Seth Meyers: More Shocking Jan. 6 Texts Reveal GOP Lawmakers Planning Coup Attempt

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1
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 10:41:14am
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No Malarkey!  Dec 17, 2021 • 10:42:24am

Terrorist is finding out.

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retired cynic  Dec 17, 2021 • 10:43:16am

The most interesting cats in the world?
(probably not, but they are the most interesting cats in my house!)

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 17, 2021 • 10:44:02am

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Lies.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 10:46:36am

Another Summer photoshoot

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No Malarkey!  Dec 17, 2021 • 10:47:14am

I’m liking this judge,

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 10:48:21am
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Dopamine Fish  Dec 17, 2021 • 10:52:23am

By the way, I don’t know if it’s been posted here, but the Fucker Carlson defense lost in court yesterday, when a judge denied a motion to dismiss in the case of Dominion Voting Systems v. Fox News Network. Here’s the end of a tweet-thread concerning the ruling:

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Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2021 • 10:53:18am
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 17, 2021 • 10:53:23am
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No Malarkey!  Dec 17, 2021 • 10:54:03am

Palmer finds out.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 17, 2021 • 10:54:56am

re: #11 No Malarkey!

Palmer finds out.

Not quite a book-throwing since it’s the minimum sentence according to the guidelines, but definitely a FAFO moment.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 17, 2021 • 10:59:47am

re: #12 Dopamine Fish

Not quite a book-throwing since it’s the minimum sentence according to the guidelines, but definitely a FAFO moment.

Longest sentence handed down for a 1/6 terrorist to date. If the violent terrorists thought that the wrist slaps the “tourists” were getting would mean light sentences for them, they were sadly mistaken.

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nines09  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:10:34am

Me and the wife got our CV tests. Now we await the results.
Cancelled rehearsal for tomorrow.
Going to do what I normally do which is avoid humanity at close range.
I’ll let you know what the results are.
I’m not a happy boy.

bbl

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retired cynic  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:12:41am

In my case, it would be a third kitty.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:13:00am

re: #10 Patricia Kayden

That video made me think of something from LA history. Before sprinklers were required our annual wildfire season often included old wooden roof homes and apartments with a death toll.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:18:30am

A guy set fire to his apartment building yesterday in Osaka leading to the deaths of 24.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:20:10am

re: #17 Barefoot Grin

A guy set fire to his apartment building yesterday in Osaka leading to the deaths of 24.

Why would someone do that?

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:21:03am

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Why would someone do that?

Spider.

///

In all seriousness, who knows? Psychopath, mental illness, maybe a mistake?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:22:54am

The woman - referred to in filings as Gabriele P. - will have to pay court costs for both herself and Clapton, reportedly totaling almost $4,000

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A 55-year-old German widow - named in reports as Gabriele P. - has reportedly been mandated to pay for court costs for both herself and Eric Clapton, after the electric guitar player successfully sued her over the sale of a live bootleg CD on eBay.

According to the German newspaper Bild, the bootleg, Live USA, was purchased by the defendant’s late husband at a department store more than 30 years ago. Gabriele then went on to list the album on eBay for €9.95 (~$11) in July, after which Clapton - citing the illegal nature of the album - sent the court an affidavit.

The Düsseldorf Regional Court ruled in Clapton’s favor, and yesterday (December 15) rejected Gabriele P’s appeal on the initial ruling, saying that the facts that she neither bought the CD herself initially nor knew, at the time she listed it on eBay, that it was a bootleg, were immaterial.

Gabriele P. now reportedly faces either a €250,000 fine or six-month prison sentence if she continues her efforts to sell the album.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:24:51am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Forgot who said it here yesterday, but I really do think Trump saw COVID ravaging NY and CA in the beginning and it was his way of getting revenge on people that didn’t vote fit him.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:24:57am

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dick move. Shoulda just bought the CD.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:25:26am
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nines09  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:26:26am

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

You would think a man such as Eric would have bigger fish to fry.
Meltdown.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:26:53am

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

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jaunte  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:29:18am

re: #8 Dopamine Fish

Next the Lou Dobbs is just a Contractor defense.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:30:53am

this is soooo good

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:31:13am

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

And that’s why I haven’t bought Nikes in years.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:31:50am

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

Any story sourced to the Daily Caller should be assumed to be distorted and misrepresented, and I’d be very surprised if this one wasn’t.

Wyden said he’s blocking the bill until Congress approves the child tax credit extension. And I don’t think you can buy a congressman’s vote with a mere $60,000.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:31:50am

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Why would someone do that?

Trying to check on the Asahi website. It was a multi-purpose building and apparently a man entered a clinic located on the fourth floor with bag containing flammable material, stomped on it so that it spread out, and then lit it on fire. Most of the victims died of smoke inhalation, it seems. A motive is not given. In fact, their not even certain if he died, is one of three now in hospital, of fled.

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jaunte  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:32:34am

Republicans continue their flight into fantasy land:

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:34:58am

re: #31 jaunte

Republicans continue their flight into fantasy land:

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“Big Lie Politics” should be on every Democrat’s lips going forward. That’s good stuff.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:36:14am

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

*Deleted for being factually wrong* Sorry, my bad.

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jaunte  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:36:29am

Remember when A. P. Hill drove back Antifa at Antietam?

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retired cynic  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:36:52am

re: #33 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Ron Wyden is a progressive Democrat!

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:40:19am

re: #35 retired cynic

Ron Wyden is a progressive Democrat!

Yeah, so I found out. Deleted the post (and tweet) for being factually wrong.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:43:11am

re: #3 retired cynic

The most interesting cats in the world?

Oh, I think they are!!!

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:44:16am
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retired cynic  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:45:36am

This is amazing!

youtube.com

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Jay C  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:46:11am

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I agree that this is pretty dick move on Clapton’s part. Yeah, we all know that bootlegging and piracy of content is a *serious* issue, but putting himself out as the headliner in case against some random eBay lister over a €10 CD? (I think he should have gotten someone else: agent? manager? lawyer? to front for him) - just makes him look (even more) like an asshole. Especially as the woman is on the hook for court costs.

On the other hand, “Gabrielle P.” should feel fortunate that she doesn’t live in North Korea….

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retired cynic  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:46:43am

re: #39 retired cynic

It is a 4K video of NASA footage on Mars. c10 minutes of wonder.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:49:06am

I stepped on some thin curved glass in my kitchen. Fortunately, the edges were down, and it just crunched instead of cutting. My refrigerator and oven bulbs are intact, and I can’t find any broken bulbs anywhere.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:51:45am

re: #39 retired cynic

To post a YouTube video in a comment, just copy the web page address of the video and paste it in. No need to use the embed link. Then it will be automatically transformed into an embedded video.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:52:20am

re: #42 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I stepped on some thin curved glass in my kitchen. Fortunately, the edges were down, and it just crunched instead of cutting. My refrigerator and oven bulbs are intact, and I can’t find any broken bulbs anywhere.

I’m afraid you have a poltergeist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:53:50am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:54:14am

This is how Abbott and the fascists intend to enforce their edicts once they snarl and delegitimize the election.
In Texas Border Town, Armed Groups Arrive to Look for Migrants

State law that allows migrants to be arrested for trespassing draws armed citizens, in some cases welcomed by county officials

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:57:15am

re: #44 Charles Johnson

I’m afraid you have a poltergeist.

At least they brought their own stuff to break.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 11:57:37am
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:01:06pm

re: #39 retired cynic

This is amazing!

youtube.com

Very cool. So if someone died on a voyage to Mars and the body were released into space, would it just float eternally without decomposing?

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:02:14pm

re: #50 Barefoot Grin

Very cool. So if someone died on a voyage to Mars and the body were released into space, would it just float eternally without decomposing?

It would freeze solid within a matter of minutes.

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:02:53pm
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lawhawk  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:03:38pm

Top line takeaway. The surge in cases is primarily among unvaccinated. The surge in hospitalizations is overwhelmingly among unvaccinated. Omicron will mess your shit up. Delta will mess your shit up.

Don’t let either mess your shit up. Get vaccinated and mask and take proper precautions. The life you save may be your own.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:05:36pm

re: #46 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

This is how Abbott and the fascists intend to enforce their edicts once they snarl and delegitimize the election.
In Texas Border Town, Armed Groups Arrive to Look for Migrants

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:08:12pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:09:25pm

re: #50 Barefoot Grin

Very cool. So if someone died on a voyage to Mars and the body were released into space, would it just float eternally without decomposing?

I’d think it would break down over time due to sunlight and the radiation from the sun that’s blocked by Earth’s magnetic field.

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nines09  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:12:16pm

Eagles and Washington football game planned on Sunday is postponed till Tuesday because so many Washington team members are either with Covid or in protocols because of exposure.
Looking a lot like last year at this time.
NHL had postponed games and last night Montreal Canadians played the Flyers in an empty arena.
Oh boy.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:16:32pm
You have 48 people in the Democratic caucus who are prepared, and a president of the United States prepared to think big. And you have two Democrats who, in my view, are kind of acting like Republicans. And to me, I respect other people’s points of view, but I do not respect the arrogance of any member of the senate who says, “You know what? I’m going to torpedo this entire bill, supported overwhelmingly by the American people…”

You’ve got two people saying, “You know what? Hey, if you don’t do it my way - I don’t care what the president wants, I don’t care what 48 of my colleagues want - it’s my way or the highway.” And that, I regard as arrogance. You can disagree. Look, I have disagreements, as you well know. You fight for your ideas but you don’t say, “My way or the highway.” And that I feel very strongly about.

Bernie Sanders Torches Manchin and Sinema for ‘Arrogance’ and ‘Acting Like Republicans’ (Mediaite)

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:17:08pm

Brutal, but fair.

— Jaxson Davidson (@jaxson_davidson) December 15, 2021

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:21:02pm

re: #59 Scottish Dragon

Brutal, but fair.

The responses are all basically “fuck you,” but I still felt a need to pile on.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:21:20pm

Money is imaginary.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:22:54pm

re: #56 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I’d think it would break down over time due to sunlight and the radiation from the sun that’s blocked by Earth’s magnetic field.

That process is a hell of a lot slower than the breakdown due to atmospheric oxygen and aerobic bacteria here on earth. Radiation doesn’t actually turn your organs to mush; it damages your DNA so that your body turns itself to mush.

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CleverToad  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:25:28pm

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:26:03pm

re: #62 Dopamine Fish

That process is a hell of a lot slower than the breakdown due to atmospheric oxygen and aerobic bacteria here on earth. Radiation doesn’t actually turn your organs to mush; it damages your DNA so that your body turns itself to mush.

It would take a long time, but I’d expect every atom in the body to eventually break down.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:27:26pm

I have to admit I’m not as negative about cryptocurrency as some. I’ve been looking into it quite a bit recently and sure, there are lots of scammers, but there are lots of scammers using regular old US dollars too. I’m not completely sold on it, the value fluctuates wildly and I’m not about to convert all my cash to Ether, but it’s too large at this point to ignore. And as I said, yeah, it’s imaginary money, but so are greenbacks.

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:28:02pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

Money is imaginary.

Not imaginary, but somewhat abstract. Fiat currency is at least backed by a government and banks with tangible assets even if the currency itself isn’t directly backed by gold or another commodity.

Crypto and NFT’s?

I cannot for the life of me understand a currency that is nothing more than data with a blockchain derived from a private party algorithm for ease of use by criminals.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:30:19pm

My college-aged son has invested a bit in crypto-currency, I think. He’s been trying to convince me that it’s real and the direction of the future. I kind of hope I don’t live that long. OTOH, if he’s right and it somehow helps him pay off student loans, I might rethink my stance.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:30:59pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:32:17pm

re: #67 Barefoot Grin

My college-aged son has invested a bit in crypto-currency, I think. He’s been trying to convince me that it’s real and the direction of the future. I kind of hope I don’t live that long. OTOH, if he’s right and it somehow helps him pay off student loans, I might rethink my stance.

It depends on their being a larger fool, but early adopters can grift a lot of money.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:34:42pm

re: #65 Charles Johnson

I have to admit I’m not as negative about cryptocurrency as some. I’ve been looking into it quite a bit recently and sure, there are lots of scammers, but there are lots of scammers using regular old US dollars too. I’m not completely sold on it, the value fluctuates wildly and I’m not about to convert all my cash to Ether, but it’s too large at this point to ignore. And as I said, yeah, it’s imaginary money, but so are greenbacks.

I think you know I’m not a gold bug or advocate for that as anything other than a small part of one’s assets. (Metal not paper!) But with that option in hand, personally, I do not see the appeal. My other thought is that the pioneers got the arrows and the settlers got the farm.

Someday, interest paying accounts will be an option again. Getting there may be a long hard journey. IMHO everything that can swing so wild is a trip to Vegas without the car.

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ckkatz  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:37:36pm

re: #58 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Bernie Sanders Torches Manchin and Sinema for ‘Arrogance’ and ‘Acting Like Republicans’ (Mediaite)

Yes! Thursday night Amy Klobuchar was on at 7pm talking to host Joy Reid. Senator Klobauchar sounded like she was almost in tears with frustration at Manchin’s antics. An hour later Bernie was on with Chris Hayes and, as you note, Sanders was in a “take no prisoners” mood.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:38:08pm

re: #56 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I’d think it would break down over time due to sunlight and the radiation from the sun that’s blocked by Earth’s magnetic field.

or turn into a comet…

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:40:06pm

Of course it’s in Austrailia.

The name “millipede” translates to a thousand feet (from mille “thousand” and pes “foot”). However, no millipede has ever been described with more than 750 legs. We discovered a new record-setting species of millipede with 1,306 legs, Eumillipes persephone, from Western Australia. This diminutive animal (0.95 mm wide, 95.7 mm long) has 330 segments, a cone-shaped head with enormous antennae, and a beak for feeding. A distant relative of the previous record holder, Illacme plenipes from California, it belongs to a different order, the Polyzoniida. Discovered 60 m below ground in a drill hole created for mineral exploration, E. persephone possesses troglomorphic features; it lacks eyes and pigmentation, and it has a greatly elongated body—features that stand in stark contrast to its closest surface-dwelling relatives in Australia and all other members of its order. Using phylogenomics, we found that super-elongation (> 180 segments) evolved repeatedly in the millipede class Diplopoda. The striking morphological similarity between E. persephone and I. plenipes is a result of convergent evolution, probably for locomotion in similar soil habitats. Discovered in the resource-rich Goldfields-Esperance region and threatened by encroaching surface mining, documentation of this species and conservation of its habitat are of critical importance

The first true millipede—1306 legs long (nature.com)

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:41:41pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

I can’t possibly recall the title but there was a SciFi story where the crew got blown into various directions, one guy to earth. The last line was “look, mommy, a shooting star”.

I took a quick look at the orbit of the Tesla car that was sent into space. It has a wide orbit that includes where Mars orbits. But it also gets really close to Earth’s orbit. I keep thinking he will go get it back on a Starship.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:43:48pm

re: #59 Scottish Dragon

I like this response:

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:44:42pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

or turn into a comet…

That would speed up the decomposition process a lot, and they’d get to be a flash of light in the sky of whatever planet they fell to.

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prairiefire  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:45:45pm

Happy I can’t believe it’s Friday!

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:45:48pm

re: #76 Punish Domestic Terrorists

That would speed up the decomposition process a lot, and they’d get to be a flash of light in the sky of whatever planet they fell to.

We’re all made of the stuff of stars….

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darthstar  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:47:24pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Can the former president be sued for wrongful death? Yes, yes he can.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:47:39pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:47:57pm

The Wikipedia article about blockchains is worth a read, to get a sense of the territory. It gets a bit technical but not impossible to follow.

en.wikipedia.org

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darthstar  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:49:49pm

Cleaned all the mold out of the “Bellagio” and cleaned the pump out today to surprise the missus.

Video here - leaf blower started as I began recording.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:53:30pm
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EPR-radar  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:53:57pm

re: #78 Barefoot Grin

We’re all made of the stuff of stars….

Yes, I still remember my feeling of wonder when I first realized that every element heavier than helium on earth came from stars billions of years ago that enriched the gas cloud that became the solar system. And every element heavier than iron was formed in a supernova.

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EPR-radar  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:55:18pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

Crypto has a technical story and a political story. And its political story is that it is infested with libertarian dudebro tax evaders and worse, so I really hope it never catches on.

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:55:36pm

re: #74 Rightwingconspirator

Ray Bradbury, Kaleidoscope

“When I hit the atmosphere, I’ll burn like a meteor. “I wonder,” he said, “if anyone’ll see me?” The small boy on a country road looked up and screamed. “Look, Mom, look! A falling star!” The blazing white star fell down the sky of dusk in Illinois. “Make a wish,” said his mother. “Make a wish.”

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Captain Ron  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:56:13pm
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Dopamine Fish  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:57:18pm

re: #85 EPR-radar

Crypto has a technical story and a political story. And its political story is that it is infested with libertarian dudebro tax evaders and worse, so I really hope it never catches on.

Similar to Christianity, the tech dudebros have done more damage to any validity cryptocurrency has than the actual concept of cryptocurrency itself.

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Captain Ron  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:57:33pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:58:42pm

re: #86 Scottish Dragon

Ray Bradbury, Kaleidoscope

Great recall. Thanks. Glad I had the gist right anyway.

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Nojay UK  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:58:53pm

re: #74 Rightwingconspirator

I can’t possibly recall the title but there was a SciFi story where the crew got blown into various directions, one guy to earth. The last line was “look, mommy, a shooting star”.

Something like that happens at the end of “Dark Star”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 12:59:37pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:00:49pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:00:49pm

re: #85 EPR-radar

Crypto has a technical story and a political story. And its political story is that it is infested with libertarian dudebro tax evaders and worse, so I really hope it never catches on.

We’re past that point already. Those are all valid criticisms of how it started but it isn’t just the province of dudebros any more; there are banks in Europe that support both crypto and euros. The criminals no longer trade the most common types of crypto because controls have been tightened up a lot.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:01:09pm

“squandering”

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:02:33pm

re: #90 Rightwingconspirator

Great recall. Thanks. Glad I had the gist right anyway.

That final line from the mother has stuck with me for 40 years.

Make a wish.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:02:33pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

The Wikipedia article about blockchains is worth a read, to get a sense of the territory. It gets a bit technical but not impossible to follow.

en.wikipedia.org

I get it, I just don’t approve of it. The proof of work blockchains are massively wasteful, and even the proof of stake versions are less efficient than a centralized database. It’s for people who don’t believe in government.

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EPR-radar  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:05:18pm

re: #97 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I get it, I just don’t approve of it. The proof of work blockchains are massively wasteful, and even the proof of stake versions are less efficient than a centralized database. It’s for people who don’t believe in government.

Ditto with the don’t approve of it. It’s bad enough that governments have outsourced control of the money supply to the banks. Nothing good can come out of adding a crypto Wild West to this already serious problem.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:06:47pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

“squandering”

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darthstar  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:06:55pm

The fifth Beatle was the best Beatle. - There, I said it.

Finished the Get Back series last night and I’ll just say it…the fifth Beatle was the magic sauce…he only played one concert with them - the rooftop one - but Billy Preston’s keys were off the hook.

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darthstar  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:07:22pm

re: #89 Dread Pirate Ron

That’s only about 700K per case.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:08:12pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:09:42pm

Believe me, I’m not trying to convince anybody to get into Bitcoin, and yeah, it is sort of a Wild West situation now! But it ain’t goin’ away, that’s just the reality.

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b.d  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:11:04pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

The Wikipedia article about blockchains is worth a read, to get a sense of the territory. It gets a bit technical but not impossible to follow.

en.wikipedia.org

Why are you giving us homework on a Friday?

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:11:24pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:12:23pm

re: #105 The Pie Overlord!

You are dead to me now.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:12:26pm

re: #104 b.d. (The war is over)

Why are you giving us homework on a Friday?

Fair point.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:13:05pm
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:13:14pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:13:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:16:39pm
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darthstar  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:17:44pm

RFK Jr threw a party - vaccines and negative tests required.

He blamed the requirement on his wife.

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darthstar  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:18:48pm

re: #105 The Pie Overlord!

Jealous. I love chopped liver.

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darthstar  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:21:49pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

Fair point.

It’s not for the faint of heart, that’s for sure.
Market Summary > Bitcoin
46,393.20USD
-14,001.70 (23.18%)past month

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:24:19pm
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darthstar  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:24:20pm

Looks like a good crowd for boosters today two doors down - watched about thirty people walk by my driveway the last fifteen or so minutes. I’d like to get a #4.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:25:16pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:25:46pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve had both Moderna and Pfizer vaccines, so should I be extra-smug?

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Mike Lamb  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:25:50pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

“squandering”

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He won’t vote for Omicron relief either.

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A Cranky One  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:26:42pm

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:29:33pm

re: #87 Dread Pirate Ron

When we called up Kennedy for comment, he pinned it on his better half, actress Cheryl Hines of “Curb Your Enthusiasm” fame. Kennedy said the party was for her entertainment industry friends and cast members, and he was unaware of what the e-vite invitation said before the day of the party.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:32:12pm

re: #121 Eclectic Cyborg

When we called up Kennedy for comment, he pinned it on his better half, actress Cheryl Hines of “Curb Your Enthusiasm” fame. Kennedy said the party was for her entertainment industry friends and cast members, and he was unaware of what the e-vite invitation said before the day of the party.

It kind of implies, though, that Junior himself is vaccinated, don’t it?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:33:24pm

part of tonight’s supper

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:33:28pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Believe me, I’m not trying to convince anybody to get into Bitcoin, and yeah, it is sort of a Wild West situation now! But it ain’t goin’ away, that’s just the reality.

I agree. For me, the extreme volatility is a major concern.

And don’t fucking get me started on NFTs…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:35:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:36:35pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:37:39pm

I feel like someone with another skin tone would be killed, and the cops would say he was on PCP.

Palmer pleaded guilty to his role in the attack on the Capitol on 1/6. The government said Palmer threw a wooden plank at officers, sprayed the contents of a fire extinguisher at the officers before then throwing the extinguishers. He then searched for more materials to assault police with including throwing a fire extinguisher a second time.

According to the sentencing memorandum, Palmer was eventually pepper sprayed by law enforcement, but that didn’t stop him. The government said Palmer assaulted another group of officers with a 4-5-foot pole that he threw like a spear at the officers. He was then shot by officers with a non-lethal bullet that hit him in the abdomen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:40:06pm
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No Malarkey!  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:43:38pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

I had mercifully forgotten about that POS.

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b.d  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:44:42pm

re: #129 No Malarkey!

I had mercifully forgotten about that POS.

He needs to thank Greg Abbott for taking away his title of Worst Texas Governor Ever.

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aatharuv  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:45:15pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is not an aggressive strategy. He’s advocating for coup by gerrymandered legislature to overturn the will of the people.

CNN is white washing what Perry texted.

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gocart mozart  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:46:14pm
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KGxvi  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:51:28pm

re: #8 Dopamine Fish

By the way, I don’t know if it’s been posted here, but the Fucker Carlson defense lost in court yesterday, when a judge denied a motion to dismiss in the case of Dominion Voting Systems v. Fox News Network. Here’s the end of a tweet-thread concerning the ruling:

It’s an interesting decision, from a legal perspective. The Judge basically told Fox that their asserted privileges didn’t apply and that they likely don’t have First Amendment protections as reporters for the comments Trump and Powell made on their shows. As far as not stating enough facts the judge probably could have left it at “the complaint is 134 pages long and has 300 pages of exhibits” but actually addressed the facts alleged.

Now the questions are whether Fox tries to settle, if Dominion is willing to settle, and if the settlement will be made public. My guess is “yes, yes, and yes.”

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:51:34pm

I did not know that Cheryl Hines is married to the dumbest Kennedy.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. blames holiday party’s vaccine-or-testing request on wife Cheryl Hines (TheWeek via MSN)

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KGxvi  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:52:41pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Why can’t the states of GA, NC, PA and other R-controlled state houses declare this is BS (where conflicts and election not called that night) and just send their own electors to vote and have it go to the SCOTUS?

Because those states would have then been subject to losing all of their seats in the House?

Also, why risk the North Carolina delegation when that state went for Trump?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2021 • 1:55:03pm

re: #135 KGxvi

Because those states would have then been subject to losing all of their seats in the House?

Also, why risk the North Carolina delegation when that state went for Trump?

These people have a tendency to really not think things through.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:00:02pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:04:10pm

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

The loser is a symbol rather than a person to his fans. Trump the person is not anti-vax. He just doesn’t talk about it because when he does, his cult gets upset.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:06:32pm

re: #132 gocart mozart

Is it just me, or are balding clowns scarier than clowns with a full head of hair? Joker looks almost harmless to me by contrast in that pic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:08:12pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:09:18pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:17:18pm

re: #100 darthstar

The fifth Beatle was the best Beatle. - There, I said it.

Finished the Get Back series last night and I’ll just say it…the fifth Beatle was the magic sauce…he only played one concert with them - the rooftop one - but Billy Preston’s keys were off the hook.

A good friend of mine spent some time in an airport bar drinking Heineken’s with the only other guy there awaiting connecting flights: Billy Preston. He said it was time well spent.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:21:07pm

There was a short-lived branch of homo sapiens who once they set out on a journey never reached their destination. Yes, they were Meanderthals.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:29:46pm
Even as the world panics over the rapid spread of the Omicron variant of COVID-19, the health ministry in South Africa has delivered some encouraging news. On Friday, South Africa’s Minister of Health Joe Phaahla said that hospitalizations are down with Omicron cases compared to previous waves like the deadly Delta surge, and that people in the hospital rarely need oxygen and are less likely to die from the disease.

Phaahla told reporters that the country’s hospital admission rate of COVID-19 patients “fell 90 percent in the second week of the current infection wave driven by the Omicron variant” as compared to the second week of the Delta wave. Boiling down the good-for-a-global-pandemic news further, he said that only 1.7 percent of all Omicron cases are being hospitalized, compared to 19 percent of Delta cases earlier in the year.

They’re Already Past the Peak in South Africa’s Omicron Ground Zero (The Daily Beast)

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:30:38pm

Well, since everyone is off making dinner, I’ll make random observations. It occurred to me today when seeing the billionth “but what about the BLM riots at the White House” and I am trying to come up with mental images. Yes, there was some violence, but whenever I try to recall the footage the images I get are of cops beating the shit out of people in Chicago, Minneapolis, Portland, NYC, Buffalo, and yes, finally, DC.

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lawhawk  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:34:55pm

Of course it was a GOP lunatic who did this. The article should make it clear that his conduct was criminal. You cannot tamper with a public water supply. That’s exactly what he did. He tampered with systems he had no business touching. Even if it was for a limited time. The crime occurred.

Now the prosecutors should be filing charges and arresting this fucker.

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austin_blue  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:35:15pm

re: #105 The Pie Overlord!

Chicken or duck schmaltz?

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lawhawk  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:35:55pm

Alternatively, she and the rest of her family are fully vaccinated, and she’s just engaging in performative bulkshit to try and enrage her know nothing supporters to attack Fauci.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:38:57pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:39:40pm

It’s always projection Part 794349679479

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jaunte  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:39:43pm

NPR story at the moment frames potential winter of Omicron variant for the unvaccinated as “sickness, death and overcrowded hospitals,” but “not much in the way of new strategies” from the White House to prevent it from happening.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:40:16pm
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lawhawk  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:40:50pm

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

Even if Biden doesn’t get the BBB done this year, he’s already managed to do two huge pieces of legislation:

Biden’s covid relief bill and the infrastructure bill.

Those are transformative.

But media is like, he promised to do more.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:45:03pm

re: #151 jaunte

NPR story at the moment frames potential winter of Omicron variant for the unvaccinated as “sickness, death and overcrowded hospitals,” but “not much in the way of new strategies” from the White House to prevent it from happening.

What do they expect Joe Biden to do? Go door-to-door and slap people silly until they agree to get vaccinated?

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:45:32pm

re: #150 gocart mozart

It’s always projection Part 794349679479

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:46:12pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:46:53pm

re: #151 jaunte

NPR story at the moment frames potential winter of Omicron variant for the unvaccinated as “sickness, death and overcrowded hospitals,” but “not much in the way of new strategies” from the White House to prevent it from happening.

I just heard Andy Slavitt discussing what the WH could do and he basically said, ‘they are doing all they can but unless Congress starts to act on releasing money for testing, etc., there’s not much else at the moment considering the speed with which the omicron variant spreads.’

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:48:11pm

re: #65 Charles Johnson

I have to admit I’m not as negative about cryptocurrency as some. I’ve been looking into it quite a bit recently and sure, there are lots of scammers, but there are lots of scammers using regular old US dollars too. I’m not completely sold on it, the value fluctuates wildly and I’m not about to convert all my cash to Ether, but it’s too large at this point to ignore. And as I said, yeah, it’s imaginary money, but so are greenbacks.

All the obvious scams aside, it’s a way for glibertarian dudebros (and diabolical elite billionaires who take advantage of them) to take monetary policy out of the hands of accountable governments and into those unaccountable to anyone. Fuck the poor. Forced austerity by assholes. I refuse to go along with this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:48:37pm
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Dopamine Fish  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:50:18pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

Freedom without safety is short-lived, jackass. What good is freedom if you can’t live to enjoy it?

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darthstar  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:51:28pm

re: #118 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I’ve had both Moderna and Pfizer vaccines, so should I be extra-smug?

Took the boys for a walk…still about eighty people lined up on the corner for their shots. Guy with a clipboard came up to me and asked if I wanted a shot. “I already got boosted right here!” I was able to exclaim proudly.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:52:27pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He certainly did when he crashed his car.

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darthstar  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:52:57pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’d like to see him test that theory on the Capitol steps.

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aatharuv  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:53:07pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

Freedom ends at someone else’s face.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:54:46pm

Another “Freedom before Safety” dude:

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A Cranky One  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:54:58pm

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jaunte  Dec 17, 2021 • 2:56:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:01:33pm

fry bread got company:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:02:36pm

oops

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:04:01pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:05:29pm
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jaunte  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:07:13pm

Are we going to pretend there was a chance it wasn’t Rick Perry sending the text?

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jaunte  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:07:43pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:09:01pm

re: #171 Punish Domestic Terrorists

But these people ARE racist bigots.

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nines09  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:09:12pm

re: #172 jaunte

Well, the Dancing With The Stars gig bombed. And he was probably promised a few counties in Texas.

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darthstar  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:09:29pm

re: #171 Punish Domestic Terrorists

So they’re giving up social media altogether?

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:10:00pm

Another random thought: I was thinking about my son’s college application nightmare and remembering that I hand-wrote my essay for each of the five schools I applied to. I was accepted to all, and now this many years later I wonder if I was accepted as a hardship case for the hand-written essay on college-lined spiral-bound paper with some chads on the side.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:10:23pm

re: #172 jaunte

Are we going to pretend there was a chance it wasn’t Rick Perry sending the text?

It was Rick Perry
See: #169

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jaunte  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:11:33pm

“Rick Perry’s phone has some explaining to do.”

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Decatur Deb  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:12:05pm

re: #171 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Futile quest—it just says “Don’t be a cyberasshole.” If they weren’t inherently assholes, they’d be centrist Dems.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:12:15pm

re: #65 Charles Johnson

I have to admit I’m not as negative about cryptocurrency as some. I’ve been looking into it quite a bit recently and sure, there are lots of scammers, but there are lots of scammers using regular old US dollars too. I’m not completely sold on it, the value fluctuates wildly and I’m not about to convert all my cash to Ether, but it’s too large at this point to ignore. And as I said, yeah, it’s imaginary money, but so are greenbacks.

In my opinion, crypto is like the private currencies that banks used to print. Biggest problem is keeping track of what each is worth is a real task. In the 19th Century, before private currency was pretty much outlawed, it was a major business keeping track of relative values.

Of course every time a bank failed anyone whose wealth was mostly denominated in that bank’s currency lost all that wealth. With the attendant problems associated with that from failed businesses to poverty. As I recall the US had an economic depression about every twenty years during the 19th Century.

What’s really funny about crypto is that the people who endlessly complained about ‘the government printing money’ are now backing endlessly printing money. (snicker)

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:13:01pm

re: #174 Eclectic Cyborg

But these people ARE racist bigots.

You don’t have to tell people who are not racist bigots to hide their bigotry if they don’t want to be in the news for being awful.

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steve_davis  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:13:04pm

re: #39 retired cynic

This is amazing!

youtube.com

love the marathon valley shot, where you can see where the martian tractors have been going back and forth getting things ready for the late winter planting (hey, things grow slower on mars. the oxygen plants are dying. the water is all just running through the canals with little rainfall to speak of.)

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:13:44pm

re: #176 darthstar

So they’re giving up social media altogether?

I think they’re trying to go back to dog-whistles.

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Captain Magic  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:15:20pm

re: #181 Romantic Heretic

What’s really funny about crypto is that the people who endlessly complained about ‘the government printing money’ are now backing endlessly printing money. (snicker)

Bitcoin is fixed at 14 million.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:15:57pm

re: #185 Captain Magic

Bitcoin is fixed at 14 million.

Fixed by who?

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EPR-radar  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:16:24pm

re: #165 Barefoot Grin

United being a leader on vax mandates for their work force is the reason I’m flying with them this year, after many years of using only Southwest.

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austin_blue  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:18:10pm

re: #185 Captain Magic

Bitcoin is fixed at 14 million.

Then why do mining operations continue? Or, aren’t they?

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EPR-radar  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:19:47pm

re: #185 Captain Magic

Bitcoin is fixed at 14 million.

Which has two major problems — 1) it is deflationary, and 2) the fixed amount of bitcoin would inevitably give vast unearned rewards to early speculators in bitcoin, the more popular it gets (this is by design, of course).

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darthstar  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:20:12pm

Now this is a tasty looking house.

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EPR-radar  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:20:35pm

re: #188 austin_blue

Then why do mining operations continue? Or, aren’t they?

Ever more computer cycles chasing an ever smaller amount of bitcoin. It’s idiocy.

Environmentally and economically destructive idiocy.

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darthstar  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:21:15pm

The good news is that, if Rick Perry broke the law, he doesn’t have an elected role to negotiate resigning to avoid prison time.

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gocart mozart  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:21:36pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:22:11pm

re: #124 Eclectic Cyborg

I agree. For me, the extreme volatility is a major concern.

And don’t fucking get me started on NFTs…

Anything that alleges to be a legitimate currency needs to be relatively stable in value. If it’s not stable, it may be an asset (like gold) but it’s definitely not a currency. The dollar has “depreciated” 6.8% over the past year — not the past hour or past day. Wild fluctuations do not make a desirable monetary unit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:24:42pm

re: #188 austin_blue

Then why do mining operations continue? Or, aren’t they?

I’m not a tech expert.

But as I understand each it, new block that is mined and added to the blockchain is worth about 6 BTC. Because of how the system is designed, it gets progressively harder to mine new blocks. Eventually it will become impossible to mine new blocks and the Bitcoin max limit will be reached.

We’re not there yet, though. So the tech bros. will keep on mining.

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darthstar  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:26:44pm

Siri, show me someone with the tiniest dick on the planet.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:29:30pm

re: #196 darthstar

Siri, show me someone with the tiniest dick on the planet.

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I was never a great fan of Nazareth, but was there a Jesus in the band?

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jaunte  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:30:10pm

re: #196 darthstar

Here’s the granddad:

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EPR-radar  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:30:10pm

re: #196 darthstar

“Your honor, it’s true. The man has no dick.”

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nines09  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:30:17pm

re: #196 darthstar

“Why does your God need armored vehicles?”

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jaunte  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:32:34pm

The Lord is my lift kit; I shall not be driven low.

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darthstar  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:32:46pm

re: #197 Barefoot Grin

I was never a great fan of Nazareth, but was there a Jesus in the band?

He was more of a roadie.

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austin_blue  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:34:18pm

re: #195 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m not a tech expert.

But as I understand each new block that is mined and added to the block chain is worth about 6 BTC. Because of how the system is designed, it gets progressively harder to mine new blocks. Eventually it will become impossible to mine new blocks and the Bitcoin max limit will be reached.

We’re not there yet, though. So the tech bros. will keep on mining.

And this is where I throw up my hands and yell a lot.

If you have a finite resource (Only 20 Bitcoin out of a fixed figure of 14,000 remain!), you turn into the World Worm eating its own tail, spending $50,000 to acquire a $40,000 asset. And then what? The asset has limited its own growth and can’t be worth more than what it was worth on the day the last of a self-limited 14,000 has been mined.

Granted, I am a bear of very little brain, but it makes my head hurt.

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darthstar  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:37:50pm

I only have one arm to work with right now…the other is under the Eartha.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:38:47pm

re: #203 austin_blue

And this is where I throw up my hands and yell a lot.

If you have a finite resource (Only 20 Bitcoin out of a fixed figure of 14,000 remain!), you turn into the World Worm eating its own tail, spending $50,000 to acquire a $40,000 asset. And then what? The asset has limited its own growth and can’t be worth more than what it was worth on the day the last of a self-limited 14,000 has been mined.

Granted, I am a bear of very little brain, but it makes my head hurt.

It’s worth whatever Libertarians are willing to buy it for, and the idea is that the value keeps going up due to the finite supply. One Traganic Pu, for an imaginary example, could have the value of our entire economy, as long as you’re able to do transactions in fractions of the Pu.

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EPR-radar  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:38:51pm

re: #203 austin_blue

And this is where I throw up my hands and yell a lot.

If you have a finite resource (Only 20 Bitcoin out of a fixed figure of 14,000 remain!), you turn into the World Worm eating its own tail, spending $50,000 to acquire a $40,000 asset. And then what? The asset has limited its own growth and can’t be worth more than what it was worth on the day the last of a self-limited 14,000 has been mined.

Granted, I am a bear of very little brain, but it makes my head hurt.

Bitcoin speculators are counting on that bolded part being false, which it basically is. Asset values in speculative bubbles are irrational, and the whole point of bitcoin is that its originators (who probably still hold some ridiculously large fraction of all bitcoin) intend to be the early winners in a bitcoin bubble they intend to cash out of in time.

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(((Archangel1)))  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:39:11pm
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Dopamine Fish  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:40:22pm

The other part about Bitcoin - the part about “why are mining operations continuing” - is that the next Bitcoin is more difficult to mine than its predecessors, by design. So the growth curve is logarithmic, rather than exponential or even linear. This also rewards early adopters, who had to invest in less infrastructure to mine earlier Bitcoins.

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gocart mozart  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:41:44pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:41:47pm

re: #207 (((Archangel1)))

Or “Gah, who picked up the phone,” as a huge-for-the-day non-resumable download fails near the end.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:42:13pm

re: #208 Dopamine Fish

The other part about Bitcoin - the part about “why are mining operations continuing” - is that the next Bitcoin is more difficult to mine than its predecessors, by design. So the growth curve is logarithmic, rather than exponential or even linear. This also rewards early adopters, who had to invest in less infrastructure to mine earlier Bitcoins.

Just like a pyramid scheme. The people at the top are really the only ones who benefit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:43:15pm

re: #210 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Or “Gah, who picked up the phone,” as a huge-for-the-day non-resumable download fails near the end.

1. Start downloads.
2. Go to sleep
3. Wake up.
4. “Oh good, twelve new songs came through last night.”

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:44:26pm

re: #212 Eclectic Cyborg

1. Start downloads.
2. Go to sleep
3. Wake up.
4. “Oh good, twelve new songs came through last night.”

“Don’t stay on the Internet all night, you’ll rack up the phone bill.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:44:58pm

re: #165 Barefoot Grin

Another “Freedom before Safety” dude:

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You don’t suddenly test positive the next day after exposure — so obviously he was already infected at the time he testified maskless at the hearing.

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Dangerman  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:45:48pm

united airlines wants to know what i think

i think waiting on hold 45 minutes and counting to first speak to a live person is contemptible

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EPR-radar  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:45:52pm

re: #207 (((Archangel1)))

“You’ve got to learn to adjust the vertical or horizontal hold if the TV is acting up.”

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:46:24pm

re: #216 EPR-radar

“You’ve got to learn to adjust the vertical or horizontal hold if the TV is acting up.”

“Is the Atari on channel 3, or channel 4?”

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:46:37pm

re: #213 Dopamine Fish

“Don’t stay on the Internet all night, you’ll rack up the phone bill.”

At least it was a local call rather than long distance like many of the BBS systems that came before the Internet.

219
Dopamine Fish  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:47:11pm

re: #218 Punish Domestic Terrorists

At least it was a local call rather than long distance like many of the BBS systems that came before the Internet.

Yep, that’s true, and then eventually the phone company got around to developing dedicated Internet access plans.

220
Nojay UK  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:47:52pm

re: #206 EPR-radar

its originators (who probably still hold some ridiculously large fraction of all bitcoin) intend to be the early winners in a bitcoin bubble they intend to cash out of in time.

A British guy used to own 7,500 Bitcoins he mined in the early days when they weren’t worth much. Then he threw away the hard drive with the “keys” to those Bitcoins. It’s in a garbage dump near his home. Somewhere. He’d like it back.

221
nines09  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:48:55pm

re: #207 (((Archangel1)))

My old phone number was Baldwin 8-2729. My new one is Waverly 9-6790 or WA-9-6790.

222
Nojay UK  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:51:00pm

re: #211 Eclectic Cyborg

Just like a pyramid scheme. The people at the top are really the only ones who benefit.

If one person or group could control 50.0001% of all Bitcoins they could leverage that control to own all Bitcoins everywhere, the minority owners would effectively lose everything.

223
Dangerman  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:51:34pm

re: #216 EPR-radar

“You’ve got to learn to adjust the vertical or horizontal hold if the TV is acting up.”

who took the pennies out of the fuse box?

224
Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 3:52:07pm

re: #222 Nojay UK

If one person or group could control 50.0001% of all Bitcoins they could leverage that control to own all Bitcoins everywhere, the minority owners would effectively lose everything.

So would the thieves, since it would be worthless at that point. In theory, that stops that from happening.

225
Eventual Carrion  Dec 17, 2021 • 4:03:12pm

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Captain Magic  Dec 17, 2021 • 4:05:33pm

re: #215 Dangerman

i think waiting on hold 45 minutes and counting to first speak to a live person is contemptible

I got stuck with a T-Mobile hold time of more than 2 hours….

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 17, 2021 • 4:06:24pm

re: #225 Eventual Carrion

My two were on my bed like that earlier today. It looked like they were cuddling and watching TV, but the TV wasn’t on.

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austin_blue  Dec 17, 2021 • 4:07:17pm

re: #203 austin_blue

And this is where I throw up my hands and yell a lot.

If you have a finite resource (Only 20 Bitcoin out of a fixed figure of 14,000 remain!), you turn into the World Worm eating its own tail, spending $50,000 to acquire a $40,000 asset. And then what? The asset has limited its own growth and can’t be worth more than what it was worth on the day the last of a self-limited 14,000 has been mined.

Granted, I am a bear of very little brain, but it makes my head hurt.

re: #206 EPR-radar

Bitcoin speculators are counting on that bolded part being false, which it basically is. Asset values in speculative bubbles are irrational, and the whole point of bitcoin is that its originators (who probably still hold some ridiculously large fraction of all bitcoin) intend to be the early winners in a bitcoin bubble they intend to cash out of in time.

Ok, I get what you are saying, but what you are describing is a complex Ponzi scheme controlled by the holder’s of the 14,000 original Bitcoin, who will make a new “issue” of not-Bitcoin, let’s call it Botcoin, that will be a limited issue of 28,000 that will cost $70,000 per unit to acquire.

I mean, it’s a great way to launder your drug money and increase your profit if you mined your Bitcoin at $20,000 per unit, because Bitcoin will rise to $70,000 to reflect the new normal of Botcoin.

Brilliant!

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retired cynic  Dec 17, 2021 • 4:32:16pm

re: #225 Eventual Carrion

They ARE ladies!

230
SerialUpDinger  Dec 17, 2021 • 8:13:06pm

Natalia Lafourcade - Soledad y El Mar (En Manos de Los Macorinos) [La Fiesta Parte II]
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