Michael Totten on the Gaza Border
Michael J. Totten: A Dispatch from the Border with Gaza.
Michael J. Totten: A Dispatch from the Border with Gaza.
2 | Honorary Yooper Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:09:33am |
“The power plant is around seven kilometers away as the crow flies,” Colonel Eisen said, “or as the rocket flies. The city of Ashkelon itself – because the power plant is at the southern edge of it – is nine or ten kilometers from the northern edge of the Gaza Strip.” Much of Gaza’s electricity is generated by that plant, and yet Hamas takes great pleasure in shooting at it.
Then maybe it’s time to cut off the power to Gaza until the twits get the point.
3 | Sharmuta Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:10:45am |
“Sderot has had four days without the sounding of rocket alarms in the last eight years,” she said. “Four days.”
And the msm never feels the need to tell us this aspect of the conflict. Shameful.
Thank you, Michael, for yet another great piece.
4 | Kosh's Shadow Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:11:22am |
Doing the job the MSM should be doing.
During Operation Cast Lead (still waiting for “Operation Cast the Hamassholes Out”) the MSM made it sound like the IDF re-invaded Gaza to stop model rockets, not things that actually kill people, and are meant to kill civilians.
5 | Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:11:44am |
According to the “New International Law” as defined by Hamas and their MSM enablers, the side with the most dead babies wins.
6 | Afrocity Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:13:24am |
Why is Obama back on the stump.
Will someone please tell this guy that he won the election.
The Whitehouse now wants to take over the census.
Is it 666 Pennsylvania Avenue?
7 | UFO TOFU Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:14:41am |
Much of Gaza’s electricity is generated by that plant, and yet Hamas takes great pleasure in shooting at it.
I’m just shaking my head.
8 | quickjustice Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:14:44am |
I didn’t realize that in 12/08, Hamas upgraded their rockets, necessitating the Israeli response. That explains a great deal.
9 | thefallingman Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:15:16am |
You can’t help but admire the courage, resolve, and sheer humanity of these people. To send aid to your enemies’ families out of the goodness of your heart. And to have it repaid with evil. It disgusts me how most Western “journalists” can’t see this.
10 | quickjustice Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:16:50am |
As Daniel Patrick Moynihan once said in a different context, our current political leaders are defining deviancy downwards.
12 | Honorary Yooper Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:17:40am |
Sderot in any other place, with any other people in Gaza would and should be a quiet bedroom suburb.
Instead, it is as if the Hamassholes had set up shop in the Loop and were shelling Cicero or Berwyn.
13 | Opinionated Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:17:42am |
Tomorrow Israelis go to the polls.
If they don’t punish the parties and people who brought the barbarians to within rocket range by the idiotic and tragic surrender of Gaza: then they are beyond help.
14 | thefallingman Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:20:48am |
re: #11 buzzsawmonkey
I suspect that they do see it; that it shames them; and that this exacerbates their pre-existing hostility.
I’ll have to concede that you’re probably right there. It certainly explains why coverage becomes more and more hostile the more and more Israel reaches out.
16 | Who Watches the Watchmen? Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:21:35am |
17 | JohnnyReb Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:22:21am |
18 | Jetpilot1101 Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:22:45am |
It’s ok, I’m sure the great communicators Clinton and Biden can smooth things over in no time.
/
20 | x-wing Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:24:29am |
re: #17 JohnnyReb
I thought it was 1313 mockingbird lane?
No, that’s Nancy Pelosis office address.
/
21 | Rexatosis Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:24:43am |
This is the story that needs to be on CBS, NBC, ABC, BBC etc. instead of stringer reports and staged hysteria from Hamas operatives.
22 | goddessoftheclassroom Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:24:55am |
23 | Racer X Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:25:27am |
re: #6 Afrocity
Why is Obama back on the stump.
Will someone please tell this guy that he won the election.
Dude only knows how to campaign. Thats it.
Barack Obama is a novice - and it showsDuring last year’s epic election campaign, Hillary Clinton said that in the White House “there is no time for on-the-job training”. Joe Biden, too, remarked that the presidency was “not something that lends itself to on-the-job training”. Both were aiming barbs at their then primary opponent. Mrs Clinton has since brought what she would refer to as her “lifetime of experience” to the role of Secretary of State, while Mr Biden has traded 36 years in the Senate for the vice-presidency. And the rookie they derided is President.
Now, the words of his former rivals are returning to haunt President Obama. After a distinctly rocky start to his presidency, he has admitted he “screwed up” and is returning to one thing in his political career that he has perfected – campaigning. In Elkhart, Indiana, today and Fort Myers, Florida, tomorrow, Mr Obama will try to seize back control of the political agenda with question-and-answer sessions with voters in two of the swing states that gave him victory.
Already, however, he is struggling, and the product he is now selling is not himself but a near-trillion-dollar economic “stimulus” package loaded with pet Democratic spending projects that has awakened slumbering Republicans in Congress and is now supported by barely a third of Americans. In between the Indiana and Florida stops, he will return to the White House for a prime-time press conference in which he will appeal directly to citizens and seek to rekindle the magic of his campaign.
24 | subsailor68 Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:25:52am |
OT, but thought I’d share:
Between this and mistaking a window for a door at the White House….
25 | Nevergiveup Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:26:02am |
No matter how you cut it, it’s just difficult to be optimistic about what’s going on in the world now a days.
26 | unreconstructed rebel Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:26:16am |
27 | x-wing Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:26:25am |
re: #22 goddessoftheclassroom
Hey, I liked the Munsters!
Hi {goddess}%P% so did I .
/bad analogy,I guess.
28 | Who Watches the Watchmen? Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:26:40am |
Oh boy, Johnny Mac is speaking on the Senate floor now.
Evil two-party cult of money™.
29 | Jetpilot1101 Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:26:43am |
re: #19 buzzsawmonkey
Wants to take over the census? Add the ACORN “stimulus” grants to that, and you’re looking at a Cabinet-level Department of Vote Fraud.
It wouldn’t surprise me if before the 2010 elections, the position of “election czar” is created by Obama for expressly the purpose of ensuring voter fraud stays entrenched leading to democrat victories. Of course Obama will tell us that it’s to ensure “transparency” during the election process.
30 | Racer X Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:27:04am |
The media is starting to turn on The One™.
Just like we knew they would.
31 | goddessoftheclassroom Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:27:20am |
re: #27 x-wing
Hi {goddess}%P% so did I .
/bad analogy,I guess.
Perhaps you were thinking of Ms. Pelosi as someone Herman would encounter at his place of business…
32 | unreconstructed rebel Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:27:38am |
re: #24 subsailor68
OT, but thought I’d share:
Between this and mistaking a window for a door at the White House….
The cartoonists are in for a bad patch, now that he is missing an ear.
33 | Randall Gross Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:27:51am |
re: #6 Afrocity
Why is Obama back on the stump.
Will someone please tell this guy that he won the election.
The Whitehouse now wants to take over the census.Is it 666 Pennsylvania Avenue?
I think he’s trying to emulate Reagan here: over the heads of the press, the pols, and the pundits direct to the people. I don’t think it will work for him in the long run the way it did for Reagan, however it might have some effect we’ll have to wait and see.
34 | x-wing Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:28:33am |
re: #24 subsailor68
OT, but thought I’d share:
Between this and mistaking a window for a door at the White House….
MSM comparisons to Ford and Bush in….
/I must’ve bumped my head ;>}%P%
35 | subsailor68 Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:28:57am |
re: #32 unreconstructed rebel
The cartoonists are in for a bad patch, now that he is missing an ear.
You mean Obama Van Gogh?
:-)
36 | Randall Gross Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:29:11am |
I’ve read a lot of articles on missiles an Sderot, but this is the most complete in the analysis.
37 | karmic_inquisitor Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:29:15am |
The Israelis has to close the place down. Only a handful of patients ever came through, which didn’t surprise me. I didn’t see any Palestinian patients there when I visited. Hamas didn’t allow their wounded to be treated by Jews.
That sums it up.
38 | unreconstructed rebel Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:30:14am |
re: #33 Thanos
I think he’s trying to emulate Reagan here: over the heads of the press, the pols, and the pundits direct to the people. I don’t think it will work for him in the long run the way it did for Reagan, however it might have some effect we’ll have to wait and see.
Remember the town meeting with Albright & the token RINA senator from New England? I thought they were gonna be stoned.
39 | Nevergiveup Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:30:24am |
Mr. Obama- You can’t end wars, they are won or lost
—Uncle Jimbo
[Link: ace.mu.nu…]
The first SF team room I walked into had a sign over the Captain’s desk that said “Shut up sir, we’ll throw you a pen when we need you to sign something”. That sign stayed up for every new Captain assigned to a team of seasoned NCOs to serve as their Detachment Commander, and it only came down when he had gained the trust and became the Team Leader.
40 | subsailor68 Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:30:31am |
re: #34 x-wing
MSM comparisons to Ford and Bush in….
/I must’ve bumped my head ;>}%P%
Well, looking at the bright side, Chevy Chase may get a call from SNL.
41 | opinionated Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:30:41am |
File under: Golda Meir’s famous quote: Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.
Palestinians Pull Patients From Israeli Hospitals
JERUSALEM — Scores of Palestinian patients being treated in Israeli hospitals, a rare bright spot of coexistence here, are being sent home because the Palestinian Authority has stopped paying for their treatment, partly in anger over the war in Gaza.
[Link: www.nytimes.com…]
42 | realwest Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:31:16am |
It’s nice to know that there are SOME real journalists left; just a great job of reporting Mr. Totten.
I found the explanation of Hamas firing rockets “aimed” at schools at times when the school children would be “out and about” during recess, particulary chilling.
Way to go Michael Totten.
Hey U.N. - y’all might want to read Mr. Totten’s report.
44 | SasquatchOnSteroids Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:33:56am |
The kids in first grade in Sderot were born when rockets were being fired at Sderot. They have lived their entire lives having to think that when they leave the house, when they’re walking down the street, when they’re playing ball, that they have fifteen seconds to hide from an incoming rocket.
As opposed to a first-grader in Gaza, who is forced to shield a terrorist within 15 seconds.
These kids in Sderot have never lived any other way. What a ghastly way to raise a family. A war crime like no other.
45 | Nevergiveup Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:34:01am |
re: #41 opinionated
File under: Golda Meir’s famous quote: Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.
Palestinians Pull Patients From Israeli Hospitals
[Link: www.nytimes.com…]
Other than your source for the article, it certainly does say alot doesn’t it.
46 | MandyManners Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:34:37am |
“Kiryat Gat means something to us,” she said. “It has the only factory for Intel chips outside the United States. The make the chips there for your computer in the city of Kiryat Gat. Kiryat Gat was hit, as were many of the other cities within the radius.”
These chips are in computers used by jihadists all over the world.
47 | Kosh's Shadow Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:35:05am |
re: #42 realwest
It’s nice to know that there are SOME real journalists left; just a great job of reporting Mr. Totten.
I found the explanation of Hamas firing rockets “aimed” at schools at times when the school children would be “out and about” during recess, particulary chilling.
Way to go Michael Totten.
Hey U.N. - y’all might want to read Mr. Totten’s report.
The UN would send more money to Gaza if they read the report. It is a vile den of anti-Semitism, fascism, graft, and genuine evil. The NYC sewer is cleaner and the rats are better company.
48 | Nevergiveup Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:35:55am |
Troops enlisted to cheer Obama spendulus plan?
By Michelle Malkin • February 9, 2009 01:22 PM
[Link: michellemalkin.com…]
Anybody else catch this?
49 | MandyManners Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:36:19am |
re: #19 buzzsawmonkey
Wants to take over the census? Add the ACORN “stimulus” grants to that, and you’re looking at a Cabinet-level Department of Vote Fraud.
I’ve been foaming at the mouth about that for a few days. This is an incredible chance to screw up the right to vote.
50 | tfc3rid Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:37:14am |
re: #48 Nevergiveup
Troops enlisted to cheer Obama spendulus plan?
By Michelle Malkin • February 9, 2009 01:22 PM[Link: michellemalkin.com…]
Anybody else catch this?
just read this… I thought troops were not to be in uniform at a political event?
51 | realwest Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:37:32am |
re: #6 Afrocity
Well I’ve said this before: the campaign is over, Mr. Obama - you WON! Now, PLEASE, get down to the long hours and extremely HARD WORK of being POTUS and Leader of the Free World.
Indeed, his going on the stump so to speak does indeed seem to be working against him. As I posted as an OT in the Kindle thread and I’ve put in the spin off links for this thread (from the Rasmussen daily polls):
With the Senate poised to vote Tuesday on an $827-billion version of the economic recovery plan, 62% of U.S. voters want the plan to include more tax cuts and less government spending.
Just 14% would like to move in the opposite direction with more government spending and fewer tax cuts, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. Twenty percent (20%) would be happy to pass it pretty much as is, and five percent (5%) are not sure.
Republicans and unaffiliated voters overwhelmingly want to see more tax cuts and less government spending. Democrats are more evenly divided: 42% agree with the Republicans, 32% want to pass the plan as is, and 22% would like to see more government spending and fewer tax cuts.”
So far Obama has, IMO, squandered his political capital by trusting Nancy Pelosi and a very few other Dem’s to write the Stimulus Bill . By doing so he has not only attracted enormous attention to that bill, but to everything he’s said and done - including that probably illegal Executive Order.
52 | tfc3rid Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:37:40am |
re: #49 MandyManners
I’ve been foaming at the mouth about that for a few days. This is an incredible chance to screw up the right to vote.
It’s an incredible chance to have the Dems take over the right to vote…
53 | jaunte Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:37:49am |
re: #33 Thanos
I think he’s trying to emulate Reagan here: over the heads of the press, the pols, and the pundits direct to the people. I don’t think it will work for him in the long run the way it did for Reagan, however it might have some effect we’ll have to wait and see.
He may have missed the fact that the vast majority of the press and many of the pundits were on his side. Going direct to the people he’s going to lose some insulation.
54 | Jetpilot1101 Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:38:41am |
re: #48 Nevergiveup
Troops enlisted to cheer Obama spendulus plan?
By Michelle Malkin • February 9, 2009 01:22 PM[Link: michellemalkin.com…]
Anybody else catch this?
That is blatantly wrong. Soldiers are not allowed to participate in anything political. This rally was purely political unlike previous presidents who have used soldiers as a backdrop but only to congratulate them or make a non-political speech.
55 | Who Watches the Watchmen? Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:39:12am |
McCain says the spendulus bill is “generational theft.”
56 | FrogMarch Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:39:27am |
The city of Ashkelon itself – because the power plant is at the southern edge of it – is nine or ten kilometers from the northern edge of the Gaza Strip.” Much of Gaza’s electricity is generated by that plant, and yet Hamas takes great pleasure in shooting at it.
Idiots.
57 | subsailor68 Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:39:45am |
re: #51 realwest
RW, read the link on the earlier post and meant to upding you - but I’m old and forget things…so here’s the upding!
58 | jaunte Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:40:37am |
re: #55 Who Watches the Watchmen?
Taking candy from babies is the old way. There’s nothing easier than running a Ponzi scheme on people who aren’t born yet.
59 | rightside Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:40:49am |
re: #46 MandyManners
Mandy, what were you quoting in that post?
60 | realwest Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:41:08am |
re: #52 tfc3rid
YES BUT: The United States Code provided explicity that it is the responsibility of the Secretary of Commerce who shall see that the Census is conducted in a timely and accurate manner.
That trumps an Executive Order and frankly, although Obama MAY have the legislative votes to amend that, he’s wasted so much political capital on the bill of goods that Nancy Pelosi cooked up as the “Stimulus Bill” (see my #51 above and in the spinoff links above) that he might not be able to pull that off.
61 | Who Watches the Watchmen? Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:41:24am |
McCain: “if it had not started with ‘we won and we wrote the bill’ we could have had a truly bipartisan effort”
Where the hell was this McCain in October?
63 | Afrocity Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:41:49am |
Obama looks like a ametuer and I hope this back on the stump thing backfires.
64 | gmsc Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:42:18am |
OT: ABC News posts unintentionally funny headline:
‘Doing Nothing Is Not an Option’: Obama Hits Recession Central
No argument there. Because doing nothing is not an option to 0bama, we’ll all hit recession central.
65 | realwest Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:42:48am |
re: #57 subsailor68
LOL! Well thanks for the upding my friend, but I think the message sent by that Rasmussen poll is very, very important. Hell Obama is alienating Democratic voters!
66 | FrogMarch Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:43:22am |
No one would want to be in Gaza if large Iranian-made missiles were exploding into the sides of Tel Aviv skyscrapers every day.
To hell with the death-cult supporting leaders in Iran.
and now we have a pussy Iran-appeasing president here in the US.
Israel - God help you.
67 | Creeping Eruption Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:43:41am |
68 | subsailor68 Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:44:21am |
re: #65 realwest
LOL! Well thanks for the upding my friend, but I think the message sent by that Rasmussen poll is very, very important. Hell Obama is alienating Democratic voters!
Heh, heh. That’s why I did the upding thing. What’s it now - 21 or 22 days in office and he’s losing Democrats - and not the loony left ones either.
69 | realwest Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:44:57am |
re: #64 gmsc
LOL! Well ya know sometimes doing nothing is better than what Obama’s trying to do now. Rather than ask for and LISTEN to Republican objections to the Stimulus Bill drafted by Nancy Pelosi, Obama apparently feels the need to defend the indefensible.
70 | J.D. Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:44:59am |
re: #65 {realwest}
LOL! Well thanks for the upding my friend, but I think the message sent by that Rasmussen poll is very, very important. Hell Obama is alienating Democratic voters!
It was bound to happen, wasn’t it?
71 | subsailor68 Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:48:08am |
re: #64 gmsc
OT: ABC News posts unintentionally funny headline:
No argument there. Because doing nothing is not an option to 0bama, we’ll all hit recession central.
Funny thing about that. A retired Navy SEAL captain and I teamed up on some projects years ago. We were talking about his days in Vietnam - nothing classified, and I asked him what he thought his most important lesson was while he was there.
He said, “You know, the hardest thing to know is when the best thing to do is nothing at all.”
I never forgot that.
72 | realwest Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:49:38am |
re: #70 J.D.
{J.D.} - I do think it was inevitable, just frankly astounded at how quickly it has happened!
42% of Democrats polled, agreed with the Republicans who feel there basically isn’t enough stimulus and WAAY too much spending on Pork.
I honestly didn’t think even President Obama could screw up this badly.
74 | The Optimist Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:54:56am |
re: #47 Kosh’s Shadow
The UN would send more money to Gaza if they read the report. It is a vile den of anti-Semitism, fascism, graft, and genuine evil. The NYC sewer is cleaner and the rats are better company.
Rats have a higher morality than Hamas. Moreover, rats find their own subsistence and don’t rely on international handouts. However, on cleanliness, Hamas may be the equal of rats.
76 | FrogMarch Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:57:36am |
77 | Athos Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:57:56am |
re: #72 realwest
I honestly didn’t think even President Obama could screw up this badly.
Never underestimate the abilities of The One……he can implode a Presidency in less than 30 days……
Isn’t it interesting how they keep bringing up job creation / salvation numbers that are clearly just pulled out of their collective asses….and are utterly unable to link the number of jobs created with each spending line item.
Even the CBO says that the recession will recover on its own in the 2nd half of 2009 if nothing is done at this time. Of course, that will end again in 2010-11 when the Bush tax cuts expire resulting in a hike in taxes across the board.
BTW - I’ve told the RNC that they will not see 1 cent from me if any RNC money goes towards any Republican who votes for this bill in either the House or Senate.
78 | LGoPs Mon, Feb 9, 2009 10:59:55am |
re: #6 Afrocity
Why is Obama back on the stump.
Will someone please tell this guy that he won the election.
The Whitehouse now wants to take over the census.Is it 666 Pennsylvania Avenue?
Even if it was the MFM would report it as 999……
/
79 | realwest Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:02:51am |
re: #77 Athos
Yep. And it’s astounding to me that Obama could have so MANY screw ups (see, e.g., Tom Daschle, et.al.) so quickly.
BTW, I have e-mailed Michael Steele at the RNC and said (after congratulating him!) pretty much the same thing you did, but I also mentioned Spector, Snowe, and Collins specifically.
81 | J.D. Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:15:34am |
82 | J.D. Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:18:48am |
re: #80 Iron Fist
OTOH, he is very vain. Who writes a memoir of their lives when they are, what, 27?
Exactly.
And one school I know of, and heaven only knows how many others, made these “memoirs” required reading! wth?
83 | Athos Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:19:07am |
re: #80 Iron Fist
Obama is a pure example of arrogance and hubris.
How will that makeup react to the implosion he is creating and the fact that he will ultimately join Carter as the worst President of the last 140 years?
84 | Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:29:05am |
re: #72 realwest
I honestly didn’t think even President Obama could screw up this badly
Mark Steyn on that subject.
“He is a community organizer like Jesus was,” said Susan Sarandon, “and now we’re a community, and he can organize us.”So how’s that going? Jesus took a handful of loaves and two fish and fed 5,000 people. Barack wants to take a trillion pieces of pork and feed it to a handful of Democratic Party interest groups.
85 | Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:32:31am |
re: #2 Honorary Yooper
Then maybe it’s time to cut off the power to Gaza until the twits get the point.
Or, just cut off the power, period. Let Hamas build their own power plants [cough]. It’s absurd that Israel should have to provide juice to people sworn to its destruction.
Once again, Totten’s work puts to shame that of the supposed headliner “journalists”.
86 | J.D. Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:34:25am |
re: #84 Occasional Reader
As it happens, the best way to ensure catastrophe is to “act now.” It would be nice if the world could all prance along in regimented unison like the Radio City Changettes. But, alas, the foreigners made the mistake of actually reading the “stimulus” bill, and the protectionist measures buried on page 739 subsection XII(d) ended, instantly, the Obama honeymoon overseas. The European Union has threatened a trade war. Up in Canada, provincial premiers called it “a march to insanity.” Wait a minute, I thought the Obama era was meant to be the retreat from insanity, a blessed return to multilateral transnational harmony.
As longtime readers will know, I’m all in favor of flipping the bird to the global community. But at least, when Rummy was doing his shtick about “Old Europe,” he did it intentionally. To cheese off the foreigners entirely accidentally before you’ve even had your first black-tie banquet is quite an accomplishment.
Love it.
87 | Dr. Shalit Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:37:29am |
re: #11 buzzsawmonkey
I suspect that they do see it; that it shames them; and that this exacerbates their pre-existing hostility.
buzz -
Perhaps they do, perhaps I have become hard in my “old age,” - I just see it as the classic response of “TAKING KINDNESS for WEAKNESS” which to me makes it a mistake to engage in such behavior.
-S-
88 | tradewind Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:52:05am |
I’m part of a study group that is examining Esther this session, and it could just not be more timely re the Gaza thing. Even for unbelievers or agnostic/atheists here, it’s a great read… and it is the one chapter in the Bible that actually doesn’t discuss theology… it’s strictly history.