Drudge Report Links to John Birch Society
Currently one of the top stories at Drudge Report: an anti-John McCain, anti-FDA article at the John Birch Society website.
Here’s Google’s cache of the JBS article.
Currently one of the top stories at Drudge Report: an anti-John McCain, anti-FDA article at the John Birch Society website.
Here’s Google’s cache of the JBS article.
2 | freetoken Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:32:30pm |
Anti-FDA fever appears to be sweeping the right-o-sphere, with several articles/essays popping up here and there...
3 | jamesfirecat Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:33:01pm |
Mama always said, crazy is as crazy does...
4 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:33:10pm |
First infowars, now JBS. Drudge can suck it.
5 | brookly red Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:33:25pm |
Drudge links to darn near anyone... he just does it faster than anyone else.
6 | Kragar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:34:01pm |
re: #2 freetoken
Anti-FDA fever appears to be sweeping the right-o-sphere, with several articles/essays popping up here and there...
Precious bodily fluids and all that.
7 | jamesfirecat Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:35:16pm |
re: #2 freetoken
Anti-FDA fever appears to be sweeping the right-o-sphere, with several articles/essays popping up here and there...
I feel a slight urge to take that kind of thing personally since my entire life my dad has worked for the FDA...
8 | ArchangelMichael Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:35:42pm |
re: #2 freetoken
Anti-FDA fever appears to be sweeping the right-o-sphere, with several articles/essays popping up here and there...
There are just as many modern medicine luddites and haters of "big pharma" on the right as on the left. It's just for different, but equally asinine, reasons.
9 | darthstar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:35:54pm |
The great irony here, of course, is that John McCain is the target. It doesn't matter that it's one of the internet's more popular link-whores doing it. I don't believe Drudge reads half of the crap his staff posts on his "blog"...does Drudge even write? Or is he just someone who surfs the web for a living?
10 | Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:36:02pm |
re: #5 brookly red
Drudge links to darn near anyone... he just does it faster than anyone else.
...and conservatives don't seem to mind that they're being fed news from antisemitc conspiracy kooks like JBS and Alex Jones.
11 | freetoken Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:36:15pm |
Right now, there are anti-FDA articles at HotAir and Townhall... both sites moving lock step with the JBS...
12 | ArchangelMichael Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:36:45pm |
re: #9 darthstar
The great irony here, of course, is that John McCain is the target. It doesn't matter that it's one of the internet's more popular link-whores doing it. I don't believe Drudge reads half of the crap his staff posts on his "blog"...does Drudge even write? Or is he just someone who surfs the web for a living?
Breitbart runs his site part-time IIRC.
13 | Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:36:50pm |
re: #2 freetoken
Anti-FDA fever appears to be sweeping the right-o-sphere, with several articles/essays popping up here and there...
Yeah, Hot Air had a thread on that earlier today. Conservatives can't retreat from reality fast enough.
14 | brookly red Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:37:39pm |
re: #7 jamesfirecat
I feel a slight urge to take that kind of thing personally since my entire life my dad has worked for the FDA...
I am all for smaller gubermint, but I do value the FDA... a lot.
15 | MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:37:46pm |
re: #2 freetoken
Anti-FDA fever appears to be sweeping the right-o-sphere, with several articles/essays popping up here and there...
The Birchers and kooks just don't want the FDA preventing them from polluting their essences...
/grain alcohol and rainwater, anyone?
16 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:38:53pm |
re: #10 Killgore Trout
...and conservatives don't seem to mind that they're being fed news from antisemitc conspiracy kooks like JBS and Alex Jones.
I mind, and Drudge can suck it. No traffic from me.
17 | Racer X Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:39:21pm |
re: #14 brookly red
I am all for smaller gubermint, but I do value the FDA... a lot.
Yes.
Smaller government means minimal government, not none.
18 | jamesfirecat Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:39:26pm |
re: #14 brookly red
I am all for smaller gubermint, but I do value the FDA... a lot.
Thanks, he's a research chemist, and my brother (also a chemistry major) may end up working there as well...
19 | darthstar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:39:39pm |
re: #12 ArchangelMichael
Breitbart runs his site part-time IIRC.
So it's really the Brietbart report? It has to be one of the crappiest and basic sites on the internet (and I'm counting my now defunct geocities web page I created 10 years ago). Straight HTML...except for the pasted javascript for his ads.
20 | LotharBot Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:40:00pm |
OT: my sister-in-law leaves for Haiti in 2 hours, for a missions trip to help out at an orphanage. The trip was originally scheduled for mid-January, but they couldn't get in touch with the orphanage for several days after the quake and therefore had to reschedule. She'll be there until March 9.
Thoughts and prayers are appreciated.
21 | Lidane Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:40:09pm |
*sigh*
Is it really too much to ask for a sane, intellectual opposition in this country? It's nauseating to see the JBS back from the political dead, and to see nutjobs like Alex Jones finding legitimacy.
Drudge has always been a muckraker, but this is low even for his pathetic standards. =P
22 | brookly red Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:40:24pm |
re: #10 Killgore Trout
...and conservatives don't seem to mind that they're being fed news from antisemitc conspiracy kooks like JBS and Alex Jones.
sure they do... they just know the difference between the baby & the bath water. Surely you do give others the credit of being able to walk & chew gum at the same time?
23 | jamesfirecat Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:41:02pm |
re: #20 LotharBot
OT: my sister-in-law leaves for Haiti in 2 hours, for a missions trip to help out at an orphanage. The trip was originally scheduled for mid-January, but they couldn't get in touch with the orphanage for several days after the quake and therefore had to reschedule. She'll be there until March 9.
Thoughts and prayers are appreciated.
May she help bring peace and comfort to many who have suffered Mother nature's wrath, and even before that probablyhad a standard of living most of us couldn't even imagine...
24 | darthstar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:41:23pm |
re: #20 LotharBot
OT: my sister-in-law leaves for Haiti in 2 hours, for a missions trip to help out at an orphanage. The trip was originally scheduled for mid-January, but they couldn't get in touch with the orphanage for several days after the quake and therefore had to reschedule. She'll be there until March 9.
Thoughts and prayers are appreciated.
Wish her well. And tell her "No bus trips to the Dominican Republic!" /
Seriously, best thoughts to your sister-in-law. I admire people who are willing to volunteer their time to helping Haiti.
25 | MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:41:47pm |
re: #16 Slumbering Behemoth
I mind, and Drudge can suck it. No traffic from me.
Seconded...Drudge, Breitbart, and their brethren can just f**k off and go take a long walk off a short pier.
26 | brookly red Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:42:15pm |
re: #18 jamesfirecat
Thanks, he's a research chemist, and my brother (also a chemistry major) may end up working there as well...
so perhaps he could help explain why prescription drugs cost so much?
27 | goddamnedfrank Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:42:33pm |
Hey, I just leveled up to a 2:1 karma – comment ratio. For my new feat I choose to weapon focus in satire. Yay me.
28 | jamesfirecat Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:43:05pm |
re: #26 brookly red
so perhaps he could help explain why prescription drugs cost so much?
Not really, there's a difference between being the guy who finds the cure for cancer and the one who decides how to market it.
29 | brookly red Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:43:43pm |
re: #28 jamesfirecat
Not really, there's a difference between being the guy who finds the cure for cancer and the one who decides how to market it.
touche!
30 | Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:46:19pm |
Well this is probably a good reason for the FDA to be involved in regulating dietary supplements.
31 | Surabaya Stew Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:46:47pm |
re: #27 goddamnedfrank
Hey, I just leveled up to a 2:1 karma – comment ratio. For my new feat I choose to weapon focus in satire. Yay me.
That's pretty good, the average Lizards seems to have a 1:1 karma – comment ratio. (Except for SpaceJesus with his 0:1 karma – comment ratio!)
32 | SixDegrees Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:48:46pm |
re: #2 freetoken
Anti-FDA fever appears to be sweeping the right-o-sphere, with several articles/essays popping up here and there...
It isn't altogether unwarranted. The FDA's handling of Avandia, for instance, has been wanting, to be kind. And, although there hasn't yet been a serious problem, their management of Mad Cow disease monitoring and prevention, as well as other food-borne illness issues, has been less than inspiring. They need to start getting their shit together.
33 | teleskiguy Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:49:23pm |
Regulation of vitamins and supplements?!? The Kommunist Konsfearasy continues! Hope y'all have your bunkers built and stocked!
/ (Am I doing this right? The foward slash is sarc, eh?)
34 | Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:49:58pm |
re: #32 SixDegrees
Does the FDA even have a sufficient number of staff?
35 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:50:49pm |
re: #33 teleskiguy
Regulation of vitamins and supplements?!? The Kommunist Konsfearasy continues! Hope y'all have your bunkers built and stocked!
/ (Am I doing this right? The foward slash is sarc, eh?)
Very good. You may do multiple slashes to indicate more intense sarcasm.
36 | SixDegrees Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:51:11pm |
re: #34 Varek Raith
Does the FDA even have a sufficient number of staff?
Unknown. I don't think the problems I mentioned are staffing related, however. They're more organizational in nature.
37 | brookly red Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:51:11pm |
re: #30 Bubblehead II
Well this is probably a good reason for the FDA to be involved in regulating dietary supplements.
regulate vitamin C, and legalize pot? Hmmmmm... It's all a tax scam to me.
38 | Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:54:29pm |
re: #37 brookly red
regulate vitamin C, and legalize pot? Hmmm... It's all a tax scam to me.
I don't see vitamin C...
Androstenedione
Aristolochic acid
Bitter orange
Cesium
Chaparral
Colloidal silver
Graviola
Kava
Lobelia
Organ/glandular
Yohimbe
;)
39 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:54:58pm |
re: #27 goddamnedfrank
Hey, I just leveled up to a 2:1 karma – comment ratio. For my new feat I choose to weapon focus in satire. Yay me.
Rookie move, wasting a feat like that. You get WF:Satire as a free feat at the next anyway, and the effect doesn't stack. You should have picked Greater Double Entendre, but now you'll just be stuck with this.
40 | Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:56:57pm |
re: #38 Varek Raith
;)
Aristolochic acid appears in certain Traditional Chinese Medicines, and "bitter organge peel" is also used in some formulae.
I hope the FDA, if they do get in on this crap, keep in mind that there are professionals who use these substances without harm to others, and that it's a buncha jackasses who don't know what they're doing who end up - or cause - all the problems.
41 | Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:58:11pm |
re: #32 SixDegrees
It isn't altogether unwarranted. The FDA's handling of Avandia, for instance, has been wanting, to be kind. And, although there hasn't yet been a serious problem, their management of Mad Cow disease monitoring and prevention, as well as other food-borne illness issues, has been less than inspiring. They need to start getting their shit together.
They're never going to be perfect and things are always going to fall through the cracks. Could you imagine what it would be like without the FDA? It would be a nightmare of epic proportions. These fantasies that business will regulate itself for the common good are just bullshit.
42 | Randall Gross Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:58:25pm |
Matt in bed with the birchers. It just shows you who's signing the checks nowadays.
43 | Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:58:41pm |
re: #34 Varek Raith
This is a 1989 report, but it is still germane to the discussion. They have known about these problems but have failed to correct them.
Results in Brief Due to staffing shortages, FDA officials have reported that there has been inadequate coverage of some activities. Since fiscal year 1980. new laws and other public health problems have significantly increased FDA'S responsibilities while its staffing levels have decreased. FDA also reports experiencing difficulties in recruiting and retaining staff because of the disparity in pay and other benefits between the federal government and the private sector. Inadequate office and laboratory space and scientific equipment add to FDA'S resource problems.
To fulfill its current responsibilities effectively, FDA estimates it needs
about 2,000 additional staff.
44 | Decatur Deb Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:58:44pm |
re: #38 Varek Raith
Just for fun, Google "yohimbe". I ran into massive quantities of it in an industrial situation.
45 | Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:59:20pm |
re: #44 Decatur Deb
Just for fun, Google "yohimbe". I ran into massive quantities of it in an industrial situation.
Adult Film Expo?
46 | Decatur Deb Thu, Feb 25, 2010 3:59:57pm |
47 | Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:02:21pm |
48 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:02:29pm |
Since the FDA does not regulate dietary supplements, nor their claims, we get a-holes like this scumbag selling vit. B supplements on tv as a cure for Alzheimer's Disease.
No shame, profiting from the pain of others by selling snake oil remedies.
49 | SixDegrees Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:02:46pm |
re: #41 Killgore Trout
They're never going to be perfect and things are always going to fall through the cracks. Could you imagine what it would be like without the FDA? It would be a nightmare of epic proportions. These fantasies that business will regulate itself for the common good are just bullshit.
Avandia, and the E.coli and Salmonella outbreaks that have plagued the food industry in the last couple of years, hardly constitutes "falling through the cracks."
And I never said anything about abolishing the FDA. I said that criticism of them is justified, based on their track record.
50 | Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:02:47pm |
51 | Eclectic Infidel Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:03:27pm |
I see Drudge is out there pimping his site for traffic. It's just skanky.
52 | Decatur Deb Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:04:07pm |
re: #47 Guanxi88
The shop was dusted 1/32 inch thick. Guys weren't complaining, though
53 | Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:04:27pm |
re: #50 Varek Raith
But...are you where it's at???
No, sir, that's your department. You are where it's at, I'm hip, and I believe our sometime-colleague Cato the Elder is up on what's going down. There's a clear division of responsibilities and duties here. We've got a union, after all.
54 | Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:04:48pm |
re: #52 Decatur Deb
The shop was dusted 1/32 inch thick. Guys weren't complaining, though
Their wives might have been, though.
55 | Decatur Deb Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:05:48pm |
56 | Decatur Deb Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:08:41pm |
re: #53 Guanxi88
No, sir, that's your department. You are where it's at, I'm hip, and I believe our sometime-colleague Cato the Elder is up on what's going down. There's a clear division of responsibilities and duties here. We've got a union, after all.
Kids...I'm "hep".
57 | Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:10:12pm |
re: #56 Decatur Deb
Kids...I'm "hep".
Then you've got some seniority, sir. Come, sit your reet-pleated ass down and tell us about the days pre-union.
58 | Decatur Deb Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:16:23pm |
re: #57 Guanxi88
Had to look up reet-pleated, more black tutrtleneck and expresso, here. I have seen the finest minds of my generation destroyed by blogs, tweeting hysterical memes.
59 | Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:17:48pm |
60 | Decatur Deb Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:19:49pm |
61 | Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:21:26pm |
re: #60 Decatur Deb
Studying Plotinus, Poe, St. John of the Cross.
I was always a Burroughs guy. It's like the Beatles vs. Stones vs. Zepplin thing. Everybody falls into one of a few groups.
62 | Decatur Deb Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:26:03pm |
re: #61 Guanxi88
I was always a Burroughs guy. It's like the Beatles vs. Stones vs. Zepplin thing. Everybody falls into one of a few groups.
Celine got me out of the depressives. But the movies about Bukowski have sucked me back in.
Actually most like Rexroth, who disowned the Beats.
63 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:34:58pm |
re: #10 Killgore Trout
...and conservatives don't seem to mind that they're being fed news from antisemitc conspiracy kooks like JBS and Alex Jones.
I mind, and I'm also OK with the Feds regulating Supplements. Yes Folks, D_F just came out in favor of regulating something.
64 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:41:28pm |
re: #63 Dark_Falcon
If the FDA gets into it, they won't just be regulating the content of the supplements, but also the claims made about their effects when sold. See my #48, it would be a good thing IMO.
65 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:44:50pm |
re: #64 Slumbering Behemoth
If the FDA gets into it, they won't just be regulating the content of the supplements, but also the claims made about their effects when sold. See my #48, it would be a good thing IMO.
Quite Concur.
66 | ryannon Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:46:46pm |
re: #61 Guanxi88
I was always a Burroughs guy. It's like the Beatles vs. Stones vs. Zepplin thing. Everybody falls into one of a few groups.
A little Burroughs gem I discovered during my marathon one-week viewing of all The Sopranos episodes (88 hours in seven days).
Certainly the best series ever, since the original Flash Gordon!
67 | wrenchwench Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:47:27pm |
J.D. Hayworth gives an interview to the Birch Society at CPAC. Video at the link.
68 | Spockista Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:03:46pm |
In Drudge's regular links he has "Joe Sobran", and in case you don't know who he is, Sobran is part of the old Sam Francis/Willis Carto crowd.
69 | Spockista Thu, Feb 25, 2010 10:05:30pm |
More on Sobran who has a stayed link on Drudge:
from Wiki:
In 2001 and 2003 Sobran spoke at conferences organized by Holocaust denier David Irving.[1] Holocaust denial movement sharing the podium with Sobran included Paul Fromm, Charles D. Provan, and Mark Weber, director of the Institute for Historical Review. In 2002 he spoke at the Institute for Historical Review's annual conference.[2]
but...wait...there's more...
He also argues that the 9/11 attacks were a result of the U.S. Government's policies regarding the Middle East. He claims those policies are formed by the "Jewish-Zionist powers that be in the United States."[10]
[edit]
Nice friends the Drudge/BigGov crowd keeps....
70 | oldegeezr Fri, Feb 26, 2010 10:07:24am |
They’re gonna haftah...
"...pry the flax seed oil, turmeric and saw palmetto berries out of my cold dead hands…"
Damn it…!