The Bob Cesca Podcast: Where's Lorenzo?

The Bob Cesca Podcast: Where’s Lorenzo?

Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Where’s Lorenzo? — Trump called Ronny Jackson “Ronny Johnson” — twice. How Trump plans to make prices skyrocket. If you or anyone you know is planning on voting against Biden because of prices, you need to listen up. Trump’s tariffs, mass deportations, and de-regulatory policies will spike inflation and potentially crash the economy — the exact opposite of what many voters mistakenly believe. “Biden is Old” is the new “Hillary is Dying.” Fox News and the NY Post used “cheapfakes” to make Biden seem decrepit. Why Trump is far worse. Trump repeatedly called for his own staffers to be executed. The MAGA war against online porn is underway. Many states will ban it starting July 1. Steve Bannon headling for the Orange Is The New Black prison. With Buzz Burbank, music by Young Gun Silver Fox, Gin, Chocolate & Bottle Rockets, and more!

Jump to bottom

112 comments

Dave In Austin Jun 18, 2024 • 1:16:54pm

Meeting my trusted friend Kim pic.twitter.com/Po4rv4hqXa

— Darth Putin (@DarthPutinKGB) June 18, 2024

Dangerman Jun 18, 2024 • 1:27:55pm

fwiw, after hours trading of DJT is down 31.31 down to 26.92 (14%) since the close

Dangerman Jun 18, 2024 • 1:31:51pm

re: #2 Dangerman

fwiw, after hours trading of DJT is down 31.31 down to 26.92 (14%) since the close

the ‘group’ djtww, is down over 20%

Charles Johnson Jun 18, 2024 • 1:32:51pm

re: #3 Dangerman

It started into a nosedive when he was convicted.

Charles Johnson Jun 18, 2024 • 1:35:47pm

What if you drained the oceans?

Charles Johnson Jun 18, 2024 • 1:39:19pm

Meanwhile…

Tony Perkins Says The Biden Administration Is ‘Aligned With The Devil’

Charles Johnson Jun 18, 2024 • 1:41:52pm

It should be illegal to play guitar like this.

Minuano - Pat Metheny Group || Josh Meader

Dangerman Jun 18, 2024 • 1:42:37pm

oh dear, did i say 14 and 20% down?

i meant 17.5 and 32.5% down

goddamnedfrank Jun 18, 2024 • 1:44:55pm

Wikipedia’s editors have voted to declare the Anti-Defamation League “generally unreliable” on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, adding it to a list of banned and partially banned sources. They also voted to deem the organization unreliable on the topic of antisemitism.
www.jta.org/2024/06/18/u...

— jon ben-menachem (@jbenmenachem.com) 2024-06-18T20:33:51.035Z

Dangerman Jun 18, 2024 • 1:51:54pm

Dangerman Jun 18, 2024 • 1:53:24pm

No Malarkey! Jun 18, 2024 • 1:53:30pm

Video laying out the reasons Judge Merchan should sentence Trump to prison on July 11. BREAKING: Trump gets bad news ahead of sentencing in New York

Dangerman Jun 18, 2024 • 1:56:17pm

Mattand Jun 18, 2024 • 1:59:18pm

re: #12 No Malarkey!

Video laying out the reasons Judge Merchan should sentence Trump to prison on July 11. [Embedded content]

He ain’t going to prison, gang. He ain’t getting house arrest.

He’ll get probation, aka, a slap on the wrist, because he’s a “first time elderly offender.” Merchan will read him the riot act, but that’s about it.

Trump’ll show up at the hearing, Merchan will yell at him, and then Trump will bug out to his latest hatefest.

KGxvi Jun 18, 2024 • 2:00:27pm

re: #106 wrenchwench

A ‘better nominee’ who will end up perpetuating the two-party system is of no interest to those focused on ending the two-party system. IMHO, as a former one of those, observing many others of the ilk.

Personally, I’ve no problem with ending the two party system. Expand the House, abolish the electoral college (go to something like what the French have with a general election and top two run off if nobody gets to 50%).

Nerdy Fish Jun 18, 2024 • 2:07:18pm

We’re in for a wild ride.

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HAS ISSUED TORNADO WATCH 433 IN
EFFECT UNTIL 8 PM CDT THIS EVENING FOR THE FOLLOWING AREAS

IN MINNESOTA THIS WATCH INCLUDES 41 COUNTIES

IN CENTRAL MINNESOTA

BENTON KANDIYOHI MCLEOD
MEEKER MORRISON RENVILLE
SHERBURNE SIBLEY STEARNS
TODD WRIGHT

IN EAST CENTRAL MINNESOTA

ANOKA CARVER CHISAGO
DAKOTA HENNEPIN ISANTI
KANABEC MILLE LACS RAMSEY
SCOTT WASHINGTON

IN SOUTH CENTRAL MINNESOTA

BLUE EARTH BROWN FARIBAULT
FREEBORN LE SUEUR MARTIN
NICOLLET RICE STEELE
WASECA WATONWAN

IN SOUTHWEST MINNESOTA

REDWOOD

IN WEST CENTRAL MINNESOTA

CHIPPEWA DOUGLAS LAC QUI PARLE
POPE STEVENS SWIFT
YELLOW MEDICINE

THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF ALBERT LEA, ALEXANDRIA, BENSON,
BLAINE, BLUE EARTH, CAMBRIDGE, CENTER CITY, CHANHASSEN, CHASKA,
ELK RIVER, FAIRMONT, FARIBAULT, GAYLORD, GLENWOOD, GRANITE FALLS,
HASTINGS, HUTCHINSON, LE SUEUR, LITCHFIELD, LITTLE FALLS,
LONG PRAIRIE, MADISON, MANKATO, MINNEAPOLIS, MONTEVIDEO,
MONTICELLO, MORA, MORRIS, NEW ULM, OLIVIA, OWATONNA, PRINCETON,
REDWOOD FALLS, SAUK RAPIDS, SHAKOPEE, ST CLOUD, ST JAMES,
ST PAUL, ST PETER, STILLWATER, VICTORIA, WASECA, AND WILLMAR.

Hecuba's daughter Jun 18, 2024 • 2:10:50pm

re: #14 Mattand

He ain’t going to prison, gang. He ain’t getting house arrest.

He’ll get probation, aka, a slap on the wrist, because he’s “first time elderly offender.” Merchan will read him the riot act, but that’s about it.

Trump’ll show up at the hearing, Merchan will yell at him, and then Trump will bug out to his latest hatefest.

Sounds right, given the nature of the offense. I fear the other crimes he committed will never get to trial. Our judiciary is corrupted.

Dangerman Jun 18, 2024 • 2:11:42pm

re: #15 KGxvi

Personally, I’ve no problem with ending the two party system. Expand the House, abolish the electoral college (go to something like what the French have with a general election and top two run off if nobody gets to 50%).

imo, if your goal is to end the two party system, and, while the system is as it is (first past the post, one of the major two will win) …

- neither third party voting nor not voting is an effective tactic to accomplish your goal
- like it or don’t, if you do not vote for ‘the best’ or the ‘least worst’ as you see it of who’s likely to win, you are by half or whole, supporting the ‘more worse’. that is not an effective tactic in accomplishing your goal

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Jun 18, 2024 • 2:12:58pm

re: #15 KGxvi

Personally, I’ve no problem with ending the two party system. Expand the House, abolish the electoral college (go to something like what the French have with a general election and top two run off if nobody gets to 50%).

The two-party system is what happens in first-past-the-post elections, even with top two run-offs. People will divide themselves largely into two broad camps. If a party collapses under the American system, a new party simply arises. It would be tough ending parties anyway, since they are essentially clubs.

Here, state offices are non-partisan and party caucuses are prohibited in the Unicameral, yet we still have two parties that co-ordinate outside the legislature. An independent will rarely win, and the third-largest party in the state is the Legalize Marijuana Now Party. (The Libertarian Party has collapsed here after the Von Mises monarchist/racist caucus took over the national party, and the Green Party does not have enough supporters to even form a state party.)

We already have some states with run-offs, such as California (a Democrat or another Democrat), Louisiana (a Republican or another Republican).

wrenchwench Jun 18, 2024 • 2:15:01pm

re: #15 KGxvi

Personally, I’ve no problem with ending the two party system. Expand the House, abolish the electoral college (go to something like what the French have with a general election and top two run off if nobody gets to 50%).

But you seem to be reasonable enough to refrain from ‘accidentally’ electing Trump by voting 3rd party.

I blame the type I described for electing Trump in 2016.

Romantic Heretic Jun 18, 2024 • 2:21:03pm

re: #1 Dave In Austin

You might want to have your taster check that, Darth. Kim’s, um, kind of a dick and he would regard offing you as a feather in his cap.

I offer the same advice to Kim.

Romantic Heretic Jun 18, 2024 • 2:22:14pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Tony would know as his Boss is actually The Guy Downstairs.

Nerdy Fish Jun 18, 2024 • 2:22:29pm

re: #20 wrenchwench

But you seem to be reasonable enough to refrain from ‘accidentally’ electing Trump by voting 3rd party.

I blame the type I described for electing Trump in 2016.

I imagine most of us would prefer to end the two-party system and to have more, and better, choices of candidates for various offices. That’s a thing we can work on after we do the work of preventing fascists from making it a one-party system.

gwangung Jun 18, 2024 • 2:29:25pm

re: #18 Dangerman

imo, if your goal is to end the two party system, and, while the system is as it is (first past the post, one of the major two will win) …

- neither third party voting nor not voting is an effective tactic to accomplish your goal
- like it or don’t, if you do not vote for ‘the best’ or the ‘least worst’ as you see it of who’s likely to win, you are by half or whole, supporting the ‘more worse’. that is not an effective tactic in accomplishing your goal

If you don’t back the two-party system, nothing less than tearing it down and building something will do. Voting third party or not voting STILL PERPETUATES the two party system.

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Jun 18, 2024 • 2:31:59pm

Tropical Storm Warning Flag

4PM National Hurricane Center update.

The Tropical Storm Warning has been extended northward in Texas to the San Luis Pass (Galveston).

The storm has moved out of the Gulf of Mexico and is still travelling north at 6mph. Maximum sustained winds are 40mph. Strengthening is forecast. Tropical storm force winds extend to the north 415 miles.

Charles Johnson Jun 18, 2024 • 2:33:27pm

I’ve gotten used to not having the flying cars and robot butlers I was promised, but nobody told me there were going to be this many fucking Nazis around in 2024.

— Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-06-18T21:25:22.000Z

darthstar Jun 18, 2024 • 2:41:48pm

Mastodon

darthstar Jun 18, 2024 • 2:42:06pm

Apparently there’s no room for the unvaccinated on stage.

Jay C Jun 18, 2024 • 2:46:43pm

*Just* made it today.

Click to Reveal

Wordle 1,095 6/6

⬜⬜⬜🟩⬜
⬜🟩⬜🟩🟩
⬜🟩⬜🟩🟩
⬜🟩⬜🟩🟩
⬜🟩⬜🟩🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Wordlebot sez that after my second guess, there were 21 possible correct answers, and (!) 12 after the fifth guess: so getting it right was definitely a matter of luck.

Not a great day for me at the NYT Games page: I (most unusually) blew Connections completely, and needed one glimpse at the Grid to ace Spelling Bee. Oh well, always tomorrow…

retired cynic Jun 18, 2024 • 2:52:12pm

BabelColour
@StuartHumphryes
Today is the 209th Anniversary of the Battle of Waterloo, where Napoleon Bonaparte and his french army were defeated by the forces of the Duke of Wellington and Marshal Blücher, near Waterloo in Belgium. It ended the Napoleonic Wars which had raged for 23 years. To commemorate the anniversary, I share this fantastic character photograph of a British veteran of those wars, proudly displaying his campaign medal (which was won in Spain) alongside his rather unimpressed wife. It was taken in 1850.

aatharuv Jun 18, 2024 • 2:53:16pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The two-party system is what happens in first-past-the-post elections, even with top two run-offs. People will divide themselves largely into two broad camps. If a party collapses under the American system, a new party simply arises. It would be tough ending parties anyway, since they are essentially clubs.

Here, state offices are non-partisan and party caucuses are prohibited in the Unicameral, yet we still have two parties that co-ordinate outside the legislature. An independent will rarely win, and the third-largest party in the state is the Legalize Marijuana Now Party. (The Libertarian Party has collapsed here after the Von Mises monarchist/racist caucus took over the national party, and the Green Party does not have enough supporters to even form a state party.)

We already have some states with run-offs, such as California (a Democrat or another Democrat), Louisiana (a Republican or another Republican).

California does have two Democrat elections, but it sometimes has two Republican elections, and most of the time it has Democrat Republican elections.

Something like rank order voting (like what they have in Alaska I believe) is more likely to get a voting result that most people find acceptable. *And I know there are theorems that say no voting system can eliminate the spoiler effect”

In such a system, the Green at heart, can always put the Green as their first preference candidate and list the Democrat as their second preference. There might be a few people who are Stein or bust, but many of them are likely to vote for a Democrat as their second preference. (Despite the Mises takeover of the Libertarians, that’s still true for a fair number of them too.)

JC1 Jun 18, 2024 • 2:54:50pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile…

Tony Perkins Says The Biden Administration Is ‘Aligned With The Devil’

[Embedded content]

Running with. Not aligned with.
They’re just Van Halen fans.

EPR-radar Jun 18, 2024 • 2:56:40pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, of course, it is the Republican party that is a cesspit of Satan.

KGxvi Jun 18, 2024 • 2:56:52pm

re: #20 wrenchwench

But you seem to be reasonable enough to refrain from ‘accidentally’ electing Trump by voting 3rd party.

I blame the type I described for electing Trump in 2016.

I have the luxury of living in California where we haven’t had a close presidential election in my lifetime (definitely not in my voting life time)

KGxvi Jun 18, 2024 • 2:58:01pm

re: #31 aatharuv

California does have two Democrat elections, but it sometimes has two Republican elections, and most of the time it has Democrat Republican elections.

Something like rank order voting is more likely to get

In such a system, the Green at heart, can always put the Green as their first preference candidate and list the Democrat as their second preference. There might be a few people who are Stein or bust, but many of them are likely to vote for a Democrat as their second preference. (Despite the Mises takeover of the Libertarians, that’s still true for a fair number of them too.)

has ranked choice voting ever given us a winner that wasn’t the person who led after the first round?

Eclectic Cyborg Jun 18, 2024 • 2:58:14pm

re: #34 KGxvi

I have the luxury of living in California where we haven’t had a close presidential election in my lifetime (definitely not in my voting life time)

Yeah, but you had to suffer through 4 years of Trump just like the rest of us.

JC1 Jun 18, 2024 • 2:58:44pm

re: #14 Mattand

He ain’t going to prison, gang. He ain’t getting house arrest.

He’ll get probation, aka, a slap on the wrist, because he’s a “first time elderly offender.” Merchan will read him the riot act, but that’s about it.

Trump’ll show up at the hearing, Merchan will yell at him, and then Trump will bug out to his latest hatefest.

He’s show zero remorse and has been threatening the judge and his family. Throw the book at him.

Joe Bacon ✅ Jun 18, 2024 • 2:59:46pm

This ass is too stupid to realize that she’s accurately describing the turd she worships.

KGxvi Jun 18, 2024 • 3:01:03pm

re: #38 Joe Bacon ✅

I would just point out that there is a difference between someone being a butthole and someone being an asshole.

Joe Bacon ✅ Jun 18, 2024 • 3:01:14pm

re: #34 KGxvi

I have the luxury of living in California where we haven’t had a close presidential election in my lifetime (definitely not in my voting life time)

And we can thank Pete Wilson for effectively destroying the Republican Party as a statewide force.

EPR-radar Jun 18, 2024 • 3:02:00pm

re: #38 Joe Bacon ✅

As if this liar would approve of a D president being “kind of a butthole”.

No, Republicans only approve of other Republicans being assholes, and that’s pretty much the entire party platform right there.

EPR-radar Jun 18, 2024 • 3:02:59pm

re: #40 Joe Bacon ✅

And we can thank Pete Wilson for effectively destroying the Republican Party as a statewide force.

The immigration issue is what buried Wilson and the CA GOP. May this be a bellwether for the nation.

Patricia Kayden Jun 18, 2024 • 3:12:00pm

Hundreds die in Mecca heat wave.
theguardian.com

Patricia Kayden Jun 18, 2024 • 3:14:31pm

re: #27 darthstar

What about his brain-eating worm? Can it debate?

Belafon Jun 18, 2024 • 3:14:59pm

re: #17 goddamnedfrank

And what we’re telling them is no, they and the Palestinians don’t have time to wait this out. Sheldon Anderson’s wife is going to dump a lot of money on Trump with the demand that he allow Israel to clear out the West Bank. Trump won’t stop Netanyahu, he will let him go far beyond what is happening now. And do the kids think they will live the 80 years it will take to clear out the damage Republicans will do?

They can scream all they want, but they still have to choose between the bus and not getting anywhere.

Joe Bacon ✅ Jun 18, 2024 • 3:16:30pm

re: #27 darthstar

Cuckoo For Cocoa Puffs RFK will lie any lie to put Trump back in the White House.
F him. G him. HIJKLMNOP him!

ericblair Jun 18, 2024 • 3:16:56pm

re: #42 EPR-radar

The immigration issue is what buried Wilson and the CA GOP. May this be a bellwether for the nation.

He was another shithead who sold his soul, gave up all honor and shame, and stood on the stage cranking up the big RACISM Price-is-Right dial all the way to the max to see how much applause he could get. Turns out you can turn it too far.

Joe Bacon ✅ Jun 18, 2024 • 3:20:14pm

re: #47 ericblair

He was another shithead who sold his soul, gave up all honor and shame, and stood on the stage cranking up the big RACISM Price-is-Right dial all the way to the max to see how much applause he could get. Turns out you can turn it too far.

And I can remember back in the 70s when Pete Wilson was a liberal Republican who supported McCloskey’s challenge to Nixon. In 1976 he supported Ford over Reagan and he was an avid supporter of Roe. But his lust for power got the best of him and he gladly led the GOP to it’s collapse statewide.

Eventual Carrion Jun 18, 2024 • 3:22:59pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Video

The Dutch

garzooma Jun 18, 2024 • 3:23:16pm

re: #30 retired cynic

BabelColour
@StuartHumphryes
Today is the 209th Anniversary of the Battle of Waterloo, where Napoleon Bonaparte and his french army were defeated by the forces of the Duke of Wellington and Marshal Blücher, near Waterloo in Belgium. It ended the Napoleonic Wars which had raged for 23 years. To commemorate the anniversary, I share this fantastic character photograph of a British veteran of those wars, proudly displaying his campaign medal (which was won in Spain) alongside his rather unimpressed wife. It was taken in 1850.

[Embedded content]

While we’re at it, here’s a photograph of the Duke of Wellington, taken in 1844:

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Jun 18, 2024 • 3:23:21pm

re: #71 (((Archangel1)))

Didn’t someone link on one of the prior pages a way to get Google to show in the old classic way? Like with some link modifier? Could have sworn I saw that here…

I’m not sure if the answer is already posted (I’m way behind) but if not, here’s that link.

Old School Google

KGxvi Jun 18, 2024 • 3:26:56pm

re: #42 EPR-radar

The immigration issue is what buried Wilson and the CA GOP. May this be a bellwether for the nation.

Prop 187 gets a lot of the credit/blame, but there were more factors involved. Especially considering that Wilson ran behind the proposition - he got 55% of the vote in 1994 and the prop passed with 59%. 1994 was also the last time the Republicans had a majority in the State Assembly.

There were other issues - like the end of the Cold War and the affect that had on industry in Southern California:

One major factor was the end of the Cold War, which led to the near-collapse of Southern California’s defense industry, a severe recession and then to an out-migration by hundreds of thousands of aerospace workers.

In fact, California lost 21 military bases in the early 90s.

Add to that, rising immigration from Latin America, the dot-com boom, dropping crime rates (which was always a big winner for Republicans), and Republicans deciding to run fairly terrible statewide candidates and you have a perfect storm.

Joe Bacon ✅ Jun 18, 2024 • 3:27:52pm

Damn I didn’t realize that there was almost a Royal Rumble in the House!

Fight nearly erupted on House floor after ‘bad-built butch body’ dig

A volley of barbs reportedly sent a routine House Oversight Committee hearing into disarray — and nearly turned into a rumble.

Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) and Jasmine Crockett (D-TX) clashed over an attempt to consider bringing contempt proceedings for Attorney General Merrick Garland for blocking the release of audio tapes related to an impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden based on his interview with special counsel Robert Hur. The dust-up drew in not only Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) as a protector, but also Ayanna Pressley (D-MA) as the silent enforcer — apparently pining to settle the matter with fists.

“When AOC jumped in so quickly, what people didn’t see off camera was that Ayanna Pressley was ready to jump in and stood up and… it was gonna get into a fight,” Crockett told The Independent of the May 17 spat caught on camera.

“The bigger story that kind of emerged from this was what women of color face at work,” she explained. “When you’re by yourself, people take liberties, but when they realize that you’re not by yourself, it definitely puts them in a different light and puts them in a different stance.”

rawstory.com

Jay C Jun 18, 2024 • 3:30:50pm

re: #30 retired cynic

re: #50 garzooma

What I (also) find fascinating is that while the Battle of Waterloo seems unfathomably distant in time, when that photo of the veteran and his wife was taken, it was just 35 years previously. IOW, only two years more-distant in time than Desert Storm is to us in 2024.* And Old Scruffy there might not even be that *old* - if he had fought with Wellington as a young recruit, he might “only” be about 60.

*and plenty of veterans of that fight (Americans, anyway) are still around.

Belafon Jun 18, 2024 • 3:31:18pm

re: #71 (((Archangel1)))

Didn’t someone link on one of the prior pages a way to get Google to show in the old classic way? Like with some link modifier? Could have sworn I saw that here…

udm14.com

William Lewis Jun 18, 2024 • 3:31:36pm

And now for the best new coffee ad in ages…

GREEN DAY X @punkbunnycoffee

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Jun 18, 2024 • 3:35:46pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile…

Tony Perkins Says The Biden Administration Is ‘Aligned With The Devil.

I’m looking forward to the Tenth Crusade. Christian slaughter and mayhem to “purify” the nation. This time for sure.

Joe Bacon ✅ Jun 18, 2024 • 3:37:05pm

GOP lawmaker says day care is driving a ‘stake through the heart’ of traditional families

A Kansas Republican is not happy at the idea of a day care assistance credit in the state — and explained it’s bad policy because the state shouldn’t “indoctrinate” children and “put mothers to work.”

The progressive news service Heartland Signal obtained the recording of state Sen. Mark Steffen comments, in which he said it’s “not the platform of the Republican Party to emphasize daycare and the separation of children from their parents.”

“This could have just as easily been a child tax credit,” he said. “And yet the decision was made to drive a further wedge into our Kansas traditional families, and that decision was made by the people who put their name on this bill. And you have to take credit for that, you have to take blame for that. There has to be a point where this stops.”

Someone tell that clown that the days when Dad put 8 hours in the mill and Mom stayed home are long gone.

rawstory.com

Charles Johnson Jun 18, 2024 • 3:39:23pm

Cleaning out old magazines, and found this from 2016.

Evergreen.

— Joanne Freeman (@jbf1755.bsky.social) 2024-06-18T22:21:08.335Z

Eventual Carrion Jun 18, 2024 • 3:41:08pm

re: #50 garzooma

While we’re at it, here’s a photograph of the Duke of Wellington, taken in 1844:

[Embedded content]

And here’s a picture of Duke Ellington

darthstar Jun 18, 2024 • 3:44:05pm

Mastodon

sizzzzlerz Jun 18, 2024 • 3:44:26pm

re: #58 Joe Bacon ✅

he said it’s “not the platform of the Republican Party to emphasize daycare and the separation of children from their parents.”

Except for that time when you separated little brown children from their parents and couldn’t even be bothered to write down which child came from which parent. Oh, and you kept the children in little cells.

A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS Jun 18, 2024 • 3:46:20pm

re: #31 aatharuv

California does have two Democrat elections, but it sometimes has two Republican elections, and most of the time it has Democrat Republican elections.

Something like rank order voting (like what they have in Alaska I believe) is more likely to get a voting result that most people find acceptable. *And I know there are theorems that say no voting system can eliminate the spoiler effect”

In such a system, the Green at heart, can always put the Green as their first preference candidate and list the Democrat as their second preference. There might be a few people who are Stein or bust, but many of them are likely to vote for a Democrat as their second preference. (Despite the Mises takeover of the Libertarians, that’s still true for a fair number of them too.)

These days almost always dem vs. dem in statewide elections. Fine with me.

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Jun 18, 2024 • 3:50:28pm

South Korean soldiers fire warning shots after North Korean troops cross border, apparently in error (Associated Press)

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — South Korean troops fired warning shots to repel North Korean soldiers who briefly crossed the rivals’ heavily fortified land border Tuesday for the second time this month, the South’s military said. Both incursions were believed to be unintentional.

Around 20 to 30 North Korean soldiers who were doing construction work crossed the military demarcation line that serves as the border between the two countries in the Demilitarized Zone, according to South Korea’s Joint Chiefs of Staff. The soldiers retreated after the South broadcasted warnings and fired warning shots, and the South’s military didn’t spot any suspicious activity after that, the joint chiefs said.

(more)

🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 Jun 18, 2024 • 3:55:35pm

I just watched this in VR. This was the only more accessible version I could find. Tamir Rice’s mom Samaria at 11:18

VR Experiences: Traveling While Black

jaunte Jun 18, 2024 • 3:58:52pm

Andrea Grimes @andreagrimes.bsky.social

Literally last week, Trump met with a group that calls abortion “child sacrifice” to express his support for their work.

Now, The Hill is suggesting that ole crafty Don, king of smart messaging, is “giving moderates breathing room” on abortion.
thehill.com

The Danbury Institute:
“…Former President Donald Trump said Monday that if reelected he plans to work “side by side” with a newly formed religious organization that says abortion is the “greatest atrocity facing” the United States and should be “eradicated entirely.”missouriindependent.com

sizzzzlerz Jun 18, 2024 • 4:01:56pm

re: #50 garzooma

While we’re at it, here’s a photograph of the Duke of Wellington, taken in 1844:

[Embedded content]

2024, in addition to being the 209th anniversary of the Battle of Waterloo, is also the 50th anniversary of the release of the song, Waterloo, thus launching the careers of the group ABBA. I will leave it to you to decide which is the more significant event of the two.

Abba - Waterloo

The Ghost of a Flea Jun 18, 2024 • 4:07:50pm

Jesus, this is terrible. Just crushing. A journalist shot in the eye by Minneapolis police during the George Floyd protests is dying from her injury, and is now in hospice care.

www.everythingishorrible.net/p/please-hel...

— Radley Balko (@radleybalko.bsky.social) 2024-06-18T20:41:44.469Z

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Jun 18, 2024 • 4:14:08pm

Wonkette, three hours ago

I Do Not Think Marsha Blackburn Has Read ‘The Stepford Wives’

Tennessee Senator Marsha Blackburn popped by Fox News to discuss “How Did Republican Women End Up Like This?” Rebecca Traister’s latest New York Magazine article on the inherent contradictions of being a Republican woman running for office and trying to look could-kill-a-puppy tough while also giving Stepford.

Asked by Martha MacCallum what she thought of the article, Blackburn claimed to have “laughed all the way through it” — apparently so fervently that she failed to comprehend any part.

Blackburn said:

“Martha, I laughed all the way through this article because I thought the Left absolutely requires submission of women to their ideology, and their goal is to really erase the lines of gender. And they would love to be able to do that, but they require that you submit. And if you ever challenge them, if you ever push back on them, then they are going to cut you out. They cannot stand strong, conservative, independent-minded women who really like being female, who really like being a mom, who really like being a woman. That does not fit their template. You know, I look at the Left sometimes and I say they are the Stepford Wives of the Leftist ideology because you have to come right into lockstep. You cannot deviate if you’re going to be a female leader on the Left.

(more)

Belafon Jun 18, 2024 • 4:25:51pm

‘I love Milwaukee’: Trump campaign denies reports he was planning to stay in Chicago during convention https://t.co/yMvGd2482A

— POLITICO (@politico) June 18, 2024

Eclectic Cyborg Jun 18, 2024 • 4:42:33pm

re: #58 Joe Bacon ✅

“It’s not the platform of the Republican Party to emphasize daycare and the separation of children from their parents.”

But it IS the platform of the Republican Party to not pay parents a living wage and dismantle any and all social programs that might help them, which is kind of the same thing.

darthstar Jun 18, 2024 • 4:47:53pm

re: #70 Belafon

He’s not staying in Milwaukee unless someone buys him a mansion for the week.

Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines Jun 18, 2024 • 4:53:12pm

Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines Jun 18, 2024 • 5:01:22pm

Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅ Jun 18, 2024 • 5:03:03pm

re: #73 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

The suspended child lives in Canada, right?

Eclectic Cyborg Jun 18, 2024 • 5:03:36pm

I was just reading up on Linda Tirado. She got a $600 000 settlement from the City of Minneapolis but has since lost all of it because of her medical expenses related to the injury.

This country fucking infuriates me sometimes.

jeffreyw Jun 18, 2024 • 5:04:29pm

Mastodon

🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 Jun 18, 2024 • 5:07:30pm

Epidemics that didn’t happen.

Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅ Jun 18, 2024 • 5:08:48pm

re: #77 jeffreyw

Real?

Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅ Jun 18, 2024 • 5:10:05pm

re: #78 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

When Dengue hits ‘murica, we fucked. And it will.

steve_davis Jun 18, 2024 • 5:11:01pm

continuing my quest watching found footage movies. The Tunnel is actually entertaining. A small news crew goes into the Sydney underground where homeless people have been disappearing. Needless to say, it’s a bad move! Imagine Kolchak, Night Stalker, if they’d had more of a budget to work with.

Eclectic Cyborg Jun 18, 2024 • 5:12:22pm

re: #80 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

There is a vaccine for Dengue, but you can only get it once you’ve had the disease at least once.

Joe Bacon ✅ Jun 18, 2024 • 5:18:02pm

Ah Rafael always the inept fool!

Ted Cruz’s secret playbook found in Senate refectory — and posted online

A playbook belonging to Republican Sen. Ted Cruz — which appears to show how he aims to raise cash to get him reelected for another term in office — was found in the Senate refectory and scooped up by a reporter who posted it online.

Pablo Manríquez, co-publisher of “Capitol Press” and who describes himself on X as a “hill reporter and oil painter,” landed on the tranche of briefing papers that contain innocuous information about the weather in New York this week, but also phone numbers and addresses of such notables such as billionaire Ron Lauder and Wall Street scion John Loeb.

“Someone, presumably a staffer, left a folder full of briefing documents on TED CRUZ donors in the Senate Refectory,” Manríquez wrote on X. He then posted a thread of some of the senator’s detailed itinerary and talking points to schmooze would-be deep-pocketed donors.

Cruz, 53, is being challenged by 40-year-old Rep. Colin Allred (D-TX), who served three terms in office and, before becoming a civil rights attorney, played four seasons in the NFL.

The documents offer a glimpse into the methods and tidbits that Cruz is prompted to bring up, as well as specific dollar amounts he should seek from each person. The document also coaches him on what to say during the meetups.

Raw Story reached out to Cruz’s reps Tuesday night and didn’t receive a response as of publishing.

The documents outline a busy week for the Texas senator.

In D.C., the documents show Cruz is to appear at a Capitol Grille dinner, and will hope to compel eight donors who’ve pledged $19,500. So far, they’ve paid nothing.

On Wednesday, Cruz will head up to New York City to lunch with Lauder at the posh eatery Cipriani. He’s then expected to meet with Loeb at the Knickerbocker Club.

Afterward, Cruz’s plans call for heading to billionaire Mike Novogratz’s home, the address of which appears unredacted.

When Manríquez was challenged about posting all the documents on his feed would effectively force Cruz’s camp to alter their schedule, he seemed unbothered.

“Not sure why this was revealed here but if the intent was to confront Cruz [sic], you’ve [sic] just ensured they change literally every time and location,” writes @JefeJengibre.

Manríquez wrote back: “Then he should give me an exclusive on all his donor relations, as a thank you.”

Cruz is hunting for financial support in New York City, where he once slammed for its questionable “values.”

Cruz said, “there are many, many wonderful, wonderful working men and women in the state of New York, but everyone understands that the values in New York City are socially liberal or pro-abortion or pro- gay-marriage, [and] focus around money and the media.”

The dig prompted outcry throughout the city and a rare pledge of support for then-candidate Donald Trump.

rawstory.com

Unabogie Jun 18, 2024 • 5:19:34pm

re: #77 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

I’m calling BS because my cycling habit is pretty damn expensive (I know, by choice) and bikes are not free of maintenance. Also, people on bikes get injured sometimes. Also, the nemeses of people on bikes are not greedy bankers, but ordinary drivers who don’t pay attention or get angry if a bike is front of them at a stop sign.

Vicious Babushka Jun 18, 2024 • 5:28:26pm

Mastodon

jeffreyw Jun 18, 2024 • 5:31:06pm

do I NEED a tiny anvil????

absolutely not.

do I WANT this tiny anvil???

I would die for it

— Bree (half of Kit Rocha) (@mostlybree.kitrocha.com) 2024-06-18T18:29:09.266Z

Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines Jun 18, 2024 • 5:31:08pm

Bannon vows to keep fighting:

darthstar Jun 18, 2024 • 5:33:56pm

The media talking about Jenna Ellis pleading not guilty in Arizona like it means anything. As soon as she realizes how much prison time she’s facing she’ll take a plea deal just like she did in Georgia.

Joe Bacon ✅ Jun 18, 2024 • 5:34:55pm

re: #87 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Fill the tub with Lysol and make Bannon soak in it for an hour.

EstebanTornado1963 Jun 18, 2024 • 5:35:17pm

re: #31 aatharuv

Democrat in the way you use it is a pejorative.

Patricia Kayden Jun 18, 2024 • 5:40:50pm

Joe Bacon ✅ Jun 18, 2024 • 5:41:12pm

Patricia Kayden Jun 18, 2024 • 5:41:19pm

The Ghost of a Flea Jun 18, 2024 • 5:42:47pm

re: #85 Vicious Babushka

Given that Greenblatt is both dismissive of non-ZIonist Jews and has specifically changed the definition of “antisemitism” as policed by the ADL to fit his own understanding…yes, there is actually a good reason to note that the organization isn’t a reliable source.

But the ADL acknowledged in a statement to the Forward that it significantly broadened its definition of antisemitic incidents following the Oct. 7 Hamas attack to include rallies that feature “anti-Zionist chants and slogans,” events that appear to account for around 1,317 of the total count.

This gets worse when you consider how the ADL has started giving passes to antisemites like Elon Musk if those antisemities endorse statements that serve the government of Israel.

This friction is large enough that individuals within the ADL have noted the transition in priorities.

Patricia Kayden Jun 18, 2024 • 5:48:07pm

re: #68 The Ghost of a Flea

I support her on Patreon. Just awful!

darthstar Jun 18, 2024 • 5:49:04pm

Turns out pedo-pastor is a Trumper…even prayed with the orange fucker.

Patricia Kayden Jun 18, 2024 • 5:50:18pm

re: #71 Eclectic Cyborg

Yet people keep voting for Republicans despite the fact that they do nothing to help working people. Go figure.

Charles Johnson Jun 18, 2024 • 5:51:28pm

re: #94 The Ghost of a Flea

Given that Greenblatt is both dismissive of non-ZIonist Jews and has specifically changed the definition of “antisemitism” as policed by the ADL to fit his own understanding…yes, there is actually a good reason to note that the organization isn’t a reliable source.

But the ADL acknowledged in a statement to the Forward that it significantly broadened its definition of antisemitic incidents following the Oct. 7 Hamas attack to include rallies that feature “anti-Zionist chants and slogans,” events that appear to account for around 1,317 of the total count.

This gets worse when you consider how the ADL has started giving passes to antisemites like Elon Musk if those antisemities endorse statements that serve the government of Israel.

This friction is large enough that individuals within the ADL have noted the transition in priorities.

The way Greenblatt continues giving Elon Musk a pass is very disturbing. I can’t conceive of a strategy that could possibly make that acceptable, when Musk is promoting the absolute fucking worst antisemites on the internet.

It’s not like Musk is trying to hide this.

darthstar Jun 18, 2024 • 5:55:05pm

Mastodon

100

jeffreyw Jun 18, 2024 • 5:56:17pm

Janelle Monae

— Nothings Monstered (@nothingsmonstrd.bsky.social) 2024-06-18T17:23:48.879Z

101

darthstar Jun 18, 2024 • 5:57:10pm

re: #100 jeffreyw

Move over furries…there’s a new fetish in town.

102

Belafon Jun 18, 2024 • 5:58:06pm

re: #99 darthstar

Because that would require acknowledging that that they were wrong and that they would have to work with others.

103

Belafon Jun 18, 2024 • 5:59:51pm

re: #101 darthstar

Move over furries…there’s a new fetish in town.

104

jeffreyw Jun 18, 2024 • 6:00:09pm

💙💙💙💙💙

— C Hanna (@chcowgirl.bsky.social) 2024-06-18T19:37:25.794Z

105

🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 Jun 18, 2024 • 6:02:00pm

How 3M Discovered, Then Concealed, the Dangers of Forever Chemicals
Kris Hansen had worked as a chemist at the 3M Corporation for about a year when her boss, an affable senior scientist named Jim Johnson, gave her a strange assignment. 3M had invented Scotch Tape and Post-it notes; it sold everything from sandpaper to kitchen sponges. But on this day, in 1997, Johnson wanted Hansen to test human blood for chemical contamination.

Several of 3M’s most successful products contained man-made compounds called fluorochemicals. In a spray called Scotchgard, fluorochemicals protected leather and fabric from stains. In a coating known as Scotchban, they prevented food packaging from getting soggy. In a soapy foam used by firefighters, they helped extinguish jet-fuel fires. Johnson explained to Hansen that one of the company’s fluorochemicals, PFOS—short for perfluorooctanesulfonic acid—often found its way into the bodies of 3M factory workers. Although he said that they were unharmed, he had recently hired an outside lab to measure the levels in their blood. The lab had just reported something odd, however. For the sake of comparison, it had tested blood samples from the American Red Cross, which came from the general population and should have been free of fluorochemicals. Instead, it kept finding a contaminant in the blood.

Johnson asked Hansen to figure out whether the lab had made a mistake. Detecting trace levels of chemicals was her specialty: she had recently written a doctoral dissertation about tiny particles in the atmosphere. Hansen’s team of lab technicians and junior scientists fetched a blood sample from a lab-supply company and prepped it for analysis. Then Hansen switched on an oven-size box known as a mass spectrometer, which weighs molecules so that scientists can identify them.

As the lab equipment hummed around her, Hansen loaded a sample into the machine. A graph appeared on the mass spectrometer’s display; it suggested that there was a compound in the blood that could be PFOS. That’s weird, Hansen thought. Why would a chemical produced by 3M show up in people who had never worked for the company?

Hansen didn’t want to share her results until she was certain that they were correct, so she and her team spent several weeks analyzing more blood, often in time-consuming overnight tests. All the samples appeared to be contaminated. When Hansen used a more precise method, liquid chromatography, the results left little doubt that the chemical in the Red Cross blood was PFOS.

Hansen now felt obligated to update her boss. Johnson was a towering, bearded man, and she liked him: he seemed to trust her expertise, and he found something to laugh about in most conversations. But, when she shared her findings, his response was cryptic. “This changes everything,” he said. Before she could ask him what he meant, he went into his office and closed the door.

newyorker.com If you hit a paywall, use your browser’s private mode.

106

darthstar Jun 18, 2024 • 6:02:07pm

Willie Mays died today.

107

silverdolphin Jun 18, 2024 • 6:04:44pm

Netanyahu Attacks Biden: ‘Inconceivable’ to Hold Back Arms Shipments to Israel

The US says there are no delayed shipments. Beyond the one of 1000 pound bombs, all other shipments are going through. Looks like Bibi is lying in order to give the GOP a tool to rile up the US right, just in time for his foray into the halls of Congress, containing many of the very anti-semites that would love to see Israel destroyed (Musk?) If Biden was actually delaying weapons shipments like this, I’d expect he would be saying to to molify his left flank. Heck, even McConnell is out there implying Biden does not care about Israel.

108

🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 Jun 18, 2024 • 6:05:46pm

109

silverdolphin Jun 18, 2024 • 6:09:05pm

‘Lebanon, Part of the Promised Land’: Israel’s Messianic Right Wing Targets New Territory for Settlements

The same groups that first eyed settlements in the West Bank in the 70s is now looking to expand Israel into Lebanon. They succeeded with the former so I would not be surprised to begin hearing about the need for the latter.

110

BeenHereAwhile Jun 18, 2024 • 6:12:20pm

re: #45 Belafon

[Embedded content]

And what we’re telling them is no, they and the Palestinians don’t have time to wait this out. Sheldon Anderson’s wife is going to dump a lot of money on Trump with the demand that he allow Israel to clear out the West Bank. Trump won’t stop Netanyahu, he will let him go far beyond what is happening now. And do the kids think they will live the 80 years it will take to clear out the damage Republicans will do?

They can scream all they want, but they still have to choose between the bus and not getting anywhere.

Miriam Adelson is updating her public profile with her purchase of the Dallas Mavericks. Expect that being an owner of a NBA team, in addition to being s good investment, the ownership, will soften her image as an international casino & hotel owner. She’’d already attended Maverick games.

111

The Ghost of a Flea Jun 18, 2024 • 6:12:59pm

re: #107 silverdolphin

Netanyahu Attacks Biden: ‘Inconceivable’ to Hold Back Arms Shipments to Israel

The US says there are no delayed shipments. Beyond the one of 1000 pound bombs, all other shipments are going through. Looks like Bibi is lying in order to give the GOP a tool to rile up the US right, just in time for his foray into the halls of Congress, containing many of the very anti-semites that would love to see Israel destroyed (Musk?) If Biden was actually delaying weapons shipments like this, I’d expect he would be saying to to molify his left flank. Heck, even McConnell is out there implying Biden does not care about Israel.

Your reading is America-centric and misses that Netanyahu is part of a social-political project to cultivate reactionary grievance that parallels US reactonary grievance in it’s entitlement: to this view, it is an outrage that any weapon shipment would be withheld because axiomatically the Netanyahu administration is entitled to whatever it demands, to be used as it sees fit without criticism. The bombs must not only be delivered, but their usage praised…exactly as reactionary Americans want to valorize things like drone strikes…because the real sin is to question the cult of action.

The two reactionary grievances speak to one another because they hold a common cause—their own total entitlement, to the point that their national fellows are not truly “American” or “Israeli”—that has been building over decades of internal myth-making about stabs in the back and stolen patrimony…

re: #109 silverdolphin

‘Lebanon, Part of the Promised Land’: Israel’s Messianic Right Wing Targets New Territory for Settlements

The same groups that first eyed settlements in the West Bank in the 70s is now looking to expand Israel into Lebanon. They succeeded with the former so I would not be surprised to begin hearing about the need for the latter.

(since you added this since I started this post)…case in point.

112

goddamnedfrank Jun 18, 2024 • 6:15:02pm

For what it’s worth here’s the letter the ADL sent to USC seeking to have Asna Tabassum removed as Valedictorian, it is absolutely riddled with flagrant lies and misrepresentations.

Spy Auto

This article has been archived.
Comments are closed.

Jump to top

The Bob Cesca Podcast: Where’s Lorenzo?

► LGF Headlines

► Top 10 Comments

► Bottom Comments

► Recent Comments

► Tools/Info

► Tag Cloud