Nice and quiet.

Gynt

That's not a pier.

That's the pilings under the pier.

But close enough.

ahhhhhhh nice

I'm guessing that's...Redondo?

*dipping toes into the water*

Going to the beach for my son's birthday. Thanks for the reminder.

Is this a Pier Review?

re: #5 zombie

I'm guessing that's...Redondo?

Why -- yes it is!

Redondo Pier

Damn, I'm good. I didn't look that up until I already made the guess.

My peer said to peer into the pier.

/no reason.

re: #3 zombie

That's not a pier.

That's the pilings under the pier.

But close enough.

Are we pilling on here?

re: #3 zombie

That's not a pier.

That's the pilings under the pier.

But close enough.

Typo. It's supposed to be "peer," as in peer at the pilings.

It's under the Big W

Perfect song for this thread.

re: #11 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Are we pilling on here?

Oh dear. Are we headed for a wave of puns?

re: #10 MrSilverDragon

My peer said to peer into the pier.

/no reason.

While eating a pear?

Obviously photoshopped.

re: #10 MrSilverDragon

My peer said to peer into the pier.

/no reason.

Damn, beat me to it. :(

re: #10 MrSilverDragon

My peer said to peer into the pier.

/no reason.

Is there another one of those things around? .... and some fishermen?

Maybe we could build a pier-to-pier network?

re: #12 Unakite

Typo. It's supposed to be "peer," as in peer at the pilings.

When I look at Charles' picture, it's a peer-to-pier application.

re: #13 Nevergiveup

It's under the Big W

It's been far too long, I need to see that movie again. Always gets me laughing!

re: #17 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Obviously photoshopped.

So, who was photoshopped out? Green-hat guy, or "I just lost my house" lady?

re: #19 eschew_obfuscation

Is there another one of those things around? .... and some fishermen?

Maybe we could build a pier-to-pier network?

That's called a "bridge"

re: #19 eschew_obfuscation

Damn -- you beat me by 8 seconds!

I guess we can now claim that our threads are pier reviewed.

It's like the hammer army in The Wall walking in water.

re: #21 MrSilverDragon

It's been far too long, I need to see that movie again. Always gets me laughing!

"I'm coming, Momma!"

re: #15 EmmmieG

Oh dear. Are we headed for a wave of puns?

More like a display of mussel power.

re: #23 Kosh's Shadow

That's called a "bridge"

You need a causeway for that.

That reminds me of my partner in Krav Maga last night. She had a really, um, nice pair. I really enjoyed having her put me in the Thai Clinch.

Nice picture...you can almost smell the salty air.

re: #28 pre-Boomer Marine brat

More like a display of mussel power.

I debated that pun, but decided to clam up.

re: #22 EmmmieG

So, who was photoshopped out? Green-hat guy, or "I just lost my house" lady?

No globular clusters

Oh, wow.
It's so hot here, I would just love a body of water to jump into.
And that one looks perfect.

it a piers that Charles was peering at the pilings while trying to Focus the shot while on a photo Expedition.........

re: #15 EmmmieG

Oh dear. Are we headed for a wave of puns?

There may be a surfeit of them........

re: #9 zombie

Yep, a section of the Redondo Pier. It's a pretty distinctive pier, with those criss-crossing pilings.

re: #22 EmmmieG

So, who was photoshopped out? Green-hat guy, or "I just lost my house" lady?

Their official names are Green Helmet Guy, and "The Unluckiest Woman in Lebanon."

The perfect joke for this thread, courtesy of MST3K

re: #35 reine.de.tout

Oh, wow.
It's so hot here, I would just love a body of water to jump into.
And that one looks perfect.

You would be cold really, really fast. The Pacific Ocean is quite cold, at least in the US.

re: #37 LGoPs

There may be a surfeit of them........

A-belone!

re: #32 MrSilverDragon

I debated that pun, but decided to clam up.

looks like someone else shelled out for it anyway.

re: #33 buzzsawmonkey

When Irish eyes our pilings...

*BARF* !

re: #39 zombie

Their official names are Green Helmet Guy, and "The Unluckiest Woman in Lebanon."

I shall endeavor to keep them straight.

re: #42 MrSilverDragon

A-belone!

You're just being shellfish

Way cool. Has it been pier-reviewed?

re: #46 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You're just being shellfish

You are such a crab

These puns have me all tide up in knots.

(Two-fer!)

re: #48 Ward Cleaver

Way cool. Has it been pier-reviewed?

Not yet, but it's on the dock-et.

re: #47 buzzsawmonkey

And the photo itself is not Redondant.

There certainly is something Pacific about it.

re: #38 Charles

Yep, a section of the Redondo Pier. It's a pretty distinctive pier, with those criss-crossing pilings.

I love the Pier at Oceanside....Although we lost a Marine from the 3/5th about 2 years ago when he drown there...Sad...

re: #30 Mad Al-Jaffee

I hope you didn't catch a knee. /

re: #41 EmmmieG

You would be cold really, really fast. The Pacific Ocean is quite cold, at least in the US.

current water temp

Careful - if you pier at it long enough, you might get a haddock.

re: #35 reine.de.tout

Oh, wow.
It's so hot here, I would just love a body of water to jump into.
And that one looks perfect.

You don't want to jump into the water at Redondo Beach. Unless you're wearing a wetsuit or are a dedicated surfer. The water temp there is 56 degrees. Coooooold. And fairly toxic, what with the LA River runoffs in the vicinity.

re: #48 Ward Cleaver

Way cool. Has it been pier-reviewed?

Yes and they've decided to declare it is a road.

re: #56 Charles

Careful - if you pier at it long enough, you might get a haddock.

I'm floundering here. Some one throw me a bone.

re: #50 EmmmieG

These puns have me all tide up in knots.

(Two-fer!)

Wharf wants to know how you would say that in Klingon.

re: #56 Charles

Careful - if you pier at it long enough, you might get a haddock.

That pun has me grunion from ear to ear.

re: #56 Charles

Careful - if you pier at it long enough, you might get a haddock.

If the haddock gets really bad, you might need to see a sturgeon about it.

re: #56 Charles

Careful - if you pier at it long enough, you might get a haddock.

eventually we run out of puns and just flounder around for the halibut.

re: #54 badger1970

I hope you didn't catch a knee. /

We were actually working on throwing knees. The person getting kneed wears a body shield, so no harm done. I did get kneed in the upper chest earlier this week. Still hurts.

re: #59 BlueCanuck

I'm floundering here. Some one throw me a bone.

Sea, if you think too hard they just don't come. Just wait a whale.

re: #38 Charles

Yep, a section of the Redondo Pier. It's a pretty distinctive pier, with those criss-crossing pilings.

Been there twice.
Wouldn't ever go back.
The place is a beach.

re: #57 zombie

You don't want to jump into the water at Redondo Beach. Unless you're wearing a wetsuit or are a dedicated surfer. The water temp there is 56 degrees. Coooooold. And fairly toxic, what with the LA River runoffs in the vicinity.

LA River outfall is in Long Beach.

re: #66 MrSilverDragon

Sea, if you think too hard they just don't come. Just wait wade a whale.

re: #46 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You're just being shellfish

I'll just mussel in here and say to clam up.

re: #61 KenJen

That pun has me grunion from ear to ear.

Wow, a grunion joke -- about one of the few beaches in the world that has a grunion run! Touché!

re: #70 Kosh's Shadow

I'll just mussel in here and say to clam up.

Oy(ster) vey!

re: #56 Charles

Careful - if you pier at it long enough, you might get a haddock.

I have some ass-peerin' for that ....

(NSFW)

re: #66 MrSilverDragon

Sea, if you think too hard they just don't come. Just wait a whale.

they come in spurts.....

re: #74 redc1c4

they come in spurts.....

Leave my personal life out of this!

/ :)

re: #61 KenJen

That pun has me grunion from ear to ear.

I'd rather watch a prawn flick......
/

re: #75 MrSilverDragon

Leave my personal life out of this!

/ :)

it was a killer pun, you gotta admit.

AHA! It's coded message! Squint a little, and the pilings read "R I P" and their reflection reads "K M".

I guess Charles is a "Streets of San Francisco" fan. Who knew?

re: #53 HoosierHoops

I love the Pier at Oceanside....Although we lost a Marine from the 3/5th about 2 years ago when he drown there...Sad...

Beginning of the Korean War, Dad was called back in and sent to Pendleton. Housing was tight, and for a few weeks we lived in one of the big houses on the beach north of the pier.

/then the Corps put us in one half of a Quonset hut ... heh

re: #76 LGoPs

I'd rather watch a prawn flick......
/

i always feel shrimpish after i do....

re: #77 redc1c4

it was a killer pun, you gotta admit.

On many, many, many levels, absolutely!

re: #75 MrSilverDragon

Leave my personal life out of this!

/ :)

Did you blow a seal or something?
I mean in your car
_{back seat, anyway}

I thought we were supposed to be talking about current events?

Like the el nino in NK.

re: #68 redc1c4

LA River outfall is in Long Beach.

Yeah, but that gunk can flow north in certain conditions. I recently saw the ranking of the most toxic beaches in California, and Redondo was not doing so well. Maybe not mostly due to the LA River, but other sewage outflows, and just the way Santa Monica Bay shunts all the bad stuff down towards Redondo and Torrance.

re: #84 zombie

Yeah, but that gunk can flow north in certain conditions. I recently saw the ranking of the most toxic beaches in California, and Redondo was not doing so well. Maybe not mostly due to the LA River, but other sewage outflows, and just the way Santa Monica Bay shunts all the bad stuff down towards Redondo and Torrance.

That's just offal!

Captured U.S. soldier was 'sold' to local insurgent group; terrorists say they'll release video soon

An American soldier who went missing from a U.S. base in eastern Afghanistan was "sold" to a local militant group - which claims it will soon release a video of the captive and a list of demands, a U.S. military official said.

"Our leaders have not decided on the fate of this soldier," said a commander with the Taliban's hard-line Haqqani faction, according to Agence-France Press. "They will decide on his fate and soon we will present video tapes of the coalition soldier and our demand to media."

. . .

A U.S. military official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said they noticed the enlisted soldier was missing during a routine check on Tuesday and was first listed as "duty status whereabouts unknown."

/seems we wandered outside the wire on his own

re: #79 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Beginning of the Korean War, Dad was called back in and sent to Pendleton. Housing was tight, and for a few weeks we lived in one of the big houses on the beach north of the pier.

/then the Corps put us in one half of a Quonset hut ... heh

When first Platoon returned from Iraq we rented a beach house on Cleveland street in Oceanside...
I could hang in Oceanside on the beach...

re: #57 zombie

You don't want to jump into the water at Redondo Beach. Unless you're wearing a wetsuit or are a dedicated surfer. The water temp there is 56 degrees. Coooooold. And fairly toxic, what with the LA River runoffs in the vicinity.

A touch cold, but no worse than Lake Superior in August.

As for the toxicity, that's not good.

re: #72 MrSilverDragon

Oy(ster) vey!

Oyster Vey is in Long Island, right?

My pier (where I will be tomorrow).

re: #72 MrSilverDragon

Oy(ster) vey!

That was a pearl of a pun.......

re: #84 zombie

Yeah, but that gunk can flow north in certain conditions. I recently saw the ranking of the most toxic beaches in California, and Redondo was not doing so well. Maybe not mostly due to the LA River, but other sewage outflows, and just the way Santa Monica Bay shunts all the bad stuff down towards Redondo and Torrance.

there are several other rivers/channels that do drain into the Bay, as well as the main sewage plant north of Redondo.... but, AIUI, part of the problem is that with it being back out of the SB channel because of the shape of the shoreline, it doesn't exchange water as well....

with the current running down the coast, i'd be amazed if anything from the LB area could get around PV and into the SM bay without a truck or pipeline being involved.

re: #88 Honorary Yooper

A touch cold, but no worse than Lake Superior in August.

As for the toxicity, that's not good.

Why does 50 degree water cause hypothermia, but not 50 degree air?

re: #92 LGoPs

That was a pearl of a pun.......

Thanks, chum!

Hmmm... this is interesting. A federal judge tossed the conviction of the mother in the MySpace hoax death.

And by the by, anyone want to get AP a copy editor? That first paragraph is a mess.

re: #87 HoosierHoops

When first Platoon returned from Iraq we rented a beach house on Cleveland street in Oceanside...
I could hang in Oceanside on the beach...

When we were there those few weeks, the only "development" thing between the single row of big houses along the sand and the racetrack was the highway.

Went back in the late 70's. YUCK!

re: #94 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Why does 50 degree water cause hypothermia, but not 50 degree air?

Water absorbs heat faster than air .... something like 4-times as fast IIRC.

re: #86 Killian Bundy

Captured U.S. soldier was 'sold' to local insurgent group; terrorists say they'll release video soon

/seems we wandered outside the wire on his own

"Our leaders have not decided on the fate of this soldier," said a commander with the Taliban's hard-line Haqqani faction, according to Agence-France Press. "They will decide on his fate and soon we will present video tapes of the coalition soldier and our demand to media."

Our leaders have decided on the fate of the captors. And that decision is a swift death.

re: #94 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Why does 50 degree water cause hypothermia, but not 50 degree air?

because water conducts heat away much more efficiently. you stay out in 50 degree weather long enough, without proper clothing and food, and you will get hypothermia.

re: #97 pre-Boomer Marine brat

When we were there those few weeks, the only "development" thing between the single row of big houses along the sand and the racetrack was the highway.

Went back in the late 70's. YUCK!

Were the train tracks there on the Beach in the 70's? ....Bastards woke me up every morning at 5am....

Standing at the end of the Huntington Beach pier at dusk one time I saw a big fin slice the water & there was enough illumiation to see a really big shark swimming under the pier.
All I could think is that I was out there during the day.

re: #96 lawhawk

Hmmm... this is interesting. A federal judge tossed the conviction of the mother in the MySpace hoax death.

And by the by, anyone want to get AP a copy editor? That first paragraph is a mess.

I saw that. Not being a Lawyer, I am not sure about the law, but there should be a spot in hell for a mother ( adult ) like that.

re: #57 zombie

You don't want to jump into the water at Redondo Beach. Unless you're wearing a wetsuit or are a dedicated surfer. The water temp there is 56 degrees. Coooooold. And fairly toxic, what with the LA River runoffs in the vicinity.

Oh.
Not for me.
I'm more gulf of mexico in August. Water temps in the 80's.

re: #97 pre-Boomer Marine brat

When we were there those few weeks, the only "development" thing between the single row of big houses along the sand and the racetrack was the highway.

Went back in the late 70's. YUCK!

Red Beach, on Camp Pendleton is nice, as long as you're not in uniform..... sometime you see cammo nets there, sometimes campers.

re: #99 LGoPs

Our leaders have decided on the fate of the captors. And that decision is a swift death.

Lets not be hasty. Perhaps we could establish a dialog.

/

re: #103 buzzsawmonkey

When I was a kid in England, the school had an outdoor pool, unheated.

We were not compelled to get into the water if it was less than 50 degrees--but everyone did, rather than look wimpy.

The English - they like their pools cold & their beer warm.

re: #93 redc1c4

there are several other rivers/channels that do drain into the Bay, as well as the main sewage plant north of Redondo.... but, AIUI, part of the problem is that with it being back out of the SB channel because of the shape of the shoreline, it doesn't exchange water as well....

with the current running down the coast, i'd be amazed if anything from the LB area could get around PV and into the SM bay without a truck or pipeline being involved.

Well, I was thinking of those other river/channels that flow directly into Santa Monica Bay, not the main outflow into Long Beach Harbor. Sorry for the confusion!

re: #106 reine.de.tout

Oh.
Not for me.
I'm more gulf of mexico in August. Water temps in the 80's.

For me, it's Hatteras in July. The temperature of the water feels just right for me. I need to go back, and soon.

re: #106 reine.de.tout

Oh.
Not for me.
I'm more gulf of mexico in August. Water temps in the 80's.

I grew up going to the Pacific Ocean. I'll never forget the first time I was in Florida. It was a revelation.

Atlantic Ocean is for going in. Pacific Ocean is for walking next to and thinking deep thoughts.

re: #102 opnion

Standing at the end of the Huntington Beach pier at dusk one time I saw a big fin slice the water & there was enough illumiation to see a really big shark swimming under the pier.
All I could think is that I was out there during the day.

Yikes. That's why I never swim without somebody bigger and fatter than I am. Figure if there's a close encounter I only have to outswim them.....not the shark.
/

re: #94 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Why does 50 degree water cause hypothermia, but not 50 degree air?

It takes more energy to heat the water, cooling the person more, and air acts as an insulator because it doesn't conduct heat well. That's why a wind is cooling - it removes the air that you heated and replaces it with cold air.

We just got back from visiting my home town, Seal Beach.
Walked out on the pier a couple of times, once at night.
Piers are cool.
Town looked good. Not overbuilt like the rest of the O.C.

Surfers Rule!

re: #114 Kosh's Shadow

It takes more energy to heat the water, cooling the person more, and air acts as an insulator because it doesn't conduct heat well. That's why a wind is cooling - it removes the air that you heated and replaces it with cold air.

Unless it's 100 outside.

re: #112 EmmmieG

I grew up going to the Pacific Ocean. I'll never forget the first time I was in Florida. It was a revelation.

Atlantic Ocean is for going in. Pacific Ocean is for walking next to and thinking deep thoughts.

our water is cold because the primary current comes down from Alaska....

that's one reason SoCal is marginally habitable. otherwise it'd all be desert.

re: #105 taxfreekiller

Dear California State Comptroller,

The only legal tender in the U.S.A. is issued by the U.S. Treasury.

Yours true,

U.S. Secret Service,
Currency Fraud Division

If I were in California, and had to pay something to the state, I'd take the IOU and insist they take it as payment.

re: #96 lawhawk

Hmmm... this is interesting. A federal judge tossed the conviction of the mother in the MySpace hoax death.

And by the by, anyone want to get AP a copy editor? That first paragraph is a mess.

I was surprised they convicted her of anything. I don't know how you charge someone with being a loathsome human being.

re: #112 EmmmieG

I grew up going to the Pacific Ocean. I'll never forget the first time I was in Florida. It was a revelation.

My sisters and I grew up swimming in the Atlantic off the coasts of Maine and NH. They both live in Florida now. Coincidence?

re: #114 Kosh's Shadow

It takes more energy to heat the water, cooling the person more, and air acts as an insulator because it doesn't conduct heat well. That's why a wind is cooling - it removes the air that you heated and replaces it with cold air.

it also evaporates your perspiration....

re: #94 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Why does 50 degree water cause hypothermia, but not 50 degree air?

Water is a more efishent heat sink.

re: #113 LGoPs

Yikes. That's why I never swim without somebody bigger and fatter than I am. Figure if there's a close encounter I only have to outswim them.....not the shark.
/

THat could be a good strategy. The fact is that the big fish come in to feed at dawn & dusk, so day swimming is pretty safe.

re: #116 reine.de.tout

Unless it's 100 outside.

True. I was thinking of anything under 80 or so. Given that we've had about 2 weeks of rain and 60 deg temps, it is hard to remember that it can be warmer.
Global warming, my ass.

re: #116 reine.de.tout

Unless it's 100 outside.

It's a hot wind blowin' up here today, reine. How about your way?

re: #119 doppelganglander

I was surprised they convicted her of anything. I don't know how you charge someone with being a loathsome human being.

call them a politician?

re: #87 HoosierHoops

When first Platoon returned from Iraq we rented a beach house on Cleveland street in Oceanside...
I could hang in Oceanside on the beach...

Go a bit further south - Cardiff and Leucadia have some of the best beaches I've ever been in/on - and I've pretty much hit them all on the west coast. Besides just beaches, there's also Swamis - THE best California spot for longboards, very nice long rolling break.

re: #101 HoosierHoops

Were the train tracks there on the Beach in the 70's? ....Bastards woke me up every morning at 5am....

Train tracks? ? ? ? ... Dunno.
There might have been tracks inland (a quarter-mile or so) back in the 50s.

In the 70s my ex and I were driving down from LA to San Diego and hopped off to find the house I'd lived in. Weren't off the highway very long.

re: #119 doppelganglander

I was surprised they convicted her of anything. I don't know how you charge someone with being a loathsome human being.

What that woman did was so incredibly disgusting.
How could she have been involved in tormenting and taunting that poor teen? That was about as cruel and mean a thing I've ever heard of.
How do people get that way?

re: #106 reine.de.tout

Oh.
Not for me.
I'm more gulf of mexico in August. Water temps in the 80's.

Yeah, the Gulf tends to be bathwater warm. The temperature there off LA seems to be more in line with Lakes Huron and Michigan right now.

re: #117 redc1c4

If I never wear a wetsuit again, so what!

re: #119 doppelganglander

I was surprised they convicted her of anything. I don't know how you charge someone with being a loathsome human being.

Thats what the Civil court is for.

re: #116 reine.de.tout

Unless it's 100 outside.

And 80-90% humidity. (New Orleans comes to mind for that.)

re: #126 redstateredneck

It's a hot wind blowin' up here today, reine. How about your way?

HOT.
HOT.
hot.
miserably hot.
but thankfully, not all that humid. So you can go outside without drowning.

Haddock

re: #130 reine.de.tout

What that woman did was so incredibly disgusting.
How could she have been involved in tormenting and taunting that poor teen? That was about as cruel and mean a thing I've ever heard of.
How do people get that way?

I can't imagine. Teenagers can torment one another in awful ways, but this was an adult. Chronologically, anyway.

If they can't put her in jail, I hope at least they can bankrupt her with legal fees and make her name a byword for evil.

Is a wetsuit wet before you go in the water?
/

re: #132 IslandLibertarian

If I never wear a wetsuit again, so what!

i have a pool, so it's really a moot point for both of us.... %-)

re: #135 reine.de.tout

So you can go outside without drowning.

"Air You Can Wear"

re: #131 Honorary Yooper

Yeah, the Gulf tends to be bathwater warm. The temperature there off LA seems to be more in line with Lakes Huron and Michigan right now.

oh yeah...Lake Michigan on a blazing hot summer day....oh so refreshing

re: #134 Honorary Yooper

And 80-90% humidity. (New Orleans comes to mind for that.)

I will never forget the 7:30 walk I took through the French Quarter one morning.

I haven't been back to New Orleans since.

(still recovering from the sights and smells)

re: #134 Honorary Yooper

And 80-90% humidity. (New Orleans comes to mind for that.)

New Orleans and also Baton Rouge (about 60 miles nw of N.O.) We have the same weather.

re: #129 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Train tracks? ? ? ? ... Dunno.
There might have been tracks inland (a quarter-mile or so) back in the 50s.

In the 70s my ex and I were driving down from LA to San Diego and hopped off to find the house I'd lived in. Weren't off the highway very long.

The tracks run along the beach from LA to San Diego now a days..
I know cause the train woke me every morning....
wish I could remember the name of the train....

re: #135 reine.de.tout

HOT.
HOT.
hot.
miserably hot.
but thankfully, not all that humid. So you can go outside without drowning.

Same here. The outside temp gauge on my car yesterday (which is always high) showed 108 when I got in it. I kind of melted when I saw it.

Cynthia McKinney Remains Imprisoned in Israel After Gaza-Bound Boat Is Seized

Former U.S. lawmaker and Green Party presidential candidate Cynthia McKinney and several other human rights activists remained in an Israeli prison Thursday after refusing to sign a deportation form that they claim is self-incriminating.

Please, keep 'em.

re: #138 LGoPs

Is a wetsuit wet before you go in the water?
/

Only if you pee in it. :)

re: #145 HoosierHoops

The tracks run along the beach from LA to San Diego now a days..
I know cause the train woke me every morning....
wish I could remember the name of the train....

Amtrak San Diegan local train is either the Coaster or Metrolink

re: #144 reine.de.tout

New Orleans and also Baton Rouge (about 60 miles nw of N.O.) We have the same weather.

As do we in Southwest MS (100 mi. n of N.O.). It's just fricken hot all over the south!

re: #149 redc1c4

Amtrak San Diegan local train is either the Coaster or Metrolink

Coaster! Thank you....

re: #147 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Cynthia McKinney Remains Imprisoned in Israel After Gaza-Bound Boat Is Seized

Please, keep 'em.

They should trade them for Shalit, but who'd take them?

re: #150 redstateredneck

As do we in Southwest MS (100 mi. n of N.O.). It's just fricken hot all over the south!

and yet you mock global warming.....

/

re: #138 LGoPs

Is a wetsuit wet before you go in the water?
/

We used to pour pans of warm water into our suits before diving in cold water.....helped for a while ;-)

re: #150 redstateredneck

As do we in Southwest MS (100 mi. n of N.O.). It's just fricken hot all over the south!

I've been in the South in the summer & in the Southwest in the summer, and I can say that the humid air is much worse than the desert air.

re: #115 IslandLibertarian

We just got back from visiting my home town, Seal Beach.
Walked out on the pier a couple of times, once at night.
Piers are cool.
Town looked good. Not overbuilt like the rest of the O.C.

Surfers Rule!

Seal Beach?

re: #137 doppelganglander

I can't imagine. Teenagers can torment one another in awful ways, but this was an adult. Chronologically, anyway.

If they can't put her in jail, I hope at least they can bankrupt her with legal fees and make her name a byword for evil.

If I ever had any inkling that my daughter was involved in something like that, there would be hell to pay.

Cruelty, bullying, whatever you want to call it - unacceptable.

In my mind, a person who uses their superior position (whatever it is) to torment and bully another human being is beyond contempt, and it is one of the most egregious sins a person can commit.

re: #152 Kosh's Shadow

They should trade them for Shalit, but who'd take them?

The Muppets?

re: #155 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I've been in the South in the summer & in the Southwest in the summer, and I can say that the humid air is much worse than the desert air.

because there's nowhere for your sweat to evaporate to.....

i went to the tea party last night. it was smaller than the april 15th gathering.
but a happy go lucky crowd:

1000 people (approx)
2 paul-bots
0 nazis.

it was mostly friendly people waving american flags and holding home made signs. one distinguished serious older gentleman gave me a flyer from the ayn rand center. stephen baldwin was one of the speakers. i vaguely remember him supporting mccain in the election.
anyway, i didn't see any unsavory elements trying to taint or commander the patriotic crowd.

re: #138 LGoPs

Is a wetsuit wet before you go in the water?
/

only if you didn't hang it out the night before...........oh those horribly cold February mornings, slipping into a cold wet wetsuit at River Jetties........

re: #143 MrSilverDragon

I will never forget the 7:30 walk I took through the French Quarter one morning.

I haven't been back to New Orleans since.

(still recovering from the sights and smells)

LOL.
Yep. Not nice.

re: #160 nyc redneck

i went to the tea party last night. it was smaller than the april 15th gathering.
but a happy go lucky crowd:

1000 people (approx)
2 paul-bots
0 nazis.

it was mostly friendly people waving american flags and holding home made signs. one distinguished serious older gentleman gave me a flyer from the ayn rand center. stephen baldwin was one of the speakers. i vaguely remember him supporting mccain in the election.
anyway, i didn't see any unsavory elements trying to taint or commander the patriotic crowd.

Killgore will point them out to you, I'm sure!

re: #155 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I've been in the South in the summer & in the Southwest in the summer, and I can say that the humid air is much worse than the desert air.

But it's better for the complexion (at least, I keep telling myself that).

The only thing we have to pier, is pier itself.

re: #162 reine.de.tout

LOL.
Yep. Not nice.

eau de toilet?

re: #145 HoosierHoops

The tracks run along the beach from LA to San Diego now a days..
I know cause the train woke me every morning....
wish I could remember the name of the train....

I just looked at Google Maps.
EVERYTHING has changed.
Only the pier is still there.
I swear those tracks weren't there in the 50s.

re: #160 nyc redneck

i went to the tea party last night. it was smaller than the april 15th gathering.
but a happy go lucky crowd:

1000 people (approx)
2 paul-bots
0 nazis.

it was mostly friendly people waving american flags and holding home made signs. one distinguished serious older gentleman gave me a flyer from the ayn rand center. stephen baldwin was one of the speakers. i vaguely remember him supporting mccain in the election.
anyway, i didn't see any unsavory elements trying to taint or commander the patriotic crowd.

You're lying! It was full of neo-nazis, Paulians, and radical right wing activists!

/KT

re: #144 reine.de.tout

New Orleans and also Baton Rouge (about 60 miles nw of N.O.) We have the same weather.

I remember that weather. Been 30 years, but I remember it.

We had something similar last week up here in Chicagoland. It was 90 degrees out in Joliet with a dew point of 78. In all, it was a nice day to spend at the water park.

re: #166 redstateredneck

eau de toilet?

eau de sewer is more like it

re: #160 nyc redneck

i went to the tea party last night. it was smaller than the april 15th gathering.
but a happy go lucky crowd:

1000 people (approx)
2 paul-bots
0 nazis.

it was mostly friendly people waving american flags and holding home made signs. one distinguished serious older gentleman gave me a flyer from the ayn rand center. stephen baldwin was one of the speakers. i vaguely remember him supporting mccain in the election.
anyway, i didn't see any unsavory elements trying to taint or commander the patriotic crowd.

Why would you. Paul-bots and Nazi's wouldn't just jump out in the crowd, they would blend in, so you would come back to LGF and make a report saying how everything was fine.

You have been fool by the Paulian-Stormfront-Bircher-Larouchean Cabal. Bahahahahahahahahahahah....

:)

re: #170 redc1c4

eau de sewer is more like it

I thought it was eau de do dah day?

re: #166 redstateredneck

eau de toilet?

eau de Bourbon.

re: #147 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Cynthia McKinney Remains Imprisoned in Israel After Gaza-Bound Boat Is Seized

Please, keep 'em.

Israel really has enough problems. Actually let them go to Gaza and don't let them out.

re: #160 nyc redneck

i went to the tea party last night. it was smaller than the april 15th gathering.
but a happy go lucky crowd:

1000 people (approx)
2 paul-bots
0 nazis.

it was mostly friendly people waving american flags and holding home made signs. one distinguished serious older gentleman gave me a flyer from the ayn rand center. stephen baldwin was one of the speakers. i vaguely remember him supporting mccain in the election.
anyway, i didn't see any unsavory elements trying to taint or commander the patriotic crowd.

Nice report, glad to have it.

re: #166 redstateredneck

eau de toilet?

Yep.

re: #171 Walter L. Newton

Why would you. Paul-bots and Nazi's wouldn't just jump out in the crowd, they would blend in, so you would come back to LGF and make a report saying how everything was fine.

You have been fool by the Paulian-Stormfront-Bircher-Larouchean Cabal. Bahahahahahahahahahahah....

:)

what an intelligent design!

re: #156 lawhawk

Seal Beach?

Seal Beach!

re: #150 redstateredneck
If you care to come up to Boston, we will be happy to have you take some of the weather we have had. We hit a high of 64 today. Its been like that for a month.

re: #170 redc1c4

eau de sewer is more like it

in fairness, I've wandered all over the Quarter at various different times and never have been repulsed...I think some of that is exaggeration, but then people will tell me I don't know what the fuck

Nice and cool in Victoria BC too!

I used to live in Southern California, but I moved to the Texas Hill Country where I have no piers.

(Only kidding.)

bbl

re: #181 albusteve

in fairness, I've wandered all over the Quarter at various different times and never have been repulsed...I think some of that is exaggeration, but then people will tell me I don't know what the fuck

Honestly Steve, take it from me, when you are roaming around there as shit faced as the rest of the folk, what's to notice :)

re: #180 Shr_Nfr

If you care to come up to Boston, we will be happy to have you take some of the weather we have had. We hit a high of 64 today. Its been like that for a month.

A HIGH of 64?
gawd, that sounds so good.

My a/c is running 24/7. And right now I have it on 80. It just never stops.

Michael Jackson's ex-wife Debbie Rowe broke her silence Thursday and declared she wants custody of the two children she had with the late King of Pop.

"I want my children," Rowe said during a 90-minute phone interview with NBC-LA early Thursday.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I wonder if she wants to go to his funeral if she will have to pay?

re: #180 Shr_Nfr

If you care to come up to Boston, we will be happy to have you take some of the weather we have had. We hit a high of 64 today. Its been like that for a month.

I wouldn't mind a day or two of it.

Caught a guy sleeping at his desk. We just spent the last few minutes clearing his desk. All he has left is his mouse and keyboard. Awaiting for hilarity to ensue.

I'm outta here! Have a happy Independence Day, lizards - don't forget what it's all about.

re: #174 Nevergiveup

Israel really has enough problems. Actually let them go to Gaza and don't let them out.

How about tell Hamas to release Shalit, or these people will be shipped to Gaza?

Ahhhh... just what the doctor ordered for a quiet moment of reflective solitude.

Thanks, Charles!

re: #141 scottishbuzzsaw

Scottish!

re: #180 Shr_Nfr

If you care to come up to Boston, we will be happy to have you take some of the weather we have had. We hit a high of 64 today. Its been like that for a month.

I don't mind the low temperatures, but they can have the rain.

re: #186 reine.de.tout

We've got more rain in the forecast here in the NYC metro area. We've had low pressure systems training over the region for the past month, dropping rain practically every day. More showers this AM, more on the way for the commute home. And June 2009 is one of the coolest on record in NYC (and one of the wettest).

re: #190 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'm outta here! Have a happy Independence Day, lizards - don't forget what it's all about.

Avoiding aliens which destroy the Earth's major cities?

re: #190 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'm outta here! Have a happy Independence Day, lizards - don't forget what it's all about.

Barbeque, alcohol and fireworks, dammit!

Loud Sex Leads to Assault Charge for Four Teens, Police Say
Thursday, July 02, 2009
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TORRINGTON, Conn. — Police say a Connecticut girl overheard her mother's screams during sex and thought she was being assaulted, so she rounded up some friends to attack the woman's companion.

The 16-year-old girl, two boys and a 19-year-old man were arrested Tuesday and arraigned Wednesday on assault and conspiracy charges.

According to Torrington police and the woman, the girl thought her mother was being attacked on June 6. Police say the teens went into the bedroom and beat the mother's 25-year-old companion with a baseball bat and punched him. The man, Roger Swanson of Torrington, says he suffered a black eye and several bruises.

The woman, Melanie Arnold, denies she screamed. She tells The Associated Press her daughter heard a slap and thought it was an assault.

Ya can't make this stuff up?

re: #186 reine.de.tout

A HIGH of 64?
gawd, that sounds so good.

My a/c is running 24/7. And right now I have it on 80. It just never stops.

And that is different then which summer in La.? I live in Houston in 1983-9 and we ran air 24/7 and average electrical bill was about 400 dollars a month.

re: #189 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Caught a guy sleeping at his desk. We just spent the last few minutes clearing his desk. All he has left is his mouse and keyboard. Awaiting for hilarity to ensue.

My husband was hit by chronic vertigo about 18 years ago. He was on sick-leave for about 3 weeks while he relearned how to balance himself. His first day back at work went well. On the second day, his coworkers put everything in his office at an angle. He did fall over...laughing.

re: #199 Walter L. Newton

And that is different then which summer in La.? I live in Houston in 1983-9 and we ran air 24/7 and average electrical bill was about 400 dollars a month.

Thanks for posting ..I lost your address....
Letter on the way Friday...
plus I read the reviews about the play you wrote..
You fucking rock dude...good job

re: #193 rightside

Scottish!

Rightside!

It is 56 here with overcast. Probably will be the same for 4th fireworks.

re: #199 Walter L. Newton

And that is different then which summer in La.? I live in Houston in 1983-9 and we ran air 24/7 and average electrical bill was about 400 dollars a month.

Under cap and trade, air conditioning will be priceless.

re: #187 Nevergiveup

Michael Jackson's ex-wife Debbie Rowe broke her silence Thursday and declared she wants custody of the two children she had with the late King of Pop.

"I want my children," Rowe said during a 90-minute phone interview with NBC-LA early Thursday.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I wonder if she wants to go to his funeral if she will have to pay?

I don't know her motive, but, it already appears, at first look, that anything that MJ owned, touched, anything that has anything to do with him, is going to be looked at as a piece of the MJ fortune.

This franchise will be bigger than the Beatles and last many years into the future.

Money makes the world go around
The world go around
The world go around
Money makes the world go around
It makes the world go 'round.

A mark, a yen, a buck, or a pound
A buck or a pound
A buck or a pound
Is all that makes the world go around,
That clinking clanking sound
Can make the world go 'round.

Money money money money money money
Money money money money money money
Money money money money money money
Money money

If you happen To be rich,
And you feel like a
Night's enetertainment
You can pay for a
Gay escapade.

re: #203 scottishbuzzsaw

Good to see you, hope all is well, and that you enjoy your independence day.

re: #200 scottishbuzzsaw

My husband was hit by chronic vertigo about 18 years ago. He was on sick-leave for about 3 weeks while he relearned how to balance himself. His first day back at work went well. On the second day, his coworkers put everything in his office at an angle. He did fall over...laughing.

Last time we had a sleeper, we reset the office clock to 9pm, turned off all the lights and had the guy's wife call him asking where the hell he was.

re: #202 HoosierHoops

Thanks for posting ..I lost your address....
Letter on the way Friday...
plus I read the reviews about the play you wrote..
You fucking rock dude...good job

Thanks.

22:57 Kadima: Netanyahu talks about lowering taxes day after raising VAT (Ch. 10)

Must be taking tips from Obama?

Gosh, I heard Charles was without pier....

re: #207 rightside

Good to see you, hope all is well, and that you enjoy your independence day.

All is well, and I hope the same for you. Happy 4th!

Since it is off-topic,
I was reading a thread from yesterday, Throbert mentioned young'uns playing with dolls.
My little 14 m.o. is so cute these days. She takes her little baby dolls, ("Baaay-BE!"), throws them into a flimsy tent in her play room and crawls in after. She rocks them for a moment, then my wife will ask "how's the babies?", and she chucks them back out.
/pointless anecdote

re: #208 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Last time we had a sleeper, we reset the office clock to 9pm, turned off all the lights and had the guy's wife call him asking where the hell he was.

Now that's funny!

re: #210 Nevergiveup

Israel always has budget problems. Bibi is just dealing with the mess left over from Olmert, which was left over from Sharon, and you get the picture... (the blame game is universal).

re: #205 Kosh's Shadow

Under cap and trade, air conditioning will be priceless.

yup...bills unpaid, power shut off, suffering...people will get very pissed and it's just the beginning...gas will go up, higher unemployment...hair trigger anger...Watts baby

re: #199 Walter L. Newton

And that is different then which summer in La.? I live in Houston in 1983-9 and we ran air 24/7 and average electrical bill was about 400 dollars a month.

Well, you have a point, Walter.
It seems to be very very hot earlier than usual, though.
We don't usually have weeks on end of 97-102 degree temps in June, which we did this year. I'm dreading August. And God forbid I should lose my electricity for any period of time.

Well all, must go. It's almost time to get together with the guys for a few cold ones. I've been blogging so long I don't remember how to talk. Maybe I'll just sit there at the table and text 'em.

Seriously, I hope everyone here in America has a wonderful Independence Day, and that all my lizard friends around the world take just a few minutes to pour a glass and celebrate along with us!

God bless everyone!

re: #216 albusteve

yup...bills unpaid, power shut off, suffering...people will get very pissed and it's just the beginning...gas will go up, higher unemployment...hair trigger anger...Watts baby

Yeah, but Obama said we couldn't keep our temperature at 72 degrees......you mean to tell me he was telling the truth?
///

re: #198 Nevergiveup

Loud Sex Leads to Assault Charge for Four Teens, Police Say
Thursday, July 02, 2009
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TORRINGTON, Conn. — Police say a Connecticut girl overheard her mother's screams during sex and thought she was being assaulted, so she rounded up some friends to attack the woman's companion.

The 16-year-old girl, two boys and a 19-year-old man were arrested Tuesday and arraigned Wednesday on assault and conspiracy charges.

According to Torrington police and the woman, the girl thought her mother was being attacked on June 6. Police say the teens went into the bedroom and beat the mother's 25-year-old companion with a baseball bat and punched him. The man, Roger Swanson of Torrington, says he suffered a black eye and several bruises.

The woman, Melanie Arnold, denies she screamed. She tells The Associated Press her daughter heard a slap and thought it was an assault.

Ya can't make this stuff up?

I had to laugh, in spite of the guy getting beat up, which is too bad.

But that Mom must just be completely stupid.

re: #218 subsailor68

Well all, must go. It's almost time to get together with the guys for a few cold ones. I've been blogging so long I don't remember how to talk. Maybe I'll just sit there at the table and text 'em.

Seriously, I hope everyone here in America has a wonderful Independence Day, and that all my lizard friends around the world take just a few minutes to pour a glass and celebrate along with us!

God bless everyone!

Bye, and while you are talking to them, don't forget to use the sarc tag when needed.

re: #215 lawhawk

Israel always has budget problems. Bibi is just dealing with the mess left over from Olmert, which was left over from Sharon, and you get the picture... (the blame game is universal).

Maybe if they stopped giving money to the Paliterrorists...

re: #213 nikis-knight

Since it is off-topic,
I was reading a thread from yesterday, Throbert mentioned young'uns playing with dolls.
My little 14 m.o. is so cute these days. She takes her little baby dolls, ("Baaay-BE!"), throws them into a flimsy tent in her play room and crawls in after. She rocks them for a moment, then my wife will ask "how's the babies?", and she chucks them back out.
/pointless anecdote

Those days will be distant memories before you know it. They grow up too fast. Cherish them.

Howdy.

Air France plane did not break up in flight - report

PARIS, France (CNN) -- The Air France plane that crashed a month ago off the coast of Brazil "did not break up or become destroyed in flight," but bellyflopped intact into the Atlantic Ocean, the French air investigation agency announced Thursday.

"The plane went straight down, almost vertically... towards the surface of the water, very very fast," air accident investigator Alain Bouillard said.

Based on visual study of the physical remains of the Airbus A330 that have been recovered, "we were able to see that the plane hit the surface of the water flat. Therefore everything was pushed upwards -- everything was pushed from the bottom to the top" of the plane, he said.

[...]

Air France 447 was unable to fly on autopilot at the time of the crash, the investigator said. That was because the autopilot was not receiving speed, wind or direction information, he said.

Hmm.

One possible cause that comes to mind is blocked pitot tubes. This has happened before; ground crews put tape over the pitot tubes when cleaning the aircraft; then forget to take the stuff off. Pilot doesn't check. Once airborne, the computer can't get accurate information based on air pressure and speed.

re: #217 reine.de.tout

Well, you have a point, Walter.
It seems to be very very hot earlier than usual, though.
We don't usually have weeks on end of 97-102 degree temps in June, which we did this year. I'm dreading August. And God forbid I should lose my electricity for any period of time.

Please, Lord, no hurricanes!

re: #219 LGoPs

Yeah, but Obama said we couldn't keep our temperature at 72 degrees......you mean to tell me he was telling the truth?
///

no oil, no refineries, no nuclear power is starting to catch up with us...this new bill is suicidal imo

re: #213 nikis-knight

Since it is off-topic,
I was reading a thread from yesterday, Throbert mentioned young'uns playing with dolls.
My little 14 m.o. is so cute these days. She takes her little baby dolls, ("Baaay-BE!"), throws them into a flimsy tent in her play room and crawls in after. She rocks them for a moment, then my wife will ask "how's the babies?", and she chucks them back out.
/pointless anecdote

And a pointless follow-up.
My daughter never really played with dolls.
She liked to have them without clothes, always.
And she would cut all the hair.
And I found her barbie dolls naked and tied up. That was a scary moment for me.

re: #198 Nevergiveup

Loud Sex Leads to Assault Charge for Four Teens, Police Say
Thursday, July 02, 2009
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TORRINGTON, Conn. — Police say a Connecticut girl overheard her mother's screams during sex and thought she was being assaulted, so she rounded up some friends to attack the woman's companion.

The 16-year-old girl, two boys and a 19-year-old man were arrested Tuesday and arraigned Wednesday on assault and conspiracy charges.

According to Torrington police and the woman, the girl thought her mother was being attacked on June 6. Police say the teens went into the bedroom and beat the mother's 25-year-old companion with a baseball bat and punched him. The man, Roger Swanson of Torrington, says he suffered a black eye and several bruises.

The woman, Melanie Arnold, denies she screamed. She tells The Associated Press her daughter heard a slap and thought it was an assault.

Ya can't make this stuff up?

That should serve as a warning to all you cougars out there, don't invite the boytoy home unless you're absolutely sure the kids are spending the night elsewhere.

Virgin-Americans Vow Fight Against Cap-and-Trade's Blood Sacrifice Amendment

...

House Energy Committee Chair Henry Waxman (D-CA) defended the bill's controversial 'virgin exclusions' rider, which specifies sacrificial exemptions for certain religious orders, members of Congress, and Keith Olbermann.

...

Presidential spokesman Robert Gibbs, himself a well-known virgin, sought to allay fears about the bill.

"Look, I know this bill has been the subject of wild rumors and speculation, but let's all just sit back and see how it plays out," said Gibbs. "The bottom line is that the virgin community has nothing to worry about. Believe me, if this thing passes, I promise everybody's going to get screwed."

The Iowahawk brings his own extraordinary genius to cap 'n' tax.

/as always, apologies if this duplicates earlier links!

re: #223 redstateredneck

Those days will be distant memories before you know it. They grow up too fast. Cherish them.

I remember when daughter was young, complaining about all the "stuff" all over the place.

My dad told me just that - cherish it, it will all be gone before you know it.

I learned to just let it be.

re: #228 doppelganglander

That should serve as a warning to all you cougars out there, don't invite the boytoy home unless you're absolutely sure the kids are spending the night elsewhere.

The phrase "Get a room!" springs to mind.

re: #227 reine.de.tout

And a pointless follow-up.
My daughter never really played with dolls.
She liked to have them without clothes, always.
And she would cut all the hair.
And I found her barbie dolls naked and tied up. That was a scary moment for me.

Another pointless follow-up.

We used to play "Beauty Shop." Poor Barbies. Poor, poor, punk Barbies.

re: #227 reine.de.tout

And a pointless follow-up.
My daughter never really played with dolls.
She liked to have them without clothes, always.
And she would cut all the hair.
And I found her barbie dolls naked and tied up. That was a scary moment for me.

HAHA! She's turned out all right so far, so I wouldn't worry about it.

re: #226 albusteve

no oil, no refineries, no nuclear power is starting to catch up with us...this new bill is suicidal imo

Obama fooled the 52% that voted for him by slyly stating his views out in the open and in plain English..........
I can understand their confusion.
/ Stupid fucktards

re: #227 reine.de.tout

And a pointless follow-up.
My daughter never really played with dolls.
She liked to have them without clothes, always.
And she would cut all the hair.
And I found her barbie dolls naked and tied up. That was a scary moment for me.

Not a problem They were hot and your daughter was helping them cool off. She tied them up so they would leave La. because of the heat. This diagnoses brought to you by Dr. Fill. :)

re: #227 reine.de.tout

And a pointless follow-up.
My daughter never really played with dolls.
She liked to have them without clothes, always.
And she would cut all the hair.
And I found her barbie dolls naked and tied up. That was a scary moment for me.

When I was little my sister and I used to frizz up our barbie's hair and throw them up into a huge pine tree in our front yard. My dad couldn't figure where all our dolls were going until a neighbor pointed it out. We had at least 10 of them up there. All naked.

re: #224 Occasional Reader

Howdy.

Air France plane did not break up in flight - report

Hmm.

One possible cause that comes to mind is blocked pitot tubes. This has happened before; ground crews put tape over the pitot tubes when cleaning the aircraft; then forget to take the stuff off. Pilot doesn't check. Once airborne, the computer can't get accurate information based on air pressure and speed.

They had been talking about iced-over pitot tubes because the ones on the aircraft hadn't been replaced. This is consistent with that, but not with terrorism, which would have made a hole in the aircraft causing it to come apart.

garlic stuffed green olives, hunstman cheese, wheat crackers and burgundy tri-tip make a fine lunch.

Nummy nummy nummy, I got love in my tummy.

re: #219 LGoPs

Yeah, but Obama said we couldn't keep our temperature at 72 degrees......you mean to tell me he was telling the truth?
///

he tells the truth a lot. but who's listening or actually believes that he will bankrupt the coal industry, cause electricity to sky rocket, spread our wealth around or stop us from eating all we want and staying warm.

re: #227 reine.de.tout

And a pointless follow-up.
My daughter never really played with dolls.
She liked to have them without clothes, always.
And she would cut all the hair.
And I found her barbie dolls naked and tied up. That was a scary moment for me.

LOL! My older daughter adored dolls of all kinds. The younger one couldn't care less, but she would occasionally give Barbie a haircut, like your daughter. Oh, and then there was the time she used a Sharpie to give Barbie tribal tattoos. However, she did ask for a Ken doll once. I never quite knew what to make of that.

re: #205 Kosh's Shadow

Under cap and trade, air conditioning will be priceless.

Cap & trade & all of the 'Green" jobs that Obama is talking about makes no sense during a recession with unemployment going to double digits.
Jut get people back to work, quit looting the treasury & stop flying to New York for date night.

re: #227 reine.de.tout

And a pointless follow-up.
My daughter never really played with dolls.
She liked to have them without clothes, always.
And she would cut all the hair.
And I found her barbie dolls naked and tied up. That was a scary moment for me.

Mine dressed He-Man in Barbie's clothes.

re: #234 LGoPs

Obama fooled the 52% that voted for him by slyly stating his views out in the open and in plain English..........
I can understand their confusion.
/ Stupid fucktards

some of the very people that worship this guy will suffer sooner and the most while their liberal leaders languish in money...how ironic

re: #238 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

garlic stuffed green olives, hunstman cheese, wheat crackers and burgundy tri-tip make a fine lunch.

Nummy nummy nummy, I got love in my tummy.

Thanks for that. I had gruel for lunch.
Harumph.

/

re: #239 nyc redneck

he tells the truth a lot. but who's listening or actually believes that he will bankrupt the coal industry, cause electricity to sky rocket, spread our wealth around or stop us from eating all we want and staying warm.

Look at my # 234.......

re: #187 Nevergiveup

Michael Jackson's ex-wife Debbie Rowe broke her silence Thursday and declared she wants custody of the two children she had with the late King of Pop.

"I want my children," Rowe said during a 90-minute phone interview with NBC-LA early Thursday.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I wonder if she wants to go to his funeral if she will have to pay?

She should have them.

Jacksons' family puts the "d" in dysfunctional... the parents did a crap job raising the first set of kids, they were all messed up psychologically and emotionally. They have no absolutely business trying to raise their their grandkids.

It's totally gaggifying to have to watch MJ's parents and siblings circling around like vultures before he's even buried.

Someone needs to step in and have these kids moved into a stable (read: nondysfuctional) home. And that doesn't necessarily mean the home that has the most money, the best nannies that money can buy and the priciest bedroom furniture.

re: #242 Kosh's Shadow

Mine dressed He-Man in Barbie's clothes.

What a great marketing idea - the first tranny doll for children! You guys could make a fortune.

re: #235 Walter L. Newton

re: #236 KenJen

I'm gonna tell ya'll. I worried myself sick over that.
She was playing 'rescue', apparently, where they would be tied up by the bad guys and rescued by Ken. At least that's what she told me.

Please, no more Michael Jackson. Please. He'd dead. He's still dead. He will continue being dead.

re: #245 LGoPs

Look at my # 234.......

oh, ok, you are exactly right.
:D

re: #243 albusteve

some of the very people that worship this guy will suffer sooner and the most while their liberal leaders languish in money...how ironic

I can live with that. They deserve what they get, although the rest of us don't. What I can't abide is the so called leaders - a better term would be apparatchiks - thriving.
That boils my blood.

re: #247 doppelganglander

What a great marketing idea - the first tranny doll for children! You guys could make a fortune.

TS Joe!

re: #240 doppelganglander

LOL! My older daughter adored dolls of all kinds. The younger one couldn't care less, but she would occasionally give Barbie a haircut, like your daughter. Oh, and then there was the time she used a Sharpie to give Barbie tribal tattoos. However, she did ask for a Ken doll once. I never quite knew what to make of that.

ROFL! Now that's funny.