try and force a theocracy and will not stop.

I find it maddening that the Democratic party public figures are so afraid to tackle this head on. Even when Trump is openly courting fundamentalists to be tools for his fascistic visions, rare is it for a Democrat to connect the two problems (that of religious fundamentalism, and of Trump’s atavism.)

This is problematic because pretending there isn’t a problem will not make the problem go away, especially in this case where the atavists flourish when there is ignorance.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 2, 2019 • 11:43:42am
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Alephnaught  Apr 2, 2019 • 11:45:27am

So, after a marathon Cabinet meeting, mainly on Brexit, UK PM Theresa May has announced that she wishes to further extend the Article 50 deadline to 22 May ie the day before EU elections. A longer delay would require the UK to take part in the EU elections for a chance of the EU27 to accept it.

Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon smells a rat…

EDIT: She also retreated this:

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Teukka  Apr 2, 2019 • 11:45:30am

Some music I’m listening to atm:

Queen - ‘Who Wants To Live Forever’

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 11:47:57am

re: #4 Alephnaught

Nicola is verra correct

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ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2019 • 11:49:38am

VB,

While you considered yourself pro-life, did you think you had the right to see that other women could not get an abortion?

And if you did, what was the thinking that gave you that right to stop others?

Not trying to start anything, I just want to understand why people can’t allow pro-choice and since you’re admitting you were pro-life it might give me some more understanding of the stance that doesn’t allow others their own personal choice.

Also, was it based on religious teachings, or something else?

You don’t have to answer or answer what you want.

I have always seen it like anything. If your religion teaches no abortion and you are strict to that teaching, then it would be a “sin” to have it done.

But if you stop others, are you saying they are “sinning” and do not most religions say that is God’s territory to make those judgments.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2019 • 11:50:20am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

He really thinks he can just seal off a 1900 mile border just like that?

Good fucking luck,

Asshole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 11:53:15am
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Jay C  Apr 2, 2019 • 11:53:52am

re: #4 Alephnaught

Gee, you don’t need a sensitive nose to smell the rotten rat lurking in this latest plan: to me, it’s obvious: PM May wants to put off the “hard” Brexit date ‘til whenever, then make it - again - a case of “my plan or no plan”. And damn the consequences…

Of course, the Government and Parliament could also come up with an acceptable compromise in the interim…. but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

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jaunte  Apr 2, 2019 • 11:53:55am
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jaunte  Apr 2, 2019 • 11:55:24am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 11:55:51am
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jaunte  Apr 2, 2019 • 11:56:41am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 11:58:02am

JFC

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:01:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:02:27pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Targetpractice  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:02:46pm

re: #4 Alephnaught

So, after a marathon Cabinet meeting, mainly on Brexit, UK PM Theresa May has announced that she wishes to further extend the Article 50 deadline to 22 May ie the day before EU elections. A longer delay would require the UK to take part in the EU elections for a chance of the EU27 to accept it.

Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon smells a rat…

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While I get that most of the EU doesn’t want the UK to just drop into the abyss, the entire reason for an extension past last Friday was that May promised shit was going to change, that she was going to make something happen by Apr 12th to get things rolling. Nothing has changed, either in her position or Parliament’s, so there is no good reason to extend this farce any farther.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:02:48pm

re: #7 ObserverArt

VB,

While you considered yourself pro-life, did you think you had the right to see that other women could not get an abortion?

And if you did, what was the thinking that gave you that right to stop others?

Not trying to start anything, I just want to understand why people can’t allow pro-choice and since you’re admitting you were pro-life it might give me some more understanding of the stance that doesn’t allow others their own personal choice.

Also, was it based on religious teachings, or something else?

You don’t have to answer or answer what you want.

I have always seen it like anything. If your religion teaches no abortion and you are strict to that teaching, then it would be a “sin” to have it done.

But if you stop others, are you saying they are “sinning” and do not most religions say that is God’s territory to make those judgments.

I was “pro-life” for myself only. I never thought that I had the right to dictate to any other woman, including my own daughters, how they should manage their own pregnancies.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:03:15pm
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KGxvi  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:03:31pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

His grandfather was born in Germany.

His mother was born in Scotland (I believe?), which at the time would have been thought of by American “whites” (different definition at the time) as a shithole country.

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KGxvi  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:04:38pm

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Maybe he meant the oranges of the Mueller Report vs the apples of the Starr Report?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:06:07pm

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

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epilogue:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:07:50pm
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Alephnaught  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:08:27pm

re: #10 Jay C

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Gee, you don’t need a sensitive nose to smell the rotten rat lurking in this latest plan: to me, it’s obvious: PM May wants to put off the “hard” Brexit date ‘til whenever, then make it - again - a case of “my plan or no plan”. And damn the consequences…

Of course, the Government and Parliament could also come up with an acceptable compromise in the interim…. but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

Even worse than that: it’s about the potential of blocking off a longer extension, and therefore any other possibilities. You can see why Scotland’s First Minister, amongst others, would have a problem with that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:09:59pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:11:48pm

Now, let’s do the same for the beagles

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:12:37pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Now, let’s do the same for the beagles

and the rhesus monkeys

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:15:52pm

just a suggestion, perhaps…

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Belafon  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:16:38pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think Spielberg needs to see my TV:

The letter came in response to reports that Steven Spielberg, an Academy board member, was planning to push for rules changes to Oscars eligibility, restricting movies that debut on Netflix and other streaming services around the same time that they show in theaters. Netflix made a big splash at the Oscars this year, as the movie “Roma” won best director, best foreign language film and best cinematography.

…

Spielberg’s concerns over the eligibility of movies on streaming platforms have triggered intense debate in the industry. Netflix responded on Twitter early last month with the statement, “We love cinema. Here are some things we also love. Access for people who can’t always afford, or live in towns without, theaters. Letting everyone, everywhere enjoy releases at the same time. Giving filmmakers more ways to share art. These things are not mutually exclusive.”

Spielberg told ITV News last year that Netflix and other streaming platforms have boosted the quality of television, but “once you commit to a television format, you’re a TV movie. … If it’s a good show—deserve an Emmy, but not an Oscar.”

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gocart mozart  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:17:07pm

New filing
civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov

SECOND SUPPLEMENTAL MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF MOTION FOR SANCTIONS
For more than five years, Alex Jones and his companies profited from broadcasting devastating lies about the plaintiffs in this case. Jones and his Infowars “contributors” told an audience of millions that the Sandy Hook shooting was “a synthetic completely fake with actors,” a “hologram,” an “illusion” and “the fakest thing since the three-dollar bill,” “staged” in order to take away their volatile audience’s guns, and that the Sandy Hook families were “paid …totally disingenuous” “crisis actors” who faked their loved ones’ deaths. Jones urged the audience to “investigate.”1 This was not journalism. It was marketing; Jones used these lies to sell his Infowars-brand products for profit.2 The plaintiffs in these consolidated actions brought suit to hold Jones and his companies accountable for their actions. They ask that a jury hear the evidence of what Jones and his companies did, and why, and then decide the case. In response, the Jones defendants have stalled and stonewalled. Plainly their goal is to conceal their actions and avoid a full hearing by any means possible. They filed an Anti-SLAPP Motion that froze discovery. Although Connecticut’s Anti-SLAPP statute provides for limited discovery on a showing of good cause, they insisted that no discovery could be permitted here. When that failed, they stonewalled again by withholding all discovery even though thousands of documents had already been produced in Texas and were responsive in this case. To justify their stonewalling, they fired their original counsel and made the astonishing claim that for twelve days following this Court’s March 7 warning concerning the consequences of noncompliance, Attorney Barnes misled them to believe that compliance had in fact been made. What seems far more likely - especially since Barnes continues to advise Jones concerning the defense of these cases and the Texas cases - is that Attorney Barnes did not attempt to appear here so that his encouragement of noncompliance could be done without risk of sanction by this Court.

The Court has given the Jones defendants chance after chance to comply with its discovery orders. Each time, the Jones defendants respond with delay, evasiveness, and outright dishonesty. The only way to ensure full and fair compliance is to open discovery.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:19:19pm

Wait, Trump is appointing crooked judges left and right, why the fuck does he want to get rid of them now?

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KGxvi  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:19:38pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

A completely unrelated aside, but a mark of how much society has changed… there’s no way, even 10-15 years ago that a US Senator would publish a picture with someone with such visible tattoos as the woman in the middle of the picture. Now it’s not even an afterthought.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:21:17pm

OK, I’ve got a good sized slab of a top sirloin that MrBWS did in the smoker on Sunday.
Surprisingly, it’s a wee bit on the tough side, so I’m figuring that some thin slices across the grain with a gravy made from the smoker pan drippings.
But there needs to be more.

In the fridge I have fresh green beans and broccoli. Sweet corn is in the freezer.
Got a variety of noodles and pastas.

oh, and homemade horseradish sauce.

Decisions, decisions…

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Teukka  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:21:23pm

re: #31 gocart mozart

New filing
civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov
NO. X06-UWY-CV-18-6046436S : SUPERIOR COURT
ERICA LAFFERTY, ET AL. : COMPLEX LITIGATION DOCKET
V. : AT WATERBURY
ALEX EMRIC JONES, ET AL. : APRIL 2, 2019
SECOND SUPPLEMENTAL MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF
MOTION FOR SANCTIONS
For more than five years, Alex Jones and his companies profited from broadcasting devastating lies about the plaintiffs in this case. Jones and his Infowars “contributors” told an audience of millions that the Sandy Hook shooting was “a synthetic completely fake with
actors,” a “hologram,” an “illusion” and “the fakest thing since the three-dollar bill,” “staged” in order to take away their volatile audience’s guns, and that the Sandy Hook families were “paid …totally disingenuous” “crisis actors” who faked their loved ones’ deaths. Jones urged the
audience to “investigate.”1 This was not journalism. It was marketing; Jones used these lies to sell his Infowars-brand products for profit.2 The plaintiffs in these consolidated actions brought suit to hold Jones and his companies accountable for their actions. They ask that a jury hear the evidence of what Jones and his companies did, and why, and then decide the case. In response, the Jones defendants have stalled and stonewalled. Plainly their goal is to conceal their actions and avoid a full hearing by any means possible. They filed an Anti-SLAPP
Motion that froze discovery. Although Connecticut’s Anti-SLAPP statute provides for limited discovery on a showing of good cause, they insisted that no discovery could be permitted here. When that failed, they stonewalled again by withholding all discovery even though thousands of documents had already been produced in Texas and were responsive in this case. To justify their stonewalling, they fired their original counsel and made the astonishing claim that for twelve days following this Court’s March 7 warning concerning the consequences of noncompliance, Attorney Barnes misled them to believe that compliance had in fact been made. What seems far
more likely - especially since Barnes continues to advise Jones concerning the defense of these cases and the Texas cases - is that Attorney Barnes did not attempt to appear here so that his
encouragement of noncompliance could be done without risk of sanction by this Court.
The Court has given the Jones defendants chance after chance to comply with its discovery orders. Each time, the Jones defendants respond with delay, evasiveness, and outright dishonesty. The only way to ensure full and fair compliance is to open discovery.

I may be too cynical, but how long is the appeals process gonna take?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:22:21pm

re: #30 Belafon

I think Spielberg needs to see my TV:

Spielberg needs to just take a fucking seat

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BlueSpotinAL  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:22:48pm

The orange of the Mueller investigation is Trump.

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Teddy's Person  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:23:25pm

re: #32 Eclectic Cyborg

Wait, Trump is appointing crooked judges left and right, why the fuck does he want to get rid of them now?

They’re in the way of his awesome deal making. If it weren’t for that pesky Judiciary Branch, he and Congress could pound out a deal in 45 mintues.

Edit: Here’s the quote

Trump argued that the U.S. immigration system “is absolutely maxed out.”

“And what we have to do is Congress has to meet quickly and make a deal,” the president insisted. “I could do it in 45 minutes. We need to get rid of chain migration, we need to get rid of catch and release and visa lottery and we have to do something about asylum and to be honest with you, I have to get rid of judges.”

Trump did not explain how it intends to “get rid of judges.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:24:02pm

re: #32 Eclectic Cyborg

Wait, Trump is appointing crooked judges left and right, why the fuck does he want to get rid of them now?

I was wondering if he meant the immigration judges

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BeachDem  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:25:09pm

re: #24

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Backwoods_Sleuth

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KGxvi  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:29:40pm

re: #38 Teddy’s Person

They’re in the way of his awesome deal making. If it weren’t for that pesky Judiciary Branch, he and Congress could pound out a deal in 45 mintues.

Edit: Here’s the quote

Trump argued that the U.S. immigration system “is absolutely maxed out.”

“And what we have to do is Congress has to meet quickly and make a deal,” the president insisted. “I could do it in 45 minutes. We need to get rid of chain migration, we need to get rid of catch and release and visa lottery and we have to do something about asylum and to be honest with you, I have to get rid of judges.”

Trump did not explain how it intends to “get rid of judges.”

He likely means immigration judges, who are administrative law judges and not what most people think of when they say “judges”.

As for everything else, he’s basically talking about ending immigration as we know it in the United States. And doing it in 45 minutes is a joke.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:29:45pm

re: #40 BeachDem

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BeachDem  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:32:07pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:32:28pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was wondering if he meant the immigration judges

I’m assuming so. No asylum hearings; you just get deported.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:33:00pm

Check out @TopherSpiro’s Tweet:

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Teddy's Person  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:34:16pm

re: #41 KGxvi

He likely means immigration judges, who are administrative law judges and not what most people think of when they say “judges”.

As for everything else, he’s basically talking about ending immigration as we know it in the United States. And doing it in 45 minutes is a joke.

When he said judges, I thought of the cases filed against his immigration policies - like the Muslim ban.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:35:07pm

from downstairs and that texas/’religious protection’ bill:

re: #209 Eclectic Cyborg

So under this Texas bill, if a guy at a restaurant refused to seat customers because they are look Gay, that would be perfectly legal?

Isn’t this like Jim Crow for non straight people?

upthread there was the example of a lawyer ‘refusing to serve” an interfaith couple

- does it depend on the kind of case? or just no interfaith couples at all?

- and, seriously since they used the word ‘serve’ does that mean this restaurant, like that lawyer, can refuse to seat interfaith couples?

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Belafon  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:35:20pm

re: #44 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I’m assuming so. No asylum hearings; you just get deported.

I’m pretty sure it will involve a skin-color check.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:36:24pm

re: #43 BeachDem

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:38:10pm

re: #44 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I’m assuming so. No asylum hearings; you just get deported.

well yanno those immigration court judges are just so overloaded and takes forever to get those illeagles deported…

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gocart mozart  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:38:54pm

re: #35 Teukka
They are not on appeal. They arguing about motions. Jone’s Anti-SLAPP motion and plaintiff’s motion for sanctions
VI. Relief Requested
The Jones defendants’ Anti-SLAPP Motion should be precluded. In the alternative, insofar as the Jones defendants’ have exhibited a pattern of withholding documents and lying under oath, full discovery is necessary before any Anti-SLAPP hearing is held. Accordingly, pursuant to § 52-196a, the Court should find that hearing is practicable only after full discovery is complete, and lift the discovery stay.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:39:12pm

re: #45 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Check out @TopherSpiro’s Tweet:

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yeppers.
Problem is that a lot of us will die a lot sooner than the GOP chosen ones.

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MsJ  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:42:20pm
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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:43:59pm

re: #12 jaunte

Those same judges are the ones he’s intent on putting on the federal bench to deliver him the regressive and reactionary rulings that support torture, his racist and bigoted policies, and his xenophobic white nationalist/supremacist agenda.

Fuck that.

Every Democrats better listen and include Trump’s statements in ads from now until election day (forevermore) because this is the GOP. He speaks for the GOP.

This is the connection. The GOP isn’t questioning Trump (openly or in private). They are part and parcel with this sociopath. And they need to be treated accordingly.

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ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:45:44pm

re: #19 The Vicious Babushka

I was “pro-life” for myself only. I never thought that I had the right to dictate to any other woman, including my own daughters, how they should manage their own pregnancies.

Sorry, I misunderstood. When you said you were pro-life and anti-choice I got the impression that was your political stance and that you would vote that way.

Those are political terms in my opinion and I took them politically.

You are right, let it be up to the individual.

Those that can’t let the individual choose are making religious and moral judgment of others. I think that is against the religions they practice. But they do have to be nosy busy-bodies and in other people lives.

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:46:29pm
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freetoken  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:47:50pm

re: #56 lawhawk

Besides his ill manners, Trump is increasingly non-functional. He really is slipping and his language is showing it.

He probably was thinking of his grandfather, not father. But his inability to catch that mistake is a sign of dementia.

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freetoken  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:50:36pm

How desperate must top Republicans be, to keep propping up Trump?

It’s like Reagan all over again, as he was increasingly affected by Alzheimer’s. But worse, because Trump is more ugly than Reagan.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:51:45pm
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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:52:45pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:53:04pm

re: #57 freetoken

Besides his ill manners, Trump is increasingly non-functional. He really is slipping and his language is showing it.

He probably was thinking of his grandfather, not father. But his inability to catch that mistake is a sign of dementia.

Let’s give him a break on that. People err in speaking all the time; they often don’t even realize that they made a misstatement while they rush on. Think of Obama’s “57 states”. This is trivial and probably not indicative of anything major.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:53:27pm

Form a line!

Facebook Post

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:54:22pm

re: #56 lawhawk

Trump is a congenital liar and sociopath. He lies about everything, including the stuff easily checked.

The small lies cover for bigger ones.

i know this is all true and always has been his M.O.

im wondering more and more if a lot of the recent stuff is not so much his natural lying as maybe the cheese is in fact slipping off the cracker.

call it dementia, alzheimers, whatever.
- these are not irrelevant slips of the tongue (oranges for origins)
- or devious fabrications (my father was born in germany)

some of this stuff seems…disconnected and disjointed
and more the fantasy talk of a not-completely-functioning brain, than anything Machiavellian

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ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:54:58pm

re: #37 BlueSpotinAL

The orange of the Mueller investigation is Trump.

And Trump is Orange!

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freetoken  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:55:16pm

re: #61 Hecuba’s daughter

Everyone misspeaks.

But if one is thinking, then we notice we made mistakes.

That Trump refuses to acknowledges he makes mistakes is not only a sign of his arrogance. I am saying that at times he doesn’t realize he really does make mistakes.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:55:32pm

re: #57 freetoken

Besides his ill manners, Trump is increasingly non-functional. He really is slipping and his language is showing it.

He probably was thinking of his grandfather, not father. But his inability to catch that mistake is a sign of dementia.

well you beat me by five minutes

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:56:43pm

re: #60 lawhawk

Trump talking out of both sides of his mouth on closing the border. First he says if he doesn’t get a deal from Congress “the border’s going to be closed 100%…” then moments later adds “or we’re going to close large sections of the border. Maybe not all of it.”

if he could close the border 100% he wouldnt need a wall

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:57:28pm

re: #61 Hecuba’s daughter

Let’s give him a break on that. People err in speaking all the time; they often don’t even realize that they made a misstatement while they rush on. Think of Obama’s “57 states”. This is trivial and probably not indicative of anything major.

obama did it once or twice
trump does it every day

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KGxvi  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:58:01pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

Is this the part where liberals/progressives start using the Franklin quote that conservatives were so fond of for years…

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety

Or is that over?

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freetoken  Apr 2, 2019 • 12:58:05pm

Let’s look at just the latest:

1) father from Germany;
2) “oranges”;
3) PR receiving $91B.

You can say the last was an intentional lie to stir up his Nebraska nazi supporters… but it is really possible that he believes it.

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freetoken  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:00:26pm

re: #68 Man, DangerMan

obama did it once or twice
trump does it every day

Multiple times a day.

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:03:31pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:05:14pm

re: #68 Man, DangerMan

obama did it once or twice
trump does it every day hour

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:06:39pm

re: #61 Hecuba’s daughter

Let’s give him a break on that. People err in speaking all the time; they often don’t even realize that they made a misstatement while they rush on. Think of Obama’s “57 states”. This is trivial and probably not indicative of anything major.

No.
This is NOT trivial.
This is not the first time he has said this.
The man is delusional and I will give him no benefit of the doubt on this and other supposedly “errs in speaking”.

And FFS, this in no way compares to Obama’s 57 states. At least HE admitted the error. This orange menace in the WH never admits he is wrong EVER.

75
Belafon  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:07:17pm

re: #72 lawhawk

She didn’t pay the membership fee or she would have gotten right in.

76
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:11:17pm

At this point, I will give Trump NO BREAKS ON ANY DAMN THING.

NOT. A. SINGLE. ONE.

JFC. I can’t believe that even needs to be said anymore.

77
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:12:39pm

Asking for a friend…..

78
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:17:39pm

re: #67 Man, DangerMan

if he could close the border 100% he wouldnt need a wall

but then he wouldn’t be able to have that little plaque tacked onto a flimsy wood fence post.
The plaque that has HIS NAME AS THE BIGGEST OF ALL!

jeebus, he is so pathetically needy.

That border plaque looks suspiciously like the Jerusalem embassy plaque…just a wee bit smaller.
And just as official.

79
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:22:02pm

re: #77 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Asking for a friend…..

[Embedded content]

I do not know for certain, but pretty sure that the skulls make a damned fine bone broth.

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Belafon  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:22:32pm

re: #77 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Asking for a friend…..

[Embedded content]

Not if they’re crushed.

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:23:39pm

re: #77 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Your friend has skulls to clean once you’re done with your enemies?

How inefficient. Vaporization/pulverization is recommended.

But I guess if you’re trying to keep score, a dishwasher might be needed..

82
Dave In Austin  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:24:24pm
83
lawhawk  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:25:35pm

On cue… what’s the thing twitter focuses on today from Trump?

It’s that Trump lied about Trump’s dad being from Germany, not the Bronx. They’ve already moved on from the more egregious statements Trump made about the border, destroying the US economy to claim some measure of “security”, and that racism continues to drive Trump’s worldview.

84
Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:30:09pm

re: #82 Dave In Austin

“Doesn’t feel good and changes.”

Are we talking about children’s health or the Incredible Hulk?

85
freetoken  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:30:10pm

re: #83 lawhawk

Twitter trends are often dominated by the silliest of culture icons and meaningless circuses.

Maybe that tells us something about Twitter, or something about our society. The latter is scarier.

86
Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:30:32pm

re: #85 freetoken

Instagram too.

87
jaunte  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:31:01pm
88
freetoken  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:31:17pm

re: #86 Eclectic Cyborg

Instagram too.

Speaking of which, I noticed that the Duke and Dutchess of Sussex announced their new Instagram account.

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gocart mozart  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:38:59pm
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Man, DangerMan  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:40:42pm

re: #82 Dave In Austin

Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump
Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn’t feel good and changes - AUTISM. Many such cases!

people this is excellent news!!!! now we’re getting somewhere because there are many such cases.

Please point to one definitive case

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:43:18pm

re: #89 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

Money (That’s What I Want) (Mono) (1999 Remaster)

The best things in life are free
But you can keep them for the birds and bees
Now give me money
That’s what I want
That’s what I want, yeah
That’s what I want

You’re lovin’ gives me a thrill
But you’re lovin’ don’t pay my bills
Now give me money
That’s what I want
That’s what I want, yeah
That’s what I want

Money don’t get everything it’s true
What it don’t get, I can’t use
Now give me money
That’s what I want
That’s what I want, yeah
That’s what I want, wah

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ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:52:11pm

Nicole Wallace just had the mayor of San Juan (PR) on and she just distilled Trump down into a heartless and dishonorable ass.

You know, I would pay to watch her and Trump in a debate about Puerto Rico, the storms and what makes a good President.

But it would never happen because Trump would never allow it to happen. He would be scared of her and probably knows he wouldn’t stand a chance in a battle of wits and words.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:54:41pm

re: #93 ObserverArt

Nicole Wallace just had the mayor of San Juan (PR) on and she just distilled Trump down into a heartless and dishonorable ass.

You know, I would pay to watch her and Trump in a debate about Puerto Rico, the storms and what makes a good President.

But it would never happen because Trump would never allow it to happen. He would be scared of her and probably knows he wouldn’t stand a chance in a battle of wits and words.

he called her “crazed and incompetent” last night.

yeahbut…let’s just give him a break for an err in speaking…

blech

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freetoken  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:54:49pm

Tory Brexiteers condemn Theresa May’s handing over Brexit process to Corbyn, a ‘known Marxist’

TORY Brexiteers have denounced Theresa May’s offer to work with Jeremy Corbyn to break the Brexit deadlock, saying she had entrusted the final stage of the process to a “known Marxist”.

Maybe if we offered the Tory Brexiteers to trade Donald Trump for Theresa May they will go for it?

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:56:04pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

YouTube

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:56:08pm

as if the mayor of San Juan is responsible for the entire fucking island.

gaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh

how much you bet he wouldn’t be doing any of this shit if the mayor was a white man?

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makeitstop  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:57:21pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Video

That. Is. Atrocious.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:57:41pm

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

he called her “crazed and incompetent” last night.

[Embedded content]

yeahbut…let’s just give him a break for an err in speaking…

blech

certainly some of it is deliberate and calculated (if you can use that word with him)

a lot of the rest of it i think is him slowly losing control in front of our eyes

100
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:59:44pm

re: #98 makeitstop

That. Is. Atrocious.

indeed. it. is.

but we can’t deny it happened…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2019 • 1:59:52pm

re: #95 freetoken

Tory Brexiteers condemn Theresa May’s handing over Brexit process to Corbyn, a ‘known Marxist’

Maybe if we offered the Tory Brexiteers to trade Donald Trump for Theresa May they will go for it?

Only if they throw in a couple of first rounders and some cash.

/

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makeitstop  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:01:18pm

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

indeed. it. is.

but we can’t deny it happened…

I was the biggest British Invasion fanboi ever. But I drew the line at Freddie Garrity.

103
Belafon  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:02:24pm

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

he called her “crazed and incompetent” last night.

yeahbut…let’s just give him a break for an err in speaking…

blech

It should be more like this:
“Did you hear about Trump saying his dad was born in Germany?”
“Did you hear about him denying aid to Puerto Rico?”

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BeachDem  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:04:19pm

re: #83 lawhawk

On cue… what’s the thing twitter focuses on today from Trump?

It’s that Trump lied about Trump’s dad being from Germany, not the Bronx. They’ve already moved on from the more egregious statements Trump made about the border, destroying the US economy to claim some measure of “security”, and that racism continues to drive Trump’s worldview.

All hail Daniel Dale—the only one who consistently calls out the lying crap, i.e.:

And on and on and on—all within about 1/2 an hour.

105
Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:08:24pm

FUCK DONALD TRUMP!

Just got to get one of those in every now and then. I feel better.

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ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:12:18pm

re: #104 BeachDem

All hail Daniel Dale—the only one who consistently calls out the lying crap, i.e.:

[Embedded content]

And on and on and on—all within about 1/2 an hour.

Once he gets to rambling he cannot stop. I think that too shows his mental decline. He has no filters left and no idea how it all appears to anyone with a brain. He thinks he makes sense and everything is fine.

And the Mueller thing is bothering him to and that pressure is surely stressing him and that probably doesn’t help either.

He also isn’t controlling “the look” of how he operates and his success. He could do that in NYC with his company and on TV with The Apprentice.

Summation. He is a complete mess. He really is unfit for office, but Republicans.

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Skip Intro  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:14:27pm

re: #84 Eclectic Cyborg

“Doesn’t feel good and changes.”

Are we talking about children’s health or the Incredible Hulk?

I think we’re talking about Barron Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:14:39pm

re: #104 BeachDem

All hail Daniel Dale—the only one who consistently calls out the lying crap, i.e.:

[Embedded content]

And on and on and on—all within about 1/2 an hour.

I’m not going to bother looking up the actual dollar amounts, but MrBWS’s heart attack and surgery and helicopter ambulance total cost was around a quarter of a million dollars.
Our part of that expense: about $2-3,000 (including prescription meds and our own vehicle ground expense).

Our premium cost? No idea since it’s part of the union contract that the employer pays. Once MrBWS retires, it’s around $500 a month for both of us, plus the Medicare premium, so somewhere just under $1,000 a month for the two of us (fingers crossed it doesn’t change too much in two years).

Oh, and the IBEW also has an income replacement scheme for when you are off work due to medical or other emergencies (it didn’t come anywhere near what MrBWS’s paycheck would have been but was on a par with unemployment insurance…and our health insurance continued uninterrupted.)

I do adore IBEW.

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:17:15pm

re: #99 Man, DangerMan

certainly some of it is deliberate and calculated (if you can use that word with him)

a lot of the rest of it i think is him slowly losing control in front of our eyes

He’s cresting a narcissistic high.

Getting to vent his anger and lie openly, knowing that people will echo his feelings and hate/attempt to hurt targets he names…that makes him feel good to the point of intoxication.

I grew up watching it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:19:14pm

sanity prevails, for once, in Kentucky

Boone County Judge J.R. Schrand denied Jerome Kunkel’s request to go back to school. He hasn’t been to school at Assumption Academy in Walton since the middle of March.

sure hoping those are just teenage zits on his forehead and not chicken pox…

111
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:20:33pm
112
KGxvi  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:21:04pm

re: #77 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

They are dishwasher safe, but you don’t want to use a heated drying cycle. Learned that mistake the hard way and had to raid a whole new village…

113
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:22:20pm
114
jaunte  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:24:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:24:02pm

yep, this

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:25:25pm

re: #114 jaunte

[Embedded content]

one second!
but it really bears repeating because it’s so true.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:26:43pm

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

sanity prevails, for once, in Kentucky

[Embedded content]

sure hoping those are just teenage zits on his forehead and not chicken pox…

“Kunkel says that violates his family’s religious beliefs about the vaccine.”

bullshit.
your family’s ‘religious beliefs’ and yes, even your religion’s beliefs are 21st century opinions and interpretations.

virtually no religion’s fundamental and historical tenets have any objection to vaccination

(yes Church of Christ, Scientist, excepted. and no they arent the only one)

this is what they’re trying to do. making individualized religion acceptable so anything goes and can be justified.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:31:16pm

re: #117 Man, DangerMan

further, when you have the full gamut from Scientology to the Jains ok with it, you probably don’t have a leg to stand on

119
Unshaken Defiance  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:38:22pm

Jareds Galleria Of Secrets

Chinese woman lied to Secret Service and slipped into Mar-a-Lago, prosecutors say
A woman carrying two Chinese passports and a device containing computer malware lied to Secret Service agents and briefly gained admission to President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago club over the weekend during his Florida visit, federal prosecutors allege in court documents.

Yujing Zhang, 32, approached a Secret Service agent at a checkpoint outside the Palm Beach club early Saturday afternoon and said she was a member who wanted to use the pool, court documents said. She showed the passports as identification.

Agents said she wasn’t on the membership list, but a club manager thought Zhang was the daughter of a member. Agents said when they asked Zhang if the member was her father, she did not answer definitively, but they thought it might be a language barrier and admitted her

latimes.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:39:58pm

re: #104 BeachDem

All hail Daniel Dale—the only one who consistently calls out the lying crap, i.e.:

[Embedded content]

And on and on and on—all within about 1/2 an hour.

Dale has covered so many of Trump’s rants that he already knows most of the lies by heart and can fact check on the fly.

121
Targetpractice  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:41:27pm

re: #119 Unshaken Defiance

Jareds Galleria Of Secrets

latimes.com

I’m sure there’s nothing to worry about as Donny would never conduct something like…say…a briefing on North Korea out in the open while at Mar-a-Lago.

Oh wait, that actually happened.

122
jaunte  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:46:47pm
123
Unshaken Defiance  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:47:22pm

re: #121 Targetpractice

There is a frightening regularity to all this.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:49:42pm

… Mustafa Bali, a spokesman for the Syrian Democratic Forces, said they are rooting out groups of militants who were hiding in caves in and near the village of Baghouz. He added that SDF experts are still removing mines and booby-traps in areas liberated in recent weeks.

The SDF declared military victory over ISIS on March 23 after liberating what it said was the last pocket of territory held by the militants. The victory marked the end of the brutal self-styled caliphate the group carved out in large parts of Iraq and Syria in 2014. …

125
Barefoot Grin  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:49:56pm

The Flying Lizards - Money

126
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 2, 2019 • 2:59:39pm

Not one to normally promote the words of Greenwald, but…
Jair Bolsonaro the (far-right wingnut nationalist) President of Brazil

127
Unshaken Defiance  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:02:57pm

re: #124 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Trump trained.

128
GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:05:18pm

re: #119 Unshaken Defiance

Dumb lady. All she had to do was pay the membership fee, and she’d have free access to Trump at all times.

129
Unshaken Defiance  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:06:56pm

re: #128 GlutenFreeJesus

Dumb lady. All she had to do was pay the membership fee, and she’d have free access to Trump at all times.

Spying on a budget is hard.

130
plansbandc  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:09:15pm

Gerry & The Pacemakers - Ferry Cross The Mersey (1965)

131
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:09:45pm
132
jaunte  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:09:58pm
133
Belafon  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:17:46pm

Someone posted the new Endgame spot with ticket buying. This was buried in the replies:

134
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:18:30pm

Oh, and that ‘Jesus — get these people out’ wasn’t WH press flack Hogan Gidley, but someone responding on twitter…

135
Teukka  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:24:16pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

136
2020 Blue Wisconsin  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:25:32pm

re: #82 Dave In Austin

[Embedded content]

He posts that shit on f’ing World Autism Awareness day?!?!

As the parent of 2 children on the spectrum, all I have to say is

Click to Reveal

Fuck you, you orange shitgibbon!

137
Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:29:32pm

re: #135 Teukka

Maybe we can send him there anyway?

138
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:32:33pm

re: #126 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Not one to normally promote the words of Greenwald, but…
Jair Bolsonaro the (far-right wingnut nationalist) President of Brazil

[Embedded content]

oh…Glenn is gonna be hearing a quiet knock on the door…

139
2020 Blue Wisconsin  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:32:41pm

The escalating claims of increasingly close German heritage probably just endears him all the more to his base of nazis and nazi sympathizers. Which I’m sure is a complete accident….

140
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:32:56pm

Wasn’t he supposed to do this in the first 90 days of something?

141
BeachDem  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:33:15pm

re: #120 The Vicious Babushka

Dale has covered so many of Trump’s rants that he already knows most of the lies by heart and can fact check on the fly.

He also maintains a database of the lies, so that helps out.

142
Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:34:22pm
143
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:34:56pm
144
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:34:57pm

re: #130 plansbandc

[Embedded content]

First time I visited Liverpool, there was the ferry crossing the Mersey, blaring out that song on the ferry’s loudspeakers.

145
Teukka  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:38:32pm

re: #137 Eclectic Cyborg

Maybe we can send him there anyway?

[Embedded content]

Giphy

146
BeachDem  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:39:33pm

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

First time I visited Liverpool, there was the ferry crossing the Mersey, blaring out that song on the ferry’s loudspeakers.

Hey Sleuth—our two Reps are truly showing their mean, petty selves, eh?

147
ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:43:34pm

re: #141 BeachDem

He also maintains a database of the lies, so that helps out.

I hope Daniel Dale does a book that categorizes each lie, like a chronology, with times and place and a bit of text setting context. It needs to be entered into history as it will be studied.

Put that database to work for good.

148
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:44:22pm

re: #146 BeachDem

Hey Sleuth—our two Reps are truly showing their mean, petty selves, eh?

[Embedded content]

asshats, all of them

149
Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:44:41pm

re: #146 BeachDem

Hey Sleuth—our two Reps are truly showing their mean, petty selves, eh?

[Embedded content]

Wow, what assholes.

150
KGxvi  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:45:58pm

re: #131 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

(All numbers from the wikipedia totals)

In 2016, Clinton underperformed Obama’s 2012 national vote total by 62,286. While Trump overperformed Romney’s 2012 national vote total by 2,051,324 votes. That 62,286 is pretty close to the legendary 70,000 across three states.

For what it’s worth, Obama’s 2008 national vote total was 3,582,721 votes better than his 2012 vote total. So, since 2008, the Democratic nominee lost 3,645,007 votes. In the same time frame, the GOP nominee gained 3,036,505 votes (McCain’s vote total was 59,948,323).

If you want to go further back in time, in 2000, neither nominee got to 51 million votes (Gore was 103 votes shy of that number). So turnout for both parties is way up (Clinton got 65.8m votes in 2016, Trump got 62.9m) from that date, but (as of now) the peak was Obama’s 69,498,516 votes in 2008 for the Democratic nominee.

There’s probably a billion different ways that you can break those numbers down and in order to find an answer to why we are stuck in this terrible timeline. There are Obama-Trump voters, there are Romney-Clinton voters, there are people who hadn’t voted before, there are people who stopped voting (including the dead). The protest votes are low hanging fruit, and in the cases of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania the “protest vote” for Johnson was bigger than the vote for Stein, you’d have to figure that those votes would have more likely broken for a Republican nominee because too many of my libertarian fellow travelers are assholes/morons.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:48:05pm

re: #134 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Matthew Gertz
✔
@MattGertz
MSNBC’s @HallieJackson to WH dep. press secretary Hogan Gidley: Trump “says Puerto Ricans are taking from the USA. Puerto Rico is part of the United States. People who live in Puerto Rico are U.S. Citizens. You’re rolling your eyes and I don’t know why you’re rolling your eyes.”

My standard 3 step process:
Step 1. See Matthew Gertz and read Matt Gaetz,
Step 2. Get confused by the text of the tweet.
Step 3. Discover that once again I cannot read.

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KGxvi  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:49:29pm

re: #140 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

President Trump, bowing to political reality, says he’s putting off thoughts of a replacement for the Affordable Care Act until after the 2020 election.

He’s going to run for re-election doing all of the following:

1. reminding voters that he failed to accomplish his top priority;
2. making the election, again, about healthcare (how’d that turn out in 2018?);
3. with a secret plan to fix healthcare that he won’t tell anyone any details on

That seems like a strategy for success.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:51:44pm

re: #152 KGxvi

He’s going to run for re-election doing all of the following:

1. reminding voters that he failed to accomplish his top priority;
2. making the election, again, about healthcare (how’d that turn out in 2018?);
3. with a secret plan to fix healthcare that he won’t tell anyone any details on

That seems like a strategy for success.

Worked for Nixon in 1968 — when he had a secret plan to end the war.

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KGxvi  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:52:35pm

re: #153 Hecuba’s daughter

Worked for Nixon in 1968 — when he had a secret plan to end the war.

Nixon wasn’t the incumbent.

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ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:54:24pm

re: #152 KGxvi

He’s going to run for re-election doing all of the following:

1. reminding voters that he failed to accomplish his top priority;
2. making the election, again, about healthcare (how’d that turn out in 2018?);
3. with a secret plan to fix healthcare that he won’t tell anyone any details on

That seems like a strategy for success.

Just a bit ago, a history reminder came up in a MSNBC discussion.

It was about Dicky Nixon saying he had a secret plan to end the Vietnam war but couldn’t tell anyone right now as it is in negotiations. Just elect him and you will see the results.

The war ended 7 years later.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:56:04pm

re: #151 Hecuba’s daughter

Glad I’m not the only one..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2019 • 3:56:44pm

re: #146 BeachDem

Hey Sleuth—our two Reps are truly showing their mean, petty selves, eh?

[Embedded content]

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 2, 2019 • 4:07:06pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Now, let’s do the same for the beagles

YES PLEASE!!!

EDIT: And also the monkeys

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KGxvi  Apr 2, 2019 • 4:10:25pm

re: #155 ObserverArt

Just a bit ago, a history reminder came up in a MSNBC discussion.

It was about Dicky Nixon saying he had a secret plan to end the Vietnam war but couldn’t tell anyone right now as it is in negotiations. Just elect him and you will see the results.

The war ended 7 years later.

Sure. But as I said above, Nixon wasn’t the incumbent in 1968. And there’s an argument to be made that a presidential candidate really shouldn’t say much more about an ongoing war beyond “I want to end it” or “we need to keep the fight on for [reasons]”. But most importantly, it the fact that he’s going to remind everyone about his biggest failure, over and over. The Dems or some SuperPAC aligned with them should be running commercials and digital ads reminding everyone that Trump failed in very large part because there’s no GOP plan for the “replace” part of “repeal and replace” - the only thing they can agree on is going back to a worse system.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 2, 2019 • 4:17:01pm

re: #41 KGxvi

As for everything else, he’s basically talking about ending immigration as we know it in the United States. And doing it in 45 minutes is a joke.

He couldn’t reach his own feet in 45 minutes.


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