1 Gang of One  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:14:23pm

Nice and quiet.

2 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:15:04pm

Gynt

3 zombie  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:15:22pm

That’s not a pier.

That’s the pilings under the pier.

But close enough.

4 jjmckay1216  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:15:47pm

ahhhhhhh nice

5 zombie  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:15:49pm

I’m guessing that’s…Redondo?

6 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:16:28pm

*dipping toes into the water*

7 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:16:39pm

Going to the beach for my son’s birthday. Thanks for the reminder.

8 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:16:41pm

Is this a Pier Review?

9 zombie  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:17:00pm

re: #5 zombie

I’m guessing that’s…Redondo?

Why — yes it is!

Redondo Pier

Damn, I’m good. I didn’t look that up until I already made the guess.

10 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:17:02pm

My peer said to peer into the pier.

/no reason.

11 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:17:23pm

re: #3 zombie

That’s not a pier.

That’s the pilings under the pier.

But close enough.

Are we pilling on here?

12 Unakite  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:17:32pm

re: #3 zombie

That’s not a pier.

That’s the pilings under the pier.

But close enough.

Typo. It’s supposed to be “peer,” as in peer at the pilings.

13 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:18:00pm

It’s under the Big W

14 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:18:10pm

Perfect song for this thread.

15 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:18:17pm

re: #11 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Are we pilling on here?

Oh dear. Are we headed for a wave of puns?

16 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:18:24pm

re: #10 MrSilverDragon

My peer said to peer into the pier.

/no reason.

While eating a pear?

17 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:18:29pm

Obviously photoshopped.

18 Unakite  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:18:32pm

re: #10 MrSilverDragon

My peer said to peer into the pier.

/no reason.

Damn, beat me to it. :(

19 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:18:40pm

re: #10 MrSilverDragon

My peer said to peer into the pier.

/no reason.

Is there another one of those things around? …. and some fishermen?

Maybe we could build a pier-to-pier network?

20 zombie  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:18:48pm

re: #12 Unakite

Typo. It’s supposed to be “peer,” as in peer at the pilings.

When I look at Charles’ picture, it’s a peer-to-pier application.

21 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:18:49pm

re: #13 Nevergiveup

It’s under the Big W

It’s been far too long, I need to see that movie again. Always gets me laughing!

22 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:19:05pm

re: #17 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Obviously photoshopped.

So, who was photoshopped out? Green-hat guy, or “I just lost my house” lady?

23 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:19:08pm

re: #19 eschew_obfuscation

Is there another one of those things around? …. and some fishermen?

Maybe we could build a pier-to-pier network?

That’s called a “bridge”

24 zombie  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:19:14pm

re: #19 eschew_obfuscation

Damn — you beat me by 8 seconds!

25 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:19:27pm

I guess we can now claim that our threads are pier reviewed.

26 teleskiguy  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:19:32pm

It’s like the hammer army in The Wall walking in water.

27 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:19:55pm

re: #21 MrSilverDragon

It’s been far too long, I need to see that movie again. Always gets me laughing!

“I’m coming, Momma!”

28 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:20:02pm

re: #15 EmmmieG

Oh dear. Are we headed for a wave of puns?

More like a display of mussel power.

29 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:20:09pm

re: #23 Kosh’s Shadow

That’s called a “bridge”

You need a causeway for that.

30 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:20:19pm

That reminds me of my partner in Krav Maga last night. She had a really, um, nice pair. I really enjoyed having her put me in the Thai Clinch.

31 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:20:22pm

Nice picture…you can almost smell the salty air.

32 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:20:55pm

re: #28 pre-Boomer Marine brat

More like a display of mussel power.

I debated that pun, but decided to clam up.

33 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:21:06pm
34 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:21:09pm

re: #22 EmmmieG

So, who was photoshopped out? Green-hat guy, or “I just lost my house” lady?

No globular clusters

35 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:21:18pm

Oh, wow.
It’s so hot here, I would just love a body of water to jump into.
And that one looks perfect.

36 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:21:26pm

it a piers that Charles was peering at the pilings while trying to Focus the shot while on a photo Expedition………

37 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:21:31pm

re: #15 EmmmieG

Oh dear. Are we headed for a wave of puns?

There may be a surfeit of them……..

38 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:21:46pm

re: #9 zombie

Yep, a section of the Redondo Pier. It’s a pretty distinctive pier, with those criss-crossing pilings.

39 zombie  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:21:51pm

re: #22 EmmmieG

So, who was photoshopped out? Green-hat guy, or “I just lost my house” lady?


Their official names are Green Helmet Guy, and “The Unluckiest Woman in Lebanon.”

40 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:21:58pm

The perfect joke for this thread, courtesy of MST3K

41 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:22:08pm

re: #35 reine.de.tout

Oh, wow.
It’s so hot here, I would just love a body of water to jump into.
And that one looks perfect.

You would be cold really, really fast. The Pacific Ocean is quite cold, at least in the US.

42 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:22:12pm

re: #37 LGoPs

There may be a surfeit of them……..

A-belone!

43 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:22:13pm

re: #32 MrSilverDragon

I debated that pun, but decided to clam up.

looks like someone else shelled out for it anyway.

44 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:22:18pm

re: #33 buzzsawmonkey

When Irish eyes our pilings…

*BARF* !

45 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:22:30pm

re: #39 zombie

Their official names are Green Helmet Guy, and “The Unluckiest Woman in Lebanon.”


I shall endeavor to keep them straight.

46 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:22:48pm

re: #42 MrSilverDragon

A-belone!

You’re just being shellfish

47 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:22:50pm
48 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:22:55pm

Way cool. Has it been pier-reviewed?

49 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:23:21pm

re: #46 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You’re just being shellfish

You are such a crab

50 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:23:34pm

These puns have me all tide up in knots.

(Two-fer!)

51 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:23:39pm

re: #48 Ward Cleaver

Way cool. Has it been pier-reviewed?

Not yet, but it’s on the dock-et.

52 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:23:45pm

re: #47 buzzsawmonkey

And the photo itself is not Redondant.

There certainly is something Pacific about it.

53 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:23:49pm

re: #38 Charles

Yep, a section of the Redondo Pier. It’s a pretty distinctive pier, with those criss-crossing pilings.

I love the Pier at Oceanside….Although we lost a Marine from the 3/5th about 2 years ago when he drown there…Sad…

54 badger1970  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:23:51pm

re: #30 Mad Al-Jaffee

I hope you didn’t catch a knee. /

55 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:24:08pm

re: #41 EmmmieG

You would be cold really, really fast. The Pacific Ocean is quite cold, at least in the US.

current water temp

56 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:24:29pm

Careful - if you pier at it long enough, you might get a haddock.

57 zombie  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:24:46pm

re: #35 reine.de.tout

Oh, wow.
It’s so hot here, I would just love a body of water to jump into.
And that one looks perfect.

You don’t want to jump into the water at Redondo Beach. Unless you’re wearing a wetsuit or are a dedicated surfer. The water temp there is 56 degrees. Coooooold. And fairly toxic, what with the LA River runoffs in the vicinity.

58 Wendya  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:25:11pm

re: #48 Ward Cleaver

Way cool. Has it been pier-reviewed?

Yes and they’ve decided to declare it is a road.

59 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:25:12pm

re: #56 Charles

Careful - if you pier at it long enough, you might get a haddock.

I’m floundering here. Some one throw me a bone.

60 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:25:15pm

re: #50 EmmmieG

These puns have me all tide up in knots.

(Two-fer!)

Wharf wants to know how you would say that in Klingon.

61 KenJen  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:25:17pm

re: #56 Charles

Careful - if you pier at it long enough, you might get a haddock.

That pun has me grunion from ear to ear.

62 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:25:33pm
63 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:25:50pm

re: #56 Charles

Careful - if you pier at it long enough, you might get a haddock.

If the haddock gets really bad, you might need to see a sturgeon about it.

64 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:25:51pm

re: #56 Charles

Careful - if you pier at it long enough, you might get a haddock.

eventually we run out of puns and just flounder around for the halibut.

65 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:26:00pm

re: #54 badger1970

I hope you didn’t catch a knee. /

We were actually working on throwing knees. The person getting kneed wears a body shield, so no harm done. I did get kneed in the upper chest earlier this week. Still hurts.

66 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:26:00pm

re: #59 BlueCanuck

I’m floundering here. Some one throw me a bone.

Sea, if you think too hard they just don’t come. Just wait a whale.

67 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:26:03pm

re: #38 Charles

Yep, a section of the Redondo Pier. It’s a pretty distinctive pier, with those criss-crossing pilings.

Been there twice.
Wouldn’t ever go back.
The place is a beach.

68 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:26:25pm

re: #57 zombie

You don’t want to jump into the water at Redondo Beach. Unless you’re wearing a wetsuit or are a dedicated surfer. The water temp there is 56 degrees. Coooooold. And fairly toxic, what with the LA River runoffs in the vicinity.

LA River outfall is in Long Beach.

69 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:26:29pm

re: #66 MrSilverDragon

Sea, if you think too hard they just don’t come. Just wait wade a whale.

70 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:26:34pm

re: #46 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You’re just being shellfish

I’ll just mussel in here and say to clam up.

71 zombie  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:26:50pm

re: #61 KenJen

That pun has me grunion from ear to ear.

Wow, a grunion joke — about one of the few beaches in the world that has a grunion run! Touché!

72 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:27:00pm

re: #70 Kosh’s Shadow

I’ll just mussel in here and say to clam up.

Oy(ster) vey!

73 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:27:01pm

re: #56 Charles

Careful - if you pier at it long enough, you might get a haddock.

I have some ass-peerin’ for that ….

(NSFW)

74 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:27:14pm

re: #66 MrSilverDragon

Sea, if you think too hard they just don’t come. Just wait a whale.

they come in spurts…..

75 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:27:46pm

re: #74 redc1c4

they come in spurts…..

Leave my personal life out of this!

/ :)

76 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:27:59pm

re: #61 KenJen

That pun has me grunion from ear to ear.

I’d rather watch a prawn flick……
/

77 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:28:24pm

re: #75 MrSilverDragon

Leave my personal life out of this!

/ :)

it was a killer pun, you gotta admit.

78 Gearhead  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:28:33pm

AHA! It’s coded message! Squint a little, and the pilings read “R I P” and their reflection reads “K M”.

I guess Charles is a “Streets of San Francisco” fan. Who knew?

79 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:28:46pm

re: #53 HoosierHoops

I love the Pier at Oceanside….Although we lost a Marine from the 3/5th about 2 years ago when he drown there…Sad…

Beginning of the Korean War, Dad was called back in and sent to Pendleton. Housing was tight, and for a few weeks we lived in one of the big houses on the beach north of the pier.

/then the Corps put us in one half of a Quonset hut … heh

80 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:28:59pm

re: #76 LGoPs

I’d rather watch a prawn flick……
/

i always feel shrimpish after i do….

81 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:29:17pm

re: #77 redc1c4

it was a killer pun, you gotta admit.

On many, many, many levels, absolutely!

82 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:29:33pm

re: #75 MrSilverDragon

Leave my personal life out of this!

/ :)

Did you blow a seal or something?
I mean in your car
back seat, anyway

83 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:29:42pm

I thought we were supposed to be talking about current events?

Like the el nino in NK.

84 zombie  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:29:45pm

re: #68 redc1c4

LA River outfall is in Long Beach.

Yeah, but that gunk can flow north in certain conditions. I recently saw the ranking of the most toxic beaches in California, and Redondo was not doing so well. Maybe not mostly due to the LA River, but other sewage outflows, and just the way Santa Monica Bay shunts all the bad stuff down towards Redondo and Torrance.

85 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:31:20pm

re: #84 zombie

Yeah, but that gunk can flow north in certain conditions. I recently saw the ranking of the most toxic beaches in California, and Redondo was not doing so well. Maybe not mostly due to the LA River, but other sewage outflows, and just the way Santa Monica Bay shunts all the bad stuff down towards Redondo and Torrance.

That’s just offal!

86 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:31:23pm

Captured U.S. soldier was ‘sold’ to local insurgent group; terrorists say they’ll release video soon

An American soldier who went missing from a U.S. base in eastern Afghanistan was “sold” to a local militant group - which claims it will soon release a video of the captive and a list of demands, a U.S. military official said.

“Our leaders have not decided on the fate of this soldier,” said a commander with the Taliban’s hard-line Haqqani faction, according to Agence-France Press. “They will decide on his fate and soon we will present video tapes of the coalition soldier and our demand to media.”

A U.S. military official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said they noticed the enlisted soldier was missing during a routine check on Tuesday and was first listed as “duty status whereabouts unknown.”

/seems we wandered outside the wire on his own

87 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:31:51pm

re: #79 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Beginning of the Korean War, Dad was called back in and sent to Pendleton. Housing was tight, and for a few weeks we lived in one of the big houses on the beach north of the pier.

/then the Corps put us in one half of a Quonset hut … heh

When first Platoon returned from Iraq we rented a beach house on Cleveland street in Oceanside…
I could hang in Oceanside on the beach…

88 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:31:53pm

re: #57 zombie

You don’t want to jump into the water at Redondo Beach. Unless you’re wearing a wetsuit or are a dedicated surfer. The water temp there is 56 degrees. Coooooold. And fairly toxic, what with the LA River runoffs in the vicinity.

A touch cold, but no worse than Lake Superior in August.

As for the toxicity, that’s not good.

89 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:32:03pm

re: #72 MrSilverDragon

Oy(ster) vey!

Oyster Vey is in Long Island, right?

90 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:32:20pm
91 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:32:23pm

My pier (where I will be tomorrow).

92 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:32:47pm

re: #72 MrSilverDragon

Oy(ster) vey!

That was a pearl of a pun…….

93 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:33:22pm

re: #84 zombie

Yeah, but that gunk can flow north in certain conditions. I recently saw the ranking of the most toxic beaches in California, and Redondo was not doing so well. Maybe not mostly due to the LA River, but other sewage outflows, and just the way Santa Monica Bay shunts all the bad stuff down towards Redondo and Torrance.

there are several other rivers/channels that do drain into the Bay, as well as the main sewage plant north of Redondo…. but, AIUI, part of the problem is that with it being back out of the SB channel because of the shape of the shoreline, it doesn’t exchange water as well….

with the current running down the coast, i’d be amazed if anything from the LB area could get around PV and into the SM bay without a truck or pipeline being involved.

94 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:33:36pm

re: #88 Honorary Yooper

A touch cold, but no worse than Lake Superior in August.

As for the toxicity, that’s not good.

Why does 50 degree water cause hypothermia, but not 50 degree air?

95 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:33:53pm

re: #92 LGoPs

That was a pearl of a pun…….

Thanks, chum!

96 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:34:16pm

Hmmm… this is interesting. A federal judge tossed the conviction of the mother in the MySpace hoax death.

And by the by, anyone want to get AP a copy editor? That first paragraph is a mess.

97 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:34:36pm

re: #87 HoosierHoops

When first Platoon returned from Iraq we rented a beach house on Cleveland street in Oceanside…
I could hang in Oceanside on the beach…

When we were there those few weeks, the only “development” thing between the single row of big houses along the sand and the racetrack was the highway.

Went back in the late 70’s. YUCK!

98 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:34:54pm

re: #94 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Why does 50 degree water cause hypothermia, but not 50 degree air?

Water absorbs heat faster than air …. something like 4-times as fast IIRC.

99 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:35:43pm

re: #86 Killian Bundy

Captured U.S. soldier was ‘sold’ to local insurgent group; terrorists say they’ll release video soon

/seems we wandered outside the wire on his own

Our leaders have not decided on the fate of this soldier,” said a commander with the Taliban’s hard-line Haqqani faction, according to Agence-France Press. “They will decide on his fate and soon we will present video tapes of the coalition soldier and our demand to media.”

Our leaders have decided on the fate of the captors. And that decision is a swift death.

100 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:35:50pm

re: #94 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Why does 50 degree water cause hypothermia, but not 50 degree air?

because water conducts heat away much more efficiently. you stay out in 50 degree weather long enough, without proper clothing and food, and you will get hypothermia.

101 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:35:58pm

re: #97 pre-Boomer Marine brat

When we were there those few weeks, the only “development” thing between the single row of big houses along the sand and the racetrack was the highway.

Went back in the late 70’s. YUCK!

Were the train tracks there on the Beach in the 70’s? ….Bastards woke me up every morning at 5am….

102 opnion  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:36:19pm

Standing at the end of the Huntington Beach pier at dusk one time I saw a big fin slice the water & there was enough illumiation to see a really big shark swimming under the pier.
All I could think is that I was out there during the day.

103 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:36:57pm
104 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:36:58pm

re: #96 lawhawk

Hmmm… this is interesting. A federal judge tossed the conviction of the mother in the MySpace hoax death.

And by the by, anyone want to get AP a copy editor? That first paragraph is a mess.

I saw that. Not being a Lawyer, I am not sure about the law, but there should be a spot in hell for a mother ( adult ) like that.

105 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:36:59pm
106 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:37:08pm

re: #57 zombie

You don’t want to jump into the water at Redondo Beach. Unless you’re wearing a wetsuit or are a dedicated surfer. The water temp there is 56 degrees. Coooooold. And fairly toxic, what with the LA River runoffs in the vicinity.

Oh.
Not for me.
I’m more gulf of mexico in August. Water temps in the 80’s.

107 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:38:03pm

re: #97 pre-Boomer Marine brat

When we were there those few weeks, the only “development” thing between the single row of big houses along the sand and the racetrack was the highway.

Went back in the late 70’s. YUCK!

Red Beach, on Camp Pendleton is nice, as long as you’re not in uniform….. sometime you see cammo nets there, sometimes campers.

108 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:38:13pm

re: #99 LGoPs

Our leaders have decided on the fate of the captors. And that decision is a swift death.

Lets not be hasty. Perhaps we could establish a dialog.

/

109 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:38:18pm

re: #103 buzzsawmonkey

When I was a kid in England, the school had an outdoor pool, unheated.

We were not compelled to get into the water if it was less than 50 degrees—but everyone did, rather than look wimpy.

The English - they like their pools cold & their beer warm.

110 zombie  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:38:24pm

re: #93 redc1c4

there are several other rivers/channels that do drain into the Bay, as well as the main sewage plant north of Redondo…. but, AIUI, part of the problem is that with it being back out of the SB channel because of the shape of the shoreline, it doesn’t exchange water as well….

with the current running down the coast, i’d be amazed if anything from the LB area could get around PV and into the SM bay without a truck or pipeline being involved.

Well, I was thinking of those other river/channels that flow directly into Santa Monica Bay, not the main outflow into Long Beach Harbor. Sorry for the confusion!

111 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:38:26pm

re: #106 reine.de.tout

Oh.
Not for me.
I’m more gulf of mexico in August. Water temps in the 80’s.

For me, it’s Hatteras in July. The temperature of the water feels just right for me. I need to go back, and soon.

112 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:38:29pm

re: #106 reine.de.tout

Oh.
Not for me.
I’m more gulf of mexico in August. Water temps in the 80’s.

I grew up going to the Pacific Ocean. I’ll never forget the first time I was in Florida. It was a revelation.

Atlantic Ocean is for going in. Pacific Ocean is for walking next to and thinking deep thoughts.

113 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:38:41pm

re: #102 opnion

Standing at the end of the Huntington Beach pier at dusk one time I saw a big fin slice the water & there was enough illumiation to see a really big shark swimming under the pier.
All I could think is that I was out there during the day.

Yikes. That’s why I never swim without somebody bigger and fatter than I am. Figure if there’s a close encounter I only have to outswim them…..not the shark.
/

114 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:38:59pm

re: #94 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Why does 50 degree water cause hypothermia, but not 50 degree air?

It takes more energy to heat the water, cooling the person more, and air acts as an insulator because it doesn’t conduct heat well. That’s why a wind is cooling - it removes the air that you heated and replaces it with cold air.

115 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:39:57pm

We just got back from visiting my home town, Seal Beach.
Walked out on the pier a couple of times, once at night.
Piers are cool.
Town looked good. Not overbuilt like the rest of the O.C.

Surfers Rule!

116 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:40:30pm

re: #114 Kosh’s Shadow

It takes more energy to heat the water, cooling the person more, and air acts as an insulator because it doesn’t conduct heat well. That’s why a wind is cooling - it removes the air that you heated and replaces it with cold air.

Unless it’s 100 outside.

117 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:40:41pm

re: #112 EmmmieG

I grew up going to the Pacific Ocean. I’ll never forget the first time I was in Florida. It was a revelation.

Atlantic Ocean is for going in. Pacific Ocean is for walking next to and thinking deep thoughts.

our water is cold because the primary current comes down from Alaska….

that’s one reason SoCal is marginally habitable. otherwise it’d all be desert.

118 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:40:42pm

re: #105 taxfreekiller

Dear California State Comptroller,

The only legal tender in the U.S.A. is issued by the U.S. Treasury.

Yours true,

U.S. Secret Service,
Currency Fraud Division

If I were in California, and had to pay something to the state, I’d take the IOU and insist they take it as payment.

119 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:41:00pm

re: #96 lawhawk

Hmmm… this is interesting. A federal judge tossed the conviction of the mother in the MySpace hoax death.

And by the by, anyone want to get AP a copy editor? That first paragraph is a mess.

I was surprised they convicted her of anything. I don’t know how you charge someone with being a loathsome human being.

120 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:41:09pm
121 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:41:20pm

re: #112 EmmmieG

I grew up going to the Pacific Ocean. I’ll never forget the first time I was in Florida. It was a revelation.

My sisters and I grew up swimming in the Atlantic off the coasts of Maine and NH. They both live in Florida now. Coincidence?

122 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:41:22pm

re: #114 Kosh’s Shadow

It takes more energy to heat the water, cooling the person more, and air acts as an insulator because it doesn’t conduct heat well. That’s why a wind is cooling - it removes the air that you heated and replaces it with cold air.

it also evaporates your perspiration….

123 Unakite  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:41:24pm

re: #94 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Why does 50 degree water cause hypothermia, but not 50 degree air?

Water is a more efishent heat sink.

124 opnion  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:41:42pm

re: #113 LGoPs

Yikes. That’s why I never swim without somebody bigger and fatter than I am. Figure if there’s a close encounter I only have to outswim them…..not the shark.
/

THat could be a good strategy. The fact is that the big fish come in to feed at dawn & dusk, so day swimming is pretty safe.

125 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:41:46pm

re: #116 reine.de.tout

Unless it’s 100 outside.

True. I was thinking of anything under 80 or so. Given that we’ve had about 2 weeks of rain and 60 deg temps, it is hard to remember that it can be warmer.
Global warming, my ass.

126 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:41:54pm

re: #116 reine.de.tout

Unless it’s 100 outside.

It’s a hot wind blowin’ up here today, reine. How about your way?

127 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:42:02pm

re: #119 doppelganglander

I was surprised they convicted her of anything. I don’t know how you charge someone with being a loathsome human being.

call them a politician?

128 Russkilitlover  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:42:03pm

re: #87 HoosierHoops

When first Platoon returned from Iraq we rented a beach house on Cleveland street in Oceanside…
I could hang in Oceanside on the beach…

Go a bit further south - Cardiff and Leucadia have some of the best beaches I’ve ever been in/on - and I’ve pretty much hit them all on the west coast. Besides just beaches, there’s also Swamis - THE best California spot for longboards, very nice long rolling break.

129 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:42:20pm

re: #101 HoosierHoops

Were the train tracks there on the Beach in the 70’s? ….Bastards woke me up every morning at 5am….

Train tracks? ? ? ? … Dunno.
There might have been tracks inland (a quarter-mile or so) back in the 50s.

In the 70s my ex and I were driving down from LA to San Diego and hopped off to find the house I’d lived in. Weren’t off the highway very long.

130 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:42:21pm

re: #119 doppelganglander

I was surprised they convicted her of anything. I don’t know how you charge someone with being a loathsome human being.

What that woman did was so incredibly disgusting.
How could she have been involved in tormenting and taunting that poor teen? That was about as cruel and mean a thing I’ve ever heard of.
How do people get that way?

131 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:42:22pm

re: #106 reine.de.tout

Oh.
Not for me.
I’m more gulf of mexico in August. Water temps in the 80’s.

Yeah, the Gulf tends to be bathwater warm. The temperature there off LA seems to be more in line with Lakes Huron and Michigan right now.

132 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:42:29pm

re: #117 redc1c4

If I never wear a wetsuit again, so what!

133 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:42:58pm

re: #119 doppelganglander

I was surprised they convicted her of anything. I don’t know how you charge someone with being a loathsome human being.

Thats what the Civil court is for.

134 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:43:28pm

re: #116 reine.de.tout

Unless it’s 100 outside.

And 80-90% humidity. (New Orleans comes to mind for that.)

135 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:43:41pm

re: #126 redstateredneck

It’s a hot wind blowin’ up here today, reine. How about your way?

HOT.
HOT.
hot.
miserably hot.
but thankfully, not all that humid. So you can go outside without drowning.

136 sadhu  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:43:44pm

Haddock

137 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:44:08pm

re: #130 reine.de.tout

What that woman did was so incredibly disgusting.
How could she have been involved in tormenting and taunting that poor teen? That was about as cruel and mean a thing I’ve ever heard of.
How do people get that way?

I can’t imagine. Teenagers can torment one another in awful ways, but this was an adult. Chronologically, anyway.

If they can’t put her in jail, I hope at least they can bankrupt her with legal fees and make her name a byword for evil.

138 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:44:10pm

Is a wetsuit wet before you go in the water?
/

139 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:44:23pm

re: #132 IslandLibertarian

If I never wear a wetsuit again, so what!

i have a pool, so it’s really a moot point for both of us…. %-)

140 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:44:34pm
141 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:44:47pm

re: #135 reine.de.tout

So you can go outside without drowning.

“Air You Can Wear”

142 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:44:54pm

re: #131 Honorary Yooper

Yeah, the Gulf tends to be bathwater warm. The temperature there off LA seems to be more in line with Lakes Huron and Michigan right now.

oh yeah…Lake Michigan on a blazing hot summer day….oh so refreshing

143 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:44:55pm

re: #134 Honorary Yooper

And 80-90% humidity. (New Orleans comes to mind for that.)

I will never forget the 7:30 walk I took through the French Quarter one morning.

I haven’t been back to New Orleans since.

(still recovering from the sights and smells)

144 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:45:02pm

re: #134 Honorary Yooper

And 80-90% humidity. (New Orleans comes to mind for that.)

New Orleans and also Baton Rouge (about 60 miles nw of N.O.) We have the same weather.

145 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:45:13pm

re: #129 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Train tracks? ? ? ? … Dunno.
There might have been tracks inland (a quarter-mile or so) back in the 50s.

In the 70s my ex and I were driving down from LA to San Diego and hopped off to find the house I’d lived in. Weren’t off the highway very long.

The tracks run along the beach from LA to San Diego now a days..
I know cause the train woke me every morning….
wish I could remember the name of the train….

146 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:45:22pm

re: #135 reine.de.tout

HOT.
HOT.
hot.
miserably hot.
but thankfully, not all that humid. So you can go outside without drowning.

Same here. The outside temp gauge on my car yesterday (which is always high) showed 108 when I got in it. I kind of melted when I saw it.

147 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:45:38pm

Cynthia McKinney Remains Imprisoned in Israel After Gaza-Bound Boat Is Seized

Former U.S. lawmaker and Green Party presidential candidate Cynthia McKinney and several other human rights activists remained in an Israeli prison Thursday after refusing to sign a deportation form that they claim is self-incriminating.

Please, keep ‘em.

148 Unakite  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:46:10pm

re: #138 LGoPs

Is a wetsuit wet before you go in the water?
/

Only if you pee in it. :)

149 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:46:33pm

re: #145 HoosierHoops

The tracks run along the beach from LA to San Diego now a days..
I know cause the train woke me every morning….
wish I could remember the name of the train….

Amtrak San Diegan local train is either the Coaster or Metrolink

150 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:47:03pm

re: #144 reine.de.tout

New Orleans and also Baton Rouge (about 60 miles nw of N.O.) We have the same weather.

As do we in Southwest MS (100 mi. n of N.O.). It’s just fricken hot all over the south!

151 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:47:17pm

re: #149 redc1c4

Amtrak San Diegan local train is either the Coaster or Metrolink

Coaster! Thank you….

152 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:47:30pm

re: #147 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Cynthia McKinney Remains Imprisoned in Israel After Gaza-Bound Boat Is Seized

Please, keep ‘em.

They should trade them for Shalit, but who’d take them?

153 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:47:33pm

re: #150 redstateredneck

As do we in Southwest MS (100 mi. n of N.O.). It’s just fricken hot all over the south!

and yet you mock global warming…..

/

154 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:47:52pm

re: #138 LGoPs

Is a wetsuit wet before you go in the water?
/

We used to pour pans of warm water into our suits before diving in cold water…..helped for a while ;-)

155 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:47:58pm

re: #150 redstateredneck

As do we in Southwest MS (100 mi. n of N.O.). It’s just fricken hot all over the south!

I’ve been in the South in the summer & in the Southwest in the summer, and I can say that the humid air is much worse than the desert air.

156 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:48:12pm

re: #115 IslandLibertarian

We just got back from visiting my home town, Seal Beach.
Walked out on the pier a couple of times, once at night.
Piers are cool.
Town looked good. Not overbuilt like the rest of the O.C.

Surfers Rule!

Seal Beach?

157 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:48:13pm

re: #137 doppelganglander

I can’t imagine. Teenagers can torment one another in awful ways, but this was an adult. Chronologically, anyway.

If they can’t put her in jail, I hope at least they can bankrupt her with legal fees and make her name a byword for evil.

If I ever had any inkling that my daughter was involved in something like that, there would be hell to pay.

Cruelty, bullying, whatever you want to call it - unacceptable.

In my mind, a person who uses their superior position (whatever it is) to torment and bully another human being is beyond contempt, and it is one of the most egregious sins a person can commit.

158 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:48:27pm

re: #152 Kosh’s Shadow

They should trade them for Shalit, but who’d take them?

The Muppets?

159 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:48:42pm

re: #155 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I’ve been in the South in the summer & in the Southwest in the summer, and I can say that the humid air is much worse than the desert air.

because there’s nowhere for your sweat to evaporate to…..

160 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:48:45pm

i went to the tea party last night. it was smaller than the april 15th gathering.
but a happy go lucky crowd:

1000 people (approx)
2 paul-bots
0 nazis.

it was mostly friendly people waving american flags and holding home made signs. one distinguished serious older gentleman gave me a flyer from the ayn rand center. stephen baldwin was one of the speakers. i vaguely remember him supporting mccain in the election.
anyway, i didn’t see any unsavory elements trying to taint or commander the patriotic crowd.

161 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:49:11pm

re: #138 LGoPs

Is a wetsuit wet before you go in the water?
/

only if you didn’t hang it out the night before………..oh those horribly cold February mornings, slipping into a cold wet wetsuit at River Jetties……..

162 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:49:32pm

re: #143 MrSilverDragon

I will never forget the 7:30 walk I took through the French Quarter one morning.

I haven’t been back to New Orleans since.

(still recovering from the sights and smells)

LOL.
Yep. Not nice.

163 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:49:33pm

re: #160 nyc redneck

i went to the tea party last night. it was smaller than the april 15th gathering.
but a happy go lucky crowd:

1000 people (approx)
2 paul-bots
0 nazis.

it was mostly friendly people waving american flags and holding home made signs. one distinguished serious older gentleman gave me a flyer from the ayn rand center. stephen baldwin was one of the speakers. i vaguely remember him supporting mccain in the election.
anyway, i didn’t see any unsavory elements trying to taint or commander the patriotic crowd.

Killgore will point them out to you, I’m sure!

164 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:49:34pm

re: #155 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I’ve been in the South in the summer & in the Southwest in the summer, and I can say that the humid air is much worse than the desert air.

But it’s better for the complexion (at least, I keep telling myself that).

165 Gearhead  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:50:02pm

The only thing we have to pier, is pier itself.

166 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:50:25pm

re: #162 reine.de.tout

LOL.
Yep. Not nice.

eau de toilet?

167 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:50:39pm

re: #145 HoosierHoops

The tracks run along the beach from LA to San Diego now a days..
I know cause the train woke me every morning….
wish I could remember the name of the train….

I just looked at Google Maps.
EVERYTHING has changed.
Only the pier is still there.
I swear those tracks weren’t there in the 50s.

168 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:50:46pm

re: #160 nyc redneck

i went to the tea party last night. it was smaller than the april 15th gathering.
but a happy go lucky crowd:

1000 people (approx)
2 paul-bots
0 nazis.

it was mostly friendly people waving american flags and holding home made signs. one distinguished serious older gentleman gave me a flyer from the ayn rand center. stephen baldwin was one of the speakers. i vaguely remember him supporting mccain in the election.
anyway, i didn’t see any unsavory elements trying to taint or commander the patriotic crowd.

You’re lying! It was full of neo-nazis, Paulians, and radical right wing activists!

/KT

169 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:51:21pm

re: #144 reine.de.tout

New Orleans and also Baton Rouge (about 60 miles nw of N.O.) We have the same weather.

I remember that weather. Been 30 years, but I remember it.

We had something similar last week up here in Chicagoland. It was 90 degrees out in Joliet with a dew point of 78. In all, it was a nice day to spend at the water park.

170 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:51:23pm

re: #166 redstateredneck

eau de toilet?

eau de sewer is more like it

171 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:51:46pm

re: #160 nyc redneck

i went to the tea party last night. it was smaller than the april 15th gathering.
but a happy go lucky crowd:

1000 people (approx)
2 paul-bots
0 nazis.

it was mostly friendly people waving american flags and holding home made signs. one distinguished serious older gentleman gave me a flyer from the ayn rand center. stephen baldwin was one of the speakers. i vaguely remember him supporting mccain in the election.
anyway, i didn’t see any unsavory elements trying to taint or commander the patriotic crowd.

Why would you. Paul-bots and Nazi’s wouldn’t just jump out in the crowd, they would blend in, so you would come back to LGF and make a report saying how everything was fine.

You have been fool by the Paulian-Stormfront-Bircher-Larouchean Cabal. Bahahahahahahahahahahah….

:)

172 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:51:56pm

re: #170 redc1c4

eau de sewer is more like it

I thought it was eau de do dah day?

173 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:52:04pm

re: #166 redstateredneck

eau de toilet?

eau de Bourbon.

174 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:52:28pm

re: #147 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Cynthia McKinney Remains Imprisoned in Israel After Gaza-Bound Boat Is Seized

Please, keep ‘em.

Israel really has enough problems. Actually let them go to Gaza and don’t let them out.

175 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:52:33pm

re: #160 nyc redneck

i went to the tea party last night. it was smaller than the april 15th gathering.
but a happy go lucky crowd:

1000 people (approx)
2 paul-bots
0 nazis.

it was mostly friendly people waving american flags and holding home made signs. one distinguished serious older gentleman gave me a flyer from the ayn rand center. stephen baldwin was one of the speakers. i vaguely remember him supporting mccain in the election.
anyway, i didn’t see any unsavory elements trying to taint or commander the patriotic crowd.

Nice report, glad to have it.

176 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:52:51pm

re: #166 redstateredneck

eau de toilet?

Yep.

177 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:52:57pm

re: #171 Walter L. Newton

Why would you. Paul-bots and Nazi’s wouldn’t just jump out in the crowd, they would blend in, so you would come back to LGF and make a report saying how everything was fine.

You have been fool by the Paulian-Stormfront-Bircher-Larouchean Cabal. Bahahahahahahahahahahah….

:)

what an intelligent design!

178 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:53:10pm

re: #156 lawhawk

Seal Beach?

Seal Beach!

179 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:53:44pm
180 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:53:46pm

re: #150 redstateredneck
If you care to come up to Boston, we will be happy to have you take some of the weather we have had. We hit a high of 64 today. Its been like that for a month.

181 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:54:18pm

re: #170 redc1c4

eau de sewer is more like it

in fairness, I’ve wandered all over the Quarter at various different times and never have been repulsed…I think some of that is exaggeration, but then people will tell me I don’t know what the fuck

182 s3bpilot  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:54:19pm

Nice and cool in Victoria BC too!

183 subsailor68  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:54:58pm

I used to live in Southern California, but I moved to the Texas Hill Country where I have no piers.

(Only kidding.)

184 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:55:01pm

bbl

185 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:55:29pm

re: #181 albusteve

in fairness, I’ve wandered all over the Quarter at various different times and never have been repulsed…I think some of that is exaggeration, but then people will tell me I don’t know what the fuck

Honestly Steve, take it from me, when you are roaming around there as shit faced as the rest of the folk, what’s to notice :)

186 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:55:49pm

re: #180 Shr_Nfr

If you care to come up to Boston, we will be happy to have you take some of the weather we have had. We hit a high of 64 today. Its been like that for a month.

A HIGH of 64?
gawd, that sounds so good.

My a/c is running 24/7. And right now I have it on 80. It just never stops.

187 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:56:26pm

Michael Jackson’s ex-wife Debbie Rowe broke her silence Thursday and declared she wants custody of the two children she had with the late King of Pop.

“I want my children,” Rowe said during a 90-minute phone interview with NBC-LA early Thursday.

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

I wonder if she wants to go to his funeral if she will have to pay?

188 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:56:49pm

re: #180 Shr_Nfr

If you care to come up to Boston, we will be happy to have you take some of the weather we have had. We hit a high of 64 today. Its been like that for a month.


I wouldn’t mind a day or two of it.

189 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:56:59pm

Caught a guy sleeping at his desk. We just spent the last few minutes clearing his desk. All he has left is his mouse and keyboard. Awaiting for hilarity to ensue.

190 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:57:15pm

I’m outta here! Have a happy Independence Day, lizards - don’t forget what it’s all about.

191 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:57:19pm

re: #174 Nevergiveup

Israel really has enough problems. Actually let them go to Gaza and don’t let them out.

How about tell Hamas to release Shalit, or these people will be shipped to Gaza?

192 irish rose  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:57:32pm

Ahhhh… just what the doctor ordered for a quiet moment of reflective solitude.

Thanks, Charles!

193 rightside  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:58:01pm

re: #141 scottishbuzzsaw

Scottish!

194 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:58:08pm

re: #180 Shr_Nfr

If you care to come up to Boston, we will be happy to have you take some of the weather we have had. We hit a high of 64 today. Its been like that for a month.

I don’t mind the low temperatures, but they can have the rain.

195 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:58:11pm

re: #186 reine.de.tout

We’ve got more rain in the forecast here in the NYC metro area. We’ve had low pressure systems training over the region for the past month, dropping rain practically every day. More showers this AM, more on the way for the commute home. And June 2009 is one of the coolest on record in NYC (and one of the wettest).

196 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:58:16pm

re: #190 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I’m outta here! Have a happy Independence Day, lizards - don’t forget what it’s all about.

Avoiding aliens which destroy the Earth’s major cities?

197 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:58:20pm

re: #190 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I’m outta here! Have a happy Independence Day, lizards - don’t forget what it’s all about.

Barbeque, alcohol and fireworks, dammit!

198 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:58:33pm

Loud Sex Leads to Assault Charge for Four Teens, Police Say
Thursday, July 02, 2009
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TORRINGTON, Conn. — Police say a Connecticut girl overheard her mother’s screams during sex and thought she was being assaulted, so she rounded up some friends to attack the woman’s companion.

The 16-year-old girl, two boys and a 19-year-old man were arrested Tuesday and arraigned Wednesday on assault and conspiracy charges.

According to Torrington police and the woman, the girl thought her mother was being attacked on June 6. Police say the teens went into the bedroom and beat the mother’s 25-year-old companion with a baseball bat and punched him. The man, Roger Swanson of Torrington, says he suffered a black eye and several bruises.

The woman, Melanie Arnold, denies she screamed. She tells The Associated Press her daughter heard a slap and thought it was an assault.

Ya can’t make this stuff up?

199 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:58:36pm

re: #186 reine.de.tout

A HIGH of 64?
gawd, that sounds so good.

My a/c is running 24/7. And right now I have it on 80. It just never stops.

And that is different then which summer in La.? I live in Houston in 1983-9 and we ran air 24/7 and average electrical bill was about 400 dollars a month.

200 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:59:54pm

re: #189 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Caught a guy sleeping at his desk. We just spent the last few minutes clearing his desk. All he has left is his mouse and keyboard. Awaiting for hilarity to ensue.

My husband was hit by chronic vertigo about 18 years ago. He was on sick-leave for about 3 weeks while he relearned how to balance himself. His first day back at work went well. On the second day, his coworkers put everything in his office at an angle. He did fall over…laughing.

201 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:00:07pm
202 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:00:40pm

re: #199 Walter L. Newton

And that is different then which summer in La.? I live in Houston in 1983-9 and we ran air 24/7 and average electrical bill was about 400 dollars a month.

Thanks for posting ..I lost your address….
Letter on the way Friday…
plus I read the reviews about the play you wrote..
You fucking rock dude…good job

203 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:00:50pm

re: #193 rightside

Scottish!

Rightside!

204 Bear  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:01:27pm

It is 56 here with overcast. Probably will be the same for 4th fireworks.

205 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:01:58pm

re: #199 Walter L. Newton

And that is different then which summer in La.? I live in Houston in 1983-9 and we ran air 24/7 and average electrical bill was about 400 dollars a month.

Under cap and trade, air conditioning will be priceless.

206 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:02:12pm

re: #187 Nevergiveup

Michael Jackson’s ex-wife Debbie Rowe broke her silence Thursday and declared she wants custody of the two children she had with the late King of Pop.

“I want my children,” Rowe said during a 90-minute phone interview with NBC-LA early Thursday.

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

I wonder if she wants to go to his funeral if she will have to pay?

I don’t know her motive, but, it already appears, at first look, that anything that MJ owned, touched, anything that has anything to do with him, is going to be looked at as a piece of the MJ fortune.

This franchise will be bigger than the Beatles and last many years into the future.

Money makes the world go around
The world go around
The world go around
Money makes the world go around
It makes the world go ‘round.

A mark, a yen, a buck, or a pound
A buck or a pound
A buck or a pound
Is all that makes the world go around,
That clinking clanking sound
Can make the world go ‘round.

Money money money money money money
Money money money money money money
Money money money money money money
Money money

If you happen To be rich,
And you feel like a
Night’s enetertainment
You can pay for a
Gay escapade.

207 rightside  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:02:20pm

re: #203 scottishbuzzsaw

Good to see you, hope all is well, and that you enjoy your independence day.

208 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:02:36pm

re: #200 scottishbuzzsaw

My husband was hit by chronic vertigo about 18 years ago. He was on sick-leave for about 3 weeks while he relearned how to balance himself. His first day back at work went well. On the second day, his coworkers put everything in his office at an angle. He did fall over…laughing.

Last time we had a sleeper, we reset the office clock to 9pm, turned off all the lights and had the guy’s wife call him asking where the hell he was.

209 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:02:54pm

re: #202 HoosierHoops

Thanks for posting ..I lost your address….
Letter on the way Friday…
plus I read the reviews about the play you wrote..
You fucking rock dude…good job

Thanks.

210 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:03:16pm

22:57 Kadima: Netanyahu talks about lowering taxes day after raising VAT (Ch. 10)

Must be taking tips from Obama?

211 wrenchwench  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:03:41pm

Gosh, I heard Charles was without pier….

212 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:04:09pm

re: #207 rightside

Good to see you, hope all is well, and that you enjoy your independence day.

All is well, and I hope the same for you. Happy 4th!

213 nikis-knight  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:04:28pm

Since it is off-topic,
I was reading a thread from yesterday, Throbert mentioned young’uns playing with dolls.
My little 14 m.o. is so cute these days. She takes her little baby dolls, (“Baaay-BE!”), throws them into a flimsy tent in her play room and crawls in after. She rocks them for a moment, then my wife will ask “how’s the babies?”, and she chucks them back out.
/pointless anecdote

214 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:04:34pm

re: #208 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Last time we had a sleeper, we reset the office clock to 9pm, turned off all the lights and had the guy’s wife call him asking where the hell he was.

Now that’s funny!

215 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:05:23pm

re: #210 Nevergiveup

Israel always has budget problems. Bibi is just dealing with the mess left over from Olmert, which was left over from Sharon, and you get the picture… (the blame game is universal).

216 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:05:40pm

re: #205 Kosh’s Shadow

Under cap and trade, air conditioning will be priceless.

yup…bills unpaid, power shut off, suffering…people will get very pissed and it’s just the beginning…gas will go up, higher unemployment…hair trigger anger…Watts baby

217 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:06:41pm

re: #199 Walter L. Newton

And that is different then which summer in La.? I live in Houston in 1983-9 and we ran air 24/7 and average electrical bill was about 400 dollars a month.

Well, you have a point, Walter.
It seems to be very very hot earlier than usual, though.
We don’t usually have weeks on end of 97-102 degree temps in June, which we did this year. I’m dreading August. And God forbid I should lose my electricity for any period of time.

218 subsailor68  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:06:46pm

Well all, must go. It’s almost time to get together with the guys for a few cold ones. I’ve been blogging so long I don’t remember how to talk. Maybe I’ll just sit there at the table and text ‘em.

Seriously, I hope everyone here in America has a wonderful Independence Day, and that all my lizard friends around the world take just a few minutes to pour a glass and celebrate along with us!

God bless everyone!

219 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:07:26pm

re: #216 albusteve

yup…bills unpaid, power shut off, suffering…people will get very pissed and it’s just the beginning…gas will go up, higher unemployment…hair trigger anger…Watts baby

Yeah, but Obama said we couldn’t keep our temperature at 72 degrees……you mean to tell me he was telling the truth?
///

220 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:07:37pm

re: #198 Nevergiveup

Loud Sex Leads to Assault Charge for Four Teens, Police Say
Thursday, July 02, 2009
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TORRINGTON, Conn. — Police say a Connecticut girl overheard her mother’s screams during sex and thought she was being assaulted, so she rounded up some friends to attack the woman’s companion.

The 16-year-old girl, two boys and a 19-year-old man were arrested Tuesday and arraigned Wednesday on assault and conspiracy charges.

According to Torrington police and the woman, the girl thought her mother was being attacked on June 6. Police say the teens went into the bedroom and beat the mother’s 25-year-old companion with a baseball bat and punched him. The man, Roger Swanson of Torrington, says he suffered a black eye and several bruises.

The woman, Melanie Arnold, denies she screamed. She tells The Associated Press her daughter heard a slap and thought it was an assault.

Ya can’t make this stuff up?

I had to laugh, in spite of the guy getting beat up, which is too bad.

But that Mom must just be completely stupid.

221 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:07:53pm

re: #218 subsailor68

Well all, must go. It’s almost time to get together with the guys for a few cold ones. I’ve been blogging so long I don’t remember how to talk. Maybe I’ll just sit there at the table and text ‘em.

Seriously, I hope everyone here in America has a wonderful Independence Day, and that all my lizard friends around the world take just a few minutes to pour a glass and celebrate along with us!

God bless everyone!

Bye, and while you are talking to them, don’t forget to use the sarc tag when needed.

222 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:08:00pm

re: #215 lawhawk

Israel always has budget problems. Bibi is just dealing with the mess left over from Olmert, which was left over from Sharon, and you get the picture… (the blame game is universal).

Maybe if they stopped giving money to the Paliterrorists…

223 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:08:17pm

re: #213 nikis-knight

Since it is off-topic,
I was reading a thread from yesterday, Throbert mentioned young’uns playing with dolls.
My little 14 m.o. is so cute these days. She takes her little baby dolls, (“Baaay-BE!”), throws them into a flimsy tent in her play room and crawls in after. She rocks them for a moment, then my wife will ask “how’s the babies?”, and she chucks them back out.
/pointless anecdote

Those days will be distant memories before you know it. They grow up too fast. Cherish them.

224 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:08:41pm

Howdy.

Air France plane did not break up in flight - report

PARIS, France (CNN) — The Air France plane that crashed a month ago off the coast of Brazil “did not break up or become destroyed in flight,” but bellyflopped intact into the Atlantic Ocean, the French air investigation agency announced Thursday.

“The plane went straight down, almost vertically… towards the surface of the water, very very fast,” air accident investigator Alain Bouillard said.

Based on visual study of the physical remains of the Airbus A330 that have been recovered, “we were able to see that the plane hit the surface of the water flat. Therefore everything was pushed upwards — everything was pushed from the bottom to the top” of the plane, he said.

[…]

Air France 447 was unable to fly on autopilot at the time of the crash, the investigator said. That was because the autopilot was not receiving speed, wind or direction information, he said.

Hmm.

One possible cause that comes to mind is blocked pitot tubes. This has happened before; ground crews put tape over the pitot tubes when cleaning the aircraft; then forget to take the stuff off. Pilot doesn’t check. Once airborne, the computer can’t get accurate information based on air pressure and speed.

225 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:09:02pm

re: #217 reine.de.tout

Well, you have a point, Walter.
It seems to be very very hot earlier than usual, though.
We don’t usually have weeks on end of 97-102 degree temps in June, which we did this year. I’m dreading August. And God forbid I should lose my electricity for any period of time.


Please, Lord, no hurricanes!

226 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:09:24pm

re: #219 LGoPs

Yeah, but Obama said we couldn’t keep our temperature at 72 degrees……you mean to tell me he was telling the truth?
///

no oil, no refineries, no nuclear power is starting to catch up with us…this new bill is suicidal imo

227 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:10:06pm

re: #213 nikis-knight

Since it is off-topic,
I was reading a thread from yesterday, Throbert mentioned young’uns playing with dolls.
My little 14 m.o. is so cute these days. She takes her little baby dolls, (“Baaay-BE!”), throws them into a flimsy tent in her play room and crawls in after. She rocks them for a moment, then my wife will ask “how’s the babies?”, and she chucks them back out.
/pointless anecdote

And a pointless follow-up.
My daughter never really played with dolls.
She liked to have them without clothes, always.
And she would cut all the hair.
And I found her barbie dolls naked and tied up. That was a scary moment for me.

228 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:10:43pm

re: #198 Nevergiveup

Loud Sex Leads to Assault Charge for Four Teens, Police Say
Thursday, July 02, 2009
PrintShareThis
TORRINGTON, Conn. — Police say a Connecticut girl overheard her mother’s screams during sex and thought she was being assaulted, so she rounded up some friends to attack the woman’s companion.

The 16-year-old girl, two boys and a 19-year-old man were arrested Tuesday and arraigned Wednesday on assault and conspiracy charges.

According to Torrington police and the woman, the girl thought her mother was being attacked on June 6. Police say the teens went into the bedroom and beat the mother’s 25-year-old companion with a baseball bat and punched him. The man, Roger Swanson of Torrington, says he suffered a black eye and several bruises.

The woman, Melanie Arnold, denies she screamed. She tells The Associated Press her daughter heard a slap and thought it was an assault.

Ya can’t make this stuff up?

That should serve as a warning to all you cougars out there, don’t invite the boytoy home unless you’re absolutely sure the kids are spending the night elsewhere.

229 Clemente  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:11:07pm
Virgin-Americans Vow Fight Against Cap-and-Trade’s Blood Sacrifice Amendment

House Energy Committee Chair Henry Waxman (D-CA) defended the bill’s controversial ‘virgin exclusions’ rider, which specifies sacrificial exemptions for certain religious orders, members of Congress, and Keith Olbermann.

Presidential spokesman Robert Gibbs, himself a well-known virgin, sought to allay fears about the bill.

“Look, I know this bill has been the subject of wild rumors and speculation, but let’s all just sit back and see how it plays out,” said Gibbs. “The bottom line is that the virgin community has nothing to worry about. Believe me, if this thing passes, I promise everybody’s going to get screwed.”

The Iowahawk brings his own extraordinary genius to cap ‘n’ tax.

/as always, apologies if this duplicates earlier links!

230 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:11:25pm

re: #223 redstateredneck

Those days will be distant memories before you know it. They grow up too fast. Cherish them.

I remember when daughter was young, complaining about all the “stuff” all over the place.

My dad told me just that - cherish it, it will all be gone before you know it.

I learned to just let it be.

231 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:11:38pm

re: #228 doppelganglander

That should serve as a warning to all you cougars out there, don’t invite the boytoy home unless you’re absolutely sure the kids are spending the night elsewhere.

The phrase “Get a room!” springs to mind.

232 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:11:43pm

re: #227 reine.de.tout

And a pointless follow-up.
My daughter never really played with dolls.
She liked to have them without clothes, always.
And she would cut all the hair.
And I found her barbie dolls naked and tied up. That was a scary moment for me.

Another pointless follow-up.

We used to play “Beauty Shop.” Poor Barbies. Poor, poor, punk Barbies.

233 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:11:46pm

re: #227 reine.de.tout

And a pointless follow-up.
My daughter never really played with dolls.
She liked to have them without clothes, always.
And she would cut all the hair.
And I found her barbie dolls naked and tied up. That was a scary moment for me.

HAHA! She’s turned out all right so far, so I wouldn’t worry about it.

234 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:12:15pm

re: #226 albusteve

no oil, no refineries, no nuclear power is starting to catch up with us…this new bill is suicidal imo

Obama fooled the 52% that voted for him by slyly stating his views out in the open and in plain English……….
I can understand their confusion.
/ Stupid fucktards

235 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:12:43pm

re: #227 reine.de.tout

And a pointless follow-up.
My daughter never really played with dolls.
She liked to have them without clothes, always.
And she would cut all the hair.
And I found her barbie dolls naked and tied up. That was a scary moment for me.

Not a problem They were hot and your daughter was helping them cool off. She tied them up so they would leave La. because of the heat. This diagnoses brought to you by Dr. Fill. :)

236 KenJen  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:13:04pm

re: #227 reine.de.tout

And a pointless follow-up.
My daughter never really played with dolls.
She liked to have them without clothes, always.
And she would cut all the hair.
And I found her barbie dolls naked and tied up. That was a scary moment for me.

When I was little my sister and I used to frizz up our barbie’s hair and throw them up into a huge pine tree in our front yard. My dad couldn’t figure where all our dolls were going until a neighbor pointed it out. We had at least 10 of them up there. All naked.

237 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:13:21pm

re: #224 Occasional Reader

Howdy.

Air France plane did not break up in flight - report

Hmm.

One possible cause that comes to mind is blocked pitot tubes. This has happened before; ground crews put tape over the pitot tubes when cleaning the aircraft; then forget to take the stuff off. Pilot doesn’t check. Once airborne, the computer can’t get accurate information based on air pressure and speed.

They had been talking about iced-over pitot tubes because the ones on the aircraft hadn’t been replaced. This is consistent with that, but not with terrorism, which would have made a hole in the aircraft causing it to come apart.

238 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:13:30pm

garlic stuffed green olives, hunstman cheese, wheat crackers and burgundy tri-tip make a fine lunch.

Nummy nummy nummy, I got love in my tummy.

239 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:13:48pm

re: #219 LGoPs

Yeah, but Obama said we couldn’t keep our temperature at 72 degrees……you mean to tell me he was telling the truth?
///

he tells the truth a lot. but who’s listening or actually believes that he will bankrupt the coal industry, cause electricity to sky rocket, spread our wealth around or stop us from eating all we want and staying warm.

240 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:13:52pm

re: #227 reine.de.tout

And a pointless follow-up.
My daughter never really played with dolls.
She liked to have them without clothes, always.
And she would cut all the hair.
And I found her barbie dolls naked and tied up. That was a scary moment for me.

LOL! My older daughter adored dolls of all kinds. The younger one couldn’t care less, but she would occasionally give Barbie a haircut, like your daughter. Oh, and then there was the time she used a Sharpie to give Barbie tribal tattoos. However, she did ask for a Ken doll once. I never quite knew what to make of that.

241 opnion  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:14:02pm

re: #205 Kosh’s Shadow

Under cap and trade, air conditioning will be priceless.

Cap & trade & all of the ‘Green” jobs that Obama is talking about makes no sense during a recession with unemployment going to double digits.
Jut get people back to work, quit looting the treasury & stop flying to New York for date night.

242 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:14:07pm

re: #227 reine.de.tout

And a pointless follow-up.
My daughter never really played with dolls.
She liked to have them without clothes, always.
And she would cut all the hair.
And I found her barbie dolls naked and tied up. That was a scary moment for me.

Mine dressed He-Man in Barbie’s clothes.

243 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:14:23pm

re: #234 LGoPs

Obama fooled the 52% that voted for him by slyly stating his views out in the open and in plain English……….
I can understand their confusion.
/ Stupid fucktards

some of the very people that worship this guy will suffer sooner and the most while their liberal leaders languish in money…how ironic

244 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:14:23pm

re: #238 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

garlic stuffed green olives, hunstman cheese, wheat crackers and burgundy tri-tip make a fine lunch.

Nummy nummy nummy, I got love in my tummy.

Thanks for that. I had gruel for lunch.
Harumph.

/

245 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:14:59pm

re: #239 nyc redneck

he tells the truth a lot. but who’s listening or actually believes that he will bankrupt the coal industry, cause electricity to sky rocket, spread our wealth around or stop us from eating all we want and staying warm.

Look at my # 234…….

246 irish rose  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:15:42pm

re: #187 Nevergiveup

Michael Jackson’s ex-wife Debbie Rowe broke her silence Thursday and declared she wants custody of the two children she had with the late King of Pop.

“I want my children,” Rowe said during a 90-minute phone interview with NBC-LA early Thursday.

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

I wonder if she wants to go to his funeral if she will have to pay?


She should have them.

Jacksons’ family puts the “d” in dysfunctional… the parents did a crap job raising the first set of kids, they were all messed up psychologically and emotionally. They have no absolutely business trying to raise their their grandkids.

It’s totally gaggifying to have to watch MJ’s parents and siblings circling around like vultures before he’s even buried.

Someone needs to step in and have these kids moved into a stable (read: nondysfuctional) home. And that doesn’t necessarily mean the home that has the most money, the best nannies that money can buy and the priciest bedroom furniture.

247 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:16:06pm

re: #242 Kosh’s Shadow

Mine dressed He-Man in Barbie’s clothes.

What a great marketing idea - the first tranny doll for children! You guys could make a fortune.

248 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:16:44pm

re: #235 Walter L. Newton

re: #236 KenJen

I’m gonna tell ya’ll. I worried myself sick over that.
She was playing ‘rescue’, apparently, where they would be tied up by the bad guys and rescued by Ken. At least that’s what she told me.

249 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:17:09pm
250 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:17:13pm

Please, no more Michael Jackson. Please. He’d dead. He’s still dead. He will continue being dead.

251 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:17:38pm

re: #245 LGoPs

Look at my # 234…….

oh, ok, you are exactly right.
:D

252 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:17:38pm

re: #243 albusteve

some of the very people that worship this guy will suffer sooner and the most while their liberal leaders languish in money…how ironic

I can live with that. They deserve what they get, although the rest of us don’t. What I can’t abide is the so called leaders - a better term would be apparatchiks - thriving.
That boils my blood.

253 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:17:41pm

re: #247 doppelganglander

What a great marketing idea - the first tranny doll for children! You guys could make a fortune.

TS Joe!

254 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:18:04pm

re: #240 doppelganglander

LOL! My older daughter adored dolls of all kinds. The younger one couldn’t care less, but she would occasionally give Barbie a haircut, like your daughter. Oh, and then there was the time she used a Sharpie to give Barbie tribal tattoos. However, she did ask for a Ken doll once. I never quite knew what to make of that.

ROFL! Now that’s funny.

255 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:18:33pm
256 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:18:57pm

Winding down here toward the weekend.

[yawn]

Okay, let’s see:

God does not exist.

Discuss.

257 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:19:04pm

I am telling you, LGF is slowing down for me. Killgore mentioned this 2 days ago, and it has been happening to me for about a day and a half.

It’s not my computer, it’s not my browser, all other websites are fine, fast and no delays.

I have the highest speed Comcast offers over cable.

It appears that it’s graphics coming from LGF server is slowing things down. I can have a page render here, and I still see avatars coming in. Right now the message at the bottom of the page is (I use Safari) completed 250 of 253 items, meaning three elements of this page won’t load.

Something is wrong, and it’s not on my side.

258 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:19:10pm

re: #255 buzzsawmonkey

But if his body is subjected to that Chinese Corpse Plasticizing Process, motorized, and fitted with a microphone, he can remain the King of Pop indefinitely.

I saw that, but was too grossed out to follow the process.

Can’t we just settle for black velvet paintings?

259 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:19:56pm

re: #255 buzzsawmonkey

But if his body is subjected to that Chinese Corpse Plasticizing Process, motorized, and fitted with a microphone, he can remain the King of Pop indefinitely.

I guess I missed the Chinese Corpse Plasticizing story. Dare I ask?

260 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:20:07pm

re: #247 doppelganglander

What a great marketing idea - the first tranny doll for children! You guys could make a fortune.

We’d just have to market it in the right places.
It would sell well in San Francisco and Sweden; Greenwich Village, and some other places.

261 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:20:47pm

re: #257 Walter L. Newton

It’s not my computer, it’s not my browser,

Maybe it’s you. What kind of mushrooms did you put in that omelette?

262 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:21:04pm

RoboGeisha

263 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:21:16pm

re: #257 Walter L. Newton

I am telling you, LGF is slowing down for me. Killgore mentioned this 2 days ago, and it has been happening to me for about a day and a half.

It’s not my computer, it’s not my browser, all other websites are fine, fast and no delays.

I have the highest speed Comcast offers over cable.

It appears that it’s graphics coming from LGF server is slowing things down. I can have a page render here, and I still see avatars coming in. Right now the message at the bottom of the page is (I use Safari) completed 250 of 253 items, meaning three elements of this page won’t load.

Something is wrong, and it’s not on my side.

H———o———-w————-a————b———o——u———t———n———o———-w. I———-s———t———h———a———t————f———-a———s———-t———e———-r————?

264 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:22:04pm

re: #250 Occasional Reader

Please, no more Michael Jackson. Please. He’d dead. He’s still dead. He will continue being dead.

Michael Jackson died. When did it happen? Tell me all about it? What killed him? Do you think there was any foul play? What are going to happen to his kids? Is there a will? What are other people saying about this? DId they find any drugs or something? Are they going to refund all the tickets they sold to his upcoming concerts? When is the funeral? People want to know.

265 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:22:05pm

Okay. I have tried to be productive today, but forget it. I’m being blocked at every turn; everything is either broken or inaccessible; and I just don’t care this late in the day.

[pulls up a chair, puts up the feet]

So I’m starting my Fourth now.

266 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:22:10pm
267 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:22:17pm
268 JustABill  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:22:50pm

re: #200 scottishbuzzsaw

My husband was hit by chronic vertigo about 18 years ago. He was on sick-leave for about 3 weeks while he relearned how to balance himself. His first day back at work went well. On the second day, his coworkers put everything in his office at an angle. He did fall over…laughing.

I had an odd experience similar to that several years ago. I had a pretty bad cold and blew my nose. All of a sudden the room started spinning. At the time, I was alone in my apartment I managed to sit down before I fell down.

So now I am sitting there thinking I am having a stroke or something and I need to get to a phone to dial 911. I am trying to figure out how to get to the phone without falling. After a minute or two I hear a squeaking sound from my ear as the pressure I had put on my ear by blowing my nose balances itself out. A couple seconds later I was back to normal. A very odd and scary experience…

269 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:23:13pm

re: #257 Walter L. Newton

I am telling you, LGF is slowing down for me. Killgore mentioned this 2 days ago, and it has been happening to me for about a day and a half.

It’s not my computer, it’s not my browser, all other websites are fine, fast and no delays.

I have the highest speed Comcast offers over cable.

It appears that it’s graphics coming from LGF server is slowing things down. I can have a page render here, and I still see avatars coming in. Right now the message at the bottom of the page is (I use Safari) completed 250 of 253 items, meaning three elements of this page won’t load.

Something is wrong, and it’s not on my side.

my PC is flying along at top speed no matter page size…but it’s weird because I’ve recently noticed a couple of favorite site that have slowed to a stall…the Cowboy home page is extremely slow for example, and only recently…there is a conspiracy afoot….Paulians are my first guess

270 nikis-knight  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:23:13pm

re: #227 reine.de.tout

And a pointless follow-up.
My daughter never really played with dolls.
She liked to have them without clothes, always.
And she would cut all the hair.
And I found her barbie dolls naked and tied up. That was a scary moment for me.

Probably GIJoe trying to extort his own Malibu mansion.

271 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:23:17pm

re: #256 Occasional Reader

God does not exist.

Discuss.

*thunderbolt from heaven strikes OR*

Don’t anger the gods…you’ll be thorry.

272 JustABill  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:23:29pm

re: #247 doppelganglander

What a great marketing idea - the first tranny doll for children! You guys could make a fortune.

From what I heard, that probably fit right in with what the creators intended…

273 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:23:33pm

re: #267 taxfreekiller

Dear California Property Owners,

All is not lost, agreed your property has lost 1/2 or more in value, your loan is 25% higher than the current unlikely sale price, ya and the commission thing, the cost of the sale and ya, like you have to move 3 hours from work if you buy back in at a reasonable payment, but, but,

there is Direct TV you will not miss one Obama speech.

I don’t care about the speeches. I just need to make sure I can still watch American Idol.
/// *spit*

274 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:24:20pm

re: #261 Occasional Reader

Maybe it’s you. What kind of mushrooms did you put in that omelette?

re: #263 LGoPs

H———o———-w————-a————b———o——u—- —-t———n———o———-w. I———-s———t———h———a———t————f—— —-a———s———-t———e———-r————?

Well, that didn’t help. It’s still slow and now I am pissed :)

275 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:24:49pm
276 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:24:49pm

re: #266 buzzsawmonkey

There was an exhibit making the rounds in the last few years—it was in New York for quite a while, and may still be touring—that consisted of human corpses that had been subjected to a plasticizing process. You could see the musculature, the internal organs, etc.; the whole thing was like one of those old Visible Man figures except made of genuine dead Chinese.

I refused to go to it, thank you.

I saw pictures…quite amazing actually

277 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:24:52pm

re: #265 vxbush

Okay. I have tried to be productive today, but forget it. I’m being blocked at every turn; everything is either broken or inaccessible; and I just don’t care this late in the day.

[pulls up a chair, puts up the feet]

So I’m starting my Fourth now.

Sounds like a plan.

278 KenJen  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:25:10pm

I don’t know how to link to it but has anyone seen the bagleheads on the front page on AOL. In the middle of the page. Gross.

279 Bear  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:25:58pm

TFK #267 You forgot that if the home owner is no longer a Calif resident they will have to pay any Capital Tax due before the sale may be made.

280 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:26:35pm

re: #256 Occasional Reader

Winding down here toward the weekend.

[yawn]

Okay, let’s see:

God does not exist.

Discuss.


OR does not exist.
- God

Rejoice.

/ *just kidding*

281 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:26:37pm

re: #268 JustABill

I had an odd experience similar to that several years ago. I had a pretty bad cold and blew my nose. All of a sudden the room started spinning. At the time, I was alone in my apartment I managed to sit down before I fell down.

So now I am sitting there thinking I am having a stroke or something and I need to get to a phone to dial 911. I am trying to figure out how to get to the phone without falling. After a minute or two I hear a squeaking sound from my ear as the pressure I had put on my ear by blowing my nose balances itself out. A couple seconds later I was back to normal. A very odd and scary experience…

Yikes! Glad it passed quickly.

282 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:26:49pm

re: #266 buzzsawmonkey

There was an exhibit making the rounds in the last few years—

Ah, sure. “Bodies”. I thought you referring to some more recent link.

Indeed, I could not see the attraction of the thing. And I don’t think it says good things about our culture that we have forgotten how to respect the dead.

283 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:27:10pm

re: #269 albusteve

my PC is flying along at top speed no matter page size…but it’s weird because I’ve recently noticed a couple of favorite site that have slowed to a stall…the Cowboy home page is extremely slow for example, and only recently…there is a conspiracy afoot….Paulians are my first guess

If it’s not actually the LGF server, then it’s got to be one of the ad sources that Charles uses, which could account for other web sites, who get pushed ads from the same source, to slow down.

284 opnion  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:27:20pm

re: #246 irish rose

She should have them.

Jacksons’ family puts the “d” in dysfunctional… the parents did a crap job raising the first set of kids, they were all messed up psychologically and emotionally. They have no absolutely business trying to raise their their grandkids.

It’s totally gaggifying to have to watch MJ’s parents and siblings circling around like vultures before he’s even buried.

Someone needs to step in and have these kids moved into a stable (read: nondysfuctional) home. And that doesn’t necessarily mean the home that has the most money, the best nannies that money can buy and the priciest bedroom furniture.

Wait, this woman tried to sell the kids to Michael & she renounced custody.
Right after his death she said that taking care of the kids would take time away from caring for her horses. She is no bargain.

285 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:27:23pm

re: #277 reine.de.tout

Sounds like a plan.

Well, I did get the server room cleaned up a bit and got lots of things labelled that hadn’t been before. That’s an improvement. But this new server is just not playing nice and I’m leaving it alone until Monday.

286 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:27:54pm

re: #255 buzzsawmonkey

But if his body is subjected to that Chinese Corpse Plasticizing Process, motorized, and fitted with a microphone, he can remain the King of Pop indefinitely.

I read that the guy who stuffed his chimp offered to preserve Michael, as well.

287 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:28:13pm

re: #282 Occasional Reader

Ah, sure. “Bodies”. I thought you referring to some more recent link.

Indeed, I could not see the attraction of the thing. And I don’t think it says good things about our culture that we have forgotten how to respect the dead.

There was actually a pretty decent German horror movie based on the process used in the “Bodies” exhibit.

288 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:29:09pm

re: #282 Occasional Reader

Ah, sure. “Bodies”. I thought you referring to some more recent link.

Indeed, I could not see the attraction of the thing. And I don’t think it says good things about our culture that we have forgotten how to respect the dead.

Gray’s Anatomy was good enough for me.

289 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:29:12pm
290 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:29:14pm

re: #275 Killgore Trout

ADL reissues its Tea Party Warning…..
White Supremacists May Attempt To Co-Opt July 4 “Tea Parties” To Promote A Hateful Agenda

This is good news. The Tea Parties are becoming aware of the problem and trying to police it.

Good, good, good.

291 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:29:48pm

re: #283 Walter L. Newton

If it’s not actually the LGF server, then it’s got to be one of the ad sources that Charles uses, which could account for other web sites, who get pushed ads from the same source, to slow down.

don’t know…slowdowns are very frustrating…I’m on Firefox with 4 megs of memory and have had top quality service with Comcast…but something is fishy elsewhere…it’s over my head

292 Buster  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:30:00pm

re: #250 Occasional Reader

Please, no more Michael Jackson. Please. He’d dead. He’s still dead. He will continue being dead.

You will not get your wish…in months it will fade, but it will never go away, there are still Elvis sightings to this day after all. And he is still dead.

293 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:30:09pm

re: #224 Occasional Reader

Or, apparently there’s a design defect with the pitot tubes on Airbus planes and they’ve had issues before. That’s looking like it’s the suspected cause of the crash, though other possibilities can’t totally be ruled out (investigators say there’s no sign of explosives residue or fire on the parts recovered so far).

294 Lincolntf  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:30:36pm

re: #266 buzzsawmonkey

I worked at a bookstore back in the ealy Nineties, and a book came in that was a comprised of very detailed photos of a corpse sliced lengthwise into wicked thin layers, like lunchmeat. Pretty gruesome if I remember correctly.

295 JustABill  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:30:38pm

re: #281 scottishbuzzsaw

Yikes! Glad it passed quickly.

Yea, once I had a chance to think about it, it made sence. The nerves in the ear control balance. Presure on the wrong nerves in there and there goes your balance. The pressure goes away and everythings ok. I don’t recall feeling my ears pop when I blew my nose, but given the frame of mind I was in at the time, pressure on the ears was the last thing I was thinking about…

296 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:31:13pm
297 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:31:17pm
298 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:31:32pm

re: #289 buzzsawmonkey

Not to mention the ever-popular “House of Wax.”

Lenin’s tomb?….wasn’t he dipped in wax or whatever

299 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:31:34pm

re: #257 Walter L. Newton

I am telling you, LGF is slowing down for me. Killgore mentioned this 2 days ago, and it has been happening to me for about a day and a half.

It’s not my computer, it’s not my browser, all other websites are fine, fast and no delays.

I have the highest speed Comcast offers over cable.

It appears that it’s graphics coming from LGF server is slowing things down. I can have a page render here, and I still see avatars coming in. Right now the message at the bottom of the page is (I use Safari) completed 250 of 253 items, meaning three elements of this page won’t load.

Something is wrong, and it’s not on my side.

Walter…You know how to ping for response times and do a trace route right?

300 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:31:35pm

Woot! Starting my 4th.
Later, {lizards}

Y’all have a big one!

301 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:32:01pm

re: #266 buzzsawmonkey

There was an exhibit making the rounds in the last few years—it was in New York for quite a while, and may still be touring—that consisted of human corpses that had been subjected to a plasticizing process. You could see the musculature, the internal organs, etc.; the whole thing was like one of those old Visible Man figures except made of genuine dead Chinese.

I refused to go to it, thank you.

There are two similar exhibitions. One, as you said, was made with Chinese people, many of whom were thought to be political prisoners. The other, which I saw at the California Science Center in 2005, was made using individuals who consented and donated their bodies for that purpose. There were signs in the exhibit explaining where the bodies came from. It was actually fascinating and not as gross as I expected.

302 KenJen  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:32:07pm

re: #294 Lincolntf

I worked at a bookstore back in the ealy Nineties, and a book came in that was a comprised of very detailed photos of a corpse sliced lengthwise into wicked thin layers, like lunchmeat. Pretty gruesome if I remember correctly.

Just another reason I don’t eat lunchmeat.

303 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:32:18pm

re: #284 opnion

Wait, this woman tried to sell the kids to Michael & she renounced custody.
Right after his death she said that taking care of the kids would take time away from caring for her horses. She is no bargain.

i don’t think she is a bargain either. and she may not even be the biological mother, just the surrogate. there should be a DNA test on her. she gave them up so easily and quickly to him w/ no visitation rights after they “divorced.”
i’m not sure she wants custody of the children or custody of the money, they will bring.
i feel so bad for those kids.

304 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:32:24pm

re: #300 redstateredneck

Woot! Starting my 4th.
Later, {lizards}

Y’all have a big one!

I congratulate you on your independence.
:)

305 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:32:28pm

re: #292 Buster

You will not get your wish…in months it will fade, but it will never go away, there are still Elvis sightings to this day after all. And he is still dead.

He’s not dead. He went home. /K

306 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:33:17pm

re: #294 Lincolntf

I worked at a bookstore back in the ealy Nineties, and a book came in that was a comprised of very detailed photos of a corpse sliced lengthwise into wicked thin layers, like lunchmeat. Pretty gruesome if I remember correctly.

in medical school we chopped up lots of dead people for practice…they all had names and contrived personalities…

jus kidding

307 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:33:35pm

re: #288 vxbush

Gray’s Anatomy was good enough for me.

I really hope in my heart you get feeling better….
Kind Regards

308 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:34:08pm

re: #305 lawhawk

He’s not dead. He went home. /K

[insert dead parrot sketch, with “parrot” replaced with “Jackson”—but not entered actually to attempt to give the dead some peace]

309 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:34:31pm

re: #257 Walter L. Newton

I am telling you, LGF is slowing down for me. Killgore mentioned this 2 days ago, and it has been happening to me for about a day and a half.

It’s not my computer, it’s not my browser, all other websites are fine, fast and no delays.

I have the highest speed Comcast offers over cable.

It appears that it’s graphics coming from LGF server is slowing things down. I can have a page render here, and I still see avatars coming in. Right now the message at the bottom of the page is (I use Safari) completed 250 of 253 items, meaning three elements of this page won’t load.

Something is wrong, and it’s not on my side.

I’ve been having MASSIVE issues with LGF over the past couple months, man.

310 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:34:59pm

re: #307 HoosierHoops

I really hope in my heart you get feeling better….
Kind Regards

{HH}

Thanks, sir. Who knows. Maybe I am hypoglycemic. But you would think that sugar would make me feel a little better then. No dice. I get a tiny “poof” of energy, but I don’t feel good.

311 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:35:20pm

re: #283 Walter L. Newton

If it’s not actually the LGF server, then it’s got to be one of the ad sources that Charles uses, which could account for other web sites, who get pushed ads from the same source, to slow down.

And that could explain why I don’t see it, as I use NoScript that blocks many of the worst offender ads.

312 Miss Trixie  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:36:16pm

Herro lizards!

313 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:36:27pm

re: #299 HoosierHoops

Walter…You know how to ping for response times and do a trace route right?

Yea. How do I get the IP. Whois only shows me the registar info.

314 Kronocide  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:36:42pm

CNN Situation room on, MJ story with interview of his vocal coach about his video production and relative health two days before his death: channel changed. This is Entertainment Tonight stuff folks.

315 Buster  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:36:46pm

re: #305 lawhawk

He’s not dead. He went home. /K

The same thought occurred to me just after I posted. Michael is probably having coffee with the twins at this moment.

316 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:37:12pm

re: #313 Walter L. Newton

Yea. How do I get the IP. Whois only shows me the registar info.

Try dig. Oh, but you’re on XP or Vista, right? I think dig still works.

317 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:37:35pm

Well, I certainly expect the MSM to scream and scourge themselves over this:

Obama Administration to Involve NSA in Defending Civilian Agency Networks

The Obama administration will proceed with a Bush-era plan to use National Security Agency assistance in screening government computer traffic on private-sector networks, with AT&T as the likely test site, according to three current and former government officials.

President Obama said in May that government efforts to protect computer systems from attack would not involve “monitoring private sector networks or Internet traffic” and Department of Homeland Security officials say that the new program will only scrutinize data going to or from government systems.

HE’S JUST LIKE CHIMPY BUSHITLER!

/

318 rightside  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:37:53pm

re: #300 redstateredneck

Woot! Starting my 4th.
Later, {lizards}

Y’all have a big one!

How did you know?

////

319 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:38:27pm

re: #317 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Well, I certainly expect the MSM to scream and scourge themselves over this:

Obama Administration to Involve NSA in Defending Civilian Agency Networks

HE’S JUST LIKE CHIMPY BUSHITLER!

/

Don’t forget Echelon. Goes back to the Clinton era.

320 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:38:30pm

re: #314 BigPapa

CNN Situation room on, MJ story with interview of his vocal coach about his video production and relative health two days before his death: channel changed. This is Entertainment Tonight stuff folks.

Well, its not like anything else important is going on in the world, right?

321 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:39:00pm

I really like the colors in this pic.

322 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:39:02pm

re: #306 albusteve

in medical school we chopped up lots of dead people for practice…they all had names and contrived personalities…

jus kidding

My family doctor was pushing me to go to med school. He came close to guaranteeing me he could get me into Tufts (I had good grades and test scores, so I was certainly qualified); I guess he gave them a lot of money.
When I said how medical stuff makes me nauseous, he said that I’d get used to it. When they started anatomy class and uncovered the cadaver, people passed out, but by the end, they were eating a sandwich with one hand and cutting the corpse with another.
I hope they remembered what was in each hand.

323 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:39:06pm

re: #320 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Well, its not like anything else important is going on in the world, right?

My hangnail should be national news.

324 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:39:17pm

Perhaps 59 fluid ounces of fresh lime-ade is a bit too much in one sitting.

325 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:39:51pm

re: #312 Miss Trixie

Herro lizards!

Herro back! Harrerujah! Grad you’re here before it’s too rate.

326 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:40:01pm

re: #324 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Perhaps 59 fluid ounces of fresh lime-ade is a bit too much in one sitting.

Ah, but what about 59 ounces of dark chocolate? That’s just a good start!

327 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:40:13pm

legal prostitution

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

328 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:40:45pm

For all the Lizards suffering from excessive summer heat, here’s a spot of winter to cool you down. Tuckerman’s Ravine (June 27)

Current temperature on the summit: 45.8°F Wind Chill: 35.7°F

My kind of place to spend the summer!

Have a Happy Fourth, Lizard Clan!

329 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:40:52pm

re: #327 albusteve

legal prostitution

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

330 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:41:10pm

re: #322 Kosh’s Shadow

My family doctor was pushing me to go to med school. He came close to guaranteeing me he could get me into Tufts (I had good grades and test scores, so I was certainly qualified); I guess he gave them a lot of money.
When I said how medical stuff makes me nauseous, he said that I’d get used to it. When they started anatomy class and uncovered the cadaver, people passed out, but by the end, they were eating a sandwich with one hand and cutting the corpse with another.
I hope they remembered what was in each hand.

My daughter is in her final year of nursing school. I forgot to ask if she has to take a gross anatomy class.

331 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:41:16pm

re: #329 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

My post got ate.

332 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:41:17pm
333 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:41:17pm

re: #316 vxbush

Try dig. Oh, but you’re on XP or Vista, right? I think dig still works.

How do I even get a DOS window anymore. I’m on XP, shit, I haven’t had to run a dos window in years. Don’t I need a dos window to run ping?

334 rightside  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:41:19pm

re: #328 scottishbuzzsaw

You too!

335 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:41:58pm

re: #310 vxbush

{HH}

Thanks, sir. Who knows. Maybe I am hypoglycemic. But you would think that sugar would make me feel a little better then. No dice. I get a tiny “poof” of energy, but I don’t feel good.

I know nothing about that maybe Webmd website?… But I know this
********************************
When a dear Lizard is suffering or sick
This community cares….
Some say prayers….
other lizards worry…..
some post encouraging words and well wishes….
But we all care….
********************************

336 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:42:02pm
337 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:42:02pm

re: #330 Alouette

My daughter is in her final year of nursing school. I forgot to ask if she has to take a gross anatomy class.

I don’t think nurses do, but I could be mistaken. The nursing program at the local university doesn’t have gross anatomy classes. But they do have anatomy.

338 Miss Trixie  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:42:27pm

re: #318 rightside

How did you know?

////

You owe me a new keyboard, mister.

*snort*

339 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:42:30pm

Well folks, it’s time to hit the dusty trail. I hope y’all have a great 4th of July, and see you after the weekend!

Be safe, y’all!

340 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:42:43pm

re: #313 Walter L. Newton

Yea. How do I get the IP. Whois only shows me the registar info.

hold on a sec..

341 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:42:55pm

re: #333 Walter L. Newton

How do I even get a DOS window anymore. I’m on XP, shit, I haven’t had to run a dos window in years. Don’t I need a dos window to run ping?

Yes. Click Start > Run, and enter “cmd” (no quotes) in the box that appears. That will bring up a DOS window. Then you can run

dig

and it should come back with the IP address and who gave it to you.

342 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:43:22pm

re: #341 vxbush

Yes. Click Start > Run, and enter “cmd” (no quotes) in the box that appears. That will bring up a DOS window. Then you can run

dig

and it should come back with the IP address and who gave it to you.

Hoosier, am I right? Is dig built into XP?

343 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:43:40pm

re: #255 buzzsawmonkey

But if his body is subjected to that Chinese Corpse Plasticizing Process, motorized, and fitted with a microphone, he can remain the King of Pop indefinitely.

I thought that had been done years ago.

344 irish rose  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:43:49pm

re: #250 Occasional Reader

Please, no more Michael Jackson. Please. He’d dead. He’s still dead. He will continue being dead.

It’s still news.
Bizarre news, granted, but its’ still news.

345 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:44:07pm

re: #322 Kosh’s Shadow

My family doctor was pushing me to go to med school. He came close to guaranteeing me he could get me into Tufts (I had good grades and test scores, so I was certainly qualified); I guess he gave them a lot of money.
When I said how medical stuff makes me nauseous, he said that I’d get used to it. When they started anatomy class and uncovered the cadaver, people passed out, but by the end, they were eating a sandwich with one hand and cutting the corpse with another.
I hope they remembered what was in each hand.

the mind is a wonderful organ…’dead’ is a conceptual thing…live people opened up can be sort of creepy too

346 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:44:13pm

Duh, do

ping [hostname]

or

dig [hostname]

can’t use greater than or less than in posts…..

347 JustABill  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:44:21pm

re: #333 Walter L. Newton

How do I even get a DOS window anymore. I’m on XP, shit, I haven’t had to run a dos window in years. Don’t I need a dos window to run ping?

Start > Run then type “cmd” usually works.

348 Miss Trixie  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:44:29pm

re: #330 Alouette

My daughter is in her final year of nursing school.

Good for her! I had to drop out because I ran out of milk … :P

349 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:44:35pm

re: #333 Walter L. Newton

How do I even get a DOS window anymore. I’m on XP, shit, I haven’t had to run a dos window in years. Don’t I need a dos window to run ping?

StartRunCMD

350 CommonCents  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:44:45pm

re: #312 Miss Trixie

Herro lizards!

Teeth out? or Chinese?

351 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:45:01pm

It ate my back slashes

352 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:45:10pm
353 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:45:16pm

re: #299 HoosierHoops

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:Documents and SettingsOwner>ping littlegreenfootballs.com

Pinging littlegreenfootballs.com [74.86.198.236] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 74.86.198.236: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=55
Reply from 74.86.198.236: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=55
Reply from 74.86.198.236: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=55
Reply from 74.86.198.236: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=55

Ping statistics for 74.86.198.236:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 27ms, Maximum = 27ms, Average = 27ms

See, ping time is FINE. It’s something else coming in with a page from Charles that is slow, or something on my side doesn’t like something coming in from Charles, like an ad or a script or something. Maybe my firewall is blocking something or McAfee is scanning something or doesn’t like something coming down the pipe.

354 Miss Trixie  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:45:22pm

re: #325 LGoPs

Herro back! Harrerujah! Grad you’re here before it’s too rate.

Thankey and I`m glad to see you too! New avatar BTW. :D

355 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:45:50pm

re: #333 Walter L. Newton

How do I even get a DOS window anymore. I’m on XP, shit, I haven’t had to run a dos window in years. Don’t I need a dos window to run ping?

here we go
goto start-run
type CMD
in the dos window type this:
tracert 74.86.198.236

We start from there

356 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:45:50pm

re: #344 irish rose

It’s still news.
Bizarre news, granted, but its’ still news.

Well, that’s a self-fulfilling prophecy sorta thing. It’s still news… because it’s still in the news.

357 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:47:01pm

re: #330 Alouette

My daughter is in her final year of nursing school. I forgot to ask if she has to take a gross anatomy class.

probably as a pre req….and considerable physiology as well

358 snowcrash  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:47:03pm

re: #303 nyc redneck
Saw your comment about the party upthread. Nice. Looked for photos at Urban Infidel this am but nothing :( She who shall not be named but whose name rhymes with “Ham Seller” has good photo coverage as does another blog called Berman Post. I never know what blog is OK or not to link to, so google it.

359 opnion  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:47:38pm

re: #303 nyc redneck

i don’t think she is a bargain either. and she may not even be the biological mother, just the surrogate. there should be a DNA test on her. she gave them up so easily and quickly to him w/ no visitation rights after they “divorced.”
i’m not sure she wants custody of the children or custody of the money, they will bring.
i feel so bad for those kids.

Yup, there should be a DNA test on Debbie Rowe. These kids are in a real tough spot, Joe Jackson is a bully, maybe Grandma is the choice.

360 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:47:40pm

re: #355 HoosierHoops

here we go
goto start-run
type CMD
in the dos window type this:
tracert 74.86.198.236

We start from there

Sheesh….all *real* OSes use the whole name, traceroute. But no, Windows has to be *different*.

/

361 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:47:49pm

re: #313 Walter L. Newton

Yea. How do I get the IP. Whois only shows me the registar info.

The IP is in the PING results….

ping someurl.com

from a dos window

362 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:47:55pm

re: #353 Walter L. Newton

At 27msec this isn’t a network infrastructure issue

363 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:48:06pm

re: #353 Walter L. Newton

You can try using PRCView to see if a particular process is causing the problem. Its windows authorized software for diagnostic testing. Use it all the time at work and home.

364 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:48:14pm

Apache Takes Out Insurgent Mortar Team With A Hellfire Missile In Iraq

365 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:48:22pm

good LORD!…it’s self perpetuating!

366 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:48:28pm
367 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:49:01pm

re: #360 vxbush

Sheesh….all *real* OSes use the whole name, traceroute. But no, Windows has to be *different*.

/

Are you a UNIX girl? Admit it…..LOL

368 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:49:09pm

re: #362 HoosierHoops

At 27msec this isn’t a network infrastructure issue

I’m thinking it’s some of the Google ads, meself.

369 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:49:21pm

re: #355 HoosierHoops

See my re: #353 Walter L. Newton ping time is fine, like I say, every time I try to load a page from LGF, the message in the bottom activity bar in Safari shows 2 items not coming in… like “completed 445 of 447 items” and it never seems to get all 447 items or what ever the count would be on a certain page. I’m always “missing” two items. And it takes 20-30 seconds to pull new comments or post a comment.

370 Miss Trixie  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:49:38pm

re: #350 CommonCents

Teeth out? or Chinese?

That went right over my head.

371 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:49:41pm

re: #367 HoosierHoops

Are you a UNIX girl? Admit it…..LOL

Why do you think I love my Mac so much? One click, and I have a terminal! An HONEST TO GOD TERMINAL!

*sniff*

I love my Mac.

372 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:49:54pm

re: #335 HoosierHoops

You’re right- this community does care about our own.

VX- maybe it’s something else in your diet? I was having issues with fatigue for awhile. I altered my diet to cut our processed foods and added more organic foods to my diet, and I’m feeling much better. A lot of health issues come down to diet. Hope this helps. Take care of you.

373 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:51:40pm

re: #372 Sharmuta

You’re right- this community does care about our own.

VX- maybe it’s something else in your diet? I was having issues with fatigue for awhile. I altered my diet to cut our processed foods and added more organic foods to my diet, and I’m feeling much better. A lot of health issues come down to diet. Hope this helps. Take care of you.

You know, I had to cut out wheat (and tapioca, which is often used in gluten-free foods), and that helped a lot. But now I’m right back where I started.

My neck looks huge right now (to me anyway), and I’ve had some weird pains coming from the front, so I keep thinking it has to be my thyroid. We know I’ve got cysts in it. If the cysts have grown any, they may decide to do surgery.

374 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:52:15pm

OK…..it’s not as though I have an hard enough time keeping up w/the spy, but now I’m handicapping myself by typing w/one hand and delicately cluthching a model firetruck who;s wheel is drying in my other hand…


/and oh yes….this thread has no pier

375 JustABill  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:52:18pm

re: #366 buzzsawmonkey

If you don’t keep your grades up, you get bumped from phrenology.

Don’t let my upding go to your head…

376 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:52:29pm

re: #372 Sharmuta

You’re right- this community does care about our own.

VX- maybe it’s something else in your diet? I was having issues with fatigue for awhile. I altered my diet to cut our processed foods and added more organic foods to my diet, and I’m feeling much better. A lot of health issues come down to diet. Hope this helps. Take care of you.

Oh, and {Sharmuta}. I appreciate all the ideas and suggestions.

Of course, if one more doctor dares to suggest that I’m depressed, I may need to take them out back to the shed…..

377 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:52:40pm

re: #333 Walter L. Newton

How do I even get a DOS window anymore. I’m on XP, shit, I haven’t had to run a dos window in years. Don’t I need a dos window to run ping?

The easiest way is from Start: run
In the box type
cmd
and press Enter

378 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:54:24pm

Update: WaPo shuts down Salon idea


The flier circulated this morning came out of a business division for conferences and events, and the newsroom was unaware of such communication. It went out before it was properly vetted, and this draft does not represent what the company’s vision for these dinners are, which is meant to be an independent, policy-oriented event for newsmakers.

As written, the newsroom could not participate in an event like this.

We do believe there is an opportunity to have a conferences and events business, and that The Post should be leading these conversations in Washington, big or small, while maintaining journalistic integrity. The newsroom will participate where appropriate.

379 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:54:26pm

re: #371 vxbush

Why do you think I love my Mac so much? One click, and I have a terminal! An HONEST TO GOD TERMINAL!

*sniff*

I love my Mac.

My second computer was a Mac.. I love all things Mac….But I live in the PC world and have made a shitload of money because of Bill Gates…
It all came down to this:
Jobs: You can have a huge piece of a little pie or a small piece of a huge pie…
I prefer the later..Steve prefers the former…
I love Macs…

380 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:54:36pm

re: #373 vxbush

You know, I had to cut out wheat (and tapioca, which is often used in gluten-free foods), and that helped a lot. But now I’m right back where I started.

My neck looks huge right now (to me anyway), and I’ve had some weird pains coming from the front, so I keep thinking it has to be my thyroid. We know I’ve got cysts in it. If the cysts have grown any, they may decide to do surgery.

{ { {vx} } }

381 CommonCents  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:54:36pm

re: #370 Miss Trixie

That went right over my head.

The use of ‘r’ instead of ‘L’ in words like “hello” is occassionally used as a mockery of the waiter at a Chinese restaurant. That’s also how my grandmother talked without her false teeth in.

382 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:56:05pm

re: #366 buzzsawmonkey

If you don’t keep your grades up, you get bumped from phrenology.

that’s why you never see a Cone Head nurse

383 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:56:50pm

re: #364 Killgore Trout

Apache Takes Out Insurgent Mortar Team With A Hellfire Missile In Iraq

[Video]

expensive mortar team….

384 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:57:01pm

re: #381 CommonCents

The use of ‘r’ instead of ‘L’ in words like “hello” is occassionally used as a mockery of the waiter at a Chinese restaurant. That’s also how my grandmother talked without her false teeth in.

City Wok Guy from South Park did the voice of Kim Jong Il in the Team America movie. (I think that’s Trey Parker’s voice)

385 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:57:03pm

re: #186 reine.de.tout

I just went upstairs and changed into a long sleeve flannel shirt. I kid you not.

386 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:57:38pm
387 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:57:39pm

re: #188 redstateredneck

I’ll save some mold for you.

388 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:58:22pm

re: #386 buzzsawmonkey

Mainly its in not giving a shirt about what people think.

389 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:58:37pm

re: #386 buzzsawmonkey

What is the secret of transfiguring into an article of clothing?

whatever it is, it deserves it’s own thread

390 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:58:53pm

my my…..the dow-jones sure didn’t like those most recent unemployment numbers, did they?

391 CommonCents  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:59:08pm

re: #384 Alouette

City Wok Guy from South Park did the voice of Kim Jong Il in the Team America movie. (I think that’s Trey Parker’s voice)

I love the “I’m so ronery” bit. That may be why he’s so angry and shooting off missiles. He finally got his copy of Team America off Netflix.

392 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:59:23pm

re: #378 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Update: WaPo shuts down Salon idea

The flier circulated this morning came out of a business division for conferences and events, and the newsroom was unaware of such communication. It went out before it was properly vetted, and this draft does not represent what the company’s vision for these dinners are, which is meant to be an independent, policy-oriented event for newsmakers.
As written, the newsroom could not participate in an event like this.

We do believe there is an opportunity to have a conferences and events business, and that The Post should be leading these conversations in Washington, big or small, while maintaining journalistic integrity. The newsroom will participate where appropriate.

They fucked up because it was made public. Even the half asleep sheep out there watching American Idol might wake up to this level of blatancy. Much better to do this sort of thing secretly……
/

393 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:59:50pm
394 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:00:17pm

re: #381 CommonCents

The use of ‘r’ instead of ‘L’ in words like “hello” is occassionally used as a mockery of the waiter at a Chinese restaurant. That’s also how my grandmother talked without her false teeth in.

Anyone else ever hear the story about the word lollipop being the most used challenge and response password during the Pacific campaign because the Japanese couldn’t pronounce it without giving themselves away?

395 JustABill  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:00:18pm

re: #390 Fenway_Nation

my my…..the dow-jones sure didn’t like those most recent unemployment numbers, did they?

Good thing the stimulus passed, otherwise the Unemployment rate would be 8%.

/hopefully this slash is not necessary…

396 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:00:22pm

re: #391 CommonCents

I love the “I’m so ronery” bit. That may be why he’s so angry and shooting off missiles. He finally got his copy of Team America off Netflix.

They are raughing and chuckring at me………
/

397 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:00:58pm

re: #379 HoosierHoops

I run Macs with Gatesware under Parallels. Works quite well. Also lets me play other stuff if I feel like it. OSX under OSX if I want to experiment with something.

398 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:01:31pm

re: #389 albusteve

stop button into the conversation, ya hear.

399 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:02:01pm

re: #394 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Anyone else ever hear the story about the word lollipop being the most used challenge and response password during the Pacific campaign because the Japanese couldn’t pronounce it without giving themselves away?

That and Hallelujah. As a matter of fact there was a night on one of the Pacific Islands that went down in history as “Hallelujah Night’ with all the challenges and passwords being given.

400 Lincolntf  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:02:23pm

re: #378 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

My guess is that the only change is going to be no more blast e-mails.
The “business division” got word out in a big way what they’re willing to do. Now they just have to wait for their Blackberries to chirp.

401 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:02:23pm

re: #397 Shr_Nfr

I run Macs with Gatesware under Parallels. Works quite well. Also lets me play other stuff if I feel like it. OSX under OSX if I want to experiment with something.

Personally, I’d love to get a Dell Mini S9 so I can hack Leopard to run on it. :D

402 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:02:26pm

that’s it…95 in ABQ…swamp cooler to the rescue

403 CommonCents  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:02:42pm

re: #393 buzzsawmonkey

Netfrix.

Rhymes with “Hans Brix.”

ROR! That’s funny.

404 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:03:03pm

re: #398 Shr_Nfr

stop button into the conversation, ya hear.

why’d ya cuff me?

405 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:03:05pm

re: #379 HoosierHoops

Ok, ping timing, as you can see is great. I got that process viewer that was recommended by someone above, I see no rogue processes or any processes hogging the CPU time.

I suspect it has to be…

1) My firewall and/or virus software is bothered by something trying to come down the pipe. But why just LGF. No other problems anywhere, any site, and video stream, not speed problems at all. If it was an ad server problem, then everyone should be having the same problem.

Only LGF.

406 solomonpanting  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:03:19pm

SC 1st lady says she may forgive husband’s affair

I hope she knows what she’s doing.

407 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:03:31pm

re: #395 JustABill

Strange day. There has been a lot of the tail wagging the dog lately with quants doing program trades. On top of that its the day before a 3 day holiday and people bug out early.

408 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:03:47pm

re: #397 Shr_Nfr

I run Macs with Gatesware under Parallels. Works quite well. Also lets me play other stuff if I feel like it. OSX under OSX if I want to experiment with something.

Dude.. I saw the movie 21 last night about MIT and the kids that gambled at Vegas…Fun movie..true story…
You MIT prof’s are frigging smart…..
Do you gamble?
/

409 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:03:51pm

re: #198 Nevergiveup

Loud Sex Leads to Assault Charge for Four Teens, Police Say
Thursday, July 02, 2009
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TORRINGTON, Conn. — Police say a Connecticut girl overheard her mother’s screams during sex and thought she was being assaulted, so she rounded up some friends to attack the woman’s companion.

The 16-year-old girl, two boys and a 19-year-old man were arrested Tuesday and arraigned Wednesday on assault and conspiracy charges.

According to Torrington police and the woman, the girl thought her mother was being attacked on June 6. Police say the teens went into the bedroom and beat the mother’s 25-year-old companion with a baseball bat and punched him. The man, Roger Swanson of Torrington, says he suffered a black eye and several bruises.

The woman, Melanie Arnold, denies she screamed. She tells The Associated Press her daughter heard a slap and thought it was an assault.

Ya can’t make this stuff up?

Well…her motivations seem to have been good. Oh dear.

410 CommonCents  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:04:15pm

re: #406 solomonpanting

SC 1st lady says she may forgive husband’s affair

I hope she knows what she’s doing.

The affair only did what affair’s do. It’s the husband who is in trouble.
/

411 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:04:39pm

re: #405 Walter L. Newton

Ok, ping timing, as you can see is great. I got that process viewer that was recommended by someone above, I see no rogue processes or any processes hogging the CPU time.

I suspect it has to be…

1) My firewall and/or virus software is bothered by something trying to come down the pipe. But why just LGF. No other problems anywhere, any site, and video stream, not speed problems at all. If it was an ad server problem, then everyone should be having the same problem.

Only LGF.


well then, obviously you are being punished for some infraction

412 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:04:58pm

UN expert says Israeli seizure of aid ship a crime

Richard Falk, the United Nations special rapporteur on human rights in the Palestinian territories, said the move was part of Israel’s “cruel blockade of the entire Palestinian population of Gaza” in violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention prohibiting any form of collective punishment against “an occupied people”.

Falk, an American expert on international law, said Israel’s two-year blockade of Hamas-ruled Gaza restricted vital supplies such as food, medicine and fuel to “bare subsistence levels”.

The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) said in a report this week that Israel was also halting entry to Gaza of building materials and spare parts needed to repair damage from its 22-day invasion late last December.

“Such a pattern of continuing blockade under these conditions amounts to such a serious violation of the Geneva Conventions as to constitute a continuing crime against humanity,” Falk said in a statement released in Geneva.

I wonder if Dick’s opinion would change if his neighborhood had to worry about rocket attacks, snipers and bombings.

413 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:05:32pm

re: #397 Shr_Nfr

I run Macs with Gatesware under Parallels. Works quite well. Also lets me play other stuff if I feel like it. OSX under OSX if I want to experiment with something.

Parallels 4 is a nice improvement over 3. It lets you access USB devices from the virtual machine. And it works with Fedora

414 opnion  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:05:42pm

re: #406 solomonpanting

SC 1st lady says she may forgive husband’s affair

I hope she knows what she’s doing.


He’ll do it again, maybe not with the woman from Argentina, but he’ll do it again. The guys head is all fouled up.

415 JustABill  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:06:21pm

re: #407 Shr_Nfr

Strange day. There has been a lot of the tail wagging the dog lately with quants doing program trades. On top of that its the day before a 3 day holiday and people bug out early.

Hows the volume? If all the pros have gone home, you might get a low volume/high price move day that corrects when the everyone start paying attention to the market again…

416 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:06:25pm

re: #411 albusteve

well then, obviously you are being punished for some infraction

You know Steve, I thought of that, and it’s a real simple matter to effect that sort of behavior.

417 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:07:02pm

Happy Independence Day! I am off like a herd of birds. (For now.)

418 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:07:25pm

Since somebody mentioned the NY Tea Party upthread (along with a lot of Killgore bashing) I think I’ll go ahead and post this fine example of economic ignorance…..
KT McFarland at the NYC Tea Party

We are not borrowing money from the Chinese. The Chinese are investing in US TREASURY SECURITIES because they are a good safe investment. They cannot make demands and blackmail us because “we owe” them.
You’d think a movement based on fiscal responsibility could get a few basic facts correct about economics.

419 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:08:23pm

re: #411 albusteve

well then, obviously you are being punished for some infraction

Something is up. Amazon, Ebay, both sites with massive elements on a page, rendered in a second.

420 solomonpanting  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:08:31pm

re: #414 opnion

He’ll do it again, maybe not with the woman from Argentina, but he’ll do it again. The guys head is all fouled up.

I tend to agree. He seems to be a serial affair aficionado.

421 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:08:53pm

re: #292 Buster

You will not get your wish…in months it will fade, but it will never go away, there are still Elvis sightings to this day after all. And he is still dead.

No, he’s in a nursing home in Texas with JFK, who is now black. Didn’t you watch “Bubba-Ho-Tep”?

422 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:09:03pm

re: #412 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

UN expert says Israeli seizure of aid ship a crime

I wonder if Dick’s opinion would change if his neighborhood had to worry about rocket attacks, snipers and bombings.

Seriously, Israel should take back Gaza. No other country would put up with that shit. And if the Russians complained, tell them “next time, we’ll do to them what you did to Chechnya.”

423 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:09:05pm

re: #419 Walter L. Newton

Something is up. Amazon, Ebay, both sites with massive elements on a page, rendered in a second.

Last comment I left, to you, 23 seconds to post and return.

424 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:09:07pm

re: #416 Walter L. Newton

You know Steve, I thought of that, and it’s a real simple matter to effect that sort of behavior.

I know…once I logged on and my account was blocked…I think your safe really

425 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:09:36pm

re: #405 Walter L. Newton

Ok, ping timing, as you can see is great. I got that process viewer that was recommended by someone above, I see no rogue processes or any processes hogging the CPU time.

I suspect it has to be…

1) My firewall and/or virus software is bothered by something trying to come down the pipe. But why just LGF. No other problems anywhere, any site, and video stream, not speed problems at all. If it was an ad server problem, then everyone should be having the same problem.

Only LGF.


You are right…If it isn’t a process issue It is probably a code load issue..
What about Malware? I see that shit everyday on the net…I’ve seen Malware slow down only popular sites and esp. Sharepoint security sites
because of the registry secure.x beehives in the registry….
what are you using for Malware?

426 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:10:03pm

re: #418 Killgore Trout


You’d think a movement based on fiscal responsibility could get a few basic facts correct about economics.

You’d also think those in charge would have a few basic facts correct about economics, but I guess it doesn’t quite always work out that way.

427 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:10:16pm

re: #419 Walter L. Newton

Something is up. Amazon, Ebay, both sites with massive elements on a page, rendered in a second.

Walter, I had a problem with LGF some time ago that ended up being related to my antivirus software settings. You might try temporarily disabling your AV software to see if the page loads completely. If it does, there may be some settings in there causing the problem.

428 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:11:04pm

re: #413 Kosh’s Shadow

Parallels 4 is a nice improvement over 3. It lets you access USB devices from the virtual machine. And it works with Fedora

You can do it with version 3, but you have to get the version that includes the USB code fix. I needed that in order to get Neat Receipts to work properly.

429 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:11:09pm

re: #425 HoosierHoops

You are right…If it isn’t a process issue It is probably a code load issue..
What about Malware? I see that shit everyday on the net…I’ve seen Malware slow down only popular sites and esp. Sharepoint security sites
because of the registry secure.x beehives in the registry….
what are you using for Malware?

my guess, but I don’t know how to describe it…somebody has Walters number…would a registry check help?…I run mine every night

430 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:11:18pm

re: #359 opnion

Yup, there should be a DNA test on Debbie Rowe. These kids are in a real tough spot, Joe Jackson is a bully, maybe Grandma is the choice.

Grandma is 79, though.

431 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:11:50pm

re: #418 Killgore Trout

Since somebody mentioned the NY Tea Party upthread (along with a lot of Killgore bashing) I think I’ll go ahead and post this fine example of economic ignorance…..
KT McFarland at the NYC Tea Party


[Video]We are not borrowing money from the Chinese. The Chinese are investing in US TREASURY SECURITIES because they are a good safe investment. They cannot make demands and blackmail us because “we owe” them.
You’d think a movement based on fiscal responsibility could get a few basic facts correct about economics.

The problem is, we need them to keep lending us money. If they stop, the government has big problems. So if we make them unhappy, suddenly we can’t pay our bills.

432 opnion  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:11:52pm

re: #420 solomonpanting

I tend to agree. He seems to be a serial affair aficionado.

It’s the Middle Age crazies on overdrive. He nedd serious counseling.

433 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:12:06pm

re: #423 Walter L. Newton

Last comment I left, to you, 23 seconds to post and return.

Which browser are you using? Remind me.

434 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:12:28pm

re: #328 scottishbuzzsaw

I used to run the Mt. Washington Road Race. “The race with only one hill.” The biggest problem was that you had to be able to adapt to the temperatures as you went up. Its run on Father’s Day weekend. You can be 70 at the base and have sleet in your face at the top. My times sucked, but what the hell, I was doing it to race against me, not the guy that can pound out the 8 min miles all the way up. 7.2 miles of grunt it out. There were always pockets of snow still at the peak.

435 snowcrash  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:12:49pm

re: #418 Killgore Trout
Good link. Been looking for Tea Party NYC coverage.

436 opnion  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:12:54pm

re: #430 SanFranciscoZionist

Grandma is 79, though.

True, they need something a little more long term.

437 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:13:17pm

re: #425 HoosierHoops

You are right…If it isn’t a process issue It is probably a code load issue..
What about Malware? I see that shit everyday on the net…I’ve seen Malware slow down only popular sites and esp. Sharepoint security sites
because of the registry secure.x beehives in the registry….
what are you using for Malware?

Full blown MaAfee suite. Like I say, if it was Malware, I should see some indication of a problem on other sites, or the Malware doing it’s thing on my side.

438 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:14:08pm

re: #433 vxbush

Which browser are you using? Remind me.

Safari

439 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:14:17pm

re: #394 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Anyone else ever hear the story about the word lollipop being the most used challenge and response password during the Pacific campaign because the Japanese couldn’t pronounce it without giving themselves away?

I heard it was “lollapalooza”

440 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:14:28pm

re: #437 Walter L. Newton

Full blown MaAfee suite. Like I say, if it was Malware, I should see some indication of a problem on other sites, or the Malware doing it’s thing on my side.

Not if it’s McAfee itself that is causing the delay. But I’m grasping at straws, I admit.

441 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:14:36pm

re: #428 vxbush

You can do it with version 3, but you have to get the version that includes the USB code fix. I needed that in order to get Neat Receipts to work properly.

I thought I had the latest when V4 came out, and it didn’t work.
All the external drives on the Mac now show up as shared drives in Parallels, and when I plug something in to the USB port, it asks me if it should go to the VM or to Mac.
And my Fedora 9 installation works right after converting it. Well, mostly; it thinks the screen is bigger than it is, but that should be easy to fix.

442 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:14:50pm
443 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:14:52pm

re: #438 Walter L. Newton

Safari

Have you tried it with Firefox 3.5, out of curiosity?

444 aggieann  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:14:53pm

re: #386 buzzsawmonkey

What is the secret of transfiguring into an article of clothing?

Who gives a frock?

445 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:15:16pm

re: #429 albusteve

my guess, but I don’t know how to describe it…somebody has Walters number…would a registry check help?…I run mine every night

His log file on the firewall would have reported attacks against unopened ports…Most people cruise the net on port 80 or 8080.. Behind VPN usually port 443… The firewall reports on probes to other ports with incoming packets..

446 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:16:04pm

re: #437 Walter L. Newton

Full blown MaAfee suite. Like I say, if it was Malware, I should see some indication of a problem on other sites, or the Malware doing it’s thing on my side.

No problems with MacAfee on my Vista system. (Came with it; I use AVG generally)

447 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:16:20pm

re: #440 vxbush

Not if it’s McAfee itself that is causing the delay. But I’m grasping at straws, I admit.

He should turn off on demand scanning for a few minutes and check that out

448 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:16:22pm

re: #443 vxbush

Have you tried it with Firefox 3.5, out of curiosity?

When I get home, I need to download FF3.5 to see if it fixes the problem.

449 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:17:15pm

re: #421 SanFranciscoZionist

No, he’s in a nursing home in Texas with JFK, who is now black. Didn’t you watch “Bubba-Ho-Tep”?

Well, Michael Jackson turned white. The balance must be maintained.
/

450 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:17:22pm

re: #431 Kosh’s Shadow

The problem is, we need them to keep lending us money.


They are not lending us money.

451 Russkilitlover  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:19:10pm

Obama continues pressure on Honduras to reinstate exiled Pres…

Many Hondurans struggle to understand why foreign leaders, from U.S. President Barack Obama to most of Latin America’s presidents, have backed Zelaya.

So do we, my friend. So do we.

452 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:19:11pm

re: #445 HoosierHoops

His log file on the firewall would have reported attacks against unopened ports…Most people cruise the net on port 80 or 8080.. Behind VPN usually port 443… The firewall reports on probes to other ports with incoming packets..

hell, I don’t know what I’m talkin about…you probably make sense…weird stuff happens to me and I have no clue…it can be very frustrating, but you are a good resource obviously…my hard drive was so contaminated I had to replace it a few months ago…all new Kasperski security and a registry cleaner…so good so far…I have a geek buddy myself…total rebuild and more memory about 200$

453 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:19:26pm

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

W T F @ that first line?

454 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:19:33pm

Good afternoon all! Y’all ready for the weekend?

455 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:20:49pm

re: #450 Killgore Trout

They are not lending us money.

Many people would make the argument that buy our treasury bills is a form of lending us money. They certainly could stop buy our treasury bills and that could cause problems.

456 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:20:56pm

re: #453 TheMatrix31
Tweens=not quite teenagers yet

457 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:21:16pm

re: #454 pingjockey

Good afternoon all! Y’all ready for the weekend?

No. I haven’t figured out a substitute for graham crackers for my ‘smores. The entire weekend will fail if I can’t solve it!

/

458 Jack Burton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:21:17pm

re: #450 Killgore Trout

They are not lending us money.

Sales of treasury securities is a source of funds to the federal government. They have to be paid back at various times depending on the type of security. That is debt. Saying we are “borrowing money” from them is somewhat of an oversimplification of the process, but it is essentially true.

459 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:21:35pm

re: #450 Killgore Trout

They are not lending us money.

no, but in the end we need their dollars to continue to operate…they could pull the plug if they wanted

460 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:21:55pm

re: #408 HoosierHoops

Depends on what the word gamble means. In general the answer is no. Most of the time, the house has the odds stacked against you. However, I invest. I am off my peak, but still way, way ahead of the game. I retired at the end of 2001 with $X. I have taken around 1.5*X dollars in my draw since. I have 2.5*X+ dollars left. The ancient Egyptian thing is not a total accident. You have to be a study of psychology and history to invest along with knowing how companies and the law work. I am also a student of religion for the same reason. Reasonable Bible collection. People express their view of reality through their selection of religious beliefs. Student of early Christianity and Gnosticism. Mushed through a lot of Islamic rot too.

When you understand psychology and behavior, you can shave the dice a bit. Some rolls still come up snake eyes. But in general you can rise above the crowd. It also involves understanding yourself. Something a lot of folks have a hard time doing.

461 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:22:06pm

re: #457 vxbush
There is no substitute! You better find the graham crackers..Stat!

462 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:22:12pm

re: #447 HoosierHoops

He should turn off on demand scanning for a few minutes and check that out

I turned off firewall, all scanning, everything in McAfee, page still takes 20-23 seconds to render (and it is a consistent 20-23 seconds, only on LGF, using Safari, activity bar at bottom ALWAYS says “error 2 items.”

This does not make sense?

463 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:22:16pm

re: #454 pingjockey

Good afternoon all! Y’all ready for the weekend?

I’m trying I’m trying. Packing and making sure all the bills are paid and I can disappear for 11 days.

464 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:22:20pm

re: #456 pingjockey

Tweens=not quite teenagers yet

I know….just WTFing the “Finally, something that scares President Obama”

He’s not fucking invincible. Argh.

465 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:22:29pm

re: #452 albusteve

hell, I don’t know what I’m talkin about…you probably make sense…weird stuff happens to me and I have no clue…it can be very frustrating, but you are a good resource obviously…my hard drive was so contaminated I had to replace it a few months ago…all new Kasperski security and a registry cleaner…so good so far…I have a geek buddy myself…total rebuild and more memory about 200$

It’s always nice to have a geek friend.I’m more of a Network infrastructure guy… I work for a silly cone valley company…

466 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:23:15pm

re: #463 Nevergiveup
OOH! 11 days, nice!

467 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:23:25pm

re: #454 pingjockey

Good afternoon all! Y’all ready for the weekend?

BIG TIME!
/fireworks are legal here……Weeeeeeee

468 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:23:43pm
469 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:24:08pm

re: #461 pingjockey

There is no substitute! You better find the graham crackers..Stat!

Alas, looks like I’d have to go to the most expensive store in town to get them. Yikes.

470 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:24:22pm

re: #466 pingjockey

OOH! 11 days, nice!

Yeah I’m looking forward to it. Not exactly vacation-active duty-but it should be fun.

471 Buck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:24:30pm

re: #431 Kosh’s Shadow

The problem is, we need them to keep lending us money. If they stop, the government has big problems. So if we make them unhappy, suddenly we can’t pay our bills.

I think the opposite is true….

How many bills can we pay if we stop making our payments to the Chinese?

How much money will be saved if THEY do something to piss us off? Or to make our economy go into free fall?

I remain convinced they need us more than we need them. Or maybe we need each other more than anyone is willing to admit.

The point is, if I was China, I would not want NK (or anyone else) to hurt business.

472 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:24:50pm
473 A Kiwi Infidel  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:25:24pm

re: #468 Iron Fist

Whad do they think siege means? Maybe Israel should fling some diseased cattle swine over the Wall with catapults. Maybe then we’d see some progress.

Fixed, NOW we would see progress!

474 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:25:46pm

re: #464 TheMatrix31
I think he’s too naieve to be scared of anything. Which that right there is scary. Hmmm, maybe not scared, need another word, cautious, that is it. He isn’t cautious enough. Except when meddling with Central American countries that can’t do us any harm.

475 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:25:47pm

re: #468 Iron Fist

Whad do they think siege means? Maybe Israel should fling some diseased cattle over the Wall with catapults. Maybe then we’d see some progress.

Ever walk thru the Arab market and see all the meat hanging there with flies all over it. how would they tell the difference? Just saying.

476 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:25:56pm
477 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:26:15pm

re: #465 HoosierHoops

It’s always nice to have a geek friend.I’m more of a Network infrastructure guy… I work for a silly cone valley company…

when I was flush I’d pitch the whole thing and go buy a better PC…haha!…a fool and his money soon part…I tossed a perfectly good flat screen one time and bought a new one that didnt work either…I stumbled onto the fact I was plugging it back in to the wrong video port!….800$ turnaround…haha!…I swear I can be stupoid

478 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:26:18pm

re: #450 Killgore Trout

They are not lending us money.

Isn’t that what buying bonds is? They give us the money now, we pay back more later. That’s borrowing

479 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:26:19pm

re: #469 vxbush
That sucks.

480 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:26:31pm

re: #460 Shr_Nfr

Whoa..Sir..You need to post more….

481 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:27:23pm

re: #474 pingjockey

Cautious involves understanding the situation. Obama does not have a clue. Putin is going to eat him alive. Community Organizer vs KGB. A mismatch if I ever saw one.

482 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:27:46pm
483 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:27:52pm

re: #479 pingjockey

That sucks.

Not being able to eat wheat is really expensive at times. I make what I can from scratch, but it’s still not cheap.

484 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:27:54pm

re: #439 Alouette

I heard it was “lollapalooza”

No, it was rorraparooza……..
:)

485 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:28:06pm

Out of sheer boredom I am watching the Mets play the Pittsburgh Pirates. The Pirates have made some of the worst throws from the outfield I have ever seen.

486 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:28:14pm

re: #467 HoosierHoops
We are going to the reservation to get the Good Illegal Injun fireworks.

487 snowcrash  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:28:29pm

KT you do understand that United States Treasury bill, bond, or note is a government debt issued by the United States Department of the Treasury. Top Foreign holders of U.S. Treasuries is China for $767.9 Billion. If they decide not to buy our debt where will we get money? An example of the indirect power they wield and how it affects us is our attendance at the China Olympics. Money trumped human rights.

488 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:29:24pm

re: #486 pingjockey

We are going to the reservation to get the Good Illegal Injun fireworks.

Where is that?

489 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:29:51pm

re: #471 Buck

I think the opposite is true….

How many bills can we pay if we stop making our payments to the Chinese?

How much money will be saved if THEY do something to piss us off? Or to make our economy go into free fall?

I remain convinced they need us more than we need them. Or maybe we need each other more than anyone is willing to admit.

The point is, if I was China, I would not want NK (or anyone else) to hurt business.

If we stop paying back our bonds, we will not be able to sell bonds again, or not for a very long time. And that means to anyone.
It could have other ramifications in the financial system, but I’ll leave that to others.

490 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:30:04pm

re: #485 Nevergiveup

Out of sheer boredom I am watching the Mets play the Pittsburgh Pirates. The Pirates have made some of the worst throws from the outfield I have ever seen.

I thought our Navy Seals took those Pirates out.
/

491 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:30:18pm

Time to head home. Later, y’all.

492 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:30:20pm

re: #487 snowcrash

KT you do understand that United States Treasury bill, bond, or note is a government debt issued by the United States Department of the Treasury. Top Foreign holders of U.S. Treasuries is China for $767.9 Billion. If they decide not to buy our debt where will we get money? An example of the indirect power they wield and how it affects us is our attendance at the China Olympics. Money trumped human rights.

Money isn’t everything, it’s just way ahead of anything in 2nd place.

493 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:30:33pm

re: #475 Nevergiveup

Ever walk thru the Arab market and see all the meat hanging there with flies all over it. how would they tell the difference? Just saying.

What’s the most expensive cut of meat in Gaza?

Fly mignon.

494 A Kiwi Infidel  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:30:34pm

re: #491 vxbush

Time to head home. Later, y’all.


Later

495 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:31:19pm

re: #481 Shr_Nfr
True. I was thinking about myself and electricity aboard ship. If you are scared IT WILL bite you caution = respect. So you are right, he’s a goddamn naieve fool who will in all likelyhood get a bunch of people killed.

496 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:32:08pm
497 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:32:20pm

re: #486 pingjockey

We are going to the reservation to get the Good Illegal Injun fireworks.

These fucks in Indiana are crazy…I can for a hundred bucks make the backyard look like the effects from Apocalypse now.. Crazy…
/I love it

498 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:32:38pm

re: #488 Nevergiveup
Over by Oak Harbor Wa. The Indian reservations basically have no rules here in WA state over what fireworks they can sell. Well almost none.

499 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:33:06pm

re: #495 pingjockey

True. I was thinking about myself and electricity aboard ship. If you are scared IT WILL bite you caution = respect. So you are right, he’s a goddamn naieve fool who will in all likelyhood get a bunch of people killed.

that is a bet I’d take any day…fool is way to lenient a term…he’s an out of control ego maniac

500 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:33:45pm

re: #497 HoosierHoops
Washington state for me.

501 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:34:05pm

re: #498 pingjockey

Over by Oak Harbor Wa. The Indian reservations basically have no rules here in WA state over what fireworks they can sell. Well almost none.

Just be careful my friend

502 Kronocide  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:34:11pm

re: #467 HoosierHoops


/fireworks are legal here……Weeeeeeee

Fireworks is my fun job. This was a private barge show of 1059 shells.

I have a 300 ish shell show at the Four Seasons Hualalai on Saturday night. Be back to LGF after midnight!

503 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:34:46pm

re: #497 HoosierHoops

These fucks in Indiana are crazy…I can for a hundred bucks make the backyard look like the effects from Apocalypse now.. Crazy…
/I love it

we used to buzz down I-75 from Battle Creek and right there at the border was massive firepower…tube stock, 6 and 8 inchers…yowza

504 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:34:48pm

re: #498 pingjockey

Over by Oak Harbor Wa. The Indian reservations basically have no rules here in WA state over what fireworks they can sell. Well almost none.

Don’t the cops sit at the reservation border and stop people coming out to look for fireworks? That’s essentially what they do between Missouri and Iowa.

505 Kronocide  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:35:09pm

re: #467 HoosierHoops

Oh, and some fireworks are legal here too. To get the illegal good stuff…. I know a local cop who sells!

506 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:35:49pm

Washington Post Cancels Plans to Hold Costly Dinner for Lobbyists
The newspaper had circulated a flier offering lobbyists and organization executives a chance to meet with the Beltway insiders at the home of publisher Katharine Weymouth, for an “off-the-record dinner and discussion” — for a fee. After an uproar, The Washington Post canceled plans for the session.

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

I guess they do have some shame after all?

507 wrenchwench  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:36:41pm

re: #502 BigPapa

Fireworks is my fun job. This was a private barge show of 1059 shells.

I have a 300 ish shell show at the Four Seasons Hualalai on Saturday night. Be back to LGF after midnight!


World’s most boring photo of fireworks.
No pics of colorful stuff blowing up in the sky?

508 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:37:28pm

re: #501 Nevergiveup
Oh yes. I do know my shit, explosive wise. We have the hose ready, no drunks get to set off anything, etc…Haven’t had anybody singed yet…knock on wood.

509 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:38:18pm

re: #504 eschew_obfuscation
They try, however there are a lot of reservations and too many people!

510 BatGuano  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:38:24pm

re: #506 Nevergiveup

It’s not shame. If they felt shame it never would have happened. They were exposed.

511 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:38:40pm

re: #497 HoosierHoops

These fucks in Indiana are crazy…I can for a hundred bucks make the backyard look like the effects from Apocalypse now.. Crazy…
/I love it

So do your neighbors in Illinois. I think fireworks are Indiana’s number one illegal export to Illinois.

512 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:39:04pm

re: #480 HoosierHoops

I do not give out investment tips. There is a simple reason. There are many roads up the mountain. They will all get you to the top. But unless you are willing to follow your own road with an iron will in investing, you are going to lose. As I say you have to know yourself more than anything that has to do with any company. You can make money doing options, you can make money with structure arbitrage, you can make money with distressed debt, you can make money many ways. You have to find the style that works for you and keep to it. After you know yourself you have to know who you are playing against. As WEB says “If you sit down at the poker table and do not know who the chump is, you are the chump.” Only then do you start to pick over companies to look for opportunities in accordance with your investing style. Its not easy. Those kids from MIT who did the card counting worked hard. Same iron will and play your game that you need in investing. I spend a full day working. And you better like to read because you will do a lot of it. Junk from companies, SEC filings, news, books, more books, still more books. By the way you read a lot. And none of it is “How I turned $10 dollars into $10 million dollars with my secret trading plan.” The secret plan is to sell the plan for $10 to a million people.

513 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:39:07pm

re: #508 pingjockey

Oh yes. I do know my shit, explosive wise. We have the hose ready, no drunks get to set off anything, etc…Haven’t had anybody singed yet…knock on wood.

I have start goggling and asking around about what’s on tap in Annapolis for July 4th.

514 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:39:38pm

re: #478 Kosh’s Shadow

Isn’t that what buying bonds is? They give us the money now, we pay back more later. That’s borrowing

When you buy stock in IBM are you issuing them a loan? No. When you go to the bank to get a mortgage are they buying stock in your house? Not all transactions involving money and investment are classified as “loans”. It’s simply not true.

515 rightymouse  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:40:11pm

re: #450 Killgore Trout

They are not lending us money.

Buying debt is called what in your book of economics?

516 Jack Burton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:40:26pm

re: #514 Killgore Trout

When you buy stock in IBM are you issuing them a loan? No. When you go to the bank to get a mortgage are they buying stock in your house? Not all transactions involving money and investment are classified as “loans”. It’s simply not true.

Stocks are not bond.

517 Jack Burton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:40:42pm

re: #516 ArchangelMichael

bonds… PIMF

518 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:40:51pm

re: #504 eschew_obfuscation

Don’t the cops sit at the reservation border and stop people coming out to look for fireworks? That’s essentially what they do between Missouri and Iowa.

They have tried to stake out fireworks stands in Indiana before. IIRC, they’ve also been caught doing so and told to go back to Illinois.

The Chicago PD like to sit at the border, but the ISP have a much harder time due to traffic volume on I-80/94.

519 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:40:52pm

re: #513 Nevergiveup
I would think the USNA would do something, then again midshipmen are out for their summer cruises so I don’t know.

520 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:41:10pm

Jordan’s King Abdullah II named his eldest son as heir to the throne Thursday, ending five years of speculation over his successor.

Abdullah’s move is aimed at avoiding the uncertainty over succession that dogged his father, King Hussein. In 1999, Jordanians were baffled to see Hussein - on his death bed struggling with cancer - strip his brother, Prince Hassan, of the crown and give it to Abdullah.

Hassan had been groomed for the Hashemite throne for more than three decades.

By naming Prince Hussein Bin Abdullah crown prince, Abdullah can groom the 15-year-old for the throne from a young age.

Hussein’s appointment came in a royal decree released by the palace. It said the crown prince will hold the title and “enjoy the rights and privileges of his post” effective immediately.

Ain’t Democracy great?

521 rightymouse  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:41:12pm

re: #493 Alouette

What’s the most expensive cut of meat in Gaza?

Fly mignon.

That there is worthy of lots of updings. lol!

522 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:41:31pm
523 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:41:43pm
524 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:41:52pm

re: #487 snowcrash

Yes, I understand that and linked to that upthread. It is not a loan!

525 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:42:22pm

re: #519 pingjockey

I would think the USNA would do something, then again midshipmen are out for their summer cruises so I don’t know.

Plebe class came in Yesterday. I week for the next 2 weeks at least. That’s why I am going down there.

526 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:43:00pm

The new jihadi menu — eat your kill

If anyone ever doubted the West faces sheer insanity in the fight against the most extreme of the Muslim extremists, consider a discussion that recently erupted on a jihadist Web site based on the writings of one of al Qaeda’s leading theorists. The thrust of the debate was that Muslim fighters may be justified in cannibalizing U.S. soldiers if they find themselves with nothing else to eat.

/eat ‘em up yum!

527 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:43:13pm
528 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:43:22pm

re: #495 pingjockey

I have great respect for the electron. As far as I am concerned this asshole we have is testing circuits by taking a metal screwdriver and inserting them into the hot side of the outlet. Now I will admit that I have seen some master electricians go down to the electrical room in my life and wet their finger and touch the buss bar and say, “Yep that phase is hot, that phase is hot, that one isn’t” so if you know what you are doing, you can get away with it. This asshole doesn’t know AC from DC.

529 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:44:09pm
530 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:44:30pm

re: #526 Killian Bundy

The new jihadi menu — eat your kill

/eat ‘em up yum!

I think they’d be sadly disappointed if they tried to eat my aging body. I wonder if they eat Jewish meat?

531 Jack Burton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:45:00pm

[Link: www.investopedia.com…]

The terms “debt” and “borrowing” are used quite a bit.


Bonds are debt, whereas stocks are equity. This is the important distinction between the two securities. By purchasing equity (stock) an investor becomes an owner in a corporation. Ownership comes with voting rights and the right to share in any future profits. By purchasing debt (bonds) an investor becomes a creditor to the corporation (or government).
532 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:45:03pm

re: #527 Iron Fist

You’d think if someone was going to harp on an issue they would have researched the basic facts of the issue. Bonds are debt instruments, pure and simple. They always have been.

/so you’d think, but in this case you’d be wrong

533 Kronocide  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:45:04pm

re: #507 wrenchwench

Fireworks:

1% fire
99% work

534 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:45:32pm

re: #523 Iron Fist

You should see what you can do with a relatiely small amount of C-4. Woo Hoo! C-4 is a blast!

When my Son was training at 29 palms before the Iraq tour he used to send me video clips from his Cellphone when they would blow shit up….
He sent me a Tee-shirt that says..
When you absolutely
positively
must have something blown up by 10am..
Call the US Marines…

535 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:45:45pm

re: #527 Iron Fist

You’d think if someone was going to harp on an issue they would have researched the basic facts of the issue. Bonds are debt instruments, pure and simple. They always have been.

Exactly. Bonds are a way to raise cash, but those bonds eventually mature and come due. Municipalities and toll authorities do this all the time to raise cash, but they are expected to pay off these bonds by the time they mature. It is a loan.

536 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:45:54pm
537 Jack Burton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:46:25pm

re: #527 Iron Fist

I agree that the Paulians are dangerous morons on a lot of fiscal issues, but identifying bonds as “debt” is definitely not one of them.

538 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:46:31pm

re: #527 Iron Fist

They are not fucking loans! Also missing the point that the Tea party speaker say this effects our sovereignty, which it does not. It’s bullshit.

539 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:46:54pm

re: #531 ArchangelMichael

[Link: www.investopedia.com…]

The terms “debt” and “borrowing” are used quite a bit.

Of course buying stock in Chrysler and GM didn’t quite work out that way?

540 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:47:52pm

re: #534 HoosierHoops

When my Son was training at 29 palms before the Iraq tour he used to send me video clips from his Cellphone when they would blow shit up….
He sent me a Tee-shirt that says..
When you absolutely
positively
must have something blown up by 10am..
Call the US Marines…

Special Forces had one like that also. Great tee shirts.

541 Son of the Black Dog  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:48:40pm

re: #450 Killgore Trout

They are not lending us money.

Well, Obama & Co. have set us up to borrow a boatload of money over the next year or so. If the Chinese don’t loan it to us, I’m not sure who will. Just what we need right now is for the bond market to tank like the stock market did. A significant drop in bond prices will probably take the Dow back down to 6600 or lower. Do we really want higher interest rates that will kill off any chance of a recovery?

The Chinese are lending us money, and we need them to lend us a lot more.

542 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:49:13pm

re: #537 ArchangelMichael

I don’t know if she’s a a Paulian. I kinda doubt it. I think the speaker was just using common generic rhetoric to get the crown excited and fearful. Is she was Paulian she would have been ranting about the Federal Reserve and the Constitution.

543 ihateronpaul  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:49:14pm

Hm, this graphic on limbaugh’s site is just a TAD racist

Image: today.parcoltop11.35513.ImageFile.jpg

544 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:49:42pm

re: #531 ArchangelMichael

[Link: www.investopedia.com…]

The terms “debt” and “borrowing” are used quite a bit.

Hey, you invest for a living.

/what the [expletive deleted] do you know about bonds and debt instruments?

545 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:50:45pm

re: #527 Iron Fist

Sorry, my #538 was probably a case of friendly fire. I should follow the thread more closely.

546 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:51:07pm

re: #538 Killgore Trout

They are not fucking loans! Also missing the point that the Tea party speaker say this effects our sovereignty, which it does not. It’s bullshit.

Killgore, ever seen how bonds are sold by municipalities and toll authorities? They are expected to pay them off by the time they mature. These bonds can also go into default. Effectively, they are a loan to the governing body from people who purchase these bonds in a similar way to stockholders, but bondholders are not stockholders. They have no voting rights in the governing authority (unless they live under said governing authority) unlike stockholders. Bonds also have a fixed price unlike more volatile stocks (which are based on equity, not debt).

547 KenJen  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:51:18pm

re: #543 ihateronpaul

Hm, this graphic on limbaugh’s site is just a TAD racist

[Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com…]

How so?

548 Kronocide  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:51:27pm

re: #512 Shr_Nfr

Excellent pragmatism. I’ve worked for some day traders, at the advent of the internet then after. They worked well after the exchanged closed.

Everyone else gambles. Investors work.

549 wrenchwench  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:51:30pm

re: #533 BigPapa

Fireworks:

1% fire
99% work

Between your previous post and this one, the afternoon paper arrived, with a photo of the Fire Marshall with some of the stuff they are going to set up tomorrow, for Saturday. Yep, a lot of work. But they sure seem to enjoy it.

550 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:51:34pm

re: #541 Son of the Black Dog

The Chinese are lending us money, and we need them to lend us a lot more.


Ugh, I give up.

551 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:51:37pm
552 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:52:05pm

re: #516 ArchangelMichael

But all things that trade on the NYSE are not pure stocks or bonds either. For instance, there is a breed of stuff that is a company subordinated convertible trust preferred. AES preferred class C is an example. It is a junior bond that you can convert into shares of the stock. The conversion price is around 35 bucks on the common and the common is trading down around 11 or so, so you don’t. When it was trading in the stratosphere during the IPP mania prior to the Enron bust, it traded more like a stock than a bond. Its value was that you could convert it into a given number of shares at your pleasure and sell them. There are also all sorts of trusts that trade on the NYSE that are really bonds. Some broker sets them up takes a cut and walks away after selling shares in the trust to the public. It can get a lot more complicated than just bonds vs. stock. There are chimera that are sort of different from either of them. Another example is Ford preferred class T. It converts into a number of shares of Ford common. It is a junior bond but its interest payments are now deferred and can be for up to 5 years. They are cumulative and earn interest on the interest. There are many things out there. If you play in that sandbox understand the rules of the game to the letter. It can make a horrific difference.

553 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:52:40pm

re: #543 ihateronpaul

Nah, I think it’s a stretch to call that racist. Stupid, sure. Not so sure about racist.

554 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:52:41pm

re: #542 Killgore Trout

I don’t know if she’s a a Paulian. I kinda doubt it. I think the speaker was just using common generic rhetoric to get the crown excited and fearful. Is she was Paulian she would have been ranting about the Federal Reserve and the Constitution.

KT you seem oblivious to the threat coming at you while you fuss about Paulians and tea parties…they are not the immediate problem if a problem at all in the long run…we have much bigger fish to fry whether you consider buy debt is a loan or not…

555 rightymouse  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:53:25pm

When states, municipalities and even companies issue bonds, they are raising capital and investors are typically paid interest on those bonds until they mature or ‘called’. The investors are loaning their money when they buy these bonds and expect to be paid back, one way or another.

556 BatGuano  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:54:15pm

re: #543 ihateronpaul

Hm, this graphic on limbaugh’s site is just a TAD racist

[Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com…]

The graphic is small. What is the racist aspect?

557 yochanan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:54:42pm

re: #8 LGoPs

can i say ‘pier one’ if i am not the first post?

558 rightymouse  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:54:57pm

re: #546 Honorary Yooper

Killgore, ever seen how bonds are sold by municipalities and toll authorities? They are expected to pay them off by the time they mature. These bonds can also go into default. Effectively, they are a loan to the governing body from people who purchase these bonds in a similar way to stockholders, but bondholders are not stockholders. They have no voting rights in the governing authority (unless they live under said governing authority) unlike stockholders. Bonds also have a fixed price unlike more volatile stocks (which are based on equity, not debt).

You beat me to it. :)

559 Jack Burton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:55:03pm

re: #538 Killgore Trout

They are not fucking loans! Also missing the point that the Tea party speaker say this effects our sovereignty, which it does not. It’s bullshit.

Is this when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object? They… are… fucking… debt!

Having an argument over the semantics of it is stupid and does not change the end result.

China is a creditor to the US government. Creditors can be a real fucking pain in the ass to a debtor when you don’t pay them back. Direct threats to our sovereignty are of course ridiculous but a lot of backdoor bullshit can, and probably is, going on to keep China happy, keep them buying T-Bills, and to keep us out of default.

If nothing else, the result of this will be double digit inflation, and that is bad enough.

560 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:55:07pm

re: #557 yochanan

can i say ‘pier one’ if i am not the first post?

I’d ratan you’d not.

561 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:55:33pm

re: #557 yochanan

can i say ‘pier one’ if i am not the first post?

You are in so much trouble!
*wink*

562 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:55:45pm

re: #528 Shr_Nfr
That is the dumbest thing I have ever seen people who supposedly know better do. It did not impress me and doesn’t to this day. Someone to cmmit suicide, don’t do it in front of me or in my space(on the ship).

563 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:56:51pm

re: #553 Killgore Trout

Nah, I think it’s a stretch to call that racist. Stupid, sure. Not so sure about racist.

You don’t remember this guy?

564 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:56:51pm

I take out a loan from you, I promise to pay back the principal with interest by the end of the term.

I sell you a bond, I promise to pay back the principal with interest by the end of the term.

/hmmm

565 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:57:05pm
566 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:57:16pm

re: #543 ihateronpaul

Hm, this graphic on limbaugh’s site is just a TAD racist

[Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com…]

I think it’s funny. Don’t you know where the phrase “banana republic” comes from?

567 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:57:25pm

re: #543 ihateronpaul
Not IMO.

568 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:57:41pm

re: #556 BatGuano

The graphic is small. What is the racist aspect?

Because it is from Limbaugh, who has been identified as a far-right-raving-wacko-Republican, how can it be anything but racist?

Your country is being stolen right out from under your noses.

Look what Limbaugh said now! um, er,…… mmmmmmmmmm…….donuts

569 opnion  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:57:58pm

re: #511 Honorary Yooper

So do your neighbors in Illinois. I think fireworks are Indiana’s number one illegal export to Illinois.

You can buy alll of the fireworks you want at Krazy Kaplans on the Indians side of the state line. You can them bring em back to Illinois & make the next door neighbor think that he is under a mortar barrage.

570 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:58:03pm

re: #554 albusteve

It’s stupid economics. I don’t think she a Paulian (I haven’t really checked) but that’s not important. She’s feeding the crowd bad economics. They are now dumber for having heard it. It’s now about Ron Paul, it’s about bad ideas. The Tea Party movement has accomplished the miraculous achievement of embracing economic policies worse than Obama’s. (Fair Tax, Letting the banks fail, Gold Standard, etc). Until the Republicans return to real world economics I’m more than happy to let them sit on the sidelines.

571 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:58:09pm

re: #566 doppelganglander

I think it’s funny. Don’t you know where the phrase “banana republic” comes from?

Woody Allen?

572 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:58:50pm

re: #571 HoosierHoops

Woody Allen?

Early, funny Woody. He should have just retired after “Annie Hall.”

573 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:59:13pm

re: #572 doppelganglander

Early, funny Woody. He should have just retired after “Annie Hall.”

I thought he did?
/

574 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:59:33pm

re: #572 doppelganglander

Early, funny Woody. He should have just retired after “Annie Hall.”

I was right?
*faints*

575 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:59:48pm

Well, we’re in the easy half of the Great Borrowing of 2009. That’s the part where we get money. We haven’t hit the hard part yet, the part wherein we pay all that money back, plus interest, and it’s going to be a booger.

/And we won’t have the Chicago political machine to pay it back for us.

576 nikis-knight  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:00:01pm

re: #559 ArchangelMichael

If nothing else, the result of this will be double digit inflation, and that is bad enough.

If nothing else, the result is carte blanche for China to oppress their people in ways that might merit comment if done elsewhere.

577 Kronocide  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:00:18pm

re: #543 ihateronpaul

Why is that racist?

578 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:00:24pm

re: #572 doppelganglander
Waaay before Woody Allen. A lot of the countries down there were wholly owned subsidiaries of Dole, Chiquita, etc…No.1 export…Bananas

579 Jack Burton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:01:10pm

re: #576 nikis-knight

If nothing else, the result is carte blanche for China to oppress their people in ways that might merit comment if done elsewhere.

I think that they have had that “benefit” since they got most favored trading partner status.

580 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:02:32pm

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — A 71-year-old Albuquerque father says he fired a gun after his two adult sons refused to do their chores.

Sammy Shannon calls it a form of discipline.

A police report says the sons, ages 22 and 29, jumped Shannon Monday night after he hit one of them. They pinned him down until their mother ordered them to let him go.

The Albuquerque resident says he then decided to use his own brand of discipline on his sons and that’s when he got his gun.

Shannon admits he fired his .38, but says he didn’t aim it at his sons and would never actually shoot them.

Shannon is out of jail on bond on charges of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.

Well it did get their attention?
/

581 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:02:47pm

Didn’t we have US Marines in Honduras inthe 20s or 30s becuase of unrest among the native workers in the plantations? Damn CRS disease.
CRS = Can’t Remember Shit
CRAFT = Can’t Remember A Fucking Thing

582 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:03:15pm

re: #572 doppelganglander

Early, funny Woody. He should have just retired after “Annie Hall.”

“The last time I was inside a woman was when I went to the Statue of Liberty”
from “Crimes and Misdemeanors”, my favorite of Allen’s

………..and, no, he should not have retired.

583 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:03:37pm

re: #580 Nevergiveup
Ha!
Lesson here boys…Don’t piss off the old man.

584 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:03:40pm

re: #570 Killgore Trout

It’s stupid economics. I don’t think she a Paulian (I haven’t really checked) but that’s not important. She’s feeding the crowd bad economics. They are now dumber for having heard it. It’s now about Ron Paul, it’s about bad ideas. The Tea Party movement has accomplished the miraculous achievement of embracing economic policies worse than Obama’s. (Fair Tax, Letting the banks fail, Gold Standard, etc). Until the Republicans return to real world economics I’m more than happy to let them sit on the sidelines.

the dems own the entire federal govt now…any Paulian ideologies have a super long way to go before they become reality if they can at all…it is simply impossible to revert to a gold standard as as much so for his isolationism…not gonna happen…but a very real possibility is there for BOs fiscal rampage to sink our economy…maybe for decades…the impending disaster is from the left, not the right

585 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:03:42pm
586 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:04:13pm

re: #551 Iron Fist

Somebody, someplace, will have to make a bid for our treasury notes, bonds, etc. They will then pay us in little green scraps of toilet paper with dead people on them. We will reward the people who buy the bonds by giving them more little green scraps of paper with dead people on them than they gave us. We can coin money out of thin air. Most coinage is worth less than its scrap value as metal. The exception was the penny of recent which was worth more than one cent for its zinc value since it was made of zinc and washed with copper. But the green pieces of paper with dead people on them are federal reserve notes. These are backed by an IOU from uncle sam. The fed buys $XX debt from uncle and then prints $XX face of little green scraps of paper with dead people on them. The US notes and the Silver Certificates are a thing of the past.

So either the Chinese or somebody buys the debt or the Fed can buy the debt and then issue lots of little green scraps of paper with dead people on them. Eventually if the Fed does this enough, my $100 trillion dollar Rhodesian note will be worth more than $100 trillion US. Ben would not mind monetizing the debt by issuing more little green scraps of paper with dead people on them. The question is how to deal with that so you do not get a hyperinflation over time. We do not have to sell our debt to any foreign country, we can sell it to ourselves. But that is like taking a dollar out of your left pocket and putting it in your right pocket and saying you are a dollar richer. It just isn’t so.

587 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:04:21pm
588 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:04:31pm

re: #580 Nevergiveup

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — A 71-year-old Albuquerque father says he fired a gun after his two adult sons refused to do their chores.

Sammy Shannon calls it a form of discipline.

A police report says the sons, ages 22 and 29, jumped Shannon Monday night after he hit one of them. They pinned him down until their mother ordered them to let him go.

The Albuquerque resident says he then decided to use his own brand of discipline on his sons and that’s when he got his gun.

Shannon admits he fired his .38, but says he didn’t aim it at his sons and would never actually shoot them.

Shannon is out of jail on bond on charges of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.

Well it did get their attention?
/

heh…New Mexico discipline…listen up boyz!

589 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:04:53pm

re: #585 buzzsawmonkey
Buzz gets the Gold Star! Yaaay.

590 BatGuano  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:05:18pm

re: #580 Nevergiveup

For a reason I cannot put my finger on, it sounds Biblical. Why? I don’t know.

591 opnion  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:05:35pm

re: #581 pingjockey

Didn’t we have US Marines in Honduras inthe 20s or 30s becuase of unrest among the native workers in the plantations? Damn CRS disease.
CRS = Can’t Remember Shit
CRAFT = Can’t Remember A Fucking Thing

Something like that. The Marines wore grenn & the locals chanted “Green go” & it morphed into gringo. Muy bueneo

592 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:06:27pm

re: #591 opnion
Mwahahaha!

593 nikis-knight  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:06:28pm

re: #570 Killgore Trout

It’s stupid economics. I don’t think she a Paulian (I haven’t really checked) but that’s not important. She’s feeding the crowd bad economics. They are now dumber for having heard it. It’s now about Ron Paul, it’s about bad ideas. The Tea Party movement has accomplished the miraculous achievement of embracing economic policies worse than Obama’s. (Fair Tax, Letting the banks fail, Gold Standard, etc). Until the Republicans return to real world economics I’m more than happy to let them sit on the sidelines.

Eh, well, that seems to be the consensus on your hair-spliting to the point of obfuscation.

594 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:07:10pm

re: #585 buzzsawmonkey

“Banana republic,” for those unfamiliar with the term, referred originally to the extremely volatile Central American nations which were formed in the wake of the final collapse of the remnants of the Spanish empire after their defeat in the Spanish-American War.

The United Fruit Company, as an American concern with money and influence with the winning side in that war (i.e., the US), pretty much ran a lot of these new countries, which depended on the growing and export of bananas for the bulk of their national income.

A “banana republic” was therefore an unstable, ill-defined country, prone to revolts and coups, which was largely dependent on the growing of bananas and semi-in thrall to United Fruit.

Fig Tree Hill is my own little banana republic…in Jamaica…I grow bananas down there…they are fun and easy to grow…of course the trees are not 90ft tall yet

595 yochanan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:07:19pm

re: #186 reine.de.tout

was 65 yesterday in chicago, 71 right now.
love it

596 opnion  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:07:24pm

re: #592 pingjockey

Mwahahaha!

Actually, it’s true.

597 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:07:57pm

re: #596 opnion
Oh come on! No shit?

598 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:08:00pm
599 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:08:25pm

re: #562 pingjockey

I do not do it. That is why God invented the VOM. But if they know how to get away with it, they are welcome to do it on somebody else’s shift. I agree with you there. Anyway, like I say the moron we have as the DOTUS (Doormat of the US) is running around with an old erector set metal screwdriver (remember them?) into outlets standing in a puddle.

600 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:08:43pm

re: #585 buzzsawmonkey

You hear that Buzz? That’s the sound of the wind going out of my sails.
I thought I finally got the right answer…
Thanks for that….
*wink*

601 BatGuano  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:08:54pm

re: #568 IslandLibertarian

Quite so. We still haven’t heard from the author for an explanation:Possibly a student

602 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:09:51pm

re: #597 pingjockey

Oh come on! No shit?

Maybe maybe not:

One story that is widely repeated among Mexican-Americans as well as throughout the Southwest United States was that during the Mexican-American War the Mexicans who knew little English referred to the Americans’ green uniforms and would shout, “Green go!”, meaning “Leave our country.” But the Mexican-American War occurred during the years of 1845-1848 and the U.S. Army had blue uniforms in the 19th Century. The olive drab green uniform was not adopted by the U.S. Army until the reforms of General Leonard Wood in 1908.
[edit]

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

But I’ll go with it anyway

603 snowcrash  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:09:52pm

Maybe an oversimplification but true at its essence: he who pays the piper, calls the tune. That is what the speaker was trying to get across to the crowd. Her style was incendiary but WTF do you expect at a Tea Party. It is like a PEP RALLY.

604 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:10:50pm

re: #578 pingjockey

Waaay before Woody Allen. A lot of the countries down there were wholly owned subsidiaries of Dole, Chiquita, etc…No.1 export…Bananas

Oh, I know that. I was just responding to Hoops on the subject of Woody Allen and completely ignoring the original question. Sorry for the confusion.

605 opnion  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:10:58pm

re: #597 pingjockey

Oh come on! No shit?

Seriousl, it was the case all over Latin America when we sent in the Marines.
More useless trivia? Rum & Coke is also Cuba Libre. During the Spanish American War, we had Coke, our Cuban allies had Rum.
They would mix them & toast ‘Cuba Libre” (Free Cuba)

606 BatGuano  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:11:20pm

OT: Obama cannot pronounce the word “to”: It always “Tuh”.

607 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:12:01pm

re: #606 BatGuano

OT: Obama cannot pronounce the word “to”: It always “Tuh”.

he’s King Tuh

608 yochanan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:12:28pm

woody allen gives me the creeps
m. jackson gave me even more of the creeps.

609 CynicalConservative  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:12:33pm

re: #607 albusteve

he’s King Tuh

I thought it was King Uh

610 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:12:33pm

re: #602 Nevergiveup
Hey it sounds good, why the hell not!

611 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:12:47pm
612 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:13:20pm

re: #609 CynicalConservative

King Shit of Turd Mountain.

613 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:13:21pm

re: #609 CynicalConservative

I thought it was King Uh

it’s one or tuh uhter

614 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:13:27pm

re: #610 pingjockey

Hey it sounds good, why the hell not!

Hey I’m convinced

615 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:15:02pm

re: #611 buzzsawmonkey
Not really. Figure the folks that started those stores and their target clientel have no grasp of history. Look at the the goddamn Che’ shit for sale.

616 Son of the Black Dog  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:15:56pm

The Obama admin. has set a dangerous precedent by screwing over the Chrysler and GM bondholders. They’ve turned bond default into a government policy.

California is going to start paying some of its obligations with IOU’s. Are they next going to decide to stiff their bondholders to pay the teachers and the CHP? That would make it extremely difficult for any state of local govt to borrow, except at much higher rates.

Is Obama going to decide that those rich people who own US Treasury securities can live without their interest payments? You’re talking about damaging this country in a way that won’t be rectified for over a hundred years.

Obama doesn’t have an economic policy, he only has economic ignorance.

/rant over, and I gotta run.

617 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:16:00pm

re: #611 buzzsawmonkey

IIRC, Banana Republic used to focus on pseudo-safari clothing and accessories for those who enjoy playing the Great White Hunter. Their catalog was full of stories about the alleged owner’s travels in exotic parts of the world (wearing the items in the catalog, of course). I always assumed the character J. Peterman on “Seinfeld” was a spoof of this, although his name recalls J. Crew, the epitome of preppy chic.

618 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:16:44pm
619 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:17:00pm

re: #611 buzzsawmonkey

And, for your listening enjoyment, Mr. Tennessee Ernie Ford.

620 Clemente  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:17:03pm

re: #598 buzzsawmonkey

…accommodating creditors is never a fun thing.

Exactly so. But a nation that defaults on its debts destroys its credit, at a minimum, which is far worse. It finds itself in a very deep disadvantage in any trade relations.

Further, if its creditors have the means to press a military resolution, they must, else their remaining debtors won’t honor their own obligations.

The logic of the ensuing war is inevitable.

621 BatGuano  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:18:45pm

16 Tons: “I owe my soul to the company store”.

622 opnion  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:19:56pm

re: #611 buzzsawmonkey

The Kholer company In Kholer Wisconsin was the site of one of the ugliest labor riots ever. In the early 1900’s they brought over German immigrants to work. They paid them in company script (company store) & it was impossible to ever get out of debt. The company owned them and acted like it.
The workers finally rebeled & killed a lot of management. To this day there are tunnles under the production plant that were put there for management to use to get out, if it happened again.
They have a Five Star resort there & They actually have pictures of immigrant workers in one of the restaurants.

623 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:21:10pm

re: #622 opnion

The Kholer company In Kholer Wisconsin was the site of one of the ugliest labor riots ever. In the early 1900’s they brought over German immigrants to work. They paid them in company script (company store) & it was impossible to ever get out of debt. The company owned them and acted like it.
The workers finally rebeled & killed a lot of management. To this day there are tunnles under the production plant that were put there for management to use to get out, if it happened again.
They have a Five Star resort there & They actually have pictures of immigrant workers in one of the restaurants.

sounds like Kholer is flush with money

624 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:21:24pm

re: #609 CynicalConservative

I thought it was King Uh

King Uh, uh, uh

625 opnion  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:22:11pm

re: #623 albusteve

sounds like Kholer is flush with money

They have a bathroom fixture museum. I’m serious & people tour it.

626 BatGuano  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:22:29pm

re: #623 albusteve

It pained me to do it, but I updinged you on that one. :)

627 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:22:40pm
628 opnion  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:23:05pm

re: #626 BatGuano

It pained me to do it, but I updinged you on that one. :)

It was quick.

629 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:23:50pm

re: #626 BatGuano

It pained me to do it, but I updinged you on that one. :)

don’t forget to try the veal!

630 CynicalConservative  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:25:00pm

re: #624 sngnsgt

King Uh, uh, uh

Not King Uh…

631 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:25:55pm

re: #627 buzzsawmonkey

I guess you’ve never seen the Peterman catalog. I don’t know if they are still in business, but about 15 years ago they were quite popular. They had drawings, never photos, of their clothing, all of which was “exotic”—Australian drover coats, that kind of thing—with the same kind of breathy, highly colored, pseudo travelog descriptions that Peterman and Elaine do in the Seinfeld episodes. I don’t remember now if it was “Peterman” or “J.Peterman.”

Banana Republic’s “Great White Hunter” thing was a bargain-basement version of the old Abercrombie & Fitch. A&F went bankrupt about 20 or 25 years ago, but before that they actually sold hunting, fishing and safari gear of the sort that moneyed businessmen used to go camping in the Great North Woods or rhino-shooting in Africa, back when you could shoot rhinos. Ernest Hemingway was a big customer, before he blew his head off.

The current A&F, which takes Calvin Klein porn ads to a whole new level, merely bought up the old trademarks.

I’m sure you’re right, as usual. I distinctly recall the catalogs, but as usual various things got scrambled in my memory. I also remember the old A&F. Thank you for clarifying.

632 pat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:28:58pm

re: #611 buzzsawmonkey

I was raised with a company store. Unlike the archetype, we adored it. Not only were families given credit, but we could special order, you could shop by phone and have items ready for pick up. The most extraordinary thing was the store gave credit during strikes! Under the supposition that the strike would one day end and we would all have to make up. The longest strike was 3 months. The store kept many a family in cereal. rice and milk when money had long disappeared (and you realize the store was owned by the same company thew strike was against). This benign attitude is why many in Hawaii do not remember their lives with the visceral hatred that our urban counterparts reserve for a planation life they never lived. The grocery section of the store morphed into a local chain. Macy’s ultimately picked up the dry goods. But ask anyone on Kauai, and they will tell you Lihue Store was the best.

633 eon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:29:21pm

re: #581 pingjockey

Didn’t we have US Marines in Honduras inthe 20s or 30s becuase of unrest among the native workers in the plantations? Damn CRS disease.
CRS = Can’t Remember Shit
CRAFT = Can’t Remember A Fucking Thing

Good evening, Lizards.

Try these memory-joggers;

U.S. Marines In Nicaragua 1910-1933

History of Nicaragua- Wikipedia

As for the bit about “gringo”, IIRC it was a border-Spanish term (Mexican border, that is) for a Norteamericano before the turn of the last century. Of course, it could also have been wrongly assumed to exist that far back due to its use by “Mexican bandidos” in Western movies, too, which only became common in the 1950s and ’60s. Whether that was due to marines in Nicaragua two decades earlier, or due to the Hays Office putting their foot down on “racial epithets” prior to 1950, I’m not in a position to say.

cheers

eon

634 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:32:07pm
635 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:34:34pm

According to Wikipedia, O. Henry coined the term banana republic.

The term was originally invented as a very direct reference to a “servile dictatorship” which abetted (or directly supported in return for kickbacks) the exploitation of large-scale plantation agriculture (usually banana).[1] The term was coined by the American author O. Henry in his 1904 book of linked short stories, “Cabbages and Kings”, set in the fictional “Anchuria”, which was based on his 1896-97 stay in Honduras.

636 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:38:09pm

Go to do laundry, comeback 50 posts and a new thread behind! Going up!

637 hazzyday  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:40:03pm

Walter: RE slow LGF access. From the description I would say 99.99 chance it’s client side to your pc.

Start from O.

Turn off Virus check temporarily.
Same for Firewall
Delete browser cookies and temp files
Reboot.

Look at the site with two different browsers.

A corrupted image stored in cache will hang processes up sometimes until it’s deleted. Malware also as someone mentioned would be a prime suspect these days. But your visits to all sites would be slow then.

I have had the ad servers slow me down sometimes. I have a very slow 5year old gateway and sometimes it handshakes too long with the ad servers and restarts the handshaking. More ram would fix my issue or maybe moving to a linux system. I’d have to dump my porn collection in the reformat then and that just doesn’t seem feasible.

Image delivery will hold up a lot of web servers, even small images. The network path can be ok, but the web server and you are having trouble competing for resources. If you tracert to the ad servers you might see more of a delay then if you tracert to lgf. I see google analytics loading, some amazon stuff and a couple of other ads.

I am on comcast and for me the comcast connection most often caused me issues. DNS not working for a day or so. Router table corrupted. But they will get more then one complaint in those cases.

638 yochanan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 3:49:59pm

re: #632 pat

i was raised with a P.X.


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