The Bob Cesca Podcast: Total Power

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Total Power — [Explicit Content] Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; Bernie Sanders and Barack Obama endorse Joe Biden; The Biden-Bernie livechat video; The most unspooled Trump Show ever; Trump declares himself to have ‘total power’; Trump was cocaine-angry; Small government states’ rights conservatives must be very confused today; Trump’s propaganda video violated campaign finance laws; CBS’s Paula Reid was a juggernaut; Trump and Mutiny On The Bounty; With music by The Bitter Elegance and Matt Jaffe; and more!

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421 comments
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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2020 • 9:31:03pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2020 • 9:36:03pm
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Ace Rothstein  Apr 14, 2020 • 9:36:17pm

Look at that miserable bastard. Better yet, don’t.

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2020 • 9:38:48pm

re: #2 teleskiguy

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 14, 2020 • 9:39:04pm

re: #29 Belafon

I know you guys aren’t angry enough:

Left hanging on the last thread:

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹🏡

I wonder how many rural Internet connexions we could fund here if we sold off a few of her yachts?

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Dread Pirate  Apr 14, 2020 • 9:43:02pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 14, 2020 • 9:44:00pm

Shit just keeps getting better and better.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 14, 2020 • 9:45:04pm

re: #6 Dread Pirate

The poll image of that tweet got truncated, you’ll have to click the image to see the chart.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 14, 2020 • 9:46:55pm

Listening to the local “classic rock” station when we were in Scottsbluff today, they had an interesting program for their regular advertisers.

Businesses which are still open may advertise normally at the rate they normally pay.

Businesses which are shut down by the governor’s executive orders may run an equal number of adverts they normally pay for gratis, to tell their customers they are closed or how to contact them (and thanking their customers).

I thought that was a nice gesture by the radio station.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 14, 2020 • 9:49:22pm

re: #64 Joe Bacon 🌹

Motivational speaker.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 14, 2020 • 9:50:18pm

Never fails. HP printer dies the day after the warranty expires…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 14, 2020 • 9:57:02pm

re: #74 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Republicans for the Rule of Law

The “no true Republican” tap dancing is all over that thread.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 14, 2020 • 9:57:34pm

re: #11 Joe Bacon 🌹

Never fails. HP printer dies the day after the warranty expires…

You didn’t remove the “warranty timer” chip.

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 14, 2020 • 9:58:31pm

Straight out of the Stalinist Personality Cult Playbook.

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plansbandc  Apr 14, 2020 • 10:02:47pm

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 14, 2020 • 10:05:48pm

I spent the evening making myself another mask, this one in gold from an old shirt. Still kind of sketchy, but an imptovement over my first effort.

Note to glasses wearers: I put two tucks in it on either side of the nose, and it seems to have solved the steamed glasses problem — or mitigated it, at least. Which means it’s also keeping exhalations in.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 14, 2020 • 10:11:50pm

It has arrived.

PPHD gives case update, first positive in Morrill County (Goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald, more at the link):

Offiicals confirmed the first positive for COVID-19 in Morrill County, a woman in her 70s.

One new case has been announced in Cheyenne County, bringing the total cases there to three. The new case involves a man in his 60s.

Two new cases were also confirmed in Scotts Bluff County: both female, one in her 40s and the other in her teens.

Earlier in the day, the district had also announced a third case, a teenaged boy who had been confirmed as having a positive test during National Guard testing last week. He had been identified as a close contact of a previously positive case. His close contacts have been notified and quarantined.

Scotts Bluff County has now reported a total of 17 positive cases of the coronavirus.

In the PPHD area, 32 cases of the coronavirus have been reported. Ten people have recovered.

Contact tracing has begun in my county.

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Belafon  Apr 14, 2020 • 10:19:07pm
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Dread Pirate  Apr 14, 2020 • 10:19:14pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 14, 2020 • 10:20:04pm

re: #14 DodgerFan1988

Straight out of the Stalinist Personality Cult Playbook.

What memo line? I don’t recall seeing a memo line on a Treasury cheque before. Is he going to have Steve Mnuchin redesign the cheques?

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fern01  Apr 14, 2020 • 10:30:47pm

re: #20 Anymouse 🌹🏡

What memo line? I don’t recall seeing a memo line on a Treasury cheque before. Is he going to have Steve Mnuchin redesign the cheques?

Needs must - trump can get anyone to redesign anything if it means a campaign ad for trump. It also means those that need the money the most will wait the longest. Seen as a benefit by the GOP.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 14, 2020 • 10:35:35pm

Had not seen this elsewhere

“… Defense Health Agency officials on Monday advised military beneficiaries who take Zantac, also known as ranitidine, for heartburn, ulcers or gastroesophageal reflux disease, to speak with their doctors to switch prescriptions. Those using an over-the-counter version should stop taking it.

The announcement follows an order from the Food and Drug Administration to manufacturers April 1 to withdraw all prescription and over-the-counter ranitidine products amid concerns that an ingredient has been linked to cancer.

According to the FDA, an impurity in Zantac called N-nitrosodimethylamine, or NDMA, “increases over time, and when stored at higher than room temperatures may result in consumer exposure to unacceptable levels of this impurity.” …”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 14, 2020 • 10:38:58pm

re: #21 fern01

Needs must - trump can get anyone to redesign anything if it means a campaign ad for trump. It also means those that need the money the most will wait the longest. Seen as a benefit by the GOP.

If he does this, can I take a black marker to his memo line?

In case you were wondering, there is now a category at Pornhub for “coronavirus porn” (you weren’t wondering). Don’t blame me, that’s just research.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 14, 2020 • 10:44:18pm
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fern01  Apr 14, 2020 • 10:49:22pm

re: #23 Anymouse 🌹🏡

If he does this, can I take a black marker to his memo line?

In case you were wondering, there is now a category at Pornhub for “coronavirus porn” (you weren’t wondering). Don’t blame me, that’s just research.

I definitely wasn’t wondering. Amazing the time we have for “research” at the minute.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 14, 2020 • 10:57:56pm

Xuefei Yang - Uma Vals e Dois Amores by Dilermando Reis

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Dread Pirate  Apr 14, 2020 • 10:59:14pm
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DodgerFan1988  Apr 14, 2020 • 11:05:45pm

So Trump is going to ask the men who ruined baseball, basketball, football, hockey, and wrestling to ruin America also.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 14, 2020 • 11:08:53pm

re: #28 DodgerFan1988

It the circus guys in the “bread and circuses” part of Trump’s vision of empire.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 14, 2020 • 11:09:22pm

Possibility of losing my Internet service, you lucky devils.

…WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM WEDNESDAY EVENING THROUGH
THURSDAY AFTERNOON…

* WHAT…Heavy snow possible. Total snow accumulations of 6 to
10 inches possible.

* WHERE…Portions of Southeastern Wyoming and the southern half
of the Nebraska Panhandle.

* WHEN…From Wednesday evening through Thursday afternoon.

* IMPACTS…Travel could be very difficult to impossible
Wednesday evening through Friday morning. Plan on travel
delays and snow covered roads.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS…Any outdoor enthusiasts should exercise
caution and plan their trips accordingly as moderate to heavy
snow may limit visibility causing one to become disorientated
quickly.

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CleverToad  Apr 14, 2020 • 11:11:12pm

re: #16 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

I spent the evening making myself another mask, this one in gold from an old shirt. Still kind of sketchy, but an improvement over my first effort.

Note to glasses wearers: I put two tucks in it on either side of the nose, and it seems to have solved the steamed glasses problem — or mitigated it, at least. Which means it’s also keeping exhalations in.

Hmm, will have to try the tuck method for reducing the fog effect — everyone I’m making masks for wears glasses, myopia runs in the family. Also saw this advert for a ‘Fog-Fender’ mask that claims to address the problem. (No idea if it works)

coloruplife.com

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 14, 2020 • 11:14:25pm

In other words they’ve learned nothing and are still more interested in covering their own asses than coming up with a feasible long term plan.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 14, 2020 • 11:21:34pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 14, 2020 • 11:25:12pm

Your flying dog video for the evening (0:03)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 14, 2020 • 11:26:33pm

re: #11 Joe Bacon 🌹

Never fails. HP printer dies the day after the warranty expires…

I assume it has a built-in warranty chip…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 14, 2020 • 11:29:25pm

re: #16 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

I spent the evening making myself another mask, this one in gold from an old shirt. Still kind of sketchy, but an imptovement over my first effort.

My new mask

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 14, 2020 • 11:41:12pm

re: #34 Anymouse 🌹🏡

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 14, 2020 • 11:42:30pm

re: #36 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The should give you a good 6 centimeters of social distancing

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 14, 2020 • 11:44:42pm

re: #38 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

The should give you a good 6 centimeters of social distancing

doesn’t need a strap…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 14, 2020 • 11:46:42pm

Already a better Wednesday

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 14, 2020 • 11:48:06pm

Coronavirus: Landlord changes locks on California church after pastor intends to continue services (KCRA-TV)

The church in question is Cross Culture Christian Center in Lodi, California. They intended to defy California’s ban on large gatherings and hold a Palm Sunday service after being warned by health officials and police.

As a result, their landlord, Bethel Open Bible Church, changed the locks.

Now, Cross Culture is suing Bethel claiming a civil rights violation by that church.

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A Three Hour Tour  Apr 14, 2020 • 11:55:28pm

re: #4 teleskiguy

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I feel your pain. In the real world, I share my name with our mad would-be Mussolini, Moronicus Rex.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 14, 2020 • 11:55:32pm

re: #41 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Now, Cross Culture is suing Bethel claiming a civil rights violation by that church.

Civil rights = the right to be uncivil

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 14, 2020 • 11:56:53pm

re: #42 A Three Hour Tour

I feel your pain. In the real world, I share my name with our mad would-be Mussolini, Moronicus Rex.

We named our son Donal, back in 2006, back when a Trump Presidency was nothing but a vague joke.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 15, 2020 • 12:03:13am
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Jay C  Apr 15, 2020 • 12:04:42am

First World problems, I guess: one of my neighbors seems to have fallen asleep with the TV on (and I hope it’s as benign an issue as that, vs. say “dropping dead from COVID-19” ), and the acoustic anomalies here in our cutting-edge-of-contemporary-architecture building have made sure our apartment gets the sound in nice and clear as well. Which is why I get to surf LGF at 0300….

re: #22 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

This is pretty old news: I recall hearing negative recc about ranitidine at least a year ago over the “storage” issue, wonder why DoD is just getting around to pulling it only now?

re: #40 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Yes, any fundraising advantage for Senate races is good news: but it’s still way too early to get too excited: the Ds need to pick up at least 5 seats for a Majority - and with today’s political map, that’s a real uphill climb.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 12:05:29am

Is her brother named Mike Hunt?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 15, 2020 • 12:07:06am

State Senator Kate Bolz (D—District 29) is running to unseat US Rep. Jeff Fortenberry (R-NE1)

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2020 • 12:10:09am

If you go to my Twitter, I’ve linked about a dozen Peter Steele songs from his bands Carnivore and Type O Negative.

Saw Type O Negative twice in my teens. The first time I saw them was at Ogden Theater in Denver. On the same night right next door at The Fillmore Auditorium Bob Dylan was playing. Peter made fun of the audience, “You guys came here to see us dirtbags when you could be next door watching Bob Dylan!” he crooned. I still laugh when I think about that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 12:13:45am

re: #48 Anymouse 🌹🏡

State Senator Kate Bolz (D—District 29) is running to unseat Rep. Jeff Fortenberry (R-NE1)

I like Bolz

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 15, 2020 • 12:15:04am

re: #50 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I like Bolz

LOL

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Dread Pirate  Apr 15, 2020 • 12:16:01am
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 15, 2020 • 12:22:19am

More COVID-19 economic fallout - in this case, the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic might prove to have been the final nail in the coffin.

J.C. Penney Co Inc is exploring filing for bankruptcy protection after the coronavirus pandemic forced the U.S. retailer to temporarily shut its 850 department stores, upending its turnaround plans, according to people familiar with the matter.

The Plano, Texas-based company has access to enough cash to survive in the months ahead, even as revenue dries up because of the store closures, the sources said. Still, the company is contemplating a bankruptcy filing as one way to rework its unsustainable finances and save money on looming debt payments, which include significant annual interest expenses, the sources added.

Concerns about prolonged store closures and customers remaining sparse even when outlets eventually reopen have also factored in to J.C. Penney’s deliberations, some of the sources said.

J.C. Penney has not made any final decisions on how to address its strained finances, the sources said. The retailer is also considering asking creditors for breathing room through transactions that would rework debt outside of bankruptcy court proceedings, the sources added. There is also a possibility that J.C. Penney will be able to secure rescue financing, one of the sources said.

reuters.com

I expect what’s left of Sears will probably follow suit in the near future.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 15, 2020 • 12:26:28am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 15, 2020 • 12:28:26am

Steve Erdman (R-District 47) is my state senator.

Lots of people dragging Erdman and Halloran in Sen. Morfeld’s thread.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 15, 2020 • 12:35:13am

re: #54 Dread Pirate

Kaitlin Bennett’s bio on Twitter:

Kevin Clancy cheated on his pregnant wife

Who’s Kevin Clancy? And so did Trump. What’s her point here?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 15, 2020 • 12:45:54am

The convention in Germany my wife and I was registered for in Germany is officially cancelled tonight.

It is rescheduled to June 4-7, 2021.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 12:48:42am

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹🏡

The convention in Germany my wife and I was registered for in Germany is officially cancelled tonight.

It is rescheduled to June 4-7, 2021.

Look forward to seeing you next year in June…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 15, 2020 • 12:53:29am

re: #58 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Look forward to seeing you next year in June…

We look forward to seeing you as well. (You’ll be the third LGF person we’ve met after Cheechako and Ipsos, we’ll collect the whole set /s.)

Hopefully by then they will have re-opened the Canadian border so we can get to the airport (my wife won’t fly out of Denver if you put her in a packing crate).

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 15, 2020 • 1:19:27am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 1:24:30am

re: #60 Ace-o-aces

Continuing evidence that Real Candace O does not understand the concept of “contagious disease”.

This obsession with the concept of unlimited “personal freedom” combines with ignorance of science to create a critical mass of toxic derp.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 15, 2020 • 1:25:54am
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Targetpractice  Apr 15, 2020 • 1:26:14am

re: #18 Belafon

[Embedded content]

South Carolina dumped the “electability” argument in a ditch and Super Tuesday put two rounds in the back of its head. After that night, all we heard was excuses, self-pitying, and conspiracy theories. Bernie got knocked to the mat and he never recovered. Every time a new marker was set, a new state pointed to as the win that would lead to his comeback, Biden won it and won it convincingly.

A campaign geared to win no more than 30% of the primary votes was never going to win the presidency.

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EPR-radar  Apr 15, 2020 • 1:40:36am

re: #32 goddamnedfrank

Trump: “Who wants to jump on this live grenade for me?”

Even the professional fuckwits that Trump surrounds himself with are going to have trouble with that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 1:41:37am

re: #64 EPR-radar

Trump: “Who wants to jump on this live grenade for me?”

Even the professional fuckwits that Trump surrounds himself with are going to have trouble with that.

“I am facing the most important decision of my life, which is why I will need someone to blame if it turns out disastrous!”

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Targetpractice  Apr 15, 2020 • 1:48:50am

re: #64 EPR-radar

Trump: “Who wants to jump on this live grenade for me?”

Even the professional fuckwits that Trump surrounds himself with are going to have trouble with that.

“This is an important mission! One that will define my presidency! That’s why I need you guys to walk point and take the first shots.”

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EPR-radar  Apr 15, 2020 • 1:56:59am

re: #66 Targetpractice

“This is an important mission! One that will define my presidency! That’s why I need you guys to walk point and take the first shots.”

If Trump were capable of writing a book, he could write the complete opposite of Profiles in Courage with an awesome level of subject matter expertise.

Who better than Trump to analyze case studies of leaders defecating in panic and running away as their only strategy in adversity?

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2020 • 2:21:14am

Just checked my bank account. $1,200 was deposited into it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 15, 2020 • 2:40:56am

re: #68 teleskiguy

Just checked my bank account. $1,200 was deposited into it.

We have to wait on a cheque signed by Pumpkin Pinochet.

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Targetpractice  Apr 15, 2020 • 2:56:05am

As I watch the fratricide tearing apart what remains of the Berner ranks, I found myself experiencing a horrifying thought: Imagine if these fuckers had succeeded and won the nomination. Or worse, that they’d actually managed to win the presidency and the personal grievances they’re currently taking out upon each other were backed by government force.

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ericblair  Apr 15, 2020 • 2:56:37am

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹🏡

We have to wait on a cheque signed by Pumpkin Pinochet.

If anyone didn’t have a refund in 2018 or 2019 tax years, there’s supposed to be a Get My Payment ‘app’ (I guess webpage) that comes online Friday to register your bank account number so you can get it electronically instead of waiting for the super-exclusive personally signed premium paper copy from the yam. Details here.

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Targetpractice  Apr 15, 2020 • 2:59:39am

We’ll know the day that the paper checks start arriving, because you’ll see MAGAts posting pics of them with their “autographed” checks. And even some of the richer fuckers making a big show of framing theirs’ to hang up on the wall.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 3:00:19am

re: #70 Targetpractice

As I watch the fratricide tearing apart what remains of the Berner ranks, I found myself experiencing a horrifying thought: Imagine if these fuckers had succeeded and won the nomination. Or worse, that they’d actually managed to win the presidency and the personal grievances they’re currently taking out upon each other were backed by government force.

Again, there are true believers, idealists who really thought that Bernie could somehow win the Presidency and singlehandedly change the face of American politics, society and the economy. Some have shown a bit of sense and decided to support the DNC nominee, others were just born to whine.

And then there were a lot of ratfuckers, either foreign trolls or domestic, who only wanted to see Bernie nominated because it was believed (in my opinion correctly) that he would be easier to beat than Biden.

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Targetpractice  Apr 15, 2020 • 3:04:45am

re: #73 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Again, there are true believers, idealists who really thought that Bernie could somehow win the Presidency and singlehandedly change the face of American politics, society and the economy. Some have shown a bit of sense and decided to support the DNC nominee, others were just born to whine.

And then there were a lot of ratfuckers, either foreign trolls or domestic, who only wanted to see Bernie nominated because it was believed (in my opinion correctly) that he would be easier to beat than Biden.

At this point, I think “Berner” could best be described as applying to those “true believers” who are acting like the last hold-outs of a dying regime, ready to charge the guns and die honorably than admit they failed. The MAGAts are already beginning to drop the act, while those who’ve chosen to support Biden are making pretty clear they want no part in the settling of scores.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 3:07:31am

re: #74 Targetpractice

At this point, I think “Berner” could best be described as applying to those “true believers” who are acting like the last hold-outs of a dying regime, ready to charge the guns and die honorably than admit they failed. The MAGAts are already beginning to drop the act, while those who’ve chosen to support Biden are making pretty clear they want no part in the settling of scores.

Biden was not my first choice of candidate but I’ll certainly support him without reservation.

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Targetpractice  Apr 15, 2020 • 3:09:53am

re: #75 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Biden was not my first choice of candidate but I’ll certainly support him without reservation.

He really wasn’t mine either. And whatever good Bernie does, I will still nurse a grudge over his insistence on running when he could have easily let Warren be the standard-bearer for the progressive left this year. But Biden is ticking a lot of the boxes I like to hear in a presidential candidate, one of the bigger ones being pragmatic and willing to listen to all sides even if he doesn’t agree with them. That’s a guy I think will do well in what’s looking to be a caretaker government for the next 4 years.

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ericblair  Apr 15, 2020 • 3:12:27am

re: #74 Targetpractice

At this point, I think “Berner” could best be described as applying to those “true believers” who are acting like the last hold-outs of a dying regime, ready to charge the guns and die honorably than admit they failed. The MAGAts are already beginning to drop the act, while those who’ve chosen to support Biden are making pretty clear they want no part in the settling of scores.

I’d follow the money as well. There are going to be the Sirotas and BrieBries who used the Bernie campaign as their lunch ticket while pursuing their true life’s calling of being abusive assholes online. There are also going to be the hangers-on who are paid by different domestic and foreign sources to ratfuck.

Of course, there are enough loonies who just want to spit venom and watch the world burn for free, as well.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 15, 2020 • 3:23:03am

re: #44 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We named our son Donal, back in 2006, back when a Trump Presidency was nothing but a vague joke.

Well if you’re a fan of the Dorsai series, you can always claim you named him after Donal Graeme.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 15, 2020 • 3:23:16am

re: #6 Dread Pirate

45% approve of Trump’s handling of the Coronavirus? What is there to approve of? He has mishandled this crisis in every imaginable way.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 15, 2020 • 3:23:41am

re: #22 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Had not seen this elsewhere

[Embedded content]

There’s already ambulance chaser lawyer commercials on various cable channels asking you to call xxx number if you have had cancer and had taken the drug at any time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 3:24:48am

re: #78 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Well if you’re a fan of the Dorsai series, you can always claim you named him after Donal Graeme.

Don’t know that, just used the Gaelic variant as we did with our daughter Mairi.

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steve_davis  Apr 15, 2020 • 3:28:23am

re: #46 Jay C

First World problems, I guess: one of my neighbors seems to have fallen asleep with the TV on (and I hope it’s as benign an issue as that, vs. say “dropping dead from COVID-19” ), and the acoustic anomalies here in our cutting-edge-of-contemporary-architecture building have made sure our apartment gets the sound in nice and clear as well. Which is why I get to surf LGF at 0300….

This is pretty old news: I recall hearing negative recc about ranitidine at least a year ago over the “storage” issue, wonder why DoD is just getting around to pulling it only now?

Yes, any fundraising advantage for Senate races is good news: but it’s still way too early to get too excited: the Ds need to pick up at least 5 seats for a Majority - and with today’s political map, that’s a real uphill climb.

If you’ve got a window ac unit, put it in “fan” mode. if it has a “high” setting, click on that. what i eventually did years ago was buy a floor fan. went on amazon and looked for reviews designating a fan the loudest thing people had ever heard. bought that. it won’t cut through absolutely everything, but it cuts through enough to make apartment life bearable.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 15, 2020 • 3:31:22am

re: #71 ericblair

If anyone didn’t have a refund in 2018 or 2019 tax years, there’s supposed to be a Get My Payment ‘app’ (I guess webpage) that comes online Friday to register your bank account number so you can get it electronically instead of waiting for the super-exclusive personally signed premium paper copy from the yam. Details here.

I filed a zero income tax form last week to give the IRS my current mailing address.

There’s no way I want to give them the details of my savings account. With the grifters in our government now, I wouldn’t be suprised if they instead emptied my account out.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 3:32:43am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 15, 2020 • 3:33:04am

re: #68 teleskiguy

Just checked my bank account. $1,200 was deposited into it.

Still waiting. Also still waiting for NV. to start paying unemployment. They sent the debit card, but that’s about it.

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Disloyal Archangel  Apr 15, 2020 • 3:33:40am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 15, 2020 • 3:38:16am

re: #79 Patricia Kayden

45% approve of Trump’s handling of the Coronavirus? What is there to approve of? He has mishandled this crisis in every imaginable way.

They’re being told by Fox that Trump is succeeding despite the WHO, China, Democrats, Europe, state governors, scientists, health experts, Obama, history, intelligent thought, CDC, “fake news media”, and COVID-19 all trying to bring him down.

(And I bet on the side they are being told that the virus is killing lots of black and brown people.)

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ericblair  Apr 15, 2020 • 3:40:05am

“Instead of pissing on the carpet, my cat should use his awesome physical coordination to manually pilot this Cessna.”

At this point, it can only be some self-deluded desperate need to pretend that the worst excuse for a human being on this planet is capable of doing one of the most complex jobs on this planet. The only thing he could say to improve anything is “I quit.” Fucking people.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 15, 2020 • 3:41:25am

CL’d a few threads back but COVID-19 in Chester County, PA roughly running like Anymouse is reporting for Nebraska as a whole.

Positive cases: 636 (+6 new)*
Deaths: 20 (+3 new)
About 4000 tests out of a 525,000 population.

* - Positive case curve doubling in about 7-8 days. Which appears to be flattening out somewhat.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 3:53:45am

re: #88 ericblair

“Instead of making foolish constitutional claims, President Trump should use an awesome power his predecessors have wielded: the pulpit,”

He understands the bully part of “bully pulpit”

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 15, 2020 • 3:56:38am

re: #84 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

“…his serial exaggerations”, eh?

More like Trump’s unending tsunami of lies and delusions of grandeur.

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John Hughes  Apr 15, 2020 • 3:59:26am

re: #2 teleskiguy

You know the jokes about Trump “defunding” WHO?

Well, the first one is that it US contributions are only a bit over $400 million dollars a year. The Bill & Melinda Gates foundation pays over $200 million. That’s right, a private body is paying half what the US government pays.

And the second part of the joke is that the US doesn’t even pay all the money it owes, it’s about two years in arrears for its assessed contributions.

There are proposals in the EU parliament that the EU step up with 500 million EUR of emergency funding for WHO. More than total US contributions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 4:01:34am

re: #92 John Hughes

You know the jokes about Trump “defunding” WHO?

Throwing tantrums at everyone who does not go along with Trumps version of events is considered one of the things that Makes America Great Again

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 15, 2020 • 4:01:58am

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹🏡

I filed a zero income tax form last week to give the IRS my current mailing address.

There’s no way I want to give them the details of my savings account. With the grifters in our government now, I wouldn’t be suprised if they instead emptied my account out.

I wouldn’t do it because everything they do is fucked up and the thought of putting bank info in their hands feels more like handing it over to the dark web.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 15, 2020 • 4:04:39am

I realise that the Internet serves as a poor physician in diagnosing something, but damn, I’ve been going downhill rapidly since this afternoon.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 15, 2020 • 4:08:31am
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 15, 2020 • 4:11:32am

Trump should be signing the death certificates since he’s insisting on having his signature on the stimulus checks. Just imagine the outcry on the right if President Obama had done the same with his stimulus.

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John Hughes  Apr 15, 2020 • 4:16:22am

re: #60 Ace-o-aces

Well, technically HPV is a communicable disease, not contagious I think. (AFAIK you can’t get it off toilet seats).

But COVID-19 is definitely contagious.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 15, 2020 • 4:17:10am

Weeeeee….

First, the US Food and Drug Administration relaxed its rules, and now companies can sell antibody tests without submitting validation data that shows they actually work.

Perfect.

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John Hughes  Apr 15, 2020 • 4:19:34am

re: #68 teleskiguy

Just checked my bank account. $1,200 was deposited into it.

Did the deposit come directly from Donald Trump? If no somebody is going to get fired.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 15, 2020 • 4:23:13am

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 15, 2020 • 4:28:14am

re: #36 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My new mask

I cut a few from an old tee shirt. They are serviceable I guess. Def not hospital worthy.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 15, 2020 • 4:30:23am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 15, 2020 • 4:31:33am

Always follow the money:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 15, 2020 • 4:36:07am

Florida deems WWE pro-wrestling ‘essential business’ amid coronavirus pandemic

Initially, WWE was not designated as an essential business which meant the company would have to comply with the governor’s shelter-in-place order, Demings said. However, after the company, led by chairman and CEO Vince McMahon, had “some conversation” with DeSantis’ office, the company was granted the distinction, according to Demings.

According to a memo from DeSantis’ office on April 9, essential workers in Florida included “employees at a professional sports (league) and media production with a national audience — including athletes, entertainers, production team, executive team, media team and any others necessary to facilitate including services supporting such production — only if the location is closed to the general public.”

The memo is dated the same day that McMahon’s pro-Trump super PAC announced a $26.6 million investment in broadcast TV ad buys set to run in the fall in the battleground states of North Carolina and Florida.

Always follow the money.

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ericblair  Apr 15, 2020 • 4:53:34am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 4:59:32am

re: #14 DodgerFan1988

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Straight out of the Stalinist Personality Cult Playbook.

idiot doesnt realize he’s not a signatory on the US Treasury so it’s gonna be in the ‘memo’ - you know on the lower left that no one uses, reads or cares what other people write there

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 4:59:40am

re: #106 ericblair

So, if, as projected, 60,000 people die of COVID-19 in the US, it is fair to say that 54,000 of them could have been saved if the WH required social distancing policies on March 2. That’s the number of lives we lost in the Vietnam war.

Although I find these points valid, they are hardly worth bringing up.

The most important points to bring up are

He called it a “Democratic hoax”

He said it would go away “like a miracle”

He promised that anybody who needs a test could get one.

Just keep hammering those points. Everything that he has said or done since needs to be heard and seen in the light of those statements.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:04:23am

re: #108 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Although I find these points valid, they are hardly worth bringing up.

The most important points to bring up is that

He called it a “Democratic hoax”

He said it would go away “like a miracle”

He promised that anybody who needs a test could get one.

Just keep hammering those points. Everything that he has said or done since needs to be heard and seen in the light of those statements.

Yup. No political system manned and run by humans can react that fast. Concentrate on the obvious fuckups, not couddabeens.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:06:07am

re: #109 Decatur Deb

Yup. No political system manned and run by humans can react that fast. Concentrate on the obvious fuckups, not couddabeens.

Those are clear and blatant fuckups that no amount of spin or rationalizing/relativizing can fully cover. Fully in context and dated. And they are simple enough for anyone to grasp.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:09:02am

re: #110 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Those are clear and blatant fuckups that no amount of spin or rationalizing/relativizing can fully cover. Fully in context and dated. And they are simple enough for anyone to grasp.

Uhh…we were agreeing. And you vastly overrate the grasp of the assembly at an Alabama barbershop.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:11:55am

re: #63 Targetpractice

South Carolina dumped the “electability” argument in a ditch and Super Tuesday put two rounds in the back of its head. After that night, all we heard was excuses, self-pitying, and conspiracy theories. Bernie got knocked to the mat and he never recovered. Every time a new marker was set, a new state pointed to as the win that would lead to his comeback, Biden won it and won it convincingly.

A campaign geared to win no more than 30% of the primary votes was never going to win the presidency.

the ‘electability’ argument is a dumb one
the issue really isnt who would do better against the other team’s guy
it’s who are more of us going to vote for
and that doesnt change much between primary and the general

as you say, if you cant win the primary the idea that you’d still somehow be stronger against the other team is really ludicrous

its that same bizzaro “if only everyone would just vote for me in the primary, i’d win and that is what makes me more electable in the general”

but they didnt.
you lost.
so by your own definition you’re not more electable.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:13:25am

re: #68 teleskiguy

Just checked my bank account. $1,200 was deposited into it.

ditto.
*2 for married
son of a bitch it worked.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:14:15am

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹🏡

We have to wait on a cheque signed by Pumpkin Pinochet.

it wont be signed by him
it’ll just have his name printed on it in a meaningless and insignificant way

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:15:27am

re: #111 Decatur Deb

Uhh…we were agreeing. And you vastly overrate the grasp of the assembly at an Alabama barbershop.

There are people who will refuse to grasp no matter how clear.

The point is not to even enter into any debate that be spun down a rathole, because that is their go-to defense when you corner them with facts that make their Leader look bad.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:15:49am

re: #112 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

They were going for the same thing that happened to them. If they prevail, even on the basis of a plurality, then those who drop out will rally around them moving forward on the basis of unity against Trump; e.g. “vote blue no matter who”.

Of course, once the drop-outs started rallying around Biden instead the massive whining commenced. Not helped by the venom that had already been tossed out about various voting blocks in the Democratic Party, “the establishment”, etc. And few should have been surprised that a proclaimed outsider did not draw party loyalty, especially given his previous record from 2016.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:18:52am
“There’s an understandable tendency for pundits to hedge their analysis of the 2020 presidential race, given how Trump’s 2016 victory upended so much conventional wisdom at the time. But the reality is that, absent a speedy V-shaped economic turnaround by the fall, Trump is now a decided underdog for a second term.”

national journal

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:20:10am
“The U.S. still can’t perform many of the public health measures we’d need in order to keep coronavirus infections tightly contained in a reopened economy,” Axios reports.

“Extreme social distancing has bought us some time, but much of the country still lacks some of the critical systems needed to handle waves of new infections once those restrictions begin to lift.”

“We would need to be testing people who aren’t exhibiting any symptoms — not limiting tests to the sickest patients… We would need thousands of health care workers across the country to track down, test and potentially isolate people who have interacted with confirmed coronavirus patients.”

iow
we’ve barely got a bandage on the wound
it’s still bleeding uncontrollably
but yeah - ‘walk it off’

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:21:01am

Politico: “The number of coronavirus tests analyzed each day by commercial labs in the U.S. plummeted by more than 30 percent over the past week, even though new infections are still surging in many states and officials are desperately trying to ramp up testing so the country can reopen.”

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:23:13am

re: #105 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Florida deems WWE pro-wrestling ‘essential business’ amid coronavirus pandemic

Always follow the money.


Florida’s governor keeps hitting new lows in the battle against coronavirus

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:24:41am

re: #117 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

“There’s an understandable tendency for pundits to hedge their analysis of the 2020 presidential race, given how Trump’s 2016 victory upended so much conventional wisdom at the time. But the reality is that, absent a speedy V-shaped economic turnaround by the fall, Trump is now a decided underdog for a second term.”

And that shows Trump’s myopia and tunnel vision: he was totally fixated on the simple formula of strong economy = re-election that he could only see the Corona crisis as a threat to that and did all he could to dismiss it and play it down.

He totally failed to see that people would have rallied around a President who showed decisive, determined leadership and supported him even if the economy took a hit as a result.

Because he has no concept of leadership nor does he have the ability to provide it.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:25:05am

re: #119 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Politico: “The number of coronavirus tests analyzed each day by commercial labs in the U.S. plummeted by more than 30 percent over the past week, even though new infections are still surging in many states and officials are desperately trying to ramp up testing so the country can reopen.”

For honest technical reasons and for deeply dishonest political reasons, all US data on CV19 is highly suspect, and will remain so. It suits the White house to keep it that way, no matter the cost.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:26:12am

re: #110 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Those are clear and blatant fuckups that no amount of spin or rationalizing/relativizing can fully cover. Fully in context and dated. And they are simple enough for anyone to grasp.

so, at least i thought was ‘do us a favor though” //

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:27:22am

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are people who will refuse to gasp no matter how clear.

The point is not to even enter into any debate that be spun down a rathole, because that is their go-to defense when you corner them with facts that make their Leader look bad.

i totally refuse to gasp

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Disloyal Archangel  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:27:51am
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:28:11am

More fallout:

The closure of the Czech restaurant market for three months will also have an adverse impact on microbreweries. The owners will have to sell or close them. According to the president of the Czech-Moravian Association of microbreweries Jan Suran, up to 40 percent of microbrewery owners have decided to liquidate. This worsened his March estimate that a quarter of owners would be forced to give up their business. According to the sector union, the state did not help, and many of the beer producers expected a relaxation of emergency measures earlier. According to Suran, it is practically the targeted liquidation of the industry.

Yep…looks like the end of the road for a lot of small businesses here in Czech Republic. It really doesn’t help that the PM, Andrej Babiš, is notoriously anti-small business (he believes that all small businesses are parasites and he’s in favor of monopolism).

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Decatur Deb  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:28:28am

re: #124 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

i totally refuse to gasp

More of a gaper, myself.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:28:34am

re: #122 Decatur Deb

For honest technical reasons and for deeply dishonest political reasons, all US data on CV19 is highly suspect, and will remain so. It suits the White house to keep it that way, no matter the cost.

Trump signaled early on that he was willing to fudge statistics to improve the optics Remember “I like the figures where they are right now”?, and as a result, a lot of people in places of authority are simply following his lead.

Sick fuckers all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:29:35am

re: #124 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

i totally refuse to gasp

It’s all right now, in fact it’s a “grasp”…

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:30:25am

re: #116 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

They were going for the same thing that happened to them. If they prevail, even on the basis of a plurality, then those who drop out will rally around them moving forward on the basis of unity against Trump; e.g. “vote blue no matter who”.

Of course, once the drop-outs started rallying around Biden instead the massive whining commenced. Not helped by the venom that had already been tossed out about various voting blocks in the Democratic Party, “the establishment”, etc. And few should have been surprised that a proclaimed outsider did not draw party loyalty, especially given his previous record from 2016.

oh sure

if you can weave a 30% path, win the nom and then get everyone to coalesce around you, that would have proved to be a great strategy.

if you cant even manage step one, then you are not the most electable

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Alephnaught  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:36:15am

(The replies to this are also good.)

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:37:23am

re: #130 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

The strategy was very very dependent on there being multiple candidates opting to stay in for the long haul where they would continue to divide the vote and allow a plurality to triumph. (Possibly a bit of projection that staying in as a gadfly would remain a productive course for the other candidates?)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:39:19am

re: #131 Alephnaught

Me: I love pastry
Person on Twitter: I see that you like pastry and that’s fine but also I wondered if you ever knew that pastry was responsible for a murder in 1977 when someone set a sausage roll on fire which caused a fatality so you’re basically condoning murder here’s a link

I recall Lee Harvey Oswald protesting “I’m just the pastry here!”

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lizardofid  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:39:58am

re: #114 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

it wont be signed by him
it’ll just have his name printed on it in a meaningless and insignificant way

Indeed. Like a child’s name scrawled in crayon, on the living room wall.

Oh, good morning everyone!

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Decatur Deb  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:40:27am

The people stuffing data into the daily reports and the published models are collecting it from several hundred international bodies and 60 or so US agencies. All of them are using unique rule sets/recording schedules. If you stare at the charts funny, you can see something of a weekend effect.

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jeffreyw  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:40:42am

Good morning!

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Dave In Austin  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:50:57am
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Mike Lamb  Apr 15, 2020 • 5:54:04am

re: #126 Dr Lizardo

More fallout:

Yep…looks like the end of the road for a lot of small businesses here in Czech Republic. It really doesn’t help that the PM, Andrej Babiš, is notoriously anti-small business (he believes that all small businesses are parasites and he’s in favor of monopolism).

Don’t think I have ever heard of someone being anti-small business.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 6:06:24am

re: #138 Mike Lamb

Don’t think I have ever heard of someone being anti-small business.

In the sense of favoring large banks and businesses over small ones. The GOP positions itself as being pro-small business, but their overall plan is to make those businesses fully dependent on banks and large corporations, like nearly every farmer in America.

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lawhawk  Apr 15, 2020 • 6:09:05am

re: #54 Dread Pirate

Hey, where the white women at? Staying at home instead of voting? Yeah, that’s a hot take there gun girl. Why don’t you follow that advice. If you think women are too emotional to vote, maybe they’re too emotional to own, let alone carry, a gun.

Fuck these people are stupid.

But there’s stupid all over the place these days.

And I had to chuckle with my response to a different post:

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 15, 2020 • 6:09:25am

re: #138 Mike Lamb

Don’t think I have ever heard of someone being anti-small business.

Yeah, Babiš definitely is. He views small businesses as entirely unnecessary; in his view, it’s the giant conglomerates and monopolies that will provide all needed goods and services.

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mmmirele  Apr 15, 2020 • 6:11:54am

re: #22 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Had not seen this elsewhere

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This has been going on since last September. The thing is, the FDA is not, at least from looking at their press releases, forcing a recall, only requesting. My brother was taking ranitidine (Zantac) up until last September and stopped taking it then. Finding a replacement has been something of a crapshoot.

fda.gov

Thing is, from what I read, it doesn’t appear to be the drug itself that is the issue. The issue appears to be in the process that makes the drug. Which means that this same issue could possibly show up in other drugs.

popsci.com

I’m not sure what I’d do if I found out that very expensive drug I just shelled out $622.24/90 days was recalled. I think I might completely lose my shit. Oh yeah, it’s also an acid reflux medication.

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lawhawk  Apr 15, 2020 • 6:12:46am

Biden’s gotten the trifecta of endorsements this week.

Bernie, then Obama, and now Warren.

Biden had been working with all three to set the order of endorsements and when they’d be announced. So everyone was already working behinds the scenes. This is Democrats in array.

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lawhawk  Apr 15, 2020 • 6:16:09am

re: #142 mmmirele

Apparently, they’ve found that the active medication in zantac (ranitidine) doesn’t react well to warm temperatures, and can become carcinogenic.

There’s a reason why people are told not to store drugs in the bathroom medicine cabinets (but do anyways). This absolutely sucks for so many people, since this is a useful medication, but because people don’t store them properly, it can cause cancer.

I’m surprised that they’re not indicating that you should store it in a refrigerator, but I’m not an expert here (and don’t intend to play one on the twitters… )

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lizardofid  Apr 15, 2020 • 6:17:03am

re: #141 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, Babiš definitely is. He views small businesses as entirely unnecessary; in his view, it’s the giant conglomerates and monopolies that will provide all needed goods and services.

Just “the party will provide” in a nicer suit?

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2020 • 6:22:37am

re: #34 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Your flying dog video for the evening (0:03)

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It’s the tail.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 15, 2020 • 6:24:38am

re: #145 lizardofid

Just “the party will provide” in a nicer suit?

Exactly.

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ericblair  Apr 15, 2020 • 6:26:36am

re: #145 lizardofid

Just “the party will provide” in a nicer suit?

My guess is that most authoritarian regimes try to marginalize and eliminate small businesses for a couple of reasons. These regimes are patronage systems, where everyone important formally or informally has a place in the patronage hierarchy. The big businesses will kick up to the oligarchs, and do cut-out jobs for them. In return, one of the things that the oligarchs can do is kill off the big businesses’ competition from small businesses. This also helps pull everyone into the control of the oligarchs, since they perceive anything outside the established power structure as a serious threat.

I don’t think it works that way in China, but don’t know enough about the system to know why.

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Targetpractice  Apr 15, 2020 • 6:26:51am

Kellywise was so off the rails this morning, even the F&F folks looked lost as she ranted:

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Ming5000  Apr 15, 2020 • 6:31:21am

Peter Daou’s decent into madness is shocking.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 15, 2020 • 6:37:25am

re: #141 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, Babiš definitely is. He views small businesses as entirely unnecessary; in his view, it’s the giant conglomerates and monopolies that will provide all needed goods and services.

Isn’t that kinda what Mussolini was all about for Italy back in the day?

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plansbandc  Apr 15, 2020 • 6:41:40am

re: #113 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Same here.

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Targetpractice  Apr 15, 2020 • 6:47:58am

re: #150 Ming5000

Peter Daou’s decent into madness is shocking.

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I must admit, I love that guys like Peter are making clear that reaching out to them is not only a lost cause, it’s a total waste of time that could be spent on more constructive pursuits.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 6:50:25am

re: #153 Targetpractice

I must admit, I love that guys like Peter are making clear that reaching out to them is not only a lost cause, it’s a total waste of time that could be spent on more constructive pursuits.

Like reaching out to MAGA hat-wearing Trump supporters?

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2020 • 6:51:19am

re: #113 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

ditto.
*2 for married
son of a bitch it worked.

My wife and I make enough to hit the sliding scale, so ours was about $325 less.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 15, 2020 • 6:52:31am

re: #153 Targetpractice

I must admit, I love that guys like Peter are making clear that reaching out to them is not only a lost cause, it’s a total waste of time that could be spent on more constructive pursuits.

If they were totally aware (and honest) they would stay away from electoral politics. Revolutionaries who get elected aren’t revolutioning right.

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Targetpractice  Apr 15, 2020 • 6:53:50am

re: #154 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Like reaching out to MAGA hat-wearing Trump supporters?

Yeah, it does help when they save you time and wear their stupidity on their heads.

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John Hughes  Apr 15, 2020 • 6:54:03am

re: #122 Decatur Deb

For honest technical reasons and for deeply dishonest political reasons, all US data on CV19 is highly suspect, and will remain so. It suits the White house to keep it that way, no matter the cost.

But Chyna are funny colored bad people.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 6:54:08am

re: #149 Targetpractice

Kellywise was so off the rails this morning, even the F&F folks looked lost as she ranted:

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Idiot

So windows 10 rolled out error free, right?

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Targetpractice  Apr 15, 2020 • 6:57:02am

re: #156 Decatur Deb

If they were totally aware (and hones) they would stay away from electoral politics. Revolutionaries who get elected aren’t revolutioning right.

Revolutions generally end in one of two fashions: Voices of reason stepping in and cooling the fires with moderation and compromise…or endless bloodletting as the revolutionaries turn on each other.

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2020 • 6:58:45am

re: #150 Ming5000

Peter Daou’s decent into madness is shocking.

The establishment has never seen the left as obedient. That’s why they have to work harder than Republicans to get anything done.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 15, 2020 • 6:59:59am

re: #151 Eventual Carrion

Isn’t that kinda what Mussolini was all about for Italy back in the day?

It’s typical of authoritarian leaders and their patronage style of business management.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:01:05am

re: #150 Ming5000

Peter Daou’s decent into madness is shocking.

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It’s a binary choice like it or not
Biden
Anything else

You have a choice
You may not like the options
Any spinning or pretzel logic twisting of not voting for Biden is still a vote for trump.
If you’re gonna do it, stand up and own it

Don’t look for weasel justifications of why its ok or you “have to”
You are voting for trump

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:01:39am

re: #150 Ming5000

Peter Daou’s decent into madness is shocking.

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Yes, he’s quite like Krystal Ball in that regard. And the #ThanksObama hashtag has been swallowed by bots and Bernie trolls. It’s gonna be a long summer into fall.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:02:35am

re: #164 Barefoot Grin

Yes, he’s quite like Krystal Ball in that regard. And the #ThanksObama hashtag has been swallowed by bots and Bernie trolls. It’s gonna be a long summer into fall.

Just remember that political Twitter isn’t a mirror of political reality.

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stpaulbear  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:02:37am

re: #68 teleskiguy

Just checked my bank account. $1,200 was deposited into it.

I got an auto-text from my credit union that $1200 had been deposited, but now I can’t get into their site to move the money into different accounts. I’m guessing that they’re overloaded with people trying to do the same.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:04:01am

re: #166 stpaulbear

I got an auto-text from my credit union that $1200 had been deposited, but now I can’t get into their site to move the money into different accounts. I’m guessing that they’re overloaded with people trying to do the same.

My credit union site is slow as molasses now, too (because it’s never been that great in the best of times).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:04:17am

re: #165 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Just remember that political Twitter isn’t a mirror of political reality.

The idea is to get political reality to become a mirror of Twitter…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:04:30am

re: #163 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

It’s a binary choice like it or not
Biden
Anything else

You have a choice
You may not like the options
Any spinning or pretzel logic twisting of not voting for Biden is still a vote for trump.
If you’re gonna do it, stand up and own it

Don’t look for weasel justifications of why its ok or you “have to”
You are voting for trump

Ralph Northam is signing off on the most progressive agenda a Virginia Governor has ever implemented. At one time, Virginia Republicans tried courting him to switch parties. Biden will be and happily be pushed as left as the Democratic majority in the legislature will take him imo.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:04:47am

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The idea is to get political reality to become a mirror of Twitter…

Well that ain’t happening.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:04:51am

re: #166 stpaulbear

I got an auto-text from my credit union that $1200 had been deposited, but now I can’t get into their site to move the money into different accounts. I’m guessing that they’re overloaded with people trying to do the same.

You didn’t spent it in approved ways in the first 30 nanoseconds so we took it back

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:05:59am

re: #169 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Ralph Northam is signing off on the most progressive agenda a Virginia Governor has ever implemented. At one time, Virginia Republicans tried courting him to switch parties. Biden will be and happily be pushed as left as the Democratic majority in the legislature will take him imo.

These days I’d consider moving to virginia

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Decatur Deb  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:06:59am

re: #160 Targetpractice

Revolutions generally end in one of two fashions: Voices of reason stepping in and cooling the fires with moderation and compromise…or endless bloodletting as the revolutionaries turn on each other.

The fate of Anacharsis Cloots, revolutionary extraordinaire:

Excluded at the insistence of Maximilien Robespierre from the Jacobin Club, he remained a foreigner in many eyes. When the Committee of Public Safety levelled accusations of treason against the Hébertists, they also implicated Cloots to give substance to their charge of a foreign plot. Although his innocence was manifest, he was condemned and subsequently guillotined on 24 March 1794.[4] He incongruously followed Vincent, Ronsin, Momoro and the rest of the Hébertist leadership to the scaffold, in front of the largest crowd ever assembled for a public execution.[5]

en.wikipedia.org

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:08:58am

re: #172 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

These days I’d consider moving to virginia

I’m really happy we’re taking steps moving forward. It took a product of old Virginia to implement a lot of changes. Just like it might take a political lifer like Biden to do the same in DC imo.

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John Hughes  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:09:46am

re: #125 Disloyal Archangel

f Trump died from being infected with Covid-19, would you attend his funeral? 🤔

Is PPE available?

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:14:36am

re: #175 John Hughes

Is PPE available?

You spelled pee wrong

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:18:56am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:20:48am

$20 per barrel means that Russia is not going to be able to balance its budget.

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jaunte  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:22:35am
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CleverToad  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:22:47am

re: #71 ericblair

If anyone didn’t have a refund in 2018 or 2019 tax years, there’s supposed to be a Get My Payment ‘app’ (I guess webpage) that comes online Friday to register your bank account number so you can get it electronically instead of waiting for the super-exclusive personally signed premium paper copy from the yam. Details here.

Oh crud. We filed, and our bank act info is on the form, but did not actually get refunds in 18 or 19. May have dumped us in the ‘paper check’ line.

Thanks for the warning, will watch for their ‘app’

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:24:01am

re: #178 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

$20 per barrel means that Russia is not going to be able to balance its budget.

And if gets down to $10/bbl, Russia’s in deep shit. Well, deeper shit than now, that’s for sure.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:25:59am

re: #179 jaunte

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Yeah it’s like the President has no power at all. Fuck off Kellyanne, hopefully after this you’ll be shoveling shit at the Trump Dump.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:26:55am

re: #181 Dr Lizardo

And if gets down to $10/bbl, Russia’s in deep shit. Well, deeper shit than now, that’s for sure.

Which I think is why Putin consolidated his power recently.

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unproven innocence  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:29:30am

re: #178 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

$20 per barrel means that Russia is not going to be able to balance its budget.

An extended period (years?) of low oil prices would also guarantee that most of the world’s remaining reserves would be used up quite wastefully, rather than for transitioning to long-term alternative sustainable energy sources. Double-plus ungood.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:31:22am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:33:14am

We’re not there yet, but J&J pledging to do the right thing should their Covid-19 vaccine pan out:

(via IBT) The U.S. on Tuesday was also the only country in the world to report more than 1,000 deaths. The United Kingdom (778 deaths), France and Italy came after the U.S. in the number of daily deaths. These dismal statistics came on the same day Johnson & Johnson, the world’s third largest pharmaceutical company, revealed plans to begin production of its trial COVID-19 vaccine on an “at risk” basis.

Manufacturing “at risk” will allow J&J to produce this coronavirus vaccine candidate and release it for public use more quickly. J&J said the vaccine will be produced as a not for profit inoculation.

“It’s for all of us,” said CFO Joe Wolk to Yahoo Finance. “It’s anything but business as usual. That is about advancing research and development.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:33:23am

re: #185 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

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The Buck stops here unless it’s me. His refusal to take any sort of responsibility makes me want him to suffer so much because of his actions.

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Ming5000  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:36:31am

re: #181 Dr Lizardo

And if gets down to $10/bbl, Russia’s in deep shit. Well, deeper shit than now, that’s for sure.

So, now I am thinking about levels of shit.

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:37:12am

re: #184 unproven innocence

An extended period (years?) of low oil prices would also guarantee that most of the world’s remaining reserves would be used up quite wastefully, rather than for transitioning to long-term alternative sustainable energy sources. Double-plus ungood.

It depends. If they economy stays the way it is, and people work from home more, it means less usage. Which is why gas prices are so low now in my area.

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:38:41am

re: #185 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

It’s basic duty was to make Trump look good. //

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stpaulbear  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:39:04am

re: #181 Dr Lizardo

And if gets down to $10/bbl, Russia’s in deep shit. Well, deeper shit than now, that’s for sure.

What happens if Russia calls in all of the Trump family loans?

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lizardofid  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:42:28am

re: #191 stpaulbear

What happens if Russia calls in all of the Trump family loans?

A moratorium on oil production in the US?

//

ETA: possible shooting war in Straits of Hormuz?

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:43:55am

re: #184 unproven innocence

An extended period (years?) of low oil prices would also guarantee that most of the world’s remaining reserves would be used up quite wastefully, rather than for transitioning to long-term alternative sustainable energy sources. Double-plus ungood.

Yes, remember during the Iraq-Iran war when they were both pumping and selling as much oil as they could? Cheap oil helped set back US energy conversion by at least a decade.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:44:19am
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:44:33am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:44:54am
WaPo reports……. “Trump’s advisers are trying to shield the president from political accountability should his move to reopen the economy prove premature and result in lost lives, and they are trying to mobilize business executives, economists and other prominent figures to buy into the eventual White House plan, so that if it does not work, the blame can be shared broadly, according to two former administration officials familiar with the efforts.” ….. https://www.rawstory.com/20…

It’s truly amazing that they can find anybody to back the Dear Leader on this since (a) anybody with a pulse and a functioning frontal lobe knows that a premature reopening is going to be a disaster for the country and (b) Trump never-never-ever takes responsibility for anything that fails

These fuckers

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:46:40am

re: #196 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

It’s truly amazing that they can find anybody to back the Dear Leader on this since (a) anybody with a pulse and a functioning frontal lobe knows that a premature reopening is going to be a disaster for the country and (b) Trump never-never-ever takes responsibility for anything that fails

I really wonder what sort of incentives the Trump Organization has to offer these soldiers to fall on their swords in order to protect General Bone Spurs.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:48:13am

re: #136 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

Just waiting around
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Belafon  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:48:34am

re: #196 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

They really don’t understand that if he tries to force companies to reopen, and the second wave hits, that he cannot avoid blame. He’s the f’n president.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:48:35am

re: #191 stpaulbear

What happens if Russia calls in all of the Trump family loans?

the trump empire crashes
as does russia because you know they’d default on it all

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:49:59am

re: #199 Belafon

They really don’t understand that if he tries to force companies to reopen, and the second wave hits, that he cannot avoid blame. He’s the f’n president.

It will be the fault of:

CNN
WHO
DNC
CDC
AMA
FCC
ICC
DEA
etc…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:50:59am

re: #195 goddamnedfrank

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She’s such an idiot. Another person I hope will lose their grift when Trump goes.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:51:06am

re: #141 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, Babiš definitely is. He views small businesses as entirely unnecessary; in his view, it’s the giant conglomerates and monopolies that will provide all needed goods and services.

Seems to me most of eastern Europe was trying that a few decades back. How did it work out?

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:51:10am

great story

A note for the newspaper delivery man turned into a grocery lifeline for nearly 100 people amid coronavirus

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:52:01am

re: #203 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Seems to me most of eastern Europe was trying that a few decades back. How did it work out?

I recall reading how Bulgaria has the lowest wages and the highest electricity rates in all of the EU.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:52:09am

re: #195 goddamnedfrank

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maybe candace and hubby gave it to the 12 workers

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:52:49am

re: #206 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

maybe candace and hubby gave it to the 12 workers

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She was at CPAC.

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Teddy's Person  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:52:53am

re: #150 Ming5000

Peter Daou’s decent into madness is shocking.

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The only response these folks should get is “Trump thanks you for your support.”

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:53:08am

re: #199 Belafon

They really don’t understand that if he tries to force companies to reopen, and the second wave hits, that he cannot avoid blame. He’s the f’n president.

and the lawsuits will be monumental

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Mike Lamb  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:54:56am

re: #149 Targetpractice

Kellywise was so off the rails this morning, even the F&F folks looked lost as she ranted:

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Aside from the idiocy of not recognizing that the 19 is based on the year and it doesn’t necessarily mean we identified a coronavirus in every year since 2000, it is a novel coronavirus. It might as well be COVID-1.

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makeitstop  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:54:56am

re: #207 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

She was at CPAC.

Isn’t she a RWNJ ‘star?’

Why doesn’t she get a fast track to being tested like all the other cool kids?

(I have half an idea why…)

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:55:54am

re: #208 Teddy’s Person

The only response these folks should get is “Trump thanks you for your support.”

I like the guy who responded by saying “I voted for Nader in 2000 and was therefore partially responsible for enabling a President who started an unjust war that led to the death and displacement of over 1 million people. I’m not doing that again.”

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 15, 2020 • 7:58:32am
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jaunte  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:00:24am

re: #210 Mike Lamb

The nastiest part is, it wasn’t idiocy, it was a carefully calculated lie. She planned it based on the ignorance of Trump supporters.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:00:31am

re: #208 Teddy’s Person

The only response these folks should get is “Trump thanks you for your support.”

One thing is for sure. If Biden implements a progressive agenda, Peter doesn’t get to act like assholes like him were why. I’m done criticizing Bernie but the leftist leftist than thou like Peter I hope find themselves on the outside looking in.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:02:36am

re: #213 goddamnedfrank

Perfectly summed up. 👍

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:02:57am

re: #212 Barefoot Grin

I like the guy who responded by saying “I voted for Nader in 2000 and was therefore partially responsible for enabling a President who started an unjust war that led to the death and displacement of over 1 million people. I’m not doing that again.”

I got into politics in the aftermath of that which is why I want to smack anyone who uses the stupid South Park line about turd sandwiches and giant douches. Coming from a bunch of douchecamoes who don’t care about governing and only being purer than thou is the last thing I want to hear right now.

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jaunte  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:06:06am

Border manufacturers testing, certifying ventilators and ramping up to deliver in “a couple of weeks.”

elpasomatters.org

“…Developing affordable ventilators

Innovations include manufacturing personal protective equipment and ventilators desperately needed by hospitals in both the U.S. and Mexico. Levine said several teams of manufacturers along the border are collaborating to build a new ventilator.

“We’re working with a group in Ciudad Juárez, Monterrey, Sonora and Tijuana,” she said. “We all formed a group with the advice of some researchers from MIT, some researchers from India to try to create a ventilator that can also be very affordable and easy to put together.”

On the border, companies collaborating to build the new ventilator include Flutec, an international HVAC design and build company, and Mechatronics, which specializes in “medical equipment assembly, design and testing” through robotics and artificial intelligence according to the companies’ websites. Both have operations in El Paso and Ciudad Juárez.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:07:57am

re: #213 goddamnedfrank

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I got scoffed at for supporting Biden over Bernie by a few people my age. I’m not gonna knock people who like me were teens or kids in the Bush years but I wish they would learn those lessons.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:07:58am

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Kaitlin Bennett’s bio on Twitter:

Who’s Kevin Clancy? And so did Trump. What’s her point here?

I’m sure Little Miss Gun Girl has an Adult Friend Finder account of her very own!

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John Hughes  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:10:13am

re: #176 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

No, I can supply the pee, I just want to know if I’ll be protected while pissing on his grave.

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(((Viking Sea Mexican)))  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:11:44am

re: #23 Anymouse 🌹🏡

If he does this, can I take a black marker to his memo line?

In case you were wondering, there is now a category at Pornhub for “coronavirus porn” (you weren’t wondering). Don’t blame me, that’s just research.

Well, it has been documented on regular news, I think.

Well, one line in one articule about how covid is affecting the porn industry.

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sagehen  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:13:01am

re: #197 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I really wonder what sort of incentives the Trump Organization has to offer these soldiers to fall on their swords in order to protect General Bone Spurs.

look at that, you gave Cadet Bone Spurs a promotion!! See, he really is succeeding!

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:13:26am

re: #219 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I got scoffed at for supporting Biden over Bernie by a few people my age. I’m not gonna knock people who like me were teens or kids in the Bush years but I wish they would learn those lessons.

With my son, who voted for Bernie in the primary but will vote for Biden in the general, the best conversation to have is to challenge him to figure out how we are going to get to his goals, which aren’t much different than mine, from where we are right now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:14:04am

re: #222 (((Viking Sea Mexican)))

Well, it has been documented on regular news, I think.

Well, one line in one articule about how covid is affecting the porn industry.

Rule 34 also applies to plagues…

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:14:52am

a little april 15 humor

A man, called to testify at the IRS, asked his accountant for advice on what to wear. “Wear your shabbiest clothing. Let him think you are a pauper.”
Then he asked his lawyer the same question, but got the opposite advice. “Do not let them intimidate you. Wear your most elegant suit and tie.”

Confused, the man went to his rabbi, told him of the conflicting advice and requested some resolution of the dilemma.

“Let me tell you a story,” replied the rabbi. “A woman, about to be married, asked her mother what to wear on her wedding night. ‘Wear a heavy, long, flannel nightgown that goes right up to your neck.’ But when she asked her best friend, she got conflicting advice: ‘Wear your most sexy negligee, with a V neck right down to your navel.’

The man protested, “What does all this have to do with my problem with the IRS?”
“No matter what you wear, you are going to get screwed.”

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KGxvi  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:17:33am

re: #197 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I really wonder what sort of incentives the Trump Organization has to offer these soldiers to fall on their swords in order to protect General Bone Spurs.

They don’t have any incentives, the Trump (Crime) Organization relies on marks, suckers, and people who know they wouldn’t be able to get these kinds of gigs in a “normal” administration. And, of course, there are probably a few true believers in the mix - or idiots like Pompeo who think they can survive the taint that will be the title of “former Trump Administration official”.

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jaunte  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:17:56am
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John Hughes  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:18:15am

re: #184 unproven innocence

An extended period (years?) of low oil prices would also guarantee that most of the world’s remaining reserves would be used up quite wastefully, rather than for transitioning to long-term alternative sustainable energy sources. Double-plus ungood.

That’s ass backwards.
If the price is low it’s because nobody is buying.
If nobody is buying it’s because nobody is using.
Paradoxically high “oil” prices lead to extracting and using the worst kinds of fossil fuels — American fracked oil and gas, Russian Arctic extraction and Canadian tar sands.
When the price is low the only stuff being extracted is cheap Saudi oil, and if the price is low they’re not making enough money from that to keep their theocratic kleptocracy running. Win win.

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lizardofid  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:18:45am

LOL, the first comment was “capitalist pigs”.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:18:49am

re: #224 Belafon

With my son, who voted for Bernie in the primary but will vote for Biden in the general, the best conversation to have is to challenge him to figure out how we are going to get to his goals, which aren’t much different than mine, from where we are right now.

Exactly why I’m happy that Biden and Bernie are collaborating. My problem with Bernie was mostly worrying that he would be ineffective but he’s correct about problems we face.The lessons younger people can learn is we get progress by working together and by acknowledging that all the seats.

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lawhawk  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:19:03am

re: #196 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Businesses were first to move to stop nonessential travel and to WFH. Those are part of their business continuity plans. My company did that early on, and they’ve got a worldwide presence.

They’re not going to restart before it is safe to do so, and businesses that go along with Trump on this risk losing business if people get sickened going to those businesses.

Trump’s economic collapse is all on Trump, and businesses shouldn’t be bailing out Trump. They should be demanding his resignation but wont. Because that’s not how any of them act or operate.

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jaunte  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:19:29am
“We’ve already since seen Director Maguire was fired, in the briefing that we’ve had since and in our access to information since, a real constriction of frank and candid information about what the Russians are doing…It’s already had that impact. Now even before Maguire was fired, there were materials that we had been requesting that we knew were in existence that had been compiled for us that they were refusing to turn over.” These materials, Schiff says, related to Russian efforts to intervene directly in the US election and through Ukraine”

Treason.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:20:28am

re: #217 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I got into politics in the aftermath of that which is why I want to smack anyone who uses the stupid South Park line about turd sandwiches and giant douches. Coming from a bunch of douchecamoes who don’t care about governing and only being purer than thou is the last thing I want to hear right now.

these people dont want to be part of the american political system
they dont want to be in it, use it, work it, make it better
they want something else
and that something else is not available

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KGxvi  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:20:37am

re: #226 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

a little april 15 humor

A man, called to testify at the IRS, asked his accountant for advice on what to wear. “Wear your shabbiest clothing. Let him think you are a pauper.”
Then he asked his lawyer the same question, but got the opposite advice. “Do not let them intimidate you. Wear your most elegant suit and tie.”

Confused, the man went to his rabbi, told him of the conflicting advice and requested some resolution of the dilemma.

“Let me tell you a story,” replied the rabbi. “A woman, about to be married, asked her mother what to wear on her wedding night. ‘Wear a heavy, long, flannel nightgown that goes right up to your neck.’ But when she asked her best friend, she got conflicting advice: ‘Wear your most sexy negligee, with a V neck right down to your navel.’

The man protested, “What does all this have to do with my problem with the IRS?”
“No matter what you wear, you are going to get screwed.”

I like the one about the gambler…

A man calls his tax attorney and they go to see the IRS agent. As they are waiting in the office, the IRS agent looks over his paperwork and says:

“The reason for your audit is that you have a relatively lavish lifestyle, but not much income to justify it, can you tell me what you do for living?”

The man says “I am a professional gambler.”

“A gambler?” said the IRS agent with slightly puzzled and surprised look on his face.

“Yes, I make my money by betting, would you like a demonstration?”

“Sure” said the IRS agent “let’s have a demonstration”

“I will bet you $1,000; that I can bite my eye” said the gambler.

“OK, you have a bet” replied IRS agent with a smirk on his face. The gambler pops out his glass eye and bites it. IRS agent is shocked as he did not see that coming, and he did agree to a $1,000 bet in from of gamblers attorney.

“All right, all right, this was not really fair” said the gambler. “I will give you a chance to win your money back. I will bet you another $1,000 that I can bite my other eye.”

IRS agent looks over the guys paperwork and see that he is not legally blind and takes the bet. The gambler takes out his dentures and bites his other eye. The IRS agent is now visibly stressed and sweating for being on the hook for $2,000.

“I tell you what. Double or nothing, I will stand on the edge of your desk, close my eyes and piss into the garbage can on the other side of the room without spilling a drop, what do you say?”

IRS agent is a little perplex, but does not see how that would be possible and takes the bet. The gambler stands on the agents desks, unzip his pants, closes his eyes and pisses all over the agents desk.

“YES!!!” exclaimed the IRS agent knowing he won the bet and does not own the gambler any money.

“Ahh, shiiiit” said the attorney.

“What’s the matter?” asked the IRS agent.

“Well, he bet me $20,000 that he will come to your office today, piss all over your desk, and you would be happy about it.”

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:20:48am

At this point, the hardcore TaliBern still screaming on Twitter are basically this guy

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:21:37am

re: #234 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

these people dont want to be part of the american political system
they dont want to be in it, use it, work it, make it better
they want something else
and that something else is not available

I just want them to educate themselves and not get the hot take of a jerk with a YouTube channel and agenda.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:21:58am

“Operation Gridlock” covered by Eric Llyod at twitter.com

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Teukka  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:24:40am

re: #238 Dr. Matt

“Operation Gridlock” covered by Eric Llyod at twitter.com

Giphy

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:26:02am

re: #235 KGxvi

I like the one about the gambler…

and that’s why you never bring a client you’re representing to the irs

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:28:47am

Got a reminder that Chat Noir needs a follow-up visit to the vet. Also one that Tuxedo Cat was due for vaccinations. So I called up the vet to make an appointment, and to see if they had any particular procedures in place regarding distancing. Turns out they do.

Building the vet is in has a vestibule. Procedure is to drop off the cat (in carrier) in the vestibule, withdraw, and then call the vet to indicate cat is there for the appointment. The vet (or assistant) can then fetch the cat for examination and treatment. Questions between the vet and owner carried out over phone - as well as payment once treatment is done.

Per the other cat they are suspending vaccination appointments for the foreseeable future in order to preserve supplies.

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makeitstop  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:28:58am

Excellent.

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stpaulbear  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:29:04am

re: #221 John Hughes

No, I can supply the pee, I just want to know if I’ll be protected while pissing on his grave.

They’re going to need to install a trough and a connection to city plumbing.

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KGxvi  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:29:22am

re: #238 Dr. Matt

What exactly are they trying to prove? That they can drive around in their portable social distancing pods (AKA cars)? That they’re generally assholes? Like, I get it, this sucks for everyone, but what is your alternative beyond “fuck you”?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:29:30am
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BigPapa  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:30:27am

I did another Page I’ve been simmering on a few months:
On Paul Manafort and Javelin Missiles in Ukraine

Reading the Mueller Report at the height of the Ukraine scandal gave me a sense of clarity to the depth of Russian influence on Trump through the Manafort story.

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KGxvi  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:31:31am

re: #245 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

JesusJoesphMaryMosesMohammedBuddhaVishnu it is too fucking early for this kind of bullshit.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:34:32am

re: #244 KGxvi

What exactly are they trying to prove? That they can drive around in their portable social distancing pods (AKA cars)? That they’re generally assholes? Like, I get it, this sucks for everyone, but what is your alternative beyond “fuck you”?

ARE FREEDUMZ OUR BEEING TRAMPILLED!!!

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John Hughes  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:37:52am

re: #236 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Guy’s got a better haircut than me and I’ve only been in lockdown for a month.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:38:23am

re: #245 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

So we can thank the absolutely horrible Rush Limbaugh for saving us from something even MORE horrible?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:40:20am

re: #218 jaunte

Globalists!!!!!!! //

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Dr. Matt  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:41:06am

Speaking of that fat fuck Rush….is he dead yet?

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SteelPH  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:41:55am

re: #252 Dr. Matt

Speaking of that fat fuck Rush….is he dead yet?

Cancer’s sleeping on the job.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:43:50am

re: #245 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

A radio program would be too much work for Trump. He would need material to talk about in a semi-coherent manner. No crowd to drive feedback from. And the risk of getting awful ratings since it would be easy to avoid listening to and there is no way to force MSNBC, CNN, etc. to give him coverage.

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:45:07am

re: #253 SteelPH

Cancer’s sleeping on the job.

It’s self-quarantining until this is over.

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KGxvi  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:45:21am

re: #254 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

A radio program would be too much work for Trump. He would need material to talk about in a semi-coherent manner. No crowd to drive feedback from. And the risk of getting awful ratings since it would be easy to avoid listening to and there is no way to force MSNBC, CNN, etc. to give him coverage.

He’ll take calls like Mike and the Mad Dog back in the day… you think C-SPAN callers are crazy, just wait.

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:45:43am

re: #254 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

A radio program would be too much work for Trump. He would need material to talk about in a semi-coherent manner. No crowd to drive feedback from. And the risk of getting awful ratings since it would be easy to avoid listening to and there is no way to force MSNBC, CNN, etc. to give him coverage.

“Where’s my clap track?”

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:45:56am

re: #249 John Hughes

Guy’s got a better haircut than me and I’ve only been in lockdown for a month.

Definitely in better shape than me; his workout regime must be awesome!

I keep getting into it on a Twitter with dumbass Berners. I gotta stop that. Something about their dim witted insistence upon being the most self righteous, pure expressions correct political thinking just sets me off.

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John Hughes  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:46:04am

re: #254 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

A radio program would be too much work for Trump. He would need material to talk about in a semi-coherent manner..

Dial in. Could get famous weasel hating radio host Rudy to help him too.

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KGxvi  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:46:22am

re: #248 Dr. Matt

ARE FREEDUMZ OUR BEEING TRAMPILLED!!!

I keep wanting to yell at people freaking out about this three simple words:

state
police
powers

But it would probably be lost on most of them.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:47:39am

re: #245 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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that’s not why he didnt do it
as if just his very presence would blow out limbaugh’s ratings
no - it’s because it’s an idiotic idea and everyone there knows it

the look of a president in the middle of a pandemic producing and hosting a 2 hour radio show every day? just wow.

ok, granted he is spending 2+ hours a day doing worthless, empty ‘press conferences’…

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KGxvi  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:49:08am

re: #258 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Definitely in better shape than me; his workout regime must be awesome!

I keep getting into it on a Twitter with dumbass Berners. I gotta stop that. Something about their dim witted insistence upon being the most self righteous, pure expressions correct political thinking just sets me off.

They remind me, to some degree of Libertarians (note the capital L). They type of assholes who would sell stuff at a convention and have signs that say “$5 or .05 oz of gold” or some bullshit like that.

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Teddy's Person  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:49:44am

re: #254 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

A radio program would be too much work for Trump. He would need material to talk about in a semi-coherent manner. No crowd to drive feedback from. And the risk of getting awful ratings since it would be easy to avoid listening to and there is no way to force MSNBC, CNN, etc. to give him coverage.

Plus, he doesn’t get to show his “dominance” over reporters by wagging his finger at them puffing out his chest yelling shit like “nasty question” or “I said be quiet or I’ll leave.” To us, he looks like an ass, but to his cult-followers he’s the alpha male.

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makeitstop  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:50:00am

Good endorsement video from Warren.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:50:22am

re: #260 KGxvi

These MAGAt parasites are “outraged” over stay at home orders, but completely silent as Donnie declares he has “total authority” over the entire country. Fucking white trash scum.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:50:53am

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:53:07am

re: #244 KGxvi

What exactly are they trying to prove? That they can drive around in their portable social distancing pods (AKA cars)? That they’re generally assholes? Like, I get it, this sucks for everyone, but what is your alternative beyond “fuck you”?

ask most people what they want and they cant articulate it

you’re not in jail
you’re not locked down
no one is prevented from going out
no one is prevented from shopping, getting take out etc

are they protesting there’s nothing ‘to do because restaurants, bars, malls and everything else is closed? or do they want to go back to work?

well tough.

businesses will reopen when they deem it safe and when they have a way to control and manage the inevitable spread virus, for which they will be held responsible

oh, and we’re not ever ‘getting back to normal’ whatever that was
we’re moving forward and things will be different from now on

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lawhawk  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:54:18am

Check to see if the IRS is processing your covid19 check (site overloaded, so expect to see wait).

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Dr. Matt  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:55:09am

re: #264 makeitstop

While his sentiment is appreciated, people like Joe Walsh and their extremism are the reason why we have Donnie in the White House. Once Donnie is long and gone, he and his ilk will be back to lowering the bar of decency and common sense.

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gocart mozart  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:55:33am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:57:07am

re: #269 Dr. Matt

While his sentiment is appreciated, people like Joe Walsh and their extremism are the reason why we have Donnie in the White House. Once Donnie is long and gone, he and his ilk will be back to lowering the bar of decency and common sense.

No doubt but Trump being crushed will go a long way imo.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:58:11am

re: #270 gocart mozart

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Here’s the thing. Xi and Trump are more similar than they are different and both are failures as human beings and leaders.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:59:01am

re: #63 Targetpractice

South Carolina dumped the “electability” argument in a ditch and Super Tuesday put two rounds in the back of its head. After that night, all we heard was excuses, self-pitying, and conspiracy theories. Bernie got knocked to the mat and he never recovered. Every time a new marker was set, a new state pointed to as the win that would lead to his comeback, Biden won it and won it convincingly.

A campaign geared to win no more than 30% of the primary votes was never going to win the presidency.

But 30% could win the nomination — if at least 3 other candidates remained in the race, all of whom so split the vote that 30% managed to be the largest percentage in most races. As I keep on saying, the two finalists in the first round of the Chicago race for mayor received 17.5% and 16% of the total votes. It was fortunate for the city that both of these women were highly qualified, though one had no prior experience in public office. But once there are more than 2 candidates in a race, anything can happen and it is often not anything good. Chicago lucked out. In 2016, America did not.

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William Lewis  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:59:06am

Freaking IRS website kept kicking me out. Busy? Don’t know. Went to the efile.com web site instead and filed a simple return to get my bank info in for the IRS. Hopefully it will actually work.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:59:16am

re: #272 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Here’s the thing. Xi and Trump are more similar than they are different and both are failures as human beings and leaders.

I disagree. Xi is a skilled leader, just evil. Trump is not so much evil as totally inept and easily manipulated.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 15, 2020 • 8:59:38am

So yeah criticize the PRC government but remember who was praising Xi. It was needle dick Trump who always has a kind word for tyrants and nary a kind word for democrats.

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:00:22am

re: #269 Dr. Matt

While his sentiment is appreciated, people like Joe Walsh and their extremism are the reason why we have Donnie in the White House. Once Donnie is long and gone, he and his ilk will be back to lowering the bar of decency and common sense.

Walsh, unlike some of the others (Kristol or Rubin, for instance), has asked for forgiveness for what he did to contribute to the current problem. If you go through his tweets, you will note that he’s not only not making demands of Democrats, but he’s explicitly said that he has no right to make demands, and that he will support the Democrat.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:00:23am

re: #275 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I disagree. Xi is a skilled leader, just evil. Trump is not so much evil as totally inept and easily manipulated.

Failure in the sense that he cares about his citizens’ well being.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:01:45am

re: #274 William Lewis

Freaking IRS website kept kicking me out. Busy? Don’t know. Went to the efile.com web site instead and filed a simple return to get my bank info in for the IRS. Hopefully it will actually work.

today is April 15.

many types of taxes and payments were not deferred so tax business is going on as usual

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retired cynic  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:02:09am

re: #113 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

ditto.
*2 for married
son of a bitch it worked.

I didn’t get anything. Are they doing SS folks differently?

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jeffreyw  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:02:57am

Mushroom Garden

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:03:23am

re: #280 retired cynic

I didn’t get anything. Are they doing SS folks differently?

i have no idea how they’re prioritizing

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:03:56am

re: #280 retired cynic

I didn’t get anything. Are they doing SS folks differently?

No, but they’re not rolling everything out on the same day. A friend asked me about how SS receiving payments. You will receive it the same way you receive your SS money. It just may take a different amount of time.

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jaunte  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:04:36am
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Belafon  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:05:39am

re: #284 jaunte

I will have to look at that later, but what’s in it?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:06:28am

re: #285 Belafon

I will have to look at that later, but what’s in it?

death

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:06:59am

The cruelty is the point.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:07:00am
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William Lewis  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:07:35am

re: #279 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

today is April 15.

many types of taxes and payments were not deferred so tax business is going on as usual

What I’m running into is that I can’t find last years tax form for the AGI that they want to send the stimulus. I should be able to go in and look up a transcript but that’s what keeps kicking me out. I’ll have to ping Joe Bacon later.

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:08:04am

re: #272 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Here’s the thing. Xi and Trump are more similar than they are different and both are failures as human beings and leaders.

I dunno man. I’m not sure it’s even possible to be as much of a failure of a human as Donald Trump is. I don’t know a ton about Xi Jinping as a man, but I’m pretty sure he’s nice to his family. He’s also probably pretty well read and able to function in polite society. The Chinese Communist party probably doesn’t worship incompetence and buffoonery like Republicans do - someone rude, boorish and dumb probably doesn’t make it to the top of the party. Xi Jinping may be authoritarian and thin-skinned, but I think Donald fucking Trump is in a class all on his own. Not sure we’ve seen anything like this since Caligula.

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jeffreyw  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:11:51am

re: #282 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

i have no idea how they’re prioritizing

Today, both my SS and the stimulus monies were posted, after pending for a few days in the ACH deposits column on my credit union online app. I think the SS deposit was at the regular time. My wife’s SS deposit generally posts one week later.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:12:16am

My wife is stashing the cash. She doesn’t trust that the Fed doesn’t try to take it back one way or another next year.

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jaunte  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:12:47am

re: #285 Belafon

Covid-19 deaths per million curve (angled steeply up) compared to other flus, and showing car crash deaths as a relative constant.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:13:55am

re: #292 Dave In Austin

They are taking it back. It’s an advance on your 2021 return.

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William Lewis  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:14:22am

Well I did find my W2’s for 18 and calculated an AGI from them. Hasn’t bounced back from efile yet so maybe I got it right… sigh. I’d not care but I really want to get my guitars and my Rossi 92 out of hock.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:14:43am

re: #131 Alephnaught

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(The replies to this are also good.)

heh

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William Lewis  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:15:23am

re: #294 goddamnedfrank

They are taking it back. It’s an advance on your 2021 return.

It’s not. Not sure where that urban myth started but call your congress critter and ask.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:15:40am

re: #290 Renaissance_Man

I dunno man. I’m not sure it’s even possible to be as much of a failure of a human as Donald Trump is. I don’t know a ton about Xi Jinping as a man, but I’m pretty sure he’s nice to his family. He’s also probably pretty well read and able to function in polite society. The Chinese Communist party probably doesn’t worship incompetence and buffoonery like Republicans do - someone rude, boorish and dumb probably doesn’t make it to the top of the party. Xi Jinping may be authoritarian and thin-skinned, but I think Donald fucking Trump is in a class all on his own. Not sure we’ve seen anything like this since Caligula.

Ha fair enough.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:16:00am

We here know this stuff, but a summary can be helpful.

The hypocrisy of impeached President Trump admin cutting off monies and hammering WHO over allegedly hiding or helping hide needed COVID data is awe-inspiring in scope.

Trumps Grades-Hidden.
Trumps Taxes-Hidden.
Trumps endless sequence of Acting Cabinet members, appointees and High Officials? No Senate confirmation or oversight because “acting”.
Whistleblowers-Excoriated humiliated and where possible fired along with their family members.
General Policy towards criticism-Deny, Accuse, Reverse Victim and Offender aka DARVO

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:16:54am

re: #299 Rightwingconspirator

The hypocrisy of impeached President Trump admin cutting off monies and hammering WHO over allegedly hiding or helping hide needed COVID data is awe-inspiring in scope.

Trumps Grades-Hidden.
Trumps Taxes-Hidden.
Trumps endless sequence of Acting Cabinet members, appointees and High Officials? No Senate confirmation or oversight because “acting”.
Whistleblowers-Excoriated humiliated and where possible fired along with their family members.
General Policy towards criticism-Deny, Accuse, Reverse Victim and Offender aka DARVO

It’s a culture of corruption.

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makeitstop  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:18:32am

re: #269 Dr. Matt

While his sentiment is appreciated, people like Joe Walsh and their extremism are the reason why we have Donnie in the White House. Once Donnie is long and gone, he and his ilk will be back to lowering the bar of decency and common sense.

With all due respect, I’m so goddamned tired of hearing this.

I know they’re fucking Republicans and will go back to doing what Republicans do. I fucking get it.

He and others are helping now, and that is what counts to me now. I’ll go back to disagreeing with them once the job is done. If they want to help get that fascist son of a bitch out of office, I welcome them.

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:22:53am

re: #294 goddamnedfrank

So suppose you expect (for 2020) to have $50,000 in income. That means you’d owe about $4,300 in taxes. If you paid extra each month and withheld a total of $5,300, you’d get a $1,000 tax refund.

With the CARES Act, you receive an additional “credit” for $1,200 and your tax liability is lowered from $4,300 to $3,100. Now, you would expect a $2,200 refund ($5,300 paid minus the $3,100 owed). Instead of paying you $2,200 after taxes in 2021, the IRS is sending you a $1,200 check now, so your actual refund at tax time is still $1,000.

Since this is essentially an early tax refund on taxes you will pay in 2020, you don’t have to pay it back and as Senator Dianne Feinstein’s office confirmed, it is not taxed.

They’re giving you a tax credit based on your income, and then giving you that credit up front. Part of the reason for doing this is that they are basing it on tax returns, but if you haven’t filed yet, they’re using previous years returns.

Yes, it’s got GOP fingerprints all over it, but it’s not taking all that money out of next years returns or taxes.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:23:42am

re: #292 Dave In Austin

My wife is stashing the cash. She doesn’t trust that the Fed doesn’t try to take it back one way or another next year.

you can try that but the R’s keep reminding us that money is fungible

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NetworkKed  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:24:36am

re: #301 makeitstop

With all due respect, I’m so goddamned tired of hearing this.

I know they’re fucking Republicans and will go back to doing what Republicans do. I fucking get it.

He and others are helping now, and that is what counts to me now. I’ll go back to disagreeing with them once the job is done. If they want to help get that fascist son of a bitch out of office, I welcome them.

amen

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:24:46am

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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i had the best time at breakfast reading that thread

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retired cynic  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:26:10am

Shoot. That pot of beans I wrote about yesterday has been simmering for 24 hours, and I kept adding bits of water. The beans are still almost crunchy. I soaked them for a day in salt water, because they were old, but still… Any ideas? Dump them in the pressure cooker and bring them to steam and shut them off? That’s my next plan. Thanks!

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Dr. Matt  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:26:49am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:27:31am

re: #307 Dr. Matt

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i just dont have time any more

kanye’s an idiot

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:27:52am

re: #307 Dr. Matt

Kanye West claims “it’s better now than when Obama was in office”

South park - gay fish

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:28:07am

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:28:52am

I’m so happy to absolutely not give a single shit what Kanye West thinks about politics.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:29:16am

re: #301 makeitstop

With all due respect, I’m so goddamned tired of hearing this.

I know they’re fucking Republicans and will go back to doing what Republicans do. I fucking get it.

He and others are helping now, and that is what counts to me now. I’ll go back to disagreeing with them once the job is done. If they want to help get that fascist son of a bitch out of office, I welcome them.

I don’t care. I will continue to say it over and over and over. Enemy of our enemy is not our friend. He’s still a vile, evil asshole at his core. He’s just pissed that his radicalism ran of the rails.

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makeitstop  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:30:52am

re: #312 Dr. Matt

I don’t care. I will continue to say it over and over and over. Enemy of our enemy is not our friend. He’s still a vile, evil asshole at his core. He’s just pissed that his radicalism ran of the rails.

Agree to disagree.

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makeitstop  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:31:07am

Whoa.

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(((Viking Sea Mexican)))  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:33:52am

re: #235 KGxvi

I like the one about the gambler…

Reminds me the joke about the old lady at the bank.

This old lady goes to the bank and demands to talk with a manager. The manager takes her to the office.

“Hello Mr Manager. I’d like to open a savings account in your bank.”

“Sure, no problem. But surely anyone in our front desk could have helped you.”

“See, it’s $100,000, and I would only trust a manager with that large amount.”

“Wow, amazing! If you don’t mind asking, how did you get that amount of money?”

“I don’t mind, young man. I gamble for it. For example, I bet $100,000 that your testicles are square.”

The manager laughs, but the old lady looks at him seriously. “I’m very serious about it, young man.”

“Ma’am, you are going to lose all your savings.”

“I don’t care. But can I come tomorrow with my lawyer to make everything legal.”

“No problem, ma’am. But it’s not a bet I would recommend.”

They part ways. The manager goes to his wife and tells her everything about the old lady. They have a good laugh at it and go to sleep.

The following day, the old lady arrives with her lawyer about 30 minutes before lunch. The manager takes them to his office, and as soon as the door closes, the old lady speaks.

“May I have a look?”

“Sure, but you will surely lose, ma’am.”

She insists, and he drops his pants and underwear. She gets closer, looking at it intently. She says, “May I feel them to make sure.”

“Sure ma’am,” said the manager trying to contain his grin.

As soon as the old lady grabs his jewels, the lawyer starts wailing and crying, throwing himself to the floor sobbing. The manager, startled, ask the old lady what happened to her lawyer.

“Oh, don’t worry. I bet him $250,000 that I would be grabbing you by the balls before lunch.”

😅

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:34:03am

re: #314 makeitstop

“And here we see President Trumps Coronavirus Economic Response team arriving on the tarmac…”

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:35:40am

re: #312 Dr. Matt

I don’t care. I will continue to say it over and over and over. Enemy of our enemy is not our friend. He’s still a vile, evil asshole at his core. He’s just pissed that his radicalism ran of the rails.

And we all know that. When WW2 was over, we went back to being in conflict with Stalin. But it’s as pointless repeating “OMG, they suck” as it is for us to bring up Nickelback every time Justin Trudeau does something we like.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:39:36am

Fuckheads

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Decatur Deb  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:40:01am

re: #311 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m so happy to absolutely not give a single shit what Kanye West thinks about politics.

Or music.

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Jay C  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:40:34am

re: #314 makeitstop

Whoa.

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Whoa indeed.
Surprising that even as many as 37 people were able to get away from that inferno
(Sadly, 41 did not).

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:43:20am

re: #314 makeitstop

Even though 41 onboard died, nonetheless, kudos to that air crew for managing to evacuate the surviving passengers pronto. All who perished were in the rear of the plane.

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Jay C  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:44:06am

re: #318 goddamnedfrank

Fuckheads

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Even so, I notice that even this crowd (presumably protesting MI’s lockdown rules. (?)) are keeping their “ social distance”….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:45:54am

re: #322 Jay C

I noticed that too.

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William Lewis  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:50:34am

re: #295 William Lewis

Well I did find my W2’s for 18 and calculated an AGI from them. Hasn’t bounced back from efile yet so maybe I got it right… sigh. I’d not care but I really want to get my guitars and my Rossi 92 out of hock.

Nope, no joy and the transcript site is as easy to use as it is to get truth from a Trump.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:50:48am

re: #294 goddamnedfrank

Bankrupt you now or later.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:54:22am

re: #318 goddamnedfrank

Fuckheads

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Yep.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:54:30am

Now here’s another question.

How does one send that “Stimulus” back. Like tomorrow.

I don’t want that fucking death money anywhere near me.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:55:08am

re: #327 Dave In Austin

Now here’s another question.

How does one send that “Stimulus” back. Like tomorrow.

I don’t want that fucking death money anywhere near me.

Send it to your food bank.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:55:22am

re: #308 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

i just dont have time any more

kanye’s an idiot

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Kanye’s always been an idiot.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:56:33am

re: #327 Dave In Austin

Now here’s another question.

How does one send that “Stimulus” back. Like tomorrow.

I don’t want that fucking death money anywhere near me.

Donate it to Biden and local Dems.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:56:58am

re: #328 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

I’m not saying I’m wealthy, I don’t want a “Front” on next years taxes.

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William Lewis  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:57:11am

re: #327 Dave In Austin

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KGxvi  Apr 15, 2020 • 9:57:43am

re: #313 makeitstop

Agree to disagree.

Political alliances and coalitions are sometimes fleeting. We would all do well to remember that. It is similar to what Biden meant when he talked about working with segregationists in the Senate back in the day. You might disagree with someone on 95% of things, and you might fight them tooth and nail on those things, but if you can work together on the 5% that is common ground, that’s politics. And maybe, in doing so, you might be able to get them to budge on some of that 95% where you disagree; or even (gasp and/or faint) find some of that 95% where you can compromise and move the needle a bit in the “good/better” direction.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:00:10am

re: #230 lizardofid

LOL, the first comment was “capitalist pigs”.

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U.S. hog farmers say they need federal help to stay afloat during coronavirus crisis

So do poor families. The government tells them to fuck off and pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Make some fucking bootstraps out a few of your pigs.

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William Lewis  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:02:11am

Oh goodie. The transcript website requires you to have a mortgage/cc/etc debt account to “verify” you. Bank info or a debit card not good enough. Fuck.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:02:14am

re: #328 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Send it to your food bank.

Maybe donate some to the Biden Campaign too.

EDIT: I see Decatur Deb beat me to it.

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sagehen  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:03:03am

re: #333 KGxvi

Political alliances and coalitions are sometimes fleeting. We would all do well to remember that. It is similar to what Biden meant when he talked about working with segregationists in the Senate back in the day. You might disagree with someone on 95% of things, and you might fight them tooth and nail on those things, but if you can work together on the 5% that is common ground, that’s politics. And maybe, in doing so, you might be able to get them to budge on some of that 95% where you disagree; or even (gasp and/or faint) find some of that 95% where you can compromise and move the needle a bit in the “good/better” direction.

We worked with Stalin to destroy the Nazis.

Didn’t make us forever friends.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:03:12am

re: #314 makeitstop

Whoa.

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Did everyone make it off?

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Dave In Austin  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:03:47am

...

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:04:00am

re: #267 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Oh, and we’re not ever ‘getting back to normal’ whatever that was
we’re moving forward and things will be different from now on

we are not. No matter what the final solution to dealing with SARS-CoV-2 may entai, life is going to be different. however, there will be a sub-population (say ~40%) who will do their very best to pretend. And it will be a be continuing problem.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:04:22am

re: #336 Eclectic Cyborg

Maybe donate some to the Biden Campaign too.

EDIT: I see Decatur Deb beat me to it.

By 12 years. We gave Bush’s bribe to Obama.

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retired cynic  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:05:23am

re: #291 jeffreyw

Today, both my SS and the stimulus monies were posted, after pending for a few days in the ACH deposits column on my credit union online app. I think the SS deposit was at the regular time. My wife’s SS deposit generally posts one week later.

Thanks!

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Dave In Austin  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:05:26am

I guess I’ll have to call the IRS

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BlueSpotinAL  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:05:41am

re: #338 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Did everyone make it off?

No fucking way everybody made it off that plane. Looked it up, 41 died.

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sagehen  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:05:44am

re: #338 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Did everyone make it off?

almost half did.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:06:00am

re: #197 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I really wonder what sort of incentives the Trump Organization has to offer these soldiers to fall on their swords in order to protect General Bone Spurs.

More sweet cash. More “coronavirus stimulus” to enrich the rich further. Works every time since too many corporate executives are likely to be “Ayn Rand” capitalists, who care only about their personal wealth and not the well-being of their employees or customers.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:06:00am

re: #338 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Did everyone make it off?

No. Around 40 perished I believe.

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makeitstop  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:07:46am

re: #338 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Did everyone make it off?

No. Sadly, 41 people died.

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jaunte  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:10:00am

When did these petulant whiners lose all sense of shame?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:10:39am

re: #318 goddamnedfrank

Fuckheads

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What are they protesting?

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mmmirele  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:11:57am

re: #232 lawhawk

Businesses were first to move to stop nonessential travel and to WFH. Those are part of their business continuity plans. My company did that early on, and they’ve got a worldwide presence.

They’re not going to restart before it is safe to do so, and businesses that go along with Trump on this risk losing business if people get sickened going to those businesses.

Trump’s economic collapse is all on Trump, and businesses shouldn’t be bailing out Trump. They should be demanding his resignation but wont. Because that’s not how any of them act or operate.

Even though Trump is talking about opening the economy, even though idiot GOP governors are talking about reopening the economy, my evil too big to fail employer is pushing forward with moving people home who would normally work in a call center. We’re talking thousands of people. This obviously costs money, and it blows a hole in the big push to get everyone consolidated in a relatively few sites, but it’s the smart thing to do, because we absolutely do not know how long we will be doing this.

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lawhawk  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:12:14am

re: #349 jaunte

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Interesting Times  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:13:20am
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Mattand  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:13:42am

re: #349 jaunte

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When did these petulant whiners lose all sense of shame?

Talk about timing: I was chatting with someone last night who was strongly hinting that Whitmer had MI locked down like a prison.

So, naturally, research reveals that it’s not that much different here in NJ. That freaking photo also explains a lot of the grousing from the conservative side.

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lawhawk  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:14:41am

re: #351 mmmirele

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:16:24am

I think I’ve run out of “Well, what if OBAMA had done this …?” constructs with my dimwit MAGA relatives, but here’s one for the ages:

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:17:13am

re: #352 lawhawk

Got a friend* in North Carolina who is all bitchy about access to the state parks being closed. (He likes to fish and kayak.) He is talking about joining the next protest about things being closed.

I am thinking about engaging him on the subject and perhaps explaining that part of the issue is the exposure rescue and park rangers would be undergoing if things were open, liability issues, etc. But also think I’d be banging my head against a brick wall.

* - He also didn’t vote for Hillary and went 3rd party as a “protest” since he thought she’d win anyways in 2016.

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jaunte  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:18:52am

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:18:59am

re: #258 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Definitely in better shape than me; his workout regime must be awesome!

I keep getting into it on a Twitter with dumbass Berners. I gotta stop that. Something about their dim witted insistence upon being the most self righteous, pure expressions correct political thinking just sets me off.

It may be possible to persuade those who aren’t just trolls. I was in a polite FB discussion with a die-hard Trumper (he’s an IRL FOAF — and the mutual friend had asked me months ago to be easy on this guy) who told me that he has students who are Berners. I have no doubt that he would be urging them to hold fast to their ideals.

It’s important that Berners hear the other side — how holding on to these ideals will end up losing them forever — that the right way is to vote D and then work within the party to advance your goals — that anything else is designed to promote those who will wreck any possibility of achieving those objectives. Trotsky wrote in 1933 how the failure of German communists and moderates to collaborate led to the imposition of the most evil government of the 20th century.

The policy of the Communist party has been thoroughly wrong, its leaders started from the absurd axiom that social democrats and National Socialists represented “two varieties of Fascism”, that they were, in Stalin’s formula, not opposite poles but twins”. It is undoubtedly true, that social democracy, like Fascism, stands to defend the bourgeois regime against the proletarian revolution. But the methods of the two parties are entirely different. Social democracy is unthinkable without parliamentary government and mass organizations of the workers in trade unions. The mission of Fascism, however, is to destroy both. A defensive union of Communists and social democrats should have been based on this antagonism. But blind leaders refused to take this line. The workers were left divided, defenseless, without plan or prospects, before the attacking enemy. This position demoralized the proletariat and strengthened the self-confidence of Fascism.

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SteelPH  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:19:31am

re: #353 Interesting Times

I mean, they’re not mutually exclusive…

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:19:44am

re: #131 Alephnaught

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(The replies to this are also good.)

“That pastry was culturally appropriated, and was made on stolen land! Please be more sensitive!’
—Too much of my timeline.

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jaunte  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:21:28am
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A Cranky One  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:23:01am

Been to too many executive meetings where this is also true.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:23:32am

re: #357 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Time to up the game here. It’s a public health crisis killing thousands. Start issuing fines for putting the rest of us at risk. Churches, protests etc.

The adults in the room have work to do. Work like all the stuff for work to be safe when we can get there. Which means going in to install sneezeguards, floor markings at six feet, PPE for employees, disinfection. All before we open. Make the rules print them, train on them. Then hope for the best.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:27:30am

So our stimulus payments finally showed up. It all got deposited into the spouses checking account instead of being split between hers and mine. Now we will have to go down to the bank and get my half out so I can deposit it into mine..

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:28:54am

re: #364 Rightwingconspirator

Time to up the game here. It’s a public health crisis killing thousands. Start issuing fines for putting the rest of us at risk. Churches, protests etc.

The adults in the room have work to do. Work like all the stuff for work to be safe when we can get there. Which means going in to install sneezeguards, floor markings at six feet, PPE for employees, disinfection. All before we open. Make the rules print them, train on them. Then hope for the best.

If someone dies because they can’t get to the hospital in time, charge those blocking the streets with Reckless Endangerment

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:29:15am

Update for Chester County as of April 14th.

Cases: 675 (+30)
Deaths: 23 (+3)
Tested: ~4100 (525,000 pop)

Doubling rate of cases about 8 days still.

7 of the 23 deaths and 20 current cases in one particular township. I dug a bit and there is a veterans’ center there that has 300+ people living in it. I suspect that this location might be the source of these numbers.

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William Lewis  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:29:48am

re: #335 William Lewis

Oh goodie. The transcript website requires you to have a mortgage/cc/etc debt account to “verify” you. Bank info or a debit card not good enough. Fuck.

Dig dig dig dig dig dig dig wait? What’s this 1040 (2018)? Finally.

I really need a paper filing algorithm other than gravity. Though it does do FILO well.

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gocart mozart  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:29:52am
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:29:59am

re: #365 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

So our stimulus payments finally showed up. It all got deposited into the spouses checking account instead of being split between hers and mine. Now we will have to go down to the bank and get my half out so I can deposit it into mine..

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Curious about this — does your tax filing include both accounts or only hers?

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TarHellion  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:33:11am

From The Daily Beast:

Bank and Internal Revenue Service websites crashed on Wednesday morning after the first round of federal coronavirus stimulus payments rolled out via direct deposit accounts. Major banks such as Wells Fargo, Bank of America, Citi, and Capital One reported outages on their websites as online traffic surged when Americans started receiving their stimulus payments. Many people are also reporting “status not available” messages when trying to track their payments via an IRS tool, according to WXIA. Congress passed a $2.2 trillion stimulus package last month to ease the heavy blow to the economy amid the coronavirus pandemic. Americans who make less than $75,000 per year are expected to receive $1,200 checks.

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retired cynic  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:33:50am

re: #365 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

So our stimulus payments finally showed up. It all got deposited into the spouses checking account instead of being split between hers and mine. Now we will have to go down to the bank and get my half out so I can deposit it into mine..

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Can’t you manage a wire transfer from one account to the other by phone?

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lawhawk  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:34:32am

re: #369 gocart mozart

Cake: The Distance

Cake - The Distance (Official Video)

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calochortus  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:35:01am

re: #349 jaunte

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When did these petulant whiners lose all sense of shame?

I’m wondering why they can’t wash their windows or plant flowers?

Oh, they can’t hire someone to come wash their windows for them or hire someone to do their gardening? Please, bring me my tiniest violin.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:35:12am

re: #314 makeitstop

Whoa.

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Aeroflot Flight 1492 41 dead out of 78 occupants

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:35:15am

I realize the source but I wouldn’t be surprised to see lots more of this:

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:35:24am

re: #351 mmmirele

Even though Trump is talking about opening the economy, even though idiot GOP governors are talking about reopening the economy, my evil too big to fail employer is pushing forward with moving people home who would normally work in a call center. We’re talking thousands of people. This obviously costs money, and it blows a hole in the big push to get everyone consolidated in a relatively few sites, but it’s the smart thing to do, because we absolutely do not know how long we will be doing this.

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My wife works from home for a medical billing company. The company has been doing it for a while. We’re in Texas, and while the person she works for is just down the street - it’s how she found out about the job - she has other coworkers in North Carolina and Illinois. The clients are all over the country as well.
The company supplied a phone and a computer, and they have an IT department in charge of maintaining and updating the computers, just like any centrally located company.

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jaunte  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:35:54am

Yes, it’s a death cult.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:36:05am

re: #374 calochortus

I’m wondering why they can’t wash their windows or plant flowers?

Oh, they can’t hire someone to come wash their windows for them or hire someone to do their gardening? Please, bring me my tiniest violin.

Talked to my sister last night and she said it was something about retail restrictions closing off things like “home improvement” stuff or something.

She wasn’t terribly clear on it either.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:36:54am

re: #370 Hecuba’s daughter

Curious about this — does your tax filing include both accounts or only hers?

Last years (2018) filing was hers, this years filing (2019) was mine/ours (joint account) and our tax return was directly deposited into it. Which leads me to suspect they used the info on the 2018 filing for some reason.

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jaunte  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:37:51am
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Belafon  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:38:04am

re: #357 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Got a friend* in North Carolina who is all bitchy about access to the state parks being closed. (He likes to fish and kayak.) He is talking about joining the next protest about things being closed.

I am thinking about engaging him on the subject and perhaps explaining that part of the issue is the exposure rescue and park rangers would be undergoing if things were open, liability issues, etc. But also think I’d be banging my head against a brick wall.

* - He also didn’t vote for Hillary and went 3rd party as a “protest” since he thought she’d win anyways in 2016.

If they open the park without any of the rangers, is he going to be ok with the littering and damaging the parks like what happened in Arizona during the shutdowns?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:38:26am

re: #380 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Last years (2018) filing was hers, this years filing (2019) was mine/ours (joint account) and our tax return was directly deposited into it. Which leads me to suspect they used the info on the 2018 filing for some reason.

When did you do the 2019 filing? The checks are being processed today but that doesn’t mean the database was populated today or even this week…

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:38:31am

re: #372 retired cynic

Can’t you manage a wire transfer from one account to the other by phone?

She’s looking into it.

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calochortus  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:40:11am

re: #379 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Talked to my sister last night and she said it was something about retail restrictions closing off things like “home improvement” stuff or something.

She wasn’t terribly clear on it either.

You mean these folks don’t plant seeds or do any sort of propagation? Also doesn’t answer the window washing thing.

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:41:43am

re: #365 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

So our stimulus payments finally showed up. It all got deposited into the spouses checking account instead of being split between hers and mine. Now we will have to go down to the bank and get my half out so I can deposit it into mine..

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I’m just going to write my wife a check.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:42:18am

re: #383 klys (maker of Silmarils)

When did you do the 2019 filing? The checks are being processed today but that doesn’t mean the database was populated today or even this week…

Around the middle of March. Which is why I suspect they used the info from last years filing.

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:43:17am

re: #376 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I realize the source but I wouldn’t be surprised to see lots more of this:

What is it?

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makeitstop  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:44:37am

Fuck.

Dumb son of a bitch.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:44:56am

re: #385 calochortus

You mean these folks don’t plant seeds or do any sort of propagation? Also doesn’t answer the window washing thing.

Apparently not. Garden centers and plant nurseries are closed off even if they are a subsection of a larger store that’s allowed to be open, per the most recent executive order (which I’m reading through now) - so’s carpet, flooring, furniture, and paint. No traveling between two residences in the state if you own both, you gotta pick one and stay there.

Still have no explanation for the window washing thing.

I will say locally that I still see landscaping folks out violating the shelter-in-place stuff, which the most recent one restricted landscaping work solely for the purposes of appearance. (Allowed for safety purposes, but …mowing that lawn does not count.) It does seem to mostly be the single proprietor operations doing it, so they at least don’t seem to be violating social distancing?

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:45:29am

re: #349 jaunte

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When did these petulant whiners lose all sense of shame?

And here I thought it was trump who shut us down.
How else does he get credit for opening back up?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:45:42am

re: #388 Belafon

What is it?

Check has gone to the account of someone who died in 2018; presumably next of kin had not yet filed the “final” tax return in 2019 yet.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:45:55am

re: #386 Belafon

I’m just going to write my wife a check.

Not that big of a deal. Her bank is pretty much across the street from mine. We have to go out tomorrow anyway to pick up some stuff to repair the sprinkler system.

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:46:12am

re: #389 makeitstop

Fuck.

Dumb son of a bitch.

And when the states don’t jump up and say “sir, yes, sir” he’s going to have more meltdowns.

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:47:43am

re: #392 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Check has gone to the account of someone who died in 2018; presumably next of kin had not yet filed the “final” tax return in 2019 yet.

As long as they don’t end up in any of the Trump’s accounts, it’s just something that is going to happen. They can fix it. It’s definitely not the end of the world.

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stpaulbear  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:49:30am

re: #378 jaunte

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Yes, it’s a death cult.

Did someone ask him how he’d feel if one of his kids got sick and died due to his refusal to isolate? Is that just their time to go too?

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:50:10am

Have a safe day all.
Fuck the GOP.
Fuck Trump.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:50:32am

re: #376 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I realize the source but I wouldn’t be surprised to see lots more of this:

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Yeah — I don’t know how the automated system is dealing with this. There would have been a 2018 filing on behalf of his father which should identify the form as being on behalf of a decedent. That would complicate the software that would identify who is eligible for these checks.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:51:30am

re: #380 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Last years (2018) filing was hers, this years filing (2019) was mine/ours (joint account) and our tax return was directly deposited into it. Which leads me to suspect they used the info on the 2018 filing for some reason.

I’m so old I can’t grasp the concept of ‘Her” money and “My” money.

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calochortus  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:52:14am

re: #390 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Apparently not. Garden centers and plant nurseries are closed off even if they are a subsection of a larger store that’s allowed to be open, per the most recent executive order (which I’m reading through now) - so’s carpet, flooring, furniture, and paint. No traveling between two residences in the state if you own both, you gotta pick one and stay there.

Still have no explanation for the window washing thing.

I will say locally that I still see landscaping folks out violating the shelter-in-place stuff, which the most recent one restricted landscaping work solely for the purposes of appearance. (Allowed for safety purposes, but …mowing that lawn does not count.) It does seem to mostly be the single proprietor operations doing it, so they at least don’t seem to be violating social distancing?

I don’t see a lot of landscaping folks here-a few, but not many. I haven’t been anywhere near a big box hardware store but I do know you can contact our local nursery and order plants and they’ll load them in your car when you come to pick up, but who knows what the regulations are elsewhere.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:52:46am

re: #376 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I realize the source but I wouldn’t be surprised to see lots more of this:

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I figured that was inevitable.

So of course Massie is gonna get all outragey vapors about it.

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jeffreyw  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:52:49am

re: #294 goddamnedfrank

They are taking it back. It’s an advance on your 2021 return.

I don’t think this is correct. Think of it as “the IRS has found a mistake in your favor” and they are refunding the money that they owe you. You do not pay it back, ever. It is yours to keep.

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calochortus  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:54:25am

re: #399 Decatur Deb

I’m so old I can’t grasp the concept of ‘Her” money and “My” money.

Yeah, we’re too lazy to maintain two accounts and figure out what comes out of which one. Works for us.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:55:37am

re: #359 Hecuba’s daughter

It may be possible to persuade those who aren’t just trolls. I was in a polite FB discussion with a die-hard Trumper (he’s an IRL FOAF — and the mutual friend had asked me months ago to be easy on this guy) who told me that he has students who are Berners. I have no doubt that he would be urging them to hold fast to their ideals.

It’s important that Berners hear the other side — how holding on to these ideals will end up losing them forever — that the right way is to vote D and then work within the party to advance your goals — that anything else is designed to promote those who will wreck any possibility of achieving those objectives. Trotsky wrote in 1933 how the failure of German communists and moderates to collaborate led to the imposition of the most evil government of the 20th century.

When you ask “how are you going to achieve your goals” you have to get something more than “if everyone would just vote for/support the things I want”….

405
sagehen  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:57:35am

re: #376 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I realize the source but I wouldn’t be surprised to see lots more of this:

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and all the comments are “so he’ll be voting Democrat in Nov” or “this is why we can’t do mail-in voting”.

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:58:47am

re: #403 calochortus

Yeah, we’re too lazy to maintain two accounts and figure out what comes out of which one. Works for us.

I love my wife but my money for bills kept turning into her money for takeout.

407
I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:58:50am

re: #364 Rightwingconspirator

Time to up the game here. It’s a public health crisis killing thousands. Start issuing fines for putting the rest of us at risk. Churches, protests etc.

The adults in the room have work to do. Work like all the stuff for work to be safe when we can get there. Which means going in to install sneezeguards, floor markings at six feet, PPE for employees, disinfection. All before we open. Make the rules print them, train on them. Then hope for the best.

You don’t like it? Theres six or eight red States open for business. No one is stopping you. Borders are not closed

408
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2020 • 10:59:49am

re: #405 sagehen

and all the comments are “so he’ll be voting Democrat in Nov” or “this is why we can’t do mail-in voting”.

I was about to say, this is dripping, bloody red meat to the GOP

409
lawhawk  Apr 15, 2020 • 11:00:09am

re: #407 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

You don’t like it? Theres six or eight red States open for business. No one is stopping you. Borders are not closed

The George Carlin approach - put all the fucknuts in the square states, easy to fence, and let ‘em have at it. /

George Carlin - State Prison Farms

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calochortus  Apr 15, 2020 • 11:00:26am

re: #406 Belafon

I love my wife but my money for bills kept turning into her money for takeout.

Whatever works. :)

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 15, 2020 • 11:00:44am

For all the talk about how well Sweden is handling things — their current death rate per million population is 43% higher than ours, although their total case rate per million is two thirds of ours. We probably are heading to a higher rate per million population than theirs, but their mortality rate among reported cases is similar to Italy, France, Spain — 10%. That is very troubling, unless it reflects a vast under reporting of cases, which is certainly possible.

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retired cynic  Apr 15, 2020 • 11:04:14am

re: #390 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Apparently not. Garden centers and plant nurseries are closed off even if they are a subsection of a larger store that’s allowed to be open, per the most recent executive order (which I’m reading through now) - so’s carpet, flooring, furniture, and paint. No traveling between two residences in the state if you own both, you gotta pick one and stay there.

Still have no explanation for the window washing thing.

I will say locally that I still see landscaping folks out violating the shelter-in-place stuff, which the most recent one restricted landscaping work solely for the purposes of appearance. (Allowed for safety purposes, but …mowing that lawn does not count.) It does seem to mostly be the single proprietor operations doing it, so they at least don’t seem to be violating social distancing?

By that standard, we are open in my little rural county. My lawn mower guy is still out doing all of his lawns, and working on his sister’s new house, so they can move in. Home improvement stores are open.

Restaurants and most retail are closed, however, and most people are staying home. The WalMart is open in all departments, including gardening, but they are only allowing a few people in at a time, have social distancing markings, and had started to put up plexiglass last time I was there (a week ago). Hours are reduced so that the overnight staff can clean instead, and restock without pressure. Talking to the staff, they are nervous. Of course!

That county has 11 cases, 1 death, as of yesterday afternoon. About 35,000 pop. My county adjoining has about 5,000 pop., and no recorded cases, although I heard a couple of days ago of a couple that have it and are being asked to stay at home, although the man is in his 80s and having trouble breathing. Rumor only.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 15, 2020 • 11:04:47am

re: #399 Decatur Deb

I’m so old I can’t grasp the concept of ‘Her” money and “My” money.

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retired cynic  Apr 15, 2020 • 11:05:56am

re: #399 Decatur Deb

I’m so old I can’t grasp the concept of ‘Her” money and “My” money.

Me, too! It was always OURS.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 15, 2020 • 11:08:30am

re: #392 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Check has gone to the account of someone who died in 2018; presumably next of kin had not yet filed the “final” tax return in 2019 yet.

Yes there are many ways this could happen.
Still it’s all kinds of wrong

How does someone who died in 2018 have an open bank account?
That someone else has access to?

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retired cynic  Apr 15, 2020 • 11:09:21am

re: #406 Belafon

I love my wife but my money for bills kept turning into her money for takeout.

My mother did have a fake balance in her checkbook, so my dad didn’t realize how much she was holding back for bills and emergencies. He and money had this water in hand sort of thing happening. She won, and they had enough to live comfortably on until 90-92. Thank goodness! OTOH, my husband won, and I’m out by 72. :<

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2020 • 11:10:28am
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Mike Lamb  Apr 15, 2020 • 11:40:16am

re: #381 jaunte

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To add: the second wave of closings would be significantly stricter in most areas, in which case the economic hit becomes worse.

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danarchy  Apr 15, 2020 • 12:23:00pm

re: #372 retired cynic

Can’t you manage a wire transfer from one account to the other by phone?

or use venmo or google pay or zelle something to do a person to person transfer? Heck even my small regional bank allows person to person transfers through their web site.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 15, 2020 • 12:33:58pm

re: #399 Decatur Deb

I’m so old I can’t grasp the concept of ‘Her” money and “My” money.

Law of Married Income. (Her money is her money. Your money is her money.)

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Mike Lamb  Apr 15, 2020 • 2:14:48pm

re: #392 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Check has gone to the account of someone who died in 2018; presumably next of kin had not yet filed the “final” tax return in 2019 yet.

And checks going out to 10,000 dead people (hypothetically speaking) out of 200M+ tax payers (a generously low number) clearly means the whole thing should be scrapped. Private enterprise would never make such a mistake. No sir. Never.

(Not like people were still calling my mom trying to sell her things 10 years after she died, or anything).


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