The Door Opens - Update: The Door Closes

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Here’s a midday open thread, with open registration for a limited time. The ‘Register’ link is at the top of the left sidebar.

Read all the rules before you register, and commit them to memory. The short version:

  • Don’t register with a proxy.
  • Don’t register with a throwaway email address.
  • Don’t register more than one account at a time.
  • Don’t be a jerk.
  • Don’t be a troll.
  • Don’t be a sock puppet. Stinky hates sock puppets. He will find you.
  • If you’re registering just to post a dramatic “goodbye cruel world” comment full of insults and drool, don’t waste your time. Nobody’s going to read it. It will be immediately deleted and your account will be blocked.
  • Do play nice.

And then everything will be groovy.

UPDATE at 10/8/09 2:12:44 pm:

The door has creaked shut for another day.

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512 comments
1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:05:49pm

YUMMY!

2 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:06:17pm

Dear Newbies-

Welcome to LGF! If you need something to help break the commenting ice, how about telling us what brought you to LGF? Always an interesting story- from older Lizards too.

Hope you have fun, just remember to play nice.

Sincerely, Sharmuta

3 arethusa  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:08:20pm

re: #1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

YUMMY!

Welcome, newbies! Don't be scared of FBV!

4 McSpiff  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:08:25pm

Woo! Newbies! :D

5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:08:57pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

Dear Newbies-

Welcome to LGF! If you need something to help break the commenting ice, how about telling us what brought you to LGF? Always an interesting story- from older Lizards too.

Well, I was banned from the deuce...So I thought I'd give y'all a try...
/

6 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:09:04pm

Five registrations -- and two sock puppet attempts already.

7 HelloDare  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:09:18pm

There's a rumor that trolls being offed was the inspiration for the movie Zombieland.

8 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:09:23pm

re: #1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

YUMMY!

You gave up vegetarianism?

9 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:09:32pm

They had better show up with a beverage cart.

10 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:10:14pm

Welcome new folks!

We've been remodeling lately. Please do enjoy your stay. Have a bagel!

(We will discuss probes and Zionist paychecks after you have settled in).

11 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:10:16pm

Welcome hatchlings. As Charles said above, play nice.

12 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:10:28pm

re: #8 MandyManners

You gave up vegetarianism?

He eats the socks. Made of cotton.
/

13 Lee Coller  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:10:55pm

re: #8 MandyManners

You gave up vegetarianism?

If we ever see a registration for Fat Bastard Carnivore we'll know.

14 Dante41  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:11:02pm

Woo-hoo! I ain't the new guy no more!

15 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:11:21pm

13 newbies, 3 sock puppet attempts.

16 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:11:22pm

re: #14 Dante41

Woo-hoo! I ain't the new guy no more!

But we are glad to have you.

17 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:11:30pm

re: #6 Charles

Five registrations -- and two sock puppet attempts already.

They never stop attempting, do they?
*sigh*

18 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:11:38pm

re: #8 MandyManners

You imagine them your way, I'll imagine them mine.

19 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:11:38pm

re: #14 Dante41

Woo-hoo! I ain't the new guy no more!

You are until they comment!!!
/

20 arethusa  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:11:39pm

re: #13 Lee Coller

If we ever see a registration for Fat Bastard Carnivore we'll know.

Or perhaps Fat Bastard Carnivore is FBV's evil twin?

21 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:11:44pm

re: #15 Charles

13 newbies, 3 sock puppet attempts.

So that's ten good ones... not a bad ratio.

22 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:11:51pm

Welcome, friends! There's always room for more:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

23 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:12:58pm

re: #12 Cannadian Club Akbar

He eats the socks. Made of cotton.
/

(But only one. Drives 'em crazy!)

24 Dante41  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:13:11pm

re: #19 Cannadian Club Akbar

You are until they comment!!!
/

NEEEIIINNN

25 paint-right  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:13:14pm

I'm here because if Dan Rather. I blame Dan.

26 paint-right  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:13:34pm

of PIMF

27 Lee Coller  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:13:46pm

re: #25 paint-right

I'm here because if Dan Rather. I blame Dan.

If it wasn't for Dan, I probably wouldn't be here either. Seriously.

28 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:14:14pm

Welcome newbies. My favorite beverage is seltzer.

29 Gang of One  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:14:18pm

re: #8 MandyManners

You gave up vegetarianism?

Most trolls can [and should] be classified as vegetable anyway.

30 Taqyia2Me  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:14:27pm

re: #25 paint-right

I'm here because if Dan Rather. I blame Dan.

Sweet!

31 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:14:38pm

I am Ben Hur.

And I will annoy you to death.

32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:14:52pm

re: #27 Lee Coller

Dan and Tammy Bruce.

33 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:14:54pm

re: #28 Alouette

Welcome newbies. My favorite beverage is seltzer.

That's yiddish for "Champagne", for those who don't know.

34 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:15:09pm

re: #25 paint-right

I'm here because if Dan Rather. I blame Dan.

Same here, but I also blame Brit Hume for introducing me to blogs.

Damn those newsmen! ;)

35 Gang of One  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:15:10pm

re: #11 Honorary Yooper

Welcome hatchlings. As Charles said above, play nice.

And avoid, at all costs, geting any sand in Mandy's pants.

36 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:16:09pm

re: #35 Gang of One

And avoid, at all costs, geting any sand in Mandy's pants.

(mutters dirty joke under breath)

37 paint-right  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:16:21pm

re: #34 Sharmuta

a well-balanced duo...opposite sides of a see saw?

38 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:16:40pm

re: #35 Gang of One

And avoid, at all costs, geting any sand in Mandy's pants.

Dagnabit I just spat out a grape.

39 HelloDare  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:17:17pm

Charles,

Watch out for this guy.

40 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:17:23pm

re: #37 paint-right

a well-balanced duo...opposite sides of a see saw?

And now I'm stuck in the middle with you...

Youtube Video
41 Gang of One  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:17:28pm

re: #25 paint-right

I'm here because if Dan Rather. I blame Dan.

Your avatar is a small world ... Steven Wright said he would want to have to paint it ... right/Wright?

42 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:18:01pm

re: #21 LudwigVanQuixote

So that's ten good ones... not a bad ratio.

And I'm still here. Evens out.

43 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:18:08pm

25 newbies, 4 socks.

44 Dante41  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:18:10pm

re: #41 Gang of One

Your avatar is a small world ... Steven Wright said he would want to have to paint it ... right/Wright?

Does this mean he is a secret Sherman-Williams operative?

45 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:18:55pm

re: #40 Sharmuta

And now I'm stuck in the middle with you...


Oh, c'mon!

46 brennant  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:19:04pm

re: #43 Charles

I wonder if you will get a full drawer of socks this time...

47 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:19:17pm

Sure enough, defeatism is now official on the right. Pundit (and birther) Lou Dobbs has this petition on his site:

BRING OUR TROOPS HOME - We, the undersigned citizens of the United States of America, hereby petition the federal government to bring home all of our troops now deployed and stationed throughout the world.

This is being hyped at Free Republic as well.

48 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:19:34pm

re: #43 Charles

25 newbies, 4 socks.

I hope we get 100 newbies.

49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:19:43pm

re: #41 Gang of One

Your avatar is a small world ... Steven Wright said he would want to have to paint it ... right/Wright?

Wrong!

"It's a small world; but I wouldn't want to paint it."
-Steven Wright

50 paint-right  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:19:50pm

Soon after I started reading LGF they had a "talk like a pirate " thread which hooked me ( arrr ) and then the drama of some infighting among veteran posters.

irresistable!

51 Gang of One  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:19:52pm

re: #41 Gang of One

Your avatar is a small world ... Steven Wright said he would want to have to paint it ... right/Wright?

Would not want ...
/the evil PIMF golem put sand in my pants.

52 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:19:54pm

re: #45 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh, c'mon!

Aww- I'm a sucker for the nostalgia.

53 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:20:02pm

Welcome hatchlings!

54 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:20:07pm

re: #42 Walter L. Newton

And I'm still here. Evens out.

Believe it or not, I don't hate you :)

55 HelloDare  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:20:13pm

Lizard birth.

Youtube Video
56 collegeguy85  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:20:32pm

re: #43 Charles

25 newbies, 4 socks.

We're going to need some shoes to put those socks in.

;)

57 Gang of One  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:20:32pm

re: #44 Dante41

Does this mean he is a secret Sherman-Williams operative?

Depends on how much territory he's covered.

58 Dante41  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:20:35pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel

Sure enough, defeatism is now official on the right. Pundit (and birther) Lou Dobbs has this petition on his site:

This is being hyped at Free Republic as well.

What happened to the charges of treason?

59 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:21:29pm

I hope the newbies know how to spell their names. Geez.
/

60 Gang of One  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:22:09pm

I love the smell of new threads, especially when accompanied by a cold, crisp Martini.
/Drink!

61 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:22:36pm

re: #18 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You imagine them your way, I'll imagine them mine.

They're crunchy.

62 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:22:36pm

re: #54 LudwigVanQuixote

Believe it or not, I don't hate you :)

I'm sorry. I wasn't even suggesting that. I was making a little humorous dump on myself by riding on your comment.

63 Gang of One  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:22:44pm

re: #59 Cannadian Club Akbar

I hope the newbies know how to spell their names. Geez.
/

I hope the newbies know how to serve drinks.
/Drink!

64 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:22:44pm

Like many other Western countries, France requires health warnings on tobacco and alcohol and similar labels on processed food containing genetically modified ingredients. France's regulators are also notoriously tough on marketing campaigns that make false product claims. Now some French legislators want to take consumer protection to an unprecedented level, requiring that advertisements, product labels and even campaign posters carry a warning when they feature a photograph that's been digitally enhanced.

The drive against airbrushed photos is being headed by conservative parliamentarian ValÉrie Boyer, who says the widespread use of digital technology to alter images is feeding the public a steady visual diet of falsified people, places and products. This artificial reality leads people to expect perfection from themselves and the world in an impossible way, she says. "When writers take a news item or real event and considerably embellish it, they are required to alert readers by calling the work fiction, a novel or a story based on dramatized facts. Why should it be any different for photographs?" Boyer asks. "Rules on food labeling let consumers know the origins of the contents and the presence of things like additives and preservatives. What's wrong with ... informing them when photographs have also been modified from their original form?"

SNIP

Boyer's effort is not motivated only by a fear that consumers are being taken for a ride. She also feels that the idealized beauty in such photos is giving people false expectations of how the world should look — and how they should look as well. Because digitally enhanced photos are often used in mass-marketing campaigns for everything from soft drinks to luxury cars to travel packages, Boyer says the images are gradually leading to a standardization of what is considered beautiful — and by extension, what isn't.

SNIP


Nanny state!

65 jandz  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:22:55pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

Hi LGF. I registered here a while back but I seldom have much time for commenting. As it's a new registrant thread (and I clearly missed posting in the one made when I joined) I thought I might take this chance to say introduce myself.

To say how I found LGF - I can't recall the exact place anymore to be honest. I know I got linked here by someone that was mad about something Charles said. I also recall them stating that the blog was "anti-Islamic" and "crazy right wing" or some such nonsense. I've not really seen any of that here. I'm not terribly interested in anyone's political leanings anyway. I stayed and eventually registered because I genuinely enjoy reading the content and opinions posted here. I don't agree with everything but most commenters here seem to have the capability of rational discussion.

That said, it's nice to meet you all and I hope to take a more active role in threads moving forward.

Ciao!

66 Dante41  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:24:44pm

re: #64 MandyManners

I don't know, Mandy. That would help people gauge the hotness of women in magazines...
//

re: #65 jandz

JAAA

67 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:24:46pm

re: #65 jandz

Thanks for introducing yourself, and I hope you do start posting more comments and joining us in discussions. The more, the merrier. :)

68 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:24:52pm

re: #62 Walter L. Newton

I love ya, Walter.

69 Gang of One  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:25:00pm

re: #38 MandyManners

Dagnabit I just spat out a grape.

I'll peel you a new one.

Youtube Video
70 HelloDare  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:25:28pm

re: #64 MandyManners

Does that include air-brushed naked photos of Carla Bruni.

71 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:25:44pm

re: #65 jandz

Also- I like your avatar.

72 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:25:47pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

Dear Newbies-

Welcome to LGF! If you need something to help break the commenting ice, how about telling us what brought you to LGF? Always an interesting story- from older Lizards too.

Hope you have fun, just remember to play nice.

Sincerely, Sharmuta

After you wax our cars, of course.

73 Cato the Elder  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:26:02pm

re: #56 collegeguy85

We're going to need some shoes to put those socks in.

;)

Nah. Put 'em in the dryer on high heat. All will shrink, and some will mysteriously disappear forever.

74 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:26:14pm

re: #69 Gang of One

Hell yeah.

75 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:26:21pm

re: #29 Gang of One

Most trolls can [and should] be classified as vegetable anyway.

I thought they were a kind of fungus.

76 debutaunt  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:26:35pm

re: #34 Sharmuta

Same here, but I also blame Brit Hume for introducing me to blogs.

Damn those newsmen! ;)

I love Brit!

77 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:26:52pm

re: #70 HelloDare

Does that include air-brushed naked photos of Carla Bruni.

Probably. Discalimers on airbrushed photos in France could be a coming problem for the porn industry. They'll need to keep abreast of it.

78 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:26:54pm

35 newbies, 5 socks.

79 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:27:29pm

re: #72 The Sanity Inspector

After you wax our cars, of course.

Turle wax? But wouldn't that be reptile-on-reptile violence?

80 Silvergirl  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:27:42pm

re: #48 LudwigVanQuixote

I hope we get 100 newbies.

If that ratio keeps up (25 newbies, 4 socks), we'll have 25 socks if you get your wish. Unless it doesn't work that way. You're the mathematician, so you tell me.

81 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:28:22pm

Does Playboy distribute in France?

82 Gang of One  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:28:22pm

re: #74 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hell yeah.

She's my sekrit deezire ...
/sigh ...
//Drink!

83 filetandrelease  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:28:27pm

re: #77 Honorary Yooper

Probably. Discalimers on airbrushed photos in France could be a coming problem for the porn industry. They'll need to keep abreast of it.


You got a bone to pick with the porn industry?

84 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:28:31pm

re: #14 Dante41

Woo-hoo! I ain't the new guy no more!

Oh yeah? C'mere, you...

Youtube Video
85 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:28:51pm

re: #80 Silvergirl

If that ratio keeps up (25 newbies, 4 socks), we'll have 25 socks if you get your wish. Unless it doesn't work that way. You're the mathematician, so you tell me.

No one said there'd be math.

86 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:28:55pm

re: #83 filetandrelease

You got a bone to pick with the porn industry?

Oh, come on.

87 HelloDare  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:28:55pm

re: #77 Honorary Yooper

Probably. Discalimers on airbrushed photos in France could be a coming problem for the porn industry. They'll need to keep abreast of it.

It's only fair. Tit for twat.

88 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:29:07pm

re: #77 Honorary Yooper

Will it affect just print ads and billboards, or will it also affect ads on the boob-tube?

89 Gang of One  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:29:18pm

re: #75 Kosh's Shadow

I thought they were a kind of fungus.

Fungus kinda grows on you. These types are like vermin -- you wanna get rid of them ASAP, neh?

90 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:29:33pm

re: #64 MandyManners

Like many other Western countries, France requires health warnings on tobacco and alcohol and similar labels on processed food containing genetically modified ingredients. France's regulators are also notoriously tough on marketing campaigns that make false product claims. Now some French legislators want to take consumer protection to an unprecedented level, requiring that advertisements, product labels and even campaign posters carry a warning when they feature a photograph that's been digitally enhanced.


Nanny state!

Sort of on this same thought. Back in 2001, there was a safe sex campaign going on in France. It was this "cute" little condom graphically enhanced to have little "stick" hands and little eyes.

They situated the character in different little settings and situations, which evidently indicated that in these little amorous encounters, a condom would be a good idea.

There was no text, no French, all graphic, so it could be understood by many different language speakers and people of all level of education.

I collected a whole series of these public service "cartoons," by cutting them off of all the packs of cigarettes I was buying in Paris.

An aside, the anti-smoking messages on the French cigarette packs left nothing to the imagination in regards to how you would basically die if you smoke.

91 filetandrelease  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:29:39pm

re: #86 Kosh's Shadow

Sorry, it was a bit tasteless.

92 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:29:41pm

So!
Fresh meat!
Answer this...
What's the diff...between a White collar job and
a Blue collar job...?

93 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:29:44pm

Newbies and a porn pun fest? WOO HOO!!!

94 Gang of One  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:30:05pm

re: #78 Charles

35 newbies, 5 socks.

7:1 ratio.
/I was in school that when they taught that.

95 Dante41  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:30:18pm

re: #84 The Sanity Inspector

Oh yeah? C'mere, you...


[Video]

WOOBWOOBWOOBWOO!

96 Cato the Elder  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:30:20pm

re: #64 MandyManners

Like many other Western countries, France requires health warnings on tobacco and alcohol and similar labels on processed food containing genetically modified ingredients. France's regulators are also notoriously tough on marketing campaigns that make false product claims. Now some French legislators want to take consumer protection to an unprecedented level, requiring that advertisements, product labels and even campaign posters carry a warning when they feature a photograph that's been digitally enhanced.

Nanny state!

Maybe. I would like to see a similar law here in this country for airbrushed or digitally enhanced celebrity photos. Imagine how much better ordinary people would feel if every single image of Heidi Klum or Tom Cruise carried a little advisory that "this image does not accurately depict a real person"!

98 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:30:39pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel

Mirroring the same kind of attitude of the left in Congress, where 90+ Democrats want essentially the same thing - they want an exit strategy.

The rationale for the left and the right differ. The right sees the failure of the left to act responsibly and doesn't want to put more troops in harm's way, while the left sees the whole war in Afghanistan as misguided.

The end result is the same; a crap sandwich where politics trumps rational national security demands.

99 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:31:26pm

re: #90 Walter L. Newton

Sort of on this same thought. Back in 2001, there was a safe sex campaign going on in France. It was this "cute" little condom graphically enhanced to have little "stick" hands and little eyes.

They situated the character in different little settings and situations, which evidently indicated that in these little amorous encounters, a condom would be a good idea.

There was no text, no French, all graphic, so it could be understood by many different language speakers and people of all level of education.

I collected a whole series of these public service "cartoons," by cutting them off of all the packs of cigarettes I was buying in Paris.

An aside, the anti-smoking messages on the French cigarette packs left nothing to the imagination in regards to how you would basically die if you smoke.

Stick people have sex?

100 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:31:48pm

re: #65 jandz

You've read this site??
You've seen no CRAZINESS???
You've (met) FBV?
Ya know that makes you crazy right?
Welcome!

101 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:32:02pm

Hey, the Discovery Institute is following my Twitter feed. Keeping watch on the enemy.

102 Dante41  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:32:03pm

re: #99 MandyManners

Stick people have sex?

Hey, if they've got wood...

103 Silvergirl  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:32:12pm

Welcome to you eggshell covered ones!

I used to be here more often but lately I have a little piece of real estate staked out in hell and I don't get to play much. I can't go into details, but I'm having a bit of a family crisis, to put it mildly. This too shall pass.

104 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:32:19pm

re: #96 Cato the Elder

Maybe. I would like to see a similar law here in this country for airbrushed or digitally enhanced celebrity photos. Imagine how much better ordinary people would feel if every single image of Heidi Klum or Tom Cruise carried a little advisory that "this image does not accurately depict a real person"!

Why try to make life full of soft edges?

105 HelloDare  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:32:24pm

re: #99 MandyManners

Stick people have sex?

Where do you think twigs come from?

106 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:32:31pm

re: #99 MandyManners

Stick people have sex?

Yeah, and their porn's lousy, too.

107 CommonCents  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:32:34pm

re: #39 HelloDare

Charles,

Watch out for this guy.

So that's how he filters out the puppets! Thanks for sharing.

108 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:33:07pm

re: #103 Silvergirl

{Silvergirl} I'm sorry you're going through a rough time. Hang in there.

109 filetandrelease  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:33:09pm

re: #102 Dante41

Hey, if they've got wood...

I. must. refrain.

110 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:33:12pm

re: #96 Cato the Elder

Maybe. I would like to see a similar law here in this country for airbrushed or digitally enhanced celebrity photos. Imagine how much better ordinary people would feel if every single image of Heidi Klum or Tom Cruise carried a little advisory that "this image does not accurately depict a real person"!

Good idea, we can start with your avatar.

111 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:33:16pm

re: #97 Alouette

Like this Ralph Lauren Photoshop disaster?

Freakish.

112 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:33:21pm

re: #106 Guanxi88

'Stick it in!'

113 Cato the Elder  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:33:27pm

re: #99 MandyManners

Stick people have sex?

How do you think supermodels reproduce?

114 anno  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:33:39pm

Hey guys,

found your site from Lileks' The Bleat awhile back.

Anno

115 McSpiff  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:33:52pm

re: #101 Charles

Whats your feed called Charles? I don't see twitter mentioned on the main page..or I'm blind.

116 HelloDare  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:34:03pm

re: #107 CommonCents

So that's how he filters out the puppets! Thanks for sharing.

Here's one he caught in the act.

117 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:34:08pm

re: #102 Dante41

Hey, if they've got wood...

I wonder if they smoke afterwards.

118 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:34:12pm

Hello! I was wondering if I'd ever hit the proverbial open enrollment period!!

I first found LGF during the election, cannot remember how though. Just recently came back via the RS McCain info.

119 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:34:16pm

re: #97 Alouette

Like this Ralph Lauren Photoshop disaster?

Shades of Karen Carpenter! I'll take our SE American morbid obesity, thanks. There's a lot to be said for women who've got some meat on they bones.

120 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:34:21pm

re: #103 Silvergirl

((( Silvergirl)))
Sorry hun,I'm a hugger!;-)

121 Silvergirl  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:34:22pm

re: #113 Cato the Elder

How do you think supermodels reproduce?

Now that is funny.

122 Xenobyte  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:34:30pm

It's been a while since I joined and I never got around to introduce myself back then so here goes... A few words about how I came here.

I found LGF in connection with the fauxtography scandal where the badly photoshopped pictures showed up in newspapers (as the real thing) and I just had to find out how people could be so clueless. Found out about Al-Reuters, Green Helmet Guy and the rest of the menagerie - and decided to join. Now, this right now is actually the first time I've stumbled across an open door here... Back when I wanted to join I always missed the open doors (usually happened in the middle of the night here in Denmark) so I whipped up a small script that once every minute checked to see if the "closed" still appeared on the front page, and if was gone it sent me a text. Just 3 days later at 3:30am the door opened... the text arrived and I got up and signed up. The rest is history... ;)

Anyway, lots of other stuff to talk about... Welcome to the new hatchlings! - Please behave and play nice... More fun that way!

123 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:34:52pm

I'll not say a thing about knotty pine.

124 Danny  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:35:04pm

re: #101 Charles

Hey, the Discovery Institute is following my Twitter feed. Keeping watch on the enemy.

Probably hoping you'll follow them back. They only have 27 followers so far.

125 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:35:07pm

re: #115 McSpiff

Whats your feed called Charles? I don't see twitter mentioned on the main page..or I'm blind.

Link's in the Tools/Info menu.

[Link: twitter.com...]

126 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:35:18pm

re: #117 MandyManners

With all that friction between two sticks, I wonder if they smoke during...

/or combust

127 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:35:20pm

re: #103 Silvergirl

Welcome to you eggshell covered ones!

I used to be here more often but lately I have a little piece of real estate staked out in hell and I don't get to play much. I can't go into details, but I'm having a bit of a family crisis, to put it mildly. This too shall pass.

Best to you in the meantime.

128 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:35:28pm

re: #99 MandyManners

Stick people have sex?

No, the condom was "real" and had digitally added arms (stick figure like) and eyes. I don't remember if it wore a beret, ok.

129 SeaMonkey  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:36:07pm

re: #97 Alouette

Yiiikes

130 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:36:15pm

re: #123 MandyManners

I'll not say a thing about knotty pine.

Splinters.

131 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:36:28pm

re: #126 Fenway_Nation

With all that friction between two sticks, I wonder if they smoke during...

/or combust

Spontaneous combustion can be fun!

132 Dante41  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:36:38pm

re: #128 Walter L. Newton

No, the condom was "real" and had digitally added arms (stick figure like) and eyes. I don't remember if it wore a beret, ok.

"Ho Ho! In France, even ze condoms wear berets!"

133 Silvergirl  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:36:55pm

Hey, I appreciate the support. I don't recall having come on here and whined about my personal life. I'm usually a stiff upper lip type, but sometimes ya just gotta heave a sigh.

Thanks, really.

134 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:37:02pm

re: #128 Walter L. Newton

No, the condom was "real" and had digitally added arms (stick figure like) and eyes. I don't remember if it wore a beret, ok.

I'm having a hard time picturing that. Gotta' link?

135 McSpiff  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:37:26pm

re: #125 Charles

Awesome! I use the same name on twitter as here. I just follow tho.

136 Bagua  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:37:26pm

Flounce-o-meter* is sputtering and flashing and screeching "Warning, Warning, Intruder Alert!"

*now officially recognized.

137 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:38:05pm

Google has zip.

138 HelloDare  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:38:54pm

re: #113 Cato the Elder

How do you think supermodels reproduce?

One case of so-called spontaneous human combustion has been traced to two lesbian supermodels sticks rubbing together.

139 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:39:02pm

Now I have this image of an erect wahoo sporting a beret.

140 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:39:27pm

I'd just love to see a new hatchling flounce in the new hatchling thread. Ideally, the first and only post should be a flounce, to preserve the pure artistry of it.

141 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:39:30pm

re: #136 Bagua

Flounce-o-meter* is sputtering and flashing and screeching "Warning, Warning, Intruder Alert!"

*now officially recognized.

Careful with that thing. Come the next Glenn Beck thread, it'll overheat.

142 HelloDare  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:39:40pm

re: #131 MandyManners

GMTA

143 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:39:57pm

re: #139 MandyManners

Now I have this image of an erect wahoo sporting a beret.

Only in France.

144 Dante41  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:40:39pm

re: #139 MandyManners

Now I have this image of an erect wahoo sporting a beret.

"Ho Ho! In France, even ze johnsons have berets!"

145 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:40:55pm

re: #134 MandyManners

I'm having a hard time picturing that. Gotta' link?

I wear one and take a picture... give me a few minutes to FTP it up to the internet... I'll post a link...

:)

146 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:40:57pm

Hello everyone!

147 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:41:07pm

re: #139 MandyManners

Now I have this image of an erect wahoo sporting a beret.

Sounds like you been looking at those pictures of Sartre again: Googly-eyed Stalinist frog.

148 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:41:16pm

Well, the sock puppet ratio is beginning to increase drastically now.

149 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:41:38pm

re: #146 Varek Raith

Hello everyone!

Welcome.

150 filetandrelease  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:41:50pm

re: #139 MandyManners

Now I have this image of an erect wahoo sporting a beret.


How about a wahoo and a cap?

151 McSpiff  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:42:04pm

re: #146 Varek Raith

Hello everyone!

Salutations!

152 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:42:07pm

IPT Report Documents Viva Palestina's Hamas Support

In the U.S. and England, organizers are laying the groundwork for a convoy of relief aid destined for Gaza. It would be the third such venture by a group calling itself Viva Palestina.

Its two previous trips saw the group deliver medical supplies, ambulances and other goods. They also included meetings with senior Hamas officials. In March, Viva Palestina's leader, British MP George Galloway, defiantly handed a bag of cash directly to a Hamas minister (click here to see the video from the Middle East Media Research Institute):

"I, personally, am about to break the sanctions on the elected government of Palestine. By Allah, we carried a lot of cash here. You thought we were all fat. We are not fat. This is money that we have around our waists ... We are giving you now 100 vehicles and all of the contents. And we make no apology for what I am about to say: We are giving them to the elected government of Palestine; to the Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh."

Galloway was a little more circumspect on the second trip to Gaza in July. There was no public ceremony showing the donations. A group of Viva Palestina convoy participants did meet with Haniyeh, however, who praised them "as heroes; you are opening the eyes of the world to the siege in the Strip."

The Investigative Project on Terrorism has found ample evidence that Viva Palestina's ultimate objective is political – with the elevation of Hamas at its core. How can we be so sure?

153 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:42:10pm

It's amazing to me that some of these people who flounce off with posts full of insults would come back and try to register again.

Someone needs to do a psychological study of this phenomenon.

154 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:42:12pm

re: #148 Charles

Well, the sock puppet ratio is beginning to increase drastically now.

I think the Deucers finally got wind of registration.

155 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:42:41pm

While we're in a sort of quasi-open thread, I cordially invite lizards new and old to swing by my humble blog, which is celebrating it's 1-week anniversary.

Not Another New England Sports Blog! Because well-run and informative blogs don't always cut it these days...

156 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:43:11pm

re: #153 Charles

It's amazing to me that some of these people who flounce off with posts full of insults would come back and try to register again.

Someone needs to do a psychological study of this phenomenon.

Masochism. Every well-stocked video rental place has a small section on the subject, usually kept behind the counter.

157 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:43:20pm

re: #146 Varek Raith
Remember, if you bring Imported beer, don't forget the
bottle opener...!!

158 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:43:25pm

One creep from the stalker blog tried to register. (Again.)

159 Dante41  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:43:35pm

re: #153 Charles

It's amazing to me that some of these people who flounce off with posts full of insults would come back and try to register again.

Someone needs to do a psychological study of this phenomenon.

Definition of insanity. "Trying the same thing twice, and expecting a different result."

160 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:43:50pm

re: #154 Honorary Yooper

I think the Deucers finally got wind of registration.

Remember folks: Flush twice when you post here. They drink it over at Deuce.

161 Lee Coller  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:44:11pm

re: #156 Guanxi88

Masochism. Every well-stocked video rental place has a small section on the subject, usually kept behind the counter.

I won't ask how you know that.

162 Bagua  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:44:27pm

re: #141 Honorary Yooper

Careful with that thing. Come the next Glenn Beck thread, it'll overheat.

Yes, having been alerted to the dangers of Warming, the Flounce-o-meter has been upgraded with a Massive Heat Sink from a classic '55 Chevy AKA The Hot One

163 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:44:28pm

re: #157 reloadingisnotahobby

Remember, if you bring Imported beer, don't forget the
bottle opener...!!

I can do it with a bic lighter, it's cool.

164 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:44:30pm

Socks are caught because they try to register from the same computer/internet connection that they used when they were banned?

165 Dainn  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:44:50pm

re: #81 MandyManners

Does Playboy distribute in France?

Based on some of the people that have had spreads in Playboy over the years, some digital altering should be mandatory.

166 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:45:01pm

Work. Ugh.

"Have fun stormin' the castle!"

167 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:45:07pm

re: #159 Dante41

Shit ...I'm in trouble ...
I thought was six time, then your insane!!

168 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:45:20pm

re: #161 Lee Coller

I won't ask how you know that.

Fellow hears things.

169 SeaMonkey  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:45:21pm

re: #155 Fenway_Nation

Great pitching matchups in the Anaheim series. (Disclosure: Yankee fan here.)

170 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:45:46pm

re: #117 MandyManners

I wonder if they smoke afterwards.

Like Morticia Addams?

171 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:46:09pm

re: #154 Honorary Yooper

I think the Deucers finally got wind of registration.

You know, if you keep going back and forth, at some point you're going to end up like Bruce Willis' character in 12 Monkeys, not knowing which world is really real.

172 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:46:17pm

re: #170 Kosh's Shadow

Like Morticia Addams?

She is hot.

173 HelloDare  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:46:26pm

re: #165 Dainn

Based on some of the people that have had spreads in Playboy over the years, some digital altering should be mandatory.

FIFY

174 debutaunt  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:46:43pm

re: #117 MandyManners

I wonder if they smoke afterwards.

Behind the woodshed.

175 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:46:44pm

T´ain´t no big thing
To wait for the bell to ring
T´ain´t no big thing
The troll of the bell
Aggravated - spare for days
I troll downtown the football place
Jump up bubble up - what´s in store
Flounce is the drug and I need to score
Showing up, bowing out, hit and run
Moby meets troll where beat goes on
Stitched up tight, can´t shake free
Flounce is the drug, got a hook on me
Oh oh catch that buzz
Flounce is the drug i´m thinking of
Oh oh can´t you see
Flounce is the drug for me
Late that night I park my butt
Stake my place in the football blog
Face to face, toe to toe
Bitch to whine as we hit the jar
Lumber up, limbo down
The locked embrace, the stumble round
Stinky say go, he say yes
Dim the lights, you can guess the rest
Oh oh catch that buzz
Flounce is the drug i´m thinking of
Oh oh can´t you see
Flounce is the drug, got a hook in me
Oh oh catch that buzz
Flounce is the drug i´m thinking of
Oh oh can´t you see
Flounce is the drug for me

176 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:46:44pm

re: #164 Ben Hur

Socks are caught because they try to register from the same computer/internet connection that they used when they were banned?

I think it's because they are stupid people! With their stupid stupid minds!

177 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:46:48pm

re: #163 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm quitting smoking!
But my wedding band will do it ...if you know who
isn't around!

178 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:47:00pm

re: #134 MandyManners

I'm having a hard time picturing that. Gotta' link?

I'm actually doing a image search to see if I can find what I am talking about. I think I will stop now. You get some really weird stuff when you google "French condom cigarette pack."

179 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:47:04pm

re: #172 Cannadian Club Akbar

She is hot.

Correction : teh Hawt!

180 Only The Lurker Knows  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:47:17pm

re: #148 Charles

Not surprising. The stalker blog is monitoring.

353. Speranza on 8 October, 2009 at 1:40 pm reply
re: #321 by A_to_the_F

He will get very few newbies who are not socks.

This one is claiming to have opened an account every time you have had an open registration.

321. A_to_the_F on 8 October, 2009 at 1:26 pm reply
Its funny to see Chuckie having new open registrations so often these days. What the current one — the 3rd in the last week?

But it isn’t as funny as watching Chuckles keeping talking about all the sock puppets he’s catching. It is like he enjoys broadcasting his incompetence and it is all too amusing.

What do I mean? I mean that I have registered a new name each and every open Selrahc has had the past month and he has yet to ban any of them. Too funny really.

181 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:47:26pm

re: #164 Ben Hur

IP Address!
YES!

182 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:47:42pm

re: #178 Walter L. Newton

I'm actually doing a image search to see if I can find what I am talking about. I think I will stop now. You get some really weird stuff when you google "French condom cigarette pack."

Tell me about it!

183 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:48:10pm

re: #172 Cannadian Club Akbar

She is hot.

Especially when she speaks French.

184 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:48:17pm

re: #182 MandyManners

Tell me about it!

No, you grab the moment yourself, you got the computer :)

185 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:48:28pm

re: #178 Walter L. Newton

I'm actually doing a image search to see if I can find what I am talking about. I think I will stop now. You get some really weird stuff when you google "French condom cigarette pack."

re: #182 MandyManners

Tell me about it!

Dammit! I pay google per-click for those search-terms! Quit wasting my money.

186 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:48:32pm

re: #169 SeaMonkey


For the life of me, I couldn't get a straight answer on who was starting for Game 3 last night. A couple of different media outlets each listed different starters or TBA.

187 collegeguy85  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:49:22pm

re: #176 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think it's because they are stupid people! With their stupid stupid minds!

It really can't be that complicated to change your ip address, I was under the impression that there are websites out there that can change it. I wonder if the best part of the filter is the non-throwaway email addresses (mine is .edu).

188 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:49:36pm

re: #172 Cannadian Club Akbar

She is hot.


THe original 'Goth' girl

189 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:49:46pm

re: #184 Walter L. Newton

No, you grab the moment yourself, you got the computer :)

Grab *what*?

190 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:50:08pm

re: #185 Guanxi88

Dammit! I pay google per-click for those search-terms! Quit wasting my money.

?

191 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:50:33pm

re: #178 Walter L. Newton

I'm actually doing a image search to see if I can find what I am talking about. I think I will stop now. You get some really weird stuff when you google "French condom cigarette pack."

re: #182 MandyManners

Tell me about it!

re: #184 Walter L. Newton

No, you grab the moment yourself, you got the computer :)

I think he's trying to get you to talk dirty. Just my guess.

192 Dante41  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:51:09pm

Ooo...we have the douches monitoring this thread? Lemme repost something I said in the last Lizard Lounge:

Lemme just say this: I am a Texan Democrat, a devout Eastern Orthodox Christian who fully believes in science and evolution, and a sailor who believes in the UN.

Put that in your pipes and smoke it, ya freakin' imbeciles!

193 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:51:20pm

re: #189 MandyManners

Grab *what*?

That's interesting, I didn't know you could do *THAT* with a condom. I didn't think it would stretch that far?

194 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:51:38pm

re: #180 Bubblehead II

It's a sport to the Deucers. A sick sport, a sport nonetheless. Although, I do wonder sometimes how many of them are merely socks talking to each other.

195 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:51:50pm

re: #190 MandyManners

?

A joke. Google has a sponsored search system where you bid per-click on certain search terms to drive traffic to your business' website. You pay each time someone clicks on your sponsored listing.

196 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:51:58pm

re: #191 Guanxi88
Since when do ya need to try with Mandy??
...Whoops...Look at the time...Gotta go!

197 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:52:04pm

re: #187 collegeguy85

It really can't be that complicated to change your ip address, I was under the impression that there are websites out there that can change it. I wonder if the best part of the filter is the non-throwaway email addresses (mine is .edu).

Charles could detect anonymizers. But there are things they could do if they wanted to get out of their parents' basement sometime.
I'm not giving details. But I think Charles has other tools in Stinky's tool belt to detect socks.
And to the guy who has registered several? Wait until he tries to use them.

198 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:52:12pm

re: #180 Bubblehead II

OK.

Since you made me look, i find this ironic:

373. WrathofG-d on 8 October, 2009 at 1:48 pm reply

re: #357 by Moe Katz

MOe, if you continue to insist on using that word, I am going to ban you.

WRATH!

199 shutdown  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:54:12pm

re: #192 Dante41

Ooo...we have the douches monitoring this thread? Lemme repost something I said in the last Lizard Lounge:

Lemme just say this: I am a Texan Democrat, a devout Eastern Orthodox Christian who fully believes in science and evolution, and a sailor who believes in the UN.

Put that in your pipes and smoke it, ya freakin' imbeciles!

Heads were just heard exploding down the street from me.

200 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:54:17pm

re: #195 Guanxi88

A joke. Google has a sponsored search system where you bid per-click on certain search terms to drive traffic to your business' website. You pay each time someone clicks on your sponsored listing.

Sounds as if math is involved.

201 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:55:09pm

re: #198 Ben Hur

It is irony. They claim not to ban people who comment there, yet there are several instances of just that. They ban people who comment there and do the following,

1. Call them out for the lame asshole douchebags they are.
2. Defend Charles and LGF.

Otherwise, one can be as big an asshole as one wants without being banned.

202 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:55:31pm

re: #200 MandyManners

Sounds as if math is involved.

Yep, you add to Google's revenue while they subtract from your cash-flow; expenses multiply.

203 rwmofo  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:55:46pm

So what's the most creative newbie nic so far?

204 countrockulot  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:55:56pm

Oh boy I am excited. I started reading this site during the 2008 election and have been following it ever since. Lots of interesting links and discussion. I am happy to be a registered member.

205 Dante41  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:55:58pm

re: #199 imp_62

Heads were just heard exploding down the street from me.

HAH! Let 'em blow. They seem to like doing that, anyway.

206 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:56:08pm

re: #201 Honorary Yooper

It is irony. They claim not to ban people who comment there, yet there are several instances of just that. They ban people who comment there and do the following,

1. Call them out for the lame asshole douchebags they are.
2. Defend Charles and LGF.

Otherwise, one can be as big an asshole as one wants without being banned.

You, my dear, spend way to much time stalking the stalkers!

207 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:56:31pm

re: #204 countrockulot

Oh boy I am excited. I started reading this site during the 2008 election and have been following it ever since. Lots of interesting links and discussion. I am happy to be a registered member.

Welcome.

208 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:56:38pm

re: #202 Guanxi88

Yep, you add to Google's revenue while they subtract from your cash-flow; expenses multiply.

As long as long division is not necessary...

209 shutdown  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:56:48pm

re: #200 MandyManners

Sounds as if math is involved.

Impossible. Math is godless.

210 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:57:12pm

RUN TO THE LIGHT, WRATH!!!

211 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:57:14pm

re: #208 MandyManners

As long as long division is not necessary...

When the business eventually goes belly up, there's division to the creditors.

212 collegeguy85  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:57:15pm

re: #199 imp_62

I followed all that but believing in the UN, that kinda lost me.

213 filetandrelease  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:57:43pm

Speaking of math, is that something we discover? or invent?

214 HelloDare  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:57:47pm

Polanski Supporter Frederic Mitterand Is a Pedophile Too

When Roman Polanski was arrested, none was more critical than French Culture Minister Frederic Mitterrand:

Mitterrand said, “To see him like that, thrown to the lions because of ancient history, really doesn’t make any sense.”

Mitterrand continued with a jab against the United States: “In the same way that there is a generous America that we like, there is also a scary America that has just shown its face.”

Now it’s clear why: Mitterand is also a pedophile:

France’s new culture minister, Frédéric Mitterrand, who has defended the filmmaker Roman Polanski against extradition charges for statutory rape, was attacked on Wednesday for his admission in a 2005 autobiography, “The Bad Life,” that he “got into the habit” of paying “young boys” for sex in Southeast Asia despite “the sordid details of this traffic.”

And enjoyed it tremendously:

All these rituals of the market for youths, the slave market excited me enormously … the abundance of very attractive and immediately available young boys put me in a state of desire.

There is a scary Mitterand that has just shown his face.

And you thought it was telling that Woody Allen supported Polanski.

With friends like these . . .

215 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:58:02pm

re: #213 filetandrelease

Speaking of math, is that something we discover? or invent?

Yes.

216 debutaunt  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:58:12pm

re: #208 MandyManners

As long as long division is not necessary...

...carry the two...

217 shutdown  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:58:18pm

re: #213 filetandrelease

Speaking of math, is that something we discover? or invent?

Or sleep through for 4 years.

218 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:58:26pm

re: #213 filetandrelease

Speaking of math, is that something we discover? or invent?

We started 6 packs.

219 jandz  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:58:29pm

re: #71 Sharmuta

Also- I like your avatar.

Ahh yes. The blue bird of happiness. He and I are old friends. =p

Thanks for the welcome and the comment.

220 Dante41  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:58:35pm

re: #212 collegeguy85

I followed all that but believing in the UN, that kinda lost me.

Three letters, my friend. IMO.

221 filetandrelease  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:58:48pm

re: #215 Guanxi88

Yes.

Or maybe no?

222 shutdown  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:59:00pm

re: #212 collegeguy85

I followed all that but believing in the UN, that kinda lost me.

Why? Aren't you into OWG like the rest of us?

223 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:59:21pm

re: #206 Ben Hur

You, my dear, spend way to much time stalking the stalkers!

It makes me laugh while at work. They really are pretty pathetic over there. Every thread gets derailed into the LGF hatefest thread, usually by the 20th comment. And I mean every thread, if it wasn't already noted as the Two-Minute Anti-LGF Hate Thread from the start. These folks just cannot let go and give it up.

224 collegeguy85  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:59:45pm

re: #222 imp_62

I see the UN as being useful for spying on our enemies and talking to governments we otherwise wouldn't talk to.

225 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:59:51pm

re: #214 HelloDare

Great googly moogly! He needs to be run out of town on a rail.

226 shutdown  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:59:53pm

re: #223 Honorary Yooper

It makes me laugh while at work. They really are pretty pathetic over there. Every thread gets derailed into the LGF hatefest thread, usually by the 20th comment. And I mean every thread, if it wasn't already noted as the Two-Minute Anti-LGF Hate Thread from the start. These folks just cannot let go and give it up.

Godwin's second corollary.

227 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 1:59:56pm

re: #204 countrockulot
POSSIBLE NEW BAND MEMBER??
Welcome!

228 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:00:23pm

re: #216 debutaunt

...carry the two...

*sob*

229 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:00:44pm

re: #216 debutaunt

...carry the two...

A little "New Math" anyone? One of Lehrer's best:

Youtube Video
230 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:00:45pm

re: #226 imp_62

Godwin's second corollary.

My prayers go out to Godwin.

Once is tough, but twice is bitch.

231 HelloDare  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:01:13pm

re: #225 MandyManners

Great googly moogly! He needs to be run out of town on a rail.

He'd probably like it.

232 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:01:27pm

re: #224 collegeguy85

I see the UN as being useful for spying on our enemies and talking to governments we otherwise wouldn't talk to.

I don't mean to be an ass, but is the 85 your graduation year, or birth year?

233 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:01:38pm

re: #230 Ben Hur

My prayers go out to Godwin.

Once is tough, but twice is bitch.

Look, cardiologists are a lot better these days. He'll be all right.

234 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:01:41pm

re: #231 HelloDare

He'd probably like it.

Not covered with tar and feathers!

235 John Neverbend  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:01:42pm

re: #217 imp_62

Or sleep through for 4 years.

Wake up! Here's a 7-8th grade math problem. Order the following 3 numbers from lowest to highest. Show working. Do not use a calculator.

1. 3^34
2. 15!
3. 2^51

For the uninitiated, a^b means a raised to the power of b. 15! is 15x14x13x12x...x3x2x1, but you knew that.

236 Only The Lurker Knows  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:01:43pm

re: #194 Honorary Yooper

Generally don't go there, but since I was online when an registration opened up, wanted to see if any of the were bragging about registering a sock. There was.

375. A_to_the_F on 8 October, 2009 at 1:49 pm reply
Oh the open registration threads are the most fun! I just registered an obvious sock puppet to see if it is caught. So far, it has not. I’m really beginning to think its a Soros programmed ‘Bot running the site over there these days.

re: #194 Honorary Yooper

Well, I can understand that one. The user in question was using a racially charged slur and Wrath asked him twice not to use it

237 shutdown  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:01:46pm

re: #225 MandyManners

Great googly moogly! He needs to be run out of town on a rail.

That happened to me once. If you wear bicycle shorts and sit just so, it is actually kind of pleasant. Especially if they grease the rail first.

238 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:01:52pm

re: #219 jandz

Sorry but that bird looks PISSED!!
LOL

239 toddb  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:02:04pm

Hi LGF community. I've been reading for a little while now (wanted to see this "crazy left wing blogger" that used to be a "crazy right wing blogger") and really appreciate what I've seen so far.

Don't know how often I'll be able to post (busy job, new baby, bad at putting my thoughts down on digital paper), but I'll definitely be reading.

Thanks for all the hard work.

T

240 rwmofo  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:02:05pm

re: #214 HelloDare

Awesome...

...not.

241 Dante41  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:02:06pm

re: #224 collegeguy85

I see the UN as being useful for spying on our enemies and talking to governments we otherwise wouldn't talk to.

And hell, it still hasn't failed its original purpose: to prevent WW3.

242 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:02:06pm

re: #219 jandz

Ahh yes. The blue bird of happiness. He and I are old friends. =p

Thanks for the welcome and the comment.

I was going to mention icanhascheeseburger and the blue bird of happiness, but I thought perhaps the image was known outside of that site. We loves lolcats around here.

243 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:02:40pm

re: #100 reloadingisnotahobby

Hey an avatar with Crimson Trace... They sponsor a pal of mine.

244 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:03:49pm

Outty.

245 shutdown  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:03:50pm

re: #224 collegeguy85

I see the UN as being useful for spying on our enemies and talking to governments we otherwise wouldn't talk to.

The UN could not spy on it's own dingaling in the men's room.

246 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:03:56pm

re: #223 Honorary Yooper

I've never had anyone hate me!!
They hate us?
Now I feel complete!

247 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:04:02pm

re: #235 John Neverbend

Wake up! Here's a 7-8th grade math problem. Order the following 3 numbers from lowest to highest. Show working. Do not use a calculator.

1. 3^34
2. 15!
3. 2^51

For the uninitiated, a^b means a raised to the power of b. 15! is 15x14x13x12x...x3x2x1, but you knew that.

You cant take three from two,
Two is less than three,
So you look at the four in the tens place.
Now thats really four tens,
So you make it three tens,
Regroup, and you change a ten to ten ones,
And you add them to the two and get twelve,
And you take away three, thats nine.
Is that clear?

Now instead of four in the tens place
You've got three,
cause you added one,
That is to say, ten, to the two,
But you cant take seven from three,
So you look in the hundreds place.

From the three you then use one
To make ten ones...
(and you know why four plus minus one
Plus ten is fourteen minus one?
cause addition is commutative, right.)
And so you have thirteen tens,
And you take away seven,
And that leaves five...

Well, six actually.
But the idea is the important thing.

Now go back to the hundreds place,
And you're left with two.
And you take away one from two,
And that leaves...?

Everybody get one?
Not bad for the first day!

Hooray for new math,
New-hoo-hoo-math,
It wont do you a bit of good to review math.
Its so simple,
So very simple,
That only a child can do it!
Now that actually is not the answer that I had in mind, because the book that I got this problem out of wants you to do it in base eight. but don't panic.
Base eight is just like base ten really
If you're missing two fingers. shall we have a go at it? hang on.

You cant take three from two,
Two is less than three,
So you look at the four in the eights place.
Now thats really four eights,
So you make it three eights,
Regroup, and you change an eight to eight ones,
And you add them to the two,
And you get one-two base eight,
Which is ten base ten,
And you take away three, thats seven.

Now instead of four in the eights place
You've got three,
cause you added one,
That is to say, eight, to the two,
But you cant take seven from three,
So you look at the sixty-fours.

Sixty-four? how did sixty-four get into it? I hear you cry.
Well, sixty-four is eight squared, don't you see?
(well, you ask a silly question, and you get a silly answer.)

From the three you then use one
To make eight ones,
And you add those ones to the three,
And you get one-three base eight,
Or, in other words,
In base ten you have eleven,
And you take away seven,
And seven from eleven is four.
Now go back to the sixty-fours,
And youre left with two,
And you take away one from two,
And that leaves...?

Now, lets not always see the same hands.
One, thats right!
Whoever got one can stay after the show and clean the erasers.

Hooray for new math,
New-hoo-hoo-math,
It wont do you a bit of good to review math.
Its so simple,
So very simple,
That only a child can do it!

Come back tomorrow night. were gonna do fractions.
Now Ive often thought Id like to write a mathematics text book because I have a title that I know will sell a million copies. Ill call it tropic of calculus.

248 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:04:50pm

re: #232 Ben Hur
Oh yes you do...!

249 debutaunt  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:04:50pm

re: #245 imp_62

The UN could not spy on it's own dingaling in the men's room.

They excel in oil for food for graft.

250 GCM29  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:05:02pm

Hooray, finally made it to one of these 'Door Opens' posts before it closed...been reading for some time now, glad to be registered for comments.

251 jandz  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:05:12pm

re: #238 reloadingisnotahobby

re: #242 Sharmuta

My wife does too. Hell, I confess. I has teh iPhone apps. That bird just gets me every time, though. Good stuff there.

252 ArchangelMichael  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:05:20pm

re: #247 Guanxi88

"New Math"

How do you feel about 2^51?

253 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:05:32pm

re: #250 GCM29

Hooray, finally made it to one of these 'Door Opens' posts before it closed...been reading for some time now, glad to be registered for comments.

Welcome.

254 shutdown  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:05:39pm

re: #235 John Neverbend

Wake up! Here's a 7-8th grade math problem. Order the following 3 numbers from lowest to highest. Show working. Do not use a calculator.

1. 3^34
2. 15!
3. 2^51

For the uninitiated, a^b means a raised to the power of b. 15! is 15x14x13x12x...x3x2x1, but you knew that.

I will work on it. But first I need to know why the equations are wearing those silly little hats.

255 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:05:46pm

re: #252 ArchangelMichael

"New Math"

How do you feel about 2^51?

To quote Beavis: "Number really piss me off!"

256 jaunte  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:05:54pm

re: #245 imp_62

The UN could not spy on it's own dingaling in the men's room.

That's actually a medical condition: El Baradeism.

257 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:05:57pm

re: #235 John Neverbend

Oh shut up!!
/LOL

258 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:06:18pm

re: #251 jandz

re: #242 Sharmuta

My wife does too. Hell, I confess. I has teh iPhone apps. That bird just gets me every time, though. Good stuff there.

I've even made some lolsmurfs for my extended family. ;p

259 filetandrelease  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:06:26pm

re: #254 imp_62

I will work on it. But first I need to know why the equations are wearing those silly little hats.

LOL

260 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:06:35pm

re: #244 Ben Hur

Outty.

Inny.

261 Clemente  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:06:42pm

re: #158 Charles

A live feed of the registration log could be entertaining... Watch the list grow as the prospective hatchlings sign up; watch the socks get picked off and tossed out by the unblinking eye of Mr. Beaumont.

262 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:07:19pm

Registration is now closed. Here are the registered usernames, minus the 17 attempted sock puppets:

No. of hatchlings: 69

Andrew Lazarus
Dewalt
TheGeneral
VirtualSound
mdschomburg
mewlondon
oneisnotprime
DHarley
SherpaDirka
robomace
Davethealchemist
Brizer
brav
yatesc
majortom22773
klavierstucke
boredtechindenver
comradebillyboy
meridan
Coperni
anyshow1
Reallynow?
Innuendo
anno
Copernic
endemicity
Varek Raith
weatherguesser
Stanley Sea
Zeroisanumber
mikeyes
St. Louisville Cards
I'm Probably Posting from Work
bluefox
z4hos
Zackaroni
justthefacts916
Green Machine
kreyagg
mrmeangenes
barbarian
Dona Quixote
jschiraldi
socolofi
ausador
Slipperypete
Tejana27
BeanCurd
toddb
fert
volt
RickVaughn
e5india
elinka
craigs111
donnie77
countrockulot
spbaker90
Bradtacs
HalcyonS
vanderloon
GCM29
sofabed
ChaimYermiyahu
MortenMadsen
Degilm
martyk74
dootz99
rurality

263 ArchangelMichael  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:07:37pm

re: #235 John Neverbend

Wake up! Here's a 7-8th grade math problem. Order the following 3 numbers from lowest to highest. Show working. Do not use a calculator.

1. 3^34
2. 15!
3. 2^51

For the uninitiated, a^b means a raised to the power of b. 15! is 15x14x13x12x...x3x2x1, but you knew that.

Ok without a calculator... its 2, 1, 3

15! probably has no more than 15 zeros so its smaller than the other two.

264 Locker  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:07:44pm

A warm welcome to all of the new folks. The LGF community is basically a big container of Neapolitan ice cream and just as cool. Take a load off and chill.

265 avanti  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:07:51pm

Interesting story about the millions that were made because of the unsourced story about the dollar being dropped as a standard. Lot's of money made by gold traders.

dollar.

266 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:08:24pm

re: #241 Dante41

And hell, it still hasn't failed its original purpose: to prevent WW3.

But with Iran close to getting the bomb, it is getting close to failure.

Of course, what prevented WWIII so far has been the rationality of the Soviet leadership, at least in the sense that they realized they wouldn't want to rule over a radioactive wasteland, and MAD.
I don't think this works for Iran.

267 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:08:34pm

re: #262 Charles

I'm Probably Posting from Work

That one's hilarious.

268 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:08:36pm

Okay AGW question- Has anyone done a good paper on what our planet climate/glaciers/arctic ice would look like, or how different if you factor out humanity? All or in part? I'm very curious to see this if its out there.

269 jaunte  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:09:00pm

Hello new people.
17 sockattempts; too much stupid.

270 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:10:16pm

'Coperni' is a typo for 'Copernic'. That person emailed to explain.

271 CaptObviousman  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:10:19pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

Dear Newbies-

Welcome to LGF! If you need something to help break the commenting ice, how about telling us what brought you to LGF? Always an interesting story- from older Lizards too.

Hope you have fun, just remember to play nice.

Sincerely, Sharmuta

Well, I joined quite a while ago, but I'm a lurker at heart. I pretty much only speak out to comment when something seems absurd and no one else is saying anything.

272 John Neverbend  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:10:25pm

re: #254 imp_62

I will work on it. But first I need to know why the equations are wearing those silly little hats.

Because I'm no good at typing superscripts.

273 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:10:27pm

Hey!
A Dutchmen in there!!
Vanderloon!
Waz up cuzzz???

274 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:10:27pm

re: #262 Charles

The big question is, how many of those that made it through are socks?

275 rwmofo  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:10:27pm

re: #262 Charles

BeanCurd.

Gotta try that one in the bar. "Hey babe. My friends call me BeanCurd."

Heh.

276 vxbush  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:10:45pm

re: #229 Guanxi88

A million updings.

277 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:11:06pm

re: #262 Charles

How many of the 17 sock attempts were from the same dumbass?

278 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:11:36pm

Hey everyone, I joined a little while ago, but never made a formal introduction of myself, so I figure now is a good time. I found LGF through memeorandum and read through for a while, but always found the registration section to be closed. Once I managed to register, I jumped in with both feet, made a fool of myself, and learned quickly that if you can't back what you say in here, you'll get blasted. :)

Now for stuff you probably could care less about ;)

Personally, I live near Atlanta, I'm Libertarian in bent and voted that way in every election I've been able to. Musically I'm all over the map, ranging from Ludovico Einaudi to Dimmu Borgir, from Gwar to Android Lust.

Mostly I'm happy get to talk to people who don't strike me as bat shit crazy. ;)

Thank you Charles for letting me stick around and thanks to the rest of you for giving me a chance to join in the conversation from time to time.

279 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:11:44pm

re: #275 rwmofo

BeanCurd.

Gotta try that one in the bar. "Hey babe. My friends call me BeanCurd."

Heh.

Try it in a vegetarian place. Bean curd is tofu.

280 shutdown  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:12:14pm

re: #265 avanti

Interesting story about the millions that were made because of the unsourced story about the dollar being dropped as a standard. Lot's of money made by gold traders.

dollar.

The runour was reported to have its roots in unsubstantiated reports that China, France, Japan and Russia were secretly working with the Golf nations on replacing the dollar with an unspecified alternative as the international reserve currency.

281 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:12:21pm
Zeroisanumber

Might have to hook this one up with 'I Am Smarter Than You', maybe they can rail against the phallocentrism of 1.

282 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:12:39pm

re: #265 avanti

Interesting story about the millions that were made because of the unsourced story about the dollar being dropped as a standard. Lot's of money made by gold traders.

dollar.

I'm totally confused Avanti. Aside from the actual financial story here, I'm curious about something else. The other day you told me Fox was the original source for this, yet the article you linked to says the source was the British paper The Independent.

What's up?

283 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:12:48pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

Dear Newbies-

Welcome to LGF! If you need something to help break the commenting ice, how about telling us what brought you to LGF? Always an interesting story- from older Lizards too.

I've been reading and posting here since 2002, been registered since...(clicks own avatar) 2004. Like so many others, I was drawn here in the wake of 9/11. I was livid at the jihadists. I felt myself to be part of a community of righteous rage here. Some of the most intemperate things I've ever said in my adult life are floating right here in LGF's archives. Dig them up and fling them in my face, and I don't know that I would honestly disavow all of them.

But so many warblogs from that era have transmogrified or are simply gone. Life has gone on (thanks to our soldiers), different issues have come to the fore, and I'm content to read, listen, & engage with the more liberal-leaning newcomers. Welcome, all.

284 Dante41  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:13:03pm

re: #266 Kosh's Shadow

But with Iran close to getting the bomb, it is getting close to failure.

Of course, what prevented WWIII so far has been the rationality of the Soviet leadership, at least in the sense that they realized they wouldn't want to rule over a radioactive wasteland, and MAD.
I don't think this works for Iran.

Perhaps. We must wait to see if the election incident has had lasting repercussions. But, as I said, anyone who thinks we should pull out of the UN, and thus the IMO, is a fool.

285 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:13:12pm

re: #278 bloodstar

I'm Libertarian in bent and voted that way in every election I've been able to.

Do you count Luap Nor as a Libertarian?

286 gregb  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:13:19pm

re: #86 Kosh's Shadow

Oh, come on.

Not to break the pun thread, but is it "in like Flynn" or "in like Flynt". I never understood the phrase.

287 rwmofo  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:13:26pm

re: #279 Kosh's Shadow

Try it in a vegetarian place. Bean curd is tofu.

OK, but if I get slapped again I'm blaming you.

288 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:13:27pm

re: #279 Kosh's Shadow

Try it in a vegetarian place. Bean curd is tofu.

Great pick-up line there.

289 John Neverbend  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:13:34pm

re: #269 jaunte

Hello new people.
17 sockattempts; too much stupid.

That is rather high, even more than for the prior two registrations which already showed high sock puppet volumes (spv).

290 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:13:37pm

re: #281 Sharmuta

Might have to hook this one up with 'I Am Smarter Than You', maybe they can rail against the phallocentrism of 1.

Ech! Hot structuralist-on-structuralist, post-modern action.

291 dahveed  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:13:37pm

re: #265 avanti

I, for one, just bought some shares in a gold ETF. I might as well take advantage of the current gold rage. May even put a few extra worthless dollars in my pocket.

292 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:13:44pm

re: #271 CaptObviousman

Well, I joined quite a while ago, but I'm a lurker at heart. I pretty much only speak out to comment when something seems absurd and no one else is saying anything.

Well, aren't you just a great little contribution to mankind.
/

293 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:13:46pm

re: #155 Fenway_Nation

While we're in a sort of quasi-open thread, I cordially invite lizards new and old to swing by my humble blog, which is celebrating it's 1-week anniversary.

Not Another New England Sports Blog! Because well-run and informative blogs don't always cut it these days...

I gotcha with that bauxite tariffs crack, didn't I? ;)

294 jaunte  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:13:53pm

re: #286 gregb

Flynn (Errol).

295 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:14:16pm

re: #286 gregb

Not to break the pun thread, but is it "in like Flynn" or "in like Flynt". I never understood the phrase.

Flynn as in Eroll Flynn.

296 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:14:29pm

re: #271 CaptObviousman

Well, I joined quite a while ago, but I'm a lurker at heart. I pretty much only speak out to comment when something seems absurd and no one else is saying anything.

Right - for example, when you defended Michelle Malkin for gloating over the loss of the Olympic bid.

297 keithgabryelski  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:14:51pm

re: #180 Bubblehead II


321. A_to_the_F on 8 October, 2009 at 1:26 pm reply
What do I mean? I mean that I have registered a new name each and every open Selrahc has had the past month and he has yet to ban any of them. Too funny really.

A few things come to mind:

1) I don't understand what is being caught by the sock puppet watch dogs on LGF. Can my wife register under her name from our shared machine? Not that she will, she would lose the opportunity to give me the hair eyeball and say "have you protected the interwebs sufficiently tonight?"

2) At least his guy claims the watch dog is not complete (which is hopefully give the benefit of doubt on registrations and limit the false positives to zero) and somewhat easy to elude, well then: what the heck that mean for the 10% of registrations (or so) that can't dance around this simple trap?

3) rejection is a powerful thing.

298 gregb  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:14:55pm

re: #235 John Neverbend

Wake up! Here's a 7-8th grade math problem. Order the following 3 numbers from lowest to highest. Show working. Do not use a calculator.

1. 3^34
2. 15!
3. 2^51

For the uninitiated, a^b means a raised to the power of b. 15! is 15x14x13x12x...x3x2x1, but you knew that.

Or a good set theory one (15%P%3) which is 15 choose combinations of 3, which is 15! divided by 3!.

299 shutdown  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:15:23pm

re: #285 wrenchwench

Do you count Luap Nor as a Libertarian?

Don't answer that. It's a trick question - Ronpaulianism is to Libertarianism what water is to the wicked witch of the west. Or is it the other way round?

300 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:15:26pm

re: #279 Kosh's Shadow

Try it in a vegetarian place. Bean curd is tofu.

Vegetarians drink. Some of them drink a LOT.

301 countrockulot  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:15:48pm

re: #270 Charles

We had an infestation of Coperni at the house a while back. Darn things kept formulating a comprehensive heliocentric cosmology all over the place.

302 Digital Display  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:15:49pm

re: #101 Charles

Hey, the Discovery Institute is following my Twitter feed. Keeping watch on the enemy.

Heck..I didn't know you had a twitter account... Now I can not only see what Megan Fox has for lunch every day.. But what Charles is up to..

303 gregb  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:16:02pm

re: #295 MandyManners

Flynn as in Eroll Flynn.

Laughing...I guess I could have googled it!

304 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:16:03pm

re: #286 gregb

Not to break the pun thread, but is it "in like Flynn" or "in like Flynt". I never understood the phrase.

re: #295 MandyManners

Flynn as in Eroll Flynn.

And it references a very disturbing incident:

Flynn, a popular film star in the 1930s, became notorious in November 1942 when he was charged with two counts of statutory rape. Though acquitted he was the butt of jokes ever after.

One film bio none too subtly comments, "Warner Brothers . . . found [Flynn's] popularity not only had held but had a new spurt of interest. A new phrase was added to the English language: `In like Flynn'" (Tony Thomas et al, The Films of Errol Flynn, 1969).

305 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:16:09pm

re: #286 gregb

Not to break the pun thread, but is it "in like Flynn" or "in like Flynt". I never understood the phrase.

Flynn.

306 rwmofo  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:16:10pm

re: #286 gregb

Not to break the pun thread, but is it "in like Flynn" or "in like Flynt". I never understood the phrase.

There was a James Coburn movie, "In like Flint."

307 vanderloon  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:16:12pm

re: #10 LudwigVanQuixote

Welcome new folks!

We've been remodeling lately. Please do enjoy your stay. Have a bagel!

(We will discuss probes and Zionist paychecks after you have settled in).

I am aware of all intertron traditions and also of literary conventions in which bagels and probes are offered.

It seems to me that what your are about is, well, sort of questionable.

Can you please expand on the idea your propose that putting something in blockquotes or in probes or bagles is a fair thing to do.

308 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:16:19pm

What does ^ mean?

309 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:16:44pm

re: #283 The Sanity Inspector

I've been reading and posting here since 2002, been registered since...(clicks own avatar) 2004. Like so many others, I was drawn here in the wake of 9/11. I was livid at the jihadists. I felt myself to be part of a community of righteous rage here. Some of the most intemperate things I've ever said in my adult life are floating right here in LGF's archives. Dig them up and fling them in my face, and I don't know that I would honestly disavow all of them.

But so many warblogs from that era have transmogrified or are simply gone. Life has gone on (thanks to our soldiers), different issues have come to the fore, and I'm content to read, listen, & engage with the more liberal-leaning newcomers. Welcome, all.

Thanks- I really like hearing people's various tales of how they came to join, and the older Lizards are just as interesting to me as the newbies.

310 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:16:47pm

re: #297 keithgabryelski

A few things come to mind:

1) I don't understand what is being caught by the sock puppet watch dogs on LGF. Can my wife register under her name from our shared machine? Not that she will, she would lose the opportunity to give me the hair eyeball and say "have you protected the interwebs sufficiently tonight?"

That's not a problem as long as you email me and explain the situation, so I don't assume it's a sock puppet attempt.

2) At least his guy claims the watch dog is not complete (which is hopefully give the benefit of doubt on registrations and limit the false positives to zero) and somewhat easy to elude, well then: what the heck that mean for the 10% of registrations (or so) that can't dance around this simple trap?

Don't forget -- those idiots lie as easily as they breathe.

311 jaunte  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:16:52pm

re: #300 SanFranciscoZionist

Vegetarians drink. Some of them drink a LOT.

Too much kale can make you bitter.

312 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:16:55pm

re: #308 MandyManners

What does ^ mean?

It's left of >

313 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:17:05pm

re: #308 MandyManners

What does ^ mean?

Whenever I see that on the printed page, I make sure my glasses are clean, and if they are, I close the book and step away.

314 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:17:27pm

re: #303 gregb

Laughing...I guess I could have googled it!

I have strange bits of information floating around.

315 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:17:34pm

re: #304 Guanxi88

And it references a very disturbing incident:

Flynn, a popular film star in the 1930s, became notorious in November 1942 when he was charged with two counts of statutory rape. Though acquitted he was the butt of jokes ever after.

One film bio none too subtly comments, "Warner Brothers . . . found [Flynn's] popularity not only had held but had a new spurt of interest. A new phrase was added to the English language: `In like Flynn'" (Tony Thomas et al, The Films of Errol Flynn, 1969).

Yes. I couldn't remember.

316 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:17:49pm

re: #304 Guanxi88

And it references a very disturbing incident:

Flynn, a popular film star in the 1930s, became notorious in November 1942 when he was charged with two counts of statutory rape. Though acquitted he was the butt of jokes ever after.

One film bio none too subtly comments, "Warner Brothers . . . found [Flynn's] popularity not only had held but had a new spurt of interest. A new phrase was added to the English language: `In like Flynn'" (Tony Thomas et al, The Films of Errol Flynn, 1969).

Acquitted?

317 CaptObviousman  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:17:57pm

re: #296 Charles

Right - for example, when you defended Michelle Malkin for gloating over the los of the Olympic bid.

My thoughts haven't changed; I still feel you were too harsh.

318 shutdown  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:18:09pm

re: #287 rwmofo

OK, but if I get slapped again I'm blaming you.

Youtube Video
319 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:18:43pm

re: #312 Walter L. Newton

It's left of >

Dragon's mouth.

320 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:18:49pm

re: #317 CaptObviousman

My thoughts haven't changed; I still feel you were too harsh.

Somehow, I'll try to carry on despite your disapproval.

321 rwmofo  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:18:49pm

re: #308 MandyManners

What does ^ mean?

It's up there.

322 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:19:14pm

re: #308 MandyManners
Tinfoil hat!

323 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:19:16pm

re: #313 Guanxi88

Whenever I see that on the printed page, I make sure my glasses are clean, and if they are, I close the book and step away.

I've never seen it.

324 anno  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:19:26pm

what do the pluses and minuses on the quotes do?

325 gregb  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:19:43pm

re: #302 HoosierHoops

Heck..I didn't know you had a twitter account... Now I can not only see what Megan Fox has for lunch every day.. But what Charles is up to..

I went to VC in the OC this morning. Guy Kawasaki was the keynote speaker, but instead he took and hour to demo Twitter.

[Link: holykaw.alltop.com...]

326 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:19:43pm

re: #323 MandyManners

I've never seen it.

Well, then we can be sure your glasses are clean, anyway.

327 vxbush  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:20:02pm

re: #308 MandyManners

What does ^ mean?

Okay, I could answer this about fifteen different ways, most of them involving snark or sarcasm, but I won't...

It's a shorthand notation for indicating raising one number to a power. 2^3 is a way to say two to the third power, or 2*2*2 = 8.

328 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:20:05pm

re: #324 anno

what do the pluses and minuses on the quotes do?

Check your karma.

329 jaunte  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:20:10pm

re: #324 anno

You can get frequent lizard points if people click + on your comment.

330 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:20:29pm

re: #329 jaunte

You can get frequent lizard points if people click + on your comment.

Redeemable for valuable prizes.

331 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:20:31pm

re: #324 anno

what do the pluses and minuses on the quotes do?

Upding and downding. Karma, IIRC.

332 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:20:32pm

re: #327 vxbush

Okay, I could answer this about fifteen different ways, most of them involving snark or sarcasm, but I won't...

It's a shorthand notation for indicating raising one number to a power. 2^3 is a way to say two to the third power, or 2*2*2 = 8.

Ahhh. Thanks!

333 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:20:52pm

re: #327 vxbush

Okay, I could answer this about fifteen different ways, most of them involving snark or sarcasm, but I won't...

It's a shorthand notation for indicating raising one number to a power. 2^3 is a way to say two to the third power, or 2*2*2 = 8.

Why don't you just write "8?"

334 jaunte  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:20:57pm

re: #330 Guanxi88

Redeemable for valuable prizes.

Quatloovium!

335 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:21:11pm

re: #329 jaunte

You can get frequent lizard points if people click + on your comment.

I'll not make the dirty joke that's just begging to be made.

336 jaunte  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:21:35pm

re: #335 MandyManners

I'll not make the dirty joke that's just begging to be made.

I want to know!

337 vxbush  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:22:10pm

re: #333 Walter L. Newton

Why don't you just write "8?"

Because I can't do that when variables are involved...

338 ArchangelMichael  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:22:11pm

re: #334 jaunte

Quatloovium!

I thought Quatloos were fiat currency.

339 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:22:11pm

re: #336 jaunte

I want to know!

Cat? Meet "Curiosity".

340 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:22:19pm

re: #324 anno

Browny points!
But please wear protective gloves...No telling who's touched it last!...or next for that matter!

341 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:22:29pm

re: #335 MandyManners

I'll not make the dirty joke that's just begging to be made.

Something like "Yeah, it may seem fun, having all those lizards hitting yur dinger, but there are diseases out there, not to mention your own self-respect."

342 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:22:43pm

re: #288 MandyManners

Great pick-up line there.

The guys can tell the vegetarian women their meat is really tofu, so it is OK. Of course, it would be extra firm tofu.

343 vxbush  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:22:51pm

re: #340 reloadingisnotahobby

Browny points!
But please wear protective gloves...No telling who's touched it last!...or next for that matter!

You know, I'm sure hand sanitizer would be a really good idea on those plusses and minuses...

344 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:22:54pm

re: #317 CaptObviousman

My thoughts haven't changed; I still feel you were too harsh.


Huh? How so? Her, and the rightwingnuts in general, 'criticism' gloating of the Olympic bid loss was ridiculous.

345 Dreader1962  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:22:56pm

re: #332 MandyManners

Ahhh. Thanks!


See - LGF is a place of learning!

Really, though - sarcasm has its place, but eventually an honest question deserves a good answer. Remember that the internet is a diverse community.

Also, remember that your mom could be on here!

346 avanti  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:23:03pm

re: #282 Walter L. Newton

I'm totally confused Avanti. Aside from the actual financial story here, I'm curious about something else. The other day you told me Fox was the original source for this, yet the article you linked to says the source was the British paper The Independent.

What's up?

I thought I said FOX was was pushing the story, but did not mention the source. FOX and Drudge ran with it, and that made it more widely read. The Fox business network hammered it all day too.

347 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:23:19pm

re: #340 reloadingisnotahobby

Browny points!
But please wear protective gloves...No telling who's touched it last!...or next for that matter!

re: #341 Guanxi88

Something like "Yeah, it may seem fun, having all those lizards hitting yur dinger, but there are diseases out there, not to mention your own self-respect."

GMTA.

348 Only The Lurker Knows  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:23:19pm

re: #310 Charles

Thanks for answering that Charles. Wasn't sure how to go about it without misrepresenting LGF rules or internal operations.

349 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:23:20pm

re: #327 vxbush
I knew that...I did!

350 anno  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:23:21pm

Oh Yeah. THanks. I scrolled over the heart it comes up 'favorites' then nothing on the plus or minus sign. But It should have been clear now that you tell me.

351 rwmofo  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:23:25pm

re: #339 MandyManners

Cat? Meet "Curiosity".

Curiosity killed the cat - but for a while I was a suspect.

352 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:23:37pm

re: #337 vxbush

Because I can't do that when variables are involved...

Well, it's 3^3 degrees here right now... and snowing.

353 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:23:52pm

re: #342 Kosh's Shadow

The guys can tell the vegetarian women their meat is really tofu, so it is OK. Of course, it would be extra firm tofu.

No jiggling tofu?

354 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:24:03pm

re: #333 Walter L. Newton

GMTA

355 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:24:07pm

re: #347 MandyManners

GDMTA.

356 gregb  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:24:14pm

re: #304 Guanxi88

And it references a very disturbing incident:

Flynn, a popular film star in the 1930s, became notorious in November 1942 when he was charged with two counts of statutory rape. Though acquitted he was the butt of jokes ever after.

One film bio none too subtly comments, "Warner Brothers . . . found [Flynn's] popularity not only had held but had a new spurt of interest. A new phrase was added to the English language: `In like Flynn'" (Tony Thomas et al, The Films of Errol Flynn, 1969).

One of my favorite dictionaries on my shelf is the Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional Phrases by Eric Partridge.

They need to update it.

358 vxbush  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:24:33pm

re: #352 Walter L. Newton

Well, it's 3^3 degrees here right now... and snowing.

Better that than 2^1028 degrees...

359 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:25:08pm

re: #345 Dreader1962

Also, remember that your mom could be on here!

Not mine. She loathes the Internet.

360 jaunte  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:25:40pm

re: #352 Walter L. Newton

It's 90º right now in Houston.

361 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:25:58pm

re: #351 rwmofo

Curiosity killed the cat - but for a while I was a suspect.

*mew*

362 Dante41  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:26:27pm

re: #360 jaunte

It's 90º right now in Houston.

As it is in Galveston, but at least it is windy down here.

364 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:26:43pm

re: #357 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Sorry it it's been posted already.

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama is prepared to accept some Taliban involvement in Afghanistan's political future and appears inclined to send only as many more U.S. troops as needed to keep al-Qaida at bay, a senior administration official said Thursday.

That's a very frustrating story. But unfortunately, the Taliban are not something any military force will ever be able to defeat -- they're an outgrowth of a very deeply ingrained religion among Afghans. The only thing that will ever put an end to that kind of Dark Ages ideology is education and modernization. Can't be done with force.

365 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:26:43pm

re: #360 jaunte

It's 90º right now in Houston.

And probably 100 percent humidity...

366 ArchangelMichael  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:27:02pm

re: #352 Walter L. Newton

Well, it's 3^3 degrees here right now... and snowing.

I think it's slightly colder than that here... oh you meant Fahrenheit not Celsius.

367 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:27:09pm

re: #352 Walter L. Newton
So just say 9dig damn it!!
LOL
Wow...! 9 dig?
Really?

368 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:27:18pm

re: #359 MandyManners

Also, remember that your mom could be on here!

Not mine. She loathes the Internet.


Mine wouldn't be caught in a dump like this anyway, and would be certain to get the Troll stick in fairly short order.

369 GCM29  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:27:26pm

re: #362 Dante41

I'm in McAllen (Rio Grande Valley) and its insanely windy down here...not fun.

370 vxbush  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:28:07pm

Gotta go; family is awaiting at home for my imminent arrival.

371 jaunte  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:28:07pm

re: #365 Walter L. Newton

And probably 100 percent humidity...

60, but feels like 100.

372 CaptObviousman  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:28:10pm

re: #344 Varek Raith

Huh? How so? Her, and the rightwingnuts in general, 'criticism' gloating of the Olympic bid loss was ridiculous.

Did we read the same blog post? She said Chicago could ill afford to be spending money on Olypmic-quality facilities when it had so many other problems to take care of first. That sounds like good sense to me.

But then, I don't follow her blog and writings on a daily basis. I suspect there's a long history of mouth-frothing at work here I'm unaware of.

373 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:28:14pm

re: #302 HoosierHoops

Heck..I didn't know you had a twitter account... Now I can not only see what Megan Fox has for lunch every day.. But what Charles is up to..

Don't bother looking up what supermodels have for lunch.

374 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:28:43pm

re: #367 reloadingisnotahobby

So just say 9dig damn it!!
LOL
Wow...! 9 dig?
Really?

Yea, it's 27 degrees, and heavy clouds, but only a light snow. Was suppose to be 1-2 inches, but right now it doesn't look like that's going to happen.

375 gregb  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:28:48pm

re: #306 rwmofo

There was a James Coburn movie, "In like Flint."

Yes--that explains the confusion. Blame KCET TV 13 movies in the early 70's for confusing a poor kid...

I think growing up I was the only one who watched "Master of the Flying Guillotine" on ch13 more than Tarantino did.

376 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:29:08pm

re: #364 Charles

That's a very frustrating story. But unfortunately, the Taliban are not something any military force will ever be able to defeat -- they're an outgrowth of a very deeply ingrained religion among Afghans. The only thing that will ever put an end to that kind of Dark Ages ideology is education and modernization. Can't be done with force.

Precisely.

And ... the differentiation between Taliban and al Qaida has grown less and less over the past couple of years. (per Long War Journal) al Q's Shadow Army is considered the elite by the Taliban, and membership in it is a sought-after honor.

377 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:29:22pm

re: #366 ArchangelMichael

I think it's slightly colder than that here... oh you meant Fahrenheit not Celsius.

No, it's not 84 (f) here (ok, I did that in my head, it's close enough for tourists).

378 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:29:33pm

re: #351 rwmofo

Curiosity killed the cat - but for a while I was a suspect.

I thought it was the chef at the Peking Moon

Youtube Video
379 Dante41  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:29:44pm

re: #373 Kosh's Shadow

Don't bother looking up what supermodels have for lunch.

Why look for something that doesn't exist?

380 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:30:20pm

re: #363 MandyManners

Oh, fuck no.

If true, if it becomes his policy, it might (might) be the death of his Legacy.

381 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:30:35pm

re: #379 Dante41

Why look for something that doesn't exist?

[Link: shine.yahoo.com...]

382 Randall Gross  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:31:17pm

re: #364 Charles

That's a very frustrating story. But unfortunately, the Taliban are not something any military force will ever be able to defeat -- they're an outgrowth of a very deeply ingrained religion among Afghans. The only thing that will ever put an end to that kind of Dark Ages ideology is education and modernization. Can't be done with force.

While you are correct that at some point we will need to make peace with some form of the leftover Taliban, this is hudna by my read. The Afghan Taliban sent a signal a couple days back on this, basically saying that they have no interests outside of Afghanistan for terror. We know that's bullshit until they hand over Omar, Bin Laden, Zawahiri and the rest of the AQ shura council. Now if that were to happen, sure, let's make peace.

383 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:31:37pm

re: #380 pre-Boomer Marine brat

If true, if it becomes his policy, it might (might) be the death of his Legacy.

I didn't know he drove a buick.

384 shutdown  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:31:50pm

re: #364 Charles

That's a very frustrating story. But unfortunately, the Taliban are not something any military force will ever be able to defeat -- they're an outgrowth of a very deeply ingrained religion among Afghans. The only thing that will ever put an end to that kind of Dark Ages ideology is education and modernization. Can't be done with force.

And ot complete the thought, that is precisely what the Taleban are combating - modernization. They don't care whether it is being introduced by Americans. Russians, or Eskimos. POTUS has to decide where the line is to be drawn between our national interests and "nation building" (in quotes because honestly, I have no idea what the heck that really means).

385 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:32:33pm

re: #383 Guanxi88

I didn't know he drove a buick.

That response was a bunch of Taurus!

386 Digital Display  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:32:36pm

re: #373 Kosh's Shadow

Don't bother looking up what supermodels have for lunch.

I was teasing of course.. But seriously..It's not what Supermodels eat for lunch.. It's what happens afterwards...It's a serious issue for a woman's health.. I think education has made leaps and bounds with this issue.

387 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:32:58pm

re: #380 pre-Boomer Marine brat

If true, if it becomes his policy, it might (might) be the death of his Legacy.

And a whole lot of people.

388 ArchangelMichael  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:33:22pm

re: #375 gregb

Yes--that explains the confusion. Blame KCET TV 13 movies in the early 70's for confusing a poor kid...

I think growing up I was the only one who watched "Master of the Flying Guillotine" on ch13 more than Tarantino did.

Youtube Video
389 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:33:34pm

re: #387 MandyManners

And a whole lot of people.

*prayers*

390 gregb  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:34:19pm

re: #313 Guanxi88

Whenever I see that on the printed page, I make sure my glasses are clean, and if they are, I close the book and step away.

My brother in law was getting his phd in physics years ago looking for sub-atomic particles that take tens of years to find by monitoring a dark room underground for decades. He printed out a standard report on an old printer where the ribbon accidentally touched the printout. He showed it to his advisor saying "no results yet". His advisor freaked out and started jumping around excited. He thought the ink smudge was evidence of positive results. My brother in law had to spend the next 30 minutes explaining to him the intricacies and lifecycle of ribbon-based printers--the whole time the professor treating him with skepticism.

Science is all about repeatability. Imagine having a false positive on something that's not likely to be replicated in half a lifetime.

391 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:34:28pm

re: #300 SanFranciscoZionist

Vegetarians drink. Some of them drink a LOT.

hey!

392 erraticsphinx  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:36:56pm

Social conservatives gone wild:

Nanny state!!

393 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:37:23pm

re: #387 MandyManners

And a whole lot of people.

Not to mention acid thrown in the faces of girls on their way to school.

394 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:37:48pm

re: #393 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Not to mention acid thrown in the faces of girls on their way to school.

8-(

395 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:37:49pm

Crazy Like A Fox Alert:

Cable News Ratings
Oct.6, 2009
5PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Glenn Beck – 2,603,000 viewers (589,000) (1,149,000)
Situation Room—517,000 viewers (101,000) (195,000)
Hardball w/ Chris Matthews—487,000 viewers (91,000) (243,000)
Fast Money—234,000 viewers (68,000) (105,000)
Prime News–236,000 viewers (119,000) (150,000)

[Link: tvbythenumbers.com...]

How can someone who is this insane be this popular? Beck is more than twice as popular as his competition combined. And his loony radio show draws 9,000,000+ listeners - also wildly successful.
WTF is happening?

396 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:37:57pm

re: #388 ArchangelMichael

Reminds me of the story about a group of Western nuns trapped in Peking during the Boxer Rebellion. A mob set upon them and chased them down an alleyway and were about to fall upon them when the folk at the head of the mob noticed that the nuns' habits had long, heavy-looking sleeves. (The nuns used to keep their breviaries and other stuff in their sleeves, for safe keeping.)

Well, to a chinese street-fighter of the period, a sleeve that was long and hung like that meant that its wearer was an accomplished martial artist, armed for the melee. ("weighted sleeves" was an old trick - make your sleeves about 6 or more inches longer than your arms, and weight the cuffs with pieces of iron. throw a punch that can kill). Nuns raised their hands in prayer for deliverance, and the mob scattered in terror.

397 Locker  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:38:30pm

re: #364 Charles

That's a very frustrating story. But unfortunately, the Taliban are not something any military force will ever be able to defeat -- they're an outgrowth of a very deeply ingrained religion among Afghans. The only thing that will ever put an end to that kind of Dark Ages ideology is education and modernization. Can't be done with force.

Very well said. Right now our troops are just meat in the grinder. It's upsetting, no only because I'm ex-Army and have friends and family with their boots on the ground.

398 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:38:35pm

re: #395 Spare O'Lake

Fives times the numbers of his closest competitor?

399 Randall Gross  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:39:13pm

re: #395 Spare O'Lake

I've never been able to satisfactorily explain the Howard Stern and Don Imus audience either, but they are there.

400 gregb  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:39:45pm

re: #378 Kosh's Shadow

I thought it was the chef at the Peking Moon

www.youtube.com...]>

Vin Diesel in Babylon AD is shown in that movie cooking a cat up for dinner by skilleting it up Cuban style with onions.

401 Dreader1962  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:39:51pm

re: #364 Charles

That's a very frustrating story. But unfortunately, the Taliban are not something any military force will ever be able to defeat -- they're an outgrowth of a very deeply ingrained religion among Afghans. The only thing that will ever put an end to that kind of Dark Ages ideology is education and modernization. Can't be done with force.

Because we don't do genocide.

Frustrating, but the White House may be trying to assemble a definition of victory that allows an end to the war. What I can't stand is the attitude I see on the right that sees any hint of defining an end to the war as 'cut and run'.

402 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:40:16pm

re: #392 erraticsphinx

Social conservatives gone wild:

Nanny state!!

Good grief.

This kind of ridiculous, intrusive, domineering garbage is why the GOP has lost me. It's disgusting. At a time when they should be working on helping the American economy, they're wasting time and lots of money promoting this kind of crap.

403 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:40:54pm

re: #392 erraticsphinx

Social conservatives gone wild:

Nanny state!!

Do these people overlap with the people who are terrified that the Obama administration will get a hold of their medical records and DO something with them? If so, now I know where they got that idea from.

Feh.

404 Dreader1962  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:41:04pm

re: #368 Guanxi88

Mine wouldn't be caught in a dump like this anyway, and would be certain to get the Troll stick in fairly short order.

I bought my mom a computer, desk, printer, and paid for her connection. She never used it. I think she was afraid of breaking the internet.

405 Locker  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:41:12pm

re: #397 Locker

Very well said. Right now our troops are just meat in the grinder. It's upsetting, no only because I'm ex-Army and have friends and family with their boots on the ground.

not

406 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:41:32pm

re: #395 Spare O'Lake

Crazy Like A Fox Alert:

How can someone who is this insane be this popular? Beck is more than twice as popular as his competition combined. And his loony radio show draws 9,000,000+ listeners - also wildly successful.
WTF is happening?

Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

407 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:41:35pm

re: #285 wrenchwench

Do you count Luap Nor as a Libertarian?

That I had to google to figure out it was He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Mentioned-Really-I-Mean-It should say something.

He has Libertarian tendencies, but at *best* he was utterly negligent in surrounding himself with racists and crackpots, and at worst was in bed with them (I'm not sure which would be worse in my eyes). HWMNBMRIMI has given Libertarianism a black eye. and Barr was sadly... too uninteresting to really catch fire last election.

408 gregb  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:42:00pm

re: #385 pre-Boomer Marine brat

That response was a bunch of Taurus!

He's got the Vibe of the nation. There's been Rainier days.

409 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:42:30pm

re: #395 Spare O'Lake

Crazy Like A Fox Alert:

How can someone who is this insane be this popular? Beck is more than twice as popular as his competition combined. And his loony radio show draws 9,000,000+ listeners - also wildly successful.
WTF is happening?

The right wing has gone insane. That's what's happening.

410 lone_wolf_in_illinois  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:42:40pm

Thank you Charles for your reconsideration. I appreciate your willing to hear me out and promise I will think a bit more critically before posting.

reborn Lizard (no meaning behind that other than I get a fresh start!)

411 Randall Gross  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:42:52pm

re: #402 Charles

Third comment in at Huffpo you see the Lila Rose vid.

412 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:42:59pm

re: #392 erraticsphinx

Social conservatives gone wild:

Nanny state!!

Ah yes- more shaming of the female's sexuality. And they wonder why they keep losing elections.

413 Digital Display  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:43:14pm

re: #402 Charles

Good grief.

This kind of ridiculous, intrusive, domineering garbage is why the GOP has lost me. It's disgusting. At a time when they should be working on helping the American economy, they're wasting time and lots of money promoting this kind of crap.

Are we returning to the Times of a scarlet A on woman? Not adulterous but had an Abortion? Oh sure..You won't have to wear the A.. We'll just post it on the Internet for the world to see...

414 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:43:56pm

re: #413 HoosierHoops

Exactly, Hoops. Exactly.

415 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:44:31pm

re: #396 Guanxi88

Reminds me of the story about a group of Western nuns trapped in Peking during the Boxer Rebellion. A mob set upon them and chased them down an alleyway and were about to fall upon them when the folk at the head of the mob noticed that the nuns' habits had long, heavy-looking sleeves. (The nuns used to keep their breviaries and other stuff in their sleeves, for safe keeping.)

Well, to a chinese street-fighter of the period, a sleeve that was long and hung like that meant that its wearer was an accomplished martial artist, armed for the melee. ("weighted sleeves" was an old trick - make your sleeves about 6 or more inches longer than your arms, and weight the cuffs with pieces of iron. throw a punch that can kill). Nuns raised their hands in prayer for deliverance, and the mob scattered in terror.

From Robert Van Gulik - sounds dutch to me, but I don't hold that against him.

416 theheat  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:46:50pm

re: #99 MandyManners

(Pardon if I missed this already upthread) How stick people became extinct (NSFW).

417 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:47:05pm

Woohoo, I finally managed to check the site while the door was still open!

Been lurking for a little while but have managed to somehow miss the last several times registration was open. I guess I'm lucky that my schedule has been so crazy the last few weeks otherwise I would still be at work now. Anyway I just want to say HI! to all the Lizards whose comments I have been following (mostly with respect and approval) and tell Charles to keep up the good work.

It will be nice to be able to comment instead of having to settle for muttering at my monitor...maybe the girlfriend will quit giving me weird looks now?

418 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:47:08pm

re: #400 gregb

Vin Diesel in Babylon AD is shown in that movie cooking a cat up for dinner by skilleting it up Cuban style with onions.

Did PETA complain?

419 ryannon  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:47:18pm

re: #97 Alouette

Like this Ralph Lauren Photoshop disaster?


"Dude, her head's bigger than her pelvis."

Ya' think?

420 CaptObviousman  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:47:56pm

re: #407 bloodstar

and Barr was sadly... too uninteresting to really catch fire last election.

Yes, I was very disappointed in this as well. He was still the lesser of the many evils. Maybe we'll nominate someone people actually care about in the next election.

421 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:48:57pm

One of the people who just registered ("MortonMadsen") has just been blocked, after immediately coming out as a fascist sympathizer.

422 Only The Lurker Knows  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:49:20pm

bbiaw. errands to run that I have been putting off all day.

423 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:49:36pm

re: #374 Walter L. Newton

Yea, it's 27 degrees, and heavy clouds, but only a light snow. Was suppose to be 1-2 inches, but right now it doesn't look like that's going to happen.

I take this comment back, it's not flurries now, it's heavy snow, yuck.

424 SixDegrees  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:49:57pm

re: #291 dahveed

I, for one, just bought some shares in a gold ETF. I might as well take advantage of the current gold rage. May even put a few extra worthless dollars in my pocket.

I was thinking of doing the same, but I'm looking to short gold. The sudden upsurge in interest is suggesting a bubble that's ready to burst. I haven't quite convinced myself of this yet, but there's little doubt that a lot of the price movement is speculative rather than fundamental.

425 erraticsphinx  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:50:42pm

re: #402 Charles

There is literally no reason or defense to this law. And these are the same people, I guarantee, that are at tea parties bleating about government run this and that.

"Extreme Social conservatism will eventually be a huge electoral loser, and will lead to the destruction by self-immolation of the party that supports it. Let he without sin cast the first stone."

erraticsphinxodamus

426 theheat  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:50:58pm

re: #392 erraticsphinx

What crazy cruel bullshit. What's next, the resurrection of the Salem witch trials?

They are gone so far over the line, they are never coming back. Never.

427 lone_wolf_in_illinois  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:51:13pm

re: #423 Walter L. Newton

I used to live out in Delta County and I miss seeing the snow level drop in elevation every day durng the fall as the aspens turn red, gold and yellow.

428 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:51:26pm

re: #416 theheat

(Pardon if I missed this already upthread) How stick people became extinct (NSFW).

Well, now I've seen everything.

429 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:51:48pm

re: #407 bloodstar

That I had to google to figure out it was He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Mentioned-Really-I-Mean-It should say something.

He has Libertarian tendencies, but at *best* he was utterly negligent in surrounding himself with racists and crackpots, and at worst was in bed with them (I'm not sure which would be worse in my eyes). HWMNBMRIMI has given Libertarianism a black eye. and Barr was sadly... too uninteresting to really catch fire last election.

Luap Nor has given black eyes to two parties, then.

Are you an Isolationist? Is that a standard part of Libertarianism?

430 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:52:44pm

re: #427 lone_wolf_in_illinois

I used to live out in Delta County and I miss seeing the snow level drop in elevation every day durng the fall as the aspens turn red, gold and yellow.

Well, after 20 years in Colorado, this will be my first winter at 8200 feet, so, I am not really looking forward to the big dumps that we will get, other than that, it's wonderful up here.

431 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:52:51pm

Down with both major political parties. Pffiibbittth.™

432 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:52:52pm

Time to go to dinner.

433 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:54:09pm

re: #421 Charles

One of the people who just registered ("MortonMadsen") has just been blocked, after immediately coming out as a fascist sympathizer.

Did Stinky use a bundle of sticks on him?

434 Locker  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:54:14pm

re: #431 Ojoe

Down with both major political parties. Pffiibbittth.™

Bad is good! Down with government! - Evil Midnight Bomber

435 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:54:15pm

re: #409 Charles

And it's a prelude to what?

It can't be good.

436 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:54:16pm

re: #409 Charles

The right wing has gone insane. That's what's happening.

Seems that way, doesn't it?
I also wonder what percentage of his viewers/listeners don't really agree with the garbage he spouts, so much as they are entertained and even mesmerized by his antics.

437 lone_wolf_in_illinois  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:54:20pm

re: #430 Walter L. Newton

re: #427 lone_wolf_in_illinois


Well, after 20 years in Colorado, this will be my first winter at 8200 feet, so, I am not really looking forward to the big dumps that we will get, other than that, it's wonderful up here.

It is funny how the forecast is given by elevation, not by area like the rest of the country!

438 Dahveed  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:54:23pm

re: #421 Charles

One of the people who just registered ("MortonMadsen") has just been blocked, after immediately coming out as a fascist sympathizer.

Do they think you are asleep at the wheel? That you just won't notice? What possesses a person to post here of all places? There are plenty of neo-nazi sites they can post their lame thoughts to. Why come here?

439 shutdown  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:54:41pm

re: #409 Charles

The right wing has gone insane. That's what's happening.

The right wing has not gone insane, they have simply kept on marching in a straight line towards the extreme wing of Republican philosophy. In other words, this is not some sort of evolution, it is a result of conscious choice and managerial fiat in the face of extremely active conservative religious political groupings. The primary votes available from the religious hyper-right are an irresistible magnet to the bulk of party conservatives. Unfortunately, their idea of a course correction is to inject their own peculiar brand of insanity into public discourse in an attempt to discredit the President and Democrats, rather than rationally criticize their nonsensical policies. Because that would be too much work and assume that they trust the American public to think instead of act out of affect.

440 SixDegrees  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:54:48pm

re: #395 Spare O'Lake

Crazy Like A Fox Alert:

How can someone who is this insane be this popular? Beck is more than twice as popular as his competition combined. And his loony radio show draws 9,000,000+ listeners - also wildly successful.
WTF is happening?

Partly because a lot of his listeners are there for the sideshow. I've mentioned before that a small gaggle of leftward coworkers gathers around the water cooler to guffaw over the previous day's spewing and slobbering, and heap ridicule upon him. Beck is their confirmation that the right is uniformly crazy. He comforts them.

441 shutdown  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:55:24pm

re: #424 SixDegrees

I was thinking of doing the same, but I'm looking to short gold. The sudden upsurge in interest is suggesting a bubble that's ready to burst. I haven't quite convinced myself of this yet, but there's little doubt that a lot of the price movement is speculative rather than fundamental.

As always, both of these strategies are dependent on investment time horizons.

442 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:56:16pm

re: #434 Locker

Ironically, what we need is government, in the good sense of that word.

443 gregb  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:56:19pm

re: #428 MandyManners

Well, now I've seen everything.

[Link: xkcd.com...]

444 erraticsphinx  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:57:14pm

re: #426 theheat

It's definitely too late for the unfortunate marriage of the GOP and the dominionists. They're all that's left.

445 Dreader1962  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:58:23pm

What's the purpose of the Drudge Report showing a title of 'DRUDGE REPORT 2010(R)'? Does he go by the federal fiscal year or something?

The currency story was promoted by his site and Fox; thinly sourced. I would hope that someone from the FTC is looking at any collusion to 'force' the market.

446 shutdown  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:58:49pm

re: #444 erraticsphinx

It's definitely too late for the unfortunate marriage of the GOP and the dominionists. They're all that's left.

I used to play dominions with my little sister. But we could never agree on the rules, and some of the little tiles went missing, and - oh, wait, never mind.

447 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:59:11pm

re: #421 Charles

One of the people who just registered ("MortonMadsen") has just been blocked, after immediately coming out as a fascist sympathizer.

These types must have a thing for pain, trying to register here.

448 SixDegrees  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 2:59:44pm

re: #392 erraticsphinx

Social conservatives gone wild:

Nanny state!!

Ugh.

Until this law is struck down, I would encourage patients to lie. Through their teeth. I'd like to see that website packed with 73 year old Tuvaluvans. They may be able to coerce doctors to collect and report such information - for a while - but they can't force the patients to be accurate.

449 Dahveed  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:00:35pm

re: #424 SixDegrees

I was struggling with that as well. But I see this as a bubble in the short term and a long term investment. For me, just listening to several economists leads me to think the dollar is not very attractive and the flght will be to gold.

450 Locker  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:00:46pm

re: #442 Ojoe

Ironically, what we need is government, in the good sense of that word.

Hehe I agree it just makes me laugh every time I read your quote. Then I immediately hear the Midnight Bomber trying to pass himself off as a part time electrician and failing because he is so filled with joy about being a bad guy that he just can't contain himself.

451 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:01:14pm

re: #445 Dreader1962

What's the purpose of the Drudge Report showing a title of 'DRUDGE REPORT 2010(R)'? Does he go by the federal fiscal year or something?

The currency story was promoted by his site and Fox; thinly sourced. I would hope that someone from the FTC is looking at any collusion to 'force' the market.

Thinly sourced? The source was Robert Fisk at the Independent. Whether Fisk was right or wrong, wouldn't he be considered a major source? Maybe I'm wrong.

452 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:02:53pm

re: #451 Walter L. Newton

Thinly sourced? The source was Robert Fisk at the Independent. Whether Fisk was right or wrong, wouldn't he be considered a major source? Maybe I'm wrong.

You're wrong. Robert Fisk is a 9/11 Truther and has promoted many outright lies in his columns.

It's pathetic to see the same right wingers who bashed Fisk relentlessly for years, now taking his word for this patently ridiculous story.

453 Randall Gross  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:03:25pm

Before everyone goes off the deep end about the OK abortion reporting laws please keep in mind that many states already report by county, and that these stats are useful. We used some of them in many threads combating the agitprop of abortion terrorist supporter's bogus claims as to how many abortions Dr. Tiller had performed.

Here's the typical clinic reporting form(this one from 1998,) and many of the "bulk stats by county" are available online.

The telling point is how contemporaneous with the abortion does the stat need to be made public? Anyone know? If it's like next day, that's obviously wrong, once a quarter, once a year?

454 Gus  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:03:37pm

re: #392 erraticsphinx

Social conservatives gone wild:

Nanny state!!

What are they nuts? That's insanity.

A new Oklahoma law requires physicians to disclose detailed information on women's abortions to the State's Department Of Health, which will then post the collected data on a public website. The controversial measure comes into effect on November 1 and will cost $281,285 to implement, $256,285 each subsequent year to maintain.

Oklahoma women undergoing abortion procedures will be legally forced to reveal:

1) Date of abortion
2) County in which abortion is performed
3) Age of mother
4) Marital status of mother
5) Race of mother
6) Years of education of mother
7) State or foreign country of residence of mother
8) Total number of previous pregnancies of the mother

455 erraticsphinx  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:04:12pm

re: #448 SixDegrees

I agree, until this law is struck down (which it will be), doctors and patients should be doing everything to find a way around it.

But at least now more people see the truly hideous, hypocritical, spiteful and mean spirited face of that movement.

456 shutdown  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:04:19pm

[Link: www.tagesanzeiger.ch...]
I don't know if anybody here speaks German. But the clip is amusing, in that the word "phishing" is substitute by "fisting" in the on air report. Apparently much to the consternation of the viewing public. Made most major papers; this is one of the most watched newscasts in German-speaking Europe.

457 Dreader1962  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:05:11pm

re: #451 Walter L. Newton

Thinly sourced? The source was Robert Fisk at the Independent. Whether Fisk was right or wrong, wouldn't he be considered a major source? Maybe I'm wrong.

Yes, but apparently Fisk didn't source what he reported.

Check this out:

Politico: Whodunit?

Fisk’s story itself isn’t much help in solving the mystery — it is sourced vaguely to “Gulf Arab and Chinese banking sources in Hong Kong,” and it included one blind quote, attributed to “a prominent Hong Kong broker.” That doesn’t narrow down the pool very much.

To be fair, Drudge has this article on his site, but that could just be continued self-promotion.

458 Randall Gross  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:05:36pm

re: #452 Charles

You're wrong. Robert Fisk is a 9/11 Truther and has promoted many outright lies in his columns.

It's pathetic to see the same right wingers who bashed Fisk relentlessly for years, now taking his word for this patently ridiculous story.

Yep, everyone's forgotten the annual Fiskie awards and the origination of the term "Fisking" already?

459 Randall Gross  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:07:19pm

/pimf "anti-abortion terrorist" meaning Scott Roeder

460 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:07:52pm

re: #452 Charles

You're wrong. Robert Fisk is a 9/11 Truther and has promoted many outright lies in his columns.

It's pathetic to see the same right wingers who bashed Fisk relentlessly for years, now taking his word for this patently ridiculous story.

That's why I asked Charles. I don't have a scorecard on every reporter and the validity of every source etc. All I see is "Independent" and "Robert Fisk" and that doesn't jump out at me as being "thinly sourced."

Thanks for the information.

461 Randall Gross  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:08:32pm

State of Kansas 2007 stats

462 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:08:33pm

re: #458 Thanos

Yep, everyone's forgotten the annual Fiskie awards and the origination of the term "Fisking" already?

That's why I like working at places which has one wear a photo-ID badge clipped to the shirt. At my age, it's a helluva help when I need to "re-boot".

/heh

463 TheMatrix31  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:08:46pm

LOL @ Detroit.

464 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:08:47pm

re: #457 Dreader1962

To be fair, Drudge has this article on his site, but that could just be continued self-promotion.

That's why I have been asking. Wanted information.

465 SixDegrees  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:09:20pm

re: #441 imp_62

As always, both of these strategies are dependent on investment time horizons.

Shorting, in my view, is always speculative, which itself is inherently short term. It's little more than a roll of the dice in hopes of making a quick score, not a reasoned, long-term decision.

As long as anyone shorting keeps that in mind, and doesn't mind losing the money they put up, all should be well.

466 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:09:42pm

re: #453 Thanos

Before everyone goes off the deep end about the OK abortion reporting laws please keep in mind that many states already report by county, and that these stats are useful. We used some of them in many threads combating the agitprop of abortion terrorist supporter's bogus claims as to how many abortions Dr. Tiller had performed.

Here's the typical clinic reporting form(this one from 1998,) and many of the "bulk stats by county" are available online.

The telling point is how contemporaneous with the abortion does the stat need to be made public? Anyone know? If it's like next day, that's obviously wrong, once a quarter, once a year?

This law appears to go quite a bit farther down the road of intrusion into personal lives:

[Link: www.sos.state.ok.us...] (PDF)

467 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:11:48pm

re: #452 Charles

You're wrong. Robert Fisk is a 9/11 Truther and has promoted many outright lies in his columns.

It's pathetic to see the same right wingers who bashed Fisk relentlessly for years, now taking his word for this patently ridiculous story.

And just as an aside Charles, I've said it before, but I don't really hang out at any other blogs, so some of these names and associations slide right past me. I've been satisfied with LGF for years, so I don't go trolling around, or whoring at other sites.

So there are things I don't know, and when I ask, I am not trying to start something, I'm trying to learn.

468 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:11:55pm

re: #452 Charles

You're wrong. Robert Fisk is a 9/11 Truther and has promoted many outright lies in his columns.

It's pathetic to see the same right wingers who bashed Fisk relentlessly for years, now taking his word for this patently ridiculous story.

Fisk has a lot of friends and contacts among middle eastern money-people. Our mutual friends, the Saudis, are notably fond of holding large amounts of gold, a tendency they share with the Paulian gold-bugs in this country. It's ironic, not to mention sinister, that so much of the right now shares a tool with foreign terrorist sympathizers.

469 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:13:18pm

re: #468 Shiplord Kirel

Fisk has a lot of friends and contacts among middle eastern money-people. Our mutual friends, the Saudis, are notably fond of holding large amounts of gold, a tendency they share with the Paulian gold-bugs in this country. It's ironic, not to mention sinister, that so much of the right now shares a tool with foreign terrorist sympathizers.

What are you referring to "tool?"

470 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:13:47pm

re: #469 Walter L. Newton

What are you referring to "tool?"

Fisk himself.

471 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:14:05pm

re: #470 Shiplord Kirel

Fisk himself.

Oh. Ok.

472 ryannon  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:14:19pm

re: #235 John Neverbend

Wake up! Here's a 7-8th grade math problem. Order the following 3 numbers from lowest to highest. Show working. Do not use a calculator.

1. 3^34
2. 15!
3. 2^51

For the uninitiated, a^b means a raised to the power of b. 15! is 15x14x13x12x...x3x2x1, but you knew that.

Answer: Ron Paul

473 ryannon  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:15:31pm

re: #472 ryannon

Answer: Ron Paul

Do I win a Kruggerrand?

474 erraticsphinx  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:16:04pm

re: #466 Charles

Woah, it's even more sickening that I thought. Page 10...wtf?
It's not statistics, its propaganda and intimidation.

475 Randall Gross  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:16:33pm

re: #466 Charles

This law appears to go quite a bit farther down the road of intrusion into personal lives:

[Link: www.sos.state.ok.us...] (PDF)

Yep, reading more of the law it's ridiculous. They are going to post each form instead of bulk up and report stats, and it appears that it's necessary to do it by the end of the month the abortion was performed in. There's also required reporting on any "complications" which is a vehicle for the Bloody Randall Terry types to do their hysterical political theater every time a form with complications appears. This is going to be ugly if it stands.

476 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:18:27pm

re: #467 Walter L. Newton

And just as an aside Charles, I've said it before, but I don't really hang out at any other blogs, so some of these names and associations slide right past me. I've been satisfied with LGF for years, so I don't go trolling around, or whoring at other sites.

So there are things I don't know, and when I ask, I am not trying to start something, I'm trying to learn.

I wasn't directing the pathetic comment at you -- it's at Drudge Report and all the bloggers who are jumping on this story because it fits the new meme of wanting Obama to fail. If America fails, they're fine with that too as long as Obama goes down.

477 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:19:41pm

re: #476 Charles

I wasn't directing the pathetic comment at you -- it's at Drudge Report and all the bloggers who are jumping on this story because it fits the new meme of wanting Obama to fail. If America fails, they're fine with that too as long as Obama goes down.

Got it.

478 Dreader1962  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:20:38pm

re: #476 Charles

I wasn't directing the pathetic comment at you -- it's at Drudge Report and all the bloggers who are jumping on this story because it fits the new meme of wanting Obama to fail. If America fails, they're fine with that too as long as Obama goes down.

The best comparison is the right-wing drilling holes in the bottom of the ship and then gloating as the captain goes down with the ship. Of course these idiots envision themselves safely in the lifeboats as the ship sinks. We unfortunates in steerage are screwed, though.

479 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:20:59pm

The Talking Piano

Liveleak Video

The people are speaking German but the piano speaks English.

480 Taqyia2Me  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:21:28pm

re: #476 Charles

I wasn't directing the pathetic comment at you -- it's at Drudge Report and all the bloggers who are jumping on this story because it fits the new meme of wanting Obama to fail. If America fails, they're fine with that too as long as Obama goes down.

After the last eight years of eating that, imho, one would think the right would NEVER do ANYBODY like that.

481 fizzlogic  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:22:07pm

Hamas bans women on motorcycles in Gaza Strip

In a decision which would raise eyebrows in Rome or Rio de Janeiro, the Interior Ministry said it was banning women from riding two-wheelers or being pillion passengers, to limit accidents and to "protect community values."
...
Human Rights groups say Hamas is gradually imposing a strict Islamic code on the 1.5 million Palestinians of Gaza.

482 shutdown  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:24:29pm

re: #465 SixDegrees

Shorting, in my view, is always speculative, which itself is inherently short term. It's little more than a roll of the dice in hopes of making a quick score, not a reasoned, long-term decision.

As long as anyone shorting keeps that in mind, and doesn't mind losing the money they put up, all should be well.

It can be part of a hedge, in which case it loses some of its stand-alone speculative nature.

483 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:25:24pm

re: #478 Dreader1962

The best comparison is the right-wing drilling holes in the bottom of the ship and then gloating as the captain goes down with the ship. Of course these idiots envision themselves safely in the lifeboats as the ship sinks. We unfortunates in steerage are screwed, though.

For years now, various fever swamp celebrities, from Gary North to Glenn Beck, have urged the gullible to tailor their investments and other personal planning essentially to profit from what they see as a coming decline or even collapse in this country's economy. This has become virtually an economic subculture, a huge vested interest in this country's failure. The Glenn Beck gold bugs are ecstatic over the anti-dollar conspiracy story and its immediate effect on the price of gold.

484 shutdown  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:26:33pm

re: #468 Shiplord Kirel

Fisk has a lot of friends and contacts among middle eastern money-people. Our mutual friends, the Saudis, are notably fond of holding large amounts of gold, a tendency they share with the Paulian gold-bugs in this country. It's ironic, not to mention sinister, that so much of the right now shares a tool with foreign terrorist sympathizers.

The Saudis have to be very careful about the value of the dollar. I am always skeptical of reprts which claim they are in some organized way speculating on the value of the dollar beyond hedging oil profits.

485 rurality  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:29:15pm

Moved from Manhattan to a farm in Illinois 20 years ago--corn and soybeans. This area is very Republican, church going and racist and I'm none of the aforementioned and have become pretty intolerant of the first two, always totally intolerant of racists. First 5-10 years here people would apologize if they slipped and said the "N" word around me, cause they knew I "didnt like it." I vote the person, but other than my ex-congressman Ray LaHood, it's been a while since I voted for a Republican. I was/am an early Kos member, tho chronic lurker--I'm zeal deficient. Read Huff and Andrew Sullivan, NYTimes, TPM, Washington Monthly on line daily and in the last few months LGF. I went to Red State, Ace, etc. trying to figure out what was making the right so crazed. It just seemed from the instant Obama took office, Republicans in Congress became petulant and lazy and the right, delusional and hysterical. Anyway, I came to LGF and saw a site that was wrestling with what had been its perceived identity and refusing to follow other conservative sites into lying, bigotry and misinformation. Charles was working hard to maintain rational, factual discourse and I found this fascinating to watch and very inspirational. I had really come to feel that power and money had totally trumped honesty and integrity in the Republican party/right. The zero tolerance for chummy racism or any sort of racism and Charles' fight against 'deniers' of both Global Warming and Evolution made me feel comfortable and hopeful. I'm not sure I can add anything to the conversations here, but since I have been moved and encouraged by the people at LGF I wanted to be able to chime in, if for no other reason than to say, thanks.

486 shutdown  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:29:56pm

I was just noticing you get updinged for the most curious things here. There is no real rhyme or reason; a thought or sense of humour which gets an upding in one thread gets you multi-downdinged in another. Damn you independent thinkers!

487 shutdown  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:30:59pm

re: #485 rurality

Updinged for honesty.

488 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:31:40pm

re: #485 rurality

I'm not sure I can add anything to the conversations here

I think you already did a good job of that. Welcome to LGF.

489 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:31:45pm

re: #453 Thanos

Before everyone goes off the deep end about the OK abortion reporting laws please keep in mind that many states already report by county, and that these stats are useful. We used some of them in many threads combating the agitprop of abortion terrorist supporter's bogus claims as to how many abortions Dr. Tiller had performed.

Here's the typical clinic reporting form(this one from 1998,) and many of the "bulk stats by county" are available online.

The telling point is how contemporaneous with the abortion does the stat need to be made public? Anyone know? If it's like next day, that's obviously wrong, once a quarter, once a year?

Do states currently make individual records available, or do they compile stats by county?

490 shutdown  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:31:58pm

re: #485 rurality

Sit down and stay a while. Have a drink. I insist.

491 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:32:47pm

re: #454 Gus 802

Also, will this be released AS compiled statistics, or as searchable records?

492 Achilles Tang  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:33:13pm

I accidentally caught the tail end of Beck a while ago. (take that as you will)

Seems the word of the times is "vigilance", and be assured that there is nothing to this rumor that Swine Flu vaccination will be injecting a government RFID tag into you (but wouldn't it be terrible if Hitler had that technology?).

He says;
Nevertheless, even though "I" can't find any government contracts for this technology, wink wink, we must be vigilant.

This asshole is getting worse by the day and unless we find a vaccination for him, I fear there are millions of other assholes who will become infected with the same virus, probably manufactured in a FOX News lab somewhere.

493 shutdown  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:34:26pm

re: #491 SanFranciscoZionist

Also, will this be released AS compiled statistics, or as searchable records?

Part of the issue is that once individual, severable records exist in some data silo, they are attainable at some point unde some law, even if as yet unwritten. Privacy unfortunately is much mere easily breached, than repaired.

494 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:34:38pm

re: #429 wrenchwench

Luap Nor has given black eyes to two parties, then.

Are you an Isolationist? Is that a standard part of Libertarianism?

The best answer I can give is the following, sometimes idealism has to take a back seat to pragmatism. I think isolationism is a wing of the Libertarian party, but it's not my wing. Personally, I think we overstretched ourselves the last several years, and I think we tried to do too much at once without making the economic commitment that would be needed to fight 2 regional conflicts at the same time. (that whole guns vs butter argument)

I'm not isolationist, I think we just need to pick our battles carefully.

495 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:34:43pm

re: #486 imp_62

I was just noticing you get updinged for the most curious things here. There is no real rhyme or reason; a thought or sense of humour which gets an upding in one thread gets you multi-downdinged in another. Damn you independent thinkers!

The dings are basically a way of expressing one's whims.

496 Gus  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:34:47pm

re: #491 SanFranciscoZionist

Also, will this be released AS compiled statistics, or as searchable records?

I don't know and can only guess that it will be searchable.

497 shutdown  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:36:11pm

re: #495 SanFranciscoZionist

The dings are basically a way of expressing one's whims.

Where my granddparents were born, you did that kind of thing in the privacy of your own bedroom. If at all.

498 shutdown  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:37:26pm

Off to make dinner. Back later.

499 Taqyia2Me  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:38:52pm

re: #485 rurality

I do feel, like in Illinois over the last 6+ years, Repubs have been shut out of any meaningful negotiation re: legislation on the federal level.

RE: global warming, I question the direction the debate is going because there has been no major rush to make a huge leap in the direction of more nuke power...it pisses me off because it looks like just another $ grab, lust for political power grab...

500 Digital Display  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:39:13pm

re: #485 rurality

Moved from California to a farm house in Illinois Indiana 20 several years ago--corn and soybeans. This area is very Republican, church going and racist and I'm none of the aforementioned..
Friggin A! I have posted here before.. There is a deep under seated root of Racism in Indiana... Hang out at my here at a club or drinking hole and it's only whites around..You'll know exactly what I mean.. N-word this N-word that.. It's fucking Disgusting...I know now why the KKK started here...
There are many reasons to love this State..There are many reasons to hate this place...

501 Achilles Tang  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:39:58pm

re: #486 imp_62

I was just noticing you get updinged for the most curious things here. There is no real rhyme or reason; a thought or sense of humour which gets an upding in one thread gets you multi-downdinged in another. Damn you independent thinkers!

If you could read minds, you would understand. It also helps to read threads, because if you don't understand a ding it's because you don't understand the context, or the particular sense of humor, or lack thereof.

Personally I seldom downding, but I will up if it is clever and agreed with, or if it doesn't really need an answer but warrants an acknowledgement that it has been read.

Do what seems right to you. If it doesn't seem right to others you will be notified one way or another. :)

502 Digital Display  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:42:10pm

re: #500 HoosierHoops

Whoops..I totally messed that post up..Dang it!
Anyhoo.. I was trying to show a similarity of our experience..You from NY and me from California live by each other...
Some newbe lizard grab me a Bud Light!

503 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:43:17pm

re: #492 Naso Tang

I accidentally caught the tail end of Beck a while ago. (take that as you will)

Seems the word of the times is "vigilance", and be assured that there is nothing to this rumor that Swine Flu vaccination will be injecting a government RFID tag into you (but wouldn't it be terrible if Hitler had that technology?).

He says;
Nevertheless, even though "I" can't find any government contracts for this technology, wink wink, we must be vigilant.

This asshole is getting worse by the day and unless we find a vaccination for him, I fear there are millions of other assholes who will become infected with the same virus, probably manufactured in a FOX News lab somewhere.

I heard it is a Soros-financed plot to drive the entire centre right into the Dem camp./

504 UP Border Collie  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:45:15pm

OH!!! And I so wanted to comment!!! But, by the time I got done reading the thread and linking to sites (OK law is NOT a good thing!), dinner is now ready and we are starving!


BBL!

505 rurality  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 3:50:34pm

Thank you very much for the welcomes! What is the opposite of 'savvy'? Slooow? Anyway, that's what I am on the computer, so will figure out the icons and direct ways to respond after I make dinner--Coq Au Vin--and will make a point Imp, to finish the bottle before completion. By the way, we have a '65 Hillman Imp in our barn.

506 The Shadow Do  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 4:01:16pm

re: #357 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Sorry it it's been posted already.

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama is prepared to accept some Taliban involvement in Afghanistan's political future and appears inclined to send only as many more U.S. troops as needed to keep al-Qaida at bay, a senior administration official said Thursday.


"Obama has conferred nearly every day this week on the war, and continued that Thursday afternoon with Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton."

Your national security military brain trust at work. Sleep well America.

507 Randall Gross  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 4:05:09pm

re: #489 SanFranciscoZionist

It's by county, aggregated numbers not individual forms

508 Coracle  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 4:08:35pm

re: #506 The Shadow Do

"Obama has conferred nearly every day this week on the war, and continued that Thursday afternoon with Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton."

Your national security military brain trust at work. Sleep well America.

So he didn't meet with his joint chiefs and military commanders earlier in the week? Wake up.

509 gregb  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 4:12:34pm

re: #478 Dreader1962

The best comparison is the right-wing drilling holes in the bottom of the ship and then gloating as the captain goes down with the ship. Of course these idiots envision themselves safely in the lifeboats as the ship sinks. We unfortunates in steerage are screwed, though.

Unfortunately, that's the same way I've felt about the lunatic left the past 8 years--economy, jobs, and national security be damned.

510 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 4:37:40pm

re: #506 The Shadow Do

Well we fight in Afghanistan, but we let our enemies have whole other countries as sanctuaries where they can raise any army, build any weapon, hatch any plot.

Sleep well indeed.

511 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 4:57:20pm

re: #494 bloodstar

Thanks for the answer. Luap Nor is scary. So far, you are not. :)

512 fire at night  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:33:50am

I registered a little while back. I had heard LGF mentioned before during the whole Rathergate scandal, and periodically checked in to see what the fuss was about, and found that I enjoyed the commentary. From time to time I would see links posted to or frontpaged elsewhere (namely Fark). I was lucky enough to spot open registration a month or so ago.

A bit about me I guess. Voted R in 2000, 2004, voted D for the first time last year. Socially liberal, but a bit on the fiscal side regarding gov't spending and initiatives (I know, how trendy.) Actively serving in the US military in a collection/interpretation & analysis function, used to fix airplanes before that.

Recently, I seem to be a bit disillusioned politically. Leaning more toward right leaning (I) rather than calling myself a conservative. Over the last few years, I just got a bit fed up with the social conservatives and neocons driving the Republican agenda, and deeming anyone who didn't agree with their position as a traitor or calling them un-American, while trying to repress any civil debate with personal rhetoric and smear tactics. Not really buying what the Left is selling at bargain discounts at other's expense these days either.

So far, I am liking what I read here daily. An emphasis seems to be placed on integrity, with facts & evidence presented driving the basis of a debate, rather than pure emotion or reactionary thoughts. I'm mostly a lurker, but plan on popping in from time to time.

/I bid you fellow Lizards a good night and good morning.


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