Election Day White-Knuckle Thread 5
One thing is clear tonight: this is probably not going to be the landslide we hoped for. Here’s another open thread for those who are still awake.
One thing is clear tonight: this is probably not going to be the landslide we hoped for. Here’s another open thread for those who are still awake.
Boy there are some useless headlines tonight.
Election Day: Polls continue closing across the US
We have a lot of fucking stupid people in this country.
re: #145 teleskiguy
Not really a surprise.
Like in 2016, many Democrats had hopes but in reality this country is strongly theocratic and more than a little tilts towards fascism.
It is more likely that the Dems can flip just a couple of Senate seats.
And a few House seats.
Really hard to square the fact that about half of the population of the United States are absolute garbage humans.
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) November 4, 2020
Joe Biden is going to win the popular vote, but he might still lose because of the Electoral College. The United States is not the greatest country in the world.
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) November 4, 2020
I thought Democrats would do far better in urban and exurban areas to win. Instead what I have seen is the hardening of rural voters to the GOP. Anyone who thought these folks were going to give up or die off were mistaken. Turnout percentages actually increased significantly. I was concerned when I saw all of the Trump trucks and Trump tents along the road. But even more disturbed when the college educated, but fundamentalist Christian folks that I work with were overtly supporting Trump. I thought NC in the urban, progressive areas would overcome this, but I was wrong.
DeKalb County, GA (where lots of Atlanta is ) is only 1% in, and is overwhelmingly Biden so far. Let’s not count people out. Some of the other counties around Atlanta are similarly under counted so far.
re: #6 TarHellion
Anyone who thought these folks were going to give up or die off were mistaken. .
Covid is helping them die off.
So who is our nominee in 2024? Just don’t think Harris can do it. Buttigieg? Booker? The second coming of Roosevelt?
Sen. Ben Sasse is reëlected. Thanks, Chris Janicek.
I once dated someone who told me the day after the 2016 election that what America needs is a dictatorship.
So far there is not electoral surprise.
As expected, NC and FL and GA are nail-biters.
re: #9 TarHellion
Let’s get through 2020 before we worry about 2024.
I’ll be relieved more the words can say if Biden pulls this out… but it is…
… loss for words …
…that this is even close is so sad.
re: #9 TarHellion
So who is our nominee in 2024? Just don’t think Harris can do it. Buttigieg? Booker? The second coming of Roosevelt?
Bernie is fresh and rested.
re: #11 Ace Rothstein
I once dated someone who told me the day after the 2016 election that what America needs is a dictatorship.
When my wife and I were in Poland, a woman there told us we shouldn’t return because she thought the country would devolve into civil war.
That said, Poland isn’t doing so great at the moment.
re: #9 TarHellion
So who is our nominee in 2024? Just don’t think Harris can do it. Buttigieg? Booker? The second coming of Roosevelt?
Whitmer.
FFVCS up 34,000 with 451 precincts left to report
I hate to be THAT guy, but I will.
This was ALWAYS going to be close.
ALWAYS.
This normalization is one of the reasons of Trump in the first place. Who in their right mind would want to hang out with a felon who works w Russian intelligence to attack America and called for the execution of fellow Americans who were investigating Trump-Putin? Disgusting https://t.co/lg9Qdt3Wfi
— Olga Lautman (@OlgaNYC1211) November 4, 2020
Arizona: Legalization lead holding With 72%, 60% YES on legalization. Looking like a win. via @24liveblog https://t.co/mxmg1b7awB pic.twitter.com/DMFCJdUbRH
— NORML (@NORML) November 4, 2020
re: #14 Tahitinho
I’ll be relieved more the words can say if Biden pulls this out… but it is…
… loss for words …
…that this is even close is so sad.
Yes indeed.
HISTORIC: Coloradans have voted #NoOn115 to defeat the dangerous and deceptive ban on abortion later in pregnancy. The people of Colorado have spoken — abortion bans don’t belong in our state. This is a victory for pregnant people, families, and doctors. pic.twitter.com/yJRpbIcV3P
— Abortion Access For All - No On 115 (@access4allco) November 4, 2020
Restricting abortion access in Colorado has always been a nonstarter, similar ballot initiatives have failed three times in the past.
re: #20 Varek Raith
I hate to be THAT guy, but I will.
This was ALWAYS going to be close.
ALWAYS.
Yup. And that’s depressing.
So… seems we’re heading to the Senate still being in GOP hands?
If the Dems can flip AZ and IA senate, then you’ve got a 50-50 Senate.
Oh, wonderful.
re: #23 teleskiguy
I hope this holds.
Remember, I got my 80 YO mother to legitimately vote for legalization by playing up the TAXES aspect. Even my brother was floored.
re: #30 TarHellion
Trump will win NC
What makes you think that — at least based on the counties not counted, it seems like a nail biter but still…
Oh, are you from North Carolina?
re: #30 TarHellion
Trump will win NC
Because NC loves God, and Biden hates God.
Couldn’t be any more clear.
re: #20 Varek Raith
Good to see you hanging in with us today.
re: #28 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
So… seems we’re heading to the Senate still being in GOP hands?
If the Dems can flip AZ and IA senate, then you’ve got a 50-50 Senate.
Oh, wonderful.
That still makes Schemer leader, at least. It’s not nothing.
Trump up 39,000 in NC with 326 precincts to report. It’s over.
re: #33 Rightwingconspirator
Good to see you hanging in with us today.
Yes. Trump killed my joy in politics.
I’m here for his ratio.
;)
The Pepper Cat refuses to comprehend the fall back an hour thing. She wants her milk now, not at 8:30
Bolz now up 3.2 points over Fortenberry in NE-1. Looking more like an upset there.
Eastman trailing Bacon -11.6 points. 60% of the vote remains to be counted.
Libertarian pulling 3.1 percent in NC Senate race vs .84 in Presidential. Cunningham not keeping his pecker in his pants cost him dearly.
The post-election demographic studies will be enlightening.
My suspicion:
So many of those young people who don’t like Trump… did not vote.
But a great number of older Americans who love their god voted because Je$u$ told them too.
Susan Collins has a 25 000 vote lead with 14% reporting.
Five States on the left coast with legal weed. Come on Idaho, make it 2 states deep from Mexico to Canada.
The fear of having a dark skinned, socialist woman as VP probably motivated quite a few people too.
Based on the calls made by MSNBC, Trump’s odds have dropped to 6% on fivethirtyeight.com interactive map.
re: #42 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
The post-election demographic studies will be enlightening.
My suspicion:
So many of those young people who don’t like Trump… did not vote.
But a great number of older Americans who love their god voted because Je$u$ told them too.
Then they fucking deserve all the shit they’re stuck with if he wins another term.
re: #46 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
The fear of having a dark skinned, socialist woman as VP probably motivated quite a few people too.
It’s just economic anxiety.
FFVCS up 44,000 in NC with 332 precincts left to report.
Mark Kelly is expected to win a Senate seat in Arizona.
re: #50 TarHellion
FFVCS up 44,000 in NC with 332 precincts left to report.
most of those are where Biden is performing 60-40.
Nate Cohn is saying there was an error in some of the North Carolina vote. Not enough to put Biden in the lead but enough that if Wake Co. can come through, he might still pull it out.
re: #32 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Because NC loves God, and Biden hates God.
Couldn’t be any more clear.
I’m sure this has been posted before, but it bears repeating.
Both Trump and Biden went to their church of choice today. Biden went to mass at St. Joseph’s in Wilmington, DE, and Trump went on Fox News https://t.co/4r60gntPeu
— Matthew Dowd (@matthewjdowd) November 3, 2020
re: #42 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
The post-election demographic studies will be enlightening.
My suspicion:
So many of those young people who don’t like Trump… did not vote.
But a great number of older Americans who love their god voted because Je$u$ told them too.
Pretty much. For all the noise younger Sanders supporters made about rallies in 2016, they didn’t turn out, as expected of the consistently lowest turnout demographic.
It didn’t help this year with younger people referring to Covid-19 as “Boomer remover” and other ageist commentary against Nancy Pelosi or others. That doesn’t really endear you to the groups which vote more often.
In some places though youth turnout seems to be making a difference, such as NE-1.
Apparently there is a reporting error in Randolph County NC that mistakenly gave Trump 30k extra votes
re: #56 SpaceJesus
Apparently there is a reporting error in Randolph County NC that mistakenly gave Trump 30k extra votes
This event will be enough for Trump to sue in court if he loses.
Hillary won New Hampshire by ~0.5 percent for context https://t.co/110W1Q0bcX
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) November 4, 2020
re: #58 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
This event will be enough for Trump to sue in court if he loses.
Reporting error is meaningless since it’s the certified results that really count.
Yes, the polling was WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY off. Cooper will remain governor of NC but his margin is now down to 51.75 to 46.8. Polls showed him up by double-digits.
Dems could lose every other Council of State race, including Attorney General.
re: #1 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Boy there are some useless headlines tonight.
😂 They’re especially annoying when there’s so much tension.
re: #53 Tyrion
Nate Cohn is saying there was an error in some of the North Carolina vote. Not enough to put Biden in the lead but enough that if Wake Co. can come through, he might still pull it out.
Yep. Here.
We have some good news for Democrats in North Carolina, where a reporting error by Randolph County is padding Trump by about 30k in our estimate there.
They reported both in person (abs one-stop) and absentee mail together, but the needle’s still expecting 45k early votes pic.twitter.com/yXc2BAoD2P— Nate Cohn (@Nate_Cohn) November 4, 2020
I would be slobbering drunk right now if I still drank.
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) November 4, 2020
re: #64 teleskiguy
I still do. And there is a reason I booked a day off for Wednesday, win or lose.
Another shithead wins reelection.
BREAKING: Republican Paul Gosar wins reelection to U.S. House in Arizona’s 4th Congressional District. #APracecall at 8:36 p.m. MST. #Election2020 #AZelection
— AP Politics (@AP_Politics) November 4, 2020
re: #60 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
Reporting error is meaningless since it’s the certified results that really count.
Doesn’t matter. Anything, and I do mean anything, will be enough for desperate Republicans.
With 20% of Iowa now in, the vote is
Biden 220,513
Trump 135,706
Senate
Greenfield 215,205
Ernst 136,433
Stewart (L) 6,535
Ballot initiative: Hold a state constitutional convention? Resounding no.
IA-1: Democratic Representative Abbie Fikenauer has a commanding lead. The other three districts have not yet reported.
re: #61 TarHellion
Because Je$u$ loves Republicans, and NC loves Je$u$.
There really is nothing we can say. Turnout was off the charts. We thought that would be enough. But the pull of a cult, along with the hardening of the rural vote will keep this fucker in power. The people have chosen. And we shall reap the whirlwind.
re: #68 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Doesn’t mean a lot at this stage, because Iowa has counties which are dominated by college populations, and if those come in early one can be mislead.
re: #46 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
The fear of having a dark skinned, socialist woman as VP probably motivated quite a few people too.
Bigger was the boogaloo’s violence all blamed on BLM. You’ll hear lots of people saying tomorrow they voted for “strong” leadership.
re: #64 teleskiguy
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Congratulations for staying sober. Pat yourself on the back extra times for tonight, it is miserable. It may turn out ok but my buzzed mood could not be described as happy and I’d enjoy it more if I hadn’t had beers.
re: #70 TarHellion
There really is nothing we can say. Turnout was off the charts. We thought that would be enough. But the pull of a cult, along with the hardening of the rural vote will keep this fucker in power. The people have chosen. And we shall reap the whirlwind.
I don’t think so. Trump won Ohio big in 2016, and it’s a nail-biter. That suggests he is in trouble in the rust belt states he barely won.
Was there a goof up in Va? Figured it’d be called by now.
Iman Jodeh, a Democrat in Colorado’s House District 41, will be the first Muslim state legislator in state history.
— Alex Burness (@alex_burness) November 4, 2020
FFVCS up 61,581 with 188 precincts left to report in NC. It’s over.
America is deciding whether it will be a democracy or a fascist autocracy tonight, but the commercials for prescription drugs and car insurance just go on like business as usual.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 4, 2020
re: #79 Charles Johnson
America is deciding whether it will be a democracy or a fascist autocracy tonight, but the commercials for prescription drugs and car insurance just go on like business as usual.
Nazis need dick pills, too.
Well, I’m off to bed, can’t take this anymore as my fears are just proving just too much. In the morning I hope not to wake up living inside a Putin’s Russia clone country. My hopes are still breathing but my state of Florida has just proven to be a 2000% disappointment even though I did my best. See you all in the morning as the dust is clearing.
Evil in the form of racism and anti-science is running a close race. Don’t let this be the defining choice that decides the direction of the 21st Century.
I’m splitting my attention between ABC live stream George S. and here, after wearing myself out today finishing our move. Didn’t make it to the liquor store but we did hit up Fillabong. Still hoping the race is called tonight!
First Nebraska Panhandle counties report
Sioux
Trump 640
Biden 72
88% of votes counted
Sheridan
Trump 661
Biden 196
30%
Garden
Trump 1,016
Biden 191
98%
Deuel
Trump 306
Biden 172
37%
The remaining counties have no report.
We have to wait for all the votes to be counted.
It will take time.
We won’t have all the answers tonight.
Work on cultivating the spiritual attribute of patience.
Continue cultivating the spiritual attribute of demanding justice.
Hold steady.— Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg (@TheRaDR) November 4, 2020
Here in west-coast Florida, I counted yard signs yesterday. Was hoping to post here that Biden was in the lead. Instead it was about 55-45 for the other guy. What tipped it was one street of McMansions-by-the-water that was 95%. Rich, isolated, & satisfied.
Now, sad to say but it looks like my poll was accurate. Embarrassed by my adopted state. Sorry, America! I did what I could.
Grew up near Philly… I’m hoping PA and the rest of the country can bail us out. “White-knuckle” indeed. Good news, please?……
Guess the shy Trump voter was a reality. Just think what the margins would be if hadn’t killed 230,000 people.
10:32: Oh great. A “software error” is delaying 80,000 mail votes in Gwinnett County, Georgia, AKA blue Atlanta suburbs. Neat.https://t.co/hla9WSjBBr
First a “busted pipe” in Fulton and now “software error” in Gwinnett? man, Brian Kemp really earning his money.— Rebecca Schoenkopf, Wonkette Editrix, King Of You (@commiegirl1) November 4, 2020
I saw that someone called the Nebraska NE-02 for Trump?? Anyone have any information on that? I thought Biden was favorite there.
My son is walking around the house wearing a MAGA hat. I have failed as a parent. :(
re: #41 TarHellion
Libertarian pulling 3.1 percent in NC Senate race vs .84 in Presidential. Cunningham not keeping his pecker in his pants cost him dearly.
cost all of us.
FFVCS up 64,000 with in NC with 155 precincts left. Again, it is over.
Roy Cooper expected to hold his governor’s seat in North Carolina.
LEE DRUTMAN
NOV. 3, 10:46 PM
As we watch the results tonight, it’s important to keep in mind that in any other presidential democracy, this would not be a particularly close election. The only thing making this election so close is the Electoral College. Similarly, the only thing making the Senate so close is the small-state bias. If Trump ekes out an Electoral College victory, it will be the third time in six elections that a Republican has won the Electoral College and the presidency while losing the popular vote. Republicans have won the popular vote only once since 1988. And Republican senators have represented a majority of Americans only for one Congress in the past 40 years, despite having a Senate majority more than half that time.
Polling will be completely overhauled after this. You don’t fuck this up to this degree two elections in a row.
re: #71 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Doesn’t mean a lot at this stage, because Iowa has counties which are dominated by college populations, and if those come in early one can be mislead.
IA-4 (Steve King’s old district) may flip.
Cindy Axne (D) 196,075
David Young (R) 157,696
78% reporting
Ernst is now 100,000 votes behind Greenfield for Senate with 42% in
re: #88 The Pie Overlord!
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You know the Trumpers will look at that as Dem areas manufacturing delays so they figure out how many votes they need to manufacture to win.
re: #97 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Isn’t Story County in that district? If so, then the big university there reporting early can mislead.
How can the US re-elect a president who has killed more than 230,000 people?
NC Attorney General lead down to 15,000 for incumbent Democrat. This would be really bad if Stein loses. Cooper will get re-election as governor, but not having a Dem AG would be crippling.
re: #97 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
IA-4 (Steve King’s old district) may flip.
Cindy Axne (D) 196,075
David Young (R) 157,696
78% reportingErnst is now 100,000 votes behind Greenfield for Senate with 42% in
Crucial Senate seat.
re: #100 Charles Johnson
How can the US re-elect a president who has killed more than 230,000 people?
We are literally living a different reality from them. That’s the bottom line.
re: #100 Charles Johnson
How can the US re-elect a president who has killed more than 230,000 people?
Fear of BLM far outweighs fear of a virus.
I honestly thought our NC Dem numbers would be overwhelming in the rural, progressive areas. But the Cult of Trump has proved to be one you cannot deny. Counties with 80-plus percent turnout and increased support. It’s impressive and disheartening.
New York Magazine lost a long time reader tonight. For good. Fuck these people.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 4, 2020
re: #100 Charles Johnson
How can the US re-elect a president who has killed more than 230,000 people?
Because it shows what a powerful alpha he is. They’d dream of doing the same things if they were in his position.
BREAKING: Arizona has legalized marijuana!
— Marijuana Policy Project (@MarijuanaPolicy) November 4, 2020
re: #96 TarHellion
Polling will be completely overhauled after this. You don’t fuck this up to this degree two elections in a row.
Poling itself is total BS. People can lie to you. Whatever. I wish there wouldn’t be any. The only poll that matters is Election Day.
re: #100 Charles Johnson
How can the US re-elect a president who has killed more than 230,000 people?
Extremely premature. Trump is losing Arizona.
re: #89 Tyrion
I saw that someone called the Nebraska NE-02 for Trump?? Anyone have any information on that? I thought Biden was favorite there.
Pollsters had NE-2 as “lean Democratic” and Trump was early in the lead. Biden now leads by 17,000 votes with 57%. In the House race Eastman is behind Rep. Bacon by 17,000 votes.
In NE-1 which pollsters had as “solid Republican” Bolz’s lead has slipped behind Fortenberry by 0.7% with the Libertarian pulling 2.5%. 54% has been counted.
Neither race has been called yet.
re: #101 TarHellion
i’m seeing only 41 of Wake County’s 209 precincts reporting as of yet. IIRC, Wake is the most liberal county in NC
Mississippi voters approve medical use of marijuana. https://t.co/73hF1Vb9jC
— reason (@reason) November 4, 2020
re: #100 Charles Johnson
How can the US re-elect a president who has killed more than 230,000 people?
The Republican 24/7 Bullshit Machine. And especially Right Wing Jesus. Lots of Right Wing Jesus.
re: #100 Charles Johnson
How can the US re-elect a president who has killed more than 230,000 people?
With all the reports of vote total irregularities (see Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia, Florida), I’m starting to get some ideas on how it’s happening.
But this was polling across the board. Multiple outlets agreed where things “stood.”
NC Attorney General race down to 15,000 with Dem up
re: #100 Charles Johnson
How can the US re-elect a president who has killed more than 230,000 people?
We live in a country where Bill Mitchell is better at polling than Nate Silver.
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re: #100 Charles Johnson
More proof that I do not live in the country I thought I did, growing up.
Forget MSNBC, Trump will win NC by nearly 100,000 votes. Again, fucking fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.
Left coast called for Biden. Idaho called for Agolf Twitler.
Don’t think we will take the senate either.
I haven’t been paying attention to the coverage for my own health. Is Trump really actually pulling away with this? Or are people doom-saging because we’re that shit scared of it happening?
I’m going to take an ambien and try to get some sleep.
re: #121 teleskiguy
Again, no surprises.
There has yet to be that big surprise. I know Democrats were believing there would be… but alas.
re: #123 Citizen K
He’s got a really good chance of pulling this off.
re: #123 Citizen K
I haven’t been paying attention to the coverage for my own health. Is Trump really actually pulling away with this? Or are people doom-saging because we’re that shit scared of it happening?
I’m thinking more the latter, though we’re all pretty disappointed that the fucker is so close.
re: #123 Citizen K
No. Lots of votes to be counted in key states. He’s just not being destroyed like we had hoped.
The Washington Post just called NE-2 for Trump with 50% of the vote counted. He leads by 30,000 votes at this point. Jorgesen and write-ins (probably the Green candidate) have 632 votes together.
re: #38 🌹UOJB!
You were right about PA going red. At least so far.
re: #122 GlutenFreeJesus
Don’t think we will take the senate either.
You mean we have to put up with at least two more years of Mcconnell? Fucking hell.
re: #123 Citizen K
I haven’t been paying attention to the coverage for my own health. Is Trump really actually pulling away with this? Or are people doom-saging because we’re that shit scared of it happening?
Biden still leads (barely) but the most critical states may not be called until Thursday.
SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT
Mail-ins are still being counted.
Well, as expected, it’s going to take some time to determine the final results in Michigan.
At 11 pm, ~3 hrs after polls closed, we’re at ~42% of votes counted.
Current standings in MI presidential race:
- Trump, 54.6%
- Biden, 43.7% #Election2020 https://t.co/YmyxJq6A1L— Dave Boucher (@Dave_Boucher1) November 4, 2020
I do not agree that the Dems failed.
If they’re calling Biden a socialist, no one further left than him had a chance.
This country just is what it is— Quaran Queen (@Miss_h3llion) November 4, 2020
NATHANIEL RAKICH
NOV. 3, 11:03 PM
It was always a long shot that a winner would be declared tonight, but now it looks like we might not even have a good idea who’s won when we go to bed. Georgia has had enough problems that it seems like it will be impossible to project tonight. North Carolina looks close enough that it might come down to late-arriving mail ballots. And we’ve long known that results in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin won’t be final for a day or three. Ultimately, I think the presidency comes down to those three states — which, unfortunately, we know the least about right now.
re: #133 The Pie Overlord!
SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT
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Why is this a bad thing?
Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are reporting ELECTION DAY votes earliest and ABSENTEE VOTES latest. We went over this a lot in the past few months. They won’t have final results until the end of the week at the earliest. There’s no point in looking at them now.
— Paul Blumenthal (@PaulBlu) November 4, 2020
re: #131 Eclectic Cyborg
You mean we have to put up with at least two more years of Mcconnell? Fucking hell.
Not decided yet. Ernst is losing and McSally is losing.
MI PA & WI are counting Election Day in-person votes first, mail-in and early votes last.
re: #122 GlutenFreeJesus
Don’t think we will take the senate either.
Hickenlooper ousted Gardner, and Greenfield has Ernst in trouble. It isn’t done in the Senate yet.
Warnock leads with 29.6% of the vote, which is looking like a run-off in Georgia.
Perdue has 54% of the vote with 69% counted.
re: #123 Citizen K
I haven’t been paying attention to the coverage for my own health. Is Trump really actually pulling away with this? Or are people doom-saging because we’re that shit scared of it happening?
Florida - really Miami - is still not called, but is not going to happen without a miracle.
NC, despite some doomposting here, is not finished, but probably Trump.
GA, PA, MI, WI, VA, has slow urban reporting, and I’m mostly feeling okay about them but they’re not as good as polled. Probably.
OH is still possible, but not going to be the easy flip it looked like at 830.
AZ is flipping. Something could be happening in IA.
I don’t want to say polling is waaaay off yet, but it could be another screwy end result. I suspect that turnout models were way off.
re: #117 TarHellion
The problem is that popularity polls are not the real election.
Time after time it has been shown that pre-election popularity polls, in close races, can be easily misunderstood.
Many people never take to heart the “margin of error”.
In reality, the “error” can be much larger than the “margin”. The “margin” is a purely mathematical device that originally was intended to understanding counting errors.
But there are many more possible source of “errors”, not the least of which is that the vote on election day is time dependent.
JULIA AZARI
NOV. 3, 11:07 PM
As I’m watching us go back and forth about the Electoral College, and seeing all this energy going into counting and calling different states, it also occurs to me how much energy the debates over electoral machinery distract from discussion of actual substantive issues that affect people. Maybe it’s just late, but this feels unsustainable.
Arizona passes recreational Marijuana!!!!
Charles.Bethea
@charlesbethea
Georgia won’t be decided tonight, even with partial reporting from Atlanta coming in the next few hours (which will narrow the margin a good bit).
Large counties — Fulton & Gwinnett & Dekalb — have said they won’t be counting tens of thousands of votes until tomorrow.
re: #141 The Pie Overlord!
This is exactly what I have been trying to keep myself from thinking… but you are right.
This is America.
re: #139 The Pie Overlord!
MI PA & WI are counting Election Day in-person votes first, mail-in and early votes last.
This thing is exactly why I’m feeling like postmortems are severely premature, even for us cynically inclined. And we knew this was going to happen from the start because that’s exactly what the administration has been fucking with the mail system for.
Everybody legalizing marijuana the year we’re all at risk of losing our lungs.
re: #2 electrotek
We have a lot of fucking stupid people in this country.
We have a lot of misinformed people in this country. Thank talk radio and Fox News for that. And thank the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine for that.
So what is the chance that Trump will declare victory by 6AM if those slow-counting states are not done by then?
OK, moved to the couch to watch some non-election TV, fell asleep, got up walked and fed the beasts, made a drink and now swilling gin and eating chocolate
Where we at?
re: #151 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
So what is the chance that Trump will declare victory by 6AM if those slow-counting states are not done by then?
Don’t really care. Not how it works.
Think about the role U.S. Media is playing right now and ask yourself if that role is productive.
— Kaivan Shroff (@KaivanShroff) November 4, 2020
Hey Olivia Nuzzi, this one’s for you.
re: #145 Egregious Philbin
Can I have some now??????
re: #152 plansbandc
Edibles mi amigo.
I haven’t smoked anything in nearly 10 years.
I wish I didn’t need 200 mg doses. that gets expensive.
NATHANIEL RAKICH
NOV. 3, 11:13 PM
As you plan your sleep schedule for the rest of the week: We should have near-complete unofficial results from Wisconsin early tomorrow morning, as Milwaukee is expected to finish counting around 6 a.m. Eastern. Michigan originally said it would take until Friday to count all of its votes, but officials have revised that estimate to say they’ll be done tomorrow as well. Finally, Pennsylvania results probably won’t be known until Friday.
LAURA BRONNER
NOV. 3, 11:12 PM
With 82 percent of the expected vote reporting in Ohio, we can see that an early lead for Democrats in the absentee ballots that were counted first has now turned into a Republican lead as Election Day votes were reported, as we expected. But as Nate said earlier, urban counties are somewhat underreported relative to the rest of the state, so that Election Day vote could shift again — and there are likely some more absentee ballots outstanding as well.
The thought that high voter turnout benefits the Democrats is completely out the window. Turnout was fantastic in NC. It DID NOT MATTER!
Looking at the IA result, as expected, the reason Biden jumped out to a big lead is because Johnson county, home of the University of Iowa, reported in.
Bad news for Biden, though, is that some of those north-eastern IA counties by the Mississippi river are going for Trump.
It’s going to be close in Iowa, I think.
re: #160 TarHellion
Because Je$u$ told his people to go vote for Republicans, because Republicans love Je$u$.
Anyone else confused by the apparently very confident final determination calls being made in broadcast media already tonight, as if this was an ordinary election cycle without gigantic mountains of mail in ballots still waiting to be counted?
— Chris Vickery (@VickerySec) November 4, 2020
re: #164 jaunte
Some states have counted many of their early votes.
re: #141 The Pie Overlord!
Take a deep breath. Sending a hug. I am hoping that I was wrong about my sense where PA was going.
As the old jumpmaster said: “I’ll tell you when it’s time to panic.” It’s not time to panic.
Wisconsin says there’s no way they are announcing a winner tonight
Michigan needs until Friday
Pennsylvania isn’t coming out anytime soon, either
Per officials in those states— Saleha Mohsin (@SalehaMohsin) November 4, 2020
re: #167 Decatur Deb
As the old jumpmaster said: “I’ll tell you when it’s time to panic.” It’s not time to panic.
People need to look at where the votes are coming from and how they’ve come in. I’m not fretting.
re: #162 plansbandc
I eat a couple of gummies and get HAF. Such a pot lightweight.
:D :D
I’m beginning some methods of making edibles don’t activate the THC. I think cold extraction methods may be the cause. I make canna-butter to make brownies and I get far more high off 2 brownies than 2-100 mg tablets and it’s at most 40 mg in the brownies.