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EstebanTornado1963  Jun 20, 2023 • 8:44:57pm

We got tix to see John Cruz at Sunset Station in Vegas Sept 16th

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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2023 • 8:47:20pm

This is what happens when you have a reality TV “star” for a client:

“In the hours after his interview with Brett Baier aired on Monday, Trump privately boasted about how well he thought he performed,” the outlet reported on Tuesday “As he asked others if they had caught the interview and what they thought of it, the former president and 2024 GOP frontrunner said the tension and parrying with Baier made him look tough, creating buzzy, attention-grabbing television, two sources with knowledge of the situation tell Rolling Stone.”

As Rolling Stone states, Trump “arguably confessed” to willfully withholding documents after he received a subpoena.

“Where Trump saw buzz, people hoping to keep him out of legal jeopardy saw trouble. Several of the ex-president’s current and former legal advisors watched on with exasperated sighs, and in some cases terror, according to three people familiar with the matter,” the report says.

His lawyers are among those most upset by the interview and misstatements.

“One lawyer working in Trump’s orbit messaged Rolling Stone shortly after the interview first aired, predicting the Fox clip would be brought up by prosecutors at trial,” the media report says. “‘It was a disaster, if you are his lawyer,’ says Ty Cobb, a former top Trump White House lawyer during a different special counsel probe. ‘And they’ll have more of those, because they won’t be able to keep him quiet…Trump gave the government an enormous gift [in that Fox interview], and they will be able to use what he said to assist them in proving the former president’s intent as to virtually all the charges in the Mar-a-Lago indictment.’”

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BigPapa  Jun 20, 2023 • 8:49:01pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

That is so fucking hot!

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jaunte  Jun 20, 2023 • 8:54:43pm
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darthstar  Jun 20, 2023 • 8:54:45pm

re: #3 BigPapa

That is so fucking hot!

Isn’t it though? I mean, he’s his biggest fan…and it shows.

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jaunte  Jun 20, 2023 • 8:54:57pm
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retired cynic  Jun 20, 2023 • 8:57:06pm

re: #5 darthstar

Isn’t it though? I mean, he’s his biggest fan…and it shows.

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jaunte  Jun 20, 2023 • 8:57:37pm

‘…Sen. Ed Markey joins MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell to discuss his bill that would expand the Supreme Court to 13 justices, updating it to match the current number of courts of appeals compared to nine in 1869. “This is a decision made by Congress,” Sen. Markey says, adding that it is “imperative” to expand the court given its “threat to the rights of the American people.”
msnbc.com

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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2023 • 8:57:45pm

re: #6 jaunte

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I’m so old, I still remember when Kagan and Sotomayer were seated on the bench, all the endless speculation by the Beltway about whether or not it would violate some timeless “precedent” if they chose not to recuse themselves if a case involving the Obama admin came before them.

All seems rather quaint now, doesn’t it?///

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teleskiguy  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:07:10pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:10:48pm

One of the occupants of the doomed Triton submersible was the son of a billionaire, 19 years old. The levels of tragedy and irony is kind of beyond comprehension right now.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:17:45pm

re: #11 teleskiguy

One of the occupants of the doomed Triton submersible was the son of a billionaire, 19. years old. The levels of tragedy and irony is kind of beyond comprehension right now.

His father was irresponsible to take him on the trip but Stockton Rush failed to warn the passengers of the true dangers they were facing; but then he himself was on the vessel and clearly failed to understand the risks of his vessel.

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Teukka  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:22:18pm

*blinks* Titanic is still ticking on its body count…

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:22:19pm

re: #8 jaunte

‘…Sen. Ed Markey joins MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell to discuss his bill that would expand the Supreme Court to 13 justices, updating it to match the current number of courts of appeals compared to nine in 1869. “This is a decision made by Congress,” Sen. Markey says, adding that it is “imperative” to expand the court given its “threat to the rights of the American people.”
msnbc.com

Unless this is coupled with some limitation on the time that justices can serve, we may end up with a 10-3 fascist court.

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Kilroy was here  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:23:03pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

If it imploded it happened in a couple of milliseconds. Human rational response (sense→reason→act) is at best 150 milliseconds.
At depth if an implosion happens the air inside a sub will imitate a very large piston on a very large Diesel engine. The air auto-ignites and an explosion follows the initial rapid implosion. Large blobs of fat (that would be the crew and passengers) incinerate and are turned to ash and dust quicker than you can blink your eye.

Mercifully quick, and I’d prefer this than running out of oxygen like the crew of the Kursk.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:23:15pm

re: #12 Hecuba’s daughter

His father was irresponsible to take him on the trip but Stockton Rush failed to warn the passengers of the true dangers they were facing; but then he himself was on the vessel and clearly failed to understand the risks of his vessel.

Sounds to me like Stockton Rush there had a little too much faith in his homemade jalopy.

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:23:31pm

re: #12 Hecuba’s daughter

His father was irresponsible to take him on the trip but Stockton Rush failed to warn the passengers of the true dangers they were facing; but then he himself was on the vessel and clearly failed to understand the risks of his vessel.

It is incomprehensible to me that someone would risk the lives of themselves and their children on a device that is scarcely more than chicken wire and sealing wax. As it is said, the rich are very different than you and I.

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teleskiguy  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:23:59pm

My mind *reels* thinking about the last moments of those folks in that submarine.

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Belafon  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:24:51pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

This is what happens when you have a reality TV “star” for a client:

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I was thinking that, if I were a public defender, I would tell the judge that I would only take the case if the judge was in charge of disciplining the client. The judge would have to be the one to act on egregious acts by Trump, not me. I will defend Trump against everyone but himself.

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:28:22pm

re: #15 Kilroy was here

If it imploded it happened in a couple of milliseconds. Human rational response (sense→reason→act) is at best 150 milliseconds.
At depth if an implosion happens the air inside a sub will imitate a very large piston on a very large Diesel engine. The air auto-ignites and an explosion follows the initial rapid implosion. Large blobs of fat (that would be the crew and passengers) incinerate and are turned to ash and dust quicker than you can blink your eye.
A human brain responds instinctually to stimulus at about 25 milliseconds. Human rational response (sense→reason→act) is at best 150 milliseconds.

Mercifully quick, and I’d prefer this than running out of oxygen like the surviving crew of the Kursk.

I would think an implosion would broadcast itself to all the sonar arrays that are currently deployed both nearby as well as those scattered around the Atlantic. Sound can travel huge distances under water.

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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:34:12pm

I keep coming back to the question of why there was no attempt at an emergency ascent, since such systems are usually designed to be separate from the main power and thus can be activated even if the rest of the submersible is dead as a post. And the only answer that makes any sense is that whatever happened was so fast that the people onboard had no time to react, with the most obvious example being the hull imploding.

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Kilroy was here  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:34:41pm

re: #20 sizzzzlerz

I would think an implosion would broadcast itself to all the sonar arrays that are currently deployed both nearby as well as those scattered around the Atlantic. Sound can travel huge distances under water.

That is true, but is the US Navy going to share that information publicly? The sub is/was smaller so it could have been much quieter and being battery powered and having only a single compartment their would be no reactor plant noises or multiple implosions.

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Belafon  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:35:52pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

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Have we gotten confirmation?

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:37:18pm

re: #22 Kilroy was here

That is true, but is the US Navy going to share that information publicly? The sub is/was smaller so it could have been much quieter and being battery powered and having only a single compartment their would be no reactor plant noises or multiple implosions.

Yeah, it’d probably just sound like “foomp” and that’s it. And I’m sure underwater mics pick up all manner of weird noises. Hell, remember a few years back, when The Bloop was a thing? Everyone was speculating it was some absolutely enormous marine organism…and it turned out it was just ice calving.

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Belafon  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:37:26pm

re: #22 Kilroy was here

That is true, but is the US Navy going to share that information publicly? The sub is/was smaller so it could have been much quieter and being battery powered and having only a single compartment their would be no reactor plant noises or multiple implosions.

I’m sure they would with a search operation going on. Not everything is a secret. With satellites, no surface ship is a secret.

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Belafon  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:38:22pm

I’m not optimistic that they survived, or will be found, I was just wondering if we’d heard anything.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:39:39pm

They had no business doing that.

They should have had a robot probe try to view the Titanic with the emphasis on TRY!

And I got a feeling that company didn’t have an insurance policy. Underwriters Laboratories would have reviewed the construction of that probe and said WTF and red- listed it.

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teleskiguy  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:41:14pm

It’s getting rather ridiculous. Conservatives all across the U.S. are convinced they’re being cheated and that the Vote is rigged and the only way to respond is with guns.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:46:51pm

SciShow dives into a topic most people avoid, unless you are a teenage guy:

The User’s Guide For Your Butt | SciShow Compilation



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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:48:07pm

re: #28 teleskiguy

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It’s getting rather ridiculous. Conservatives all across the U.S. are convinced they’re being cheated and that the Vote is rigged and the only way to respond is with guns.

So much of it is proof of G.I.F.T. (Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory) that says you take a “normal” person, give them an audience and anonymity, and you end up with a total fuckwad.

The ones who bother actually putting their names? They’re just garbage people, odds are most of them post such shit in social media because everybody around them has stopped paying them attention.

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Teukka  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:53:11pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:54:10pm

re: #28 teleskiguy

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It’s getting rather ridiculous. Conservatives all across the U.S. are convinced they’re being cheated and that the Vote is rigged and the only way to respond is with guns.

The whole “Vote is rigged” theory is Trump’s special contribution to the toxicity of our nation’s politics. None of the prior candidates ever made such allegations about our system. But Trump perfected this conspiracy and managed to persuade millions of Americans that was the reason for his loss. He still claims he won the popular vote even with Bret Baier insisting that was untrue, that Trump lost the election. Our democracy will not survive if a Republican wins the 2024 election.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:54:45pm

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retired cynic  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:56:15pm

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Cheechako  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:56:42pm
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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 20, 2023 • 9:59:36pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2023 • 10:02:49pm

re: #33 Joe Bacon ✅

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It only makes it funnier that the entire Hunter Biden investigation started five years ago under Trump’s watch, overseen by a Trump-appointed US Attorney, and was started to look into allegations of influence peddling to illegal foreign bank transfers. And the best that they could come up with was unpaid taxes and lying on a federal firearms background check.

Of course, the other important lesson is that, much like the documents that his dad’s lawyers found, the big difference between Hunter’s investigation and those against Trump is he cooperated to the extent that his lawyers found advisable. Not that that will stop Repubs from digging for any allegations they can find from “sources” in the investigation who believe he was less than honest.

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JC1  Jun 20, 2023 • 10:24:02pm

re: #17 sizzzzlerz

It is incomprehensible to me that someone would risk the lives of themselves and their children on a device that is scarcely more than chicken wire and sealing wax. As it is said, the rich are very different than you and I.

There’s a story in one of the UK tabloids about another rich adventurer who put a deposit down for this trip but backed out when he grew concerned about safety and design shortcuts.

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JC1  Jun 20, 2023 • 10:24:56pm

re: #21 Targetpractice

I keep coming back to the question of why there was no attempt at an emergency ascent, since such systems are usually designed to be separate from the main power and thus can be activated even if the rest of the submersible is dead as a post. And the only answer that makes any sense is that whatever happened was so fast that the people onboard had no time to react, with the most obvious example being the hull imploding.

Or they ascended and are trapped on the surface, waiting to be found.

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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2023 • 10:26:34pm

re: #39 JC1

Or they ascended and are trapped on the surface, waiting to be found.

That’s a possibility as well, though I’m curious why there’s been no emergency beacon or transponder to say “Hey, I’m on the surface, come find me.”

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JC1  Jun 20, 2023 • 10:27:25pm

3/6 for the second day in a row.

Wordle 732 3/6

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If this Twitter user is to be believed, Alito brought his wife to Alaska on that private jet fishing trip.

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teleskiguy  Jun 20, 2023 • 10:31:28pm

I carry a knife everywhere I go. I never did this, ever, until this spring. I carry the knife because I anticipate VIOLENCE in all my encounters in public.

Healthy society.

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retired cynic  Jun 20, 2023 • 10:34:11pm

My blood pressure just spiked. There was major violence and bloodshed on my back porch, just a few feet away! Two raccoons had quite a disagreement. I elevated off my chair, which is not easy to do, with the tonnage involved!

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 20, 2023 • 10:40:11pm

re: #24 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, it’d probably just sound like “foomp” and that’s it. And I’m sure underwater mics pick up all manner of weird noises. Hell, remember a few years back, when The Bloop was a thing? Everyone was speculating it was some absolutely enormous marine organism…and it turned out it was just ice calving.

The Navy has deployed sonar listening stations all through the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. Probably the Med as well. They are used in the tracking of Russian, and other nations, subs. I can almost guarantee you that they are capable of distinguishing the sounds of subs, and other man-made noises, from whales farting and icebergs calving. The array in the Pacific was how they detected that the Soviet sub, K-129, had been destroyed and, through geolocation techniques, figured out where it was. That led to a classified attempt to recover the sub miles below the surface. If this sub has imploded, it will be heard.

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teleskiguy  Jun 20, 2023 • 10:41:42pm

The only reason I still own guns (Springfield pump-action 12-gauge, 3-shot maximum; Browning .22 semi-auto long rifle, and a .30/06 bolt action) is because I know how to use them and they’re not pistols or semi-auto rifles, it’s nice to have ‘em with all the societal uncertainties. I’m extremely familiar with guns and how they work. And four people I knew shot themselves with guns, so…

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 20, 2023 • 10:46:05pm

re: #8 jaunte

‘…Sen. Ed Markey joins MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell to discuss his bill that would expand the Supreme Court to 13 justices, updating it to match the current number of courts of appeals compared to nine in 1869. “This is a decision made by Congress,” Sen. Markey says, adding that it is “imperative” to expand the court given its “threat to the rights of the American people.”
msnbc.com

13 is not enough because it would only pit 7 against the 6 assholes.

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JC1  Jun 20, 2023 • 10:48:03pm

re: #40 Targetpractice

That’s a possibility as well, though I’m curious why there’s been no emergency beacon or transponder to say “Hey, I’m on the surface, come find me.”

Apparently there was no emergency beacon on the thing, and if they lost all power then the regular communication equipment wouldn’t work.

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teleskiguy  Jun 20, 2023 • 10:48:50pm

I forgot and walked back to my car both times at the Umphrey’s McGee shows, I had to go back and stow away my pocketknife.

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teleskiguy  Jun 20, 2023 • 10:52:49pm

This is the way I see it. I’m steeped deeply in mountain culture, people carry a pocket knife everywhere, and sometimes a gun. Where I live, this is all normal. And yet it was right wing extremism that convinced ME to carry a weapon around everywhere I go.

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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2023 • 10:54:01pm

re: #47 JC1

Apparently there was no energy beacon on the thing, and if they lost all power then the regular communication equipment wouldn’t work.

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Captain Ron  Jun 20, 2023 • 10:57:19pm

Watching ADS-B Exchange it appears my wife and daughters flight from Paris landed at SFO.

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Captain Ron  Jun 20, 2023 • 11:02:44pm

re: #49 teleskiguy

I’ve carried a Carson flipper knife on my belt for 30 years. I could use it as defense but I’ve never had to. It is more of a handy tool.

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Captain Ron  Jun 20, 2023 • 11:04:10pm

re: #52 Captain Ron

Dry bike chain lube works well on the hinge.

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wrenchwench  Jun 20, 2023 • 11:05:34pm
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JC1  Jun 20, 2023 • 11:10:46pm

Banging sounds apparently heard on Tuesday. So they might still be alive?
cnn.com

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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2023 • 11:13:03pm

re: #55 JC1

Banging sounds apparently heard on Tuesday. So they might still be alive?
cnn.com

Perhaps. But there’s virtually no way to rescue them at that depth, not in the time they might have left before their O2 reserves run out.

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teleskiguy  Jun 20, 2023 • 11:20:57pm

Believe it or nuts I just sold these three pins for $350.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 20, 2023 • 11:21:39pm

re: #31 Teukka

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It reminds me of a home-made narco-sub with deep dive capability more or less grafted on.

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Teukka  Jun 20, 2023 • 11:28:53pm

😈😈😈

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teleskiguy  Jun 20, 2023 • 11:30:47pm

Never thought I’d make a profit from Umphrey’s McGee merch. Have I told y’all how much I love that band?

Here’s them playing a fuckin’ Pink Floyd cover at Red Rocks (yes, I was in the audience, of course, are you stupid?).

Umphrey’s McGee: “Shine On You Crazy Diamond” 07/03/2015

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William Lewis  Jun 20, 2023 • 11:31:14pm

re: #49 teleskiguy

Well, when I go out the door each day or night the bag I carry has this in it:

and then this in it:

and I always have this in my pants pocket:

Oh, and yes, I do have this in the bag too…

Pretty well set for the things I expect that life might hand me in northern Wisconsin.

Needless to say the camera & Leatherman are the only ones that see much use. The knife occasionally. So far the PPK/S hasn’t been needed and I like it like that.

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ericblair  Jun 20, 2023 • 11:44:46pm

re: #44 sizzzzlerz

The Navy has deployed sonar listening stations all through the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. Probably the Med as well. They are used in the tracking of Russian, and other nations, subs. I can almost guarantee you that they are capable of distinguishing the sounds of subs, and other man-made noises, from whales farting and icebergs calving. The array in the Pacific was how they detected that the Soviet sub, K-129, had been destroyed and, through geolocation techniques, figured out where it was. That led to a classified attempt to recover the sub miles below the surface. If this sub has imploded, it will be heard.

I wouldn’t be so sure. Sensors are generally tuned for specific characteristic signals, so unusual stuff can get ignored: this wasn’t a large military submarine but a very small submersible. Oceans are noisy, and there is a lot of shipping traffic in the North Atlantic. And the ocean itself is a very complex sonic environment, where there are essentially rivers of water of different temperature and salinity that serve as waveguides that reflect and propagate sound in different directions. You can almost be on top of a source and not hear it because the currents are going the wrong way.

If we’re talking about whales farting, google “Sweden herring farts”. Funny story, and wouldn’t happen any more thankfully.

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teleskiguy  Jun 20, 2023 • 11:47:11pm

re: #61 William Lewis

i refuse to own pistols, so I got that disadvantage. My coworker at the ski company is a pro photog and he just shot the Unbound XL gravel bike race in Kansas. Jace is good.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2023 • 12:09:37am

re: #48 teleskiguy

I forgot and walked back to my car both times at the Umphrey’s McGee shows, I had to go back and stow away my pocketknife.

I remember having to do that before BB King concert. I thought it extreme until afterwards when BB came out personally and shook hands and have autographs with the crowd.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2023 • 12:10:30am

re: #47 JC1

Apparently there was no emergency beacon on the thing, and if they lost all power then the regular communication equipment wouldn’t work.

This is why you get your experimental submersible tested and certified before you go risking lives in it…

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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2023 • 12:14:30am

re: #47 JC1

Apparently there was no emergency beacon on the thing, and if they lost all power then the regular communication equipment wouldn’t work.

They’re dead. Either they died instantaneously from a hull breach or (much more horrifyingly) are slowly suffocating in darkness.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 21, 2023 • 12:16:32am

I’m trying to imagine a two and a half hour descent in that cocked up submersible tin can (ok, titanium alloy but still) and I’m struggling with that.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 12:27:42am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 12:29:16am

re: #163 Romantic Heretic

Possibly.

I’m leaning more to the ‘useful idiot’ category myself.

I lean more into “active collaborator” myself.

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Targetpractice  Jun 21, 2023 • 12:30:35am

re: #67 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’m trying to imagine a two and a half hour descent in that cocked up submersible tin can (ok, titanium alloy but still) and I’m struggling with that.

Apparently that only applies to the “end caps,” the bulk of the cylinder is 5 inches of carbon fiber. To give you an idea, the Deepsea Challenger that James Cameron rode to the bottom of the Challenger Deep was 2.5 inches of solid steel. The DSV Alvin, the submersible that Robert Ballard used to do the first in-person survey of the Titanic? 2 inches of titanium. I’ve a very strong suspicion that if the Titan did implode, the fault lies either in the joints between the body and the end-caps or material fatigue finally adding up after multiple dives over two years.

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Targetpractice  Jun 21, 2023 • 12:55:07am

So I just got a call from someone with voice that sounded like a child whispering claiming to be a mother who stayed here last week that had some complaints to make. And ended with what sounded like a child having a laugh. If this were the 80s, I’d almost think I’d just been prank-called.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 1:16:53am

Another Capitol insurrectionist arrested in New Hampshire. He is a literal Nazi who lives in his father’s basement according to the filed police report.

He was identified through the public video and photographs posted to Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube which anti-fascists and researchers are circulating to help the FBI bring insurrectionist to court.

Man, this guy is fuqued. Impeding official proceeding, assaulting police, embezzlement.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 21, 2023 • 1:19:22am

It seems that billionaires may have a hubristic tendency to assume that anyone who charges an outlandish fee to cater to their whims is probably at least competent. They may figure that with so many people competing to please them, the ones at the top would be the best of the best.

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William Lewis  Jun 21, 2023 • 1:23:48am

re: #73 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

It seems that billionaires may have a hubristic tendency to assume that anyone who charges an outlandish fee to cater to their whims is probably at least competent. They may figure that with so many people competing to please them, the ones at the top would be the best of the best.

I need to find some billionaires willing to buy my pictures for thousands of dollars under that presumption … ;)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 1:35:16am

My wife just made Nova Scotia donair for lunch. BRB

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steve_davis  Jun 21, 2023 • 2:12:22am

re: #42 teleskiguy

I carry a knife everywhere I go. I never did this, ever, until this spring. I carry the knife because I anticipate VIOLENCE in all my encounters in public.

Healthy society.

I carry a Swiss knife because I once had to cut myself out of a seatbelt and I’ve never forgotten it.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 21, 2023 • 2:12:50am

Wading through Twitter (yeah, it’s a messy job, be sure to wear hip-high waders) and noticing quite a few Christian nationalists talking about shooting things because elections are “rigged”.

My belief is that American Christianity is en masse heading into David Koresh territory.

But, you may ask, what about all the “mainline” Christians who are not extremists?

Well, they are dying out. Or people are leaving their churches, “deconstructing” their faith.

As the fraction that remains shrinks they will become more and more hardcore.

Universalists may object, of course, but according to the real Christians, those Universalists are not real Christians.

Catholicism is going to have a minority fraction that make Opus Dei look like puppies. The Pope will not be able to control them.

Most Mormons will stick to themselves, except for the split-offs who are already among the most dangerous of fundamentalists.

How bad could it get?

Well, we see in east Africa how a single preacher can convince hundreds of people to kill themselves (or kill each other - it’s not clear to me.)

That story is pretty much ignored in American media and social media, because it really demonstrates how dangerous fundamentalist Christianity can be.

I am not sure how many singularly big events will happen in this country, but over the next two or three decades I expect several violent events.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 21, 2023 • 2:18:43am

Kenyan Cult Survivors, Still Refusing to Eat, Face Suicide Charges

The 65 cult members have been refusing to eat their meals at a rescue center where they are being cared for — prompting the authorities to charge them with attempted suicide, a crime under Kenyan law, and adding a further twist to a case that has shocked the East African nation.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 21, 2023 • 2:26:37am

Imagine how righteous you would have to be to call up angels to attack your enemies.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 21, 2023 • 2:31:27am

re: #79 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Imagine how righteous you would have to be to call up angels to attack your enemies.

Think about how righteous one has to be to get angels to throw cow dung. Seems below an angelic order but hey, if it works it works.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 2:33:38am

re: #71 Targetpractice

So I just got a call from someone with voice that sounded like a child whispering claiming to be a mother who stayed here last week that had some complaints to make. And ended with what sounded like a child having a laugh. If this were the 80s, I’d almost think I’d just been prank-called.

well is your refrigerator running?

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Targetpractice  Jun 21, 2023 • 2:34:22am

re: #77 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Honestly, the whole thing puts me in mind of the 90s, that period in time between the end of the Cold War and the beginning of the “War on Terror” where America lacked a clear outside enemy and so started turning in on itself instead. No “Godless” empire we can try to show ourselves morally superior towards with our “Judeo-Christian heritage” nor a constant military threat that we can use to focus our rage towards. That without such an outlet for all that rage and hatred, the MAGAts are left going to war against their fellow Americans. And it’s a war they can’t win because every effort they make to gain ground only further alienates them from the people they claim to be “fighting” for.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 2:36:46am

re: #79 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Imagine how righteous you would have to be to call up angels to attack your enemies.

he’s starting to flail because he’s seeing hints that his bullshit assholiness maybe isn’t gonna keep working

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 2:43:59am

“The Utah school district that drew national headlines for banning the Bible has now reversed that decision,” the Salt Lake Tribune reports.

“The highly anticipated reversal comes about one month after a review committee of staff and parents appointed by the district was initially determined that the Bible contained ‘vulgarity or violence’ and should have access limited to just high schools.”

found a way to weasel it back in

yes it’s got the same stuff we’re banning other books for.
but this book is “special”

the board determined “that The Bible has significant, serious value for minors which outweighs the violent or vulgar content it contains.”

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Targetpractice  Jun 21, 2023 • 2:44:10am

re: #79 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Imagine how righteous you would have to be to call up angels to attack your enemies.

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As the article points out, the GQP’s singular focus on the “Biden Crime Family” has been an overt effort to create a 2024 election season issue that would balance out the multiple trials Trump’s gonna be alternating between for the foreseeable future. Anybody else remember the almost constant talk by the Beltway press of how horrible it would be for the Dems if Hillary was indicted in the months prior to the DNC? How the party would have to scramble to find a new nominee to fill her spot because she’d have no choice but to drop out?

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TarHellion  Jun 21, 2023 • 2:44:12am

re: #81 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

My girlfriend in 1991 was an Austrian au pair - so still back in the landline days. A creepo would dial her house and begin talking dirty. She was still adjusting to full-time English and would just let him prattle on. She later asked me, “Vwat does it mean ven he says he vants to lick my bossy?” Just had to laugh at the concept of a dude trying to get his jollies with someone who couldn’t understand him.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 21, 2023 • 2:45:16am

re: #6 jaunte

The literal definition of quod pro quo. SCOTUS is corrupt to the hilt. But nothing will be done about it since this is rightwing corruption.

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TarHellion  Jun 21, 2023 • 2:48:33am

Took a 50/50 guess and missed, so took the par

Wordle 732 4/6*

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Targetpractice  Jun 21, 2023 • 2:49:21am

re: #84 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

found a way to weasel it back in

yes it’s got the same stuff we’re banning other books for.
but this book is “special”

“We must ban this long list of books because the inclusion of sexual, gender, and violent topics outweigh any educational value they may have to our school children.”

“And what about the Bible, which includes all of that and then some?”

“THAT’S DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE’RE COOL WITH RAPE, INCEST, MURDER, AND BLATANT RACISM IF CHRISTIANS ARE DOING IT!!!”

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 2:50:29am

re: #41 JC1

If this Twitter user is to be believed, Alito brought his wife to Alaska on that private jet fishing trip.

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meanwhile Kagan was actually concerned about the ethics of accepting bagels from friends

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No Malarkey!  Jun 21, 2023 • 2:51:29am

re: #14 Hecuba’s daughter

Unless this is coupled with some limitation on the time that justices can serve, we may end up with a 10-3 fascist court.

Imposing term limits to go with Court expansion would definitely be an appropriate reform, as well as imposing an ethics standard backed by fines and even criminal penalties, since Justices are basically impossible to remove through impeachment. The law should also prohibit the Court from reviewing the law so that the Court can’t make itself unaccountable by declaring the law unconstitutional. Of course, none of this will be possible unless we elect at least 50 Democratic Senators willing to reform the filibuster.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 2:55:05am

re: #35 Cheechako

Time for a break. Another historic tale from Alaska.

‘His neck stretched without warrant of law’: Missing gold, vigilante justice in Alaska and a failed 1907 hanging

That’s quite the tale. The most surprising part I find in the story is after he was hanged and survived

he sued those who did it to them and won.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 2:57:48am

re: #89 Targetpractice

“We must ban this long list of books because the inclusion of sexual, gender, and violent topics outweigh any educational value they may have to our school children.”

“And what about the Bible, which includes all of that and then some?”

Shorter: Nope. That’s our book.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 21, 2023 • 2:57:55am
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William Lewis  Jun 21, 2023 • 3:00:03am

re: #94 Shropshire Slasher

Some early morning drive time music.

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Nice. Made me remember this …

Garbage & Screaming Females - Because The Night (Official Video)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 3:02:50am

re: #47 JC1

Apparently there was no emergency beacon on the thing, and if they lost all power then the regular communication equipment wouldn’t work.

Emergency beacons cost money. Why would a billionaire who built a submersible out of chewing gum and barb wire spend money on a useless thing like that? /s

Emergency Marine Beacons (goes to Amazon)

The cost from about $28 to $600, depending on capability. I assume with Amazon Prime you get free shipping.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 21, 2023 • 3:03:17am

re: #38 JC1

There’s a story in one of the UK tabloids about another rich adventurer who put a deposit down for this trip but backed out when he grew concerned about safety and design shortcuts.

A rare billionaire who doesn’t have more money than sense. Mount Everest is littered with the corpses of rich thrill seekers.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 3:08:21am

re: #63 teleskiguy

i refuse to own pistols, so I got that disadvantage. My coworker at the ski company is a pro photog and he just shot the Unbound XL gravel bike race in Kansas. Jace is good.

I don’t own a pistol either, and only shot them in the US Navy. I’ll stick with my 12 gauge at home. Out in public, an attacker has the element of surprise if that happened, and a pistol isn’t going to save me. Getting the hell out of the way will.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 3:13:57am

re: #79 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Imagine how righteous you would have to be to call up angels to attack your enemies.

Well, if Biden is summoning angels to attack Trump, on what side does that put Trump?

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No Malarkey!  Jun 21, 2023 • 3:23:31am

A rare forced birth Democrat lost his Virginia state senate primary to a progressive Democrat, making it much less likely that new abortion restrictions will be imposed in Virginia. Since N.C. made it almost impossible for out of state residents to get an abortion there, and soon South Carolina will impose a six week abortion ban* (all but banning abortion entirely), Virginia will be the closest state to many women in the Deep South who need abortion care.

*The SC Supreme Court ruled the state constitution protects abortion rights, but the author of that decision has been replaced by a Justice who is almost certainly a forced birther, so once the Court reverses itself the new six week abortion ban will go into effect.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 3:24:41am

New Jersey Hindu is upset with us.

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William Lewis  Jun 21, 2023 • 3:25:10am

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I don’t own a pistol either, and only shot them in the US Navy. I’ll stick with my 12 gauge at home. Out in public, an attacker has the element of surprise if that happened, and a pistol isn’t going to save me. Getting the hell out of the way will.

That _is_ usually the preferred tactic. It’s not always possible, especially if you have others with you who are (or you yourself) are mobility challenged, as they say. Hunkering down can be the next best thing, behind any kind of barricade. The least desirable option is to take active measures as few people have the skills or knowledge to do that.

OTOH, few seem to realize that it is much easier to defend yourself with a firearm than with a blade. Getting up close and personal with a knife is hot, wet, sticky, and it stinks…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 21, 2023 • 3:31:37am

re: #76 steve_davis

Good morning. I hope you’re well. I wanted to see if Jesse has returned. And if not to see if you reached out to Animal Control or put up notices.

I haven’t been able to stop thinking about her.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2023 • 3:32:43am

re: #76 steve_davis

I carry a Swiss knife because I once had to cut myself out of a seatbelt and I’ve never forgotten it.

I carry one because it is eminently useful in many situations, sure glad I never had to use it in the one you described.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2023 • 3:34:40am

re: #84 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

the board determined “that The Bible has significant, serious value for minors which outweighs the violent or vulgar content it contains.”“

that same argument can be applied to any number of books,

the point here is that “there are references to sex/violence!” alone should not be enough to have a book banned outright without considering its significant, serious value for minors.

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Targetpractice  Jun 21, 2023 • 3:39:39am

re: #100 No Malarkey!

A rare forced birth Democrat lost his Virginia state senate primary to a progressive Democrat, making it much less likely that new abortion restrictions will be imposed in Virginia. Since N.C. made it almost impossible for out of state residents to get an abortion there, and soon South Carolina will impose a six week abortion ban* (all but banning abortion entirely), Virginia will be the closest state to many women in the Deep South who need abortion care.

*The SC Supreme Court ruled the state constitution protects abortion rights, but the author of that decision has been replaced by a Justice who is almost certainly a forced birther, so once the Court reverses itself the new six week abortion ban will go into effect.

No guarantee that state of affairs will remain in place for the foreseeable future. Governor Whitebread has made clear that he wants to pass an abortion ban and the only thing holding him up is the General Assembly being split down the middle. All he needs is to win 1 vote majorities in both houses and he’ll ram that bill fast enough to beat the land speed record.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2023 • 3:42:41am

re: #100 No Malarkey!

A rare forced birth Democrat lost his Virginia state senate primary to a progressive Democrat, making it much less likely that new abortion restrictions will be imposed in Virginia.

It highlight that abortion rights are a hot-button, red-line issue for a lot of voters

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2023 • 3:43:36am

re: #101 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Rationalist/Atheist are originally Satan worshippers demon is their god & they’re born to serve him.

Rationalism and atheism reject the very existence of Satan

He lies within the realm of ancient, backward superstition.

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Targetpractice  Jun 21, 2023 • 3:52:29am

re: #108 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Rationalism and atheism reject the very existence of Satan

He lies within the realm of ancient, backward superstition.

We’re in the realm of total pretzel logic that says that disbelief in Satan and Hell is itself proof that they exist and that any who express such disbelief instead secretly minions who are attempting to lure the faithful from the righteous path. After all, these are the same nutters who insist that atheism/agnosticism are themselves religions because those who follow express “belief” that God doesn’t exist and thus are guilty of being believers in a false theology.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 3:52:59am

re: #100 No Malarkey!

[Former Del. Lashrecse] Aird was backed by a slew of high-profile Democrats in the state, including Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), who were determined to oust the scandal-plagued Morrissey, one of the rare “pro-life” Democrats still serving.

Aird went after Morrissey by attacking him on his openness to implementing some abortion restrictions in the state based on his religious beliefs.

Sorry asshat, your religion doesn’t belong in secular law which applies to everyone, no matter how convinced you are your mythology is true.

Morrissey claimed that Aird was out-of-touch with the district because they were concerned with gun violence and economic development.

Surprise! People don’t like taking their rights away on the bullshyte conservative lie about “foetal pain” (the basis of his proposal for restrictions).

He warned that centring abortion in Democratic campaigns would come back to bite the party, and supporting Aird would be a losing cause.

Surprise. You can be concerned about all those things at the same time.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 4:02:06am

Now that sound was apparently heard from the Titan, the BBC started a new live blog about the search.

A submarine search and rescue expert in Australia, Frank Owen, tells the BBC his “confidence went up by an order of magnitude” when he heard reports of banging being detected by floating sound detectors.

“There’s a couple of reasons for that,” he explains. “Firstly, on board this craft is a retired French navy diver. He would know the protocol for trying to alert searching forces… on the hour and the half hour you bang like hell for three minutes.”

He says the sound signal being picked by a buoy close to the surface also suggests that the sub itself could be near or at the surface.

“Below about 180 metres, the water temperature drops very rapidly,” he explained. “That creates a layer that the [sonar signal] bounces off. But if you’re in the same depth water it tends to go quite straight.”

Even if Titan is at the surface, it will be difficult to spot. Very little of the small, white vessel sits above the water.

But using an array of sound-detecting buoys to triangulate the signal could narrow down its position.

(more)

bbc.com

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 21, 2023 • 4:04:08am

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Now that sound was apparently heard from the Titan, the BBC started a new live blog about the search.

(more)

bbc.com

It might well have been from the Titan submersible, but it hasn’t been heard again since Tuesday morning, local time.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 4:07:24am
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Targetpractice  Jun 21, 2023 • 4:08:04am

“Fetal pain,” the pseudo-scientific bullshit you belch out when you’re too damned scared to admit that your “deeply-held religious beliefs” say that pregnancy is a punishment that your deity of choice visits upon “whores” for having sex outside of the boundaries he set: As the broodmare for the husband that you swore to obey until they day you die.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 21, 2023 • 4:10:22am

There’s several guesses that could have been made here. I made one of them.

Wordle 732 2/6

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 4:17:21am

re: #109 Targetpractice

We’re in the realm of total pretzel logic that says that disbelief in Satan and Hell is itself proof that they exist and that any who express such disbelief instead secretly minions who are attempting to lure the faithful from the righteous path. After all, these are the same nutters who insist that atheism/agnosticism are themselves religions because those who follow express “belief” that God doesn’t exist and thus are guilty of being believers in a false theology.

That pretzel logic has existed as long as Christianity was aware of atheists existing in their spaces. Satan is ofttimes ascribed to anything a Christian doesn’t understand (hence why people with epilepsy or other disabilities have been demonised by Christians as long as the religion has existed). The Satanic Panic of the Eighties and again now is an extension of the same: Accusing anything you don’t understand as being satanic.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 21, 2023 • 4:19:06am

re: #116 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That pretzel logic has existed as long as Christianity was aware of atheists existing in their spaces. Satan is ofttimes ascribed to anything a Christian doesn’t understand (hence why people with epilepsy or other disabilities have been demonised by Christians as long as the religion has existed). The Satanic Panic of the Eighties and again now is an extension of the same: Accusing anything you don’t understand or don’t like as being satanic.

Addition made for accuracy. Christians feel empowered by their religion to declare anything they feel is immoral as “Satanic” in order to make it even more heinous.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 4:19:15am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that same argument can be applied to any number of books,

the point here is that “there are references to sex/violence!” alone should not be enough to have a book banned outright without considering its significant, serious value for minors.

How about don’t ban books just because you don’t like them

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 4:20:37am

re: #116 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

As long as Christianity has existed, it has asserted that all people know of the existence of God. That idea is embedded even in so-called proto-orthodox Christianity (the variation of interpretations of Christianity before the Catholic Church became ascendent).

If you know of the existence of Got and yet refuse to worship him, in the black-and-white thinking of religion you can only then be working for “the other side.”

What gets me about that New Jersey Hindu is she would assert atheists are working for Satan. Satan is a Christian god of evil, not a Hindu one (possibly cultural cross-infection since she lives in New Jersey).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2023 • 4:20:57am

re: #118 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

How about don’t ban books just because you don’t like them

that’s just the sort of thing Satan would have us believe

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 21, 2023 • 4:21:57am
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TarHellion  Jun 21, 2023 • 4:27:52am

re: #115 Nerdy Fish

It’s a bird. It’s a plane. It’s the dope and nerdy Beagle Fish making another appearance!

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 21, 2023 • 4:29:44am

re: #118 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

How about don’t ban books just because you don’t like them

It’s not just not liking them. They genuinely feel it is their moral imperative to keep anything they view as “immoral” out of the hands of all kids - not just their own. They can’t understand why people are upset about them trying to do good things “for the children.” They just want kids to be raised with the Truth.

Here’s the thing: As a liberal Christian, I understand the desire for kids to know about Christianity and why I feel it is The Way. The thing is, I don’t want to force it on them. The message of Christianity is one of choice; if you don’t choose to serve God willingly, then the whole thing is pointless. It’s entirely up to kids and their own parents what they can or can’t read, what they do or don’t believe. If my religion fails to make a persuasive case, well, that sounds like a me problem.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 4:31:04am

Teacher in New Zealand stripped of credentials for trying to impose her mythology on a student.

Christian teacher loses registration after refusing to use trans student’s pronouns (New Zealand Herald, June 19, 2023)

Oh wait, I called the teacher “her.” I’ll bet he would howl with rage if I asserted that positing a pronoun opposite of what you want is my religious belief against bigots.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 21, 2023 • 4:32:28am

re: #106 Targetpractice

No guarantee that state of affairs will remain in place for the foreseeable future. Governor Whitebread has made clear that he wants to pass an abortion ban and the only thing holding him up is the General Assembly being split down the middle. All he needs is to win 1 vote majorities in both houses and he’ll ram that bill fast enough to beat the land speed record.

True, if Virginia women want to retain their reproductive rights, they must get out and vote to prevent a GOP takeover. In any event, Youngkin just lost a vote in favor of abortion restrictions, so that’s a good thing.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 4:35:17am

re: #123 Nerdy Fish

It’s not just not liking them. They genuinely feel it is their moral imperative to keep anything they view as “immoral” out of the hands of all kids - not just their own. They can’t understand why people are upset about them trying to do good things “for the children.” They just want kids to be raised with the Truth.

Here’s the thing: As a liberal Christian, I understand the desire for kids to know about Christianity and why I feel it is The Way. The thing is, I don’t want to force it on them. The message of Christianity is one of choice; if you don’t choose to serve God willingly, then the whole thing is pointless. It’s entirely up to kids and their own parents what they can or can’t read, what they do or don’t believe. If my religion fails to make a persuasive case, well, that sounds like a me problem.

Consent is nowhere in the Ten Commandment, nor is it anywhere in the New Testament. In every society the majority religion has always reserved the right unto itself to tell other people how to live, and how to raise your children (atheists call this “grooming”).

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 21, 2023 • 4:36:59am

re: #86 TarHellion

My girlfriend in 1991 was an Austrian au pair - so still back in the landline days. A creepo would dial her house and begin talking dirty. She was still adjusting to full-time English and would just let him prattle on. She later asked me, “Vwat does it mean ven he says he vants to lick my bossy?” Just had to laugh at the concept of a dude trying to get his jollies with someone who couldn’t understand him.

What did you tell her? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 21, 2023 • 4:40:48am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 4:41:12am

Satanists are not atheists (Stars & Stripes, January 17, 2011, caution for text formatting errors in the article, with audio, two minutes)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2023 • 4:49:46am

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Satanists are not atheists (Stars & Stripes, January 17, 2011, caution for text formatting errors in the article, with audio, two minutes)

It is pointless trying to apply logical principles to people who still belive in primitive superstitions.

Atheists are seen as even worse because they are in thrall to Satan without even being aware of it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 4:57:33am

Salon, two days ago

“I too have been afraid of things that couldn’t hurt me. It is never too late to interrogate your fears”

I was a young teen when I destroyed my music collection in the name of Jesus.

I stood in the cul-de-sac with my best friend, Joanna, and we smashed our CDs to smithereens on the hot, hard asphalt. Scratched and snapped and broken into pieces, these secular musicians would never again whisper their ungodly thoughts into our young, impressionable ears—a thing we had been convinced, in church and youth group and summer revivals, would tempt us slowly away from our god.

Hallelujah! Free from … smooth jazz? Good Charlotte? No Doubt? I don’t remember which bands they were, but I do remember that anything not made by a Real Christian™ was trying to plant demonic influence in my very soul. So smash “Riot Girl” on the pavement; scratch “I’m Just a Girl” until it is no more. The devil isn’t in the details, you see: He’s in the music.

With that story as my Genesis, you won’t be surprised to learn that I grew up during the Satanic Panic of the ’80s and ’90s, when a large portion of the U.S. population truly believed that cartoons and musicians and a certain type of book were trying to convert their kids to Satanists. Rock music, they said, when played backward, contained hidden messages from the devil. The Smurfs were a gay cult. My Little Pony was trying to entice me to witchcraft (never mind that the witches were the bad guys). And an underground Satanic cult was abusing children en masse.

The only safe choice for us teens: Smash those CDs. Turn off the cartoons. Burn the books.

Be afraid.

(more)

I grew up in the Satanic Panic — and it’s happening again

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TarHellion  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:00:40am

re: #127 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Oh, I told her. Her reply was, “Silly Americans!” … I was working as a sportswriter for the local newspaper at the time and would take her to American Legion baseball games. The whole national anthem thing before the game freaked her out. Also, try explaining baseball to a European.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:06:54am

re: #132 TarHellion

Oh, I told her. Her reply was, “Silly Americans!” … I was working as a sportswriter for the local newspaper at the time and would take her to American Legion baseball games. The whole national anthem thing before the game freaked her out. Also, try explaining baseball to a European.

Europeans play national anthems before International soccer matches, at least at the World Cup and European Cup games

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steve_davis  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:13:49am

I’d left the front door partly opened at night in hopes Jesse would return, and now I’m stuck with this young cat who assumes there will be food in the bowl daily (which of course there is, because I try to practice charity.)

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Belafon  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:18:13am

re: #97 No Malarkey!

A rare billionaire who doesn’t have more money than sense. Mount Everest is littered with the corpses of rich thrill seekers.

What kind of billionaire would he be if he didn’t make $249,995 in profit?

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:21:41am

LOL, I love these retire in your 30’s stories. Ima claim bs on it.

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TarHellion  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:21:59am

re: #133 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yeah, just think the whole ritual of everyone standing, singing, and gazing at the flag reminded her of some other imagery from her country’s past.

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Nojay UK  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:22:14am

re: #133 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I’d say anthems are played at all international matches but the national anthems of both teams will be played with the host country given precedence.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:24:50am

re: #137 TarHellion

Yeah, just think the whole ritual of everyone standing, singing, and gazing at the flag reminded her of some other imagery from her country’s past.

Germans have a very uncomfortable relationship with the concept of nationalism and national identity.

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TarHellion  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:25:31am

Georgia poll workers cleared of fraud allegations. A prior quote from Ghouliani before a Georgia legislative committee really is offensive.

yahoo.com

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:37:46am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:40:45am

re: #84 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

found a way to weasel it back in

yes it’s got the same stuff we’re banning other books for.
but this book is “special”

I suspect the school district will now be sued. The Bible clearly violates the Republican law against violence and obscenity.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:40:57am

re: #114 Targetpractice

“Fetal pain,” the pseudo-scientific bullshit you belch out when you’re too damned scared to admit that your “deeply-held religious beliefs” say that pregnancy is a punishment that your deity of choice visits upon “whores” for having sex outside of the boundaries he set: As the broodmare for the husband that you swore to obey until they day you die.

like the equally bullshit 6 week fetal heart beat, it’s also intended to be a singularly sufficient / absolute argument ender / no rebuttal.

and to trivialize or totally ignore actual “mother’s pain” or any other risk or consequence to her

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:42:07am

re: #143 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

like the equally bullshit 6 week fetal heart beat, it’s also intended to be a singularly sufficient / absolute argument ender / no rebuttal.

and to trivialize or totally ignore actual “mother’s pain” or any other risk or consequence to her

Plus a “think of the children” fascist argument.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:42:42am

re: #141 Shropshire Slasher

I am confused, this can’t be the same fire.

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more info

At least two people are dead after a three-vehicle crash sparked a massive fireball on Highway 401 in Pickering, east of Toronto, on Tuesday night, Ontario Provincial Police say.

The collision of two transport trucks and a passenger vehicle resulted in an explosion and fire that consumed all three vehicles, on the highway near Brock Road at approximately 10:30 p.m., according to Sgt. Kerry Schmidt, spokesperson for the OPP’s Highway Safety Division.

Both drivers of the two transport trucks were found without vital signs and pronounced dead at the scene, Schmidt said.

He said the driver and a passenger in the third vehicle were not injured and were able to escape the explosion and fire.

Highway 401 is closed in both directions, between Westney Road in Ajax and Whites Road in Pickering, and will likely remain closed into the morning rush due to fire damage.

cbc.ca

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:44:09am

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Teacher in New Zealand stripped of credentials for trying to impose her mythology on a student.

Christian teacher loses registration after refusing to use trans student’s pronouns (New Zealand Herald, June 19, 2023)

Oh wait, I called the teacher “her.” I’ll bet he would howl with rage if I asserted that positing a pronoun opposite of what you want is my religious belief against bigots.

interesting how they always seem to know for certain how everyone was “assigned at birth”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:47:05am

re: #141 Shropshire Slasher

At the very end of the video a fire department talks about the loss of a helicopter, but it doesn’t appear to be related to the fire in the tanker truck on King’s Highway 401.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:49:41am

re: #86 TarHellion

I first read that as Australian, so the getting used to English still made sense.

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:51:14am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

Corruption and stupidity are the GOP game these days. You’re either bought and paid for by billionaires like Alito, Thomas, and other right wing extremists on SCOTUS, or you’re a dumbass who doesn’t know how to do basic math like this nitwit state rep from New Mexico.

$800 bill from Costco for 58 items? Doesn’t matter that just a handful were nonfood items? That averages to about $13 per bulk food item. It also doesn’t say anything about the other items that were purchased.

I’m in Costco almost weekly due to buying stuff for the lil’ man. It’s easy to ring up $100 just on diapers and wipes plus some fresh fruit (you can do 3 items and get to ~$100 pretty easy). There’s precisely zero context here as to what caused this high price or why anyone would suspect this to be due to “Biden” or “inflation”.

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TarHellion  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:52:50am

re: #148 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

That was a common thing she would deal with while she was here. People kept asking her about kangaroos and koala bears, instead of lederhosen and The Sound of Music.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:52:56am

re: #144 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Plus a “think of the children” fascist argument.

yeah

right now they are trying to solidify the position that the not yet born has inarguable superior rights to the actual born mother that cannot be questioned no matter how dire the mother’s situation is

if they want ‘personhood’ for the not yet born, i think then they lose
because it puts the fetus (or whatever stage) on equal footing with the rights of the mother. conflicting rights can be debated and argued in court.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:55:06am

re: #149 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

… There’s precisely zero context here as to what caused this high price or why anyone would suspect this to be due to “Biden” or “inflation”.

maybe she was thanking him //

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:56:17am

re: #151 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

yeah

right now they are trying to solidify the position that the not yet born has inarguable superior rights to the actual born mother that cannot be questioned no matter how dire the mother’s situation is

if they want ‘personhood’ for the not yet born, i think then they lose
because it puts the fetus (or whatever stage) on equal footing with the rights of the mother. conflicting rights can be debated and argued in court.

Their “argument,” such as it is, goes as follows: The unborn should have all the rights of the living, but because they are unborn, they have no ability to defend those rights from the evil abortionists who would take them away. Therefore, they have to legislate those rights into existence by banning abortions, so that the unborn have a fair chance to have their rights taken away the correct way.

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Belafon  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:57:37am

re: #149 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

Corruption and stupidity are the GOP game these days. You’re either bought and paid for by billionaires like Alito, Thomas, and other right wing extremists on SCOTUS, or you’re a dumbass who doesn’t know how to do basic math like this nitwit state rep from New Mexico.

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$800 bill from Costco for 58 items? Doesn’t matter that just a handful were nonfood items? That averages to about $13 per bulk food item. It also doesn’t say anything about the other items that were purchased.

I’m in Costco almost weekly due to buying stuff for the lil’ man. It’s easy to ring up $100 just on diapers and wipes plus some fresh fruit (you can do 3 items and get to ~$100 pretty easy). There’s precisely zero context here as to what caused this high price or why anyone would suspect this to be due to “Biden” or “inflation”.

They’re cowards and won’t let people reply. I thought Republicans liked debate.

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:58:04am

Trump is in real trouble when his current crop of lawyers are worried at the damage Trump did in his Fox interview with Baier, while Trump thinks that he did awesome.

That is Trump’s entire worldview in a nutshell. He refuses to listen to anyone who doesn’t tell him what he wants to hear, and substitutes his own perverted nonsense.

A reputable lawyer would have told Trump to STFU and make no comments about any of the ongoing cases. Trump likely overrode any advice approaching that because Trump thinks he knows better.

Trump’s going to find out that all of this will add to his criminal indictments and inability to mount a defense on the facts or the law.

The thing Trump is aiming for now is jury nullification and/or winning the WH in 2024, because those are the only things that would keep him out of prison.

When you have former Trump apologists and Trump’s personal lawyerAG Barr saying Trump’s fucked with the documents case, other establishment GOPers have to be worried that they too will get sucked down by Trump’s disastrous choices and worldview - but all of them are still beholden to Trump because of the Pied Piper approach to the base - telling them what they want to hear, not what they need to hear, and all of them are engaged and enraged b/c of Trump, Fox, and the right wing echo chamber that continually feeds them misinformation about Trump, his criminal conduct, and the Hunter Biden distraction.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:59:05am

re: #153 Nerdy Fish

Their “argument,” such as it is, goes as follows: The unborn should have all the rights of the living, but because they are unborn, they have no ability to defend those rights from the evil abortionists who would take them away. Therefore, they have to legislate those rights into existence by banning abortions, so that the unborn have a fair chance to have their rights taken away the correct way.

conveniently ignoring surrogates, guardians, advocates, etc

which is also how personhood would be handled

they like this limbo position because its amorphous. the goalposts keep moving automatically

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 21, 2023 • 5:59:29am

re: #155 lawhawk

Did Part 2 of the interview ever air last night? Or did Faux, belatedly realizing that they just handed Jack Smith’s prosecutors a gold mine of proof of intent, decide to pull the plug rather than letting their mango Messiah hang himself from his own rope even more?

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:00:03am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:01:32am

If you ever wondered what happened to the S.S. Minnow (of Gilligan’s Island fame)…wonder no more.

Here she is. And she looks great.

Local yacht broker finds SS Minnow!!!

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Belafon  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:04:19am

re: #157 Nerdy Fish

Did Part 2 of the interview ever air last night? Or did Faux, belatedly realizing that they just handed Jack Smith’s prosecutors a gold mine of proof of intent, decide to pull the plug rather than letting their mango Messiah hang himself from his own rope even more?

I don’t watch that stuff but I believe it did air.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:04:32am

re: #158 lawhawk

the campaign announcement was so long ago //

ffs tfg would contradict what he just said in the same interview 5 minutes before

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:06:27am

re: #157 Nerdy Fish

They did, but there’s plenty of Fox spin…

Trump answered in his own way - he lied. They still can’t use that term: lie.

It’s all euphemisms all the time, despite the nonsense Trump spews 24/7/365

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:06:31am
Marianne Williamson has lost her second campaign manager in as many months in what has proven to be a rocky 2024 presidential bid,” Politico reports.

why do they treat her like this is serious?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:06:46am

re: #149 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

Corruption and stupidity are the GOP game these days. You’re either bought and paid for by billionaires like Alito, Thomas, and other right wing extremists on SCOTUS, or you’re a dumbass who doesn’t know how to do basic math like this nitwit state rep from New Mexico.

$800 bill from Costco for 58 items? Doesn’t matter that just a handful were nonfood items? That averages to about $13 per bulk food item. It also doesn’t say anything about the other items that were purchased.

I’m in Costco almost weekly due to buying stuff for the lil’ man. It’s easy to ring up $100 just on diapers and wipes plus some fresh fruit (you can do 3 items and get to ~$100 pretty easy). There’s precisely zero context here as to what caused this high price or why anyone would suspect this to be due to “Biden” or “inflation”.

She’s all over that thread talking about “triggered” liberals who want to see the whole receipt, not just the total.

The most money we ever spent on groceries (including booze and cigarettes), enough to fill our whole car, in a regular market, was about $500.

I’m guessing that there is some item on that receipt which dramatically ran up the price, despite what she’s claiming “there’s no tires or alcohol.” That’s why she’d rather attack liberals rather than just show the whole receipt (she’s asserting inflation, she provides the evidence). The answer of course is “all conservatives lie.” All of them. About everything. Even Costco receipts.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:10:17am
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Nerdy Fish  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:12:50am

re: #162 lawhawk

They did, but there’s plenty of Fox spin…

Trump answered in his own way - he lied. They still can’t use that term: lie.

It’s all euphemisms all the time, despite the nonsense Trump spews 24/7/365

And in the process, dug his own grave even deeper. Is he just that arrogant? Does he seriously think this stuff isn’t going to be played back in front of a jury?

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No Malarkey!  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:14:50am

re: #163 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

why do they treat her like this is serious?

“Objective journalism” requires them to pretend that Williamson and Kennedy are just as serious candidates for the Democratic nomination as President Biden, much as they have to pretend Republican lies are just the other side to any issue.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:15:09am

i smell another lawsuit (guiliani this time too)

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:18:32am

re: #167 No Malarkey!

“Objective journalism” requires them to pretend that Williamson and Kennedy are just as serious candidates for the Democratic nomination as President Biden, much as they have to pretend Republican lies are just the other side to any issue.

objective journalism died when it lost perspective

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No Malarkey!  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:19:09am

re: #166 Nerdy Fish

And in the process, dug his own grave even deeper. Is he just that arrogant? Does he seriously think this stuff isn’t going to be played back in front of a jury?

After a lifetime of no consequences its probably impossible for Trump’s lawyers to get him to understand the legal consequences. Plus Trump has an ace in the hole in Judge Cannon; as long as she is on the bench when the verdict is rendered, Trump is likely to go free.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:20:10am

re: #163 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

Marianne Williamson has lost her second campaign manager in as many months in what has proven to be a rocky 2024 presidential bid,” Politico reports.

why do they treat her like this is serious?

Because the Corporate Controlled Conservative Press is all in for Trump and if they can’t have him they want il Duce.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:20:30am

re: #170 No Malarkey!

After a lifetime of no consequences its probably impossible for Trump’s lawyers to get him to understand the legal consequences. Plus Trump has an ace in the hole in Judge Cannon; as long as she is on the bench when the verdict is rendered, Trump is likely to go free.

I’m still not 100% sold on Judge Loose Cannon being completely in the tank for Trump. I am still suspicious and not at all optimistic, but I feel like the aggressive timeline she seems to be trying to set is indicative that she has no desire to let this case drag out, which would play in Trump’s favor.

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:26:01am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:26:14am

re: #165 No Malarkey!

Gov. Ron DeSantis used secretive panel to flip state Supreme Court (Washington Post via MSN, yesterday)

Leonard Leo put together a secretive panel to help Gov. Ron DeSantis flip the Florida Supreme Court to a Catholic fascist majority.

Leo also works on state level courts.

Sen. Dick Durban (D-Comity) needs to lose the “comity” act and haul Leo in to testify about his corruption of our court systems in the name of extremist libertarianism.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:27:49am

#Christian

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No Malarkey!  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:27:55am

re: #172 Nerdy Fish

I’m still not 100% sold on Judge Loose Cannon being completely in the tank for Trump. I am still suspicious and not at all optimistic, but I feel like the aggressive timeline she seems to be trying to set is indicative that she has no desire to let this case drag out, which would play in Trump’s favor.

Just so you know, the timeline she set out is simply a boilerplate federal scheduling order which is absolutely going to be revised (not because Cannon is in the tank for Trump though; there’s simply no way this case would be tried by any judge in August). The reason I’m sure Cannon is in the tank for Trump is because she granted him everything his lawyers requested when he filed his ridiculous civil suit to block the DOJ’s investigation of his theft of classified documents, despite the fact the relief he requested was unprecedented and completely anathema to the American criminal justice system.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:29:43am

re: #170 No Malarkey!

After a lifetime of no consequences its probably impossible for Trump’s lawyers to get him to understand the legal consequences. Plus Trump has an ace in the hole in Judge Cannon; as long as she is on the bench when the verdict is rendered, Trump is likely to go free.

“When you’re a star they let you do it.”

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:31:06am

re: #176 No Malarkey!

Just so you know, the timeline she set out is simply a boilerplate federal scheduling order which is absolutely going to be revised (not because Cannon is in the tank for Trump though; there’s simply no way this case would be tried by any judge in August). The reason I’m sure Cannon is in the tank for Trump is because she granted him everything his lawyers requested when he filed his ridiculous civil suit to block the DOJ’s investigation of his theft of classified documents, despite the fact the relief he requested was unprecedented and completely anathema to the American criminal justice system.

I didn’t mean the trial; I already knew, from earlier statements, that the trial would be pushed out to 2024. I assumed that meant the other orders were less flexible. That whole special master thing is the reason I am still concerned, but I’m not fully discounting the possibility that the trial will be played straight.

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:31:39am

re: #176 No Malarkey!

As others have pointed out, the preliminary hearings are more important than the trial date at this point, because federal law allows expedited hearings/appeals on anything Loose Cannon rules upon that strays from the actual law and facts.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:34:50am

Well Virginia voters throw out forced birther Democrat Morrisey and “Citrus Caligula In Heels” Amanda Chase.

Alito better realize real quick that the mob is pissed off at him and the other six assholes on the corrupted court.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:35:33am

re: #92 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I found the euphemism for prostitute to be amusing.

There were cooks, laundry workers, and, of course, more adult service providers.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:36:09am

re: #178 Nerdy Fish

I didn’t mean the trial; I already knew, from earlier statements, that the trial would be pushed out to 2024. I assumed that meant the other orders were less flexible. That whole special master thing is the reason I am still concerned, but I’m not fully discounting the possibility that the trial will be played straight.

If she is thinking strategically, she will play it straight all the way through to ensure that she and not some other judge is on the bench when the verdict is rendered, which is when Trump will need her the most.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:36:14am
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Belafon  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:37:06am

re: #165 No Malarkey!

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jeffreyw  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:41:23am

Soup & Sammy

Good morning!

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TarHellion  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:46:19am

re: #184 Belafon

Individuals at our organization are allowed to accept gifts of up to $50. I have had companies who were happy about getting a grant take me out to dinner. My involvement would be strictly writing the grant, not determining whether or not it was awarded.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:47:55am

re: #115 Nerdy Fish

You did good. I made several guesses which were all wrong.
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:49:04am

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Salon, two days ago

I grew up in the Satanic Panic — and it’s happening again

Yep. In the 60s and 70s it was rock music.

In the 80s, it was Metal and Ozzy Osbourne.

In the 90s, it was Charmed (the TV show) and Marilyn Manson.

In the 2000s, it was Harry Potter.

Now it’s LGBT people and Lizzo, among others.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:50:51am

California councilwoman accuses colleagues of giving kids ‘a sexual credit card’ by supporting Pride Month

rawstory.com

Jessica Alexander, a right-wing city councilwoman in Temecula, California, stormed off the dais at a city meeting over a proclamation of Pride Month — but not before ranting about how it would expose children to pedophiles, reported the Temecula Press Enterprise.

“Alexander, an outspoken Christian conservative, walked off the council dais during a recent meeting as the mayor began to read a proclamation honoring LGBTQ Pride Month in the city,” reported Jeff Horseman. “Before she left, Alexander decried what she described as sexually explicit LGBTQ flags, including one she said promotes pedophilia. The proclamation, declared by the city’s Race, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion Commission and presented to high school clubs supporting LGBTQ rights, is inappropriately aimed at children, said Alexander, who opposes the seven-member commission and criticized the Temecula City Council’s Pride Month proclamation in 2022.”

“Where is your moral and ethical line for each one of you as a city council member?” she said. “If you don’t oppose this proclamation being given to minors, we are celebrating and encouraging sexual activity and giving them (a) sexual credit card with no limit. You are encouraging them to expose them to all sexual possibilities and exposing them to predators.”

She complained that there are now around 50 different Pride flags for subgroups in the community, and particularly claimed that the Progress Pride Flag promotes pedophilia — which has been debunked repeatedly.

Typical Xtian asshole

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No Malarkey!  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:55:32am

re: #189 Joe Bacon ✅

California councilwoman accuses colleagues of giving kids ‘a sexual credit card’ by supporting Pride Month

rawstory.com

Jessica Alexander, a right-wing city councilwoman in Temecula, California, stormed off the dais at a city meeting over a proclamation of Pride Month — but not before ranting about how it would expose children to pedophiles, reported the Temecula Press Enterprise.

“Alexander, an outspoken Christian conservative, walked off the council dais during a recent meeting as the mayor began to read a proclamation honoring LGBTQ Pride Month in the city,” reported Jeff Horseman. “Before she left, Alexander decried what she described as sexually explicit LGBTQ flags, including one she said promotes pedophilia. The proclamation, declared by the city’s Race, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion Commission and presented to high school clubs supporting LGBTQ rights, is inappropriately aimed at children, said Alexander, who opposes the seven-member commission and criticized the Temecula City Council’s Pride Month proclamation in 2022.”

“Where is your moral and ethical line for each one of you as a city council member?” she said. “If you don’t oppose this proclamation being given to minors, we are celebrating and encouraging sexual activity and giving them (a) sexual credit card with no limit. You are encouraging them to expose them to all sexual possibilities and exposing them to predators.”

She complained that there are now around 50 different Pride flags for subgroups in the community, and particularly claimed that the Progress Pride Flag promotes pedophilia — which has been debunked repeatedly.

Typical Xtian asshole

Based on the false belief that children are “groomed” to become homosexual because homosexuals can’t reproduce naturally (which is also false). In reality, a certain percentage of children don’t fit into the boxes traditionalists want to limit them to, and those children need to know that they are not alone and there is nothing wrong with them.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 6:56:18am

#Libertarian

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:00:36am

re: #184 Belafon

Yeah, but government contractors don’t get all but guaranteed lifetime appointments to their positions.

Rules have always been mostly just for the little people.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:03:22am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:05:15am
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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:09:45am

re: #115 Nerdy Fish

There’s several guesses that could have been made here. I made one of them.

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I made many of them.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:13:10am

Update on the fake priest hired by a restaurant to extract confessions about work crime so he could fire or intimidate them before testifying to California.

A restaurant must pay workers $140,000 after allegedly hiring a fake priest to extract confessions of workers’ ‘sins’ (CNN, June 20, 2023)

A restaurant in California has been ordered to pay $140,000 in back wages and damages to employees after it hired a priest to extract workers’ confessions, in what federal investigators are calling “the most shameless” acts of corruption an employer has taken against its staff.

The US Department of Labor said an employee testified that owner Che Garibaldi, who operates two locations of Taqueria Garibaldi in northern California, hired a fake priest to hear confessions during work hours and “get the sins out,” including asking them if they had been late for work, stolen money from the restaurant or had “bad intentions” toward their employer.

“Under oath, an employee of Taqueria Garibaldi explained how the restaurant offered a supposed priest to hear their workplace ‘sins’ while other employees reported that a manager falsely claimed that immigration issues would be raised by the department’s investigation,” said Regional Solicitor of Labor Marc Pilotin in the release.

The Catholic Diocese of Sacramento confirmed that they found “no evidence of any connection” between the fake priest and their diocese. “While we don’t know who the person in question was, we are completely confident he was not a priest of the Diocese of Sacramento,” a diocese spokesman told the Catholic News Agency last week.

Garibaldi and three other restaurant owners and operators were ordered to pay $140,000 in back wages and damages to 35 employees. The restaurant will also have to pay $5,000 in civil penalties.

Taqueria Garibaldi did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Investigators also found that the restaurant denied employees overtime pay, managers were paid bonuses from the employee tip pool and some employees faced “adverse immigration consequences” for cooperating with investigators.

“This employer’s despicable attempts to retaliate against employees were intended to silence workers, obstruct an investigation and prevent the recovery of unpaid wages,” Pilotin said.

(more)

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:13:27am
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Nerdy Fish  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:14:53am
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sagehen  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:15:17am

re: #180 Joe Bacon ✅

Well Virginia voters throw out forced birther Democrat Morrisey and “Citrus Caligula In Heels” Amanda Chase.

Alito better realize real quick that the mob is pissed off at him and the other six assholes on the corrupted court.

PELICAN BRIEF!!

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steve_davis  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:15:17am

re: #164 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

She’s all over that thread talking about “triggered” liberals who want to see the whole receipt, not just the total.

The most money we ever spent on groceries (including booze and cigarettes), enough to fill our whole car, in a regular market, was about $500.

I’m guessing that there is some item on that receipt which dramatically ran up the price, despite what she’s claiming “there’s no tires or alcohol.” That’s why she’d rather attack liberals rather than just show the whole receipt (she’s asserting inflation, she provides the evidence). The answer of course is “all conservatives lie.” All of them. About everything. Even Costco receipts.

the only way I would spend 800 dollars on groceries would be if it were triple-point Tuesday at Ingles, and that would presumably get me a free tank of gas.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:15:39am

(CNN) Crews searching for the Titan submersible heard banging sounds every 30 minutes Tuesday, according to an internal government memo update on the search.

Four hours later, after additional sonar devices were deployed, banging was still heard, the memo said. It was unclear when the banging was heard Tuesday or for how long, based on the memo.

A subsequent update sent Tuesday night suggested more sounds were heard, though it was not described as “banging.”

Maybe it didn’t implode? Then again, the sounds could be from any number of things.

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steve_davis  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:16:51am

re: #104 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I carry one because it is eminently useful in many situations, sure glad I never had to use it in the one you described.

I once had to use the tweezers to extract a credit card from the cash slot in a Lowe’s because I panicked during the self check-out. Those tweezers may have slightly redeemed me in the eyes of the dozen or so people trying to figure out how anyone was stupid enough to try to insert a credit card in the cash dispenser.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:17:29am

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This

Fear is something I’ve since learned to interrogate in myself.

Is why editors are sooooo important. If this passed an editor, they need to be fired.
Integrate, the word you’re looking for is integrate.

ETA — and she die it one n more time.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:18:45am

re: #172 Nerdy Fish

I’m still not 100% sold on Judge Loose Cannon being completely in the tank for Trump. I am still suspicious and not at all optimistic, but I feel like the aggressive timeline she seems to be trying to set is indicative that she has no desire to let this case drag out, which would play in Trump’s favor.

the question will be whether she’s a trump zombie or whether she has any regard for her own reputation in the legal and judicial communities

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steve_davis  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:21:29am

re: #103 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Good morning. I hope you’re well. I wanted to see if Jesse has returned. And if not to see if you reached out to Animal Control or put up notices.

I haven’t been able to stop thinking about her.

reached out to animal control. they don’t take cats, so they don’t have her. can’t put up notices because Jesse is a ghost cat and as much as I love her, I don’t want the 500 dollar fine when management figures out she actually lives here. So it’s word of mouth, but no luck so far.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:21:48am

The Catholic Conference of Bishops is moving to implement a ban on all gender-affirming care in any Catholic or Catholic-affiliated hospital, to bring them in line with Church law. This would apply to any private, corporate, or charitable hospital which get data or assistance from the Catholic Church or its organisations.

Christianity will be forced on you whether you want it or not. If you receive gender-affirming care from a non-Catholic hospital, it is imperative you contact your hospital or clinic to determine if they affiliate with the Roman Catholic Church, so you can make arrangements with another physician or provider before the banhammer comes down in the name of Christian Love (tm).

The Catholic Church gets $48billion in Medicaid and Medicare payments, meaning the federal government is funding Christian bigotry. One-in-seven beds in hospitals are affiliated with the Catholic Church.

U.S. Catholic bishops to create first guidelines for transgender health care (Washington Post, June 16, 2023)

Transgender care is considered “injurious to the person” according to the Vatican, so the care is not allowed. Circumcision is not considered “injurious to the person” because the Catholic Church is full of hypocrites.

“The doctrine group creating the draft a few months ago said trans treatments ‘are not morally justified’” (more at the link)

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William Lewis  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:22:05am

So sitting here listening to a random mix of punk/new wave videos (mostly) on YouTube with my headphones on. Bit of Guinness and a bit of rum :)

But YouTube? To go from Ida Maria to Tiffany? That’s just cruel! LOL!

Ah, now, that’s better. NENA | 99 Luftballons [1983] auf deutsch too!

It was too funny to hear that on the radio when I got back stateside in the mid 80’s and I’d start singing the German lyrics and people would look at me like I’d grown a second head.

NENA | 99 Luftballons [1983] [Offizielles HD Musikvideo]

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:22:25am

re: #201 Eclectic Cyborg

(CNN) Crews searching for the Titan submersible heard banging sounds every 30 minutes Tuesday, according to an internal government memo update on the search.

Four hours later, after additional sonar devices were deployed, banging was still heard, the memo said. It was unclear when the banging was heard Tuesday or for how long, based on the memo.

A subsequent update sent Tuesday night suggested more sounds were heard, though it was not described as “banging.”

Maybe it didn’t implode? Then again, the sounds could be from any number of things.

Wouldn’t it be a good idea to bang on the hull in a rhythmic pattern in order to distinguish it amongst other noises? May be, oh, I don’t know, S-O-S?

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sagehen  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:22:38am

re: #200 steve_davis

the only way I would spend 800 dollars on groceries would be if it were triple-point Tuesday at Ingles, and that would presumably get me a free tank of gas.

Caviar. Truffles. Godiva.

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:24:10am

re: #209 sagehen

Caviar. Truffles. Godiva.

Kirkland caviar?

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No Malarkey!  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:25:46am

re: #201 Eclectic Cyborg

(CNN) Crews searching for the Titan submersible heard banging sounds every 30 minutes Tuesday, according to an internal government memo update on the search.

Four hours later, after additional sonar devices were deployed, banging was still heard, the memo said. It was unclear when the banging was heard Tuesday or for how long, based on the memo.

A subsequent update sent Tuesday night suggested more sounds were heard, though it was not described as “banging.”

Maybe it didn’t implode? Then again, the sounds could be from any number of things.

In the unlikely event that the passengers are rescued alive, it will make a great movie.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:26:45am

re: #191 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

#Libertarian

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No Malarkey!  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:27:22am

re: #204 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

the question will be whether she’s a trump zombie or whether she has any regard for her own reputation in the legal and judicial communities

She may well value her reputation in the MAGA community more.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:28:16am

re: #201 Eclectic Cyborg

(CNN) Crews searching for the Titan submersible heard banging sounds every 30 minutes Tuesday, according to an internal government memo update on the search.

Four hours later, after additional sonar devices were deployed, banging was still heard, the memo said. It was unclear when the banging was heard Tuesday or for how long, based on the memo.

A subsequent update sent Tuesday night suggested more sounds were heard, though it was not described as “banging.”

Maybe it didn’t implode? Then again, the sounds could be from any number of things.

A Coast Guard spokesman noted “There’s a lot of metal down there” at the Titanic wreck site.

Yeah. Like…the Titanic and the massive debris field caused by the ship breaking up on the surface. That metal banging sound could be anything, unfortunately.

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steve_davis  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:29:24am

re: #208 sizzzzlerz

Wouldn’t it be a good idea to bang on the hull in a rhythmic pattern in order to distinguish it amongst other noises? May be, oh, I don’t know, S-O-S?

banging was from a squid outside with a pair of industrial hedge clippers: “Remember how I said it was a real nice vessel you had here, and it would be a shame if something bad were to happen to it?”

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No Malarkey!  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:29:52am

re: #212 DodgerFan1988

I don’t even know what that is supposed to mean.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:30:45am

re: #216 No Malarkey!

I don’t even know what that is supposed to mean.

Slur against Jews.

(Think cremation chambers during the Holocaust)

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:31:03am

re: #81 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

well is your refrigerator running?

Call bowling alley (and hopefully a guy answers)

Me: Do you have 10 pound balls?
Guy: Yes
Me: God, how do you walk?

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:31:15am

re: #216 No Malarkey!

I don’t even know what that is supposed to mean.

She’s Jewish according to her Bio.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:31:34am

re: #217 Eclectic Cyborg

Slur against Jews.

(Think cremation chambers during the Holocaust)

Pretty vile.

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darthstar  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:32:35am

Was thinking about going to the office today but realized I need to be naked.

Mastodon

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:33:25am

Read an article about the company who built the submarine firing a whistleblower who surfaced concerns about the sub’s safety, in particular, the strength of it’s carbon fiber hull. Apparently, carbon fiber can develop micro cracks that can grow with repeated dives and the company never performed any destructive testing. The whistleblower also stated that the glass viewing bubble on the craft was rated to 1300 meters. They refused to pay the bubble manufactured to upgrade it so it would be rated to 4000 meters, nearer the depth of the titanic.

Lawsuits a’coming!

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:35:43am

re: #88 TarHellion

Took a 50/50 guess and missed, so took the par

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Pulled a 3/6 today

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wrenchwench  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:36:27am

The middle finger grows.

Many 4s. Here’s a new one.

Wordle 732 4/6*

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wrenchwench  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:37:04am

re: #223 Eventual Carrion

Pulled a 3/6 today

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With a whiff! Good job.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:37:20am

re: #222 sizzzzlerz

Yep….

At the meeting Lochridge discovered why he had been denied access to the viewport information from the Engineering department—the viewport at the forward of the submersible was only built to a certified pressure of 1,300 meters, although OceanGate intended to take passengers down to depths of 4,000 meters. Lochridge learned that the viewport manufacturer would only certify to a depth of 1,300 meters due to experimental design of the viewport supplied by OceanGate, which was out of the Pressure Vessels for Human Occupancy (“PVHO”) standards. OceanGate refused to pay for the manufacturer to build a viewport that would meet the required depth of 4,000 meters.

newrepublic.com

Taking an uncertified, homemade hoopty to 12,500 feet. What could possibly go wrong?

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darthstar  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:37:43am
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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:43:16am

“cis” and “cisgender” are slurs in Nazi world? FFS. I’ve heard it all. Elmo is a miserable and sad fat fuck.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:44:54am

re: #93 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

Shorter: Nope. That’s our book.

Could someone sue claiming unfair application of the law and, perhaps, having the law thrown out entirely?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:45:17am

re: #203 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

This

Is why editors are sooooo important. If this passed an editor, they need to be fired.
Integrate, the word you’re looking for is integrate.

ETA — and she die it one n more time.

No she meant interrogate. She refers to after she started questioning what she was taught. She means interrogate, as in “question.”

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steve_davis  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:45:57am

the illiterati of journalism: “the hospital ship has a hyperbaric chamber to help with any survivor decompression sickness.” They’re in a metal box. They aren’t personally experiencing anything beyond 1 atmosphere of pressure, unless the boat imploded, in which case the last thing going through their brains was likely their feet.

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JC1  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:46:14am

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:46:15am

re: #209 sagehen

Caviar. Truffles. Godiva.

Heck, a decent sized package of good steaks for a cook-out would eat up a lot of that bill quickly. As a single item.

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William Lewis  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:47:30am

re: #231 steve_davis

the illiterati of journalism: “the hospital ship has a hyperbaric chamber to help with any survivor decompression sickness.” They’re in a metal box. They aren’t personally experiencing anything beyond 1 atmosphere of pressure, unless the ship imploded, in which case the last thing going through their brains was likely their feet.

They may be just parroting what they’re told in which case it’s propaganda to make the survivors feel good.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:47:30am

re: #215 steve_davis

banging was from a squid outside with a pair of industrial hedge clippers: “Remember how I said it was a real nice vessel you had here, and it would be a shame if something bad were to happen to it?”

Or an Orca tapping morse code for “We have been trying to contact you about your extended submersible warranty.”

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steve_davis  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:47:52am

re: #233 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Heck, a decent sized package of good steaks for a cook-out would eat up a lot of that bill quickly. As a single item.

you aren’t kidding. I wander into Sam’s twice a year and I’m like “what is the freakin’ attaction here? I can buy 12 ribeyes for 240 bucks. Unless I’m a survivalist looking to stock my walk-in cooler, how does a single person find anything to eat in this joint?”

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:48:28am

re: #183 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Wow. His group was harassing a drag event on Sunday in Concord. My wife and I ate at a restaurant just across the street from there on Saturday. Also, the NH guy who was just arrested for participating in J6 is also a member of the white terrorist org. NSC-131.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:49:12am

Tesla stockholders, your CEO using your money wisely meeting yet another religious fascist leader.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:49:27am

re: #226 Dr Lizardo

Yep….

newrepublic.com

Taking an uncertified, homemade hoopty to 12,500 feet. What could possibly go wrong?

But fuck all those pesky rules and regulations, right?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:51:01am

re: #236 steve_davis

you aren’t kidding. I wander into Sam’s twice a year and I’m like “what is the freakin’ attaction here? I can buy 12 ribeyes for 240 bucks. Unless I’m a survivalist looking to stock my walk-in cooler, how does a single person find anything to eat in this joint?”

Steaks are much cheaper here. Perhaps because we have all the cattle.

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:51:31am

re: #236 steve_davis

you aren’t kidding. I wander into Sam’s twice a year and I’m like “what is the freakin’ attaction here? I can buy 12 ribeyes for 240 bucks. Unless I’m a survivalist looking to stock my walk-in cooler, how does a single person find anything to eat in this joint?”

Heck, Costco is a lot of food even for 2 adults.

It starts to make more sense when you’ve got kids or 2+ adults or a furry baby. There’s only so much toilet paper, paper towels, and cleaning supplies you can buy and store in bulk.

I’ll get chicken breasts in bulk, and then portion them out so I can freeze them and thaw as I need them over a few weeks.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:52:03am

re: #234 William Lewis

They may be just parroting what they’re told in which case it’s propaganda to make the survivors feel good.

It’s like every small plane crash “he didn’t file a flight plan”

Without explaining whether it was required in that situation or not

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:52:12am

Moral of the story: Just because you’re a billionaire, perhaps you shouldn’t be rocketing into a space or exploring the extreme depths of the oceans. Leave it to, you know….the experts.

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William Lewis  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:52:31am

Oh man. Beautiful piece on NPR about Jason Isbell.

Luck favors the prepared, as they say, and young Jason Isbell was ready. He had honed his skills as a songwriter and guitar player since he started playing the mandolin back when his hands were too small to wrap around a guitar neck. He would sit alone in his bedroom for days on end, isolated and insulated from his parents’ arguing, tearing through the classics. Playing local bars before he was even a teenager, and the Grand Ole Opry by 16, he went off to college but, famously, never completed his degree for want of a single required health studies class. By his early 20s, he returned to his home in the Shoals of Alabama, an obscure corner of the country that produced some of the greatest R&B in the universe, where he found work writing for FAME Studios.

Then, at the age of 22, his moment arrived. A member of the Drive-By Truckers, a band that had returned to its home in the Shoals to play a breakthrough house concert for Spin magazine, failed to show up for the gig. As a result, Isbell got a rapid field promotion onto the stage. He joined the band for the show and then departed on tour with the band for the next six years. Isbell may have been a young adult, but he looked more like a doughy high school sophomore, especially among the more grizzled members of a hard touring band.

The group he joined in 2001, the raucous, punk infused, careening-toward-the-ditch band, the Truckers, had just released its epic masterpiece, Southern Rock Opera, a whirlwind of Southern rock, punk and gothic hell — literally. In one song, the devil sports a George Wallace sticker on the bumper of his Cadillac. Spin, reviewing Isbell’s first show with the Truckers, called them “alt country’s rockingest neo-rednecks” who delivered “poetry among the wreckage.”

The rebuilt heart of Jason Isbell

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:52:41am

re: #235 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Or an Orca tapping morse code for “We have been trying to contact you about your extended submersible warranty.”

Came to lgf for this.
Remain satisfied

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:53:03am

re: #243 Dr. Matt

Moral of the story: Just because you’re a billionaire, perhaps you shouldn’t be rocketing into a space or exploring the extreme depths of the oceans. Leave it to, you know….the experts.

What happens when you think you’re the subject matter expert and know better than you know, the actual experts.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:55:16am

re: #246 lawhawk

What happens when you think you’re the subject matter expert and know better than you know, the actual experts.

That describes the modern day GQP voter in a nutshell.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:55:17am

re: #246 lawhawk

What happens when you think you’re the subject matter expert and know better than you know, the actual experts.

Boom, splat

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Jay C  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:56:07am

re: #149 lawhawk

re: #164 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Even leaving aside the issue that Ms. Lord is a Republican politician (and therefore, like any politician, her comments need to be carefully interpreted) - that Costco receipt thing reeks of BS: First, the fact that she prefaces it with “Thanks, Joe Biden!” is one giveaway: Second, that she only (so far) displays the total - with no breakdown is another; and third, that Rep. Lord’s (Twitter) responses to questions about it are mainly dismissive/insulting sneers at “progressives” makes this crap pretty questionable.

That said, $800 for grocery shopping (at Costco!) does seem a bit steep: it would be useful to know exactly what, and how much, Ms. Lord bought: and what the local Costco’s prices/margins/supply issues, etc. have been over recent months/years. But then, that might require actually thinking about issues; tweeting stupid cheapshots is obviously a lot easier.

BTW, my guess is that part of those high price levels driving up the bill may be that it is in NM: transportation costs tend, IIRC, to make stuff more expensive there to begin with. Also: Lord’s district looks to be the fringes of the ABQ area: there may be an issue of little competition. Even so, what President Biden has to do with it (or what he can do about it) is still irrelevant….

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:56:11am

re: #229 Hecuba’s daughter

Could someone sue claiming unfair application of the law and, perhaps, having the law thrown out entirely?

I imagine FFRF is already looking into it, because it was a local Christian member of FFRF who filed the original complaint against the school board.

The problem with all these performative laws from conservatives is they are not performative when they pass. They have real effect. On top of that, it costs real money to try to overturn them, so a flurry of Christian laws like overturning Roe or passing individual local book bans is intended to run civil libertarians out of money. Christian churches can donate any amount of money they wish to Christian non-profit law firms, but secular organisations don’t have that option.

They intend to force a Christian state.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:57:19am

re: #212 DodgerFan1988

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:57:46am

California from the air:

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:57:58am

Has TFG called Brett a “hack” and “loser” yet? Wait for it…..

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:58:23am

re: #250 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They intend to force a Christian state.

And they are slowly succeeding, at least by some measures.

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William Lewis  Jun 21, 2023 • 7:58:56am

Current mood but but the lyrics might be a bit NSFW so out of an abundance of caution:

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wrenchwench  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:00:01am

re: #251 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

The cargo-cultists are there to poke you and make you respond. Time to stop. Don’t give them the satisfaction.

Just a suggestion.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:00:10am

re: #252 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

California from the air:

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Can you see Hawkeye or Maxwell Q. Klinger down there?

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Nojay UK  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:02:45am

re: #252 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Coming up to fire season, isn’t it?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:03:03am

re: #249 Jay C

That said, $800 for grocery shopping (at Costco!) does seem a bit steep: it would be useful to know exactly what, and how much, Ms. Lord bought: and what the local Costco’s prices/margins/supply issues, etc. have been over recent months/years/ But then, that might require actually thinking about issues; tweeting stupid cheapshots is obviously a lot easier.

let’s see…$800 divided by $4.99 for Costco Rotisserie chickens…

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:07:49am

re: #155 lawhawk.

The thing Trump is aiming for now is jury nullification and/or winning the WH in 2024, because those are the only things that would keep him out of prison.

I don’t think he’ll ever see prison. To complicated for the SS. I’m hoping for some form of house arrest with an ankle braclet.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:09:21am

re: #227 darthstar

So glad I jumped ship as soon as it was announced that Musk had bought Twitter. He is nothing but a bigot and I will not support anything he runs.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:09:31am

If you’re on Twitter, pay attention to the promised change to let blue checks make ad revenue off view and reactions to their posts.

Because even if it’s dumb overall business, it means that Twitter will more explicitly become a way to put money into the pockets of provocateurs that want to waste your time.

The trick of social media, and particularly of Twitter, is to present self-expression as inherently a form of praxis, that posting is doing …and while this is the case for activists and citizen journalists, for most people Twitter is just a Skinner Box in which you get to be mean to people that you enjoy being mean to.

That was always corrosive and bad, but now that Twitter’s explicitly a far right engine of disinformation, it’s now actually worse. Discharging frustration by being a reply guy is not especially productive to start with, but now it’s being weaponized in ways that lean into reactionary needs, because all their shit runs on contempt and disgust in a way that leftism doesn’t.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:12:53am
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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:14:32am

Will Elmo ban biochemistry discussions?


cis-but-2-ene

trans-but-2-ene
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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:17:39am

re: #264 Dr. Matt

Ooooh… talk dirty to me!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:22:50am

Trending on Twitter #CisIsNotASlur

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:23:48am

re: #266 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Trending on Twitter #CisIsNotASlur

That’s obviously not going to deter Elno. He’s going to start issuing shadowbans for anyone who uses “cis” or “cisgender” soon.

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:27:09am
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William Lewis  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:30:36am

Hurt - Nine Inch Nails (Bardcore | Medieval Style Cover)

No, not as good as Johnny Cash’s version but still interesting.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:35:47am

From Reddit’s r/NotHowGirlsWork, a few minutes ago. This would very much surprise my wife.

Who tf still uses the phrase “sweet tits”?

This is about a man telling a woman that they are incapable of being software engineers.

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:37:22am

re: #154 Belafon

They’re cowards and won’t let people reply. I thought Republicans liked debate.

They like “debates” in which they get to spew all their talking points and you get to shut up.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:37:54am

re: #270 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

From Reddit’s r/NotHowGirlsWork, a few minutes ago. This would very much surprise my wife.

Who tf still uses the phrase “sweet tits”?

This is about a man telling a woman that they are incapable of being software engineers.

I believe the correct phrase is sugar-tits.
/Gibson.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:39:50am

re: #155 lawhawk

Trump is in real trouble when his current crop of lawyers are worried at the damage Trump did in his Fox interview with Baier, while Trump thinks that he did awesome.

That is Trump’s entire worldview in a nutshell. He refuses to listen to anyone who doesn’t tell him what he wants to hear, and substitutes his own perverted nonsense.

And as you well know, any attorney approached by Trump who briefly wondered “should I take this case” - no matter how brief the consideration - is going “Trump’s attorneys are fucked.”

Lonesome Rhodes time.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:45:14am
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Thanos  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:45:33am

I really do love my Simple Human trash can, but yesterday I embarrassed myself at the doctor’s office by talking to their trash can…

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:46:38am

re: #252 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

California from the air:

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Taking over the southbay hills, possibly over Mission peak or maybe Joseph Grant Ranch park, with Mt. Diablo in the medium distance in the east bay. The hills are in their summer clothes.

Were you hang gliding off MIssion peak, perhaps?

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Thanos  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:47:26am

re: #274 DodgerFan1988

If “Conservative” is now a pejorative, we know who trashed that label for all time.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:48:22am

Baltimore Banner, June 20, 2023

#Catholic

Ex-Mount Saint Joseph High School wrestling coach to stand trial in sex abuse case

A former head wrestling coach of Mount Saint Joseph High School who was the only person indicted in the Maryland attorney general’s investigation into child sexual abuse and cover-ups within the Archdiocese of Baltimore is set to stand trial this week on charges that he groomed and assaulted a teen.

Neil Adleberg, 75, of Reisterstown, who prosecutors said served as the head wrestling coach in the 1970s and returned as an assistant wrestling coach for the 2014-15 season, is charged with six counts, including sexual abuse of a minor.

Adleberg appeared Tuesday in Baltimore County Circuit Court and opted for a bench trial. That means Circuit Judge Dennis M. Robinson Jr. will determine whether he is guilty of the charges in the case.

(more)

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No Malarkey!  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:48:37am

This is in extremely bad taste, and if I was a good person I wouldn’t be amused.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:49:30am

re: #274 DodgerFan1988

but totally free speech zone, right?

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calochortus  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:50:33am

re: #249 Jay C

Even leaving aside the issue that Ms. Lord is a Republican politician (and therefore, like any politician, her comments need to be carefully interpreted) - that Costco receipt thing reeks of BS: First, the fact that she prefaces it with “Thanks, Joe Biden!” is one giveaway: Second, that she only (so far) displays the total - with no breakdown is another; and third, that Rep. Lord’s (Twitter) responses to questions about it are mainly dismissive/insulting sneers at “progressives” makes this crap pretty questionable.

That said, $800 for grocery shopping (at Costco!) does seem a bit steep: it would be useful to know exactly what, and how much, Ms. Lord bought: and what the local Costco’s prices/margins/supply issues, etc. have been over recent months/years. But then, that might require actually thinking about issues; tweeting stupid cheapshots is obviously a lot easier.

BTW, my guess is that part of those high price levels driving up the bill may be that it is in NM: transportation costs tend, IIRC, to make stuff more expensive there to begin with. Also: Lord’s district looks to be the fringes of the ABQ area: there may be an issue of little competition. Even so, what President Biden has to do with it (or what he can do about it) is still irrelevant….

She bought 58 items, so kind of a lot. Let’s bring that down to reasonable levels of buying. $800 for 58 items is $100 for a bit over 7 items. I’ve certainly done that at Costco. A couple meat or seafood items, a decent cheese, a couple boxes of cereal, etc. And she mentions some non-food items, which for all we know are patio furniture or small appliances. Has there been inflation? Why yes there has, but getting a large bill for a lot of items (when was the last time you bought 58 things anywhere) is not good proof of anything.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:50:51am

re: #280 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

but totally free speech zone, right?

If you’re a fascist sure, but getting dumped broke Elon’s brain, so the free speech does not apply to decent people.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:52:21am

re: #281 calochortus

She bought 58 items, so kind of a lot. Let’s bring that down to reasonable levels of buying. $800 for 58 items is $100 for a bit over 7 items. I’ve certainly done that at Costco. A couple meat or seafood items, a decent cheese, a couple boxes of cereal, etc. And she mentions some non-food items, which for all we know are patio furniture or small appliances. Has there been inflation? Why yes there has, but getting a large bill for a lot of items (when was the last time you bought 58 things anywhere) is not good proof of anything.

maybe this is for a party and not just ‘grocery shopping for the week’ as she’s implying

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:52:33am

What Twitter has become thanks to Sleazy E

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:52:45am

re: #181 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

I found the euphemism for prostitute to be amusing.

There were not many life choices for an unmarried woman on the frontier.

Unless you were Calamity Jane, it was usually either marriage or prostitution.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:53:37am

re: #222 sizzzzlerz

Read an article about the company who built the submarine firing a whistleblower who surfaced concerns about the sub’s safety, in particular, the strength of it’s carbon fiber hull. Apparently, carbon fiber can develop micro cracks that can grow with repeated dives and the company never performed any destructive testing. The whistleblower also stated that the glass viewing bubble on the craft was rated to 1300 meters. They refused to pay the bubble manufactured to upgrade it so it would be rated to 4000 meters, nearer the depth of the titanic.

Lawsuits a’coming!

Will they have to perform a seance for the defendants can appear in court?

Can’t use a necromancer. No way to get at the bodies.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:53:42am

Someone at my company has decided to get rid of Jira. Does anyone here know of any decent alternative for managing task and bug tickets?

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:54:22am

re: #287 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Someone at my company has decided to get rid of Jira. Does anyone here know of any decent alternative for managing task and bug tickets?

We use Microsoft’s Azure DevOps for our internal stuff. Customers log tickets through a product called Ivanti, but we all hate it, so I don’t know if I can recommend it.

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:54:48am

re: #286 Romantic Heretic

Will they have to perform a seance for the defendants can appear in court?

Can’t use a necromancer. No way to get at the bodies.

Families can sue, can’t they?

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sagehen  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:55:26am

re: #279 No Malarkey!

This is in extremely bad taste, and if I was a good person I wouldn’t be amused.

nah… bad taste is when I point out that if one of them killed the rest, the oxygen would last a whole lot longer…

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:55:47am

re: #284 Joe Bacon ✅

What Twitter has become thanks to Sleazy E

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Nah. That’s still got a door on it

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Thanos  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:57:38am

What’s on sale at Costco - as a Congress critter who no doubt entertains and hosts I could see her buying some of those 8-packs.

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:58:24am

re: #284 Joe Bacon ✅

What Twitter has become thanks to Sleazy E

[picture of rustic outhouse]

Onle Skum removed the door.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 8:58:58am

The path predicted by the National Hurricane Center for Tropical Storm Bret is pushed south again. Disturbance One, trucking along behind, is now predicted to become a tropical cyclone with an 80% certainty. It will become a threat to the Lesser Antilles next week.

Atlantic 7-Day Graphical Tropical Outlook

Bret in the meantime looks like its aiming at Nicaragua, though it’s too early to tell.

SUMMARY OF 1100 AM AST…1500 UTC…INFORMATION
———————————————————————-
LOCATION…13.0N 52.5W
ABOUT 470 MI…760 KM E OF BARBADOS
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…60 MPH…95 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…W OR 280 DEGREES AT 14 MPH…22 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…1001 MB…29.56 INCHES

WATCHES AND WARNINGS
——————————
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

The government of St. Lucia has issued a Tropical Storm Warning for
St. Lucia.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:

A Tropical Storm Warning in in effect for…
* St. Lucia

A Tropical Storm Watch is in effect for…
* Barbados
* Dominica
* Martinique

Key Messages for Tropical Storm Bret

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:00:18am

re: #284 Joe Bacon ✅

What Twitter has become thanks to Sleazy E

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Close, but what Twitter has become is hidden in the pit below that wreck of an outhouse.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:03:12am

re: #284 Joe Bacon ✅

What Twitter has become thanks to Sleazy E

He turned it into a Nebraska Panhandle rest stop?

Lisco, Nebraska Rest Area, near the State Aid Bridge
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:05:29am

re: #292 Thanos

What’s on sale at Costco - as a Congress critter who no doubt entertains and hosts I could see her buying some of those 8-packs.

She could clear this all up by posting the item list rather than ranting “I didn’t buy tires or alcohol” or calling out progressives.

The axiom is a conservative is lying until they demonstrate otherwise, since the only precept of conservatism is the acquisition of power.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:08:30am
“Underwater noises” detected in effort to find the submersible lost near the wreck of the Titanic raised hopes that the crew might still be alive.

But one expert said tracing the noises back to the sub is a “fool’s errand.”

“Trying to differentiate it from tapping noises as it were, I’m afraid is a fool’s errand,” Former Rear Admiral Chris Parry, a retired officer in Britain’s Royal Navy, told Talk TV.

“I’m afraid people are grasping at straws here and I’m really concerned that we don’t divert attention away from trying to find the submersible where it really is,” Parry said in his interview.

A rescue operation is underway to recover the Titan, a submersible carrying five people that lost communication with its mother ship on Sunday as it set off for the wreckage of the Titanic 12,500 feet underwater.

businessinsider.in

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Jay C  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:08:49am

re: #281 calochortus

She bought 58 items, so kind of a lot. Let’s bring that down to reasonable levels of buying. $800 for 58 items is $100 for a bit over 7 items. I’ve certainly done that at Costco. A couple meat or seafood items, a decent cheese, a couple boxes of cereal, etc. And she mentions some non-food items, which for all we know are patio furniture or small appliances. Has there been inflation? Why yes there has, but getting a large bill for a lot of items (when was the last time you bought 58 things anywhere) is not good proof of anything.

You’re quite right, of course: but the thing (pretty much a basic principle of any kind of shopping) is that while any particular item, or group of items might not seem unduly expensive, there’s always going to be some level of “sticker shock” when you see the total.
Of course, if one is a Republican official, the immediate reaction to try to blame Joe Biden/Democrats/progressives/boogeyman-of-the-week for whatever social/economic issue you’re griping about seems to be irresistible. Bullshit, usually, but still the reflexive reaction.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:10:58am

have a look at four tweets

Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) absolutely skewered special counsel John Durham in a House Judiciary Committee heaaring today.

Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-NY) did too. And Rep. Ted Lieu (D-CA) too.

Fox News legal analyst Jonathan Turley said that Durham “looks about as comfortable as a Benedictine monk in a strip club. He has this look a disbelief on his face.”

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:12:29am

Elmo is really bringing in the best adverts:

This is a promoted tweet on his TL.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:14:26am

Every day, multiple times a day

#ChristianNotOtherwiseSpecified

Volunteer for “The Call,” a Christian organisation which works with Arkansas churches to rapidly place children in Christian foster care settings.

Foster care volunteer arrested on rape, child porn charges (KAIT-TV, Jonesboro, Ark.)

A man who volunteered at a local foster care organization now faces rape and child pornography charges.

A judge found probable cause earlier this month to arrest 32-year-old Ryan Jacob Armstrong of Concord on the following charges:

Rape
Second-degree sexual assault
Distributing, possessing, or viewing of matter depicting sexually explicit conduct involving a child

(more)

If you’re in Arkansas and you like to learn how to weaponise the foster care system to proselytise to children, here’s his organisation.

thecallinarkansas.org

The CALL is a non-profit organization that mobilizes local churches to serve local children and youth placed in foster care. We provide a way for Christians to invite the mission field into their homes, to serve those most vulnerable in their communities. The CALL partners with the Division of Children and Family Services to recruit, train and support foster and adoptive families for children and teens in foster care. Our hope is to see a day where there are no children in Arkansas waiting for families. Because what children and youth in foster care need most is a family to care for them as they heal from abuse or neglect.

(more)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:15:31am

re: #301 Dr. Matt

Elmo is really bringing in the best adverts:

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This is a promoted tweet on his TL.

Seems perfect for “patriotic” assholes, no?

/

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:17:37am

re: #300 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

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Jay C  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:18:52am

re: #301 Dr. Matt

Elmo is really bringing in the best adverts:

This is a promoted tweet on his TL.

OK, to be fair, this is Bumroll’s full blurb on the linked site.
The second sentence makes it *slightly* better - but the principal “softness” seems to have been in the head of whoever drew up these ads…..

USE CODE ‘Freespoke’ to GET $3 off your first shipment. Bumroll toilet paper is strong like America because it’s made in America, by Americans. It’s also soft - like our hearts for the environment, which is why Bumroll reinvests in planting native trees in the USA.

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William Lewis  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:19:52am

A while later, as moods change…

Worthwhile

(I thank DS9 for salvaging the concept of the Ferengi because Roddenberry botched it worse than many things.).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:20:28am

re: #301 Dr. Matt

Elmo is really bringing in the best adverts:

This is a promoted tweet on his TL.

I looked. Wow, six rolls are only about twice as expensive as Charmin (the most expensive toilet paper available here), not including shipping.

You can get them up to ninety-six roll boxes.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:22:00am

re: #305 Jay C

We invest in planting native trees: Translation, we’ll send the lucky winning town two tree saplings. /s

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:22:24am
“Speaker Kevin McCarthy urged House Republicans to vote against the resolution brought forward by GOP Rep. Lauren Boebert of Colorado forcing a vote to impeach President Joe Biden this week, arguing now is not the right time,” CNN reports.

“McCarthy argued that Republicans should let committee investigations play out and warning that jumping to impeachment now could threaten their slim majority…

note, NOT because there’s no basis.
but because it could affect their election chances

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:23:07am

re: #309 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

I’m almost hoping they do it so it blows up in McCarthys face.

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:24:05am

re: #287 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Someone at my company has decided to get rid of Jira. Does anyone here know of any decent alternative for managing task and bug tickets?

ADO.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:25:23am
“The Pentagon said Tuesday that it overestimated the value of the weapons it has sent to Ukraine by $6.2 billion over the past two years — about double early estimates — resulting in a surplus that will be used for future security packages,” the AP reports.

so it was in fact a budget / accounting error
no money is missing
and after recalculating, Ukraine will still get the difference

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:27:11am

re: #287 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Someone at my company has decided to get rid of Jira. Does anyone here know of any decent alternative for managing task and bug tickets?

re: #311 lawhawk

ADO.

you do what?

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jeffreyw  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:27:19am

re: #249 Jay C

Even leaving aside the issue that Ms. Lord is a Republican politician (and therefore, like any politician, her comments need to be carefully interpreted) - that Costco receipt thing reeks of BS: First, the fact that she prefaces it with “Thanks, Joe Biden!” is one giveaway: Second, that she only (so far) displays the total - with no breakdown is another; and third, that Rep. Lord’s (Twitter) responses to questions about it are mainly dismissive/insulting sneers at “progressives” makes this crap pretty questionable.

That said, $800 for grocery shopping (at Costco!) does seem a bit steep: it would be useful to know exactly what, and how much, Ms. Lord bought: and what the local Costco’s prices/margins/supply issues, etc. have been over recent months/years. But then, that might require actually thinking about issues; tweeting stupid cheapshots is obviously a lot easier.

BTW, my guess is that part of those high price levels driving up the bill may be that it is in NM: transportation costs tend, IIRC, to make stuff more expensive there to begin with. Also: Lord’s district looks to be the fringes of the ABQ area: there may be an issue of little competition. Even so, what President Biden has to do with it (or what he can do about it) is still irrelevant….

costco.com

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:27:57am

re: #300 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

Did he not think that Democrats who are skilled as prosecutors and lawyers wouldn’t skewer his dumbass in the hearing and show him for a liar, shitmonger, and partisan hack?

Because they did, repeatedly.

Jordan and the GOP can’t rehabilitate his image or reputation because he blew up on the stand under a crossfire of lies and evidence of his own wrongdoing, incompetence, and partisan fuckery.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:28:21am

re: #310 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m almost hoping they do it so it blows up in McCarthys face.

They were really, really hoping that Hunter Biden would blow up in 2024, so that they could impeach the President and then ride that to what they hoped would be a Republican victory. They’re still planning on impeaching him - twice - on the eve of the election, but right now, there’s no “there” there to even give them the facade of “high crimes” that the law requires.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:32:12am

The Ted Cruz Hit Parade keeps on rolling.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:33:57am

re: #315 lawhawk

Did he not think that Democrats who are skilled as prosecutors and lawyers wouldn’t skewer his dumbass in the hearing and show him for a liar, shitmonger, and partisan hack?

Because they did, repeatedly.

Jordan and the GOP can’t rehabilitate his image or reputation because he blew up on the stand under a crossfire of lies and evidence of his own wrongdoing, incompetence, and partisan fuckery.

i guess he had to show up
this is all on Jordan.
what was he thinking sorry.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:35:42am

Can we send the House Republicans on a fact-finding trip to the Titanic?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:39:45am

Skewered.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:40:08am

DISGUSTING!

Report: Michigan GOP Chair Karamo Says Anger Over Tweet Trivializing Holocaust Was ‘Completely Hilarious’

One. Sick. Freak.

talkingpointsmemo.com

Michigan Republican Party Chairwoman Kristina Karamo downplayed concerns about a tweet from the Michigan GOP account — which compared the Holocaust to gun control measures — during a Republican Party event in May, according to audio obtained by The Daily Beast.

The tweet in question elevated a prevalent right-wing talking point that the first thing a government does when they want to control people is take their guns away.

#History has shown us that the first thing a government does when it wants total control over its people is to disarm them,” the Michigan GOP tweet read.

It also included an image of wedding rings from the millions of Jewish people murdered by Nazis during the Holocaust with a caption that read, “Before they collected all these wedding rings… they collected all the guns.”

I REFUSE TO POST THAT TWEET. It makes my blood boil…

She must resign as Michigan GOP chair. Period.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:44:14am

Down goes another insurrectionist.

Mount Dora man takes plea deal in Capitol riot case (WKMG-TV, Orlando, June 19, 2023)

A Mount Dora man has pleaded guilty for his involvement in the attack on the U.S. Capitol.

FBI agents arrested Brian Preller, 33, last August as part of their investigation into a militia that planned violence on Jan. 6, 2021.

In court on Friday, he agreed to a plea deal, where he entered a plea of guilty to one charge of civil disorder.

Peller was one of five Central Florida residents whom agents linked to a militia group called B Squad, which identified with the ideology of the Three Percenters.

The Southern Poverty Law Center said “Three Percenters” often believe the government is working to infringe on citizens’ rights.

(more)

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:44:40am

re: #317 Eclectic Cyborg

The Ted Cruz Hit Parade keeps on rolling.

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Ted Cruz is just trying to distract everyone from the fact that his father murdered JFK.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:46:57am

re: #322 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Down goes another insurrectionist.

Mount Dora man takes plea deal in Capitol riot case (WKMG-TV, Orlando, June 19, 2023)

(more)

When the A-Team is out of your price-range, try the B-Squad.

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sagehen  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:47:04am

The HBO White House Plumbers miniseries suggests that E Howard Hunt may have been part of the conspiracy to murder JFK.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:53:20am

#ChristianNotOtherSpecified

Crossing state lines from Penna. to Ohio for this.

A New Castle man accused of child sex trafficking and corrupting children in Ohio has been found guilty by a jury in Mahoning County Court.

The Ohio jury’s verdict was delivered Wednesday against 35-year-old Jarod Mills of West Terrace Avenue of unlawful attempted sexual contact with a minor.

Mill was arrested in Mahoning County in May 2021 in a sex sting operation by the Operation for Child Trafficking and Sex With Children. His bond has been revoked and he’s remains in the Mahoning County jail, awaiting sentencing.

He was a pastor at the Clifton Flats Church at the time.

Mills was one of 14 people arrested in 2020 in what Ohio’s attorney general called the “largest anti-human trafficking operation in state history.”

Mills is charged with attempted unlawful sexual conduct with a minor, importuning or soliciting of an adolescent, possessing criminal tools and displaying matter harmful to juveniles. State Attorney General Dave Yost said 177 total arrests were made in Operation Autumn Hope, with 109 survivors rescued.

(more)

New Castle man convicted in child trafficking case (New Castle, Penna. News, June 14, 2023)

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:54:01am
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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:55:26am

re: #327 lawhawk

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Bobo is stealing Large Marge’s schtick. Can’t wait to see this play out.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2023 • 9:58:31am

Just a reminder: Madison Cawthorn pleads guilty in case over bringing a loaded handgun through TSA checkpoint

The former Republican congressman was fined $250, without probation, and his firearm will be returned, his attorney said.

Where was the MAGA Nazi fake outrage for getting slap on the wrist? They must have been saving their pearl clutching for Hunter.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 10:02:25am

re: #328 Dr. Matt

Bobo is stealing Large Marge’s schtick. Can’t wait to see this play out.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 21, 2023 • 10:02:43am

re: #329 Dr. Matt

Just a reminder: Madison Cawthorn pleads guilty in case over bringing a loaded handgun through TSA checkpoint

Where was the MAGA Nazi fake outrage for getting slap on the wrist? They must have been saving their pearl clutching for Hunter.

Madison Cawthorn is a has-been. Ol’ Tree-Puncher’s value to the MAGAt nutjob crowd is spent.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2023 • 10:03:19am

re: #329 Dr. Matt

exercising the right to bear weapons is no crime

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TarHellion  Jun 21, 2023 • 10:04:32am

re: #332 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But do I have a right to bare arms?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 10:06:17am

re: #207 William Lewis

So sitting here listening to a random mix of punk/new wave videos (mostly) on YouTube with my headphones on. Bit of Guinness and a bit of rum :)

But YouTube? To go from Ida Maria to Tiffany? That’s just cruel! LOL!

Ah, now, that’s better. NENA | 99 Luftballons [1983] auf deutsch too!

It was too funny to hear that on the radio when I got back stateside in the mid 80’s and I’d start singing the German lyrics and people would look at me like I’d grown a second head.

Robert Lund, 2:48 (NSFW)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 21, 2023 • 10:06:42am

re: #333 TarHellion

But do I have a right to bare arms?

Or arm bears?

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 21, 2023 • 10:07:02am

re: #333 TarHellion

But do I have a right to bare arms?

Only if you’re a man. Women should wear long sleeves, lest you show too much shoulder and be a vile temptress.

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2023 • 10:07:45am

re: #335 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Or arm bears?

Only if cocaine is involved.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 21, 2023 • 10:08:16am

Next thing the Republicans want to ban: Wait, this can’t be real… free school lunches???

newrepublic.com

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 10:08:29am

so if elmo is defining ‘cis’ a slur by edict, shouldnt he also ban ‘trans’?

they are both merely latin roots

cis - the same side
trans - the opposite side

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 21, 2023 • 10:08:52am

re: #333 TarHellion

But do I have a right to bare arms?

Michelle Obama didnt

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Jay C  Jun 21, 2023 • 10:09:03am

re: #328 Dr. Matt

Bobo is stealing Large Marge’s schtick. Can’t wait to see this play out.

Well, from the linked article, there is one more parliamentary hurdle to leap before Boebert’s ridiculous motion* gets to the House floor (apparently, the HoR can/has to vote to “table”, i.e. kill, the resolution) - though Bobo says she has the votes to win. We shall see: hopefully, it will end in an embarrassing defeat for Representative Gun Girl**…

* based mainly on overheated bullshit about “open borders” and “millions of immigrants”, etc. The Usual Crapola.

*Assuming Congressional Republican are even capable of embarrassment: a questionable proposition.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 21, 2023 • 10:09:32am

Hallelujah!

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William Lewis  Jun 21, 2023 • 10:09:59am

re: #339 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

so if elmo is defining ‘cis’ a slur by edict, shouldnt he also ban ‘trans’?

they are both merely latin roots

cis - the same side
trans - the opposite side

Simply points outs his lack of education. Stupid fuck.

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Captain Ron  Jun 21, 2023 • 10:11:08am
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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 21, 2023 • 10:11:41am

Four ships on-site now, handy map in the link.

A flotilla of international rescue ships are steaming towards the Titanic rescue site to try to locate the missing submersible with five people trapped inside with just 20 hours of oxygen left.

Boats from France, Canada and the US Navy are racing towards the site carrying the only specialist equipment in the world capable of making the 12,500ft dive to try to find the missing vessel.

The sub lost communications with its operator, OceanGate Expeditions, less than two hours into its dive to the famous shipwreck on Sunday, with five people onboard.

dailymail.co.uk

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 21, 2023 • 10:12:15am

re: #290 sagehen

nah… bad taste is when I point out that if one of them killed the rest, the oxygen would last a whole lot longer…

I know this is nit-picking, but the Apollo 1 fire demonstrated the danger of an oxygen rich atmosphere in an enclosed space with electrical circuits. Plus (IIRC) SCUBA divers are taught higher concentrations (above 21%) of oxygen are toxic especially above 1.6 atmospheres.

Air? Nitrox? People better versed in what’s appropriate for an ~8 hr drive time?

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 21, 2023 • 10:13:07am

re: #274 DodgerFan1988

Calling racists racists will soon be a slur on Twitter.

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2023 • 10:13:54am
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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 21, 2023 • 10:18:00am

re: #306 William Lewis

A while later, as moods change…

[Embedded content]

(I thank DS9 for salvaging the concept of the Ferengi because Roddenberry botched it worse than many things.).

IMHO, DS9 is the most interesting of the Star Trek series.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2023 • 10:55:49am

re: #343 William Lewis

Simply points outs his lack of education. Stupid fuck.

a place where hetero Catholic adolescents go to worship

the Cis Teen Chapel

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TedStriker  Jun 21, 2023 • 1:50:31pm

re: #306 William Lewis

A while later, as moods change…

[Embedded content]

(I thank DS9 for salvaging the concept of the Ferengi because Roddenberry botched it worse than many things.).

re: #349 BeenHereAwhile

IMHO, DS9 is the most interesting of the Star Trek series.

How Deep Space Nine Actually Saved the Ferengi


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