A Christmas Present From Jacob Collier: “Winter Wonderland”

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British-born artist Jacob Collier is a multi-instrumental maestro of the 21st century. The genre-defying musician is already a four-time Grammy winner, and is nominated for another three at the upcoming awards show. He joins “CBS This Morning: Saturday” to perform “Winter Wonderland.”

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i(m)p(each)sos  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:13:06pm

My blood is boiling. Criminals criming everywhere, in plain sight. Merry Christmas to us all, and Happy Festivus.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:14:40pm

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:16:30pm

Manafort daughters’ text messages: ‘we have blood on our hands because of our father.’

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:17:57pm
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Decatur Deb  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:18:06pm

re: #3 Barefoot Grin

Manafort daughters’ text messages: ‘we have blood on our hands because of our father.’

Is that real, or notional?

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jaunte  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:19:05pm
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jaunte  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:20:18pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:20:27pm

re: #5 Decatur Deb

Is that real, or notional?

There were text messages broadcast four years ago. But I should have verified if they were real or not. Even though it’s true.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:21:08pm

That man is amazing.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:22:21pm

So, yes. It seems to have been true.

businessinsider.com

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Decatur Deb  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:22:37pm

re: #8 Barefoot Grin

There were text messages broadcast four years ago. But I should have verified if they were real or not. Even though it’s true.

Ah. Someone raised them better than expected, then.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:23:06pm

re: #6 jaunte

I’m repeating myself, but…yeah, there’s a message in who’s getting pardoned that goes beyond just flunkies. Maybe it turns out that with each pardon we’ll find a trail of quid-pro-quo…but I’d say there’s still a pattern that matters, especially given all the figures who aren’t complaining about these pardons.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:23:18pm
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austin_blue  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:24:37pm

re: #5 Decatur Deb

Is that real, or notional?

Real.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:25:32pm

re: #6 jaunte

OK I want to know what Donnie is being promised for doing all this ugly shit, but he didn’t think of all these himself. He’s too fucking self absorbed and proudly stupid to have any idea who all these people are. Like the Blackwater contractors, what is he getting in return for that evil shit?

I seriously hope this asshole stays in his little Florida fortress and doesn’t come back. I doubt we’ll be that lucky, but I can dream a little maybe?

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Decatur Deb  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:26:38pm

re: #12 The Ghost of a Flea

I’m repeating myself, but…yeah, there’s a message in who’s getting pardoned that goes beyond just flunkies. Maybe it turns out that with each pardon we’ll find a trail of quid-pro-quo…but I’d say there’s still a pattern that matters, especially given all the figures who aren’t complaining about these pardons.

It will be interesting to see which of his gang don’t get pre-emptive pardons.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:28:46pm
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thedopefishlives  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:30:15pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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There were two ways to do this. One was the impeachment, but the Republicans in the Senate abdicated their duty in favor of craven partisan politics. The other is the 25th Amendment, but the only people who can invoke that are the same people who are helping this man burn everything down.

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thecommodore  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:30:49pm

Will Trump chew on a cyanide capsule before January 20?

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austin_blue  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:31:53pm

re: #15 A Mom Anon

OK I want to know what Donnie is being promised for doing all this ugly shit, but he didn’t think of all these himself. He’s too fucking self absorbed and proudly stupid to have any idea who all these people are. Like the Blackwater contractors, what is he getting in return for that evil shit?

I seriously hope this asshole stays in his little Florida fortress and doesn’t come back. I doubt we’ll be that lucky, but I can dream a little maybe?

Someone’s got to pick up the slack now that Doosch Bank is no longer a handy source of capital. It’s all transactional with this wreck of a human.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:32:10pm

The other thing going on is…there’s so many people in prison who are given no mercy.

Many of whom…as demonstrated by all the cop lying in the last year…probably don’t deserve what they’re getting.

In spite of that provision about “cruel and unusual” punishment we’ve decided that once you’re in prison…or jail…part of the penalty is all suffering inflicted, not just the deprivation of liberty for a set sentence.

Get attacked? Get sexually assaulted? Get coerced into a gang? Get tortured and put in solitary? Get sick from the bad food because the private prison is keeping costs down? Get COVID 19?

It’s all part of the sentence.

Assuming you get to court, because taking a bullet from a cop—or a white dude playing cop—is also deserved.

But if you’re the right kind of rich crook…if you cause enormous, life-destroying, life-ending damage to many, many people…you’re somehow doing less of a crime than a person who smashed a window. You get to be forgiven, you get to go back to society.

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DesertDenizen  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:32:41pm

re: #19 thecommodore

Will Trump chew on a cyanide capsule before January 20?

No. He’s too craven even for that. He will bawl like a baby on his way to the gallows.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:33:33pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:33:54pm

2020 has completely fucked my capacity for subject/verb agreement.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:33:57pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

There would be if Republicans had any soul and morality left. But the fact that they have done not a fucking thing, AND have delighted in doing so is proof they like this shit. One would think there were actual rules and laws that could have him removed now, and charged with the crimes he has committed, but I guess not. Either that or no one in power gives a fuck. I’m frustrated, today’s understatement.!🤬🤬🤬

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:34:27pm

re: #21 The Ghost of a Flea

The other thing going on is…there’s so many people in prison who are given no mercy.

Many of whom…as demonstrated by all the cop lying in the last year…probably don’t deserve what they’re getting.

In spite of that provision about “cruel and unusual” punishment we’ve decided that once you’re in prison…or jail…part of the penalty is all suffering inflicted, not just the deprivation of liberty for a set sentence.

Get attacked? Get sexually assaulted? Get coerced into a gang? Get tortured and put in solitary? Get sick from the bad food because the private prison is keeping costs down? Get COVID 19?

It’s all part of the sentence.

Assuming you get to court, because taking a bullet from a cop—or a white dude playing cop—is also deserved.

But if you’re the right kind of rich crook…if you cause enormous, life-destroying, life-ending damage to many, many people…you’re somehow doing less of a crime than a person who smashed a window. You get to be forgiven, you get to go back to society.

Well said. It’s infuriating.

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b.d. (We Won!)  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:34:42pm

re: #19 thecommodore

Will Trump chew on a cyanide capsule before January 20?

nah, he’ll distribute them to the GOP Congress and maybe a rally.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:35:10pm
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Decatur Deb  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:35:56pm

Trump will maintain a proper GOP balance between Mercy and Justice by killing a couple more federal prisoners before he goes.

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plansbandc  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:36:00pm

re: #24 The Ghost of a Flea

I get it. I can’t grammar anymore at all.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:36:31pm

re: #29 Decatur Deb

Trump will maintain a proper GOP balance between Mercy and Justice by killing a couple more federal prisoners before he goes.

A couple? Try “all of them, Katie”.

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William Lewis  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:37:45pm

re: #22 DesertDenizen

No. He’s too craven even for that. He will bawl like a baby on his way to the gallows.

As he loses control of bladder and bowels.

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jaunte  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:38:02pm

10 tweets

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plansbandc  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:38:21pm
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PrairieQueen  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:38:21pm

re: #32 William Lewis

As he loses control of bladder and bowels.

Uh, a little late for that re: Diaper Don.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:38:26pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:39:13pm
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William Lewis  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:39:42pm

re: #36 Patricia Kayden

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She can go be Assad’s vice president. < spit >

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Decatur Deb  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:39:49pm

re: #31 thedopefishlives

A couple? Try “all of them, Katie”.

I think there are only 2-3 left in the execution pipeline.

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Jack Burton  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:39:53pm

re: #36 Patricia Kayden

I think we’ve had our fill of Russian Agents in the White House, Meghan.

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:40:55pm

No thanks.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:41:42pm

re: #41 DodgerFan1988

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No thanks.

No, actually, I will.

Dear God, please smite this treasonous and unrepentant asshole, for the good of everyone else.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:42:13pm
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PrairieQueen  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:44:42pm

re: #41 DodgerFan1988

“These aren’t the prayers you’re looking for, Rush.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:46:41pm

re: #41 DodgerFan1988

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No thanks.

I’ll pray for the stage 4 cancer.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:47:01pm
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thedopefishlives  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:47:11pm

re: #45 The Pie Overlord!

I’ll pray for the stage 4 cancer.

Heh. “Dear God, please take Rush Limbaugh away from this cancer. It doesn’t deserve this suffering.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:48:21pm

re: #44 PrairieQueen

“These aren’t the prayers you’re looking for, Rush.”

Imprecatory prayers.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:48:23pm

re: #46 The Pie Overlord!

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How did I miss that they even attempted to do this thing?

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:48:28pm
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William Lewis  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:48:59pm

re: #41 DodgerFan1988

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No thanks.

I’ll say a prayer of thanksgiving the day he departs to return to his master in hell.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:50:54pm

re: #51 William Lewis

I’ll say a prayer of thanksgiving the day he departs to return to his master in hell.

When he and his spawn are away from the WH I don’t give a fuck what happens to them. Worry about the next one.

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A Three Hour Tour  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:53:24pm

re: #45 The Pie Overlord!

I’ll pray for the stage 4 cancer.

I wouldn’t wish Stage 4 cancer on my worst enemy.

Fortunately for me, I don’t consider Rush Limbaugh my worst enemy.

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thecommodore  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:53:33pm

re: #45 The Pie Overlord!

I’ll pray for the stage 4 cancer.

I’ve been treated for cancer.
It sucks.
And it was barely Stage 3.
I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.
Even Limbaugh.
But when Rush dies, I hope he’s laid face down in his casket so he’ll see where he’s going.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Dec 23, 2020 • 5:58:57pm

re: #15 A Mom Anon

Like the Blackwater contractors, what is he getting in return for that evil shit?

Protection for when Vlad is done with his sorry ass.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:05:18pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

There is but you’ll never get the GOP to go along with it.

They figure they’ll rule over the ashes.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:06:22pm
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i(m)p(each)sos  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:08:03pm

re: #57 Dread Pirate Ron

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“Fuck Ben Sasse. Hard. With a rusty pitchfork.”

-Me

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:08:54pm

re: #15 A Mom Anon

OK I want to know what Donnie is being promised for doing all this ugly shit, but he didn’t think of all these himself. He’s too fucking self absorbed and proudly stupid to have any idea who all these people are. Like the Blackwater contractors, what is he getting in return for that evil shit?

I seriously hope this asshole stays in his little Florida fortress and doesn’t come back. I doubt we’ll be that lucky, but I can dream a little maybe?

The Blackwater contractors had an insider lobbying for them, as well as FOX News segments about how they shouldn’t have been convicted. Donald has routinely picked up and carried ideas presented to him by FOX presenters that he likes, and this is up his alley anyway. Underneath it all…Donald Trump admires violence and cruelty, see as right and necessary to “win.” When he talks about war, he’s consistently emphasized that brutality is necessary and commendable, and that civilians are viable targets. I don’t think it was hard to convince him to do this pardon.

Fox News: How To Whitewash an Atrocity

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Decatur Deb  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:09:00pm

re: #57 Dread Pirate Ron

“This is rotten to the core.”

tl;dr

shorter: “Republican”

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EPR-radar  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:09:58pm

re: #57 Dread Pirate Ron

Then Sasse should start talking to his fellow GOP Senators about getting Trump out of office before Trump does any more rotten shit.

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A Three Hour Tour  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:11:00pm

re: #57 Dread Pirate Ron

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And tomorrow, Ben Sasse will fold like a cheap ill-fitting brown KGB-issued suit

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:11:27pm

Republicans in Congress can fuck right off with their statements of concern (trademark pending for Susan Collins). Trump is NOT a mystery wrapped in an enigma. The only people who didn’t see this coming a mile away are the willfully ignorant assholes who’ve been enabling Needy Amin for judges and tax cuts. This is how heads end up on pikes.

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A Three Hour Tour  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:11:54pm

re: #61 EPR-radar

Then Sasse should start talking to his fellow GOP Senators about getting Trump out of office before Trump does any more rotten shit.

Surely, Susan Collins is concerned.

And Lisa Murkowski is troubled.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:13:08pm

re: #64 A Three Hour Tour

Surely, Susan Collins is concerned.

And Lisa Murkowski is troubled.

And Mitt Romney has thoughts. Many of them.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:13:52pm

re: #54 thecommodore

Last I heard, the studio he broadcasts from is in his house. He must be on the way to his deathbed. I’ll be discreet and say that my tiny violin and accessories are at the cleaners. He has been here since the beginning of right wing media really having an effect on large numbers of Americans. Sad thingnis that his death won’t even make a dent in the sheer volume of bullshit and slime coming from that direction.

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Jay C  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:15:55pm

re: #61 EPR-radar

Then Sasse should start talking to his fellow GOP Senators about getting Trump out of office before Trump does any more rotten shit.

Yeah, well, right….
No.

Sen. Sasse seems to have taken over the Jeff Flake Chair in Republican. Senate Mavericky Maverickness: I.e. he’s the Designated Gadfly who will be the public face of calling GOPers out on the most obvious bullshit, but will still reliably vote the Party Line 99.9 times out of a hundred.

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A Three Hour Tour  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:16:05pm

re: #65 i(m)p(each)sos

And Mitt Romney has thoughts. Many of them.

Some of them involve how best to impersonate a vertebrate.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:16:21pm

re: #59 The Ghost of a Flea

Honestly, the pardoning of war criminals is another thing where it’s not just Trump, it’s a whole worldview.

A bunch of Americans have decided that we’re the good guys, which mean we get to do the same things as the bad guys but not be held culpable.

We suffered 9/11, so now the Middle East will experience civilians being blown up in buildings indefinitely, for the sake of an entirely emotional sense of national “safety.”

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:19:05pm

re: #64 A Three Hour Tour

Surely, Susan Collins is concerned.

And Lisa Murkowski is troubled.

My reply:

Fuck
All
Republican
Traitors

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:19:35pm

Today’s Covid numbers. New cases are trending down but a post-Christmas surge will more than cancel that out.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:21:57pm

re: #71 Dread Pirate Ron

Today’s Covid numbers. New cases are trending down but a post-Christmas surge will more than cancel that out.

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The holiday work cycle will make daily reporting pretty meaningless for the next couple weeks.

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Jack Burton  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:23:49pm

re: #71 Dread Pirate Ron

Today’s Covid numbers. New cases are trending down but a post-Christmas surge will more than cancel that out.

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Every time the numbers start to go down, a fucking holiday comes along and everyone goes all “but my gathering is different!”

Fourth of July started Phase 2.

Labor Day and Dumb school boards started Phase 3.

Thanksgiving started phase 3.5.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:25:47pm

re: #72 Decatur Deb

The holiday work cycle will make daily reporting pretty meaningless for the next couple weeks.

Not to mention, many COVID testing centers were closed early today in Minnesota due to the severe weather, impacting test availability for today. This will probably be a pattern, as daytime winter storms are rather more common than overnight ones.

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:27:47pm

FUCK YOU RICK SANTORUM! CNN MUST FIRE SANTORUM!

Rick Santorum slapped down for defending Trump’s Mueller probe stance

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:28:13pm

Here’s a bit of family history for a palate cleanser.

This is my paternal great-aunt Zella. She was a school teacher in a very small Pennsylvania town who remained single throughout her life. She collected horse figurines, some glass, others plastic. She let me play with the plastic ones when my family would visit. I have vivid memories of playing with those horses but don’t have any other of my own memories. She died when I was pretty young. My mom loved her and kept her alive for me. She was a feisty broad who did things her own way.

I have her high school class ring (graduating class of 1922) and the cake plate she received as a retirement gift from her school colleagues.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:30:27pm

re: #76 Dr. Teddy’s Person

There was a shadowy man in her life.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:35:44pm

re: #77 Decatur Deb

There was a shadowy man in her life.

When I was a teenager, I imagined that she had a lover that the family disapproved of.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:36:33pm

re: #78 Dr. Teddy’s Person

When I was a teenager, I imagined that she had a lover that the family disapproved of.

He showed up from time to time in his snappy fedora.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:37:52pm

re: #79 Decatur Deb

He showed up from time to time in his snappy fedora.

In my mind, he looked like Paul Newman from the Sting.

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jaunte  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:39:38pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:41:53pm

I’ve been watching a documentary called the Black Market Express on Amazon. This is about the 1944 Balvano train disaster in Italy, one of the strangest and most tragic transportation disasters of the twentieth century, and the worst such disaster in Italian history. A steam freight train, with 4 passenger cars attached, and hundreds of free riders on and in the freight cars, stalled in a relatively short tunnel when it lost traction on icy rails. 520 people died of carbon monoxide poisoning, there were only about 90 survivors. Trains did not have radio in those days and the outside world did not know about the disaster until a severely ill crewman, one of just 2 to survive, walked 2 kilometers to the Balvano station and alerted the station master. There was an interview with 96 year old Giuseppe Motta, the station telegraph operator who was one of the first 6 rescuers to reach the stalled train.
The train itself was completely undamaged.

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jaunte  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:42:32pm

re: #76 Dr. Teddy’s Person

She looks a little like Elisabeth Moss.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:44:02pm

re: #73 Jack Burton

Every time the numbers start to go down, a fucking holiday comes along and everyone goes all “but my gathering is different!”

Fourth of July started Phase 2.

Labor Day and Dumb school boards started Phase 3.

Thanksgiving started phase 3.5.

Thanksgiving, Christmas then New Years… And who is not tempted to celebrate the end of the year? Triple waves

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:44:02pm

re: #83 jaunte

She looks a little like Elisabeth Moss.

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A little fuller in the face, but yes she does.

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Sherlock Hound  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:48:04pm

re: #82 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I’ve been watching a documentary called the Black Market Express on Amazon. This is about the 1944 Balvano train disaster in Italy, one of the strangest and most tragic transportation disasters of the twentieth century, and the worst such disaster in Italian history. A steam freight train, with 4 passenger cars attached, and hundreds of free riders on and in the freight cars, stalled in a relatively short tunnel when it lost traction on icy rails. 520 people died of carbon monoxide poisoning, there were only about 90 survivors. Trains did not have radio in those days and the outside world did not know about the disaster until a severely ill crewman, one of just 2 to survive, walked 2 kilometers to the Balvano station and alerted the station master. There was an interview with 96 year old Giuseppe Motta, the station telegraph operator who was one of the first 6 rescuers to reach the stalled train.
The train itself was completely undamaged.

Is that where Ayn Rand got the idea for that famous scene in Atlas Shrugged?

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:48:44pm
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PrairieQueen  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:49:15pm

re: #66 A Mom Anon

I lost a dear family member this week that was a million times the human being Rush is or ever was. If Rush crawls under his bed to die like a poisoned mouse, and nobody notices until it starts to stink, I honestly don’t care. What I do dread are the inevitable post-life tributes to that malevolent piece of shit .

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thedopefishlives  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:49:56pm

re: #84 Rightwingconspirator

Thanksgiving, Christmas then New Years… And who is not tempted to celebrate the end of the year? Triple waves

Yeah, I was talking to my boss today, she said that her daughter is coming home from wherever she’s at (which is already a potential risk in itself) and then is immediately going out to a New Year’s party. Like, that’s just asking for trouble.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:50:17pm

re: #86 Sherlock Hound

Is that where Ayn Rand got the idea for that famous scene in Atlas Shrugged?

I’ve never read Atlas Shrugged, but if it involves a train stalling in a tunnel, probably so.

Update:
Found it in Cliff’s Notes, those handy devils now bedeviling English instructors online.

The Taggart Comet breaks down in the mountains of Colorado, stranding a train full of passengers. Replacement diesel engines aren’t available, only a coal burner that isn’t safe to navigate through the lengthy tunnel on the Comet’s route. Kip Chalmers, a prominent politician riding the Comet on his way to a rally in San Francisco, bullies the railroad employees into bringing the coal-burning engine despite the risks involved. The coal burner is attached, and the worst possible result occurs: Passengers and crew are asphyxiated in the tunnel. An army munitions train, running off its normal schedule, slams into the stalled Comet in the tunnel. Its armament detonates, bringing tons of mountainside down on the Taggart Tunnel.

The Balvano disaster happened during World War II. There was no collision involved but the wartime nature of the event might have suggested the ammunition explosion to Rand.

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Sherlock Hound  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:54:58pm

re: #90 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I’ve never read Atlas Shrugged, but if it involves a train stalling in a tunnel, probably so.

Ayn Rand devotes most of a chapter describing a train that is forced to enter a tunnel. She took a LOT of words to describe the doomed passengers, who in her voluminous prose, completely deserved what happened to them. It is a seminal moment in Randian psychopathy.

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William Lewis  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:56:10pm

re: #86 Sherlock Hound

Is that where Ayn Rand got the idea for that famous scene in Atlas Shrugged?

She published her love letter to hate in 1957 so probably.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:56:43pm

re: #92 William Lewis

her love letter to hate

You’re awesome. Have an upding.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:58:17pm
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Jack Burton  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:58:30pm

re: #84 Rightwingconspirator

Thanksgiving, Christmas then New Years… And who is not tempted to celebrate the end of the year? Triple waves

End of the year?

Today is only March 298th, 2020.

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Sherlock Hound  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:58:41pm

re: #92 William Lewis

She published her love letter to hate in 1957 so probably.

“To a gas chamber—go!” — Whittaker Chamber’s famous description of Atlas Shrugged.

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Teukka  Dec 23, 2020 • 6:59:11pm

Fuck. Second mutation with greater spread.
South African Covid-19 variant may be ‘more effective at spreading’

501Y.V2 is even more contagious than VUI 202012/01 (which has caused UK so much trouble). Both are present on the British Isles.

Looks like someone rolled a lucky number in round 2 of my hypothetical dice game…

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thedopefishlives  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:01:49pm

re: #97 Teukka

Fuck. Second mutation with greater spread.
South African Covid-19 variant may be ‘more effective at spreading’

501Y.V2 is even more contagious than VUI 202012/01 (which has caused UK so much trouble). Both are present on the British Isles.

Looks like someone rolled a lucky number in round 2 of my hypothetical dice game…

But there’s no harm in letting it spread, it’s just the flu, herd immunity, I just want to get sick and get it over with, fuck your feelings.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:03:43pm

Yikes! Randism is a criminal religion.

Cliff, Chapter 7 again:

Ragnar Dannesjköld tells Rearden that he’s out to destroy Robin Hood, the man who, according to legend, stole from the rich and gave to the poor. Ragnar, by contrast, steals from the poor to give to the rich. To be exact, he steals from the parasites to give goods back to the men who produced them. Ragnar seizes U.S. relief vessels bound for various Peoples’ States around the globe and converts the pirated goods into gold for men like Rearden.

Ragnar is a powerful force for justice in the story. He risks his life every day in his battle to ensure that looters don’t benefit from the goods they extort and that productive men receive restitution. His character embodies irony; in order to fight for justice, he’s compelled to become a criminal. After talking with Ragnar, Rearden starts to understand that when the law is engaged in robbery, people who want to return stolen goods to their rightful owners must become outlaws.

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William Lewis  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:04:57pm

re: #96 Sherlock Hound

“To a gas chamber—go!” — Whittaker Chamber’s famous description of Atlas Shrugged.

“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”

[Kung Fu Monkey — Ephemera, blog post, March 19, 2009]”

― John Rogers

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Teukka  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:06:46pm

re: #98 thedopefishlives

But there’s no harm in letting it spread, it’s just the flu, herd immunity, I just want to get sick and get it over with, fuck your feelings.

As you want. I’m gonna stick with social distancing and masks, and take them up to 11 when near the likes of you. 60 feet. Full MOPP gear. ;) ///
Seriously, how would the pathogen rights activists and alphabet morong take that obvious distancing measures?

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:08:08pm

Never mind, I see it has already been discussed.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:08:34pm

re: #57 Dread Pirate Ron

Has Sasse ever actually voted against Trump? Or has he voted to confirm all of his nominees and refused to vote to convict him after the impeachment trial. Sasse can go shut up somewhere. Useless.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:08:42pm

re: #102 The Pie Overlord!

You have to wonder if this is the train wreck that inspired Ayn Rand to include a fictional version in Atlas Shrugged.

Somebody’s about to get caught up.

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jaunte  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:10:15pm
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lawhawk  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:10:39pm

re: #97 Teukka

Fuck. Second mutation with greater spread.
South African Covid-19 variant may be ‘more effective at spreading’

501Y.V2 is even more contagious than VUI 202012/01 (which has caused UK so much trouble). Both are present on the British Isles.

Looks like someone rolled a lucky number in round 2 of my hypothetical dice game…

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:11:39pm

re: #94 thedopefishlives

Who is the “you”? If the “you” are Republicans, I doubt they are upset about Trump’s pardons. These are the fascists who are supporting Trump’s attempts to overturn the election results.

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jaunte  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:12:25pm
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Belafon  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:14:07pm

A cold front is coming through the DFW area, and the wind is rocking my car.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:14:19pm

re: #7 jaunte

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I’m pretty much with the child.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:15:27pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:15:59pm

re: #104 thedopefishlives

Somebody’s about to get caught up.

Here is a chapter by chapter analysis of Atlas Shrugged so you don’t have to RTWT

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:16:14pm

re: #111 Patricia Kayden

“Adults”

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thedopefishlives  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:16:39pm

re: #113 The Ghost of a Flea

“Adults”

Get out of my head, you.

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Teukka  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:18:21pm

re: #106 lawhawk

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Yeah. It’s circumstantial. But it’s the kind of circumstantial which has an eerie track record. It’s to be expected that given enough opportunities to mutate, it will mutate to something nastier. And if it’s a mutation which allows it to spread more, it means more oppurtunities to mutate…

The Crowned Bastard™’s xmas/festivus present to us all. Nice eh?

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Teukka  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:21:18pm

re: #115 Teukka

Yeah. It’s circumstantial. But it’s the kind of circumstantial which has an eerie track record. It’s to be expected that given enough opportunities to mutate, it will mutate to something nastier. And if it’s a mutation which allows it to spread more, it means more oppurtunities to mutate…

The Crowned Bastard™’s xmas/festivus present to us all. Nice eh?

Why the last tweet in my earlier tweet thread read “Recognize those who do not take the recommended measures, as well as anyone pandering to them, for the risks to peoples lives and health they are.”

In a cartoon world, somewhere in a hideout, a villain chuckles maniacally, having found a way to trick people into giving a pathogen ample opportunity to mutate.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:21:27pm

re: #15 A Mom Anon

OK I want to know what Donnie is being promised for doing all this ugly shit, but he didn’t think of all these himself. He’s too fucking self absorbed and proudly stupid to have any idea who all these people are. Like the Blackwater contractors, what is he getting in return for that evil shit?

I seriously hope this asshole stays in his little Florida fortress and doesn’t come back. I doubt we’ll be that lucky, but I can dream a little maybe?

With the Blackwater pardons, he gains additional approval with Erik Prince and his empire, which has a ripple effect throughout the soldier-of-fortune/gun nut culture and ultimately with the NRA and its Russian accomplices. It also helps mercenary morale and heightens their sense of their own invincibility, both possibly useful in the near future.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:26:09pm

re: #112 The Pie Overlord!

Here is a chapter by chapter analysis of Atlas Shrugged so you don’t have to RTWT

Somebody took THREE YEARS to blog Atlas Shrugged and tell you all the ways it sucked.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:29:15pm

A history instructor I know swears that he once had a student who blamed the Spanish-American War on “communist aggression in Cuba.”

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lawhawk  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:32:00pm

RIP: Leslie West. Died of a heart attack. He had been suffering health issues for a while now, including losing a leg to complications from diabetes.

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jaunte  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:32:41pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:32:59pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:34:29pm

re: #103 Patricia Kayden

Sasse is typical of “principled” Republicans - they make noises… and still do the party line.

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Teukka  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:40:13pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:40:44pm

Because I like being a broken record, let me again emphasize this:

Until whoever (the Democratic party, network talking heads, etc.) are willing to discuss the underlying cause of Trump support, all the noise making is not going to accomplish much.

The bottom line is that tens of millions of Americans have spent their lives being programmed to be marks, to turn off their inquisitive mind about reality and truth.

They do this every week, sitting in pews (or fancy cushioned chairs) to listen to a guy (almost all are male) perform for them, in some sort of archaic ritual that combines self-loathing and self-exhaltation.

Trump is a brilliant con-man. He’s in general a terrible person, but he has one skill: identifying marks.

He knew to look into the churches around the US to find what he needed to exalt himself.

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Teukka  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:46:08pm

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Teukka  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:50:38pm

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William Lewis  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:53:22pm

re: #119 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

A history instructor I know swears that he once had a student who blamed the Spanish-American War on “communist aggression in Cuba.”

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Shrug. Had a history teacher in High School who said JFK was shot in 65. Would not let himself be corrected. I walked out and down to the office. I eventually came to an agreement that I would not have to attend his class and I’d write a paper on a history topic instead. I chose to do a paper on what was publicly available about the designs of Little Boy and Fat Man and how it could be used by terrorist groups/states.

Since those days much more is publicly available than was then. My Little Boy design was fatally flawed like all open ones then because of a misunderstanding of how the Uranium targets had to fit together. It would have squibbed out instead of exploding. That said, my Fat Man would probably have been good for 1 to 10 kt (or more if the builder had access to tritium :) The joy of good aluminum mixing bowls… LOL!

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Tahitinho  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:58:31pm

I had fun taking these photos, so I thought I would share. My camera is a Canon PowerShot SX530. It’s not very advanced, but it does have a 50X zoom. Sat it on the roof of my car, using a 2-second delay. The photos are not great… but that’s the point… it made me smile to get results as good as this with equipment not really up to the job.

I was amazed with the first one that I not only got Saturn’s rings, but the little bit of dark between ring and planet. With the second, overexposed to try to catch moons, I actually got 2 of Saturn’s, plus the 4 Galilean moons of Jupiter. On the night of closest approach, I was stymied by high thin clouds. Saw it with my eyes, though.

Jup & Sat, 2 days before conjunction
Jup & Sat & Moons, 2 days after conjunction (tonight)

Now looking forward to immortality potions and 7531, when I’m told there will be an actual eclipse.

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Teukka  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:59:21pm

re: #128 William Lewis

Shrug. Had a history teacher in High School who said JFK was shot in 65. Would not let himself be corrected. I walked out and down to the office. I eventually came to an agreement that I would not have to attend his class and I’d write a paper on a history topic instead. I chose to do a paper on what was publicly available about the designs of Little Boy and Fat Man and how it could be used by terrorist groups/states.

Since those days much more is publicly available than was then. My Little Boy design was fatally flawed like all open ones then because of a misunderstanding of how the Uranium targets had to fit together. It would have squibbed out instead of exploding. That said, my Fat Man would probably have been good for 1 to 10 kt (or more if the builder had access to tritium :) The joy of good aluminum mixing bowls… LOL!

An implosion gadget (Fat Man) would require know-how usually only found with state actor backing. A gun gadget (Little Boy) is (theoretically) in reach of terrorists. And a “fizzle” is usually in the sub-kt to 1-2 kt range in terms of yield. Not that it would make any difference, terrorist shit would be a ground burst, with all that means…

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austin_blue  Dec 23, 2020 • 7:59:34pm

re: #127 Teukka

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re: #126 Teukka

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You are killing me, man.

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Teukka  Dec 23, 2020 • 8:00:10pm

re: #131 austin_blue

You are killing me, man.

You’re welcome :3
Merry Christmas/Festivus!

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2020 • 8:02:30pm
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jaunte  Dec 23, 2020 • 8:03:47pm
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thedopefishlives  Dec 23, 2020 • 8:06:20pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

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What the actual fuck is wrong with these people. Marc Rich? SERIOUSLY?

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 23, 2020 • 8:07:09pm

re: #130 Teukka

An implosion gadget (Fat Man) would require know-how usually only found with state actor backing. A gun gadget (Little Boy) is (theoretically) in reach of terrorists. And a “fizzle” is usually in the sub-kt to 1-2 kt range in terms of yield. Not that it would make any difference, terrorist shit would be a ground burst, with all that means…

If you steal it you only have to hack it, not build it. And since the warheads are supposedly stored apart from the devices, (unarmed) that’s even easier to pull off at least in theory. Heaven forbid. At least with Pakistani weapons… Yikes. (Edited)

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Teukka  Dec 23, 2020 • 8:10:03pm

re: #136 Rightwingconspirator

If you steal it you only have to hack it, not build it. And since the warheads are supposedly stored apart from the devices, that’s even easier to pull off at least in theory. Heaven forbid.

Not that easy to do with a implosion device, which require nanosecond precision triggering the right shaped charge which implodes the core. And yeah, the PAL which stores that and other information is secure, it wouldn’t surprise me if it self destructs on enough tampering attempts.

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William Lewis  Dec 23, 2020 • 8:12:36pm

re: #130 Teukka

An implosion gadget (Fat Man) would require know-how usually only found with state actor backing. A gun gadget (Little Boy) is (theoretically) in reach of terrorists. And a “fizzle” is usually in the sub-kt to 1-2 kt range in terms of yield. Not that it would make any difference, terrorist shit would be a ground burst, with all that means…

Let’s just say that anyone with a working knowledge of shaped charge demolitions could put together a working implosion. The real secret all those years was that it was not as difficult as they made it out to be. It’s not anywhere near as fussy as the various stages needed to trigger a fusion device.

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Teukka  Dec 23, 2020 • 8:17:42pm

re: #138 William Lewis

Let’s just say that anyone with a working knowledge of shaped charge demolitions could put together a working implosion. The real secret all those years was that it was not as difficult as they made it out to be. It’s not anywhere near as fussy as the various stages needed to trigger a fusion device.

This is true. But I seem to recall that the wavefront propagation is very precise to achieve full yield, or if you use anything else than the original Fat Man / Trinity shaped charge.

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William Lewis  Dec 23, 2020 • 8:24:27pm

re: #139 Teukka

This is true. But I seem to recall that the wavefront propagation is very precise to achieve full yield, or if you use anything else than the original Fat Man / Trinity shaped charge.

maximum yeild? Sure, the more precise the better. Something that makes even a Tallboy or Grand Slam seem small? Well, now that’s a different game.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 23, 2020 • 8:36:40pm

re: #91 Sherlock Hound

Ayn Rand devotes most of a chapter describing a train that is forced to enter a tunnel. She took a LOT of words to describe the doomed passengers, who in her voluminous prose, completely deserved what happened to them. It is a seminal moment in Randian psychopathy.

Over 45 years ago, I read Atlas Shrugged — and once was enough. I remember how Rand took such great pleasure in demonizing people who had compassion for others and celebrated their deaths. It was a chore that I felt compelled to complete to be “educated”. Hated every character in the book, except for one person — Eddie? — who worked for our “heroine” and was the only character who was human. Her villains were disgusting and her heroes were detestable and her plot was a celebration of evil and cruelty.


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