1 Kragar  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:54:36pm

No link about the Muslim hit list of Jews in UK?

2 Kragar  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:56:07pm

Hate hit list

FEARS grew last night that hate-filled Islamic extremists are drawing up a “hit list” of Britain’s leading Jews — bringing the Middle East conflict terrifyingly close to home.

3 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:56:11pm

re: #1 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

No link about the Muslim hit list of Jews in UK?

If it was a Jewish hit list of Muslims, then it would be newsworthy.

4 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:56:11pm
Bushisms over the years

$20 says we never see a list like this for 0bama.

5 jaunte  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:57:04pm

AP squeezing the last possible readership juice out of Bush.

6 lesbianrainforest  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:57:08pm

Dang. I'll take the laptops and lay the points.

7 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:58:16pm

re: #4 Sharmuta

$20 says we never see a list like this for 0bama.

Err, um, ahh, you uh, might, er, be uhh, right about, um, that.

8 jonturner  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:58:36pm

I'm not normally interested in foreign (to me) language films, but I just spotted this review and the film looks interesting: Feux Rouges (fr. "Red Lights")
"A French Film Metaphorically Dares To Stand Up To Islam"
Any Lizards seen it? If so, would you recommend it or not?

9 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:58:53pm

re: #4 Sharmuta

$20 says we never see a list like this for 0bama.

You will have to pay the $20 for the new Holy Messiah-King's Big Red Book.

10 doppelganglander  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:58:54pm

This is sort of like an open thread, so I'll post it here:

Attention, Atlanta-area lizards! This Sunday, being the second Sunday of the month, a meet-up is scheduled at our usual secret hideout. Anyone in the metro area (or beyond, if you're willing to travel) is welcome. Please email me for further information.

11 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:59:28pm

re: #3 Alouette

If it was a Jewish hit list of Muslims, then it would be newsworthy.

It will still be reported as either Israel's fault, or a "cycle of violence, everyone is equally at fault" thing.

Never will they put two and two together and think, "Wow, the Jews in the UK are just sitting here, and out of the blue Muslims threaten them with death. Gee, I wonder if things are the same in Israel and that's why all the problems?"

12 Shug  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:59:57pm

re: #4 Sharmuta

$20 says we never see a list like this for 0bama.

uh uuh uh
uhhhh unn uhhh
uh uuuuuh ummm uhhh

pay up

13 Kragar  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:59:58pm

re: #4 Sharmuta

$20 says we never see a list like this for 0bama.

Um, ah, oh, only takes up so much print

14 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:00:02pm

re: #5 jaunte

AP squeezing the last possible readership juice out of Bush.

That will be the theme of the next 4 years, blame it all on Bush.

15 loppyd  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:00:13pm

From Jammie's link:


Sponsoring organizations and endorsers: ANSWER Coalition, Muslim American Society Freedom, Free Palestine Alliance, American Muslim Task Force, National Council of Arab Americans, Al-Awda - International Palestine Right to Return Coalition, CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations), American Muslims for Palestine, American Muslim Alliance, U.S. Palestinian Community Network (USPCN), Ramsey Clark, Cynthia McKinney, Howard Zinn, Muslimah Writers' Alliance, The National Assembly to End the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars and Occupations, Voters for Peace, Code Pink, Action Center for Justice, International Socialist Organization, Party for Socialism and Liberation (PSL), Philippine Peasant Support Network (Pesante)-USA, New York City Labor Against the War (NYCLAW), and hundreds of others.

All the usual suspects.

16 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:00:15pm
As laptops dominate, desktop PCs face obsolescence %P% Technology %P% Reuters

I just got a new laptop, with twice as much memory and larger HD than my desktop. It has a 17" screen, and my desktop has a 19" monitor.

17 Digital Display  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:00:24pm

Anybody else see Ann Coulter on the today show this morning?

18 avanti  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:00:51pm

re: #6 lesbianrainforest

Dang. I'll take the laptops and lay the points.

I need a new Apple wheel lap top

19 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:00:54pm

re: #17 HoosierHoops

Anybody else see Ann Coulter on the today show this morning?

What show? ;)

20 loppyd  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:01:17pm

re: #17 HoosierHoops

Anybody else see Ann Coulter on the today show this morning?

I saw the interview linked on Hot Air. It was goooood!

21 Shug  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:01:26pm

One Bushism I can live with

I can hear you
The rest of the world hears you
and the people who knocked down these buildings ....will hear from all of us soon !

Thanks Mr President for keeping this country safe since 9/11

22 jaunte  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:01:40pm

Get your cameras and recorders ready. The ANSWER crazies are planning lots of gatherings around the country:
[Link: answer.pephost.org...]

23 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:01:43pm

re: #17 HoosierHoops

I'd kinda like to see Coulter and Joe the Plumber go away. I find them a little embarrassing.

24 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:01:48pm

Ideology Keeps GOP From Reaching Out

Thus, when Democrats try to broaden their appeal, they are also addressing middle-of-the-road voters in their own party. Republicans who want to reach out have to fight their party, which is overwhelmingly inclined to stick with the true conservative faith.

That's the problem right there- what is the "true conservative faith" these days?

25 loppyd  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:01:55pm

re: #21 Shug

One Bushism I can live with

I can hear you
The rest of the world hears you
and the people who knocked down these buildings ....will hear from all of us soon !

Thanks Mr President for keeping this country safe since 9/11

Liberals do not like to be reminded of that minor detail.

26 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:02:12pm

re: #4 Sharmuta

$20 says we never see a list like this for 0bama.

"Uh...er...er...um...."

27 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:02:37pm

re: #7 jwb7605

Err, um, ahh, you uh, might, er, be uhh, right about, um, that.

Dagnabit. Beat me by a country mile.

28 Digital Display  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:02:47pm

re: #10 doppelganglander

This is sort of like an open thread, so I'll post it here:

Attention, Atlanta-area lizards! This Sunday, being the second Sunday of the month, a meet-up is scheduled at our usual secret hideout. Anyone in the metro area (or beyond, if you're willing to travel) is welcome. Please email me for further information.

Where the heck is our in house pirate loflyer? Is he going this month?

29 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:02:57pm

re: #4 Sharmuta

$20 says we never see a list like this for 0bama.

Compiled and promoted by the msm.

30 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:03:01pm

re: #25 loppyd

Liberals do not like to be reminded of that minor detail.

Besides, as soon as Obama gets Bin Laden, the war on terror will be over.

unfortunately, that is not sarcasm.

31 Shug  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:03:02pm
Samuel J. Wurzelbacher (WUR'-zuhl-bah-kur) says he'll spend 10 days covering the fighting.

He tells WNWO-TV in Toledo that he wants to let Israel's "'Average Joos' share their story."

Fixed

32 loppyd  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:03:11pm

re: #23 Killgore Trout

I'd kinda like to see Coulter and Joe the Plumber go away. I find them a little embarrassing.

She's not my favorite by any stretch, but she took Matt the Rat Lauer to task this morning and that is always good in my book.

33 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:03:20pm

re: #22 jaunte

Lots of protests planned in the UK too. It's really tough to watch the loss of life in Gaza but the up side is the the Islamists and Leftists start to show thier true colors.

34 rawmuse  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:03:44pm

re: #16 Alouette

I just got a new laptop, with twice as much memory and larger HD than my desktop. It has a 17" screen, and my desktop has a 19" monitor.

I have pre ordered the new MacBookPro. Seems like yesterday I got the one on which I type this. It was 2 years ago. Time flies.

35 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:03:55pm

re: #24 Sharmuta

Ideology Keeps GOP From Reaching Out

That's the problem right there- what is the "true conservative faith" these days?

It ain't represented by Bush or McCain, that's for sure. Time for the mantle to be taken up by the Governor of Alaska.

36 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:04:21pm
37 rawmuse  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:04:32pm

re: #28 HoosierHoops

Where the heck is our in house pirate loflyer? Is he going this month?

Heard he got the stick.

38 jaunte  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:05:09pm

re: #33 Killgore Trout

Yes, it looks a lot like shocked rage that Jews have the temerity to fight back.

39 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:05:18pm

re: #18 avanti

I need a new Apple wheel lap top

Loks like a hell of a stupid way to enter text. And I like the click wheel on my iPod.

40 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:05:18pm

re: #32 loppyd

She's not my favorite by any stretch, but she took Matt the Rat Lauer to task this morning and that is always good in my book.

O'Reilly tried to give her advice on the Factor a few minutes ago.
She said "I do my own research, and I don't take advice from people who sell fewer books than me".

O'Reilly had no comeback.

41 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:05:24pm

re: #24 Sharmuta

what is the "true conservative faith" these days?


I don't know but I think too many are clinging to the old school culture wars/family values thing. I don't think that's the way of the future.

42 jcm  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:05:59pm

Bollywood's goodbye to George W. Bush? A film that makes fun of him

In the story, Bush has agreed to shake the hand of one young person who represents promise for India’s future – and officials at the U.S. Consulate in Mumbai proceed to put the candidates through a battery of wacky tests to choose a winner.


Somehow I think GWB would get a kick out if it.

43 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:06:47pm

Hi.

44 avanti  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:06:49pm

re: #19 FurryOldGuyJeans

What show? ;)

Yea, caught it on Media matters

45 Basho  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:07:04pm

re: #42 jcm

Bollywood's goodbye to George W. Bush? A film that makes fun of him


Somehow I think GWB would get a kick out if it.

Then he would be the first to enjoy a bollywood film.

46 albusteve  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:07:07pm

re: #23 Killgore Trout

I'd kinda like to see Coulter and Joe the Plumber go away. I find them a little embarrassing.

I agree..too much theater...it gets old fast

47 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:07:35pm

re: #38 jaunte

...and all of the bravado about destroying Israel and killing the Jews just devolves into a temper tantrum like someone drew a cartoon or something. Islamists seething in the streets is the best publicity we could hope for.

48 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:07:50pm

re: #43 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hi.

I'm sorry, that's not inclusive or outreach-ish enough. I'm going to have to ask you to leave the conservative movement.

49 Digital Display  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:07:56pm

re: #20 loppyd

I saw the interview linked on Hot Air. It was goooood!

I was impressed...I'm willing to bet she is just a sharp witted woman that would be a lot of fun to be around.. I like her..but I've only watched her maybe twice before.

50 avanti  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:08:38pm

re: #41 Killgore Trout

I don't know but I think too many are clinging to the old school culture wars/family values thing. I don't think that's the way of the future.

That could get this moderate's vote.(Lose the culture wars thing, keep the fiscal conservitive)

51 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:08:42pm

re: #42 jcm

He should. I'll watch it.

52 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:08:43pm

re: #46 albusteve

I agree..too much theater...it gets old fast

I hope you guys enjoy Senator Al Franken.

53 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:08:44pm

re: #48 OldLineTexan

I'm sorry, that's not inclusive or outreach-ish enough. I'm going to have to ask you to leave the conservative movement.

K

54 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:08:50pm

re: #37 rawmuse

What? When and why?

55 Render  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:09:02pm

"On both price and performance, laptops are so competitive now it's surprising they weren't able to catch up with desktops even earlier," said iSuppli analyst Peter Lin."

um bullcoughshit ahem...

Obsolete desktops can be upgraded. Obsolete laptops become four figure paperweights.

A brand new laptop comparable to my two year old desktop is over twice the price.

OWNER
SHIP,
R

56 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:09:08pm

re: #48 OldLineTexan

I'm sorry, that's not inclusive or outreach-ish enough. I'm going to have to ask you to leave the conservative movement.

Somehow, that exactly describes my feelings on the Republican party.

57 stuiec  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:09:21pm

re: #23 Killgore Trout

I'd kinda like to see Coulter and Joe the Plumber go away. I find them a little embarrassing.

Isn't that a little odd? I mean, they don't speak for you and no one presumes that you share their views, so why would you feel embarrassment over them?

Put it this way: I am a Jew, so I feel embarrassed by Bernard Madoff for putting Jews in a bad light, not to mention thieving from Elie Wiesel and other charitable endeavors (on top of mere larceny from ordinary people and companies). What's the connection between you on the one hand and Ann Coulter and Joe the Plumber on the other that you should feel embarrassed by anything they say or do?

58 CommonCents  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:09:25pm

As a steady gamer and software programmer, desktop PC's will not become obsolete. The laptop is neat, but for horsepower, peripherals, and component upgrades/replacements the desktop is still king.

59 Digital Display  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:09:30pm

re: #43 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hi.


Hi Slacker!
LOL

60 jaunte  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:09:32pm

re: #47 Killgore Trout

Do you know if the tape of that Ft. Lauderdale protestor screaming about ovens has been played in any other major media than Fox news?

61 rawmuse  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:09:59pm

re: #54 Bubblehead II

What? When and why?

Something he wrote got Stinky's attention. At least a week ago.

62 avanti  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:10:22pm

re: #39 OldLineTexan

Loks like a hell of a stupid way to enter text. And I like the click wheel on my iPod.

It was a spoof piece.

63 albusteve  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:10:32pm

re: #52 OldLineTexan

I hope you guys enjoy Senator Al Franken.


why do you say that?...is the ideological fight taking place on television?

64 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:10:37pm

re: #41 Killgore Trout

I don't know but I think too many are clinging to the old school culture wars/family values thing. I don't think that's the way of the future.

It's interesting, because I was talking to a lady I know just this morning about this issue. I don't know what's so difficult about individual rights and the rule of law, but maybe it's just me.

65 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:10:42pm

re: #56 jwb7605

Somehow, that exactly describes my feelings on the Republican party.

Well, the Paulians are always recruiting, I suppose. I could join the Democrat Party, but I am not really sure WTF they are supposed to be about, either.

Meanwhile, I continue to cling bitterly.

Such is life.

66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:11:04pm

re: #59 HoosierHoops

Hi Slacker!
LOL

Was going to chat with you guys in a bar, then the battery died on Mr. Laptop.

My desktop never died on me.

67 rawmuse  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:11:09pm

re: #58 CommonCents

Agreed. I travel a fair amount.

68 Basho  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:11:23pm

re: #62 avanti

I enjoyed it. Especially when the mac fanboy showed up ;)

69 loppyd  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:11:26pm

re: #40 jwb7605

O'Reilly tried to give her advice on the Factor a few minutes ago.
She said "I do my own research, and I don't take advice from people who sell fewer books than me".

O'Reilly had no comeback.

Shutting O'Reilly up is no small feat.

70 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:11:57pm

re: #63 albusteve

[fanger]

71 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:12:07pm

re: #45 Basho

Then he would be the first to enjoy a bollywood film.

I'm sorry, but I think you're not getting the hang of 'em.

And yes, that's a video, but part and parcel of the Bollywood tradition...

72 doppelganglander  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:12:42pm

re: #61 rawmuse

Something he wrote got Stinky's attention. At least a week ago.

I had no idea. I've emailed him so I hope to hear his side of things. Meanwhile, it's off to the archives.

73 albusteve  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:12:45pm

re: #70 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

[fanger]

whats fanger?

74 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:12:51pm

re: #40 jwb7605

Coulter punched Bill in the mouth?

75 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:13:10pm

re: #66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Was going to chat with you guys in a bar, then the battery died on Mr. Laptop.

My desktop never died on me.

I've never dropped my desktop, nor spilled coke on the hard drive.

And I've never accidently erased my old paper address book.

76 loppyd  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:13:11pm

re: #49 HoosierHoops

I was impressed...I'm willing to bet she is just a sharp witted woman that would be a lot of fun to be around.. I like her..but I've only watched her maybe twice before.

She is hated by the Left for being completely unapologetic for her views - many of which I agree with. Sometimes she can wear on me, though....

77 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:13:26pm

re: #73 albusteve

whats fanger?

That was for Sharmuta. Oops.

I love bars.

78 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:13:33pm

re: #63 albusteve

why do you say that?...is the ideological fight taking place on television?

Why yes...yes, it is. Like it or not, the real culture war is on the idiot box. Case in point: the meteoric rise and unlikely success of Barack Hussein Obama. A media product, all the way. A sound bite stretched into an entire "movement" consisting of people without enough interest in basic information to fill a thimble. A paucity of thought accompanied by an excess of emotion followed by the surety of disaster.

79 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:13:36pm

re: #57 stuiec

I find Ann mean spirited, angry and more than a little bigoted. That's not really an image I think conservatives or Republicans should embrace. Joe The Plumber is a gimmick. He asked a good question to Obama once but I really don't take him seriously. I might call him to fix my toilet but I don;t see him as an ideological icon. I ceartainly wouldn't watch him on TV and I'd almost certainly never vote for him.

80 Digital Display  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:13:41pm

re: #66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Was going to chat with you guys in a bar, then the battery died on Mr. Laptop.

My desktop never died on me.

I've always said a dead Battery is better than one that blows up...
/everybody from Sony just logged off..sorry guys

81 albusteve  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:13:52pm

re: #77 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That was for Sharmuta. Oops.

I love bars.

okay

82 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:13:53pm

re: #64 Sharmuta

[Fanger]

83 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:14:02pm

re: #60 jaunte

Nope, I think Fox News was it.

84 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:14:07pm

re: #62 avanti

It was a spoof piece.

I am disappointed. I really am.

85 avanti  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:14:10pm

re: #69 loppyd

Shutting O'Reilly up is no small feat.

I think she stays up at night thinking of outrageous things to say that will get her publicity.

86 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:14:23pm

re: #81 albusteve

okay

Really. Thought I did it right. Sigh.

87 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:14:27pm

You know, the media has been real good collecting all those Bushisms.

Somehow I sincerely doubt that they'll collect Obamanisms with the same relish.

Heck, Obama's malapropisms during just the past 18 months are sufficient to rival anything Bush had said in the past eight years.

88 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:14:43pm

ok, let's see......explore all the links......or just post for the sake of posting..........or get on with necessary tasks not related to this time stealing data trap............
/note to self : stop making sense ....

89 jcm  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:14:53pm

Watching Nothing But Commies news. Talking about the food shortages in Gaza. Problem I had was the pictures from inside a store.....
Stocked shelves.

90 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:15:00pm

re: #61 rawmuse

Damn. Guess I will have to go and hunt it down. Losing a lot of senior Lizards here lately. :-(

91 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:15:13pm

It is only 9:14. Really?

92 Shug  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:15:27pm

re: #69 loppyd

Shutting O'Reilly up is no small feat.

Just hand him a loofah

93 jaunte  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:15:38pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout

Thanks. I tried searching 'angry muslims in the news' but I just don't have enough lifetimes.

94 loppyd  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:15:43pm

re: #85 avanti

I think she stays up at night thinking of outrageous things to say that will get her publicity.

That is probably not untrue. :~)

95 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:15:47pm

re: #74 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Coulter punched Bill in the mouth?

Verbally. It was quite fun to watch, and a reason not to despise Coulter for being over the top. This was one of those times when over the top was the only way.
If you watch O'Reilly, even infrequently, you know what I mean.

96 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:15:59pm

re: #80 HoosierHoops

I've always said a dead Battery is better than one that blows up...
/everybody from Sony just logged off..sorry guys

It's bad juju to cheat the thermal limits of a combustible assembly.

97 albusteve  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:16:21pm

re: #78 OldLineTexan

Why yes...yes, it is. Like it or not, the real culture war is on the idiot box. Case in point: the meteoric rise and unlikely success of Barack Hussein Obama. A media product, all the way. A sound bite stretched into an entire "movement" consisting of people without enough interest in basic information to fill a thimble. A paucity of thought accompanied by an excess of emotion followed by the surety of disaster.

sounds disasterous...what do we do now?...maybe we should make television irrelevant and turn it off....you know...dont feed the animals?

98 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:16:52pm

Shame on You, Rick Warren

In November 2006, Warren made a trip to Syria and was granted an audience with the human toothbrush who has inherited control of that country and all its citizens. Bashar Assad, the dictator of Syria, is also a religious sectarian—his power base is confined to the Alawite sect—and in the intervals of murdering his critics in Lebanon, he does not expect to receive very many distinguished American or European guests. Of late, the most eminent I can think of have been David Duke, former grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, and George Galloway of Britain's so-called Respect Party, and I believe only Galloway—an old fan of Baathism in all its forms—got an audience with the Grand Toothbrush himself.

Thanks to David Duke- we can now play Six Degrees of Vlaams Belang.

99 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:16:59pm

re: #94 loppyd

That is probably not untrue. :~)

It seems to pay well for her.

100 Sizzlack  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:17:00pm
"I remember meeting a mother of a child who was abducted by the North Koreans right here in the Oval Office." — June 26, 2008, during a Rose Garden news briefing.

Kim Jong Il is one sneaky little bastard.

101 notutopia  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:17:42pm

Do any lizards remember during the Obama/Joe questioning and all the illegal searches to access his records by investigating into his personal background, if there was any mention of Joe the Plummer having served in the armed services? I seem to remember some mention of him having a background in the military. Anyone?
Here's a slightly more extensive piece on Samuel's upcoming job as civilian reporter in Israel from a difference source than above.
[Link: www.toledoonthemove.com...]

It says he will employed by PJTV.
[Link: www.pjtv.com...]

102 Digital Display  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:18:24pm

re: #91 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It is only 9:14. Really?

Nope 9:16..hey you are in the room..Duke is on..LGF is on line and room service is one button away.
life is good veggie

103 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:18:35pm

re: #97 albusteve

sounds disasterous...what do we do now?...maybe we should make television irrelevant and turn it off....you know...dont feed the animals?

I don't get my political views from TV, but many young proto-honcos think The Daily Show is reliable news.

104 albusteve  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:21:02pm

re: #103 OldLineTexan

I don't get my political views from TV, but many young proto-honcos think The Daily Show is reliable news.

proto honco...hearty laugh!...you're probably right
good one...

105 yochanan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:21:04pm

re: #69 loppyd

Shutting O'Reilly up is no small feat.

tranny meets hot air

106 lobo91  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:21:07pm

Ugh...could someone please explain to me why this asshole is still breathing?

Iraq's Sadr urges reprisals against US over Gaza war

NAJAF, Iraq (AFP) – The Shiite radical movement of Moqtada al-Sadr, which fought two wars with US troops in 2004, threatened on Wednesday to resume attacks on American targets inside Iraq over Washington's support for the Israeli assault on Gaza.

"I ask the Iraqi resistance to engage in revenge operations against the United States, the biggest partner of the Zionist enemy," Sadr said in a statement issued by his office in the central shrine city of Najaf.

He called on "all countries which host Israeli embassies on their territory to close down those missions which are the source of terrorism in Arab and Islamic countries as a sign of support for the Palestinian people."

107 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:22:14pm

re: #55 Render

"On both price and performance, laptops are so competitive now it's surprising they weren't able to catch up with desktops even earlier," said iSuppli analyst Peter Lin."

um bullcoughshit ahem...

Obsolete desktops can be upgraded. Obsolete laptops become four figure paperweights.

A brand new laptop comparable to my two year old desktop is over twice the price.

OWNER
SHIP,
R

Exactly. I built my desktop PC piece by piece. You can't to that with a laptop.

108 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:23:11pm

re: #107 NJDhockeyfan

Exactly. I built my desktop PC piece by piece. You can't to that with a laptop.

You can, but it will look kinda funny.

/

109 stevieray  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:24:25pm

re: #58 CommonCents

As a steady gamer and software programmer, desktop PC's will not become obsolete. The laptop is neat, but for horsepower, peripherals, and component upgrades/replacements the desktop is still king.

Not to mention screen size. I've got a 22 inch monitor, and I really like the large images on it. A laptop with a 22 inch screen would be silly -- too big to lug around.

110 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:24:31pm

re: #87 lawhawk

You know, the media has been real good collecting all those Bushisms.

Somehow I sincerely doubt that they'll collect Obamanisms with the same relish.

Heck, Obama's malapropisms during just the past 18 months are sufficient to rival anything Bush had said in the past eight years.

I like the term "Bushism".

I suggest that every time President Obama makes a gaff, mispronounces a word or says something stupid we continue to refer to it as a Bushism.

111 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:24:39pm
112 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:25:31pm

re: #111 buzzsawmonkey

Were I at all savvy in these things, I would build a desktop computer using an old typewriter and one of those vintage "space age" TVs, just for the groovy retro-ness.

What you want is an Apple IIe.

113 unclassifiable  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:25:47pm
As laptops dominate, desktop PCs face obsolescence

I just bought my first personal non-work laptop and my first Apple product -- a Mac Book Pro.

I was forced to when my main PC desktop went on the fritz and I had several personal projects that I wanted to get done.

I have been thrilled and amazed it has taken me this long to get over the PC-centric prejudice. It's a great machine.

114 Digital Display  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:26:26pm

re: #109 stevieray

Not to mention screen size. I've got a 22 inch monitor, and I really like the large images on it. A laptop with a 22 inch screen would be silly -- too big to lug around.

I got a new 22" Dell at work the other day...I jus luv it!

115 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:27:00pm

re: #91 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It is only 9:14. Really?

6:18 here

116 funky chicken  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:27:15pm

Whoa.

Think 26/11, and images of the carnage at the Taj come to mind. But the terrorists themselves were in no doubt that Nariman House was the prime focus. For this was the place which housed a Jewish centre, and the fanatics from Pakistan were clear that they wanted to send a message to the world from there.

The Mumbai crime branch, which is investigating the terror attacks, has found that the terrorists’ handlers in Pakistan were clear this operation should not fail under any circumstances. The rest of the operations — at the Taj, Oberoi and Chhattrapati Shivaji Terminus — were intended to amplify the effect.

A senior police official, told DNA on condition of anonymity, that the interrogation of Mohammed Amir Iman Ajmal (aka Kasab) revealed as much. Just before entering the city, the terrorists’ team leader, Ismail Khan, briefed them once again about their targets. “But Khan briefed Imran Babar, alias Abu Akasha, and Nasir, alias Abu Umer, intensely on what to do at Nariman House,” the officer said.

When asked during interrogation why Nariman House was specifically targetted, Ajmal reportedly told the police they wanted to sent a message to Jews across the world by attacking the ultra orthodox synagogue.

According to the statement by Ajmal, Khan told Babar and Nasir that even if the others failed in their operation, they both could not afford to. “The Nariman House operation has to be a success,” the officer said, quoting from Ajmal’s statement.

I do wish that getting this info out would change something...

117 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:27:16pm

re: #109 stevieray

Not to mention screen size. I've got a 22 inch monitor, and I really like the large images on it. A laptop with a 22 inch screen would be silly -- too big to lug around.

I saw a link that showed a "system" this guy built. The case was welded steel, it was a 'luggable', but the neat thing was that it had two 17" LCDs that folded up. When you opened the case, the LCD's were hinged so it was one large screeen.

Next generation laptop was my take on it.

118 doppelganglander  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:28:57pm

re: #61 rawmuse

Something he wrote got Stinky's attention. At least a week ago.

I looked it up (December 13). From what I can piece together, it looks like he was asking for it. Too bad.

119 funky chicken  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:29:21pm

re: #106 lobo91

Ugh...could someone please explain to me why this asshole is still breathing?

Um, because we are trying to win hearts and minds still?

120 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:30:07pm
121 avanti  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:30:22pm

re: #78 OldLineTexan

Why yes...yes, it is. Like it or not, the real culture war is on the idiot box. Case in point: the meteoric rise and unlikely success of Barack Hussein Obama. A media product, all the way. A sound bite stretched into an entire "movement" consisting of people without enough interest in basic information to fill a thimble. A paucity of thought accompanied by an excess of emotion followed by the surety of disaster.

I'll respond without addressing the lack of information thing. His was the first campaign that I felt valued the voters input. From weekly e-mails, to his use of the net, he seemed more modern and engaged, cool if you will. I supported McCain early on, then left when he moved to the social conservative side. He stayed largely on topic, while the GOP stayed with the Rove attack plan which turned me off.
Yes, the folks working for Obama were star stuck, but not as uninformed as you'd like to think. The guy just inspired his voters, so much so that they worked harder and longer then the McCain folks.
My opinion is the GOP will need a Obama like candidate to grab the next election since style will win over substance any day. My hope was, and is, that Obama will use his star power to get the country moving again and surround himself with good advisers.

122 funky chicken  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:31:55pm

re: #23 Killgore Trout

I'd kinda like to see Coulter and Joe the Plumber go away. I find them a little embarrassing.

Joe the Plumber is more embarrassing than even Coulter, IMHO. At least Coulter is really sharp...and I'm not a fan of hers.

123 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:33:13pm

re: #121 avanti

I'll respond without addressing the lack of information thing. His was the first campaign that I felt valued the voters input. From weekly e-mails, to his use of the net, he seemed more modern and engaged, cool if you will. I supported McCain early on, then left when he moved to the social conservative side. He stayed largely on topic, while the GOP stayed with the Rove attack plan which turned me off.
Yes, the folks working for Obama were star stuck, but not as uninformed as you'd like to think. The guy just inspired his voters, so much so that they worked harder and longer then the McCain folks.
My opinion is the GOP will need a Obama like candidate to grab the next election since style will win over substance any day. My hope was, and is, that Obama will use his star power to get the country moving again and surround himself with good advisers.

This is completely anecdotal, so I make no claims. I work for a large technology company. Politics are freely discussed, as the company is rather lefty, but my location is in a (majority) conservative area in flyover country. In speaking to a dozen or so Obama supporters, I could find no one that could articulate his qualifications for the office. Hope, chanhe, and cool are great for getting elected. Now what?

124 lobo91  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:33:25pm

re: #121 avanti

My hope was, and is, that Obama will use his star power to get the country moving again and surround himself with good advisers.

Then you clearly haven't been paying attention.

Leon Panetta as CIA Director? Maybe in a skit on SNL, but not in real life.

And don't get me started on his choice for Attorney General...

125 Syrah  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:34:19pm

re: #24 Sharmuta

The Republicans are all over the board. The Party has no ideology at this point beyond pragmatism.

126 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:36:22pm

re: #125 Syrah

The Republicans are all over the board. The Party has no ideology at this point beyond pragmatism.

Diversity and inclusiveness!

127 lobo91  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:42:02pm

re: #125 Syrah

The Republicans are all over the board. The Party has no ideology at this point beyond pragmatism.

The party absolutely does have an ideology beyond pragmatism. The current platform doesn't look much different from what it did when Reagan was president.

The problem is that so few of the elected officials who call themselves Republicans have ever read it.

128 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:43:07pm

From the "Israel in the balance" link
"We are witnessing a new, chastened mainstream media. The blogosphere bludgeoning has worked."

THANK YOU Charles, and all the LGF'rs!

129 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:43:19pm

Check out these computer cases.

130 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:46:14pm
131 avanti  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:47:15pm

re: #123 OldLineTexan

This is completely anecdotal, so I make no claims. I work for a large technology company. Politics are freely discussed, as the company is rather lefty, but my location is in a (majority) conservative area in flyover country. In speaking to a dozen or so Obama supporters, I could find no one that could articulate his qualifications for the office. Hope, chanhe, and cool are great for getting elected. Now what?


How you feel about a candidate is often just a unidentifiable gut instinct thing and not always logical. Both Obama and Palin captured that, McCain did not. As a example I tried my best to sell Obama to a female friend of mine, providing links on policy, his books the works, and nada. One day she announced she was voting for Obama after watching the O'reilly interview.
She noticed that he'd reach out and touch O'Reilly when making a point and that did it for her. She thought he seemed "nice" and even that O'Reilly liked him. How do campaign against that ?

132 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:49:49pm
133 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:51:03pm

re: #131 avanti

How you feel about a candidate is often just a unidentifiable gut instinct thing and not always logical. Both Obama and Palin captured that, McCain did not. As a example I tried my best to sell Obama to a female friend of mine, providing links on policy, his books the works, and nada. One day she announced she was voting for Obama after watching the O'reilly interview.
She noticed that he'd reach out and touch O'Reilly when making a point and that did it for her. She thought he seemed "nice" and even that O'Reilly liked him. How do campaign against that ?

You don't, as we have seen proven. Nor can you properly act as executive of the FedGov on "nice".

134 lobo91  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:51:51pm

re: #131 avanti

How you feel about a candidate is often just a unidentifiable gut instinct thing and not always logical. Both Obama and Palin captured that, McCain did not. As a example I tried my best to sell Obama to a female friend of mine, providing links on policy, his books the works, and nada. One day she announced she was voting for Obama after watching the O'reilly interview.
She noticed that he'd reach out and touch O'Reilly when making a point and that did it for her. She thought he seemed "nice" and even that O'Reilly liked him. How do campaign against that ?

Personally, I consider "not a psuedo-Marxist" a more important characteristic than "seems nice" in my choice of candidates, but I guess I'm just funny that way...

135 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:52:46pm
136 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:58:06pm

re: #126 OldLineTexan

Diversity and inclusiveness!

There's nothing wrong with diversity and inclusiveness- but they should be a happy bi-product, not the driving force. They themselves are not sources of ideological thought so they can't be a driving force.

Take europe for example. They wanted to be diverse and inclusive. Look where that's gotten them. Whereas here in the US, we want liberty and individual rights and it's led to diversity and inclusiveness in our society.

I think you'll end up seeing something similar in the democrats. They might gain short term be seeming diverse but in the long run, a real ideological foundation will go further. That's where the GOP should look.

137 Opinionated  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:58:33pm

Anti-Semitic attack on teenage girl in Paris

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

Gaza offensive spurs rise in anti-Semitic incidents across Europe

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

When Israel was subjected to buses and cafes and schools and other places getting blown up, when Israel is ever attacked, have you ever in your life heard of an incident anywhere in the World where Jews randomly attacked an Arab as payback.

If you are a moral degenerate like Alan Colmes and can't choose between right and wrong, stop and think about who you support.

138 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:04:47pm
But now it's the sandals of Obama that are being exploited by the same tub-thumper, and one has not merely a right but a duty to object to having as an inaugural auxiliary a man who is a pushover for anti-Semitism, Islamic sectarianism, "rapture" theology, fascist dictatorship, 10th-rate media trade-offs, and last-minute panicky self-censorship all at the same time. Is there nobody in the Obama camp who can see that this is not just a gay issue? And is there no gay figure who can say that Warren is objectionable for reasons that have more to do with decency, democracy, and the Constitution?

Damn, Hitch- tell us how you really feel.

139 Hobbes  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:13:27pm

re: #76 loppyd

She is hated by the Left for being completely unapologetic for her views - many of which I agree with. Sometimes she can wear on me, though....

I like Ann, most of her points I agree with, but her delivery drives me crazy. I wish she'd slow down.
Maybe she's been on these talking point shows too much, where you have to talk a mile a minute and scream to be heard. Though, I've heard her on other shows where she's one on one, so there's no issue about getting your comment across, and she still rushes on and screams. I think she'd be more respected if she didn't seem so frantic.

140 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:15:51pm

Al Qaeda using pedophile websites to plot terror attacks against Britain


[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

141 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:15:55pm

Desktops are now best suited for home theater applications, IMO.

SageTV

142 avanti  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:18:54pm

re: #134 lobo91

Personally, I consider "not a psuedo-Marxist" a more important characteristic than "seems nice" in my choice of candidates, but I guess I'm just funny that way...

I've never figured out the Marxist label, but then again I didn't get some of the labels for GW either. I read all the hype about him taking us far left, but I think you'll be disappointed as he moves to the center, as will the far left.
He is the ultimate pragmatist and will hook up with those on the right if he needs them.

143 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:22:41pm

re: #142 avanti

I've never figured out the Marxist label, but then again I didn't get some of the labels for GW either. I read all the hype about him taking us far left, but I think you'll be disappointed as he moves to the center, as will the far left.
He is the ultimate pragmatist and will hook up with those on the right if he needs them.

No offense, but have you read any of his writings?

144 cincinnati_kid37  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:23:31pm

Here are a couple more great links.

Global warming climate change due to Milankovitch Cycles, not CO2, or any other gas.

[Link: www.sciam.com...]

[Link: www.sciam.com...]

145 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:26:53pm

re: #138 Sharmuta

Damn, Hitch- tell us how you really feel.

You might not have seen this one that Instapundit linked earlier in the week, where Hitch was glowing anti-Zionist Red.

A few pull quotes:

(Remember that all the nonsense of the so-called "Al-Aqsa intifada," which wasted so much time and life in the last decades, was first instigated by an electoral rivalry between Netanyahu and Ariel Sharon, in which the latter showed himself more hard-line than the former by waddling militantly across the Temple Mount in the company of an armed band. For such vanities do children end up screaming in the streets over the mangled bodies of their parents—and vice, if I may so phrase it, versa.)

* * *

[A]s usual, [Benny] Morris' work is instructive. As one of the most stern of the "revisionist" historians of Israel's founding who went deep into his own country's archives to show that Palestinians had been the victims of a deliberate ethnic cleansing in 1947-48, Morris is accustomed to looking disagreeable facts in the face.

* * *

To read Benny Morris is to be quite able—and quite free—to doubt that there should ever have been an Israeli state to begin with.

The majority of the article is about Hamas and the PA, but Hitch has to put in the anti-Zionism to show how he's being "even handed."

146 lobo91  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:28:44pm

re: #142 avanti

I've never figured out the Marxist label

Couldn't possibly be the result of the fact that both his parents were Marxists, or that his political and spiritual mentors are both Marxists, or that he and his running mate were both talking about 'spreading the wealth around," or anything like that...

I read all the hype about him taking us far left, but I think you'll be disappointed as he moves to the center, as will the far left.
He is the ultimate pragmatist and will hook up with those on the right if he needs them.

Trust me, I'll be thrilled if he moves toward the center, but I see absolutely no evidence of that happening. Sure, he's disappointing some of his far-left supporters by not nominating card-carrying Communists for cabinet posts, but that's about it. I've seen no "move to the center" on his part.

147 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:30:52pm

Hitchens backed 0bama, and is a bit hung over from the HopeyChangeyParty.

148 avanti  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:32:35pm

re: #133 OldLineTexan

You don't, as we have seen proven. Nor can you properly act as executive of the FedGov on "nice".

Let me use a football analogy. Say you have a coach short on play calling experience, but he can charm all the top players to play for your school. He then hires assistants to do the play calling while he gives Gipper speeches to inspire the team. He's a nice coach, the team and the fans love him enough to support him for one season. If he loses, our team loses and we toss him out. A good part of being a successful executive is inspiring your team, that's what both Palin and Obama did.
I'll admit McCain would have been a safer choice, but the voters decided on taking a chance on hope,only time will tell if they screwed up.

149 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:34:12pm

re: #148 avanti

Let me use a football analogy. Say you have a coach short on play calling experience, but he can charm all the top players to play for your school. He then hires assistants to do the play calling while he gives Gipper speeches to inspire the team. He's a nice coach, the team and the fans love him enough to support him for one season. If he loses, our team loses and we toss him out. A good part of being a successful executive is inspiring your team, that's what both Palin and Obama did.
I'll admit McCain would have been a safer choice, but the voters decided on taking a chance on hope,only time will tell if they screwed up.

Obama plays basketball. End of analogy.

//

150 lobo91  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:39:08pm

re: #148 avanti

Say you have a coach short on play calling experience, but he can charm all the top players to play for your school. He then hires assistants to do the play calling while he gives Gipper speeches to inspire the team.

Great in theory; unfortunately, the "assistants" Obama is hiring are a bunch of losers.

He's a nice coach, the team and the fans love him enough to support him for one season. If he loses, our team loses and we toss him out.

Unfortunately, we're talking abut the real world, not football. If Obama "loses," we all lose.

151 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:41:32pm

re: #140 Dustyvet

Al Qaeda using pedophile websites to plot terror attacks against Britain

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

Be careful with links from Robert Spencer's website. He is in bed with some not-so-nice people.

152 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:42:10pm

re: #150 lobo91

Unfortunately, we're talking abut the real world, not football. If Obama "loses," we all lose.

90% Clinton retreads. "Change"

153 avanti  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:44:12pm

re: #146 lobo91

Couldn't possibly be the result of the fact that both his parents were Marxists, or that his political and spiritual mentors are both Marxists, or that he and his running mate were both talking about 'spreading the wealth around," or anything like that...

OK, now I'm getting answers. Since his mother and father divorced when he was two, the father thing if true does not interest me. Since his grandmother raised him, I'd look for her Commie leanings. Just post a link about his mothers Marxist background. Joe Bidens and his comments about repealing the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy won't convince me they are Commie either.

154 lobo91  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:46:29pm

re: #152 OldLineTexan

I'm starting to think that Panetta was a fake choice. Obama can throw him under the bus, and claim that he's "listening to advice" from others.

Then he'll announce his real choice. Probably Wesley Clark or someone equally pathetic.

155 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:48:53pm

re: #154 lobo91

I'm starting to think that Panetta was a fake choice. Obama can throw him under the bus, and claim that he's "listening to advice" from others.

Then he'll announce his real choice. Probably Wesley Clark or someone equally pathetic.

No, Barry's in over his head, and the Clinton machine is his Rove.

156 lobo91  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:49:29pm

re: #153 avanti

OK, now I'm getting answers. Since his mother and father divorced when he was two, the father thing if true does not interest me. Since his grandmother raised him, I'd look for her Commie leanings. Just post a link about his mothers Marxist background. Joe Bidens and his comments about repealing the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy won't convince me they are Commie either.

I'm not interested in trying to convince you of anything. You've clearly had a few cups of the koolaid, so there's not much point.

157 yochanan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:50:41pm

is a link pile anything like a furry 'fur pile'?

158 avanti  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:51:21pm

re: #150 lobo91

Unfortunately, we're talking abut the real world, not football. If Obama "loses," we all lose.

Very true, and that's why I disagree with those assuming failure before he's sworn in. I look back at GW after 9-11 and the political capital he had before the Iraq war. We're in a economic 9-11 right now and he will fail without the support of both sides at least until he starts to screw up.

159 lobo91  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:52:24pm

re: #155 OldLineTexan

No, Barry's in over his head, and the Clinton machine is his Rove.

I don't disagree with you, but remember, both of those things can simultaneously be true.

Most of his picks have been fairly understandable, albeit way left of center. The Panetta thing, on the other hand, is just goofy.

Even Dianne Feinstein thinks so.

160 avanti  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:53:33pm

re: #156 lobo91

I'm not interested in trying to convince you of anything. You've clearly had a few cups of the koolaid, so there's not much point.

Fair enough, but I was actually trying to find out where the Commie mom and dad stories came from.

161 lobo91  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:57:08pm

re: #158 avanti

Very true, and that's why I disagree with those assuming failure before he's sworn in. I look back at GW after 9-11 and the political capital he had before the Iraq war. We're in a economic 9-11 right now and he will fail without the support of both sides at least until he starts to screw up.

He's going to fail, regardless. The policies he's planning to ram down our throats with the help of Reid and Pelosi are going to do so much damage to the country that it's going to take a generation or more to recover.

That's assuming, of course, that we even have a country left after he gets done gutting the military and the intelligence services.

This is the first time in my life that I've honestly worried about the future of this country.

162 avanti  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:59:43pm

re: #159 lobo91

I don't disagree with you, but remember, both of those things can simultaneously be true.

Most of his picks have been fairly understandable, albeit way left of center. The Panetta thing, on the other hand, is just goofy.

Even Dianne Feinstein thinks so.

I'll admit I don't fully get that one myself. The general theory is he wanted someone that could he could trust to in that position. Feinstein was ticked that the choice was leaked before she was contacted, but she now supports him. Thankfully, we'll have hearing to flush the guys qualifications for the job. At first glance, it does raise questions to me also.

163 Dirk Diggler  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 8:02:16pm

The DRUDGE REPORT has a flash regarding the Chinese balking at buying more U.S. debt. I can only imagine that Obama's "plan" to run trillion dollar deficits into the forseeable future has made them squeamish.

164 lobo91  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 8:04:12pm

re: #163 Dirk Diggler

The DRUDGE REPORT has a flash regarding the Chinese balking at buying more U.S. debt. I can only imagine that Obama's "plan" to run trillion dollar deficits into the forseeable future has made them squeamish.

Unlike 52% of the voting public (and 100% of the media), the Chinese aren't stupid, apparently.

165 Fierce Guppy  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 8:04:55pm

re: #58 CommonCents

As a steady gamer and software programmer, desktop PC's will not become obsolete. The laptop is neat, but for horsepower, peripherals, and component upgrades/replacements the desktop is still king.

Anyway, laptops are for a different market. Of course there are gaming laptops, but given the same horsepower the gaming laptop will always be much more costly than a desktop PC because smaller, more power efficient components are used.

166 avanti  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 8:05:03pm

re: #161 lobo91

This is the first time in my life that I've honestly worried about the future of this country.

If it makes you feel any better, I felt the same way about Bush, but the country made it. America got through Carter we can do this.

167 avanti  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 8:11:59pm

re: #143 OldLineTexan

No offense, but have you read any of his writings?

I read both his books, he's a liberal no doubt, but I didn't see any Marxist comments. Both he and I read everything from Mein Kempt to Mao, but that's intellectual curiosity, not a endorsement of the teachings of either.

168 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 8:20:10pm

re: #167 avanti

I read both his books, he's a liberal no doubt, but I didn't see any Marxist comments. Both he and I read everything from Mein Kempt to Mao, but that's intellectual curiosity, not a endorsement of the teachings of either.

How about his campaign statements? "Spread the wealth"?

169 Hobbes  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 8:20:33pm

re: #161 lobo91

He's going to fail, regardless. The policies he's planning to ram down our throats with the help of Reid and Pelosi are going to do so much damage to the country that it's going to take a generation or more to recover.

That's assuming, of course, that we even have a country left after he gets done gutting the military and the intelligence services.

This is the first time in my life that I've honestly worried about the future of this country.

Let's hope he fails. If he doesn't say hello to Socialism or worse.

170 funky chicken  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 8:21:55pm

re: #163 Dirk Diggler

The DRUDGE REPORT has a flash regarding the Chinese balking at buying more U.S. debt. I can only imagine that Obama's "plan" to run trillion dollar deficits into the forseeable future has made them squeamish.

Gee, you mean the Chinese are tired of bankrolling US citizens' profligacy? How unsporting of them.

I heard VDH on Dennis Miller's radio show yesterday evening, and it was just so depressing. He verbalized a lot of what I've started thinking....from all the commercials for "debt restructuring" where they can get people's credit card debt magically erased, to people just walking away from mortgages to the global response to Israel/Hamas. It's like everything and the majority of everybody has just gone nuts. Everything is extreme farce, but for some reason I have trouble laughing.

Miller kept trying to be sarcastic and get laughs but he failed....

171 SFGoth  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 8:31:53pm

How about a link to the utter holy hell we're going to be in soon when the bills for all this stimulus bullshit come due? Everyone wants a handout; they're going to get it and we're going to be fucked. You know whom I blame for this? Even though the old canard is that presidents really can't control the economy, I blame Bush. First, he made it ok for Republicans to spend like drunken sailors. Did his administration show any concern that the housing bubble might burst? Were they monitoring any of this Fannie Mae nonsense? Then he basically said, "I'm going to come out as a soshalist and bail out every loser on the planet, kinda like my old Texas Ranjers." Lets in millions of illegals who are now defaulting on loans that we citizen-taxpayers have to pay for. If another Bush ever runs for president (and GHWB was a freakin' spineless, dipshit of a president too) I'll campaign against him no matterfuckingwhat. But you know what? I'm in a recession-proof industry (San Francisco land use litigation), I have plenty of cash, a very low mortage ($1,250/mo on 1100 sq ft Noe Valley duplex condo), no student loans, car payments, child support, and I'm just going to chill out and enjoy the wonders of God's loving creations (whether they need to be brewed, fermented, distilled, or dried), bless Her heart, until either the unstoppable force or the immovable object wins.

172 avanti  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 8:33:50pm

re: #168 OldLineTexan

How about his campaign statements? "Spread the wealth"?

Again, rolling back the Bush tax cuts for the rich to provide middle class relief may be spreading the wealth, but it's been in the tax code since it's inception. Marginal rates were once as high as 91% for the very rich.

173 funky chicken  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 8:45:56pm

re: #161 lobo91

Eh, the country will survive. If Europe really freezes all winter, it won't be nearly as hip to wail about global warming. It may even become stylish to mock the whole thing by fall of 2012. Yeah, Obama picked two hard core global warming true believers for his science advisors, so he's going to support terrible energy legislation. And yeah, he's gonna side with the Muslims like he said he would in his book, etc.

The good news is that Europe and other countries around the world are gonna have to grow up now. The American voters went for infantiliization and weakness....we ain't gonna be the international Daddy any more.

silver lining, etc

174 funky chicken  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 8:50:41pm

re: #171 SFGoth

Bush had a real opportunity and the political capital after 9/11 to tell the American people some hard truths....like we were going to develop every drop of our domestic oil possible, because sending cash to Saudi Arabia and Russia is stupid. Instead he looked into Putin's eyes and saw a beautiful soul, and he stayed BFF with the Saudis.

He could have vetoed every single GOP congress porkfest, and publicly shamed people like Trent Lott, Ted Stevens, Duke Cunningham et al into supporting the troops instead of their cronies.

He could have cared about killing the enemy more than "winning hearts and minds" starting in 2004.
Yeah, I most definitely blame Bush.

175 yellowroseoftexas  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 9:02:22pm

It's been a very long time since I posted in here, but I had to post because I am so disgusted right about now I can barely stand it. Did anyone happen to see this? [Link: www.foxnews.com...]
These people are despicable, especially that ugly girl shouting murderers at the proIsraeli people,and then go back to the ovens. How ironic,she accuses someone of being a murderer,and then advocates murder herself. What an evil witch. I wish there was someway we could get these vile people deported from this country.

176 SFGoth  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 9:06:02pm

re: #174 funky chicken

Simpatico, mi amigo. Good points you bring up, though I do have one counterintuitive take on Putin -- what Bush said was an attempt to shame him into being good since nothing else would really work and maybe he was susceptible to it. Nah, I don't credit Bush with being that cagey.

177 SFGoth  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 9:08:26pm

re: #175 yellowroseoftexas

especially that ugly girl shouting murderers at the proIsraeli people,

Are there any attractive Arab women? I see tons of hot Israeli babes (of course, S.F. Jewish chicks are generally left, dumb, and fat). Probably one effect of Arab tribalism is that the ugly gene, being dominant, gets so passed around you end up with these really horse-faced people, whose moustaches (male or female) don't help.

178 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 9:19:25pm

re: #177 SFGoth

Are there any attractive Arab women? I see tons of hot Israeli babes (of course, S.F. Jewish chicks are generally left, dumb, and fat). Probably one effect of Arab tribalism is that the ugly gene, being dominant, gets so passed around you end up with these really horse-faced people, whose moustaches (male or female) don't help.

The hot ones are forced to wear a burka.

179 funky chicken  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 9:43:35pm

re: #155 OldLineTexan

No, Barry's in over his head, and the Clinton machine is his Rove.

Yeah, and Biden is his Cheney.

gravitas

180 aceilau  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 10:20:17pm

check out this web site. (check out the vote statistics - interesting)

181 restitutor orbis  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 1:02:27am
I'd kinda like to see Coulter and Joe the Plumber go away. I find them a little embarrassing.

Same here...Ann Coulter is just a female version of Rachel Maddow, who in turn is just a male version of Keith Olbermann

182 abolitionist  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 4:24:08am

re: #153 avanti

OK, now I'm getting answers. Since his mother and father divorced when he was two, the father thing if true does not interest me. Since his grandmother raised him, I'd look for her Commie leanings. Just post a link about his mothers Marxist background. Joe Bidens and his comments about repealing the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy won't convince me they are Commie either.

Barack Obama: Red Diaper Baby

The following do not relate directly to the politics of BHO's mother, but are relevant to the politics of BHO himself:

Barack Obama and Alinsky's Rules for Psychopaths


Begin where the president elect began! - Barack Obama,
former GAMALIEL organizer...

GAMALIEL FOUNDATION (GF)

Obama and Dohrn and Ayers

Some lizards are more than a little concerned about Barry & Michelle's associations with "down with capitalism" Ayers and "tear it up from within" Dohrn. "We are communist men and women..." -Prairie Fire, 1974

And there's that 1970 Declaration of War thing, which both Ayers and Dohrn re-affirmed as recently as 2004.

183 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 6:14:41am

Regrding Charles' link on the Nariman House massacre ... I still want to know what happened to those poor people who were killed there. I remember the Indian doctors said the bodies showed signs of torture and it was so disturbing that they could not even describe it. But I think the world NEEDS to know what happened to those innocent people. I emailed Fareed Zakaria, who is Indian and I asked him to try and find those doctors and see what type of torture the victims endured. I am not holding my breath, but I consider Zakaria to be a decent soul and he has written honestly in the past about sensitive issues. I am NOT interested in causing the families any additional grief, but I feel the world needs to hear the details of the savagery these islamists inflicted on innocent Jews.

184 funky chicken  Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:31:41am

re: #182 abolitionist

great post


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