Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.) on Sept. 24 came out in support of an impeachment investigation of President Trump following allegations that Trump asked Ukraine to investigate former vice president Joe Biden and his son.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi expected to announce impeachment inquiry
These fucking hateful morons. So sick of the Trumpites. pic.twitter.com/2AmZ2BZ8i9
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 24, 2019
We were just getting started piling on Slasher downstairs.
Status report on our nation’s critical infrastructure:
- Dams - Broken
- Floodgates - Opened
- Train stations - Depleted of trains, which have already left
- Horse barn - Lacking horses, which already left.
- Points of no return = Passed
- Rubicons = Crossed— Alex Seitz-Wald (@aseitzwald) September 24, 2019
John Lewis is about as morally sound as the best of them. His words carry great weight and he’s thin on BS. I’m glad we still got him, hope there are more like him.
Reposting from downstairs:
I apologize for my language yesterday regarding the Democrats’ reluctance on impeachment. I slept on it, and you guys were right: a non-vote is as good as a vote for a Republican. Sorry again, I was really tired and frustrated by everything.
From downstairs:
re: #405 Ace Rothstein
I apologize for my language yesterday regarding the Democrats’ reluctance on impeachment. I slept on it, and you guys were right: a non-vote is as good as a vote for a Republican. Sorry again, I was really tired and frustrated by everything.
It can get bleak at times, especially if you’re on here, where we tend to concentrate on the crap going wrong. Make sure you get some rest, and look for the good things going on that are worth defending, and there are plenty.
re: #3 Belafon
You can keep on keeping on. How did Clinton fare after his impeachment?
re: #8 Shropshire Slasher
You can keep on keeping on. How did Clinton fare after his impeachment?
Ask President Gore.
re: #5 BigPapa
John Lewis is about as morally sound as the best of them. His words carry great weight and he’s thin on BS. I’m glad we still got him, hope there are more like him.
There’s a former bartender, who might not have the weight of history behind her, but she’s pretty good at the word thing.
When asked about the House moving forward with impeachment, Trump, always the history buff, says, “This has never happened to a president before.” pic.twitter.com/ZCg0IQ5czX
— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@BettyBowers) September 24, 2019
If I needed any more evidence that the right wing is composed of truly disgusting people, I’d just look at the thousands of vicious, hateful comments about Greta Thunberg they’re posting all over the internet.
I didn’t really need any more evidence, though.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 24, 2019
re: #12 Belafon
He gets to be referred to as former Vice President Gore from now till eternity.
re: #16 Shropshire Slasher
He gets to be referred to as former Vice President Gore from now till eternity.
You can lead a horse to water…….
re: #8 Shropshire Slasher
You can keep on keeping on. How did Clinton fare after his impeachment?
Ask the GOP who captured the Senate and the White House.
I think one of the lessons we’re getting from Nixon and Trump is that if you wait long enough, they will do something that crosses enough people’s line.
re: #13 The Pie Overlord!
Trump just sent out an email to announce an “Impeachment Defense Task Force.” You have to pay him to join it.
Always the grifter, his first response to impeachment is to use it to shake down his cult for more cash. pic.twitter.com/wlSOgFJcSD— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@BettyBowers) September 24, 2019
Freshman Rep. Lance Gooden (R-Texas) can eat a bag of dicks.
— Benjamin Dreyer (@BCDreyer) September 24, 2019
Desperation move.
there’s no way there’s going to be an explicit quid pro quo on this transcript, everything we learned from the cohen testimony is that he basically never directly asks for something inappropriate
— Matthew Zeitlin (@MattZeitlin) September 24, 2019
“Nice business you got here. Be a shame if somethin’ was to happen to it.” doesn’t read as an explicit quid pro quo, either.
re: #20 Scottish Dragon
Before or after?
He is too busy playing Devil’s Triangle with Kavansugh and Squee….
— Deirdre🇺🇸🏴 (@Celticlassy10) September 24, 2019
re: #27 Shropshire Slasher
Before or after?
You are starting to be simultaneously annoying and boring. Tendentiousness gets on my nerves.
Meanwhile, over in the Senate…
THIS IS HUGE: Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC) and Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) signal that the panel is pursuing the politically explosive issue of the Ukraine whistleblower on a bipartisan basis by asking for an interview with the person who filed the complaint. https://t.co/ezaD6wa1l3
— Amee Vanderpool (@girlsreallyrule) September 24, 2019
re: #8 Shropshire Slasher
The GOP suffered no repercussions for impeaching Clinton. None.
Democrats can impeach Trump, using Lindsay Graham’s own standards - which were impossibly low even by Graham’s standards. You can impeach and remove to cleanse the office.
But unlike Clinton, we’ve got clear criminal conduct that Trump repeats regularly.
1. emoluments. It’s in the US Constitution. Trump violates this provision for both domestic and foreign emoluments. He profits from every move and action taken - soliciting foreign companies to go to his businesses to get favorable terms, etc.
2. obstruction of justice - it’s in the Mueller Report. Read it some time. In fact, you’d see that they couldn’t reach a conclusion on other criminal acts because of the ongoing obstruction of justice.
3. conspiracy against the US - this goes to the meetings with foreign agents to throw the election and point (2) above.
4. unindicted coconspirator on Michael Cohen’s financial crimes. These are felony crimes.
5. Tax fraud and evasion at state and federal level.
6. Financial crimes at the state and federal level (also relating to 1, 2, 4, 5).
7. Trump University (running a scam school and barred from running any nonprofit in NY along with his family).
8. nepotism where his unqualified Ivanka/Jared are running key positions and violating opsec by lacking proper security clearances (Trump trumped the security checks that flagged their clearances).
9. Trump and Ukraine
10. Trump and the June 2016 meeting.
If you just stick to those 10 items, instead of breaking them out into individual charges, you’ve got enough to impeach. But there’s so much more than that. There’s the failures to help Puerto Rico - the depraved indifference; there’s the taking of money appropriated to FEMA and defense department that he reappropriated to his boondoggle wall; there’s the promises of pardons to those who’d break the law to get his wall built; etc.
It’s a never ending scandal from Trumpworld, and you’re still thinking that holding Trump accountable is a bad thing?
re: #26 Blind Frog Belly White
“Nice business you got here. Be a shame if somethin’ was to happen to it.” doesn’t read as an explicit quid pro quo, either.
GOP: But he never said Ukraine would only receive the money if they investigated Biden.
Trump to Ukraine President: How do you feel about horse heads and beds?
GOP: See, nothing.
Amazing how an autistic 16 year old girl triggers so many men. Almost as if she were correct about what she is saying….
— Deirdre🇺🇸🏴 (@Celticlassy10) September 24, 2019
New Impeachment Democrats now *campaigning* on impeachment in Trump districts. Folks, it’s all changed. pic.twitter.com/qJJYk4kgbW
— Tom Watson (@tomwatson) September 24, 2019
re: #35 lawhawk
So there was a game plan after all…
If Trump didn’t think the transcript of his Ukraine call could be spun to make it look like he did nothing wrong he wouldn’t allow it to be released. Michael Cohen told us how he operates — like a mobster. He won’t make explicit threats. He doesn’t have to.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 24, 2019
re: #29 Scottish Dragon
Why didn’t the Republicans impeach Clinton after he won his second term?
Things could start falling apart for the Trump Crime Family pretty quickly.
Should we expect to see a wave of WH staff resignations?
re: #38 Shropshire Slasher
Why didn’t the Republicans impeach Clinton after he won his second term?
They did. I watched it the entire time on TV. Google is your friend.
re: #38 Shropshire Slasher
Why didn’t the Republicans impeach Clinton after he won his second term?
What are you talking about????? You can’t seriously be asking that question???
re: #38 Shropshire Slasher
Why didn’t the Republicans impeach Clinton after he won his second term?
What’s your deal? Seems your trying to find a scab to pic.
re: #31 lawhawk
The Republicans were powerless after impeachment, and Clinton was untouchable after that. All impeaching Trump will do is empower his base. I’m all for impeachment, this is absolutely fascinating to watch.
re: #38 Shropshire Slasher
Why didn’t the Republicans impeach Clinton after he won his second term?
The Republicans impeached Clinton after he won his second term.
That’s when they did it. 1999 > 1996
re: #41 Hecuba’s daughter
What are you talking about????? You can’t seriously be asking that question???
I’m fairly certain there will be a pretty high percentage of chumps.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 24, 2019
re: #43 Shropshire Slasher
The Republicans were powerless after impeachment, and Clinton was untouchable after that. All impeaching Trump will do is empower his base. I’m all for impeachment, this is absolutely fascinating to watch.
Utterly not how things happened, but do go on with your alternate history.
re: #44 Blind Frog Belly White
My memory is mistaken.
re: #34 Scottish Dragon
Someone doesn’t want to admit that they went to war for the handful of lies that are Republican promises. That’s why she triggers them so hard.
re: #6 Ace Rothstein
Reposting from downstairs:
I apologize for my language yesterday regarding the Democrats’ reluctance on impeachment. I slept on it, and you guys were right: a non-vote is as good as a vote for a Republican. Sorry again, I was really tired and frustrated by everything.
let’s remember we dont know much of what goes on in washington. behind the scenes.
they (the dems) are orchestrating a lot of this.
whether nancy et al planned something like this all along, or whether she/they was just waiting for something like this to happen, or whether they were delaying on purpose because they actually did have a strategic timeline (no matter what they say publicly and how it looks); here we are.
trump doesnt plan. he does stuff, then when it blows up has to find a way out. he’s good at that with a complicit senate and admin.
this/these phone conversation(s) were right after the mueller report came out. it took this long for the public to hear about it. i like to think nancy gave him the rope and waited for him to self impeach (as she said).
this just happens to be the issue du jour.
re: #36 Eclectic Cyborg
So there was a game plan after all…
I don’t think so. This was basically waiting for something really outrageous to happen, which is reactive.
re: #6 Ace Rothstein
Reposting from downstairs:
I apologize for my language yesterday regarding the Democrats’ reluctance on impeachment. I slept on it, and you guys were right: a non-vote is as good as a vote for a Republican. Sorry again, I was really tired and frustrated by everything.
Ace have faith!
Trump blundered a rook away and Nancy has him by the nuts. The endgame has been reached. She knew he would go too far and she just led him on!
re: #48 Shropshire Slasher
My memory is mistaken.
Clearly. Perhaps you need to reevaluate your whole line of what we will indulgently refer to as ‘thought’.
re: #38 Shropshire Slasher
How about let’s focus on today and the pending announcement of an impeachment inquiry—we are now talking about the dems who have decided it’s time to open an impeachment inquiry on the executive office crime cartel. No one is going to redo the Clinton ‘impeachment’ so let it go.
re: #52 Joe Bacon 🌹
Ace have faith!
Trump blundered a rook away and Nancy has him by the nuts. The endgame has been reached. She knew he would go too far and she just led him on!
Rule #1: Republicans always, always overreach.
re: #38 Shropshire Slasher
Why didn’t the Republicans impeach Clinton after he won his second term?
Clinton won his second term in November 1996.
The Republican-led House impeachment inquiry began in October 1998 and issued articles of impeachment in early December 1998.
The Senate trial began in January 1999 and he was acquitted on February 12, 1999.
re: #54 DangerMan
I’ll leave you to your impeachment party.
re: #6 Ace Rothstein
No apology necessary. Politics under Trump is frustrating as hell. I’ve even stopped watching certain political programs just to take a break from all the madness. We need a vacation after Trump is out of office to get our bearings.
re: #48 Shropshire Slasher
My memory is mistaken.
You’re flailing. We get it. You’re not the first Republican to come in here, think you can support Trump, and think you can keep it under wraps. It would probably work if it had been President Cruz or President Kasich. But Trump, supporting him blindly will get you trapped because he represents the logical conclusion of all of the GOP positions.
re: #48 Shropshire Slasher
My memory is mistaken.
Ok, that’s a start. The Dems learned the wrong lessons from the Clinton impeachment and it is taken this long to work through that.
Wow — CNN put together this clip highlighting how Trump changed his public rationale for withholding aid to Ukraine from yesterday to today pic.twitter.com/25QJ8VPsnU
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 24, 2019
re: #43 Shropshire Slasher
There were no negative repercussions to the GOP after impeachment. They ultimately won the WH and broke even in the House and lose a handful of seats in the Senate.
But suddenly all the risk is on the Democrats now for impeaching Trump who has committed clear felony acts - high crimes worthy of impeachment and removal.
Gotcha.
Thing is - impeachment is imperative if you believe in the rule of law.
I don’t know about any grand plans by the Democrats, but I do know that the only way for Democrats to not instantly get crucified in the hostile both-siderist media for impeaching Trump was to be dragged to the point where it had to be done.
A bad take from a bad person. https://t.co/efFNtTWgKQ
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 24, 2019
re: #26 Blind Frog Belly White
this is important, but (in my non lawyerly opinion, not necessary)
the first ‘crime’ is asking the foreign power for help (campaign violation)
the qpq is on top of that (extortion)
and let’s remember, impeachment does not have to be for a criminal act (proved or not)
what he did was not treason.
it maybe treason-ish.
it’s for damn sure unpatriotic and downright unamerican.
there’s no way there’s going to be an explicit quid pro quo on this transcript, everything we learned from the cohen testimony is that he basically never directly asks for something inappropriate
— Matthew Zeitlin (@MattZeitlin) September 24, 2019
re: #65 Charles Johnson
Comey needs to sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up. He has one of the biggest god-complexes in US politics.
re: #58 Shropshire Slasher
I’ll leave you to your impeachment party.
Let us leave you with this thought, then - Trump has admitted to pressing the Ukrainian President to investigate Biden - one of his most probably opponents.
ON ITS FACE, this is using the power of his office for his own personal gain. That’s impeachable.
He did this at a time when he had put a hold on money Ukraine needs in order to survive in the face of Russian aggression.
That’s using the power of his office to extort the cooperation of a foreign leader in digging up dirt on a political opponent. That’s also impeachable.
re: #31 lawhawk
The GOP suffered no repercussions for impeaching Clinton. None.
Democrats can impeach Trump, using Lindsay Graham’s own standards - which were impossibly low even by Graham’s standards. You can impeach and remove to cleanse the office.
But unlike Clinton, we’ve got clear criminal conduct that Trump repeats regularly.1. emoluments. It’s in the US Constitution. Trump violates this provision for both domestic and foreign emoluments. He profits from every move and action taken - soliciting foreign companies to go to his businesses to get favorable terms, etc.
2. obstruction of justice - it’s in the Mueller Report. Read it some time. In fact, you’d see that they couldn’t reach a conclusion on other criminal acts because of the ongoing obstruction of justice.
3. conspiracy against the US - this goes to the meetings with foreign agents to throw the election and point (2) above.
4. unindicted coconspirator on Michael Cohen’s financial crimes. These are felony crimes.
5. Tax fraud and evasion at state and federal level.
6. Financial crimes at the state and federal level (also relating to 1, 2, 4, 5).
7. Trump University (running a scam school and barred from running any nonprofit in NY along with his family).
8. nepotism where his unqualified Ivanka/Jared are running key positions and violating opsec by lacking proper security clearances (Trump trumped the security checks that flagged their clearances).
9. Trump and Ukraine
10. Trump and the June 2016 meeting.
If you just stick to those 10 items, instead of breaking them out into individual charges, you’ve got enough to impeach. But there’s so much more than that. There’s the failures to help Puerto Rico - the depraved indifference; there’s the taking of money appropriated to FEMA and defense department that he reappropriated to his boondoggle wall; there’s the promises of pardons to those who’d break the law to get his wall built; etc.
It’s a never ending scandal from Trumpworld, and you’re still thinking that holding Trump accountable is a bad thing?
i would just clarify as opposed to clinton, “in his official acts as president”
re: #66 DangerMan
this is important, but (in my non lawyerly opinion, not necessary)
the first ‘crime’ is asking the foreign power for help (campaign violation)
the qpq is on top of that (extortion)and let’s remember, impeachment does not have to be for a criminal act (proved or not)
what he did was not treason.
it maybe treason-ish.
it’s for damn sure unpatriotic and downright unamerican.[Embedded content]
“I may have committed a little light treason…”
Pelosi: Now we have the facts, we’re ready. (To be announced later today)
I’m a little embarrassed I ever doubted Nancy Pelosi. Clearly, she knew Trump would bury himself again with crimes committed WHILE he was potus. And he has. pic.twitter.com/4zy95XLlgu— LiA (@LibsInAmerica) September 24, 2019
re: #56 makeitstop
Rule #1: Republicans always, always overreach.
Rule #2: Trump always makes everything worse for himself in the long run.
Rule #3: Everything Trump touches turns to shit and dies.
re: #65 Charles Johnson
In part, I kind of agree with him. The GOP really needs to suffer for this. The only good way to make them suffer without hurting the rest of the country is for them to get burned at the polls, and that would probably be much worse if Trump were still in office. But over all, we need to do the right thing now.
re: #37 Charles Johnson
simply withholding/delaying the money spoke volumes
If Trump didn’t think the transcript of his Ukraine call could be spun to make it look like he did nothing wrong he wouldn’t allow it to be released. Michael Cohen told us how he operates — like a mobster. He won’t make explicit threats. He doesn’t have to.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 24, 2019
First one I’ve ever enjoyed!!
Hey, everybody, are you enjoying Infrastructure Week.
— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) September 24, 2019
re: #67 sagehen
As I’ve been saying over and over again…
NANCY KNOWS HOW TO MATH.
Nancy was the seasoned rock-and-roller with a rookie band…the crowd is thundering, waiting for them to come on, the band is itching to go, but Nancy wanted to wait for the right moment to work the crowd up to fever pitch.
re: #41 Hecuba’s daughter
What are you talking about????? You can’t seriously be asking that question???
folks, like i said, above, er below, wherever…
crackpot
ignore it
don’t boost the signal or call attention
re: #66 DangerMan
This particular crime is not treason but there have been other moments where he has given “aid and comfort” to the Russian Federation after what I consider to be Acts of War against the US during the 2016 elections. That will never be pursued because nobody has the stomach to take that where it would lead.
Trump is backed into a corner and offers a transcript of the call? I’ve seen this movie before and this is a lousy remake.
Today is a beautiful day to exercise our constitutional duty! 💪🏽 https://t.co/wvGOa3hZJm
— Ilhan Omar (@IlhanMN) September 24, 2019
re: #58 Shropshire Slasher
I’ll leave you to your impeachment party.
And hey, next time you’re passing by, why don’t you.
re: #72 gocart mozart
Impeachment was never something she could force the Dem caucus to do. It had to reach critical mass.
re: #51 Scottish Dragon
I don’t think so. This was basically waiting for something really outrageous to happen, which is reactive.
personally, i think both
they had some kind of plan and were waiting…
and something better / this came along in the mean time
Just to temper everything a little: We have yet to see the amount of poo the Right and the Russians will fling.
re: #66 DangerMan
The critical component to this: Reporting suggests that the call was only part of the pattern cited by the whistleblower. Releasing just this doesn’t give a full picture. https://t.co/Lj8kSUKCWd
— Philip Bump (@pbump) September 24, 2019
It’s not just the transcript and the call that raised all kinds of red flags. There’s other evidence of wrongdoing that the whistleblower went to the IG with.
re: #80 calochortus
Trump is backed into a corner and offers a transcript of the call? I’ve seen this movie before and this is a lousy remake.
They’re going to try every dodge they can think of to try and defuse this.
Transcript? No. Try complying with the law.
re: #59 Patricia Kayden
No apology necessary. Politics under Trump is frustrating as hell. I’ve even stopped watching certain political programs just to take a break from all the madness. We need a vacation after Trump is out of office to get our bearings.
tacos, pizza, and…beverages
re: #58 Shropshire Slasher
I guess the leopard has already eaten your face. Just let it go—no one is going back to Clinton’s ‘impeachment’ with you.
re: #88 DangerMan
Taco trucks on every corner, mariachi bands and margaritas.
All night party and new national holiday.
re: #70 DangerMan
Trump’s criminal acts occurred before and during his presidency.
They were part of his effort to become President, and to remain in office, and to get reelected. They were part of his effort to punish his political enemies and to reward his cronies. They are part of his effort to profit from his office regardless of laws that prohibit such conduct.
Clinton’s Whitewater investigation was into actions taken well before he was in the WH, and Starr ultimately found Clinton lying about what was seemingly a consensual relationship/affair with Lewinsky. It’s on those lies that Starr and the GOP moved to impeach.
re: #80 calochortus
Trump is backed into a corner and offers a transcript of the call? I’ve seen this movie before and this is a lousy remake.
That’s not enough. We need to see the whistleblower complaint in its entirety because I’m sure it wasn’t about just one phone call. Trump is playing games.
re: #90 cat-tikvah
Taco trucks on every corner, mariachi bands and margaritas.
All night party and new national holiday.
Sink-o de Pendejo
re: #87 makeitstop
They’re going to try every dodge they can think of to try and defuse this.
Transcript? No. Try complying with the law.
Any transcript released by Trumpco under Trumpco control will be full of lies.
The most worthwhile evidence will be the IC intercepts of Trump’s corruption and treachery.
re: #63 lawhawk
There were no negative repercussions to the GOP after impeachment. They ultimately won the WH and broke even in the House and lose a handful of seats in the Senate.
But suddenly all the risk is on the Democrats now for impeaching Trump who has committed clear felony acts - high crimes worthy of impeachment and removal.
Gotcha.
Thing is - impeachment is imperative if you believe in the rule of law.
the dems were getting close, and with whistleblowergate are now at the point where the risk for inaction is about the same as the risk on the R’s was to acquit
the r’s were gonna be tarred with an acquit vote
if the d’s don’t act, they will be tarred with cowardice / ‘enabling’ or whatever you want to call it
re: #92 Patricia Kayden
That’s not enough. We need to see the whistleblower complaint in its entirety because I’m sure it wasn’t about just one phone call. Trump is playing games.
Yup. It just seems Nixon-esque
re: #67 sagehen
As I’ve been saying over and over again…
NANCY KNOWS HOW TO MATH.
it’s not the new math, it’s that old math
re: #69 Blind Frog Belly White
Let us leave you with this thought, then - Trump has admitted to pressing the Ukrainian President to investigate Biden - one of his most probably opponents.
ON ITS FACE, this is using the power of his office for his own personal gain. That’s impeachable.
He did this at a time when he had put a hold on money Ukraine needs in order to survive in the face of Russian aggression.
That’s using the power of his office to extort the cooperation of a foreign leader in digging up dirt on a political opponent. That’s also impeachable.
four simple sentences
that’s another reason why this has legs
- its easy to explain
- easy to understand
- and as i said, cheating is a totally shitty, anti-american, against the rules thing to do
re: #98 DangerMan
four simple sentences
that’s another reason why this has legs
- its easy to explain
- easy to understand
- and as i said, cheating is a totally shitty, anti-american, against the rules thing to do
Unless you’re a Republican doing the Lord’s work, of course.
wsj’s @JeanneCummings said on fox just now that gop “lost their majority in the house” after impeaching clinton. i dont think she said this dishonestly, but this isn’t what happened. gop lost 4 seats in 98, 2 in 00, gained 8 in 02, 3 in 04 and didnt lose control until 06 (-27)
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) September 24, 2019
Looks like the immediate R response is to talk about Bill Clinton.
re: #74 Belafon
In part, I kind of agree with him. The GOP really needs to suffer for this. The only good way to make them suffer without hurting the rest of the country is for them to get burned at the polls, and that would probably be much worse if Trump were still in office. But over all, we need to do the right thing now.
both
- do the right thing now
- burn them at the polls
then govern
I had originally heard that Pelosi was waiting for after the next recess so the House members could gauge district support. That plan has been overtaken.
It seems to me that the next series of steps will be the Dem’s trying to expose administration wrongdoing. While Trump’s henchman attempt to co-opt the investigations to claim “Nothing to see”.
The Dem’s have been selling themselves as the party of the Constitution and and law and the Repugs as the lawless criminals. I suspect part of the calculus of going towards impeachment is that the they feel they have prevailed in that political argument.
re: #80 calochortus
Trump is backed into a corner and offers a transcript of the call? I’ve seen this movie before and this is a lousy remake.
who typed the transcript? we’d like to interview that person
no. you cant.
really, why would that be?
re: #81 gocart mozart
The New York Times
With a cascade of Democrats declaring their support for an impeachment push against President Trump, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who has been reluctant, appeared to be changing course nyti.ms
hey NYT: “appeared” is the right word.
she sure had you snowed for months
Statement from Pelosi and Hoyer: “On Wednesday, the House will vote on a resolution making it clear Congress’s disapproval of the Administration’s effort to block the release of the complaint and the need to protect the whistleblower. This is not a partisan matter.”
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) September 24, 2019
re: #83 Blind Frog Belly White
Impeachment was never something she could force the Dem caucus to do. It had to reach critical mass.
patience is hard when you already know
and we’ve known all along
re: #91 lawhawk
Trump’s criminal acts occurred before and during his presidency.
They were part of his effort to become President, and to remain in office, and to get reelected. They were part of his effort to punish his political enemies and to reward his cronies. They are part of his effort to profit from his office regardless of laws that prohibit such conduct.Clinton’s Whitewater investigation was into actions taken well before he was in the WH, and Starr ultimately found Clinton lying about what was seemingly a consensual relationship/affair with Lewinsky. It’s on those lies that Starr and the GOP moved to impeach.
im agreeing
i was saying that clinton didnt abuse the power of the office
re: #99 calochortus
Unless you’re a Republican doing the Lord’s work, of course.
There are some conservatives around here who are beyond that with him. Not as many as I would like but more than I expected. He’s starting to look more like a street thug than a Soprano type Mafioso and that’s not a good look.
re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Sink-o de Pendejo
you win. take the rest of the day off.
re: #100 jaunte
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Looks like the immediate R response is to talk about Bill Clinton.
Which I am sure the Dems are prepared for. You don’t have to be very smart at all to know they’d go there.
“I did not have contextual relations with that Dictator…”
Forget Where’s Waldo.
Who’s the Whistleblower?
Who is this generation’s Deep Throat? No one expected that to be Mark Felt, but now there’s a very limited number of people who could be in a position to blow whistle on Trumpworld in this fashion.
I put even odds that it’s John Bolton. Slightly better odds for those who worked directly for Bolton. They knew/had reason to know, and have shown just enough independent thought in Trumpworld to identify criminal conduct and want to have no part of it (or at least distance themselves from the full effect of that criminal conduct).
Hmmm. https://t.co/T4GwYh4gvW
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 24, 2019
Is McConnell starting to get cold feet?
re: #113 Charles Johnson
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Is McConnell starting to get cold feet?
That’s what I’m thinking.
re: #113 Charles Johnson
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Is McConnell starting to get cold feet?
he’s pulling his head inside his shell
re: #113 Charles Johnson
Is McConnell starting to get cold feet?
Please let it come out that McConnell was involved with the cover-up.
re: #99 calochortus
Unless you’re a Republican doing the Lord’s work, of course.
some R’s understand fair play
they watch the NFL, NASCAR, etc.
they’d never stand for it, except in professional wrestling
One more thing: If we get President Pence for the next year, it won’t be any worse than now.
re: #113 Charles Johnson
I think he’s reached his risk tolerance. He may also think that there’s nothing in the transcript that will be bad, or that it’s so bad that any attempt to stonewall would end him as well (he’s up for reelection).
There’s no altruism, let alone moral thing going there - it’s a pure political play. He’s stumbled into doing the right thing because every other option would be bad for him politically.
There’s gonna be so much Sharpie on that transcript tomorrow.
— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) September 24, 2019
re: #118 Belafon
One more thing: If we get President Pence for the next year, it won’t be any worse than now.
And I can only imagine that anything that involves Trump will wrap Pence into it. He’s not some idle spectator in all of this after all.
I’m interested in a dog that didn’t bark: if Biden did use his position as VP to squelch a Ukrainian investigation of his son, that would be a violation of *US* law. So why isn’t Barr investigating? Was he asked? And if so, what did he reply?
re: #110 Eclectic Cyborg
Which I am sure the Dems are prepared for. You don’t have to be very smart at all to know they’d go there.
last impeachment. there arent a lot. it’s obvious
re: #113 Charles Johnson
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Is McConnell starting to get cold feet?
It’s not as if it would actually be difficult for Republicans to get rid of Trump. Bounce him out on his ass via the 25th amendment and have Pence take over.
Trump cultists would be outraged, of course, but what are they really going to do? Vote D?
A really good impeachment story could have splash damage in the R Senate, and the GOP will not put up with that.
Her pendulum must have started pointing to “IMPEACH.” https://t.co/55BgFRz3gG
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 24, 2019
re: #118 Belafon
One more thing: If we get President Pence for the next year, it won’t be any worse than now.
Yeah. I think we underestimated just how bad Trump himself is.
re: #113 Charles Johnson
‘actively involved’
so you knew. or should have known.
Hmmm. https://t.co/T4GwYh4gvW
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 24, 2019
re: #122 garzooma
I’m interested in a dog that didn’t bark: if Biden did use his position as VP to squelch a Ukrainian investigation of his son, that would be a violation of *US* law. So why isn’t Barr investigating? Was he asked? And if so, what did he reply?
Freepers are asking themselves the same question. It’s because of the Deep State. Glad I could help.
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re: #128 calochortus
You mean the DeEp StAte controls BARR???!!
re: #121 Citizen K
And I can only imagine that anything that involves Trump will wrap Pence into it. He’s not some idle spectator in all of this after all.
ive lost my timeline for the day though i thought i read something about pence also talking to ukraine directly about the $400m
re: #124 EPR-radar
It’s not as if it would actually be difficult for Republicans to get rid of Trump. Bounce him out on his ass via the 25th amendment and have Pence take over.
Trump cultists would be outraged, of course, but what are they really going to do? Vote D?
A really good impeachment story could have splash damage in the R Senate, and the GOP will not put up with that.
25th Amendment requires the Cabinet, and all the “grownups” are gone now. That, and I’m not even sure how many are Senate confirmed, and Trump would surely raise a stink about that, because it’s a loophole.
re: #126 Blind Frog Belly White
Yeah. I think we underestimated just how bad Trump himself is.
If Satan existed and came up from Hell to ruin the US as its president, it’s difficult to think of what The Father of Lies would do in office that would be worse than what Trump has already done.
Lol. Watch your Senator scurry now that the tide seems to be turning, Colorado.
Abandon ship! https://t.co/MoH9U2rdC0— Kaz Weida (@kazweida) September 24, 2019
It’s going to be a real GOP courage eruption from here on out.
— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) September 24, 2019
re: #122 garzooma
I’m interested in a dog that didn’t bark: if Biden did use his position as VP to squelch a Ukrainian investigation of his son, that would be a violation of *US* law. So why isn’t Barr investigating? Was he asked? And if so, what did he reply?
cause there’s no there, there.
from electoral-vote.com this am:
On top of that, it wasn’t just Joe Biden who thought that Shokin had to go. As Anders Aslund, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council explained to the Wall Street Journal, “The whole G-7, the IMF, the EBRD, everybody was united that Shokin must go, and the spokesman for this was Joe Biden.” And finally, for the Biden conspiracy to be true, Barack Obama would have to have been a willing participant. This is the same man who ran one of the most remarkably scandal- and corruption-free presidencies in memory.
In summary, one can look askance at Hunter Biden, who may have traded on his familial connections to claim a handsome salary from a shady Ukrainian company. However, there is no evidence that Joe Biden’s actions vis-à-vis Shokin were undertaken to help his son, or had any other corrupt intent. In fact, there’s an argument that getting rid of Shokin actually put Hunter Biden at greater legal risk, since an honest prosecutor was more likely to turn the screws on Burisma than a dishonest one.
re: #134 jaunte
It’s going to be a real GOP courage eruption from here on out.
Cards on the table boys, what do ya got?
re: #131 Blind Frog Belly White
25th Amendment requires the Cabinet, and all the “grownups” are gone now. That, and I’m not even sure how many are Senate confirmed, and Trump would surely raise a stink about that, because it’s a loophole.
Good point. Trump does have the kind of low cunning that would make having a cabinet full of his toadies to prevent a 25th amendment removal a top priority.
That’s too bad for the GOP. If they want to get rid of Trump, they are going to have to provide votes in the Senate for this.
re: #124 EPR-radar
It’s not as if it would actually be difficult for Republicans to get rid of Trump. Bounce him out on his ass via the 25th amendment and have Pence take over.
Trump cultists would be outraged, of course, but what are they really going to do? Vote D?
.
Just not vote at all, which would really damage the electoral dynamic.
In 2016, the GOP could count on that 30% of hard core support to get out there and vote come hell or high water
re: #129 jaunte
You mean the DeEp StAte controls BARR???!!
I guess he just can’t stand up to the powerful cabal that controls our country, try as he might. And, there’s so much ebil going on that even Super Trump can’t do everything.
Everybody is aware that Trump is trying to pull the same shit with this transcript that he pulled with Barr’s “summary” of the Mueller report, right?
Cool. I knew you were.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 24, 2019
re: #141 Charles Johnson
Everybody is aware that Trump is trying to pull the same shit with this transcript that he pulled with Barr’s “summary” of the Mueller report, right?
Cool. I knew you were.
He is just handing out his list of talking points to Fox and the rest of the RW media
re: #138 EPR-radar
Good point. Trump does have the kind of low cunning that would make having a cabinet full of his toadies to prevent a 25th amendment removal a top priority.
That’s too bad for the GOP. If they want to get rid of Trump, they are going to have to provide votes in the Senate for this.
re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Just not vote at all, which would really damage the electoral dynamic.
In 2016, the GOP could count on that 30% of hard core support to get out there and vote
If the GOP establishment completely turns on Trump (e.g., has Fox News change its tune, provides votes in the Senate for removal from office), that 30% would scream about it loud enough to be heard at the opposite end of the galaxy.
Then 95%+ of them will dutifully vote R in the next general election.
So the GOP will lose a few votes, which will hurt. But the big money guys in the GOP have to be seeing that this kind of blatant corruption is bad for business and bad for the image of the GOP as a whole. After all, Trump is busily proving every liberal criticism of the GOP is true, past the ability of most both-siderists to deny.
So IMO the removal of Trump from office via impeachment is completely impossible, unless it become totally inevitable. I.e., the Nixon pattern, on steroids.
Translating BresSpeak: Pelosi is asking the six investigating committees (incl. Judiciary, Intel, Oversight, Fin. Services, Ways &Means, Foreign Affairs) to lay out their best evidence of impeachable offenses and transmit to the Judiciary Committee for formal consideration.
— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) September 24, 2019
Gin, lime, bitters, and peach liqueur. We call it (waitforitwaitforit) The ImPeachment. pic.twitter.com/tBCVq24rAs
— KJ Charles (@kj_charles) September 24, 2019
re: #144 EPR-radar
If the GOP establishment completely turns on Trump (e.g., has Fox News change its tune, provides votes in the Senate for removal from office), that 30% would scream about it loud enough to be heard at the opposite end of the galaxy.
Then 95%+ of them will dutifully vote R in the next general election.
So the GOP will lose a few votes, which will hurt. But the big money guys in the GOP have to be seeing that this kind of blatant corruption is bad for business and bad for the image of the GOP as a whole. After all, Trump is busily proving every liberal criticism of the GOP is true, past the ability of most both-siderists to deny.
So IMO the removal of Trump from office via impeachment is completely impossible, unless it become totally inevitable. I.e., the Nixon pattern, on steroids.
i agree with the bold
w/r/t removal, let’s remember. impeachment is a multi-step process. the trial and vote are the end. we dont ever have to get there. meanwhile, the hearings and investigations will (likely) produce quite a lot all by themselves.
re: #147 HappyWarrior
I feel good about this.
while no one knows what it’s going to look like; what’s going to be included or not, there is no stopping it now. they are definitely going there.
I believe that Pelosi has been waiting for Trump to give the Dems the rope to hang himsekf. Not a coincidence this decision by Pelosi comes after his Biden game.
By the way, I don’t feel embarrassed about criticizing Pelosi for waiting so long. That’s how democracy is supposed to work - we let our elected representatives know how we feel about stuff, even if it’s anger and frustration. ESPECIALLY if it’s anger and frustration.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 24, 2019
re: #151 Charles Johnson
The time for impeachment has come, and waited for a long while, and driven around the block, and come by again, and waited some more, and gone for some coffee, and come by again, and rung the doorbell a few times, and knocked on the door, and peeked in the windows, and https://t.co/TQeM1Gvx6L
— Celeste Ng (@pronounced_ing) September 24, 2019
The Ukraine thing is a big fucking deal because it shows what he’s willing to do. Trump will regret the Ukraine move.
re: #153 HappyWarrior
Trump doesn’t know how to show regret, let alone feel regret.
He will go down slinging bulkshit, because that’s what he does.
re: #151 Charles Johnson
I don’t mind the anger and frustration, just as long as it doesn’t lead to people feeling defeated and giving up.
omg…CSPAN just showed the press PRESSING trump and melanoma about Ukraine, Iran, impeachment…and Moron was all NOTHING TO SEE HERE!!!
BUT BIDEN AND HIS SON ARE THE REAL STORY!!!
re: #154 lawhawk
Trump doesn’t know how to show regret, let alone feel regret.
He will go down slinging bulkshit, because that’s what he does.
True.
Pelosi has told democrats they’re moving to impeach the president.
— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) September 24, 2019
Clearly my sister’s paycheck is more important than the world her three adopted kids will inherit. I can no longer apologize for a sibling who I no longer recognize. I can and will continue to call out the monstrous behavior and the bully commentary born out of anger. https://t.co/afrSuraQqt
— Curtis Ingraham (@CurtisIngraham1) September 24, 2019
OK, I’m off to lie down for a while. I had my second (and last!) Shingrix vaccine yesterday, and just like with the first one, I’m so tired I could die. This time I have some bonus muscle aches too. Fortunately, it should be pretty much done by tomorrow and then my odds of getting shingles will be low. Not that I couldn’t manage to get it, but I’m doing what I can.
Which leaves only the flu vaccine. I’ll get that next week, but I don’t expect a reaction other than a sore injection site. I feel safe, healthy, or maybe just old.
Catch you all later.
wanna see the power of voting?
Imagine if the Dem’s didn’t have the house now.
re: #160 Thanos
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Laura loves bullying kids. Makes me wonder about what kind of mother she is.
re: #153 HappyWarrior
The Ukraine thing is a big fucking deal because it shows what he’s willing to do. Trump will regret the Ukraine move.
i want you to put in a system to record all the conversations in the oval office.
if we keep it a secret, how could we possibly get hurt?
What is this ‘hotlined??’ Trying to kill it? Or letting it go through?
MCCONNELL has hotlined the resolution calling for the release of the whistleblower report. Schumer asking for unanimous consent for its passsage.
— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) September 24, 2019
re: #38 Shropshire Slasher
They did, you jackass.
re: #159 Charles Johnson
i feel better.
y’all?
Pelosi has told democrats they’re moving to impeach the president.
— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) September 24, 2019
re: #166 makeitstop
As in fast tracking it to get it through. McConnell caved.
The Democrats shouldn’t make the mistake of focusing _everything_ on the Ukraine business. Trump has done MUCH more that meets the standard for impeachable acts. It would be a mistake to focus too narrowly.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 24, 2019
” We have made the experiment of self-government work. We’ve always been a beacon to other countries. We know who Donald Trump is. It’s time we let the world know who we are.”
.@JoeBiden on impeachment: “If the Pres. continues to obstruct Congress and flaunt the law… Congress will have no choice but to initiate impeachment. That would be a tragedy, but a tragedy of his own making.” - Watch full statement: https://t.co/Pp8bJbmtFV pic.twitter.com/Fj4LgelRAQ
— CSPAN (@cspan) September 24, 2019
re: #166 makeitstop
What is this ‘hotlined??’ Trying to kill it? Or letting it go through?
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re: #169 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
As in fast tracking it to get it through. McConnell caved.
If that’s the case, McConnell’s only doing it to save his own ass, not because it’s the right thing.
re: #169 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
As in fast tracking it to get it through. McConnell caved.
He might be just letting it go through so the Senate can kill it.
Typical Moscow Mitch. I can’t even trust him when he appears to be doing the right thing.
It passed by unanimous consent. Meaning every Senator supported it.
— Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) September 24, 2019
As seen at Balloon Juice:
The Leopard and The Turtle
A Fable
A Turtle, having been flipped onto his back by Political Winds, whimpered piteously until he was discovered by a Leopard.
“Please Leopard,” the Turtle implored. “Flip me back onto my proper position and I’ll see that you are amply rewarded next election!”
The Leopard thought upon this for a moment, then stepped closer and nuzzled the Turtle’s underbelly with his snout. “Your offer is tempting,” he replied. “But I prefer my meals to be immediate, rather than dependent on election cycles.”
And when the Leopard was done feasting, he flipped the empty shell over, so as to be a good sport about the thing.
re: #169 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
As in fast tracking it to get it through. McConnell caved.
The Republican-led Senate >https://t.co/fkSxDlV0E3
— Jonathan Martin (@jmartNYT) September 24, 2019
re: #177 Stanley Sea
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‘Sense of the Senate’ = non-binding.
Still. Trump must be getting chills right now.
re: #170 Charles Johnson
There will be chapters of impeachment, but they have at least 5 counts to work with - and more like 10 broad categories of criminal acts. See my 31 above.
Each one of those has multiple subparts, but any is sufficient to find for charges to pass through to the Senate to act on removal.
Man, this shit is happening fast and furious now.
re: #180 Eclectic Cyborg
Man, this shit is happening fast and furious now.
No. That’ll be Hannity’s focus tonight….
re: #178 makeitstop
‘Sense of the Senate’ = non-binding.
Still. Trump must be getting chills right now.
Huge. https://t.co/kGWFtvBRHO
— George Conway (@gtconway3d) September 24, 2019
I tend to go look & see what George the 3rd says.
re: #180 Eclectic Cyborg
Man, this shit is happening fast and furious now.
“We were an overnight success, after many years of work.”
And of course, right after I tweet that I turn on cable news and there’s a panel saying it’s very important to focus narrowly on Ukraine and not bring everything else in. LOL.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 24, 2019
re: #136 DangerMan
cause there’s no there, there.
from electoral-vote.com this am:
Sure, but would Barr say that?
Now that Trump is promising some kind of bullshit transcript it’s the perfect time for someone to leak the full IG complaint and the raw audio of the phone call between him and Zelensky.
Sweep the leg— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) September 24, 2019
re: #170 Charles Johnson
The Democrats shouldn’t make the mistake of focusing _everything_ on the Ukraine business. Trump has done MUCH more that meets the standard for impeachable acts. It would be a mistake to focus too narrowly.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 24, 2019
this is true
too much would not be a good thing either.
people will tune it out and not hear anything.
and the really ‘good’ allegations will get tainted by the harder to understand/explain/prove ones.
to actually get him out, there’s a middle way / sweet spot. just enough. incontrovertible.
another approcach might be to create a totally comprehensive list of impeachable offenses. that could take years to investigate of course. it would certainly be front and center for a year and a half. and would never reach the senate. best of both worlds?
re: #180 Eclectic Cyborg
Man, this shit is happening fast and furious now.
its too slow, it’s too fast. you guys are never satisfied //
re: #186 garzooma
Sure, but would Barr say that?
oh absolutely not.
to him you gotta say: if biden committed a crime why arent you doing anything about it?
This whole thing of reminds me of a Tubes song lyric from “White Punks on Dope”:
Hang myself if I get enough rope…
Trump was *always* going to go too far and get caught. He was always going to self-immolate.
Well, he has, he got caught, and he’s dead meat.
This. Is. A. Damn. Good. Day. For. America.
re: #187 goddamnedfrank
fuck the leg
crane kick him in the face for the win
Now that Trump is promising some kind of bullshit transcript it’s the perfect time for someone to leak the full IG complaint and the raw audio of the phone call between him and Zelensky.
Sweep the leg— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) September 24, 2019
She’s a Republican, she’s a homophobe and she supports Assad. How many times we gotta say it. https://t.co/WuKiqN9cwU
— Delonté Donray ➒ (@dilemmv) September 24, 2019
Mitch McConnell is calling the whistle blower resolution brought by Schumer a “made for TV moment”..
good fucking grief
Oh, but at least one person here should be relieved…
re: #43 Shropshire Slasher
The Republicans were powerless after impeachment, and Clinton was untouchable after that. All impeaching Trump will do is empower his base. I’m all for impeachment, this is absolutely fascinating to watch.
Now do Nixon.
re: #185 Charles Johnson
The problem with the emoluments clause is that Congress is supposed to advise, and since they didn’t seem to care for two years, it can be interpreted as them giving concent.
Some of the other stuff can be brushed off as being before his time in office.
The Ukraine thing, on the other hand, is using his presidential power for his own goals. That’s specific enough for even the people in the back rows to understand.
re: #173 makeitstop
He might be just letting it go through so the Senate can kill it.
Typical Moscow Mitch. I can’t even trust him when he appears to be doing the right thing.
Voting it down vs obstructing it himself. He’s not saving face. He’s saving his job because he knows his supporters want it voted down. Party before country.
Oh shut the fuck up, Tulsi.
We’re already divided enough. Impeachment might just help bring some of us together again.
re: #180 Eclectic Cyborg
True- and yet there is a part of me that’s screaming, “Faster, you idiots! Faster!
It’s unreasonable, I know, but…
Meanwhile, the racism never ends… https://t.co/8iCqIyNSWr
— Peter Daou (@peterdaou) September 24, 2019
I give it 24 hours before Trump starts to throw people around him under the bus by saying he relied on his advisors and therefore couldn’t be at fault even if something was wrong.
— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) September 24, 2019
re: #25 jaunte
Why are you so pathetic? We both have the same degree (BA Government from UT Austin) except I received mine when you were two years old. This is yet another day ending in Y where I’m mortified to have gotten a Texas education because of the likes of YOU!
— Dee “Nice is not my middle name” Holmes (@mmmirele) September 24, 2019
.@SpeakerPelosi announcement on impeachment proceedings – LIVE NOW: https://t.co/JJL99jfIBm pic.twitter.com/NAPJjeptIj
— CSPAN (@cspan) September 24, 2019
re: #205 mmmirele
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You jumped the shark when you chose Trump over your country jackass.
I need a good impeachment theme song - any ideas?
re: #60 Belafon
You’re flailing. We get it. You’re not the first Republican to come in here, think you can support Trump, and think you can keep it under wraps. It would probably work if it had been President Cruz or President Kasich. But Trump, supporting him blindly will get you trapped because he represents the logical conclusion of all of the GOP positions.
For me, it’s the constant posts to Fox “News” and the Daily Fail articles.
Where’s that bottle of UBeGone?
re: #207 HappyWarrior
You jumped the shark when you chose Trump over your country jackass.
And, unfortunately for you, your ski fell off your tow rope just broke.
re: #182 Stanley Sea
trump has been zugzwanged*
Huge. https://t.co/kGWFtvBRHO
— George Conway (@gtconway3d) September 24, 2019
*saw this word used somewhere today.
if it was here, then apologies
if not, zugzwanged
a situation found in chess and other games wherein one player is put at a disadvantage because they must make a move when they would prefer to pass and not move. The fact that the player is compelled to move means that their position will become significantly weaker.
Nancy stresses that the moron said that “Article 2 says I can do whatever I want”
She says it’s BETRAYAL BETRAYAL BETRAYAL
And she announces an Impeachment Inquiry and she quotes Paine.
re: #199 Eclectic Cyborg
Oh shut the fuck up, Tulsi.
We’re already divided enough. Impeachment might just help bring some of us together again.
dont prosecute the guy who started the race riots. we’re too divided as it is.
re: #38 Shropshire Slasher
Why didn’t the Republicans impeach Clinton after he won his second term?
How are you this fucking stupid?
and she quotes Franklin and heads of every committee and specific committee members for their “thoughtful approach” to this.
And here we are
re: #208 Eclectic Cyborg
I need a good impeachment theme song - any ideas?
Well, there’s one that goes
Nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah, hey hey, goodbye.
re: #211 DangerMan
trump has been zugzwanged*
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*saw this word used somewhere today.
if it was here, then apologies
if not, zugzwanged
It was featured in a series of episodes of Criminal Minds…bad guy played by Mark Hamil…
BREAKING: Speaker Nancy Pelosi just announced that House democrats will begin an official impeachment inquiry into the actions of President Donald J. Trump.
A week ago, Pelosi didn’t even use the word impeachment. Since then, her hand has been forced by fellow Democrats.— David Begnaud (@DavidBegnaud) September 24, 2019
Looks like it’s on.
Didn’t we all know that when the fat orange tyrant lost his usefulness to the R’s they would turn on him? He did and they did. FOT gave them the perfect out with his ridiculously arrogant stupidity with Ukraine.
He’s such a dumb orange bitch.
re: #218 nicdanger
It was featured in a series of episodes of Criminal Minds…bad guy played by Mark Hamil…
cant watch that
too creepy for me to think there are people like that
(i think i read it in a tweet posted on politicalwire.com this morning)
re: #221 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
mrs dm: her hand wasnt forced. a door was opened by trump himself.
BREAKING: Speaker Nancy Pelosi just announced that House democrats will begin an official impeachment inquiry into the actions of President Donald J. Trump.
A week ago, Pelosi didn’t even use the word impeachment. Since then, her hand has been forced by fellow Democrats.— David Begnaud (@DavidBegnaud) September 24, 2019
re: #122 garzooma
I’m interested in a dog that didn’t bark: if Biden did use his position as VP to squelch a Ukrainian investigation of his son, that would be a violation of *US* law. So why isn’t Barr investigating? Was he asked? And if so, what did he reply?
Barr is more corrupt than trump. In a different way, yes, but absolutely 100% corrupt.
re: #125 Charles Johnson
Someone’s feeling left out and has a need for some publicity.
re: #226 MsJ
Barr is more corrupt than trump. In a different way, yes, but absolutely 100% corrupt.
Barr is a Mob Lawyer. Nothing more.
Barr’s loyalty to Trump (the Family) is his primary concern. He undoubtedly let Trump know this before his DOJ appointment. He is Duvall’s Thomas Hagen in real life.
The Law, the Constitution and common decency or ethics do not enter the picture at all. The only thing greater than loyalty to Trump may be his own sense of self-preservation. …maybe. Trump represents 35% of the country. Barr is the Mob Lawyer who will do and say anything to get his client off the hook.
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They Were Desperate to Get Pregnant. Then IVF Gave Them Extra Embryos. One morning last spring, Ashley Harrolle put her 1-year-old daughter down for a nap and went to the kitchen. She pulled up her fertility clinic’s contact information. It was time to make the call. In a freezer several hundred ... Cheechako
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ... Cheechako
