Overnight Open Thread
No treaty is ever an impediment to a cheat.
— Sophocles
No treaty is ever an impediment to a cheat.
— Sophocles
1 | Syrah Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:20:07pm |
Alright Lizards.
See you all on Saturday Evening.
Keep cool heads people. It is important.
2 | solomonpanting Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:20:40pm |
No treaty is ever an impediment to a cheat.
Kim Jung Very Ill
4 | The Shadow Do Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:27:12pm |
No treaty is ever an impediment to a cheat.
Democrats everywhere disagree.
6 | Fenway_Nation Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:28:41pm |
Evening lizards...what are we drinking tonight?
7 | zombie Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:28:49pm |
Stumbled on the answer everyone's been wondering about: The Obama Witch Doctor pic is a photoshop of a traditional witch doctor from the Tari Highlands in Papua New Guinea, in the South Pacific.
Here's the Obama Photoshop. Notice the precise details of the costume.
Now:
Here is a real Papua New Guinea witch doctor from the Tari Highlands. The details are exactly the same.
Here is a Getty Images photo of a Papua New Guinea witch doctor from the Tari Highlands, with an identifying caption.
Here's another pic of one from a Russian stock image library. Again -- all the details match.
I wasn't able to find the exact jpeg that was the basis of the Photoshop (though I only searched for a few minutes), but at least I cleared up one mystery.
---
Also, what's through the witch doctor's/Obama's nose is a pig's tusk.
Does that count as a bone? I guess so. A tusk is a tooth, and a tooth is a bone.
So I guess one can definitively say he has a bone through his nose, just so long as you concur that a tusk is a bone.
8 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:30:07pm |
No treaty is ever an impediment to a cheat.
— Sophocles
And living during the Peloponnesion War, Sophocles would seen aple evidence to support his contention.
9 | zombie Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:30:09pm |
(Sorry for the repost -- I posted the same comment at the very end of the previous 1,200- comment dead thread.)
10 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:31:38pm |
re: #6 Fenway_Nation
Evening lizards...what are we drinking tonight?
Bitter wine, to mourn our lost comrade. Iron Fist got banned.
11 | zombie Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:32:37pm |
re: #10 Dark_Falcon
Bitter wine, to mourn our lost comrade. Iron Fist got banned.
Really? I missed that.
13 | Render Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:33:58pm |
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
Report: Bush mulled sending troops into Buffalo...
"Dispatching troops into the streets is virtually unheard of. The Constitution and various laws restrict the military from being used to conduct domestic raids and seize property."
Yo, AP (Rooters hase the same story...).
Waco, you lying assholes, Waco.
We remember Blowjob Billy Clinton, Janet TheMan Reno, and Weasely Clarke. Even if you don't.
M-728
CEV,
R
14 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:34:56pm |
re: #11 zombie
Really? I missed that.
Yes, Charles gave him the gate for defending the racist photoshop. Charles then found and blocked no fewer than 7 sockpuppets owned by IF. Sad day.
15 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:36:03pm |
16 | zombie Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:37:52pm |
re: #13 Render
And what about all those times in the late'60s/early '70s when the National Guard was called out to dispel anti-war etc. riots?
Kent State Ohio, 1970
Berkeley, California, 1969
...and so on.
Does "National Guard" count as the military?
Also, needless to say, FDR deployed US military on US soil various times, as did Lincoln (obviously) even in the northern states outside of military conflict zones.
17 | Soona' Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:38:42pm |
re: #9 zombie
(Sorry for the repost -- I posted the same comment at the very end of the previous 1,200- comment dead thread.)
That's fine. I'm going to look at it now.
18 | zombie Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:39:05pm |
re: #14 Dark_Falcon
Yes, Charles gave him the gate for defending the racist photoshop. Charles then found and blocked no fewer than 7 sockpuppets owned by IF. Sad day.
Ooooh dear.
19 | Soona' Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:40:32pm |
re: #13 Render
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
Report: Bush mulled sending troops into Buffalo...
"Dispatching troops into the streets is virtually unheard of. The Constitution and various laws restrict the military from being used to conduct domestic raids and seize property."
Yo, AP (Rooters hase the same story...).
Waco, you lying assholes, Waco.
We remember Blowjob Billy Clinton, Janet TheMan Reno, and Weasely Clarke. Even if you don't.
M-728
CEV,
R
They sent NG troops to the south during the civil rights unrest.
20 | Rob with a mind Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:40:49pm |
re: #15 Dark_Falcon
To quote the great MandyManners:
Go piss up a rope.
I was Saying that in the 70's.( Its not her material) So to quote Rob" Ouch, Ouch, please Stop!!
21 | freetoken Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:44:53pm |
Odds on that is a sock puppet that is stinking up the room?
22 | Render Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:45:04pm |
re: #16 zombie
Natty Guard is State owned. HabCorpus only covers actual Federal troops. Those were Federal troops, under Weasel Clarkes direct command, at Waco.
===
Iron Fist, I'll miss you. But I will never follow where you have gone.
WHERE
EVER,
R
23 | Soona' Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:47:03pm |
re: #22 Render
Natty Guard is State owned. HabCorpus only covers actual Federal troops. Those were Federal troops, under Weasel Clarkes direct command, at Waco.
===
Iron Fist, I'll miss you. But I will never follow where you have gone.
WHERE
EVER,
R
What happened with Iron Fist? Or does anyone want to talk about it?
24 | wiffersnapper Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:47:32pm |
Is it creepy that the book The Hymn of Jesus is being sold on Amazon for $6.66?
25 | Pvt Bin Jammin Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:47:38pm |
I was just going to go to sleep but I just had to look in on LGF. WTF?
26 | Syrah Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:48:30pm |
27 | Cheechako Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:49:10pm |
re: #16 zombie
And what about all those times in the late'60s/early '70s when the National Guard was called out to dispel anti-war etc. riots?
Kent State Ohio, 1970
Berkeley, California, 1969
...and so on.Does "National Guard" count as the military?
Also, needless to say, FDR deployed US military on US soil various times, as did Lincoln (obviously) even in the northern states outside of military conflict zones.
Also the 101st Airborne sent to Little Rock by Ike were Federal troops.
28 | Cheechako Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:49:53pm |
re: #27 Cheechako
Also the 101st Airborne sent to Little Rock by
IkeKennedy were Federal troops.
PIMF
29 | zombie Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:49:55pm |
re: #11 zombie
Really? I missed that.
re: #23 Soona'
What happened with Iron Fist? Or does anyone want to talk about it?
re: #25 Pvt Bin Jammin
I was just going to go to sleep but I just had to look in on LGF. WTF?
Looks like a lot of people are out of the loop and have some catching up to do! Me included!
30 | Soona' Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:51:03pm |
re: #27 Cheechako
Also the 101st Airborne sent to Little Rock by Ike were Federal troops.
And don't forget the indian wars. Fed troops were there for that.
31 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:51:13pm |
32 | Pvt Bin Jammin Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:52:28pm |
re: #29 zombie
My hubby was at Berkeley but I'm not sure if he was suppossed to be there.
He told our daughter that he would never support her if she went to that school, however.
33 | TedStriker Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:52:41pm |
34 | zombie Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:53:37pm |
re: #28 Cheechako
PIMF
No, you were right the first time -- it was Eisenhower:
The next day, Woodrow Mann, the Mayor of Little Rock, asked President Eisenhower to send federal troops to enforce integration and protect the nine students. On September 24, the President ordered the 101st Airborne Division of the United States Army to Little Rock and federalized the entire 10,000 member Arkansas National Guard, taking it out of the hands of Governor Faubus. The 101st took positions immediately, and the nine students successfully entered the school on the next day, Wednesday, September 25, 1957.
35 | MichaelAsher Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:54:00pm |
36 | Syrah Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:54:10pm |
re: #31 Dark_Falcon
Hopefully Charles looks into this after he flings the troll out the door.
I leave it in your able hands tonight then.
Goodnight again.
out.
38 | TheMatrix31 Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:54:23pm |
What's happened in the last three and a half hours?
40 | Pvt Bin Jammin Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:55:44pm |
re: #38 TheMatrix31
What's happened in the last three and a half hours?
I don't know. I've been out for dinner and drinks.
I'm bad.
41 | pink freud Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:56:10pm |
re: #38 TheMatrix31
Hi Matrix, how are you this evening?
I've been gone most of the evening, except for the bottom of the last thread.
/nasty sons a bitches *shudder*!
42 | Soona' Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:56:21pm |
re: #38 TheMatrix31
What's happened in the last three and a half hours?
The Lounge was open. A lot of people evidently drinking a lot of boxed wine. I got in on the last of it. (Never did find a waitress)
43 | zombie Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:56:29pm |
re: #32 Pvt Bin Jammin
My hubby was at Berkeley but I'm not sure if he was suppossed to be there.
He told our daughter that he would never support her if she went to that school, however.
Probably was a smart decision on your hubby's part. The brainwashing there is intense, especially these days. (Unless you are in science, engineering, or business, which are still all top-ten nationwide quality departments.) Most of the rest, however -- pure moonbat indoctrination, from day one.
44 | Soona' Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:58:18pm |
re: #43 zombie
Probably was a smart decision on your hubby's part. The brainwashing there is intense, especially these days. (Unless you are in science, engineering, or business, which are still all top-ten nationwide quality departments.) Most of the rest, however -- pure moonbat indoctrination, from day one.
I thought there was a growing conservative faction there.
45 | TheMatrix31 Fri, Jul 24, 2009 11:58:23pm |
Looks like it's been a mess. We're lucky we missed most of it. You guys goin' out, and here I am just waking up from a nap. My sleeping schedule is off the rails!
48 | zombie Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:00:42am |
re: #44 Soona'
I thought there was a growing conservative faction there.
I think there is -- among the students. (Those few who can see through the barrage of craziness.) But the faculty -- a lost cause.
49 | Dancing along the light of day Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:01:57am |
Goodnight, dear lizards. Please play nicely & do NOT let the ban stick have reason to get you. {Lizardim}
50 | Pvt Bin Jammin Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:02:28am |
re: #43 zombie
They were at Berkeley without bullets, because of the Kent State thing. Lots of those Marines got hurt from flying LP's, potatoes with nails, etc. Those were our days.
Daughter got a BS in business so maybe she would have done okay there but she is a musician at heart and a republican so she probably wouldn't have really fit in. She became a cop too. LOL
51 | pink freud Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:02:31am |
52 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:03:13am |
re: #48 zombie
I think there is -- among the students. (Those few who can see through the barrage of craziness.) But the faculty -- a lost cause.
In that case, almost every school in the nation is a lost cause. I know some of the faculty at OU, and you're right. Moonbatsville.
53 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:03:58am |
Did anyone else worth a damn lose their accounts?
54 | Dancing along the light of day Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:04:03am |
re: #51 pink freud
Goodnight, sweet pink. May you dream a dream of lovelies!
55 | pink freud Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:04:07am |
56 | Pvt Bin Jammin Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:04:30am |
re: #49 Floral Giraffe
Goodnight, dear lizards. Please play nicely & do NOT let the ban stick have reason to get you. {Lizardim}
'Nite, friend. I am not lasting very long either.
57 | pink freud Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:04:46am |
re: #53 TheMatrix31
Nevergiveup, then Iron Fist and Island Libertarian.
58 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:04:55am |
59 | Dancing along the light of day Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:05:28am |
re: #53 TheMatrix31
No, some of "us" are still here. "We" did lose some okd-timers today, though...
60 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:06:01am |
re: #47 Rob with a mind
You showed up and posted a very hostile screed. It would not take much of a leap for us to assume you were berating us, especially after what has gone on these last two days. You need to be more civil./
61 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:06:06am |
re: #57 pink freud
Nevergiveup, then Iron Fist and Island Libertarian.
Man. They're dropping like flys. What's been happening?
62 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:06:58am |
re: #57 pink freud
Nevergiveup, then Iron Fist and Island Libertarian.
Man, that's terrible. I found myself agreeing with many of their points. Obviously not the stuff they got banned for though.
63 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:07:17am |
re: #57 pink freud
Nevergiveup, then Iron Fist and Island Libertarian.
What did Island Libertarian do?
64 | Dancing along the light of day Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:07:19am |
re: #57 pink freud
Nevergiveup, then Iron Fist and Island Libertarian.
I missed the stick for "island libertarian". SIGH. Good "friends" that ar enow gone & will be missed. SIGH.
67 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:09:10am |
re: #13 Render
I'm formulating a theory in my little noggin...
I think intially, 0bama was hoping the Gates/Crowley fiasco would serve as a nice big fat juicy distraction from 0bamacare crashing and burning (courtesey of his own party). But he had to step in it big-time and weigh in on the side of his leftsist petulant whackademic race-baiting ivy-league buddy after admitting he didn't have all the facts. In a way, calling the Cambridge police stupid doesn't really serve as a distraction, since it highlights 0bama's lack of leadership skills and tact, which in turn would make one wonder if he can't get it right on a fairly trivial matter of local concern, what makes people think he can get it right with nationalized healthcare.
So this story about Bush apparently considering 'invading' Buffalo NY with US Troops is another attempt by his MSM enablers to shift the narrative from 0bama screwing the pooch yet again to 'Look How Bad We Had It Under Bush'...
68 | calcajun Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:09:16am |
re: #42 Soona'
Boxed wine will do the trick in a pinch!
Ah-- still have to got to the office tomorrow. Ah, life in a recession.
69 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:09:20am |
re: #60 Dark_Falcon
You showed up and posted a very hostile screed. It would not take much of a leap for us to assume you were berating us, especially after what has gone on these last two days. You need to be more civil./
Its fallout from the racist photoshopped picture. Iron Fist tried to diminish its racism and after Charles had warned him, he kept on going and got the boot.
70 | pink freud Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:10:11am |
I'm not going into any of it.
DF, with all respect, if you get that one all riled up and make this place unpleasant as a result, I'm outta here. I'd just leave him alone.
71 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:12:47am |
re: #70 pink freud
I'm not going into any of it.
DF, with all respect, if you get that one all riled up and make this place unpleasant as a result, I'm outta here. I'd just leave him alone.
Fair enough. I'll take my leave then. Hopefully that will keep things calm. I'm tired enough that I'd need to go to bed soon anyways. Goodnight, PF.
73 | pink freud Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:13:59am |
re: #71 Dark_Falcon
I didn't mean for you to leave by any means, DF. I like your company. It's just been a hard day with those types.
If you're gone though, I wish you pleasant dreams and a nice day tomorrow. :-)
75 | calcajun Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:14:55am |
You know, after the meltdowns of the past few days, the truth is that we are all prejudiced to some degree. We have to be as we are humans. It's our nature. The trick is knowing our prejudices-- and knowing when to shut up.
The whole issue with the photo brought a lot of those feelings to the surface and that is never a pretty thing.
Anyway, Mrs Cajun just gave me the come hither look--so I am outta here.
Later gang.
76 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:15:21am |
re: #74 pink freud
Red! :-)
Spiked, I hope?
i only have one recipe.
(however, it has many variations on the theme... %-)
77 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:15:36am |
78 | pink freud Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:15:43am |
re: #75 calcajun
Anyway, Mrs Cajun just gave me the come hither look--so I am outta here.
Later gang.
Ooh la la ;-)
Nite!
79 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:15:56am |
re: #75 calcajun
You know, after the meltdowns of the past few days, the truth is that we are all prejudiced to some degree. We have to be as we are humans. It's our nature. The trick is knowing our prejudices-- and knowing when to shut up.
The whole issue with the photo brought a lot of those feelings to the surface and that is never a pretty thing.
Anyway, Mrs Cajun just gave me the come hither look--so I am outta here.
Later gang.
and off to the dog house he goes... %-)
80 | Pvt Bin Jammin Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:16:31am |
Good night lizards. If the government troops were at Berkeley illegally I say WTF. My hubby was stabbed by the Weather Underground on a military installation. I think he should be eligible for a purple heart.
Take care, all.
81 | pink freud Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:16:31am |
82 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:16:44am |
re: #77 Soona'
I Little ole Lady here already?
naw, just digging around in the frig, getting things ready for her...
call it Qualoty COntrol. %-)
84 | calcajun Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:17:12am |
85 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:17:17am |
re: #81 pink freud
He said "hither", not "wither",
she's standing by the door... want me to link the web cam?
/white smoke
86 | pink freud Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:17:54am |
re: #76 redc1c4
i only have one recipe.
(however, it has many variations on the theme... %-)
Gimme two.
89 | pink freud Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:20:57am |
90 | Rob with a mind Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:22:52am |
re: #69 Dark_Falcon
I am in a hostile mood. I wont apologize. Ive had 6 months of this pablum forced on me via all MSM. This is Marx 101, and I'm not writing pretty tomes about this Thug in The white House that's acting like a Chicago union ball buster. OH yea! He is!!
93 | gmsc Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:30:24am |
27 years ago, Kevin Flynn wrote an original video game. It was stolen from him, and his quest for the evidence of theft and the return of the video game program took him deeper into the computer's world than he ever expected.
Today, Kevin himself is missing, and his son's quest to find out what happened will also take him deep into that same world, but that world has evolved in strange new ways over the past decades . . .
Link to highquality download site: [Link: www.flynnlives.com...]
94 | axegrinder Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:33:44am |
Mornin' Lizards. So, what's the blood count? Was 34 or 35 last i checked in. No more Iron Fist. I'd seen him in here a lot.
95 | pink freud Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:34:24am |
re: #93 gmsc
I remember Tron! (old-timer's hasn't completely engulfed me)
Cool, gmsc. Bet my kid will like the sequel.
/nice to see you, Pi Guy!
96 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:34:47am |
re: #92 pink freud
Accessory included?
you know my moto: the customer is always right handed...
you can always trade the leftovers to LoL. %-)
97 | gmsc Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:35:54am |
re: #95 pink freud
I remember Tron! (old-timer's hasn't completely engulfed me)
Cool, gmsc. Bet my kid will like the sequel.
/nice to see you, Pi Guy!
Good to be back!
98 | pink freud Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:36:07am |
Haha!
/she will be eternally grateful, I have no doubt
/wait ...you are talking about the *accessory*, right?
99 | gmsc Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:37:55am |
Oh, and a belated happy 61st birthday to Marvin the Martian!
100 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:38:02am |
re: #98 pink freud
Haha!
/she will be eternally grateful, I have no doubt
/wait ...you are talking about the *accessory*, right?
i neither know, nor wish to contemplate, which items you designated what.
/ignorance *is* bliss
101 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:38:44am |
re: #99 gmsc
Oh, and a belated happy 61st birthday to Marvin the Martian!
[Video]
are you going to do a countdown of his 100 greatest videos too?
102 | freetoken Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:39:25am |
103 | pink freud Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:39:35am |
re: #99 gmsc
Perfect! Toonies to soothe the hostile breast.
:-)
104 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:39:59am |
re: #99 gmsc
Oh, and a belated happy 61st birthday to Marvin the Martian!
Geez. Is he that old? Then I must be...oh shit!
105 | pink freud Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:40:05am |
re: #100 redc1c4
i neither know, nor wish to contemplate, which items you designated what.
/ignorance *is* bliss
She will.
LOL
107 | gmsc Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:41:06am |
re: #103 pink freud
Perfect! Toonies to soothe the hostile breast.
:-)
Yes, there's nothing like relaxing to a little attempt to destroy the Earth to take your mind off your troubles, eh?
;)
108 | Lawrior Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:42:22am |
re: #102 freetoken
37? Gads, it's sad there were that many that made it in here. At least this system is self-correcting.
109 | pink freud Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:42:38am |
re: #107 gmsc
You jest, gmsc, but just having that wabbit voice and the soundtrack in the background takes me all the way back. And yes, it *is* relaxing, more than I expected.
/you should try it, red!
110 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:42:45am |
re: #107 gmsc
Yes, there's nothing like relaxing to a little attempt to destroy the Earth to take your mind off your troubles, eh?
;)
that might be the explanation we've all been waiting for:
Ear Leader is a Martian!
112 | freetoken Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:44:25am |
re: #103 pink freud
Perfect! Toonies to soothe the hostile breast.
Hostile breasts!? Nah... some are soft as marshmallows...
113 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:45:14am |
re: #109 pink freud
You jest, gmsc, but just having that wabbit voice and the soundtrack in the background takes me all the way back. And yes, it *is* relaxing, more than I expected.
/you should try it, red!
A different era. I miss it.
114 | pink freud Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:47:00am |
Ok, how about the Road Runner now?
Gmsc, will you do the honors?
/good by you, soona?
115 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:47:17am |
116 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:47:52am |
re: #112 freetoken
Hostile breasts!? Nah... some are soft as marshmallows...
Where'd you get the picture of my first wife?
117 | pink freud Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:48:06am |
re: #115 TheMatrix31
Hostile breasts? Cool.
Delayed reaction?
/brings to mind those cone thingies, doesn't it? or does it?
118 | gmsc Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:48:34am |
re: #114 pink freud
Ok, how about the Road Runner now?
Gmsc, will you do the honors?
/good by you, soona?
How about a little "Zipping Along" from 1953?
119 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:48:49am |
re: #114 pink freud
Ok, how about the Road Runner now?
Gmsc, will you do the honors?
/good by you, soona?
Good by me. Do it Gmsc.
120 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:50:49am |
re: #114 pink freud
Ok, how about the Road Runner now?
Gmsc, will you do the honors?
/good by you, soona?
121 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:51:11am |
re: #117 pink freud
Delayed reaction?
/brings to mind those cone thingies, doesn't it? or does it?
Madonna?
122 | axegrinder Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:51:29am |
re: #102 freetoken
Well, a gruesome morning to you too.
/the count was more, I lost track at 37
It was pretty gruesome yesterday afternoon. I got down-dinged multiple times for being what I thought was thoughtful and level headed. One of them from Charles. I'm lucky to be alive. lol
123 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:54:13am |
re: #117 pink freud
Delayed reaction?
/brings to mind those cone thingies, doesn't it? or does it?
LOL no, just caught my eye. Believe it or not, the first thing I thought of was a CHICKEN breast.
I'm hungry.
124 | gmsc Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:55:22am |
125 | freetoken Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:55:27am |
re: #122 axegrinder
Charles has made it quite clear that LGF is a zero tolerance zone when it comes to racism. And by "zero tolerance" is meant zero tolerance, not .001 tolerance.
If anyone here hasn't gotten that by now... then there is nothing we can do to help.
126 | pink freud Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:57:56am |
127 | Neutral President Sat, Jul 25, 2009 12:59:37am |
re: #93 gmsc
I see they changed the name from TR2N.
128 | gmsc Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:03:36am |
re: #127 ArchangelMichael
I see they changed the name from TR2N.
I think I like "2.0" better than "Legacy".
The movie I'd really like to see? Shatnerquake!
TJ Hooker, Captain Kirk, the Priceline guy, the nervous guy who saw the gremlin on the wing at 30,000 feet, and more, all battling William Shatner!
We need to do this while William Shatner can still take the part!
129 | Throbert McGee Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:03:59am |
re: #20 Rob with a mind
So to quote Rob" Ouch, Ouch, please Stop!!
ThrobDudeNoVA37: I continue to viciously smack your pathetic freshman face with my engorged 10" of Polish/Irish kielbasa...
RwaM: Ouch! PLEASE STOP!
ThrobDudeNoVA37: Less whining, more licking your hot 6'3" Marine ROTC goateed cigar-smoking lacrosse player frat bro's big sweaty BALLS, pledge! *smack smack smack*
RwaM: Ouch, Ouch! please Stop!!
ThrobDudeNoVA37: um hang on, got another IM request... brb...
130 | axegrinder Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:05:06am |
True enough. BTW, I never noticed before my enhanced sensitivity but I bet you wouldn't pick that handle if you were registering today, would ya? Perhaps an avatar change to be safe or I'm i misinterpreting the reference?
131 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:05:44am |
132 | sngnsgt Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:06:37am |
I have to admit it. The Democrats were right!...
They told me if I voted for McCain, ... the nation's Hope would deteriorate, and
sure enough there has been a 20 point drop in the Consumer Confidence Index
since the election, reaching a lower point than any time during the Bush
administration.
They told me if I voted for McCain, ...the US would become more deeply embroiled
in Afghanistan, and sure enough tens of thousands of additional troops are
scheduled to be deployed into Afghanistan.
They told me if I voted for McCain, ...that the economy would get worse and sure
enough unemployment is approaching 10% with no end in sight.
They told me if I voted for McCain, ...we would see more "crooks" in high ranking
positions in Federal government and sure enough, several recent cabinet nominees
and Senate appointments revealed resumes of scandal, bribery and tax fraud.
They told me if I voted for McCain, ... we would see more "Pork at the trough" in
Federal government and sure enough, 17,500 "Pork Bills" showed up in Congress
in the past three weeks...
They told me if I voted for McCain, ...we would see more deficit spending in DC
and sure enough, Obama has spent more in 30 days than all other Presidents
together in the history of the good ole USA ...
Well I ignored my Democrat friends in November and voted for McCain.
And they were right... All of their predictions have come true
133 | Neutral President Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:06:40am |
re: #128 gmsc
I think I like "2.0" better than "Legacy".
The movie I'd really like to see? Shatnerquake!
TJ Hooker, Captain Kirk, the Priceline guy, the nervous guy who saw the gremlin on the wing at 30,000 feet, and more, all battling William Shatner!
We need to do this while William Shatner can still take the part!
Well 2.0 was the video game, which was actually a good game (despite the million annoying "jumping puzzles") but Disney decided to not spend a dime promoting it. I don't even know if I can get patches for it if I decide to reinstall it.
136 | gmsc Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:08:34am |
re: #134 pink freud
I read that as "still take the pain" LOL
We need to make that movie while he can still do that, too.
137 | gmsc Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:08:42am |
138 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:08:43am |
139 | freetoken Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:10:34am |
re: #130 axegrinder
If you are speaking to me... yes, I would still pick the handle I'm using now... and the avatar will go when the need for it has lessened.
140 | Neutral President Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:11:10am |
re: #132 sngnsgt
I dont know if its all 100% true but its close enough and it made me laugh so updinged. For some reason I cant figure out I just feel like crap and it's not just the normal 'OMG there 3.5 years of Obama to go' kind of crap either.
141 | gmsc Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:12:54am |
OK, we've had a little action via cartoons. How about a little live action from Louis Gossett, Jr. and Richard Pryor via an early TV appearance?
142 | gmsc Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:13:07am |
143 | axegrinder Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:18:01am |
re: #139 freetoken
If you are speaking to me... yes, I would still pick the handle I'm using now... and the avatar will go when the need for it has lessened.
Well alright then. I c you've been around since before Obama was an issue so it was a dumb question on my part anyway. Time for me get moving. Having a pleasant day or night or whatever. Later lizards.
146 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:24:05am |
147 | gmsc Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:24:29am |
148 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:24:55am |
150 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:26:07am |
151 | gmsc Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:26:59am |
154 | gmsc Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:32:07am |
re: #152 littleoldlady
The AP is so last century!
...and working on keeping themselves that way:
Taking a new hard line that news articles should not turn up on search engines and Web sites without permission, The Associated Press said Thursday that it would add software to each article that shows what limits apply to the rights to use it, and that notifies The A.P. about how the article is used.
Tom Curley, The A.P.’s president and chief executive, said the company’s position was that even minimal use of a news article online required a licensing agreement with the news organization that produced it. In an interview, he specifically cited references that include a headline and a link to an article, a standard practice of search engines like Google, Bing and Yahoo, news aggregators and blogs.
Asked if that stance went further than The A.P. had gone before, he said, “That’s right.” The company envisions a campaign that goes far beyond The A.P., a nonprofit corporation. It wants the 1,400 American newspapers that own the company to join the effort and use its software.
“If someone can build multibillion-dollar businesses out of keywords, we can build multihundred-million businesses out of headlines, and we’re going to do that,” Mr. Curley said. The goal, he said, was not to have less use of the news articles, but to be paid for any use.
155 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:33:37am |
re: #151 gmsc
I agree with the article. But I suspect as the new media expands, many of the old wire organizations will go by the wayside. Most are so liberal, that I don't care. This is the true "fairness doctrine".
156 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:34:09am |
re: #154 gmsc
that news articles should not turn up on search engines and Web sites without permission
Hey! I have an idea! Let's bury them in the back yard!
157 | SFGoth Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:34:22am |
Re: Drudge's headline per Obama: "Hot Mess" -- no secret I've bashed both Bush presidents, but no one with any integrity or honesty would ever accuse either one of them of not being decent persons who wouldn't wade into a local police matter like Obama has. Lordette, what a buffooon we have for a president. At this point, I'd prefer our first black president over our second. At least when he offered to have a beer with you, you knew that at least *that* was legit.
158 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:35:19am |
159 | gmsc Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:35:23am |
re: #156 littleoldlady
Hey! I have an idea! Let's bury them in the back yard!
It sounds like they're doing that with their own shovels as we type!
161 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:40:31am |
re: #158 littleoldlady
Somebody, sooner or later, will decide that the AP is Too Big To Fail.
:-(
Yeah. I know. I would almost bet that some of the "stimulus" money went to some of these organizations to keep them churning out the propaganda. Change!
162 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:42:01am |
re: #161 Soona'
I'm not sure how MSNBC would still be afloat otherwise.
/I promise to make more sense when I get a sufficient quantity of coffee in me...
165 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:47:30am |
re: #164 littleoldlady
Matrix! :-)
That Amazon link prompted me to go inside the kitchen and get two rice krispie treats fresh from my supermarket bakery.
/not as good as homemade, of course.
166 | gmsc Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:47:51am |
Great random thoughts from around the web:
IF HEALTHCARE IS A “RIGHT,” why does it depend on what the government says you can have?
167 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:48:01am |
re: #162 littleoldlady
I'm not sure how MSNBC would still be afloat otherwise.
/I promise to make more sense when I get a sufficient quantity of coffee in me...
I've never watched MSNBC unless I'm stuck at the airport and they have to TV's tuned to it. Even then I try to find another diversion. Now that I think about it, I've never seen anything except CNN or MSNBC on airport TV's. What's with that?
169 | coquimbojoe Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:50:16am |
Hit and run Joe attack! Good morning and good night! I am taking my fruitcup to bed!!!
170 | Panhandler Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:52:21am |
This seals the deal, for the good of all, I'm going to have to go into debt for a 60" plasma.
172 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:53:01am |
If I take a Gas-X and a glass of Alka-Seltzer, will my stomach explode or implode?
173 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:53:16am |
re: #168 littleoldlady
They sell them in bakeries?
/who knew?
I had never seen them in before that night. It was like fate.
174 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:54:41am |
re: #172 Soona'
They should cancel each other out, no?
/which is not to say you're gonna feel so hot...
176 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 1:59:56am |
re: #170 Panhandler
By all accounts, that's a small eagle. We have them here, and they're about the size of pterodactyls. I've had them fly directly overhead (since they fear nothing) and you'd think you were being hazed by a 747.
177 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:00:03am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*™
Fruitcup is on the buffet → → → → →
Help yourselves!
180 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:01:14am |
re: #177 littleoldlady
Preceisely why I stopped in this evening. And I'll have a big chunk of Rice Krispie bar on the side, if there's any left, thank you. I even like those stale ;-)
182 | gmsc Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:01:33am |
re: #177 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*™
Fruitcup is on the buffet → → → → →
Help yourselves!
I've missed fruitcup so much! Absence makes the fruitcup grow fonder!
183 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:02:32am |
re: #177 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*™
Fruitcup is on the buffet → → → → →
Help yourselves!
Ah, fruitcup. (to hell with the medicine)
185 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:04:05am |
re: #184 littleoldlady
How is your garden growing? I have some freaky stuff going on here. Forever trying to grow stuff out of my "zone" and keep it alive. So far, I've had pretty good luck.
186 | Panhandler Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:04:07am |
re: #176 theheat
US2 running south of Glacier Park is a mad house in the fall during the salmon run, eagles in every tree - they come thousands of miles for the buffet, oh, and the bears too.
187 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:04:38am |
Panhandler! :-)
/SO cute!
gmsc! :-)
And I've missed YOU!
Soona' :-)
Fruitcup...Chicken Soup for Green Scaly Reptiles
/...or something like that ;-)
188 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:04:52am |
re: #177 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*™
Fruitcup is on the buffet → → → → →
Help yourselves!
Thank you :)
189 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:05:44am |
re: #186 Panhandler
Here, they eat rodents... and small pets. No disputing they are top of the food chain. They're awesome birds. We have several families of them at our place, and the place next door.
190 | gmsc Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:06:22am |
I'd better get going. Busy day tomorrow, running around getting stuff done.
Good night, all!
191 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:07:33am |
re: #185 theheat
What a waste this year! The deer have expanded their menu to include nearly everything. Lambs ears?! Phlox? Autumn sedum?! Even oxalis (sp?) - ALL gone. :-( They're even eating the weeds.
Cleome, cockscomb and yucca are all that's left.
What zone to you grow in?
192 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:07:44am |
re: #186 Panhandler
US2 running south of Glacier Park is a mad house in the fall during the salmon run, eagles in every tree - they come thousands of miles for the buffet, oh, and the bears too.
We almost have an overabundance of eagles here in Oklahoma. Got a lot of turkey buzzards too.
193 | freetoken Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:07:50am |
re: #177 littleoldlady
Fruitcup is on the buffet → → → → →
Yay!!!
Fancy watermelons for us!
But... Lol... aren't you worried that if you keep using these $560 watermelons you will break the budget?:
194 | Panhandler Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:08:11am |
re: #189 theheat
Not too many eagles right here on the edge of the Gulf Coast, ospreys on the other hand are making a big comeback.
195 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:08:23am |
Matrix,
Next time you're at the bakery get something (chocolate) for the buffet, okay?
196 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:09:45am |
freetoken! :-)
What? Me worry? I can always sell them to the government for double the money...
197 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:10:35am |
re: #195 littleoldlady
Matrix,
Next time you're at the bakery get something (chocolate) for the buffet, okay?
Sounds good, but it'll have to be something chocolately that I like, and I'm not a huge fan of chocolate believe it or not ;)
199 | Panhandler Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:11:57am |
200 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:12:07am |
201 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:12:16am |
re: #191 littleoldlady
We're zones 8-9, though we've seen some extreme temps in the past few years on either end of the spectrum.
I'm growing bananas, some "false" red yucca from Texas, Italian cypress, and I'm trying about four kinds of New Zealand flax (from seed). I'm not one that can be happy growing the normal stuff. I always have to see how far I can push it and keep it all alive. The flax, from seed, is a bitch goddess.
The horses have been on deer patrol. It's the first year all my kinds of iris stood a chance. And they say deer don't eat iris. Bullshit!
203 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:14:54am |
re: #197 TheMatrix31
I'm not a huge fan of chocolate believe it or not ;)
I recommend intense therapy to get over that.
204 | Panhandler Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:15:36am |
205 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:16:51am |
re: #201 theheat
We're zones 8-9, though we've seen some extreme temps in the past few years on either end of the spectrum.
I'm growing bananas, some "false" red yucca from Texas, Italian cypress, and I'm trying about four kinds of New Zealand flax (from seed). I'm not one that can be happy growing the normal stuff. I always have to see how far I can push it and keep it all alive. The flax, from seed, is a bitch goddess.
The horses have been on deer patrol. It's the first year all my kinds of iris stood a chance. And they say deer don't eat iris. Bullshit!
I've never seen so many urban deer than what I saw in Austin, TX this last spring.
206 | Panhandler Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:17:42am |
207 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:20:15am |
re: #201 theheat
Oh, zone 8/9! I'm jealous!
Deer eat EVERYTHING, (I learned this year). My "David" phlox, which I look forward to every year, are right under our bedroom window! Trampled and chewed!
/what was the dog doing when the deer were practically in the HOUSE?!
//wait a minute...I need a HORSE?
///this could get complicated...
208 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:20:27am |
re: #205 Soona'
It's sad, because they're losing their native habitat, and moving into the city. Same with lots of other critters. In our area, with all the development going on, these last outposts of forests and trees are becoming more and more saturated with the displaced animals. Our place has become a haven for every displaced creature within miles. I've never seen so many deer, coyotes, eagles - you name it. It's beginning to look like a freakin' zoo here. Pretty soon we'll be charging admission.
210 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:21:15am |
re: #203 theheat
I recommend intense therapy to get over that.
I'm good when the chocolate involves peanut butter or caramel ;)
211 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:22:50am |
re: #207 littleoldlady
Oh, zone 8/9! I'm jealous!
Deer eat EVERYTHING, (I learned this year). My "David" phlox, which I look forward to every year, are right under our bedroom window! Trampled and chewed!
/what was the dog doing when the deer were practically in the HOUSE?!
//wait a minute...I need a HORSE?
///this could get complicated...
Won't horses chew and trample stuff too?
212 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:23:24am |
re: #207 littleoldlady
Maybe you need an Irish Wolfhound, or something more formidable? I know from experience JRTs are useless.
The horses have become pretty territorial about the whole thing, and will run the deer down like maniacs. But they're hard as hell to housebreak, and their litterbox is a nightmare.
214 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:25:19am |
re: #211 Soona'
Horses won't bother the iris. They like horse food. But our iris is planted by a pond onthe property, not in the gardens up by the house.
Horses in the yard = another bad idea. Last time I put one in the yard because I was too lazy to mow, he tried to come in the house. He actually was walking up the stairs on the back deck.
Once they get ahold of the remote, they'll hog the television, too.
215 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:25:44am |
Good Morning LGF.
Where does the f&*(@$! summer sun go on weekends?
216 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:25:50am |
re: #208 theheat
It's sad, because they're losing their native habitat, and moving into the city. Same with lots of other critters. In our area, with all the development going on, these last outposts of forests and trees are becoming more and more saturated with the displaced animals. Our place has become a haven for every displaced creature within miles. I've never seen so many deer, coyotes, eagles - you name it. It's beginning to look like a freakin' zoo here. Pretty soon we'll be charging admission.
I think a lot of it is the animals have figured out that it's in the city where all the really tasty food is. Be it a vegetable garden, pet...etc.
217 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:27:00am |
re: #213 littleoldlady
Your neighbors should do a study before jumping to conclusions like that.
218 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:27:34am |
re: #215 Spare O'Lake
Good Morning LGF.
Where does the f&*(@$! summer sun go on weekends?
I don't know, but I could do without it. Totally dying for fall/winter already!
219 | Panhandler Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:27:59am |
220 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:28:50am |
re: #216 Soona'
They go where the food is, that's for sure. What I've found, is any predator would rather eat chicken - my chickens - than anything they're supposed to eat. I don't give a damn what it says in the textbooks, if they're a predator, they'd rather eat chicken. Rodents, road kill? Hell no, they go straight for the chicken.
221 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:30:06am |
re: #215 Spare O'Lake
Good Morning LGF.
Where does the f&*(@$! summer sun go on weekends?
Spare! :-)
222 | Panhandler Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:32:31am |
re: #220 theheat
Wait until Fall when the beasties hear about Turduken.
223 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:33:39am |
re: #220 theheat
They go where the food is, that's for sure. What I've found, is any predator would rather eat chicken - my chickens - than anything they're supposed to eat. I don't give a damn what it says in the textbooks, if they're a predator, they'd rather eat chicken. Rodents, road kill? Hell no, they go straight for the chicken.
In the rural town where I grew up, a guy raised pidgeons as a hobby and their cages were constantly raided by a local bobcat. He tried all sorts of ways to keep it out of the cages, but that bobcat would eventually figure it out. They never did get that bobcat.
224 | Panhandler Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:36:35am |
225 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:37:04am |
226 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:37:15am |
re: #222 Panhandler
Are you saying I should expand my menu?!
re: #223 Soona'
I've become sort of a vigilante about all the predators we've acquired. I'm beginning to wonder if bald eagle "tastes just like chicken," if you get my drift. Possums, raccoons, eagles, owls, hawks, coyotes - I'm telling you - it's a dog-eat-dog world out here in the sticks. Per acre, we probably have the most predators of anywhere in the U.S. It's pretty strange, and getting stranger by the moment.
231 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:40:19am |
re: #226 theheat
Are you saying I should expand my menu?!
re: #223 Soona'
I've become sort of a vigilante about all the predators we've acquired. I'm beginning to wonder if bald eagle "tastes just like chicken," if you get my drift. Possums, raccoons, eagles, owls, hawks, coyotes - I'm telling you - it's a dog-eat-dog world out here in the sticks. Per acre, we probably have the most predators of anywhere in the U.S. It's pretty strange, and getting stranger by the moment.
You think you've seen predators. Just wait until the zero let's loose ACORN for the census next year.
232 | Panhandler Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:40:48am |
re: #225 littleoldlady
Easy lol, the caloric count is through the roof - but one little plate?
233 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:40:50am |
re: #224 Panhandler
I didn't look it up, but I think there was another youtube of a parrot (or some kind of bird - a crow?) that was stealing Cheetos or Doritos from a convenience store. Every day, he'd walk in, and steal a bag of chips.
235 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:42:33am |
re: #231 Soona'
I wonder of the census takers and eagles taste like chicken.
We have property and a pond, and sit back from the road. A lot of stuff that comes here never gets out again ;-)
236 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:42:46am |
re: #232 Panhandler
Do they sell them pre-made?
/the thought of CONSTRUCTING an animal...
//bad enough when I have to clean out turkey innards!
237 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:42:46am |
re: #233 theheat
I didn't look it up, but I think there was another youtube of a parrot (or some kind of bird - a crow?) that was stealing Cheetos or Doritos from a convenience store. Every day, he'd walk in, and steal a bag of chips.
Crows are famous for that.
238 | Panhandler Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:43:24am |
re: #227 rightside
Starboard! Need any lamp oil? Rhumb line? Relative bearing grease?
240 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:44:10am |
re: #237 Soona'
Crows can also form rudimentary tools, like out of wire. A study showed that crows would take a piece of wire, push it into a bottle to bend it to a shape, and use it to fish out a treat. They're a damn smart bird. Pesky, but smart.
241 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:44:12am |
242 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:44:26am |
re: #235 theheat
I wonder of the census takers and eagles taste like chicken.
We have property and a pond, and sit back from the road. A lot of stuff that comes here never gets out again ;-)
Mmmm. Census takers.
/Homer off
243 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:44:36am |
245 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:45:37am |
re: #240 theheat
Crows can also form rudimentary tools, like out of wire. A study showed that crows would take a piece of wire, push it into a bottle to bend it to a shape, and use it to fish out a treat. They're a damn smart bird. Pesky, but smart.
And loud.
246 | Panhandler Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:45:40am |
247 | rightside Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:46:15am |
re: #238 Panhandler
lol, no, but some fresh joe would be good. Bosun is brewin' up some now.
248 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:46:44am |
249 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:46:51am |
re: #243 littleoldlady
Let me tell you , heron eat chicken, too. That's some trivia I dare you to find in any publication. I distinctly remember standing outside one morning, before dawn, and seeing an enormous heron flying about 15 feet above me, packing about ten 7-8 show bird.
Everything eats chicken. I don't give a rip what the books say.
250 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:47:39am |
251 | freetoken Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:47:56am |
re: #244 theheat
"Sam" apparently has gained some fame, as there are a couple of videos of him, in the crime act, on Youtube.
252 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:48:29am |
re: #246 Panhandler
WOW. I hope I win the Powerball!
/wait a minute...if I win the Powerball I can ship US to the turduken instead of visa versa!
;-)
253 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:49:09am |
re: #249 theheat
Let me tell you , heron eat chicken, too. That's some trivia I dare you to find in any publication. I distinctly remember standing outside one morning, before dawn, and seeing an enormous heron flying about 15 feet above me, packing about ten 7-8 show bird.
Everything eats chicken. I don't give a rip what the books say.
It's because chickens are too stupid to organize.
254 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:49:10am |
re: #245 Soona'
Not a very well liked bird, but underestimated.
255 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:49:31am |
re: #250 Spare O'Lake
Yeah, sometimes my nose slips ;_)
256 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:50:41am |
re: #253 Soona'
In the big scheme of things, they never rise above prey.
257 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:51:17am |
re: #249 theheat
Let me tell you , heron eat chicken, too. That's some trivia I dare you to find in any publication. I distinctly remember standing outside one morning, before dawn, and seeing an enormous heron flying about 15 feet above me, packing about ten 7-8 show bird.
Everything eats chicken. I don't give a rip what the books say.
That would raise the heron my neck.
258 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:51:33am |
re: #249 theheat
My brother-in-law had those fancy Chinese chickens (I think that's what they're called - the fluffy ones) in a very secure double coop.
/too bad, they were really neat looking
I don't think he ever found out exactly WHAT got them. The line in front of the coop was pretty long...
259 | Panhandler Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:53:21am |
260 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:54:08am |
re: #254 theheat
Not a very well liked bird, but underestimated.
The edible, underestimated chicken. That's almost a slogan.
261 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:54:23am |
re: #257 Spare O'Lake
It certainly makes you wonder. I remember shaking my fist at him, like Snoopy at the Red Baron. All pointless, of course.
Then, some knowitall will tell you, "Oh, herons only eat fish."
Sure they do.
262 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:56:58am |
re: #258 littleoldlady
They were probably Cochins, with the fluffy feet and round bottoms. Very nice birds, and they come in all kinds of neat colors. We've had them.
It's really frustrating when your birds keep getting killed, and there's no culprit to hold accountable.
263 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:58:03am |
Don't ever let a group of herons nest over a backyard. They'll leave one of the nastiest messes you'll ever see.
264 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:58:38am |
re: #261 theheat
It certainly makes you wonder. I remember shaking my fist at him, like Snoopy at the Red Baron. All pointless, of course.
Then, some knowitall will tell you, "Oh, herons only eat fish."
Sure they do.
How did the heron carry the chicken?
And don't tell me it raptor around its beak.
265 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:59:16am |
re: #263 Soona'
Is it worse than Canadian geese? I think a herd of yaks isn't as bad as Canadian geese.
267 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 2:59:47am |
re: #262 theheat
They were probably Cochins, with the fluffy feet and round bottoms. Very nice birds, and they come in all kinds of neat colors. We've had them.
It's really frustrating when your birds keep getting killed, and there's no culprit to hold accountable.
{hick}
268 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:01:07am |
re: #265 theheat
Is it worse than Canadian geese? I think a herd of yaks isn't as bad as Canadian geese.
At a certain time of year they congregate in a cemetery that's about 4 blocks from here. The entire neighborhood STINKS! :-(
269 | Panhandler Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:01:31am |
re: #267 Soona'
So THAT'S how you spend your weekends in Baja Oklahoma.
270 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:01:44am |
re: #264 Spare O'Lake
Yes, from the beak. Physically, it doesn't look possible, but it is.
272 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:02:20am |
How edible are Canadian Geese?
/Not that I'm anticipating double-digit inflation and double-digit unemployment in the near-future...nosirree...
274 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:02:57am |
275 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:04:16am |
276 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:05:05am |
re: #270 theheat
Yes, from the beak. Physically, it doesn't look possible, but it is.
Actually, it's the chickens' own damn fault. They keep running out in the open, trying to cross the road.
277 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:07:10am |
re: #268 littleoldlady
At a certain time of year they congregate in a cemetery that's about 4 blocks from here. The entire neighborhood STINKS! :-(
I think it may be a religious tradition - does it happen just before yontif?
278 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:08:57am |
279 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:09:02am |
re: #275 theheat
I heard about a bunch of them getting gassed in NYC awhile back (after that plane made an emergency-landing in the Hudson) because they didn't want them anywhere near the LaGuardia runways...
My first thought was 'What a waste- instead of gassing them, why not let some of the chefs from Chinatown have at them'
280 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:09:58am |
re: #276 Soona'
The ones that claimed, "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!" Maybe they were onto something?
Another warning system that didn't work out very well.
281 | haakondahl Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:09:59am |
re: #253 Soona'
It's because chickens are too stupid to organize.
This reminds me of why I eat beef. Because cattle are so offensively, confoundingly, infuriatingly STUPID. I just hate cows, and any chance I get to have a slice of one means one less cow to trip over in the long long line of very stupid things waiting around for destruction. So I'll have a burger from this cow, and a steak from that one over there, if you don't mind. If they had steak restaurants like sushi restaurants, where you get to point to the condemned fish, I'd love to head out back with a mallet and brain the damned ruminant myself. BAP!
I got yer Holstein print right here.
282 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:11:13am |
Gotta crawl back into my crypt, the sun will be coming up. So long, everyone.
283 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:11:33am |
re: #279 Fenway_Nation
I'm thinking you're onto a government coverup.
284 | Panhandler Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:11:43am |
re: #272 Fenway_Nation
Goose is goose, wild or domestic, bit greasy compared to turkey but the traditional Christmas bird until the Americas and turkeys were discovered (See A Christmas Carol)
287 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:13:49am |
re: #281 haakondahl
haakon! :-)
So...you eat things because they're stupid?
/quick! somebody better hide the liberals! they're in danger!
;-)
288 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:14:23am |
re: #284 Panhandler
My sister cooks a wicked goose. She's made both duck and goose for holiday dinners before. Hers are never so greasy they make you gag. Just tasty.
289 | Panhandler Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:15:04am |
re: #280 theheat
Geese are super territorial, especially when there are goslings. Watch geese were and in some areas still quite prevelant in Europe, they're loud and they can fly and BITE.
290 | Soona' Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:15:12am |
re: #280 theheat
The ones that claimed, "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!" Maybe they were onto something?
Another warning system that didn't work out very well.
Scoreboard: Herons - 534
Chickens - 0
(It's time to change their gameplan)
291 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:15:54am |
Okay, that's it for me, too...gotta run!
Good day, ALL!™
292 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:17:03am |
re: #291 littleoldlady
Bye LoL...thanks for the fruitcup!
293 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:17:25am |
re: #291 littleoldlady
Good night, and good luck on Deerwatch 2009. Plants everywhere are depending on you.
294 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:17:26am |
re: #281 haakondahl
This reminds me of why I eat beef. Because cattle are so offensively, confoundingly, infuriatingly STUPID. I just hate cows, and any chance I get to have a slice of one means one less cow to trip over in the long long line of very stupid things waiting around for destruction. So I'll have a burger from this cow, and a steak from that one over there, if you don't mind. If they had steak restaurants like sushi restaurants, where you get to point to the condemned fish, I'd love to head out back with a mallet and brain the damned ruminant myself. BAP!
I got yer Holstein print right here.
Eat only what you bonk and bonk only what you eat.
297 | haakondahl Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:18:59am |
re: #294 Spare O'Lake
Eat only what you bonk and bonk only what you eat.
So long as by Bonk you mean Bap.
298 | Panhandler Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:19:21am |
re: #288 theheat
Back in my callow youth in Western Montana I had a paper route. Heading out to begin the deliveries on my trusty Schwinn one AM and came across a freshly paved parking lot. A bunch of migrating Canada Geese apparantly thought it was a calm pond. Dead and crippled geese everywhere - the papers were late that day but we ate good for quite a spell.
299 | haakondahl Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:20:25am |
re: #287 littleoldlady
haakon! :-)
So...you eat things because they're stupid?
/quick! somebody better hide the liberals! they're in danger!
;-)
Well, cattle, while stupid, at least don't vote Democrat, so they're not all shrivelled and twisted on the inside. So the liberals are safe.
300 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:21:28am |
re: #298 Panhandler
Takeoff's the easy part, it's the landing they need to work on.
301 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:21:58am |
303 | Panhandler Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:24:29am |
re: #299 haakondahl
Well, cattle, while stupid, at least don't vote Democrat, so they're not all shrivelled and twisted on the inside. So the liberals are safe.
Being safe means you can take advantage without any moral qualms.
304 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:26:28am |
305 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:27:50am |
re: #304 Spare O'Lake
Ewe know it's a little early for all these puns...
306 | Panhandler Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:32:40am |
307 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:33:57am |
re: #306 Panhandler
Does this mean you're gonna be on the lamb?
308 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:34:19am |
re: #305 Fenway_Nation
Ewe know it's a little early for all these puns...
It's never too early for a really BAAAD pun.
309 | theheat Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:35:37am |
Well, I'm off to brew some coffee and sneak some work in. It's been real.
Good night!
310 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:35:51am |
re: #308 Spare O'Lake
Sitting through some of these puns is gonna be shear torture.
311 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:35:51am |
314 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:40:18am |
re: #311 Spare O'Lake
Looks like I was able to ram my bad pun just ahead of yours...
315 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:48:14am |
re: #314 Fenway_Nation
Looks like I was able to ram my bad pun just ahead of yours...
Yup you were just shofar ahead of me.
(Yiddish twist - "shofar" = ram's horn)
316 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:51:52am |
317 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:56:54am |
318 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:56:56am |
I wonder why I've reduced myself to discussing politics on a basketball message board.
Ugh.
319 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:59:42am |
re: #318 TheMatrix31
Why have you reduced yourself to talking politics on a message board?
320 | A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jul 25, 2009 3:59:55am |
re: #318 TheMatrix31
I wonder why I've reduced myself to discussing politics on a basketball message board.
Ugh.
Good Morning Lizards!
Where are we discussing Basketball? Weee!
321 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:01:39am |
re: #319 Fenway_Nation
Why have you reduced yourself to talking politics on a message board?
I've often thought about giving up on following politics, but I figure the country needs young conservatives with their political heads on straight.
HH, I was on RealGM's Suns Board. There's a thread about Obama's cop debacle that devolved into a general Obama thread.
322 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:02:37am |
re: #318 TheMatrix31
I wonder why I've reduced myself to discussing politics on a basketball message board.
Ugh.
Wipe your mouth please, you're dribbling.
323 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:03:14am |
re: #321 TheMatrix31
let me guess...it's an '0bama is awesome- how dare you question his awesome-ness?' thread
324 | A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:05:28am |
re: #321 TheMatrix31
I've often thought about giving up on following politics, but I figure the country needs young conservatives with their political heads on straight.
HH, I was on RealGM's Suns Board. There's a thread about Obama's cop debacle that devolved into a general Obama thread.
Good Morning Matrix! Hope you are well.
It is raining..thunder, lightning here...Hope we don't lose power. cause the lights are flickering...
325 | Simple Voice Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:08:16am |
Since I am from southern California, I would love to gloat about basketball. I mean, the Lakers are champs , so we have scoreboard. ( For the moment.)
But I could never really buy into a team sport where the clock can beat you.
For me, baseball is the ultimate team sport, because the clock can't beat you. You have to get the other team out at least 27 times in order to win.
326 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:11:31am |
re: #325 Simple Voice
While Massachusetts is famous for it's stupid, racist cops running rogue and terrorizing ivy-lague faculty.
/
327 | Simple Voice Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:11:43am |
re: #272 Fenway_Nation
Throw a little tabasco sauce on those geese, and bet they are quite edible.
328 | A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:11:43am |
re: #325 Simple Voice
Since I am from southern California, I would love to gloat about basketball. I mean, the Lakers are champs , so we have scoreboard. ( For the moment.)
But I could never really buy into a team sport where the clock can beat you.
For me, baseball is the ultimate team sport, because the clock can't beat you. You have to get the other team out at least 27 times in order to win.
ouch! Take any baseball player..put him on the court with Kobe for 5 minutes and watch him drop dead from exhaustion...The best Athletes in the world are Ballers..Flat out...A baseball player is not in the same class as the fastest, Strongest players...:)
329 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:12:53am |
re: #323 Fenway_Nation
let me guess...it's an '0bama is awesome- how dare you question his awesome-ness?' thread
Surprisingly, it isn't! Only a few select posts are like that.
My comment of --
Anyone with a BRAIN knew it would be like this from the beginning. If people actually did their research, we wouldn't have this problem. Everything's unfolded EXACTLY as I've expected it to.
got responded to with
Pack some sand BH... anyone with a Brain ???
I guess anyone who voted for him was stupid ???And I suppose the 'smart' play was McCain't ?
Are we to always play the 'lessor of 2 evils'. That game tires me. Besides... it is Congress that has far more influence on the direction of this nation.But you go ahead and keep on rooting for Obama's failure, ready to smuggly toss out your 'I told ya so"s... just realize until this country comes together and the populace quits falling prey to the divisive media and political hate-speak our government will remain a stagnant stumbling block to the progress of this nation.
I don't agree with a lot of whats going on... but you'll see no victory dance when things don't work out.
And that sparked the rant from me.
re: #322 Spare O'Lake
Wipe your mouth please, you're dribbling.
I'll stop dribbling when people stop shooting their mouths off!re: #324 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Matrix! Hope you are well.
It is raining..thunder, lightning here...Hope we don't lose power. cause the lights are flickering...
Doin' well man, just my last week of summer school before I can kick back and go on my vacation to KC, STL, and CHI. How about you?re: #325 Simple Voice
Since I am from southern California, I would love to gloat about basketball. I mean, the Lakers are champs , so we have scoreboard. ( For the moment.)
But I could never really buy into a team sport where the clock can beat you.
For me, baseball is the ultimate team sport, because the clock can't beat you. You have to get the other team out at least 27 times in order to win.
Hate the Lakers, but baseball is my favorite sport.
330 | BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:14:15am |
re: #328 HoosierHoops
Hey Hoops! How are you?
Did I see you lamenting the other day because Tom McGuire over at Just One Minute had joined the nirthers?
I was just over there and my god, that's a sorry sight. I'd liked that site and him in particular. Sad.
331 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:15:08am |
re: #321 TheMatrix31
I've often thought about giving up on following politics, but I figure the country needs young conservatives with their political heads on straight.
HH, I was on RealGM's Suns Board. There's a thread about Obama's cop debacle that devolved into a general Obama thread.
Where will all the conservatives being forced to leave the Republican party end up if not in the Democratic fold?
332 | Simple Voice Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:16:40am |
re: #328 HoosierHoops
I don't dispute the baseball players are not as athletic as basketball players. But for my money, the best athletes in the world are hockey players and horse jockeys.
When I was in the Marine Corps, the basketball players were always the first guys to drop out of the long distance runs.
333 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:17:45am |
re: #331 Spare O'Lake
Where will all the conservatives being forced to leave the Republican party end up if not in the Democratic fold?
It's late, I don't get the "fold" pun :-/
334 | A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:17:57am |
re: #330 iceweasel
Hey Hoops! How are you?
Did I see you lamenting the other day because Tom McGuire over at Just One Minute had joined the nirthers?
I was just over there and my god, that's a sorry sight. I'd liked that site and him in particular. Sad.
You have no idea sweetie... I came from there... a gaggle of really smart lawyers and people...So smart that the hoopster just couldn't hang a year ago...Heavy duty stuff. I return a year later and Tom turned into a nirther...
How are you my dear? Hope you are well
335 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:18:24am |
re: #329 TheMatrix31
The 0bamadrones seem to be counterattacking in the comments sections of various Boston media websites. Mostly with unsubtiantiated and unverifiable accounts of police brutality that they supposedly experienced firsthand (40 years ago, by some admissions) and how Sgt Crowley is no diferent from Bull Connor (I'm paraphrasing).
336 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:18:46am |
For my money, soccer players and professional wrestlers (the things those guys have to do and what they go through are unfathomable) are the best athletes.
337 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:20:19am |
re: #335 Fenway_Nation
The 0bamadrones seem to be counterattacking in the comments sections of various Boston media websites. Mostly with unsubtiantiated and unverifiable accounts of police brutality that they supposedly experienced firsthand (40 years ago, by some admissions) and how Sgt Crowley is no diferent from Bull Connor (I'm paraphrasing).
So sick of it. This racial story crap really has me incensed.
338 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:21:46am |
re: #333 TheMatrix31
It's late, I don't get the "fold" pun :-/
fold
n.
1. A fenced enclosure for domestic animals, especially sheep.
2. A flock of sheep.
3.
a. A group of people or institutions bound together by common beliefs and aims: "He is a living testament to the wisdom of admitting lay psychoanalysts into the official fold" (Jerome Bruner).
b. A religious congregation: The priest welcomed new parishioners into the fold.
339 | haakondahl Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:23:34am |
I'm about to post on the private thread--anybody interested, I have a question.
340 | A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:23:49am |
re: #332 Simple Voice
I don't dispute the baseball players are not as athletic as basketball players. But for my money, the best athletes in the world are hockey players and horse jockeys.
When I was in the Marine Corps, the basketball players were always the first guys to drop out of the long distance runs.
Horse jockeys? LOL
My son is the squad leader of 1st platoon..3/5 Marines...I promise you..You cannot outrun him...We spent years playing on the court when he grew up.
You know the Hills they make you run up at Camp P.? Try outrunning Jordan to the top and get back to me... *wink*
/proud dad
341 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:23:50am |
re: #338 Spare O'Lake
fold
n.
1. A fenced enclosure for domestic animals, especially sheep.
2. A flock of sheep.
3.
a. A group of people or institutions bound together by common beliefs and aims: "He is a living testament to the wisdom of admitting lay psychoanalysts into the official fold" (Jerome Bruner).
b. A religious congregation: The priest welcomed new parishioners into the fold.
LOL awesome. Here I was thinking about a game of poker!
342 | Throbert McGee Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:24:28am |
Erm... apologies for maybe being a bit too NC-17 in my comment above from a few hours ago. I do love bawdy humor leavened with a bit of disarming silliness, but sometimes I miscalculate the bawdy/silly ratio. Won't happen again.
P.S. Actually, I'm sure it will happen again, someday, but for now I shall strive to comport myself with more decorum, until I forget.
343 | Simple Voice Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:24:33am |
re: #337 TheMatrix31
The only thing I was looking forward to with the Obama administration was a cooling down of racial politics. Seems to me the race card is more frequently played now than ever before. Quite sad.
344 | BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:26:05am |
re: #334 HoosierHoops
You have no idea sweetie... I came from there... a gaggle of really smart lawyers and people...So smart that the hoopster just couldn't hang a year ago...Heavy duty stuff. I return a year later and Tom turned into a nirther...
How are you my dear? Hope you are well
Such a shame to see. I've never read the comments over there before, I don't think, but that post by TM is apparently acting to draw all the nirthers out of hiding over there. Really sad. The comments are mostly the standard nirther discussion one would expect, but there are even people trotting out this line of argument:
The best part of the whole thing is that it makes liberals heads explode. The same people who embraced truthism like it was the Rosetta stone, are working overtime to discredit an investigation that they say they don't fear.
Right, so nirtherism is wonderful and cool because it 'makes liberals heads explode', and I guess the fact that people keep debunking it is just more proof that the story is true, or else "liberals wouldn't be so afraid of it."
It's like Alice in Wonderland logic. Horrible.
Apart from that, I'm fine. :) How are you doing? How's Winston?
345 | BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:27:06am |
re: #342 Throbert McGee
Erm... apologies for maybe being a bit too NC-17 in my comment above from a few hours ago. I do love bawdy humor leavened with a bit of disarming silliness, but sometimes I miscalculate the bawdy/silly ratio. Won't happen again.
P.S. Actually, I'm sure it will happen again, someday, but for now I shall strive to comport myself with more decorum, until I forget.
heh. I loved your comment. But, liberal here, pottymouth and potty mind.
346 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:27:52am |
re: #337 TheMatrix31
I find myself unable to look away...kinda like a slow-mo wreck. I'm actually glad 0bama chose to involve himself in this. Maybe he thought he could've used it as a distraction for 0bamacare crashing and burning being administered end-of-life care, but people are starting to wonder if he screwed to pooch on something that would barely make the police blotter in a small-town newspaper, how could he get it right on something as complex and far-reaching as health-care.
There's a story further downthread about a report that Bush might've considered using US Troops to arrest terrorism suspects in Buffalo 6 years ago. I think that would've served as a distraction from 0bamacare and him throwing a whole Massachusetts police department under the bus...
347 | Bloodnok Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:29:21am |
re: #344 iceweasel
Right, so nirtherism is wonderful and cool because it 'makes liberals heads explode', and I guess the fact that people keep debunking it is just more proof that the story is true, or else "liberals wouldn't be so afraid of it."
The same defense is used for Sarah Palin.
And Good Morning! (new song, btw.)
349 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:30:33am |
re: #346 Fenway_Nation
There's a story further downthread about a report that Bush might've considered using US Troops to arrest terrorism suspects in Buffalo 6 years ago. I think that would've served as a distraction from 0bamacare and him throwing a whole Massachusetts police department under the bus...
I bet it still will! After all, we're still blaming Bush for everything else under the sun, right?!
Argh.
350 | Sharmuta Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:31:14am |
Good Morning, Lizards. Excuse me for a moment- I need to ding the fruitcup.
351 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:32:24am |
re: #349 TheMatrix31
re: #346 Fenway_Nation
I bet it still will! After all, we're still blaming Bush for everything else under the sun, right?!Argh.
I bet it was Bush's fault that Gates was arrested in the first place.
Bush used to own the Texas Rangers, so it must be his fault that the Red Sox got swept by them, too!
/Rove, you magnificent bastard!
352 | bbuddha Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:32:27am |
Good Morning all. It looks like we may have a sunny day here in Maine.
353 | A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:33:00am |
re: #344 iceweasel
I am so disappointed with that blog...maybe pissed off is the word...Oh well..
Remember when i teased you about seeing you on the Spanish Rivera yesterday? The underlying story is that I had a buddy go there a while back and he took pictures on the beach..And none of the girls had tops on...
I was teasing you...Hope you are well
354 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:33:04am |
355 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:33:34am |
Hey guys... with the recent "Sticking" I will dub the last few days using Cheech and Chong's bit on "Crabs (the louse)"...
"I remember the great kerosene flood. I lost six million brothers and sisters."
"The Great Kerosene Flood."
I know I don't have the authority to dub... But I'ma dubbin'!
356 | BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:34:10am |
re: #347 Bloodnok
Right, so nirtherism is wonderful and cool because it 'makes liberals heads explode', and I guess the fact that people keep debunking it is just more proof that the story is true, or else "liberals wouldn't be so afraid of it."
The same defense is used for Sarah Palin.
And Good Morning! (new song, btw.)
Hey cutie! How are you?
(I thought of the Palin parallel too. Sad. )
I'm loving the song. Naturally. Love the Smiths! What could be better than Radiohead covering them?
A radiohead cover of joy division comes close!
357 | A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:36:07am |
re: #352 bbuddha
Good Morning all. It looks like we may have a sunny day here in Maine.
Rainy..Thunder and lightning here...It will clear up for NASCAR race Sunday.
I love Camden Maine...where are you at approx?
358 | bbuddha Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:36:44am |
re: #354 Fenway_Nation
Ahhh, a King Fan? I live in the great (?) capitol city.
359 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:36:59am |
On the one hand, a certain minimum level of public respect and support for the police is necessary for them to be able to function efficiently and with good morale.
On the other hand, because police are part of the government and are entrusted with extraordinary powers, we must be vigilant so as not to allow them to abuse their powers or to infringe on the rights of law-abiding citizens.
Minority members with big chips on their shoulders are nevertheless entitled to the same rights as all citizens - no more and no less.
360 | bbuddha Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:38:14am |
re: #357 HoosierHoops
We had our rain and wind yesterday. Nice to get it out of the way during the week.
361 | Sharmuta Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:38:42am |
re: #355 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hey guys... with the recent "Sticking" I will dub the last few days using Cheech and Chong's bit on "Crabs (the louse)"...
"I remember the great kerosene flood. I lost six million brothers and sisters."
"The Great Kerosene Flood."
I know I don't have the authority to dub... But I'ma dubbin'!
I was thinking "Thursday Afternoon Massacre" might not work anymore, since this is now a two day event. Feels a little like having a three hour tour turn into years stuck on a deserted island. A three hour tour!
362 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:40:46am |
re: #358 bbuddha
Hate to say it, but I never had the chance to venture further north of Lewiston in New England's Biggest State...
363 | bbuddha Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:40:47am |
re: #359 Spare O'Lake
On the one hand, a certain minimum level of public respect and support for the police is necessary for them to be able to function efficiently and with good morale.
On the other hand, because police are part of the government and are entrusted with extraordinary powers, we must be vigilant so as not to allow them to abuse their powers or to infringe on the rights of law-abiding citizens.
Minority members with big chips on their shoulders are nevertheless entitled to the same rights as all citizens - no more and no less.
Hey, that's what I said. I never thought it was a racial thing and Obama was so wrong to jump in that but I tend to side with citizens; I've seen too may cops "bruise" their authority
364 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:40:49am |
I thought special event names were reserved for things that actually mattered? We lost three "regulars", but the rest were worthless, weren't they?
365 | bbuddha Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:41:47am |
re: #362 Fenway_Nation
Lewiston? Yuck. Please don't think that city is indicative of the state.
367 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:42:19am |
re: #361 Sharmuta
I was thinking "Thursday Afternoon Massacre" might not work anymore, since this is now a two day event. Feels a little like having a three hour tour turn into years stuck on a deserted island. A three hour tour!
When large numbers are eliminated in a short time the word "purge" comes to mind. nttawwt
368 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:42:27am |
re: #361 Sharmuta
Me too, until the time expanded... I like the whole "flood" and Kerosene (for the reasons of purging parasites) meme...
369 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:43:18am |
re: #365 bbuddha
I'm half-seriously thinking of applying for work for the company that took over the tattered remnants of the Bangor and Aroostak (among others).
370 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:44:02am |
371 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:44:08am |
re: #362 Fenway_Nation
Hate to say it, but I never had the chance to venture further north of Lewiston in New England's Biggest State...
A-yeah.
A-yup
How is that Maine, nor-eastern "yes" pronounced?
372 | freetoken Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:45:12am |
375 | haakondahl Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:46:18am |
re: #350 Sharmuta
Good Morning, Lizards. Excuse me for a moment- I need to ding the fruitcup.
Uh, take all the time you need.
376 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:46:31am |
re: #374 bbuddha
Yup...altho' they operate in Vermont, Quebec and New Brunswick, too...
377 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:46:42am |
re: #372 freetoken
"The Racist event"
"The Nose Bone event"
"The McKalip Flap"Anything worth using?
Strike Three?
378 | Sharmuta Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:47:33am |
re: #372 freetoken
"The Racist event"
"The Nose Bone event"
"The McKalip Flap"Anything worth using?
The Beaumontathon.
379 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:47:44am |
380 | bbuddha Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:48:56am |
re: #371 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
A-yeah.
A-yupHow is that Maine, nor-eastern "yes" pronounced?
doesn't really lend it self to being written down. Yea(t) is the closest approximation. I've lived too long all over the place to really have the Maine accent but my other half can really do it up, cracks me up everytime.
383 | bbuddha Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:51:33am |
Uh Oh, There are clouds rolling in. I already started laundry because I thought I'd have time to dry ...damn...
384 | Gus Sat, Jul 25, 2009 4:55:16am |
Ah yes. Another day and already the water chiller (uses a fan coil system) for cooling the apartment units is down. Add to that it's the weekend crew. Thank goodness for my portable AC.
388 | A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:00:30am |
re: #386 Sharmuta
I like Beaumontathon. Stinky's earned some props.
Hey you! Hope today finds you well
389 | Gus Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:01:20am |
re: #387 bbuddha
(yawn) Had to get some coffee
Just started here. After that it's some unground beans then I have to go to the coffee shop to spend more money I don't have.
390 | Sharmuta Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:01:41am |
re: #388 HoosierHoops
Hi, {Hoops}. Just waiting on word from a couple friends, but other than that I'm doing well this morning. How are you, Dear? How's the guest post coming along?
391 | bbuddha Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:02:32am |
re: #389 Gus 802
I'm a philistine, I buy mine already ground.
392 | UncleRancher Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:03:05am |
*ducks head in doorway and quickly pulls back*
Is it safe to come in here yet?
393 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:04:15am |
re: #392 UncleRancher
Are you a racist? If not? Come on in! Relax!
394 | Gus Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:04:23am |
re: #391 bbuddha
I'm a philistine, I buy mine already ground.
Same here unless I get it at Safeway. If I grind it there it gets contaminated with "flavored" coffee which ruins it. Apparently people need to have an advanced degree to clean the grinder once in a while at Safeway.
396 | tokyobk Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:05:25am |
re: #380 bbuddha
doesn't really lend it self to being written down. Yea(t) is the closest approximation. I've lived too long all over the place to really have the Maine accent but my other half can really do it up, cracks me up everytime.
Ok, this might be scary, having spent my summers living in Maine and also being fascinated with languages and accents. So coming out of the total geek closet I offer that what you have in Maine Yea is a kind of an unvoiced (neither throaty nor aspirated) guttural stop.
I used to think it was hysterical that for my friends in Maine what you got if you licked the little square battery and the scary big "fish" from the movie were the same : shaak.
398 | A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:06:14am |
re: #390 Sharmuta
Hi, {Hoops}. Just waiting on word from a couple friends, but other than that I'm doing well this morning. How are you, Dear? How's the guest post coming along?
It's coming along well my friend. I should be done by Monday morning...
The weather here really sucks this morning...Do you realize there has not been one Saturday this year that I have swam laps on a Saturday?
Not one Saturday...I wanna go back in time to last year...
399 | Gus Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:08:52am |
No deleted posts and no negative dings here. Everything is under control.
400 | Sharmuta Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:16:29am |
re: #398 HoosierHoops
Sorry to hear of the weather problems. I know what those can be like. One year, it rained every Thursday all summer for the farmer's market. I felt so bad for all the vendors. Wednesday, Friday- beautiful! Every single Thursday for months it rained.
Can't wait to see your piece. I know it will be great.
401 | Dr. Shalit Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:21:32am |
Good Morning Everyone - From the Soprano State of NJ -
Well, our Gubernatorial Candidates have both picked their running mates for the first election of a Lt. Governor in NJ history, both female, perhaps starting a "boy/girl" tradition. Without mentioning names:
Republican - Sitting Elected Sheriff, helped bring down a Republican County Prosecutor in a corruption scandal, age 50.
Democrat - Sitting State Senator, ripped off by Bernie Madoff, age 74.
If submitted as a script, Hollywood would probably reject it as being too far fetched to be believable.
-S-
402 | haakondahl Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:23:27am |
404 | A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:33:10am |
Snow Angels (2007) 3 stars A teen experiences first love while a waitress carries on an affair with a friend's husband.(Drama)
The script is all over the place..Disjointed to say the least...The Direction is a mess...Must be a first year grad out of UCLA...
There are a couple scenes that are fucking breathe taking in scope and power and dialog..If you want to see life down and dirty..To the human level..rare emotions laid out to bear...The emotion in this movie is real as it gets...
The cops just showed up...
I could have made this movie into a hit...Lousy direction...
405 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:37:06am |
Watching today show.
The world is taking crazy pills.
Time to work.
406 | A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:40:09am |
re: #404 HoosierHoops
Snow Angels (2007) 3 stars A teen experiences first love while a waitress carries on an affair with a friend's husband.(Drama)
The script is all over the place..Disjointed to say the least...The Direction is a mess...Must be a first year grad out of UCLA...
There are a couple scenes that are fucking breathe taking in scope and power and dialog..If you want to see life down and dirty..To the human level..rare emotions laid out to bear...The emotion in this movie is real as it gets...
The cops just showed up...
I could have made this movie into a hit...Lousy direction...
The coming of age teen movie combined with real life Drama of a cheating wife with a best friend enclosed with murder deserves this unknown movie with 3 star rating...The direction ruins it...
Watch this movie on a rainy day..otherwise i say skip it on netflixs queue
407 | Sharmuta Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:52:04am |
Is it wrong that I don't care?
Probe into assault on BNP leader
The British National Party leader Nick Griffin has made an assault claim to police after a man threw a pint of beer over him outside a pub.
Jolly good.
408 | haakondahl Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:53:45am |
re: #407 Sharmuta
Is it wrong that I don't care?
Probe into assault on BNP leader
Jolly good.
Unless the pint of beer thrown on him included the glass, it's a girly man who would report it at all.
409 | Sharmuta Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:54:13am |
Tory MP for Ribble Valley Nigel Evans said he was "very disturbed" to hear about the story and quipped: "What a dreadful waste of beer."
410 | bbuddha Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:54:42am |
re: #407 Sharmuta
I'm sorry, but that is just wussy. throwing beer on a person isn't assault. It may be a waste of beer...
411 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:56:05am |
re: #404 HoosierHoops
Snow Angels (2007) 3 stars A teen experiences first love while a waitress carries on an affair with a friend's husband.(Drama)
The script is all over the place..Disjointed to say the least...The Direction is a mess...Must be a first year grad out of UCLA...
There are a couple scenes that are fucking breathe taking in scope and power and dialog..If you want to see life down and dirty..To the human level..rare emotions laid out to bear...The emotion in this movie is real as it gets...
The cops just showed up...
I could have made this movie into a hit...Lousy direction...
Hey, I go to UCLA!
/not by any real choice, I need to get the hell out of CA.
412 | 3 wood Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:56:08am |
Good morning.
I hope the dust has settled from the last several day's brou-ha-ha's
Sales Fail to Keep Pace With Profits as Economy Stays Sluggish
Sales growth lagged behind profits as companies in the Standard & Poors’ 500 Index beat analysts’ estimates this week, a signal that economic recovery may be slow.Second-quarter revenue at Caterpillar Inc. and Freeport- McMoRan Copper & Gold Inc. tumbled more than 30 percent from a year earlier, though earnings topped the average of analysts’ predictions. Amazon.com Inc.’s profit skidded and sales missed estimates. United Parcel Service Inc.’s sales slid 17 percent. Microsoft Corp. saw annual sales drop for the first time in 23 years as a public company.
“The economy is coming back but it is not going to come roaring back,” said Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody’s Economy.com. Companies “are going to be reluctant to add investment and jobs until they get better sales.”
Pretty good assessment, I think.
413 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:58:43am |
Wow. Is the "Bush was going to invade Buffalo" story all about timing, or what?
Geez - our loser media is so pathetic.
414 | bbuddha Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:58:44am |
re: #412 3 wood
Good morning.
I hope the dust has settled from the last several day's brou-ha-ha's
Good Morning,
OK what did I miss? I don't seem to be able to get on during the week, apparently this past week there was great excitement.
415 | A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:01:54am |
re: #411 TheMatrix31
Hey, I go to UCLA!
/not by any real choice, I need to get the hell out of CA.
Born and raised in California.. Went to College there...Transfered out to Indiana...Sometimes I miss home so much..Enjoy your time there before you move..Someday you will miss it.
416 | Beach Lover Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:01:57am |
Morning, Lizards! Here's a little article on our guy in the WH.
FTA
"Narcissistic injury inevitably leads to narcissistic rage and to a terrifying display of unbridled aggression," Dr. Vaknin said.
rutroh
417 | A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:02:41am |
re: #412 3 wood
Good morning 3 wood!
Hope you are well
418 | Sharmuta Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:03:02am |
re: #413 FrogMarch
Wow. Is the "Bush was going to invade Buffalo" story all about timing, or what?
Geez - our loser media is so pathetic.
Why discuss the issues in an election when we can discuss the Vice Presidential candidate's wardrobe?
Why discuss health care legislation when we can discuss an arrest?
420 | Throbert McGee Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:04:56am |
re: #335 Fenway_Nation
The 0bamadrones seem to be counterattacking in the comments sections of various Boston media websites. Mostly with unsubtantiated and unverifiable accounts of police brutality that they supposedly experienced firsthand (40 years ago, by some admissions) and how Sgt Crowley is no different from Bull Connor (I'm paraphrasing).
Speaking of this -- I went to The Root, a blog/website founded by Gates himself, and I was IMMENSELY gratified by this thread comment reacting to one of the articles about the incident:
First, let me say as an African American woman who’ve experienced racism and the criminal justice system in America, I know first had what it is to be treated unjustly, but….
Is the Gate’s situation racism to him, or classism to the officer. THIS IS RIDICULOUS!!!
- Your neighbor rigthtly sees two men breaking into your house (you are black), calls the the police, describe the two men, who happens to be black; it wasn’t like there were two black guys drinking tea on the porch on a Summer afternoon, and the neighbor called the police
WOW, YOU WERE TRYING TO BREAK INTO YOUR OWN HOUSE, THE NEIGHBOR DID YOU A FAVOR. GATES YOU’VE LEFT YOUR HOUSE OPEN FOR ROBBERY, NO ONE WOULD CALLTHE POLICE NOW IF THEY WITNESS SOMEONE TRYING TO ENTER YOUR HOUSE ILLEGALLY!!!
- The police comes, checks out the situation, finds that it is the owner of the house breaking in because he’s misplaced his keys, RIGHTLY, asks you for your ID, this is where Gates gets pissed off because his attitudes is that he is above officer, because he is a Harvard Professor, on TV, hey, who are you blue collar man to ask me for my ID, don’t you know who I am? This is Gates attitude because of his profession and status.
- No, the officer should not have arrested him, but got pissed off because, here is a man, that is not appreciative of his neighbor, the police officer, and now is going to really play the race card! UNBELIEVABLE.
GATES OWEs THE POLICE OFFICER AN APOLOGY
THIS IS A TYPICAL CLASS GAME - I’M BETTER THAN YOU, AND DON’T HAVE TO ANSWER TO YOU BECAUSE OF MY STATUS!!
Although the lady obviously doesn't have Prof. Gates' level of formal education, her post is a damn-near flawless masterpiece of perceptiveness and commonsense logic. I especially appreciated her observation that Gates' behavior here effectively creates a disincentive for any of his neighbors to bother phoning the cops in the event that REAL burglars try to break into his home someday.
And she's even gracious enough to concede the point that Crowley needn't have actually arrested Gates, despite Gates' being a total prat. All in all, a classy lady -- but to borrow a line from Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids, "Perfesser Gates 'minds me of a teachers' strike at school — NO CLASS."
421 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:05:34am |
re: #412 3 wood
Good morning.
I hope the dust has settled from the last several day's brou-ha-ha's
Sales Fail to Keep Pace With Profits as Economy Stays Sluggish
“The economy is coming back but it is not going to come roaring back,” said Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody’s Economy.com. Companies “are going to be reluctant to add investment and jobs until they get better sales.”
Pretty good assessment, I think.
Companies are holding their breath until they understand how they are going to cope with the Democrat's upcoming putative tax increases, added regulations and fees, and the whole Government Run Health Insurance tax hike.
422 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:06:35am |
re: #418 Sharmuta
Why discuss the issues in an election when we can discuss the Vice Presidential candidate's wardrobe?
Why discuss health care legislation when we can discuss an arrest?
Had Obama simply said "no comment" --I doubt any of us would be talking about the arrest in Cambridge.
423 | A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:07:29am |
re: #420 Throbert McGee
Somebody said the other day that you were a great cook...Magic in the kitchen shit...
Good morning lizard
424 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:08:09am |
re: #415 HoosierHoops
Born and raised in California.. Went to College there...Transfered out to Indiana...Sometimes I miss home so much..Enjoy your time there before you move..Someday you will miss it.
I already miss home -- Fresno.
LA's not my home. Been here almost 9 years, but can never consider it a home. I have more problems with this city than a psychologist could shake a stick at.
425 | Throbert McGee Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:09:07am |
re: #382 TheMatrix31
Once, twice...THREE times a racist?
Shirley you meant "unce, tice, fee times a macist..."
/Buckwheat
426 | A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:09:46am |
re: #424 TheMatrix31
I already miss home -- Fresno.
LA's not my home. Been here almost 9 years, but can never consider it a home. I have more problems with this city than a psychologist could shake a stick at.
You have got to be kidding me! I was born outside of Firebaugh...What up homie? :)
427 | Throbert McGee Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:10:42am |
re: #423 HoosierHoops
Somebody said the other day that you were a great cook...
I think I submitted something like 8-10 recipes to the LGF Cookbook 2.0, so you'll have to wait and test 'em for yourself!
428 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:11:19am |
A bothersome question we will never hear from the DNC media:
If an armed man breaks into your house, confiscates money from your wallet, insists that he and his goons are blessed with a grand vision of how you and your family should be provided with health care, and commands you to do as he orders, would you believe his promise to keep armed intruders "out of health care decisions"? ("Text: Obama's Remarks on Health Care," July 22).
Of course not.
So why isn't the entire country furious at being insulted by Pres. Obama's patently absurd claim that his efforts to give government a greater role in paying for health care will "keep government out of health care decisions”?
Sincerely,
Donald J. Boudreaux
Chairman, Department of Economics
George Mason University
429 | haakondahl Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:11:43am |
re: #413 FrogMarch
Wow. Is the "Bush was going to invade Buffalo" story all about timing, or what?
Geez - our loser media is so pathetic.
And I'm waiting for sagehen and the rest of the "Bush should have invaded New Orleans" crowd to comment on how Bush should also have invaded Buffalo, and it was shocking that he didn't. Kanye West can take it from here--George Bush don't care about white people.
430 | Sharmuta Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:12:08am |
re: #422 FrogMarch
Had Obama simply said "no comment" --I doubt any of us would be talking about the arrest in Cambridge.
What I find interesting is no one is bothered by this media bullshit at the moment because it gives them a chance to get their ODS on, but if this was something insignificant about a republican getting blown out of proportion as was distracting from bigger issues, everyone would bitch about the msm.
Their BS is a two way street.
431 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:15:38am |
re: #426 HoosierHoops
You have got to be kidding me! I was born outside of Firebaugh...What up homie? :)
Awesome, my Dad used to do tons of business in Firebaugh, and across the whole valley actually.
Then Clinton and his people boned his small business with some of the health/medical stuff during that time. We lost a ton of our clout and were forced to move out of Fresno. He did biomedical technician work.
Argh.
432 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:20:33am |
re: #430 Sharmuta
What I find interesting is no one is bothered by this media bullshit at the moment because it gives them a chance to get their ODS on, but if this was something insignificant about a republican getting blown out of proportion as was distracting from bigger issues, everyone would bitch about the msm.
Their BS is a two way street.
I don't have a problem with people slamming Obama for making the arrest of his pal in Cambridge about race. Obama made it about race and insulted the police there. That's a good reason to slam him.
(And, unbelievably, after calling the police "stupid", Obama hasn't apologized or retracted his statement.)
The DNC/MSM isn't doing any slamming. The DNC media have already rushed in to cover for Obama. Had the tables been turned and this was Bush who made an un-presidential and inappropriate racial statement regarding the arrest of a friend - the DNC media would be all over it.
That's politics.
434 | A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:22:36am |
re: #431 TheMatrix31
Awesome, my Dad used to do tons of business in Firebaugh, and across the whole valley actually.
Then Clinton and his people boned his small business with some of the health/medical stuff during that time. We lost a ton of our clout and were forced to move out of Fresno. He did biomedical technician work.
Argh.
yea..Firebaugh is a dying town...Sad...
I grew up in Napa Valley.much further north...But I have a soft spot in my heart where I was born. Firebaugh!
435 | BignJames Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:25:23am |
re: #413 FrogMarch
Wow. Is the "Bush was going to invade Buffalo" story all about timing, or what?
Geez - our loser media is so pathetic.
A story about something someone supposedly
thought about
...7 years ago. How about digging something up on Cheney from his tenure as SecDef? Surely he
thought about
something back in the day?
437 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:27:53am |
oh wait - there was a slight retraction. No apology, however.
"Because this has been ratcheting up and I obviously helped to contribute ratcheting it up, I wanted to make clear in my choice of words I think I unfortunately gave an impression that I was maligning the Cambridge Police Department or Sgt. Crowley specifically," Obama said. "And I could have calibrated those words differently."
...
Crowley suggested Obama invite him and Gates, to the White House for a peace-making beer, and a plan was in the works to do so, Obama said.
...
We have become - Soap Opera Nation.
438 | Sharmuta Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:28:14am |
re: #432 FrogMarch
I hope we can continue discussing Cambridge for weeks.
439 | reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:28:22am |
re: #420 Throbert McGee
Although the lady obviously doesn't have Prof. Gates' level of formal education, her post is a damn-near flawless masterpiece of perceptiveness and commonsense logic. I especially appreciated her observation that Gates' behavior here effectively creates a disincentive for any of his neighbors to bother phoning the cops in the event that REAL burglars try to break into his home someday.
And she's even gracious enough to concede the point that Crowley needn't have actually arrested Gates, despite Gates' being a total prat. All in all, a classy lady -- but to borrow a line from Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids, "Perfesser Gates 'minds me of a teachers' strike at school — NO CLASS."
She also got it right that this is a case of "class-ism", not "rac-ism".
And it sounds like she's totally pissed about that.
440 | Ayeless in Ghazi Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:29:36am |
Just watched Newsnight review. I had forgotton what a truly worthless old sack of shit Germaine Greer is. Just watched her slam Salman Rushdie for offending rabid muslim extremists in his book "The Satanic Verses". Some quotes: "I don't care if people burn books" "We have never had the right to say just what we like" "No-one should die for a book". (Her 'solution' of course, being to not write the book.)
441 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:29:47am |
re: #434 HoosierHoops
yea..Firebaugh is a dying town...Sad...
I grew up in Napa Valley.much further north...But I have a soft spot in my heart where I was born. Firebaugh!
LA is definitely not for me, I can tell ya that.
442 | Sharmuta Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:30:37am |
re: #440 Jimmah
Just watched Newsnight review. I had forgotton what a truly worthless old sack of shit Germaine Greer is. Just watched her slam Salman Rushdie for offending rabid muslim extremists in his book "The Satanic Verses". Some quotes: "I don't care if people burn books" "We have never had the right to say just what we like" "No-one should die for a book". (Her 'solution' of course, being to not write the book.)
She realizes it's the author who has death threats on his head, right?
443 | Lincolntf Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:30:58am |
Morning all.
The MSM is hilarious. I can't even pretend to be upset by the artificial "Bush vs. Buffalo" scandal. It's just too lame for words.
444 | Gus Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:31:14am |
re: #437 FrogMarch
oh wait - there was a slight retraction. No apology, however.
...
We have become - Soap Opera Nation.
Interesting I was thinking about just that while reading this "Bush Weighed Using Military in Arrest" article in the NY Times. Gossip, soap operas, etc. Day in and day out it seems like it's only more liberal drama which is what they do best.
445 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:31:36am |
re: #438 Sharmuta
I hope we can continue discussing Cambridge for weeks.
Well, it keeps us off topics like Government Run Health Insurance.
...
"And I could have calibrated those words differently."
-Barack Obama.
I am so steeling that.
446 | Sharmuta Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:32:13am |
re: #443 Lincolntf
Morning all.
The MSM is hilarious. I can't even pretend to be upset by the artificial "Bush vs. Buffalo" scandal. It's just too lame for words.
Indeed. It's a distraction. Not a real controversy like Gates.
447 | A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:32:14am |
re: #441 TheMatrix31
LA is definitely not for me, I can tell ya that.
The quality of life in Northern California is so much better than LA..
/Sorry Charles..*wink*
448 | reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:32:16am |
Health Care Talks Stall Among House Democrats, Timetable Further in Doubt
Not good:
A key House committee chairman on Friday threatened to bypass moderate Democrats who are holding up the health care reform bill and bring the package straight to the floor, in the latest showdown on health care that is dividing Congress and Democratic party ranks.
More:
The Democratic Party is at war with itself, trying to pump out a deal on health care reform without fracturing on the floor of Congress.Negotiations broke down Friday afternoon, at least temporarily, between party leaders and the group of fiscally conservative Democrats known as the Blue Dogs, who are trying to win concessions on the health care package.
"It pretty much fell apart this afternoon," said Rep. Mike Ross, D-Ark., part of the Blue Dog Coalition.
"I've been lied to. I've not had legitimate negotiations," Rep. Charlie Melancon, D-La., another Blue Dog, said after talks hit a wall between his group and Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.
The intra-party drama almost certainly means Democratic leaders have to readjust their timetable for reaching a deal or risk completely alienating a key faction of the party.
450 | Lincolntf Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:33:06am |
re: #437 FrogMarch
Who the hell says "calibrated my words" while ostensibly making an apology? The man is pathologically incapable of making a fully true and clear statement. I can barely calibrate my contempt for him.
451 | reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:33:57am |
Pelosi Hits Throttle on Health Care Bill Despite Democrats' Concerns
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has set the legislative throttle at full-speed-ahead as she plans to bring health care reform to a floor vote by the August recess, a move that could inflame tensions in the party and imperil the bill's passage since fiscally conservative Democrats say they're still not satisfied.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on Thursday announced that the Senate would wait until after recess to bring the bill to a vote, and President Obama said it was "OK" to miss his deadline so long as lawmakers are working in earnest to reach a compromise.
Reid's announcement led some members of the House to wonder why Pelosi feels it's necessary to hold to a deadline that's already been broken.
Multiple sources with the Blue Dog Coalition, the group of fiscally conservative Democrats who have been holding up the bill in the only House committee yet to vote on it, said Friday they still don't have a deal -- despite Pelosi's insistence that she's got the votes.
452 | Ayeless in Ghazi Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:34:59am |
re: #442 Sharmuta
She realizes it's the author who has death threats on his head, right?
Yes. Like I said, she's worthless.
453 | A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:35:20am |
Wish i could remember the link i found that some Dem was calling for Pelosi to step down cause she has blown it so bad...
454 | tokyobk Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:35:26am |
One element I have not seen written about in GatesGate is the fact that scholarly blacks that teach at fancy schools are often under real and imagined pressure to be "authentic."
I think most of it can be attributed to self entitlement and jetlag as well as cops believing they can arrest people for yelling, but I think there may have been some slightly conscious or unconscious impulse for Gates to have a "real" black moment to be like any other "blackman in America."
I don't think he was happy to see a cop in his house but I do think there was some cathartic element to his being able to yell as if he was truely being abused on racial grounds.
455 | Gus Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:35:32am |
re: #451 reine.de.tout
Pelosi Hits Throttle on Health Care Bill Despite Democrats' Concerns
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has set the legislative throttle at full-speed-ahead as she plans to bring health care reform to a floor vote by the August recess, a move that could inflame tensions in the party and imperil the bill's passage since fiscally conservative Democrats say they're still not satisfied.
Check the link. ;)
456 | Sharmuta Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:35:38am |
re: #448 reine.de.tout
Health Care Talks Stall Among House Democrats, Timetable Further in Doubt
There are talks about health care?
458 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:38:08am |
re: #450 Lincolntf
Who the hell says "calibrated my words" while ostensibly making an apology? The man is pathologically incapable of making a fully true and clear statement. I can barely calibrate my contempt for him.
The man is king of rhetorical flourishes. Nothing real needs to be said - instead, insert all sorts of fancy tap dancing. It impresses the proggies.
459 | Sharmuta Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:38:18am |
re: #451 reine.de.tout
Pelosi Hits Throttle on Health Care Bill Despite Democrats' Concerns
I really wish you would quit with your distractions from serious matters. ///
461 | A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:39:47am |
462 | srb1976 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:42:06am |
re: #461 HoosierHoops
Still asleep so far...but if she sleeping she's not climbing furniture and taking years off my life = )
Should be up soon
463 | Ayeless in Ghazi Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:42:09am |
Another Greer quote from that programme:"This book was like a red rag to a bull".
Another outing for the stupid leftist concept of murderously rabid religious fanatics as not human beings whose dangerous, bullshit ideas must be challenged, but as a 'force of nature' that must be managed responsibly by 'us liberals', through in this case self censorship and the recognition that our freedoms are never worth dying for.
464 | Ojoe Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:43:38am |
Today's Towercam dawn; the San Gabriel Mountains of California.
Happy Sunday All.
465 | bbuddha Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:45:05am |
gotta go, lots to do. have a great day everyone
466 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:45:21am |
re: #464 Ojoe
Today's Towercam dawn; the San Gabriel Mountains of California.
Happy Sunday All.
Were are you?
468 | Ayeless in Ghazi Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:46:57am |
Death of an Academic Giant: Leszek Kolakowski
[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]
"With reference to the New Left of the 1960s, he commented (p. 1,179):
While the ideological fantasies of this movement, which reached its climax around 1968-9, were no more than a nonsensical expression of the whims of spoilt middle-class children, and while the extremists among them were virtually indistinguishable from Fascist thugs, the movement did without doubt express a profound crisis of faith in the values that had inspired democratic societies for decades. In this sense it was a ‘genuine’ movement despite its grotesque phraseology; the same, of course, could be said of Nazism and Fascism.
Despite the fact that Kolakowski penned these words over thirty years ago, he could have looked at leftist parties in 2009 and written an identical sentiment."
472 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:47:54am |
Good morning. You will be pleased to know that the Obamas are preparing to head off for a week on Martha's Vineyard. I believe that the home sits on 14 acres with swimming pool etc. Fair market value for the week is $40,000.
Remember that he wants you to dial back your life, don't eat whatever you want. Oh & by the way learn a foreign language, you are embarrassing him.
473 | reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:48:07am |
re: #455 Gus 802
Check the link. ;)
Oh, hell
Here's the link;
Pelosi Hits Throttle on Health Care Bill Despite Democrats' Concerns
I got a blank page when I checked; hope that's what everybody else got too, and not some sort of lewdness.
474 | Henchman Ghazi-808 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:49:16am |
re: #473 reine.de.tout
Vote Baby Vote! Bring it on.
475 | Ayeless in Ghazi Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:49:24am |
re: #407 Sharmuta
Is it wrong that I don't care?
Probe into assault on BNP leader
Jolly good.
That people are having such difficulty tolerating the openly intolerant is a good sign I think.
477 | Sharmuta Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:51:20am |
re: #475 Jimmah
That people are having such difficulty tolerating the openly intolerant is a good sign I think.
Yes. People like Nick Griffin are free to think they way they do and be as big a bigot as they desire. But that same freedom also allows us to completely shun him as much as we desire, and I weep only for the lost beer.
478 | reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:51:21am |
re: #473 reine.de.tout
Oh, hell
Here's the link;
Pelosi Hits Throttle on Health Care Bill Despite Democrats' Concerns
I got a blank page when I checked; hope that's what everybody else got too, and not some sort of lewdness.
An excerpt from that article:
Amid the intra-party struggle, Democratic consultant Dan Gerstein penned a column this week calling for Pelosi's ouster.He told FOX News that on issue after issue, the speaker has hurt the president's efforts to set a new post-partisan tone in Congress.
The $787 billion stimulus, he said, was "too focused on paying Democratic constituencies and not enough on creating jobs."
The cap-and-trade climate bill that recently passed out of the House and is now in the Senate is a "Frankenstein monster."
The final stake, he said, is her guidance of a House health care bill that the Congressional Budget Office says will not control costs.
"That to me is a pretty strong record that she is not capable of moving his agenda," said Gerstein, who also cited a Politico.com poll this week showing 24 percent of people trust Pelosi.
479 | huckfunn Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:51:46am |
480 | Henchman Ghazi-808 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:53:06am |
Rachel Corrie will not die...
Documentary sparks uproar at Jewish film fest
481 | Ayeless in Ghazi Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:53:29am |
re: #477 Sharmuta
Yes. People like Nick Griffin are free to think they way they do and be as big a bigot as they desire. But that same freedom also allows us to completely shun him as much as we desire, and I weep only for the lost beer.
The beer deserved better. Much better.
482 | Gus Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:54:17am |
re: #473 reine.de.tout
Oh, hell
Here's the link;
Pelosi Hits Throttle on Health Care Bill Despite Democrats' Concerns
I got a blank page when I checked; hope that's what everybody else got too, and not some sort of lewdness.
Just came up as a blank page here.
It's pretty obvious by now that Nancy Pelosi represents the left wing of the Democratic Party. This attempt to corral the Blue Dogs makes it obvious in her attempt to have legislation passed (or is that rammed down our throats) before the August recess. Her actions of course are being orchestrated by the White House by way of Emanuel, and others.
It this passes it will be another "Frankenstein's Monster" with wide reaching ramifications for decades to come including a strong connection with the Internal Revenue Service. If they're cutting off the Blue Dogs you can imagine what clout the Republicans have. They're not even "bipartisan" within their own party.
483 | A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:54:55am |
re: #472 opnion
Good morning. You will be pleased to know that the Obamas are preparing to head off for a week on Martha's Vineyard. I believe that the home sits on 14 acres with swimming pool etc. Fair market value for the week is $40,000.
Remember that he wants you to dial back your life, don't eat whatever you want. Oh & by the way learn a foreign language, you are embarrassing him.
LOL
Good morning...Lucky for you guys..
If I was the most powerful man in the world I'd be spending weekends in Hawaii...Napa Valley.Shopping on 5th Ave...Strolls at night in Paris along the river...Vodka in Moscow...Karaoke in Tokyo...Wineries in upstate New York...Those secret little get juantes to Camp David...
Thats just the way the Hoopster rolls when he has the world by the balls..
*wink*
484 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:54:58am |
re: #450 Lincolntf
Who the hell says "calibrated my words" while ostensibly making an apology? The man is pathologically incapable of making a fully true and clear statement. I can barely calibrate my contempt for him.
What I took out of it , is that Obama is sorry that we are not sophisticaed enough to understand that he was just providing a teachable moment.
IMO he was making a shout out to African Americans, an important part of his base. As is common with a narcissist he overestimated his own skills
485 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:55:48am |
re: #472 opnion
Good morning. You will be pleased to know that the Obamas are preparing to head off for a week on Martha's Vineyard. I believe that the home sits on 14 acres with swimming pool etc. Fair market value for the week is $40,000.
Remember that he wants you to dial back your life, don't eat whatever you want. Oh & by the way learn a foreign language, you are embarrassing him.
I don't know about you, but alls I can say is...mer-see bo-koo!
487 | srb1976 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:56:32am |
re: #483 HoosierHoops
Sounds like fun...but I think if you "had the world by the balls" you wouldn't waste time telling us little people to cut back our lifestyles either = )
488 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:56:52am |
re: #485 TheMatrix31
I don't know about you, but alls I can say is...mer-see bo-koo!
Inerestingly, the Dear Leader himself speaks no foreign language.
490 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:58:29am |
re: #453 HoosierHoops
Wish i could remember the link i found that some Dem was calling for Pelosi to step down cause she has blown it so bad...
491 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:58:35am |
re: #483 HoosierHoops
LOL
Good morning...Lucky for you guys..
If I was the most powerful man in the world I'd be spending weekends in Hawaii...Napa Valley.Shopping on 5th Ave...Strolls at night in Paris along the river...Vodka in Moscow...Karaoke in Tokyo...Wineries in upstate New York...Those secret little get juantes to Camp David...
Thats just the way the Hoopster rolls when he has the world by the balls..
*wink*
Yeah & I wouldn't be lecturing everbody else to cut back.
492 | albusteve Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:59:02am |
this is where the power is...uncounted millions of voters
[Link: blogs.telegraph.co.uk...]
493 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:59:11am |
re: #488 opnion
Inerestingly, the Dear Leader himself speaks no foreign language.
You dont count mumbojumboelitstracistsocialistasshole-ese as a language?
You must be a racist.
494 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 25, 2009 6:59:58am |
re: #479 huckfunn
But...but...but...but 9 isn't a prime number, and it's a perfect square, so that isn't significant at all.
495 | 96RoadKing Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:00:45am |
re: #493 TheMatrix31
You dont count mumbojumboelitstracistsocialistasshole-ese as a language?
You must be a racist.
Making fun of The One! You're the racist!
497 | A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:01:47am |
re: #486 opnion
si se puede
I thought i nice little public announcement from Air Force one...I could wear a nice sweater and lecture America about using their Air Conditioners in Summer.
Would that be something I could interest you in? :)
498 | reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:01:54am |
re: #482 Gus 802
Just came up as a blank page here.
It's pretty obvious by now that Nancy Pelosi represents the left wing of the Democratic Party. This attempt to corral the Blue Dogs makes it obvious in her attempt to have legislation passed (or is that rammed down our throats) before the August recess. Her actions of course are being orchestrated by the White House by way of Emanuel, and others.
It this passes it will be another "Frankenstein's Monster" with wide reaching ramifications for decades to come including a strong connection with the Internal Revenue Service. If they're cutting off the Blue Dogs you can imagine what clout the Republicans have. They're not even "bipartisan" within their own party.
Exactly.
From the first link I posted:
The Democratic Party is at war with itself, trying to pump out a deal on health care reform without fracturing on the floor of Congress.
Negotiations broke down Friday afternoon, at least temporarily, between party leaders and the group of fiscally conservative Democrats known as the Blue Dogs, who are trying to win concessions on the health care package."It pretty much fell apart this afternoon," said Rep. Mike Ross, D-Ark., part of the Blue Dog Coalition.
"I've been lied to. I've not had legitimate negotiations," Rep. Charlie Melancon, D-La., another Blue Dog, said after talks hit a wall between his group and Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.
499 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:02:28am |
re: #458 FrogMarch
The man is king of rhetorical flourishes. Nothing real needs to be said - instead, insert all sorts of fancy tap dancing. It impresses the proggies.
I'm not impressed. Let's look at what is really being revealed in this Gates dust up. Black Americans, working for the Cambridge Police Department, including the officer who was paired with Crowley, have now had their worth and value questioned by the President.
Crowley is receiving support from most of his department, yet the President (and Gates) are basically questioning the ability of black Americans from successfully and intelligently performing their duties.
What does all this say about the black personal on the Cambridge Police Department? It doesn't matter. There are no survivors in race politics. Making a point is more important than what you are saying about the people involved. Even if the race baiters have to take down other blacks who have no desire to enter the fight, it doesn't matter, point matters.
Not once in the past week has Barry Obama or any other person on the left even suggest that there is a possibility that Gates' conduct may need to be questioned.
Nope, Gates is a hero, the whole of the Cambridge Police Department are the villains, and not a single black person benefits from any of this.
500 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:03:34am |
501 | Gus Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:04:17am |
re: #498 reine.de.tout
Waxman is another extremist.
Let's hope then that we can count a no vote from the Blue Dogs.
502 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:04:23am |
re: #498 reine.de.tout
Encouraging Democrats isn't something I normally do, but these guys are objecting on a basis of fiscal discipline, and they ought to be encourage. Adding them to my mailing list even though I'm not in their districts.
504 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:06:49am |
re: #497 HoosierHoops
I thought i nice little public announcement from Air Force one...I could wear a nice sweater and lecture America about using their Air Conditioners in Summer.
Would that be something I could interest you in? :)
What about serving that expensive, Japanese beef and cranking up the thermostat in the White House?
505 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:07:04am |
507 | Henchman Ghazi-808 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:07:39am |
re: #499 Walter L. Newton
Nope, Gates is a hero, the whole of the Cambridge Police Department are the villains, and not a singleblackperson benefits from any of this.
The only change I would make to an otherwise excellent post.
508 | huckfunn Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:07:42am |
re: #503 96RoadKing
What's the line on when he hits -20?
I suppose we ought to formulate that on this thread. As someone pointed out yesterday, the number reflected in today's poll is a rolling average of the previous 3 days. Therefore, the complete numbers for post-Wednesday-night-stupid-cop-presser-meltdown won't be up until tomorrow morning
509 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:07:52am |
re: #503 96RoadKing
What's the line on when he hits -20?
He's been averaging a two-point decline per week for a while now; if that holds up, he's got a little over a month.
Assuming the trend remains linear, which it probably won't. I'm half-expecting a sharper drop in the next poll thanks to the Gates fiasco; informal Internet polling suggests that the public is not at all happy with 0's behavior on this matter.
510 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:08:49am |
re: #493 TheMatrix31
You dont count mumbojumboelitstracistsocialistasshole-ese as a language?
You must be a racist.
Then I should avail myself of the teachable moment that he provided.
511 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:08:49am |
513 | Lincolntf Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:09:53am |
re: #499 Walter L. Newton
Apart from that stuff, which is all true, my cop friends and rels were telling me yesterday that they already get the "you're just hassling me because I''m Black/Hispanic/Asian/White and you hate "---" people every day.
They're not looking forward to getting even more of that crap.
514 | Henchman Ghazi-808 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:10:09am |
Where's Jackson and Sharpton in this Gates Tempest?
Seems Obama is playing their role.
515 | A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:10:26am |
re: #504 MandyManners
What about serving that expensive, Japanese beef and cranking up the thermostat in the White House?
I'm so there for you my friend...So why not big bashes every Weds. nights at the White House? We could invite super stars every week and really put a new meaning in hump day? It's a long work week after all and saving the world is hard work
516 | huckfunn Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:11:13am |
re: #514 BigPapa
Where's Jackson and Sharpton in this Gates Tempest?
Seems Obama is playing their role.
I think they're out chasing MJ's missing nose.
517 | 96RoadKing Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:11:50am |
re: #508 huckfunn
I suppose we ought to formulate that on this thread. As someone pointed out yesterday, the number reflected in today's poll is a rolling average of the previous 3 days. Therefore, the complete numbers for post-Wednesday-night-stupid-cop-presser-meltdown won't be up until tomorrow morning
re: #509 SixDegrees
He's been averaging a two-point decline per week for a while now; if that holds up, he's got a little over a month.
Assuming the trend remains linear, which it probably won't. I'm half-expecting a sharper drop in the next poll thanks to the Gates fiasco; informal Internet polling suggests that the public is not at all happy with 0's behavior on this matter.
I'm guessing he'll hit a -11 with the next published poll. I'd predict some kind of push back/event/speach that'll try to put him in a positive light, which would level out the descent for a week or two, then continued drop. I'm going with a prediction that he'll hit -20 some time around November...with luck...barring an attack on the US...
518 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:11:56am |
521 | 96RoadKing Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:14:03am |
522 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:14:11am |
re: #499 Walter L. Newton
Not once in the past week has Barry Obama or any other person on the left even suggest that there is a possibility that Gates' conduct may need to be questioned.
Yeah - there's all sorts of problems here. Do you think Obama is actually pushing race relations back in America? I do. So much for post-racial America.
The cop was doing his job. ...and all Obama can muster is:
"I could have calibrated those words differently".
I thought Obama was media savvy?
523 | albusteve Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:14:27am |
groceries are expensive in Michigan...stock up
[Link: wcbstv.com...]
524 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:14:30am |
re: #512 taxfreekiller
Nancy Pelosi - the ultimate out of control freak.
We can't stand an out of control freak.
Heh - no doubt.
526 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:15:19am |
re: #515 HoosierHoops
I'm so there for you my friend...So why not big bashes every Weds. nights at the White House? We could invite super stars every week and really put a new meaning in hump day? It's a long work week after all and saving the world is hard work
How many times did Pres. Bush refer to the White House as "my house" and the lawn as "my lawn"?
527 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:15:23am |
re: #513 Lincolntf
Apart from that stuff, which is all true, my cop friends and rels were telling me yesterday that they already get the "you're just hassling me because I''m Black/Hispanic/Asian/White and you hate "---" people every day.
They're not looking forward to getting even more of that crap.
And they will. People in general take opportunities like this to exert themselves, especially people, who, for one reason or another, feel put down (real or imagined).
528 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:15:55am |
529 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:16:12am |
530 | 96RoadKing Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:16:16am |
re: #525 taxfreekiller
Nancy Pelosi is a irrational player in the deal, get her to show her ass and many things will change. She is within our head game now, she is about to come unglued total, push, push, push, got their right flank turning on them. Attack, attack now. You can not play defense with these crack pots, you must attack and never let up.
IMO
I'm looking forward to her meltdown (hopefully on camera)
531 | huckfunn Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:16:20am |
re: #517 96RoadKing
I'm guessing he'll hit a -11 with the next published poll. I'd predict some kind of push back/event/speach that'll try to put him in a positive light, which would level out the descent for a week or two, then continued drop. I'm going with a prediction that he'll hit -20 some time around November...with luck...barring an attack on the US...
That's roughly where I see it. Assuming the health care take over doesn't fly and cap & tax get water down to the point where its irrelevant, he'll be toast before Thanksgiving. And there's a lot more stupid crap going on that could drive it lower.
532 | pingjockey Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:16:42am |
re: #525 taxfreekiller
"Press on"...Gen. Rob E. Lee, "Keep up the skeer!" Nat. B. Forrest
533 | 96RoadKing Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:17:03am |
re: #526 MandyManners
How many times did Pres. Bush refer to the White House as "my house" and the lawn as "my lawn"?
Didn't Jimmy Carter redesignate it 'the People's House'?
534 | reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:17:05am |
re: #501 Gus 802
Waxman is another extremist.
Let's hope then that we can count a no vote from the Blue Dogs.
I'm contacting Melancon's office, and encouraging friends to do the same.
I am peripherally involved with a group of conservative women who make it a point to contact our local politicians with a piece of their mind LOL. I'm going to get in touch with them to make sure they make contact with his office,too.
535 | A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:17:12am |
re: #526 MandyManners
How many times did Pres. Bush refer to the White House as "my house" and the lawn as "my lawn"?
Yea..That fucking commie bastard has a lease for 4 years on the joint...
I hope they leave a kick ass sound system.
/Good morning
536 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:18:21am |
re: #522 FrogMarch
Yeah - there's all sorts of problems here. Do you think Obama is actually pushing race relations back in America? I do. So much for post-racial America.
The cop was doing his job. ...and all Obama can muster is:
"I could have calibrated those words differently".
I thought Obama was media savvy?
And that statement is a perfect example that Barry is not a intelligent person. That is such an improper use of a word "calibrated," what does that mean, nothing, it's a 60 dollar word coming out of the mouth of a street level politician, and it makes no sense at all.
Is that what they teach at Harvard, big words, no meaning?
537 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:18:25am |
re: #526 MandyManners
How many times did Pres. Bush refer to the White House as "my house" and the lawn as "my lawn"?
President Bush & Laura were respectful. Barry & Michelle are in my opnion garish vulgarians, but that's me.
538 | huckfunn Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:18:47am |
Gotta got get some yard work done while its still cool.
Later
539 | 96RoadKing Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:18:52am |
re: #532 pingjockey
"Press on"...Gen. Rob E. Lee, "Keep up the skeer!" Nat. B. Forrest
"Wade into them...spill their guts..." Geo. Patton
540 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:19:45am |
re: #526 MandyManners
How many times did Pres. Bush refer to the White House as "my house" and the lawn as "my lawn"?
He didn't have to, it was already the "White" House.
///
541 | reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:21:22am |
re: #536 Walter L. Newton
And that statement is a perfect example that Barry is not a intelligent person. That is such an improper use of a word "calibrated," what does that mean, nothing, it's a 60 dollar word coming out of the mouth of a street level politician, and it makes no sense at all.
Is that what they teach at Harvard, big words, no meaning?
It means: I meant what I said, but I should have used different words to say it so as to try to fool everybody.
542 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:21:32am |
re: #528 MandyManners
Same here.
Took a family vacation to Ixtapa years ago. At dinner one night I said;'Tell me what you want & I'll order for you in Spanish"
After I got into it , the waiter said "Amigo, can we do this in English?"
I think that I might have ordered gym shoes.
543 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:22:14am |
re: #499 Walter L. Newton
Crowley didn't vote for Obama, so he doesn't deserve an apology.
That, and, a president interfering with the local police is really quite astonishing.
Having trouble saying the magic words, "I'm sorry"? Put the Sorry Times to work for you!
President Acting Stupidly can't quite bring himself to apologize to Sgt. Crowley and the Cambridge Police for saying they "acted stupidly", but fortunately he has the NY Times on his side to pretend he did.
Here is the Times story, which specifically notes the non-apology:
He did not apologize but softened his language. “I continue to believe, based on what I have heard, that there was an overreaction in pulling Professor Gates out of his home to the station,” he said. “I also continue to believe, based on what I heard, that Professor Gates probably overreacted as well.”
544 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:22:38am |
re: #539 96RoadKing
"Wade into them...spill their guts..." Geo. Patton
the crueler it is the sooner it will end... Gen. W. T. Sherman.
545 | albusteve Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:22:43am |
we are all felons...what law did you break today?...I hate the feds
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
548 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:24:33am |
re: #541 reine.de.tout
It means: I meant what I said, but I should have used different words to say it so as to try to fool everybody.
I've said it before, here on LGF, about Barry, but he is not very smart. He cannot talk off the cuff about a subject, yet he tries and fails every time.
Almost every Lizard here can form a paragraph or two, on the fly, hour after hours, about a wide range of subjects, and we get our point across.
He can't even spend 5 minutes talking without confusing everyone. Well, confusing everyone who is really listening.
549 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:25:21am |
re: #536 Walter L. Newton
And that statement is a perfect example that Barry is not a intelligent person. That is such an improper use of a word "calibrated," what does that mean, nothing, it's a 60 dollar word coming out of the mouth of a street level politician, and it makes no sense at all.
Is that what they teach at Harvard, big words, no meaning?
My reaction was that this was an attempt, whether calculated or out of long habit, to appear smart by using a big word where a smaller one - like 'chosen' - would have worked just as well, or better.
It's common for truly smart people who have a deep understanding of the topic at hand to present it in terms that anyone can understand. Using three-dollar words where two-centers will do is often the mark of someone masking ignorance, or who holds their listeners in contempt.
And it isn't even a good sound bite. It's a downright lousy one, in fact. 0's losing it.
550 | albusteve Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:25:25am |
news, news...I gotta have news!
'storagemanager'
551 | Gus Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:25:52am |
re: #545 albusteve
we are all felons...what law did you break today?...I hate the feds
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Yep. It's like when you even find a feather from a protected bird? You're supposed to just look at it. Pick it up and take it with you and it's a federal crime.
552 | itellu3times Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:26:36am |
Morning, Lizardonia!
Just turned on the radio in time to hear The One's weakly speech. He just keeps getting more like he is, than he ever was. People keep writing him about the healthcare they can't afford. So, Obama sees a Problem. He proposes the Problem Be Solved. Then he goes off to eat his waffle. He feels their pain. He rails against those who are afraid of Change. Then he has another waffle. And anyone who comes in with the news that the numbers don't add up? Off with their heads! Send off to Harvard for a professor who will explain that arithmetic is a white man's game for oppressing the community, I think I know at least one guy there who can give that talk.
553 | Truck Monkey Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:27:01am |
re: #526 MandyManners
How many times did Pres. Bush refer to the White House as "my house" and the lawn as "my lawn"?
Never. The man had dignity and humility. He knew that he was a temporary occupant of the White House and acted 'presidential'. The Teleprompter Jesus asks as if the office of the presidency is lucky to have him as an occupant.
554 | Lincolntf Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:27:22am |
re: #545 albusteve
That's horrible. Some days, the Government really pisses me off.
555 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:27:40am |
re: #549 SixDegrees
My reaction was that this was an attempt, whether calculated or out of long habit, to appear smart by using a big word where a smaller one - like 'chosen' - would have worked just as well, or better.
It's common for truly smart people who have a deep understanding of the topic at hand to present it in terms that anyone can understand. Using three-dollar words where two-centers will do is often the mark of someone masking ignorance, or who holds their listeners in contempt.
And it isn't even a good sound bite. It's a downright lousy one, in fact. 0's losing it.
In my opinion, it is a total misuse of the word, all together, just wrong.
556 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:27:46am |
re: #536 Walter L. Newton
And that statement is a perfect example that Barry is not a intelligent person. That is such an improper use of a word "calibrated," what does that mean, nothing, it's a 60 dollar word coming out of the mouth of a street level politician, and it makes no sense at all.
Is that what they teach at Harvard, big words, no meaning?
For Barry, it's accurate. He "calibrates" his message for an individual audience more than any pol I've seen. He had a target audience and adjust the message every time.
It many not be proper usage, but I think for Barry it was an accurate usage. He twisted the little knob in his head, and the line came out but for the wrong audience.
I think a lot of his umm, ahhs, and urrrs are precisely that "calibration" going on. What he really thinks is not going to fly with the general public, so as the thought forms he "calibrates" it so it comes out in a palatable form.
557 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:28:52am |
re: #548 Walter L. Newton
I've said it before, here on LGF, about Barry, but he is not very smart. He cannot talk off the cuff about a subject, yet he tries and fails every time.
Almost every Lizard here can form a paragraph or two, on the fly, hour after hours, about a wide range of subjects, and we get our point across.
He can't even spend 5 minutes talking without confusing everyone. Well, confusing everyone who is really listening.
558 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:28:53am |
re: #553 Truck Monkey
Never. The man had dignity and humility. He knew that he was a temporary occupant of the White House and acted 'presidential'. The Teleprompter Jesus asks as if the office of the presidency is lucky to have him as an occupant.
The Divine right of the Presidency belongs to The Won.
559 | albusteve Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:28:54am |
re: #551 Gus 802
Yep. It's like when you even find a feather from a protected bird? You're supposed to just look at it. Pick it up and take it with you and it's a federal crime.
the goal of the federal govt is to smother the citizens, pound away until we all submit
560 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:29:15am |
re: #555 Walter L. Newton
In my opinion, it is a total misuse of the word, all together, just wrong.
That, too.
561 | pingjockey Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:29:21am |
re: #555 Walter L. Newton
That is correct. "Calibrated" has a certain connotations and as far as 'calibrating words'...um...NO! Trying to sound officious and coming off ignorant.
562 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:29:28am |
re: #536 Walter L. Newton
And that statement is a perfect example that Barry is not a intelligent person. That is such an improper use of a word "calibrated," what does that mean, nothing, it's a 60 dollar word coming out of the mouth of a street level politician, and it makes no sense at all.
Is that what they teach at Harvard, big words, no meaning?
By his own admission he was a stoner & poor student in high school.
No problem, he get's an academic scholarship to Occidental College in LA, then on to the Ivy League & eventually Harvard Law.
A charmed life.
563 | albusteve Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:30:08am |
re: #548 Walter L. Newton
I've said it before, here on LGF, about Barry, but he is not very smart. He cannot talk off the cuff about a subject, yet he tries and fails every time.
Almost every Lizard here can form a paragraph or two, on the fly, hour after hours, about a wide range of subjects, and we get our point across.
He can't even spend 5 minutes talking without confusing everyone. Well, confusing everyone who is really listening.
his clumsy rhetoric amuses me...same with some of the liberals that post here
564 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:30:09am |
re: #543 FrogMarch
Crowley didn't vote for Obama, so he doesn't deserve an apology.
That, and, a president interfering with the local police is really quite astonishing.
Someone should tell that moron that you don't "continue to believe" that Gates overreacted as well, because on the NATIONALLY TELEVISED PRESS CONFERENCE, all he said was that the police acted "stupidly".
FUCK him.
566 | itellu3times Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:30:49am |
re: #549 SixDegrees
My reaction was that this was an attempt, whether calculated or out of long habit, to appear smart by using a big word where a smaller one - like 'chosen' - would have worked just as well, or better.
It's common for truly smart people who have a deep understanding of the topic at hand to present it in terms that anyone can understand. Using three-dollar words where two-centers will do is often the mark of someone masking ignorance, or who holds their listeners in contempt.
And it isn't even a good sound bite. It's a downright lousy one, in fact. 0's losing it.
I thought he would lose it a LOT faster, like during the campaign. I sort of like it when he uses big words, and so do some others, like a lot of MSM droids. It doesn't have to be hiding anything, it's just a style, and those big words are just hanging around ready to be used.
But it *does* piss off a fair number of people, just as you say. And the more the big words are not followed up by effective action, the more people I think they piss off rather than impress.
567 | albusteve Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:31:12am |
re: #555 Walter L. Newton
In my opinion, it is a total misuse of the word, all together, just wrong.
jive is jive
568 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:31:15am |
569 | reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:31:23am |
re: #552 itellu3times
Morning, Lizardonia!
Just turned on the radio in time to hear The One's weakly speech. He just keeps getting more like he is, than he ever was. ... .
His "weakly" speech?
Was that on purpose?
570 | Erik The Red Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:31:57am |
Morning Lizards. It looks like Lance Armstrong is going to finish 3rd in the TDF. Great climb today to maintain his 3rd place. Tomorrows stage is purely a procession.
571 | pingjockey Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:32:06am |
Our resident Yogi Bera, master of mixed metaphors and such, tfk makes more sense than anything off the cuff the one has ever uttered.
572 | Kenneth Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:32:30am |
re: #542 opnion
Once upon a time I took a date to a Spanish restaurant. She was a lovely woman and wanted to practice her Spanish. She kept trying to order tacos and burritos and guacamole. The waiter patiently explained this was a Spanish restaurant, not a Mexican restaurant. My date would say, yes I know, I've been to Mexico, and then asked for another Mexican dish. The waiter rolled his eyes at me, and I ordered a bunch of tapas for the both of us. I tried to explain that Spain was in Europe, but I still don't think she got it.
573 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:32:55am |
re: #571 pingjockey
Our resident Yogi Bera, master of mixed metaphors and such, tfk makes more sense than anything off the cuff the one has ever uttered.
DING!
574 | Gus Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:32:57am |
575 | itellu3times Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:33:21am |
576 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:33:46am |
re: #571 pingjockey
Our resident Yogi Bera, master of mixed metaphors and such, tfk makes more sense than anything off the cuff the one has ever uttered.
Yeah, TFK is basically a word puzzle every time he posts but somehow, his points still come across as clear as the light of day.
577 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:34:45am |
re: #563 albusteve
his clumsy rhetoric amuses me...same with some of the liberals that post here
Get ready, they're gonna get ya.
578 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:36:14am |
re: #572 Kenneth
Once upon a time I took a date to a Spanish restaurant. She was a lovely woman and wanted to practice her Spanish. She kept trying to order tacos and burritos and guacamole. The waiter patiently explained this was a Spanish restaurant, not a Mexican restaurant. My date would say, yes I know, I've been to Mexico, and then asked for another Mexican dish. The waiter rolled his eyes at me, and I ordered a bunch of tapas for the both of us. I tried to explain that Spain was in Europe, but I still don't think she got it.
But she looked good?
579 | itellu3times Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:36:25am |
re: #563 albusteve
his clumsy rhetoric amuses me...same with some of the liberals that post here
Sounds like a good nic:
And that's this evening's news, I'm your reporter Clumsy Rhetoric, good night America!
580 | albusteve Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:37:10am |
Federal officials have expressed concerns that the drug cartel battles plaguing Mexico could spill into the United States with the targeting of U.S. law enforcement officials. Slotter said investigators aren't ruling out the possibility that Rosas was slain by drug smugglers or even human smugglers.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
well, DUH!...shore am glad yer on my side Barney!
581 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:37:20am |
re: #556 jcm
I think a lot of his umm, ahhs, and urrrs are precisely that "calibration" going on. What he really thinks is not going to fly with the general public, so as the thought forms he "calibrates" it so it comes out in a palatable form.
ding!
582 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:38:14am |
Now CNN has Prof Gates daughter, who was not there to explain what really happened.
584 | reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:38:59am |
Oh, fer . . .
I have "HLN" on (new title for CNN Headline News).
They just referred to Obama's "health care reform".
It isn't health "care" reform.
It's health care payment "reform".
585 | albusteve Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:39:02am |
re: #577 opnion
Get ready, they're gonna get ya.
I like simple phraseology...stuff like...
fuck off Maynard
like that
586 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:39:31am |
587 | reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:39:53am |
588 | Gus Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:40:24am |
re: #556 jcm
For Barry, it's accurate. He "calibrates" his message for an individual audience more than any pol I've seen. He had a target audience and adjust the message every time.
It many not be proper usage, but I think for Barry it was an accurate usage. He twisted the little knob in his head, and the line came out but for the wrong audience.
I think a lot of his umm, ahhs, and urrrs are precisely that "calibration" going on. What he really thinks is not going to fly with the general public, so as the thought forms he "calibrates" it so it comes out in a palatable form.
President Platitude
589 | itellu3times Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:40:29am |
re: #572 Kenneth
Once upon a time I took a date to a Spanish restaurant. She was a lovely woman and wanted to practice her Spanish. She kept trying to order tacos and burritos and guacamole. The waiter patiently explained this was a Spanish restaurant, not a Mexican restaurant. My date would say, yes I know, I've been to Mexico, and then asked for another Mexican dish. The waiter rolled his eyes at me, and I ordered a bunch of tapas for the both of us. I tried to explain that Spain was in Europe, but I still don't think she got it.
I think you must be suffering under an Andalusian.
590 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:40:32am |
re: #570 Erik The Red
Morning Lizards. It looks like Lance Armstrong is going to finish 3rd in the TDF. Great climb today to maintain his 3rd place. Tomorrows stage is purely a procession.
Woot! That's awesome. Too bad for Kloden. It would have been super-double plus cool if Astana took 1-2-3.
Contador - Armstrong - Kloden.
But Lance coming in 3rd and having a place on the podium is just amazing.
591 | Kenneth Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:40:34am |
re: #556 jcm
Obama knew exactly what he was saying when he used the word "jigger". That was calculated.
593 | UncleRancher Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:40:45am |
re: #585 albusteve
Beware anytime a politican utters "reform" You are about to get screwed.
594 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:41:22am |
595 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:41:44am |
Cops aren't the only ones The Won thinks is stoopid.
He described that as a "marketplace where they can compare the price, quality and services of a wide variety of plans, many of which will provide better coverage at lower costs than the plans they have now."
596 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:41:53am |
re: #593 UncleRancher
Beware anytime a politican utters "reform" You are about to get screwed.
HIDE YOUR WALLET.
597 | albusteve Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:42:06am |
598 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:43:09am |
re: #595 jcm
Obama is such a liar. The dems plan will take small business to the cleaners.
He must really think we are all a bunch of stupids.
/I guess that was your point.
599 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:43:43am |
What do you think of officer Crowley going to the Whit House to have a beer with Barry & Gates?
Isn't Gates still considering a law suit? I either wouldn't go or I would say, 'My lawyer who will accompany me & I prefer Cabernet,
or do you think that White cops just drink beer, you racist?
600 | Lincolntf Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:43:49am |
re: #582 opnion
The Boston Herald site is showing this message: "We are experiencing high traffic volumes and consequently are unable to serve additional web pages" so I can't link to it at the moment.
Earlier I did and the very last paragraph of one of the articles had a Union head saying that the entire episode is on tape "from call to conclusion" or something like that. It kind of contradicts other stories I've heard, but if it's true then we should all find out what happened eventually. I wonder who'll release/leak the tapes?
601 | itellu3times Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:43:58am |
re: #595 jcm
He described that as a "marketplace where they can compare the price, quality and services of a wide variety of plans, many of which will provide better coverage at lower costs than the plans they have now."
Yah, what a concept, hey? And to think, it's all his invention!
/gaaah
603 | reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:44:26am |
Volunteers needed!
604 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:44:36am |
re: #591 Kenneth
Obama knew exactly what he was saying when he used the word "jigger". That was calculated.
Ehhh...I think he was just stupid and was trying to say "jiggle".
Could be wrong, wouldn't be surprised.
605 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:44:40am |
606 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:45:44am |
re: #599 opnion
What do you think of officer Crowley going to the Whit House to have a beer with Barry & Gates?
Isn't Gates still considering a law suit? I either wouldn't go or I would say, 'My lawyer who will accompany me & I prefer Cabernet,
or do you think that White cops just drink beer, you racist?
Is he going for sure? I would tell Obama and Gates to shove their beer bottles up their asses.
607 | Sharmuta Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:45:51am |
608 | Lincolntf Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:46:11am |
re: #599 opnion
I think that it's kind of a tough thing to say no to. The Pres. should have waited for the invitation to be accepted before making it public. Now Crowley can only look un-gracious if he turns down the offer.
609 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:47:04am |
5 freedoms you'd lose in health care reform
A close reading of the two main bills, one backed by Democrats in the House and the other issued by Sen. Edward Kennedy's Health committee, contradict the President's assurances. To be sure, it isn't easy to comb through their 2,000 pages of tortured legal language. But page by page, the bills reveal a web of restrictions, fines, and mandates that would radically change your health-care coverage.1. Freedom to choose what's in your plan
2. Freedom to be rewarded for healthy living, or pay your real costs
3. Freedom to choose high-deductible coverage
4. Freedom to keep your existing plan
5. Freedom to choose your doctors
610 | wahabicorridor Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:47:11am |
re: #600 Lincolntf
The Boston Herald site is showing this message: "We are experiencing high traffic volumes and consequently are unable to serve additional web pages" so I can't link to it at the moment.
Earlier I did and the very last paragraph of one of the articles had a Union head saying that the entire episode is on tape "from call to conclusion" or something like that. It kind of contradicts other stories I've heard, but if it's true then we should all find out what happened eventually. I wonder who'll release/leak the tapes?
I'm pretty sure in the press conference the cops held yesterday they said the city solicitor is possession of the tapes.
Which tells me they're preparing to defend a lawsuit from Gates.
611 | Kenneth Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:47:21am |
re: #587 reine.de.tout
Of course she looked good. When she finally realized her mistake, she was mad at me. First and last date.
612 | albusteve Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:47:25am |
re: #608 Lincolntf
I think that it's kind of a tough thing to say no to. The Pres. should have waited for the invitation to be accepted before making it public. Now Crowley can only look un-gracious if he turns down the offer.
bullshit...now BO is using him...fuck that
613 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:47:40am |
I bet Obama drinks RED Stripe, since he's such a collectivist punk.
614 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:47:48am |
re: #606 TheMatrix31
Is he going for sure? I would tell Obama and Gates to shove their beer bottles up their asses.
I don't think that the three good old boys having a beer together at the Whie House has been confirmed.
I don't think that the officer should go. He would just be a prop in a photo op to establish how cool of a mediator Obama is.
615 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:48:22am |
re: #608 Lincolntf
I think that it's kind of a tough thing to say no to. The Pres. should have waited for the invitation to be accepted before making it public. Now Crowley can only look un-gracious if he turns down the offer.
When Gates goes off in the White House, the USSS can cuff him this time.
616 | itellu3times Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:48:25am |
re: #608 Lincolntf
I think that it's kind of a tough thing to say no to. The Pres. should have waited for the invitation to be accepted before making it public. Now Crowley can only look un-gracious if he turns down the offer.
Sure, cop has no problem flying 600 miles for an afternoon beer.
617 | Truck Monkey Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:49:18am |
re: #606 TheMatrix31
Is he going for sure? I would tell Obama and Gates to shove their beer bottles up their asses.
Me too. They want to get Officer Crowley in a room together in the White House to show him the error of his ways. I would tell them both to fuck off as well. I would then sue for defamation of character. To think that these shitheads thought the officer could be bought off with a beer and a trip to DC!
618 | Gus Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:49:24am |
re: #615 jcm
When Gates goes off in the White House, the USSS can cuff him this time.
That would be funny.
619 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:49:30am |
re: #599 opnion
What do you think of officer Crowley going to the Whit House to have a beer with Barry & Gates?
Isn't Gates still considering a law suit? I either wouldn't go or I would say, 'My lawyer who will accompany me & I prefer Cabernet,
or do you think that White cops just drink beer, you racist?
It's an attempt to change the topic. He's trying to shift blame from himself onto Gates and Crowley.
He's also doing it in the most condescending way possible - "Now, you two children just need to take a time out and learn how to be nice to each other," with 0 casting himself as parental figure.
But at bottom, it's a diversion.
620 | Kenneth Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:49:56am |
re: #604 TheMatrix31
He said "jigger the lock" and then made a joke about him getting shot. He was deliberately painting an ugly picture. He knew what he was saying. His non-apology not withstanding.
621 | UncleRancher Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:50:05am |
How about this for a plan.
No health "insurance". Get rid of it. It is the problem, not the solution. Everyone pays their own bills.
Put up to 20% of your paycheck pre-tax into a health savings account. Minimum 10% mandatory. Money in excess of of most expensive surgery is yours to keep. Account passes to next generation without inheritance tax. No malpractice insurance. Outlaw malpractice lawsuits. Instead, jerk the license of stupid doctors who make mistakes. Doctors eliminate a 200,000 dollar bill each year and pass the savings on. Same for hospitals, clinics, and all the other practitioners. Doctors required to provide 10% of their effort on pro-bono work for those who still can't pay.
622 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:50:29am |
re: #608 Lincolntf
I think that it's kind of a tough thing to say no to. The Pres. should have waited for the invitation to be accepted before making it public. Now Crowley can only look un-gracious if he turns down the offer.
Gates has got a lawyer. I think that Crowley would be ok saying that "It is inapropriate to meet at this time while Professor Gates is contemplating a law suit."
623 | Lincolntf Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:50:29am |
re: #610 wahabicorridor
They did say that, but once the Unions, the reporters and the people at Harvard start looking for "their" copies, there's a chance that they'll come out from one of any number of sources.
I wouldn't be shocked if Smoking Gun got ahold of them.
625 | itellu3times Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:50:59am |
re: #617 Truck Monkey
Me too. They want to get Officer Crowley in a room together in the White House to show him the error of his ways.
Maybe they want to offer him a position.
/insert yer own joke here
626 | Henchman Ghazi-808 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:51:03am |
Obama moves to dampen uproar over comment on race
Read more: [Link: www.sfgate.com...]
627 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:51:10am |
Shit...it's 8am?! I'm going to bed. Good night, dudes.
628 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:51:19am |
629 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:52:15am |
re: #620 Kenneth
He said "jigger the lock" and then made a joke about him getting shot. He was deliberately painting an ugly picture. He knew what he was saying. His non-apology not withstanding.
Could be. The "getting shot" joke was definitely more forward and shady.
630 | albusteve Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:52:40am |
re: #619 SixDegrees
It's an attempt to change the topic. He's trying to shift blame from himself onto Gates and Crowley.
He's also doing it in the most condescending way possible - "Now, you two children just need to take a time out and learn how to be nice to each other," with 0 casting himself as parental figure.
But at bottom, it's a diversion.
Crowley should hold a presser and Take out BO, Pat Condell style...short, succinct, no mercy...whoever does it will be a national hero, at least to me
631 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:52:55am |
re: #619 SixDegrees
It's an attempt to change the topic. He's trying to shift blame from himself onto Gates and Crowley.
He's also doing it in the most condescending way possible - "Now, you two children just need to take a time out and learn how to be nice to each other," with 0 casting himself as parental figure.
But at bottom, it's a diversion.
Exactly
632 | Henchman Ghazi-808 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:53:14am |
"The fact that this has garnered so much attention, I think, is testimony to the fact that these are issues that are still very sensitive here in America," Obama said.
Our Post Racial President. Maybe if he hadn't opened up his mouth it wouldn't be as big a deal as it is.
633 | Lincolntf Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:53:42am |
re: #622 opnion
He could definitely say that. I hope he doesn't go, but I can't imagine what it's like to be living in Cambridge and having your arm-twisted by Obama.
Has he publicly stated that he is or is not going? I haven't seen an answer.
634 | rageman Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:54:15am |
Its gonna be a teachable moment... for BO's education that is. Crowley is a hero already.
635 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:54:27am |
re: #609 jcm
The basic freedom of spending your money as you see fit--your money is the fruit of your labor, an extension of your body.
636 | albusteve Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:54:42am |
637 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:55:12am |
re: #620 Kenneth
He said "jigger the lock" and then made a joke about him getting shot. He was deliberately painting an ugly picture. He knew what he was saying. His non-apology not withstanding.
Did you notice how he said "my house"?
638 | wahabicorridor Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:56:01am |
re: #623 Lincolntf
I wouldn't be shocked if Smoking Gun got ahold of them.
Wouldn't that be fabulous?
Newt Gingrich has a good piece on Henry Waxman
Eliminating the identity and citizenship requirements for enrolling in Medicaid is a recurring theme with Waxman. He is at it again with his current legislation. His bill would also prevent states from scaling back eligibility for Medicaid whether or not they can or want to afford it in the future. He also bans -- yes bans -- the purchase of individual private health insurance as of next January.
639 | Henchman Ghazi-808 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:57:01am |
Gibbs said just Friday morning that the president had probably said most of what he was going to say, and that the only problem was media "obsession."
Hours later, Obama showed up to try to put the issue to rest.
This AP story is a target rich environment of fallacy and obfuscation, with fat dollups of irony mixed.
They clearly don't have their shit together as an administration.
640 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:57:31am |
re: #633 Lincolntf
He could definitely say that. I hope he doesn't go, but I can't imagine what it's like to be living in Cambridge and having your arm-twisted by Obama.
Has he publicly stated that he is or is not going? I haven't seen an answer.
Crowley hasn't said anything about it publicly. Obama went public with a private conversation.
It sounds like Crowley didn't exactly jump at the chance to party with Gates & Barry.
641 | BlueRoses Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:57:35am |
Saturday morning and nothing going on guys. Check you all later.
642 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:57:51am |
re: #609 jcm
A close reading of the two main bills, one backed by Democrats in the House and the other issued by Sen. Edward Kennedy's Health committee, contradict the President's assurances. To be sure, it isn't easy to comb through their 2,000 pages of tortured legal language. But page by page, the bills reveal a web of restrictions, fines, and mandates that would radically change your health-care coverage.
What kind of bullshit world to we live in where Teddy Kennedy and his staff are in charge of writing our freedoms away?
643 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:58:45am |
re: #635 MandyManners
The basic freedom of spending your money as you see fit--your money is the fruit of your labor, an extension of your body.
When you get right down to it.
Life = Property. Liberty is how it's converted. You can calculated how much of your life "property" worth.
Liberals think wealth and property are some how taken, not created.
645 | Truck Monkey Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:58:56am |
Did someone say Barry Manilow?
646 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:59:06am |
647 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 25, 2009 7:59:25am |
Beer saves the day (again)...
Gates Says 'Yes' To Beer With Crowley
649 | Sharmuta Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:00:28am |
re: #647 Killgore Trout
Beer saves the day (again)...
Gates Says 'Yes' To Beer With Crowley
Is there anything beer can't do? See #407.
651 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:01:40am |
re: #603 reine.de.tout
Volunteers needed!
LONDON (AFP) – Scientists are looking for women willing to eat chocolate every day for a year -- all in the name of medical science.
I already do that.
652 | albusteve Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:02:02am |
re: #647 Killgore Trout
Beer saves the day (again)...
Gates Says 'Yes' To Beer With Crowley
don't do it Officer Crowley...they are using you
653 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:02:16am |
re: #647 Killgore Trout
Beer saves the day (again)...
Gates Says 'Yes' To Beer With Crowley
Next on Oprah.
654 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:02:25am |
re: #647 Killgore Trout
Beer saves the day (again)...
Gates Says 'Yes' To Beer With Crowley
Yeah, but it doesn't look like Crowley has accepted yet.
He would only be a prop for Barry to manipulate a "Stupidly acting" cop.
Barry could just recalibrate
655 | Henchman Ghazi-808 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:02:27am |
Supporters including Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson called the arrest an outrageous act of racial profiling. Public interest increased when a photograph surfaced of the handcuffed Gates being escorted off his porch amid three officers, two white and one black.
Cambridge police moved to drop the disorderly conduct charge on Tuesday — without apology, but calling the case "regrettable."
That didn't end the national debate: Some said Gates was responsible for his own arrest because of his response to Crowley, while others said Gates was justified to yell at the officer.
Obama's criticism of the police only added fuel to the racial debate.
Wow, crazy times. This is not a racial debate, it's a racialist debate. The actual racialists want it to die down lest they get exposed for what they really are; agitators.
656 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:02:54am |
re: #642 FrogMarch
What kind of bullshit world to we live in where Teddy Kennedy and his staff are in charge of writing our freedoms away?
Why is Sir Swimmer still in office is beyond me. How many Senators solicited Soviet assistance in blocking a Presidents foreign policy and reelection?
657 | rightymouse Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:03:08am |
659 | albusteve Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:06:13am |
660 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:07:07am |
re: #655 BigPapa
Please explain the racal profiling...
Cops get a break in call.
Cops arrive find individual in house in question.
Asking that individual for ID is racial profiling?
661 | Truck Monkey Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:07:08am |
I know that I have ended up in some rather great places after drinking a lot of beer.
662 | Lincolntf Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:07:14am |
re: #655 BigPapa
Sharpton, Jackson, Gates, Obama, etc. talking about the dangers of racial division is just too ironic.
663 | Gus Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:07:52am |
665 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:09:40am |
re: #660 jcm
Please explain the racal profiling...
Cops get a break in call.
Cops arrive find individual in house in question.Asking that individual for ID is racial profiling?
Of course it is. Had the subject not been a minority, the police would have never asked for ID. Heck, they would have helped the guy move things out of the house assuming that it was all just going to storage.
666 | Miss Trixie Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:10:06am |
♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪
I dropped in to say hello and I can't stay long as I've a lot to do today. Decompressing from a hell week and I'm still trying to get my brains unscrambled. (I put the milk carton on the stove and the teapot in the fridge.) I'm beat.
{realwest} Morning, luv *smoochie-smooch*100 I hope today finds you well and in good spirits and do know that you're always in my thoughts and prayers. *hug*
I'll be back later and we can talk.
Have a good day, {ellybelly.} :)
667 | KenJen Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:10:07am |
re: #637 MandyManners
Did you notice how he said "my house"?
Yeah, but the American people own it. I can't wait to send him an eviction notice in 2012.
668 | Henchman Ghazi-808 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:10:10am |
re: #660 jcm
Dammit JCM, again you have made the egregious mistake of using reason, logic, and pragmatism in assessing a situation. You will need to sign up for Emotional Intellectualism Re-Education Camp.
669 | Truck Monkey Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:10:21am |
re: #660 jcm
Please explain the racal profiling...
Cops get a break in call.
Cops arrive find individual in house in question.Asking that individual for ID is racial profiling?
It is all bullshit. Officer Crowley was just doing his job. I can't wait until the tapes are released. We will see what as asswipe Gates was. Please release the tape soon. If Gates had any shame he would want this whole thing to go away.
670 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:11:03am |
re: #665 opnion
Of course it is. Had the subject not been a minority, the police would have never asked for ID. Heck, they would have helped the guy move things out of the house assuming that it was all just going to storage.
Ahh, thank you for clearing that up!
671 | wahabicorridor Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:11:03am |
672 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:11:59am |
re: #667 KenJen
Yeah, but the American people own it. I can't wait to send him an eviction notice in 2012.
So you would just throw a Black man out? What if he has to return to his mansion in Hyde Park? Where is your humanity?
673 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:12:11am |
re: #669 Truck Monkey
It is all bullshit. Officer Crowley was just doing his job. I can't wait until the tapes are released. We will see what as asswipe Gates was. Please release the tape soon. If Gates had any shame he would want this whole thing to go away.
I'd like to see the tapes released. I bet there's a legal debate, wait till Gates sues, and blow his ass out of the water with them, or release them now and see if he backs down.
674 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:12:19am |
re: #667 KenJen
Yeah, but the American people own it. I can't wait to send him an eviction notice in 2012.
WOOOHOOO!
675 | Lincolntf Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:12:20am |
re: #665 opnion
They weren't racially profiling. At the very worst, they were asshole profiling.
...They came for the assholes, and I did nothing...good, no more assholes...
676 | albusteve Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:12:35am |
re: #669 Truck Monkey
It is all bullshit. Officer Crowley was just doing his job. I can't wait until the tapes are released. We will see what as asswipe Gates was. Please release the tape soon. If Gates had any shame he would want this whole thing to go away.
victimitis...no cure
677 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:12:51am |
678 | KenJen Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:13:35am |
re: #669 Truck Monkey
It is all bullshit. Officer Crowley was just doing his job. I can't wait until the tapes are released. We will see what as asswipe Gates was. Please release the tape soon. If Gates had any shame he would want this whole thing to go away.
My opinion of him would change completely if he came out and said "I was wrong. I was tired and overreacted. Officer Crowley was doing his job and I apologize."
679 | Henchman Ghazi-808 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:13:42am |
re: #669 Truck Monkey
If Gates had any shame he would want this whole thing to go away.
If he acted this way to begin with odds are he'll double down by starting a lawsuit and hope the Cambridge Police will want this whole thing to go away. I hope not, but nothing would surprise me at this point.
680 | rageman Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:16:24am |
I asked a student at Harvard " where is the library at?"
He replied " don't end a sentence with a preposition".
So I tried again: "where is the library at, asshole?
681 | wahabicorridor Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:16:55am |
Scott at PowerLine has a cutting piece on the O's narcissism.
Obama's grandiosity first struck me in his treatment of the issues related to Jeremiah Wright last year during the campaign. When Obama finally disavowed Wright, he explained: "[A]t a certain point, if what somebody says contradicts what you believe so fundamentally, and then he questions whether or not you believe it in front of the National Press Club, then that's enough. That's -- that's a show of disrespect to me." In Obama's world, Jeremiah Wright crossed the line when he showed disprect to Barack Obama. I thought that the adolescent grandiosity and adolscent pettiness of Obama's remarks were the most shocking revelation of the episode.
682 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:17:56am |
re: #679 BigPapa
If he acted this way to begin with odds are he'll double down by starting a lawsuit and hope the Cambridge Police will want this whole thing to go away. I hope not, but nothing would surprise me at this point.
Professor Gates thinks in racial terms. He teaches African & Africn American History. Somebody mentioned earlier on TV that in a book he wrote, he complains about being followed around a department store because he is Black. I think that the guy saw the arrival of the police as an opportunity to get outraged & maybe get a little cash from a suit.
683 | Henchman Ghazi-808 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:18:15am |
re: #678 KenJen
My opinion of him would change completely if he came out and said "I was wrong. I was tired and overreacted. Officer Crowley was doing his job and I apologize."
It takes real character to admit wrongdoing. Jeff Bezos comes to mind over a much less important subject. Which means, this is a more important issue, meaning it's more important to do the right thing because more rides on the outcome of your actions.
I agree, I would respect Gates greatly if he put this whole thing to rest and put out a real and unwavering apology, unlike Obama's non-apology apology. I'm expecting to be let down. However, since Obama got involved and backed him up, he can't take down The One.
684 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:19:56am |
re: #675 Lincolntf
They weren't racially profiling. At the very worst, they were asshole profiling.
...They came for the assholes, and I did nothing...good, no more assholes...
Assholes profile themselves... one morning we had the engines out in front of the stations doing our morning check. A cop pulls over a kid (white) right in front of the station. Later we found out the cop was coming to the station for a cup of coffee, and as he went by the kid the kid flipped him off and started screaming obscenities at him. The kids' car didn't have a drivers side mirror and that the PC for the stop.
While sitting there in front of us, the kid is screaming at the cop, the cop tells the kid "Sir, I would advise you to watch your language." That cracked all us firefighters up. The cop runs the kid, and he's got a laundry list of wants and warrants so on go the cuffs, by the this time the kid is shrieking about rights police brutality, police state, oppression. We are just ROFL.
685 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:20:09am |
re: #675 Lincolntf
They weren't racially profiling. At the very worst, they were asshole profiling.
...They came for the assholes, and I did nothing...good, no more assholes...
Gates sees racism everywhere. He must find comfort in jumping on to the cross
686 | BlueRoses Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:21:39am |
re: #680 rageman
I asked a student at Harvard " where is the library at?"
He replied " don't end a sentence with a preposition".So I tried again: "where is the library at, asshole?
Thumbs up for you ;) ROFL
687 | Henchman Ghazi-808 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:22:03am |
re: #682 opnion
That's totally cynical. And absolutely correct. I have little doubt Gates has considered that and acted accordingly. But I would like nothing more than to be pleasantly shocked and have this whole thing implode on itself should Gates come out and say 'my bad.' Doing so risks devaluing the investment of a significant portion of his life's work, so I'm not holding my breath.
688 | BlueCanuck Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:22:57am |
good morning all. *sigh* Trying to find an online song for beer. Appropiately named "Hooray For Beer". Can't even find the album anymore either.
689 | Lincolntf Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:23:01am |
The Herald is back up and running. Boston Herald
I linked to one of about a dozen articles on Gates. Nobody seems to know what's on the tapes yet, but you can tell their getting antsy up in Beantown. I'd guess that there's at least a a 50/50 chance we hear them within a day or two.
690 | KenJen Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:23:01am |
re: #685 opnion
Gates sees racism everywhere. He must find comfort in jumping on to the cross
Yep. His whole life looks like it revolves around racism. Have you read his resume?
691 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:24:28am |
re: #690 KenJen
Yep. His whole life looks like it revolves around racism. Have you read his resume?
Link?
692 | Son of the Black Dog Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:25:39am |
re: #621 UncleRancher
How about this for a plan.
No health "insurance". Get rid of it. It is the problem, not the solution. Everyone pays their own bills.
Put up to 20% of your paycheck pre-tax into a health savings account. Minimum 10% mandatory. Money in excess of of most expensive surgery is yours to keep. Account passes to next generation without inheritance tax. No malpractice insurance. Outlaw malpractice lawsuits. Instead, jerk the license of stupid doctors who make mistakes. Doctors eliminate a 200,000 dollar bill each year and pass the savings on. Same for hospitals, clinics, and all the other practitioners. Doctors required to provide 10% of their effort on pro-bono work for those who still can't pay.
That's fine, and I gave you an up-ding. However, a catastrophic expense insurance policy would still be required. One round of chemotherapy would wipe out most people's savings. And what do you do with someone who develops a chronic disease, say MS?
693 | wahabicorridor Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:25:53am |
Mark Steyn on Gates. Hilarious
Professor Gates is now saying that, if Sgt. Crowley publicly apologizes for his racism, the prof will graciously agree to "educate him about the history of racism in America." Which is a helluva deal. I mean, Ivy League parents remortgage their homes to pay Gates for the privilege of lecturing their kids, and here he is offering to hector it away to some no-name lunkhead for free.
Must get food. BBL
694 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:26:32am |
re: #690 KenJen
Yep. His whole life looks like it revolves around racism. Have you read his resume?
I was listening to Micheal Medved yesterday he is acquainted, with Gates, he related was in a meeting with Gates, and Gates went off about something, he said the Crowley version is completely in keeping with Gates demeanor that he's observed.
695 | Henchman Ghazi-808 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:26:45am |
Racialism is on trial, this time the charges may stick. I hope this story stays in play because it's illustrating the real racial issues of today.
696 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:27:16am |
re: #640 opnion
Crowley hasn't said anything about it publicly. Obama went public with a private conversation.
It sounds like Crowley didn't exactly jump at the chance to party with Gates & Barry.
Again - this is an attempt to talk about something else. "Oooh, let's see how Gates reacts! Oooh, let's see what Crowley does!" is a complete distraction from the actual issue - 0bama pronouncing the police "stupid" after admitting he did not even know the facts of the matter.
It's not about Crowley and Gates; it's about 0bama, his rush to judgment and his slandering of law enforcement. No matter how much he wishes he could change the topic.
697 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:28:32am |
re: #693 wahabicorridor
Mark Steyn on Gates. Hilarious
The president of the United States may be reluctant to condemn Ayatollah Khamenei or Hugo Chávez or that guy in Honduras without examining all the nuances and footnotes, but sometimes there are outrages so heinous that even the famously nuanced must step up to the plate and speak truth to power. And thank God the leader of the free world had the guts to stand up and speak truth to municipal police Sgt. James Crowley.
ouch.
698 | Dustoff-507 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:28:36am |
What is the sam hell. I go away for a little while and you 'kids' mess up the place. (-:
Morning everyone...
699 | Sharmuta Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:28:42am |
re: #696 SixDegrees
Again - this is an attempt to talk about something else.
I don't know why we'd want to talk about something else. It's not as if Congress is trying to steal my wallet or something.
700 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:29:02am |
re: #687 BigPapa
That's totally cynical. And absolutely correct. I have little doubt Gates has considered that and acted accordingly. But I would like nothing more than to be pleasantly shocked and have this whole thing implode on itself should Gates come out and say 'my bad.' Doing so risks devaluing the investment of a significant portion of his life's work, so I'm not holding my breath.
The only way that Gates apologizes imo is if it becomes in the best interest of Obama.
Gates has already retained a lawyer from Harvard, a guy named Ogletree.
If this becomes a civil suit I can hear it now, "Your honor, my client was outrageously profiled & subjected to egregious indignaties. His self-esteem will only be restored by monetary damages of Five Million Dollars"
701 | KenJen Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:29:22am |
re: #691 MandyManners
Link?
You're gonna make me work this morning?/ My boss was reading it off for me yesterday. I'll go see if i can find it.
702 | Lincolntf Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:29:23am |
re: #693 wahabicorridor
Whatever else is on the tapes, I want to hear the "Your Mama!" line that Gates supposedly put out there.
I'm sure nothing will make the Harvard grandees prouder than the world hearing one of their highly esteemed faculty sounding like J.J. from Good Times.
703 | Dustoff-507 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:30:15am |
Wasn't Obama the Prez of the Harvard law review?
You think he would know better than to say something with out all the facts.
704 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:30:25am |
re: #647 Killgore Trout
Beer saves the day (again)...
Gates Says 'Yes' To Beer With Crowley
Next, on TMZ.
705 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:30:28am |
re: #698 Dustoff-507
What is the sam hell. I go away for a little while and you 'kids' mess up the place. (-:
Morning everyone...
DUSTOFF!
You got your bermuda shorts, wading pool, and drink with the little umbrella all set for today?
706 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:30:38am |
I wonder if Gates remembers this phrase: content of your character.
707 | rageman Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:30:49am |
Steyn is really good. Laser beam pen with a smiley face on it.
708 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:31:12am |
re: #690 KenJen
Yep. His whole life looks like it revolves around racism. Have you read his resume?
No, but I know that in his book he thought that he was profiled in a department store. That was on TV this morning. Nobody said a word to him, but he just knew.
709 | Dustoff-507 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:31:54am |
re: #705 jcm
Hell ya... then diving with the fishies tomorrow. Been in LA the last few weeks. )-:
710 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:33:08am |
re: #679 BigPapa
If he acted this way to begin with odds are he'll double down by starting a lawsuit and hope the Cambridge Police will want this whole thing to go away. I hope not, but nothing would surprise me at this point.
The police have said that they wish the matter had gone to trial, where actual facts could be presented in public and weighed on their merits. I'm certain the department would welcome a lawsuit from Gates just for those reasons.
I'm equally certain that is never, ever going to happen, now that the fact of full recordings being available is known.
Also, given the existence of such evidence, Gates will not want to invite a countersuit for slandering the police. I expect both sides to quietly fade away without much further comment.
The real problem, 0bama's fact-free condemnation of the police department, is being actively buried by the Administration. That's where the focus needs to be sharpened, and where it needs to remain.
711 | Henchman Ghazi-808 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:33:10am |
re: #693 wahabicorridor
I dunno. I wasn't there. Neither was the president of the United States, or the governor of Massachusetts or the mayor of Cambridge. All of whom have declared themselves firmly on the side of the Ivy League bigshot. And all of whom, as it happens, are African American. A black president, a black governor and a black mayor all agree with a black Harvard professor that he was racially profiled by a white-Latino-black police team, headed by a cop who teaches courses in how to avoid racial profiling.
I (heart) Steyn.
712 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:34:50am |
re: #709 Dustoff-507
Hell ya... then diving with the fishies tomorrow. Been in LA the last few weeks. )-:
Diving, the Edmonds dive park?
LA, sounds lovely this time of year!
713 | Dustoff-507 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:35:46am |
re: #711 BigPapa
May be Obama did pay attention during Rev Wright's racist rants?
Sure looking that way right now
714 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:36:09am |
re: #711 BigPapa
I dunno. I wasn't there. Neither was the president of the United States, or the governor of Massachusetts or the mayor of Cambridge. All of whom have declared themselves firmly on the side of the Ivy League bigshot. And all of whom, as it happens, are African American. A black president, a black governor and a black mayor all agree with a black Harvard professor that he was racially profiled by a white-Latino-black police team, headed by a cop who teaches courses in how to avoid racial profiling.
I (heart) Steyn.
I've heard anyone who was there, cop, neighbor, onlooker back up Gate's version either.
715 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:36:35am |
Hold it! Gates attorney now on CNN, saying that his client did nothing wrong. Clears all of that up.
Now his attorney also says tyhat they have no intention of filing a complaint against the Cambridge PD.
I just guessing that , they do not want that audio tape to be public.
716 | Lincolntf Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:37:29am |
re: #710 SixDegrees
"I'm equally certain that is never, ever going to happen, now that the fact of full recordings being available is known."
I've only seen one guy (Nee, from the Patrolman's Union, I think) say that they had a "full" recording of the event. Did you see that same article, or did you hear it somewhere else? I'm wondering if the eventual release of the tapes will be kind of anti-climactic and ultimately we'll get just a few garbled exchanges and a bunch of static. We shall see. I'm hoping for "full".
717 | Dustoff-507 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:38:12am |
re: #712 jcm
Naa, not this week. I'm going to Whidby island and Mukilteo.
LA sucked.. Except for Redondo beach on the board walk.
I have this HUGE kink in my neck! LOL
718 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:38:17am |
re: #713 Dustoff-507
May be Obama did pay attention during Rev Wright's racist rants?
Sure looking that way right now
He sat in those pews twice a month for twenty years. Bet that he heard something.
719 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:39:02am |
re: #692 Son of the Black Dog
That's fine, and I gave you an up-ding. However, a catastrophic expense insurance policy would still be required. One round of chemotherapy would wipe out most people's savings. And what do you do with someone who develops a chronic disease, say MS?
Correct. I was going to mention Type I diabetes as another example. I've got it, it's not going away, it costs me several hundred dollars a month to maintain even with insurance, and no amount of savings can be built up in time to take over those payments; nor would any amount of savings prior to when I was diagnosed (~27 years ago) have taken care of even emergency room treatment I received, let alone the aftermath of expenses related to insulin, syringes, additional prescriptions to manage a host of lovely side effects brought on by the disease, uncountable numbers of office visits...the list goes on.
Some portions of the idea - a medical savings account, for example - have merit. But it isn't a replacement for the current system.
720 | Son of the Black Dog Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:39:03am |
re: #706 MandyManners
I wonder if Gates remembers this phrase: content of your character.
People like him (and Obama) tend to have a very selective memory.
721 | Henchman Ghazi-808 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:39:36am |
re: #710 SixDegrees
Also, given the existence of such evidence, Gates will not want to invite a countersuit for slandering the police. I expect both sides to quietly fade away without much further comment.The real problem, 0bama's fact-free condemnation of the police department, is being actively buried by the Administration. That's where the focus needs to be sharpened, and where it needs to remain.
You might be right on the first point except I don't think they'd go for a countersuit since they're a public entity. They probably do want it to fade away, but hopefully won't fear a very public trial. I somewhat hope it goes there.
Obama's remarks on the situation are extremely problematic and I agree that he should pay for them with warranted criticism. His narcissism came into play and he just had to say something about it at risk of saying the wrong thing, and he fumbled. What's regrettable is that he won't learn the lesson.
722 | Dustoff-507 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:40:39am |
re: #718 opnion
Yep... and it's starting to show. Nice one Obama, thanks for pissing off half the nation because of your BIG mouth!
723 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:40:58am |
re: #717 Dustoff-507
I have this HUGE kink in my neck! LOL
You ole prev you! Might be whiplash, I'd have it looked at...
/;-P
724 | Dustoff-507 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:42:35am |
re: #721 BigPapa
They probably do want it to fade away, but hopefully won't fear a very public trial.
+++++++++++++++++++++
You can sure bet on the fact that Obama wants this to go away real fast.
725 | calcajun Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:42:56am |
re: #708 opnion
That's not racism. That's paranoia.
Again, I don't like the word "racist" as it is too broad and is too hand an epithet. "Bigotry" is more apropos.
Speaking academically, the best way to get rid of a bigoted attitude-- just don't care about it. If I don't care about your ethnicity and it does not factor in how I deal with you, then it should not matter to you. The problems come in when you expect to be treated in a certain way because of your ethnicity.
726 | outsidephilly Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:43:12am |
re: #719 SixDegrees
Correct. I was going to mention Type I diabetes as another example. I've got it, it's not going away, it costs me several hundred dollars a month to maintain even with insurance, and no amount of savings can be built up in time to take over those payments; nor would any amount of savings prior to when I was diagnosed (~27 years ago) have taken care of even emergency room treatment I received, let alone the aftermath of expenses related to insulin, syringes, additional prescriptions to manage a host of lovely side effects brought on by the disease, uncountable numbers of office visits...the list goes on.
Some portions of the idea - a medical savings account, for example - have merit. But it isn't a replacement for the current system.
My grandson has type 1, and he has a lot of years yet to live. His father's medical insurance covers the insulin pump he uses - would the government's insurance cover insulin pumps?
727 | Dustoff-507 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:43:25am |
re: #723 jcm
Yep,,, it's called the summer whiplash. LOL
728 | KenJen Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:44:03am |
Not what I was looking for but this should give you an idea what he's all about.
729 | Sharmuta Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:44:06am |
Obama hawks health care overhaul, citing study
President Barack Obama, citing a new White House study suggesting that small businesses pay far more per employee for health insurance than big companies, said Saturday the disparity is "unsustainable — it's unacceptable."
"And it's going to change when I sign health insurance reform into law," the president said in his weekly Internet and radio address.
A new study by the White House Council of Economic Advisers said small businesses pay up to 18 percent more to provide health insurance for their employees. As a result, fewer of them do so and the number has been shrinking further in these hard economic times.
Small businesses that don't provide insurance because they can't afford it are going to be forced to pick up this expense, I assume? That will cost more jobs and hurt earnings. What a boom for the economy that will be.
730 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:44:31am |
re: #716 Lincolntf
"I'm equally certain that is never, ever going to happen, now that the fact of full recordings being available is known."
I've only seen one guy (Nee, from the Patrolman's Union, I think) say that they had a "full" recording of the event. Did you see that same article, or did you hear it somewhere else? I'm wondering if the eventual release of the tapes will be kind of anti-climactic and ultimately we'll get just a few garbled exchanges and a bunch of static. We shall see. I'm hoping for "full".
I guess I should qualify: that's what's being bandied about at the moment. It may be no more than rumors. But several sources have said the police have tapes of everything from the neighbor's call to conversations in the patrol cars to audio of the incident itself (and possibly video?). It does, however, remain to be seen whether any of this is true.
Gate's reluctance to bring suit strongly suggests that uncertainty is not working in their favor.
731 | Henchman Ghazi-808 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:45:05am |
"I think it's fair to say, No. 1, any of us would be pretty angry," Obama said. "No. 2, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home. And No. 3 — what I think we know separate and apart from this incident — is that there is a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately, and that's just a fact."
Barrack Obama
733 | KenJen Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:46:46am |
re: #731 BigPapa
"I think it's fair to say, No. 1, any of us would be pretty angry," Obama said. "No. 2, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home. And No. 3 — what I think we know separate and apart from this incident — is that there is a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately, and that's just a fact."
Barrack Obama
I hate how he always assigns numbers to his points. Drives me crazy.
734 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:47:24am |
re: #730 SixDegrees
I guess I should qualify: that's what's being bandied about at the moment. It may be no more than rumors. But several sources have said the police have tapes of everything from the neighbor's call to conversations in the patrol cars to audio of the incident itself (and possibly video?). It does, however, remain to be seen whether any of this is true.
Gate's reluctance to bring suit strongly suggests that uncertainty is not working in their favor.
Has he said he's not gonna' sue?
735 | Dustoff-507 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:47:37am |
re: #731 BigPapa
Obama---> open your mouth, insert your BIG foot.
With his numbers falling already, this sure didn't help any.
Jezzz not so smart after all are we.
736 | Lincolntf Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:47:48am |
re: #731 BigPapa
I think it's fair to say, No. 1, any of us would be pretty angry if the President of the United States called us out in front of the whole fucking country...
737 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:48:07am |
re: #725 calcajun
That's not racism. That's paranoia.
Again, I don't like the word "racist" as it is too broad and is too hand an epithet. "Bigotry" is more apropos.
Speaking academically, the best way to get rid of a bigoted attitude-- just don't care about it. If I don't care about your ethnicity and it does not factor in how I deal with you, then it should not matter to you. The problems come in when you expect to be treated in a certain way because of your ethnicity.
As I understand it racism has to do with mking ceertin assumptions & sterotypes based on the race of another.
Bigotry adds hatred to the mix.
739 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:48:08am |
re: #726 outsidephilly
My grandson has type 1, and he has a lot of years yet to live. His father's medical insurance covers the insulin pump he uses - would the government's insurance cover insulin pumps?
Unknown. What is known is that with proper maintenance, Type I diabetics can live as long as anyone else. But that maintenance comes at a lifetime cost that is very high. And without it, I'd be dead in under a month, probably much less.
740 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:49:02am |
re: #731 BigPapa
"I think it's fair to say, No. 1, any of us would be pretty angry," Obama said. "No. 2, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home. And No. 3 — what I think we know separate and apart from this incident — is that there is a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately, and that's just a fact."
Barrack Obama
No. 1, no, most of us would be grateful for the police's prompt response to the call of a burglary at our home and probably offered them coffee or something to drink.
No. 2, he was arrested for being uncooperative.
No. 3. You are not helping.
741 | Dustoff-507 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:49:14am |
re: #734 MandyManners
Has he said he's not gonna' sue
+++++++++++++++++
I'll bet. You just know Obama is calling him 7/24 to drop this.
742 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:49:39am |
re: #734 MandyManners
Has he said he's not gonna' sue?
His attorney apparently just made that statement on television.
743 | calcajun Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:49:45am |
re: #737 opnion
There's the issue; I see it the other way around. "Racist" has the element of malice; "bigotry" means favoring one to the exclusion of the other.
744 | Henchman Ghazi-808 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:50:26am |
re: #733 KenJen
I hate how he always assigns numbers to his points. Drives me crazy.
I find it very helpful when he numbers his points, especially if he's making more than one. It's hard to get my head around these expansive constructs so numbering them helps me keep up.
/just a tad sarcy...
745 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:50:39am |
Later all. I am offf to mow the lawn & profile my neighbor.
I don't know what is ethnicity is, but what the hell.
See ya
746 | calcajun Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:52:34am |
re: #738 Dustoff-507
I thought it was "excavate till you hit bedrock--then, use dynamite".
747 | Lincolntf Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:52:59am |
re: #742 SixDegrees
How very generous. He's willing to have a beer with Crowley, he's willing to not sue...
Oh, wait a minute, HE'S the one who screwed up! The level of hubris approaches slapstick.
748 | Macker Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:53:03am |
Good Morning Lizards! Less than 1,000 comments on the Overnight Thread? Wow, must have been a slow news night!
749 | Dustoff-507 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:53:06am |
One thing we can be sure of. Obama made this statement thinking he could score some points and derail his health care talks that were crashing.
He FAILED at both.
750 | opnion Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:53:16am |
re: #743 calcajun
There's the issue; I see it the other way around. "Racist" has the element of malice; "bigotry" means favoring one to the exclusion of the other.
Racism has an element of superiority whil bigotry has malice.
I have to be honest, I just looked it up.
751 | Dustoff-507 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:53:22am |
re: #746 calcajun
I thought it was "excavate till you hit bedrock--then, use dynamite".
LOL... damn!
752 | dwells38 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:53:49am |
re: #440 Jimmah
Gotta love that reasoning. So if her saying that offends me will she stop? Or will she only agree with me once I threaten to kill her?
Post Purge disclaimer: (making an absurd point here, not an actual threat)
753 | yma o hyd Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:54:20am |
Hiya, Lizard Nation!
Sad news:
WWI veteran Patch dies aged 111
From that link:
'The last British survivor of the World War I trenches, Harry Patch, has died at the age of 111.
Mr Patch was conscripted into the Army aged 18 and fought in the Battle of Passchendaele at Ypres in 1917 in which more than 70,000 British soldiers died. '
Now there are no surviving veterans of WWI in Great Britain ...
This is so sad, following so quickly after the death of Henry Allingham, 113, one of the first members of the RAF ...
754 | Dustoff-507 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:54:24am |
755 | outsidephilly Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:54:31am |
re: #739 SixDegrees
Unknown. What is known is that with proper maintenance, Type I diabetics can live as long as anyone else. But that maintenance comes at a lifetime cost that is very high. And without it, I'd be dead in under a month, probably much less.
I volunteer at Diabetes Camps..., and at the camps are just a fraction of the children living with type 1 diabetes. These kids are just learning how to manage their blood sugars, they know that insulin isn't a cure, its their life support.
Over the last few years we started bringing in kids with type 11 diabetes. Teaching the kids better food choices, and encouraging exercise, as little as walking, often brings their sugars to reasonable levels.
757 | BignJames Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:56:05am |
re: #729 Sharmuta
If he wants to combat "prices that are spiraling out of contol and are unsustainable ", maybe he should take on college tuitions.
758 | Lincolntf Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:56:07am |
re: #749 Dustoff-507
How sorry do you think he is that he planted that question?
Hoist with his own petard.
759 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:56:13am |
760 | Dustoff-507 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:56:59am |
Ok folks.
I'm out of here. House to clean, truck to wash and yep, grass to cut.
So much for my day off.
761 | Dustoff-507 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:57:44am |
re: #758 Lincolntf
Yeah think... What a dummy and man is he paying for it.
763 | outsidephilly Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:58:24am |
Have a great day, all ..., I'm outta here, time for me to get on with the day!
764 | calcajun Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:58:44am |
re: #750 opnion
Racism has an element of superiority whil bigotry has malice.
I have to be honest, I just looked it up.
And that's fine and you've highlighted why I have an issue with the word; no is clear on the definition as it has become very subjective. A lot of people were castigated for saying it, but there is an element of truth to saying that "you know racism when you see it". We're all going to be struck differently by certain things depending on the sum of our experiences.
Anyway-- I gotta go to the office. On a Saturday. and I'll have to do it tomorrow, too. Sigh.
765 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 8:59:21am |
re: #760 Dustoff-507
Ok folks.
I'm out of here. House to clean, truck to wash and yep, grass to cut.
So much for my day off.
Hey, while got the mower out swing by and get mine will ya?
Have a good day!
766 | Throbert McGee Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:01:00am |
Um, apologies if anyone has already posted this, but...
Chris Rock presents: How to Not Get Your Ass Kicked By the Police
(Put aside all beverages while viewing, and also send tots out of the room, as language is a bit salty.)
767 | poteen Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:01:15am |
Maybe why Gates wasn't happy to see the cops.
768 | calcajun Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:01:23am |
re: #753 yma o hyd
Hiya, Lizard Nation!
Sad news:
WWI veteran Patch dies aged 111From that link:
'The last British survivor of the World War I trenches, Harry Patch, has died at the age of 111.Mr Patch was conscripted into the Army aged 18 and fought in the Battle of Passchendaele at Ypres in 1917 in which more than 70,000 British soldiers died. '
Now there are no surviving veterans of WWI in Great Britain ...
This is so sad, following so quickly after the death of Henry Allingham, 113, one of the first members of the RAF ...
Very sad. Very soon, there will be no living memory of that calamity.
The only solace is that soon, historians will be able to place that era into historical context.
769 | yma o hyd Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:01:55am |
re: #756 Dustoff-507
WOW... and our WWII are fading fast.
Seeing this was a real shock, so closely following on the death of Henry alingham.
Yes, our WWII vets are in their eighties now, and there are not many who will make it to next year's ceremonies.
Thats why everybody was and is so angry about Gord's dreadful treatment of them for this year's 65th Jubilee.
770 | Pianobuff Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:02:31am |
Looks like I wasn't paying attention to other news in the last few days.
Anyone familiar with this?
Would it be overly pessimistic from HC's remarks to conclude that the US is essentially and officially conceding nukes to Iran?
Tell me it ain't so.
771 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:02:35am |
The return of St. Pancake...
Documentary sparks uproar at Jewish film fest
The San Francisco Jewish Film Festival has come under siege after deciding to show a documentary about Rachel Corrie, a Washington state 23-year-old killed in 2003 while trying to prevent an Israeli military bulldozer from demolishing a Palestinian's home.
...
The reaction has been outrage. The festival board's president stepped down from her role, opening-night ceremonies were boycotted by some, and Israel Consul General Akiva Tor said it was a "big mistake to invite Mrs. Corrie."At the core of the debate are questions about how broadly Jews can discuss Israel within their own community - and how Jews represent Israel to the broader world. It is also overlaid with accusations of the "new anti-Semitism," prejudice that is disguised as particular criticisms of Israel, the only Jewish state.
772 | mj Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:02:44am |
Fla. gov's office mistakenly praises Nazi film
ALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Despite the content of a letter bearing his signature, Gov. Charlie Crist does not want to share an anti-Semitic movie with all Floridians.
Crist's office sent a letter thanking John Ubele for providing the governor with a copy of the film "Jud Suss." The film is recognized as one of history's most incendiary...
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
773 | rightymouse Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:03:04am |
re: #729 Sharmuta
Obama hawks health care overhaul, citing study
Small businesses that don't provide insurance because they can't afford it are going to be forced to pick up this expense, I assume? That will cost more jobs and hurt earnings. What a boom for the economy that will be.
Medical insurance is part of the problem with our health care costs because it really is not helpful in keeping the market competitive. If hospitals or doctors had to truly compete in a free market order, I suspect you'd see the costs go down to what the market (consumers) could bear.
And we need tort reform so that liability insurance isn't so ghastly expensive.
774 | midwestgak Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:04:22am |
re: #769 yma o hyd
Seeing this was a real shock, so closely following on the death of Henry alingham.
Yes, our WWII vets are in their eighties now, and there are not many who will make it to next year's ceremonies.
Thats why everybody was and is so angry about Gord's dreadful treatment of them for this year's 65th Jubilee.
The last WWI vet died in England today at the age of 111.
776 | Henchman Ghazi-808 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:07:04am |
I just saw a picture of Gates during the incident on the front porch of his house: there is an officer to the side/just behind him holding a camcorder, likely recording the whole deal.
I just reread Obama's 'apology.' He apologized for his choice of words, not for what he actually said. He said he 'didn't mean to malign the Cambridge Police department or Off. Crowley.'
"No. 2, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home.
It's clear he meant to and did malign both Cambridge PD and Crowley. He probably doesn't think he's lying either.
777 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:07:45am |
re: #753 yma o hyd
Hiya, Lizard Nation!
Sad news:
WWI veteran Patch dies aged 111From that link:
'The last British survivor of the World War I trenches, Harry Patch, has died at the age of 111.Mr Patch was conscripted into the Army aged 18 and fought in the Battle of Passchendaele at Ypres in 1917 in which more than 70,000 British soldiers died. '
Now there are no surviving veterans of WWI in Great Britain ...
This is so sad, following so quickly after the death of Henry Allingham, 113, one of the first members of the RAF ...
Dire Straights' use of WWI imagery in their video for Brothers in Arms makes its use especially appropriate here:
778 | yma o hyd Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:07:52am |
re: #759 FrogMarch
Hilarious, indeed. and insightful.
Here's an editorial in today's TIMES/London:
No Excuses! No Excuses!
President Obama’s worst week so far may reveal his party’s poverty of ideas
From that link:
'President Obama has by no means undone all this good work with one ill-conceived remark. But for a politician as adept as he is, it was a serious mistake. It is axiomatic as a politician that you do not respond to detailed cases. But, more than that, Obama’s response — that the incident recalled the history of police prejudice against black people — seemed to contradict his message of unity. The rapidity with which the President, in an unguarded moment, sought to make that connection seemed to open a gap between what he usually says and what he really thinks.
This has capped the worst week of the Obama presidency so far.'
(My emphasis)
779 | VegasRick Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:09:35am |
re: #778 yma o hyd
Here's an editorial in today's TIMES/London:
No Excuses! No Excuses!
President Obama’s worst week so far may reveal his party’s poverty of ideasFrom that link:
'President Obama has by no means undone all this good work with one ill-conceived remark. But for a politician as adept as he is, it was a serious mistake. It is axiomatic as a politician that you do not respond to detailed cases. But, more than that, Obama’s response — that the incident recalled the history of police prejudice against black people — seemed to contradict his message of unity. The rapidity with which the President, in an unguarded moment, sought to make that connection seemed to open a gap between what he usually says and what he really thinks.
This has capped the worst week of the Obama presidency so far.'(My emphasis)
Good find! And the writter is 100% correct.
780 | Irish Rose Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:09:57am |
Good afternoon, lizards.
The last few days have been pretty rough.
May I be the first to say that I hope Charles goes for a long, relaxing bike ride this afternoon and leaves Stinky in charge.
781 | yma o hyd Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:11:23am |
re: #768 calcajun
Very sad. Very soon, there will be no living memory of that calamity.
The only solace is that soon, historians will be able to place that era into historical context.
Historians have been working on WWI for some time now.
Its the original voices which I find more riveting nowadays.
I hope that at least some historians are now starting to talk to the WWII vets, of whom there soon won't be that many left either ...
782 | yma o hyd Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:13:04am |
re: #774 midwestgak
The last WWI vet died in England today at the age of 111.
Yes - I know - I put it in the spin-off links.
Its a shock, so soon after the death of Henry Allingham, at 113, one of the first RAF members ...
784 | 1SG(ret) Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:13:23am |
Gates: This sort of thing isn't supposed to happen in the north. All the south ever hears is how advanced the north is on race relations. It's the south that has the problem!
//
Brother Patch: Old soldiers never die, they just fade away! We choose to remember their sacrifices/gifts to our societies or forget and truly dishonor them! I choose to remember!
785 | VegasRick Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:14:00am |
786 | Ojoe Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:14:13am |
re: #779 VegasRick
To Obama, I am just a "typical white person."
I have never been so pissed off at the government & political parties as I am now.
787 | yma o hyd Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:14:57am |
re: #780 Irish Rose
Good afternoon, lizards.
The last few days have been pretty rough.
May I be the first to say that I hope Charles goes for a long, relaxing bike ride this afternoon and leaves Stinky in charge.
Hiya, {Irish Rose}!
Have there been even more meltdowns yesterday? On top of those from day before yesterday?
... and how are you?
789 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:17:14am |
re: #768 calcajun
Very sad. Very soon, there will be no living memory of that calamity.
The only solace is that soon, historians will be able to place that era into historical context.
A good history of the lead up to the War to End all Wars, focusing on the Naval arms race.
Dreadnought
by Robert K. Massie
790 | Ojoe Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:17:25am |
There were Civil War vets surviving into the 1930s.
791 | VegasRick Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:17:32am |
re: #786 Ojoe
To Obama, I am just a "typical white person."
I have never been so pissed off at the government & political parties as I am now.
I'm with you. I keep asking if we just elected the first Black American President or the first President of Black America. I'm pretty sure I know the answer.
793 | Ojoe Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:18:33am |
re: #789 jcm
"The Guns of August" by Tuchman is a very good book on the lead up & first months of WW1 also.
794 | yma o hyd Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:18:45am |
I've come across this piece of news, in today's TIMES/London:
'
MY PROFILE SHOP JOBS PROPERTY CLASSIFIEDS
From The Times
July 25, 2009
Mathematicians would wrestle with 1 + 1+ 1= 1
Creationism and history add up to a very bad mix
Natalie Haynes
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The battle lines have been drawn in Texas. First the Religious Right tried to force Christianity, or its rather warped view of it, into biology lessons. The US courts have now limited the extent to which creationism can masquerade as science in schools, but this has merely redirected the attention of the loony-tunes evangelists to the rest of the curriculum. Their new target is history.
A panel of experts has been appointed by the state’s education board, to revise the history curriculum. According to one of the panel, the curriculum should reflect the fact that the US Constitution was written with God in mind, and “government exists primarily to protect God-given rights to every individual”.
His fellow panellist is the Rev Peter Marshall, a man who preaches that Hurricane Katrina was God’s punishment for sexual promiscuity and tolerance of homosexuals. I suppose Texan schoolchildren should consider themselves lucky that he isn’t revising the meteorology curriculum as well.'
Please please tell me she's exaggerating!
I just cannot believe that tehse crazy fundamentalists are getting free rein to mess about even more with childrens' education!
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]
795 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:19:17am |
re: #789 jcm
A good history of the lead up to the War to End all Wars, focusing on the Naval arms race.
Dreadnought
by Robert K. Massie
Also read Castles of Steel Massie's sequel, which covers WWI at sea. Both are great reads.
796 | callahan23 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:19:31am |
re: #787 yma o hyd
Have there been even more meltdowns yesterday? On top of those from day before yesterday?
'Iron Fist' got the stick.
797 | Desert Dog Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:19:59am |
798 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:20:09am |
re: #790 Ojoe
There were Civil War vets surviving into the 1930s.
And the last Civil War widow died just recently, in 2003.
799 | midwestgak Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:20:22am |
800 | KenJen Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:20:31am |
801 | VegasRick Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:20:44am |
802 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:20:46am |
803 | Pianobuff Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:21:00am |
The press conference doesn't appear to be a winner.
Obama below 50% approval for 2nd day in a row.
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows that 30% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-nine percent (39%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -9. (see trends).
The number who Strongly Disapprove of the President has increased slightly following the prime time press conference on Wednesday night. That figure—39%--is now at the highest level yet recorded. As a result, the overall Approval Index has fallen to the lowest level yet recorded for this President.
Overall, 49% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President's performance. This is the second straight day that his overall approval rating has been below 50% among Likely Voters nationwide. Fifty-one percent (51%) disapprove. See recent demographic highlights from the Presidential Tracking Poll. For more measures of the President’s performance, see Obama By the Numbers.
It is important to remember that the Rasmussen Reports job approval ratings are based upon a sample of likely voters. Some other firms base their approval ratings on samples of all adults. President Obama’s numbers are always several points higher in a poll of adults rather than likely voters. That’s because some of the President’s most enthusiastic supporters, such as young adults, are less likely to turn out to vote.
804 | yma o hyd Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:21:04am |
re: #790 Ojoe
There were Civil War vets surviving into the 1930s.
There are still three survivors:
VERIFIED WWI VETERANS
John Babcock, Canadian, 109
Frank Buckles, American, 108
Claude Choules, British, 108
(Claude Choules lives in Australia)
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
Treasure them - our last links to a truly historical event which changed the world.
805 | Kenneth Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:21:54am |
re: #637 MandyManners
Did you notice how he said "my house"?
It's mine, mine, mine, all mine! I won! Me!
It's the narcissism, dude.
806 | yma o hyd Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:22:00am |
807 | Desert Dog Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:22:44am |
808 | yma o hyd Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:23:41am |
809 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:24:17am |
re: #799 midwestgak
WHAT? Why? vaguely.
Downstairs, in the "Tea Party/Racist" thread.
He pretty much begged for it. Several other posters warned him to tone things down, and Charles gave him several chances to simply shut up. All were ignored.
Charles then flushed out several sock puppets owned by the same poster, after the ban stick came down. Which pretty much cements things.
810 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:24:25am |
Charles said that Iron Fist had seven socks.
811 | Desert Dog Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:24:47am |
re: #804 yma o hyd
There are still three survivors:
VERIFIED WWI VETERANS
John Babcock, Canadian, 109
Frank Buckles, American, 108
Claude Choules, British, 108
(Claude Choules lives in Australia)[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
Treasure them - our last links to a truly historical event which changed the world.
I had a chance to walk around the battlefields at Verdun and on the Somme. The trenches are still there...it is amazing how the "no-man's land" is still barren, even after all these years. I can only imagine what that was like...horrible.
812 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:25:00am |
re: #799 midwestgak
WHAT? Why? vaguely.
He defended the racist photoshop. Said the bone-through-the-nose was "just another piercing" to which Charles replied "Just another blocked account". Charles then went digging and blocked no fewer than 7 sockpuppets that Iron Fist had set up.
813 | itellu3times Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:25:16am |
re: #669 Truck Monkey
It is all bullshit. Officer Crowley was just doing his job. I can't wait until the tapes are released. We will see what as asswipe Gates was. Please release the tape soon. If Gates had any shame he would want this whole thing to go away.
Gates has no shame, he's been a public asshole for thirty years. I'm sure whatever transpired at his house the other day, he's been more offensive fifty times on interview shows.
814 | Desert Dog Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:25:18am |
815 | Macker Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:25:35am |
re: #810 MandyManners
Charles said that Iron Fist had seven socks.
Four complete pairs. Imagine that.
816 | callahan23 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:25:38am |
re: #799 midwestgak
WHAT? Why? vaguely.
Yep he is history, he was warned by a plethora of Lizards not to continue in this vein (racist apologizing) but he wouldn't let go. Happened in the "Tea Party Leader Backs Racist Doc" thread. Here is his latest profile/stats:
Iron Fist
This user is blocked.
Karma: 19,807
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No. of comments posted: 29,765
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817 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:25:46am |
re: #805 Kenneth
It's mine, mine, mine, all mine! I won! Me!
It's the narcissism, dude.
I wonder if he will show his narcissistic rage in public.
818 | KenJen Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:26:34am |
819 | LGoPs Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:26:37am |
re: #803 Pianobuff
The press conference doesn't appear to be a winner.
Obama below 50% approval for 2nd day in a row.
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows that 30% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-nine percent (39%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -9. (see trends).
The number who Strongly Disapprove of the President has increased slightly following the prime time press conference on Wednesday night. That figure—39%--is now at the highest level yet recorded. As a result, the overall Approval Index has fallen to the lowest level yet recorded for this President.
Overall, 49% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President's performance. This is the second straight day that his overall approval rating has been below 50% among Likely Voters nationwide. Fifty-one percent (51%) disapprove. See recent demographic highlights from the Presidential Tracking Poll. For more measures of the President’s performance, see Obama By the Numbers.
It is important to remember that the Rasmussen Reports job approval ratings are based upon a sample of likely voters. Some other firms base their approval ratings on samples of all adults. President Obama’s numbers are always several points higher in a poll of adults rather than likely voters. That’s because some of the President’s most enthusiastic supporters, such as young adults, are less likely to turn out to vote.
My prediction of how the MFM will play this:
As long as Obama is above 50% approval, even if it is only 50.000000001% they will use it as proof of a 'mandate' to support any hard core radical leftist batshit crazy thing he wants to push.
If Obama falls below 50% they will simply stop referring to polls and still support any hard core radical leftist batshit crazy thing he wants to push.
820 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:27:05am |
821 | Macker Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:27:13am |
re: #817 MandyManners
It will be at that moment that he will have destroyed his Presidency. No one will take him seriously at that point. Not even Joe The Biden™.
822 | Desert Dog Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:27:18am |
re: #817 MandyManners
I wonder if he will show his narcissistic rage in public.
He seems like more of a seether than a rager...it's the quiet calm ones you have to watch out for...the emotional ones let you know what they are thinking. The cold calculating ones keep it shut until it's too late.
824 | Kenneth Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:28:11am |
re: #793 Ojoe
The First World War by John Keegan provides an excellent overview of the whole war, in all the various fronts. Interesting little details such as why the Italians suffered so many more eye injuries: the rocky mountains of the Tyrollian Alps offered nowhere to dig trenches ans so they built walls of stone. The Austrial artillery shells sent shards of stone flying, blinding thousands of Italians.
825 | JHW Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:28:12am |
re: #790 Ojoe
There were Civil War vets surviving into the 1930s.
My dad's grandfather, 10th Michigan Cavalry, lived till 1932, a young man on a motorcycle hit and killed him in a crosswalk.
826 | yma o hyd Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:28:17am |
re: #810 MandyManners
Charles said that Iron Fist had seven socks.
Blydi heck - thats un-effen-believable!
827 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:28:23am |
re: #821 Macker
It will be at that moment that he will have destroyed his Presidency. No one will take him seriously at that point. Not even Joe The Biden™.
Remember when he got pissy with that reporter and it was taped? I have the link somewhere...
828 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:28:59am |
re: #822 Desert Dog
He seems like more of a seether than a rager...it's the quiet calm ones you have to watch out for...the emotional ones let you know what they are thinking. The cold calculating ones keep it shut until it's too late.
A narcissist cannot help but "share" his pique.
829 | Macker Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:29:43am |
Charles: Just out of curiosity, who holds the record for the Most Sock Puppets?
830 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:29:55am |
re: #819 LGoPs
My prediction of how the MFM will play this:
As long as Obama is above 50% approval, even if it is only 50.000000001% they will use it as proof of a 'mandate' to support any hard core radical leftist batshit crazy thing he wants to push.
If Obama falls below 50% they will simply stop referring to polls and still support any hard core radical leftist batshit crazy thing he wants to push.
Maybe. Certainly, they'll keep this up longer than they would for a Conservative President.
But they're profit driven, and once their viewership/readership swings over to the "no support" column in what looks like a permanent shift, they'll happily jump on that bandwagon in order to keep their ratings up.
Could take a while for that to happen, though.
831 | _RememberTonyC Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:30:04am |
832 | yma o hyd Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:30:07am |
re: #811 Desert Dog
I had a chance to walk around the battlefields at Verdun and on the Somme. The trenches are still there...it is amazing how the "no-man's land" is still barren, even after all these years. I can only imagine what that was like...horrible.
Thats one of the things I want to do - visit the battlefields.
Can't go anywhere because of Madame Dog, it would break ehr heart if I had to leave her with somebody else.
But one day, I will indeed go there.
And Normandy ...
833 | LGoPs Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:30:31am |
re: #660 jcm
Please explain the racal profiling...
Cops get a break in call.
Cops arrive find individual in house in question.Asking that individual for ID is racial profiling?
The cops are guilty of not being able to mind read.///
Guess I can't be a cop cause I flunked mind reading in school.
/
834 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:31:06am |
re: #824 Kenneth
The First World War by John Keegan provides an excellent overview of the whole war, in all the various fronts. Interesting little details such as why the Italians suffered so many more eye injuries: the rocky mountains of the Tyrollian Alps offered nowhere to dig trenches ans so they built walls of stone. The Austrial artillery shells sent shards of stone flying, blinding thousands of Italians.
Indeed, that's a great book by a great author. I bought and read it as well.
835 | VegasRick Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:31:16am |
836 | midwestgak Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:31:17am |
re: #812 Dark_Falcon
He defended the racist photoshop. Said the bone-through-the-nose was "just another piercing" to which Charles replied "Just another blocked account". Charles then went digging and blocked no fewer than 7 sockpuppets that Iron Fist had set up.
I wonder what comments were posted under them. And I wonder if I responded to any of them. 8 nics altogether. Why am I reminded of Sybil?
837 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:31:39am |
I've got to go eat and then work. Later, all.
839 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:33:14am |
re: #811 Desert Dog
I had a chance to walk around the battlefields at Verdun and on the Somme. The trenches are still there...it is amazing how the "no-man's land" is still barren, even after all these years. I can only imagine what that was like...horrible.
WWI ordnance is still dug up every year by French farmers, they have special teams task to disposing of ordnance from both wars.
840 | That's Mr. President to you Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:33:15am |
"Now I know there are those who are urging us to delay reform. And some of them have actually admitted that this is a tactic designed to stop any reform at all. Some have even suggested that, regardless of its merits, health care reform should be stopped as a way to inflict political damage on my Administration. I’ll leave it to them to explain that to the American people. "
[Link: www.pww.org...]
[I don't even have to try anymore. He uses strawmen to paint a picture where the worst consequence of failed health care reform is damage to his administration. This guy just mocks himself.]
841 | midwestgak Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:33:25am |
re: #816 callahan23
I imagine Iron Fist is punching the walls now.
842 | Desert Dog Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:33:37am |
re: #832 yma o hyd
Thats one of the things I want to do - visit the battlefields.
Can't go anywhere because of Madame Dog, it would break ehr heart if I had to leave her with somebody else.But one day, I will indeed go there.
And Normandy ...
That's one of my hobbies. I've been to quite a few. Hastings, Normandy, Verdun, the Somme, Antietam, Gettysburg, Little Big Horn. I have dragged Mrs. Desert Dog and the three pups to many a far off places. They grumble about it, but thank me later.
843 | mj Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:33:57am |
844 | Macker Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:34:12am |
re: #833 LGoPs
The cops are guilty of not being able to mind read.///
Guess I can't be a cop cause I flunked mind reading in school.
/
That's OK Johnny...they'll take care of it from here!
845 | VegasRick Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:35:02am |
846 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:35:10am |
re: #840 That's Mr. President to you
How ya' doing, ya' fucking narcissist?!
847 | Desert Dog Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:35:26am |
re: #839 jcm
The shear destruction, even almost 100 years later, shows how horrific that war was. On the western front, at least
848 | LGoPs Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:35:28am |
re: #830 SixDegrees
Maybe. Certainly, they'll keep this up longer than they would for a Conservative President.
But they're profit driven, and once their viewership/readership swings over to the "no support" column in what looks like a permanent shift, they'll happily jump on that bandwagon in order to keep their ratings up.
Could take a while for that to happen, though.
I sure hope so but I have my doubts. Falling profits hasn't changed the mindset of many of the failing newspapers in the country. NYT for example.
Alos, I've personally experienced booksellers 'hiding' best selling conservative books. Ideaology seeming to trump the profit motive. I realize that they're not the media but the mindset seems to be a common one.
If there is any hint of stimulus money going to prop up failing media establishments then we'll know for sure that Pravda has arrived.
849 | calcajun Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:35:35am |
re: #781 yma o hyd
Historians have been working on WWI for some time now.
Its the original voices which I find more riveting nowadays.I hope that at least some historians are now starting to talk to the WWII vets, of whom there soon won't be that many left either ...
The general view among historians is that a century must pass before an event can be placed into proper historical context-- and WWI is no exception.
But, the sense I have from talking with friends from the UK is that war made a wound on your national psyche that has yet to heal. One of the most touching moments for me came from an unexpected source --Blackadder. The end of the fourth series was sudden and abrupt, but yet very poignant.
850 | callahan23 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:36:37am |
re: #801 VegasRick
Yep. Nevergiveup as well.
But he didn't get the stick for the same reason that so many others got banned for.
He was continuing his heckling of K.T. across many threads.
851 | calcajun Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:36:37am |
re: #811 Desert Dog
I had a chance to walk around the battlefields at Verdun and on the Somme. The trenches are still there...it is amazing how the "no-man's land" is still barren, even after all these years. I can only imagine what that was like...horrible.
The shells are still there, too. Every year a few more percolate to the surface and the French bomb squads have to come and defuse them.
852 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:37:16am |
re: #848 LGoPs
I sure hope so but I have my doubts. Falling profits hasn't changed the mindset of many of the failing newspapers in the country. NYT for example.
Alos, I've personally experienced booksellers 'hiding' best selling conservative books. Ideaology seeming to trump the profit motive. I realize that they're not the media but the mindset seems to be a common one.
If there is any hint of stimulus money going to prop up failing media establishments then we'll know for sure that Pravda has arrived.
I've read several links discussing this over the past six months.
853 | Irish Rose Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:38:05am |
Still no apology from Gates the raging bigot, I see... and now he's suggesting that everyone "move on and put it all behind them" to make sure that the white officer doesn't get one.
Gates certainly does fit the profile of a serial bully.
Gates is a lifelong black activist who made his way to the top via AA and the NAACP. He's probably been pulling this shit all of his adult life, badgering innocent people with false accusations of racism, police brutality, and profiling and shooting his mouth off for the publicity. Instead of being held accountable, he gets a visit to the white house to have lunch with the President and rub it into officer Crowleys' face a little bit more.
You'll never see a direct apology from this man, ever.
He could care less if the life and reputation of an innocent and dedicated police officer is trashed, a police officer who was simply trying to protect Gates' home and property.
Pathetic.
854 | callahan23 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:38:10am |
re: #841 midwestgak
I imagine Iron Fist is punching the walls now.
I guess he is perforating the walls with a 12 gauge.
855 | LGoPs Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:38:42am |
re: #840 That's Mr. President to you
"Now I know there are those who are urging us to delay reform. And some of them have actually admitted that this is a tactic designed to stop any reform at all. Some have even suggested that, regardless of its merits, health care reform should be stopped as a way to inflict political damage on my Administration. I’ll leave it to them to explain that to the American people. "
[Link: www.pww.org...]
[I don't even have to try anymore. He uses strawmen to paint a picture where the worst consequence of failed health care reform is damage to his administration. This guy just mocks himself.]
I gotta admit that when I read your comments, I hear them in Obama's voice. That imperious tone that just grates the shit out of me...
Not your fault of course.
:)
856 | yma o hyd Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:39:21am |
re: #842 Desert Dog
That's one of my hobbies. I've been to quite a few. Hastings, Normandy, Verdun, the Somme, Antietam, Gettysburg, Little Big Horn. I have dragged Mrs. Desert Dog and the three pups to many a far off places. They grumble about it, but thank me later.
We've been to Hastings, or Battle, as the actual place is called.
That was B.D. ('Before Dogs').
Hugely impressive.
857 | calcajun Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:39:21am |
re: #832 yma o hyd
Thats one of the things I want to do - visit the battlefields.
Can't go anywhere because of Madame Dog, it would break ehr heart if I had to leave her with somebody else.But one day, I will indeed go there.
And Normandy ...
Had a friend who went and looked over the cliff at Point d'Hoc. He broke down crying, amazed at the fact that men scaled that wall under fire and knocked out the guns. That Ranger unit took 50% casualties in two day's fighting.
859 | calcajun Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:40:10am |
re: #854 callahan23
No, he's probably trying to mend fences...or is making some more sock puppets.
860 | wahabicorridor Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:40:21am |
re: #842 Desert Dog
That's one of my hobbies. I've been to quite a few. Hastings, Normandy, Verdun, the Somme, Antietam, Gettysburg, Little Big Horn. I have dragged Mrs. Desert Dog and the three pups to many a far off places. They grumble about it, but thank me later.
Hubby and I were married at Antietam. By Burnside Bridge, by the creek, Confederate side. We had quite an audience of canoers.
861 | yma o hyd Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:40:47am |
re: #843 mj
What happened to nevergiveup?
I don't know what really went on, as it happend at a time when i was soundly asleep!
But from what i understand, he was snarky about KT, and didn't stop in spite of Charles asking him to desist.
862 | Desert Dog Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:41:00am |
re: #849 calcajun
The general view among historians is that a century must pass before an event can be placed into proper historical context-- and WWI is no exception.
But, the sense I have from talking with friends from the UK is that war made a wound on your national psyche that has yet to heal. One of the most touching moments for me came from an unexpected source --Blackadder. The end of the fourth series was sudden and abrupt, but yet very poignant.
When I lived in the UK in the 80's, I noticed that every little town had a WWI Monument. Not many WWII though. I asked a guy in York why there are so many WWI monuments. He told me that each town and village used to raise a regiment. All the young men from one town fought together. In WWI, if you got the call and whistle to go over the top, in some instances 50% of the guys would not make it back. So, when battles like the Marne and Somme took place. Entire blocks of young men from one town would be killed off. An entire generation was wiped out for some towns. The Brits learned a lesson that the USA learned in the Civil War. After WWI, they still kept the regional flavor for each army, but mixed them up so what happened in WWI would never happen again.
863 | Desert Dog Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:41:39am |
re: #860 wahabicorridor
Hubby and I were married at Antietam. By Burnside Bridge, by the creek, Confederate side. We had quite an audience of canoers.
Very cool
864 | calcajun Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:42:05am |
re: #834 Dark_Falcon
I read it too. The aspect which amazed me was the concept of mobilization back then--a bit like our modern nuclear arsenal --once the order was given, there was no calling it back.
865 | midwestgak Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:45:26am |
re: #859 calcajun
No, he's probably trying to mend fences...or is making some more sock puppets.
When was the date of the last open registration? I really like being logged on when it is open. Welcoming the newbies and all.
866 | callahan23 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:45:39am |
re: #859 calcajun
No, he's probably trying to mend fences...or is making some more sock puppets.
Mending fences will be quite difficult considering Charles' response.
867 | JHW Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:47:02am |
Verdun Today Photos, the terrain is still tortured. In photo 13, the ossuary, contains the bones of 130,000 unknown French soldiers from the battle. I hate French coward soldier "jokes", I can't find it right now, but one WW1 site has a photo of a bearded, weary French soldier staring with that thousand-yard-stare at the torso of a comrade beside him in the trenches. The rifle was still grasped by the remains.
868 | Pianobuff Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:47:13am |
re: #819 LGoPs
My prediction of how the MFM will play this:
As long as Obama is above 50% approval, even if it is only 50.000000001% they will use it as proof of a 'mandate' to support any hard core radical leftist batshit crazy thing he wants to push.
If Obama falls below 50% they will simply stop referring to polls and still support any hard core radical leftist batshit crazy thing he wants to push.
Perhaps.
Here are some other interesting numbers:
Forty percent (40%) of U.S. voters say President Obama – just six months into his presidency – has held too many televised press conferences. But 47% say the president has had about the right number of them.A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that only eight percent (8%) say Obama has not held enough press conferences so far.
Who in God's name thinks that O has not held enough press conferences?
There's also this:
The health care reform legislation working its way through Congress has lost support over the past month. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 44% of U.S. voters are at least somewhat in favor of the reform effort while 53% are at least somewhat opposed.Today’s 44% level of support is down from 46% two weeks ago, and 50% in late June.
Opposition has grown from 45% in late June to 49% two weeks ago and 53% today.
And this which is perhaps the most intriguing to me, since I haven't seen many polls on this topic...
Forty-six percent (46%) of Americans say they still consider network television news programs a more reliable source of news than the Internet.But a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 35% say the Internet is a more reliable news source than network TV news shows. Nearly one-out-of-five adults (19%) are not sure which they trust more.
Women find network television news to be more reliable, while men are almost evenly divided on the question.
Republicans and adults not affiliated with either major political party view the Internet and television news as virtually equal in terms of reliability. Democrats, on the other hand, favor TV news by a nearly two-to-one margin.
870 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:49:37am |
re: #867 JHW
In Flanders Fields
By: Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae, MD (1872-1918)
Canadian Army
In Flanders Fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
872 | JustMyView Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:51:54am |
re: #730 SixDegrees
I guess I should qualify: that's what's being bandied about at the moment. It may be no more than rumors. But several sources have said the police have tapes of everything from the neighbor's call to conversations in the patrol cars to audio of the incident itself (and possibly video?). It does, however, remain to be seen whether any of this is true.
Gate's reluctance to bring suit strongly suggests that uncertainty is not working in their favor.
Seems to me it's in the same category as the dropped charges. That doesn't exactly suggest a strong case either.
873 | Throbert McGee Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:55:04am |
[wheezing]
Just watched the Chris Rock video for the 4th time, and can't decide what cracks me up more -- "He got weed, he got weed!" or "Remind your friend to do this one thing: Shut the FUCK up."
874 | chedgeman Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:55:29am |
re: #673 jcm
Why isn't Gates suing or at least calling for the tapes to be released?
875 | JHW Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:56:57am |
re: #869 wahabicorridor
You might be interested in this one also, it's quite a legendary event in French military history, the"Bayonet Trench" at Verdun (google has a lot of sites on it), where a unit of French soldiers held their ground to the bitter end, their bayonets are still poking above the ground in an upright position (or at least they were till recently, ghouls have been stealing the bayonets as relics).
Bayonet Trench...Verdun, photo
876 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:58:20am |
re: #872 JustMyView
Seems to me it's in the same category as the dropped charges. That doesn't exactly suggest a strong case either.
It's a minor charge, at best. It isn't at all unusual to drop such charges when even a whiff of bigotry is brought into play. The other way 'round, not so much.
877 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:59:14am |
re: #874 chedgeman
Why isn't Gates suing or at least calling for the tapes to be released?
Most likely because that would force the truth out into a public forum.
878 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:59:14am |
re: #874 chedgeman
Why isn't Gates suing or at least calling for the tapes to be released?
My guess?
They back Sgt. Crowley's version.
But you knew that...
879 | MJ Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:59:52am |
re: #861 yma o hyd
I don't know what really went on, as it happend at a time when i was soundly asleep!
But from what i understand, he was snarky about KT, and didn't stop in spite of Charles asking him to desist.
Thanks!
880 | JustMyView Sat, Jul 25, 2009 9:59:59am |
re: #840 That's Mr. President to you
"Now I know there are those who are urging us to delay reform. And some of them have actually admitted that this is a tactic designed to stop any reform at all. Some have even suggested that, regardless of its merits, health care reform should be stopped as a way to inflict political damage on my Administration. I’ll leave it to them to explain that to the American people. "
[Link: www.pww.org...]
[I don't even have to try anymore. He uses strawmen to paint a picture where the worst consequence of failed health care reform is damage to his administration. This guy just mocks himself.]
You may have misunderstood. He isn't saying that the worst consequence of failing to reform health care would be the failure of health care reform. He's saying that his opponents are willing to oppose what he sees as needed reforms to destroy his administration.
881 | jcm Sat, Jul 25, 2009 10:00:59am |
re: #875 JHW
You might be interested in this one also, it's quite a legendary event in French military history, the"Bayonet Trench" at Verdun (google has a lot of sites on it), where a unit of French soldiers held their ground to the bitter end, their bayonets are still poking above the ground in an upright position (or at least they were till recently, ghouls have been stealing the bayonets as relics).
Bayonet Trench...Verdun, photo
Sadly souvenir hunters have removed all but one bayonet.
Bastards, that is scared ground.
What I think should be done with them is a bannable offense...
882 | JHW Sat, Jul 25, 2009 10:05:47am |
re: #881 jcm
I wholeheartedly agree with you, these were our Allies and they died in incomprehensible numbers in the cause of liberty.
A better series of photos of the "Tranchee des Baionettes", quite a solomn spot. Bayonet Trench Monument, Verdun
884 | JHW Sat, Jul 25, 2009 10:10:12am |
re: #883 wahabicorridor
Thanks wahabi, I respect those soldiers and I always remember a saying attributable to Napoleon "There are no bad soldiers, only bad commanders", I just hate it when people sneer at these mens' sacrifice, it wasn't their fault they were miserably mislead by politicians in two world wars.
885 | dwells38 Sat, Jul 25, 2009 10:11:57am |
re: #852 MandyManners
Wouldn't be surprising with this kind of crap going on: The Media Elite's Secret Dinners
886 | wahabicorridor Sat, Jul 25, 2009 10:12:45am |
re: #884 JHW
Thanks wahabi, I respect those soldiers and I always remember a saying attributable to Napoleon "There are no bad soldiers, only bad commanders", I just hate it when people sneer at these mens' sacrifice, it wasn't their fault they were miserably mislead by politicians in two world wars.
not to mention some really appalling generals.
I have no truck with the French - one of the great pleasures of my life is laughing at them and their pretensions. But something I think most people don't understand about their surrender in WW II is that a HUGE contributing factor was the demographic catastrophe they suffered in WW I.
887 | UncleRancher Sat, Jul 25, 2009 10:20:39am |
re: #692 Son of the Black Dog
That's fine, and I gave you an up-ding. However, a catastrophic expense insurance policy would still be required. One round of chemotherapy would wipe out most people's savings. And what do you do with someone who develops a chronic disease, say MS?
First, the costs go down by a factor of at least 5 because we unburden the medical system from all the people now in the payment stream, and the lawyers are no longer involved. After that, about 97 percent of the people won't need any catastrophic coverage, and the doctors required pro-bono work takes care of that last 3%. Problem solved.
888 | wahabicorridor Sat, Jul 25, 2009 10:21:47am |
Ok, I'll leave you with the funniest line I've heard in awhile.
Who wants to be in Gordon Brown's Cabinet? That's like being handed a pair of pilot goggles by Emperor Hirohito...
889 | wahabicorridor Sat, Jul 25, 2009 10:23:30am |
re: #887 UncleRancher
First, the costs go down by a factor of at least 5 because we unburden the medical system from all the people now in the payment stream, and the lawyers are no longer involved. After that, about 97 percent of the people won't need any catastrophic coverage, and the doctors required pro-bono work takes care of that last 3%. Problem solved.
Ok, I'll stay just to make this note.
We don't have enough doctors. to go around as it is.
890 | UncleRancher Sat, Jul 25, 2009 10:29:08am |
re: #889 wahabicorridor
Ok, I'll stay just to make this note.
We don't have enough doctors. to go around as it is.
Unless you live in Cicily Alaska you can generally have your choice of at least two doctors. Last time I checked which was a few years ago the US of A had something over half a million MDs. I figure under My System, the usage will go down a bit because people will be Paying For It with Their Own Money. That tends to make people more selective about usage.
891 | BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Jul 25, 2009 10:33:37am |
Dulce Et Decorum Est
Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of disappointed shells that dropped behind.
GAS! Gas! Quick, boys!-- An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
And floundering like a man in fire or lime.--
Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.
In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.
If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,--
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.
Wilfred Owen, 1917