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1 Boogberg  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 11:44:47am

Awesome!

2 Boogberg  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 11:55:42am

Here's some retro keyboards for your enjoyment:

[Link: pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net...]

My mom was complaining because the keys were too close together on her HP computer keyboard. She was a typesetter back in the 80's. I think I'm gonna get her one of these. :)

3 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 11:56:21am

re: #2 Boogberg

Here's some retro keyboards for your enjoyment:

[Link: pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net...]

My mom was complaining because the keys were too close together on her HP computer keyboard. She was a typesetter back in the 80's. I think I'm gonna get her one of these. :)

I think I've dumped some cocoa in a few of those :)

4 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 11:58:22am
5 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:03:06pm

If anyone needs a laugh you can check out Allapundit combating ODS in the Haiti thread over at Hot Air.

6 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:05:06pm

BBIAB...

7 Boogberg  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:05:33pm

re: #3 EmmmieG

Lol! :D

Yep, I spilled a beer on my "modern" keyboard a couple days ago and killed it. I may get one of these for myself.

8 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:08:49pm

re: #5 Killgore Trout

If anyone needs a laugh you can check out Allapundit combating ODS in the Haiti thread over at Hot Air.

Obama doesn't care about white people.

/

9 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:12:01pm

re: #8 metrolibertarian

Obama doesn't care about white people.

/

Or iceberg lettuce. Can you imagine the damage he did to the iceberg lettuce market?

10 Kronocide  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:15:09pm

After the devastation wreaked upon the broccoli industry by GHWB, I cannot fathom the utter callous and carelessness by Obama in wreaking havoc upon the red, green, and iceberg lettuce industry by his advocacy of arugula.

11 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:15:32pm

re: #9 EmmmieG

Or iceberg lettuce. Can you imagine the damage he did to the iceberg lettuce market?

Yeah, my investment in arugula really has paid off.

12 Buck  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:16:19pm

Giving Unions a $60 billion tax break on the Cadillac insurance plans is nothing short of the biggest display of pure corruption so far by the Obama administration.

There is no good reason to give them this exemption, and not others. No reason EXCEPT the huge donations/ money given to Obama to help him get elected.

A special interest group gave Obama money, and gets paid back with tax money 1000 times. Right in front of everyone.

13 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:16:58pm

re: #10 BigPapa

After the devastation wreaked upon the broccoli industry by GHWB, I cannot fathom the utter callous and carelessness by Obama in wreaking havoc upon the red, green, and iceberg lettuce industry by his advocacy of arugula.

I just figure, it's a perk of office. You get to be president, you get to choose a vegetable to have a public opinion about.

14 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:17:10pm

re: #12 Buck

Giving Unions a $60 billion tax break on the Cadillac insurance plans is nothing short of the biggest display of pure corruption so far by the Obama administration.

There is no good reason to give them this exemption, and not others. No reason EXCEPT the huge donations/ money given to Obama to help him get elected.

A special interest group gave Obama money, and gets paid back with tax money 1000 times. Right in front of everyone.

Don't forget 2012.

15 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:17:55pm

re: #2 Boogberg

Here's some retro keyboards for your enjoyment:

[Link: pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net...]

My mom was complaining because the keys were too close together on her HP computer keyboard. She was a typesetter back in the 80's. I think I'm gonna get her one of these. :)

If I could get an old IBM Selectric typewriter keyboard to work with my iMac, that would be the coolest. That thing had best positive feedback feel of anything I've ever used.

16 Racer X  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:19:39pm

re: #12 Buck

Giving Unions a $60 billion tax break on the Cadillac insurance plans is nothing short of the biggest display of pure corruption so far by the Obama administration.

There is no good reason to give them this exemption, and not others. No reason EXCEPT the huge donations/ money given to Obama to help him get elected.

A special interest group gave Obama money, and gets paid back with tax money 1000 times. Right in front of everyone.

CHANGE!

17 simoom  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:19:42pm

re: #5 Killgore Trout

If anyone needs a laugh you can check out Allapundit combating ODS in the Haiti thread over at Hot Air.

Wow, maybe the old AP is back. Prior to the election I used to enjoy reading his push-back against anti-science, anti-atheists, etc. He also used to get into it with his readership over Sarah Palin.

18 Racer X  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:20:13pm

re: #16 Racer X

CHANGE!

. . . . and hope no one notices.

19 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:22:15pm

re: #12 Buck

Giving Unions a $60 billion tax break on the Cadillac insurance plans is nothing short of the biggest display of pure corruption so far by the Obama administration.

There is no good reason to give them this exemption, and not others. No reason EXCEPT the huge donations/ money given to Obama to help him get elected.

A special interest group gave Obama money, and gets paid back with tax money 1000 times. Right in front of everyone.

The Amish got an exemption too. Are you going to call that unfair?

20 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:22:40pm

re: #19 Walter L. Newton

The Amish got an exemption too. Are you going to call that unfair?

How much did they contribute to BHO?

21 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:23:03pm

re: #12 Buck

I'm going to take advantage of all the loopholes
A) move to nebraska
B) join a union
C-Z) TBD !

22 SixDegrees  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:23:05pm

re: #2 Boogberg

Here's some retro keyboards for your enjoyment:

[Link: pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net...]

My mom was complaining because the keys were too close together on her HP computer keyboard. She was a typesetter back in the 80's. I think I'm gonna get her one of these. :)

I just recently bought one of these, and it is the most awesome keyboard to type on, ever. Long key travel; large, well, spaced keys; probably too loud for an office filled with keyboards, but the sound is also an aid to accurate typing, at least for old-schoolers like me. And it's heavy enough to stun an ox with, should you suddenly be surprised by one in a threatening way.

The same model has a surprising following in the used market, with many decades-old versions still in daily use. The modern one is built to the same plan and standards, and has the advantage of a USB connection.

Highly recommended.

23 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:23:06pm

re: #20 MandyManners

How much did they contribute to BHO?

It doesn't matter. They got an exemption too, is that unfair?

24 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:23:10pm

re: #15 Cato the Elder

If I could get an old IBM Selectric typewriter keyboard to work with my iMac, that would be the coolest. That thing had best positive feedback feel of anything I've ever used.

That would be truly awesome.

25 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:23:13pm

re: #17 simoom

AP sez.....

It’s amazing to me how quick some people are to try to treat me as a lefty troll when I say one word in defense of Obama, as if I don’t spend 12-14 hours a day blogging about his mistakes and dumb policies.

The bottom line: Some people will never credit a president from the other party, no matter what he does, because the number of things they disagree is vastly greater than the opposite. The left has endless numbers of people like that too, as we saw only too clearly over the last eight years. Oh well.


He has to realize that his readers are irrational and it's probably frustrating but Hot Air feeds them a constant diet of stories about how evil Obama is. What does he expect?

26 Boogberg  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:23:22pm

re: #15 Cato the Elder

Is that the one with the ball? Those things were awesome! Call the company I linked to. They may have what you're looking for. I'm calling them Monday.

27 Racer X  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:23:22pm

re: #19 Walter L. Newton

The Amish got an exemption too. Are you going to call that unfair?

Why did they get an exemption?

28 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:23:49pm

re: #21 sattv4u2

I'm going to take advantage of all the loopholes
A) move to nebraska
B) join a union
C-Z) TBD !

C. Become Amish.

29 Buck  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:25:25pm

re: #14 MandyManners

Don't forget 2012.

Democrats new slogan...."Bought and Paid for"

30 SixDegrees  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:25:35pm

re: #12 Buck

Giving Unions a $60 billion tax break on the Cadillac insurance plans is nothing short of the biggest display of pure corruption so far by the Obama administration.

There is no good reason to give them this exemption, and not others. No reason EXCEPT the huge donations/ money given to Obama to help him get elected.

A special interest group gave Obama money, and gets paid back with tax money 1000 times. Right in front of everyone.

I can only agree. And it's apparently just the beginning. There are rumblings from the pharmaceutical industry threatening to drop their support of the health care bill unless they get "special" consideration for their name-brand products and pricing.

The floodgates are only just beginning to open.

31 Racer X  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:26:00pm

Why did the unions get an exemption?
vs.
Why did the Amish get an exemption?

Honest question - anyone know?

32 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:26:12pm

re: #21 sattv4u2

I'm going to take advantage of all the loopholes
A) move to nebraska
B) join a union
C) become Amish
D-Z) TBD !

!!!!

33 Boogberg  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:27:34pm

re: #22 SixDegrees

That's good to know, Six. Now I'm definitely getting one! :)

34 Buck  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:27:58pm

re: #19 Walter L. Newton

The Amish got an exemption too. Are you going to call that unfair?

The Amish's Cadillac plans are not going to be taxed the same 40%?

I didn't know that.

35 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:28:00pm

Gotta' chop my chicken.

36 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:28:07pm

re: #28 SanFranciscoZionist

Thanks ,, updated in #32

NOW ,, where do I get a buggy !?!?!

37 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:28:24pm

re: #34 Buck

The Amish's Cadillac plans are not going to be taxed the same 40%?

I didn't know that.

is that what you kids call in nowadays !?!?

38 SixDegrees  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:28:28pm

re: #19 Walter L. Newton

The Amish got an exemption too. Are you going to call that unfair?

The deal with the unions wiped out nearly half the projected "savings" of the bill in a single stroke, in order to allow union members to keep their $24000 per year health care plans tax free.

Looks like the pharmaceutical companies are going to be making their own demands in exchange for pricing support, next.

39 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:28:41pm

re: #35 MandyManners

Gotta' chop my chicken.

is that what you kids call in nowadays !?!?

40 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:28:56pm

re: #22 SixDegrees

I just recently bought one of these, and it is the most awesome keyboard to type on, ever. Long key travel; large, well, spaced keys; probably too loud for an office filled with keyboards, but the sound is also an aid to accurate typing, at least for old-schoolers like me. And it's heavy enough to stun an ox with, should you suddenly be surprised by one in a threatening way.

The same model has a surprising following in the used market, with many decades-old versions still in daily use. The modern one is built to the same plan and standards, and has the advantage of a USB connection.

Highly recommended.

I sell all the used keyboards you want for 2.99 serial or USB, 3.99 for wireless (infrared and bluetooth) at the thrift store. That's how I price them. When I went to work there three weeks ago, the prices were all over the place, 1.99 up to 9.99. After seeing how many used keyboards were coming in from the route trucks and donation station behind the store, I decided to generalize the price. I've sold more by standardizing the price then they have in the past.

My job includes pricing for furniture, electronics, spots and seasonal items, appliances (toasters to washers/dryers), electric health care products, bicycles, office furniture and assorted misc.

41 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:29:03pm

re: #34 Buck

Sorry ,,, 37 was meant for Mandys 35

42 simoom  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:30:08pm

re: #25 Killgore Trout

There's the one commenter who always writes, "Precedent" instead of "President". Often multiple times in a single post. I see his comments nearly every time I'm over there.

I don't know why, but it drives me crazy :P.

43 SixDegrees  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:30:27pm

re: #31 Racer X

Why did the unions get an exemption?
vs.
Why did the Amish get an exemption?

Honest question - anyone know?

The Amish were exempted from purchasing otherwise mandatory coverage on religious freedom grounds. The unions got their exemption after they threatened to withdraw political support from any Democrats voting for a measure that would tax their member's medical benefits on plans costing over $24000 per year.

44 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:30:39pm

re: #27 Racer X

Why did they get an exemption?

Because they don't like to rely on the government for services, religious reasons.

45 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:31:15pm

re: #44 Walter L. Newton

Because they don't like to rely on the government for services, religious reasons.

Why would that prevent them from buying coverage from a private company?

46 keloyd  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:31:46pm

re: #2 Boogberg

I'm still holding out for a Max Headroom keyboard. Those of you with a comic-book-store-guy-from-the-Simpsons memory for such things will know he had an antique manual typewriter that interfaced with his computer. I want keys you have to press down like an inch, and with some effort, and to keep that noise and mechanical feel.

Ironically, in a future dystopia where computers and corporate feudalism is all around, there was not one mouse anywhere, ever.

/this message brought to you by the Zik-Zak corporation
//"know future"

47 Buck  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:31:51pm

re: #31 Racer X

Why did the unions get an exemption?
vs.
Why did the Amish get an exemption?

Honest question - anyone know?

Walter is changing the subject. It isn't the same thing at all.

The Amish are exempt from being forced to BUY insurance because they self insure. They also don't have to pay into social security (and can't claim), because they take care of their own retirement/welfare.

The Unions got a special 60 billion dollar tax break because they have representation in Washington, and you don't.

48 Racer X  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:32:10pm

re: #43 SixDegrees
re: #44 Walter L. Newton

Thanks!

I'm totally OK with the Amish exemptions.

Can someone explain to me why the union exemption is cool?

49 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:32:34pm

re: #31 Racer X

Why did the unions get an exemption?
vs.
Why did the Amish get an exemption?

Honest question - anyone know?

Because the Amish will seriously fuck you up if you mess with them, dude. Next question?

50 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:32:37pm

re: #45 SanFranciscoZionist

Why would that prevent them from buying coverage from a private company?

Doesn't,, but they don;'t want to be MANDATED to buy insurance at all.
No mandate, no ins
No ins, no excise tax
Non compliance with the 'mandate", no fine

WIN/WIN

51 Racer X  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:33:19pm

re: #49 Cato the Elder

Because the Amish will seriously fuck you up if you mess with them, dude. Next question?

*spew*

*cleans off monitor*

52 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:33:48pm

re: #48 Racer X

re: #44 Walter L. Newton

Thanks!

I'm totally OK with the Amish exemptions.

Can someone explain to me why the union exemption is cool?

Because they want them.

53 SixDegrees  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:33:57pm

re: #46 keloyd

I'm still holding out for a Max Headroom keyboard. Those of you with a comic-book-store-guy-from-the-Simpsons memory for such things will know he had an antique manual typewriter that interfaced with his computer. I want keys you have to press down like an inch, and with some effort, and to keep that noise and mechanical feel.

Ironically, in a future dystopia where computers and corporate feudalism is all around, there was not one mouse anywhere, ever.

/this message brought to you by the Zik-Zak corporation
//"know future"

Check this one out. Scroll down to the bottom to see the finished product.

Some people have too much time on their hands.

54 keloyd  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:36:02pm

31, 43
The Amish and many Muslims object to insurance on principal. It is akin to gambling, which is verboten, though Islamic banking institutions have workarounds, and certain Muslims who I know, but won't name names, think Imams are making a bit of a stretch and don't worry about it. They have mortgages, fire insurance, and car insurance just like everyone else.

55 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:37:36pm

re: #49 Cato the Elder

Because the Amish will seriously fuck you up if you mess with them, dude. Next question?

They make you raise a barn all by yourself!

56 Racer X  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:37:37pm

re: #48 Racer X


Thanks!

I'm totally OK with the Amish exemptions.

Can someone explain to me why the union exemption is cool?

re: #52 Walter L. Newton

Because they want them.

I remain unconvinced.

57 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:39:46pm
58 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:40:07pm

re: #54 keloyd

31, 43
The Amish and many Muslims object to insurance on principal. It is akin to gambling, which is verboten, though Islamic banking institutions have workarounds, and certain Muslims who I know, but won't name names, think Imams are making a bit of a stretch and don't worry about it. They have mortgages, fire insurance, and car insurance just like everyone else.

Amish fire insurance is known as a "barn raising". Your house or your barn burns down, all your neighbors get together and build you a new one in like two days. Then they give you furniture or cows for it.

If it happens to one of them, you do the same.

59 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:40:16pm
60 Racer X  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:40:16pm

Amish = Our religious beliefs preclude us from engaging in certain business activities.

Unions = We helped you get elected, now you will throw some money our way or else.

Am I right or wrong?

61 Boogberg  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:41:35pm

re: #53 SixDegrees

Get the hell outta here! Are you frickin' kidding me? Damn I love the internet! lol

62 abolitionist  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:41:37pm

Dr Sanjay Gupta in Haiti:
Friday evening - click on Doctors told to evacuate 2:17
Doctors & nurses are shown leaving on UN vehicles, as ordered, due to security concerns.
About 7am, Sat - click on Help for Haiti's victims :56
Dr Gupta reports that the Belgian doctors and nurses etc had returned a short time earlier.
Sorry, can't seem to link directly to individual videos.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

63 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:42:12pm

re: #60 Racer X

Amish = Our religious beliefs preclude us from engaging in certain business activities.

Unions = We helped you get elected, now you will throw some money our way or else.

Am I right or wrong?

I was only kidding... geeeeessshhhhh...

64 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:43:01pm

re: #61 Boogberg

Get the hell outta here! Are you frickin' kidding me? Damn I love the internet! lol

You've never seen Steam Punk. Welcome to the New Victorians.

65 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:43:21pm

re: #60 Racer X

Amish = Our religious beliefs preclude us from engaging in certain business activities.

Unions = We helped you get elected, now you will throw some money our way or else.

Am I right or wrong?

You're right. But if ever there was justification for the tu quoque argument, it's here.

Or do I need to get into the paybacks to industry etc. from the last administration.

Fucking business as fucking usual.

66 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:44:11pm

re: #57 mrbaracuda

Since the story is being pushed my dishonest bloggers I never bothered to look into it. I just assume it's probably not true and/or not important.

67 Gus  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:44:37pm

FWIW. The Amish are already exempt from SS and Medicare Taxes:

The Amish – Social Security and Medicare Taxes - PDF
Parman R. Green, MU Extension Ag Business Mgmt. Specialist

Some religious groups including the Amish do not believe in commercial insurance because it is seen as not trusting in God and additionally, they believe in “taking care of their own”. While the Amish believe in “render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s”, they objected to paying into Social Security’s “Old Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance”.While the government initially argued this was just another tax – they later admitted it was not. In 1965 when the Medicare bill was enacted – the Old Order Amish and other religious sects who conscientiously objected to insurance, were exempted from paying Social Security and Medicare taxes, provided the sect had been in existence since December 31, 1950.

With the exception of Social Security and Medicare taxes, members of these religious sects pay the same income, property, sales, and other taxes as everyone else. In order to be exempt from Social Security and Medicare taxes, a member of these sects must obtain a Social Security number and file Form 4029 – Application for Exemption from Social Security and Medicare Taxes and Waiver of Benefits. This application when approved – waives all rights to receive any Social Security benefits for the filer and anyone else who might have been eligible to receive benefits on the filer’s Social Security record.

This exemption from Social Security and Medicare taxes is applicable for selfemployment income and wages. However, for wages to be exempt, both the employer and employee must have approved Form 4029 exemptions. Thus, wages paid to an Amish employee by an employer who is not a member of the sect would be subject to Social Security and Medicare withholdings.

68 SixDegrees  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:44:52pm

re: #61 Boogberg

Get the hell outta here! Are you frickin' kidding me? Damn I love the internet! lol

Steam Punk rocks. I would so buy one of those keyboards if they were for sale.

Well, and if I could afford one. Definitely not cheap if the guy was interested in selling them.

Check out some of his other projects in the sidebar.

69 keloyd  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:45:37pm

re: #53 SixDegrees

That's very good, but I want to go further still. I want the whole thing - authentic manual typewriter feel, a carriage return "key" that is in fact a big chrome bar, keys for ¢ , ¼ and ¾ keys, but none for 0 or 1. Many pre-WW2 typewriters made you use the letter O and lower case L for that.

Alas, having too much time on your hands seems to correlate with poverty. When you can get one without the other, let me know how it's done.

70 Racer X  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:46:16pm

re: #63 Walter L. Newton

I was only kidding... geeessshhh...

I know!

71 Buck  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:46:39pm

re: #56 Racer X

Seriously.... it is Payback for their support. The democrats thought the tax on Cadillac plans would only hurt "fat cats". Turns out Union members have Cadillac plans (cost more than $24,000 per year).

They went in and said: "We bought and paid for you. You owe us. We own you". Obama gave them an 8 year tax break (hmm I wonder why 8 years?).

That tax break will cost the budget $60 Billion. That was $60 billion that was suppose to help pay for this health reform that isn't going to add to the budget one thin dime. Suddenly they didn't really need THAT $60 billion.

72 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:47:21pm

re: #53 SixDegrees

Check this one out. Scroll down to the bottom to see the finished product.

Some people have too much time on their hands.

I want that keyboard!

Here is someone who makes keyboards to order.
$1200 to $1500 per keyboard. Beautiful, imo - actual art.

73 mrbaracuda  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:48:05pm

re: #66 Killgore Trout

Same here. The source they have is another unsourced bullshit think tank using the same stupid "climategate" phrases. It would be interesting to know whether or not it's true and why stimulus money was sent their way.

74 Boogberg  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:49:58pm

re: #64 Walter L. Newton

No I hadn't but that's pretty damned cool. I'm starting to wonder if there are any questions that can't be answered with an internet search. Amazing.

75 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:50:10pm

re: #73 mrbaracuda

It wouldn't surprise me that stimulus money went to various science research groups affiliated with all sorts of people.

76 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:51:39pm

re: #74 Boogberg

No I hadn't but that's pretty damned cool. I'm starting to wonder if there are any questions that can't be answered with an internet search. Amazing.

Try "Who is Hugh Fitzgerald?" and let me know how you do. A lot of smart people have broken teeth on that one.

77 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:52:59pm

re: #72 reine.de.tout

Okay, too much money and too much time...

78 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:56:28pm

re: #72 reine.de.tout

I want that keyboard!

Here is someone who makes keyboards to order.
$1200 to $1500 per keyboard. Beautiful, imo - actual art.

I'm not spending $1200-1500 for something i'm going to drool coffee on!!

oh ,,wait ,, I spent WAY more than that on vehicles, a house and a vacation condo that i regularly drool coffee in ,,, nevahmind !!!

79 Boogberg  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:56:33pm

re: #76 Cato the Elder

Your post is already #5 on a Google search! lol

80 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:57:18pm

Note: I'm going to be traveling this afternoon, so if you don't see new posts for a few hours, that's why.

81 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:57:21pm

re: #78 sattv4u2

I'm not spending $1200-1500 for something i'm going to drool coffee on!!

oh ,,wait ,, I spent WAY more than that on vehicles, a house and a vacation condo that i regularly drool coffee in ,,, nevahmind !!!

Have consulted your doctor about this drooling problem?
/:)

82 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:57:51pm

re: #77 EmmmieG

Okay, too much money and too much time...

I get totally pissed when I hear people say that about someone else's pursuits. It's the definition of envy and jealousy combined with incomprehension.

Especially the time part.

How much time does the average person spend in front of the teevee every week? And then they bitch about being short of time. Kill your television and you could build three interesting custom keyboards (or whatever the hell you feel like doing with your own damn time) a week.

Of course, by "you" I do not necessarily mean you, not knowing you and all that. Just sayin' - hands off other people's time.

83 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:58:10pm

re: #81 Varek Raith

Have consulted your doctor about this drooling problem?
/:)

I'm now Amish ,

No health ins ,, no doctor!

84 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:59:32pm

re: #83 sattv4u2

I'm now Amish ,

No health ins ,, no doctor!

...so what the hell ya doin' on the interwebz?!?!
/

85 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:00:06pm

re: #79 Boogberg

Your post is already #5 on a Google search! lol

I thought Charles had programing of his installed on this site to prevent indexing bots from indexing his site. I remember that was a big issue for Charles way in the past and he didn't want any of that?

Am I missing something? Does that mean that anything we are posting is being indexed in Google?

86 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:01:38pm

re: #72 reine.de.tout

I want that keyboard!

Here is someone who makes keyboards to order.
$1200 to $1500 per keyboard. Beautiful, imo - actual art.

I want the one with the Latin tag on the spacebar.

87 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:03:48pm
88 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:04:13pm

re: #84 Varek Raith

...so what the hell ya doin' on the interwebz?!?!
/

SHHHH ,, seekrit rebel Amish

89 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:04:51pm

re: #88 sattv4u2

SHHH ,, seekrit rebel Amish

*whisper*Okay!

90 Boogberg  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:05:24pm

re: #85 Walter L. Newton

I thought Charles had programing of his installed on this site to prevent indexing bots from indexing his site. I remember that was a big issue for Charles way in the past and he didn't want any of that?

Am I missing something? Does that mean that anything we are posting is being indexed in Google?

Good question but I'm not sure why it would be a problem.

91 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:07:01pm

re: #90 Boogberg

Good question but I'm not sure why it would be a problem.

You would have to ask Charles.

92 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:10:11pm

re: #91 Walter L. Newton

You would have to ask Charles.

Stop telling people what they "have to' do !!!

93 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:11:25pm

re: #92 sattv4u2

Stop telling people what they "have to' do !!!

It's when people tell me what I "need" to do that I get cranky.

94 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:12:15pm

Martha Coakley says her foreign policy experience comes from having a sister overseas.

Hmm....I guess no one's laughing about it because it's not Sarah Palin or some other "idiot Republican"

95 Boogberg  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:12:24pm

re: #93 Cato the Elder

You need to stop getting cranky. :D

96 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:12:50pm

re: #92 sattv4u2

Stop telling people what they "have to' do !!!

re: #93 Cato the Elder

It's when people tell me what I "need" to do that I get cranky.

So, what the fuck you want me to do, make up an answer?

97 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:13:42pm

re: #93 Cato the Elder

It's when people tell me what I "need" to do that I get cranky.

Well, there's no need for me to know that
(unless you're planning on visiting ME for two nights in the future!)

98 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:15:10pm

re: #94 TheMatrix31

Martha Coakley says her foreign policy experience comes from having a sister overseas.

Hmm...I guess no one's laughing about it because it's not Sarah Palin or some other "idiot Republican"

Maybe it's also that she's not running as the possible replacement to the chief executive and commander in chief. See the difference?

99 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:15:58pm

re: #98 Cato the Elder

So that somehow makes her answer acceptable. Oh, okay.

100 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:16:27pm

re: #97 sattv4u2

Well, there's no need for me to know that
(unless you're planning on visiting ME for two nights in the future!)

Maybe in vampire form...

101 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:16:43pm

re: #99 TheMatrix31

So that somehow makes her answer acceptable. Oh, okay.

No, proper context is important.

102 Baier  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:17:00pm

Half plant, half animal = green slug.

The slugs can manufacture the most common form of chlorophyll, the green pigment in plants that captures energy from sunlight, Pierce reported January 7 at the annual meeting of the Society for Integrative and Comparative Biology. Pierce used a radioactive tracer to show that the slugs were making the pigment, called chlorophyll a, themselves and not simply relying on chlorophyll reserves stolen from the algae the slugs dine on.

“This could be a fusion of a plant and an animal — that’s just cool,” said invertebrate zoologist John Zardus of The Citadel in Charleston, S.C.

[Link: www.wired.com...]

103 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:17:01pm

re: #98 Cato the Elder

Maybe it's also that she's not running as the possible replacement to the chief executive and commander in chief. See the difference?

Only difference is the level of elected office being sought

level of stupidity in the statement, not so much

104 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:17:28pm

re: #100 Cato the Elder

Maybe in vampire form...

I'll wear a turtleneck sweater!

105 Mocking Jay  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:18:22pm

re: #87 Varek Raith

I want this laptop...


That is really cool.

106 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:18:35pm

re: #104 sattv4u2

I'll wear a turtleneck sweater!

You'll need a leather belt around your neck. A turtleneck sweater just won't cut it. ;)

107 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:18:43pm

re: #99 TheMatrix31

So that somehow makes her answer acceptable. Oh, okay.

Another devastatingly witty riposte. Is that really you, Keanu?

108 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:19:09pm

re: #106 Varek Raith

You'll need a leather belt around your neck. A turtleneck sweater just won't cut it. ;)

Cato's old
His teeth aren't what they used to be!

109 Gus  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:20:13pm

re: #75 Killgore Trout

It wouldn't surprise me that stimulus money went to various science research groups affiliated with all sorts of people.

Said article refers to a Thomas J. Borelli Ph.D. who was "was the manager of Philip Morris Corporate Scientific Affairs Department circa 1990..." More on the National Center for Public Policy Research here.

The actual grant is by way of the National Science Foundation (as the Funding Agency). The grant summary reads as such:

To combine paleoclimate and instrumental observations with a new Earth system Model of Intermediate Complexity (EMIC) to improve constraints on key climate parameters including those governing dynamical and potentially abrupt responses to forcing. We will focus on dynamical mechanisms associated with the El Nino/Southern Oscillation (ENSO) and the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC). We will adopt an existing EMIC (“LOVECLIM”) as a starting point. Using ‘anomaly coupling’ in the tropical Pacific, a new version of LOVECLIM is capable of simulating ENSO quite realistically. ENSO teleconnection patterns will be corrected statistically to provide more reliable assessments of extratropical expressions of ENSO such as changes in western United States precipitation/drought. The project will provide (i) an improved representation of ENSO in an Earth system model of intermediate complexity, (ii) refined estimates of key climate parameters, and (iii) improved projections of potential changes in AMOC and ENSO (and associated drought impacts) in response to anthropogenic forcing. The project will provide a general methodological framework that can be exploited by the larger climate research community as improved proxy climate data become available, and/or as computational resources become available for employing more elaborate climate models in the required large ensemble runs.

Other grants going to Penn State University can be found here.

The grant evolved from the NSF Paleoclimate Program which can be found here. An abstract of the award can be found at the NSF site: Award Abstract #0902133.

Michael Mann is listed as the Principal Investigator and Klaus Keller as Co-Principal Investigator.

110 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:20:14pm

re: #106 Varek Raith

You'll need a leather belt around your neck. A turtleneck sweater just won't cut it. ;)

I'm starting to get turned on over this image.

111 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:20:31pm

re: #108 sattv4u2

Apparently his "asshole" is still in tip-top shape.

112 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:21:22pm

re: #108 sattv4u2

Cato's old
His teeth aren't what they used to be!

Vampires tend to get stronger with age. ;)

113 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:22:01pm

re: #111 TheMatrix31

Apparently his "asshole" is still in tip-top shape.

trying the enemy of my enemy is my freind angle failed miserably

have a downding!

114 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:22:12pm

re: #111 TheMatrix31

Apparently his "asshole" is still in tip-top shape.

What the fuck did you mean by that?

115 ethics  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:22:59pm

re: #109 Gus 802

Nicely done, there. Thanks for that.

116 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:23:07pm

The Kid has invited a friend for dinner. I'm using this open thread to get accustomed to the riot.

117 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:23:10pm

re: #15 Cato the Elder

If I could get an old IBM Selectric typewriter keyboard to work with my iMac, that would be the coolest. That thing had best positive feedback feel of anything I've ever used.

It also had a security vulnerability. The time delay from keystroke to the ball impact was unique for each character. Bad guys recording the sound could reconstruct its output by analyzing the delay. (Or so we were told.)

118 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:23:40pm

re: #114 Walter L. Newton

As in, he's been an asshole to me for months now, and for no good reason. Unless you think it's okay to just bombard a person's intelligence over and over again.

119 brookly red  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:24:49pm

re: #116 MandyManners

The Kid has invited a friend for dinner. I'm using this open thread to get accustomed to the riot.

fill em with ziti till they get sleepy...

120 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:24:59pm

re: #118 TheMatrix31

You haven't exactly been a shining paragon of civility yourself. ;)

121 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:25:15pm

re: #118 TheMatrix31

As in, he's been an asshole to me for months now, and for no good reason. Unless you think it's okay to just bombard a person's intelligence over and over again.

Palin is a blooming idiot. Best and only reason anyone would need. Piss off, jerk.

122 Buck  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:25:24pm

re: #85 Walter L. Newton

I don't think it was google, but all the other third tier crawlers. They were sucking back CPU cycles, and bandwidth ($).

123 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:25:56pm

re: #116 MandyManners

The Kid has invited a friend for dinner. I'm using this open thread to get accustomed to the riot.

hell ,,, each weekend (Friday night till about 4 p.m. Sunday) we have at least 2 of my sons freinds at a time

124 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:26:01pm

re: #120 Varek Raith

Yeah but I never go around insulting a person's intelligence or anything like that.

Whatever.

125 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:26:26pm

re: #118 TheMatrix31

As in, he's been an asshole to me for months now, and for no good reason. Unless you think it's okay to just bombard a person's intelligence over and over again.

And what intelligence are you talking about? That sentence doesn't make an ounce of sense. You have to have intelligence for someone to question it.

126 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:26:43pm

re: #121 Walter L. Newton

This has nothing to do with Palin. Maybe you should look at his past statements towards me if you hadn't been around for them.

127 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:27:14pm

re: #126 TheMatrix31

This has nothing to do with Palin. Maybe you should look at his past statements towards me if you hadn't been around for them.

Were you being stupid?

128 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:27:16pm

re: #125 Walter L. Newton

Cool, you too.

Time for football---later.

129 Boogberg  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:27:41pm

re: #117 Decatur Deb

Wow. I believe that for some reason. (that you were told that)

130 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:27:42pm

re: #119 brookly red

fill em with ziti till they get sleepy...

Chicken enchiladas, refried beans, Mexican rice, onions, lettuce, black olives and tomatoes. Orange sherbet with chocolate sauce for dessert.

131 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:28:30pm

re: #53 SixDegrees

Thanks. Bookmarked.

132 ethics  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:28:43pm

re: #121 Walter L. Newton

Palin is a blooming idiot..

Yes, but that wasn't the point of the post?

133 brookly red  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:29:05pm

re: #130 MandyManners

Chicken enchiladas, refried beans, Mexican rice, onions, lettuce, black olives and tomatoes. Orange sherbet with chocolate sauce for dessert.

cool. that should do it...

134 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:29:17pm

re: #118 TheMatrix31

"Bombard"?

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Unless your poor little intelligence feels bombarded by all the sesquipedalian vocables I employ.

If you meant "scoff", I plead guilty.

135 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:29:30pm

re: #118 TheMatrix31

As in, he's been an asshole to me for months now, and for no good reason. Unless you think it's okay to just bombard a person's intelligence over and over again.

toughen up, Nancy

Cato's an asshole to EVERYONE. If you're that insecure with your own intellect seek help

136 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:29:33pm

re: #130 MandyManners

Chicken enchiladas, refried beans, Mexican rice, onions, lettuce, black olives and tomatoes. Orange sherbet with chocolate sauce for dessert.

Plenty of carbs in that meal. The kid will nod off in no time.

On another note...Mandy...would you be willing to share a good pot roast recipe for the crock pot (if you have one)?

137 Buck  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:29:35pm

re: #121 Walter L. Newton

Palin is a blooming idiot. Best and only reason anyone would need. Piss off, jerk.

Still trying to 'get' your humour....not getting the sarcasm...

138 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:29:54pm

re: #122 Buck

I don't think it was google, but all the other third tier crawlers. They were sucking back CPU cycles, and bandwidth ($).

No, I'm sure it was Google too!

139 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:30:06pm

BRB

140 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:31:14pm

Pat Robertson gets a reply:

Dear Pat Robertson, I know that you know that all press is good press, so I appreciate the shout-out. And you make God look like a big mean bully who kicks people when they are down, so I'm all over that action. But when you say that Haiti has made a pact with me, it is totally humiliating. I may be evil incarnate, but I'm no welcher. The way you put it, making a deal with me leaves folks desperate and impoverished. Sure, in the afterlife, but when I strike bargains with people, they first get something here on earth -- glamour, beauty, talent, wealth, fame, glory, a golden fiddle. Those Haitians have nothing, and I mean nothing. And that was before the earthquake. Haven't you seen "Crossroads"? Or "Damn Yankees"? If I had a thing going with Haiti, there'd be lots of banks, skyscrapers, SUVs, exclusive night clubs, Botox -- that kind of thing. An 80 percent poverty rate is so not my style. Nothing against it -- I'm just saying: Not how I roll. You're doing great work, Pat, and I don't want to clip your wings -- just, come on, you're making me look bad. And not the good kind of bad. Keep blaming God. That's working. But leave me out of it, please. Or we may need to renegotiate your own contract.

Best, Satan

141 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:31:22pm

re: #134 Cato the Elder

"Bombard"?

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Unless your poor little intelligence feels bombarded by all the sesquipedalian vocables I employ.

If you meant "scoff", I plead guilty.

Lexicological assault!11!
///:)

142 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:31:29pm

*looks over the fence*

"Oh."

*goes back behind the fence*

143 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:31:32pm

re: #137 Buck

Still trying to 'get' your humour...not getting the sarcasm...

I wasn't being sarcastic. I don't like Matrix dumping on Cato, period. Got it?

144 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:33:35pm

re: #136 eclectic infidel

Plenty of carbs in that meal. The kid will nod off in no time.

On another note...Mandy...would you be willing to share a good pot roast recipe for the crock pot (if you have one)?

For either pork or beef.

1 tsp. garlic powder
1 tsp. fennel seed, crushed
1/2 tsp. thyme
2 tsp. black pepper
1 Tbs. paprika
1/2 tsp. oregano
1/2 tsp. cayenne pepper (optional if you don't like hot stuff)
1/2 tsp. salt

Mix it all together. Wash and dry your roast and then lightly oil it. Rub in 1-2 Tbs. of mixture onto it and let it stand in the fridge for at least an hour.

145 ethics  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:33:37pm

re: #140 wrenchwench

Pat Robertson gets a reply:

I love the crack at the developed world.

146 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:33:57pm

re: #117 Decatur Deb

It also had a security vulnerability. The time delay from keystroke to the ball impact was unique for each character. Bad guys recording the sound could reconstruct its output by analyzing the delay. (Or so we were told.)

Fascinating, and obviously possible, because the starting position of the ball was always the same and each character was at a different angle and distance from the platen. Of course we're talking about microseconds, but I suppose the Soviets had the technology.

147 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:35:04pm

Gotta' go mash my beans.

148 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:35:22pm

re: #136 eclectic infidel

Plenty of carbs in that meal. The kid will nod off in no time.

On another note...Mandy...would you be willing to share a good pot roast recipe for the crock pot (if you have one)?

I made my first pot roast a week ago tomorrow. Came out great! Joy of Cooking.

149 Buck  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:35:40pm

re: #143 Walter L. Newton

I wasn't being sarcastic. I don't like Matrix dumping on Cato, period. Got it?

OK, so why not say that? Why mention Palin? That has to be some form of humour?

AND you are right about search engines to include Google. The robots.txt says

User-agent: *
Disallow: comments/

150 brookly red  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:35:51pm

re: #147 MandyManners

Gotta' go mash my beans.

/is that what you call it now days?

151 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:36:58pm

re: #146 Cato the Elder

Fascinating, and obviously possible, because the starting position of the ball was always the same and each character was at a different angle and distance from the platen. Of course we're talking about microseconds, but I suppose the Soviets had the technology.

Yes they did. They used human remote sensors stationed in facilities near the North Pole to zone in on certain UN offices in New York City. Very effective program from what I read. Let me see if I can find the Wiki entry.

152 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:38:00pm

re: #147 MandyManners

Gotta' go mash my beans.

Now you're just fishing for it.

153 brookly red  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:38:55pm

re: #151 Walter L. Newton

Yes they did. They used human remote sensors stationed in facilities near the North Pole to zone in on certain UN offices in New York City. Very effective program from what I read. Let me see if I can find the Wiki entry.

but why would they need to spy to know what the UN was doing?

154 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:40:19pm

re: #149 Buck

OK, so why not say that? Why mention Palin? That has to be some form of humour?

AND you are right about search engines to include Google. The robots.txt says

User-agent: *
Disallow: comments/

Then how come our comment are getting index in Google now? I'm quite sure Charles put some sort of coding in a number of years ago to keep bots off the comment pages. That was one of the nice things about LGF's was our comments, heated as they may be, didn't sudden;y become available to anyone searching for one of us.

I'm not sure if these indexing protections have been changed by Charles, if Google has a way around them or what's going on, but since you brought it up, I just thought I would ask.

155 Buck  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:43:01pm

re: #140 wrenchwench

Pat Robertson gets a reply:

Actually that is exactly how Satan would work. You ask for one thing, you get it AND have to live with the unintended fall out. The lack of an imperialist/parasite sponsor cost Haiti in many ways... Being part of the Commonwealth, or French republic seems to have helped many of the Islands.

I don't believe in the devil, but the devil is characterized as a trickster.

156 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:44:03pm

re: #140 wrenchwench

Pat Robertson gets a reply:

"Or we may need to renegotiate your own contract."

I so wish I had written that.

157 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:45:21pm
158 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:45:57pm

re: #144 MandyManners

Thank you very much. I have almost all the ingredients in the house already.

159 Stuart Leviton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:48:34pm

re: #94 TheMatrix31

Martha Coakley says her foreign policy experience comes from having a sister overseas.

Hmm...I guess no one's laughing about it because it's not Sarah Palin or some other "idiot Republican"

Sorry to disagree with you, my friend. Coakley did not say that. She was asked several questions at once including whether she has foreign policy experience and if she has travelled overseas. She ducked the first one.

160 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:55:41pm

re: #159 Stuart Leviton

Dude. You killed the thread.

161 brookly red  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:57:41pm

re: #160 wrenchwench

Dude. You killed the thread.

well now we can talk about important stuff, like beer...

162 McSpiff  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:58:07pm

Did I hear something about beer?

163 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:58:53pm

re: #161 brookly red

well now we can talk about important stuff, like beer...

Oh, thank goodness. I thought it was the Rapture and I was the only one left.

164 Boogberg  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:00:13pm

Crap! Only two beers left. This is an outrage!

165 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:00:41pm

re: #163 wrenchwench

Oh, thank goodness. I thought it was the Rapture and I was the only one left.

naw, I'm here.
About to fall asleep.

166 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:01:05pm

re: #160 wrenchwench

Dude. You killed the thread.

It's my fault. I plugged in our new treadmill without using a surge suppressor.

167 McSpiff  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:01:12pm

re: #164 Boogberg

Crap! Only two beers left. This is an outrage!

IT IS THE END OF THE WORLD!

168 Buck  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:01:31pm

re: #154 Walter L. Newton

Then how come our comment are getting index in Google now? I'm quite sure Charles put some sort of coding in a number of years ago to keep bots off the comment pages. That was one of the nice things about LGF's was our comments, heated as they may be, didn't sudden;y become available to anyone searching for one of us.

I'm not sure if these indexing protections have been changed by Charles, if Google has a way around them or what's going on, but since you brought it up, I just thought I would ask.

I don't know.... Unless Charles missed an opening. The Robots.txt says they can crawl the posts, but not any folder past comments/

169 brookly red  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:01:57pm

re: #164 Boogberg

Crap! Only two beers left. This is an outrage!

OMG this is Saturday! wtf were you thinking!

170 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:02:32pm

re: #163 wrenchwench

Oh, thank goodness. I thought it was the Rapture and I was the only one left.

If there's a Rapture, it might cause a mild ripple on LGF.

171 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:02:44pm

re: #154 Walter L. Newton

Then how come our comment are getting index in Google now? I'm quite sure Charles put some sort of coding in a number of years ago to keep bots off the comment pages. That was one of the nice things about LGF's was our comments, heated as they may be, didn't sudden;y become available to anyone searching for one of us.

I'm not sure if these indexing protections have been changed by Charles, if Google has a way around them or what's going on, but since you brought it up, I just thought I would ask.

The origin of this question here on this thread seems to have been my joking challenge to Boogberg, who wondered whether there is any question that can't be answered by searching the internet, to try "Who is Hugh Fitzgerald?" and see how far it got him. He replied that my comment was already number five in the Google results.

It's not. He seems to have been joshing. So as far as I can tell, the comments are not being indexed.

172 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:03:38pm

Beer is actually the topic of this thread.

173 Locker  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:04:39pm

Hey I like beer... I'm in...

174 Stuart Leviton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:05:05pm

re: #160 wrenchwench

Dude. You killed the thread.

Will I go to Gitmo for that? Hope I get a civil trial.

Sorry about the thread-icide.

175 YoungLibertarian92  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:06:00pm

re: #174 Stuart Leviton

I hope you get a military commission. lol

176 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:06:02pm

It's not 70s enough in here.

177 SixDegrees  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:06:49pm

re: #168 Buck

I don't know... Unless Charles missed an opening. The Robots.txt says they can crawl the posts, but not any folder past comments/

Just a note: settings in your robots.txt file are only a suggestion. Most web crawlers, out of common courtesy, obey these settings, but there is no way to enforce it. Errors in crawler programming and plain old rudeness often result in "off limits" sections of a website being crawled.

I've noticed this a few times at my website. Perhaps not surprisingly, a large number of offending IP addresses trace back to China and Russia, the current hubs for illicit Internet activity of all kinds.

178 brookly red  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:06:59pm

re: #173 Locker

Hey I like beer... I'm in...

/ heard that a slight increase in global temperature could double the amount of land that could support hops...

179 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:07:36pm

re: #174 Stuart Leviton

Will I go to Gitmo for that? Hope I get a civil trial.

Sorry about the thread-icide.

It has been revived by beer.

180 Boogberg  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:08:29pm

re: #171 Cato the Elder

The origin of this question here on this thread seems to have been my joking challenge to Boogberg, who wondered whether there is any question that can't be answered by searching the internet, to try "Who is Hugh Fitzgerald?" and see how far it got him. He replied that my comment was already number five in the Google results.

It's not. He seems to have been joshing. So as far as I can tell, the comments are not being indexed.

Wait a minute. I typed "Who is Hugh Fitzgerald?" (quotes and all) into the Google searchbar. Your comment was five entries down. I swear!

181 YoungLibertarian92  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:08:32pm

re: #178 brookly red

///AGW will destroy all the crops. No beer for anyone but the Illuminati. ////

182 brookly red  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:08:35pm

re: #179 wrenchwench

It has been revived by beer.

as have I :)

183 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:09:34pm

re: #173 Locker

Someone say beer?

184 YoungLibertarian92  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:09:53pm

Sorry to go off topic, but I was wondering, what do you define as a Moderate or a Centrist?

185 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:10:29pm

re: #180 Boogberg

Wait a minute. I typed "Who is Hugh Fitzgerald?" (quotes and all) into the Google searchbar. Your comment was five entries down. I swear!

I don't know what you did, then.
I typed the same question, and cato's comment was nowhere to be seen.
Twice

186 Racer X  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:11:04pm

re: #144 MandyManners

For either pork or beef.

1 tsp. garlic powder
1 tsp. fennel seed, crushed
1/2 tsp. thyme
2 tsp. black pepper
1 Tbs. paprika
1/2 tsp. oregano
1/2 tsp. cayenne pepper (optional if you don't like hot stuff)
1/2 tsp. salt

Mix it all together. Wash and dry your roast and then lightly oil it. Rub in 1-2 Tbs. of mixture onto it and let it stand in the fridge for at least an hour.

Ewe! Raw meat? No thanks! I'm going to cook mine in the oven.

187 brookly red  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:11:48pm

re: #184 YoungLibertarian92

Sorry to go off topic, but I was wondering, what do you define as a Moderate or a Centrist?

a moderate doesn't drink much beer... a centrist needs to stand between 2 buddies to hold him up.

188 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:12:31pm

re: #187 brookly red

Very good.

189 YoungLibertarian92  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:12:36pm

re: #187 brookly red

Haha!

190 brookly red  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:12:48pm

re: #185 reine.de.tout

I don't know what you did, then.
I typed the same question, and cato's comment was nowhere to be seen.
Twice

/stinky works for Google now?

191 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:13:30pm

Evening folks. Just browsing Yahoo News and came on this. Was wondering if anyone was talking about it.
A Spanish lawmaker named Gaspar Llamazares is torqued off because the FBI snipped bits of his photo to creaqte a aged photo of Osama Bin Laden. Says he might sue.
Osama lookalike


"The forensic artist was unable to find suitable features among the reference photographs and obtained those features, in part, from a photograph he found on the Internet," the FBI said in a statement to The Associated Press.
192 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:14:40pm

re: #171 Cato the Elder

The origin of this question here on this thread seems to have been my joking challenge to Boogberg, who wondered whether there is any question that can't be answered by searching the internet, to try "Who is Hugh Fitzgerald?" and see how far it got him. He replied that my comment was already number five in the Google results.

It's not. He seems to have been joshing. So as far as I can tell, the comments are not being indexed.

From Google summary...

"
Little Green Footballs
little green footballs - home page. ... re: #447 Cato the Elder Prii! You're not a Jalopnik reader, are you? :DWindUpBird :: 1 hour, 19 minutes ago ...
littlegreenfootballs.com/ - Cached - Similar"

193 YoungLibertarian92  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:15:08pm

re: #191 Escaped Hillbilly

It's his fault. He should've coprighted his face.

194 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:15:28pm

re: #192 Walter L. Newton

From Google summary...

"
Little Green Footballs
little green footballs - home page. ... re: #447 Cato the Elder Prii! You're not a Jalopnik reader, are you? :DWindUpBird :: 1 hour, 19 minutes ago ...
littlegreenfootballs.com/ - Cached - Similar"

[Link: www.google.com...]

195 brookly red  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:18:34pm

re: #191 Escaped Hillbilly

Evening folks. Just browsing Yahoo News and came on this. Was wondering if anyone was talking about it.
A Spanish lawmaker named Gaspar Llamazares is torqued off because the FBI snipped bits of his photo to creaqte a aged photo of Osama Bin Laden. Says he might sue.
Osama lookalike

/let him sue, I sure the FBI has other photos of him too...

196 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:19:52pm

re: #193 YoungLibertarian92

Oh, I don't think he'd win. He's a public figure, the pic was on the internets, and they only used snippets. They do that all the time. The funny thing is, the FBI has now cowtowed and agreed to remove the photo. Soooo, we're not looking for Osama Bin Laden any more?

197 Boogberg  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:21:03pm

re: #185 reine.de.tout

I don't know what you did, then.
I typed the same question, and cato's comment was nowhere to be seen.
Twice

Yeah it's gone. Maybe it was a computer glitch or something. I swear I saw it though. Who knows with Google. A while back they blocked people from posting Youtube links on their financial discussion boards. They OWN Youtube! lol

198 McSpiff  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:21:12pm

re: #196 Escaped Hillbilly

We are. We just aren't looking for this guy. //

199 Stuart Leviton  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:21:37pm

Dire Straits in Haiti:

"Everywhere, the acrid smell of bodies hangs in the air. It's just like the stories we are told of the Holocaust - thousands of bodies everywhere. You have to understand that the situation is true madness, and the more time passes, there are more and more bodies, in numbers that cannot be grasped. It is beyond comprehension."

(Source: Source: Jerusalem Post

200 Racer X  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:21:43pm

Cool. Beer thread.

SixPackTech

201 Locker  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:22:20pm

White people are looking at you! - W.S.

202 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:23:46pm

re: #195 brookly red

/let him sue, I sure the FBI has other photos of him too...


He must look a lot like the bearded one for his associates to notice the similarity and notify him? As anyone checked to see if he's been traveling with this kid?

203 Boogberg  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:24:07pm

re: #199 Stuart Leviton

That is absolutely heartbreaking. How awful. Those poor folks. I'm gonna have to get off my wallet.

204 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:26:01pm

re: #186 Racer X

Ewe! Raw meat? No thanks! I'm going to cook mine in the oven.

Dude, you roast it after you rub it.

205 brookly red  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:26:45pm

re: #204 MandyManners

Dude, you roast it after you rub it.

I will let that pass just this one time...

206 Buck  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:27:05pm

re: #177 SixDegrees

Just a note: settings in your robots.txt file are only a suggestion. Most web crawlers, out of common courtesy, obey these settings, but there is no way to enforce it. Errors in crawler programming and plain old rudeness often result in "off limits" sections of a website being crawled.

I've noticed this a few times at my website. Perhaps not surprisingly, a large number of offending IP addresses trace back to China and Russia, the current hubs for illicit Internet activity of all kinds.

Sure but Google?

207 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:27:24pm

re: #203 Boogberg

That is absolutely heartbreaking. How awful. Those poor folks. I'm gonna have to get off my wallet.


Some really inspiring stories are coming out too. The cellphone users are raising money. One Haitian doctor opened his home for 100 patients. More stories every day. I hope we handle this well, such people deserve respect and order so they can rebuild their lives. Our humanitarian missions don't always work out as well as we'd like. Does anyone know who is heading this one up?

208 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:27:26pm

re: #205 brookly red

I will let that pass just this one time...

Man, I have a red face.

209 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:28:26pm

re: #207 Escaped Hillbilly

Some really inspiring stories are coming out too. The cellphone users are raising money. One Haitian doctor opened his home for 100 patients. More stories every day. I hope we handle this well, such people deserve respect and order so they can rebuild their lives. Our humanitarian missions don't always work out as well as we'd like. Does anyone know who is heading this one up?

Pres. Bush and Pres. Clinton are doing the money thing.

210 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:29:45pm

re: #209 MandyManners

Pres. Bush and Pres. Clinton are doing the money thing.

Thanks. Think I saw that in passing this morning. But I was really thinking more the overall direction on the ground. I heard the name of a general being mentioned on yesterday's thread but now can't find the reference.

211 Buck  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:30:13pm

re: #192 Walter L. Newton

From Google summary...

"
Little Green Footballs
little green footballs - home page. ... re: #447 Cato the Elder Prii! You're not a Jalopnik reader, are you? :DWindUpBird :: 1 hour, 19 minutes ago ...
littlegreenfootballs.com/ - Cached - Similar"

Oh, maybe from the place your mouse over the last comment ID? The code would be in the front page.

212 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:34:03pm

re: #192 Walter L. Newton

From Google summary...

"
Little Green Footballs
little green footballs - home page. ... re: #447 Cato the Elder Prii! You're not a Jalopnik reader, are you? :DWindUpBird :: 1 hour, 19 minutes ago ...
littlegreenfootballs.com/ - Cached - Similar"

What am I doing wrong?
I don't get that at all.

213 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:35:01pm

re: #210 Escaped Hillbilly

Thanks. Think I saw that in passing this morning. But I was really thinking more the overall direction on the ground. I heard the name of a general being mentioned on yesterday's thread but now can't find the reference.

I think the general is from the Southern Command.

214 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:35:39pm

re: #213 MandyManners

I think the general is from the Southern Command.

Lt. General Russell Honore?

215 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:36:05pm

re: #213 MandyManners

I think the general is from the Southern Command.

US Southern Command.

216 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:38:22pm

re: #214 reine.de.tout

Lt. General Russell Honore?

I think he's retired.

217 brookly red  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:38:25pm

re: #213 MandyManners

I think the general is from the Southern Command.

Ripper?

218 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:40:25pm

re: #217 brookly red

Ripper?

He's busy collecting rainwater and pure grain alcohol.

219 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:41:10pm

re: #216 MandyManners

I think he's retired.

He is.

220 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:41:14pm

Gotta' go stuff my tortillas.

221 Gus  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:42:26pm

re: #210 Escaped Hillbilly

Thanks. Think I saw that in passing this morning. But I was really thinking more the overall direction on the ground. I heard the name of a general being mentioned on yesterday's thread but now can't find the reference.

Would probably be General Douglas Fraser, Commander SOUTHCOMM.

222 McSpiff  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:46:14pm

re: #220 MandyManners

Gotta' go stuff my tortillas.

...in bed.

223 abolitionist  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:47:04pm

re: #216 MandyManners

I think he's retired.

I saw him (Gen. Honore) on CNN in one of the reports with Dr Gupta, about the medical personnel being ordered away (temporarily, it turned out) from a tents facility.

224 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:48:40pm

re: #217 brookly red

Ripper?

Rip her? Barely even knew her!

225 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:49:39pm

re: #220 MandyManners

Gotta' go stuff my tortillas.

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

226 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:50:32pm

Back

never ceases to amaze me how many engineers in my industry try to trouble shoot something from the middle out!

227 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:52:08pm

re: #221 Gus 802

Thanks, think you're right. The navy has a rear admiral in charge over there but think the Air Force is gonna run things at least for now. This is obviously a JTF mission. I accidentally clicked on
globalresearch.ca (notice it isn't blue?). Those punks are crying that we have militarized our response to Haiti's disaster. Seem to imply we ought to have civilians running the show. They don't explain how. Now I have to go wash my screen off.

228 abolitionist  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:52:39pm

re: #226 sattv4u2

Back

never ceases to amaze me how many engineers in my industry try to trouble shoot something from the middle out!

Binary search strategy?

229 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:53:37pm

re: #228 abolitionist

Binary search strategy?

More like Head Firmly Inserted In Rectum strategy

230 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:57:29pm

re: #229 sattv4u2

More like Head Firmly Inserted In Rectum strategy

hmmmm,, one rectum reference and the thread dies !?!?!

231 abolitionist  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:59:47pm

re: #230 sattv4u2

I was just trying to inject some Dilbert-style humor. What sort of business or technology, if I may inquire?

232 Gus  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:00:36pm

re: #227 Escaped Hillbilly

Thanks, think you're right. The navy has a rear admiral in charge over there but think the Air Force is gonna run things at least for now. This is obviously a JTF mission. I accidentally clicked on
globalresearch.ca (notice it isn't blue?). Those punks are crying that we have militarized our response to Haiti's disaster. Seem to imply we ought to have civilians running the show. They don't explain how. Now I have to go wash my screen off.

They did? I remember those paranoid cranks over at Global Research from a couple of years ago. It's a joint effort and the military is playing a primary role. This will be common theme with the proverbial moonbats. I was watching an interview with Colin Powell last night on BBC and the interviewer made some stupid comment about "the people in Haiti seeing this as an invasion." Powell responded appropriately.

The Read Admiral would likely be Rear Adm. Ted N. Branch who is commander of Carrier Strike Group 1. You might remember him from the PBS series "Carrier" when he was Captain of the USS Nimitz.

233 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:03:54pm

re: #231 abolitionist

I was just trying to inject some Dilbert-style humor. What sort of business or technology, if I may inquire?

I dunno !!

hmmm'

SATellite TeleVison!!!

( and no,, not Direct TV nor Dish Network, although we do things for both)

We send and recieve satellite and fiber optic TV signals worldwide. Right now i'm sending the NFL to Europe in both High and Standard def, an ice skating competition to Russia, an ACC basketball game in both HD and SD (just finished, as a matter of fact) amongst other things

234 What, me worry?  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:04:09pm

re: #199 Stuart Leviton

Dire Straits in Haiti:

(Source: Source: Jerusalem Post

Thanks for that link Stuart! The sadness is beyond comprehension. I was particularly moved by this:

Amid the stench and chaos, the ZAKA delegation took time out to recite Shabbat prayers - a surreal sight of haredi men wrapped in prayer shawls standing on the collapsed buildings. Many locals sat quietly in the rubble, staring at the men as they prayed facing Jerusalem. At the end of the prayers, they crowded around the delegation and kissed the prayer shawls.

235 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:06:43pm

re: #232 Gus 802
Yeah, by now I should know to look for that dot gov or dot mil if I want the direct source. Anyway, this is from SouthCom's official websight. By the way, listening to the General's briefing on the effort now.

Disaster Relief Background Notes:

Any U.S. military assistance to a foreign country must be formally requested by the host nation through the U.S. ambassador. Then, the lead federal agent, USAID’s Office of U.S. Foreign Disaster Assistance, transmits requirements through the Department of State, who sends an Executive Secretariat Memorandum to the Department of Defense requesting military assistance.

As the headquarters responsible for military operations in South America, Central America and the Caribbean, SOUTHCOM leads all U.S. military relief support to nations in the region.


Once U.S. forces join a disaster relief effort, they work in concert with the U.S. interagency and multinational relief workers, taking cues from the host nation and USAID to provide needed services, from airlift capability, logistical and medical support, and engineering expertise. Recent disaster relief efforts have seen U.S. forces spend anywhere from days to weeks conducting operations after a storm.

236 Gus  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:07:10pm

Here we see the US Navy invading Haiti, with bottled water.

/

237 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:08:27pm

re: #236 Gus 802

Here we see the US Navy invading Haiti, with bottled water.

/

It flour-i-dated! //

238 Gus  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:09:10pm

re: #237 Escaped Hillbilly

It flour-i-dated! //

With mind controlling chemicals!

/

239 What, me worry?  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:09:35pm

News video from Jerusalem One of the Israelis in Haiti.

[Link: www.jerusalemonline.com...]

240 abolitionist  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:12:08pm

re: #233 sattv4u2
SATellite TeleVison!!!

Please excuse my decoding failure. Some of your tech gear might have a little of me inside, especially if it has a smooth functioning rotary encoder, a BNC input, and a grid on the display.

241 Gus  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:12:58pm

Here we see another operation being carried out by the invading US forces! Notice the canisters of what appears to be a blue fluid. They appear to labeled with the text, "Gatorade."

/

242 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:13:25pm

re: #240 abolitionist

SATellite TeleVison!!!

Please excuse my decoding failure. Some of your tech gear might have a little of me inside, especially if it has a smooth functioning rotary encoder, a BNC input, and a grid on the display.

n/p ,, and yes!

243 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:15:56pm

re: #235 Escaped Hillbilly

Yeah, by now I should know to look for that dot gov or dot mil if I want the direct source. Anyway, this is from SouthCom's official websight. By the way, listening to the General's briefing on the effort now.

Any U.S. military assistance to a foreign country must be formally requested by the host nation through the U.S. ambassador. Then, the lead federal agent, USAID’s Office of U.S. Foreign Disaster Assistance, transmits requirements through the Department of State, who sends an Executive Secretariat Memorandum to the Department of Defense requesting military assistance.

So what was the holdup in New Orleans? They couldn't find the U.S. ambassador? ;^)

244 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:16:11pm

re: #241 Gus 802

Here we see another operation being carried out by the invading US forces! Notice the canisters of what appears to be a blue fluid. They appear to labeled with the text, "Gatorade."

/

I heard the blue one's cause cancer. //

245 freetoken  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:16:30pm

re: #12 Buck

Giving Unions a $60 billion tax break on the Cadillac insurance plans is nothing short of the biggest display of pure corruption so far by the Obama administration.

While I might have had some sympathy for your argument, you blew it here. Reality is, it is the Congress, especially those members who come from districts where union vote turn out is still significant, for whom catering to this particular special interest group has led them to adding this to the health care bill negotiations.

Furthermore, all special interest groups try to get Congress to do their will. The HCR act is a big bill and has attracted particular attention, but pretty much anything Congress does has fine detail (often overlooked by the populace as a whole, and the news media) where certain groups have succeeded in getting some special attention.

246 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:17:04pm

re: #40 Walter L. Newton

I sell all the used keyboards you want for 2.99 serial or USB, 3.99 for wireless (infrared and bluetooth) at the thrift store. That's how I price them. When I went to work there three weeks ago, the prices were all over the place, 1.99 up to 9.99. After seeing how many used keyboards were coming in from the route trucks and donation station behind the store, I decided to generalize the price. I've sold more by standardizing the price then they have in the past.

My job includes pricing for furniture, electronics, spots and seasonal items, appliances (toasters to washers/dryers), electric health care products, bicycles, office furniture and assorted misc.

Walter, it sounds like you were born for retail...

;-P

247 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:18:15pm

re: #243 Cato the Elder

So what was the holdup in New Orleans? They couldn't find the U.S. ambassador? ;^)


Any U.S. military assistance to a foreign country must be formally requested by the host nation through the U.S. ambassador.

Hmmm. They speak French there Non?;-)

248 Gus  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:18:29pm

re: #244 Escaped Hillbilly

I heard the blue one's cause cancer. //

You know what else is blue don't you? The Na'vi in Avatar!!11!!11

It's hapenning!1!1!1

/

249 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:20:38pm

re: #248 Gus 802

You know what else is blue don't you? The Na'vi in Avatar!!11!!11

It's hapenning!1!1!1

/

Crap, you're right.

And so were Arwen's eyes in LoTR.

We are all so screwed.

(Can I please be screwed by Arwen?)

250 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:21:58pm

re: #249 Cato the Elder

Crap, you're right.

And so were Arwen's eyes in LoTR.

We are all so screwed.

(Can I please be screwed by Arwen?)

You might have to fight that Strider guy.

251 windsagio  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:22:04pm

re: #245 freetoken

also, I don't think corruption means what he thinks it means.


Its not like the unions are paying him off, Agnew-style...

252 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:22:46pm

re: #243 Cato the Elder

So what was the holdup in New Orleans? They couldn't find the U.S. ambassador? ;^)

They couldn't find the GOVERNOR, who was napping (or weeping).

253 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:23:40pm

re: #252 reine.de.tout

They couldn't find the GOVERNOR, who was napping (or weeping).

And squabbling with Nagin.

254 Gus  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:24:16pm

re: #249 Cato the Elder

Crap, you're right.

And so were Arwen's eyes in LoTR.

We are all so screwed.

(Can I please be screwed by Arwen?)

Yes, but first you must drink a goblet of the Blue Gatorade!

255 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:24:19pm

re: #252 reine.de.tout

They couldn't find the GOVERNOR, who was napping (or weeping).

If only they hadn't been able to find the Mayor.

256 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:25:16pm

re: #254 Gus 802

Yes, but first you must drink a goblet of the Blue Gatorade!

Note* It is not Cool Aid. Not Cool Aid. Don't worry, it isn't Cool Aid. Really.

257 Boogberg  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:26:13pm

re: #256 Escaped Hillbilly

Soylent blue?

258 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:26:40pm

re: #257 Boogberg

Soylent blue?

I ding all references to that movie.

259 brookly red  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:26:43pm

re: #257 Boogberg

Soylent blue?

smurf juice.

260 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:27:04pm

Just took Dragon_Lady out to the Hard Rock Cafe for lunch and some collectible pins. Anyway they already have printed fliers in all the checks so you can round up your bill, and they donate 100% of that to Haitian relief effort Ye`le Haiti. I asked and someone on staff said the flyers came in today FedEx Saturday Delivery-To every Hard Rock Cafe. Kudos to them for acting fast.

261 Boogberg  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:28:05pm

re: #258 Escaped Hillbilly

Ack Ack Ack! But why?

262 Gus  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:28:06pm

re: #256 Escaped Hillbilly

Note* It is not Cool Aid. Not Cool Aid. Don't worry, it isn't Cool Aid. Really.

Why didn't I think of that. It's really Island Twists™ Kool Aid disguised as Blue Gatorade™.

263 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:28:14pm

re: #260 Rightwingconspirator

My son's birthday is coming up...we're going to the Hard Rock.

264 Boogberg  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:31:49pm

re: #263 Escaped Hillbilly

Happy birthday to your son. Gonna be a band there?

265 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:31:54pm

re: #261 Boogberg

1) "Soylent Green is People!"
2) people being shoveled up in bull dozers
3) That cool/creepy go to sleep and never wake up suicide chamber
4) "Soylent Green is People!"
5) strawberries cost more than a car
6) SEE 1 and 4

266 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:33:17pm

re: #264 Boogberg

I don't know. We've never gone to Hard Rock before, he likes going out to eat, and they have actually demonstrated a conscience and a will.

267 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:35:07pm

re: #262 Gus 802

Why didn't I think of that. It's really Island Twists™ Kool Aid disguised as Blue Gatorade™.

Any Cool Aid that comes in a color that doesn't coincide with a fruit, is suspicious on its face. Orange, purple, red, yellow, fine. "Magic Color Changing"? er no.

268 Gus  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:35:30pm

re: #265 Escaped Hillbilly

1) "Soylent Green is People!"
2) people being shoveled up in bull dozers
3) That cool/creepy go to sleep and never wake up suicide chamber
4) "Soylent Green is People!"
5) strawberries cost more than a car
6) SEE 1 and 4

Do not read while under the influence of hallucinogens. /

269 Boogberg  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:35:48pm

re: #266 Escaped Hillbilly

Well it sounds wonderful. I'm sure your son will have a great time. :)

270 abolitionist  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:35:49pm

re: #242 sattv4u2
n/p ,, and yes!
Some of the product line had 320x240 lcd displays, with 8 small pushbuttons on the left. Three initials (w/date) at signon would be mine. For 12 years I was the embedded systems programmer.

271 Gus  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:36:16pm

re: #267 Escaped Hillbilly

Any Cool Aid that comes in a color that doesn't coincide with a fruit, is suspicious on its face. Orange, purple, red, yellow, fine. "Magic Color Changing"? er no.

Didn't George Carlin do a skit about "blue food" and how there isn't any?

272 ethics  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:36:17pm

Hell on earth (WARNING< THIS IS GRAPHIC)

Image: C2IxW.jpg

273 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:39:24pm

Hell, this ought to cause a few dingbats to go all tizzy. The headline has misquote potential galore.

Global Hawk collects reconnaissance data during Haiti relief efforts


AF Story

274 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:39:34pm

re: #272 ethics

Speechless

275 windsagio  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:39:54pm

re: #271 Gus 802

well, pink isn't the same as blue, but I've been wanting to get this tidbit in for like a week, and this is as close as I think we're gonna get >

276 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:41:11pm

re: #272 ethics

I have no words.

277 Gus  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:41:23pm

re: #275 windsagio

well, pink isn't the same as blue, but I've been wanting to get this tidbit in for like a week, and this is as close as I think we're gonna get >

The Frankenberry Stool? Weird.

278 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:43:36pm

re: #275 windsagio

Boo Berry.

279 Buck  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:43:47pm

re: #227 Escaped Hillbilly

Thanks, think you're right. The navy has a rear admiral in charge over there but think the Air Force is gonna run things at least for now. This is obviously a JTF mission. I accidentally clicked on
globalresearch.ca (notice it isn't blue?). Those punks are crying that we have militarized our response to Haiti's disaster. Seem to imply we ought to have civilians running the show. They don't explain how. Now I have to go wash my screen off.

They are right, and as soon as some civilian group gets an aircraft carrier they can have the leads on these things...

280 abolitionist  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:44:21pm

re: #276 Escaped Hillbilly

They are not even keeping a tally, in many cases.

281 prairiefire  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:44:33pm

re: #176 The Sanity Inspector

Is that a blue leather patchwork jacket with wide lapels? Why, yes it is. Love this song, Thanks!
I'm in with the Bitburger beer.

282 Boogberg  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:45:34pm

It's Cap'n Crunch with Crunch berries for me. The ultimate munchies food. :D

283 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:46:07pm

re: #279 Buck
Yep.
Actually the civillains do have the lead...their called Haitians. See Southcom's video archive for the good General's speech. People just like to whine.

284 Buck  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:49:09pm

re: #245 freetoken

While I might have had some sympathy for your argument, you blew it here. Reality is, it is the Congress, especially those members who come from districts where union vote turn out is still significant, for whom catering to this particular special interest group has led them to adding this to the health care bill negotiations.

Furthermore, all special interest groups try to get Congress to do their will. The HCR act is a big bill and has attracted particular attention, but pretty much anything Congress does has fine detail (often overlooked by the populace as a whole, and the news media) where certain groups have succeeded in getting some special attention.

My understanding is that the Obama WH was up all night negotiating this.

The White House and labor unions reached tentative agreement on Thursday on a tax on high-cost "Cadillac" healthcare plans, clearing the way for union support for a sweeping healthcare reform bill.

So did I blow it, or did the Whitehouse?

285 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:54:05pm

re: #284 Buck

God, somebody please explain this to me. Why are they taxing health care plans at all? Don't we want people to have a health care plan, the better the plan, the better? Is this just another "stick the rich guy" scheme or am I totalling misunderstanding? I really am confused right now.

286 Buck  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 4:00:53pm

re: #285 Escaped Hillbilly

God, somebody please explain this to me. Why are they taxing health care plans at all? Don't we want people to have a health care plan, the better the plan, the better? Is this just another "stick the rich guy" scheme or am I totalling misunderstanding? I really am confused right now.

They need to pay for Healthcare reform. "Make the Rich Pay" is the first place some people go. In this case the democrats thought only 'Fat Cats' have Cadillac plans. When they found out they were wrong, and that a lot of Obama supporters had Cadillac plans, they had to exempt state and local government workers or workers who are part of collective bargaining agreements.

SO THEY NEED THE MONEY, but are able to throw $60 billion in tax income out and still be balanced.

When anyone says the the CBO said this was deficit neutral, they need to be asked if that was before the $60 billion was removed.

287 Buck  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 4:01:59pm

re: #285 Escaped Hillbilly

God, somebody please explain this to me. Why are they taxing health care plans at all? Don't we want people to have a health care plan, the better the plan, the better? Is this just another "stick the rich guy" scheme or am I totalling misunderstanding? I really am confused right now.

OH! And when McCain proposed taxing 'some' HC benefits he was roasted on a PIT!

288 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 4:05:46pm

re: #286 Buck

I'm glad they threw out the govt worker plans. I'm pretty sure TriCare Prime would qualify. Another reason I wish they'd quit trying to civilianize military benefits. We used to have medical care. Now we have "insurance". Extremely limited, controlled, rationed, and sanitized insurance. So now it can be taxed. Nice. How long do you think it'll be before cost of living increases and governmental creep will erode those exemptions?

289 Buck  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 4:13:15pm

re: #288 Escaped Hillbilly

I'm glad they threw out the govt worker plans.

Really? So government should create these huge barriers for business and simply exempt themselves and their friends?

In this case Obama himself threw a $60 billion tax break at a group that gave his election campaign a few million...

Pure corruption.

290 freetoken  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 4:56:58pm

re: #284 Buck

You're missing the point, though.

The reason an administration would be negotiating is because they are trying to get two or more groups to agree. In this case, if President Obama is to succeed in his goal of having reformed health care, he realizes that he has to get groups within his own party to agree. It is those Congressmen for whom union votes are key that this arrangement would be made.

291 Buck  Sat, Jan 16, 2010 5:27:44pm

re: #290 freetoken

You're missing the point, though.

The reason an administration would be negotiating is because they are trying to get two or more groups to agree. In this case, if President Obama is to succeed in his goal of having reformed health care, he realizes that he has to get groups within his own party to agree. It is those Congressmen for whom union votes are key that this arrangement would be made.


Well in my opinion YOU are missing the point. The unions supported Obama. They gave big money, and got back even bigger money.

You said that I blew it when I called this corruption in the Obama Administration. As if there might be away that this is corrupt Senate, or corrupt Congress. This was done by the Whitehouse.. The Unions don't have to play the hide the leader game. They get to speak to the decision maker. Obama cannot pretend this isn't on him. He was bought and paid for. Proof is right in front of you.

They did add a bunch of stuff that can make it seem like NOT just unions will benefit from the talks. HOWEVER, only the Unions got this 8 year exemption. A lot of other people took a better benefit package in order to balance lower wages. I guess the union member has better representation in Washington. In 2012 it might be a chance to fix that.

Secondly, doesn't anyone question why it was so easy to drop $60 billion in TAX income. They would like you to think that even with that $60 billion tax break for their friends, the CBO will rate this deficit neutral.

No way... there is a $60 billion hole that needs to be filled if this is NOT going to add even one thin dime to the deficit.

292 andres  Sun, Jan 17, 2010 7:01:41am

re: #291 Buck

Don't get your underwear in a bunch, will ya?

Unions make multiyear deals for health care insurance (sometimes they go from 3 to 5 years). What the Obama Administration is doing is allowing the Unions to renegotiate their health care insurances within a "reasonable" timeline.

293 Buck  Sun, Jan 17, 2010 11:56:18am

re: #292 andres

Don't get your underwear in a bunch, will ya?

Unions make multiyear deals for health care insurance (sometimes they go from 3 to 5 years). What the Obama Administration is doing is allowing the Unions to renegotiate their health care insurances within a "reasonable" timeline.

Sure.... Seems reasonable. However, why only the unions? Why not non-union groups who made multi year deals?

Why not say employer based plans? Why screw the workers on the Honda assembly line (as an example) just because they don't belong to a union?

294 andres  Sun, Jan 17, 2010 5:13:57pm

re: #293 Buck

Sure... Seems reasonable. However, why only the unions? Why not non-union groups who made multi year deals?

Why not say employer based plans? Why screw the workers on the Honda assembly line (as an example) just because they don't belong to a union?

How widespread is that non-union groups buy multi-year health care insurance?

Well, there's nothing stopping the Democrat Congresspeople to extend the deal to non-union groups.

295 Buck  Sun, Jan 17, 2010 5:27:00pm

re: #294 andres

How widespread is that non-union groups buy multi-year health care insurance?

It shouldn't be about numbers, it should be about fairness. It should be about equality. Of course it is about payback... it is about a bribe.... Obama is bought and paid for. There is no other explanation for making this so specific.


Well, there's nothing stopping the Democrat Congresspeople to extend the deal to non-union groups.

Yes there is. They NEED the tax income for the health reform. They need it more than ever now that they have just lost the union member contribution.


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