Gregg Withdraws As Commerce Secretary

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A bit of a blow for President Hopenchange: DRUDGE REPORT: OBAMA BURNED: GREGG WITHDRAWS.

Sen. Gregg stated, “I want to thank the President for nominating me to serve in his Cabinet as Secretary of Commerce. This was a great honor, and I had felt that I could bring some views and ideas that would assist him in governing during this difficult time. I especially admire his willingness to reach across the aisle.

“However, it has become apparent during this process that this will not work for me as I have found that on issues such as the stimulus package and the Census there are irresolvable conflicts for me. Prior to accepting this post, we had discussed these and other potential differences, but unfortunately we did not adequately focus on these concerns. We are functioning from a different set of views on many critical items of policy.”

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273 comments
1 molding_perception  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 1:57:10pm

Must of paid his taxes…

2 Haole  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 1:57:14pm

Good, Now tell us what you saw over the cliff

3 the REAL  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 1:57:16pm

Just read this. Guess he doesn’t want to go down with a hope(andchange)fully 1 term President

4 Kragar  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 1:57:20pm

HOT DIGGITY DING DANG!

5 debutaunt  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 1:57:31pm

The census issue could be a big one.

6 loppyd  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 1:57:35pm

If he votes against the porkulus bill it will make my week.

7 leafsfan82  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 1:57:36pm

Commerce and marxism do not mix…

8 loppyd  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 1:57:56pm

re: #5 debutaunt

The census issue could be a big one.

I think that was the deal breaker.

9 tommygum  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 1:58:08pm

That showed fortitude.

Paying attention, Spector?

10 Nevergiveup  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 1:58:52pm

re: #9 tommygum

That showed fortitude.

Paying attention, Spector?

That’s a joke right?

11 Killer Tomato  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 1:59:14pm

YIPPIE!

12 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 1:59:35pm

VDH was right on the money: meltdown.

13 LGoPs  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 1:59:53pm

Specter, Snow and Collins. Are you watching this? You should be ashamed.

14 HippieforLife  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 1:59:56pm

Wow! To think, he actually had the balls to stand up to the O and say, no thanks, I don’t agree with you.

I applaud his decision.

Will he be getting a visit from re-education folks? //

15 mean Gene  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:00:11pm

re: #7 leafsfan82

Commerce and marxism do not mix…

Very good point.
I wonder if 0bama will change the name to something a bit more czar-ish?

16 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:00:29pm

Get ready for media coverage of hateful Republicans not cooperating with Change.

17 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:00:54pm

My wild guess: Gregg wanted the payroll tax cut, but Obama wouldn’t go for it. Too “pro-business”. Not socialist enough.

18 Dianna  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:01:54pm

re: #5 debutaunt

The census issue could be a big one.

Considering that the Constitution gives it to the legislature? Yes, you could say that.

19 walahi  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:02:01pm

re: #7 leafsfan82

Commerce and marxism do not mix…

No need for commerce in our hopenchange revolution….All will be taken care of by big government, big ideas and rousing speeches.

20 Maximu§  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:02:03pm

re: #7 leafsfan82

Commerce and marxism do not mix…

Amen to that.

21 jamgarr  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:02:20pm

Translation: Next time you try to gain political advantage by “reaching across the aisle” be sure that your campaign of undermining the effectiveness of your chosen opponent waits at least until he/she has moved into the office.

/Thanks but no thanks on your offer to be a hopenchange poster-boy.

22 Steve Rogers  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:02:21pm

The rats are starting to abandon the S.S. Obama.

23 Randall Gross  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:02:35pm

Good for Gregg — He’s not gonna put his name on the Dem’s census and gerrymandering initiative.

24 LGoPs  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:02:49pm

re: #16 Occasional Reader

Get ready for media coverage of hateful Republicans not cooperating with Change.

If they do we need to start burning up the phone lines to them and reminding them that they are not the Joseph Goebbels network…….

25 vagabond trader  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:03:18pm

He previously vowed to recuse himself from the porkpak vote.

26 Randall Gross  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:03:25pm

This is making the Dems own it fully.

27 Kragar  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:03:35pm

re: #22 Steve Rogers

The rats are starting to abandon the S.S. Obama.

I thought the rats were the ones who accepted Cabinet positions

28 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:03:42pm

bbiaw. Wife wants to go to the store.

29 jackfetch  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:04:29pm

I’m proud of Gregg, but it raises a question for me:

If Gregg’s appointment was the justification for commandeering the Census by the White House, how will they explain holding onto it now?

30 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:04:36pm

Later.

31 Last Mohican  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:04:55pm

re: #18 Dianna

Considering that the Constitution gives it to the legislature? Yes, you could say that.

Constitution? Are you gonna let a little thing like the Constitution get in the way of Change?

There are over two billion people living in the state of the Illinois. We need to make sure that they all get counted, in time to increase Illinois’ electoral votes by the 2012 election.

Yes we can!

32 MJ  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:05:11pm

Several “Republican” traitors are available:
Olympia Snowe
Susan Collins
Arlen Spector

33 babes  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:05:16pm

re: #9 tommygum

That showed fortitude.

Paying attention, Spector?

Take some lessons Arlen - this is what personal ethics looks like.

34 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:05:23pm

” We are functioning from a different set of views on many critical items of policy. Obviously the President requires a team that is fully supportive of all his initiatives.” - Gregg

That’s a politician’s way of saying, “It’s not you it’s me.”

35 vagabond trader  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:05:27pm

He knew what The Obama was about, should never have accepted a cabinet post.

36 DeafDog  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:05:31pm

re: #21 jamgarr

Translation: Next time you try to gain political advantage by “reaching across the aisle” be sure that your campaign of undermining the effectiveness of your chosen opponent waits at least until he/she has moved into the office.

/Thanks but no thanks on your offer to be a hopenchange poster-boy.


He played it much more effectively with Hillary.

37 Hydrocarbon Hank  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:05:45pm

Best news of the day.

38 Killer Tomato  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:05:49pm

Should I send flowers?
Candy?
Does Hallmark make a card for this?

(Dear Senator,
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you….)

39 filetandrelease  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:06:01pm

re: #12 Kenneth

VDH was right on the money: meltdown.

Are you thinking this could be the beginning? Either way, this will leave a mark.

40 vxbush  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:06:02pm

re: #29 jackfetch

I’m proud of Gregg, but it raises a question for me:

If Gregg’s appointment was the justification for commandeering the Census by the White House, how will they explain holding onto it now?

Oh, don’t worry. I’m sure some excuse can be made [up]. It won’t take long….

41 LGoPs  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:06:04pm

re: #26 Thanos

This is making the Dems own it fully.

With the exception of the 3 stooges. I’d love to see the new RNC Chairman, Steele, make a public disavowal of Specter, Snowe and Collins. He’d be my everlasting hero if he did.

42 wee fury  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:06:21pm

I’m happy.

43 walahi  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:06:28pm

Don’t worry I am sure Obama will explain it all away that this ‘old Washington thinking that got us into this mess’ is just a hard stain to remove. Cue sympathetic reports and the news cycle to blast Gregg to smithereens.

44 Hydrocarbon Hank  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:06:46pm

re: #41 LGoPs


I’ll second that.

45 rawmuse  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:06:56pm

Good call, Mr. Gregg. We are also known by the company we keep.

46 Capitalist Tool  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:07:10pm

To whomever shall be Commerce Secretary:
Why does no one seems to be talking about the fact that the huge run- up in the price of oil was largely responsible for the world’s present economic woes?

47 vagabond trader  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:07:11pm

Or maybe he wants to spend more time with his family.

48 simonml  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:07:15pm

I’m glad to see no Republicans want to take part in President Obama’s transgressions.

On a related note I had a colleague of mine admonish me for that thought by saying, “…but Robert Gates is a Republican.”

Obamaniacs just believe whatever they want, huh?

49 TooDamNice  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:07:21pm

Awesome news!

50 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:07:32pm

Exactly what was the problem with the census?

51 loppyd  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:07:43pm

This is awesomely awesome. I can’t wait to watch the MSM later…..

52 Right mind left  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:07:44pm

Hope there is no backlash (literally?!?) for his rejection of “the One”.

How much was he told about “the grand plan” I wonder…

53 Maui Girl  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:07:44pm

Isnt’ that the second person to pass on the Commerce Secretary position?

54 DeafDog  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:07:51pm

Robert Gates, pay attention please.

When the policy shifts, get out before the disaster strikes.

55 lincolntf  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:08:12pm

Hi all.

So have the KosKids/MSM come up with a faux-story or conspiracy theory that makes this development somehow a positive about/for Obama?

56 Last Mohican  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:08:24pm

re: #43 walahi

Don’t worry I am sure Obama will explain it all away that this ‘old Washington thinking that got us into this mess’ is just a hard stain to remove. Cue sympathetic reports and the news cycle to blast Gregg to smithereens.

“More partisan politics as usual from Gregg”

57 rightymouse  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:08:31pm

Senator Gregg has just shown much-needed GOP backbone. That’s more than I can say for Snowe, Collins and Specter.

58 jamgarr  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:09:00pm

I wonder if this makes Obama suffer from post-partisan depression.

59 ArmyWife  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:09:07pm

Good for Gregg. Obama needed a token R to go along with this schemes so he could share the blame should it go south. He has 3 amigos for the spendulous package. Hope the census part of his speech will at least get people to begin to look into that a bit more whether Gregg gets run over by the bus or not.

60 Last Mohican  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:09:26pm

re: #55 lincolntf

Hi all.

So have the KosKids/MSM come up with a faux-story or conspiracy theory that makes this development somehow a positive about/for Obama?

Seems like an easy story to write. Obama reaches across the aisle. Republicans refuse to be bipartisan.

61 albusteve  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:09:40pm

re: #53 Maui Girl

Isnt’ that the second person to pass on the Commerce Secretary position?

yes…Bill Richardson was dirty and under investigation

62 Yashmak  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:09:45pm

It’s nice to see there are still a few on the left side of the fence who have some perspective.

63 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:09:45pm

re: #39 filetandrelease

It began with the tax evaders, continued when Obama drove the nail in bipartisan cooperation with his “I won” attitude. Then the “press conference” where he threatened the country with catastrophe if they didn’t pass the Porkzilla bill immediately… the pattern is set. Obama’s approach to problems is alarming.

64 babes  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:09:45pm

re: #41 LGoPs

With the exception of the 3 stooges. I’d love to see the new RNC Chairman, Steele, make a public disavowal of Specter, Snowe and Collins. He’d be my everlasting hero if he did.

Yes, Michael Steele now is the time to really show your stuff.

65 rightymouse  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:09:50pm

re: #50 EmmmieG

Exactly what was the problem with the census?


Obama wants to move the census under the auspices of the White House - Rahm, to be precise. The census is the domain of the Dept. of Commerce and Obama/Rahm are up to no good.

66 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:10:12pm

Another ray of sanity in a world gone crazy:

Pope Benedict XVI: Holocaust denial unacceptable

67 Capitalist Tool  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:10:16pm

re: #56 Last Mohican

“More partisan politics as usual from Gregg”

Go ahead and give ‘em some ideas, why dontcha…

68 vxbush  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:10:24pm

re: #50 EmmmieG

Exactly what was the problem with the census?

Some folks were upset that a Republican would be in charge of the census, as it usually falls to Commerce to run. So that’s why Obama said Emmanuel would run the census. As if that was going to make it less political.

69 albusteve  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:10:59pm

re: #54 DeafDog

Robert Gates, pay attention please.

When the policy shifts, get out before the disaster strikes.

right..abandoned by his SecDef…too cool man!….push some more

70 lamaestra  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:11:34pm

Just a thought…although I am happy he has principals and lives by them, wouldn’t we have been better off having him “work on the inside”? Maybe he would have shined a light on their shenanigans.

71 simonml  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:11:39pm

re: #61 albusteve

yes…Bill Richardson is/was/always will be dirty and under investigation

Fixed it for you!

72 tommygum  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:12:26pm

re: #50 EmmmieG

Exactly what was the problem with the census?

It’s not corrupt enough.

DC’s running on Chiago time now.

73 bulwrk  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:12:27pm

re: #55 lincolntf

Hi all.

So have the KosKids/MSM come up with a faux-story or conspiracy theory that makes this development somehow a positive about/for Obama?

Yes actually they have

Gregg is pissed because Obama was not going to allow him to rig the census.

74 samsgran1948  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:12:51pm

re: #41 LGoPs

With the exception of the 3 stooges. I’d love to see the new RNC Chairman, Steele, make a public disavowal of Specter, Snowe and Collins. He’d be my everlasting hero if he did.

I was so mad I did something I’d never done before: Fired off an email to the RNC to complain.

75 brookly red  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:12:57pm

re: #65 rightymouse

Obama wants to move the census under the auspices of the White House - Rahm, to be precise. The census is the domain of the Dept. of Commerce and Obama/Rahm are up to no good.

I think they might outsource it to ACORN.

76 turn  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:13:01pm

I ran Gregg’s withdrawl through the Universal Translator, it comes back “Your ship is sinking, I’m not getting on board”

77 DeafDog  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:13:05pm

re: #65 rightymouse

Obama wants to move the census under the auspices of the White House - Rahm, to be precise. The census is the domain of the Dept. of Commerce and Obama/Rahm are up to no good.

They could almost solve that problem by appointing Rahm to Commerce. Too bad Rahm’s a tax cheat and would never be confirmed.

78 capitalist piglet  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:13:11pm

re: #35 vagabond trader

He knew what The Obama was about, should never have accepted a cabinet post.

Perhaps he thought he could make more of a difference on the inside rather than the outside, but on further reflection realized that was not the case.

79 Last Mohican  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:13:49pm

re: #66 FurryOldGuyJeans

Another ray of sanity in a world gone crazy:

Pope Benedict XVI: Holocaust denial unacceptable

And there’s this too:
Pope confirms Israel visit

Confirming that he would soon visit Israel, Pope Benedict XVI reiterated that denial of the Holocaust was “altogether unacceptable.” … “It is beyond question that any denial or minimization of this terrible crime is intolerable and altogether unacceptable,” the pope told the leaders.

“The Church is profoundly and irrevocably committed to reject all anti-Semitism, and to continue to build good and lasting relations between our two communities.”

80 ArmyWife  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:14:01pm

re: #43 walahi

No doubt. We will get a big speech on how Obama is trying just so hard to include those Republicans. He has tried to reach across the aisle, and they just bite his hand. He doesn’t want his hand to be bitten any longer, therefore he isn’t going to be reaching in the future. The Republicans better not complain, they had their chance to be a part of this, they chose not too, it’s on them.

Only Obama’s speech will be about 3 hours long because he will need to get all the uhs and umms in there.

81 walahi  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:14:11pm

re: #70 lamaestra

I think the plan is clear and no conveivable benefit would be garnered from being attached to this mess. This census controversy is a taste of joys yet to come from the White House in the next four years. I think Gregg maybe saw a little down the road and bailed out while the bailing was good.

82 filetandrelease  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:14:27pm

re: #63 Kenneth
Lets not forget the unclinched fist that bitched slapped him.

83 Dianna  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:14:28pm

re: #77 DeafDog

They could almost solve that problem by appointing Rahm to Commerce. Too bad Rahm’s a tax cheat and would never be confirmed.

After Geithner?!

84 Capitalist Tool  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:14:49pm

I actually watched a couple of the Town Hall things where the Pres. poured honey and spilled milk for the little folk-
That guy is such a lightweight.

85 rightymouse  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:14:51pm

re: #75 brookly red

I think they might outsource it to ACORN.

Would not be surprised AT all.

86 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:14:56pm

re: #63 Kenneth

It began with the tax evaders, continued when Obama drove the nail in bipartisan cooperation with his “I won” attitude. Then the “press conference” where he threatened the country with catastrophe if they didn’t pass the Porkzilla bill immediately… the pattern is set. Obama’s approach to problems is alarming.

What is interesting is that things seem to be improving even without the Porkulus:

U.S. Retail Sales Unexpectedly Halt Six-Month Slide (Update2)

New jobless claims drop slightly to 623,000

And we also have:

World stocks sag on concerns about Obama plans

How many Americans will hear this from the FMSM:

GOP’S STEELE: Stop The Spending Spree…

87 LGoPs  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:14:58pm

re: #54 DeafDog

Robert Gates, pay attention please.

When the policy shifts, get out before the disaster strikes.

What a strong message that would send if Gates also stepped down. Even though the Democrats won, many of the American people realize that this isn’t a dictatorship and the republicans publicly removing themselves from any association with these extreme leftists would get attention and maybe even generate some skepticism to overcome this cloud of idol worship that we’re under.
Oh and by the way…….start using the word extremist in every reference to Obama’s policies. Every one of the Republicans (except for the 3 stooges - who are hopeless) need to start labeling democrats extremist. There is fertile ground out there for those words and the media will try to downplay it but if every comment includes those words it will be hard to edit out……..
Sorry for the ramble………

88 simonml  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:15:05pm

re: #75 brookly red

I think they might outsource it to ACORN.

ACORN would find a way to count three dozen people in the Southern States and billions in the Northern States. And it would all be legit b/c they did it a week before the next election

89 bulwrk  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:15:15pm

re: #60 Last Mohican

Bingo I read the Politico comment section on the story and that was the favorite.

90 faraway  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:15:40pm

re: #87 LGoPs

The word ‘Socialist’ will stick

91 Soona'  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:16:24pm

re: #33 babes

Take some lessons Arlen - this is what personal ethics looks like.

Yeah, Arlen. If you or any of your staff is monitoring this thread, I’ll give you Gregg’s office phone number.

92 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:16:34pm

They’re going to put
Hildegrin the Badger
in charge of the census (and voting registration)

(Hildegrin is called a badger because he digs up bodies, usually for Vodalus, in Gene Wolfe’s Book of the New Sun tetralogy)

93 turn  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:16:44pm

re: #86 FurryOldGuyJeans

There was also the trade deficit at a very low level.

94 itellu3times  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:16:47pm

re: #3 the REAL

Just read this. Guess he doesn’t want to go down with a hope(andchange)fully 1 term month President

fixed

95 DeafDog  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:17:07pm

re: #70 lamaestra

Just a thought…although I am happy he has principals and lives by them, wouldn’t we have been better off having him “work on the inside”? Maybe he would have shined a light on their shenanigans.


I doubt he would ever truly be “inside”

He’d be a stooge/fall guy.

If the Commerce Secretary Nominee is telling the Prez what business needs in the stimulous package and said nominee gets the “talk to the hand” treatment, you know it will only go down from there.

96 rightymouse  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:17:22pm

re: #77 DeafDog

They could almost solve that problem by appointing Rahm to Commerce. Too bad Rahm’s a tax cheat and would never be confirmed.

Fffftttt…when did that stop a confirmation?

97 mean Gene  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:17:23pm

re: #92 Kosh’s Shadow

They’re going to put
Hildegrin the Badger
in charge of the census (and voting registration)

(Hildegrin is called a badger because he digs up bodies, usually for Vodalus, in Gene Wolfe’s Book of the New Sun tetralogy)

OK, but remind me, how many is a ”tetralogy?”

98 vagabond trader  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:17:36pm

re: #78 capitalist piglet

I don’t know much about Gregg, but with the R’s running a deficit in the senate, he can do the most good there,possibly holding D feet to the fire. Besides that, do you believe The Obama was going to actually listen to him? I think that was answered today.

99 loppyd  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:17:40pm

Off to grocery shop.

Latah Tatahs

100 simonml  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:17:45pm

re: #87 LGoPs

What a strong message that would send if Gates also stepped down. Even though the Democrats won, many of the American people realize that this isn’t a dictatorship and the republicans publicly removing themselves from any association with these extreme leftists would get attention and maybe even generate some skepticism to overcome this cloud of idol worship that we’re under.
Oh and by the way…….start using the word extremist in every reference to Obama’s policies. Every one of the Republicans (except for the 3 stooges - who are hopeless) need to start labeling democrats extremist. There is fertile ground out there for those words and the media will try to downplay it but if every comment includes those words it will be hard to edit out……..
Sorry for the ramble………

I agree, but just a clarification, Gates is not a Republican. Nor is he a Democrat. He’s a lifelong Independent. Not a well known fact b/c the media didn’t want Bush to do anything right.

101 Last Mohican  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:17:51pm

re: #97 mean Gene

OK, but remind me, how many is a ”tetralogy?”

4

102 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:18:28pm

re: #78 capitalist piglet

Perhaps he thought he could make more of a difference on the inside rather than the outside, but on further reflection realized that was not the case.

I do believe he saw all the influence Hillary will have as SecState, and didn’t like being a Token Republican scapegoat.

103 Dainn  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:18:31pm

Bipartisanship according to the Democrats: listening to Republican opinions, giving them a seat at the table, then proceeding with the left-wing agenda. It’s like when my kids listen to every word I say, nod in agreement, then go do whatever they wanted anyways.

I’m happy that Gregg is pulling out. It was such an obvious farse when the took away the Census.

104 Wendya  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:18:53pm

re: #17 Kenneth

My wild guess: Gregg wanted the payroll tax cut, but Obama wouldn’t go for it. Too “pro-business”. Not socialist enough.

Yeah, didn’t he know Obama wanted a commerce secretary who wanted to screw the American businessman?

/

105 LGoPs  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:19:00pm

re: #34 Kenneth

” We are functioning from a different set of views on many critical items of policy. Obviously the President requires a team that is fully supportive of all his initiatives.” - Gregg

That’s a politician’s way of saying, “It’s not you it’s me.”

And it’s a civilian person’s way of saying “Go fuck yourself and the horse you rode in on”

106 KenJen  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:19:02pm

re: #75 brookly red

I think they might outsource it to ACORN.

They already have the perfect acronym. America’s Census is Obama’s to Run Now.

107 DeafDog  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:19:05pm

re: #83 Dianna

After Geithner?!

3 have already fallen since Gaitner. I think the Senate realizes the mistake they made with Taxcheat Timmy

108 RaiderDan  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:19:07pm

Gates has an opportunity to exit as well, when President Obama throws the obligatory bone to the gay-rights mafia and ends “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.”

That being said, he should have resigned the moment Obama dropped the charges on the Al Qaeda operative being held for bombing the USS Cole….

Still got a chance, Gates….

109 mean Gene  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:19:09pm

re: #101 Last Mohican

4

Thanks, the books sound interesting.
I’ll get the first one and go from there.

110 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:19:12pm

re: #93 turn

There was also the trade deficit at a very low level.

That is not good news, per se, since that really says there is no buying going on.

111 Killian Bundy  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:19:15pm

re: #86 FurryOldGuyJeans

Remember This Catchphrase: “Maybe Too Little, Always Too Late”

/they never learn from history

112 faraway  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:19:48pm

Mr. Leg Tingler: You are boring me to death with this census talk.

113 Last Mohican  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:20:12pm

re: #98 vagabond trader

I don’t know much about Gregg, but with the R’s running a deficit in the senate, he can do the most good there,possibly holding D feet to the fire. Besides that, do you believe The Obama was going to actually listen to him? I think that was answered today.

Well, the story I read was that the Governor of New Hampshire, John Lynch, a Democrat, was planning to appoint a Republican replacement for Gregg if he left the senate. Just because it would be a really swell and fair thing to do.

114 turn  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:20:26pm

re: #103 Dainn

cool Mandelbrot you got there D

115 vagabond trader  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:20:41pm

So transparent, get an R into commerce, take away the census, blame commerce/Rs.These guys are dirty, filthy dirty.

116 DeafDog  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:21:19pm

re: #99 loppyd

Off to grocery shop.

Latah Tatahs

Bodacious tatas back at ya!

/duck and cover

117 LGoPs  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:21:20pm

re: #100 simonml

I agree, but just a clarification, Gates is not a Republican. Nor is he a Democrat. He’s a lifelong Independent. Not a well known fact b/c the media didn’t want Bush to do anything right.

Thanks for the clarification….. :)
Still, if he’s a man of honor, which I expect he is, and he sees what’s coming for the military there’s no more courageous or patriotic an act he could perform for his country and the men and women serving under his supervision….

118 faraway  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:21:22pm

President Obama (beta)

119 brookly red  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:21:23pm

re: #106 KenJen

They already have the perfect acronym. America’s Census is Obama’s to Run Now.

sigh, true that.

120 sngnsgt  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:21:47pm

The mice are jumping off a sinking ship.

121 turn  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:21:48pm

re: #110 FurryOldGuyJeans

Doesn’t it also me we are importing less and exporting more? Oh well, I know about the economy as Timmy …

122 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:21:53pm

People used to complain about an Imperial President with Nixon and GWB. O’s theft of who oversees the census is so blatant of a Constitutional violation on the Separation of Powers enshrined in the document.

123 simonml  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:22:11pm

re: #113 Last Mohican

Well, the story I read was that the Governor of New Hampshire, John Lynch, a Democrat, was planning to appoint a Republican replacement for Gregg if he left the senate. Just because it would be a really swell and fair thing to do.

He’d probably appoint a crook of a Republican or a RINO from that great state

124 turn  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:22:38pm

re: #121 turn

mean turn

125 brookly red  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:22:40pm

re: #106 KenJen

They already have the perfect acronym. America’s Census is Obama’s to Run Now.

all your districts are belong to us.

126 Soona'  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:22:42pm

re: #115 vagabond trader

So transparent, get an R into commerce, take away the census, blame commerce/Rs.These guys are dirty, filthy dirty.

Me thinks somehow Michael Steele might have made a phone call?

127 loppyd  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:22:47pm

re: #116 DeafDog

Bodacious tatas back at ya!

/duck and cover

LOL - still cry every time I watch that movie.

WAY TO GO PAULA!

Phone rang on my way out. Now I’m really gone.

128 HippieforLife  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:23:04pm

This means that there is still a chance that my beloved (not) governor, queen Christine could possibly be back in the running for the job.

I know that many in Washington state would be more than happy to see her go east.

129 walahi  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:23:11pm

re: #102 FurryOldGuyJeans

I do believe he saw all the influence Hillary will have as SecState, and didn’t like being a Token Republican scapegoat.

Well what better Republican fall guy than the SecComm? When Porkulus starts getting implemented and the economy starts stagnating and problems are abound, guess who’d be the target of righteous indignation from President Obama? And the media would take its cues and we’d here how Gregg’s tenure was rife with corruption and malfeasence, with the dual aim that he is a habitual Republican and to try and derail the “Hopenchange” love fest that is this Bolshevik revolution, I mean, presidency.

130 albusteve  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:23:22pm

re: #122 FurryOldGuyJeans

People used to complain about an Imperial President with Nixon and GWB. O’s theft of who oversees the census is so blatant of a Constitutional violation on the Separation of Powers enshrined in the document.

like a rooster…strutting around, making a racket, constantly looking for something to fuck

131 summergurl  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:23:35pm

re: #8 loppyd

I think that was the deal breaker.

He specifically mentioned the Census - the American public (as a whole) does not fully understand the ramifications of moving the census under WH control - but he does.

Good for him.

132 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:23:44pm

re: #121 turn

Doesn’t it also me we are importing less and exporting more? Oh well, I know about the economy as Timmy …

We are doing both less, just importing a whole lot more. What is happening is not a rational way to cut the trade deficit.

133 faraway  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:24:10pm

He’s wimping out.

134 vagabond trader  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:24:21pm

re: #126 Soona’

Then he also needs to call the other rinos.My governor,Jody Rell/R needs a jingle too.

135 midwestgak  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:24:41pm

Gregg speaking now.

136 summergurl  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:24:42pm

re: #132 FurryOldGuyJeans

We are doing both less, just importing a whole lot more. What is happening is not a rational way to cut the trade deficit.


Retail sales figures out today - up 1%

small increase , but up is up

137 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:24:45pm

re: #97 mean Gene

OK, but remind me, how many is a ”tetralogy?”

Four. The fifth, “The Urth of the New Sun” is considered a separate work.
The four are
“The Shadow of the Torturer”
“The Claw of the Conciliator”
“The Sword of the Lictor”
“The Citadel of the Autarch”

These books have somewhat messianic, and possibly Christian, themes, but this Jew enjoyed them.

However, they have some quite disturbing scenes, even in the beginning; the torturers (excuse me, members of the Guild of Seekers of Truth and Penitence”) perform more than waterboarding or the Comfy Chair.

138 Cato  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:25:08pm

Worst. Administration. Ever.

139 midwestgak  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:25:28pm

Couldn’t be 100% part of the team. Curious.

140 Last Mohican  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:25:50pm

re: #123 simonml

He’d probably appoint a crook of a Republican or a RINO from that great state

My guess: at the last minute, he would have cited some terrible Republican misdeed that required him to change his mind and appoint Al Sharpton to the senate instead. That seems to be how Democrats are rolling these days.

141 Soona'  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:26:41pm

re: #134 vagabond trader

Then he also needs to call the other rinos.My governor,Jody Rell/R needs a jingle too.

Another thought just hit me. The zero will recover from this by nominating, who else? Arlen Spector.

142 turn  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:26:58pm

re: #132 FurryOldGuyJeans

Thanks, the lower cost of imported oil must have had a lot to do with it too. BTW, ya see the pic of O up at Drudge? Man he looks pissed.

143 Capitalist Tool  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:27:20pm

re: #141 Soona’

Another thought just hit me. The zero will recover from this by nominating, who else? Arlen Spector.

…and he would take it.

144 Dianna  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:27:26pm

re: #107 DeafDog

We can only hope.

145 tommygum  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:27:37pm

We need a new name for Spector.

146 simonml  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:27:41pm

re: #138 Cato

Worst. Administration. Ever.

Youtube Video
147 lostlakehiker  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:27:46pm

When a general resigns his commission rather than obey an order, he’s saying that he’d rather be thrown to a pack of rabid dogs than relay that order to his forces.

Gregg evidently came to the conclusion that his name would be used to lipstick the upcoming census pig.

148 faraway  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:27:51pm

Now blaming it on his personality - not the census or other issues

Good lord.

149 calcajun  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:27:58pm

The wheels are not coming off, but the lug nuts sure are loose,

150 capitalist piglet  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:28:02pm

re: #98 vagabond trader

I don’t know much about Gregg, but with the R’s running a deficit in the senate, he can do the most good there,possibly holding D feet to the fire. Besides that, do you believe The Obama was going to actually listen to him? I think that was answered today.

No, I don’t believe Obama regarded him as anything more than a token.

151 vagabond trader  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:28:08pm

re: #141 Soona’

Perfect, a brain dead hack.

Seriously, old biddy sayeth something doth smell here.

152 albusteve  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:28:09pm

re: #141 Soona’

Another thought just hit me. The zero will recover from this by nominating, who else? Arlen Spector.

no senator in their right mind would give up the seat for commerce…imo…but you never know anymore

153 KenJen  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:28:20pm

re: #125 brookly red

all your districts are belong to us.

They better keep their dirty hands off my districts. Let them play around with their own.

154 faraway  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:28:34pm

the census was only a ‘slight issue’

155 marge45b  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:28:40pm

The Commerce Sec. position must be jinxed. Good for Gregg to drop the nomination. Don’t want to be connected to the Obamanation!

156 Edouard  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:28:54pm

Gregg was nominated when the Dems were legitimately worried about a Republican filibuster on their precious “stimulus.” To take him out of the equation meant that they had less work to do to beat back a filibuster. Gregg was obliged to abstain from senate voting on cloture and the bill vote.

Of course, the Dems’ work was further successful when they peeled off not one, but three RINO chumps to successfully block all Senate Republican countermeasures and shut up the debate that America badly needs on a bill that appears to be catastrophic for this nation. Gregg was not ultimately needed to be locked in the closet by the Democrats, although for a few days it appeared locking him up would be helpful.

I am glad that Gregg overcame this exercise in deeply cynical politics and withdrew. I hope he learned a lesson about staying stalwart for the opposition party, which badly needs stalwarts.

157 tommygum  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:28:55pm

Douche nozzle is already taken.

James Earl Douche nozzle.

158 brookly red  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:28:58pm

re: #141 Soona’

Another thought just hit me. The zero will recover from this by nominating, who else? Arlen Spector.

What, & lose a vote in the senate?

159 Dainn  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:29:05pm

re: #114 turn

Thanks. I forget where I made it but there are a number of sites you can do it these days. :)

160 sngnsgt  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:29:12pm

re: #149 calcajun

The wheels are not coming off, but the lug nuts sure are loose,

And the holes are getting ‘wallered’ out.

161 midwestgak  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:29:21pm

re: #147 lostlakehiker

Gregg evidently came to the conclusion that his name would be used to lipstick the upcoming census pig.

Very well stated.

162 AmericanPoliticalOrphan  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:29:31pm

As Kelso on that 70s show would say: “BURN”

God’s comedy show starting the Democrats continues unabated. Amazing!

163 turn  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:29:39pm

re: #145 tommygum

We need a new name for Spector.

Sphincter?

164 silvergirl  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:29:59pm

re: #22 Steve Rogers

The rats are starting to abandon the S.S. Obama.

S.S.= Sinking Ship

165 right_wing2  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:30:18pm

Good for Sen. Gregg!

Of course, he’ll be criticized for being partisan, mean spirited, hatefull and racist.

166 claspur  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:30:33pm

….and the line in Vegas now is…. if Barry can fill his cabinet in His first-hundred days…
It was 8-5… let me get back on that….. *sigh

167 turn  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:30:39pm

re: #159 Dainn

Thanks. I forget where I made it but there are a number of sites you can do it these days. :)

Read Chaos years ago, was fascinated with that stuff.

168 Pigtown Water Dog  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:30:58pm

re: #142 turn

You’re right—he is an actual match for Michelle ma belle in that photo. If I were his children, I’d eat my veggies and do my homework in order not to get that look.

169 albusteve  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:30:59pm

re: #142 turn

Thanks, the lower cost of imported oil must have had a lot to do with it too. BTW, ya see the pic of O up at Drudge? Man he looks pissed.

great pic!…hahaha!….burned again

170 right_wing2  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:31:34pm

re: #149 calcajun

The wheels are not coming off, but the lug nuts sure are loose,

fixed

171 sngnsgt  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:31:37pm

re: #163 turn

That’s what we here in PA call him. I can’t wait to move from this state. In 18 more days, I’ll be gone!

172 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:31:42pm

re: #145 tommygum

We need a new name for Spector.

Arlan Spinchter?

173 lobo91  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:31:45pm

re: #123 simonml

He’d probably appoint a crook of a Republican or a RINO from that great state

Actually, it was already announced that he was going to appoint Gregg’s chief of staff to the seat, who was going to agree not to run when the next election comes around.

174 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:31:46pm

re: #132 FurryOldGuyJeans

We are doing both less, just importing a whole lot more less. What is happening is not a rational way to cut the trade deficit.

PIMF! *sigh*

Both importing and exporting are down. Importing is down more than exporting since Americans have scaled back on buying.

175 Soona'  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:31:47pm

re: #158 brookly red

What, & lose a vote in the senate?

They still have Snowe and what’s-his-name.

176 tommygum  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:31:52pm

re: #163 turn

Sphincter?

Arlen Sphincter.

Hmmmmm.

Has a nice ring to it.

177 rightymouse  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:32:29pm

re: #163 turn

Sphincter?

Good one. When he was on Hannity’s radio show earlier this week (Monday, IIRC), I don’t think I’ve heard more crap come out of a person’s mouth than Specter. It was mind-boggling.

178 turn  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:32:35pm

re: #171 sngnsgt

That’s what we here in PA call him. I can’t wait to move from this state. In 18 more days, I’ll be gone!

Where ya going?

179 HoosierHoops  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:32:38pm

Good Afternoon Lizards..
I’ll take the position in Obama’s cabinet.. I have no experience but what the hay..He doesn’t have any either..

180 midwestgak  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:32:43pm

re: #163 turn

Sphincter?

Ghost? Goblin? Probably not a new thought, but new to me. heh

181 right_wing2  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:32:51pm

Census suggestion: When you get to the question asking ‘race’ fill in ‘Human’ or ‘American’.

182 vagabond trader  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:33:15pm

re: #179 HoosierHoops

If you are a tax delinquent, all the better.

183 the other Amy  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:33:17pm

the census thing was really bad as I understood it.

If it is done in the Commerce department the rules about how it would be conducted are public knowledge. If it is conducted by the White House they do not have to explain the rules of how the census is conducted.
I remember there was a move (has it already been done?) to no longer actually count people, but rather to statistically estimate our population.
Gee, no chance the “statistics” could be tweaked, eh?

184 turn  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:33:51pm

re: #172 Honorary Yooper

Arlan Spinchter?


See my #163. Must be an engineering thing Yoop!

185 Golem Akbar  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:34:45pm

Gregg was the key Republican vote, and the (Dem) governor of his state said he would appoint another Republican, but no one believed him. Gregg’s staying in the senate means Republicans can block democrat’s legislation, now. Yay.

186 Fat Jolly Penguin  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:34:57pm

OT:

I got my stamp today. :D

187 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:35:01pm

re: #136 summergurl

Retail sales figures out today - up 1%

small increase , but up is up

I posted a link to that earlier.

U.S. Retail Sales Unexpectedly Halt Six-Month Slide (Update2)

All the good economic news, coincidentally or not not, happens to be occurring simply because O was not yet inaugurated. The figures POST-inauguration have yet to be compiled and published.

188 turn  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:35:26pm

re: #177 rightymouse

Good one. When he was on Hannity’s radio show earlier this week (Monday, IIRC), I don’t think I’ve heard more crap come out of a person’s mouth ass than Specter. It was mind-boggling.

Hey where did you think I came up with Sphincter anyway? Ha!

189 LGoPs  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:35:38pm

re: #179 HoosierHoops

Good Afternoon Lizards..
I’ll take the position in Obama’s cabinet.. I have no experience but what the hay..He doesn’t have any either..

Did you pay your taxes? If you did, you’re disqualified and will be drummed out of the Democratic Party (if you’re a member)…..only fools and tools pay their taxes.
/ :)

190 ArmyWife  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:35:42pm

From DU:

Why, was he afraid of some scandal breaking?

Didn’t pay his taxes? Liked to pay prostitutes to put him in diapers?

Seriously, why did he accept in the first place?

It certainly couldn’t be because Obama is an idiot and didn’t want to be a part of the impending litigation considering it’s pretty clear who has ownership of the Census!

191 LGoPs  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:36:13pm

re: #182 vagabond trader

If you are a tax delinquent, all the better.

Beat me to it……GMTA
:)

192 Pigtown Water Dog  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:36:54pm

re: #186 Fat Jolly Penguin

I ordered one, too. Oh, what fun we’ll have…

193 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:37:46pm

re: #142 turn

Thanks, the lower cost of imported oil must have had a lot to do with it too. BTW, ya see the pic of O up at Drudge? Man he looks pissed.

Oil may be going down, but the price at the pump is rising. Less cash to spend on imported luxuries.

O is so a petulant child being told he can’t have another cookie before dinner.

194 DeafDog  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:38:33pm

re: #176 tommygum

Arlen Sphincter.

Hmmmmm.

Has a nice ring to it.

A. Sphincter is even better

195 turn  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:39:07pm

re: #193 FurryOldGuyJeans

Oil may be going down, but the price at the pump is rising. Less cash to spend on imported luxuries.

O is so a petulant child being told he can’t have another cookie before dinner.

If you were describing the look on his face you absolutely nailed it.

196 rightymouse  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:39:14pm

re: #188 turn

Hey where did you think I came up with Sphincter anyway? Ha!


He’s an ass. lol!

197 claspur  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:40:00pm

re: #180 midwestgak

Ghost? Goblin? Probably not a new thought, but new to me. heh

198 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:40:01pm

I hope Senator Gregg paid all of his taxes … because if he didn’t, he should expect to be audited on his 2008 tax return.

199 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:40:26pm

re: #195 turn

If you were describing the look on his face you absolutely nailed it.

I was describing that look. A look he has been shown wearing more and more lately.

200 midwestgak  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:41:03pm

re: #197 claspur

Did you have a comment? :)

201 HoosierHoops  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:41:33pm

re: #191 LGoPs

Beat me to it……GMTA
:)

I’d better stop paying my taxes..It’s really screwing with my career path.

202 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:41:58pm

re: #198 _RememberTonyC

I hope Senator Gregg paid all of his taxes … because if he didn’t, he should expect to be audited on his 2008 tax return.

Even if he had he will get audited. Special tax audits are a Dem favorite tactic.

203 turn  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:42:50pm

re: #199 FurryOldGuyJeans

I was describing that look. A look he has been shown wearing more and more lately.

Spoiled child denied another cookie, I’ll use that many times from here on out Mr. Jeans.

G’nite all, time to go walk the lab along the American.

204 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:43:04pm

re: #202 FurryOldGuyJeans

Even if he had he will get audited. Special tax audits are a Dem favorite tactic.

to quote the kids from “South Park” … “those bastards.”

205 claspur  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:43:23pm

re: #200 midwestgak

yeah but who cares no more? ;o)

206 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:43:26pm

re: #197 claspur

Making NO comment might have been your best comment yet.

207 midwestgak  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:44:35pm

re: #205 claspur

yeah but who cares no more? ;o)

gak cares. :)

208 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:45:14pm

re: #207 midwestgak

gak cares. :)

Klingon food cares? Cares how? And about what? ;)

209 HoosierHoops  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:45:26pm

re: #207 midwestgak

gak cares. :)

Hi Gak! hope today finds you well

210 claspur  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:46:37pm

re: #206 FurryOldGuyJeans

You guys are starting to remind me of the ppl they had behind the fence at Peavy Plaza years ago, before we jumped into Iraq.

211 Pigtown Water Dog  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:47:50pm

re: #197 claspur

Yes. Ghost made me upding you.

212 John_in_VA  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:48:06pm

You’d like to think that Gregg must have finally come around to the realization that -
1) The “stimulus” is just the usual Dem push for big government takeover
2) White House “involvement” in the census doesn’t quite fit under Article 1 of the Constitution (unless you consult Joe Biden)
But more probably, he realized that given RINOs Snowe, Specter, et al, he wasn’t going to be in a position to block legislation OR get much free network air time after all.

213 jemima  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:48:31pm

Contact form for Senator Gregg

[Link: gregg.senate.gov…]

214 Gretchen  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:48:59pm

I love Obama’s “bipartisan efforts”. Bipartisan doesn’t mean Democrats write a socialist bill filled with gifts for donors and government-dependent voters, then tell Republicans they have to vote for it or they aren’t bipartisan. It doesn’t mean you appoint someone who is Republican then take away all power and decision making.

215 midwestgak  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:51:44pm

re: #206 FurryOldGuyJeans

Making NO comment might have been your best comment yet.

Didn’t know caspur was a troublemaker when i responded.

216 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:52:33pm

re: #215 midwestgak

Didn’t know caspur was a troublemaker when i responded.

See it now? ;)

217 midwestgak  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:52:44pm

re: #209 HoosierHoops

Hi Gak! hope today finds you well

Hey Hoosier,

I just got bad karma from some here. What did I do wrong?

I’m doing okay, btw.

218 gringo69  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:53:55pm

Obamas presidency looks like its fizzlin out after three weeks. Gregg can vote now right?

219 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:54:25pm

Boy…I just can’t wait until we get into the long, hot days of the summer months. Won’t they be fun?

WANTED(Extremely Urgent) : Time & location for imminent(and numerous) train collisions.

220 Dustyvet  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:55:00pm

What News Anchors Do During Commercial Breaks w/sound


I’ll never watch news from WGN Chicago again!


Youtube Video
221 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:55:05pm

re: #214 Gretchen

I love Obama’s “bipartisan efforts”. Bipartisan doesn’t mean Democrats write a socialist bill filled with gifts for donors and government-dependent voters, then tell Republicans they have to vote for it or they aren’t bipartisan. It doesn’t mean you appoint someone who is Republican then take away all power and decision making.

O is just using the tried and true Progressive/Leftoid/Dem definition of Bi-partisanship. This is nothing new by quite a number of decades.

222 midwestgak  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:55:07pm

re: #216 FurryOldGuyJeans

See it now? ;)

Yep I do. I haven’t posted in the evening before. His/her name wasn’t familiar.

223 HoosierHoops  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:57:52pm

re: #217 midwestgak

Hey Hoosier,

I just got bad karma from some here. What did I do wrong?

I’m doing okay, btw.

I’m glad you are doing alright..I got down dings once for making a joke about the Grateful Dead…No big thing..you are ok

224 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:58:44pm

re: #222 midwestgak

Yep I do. I haven’t posted in the evening before. His/her name wasn’t familiar.

I just saw a -97 karma and that helped me to remember the feces previously spewed.

Don’t be concerned about a couple of downdings, especially if it is from people you don’t recognize. We have a few stealth socks that do nothing but downding people that show they are not a part of the Socialist/Fascist Collective Hive-Mind.

225 midwestgak  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:59:09pm

re: #223 HoosierHoops

I’m glad you are doing alright..I got down dings once for making a joke about the Grateful Dead…No big thing..you are ok

Thanks {HH}.

226 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:59:22pm
227 Wide Right  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:59:23pm

Wow! A Republican with some stones. Quite refreshing. Let’s hope this trend continues.

228 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:59:33pm

re: #223 HoosierHoops

I’m glad you are doing alright..I got down dings once for making a joke about the Grateful Dead…No big thing..you are ok

Joking about them would have gotten a +DING if I had seen it. :)

229 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:00:45pm

re: #210 claspur

Time to up your meds dosage, apparently.

230 albusteve  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:01:24pm

re: #223 HoosierHoops

I’m glad you are doing alright..I got down dings once for making a joke about the Grateful Dead…No big thing..you are ok

Grateful Dead jokes?…..how dare you!

231 MandyManners  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:05:35pm

So there will be no one to fight against ACORN in the Census Department?

232 HoosierHoops  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:06:46pm

re: #228 FurryOldGuyJeans

Joking about them would have gotten a +DING if I had seen it. :)

It was just an observation..If the Dead played outside of Denver during the Democratic Convention..the moonbats would have never arrived..Just pissed a couple dudes off…It was pretty funny..But I never replied.. Why bother?
Hell I sat at the board once with Roger B. with headphones when they played in SF once..( I knew a guy that knew a guy ) no biggie..It was a frigging joke!

233 midwestgak  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:08:17pm

re: #231 MandyManners

So there will be no one to fight against ACORN in the Census Department?

ACORN - A Crappy Organization Ruining NorthAmerica.

234 Elcid  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:09:01pm

Take back all those damn nasty thing I said about you Judd Gregg. Your decision took guts.

It was an Obama ploy from the get-go.

235 Elcid  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:10:04pm

thingS

236 Maui Girl  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:12:31pm

re: #220 Dustyvet


That’s hilarious!

237 bulwrk  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:12:52pm

re: #172 Honorary Yooper

Arlan Spinchter?

Ourlone Spinchter

238 wiffersnapper  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:13:51pm

Gregg will get offed soon enough by the HopenHitSquad.

239 MandyManners  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:14:32pm

re: #233 midwestgak

ACORN - A Crappy Organization Ruining NorthAmerica.

Good one.

240 lamaestra  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:16:45pm

Judd came to his census and withdrew.

241 fish  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:21:54pm

re: #76 turn

I ran Gregg’s withdrawl through the Universal Translator, it comes back “Your ship is sinking, I’m not getting on board”

You must have a different model translator than I do. Mine came back ” F**k Off”

242 Taqyia2Me  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:22:42pm

re: #145 tommygum

We need a new name for Spector.

“Sphincter”

243 TedStriker  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:25:59pm

re: #81 walahi

I think the plan is clear and no conveivable benefit would be garnered from being attached to this mess. This census controversy is a taste of joys yet to come from the White House in the next four years. I think Gregg maybe saw a little down the road and bailed out while the bailing was good.

And while he still had his Senate seat…

244 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:29:18pm
245 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:34:09pm
246 snowcrash  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:34:29pm

So Pres. Obama had his first look at the bottom of the bus by the hands of a Republican? nice. Gregg is more important in the Senate anyway.

247 midwestgak  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:37:03pm

re: #245 ploome hineni

is this the ding thread?

If not dead, very slow. The next thread up is slow too.

248 polo02332  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:37:32pm

As a NH resident, I just called his office and thanked him. Told him we need him in the Senate. Staff said it meant a lot to the Senator to get so much support from his constituents.

249 TedStriker  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:37:44pm

re: #145 tommygum

We need a new name for Spector.

Would “asshole” work?

250 midwestgak  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:38:33pm

re: #248 polo02332

As a NH resident, I just called his office and thanked him. Told him we need him in the Senate. Staff said it meant a lot to the Senator to get so much support from his constituents.

What is his voting record in NH?

251 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:39:56pm
252 Right Brain  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:44:00pm

Have i got this right that SIX cabinet appointee have quit in three weeks?! Tom Daschle, Tim Geithner, Nancy Killefer, Hilda Solis, Bill Richardson, and Judd Greg.

This is disgraceful and indicative of Pres. Obama’s utter lack of executive experience.

6 in 3 weeks, a new low for the Democrats.

253 tommygum  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:44:22pm

re: #230 albusteve

Grateful Dead jokes?…..how dare you!

What did one Dead fan say to the other dead fan when they ran out of drugs?

This band sucks.

254 vagabond trader  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:47:41pm

re: #252 Right Brain

And a few more who were bum rushed through and should not have been. Holder, Clinton, Geithner.

255 Shanimal1918  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:48:56pm

Finally. Change I can believe in. Senator Gregg proves he isn’t completely insane.

256 shiek al beif salami  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:53:47pm

re: #255 Shanimal1918

Or maybe it hints at the remote possibility of a Republican politician growing a pair.

257 TedStriker  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:54:08pm

re: #251 ploome hineni

Yeah, but I prefer the crass sledgehammer of “Asshole” to describe Specter, rather than being sly and finessing it with “Sphincter”…

;-P

258 kateca  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:55:33pm

re: #226 taxfreekiller

Apparently Arlan Spector isn’t taking calls today. His mailbox is always full.

259 debutaunt  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 4:00:10pm

re: #252 Right Brain

Have i got this right that SIX cabinet appointee have quit in three weeks?! Tom Daschle, Tim Geithner, Nancy Killefer, Hilda Solis, Bill Richardson, and Judd Greg.

This is disgraceful and indicative of Pres. Obama’s utter lack of executive experience.

6 in 3 weeks, a new low for the Democrats.

Geithner?

260 Right Brain  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 4:24:33pm

re: #259 debutaunt

You’re right Geithner did not quit, I conflated this with a list of people he nominated who didn’t pay taxes.

OK five out of fifteen appointments. 1/3, terrible.

261 mattm  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 4:31:03pm

It’s all yours Obama. It will be solely in Dem hands whatever happens. Enjoy 2010/12

262 Captain Jack  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 4:36:43pm

I sent Sen Gregg this e-mail:
Dear Sen. Gregg,
You are truly a man of courage for declining the Sec. of Commerce position. I was initially outraged and felt betrayed, and e-mailed you such thoughts, when I first heard about your intentions. I appreciate your reconsideration and feel you have made the honorable choice. I believed that there could be no common ground between you and a Democrat that promises people something for nothing and tries to pretend there will be no severe consequences from simply printing money to solve a problem that only time and fiscal austerity can unravel.
I also feel the demonization of the private sector and “free” market for a economic problem caused by market distortions initiated by government policy to have the GSEs Fannie and Freddie buy sub-prime mortgages is sheer obfuscation. Wall Street was merely the executioners of US Government policy. The media will not educate the public because the editors and producers of our media are liberal democrats and want them to succeed for deep seated ideological reasons. Please take a leading role in educating the public through your high profile as a US Senator. The media must cover your statements and cannot commit “bias by omission”.
Thank you again Senator you are a patriot. Your true character is demonstrated by being able to recognize a mistake and correct it.
Sincerely,

George Kotal

263 vagabond trader  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 4:39:19pm

re: #262 Captain Jack

Your description of the present financial crisis is excellent.

264 I heart the USA  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 4:41:44pm

Is Hilda Solis out? I must have missed that one. If so, a hearty ‘Good Riddance’ to yet another embarrassment from my home state.

265 GoIllini  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 5:56:56pm

re: #117 LGoPs

Thanks for the clarification….. :)
Still, if he’s a man of honor, which I expect he is, and he sees what’s coming for the military there’s no more courageous or patriotic an act he could perform for his country and the men and women serving under his supervision….

Well, unless Gates feels that by staying he’s serving as a firewall between a commander in chief that has no clue and the men and women protecting our country. If so, God bless him and God bless our service people.

266 cincinnati_kid37  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 6:11:47pm

Who was the last president to have 4 cabinet members dead on arrival ?

And counting….

I can’t think of one.

267 Kaymad  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 7:07:06pm

This is no big deal. It’s being presented as mean old republicans won’t play ball. So what’s new? We’ve always let the democrats and the press demonize us and for the most part republicans let it pass. This might be a good opportunity to draw attention to the census issue…but you’d need the press for that and they aren’t in it anymore to play gotcha with the President.

Krauthammer said on Fox that this doesn’t mean much in the big scheme of things. The stimulus is going to pass and Obama will have tremendous political capital afterwards for passing the gigantic porkzilla piece of crap. We’ll probably never know for sure what it has done to the economy.

268 jcbunga  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 7:32:15pm

So…they’re hiring?

269 Rexatosis  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 8:41:18pm

While the Commerce Dept. does not have a large budget by Admin. Dept. standards it is extremely important in terms of promoting US business interests, especially overseas. President Obama has completely screwed this up. Rudderless departments tend to create or exacerbate problems (for an example see the 1st Clinton Administration’s Justice Department and Waco). POTUS Obama’s inability to seat a Commerce Secy. combined with the crook (or idiot if one is charitable) at Treasury is not a good sign for the economy. This is why you don’t hire inexperienced novices for key administrative posts yet alone the position of POTUS.

270 soxfan4life  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 8:42:47pm

re: #264 I heart the USA

Is Hilda Solis out? I must have missed that one. If so, a hearty ‘Good Riddance’ to yet another embarrassment from my home state.

Apparently hubby has a tax lien on his business. Can’t imagine she’d let a little problem like unpaid taxes stop her.

271 Optimizer  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:08:23pm

OK, so Sen. Gregg signs up in the spirit of post-partisanshipre: #8 loppyd

I think that was the deal breaker.

OK, so Sen. Gregg signs up in the spirit of post-partisanship - all that Hopey-Changey BS - and then it gets out that the boss-to-be completely insults him by taking an important part of his job out from under him. Then the boss-to-be uses fear-mongering to pull off a $1T hoax that’s got far more to do with pushing socialism than it has to do with “economic stimulus”.

So Gregg says, “You know what? I didn’t sign up to be the token R for your Administration, I don’t care for being publically insulted and used, and I don’t want to be associated with a lying bastard/socialist and his tax cheat sidekicks. Take that job and shove it, Mr President!” [I’m paraphrasing, of course.]

At least that’s the was I saw it. I really enjoyed this news story! I get a real kick out of just thinking about it!

272 Optimizer  Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:17:10pm

re: #262 Captain Jack

Say, I like this comment, but might it not violate Comment Rule #3?

273 Ron Shaw  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:11:22am

That’s encouraging…at least one Republican has a clue and a conscience!


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