The Bob Cesca Podcast: Our National Suicide

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Our National Suicide — Closing arguments in Trump’s fraud trial. Our deep dive into why prices are high — and it’s not inflation, it’s corporate price gouging. Blame the greedy corporations, not Biden. What the Democrats are doing to stop the gouging. Judge Cannon rules against Jack Smith’s motion for a gag order. Ken Burns’s commencement at Brandeis. Trump’s harrowing night at the Libertarian convention. Trump is pledging to deport pro-Palestinian protesters. Trump had to sell one of his jets to cover his legal penalties. With Buzz Burbank, music by Circe Link and Christian Nesmith, Seth Adam, and more!

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1
Vicious Babushka  May 28, 2024 • 3:43:49pm

This is the first day of the rest of my life.

Mastodon

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 28, 2024 • 3:48:27pm

Matt Ferrell tries to wrap his head around the current AI trend and make a beginner’s guide to the problems:

AI Just Changed Everything … Again


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jeffreyw  May 28, 2024 • 3:49:21pm

TIL that beard oil was an actual thing..

A story...

We have a new kitten.

I put in some beard oil last night before bed for softening it up, lay down, drifted off, and woke up to what felt like a slap to the face.

Found the kitten wrapped around my face like he was auditioning for the next ALIEN franchise movie... chomping on my beard.

— Tobias S. Buckell (@tobiasbuckell.bsky.social) 2024-05-28T21:40:45.259Z

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 28, 2024 • 3:49:46pm

D-Day Squadron.
These incredible photos were taken TODAY over the English countryside. The D-Day Squadron is a private organization that has assembled several restored C-47s to fly to England for the 80th anniversary observance next week. “That’s All Brother” (AF 42-92847) is the actual aircraft that led the allied airborne forces on the night of June 5-6 1944. Much more at link.

“That’s All, Brother” period style
“That’s All, Brother” color

“Placid Cassie”
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2024 • 3:58:49pm

The Inside Story Of The YouTube Influencer Who Peddles Misinformation To Vietnamese Communities (Talking Points Memo, yesterday)

“Sonia Ohlala borrows heavily from right-wing media outlets and even broadcast from Washington DC on the day of the Capitol riots. But who is she?”

Sonia Ohlala is not your typical YouTube influencer.

Her videos — all in Vietnamese and targeted to the Vietnamese immigrants in America — often come with titles that contain unfounded claims or misleading statements:

On January 6, 2021, Ohlala live streamed while attending one of the protests that later led to the attack on the U.S. Capitol. The next day, she called for her viewers to “Fight for President Trump in Washington DC! Historic moment!” A year later, Ohlala posted about proudly fighting “for my country and my rights” alongside “hundreds of thousands of patriots from all over the United States” who “gathered together in Washington DC to demand transparency for a disgraceful stolen election.”

These videos from Ohlala have since been deleted from YouTube, but The Markup was able to access the original video descriptions through the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine.

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nines09  May 28, 2024 • 4:01:01pm

re: #1 Vicious Babushka

This is the first day of the rest of my life.

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And nothing but the best to come.

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jaunte  May 28, 2024 • 4:01:27pm

@mitchellepner.bsky.social

ADA Steinglass just shoved another Trump social media post down his throat. Trump claimed he hadn’t “seen or spoken to her since I took a picture with her on a golf course … close to 18 years ago.”

Trump’s most loyal secretary testified Ms. Daniels was invited to a Trump Tower meeting.

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darthstar  May 28, 2024 • 4:02:41pm

re: #7 jaunte

‘False acquisition’…brilliant.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 28, 2024 • 4:03:38pm

Because we need to know:

If all humans died, when would the last light go out?


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darthstar  May 28, 2024 • 4:07:32pm

I think it’s rude that Steinglass keeps referring to PRESIDENTFOREVER Trump as ‘the defendant’. - most GOP members of Congress right now.

7pm there and he’s still going.

Mastodon

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HRH Stanley Sea  May 28, 2024 • 4:14:10pm

re: #1 Vicious Babushka

I see the 🌈 luggage tags!

Settle in, relax & enjoy the family support.

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nines09  May 28, 2024 • 4:15:21pm

After the storm.
Love all youse. Yins. All. Yano. Nothing but good vibes. Yo.

Rescued hibiscus takes root
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Joe Bacon ✅  May 28, 2024 • 4:18:26pm

Went to Kaiser’s Hollywood offices on Friday and Today for followups and now I’m seeing these plastered on streetlights around the $¢ientology HQ

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HRH Stanley Sea  May 28, 2024 • 4:21:56pm

I’m definitely biased, but it’s sounding like a very good closing argument..

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 28, 2024 • 4:25:30pm

I love figs and am happy that this year’s Crash Course coin celebrates figs!

Help Keep Crash Course Free Forever!

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gocart mozart  May 28, 2024 • 4:26:37pm

re: #14 HRH Stanley Sea

Of course it’s “biased.” It’s supposed to be biased.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 28, 2024 • 4:26:45pm

Much of YouTube, like nearly all of social media, is a wasteland.

But the Green brothers have made their little corner of YouTube one of the bright spots in this 21st century invention.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 28, 2024 • 4:29:01pm

re: #1 Vicious Babushka

This is the first day of the rest of my life.

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It’s cavernous! I hope you love it there!!

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So Cal Greek Hippie  May 28, 2024 • 4:32:33pm

2024: Ready for Coffee, 1500

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 28, 2024 • 4:34:51pm

re: #3 jeffreyw

TIL that beard oil was an actual thing..

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Do you want a squeaky beard? You have to use beard oil.

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nines09  May 28, 2024 • 4:35:24pm

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 28, 2024 • 4:37:14pm

Disabled Woman Speaks Out on Alleged Nick Carter Assault

Backstreet Boys superstar Nick Carter has been dogged for years by allegations of sexual assault, and those claims take centerstage in Fallen Idols: Nick and Aaron Carter, a four-part ID docuseries in which three women detail how their encounters with the singer turned into scarring nightmares. It’s a #MeToo-inspired censure of fame and the power and privilege it breeds, and in its final episode (airing Tuesday, May 28), the series focuses on one of those individuals, who is disabled, claims that Nick took ugly advantage of her when she was just a kid—and is now fighting to hold him accountable.

Shannon “Shay” Ruth was a 17-year-old Mormon with cerebral palsy and autism when, in 2001, she attended a Backstreet Boys concert at Washington state’s Tacoma Dome. Waiting with others to get autographs after the show, she was invited by Nick to check out his tour bus. Once inside, she claims she was given drugged alcohol (which she’d never had before) and was then forced to perform oral sex, and to endure it being given to her by Nick, who afterwards threatened her and called her a “retarded bitch.”

thedailybeast.com

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 28, 2024 • 4:38:30pm

Things were getting out of hand for a while there.

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jaunte  May 28, 2024 • 4:42:57pm

Trump’s fake barbecue.

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Jay C  May 28, 2024 • 4:43:11pm

re: #21 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

Do you want a squeaky beard? You have to use beard oil.

Does the beard oil make it squeak, or keep it from squeaking….?

One of these days, I’ll post a selfie which will explain my attitude about beard oils….

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 28, 2024 • 4:46:19pm

re: #26 Jay C

Does the beard oil make it squeak, or keep it from squeaking….?

One of these days, I’ll post a selfie which will explain my attitude about beard oils….

To stop it. It works just like squeaky hinges. No one knows why.

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 28, 2024 • 4:49:15pm

there was some skink conversation downstairs…here’s one that lives in the kitchen area of our hobbit house:

blurry broadhead skink

according to my skink research, this fella can grow up to 33 cm (13 in) long and weigh up to 70g

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Unabogie  May 28, 2024 • 4:53:55pm

re: #25 jaunte

Trump’s fake barbecue.

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You know it’s fake because Trump never smiles.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 28, 2024 • 4:55:14pm

re: #29 Unabogie

You know it’s fake because Trump never smiles.

Sure he does but only when he’s inflicted pain or suffering on someone.

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 28, 2024 • 4:57:00pm

Mastodon

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jeffreyw  May 28, 2024 • 4:57:26pm

re: #21 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

Do you want a squeaky beard? You have to use beard oil.

I have six cats, can’t take that chance.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 28, 2024 • 4:59:07pm

Want to guess who this bright faced moppet might be?

Click for answer:

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wrenchwench  May 28, 2024 • 4:59:21pm

re: #31 Backwoods Sleuth

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They thought the natural gas would never eat THEIR facade.

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sizzzzlerz  May 28, 2024 • 5:00:40pm

re: #20 So Cal Greek Hippie

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An exquisite example of a still life photograph in the 21st century.

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austin_blue  May 28, 2024 • 5:09:38pm

re: #1 Vicious Babushka

This is the first day of the rest of my life.

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Nice floors!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2024 • 5:10:37pm

re: #26 Jay C

Does the beard oil make it squeak, or keep it from squeaking….?

One of these days, I’ll post a selfie which will explain my attitude about beard oils….

Beard oil is also used for shaving with a straight razor, since the oil works on the skin underneath the beard.

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 28, 2024 • 5:16:18pm

Mastodon

Mastodon

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 28, 2024 • 5:16:44pm

Mastodon

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mmmirele  May 28, 2024 • 5:18:58pm

re: #3 jeffreyw

TIL that beard oil was an actual thing..

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I went to look at the ingredients for the beard oil (I knew it was already a thing). I didn’t see anything directly (like “fish oil” or “catnip oil”) that might set a cat off, but per the other messages, apparently some cats like aloe vera? I’m not going to experiment on my cats.

ETA: I don’t have a beard. In fact, I conduct regular search and destroy missions on my face to get rid of the hairs that pop up with regularity since menopause.

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wrenchwench  May 28, 2024 • 5:20:28pm

re: #39 Backwoods Sleuth

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I never looked at the word this way before:

de-liberate

Make it so.

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Sherlock Hound  May 28, 2024 • 5:20:54pm

re: #21 jeffreyw

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On Jaws in Paris:

“On a besoin d’un bateau plus gros!”

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 28, 2024 • 5:21:18pm

Mastodon

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2024 • 5:21:40pm

Friendly Atheist, 19:49

The GOP is still claiming the State Department is promoting atheism.

GOP still claims, without evidence, the State Department is “promoting atheism” (Livestream)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2024 • 5:24:37pm

Pope Francis I apologises after using an Italian slur in describing gay men during a meeting of bishops. (5:48)

Pope apologizes for using slur while discussing opposition to gay men in priesthood

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 28, 2024 • 5:25:05pm

re: #44 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Friendly Atheist, 19:49

The GOP is still claiming the State Department is promoting atheism.

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Their charter doesn’t even mention Jesus. Satanic!1!

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jaunte  May 28, 2024 • 5:25:54pm

re: #44 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Once again, the GOP indulging themselves in projection. Christian Nationalism is sucking up all the big promotion dollars lately.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2024 • 5:32:21pm

re: #46 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

Their charter doesn’t even mention Jesus. Satanic!1!

Three Republicans on the foreign affairs committee are trying to get atheists killed. Last year they made this accusation, and they’re doing it again, claiming Joe Biden and the Democratic Party (no friends of atheists) are intentionally promoting atheism in Sri Lanka and Nepal.

What the grants do are promote religious freedom (all conservatives lie).

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jaunte  May 28, 2024 • 5:34:01pm

Mastodon

The list of Trump’s phonemic and semantic aphasia he includes is pretty shocking when you see it all in one place.

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Florida Panhandler  May 28, 2024 • 5:37:43pm

re: #44 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Which theistic ideology is the State Department supposed to be promoting?

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Charles Johnson  May 28, 2024 • 5:38:22pm

re: #1 Vicious Babushka

This is the first day of the rest of my life.

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Looks like a really nice pad! Excellent flooring.

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jaunte  May 28, 2024 • 5:38:49pm

re: #50 Florida Panhandler

They’ll have to ask Jesus’ representative, the Speaker.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 28, 2024 • 5:39:04pm

re: #49 jaunte

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The list of Trump’s phonemic and semantic aphasia he includes is pretty shocking when you see it all in one place.

Even if his faculties had not declined since 2016, his views and plans for our nation pose a deadly threat to our democracy and survival. He is pure evil — as are all those who continue to support him.

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Charles Johnson  May 28, 2024 • 5:45:52pm

just noticed the wires running along the baseboards of my house connecting the landline phones that no longer exist

— Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-05-29T00:45:15.000Z

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 28, 2024 • 5:47:48pm

Her license is suspended for only 3 years…she should have been disbarred for life…

Former President Donald Trump’s onetime lawyer Jenna Ellis can’t practice law for three years, according to a new report.

Ellis agreed to the suspension of her Colorado law license after pleading guilty to participating in a conspiracy to overturn Trump’s election loss in Georgia in 2020, according to NBC’s local affiliate 9 News.

Ellis turned prosecution witness when she admitted to one count of aiding and abetting false statements.

9news.com

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wrenchwench  May 28, 2024 • 5:50:42pm

re: #55 Joe Bacon ✅

Her license is suspended for only 3 years…she should have been disbarred for life…

Gotta encourage more of this behavior:

Ellis turned prosecution witness …

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 28, 2024 • 5:51:59pm

By the way aren’t Sammy And The Supremes supposed to release their decision to give Smellvis total immunity this week?

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Nerdy Fish  May 28, 2024 • 5:52:56pm

re: #57 Joe Bacon ✅

By the way aren’t Sammy And The Supremes supposed to release their decision to give Smellvis total immunity this week?

No, I believe the decisions from this term run through July.

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Unabogie  May 28, 2024 • 5:57:15pm

re: #58 Nerdy Fish

No, I believe the decisions from this term run through July.

Their plan is to wait until the last possible day, and the release the opinion at 11:59pm that the case should be remanded back to DC for a new round of fighting that will be settled back at SCOTUS next year.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2024 • 5:59:27pm

re: #50 Florida Panhandler

Which theistic ideology is the State Department supposed to be promoting?

The idea that atheists have religious freedom. That’s translated by the GOP to “The State Department is promoting atheism.”

The GOP also released in a hearing the name of a group which received some money: Humanists International.

That group defends the rights of atheists from being assassinated in India, Bangladesh, Nepal, and Sri Lanka. By directly naming the group, the GOP painted an assassination target on their workers (that wasn’t an accident).

Hemant Mehta made a Freedom of Information Act request two years ago when Republicans started whinging; the State Department denied his request (being a life-and-death matter).

The idea that Joe Biden “promotes atheism” is ludicrous on its face (cough inviting John Hagee to a Holocaust remembrance ceremony—the raging antisemite who also preaches atheists should be driven out of the country or killed).

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steve_davis  May 28, 2024 • 6:01:35pm

Godamnit, Apple. Focus put out something like a dozen albums. Why the fuck does a search for Focus give me not a single freakin album? So now I’ve got to go old school and search for a song title so I get a bite. These guys don’t need AI. They just need somebody with a brain to straighten out the search algorithm.

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mmmirele  May 28, 2024 • 6:02:08pm

re: #13 Joe Bacon ✅

Went to Kaiser’s Hollywood offices on Friday and Today for followups and now I’m seeing these plastered on streetlights around the $¢ientology HQ

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I know why this is! Because Scientology has this bad habit of pressuring kids to join the Sea Org and to sign “billion year contracts”. I don’t think the contracts themselves are legal even for adults (certainly Scientology has never taken anyone to court for “blowing”/leaving the Sea Org), but it’s for certain not legal for minors. That said, I could see Sea Org recruiters getting the Scieno parents to sign on the dotted line to get their kids into the Sea Org.

I’ve been away from that scene for a while now (only occasionally check in), so I am wondering what is causing this? (Not that I expect anyone here to know.)

On a completely different subject, I thought I would socialize the news, reported by Jessica Valenti in her “Abortion, Every Day” newsletter, that the Texas GOP Platform endorses the death penalty for abortion patients. That, I’ll remind you, is what those whackjobs at the church near me want. What disturbs me *greatly* is how this is moving into the “mainstream.” My Spidey sense is tingling, and not in a good way.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2024 • 6:02:48pm

re: #50 Florida Panhandler

Which theistic ideology is the State Department supposed to be promoting?

The idea is the State Department programme is to support freedom of religion in other countries.

One of the objections made by the House Judiciary this week was the money is also used to protect Christians in China.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 28, 2024 • 6:03:25pm

re: #60 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Don’t forget that Pulpit Pimp John Hagee preaches that all the Jews must return to Israel before Armageddon can commence and once they are there all the Jews will be killed except for 144,000 male virgins who will convert to Xtianity.

In other words Hagee wants to finish what Hitler started.

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Decatur Deb  May 28, 2024 • 6:07:41pm

re: #64 Joe Bacon ✅

…all the Jews will be killed except for 144,000 male virgins who will convert to Xtianity.

Hope they’re not looking for them on Ha Yarkon St.

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Semper Fi  May 28, 2024 • 6:09:08pm

re: #7 jaunte

@mitchellepner.bsky.social

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Trump sounds a little flustered.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2024 • 6:11:16pm

American Atheists have responded to the concerted attack on the State Department by Republicans on the Foreign Affairs Committee.

Atheists, Humanists Decry Smear Campaign Against State Department Program Supporting Inclusive Religious Freedom Programming (May 23, 2024)

Clip from the statement, which will get no coverage from the centrist press, but the GOP already got their headlines:

It is appalling that the Republican Majority on the House Foreign Affairs Committee continues their campaign of mischaracterization, distortions, and unmitigated lies to attack the vital and lifesaving work of Humanists International. Their attempts to weaponize inclusive Freedom of Religion or Belief programs by the State Department are nothing more than cynical political gamesmanship — and outright appeals to Christian nationalism.

In their letter, McCaul, Mast, and Smith attack a State Department grant intended to promote religious freedom for atheists, humanists, and other nonreligious people by making the odious claim that “Christian and Muslim minorities [], unlike atheists and humanists, face real persecution in the relevant parts of South Asia.”

The fact is that atheists, humanists, and other nonreligious people face state-sanctioned violence across the globe, including in South Asia, because of their religious minority status. The committee’s politically motivated attacks minimize these threats and put the lives of nonreligious people, including those who participated in the program, at risk.

For years, State Department grants have helped protect a variety of religious groups from this kind of persecution abroad, particularly in the Middle East, Northern Africa, and South and Central Asia. Humanists, atheists, and other nonreligious people need — and deserve — access to the same protections.

We are proud to support programs that promote democracy, pluralism, and universal respect for Freedom of Religion or Belief and ensure that protecting those values remains a core objective of American foreign policy.

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mmmirele  May 28, 2024 • 6:11:18pm

re: #59 Unabogie

Their plan is to wait until the last possible day, and the release the opinion at 11:59pm that the case should be remanded back to DC for a new round of fighting that will be settled back at SCOTUS next year.

Supreme Court decisions are issued on certain days of the week (and no I don’t remember which days off the top of my head) through the month of June. Then they go on vacation. They can choose to hold over a case, which has happened before. both Brown v Board of Education (argued 1952, released 1954) and Roe v Wade (argued 1971, released 1973) were holdover decisions.

My birthday has seen a number of significant Supreme Court decisions announced on it, since it’s in later June. But now that my birthday is a national holiday (Juneteenth), I will no longer have the joy or grief of seeing a significant decision decided on that day.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 28, 2024 • 6:21:37pm

Uh oh!

Another day another problem for Screwdy G.

For your reading pleasure I’m attaching the link to read the latest motion filed by Screwdy G’s Creditors asking for the Court to appoint a trustee to oversee his finances!

courtlistener.com

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wrenchwench  May 28, 2024 • 6:22:08pm

c.im

Women too.

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mmmirele  May 28, 2024 • 6:22:26pm

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The idea is the State Department programme is to support freedom of religion in other countries.

One of the objections made by the House Judiciary this week was the money is also used to protect Christians in China.

Back in the 1990s, the Clinton Administration used this program to razz Germany because Germany treated Scientology not as a religion, but a dangerous political group scheming to take over governments. Year after year in the State Department freedom of religion report, Germany would get chewed out, and Germany would be like, “um, we WENT through this before, you need to butt out.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2024 • 6:25:29pm

(ninety seconds)

Liberal Redneck SHORT - The MAGA Reich

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Romantic Heretic  May 28, 2024 • 6:27:28pm

re: #62 mmmirele

Read this post to my wife. She noted, “Then men who rape women who get an abortion should also be executed.”

It won’t work that way of course, but she’s right.

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jaunte  May 28, 2024 • 6:29:01pm

re: #73 Romantic Heretic

“Then men who rape women who get an abortion should also be executed.”

Unacceptable losses in the ranks of the GOP.

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Romantic Heretic  May 28, 2024 • 6:30:41pm

re: #72 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

A Panzer IV is always going to be more imposing than a pick up truck no matter how big its ballsack is.

Snort.

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jaunte  May 28, 2024 • 6:31:13pm

Mastodon

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JC1  May 28, 2024 • 6:31:36pm

re: #13 Joe Bacon ✅

Went to Kaiser’s Hollywood offices on Friday and Today for followups and now I’m seeing these plastered on streetlights around the $¢ientology HQ

[Embedded content]

This could be applied to any religion.

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Dangerman  May 28, 2024 • 6:33:10pm

re: #24 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Things were getting out of hand for a while there.

[Embedded content]

average sized centaurs only

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JC1  May 28, 2024 • 6:36:03pm

re: #78 Dangerman

average sized centaurs only

That’s the best one. They can be held liable for tiny and large centaurs.

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jaunte  May 28, 2024 • 6:36:39pm

re: #78 Dangerman

Kaiju centaurs require cooperative defense.

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Charles Johnson  May 28, 2024 • 6:42:24pm

I’d like to see jury deliberations tomorrow last about 37 minutes before returning a unanimous guilty verdict on all counts

just sayin

— Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-05-29T01:38:56.000Z

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Captain Ron  May 28, 2024 • 6:43:02pm

x.com

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Dangerman  May 28, 2024 • 6:45:08pm

Pitchbot:

Robert De Niro campaigning for Joe Biden is a desperate attempt to use a celebrity to sway an election.

by Chuck Norris, Randy Quaid, and Kid Rock

(Nugent couldn’t be reached for comment)

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darthstar  May 28, 2024 • 6:46:47pm

Nice… Merchan said to disregard the prison comment…but doesn’t rule it out.

Mastodon

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Dangerman  May 28, 2024 • 6:47:30pm

Oh dear

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jaunte  May 28, 2024 • 6:49:10pm

re: #84 Dangerman

Trump campaign parades small cluster of short-range actors in an attempt to alter perceptions of a “celebrity gap.”

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Nerdy Fish  May 28, 2024 • 6:49:38pm

re: #85 darthstar

Nice… Merchan said to disregard the prison comment…but doesn’t rule it out.

[Embedded content]

That’s because the decision for Trump to go to prison is his and his alone. Telling the jury that they would be throwing him in prison for convicting him is a blatant attempt to influence them, trying to make them feel guilty for considering a guilty verdict because “a fine and upstanding citizen such as Donald J. Trump doesn’t deserve to be thrown in prison for a little light fraud.”

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 28, 2024 • 6:52:20pm

re: #7 jaunte

He’s like an incel who pursues a woman and when she rejects him, calls her fat and ugly. What a fucking child.

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Dangerman  May 28, 2024 • 6:56:33pm

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Dangerman  May 28, 2024 • 6:57:35pm

re: #87 jaunte

Trump campaign parades small cluster of short-range actors in an attempt to alter perceptions of a “celebrity gap.”

Celebrity has a liberal bias

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Dangerman  May 28, 2024 • 6:59:07pm

re: #89 GlutenFreeJesus

He’s like an incel who pursues a woman and when she rejects him, calls her fat and ugly. What a fucking child.

The “horseface” comment among so many others

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 28, 2024 • 7:05:59pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

At first glance I thought that was some kind of new-fangled kitchen appliance gadget, perhaps an automatic opener/resealer for zip lock frozen food bags.

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Nerdy Fish  May 28, 2024 • 7:06:53pm

re: #94 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

At first glance I though that was some kind of new-fangled kitchen appliance gadget, perhaps an automatic opener/resealer for zip lock frozen food bags.

It looks like a fucken stapler.

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jaunte  May 28, 2024 • 7:06:57pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

Inverted Everest.

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jaunte  May 28, 2024 • 7:07:37pm

John Schwartz @jswatz.bsky.social

Traveling to the bottom of the sea in a stapler really makes a lot of sense and I have a list of billionaires I’d like to see go exploring in other simulacra of office equipment.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 28, 2024 • 7:09:56pm

re: #61 steve_davis

Godamnit, Apple. Focus put out something like a dozen albums. Why the fuck does a search for Focus give me not a single freakin album? So now I’ve got to go old school and search for a song title so I get a bite. These guys don’t need AI. They just need somebody with a brain to straighten out the search algorithm.

What about searching for “Focus band albums”? Does that provide them?

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ericblair  May 28, 2024 • 7:10:44pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

Keep sending the billionaires down there in substandard (heh) craft, please.

I call dibs on the book title “How the Titanic Saved The World”.

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darthstar  May 28, 2024 • 7:24:17pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

He should take Musk, Koch, Zuck, Bezos, and that Twitter fucker Jack with him…and live stream the event.

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Dangerman  May 28, 2024 • 7:24:27pm
The Democratic National Committee is preparing to nominate President Biden as the party’s presidential nominee through a ‘virtual roll call’ ahead of its August convention in Chicago, an unusual step to ensure that Biden can meet a deadline to appear on the ballot in Ohio,” the Washington Post reports.

While everyone’s bellyaching the Dems need to do something they’ve been working on this for weeks. Quietly.

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darthstar  May 28, 2024 • 7:26:34pm

Oh, god… he’s 74 and probably has some terminal illness so he wants to go out famous, but can’t afford a rocket.

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darthstar  May 28, 2024 • 7:30:07pm

re: #101 Dangerman

While everyone’s bellyaching the Dems need to do something they’ve been working on this for weeks. Quietly.

‘Fuck Ohio’ should be Biden’s next bumper sticker.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 28, 2024 • 7:30:45pm

re: #100 darthstar

He should take Musk, Koch, Zuck, Bezos, and that Twitter fucker Jack with him…and live stream the event.

Ellison and that fuckface Theil, too. At least Bezos provides a valuable service.

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Belafon  May 28, 2024 • 7:33:01pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 28, 2024 • 7:34:02pm

re: #105 Belafon

I’m a terrible person. I 😂😂😂😂😂 at that.

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Belafon  May 28, 2024 • 7:35:14pm

re: #106 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’m a terrible person. I 😂😂😂😂😂 at that.

My son sent me that one. I didn’t think it would actually work as a response to some rich guy.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 28, 2024 • 7:41:00pm
Lady Gaga performed on stage with Covid. Did we learn nothing from the pandemic?

Should you go into work when you’re sick with a contagious virus? Lady Gaga has spoken and the answer, it seems, is “sure, why not?” During a recent Q&A for an HBO concert special based on her 2022 Chromatica Ball tour, the pop star was asked to reveal something she had never shared before. In response, she said that she’d performed five shows while sick with Covid. It probably would have been wise to never share that little titbit, to be honest, and it is a little disturbing to nonchalantly share it now. Still, rather than seeming troubled by this information, the crowd watching the Q&A appeared to cheer and applaud while Lady Gaga grinned.

To be fair, Lady Gaga isn’t a monster (though her fans are - they call themselves “Little Monsters”): she made it clear that she did have a little think about the ethics of spewing infectious droplets into an enclosed space. The singer said she shared her Covid diagnosis with everyone on her team at the time and told them they didn’t have to work if it made them uncomfortable. As for the concertgoers? “The way that I saw it is the fans are all putting themselves in harm’s way every day coming to the show,” she reasoned.

These revelations have had a mixed response on social media. Some Lady Gaga fans marvelled at her work ethic and physical stamina. (And, morals aside, the fact that she could perform with Covid is impressive; I could barely wash my face.) Others called the pop star selfish and wildly irresponsible. Someone even claimed, in a viral but unsubstantiated tweet, that their aunt died of Covid after going to a Lady Gaga concert. “We wouldn’t have gone if we knew Gaga had Covid,” the person wrote.

theguardian.com

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Belafon  May 28, 2024 • 7:41:16pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

Quote from my son after sending him that story:

Lol I saw someone on Twitter say “im down for sacrificing billionaires to the sea gods every year”

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Vicious Babushka  May 28, 2024 • 7:42:34pm

Did I forget to pack my meds? I can’t find them. Oh shit.

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Nerdy Fish  May 28, 2024 • 7:42:52pm

re: #110 Vicious Babushka

Did I forget to pack my meds? I can’t find them. Oh shit.

Oh, that’s really not good.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 28, 2024 • 7:43:44pm

re: #103 darthstar

‘Fuck Ohio’ should be Biden’s next bumper sticker.

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danarchy  May 28, 2024 • 7:43:47pm

re: #102 darthstar

Oh, god… he’s 74 and probably has some terminal illness so he wants to go out famous, but can’t afford a rocket.

I can’t actually read the article because paywall and eff them, but I’m not sure what he is trying to prove. I mean there are submersibles currently rated to go that deep. Cameron’s deepsea challenger went deeper and only cost about $10 million.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2024 • 7:53:13pm

re: #110 Vicious Babushka

Did I forget to pack my meds? I can’t find them. Oh shit.

You can call your pharmacy and hopefully they can transfer your prescription to one near you in Florida.

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Vicious Babushka  May 28, 2024 • 7:53:54pm

Well who could have predicted something like this?

Mastodon

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2024 • 7:56:33pm

re: #113 danarchy

I can’t actually read the article because paywall and eff them, but I’m not sure what he is trying to prove. I mean there are submersibles currently rated to go that deep. Cameron’s deepsea challenger went deeper and only cost about $10 million.

The article is at archive (dot) is

archive.is

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2024 • 7:58:17pm

re: #116 Vicious Babushka

The first theory is the most plausible IMO.

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darthstar  May 28, 2024 • 8:05:42pm

Mastodon

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darthstar  May 28, 2024 • 8:07:28pm

re: #116 Vicious Babushka

Well who could have predicted something like this?

[Embedded content]

Wait until that asshole learns about genetics.

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sagehen  May 28, 2024 • 8:07:52pm

re: #98 Hecuba’s daughter

What about searching for “Focus band albums”? Does that provide them?

Hocus Pocus by Focus.

Once you’ve hit on one song, there’ll be links to other work by the band.

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Amory Blaine  May 28, 2024 • 8:09:57pm

I missed a lot. Did VB move from Michigan to Florida?

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wrenchwench  May 28, 2024 • 8:11:37pm

re: #122 Amory Blaine

I missed a lot. Did VB move from Michigan to Florida?

Today. You’re on top of it.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 28, 2024 • 8:12:00pm

re: #101 Dangerman

It’s what I have expected and what I wrote here a few weeks ago.

The actual count of delegates and nomination process does not have to be a big convention.

Just turn the convention into a big stump speech, promote the platform, promote the candidates lower on the card, etc.

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Semper Fi  May 28, 2024 • 8:16:33pm

re: #122 Amory Blaine

I missed a lot. Did VB move from Michigan to Florida?

She arrived today and probably going to bed after 10pm. She has a lot of work to do tomorrow getting the kitchen organized. We’re hoping for Challah in just a couple days.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 28, 2024 • 8:31:07pm

Why yes, this is deeply troubling.

EXCLUSIVE: Florida educators trained to teach students Christian nationalism

Training materials produced by the Florida Department of Education direct middle and high school teachers to indoctrinate students in the tenets of Christian nationalism, a right-wing effort to merge Christian and American identities. Thousands of Florida teachers, lured by cash stipends, have attended trainings featuring these materials.

A three-day training course on civic education, conducted throughout Florida in the summer of 2023, included a presentation on the “Influences of the Judeo-Christian Tradition” on the founding of the United States. According to speaker notes accompanying one slide, teachers were told that “Christianity challenged the notion that religion should be subservient to the goals of the state,” and the same hierarchy is reflected in America’s founding documents. That slide quotes the Bible to assert that “[c]ivil government must be respected, but the state is not God.” Teachers were told the same principle is embedded in the Declaration of Independence.

Popular Information obtained the slides from the Florida Freedom to Read Project, which received them from the Florida Department of Education after filing a public records request.

The next slide in the deck quotes an article by Peter Lillback, the president of Westminster Theological Seminary and the founder of The Providence Forum, an organization that promotes and defends Christian nationalism. The group’s executive director, Jerry Newcombe, writes a weekly column for World Net Daily — a far-right site known for publishing hundreds of stories falsely suggesting Obama was a Muslim born in Africa.

Lillback, a favorite of right-wing pundit Glenn Beck, is not a prominent historian. But Lillback is one of the original signatories of the Manhattan Declaration, a 2009 document calling for civil disobedience if the United States fails to adopt the views of right-wing Christians on abortion and same-sex marriage.

WAY more at the link. Disgusting.

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Amory Blaine  May 28, 2024 • 8:40:23pm

re: #125 Semper Fi

Oh good. I was concerned with the cooking arrangement.

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jeffreyw  May 28, 2024 • 8:53:44pm

ok...i have questions

— darth™️ (@darthbluesky.bsky.social) 2024-05-29T00:44:48.949Z

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 28, 2024 • 8:55:22pm

re: #25 jaunte

Trump’s fake barbecue.

[Embedded content]

Right out of Soviet or Maoist propaganda.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 28, 2024 • 9:13:41pm

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Semper Fi  May 28, 2024 • 9:17:46pm

re: #130 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

[Embedded content]

I laughed too. Sometimes Siri responds to one of my audibles when, I swear, I didn’t say, “Siri.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2024 • 9:22:50pm

And now, an opportunity to bend your mind in weird ways. (11:43)

This Black Hole Could be Bigger Than The Universe

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JC1  May 28, 2024 • 9:32:18pm

So I binge watched the new Apple TV show Sugar this weekend. It’s a noir detective story staring Colin Farrell. I really liked it. There is a twist that I did NOT see coming AT ALL, but it made sense in retrospect. I highly recommend the show and highly advise that you not read any details about it before you watch it.

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jaunte  May 28, 2024 • 9:36:29pm

re: #128 jeffreyw

Depends on the wind speed at the cookout.
Heavy Duty up to 9 on the Beaufort scale, Extra for 10-12.

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Captain Ron  May 28, 2024 • 9:40:15pm

I found a couple of coyote scat in my back yard today. I knew they traveled the open space but until now didn’t suspect they jumped my 6 foot fence.

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Captain Ron  May 28, 2024 • 9:41:46pm

from two years ago..

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jaunte  May 28, 2024 • 9:46:07pm

@theatropos.bsky.social

Turns out the developed worlds drop in fertility rates are actually mostly explained by the near elimination of teen pregnancy. Which is a good thing, also its why the far right is obsessed over it.

Foghorn Leghorn @foghorn453.bsky.social

More than half the drop in America’s total fertility rate is explained by women under the age of 19 now having next to no children. Around a third of the missing births would have been unplanned, and the majority of them would have been to women on low incomes.
archive.ph

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goddamnedfrank  May 28, 2024 • 10:40:01pm

"Why didn't the Gaza pier work"

Yeah that sounds like the Army I'm familiar with.

— ex-Lethality Jane (@lethalityjane.bsky.social) 2024-05-29T05:02:45.927Z

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 28, 2024 • 11:14:59pm

Not a good sign for the future:

#ClimateChange will dramatically impact streamflow and contributions to the #ColoradoRiver by increasing forest water use and reducing #GroundwaterLevels. Researchers from #DRI, USGS, and @berkeleylab.bsky.social teamed up for the new study in @Nature Water. Read: bit.ly/dristreamflow

— Desert Research Institute (@driscience.bsky.social) 2024-05-28T22:55:05.065Z

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 28, 2024 • 11:36:03pm

As I noted yesterday, India is getting hot, very hot:

Indian capital records highest-ever temperature of 49.9 Celsius

Temperatures in India’s capital have soared to a record-high 49.9 degrees Celsius (121.8 Fahrenheit) as authorities warn of water shortages in the sprawling mega-city.

The India Meteorological Department (IMD), which reported “severe heat-wave conditions”, recorded the temperatures on Tuesday at two Delhi suburbs stations at Narela and Mungeshpur.

The weather bureau said the temperatures were nine degrees higher than expected.

[…]

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 28, 2024 • 11:44:10pm

At the rate we’re going with emissions…

And the rate the Earth is responding…

It won’t be a couple of decades before the entire global interconnected economy will fall apart because of climate change.

They’ll just be too many crises to manage.

I’m not a doomer in the sense of the grifting-doomers.

Rather, I am now in the camp of what I call the unravelers.

World events will just get too complicated for nations to successfully accomodate.

And then there will be the wars.

What if a nation such as India decides that it can only survive if it takes Solar Radiation Management (SRM) into it’s own hands, and starts to dump sulphur into the upper atmosphere to lower surface temps?

Will other countries object? And if so, will they intervene?

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No Malarkey!  May 28, 2024 • 11:51:14pm

re: #141 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

At the rate we’re going with emissions…

And the rate the Earth is responding…

It won’t be a couple of decades before the entire global interconnected economy will fall apart because of climate change.

They’ll just be too many crises to manage.

I’m not a doomer in the sense of the grifting-doomers.

Rather, I am now in the camp of what I call the unravelers.

World events will just get too complicated for nations to successfully accomodate.

And then there will be the wars.

What if a nation such as India decides that it can only survive if it takes Solar Radiation Management (SRM) into it’s own hands, and starts to dump sulphur into the upper atmosphere to lower surface temps?

Will other countries object? And if so, will they intervene?

Neal Stephenson wrote a whole novel about that scenario. Though in his novel India was opposing such a scheme launched by an American.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 28, 2024 • 11:58:00pm

Why is it "Biden's economy"??

In reality is is just the US economy, and whether something is perceived as "good" or not is the big question of the keypost.

My own suspicion is that what is at play in these survey questions has more to do with identity politics than anything else.

— Freetoken (@freetoken.bsky.social) 2024-05-29T06:57:29.384Z

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Captain Ron  May 28, 2024 • 11:58:03pm

Farmers must kill 4.2M chickens after bird flu hits Iowa egg farm.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 29, 2024 • 12:03:50am

re: #142 No Malarkey!

Neal Stephenson wrote a whole novel about that scenario. Though in his novel India was opposing such a scheme launched by an American.

Speaking of a “termination shock”, it now seems as if India, a major contributor of atmospheric aerosols, should it decide to radically reduce its aerosols from it coal stacks (for example) and ICEs, that the surface temps in India (and elsewhere) would skyrocket rapidly.

Aerosols precipitate out of the atmosphere relatively quickly, which is why the scenario in the book you linked would not come about. The Texas guy would have to continually launch rockets.

In proposed SRM schemes, jets are continuously flying around the globe, sending out sulfur.

Indeed, some have proposed that we should be adding sulfur to regular jet fuel, to make commericial airline traffic de facto geoengineering tools.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 29, 2024 • 12:16:35am

When I was young and read books on astronomy the best images of galaxies were from the Palomar Observatory, and were fuzzy black and white pictures.

Now:

Beautiful JWST/NIRCam data processing of NGC 3972 by Go Webb.
www.flickr.com/photos/19643...
🔭 🧪

— Jwst Feed (@jwstfeed.bsky.social) 2024-05-28T20:31:27.761Z

What boggles my mind most are the numerous background galaxies so small because they are so far away.

NGC 3972 itself is 66 million light years away.

So if one of those background galaxies is roughly the same kind of galaxy with roughly the same count of stars, you can just compare the sizes to estimate their distant. So if a background galaxy is 1/20th the size on the sky, then its around 1.3 billion light years away.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 12:36:54am

re: #3 jeffreyw

TIL that beard oil was an actual thing..

sounds like an anecdote they told in the movie 1917 about the rats attacking a soldier for his hair gel and carrying off an ear

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 12:38:13am

re: #4 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

D-Day Squadron.
several restored C-47s to fly to England for the 80th anniversary observance next week.

those planes did as much to win WW2 as any bomber or fighter plane

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 12:40:19am

re: #13 Joe Bacon ✅

Went to Kaiser’s Hollywood offices on Friday and Today for followups and now I’m seeing these plastered on streetlights around the $¢ientology HQ

“Kids can’t consent Stop Scientology”?

Should apply to all religions for chrissakes

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 12:41:48am

re: #26 Jay C

Does the beard oil make it squeak, or keep it from squeaking….?

One of these days, I’ll post a selfie which will explain my attitude about beard oils….

Hair oil used to be a thing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 12:44:58am

re: #44 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Friendly Atheist, 19:49

The GOP is still claiming the State Department is promoting atheism.

“Promoting atheism” is a code word for “maintaining religious neutrality and separation of Church and State as mandated by the Constitution by not favoring Fundamentalist Christianity”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 12:46:43am

re: #55 Joe Bacon ✅

Her license is suspended for only 3 years…she should have been disbarred for life…

Former President Donald Trump’s onetime lawyer Jenna Ellis can’t practice law for three years, according to a new report.

Should be enough to derail her legal career.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 12:47:44am

re: #61 steve_davis

Godamnit, Apple. Focus put out something like a dozen albums. Why the fuck does a search for Focus give me not a single freakin album? So now I’ve got to go old school and search for a song title so I get a bite. These guys don’t need AI. They just need somebody with a brain to straighten out the search algorithm.

they were a one-hit wonder in the USA but were big in Europe.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 29, 2024 • 12:54:00am

re: #61 steve_davis

Apple Music can be quite frustrating to find anything.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 12:57:18am

re: #143 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Why is it “Biden’s economy”??

In reality is is just the US economy, and whether something is perceived as “good” or not is the big question of the keypost.

My own suspicion is that what is at play in these survey questions has more to do with identity politics than anything else.

MAGA logic: gasoline and groceries were cheaper under DJT, so re-electing him will bring prices down

ask them how and they will explain how he will put price caps on poultry products and drill, drill, drill.

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Lancelot Link Returns!  May 29, 2024 • 1:02:02am

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Hair oil used to be a thing.

A little dab’ll do ya!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 1:02:32am

re: #156 Lancelot Link Returns!

A little dab’ll do ya!

no more greasy kid stuff!

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No Malarkey!  May 29, 2024 • 1:05:38am

re: #155 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

MAGA logic: gasoline and groceries were cheaper under DJT, so re-electing him will bring prices down

ask them how and they will explain how he will put price caps on poultry products and drill, drill, drill.

Except the US is already producing record amounts of oil.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 1:16:59am

re: #158 No Malarkey!

Except the US is already producing record amounts of oil.

don’t use logic on me!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 29, 2024 • 1:28:35am

So this is a thing at Reddit. Photographs and video of stuck WankPanzers (Cybertrucks)

reddit.com (r/CyberStuck)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 29, 2024 • 1:32:34am

Yay. I’ll bet I get none of this.

(Nebraska Examiner, May 28, 2024)

President Joe Biden has granted a major disaster declaration for early April wintry storms that impacted eight counties in the Nebraska Panhandle.

Biden on Friday approved the disaster declaration and unlocked federal assistance to help with recovery from the April 6 and April 7 storms, at Gov. Jim Pillen’s request. The thunderstorms developed into freezing rain, snow and strong straight-line winds. Damages totaled at least $10.5 million in initial reports, mainly for downed power lines and power poles.

The counties approved for assistance are: Banner, Cheyenne, Dawes, Garden, Kimball, Morrill, Scotts Bluff and Sioux.

“Some residents in the impacted areas were without electricity for up to a week,” a May 6 release from the Governor’s Office stated. “Other storm impacts included closed highways, downed trees and some damage to local buildings and equipment.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 29, 2024 • 1:49:32am

I can’t imagine why people are leaving Christianity with leaders like these. (Media Matters for America, May 28, 2024)

After being called a “prophet,” Rudy Giuliani says he feels “a great deal of responsibility as a result of it, and to try to fulfill it”

«Steve Shultz: “It’s like God’s seeing you in a higher plane than maybe you would even see yourself.”»

Audio clip and transcript at the link

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 1:50:56am

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

After being called a “prophet,” Rudy Giuliani says he feels “a great deal of responsibility as a result of it, and to try to fulfill it”

They will dedicate a place of worship to him: The Temple of the Leaking Temples!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 1:59:59am

Louisiana wants the Ten Commandments in schools but which version?

“I’m not concerned with an atheist. I’m not concerned with a Muslim,” said Louisiana State Rep. Dodie Horton (R), explaining why she sponsored a bill requiring every public school in the state — kindergarten through college — to display the Ten Commandments.

“I’m concerned with our children looking and seeing what God’s law is,” continued the Republican from Bossier Parish in the northwest corner of the state.

When George W Bush came out in support of display of the X Coms in public buildings, I remember him being confronted with the same question, to which he answered: “The standard one.”

He did not elaborate further, but I assume he meant the King James version.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 29, 2024 • 2:01:55am

42 years ago, the promise of computer storage:

1982: The Future of COMPUTER STORAGE | The Computer Programme | Retro Tech | BBC Archive


..

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 29, 2024 • 2:04:35am

So we have a problem in Nebraska.

Three abortion petitions are circulating which are at odds with each other. At least in theory, two or three could pass with a majority vote.

Under the state constitution if two amendments are at odds with each other, the one with the most votes becomes part of the constitution and the other is thrown out.

The first, by Protect Our Rights Nebraska, would enshrine abortion into the constitution up to foetal viability (twenty-four weeks).

The second, by Protect Women and Children, would prohibit abortion after the first trimester, but would allow the Unicameral to restrict it further.

The third, put forth by Now Choose Life, would grant so-called personhood to an embryo or foetus in a woman’s uterus (avoiding the problem of IVF clinics), requiring the law to treat a foetus as if it was a born child.

The first two seem to have a chance of passing based on state polling. (Out-of-state polling agencies ignore our state.) The third amendment started late but is rapidly gaining ground amongst all Christian sects in the state, so it may make the ballot.

According to the state secretary of state, after the canvassing board completes its work, Gov. Jim Pillen (R-real billionaire Catholic) would have to decide if the referenda are actually in conflict. AG Evnan (R) says it appears to him all three proposals are in hopeless conflict.

The state constitution only grants the governor ministerial powers to convey which amendments have passed. His only duty is to announce the result.

Such an issue of competing amendments has never occurred since the Unicameral and state constitution were formed in the Thirties.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 2:06:32am

re: #165 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

42 years ago, the promise of computer storage:

..

I was out shopping with my daughter ca. 1999 and we ran across some remaindered
5 1/4” floppy discs.

I told her that she could tell her grandkids about seeing such dinosaur technology, just like I remember seeing an Edsel driving about, and our generation’s children will be able to say the same about Tesla trucks.

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No Malarkey!  May 29, 2024 • 2:07:51am

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

So we have a problem in Nebraska.

Three abortion petitions are circulating which are at odds with each other. At least in theory, two or three could pass with a majority vote.

Under the state constitution if two amendments are at odds with each other, the one with the most votes becomes part of the constitution and the other is thrown out.

The first, by Protect Our Rights Nebraska, would enshrine abortion into the constitution up to foetal viability (twenty-four weeks).

The second, by Protect Women and Children, would prohibit abortion after the first trimester, but would allow the Unicameral to restrict it further.

The third, put forth by Now Choose Life, would grant so-called personhood to an embryo or foetus in a woman’s uterus (avoiding the problem of IVF clinics), requiring the law to treat a foetus as if it was a born child.

The first two seem to have a chance of passing based on state polling. (Out-of-state polling agencies ignore our state.) The third amendment started late but is rapidly gaining ground amongst all Christian sects in the state, so it may make the ballot.

According to the state secretary of state, after the canvassing board completes its work, Gov. Jim Pillen (R-real billionaire Catholic) would have to decide if the referenda are actually in conflict. AG Evnan (R) says it appears to him all three proposals are in hopeless conflict.

The state constitution only grants the governor ministerial powers to convey which amendments have passed. His only duty is to announce the result.

Such an issue of competing amendments has never occurred since the Unicameral and state constitution were formed in the Thirties.

Let’s hope the first passes in a landslide and the other two fail.

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William Lewis  May 29, 2024 • 2:15:17am

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Louisiana wants the Ten Commandments in schools but which version?

“I’m not concerned with an atheist. I’m not concerned with a Muslim,” said Louisiana State Rep. Dodie Horton (R), explaining why she sponsored a bill requiring every public school in the state — kindergarten through college — to display the Ten Commandments.

“I’m concerned with our children looking and seeing what God’s law is,” continued the Republican from Bossier Parish in the northwest corner of the state.

When George W Bush came out in support of display of the X Coms in public buildings, I remember him being confronted with the same question, to which he ansered “The standard one.”

He did not elaborate further, but I asume he meant the King James version.

Which still begs the question: “The text of the Ten Commandments appears in three different versions in the Bible:[1] at Exodus 20:2-17, Deuteronomy 5:6-21, and the “Ritual Decalogue” of Exodus 34:11-26.”The Ten Commandments which is still a question no matter the translation being used.

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Patricia Kayden  May 29, 2024 • 2:17:22am

re: #88 Nerdy Fish

because “a fine and upstanding citizen such as Donald J. Trump doesn’t deserve to be thrown in prison for a little light fraud.”

😂 😂 😂 😂

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 2:18:14am

re: #169 William Lewis

that is discussed in the article but is irrelevant to those whose concept of “religious freedom” means “the right to impose our majority religion on everyone regardless of their religion”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 29, 2024 • 2:18:35am

The advert race for NE-2 is heating up.

After the House Majority PAC (Democrats) pledged $2MM for state senator Tony Vargas’s (D) bid for NE-2, the Republican Congressional Leadership PAC (directly tied to Speaker Mike Johnson) has pledged $2.8MM for Rep. Don Bacon.

The GOP already spent a craptonne of money on Rep. Bacon’s behalf to fend of a further right challenger in the Republican Primary.

The Congressional Leadership PAC exists to defend or elect Republicans in swing districts. NE-2 is the quintessential swing district.

In recent Presidential races, it went for Obama in 2008, Romney in 2012, Trump in 2016, and Biden in 2020. Bacon defeated Democrat Brad Ashford in 2016. He called on Donald Trump to withdraw from the race after the Access Hollywood tape came out.

In 2020, he won the district against Democrat Kara Eastman, even though Biden won the same election. (Ticket-splitting is common in NE-2.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 29, 2024 • 2:27:51am

The Nebraska Chamber of Commerce hired a North Carolina firm to conduct studies and polling regarding ways to improve the number of people available for the workforce of the state. Nebraska has one of the lowest unemployment rates in the nation.

The solution: Become more welcoming of immigrants and make the state the “go-to” destination, create an “immigrant recruitment office,” and end at the federal level the uncertainty around DACA recipients (that is, extend citizenship).

They cite the ageing population and declining fertility rate of the state as a demographic bomb for business. The current unemployment rate is less than 0.5 workers for each job opening.

Legal immigrants are 7% of the state’s population now.

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Lancelot Link Returns!  May 29, 2024 • 2:41:54am

re: #61 steve_davis

Focus - In and Out of Focus (1970;1988)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 29, 2024 • 3:09:31am

Time for bed. Catch y’all later.

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Patricia Kayden  May 29, 2024 • 3:10:17am

re: #173 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Wow. That’s great. Good to see a state opening its arms to immigrants instead of treating them like vermin.

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Patricia Kayden  May 29, 2024 • 3:39:46am

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 29, 2024 • 3:54:25am

Well, that was ugly, first two lines, nothing.
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Shropshire Slasher  May 29, 2024 • 4:03:25am

Humpday got here a little quicker! A little drive time music on this gorgeous morning!

Season of the Shark

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silverdolphin  May 29, 2024 • 4:05:28am

re: #154 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Apple Music can be quite frustrating to find anything.

The problem with Focus on Apple Music is it is not definitive like the Beatles. I just searched and there 20 some odd official Apple playlists witht the word focus, a genre called Focus, a huge number of Albums called “Focus” and at least 8 groups called Focus. For me, the relevant one is the first one listed so there is that.

But without more information, Focus is not specific enough. Thus why sometimes song titles work better. Because Apple search is very primitive and does not do complex searches. So if I search for “Focus band” I only get results called “Focus Band” It is like a search program written by a 3rd grader.

By the way, if you can find Focus on Apple Music, wou will find that Focus just released a new single a couple of days ago called “Fjord Focus”. Flute and everything (no hysterical scat singing though ;-). I like it..

Fjord Focus

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silverdolphin  May 29, 2024 • 4:10:11am

Focus

I am so glad about the Apple Music search posts because I found not only the single that came out on the 24th but a DDG search revealed they have a new album coming out in July. Called Focus 12. Like so many Progressive bands, they hardly make a dent in the US but I love them so much.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 29, 2024 • 4:13:02am

re: #178 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Almost got it in 3. 4/6

Click to Reveal

I thought Nah for #3 but went for it in #4 because nothing else fit.

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Randall Gross  May 29, 2024 • 4:16:32am

re: #133 JC1

So I binge watched the new Apple TV show Sugar this weekend. It’s a noir detective story staring Colin Farrell. I really liked it. There is a twist that I did NOT see coming AT ALL, but it made sense in retrospect. I highly recommend the show and highly advise that you not read any details about it before you watch it.

I saw it coming, but my wife and I could write these scripts. We are terrible to watch shows with because we are like “oh that person did it,” (and mostly right,) five minutes into every mystery. There are a couple of clues, but they are very subtle.

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Nerdy Fish  May 29, 2024 • 4:19:15am

I’m not going to lie: There were a lot of other options. I could’ve run this one out quite a bit. But I had convinced myself of one property of the word, and kept racking my brain until I found one that fit. (Details/spoiler in spoiler.)

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I was sure - without too much evidence - that there were two A’s in the word. I just had a gut feeling the NY Times editor was being diabolical.

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Patricia Kayden  May 29, 2024 • 4:21:20am

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Patricia Kayden  May 29, 2024 • 4:24:22am

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Randall Gross  May 29, 2024 • 4:25:49am

There’s a table of the top 100 at the link

Variety with the top shows of the 23-24 season, people still scratching their heads over the cancellation of NCIS Hawaii
variety.com/2024/tv/news...

— Randall Gross (@randallgross.bsky.social) 2024-05-29T11:23:54.239Z

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Decatur Deb  May 29, 2024 • 4:32:42am

re: #181 silverdolphin

Fogies With Attitude.

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Patricia Kayden  May 29, 2024 • 4:37:26am

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 29, 2024 • 4:41:51am

A blog entry on a grave which is evidence of a past wrongdoing… is apparently being misused by the usual characters:

bsky.app

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 29, 2024 • 4:42:21am

re: #190 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

spadeandthegrave.com

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Decatur Deb  May 29, 2024 • 4:52:26am

re: #191 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

spadeandthegrave.com

Carried to excess, use of the Earth for anything other than graves will become impossible. Europe is a grave. The main cemetery in Venice rents gravespace on 12-year leases because of crowding.
en.wikipedia.org

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Eventual Carrion  May 29, 2024 • 4:54:38am

re: #178 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Well, that was ugly, first two lines, nothing.
Wordle 1,075 5/6

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4/6 here

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Patricia Kayden  May 29, 2024 • 4:55:08am

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lawhawk  May 29, 2024 • 4:58:02am

re: #93 Charles Johnson

Only way it works properly is if it’s a Red Swingline. Don’t they know this inescapable fact? /

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sagehen  May 29, 2024 • 5:01:23am

re: #183 Randall Gross

I saw it coming, but my wife and I could write these scripts. We are terrible to watch shows with because we are like “oh that person did it,” (and mostly right,) five minutes into every mystery. There are a couple of clues, but they are very subtle.

You’re the target audience for Elsbeth — it’s like Columbo in that the first four minutes shows who did the murder, and how, and why. Then the rest of the episode is devoted to “and how will they prove it? where will they find the evidence?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 5:04:28am

re: #192 Decatur Deb

Carried to excess, use of the Earth for anything other than graves will become impossible. Europe is a grave. The main cemetery in Venice rents gravespace on 12-year leases because of crowding.
en.wikipedia.org

that is a common practice all over Europe. You lease a gravesite for 30 yers, after which you are disinterred and your bones placed in an ossuary.

Our local cemetery has an option to have your ashes placed in a biodegradable urn and buried at the base of a tree.

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Dave In Austin  May 29, 2024 • 5:05:01am

Morning all.
I see Jason Miller is spewing again.

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Decatur Deb  May 29, 2024 • 5:06:34am

re: #192 Decatur Deb

Carried to excess, use of the Earth for anything other than graves will become impossible. Europe is a grave. The main cemetery in Venice rents gravespace on 12-year leases because of crowding.
en.wikipedia.org

And therein lies an SF premise: Complications on the voyage of the Cóiste Bodhar , a funerary ship carrying remains to Earth from all the far-flung colonies.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 5:07:03am

re: #186 Patricia Kayden

also, when investors pool their resouces to optimize their bargaining position, that is a “corporation” and it forms the very heart and soul of our economic system

but when employees pool their resources to optiize their bargaining position, that is a “union” and is the very anathema of our system

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Decatur Deb  May 29, 2024 • 5:11:54am

re: #197 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that is a common practice all over Europe. You lease a gravesite for 30 yers, after which you are disinterred and your bones placed in an ossuary.

Our local cemetery has an option to have your ashes placed in a biodegradable urn and buried at the base of a tree.

I imagine other European countries also have massive ossuaries, like the Italian WWI monuments, stuffed to the rafters with the arrayed bones of soldiers.

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Nojay UK  May 29, 2024 • 5:12:30am

re: #199 Decatur Deb

And therein lies an SF premise: Complications on the voyage of the Cóiste Bodhar , a funerary ship carrying remains to Earth from all the far-flung colonies.

I have a vague memory of an old SF story entitled (I think) “Cemetery Planet” which is based on Earth being one giant graveyard. Google Google &udm14 condom, ah “Cemetery World” by Clifford D. Simak.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 29, 2024 • 5:14:09am

re: #192 Decatur Deb

Carried to excess, use of the Earth for anything other than graves will become impossible.

OTOH, it’s Canada.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 29, 2024 • 5:14:34am

re: #141 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

At the rate we’re going with emissions…

And the rate the Earth is responding…

It won’t be a couple of decades before the entire global interconnected economy will fall apart because of climate change.

They’ll just be too many crises to manage.

I’m not a doomer in the sense of the grifting-doomers.

Rather, I am now in the camp of what I call the unravelers.

World events will just get too complicated for nations to successfully accomodate.

And then there will be the wars.

What if a nation such as India decides that it can only survive if it takes Solar Radiation Management (SRM) into it’s own hands, and starts to dump sulphur into the upper atmosphere to lower surface temps?

Will other countries object? And if so, will they intervene?

That’s the plotline of at least one SF novel. Though not India that that is initiating the SRM.

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Dr Lizardo  May 29, 2024 • 5:16:30am

re: #201 Decatur Deb

I imagine other European countries also have massive ossuaries, like the Italian WWI monuments, stuffed to the rafters with the arrayed bones of soldiers.

Here in Czech Republic, there’s Sedlec Ossuary, which is - quite honestly - the most metal thing ever.

en.wikipedia.org

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steve_davis  May 29, 2024 • 5:17:06am

Drops of God on apple tv is actually well done. The plot involves a wealthy wine expert dying in Japan and having his will stipulate that the sole inheritor of his house in Japan and 87,000 bottle wine collection (valued north of 150 million dollars) will be the one (of two contestants, his daughter and his Japanese protege) who manages to correctly answer questions about various wine-related tasks. Watch with English subtitles, because there is English, Japanese, French, and Italian going on, pretty constantly.

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Decatur Deb  May 29, 2024 • 5:18:18am

The Ossuary at Asiago

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lawhawk  May 29, 2024 • 5:20:18am

re: #207 Decatur Deb

Say cheese!

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Decatur Deb  May 29, 2024 • 5:24:06am

The American Military Cemetery at Lorraine, where my father is buried. Yesterday was the 80th anniversary of the loss of the Decatur Deb.

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Decatur Deb  May 29, 2024 • 5:26:44am

re: #202 Nojay UK

I have a vague memory of an old SF story entitled (I think) “Cemetery Planet” which is based on Earth being one giant graveyard. Google Google &udm14 condom, ah “Cemetery World” by Clifford D. Simak.

Probably lurking deep in my childhood.

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steve_davis  May 29, 2024 • 5:33:02am

re: #108 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

theguardian.com

lady gaga isn’t getting anyone in the crowd sick with covid. good heavens. it’s hundreds of thousands of square feet of breathable air. It would be like me worrying about getting the flu from keith richards because I was in the stadium while he was performing sick.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 29, 2024 • 5:34:55am

re: #209 Decatur Deb

The American Military Cemetery at Lorraine, where my father is buried. Yesterday was the 80th anniversary of the loss of the Decatur Deb.

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The trip to France I took part in during 2016 included walking through a number of cemeteries. UK, French, USA, and German ones from WW1. Plus the USA one just behind Omaha beach in Normandy.

Aisne-Marne Memorial Chapel
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steve_davis  May 29, 2024 • 5:38:07am

re: #121 sagehen

Hocus Pocus by Focus.

Once you’ve hit on one song, there’ll be links to other work by the band.

that’s what I had to use, only because I couldn’t remember how they spell Sylvia (I think that’s it!). Another one is Free. The only reason I get Free in search results is because I’ve searched for the albums so often that the algorithm is like “fuuuck. this guy again. All right.”

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steve_davis  May 29, 2024 • 5:39:40am

re: #128 jeffreyw

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I’m looking at that thinking, “I’m betting this is made somewhere where transfats are still legal….”

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Eventual Carrion  May 29, 2024 • 5:44:11am

Perfect! Connections

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Randall Gross  May 29, 2024 • 5:49:14am

re: #196 sagehen

You’re the target audience for Elsbeth — it’s like Columbo in that the first four minutes shows who did the murder, and how, and why. Then the rest of the episode is devoted to “and how will they prove it? where will they find the evidence?”

Yep, we love that show, sometimes it’s a Howcatchem in “Howdoneit” form & sometimes it’s “Whydoneit” form. It’s better than the average mystery.

Right now our top shows for mystery / procedurals are:

Tracker (books also good, from Jeffrey Deaver who wrote “The Bone Collector)
Will Trent (the books are also pretty good, lots of “grey” characters in them)
The Rookie - this one based on quality of the writing and the ensemble cast
Elsbeth

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jeffreyw  May 29, 2024 • 5:50:49am

Pork Lo Mein

Good morning!

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steve_davis  May 29, 2024 • 5:53:49am

re: #160 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

So this is a thing at Reddit. Photographs and video of stuck WankPanzers (Cybertrucks)

reddit.com (r/CyberStuck)

meanwhile, my mazda 3 is like, “could you change my oil? if not, no problem. I’m good for another couple hundred thousand miles.”

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steve_davis  May 29, 2024 • 5:56:14am

re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They will dedicate a place of worship to him: The Temple of the Leaking Temples!!!

The Four Seasons Temple of Landscaping

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steve_davis  May 29, 2024 • 6:01:21am

re: #174 Lancelot Link Returns!

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that’s the one I settled on! I’ve heard Moving Waves a lot, but the first album has some nice rawness to it.

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 6:16:47am

re: #160 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

So this is a thing at Reddit. Photographs and video of stuck WankPanzers (Cybertrucks)

reddit.com (r/CyberStuck)

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Teukka  May 29, 2024 • 6:19:57am

re: #160 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

So this is a thing at Reddit. Photographs and video of stuck WankPanzers (Cybertrucks)

reddit.com (r/CyberStuck)

WankPanzer™… Imma steal that…

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 6:24:59am

re: #187 Randall Gross

There’s a table of the top 100 at the link

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We watched zero of these shows

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Dave In Austin  May 29, 2024 • 6:28:32am

Phelan won.

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A Cranky One  May 29, 2024 • 6:31:01am

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jeffreyw  May 29, 2024 • 6:31:07am

#wildlife #nature #garden #caterpillars
A short caterpillar story

— (@jeffreyw.bsky.social) 2024-05-29T13:27:48.509Z

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darthstar  May 29, 2024 • 6:43:13am

GT Conway Threads post - here’s the image from it

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Dr Lizardo  May 29, 2024 • 6:43:51am

Even watching this trailer, I still have no idea what this film is about, but I’ll probably still see it because it’s piqued my curiosity…..

KINDS OF KINDNESS | Official Trailer | Searchlight UK

And if/when Megalopolis opens here in Czech Republic - yeah, I’ll go see that, too.

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Nerdy Fish  May 29, 2024 • 6:46:45am

re: #227 darthstar

GT Conway Threads post - here’s the image from it

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Loose Cannon completely annihilates Hanlon’s Razor, because both her maliciousness and her stupidity are so evident that it’s impossible to tell whether one of her bad decisions is the result of one, the other, or both.

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darthstar  May 29, 2024 • 6:47:39am

So I guess things didn’t go so well for Trump yesterday…

Mastodon

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darthstar  May 29, 2024 • 6:48:45am

re: #229 Nerdy Fish

Loose Cannon completely annihilates Hanlon’s Razor, because both her maliciousness and her stupidity are so evident that it’s impossible to tell whether one of her bad decisions is the result of one, the other, or both.

Her disregard for Supreme Court precedence is rather tellling.

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Dr Lizardo  May 29, 2024 • 6:50:48am

re: #230 darthstar

So I guess things didn’t go so well for Trump yesterday…

Maybe one of his confidantes with some legal knowledge (I’m looking at you, Dershowitz) explained to him that he’s fucked six ways from Sunday.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 29, 2024 • 6:53:38am

Trump Boasted About Sex With Stormy in Tahoe, Athlete Says

Donald Trump boasted about having sex with adult film star Stormy Daniels at the 2006 golf tournament where the two met, a celebrity athlete who played the tournament has said.

The athlete also told The Daily Beast that a decade later, in the run-up to the 2016 election, he received anonymous calls from strangers asking what he remembered of the weekend.

“It was clear to me and everyone who heard him that he was talking about Stormy,” the athlete said, adding that Trump encouraged other celebs to try to have sex with Daniels, behavior the athlete described as “crass,” “gross,” and “stupid.”

“He’d say all these things like, ‘You’ve gotta bang a porn star, it’s incredible,’ and, ‘It added 20 yards to my drive today,’” the athlete told The Daily Beast.

thedailybeast.com

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darthstar  May 29, 2024 • 6:54:13am

re: #232 Dr Lizardo

Maybe one of his confidantes with some legal knowledge (I’m looking at you, Dershowitz) explained to him that he’s fucked six ways from Sunday.

He had several months to try to make the advice of counsel defense choice, but couldn’t convince his counsel to use it.

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A Cranky One  May 29, 2024 • 7:02:18am

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lawhawk  May 29, 2024 • 7:05:28am

re: #230 darthstar

This know nothing lunatic is going to be found guilty on all counts, and he will complain that he didn’t get to rebut the closing argument, despite the fact that this is how every single criminal case operates. If he wanted to rebut the evidence, he could have testified, but didn’t. That was his legal team’s choice (the right and only correct one, I might add). He had no evidence to rebut the claims by prosecutors, and they summed up their case adequately to show beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump committed these felonies.

Trump knows all of this and is desperate to claim that this was a rigged case and rigged jury, even though he and his legal team got to do voir dire, and excluded jurors unfavorable to Trump.

Trump and the GOP want to undermine the rule of law and the criminal justice process, all while projecting their own intentions to wreck the rule of law and conspiring to go after political enemies on those seeking to hold Trump accountable for his crime spree.

Fox and right wing echo chamber are fully leaning into this, and they have nothing but their own BS to support their claims. It will come as a shock to GOPers as Trump gets found guilty, and that those convictions will be sustained by the appellate courts in NYS. They will rail against NY and claim that it will wreck the state and the nation, with no evidence of same.

Trump engaged in a crime spree, and putting him behind bars would be the bare minimum.

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 7:06:00am

re: #231 darthstar

Her disregard lack of knowledge for Supreme Court precedence is rather tellling.

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Targetpractice  May 29, 2024 • 7:07:25am

re: #230 darthstar

So I guess things didn’t go so well for Trump yesterday…

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Trump’s own lawyers told Judge Merchan they would not seek an “advice of counsel” defense because…wait for it…they’d have to prove that Trump had actually put forward his plans to his lawyers, they signed off on such, and then he kept to those plans rather than changing them up as suited him. Instead, the lawyers asked Merchan to sign off on what he termed a “presence of counsel” defense which effectively said a lawyer being in the room was enough to prove the scheme was legal because if it wasn’t then lawyer was at fault for not speaking up. So yes, once again, Trump is bitching about not being able to do something his lawyers said he wouldn’t do.

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Jay C  May 29, 2024 • 7:08:16am

re: #232 Dr Lizardo

Maybe one of his confidantes with some legal knowledge (I’m looking at you, Dershowitz) explained to him that he’s fucked six ways from Sunday.

Like any “explanation” is going to affect Donald Fucking Trump in the slightest? He’s spent his entire career/life using lawyers as mere employees*, and the legal system mainly as a means of harassing opponents, and/or obfuscating his illegal/unethical activities. He’s unlikely to change now.

*And Trump’s incurable insistence that he is always the smartest guy in the room isn’t helpful.

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darthstar  May 29, 2024 • 7:09:58am

re: #239 Jay C

*And Trump’s incurable insistence that he is always the smartest guy in the room isn’t helpful.

Put him in a cell by himself and it might actually be a factual statement.

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darthstar  May 29, 2024 • 7:14:50am

Jury instruction time…Trump’s going to be sharting himself as the seriousness of his situation sinks in.

Mastodon

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Dr Lizardo  May 29, 2024 • 7:17:49am

re: #241 darthstar

Jury instruction time…Trump’s going to be sharting himself as the seriousness of his situation sinks in.

I fully expect an all-caps Trump rant is imminent.

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Unabogie  May 29, 2024 • 7:18:06am

re: #228 Dr Lizardo

Even watching this trailer, I still have no idea what this film is about, but I’ll probably still see it because it’s piqued my curiosity…..

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Video

And if/when Megalopolis opens here in Czech Republic - yeah, I’ll go see that, too.

Yorgos and Emma Stone really have a great artistic thing going. Poor Things was my favorite movie of last year.

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JC1  May 29, 2024 • 7:20:26am

re: #183 Randall Gross

I saw it coming, but my wife and I could write these scripts. We are terrible to watch shows with because we are like “oh that person did it,” (and mostly right,) five minutes into every mystery. There are a couple of clues, but they are very subtle.

Click to Reveal

There were clues that something was going on, I just didn’t see that. Like, it wouldn’t have been a top 5 guess.

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Targetpractice  May 29, 2024 • 7:22:34am

re: #241 darthstar

Jury instruction time…Trump’s going to be sharting himself as the seriousness of his situation sinks in.

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Guess we’ll see if Ronny Jackson’s assessment of his health holds up under the stress.

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lawhawk  May 29, 2024 • 7:24:33am

And here comes the jury instructions, including how to address redactions - they are to be ignored in deliberations, no speculation about sentencing as that resides with Merchan, and various limiting instructions on how evidence can be included in the discussion of the case.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 29, 2024 • 7:27:12am

re: #183 Randall Gross

I saw it coming, but my wife and I could write these scripts. We are terrible to watch shows with because we are like “oh that person did it,” (and mostly right,) five minutes into every mystery. There are a couple of clues, but they are very subtle.

I realized a while ago that the perpetrator on cop shows is almost always the guest actor that I recognize from other shows.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 29, 2024 • 7:27:42am

Former cop/marine/American responsible for a bunch of Russian disinfo websites. And I’ve even seen MAGA idiots cite some of them. Shit’s gonna get wilder and wilder.

nbcnews.com

The websites, with names like DC Weekly, New York News Daily and Boston Times, look similar to those of legitimate local news outlets and have already succeeded in spreading a number of false stories surrounding the war in Ukraine. Experts warn they could be used to launder disinformation about the 2024 election.

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Targetpractice  May 29, 2024 • 7:29:42am

MAGAt media: “Trump’s gonna walk on an acquittal. The prosecution totally fucked up this case! Biden is gonna look so stupid!”

Trump: “HOLY FUCK, I COULD GO TO PRISON!!!”

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Unabogie  May 29, 2024 • 7:30:19am

re: #236 lawhawk

This know nothing lunatic is going to be found guilty on all counts, and he will complain that he didn’t get to rebut the closing argument, despite the fact that this is how every single criminal case operates. If he wanted to rebut the evidence, he could have testified, but didn’t. That was his legal team’s choice (the right and only correct one, I might add). He had no evidence to rebut the claims by prosecutors, and they summed up their case adequately to show beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump committed these felonies.

Trump knows all of this and is desperate to claim that this was a rigged case and rigged jury, even though he and his legal team got to do voir dire, and excluded jurors unfavorable to Trump.

Trump and the GOP want to undermine the rule of law and the criminal justice process, all while projecting their own intentions to wreck the rule of law and conspiring to go after political enemies on those seeking to hold Trump accountable for his crime spree.

Fox and right wing echo chamber are fully leaning into this, and they have nothing but their own BS to support their claims. It will come as a shock to GOPers as Trump gets found guilty, and that those convictions will be sustained by the appellate courts in NYS. They will rail against NY and claim that it will wreck the state and the nation, with no evidence of same.

Trump engaged in a crime spree, and putting him behind bars would be the bare minimum.

Serious question: are you feeling confident? I’m 100% sure that Trump did this because there’s no freaking way you “gross up” a bill for legal fees. That’s absurd. And Trump paid the money out of his own company and got the NDA. He made multiple comments on Xitter that he thought of it as a reimbursement for the payoff. All of this is just plain as day.

But will a jury convict him for it?

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Decatur Deb  May 29, 2024 • 7:30:42am

re: #249 Targetpractice

…
Trump: “HOLY FUCK, I COULD GO TO PRISON!!!”

Far better men have.

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 7:32:30am

re: #247 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

I realized a while ago that the perpetrator on cop shows is almost always the guest actor that I recognize from other shows.

which is the opposite of the star of the show can’t die, he’s got to be on next week

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 7:33:20am

re: #248 GlutenFreeJesus

Former cop/marine/American responsible for a bunch of Russian disinfo websites. And I’ve even sen MAGA idiots cite some of them. Shit’s gonna get wilder and wilder.

nbcnews.com

one quibble
they’re not ‘laundering’ the news

they are the megaphone

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Targetpractice  May 29, 2024 • 7:38:47am

re: #250 Unabogie

Serious question: are you feeling confident? I’m 100% sure that Trump did this because there’s no freaking way you “gross up” a bill for legal bills. That’s absurd. And Trump paid the money out of his own company and got the NDA. He made multiple comments on Xitter that he thought of it as a reimbursement for the payoff. All of this is just plain as day.

But will a jury convict him for it?

The cynic that I am says that the odds of his being convicted are higher if the prosecution or defense requested Merchan allow the jury to convict him on the charges as misdemeanors. If they can only convict on felonies, then I figure the odds of conviction are still higher than acquittal, but the odds are lower that he’s convicted on all counts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 7:47:25am

re: #217 jeffreyw

Is that the Tomb of the Unknown Fry Cook?

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Hecuba's daughter  May 29, 2024 • 7:49:15am

re: #178 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Well, that was ugly, first two lines, nothing.
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GlutenFreeJesus  May 29, 2024 • 7:50:04am

Whatever the jury decides, if he’s guilty of anything, he will remain free while he keeps appealing anyway. This fucker always seems to avoid consequences, where other people are disappeared for a hell of a lot less.

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Decatur Deb  May 29, 2024 • 7:52:52am

re: #257 GlutenFreeJesus

That’s the point of being a billionaire.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 7:56:49am

re: #223 Dangerman

We watched zero of these shows

I have never watched a single whole episode of any of the following shows

Seinfeld
Friends
Cheers
Golden Girls
Anything CIS
X Files
Baywatch
Any casting show
Any dancing show
Any cooking show
Babylon 5

For that, I did not own a TV for much of the 80’s, after that I was living abroad and not about to watch shows dubbed. I did break down and buy a TV set to cover breaking event in October of 1989 because things were happening to fast to wait for the newspapers.

I did even watch an episode of Sex and the City out of cultural masochism and I recall watching an episode of Frazier which I found very funny but never watched any more.

My ex-GF and I watched the first two episodes of Game of Thrones but did not continue, but she did get me to watch most of The Office and several seasons of Walking Dead and Orange is the New Black.

Another GF got me into Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, the latter of which I liked even better, which is saying a lot.

On another note, my daughter and I just started the fifth season of Star Trek: Discovery which I find entirely enjoyable.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 29, 2024 • 7:57:25am

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

those planes did as much to win WW2 as any bomber or fighter plane

A lot cheaper too. I’ve studied aircraft costs pretty extensively. Considering just the 4 engine bombers, the 20,000 B-24s, 12,500 B-17s, 4000 B-29s, and 115 B-32s cost an aggregate total of about 15 billion 1940s dollars. The 10,500 C-47s cost about 2.3 billion. This is not to mention the decades of post-war military and civilian service they have provided, service which continues right up to the present day. (all figures approximate but I’ll bet they’re pretty close).

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Nerdy Fish  May 29, 2024 • 8:00:26am

re: #260 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

The B-29, by itself, cost 50% more to develop than the atomic freaking bomb.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 8:00:53am

re: #241 darthstar

Then, Justice Merchan will explain the 34 charges of falsifying business records. It will be the most important guidance that he gives during this #TrumpTrial.

Then he will take them quietly aside in his secret Star Chamber room and remind them that if they do not convict Trump, then the Deep State will come after them and their families and they will come to know the true meaning of “living hell”.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 29, 2024 • 8:01:24am

re: #231 darthstar

Her disregard for Supreme Court precedence is rather tellling.

SCOTUS disregard for precedence is telling. She’s a female Alito.

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gwangung  May 29, 2024 • 8:01:42am

re: #259 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

On another note, my daughter and I just started the fifth season of Star Trek: Discovery which I find entirely enjoyable.

Met one of the executive producers of the show at a theatre conference over the weekend. Totally delightful guy (well, he did buy me dinner). He had some very interesting insights on the proceedings (and dropped a hint about being delighted about casting for the upcoming Trek series).

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 29, 2024 • 8:02:10am

re: #261 Nerdy Fish

The B-29, by itself, cost 50% more to develop than the atomic freaking bomb.

And they were obsolete within 10 years. The others disappeared from service almost immediately after the war.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 8:04:09am

re: #261 Nerdy Fish

The B-29, by itself, cost 50% more to develop than the atomic freaking bomb.

And it was so bad at doing it was designed for that they had to change its mission to get any use out of it.

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Decatur Deb  May 29, 2024 • 8:06:01am

re: #265 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

And they were obsolete within 10 years. The others disappeared from service almost immediately after the war.

I’ve crawled through the one on Yeouido, in the Han river, and seen one in the weeds in the boneyard at Aberdeen Proving Grounds. They’re smaller than my childhood imaginings.

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jeffreyw  May 29, 2024 • 8:06:39am

re: #255 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Is that the Tomb of the Unknown Fry Cook?

No, not onsite.
Nearby

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lawhawk  May 29, 2024 • 8:10:22am

re: #250 Unabogie

Yes, I think a jury will find him guilty on all charges. Prosecutors were able to connect the dots via documentation provided out of Trump’s own papers, emails, and witnesses from within the Trump org. That’s even before we get to Michael Cohen.

Trump could have been offered the chances of being convicted on the lesser included as an alternative, but that would have guaranteed Trump being found guilty of crimes, and there’s no way Trump would have gone for that. So, instead of getting a chance at a lesser crime, Trump’s going to be found guilty on the felony counts instead. Instead of taking a plea deal, he’ll end up going to jail (and I do think he’s going to jail). He and the GOP are going to be in for a rude awakening this week about their emperor having no clothes. There will be no rioting in the streets to protest Trump’s incarceration. There will be no rioting about the verdict. It will be justice done (delayed, mind you, but done).

At every opportunity to avoid consequences for crimes, he doubled down thinking he was above the law, and this will play out to his detriment. They could expedite the appeals, but the courts will uphold his verdicts. There was no material issue of fact or law that undermines the outcome here.

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Nerdy Fish  May 29, 2024 • 8:11:22am

re: #266 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And it was so bad at doing it was designed for that they had to change its mission to get any use out of it.

A lot of that lies with the fact that they were pushing the boundaries of what piston engines could do. The Wright R-3350 Duplex Cyclone was extremely complex, and was pushed into production to get the ungainly beasts into the air. After the war, its refined versions became reasonably reliable engines for large commercial airliners, before the advent of the Boeing and Douglas jet liners.

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Decatur Deb  May 29, 2024 • 8:13:57am

re: #266 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And it was so bad at doing it was designed for that they had to change its mission to get any use out of it.

But two of them shortened the war by about a year, and a couple million casualties.

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 8:16:04am

re: #258 Decatur Deb

That’s the point of being a [supposed] billionaire.

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Targetpractice  May 29, 2024 • 8:16:41am

re: #270 Nerdy Fish

A lot of that lies with the fact that they were pushing the boundaries of what piston engines could do. The Wright R-3350 Duplex Cyclone was extremely complex, and was pushed into production to get the ungainly beasts into the air. After the war, its refined versions became reasonably reliable engines for large commercial airliners, before the advent of the Boeing and Douglas jet liners.

Extremely complex which meant cooling the monsters was a chore to begin with before counting in the tight spacing in the B-29’s cowling, which only became worse when they were operated at maximum load in the humid AF South Pacific summer months. Wright used magnesium to save weight in the design, but the trade-off was when the damned things caught fire (which they did a lot), they burned so hot that they melted through the wing spars in less than a minute.

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darthstar  May 29, 2024 • 8:16:55am

Mastodon

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lawhawk  May 29, 2024 • 8:17:50am

In other legal news, superseding indictment issued against George Santos (remember that fraud?), and a September trial date. The superseding indictment makes only minor technical changes.

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Unabogie  May 29, 2024 • 8:18:04am

re: #269 lawhawk

I hope you’re right. I’m following a live blog of the jury instructions, and it’s clear as day that the records were falsified. It’s clear as day that the purpose was to keep Daniels quiet (as well as the other payments to McDougal and the doorman) and that David Pecker was breaking the law using his fake “newspaper.”

It pisses me off that Pecker put deliberate lies at the checkout counters of every grocery store in America. It pisses me off that he got a deal to avoid prosecution for that. It pisses me off that all of this fraud was ignored by the press and resulted in hacks like Aileen Cannon being in a position to protect Trump in Florida.

Basically, a whole lot of people helped harm America and most of them are getting away with it. I hope Trump isn’t one of them.

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 8:18:52am

re: #261 Nerdy Fish

The B-29, by itself, cost 50% more to develop than the atomic freaking bomb.

the bomb didnt have to land safely over and over

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 29, 2024 • 8:19:32am

So what’s the over / under on how long the deliberations last?

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lawhawk  May 29, 2024 • 8:20:17am

re: #276 Unabogie

Pecker got a deal to avoid prosecution and prosecutors got his testimony against Trump. You always see lower rung guys turn evidence against the higher guys. You never see the deals going the other way. While it would have benefited everyone to watch Pecker go down for his role in the conspiracy, getting his testimony and cooperation was more useful to prosecutors.

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lawhawk  May 29, 2024 • 8:20:45am

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m gonna say 3.1 hours - figure about 10 minutes per charge.

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Targetpractice  May 29, 2024 • 8:21:00am

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

So what’s the over / under on how long the deliberations last?

I figure if there’s a verdict before end of business today, then Trump’s well and truly fucked.

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Nerdy Fish  May 29, 2024 • 8:21:06am

re: #273 Targetpractice

Extremely complex which meant cooling the monsters was a chore to begin with before you counting in the tight spacing in the B-29’s cowling, which only became worse when they were operated at maximum load in the humid AF South Pacific summer months. Wright used magnesium to save weight in the design, but the trade-off was when the damned things caught fire (which they did a lot), they burned so hot that they melted through the wing spars in less than a minute.

They’d eat an exhaust valve, the cylinder head temperature would increase due to raw fuel being dumped into the hot exhaust stream, the limited airflow wouldn’t be able to cool the hot head fast enough, it’d catch fire and that would be all she wrote.

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Decatur Deb  May 29, 2024 • 8:21:25am

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

So what’s the over / under on how long the deliberations last?

It’s over by Friday noon.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 8:22:20am

re: #283 Decatur Deb

It’s over by Friday noon.

would be good to wrap it up so DJT has all weekend to vent and post and post and post

ALL CAPS WILL NOT BE CAP ENOUGH: HE WILL NEED LETTERS OF FLAME!!!

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 8:23:26am

re: #269 lawhawk

Yes, I think a jury will find him guilty on all charges. Prosecutors were able to connect the dots via documentation provided out of Trump’s own papers, emails, and witnesses from within the Trump org. That’s even before we get to Michael Cohen.

Trump could have been offered the chances of being convicted on the lesser included as an alternative, but that would have guaranteed Trump being found guilty of crimes, and there’s no way Trump would have gone for that. So, instead of getting a chance at a lesser crime, Trump’s going to be found guilty on the felony counts instead. Instead of taking a plea deal, he’ll end up going to jail (and I do think he’s going to jail). He and the GOP are going to be in for a rude awakening this week about their emperor having no clothes. There will be no rioting in the streets to protest Trump’s incarceration. There will be no rioting about the verdict. It will be justice done (delayed, mind you, but done).

At every opportunity to avoid consequences for crimes, he doubled down thinking he was above the law, and this will play out to his detriment. They could expedite the appeals, but the courts will uphold his verdicts. There was no material issue of fact or law that undermines the outcome here.

would that it were….
then +1

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Dr Lizardo  May 29, 2024 • 8:27:22am

re: #269 lawhawk

If Trump were to end up incarcerated, the GOP would find itself in a uniquely unenviable position. Namely, trying to explain to the American voter why they should entrust the Oval Office to a jailbird.

Hilarity ensues!

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Hecuba's daughter  May 29, 2024 • 8:28:59am

re: #276 Unabogie

I hope you’re right. I’m following a live blog of the jury instructions, and it’s clear as day that the records were falsified. It’s clear as day that the purpose was to keep Daniels quiet (as well as the other payments to McDougal and the doorman) and that David Pecker was breaking the law using his fake “newspaper.”

It pisses me off that Pecker put deliberate lies at the checkout counters of every grocery store in America. It pisses me off that he got a deal to avoid prosecution for that. It pisses me off that all of this fraud was ignored by the press and resulted in hacks like Aileen Cannon being in a position to protect Trump in Florida.

Basically, a whole lot of people helped harm America and most of them are getting away with it. I hope Trump isn’t one of them.

TBF, his publication and other similar tabloids have been doing that since their inception and everyone knew that; they were notorious for publishing the most outrageous stories (as mocked in 1997 MIB). In this case though, the issue was they weren’t publishing true stories rather than deliberately publishing false ones.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 8:29:31am

re: #286 Dr Lizardo

If Trump were to end up incarcerated, the GOP would find itself in a uniquely unenviable position. Namely, trying to explain to the American voter why they should entrust the Oval Office to a jailbird.

Hilarity ensues!

They will have to take up his narrative about the vengeful, malicious Deep State and its pernicious attempt to avert a sure defeat at the polls by convicting their leader on contrived charges in a kangaroo court.

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Dr Lizardo  May 29, 2024 • 8:30:30am

re: #288 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They will have to take up his narrative about the vengeful, malicious Deep State and its pernicious attempt to avert a sure defeat at the polls by convicting their leader on contrived charges in a kangaroo court.

Oh, I’m sure they’ll try that. That being said, I doubt such a narrative will be an easy sell.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 29, 2024 • 8:31:08am

re: #286 Dr Lizardo

They will probably say something like fake charges or sham trial.

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Patricia Kayden  May 29, 2024 • 8:31:47am

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teleskiguy  May 29, 2024 • 8:33:50am

This is the face of a man who has lost a lot of sleep recently. He's a nervous fucking wreck. Good.

— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness The Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy.bsky.social) 2024-05-29T15:33:16.749Z

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 8:35:28am

re: #276 Unabogie

I hope you’re right. I’m following a live blog of the jury instructions, and it’s clear as day that the records were falsified. It’s clear as day that the purpose was to keep Daniels quiet (as well as the other payments to McDougal and the doorman) and that David Pecker was breaking the law using his fake “newspaper.”

It pisses me off that Pecker put deliberate lies at the checkout counters of every grocery store in America. It pisses me off that he got a deal to avoid prosecution for that. It pisses me off that all of this fraud was ignored by the press and resulted in hacks like Aileen Cannon being in a position to protect Trump in Florida.

Basically, a whole lot of people helped harm America and most of them are getting away with it. I hope Trump isn’t one of them.

of course you know they dont see it that way

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A Cranky One  May 29, 2024 • 8:36:34am

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Targetpractice  May 29, 2024 • 8:36:39am

re: #291 Patricia Kayden

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“Feel good tragedies.” That’s what our media is so littered with today, stories that should be repulsive in a “free” and “civilized” nation but which are instead sold to us as something to cheer because our nation’s so fucked.

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Targetpractice  May 29, 2024 • 8:37:35am

re: #292 teleskiguy

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My, he looks so confident that he’s gonna walk away in a few hours a free man, doesn’t he?

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 8:38:36am

re: #283 Decatur Deb

It’s over by Friday noon.

yup
lunch is involved

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A Cranky One  May 29, 2024 • 8:39:58am

The hills are alive, with the sound of …

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 8:40:11am

re: #286 Dr Lizardo

If Trump were to end up incarcerated, the GOP would find itself in a uniquely unenviable position. Namely, trying to explain to the American voter why they should entrust the Oval Office to a jailbird.

Hilarity ensues!

it’s sort of interesting in that merely “convicted felon” might not be enough

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Decatur Deb  May 29, 2024 • 8:40:37am

re: #297 Dangerman

yup
lunch is involved

And getting off Manhattan for the weekend.

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silverdolphin  May 29, 2024 • 8:41:06am

re: #202 Nojay UK

I have a vague memory of an old SF story entitled (I think) “Cemetery Planet” which is based on Earth being one giant graveyard. Google Google &udm14 condom, ah “Cemetery World” by Clifford D. Simak.

Simak is one of my favorites but he never seemed to stick with younger generations. The grittiness of PK Dick seemed to fit better than the pastoral Simak.

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Dr Lizardo  May 29, 2024 • 8:43:32am

re: #299 Dangerman

it’s sort of interesting in that merely “convicted felon” might not be enough

It should be enough. But Trump’s personality cult has infected and warped the minds of tens of millions, and here we are.

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Dave In Austin  May 29, 2024 • 8:44:08am

Fat Donny Speaks…

“It’s all RIGGED”! The Judge is conflicted and Corrupt!”

He’s currently violating his gag order as much as he can.

He also looks VERY resigned…..

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Dr Lizardo  May 29, 2024 • 8:44:09am

Back later - off to do some stuff.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 29, 2024 • 8:44:54am

re: #298 A Cranky One

The Sound of Music was a pretty good movie. I do not think Godzilla would help it.

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Nerdy Fish  May 29, 2024 • 8:45:50am

re: #299 Dangerman

it’s sort of interesting in that merely “convicted felon” might not be enough

I mean, it shouldn’t have even gotten to this point in the first place. In a properly functioning world, the Senate would’ve convicted him, removed him from office, and stripped him of his ability to run again - if not over the Ukraine phone call shenanigans, then certainly over his role in 1/6.

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Romantic Heretic  May 29, 2024 • 8:47:04am

re: #259 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I’m sure some one has already said this but if you’ve missed Babylon 5 you’ve missed a treat. I still watch the whole thing every few years and it never gets old.

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 8:50:21am

re: #302 Dr Lizardo

It should be enough. But Trump’s personality cult has infected and warped the minds of tens of millions, and here we are.

ffs, the indictments should have been enough

the relentless reporting, the AH tape, any one of it should have been enough

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 8:51:20am

re: #295 Targetpractice

“Feel good tragedies.” That’s what our media is so littered with today, stories that should be repulsive in a “free” and “civilized” nation but which are instead sold to us as something to cheer because our nation’s so fucked.

Like raising money for a child’s cancer treatment…that’s not inspiring it’s just tragic.

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 8:51:21am

re: #303 Dave In Austin

Fat Donny Speaks…

“It’s all RIGGED”! The Judge is conflicted and Corrupt!”

He’s currently violating his gag order as much as he can.

He also looks VERY resigned…..

judge seems sober and deliberative enough
not conflicted at all

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 8:52:08am

re: #305 PhillyPretzel ✅

The Sound of Music was a pretty good movie. I do not think Godzilla would help it.

Needs Mothra to really break out.

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No Malarkey!  May 29, 2024 • 8:52:32am

re: #299 Dangerman

it’s sort of interesting in that merely “convicted felon” might not be enough

I think it will be; I have to believe that there are enough voters with sense enough not to vote for a convicted felon that Trump will fall short. I want to believe that even if he’s acquitted there will be enough voters with the sense to keep him out of the White House.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 8:52:39am

re: #307 Romantic Heretic

I’m sure some one has already said this but if you’ve missed Babylon 5 you’ve missed a treat. I still watch the whole thing every few years and it never gets old.

So I hear, just never watched it and it is not on any of the streaming services I have access to.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 29, 2024 • 8:52:42am

re: #291 Patricia Kayden

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 8:53:05am

re: #305 PhillyPretzel ✅

The Sound of Music was a pretty good movie. I do not think Godzilla would help it.

Godzilla was a pretty good movie. I do not think Maria would help it.

//

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 8:54:38am

re: #306 Nerdy Fish

I mean, it shouldn’t have even gotten to this point in the first place. In a properly functioning world, the Senate would’ve convicted him, removed him from office, and stripped him of his ability to run again - if not over the Ukraine phone call shenanigans, then certainly over his role in 1/6.

oh yeah.
i forgot about the two impeachments

like i said though, the news when he was first running would have sunk anybody else

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A Cranky One  May 29, 2024 • 8:55:09am

re: #305 PhillyPretzel ✅

The Sound of Music was a pretty good movie. I do not think Godzilla would help it.

Oh, I don’t know. Having Godzilla stomp some Nazi’s might have improved the ending. ;-)

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lawhawk  May 29, 2024 • 8:55:28am

Trump knows he is *fucked*:

TRUMP sounds apprehensive as the case goes to the jury — and tries to set expectations.

“Mother Theresa could not beat those charges. But we’ll see,” Trump says.

He knows he is going to be found guilty. For all of his earlier bravado, it’s starting to sink in that he is going to be found guilty by a jury of his peers.

Let that sink in.

Trump knows he’s going to be found guilty. This isn’t a rigged jury. This isn’t a rigged trial. He had a legal team question evidence and voir dire of jurors. He got the same opportunity to mount a defense as any other defendant.

He’s about to find out that the fucking criminal conduct has consequences.

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wrenchwench  May 29, 2024 • 8:58:04am

I’ve seen Babylon 5, but not The Sound of Music.

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 9:00:16am

re: #320 wrenchwench

I’ve seen Babylon 5, but not The Sound of Music.

more or less the same, but with a guitar //

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Targetpractice  May 29, 2024 • 9:01:47am

re: #319 lawhawk

Trump knows he is *fucked*:

He knows he is going to be found guilty. For all of his earlier bravado, it’s starting to sink in that he is going to be found guilty by a jury of his peers.

Let that sink in.

Trump knows he’s going to be found guilty. This isn’t a rigged jury. This isn’t a rigged trial. He had a legal team question evidence and voir dire of jurors. He got the same opportunity to mount a defense as any other defendant.

He’s about to find out that the fucking criminal conduct has consequences.

MAGAt media’s been polishing his balls for weeks, telling him he’s gonna walk out a free man, that the whole thing’s gonna blow up in Dem faces, that Biden’s poll numbers will utterly tank when Trump is triumphant. Meanwhile, their God-Emperor is shitting bricks and doing so in such a public fashion that it couldn’t be clearer that he knows he’s fucked.

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lawhawk  May 29, 2024 • 9:04:42am

re: #322 Targetpractice

The comparison to mob prosecutions is pretty stark. John Gotti and his ilk would walk into the trial confident and exude/ooze that confidence every time they were in public.

They were confident right up to the moment the sentence was handed down.

Trump, OTOH, is showing that he knows he’s going to get convicted on the charges, and that it’s all going to come crashing down.

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steve_davis  May 29, 2024 • 9:07:57am

re: #274 darthstar

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Milo is just practicing for the swimsuit issue. In his case, the birthday swimsuit issue.

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Targetpractice  May 29, 2024 • 9:08:56am

re: #323 lawhawk

The comparison to mob prosecutions is pretty stark. John Gotti and his ilk would walk into the trial confident and exude/ooze that confidence every time they were in public.

They were confident right up to the moment the sentence was handed down.

Trump, OTOH, is showing that he knows he’s going to get convicted on the charges, and that it’s all going to come crashing down.

One could make a comparison to Gotti’s last trial, particularly after the prosecution played the tapes of him and his lieutenants boasting about their crimes and especially after Gravano took the stand. In past trials he was a smug snake through and through because he knew he had control of either the court, the witnesses, or both. But that last trial, when he had no confidence in his control over events, that’s when he started to sweat out in the open.

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dat_said  May 29, 2024 • 9:10:30am

re: #291 Patricia Kayden

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And a reminder that there are places where it isn’t that way (Fox40 News Sacramento):

The states giving completely free lunches during the academic year include Minnesota, New Mexico, Colorado, Vermont, Michigan, Massachusetts, California and Maine.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 29, 2024 • 9:14:28am

The burning question! Will the jurors ask for lunch delivery from Katz’s, Mendy’s, Junior’s or Pastrami Queen?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 29, 2024 • 9:14:37am

re: #306 Nerdy Fish

I mean, it shouldn’t have even gotten to this point in the first place. In a properly functioning world, the Senate would’ve convicted him, removed him from office, and stripped him of his ability to run again - if not over the Ukraine phone call shenanigans, then certainly over his role in 1/6.

In a properly functioning world the GOP would never have nominated him. His campaign would have been the media circus to gain attention for books and grift as many surmised it might have been intended for from the get-go.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 29, 2024 • 9:18:01am

re: #323 lawhawk

The comparison to mob prosecutions is pretty stark. John Gotti and his ilk would walk into the trial confident and exude/ooze that confidence every time they were in public.

They were confident right up to the moment the sentence was handed down.

Trump, OTOH, is showing that he knows he’s going to get convicted on the charges, and that it’s all going to come crashing down.

Hope and pray that will come to pass. But you never know with juries and what influences they may be subjected to, especially given they aren’t sequestered.

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steve_davis  May 29, 2024 • 9:18:13am

re: #307 Romantic Heretic

I’m sure some one has already said this but if you’ve missed Babylon 5 you’ve missed a treat. I still watch the whole thing every few years and it never gets old.

I just could not get into it. Everyone was raving about it, and I found the whole series on DVD at the library back in the 90’s, but two episodes in and I was like, “Nah, I just don’t freakin’ care.” However, Firefly and Farscape had me in for the duration. I guess I just liked the more self-contained stories. No 3 season arcs. And the episode where the one crew member tries to sell off the young heroine, and the captain retaliates by leaving him in the exposed cargo hold while they’re exiting the planet (though ultimately not killing him) is still just a really nice moment of dirty realism in sf.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 29, 2024 • 9:20:15am

re: #309 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Like raising money for a child’s cancer treatment…that’s not inspiring it’s just tragic.

Better than no treatment at all.

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wrenchwench  May 29, 2024 • 9:22:34am

re: #331 Shropshire Slasher

Better than no treatment at all.

Is that the available alternative? In the richest country ever, anywhere?

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sagehen  May 29, 2024 • 9:23:11am

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

So what’s the over / under on how long the deliberations last?

If he’s convicted late Friday afternoon, he could be sentenced on the spot and taken into custody immediately. It would be until Monday before he could file his appeal.

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No Malarkey!  May 29, 2024 • 9:23:16am

re: #328 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

In a properly functioning world the GOP would never have nominated him. His campaign would have been the media circus to gain attention for books and grift as many surmised it might have been intended for from the get-go.

The GOP has had so much success in reducing the tax burden on their dark money donors over the last few decades, the Right has had to go completely off the rails in order to continue to whip up enough hate and fear in their voting base to deliver even more tax cuts. It is because GOP voters live in such a warped version of reality that someone who so obviously has no business being anywhere near the Oval Office was able to seize control of the GOP for his own venal aims.

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Nerdy Fish  May 29, 2024 • 9:25:02am

re: #333 sagehen

If he’s convicted late Friday afternoon, he could be sentenced on the spot and taken into custody immediately. It would be until Monday before he could file his appeal.

Sentencing is done at a hearing, where the judge hears arguments from the prosecution and the defense on why the convicted deserves a certain sentence - the defense usually arguing for “less than a slap on the wrist,” the prosecution usually arguing for “throw the book at them”. Character witnesses may be involved. He is not getting sentenced immediately upon a verdict being returned. Not no way, not no how.

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 9:25:10am

re: #323 lawhawk

The comparison to mob prosecutions is pretty stark. John Gotti and his ilk would walk into the trial confident and exude/ooze that confidence every time they were in public.

They were confident right up to the moment the sentence was handed down.

Trump, OTOH, is showing that he knows he’s going to get convicted on the charges, and that it’s all going to come crashing down.

tfg isnt as smart as gotti

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sagehen  May 29, 2024 • 9:25:55am

re: #287 Hecuba’s daughter

TBF, his publication and other similar tabloids have been doing that since their inception and everyone knew that; they were notorious for publishing the most outrageous stories (as mocked in 1997 MIB). In this case though, the issue was they weren’t publishing true stories rather than deliberately publishing false ones.

Like Hillary’s about to be indicted and Hillary’s incredibly sick and she’ll die within 6 months and… and…. and…

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 9:26:45am

re: #328 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

In a properly functioning world the GOP would never have nominated him…..

^^^^^^^^^ +1000

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steve_davis  May 29, 2024 • 9:27:13am

re: #333 sagehen

If he’s convicted late Friday afternoon, he could be sentenced on the spot and taken into custody immediately. It would be until Monday before he could file his appeal.

that was my hope, but somebody mentioned on another site (maybe the washington post) that he’d have to go through some humiliating procedure with the probation office, which would write up a pre-sentencing report. What would do him in is that he will likely maintain his level of bragaddocio there, and that report goes back to the judge who factors it in for sentencing. I could easily see Trump managing to turn what would otherwise be 12-month in-house confinement into 48 months at Rykers with drug testing and a psych eval.

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No Malarkey!  May 29, 2024 • 9:27:46am

re: #333 sagehen

If he’s convicted late Friday afternoon, he could be sentenced on the spot and taken into custody immediately. It would be until Monday before he could file his appeal.

Nice to think about, but that isn’t going to happen. Unfortunately, as a first time non-violent offender, it seems unlikely that Trump will do any time at all. Though in my personal opinion, a man guilty of dozens of felonies who has zero remorse for his crimes and who has already attempted one violent coup and is planning another really ought to be in prison.

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Decatur Deb  May 29, 2024 • 9:27:49am

re: #337 sagehen

Like Hillary’s about to be indicted and Hillary’s incredibly sick and she’ll die within 6 months and… and…. and…

Hillary’s Alien Love Child.

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lawhawk  May 29, 2024 • 9:28:09am

re: #336 Dangerman

tfg isnt as smart as gotti

Gotti paid his lawyers…. Trump didn’t.

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KGxvi  May 29, 2024 • 9:28:11am

re: #13 Joe Bacon ✅

Went to Kaiser’s Hollywood offices on Friday and Today for followups and now I’m seeing these plastered on streetlights around the $¢ientology HQ

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I wonder if in 15-20 years there are going to be people deconstructing their scientology the way we see people deconstructing their christian upbringings.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 29, 2024 • 9:29:57am

re: #198 Dave In Austin

Morning all.
I see Jason Miller is spewing again.

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That’s a remarkably good picture of him. 😉

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Decatur Deb  May 29, 2024 • 9:30:58am

Hillary’s Alien Baby And 7 Other Out-of-This-World Tabloid Tales

motherjones.com

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Hecuba's daughter  May 29, 2024 • 9:31:40am

re: #333 sagehen

If he’s convicted late Friday afternoon, he could be sentenced on the spot and taken into custody immediately. It would be until Monday before he could file his appeal.

Even if he is convicted, will he be taken into custody immediately? Won’t that depend on the sentencing phase of the trial? The judge did tell the jury that he wouldn’t necessarily be sentenced to prison.

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KGxvi  May 29, 2024 • 9:31:49am

re: #340 No Malarkey!

Nice to think about, but that isn’t going to happen. Unfortunately, as a first time non-violent offender, it seems unlikely that Trump will do any time at all. Though in my personal opinion, a man guilty of dozens of felonies who has zero remorse for his crimes and who has already attempted one violent coup and is planning another really ought to be in prison.

they did send Weisenberg to prison, so I could see them giving Trump at least a couple of months, probably home confinement.

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Decatur Deb  May 29, 2024 • 9:33:06am

re: #346 Hecuba’s daughter

Even if he is convicted, will he be taken into custody immediately? Won’t that depend on the sentencing phase of the trial? The judge did tell the jury that he wouldn’t necessarily be sentenced to prison.

What is the status of his bail upon conviction?

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Nerdy Fish  May 29, 2024 • 9:33:26am

re: #346 Hecuba’s daughter

Even if he is convicted, will he be taken into custody immediately? Won’t that depend on the sentencing phase of the trial? The judge did tell the jury that he wouldn’t necessarily be sentenced to prison.

I think it depends on his disposition before the trial. So, for example, Derek Chauvin was remanded into custody following his conviction, because he was already being held pre-trial (for his own safety, granted, but still). I think Trump would be released into a form of supervised release pending sentencing.

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No Malarkey!  May 29, 2024 • 9:33:32am

re: #346 Hecuba’s daughter

Even if he is convicted, will he be taken into custody immediately? Won’t that depend on the sentencing phase of the trial? The judge did tell the jury that he wouldn’t necessarily be sentenced to prison.

No, he won’t be. There will be a sentencing hearing.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 29, 2024 • 9:36:04am

re: #230 darthstar

So I guess things didn’t go so well for Trump yesterday…

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Cry moar, bitch!

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 29, 2024 • 9:36:29am

re: #327 Joe Bacon ✅

Kenny Rogers’ Roasters.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 9:36:44am

re: #331 Shropshire Slasher

Better than no treatment at all.

that|s not the effing point

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TedStriker  May 29, 2024 • 9:37:15am

re: #156 Lancelot Link Returns!

A little dab’ll do ya!

Along with a Ricky Ricardo jacket and an autographed picture of Andy Devine…

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KGxvi  May 29, 2024 • 9:38:58am

re: #349 Nerdy Fish

I think it depends on his disposition before the trial. So, for example, Derek Chauvin was remanded into custody following his conviction, because he was already being held pre-trial (for his own safety, granted, but still). I think Trump would be released into a form of supervised release pending sentencing.

As I’ve been saying for a while, given that he has a Secret Service detail, he is basically already in federal custody… he just doesn’t realize it. The Secret Service isn’t going to fight the FBI or the Marshalls or the New York Department of Corrections.

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calochortus  May 29, 2024 • 9:39:44am

re: #305 PhillyPretzel ✅

The Sound of Music was a pretty good movie. I do not think Godzilla would help it.

And yet Bambi Meets Godzilla is a classic.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 29, 2024 • 9:40:11am

Flabbo couldn’t fit in a pair of boxing trunks.

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Nerdy Fish  May 29, 2024 • 9:40:19am

re: #355 KGxvi

As I’ve been saying for a while, given that he has a Secret Service detail, he is basically already in federal custody… he just doesn’t realize it. The Secret Service isn’t going to fight the FBI or the Marshalls or the New York Department of Corrections.

True. I think it would then be a tacit arrangement with the Secret Service to check in with the New York Department of Corrections. I’m sure the relevant agencies have probably already discussed this.

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darthstar  May 29, 2024 • 9:41:13am

LO Fucking L

Mastodon

Mastodon

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KGxvi  May 29, 2024 • 9:41:29am

re: #354 TedStriker

Along with a Ricky Ricardo jacket and an autographed picture of Andy Devine…

but only jazz musicians are smoking marijuana…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 9:41:50am

re: #356 calochortus

And yet Bambi Meets Godzilla is a classic.

the musical version can only be a winner

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Nerdy Fish  May 29, 2024 • 9:42:45am

“What if the former President we’re assigned to guard gets convicted of felonies” is probably not a question the Secret Service ever imagined they’d have to ask themselves, especially pre-Nixon, but here we are.

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Decatur Deb  May 29, 2024 • 9:43:22am

re: #353 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that|s not the effing point

Wife and I have been watching a bunch of British Emergency Air Ambulance series. (She’s a retired RN.) We are sure no one in this country is getting the services shown in this:
imdb.com

The service is a combination of NHS medics and NGO aviation assests.

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 9:44:09am

re: #358 Nerdy Fish

True. I think it would then be a tacit arrangement with the Secret Service to check in with the New York Department of Corrections. I’m sure the relevant agencies have probably already discussed this.

they’ve been coordinating. it’s all rigged

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Shropshire Slasher  May 29, 2024 • 9:44:35am

re: #364 Dangerman

they’ve been coordinating. it’s all rigged

It is all standard operating procedure for the Secret Service.

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lawhawk  May 29, 2024 • 9:44:54am

re: #327 Joe Bacon ✅

The burning question! Will the jurors ask for lunch delivery from Katz’s, Mendy’s, Junior’s or Pastrami Queen?

John’s of Bleecker (the original location)
Joe’s Shanghai or Famous Sichuan
Parm.

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Nerdy Fish  May 29, 2024 • 9:45:18am

re: #365 Shropshire Slasher

It is all standard operating procedure for the Secret Service.

The esteemed dangerman is making a play on what the subject of these discussions would say, if he had enough brain power to realize what was going on.

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Nerdy Fish  May 29, 2024 • 9:47:10am

Also, I highly doubt any of what’s going on with the former guy right now qualifies as “standard,” but no doubt they’re writing those operating manuals as they go.

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 9:49:23am

re: #366 lawhawk

John’s of Bleecker (the original location)
Joe’s Shanghai or Famous Sichuan
Parm.

Wo Hop

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Nerdy Fish  May 29, 2024 • 9:52:38am

re: #359 darthstar

LO Fucking L

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To the original point, I would assume they can’t let him leave the courthouse because the jury could return a verdict at any given time, and they don’t want him halfway across the country when the verdict comes in and have to wait for hours to get him back.

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lawhawk  May 29, 2024 • 9:58:43am

re: #370 Nerdy Fish

Defendants aren’t allowed to leave the building during deliberations, because often the defendant is remanded into custody pending sentencing. They don’t have freedom to wander. Because there’s always a chance they might attempt to flee.

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 10:00:50am

re: #371 lawhawk

Defendants aren’t allowed to leave the building during deliberations, because often the defendant is remanded into custody pending sentencing. They don’t have freedom to wander. Because there’s always a chance they might attempt to flee.

sucks having to do what other people tell you to do

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gocart mozart  May 29, 2024 • 10:01:45am
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No Malarkey!  May 29, 2024 • 10:02:35am

re: #371 lawhawk

Defendants aren’t allowed to leave the building during deliberations, because often the defendant is remanded into custody pending sentencing. They don’t have freedom to wander. Because there’s always a chance they might attempt to flee.

I know it won’t happen, but how sweet it would be if Judge Merchan said that given the fact we have a defendant convicted of multiple felonies, completely lacking remorse, who has time and again incited violence against innocent people, at this time I am remanding the convict to custody pending sentencing.

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wrenchwench  May 29, 2024 • 10:03:10am

re: #371 lawhawk

Defendants aren’t allowed to leave the building during deliberations, because often the defendant is remanded into custody pending sentencing. They don’t have freedom to wander. Because there’s always a chance they might attempt to flee.

No hair and makeup technicians, awkward diaper changes, PUBLIC BATHROOMS?!?!?

It’s like his introduction to incarceration. Now, hand over the electronics…

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Decatur Deb  May 29, 2024 • 10:03:46am

re: #374 No Malarkey!

With an intercontinental jet at his disposal.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 29, 2024 • 10:14:46am

re: #295 Targetpractice

“Feel good tragedies.” That’s what our media is so littered with today, stories that should be repulsive in a “free” and “civilized” nation but which are instead sold to us as something to cheer because our nation’s so fucked.

“An entire community came together to raise $250000 for a beloved neighbors cancer treatments.”

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No Malarkey!  May 29, 2024 • 10:17:33am

Judge dismisses all charges against famous celebrity golfer. No, not that one!

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 10:19:20am

re: #374 No Malarkey!

I know it won’t happen, but how sweet it would be if Judge Merchan said that given the fact we have a defendant convicted of multiple felonies, completely lacking remorse, who has time and again incited violence against innocent people, at this time I am remanding the convict to custody pending sentencing.

Its what would happen to any other schlub

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wrenchwench  May 29, 2024 • 10:20:24am

One man mass incarceration event.

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 10:23:27am
“I DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE CHARGES ARE IN THIS RIGGED CASE—I AM ENTITLED TO SPECIFICITY JUST LIKE ANYONE ELSE. THERE IS NO CRIME!”

today on troof.

meanwhile he told the judge on April 4 that he understood the charges against him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 10:27:33am

re: #381 Dangerman

today on troof.

meanwhile he told the judge on April 4 that he understood the charges against him.

again, he just says whatever he thinks the people he is addressing need or want to hear at that particular moment

it has worked like a charm so far

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 10:28:10am

re: #381 Dangerman

today on troof.

meanwhile he told the judge on April 4 that he understood the charges against him.

The charges are pretty clear. They’re in simple english to read And doesn’t he discuss the case with counsel probably every damned day?

Maybe a guy who doesn’t understand the charges or the process ought not to be president.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 10:29:20am

again he is saying that because he knows that most of his supporters don’t understand the charges so why should he?

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jaunte  May 29, 2024 • 10:33:50am

I’m curious about the percentage of today’s jury deliberation that will be strictly about the copious evidence of guilt, versus the jury taking the time to reassure the public that they’re providing a fair hearing to the defendant.

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Nerdy Fish  May 29, 2024 • 10:35:04am

re: #384 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again he is saying that because he knows that most of his supporters don’t understand the charges so why should he?

He’s saying it because a prerequisite of being properly charged under the law is accepting that you understand the charges; if you don’t, they have to explain it to you in words you can understand, until you get to the point where you are mentally unfit to stand trial. The problem is, he said he did understand them, and the court system has that on record, so it’s a bit late to shut that particular barn door.

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b.d.  May 29, 2024 • 10:36:17am

re: #385 jaunte

I’m curious about the percentage of today’s jury deliberation that will be strictly about the copious evidence of guilt, versus the jury taking the time to reassure the public that they’re providing a fair hearing to the defendant.

There are attorneys on the jury, the 1st week of deliberations will probably all be devoted to electing the foreman.

//

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 10:36:59am

And the hits keep on coming

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 10:38:07am

re: #387 b.d.

There are attorneys on the jury, the 1st week of deliberations will probably all be devoted to electing the foreman.

//

Who do they send the bill to?

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jaunte  May 29, 2024 • 10:39:06am

@chrisgeidner.bsky.social

BREAKING: Justice Sam Alito refuses to recuse himself from Jan. 6 cases or Trump cases in letter to Congress.
lawdork.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 29, 2024 • 10:39:59am

re: #386 Nerdy Fish

He’s saying it because a prerequisite of being properly charged under the law is accepting that you understand the charges…

which is why I say he is just playing to the gallery

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Nerdy Fish  May 29, 2024 • 10:40:25am

re: #390 jaunte

@chrisgeidner.bsky.social

BREAKING: Justice Sam Alito refuses to recuse himself from Jan. 6 cases or Trump cases in letter to Congress.
lawdork.com

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Rules and ethics are for squares. Alito is a justice at war (literally - he believes his ideology is at war for the heart and soul of America), and as they say, all’s fair in love and war.

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jaunte  May 29, 2024 • 10:40:41am

A person with unconstrained power will not surrender it voluntarily.

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Nerdy Fish  May 29, 2024 • 10:42:34am

Honestly the “my wife is an independent autonomous human being and if she wants to fly a flag at our home I can’t and won’t stop her” is probably the most post-19th-century thing Alito has ever said.

— Popehat (@kenwhite.bsky.social) 2024-05-29T17:39:00.387Z

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wrenchwench  May 29, 2024 • 10:42:40am

re: #390 jaunte

@chrisgeidner.bsky.social

BREAKING: Justice Sam Alito refuses to recuse himself from Jan. 6 cases or Trump cases in letter to Congress.
lawdork.com

[Embedded content]

Self-judging judge is worse than self-policing police.

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wrenchwench  May 29, 2024 • 10:43:25am

re: #391 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

which is why I say he is just playing to the gallery

The gallery gets to leave and hit the delis.

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jaunte  May 29, 2024 • 10:44:14am

@grudgie.bsky.social

“Alito asked me to not get an abortion but we refuse” - all women

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danarchy  May 29, 2024 • 10:45:31am

So question? If the jury comes back with an acquital, and juries have done stranger things, will anyone reconsider or just insist that the jury got it wrong?

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jaunte  May 29, 2024 • 10:46:24am

re: #398 danarchy

I’ll consider Todd Blanche the most surprised lawyer in the country.

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gocart mozart  May 29, 2024 • 10:47:53am

The MAGA brain trust has shown up.

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Nerdy Fish  May 29, 2024 • 10:48:32am

re: #398 danarchy

So question? If the jury comes back with an acquital, and juries have done stranger things, will anyone reconsider or just insist that the jury got it wrong?

Honestly? If the jury comes back with an acquittal, I’ll be surprised, but it has to be pretty unanimous for that. Now a hung jury, on the other hand.

402
Eclectic Cyborg  May 29, 2024 • 10:48:47am

re: #390 jaunte

Shorter Alito: “I don’t have to recuse myself and you can’t make me. Fuck off.”

403
steve_davis  May 29, 2024 • 10:52:19am

re: #373 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

This just caused me to do a google search. Apparently, men from Congo rank first, with Ecuador second. America ranks behind Japan for dick size. South Koreans have tiny little tuggers. I would not have guessed that, but there we are.

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Targetpractice  May 29, 2024 • 10:53:11am

re: #398 danarchy

So question? If the jury comes back with an acquital, and juries have done stranger things, will anyone reconsider or just insist that the jury got it wrong?

I’ll take the same mindset as I did when George Zimmerman walked: The prosecution fucked up their handling of the case, failed to meet the burden, and a guilty man has walked free. Short of some evidence of shenanigans of the illegal variety, I can’t hold the jury responsible because they can only judge the case based upon the evidence presented and the legal arguments made.

405
steve_davis  May 29, 2024 • 10:54:01am

re: #374 No Malarkey!

I know it won’t happen, but how sweet it would be if Judge Merchan said that given the fact we have a defendant convicted of multiple felonies, completely lacking remorse, who has time and again incited violence against innocent people, at this time I am remanding the convict to custody pending sentencing.

That was my thought. The judge could certainly argue that based on Trump’s repeated violation of the gag order, and his non-stop discussion even today about how all this is rigged would strongly suggest he can’t be released because he will become a danger to the court’s officials and even to jurors.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 29, 2024 • 10:54:13am

re: #403 steve_davis

This just caused me to do a google search. Apparently, men from Congo rank first, with Ecuador second. America ranks behind Japan for dick size. South Koreans have tiny little tuggers. I would not have guessed that, but there we are.

It’s more about how you use it anyway.

Half /

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 29, 2024 • 10:54:41am

re: #390 jaunte

I’m surprised Cardinal Alito didn’t include that he’s on a mission from Gawd.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 29, 2024 • 10:55:26am

re: #405 steve_davis

Also, if you think Trump isn’t gonna start trashing Merchan, Merchans daughter and whoever the fuck else when the gag order expires…

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steve_davis  May 29, 2024 • 10:55:50am

re: #385 jaunte

I’m curious about the percentage of today’s jury deliberation that will be strictly about the copious evidence of guilt, versus the jury taking the time to reassure the public that they’re providing a fair hearing to the defendant.

“Let’s find out what’s on tap for lunch tomorrow, and if we don’t like it, we can go ahead and return the verdict.”

410
Captain Ron  May 29, 2024 • 10:56:55am
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Nerdy Fish  May 29, 2024 • 10:57:01am

re: #408 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, if you think Trump isn’t gonna start trashing Merchan, Merchans daughter and whoever the fuck else when the gag order expires…

Nah, he won’t. Then it’ll be on to either the NY Appellate Division, or to whatever trial is coming up next - maybe back to Fani Willis and that whole shitshow.

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jaunte  May 29, 2024 • 10:57:21am

re: #407 Joe Bacon ✅

It’s one of those things that doesn’t even have to be said any more.

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No Malarkey!  May 29, 2024 • 10:58:05am

re: #385 jaunte

I’m curious about the percentage of today’s jury deliberation that will be strictly about the copious evidence of guilt, versus the jury taking the time to reassure the public that they’re providing a fair hearing to the defendant.

Jurors may be willing to be interviewed and enlighten us after the verdict is rendered.

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jaunte  May 29, 2024 • 10:58:23am

Why would God’s man recuse?

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No Malarkey!  May 29, 2024 • 11:03:12am

re: #398 danarchy

So question? If the jury comes back with an acquital, and juries have done stranger things, will anyone reconsider or just insist that the jury got it wrong?

Just because the jury has a reasonable doubt does not mean Trump didn’t do it; it only means the prosecution failed to prove it.

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jaunte  May 29, 2024 • 11:03:25am

Can I just remark on what a colossal, unmitigated chickenshit Alito is with such unaccountable power, choosing to blame his wife for some negative publicity?

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 29, 2024 • 11:04:04am

re: #413 No Malarkey!

Jurors may be willing to be interviewed and enlighten us after the verdict is rendered.

And incur the wrath of the MAGAts?

Could be risky, just saying.

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jaunte  May 29, 2024 • 11:04:10am

@donmoyn.bsky.social

“My wife is fond of flying flags. I am not” is an all-timer

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 11:04:23am

re: #406 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s more about how you use it anyway.

Half /

Cue any one of a bunch of jazz songs here

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Dr Lizardo  May 29, 2024 • 11:05:32am

re: #336 Dangerman

tfg isnt as smart as gotti

And that’s saying something, because no one ever called John Gotti an intellectual titan.

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wrenchwench  May 29, 2024 • 11:09:23am

re: #416 jaunte

Can I just remark on what a colossal, unmitigated chickenshit Alito is with such unaccountable power, choosing to blame his wife for some negative publicity?

And yet, she persisted. Next we’ll see her in a pussy hat.

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Dangerman  May 29, 2024 • 11:10:21am

re: #411 Nerdy Fish

Nah, he won’t. Then it’ll be on to either the NY Appellate Division, or to whatever trial is coming up next - maybe back to Fani Willis and that whole shitshow.

Think tfg remembers the name of the last judge who he also trashed incessantly. I bet not.

(Engoron or Kaplan)

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Florida Panhandler  May 29, 2024 • 11:15:09am

re: #416 jaunte

Nothing matters but a soldier’s loyalty to the cause. Not country. Not the Constitution, or even family. Alito is a full- blown soldier for the Federalist Society, a dedicated cult member and everything that entails. He and Clarence Thomas are willing to die on any hill for the cause they represent- pure 100% power with an entitlement to rule as they see fit.

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No Malarkey!  May 29, 2024 • 11:16:03am

re: #417 Eclectic Cyborg

And incur the wrath of the MAGAts?

Could be risky, just saying.

I would only grant an interview on a condition of anonymity.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 29, 2024 • 11:51:13am

re: #292 teleskiguy

He looks a lot better than he should. 🤬🤬


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