Stock Market Yo-Yo Watch
After a small gain yesterday, the Dow index is now down another 200 points. Someone please ask the bears to unclench their fists…
After a small gain yesterday, the Dow index is now down another 200 points. Someone please ask the bears to unclench their fists…
1 | Diamond Bullet Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:34:55am |
According to Obama’s Platitudes-to-Experience ratio, this is fantastic news.
3 | Russkilitlover Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:35:11am |
I wish it were a yo-yo, then at least there would be hope for ups to follow downs. But this is just day after day of DOWn, DOWn, DOWn.
4 | Golem Akbar Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:35:13am |
Yo Yo or Oy Oy? I’m more inclined to the latter…
5 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:35:18am |
The economy is really bumming me out. There’s much more of this to come.
7 | yma o hyd Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:36:59am |
Bears don’t have fists, mun!
And what a bear has in his paws and jaws, he’ll keep, for sure.
As for the DOWn - well, its got to a stage where I can only laugh - bitterly …
8 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:37:09am |
re: #2 soxfan4life
I don’t think so. That would mean that companies would pay you to own their stock. It would be like a grocery store giving you money to take food.
9 | vagabond trader Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:38:25am |
Pffft. Worrying about the market is soooo passe’.
10 | yma o hyd Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:38:50am |
re: #8 Killgore Trout
I don’t think so. That would mean that companies would pay you to own their stock. It would be like a grocery store giving you money to take food.
That wouldn’t be so bad if the government that pays out the state pension wouldn’t ask you at the same time to pay them for the priviledge of actualy living …
11 | Cygnus Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:38:59am |
Up, down; up, down;… . My retirement fund needs an airsick bag and some Dramamine.
13 | Milk in a Box Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:39:37am |
Don’t worry, it still may be a good time to buy!
Best/Worst Headline Evar?
14 | Nevergiveup Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:40:00am |
re: #13 Milk in a Box
Don’t worry, it still may be a good time to buy!
Best/Worst Headline Evar?
with what?
17 | yma o hyd Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:40:31am |
re: #12 JammieWearingFool
I was reading an update on this earlier and one word was conspicuously absent: Obama.
Well - thats ok, innit?
0bama doesn’t do the DOWn, he said so himself - so why would this be his fault?
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18 | BignJames Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:40:52am |
I’ve lost money I didn’t think I’d ever have…..and now I don’t.
20 | jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:42:06am |
Pay no attention to the day to day gyrations of a tracking poll.
It distracts you from paying attention to ME!
/The One.
21 | CLLRusso Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:43:09am |
re: #11 Cygnus
Up, down; up, down;… . My retirement fund needs an airsick bag and some Dramamine.
Up and down? No, it’s all down and I have no idea since I am retired what I am going to live on. Go back to work again I guess.
22 | yma o hyd Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:43:10am |
re: #13 Milk in a Box
Don’t worry, it still may be a good time to buy!
Best/Worst Headline Evar?
OMG - am I glad I didn’t have to listen to that crap from both PB0 and Gord. Even the reading of it is beyond painful.
23 | Steve Rogers Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:43:26am |
Every time Obama speaks he causes the Stock Market to plunge even lower. The solution is obvious: Someone unplug his teleprompter.
24 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:43:26am |
re: #13 Milk in a Box
the problem is that few people are going to tie up their cash in the stock market. We are looking at probably 2 more years of this. Maybe more. Even people who are filthy rich and have cash to spare are going to hold onto it because Obama is making noises about taxing them to pay for social programs. They’re going to hold on to that cash to pay their tax bills.
25 | Cygnus Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:43:30am |
‘Mommy, the Emperor has no clothes!’
‘Hush, dear. Now just keep watching CNN.’
27 | yma o hyd Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:44:16am |
29 | Nevergiveup Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:45:05am |
Italy to boycott Durban 2
FM Frattini tells Livni his country has problems with conference agenda, adds he is canceling visit to Iran
Molto Bene.
30 | xtraBilly Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:45:21am |
The bright side for me is that I’m not going to have any capital gains for Obama to tax.
32 | LGoPs Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:45:46am |
Somebody should design a poster. Have a milk carton with a picture of Pelosi, Reid and Obama and the caption “Missing - my 401K”
34 | Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:46:40am |
re: #3 Russkilitlover
I wish it were a yo-yo, then at least there would be hope for ups to follow downs. But this is just day after day of DOWn, DOWn, DOWn.
Just for you: ELO, “Don’t Bring Me Down”:
35 | turn Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:46:58am |
re: #24 Killgore Trout
the problem is that few people are going to tie up their cash in the stock market. We are looking at probably 2 more years of this. Maybe more. Even people who are filthy rich and have cash to spare are going to hold onto it because Obama is making noises about taxing them to pay for social programs. They’re going to hold on to that cash to pay their tax bills.
Hey KT, I’m willing to bet there are a lot of people out there who didn’t bail in their 401ks and are stuck riding this thing out (e.g. turn). My money is stuck in the market so I hope you are wrong about that 2 year thing.
36 | BignJames Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:47:07am |
re: #19 MandyManners
Better be tough if you’re gonna be stupid.
37 | Ojoe Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:47:08am |
re: #24 Killgore Trout
Yes, and not spend it, thus not putting people to work.
I design buildings, much of them residences; there is no work right now in my office; that means in a year there will not be 20 construction jobs, not to mention all the material suppliers & component manufacturers will experience a drop.
There is a long term thing going on here.
38 | snowcrash Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:47:22am |
I actually bought a 10lb bag of rice instead of the usual 3lb bag. My rationale was “just in case”. Obama has no idea how the Dow numbers reflect confidence in him, his policies and the future.
39 | jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:47:50am |
re: #13 Milk in a Box
Don’t worry, it still may be a good time to buy!
Best/Worst Headline Evar?
“What you’re now seeing is, profit and earning ratios are starting to get to the point where buying stocks is a potentially good deal if you’ve got a long term perspective on it,”
Beyond his ignoration of PE ratios. He misses the fundamental issue.
The Market is a gauge of confidence in the future of the economy.
The lack of confidence, is a greater consideration than the prospect fo potential bargains.
41 | Ford_Prefect Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:48:29am |
re: #34 Guanxi88
Just for you: ELO, “Don’t Bring Me Down”:
[Video]
OK technical question. How do you get the videos to show up on the post?
42 | DaddyG Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:48:40am |
re: #19 MandyManners You grant a couple border guards clemency and the next thing you know they all go rambo on ya!
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43 | LGoPs Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:48:56am |
re: #33 MandyManners
He told the guy to turn off the car THREE times. And, this asshole has given the border patrol trouble before. Law enforcement is not required to say “please”.
I actually had a similar incident at the Canadian border, coming back to Seattle from a weekend in Vancouver. US Border police stuck a gun in my face and ordered me to turn off the car and not surprisingly, I did.
Turns out my license plate was one digit off from a reported stolen cars plate.
My mom taught me never to f**k with cops and it served me well.
45 | Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:49:07am |
re: #41 Ford_Prefect
OK technical question. How do you get the videos to show up on the post?
Asking the wrong guy: i just copy and paste into the posting
46 | Dan G. Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:49:17am |
re: #39 jcm
Isn’t the metaphor for this situation that one is trying to “catch a falling knife”, or have I misunderstood it?
47 | turn Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:49:25am |
re: #33 MandyManners
He told the guy to turn off the car THREE times. And, this asshole has given the border patrol trouble before. Law enforcement is not required to say “please”.
I thought it was an unnecessary use of force, although I must admit I didn’t realize he had a previous run in with the law.
48 | Nevergiveup Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:50:16am |
President Barack Obama is planning to visit Britain, France, Germany and the Czech Republic for his first trip to Europe since taking office.
Well considering the cracker jack job he has done on us so far, why not let Europe share in the good times?
49 | jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:50:35am |
re: #46 Dan G.
Isn’t the metaphor for this situation that one is trying to “catch a falling knife”, or have I misunderstood it?
That’s apt.
51 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:51:54am |
re: #48 Nevergiveup
President Barack Obama is planning to visit Britain, France, Germany and the Czech Republic for his first trip to Europe since taking office.
[Link: www.jpost.com…]
Well considering the cracker jack job he has done on us so far, why not let Europe share in the good times?
It will be interesting to see if he gets the kind of adoration that he got the last time?
52 | Dan G. Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:51:57am |
re: #40 Dan G.
There’s more to the picture than this graph, I should have waited until I read more before posting it. Don’t panic.
54 | SFGoth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:52:20am |
Time to pay off the equity line ($40k) and re-fi the mortgage down from $224k to $175k. That’ll still leave me between 50 & 100k cash + my dwindling stocks.
55 | red satellite Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:52:47am |
Dow Jones Industrials….Dow Jones Agriculturals…Dow Jones MiddleAges.
There. Fixed.
56 | Noam Chumpski Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:52:50am |
It’s laughable that Team Obama® thinks that the DOW has nothing to do with the economy. Tragic, but laughable.
Personally, I’m keeping cardboard boxes so that I can combine them and have the biggest one on the block when we are all living out of them.
58 | bulwrk Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:53:23am |
re: #33 MandyManners
Really what kind of self absorbed idiot must this guy be,officers should be polite but the smart thing to do is register your dissatisfaction with his rudeness and comply with his request.
59 | itellu3times Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:53:29am |
Market *could* make a bottom around here over the next week or six, but it’s very undecided. Per the press of the last few days as Wall Street and MSM start waking up a bit about the cluelessness of Obama and all his little friends (Geithner, Orszag, good grief), a few elements of existential panic are beginning to surface outside of LGF. If these catch on, I dunno where the stock market bottom is, nor when it will recover. I’m not ready to panic yet myself, but this market has been one cascade of oh-this-is-the-bottom for about a year now. Unprecedented in a bunch of ways. Unpredictable by anyone currently on the planet.
60 | jorline Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:53:46am |
Mr. President…it’s NOT WORKING!
Murphy walked into the room on 01/20/09.
61 | gonecamping Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:54:08am |
The only yo yo analogy I can liken the current market to is ‘walking the dog’.
The market drops on the string and just spins along at the lower level…and Obama holds the string that keeps it from coming back up.
62 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:54:22am |
The Obama Daily Tracking Poll……
/Thanks, Rush!
64 | turn Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:54:54am |
re: #54 SFGoth
Time to pay off the equity line ($40k) and re-fi the mortgage down from $224k to $175k. That’ll still leave me between 50 & 100k cash + my dwindling stocks.
How are you going to do that? Pay off 40k and end up with a lower mortgage? Man I want your secret.
66 | Noam Chumpski Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:55:26am |
re: #63 MandyManners
ELITIST!
You’re right - Obama will just tax me more for my ingenuity. Better throw out some of these boxes…
67 | aggieann Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:55:30am |
re: #1 Diamond Bullet
According to Obama’s Platitudes-to-Experience ratio, this is fantastic news.
Ha!
68 | FrogMarch Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:55:45am |
Some Democrats are starting to wake up.
Still - the Putin in the White House has everyone hood-winked.
69 | Amer-I-Can Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:56:02am |
Someone please ask the bears to unclench their fists…
I don’t think it’s their fists that are clinched… you probably need to look a little lower.
70 | DaddyG Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:56:02am |
re: #56 Noam Chumpski
I’m keeping cardboard boxes so that I can combine them and have the biggest one on the block when we are all living out of them.
I have a collection of pickle jars. It’ll guarantee me a corner on the sewage and sanitation market.
72 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:56:56am |
re: #70 DaddyG
I have a collection of pickle jars. It’ll guarantee me a corner on the sewage and sanitation market.
That’ll be illegal - see Urinetown.
73 | Drained Brain Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:56:57am |
I bought some good stocks a couple of weeks ago, doing some bottom-feeding when they were exceptional buys, heh-heh. Since then they’ve dropped 17%.
I just feel for all those suffering through this “redistribution” of wealth. Or, as somebody asked elsewhere, will it count in Obama’s job-creation stats if people who would have otherwise retired have to keep working into their 70s?
74 | avanti Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:57:00am |
re: #48 Nevergiveup
President Barack Obama is planning to visit Britain, France, Germany and the Czech Republic for his first trip to Europe since taking office.
[Link: www.jpost.com…]
Well considering the cracker jack job he has done on us so far, why not let Europe share in the good times?
Maybe he read that they feel slighted according tothis..
77 | jorline Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:57:11am |
Citigroup shares tumble below $1
Citigroup, a Dow component, fell more than 13 percent to an intraday low of $0.98, hammered by continued fears over the bank’s health and ability to avert nationalization.
About two years ago, Citi’s market value was above $270 billion. Today its market cap is a little over $5.4 billion.
79 | Ford_Prefect Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:57:24am |
80 | aggieann Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:57:39am |
re: #68 FrogMarch
Some Democrats are starting to wake up.
Still - the Putin in the White House has everyone hood-winked.
You could say we’re Putin on the Risk …
81 | SFGoth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:57:56am |
re: #64 turn
How are you going to do that? Pay off 40k and end up with a lower mortgage? Man I want your secret.
Ummm, well, I have more than just $40k cash. It’s basic arithmetic. Some goes to equity, some to mortgage, some to earthquake supplies (I am very derelict on that), some goes to shotgun and ammo, some I bury, and some I leave there on it’s naked own.
82 | DaddyG Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:59:18am |
re: #72 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
That’ll be illegal - see Urinetown.
Good Heavens! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urinetown
83 | Drained Brain Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:59:19am |
re: #81 SFGoth
Ummm, well, I have more than just $40k cash. It’s basic arithmetic. Some goes to equity, some to mortgage, some to earthquake supplies (I am very derelict on that), some goes to shotgun and ammo, some I bury, and some I leave there on it’s naked own.
It’ll be easy to make a small fortune under Obama. First, start with a large fortune…
84 | turn Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:00:17am |
re: #57 MandyManners
Even if he’d never been a PITA before, he refused to obey a lawful order three times.
Yes but pepper spray the dude? It sure seems to me the agent lost his temper and over-reacted. Don’t get me wrong, I have utmost respect for the law. That is all … lunch calls. BBL (I hope - the big guy is in the office and layoffs are the topic)
85 | SFGoth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:00:21am |
Anyone one see Gordon Brown’s embarrassing groveling that the U.S. Congress, dominated by petulant children, bail Europe out *a-fucking-gain*? We bailed you out in WWI, WWII, the Marshall Plan, and the Cold War when we were capable of doing so, but you demanded that we elect Obama and now we can’t even pee without getting our shoes wet. Sucks to be you(rope).
86 | Jonn Lilyea Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:00:30am |
I don’t think it’s the bears’ fists that are clenched.
87 | Wendya Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:00:59am |
88 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:01:14am |
re: #68 FrogMarch
Some Democrats are starting to wake up.
Still - the Putin in the White House has everyone hood-winked.
Cramer has making this point as much as he can. It won’t make any difference to Obama, but it might get some other Dems to start putting the brakes on this runaway train.
89 | Russkilitlover Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:01:30am |
re: #34 Guanxi88
Just for you: ELO, “Don’t Bring Me Down”:
Heh. I love that song, but suddenly it has a terrible new meaning.
91 | FrogMarch Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:01:40am |
re: #78 MandyManners
How many of them are up for reelection in 2010?
I don’t have a count off hand. If Murtha still can’t lose his seat after all of this - then the system is rigged.
92 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:01:49am |
re: #35 turn
Hey KT, I’m willing to bet there are a lot of people out there who didn’t bail in their 401ks and are stuck riding this thing out (e.g. turn). My money is stuck in the market so I hope you are wrong about that 2 year thing.
I’m stuck in the market as well. It’s too late to bail out now. I’d guess we are looking at a year at the very least. Probably 2-3 years.
94 | FrogMarch Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:02:45am |
(mentioned this in the Palin thread) — I spoke with a very influential community business leader today in Boulder. (He is on the board of a major national bank here in town etc…) I asked him what he thought of the run on the banks that occurred back in September before the election. He said that he was certain Soros was behind it and he too thought it was a planned event to help Obama.
95 | brent Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:02:45am |
This joker (BHO) is running the country like a campaign; shocker, it’s all he knows. Instead of fixing problems, he’s diverting attention - the problem is, at the end of the day, he’s supposed to be in charge.
I’m sorry, an enemies list? Add my name to that, you retirement killing, big-eared loser. Stop focusing on private citizens, stop sending your minions onto blogs and 3rd team cable news shows to push your agit-prop. Fix something besides the mother-in-law suite.
Sorry, I’m a bit salty about the whole trashing the economy thing. Carry on.
97 | Earick Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:03:49am |
I’ve got it! I’ve got it!
I’m going to stop paying my mortgage and start buying stock!
Yah! Yah! That’s the ticket!
You folks pay for my house and I will pay for my stocks!
Oh, and thanks for all the fish!
99 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:04:15am |
re: #95 brent
This joker (BHO) is running the country like a campaign; shocker, it’s all he knows. Instead of fixing problems, he’s diverting attention - the problem is, at the end of the day, he’s supposed to be in charge.
I’m sorry, an enemies list? Add my name to that, you retirement killing, big-eared loser. Stop focusing on private citizens, stop sending your minions onto blogs and 3rd team cable news shows to push your agit-prop. Fix something besides the mother-in-law suite.
Sorry, I’m a bit salty about the whole trashing the economy thing. Carry on.
Feel free to be salty, Brent. That bent-headed Commie deserves it.
100 | Zimriel Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:04:19am |
I know the phrase “capital strike” is becoming a cliche, but… it’s a capital strike. The MSNBC poll I saw yesterday had Obama at 68% approval, for all his socialism and ineptitude. As long as investors believe that Obama is unchecked, and he is unchecked as of now, the Dow will continue to plummet.
(“Well, it’s rather brutal here. Right now we are advising all our clients to put everything they’ve got into canned food and shotguns!” - Brain Gremlin)
101 | SFGoth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:04:27am |
re: #88 Dark_Falcon
Cramer has making this point as much as he can. It won’t make any difference to Obama, but it might get some other Dems to start putting the brakes on this runaway train.
Cramer can S.T.F.U. He sucked up to Obama and now can just keep his head where the Sun don’t shine.
104 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:04:55am |
Someone explain something to me. I keep hearing that a large part of the population doesn’t even pay income tax. And who the hell may that be? I have an adjusted income of 9050.00 and my tax is still 960.00. And the tax table has tax amounts going down to almost no salary. So, I don’t understand, it seems to me that everyone pays income tax if they had some sort of income.
105 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:05:23am |
Posted this on the earlier thread - a little too late - but it probably belongs here anyway:
Mortgage defaults, foreclosures spreading
From the first paragraph:
A stunning 48 percent of the nation’s homeowners who have a subprime, adjustable-rate mortgage are behind on their payments or in foreclosure, and that’s not the worst of it, new data Thursday showed.
To be fair, it’s spreading to fixed-rate holders as well, but it does seem to indicate that - barring a policy that just tells these people they don’t have to pay at all - the “Making Home Affordable” program is just throwing more money at a problem that’s not going to go away.
106 | calvin coolidge Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:05:45am |
I’m so confused. Indiana University is reporting that the Dow is soaring.
107 | sarah Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:05:51am |
My prediction is 5000 points and then we’ll start to grow again.
108 | CyanSnowHawk Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:05:55am |
re: #13 Milk in a Box
Don’t worry, it still may be a good time to buy!
Best/Worst Headline Evar?
Did the Messiah just have his ‘Malaise’ moment?
109 | gmsc Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:06:15am |
Here’s some goodies from my Capitalism YouTube playlist to help encourage some optimism about the market (Long-term optimism is better than no optimism!), or at least give you a smile and a laugh:
By Word of Mouse (1954):
Youtube Video
Heir Conditioned (1955):
Youtube Video
Yankee Dood It (1956):
Youtube Video
110 | gonecamping Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:06:39am |
The White House has an Enemies List, I want an Enemas List…for all those politicians (Dem and Rep) that are so full of it their eyes are brown, and keep on spending, spending ,spending!
111 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:06:48am |
re: #105 subsailor68
Posted this on the earlier thread - a little too late - but it probably belongs here anyway:
Mortgage defaults, foreclosures spreading
From the first paragraph:
A stunning 48 percent of the nation’s homeowners who have a subprime, adjustable-rate mortgage are behind on their payments or in foreclosure, and that’s not the worst of it, new data Thursday showed.
To be fair, it’s spreading to fixed-rate holders as well, but it does seem to indicate that - barring a policy that just tells these people they don’t have to pay at all - the “Making Home Affordable” program is just throwing more money at a problem that’s not going to go away.
I’ve talked to some people who CAN pay their subprime mortgage, but who have decided not to so they can get a better deal.
113 | Erik The Red Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:06:57am |
This is so fucked up. 44 has got to be scratching his head and saying WTF why me. He has no clue that he and his comrades did this.
115 | Russkilitlover Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:07:05am |
117 | Sheepdogess Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:07:21am |
When the leftover left commies succeed in destroying the country, they are going to find that their “remade” America sucks for them too.
118 | tackle Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:07:25am |
re: #107 sarah
My prediction is 5000 points and then we’ll start to grow again.
You may be right. Who’d a thunk it.
119 | Zimriel Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:07:39am |
re: #101 SFGoth
Cramer can S.T.F.U. He sucked up to Obama and now can just keep his head where the Sun don’t shine.
If Cramer, Brooks, Noonan etc showed up to speak at a Tea Party, it’d go some way toward rehabilitating them in my eyes…
120 | CyanSnowHawk Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:07:55am |
I read this morning a beautiful description of yesterdays mini rally. To paraphrase, ‘A bounce off a rocky ledge on the cliff face during our freefall’.
121 | Spare O'Lake Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:07:59am |
re: #98 MandyManners
Maybe he’s learned.
Any asshole who insists that a border guard “say please” before he obeys a lawful request deserves a major kick in the butt.
122 | mattm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:08:18am |
If Obama wants to help the Economy, jut do nothing. Shut up and sick back will be better than his “solutions.”
124 | gonecamping Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:09:08am |
I don’t know, but everyday he is in office begets Maalox moments for all the heartburn he is causing.
re: #108 CyanSnowHawk
Did the Messiah just have his ‘Malaise’ moment?
125 | J Doc Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:09:09am |
re: #47 turn
His previous run ins have all involved his “asking” border patrol officers to say please. There is absolutely no reason to exhibit bad manners when dealing with the public…no matter what your level of authority is. We pay their salaries. They are public servants, we are not their servants.
127 | doppelganglander Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:09:22am |
re: #104 Walter L. Newton
Someone explain something to me. I keep hearing that a large part of the population doesn’t even pay income tax. And who the hell may that be? I have an adjusted income of 9050.00 and my tax is still 960.00. And the tax table has tax amounts going down to almost no salary. So, I don’t understand, it seems to me that everyone pays income tax if they had some sort of income.
A lot of people qualify for tax credits that reduce their liability to zero. Earned Income Credit and child care credits come to mind.
129 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:10:32am |
re: #123 JimmyTheClaw
Consider this blog has a mixed audience, and this is not even no where near topic, what the fuck were you thinking by posting this?
130 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:10:33am |
re: #111 Walter L. Newton
I’ve talked to some people who CAN pay their subprime mortgage, but who have decided not to so they can get a better deal.
Hi Walter! That actually doesn’t surprise me. Even if they’re otherwise solid folks, the mixed messages on the mortgage relief proposals would seem to encourage people to take that kind of approach. Not that it’s something I could do (my dad would come back and kick my butt), but I can see where people might think about it.
132 | yma o hyd Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:10:56am |
DOWn down by 254 - gah, best one can do is bet on how far the DOWn will fall today.
Sorry, folks, I’m just trying to turn my hysteria into hilarity.
134 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:11:21am |
re: #126 Iron Fist
You are paying FICA, Medicare, and crap like that. With that low an income, though, I’d have thought you would have qualified for the “Earned Income” tax credit. That would have at least pulled you up to even, I’d think.
What’s earned income and where is it?
135 | SFGoth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:11:27am |
re: #119 Zimriel
If Cramer, Brooks, Noonan etc showed up to speak at a Tea Party, it’d go some way toward rehabilitating them in my eyes…
Cramer, Brooks, and Noonan can take an excessive amount of barbiturates for all I care. They cannot be rehabilitated anymore than Chamberlain could have been when he was told that it was time for him to go. Time for you losers to go.
136 | FrogMarch Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:11:58am |
re: #103 MandyManners
I’m wondering if they’re making noise just to placate the voters.
Acorn has it handled. We needn’t even bother to vote.
137 | gonecamping Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:11:59am |
I think they have dyslexia…left is right and down is up.
re: #106 calvin coolidge
I’m so confused. Indiana University is reporting that the Dow is soaring.
138 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:12:04am |
re: #104 Walter L. Newton
I was shocked when I started my own business. When you’re working as an employee the taxes (state, fed, social sec, etc) are taken out of your paycheck and there’s nothing you can do about it. You can’t really enough deductions together to get your money back. When you have your own business there are a lot of deductions you can tap that can negate most (or all) of your taxes. Travel, equipment, supplies, shipping, utilities, professional fees are all deductible. If you make a modest income in can be pretty much tax free. However, if you make big bucks as self employed you really get soaked on taxes.
139 | Mike McDaniel Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:12:10am |
Remember what Reagan taught us….
A recession is when your neighbor loses his job.
A depression is when you lose your job.
And a recovery is when the Democrats in Washington lose THEIR jobs.
140 | Erik The Red Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:12:23am |
re: #123 JimmyTheClaw
Great joke. Copy and paste better next time.
142 | BignJames Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:12:29am |
re: #114 Iron Fist
Kinda like Ron White sez…” I don’t know how many cops it’ll take to kick my ass…..but I know how many they’re gonna use…”
143 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:12:53am |
re: #126 Iron Fist
You are paying FICA, Medicare, and crap like that. With that low an income, though, I’d have thought you would have qualified for the “Earned Income” tax credit. That would have at least pulled you up to even, I’d think.
No, I am saying that my income tax total was 960, as per the tax table. The other stuff is more money they took out.
144 | Russkilitlover Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:12:59am |
re: #113 Erik The Red
This is so fucked up. 44 has got to be scratching his head and saying WTF why me. He has no clue that he and his comrades did this.
Unless you believe (as I increasingly am) that it is an intentional and long-planned action coming to fruition.
146 | Ben Hur Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:13:15am |
Maybe He can hire 2 million people to work his weekly parties.
147 | lobo91 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:14:10am |
re: #104 Walter L. Newton
Someone explain something to me. I keep hearing that a large part of the population doesn’t even pay income tax. And who the hell may that be? I have an adjusted income of 9050.00 and my tax is still 960.00. And the tax table has tax amounts going down to almost no salary. So, I don’t understand, it seems to me that everyone pays income tax if they had some sort of income.
If they’re single with no dependent children, that’s true. Your income has to get pretty low before you have no tax liability at all. With dependents, though, it’s a different picture, especially when you factor in the Earned Income Tax Credit.
149 | Summer Seale Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:14:31am |
Obama’s plan to end capitalism as we know it appears to be working just splendidly….
151 | greenmamba Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:15:18am |
What you’re now seeing is a politics and earmarks ratios get to the point that like a tracking poll in politics, it bobs down and down day-to-day.
I think the O’Bummer team does understand that the market is saying what it thinks of their policies, but their aim seems to be to force the market to behave and do as it’s told. Or just maybe they want to do away with the stock market altogether. No, that’d be extreme. I know! How about the government allows a certain number of stocks and sets the prices so no-one can lose. Yeah, that’s the ticket.
152 | Truck Monkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:15:38am |
153 | Zimriel Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:15:42am |
re: #135 SFGoth
Cramer, Brooks, and Noonan can take an excessive amount of barbiturates for all I care. They cannot be rehabilitated anymore than Chamberlain could have been when he was told that it was time for him to go. Time for you losers to go.
Chamberlain did, however, support Churchill after 1940; and that does rehabilitate him somewhat. Compare with Edward Heath’s constant backbiting against Thatcher in the 1980s.
154 | SFGoth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:16:06am |
Summer after freshman year, 1986, when I was 18, I worked in the produce dept. of a grocery store (Jumbo Foods, in Actiondale, Va). I took every hour they would give me, and that was at a $4.75/hour base. Some of the guys in their late 20’s/early 30’s who were also hourly, but at a much higher rate of course, almost never worked OT (while I begged for it). I asked them why. To a man, they all said, because they’ll pay a higher tax rate on it but the gov’t doesn’t tax their time off, so they’d rather be out fishing or something than making less for each additional hour worked. That sure opened my eyes to the world (though I still took the OT since I needed the $). Next year, I might renegotiate my salary down and bill less, travel more.
155 | Harry Tuttle Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:16:26am |
The market continues its decline today due in large part to the failed policies of the Bush administration.
156 | tackle Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:16:38am |
re: #144 Russkilitlover
Unless you believe (as I increasingly am) that it is an intentional and long-planned action coming to fruition.
It’s been said before:
“The worse, the better.” -Lenin
157 | yma o hyd Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:16:39am |
Here’s some more ‘good’ news:
Bank to ‘print’ £75bn of new money as it cuts rate
Yep - the interest rate is now down to 0.5%.
Perhaps we’d better start worrying about having to pay the banks for the priviledge of keeping our money …
Oh - and buy some wheelbarrows - £75bn is peanuts, I tellya, peanuts!
158 | JimmyTheClaw Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:16:42am |
re: #152 Truck Monkey
I would have beaten him with a night stick.
while shouting respect my authouratah
159 | J Doc Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:16:45am |
re: #141 MandyManners
You don’t see anything wrong with getting sprayed in the face with pepper spray because you question an officer’s lack of civility? I have learned to question authority, not be complacent to it.
160 | SFGoth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:16:48am |
re: #144 Russkilitlover
Unless you believe (as I increasingly am) that it is an intentional and long-planned action coming to fruition.
I do and I’ve been called a Moby.
161 | gmsc Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:16:55am |
re: #13 Milk in a Box
Don’t worry, it still may be a good time to buy!
Best/Worst Headline Evar?
Nah, I think the worst headline ever had to be from the Mar. 6, 1965 edition of the New York Times: “Albany Kills Bill to Repeal Law Against Birth Control”
Huh?!? It took me about 10 minutes to work out what the headline meant!
162 | Macker Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:17:13am |
re: #153 Zimriel
Didn’t they call Margaret Thatcher The Milk Snatcher? Why yes, yes they did.
164 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:17:53am |
re: #147 lobo91
If they’re single with no dependent children, that’s true. Your income has to get pretty low before you have no tax liability at all. With dependents, though, it’s a different picture, especially when you factor in the Earned Income Tax Credit.
Ok, got it. If I’m poor but single and childless, I get fucked.
166 | filetandrelease Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:18:21am |
re: #51 Walter L. Newton
It will be interesting to see if he gets the kind of adoration that he got the last time?
Especially in England.
167 | avanti Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:18:26am |
re: #104 Walter L. Newton
Someone explain something to me. I keep hearing that a large part of the population doesn’t even pay income tax. And who the hell may that be? I have an adjusted income of 9050.00 and my tax is still 960.00. And the tax table has tax amounts going down to almost no salary. So, I don’t understand, it seems to me that everyone pays income tax if they had some sort of income.
First, ignore the 46% of the population figure because it includes children and others who do not earn anything. Among tax filers the figure is 31%, mostly low income, but more then a few of the rich with write offs. For the low income types, here’s how they pay nothing:
“A Portrait of Non-Payers
Individuals and families who will earn enough to file a tax return can eliminate their tax liability by taking advantage of credits and deductions in the tax code. Many of these are familiar to all tax filers: the personal exemption is worth $3,100 in 2004, and the standard deduction is worth $4,850 for singles and $9,700 for married couples. For tax filers who have itemized deductions that exceed the standard deduction, there are the amounts paid for mortgage interest or given to charity as well as various education-related deductions. Business owners can take advantage of an even wider array of credits and deductions to reduce their tax liability.
In 1997, Congress enacted a new $500 per-child tax credit and expanded the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) for low-income workers. The 2003 tax cuts increased the value of the child credit to $1,000. These two tax credits – especially the child credit – have had a powerful effect on reducing, and many cases eliminating, the income tax liability for millions of Americans.”
169 | Amer-I-Can Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:18:59am |
re: #110 gonecamping
LOL, I’m not even sure where to start with this one…..
170 | Noam Chumpski Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:19:04am |
re: #155 Harry Tuttle
The market continues its decline today due in large part to the failed policies of the Bush administration.
Unless your being sarcastic you’ll have to go deeper than that. :)
173 | Erik The Red Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:19:46am |
re: #145 Iron Fist
Wiorse, he doesn’t get that him standing around with his thumb up his ass and a goofy expression on his face doesn’t instill confidence. He really has drunk his own koolaid. He thinks that since he won, everything is supposed to be all puppydogs and kittens.
And Unicorns. You can’t forget the Unicorns.
(We’re fucked. There’s going to be four years of this)
You know what? I will bitch and moan about 44 until he is kicked out of office. But the USA is still the Strongest/Loudest/and Kick Ass Nation in the World. We will come out of this shit first and be stronger for it.
175 | lobo91 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:20:25am |
re: #164 Walter L. Newton
Ok, got it. If I’m poor but single and childless, I get fucked.
Or don’t pay mortgage interest, or have a ton of medical bills, etc.
But basicaly, yeah…
176 | Kenneth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:20:31am |
re: #160 SFGoth
I used to think you were a moby. Now I think you’re just another eccentric lizard. ; P
178 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:21:05am |
re: #145 Iron Fist
Wiorse, he doesn’t get that him standing around with his thumb up his ass and a goofy expression on his face doesn’t instill confidence. He really has drunk his own koolaid. He thinks that since he won, everything is supposed to be all puppydogs and kittens.
And Unicorns. You can’t forget the Unicorns.
(We’re fucked. There’s going to be four years of this)
We’re f*cked. The puppies & kittens are f*cked. And so are the unicorns.
183 | Kenneth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:22:04am |
re: #179 DaddyG
That’s a given. Until at least 2012 all comments are sarcastic.
184 | Harry Tuttle Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:22:38am |
185 | debutaunt Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:22:38am |
re: #8 Killgore Trout
I don’t think so. That would mean that companies would pay you to own their stock. It would be like a grocery store giving you money to take food.
Fingers crossed - I hope Safeway does that!
186 | CyanSnowHawk Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:22:42am |
re: #123 JimmyTheClaw
Dinged down.
Not for content, just for leaving those damn email forwarding spaces in place.
187 | Sharmuta Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:23:22am |
I wonder if there’s a low number the market could hit that would cause 0bama to reassess his economic policies? Dow 6000? 5000? 4000?
I think it’s more likely that the change in economic policies will have something to do with the number 2010.
188 | brent Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:23:25am |
Now that I think about it, didn’t Hillary have her own little enemies list? What did she call the private dicks she used to go after Bill’s little indiscretions - a tramp squad?
I feel like a 70s era yippie - I’d consider it a badge of honor to be on these cats’ enemies list.
Maybe they should investigate Rove for firing attorneys - that seems like a good plan for turning it all around.
Anyone else shopping for a pitchfork? Very salty.
191 | Harry Tuttle Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:23:45am |
re: #184 Harry Tuttle
yes fer chrisakes its sarcasm.
I mean who would possible say such a thing and actually mean it?
Really?
192 | Noam Chumpski Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:23:52am |
193 | Kenneth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:24:00am |
“Stock Market Yo-Yo Watch”
It’s not a yo-yo anymore when the string is broken. It’s a rock.
194 | RaiderDan Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:24:02am |
As Jodi Miller on NewsBusted said “We all knew Obama wanted to confiscate wealth, we didn’t know he wanted to eliminate it altogether.”
Obama Daily Tracking Poll indeed.
The biased MSM polls on Obama’s approval rating (which oversample Democrats all the time and probably include lots of Henrietta Hughes types) will soon catch up with the Dow, and when gasoline creeps back up to $3 a gallon.
Obama will have about six more weeks of blaming Bush, and then it’ll look like whining.
195 | Kosh's Shadow Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:24:12am |
re: #157 yma o hyd
Here’s some more ‘good’ news:
Bank to ‘print’ £75bn of new money as it cuts rateYep - the interest rate is now down to 0.5%.
Perhaps we’d better start worrying about having to pay the banks for the priviledge of keeping our money …
Oh - and buy some wheelbarrows - £75bn is peanuts, I tellya, peanuts!
Well, I have to take my money out of Citizen’s Bank because they’re doing just that - I just keep some money in accounts there, and don’t do much with it, so they charge a $5/month fee.
Screw them, I’m taking all the money to a different bank.
197 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:24:18am |
re: #188 brent
Now that I think about it, didn’t Hillary have her own little enemies list? What did she call the private dicks she used to go after Bill’s little indiscretions - a tramp squad?
Clinton’s dick isn’t really private.
198 | Russkilitlover Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:24:54am |
re: #191 Harry Tuttle
I mean who would possible say such a thing and actually mean it?
Really?
99.99% of Obama supporters.
199 | Sharmuta Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:25:08am |
re: #186 CyanSnowHawk
Dinged down.
Not for content, just for leaving those damn email forwarding spaces in place.
Oh- I fully dinged it down for content.
201 | kafir lover Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:25:17am |
re: #144 Russkilitlover
Unless you believe (as I increasingly am) that it is an intentional and long-planned action coming to fruition.
The one thing that Obama has demonstrated is consistency in socialist/ultra-liberal philosophy. I think we have completely underestimated the intent of his administration which has no interest in preserving US economic independence, but rather to build a global new deal - the foundation of western democracy is in fact a hindrance for them achieving such a goal. These folks are not stupid, they are socialist idealogues who resent the very foundations upon which our country stands.
203 | lobo91 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:25:37am |
re: #191 Harry Tuttle
I mean who would possible say such a thing and actually mean it?
Really?
Harry Reid…Nancy Pelosi…Ted Kennedy…Barack Obama…Joe Biden…their minions in the MSM…Avanti…
204 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:26:10am |
re: #186 CyanSnowHawk
Dinged down.
Not for content, just for leaving those damn email forwarding spaces in place.
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205 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:26:21am |
re: #172 Iron Fist
It’s just a term to me. My mom works at H&R Block, so she does my taxes every year. The Earned Income tax credit is one of those redistribution of wealth mechanisms built into the tax code. I’ve gotten it on a couple of really bad years, and it amounts to some money. Like I said, it’ll probably bring you up to even at least.
Got it, thanks. Did it, no I don’t qualify.
206 | Spare O'Lake Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:26:37am |
re: #159 J Doc
You don’t see anything wrong with getting sprayed in the face with pepper spray because you question an officer’s lack of civility? I have learned to question authority, not be complacent to it.
It was the alien’s refusal to obey the border guard’s legal request which prompted the officer’s somewhat enthusiastic response. But don’t use the officer’s response to excuse the asshole’s illegal and provocative conduct.
207 | gmsc Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:26:41am |
Can we drive the stock market back to 1997 levels?
Yes, We Can!
Can we destroy the economy by forcing taxpayers to subsidize those who make bad economic decisions?
Yes, We Can!
208 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:26:49am |
re: #191 Harry Tuttle
I mean who would possible say such a thing and actually mean it?
Really?
You’ve never been to a college campus, have you?
210 | Sharmuta Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:27:05am |
re: #193 Kenneth
“Stock Market Yo-Yo Watch”
It’s not a yo-yo anymore when the string is broken. It’s a rock.
It’s the type of yo-yo with knots in the string, so the only thing it’s good for is dragging along the ground, and that’s about what we’re seeing.
211 | Kenneth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:27:24am |
re: #157 yma o hyd
Here’s some more ‘good’ news:
Bank to ‘print’ £75bn of new money as it cuts rateYep - the interest rate is now down to 0.5%.
Perhaps we’d better start worrying about having to pay the banks for the priviledge of keeping our money …
Oh - and buy some wheelbarrows - £75bn is peanuts, I tellya, peanuts!
That’s a sure fire sign the gov’t is moving to a pro-inflation policy. The only other choice is a rapid deflation, which would lead to widespread default and a collapse of the British pound.
212 | Erik The Red Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:27:29am |
re: #199 Sharmuta
Oh- I fully dinged it down for content.
Come on Sharmuta. I have posted worse on the LNDT. Wrong place wrong time maybe.
Good afternoon BTW.
213 | debutaunt Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:27:31am |
re: #35 turn
Hey KT, I’m willing to bet there are a lot of people out there who didn’t bail in their 401ks and are stuck riding this thing out (e.g. turn). My money is stuck in the market so I hope you are wrong about that 2 year thing.
My 401K was dropping so much last October, I cashed out.
216 | CyanSnowHawk Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:27:52am |
re: #155 Harry Tuttle
The market continues its decline today due in large part to the failed policies of the Bush administration.
The failure of the policy initiative to fix Fannie and Freddie has really hurt us.
217 | gmsc Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:27:59am |
re: #194 RaiderDan
As Jodi Miller on NewsBusted said “We all knew Obama wanted to confiscate wealth, we didn’t know he wanted to eliminate it altogether.”
Obama Daily Tracking Poll indeed.
The biased MSM polls on Obama’s approval rating (which oversample Democrats all the time and probably include lots of Henrietta Hughes types) will soon catch up with the Dow, and when gasoline creeps back up to $3 a gallon.Obama will have about six more weeks of blaming Bush, and then it’ll look like whining.
Too late - he and the democrats own the economic issue ever since the stimulus bill passed.
219 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:28:17am |
re: #202 buzzsawmonkey
There’s a “pube-lick servant” joke in there that probably shouldn’t be made.
If you don’t make that joke, then I won’t make my “polling the electorate” joke.
220 | jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:28:18am |
re: #187 Sharmuta
I wonder if there’s a low number the market could hit that would cause 0bama to reassess his economic policies? Dow 6000? 5000? 4000?
I think it’s more likely that the change in economic policies will have something to do with the number 2010.
Crashing the market is according to plan. When it’s bad enough watch for the 401(K) and Pension “bailout” socialization to be resurrected in the name of helping all those in the middle class destroyed by EVIL Wall Street.
Manufacture the crisis. (Cloward Piven)
Use the crisis. (Emmanuel)
221 | Harry Tuttle Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:28:24am |
re: #208 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
You’ve never been to a college campus, have you?
Crap, forgot the sarc tag on that one as well.
Why can’t you tell I am being sarcastic by the snarky smirk on my face?
226 | debutaunt Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:29:11am |
re: #38 snowcrash
I actually bought a 10lb bag of rice instead of the usual 3lb bag. My rationale was “just in case”. Obama has no idea how the Dow numbers reflect confidence in him, his policies and the future.
Some lefties are giddy about the Dow falling - they have no clue about what this really means.
228 | gmsc Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:29:50am |
re: #215 Iron Fist
Obama believes his own cult of personality. I don’t think he sees the real world at all anymore. So nothing is going to change his policy. His policy is working, you see. It’s just that the goddamn financial markets don’t see what a fucking genius he is.
[/NO Sarc. Not even a little]
Slight correction: It’s just that 0bama thinks that the goddamn financial markets don’t see what a fucking genius he is.
Believe me, the financial markets see exactly what type of genius he is, which is why we’re seeing the levels we’re seeing.
230 | lobo91 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:30:25am |
re: #227 buzzsawmonkey
I have to teach in a couple of hours—so yes, absolutely.
Just get it in a to go cup.
/don’t want to spill any
231 | Gus Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:30:28am |
After just one day following a minor rally on Wall Street the stock market is back on track following the Obama decent. This follows another day of hyperactivity from the Obama administration announcing another round of proposed regulations and increased government spending all that will impact businesses and decrease the future of an already diminishing GDP.
Instead of delaying his proposed communist socialist policies he has decided to pursue these enormously expensive and regulatory policies during an economic downturn of historic proportions. At the very least, the most prudent course of action would have been to delay these socialist policies until well after the recovery has taken place. The logical course of action is to not pursue these policies. However, the Obama administration does not deal with logic or common sense and instead has chosen to pursue an emotional route.
232 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:30:42am |
234 | Kenneth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:31:01am |
re: #226 debutaunt
Some lefties are giddy about the Dow falling - they have no clue about what this really means.
It means we are that much closer to the real revolution, comrade.
235 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:31:19am |
re: #226 debutaunt
Some lefties are giddy about the Dow falling - they have no clue about what this really means.
You’ve got that right. Someone here (can’t remember, sorry) posted some quotes from Kos a couple of days ago. They were unbelievable….all about greed, people getting what they deserve in the market, etc.
Wonder if any of them have retirement plans, IRA’s, 401(k)’s?
Hmm..what am I asking - it’s self-evident.
;-)
236 | avanti Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:31:32am |
OK, fair is fair. BHO needs to learn how to chose better gifts for foreign heads of state, first lady too.
237 | bolivar Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:31:35am |
re: #91 FrogMarch
I don’t have a count off hand. If Murtha still can’t lose his seat after all of this - then the system is rigged.
No the populace has too many um, uh derelict chromosomes in the gene pool….politely saying the people iz stoopud.
241 | jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:32:02am |
re: #229 MandyManners
Watch out or Otingoc will call you just as loony as Code Pink and Alex Jones.
How many “coincidences” does it take to convince a Cog?
242 | gonecamping Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:32:02am |
I have absolutely NO Respect for any so called intellectual that was all ga ga over Obama and is now becoming disillusioned. They should have Known Better from the git go.
Having said that, I do like the concept of Kramer et al becoming ‘useful idiots’. Idiots because they were partly responsible for Obama getting elected, and useful idiots because perhaps they might influence some of the ”sheep’ they had earlier influenced.
Like it or not, Obama is in office and we will need a ground swell throughout the country to try and curb the impending socialism he plans to impose on us. We cannot rely on conservatives to get the word out because most of the people on the street who voted for Obama will flat out not listen to reason from the typical conservative voice. It is the Left Leaning pundits who had earlier praised Obama that we truly need to try and ‘knock some sense’ into ‘the most uninformed voting base in history’.
Yes, Cramer and others sucked up to Obama before…and I would bet there are people who voted for Obama based on that! If these same mouthpieces can inform their audience that Obama is not what he portrayed himself, then perhaps folks who automatically tune out conservative voices will listen and finally see the light.
So rather than tossing Cramer and others under the bus, let the Useful Idiots preach to, and try to convert the Obamabots….it certainly won’t hurt and just might pay dividends.
re: #101 SFGoth
Cramer can S.T.F.U. He sucked up to Obama and now can just keep his head where the Sun don’t shine.
243 | debutaunt Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:32:05am |
re: #54 SFGoth
Time to pay off the equity line ($40k) and re-fi the mortgage down from $224k to $175k. That’ll still leave me between 50 & 100k cash + my dwindling stocks.
Cash going into cds and dvds?
244 | Joo-LiZ Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:32:08am |
re: #234 Kenneth
It means we are that much closer to the real revolution, comrade.
I feel like we are going back in time… just looking at the long term market data for the DOW… We’re already back to somewhere around ‘96-‘97… soon enough we’ll be pre-internet era.
245 | Chicago Blonde Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:32:23am |
re: #60 jorline
Mr. President…it’s NOT WORKING!
Rotating title?
T-shirt for next GOP or Conservative event?
246 | lobo91 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:32:31am |
re: #235 subsailor68
You’ve got that right. Someone here (can’t remember, sorry) posted some quotes from Kos a couple of days ago. They were unbelievable….all about greed, people getting what they deserve in the market, etc.
Wonder if any of them have retirement plans, IRA’s, 401(k)’s?
Hmm..what am I asking - it’s self-evident.
;-)
Does 7-11 even offer its employees a 401(k) plan?
248 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:33:07am |
re: #235 subsailor68
You’ve got that right. Someone here (can’t remember, sorry) posted some quotes from Kos a couple of days ago. They were unbelievable….all about greed, people getting what they deserve in the market, etc.
Wonder if any of them have retirement plans, IRA’s, 401(k)’s?
Hmm..what am I asking - it’s self-evident.
;-)
Most people living in their parent’s garage (it’s not a garage, it’s a carriage house!) don’t worry about such things.
250 | Kosh's Shadow Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:33:48am |
re: #206 Spare O’Lake
It was the alien’s refusal to obey the border guard’s legal request which prompted the officer’s somewhat enthusiastic response. But don’t use the officer’s response to excuse the asshole’s illegal and provocative conduct.
I would have told him that since he seems afraid to turn off the car’s engine, it gives me a reasonable suspicion. Please leave the engine on in case it is rigged to a bomb, and pull over there until we get a bomb search team. It will be a couple of hours, and he may NOT get out of the car until it comes.
252 | Amer-I-Can Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:33:55am |
re: #125 J Doc
His previous run ins have all involved his “asking” border patrol officers to say please. There is absolutely no reason to exhibit bad manners when dealing with the public…no matter what your level of authority is. We pay their salaries. They are public servants, we are not their servants.
I have to call BS Doc! If there are “previous run ins”… this guy is just looking for trouble. I have passed through the borders both north and south. The people that I have dealt with are usually short of word and very direct in what they need to get their jobs done so that we can move on down the road. I don’t take this as rude, just efficient. This Canadian Asshat has a stick up his butt and is looking for reasons to “find” trouble. It’s just a matter of time before he REALLY pisses someone off, and then he will be WISHING he just got pepper sprayed.
253 | lawhawk Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:34:04am |
re: #59 itellu3times
Market *could* make a bottom around here over the next week or six, but it’s very undecided. Per the press of the last few days as Wall Street and MSM start waking up a bit about the cluelessness of Obama and all his little friends (Geithner, Orszag, good grief), a few elements of existential panic are beginning to surface outside of LGF. If these catch on, I dunno where the stock market bottom is, nor when it will recover. I’m not ready to panic yet myself, but this market has been one cascade of oh-this-is-the-bottom for about a year now. Unprecedented in a bunch of ways. Unpredictable by anyone currently on the planet.
The markets have a herd mentality, and right now they’re running scared. The bears don’t even know where a bottom is. There are no real safe havens in the market - sectors that are relatively safe compared with the rest of the market because the situation is so badly deteriorated and because the Administration’s policies are anti-business on a fundamental level.
We aren’t going to see the Administration propose corp tax cuts across the board, and they’ll dabble on the margins claiming that they’re cutting corp taxes, but the reality is that they’re busy proposing even more taxes - including carbon emission taxes that will stifle what little manufacturing is left in the country, the costs of which will be borne by all.
The markets have figured out that this Administration isn’t going to help them out anytime soon, and there’s no reason for them to show any confidence in the markets either.
There is going to be a reckoning, especially as some of the biggest names in corporate America are reduced to penny stock status - Citi - or worse - bankrupt - GM. A problem I see is that taking the steps the Adminstration has to delay that reckoning is actually going to make the problem worse - lengthening the recession, deepening the misery, and preventing the markets from adjusting to the new circumstances.
255 | Kenneth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:34:48am |
re: #244 Joo-LiZ
I feel like we are going back in time… just looking at the long term market data for the DOW… We’re already back to somewhere around ‘96-‘97… soon enough we’ll be pre-internet era.
It looks more like 1931 to me.
256 | DaddyG Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:35:04am |
re: #214 buzzsawmonkey
I love it when you go all Southern Belle.
Bless her heart (which in Southern is a polite introduction to an insult).
257 | yma o hyd Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:35:06am |
re: #211 Kenneth
That’s a sure fire sign the gov’t is moving to a pro-inflation policy. The only other choice is a rapid deflation, which would lead to widespread default and a collapse of the British pound.
££ is near equity with the Euro already - and the latest news is that food prices are going up.
Inflationary monetary policy with the lowest interest rates ever - well, looks like we’re going to stagflation - just like in the late 1970s. That was another Labour government …
Then came Maggie.
Interesting times.
258 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:35:07am |
re: #246 lobo91
Does 7-11 even offer its employees a 401(k) plan?
LOL! Good point. If you ask them, they’ll probably say something like: “Huh? Oh, you mean that box of Special 401(k) cereal I bought yesterday?”
260 | Spare O'Lake Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:35:23am |
re: #249 MandyManners
Maybe you don’t tilt your head back enough when you shoot it down.
The grand old drink of the South!
(aka gutrot supremo)
261 | gmsc Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:35:24am |
re: #251 MandyManners
Senator Claghorn!
Ever since I discovered it, “It’s a joke, son!” has become one of my favorite old movies.
263 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:35:58am |
re: #258 subsailor68
LOL! Good point. If you ask them, they’ll probably say something like: “Huh? Oh, you mean that box of Special 401(k) cereal I bought yesterday?”
No, dude, 401(k) is that window-cleaning stuff.
264 | CyanSnowHawk Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:36:28am |
re: #226 debutaunt
Some lefties are giddy about the Dow falling - they have no clue about what this really means.
They think it’s okay, their God-Emperor has told them so.
265 | lobo91 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:36:29am |
re: #253 lawhawk
We aren’t going to see the Administration propose corp tax cuts across the board, and they’ll dabble on the margins claiming that they’re cutting corp taxes, but the reality is that they’re busy proposing even more taxes - including carbon emission taxes that will stifle what little manufacturing is left in the country, the costs of which will be borne by all.
Not to mention the effect of the Card Check plan they intend to force down our throats.
267 | Sharmuta Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:36:50am |
re: #241 jcm
How many “coincidences” does it take to convince a Cog?
I would say none. He’s impervious to them. He would just say “Wow” or “Righto” and think you’re crazy, try to change the subject, and get indignant if you call him on his BS.
268 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:36:56am |
re: #261 gmsc
Ever since I discovered it, “It’s a joke, son!” has become one of my favorite old movies.
“The boy’s about as bright as a pound of wet leather.”
/Foghorn Leghorn
273 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:37:43am |
re: #263 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
No, dude, 401(k) is that window-cleaning stuff.
“It’s what I use to clean the tires on my bike.” - Timmy (Night Asst. Mgr.)
274 | Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:37:44am |
re: #218 MandyManners
Mint julep time?
My mother was a Southern Belle and, like her mother & grandmother before her, a true lady. She didn’t curse at all until she was drunk.
275 | Chicago Blonde Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:37:50am |
re: #262 Iron Fist
Hunker-nomics?
I’m with you. Laying low, spending as little as possible, if I have to buy, get a good [whatever] so at least the thing lasts.
276 | ThinkRight Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:38:12am |
All of you Racist Whiners need to stop blaming the markets and economy on the Dems (that have controlled both houses) and Obama !
This is all the CEO’s and Bush’s Fault and you know it !
Obama is gonna fix everything including Global Warming !
You all should just shut the He!l up and start conforming !
/libtard off
277 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:38:13am |
re: #270 jcm
It goes beyond lame.
The bust of Sir Winston Churchill.
The gift.
The press conference.
The meeting of couples.
The State Dinner.It’s an out and out insult.
There was a State Dinner? Or did the Obamas just give the Browns a gift card to Chilis?
278 | snowcrash Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:38:24am |
re: #236 avanti
White House has protocol advisers. The Obamas should make use of the services available. They are our first family and as such they embarrass us all with such gifts.
279 | gmsc Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:38:32am |
re: #268 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
“The boy’s about as bright as a pound of wet leather.”
/Foghorn Leghorn
I always liked “sharp as a bowling ball” and “sharp as a sack of wet mice” myself.
Senator Claghorn is the “Allen’s Alley” character that inspired Foghorn Leghorn!
280 | Spartacus50 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:38:38am |
Pay no attention to these daily fits and starts of the stock market
282 | debutaunt Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:39:01am |
re: #120 CyanSnowHawk
I read this morning a beautiful description of yesterdays mini rally. To paraphrase, ‘A bounce off a rocky ledge on the cliff face during our freefall’.
Wounded cat bounce.
283 | lobo91 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:39:23am |
re: #262 Iron Fist
You are right. The markets don’t lie over time. you may be able to fudge them in the short term (that’s how Soro$ makes his money), but in the end they are a good predictor of what is to come. I just hope to keep my job, and the Girlfriend keeps her job, and we can just hunker down and weather the storm. I could have been in a better position than I am, but I’m doing a lot better than a lot of people.
Sadly, I’m not even sure if I’ll have a job after May, when my current active duty orders run out. They just dumped a pile of new training missions on our plate for units deploying to Afghanistan, while simultaneously warning that we may lose 3/4 of the trainers we have mobilized.
285 | SFGoth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:39:37am |
re: #243 debutaunt
Cash going into cds and dvds?
Marijuana, scotch, and new formal goth/period wear. If we’re going down, I’m going to feel good and look fucking hot along the way.
286 | Kenneth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:39:48am |
re: #257 yma o hyd
Low interest rates and an increase in money supply are how a central bank creates inflation. By definition, inflation is what you get when you have too much cash chasing after too few goods (and services). Once inflation really kicks in, the central banks will move to raise interest rates to slow down the inflationary pressure. This is the plan. Obama is working toward it too.
287 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:40:02am |
re: #278 snowcrash
White House has protocol advisers. The Obamas should make use of the services available. They are our first family and as such they embarrass us all with such gifts.
What a terrific point! It does raise the question: are the Obamas simply ignoring these folks, or are they listening to them and not getting it?
288 | SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:40:13am |
re: #277 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
There was a State Dinner? Or did the Obamas just give the Browns a gift card to Chilis?
Ha. Gift cards are all the rage in Baltimore. Ask Mrs. Dixon.
289 | SunshineGirl Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:40:15am |
The market will recover and rebound if— and when— the Obama Administration does something more than talk. The concept of leadership is completely lost on these liberals.
Oh
Brother
Another
Major mistake
America!
290 | CyanSnowHawk Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:40:18am |
re: #231 Gus 802
Instead of delaying his proposed
communistsocialist policies he has decided to pursue these enormously expensive and regulatory policies during an economic downturn of historic proportions. At the very least, the most prudent course of action would have been to delay these socialist policies until well after the recovery has taken place. The logical course of action is to not pursue these policies. However, the Obama administration does not deal with logic or common sense and instead has chosen to pursue an emotional route.
But if the recovery took place, as it would without the Messiah’s interference, it would demonstrate that capitalism is self correcting and we didn’t actually need those socialist policies. That’s the last thing he and his cronies want.
292 | jimzinsocal Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:40:29am |
re: #253 lawhawk
The markets have a herd mentality, and right now they’re running scared. The bears don’t even know where a bottom is. There are no real safe havens in the market - sectors that are relatively safe compared with the rest of the market because the situation is so badly deteriorated and because the Administration’s policies are anti-business on a fundamental level.
We aren’t going to see the Administration propose corp tax cuts across the board, and they’ll dabble on the margins claiming that they’re cutting corp taxes, but the reality is that they’re busy proposing even more taxes - including carbon emission taxes that will stifle what little manufacturing is left in the country, the costs of which will be borne by all.
The markets have figured out that this Administration isn’t going to help them out anytime soon, and there’s no reason for them to show any confidence in the markets either.
There is going to be a reckoning, especially as some of the biggest names in corporate America are reduced to penny stock status - Citi - or worse - bankrupt - GM. A problem I see is that taking the steps the Adminstration has to delay that reckoning is actually going to make the problem worse - lengthening the recession, deepening the misery, and preventing the markets from adjusting to the new circumstances.
I couldnt agree more. I call the “market” the “spoiled child” but it amounts to the same thing.
If the Obama Administration did a bit less “helping”[Citigroup]
And stopped with the daily economic “sermons” perhaps things might settle for awhile.
Also I consider “the market” something of a used car buyer.
Of course theyll perpetuate rumors of “trouble ahead” for a short term ride up.
293 | Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:40:30am |
re: #281 MandyManners
ROFLMAO!
Yeah, my family are a little rough around the edges - adds to their charm.
294 | yma o hyd Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:40:34am |
re: #220 jcm
Crashing the market is according to plan. When it’s bad enough watch for the 401(K) and Pension “bailout” socialization to be resurrected in the name of helping all those in the middle class destroyed by EVIL Wall Street.
Manufacture the crisis. (Cloward Piven)
Use the crisis. (Emmanuel)
The trouble with that is that the market is no longer restricted to just one country.
What looked good for Cloward Piven and looks good for Emmanuel is unfortunately outdated, as far as the ecomony is concerned.
If they keep on this path there won’t be anything for them ro use for thei ‘social rescue’ because all the other economies will be down the drain as well.
No money - no manufacturing - no buyers - even less manufacturing - even less income … endless spiral. Globally.
Stupid LLL asshats.
295 | jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:40:43am |
re: #277 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
There was a State Dinner? Or did the Obamas just give the Browns a gift card to Chilis?
Drive thru at Mickey D’s on the way from the airport.
296 | debutaunt Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:40:47am |
re: #129 Walter L. Newton
Consider this blog has a mixed audience, and this is not even no where near topic, what the fuck were you thinking by posting this?
No blood in brain.
297 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:41:08am |
re: #278 snowcrash
White House has protocol advisers. The Obamas should make use of the services available. They are our first family and as such they embarrass us all with such gifts.
Obama saw “protocol,” thought it said “proctology” & declined to meet them.
299 | SFGoth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:41:34am |
re: #233 MandyManners
Couple a shots of Southern Comfort, too?
Ugh too. I prefer Speyside comfort ;->
301 | lobo91 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:41:52am |
302 | Kenneth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:42:06am |
re: #291 MandyManners
They don’t give a flying fuck.
Hey, the limeys got to meet The One and his lovely consort The Wab. What more could they want?
303 | Gus Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:42:21am |
re: #280 Spartacus50
U.S., European Stocks Drop as China Signals No Added Stimulus
Stocks in U.S., Europe Slump With S&P 500 Index at Lowest Level Since 1996
U.S. Economy: Jobless Claims Exceed 600,000, Productivity Falls
304 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:42:26am |
re: #232 Walter L. Newton
OT- quick opinion on last night’s episode?
It was a good episode but not great. I have a problem with Sawyer, they are trying to make him into a hick heart throb so he’s a pretty weak character. I like how Jin’s English varies depending on what time he’s in. It’s a nice touch. I’m also really impressed with the blonde chick who’s Sawyer’s love interest. Her character is a little weak but she’s a very good actress. I spent most of the episode trying to remember where I know the Darma leader from. I think he was the evil guard in the Green Mile. I also think he was Billy in Cuckoo’s Nest.
305 | Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:42:33am |
Been chatting with a friend of mine’s brother. Check out this fine talking point:
The U.S. accounts for 50% of the whole world’s military expenses (this is true year in and year out whether we are at war or not), yet we only account for 4.5% of the world’s population. Think about how much better we would be, as a country, if all that money, year after year, was put to use improving our health care, roads, energy grids, schools, etc.? The Cold War tactics of the KGB created this financial boondoggle. Much like the attacks on 9/11 did because we played into their hands by invading 2 countries and have spent already 1 trillion dollars with nothing to show for it. We, as a country, are reactionary and our enemies know this. Yet we keep playing into their hands and we shoot ourselves in our collective feet….What I am saying is that wars, threats of wars, etc. are big money and can easily be started. The amount of money physically lost during the Iraq war alone would pay for the SCHIP program for a couple of years. It is our love of all things related to war that will be our undoing. Quite an accomplishment for a “Christian” country. I guess someone should of read past Malachi and gotten to the New Testament and the new ethic that replaced an eye for an eye. Oops, I hate pointing out that Christians really are not Christlike, it does bother them so.
So ‘Soviet expansion’ was no real threat. 9/11 and 3000 dead is just playing into their hands… 1 trillion with nothing to show for it…and shooting ourselves in the collective feet…
Are we really a ‘Christian’ nation? We can all worship how we want last time I checked.
What might be your input into this conversation. I am interested.
306 | Sharmuta Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:42:34am |
re: #270 jcm
It goes beyond lame.
The bust of Sir Winston Churchill.
The gift.
The press conference.
The meeting of couples.
The State Dinner.It’s an out and out insult.
I don’t see why 0bama needs to be gracious to foreign heads of state- they should feel blessed, blessed!, to be in his presence, you know. That’s gift enough. ////
307 | avanti Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:43:10am |
re: #278 snowcrash
White House has protocol advisers. The Obamas should make use of the services available. They are our first family and as such they embarrass us all with such gifts.
I found the British press reaction, apparently not the first time Brown felt snubbed. GW, gave him a bomber jacket. Still, a boxed set of DVD’s, even one whipped up by Hollywood is even lamer then a jacket. Brown was hoping to get some rock star rub off, and he was blown off.
308 | brent Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:43:14am |
I feel very dumb, all of a sudden - this is the plan, isn’t it?
You can’t push any of this social program stuff thru if and after the economy is back on track, and you can ask for more money later, as long as the economy is in the toilet.
Well played, DumbO-bama…. Well played.
* I think he’s touchy about them ears of his…
309 | Shr_Nfr Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:43:34am |
The volume to shares traded ratio is out of whack. Just ask ABummer.
310 | Gus Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:43:46am |
re: #290 CyanSnowHawk
Correct. Doing the right thing for the Obama administration would entail following a free-market approach rather than a quasi Leninist approach.
311 | Chicago Blonde Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:43:59am |
I watched part of Lou Dobbs last night, and he was wondering when we’re going to stop blaming Bush for all our economic woes - and some other Lizard noted CNN barged in with another feature on one of O’s parties.
312 | Cathypop Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:44:05am |
re: #178 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
We’re f*cked. The puppies & kittens are f*cked. And so are the unicorns.
Nah. The unicorns are dinner. MMMMM
313 | MrSoCal Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:44:18am |
My broker Obama said he hopes the market changes direction and I should buy as long as it is with someone else’s money.
314 | jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:44:24am |
re: #306 Sharmuta
I don’t see why 0bama needs to be gracious to foreign heads of state- they should feel blessed, blessed!, to be in his presence, you know. That’s gift enough. ////
I was going to write almost the same thing in response to re: #302 Kenneth
Hey, the limeys got to meet The One and his lovely consort The Wab. What more could they want?
315 | SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:44:48am |
re: #308 brent
I feel very dumb, all of a sudden - this is the plan, isn’t it?
You can’t push any of this social program stuff thru if and after the economy is back on track, and you can ask for more money later, as long as the economy is in the toilet.
Well played, DumbO-bama…. Well played.
* I think he’s touchy about them ears of his…
Speaking of which…I think they’ve been altered.
316 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:45:12am |
OT, but our world seems to be getting stranger and stranger:
Stranger Shows Up at Funeral, Hits Dead Man
From the article:
When deputies asked the woman why she acted the way she did, the woman said “she felt that it was the right thing to do at the time,” according to the report. The woman told deputies she knew no one at the church, according to the report.
(I wonder if she’s dating the moron at the Canadian border?)
317 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:45:15am |
re: #305 Oh no…Sand People!
Been chatting with a friend of mine’s brother. Check out this fine talking point:
“Quite an accomplishment for a “Christian” country. I guess someone should of read past Malachi and gotten to the New Testament and the new ethic that replaced an eye for an eye. Oops, I hate pointing out that Christians really are not Christlike, it does bother them so.”
Are we really a ‘Christian’ nation? We can all worship how we want last time I checked.What might be your input into this conversation. I am interested.
I read the NT once, on my second time now & still haven’t found the part that says that the best way to bring about the Kingdom of God is to hand over all power to a secular state.
318 | avanti Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:45:19am |
re: #287 subsailor68
What a terrific point! It does raise the question: are the Obamas simply ignoring these folks, or are they listening to them and not getting it?
I wonder if it was not done on purpose so as to not help Brown politically. I have no idea of the politics involved.
319 | ThinkRight Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:45:37am |
re: #310 Gus 802
Correct. Doing the right thing for the Obama administration would entail
following a free-market approach rather than a quasi Leninist approacha resignation.
Sorry I had to correct you
321 | SFGoth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:45:48am |
re: #300 MandyManners
That’s the spirit!
www.galleryserpentine.com/ProductDetails.aspx?productID=262
in black with galleryserpentine.com
and those black/grey stripey morning pants from late 19th c. and boots, + top hat and shotgun. ;->
(if the links violate posting rules, please delete)
322 | Wendya Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:45:52am |
re: #236 avanti
OK, fair is fair. BHO needs to learn how to chose better gifts for foreign heads of state, first lady too.
Obama has protocol officers who are supposed to instruct the Obamas in their dealings with foreign leaders. Apparently, he told them to take a hike.
Nothing like simultaneously insulting the citizens of another country while embarrassing your own.
323 | Honorary Yooper Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:45:58am |
re: #294 yma o hyd
The trouble with that is that the market is no longer restricted to just one country.
What looked good for Cloward Piven and looks good for Emmanuel is unfortunately outdated, as far as the ecomony is concerned.
If they keep on this path there won’t be anything for them ro use for thei ‘social rescue’ because all the other economies will be down the drain as well.
No money - no manufacturing - no buyers - even less manufacturing - even less income … endless spiral. Globally.Stupid LLL asshats.
As I’ve said before, if this goes beyond a certain point, you can go right on ahead and welcome the Obamadepression. This will be like the 1930s. There will be no rescue because as bad off as America could be, other places will have it much, much worse. And don’t look to China for help either. We go down, they go down. Europe’s on the brink of breaking their banks, and Japan’s no better off either. I fear it may be a rocky two or three years at the least. I use the term Obamadepression because I want to make him own it a la Hoover and 1929.
324 | Erik The Red Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:46:25am |
re: #304 Killgore Trout
Hey I am one season behind here. NO SPOILING PLEASE.
325 | Gus Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:46:59am |
re: #319 ThinkRight
Sorry I had to correct you
Thanks. I was being kind. Following resignation should be deportation. Perhaps, Cuba.
/
326 | opinionated Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:47:38am |
A few news reports I saw yesterday credited Obama for the rally based on his [mangled] buy recommendation.
So I guess today will be blamed on Obama! Or not.
327 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:47:57am |
re: #316 subsailor68
OT, but our world seems to be getting stranger and stranger:
Stranger Shows Up at Funeral, Hits Dead Man
From the article:
When deputies asked the woman why she acted the way she did, the woman said “she felt that it was the right thing to do at the time,” according to the report. The woman told deputies she knew no one at the church, according to the report.
(I wonder if she’s dating the moron at the Canadian border?)
What Napoleon said about invading Russia, or why Bill Cosby said about having five kids.
329 | jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:48:16am |
re: #287 subsailor68
What a terrific point! It does raise the question: are the Obamas simply ignoring these folks, or are they listening to them and not getting it?
The permanent WH staff knows how the protocols work, and what goes into a State visit.
This tells me Obama’s staff over ruled the recommendations of the permanent staff.
Somebody made a decision to do things this way.
Why?
330 | Sharmuta Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:48:17am |
re: #314 jcm
That’s because GMTA. These foreign mortals are lucky they’ve been allowed to bask in the glory of The 0ne™.
331 | Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:48:27am |
re: #289 SunshineGirl
The market will recover and rebound if— and when— the Obama Administration does something more than talk. The concept of leadership is completely lost on these liberals.
Oh
Brother
Another
Major mistake
America!
Oh
Brother
Are we going screwed to the point that
My bottom is sore.
And I really have no idea what to do about it because my letters and faxes are all falling on deaf ears from politicians who are just grateful to be employed at a job for the next year or so….
O.B.A.M.A.a.e?
333 | Chicago Blonde Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:48:38am |
re: #305 Oh no…Sand People!
Sand People -
Ask your friend to Google the Muslim Brotherhood, and note when it was founded.
Have him Google Sayid Qtub.
Was it Kruschev that said he’d bury us? Here:
336 | gmsc Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:49:07am |
As I write this, the market is at 6,629.96, a level last seen on Jan. 10, 1997.
Back then, Yassir Arafat was still alive, and Bill Clinton was getting ready to be sworn in as president for his second term.
Here in Las Vegas, the Hacienda had just been imploded, and construction was beginning on the same lot to build the Mandalay Bay. The Sands had also been imploded so that construction could begin on the Venetian.
People were still talking about JonBenét Ramsey, who had just been killed in her parents’ basement on the day after Christmas ‘96.
In business, two of the most common topics were Apple’s purchase of NeXT, and Alan Greenspan’s speech from just over a month before in which he claimed the market unduly escalated asset values due to “irrational exuberence”.
337 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:49:27am |
re: #304 Killgore Trout
It was a good episode but not great. I have a problem with Sawyer, they are trying to make him into a hick heart throb so he’s a pretty weak character. I like how Jin’s English varies depending on what time he’s in. It’s a nice touch. I’m also really impressed with the blonde chick who’s Sawyer’s love interest. Her character is a little weak but she’s a very good actress. I spent most of the episode trying to remember where I know the Darma leader from. I think he was the evil guard in the Green Mile. I also think he was Billy in Cuckoo’s Nest.
Guard correct. Billy Bibbit was played by Brad Dourif.
Last night episode (IMHO) was a set up episode for the second half of the season. It was a housekeeping exercise. Get everyone placed (some in 1977, some in 2009, some in ?), different “whens” same place. And now we know what the basic plot arc for the next 8 episodes, get the survivors back together.
Which, I suspect will be up to Desmond, since he seems to be special and can bounce between time lines.
It’s all like a record (the Island) and the time lines are the songs. You can only be in one time line at a time. No paradoxes.
That’s why Ben is in 2009, on the Hydra Island. Because “young Ben” is part of Dharma, circa 1977.
Did you see the statue of Nut or Anabis (I think it’s Nut)?
338 | yma o hyd Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:49:37am |
re: #286 Kenneth
Low interest rates and an increase in money supply are how a central bank creates inflation. By definition, inflation is what you get when you have too much cash chasing after too few goods (and services). Once inflation really kicks in, the central banks will move to raise interest rates to slow down the inflationary pressure. This is the plan. Obama is working toward it too.
That is the plan indeed.
Pity the Bank of England didn’t do this (raise interest rates) when we had this enormous housing boom, on top of the huge amount of personal debts.
Erm, well, Gord wanted the happy boom times to go on …
So what guarantees do we ahve that they’ll follow the plan now?
And lets not forget that in the meantime, the working people, the so-called, much derided middle class will have been impoverished, as will all the pensioners who see their savings and stocks and bonds shrivel on a daily basis. Many of us who rely on that little extra income are looking at pretty hard times.
339 | redc1c4 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:49:38am |
re: #203 lobo91
Harry Reid…Nancy Pelosi…Ted Kennedy…Barack Obama…Joe Biden…their minions in the MSM…Avanti…
Cognito…..
340 | Gus Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:49:39am |
re: #332 buzzsawmonkey
Maybe you are someone else can start a “Burma Shave” series regarding the antics of El Presidente Obama.
343 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:50:08am |
344 | DaddyG Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:50:15am |
re: #316 subsailor68
OT, but our world seems to be getting stranger and stranger:
Stranger Shows Up at Funeral, Hits Dead Man
From the article:
When deputies asked the woman why she acted the way she did, the woman said “she felt that it was the right thing to do at the time,” according to the report. The woman told deputies she knew no one at the church, according to the report.
(I wonder if she’s dating the moron at the Canadian border?)
Perhaps she needed a good stiff belt?
345 | mockery jones Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:50:18am |
so what are the chances when all is said and done that ‘Obama’ becomes a verb meaning to lay economic waste to the nation you have been charged to support and defend?
346 | Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:50:19am |
re: #317 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I read the NT once, on my second time now & still haven’t found the part that says that the best way to bring about the Kingdom of God is to hand over all power to a secular state.
That does seem to be absent, I agree.
347 | doppelganglander Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:50:20am |
re: #285 SFGoth
Marijuana, scotch, and new formal goth/period wear. If we’re going down, I’m going to feel good and look fucking hot along the way.
You need to post a picture.
348 | Zimriel Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:50:28am |
re: #23 Steve Rogers
Every time Obama speaks he causes the Stock Market to plunge even lower. The solution is obvious: Someone unplug his teleprompter.
The Politico just said that Obama IS his TelePrompTer. if it did get unplugged, Obama might just melt down on air and start sucking his thumb.
349 | jorline Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:50:30am |
I hear the Biden and the union big wigs are living it up in Florida at the AFL-CIO convention. We’re paying for parties everywhere.
Because of the damn right wing leaning media I can’t find a link.
350 | Erik The Red Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:50:56am |
re: #334 Killgore Trout
Sorry.
NP. I love that show and have to watch each episode at least twice to keep up. (I am not to clever).
351 | Sharmuta Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:51:00am |
re: #329 jcm
The permanent WH staff knows how the protocols work, and what goes into a State visit.
This tells me Obama’s staff over ruled the recommendations of the permanent staff.
Somebody made a decision to do things this way.
Why?
I think the 0bamas operate on a similar plane as the clintons- it’s their way or the highway.
The difference is that the clintons knew how to play the game better- they would give an inch here and there because they knew they’d take a mile later.
The 0bamas seem to work on the “our way or the highway” philosophy and they do it by burning bridges.
352 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:51:21am |
re: #318 avanti
I wonder if it was not done on purpose so as to not help Brown politically. I have no idea of the politics involved.
That may be an underlying cause, but I’m with you in not knowing what benefit Obama gets from trashing Brown. Unless it was Brown’s call for “globalism”?
354 | Gus Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:51:44am |
re: #348 Zimriel
The Politico just said that Obama IS his TelePrompTer. if it did get unplugged, Obama might just melt down on air and start sucking his thumb.
When can we start calling him Hal Obama 9000?
355 | Noam Chumpski Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:52:01am |
357 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:52:11am |
re: #329 jcm
Exactly…posted a reply to Avanti on that very question.
358 | Russkilitlover Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:52:12am |
DOW now off -254 with another hour of trading to go. Here’s a suggestion for NY Lizards buy a little antacid stand and set up right outside the NYSE.
359 | CyanSnowHawk Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:52:13am |
re: #285 SFGoth
Marijuana, scotch, and new formal goth/period wear. If we’re going down, I’m going to feel good and look fucking hot along the way.
“This isn’t flying, it’s falling, with style.”
360 | Erik The Red Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:52:13am |
re: #337 Walter L. Newton
Guard correct. Billy Bibbit was played by Brad Dourif.
Last night episode (IMHO) was a set up episode for the second half of the season. It was a housekeeping exercise. Get everyone placed (some in 1977, some in 2009, some in ?), different “whens” same place. And now we know what the basic plot arc for the next 8 episodes, get the survivors back together.
Which, I suspect will be up to Desmond, since he seems to be special and can bounce between time lines.
It’s all like a record (the Island) and the time lines are the songs. You can only be in one time line at a time. No paradoxes.
That’s why Ben is in 2009, on the Hydra Island. Because “young Ben” is part of Dharma, circa 1977.
Did you see the statue of Nut or Anabis (I think it’s Nut)?
Come on Walter. Please post a DO NOT READ for Erik The Red.//
363 | kafir lover Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:52:34am |
re: #305 Oh no…Sand People!
We are no longer a Christian nation, but secularist. There was a recent statistic, which I’d have to search for, but estimated that despite the number of people who claim to be Christian there was around 9% who actually believed the biblical depiction of Christ. This means there are plenty of Christian culturalists, and based on a general survey of my neighborhood and workplace, I would say that’s about right.
364 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:52:35am |
re: #350 Erik The Red
NP. I love that show and have to watch each episode at least twice to keep up. (I am not to clever).
I hope you skipped my post above. Now that I know you are a fan and you are a season behind, I won’t chatter about the show when I see you online.
365 | SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:52:48am |
re: #349 jorline
I hear the Biden and the union big wigs are living it up in Florida at the AFL-CIO convention. We’re paying for parties everywhere.
Because of the damn right wing leaning media I can’t find a link.
and some asshat union guy says “we’re working 12-14 hour days.”
Bwwaaahaaahaaaaahaaaaa.
366 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:52:51am |
re: #351 Sharmuta
I think the 0bamas operate on a similar plane as the clintons- it’s their way or the highway.
The difference is that the clintons knew how to play the game better- they would give an inch here and there because they knew they’d take a mile later.
The 0bamas seem to work on the “our way or the highway” philosophy and they do it by burning bridges.
That’s OK. Stimulus money will be used to fix those bridges & make new jobs.
/
367 | Chicago Blonde Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:53:04am |
And on that note, I’ve got to bail again - goodbye Lizards, if I can’t come back later I’ll see you tomorrow.
368 | MrSilverDragon Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:53:27am |
369 | debutaunt Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:53:27am |
370 | Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:53:29am |
re: #333 Chicago Blonde
Sand People -
Ask your friend to Google the Muslim Brotherhood, and note when it was founded.
Have him Google Sayid Qtub.
Was it Kruschev that said he’d bury us? Here:
I will have to do that. I just hate the tone of, “It’s all our fault!” Guilt. Self Loathing. Redistribute wealth to help them feel good. “Maybe if we disarmed EVERYONE would LOVE US AGAIN!”… blah blah blah…
371 | doppelganglander Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:53:39am |
re: #305 Oh no…Sand People!
Hi, Sand People! I think you’re friend’s brother needs a tutorial in the responsibilities of the federal government under the Constitution, vs. his bleeding ponytail wish list. I won’t even start on his Christian-bashing. Wouldn’t be Christian of me.
372 | Gus Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:53:41am |
re: #366 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
That’s OK. Stimulus money will be used to fix those bridges & make new jobs.
/
Shovel ready. For the grave.
373 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:53:48am |
re: #360 Erik The Red
Come on Walter. Please post a DO NOT READ for Erik The Red.//
Did you see my other comments above, I tried to warn you. You didn’t post your “don’t spoil it” comment until AFTER I posted.
374 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:53:49am |
375 | jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:53:51am |
re: #351 Sharmuta
I think the 0bamas operate on a similar plane as the clintons- it’s their way or the highway.
The difference is that the clintons knew how to play the game better- they would give an inch here and there because they knew they’d take a mile later.
The 0bamas seem to work on the “our way or the highway” philosophy and they do it by burning bridges.
In a word….
376 | MikeAlv77 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:53:52am |
re: #126 Iron Fist
You are paying FICA, Medicare, and crap like that. With that low an income, though, I’d have thought you would have qualified for the “Earned Income” tax credit. That would have at least pulled you up to even, I’d think.
The EIC for a single person tops out at about $7200.. he wouldn’t get it
( I volunteer doing tax returns for low income people - VITA Program )
377 | yma o hyd Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:54:02am |
re: #305 Oh no…Sand People!
Been chatting with a friend of mine’s brother. Check out this fine talking point:
So ‘Soviet expansion’ was no real threat. 9/11 and 3000 dead is just playing into their hands… 1 trillion with nothing to show for it…and shooting ourselves in the collective feet…
Are we really a ‘Christian’ nation? We can all worship how we want last time I checked.
What might be your input into this conversation. I am interested.
I’d say he typifies the sort of capitalist of whom we can now say, to paraphrase Lenin and make it more appropriate for our times, that if he were the last infidel, he’d be comfortable to sell the sabre to the jihadist with which he’d be decapitated.
378 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:54:06am |
re: #365 SasquatchOnSteroids
and some asshat union guy says “we’re working 12-14 hour days.”
Bwwaaahaaahaaaaahaaaaa.
But he forgot to add: “a year”.
;-)
379 | Occasional Reader Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:54:13am |
re: #332 buzzsawmonkey
Your post was crawling, and it stunk!
But of all the dead thread junk
I’m most grateful for that post from buzz-monkee
380 | Dr. Shalit Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:54:16am |
Lemme See Now -
For about $10 on can own a share of GM, Ford, Citigroup, and Bank of America, and get change. Makes the lunch specials at TGIF and Appleby’s sound expensive.
-S-
381 | Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:54:23am |
re: #361 Iron Fist
So I take it this guy survived his partial birth abortion? ‘Cause it looks like they done sucked his brain right out of his head…
But but but…has a degree in Philosophy!
382 | Erik The Red Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:54:27am |
re: #364 Walter L. Newton
Thank You. Chat all you want. If you see me just give a warning.:)
383 | Rancher Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:54:37am |
There is a rule of thumb that a market that has declined 50% will decline another 50%. Look to the Dow to drop to 3500.
384 | opinionated Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:54:51am |
Anyone see The Daily Show last night?
The first part of the show was an all out attack on CNBC for daring to question our dear omnipotent leader.
385 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:55:01am |
re: #374 Killgore Trout
I’m off line about LOST while Erik is here. Don’t want to spoil it for him. I’ll talk to you in two years about it. LOL.
386 | Sharmuta Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:55:12am |
re: #375 jcm
In a word….
Like seeing him waiting to go into the House for his speech- he had his nose in the air.
387 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:55:34am |
re: #382 Erik The Red
Thank You. Chat all you want. If you see me just give a warning.:)
Well, at least you and I will have something to talk about in two years.
388 | Erik The Red Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:55:59am |
re: #383 Rancher
There is a rule of thumb that a market that has declined 50% will decline another 50%. Look to the Dow to drop to 3500.
I hope your rule of thumb is up your ass///
389 | Dr. Shalit Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:56:22am |
re: #354 Gus 802
When can we start calling him
HalObama 9000?
Gus -
When the Dow goes back over 9000, I will credit President Obama with as much common sense as “HAL.”
-S-
390 | Gus Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:56:33am |
re: #384 opinionated
Anyone see The Daily Show last night?
The first part of the show was an all out attack on CNBC for daring to question our dear omnipotent leader.
Jon Stewart: Democrat Tool Extraordinaire
391 | Chicago Blonde Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:56:36am |
re: #370 Oh no…Sand People!
I will have to do that. I just hate the tone of, “It’s all our fault!” Guilt. Self Loathing. Redistribute wealth to help them feel good. “Maybe if we disarmed EVERYONE would LOVE US AGAIN!”… blah blah blah…
Good deal! I hate that BS too!
OK guys, I really need to leave, Ill see you later Lizards. Thanks for the sanity fix.
392 | Jack Burton Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:57:17am |
re: #242 gonecamping
Jim Cramer was an idiot and a liar way before he was shilling for Obama. At his best he’s a contrarian indicator. I’ve made money in the market several times by doing the exact opposite of what he says. I wonder how many peoples nest eggs have been pissed away listening to that jackasses advice.
On Oct 31 2007 he was screaming “Buy BIDU, buy GOOG, they are going to keep going up” GOOG was 700-ish at the time and that was its all time high and its 303.00 right now.
393 | gmsc Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:57:25am |
re: #340 Gus 802
Maybe you are someone else can start a “Burma Shave” series regarding the antics of El Presidente Obama.
Until we get
rid of this clown
bye-bye jobs
Dow will stay down
Burma-Shave
395 | Gus Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:57:34am |
396 | redc1c4 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:57:38am |
re: #298 MandyManners
Would you explain that for me?
DOD cutbacks would be my guess…..
reminds me of the Clinton years, when every year they would zero out our repair parts accounts to fund training, and then bitch because we had so many vehicles that were NMC, awaiting parts.
397 | jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:57:40am |
re: #391 Chicago Blonde
Good deal! I hate that BS too!
OK guys, I really need to leave, Ill see you later Lizards. Thanks for the sanity fix.
Only a Blonde would come to LFG for a sanity fix!
/// ;-P
Have a good day!
399 | SFGoth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:57:46am |
re: #342 MandyManners
ThatisI am gorgeous.
Fixed. ;-> Now I just need a piece of eye candy on my arm in something like galleryserpentine.com
400 | snowcrash Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:58:07am |
I think the White House Social Secretary is the person to go to based on this wiki job description.
401 | gmsc Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:58:12am |
re: #384 opinionated
Anyone see The Daily Show last night?
The first part of the show was an all out attack on CNBC for daring to question our dear omnipotent leader.
I don’t doubt it. They worship Ear Leader.
402 | Pietr Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:58:13am |
OT-just got back after being crashed since Tuesday. My router FORGOT it’s programming? I’m an old time Maint tech/PC tech, and have never had any eqpmnt shut down because it just forgot….Sheesh. This was software/programming-nothing electrical/mechanical. I finally got thru to Linksys today, and got it fixed-thru some internet backdoor that is apparently hardwired into it? It couldn’t have reached the Internet otherwise, apparently-because it forgot everything else. Lord save us, between computers and BO, we’re doomed-DOOMED I tells ya…….
403 | SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:58:39am |
re: #390 Gus 802
Jon Stewart: Democrat Tool Extraordinaire
If you get most of your news from Comedy Central, you might be an Obama voter.
404 | cartoonboy Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:58:51am |
I’m filling the air in my tires today to do my part in Obama’s plan to save America. I’m also recycling air by breathing into my shirt to help save the planets oxygen supply.
406 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:59:49am |
re: #396 redc1c4
DOD cutbacks would be my guess…..
reminds me of the Clinton years, when every year they would zero out our repair parts accounts to fund training, and then bitch because we had so many vehicles that were NMC, awaiting parts.
I think you’ve made a good guess. The opening salvo seemed to be Obama (press conference yesterday or the day before?) pointing out the hundreds of billions of cost overruns in DoD programs.
While that may be true, I somehow feel it isn’t the overruns themselves, but Obama setting DoD up for some hefty cuts.
408 | OldLineTexan Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:59:58am |
re: #393 gmsc
Until we get
rid of this clown
bye-bye jobs
Dow will stay down
Burma-Shave
When Neo-Marxists
Rule the nest
The job you KEEP
Will be the BEST
/401-Cave
411 | Wendya Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:00:43pm |
413 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:00:51pm |
re: #390 Gus 802
Jon Stewart: Democrat Tool Extraordinaire
I wonder how long The Daily Show can stay on the air without being able to make fun of the President.
414 | Kosh's Shadow Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:00:54pm |
re: #402 Pietr
OT-just got back after being crashed since Tuesday. My router FORGOT it’s programming? I’m an old time Maint tech/PC tech, and have never had any eqpmnt shut down because it just forgot….Sheesh. This was software/programming-nothing electrical/mechanical. I finally got thru to Linksys today, and got it fixed-thru some internet backdoor that is apparently hardwired into it? It couldn’t have reached the Internet otherwise, apparently-because it forgot everything else. Lord save us, between computers and BO, we’re doomed-DOOMED I tells ya…….
Now, since Linksys is owned by Cisco, and a lot of the stuff is made in China, the idea that there is a backdoor in their routers worries me.
415 | Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:00:59pm |
re: #371 doppelganglander
Hi, Sand People! I think you’re friend’s brother needs a tutorial in the responsibilities of the federal government under the Constitution, vs. his bleeding ponytail wish list. I won’t even start on his Christian-bashing. Wouldn’t be Christian of me.
It’s interesting how they want all these ‘social programs’. If they can ‘spread the wealth’ and turn the profits of one person into the fiscal ‘sacrificial lamb’ for the masses, what happens when they decide to share the ‘health’ and turn someone into the ‘sacrificial lamb’?
“Health” as in, “Well, Oh no…Sand People, according to your Dr. records you have never smoked, never drank, and are too much of a beta male to have ever slept around before marriage. We have 5 other people who need your organs, they need them and who are you to deny them their need? 5 is greater than 1 and it is for the greater good.”
/I lived / live / and will continue to live a very sheltered life…
416 | yma o hyd Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:01:04pm |
re: #323 Honorary Yooper
As I’ve said before, if this goes beyond a certain point, you can go right on ahead and welcome the Obamadepression. This will be like the 1930s. There will be no rescue because as bad off as America could be, other places will have it much, much worse. And don’t look to China for help either. We go down, they go down. Europe’s on the brink of breaking their banks, and Japan’s no better off either. I fear it may be a rocky two or three years at the least. I use the term Obamadepression because I want to make him own it a la Hoover and 1929.
Yes - he does own it.
Oh - and there is no use looking to India either. Not only are they having troubled elections in two monthst time (as has germnay, I think) - they are having their hands full with the failed states on their borders, Pakistan and Bangla Desh.
The arab kingdoms will tank as well, a depression means there’s not much use for oil.
Russia - no way. Their income from oil is down, and thats what their expansion and economy is based on.
It’ll be a global domino effect, and a global Obamadepression.
Lovely … not!
417 | scottishbuzzsaw Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:01:33pm |
re: #405 Iron Fist
I was a philosophy major for a while. They say that having a degree in philosophy makes it easier to deal with not getting the job that it costs you…
LOL! When our son got his master’s in Philosophy, my husband and I gave him a t-shirt which read “Will Philosophize for Food.”
418 | joncelli Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:01:45pm |
re: #286 Kenneth
That’s their plan? These guys couldn’t plan their way out of a decrepit outhouse and they think they’re going to precisely manipulate the economy? [starts banging head against desk again]
419 | avanti Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:02:10pm |
re: #349 jorline
I hear the Biden and the union big wigs are living it up in Florida at the AFL-CIO convention. We’re paying for parties everywhere.
Because of the damn right wing leaning media I can’t find a link.
Saw it on Fox, much ado about nothing. I stayed at that hotel on Pioneer electronics dime for a sales meeting and it’s nice, but not a world class resort.They quoted $300 rooms, but a convention rate is a fraction of that. You need a convention hotel for a meeting like that, Super 8 won’t work.
420 | Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:02:11pm |
re: #377 yma o hyd
I’d say he typifies the sort of capitalist of whom we can now say, to paraphrase Lenin and make it more appropriate for our times, that if he were the last infidel, he’d be comfortable to sell the sabre to the jihadist with which he’d be decapitated.
As long as those kids have SCHIP…
/
421 | CyanSnowHawk Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:02:35pm |
422 | Occasional Reader Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:02:42pm |
re: #417 scottishbuzzsaw
LOL! When our son got his master’s in Philosophy, my husband and I gave him a t-shirt which read “Will Philosophize for Food.”
You two obviously have little Kierk-regaard for his feelings.
424 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:03:10pm |
re: #405 Iron Fist
I was a philosophy major for a while. They say that having a degree in philosophy makes it easier to deal with not getting the job that it costs you…
“Joblessness is no longer for Philosophy majors. Useful people are starting to feel the pinch.”
/Kent Brockman
425 | Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:03:21pm |
re: #405 Iron Fist
I was a philosophy major for a while. They say that having a degree in philosophy makes it easier to deal with not getting the job that it costs you…
LoL.
426 | Kosh's Shadow Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:03:33pm |
re: #405 Iron Fist
I was a philosophy major for a while. They say that having a degree in philosophy makes it easier to deal with not getting the job that it costs you…
Last time I met a philosophy major he was brewmaster for Lowell Brewery.
I guess Monty Python had it right
Immanuel Kant was a real pissant
Who was very rarely stable.
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
Who could think you under the table.
David Hume could out-consume
Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, [some versions have ‘Schopenhauer and Hegel’]
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel.
There’s nothing Nietzsche couldn’t teach ya
‘Bout the raising of the wrist.
Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed.
John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.
Plato, they say, could stick it away—
Half a crate of whisky every day.
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle.
Hobbes was fond of his dram,
And René Descartes was a drunken fart.
‘I drink, therefore I am.’
Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed,
A lovely little thinker,
But a bugger when he’s pissed.
427 | ThinkRight Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:03:37pm |
I am gonna make a fortune
Somebody tell me what company makes the government brown shirts and I am gonna buy that stock
/?
428 | Erik The Red Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:03:56pm |
DOW down 270 on news of GM. Let them sink and restructure. Should have been down before we gave them a shit load of money.
429 | Right Brain Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:03:57pm |
Two stories came out today that Pres. Obama is deliberately wrecking the economy, these from places one would not ordinarily expect to see a conspiracy theory, one from Powerline, the other on PM. 2800 point loss on the Dow Jones since he was elected. Pres. Bush saw a huge drop in the Nasdaq shortly after he was elected, but the Nasdaq is made of small flimsy companies that blow in the wind. The Dow Jones is the thirty most widely held companies.
430 | Gus Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:04:03pm |
re: #413 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I wonder how long The Daily Show can stay on the air without being able to make fun of the President.
That would require Obama doing something that the liberals abhor. I doubt that will happen since Obama is the Alpha-Leftist (said so on the box he came in). Until then they’ll always have people like Santelli, the few conservative media figures like Rush and others, the GOP, Bush, etc. There’s never a shortage of liberal straw men and enemies.
431 | DaddyG Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:04:11pm |
re: #340 Gus 802
Maybe you are someone else can start a “Burma Shave” series regarding the antics of El Presidente Obama.
Some thought Zero was the One
That was faulty math
Now the markets come undone
and we will face its wrath.
432 | Perplexed Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:04:27pm |
Looks like genetic experiments to recreate the Dire bear were successful and the recreation managed to both kill and eat, what up to now, was the best stock market bull we’ve ever had.
100 points/day and it looks as if Obama enjoys every minute of putting it to whitey. The bad thing is that while putting it to whitey might look like fun, it hurts blacks and women as well, when the companies either shut down or cut back on employee hours.
433 | bulwrk Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:04:28pm |
re: #419 avanti
They quoted $300 rooms, but a convention rate is a fraction of that. You need a convention hotel for a meeting like that, Super 8 won’t work.
Too hard to get the hookers to show up?
434 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:04:32pm |
re: #422 Occasional Reader
You two obviously have little Kierk-regaard for his feelings.
Picard is way better than Kier…. never mind.
436 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:05:04pm |
re: #423 MandyManners
I have a link to the video in which he said he planned to cut the military budget by 25 per cent. I’ll look for it.
Hi Mandy! That would be great! It seems to go hand-in-hand with his comments about overruns.
437 | SFGoth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:05:05pm |
re: #412 MandyManners
Does it come in 6P?
Dunno what 6P is. Aussie company btw. I have the coat and the shirt in white. They fit very well and since it was mail order, I was leery. Price is good with conversion. World-reknowned company (amongst goths) which I’m happy to support b/c they’re not demanding welfare handouts for being privileged (i.e., alive and whining).
438 | Zimriel Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:05:32pm |
re: #317 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I read the NT once, on my second time now & still haven’t found the part that says that the best way to bring about the Kingdom of God is to hand over all power to a secular state.
Jesus’s teachings about the Basileia of God are much debated.
The Gospel of Thomas made a case, through selective quotations of the sayings tradition and the three Synoptic Gospels, that Jesus saw the Basileia as already here, if believers all agreed to give up worldly possessions and to help one another. The state becomes irrelevant. There was a movement in the 1990s among NT scholars to boost Thomas as “The Fifth Gospel”.
Others say that Jesus saw himself as John the Baptist’s apocalyptic Messiah; in which case, Jesus’s political programme was for the Jews to revolt and install him as King. I’m not sure what he’d have done afterward to KEEP his kingdom, but if Caliph ‘Umar’s later career is a guide, Jesus would have tried to incite a general anti-Roman (and anti-Parthian) uprising among fellow Semites. But I’m veering into supposition here.
“Who do you say that I am” … heh
439 | Ward Cleaver Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:05:57pm |
re: #32 LGoPs
Somebody should design a poster. Have a milk carton with a picture of Pelosi, Reid and Obama and the caption “Missing - my 401K”
My 401(k) is on its way down to being a 001(k).
440 | Occasional Reader Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:06:06pm |
re: #419 avanti
Saw it on Fox, much ado about nothing. I stayed at that hotel on Pioneer electronics dime for a sales meeting and it’s nice, but not a world class resort.They quoted $300 rooms, but a convention rate is a fraction of that. You need a convention hotel for a meeting like that, Super 8 won’t work.
A quick yahoo travel search for next Wed. through Friday show rates ranging from $479 - $1179.
Yes, convention rates are lower, but if you want to actually economize for a convention, YOU DON’T DO IT IN FRICCKIN’ SOUTH BEACH IN MARCH.
441 | Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:06:15pm |
re: #429 Right Brain
Two stories came out today that Pres. Obama is deliberately wrecking the economy, these from places one would not ordinarily expect to see a conspiracy theory, one from Powerline, the other on PM. 2800 point loss on the Dow Jones since he was elected. Pres. Bush saw a huge drop in the Nasdaq shortly after he was elected, but the Nasdaq is made of small flimsy companies that blow in the wind. The Dow Jones is the thirty most widely held companies.
[Link: www.powerlineblog.com…]
[Link: pajamasmedia.com…]
Didn’t Rahm say that they needed to make good use of the ‘crisis’ or never let a good crisis go unexploited or something like that…paraphrased…
442 | Perplexed Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:06:17pm |
re: #404 cartoonboy
I’m filling the air in my tires today to do my part in Obama’s plan to save America. I’m also recycling air by breathing into my shirt to help save the planets oxygen supply.
I’m breaking wind as much as possible, so as to bring on an early spring here in Minnesota.
443 | SFGoth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:06:26pm |
re: #421 CyanSnowHawk
The other other other white meat?
Unicorns are rainbow colored inside, and sparkly with flowers and kitty cats.
444 | doppelganglander Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:06:44pm |
re: #399 SFGoth
Fixed. ;-> Now I just need a piece of eye candy on my arm in something like [Link: www.galleryserpentine.com…]
I love that. When the new Sherlock Holmes movie opens later this year, that would be the perfect attire.
445 | Randall Gross Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:06:57pm |
Yesterday’s down was due to rumors of the Chinese stimulus, today’s down is because the Chinese said “no stimulus”.
446 | gmsc Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:07:12pm |
DJIA
Dec. 5, 1996:
Open: 6,422.94
High: 6,491.14
Low: 6,363.31
Close: 6,437.10
Dec. 5th, 1996 was the date of Greenspan’s famous “irrational exuberance” speech.
So, once the market goes down pass this level, does that meant we can be rationally exuberant again?
447 | aboo-Hoo-Hoo Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:07:19pm |
The ‘One’ thing you can say with some consistency is that the Market, like Obummer, is successfully making new lows damned near everyday.
448 | jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:07:24pm |
re: #411 Wendya
It’s the Chicago way.
True…
What’s the upside to dissing Great Britain?
Who benefits and why?
We push GB away, who do we pull close?
I don’t like the larger implications. This insult was intentional, what’s the game the WH is playing?
449 | redc1c4 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:07:30pm |
re: #422 Occasional Reader
You two obviously have little Kierk-regaard for his feelings.
i Kant argue with that……
450 | Earick Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:07:40pm |
re: #305 Oh no…Sand People!
I proudly consumed much of that ‘military’ money over my lifetime!
I never met a kia a second time in the field and I didn’t give a damn about the money when calling in fast flyers to remove my countries enemies and secure my mens lives or preserve the freedom of the fat assed desk jockeys punching calculators.
Freedom isn’t free! Just ask the boys out at Arlington!
452 | Sharmuta Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:07:50pm |
re: #448 jcm
True…
What’s the upside to dissing Great Britain?
Who benefits and why?
We push GB away, who do we pull close?
I don’t like the larger implications. This insult was intentional, what’s the game the WH is playing?
Putin.
453 | Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:07:50pm |
re: #438 Zimriel
Jesus’s teachings about the Basileia of God are much debated.
The Gospel of Thomas made a case, through selective quotations of the sayings tradition and the three Synoptic Gospels, that Jesus saw the Basileia as already here, if believers all agreed to give up worldly possessions and to help one another. The state becomes irrelevant. There was a movement in the 1990s among NT scholars to boost Thomas as “The Fifth Gospel”.
Others say that Jesus saw himself as John the Baptist’s apocalyptic Messiah; in which case, Jesus’s political programme was for the Jews to revolt and install him as King. I’m not sure what he’d have done afterward to KEEP his kingdom, but if Caliph ‘Umar’s later career is a guide, Jesus would have tried to incite a general anti-Roman (and anti-Parthian) uprising among fellow Semites. But I’m veering into supposition here.
“Who do you say that I am” … heh
You can’t add to or take away from ‘teh WORD’!
/I.D.’er off…sorry…couldn’t resist…
454 | Amer-I-Can Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:08:00pm |
re: #362 MandyManners
Or, to replace the word “fuck” as in “We are truly Obamaed”.
What the heck, it worked for Lewinsky…
455 | DaddyG Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:08:12pm |
456 | Ward Cleaver Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:08:12pm |
re: #348 Zimriel
The Politico just said that Obama IS his TelePrompTer. if it did get unplugged, Obama might just melt down on air and start sucking his thumb.
At least that would be entertaining.
457 | Kosh's Shadow Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:08:13pm |
re: #448 jcm
True…
What’s the upside to dissing Great Britain?
Who benefits and why?
We push GB away, who do we pull close?
I don’t like the larger implications. This insult was intentional, what’s the game the WH is playing?
Well, the B. Hussein keeps trying to talk to Iran and Syria.
458 | SFGoth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:08:31pm |
re: #444 doppelganglander
I love that. When the new Sherlock Holmes movie opens later this year, that would be the perfect attire.
This depression is going to be great for the gothic revival. Not only does it look amazing, but there’s no better foreplay than the slow removal of layers and layers and gadgets and gadgets.
460 | KenJen Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:08:38pm |
re: #427 ThinkRight
I am gonna make a fortune
Somebody tell me what company makes the government brown shirts and I am gonna buy that stock
/?
Ive got a better way to make lots of money. I personally make $30,000 a month sitting at home in my pajamas. Just send me $49.95 and I’ll tell you how you can to. Offer open to all Lizards.
461 | Occasional Reader Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:08:51pm |
I’ve never been clear on whether the correct spelling is “fricckin” or “frickkin”.
462 | jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:09:01pm |
re: #419 avanti
Saw it on Fox, much ado about nothing. I stayed at that hotel on Pioneer electronics dime for a sales meeting and it’s nice, but not a world class resort.They quoted $300 rooms, but a convention rate is a fraction of that. You need a convention hotel for a meeting like that, Super 8 won’t work.
The BIG DEAL is called….
Card Check.
464 | avanti Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:09:38pm |
re: #407 MandyManners
That was my guess, too. Maybe it also shows that FCBBHO plans to cut and run in Afghanistan.
He increased the proposed defense budget by 4%, added 17,000 to troops to Afghanistan, wants to increase the size of the Army, none of that indicates a cut and run in my opinion. He’s gets major flack from the far left for that, but I’d think the right would approve.
465 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:09:47pm |
re: #444 doppelganglander
I love that. When the new Sherlock Holmes movie opens later this year, that would be the perfect attire.
Do they sell men’s capes?
467 | Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:09:58pm |
re: #450 Earick
I proudly consumed much of that ‘military’ money over my lifetime!
I never met a kia a second time in the field and I didn’t give a damn about the money when calling in fast flyers to remove my countries enemies and secure my mens lives or preserve the freedom of the fat assed desk jockeys punching calculators.
Freedom isn’t free! Just ask the boys out at Arlington!
Thank you for your service. If I had but more than just an upding to give. It never ceases to amaze me how many people believe that the threats are not real…
468 | Sheepdogess Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:10:03pm |
re: #113 Erik The Red
I think he knows exactly what he is doing . I wonder what kind of pharmaceuticals he ingests to stay calm.
469 | SFGoth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:10:19pm |
470 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:10:32pm |
re: #461 Occasional Reader
I’ve never been clear on whether the correct spelling is “fricckin” or “frickkin”.
Frickin’ - one “k”
471 | Erik The Red Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:10:38pm |
re: #453 Oh no…Sand People!
Thanks for your reply on FB Oh no…
473 | Onslow Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:10:47pm |
Florida tops nation for delinquent mortgages
Florida leads the nation in the number of homes delinquent or in foreclosure according to a fourth quarter survey by the Mortgage Bankers Association.
The survey found that 20.1 percent of mortgages on Florida homes were delinquent or held in foreclosure. Nationwide, more than 11 percent of American homeowners are either delinquent or in foreclosure. (Emphasis mine.)
474 | Ward Cleaver Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:10:54pm |
re: #468 Sheepdogess
I think he knows exactly what he is doing . I wonder what kind of pharmaceuticals he ingests to stay calm.
Ritalin?
475 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:11:17pm |
re: #459 MandyManners
This is not the right video but, it shows he plans to fuck it all up.
[Video]
OMG! I’d heard snippets here and there, but that 51 seconds is devastating! Thanks so much for posting that link.
476 | fish Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:11:26pm |
re: #320 Iron Fist
Wow. That sucks. Was this something that was planned? I mean, I expected hostility to the military from the Obama Administration and the Democrat Legislature, but I wouldn’t have believed it would be that fast or that complete.
A friend of mine has been working on the DOD FY 10 Budget. He was forced to sign a non disclosure agreement. (That is on top of his current security clearance which I understand is quite high) In spite of the agreement, he informed me that it would be unveiled on Friday, and that in his words “Is pretty Bloody”. It is my suspicion that the cuts will be much deeper than Clinton’s
478 | Kragar Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:11:45pm |
Well, back from the doctor and I’ve been prescribed Lunesta for sleep and Ativan for stress. Anyone got any experience with them?
479 | doppelganglander Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:11:47pm |
re: #469 SFGoth
What does that translate to in U.S. sizes?
That is a U.S. size. Mandy is a tiny person, apparently.
480 | gmsc Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:11:59pm |
re: #362 MandyManners
Or, to replace the word “fuck” as in “We are truly Obamaed”.
I think “Barack” would replace “fuck” more effectively.
Example usage: “Barack you!” or “We’re truly Baracked.”
481 | Perplexed Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:12:02pm |
483 | Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:12:06pm |
re: #459 MandyManners
This is not the right video but, it shows he plans to fuck it all up.
Or to sum up: Holds up sign, “Dear World, please kick our a$$es. Thank you.”
484 | Occasional Reader Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:12:09pm |
486 | Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:12:29pm |
re: #471 Erik The Red
Thanks for your reply on FB Oh no…
No problemo. Mafia wars is giving me some buggy issues…
487 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:12:52pm |
re: #468 Sheepdogess
I think he knows exactly what he is doing . I wonder what kind of pharmaceuticals he ingests to stay calm.
Since we’re seeing a replay of the 1970s, they’ll probably have to start inventing new drugs for us all like they did back then.
490 | Erik The Red Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:13:22pm |
re: #478 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Well, back from the doctor and I’ve been prescribed Lunesta for sleep and Ativan for stress. Anyone got any experience with them?
No. But Johnny Black works for both aliments on me. :)
491 | Perplexed Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:13:31pm |
re: #480 gmsc
I think “Barack” would replace “fuck” more effectively.
Example usage: “Barack you!” or “We’re truly Baracked.”
Making rude gesture to another driver and yelling “you barakin’ o hole.”
492 | CyanSnowHawk Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:13:36pm |
re: #376 MikeAlv77
The EIC for a single person tops out at about $7200.. he wouldn’t get it
( I volunteer doing tax returns for low income people - VITA Program )
Walter needs a rental property to sit empty for more than half the year, like what happened to me in ‘07. I made a pretty good income that year and paid less income tax than he did this year after deducting my losses.
/I don’t recommend doing that though.
494 | doppelganglander Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:13:50pm |
re: #486 Oh no…Sand People!
No problemo. Mafia wars is giving me some buggy issues…
It’s like that more often than not. The worst seems to be around 4:45-5:00 p.m. Eastern, when everyone is screwing around to kill time at the end of the day.
495 | Occasional Reader Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:13:52pm |
re: #482 MandyManners
I’m in the U.S., and I wear a 6P. I don’t know how it converts to another country’s sizes, though.
In Argentina, it’s “Extra Fat Gringa Size”.
KIDDING!
496 | Bloodnok Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:13:56pm |
497 | avanti Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:13:59pm |
re: #433 bulwrk
They quoted $300 rooms, but a convention rate is a fraction of that. You need a convention hotel for a meeting like that, Super 8 won’t work.
Too hard to get the hookers to show up?
No big banquet rooms, or catered diners. As a ex business owner, I’ve been wined and dined enough at conventions to know the drill. Never got the hookers though, but lots of drunk secretaries floating around.
498 | Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:14:09pm |
499 | Occasional Reader Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:14:11pm |
500 | redc1c4 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:14:13pm |
re: #478 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Well, back from the doctor and I’ve been prescribed Lunesta for sleep and Ativan for stress. Anyone got any experience with them?
the Lunesta might give you weird dreams…..
/real weird
501 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:14:15pm |
502 | Erik The Red Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:14:19pm |
re: #486 Oh no…Sand People!
No problemo. Mafia wars is giving me some buggy issues…
I am new to it today. No help. :(
507 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:15:05pm |
re: #462 jcm
The BIG DEAL is called….
Card Check.
Well, JCM, you’re clearly not on board yet. The proper title of the proposal is “The Employee Free Choice Act.” Please adjust your thinking accordingly, or I’ll be forced to call the union.
(Okay, I don’t belong to a union, but you get my point.)
:-)
509 | Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:15:19pm |
re: #494 doppelganglander
It’s like that more often than not. The worst seems to be around 4:45-5:00 p.m. Eastern, when everyone is screwing around to kill time at the end of the day.
I still am not getting some dire ‘loot’ that I need to complete some missions…
Errrrr… Just drop the tactical shotgun already…sheesh…
512 | debutaunt Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:15:47pm |
re: #336 gmsc
As I write this, the market is at 6,629.96, a level last seen on Jan. 10, 1997.
Back then, Yassir Arafat was still alive, and Bill Clinton was getting ready to be sworn in as president for his second term.
Here in Las Vegas, the Hacienda had just been imploded, and construction was beginning on the same lot to build the Mandalay Bay. The Sands had also been imploded so that construction could begin on the Venetian.
People were still talking about JonBenét Ramsey, who had just been killed in her parents’ basement on the day after Christmas ‘96.
In business, two of the most common topics were Apple’s purchase of NeXT, and Alan Greenspan’s speech from just over a month before in which he claimed the market unduly escalated asset values due to “irrational exuberance”.
And now we have “irrational crankiness”?
513 | Wendya Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:15:56pm |
re: #448 jcm
True…
What’s the upside to dissing Great Britain?
Who benefits and why?
We push GB away, who do we pull close?
I don’t like the larger implications. This insult was intentional, what’s the game the WH is playing?
He was probably just putting Brown in “his place” which for obama means at his feet. I fully expect him to deal with every foreign leader he meets like a two bit thug.
514 | lobo91 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:15:59pm |
re: #410 MarineMomSue
Do you demobilize in May, Lobo?
Don’t know. My orders end 30 may, as of right now. The way things are going, I may not find out until a week before they end.
Makes planning for the future interesting…
515 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:16:09pm |
re: #510 MandyManners
I must be insane.
No, you just have a healthy sex drive & want everyone to know about it.
/
516 | Occasional Reader Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:16:11pm |
re: #497 avanti
No big banquet rooms
If the hotel doesn’t have any rooms large enough to hold a banquet in, then why are they having the convention there in the first place?
517 | Zimriel Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:16:17pm |
re: #429 Right Brain
Two stories came out today that Pres. Obama is deliberately wrecking the economy, …
[Link: www.powerlineblog.com…]
[Link: pajamasmedia.com…]
Powerline doesn’t endorse the theory but they did air it.
Here’s my problem with the theory: if Obama is deliberately tanking the economy, that makes him a traitor; and if for partisan reasons the Congress won’t impeach him, that makes them traitors too. That takes us down a dark road, in which international financiers and/or our own military intervene for their own interests.
And if that happens, then the average O voter feels like their vote didn’t count (rightly), and they turn to even MORE extreme versions of their (Leftist) political religion.
Here’s your Republic; would you like bananas with that?
518 | MrSilverDragon Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:16:19pm |
re: #405 Iron Fist
I was a philosophy major for a while. They say that having a degree in philosophy makes it easier to deal with not getting the job that it costs you…
I’m reminded of a joke I heard years back…
What did the philosophy major say to the physics major?
“Do you want fries with that?”
I kid. :)
520 | aboo-Hoo-Hoo Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:16:32pm |
521 | Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:16:41pm |
re: #476 fish
A friend of mine has been working on the DOD FY 10 Budget. He was forced to sign a non disclosure agreement. (That is on top of his current security clearance which I understand is quite high) In spite of the agreement, he informed me that it would be unveiled on Friday, and that in his words “Is pretty Bloody”. It is my suspicion that the cuts will be much deeper than Clinton’s
Why do I feel those words are ‘prophetic’ and can be interpreted in the ‘literal’ sense in the near future?
522 | Erik The Red Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:16:45pm |
523 | DaddyG Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:16:49pm |
re: #451 Iron Fist
The better class of hookers will never work at a Super 8. You need to think more upscale. Like a Howard Johnson’s…
That brings new meaning to “fried clam strips” on the HoJos menu.
524 | Occasional Reader Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:17:25pm |
re: #510 MandyManners
I must be insane.
No, you just need spiritual peace. Perhaps some sort of Christian volunteer work abroad would help. You know… a missionary position.
/hey, you started it
527 | jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:17:51pm |
re: #476 fish
A friend of mine has been working on the DOD FY 10 Budget. He was forced to sign a non disclosure agreement. (That is on top of his current security clearance which I understand is quite high) In spite of the agreement, he informed me that it would be unveiled on Friday, and that in his words “Is pretty Bloody”. It is my suspicion that the cuts will be much deeper than Clinton’s
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He’s gonna’ get a bunch killed.
Obama is gonna’ make Rabbit Bait look good.
528 | Earick Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:18:01pm |
re: #478 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I was prescribed both!
Fucked up my life! Dropped that shit, got a medical marijuana certificate and have never had a problem again.
I keep the vaporizor(sp) by the bed and sleep like a baby!
532 | SFGoth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:18:23pm |
re: #465 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Do they sell men’s capes?
There’s this: galleryserpentine.com
I should get some kind of commission! You might try shrinestore.com out of L.A. actually. I have some shirt of theirs. Lizards, best damn dressed bloggers on the planet.
533 | Sunlight Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:18:31pm |
re: #461 Occasional Reader
I’ve never been clear on whether the correct spelling is “fricckin” or “frickkin”.
“frakkin”
534 | Perplexed Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:18:42pm |
re: #529 Iron Fist
Sanity is overrated. Or so I hear. I certainly wouldn’t know. I avoid sanity the way a Democrat avoids tax cuts…
Democrats get their tax breaks by not paying taxes.
535 | Kosh's Shadow Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:18:47pm |
re: #478 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Well, back from the doctor and I’ve been prescribed Lunesta for sleep and Ativan for stress. Anyone got any experience with them?
No, but I find going to bed at 2AM and getting up at 6:30 AM quickly results in no problem falling asleep.
536 | avanti Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:18:53pm |
re: #476 fish
A friend of mine has been working on the DOD FY 10 Budget. He was forced to sign a non disclosure agreement. (That is on top of his current security clearance which I understand is quite high) In spite of the agreement, he informed me that it would be unveiled on Friday, and that in his words “Is pretty Bloody”. It is my suspicion that the cuts will be much deeper than Clinton’s
537 | Miss Molly Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:19:15pm |
Why is everyone so suprised at the Obama’s treatment of the Browns. The Obama’s have not much a clue as to what they are doing and are so arrogant that they don’t care. This is just the beginning. Obama can’t talk without a teleprompter and that letter he wrote to the Russians on trading missel defenses for help with Iran probably still has the Russian partying on. This guy is not qualified to be President as many people have known and others are now learning.
538 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:19:27pm |
re: #528 Earick
I was prescribed both!
Fucked up my life! Dropped that shit, got a medical marijuana certificate and have never had a problem again.
I keep the vaporizor(sp) by the bed and sleep like a baby!
How do you get a prescription for marijuana filled? Seriously, do they give you pot in one of those little orange bottles, do you have to buy your own papers/bong?
539 | SFGoth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:19:30pm |
re: #347 doppelganglander
You need to post a picture.
Yeah, but that might reveal who Zombie is! ;->
540 | Zimriel Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:19:47pm |
re: #527 jcm
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Yeah, I had to be extra careful how I worded #517 …
542 | doppelganglander Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:20:03pm |
re: #509 Oh no…Sand People!
I still am not getting some dire ‘loot’ that I need to complete some missions…
Errrrr… Just drop the tactical shotgun already…sheesh…
It’s outlandish. I waste all my points trying to get more untraceable cell phones. Oh, and they’re disposable, so I need like 20 to finish a job. I wish there was a way to share your loot with players in your mafia. I’ve got 15 tactical shotguns and I’d be happy to share.
543 | Kragar Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:20:08pm |
544 | Bloodnok Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:20:10pm |
545 | avanti Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:20:12pm |
re: #516 Occasional Reader
If the hotel doesn’t have any rooms large enough to hold a banquet in, then why are they having the convention there in the first place?
No banquet rooms at Super 8.
546 | Jack Burton Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:20:16pm |
re: #531 FrogMarch
Unless you are talking about the 2nd Continental Congress, ethical and congress do not belong in the same sentence.
547 | Occasional Reader Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:21:15pm |
re: #497 avanti
No big banquet rooms, or catered diners [sic].
Someone forget to tell them (the hotel) that. From their website (linked to above):
CATERING AND MENUS
From elegant ballrooms, to an abundance of tropically landscaped outdoor function areas, you will find the perfect location for your catered event at Fontainebleau Miami Beach. Under the culinary direction of Executive Chef Sean O’Connell, Fontainebleau has created a catering experience that combines the expertise of internationally acclaimed chef’s with the vision and creative input of a team of catering professionals that will co-create with you, our guest; extraordinary experiences.
The $1 billion rebirth of Fontainebleau magnificently introduces restored Lapidus’ signature details, such as bow-tie design motifs, circular ceilings and columns while introducing new 21st century glamour. With 107,000 square feet of indoor function space, Fontainebleau Miami Beach caters to special events of every scale and type, from intimate family gatherings to large scale social events
“Debout, les damnés de la terre!
Debout, les forçats de la faim…”
548 | nyc redneck Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:21:16pm |
O is somewhere lighting up a cig, smiling and thinking abt. how much he has been able to do to “remake” our country, and how quickly.
549 | Earick Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:21:34pm |
re: #538 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I grow my own… Don’t use papers and this vaporizor thingy doesn’t even give off smoke!?!
550 | Bloodnok Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:21:49pm |
re: #544 Bloodnok
I hear they serve the best Western omelet there.
Then again the eggs are green at the Susse Chalet.
551 | Kragar Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:21:53pm |
re: #528 Earick
I was prescribed both!
Fucked up my life! Dropped that shit, got a medical marijuana certificate and have never had a problem again.
I keep the vaporizor(sp) by the bed and sleep like a baby!
Government Secret Clearance, DON job, and Medical Mary Jane dont mix.
552 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:21:59pm |
re: #532 SFGoth
There’s this: [Link: www.galleryserpentine.com…]
I should get some kind of commission! You might try [Link: www.shrinestore.com…] out of L.A. actually. I have some shirt of theirs. Lizards, best damn dressed bloggers on the planet.
That’s too goth for me - no offense. I’m looking for more of a nerdcore Batman/Boba Fett kind of cape.
553 | SFGoth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:22:00pm |
re: #482 MandyManners
I’m in the U.S., and I wear a 6P. I don’t know how it converts to another country’s sizes, though.
What’s dif betw 6 & 6P?
554 | Russkilitlover Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:22:05pm |
re: #400 snowcrash
I think the White House Social Secretary is the person to go to based on this wiki job description.
So, basically, it’s another unqualified crony appointee by Obama. Ok. Now it makes perfect sense.
555 | jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:22:13pm |
re: #507 subsailor68
Well, JCM, you’re clearly not on board yet. The proper title of the proposal is “The Employee Free Choice Act.” Please adjust your thinking accordingly, or I’ll be forced to call the union.
(Okay, I don’t belong to a union, but you get my point.)
:-)
Be through the Teamsters trying to unionize a place I worked.
I few of us were vocal opponents. When one of them had their tires slashed I went and got in the face of one the organizers. He was a good 8 inches taller and 100 lbs heavier. I made it clear that shit would stop. We and a nice quite debate after that, Teamsters lost the vote.
557 | Kosh's Shadow Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:22:17pm |
re: #518 MrSilverDragon
My college roommate was a math major and philosophy minor.
He used to say that all you need to do math is a blackboard, chalk, and an eraser.
To do philosophy, you don’t need the eraser.
558 | Honorary Yooper Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:23:00pm |
559 | CyanSnowHawk Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:23:16pm |
560 | lobo91 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:23:20pm |
561 | DaddyG Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:23:32pm |
re: #496 Bloodnok
(leave it alone……)
I dunno. After the claim that she still fits in the cheerleading uniform she wore when she was 14, and now this… What’s a red blooded American male supposed to…excuse me.
…what’s that?
…Yes dear.
…Sorry, as I was saying - Yes we’d better leave that alone.
563 | SFGoth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:23:59pm |
Right before my 2L law school contracts exam, *someone* wrote on the board: “Crying won’t help you, praying won’t do you no good.” :->
564 | yma o hyd Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:24:19pm |
re: #468 Sheepdogess
I think he knows exactly what he is doing . I wonder what kind of pharmaceuticals he ingests to stay calm.
Marlboro …
565 | WriterMom Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:24:37pm |
Anyone want a totally politically incorrect laugh?
If so, click here.
566 | nyc redneck Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:24:37pm |
his off hand , inept way of addressing the stock market plunge, really shows the detachment of a psychopath.
568 | Zimriel Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:25:06pm |
re: #557 Kosh’s Shadow
My college roommate was a math major and philosophy minor.
He used to say that all you need to do math is a blackboard, chalk, and an eraser.
To do philosophy, you don’t need the eraser.
Ah! A bullshit artist! Did you bullshit last week?
/mel brooks
569 | jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:25:18pm |
re: #517 Zimriel
Powerline doesn’t endorse the theory but they did air it.
Here’s my problem with the theory: if Obama is deliberately tanking the economy, that makes him a traitor; and if for partisan reasons the Congress won’t impeach him, that makes them traitors too. That takes us down a dark road, in which international financiers and/or our own military intervene for their own interests.
And if that happens, then the average O voter feels like their vote didn’t count (rightly), and they turn to even MORE extreme versions of their (Leftist) political religion.
Here’s your Republic; would you like bananas with that?
My outline of why I think it’s deliberate.
570 | Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:25:20pm |
re: #532 SFGoth
There’s this: [Link: www.galleryserpentine.com…]
I should get some kind of commission! You might try [Link: www.shrinestore.com…] out of L.A. actually. I have some shirt of theirs. Lizards, best damn dressed bloggers on the planet.
I am putting the zipper skirt on order for the Mrs…
572 | WriterMom Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:25:36pm |
re: #548 nyc redneck
He’ll try very, very hard to fuck up America-but he won’t succeed.
573 | MrSilverDragon Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:25:39pm |
re: #558 Honorary Yooper
Hey, it beats the hell out of celibacy.
Don’t knock it ‘til you try it… wait a minute…
574 | gmsc Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:25:49pm |
re: #560 lobo91
Not to quibble with you, but that’s a press release, not a budget.
Under the 0bama administration, what would be the difference between a defense budget and a press release?
/The press release takes longer to read
575 | avanti Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:25:59pm |
re: #560 lobo91
Not to quibble with you, but that’s a press release, not a budget.
But it shows a 4% increase in Defense in a bad economy, I thought that would please the right since they were predicting a cut.
577 | yma o hyd Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:26:27pm |
re: #482 MandyManners
I’m in the U.S., and I wear a 6P. I don’t know how it converts to another country’s sizes, though.
Thats a size 8 here - not quite in Posh* territory, but getting there!
(Posh = Victoria Beckham)
578 | scottishbuzzsaw Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:26:32pm |
re: #565 WriterMom
Anyone want a totally politically incorrect laugh?
If so, click here.
“I would bang him like a dinner bell at the Ponderosa?!?” LOL!
580 | formercorpsman Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:26:57pm |
re: #485 MandyManners
Yell it from the rooftop you dirty girl.
583 | gmsc Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:27:34pm |
re: #576 Sharmuta
Yikes! Little strobe light warning for those of us who are photosensitive next time?
584 | SummerSong Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:27:44pm |
re: #553 SFGoth
What’s dif betw 6 & 6P?
Petite is slightly smaller than regular size, so the difference is length….sleeves, hems, arm holes might be higher, etc.
585 | Occasional Reader Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:28:38pm |
re: #563 SFGoth
Right before my 2L law school contracts exam, *someone* wrote on the board: “Crying won’t help you, praying won’t do you no good.” :->
My favorite law school exam apocryphal story:
A huge 1L core class with two hundred or so students, at a large law school, taking their final exam. The professor finally calls “time”, the students file up to the front to deposit their exam “blue books” on his desk. Except for one student, who just keeps working away at his. “Time!”, the professor calls again… the student keeps working. Several more minutes pass, the student walks up to drop off his blue book. “Young man, you can forget it,” the professor says. “Time was called several minutes ago. You disregarded it. You fail the exam.”
The student haughtily regards the prof. “You’re making a big mistake. Don’t you know who I am? DON’T YOU KNOW WHO I AM?”
“No, as a matter of fact, I don’t”, the prof replies.
“Good!” says the student, as he sticks his blue book somewhere deep in the pile of exams, and runs from the room.
587 | Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:28:50pm |
Hopin thread!
*Paddles deflating inner tube upthread*
588 | WriterMom Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:29:00pm |
re: #579 ploome hineni
Kragar, I agree wtih ploomie-have you tried exercise, and abstaining from alcohol, caffeine and heavy snacky foods before bed, also the things like no tv watching in bed, or computer? Have you tried non-drug interventions?
589 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:29:29pm |
re: #536 avanti
Respectfully, your link goes to a trade association article on the “proposed” budget. I think I’ll wait until the budget makes its way through the process to make a decision.
I will note, however, that your linked article indicates the proposed budget is an increase of 4 percent over 2009. In this DoD link, it’s noted that President Bush’s budget was a 7.5 increase over the 2008 budget for DoD.
Heck, if I were a Democrat, I’d use their very argument: “The budget for our department last year had risen 7.5 percent over the year before. This year it’s only 4 percent. What is that, if not a cut?”
Good thing I’m not a Democrat.
590 | lobo91 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:29:44pm |
re: #575 avanti
But it shows a 4% increase in Defense in a bad economy, I thought that would please the right since they were predicting a cut.
Actually, that’s a press release about a budget request.
Here’s a hint: Congress writes the actual budget. Until that’s done, which probably won’t be until sometime around Thanksgiving, given their track record on passing bills on time, we have no idea what’s actually going to happen next FY.
591 | Wendya Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:31:15pm |
re: #400 snowcrash
I think the White House Social Secretary is the person to go to based on this wiki job description.
This is the office that advises obama on state visits:
592 | DaddyG Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:31:50pm |
re: #542 doppelganglander
It’s outlandish. I waste all my points trying to get more untraceable cell phones. Oh, and they’re disposable, so I need like 20 to finish a job. I wish there was a way to share your loot with players in your mafia. I’ve got 15 tactical shotguns and I’d be happy to share.
Expect a call from the BATF asking about that last post.
593 | SFGoth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:31:52pm |
re: #562 MandyManners
Height.
Ahhh, ok. We’ll I’m a 38R coat and I’m trying to get down to a 31” waist size (from 33) Being 5’8, I only like taller girls if they’re having their way with me.
594 | WriterMom Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:31:59pm |
re: #585 Occasional Reader
My brother’s friend actually had this happen in an exam, it was a university math exam and IIRC they were engineering students…all of the sudden in a big exam hall they heard someone running around, and this guy literally jumps up on one of the desks, puts his hands in this kind of ‘King Tut’ shape and starts shouting I AM AN INTEGRAL I AM AN INTEGRAL…they actually did have to call an ambulance and sedate him poor thing-he cracked.
595 | Earick Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:32:18pm |
re: #551 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Well, that kind of life leads to the need for medication!
I no longer work for the government. Don’t need a clearance and refused to come back when they asked me.
Now I am a happy, contented beekeeper. Kick’en back and watching the honey flow.
My grandparents traded honey for food and fuel during the last major government failure. I hope it works for me as well.
597 | doppelganglander Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:32:59pm |
re: #539 SFGoth
Yeah, but that might reveal who Zombie is! ;->
Obfuscation and misdirection, I like it!
598 | nyc redneck Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:33:07pm |
re: #572 WriterMom
He’ll try very, very hard to fuck up America-but he won’t succeed.
i agree. his behavior is getting so erratic.
he characterized the plunging stock mkt. as ‘fits and starts’.
people who have seen a steady decline in their retirement funds since he
took office are certainly beginning to see he’s in over his pay grade.
he’s going to crash.
we won’t.
599 | WriterMom Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:33:35pm |
600 | redc1c4 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:33:50pm |
re: #586 jcm
Which is it?
-10%
or
+4%Obama’s history tells us which.
that and he’s loading all the Iraq and Afghanistan funding into the regular defense budget, instead of as one time expenses that they really are. the numbers go up, but the reality is spending on things like aircraft, vehicles, ships, guns and ammo goes down.
Ear Leader is a lying scumbag, and only fools, or fellow liars, support him.
603 | SFGoth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:34:35pm |
re: #585 Occasional Reader
All I did at the end of my first exam was shotgun a Bud at the top of the lecture hall.
604 | fish Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:36:57pm |
re: #348 Zimriel
The Politico just said that Obama IS his TelePrompTer. if it did get unplugged, Obama might just melt
down on air and start sucking his thumb.like the Witch of the West in OZ
/Wishful thinking
605 | Killer Tomato Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:37:06pm |
re: #458 SFGoth
This depression is going to be great for the gothic revival. Not only does it look amazing, but there’s no better foreplay than the slow removal of layers and layers and gadgets and gadgets.
Great! I’ve got a huge wardrobe of 1860’s clothing. Lots of layers and gadgets. At least now I know there’s a market for it.
608 | Bloodnok Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:38:51pm |
609 | SFGoth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:39:48pm |
re: #602 MandyManners
You’re no fun.
After being worked over by a 6’-er in a corset and thigh-high boots, I’m very fun. I also like these: Youtube Video and Youtube Video What kind of fun are *you* looking for?
610 | avanti Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:40:01pm |
re: #589 subsailor68
Respectfully, your link goes to a trade association article on the “proposed” budget. I think I’ll wait until the budget makes its way through the process to make a decision.
I will note, however, that your linked article indicates the proposed budget is an increase of 4 percent over 2009. In this DoD link, it’s noted that President Bush’s budget was a 7.5 increase over the 2008 budget for DoD.
Heck, if I were a Democrat, I’d use their very argument: “The budget for our department last year had risen 7.5 percent over the year before. This year it’s only 4 percent. What is that, if not a cut?”
Good thing I’m not a Democrat.
I love the way the politicians spin things. First you predict a 10% cut, then when It’s a 4% increase, you claim that’s a cut from a previous increase ?. Increasing the defense budget when the economy is in the tank and while drawing down from Iraq, seems reasonable. Gates was expecting a cut with the Iraq draw down, so I see why the far left is pissed, though I don’t agree .
611 | debutaunt Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:40:18pm |
612 | fish Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:40:57pm |
re: #504 Iron Fist
Shit. That’s really the only thing that I’d better say about this. Shit.
That was my reaction as well.
613 | Unakite Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:41:19pm |
re: #159 J Doc
You don’t see anything wrong with getting sprayed in the face with pepper spray because you question an officer’s lack of civility? I have learned to question authority, not be complacent to it.
I’ve learned to question authority. But I’ve also learned to pick my battles.
614 | n2stox Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:41:46pm |
It’s a good thing Obama doesn’t pay attention to these gyrations.
Of course, “gyration” implies more than one direction.
Obama the destroyer.
615 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:42:15pm |
re: #610 avanti
I love the way the politicians spin things. First you predict a 10% cut, then when It’s a 4% increase, you claim that’s a cut from a previous increase ?. Increasing the defense budget when the economy is in the tank and while drawing down from Iraq, seems reasonable. Gates was expecting a cut with the Iraq draw down, so I see why the far left is pissed, though I don’t agree .
Yep, we’re on the same page there. (My post was sarcasm pointed at that very premise, not at you.) However, as I mentioned, I do want to see what happens as this thing moves through the pipeline.
;-)
617 | Ward Cleaver Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:43:56pm |
619 | lobo91 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:45:29pm |
re: #600 redc1c4
that and he’s loading all the Iraq and Afghanistan funding into the regular defense budget, instead of as one time expenses that they really are. the numbers go up, but the reality is spending on things like aircraft, vehicles, ships, guns and ammo goes down.
Ear Leader is a lying scumbag, and only fools, or fellow liars, support him.
Actually, funding for the war isn’t part of the $557 billion figure. It’s included as a separate line item. Here’s a page that breaks it down better.
620 | Empire1 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:46:05pm |
re: #104 Walter L. Newton
Someone explain something to me. I keep hearing that a large part of the population doesn’t even pay income tax. And who the hell may that be? I have an adjusted income of 9050.00 and my tax is still 960.00. And the tax table has tax amounts going down to almost no salary. So, I don’t understand, it seems to me that everyone pays income tax if they had some sort of income.
Well, let’s see. We have an AGI of 12,446 (doesn’t count untaxed SS). Married filing jointly standard deduction is 10,900; 2 personal deductions is 7,000. So taxable income is zero.
621 | avanti Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:46:31pm |
re: #615 subsailor68
Yep, we’re on the same page there. (My post was sarcasm pointed at that very premise, not at you.) However, as I mentioned, I do want to see what happens as this thing moves through the pipeline.
;-)
Yep, it’s a proposed budget, it could go up or down. They almost always bump up the military pay for the proposed budget to earn points for example. I expect big cuts in the expensive cold war weapons systems, i.e. the Raptor and some way over budget ship building.
622 | SFGoth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:46:43pm |
re: #538 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
How do you get a prescription for marijuana filled? Seriously, do they give you pot in one of those little orange bottles, do you have to buy your own papers/bong?
You can’t get a prescription for MJ. That is illegal. However, dox can *recommend* it. You then go to a “club” that looks like it belongs in Amsterdam. It’s amazing. You can get MJ in many, many varieties.
623 | Silvergirl Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:47:08pm |
re: #56 Noam Chumpski
It’s laughable that Team Obama® thinks that the DOW has nothing to do with the economy. Tragic, but laughable.
Personally, I’m keeping cardboard boxes so that I can combine them and have the biggest one on the block when we are all living out of them.
You can call it an Obamaminium. They called them Hoovervilles—the little hut villages they built out of anything they could gather up in the Great Depression. If they named them after the guy they held responsible for ruining the economy, we’ll have to do the same.
624 | SFGoth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:48:04pm |
re: #570 Oh no…Sand People!
I am putting the zipper skirt on order for the Mrs…
Get her a satin, fully-boned corset too (I recommend Dark Garden). You’ll both enjoy it.
625 | leww37334 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:51:08pm |
Maybe NBC ought to run their Obama favorable ratings over on Wall Street, rather than simply polling the NBC staff (like they do now).
626 | MrSoCal Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:51:16pm |
If anyone’s counting, today’s low (6,546.25 ) is the lowest level since 4/16/1997 (6506.08).
627 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:52:30pm |
re: #621 avanti
Yep, it’s a proposed budget, it could go up or down. They almost always bump up the military pay for the proposed budget to earn points for example. I expect big cuts in the expensive cold war weapons systems, i.e. the Raptor and some way over budget ship building.
Well, from your lips to God’s ear on the military pay! And, even though we’re both Navy, when they launched the San Antonio and even the ice cream maker didn’t work……….
Yeah, there are some things to look at legitmately.
628 | HoosierHoops Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:53:33pm |
629 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:55:15pm |
re: #616 MandyManners
The funniest six minutes of the week. No, the month. THANKS!
OMG! At least the month! That whole segment was laugh out loud.
Thanks!
631 | powerplay Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:13:14pm |
I hate to say this, but the American people deserve this.
It’s no different than the sucker who buys a lemon from a smooth talking used car salesman, …..you know better but you allow yourself to believe what you’re told….and you can only blame the salesman so much….because deep down you’re the jackass that fell for it…
how is it different for America? There are too many clods who bought the Obama hype…and now we’re stuck this dolt …and the markets will continue to gyrate all the way to bottom
632 | Rancher Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:16:56pm |
re: #388 Erik The Red
I hope your rule of thumb is up your ass///
Ouch, don’t shoot the messenger. Look at it as a buying opportunity you won’t see again in our lifetime.
633 | Right Brain Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:23:48pm |
re: #517 Zimriel
Yeah an ugly scenario. He is so detached, as if he really doesn’t care that it falls apart, his vision is extreme left wealth redistribution.
Doesn’t work, people who have money will not do any projects if the taxes are too high. I mean why get up in the morning and take your money out of your bank account to do something if its going to be taxed away? Why keep it in an American bank if the interest taxes are too high. Why buy an American bond if the taxes on the profits are too high.
This is what professional public servants don’t understand: WHERE the money comes from. Guess what, rich people have shoes, and they walk away.
634 | Right Brain Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:27:51pm |
re: #632 Rancher
Nobody knows the bottom, there are no rules here. Boomers are retiring they HAVE to take their money out of the market, they don’t have five to ten years to wait for a recovery. Personally I think we half way there, real estate and stocks.
635 | Indypendent Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:35:16pm |
When O-Bummer gets finished with his goal of reducing the economy of the USA to ashes…doesn’t he realize there will be nothing to redistribute to all his peeps?
Is O’s vision…”Lord, over nothing!”?
636 | silypuddy Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:46:51pm |
Forget yo-yo..
I’m thinking slinky working it’s way down the stairs…
637 | Zimriel Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:10:44pm |
re: #253 lawhawk
The markets have a herd mentality, and right now they’re running scared. The bears don’t even know where a bottom is. There are no real safe havens in the market - sectors that are relatively safe compared with the rest of the market because the situation is so badly deteriorated and because the Administration’s policies are anti-business on a fundamental level.
We aren’t going to see the Administration propose corp tax cuts across the board, and they’ll dabble on the margins claiming that they’re cutting corp taxes, but the reality is that they’re busy proposing even more taxes - including carbon emission taxes that will stifle what little manufacturing is left in the country, the costs of which will be borne by all.
This administration’s reaction to events, so far, has been to attack its enemies: Rush Limbaugh, of course, but also the oil and gas industries. Here’s Geithner today, on the important issue today (carbon dioxide!).
638 | abu_garcia Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:18:54pm |
The bottom is somewhere between 4,000 and 5,000 on the DOW.
Google Didier Sornette, look at the charts of his predictions, compare them to a chart of the DOW, Spoos, or NYSE.
As for what happens after that? “You can’t stand the truth!”
“A system under stress will react in a direction to relieve the stress.” - Le Chatlier.
639 | MJBrutus Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:42:12pm |
re: #20 jcm
Pay no attention to the day to day gyrations of a tracking poll.
It distracts you from paying attention to
MERush Limbaugh!/The One.
Fixed it.
640 | SixDegrees Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:56:32pm |
re: #637 Zimriel
This administration’s reaction to events, so far, has been to attack its enemies: Rush Limbaugh, of course, but also the oil and gas industries. Here’s Geithner today, on the important issue today (carbon dioxide!).
They really need to lock Geithner in a closet; every time he opens his mouth in public, the market soars to a new bottom.
Off-topic blathering like today’s - on the economy-killing idea of CO2 caps - is not what anyone wants to hear. Cluelessness about the economy is not what anyone wants to hear. An appalling lack of experience, depth and breadth on seemingly all matters Geithner should be at least competent in is not what anyone wants to hear.
What people want to hear is a single plan, in detail, with reasonable explanations of why it will work, how it will be implemented, and what it’s expected results will be, along with a reasonably detailed timetable.
Bernanke - who seems to actually know what he’s doing when he speaks - gave a singularly dismal account of current economic conditions to Congress last week. And because he presented himself well, thoughtfully and in detail, the markets went up. Because they were hearing what no one else in the Administration is even coming close to presenting - a detailed analysis of the problem, a prediction of what the future holds over specific periods of time, and a plan for dealing with it.
Geithner is completely out of his depth, and every public appearance only reinforces his inexperience and ineptness. He needs a big patch of extra-strong duct tape plastered over his piehole and epoxied in place.
641 | SixDegrees Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:00:50pm |
re: #638 abu_garcia
The bottom is somewhere between 4,000 and 5,000 on the DOW.
Google Didier Sornette, look at the charts of his predictions, compare them to a chart of the DOW, Spoos, or NYSE.
As for what happens after that? “You can’t stand the truth!”
“A system under stress will react in a direction to relieve the stress.” - Le Chatlier.
I found a bunch of articles that are analyses of past results. Nothing predictive, just polynomial fits to existing market data. Polynomials are notoriously bad at extrapolation.
Got a reference? I didn’t look through everything, so perhaps I missed what you’re referring to.
642 | SixDegrees Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:10:54pm |
re: #632 Rancher
Ouch, don’t shoot the messenger. Look at it as a buying opportunity you won’t see again in our lifetime.
Agree. Right now, the markets are in panic mode - they aren’t reacting to news (other than the dismal news that Geithner and much of the rest of the Administration appear to be functional morons), they’re reacting to hysteria. Lots and lots of good companies that will certainly continue to perform well in the future are being dragged down to ridiculous discounts, and represent real buying opportunities.
Identifying those isn’t exactly straightforward, of course.
Meanwhile, if it makes anyone feel better - a whole slew of banks are considering returning their TARP funds, along with accrued interest, because they simply don’t need them anymore now that credit markets have improved; job losses week over week and month over month, though still depressingly high, are significantly lower; and announced layoff plans are also dropping significantly. Not sure at all if we’ve hit bottom yet, but it’s quite possible we’re at least scraping it, in terms of the economy as a whole if not the markets.
643 | SFTech Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:39:46pm |
If Bush was President the Headline:
Moron President Kills Stock Market with Radically Impossible Plan Backed up Irrelevant Staff.
With Obama as President the Headline:
President of World Saves Planet by Directing Treasury Secretary to Focus on Global Warming.
Obama the messiah is able to see what we can’t. P/Es meaning doesn’t matter, it’s about destroying the US economy thus saving the planet. We all know that if we don’t have a job, we won’t have to drive to work. Thus the planet is saved.
Sad…so sad.
644 | witness Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:41:24pm |
The talking heads in the media keep saying its all about housing, we must stabilize housing. I disagree. Its all about government waste, over regulation of nascent industries (like nanotechnology), and oppressive corporate taxation. Until we produce again as a nation, this will not turn around, and as long as government is opposed to capitalism and addicted to spending on social welfare programs and rigged contracts, we will continue our downward slide. Given the current bent of this government’s doomed social philosophies and rampant corruption, I foresee many more moons before this nightmare comes to and end. I am starting to believe that they secretly want America to enter a depression (if we have not already opened that seal?). A destitute populace is a means to their end. We thought we won the Cold War, but I believe we have been loosing the final battle for decades. We may never recover.
645 | AlexRogan Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:50:42pm |
re: #329 jcm
The permanent WH staff knows how the protocols work, and what goes into a State visit.
This tells me Obama’s staff over ruled the recommendations of the permanent staff.
Somebody made a decision to do things this way.
Why?
Because Dear Leader and WAB know better than everyone else, no matter what expertise or experience those other people may have, don’tcha know?
/wish I were kidding about Dear Leader, man-god…
646 | SixDegrees Fri, Mar 6, 2009 4:47:51am |
re: #236 avanti
OK, fair is fair. BHO needs to learn how to chose better gifts for foreign heads of state, first lady too.
Sadly, this only reinforces my impression that Obama is an empty suit, an utterly incompetent boob intent on stumbling through the Presidency on his good looks and little else.
There is no plan. At a time when the nation desperately needs one.