Fantastic Four #24, The Infant Terrible (March 1964)

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The “Infant Terrible” was a baby from a race of alien beings, who got lost in our solar system and started wandering around in New York City, which was kind of amusing until a gangster named Big Joe tricked the baby into robbing a bank and the Fantastic Four had to step in and call the bug-eyed little kid’s alien parents. I guess it made sense in 1964, and the storyline might have been a peripheral influence on Spielberg’s “ET.”

The Lizard Collection’s copy of this Silver Age classic has a small piece missing from the top cover, but is otherwise in excellent condition. Bright inks, un-yellowed pages, interior completely intact.

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1250 comments
1 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:05:26pm

There's an extra on the DVD of "Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog" which includes video applications for the Evil League of Evil. One of the applicants is 'L'Enfante Terrible'.

2 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:06:28pm

Funny, Infant Terrible is what my parents always called me...

3 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:11:18pm

OT
Drudge has picked up the National Enquirer's Obama cheating scandal story. This is actually recycled gossip from the '08 campaign, but the wingnut-o-sphere is going bug-fuck over it.

4 engineer cat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:13:51pm

re: #3 Shiplord Kirel

OT
Drudge has picked up the National Enquirer's Obama cheating scandal story. This is actually recycled gossip from the '08 campaign, but the wingnut-o-sphere is going bug-fuck over it.

wingnuttia is going to be doing its crazy-ass version of the ghost dance until the afternoon 20 jan 2017

5 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:14:23pm

OT, reposted for great justice, because I think it's worth talking about, in view of the "drill, don't drill" debate:

I would not put it past the ecofascists like the EarthFirst! idiots to blow up an oil rig in the Gulf in order to stop "drilling" off our coasts.

No need to see this as my personal conspiracy theory. I am just sayin' that there are certain folks driving Prii around town who are perfectly immune and willfully ignorant of the damage done by offshore drilling in other places. NIMBYism, pure and simple. They pretend to "care" about the "planet", as long as their oil flow is secure.

I totally support "drill here, drill now" as a way for eco-pretenders to learn up close and personal what drilling costs.

This does not mean I love Sarah Palin.

6 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:15:38pm

re: #4 engineer dog

wingnuttia is going to be doing its crazy-ass version of the ghost dance until the afternoon 20 jan 2017

HOWL. It is the ghost dance, except, you know, completely devoid of dignity or importance.

7 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:16:13pm

re: #4 engineer dog

wingnuttia is going to be doing its crazy-ass version of the ghost dance until the afternoon 20 jan 2017

Wovoka will bless you for the hat tip.

8 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:17:02pm

re: #3 Shiplord Kirel


'Hotel security video could topple Obama's presidency'...


Fucking idiots. They do this shit every week and it never pans out.

9 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:19:16pm

Nothin' Man

MP3 Audio

-RLB
10 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:20:37pm

re: #4 engineer dog

wingnuttia is going to be doing its crazy-ass version of the ghost dance until the afternoon 20 jan 2017

I shit you not, many Freepers actually doubt the story because (prepare yourself) they are sure OBAMA IS GAY!

11 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:20:52pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

Fucking idiots. They do this shit every week and it never pans out.

They just keep swingin' for the fences, don't they? Too bad they're playing tee ball :D

12 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:21:59pm

re: #10 Shiplord Kirel

I shit you not, many Freepers actually doubt the story because (prepare yourself) they are sure OBAMA IS GAY!

he's a gay cheating muslim foreigner manchurian candidate black separatist satanic marxist communist leninist socialist dictator usurper xenomorph

13 laZardo  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:22:46pm

re: #12 WindUpBird

he's a gay cheating muslim foreigner manchurian candidate black separatist satanic marxist communist leninist socialist dictator usurper xenomorph

And speaking of which, Happy May Day! 8D

14 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:22:52pm

re: #12 WindUpBird

he's a gay cheating muslim foreigner manchurian candidate black separatist satanic marxist communist leninist socialist dictator usurper xenomorph

Does anyone know if he's left-handed, too?

15 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:22:54pm

re: #12 WindUpBird

he's a gay cheating muslim foreigner manchurian candidate black separatist satanic marxist communist leninist socialist dictator usurper xenomorph

With a Birth Certificate.

16 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:23:26pm

re: #14 Decatur Deb

Does anyone know if he's left-handed, too?

That one has been debunked. It's a slur.

17 Irenicum  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:24:04pm

re: #14 Decatur Deb

That makes it absolutely certain that the end is extremely fucking nigh!

18 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:24:24pm

re: #16 Bagua

That one has been debunked. It's a slur.

THE TRUTH REVEALED

Youtube Video
19 Irenicum  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:24:48pm

re: #17 Irenicum

Ah crap. Now I wanna see 28 Days Later again.

20 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:25:09pm

re: #13 laZardo

And speaking of which, Happy May Day! 8D

Time for some pole dancing wakkachikkawakkachikka

21 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:26:18pm

re: #19 Irenicum

Ah crap. Now I wanna see 28 Days Later again.

"rage virus" is one of my favorite bits of shorthand to describe the angry/crazy/racist/screaming wingnut behavior these days :D

22 Irenicum  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:27:02pm

re: #21 WindUpBird

It does seem strangely appropriate doesn't it?

23 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:27:18pm

We need a grading system for the wingnut crazy:

1. Stark-staring (the baseline state, normal)
2. Drooling, howling (excited, as at public events)
3. Tree-climbing, gone down the road. (describing the latest from Drudge, Rush, Beck)
4. Batshit (Typical when introducing new ideas)
5. Bug-Fuck (Responding to major events, especially any misfortune that befalls Democrats).

24 Varek Raith  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:27:27pm

re: #12 WindUpBird

he's a gay cheating muslim foreigner manchurian candidate black separatist satanic marxist communist leninist socialist dictator usurper xenomorph

Yes, he's number "666". Escaped from one of our research labs some time ago.

25 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:27:53pm

This has been fun, but we're setting rafters in the morning. (I'd say "trusses" but I know the crowd I'm dealing with.) 'Nite, all.

26 Obdicut  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:27:57pm

re: #5 Cato the Elder

Well, that's your own personal conspiracy theory.

27 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:28:10pm

re: #24 Varek Raith

Yes, he's number "666". Escaped from one of our research labs some time ago.

Carelessness has consequences.

28 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:28:18pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

Fucking idiots. They do this shit every week and it never pans out.

To quote a dog in a favorite fantasy novel of mine, "Just because I do not catch THIS rabbit, or THAT rabbit does not mean that I will never catch ANY rabbit."

29 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:28:21pm

And by the way, if anyone here is an eco-NIMBY, pedicabo ego te et irrumabo.

You'll probably enjoy it, anyway.

30 Obdicut  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:28:55pm

re: #28 SanFranciscoZionist

Past performance is no indication of future success.

31 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:29:00pm

re: #12 WindUpBird

he's a gay cheating muslim foreigner manchurian candidate black separatist satanic marxist communist leninist socialist dictator usurper xenomorph

Even worse, HE'S A LAWYER!

32 laZardo  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:29:35pm

re: #31 Shiplord Kirel

Even worse, HE'S A LAWYER!

...from HARVARD!

33 prairiefire  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:30:17pm

re: #25 Decatur Deb

This has been fun, but we're setting rafters in the morning. (I'd say "trusses" but I know the crowd I'm dealing with.) 'Nite, all.

A good old fashioned barn raising.

34 laZardo  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:30:41pm

re: #29 Cato the Elder

And by the way, if anyone here is an eco-NIMBY, pedicabo ego te et irrumabo.

You'll probably enjoy it, anyway.

I had to look them up. At least have the goddamn common courtesy to give a reacharound.

35 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:31:08pm

re: #14 Decatur Deb

Does anyone know if he's left-handed, too?

Yes. So's McCain, so is Clinton and so is Bush Sr. There seems to be some theorizing as well that Reagan may have been a natural lefty who was switched over by teachers as a kid.

W. is right-handed, however.

36 prairiefire  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:32:02pm

re: #1 SanFranciscoZionist

There's an extra on the DVD of "Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog" which includes video applications for the Evil League of Evil. One of the applicants is 'L'Enfante Terrible'.

I think I had two of those.

37 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:32:08pm

So How is everyone this fine Friday evening? Fine food? Drink? I must admit I have been at the Sky Vodka this evening.

re: #5 Cato the Elder

Neither Chernobyl nor 3 Mile Island mean nuclear power is off the table. A small earthquake does not take geothermal off the table. The tragic loss of one oil rig and a spill does not take drilling off the table, any more than car accidents take commuting off the table. After Challenger we flew again and again.

Learn, rebuild, move on.

38 laZardo  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:32:08pm

re: #35 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes. So's McCain, so is Clinton and so is Bush Sr. There seems to be some theorizing as well that Reagan may have been a natural lefty who was switched over by teachers as a kid.

W. is right-handed, however.

Paul McCartney was a lefty. COINCIDENCE?

Youtube Video
39 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:32:13pm

re: #34 laZardo

I had to look them up. At least have the goddamn common courtesy to give a reacharound.

Never, bitch!

40 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:32:20pm

re: #32 laZardo

...from HARVARD!

...from HARVARD! NO! FROM THE DEPTHS OF HELL! BY WAY OF KENYA!!!!

41 Varek Raith  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:32:48pm

Left handed people of LGF unite! Throw off the yoke of the oppressive right handed bourgeoisie!

42 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:32:58pm

UPDATE!

Freeper mods have pulled the Obama cheating story I linked to above, not because they thought there was anything wrong with it, but because it duplicated an earlier posting of the same story.

43 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:33:04pm

re: #37 Rightwingconspirator

Neither Chernobyl nor 3 Mile Island mean nuclear power is off the table. A small earthquake does not take geothermal off the table. The tragic loss of one oil rig and a spill does not take drilling off the table, any more than car accidents take commuting off the table. After Challenger we flew again and again.

Learn, rebuild, move on.

Omein.

44 Irenicum  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:33:23pm

re: #41 Varek Raith

To the Leftorium!!!

45 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:33:27pm

re: #39 Cato the Elder

So, did you ignore the translation request for tonight? Or, charge a premium?
Enquiring mind, wants to know!

46 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:34:49pm

We'll Meet Again

Youtube Video

Namaste, y'all
47 laZardo  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:35:09pm

re: #41 Varek Raith

Left handed people of LGF unite! Throw off the yoke of the oppressive right handed bourgeoisie!

And speaking of International Workers' Day, what happens to the ambidextrous?

/happens to be that way in silverware and computer mice. o_O

48 Obdicut  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:35:12pm

re: #31 Shiplord Kirel

Even worse, HE'S A LAWYER!

Sigh. You just reminded me of the very unfortunate 'joke' that led to me permanently putting someone I"d previously respected into the 'utter moron' category.

He told me the following 'joke'.

What's the difference between Obama and McCain?

Obama's a lawyer who married a (B word) who is also a lawyer, and McCain is a war hero who married a blonde big breasted beer heiress!

Yuck yuck yuck.

He saw no problem calling Michelle Obama a b, but angrily defended the joke as 'making fun of both McCain and Obama'.

49 Only The Lurker Knows  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:35:26pm

Charles, Why do you are you doing this?

If it is to promote Comic's in general, fine.

But I find both the story line and the art work in the Ceribus series to be equal.

Your Thoughts?

50 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:35:52pm

re: #38 laZardo

Paul McCartney was a lefty. COINCIDENCE?

[Video]

So was Michaelangelo, although he seems to have been able to draw right-handed as well.

Which reminds me of a story a friend of mine had--she was walking in a museum, and stopped to watch a young man who was making a sketch of one of the paintings. After working for a while, he took the pencil in his other hand and added some fine detail.

"That's really neat," said my friend. He smiled at her and said, "Yeah, it's great to be bisexual. Um...I mean, ambidextrous."

Her comment "Suuure that's what you meant."

Of course, as my mother always comments, if Michaelangelo had been straight, the Sistine Chapel would have been painted off-white with a roller.

51 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:36:05pm

re: #41 Varek Raith

Left handed people of LGF unite! Throw off the yoke of the oppressive right handed bourgeoisie!

I am CCA and I am left handed. Evening Honcos!!

52 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:36:52pm

re: #26 Obdicut

Well, that's your own personal conspiracy theory.

Bullshit. I said I wasn't presenting it as such.

But I remain firmly in favor of drilling our own shit instead of just putting the ecological burden off on brown people.

We'll drill it sooner or later anyhow, unless the magic unicorns bring us a new power source.

53 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:37:51pm

re: #41 Varek Raith

Left handed people of LGF unite! Throw off the yoke of the oppressive right handed bourgeoisie!

I come by it honestly. My dad remained a lefty despite 1950s nuns.

By the time I was growing up, educators had pretty much resigned themselves to the idea that it wasn't a choice, although there was a certain amount of annoying "don't you want to hold it in THAT hand?"

No, lady, if I wanted to hold the crayon in that hand I would have PICKED IT UP with that hand, OK?

54 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:38:17pm

If you had told me, say, five years ago that I would eventually be sitting here mocking conservative activists, on LGF no less, I would have called you a psychopath with delusions of clairvoyance.
I could not have anticipated that the right would not only run off the rails, but the wreckage would fall to the bottom of a deep canyon and wash out to sea by now.

55 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:38:22pm

re: #35 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes. So's McCain, so is Clinton and so is Bush Sr. There seems to be some theorizing as well that Reagan may have been a natural lefty who was switched over by teachers as a kid.

W. is right-handed, however.

Dubya is just the kind of pussy who would let a teacher tell him which hand to write with.

56 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:40:23pm

re: #45 Floral Giraffe

Never saw it. Repeat, please.

I actually had a date this evening.

57 laZardo  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:40:25pm

re: #54 Shiplord Kirel

If you had told me, say, five years ago that I would eventually be sitting here mocking conservative activists, on LGF no less, I would have called you a psychopath with delusions of clairvoyance.
I could not have anticipated that the right would not only run off the rails, but the wreckage would fall to the bottom of a deep canyon and wash out to sea only to wash up on the coast of Louisiana by now.

FTFY, though I do share your sentiment.

58 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:41:44pm

re: #37 Rightwingconspirator

[...] The tragic loss of one oil rig and a spill does not take drilling off the table, any more than car accidents take commuting off the table. After Challenger we flew again and again.

Learn, rebuild, move on.

It is not only the tragic loss of one oil rig, it is also a failure of a fail-safe device. Its impact and scope should not be minimised or accepted as rare but routine. Something went dreadfully wrong and this does take deep water drilling off the table with the same "fail-safe" in the same way that Chernobyl type reactors are off the table.

59 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:44:12pm

re: #56 Cato the Elder

Never saw it. Repeat, please.

I actually had a date this evening.

Well, how did it go?

60 Obdicut  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:44:35pm

re: #52 Cato the Elder

I don't care about drilling our own shit versus drilling it somewhere else. It's a moot point, given what's coming down the pike. The real way we're screwing over the third world is by allowing AGW to continue. They're the ones who will suffer the most.

Your hypothetical Earth Firster extremist might exist, possibly, somewhere. He's as irrelevant as the hypotheticl Islamic terorrist who pulled it off. And the Baader-Meinhof gang, while we're at it.

Yes, NIMBYism is bad. But we're an entire world of NIMBY. We have exported our manufacturing to the developing world precisely because workers are treated like crap there. Nearly everything we buy is tainted by human rights abuses. There is nothing special about the oil drilling.

61 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:44:43pm

re: #56 Cato the Elder

LOL!
So, you ignored the email!
How was the date?

62 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:45:18pm

re: #58 Bagua

Okay I assume there are many and that there have been for quite some time. How Chernobyl went wrong had to do with profound human errors. This time we have no idea yet. But accidents are always a possibility. I see no need to suddenly shut down all the rest.

63 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:45:18pm

re: #23 Shiplord Kirel

We need a grading system for the wingnut crazy:

1. Stark-staring (the baseline state, normal)
2. Drooling, howling (excited, as at public events)
3. Tree-climbing, gone down the road. (describing the latest from Drudge, Rush, Beck)
4. Batshit (Typical when introducing new ideas)
5. Bug-Fuck (Responding to major events, especially any misfortune that befalls Democrats).

We've already got one.

64 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:45:48pm

Evening, all. Nasty times on the gulf coast. This whole "It's 1,000 bbls a day. No, it's 5,000 bbls a day." is probably moot. The best estimate is a release of at least 6 million gallons so far (Exxon Valdez was 11 million).

Source:

(And these guys are really good. They nailed the Timor Sea blowout last August through November dead solid perfect.)

[Link: blog.skytruth.org...]

The Timor Sea blowout was in relatively shallow water (+/- 400'), and it took three tires to intersect the original well bore and kill the blowout. This one is at 5,000 feet. It will take at least four weeks to get the seabed assembly, the conductor riser, and the surface casing drilled and set before they can get after this thing.

At least two and a half months if the first shot is successful. Meanwhile, some folks are saying that if the conductor riser on the blowout parts, as much as 2 million gallons per day could be released.

I would strongly suggest buying your next six months of redfish now.

65 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:46:24pm

re: #62 Rightwingconspirator

Okay I assume there are many and that there have been for quite some time. How Chernobyl went wrong had to do with profound human errors. This time we have no idea yet. But accidents are always a possibility. I see no need to suddenly shut down all the rest.

Quite Concur. We do need safety measures to make sure this doesn't happen again.

66 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:47:23pm

re: #64 austin_blue

Evening, all. Nasty times on the gulf coast. This whole "It's 1,000 bbls a day. No, it's 5,000 bbls a day." is probably moot. The best estimate is a release of at least 6 million gallons so far (Exxon Valdez was 11 million).

Source:

(And these guys are really good. They nailed the Timor Sea blowout last August through November dead solid perfect.)

[Link: blog.skytruth.org...]

The Timor Sea blowout was in relatively shallow water (+/- 400'), and it took three tires to intersect the original well bore and kill the blowout. This one is at 5,000 feet. It will take at least four weeks to get the seabed assembly, the conductor riser, and the surface casing drilled and set before they can get after this thing.

At least two and a half months if the first shot is successful. Meanwhile, some folks are saying that if the conductor riser on the blowout parts, as much as 2 million gallons per day could be released.

I would strongly suggest buying your next six months of redfish now.

I brought this up at work today.

67 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:48:23pm

re: #64 austin_blue

Evening, all. Nasty times on the gulf coast. This whole "It's 1,000 bbls a day. No, it's 5,000 bbls a day." is probably moot. The best estimate is a release of at least 6 million gallons so far (Exxon Valdez was 11 million).

Source:

(And these guys are really good. They nailed the Timor Sea blowout last August through November dead solid perfect.)

[Link: blog.skytruth.org...]

The Timor Sea blowout was in relatively shallow water (+/- 400'), and it took three tires to intersect the original well bore and kill the blowout. This one is at 5,000 feet. It will take at least four weeks to get the seabed assembly, the conductor riser, and the surface casing drilled and set before they can get after this thing.

At least two and a half months if the first shot is successful. Meanwhile, some folks are saying that if the conductor riser on the blowout parts, as much as 2 million gallons per day could be released.

I would strongly suggest buying your next six months of redfish now.

I'm going to let my father know that he can say goodbye to Gulf Oysters till next year. They won't be available this fall.

68 Varek Raith  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:48:40pm

re: #63 Dark_Falcon

We've already got one.


Lol, kitty likes cookies dunked in coffee.

69 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:49:23pm

re: #65 Dark_Falcon

I would want a Challenger level investigation. In fact this may cause demand a jump in deep robot tech. Right effing now. Because the state of the art must rise to this particular challenge fast. BP needs to send the blank check so to speak. Call the best, get them there.

70 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:49:49pm

re: #69 Rightwingconspirator

I would want a Challenger level investigation. In fact this may cause demand a jump in deep robot tech. Right effing now. Because the state of the art must rise to this particular challenge fast. BP needs to send the blank check so to speak. Call the best, get them there.

Quite Concur.

71 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:50:11pm

re: #60 Obdicut

I don't care about drilling our own shit versus drilling it somewhere else. It's a moot point, given what's coming down the pike. The real way we're screwing over the third world is by allowing AGW to continue. They're the ones who will suffer the most.

Your hypothetical Earth Firster extremist might exist, possibly, somewhere. He's as irrelevant as the hypotheticl Islamic terorrist who pulled it off. And the Baader-Meinhof gang, while we're at it.

Yes, NIMBYism is bad. But we're an entire world of NIMBY. We have exported our manufacturing to the developing world precisely because workers are treated like crap there. Nearly everything we buy is tainted by human rights abuses. There is nothing special about the oil drilling.

"We" are not "allowing" AGW. AGW is a result of human life.

Kill the excess humans, solve the problem.

But I don't decide whom to kill. That's for people like you, who think we can steer history.

72 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:51:13pm

re: #49 Bubblehead II

Charles' Mom had saved all of his & his brothers comics in a nice box. He has a treasure trove of these, minty good condition comics, over 300 of them. Click on the "lizard collection" tag at the top of the post, to see more of the collection.

73 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:51:23pm

Well I'm proud to say I just finished up my last college improv show and got to say goodbye to the folks who came down to see it only two weeks one project, one take home final and two regular finals to go before graduation!

74 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:51:27pm

re: #61 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
So, you ignored the email!
How was the date?

Date was unexpected and all the better for it. She's Irish.

What email?

75 laZardo  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:51:43pm

re: #71 Cato the Elder

"We" are not "allowing" AGW. AGW is a result of human life.

Kill the excess humans, solve the problem.

But I don't decide whom to kill. That's for people like you, who think we can steer history.

Lady GaGa and Twilight fans.

That oughta clip a quarter-degree or 20cm off the expected risen sea levels.

/

76 Varek Raith  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:52:06pm

re: #75 laZardo

Lady GaGa and Twilight fans.

That oughta clip a quarter-degree or 20cm off the expected risen sea levels.

/

Lol.

77 laZardo  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:53:05pm

re: #76 Varek Raith

Lol.

And we can save an entire season's worth of football fields area of trees by not having to print the Twilight series anymore.

78 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:53:25pm

re: #37 Rightwingconspirator

So How is everyone this fine Friday evening? Fine food? Drink? I must admit I have been at the Sky Vodka this evening.

Neither Chernobyl nor 3 Mile Island mean nuclear power is off the table. A small earthquake does not take geothermal off the table. The tragic loss of one oil rig and a spill does not take drilling off the table, any more than car accidents take commuting off the table. After Challenger we flew again and again.

Learn, rebuild, move on.

Agreed. But even if we develop everything we've got, we've still got 3% of world reserves. Drop in a bucket unless we wean ourselves off the Saudi (&c) oil tit.

Nuclear needs to be fast-tracked (and many Conservatives on this blog will be shocked ((Shocked!)) to know that rabid Secular Humanists (despite our religious beliefs) like LVQ and I are absolutely pro nuke), and so does research and industrial support of Alt Energy

79 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:54:06pm

re: #64 austin_blue

Evening, all. Nasty times on the gulf coast. This whole "It's 1,000 bbls a day. No, it's 5,000 bbls a day." is probably moot. The best estimate is a release of at least 6 million gallons so far (Exxon Valdez was 11 million).

Source:

(And these guys are really good. They nailed the Timor Sea blowout last August through November dead solid perfect.)

[Link: blog.skytruth.org...]

The Timor Sea blowout was in relatively shallow water (+/- 400'), and it took three tires to intersect the original well bore and kill the blowout. This one is at 5,000 feet. It will take at least four weeks to get the seabed assembly, the conductor riser, and the surface casing drilled and set before they can get after this thing.

At least two and a half months if the first shot is successful. Meanwhile, some folks are saying that if the conductor riser on the blowout parts, as much as 2 million gallons per day could be released.

I would strongly suggest buying your next six months of redfish now.

All the fish I eat comes out of local waters. Or in a Starkist can. But that's a smart thought.

80 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:54:09pm

re: #74 Cato the Elder

You posted earlier today, that you had stayed up until early morning to finish a translation for a client. Only to get another translation request, from the same client, of an award they'd won, that they needed the translation tonight.
I was wondering if you did the translation for tonight. You were goofing on LGF, trying to decide whether to ignore the email.

81 engineer cat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:54:29pm

re: #5 Cato the Elder

it's true - frankly, we are all pigs. the cow guts, coal dust, and sweatshops are pushed farther and farther away, and the horrors of the industrial revolution are re-enacted over and over again, in country after country

japan has now been able to push it to other places in asia. country after country will go through the cycle of poverty to industrial workhorse to economic success and service/professional economy, perhaps until the whole thing circles the globe and karma comes along to revisit it on us once again

or not

82 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:55:20pm

re: #64 austin_blue

Do Gulf Oysters freeze well? Might be time to stock up, quickly!

83 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:55:34pm

re: #71 Cato the Elder

We all steer this history. With our dollars spent at Walmart and our fast food habits. Every batch of dollars spent is a vote of similar significance to election votes. Example-Ever seen a strip mine? Money moves the mountains Mohammad had to go to.

84 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:56:53pm

re: #82 Floral Giraffe

Do Gulf Oysters freeze well? Might be time to stock up, quickly!

No fish "freezes well" imho.

One of the things I miss most about having lived in Boston as compared to Atlanta. "Fresh" salt water fish here is at least 1/2 day old,, AT BEST!

85 windsagio  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:57:04pm

re: #82 Floral Giraffe

Pff, local oysters!

If you live inland I deeply apologize >>

86 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:58:35pm

re: #62 Rightwingconspirator

Okay I assume there are many and that there have been for quite some time. How Chernobyl went wrong had to do with profound human errors. This time we have no idea yet. But accidents are always a possibility. I see no need to suddenly shut down all the rest.

Rig fires and accidents, yes many. Failure of a modern Blow Out Preventer? No, unacceptable.

No new Chernobyl style plants have been built since that accident, if I'm not mistaken. That technology was shelved. The same will have to be the case with the BOPs implicated in this incident.

87 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:58:36pm

re: #84 sattv4u2

No fish "freezes well" imho.

One of the things I miss most about having lived in Boston as compared to Atlanta. "Fresh" salt water fish here is at least 1/2 day old,, AT BEST!

This is why you never order the "Fresh Catch" on a Monday. Been there since Friday or Saturday.

88 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 8:59:40pm

re: #78 austin_blue

We agree. I'm a fan of getting natural gas going as a bridge to more advances tech. If we got all that coal fired electricity from North American gas we would all be better off.

89 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:00:11pm

re: #84 sattv4u2

No fish "freezes well" imho.

One of the things I miss most about having lived in Boston as compared to Atlanta. "Fresh" salt water fish here is at least 1/2 day old,, AT BEST!

DAMMIT ,,, now I want a bowl of clam chowder from The Union Oyster House and a broiled swordfish steak from the No Name Restaurant!

90 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:00:14pm

re: #80 Floral Giraffe

You posted earlier today, that you had stayed up until early morning to finish a translation for a client. Only to get another translation request, from the same client, of an award they'd won, that they needed the translation tonight.
I was wondering if you did the translation for tonight. You were goofing on LGF, trying to decide whether to ignore the email.

I ignored it. Work is work, but putting it on me with six hours' notice is something else.

I had a dinner date instead.

I'll still to the work, though. They can put it on their website.

91 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:00:29pm

re: #71 Cato the Elder

"We" are not "allowing" AGW. AGW is a result of human life.

Kill the excess humans, solve the problem.

But I don't decide whom to kill. That's for people like you, who think we can steer history.

Harsh, no? Does Cato live in a High Castle a la Philip K. Dick where nothing he sees hurts?

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Not jamming you, my man, but that comment was a tad raw.

92 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:00:55pm

re: #86 Bagua

Concur. Fixing the technology that failed is a must.

93 Only The Lurker Knows  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:01:11pm

Night Charles and the Lizard Nation. May you all sleep well.

94 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:02:08pm

re: #82 Floral Giraffe

Do Gulf Oysters freeze well? Might be time to stock up, quickly!

Ick. No.

95 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:02:30pm

re: #81 engineer dog

1 up for recognizing the karma.

96 Aye Pod  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:02:37pm

Ack! Creationist propaganda for children caught on camera:

Youtube Video
97 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:04:13pm

re: #83 Rightwingconspirator

We all steer this history. With our dollars spent at Walmart and our fast food habits. Every batch of dollars spent is a vote of similar significance to election votes. Example-Ever seen a strip mine? Money moves the mountains Mohammad had to go to.

Yep.

And humanity as a whole is an avalanche of hot meat that eats everything in sight, sleeps it off, fucks, and then doubles in size.

I have no hope whatsoever about "us" being able to "control" ourselves.

In the meantime, I'm going to keep drinking the best Falerna, eating the freshest oysters, and fucking the prettiest women on the block.

98 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:04:28pm

Image: vangundy.jpg

OT but watching Laker game listening to Jeff Van Gundy do an excellent job, but all I can think of is this.

99 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:04:52pm

re: #82 Floral Giraffe

Do Gulf Oysters freeze well? Might be time to stock up, quickly!

No, they don't. Pappadeux (a seafood chain my family likes) might have some this weekend, but after that I don't expect to see anything from the Gulf before next year. Unless something major changes, seafood places are in for a bad summer and fall.

100 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:06:04pm

re: #96 Jimmah

Ack! Creationist propaganda for children caught on camera:


[Video]

He sounds like someone from the British Isles. Any idea where, Jimmah?

101 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:06:07pm

re: #91 austin_blue

Harsh, no? Does Cato live in a High Castle a la Philip K. Dick where nothing he sees hurts?

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Not jamming you, my man, but that comment was a tad raw.

I live in the sewers with everyone else. The only difference being, I know how to skin and roast rats.

PKD was right. But it all hurts.

102 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:06:49pm

re: #99 Dark_Falcon

I would say indy places are screwed, but chains have contracts and generally use seafood from other countries.

103 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:08:09pm

re: #94 austin_blue

Ok, thanks!

104 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:09:51pm

re: #100 Dark_Falcon

He sounds like someone from the British Isles. Any idea where, Jimmah?

Ken Ham was born in Australia in 1951, but has lived in the US since 1987.

105 laZardo  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:09:54pm

re: #102 Cannadian Club Akbar

I would say indy places are screwed, but chains have contracts and generally use seafood from other countries.

Like mine.

/puts pinky finger to mouth

106 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:10:22pm

re: #96 Jimmah

Slumbering Behemoth had this in the LGF Linkage, too.
How are you liking NYC?
What's the next tourist destination?
Hey, to Ice, too!

107 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:10:41pm

re: #88 Rightwingconspirator

We agree. I'm a fan of getting natural gas going as a bridge to more advances tech. If we got all that coal fired electricity from North American gas we would all be better off.

108 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:11:05pm

re: #102 Cannadian Club Akbar

I would say indy places are screwed, but chains have contracts and generally use seafood from other countries.

The problem for Pappadeux is that they rely significantly on fish from the Gulf. They'll have to revamp their menu. By contrast, Bob Chinn's of Wheeling, IL is more global in terms of its offerings, so it will get through this nicely.

109 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:11:30pm

re: #105 laZardo

Like mine.

/puts pinky finger to mouth

Yes. And shrimp from China and Thailand.

110 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:11:41pm

re: #102 Cannadian Club Akbar

I would say indy places are screwed, but chains have contracts and generally use seafood from other countries.

I would think they are calling suppliers on the east coast from Florida up to the Carolinas until the mess is cleared

111 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:12:25pm

re: #104 Shiplord Kirel

Ken Ham was born in Australia in 1951, but has lived in the US since 1987.

He's a Aussie, with the brains of a platypus.

112 Aye Pod  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:12:25pm

re: #100 Dark_Falcon

He sounds like someone from the British Isles. Any idea where, Jimmah?

It's the guy from AIG - Ken Ham - he's an Aussie.

113 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:12:44pm

re: #109 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yes. And shrimp from China and Thailand.

I once dated a shrimp from Thailand. Cute lil thing, she was!!
/

114 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:13:19pm

re: #106 Floral Giraffe

Is that an ominous wind that blows through our neighborhoods tonight?

115 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:13:30pm

re: #105 laZardo

Like mine.

/puts pinky finger to mouth

I had a Facebook friend today saying he wants to go to Red Lobster and eat a mess of shrimp before prices go through the roof.

I recommended he go in that case to a local place that actually serves fresh seafood. Which was not the case the one and only time I went to Dead Lobster.

[puts gun to head]

116 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:13:30pm

re: #108 Dark_Falcon

The problem for Pappadeux is that they rely significantly on fish from the Gulf. They'll have to revamp their menu. By contrast, Bob Chinn's of Wheeling, IL is more global in terms of its offerings, so it will get through this nicely.

Down here, places offer "grouper". But it isn't grouper, it's cod. The Northern States will see an economic boom, I hate to say. (And I don't have the North, not what I mean)

117 laZardo  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:14:19pm

re: #113 sattv4u2

I once dated a shrimp from Thailand. Cute lil thing, she was!!
/

/implying that was a she

//oh come on, that joke was coming.

118 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:14:46pm

re: #116 Cannadian Club Akbar

Down here, places offer "grouper". But it isn't grouper, it's cod. The Northern States will see an economic boom, I hate to say. (And I don't have the North, not what I mean)

Having said that, I worry about overfishing.

119 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:15:13pm

re: #101 Cato the Elder

I live in the sewers with everyone else. The only difference being, I know how to skin and roast rats.

PKD was right. But it all hurts.

Damn. You may be right. But that's a bleak future. I'm more of an optimist.

Squirrels are good, though.

120 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:15:41pm

re: #114 Rightwingconspirator

?
It's been windy here, not as bad as yesterday.
Are you going downtown for the rally, tomorrow?
Pay attention & be safe FIRST, if you're going!

121 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:16:03pm

re: #119 austin_blue

Damn. You may be right. But that's a bleak future. I'm more of an optimist.

Squirrels are good, though.

Gotta be careful when you hunt em though, when you've got em cornered they might suddenly turn violent and go for your nuts....

122 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:17:28pm

And, I have now officially seen Pan's Labyrinth.

Wow.

123 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:17:52pm

re: #101 Cato the Elder

I live in the sewers with everyone else. The only difference being, I know how to skin and roast rats.

PKD was right. But it all hurts.

The deniers are still mocking Ehrlich for his failure to accurately predict the date of detonation of the Population Bomb.

124 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:18:00pm

re: #121 jamesfirecat

Laugh all you want!!!
[Link: cbs5.com...]

125 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:18:41pm

re: #112 Jimmah

It's the guy from AIG - Ken Ham - he's an Aussie.

Thanks. If he was an Englishman, I was going to propose that we sent our resident Scot to settle up with him. "Jimmah goes Braveheart on creationist" has a nice ring to it. :D

126 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:19:40pm

re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist

And, I have now officially seen Pan's Labyrinth.

Wow.

Amazing wasn't it? The entire movie was in the first ten minutes. The rest was exposition. A brilliant piece of Art.

127 Aye Pod  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:19:44pm

re: #106 Floral Giraffe

Slumbering Behemoth had this in the LGF Linkage, too.
How are you liking NYC?
What's the next tourist destination?
Hey, to Ice, too!

I'm absolutely loving NYC. Ice-ski and I have decided to visit the Natural History Museum next. I would definitely like to come back here to stay in a few years. I'm really loving these little community gardens here - they are the perfect places to sit and do the morning crossword before the main debaucheries of the day;)

Ice says 'Hi' too :)

128 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:20:58pm

re: #127 Jimmah

I'm absolutely loving NYC. Ice-ski and I have decided to visit the Natural History Museum next. I would definitely like to come back here to stay in a few years. I'm really loving these little community gardens here - they are the perfect places to sit and do the morning crossword before the main debaucheries of the day;)

Ice says 'Hi' too :)

The beer sucks. Go to the White Horse. Trust me.

129 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:21:01pm

re: #126 austin_blue

Amazing wasn't it? The entire movie was in the first ten minutes. The rest was exposition. A brilliant piece of Art.

Not a bad war movie, either.

130 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:21:09pm

Since there seems to be nothing dramatic to talk about, who here reads Salvation War?

[Link: bbs.stardestroyer.net...]

More to the point anyone interested in reading a story that involves humanity finding out its damned so we band together to defend ourselves against the armies of Satan.

The armies which turn out to be entirely mortal in nature, just very tough, so while a 5.56 bullet might not stop them, a .50 sniper round or a tank shell is another member all together...

131 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:21:12pm

re: #127 Jimmah

I'm absolutely loving NYC. Ice-ski and I have decided to visit the Natural History Museum next. I would definitely like to come back here to stay in a few years. I'm really loving these little community gardens here - they are the perfect places to sit and do the morning crossword before the main debaucheries of the day;)

Ice says 'Hi' too :)

I've been to the Natural History Museum. You'll like it.

132 Aye Pod  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:22:45pm

re: #125 Dark_Falcon

Thanks. If he was an Englishman, I was going to propose that we sent our resident Scot to settle up with him. "Jimmah goes Braveheart on creationist" has a nice ring to it. :D

Heh. Or I might have sent wee Begby to visit him.

Youtube Video
133 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:24:09pm

re: #123 Spare O'Lake

The deniers are still mocking Ehrlich for his failure to accurately predict the date of detonation of the Population Bomb.

There is no "population bomb". That is not the problem. And Arsehole was an opportunist.

If that makes me a "denier", then I embrace the label.

134 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:25:16pm

re: #120 Floral Giraffe

It's very windy this evening. Really blowing. Planters have crashed over.
Yes, I'm going to the rally, and honestly I expect a calm huge event. But as luck would have it I have a very capable wingman to go with me. It's practically my back yard too. This time I want to use my long lens to pick out the faces.

Thing is my Studio 11 blog is not a political thing. So to cover this in depth I'm a bit perplexed as to presentation.

135 Aye Pod  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:26:32pm

Early night for ice-ski and me. Have a good one, folks:)

136 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:26:50pm

re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist

And, I have now officially seen Pan's Labyrinth.

Wow.

That movie is FUCKED UP!

it's also brilliant :D Go go Guillermo Del Toro

137 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:28:33pm

re: #134 Rightwingconspirator

Snap the pics. Pick the good ones and don't add commentary. My .02.

138 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:29:11pm

re: #134 Rightwingconspirator

It's very windy this evening. Really blowing. Planters have crashed over.
Yes, I'm going to the rally, and honestly I expect a calm huge event. But as luck would have it I have a very capable wingman to go with me. It's practically my back yard too. This time I want to use my long lens to pick out the faces.

Thing is my Studio 11 blog is not a political thing. So to cover this in depth I'm a bit perplexed as to presentation.

I am very excited to hear your report, and to see your photos. Please let us know.

139 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:29:26pm

re: #134 Rightwingconspirator

It's very windy this evening. Really blowing. Planters have crashed over.
Yes, I'm going to the rally, and honestly I expect a calm huge event. But as luck would have it I have a very capable wingman to go with me. It's practically my back yard too. This time I want to use my long lens to pick out the faces.

Thing is my Studio 11 blog is not a political thing. So to cover this in depth I'm a bit perplexed as to presentation.

See if Charles will let you post a report. Before Zombie's duplicity was revealed, Charles often posted his reports from events. He might be glad to have member event reports to post again.

140 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:32:37pm

re: #139 Dark_Falcon

See if Charles will let you post a report. Before Zombie's duplicity was revealed, Charles often posted his reports from events. He might be glad to have member event reports to post again.

He? Is that confirmed? I always wondered...

141 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:33:00pm

re: #133 Cato the Elder

There is no "population bomb". That is not the problem. And Arsehole was an opportunist.

If that makes me a "denier", then I embrace the label.


heh,,, join the club. I was called one because I don't think Kansas City will be beach front property by 2020!
// (kinda)

142 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:33:16pm

re: #140 austin_blue

He? Is that confirmed? I always wondered...

I think he's a she.

143 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:33:32pm

re: #140 austin_blue

He? Is that confirmed? I always wondered...

Does it make a difference?

144 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:33:34pm

re: #140 austin_blue

He? Is that confirmed? I always wondered...

I don't know. I just use 'he' when I am uncertain of a person's gender.

145 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:34:07pm

re: #144 Dark_Falcon

I don't know. I just use 'he' when I am uncertain of a person's gender.

sheist!

147 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:35:02pm

re: #142 Cannadian Club Akbar

I think he's a she.

The ponytail does make it confusing, but the face and body are most definately male...I think. :p

///

148 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:35:09pm

re: #144 Dark_Falcon

I don't know. I just use 'he' when I am uncertain of a person's gender.

Please tell me this isn't after drinking a bunch.
///

149 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:35:36pm

Props to OK Thunder. That was an excellent game. Awesome fans.

150 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:35:46pm

re: #148 Cannadian Club Akbar

Please tell me this isn't after drinking a bunch.
///

NTTAWWT!!!

151 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:36:14pm

re: #149 Racer X

Props to OK Thunder. That was an excellent game. Awesome fans.

Would have loved to have seen a game 7

152 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:36:25pm

re: #146 TheMatrix31

Arizona authorities say deputy shot in stomach by suspected undocumented immigrant during traffic stop south of Phoenix

LEGALIZE IT!
(It being the pot that the deputy found the guys with....)

153 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:36:48pm

re: #98 Stanley Sea

Image: vangundy.jpg

OT but watching Laker game listening to Jeff Van Gundy do an excellent job, but all I can think of is this.

Hahahahahahaha!

154 swamprat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:37:42pm

on thread
Vangelis L'enfant

Youtube Video

To those who do dangerous, stupid things for a good cause.

155 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:37:48pm

re: #125 Dark_Falcon

Thanks. If he was an Englishman, I was going to propose that we sent our resident Scot to settle up with him. "Jimmah goes Braveheart on creationist" has a nice ring to it. :D

Fine with me.

As far as I am concerned, AiG is a conspiracy to commit national sabotage. The growth of this superstition, in influence if not adherence, has been one of the most disturbing and disappointing developments of the 21st century. When I was a young geology student in the 70s, no career politician of either party would have taken these people seriously, even here in Texas. Today, no Republican at least will dare to speak out against them.

156 WindHorse  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:37:55pm

Candy came from out on the Island.... in the backroom she was everybody's darling.....

157 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:37:58pm

Behold the rain which descends from heaven upon our vineyards, there it enters the roots of the vines, to be changed into wine, a constant proof that God loves us, and loves to see us happy.
-Ben Franklin

But I don't like wine... I don't mind that beer is mis-attributed there...

158 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:38:28pm

re: #151 sattv4u2

Would have loved to have seen a game 7

Not me. I've had enough of the Thunder. Those young kids kicked the Lakers' ass. They're lucky to have won tonight.

159 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:38:48pm

re: #146 TheMatrix31

Arizona authorities say deputy shot in stomach by suspected undocumented immigrant during traffic stop south of Phoenix

I saw that. So many traffic stops are routine, and then you get the bad one. Hope this guy is OK.

160 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:38:56pm

re: #144 Dark_Falcon

I don't know. I just use 'he' when I am uncertain of a person's gender.

"Zee" is handy.

Ask "Pat".

161 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:39:13pm

re: #146 TheMatrix31

More than one helicopter came under fire as officers rescued Deputy Louie Puroll, who was shot with an AK-47-type weapon around 4 p.m., according to the sheriff's office.


Yikes! This is in the United States, not Afghanistan.

162 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:40:09pm

re: #160 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Zee" is handy.

Ask "Pat".

Image: JuSw-Pat.jpg

163 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:40:10pm

A Pulsar's Hand

Image: b1509_cxc.jpg

164 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:40:25pm

re: #139 Dark_Falcon
I dropped him a note about my intent to go. When I shot the Tea Party express I had inquired about posting it and the "pimp your blog" rule. He was kind enough to welcome my links. Of course I'd love to post a report.

So as CCA suggests above , I'll be posting some shots in my blog I like with commentary as to my experience as a photographer, and likely not my opinions. I may be able to use the video function to add some real street flavor but I need to update my Adobe Premier.

165 WindHorse  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:40:40pm

re: #161 Bagua

Windsagio.... if you're still here.... do you have a comment on this?????

166 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:40:50pm

re: #160 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Zee" is handy.

Ask "Pat".

Sklee and Skler.

167 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:41:35pm

re: #156 WindHorse

Ding whore.

168 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:41:47pm

re: #133 Cato the Elder

There is no "population bomb". That is not the problem. And Arsehole was an opportunist.

If that makes me a "denier", then I embrace the label.

I don't think you are a denier, because your posts on this thread are in accord with the theory that humanity's propensity for unbridled population growth is the elephant in the room. Ehrlich may have been an opportunist but his basic theory was sound, being based on simple arithmetic. There are only so many people the ecosystems of this world can support, and technological fixes can delay but not ultyimately prevent the inevitable need to reduce population growth...one way or another.

169 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:42:08pm

re: #152 jamesfirecat

LEGALIZE IT!
(It being the pot that the deputy found the guys with...)

They had an illegal Kalashnikov. Pot wasn't the major violation of the law for them.

170 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:42:21pm

re: #145 sattv4u2

sheist!

Heist!

171 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:42:40pm

re: #146 TheMatrix31

Arizona authorities say deputy shot in stomach by suspected undocumented immigrant during traffic stop south of Phoenix

Fake plot by those racists to show how evil them damn immigrants are.

172 WindHorse  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:42:45pm

re: #161 Bagua

this is a disgrace..... that we are sitting here arguing about whether the citizens (ahem 70% of them) are Nazis or not.....

what bullshit.

173 laZardo  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:43:23pm

re: #166 jamesfirecat

'Shi' and 'Hir.'

/don't ask how I know this. ): WUB might get it though.

174 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:43:40pm

re: #149 Racer X

Paul Gasol comes through!

175 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:43:49pm

re: #169 Dark_Falcon

They had an illegal Kalashnikov. Pot wasn't the major violation of the law for them.

If they were running pot however, and we leaglized it, then they'd be out of a job and wouldn't have been able to find the money to buy an illegal Kalashnikov.

The best way to make assholes like this vanish is to remove the need for the service they're clandestinely providing....

176 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:44:13pm

re: #168 Spare O'Lake

ultimately
PIMF

177 TheMatrix31  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:45:03pm

re: #175 jamesfirecat

Yeah, all these evil motherfuckers would be so peaceful if we just legalized the drugs that force them to be so evil.

/

178 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:45:09pm

re: #174 Floral Giraffe

Paul Gasol comes through!

Did you hear me yelling at my TV?

The bench has us up by 7. Phil puts the starters back in. Two minutes later we are down by 1. WTH?

179 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:45:12pm

re: #174 Floral Giraffe

Paul Gasol comes through!

Fuckin' Lakers...

180 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:45:31pm

re: #81 engineer dog

it's true - frankly, we are all pigs. the cow guts, coal dust, and sweatshops are pushed farther and farther away, and the horrors of the industrial revolution are re-enacted over and over again, in country after country

japan has now been able to push it to other places in asia. country after country will go through the cycle of poverty to industrial workhorse to economic success and service/professional economy, perhaps until the whole thing circles the globe and karma comes along to revisit it on us once again

or not

"Karma" is a concept for woo-woo devotees. It means as much to me or the aggregate of humanity or the universe as "the universe" does to an actual scientist.

"The Universe" according to Oprah is a different matter.

But then, I've never figured out how to make a profit off obvious bullshit.

181 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:46:01pm

Did the Lakers lose?

182 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:46:01pm

re: #179 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Fuckin' Lakers...

Yeah babay!

183 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:46:03pm

re: #177 TheMatrix31

Yeah, all these evil motherfuckers would be so peaceful if we just legalized the drugs that force them to be so evil.

/


It's the Gin what makes me mean. Outlaw the Gin and it's all wine and roses.

184 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:46:13pm

re: #164 Rightwingconspirator

Your Lady would probably enjoy looking at this awesome garden site.
www anniesannuals dot com
They're expensive, but many of the plants they sell, can be had locally.
It's eye candy!

185 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:46:20pm

re: #161 Bagua

Yikes! This is in the United States, not Afghanistan.

AK-47s are "sporting arms", silly. No reason to restrict them!

186 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:46:35pm

re: #177 TheMatrix31

Yeah, all these evil motherfuckers would be so peaceful if we just legalized the drugs that force them to be so evil.

/

Dude you miss the point.

These evil motherfuckers wouldn't be able to make the money they use to buy equipment/bribe people if you could buy the product they sold at your average 7-11 and have it be cheaper and of higher quality....

187 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:46:54pm

re: #174 Floral Giraffe

Paul Gasol comes through!

TOTALLY.

188 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:46:55pm

OK, this is my attempt at a consensus.

Legalise the Marijuana, outlaw the illegals. Deal?

189 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:46:59pm

re: #178 Racer X

Did you hear me yelling at my TV?

The bench has us up by 7. Phil puts the starters back in. Two minutes later we are down by 1. WTH?

Nope, housemate was screaming too loudly to hear you!

190 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:47:22pm

re: #171 Racer X

Fake plot by those racists to show how evil them damn immigrants are.

Aw, hell, you know that Rush would say it if he liked illegal immigrants!

191 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:47:46pm

re: #187 Stanley Sea

TOTALLY.

Fuckin' Lakers...

192 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:47:56pm

re: #188 Bagua

LOL!
*waves*

193 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:48:20pm

re: #188 Bagua

OK, this is my attempt at a consensus.

Legalise the Marijuana, outlaw the illegals. Deal?

Depends, we've already outlawed the illegals, what more do you want us to do about them?

194 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:48:21pm

re: #190 SanFranciscoZionist

Aw, hell, you know that Rush would say it if he liked illegal immigrants!

Umm..no. What would Rush say?

195 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:48:37pm

re: #180 Cato the Elder

Karma is the word we use to describe the consequences of our own negative actions. AGW=shitting in your own nest. Exporting your dirty work leading to global trade disputes or worse.

196 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:48:40pm

re: #185 austin_blue

AK-47s are "sporting arms", silly. No reason to restrict them!

Peaceful law-abiding American citizens would never do anything bad with their Kalashes.

197 TheMatrix31  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:48:48pm

re: #191 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

FuckinG. Lakers.

198 laZardo  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:49:08pm

re: #186 jamesfirecat

Dude you miss the point.

These evil motherfuckers wouldn't be able to make the money they use to buy equipment/bribe people if you could buy the product they sold at your average 7-11 and have it be cheaper and of higher quality...

AND the police would be devoting more resources to bagging people for shooting and killing each other while the addicts get sent to rehab run by doctors where they should be.

199 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:49:09pm

re: #194 austin_blue

Umm..no. What would Rush say?

Rake the yard and finish the flower display?
//

200 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:49:21pm

re: #197 TheMatrix31

FuckinG. Lakers.

WOO HOO!

201 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:49:27pm

re: #188 Bagua

OK, this is my attempt at a consensus.

Legalise the Marijuana, outlaw the illegals. Deal?

Bad deal. Illegal immigrants are already illegal. The idea behind a deal is that EVERYONE has to get something.

202 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:49:45pm

re: #185 austin_blue

AK-47s are "sporting arms", silly. No reason to restrict them!

It may well turn out that those were AK-47s (civilian version) were legally owned by law abiding local hunters who were only after varmints when they mistook the Police helicopters for Cuban invaders, but it seams a stretch from the initial reports.

203 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:49:47pm

re: #199 Cannadian Club Akbar

Rake the yard and finish the flower display?
//

Dead head your flowers!

204 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:49:50pm

re: #186 jamesfirecat

Dude you miss the point.

These evil motherfuckers wouldn't be able to make the money they use to buy equipment/bribe people if you could buy the product they sold at your average 7-11 and have it be cheaper and of higher quality...

Yup! Legalize Pot and all those "evil motherfuckers" will give up the gang banging and become corporate executives! A house in the suburbs. Join the PTA. yup ,,, nottaproblem!

205 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:49:53pm

re: #184 Floral Giraffe

Bookmarked for her. Thanks!

206 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:50:58pm

re: #146 TheMatrix31

Arizona authorities say deputy shot in stomach by suspected undocumented immigrant during traffic stop south of Phoenix

Been happening on pretty much a regular basis in the SouthWest for quite some time, unfortunately. :( Troopers and police in New Mexico, Texas, Arizona, and Nevada, often work alone and one hell of a long way from any back-up. They constantly have to deal with drug runners out of Mexico and are always faced with potentially lethal violence.

Look at the youtube videos on traffic stops that went bad, a lone cop does not stand much of a chance against three or four armed perps. In the city they can call for back-up and wait till the other car is there before approaching the stopped vehicle. Out in the middle of the desert when your closest back-up is 60 or more miles away that isn't an option.

It is a job that absolutely requires very big balls, (of steel preferably).

207 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:51:03pm

re: #186 jamesfirecat

Dude you miss the point.

These evil motherfuckers wouldn't be able to make the money they use to buy equipment/bribe people if you could buy the product they sold at your average 7-11 and have it be cheaper and of higher quality...

Wait, they would all just go get legal jobs right? And give up the life of crime.

I smell unicorn farts.

208 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:51:13pm

re: #197 TheMatrix31

I am a Celtics fan, from Larry, DJ, The Chief, Franken-fuckin'-stein McKale, Bill Walton and Danny Ainge days.

Look at those fuckers. Wasn't for Danny? None would've ever gotten laid.

Really. Bunch of ugly bastards.

209 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:51:20pm

re: #201 SanFranciscoZionist

Bad deal. Illegal immigrants are already illegal. The idea behind a deal is that EVERYONE has to get something.

I want pot with no THC. I like the taste. That and some crack.
//The first part is true.

210 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:51:30pm

re: #177 TheMatrix31

Yeah, all these evil motherfuckers would be so peaceful if we just legalized the drugs that force them to be so evil.

/

The cartels would still be running cocaine, heroin, and meth. Pot is just on of the things they move.

211 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:52:49pm

re: #195 Rightwingconspirator

Karma is the word we use to describe the consequences of our own negative actions. AGW=shitting in your own nest. Exporting your dirty work leading to global trade disputes or worse.

Thing is, ask any successful banker about "karma". Most of them live to a ripe old age sucking up the juices from their crimes.

If you're talking about the afterlife or reincarnation, that's an entirely different theological question. Most shitbags (the smart ones) get away with everything in this sewer of a world.

212 laZardo  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:52:55pm

re: #207 Racer X

Wait, they would all just go get legal jobs right? And give up the life of crime.

I smell unicorn farts.

Or they could still be tried and jailed for "capping that busta's ass."

/no, it don't feel good to be a gangsta~

213 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:52:59pm

re: #204 sattv4u2

Yup! Legalize Pot and all those "evil motherfuckers" will give up the gang banging and become corporate executives! A house in the suburbs. Join the PTA. yup ,,, nottaproblem!

I'm not saying those evil motherfuckers will become good people, I'm saying that we can reduce their ability to fuck with us by cutting off their supply of resources and material.

214 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:53:06pm

re: #193 jamesfirecat

Depends, we've already outlawed the illegals, what more do you want us to do about them?

Heh, I knew some one would get the pun.

But as to your question, I'd like to see them enforce the law in a just, fair and humane way that reflects well on America.

But first they should legalise Cannabis. I'm not on-board with the regime rounding up the illegals until they do that.

215 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:53:39pm

re: #185 austin_blue

AK-47s are "sporting arms", silly. No reason to restrict them!

You've got something classed as an "assault weapon" yourself austin, that HK-91 of yours. Moreover, we don't yet know if this was a full-auto model or not.

216 TheMatrix31  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:53:42pm

re: #208 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I hate the Lakers more than I hate liberals.

217 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:54:02pm

re: #206 ausador

Here in Lala land, it's getting rare to see a single policeman make a traffic stop. Which is sad, but if that's what they have to do to be safe, we that's what they have to do. It's not uncommon to see a squad car, doors open, one policeman approaching the stopped vehicle, the other, protected by the car door, gun drawn. I admire those who "protect and serve" our community.

218 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:54:11pm

re: #193 jamesfirecat

Depends, we've already outlawed the illegals, what more do you want us to do about them?

What everyone really wants is a situation where we can magically have an out-of-control third-world country with a raging drug war on one side of an imaginary line, and a nice, peaceful, perfectly safe first-world nation on the other side of the imaginary line, said line to only be crossed by carefully vetted people who will cheerfully function as cheap labor before magically becoming law-abiding U.S. citizens who speak perfect English and keep their lawns looking nice.

There is nothing wrong with this fantasy, which is pretty much what we all mean when we say 'seal the border'. However it's a fantasy cause we probably can't get more than incrementally closer to it.

219 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:54:28pm

A new Dredge report, and this one is a whopper, creme de la bug-fuck.

Oil rig torpedoed by Nork sub.

As a Jewess in the US, I believe the gulf oil platform was sunk by a North Korean Stealth Torpedo, the 2nd test of the same type that they used to take out the South Korean Navy ship last month.

It's not a fluke either:

I am reading that the Gulf oil rig explosion is also connected with North Korea, who allegedly launched a sub from Cuba and torpedoed the rig. That is what the Kremlin is reporting. 9 days for Barry to send help into the Gulf - too little too late - sounds like fear - sounds like that big test Biden was talking about way back when.
220 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:54:31pm

re: #213 jamesfirecat

I'm not saying those evil motherfuckers will become good people, I'm saying that we can reduce their ability to fuck with us by cutting off their supply of resources and material.

And I'm saying that the Mafia types that were making beaucoup bucks with illegal hooch during prohibition STILL made beaucoup bucks after prohibition by doing OTHER illegal things

221 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:54:51pm

re: #207 Racer X

Wait, they would all just go get legal jobs right? And give up the life of crime.

I smell unicorn farts.

See my 213.

Repealing prohibition didn't make gangsters magically turn into nice people, but it did a lot to make them less dangerous by reducing the amount of profit that organized crime was able to make and making them seem less like the "good guys" in the eyes of joe-six pack.

222 laZardo  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:55:09pm

re: #210 Dark_Falcon

Pot is just on of the things they move.

But it is one of, if not the biggest, in terms of profit and popularity. Why go through the network of foreign runners when you can just grow a bit in your house or buy it from that (licensed) hippie with the farm out in the countryside?

/Supporting American Industry!

//as it were.

223 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:56:19pm

re: #209 Cannadian Club Akbar

I forgot the comedian...

"You've heard stories of a kid smoking an cigarette and getting caught by his parents? Then has to smoke until he throws up?

"Same kind of thing happened to me.

"My parents caught me smoking pot. So, they shot me up heroin."

224 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:56:22pm

re: #194 austin_blue

Umm..no. What would Rush say?

Rush, if he liked illegal immigrants, would say that evil racists shot this cop and framed the shooter to make illegal immigrants look bad.

Same way Rush actually said that crazed environmentalists might have blown up the Deepwater Horizon rig to make offshore drilling look bad.

225 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:56:33pm

re: #216 TheMatrix31

I hate the Lakers more than I hate liberals.

Well, 1 otta 2 aint bad.

226 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:56:45pm

re: #221 jamesfirecat

See my 213.

Repealing prohibition didn't make gangsters magically turn into nice people, but it did a lot to make them less dangerous by reducing the amount of profit that organized crime was able to make and making them seem less like the "good guys" in the eyes of joe-six pack.

I keep flipping back and forth on legalizing weed. I just can't make up my mind. You make a good point; but I got kids and I know exactly what weed is about.

227 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:56:49pm

re: #211 Cato the Elder

So it would seem. But lacking some big study I merely speculate-What is their divorce and personal drama cost? Heart attacks, insomnia etc. Criminal stresses. Now I would also speculate there are honest successful bankers, Who sleep well.

As to long term karma, as in reincarnation, well I'll not speculate there, apart from noticing how time wounds all heels.

228 laZardo  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:57:14pm

re: #219 Shiplord Kirel

A new Dredge report, and this one is a whopper, creme de la bug-fuck.

Oil rig torpedoed by Nork sub.

Speaking of North Korea, and I know people here don't exactly trust the United Nations, but I really feel sorry for this guy.

A key discussion of the North Korean Human Rights Bill began this afternoon at the Press Center in Seoul with opening speeches from key advocates of human rights in North Korea including the UN’s North Korea Human Rights Rapporteur Vitat Muntarbhorn, Chairwoman of North Korea Freedom Coalition Suzanne Scholte and Kim Young Il, the executive director of event organizer PSCORE and himself a defector.

Special Rapporteur Muntarbhorn, giving the keynote address, was strident in his criticism of North Korea, calling the situation there “harrowing” and “horrific on many fronts.” But, he said, “we must not despair” for we must “expose it to the world.”

"You'll have to wait your turn. The Palestine rapporteur is still in the middle of the 20 reports he's been given this morning."

229 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:57:15pm

re: #221 jamesfirecat

See my 213.

Repealing prohibition didn't make gangsters magically turn into nice people, but it did a lot to make them less dangerous by reducing the amount of profit that organized crime was able to make and making them seem less like the "good guys" in the eyes of joe-six pack.

ummm,,,huh ?!?!?!

Who do you think matriculated from moving booze to moving drugs?

Twasn't the "cartels" back in the roaring 20's !

230 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:57:16pm

re: #216 TheMatrix31

I hate the Lakers more than I hate liberals.

Only because God hates them too.

231 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:57:40pm

re: #218 SanFranciscoZionist

We could seal the border, no, not 100%, but certainly more than we currently have it sealed. I don't have all of the answers on this, but reducing the flow of illegal immigrants HAS to be part of the solution. A couple of posters, thought we should fix the Mexican economy to solve the problem.Which is just funny, it's so not going to happen!

233 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:58:09pm

re: #226 Racer X

I keep flipping back and forth on legalizing weed. I just can't make up my mind. You make a good point; but I got kids and I know exactly what weed is about.

If it's legal, they don't want to bother: Point 1
If weed is legal, why not coke: Point 2.

234 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:58:58pm

Heh.

The Lakers just faced their biggest challenge in the post season.

2 in row, coming right up. Suck it, haters!

235 laZardo  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:59:00pm

re: #226 Racer X

I keep flipping back and forth on legalizing weed. I just can't make up my mind. You make a good point; but I got kids and I know exactly what weed is about.

Regulations on weed consumption levels wouldn't be much different from the Blood-Alcohol levels imposed while driving. Plus, if it can be smoked, it'd have to be subject to the same age restrictions as tobacco products too.

236 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:59:04pm

re: #222 laZardo

But it is one of, if not the biggest, in terms of profit and popularity. Why go through the network of foreign runners when you can just grow a bit in your house or buy it from that (licensed) hippie with the farm out in the countryside?

/Supporting American Industry!

//as it were.

They're already into the growers up here. They'll simply continue to muscle in on them. Legalization won't get rid of the cartels. It might in fact expand their presence here.

237 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:59:06pm

re: #226 Racer X

I keep flipping back and forth on legalizing weed. I just can't make up my mind. You make a good point; but I got kids and I know exactly what weed is about.

To me it's pretty simple.

You can't f**ing OD on weed.

You can't.

It's not realistically possible that a human being would want to consume enough weed that they would kill themselves with it.

Also if you take weed via brownies, it doesn't cause cancer.

You can OD on Alcohol.

Both Alcohol and Tobacco can help give you cancer.

It makes no sense that tobacco and alcohol are considered less dangerous substances than weed.

That's my $0.02

238 Girth  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:59:08pm

re: #219 Shiplord Kirel

A new Dredge report, and this one is a whopper, creme de la bug-fuck.

Oil rig torpedoed by Nork sub.

Can these people hear what they sound like to those of us not in a padded cell?

239 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:59:11pm

Good night all! I'm back to work tomorrow coordinating some assets going to Louisiana for This Thing.

Nasty business. It's a slow motion disaster, but a huge fucking hit none the less.

You should all send best mental wishes to the folks on the coast. They will need them. This will probably end up worse than Katrina, if not in loss of life, than of loss of income. A brutal hammer on seasonal workers. And if it gets to Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida...

240 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:59:14pm

re: #233 Cannadian Club Akbar

Someone offered me weed tonight.

Been a while.

I thought of Nancy.

Just said "No.".

241 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:59:32pm

re: #234 Racer X

Hater here!

242 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 9:59:35pm

Later Lizards, I'm out. Play nice.

243 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:00:06pm

re: #239 austin_blue

Burning it off?

244 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:00:08pm

re: #206 ausador

Been happening on pretty much a regular basis in the SouthWest for quite some time, unfortunately. :( Troopers and police in New Mexico, Texas, Arizona, and Nevada, often work alone and one hell of a long way from any back-up. They constantly have to deal with drug runners out of Mexico and are always faced with potentially lethal violence.

Look at the youtube videos on traffic stops that went bad, a lone cop does not stand much of a chance against three or four armed perps. In the city they can call for back-up and wait till the other car is there before approaching the stopped vehicle. Out in the middle of the desert when your closest back-up is 60 or more miles away that isn't an option.

It is a job that absolutely requires very big balls, (of steel preferably).

You know, I do feel as though I keep harping on this, but the Mexico/California border is one of the most active drug corridors in the United States, and our police also have to deal with quite a bit of bad shit....

....she said, jumping up and down, and feeling a bit like Samantha Bee.

245 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:00:10pm

re: #232 Bagua

I've been researching some water purification equipment, and I must say "Thank you" to all of the weed growers, for making the hydroponic equipment so available & affordable!

246 TheMatrix31  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:00:14pm

re: #234 Racer X

That's what I posted like 10 min ago as my FB status.

247 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:00:20pm

re: #242 Rightwingconspirator

Fuck you.

248 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:00:43pm

re: #240 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Someone offered me weed tonight.

Been a while.

I thought of Nancy.

Just said "No.".

I love the taste of a good skunk bud, but don't like the high.

249 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:00:54pm

re: #239 austin_blue

Good night all! I'm back to work tomorrow coordinating some assets going to Louisiana for This Thing.

Nasty business. It's a slow motion disaster, but a huge fucking hit none the less.

You should all send best mental wishes to the folks on the coast. They will need them. This will probably end up worse than Katrina, if not in loss of life, than of loss of income. A brutal hammer on seasonal workers. And if it gets to Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida...

Good luck with that, it's lucky we have you on the job.

250 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:01:43pm

re: #209 Cannadian Club Akbar

I want pot with no THC. I like the taste. That and some crack.
//The first part is true.

Well, OK. I absolutely hate the smell of pot, which may be one reason why I've never smoked much of it.

So, if you can find some decaf pot, you can have my share.

251 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:03:08pm

re: #245 Floral Giraffe

I've been researching some water purification equipment, and I must say "Thank you" to all of the weed growers, for making the hydroponic equipment so available & affordable!

There's 3 great hydro stores in my vicinity now!

252 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:03:17pm

re: #250 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, OK. I absolutely hate the smell of pot, which may be one reason why I've never smoked much of it.

So, if you can find some decaf pot, you can have my share.

You know what this nation needs? Yankee Chronic Candles.
/heh

253 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:03:33pm

re: #250 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, OK. I absolutely hate the smell of pot, which may be one reason why I've never smoked much of it.

So, if you can find some decaf pot, you can have my share.

No thanks. I avoid intoxicants as much as possible.

254 laZardo  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:03:57pm

re: #236 Dark_Falcon

They're already into the growers up here. They'll simply continue to muscle in on them. Legalization won't get rid of the cartels. It might in fact expand their presence here.

Unless they're one of those "fight the man!" types, they could as well be tempted by the ability to operate legally (little worry of prosecution, albeit under the 'rules') while the government could devote more resources to fighting cartels trying to muscle in on them in return.

Hell, they might even be able to glean some vital information out of the American farms in return for letting them continue under the new rules.

255 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:04:05pm

re: #253 Dark_Falcon

No thanks. I avoid intoxicants as much as possible.

Me too. Wait, what?

256 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:04:08pm

For all you haters.

257 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:04:35pm

re: #250 SanFranciscoZionist

I hadn't smoked in YEARS, came home from work one night, parked in the carport above 2 apartments. Got out of the car, sniff, sniff, it was very familiar, but not immediately identifiable. Took about an hour to figure out what it was!
Gal who had the apartment under the carport, had a balcony in front of the carport. It was just weed. LOL!

258 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:05:35pm

re: #256 Racer X

LOL! Lakers T&A!

259 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:05:53pm

re: #256 Racer X

Dammit! I clicked it!

260 laZardo  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:05:59pm

If Billy Mays were alive, I'd buy weed from him.

Youtube Video

/RIP ;_;

261 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:06:06pm

re: #236 Dark_Falcon

They're already into the growers up here. They'll simply continue to muscle in on them. Legalization won't get rid of the cartels. It might in fact expand their presence here.

Umm... I really doubt that it would happen like that any more than when we legalized alcohol back in the 30's we saw the bootleggers seriously competing with the people who could produce large amounts of alcohol that wouldn't make you go blind if you drank it....

Sad as it is to say it, small time hippie pot growers just wouldn't be able to compete against big Weed when it came to producing the finest product imaginable.

262 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:06:26pm

re: #219 Shiplord Kirel

A new Dredge report, and this one is a whopper, creme de la bug-fuck.

Oil rig torpedoed by Nork sub.

As a Jewess in the US, I believe the gulf oil platform was sunk by a North Korean Stealth Torpedo, the 2nd test of the same type that they used to take out the South Korean Navy ship last month.

Huh? ""As a Jewess in the US"?

Does everyone on the forum do this? "As a Christian in Guam, I think that..." "As a Hindu in England, it's my belief that..."

263 laZardo  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:06:37pm

re: #256 Racer X

For all you haters.

OH MY GOD!

A low-carb Six-Dollar burger!

264 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:07:12pm

re: #259 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Dammit! I clicked it!

And, you've been turned into a Lakers fan, now! Like it or not!
Hi Veggie!

265 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:07:20pm

re: #256 Racer X

I absolutely love red-heads.

Glad I'm not a womanizer.

*blink*

266 TheMatrix31  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:07:28pm

I'm pissed, talk to you guys later.

267 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:07:29pm

re: #262 SanFranciscoZionist

As a Jewess in the US, I believe the gulf oil platform was sunk by a North Korean Stealth Torpedo, the 2nd test of the same type that they used to take out the South Korean Navy ship last month.

Huh? ""As a Jewess in the US"?

Does everyone on the forum do this? "As a Christian in Guam, I think that..." "As a Hindu in England, it's my belief that..."

They do that quite a bit. Not sure why.

268 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:07:36pm

re: #263 laZardo

OH MY GOD!

A low-carb Six-Dollar burger!

Dude, we need to talk...

269 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:07:40pm

re: #253 Dark_Falcon

No thanks. I avoid intoxicants as much as possible.

You're not the only one.

The reason I consider myself a "catnip smoking Liberal" is because while I am very much in favor of legalizing pot, I have no desire at all to ever do a joint, smoke a cigarette or drink a beer.

270 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:08:08pm

re: #266 TheMatrix31

I'm pissed, talk to you guys later.

*passes Matrix the bong*

271 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:08:21pm

re: #226 Racer X

I keep flipping back and forth on legalizing weed. I just can't make up my mind. You make a good point; but I got kids and I know exactly what weed is about.

Mostly, I figure it's causing us more grief illegal than it would legal, and it's got plenty of medical uses, and I know people who have used it recreationally since long before I was born.

On the other hand, people who are really into pot are so fricking annoying that I just want to keep it illegal out of orneriness.

272 swamprat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:08:22pm

re: #261 jamesfirecat

Umm... I really doubt that it would happen like that any more than when we legalized alcohol back in the 30's we saw the bootleggers seriously competing with the people who could produce large amounts of alcohol that wouldn't make you go blind if you drank it...

Sad as it is to say it, small time hippie pot growers just wouldn't be able to compete against big Weed when it came to producing the finest product imaginable.

Freedom Lovelights' Private Reserve
Niche marketing.

273 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:08:31pm

re: #265 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I absolutely love red-heads.

Glad I'm not a womanizer.

*blink*

See what happens when women have a choice?
///

274 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:08:31pm

Actually weed makes you angry. dont ask.

275 Girth  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:08:45pm

re: #237 jamesfirecat

To me it's pretty simple.

You can't f**ing OD on weed.

You can't.

It's not realistically possible that a human being would want to consume enough weed that they would kill themselves with it.

Also if you take weed via brownies, it doesn't cause cancer.

You can OD on Alcohol.

Both Alcohol and Tobacco can help give you cancer.

It makes no sense that tobacco and alcohol are considered less dangerous substances than weed.

That's my $0.02

As someone who has partaken of more than his fair share of both over the years, I truly believe that alcohol is a far worse drug than pot.

276 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:09:45pm

re: #274 Racer X

Actually weed makes you angry. dont ask.

STFU and hand me my 1.25's!!!
///

277 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:09:51pm

re: #275 Girth

As someone who has partaken of more than his fair share of both over the years, I truly believe that alcohol is a far worse drug than pot.

I'd agree if I didn't have a fucking real job....

278 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:10:07pm

re: #275 Girth

As someone who has partaken of more than his fair share of both over the years, I truly believe that alcohol is a far worse drug than pot.

I know just one thing mon, I never met me an angry pot smoker!

(Robbin Williams doing a Jamaican Accent)

279 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:10:16pm

re: #271 SanFranciscoZionist

Plus, we have to be able to have standards, of how much is too much. Which is difficult in a randomly grown plant. And would be hard for a consumer to judge, unless it came in a processed package, with lots of nice warning labels.

280 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:10:48pm

re: #275 Girth

As someone who has partaken of more than his fair share of both over the years, I truly believe that alcohol is a far worse drug than pot.

STFU and hand me my bottle!!!
///

281 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:11:13pm

re: #234 Racer X

Heh.

The Lakers just faced their biggest challenge in the post season.

2 in row, coming right up. Suck it, haters!

Who are these "Lakers" of whom you speak?

282 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:11:15pm

re: #275 Girth

As someone who has partaken of more than his fair share of both over the years, I truly believe that alcohol is a far worse drug than pot.

Old cop joke:
What the difference between a drunk and a pot-head?

A drunk who comes to a stop sign will run it. A pot-head who comes to a stop sign will stop and wait for it to turn green.

283 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:12:14pm

re: #279 Floral Giraffe

Plus, we have to be able to have standards, of how much is too much. Which is difficult in a randomly grown plant. And would be hard for a consumer to judge, unless it came in a processed package, with lots of nice warning labels.

WARNING. YER STOOPID. TRY THIS FAMILY GUY VIDEO FOR NOW.
Heh.

284 tradewind  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:12:32pm

Oh, brother.
Don't really care for the direction that Obama has taken the country, but I sincerely hope this is a big nothing..... it's the last thing our nation needs right now, and he IS my president. I don't want him made a target of tabloids.
First instincts are to just dismiss it out of hand, but the rag was right about Edwards, and they were right about Lewinsky, and this has that same whiff of ' impossible , no way ' about it that makes me nervous for him.
[Link: www.nationalenquirer.com...]

285 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:12:34pm

re: #267 Shiplord Kirel

They do that quite a bit. Not sure why.

Anyone ever say, "As a Muslim, I...."

just kidding.

286 laZardo  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:12:47pm

re: #269 jamesfirecat

You're not the only one.

The reason I consider myself a "catnip smoking Liberal" is because while I am very much in favor of legalizing pot, I have no desire at all to ever do a joint, smoke a cigarette or drink a beer.

SQUARE!

/that makes two of us ;_;

287 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:13:09pm

re: #219 Shiplord Kirel

A new Dredge report, and this one is a whopper, creme de la bug-fuck.

Oil rig torpedoed by Nork sub.

So...uhh...
.
.
.
.
.
.

/speechless in the face of such colossal insanity, really I can't even come up with any snark to go with that one...

288 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:13:13pm

re: #261 jamesfirecat

Umm... I really doubt that it would happen like that any more than when we legalized alcohol back in the 30's we saw the bootleggers seriously competing with the people who could produce large amounts of alcohol that wouldn't make you go blind if you drank it...

Sad as it is to say it, small time hippie pot growers just wouldn't be able to compete against big Weed when it came to producing the finest product imaginable.

I don't fully agree, and I don't want to find out. Bottom line is that I'm not going to support legalizing any additional intoxicants ever. My reasons are my own and they are not tied to public policy questions.

289 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:13:22pm

re: #282 Shiplord Kirel

Old cop joke:
What the difference between a drunk and a pot-head?

A drunk who comes to a stop sign will run it. A pot-head who comes to a stop sign will stop and wait for it to turn green.

Yeah that's another nice thing about pot, (from what I hear) there's no real delay between you taking the stuff and it kicking in.

You don't get "half baked" with pot the way you get tipsy with liquor.

I'd expect you'd probably pretty much instantly know you're stoned and be more interested in watching your hands than trying to drive anywhere.....

290 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:13:39pm

re: #227 Rightwingconspirator

So it would seem. But lacking some big study I merely speculate-What is their divorce and personal drama cost? Heart attacks, insomnia etc. Criminal stresses. Now I would also speculate there are honest successful bankers, Who sleep well.

As to long term karma, as in reincarnation, well I'll not speculate there, apart from noticing how time wounds all heels.

What do you mean by "successful"?

In this life the only thing that counts is what you can get away with.

That is what we teach our kids.

291 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:14:23pm

re: #290 Cato the Elder

Tag, you're it!
*runs*

292 laZardo  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:14:28pm

re: #261 jamesfirecat

Sad as it is to say it, small time hippie pot growers just wouldn't be able to compete against big Weed when it came to producing the finest product imaginable.

Especially with all the hip-hop endorsements the corporations would line up through their connections with the record industry, people will end up not doing weed because it's now a product of "The Man!"

/ q;

293 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:14:50pm

re: #281 Cato the Elder

Who are these "Lakers" of whom you speak?

Pro basketball team based in Los Angeles, who got their name when they were based in Minneapolis although basketball really has nothing to do with lakes

294 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:15:06pm

re: #284 tradewind

Oh, brother.
Don't really care for the direction that Obama has taken the country, but I sincerely hope this is a big nothing... it's the last thing our nation needs right now, and he IS my president. I don't want him made a target of tabloids.
First instincts are to just dismiss it out of hand, but the rag was right about Edwards, and they were right about Lewinsky, and this has that same whiff of ' impossible , no way ' about it that makes me nervous for him.
[Link: www.nationalenquirer.com...]

Just one quick question, you mention two times this "rag" has been right, about how many times have they been wrong?

295 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:15:11pm

re: #287 ausador

So...uhh...
.
.
.
.
.
.

/speechless in the face of such colossal insanity, really I can't even come up with any snark to go with that one...

OK. Confession time. I just realized what the actual assertion was. My mind just sort of skipped over that part.

296 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:15:18pm

Why's pot good? Two Words.

No hangover.

Which, I'll have in the morning.

G'night knuckleheads!

297 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:15:25pm

re: #284 tradewind

Oh, brother.
Don't really care for the direction that Obama has taken the country, but I sincerely hope this is a big nothing... it's the last thing our nation needs right now, and he IS my president. I don't want him made a target of tabloids.
First instincts are to just dismiss it out of hand, but the rag was right about Edwards, and they were right about Lewinsky, and this has that same whiff of ' impossible , no way ' about it that makes me nervous for him.
[Link: www.nationalenquirer.com...]

Agreed. Sad to say, the National Enquirer has more credibility with me than Matt Drudge or Rush Limbaugh. Given the Enquirer's track record on this sort of scandal, if they think it's real then it should at least be looked into.

298 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:16:36pm

Where is my weed?

Image: kTmps.jpg

299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:16:41pm

Oh! BTW... Celtics in 6 vs Cavs.

Feel free to ridicule me if I'm wrong.

300 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:17:24pm

Instead of fantasizing about a marijuana-based economic recovery, wouldn't it be preferable to get tough on trade with foreign jurisdictions who have unsustainable environmental standards and pay slave wages to their workers? By doing so America could rebuild its manufacturing base by bringing home many of the outsourced jobs and furnishing American workers and small businessmen with the opportunity to earn a decent living and grow new corporations by domestic production of high quality goods at affordable prices. The price of this would be to break the addiction to ultra-cheap consumer goods and industrial equipment. Of course the arrogant ones who believe such blue collar jobs to be below their dignity will continue to mock and deny the manufacturing sector into oblivion.

301 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:17:30pm

re: #299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh! BTW... Celtics in 6 vs Cavs.

Feel free to ridicule me if I'm wrong.

Absolutely Celtics. Same prediction.

302 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:18:50pm

re: #299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh! BTW... Celtics in 6 vs Cavs.

Feel free to ridicule me if I'm wrong.

I can't do that now?
/

303 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:19:08pm

re: #297 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. Sad to say, the National Enquirer has more credibility with me than Matt Drudge or Rush Limbaugh. Given the Enquirer's track record on this sort of scandal, if they think it's real then it should at least be looked into.

Really?

I was afraid it might be true but then this guy on CNN made a really convincing argument....

"I assume that Obama's marxist harpy wife would go Lorena Bobbit on him should he even think about it, "

304 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:19:11pm

re: #300 Spare O'Lake

Instead of fantasizing about a marijuana-based economic recovery, wouldn't it be preferable to get tough on trade with foreign jurisdictions who have unsustainable environmental standards and pay slave wages to their workers? By doing so America could rebuild its manufacturing base by bringing home many of the outsourced jobs and furnishing American workers and small businessmen with the opportunity to earn a decent living and grow new corporations by domestic production of high quality goods at affordable prices. The price of this would be to break the addiction to ultra-cheap consumer goods and industrial equipment. Of course the arrogant ones who believe such blue collar jobs to be below their dignity will continue to mock and deny the manufacturing sector into oblivion.

Quite concur with your suggestion.

305 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:19:21pm

re: #261 jamesfirecat

...
Sad as it is to say it, small time hippie pot growers just wouldn't be able to compete against big Weed when it came to producing the finest product imaginable.

No way man, there would be a huge industry for custom growers, just like the current farmers markets. Only the poor people would buy anything from Big Weed.

306 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:19:32pm

"This baseball thing. Are you allowed to play?"

"No. The Koran strictly forbids baseball, lacrosse, of course, and board games with hungry hippos."

I LOVE Bones.

307 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:19:33pm

The Obama sex scandal will be a yawner, even if there is something to it. Dude can do no wrong. Hell, Clinton got a BJ in the Oval Office and he kept his job.

308 tradewind  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:20:31pm

re: #297 Dark_Falcon
I don't like the looks of that phrase ' we've been investigating this for two years '.
Lewinsky/Edwards Redux.
Gaaaagh.
Say it's not so, and soon.

309 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:20:41pm

re: #300 Spare O'Lake

Instead of fantasizing about a marijuana-based economic recovery, wouldn't it be preferable to get tough on trade with foreign jurisdictions who have unsustainable environmental standards and pay slave wages to their workers? By doing so America could rebuild its manufacturing base by bringing home many of the outsourced jobs and furnishing American workers and small businessmen with the opportunity to earn a decent living and grow new corporations by domestic production of high quality goods at affordable prices. The price of this would be to break the addiction to ultra-cheap consumer goods and industrial equipment. Of course the arrogant ones who believe such blue collar jobs to be below their dignity will continue to mock and deny the manufacturing sector into oblivion.

Whose fantasizing?

The money we spend to try and prosecute people who traffic in pot is real. The money people pay for pot is real.

Eliminate the first from our budget and add a taxed percentage of the second to our coffers.

Not saying it will solve all our problems but bound to do some good....

310 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:21:15pm

re: #303 jamesfirecat

Really?

I was afraid it might be true but then this guy on CNN made a really convincing argument...

"I assume that Obama's marxist harpy wife would go Lorena Bobbit on him should he even think about it, "

That's why I say it should be looked into. Without much fanfare, and drawing as little attention as possible unless confirmed. Because it has a better-than-even chance of being wrong.

311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:21:16pm

re: #307 Racer X

I'd like a BJ in the Oval Office.

312 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:21:20pm

re: #293 sattv4u2

Pro basketball team based in Los Angeles, who got their name when they were based in Minneapolis although basketball really has nothing to do with lakes

A "laker" is a colloquial name for the lake trout, which is not to say that the LA team smells like a school of fish.

313 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:21:27pm

re: #311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'd like a BJ in the Oval Office.

314 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:21:48pm

re: #313 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm just sayin...

315 laZardo  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:21:53pm

re: #300 Spare O'Lake

Instead of fantasizing about a marijuana-based economic recovery, wouldn't it be preferable to get tough on trade with foreign jurisdictions who have unsustainable environmental standards and pay slave wages to their workers? By doing so America could rebuild its manufacturing base by bringing home many of the outsourced jobs and furnishing American workers and small businessmen with the opportunity to earn a decent living and grow new corporations by domestic production of high quality goods at affordable prices. The price of this would be to break the addiction to ultra-cheap consumer goods and industrial equipment. Of course the arrogant ones who believe such blue collar jobs to be below their dignity will continue to mock and deny the manufacturing sector into oblivion.

"Well, if you'd like to take the one chance many developing countries have to develop and saddle Americans with even higher consumer prices, thus jeopardizing the recovery..."

//[can't find the right word]'s advocate

316 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:21:59pm

re: #307 Racer X

The Obama sex scandal will be a yawner, even if there is something to it. Dude can do no wrong. Hell, Clinton got a BJ in the Oval Office and he kept his job.

Maybe that was because adultery isn't an impeachable offense. If he had been out front and open about it from day one his numbers might of taken a dive but there would have been jack all the Republicans could do about it since he was a lame duck president anyway....

317 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:22:02pm

re: #300 Spare O'Lake

Shhh! Look, unicorns.


I could be happy, the rest of my life with a cinnamon bud.

318 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:22:17pm

re: #307 Racer X

The Obama sex scandal will be a yawner, even if there is something to it. Dude can do no wrong. Hell, Clinton got a BJ in the Oval Office and he kept his job.

It would not bring him down, but it might get him off the campaign trail for a time and thereby help the GOP.

319 swamprat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:22:20pm

re: #284 tradewind

No. We are not that kind of blog. Not my favorite Pres, but there are limits.

And I don't even care.

Gay; don't care.
Martian; don't care.
Odd foods; don't care.
Underwear color; don't care.
Dyes the gray; don't care.
Contact lens; don't care.

320 tradewind  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:22:27pm

re: #303 jamesfirecat
Who said that?
Maybe he has inside information and is confident enough to joke about it.

321 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:22:50pm

I'm not sure we should legalize weed. Decriminalize it maybe. OK to grow your own personal stash. But keep it illegal for anyone under 21.

Kids are stupid enough nowadays.

322 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:23:13pm

re: #315 laZardo

"Well, if you'd like to take the one chance many developing countries have to develop and saddle Americans with even higher consumer prices, thus jeopardizing the recovery..."

//Union's advocate

Modified.

323 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:23:20pm

re: #311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'd like a BJ in the Oval Office.

I'm not sure I like the way you are looking at me.

324 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:23:43pm

re: #307 Racer X

The Obama sex scandal will be a yawner, even if there is something to it. Dude can do no wrong. Hell, Clinton got a BJ in the Oval Office and he kept his job.

There's nothing in the Constitution about blow jobs in the Oval Office.

Also, though, Clinton was a horndog, and we knew it going in. Obama gives every indication of being a straightedge sekret Muslim Marxist.

325 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:23:51pm

re: #321 Racer X

I'm not sure we should legalize weed. Decriminalize it maybe. OK to grow your own personal stash. But keep it illegal for anyone under 21.

Kids are stupid enough nowadays.

That's exactly the path that we should start with. Alaska does it!

326 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:24:01pm

re: #320 tradewind

Who said that?
Maybe he has inside information and is confident enough to joke about it.

Its a quote from Erik son of Erick from Red State. He didn't say it while he was working for CNN but he does now work from him and he did say it...

327 laZardo  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:24:49pm

re: #322 Dark_Falcon

Modified.

Not to sound like a broken record, but I miss early-20th-Century unions. At least in America there were relatively democratic institutions that eventually listened, even if it took Shirtwaist Triangle fires to do so.

328 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:24:50pm

re: #325 Stanley Sea

That's exactly the path that we should start with. Alaska does it!

You, uh, betcha!

Where's my car?

329 tradewind  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:25:52pm

re: #318 Dark_Falcon
It would preclude a second term.
He's made a big deal of family, and the hypocrisy thing would not go over well.
If you're gonna do that stuff ( not saying he has, speaking generally, your best plan is to lay it out up front a' la Sarkozy...... or Patterson.//

330 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:26:05pm

re: #321 Racer X

I'm not sure we should legalize weed. Decriminalize it maybe. OK to grow your own personal stash. But keep it illegal for anyone under 21.

Kids are stupid enough nowadays.

I'm not all that up on law, what's the difference between legalizing something and decriminalizing it?

331 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:26:05pm

Lets just say I would be way smarterer if I had not worn that lab coat for so long.

332 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:26:18pm

re: #329 tradewind

Good grief.

333 Gus  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:26:24pm

Concern trolling with an Enquirer story.

Classic.

334 tradewind  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:26:39pm

re: #326 jamesfirecat
Oh, well in that case.....//

335 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:27:21pm

re: #330 jamesfirecat

I'm not all that up on law, what's the difference between legalizing something and decriminalizing it?

Legalize would mean regulate and tax it. Screw that.

Decriminalize means still not legal but there is no punishment. I think.

336 tradewind  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:27:40pm

re: #333 Gus 802
It's not concern trolling. It's actually going to be a topic of much conversation tomorrow, I would imagine.
But thanks for your concern.

337 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:27:43pm

re: #329 tradewind

It would preclude a second term.
He's made a big deal of family, and the hypocrisy thing would not go over well.
If you're gonna do that stuff ( not saying he has, speaking generally, your best plan is to lay it out up front a' la Sarkozy... or Patterson.//

Quite Concur.

338 tradewind  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:28:23pm

re: #330 jamesfirecat
IN a nutshell, jail time.

339 Gus  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:28:37pm

re: #336 tradewind

It's not concern trolling. It's actually going to be a topic of much conversation tomorrow, I would imagine.
But thanks for your concern.

Topic of conversation? About what? Some stupid fucking story from the Enquirer? Get real.

340 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:28:44pm

re: #299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh! BTW... Celtics in 6 vs Cavs.

Feel free to ridicule me if I'm wrong.

I feel free to even when you're RIGHT,, you remember , that one time ,, long ago ,,,

341 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:28:46pm

re: #335 Racer X

Legalize would mean regulate and tax it. Screw that.

Decriminalize means still not legal but there is no punishment. I think.

Why "Screw that?" exactly? We regulate and tax tobacco and alcohol, why can't we do it with weed as well?

342 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:29:15pm

You heard it here on LGF first!

The Bagua Party™ will be nominating candidates on the

Legalize and Law and Order platform.

We will secure the border, to the best of our abilities, and have a nice spliff when we get off duty.

Border Crash

MP3 Audio
343 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:29:22pm

re: #336 tradewind

It's not concern trolling. It's actually going to be a topic of much conversation tomorrow, I would imagine.
But thanks for your concern.

"A topic of much conversation" You say?

"On this blog?" I respond.

344 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:29:22pm

re: #336 tradewind

It's not concern trolling. It's actually going to be a topic of much conversation tomorrow, I would imagine.
But thanks for your concern.

Perhaps on the right wing blogs. It will go nowhere. Obama is precious to too many people.

345 bratwurst  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:30:05pm

re: #336 tradewind

It's not concern trolling. It's actually going to be a topic of much conversation tomorrow, I would imagine.
But thanks for your concern.

It's been on the newsstand all week. While it is a fact that they were on top of the Edwards thing before anyone, it is also a fact that the vast majority of their stories are so wrong they have been sued over them from time to time. You can relax.

346 Gus  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:30:12pm

Oh yeah. So called anti-idiotarians using a Drudge linked story to the Enquirer are going to make that the topic of conversation.

Might as well start welcoming Freepers and birthers.

347 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:30:17pm

re: #339 Gus 802

Topic of conversation? About what? Some stupid fucking story from the Enquirer? Get real.

Well, they did nail John Edwards' ass to the tree. They've got a better nose for cheating scandals than anyone else. On this, they should not be dismissed out of hand.

348 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:30:20pm

re: #317 Bagua

Shhh! Look, unicorns.


I could be happy, the rest of my life with a cinnamon bud.

Make up your mind...The Irish Rovers or Neil Young just don't belong in the same post.

349 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:30:29pm

Out for the night. Hoping your morning is fruitful and fruit filled!!

350 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:30:39pm

re: #339 Gus 802

Topic of conversation? About what? Some stupid fucking story from the Enquirer? Get real.

And...away we go! LGF turns into a "lets debate Obama's affair" for the eve. Thanks Trade!

351 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:31:17pm

re: #347 Dark_Falcon

Well, they did nail John Edwards' ass to the tree. They've got a better nose for cheating scandals than anyone else. On this, they should not be dismissed out of hand.

I'd like to know that their record is?

Is it possible they're just "shotgunning" it and saying that everyone is cheating with everyone?

If they did that then they'd have broken the Tiger Woods story first also!

352 Gus  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:31:18pm

re: #347 Dark_Falcon

Well, they did nail John Edwards' ass to the tree. They've got a better nose for cheating scandals than anyone else. On this, they should not be dismissed out of hand.

For god's sake DF. I can't believe you're buying into this.

353 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:31:24pm

re: #345 bratwurst

It's been on the newsstand all week. While it is a fact that they were on top of the Edwards thing before anyone, it is also a fact that the vast majority of their stories are so wrong they have been sued over them from time to time. You can relax.

However, the Edwards story will provide them with that little are-they-or-aren't-they edge for a good long time to come.

354 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:31:27pm

re: #321 Racer X

I'm not sure we should legalize weed. Decriminalize it maybe. OK to grow your own personal stash. But keep it illegal for anyone under 21.

Kids are stupid enough nowadays.

Repost..
Plus, we have to be able to have standards, of how much is too much. Which is difficult in a randomly grown plant. And would be hard for a consumer to judge, unless it came in a processed package, with lots of nice warning labels.

The THC content, whether in the weed, or the bloodstream or wherever it can be measured, has to be quantified, and legal limits would have to be set. The weed that is being grown in Holland, IIRC, has THC levels 100 times the weed of 10 years ago.

355 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:31:27pm

re: #341 jamesfirecat

Why "Screw that?" exactly? We regulate and tax tobacco and alcohol, why can't we do it with weed as well?

Because we'll end up with shitty weed that costs way too much, and the politicians get another hypocritical revenue stream.

356 tradewind  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:32:31pm

re: #343 jamesfirecat
I didn't say.
But the imaginary conversation was fascinating.
Do that often?

357 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:33:02pm

re: #348 Spare O'Lake

Make up your mind...The Irish Rovers or Neil Young just don't belong in the same post.

I'm convinced there's sense in that.

358 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:33:37pm

re: #356 tradewind

I didn't say.
But the imaginary conversation was fascinating.
Do that often?

"It's actually going to be a topic of much conversation tomorrow, I would imagine."

I'm asking you.

Do you think it's going to be a topic of much conversation here on LGF?

Do you think Charles will do a post about it? And not in the "Outrageous Outrage!" kind of way?

359 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:33:52pm

re: #355 Racer X

Because we'll end up with shitty weed that costs way too much, and the politicians get another hypocritical revenue stream.

Oh, and take a look at the annual deaths related to tobacco and alcohol use. not something to hold up and say 'see, this is legal'.

360 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:34:07pm

re: #357 Bagua

I'm convinced there's sense in that.

You are? I'm not.

361 laZardo  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:34:09pm

Brb lunch.

362 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:34:27pm

re: #300 Spare O'Lake

Instead of fantasizing about a marijuana-based economic recovery, wouldn't it be preferable to get tough on trade with foreign jurisdictions who have unsustainable environmental standards and pay slave wages to their workers? By doing so America could rebuild its manufacturing base by bringing home many of the outsourced jobs and furnishing American workers and small businessmen with the opportunity to earn a decent living and grow new corporations by domestic production of high quality goods at affordable prices. The price of this would be to break the addiction to ultra-cheap consumer goods and industrial equipment. Of course the arrogant ones who believe such blue collar jobs to be below their dignity will continue to mock and deny the manufacturing sector into oblivion.

Your talking tariffs and trade sanctions, those disappeared with Carter, ever since then all Presidents regardless of party have been "Free Trade" advocates.

Even when they do it to us we aren't allowed to retaliate in kind.

I suppose we are waiting for the day when the average worker in Mexico, India, China, and the U.S.A. all make an equivalent wage, then rainbows and Unicorns will be prevalent everywhere and worldwide peace will reign, or something like that...

Basically we are purposefully dragging ourselves down in order to raise them up, that is the entire point, of course you'll never get any of the "free trade" activists to admit that though. :(

363 tradewind  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:34:38pm

re: #347 Dark_Falcon
Same thing with Lewinsky.
Weeks of drip, drip, death-by-a-thousand papercuts before the networks and newspapers were dragged along.
For the record, I hope this is one of the times they are off track.

Outie.

364 swamprat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:35:03pm

If he gets the Swedish bikini team to give him an all-over tongue bath, and it helps him deal with some of the shit he has to handle, he has my blessing.

North Korea.
Iran.
Volcanoes.
Oil spills.

If the man needs to soak in a hot-tub full of peptobismol while a 300 lb sumo wrestler gives him a pedicure, its none of my business.

365 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:35:08pm

Here's the apparent source used by those two tin-foilers I quoted in my #219:

Did North Korea Attack Gulf Oil Rig?

The Saudis are apparently involved too.

366 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:35:18pm

re: #352 Gus 802

For god's sake DF. I can't believe you're buying into this.

I'm not. I won't regard it as credible without corroboration. Either by clear photographic evidence or verification by a reputable news source. There's a chance this story is true, but that's not the way the smart money bets.

367 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:35:44pm

re: #355 Racer X

Because we'll end up with shitty weed that costs way too much, and the politicians get another hypocritical revenue stream.

You lack faith in the backbone of this great nation, the farmers! Victory gardens would spring up everywhere and there would be no lack. Yes the jobs and manufacturing will still shift to China, but the culture will shift to India.

368 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:35:44pm

re: #352 Gus 802

For god's sake DF. I can't believe you're buying into this.

OTOH it's gotta have more legs than the birther shit.

369 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:35:57pm

re: #365 Shiplord Kirel

Here's the apparent source used by those two tin-foilers I quoted in my #219:

Did North Korea Attack Gulf Oil Rig?

The Saudis are apparently involved too.

Conspiracy!

370 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:36:01pm

re: #364 swamprat

If the man needs to soak in a hot-tub full of peptobismol while a 300 lb sumo wrestler gives him a pedicure, its none of my business.

I have no response to this.

371 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:36:02pm

re: #363 tradewind

And you are full of shit. You would dance if this was true.

372 WindHorse  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:36:05pm

Cato,

How many kids do you have?

373 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:36:12pm

re: #365 Shiplord Kirel

Here's the apparent source used by those two tin-foilers I quoted in my #219:

Did North Korea Attack Gulf Oil Rig?

The Saudis are apparently involved too.

North Korea teamed up with the Saudis, and all they did to us was blow up a single oil rig?

374 bratwurst  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:36:35pm

re: #363 tradewind


For the record, I hope this is one of the times they are off track.

For the record, I hope the Weekly World News is also wrong about the alien invasion stuff. That would not be cool at all.

375 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:36:53pm

re: #367 Bagua

You lack faith in the backbone of this great nation, the farmers! Victory gardens would spring up everywhere and there would be no lack. Yes the jobs and manufacturing will still shift to China, but the culture will shift to India.

Federal Weed subsidies!

376 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:37:02pm

re: #360 Floral Giraffe

You are? I'm not.

Ok, you caught me, I was bluffing.

377 Gus  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:37:09pm

re: #363 tradewind

Same thing with Lewinsky.
Weeks of drip, drip, death-by-a-thousand papercuts before the networks and newspapers were dragged along.
For the record, I hope this is one of the times they are off track.

Outie.

Suddenly you're concerned about both President Obama and the Office of the President?

Not buying it. You're trolling.

378 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:38:09pm

re: #377 Gus 802

Suddenly you're concerned about both President Obama and the Office of the President?

Not buying it. You're trolling.

After visiting RS etc. I swear, obvious.

379 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:38:23pm

re: #372 WindHorse

Cato,

How many kids do you have?

WTF?

380 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:38:42pm

re: #368 Spare O'Lake

OTOH it's gotta have more legs than the birther shit.

That birther shit is like the T-800 from the first Terminator movie, you know near the end when it so beat up its got only its upper torso left?

No legs, not even anything approaching a single leg, and yet it continues to drag itself along and will not f***ing die....

Where's a hydraulic press when you need one?

381 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:39:42pm

I'm out. Yay Lakers!

382 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:39:59pm

re: #369 Dark_Falcon

Conspiracy!

Incidentally, the original source for this, kook-blogger Sorcha Faal, is the same one who fabricated the story claiming that the Russian Northern Fleet and Hugo Chavez had accused the US of causing the Haitian earthquake. It was so popular that Northern Fleet HQ had to issue a public denial.
Note that she again claims the Northern Fleet as a source for this current craziness.

383 WindHorse  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:40:14pm

re: #290 Cato the Elder

you had implied teaching kids - I was just wondering how many you have raised?

384 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:40:15pm

re: #380 jamesfirecat

That birther shit is like the T-800 from the first Terminator movie, you know near the end when it so beat up its got only its upper torso left?

No legs, not even anything approaching a single leg, and yet it continues to drag itself along and will not f***ing die...

Where's a hydraulic press when you need one?

Or a vat of molten steel...

/T2

385 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:40:35pm

re: #362 ausador

Your talking tariffs and trade sanctions, those disappeared with Carter, ever since then all Presidents regardless of party have been "Free Trade" advocates.

Even when they do it to us we aren't allowed to retaliate in kind.

I suppose we are waiting for the day when the average worker in Mexico, India, China, and the U.S.A. all make an equivalent wage, then rainbows and Unicorns will be prevalent everywhere and worldwide peace will reign, or something like that...

Basically we are purposefully dragging ourselves down in order to raise them up, that is the entire point, of course you'll never get any of the "free trade" activists to admit that though. :(

Oops, I forgot to say that China is now spending billions and has almost three million of it's people in Africa now. When the Chinese have to spend too much for labor in China it will be the Africans getting slave wages to make cheap crap for the Americans/Chinese/Japanese/Europeans to buy while destroying their own countries enviroment.

386 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:41:35pm

re: #379 Cato the Elder

WTF?

He just means that you will admit to. No need to give us all the details with all the slave kids and such over the centuries.

387 tradewind  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:41:36pm

re: #358 jamesfirecat
(You do like ankle-biting, don't you? Down!)
I didn't indicate any particular media outlet. I don't choose the topics here, James, and I suspect you do not, either. FYI.... much interesting ' conversation ' also occurs in an alternate, off-line universe.

388 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:42:06pm

re: #370 Racer X

I have no response to this.

Well, they're waiting for you.
Get a move on!
The massage should be great!

389 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:43:49pm

re: #387 tradewind

(You do like ankle-biting, don't you? Down!)
I didn't indicate any particular media outlet. I don't choose the topics here, James, and I suspect you do not, either. FYI... much interesting ' conversation ' also occurs in an alternate, off-line universe.

I'm just saying that I don't personally see the story you've posted as being worthy of a mention on LGF, Washington Monthly or the Daily Show.

Now I'm sure there are far right blogs that would eat it up with both hands and ask for more because they're looking for any reason they can find to blame Obama for some wrong doing, but I don't really think there will be much in the way of serious discussion of that story you posted....

390 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:44:15pm

re: #380 jamesfirecat

That birther shit is like the T-800 from the first Terminator movie, you know near the end when it so beat up its got only its upper torso left?

No legs, not even anything approaching a single leg, and yet it continues to drag itself along and will not f***ing die...

Where's a hydraulic press when you need one?


Just a flesh wound?

391 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:44:19pm

Sorry, but I'm too weary to continue. Back after I've slept. Goodnight, all.

392 tradewind  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:44:30pm

re: #366 Dark_Falcon
No, you've definitely bought into it!! I 'm swearing it's gospel!
It's not a news report on drudge, it's freaking something to swear on a stack you believe!!
Eleventy!!!
(Don't you hate it when people rewrite your posts after reading your mind..... incorrectly )?

Now, really out. Goodnight, DF.

393 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:45:34pm

re: #383 WindHorse

you had implied teaching kids - I was just wondering how many you have raised?

Jesus.

Go walk your dog.

394 Gus  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:45:39pm

re: #389 jamesfirecat

I'm just saying that I don't personally see the story you've posted as being worthy of a mention on LGF, Washington Monthly or the Daily Show.

Now I'm sure there are far right blogs that would eat it up with both hands and ask for more because they're looking for any reason they can find to blame Obama for some wrong doing, but I don't really think there will be much in the way of serious discussion of that story you posted...

Just another load of BS to make the wingnuts look even more stupid. Which isn't too hard.

395 bratwurst  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:46:02pm

BTW: Here is some Enquirer coverage of the former president. Did the right wing blogosphere go crazy over gems like this?

[Link: www.nationalenquirer.com...]

396 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:46:34pm

re: #394 Gus 802

Just another load of BS to make the wingnuts look even more stupid. Which isn't too hard.

I disagree, the Wingnuts are starting to look so stupid on average that its going to take some real hard work on their part to lower bring that intelligence bar any lower....

397 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:46:35pm

re: #393 Cato the Elder

I have no idea what the context of this was, but it made me laugh.

398 WindHorse  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:48:27pm

re: #393 Cato the Elder

I think your comment about teaching our kids that we do what ever we can get away are the words of a fool.

I have raised two kids and that ain't how it works.

399 Lidane  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:48:48pm

Because shit isn't crazy enough in Arizona right now:

Sources say Arpaio will announce run for governor Monday

PHOENIX – Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio is expected to announce Monday if he'll run for Arizona governor.

Several sources confirm to the ABC15 Investigators that Arpaio has already made a decision, and will likely run for the office.

In a news conference after this story was first published, the Sheriff said he was still weighing his options, but also that he would in fact have an announcement on Monday.

However, when asked about a state sales tax during the news conference, the Sheriff said, "When I'm the governor, I'll study the issue." He then clarified, "If become the governor..so I become the governor...I'll study it."

Republican Party Chairman Randy Pullen said he has spoken with the Sheriff on several occasions about running for governor.

As recently as last week, Pullen said the Sheriff told him by phone that "he was just letting me know he was seriously considering it and he was meeting with his advisors and supporters to make a final decision, and that decision would be in very early May."

Several high ranking sources within the Sheriff's Department tell the ABC15 Investigators that all the necessary paperwork "has been filled out and is ready to file."

400 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:49:32pm

re: #396 jamesfirecat

I disagree, the Wingnuts are starting to look so stupid on average that its going to take some real hard work on their part to lower bring that intelligence bar any lower...

Why they're so dumb, no one could be even dumber. Those dummies.

401 Racer X  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:50:43pm

I gotta go a see a man about a horse.

402 WindHorse  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:50:52pm

re: #399 Lidane

what the fuck do you know?

403 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:50:56pm

re: #398 WindHorse

I think your comment about teaching our kids that we do what ever we can get away are the words of a fool.

I have raised two kids and that ain't how it works.

Whoop-de-do!

404 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:51:09pm

Back on topic...

Marijuana

MP3 Audio
405 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:51:32pm

re: #395 bratwurst

BTW: Here is some Enquirer coverage of the former president. Did the right wing blogosphere go crazy over gems like this?

[Link: www.nationalenquirer.com...]

They really should just post a story saying "everyone cheating with everyone" and then let the law of probability do their work for them and pounce on any stories they eventually "get right"

406 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:51:37pm

re: #401 Racer X

I gotta go a see a man about a horse.

Dear Sir,
Your horse has diabetes.

Bad joke, Dad would always tell.

407 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:52:36pm

re: #404 Bagua

Back on topic...

Marijuana

Thank you for that. I got no pot, but now I can get Windy Horse's random farts out the door.

408 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:52:37pm

re: #402 WindHorse

what the fuck do you know?

She/He knows Joe? :p

/ask a silly question...

409 WindHorse  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:52:49pm

re: #403 Cato the Elder

Your parents didn't raise you that way.... you're too good of a guy... so why do you say this shit?

410 Lidane  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:53:19pm

re: #400 Bagua

Why they're so dumb, no one could be even dumber. Those dummies.

Youtube Video

Heh.

411 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:53:37pm

re: #398 WindHorse

I think your comment about teaching our kids that we do what ever we can get away are the words of a fool.

I have raised two kids and that ain't how it works.

My father was (nay, still is) a brainiac elitist lawyer, and basically what he taught me was to be virtuous, wok hard, follow what makes you happy, be intellectually curious and do good things, but that people do in fact often do whatever they can get away with, and that one should take this into account when dealing with humans. :D

Worked for me so far!

412 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:53:53pm

re: #402 WindHorse

Youtube Video
413 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:54:18pm

re: #402 WindHorse

what the fuck do you know?

What the hell was that about?

414 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:54:58pm

I will submit apropos of nothing that the best band from Israel is Infected Mushroom

discuss

415 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:55:25pm

re: #413 SanFranciscoZionist

What the hell was that about?

What flipping planet are you from?

SFV, hope all is well with you?

416 swamprat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:55:26pm

Obama gives birth to Batboy... who then eats his own foot!

Update; BatBoy eats other foot!

/film at eleven!

417 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:55:46pm

re: #413 SanFranciscoZionist

What the hell was that about?

It doesn't matter.

WHAT MATTERS IS THIS:

KILLING JOKE IS COMING TO MY TOWN and THEY WILL ROCK

418 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:55:54pm

re: #409 WindHorse

Your parents didn't raise you that way... you're too good of a guy... so why do you say this shit?

To dignify, for once, your windy-ass horseshit with a reply:

It's not just about what your parents teach your ass.

It's more about what society teaches you.

Now go piss on a fence.

419 WindHorse  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:56:44pm

re: #411 WindUpBird

I don't care what people will or will not do. I taught my sons to do the right thing.

And that is to respect people and respect themselves.... and to own up to their mistakes and limitations....

-not to try and get away with whatever they can.

420 Gus  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:56:52pm

re: #395 bratwurst

BTW: Here is some Enquirer coverage of the former president. Did the right wing blogosphere go crazy over gems like this?

[Link: www.nationalenquirer.com...]

That's old of course and in fact this Vera Baker tripe is old too. It's alleged to have occurred in 2004. They brought this Baker garbage up in 2008. Now they're going to look for a 6 year old security tape? You know how much money that would be worth if it was found and even true? Millions. Which means they would cash-in now. Instead, these stupid gossip rags are going to cash in on the gullible masses.

421 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:56:58pm

re: #418 Cato the Elder

To dignify, for once, your windy-ass horseshit with a reply:

It's not just about what your parents teach your ass.

It's more about what society teaches you.

Now go piss on a fence.

The trick is, don't let society (aka the bastards) force you down avenues you don't wish to travel (aka grind you down)

422 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:57:15pm

re: #414 WindUpBird

I will submit apropos of nothing that the best band from Israel is Infected Mushroom

discuss

While I must plainly have mad respect for a group that titled an album "Legend of the Black Shawarma", I honestly am not that into the music.

423 WindHorse  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:57:16pm

re: #418 Cato the Elder

Mandy?

424 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:57:38pm

re: #413 SanFranciscoZionist

What the hell was that about?

Methinks the arizonauts are getting a little cross about all this constant negative attention we are giving them.

425 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:57:50pm

re: #415 Floral Giraffe

What flipping planet are you from?

SFV, hope all is well with you?

If I'm SFV, pretty well. Sample lesson Monday.

426 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:58:28pm

re: #419 WindHorse

I don't care what people will or will not do. I taught my sons to do the right thing.

And that is to respect people and respect themselves... and to own up to their mistakes and limitations...

-not to try and get away with whatever they can.

I think you and Cato are not really connecting, I think he's talking about the machinery of society, not what a good parent would say!

(owning up to your limitations FTW, that's actually gotten me out of a lot of jams, people sometimes don't expect honesty in that regard)

427 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:59:06pm

re: #425 SanFranciscoZionist

Be well, you will find a good job.
Good night, all!

428 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:59:16pm

re: #422 SanFranciscoZionist

While I must plainly have mad respect for a group that titled an album "Legend of the Black Shawarma", I honestly am not that into the music.

I'm only into some of it, because it's good to dance to, most of the music I am into is way more abrasive and insane :D

429 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:59:24pm

re: #424 ausador

Methinks the arizonauts are getting a little cross about all this constant negative attention we are giving them.

I can understand that, although, being as I am from Baghdad By The Bay, a small part of me wants to mutter 'well, tough'.

430 Gus  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:59:31pm

re: #427 Floral Giraffe

Be well, you will find a good job.
Good night, all!

Have a good one FG.

431 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:59:41pm

re: #424 ausador

Methinks the arizonauts are getting a little cross about all this constant negative attention we are giving them.

ARIZONAUTS!!!111

I am totally stealing that

432 tnguitarist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:59:50pm

Does anyone know much about the "National Write Your Congressman" group? I was approached by one of their workers at my local watering hole this evening. He wanted to ask some "poll" questions, so I played along. He was just spouting talking points and could barely answer any of my questions. He didn't even know their website!

433 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 10:59:54pm

re: #414 WindUpBird

I will submit apropos of nothing that the best band from Israel is Infected Mushroom

discuss

Becoming Insane?

Youtube Video
434 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:00:28pm

re: #428 WindUpBird

I'm only into some of it, because it's good to dance to, most of the music I am into is way more abrasive and insane :D

I shall counterpropose that the Hip-Hop Hoodios are the best Jewish Latino rap group currently in existence.

435 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:01:33pm

re: #433 Bagua

It's good stuff! :D

436 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:01:34pm

re: #432 tnguitarist

Does anyone know much about the "National Write Your Congressman" group? I was approached by one of their workers at my local watering hole this evening. He wanted to ask some "poll" questions, so I played along. He was just spouting talking points and could barely answer any of my questions. He didn't even know their website!

I have never heard of them. Do people really need an organization to help them write their Congressperson? I just drop Garamendi a line whenever I feel like it...after all, he is the Proven Democrat.

437 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:01:41pm

re: #423 WindHorse

Mandy?

What the mofo hell are you smoking tonight?

438 WindHorse  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:02:46pm

Cato, this is for you....

Image: Waaambulance.jpg

439 Lidane  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:03:08pm

re: #402 WindHorse

what the fuck do you know?

Youtube Video
440 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:03:11pm

re: #434 SanFranciscoZionist

I shall counterpropose that the Hip-Hop Hoodios are the best Jewish Latino rap group currently in existence.

Looking them up o_o

When i think of Jewish rap, I of course think of the Beasties, and Matisyahu. :D

441 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:03:37pm

re: #426 WindUpBird

I think you and Cato are not really connecting, I think he's talking about the machinery of society, not what a good parent would say!

(owning up to your limitations FTW, that's actually gotten me out of a lot of jams, people sometimes don't expect honesty in that regard)

I do not wish to connect with WH. My only - and I repeat, only - interaction with him up till now has been to see him give me predictable downdings.

Not that I care about downdings, but as far as I can tell he's a nonentity on this or any other blog.

442 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:03:40pm

re: #437 Cato the Elder

What the mofo hell are you smoking tonight?

Yea, puff, puff pass already.

Gentlemen, there is to be no fighting in the war room!

443 Gus  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:04:10pm

OK Who spiked the punch bowl?

444 tnguitarist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:04:21pm

re: #418 Cato the Elder

To dignify, for once, your windy-ass horseshit with a reply:

It's not just about what your parents teach your ass.

It's more about what society teaches you.

Now go piss on a fence.

How many kids do you have? Just curious.

445 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:04:27pm

re: #438 WindHorse

Cato, this is for you...

Image: Waaambulance.jpg

KKKLever little turd!

446 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:05:03pm

re: #435 WindUpBird

It's good stuff! :D

This is quality.

Mush Mushi

Youtube Video

-Infected Mushroom
447 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:05:18pm

re: #434 SanFranciscoZionist

These guys are good, and they have song titles I'm afraid to repeat here :D

448 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:05:31pm

re: #444 tnguitarist

How many kids do you have? Just curious.

What's your sperm count?

Just curious.

449 tnguitarist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:05:39pm

re: #436 SanFranciscoZionist

I have never heard of them. Do people really need an organization to help them write their Congressperson? I just drop Garamendi a line whenever I feel like it...after all, he is the Proven Democrat.

He wasn't really polling me. That's what's funny. He was telling me how I should feel about the HCR bill and immigration.

450 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:06:18pm

re: #443 Gus 802

OK Who spiked the punch bowl?

I blame him

451 tnguitarist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:07:55pm

re: #448 Cato the Elder

What's your sperm count?

Just curious.

My wife is pregnant, so it's good to go.

I have an uncle that is always telling everyone how to raise their kids, even though he has nary a child. Just wondering if you are speaking from experience.

452 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:09:00pm

re: #440 WindUpBird

Looking them up o_o

When i think of Jewish rap, I of course think of the Beasties, and Matisyahu. :D

I like Matisyahu. Not the last album so much. But in general.

My students used to think I was incredibly cool for listening to Matisyahu, which I thought was incredibly funny.

453 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:09:18pm

We interrupt this blog for the totally sweet digital art of Senecal

454 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:12:14pm

re: #447 WindUpBird

These guys are good, and they have song titles I'm afraid to repeat here :D

What, you think LGF can't handle a song called 1492? Ocho Kandelikas?

Ohhh. The other song titles.

They're hilarious, and very good.

455 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:12:27pm

re: #452 SanFranciscoZionist

I like Matisyahu. Not the last album so much. But in general.

My students used to think I was incredibly cool for listening to Matisyahu, which I thought was incredibly funny.

I remember the first time I found out a teacher was into the same music I was, it was a jr. high school art teacher, he did a unit on surrealism and album covers, and he busted out Rush's Hemispheres. I raised my hand and quoted Cygnus X-1 Part 2, and he said "see me after class". And then we just geeked out about Rush and Blue Oyster Cult and he made me late for my next period for the whole semester :D

it makes sense, though! Kids think of teachers like adult authority figures, like their parents. Then they meet the teacher that's into Metallica (this is in 1989) and they go WHAT HOLY WOW

456 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:12:44pm

re: #449 tnguitarist

He wasn't really polling me. That's what's funny. He was telling me how I should feel about the HCR bill and immigration.

So, share. How should we feel about it?

457 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:13:21pm

re: #454 SanFranciscoZionist

What, you think LGF can't handle a song called 1492? Ocho Kandelikas?

Ohhh. The other song titles.

They're hilarious, and very good.

(deleted) on the Mic was what I was alluding to :D

458 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:15:53pm

Some modern, mystical and marvelous Israeli music.

- אצלנו בכפר טודרא

Youtube Video

הברירה הטבעית -
459 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:17:06pm

*Mind you when I say 'modern' I'm going back 30 years or so.

460 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:19:09pm

re: #458 Bagua

cool o_o

I counter with Orphaned Land, less haunting and more ZANY PROG METAL

Youtube Video
461 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:20:18pm

re: #455 WindUpBird

I remember the first time I found out a teacher was into the same music I was, it was a jr. high school art teacher, he did a unit on surrealism and album covers, and he busted out Rush's Hemispheres. I raised my hand and quoted Cygnus X-1 Part 2, and he said "see me after class". And then we just geeked out about Rush and Blue Oyster Cult and he made me late for my next period for the whole semester :D

it makes sense, though! Kids think of teachers like adult authority figures, like their parents. Then they meet the teacher that's into Metallica (this is in 1989) and they go WHAT HOLY WOW

I just thought it was super funny, because Matisyahu, for me, is something I share with Chasidic housewives I talk to online. And suddenly I have this random little tough-guy Filipino kid all wide-eyed, going "You listen to Matisyahu? Really? I LOVE "King Without A Crown".

My other great student music moment was when a kid suddenly asks, "Mrs. SFZ, do you know about a band called Led Zeppelin?"

I said, "Yes, hon. I've heard of them."

She said, with all that fifteen-year-old intensity, "They're AMAZING."

And I'm thinking, yes, they are, and they're also old enough to be your grandparents.

The music teacher at the school I work at has a little band that performs at school functions. He teaches them old rock pieces. My parents get an enormous kick out of my reports on this. The kids get up on stage and do "City of Angels", "Hotel California", "Hit the Road, Jack"...it's utterly charming.

462 Kragar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:20:19pm

In comic news, first look at Thor from the new movie

463 swamprat  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:20:45pm

Unfortunately "tradewind" is correct.
This tabloid accusation will be a topic of discussion.

People Magazine.
Dancing with the Stars.
TMZ (paparazzi video show)

Small things to entertain small minds.

/Sorry if I stepped on toes

464 tnguitarist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:21:19pm

re: #456 SanFranciscoZionist

So, share. How should we feel about it?

I was informed that the costs of health care will bankrupt this country, "didn't I think so?". He actually asked a few questions on immigration, but didn't write a single thing down. He wrote down some of the answers from the guy next to me, but they were all things he wanted to hear. Seemed like selective polling to me.

465 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:21:31pm

re: #457 WindUpBird

(deleted) on the Mic was what I was alluding to :D

Yeah...

466 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:22:21pm

re: #461 SanFranciscoZionist

Zeppelin and Floyd! They stand the test of time!

467 Velvet Elvis  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:24:03pm

Democrats Call For National ID Card with Biometric Monitoring

Ummmm. I have a problem with this.

Democratic leaders have proposed requiring every worker in the nation to carry a national identification card with biometric information, such as a fingerprint, within the next six years, according to a draft of the measure.

The proposal is one of the biggest differences between the newest immigration reform proposal and legislation crafted by late Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.).

The national ID program would be titled the Believe System, an acronym for Biometric Enrollment, Locally stored Information and Electronic Verification of Employment.

It would require all workers across the nation to carry a card with a digital encryption key that would have to match work authorization databases.

“The cardholder’s identity will be verified by matching the biometric identifier stored within the microprocessing chip on the card to the identifier provided by the cardholder that shall be read by the scanner used by the employer,” states the Democratic legislative proposal.

468 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:24:23pm

re: #466 WindUpBird

Zeppelin and Floyd! They stand the test of time!

Oh, and then there was the kid who called me over to ask, really solemnly, if I thought Tupac Shakur was really dead.

469 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:24:33pm

It's Friday night. Not too late where I am, if you don't call 2:22 A.M. "late".

Enjoy your drinks (or the AA version), everyone.

Back to watching Dexter kill another deserving victim.

Yeah, I'm that evil.

470 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:25:06pm

re: #467 Conservative Moonbat

yeah, the biometric thing is really a dumbfuck move by Democrats. :P

471 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:25:25pm

re: #469 Cato the Elder

It's Friday night. Not too late where I am, if you don't call 2:22 A.M. "late".

Enjoy your drinks (or the AA version), everyone.

Back to watching Dexter kill another deserving victim.

Yeah, I'm that evil.

Dexter is delightful.

472 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:25:48pm

re: #469 Cato the Elder

It's Friday night. Not too late where I am, if you don't call 2:22 A.M. "late".

Enjoy your drinks (or the AA version), everyone.

Back to watching Dexter kill another deserving victim.

Yeah, I'm that evil.

I need to watch that show!


(currently drinking New Belgium Trippel, soon to be busting out the Redhook limited barley wine)

473 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:26:29pm

re: #468 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, and then there was the kid who called me over to ask, really solemnly, if I thought Tupac Shakur was really dead.


PAUL IS DEAD

KURT COBAIN WAS MURDERED

2PAC LIVES

474 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:26:35pm

re: #472 WindUpBird

I need to watch that show!

(currently drinking New Belgium Trippel, soon to be busting out the Redhook limited barley wine)

You totally do need to watch that show. HAVE you watched that show?

475 Kragar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:27:34pm

re: #473 WindUpBird

PAUL IS DEAD

KURT COBAIN WAS MURDERED

2PAC LIVES

Elvis spends his spare time swapping stories with black JFK.

476 Velvet Elvis  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:27:50pm

re: #472 WindUpBird

I need to watch that show!

(currently drinking New Belgium Trippel, soon to be busting out the Redhook limited barley wine)

I want to try the Redhook BW but I don't think you can get it here. I've got two sixes of SN Bigfoot barley wine aging in the closet and it's hard not to touch them.

477 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:28:10pm

re: #460 WindUpBird

Wow, another great find, thanks.

478 tnguitarist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:28:52pm

re: #469 Cato the Elder

It's Friday night. Not too late where I am, if you don't call 2:22 A.M. "late".

Enjoy your drinks (or the AA version), everyone.

Back to watching Dexter kill another deserving victim.

Yeah, I'm that evil.

You're going to give me a downding then run? What, was the discussion not going your way? I was just curious, since you were offering analysis on raising children, if you had any children.

479 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:29:11pm

re: #474 SanFranciscoZionist

You totally do need to watch that show. HAVE you watched that show?

I haven't. I have had my head down making art and computer game assets like my life depended on it, and the only TV I have watched recently is my Mighty Boosh box set, and episodes of Top Gear. I'm looking forward to a bit of a break in the freelance when I have a nice bank account buffer in which case I will smoke a lot of (redacted) and watch a lot of TV and play a lot of video games and drink a lot of beer :D

480 tnguitarist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:29:45pm

re: #475 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Elvis spends his spare time swapping stories with black JFK.

Upding for the Bubba Ho-tep.

481 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:29:50pm

re: #476 Conservative Moonbat

I want to try the Redhook BW but I don't think you can get it here. I've got two sixes of SN Bigfoot barley wine aging in the closet and it's hard not to touch them.

Ooh, you're stronger than me, I can never cellar anything. I buy it, eyeball it for a few days, and then drink it.

482 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:30:02pm

re: #480 tnguitarist

Upding for the Bubba Ho-tep.

THEY DYED ME THIS COLOR

483 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:30:31pm

re: #471 SanFranciscoZionist

Dexter is delightful.

Yea, what's not to love.

484 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:31:30pm

re: #475 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Elvis spends his spare time swapping stories with black JFK.

"It's Lyndon Johnson! He's come for me!"

"Uh, Jack, I think President Johnson is dead."

"That wouldn't stop Lyndon!!"

485 tnguitarist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:31:59pm

re: #483 Bagua

Yea, what's not to love.

I've thought about getting Dexter on Netflix, but I'm catching up on Rescue Me right now. Is it highly recommended?

486 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:33:04pm

re: #483 Bagua

Yea, what's not to love.

Aside from the fact that he's a sociopath who murders people fortnightly? Nothing at all! A charming man who always remembers to bring home milk for the kids.

487 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:33:08pm

re: #477 Bagua

Wow, another great find, thanks.

They're sort of the Israeli answer to Lacuna Coil. They used to be a bit more of an extreme metal band with harsh vocals, they've sorta come into their own as just a damn cool accessible hard rock/metal band with all kinds of great stuff in the mix. Also, any album that Steven Wilson from porcupine tree has a hand in, that's a good hint of the awesome :D

488 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:33:41pm

re: #485 tnguitarist

I've thought about getting Dexter on Netflix, but I'm catching up on Rescue Me right now. Is it highly recommended?

Everyone I have talked to who's seen it has said it's awesome!

489 Obdicut  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:34:06pm

re: #71 Cato the Elder

Wow, that was dumb.

490 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:34:07pm

re: #486 SanFranciscoZionist

Aside from the fact that he's a sociopath who murders people fortnightly? Nothing at all! A charming man who always remembers to bring home milk for the kids.

I remember when he was the neurotic queer in Six Feet Under!

491 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:34:37pm

re: #485 tnguitarist

I've thought about getting Dexter on Netflix, but I'm catching up on Rescue Me right now. Is it highly recommended?

If you like Rescue Me, you can probably cope with Dexter. The plotting is great, the acting is great, and the Miami setting works beautifully for the show.

The creepy part is how completely the show suckers you into rooting for a serial killer. Dexter is a brilliant narrator.

492 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:34:46pm

re: #485 tnguitarist

I've thought about getting Dexter on Netflix, but I'm catching up on Rescue Me right now. Is it highly recommended?

I've only seen a few episodes, all good stuff. A serial killer working for the police. Interesting premise.

493 Kragar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:35:33pm

Flipping thru Netflix now for something to watch in the background as I paint.

494 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:36:50pm

This is how we roll in my hometown

Youtube Video

at 0:27 is one of the most massive riffs ever

495 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:36:53pm

re: #490 WindUpBird

I remember when he was the neurotic queer in Six Feet Under!

I'm catching up on Six Feet Under now, and it is difficult to remember that the polite, buttoned-down character he plays in that really is polite and buttoned-down.

Not that the character doesn't have his moments. "And David, if you have a special friend you'd like to invite to dinner, we'd all love to meet him."

"Why is my friend special?"

496 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:37:04pm

re: #486 SanFranciscoZionist

Aside from the fact that he's a sociopath who murders people fortnightly? Nothing at all! A charming man who always remembers to bring home milk for the kids.

Yes, overlooking some little character flaws.

497 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:37:47pm

re: #491 SanFranciscoZionist

If you like Rescue Me, you can probably cope with Dexter. The plotting is great, the acting is great, and the Miami setting works beautifully for the show.

The creepy part is how completely the show suckers you into rooting for a serial killer. Dexter is a brilliant narrator.

My friends and I grew up rooting for Freddy Krueger, so I guess it was inevitable :D

498 Obdicut  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:38:15pm

re: #493 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Dr. Who. All things great and small. Stargate. The IT Crowd. Eddie Izzard's standup.

499 What's the matter with Democrats?  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:38:37pm

yikes. haven't logged on in over a year. what happened, charles?

500 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:38:54pm

re: #478 tnguitarist

You're going to give me a downding then run? What, was the discussion not going your way? I was just curious, since you were offering analysis on raising children, if you had any children.

Yo, bitch?

Considering that I have stalkers tracking me and my dog, I'm certainly not going to tell you or any other blogger here about my progeny.

Grow the fuck up.

501 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:39:31pm

re: #493 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Flipping thru Netflix now for something to watch in the background as I paint.


What are you painting o_o

(I always love doing the commentary tracks to movies I'm into, when I do art, it's like a radio show about a thing I know intimately)

502 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:39:48pm

re: #489 Obdicut

Wow, that was dumb.

You might very well think so.

503 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:40:14pm

re: #499 What's the matter with Democrats?

yikes. haven't logged on in over a year. what happened, charles?

What do you mean? Please elaborate, sir! :D

504 Obdicut  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:40:36pm

re: #502 Cato the Elder

Well, I do. Your answer had very little to do with what I was talking about; it definitely formed the next part of what you wanted to talk about.

It's pretty boring trying to talk to you when you've decided what my part of the conversation is, and attempt to cram anything I say into that box.

505 Kragar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:40:51pm

re: #498 Obdicut

Dr. Who. All things great and small. Stargate. The IT Crowd. Eddie Izzard's standup.

All things I would actually watch and not get any painting done. Its a fine line.

506 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:41:00pm

off!

to drink more!

507 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:41:02pm

re: #499 What's the matter with Democrats?

yikes. haven't logged on in over a year. what happened, charles?

Just a nutty Saturday night, try not to panic.

508 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:41:21pm

re: #505 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

All things I would actually watch and not get any painting done. Its a fine line.

Commentary tracks! I'm tellin ya!

509 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:41:32pm

re: #503 WindUpBird

What do you mean? Please elaborate, sir! :D

No need.

The troll-bone-grinding mills are already rolling.

510 Kragar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:41:41pm

re: #501 WindUpBird

What are you painting o_o

(I always love doing the commentary tracks to movies I'm into, when I do art, it's like a radio show about a thing I know intimately)

Alternating between several Squads of Space Wolves and some Killa Kanz

511 Obdicut  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:41:51pm

re: #505 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Heh. Eddie Izzard you can just listen to, at any rate. Oh, and Mythbusters Season 5 just came out, as well.

Also, the documentaries about Monty Python, as well as Monty Python. It's a rich buffet.

512 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:42:22pm

re: #504 Obdicut

Well, I do. Your answer had very little to do with what I was talking about; it definitely formed the next part of what you wanted to talk about.

It's pretty boring trying to talk to you when you've decided what my part of the conversation is, and attempt to cram anything I say into that box.

You know what? I don't care.

513 What's the matter with Democrats?  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:43:32pm

re: #503 WindUpBird

I had no idea this site had become a haven for democrats. A little shocked. And I'm not a sir.

514 Kragar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:43:37pm

And so I settle on "The Omega Man" with Charlton Heston.

515 Kragar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:44:06pm

DEMOCRATS? Where?

516 What's the matter with Democrats?  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:46:02pm

re: #509 Cato the Elder

It was only last year that you my friend were the troll. This is weird.

517 WindHorse  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:46:21pm

"The jawbone of an ass is just as dangerous a weapon today as in Sampson's time."
--- Richard Nixon

518 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:46:42pm

ילדים זה שמחה

Youtube Video

הברירה הטבעית
519 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:47:04pm

re: #516 What's the matter with Democrats?

It was only last year that you my friend were the troll. This is weird.

Do tell.

520 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:47:17pm

re: #516 What's the matter with Democrats?

It was only last year that you my friend were the troll. This is weird.

News flash, Cato hasn't changed.

521 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:48:20pm

re: #499 What's the matter with Democrats?

yikes. haven't logged on in over a year. what happened, charles?

Oh, just go back to sleep!

522 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:50:19pm

re: #515 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

DEMOCRATS? Where?

Over here! Over here!!

523 tnguitarist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:51:30pm

re: #500 Cato the Elder

Yo, bitch?

Considering that I have stalkers tracking me and my dog, I'm certainly not going to tell you or any other blogger here about my progeny.

Grow the fuck up.

You talked down to me, yet I still won't downding you.

You are correct. If you tell me how many kids you have, I will be able to track you down. I'm that good. In other words, no, you don't have kids?

Don't you defeat your own purpose when you tell someone to grow the fuck up?

524 Kragar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:51:56pm

re: #522 SanFranciscoZionist

Over here! Over here!!

/Points and howls like Donald Sutherland from Invasion of the Body Snatchers

525 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:52:29pm

re: #524 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

/Points and howls like Donald Sutherland from Invasion of the Body Snatchers

And on that note, this Democrat is going to bed.

526 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:53:01pm

re: #523 tnguitarist

You talked down to me, yet I still won't downding you.

You are correct. If you tell me how many kids you have, I will be able to track you down. I'm that good. In other words, no, you don't have kids?

Don't you defeat your own purpose when you tell someone to grow the fuck up?

.

527 Bagua  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:54:15pm

re: #522 SanFranciscoZionist

Over here! Over here!!

One more for my favourite Democrat.

Eli, Eli אלי אלי

Youtube Video

- The Natural Gathering הברירה הטבעית
528 Velvet Elvis  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:54:31pm

re: #493 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Flipping thru Netflix now for something to watch in the background as I paint.

You can stream Farscape on Netflix

529 Kragar  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:55:17pm

re: #528 Conservative Moonbat

You can stream Farscape on Netflix

Again, I would end up watching it more than I would be painting

530 tnguitarist  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:56:08pm

re: #526 Cato the Elder

.

And you told me to grow up?

531 WindHorse  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:58:44pm

re: #530 tnguitarist

Amateurs dude.... amateurs.

532 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 30, 2010 11:59:37pm

re: #530 tnguitarist

And you told me to grow up?

You know what, shitbag? You ask me about my personal life on this blog, I'm going to target you as a shitbag.

533 Obdicut  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:00:55am

re: #532 Cato the Elder

You talk about your personal life all the time and it was a perfectly reasonable question. So is not wanting to answer it.

534 tnguitarist  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:04:08am

re: #532 Cato the Elder

You know what, shitbag? You ask me about my personal life on this blog, I'm going to target you as a shitbag.

Nice.

You were lecturing someone about how to raise their and I was wondering what your area of expertise was.(How many kids you have)

Oh noz! How will I sleep this week knowing that I've been called a shitbag on the intertubes?

535 Lidane  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:05:39am

re: #506 WindUpBird

off!

to drink more!

Wish I could have a drink or two. Unfortunately, I'm getting used to some new medications, so alcohol is out for me right now. :(

536 Cato the Elder  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:05:46am

re: #533 Obdicut

You talk about your personal life all the time and it was a perfectly reasonable question. So is not wanting to answer it.

But the Tennessee bullshit guitarist has asked me three times, and won't stop.

Let him ask the Tennessee Stud.

537 Cato the Elder  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:06:12am

re: #534 tnguitarist

Nice.

You were lecturing someone about how to raise their and I was wondering what your area of expertise was.(How many kids you have)

Oh noz! How will I sleep this week knowing that I've been called a shitbag on the intertubes?

GAZE

538 WindHorse  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:07:10am

re: #534 tnguitarist

Hey Tennessee.... yawl have a great weekend... catch youze later mahng....

539 Cato the Elder  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:12:45am

re: #516 What's the matter with Democrats?

It was only last year that you my friend were the troll. This is weird.

Class of 2005 coming up.

Check yourself, boy. I've been here longer than you.

540 Kragar  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:17:03am

Gosh durn young hooligans wouldn't know a globular cluster thread if it bit em on the keister

541 tnguitarist  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:18:20am

re: #537 Cato the Elder

GAZE

I get it. I do. You like to be deferred to as the elder statesman in these parts. How dare i question your reasoning, right? You have a pattern in your arguments. You ride the High Horse Of Brilliance until you are painted into a corner with a argument you have trouble with. Then you lash out. Petty if you ask me, but I still won't get down in the ditch with you.

You were telling someone how to raise their children, so I wondered if you were speaking from a position of knowledge. You could have simply said, "I don't wish to give out that information online", but you made a snide comment instead. I'm sure you will have one in response to this.

I could call names, too. That's easy.

542 Cato the Elder  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:20:51am

re: #541 tnguitarist

.

543 tnguitarist  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:25:25am

re: #542 Cato the Elder

Your silence speaks volumes.

544 KenJen  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:26:54am

re: #540 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

They are putting on quite a stellar performance
Puns anyone?

545 ozbloke  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:27:26am

On a lighter note.

'Dead' patient checks himself out of hospital.

546 Kragar  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:29:11am

re: #544 KenJen

They are putting on quite a stellar performance
Puns anyone?

Its like watching a pole dancer wearing a moomoo. I mean I guess its supposed to produce a reaction, but it just doesn't.

547 Cato the Elder  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:30:07am

re: #543 tnguitarist

Your silence speaks volumes.

Your ass farts the Ode to Joy.

Do you have a point?

548 Kragar  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:32:55am

Well now, apparently the college student next door has a new girlfriend.

549 tnguitarist  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:34:19am

re: #547 Cato the Elder

Your ass farts the Ode to Joy.

Do you have a point?

I've already made it.

You seem like a smart guy (or gal), but I swear a preteen boy hijacks your computer from time to time and types in random insults.

550 Cato the Elder  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:35:12am

re: #548 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Well now, apparently the college student next door has a new girlfriend.

Oh! Yes! That's the way! Harder! Yeah! Suck that tit! Baby!

Like that?

551 Kragar  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:38:34am

re: #550 Cato the Elder

Oh! Yes! That's the way! Harder! Yeah! Suck that tit! Baby!

Like that?

No, she is apparently quite religious.

She's been saying "Oh God! Oh God!" quite a bit for the last 10 minutes.

552 Lidane  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:44:05am

re: #551 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

No, she is apparently quite religious.

She's been saying "Oh God! Oh God!" quite a bit for the last 10 minutes.

One of my housemates in college had a girlfriend that was very, very religious. Several times a night, at that.

After a month of sleepless nights due to their tent revivals, I finally just started bringing whoever I was dating back home, just to offer an alternate point of view. Heh.

553 Cato the Elder  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:44:43am

re: #549 tnguitarist

I've already made it.

You seem like a smart guy (or gal), but I swear a preteen boy hijacks your computer from time to time and types in random insults.

You have made no point whatsoever.

Keep thinking you have, though. I'm sure it'll help with your self-esteem problem.

554 Mocking Jay  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:46:06am

*sits back and munches on popcorn*

555 Kragar  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:48:12am

re: #552 Lidane

One of my housemates in college had a girlfriend that was very, very religious. Several times a night, at that.

After a month of sleepless nights due to their tent revivals, I finally just started bringing whoever I was dating back home, just to offer an alternate point of view. Heh.

Perhaps a group discussion of religious doctrines would have been in order.

556 Kragar  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:49:02am

re: #554 JasonA

*sits back and munches on popcorn*

That real butter?

557 Cato the Elder  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:51:31am

So...here comes May Day, originally a time for virgins (does anyone remember virgins?) to dance around the Maypole (does anyone remember those?), later perverted into commie propaganda (does anyone remember that shit?) and now utterly meaningless. Sad.

Hello, May.

And y'all just shut the fuck up and listen to this.

Youtube Video
558 Kragar  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:51:53am

Only in the 70s could you get away with a villian who is a black albino wearing a shiny metallic black robe carrying a spear.

559 Lidane  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:52:33am

re: #555 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Perhaps a group discussion of religious doctrines would have been in order.

It wouldn't have worked. She would have drowned the rest of us out with all the screaming and speaking in tongues, and I would've lost my Zen. ;)

560 tnguitarist  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:55:06am

re: #553 Cato the Elder

I do have self-esteem problems. That's why I call people names on the internet and downding every one of their posts. Oh wait, that's you.

I'll tell you my point. You just want to tell people how to raise their kids, even though you probably have none. Everyone is an expert because they "read a book on it" or "observed" child-rearing. I just have no patience for people that tell other folks how to raise children when they've never lived through the experience.

561 tnguitarist  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:57:34am

I'm going to watch the Slammin' Salmon. Good night.

562 Cato the Elder  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:59:07am

re: #560 tnguitarist

I do have self-esteem problems. That's why I call people names on the internet and downding every one of their posts. Oh wait, that's you.

I'll tell you my point. You just want to tell people how to raise their kids, even though you probably have none. Everyone is an expert because they "read a book on it" or "observed" child-rearing. I just have no patience for people that tell other folks how to raise children when they've never lived through the experience.

Oh, go micturate upwards upon a hempen rope.

563 tnguitarist  Sat, May 1, 2010 1:00:51am

re: #562 Cato the Elder

Oh, go micturate upwards upon a hempen rope.

Oh, go open the basement door and tell your mom good night.

564 Cato the Elder  Sat, May 1, 2010 1:02:55am

re: #563 tnguitarist

Oh, go open the basement door and tell your mom good night.

You know what? I have relatives like you. I ignore them, and henceforth I shall do the same with you.

It doesn't hurt them.

565 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, May 1, 2010 2:44:47am

GUYS I WAS PLAYING WITH MY CATS ALSO GETTING DRUNK AND WATCHING RUPAUL'S DRAG RACE


I'M SO SORRY

566 KenJen  Sat, May 1, 2010 3:15:16am

re: #563 tnguitarist

re: #564 Cato the Elder

You two still at it? Go to bed the both of you.

567 KenJen  Sat, May 1, 2010 3:18:08am

Oh my! It's pouring down rain here in KY. Not looking good for the Derby.

568 RogueOne  Sat, May 1, 2010 4:54:08am

Exciting morning........

569 Spare O'Lake  Sat, May 1, 2010 4:54:31am

Good Morning LGF.

570 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 4:59:51am

re: #567 KenJen

Oh my! It's pouring down rain here in KY. Not looking good for the Derby.

Hi You!
It stopped raining awhile ago here..But I think more is coming..
Miss you young lady..What have you been up to?

571 boogberg  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:14:30am

Mornin', folks. Anyone pick up any Goldman stock yesterday? It got beat down pretty hard.

572 Spare O'Lake  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:14:56am

"Nothing to do with Islam" Alert:

US warns of 'imminent' terror attacks in India
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
01/05/2010 13:04

NEW DELHI — The U.S. Embassy says terrorists are planning "imminent attacks" in India's capital and warns Americans there to be vigilant.
Saturday's alert adding the word "imminent" appeared to be more urgent than an embassy advisory last month that cited increased indications of attacks in New Delhi.
The embassy noted that markets and other areas frequented by Westerners in New Delhi have been targeted in past attacks.
The alert said Americans in India should maintain "a high level of vigilance," remain aware of their surroundings and watch out for unattended packages.
Militants linked to Pakistan-based Islamic groups have been blamed for previous attacks in the Indian capital.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
573 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:18:54am

re: #572 Spare O'Lake

Morning Spare..
That report appears 4 months old.. 01/05/2010.

574 Jetpilot1101  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:20:10am

re: #571 boogberg

No and I think it's going lower. Should have picked up some DNDN about a year ago. I'd be on the road to retirement.

575 Spare O'Lake  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:22:17am

re: #573 HoosierHoops

Nah, it's today. They just mixed up the day and the month. Here's a CNN link for today as well.

[Link: news.blogs.cnn.com...]

576 boogberg  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:23:22am

re: #574 Jetpilot1101

Yeah, no kidding (DNDN)!

577 Jetpilot1101  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:23:34am

OT: I'm sure you've all see the story about the Obama cheating scandal from the National Enquirer.

Disclaimer: I don't believe this story but I will say that the NE was right about the John Edwards story. I still don't believe this story, the president is much smarter than this.

578 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:24:45am

re: #575 Spare O'Lake

Nah, it's today. They just mixed up the day and the month. Here's a CNN link for today as well.

[Link: news.blogs.cnn.com...]

Oh..Hope folks will remain safe there...

579 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:26:23am

Embiggen... heh

580 Jetpilot1101  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:26:54am

re: #576 boogberg

Yeah, no kidding (DNDN)!

In my opinion, the FDA approval is great for a new type of therapy to combat prostate cancer. With that being said, the $100K pricetag per patient doesn't sound like something insurance companies are going to want to pay for especially when the patient is in the late stages of the cancer and this only extends their life by 4 months. I'd pay anything to have my loved ones stick around for 4 more months but the pricetag on this one is steep.

581 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:27:27am

re: #579 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Embiggen... heh

That's what she said...
Ta Da!
Morning Veggie

582 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:27:36am

re: #580 Jetpilot1101

Only if I'm the loved one...

583 Spare O'Lake  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:28:07am

re: #577 Jetpilot1101

OT: I'm sure you've all see the story about the Obama cheating scandal from the National Enquirer.

Disclaimer: I don't believe this story but I will say that the NE was right about the John Edwards story. I still don't believe this story, the president is much smarter than this.

Even if it's true, I doubt this old story would have much current political fallout...unless he lies to cover it up. I expect he'll be smart enough to keep his yap shut.

584 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:30:11am

re: #583 Spare O'Lake

I don't buy the story. I hope that I am right. This is the one thing that I've truly imagined out of Obama. I would've expected W to cheat before O, and I didn't expect W to cheat at all.

585 Jetpilot1101  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:31:37am

re: #576 boogberg

Yeah, no kidding (DNDN)!

Want another one? Check out AERN which was up over 1000% in three days.

586 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:31:42am

re: #584 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I don't buy the story. I hope that I am right. This is the one thing that I've truly imagined out of Obama. I would've expected W to cheat before O, and I didn't expect W to cheat at all.

*points finger at Veggie*
I did not have sex with that woman!

587 Spare O'Lake  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:32:59am

re: #584 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I don't buy the story. I hope that I am right. This is the one thing that I've truly imagined out of Obama. I would've expected W to cheat before O, and I didn't expect W to cheat at all.

Yeah it seems completely contrary to his carefully managed image. And besides, Michelle would have cut his nuts off long ago...ooops, never mind.

588 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:33:22am

re: #584 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I don't buy the story. I hope that I am right. This is the one thing that I've truly imagined out of Obama, that he's not a cheater. I would've expected W to cheat before O, and I didn't expect W to cheat at all.

I left out a whole sentence fragment... hangovers suck.

589 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:34:16am

re: #586 HoosierHoops

*points finger at Veggie*
I did not have sex with that woman!

I'd like to see a politician say, "You're damn right I screwed her. Have you seen her?"

590 Jetpilot1101  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:34:51am

re: #583 Spare O'Lake

I'm sure he'll keep his yap shut. My only concern is any kind of video evidence that is out there. With that being said, I'll bet if he was engaged in some indiscretions, the SS has all the video evidence in a safe somewhere.

591 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:37:15am

Tough times are ahead for Kandahar in southern Afghanistan where thousands of U.S., NATO and Afghan forces are gearing up for the latest offensive of the war, a top U.S. general said in an unannounced visit there Friday.

Army Gen. David Petraeus, the head of the U.S. Central Command, toured areas in and around Kandahar to bolster support for the military operation aimed at routing the Taliban from their southern stronghold.

“There have been tough moments here in Kandahar in recent weeks — that is well known. And we know that there will be more tough moments in the weeks and months ahead,” said Petraeus whose command oversees Iraq and Afghanistan. “As we learned in Iraq, and as we have relearned in Afghanistan, when you fight to take away the momentum and the sanctuaries and the safe havens of the enemy, the enemy fights back. And that can be difficult and tough to fight.”

SNIP

592 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:41:02am

In the days leading up to the launch of a major US military offensive in the Afghan town of Marjah in February, Taliban commanders in the area received a surprise visit.

Many analysts consider Zakir to be one of the most important figures in the Taliban's southern chain of command. With northern roots, he is young, charismatic, and leads the Helmandi Brigade, considered to be the most daring of the Taliban troops. He may also be influential on negotiations with opposing forces.

It was from a charismatic man of medium build, intense eyes, and a knack for fiery oratory. In a brief meeting, he rallied the troops, discussed strategy, and disappeared into the night.

Most of the commanders present there in late January had not met him before. But in southern Afghanistan he needed no introduction. He was Mullah Abdul Qayyum Zakir, the man who some Western officials and insurgents say is now the day-to-day leader of the Taliban.

SNIP

A former Guantánamo detainee, he is believed now to be a deputy to reclusive Taliban leader Mullah Omar, a position he assumed upon Pakistan's arrest of the movement's former No. 2, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, and a number of other Taliban leaders.

SNIP

593 boogberg  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:41:22am

re: #585 Jetpilot1101

Hmm. Interesting.

594 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:43:01am

The Pakistani Taliban has released a video featuring leader Hakimullah Mehsud, who intelligence officials believe survived a US drone attack in January.

In the video released to Adnkronos International (AKI), Hakimullah calls for Muslim militants to renew their struggle but it has not been confirmed when the video was made.

The Taliban leader is featured in several videos recorded in Pashtu from a secret location in the town of Mir Ali, where militants are believed to be hiding in North Waziristan.

Hakimullah rejects claims that militants are terrorists and calls on militants to continue their fight against the "crusaders".

“Don’t be saddened, don’t be disheartened! You will dominate if you are Muslim,” Hakimullah said.

SNIP

595 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:45:54am

Twice a week, a caravan of trucks lumbers out of this volatile northwest Pakistan city in the dead of night and makes its way toward Afghanistan, loaded with one of the most coveted substances in a Taliban bombmaker's arsenal: ammonium nitrate fertilizer.

Every time the illicit caravan makes its trip, it moves unhindered past a gantlet of Pakistani police checkposts along the Pak-Afghan Highway. A string of bribes paid out to police, politicians and bureaucrats ensures that the smuggled explosive agent reaches its destination, middlemen on the Afghan side of the border who sell it to insurgents, says the co-owner of a Pakistani trucking firm that dispatches the caravans.

Banned in Afghanistan, ammonium nitrate is the basic ingredient of the Taliban's roadside bombs. The amounts ferried into Afghanistan are staggering. Each truck carries 130 bags, each of which contains 110 pounds of ammonium nitrate. A caravan typically has least 12 trucks, which means a single night's shipment can move 85 tons of the fertilizer.

The caravans head out every third night.

"I know that it's used to kill American soldiers," said the businessman, a lanky, thirtysomething Pashtun from the Khyber district in Pakistan's tribal areas, a haven for Taliban militants. He agreed to discuss his company's smuggling activity on condition that he not be named.

"But people in the tribal areas don't have any choice but to do this," he says. "If they would give us another way to make money, we would take it."

SNIP

596 boogberg  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:46:58am

re: #594 MandyManners

Looks like it is going to be a never ending struggle against these creeps.

597 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:47:04am

Iran produced 10 new helicopters, fighters "Tufan", Iranian Defense Minister, General Ahmad Vahidi said.

He said that a new model of helicopters will allow equipping them with modern missiles, Mehr reported.

SNIP

598 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:48:21am

re: #596 boogberg

Looks like it is going to be a never ending struggle against these creeps.

I posted a link recently about a Taliban mucka-muck who said that they'll wait out the surge and then come roaring back once we withdraw next year.

599 Spare O'Lake  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:48:34am
re: #594 MandyManners

“Don’t be saddened, don’t be disheartened! You will dominate if you are Muslim,” Hakimullah said.

Nothing at all to do with Islam.

600 sattv4u2  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:48:40am

re: #584 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I don't buy the story. I hope that I am right. This is the one thing that I've truly imagined out of Obama. I would've expected W to cheat before O, and I didn't expect W to cheat at all.

Would you have beleived it of Tiger Woods a just a few months back?
John Edwards as he was running for the pres. nomination and/ or VP?

These people are narcisistic.

NOTE ,, I AM NOT SAYING THE STORY ABOUT BHO IS REAL.

I'm just giving some perspective

601 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:50:35am

A Palestinian Authority cleric has warned Palestinian parents that they shouldn't instill fear in their children by threatening them with such evils as monsters, thieves, demons and Jews.

In a sermon broadcast on official PA television, the cleric lists a number of threats that parents use to stop their children from crying, including threatening them with "a Jew."

He warns them that deliberately panicking their children with frightening images is not a good parenting strategy, because "Then the child grows up as a coward."

SNIP

602 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:51:05am

re: #599 Spare O'Lake

Nothing at all to do with Islam.

He's a mis-guided one.

603 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:53:09am

re: #601 MandyManners

A Palestinian Authority cleric has warned Palestinian parents that they shouldn't instill fear in their children by threatening them with such evils as monsters, thieves, demons and Jews.

Interesting.. I would think the cleric would also warn parents of strapping bombs on their children...

604 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:54:06am

Arye King answers his mobile phone with a traditional Arab greeting before switching into Hebrew to inquire about his most recent property deal.

Mr King, one of the best-known settler activists moving Jews into east Jerusalem, which is still predominantly Arab, spends a good deal of his time on the telephone. The surprising part is that many of his business partners are Arabs who are helping him to get settlers into the contested eastern half of the city.

“There are always Arabs who are willing to work with us — at a price, of course,” he told The Times. “This is our method. Everyone knows what we are doing but they can’t stop us. It’s very easy, no problem at all, to find Arabs who are willing to help us.”

SNIP

He works with several other groups and helps with the buying and development of east Jerusalem settlements. Mr King explained the way that he and others got round the system. He uses Christian or Muslim Arabs as puppet buyers from central and northern Israel who want properties in east Jerusalem. Once a deal has gone through the deeds are transferred to Jewish groups or families who move in. In other cases Arab developers are used to expand existing projects so that the construction is not attached to Jewish interests.

SNIP

605 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 5:54:45am

re: #603 HoosierHoops

Interesting.. I would think the cleric would also warn parents of strapping bombs on their children...

The goal is to not raise cowards.

606 The Left  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:03:13am

re: #584 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I don't buy the story. I hope that I am right. This is the one thing that I've truly imagined out of Obama. I would've expected W to cheat before O, and I didn't expect W to cheat at all.

Yeah. I don't buy it.
I'm only surprised it took this long for someone to push the "Obama is cheating!' meme-- but that's because the more fevered swamps have been pushing the "Obama is GAY!" meme for much longer.

A few people did push a story about Obama and this aide during the campaign, but mostly the Obama-haterz have been running with the "he's gay!" lie. My favourite entry in that particular lunatic fest was a post by someone who found it awfully suspicious that none of Obama's ex-girlfriends popped up in tabloids, and so concluded that the reason is....he's gay.

607 Only The Lurker Knows  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:06:00am

Morning Lizards.

Hey, FBV. Looks like you were right.

But they are still screwed.

GPS device leads to arrests in Cassia Co. copper thefts

608 boogberg  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:10:59am

re: #607 Bubblehead II

How the heck is that entrapment?

609 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:11:34am

It has been a strange, disorientating and upsetting few months for Gita Sahgal. The former head of Amnesty International's gender unit was suspended in February after a very public and acrimonious dispute with her bosses. Two weeks ago she left it altogether. Her departure was provoked, according to a statement by Amnesty, by "irreconcilable differences".

The row – over Amnesty's links with Islamist pressure groups – has led to a succession of negative headlines for a body unused to such bad publicity. According to Sahgal, the affair was symptomatic of an organisation that has lost its moral bearings and risks alienating whole swathes of liberal sympathisers.

In her first newspaper interview since leaving the charity altogether, Sahgal delivers a withering critique of her former employers, describing the modern Amnesty's leadership as suffering from "ideological bankruptcy" and"misogyny". Although Amnesty is still one of the best known advocates of women's rights in the world, Sahgal told the Observer that an "atmosphere of terror" prevailed inside the organisation in which debate is suppressed and staff are cowed into accepting the prevailing line.

SNIP

She became head of Amnesty's gender unit in 2003. The explosive falling out in one of the world's leading human rights organisations took place after the publication of an e-mail Sahgal sent to the leadership, complaining that Amnesty had become too closely linked to a "pro-jihadi group". The email appeared in a national newspaper in February. Sahgal claimed the charity's links with Moazzam Begg, a former inmate at Guantánamo Bay, and his group Cageprisoners were undermining its campaign for women's rights.

Begg, she claimed in the leaked email, was "Britain's most famous supporter of the Taliban". She believed it was legitimate to give a platform to Begg's account of his experience of unlawful detention and torture, but his beliefs meant it was a "gross error" to associate Amnesty with his organisation.

"It's something that undermines every aspect of the work we have done on discrimination against minorities. I cannot underestimate the level of horror expressed throughout the global women's movement," she told the Observer.

The problem, for Sahgal, is Begg's championing the rights of "hate" preachers and alleged defence of the notoriously misogynistic Taliban, which has used its power to systematically suppress the rights of women.

SNIP

610 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:15:05am

Without fanfare, the United Nations this week elected Iran to its Commission on the Status of Women, handing a four-year seat on the influential human rights body to a theocratic state in which stoning is enshrined in law and lashings are required for women judged "immodest."

Just days after Iran abandoned a high-profile bid for a seat on the U.N. Human Rights Council, it began a covert campaign to claim a seat on the Commission on the Status of Women, which is "dedicated exclusively to gender equality and advancement of women," according to its website.

SNIP

Iran's election comes just a week after one of its senior clerics declared that women who wear revealing clothing are to blame for earthquakes, a statement that created an international uproar — but little affected their bid to become an international arbiter of women's rights.

"Many women who do not dress modestly ... lead young men astray, corrupt their chastity and spread adultery in society, which (consequently) increases earthquakes," said the respected cleric, Hojatoleslam Kazem Sedighi.

As word of Iran's intention to join the women's commission came out, a group of Iranian activists circulated a petition to the U.N. asking that member states oppose its election.

"Iran's discriminatory laws demonstrate that the Islamic Republic does not believe in gender equality," reads the letter, signed by 214 activists and endorsed by over a dozen human rights bodies.

The letter draws a dark picture of the status of women in Iran: "women lack the ability to choose their husbands, have no independent right to education after marriage, no right to divorce, no right to child custody, have no protection from violent treatment in public spaces, are restricted by quotas for women's admission at universities, and are arrested, beaten, and imprisoned for peacefully seeking change of such laws."

SNIP

611 Only The Lurker Knows  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:15:18am

re: #608 boogberg

It isn't. That's why they are screwed. Well that and having 6 other spools of (probably stolen) wire in the trailer as well.

But remember, all individuals in this story are innocent until proven guilty in a Court of Law.

612 sattv4u2  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:17:52am

re: #606 iceweasel

more fevered swamps have been pushing the "Obama is GAY!" meme for much longer.

1st time I've see that one

Guess I don't frequent the 'right" swamps

613 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:19:12am

Fucking idiot gets his politics from a movie he saw a few years ago.

The BBC's apology for an anti-Israel comedy skit is cowardly, Scottish comedian Frankie Boyle said in an open letter published in British media outlets Saturday, saying he was right to criticize Israel for being an "aggressive terrorist state."

Earlier this week, the BBC's Trust issued a public apology for Boyle's comedy bit, originally aired on the station's Political Animal radio show in June 2008, and in which the comedian made remarks such as: "I've been studying Israeli Army Martial Arts. I now know 16 ways to kick a Palestinian woman in the back."

Boyle had also said in his 2008 comedy bit that, while "people think that the Middle East is very complex but I have an analogy that sums it up quite well."

"If you imagine that Palestine is a big cake, well... that cake is being punched to pieces by a very angry Jew," Boyle said.

In his letter published Saturday, Boyle said that he first thought "the show's producers will have thought that Israel, an aggressive, terrorist state with a nuclear arsenal was an appropriate target for satire," adding that the BBC's recent apology proved him wrong.

SNIP

614 Obdicut  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:21:15am

re: #613 MandyManners

What an asshole.

616 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:22:54am

A Jewish French citizen was seriously hurt Friday after being assaulted with an iron rod and a knife in the center of Strasbourg.

The DPA news agency reported that the man, 42, was attacked by two men wearing djellabas, robes traditionally worn in North Africa.

Eyewitnesses reported that the Jew, who was wearing a traditional skullcap, was hit in the back with the iron rod by one of the men, while the other stabbed him in the chest. SNIP

About two weeks ago, the central synagogue in the French town of Mulhouse was burnt down, and the local Jewish community suspected it was an act of arson ahead of the Holocaust Remembrance Day.

The building caught fire during Shabbat prayers and sustained heavy damages. Fortunately, there were no injuries.

Local Jewish sources said they fear the fire was deliberate, after the synagogue was already defaced earlier this year with anti-Semitic graffiti slogans.

SNIP

617 The Left  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:22:58am

re: #612 sattv4u2

more fevered swamps have been pushing the "Obama is GAY!" meme for much longer.

1st time I've see that one

Guess I don't frequent the 'right" swamps

I definitely wouldn't expect you or anyone else here to hang out in such places-- unless it's for purposes of mockery and research. We're talking complete crazy. Worse than people like RSM and Geller.

The "Obama is ghey!" meme was promoted during the campaign in a series of youtube videos by some maniac who claimed he spent a night in a club doing coke with Obama and then gave him a blowjob. You may possibly have heard of that one, because that one got quite a bit of discussion, but in general the "Obama is GHEY!" lie has been confined to the hardcore lunatics in not-very-well-travelled corners of the intertubes.

618 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:23:27am

re: #614 Obdicut

What an asshole.

Gee. I wonder why he thought the Beeb would tolerate it.

619 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:24:06am

re: #615 Spare O'Lake

Women's rights are merely collateral damage of Amnesty's hatred of Amerikan Imperializm.

Gotta' say I admire Saghal.

620 Obdicut  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:27:43am

re: #618 MandyManners

Well, they didn't.

621 Spare O'Lake  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:29:08am

re: #616 MandyManners

The DPA news agency reported that the man, 42, was attacked by two men wearing djellabas, robes traditionally worn in North Africa.

Gee, I wonder what this attack had to do with Northern African fashion.

622 sattv4u2  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:32:39am

re: #620 Obdicut

Well, they didn't.

Well ,,,,,, they did, at least for almost two years

Article states the show was aired June 2008, apology was last week!

623 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:32:55am

The US president is proposing to hand control of the Middle East peace process to the international community unless there is a breakthrough in the next few months, Israeli officials have said.

Mr Obama has formulated a secret plan with leading European allies to convene an international peace conference by the end of the year, according to Israel's Haaretz newspaper.

The move would fulfil one of Israel's deepest fears by effectively stripping the Jewish state of its power to dictate the course of talks.
The conference would attempt to end decades of Israeli-Palestinian conflict by pressing both sides to accept difficult compromises on issues ranging from the future of millions of Palestinian refugees to the status of Jerusalem.

Mr Obama is also eager to gain international recognition for the creation of a Palestinian state.

SNIP

624 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:33:23am

re: #620 Obdicut

Well, they didn't.

He was certainly surprised.

625 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:33:49am

re: #621 Spare O'Lake

Gee, I wonder what this attack had to do with Northern African fashion.

Don't go all fashion-Nazi on me.

626 boogberg  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:33:57am

re: #622 sattv4u2

Yeah, I noticed that too.

627 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:34:16am

re: #625 MandyManners

Don't go all fashion-Nazi on me.

No Soup for you!

628 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:34:18am

re: #622 sattv4u2

Well ,,, they did, at least for almost two years

Article states the show was aired June 2008, apology was last week!

Yeah. What took them so long?

629 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:34:48am

re: #627 HoosierHoops

No Soup for you!

Thanks to LGF and a divorce site, I get the reference.

630 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:36:57am

Wha'?

If your Gov. don’t make rules for Punishing anyone Insult Religions in the name of ( Freedom of Speech ! ) or ( Freedom to Insult )

So, take this rule of Hacking ! in the name of

[ Hacking is a Knowledge and the Knowledge is Free ! ] It means [ Hacking Anyone I want !!!!]

If your People can behave and Learn how to Respect , act rationally and stop to Insult Other Religions

under the name of ( Freedom to Insult ) or ( Freedom of Speech )

Then the Rule of Hacking will be stopped

SNIP

631 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:38:28am

re: #630 MandyManners

Wha'?

If your Gov. don’t make rules for Punishing anyone Insult Religions in the name of ( Freedom of Speech ! ) or ( Freedom to Insult )

I doubt he could pass the bar to teach English in Arizona.

632 Spare O'Lake  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:38:58am
re: #613 MandyManners

Fucking idiot gets his politics from a movie he saw a few years ago.

The BBC's apology for an anti-Israel comedy skit is cowardly, Scottish comedian Frankie Boyle said in an open letter published in British media outlets Saturday, saying he was right to criticize Israel for being an "aggressive terrorist state."


Other than write a few stupid jokes I have not done anything," Boyle told BBC executives in his letter, adding: "Neither have you."

His "jokes" are not only hateful, they are not even remotely funny.

633 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:41:57am

re: #632 Spare O'Lake

His "jokes" are not only hateful, they are not even remotely funny.

I wonder what would have happened if he had said something similar about Iran or Saudi Arabia or the Taliban.

634 Only The Lurker Knows  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:42:00am

Time to get ready for w*rk.

L8R Lizards.

635 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:48:23am

Guess I'll watch Crazy Heart again today.. A wonderful movie but..
SPOILER ALERT!
Jeff doesn't get the girl in the end..A very disappointing ending..
Hey dumbass movie writers and directors..
The guy ALWAYS gets the girl at the end! Thanks for the frickking let down..
Hope you enjoy your Oscar....At least I know I can turn-off the movie with 5 minutes to go and not worry about the lame ass ending.. After getting sober for 16 months and turning around his life to win back Maggie and she marries some one else? Might as well start drinking again.
/

636 The Left  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:49:10am

Happy Beltane to all—may your livestock suffer no murrain!

Youtube Video

* Entirely stolen from Balloon Juice.

637 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:49:40am

re: #634 Bubblehead II

Time to get ready for w*rk.

L8R Lizards.

Is that you, Maynard?

Youtube Video
638 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:51:57am

Richard Goldstone, the former international war crimes prosecutor, is being forced to meet South African Jewish leaders to hear of their anger over a UN report in which he accused Israel of war crimes in Gaza. The meeting, which Goldstone did not seek, is effectively a condition for his being allowed to attend his grandson's bar mitzvah in Johannesburg.

The renowned South African jurist, who works in Washington, was effectively barred from attending the traditional ceremony at an orthodox synagogue this month after Jewish groups threatened to disrupt it if Goldstone was present.

In the ensuing row, which spread from Johannesburg to America and Israel, Goldstone accused South Africa's chief rabbi, Warren Goldstein, of "brazenly politicising" the bar mitzvah.

Goldstein has been at the forefront of a global campaign to discredit and vilify Goldstone over the UN report, which accused Israel and Hamas of committing war crimes in Gaza during last year's fighting. The chief rabbi has called the former South African supreme court justice a liar, accusing him of "delegitimising Israel".

SNIP

639 sattv4u2  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:52:55am

re: #637 MandyManners

Is that you, Maynard?


[Video]

He was my second favorite "Maynard"

My alltime favorite is

[Link: www.dailymotion.com...]

640 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:57:22am

Here's my favorite Maynard....

Youtube Video
641 Macha  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:58:14am

re: #557 Cato the Elder

Cato, you made my May Day morning with this one. Beautiful! and with Botticelli's Primavera for good measure. Thank you!

642 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:01:00am

Any reader of this website knows we write often about the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). There is ample evidence that it is not the moderate voice of American Muslims as it claims to be. In two and a half years, CAIR has responded to us only once. That's probably out of a desire to not call more attention to information CAIR officials would prefer you not know about them.

So it was a little surprising to see a hastily assembled response to Wednesday's story, which called CAIR out for its paranoid response to the controversy surrounding RevolutionMuslim.com's threat to South Park producers Matt Stone and Trey Parker.

Rather than simply condemn such intimidation outright, CAIR officials voiced concern that the threats might be some conspiratorial effort to make Muslims look bad.

The CAIR-Chicago response calls IPT Executive Director Steve Emerson a liar three times, taking issue with the story's statement that CAIR-Chicago Executive Director Ahmed Rehab dismissed RevolutionMuslim as fraudulent. Rehab merely was citing the views of others, the CAIR response said, so our paraphrase was an outrageous misrepresentation:

SNIP

In a Chicago Tribune column, Rehab echoes Hooper's line. Left unsaid is who they think would orchestrate a conspiracy like that. But Rehab cites claims that the group's leader was a Jew who attended an orthodox rabbinical school before converting to Islam and wonders whether they are "true Muslims or agent provocateurs." When he refers to them as Muslims, he sets it off in quote marks, questioning their legitimacy.

The sum of those parts is that Rehab was calling RevolutionMuslim fraudulent. We weren't the only ones to notice. Harris Zafar, director of community service for the Portland, Ore.-based Ahmadiyya Muslim Youth Association, wrote his own column in which he took on the "South Park" threat in clear and direct language:

"Islam is not for censorship. Islam is not for violence or threats of violence. The implicit death threats from 'Revolution Muslim' are completely unwarranted and outside the pale of Islam."

HASSAN CHOP

643 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:05:39am

I woke up to find that the Nork sub/Gulf oil rig conspiracy theory is speading like a virulent disease. Here is the latest iteration, posted at Free Republic.

Was the Gulf Oil Rig Explosion a Deliberate Attack on America?

Torpedoes would make sense for the results we see. The platform exploded, despite redundant safety features; plus, something apparently also happened on the Gulf floor at the opening of the well to prevent engineers from being able to stop the flow of oil from it. Two topedoes launched from a submarine could cause those things to happen.

This strategically and technologically illiterate fantasy is playing well with the ODS mob, with the "SWAT" teams being ominously tied in somehow. (Would you really send a SWAT team in response to a submarine attack?)

Some of the freepers, to their credit, are having none of it though:

Please explain to me using your vast store of complex military strageries, exactly how North Korea managed to get a mini-sub, or any size sub for that matter, all the way from NoKo to the Gulf of Mexico completely undeteected??

This is sheer fantasy from someone who is pimping their blog, and you’re not the first one to put this nonsense forward, so don’t feel too badly. But we have enough real problems in the world right now without making things like this up out of whole cloth.

644 RogueOne  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:07:33am

How did I miss this yesterday? Have you guys already talked about this?

Dems spark alarm with call for national ID card
[Link: thehill.com...]


A plan by Senate Democratic leaders to reform the nation’s immigration laws ran into strong opposition from civil liberties defenders before lawmakers even unveiled it Thursday.

Democratic leaders have proposed requiring every worker in the nation to carry a national identification card with biometric information, such as a fingerprint, within the next six years, according to a draft of the measure.

Anyone who thinks this is a bad idea must have something to hide.

645 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:08:31am

re: #644 RogueOne

How did I miss this yesterday? Have you guys already talked about this?

Dems spark alarm with call for national ID card
[Link: thehill.com...]

Anyone who thinks this is a bad idea must have something to hide.

I think it's a profoundly bad idea.

646 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:10:48am

TWO men, including a US-Australian dual citizen, have been charged with conspiring to give computer advice, buy wrist watches and do other tasks to help al-Qaeda "modernise".

A vaguely worded indictment unsealed yesterday in Manhattan’s federal court accused Wesam El-Hanafi, who was born in Brooklyn, of travelling to Yemen to meet with unnamed al-Qaeda members in February 2008.

The terrorists "instructed him on operational security measures and directed him to perform tasks for al-Qaeda," the indictment says. While there, he also "took an oath of allegiance to al-Qaeda," it adds.

In February 2008, El-Hanafi, 33, bought computer software that allowed him to secretly communicate over the internet, federal prosecutors allege. That summer, he met with an unnamed co-conspirator and the second defendant, US-Australian dual citizen Sabirhan Hasanoff, in Brooklyn to discuss joining al-Qaeda, according to the indictment.

The confidential co-conspirator paid $US50,000 ($53,900) to Mr Hasanoff, 34, who later travelled to New York City and performed unspecified "tasks for al-Qaeda", the court papers say. The papers say that the conspiracy included Mr El-Hanafi purchasing seven Casio digital watches last year, but doesn't say why.

SNIP

647 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:11:07am

re: #644 RogueOne

How did I miss this yesterday? Have you guys already talked about this?

Dems spark alarm with call for national ID card
[Link: thehill.com...]

Anyone who thinks this is a bad idea must have something to hide.

The "Mark of the Beast." If you want to incite every fundamentalist group in the country to pour out of their churches, grab their guns, and start burning tires in the street, this is a good way to do it.

648 bratwurst  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:11:32am

re: #577 Jetpilot1101

OT: I'm sure you've all see the story about the Obama cheating scandal from the National Enquirer.

Disclaimer: I don't believe this story but I will say that the NE was right about the John Edwards story. I still don't believe this story, the president is much smarter than this.


I have been searching the archives all night, but I can't seem to find any lizards commenting on this National Enquirer story from back in 2005. Yes, they were ahead of everyone on the Edwards story...but a broken watch is also correct twice a day.

649 sattv4u2  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:12:34am

re: #644 RogueOne

How did I miss this yesterday? Have you guys already talked about this?

Dems spark alarm with call for national ID card
[Link: thehill.com...]

Anyone who thinks this is a bad idea must have something to hide.


I just think it odd that in many states (Georgia, for instance) it's the dems that fight tooth and nail against ID cards for voting purposes and here they are promoting the very same idea on a national basis

[Link: www.ajc.com...]
Superior Court Judge Tom Campbell, in a three-page order signed Monday, rejected claims by the Georgia's Democratic Party and others that the voter ID law unduly burdens the right to vote

The dems tried every scare tactic to block this bill when it was introduced.
"poor people can't afford an ID card " (the state would provide them for free if someone couldn't pay)

650 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:14:34am

The voice from Turkey is scratchy but the message is clear: the Iranian sheikh facing deportation from Australia, Mansour Leghaei, is an extremist and a ''mastermind terrorist''.

The accuser, an Iranian dissident who has fled the regime, has established contact with the Herald on an internet phone line to condemn Leghaei, the Sydney sheikh who ASIO has branded a threat to national security. This is the same moderate Shia preacher who Christian leaders have hailed for building bridges in the Australian community; who has won the unanimous support of Canterbury and Marrickville councils; and who the federal Attorney General, Robert McClelland - the man in charge of ASIO - once described as an asset to the nation.

There is one big problem with the accuser hiding in Turkey. He can offer no proof. For the media, this has always been the frustration when reporting on Leghaei, whose eviction from Australia - after a 13-year battle - could be days away.

SNIP

I wonder what the Cat-Meat Sheikh is up to nowadays.

651 Liberal Classic  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:15:00am

re: #643 Shiplord Kirel

The idea that a North Korean mini-submarine could reach 5000 feet depth is pure fantasy.

652 sattv4u2  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:16:09am

re: #651 Liberal Classic

The idea that a North Korean mini-submarine could reach 5000 feet depth is pure fantasy.

I dunno. I'll bet if one got hostile in the open seas our navy would make sure the Nork sub could go that low !!
//

653 RogueOne  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:18:14am

re: #645 MandyManners

re: #649 sattv4u2

They think the new AZ immigration law is so bad they want to apply it to everyone. Good argument.

654 Liberal Classic  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:18:30am

re: #652 sattv4u2

I stand corrected. :)

655 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:18:34am

A veteran sheriff's deputy was shot and wounded Friday after encountering a group of suspected illegal immigrants who apparently had been hauling bales of marijuana along a major smuggling corridor in the Arizona desert- a violent episode that comes amid a heated national debate over immigration.

State and federal law enforcement agencies deployed helicopters and scores of officers in pursuit of the suspects after the deputy was shot with an AK-47 on Friday afternoon, and the search continued into the night. Deputy Louie Puroll, 53, had a chunk of skin torn from just above his left kidney, but the wound was not serious. He was released Friday night from Casa Grande Regional Medical Center.

SNIP

656 jamesfirecat  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:19:58am

re: #652 sattv4u2

I dunno. I'll bet if one got hostile in the open seas our navy would make sure the Nork sub could go that low !!
//

Grand old subs are never sunk, they just dive one last time....

657 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:20:15am

re: #653 RogueOne

re: #649 sattv4u2

They think the new AZ immigration law is so bad they want to apply it to everyone. Good argument.

I've not heard that Arizona is wanting ID cards with biometric information on them for everyone.

658 RogueOne  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:23:08am

CNN: THIS JUST IN!
Oil Spill Could Be Disaster For Animals


I'm so glad CNN is on top of this because I never would have made the connection.

659 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:23:11am

re: #652 sattv4u2

I dunno. I'll bet if one got hostile in the open seas our navy would make sure the Nork sub could go that low !!
//

Refueling a diesel boat would be a big issue....The full size Japanese boats can make it to Pearl harbor on a full tank.. Yes Lizards! We refill the Japanese boats at Pearl..And when the Japanese are in Port we play not only our national Anthem at 8am but also the Japanese National anthem..
Some wing nut is now ready to shoot somebody over this outrage of the day!

660 RogueOne  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:23:32am

re: #657 MandyManners

I've not heard that Arizona is wanting ID cards with biometric information on them for everyone.

They want people to carry their papers. Same thing.

661 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:26:12am

Good morning honcos.

662 RogueOne  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:27:45am

Special election for Murtha's seat tilts toward the GOP
[Link: thehill.com...]

Karma

663 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:30:08am

You know what I love. When you loan someone, say $60 in a week, then you ask the person to come over and look at, say, a leak in the sink. And the person you lent the money to is, say, an out of work plumber, and then the out of work plumber who you just lent $60 to acts like it's a big mother fucking deal. I feel all warm today.

664 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:32:34am

re: #660 RogueOne

They want people to carry their papers. Same thing.

Not really. Wouldn't the federal government have a record of everyone's fingerprint if it was included on the "workers' ID"?

665 Wozza Matter?  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:32:40am

watching the Afghan cricket team playing against India in the West Indies in the T/20 world cup pool game..............

666 Ericus58  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:32:55am

SCIENCE FILE; Rediscovered Soviet rover thrills lunar scientists
Los Angeles Times 05/01/2010
Author: Amina Khan
Copyright 2010 The Los Angeles Times

"A Soviet Union lunar rover discovered in March on the moon's surface might still prove useful nearly four decades after scientists lost track of it. Physicists announced Monday that the rover's reflector can still shine bright."It's been silent for almost 40 years, and nobody knew if it was even viable anymore," said Tom Murphy, a physicist at UC San Diego. Murphy led the team that identified the location of the reflector.

Soviet scientists lost contact with the Lunokhod 1 rover on Sept. 14, 1971, 10 months after its landing. American scientists initially scoured the lunar surface via telescope in an effort to find the rover's reflector, a small device from which much information could be gleaned, but soon gave up.

The reflector, which is attached to the rover, contains a series of glass prisms. If physicists direct a laser beam at the reflector, the prisms bounce the light back. Based on how and when the light returns -- and how many other reflectors are available to provide data -- physicists can learn about the structure and movement of the moon.
.............
The fact that the reflector works at all is probably the result of pure dumb luck, he said.

"We had learned many years ago that the Russian driver operating the Lunokhod did not know it had to be parked at a certain angle to use the reflectors, so we had assumed all these years that it had been lost to us," Silverberg said. "He would have had to park it within 10% of the right angle ... and he did that accidentally."
.............
On April 22, the scientists used a telescope-based laser beam, sent from the Apache Point Observatory in New Mexico, to pinpoint the location of the reflector. It was bouncing back a remarkably strong signal.

That's surprising, given that the signal from the other Soviet reflector is far weaker than it used to be, Murphy said.

The return signal "just came blazing through, incredibly strong -- five times stronger than I expected," Murphy said. "So that's a new mystery we'll be chewing on -- why are the two behaving so differently? What happened to Lunokhod 2?"

The reflector's location -- near the visible edge of the moon -- allows scientists to get a more sensitive reading when the moon wobbles due to gravitational distortion."

667 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:33:17am

re: #663 Cannadian Club Akbar

You know what I love. When you loan someone, say $60 in a week, then you ask the person to come over and look at, say, a leak in the sink. And the person you lent the money to is, say, an out of work plumber, and then the out of work plumber who you just lent $60 to acts like it's a big mother fucking deal. I feel all warm today.

Are you thinking you'll kiss that money good-bye?

668 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:35:26am

re: #665 wozzablog

watching the Afghan cricket team playing against India in the West Indies in the T/20 world cup pool game...

Are you jacked up for the World Cup? The Commercials have been outstanding on ESPN...

669 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:36:00am

re: #667 MandyManners

Are you thinking you'll kiss that money good-bye?

Yes. And my "Gotta Give Him an Ass Chewing" list has 2 names on it. Both are blood, so that makes it easier. Actually, I'm an asshole, so the ass chewing is easy for me regardless.

670 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:36:57am

Clashes erupted at the finance ministry and a state TV truck was petrol bombed. A tense stand-off continues, with protesters hurling bottles and rocks.

Thousands of Greeks are taking part in May Day rallies called by trade unions and left-wing parties.

The EU is demanding the austerity cuts in exchange for a huge bail-out deal.

The rescue package is expected to amount to as much as 120bn euros (£100bn; $160bn) over three years.

The full details of the bail-out are expected to be revealed on Sunday if the Eurozone leaders finally sign off the deal, which is designed to prevent Greece from defaulting on its enormous debt obligations.

Hoards of angry protesters marched through Athens shouting: "Hands off our rights! IMF and EU Commission out!"

SNIP

During the protests, a prominent hotel was vandalised in the central Syntagma square.

There were reports of similar scenes in the northern city of Thessaloniki as youths attacked banks and business premises with iron bars.

There is huge public resistance to the wage cuts, tax rises and pension reductions that are expected to be implemented.

Our correspondent says the unions hope that the rallies will demonstrate to the government, the Eurozone, the IMF and the international markets, that they can mobilise enough "troops" to defeat the new austerity programme.

SNIP

They're mad at the government so they attack private property?

671 jaunte  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:36:58am

Good morning Honcos.
May Day Riot Sightseeing in Berlin

672 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:37:25am

re: #669 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yes. And my "Gotta Give Him an Ass Chewing" list has 2 names on it. Both are blood, so that makes it easier. Actually, I'm an asshole, so the ass chewing is easy for me regardless.

I'd never loan them money again.

673 Wozza Matter?  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:37:44am

re: #668 HoosierHoops

Are you jacked up for the World Cup? The Commercials have been outstanding on ESPN...

meh.

Scotland didn't qualify - so i have to align the general mishmash of teams to support who stand a chance of beating the English (not difficult)

I'd like an African team to make it through a couple of rounds - always exciting teams.

I'm just gonna end up watching every game regardless of who's playing......... :-)

i'm an addict/

674 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:38:20am

re: #671 jaunte

Good morning Honcos.
May Day Riot Sightseeing in Berlin

And, Nepal and Greece. Anywhere else?

675 RogueOne  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:38:22am

re: #664 MandyManners

Not really. Wouldn't the federal government have a record of everyone's fingerprint if it was included on the "workers' ID"?

Yes, but that isn't the only problem I have with either. The idea that the government has the right to demand EVERYONE always carry and be prepared to provide evidence of who they are is mistaken. They don't have that right and I don't think we should give it to them.

676 _RememberTonyC  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:38:23am

It's the unintended fallout that always gets you. Multitasking can be a good thing, but on mattters of life and death, I like to proceed with a bit more caution. I think one very fair criticism of the Obama administration is that they are trying to do EVERYTHING at once. And I see that as a political strategy as opposed to a leadership strategy. And it concerns me because frequently the RIGHT decision is the UNPOPULAR decision. You gotta have brass cojones sometimes and put politics on the back burner. And for G-d's sake ... SLOW DOWN and let the dust settle so people don't feel they're being steamrolled.

677 Daniel Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:40:18am

re: #671 jaunte

I really do not have any liking for the rock throwing anarchists. ugh. I hope they stay away from LA.

678 Wozza Matter?  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:40:40am

re: #673 wozzablog

Scotland didn't qualify - so i have to align the general mishmash of teams to support who stand a chance of beating the English (not difficult)

not that i'm petty or anything..............

679 RogueOne  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:41:47am

Have to take dog to vet for check-up and shots, everyone have a good day.

680 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:42:02am

re: #673 wozzablog

meh.

Scotland didn't qualify - so i have to align the general mishmash of teams to support who stand a chance of beating the English (not difficult)

I'd like an African team to make it through a couple of rounds - always exciting teams.

I'm just gonna end up watching every game regardless of who's playing... :-)

i'm an addict/

I was working in Europe during the 2005 World Cup...I bought the Dutch Soccer uniform to bring home...Damn I love the Passion of those fans

681 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:42:52am

re: #677 Rightwingconspirator

I really do not have any liking for the rock throwing anarchists. ugh. I hope they stay away from LA.

Dude, you're a Capitalist. Get a truck, fill it with rocks, sell them 3 for a dollar. Then buy yourself a Slurpee.:)

682 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:43:09am

Senior Pentagon leaders on Friday warned Congress not to tamper with the ban on gays serving openly in the military until they can come up with a plan for dealing with potential opposition in the ranks.

In a strongly worded letter obtained by The Associated Press, Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Mike Mullen told the House Armed Services Committee that forcing policy changes on the military before it’s ready would be a mistake.

“Our military must be afforded the opportunity to inform us of their concerns, insights and suggestions if we are to carry out this change successfully,” Gates and Mullen wrote to the panel’s chairman, Missouri Democrat Ike Skelton.

Gay rights advocates want an immediate freeze on military firings of openly gay service members, and some senior Democratic senators have said they want to offer such a bill. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Friday said the Obama administration should suspend enforcement of the law until the Defense Department completes its study and Congress can act to change it.

But other lawmakers, including Skelton, have said they are uneasy about lifting the ban and don’t want to act before the force is ready.

SNIP

683 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:43:24am

SHAMELESS MORNING COOKBOOK PROMOTION:

Click my nic and check out Volume 2 of the Cookbook - Reality Bites!

Worth the price for Jaunte's artwork alone which appears in this Volume on the INSIDE as well as on the covers.

Also, Cato wrote a poem especially for this book, and Killgore has his Very Own Gardening Section!

Plus the recipes - to die for!

And the ROFLMAO section, starring many lizards!

Today is the first of the month (payday?) - and Mother's Day is coming soon!

684 _RememberTonyC  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:43:57am

re: #680 HoosierHoops

I was working in Europe during the 2005 World Cup...I bought the Dutch Soccer uniform to bring home...Damn I love the Passion of those fans

former hoosier (pacers) legend and current Celtic marquis daniels needs to take a few whacks at lebron's elbow tonight ..... I can't wait!

685 reloadingisnotahobby  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:44:16am

OT
Remember the Family of Franco Aguilar a Sargent with the Sevier County
Sheriffs Dept.

Lost his life while responding to a traffic accident on I-70 Thursday night.
As I understand it,Thursday was his 36th birthday.
Leaving a wife and three children.
RIP!Franco

686 Daniel Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:44:35am

re: #681 Cannadian Club Akbar

LOL!

687 _RememberTonyC  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:45:50am

computer is running crazy slow ... BBL

688 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:46:07am

re: #684 _RememberTonyC

former hoosier (pacers) legend and current Celtic marquis daniels needs to take a few whacks at lebron's elbow tonight ... I can't wait!

GO CELTICS!

689 Daniel Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:46:17am

re: #683 reine.de.tout

Hi RDT!
How are sales?

690 Wozza Matter?  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:46:32am

re: #680 HoosierHoops

I was working in Europe during the 2005 World Cup...I bought the Dutch Soccer uniform to bring home...Damn I love the Passion of those fans

the dutch always self destruct - always. it hasn't happend yet this year, yet, but before the tournament three top players will walk out and the kit manager will end up coaching the team :-p

uniform = kit

theres no crowd like a football crowd - the chanting, singing and hollering. i think american sports last too long to create that sort of vibe in the crowd, they have a vibe - but it never just seems as communal among home fans. Also the distances to travel for any level of away support detracts from the atmosphere compared to european football games.

691 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:46:54am

Conservative groups are predicting tight restrictions on chaplains' religious speech if the military's "don't ask, don't tell" law is overturned, with some evangelical Christian groups contemplating pulling their ministers out of the ranks.

"The approved gospel will be a politically correct gospel," said Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council. "If chaplains are limited in the moral teachings they can present [because of a repeal], you will see orthodox Christian chaplains leaving the military."

But religious leaders within the military and otherwise doubted those predictions.

Air Force Chief of Chaplains Maj. Gen. Cecil Richardson said he thinks a repeal will be a "difficult transition" but "I don't know a single chaplain who want to get out because of that issue."

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In a letter sent earlier this week, 41 retired military chaplains working with the council urged President Barack Obama and Defense Secretary Robert Gates to "protect religious liberty" by leaving the ban in place.

"We are not saying that active-duty chaplains … would be unwilling to minister to those who engage in homosexual behavior," the letter states. "But condoning conduct that God says is harmful and sinful would both violate chaplains' religious calling and betray servicemembers relying on them for godly counsel."

At a press conference Wednesday, Jordan Lawrence, spokesman for the Alliance Defense Fund, said a repeal means that sermons against gay marriage or counseling advising against gay relationships could lead to demotions and dismissal for chaplains.

Retired Army chaplain Brigadier Gen. Douglas Lee said he worries that gay rights activists will push that even further, labeling Bible studies "hate speech" if they don't accept gay relationships as permissible behavior.

SNIP

692 jaunte  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:47:17am

re: #683 reine.de.tout

Plus: the proceeds from every cookbook sold are split to benefit of LGF and Soldiers' Angels

693 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:47:35am

re: #675 RogueOne

Yes, but that isn't the only problem I have with either. The idea that the government has the right to demand EVERYONE always carry and be prepared to provide evidence of who they are is mistaken. They don't have that right and I don't think we should give it to them.

Reminds me of Nazi Germany and the USSR.

694 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:47:51am

re: #658 RogueOne

CNN: THIS JUST IN!
Oil Spill Could Be Disaster For Animals

I'm so glad CNN is on top of this because I never would have made the connection.

I'll file this with MSNBC's revelation that the Arizona FASCISM!!1! HITLER!!1! TEA PARTY!!!!!1!! immigration law, and this is a direct headline quote... "Makes It A Crime To Be An Illegal Immigrant."

Well, knock me over with a feather.

695 bratwurst  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:47:56am

re: #668 HoosierHoops

Are you jacked up for the World Cup? The Commercials have been outstanding on ESPN...

6 weeks from today is the US/England match...Saturday afternoon on ABC, will be the highest rated soccer broadcast in the history of this country, mark it down.

696 reloadingisnotahobby  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:50:12am

It's a beautiful day here in Central Utah!
...I've got a HUGE mess in the yard to finish cleaning up.
Making BIG wood into little wood!!
Yea me!
/

697 Wozza Matter?  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:50:46am

re: #691 MandyManners

If the chaplains are not preaching outright unveiled bigotry about gay people - there should be no problems.

however - it's the whipping up and hysteria created by ne'er do wells in the "think of the children, won't some please think of the children" type media and concern trolling for the oppressed majority that creates a climate for whats described.

698 Wozza Matter?  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:51:07am

re: #695 bratwurst

6 weeks from today is the US/England match...Saturday afternoon on ABC, will be the highest rated soccer broadcast in the history of this country, mark it down.

i'm at a wedding...........

699 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:51:13am

re: #696 reloadingisnotahobby

It's a beautiful day here in Central Utah!
...I've got a HUGE mess in the yard to finish cleaning up.
Making BIG wood into little wood!!
Yea me!
/

That is when she makes you a samich!!!
///

700 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:51:16am

re: #674 MandyManners

And, Nepal and Greece. Anywhere else?

Well, the Workers World (communist) Party is planning a big turnout in NYC:

CALL FOR MAY DAY 2010 UNITY COALITION
May Day 2010 is rapidly approaching.

This year’s May Day is more important than ever as the economic and financial crisis continues to strike a heavy blow on workers from the U.S. and around the world. A recovery with no jobs is a recovery solely for the multinational corporations, who are raking in record profits as the people face increasing poverty, joblessness, homelessness, disease and death.

The escalation of war abroad in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and the racist, ruthless military occupation of Haiti demand our response.

A powerful and massive united fight-back against this onslaught is urgently needed. (emphasis added)

Arseholes

701 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:52:40am

re: #597 MandyManners

Iran produced 10 new helicopters, fighters "Tufan", Iranian Defense Minister, General Ahmad Vahidi said.

Iran talks like that often. But producing a squadron set of helos is more than the usual prototypes from them.

702 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:54:09am

re: #683 reine.de.tout

Thanks for the reminder..I just ordered....
Thanks for all your work on this project..
Oh and it's 1.47 Indiana Sales tax for each book..
*Shakes fist at the Capital*
LOL

703 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:55:32am

re: #670 MandyManners

Clashes erupted at the finance ministry and a state TV truck was petrol bombed. A tense stand-off continues, with protesters hurling bottles and rocks.

They're mad at the government so they attack private property?

They're attacking "EVIL Corporations!!1". Like any good leftists, they know that McDonald's poisons people for profit and banks enslave workers.

/must I?

704 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:57:09am

Mornin' kids...how's things?

705 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:57:50am

re: #675 RogueOne

Yes, but that isn't the only problem I have with either. The idea that the government has the right to demand EVERYONE always carry and be prepared to provide evidence of who they are is mistaken. They don't have that right and I don't think we should give it to them.

I think they should have that right. It would make identifying those here illegally easier, and it would be an aid to the police. I support a national biometric ID.

706 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:58:15am

re: #704 darthstar

Mornin' kids...how's things?

Well, things were fine. But now, not so much.
///

707 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:58:34am

If anyone else is tired of everyone and everything being a nazi, raise your hand?
Aye.

The latest is Seth MacFarlane, Family Guy Creator, to say the new AZ law is what 'teh Nazi's' did!? Oh NOES!!!!111Eleventy.

Both sides have gone beyond riding that horse to death and it's approaching necrophilia now.

708 jaunte  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:58:54am

Rioting as performance art:

Dana Yahalomi: The riot tourism, and the violence, is happening every year. What we're offering is chance to try and rethink the riots, from inside them. We want to approach the violence that exists there, and understand it, and through that, give the public the chance to experience this event again. In a way, we want to take them one step out.... and then bring them back them in. We want to bring back the beauty of protest, and we want people to experience this event intelligently.
[Link: www.thelocal.de...]
709 Wozza Matter?  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:59:12am

laters kids.

710 Daniel Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:00:08am

re: #467 Conservative Moonbat

The same guys who fight legit Voter ID want this now? I don't THINK SO. What a crock.

711 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:01:29am

re: #467 Conservative Moonbat

Democrats Call For National ID Card with Biometric Monitoring

Ummm. I have a problem with this.

Uh....uh... so just what is the outrage in AZ for then?

The stupid is burning...

712 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:01:38am

re: #707 Oh no...Sand People!

If anyone else is tired of everyone and everything being a nazi, raise your hand?
Aye.

The latest is Seth MacFarlane, Family Guy Creator, to say the new AZ law is what 'teh Nazi's' did!? Oh NOES!!!111Eleventy.

Both sides have gone beyond riding that horse to death and it's approaching necrophilia now.

Makes me wonder if he has ever been to Mexico, just sightseeing and wandering around. I bet they never ask for your papers. NEVER!!

713 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:02:11am

re: #712 Cannadian Club Akbar

Makes me wonder if he has ever been to Mexico, just sightseeing and wandering around. I bet they never ask for your papers. NEVER!!

Or anywhere Eastern Bloc.

714 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:02:35am

re: #706 Cannadian Club Akbar

Well, things were fine. But now, not so much.
///

CCA...glad you're here...I needed someone to scratch my balls for me. ;)

715 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:02:47am

The marriage took place at one of the Nigerian capital's most recognizable landmarks, under the golden dome of the National Mosque in front of an audience of the elite.

But the recent wedding of one of the Muslim leaders who brought Shariah law to Africa's most populous nation is under scrutiny as human rights groups say he married a 13-year-old Egyptian girl.

SNIP

Yerima, 49, arranged the marriage with the girl after paying her family a $100,000 dowry, according to a complaint filed by the Nigerian Human Rights Commission in April. Initially, Yerima couldn't arrange a visa for the girl to travel from Egypt to Nigeria, so he instead brought the girl through neighboring Niger, said Chidi Odinkalu, a lawyer for works for the open Society Justice Initiative.

That leaves Yerima open to human trafficking charges, as well as possible child-sex and endangerment charges, the lawyer said.

"You don't need the Quran or the Bible to get this," Odinkalu said. "I think most people, irrespective of the cleavage between the two faiths, wouldn't marry off their 13 year old."

Yet 30 members of the girl's family attended the ceremony at the National Mosque, the human rights commission said. It's unclear who else attended the wedding. Ustaz Musa Mohammed, the chief imam of the National Mosque, could not be reached for comment.

Under child protection laws enforceable in Abuja, Nigeria's capital, a woman must be 18 before being able to consent to marriage. However, those laws aren't enacted in all of Nigeria's 36 states and activists say child brides have been married off in Muslim communities after their first period.

It also isn't the first time Yerima has apparently married a child bride. The right commission alleged that he married a 15-year-old girl, only to divorce her at 17 as she nurses his child.

"The senator is in the habit of marrying minors and has gained notoriety in enticing girls to marry him," the commission said.

Yerima himself appears unrepentant in recent interviews, though he has declined to say how old his new wife is.

"As a Muslim, as I always say, I consider God's law and that of his prophet above any other law," Yerima told the BBC's Hausa language radio service. "I will not respect any law that contradicts that and whoever wants to sanction me for that is free to do that."

SNIP

Aisha was either five or six when Mo married her.

716 bratwurst  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:02:48am

re: #707 Oh no...Sand People!

If anyone else is tired of everyone and everything being a nazi, raise your hand?
Aye.

As I have stated before, one of the things I miss most about Germany (where I lived most of the last decade) is that calling someone you disagree with a nazi is not only considered to be bad taste, it is also illegal. Now we can debate whether or not laws should impinge free speech in this manner, but it is certainly no bad thing to have political discourse raised above the gutter level we observe in the US today.

717 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:03:35am

re: #714 darthstar

CCA...glad you're here...I needed someone to scratch my balls for me. ;)

That is now under a 'shovel ready' job and the gov't is making it a right as we speak. Just head to your county office and sign up for the benefits.

718 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:03:38am

re: #700 Shiplord Kirel

Arseholes

What about the protest in Los Angeles?

719 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:04:16am

re: #716 bratwurst

As I have stated before, one of the things I miss most about Germany (where I lived most of the last decade) is that calling someone you disagree with a nazi is not only considered to be bad taste, it is also illegal. Now we can debate whether or not laws should impinge free speech in this manner, but it is certainly no bad thing to have political discourse raised above the gutter level we observe in the US today.

I have but one up-ding to give...

720 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:04:44am

re: #714 darthstar

CCA...glad you're here...I needed someone to scratch my balls for me. ;)

Cheech in a straight jacket: "Scratch my balls!! Will some one please scratch my balls!!" Heh.

721 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:05:01am

re: #701 Dark_Falcon

Iran talks like that often. But producing a squadron set of helos is more than the usual prototypes from them.

We'll see.

722 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:05:34am

re: #703 Dark_Falcon

They're attacking "EVIL Corporations!!1". Like any good leftists, they know that McDonald's poisons people for profit and banks enslave workers.

/must I?

KORPORASHUNS R EEEBILLL

723 Daniel Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:06:03am

re: #705 Dark_Falcon

I like the idea in principle, but I am really suspicious of the political timing here. But hey, our s/s in already national. Just make that a real card to carry. But no RFID chip. The passport ID theft scandal was just embarrassing.

724 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:06:13am

re: #715 MandyManners

The marriage took place at one of the Nigerian capital's most recognizable landmarks, under the golden dome of the National Mosque in front of an audience of the elite.

Aisha was either five or six when Mo married her.

All the tripe I have waded through reading about it, I have gathered she was 6 when they married, but Magnanimous Mo' didn't shag till about 9.

725 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:06:53am

re: #707 Oh no...Sand People!

If anyone else is tired of everyone and everything being a nazi, raise your hand?
Aye.

The latest is Seth MacFarlane, Family Guy Creator, to say the new AZ law is what 'teh Nazi's' did!? Oh NOES!!!111Eleventy.

Both sides have gone beyond riding that horse to death and it's approaching necrophilia now.

There were some supporters of the bill in Arizona who have Nazi-like beliefs, but it's no longer their bill. The law was amended yesterday (before it has even taken effect) to address public concerns and remove any enabling of racial profiling. Here's a CNN article on the changes:

Arizona governor signs changes into immigration law

An excerpt:

The new Arizona law requires immigrants to carry their alien registration documents at all times and requires police to question people if there is reason to suspect they are in the United States illegally.

Under the law, police would be able to detain an individual based merely on the suspicion that he or she entered the country illegally. But one of the changes -- which had been adopted by state lawmakers Thursday night -- says police could stop suspected illegal immigrants only while enforcing some other law or ordinance.

An officer could only ask about an immigrant's legal status, for example, while investigating that person for speeding, loitering or some other offense.

The new law also makes it a state crime to live in or travel through Arizona illegally. And it targets those who hire illegal immigrant day laborers or knowingly transport them.

University of Arizona law professor Gabriel Chin told CNN that the changes to the bill are significant, insofar as they help remove a "huge disincentive for victims and witnesses to cooperate with the police."

Under the original version of the law, he said, police officers would have been obligated to arrest a suspected illegal immigrant who approached them after being victimized. That would not be the case under the revised law.

Arizona's law originally said that the attorney general or a county attorney cannot investigate complaints based "solely" on factors such as a person's race, color or national origin. The changes enacted Friday remove the word "solely" to emphasize that prosecutors must have some reason other than an individual's race or national origin to investigate.

726 Spare O'Lake  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:07:44am

re: #694 Athens Runaway

I'll file this with MSNBC's revelation that the Arizona FASCISM!!1! HITLER!!1! TEA PARTY!!!1!! immigration law, and this is a direct headline quote... "Makes It A Crime To Be An Illegal Immigrant."

Well, knock me over with a feather.

It is a pathetic commentary on DC that border states are placed in the position of being forced to clarify the illegal immigration status of the southern border interlopers.
When I heard Obama calling the illegal immigrants "undocumented" the other day, I was again reminded that the use of that term is such blatant doublespeak, used by derelict pols to justify the ongoing refusal to enforce the laws of the USA.

727 Daniel Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:07:58am

re: #725 Dark_Falcon

I'll bet the organizers of the marches "forget" to mention the changes to their audience.

728 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:08:11am

re: #715 MandyManners

The marriage took place at one of the Nigerian capital's most recognizable landmarks, under the golden dome of the National Mosque in front of an audience of the elite.

Aisha was either five or six when Mo married her.

And nine years old when he raped her.

729 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:10:09am

One person was killed and 21 were injured when a bomb exploded in Nalchik, the capital of Russia's republic of Kabardino-Balkaria.

The bomb exploded during horse races as the city celebrated May Day.

A spokeswoman for the local Interior Ministry said the bomb was equipped with a timer and filled with pieces of metal designed to injure as many people as possible.

SNIP

730 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:10:23am

re: #726 Spare O'Lake

It is a pathetic commentary on DC that border states are placed in the position of being forced to clarify the illegal immigration status of the southern border interlopers.
When I heard Obama calling the illegal immigrants "undocumented" the other day, I was again reminded that the use of that term is such blatant doublespeak, used by derelict pols to justify the ongoing refusal to enforce the laws of the USA.

How Nazi/racist/Republican of you.

731 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:10:51am

re: #724 Oh no...Sand People!

All the tripe I have waded through reading about it, I have gathered she was 6 when they married, but Magnanimous Mo' didn't shag till about 9.

Oh, that makes it all better.

732 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:11:24am

re: #723 Rightwingconspirator

I like the idea in principle, but I am really suspicious of the political timing here. But hey, our s/s in already national. Just make that a real card to carry. But no RFID chip. The passport ID theft scandal was just embarrassing.

We don't need RFID. Gold foil like that on a SIM card could contain scanable info while only being readable by law enforcement. That would protect privacy while providing ID that would be very hard to counterfeit.

733 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:11:35am

Cold and rainy again. Ugh.

734 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:11:41am

re: #727 Rightwingconspirator

I'll bet the organizers of the marches "forget" to mention the changes to their audience.

Oh, I can't wait to see the 'peacefulness' in these upcoming protests.

I got $10 bucks on 5 businesses being vandalized. Cops being attacked, threatened, or spit upon for starters.

All the while the MFM camerman, LOOK at how peaceful these things are! (while he's taking uppercuts to the face from a rioter..I mean protester.)

735 Spare O'Lake  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:11:54am

re: #715 MandyManners

The marriage took place at one of the Nigerian capital's most recognizable landmarks, under the golden dome of the National Mosque in front of an audience of the elite.

Aisha was either five or six when Mo married her.

That is so unfair. Mo the Diddler didn't actually start raping her until she was nine...so there!

736 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:13:01am

re: #726 Spare O'Lake

It is a pathetic commentary on DC that border states are placed in the position of being forced to clarify the illegal immigration status of the southern border interlopers.
When I heard Obama calling the illegal immigrants "undocumented" the other day, I was again reminded that the use of that term is such blatant doublespeak, used by derelict pols to justify the ongoing refusal to enforce the laws of the USA.

Controlling the language? Will BHO issue guidelines to federal employees to call them "undocumented" the way he has changed the language of terrorism? (IIRC, there were three words/phrases not to be used any more.)

737 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:13:16am

re: #734 Oh no...Sand People!

Oh, I can't wait to see the 'peacefulness' in these upcoming protests.

I got $10 bucks on 5 businesses being vandalized. Cops being attacked, threatened, or spit upon for starters.

All the while the MFM camerman, LOOK at how peaceful these things are! (while he's taking uppercuts to the face from a rioter..I mean protester.)

Are you describing a Tea Party?

/

738 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:13:34am

re: #729 MandyManners

One person was killed and 21 were injured when a bomb exploded in Nalchik, the capital of Russia's republic of Kabardino-Balkaria.

May Day is nominally about progress, so naturally the Islamists used a bomb to underline their opposition to human advancement and their determination to drag the world back to the 7th century. ROPMA

739 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:13:55am

re: #728 Dark_Falcon

And nine years old when he raped her.

Not to put to fine a point on it but, yes.

BTW, IIRC, one calendar had her at six and the other, at five.

740 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:14:41am

re: #734 Oh no...Sand People!

Oh, I can't wait to see the 'peacefulness' in these upcoming protests.

I got $10 bucks on 5 businesses being vandalized. Cops being attacked, threatened, or spit upon for starters.

All the while the MFM camerman, LOOK at how peaceful these things are! (while he's taking uppercuts to the face from a rioter..I mean protester.)

Well, I can bet you they won't be full of racist and Nazi's type like the Tea Party gatherings.

741 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:15:16am

re: #737 Athens Runaway

Are you describing a Tea Party?

/

If they were physically violent I would be the first person to call them out.

742 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:15:30am

re: #735 Spare O'Lake

That is so unfair. Mo the Diddler didn't actually start raping her until she was nine...so there!

In the article, the "rule" seems to be that "marriage" cannot take place until after the girl's first period.

743 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:15:48am

re: #740 Walter L. Newton

Well, I can bet you they won't be full of racist and Nazi's type like the Tea Party gatherings.

I know. I gotta work that day.
/

744 Daniel Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:16:06am

re: #734 Oh no...Sand People!

That my friend is why I'm going. Ha! If the MSM was any good at this I'd stay home today. I did experience the LA DNC riot years ago. I learned to dislike the black masked violent factions right then and there.

745 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:16:47am

re: #738 Dark_Falcon

May Day is nominally about progress, so naturally the Islamists used a bomb to underline their opposition to human advancement and their determination to drag the world back to the 7th century. ROPMA

Progress or enslavement by the Proletariat?

746 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:17:01am

re: #744 Rightwingconspirator

I can't wait to see your pics.

747 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:17:26am

re: #742 MandyManners

In the article, the "rule" seems to be that "marriage" cannot take place until after the girl's first period.

Alright, does anyone in the Middle East see something completely wrong with that?

I guess it's just me.

"Oh, but she had her first period already!"
*Facepalm*

748 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:17:37am

Hey! What's going on!?

749 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:18:12am

re: #744 Rightwingconspirator

That my friend is why I'm going. Ha! If the MSM was any good at this I'd stay home today. I did experience the LA DNC riot years ago. I learned to dislike the black masked violent factions right then and there.

Why does it always gotta be 'black masks'? What are you tryin' to say?

/sorry..I'm done now...

750 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:18:50am

re: #720 Cannadian Club Akbar

Cheech in a straight jacket: "Scratch my balls!! Will some one please scratch my balls!!" Heh.

Ha! I'd forgotten about that.

751 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:19:00am

re: #747 Oh no...Sand People!

Old enough to bleed? Old enough to breed.

I can not believe I just wrote that.

Should I hit "post this comment"? Probably not.

752 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:19:05am

re: #747 Oh no...Sand People!

Alright, does anyone in the Middle East see something completely wrong with that?

I guess it's just me.

"Oh, but she had her first period already!"
*Facepalm*

It's not just the Middle East but, the ummah, also.

753 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:19:31am

re: #751 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Old enough to bleed? Old enough to breed.

I can not believe I just wrote that.

Should I hit "post this comment"? Probably not.

Pretty much sums it up.

754 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:20:46am

re: #751 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sad, I had heard that by middle school.

755 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:21:07am

re: #745 MandyManners

Progress or enslavement by the Proletariat?

Depends on who you ask. I don't think what the former Soviet Union defined 'progress' as was actually progress, but Russia still holds May Day as a celebration of human advancement. As such, it is hated by the medieval monsters who set off that bomb.

756 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:21:09am

re: #718 MandyManners

What about the protest in Los Angeles?

The LA branch of the WWP split with the parent organization in 2004 and became part of the newly formed Party for Socialism and Liberation.

They will be participating in the gigantic International ANSWER march planned for downtown LA.

A broad, community-based coalition of progressive, pro-immigrant organizations, including the ANSWER Coalition (and member group Party for Socialism and Liberation, is calling for a massive demonstration on May 1 in the heart of downtown Los Angeles. There will be one united May Day March and Rally to demand:

* Full rights for immigrants--legalization now!
* Stop the deportations and family separations!
* Workers' rights and good jobs for all!
* Repeal racist SB 1070--Boycott Arizona!

Tens of thousands of immigrants and their supporters will be there to march for immigrant rights.

757 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:21:10am

re: #754 Oh no...Sand People!

Sad, I had heard that by middle school.

Just didn't know there were complete worldly factions that bought into it...

758 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:21:45am

Not long ago, if this place had 700 plus comments, this computer/ this site would take a bit to see/post comments. Charles must have jacked this MF up!! Pimp My Blog!!!

759 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:21:49am

re: #754 Oh no...Sand People!

Hopefully not by that creepy janitor guy... You know, the one who whistled... all the time...

760 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:22:34am

re: #759 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hopefully not by that creepy janitor guy... You know, the one who whistled... all the time...

Just my uncle who'd give me candy, behind the woodshed...
/

761 Spare O'Lake  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:22:54am

re: #739 MandyManners

Not to put to fine a point on it but, yes.

BTW, IIRC, one calendar had her at six and the other, at five.

I wonder if Mo Diddly thought she looked really hot in her little jammies.
*spit*

762 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:23:18am

re: #759 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hopefully not by that creepy janitor guy... You know, the one who whistled... all the time...

You mean the one who told me to "cough?"
/

763 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:23:43am

Drill, baby, drill won't solve this problem...



The US military has warned that surplus oil production capacity could disappear within two years and there could be serious shortages by 2015 with a significant economic and political impact.
764 jaunte  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:23:50am

re: #756 Shiplord Kirel


"good jobs for all!"


It's magic, all it takes is a demand and someone will make it so.

765 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:24:17am

Well, take care folks. The offspring must kick some soccer balls.

766 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:24:52am

My elementary school had "Mr. French"... dude was very sweet and old... smiled all the time.

Even when he'd have that stuff you sprinkled on vomit...

767 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:25:42am

re: #765 Oh no...Sand People!

Soccer? Meh.

768 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:27:18am

re: #766 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My elementary school had "Mr. French"... dude was very sweet and old... smiled all the time.

Even when he'd have that stuff you sprinkled on vomit...

My 5th grade teacher had a "reminder". A wooden stick he would whack your open hands with when you fucked up. And yes, it was a public skool.

769 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:29:08am

re: #768 Cannadian Club Akbar

My teachers'd beat the hell out of you. Then call you parents, who'd do the same.

There were times where neighbors were lined up ready to get into the action also. Kind of like that scene in Airplane...

770 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:30:43am

re: #769 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My teachers'd beat the hell out of you. Then call you parents, who'd do the same.

There were times where neighbors were lined up ready to get into the action also. Kind of like that scene in Airplane...

That was funny. Almost as funny as, "Miss, I speak jive." Heh

771 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:33:43am

Well, fuck.
[Link: articles.orlandosentinel.com...]

772 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:34:18am

re: #770 Cannadian Club Akbar

Youtube Video
773 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:35:47am

re: #772 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The guy with the wrench is teh funny.

774 RadicalModerate  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:39:38am

This is not the way I wanted to start my weekend.

Front page in the local paper with a story about what would be best described as criminal incompetence.

Fingerprint failure by Dallas County, Alabama sheriff's officials put innocent man in jail 4 months

A 30-year-old man mistaken for a Dallas County fugitive spent nearly four months in an Alabama jail for crimes he didn't commit because sheriff's officials did not make routine fingerprint checks.

Samuel David Ramirez Perez was arrested in a small southern Alabama town in November after a traffic stop revealed he shared the name of a man wanted in Dallas County on 1999 felony drug charges.

After his arrest, Perez repeatedly insisted he was not the man wanted in Texas and fought extradition. But sheriff's officials here and in Alabama didn't ask each other for fingerprints they had on file that would have set Perez free.

...

Alabama courts also failed to catch the mistake because Perez was not appointed a lawyer and never got an extradition hearing that he's entitled to under state law.

775 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:39:48am

Disaster in Stockholm! 'Aroused' rabbits reproduced in tennis club wreckage

Hundreds of well-bred rabbits took the opportunity to make new acquaintances and reproduce when a roof collapsed at Sweden's premier rabbit show in Nyköping in February.

The Local reported at the time that the Nyköping exhibition, 100 kilometres south of Stockholm, had attracted 1,648 rabbits and their owners to the vast indoor tennis complex.

When the roof collapsed in the wake of a spate of heavy snowfalls, many of the prize pets found their cages had opened and they were at liberty to roam as they pleased amid the debris.

Workers tasked with clearing the fallen roof soon found that the quality bunnies had not lain idle.

"They made new friends and they became a bit aroused by the incident. The builders told me it was a veritable circus in there," one rabbit breeder told public broadcaster SVT's local Sörmland affiliate.

With rabbits of all stripes and colours trapped in the wreckage the pairing frenzy has thrown up all manner of new combinations, as Dwarf Hotots nuzzled up to British Giants and Lionheads mounted Himalayans.

When the dust had settled and relieved owners returned home with their rescued rabbits, some 50 to 70 breeders found they were the beneficiaries of surprise litters, local newspaper Södermanlands Nyheter reports.

There go all those exclusive bunny pedigrees.....

776 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:40:13am

re: #755 Dark_Falcon

Depends on who you ask. I don't think what the former Soviet Union defined 'progress' as was actually progress, but Russia still holds May Day as a celebration of human advancement. As such, it is hated by the medieval monsters who set off that bomb.

They'd use any opportunity to set off a bomb in a large group.

777 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:40:27am

re: #770 Cannadian Club Akbar

That was funny. Almost as funny as, "Miss, I speak jive." Heh

"Shiiiiit." [subtitle: 'Golly']

778 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:40:45am

re: #771 Cannadian Club Akbar

Well, fuck.
[Link: articles.orlandosentinel.com...]

I love living in Florida (well, Miami is really like another country, compared to the rest of the state.) But it's shit like that that makes me feel like I'm living in some backwards ass, alternate reality 1950's deep south nightmare of a state.

779 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:40:59am

re: #756 Shiplord Kirel

I'd be disappointed if they didn't march.

780 Ericus58  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:41:42am

re: #771 Cannadian Club Akbar

Well, fuck.
[Link: articles.orlandosentinel.com...]

I just can't get onboard with that decision for several reasons.

781 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:41:57am

re: #757 Oh no...Sand People!

Just didn't know there were complete worldly factions that bought into it...

Misogyny.

782 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:42:00am

re: #775 Shiplord Kirel

Disaster in Stockholm! 'Aroused' rabbits reproduced in tennis club wreckage


There go all those exclusive bunny pedigrees...

This just in: Purebred show rabbits still hump like bunnies. ;)

783 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:43:02am

re: #769 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My teachers'd beat the hell out of you. Then call you parents, who'd do the same.

There were times where neighbors were lined up ready to get into the action also. Kind of like that scene in Airplane...

Takes a village.

784 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:43:21am

re: #782 Dark_Falcon

This just in: Purebred show rabbits still hump like bunnies. ;)

Dire consequences of uncontrolled bunny breeding:

Youtube Video
785 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:43:53am

re: #778 Sigma_x

I loved living in South Florida. Except for the I-95 NASCAR style driving.

786 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:44:08am

re: #771 Cannadian Club Akbar

Well, fuck.
[Link: articles.orlandosentinel.com...]

Very bigoted and foolish of them. Rubio will love this, alas.

787 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:44:36am

re: #771 Cannadian Club Akbar

Well, fuck.
[Link: articles.orlandosentinel.com...]

The already is a suit in Oklahoma, and it's asking for an injunction to keep the law from going into effect.

788 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:46:24am

re: #784 Shiplord Kirel

Night of the Lepus was a great movie...fantastic cinematography...then again, it was on at midnight and I was pretty stoned when I watched it.

789 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:47:35am

re: #787 MandyManners

The already is a suit in Oklahoma, and it's asking for an injunction to keep the law from going into effect.

I hope the injunction is granted. The OK state law is a disgrace.

790 prairiefire  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:47:39am

re: #771 Cannadian Club Akbar

Well, fuck.
[Link: articles.orlandosentinel.com...]

Sadistic paternalism. If a woman refuses to view the ultra sound because the pregnancy is due to rape, she must provide paperwork that proves she was raped.

791 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:48:45am

re: #789 Dark_Falcon

I hope the injunction is granted. The OK state law is a disgrace.

yep. the FL law isn't better. i'm embarrassed for my state...

792 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:51:24am

re: #790 prairiefire

Sadistic paternalism. If a woman refuses to view the ultra sound because the pregnancy is due to rape, she must provide paperwork that proves she was raped.

Quite Concur. It's a product of a mindset that has elevated opposing abortion over all other moral considerations. Both FL and OK's law are motivated by this monomania.

793 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:53:48am

re: #789 Dark_Falcon

I hope the injunction is granted. The OK state law is a disgrace.

I hope it's fast-tracked to the Supreme Court.

794 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:54:31am

re: #793 MandyManners

I hope it's fast-tracked to the Supreme Court.

Again Concur.

795 Daniel Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:54:51am

I'm off to meet my friend, and get downtown to the ANSWER march.
Have a great Saturday you all.

796 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:55:34am

That abortion bill is just another trick used by the GOP to get people to vote against their own economic interests. Simple as that. The republican party is a wholly-owned subsidiary of corporate America, and it's time we stop pretending that they're honest players in any debate in Washington.

It's a way to get some lower and middle-calls people who happen to have strict, Christian conservative values to vote GOP, even though voting GOP also means that their 401-K's will evaporate and their social security will be handed over to Wall St. for them to gamble with, too.

It's sickening.

797 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:56:25am

re: #796 Sigma_x

you're overboard again...

798 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:56:42am

re: #795 Rightwingconspirator

I'm off to meet my friend, and get downtown to the ANSWER march.
Have a great Saturday you all.

Give 'em Hell, RWC! And bring back some good pics.

Time for me to go as well. BBL

799 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:57:02am

Here is a great graphic showing what's happening on the sea floor where the rig collapsed.

From NOLA

800 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:57:46am

re: #795 Rightwingconspirator

I'm off to meet my friend, and get downtown to the ANSWER march.
Have a great Saturday you all.

I went to the May Day march @ McAurthur park a few years ago when the cops beat the living shit out of everyone, reporters and all.

Haven't been back since. Good luck today.

801 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:57:51am

re: #797 Aceofwhat?

you're overboard again...

It's the What's the Matter with Kansas argument again. Wrong when the book came out and still wrong now.

BBL for real this time.

802 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:58:53am

re: #801 Dark_Falcon

It's the What's the Matter with Kansas argument again. Wrong when the book came out and still wrong now.

BBL for real this time.

Yep.

Go do whatcha gotta do, friend.

803 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:01:08am

re: #796 Sigma_x

That abortion bill is just another trick used by the GOP to get people to vote against their own economic interests. Simple as that. The republican party is a wholly-owned subsidiary of corporate America, and it's time we stop pretending that they're honest players in any debate in Washington.

It's a way to get some lower and middle-calls people who happen to have strict, Christian conservative values to vote GOP, even though voting GOP also means that their 401-K's will evaporate and their social security will be handed over to Wall St. for them to gamble with, too.

It's sickening.

And this message is brought to you by Sigma_x, who was just recently bragging about making over 400,000 dollars from corporate America in the stock market.

Congratulations... that's sickening.

804 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:01:53am

re: #803 Walter L. Newton

And this message is brought to you by Sigma_x, who was just recently bragging about making over 400,000 dollars from corporate America in the stock market.

Congratulations... that's sickening.

How, exactly, is that sickening? I don't make laws, dude.

805 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:02:09am

So i'm puttering around this morning, doing some dishes, letting the kids play in the master bathtub, etc.

There's a History Channel show on in the background called "That's Impossible"

Has anyone seen this before? It's like one huge ZOMG - they're exploring HAARP, chemtrails, directed lightning...and interviewing fringe scientists to give it that dramatic veneer of credibility...

It's fun as entertainment - until I remember the thousands of crazy people who really believe this stuff. Nooot sure that the blessing of the History channel is going to help them back to reality...sigh/

806 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:02:09am

I will bet my last dollar the 24 hour news cycle producers are getting hard ons with this oil rig disaster.

807 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:03:31am

And I'm not defending democrats, either. They're as in the pockets of corporate lobbyists as any republican. But at least they're not pushing through absurd laws such as the ones you see republicans doing - such as the immigration bill in AZ and now this abortion bill in FL.

I don't see how any sensible republican can defend what's going on with their party right now.

808 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:04:36am

re: #804 Sigma_x

How, exactly, is that sickening? I don't make laws, dude.

You figure it out. You're as much part of the system as the "republican party is a wholly-owned subsidiary of corporate America", you brag about swimming in the same pool, and now you're going to try to divorce yourself from it. Bullshit.

809 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:05:21am

re: #807 Sigma_x

And I'm not defending democrats, either. They're as in the pockets of corporate lobbyists as any republican. But at least they're not pushing through absurd laws such as the ones you see republicans doing - such as the immigration bill in AZ and now this abortion bill in FL.

I don't see how any sensible republican can defend what's going on with their party right now.

no, that's not what you said. you said "The republican party is a wholly-owned subsidiary of corporate America, and it's time we stop pretending that they're honest players in any debate in Washington."

that's different than saying these abortion bills are crap.

or do you think the hyperbole was a bit much?

810 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:06:19am

re: #795 Rightwingconspirator

I'm off to meet my friend, and get downtown to the ANSWER march.
Have a great Saturday you all.

"Have fun stormin' the castle!
"Think it'll work?"
"It'd take a miracle."
-The Miracle Maxs.

811 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:06:22am

re: #807 Sigma_x

And I'm not defending democrats, either. They're as in the pockets of corporate lobbyists as any republican. But at least they're not pushing through absurd laws such as the ones you see republicans doing - such as the immigration bill in AZ and now this abortion bill in FL.

I don't see how any sensible republican can defend what's going on with their party right now.

I don't see how anyone who plays with the big boys like you do, can sit back on your high-ass haunches and criticize the exact people that is lining your pocket with profits.

812 swamprat  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:06:23am

re: #796 Sigma_x


Best May-Day comment ever, Comrade!

813 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:06:47am

re: #809 Aceofwhat?

no, that's not what you said. you said "The republican party is a wholly-owned subsidiary of corporate America, and it's time we stop pretending that they're honest players in any debate in Washington."

that's different than saying these abortion bills are crap.

or do you think the hyperbole was a bit much?

He must of lost some money this week.

814 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:07:23am

re: #808 Walter L. Newton

You figure it out. You're as much part of the system as the "republican party is a wholly-owned subsidiary of corporate America", you brag about swimming in the same pool, and now you're going to try to divorce yourself from it. Bullshit.

yep. either bag on "corporate america" from outside of it, or accept it on at least some level while playing in it, but homey's acting like a drug dealer who thinks that drugs are bad.

815 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:07:47am

re: #809 Aceofwhat?

no, that's not what you said. you said "The republican party is a wholly-owned subsidiary of corporate America, and it's time we stop pretending that they're honest players in any debate in Washington."

that's different than saying these abortion bills are crap.

or do you think the hyperbole was a bit much?

He does have a point (good morning Ace, by the way)...Abortion bills are red meat for the fundies who will ignore just about any other issue on the ballot if they can cast a vote that makes them feel like they're protecting fetuses.

816 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:08:21am

Still don't see anybody coming up with any sensible arguments to the actual point I was making. Just a bunch of insults and some absurd notion that I can't say shit by virtue or what I do for a living.

Nonsense, as usual.

817 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:08:24am

re: #810 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Have fun stormin' the castle!
"Think it'll work?"
"It'd take a miracle."
-The Miracle Maxs.

I'm not a witch, i'm your wife! But after what i just heard, i'm not even sure i want to be that anymore!

818 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:09:05am

re: #815 darthstar

He does have a point (good morning Ace, by the way)...Abortion bills are red meat for the fundies who will ignore just about any other issue on the ballot if they can cast a vote that makes them feel like they're protecting fetuses.

Thank you - you said it better than I did.

819 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:10:00am

re: #816 Sigma_x

Still don't see anybody coming up with any sensible arguments to the actual point I was making. Just a bunch of insults and some absurd notion that I can't say shit by virtue or what I do for a living.

Nonsense, as usual.

Hypocrites rarely see the forest for the trees.

820 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:10:21am

re: #815 darthstar

He does have a point (good morning Ace, by the way)...Abortion bills are red meat for the fundies who will ignore just about any other issue on the ballot if they can cast a vote that makes them feel like they're protecting fetuses.

Look at how sensibly you said it, as opposed to "The republican party is a wholly-owned subsidiary of corporate America, and it's time we stop pretending that they're honest players in any debate in Washington."

Really? A wholly-owned subsidiary of corporate america? Why not throw the chemtrails on top and call it a honky burrito while we're at it?

You made a sensible statement. I like sensible statements, even when i disagree, because there's actually something to engage.

(and good morning!)

821 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:11:52am

re: #820 Aceofwhat?

honky burrito

Nomination for rotating title!!!

822 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:12:08am

re: #819 Walter L. Newton

Hypocrites rarely see the forest for the trees.

Just a bunch of ridiculous nonsense, the shit that comes out of you. You make no point. You can't defend the republicans, and you know it. So you resort to personal attacks.

"Can't see the forest..." "I'm not gonna explain it to you..." Just vague "I'm right and you're wrong" bullshit that makes sense to no one except you.

823 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:12:09am

re: #818 Sigma_x

Thank you - you said it better than I did.

Which is all i said. I said you went overboard. Darthstar is a good dude, and i say that as someone who doesn't share his political viewpoint on a lot of things. He's a good example.

824 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:13:03am

re: #816 Sigma_x

Still don't see anybody coming up with any sensible arguments to the actual point I was making. Just a bunch of insults and some absurd notion that I can't say shit by virtue or what I do for a living.

Nonsense, as usual.

You are not allowed to be rich from the Market and criticize the GOP..Cause they like control Wall Street..Don't you know that?
The Politics of money and viewpoints....Now if you were poor and living on the Gov't Dole you could have an opinion...Send me that 400k bitch!
LOL

825 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:13:35am

re: #823 Aceofwhat?

Which is all i said. I said you went overboard. Darthstar is a good dude, and i say that as someone who doesn't share his political viewpoint on a lot of things. He's a good example.


I'm also a honky burrito. I loves me a good burrito...in fact, I think I may stop at the local taqueria when I take the dogs to the beach in an hour.

826 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:13:46am

re: #815 darthstar

There are single issue voters on both sides of the spectrum.

I have to go to work, y'all have fun.

827 austin_blue  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:14:03am

Ah! A cup of coffee, the NYT Crossword, and my Dear Lizards at LGF. Good morning all!

828 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:14:16am

re: #824 HoosierHoops

You are not allowed to be rich from the Market and criticize the GOP..Cause they like control Wall Street..Don't you know that?
The Politics of money and viewpoints...Now if you were poor and living on the Gov't Dole you could have an opinion...Send me that 400k bitch!
LOL

Ha. You're right, dude. If I were poor and living on food stamps, I couldn't say anything either, 'cause then I'd be a free-loader that was "biting the hand that feeds me."

You can't win either way with them.

829 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:14:31am

re: #826 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

There are single issue voters on both sides of the spectrum.

I have to go to work, y'all have fun.

True dat. But the voters on MY side of the issues aren't fucked in the head. :)

830 swamprat  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:14:35am

Is taking my Capitalistic ass outside on this glorious MayDay, to view American decadence, and get breakfast.

831 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:15:14am

re: #829 darthstar

'Cause on your side, their fuckin' heads are empty.

832 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:15:21am

re: #830 swamprat

Is taking my Capitalistic ass outside on this glorious MayDay, to view American decadence, and get breakfast.

Be careful you don't make too money. Obama doesn't like that, when you make more money than he thinks is enough for one person!

833 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:15:39am

re: #825 darthstar

I'm also a honky burrito. I loves me a good burrito...in fact, I think I may stop at the local taqueria when I take the dogs to the beach in an hour.

I miss Chicago burritos. I'm sure that most of the folks cooking them weren't in the country "legally". But i patronized their wares anyway...just good people making huuuge burritos...my kind of people.

834 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:16:08am

re: #833 Aceofwhat?

A burrito the size of your head!

835 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:16:22am

re: #831 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

'Cause on your side, their fuckin' heads are empty.

RRROWWR!

836 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:16:28am

And, sorry, but the republican party is a "wholly-owned subsidiary of corporate America."

So are the democrats, for that matter. But at least I can sleep at night after I pull the lever for them in the voting booth.

837 swamprat  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:16:53am

re: #832 Athens Runaway

I shall try to not make so much as to attract attention.

838 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:17:09am

re: #834 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

A burrito the size of your head!

i swear it was still in my stomach when i woke up...but it was glorious...

839 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:17:21am

re: #833 Aceofwhat?

I miss Chicago burritos. I'm sure that most of the folks cooking them weren't in the country "legally". But i patronized their wares anyway...just good people making huuuge burritos...my kind of people.

There is this little bar in St. Helena that sells Mexican food from the Kitchen...
Just the best in the whole world

840 RadicalModerate  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:17:52am

Matthew Continetti over at The Weekly Standard appears to have configured his tinfoil hat to the "Alternate/Bizarro Universe" setting:

When bipartisan debate fails, Dems fall back on knuckle-sandwich approach to politics

The omens are everywhere. Iran is close to obtaining nuclear weapons. The eurozone is in crisis. The U.S. unemployment rate is near 10 percent. America’s social insurance programs threaten to bankrupt the country. And—most unusual—the Washington Nationals are above .500.

But rest easy. None of this is distracting the Obama administration and congressional Democrats from their fulltime occupation: demonizing the political opposition.

841 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:17:59am

re: #836 Sigma_x

And, sorry, but the republican party is a "wholly-owned subsidiary of corporate America."

So are the democrats, for that matter. But at least I can sleep at night after I pull the lever for them in the voting booth.

Go on. Tell me about the Rothschilds now...

842 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:18:09am

re: #837 swamprat

I shall try to not make so much as to attract attention.

Or at least make significant campaign donations after you make said unproportional amounts of evil money

843 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:18:29am

re: #839 HoosierHoops

There is this little bar in St. Helena that sells Mexican food from the Kitchen...
Just the best in the whole world

Saw a dude in Atlanta selling flan off of the trunk of his car. Just plates of flan on his trunk lid.

I passed.

844 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:19:11am

re: #841 Aceofwhat?

Go on. Tell me about the Rothschilds now...

Luap Nor?

845 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:19:20am

re: #833 Aceofwhat?

I miss Chicago burritos. I'm sure that most of the folks cooking them weren't in the country "legally". But i patronized their wares anyway...just good people making huuuge burritos...my kind of people.

I never concern myself with whether someone is in the country legally or not. The guys who stand outside the "trading post" down the road from where I live waiting for day work? They're trying to feed their families...that's good enough for me. The people working at a taqueria or a dim sum restaurant? Same thing.

846 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:19:27am

re: #843 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Saw a dude in Atlanta selling flan off of the trunk of his car. Just plates of flan on his trunk lid.

I passed.

Is trunk lid flan anything like beer can chicken?
/

847 bratwurst  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:20:23am

re: #843 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Saw a dude in Atlanta selling flan off of the trunk of his car. Just plates of flan on his trunk lid.

I passed.

Mmmmmmm.....illicit flan.

848 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:20:32am

Good Morning and Happy Saturday Everyone! Now that RWC is on his way to downtown LA for the rally I can jump in. Hope everyone is well this gorgeous morning?

849 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:20:51am

re: #845 darthstar

I never concern myself with whether someone is in the country legally or not. The guys who stand outside the "trading post" down the road from where I live waiting for day work? They're trying to feed their families...that's good enough for me. The people working at a taqueria or a dim sum restaurant? Same thing.

Exactly. Good, hardworking immigrants made this country what it is, and i can't stand the fact that we've made it harder to stick to the blueprint.

850 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:21:01am

re: #841 Aceofwhat?

Go on. Tell me about the Rothschilds now...

You see, that there is a perfect example of you really making no point whatsoever. Little bon mots that I suppose could be construed as witty, if you think about it long enough.

But there's no meat to any of your arguments. You have none to make. You just go after the way in which I said it, as usual.

Once - just once - I would love to hear you make a coherent, compelling argument in defense of the GOP.

851 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:21:18am

re: #848 Dragon_Lady

Good Morning and Happy Saturday Everyone! Now that RWC is on his way to downtown LA for the rally I can jump in. Hope everyone is well this gorgeous morning?

I'm gorgeous on this well morning. Wait, i mean...yes. What you said-

852 austin_blue  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:21:44am

re: #839 HoosierHoops

There is this little bar in St. Helena that sells Mexican food from the Kitchen...
Just the best in the whole world

I about fell over when I saw this joint in Edinburgh last month:

[Link: www.panchovillas.co.uk...]

A burrito plate was 10 pounds, or $15.

For that, you can order most *menus* in Austin...

853 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:22:19am

re: #851 Aceofwhat?

I'm gorgeous on this well morning. Wait, i mean...yes. What you said-

Nicely said! LOL!

854 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:23:07am

re: #841 Aceofwhat?

Go on. Tell me about the Rothschilds now...

They were a kind of chocolate bar in the 70s.

855 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:24:07am

re: #853 Dragon_Lady

Nicely said! LOL!

Hi You!
Big storms on the way here...ugly weekend

856 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:24:20am

re: #850 Sigma_x

You see, that there is a perfect example of you really making no point whatsoever. Little bon mots that I suppose could be construed as witty, if you think about it long enough.

But there's no meat to any of your arguments. You have none to make. You just go after the way in which I said it, as usual.

Once - just once - I would love to hear you make a coherent, compelling argument in defense of the GOP.

You misunderstand how this works. First you have to say something which contains substance. It's like rock climbing...if the rock won't hold together, you can't get a grip on it.

Statements like "wholly owned subsidiary of corporate america" are like chemtrails. The best i can conjure up is a little peppered sarcasm, because there's nothing to work with.

Feel free to say something more substantive if you want to have an actual debate.

857 RadicalModerate  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:25:06am

re: #834 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

A burrito the size of your head!

There's a franchise-type place in Dallas that has insanely huge burritos - the "monster" size they sell uses TWO 14" tortilla shells overlapped and stuffed to overflowing with either grilled chicken or steak (and your choice of other condiments)

858 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:25:20am

re: #822 Sigma_x

Just a bunch of ridiculous nonsense, the shit that comes out of you. You make no point. You can't defend the republicans, and you know it. So you resort to personal attacks.

"Can't see the forest..." "I'm not gonna explain it to you..." Just vague "I'm right and you're wrong" bullshit that makes sense to no one except you.

Yawn.

859 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:26:02am

re: #856 Aceofwhat?

You misunderstand how this works. First you have to say something which contains substance. It's like rock climbing...if the rock won't hold together, you can't get a grip on it.

Statements like "wholly owned subsidiary of corporate america" are like chemtrails. The best i can conjure up is a little peppered sarcasm, because there's nothing to work with.

Feel free to say something more substantive if you want to have an actual debate.

Wow, that's a lot of metaphors in one post.

860 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:26:06am

From the Moonie Times: Is Obama fomenting a race war?

For Mr. Obama in the 2010 election, whites no longer matter - especially white Christian males.

In recent memory, no president has so deliberately and publicly sought to pit racial and gender groups against each other. The president is not simply the titular head of a party or the leader of government. He is the head of state and embodies the collective will of the American people. He is the president of all Americans - not just certain segments of his electoral coalition. Mr. Obama's rhetoric is reckless. It is fostering civil strife and racial animosity.

861 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:26:28am

re: #859 Sigma_x

Wow, that's a lot of metaphors in one post.

i do what i can...

862 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:26:29am

re: #857 RadicalModerate

There's a franchise-type place in Dallas that has insanely huge burritos - the "monster" size they sell uses TWO 14" tortilla shells overlapped and stuffed to overflowing with either grilled chicken or steak (and your choice of other condiments)

Chippolte Grill?

863 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:26:42am

Alright, how about this - I was watching O'Reily the other day (ironic how he's become one of the more reasoned voices on the right,) and he was complaining about the lack of conservative comedians on TV and in the movies, implying that it was an example of media bias, and that the powers that be in Hollywood have it out for conservatives so they don't give equal time to right-wing comedians.

Which got me to thinking - are there any funny conservative comedians? I mean, any at all? 'Cause I, for the life of me, can't think of one.

There's Dennis Miller. But he was a lefty back in the day, and swung right after 9-11, realized the line was shorter for that angle, and was given a chance. He failed.

But is it really a left-wing hollywood plot to keep right-wing comedians from view? Or is it just that there's a lack of them?

864 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:27:37am

re: #860 Killgore Trout

From the Moonie Times: Is Obama fomenting a race war?

idiots

865 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:28:10am

Wikipedia: United States journalism scandals

This lists 40 high-profile journalism scandals.
LGF was a major force in exposing two of these, the Killian Documents scandal, and the Adnan Hajj "fauxtography" episode. I think that's quite a record considering that the list goes all the way back to 1835.

866 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:28:38am

re: #855 HoosierHoops

Hi You!
Big storms on the way here...ugly weekend

Bummer! Its a beautiful Saturday here, the sun is shinning and the sky is a brilliant blue with some high cumulus clouds flouting about like fluffy cotton balls. My four footed fur balls have already had their morning outing and I worked on my roses this morning enjoying the calm quiet of our courtyard.

867 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:28:38am

re: #863 Sigma_x

Alright, how about this - I was watching O'Reily the other day (ironic how he's become one of the more reasoned voices on the right,) and he was complaining about the lack of conservative comedians on TV and in the movies, implying that it was an example of media bias, and that the powers that be in Hollywood have it out for conservatives so they don't give equal time to right-wing comedians.

Which got me to thinking - are there any funny conservative comedians? I mean, any at all? 'Cause I, for the life of me, can't think of one.

There's Dennis Miller. But he was a lefty back in the day, and swung right after 9-11, realized the line was shorter for that angle, and was given a chance. He failed.

But is it really a left-wing hollywood plot to keep right-wing comedians from view? Or is it just that there's a lack of them?

You're exactly right. Conservatives are boring, humorless morons. Like a cross between a zombie and a comic-convention nerd.

God I hate those conservatives.

/

868 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:28:40am

I just talked to my cousin in West Tennessee. It is a giant flood. High winds. Tornadoes dipping down. Please keep all those folks in your thoughts and prayers.

869 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:28:55am

re: #863 Sigma_x

Alright, how about this - I was watching O'Reily the other day (ironic how he's become one of the more reasoned voices on the right,) and he was complaining about the lack of conservative comedians on TV and in the movies, implying that it was an example of media bias, and that the powers that be in Hollywood have it out for conservatives so they don't give equal time to right-wing comedians.

Which got me to thinking - are there any funny conservative comedians? I mean, any at all? 'Cause I, for the life of me, can't think of one.

There's Dennis Miller. But he was a lefty back in the day, and swung right after 9-11, realized the line was shorter for that angle, and was given a chance. He failed.

But is it really a left-wing hollywood plot to keep right-wing comedians from view? Or is it just that there's a lack of them?

There is a lack of conservative comedians... mainly due to a lack of actual market for conservative comedians... just like there is not much market for liberal talk radio.

870 _RememberTonyC  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:28:57am

Do you think it would be "terrorism" if the CIA or some other organization were able to succesfully plan and execute a series of "work accidents" at key iranian nuke locations?

871 swamprat  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:29:00am

To the tune of "particle man"

Partisanman, partisanman
Doin' his best to be an objective man
maybe his logic just will not stand
Is he a hypocrite? I can't say
he just wants the corporations to pay


him
872 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:29:10am

re: #863 Sigma_x

I met Dennis Miller Easter Night...Dude is short.. Tom Cruise short...

873 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:29:34am

re: #857 RadicalModerate

I find a regular sized burrito with a single 14" tortilla is plenty. My favorite place is La Corneta in San Francisco. They have a tofu burrito which is fantastic, their prawn burritos (or steak and prawn) are awesome, and they even do a Chile Rellano burrito...yes, a battered and fried pepper full of cheese inside a burrito...that's the shit right there. A must have.

874 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:30:16am

re: #863 Sigma_x

Alright, how about this - I was watching O'Reily the other day (ironic how he's become one of the more reasoned voices on the right,) and he was complaining about the lack of conservative comedians on TV and in the movies, implying that it was an example of media bias, and that the powers that be in Hollywood have it out for conservatives so they don't give equal time to right-wing comedians.

Which got me to thinking - are there any funny conservative comedians? I mean, any at all? 'Cause I, for the life of me, can't think of one.

There's Dennis Miller. But he was a lefty back in the day, and swung right after 9-11, realized the line was shorter for that angle, and was given a chance. He failed.

But is it really a left-wing hollywood plot to keep right-wing comedians from view? Or is it just that there's a lack of them?

That's a good question. I'm 100% sure that it's not a plot, just as it isn't a plot to keep left-wing radio down.

My best quick guess is that entertainers in general tend to lean leftward, so the lack of righty comedians isn't any different than the lack of righty actors.

I'm sure some of the blue collar comedy guys lean right...so there's an easy example for O'Rielly...

875 RadicalModerate  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:30:44am

re: #862 Cannadian Club Akbar

Chippolte Grill?

Actually, I'm referring to Freebirds.

http://www.freebirds.com

876 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:31:01am

re: #874 Aceofwhat?

G Conservative MTA

877 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:31:07am

re: #868 MandyManners

I just talked to my cousin in West Tennessee. It is a giant flood. High winds. Tornadoes dipping down. Please keep all those folks in your thoughts and prayers.

Oh maaannn that just sucks the big one! I had heard something like that on the news this morning. My prayers are on the wing as I type, uh speak, uh type.

878 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:31:45am

re: #873 darthstar

I find a regular sized burrito with a single 14" tortilla is plenty. My favorite place is La Corneta in San Francisco. They have a tofu burrito which is fantastic, their prawn burritos (or steak and prawn) are awesome, and they even do a Chile Rellano burrito...yes, a battered and fried pepper full of cheese inside a burrito...that's the shit right there. A must have.

I love Tommy's Joint in the City...Great food

879 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:31:54am

re: #865 Shiplord Kirel

Wikipedia: United States journalism scandals

This lists 40 high-profile journalism scandals.
LGF was a major force in exposing two of these, the Killian Documents scandal, and the Adnan Hajj "fauxtography" episode. I think that's quite a record considering that the list goes all the way back to 1835.

indeed!

880 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:32:02am

I think every single conservative who's been saying Drill, Baby, Drill over the last year or so should be frogged-marched down to Louisiana to help with the clean up, is what I think.

Speaking of hypocrites.

881 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:32:04am

re: #872 HoosierHoops

I met Dennis Miller Easter Night...Dude is short.. Tom Cruise short...

Napoleon complex you think?

882 zora  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:33:22am

re: #863 Sigma_x

i would call the blue collar comedy tour right right wing and they made a shit-load of money collectively and individually.

883 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:33:30am

re: #880 Sigma_x

I think every single conservative who's been saying Drill, Baby, Drill over the last year or so should be frogged-marched down to Louisiana to help with the clean up, is what I think.

Speaking of hypocrites.

does that include Obama, who approved additional offshore drilling?

(speaking of blanket statements)

884 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:33:59am

re: #864 Aceofwhat?

idiots

It wouldn't be so ban if this was an isolated idiot. He has lots of company. Sigh.

885 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:34:10am

re: #883 Aceofwhat?

does that include Obama, who approved additional offshore drilling?

(speaking of blanket statements)

He said "conservatives," not "people that I agree with"

886 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:34:45am

re: #880 Sigma_x

I think every single conservative who's been saying Drill, Baby, Drill over the last year or so should be frogged-marched down to Louisiana to help with the clean up, is what I think.

Speaking of hypocrites.

Really... EVERY conservative who is supportive of off-shore drilling is responsible for the screw up of a company who these people have no control over?

Hyperbole... without any substance.

887 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:35:09am

Well! CNN is on the rally track this morning! There are rally's happin all over the country! I just hear that they're expecting over 100,000 people marching in downtown today! I hope RWC is careful, I would really be upset if he got hurt!

888 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:35:50am

re: #881 Dragon_Lady

Napoleon complex you think?

I was this close to saying something like, ' Say something funny..Funny man'
But I was very respectful..
/OK he had a big body guard with him at the basketball game..

889 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:35:53am

re: #884 Killgore Trout

It wouldn't be so ban if this was an isolated idiot. He has lots of company. Sigh.

yep. i sigh about thrice daily...

890 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:36:08am

re: #884 Killgore Trout

It wouldn't be so ban if this was an isolated idiot. He has lots of company. Sigh.

Obama could stop the race war he's fomenting if he'd just stop being black.
/ to people who can think for themselves
!/ to wingnuts and teabaggers

891 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:36:50am

re: #887 Dragon_Lady

Well! CNN is on the rally track this morning! There are rally's happin all over the country! I just hear that they're expecting over 100,000 people marching in downtown today! I hope RWC is careful, I would really be upset if he got hurt!

May Day rallies happen across the country every year, at a predictable interval. Why this one is so uber-special and OMGZ GRASSROOTS1!!!, I can't begin to fathom.

892 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:37:04am

re: #888 HoosierHoops

I was this close to saying something like, ' Say something funny..Funny man'
But I was very respectful..
/OK he had a big body guard with him at the basketball game..

I knew you were smart! Never a good idea to piss off a body guard.

893 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:37:13am

re: #885 Athens Runaway

He said "conservatives," not "people that I agree with"

oh, shoot - you're right. silly me.

894 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:38:30am

re: #887 Dragon_Lady

Well! CNN is on the rally track this morning! There are rally's happin all over the country! I just hear that they're expecting over 100,000 people marching in downtown today! I hope RWC is careful, I would really be upset if he got hurt!

He'll be fine. May 1 is a traditional day for immigration rallies. Turnout might be a little higher given the Arizona clusterfuck, but we're talking about immigrant familes here rallying for their rights...not gun-toting teabaggers getting their rocks off on manufactured rage.

895 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:38:34am

re: #893 Aceofwhat?

oh, shoot - you're right. silly me.

It's ok. You were expecting logical consistency out of him.

896 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:38:36am

Can't argue any actual point. Y'all just go after the way I say it.

The lies with regard to the environmental safety of offshore drilling that have been propagated by the right over the last year or so have now been shown to be exactly that - lies.

And so now here we are with an environmental disaster of biblical proportions, and all you hear out of the right on the matter is... crickets.

897 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:38:57am

re: #860 Killgore Trout

From the Moonie Times: Is Obama fomenting a race war?

Unification Church will put Washington Times up for sale

Solomon found another group of investors and approached the Times late last year about buying the paper, a senior Times official said. The offer was rejected as insufficient; Preston Moon told associates he would likely accept a bid between $10 million and $15 million, the official said. A Unification Church spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.

I'll bet they would take less. Any rich Lizards want to kick in?

898 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:39:21am

re: #891 Athens Runaway

May Day rallies happen across the country every year, at a predictable interval. Why this one is so uber-special and OMGZ GRASSROOTS1!!!, I can't begin to fathom.

Hi Athens, nice to meet you! In case you didn't know it RWC is my Hubby Bubby. I have a bad habit of worrying when he goes to do pics of something like this, don't mind me.

899 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:40:30am

re: #896 Sigma_x

Can't argue any actual point. Y'all just go after the way I say it.

The lies with regard to the environmental safety of offshore drilling that have been propagated by the right over the last year or so have now been shown to be exactly that - lies.

And so now here we are with an environmental disaster of biblical proportions, and all you hear out of the right on the matter is... crickets.

try not being vapid. there was no point to be argued.

900 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:40:59am

re: #896 Sigma_x

Can't argue any actual point. Y'all just go after the way I say it.

The lies with regard to the environmental safety of offshore drilling that have been propagated by the right over the last year or so have now been shown to be exactly that - lies.

And so now here we are with an environmental disaster of biblical proportions, and all you hear out of the right on the matter is... crickets.

When we see a comment from you that is not painted with a broad brush and simply an exercise in sophomoric hyperbole, then possibly you will get a logical and critically thought out response...

Until then...

901 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:41:15am

re: #893 Aceofwhat?

oh, shoot - you're right. silly me.

And Obama is heading to Louisiana, tomorrow, to see for himself what's going on. Not that he'll grab a shovel and start walking the shoreline scooping up oily goop...that would be dismissed as a photo-op and an attack on America.

902 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:41:29am

re: #885 Athens Runaway

He said "conservatives," not "people that I agree with"

And I didn't agree with Obama at all when he approved further offshore drilling. I was/am extremely disappointed with it, to tell you the truth.

But I suppose that's too much for you to process; the fact that someone could disagree with Obama on several key points, and still vote for him over just about anyone the right could come up with.

903 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:41:48am

re: #891 Athens Runaway

May Day rallies happen across the country every year, at a predictable interval. Why this one is so uber-special and OMGZ GRASSROOTS1!!!, I can't begin to fathom.

Feelings are running a little high just now. While I don't expect we'll see much in the way of excitement around the tired old retread-reds (though they do seem to enjoy themselves in Europe), certain other constituencies seem rather agitated lately. Something about Arizona, as I seem to recall having heard.

904 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:42:13am

re: #898 Dragon_Lady

Hi Athens, nice to meet you! In case you didn't know it RWC is my Hubby Bubby. I have a bad habit of worrying when he goes to do pics of something like this, don't mind me.

Hey!

No, I didn't know that, and I didn't mean to sound like I was diminishing your concern.

It's nice to meet you. Hopefully the comradeskis at the May Day rally will treat your HB well, and won't root him out as a Lizardoid spy!

905 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:42:22am

re: #894 darthstar

He'll be fine. May 1 is a traditional day for immigration rallies. Turnout might be a little higher given the Arizona clusterfuck, but we're talking about immigrant familes here rallying for their rights...not gun-toting teabaggers getting their rocks off on manufactured rage.

Yeah, I know he's a big boy and can take care of himself, not to mention a black-belt, but I can't help it. I'm a worry wart at heart.

906 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:43:08am

re: #902 Sigma_x

And I didn't agree with Obama at all when he approved further offshore drilling. I was/am extremely disappointed with it, to tell you the truth.

But I suppose that's too much for you to process; the fact that someone could disagree with Obama on several key points, and still vote for him over just about anyone the right could come up with.

And how many days was it until President Obama offered any input and help from the Federal Government for this disaster of "biblical proportions." A week... more... do you know?

907 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:43:24am

re: #902 Sigma_x

But I suppose that's too much for you to process; the fact that someone could disagree with Obama on several key points, and still vote for him over just about anyone the right could come up with.

HERP DERP I IS STOOPID, SO SAYS SIGMA

908 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:44:00am

re: #901 darthstar

And Obama is heading to Louisiana, tomorrow, to see for himself what's going on. Not that he'll grab a shovel and start walking the shoreline scooping up oily goop...that would be dismissed as a photo-op and an attack on America.

This isn't his fault or any other politician's fault, and i can't stand it when people use disasters like this in an attempt to score cheap political points.

909 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:44:32am

re: #902 Sigma_x

And I didn't agree with Obama at all when he approved further offshore drilling. I was/am extremely disappointed with it, to tell you the truth.

But I suppose that's too much for you to process; the fact that someone could disagree with Obama on several key points, and still vote for him over just about anyone the right could come up with.


FTFY...the first step in ending a flame war is to stop fanning. Your last sentence negates any understanding you might have gotten from your first.

Obama pissed me off too when he conceded on starting off-shore drilling, but it was a political move, and he's the president, so he's going to have to make political decisions from time to time that we all don't agree with.

910 Renaissance_Man  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:44:33am

re: #896 Sigma_x

Can't argue any actual point. Y'all just go after the way I say it.

The lies with regard to the environmental safety of offshore drilling that have been propagated by the right over the last year or so have now been shown to be exactly that - lies.

And so now here we are with an environmental disaster of biblical proportions, and all you hear out of the right on the matter is... crickets.

Well, that's not entirely true. You're also hearing how environmentalists did it as part of a plot so Obama could send SWAT teams to take over oil companies and spread tyranny.

However, to your first point, the reason you feel picked on is because your opening broadsides are not only accusatory, but also hyperbolic and without nuance. So you get a twofer where people not only get defensive, but also have an easy target to shoot back at, because hyperbolic sweeping generalisations are sitting ducks.

911 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:44:43am

re: #904 Athens Runaway

Hey!

No, I didn't know that, and I didn't mean to sound like I was diminishing your concern.

It's nice to meet you. Hopefully the comradeskis at the May Day rally will treat your HB well, and won't root him out as a Lizardoid spy!

No worries I didn't think you were, I just know that I haven't been on line in a while so I wanted to let you know why I'm being such a worry wart.

912 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:44:59am

re: #902 Sigma_x

And I didn't agree with Obama at all when he approved further offshore drilling. I was/am extremely disappointed with it, to tell you the truth.

But I suppose that's too much for you to process; the fact that someone could disagree with Obama on several key points, and still vote for him over just about anyone the right could come up with.

No, what i can't process is why you only want to frog-march some of the people who supported offshore drilling. Seems that you made an artificial distinction there. Care to elaborate?

913 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:45:17am

re: #905 Dragon_Lady

Yeah, I know he's a big boy and can take care of himself, not to mention a black-belt, but I can't help it. I'm a worry wart at heart.

If he's a black-belt, then he's been trained to avoid conflict. He's just going to check out the rally, right? He's not going down there to pick a fight with anyone.

914 austin_blue  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:45:35am

re: #867 Athens Runaway

You're exactly right. Conservatives are boring, humorless morons. Like a cross between a zombie and a comic-convention nerd.

God I hate those conservatives.

/

How can you make jokes when the Prez is fomenting a race war?

915 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:46:18am

I'm keeping my ears open for news of any doings here in the Lone Star State re: immigration rallies.

Our Governor, Rick Perry, he of the fabulous hair, has more or less shot down the idea of a similar proposal for Texas. Given how shrewd an operator the man is, he must know a thing or two that suggests to him that the idea won't go over well here.

Of course, Texas is different. Yes, we've got an immigration problem, but then again, the history of this place is such that the history of Texas is inseparable from the history of Mexico. My new GHQ is in a town named in honor of the Mexican Governor of this district, who is also a hero of the War of Independence and was a long-serving and highly respected military commander and political leader in the early days of the Republic. I think there's enough shared history that Texas can more or less avoid a lot of the unpleasantness that other states might inflict on themselves over this whole matter.

916 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:46:49am

re: #914 austin_blue

How can you make jokes when the Prez is fomenting a race war?

A race war? Is that when NASCAR and Formula One compete for ratings?

917 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:47:01am

re: #914 austin_blue

How can you make jokes when the Prez is fomenting a race war?

He's fomenting the Zomby Apockalese.

918 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:48:14am

re: #897 Shiplord Kirel

I'll bet they would take less. Any rich Lizards want to kick in?

Interesting. I saw rumors about the yesterday. I wonder who will end up buying it.

919 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:48:20am

re: #917 Walter L. Newton

He's fomenting the Zomby Apockalese.

I prefer to call it immanentizing the eschaton.

Sounds better on the business card.

920 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:48:32am

The punt-dents are arguing again! Lord I hate punt-dents! I have yet to hear one say anything worth listening to!

921 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:48:44am

re: #919 Athens Runaway

I prefer to call it immanentizing the eschaton.

Sounds better on the business card.

Can you fit that on a business card?

922 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:49:11am

re: #916 Athens Runaway

A race war? Is that when NASCAR and Formula One compete for ratings?

Ohhh, very good! I'll have to remember that one!

923 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:49:16am

re: #921 Walter L. Newton

Can you fit that on a business card?

Both sides; always print on both sides.

924 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:49:57am

re: #910 Renaissance_Man

Well, that's not entirely true. You're also hearing how environmentalists did it as part of a plot so Obama could send SWAT teams to take over oil companies and spread tyranny.

However, to your first point, the reason you feel picked on is because your opening broadsides are not only accusatory, but also hyperbolic and without nuance. So you get a twofer where people not only get defensive, but also have an easy target to shoot back at, because hyperbolic sweeping generalisations are sitting ducks.

I give not shit-one about being "picked on." Literally couldn't care less. And, to tell you the truth, I don't feel in any way that I'm "painting with a broad brush."

If you're voting republican these days, you're basically saying "I support the republican party and all it stands for." Whether you do or not.

So when I say things like, "The GOP is a wholly-owned subsidiary of corporate America that dupes rubes into voting against their own economic interest by feeding them this red-meat bullshit in the form of abortion and immigration" I really mean it.

And to argue otherwise, to say something like, "Well, you can't say this or that about all republicans because we/I don't support some of the things they're pushing" would be like saying, "I don't support the NAZI's stance on Jews. But I voted for them because they have the trains running on time and I like their position on gun-control."

You lie down with dogs, you get fleas.

925 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:50:00am

re: #919 Athens Runaway

I prefer to call it immanentizing the eschaton.

Sounds better on the business card.

That you, Voegelin?

926 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:50:08am

re: #919 Athens Runaway

I prefer to call it immanentizing the eschaton.

Sounds better on the business card.


re: #921 Walter L. Newton

Can you fit that on a business card?

Sure. I just use 3x5 cards. They're harder to lose.

927 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:52:02am

re: #913 darthstar

If he's a black-belt, then he's been trained to avoid conflict. He's just going to check out the rally, right? He's not going down there to pick a fight with anyone.

I know. But its a wife's prerogative to be a worry wart, ain't it? I'm sure he's going to bring back tons of good pics some of which he'll post and I'll get to hear all about it.

928 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:52:11am

re: #923 Guanxi88

Both sides; always print on both sides.

A friend of mine, now deceased, one of the best close-up magicians in the business, Don Alan, had one of the most copied business card sayings in the magic business... "Master Manipulator (no shitty tricks)" And he started using this phrase in the 50's, when that was not so PC.

929 RadicalModerate  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:52:24am

re: #860 Killgore Trout

From the Moonie Times: Is Obama fomenting a race war?

Jeffrey Kuhner wrote this tripe.

He's also the guy who suggested that Obama be impeached over the passage of the healthcare reform package, and this is far from the first time that he's blown the dog-whistle.

Wash. Times' Kuhner -- who published madrassa smear -- accuses Obama of creating "racial" division

930 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:52:24am

re: #924 Sigma_x


And to argue otherwise, to say something like, "Well, you can't say this or that about all republicans because we/I don't support some of the things they're pushing" would be like saying, "I don't support the NAZI's stance on Jews. But I voted for them because they have the trains running on time and I like their position on gun-control.".

Ahhh, finally - the republican-nazi analogy. I figured you had it in you.

931 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:52:38am

re: #926 Athens Runaway

Sure. I just use 3x5 cards. They're harder to lose.

Saw a fellow at a trade show - SOB had sterling silver business cards, finest quality work. THOSE you don't lose.

932 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:53:14am

re: #927 Dragon_Lady

I know. But its a wife's prerogative to be a worry wart, ain't it? I'm sure he's going to bring back tons of good pics some of which he'll post and I'll get to hear all about it.

I didn't know you and rightwingconspirator were married. That's awesome!

933 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:53:53am

re: #918 Killgore Trout

Interesting. I saw rumors about the yesterday. I wonder who will end up buying it.

Golden Casino. Will fit well with the "Jesus grilled cheese".
/

934 austin_blue  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:53:57am

re: #909 darthstar

FTFY...the first step in ending a flame war is to stop fanning. Your last sentence negates any understanding you might have gotten from your first.

Obama pissed me off too when he conceded on starting off-shore drilling, but it was a political move, and he's the president, so he's going to have to make political decisions from time to time that we all don't agree with.

And a big up-ding for that. Well said.

I worked as a well-head geologist for years internationally before I got into environmental geology, so I see a little more nuance than most folks. I've made my living on both sides of the issue.

Offshore drilling will always have its risks, but it must be balanced with need. In this particular instance, technology suffered an Epic Fail, and the Gulf Coast is going to get it in the neck.

It happens. We are imperfect. The question becomes "What do we do going forward?"

That is a point for honest discussion.

935 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:54:03am

re: #924 Sigma_x

I give not shit-one about being "picked on." Literally couldn't care less. And, to tell you the truth, I don't feel in any way that I'm "painting with a broad brush."

If you're voting republican these days, you're basically saying "I support the republican party and all it stands for." Whether you do or not.

So when I say things like, "The GOP is a wholly-owned subsidiary of corporate America that dupes rubes into voting against their own economic interest by feeding them this red-meat bullshit in the form of abortion and immigration" I really mean it.

And to argue otherwise, to say something like, "Well, you can't say this or that about all republicans because we/I don't support some of the things they're pushing" would be like saying, "I don't support the NAZI's stance on Jews. But I voted for them because they have the trains running on time and I like their position on gun-control."

You lie down with dogs, you get fleas.

As someone who makes big money arranging deals in the stock market, how do you keep those "wholly-owned subsidiary" corporations out of your fur... flea powder?

936 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:54:30am

re: #928 Walter L. Newton

A friend of mine, now deceased, one of the best close-up magicians in the business, Don Alan, had one of the most copied business card sayings in the magic business... "Master Manipulator (no shitty tricks)" And he started using this phrase in the 50's, when that was not so PC.

There's a lot to be said for a man so confident of his craft that he's prepared to go out on a limb. No one forgot his name after they got a card, that much I can guarantee.

937 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:54:54am

re: #932 darthstar

I didn't know you and rightwingconspirator were married. That's awesome!

This summer marks our 26th anniversary. Would you believe we met on a blind date?

938 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:55:14am

re: #927 Dragon_Lady

I know. But its a wife's prerogative to be a worry wart, ain't it? I'm sure he's going to bring back tons of good pics some of which he'll post and I'll get to hear all about it.

Hey..Did he take an M-16 to the rally?
/

939 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:55:46am

re: #934 austin_blue

And a big up-ding for that. Well said.

I worked as a well-head geologist for years internationally before I got into environmental geology, so I see a little more nuance than most folks. I've made my living on both sides of the issue.

Offshore drilling will always have its risks, but it must be balanced with need. In this particular instance, technology suffered an Epic Fail, and the Gulf Coast is going to get it in the neck.

It happens. We are imperfect. The question becomes "What do we do going forward?"

That is a point for honest discussion.

well said again. the upside of vapid flaming is that it brings out the best in the rest of you...

940 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:56:06am

re: #938 HoosierHoops

Hey..Did he take an M-16 to the rally?
/

LOL! I wish he had! I'd feel a lot better!

941 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:56:14am

re: #939 Aceofwhat?

well said again. the upside of vapid flaming is that it brings out the best in the rest of you...

The finest steel must pass through the hottest fire.

Or something.

942 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:57:12am

re: #934 austin_blue

I posted this earlier in the thread, but it bears repeating:
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

The US military has warned that surplus oil production capacity could disappear within two years and there could be serious shortages by 2015 with a significant economic and political impact.

Drilling may offer minimal relief to our needs, but we need to change our consumption habits or we're going to be fucked.

And GM should bring back their electric car.

943 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:57:22am

re: #936 Guanxi88

There's a lot to be said for a man so confident of his craft that he's prepared to go out on a limb. No one forgot his name after they got a card, that much I can guarantee.

Don Alan was one of the most entertaining close up magicians to come down the pike... and his routines were one of the most copied and ripped off... I have some of his personal props from his estate. He wanted his property sold off to the magic community, so it would be taken care of by people who understood the history behind the items.

944 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:57:25am

re: #935 Walter L. Newton

As someone who makes big money arranging deals in the stock market, how do you keep those "wholly-owned subsidiary" corporations out of your fur... flea powder?

By donating a lot of money to democratic causes, in a probably mis-giuided attempt to convince myself that if more citizens did that, politicians (both democrats AND republicans) wouldn't have to rely on corporate lobbyist money as much as they do.

The simple fact is that both parties are as dirty as can get when it comes to taking money from corporate America. But the democratic party hasn't gone completely bat-shit insane off-the-rails. So I support THEIR causes; THEIR ideas, over that of the disgustingly hypocritical, completely out-of-touch with reality ideas and positions being put forth by that shambles of a party, the GOP.

945 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:58:32am

re: #942 darthstar

I posted this earlier in the thread, but it bears repeating:
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

Drilling may offer minimal relief to our needs, but we need to change our consumption habits or we're going to be fucked.

And GM should bring back their electric car.

what do we want?
nuclear power!
when do we want it!
now!!!

946 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:58:56am

re: #942 darthstar

I posted this earlier in the thread, but it bears repeating:
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

Drilling may offer minimal relief to our needs, but we need to change our consumption habits or we're going to be fucked.

And GM should bring back their electric car.

Synch up the electric car with a nuclear grid, and we're golden.

947 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:59:52am

re: #931 Guanxi88

Saw a fellow at a trade show - SOB had sterling silver business cards, finest quality work. THOSE you don't lose.

Well, yeah! I would think not! At 17+ per ounce I would think most people would put them in a place they could see them everyday! Dang! Sterling silver business cards? Whew that'd cost a pretty penny!

948 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:00:10am

re: #945 Aceofwhat?

what do we want?
nuclear power!
when do we want it!
now!!!

Well, there's always the intermediate technology of coal to liquids. It's not perfect, it's not great, and it sure as hell ain't carbon-neutral, but it could provide a crutch till we get things where they ought to have been 30 years ago.

949 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:00:13am

re: #945 Aceofwhat?

what do we want?
nuclear power!
when do we want it!
now!!!

The reality of that, of course, is that it takes 10 to 15 years to get a nuclear power plant online. Had Bush or Clinton started new nuclear plants around the country, we'd be a couple of years away from being able to use them.

950 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:01:23am

re: #947 Dragon_Lady

Well, yeah! I would think not! At 17+ per ounce I would think most people would put them in a place they could see them everyday! Dang! Sterling silver business cards? Whew that'd cost a pretty penny!

They were a lot lighter than you'd think; the labor was the thing.

Guy's business? Semiconductor capital equipment. He'd made the cards on some new generation laser/electromachining equipment. Pretty slick.

951 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:02:36am

re: #949 darthstar

The reality of that, of course, is that it takes 10 to 15 years to get a nuclear power plant online. Had Bush or Clinton started new nuclear plants around the country, we'd be a couple of years away from being able to use them.

Honest question: is it fair to put the majority of the blame on this very narrow item on democrats? For some reason i have it in my head that they've been the primary source of non-local (i.e. non-NIMBY) opposition to new nuclear power plant development, but i want to bounce this off of a few sane people.

952 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:03:02am

I sometimes get my talking points from other, more sensible and articulate people, in an effort to not offend the delicate sensibilities of some on this board. This guy being one of them. He makes my point perfectly for me.

BUT BOTH PARTIES ARE THE SAME, RIGHT?
When Democrats run things, they tend to go after corporations, polluters, wealthy white collar criminals, etc.

When Republicans run things, they tend to go after history text books, brown people, poor people, gay people, the working class and, yes, scientists and teachers.

No one can accuse Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli of shying from controversy. In his first four months in office, Cuccinelli directed public universities to remove sexual orientation from their anti-discrimination policies, attacked the Environmental Protection Agency, and filed a lawsuit challenging federal health care reform. Now, it appears, he may be preparing a legal assault on an embattled proponent of global warming theory who used to teach at the University of Virginia, Michael Mann.
The Democrats aren't perfect or saintly, but the next hipster who tells me "both parties are the same" is gonna get a wollup right in the kisser. Verbally, of course.

953 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:03:09am

re: #950 Guanxi88

They were a lot lighter than you'd think; the labor was the thing.

Guy's business? Semiconductor capital equipment. He'd made the cards on some new generation laser/electromachining equipment. Pretty slick.

Still, were talking over $25.00 per card for metal plus labor.

954 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:04:01am

re: #944 Sigma_x

By donating a lot of money to democratic causes, in a probably mis-giuided attempt to convince myself that if more citizens did that, politicians (both democrats AND republicans) wouldn't have to rely on corporate lobbyist money as much as they do.

The simple fact is that both parties are as dirty as can get when it comes to taking money from corporate America. But the democratic party hasn't gone completely bat-shit insane off-the-rails. So I support THEIR causes; THEIR ideas, over that of the disgustingly hypocritical, completely out-of-touch with reality ideas and positions being put forth by that shambles of a party, the GOP.

You can make the statement you make above... yet don't see that you are doing the same thing that you claimed the "lower and middle-calls" conservatives are doing in regards to "abortion bills."

So, you dally with the big "ebil corporations" and to make yourself feel better, you support the same people (the Democrats) that you claim are "as dirty as can get when it comes to taking money from corporate America"... and you brag about it and don't see the hypocrisy...

It's sickening.

955 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:04:26am

re: #953 Dragon_Lady

Still, were talking over $25.00 per card for metal plus labor.

For a guy hawking $20million a-throw equipment, a drop in the bucket. I've got the card he gave me still, and never cease to tell how I came by it and how it was made. Now THAT is money well-spent.

956 goddamnedfrank  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:05:10am

re: #906 Walter L. Newton

And how many days was it until President Obama offered any input and help from the Federal Government for this disaster of "biblical proportions." A week... more... do you know?

The Coast Guard has been on station fighting the fire and coordinating the oil clean up response from day one. You knew that though. After Valdez the oil companies were supposed to be able to handle their own response, that didn't happen. Estimates for the amount of oil being released kept being modified upwards dramatically as the days wore on. But you go ahead and enjoy that know nothing talking point if it makes you feel bettter.

"In response to the BP oil spill, the Secretary of Defense is authorizing under title 32 the mobilization of the Louisiana National Guard to help in the ongoing efforts to assist local communities in the cleanup and removal of oil and to protect critical habitats from contamination. As the responsible party in this incident, the government will hold BP accountable for the costs of the deployment."

-Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell

957 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:05:44am

re: #948 Guanxi88

Well, there's always the intermediate technology of coal to liquids. It's not perfect, it's not great, and it sure as hell ain't carbon-neutral, but it could provide a crutch till we get things where they ought to have been 30 years ago.

Biofuels...they aren't that difficult to make (see Brazil) and the technology will pay for itself in a few years. And make this guy our Car Csar. He's converted a lot of GM vehicles to run on biodiesel (a Hummer that gets 60 mpg?) using standard GM parts.

958 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:06:03am

Lord, but I feel for the people of South Louisiana. Seems they just can't catch a break.

959 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:06:59am

re: #957 darthstar

Biofuels...they aren't that difficult to make (see Brazil) and the technology will pay for itself in a few years. And make this guy our Car Csar. He's converted a lot of GM vehicles to run on biodiesel (a Hummer that gets 60 mpg?) using standard GM parts.

Now bio-diesel makes a hell of a lot of sense; it's that ethanol crap (thank you so freaking much, Iowa!) that's given the whole alternative fuels business a bad name.

960 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:07:37am

re: #955 Guanxi88

For a guy hawking $20million a-throw equipment, a drop in the bucket. I've got the card he gave me still, and never cease to tell how I came by it and how it was made. Now THAT is money well-spent.

You do have a point. Has it started turning yet? I hope you've sealed it in plastic.

961 austin_blue  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:08:39am

re: #939 Aceofwhat?

well said again. the upside of vapid flaming is that it brings out the best in the rest of you...

Hey, Ace, I've been guilty of it a couple of times in the past and just decided that feeling like a shit-heel the next morning wasn't worth it. Folks need to realize that anonymity doesn't mean you are automatically assigned a get-out-of-jail-free card for being an asshole.

Flame wars just breed more flames. I love this board because most of the community doesn't tolerate it and prefers to discuss, not YELL.

962 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:08:52am

re: #960 Dragon_Lady

You do have a point. Has it started turning yet? I hope you've sealed it in plastic.

The occasional swipe with a cloth, and it's good as new. I recall asking why he didn't use .99 silver instead (it is very tarnish-resistant); he said he'd thought about it, but that fine silver was just too darned soft.

963 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:09:38am

re: #951 Aceofwhat?

Honest question: is it fair to put the majority of the blame on this very narrow item on democrats? For some reason i have it in my head that they've been the primary source of non-local (i.e. non-NIMBY) opposition to new nuclear power plant development, but i want to bounce this off of a few sane people.

Yes and no. Sure, there are a lot of anti-nuclear Democrats, myself included, but we all grew up with the Three Mile Island and Chernobyl fuckups. (and I still want to fuck Jane Fonda's character from the China Syndrome) But there are a lot of other people (see coal, clean) who are against nuclear energy because they see it as a threat to their livelihood.

So I guess I'd say it's complicated.

964 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:10:12am

re: #954 Walter L. Newton

You can make the statement you make above... yet don't see that you are doing the same thing that you claimed the "lower and middle-calls" conservatives are doing in regards to "abortion bills."

So, you dally with the big "ebil corporations" and to make yourself feel better, you support the same people (the Democrats) that you claim are "as dirty as can get when it comes to taking money from corporate America"... and you brag about it and don't see the hypocrisy...

It's sickening.

Wrong. I mean, it's not wrong of you to be sickened. It's just wrong what you're saying. When I say the democrats are "as dirty as the republicans" when it comes to taking corporate money, I mean they take the money, and they end up slipping into otherwise innocuous bills language and loopholes designed to further corporate welfare and help them maximize profits at the expense of the rest of us.

But what they DON'T do is push through laws that restrict abortion, denigrate brown-skinned people, allow everyone to walk around with automatic weapons, and a host of other issues that sicken me.

I'm still waiting for anyone on this board to offer up a viable defense of the republican party as it stands today. I don't see how anyone with half a brain - or even a semblance of a conscience - could.

965 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:11:26am

Just had a sales guy from "The Direct Buy Club" call me. He mispronounced my last name. I said, "First, you misprounced my last name--it's not that complex--and second, I don't buy into those kinds of scams." then hung up.

966 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:11:47am

re: #962 Guanxi88

The occasional swipe with a cloth, and it's good as new. I recall asking why he didn't use .99 silver instead (it is very tarnish-resistant); he said he'd thought about it, but that fine silver was just too darned soft.

He might have use a additive that retards tarnishing, there are several available now a days.

967 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:12:25am

re: #963 darthstar

Yes and no. Sure, there are a lot of anti-nuclear Democrats, myself included, but we all grew up with the Three Mile Island and Chernobyl fuckups. (and I still want to fuck Jane Fonda's character from the China Syndrome) But there are a lot of other people (see coal, clean) who are against nuclear energy because they see it as a threat to their livelihood.

So I guess I'd say it's complicated.

To say the least. Nuclear power would choke the last bit of life out of Appalachia, for one thing. The end of coal as a primary power-generation fuel would spell the end of the last large industry employing people there.

Similarly, nuclear plants could cut into the viability of the natural gas industry (large quantities of NG are consumed on back-up and auxiliary generation units at main generating stations, during peak use).

And then there's the fear of nuclear power among some in the public. I'm not saying it's wholly rational, but I'm not saying I'd be pleased with a reactor anywhere near me, either.

968 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:13:15am

re: #961 austin_blue

Hey, Ace, I've been guilty of it a couple of times in the past and just decided that feeling like a shit-heel the next morning wasn't worth it. Folks need to realize that anonymity doesn't mean you are automatically assigned a get-out-of-jail-free card for being an asshole.

Flame wars just breed more flames. I love this board because most of the community doesn't tolerate it and prefers to discuss, not YELL.

We all have. I know i'm doing it wrong when ten other lizards from all sides of the spectrum say "hey, dude, you're doing it wrong". My kind of place...

969 Renaissance_Man  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:15:00am

re: #951 Aceofwhat?

Honest question: is it fair to put the majority of the blame on this very narrow item on democrats? For some reason i have it in my head that they've been the primary source of non-local (i.e. non-NIMBY) opposition to new nuclear power plant development, but i want to bounce this off of a few sane people.

I think it's fair to stick much of the blame of opposition to nuclear power on lefty grab bag environmentalists. NIMBYism is politically neutral, of course, and is probably the main source of realistic opposition to nuclear power. I think the Democratic Party as a whole have shown that they're willing to ignore constituencies such as lefty grab bag environmentalists, and certainly it's true to say that the Democrats are still in control of their party and their policy decisions (and thus able to ignore some constituencies), as opposed to Republicans, who are no longer in control of their party or policy decisions.

I'm no particular fan of the Democrats, and indeed have never voted in the US, and in this case their inaction on this issue is deplorable. Especially since they are clearly capable of ignoring this special interest movement, as they demonstrate from time to time. Republicans have made no pushes for this issue when they are in power either, though. And the reason for that, I suspect, is that it has not been an issue that the Conservative media has pushed since the takeover of the GOP by said media.

970 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:16:25am

re: #963 darthstar

Yes and no. Sure, there are a lot of anti-nuclear Democrats, myself included, but we all grew up with the Three Mile Island and Chernobyl fuckups. (and I still want to fuck Jane Fonda's character from the China Syndrome) But there are a lot of other people (see coal, clean) who are against nuclear energy because they see it as a threat to their livelihood.

So I guess I'd say it's complicated.

thanks.

971 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:16:55am

re: #969 Renaissance_Man

good stuff. thanks-

972 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:17:15am

re: #962 Guanxi88

The occasional swipe with a cloth, and it's good as new. I recall asking why he didn't use .99 silver instead (it is very tarnish-resistant); he said he'd thought about it, but that fine silver was just too darned soft.

Hey, on that point - my wife just bought me this nice, silver celtic cross direct from Ireland, and the chain just ends up completely blackened after a day or so. So I clean it with this silver polish, it looks all nice and shiny for a day,.. and then ends up totally black again.

Is it not silver, the chain? Is silver supposed to do that? Or, if it is, what can I do that'll make it stay shiny?

973 bratwurst  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:18:27am

re: #951 Aceofwhat?

Honest question: is it fair to put the majority of the blame on this very narrow item on democrats? For some reason i have it in my head that they've been the primary source of non-local (i.e. non-NIMBY) opposition to new nuclear power plant development, but i want to bounce this off of a few sane people.

I am going to say no for two reasons. First of all, back in the aftermath of 3 Mile Island and before Al Gore, the environmentalism that kept nukes down was not especially partisan. Second of all and as darth has pointed out, economics has been a huge hurdle for nukes in the more recent past. The massive time and money commitment is just too hard to justify when oil has dipped as low as we have seen. I am not saying this is smart, just a big piece of the puzzle.

974 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:18:39am

re: #959 Guanxi88

Now bio-diesel makes a hell of a lot of sense; it's that ethanol crap (thank you so freaking much, Iowa!) that's given the whole alternative fuels business a bad name.

You can make bio-diesel, safely, in a blender in your kitchen (note: it ruins the blender). Vegetable oil, lye, and methyl alcohol. Blend, let settle for eight hours, and you can pour the diesel into any un-modified diesel engine, and the glycerine at the bottom can be used for garden mulch or made into soap.

I've seen home kits where a person used a 55 gallon drum and one of those electric outboard trolling motors to stir. At that volume, you can make biodiesel for about 45 cents a gallon...you just need to find a restaurant nearby that will give you their waste oil.

975 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:20:12am

re: #972 Sigma_x

Hey, on that point - my wife just bought me this nice, silver celtic cross direct from Ireland, and the chain just ends up completely blackened after a day or so. So I clean it with this silver polish, it looks all nice and shiny for a day,.. and then ends up totally black again.

Is it not silver, the chain? Is silver supposed to do that? Or, if it is, what can I do that'll make it stay shiny?

Its the copper in the alloy the chain is made from that is reacting with the acids in your skin that is turning it black. Silver itself doesn't tarnish. What kind of chain is it? Rope chain, Figaro, open link?

976 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:20:22am

re: #964 Sigma_x

But what they DON'T do is push through laws that restrict abortion, denigrate brown-skinned people, allow everyone to walk around with automatic weapons, and a host of other issues that sicken me.

I told myself i wasn't going to try to parse this hot little mess of yours, but "allow everyone to walk around with automatic weapons"?

That's what republicans want? They want to allow everyone to walk around with automatic weapons?

977 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:20:46am

re: #964 Sigma_x

Wrong. I mean, it's not wrong of you to be sickened. It's just wrong what you're saying. When I say the democrats are "as dirty as the republicans" when it comes to taking corporate money, I mean they take the money, and they end up slipping into otherwise innocuous bills language and loopholes designed to further corporate welfare and help them maximize profits at the expense of the rest of us.

But what they DON'T do is push through laws that restrict abortion, denigrate brown-skinned people, allow everyone to walk around with automatic weapons, and a host of other issues that sicken me.

I'm still waiting for anyone on this board to offer up a viable defense of the republican party as it stands today. I don't see how anyone with half a brain - or even a semblance of a conscience - could.

My only advice to you is to come to the realization that the majority of politicians that populate Washington have become kleptocrats and plutocrats, and none of them are really doing jack shit for YOU. Washington has become a money pit, only useful for the personal aggrandizement and profit of those willing to play suck up to big money and special interest.

The occasional fish they throw you, in the form of some of your liberal causes and concerns, no more than the fish they throw the conservatives, are simply pablum, a sedative to lull you into compliance, to make you feel like they are really concerned about you.

None of them are. You don't get to Washington unless you can be of some us to the existing Plutocracy. And the sooner you learn the skills of the kleptocrats, the faster you rise in power. For the same few, the idealist, they are chewed up and spit out, sent back to whence they came, of no use to the Washington barons.

You've been fooled.

978 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:21:26am

re: #973 bratwurst

I am going to say no for two reasons. First of all, back in the aftermath of 3 Mile Island and before Al Gore, the environmentalism that kept nukes down was not especially partisan. Second of all and as darth has pointed out, economics has been a huge hurdle for nukes in the more recent past. The massive time and money commitment is just too hard to justify when oil has dipped as low as we have seen. I am not saying this is smart, just a big piece of the puzzle.

thanks, i appreciate it. like i said, i sorta realized i had this notion in the back of my mind, but i'm not sure where it came from, so i though a few kind folks here who lean left would lend me their .02

979 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:21:47am

re: #975 Dragon_Lady

Its the copper in the alloy the chain is made from that is reacting with the acids in your skin that is turning it black. Silver itself doesn't tarnish. What kind of chain is it? Rope chain, Figaro, open link?

Rope chain, I guess.

980 Vambo  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:22:53am

Charming little email from a Wall St exec...

We are Wall Street. It's our job to make money. Whether it's a commodity, stock, bond, or some hypothetical piece of fake paper, it doesn't matter. We would trade baseball cards if it were profitable. I didn't hear America complaining when the market was roaring to 14,000 and everyone's 401k doubled every 3 years. Just like gambling, its not a problem until you lose. I've never heard of anyone going to Gamblers Anonymous because they won too much in Vegas.

Well now the market crapped out, & even though it has come back somewhat, the government and the average Joes are still looking for a scapegoat. God knows there has to be one for everything. Well, here we are.

Go ahead and continue to take us down, but you're only going to hurt yourselves. What's going to happen when we can't find jobs on the Street anymore? Guess what: We're going to take yours. We get up at 5am & work till 10pm or later. We're used to not getting up to pee when we have a position. We don't take an hour or more for a lunch break. We don't demand a union. We don't retire at 50 with a pension. We eat what we kill, and when the only thing left to eat is on your dinner plates, we'll eat that.

For years teachers and other unionized labor have had us fooled. We were too busy working to notice. Do you really think that we are incapable of teaching 3rd graders and doing landscaping? We're going to take your cushy jobs with tenure and 4 months off a year and whine just like you that we are so-o-o-o underpaid for building the youth of America. Say goodbye to your overtime and double time and a half. I'll be hitting grounders to the high school baseball team for $5k extra a summer, thank you very much.

So now that we're going to be making $85k a year without upside, Joe Mainstreet is going to have his revenge, right? Wrong! Guess what: we're going to stop buying the new 80k car, we aren't going to leave the 35 percent tip at our business dinners anymore. No more free rides on our backs. We're going to landscape our own back yards, wash our cars with a garden hose in our driveways. Our money was your money. You spent it. When our money dries up, so does yours.

The difference is, you lived off of it, we rejoiced in it. The Obama administration and the Democratic National Committee might get their way and knock us off the top of the pyramid, but it's really going to hurt like hell for them when our fat a**es land directly on the middle class of America and knock them to the bottom.

We aren't dinosaurs. We are smarter and more vicious than that, and we are going to survive. The question is, now that Obama & his administration are making Joe Mainstreet our food supply…will he? and will they?

Those rugged hunter-gatherers... how about that biggest-corporate-bailout in human history? was that an example of "working hard" or vicious opportunism?

981 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:23:06am

re: #974 darthstar

You can make bio-diesel, safely, in a blender in your kitchen (note: it ruins the blender). Vegetable oil, lye, and methyl alcohol. Blend, let settle for eight hours, and you can pour the diesel into any un-modified diesel engine, and the glycerine at the bottom can be used for garden mulch or made into soap.

I've seen home kits where a person used a 55 gallon drum and one of those electric outboard trolling motors to stir. At that volume, you can make biodiesel for about 45 cents a gallon...you just need to find a restaurant nearby that will give you their waste oil.

it's SUCH an untapped fuel source...

982 Vambo  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:23:28am

re: #980 Vambo

Charming little email from a Wall St exec...

Those rugged hunter-gatherers... how about that biggest-corporate-bailout in human history? was that an example of "working hard" or vicious opportunism?

woops, here ya go:
The Corner
[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

983 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:24:25am

re: #980 Vambo

Charming little email from a Wall St exec...

Those rugged hunter-gatherers... how about that biggest-corporate-bailout in human history? was that an example of "working hard" or vicious opportunism?

actually, i thought that was funny.

984 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:25:25am

re: #967 Guanxi88

And then there's the new "Bloom Box" This could be a serious contender.

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985 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:25:32am

re: #976 Aceofwhat?

I told myself i wasn't going to try to parse this hot little mess of yours, but "allow everyone to walk around with automatic weapons"?

That's what republicans want? They want to allow everyone to walk around with automatic weapons?

Uhhh, yeah dude. Literally one of the 1st things Bush did when he got in office was to lift the ban on assault weapons. And I'm pretty fucking sure that the majority of republicans in congress, if they had a vote on lifting any and all existing restrictions on assault weapons tomorrow, would vote yea. The gun lobby wants your average non-felon american citizen to be able to go into a gun store and be able to buy an assault rifle as easily as if he/she were buying a loaf of bread.

986 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:26:10am

re: #980 Vambo

Charming little email from a Wall St exec...

Those rugged hunter-gatherers... how about that biggest-corporate-bailout in human history? was that an example of "working hard" or vicious opportunism?

For those who play the stock market, or shaping it, it doesn't matter, as long as they are making as much money as they can.

987 Renaissance_Man  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:26:27am

re: #980 Vambo

For years teachers and other unionized labor have had us fooled. We were too busy working to notice. Do you really think that we are incapable of teaching 3rd graders and doing landscaping? We're going to take your cushy jobs with tenure and 4 months off a year and whine just like you that we are so-o-o-o underpaid for building the youth of America. Say goodbye to your overtime and double time and a half. I'll be hitting grounders to the high school baseball team for $5k extra a summer, thank you very much.

So now that we're going to be making $85k a year without upside, Joe Mainstreet is going to have his revenge, right? Wrong! Guess what: we're going to stop buying the new 80k car, we aren't going to leave the 35 percent tip at our business dinners anymore. No more free rides on our backs. We're going to landscape our own back yards, wash our cars with a garden hose in our driveways. Our money was your money. You spent it. When our money dries up, so does yours.

The difference is, you lived off of it, we rejoiced in it. The Obama administration and the Democratic National Committee might get their way and knock us off the top of the pyramid, but it's really going to hurt like hell for them when our fat a**es land directly on the middle class of America and knock them to the bottom.

Don't shrug too hard, Atlas.

988 jvic  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:26:31am

re: #973 bratwurst

I am going to say no for two reasons. First of all, back in the aftermath of 3 Mile Island and before Al Gore, the environmentalism that kept nukes down was not especially partisan. Second of all and as darth has pointed out, economics has been a huge hurdle for nukes in the more recent past. The massive time and money commitment is just too hard to justify when oil has dipped as low as we have seen. I am not saying this is smart, just a big piece of the puzzle.

Good point: some things that used to be bipartisan, no longer are. Iirc it was Nixon that created the EPA.

But if we talk about the last twenty years--the last ten, anyway--it seems to me that ill-considered opposition to nukes comes primarily from the Left. And ill-considered opposition to biotech comes primarily from the Right.

(Btw, 'ill-considered' is actually not the term I have in mind, but given the temperature of some preceding posts it seems a prudent term to use.)

989 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:27:14am

re: #985 Sigma_x

The gun lobby wants your average non-felon american citizen to be able to go into a gun store and be able to buy an assault rifle as easily as if he/she were buying a loaf of bread.

Is it just me, or would "The Gun Lobby" be a freakin' sweet name for a gun store?

990 Vambo  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:27:21am

re: #983 Aceofwhat?

actually, i thought that was funny.

it was the very definition of elitism. And also, no, I don't really think that smug, (self-described!) fat Wall Street yuppies could teach third grade or do landscaping.

991 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:27:57am

re: #979 Sigma_x

Rope chain, I guess.

Okay, look at the clasp. There should be a stamp on it that says .925 or SS if its sterling silver. If it doesn't have those marks I would go out and get a new chain. If it does have those marks it's definatly the copper used to alloy the silver with that's turning from the contact with the acids in your skin. In case your wondering how I know this I have spent the last 23 years working in the jewelry industry in the downtown Los Angeles Jewelry District.

992 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:28:56am

re: #985 Sigma_x

Uhhh, yeah dude. Literally one of the 1st things Bush did when he got in office was to lift the ban on assault weapons. And I'm pretty fucking sure that the majority of republicans in congress, if they had a vote on lifting any and all existing restrictions on assault weapons tomorrow, would vote yea. The gun lobby wants your average non-felon american citizen to be able to go into a gun store and be able to buy an assault rifle as easily as if he/she were buying a loaf of bread.

And that show you how little you understand gun issues outside of your little world. Out here in the west, liberal and conservatives are on the same page when it comes to gun issues.

So, once again, your broad brushed pronouncements fall flat and don't have as wide of a sweep as you imagine.

Try to take any weapon away from a full-fledge progressive in Wyoming or any of the western states.

Get real... and get a little informed.

993 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:29:07am

re: #989 Athens Runaway

Is it just me, or would "The Gun Lobby" be a freakin' sweet name for a gun store?

Yes, it would. Check out this artist, speaking of guns. He makes miniature mosques out of actual guns and bullets.

[Link: www.alfarrow.com...]

994 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:30:41am

re: #991 Dragon_Lady

Okay, look at the clasp. There should be a stamp on it that says .925 or SS if its sterling silver. If it doesn't have those marks I would go out and get a new chain. If it does have those marks it's definatly the copper used to alloy the silver with that's turning from the contact with the acids in your skin. In case your wondering how I know this I have spent the last 23 years working in the jewelry industry in the downtown Los Angeles Jewelry District.

No shit? I just sold a diamond their to some Iranian a few months ago. That's funny.

Thanks.

995 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:31:53am

Hey, RWC just called and said the red line train to downtown LA was jammed, standing room only and everyone one of those people got off at the Pershing square stop heading for the rally. It's looking to be a huge turn out today, I promised to keep an eye on the news for updates and call him if anything exciting is going on and let him know. Here we go Lizards, its going to be a big deal!

996 jvic  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:32:21am

re: #980 Vambo

Those rugged hunter-gatherers... how about that biggest-corporate-bailout in human history? was that an example of "working hard" or vicious opportunism?

Both. Vicious opportunism is a cutthroat business.

Btw, I don't believe that email. The Wall Streeters work hard because it's very competitive, and it's very competitive because you can make a lot of money in a short time. IMHO if everybody on Wall Street went to work for the Registry of Motor Vehicles, most would quickly adapt to the culture. (A few adrenalin junkies might go postal.)

997 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:32:32am

re: #994 Sigma_x

No shit? I just sold a diamond their to some Iranian a few months ago. That's funny.

Thanks.

LOL! Love it!

998 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:32:34am

re: #993 Sigma_x

Yes, it would. Check out this artist, speaking of guns. He makes miniature mosques out of actual guns and bullets.

[Link: www.alfarrow.com...]

Macabre, with sprinklings of just plain cool.

Thank you for that. See, guns aren't completely ebil, they can be re-manufactured into cool objets d'art!

999 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:33:32am

re: #989 Athens Runaway

Is it just me, or would "The Gun Lobby" be a freakin' sweet name for a gun store?

Works for me!

1000 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:34:37am

re: #985 Sigma_x

Uhhh, yeah dude. Literally one of the 1st things Bush did when he got in office was to lift the ban on assault weapons. And I'm pretty fucking sure that the majority of republicans in congress, if they had a vote on lifting any and all existing restrictions on assault weapons tomorrow, would vote yea. The gun lobby wants your average non-felon american citizen to be able to go into a gun store and be able to buy an assault rifle as easily as if he/she were buying a loaf of bread.

I am literally dumber for having read that. Of course, i asked for it, so i share the blame.

Assault rifles remain illegal, dude. The ban only treated SEMIautomatic weapons, and Bush didn't "lift the ban". It expired in 2004 and Bush, IIRC, was on the record as saying he'd have signed an extension if Congress had asked for one.

That is why you fail...

1001 webevintage  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:35:05am

re: #980 Vambo

Charming little email from a Wall St exec...

I didn't hear America complaining when the market was roaring to 14,000 and everyone's 401k doubled every 3 years. Just like gambling, its not a problem until you lose. I've never heard of anyone going to Gamblers Anonymous because they won too much in Vegas.

Except unlike the fuckers on Wall Street when a gambler loses it all they do not expect the tax payer to bail their "Masters of the Universe" asses out of the fire.

BTW, tornadoes suck.
We spent most of last nigth in the storm shelter with a 2 tornadoes coming way to close.
More this PM.
Ugh.

1002 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:35:26am

re: #998 Athens Runaway

Macabre, with sprinklings of just plain cool.

Thank you for that. See, guns aren't completely ebil, they can be re-manufactured into cool objets d'art!

Ha! The Vibrator of Santa Guerro

1003 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:37:21am

re: #1001 webevintage

Except unlike the fuckers on Wall Street when a gambler loses it all they do not expect the tax payer to bail their "Masters of the Universe" asses out of the fire.

BTW, tornadoes suck.
We spent most of last nigth in the storm shelter with a 2 tornadoes coming way to close.
More this PM.
Ugh.

stay safe!

1004 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:37:58am

re: #999 Dragon_Lady

Works for me!

It has a certain, "Thank You For Smoking," "Merchants of Death" je ne sais quoi to it.

Using the other side's slogans against them.

1005 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:38:34am

re: #1000 Aceofwhat?

I am literally dumber for having read that. Of course, i asked for it, so i share the blame.

Assault rifles remain illegal, dude. The ban only treated SEMIautomatic weapons, and Bush didn't "lift the ban". It expired in 2004 and Bush, IIRC, was on the record as saying he'd have signed an extension if Congress had asked for one.

That is why you fail...

Whatever. If I "failed" I failed. Doesn't belie the fact that most republicans in congress would have the ban lifted, at the behest of their masters in the NRA.

Or are you arguing that, too? Are you seriously trying to say that the GOP on the whole, doesn't see anything wrong with assault weapons being made available to the average law-abiding american gun-consuming consumer?

Because, if you are, you'd be lying.

1006 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:38:45am

re: #992 Walter L. Newton

And that show you how little you understand gun issues outside of your little world. Out here in the west, liberal and conservatives are on the same page when it comes to gun issues.

So, once again, your broad brushed pronouncements fall flat and don't have as wide of a sweep as you imagine.

Try to take any weapon away from a full-fledge progressive in Wyoming or any of the western states.

Get real... and get a little informed.

Ain't that the truth, though. One of the most amazing and wonderful things about people who live in largely free areas is that they are afforded the scope necessary to act consistently on their principles.

Just TRY to take a Texas feminist's pistol from her, or just TRY to persuade a Black Democrat in Houston that he doesn't "need" that particular weapon, and standby for one Hell of an argument.

Free people are armed; on this Left, Right, Royalist, Aristocrat, Communist, and Anarchist all agree, since the right to self-defense (and the means to make that right more than just some words on paper or a high-sounding sentiment) is a fundamental human right.

1007 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:39:03am

re: #1000 Aceofwhat?

I am literally dumber for having read that. Of course, i asked for it, so i share the blame.

Assault rifles remain illegal, dude. The ban only treated SEMIautomatic weapons, and Bush didn't "lift the ban". It expired in 2004 and Bush, IIRC, was on the record as saying he'd have signed an extension if Congress had asked for one.

That is why you fail...

And like I mentioned above, gun issues are not a monolithic between the parties as some people want to imply. Out here in the west, both liberal and conservatives are on the same page about most gun issues.

I posted numerous links over the years to essays and articles that talk about how much agreement there is between the parties on gun issues, depending on the area of the country.

Broad-brushed hyperbolic statement about gun issues are worthless and in short, lies... I wish people who think that way would really look past the end of the street they live on and study up on the finer points of the issues.

They would be in for a big surprise.

1008 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:39:26am

re: #1005 Sigma_x

Whatever. If I "failed" I failed. Doesn't belie the fact that most republicans in congress would have the ban lifted, at the behest of their masters in the NRA.

Or are you arguing that, too? Are you seriously trying to say that the GOP on the whole, doesn't see anything wrong with assault weapons being made available to the average law-abiding american gun-consuming consumer?

Because, if you are, you'd be lying.

what is your definition of an "assault weapon"? be specific.

1009 austin_blue  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:39:46am

re: #969 Renaissance_Man

I think it's fair to stick much of the blame of opposition to nuclear power on lefty grab bag environmentalists. NIMBYism is politically neutral, of course, and is probably the main source of realistic opposition to nuclear power. I think the Democratic Party as a whole have shown that they're willing to ignore constituencies such as lefty grab bag environmentalists, and certainly it's true to say that the Democrats are still in control of their party and their policy decisions (and thus able to ignore some constituencies), as opposed to Republicans, who are no longer in control of their party or policy decisions.

I'm no particular fan of the Democrats, and indeed have never voted in the US, and in this case their inaction on this issue is deplorable. Especially since they are clearly capable of ignoring this special interest movement, as they demonstrate from time to time. Republicans have made no pushes for this issue when they are in power either, though. And the reason for that, I suspect, is that it has not been an issue that the Conservative media has pushed since the takeover of the GOP by said media.

Good points, all. I'm a member of the Sierra Club and as Viridian Green as I can be. But you will see me raising my hand when asked "Who supports Nuclear Power?"

Power stations are power stations. They use fuel to generate heat and electricity. The only other thing they need is water to cool the heat and a hook-up to the transmission grid. If you look around the country you will note that we have hundreds of sites with the necessary infrastructure.

We call them "coal-fired power plants". Let's just build the reactors at these existing sites. We'll deal with the waste later. It's doable now without many NIMBY problems.

Times a'wastin'!

1010 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:40:30am

re: #1007 Walter L. Newton

very true. updinged.

1011 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:40:54am

re: #1008 Aceofwhat?

what is your definition of an "assault weapon"? be specific.

I don't know, because I don't know anything about guns, really. I guess the AR-15 would do; the civilian version of the M-16.

The NRA wants you and me (we'll, not me - I have felonies on my record) to be able to buy them and have them and carry them in gun racks in our cars.

That is a fact.

1012 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:40:59am

re: #1009 austin_blue

Good points, all. I'm a member of the Sierra Club and as Viridian Green as I can be. But you will see me raising my hand when asked "Who supports Nuclear Power?"

Power stations are power stations. They use fuel to generate heat and electricity. The only other thing they need is water to cool the heat and a hook-up to the transmission grid. If you look around the country you will note that we have hundreds of sites with the necessary infrastructure.

We call them "coal-fired power plants". Let's just build the reactors at these existing sites. We'll deal with the waste later. It's doable now without many NIMBY problems.

Times a'wastin'!

sign me up!

1013 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:41:01am

re: #1005 Sigma_x

Whatever. If I "failed" I failed. Doesn't belie the fact that most republicans in congress would have the ban lifted, at the behest of their masters in the NRA.

Or are you arguing that, too? Are you seriously trying to say that the GOP on the whole, doesn't see anything wrong with assault weapons being made available to the average law-abiding american gun-consuming consumer?

Because, if you are, you'd be lying.

I think you might be confusing semi-automatic firearms with assault weapons. You do understand that they are two different types of things, don't you?

And as for law-abiding citizens having the right to acquire weapons of either description, I'd have no problem if either party endorsed the proposal.

1014 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:42:33am

Or what about that ridiculous 50-caliber sniper rifle that can put a hole in a engine block from a mile away?

They want you to be able to buy that, too.

1015 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:42:48am

re: #1011 Sigma_x

I don't know, because I don't know anything about guns, really. I guess the AR-15 would do; the civilian version of the M-16.

The NRA wants you and me (we'll, not me - I have felonies on my record) to be able to buy them and have them and carry them in gun racks in our cars.

That is a fact.

But you can carry a rifle in a gun rack in your vehicle in most states already. You do know that, right? I mean, this is a largely free nation - you have that right, so long as the weapon is not loaded, you are in lawful possession of the vehicle and the weapon, and you are not engaged in a felony, there's no harm to it at all.

1016 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:43:38am

re: #1011 Sigma_x

I don't know, because I don't know anything about guns, really. I guess the AR-15 would do; the civilian version of the M-16.

The NRA wants you and me (we'll, not me - I have felonies on my record) to be able to buy them and have them and carry them in gun racks in our cars.

That is a fact.

And you don't know anything about the gun issues... are you getting your talking points off a milk carton?

1017 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:43:55am

re: #1015 Guanxi88

But you can carry a rifle in a gun rack in your vehicle in most states already. You do know that, right? I mean, this is a largely free nation - you have that right, so long as the weapon is not loaded, you are in lawful possession of the vehicle and the weapon, and you are not engaged in a felony, there's no harm to it at all.

Yeah, dude - but a rifle that can shoot some absurd amount of bullets per second? That they'd have available for purchase here in the U.S.?! Seriously?!

1018 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:44:02am

re: #1014 Sigma_x

Or what about that ridiculous 50-caliber sniper rifle that can put a hole in a engine block from a mile away?

They want you to be able to buy that, too.

Does it bother you, long-range accuracy in rifles? How many of these dread instruments have been used in the commission of crimes? None that I've heard of.

Do you have a problem with people owning sports cars with engines capable of accelerating them well past all known legal speed limits?

1019 Daniel Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:44:24am

re: #997 Dragon_Lady

Hey good to see you online. We are at RWC office HQ and the march has all the earmarks of being huge. The subways are jammed-Waiting lines to get on the train a bit like Japan. Standing room only.

First impressions-The official ANSWER shirt color is white. It's not yet crowded. Big police presence. There are so many helicopters above they are the din for now. Puts that weird apocalypse now feeling in the air, its the low thudding that gets our primitive brain stem thinking red alert. We are staged up one block from the March, and going to the rooftop shortly for a good overview (I hope)

1020 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:44:32am

re: #1017 Sigma_x

Yeah, dude - but a rifle that can shoot some absurd amount of bullets per second? That they'd have available for purchase here in the U.S.?! Seriously?!

They used to be, and, in fact, still are, with a permit.

1021 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:44:33am

re: #1016 Walter L. Newton

And you don't know anything about the gun issues... are you getting your talking points off a milk carton?

Milk cartons come with political tracts now?

Damn, where I live, we just have those yellow plastic jugs.

DAMNIT OHIO GET WITH THE 21ST CENTURY!

1022 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:45:10am

re: #1019 Rightwingconspirator

There are so many helicopters above they are the din for now. Puts that weird apocalypse now feeling in the air, its the low thudding that gets our primitive brain stem thinking red alert. We are staged up one block from the March, and going to the rooftop shortly for a good overview (I hope)

Need moar "Ride of the Valkyries"

1023 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:45:15am

re: #1014 Sigma_x

Or what about that ridiculous 50-caliber sniper rifle that can put a hole in a engine block from a mile away?

They want you to be able to buy that, too.

Apparently, those are quite effective on rodents.

1024 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:45:57am

re: #1004 Athens Runaway

It has a certain, "Thank You For Smoking," "Merchants of Death" je ne sais quoi to it.

Using the other side's slogans against them.

Um, Athens my friend, you're not going to get a rise out of me, but I happen to be a responsible pro-gun owner. I have been a certified firearms safety officer and competitive speed shooter for many years now. Have you ever heard of the "Steel Challenge"? Its the World Speed Shooting Championship, and I have been a Range Officer at this even for 8 years now. I happen to think that responsible gun ownership means never, ever pointing a gun at anything your not willing to kill or destroy and teaching gun safety to anyone who's interested.

1025 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:46:10am

This is a stupid fucking argument. Period.

Anyone who thinks that military grade weapons should be made available to your average Joe is insane.

The second amendment states that "the rights to bear arms is integral to a well-regulated militia."

If you want to go by the letter of the constitution and all that, the only guns that should be legal are fucking musket rifles that take 2 minutes to load between shots.

1026 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:46:13am

re: #1022 Athens Runaway

Need moar "Ride of the Valkyries"

"how do you feel, Jimmy?"

"Like a mean motherf*cker, sir!"

1027 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:47:43am

re: #1024 Dragon_Lady

Um, Athens my friend, you're not going to get a rise out of me, but I happen to be a responsible pro-gun owner. I have been a certified firearms safety officer and competitive speed shooter for many years now. Have you ever heard of the "Steel Challenge"? Its the World Speed Shooting Championship, and I have been a Range Officer at this even for 8 years now. I happen to think that responsible gun ownership means never, ever pointing a gun at anything your not willing to kill or destroy and teaching gun safety to anyone who's interested.

Actually we're in near total agreement, I suspect

I'm just a smartass. When in doubt, read my comments with a sarcastic or irreverant tone. :)

1028 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:47:51am

I have nothing against guns. Handguns, hunting rifles, shotguns, things of that nature.

Anything other than that is not only unnecessary, but insane and dangerous to the public safety.

1029 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:47:58am

re: #1011 Sigma_x

I don't know, because I don't know anything about guns, really. I guess the AR-15 would do; the civilian version of the M-16.

The NRA wants you and me (we'll, not me - I have felonies on my record) to be able to buy them and have them and carry them in gun racks in our cars.

That is a fact.

What's a fact is that you have no idea what you're talking about, but it's on your list of why republicans ~ nazis.

The AR-15 has been legal. Variants with certain features such as collapsible stocks, flash suppressors, and bayonet lugs were prohibited for sales to civilians during the period 1994–2004 by the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994.

But you could always buy an AR-15.

Thank you for doing so much research on your "list-o-evil" before it shaped the core of your political philosophy.

1030 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:49:04am

re: #1025 Sigma_x


If you want to go by the letter of the constitution and all that, the only guns that should be legal are fucking musket rifles that take 2 minutes to load between shots.

Those muskets were the cutting-edge of military technology of the day. Just sayin'.

And the Supreme Court, in a case the name of which escapes me, held that the Federal ban on short-barrelled shotguns was Constitutional as weapons of that description were not generally recognized as effective for military purposes, suggesting that the Justices recognized that the military utility of the weapon had at least some bearing on the legality of a weapon under the second amendment.

1031 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:49:05am

re: #1027 Athens Runaway

Actually we're in near total agreement, I suspect

I'm just a smartass. When in doubt, read my comments with a sarcastic or irreverant tone. :)

Thats okay, I like smart asses, just ask RWC! :-) Oh and by the way you really should check out the "Steel Challenge"! It's really cool!

1032 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:49:15am

re: #1016 Walter L. Newton

And you don't know anything about the gun issues... are you getting your talking points off a milk carton?

Doesn't know anything about guns, except that it's a core unit in his republicans=evil philosophy.

And he wonders why we occasionally don't engage the "substance" of his posts.

9_9

1033 austin_blue  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:49:36am

re: #1014 Sigma_x

Or what about that ridiculous 50-caliber sniper rifle that can put a hole in a engine block from a mile away?

They want you to be able to buy that, too.

Heck, son, a Barrett is a varmint gun down here in Texas...

1034 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:49:37am

re: #1028 Sigma_x

I have nothing against guns. Handguns, hunting rifles, shotguns, things of that nature.

Anything other than that is not only unnecessary, but insane and dangerous to the public safety.

Agreed! Upding for you!

1035 jvic  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:49:59am

re: #957 darthstar

Biofuels...they aren't that difficult to make (see Brazil) and the technology will pay for itself in a few years. And make this guy our Car Csar. He's converted a lot of GM vehicles to run on biodiesel (a Hummer that gets 60 mpg?) using standard GM parts.

Thanks for the link. Bookmarked. Recommended.

Bill Gates' predatory nastiness has always put me off, but maybe Jonathan Goodwin needs something like it. A lot of inertia and special-interest obstructionism stands between where we are and where we should be.

1036 webevintage  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:50:04am

re: #1006 Guanxi88


Free people are armed; on this Left, Right, Royalist, Aristocrat, Communist, and Anarchist all agree, since the right to self-defense (and the means to make that right more than just some words on paper or a high-sounding sentiment) is a fundamental human right.

I'm sure you meant to say "Free people can be armed if they so choose to be"....I consider myself free and y'all can have as many guns as you want I just don't feel the need or want to spend my money on guns.

There is a rifle here that belonged to my husband's father and he does have bullets for it "just in case*" that are not stored with the rifle.
It is a pretty gun.

(not sure if that is "just in case I need to join a well-regulated militia" or "just in case we need to shoot a rabid dog")

1037 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:50:13am

re: #1033 austin_blue

Heck, son, a Barrett is a varmint gun down here in Texas...

Everything's bigger in Texas.

1038 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:50:44am

re: #1025 Sigma_x

This is a stupid fucking argument. Period.

You're right. One of us is fucking clueless.

1039 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:51:06am

re: #1036 webevintage

I'm sure you meant to say "Free people can be armed if they so choose to be"...I consider myself free and y'all can have as many guns as you want I just don't feel the need or want to spend my money on guns.

True, they wouldn't be free if they were compelled to be armed. Good point.

1040 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:51:31am

re: #1032 Aceofwhat?

Doesn't know anything about guns, except that it's a core unit in his republicans=evil philosophy.

And he wonders why we occasionally don't engage the "substance" of his posts.

9_9

No shit.

1041 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:51:49am

re: #1029 Aceofwhat?

What's a fact is that you have no idea what you're talking about, but it's on your list of why republicans ~ nazis.

The AR-15 has been legal. Variants with certain features such as collapsible stocks, flash suppressors, and bayonet lugs were prohibited for sales to civilians during the period 1994–2004 by the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994.

But you could always buy an AR-15.

Thank you for doing so much research on your "list-o-evil" before it shaped the core of your political philosophy.

1st of all, I never once equated the republican party with Nazis. Idiot.

2ndly - I don't think an AR-15 should've ever been legal in the 1st place, collapsable stock or not. And, from what I understand, it's quite easy to make semi-automatic guns fully automatic.

Muskets, I tell you. Muskets.

1042 Liberal Classic  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:51:52am

re: #1028 Sigma_x

Dude, would you like a brown paper bag to hyperventilate into?

1043 Renaissance_Man  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:52:14am

re: #1025 Sigma_x


The second amendment states that "the rights to bear arms is integral to a well-regulated militia."

If you want to go by the letter of the constitution and all that, the only guns that should be legal are fucking musket rifles that take 2 minutes to load between shots.

You aren't going to find a single person more anti-gun on this site than myself. However, even I know that making arguments that misquote the Second Amendment is not going to score any points with those opposing you, and is in fact only going to serve to get you more upset.

1044 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:53:16am

You can have my E-11 blaster rifle when you pry if from my cold, dead hands!!!

1045 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:54:03am

re: #1043 Renaissance_Man

You aren't going to find a single person more anti-gun on this site than myself. However, even I know that making arguments that misquote the Second Amendment is not going to score any points with those opposing you, and is in fact only going to serve to get you more upset.

I'm not upset. Did I mis-quote it? I just rattled it off from what I could remember. Guess I should put "yada yada yada" in it.

1046 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:54:03am

re: #1041 Sigma_x

1st of all, I never once equated the republican party with Nazis. Idiot.

2ndly - I don't think an AR-15 should've ever been legal in the 1st place, collapsable stock or not. And, from what I understand, it's quite easy to make semi-automatic guns fully automatic.

Muskets, I tell you. Muskets.

You really don't know squat about guns... even back then. It was muskrats they used during the colonial times... muskrats.

1047 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:54:19am

re: #1041 Sigma_x

1st of all, I never once equated the republican party with Nazis. Idiot.

re: #924 Sigma_x


And to argue otherwise, to say something like, "Well, you can't say this or that about all republicans because we/I don't support some of the things they're pushing" would be like saying, "I don't support the NAZI's stance on Jews. But I voted for them because they have the trains running on time and I like their position on gun-control."

You lie down with dogs, you get fleas.

Not quite equating the GOP with the NSDAP, but right up to the line.

And as for the conversion of semi-auto to full auto, if, as you say you understand, it's not that difficult, then you must wonder why it's not more commonly done, if it's so simple. I'd suggest that perhaps you understand a bit less on the topic than you might believe.

1048 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:54:27am

Way OT:
re: #1031 Dragon_Lady

Thats okay, I like smart asses, just ask RWC! :-) Oh and by the way you really should check out the "Steel Challenge"! It's really cool!

The local fishwrap once wrote a column about me being at a local politician's stump speech about why he was endorsing a gubernatorial candidate press conference, and confused me for a competing paper's reporter who asked a question that the fishwrap's reporter thought was stupid.

I was a columnist at a third competing newspaper for a period of time, and they went back into the archives and concluded that I was "sometimes humorous, often flippant and irreverant, and just slightly right-of-center—to put it mildly."

Then they got a phone call from me asking why the hell a private citizen was being blasted for attending an open-to-the-public event, and a reminder that I didn't say a single word at the "conference."

The column was quietly retracted, but I still wear their endorsement as a badge of honor.

1049 austin_blue  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:54:36am

re: #1037 Guanxi88

Everything's bigger in Texas.

Including our egos!

Beautiful quiet morning in Austin, isn't it?

1050 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:55:03am

re: #1045 Sigma_x

I'm not upset. Did I mis-quote it? I just rattled it off from what I could remember. Guess I should put "yada yada yada" in it.

Guess you should have put some accuracy in it.

1051 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:55:17am

re: #1041 Sigma_x

1st of all, I never once equated the republican party with Nazis. Idiot.

#924? Really? I'm the idiot but you're the one making wild claims about "assault rifles" with no actual knowledge of the subject.

Someone get me a fainting couch ere i swoon...

1052 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:55:26am

re: #1049 austin_blue

Including our egos!

Beautiful quiet morning in Austin, isn't it?

It is. A lovely drive in I had, too. Just miles of wildflowers the whole way. Till I got up around William Cannon, of course.

1053 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:55:37am

Okay...almost time for "Wait, wait, don't tell me!" on NPR...which is my cue to load the dogs in the car and start heading for the beach. I do hope they have Paula Poundstone on this week. I love it when she's on the show.

Have a good day, everyone. Be kind, rewind, and all that shit.

1054 Daniel Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:56:23am

re: #1022 Athens Runaway

Back to the street!
Later all.

1055 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:56:30am

re: #1047 Guanxi88

Not quite equating the GOP with the NSDAP, but right up to the line.

And as for the conversion of semi-auto to full auto, if, as you say you understand, it's not that difficult, then you must wonder why it's not more commonly done, if it's so simple. I'd suggest that perhaps you understand a bit less on the topic than you might believe.

Right up to the line? Maybe. But I never once said GOP = Nazi. That would be retarded.

Not simple? Took me all of 3 seconds to find a direct link to instructions on how to do it.

1056 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:56:55am

re: #1053 darthstar

Okay...almost time for "Wait, wait, don't tell me!" on NPR...which is my cue to load the dogs in the car and start heading for the beach. I do hope they have Paula Poundstone on this week. I love it when she's on the show.

Have a good day, everyone. Be kind, rewind, and all that shit.

"Car Talk" just barely beats out WWDTM for "Best Use of Taxpayer Money."

1057 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:58:19am

re: #1050 Walter L. Newton

Guess you should have put some accuracy in it.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

What the big difference in what I originally wrote? You act like I mangled the whole thing.

1058 zora  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:58:47am

re: #1054 Rightwingconspirator

thanks for keeping us posted.

1059 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:00:29am

re: #1055 Sigma_x

Right up to the line? Maybe. But I never once said GOP = Nazi. That would be retarded.

Not simple? Took me all of 3 seconds to find a direct link to instructions on how to do it.

Great, excellent. tell me, do you really think all that's needed to modify the function of a sear is a twist-tie? How reliable are instructions like that likely to be, anyway? And, again, if it's such a simple thing to do, why don't the gang-bangers do it?

I'll tell you why - if you follow the "instructions" on that page, or on any page that purports to explain semi-to-full auto conversion that doesn't begin with:

"1) Acquire a vertical milling machine and metal lathe"

You'll f*ck up the weapon and probably yourself as well.

1060 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:00:31am

re: #1054 Rightwingconspirator

Back to the street!
Later all.

Stay safe out there!

1061 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:01:17am

re: #1048 Athens Runaway

Way OT:


The local fishwrap once wrote a column about me being at a local politician's stump speech about why he was endorsing a gubernatorial candidate press conference, and confused me for a competing paper's reporter who asked a question that the fishwrap's reporter thought was stupid.

I was a columnist at a third competing newspaper for a period of time, and they went back into the archives and concluded that I was "sometimes humorous, often flippant and irreverant, and just slightly right-of-center—to put it mildly."

Then they got a phone call from me asking why the hell a private citizen was being blasted for attending an open-to-the-public event, and a reminder that I didn't say a single word at the "conference."

The column was quietly retracted, but I still wear their endorsement as a badge of honor.

And so you should! Upding for you!

1062 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:01:24am

re: #1055 Sigma_x

Right up to the line? Maybe. But I never once said GOP = Nazi. That would be retarded.

that's why i paraphrased you as saying the GOP ~ Nazi.

which is still idiotic.

(i signed the pledge not to use the r- word anymore, which doesn't make sense, since i'm ~ Nazi...)

1063 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:02:46am

re: #1059 Guanxi88

Great, excellent. tell me, do you really think all that's needed to modify the function of a sear is a twist-tie? How reliable are instructions like that likely to be, anyway? And, again, if it's such a simple thing to do, why don't the gang-bangers do it?

I'll tell you why - if you follow the "instructions" on that page, or on any page that purports to explain semi-to-full auto conversion that doesn't begin with:

"1) Acquire a vertical milling machine and metal lathe"

You'll f*ck up the weapon and probably yourself as well.

Jury rigging any weapon with a twist tie is LOLFAIL.

1064 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:03:48am

re: #1063 Varek Raith

Jury rigging any weapon with a twist tie is LOLFAIL.

It'd make good LiveLeak or youtube material, though. The test-firing, I mean.

1065 Liberal Classic  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:04:11am

re: #1063 Varek Raith

Jury rigging any weapon with a twist tie is LOLFAIL.

MacGyver could do it!

1066 webevintage  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:04:14am

I guess could be filed under "you have got to be kidding me".
[Link: www.readthehook.com...]

"No one can accuse Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli of shying from controversy. In his first four months in office, Cuccinelli directed public universities to remove sexual orientation from their anti-discrimination policies, attacked the Environmental Protection Agency, and filed a lawsuit challenging federal health care reform. Now, it appears, he may be preparing a legal assault on an embattled proponent of global warming theory who used to teach at the University of Virginia, Michael Mann.

In papers sent to UVA April 23, Cuccinelli’s office commands the university to produce a sweeping swath of documents relating to Mann’s receipt of nearly half a million dollars in state grant-funded climate research conducted while Mann— now director of the Earth System Science Center at Penn State— was at UVA between 1999 and 2005."

Why do I get the feeling that Cuccinelli plans to run for something big in the next few years?

1067 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:04:24am

re: #1064 Guanxi88

It'd make good LiveLeak or youtube material, though. The test-firing, I mean.

Hold my beer and watch this!

1068 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:04:31am

re: #1057 Sigma_x

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

What the big difference in what I originally wrote? You act like I mangled the whole thing.

Because this is a tough room, if you haven't caught on to that fact yet. Broad brushed comments, hyperbole, loosely fashioned quotes, partial statements, out of context statements... they all will be challenged here. It's one of the things at LGF that we pride ourselves on... accuracy.

You seem relaxed and comfortable with framing most of your comments using the parameters above... it doesn't fly here... as you may have noticed. Even our more liberal brethren have tried to clue you in on this.

1069 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:04:44am

re: #1065 Liberal Classic

MacGyver could do it!

Heh...i'm getting more of a "McGruber" feel from our boy SigmaX;)

1070 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:05:23am

re: #1064 Guanxi88

It'd make good LiveLeak or youtube material, though. The test-firing, I mean.

It would at that! But I'll be glad that I'm not there to witness it. re: #1065 Liberal Classic

MacGyver could do it!

MacGyver can do anything! Love Richard Dean Anderson!

1071 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:05:43am

re: #1065 Liberal Classic

MacGyver could do it!

Hell, he could derive an M-1 tank from first principles and two empty soda cans.

1072 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:05:57am

re: #1070 Dragon_Lady

MacGyver can do anything! Love Richard Dean Anderson!

Did you watch Stargate SG1?

1073 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:06:46am

re: #1072 Varek Raith

Did you watch Stargate SG1?

Oh yeah!

1074 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:07:16am

re: #1066 webevintage

I guess could be filed under "you have got to be kidding me".
[Link: www.readthehook.com...]

"No one can accuse Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli of shying from controversy. In his first four months in office, Cuccinelli directed public universities to remove sexual orientation from their anti-discrimination policies, attacked the Environmental Protection Agency, and filed a lawsuit challenging federal health care reform. Now, it appears, he may be preparing a legal assault on an embattled proponent of global warming theory who used to teach at the University of Virginia, Michael Mann.

In papers sent to UVA April 23, Cuccinelli’s office commands the university to produce a sweeping swath of documents relating to Mann’s receipt of nearly half a million dollars in state grant-funded climate research conducted while Mann— now director of the Earth System Science Center at Penn State— was at UVA between 1999 and 2005."

Why do I get the feeling that Cuccinelli plans to run for something big in the next few years?

Glad that's not my tax dollars at work. 'Course, there's some folk here in Texas whose use of my money causes me concern, but still......

1075 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:07:41am

re: #1073 Dragon_Lady

Oh yeah!

"Sir, we can't name the ship Enterprise"

"Why not?!"

1076 Ericus58  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:08:02am

Celebrating May Day in Greece

Youtube Video
1077 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:08:36am

re: #1075 Varek Raith

"Sir, we can't name the ship Enterprise"

"Why not?!"

I know, I laughed real hard at that one! Like I said, Love that Richard Dean Anderson!

1078 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:08:44am

re: #1070 Dragon_Lady

MacGyver can do anything! Love Richard Dean Anderson!

I do too.
Rugged looking, not pretty.

1079 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:09:04am

re: #1063 Varek Raith

Jury rigging any weapon with a twist tie is LOLFAIL.

Says the guy who uses a butter knife to unscrew the Phillips-head screws on his lightsaber.

1080 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:09:36am

re: #1071 Guanxi88

Hell, he could derive an M-1 tank from first principles and two empty soda cans.

Speaking of fire power and guns..I have Star Wars on in the background..( Don't ask me why..I really need to change the channel)
Don't anybody in the future have a fucking gun? What the hell is up with light sabers? Give me a Tommy gun and I'll rule the Universe...
/

1081 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:10:16am

re: #1080 HoosierHoops

Speaking of fire power and guns..I have Star Wars on in the background..( Don't ask me why..I really need to change the channel)
Don't anybody in the future have a fucking gun? What the hell is up with light sabers? Give me a Tommy gun and I'll rule the Universe...
/

they're so uncivilized...

1082 tradewind  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:10:24am

Mayday! Mayday!

1083 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:10:33am

re: #1068 Walter L. Newton

Because this is a tough room, if you haven't caught on to that fact yet. Broad brushed comments, hyperbole, loosely fashioned quotes, partial statements, out of context statements... they all will be challenged here. It's one of the things at LGF that we pride ourselves on... accuracy.

You seem relaxed and comfortable with framing most of your comments using the parameters above... it doesn't fly here... as you may have noticed. Even our more liberal brethren have tried to clue you in on this.

You're 1 of about 2 or 3 die-hards who populate this board on an almost constant, minute-by-minute basis. And, by virtue of that, you purport to speak for everyone? Because YOU deem me to "paint with a broad brush" and consider what I post to be "hyperbole", and that I utilize "loosely fashioned quotes", "partial statements" etc. etc. Simply because you disagree with me? You have no substance behind your arguments. You can't defend the indefensible, so you go after the way I say it.

I find 9/10th of the things that come out of your mouth to be laughably stupid. But I don't go out of my way to parse through your every post in an effort to find fault with them. I just don't care enough to.

1084 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:10:44am

re: #1080 HoosierHoops

Speaking of fire power and guns..I have Star Wars on in the background..( Don't ask me why..I really need to change the channel)
Don't anybody in the future have a fucking gun? What the hell is up with light sabers? Give me a Tommy gun and I'll rule the Universe...
/

Cause a Jedi or Sith would use the Force to stop your bullets.
:P

1085 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:11:19am

re: #1078 reine.de.tout

Reine... got your email. I have to get a finding to mount the piece of turquoise I'm using for you chain and pendant, and I have to go down hill on Tues. to do some banking, so I'm going to stop by one of my lapidary supply places then... so, your necklace should be in the mail by week end, next week.

1086 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:12:58am

re: #1083 Sigma_x

...says the dude who spent a half-hour arguing a subject on which he knew absolutely nothing...good one. thanks for making it personal and fulfilling your own accusations.

1087 pingjockey  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:13:16am

Mornin', afternoon, evening all. Quite crappy weather here in eastern WA. Winds gusting to 35 and snow just up on the ridge! Me and the 10 yr old were going to go see the RC airplane competition and damn near got blown away.

1088 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:14:19am

re: #1078 reine.de.tout

I do too.
Rugged looking, not pretty.

Oh, I think he's pretty! I had such a crush on him for the longest time and I was real happy to see him on Stargate SG1!*SIGH*

1089 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:14:30am

re: #1083 Sigma_x

You're 1 of about 2 or 3 die-hards who populate this board on an almost constant, minute-by-minute basis. And, by virtue of that, you purport to speak for everyone? Because YOU deem me to "paint with a broad brush" and consider what I post to be "hyperbole", and that I utilize "loosely fashioned quotes", "partial statements" etc. etc. Simply because you disagree with me? You have no substance behind your arguments. You can't defend the indefensible, so you go after the way I say it.

I find 9/10th of the things that come out of your mouth to be laughably stupid. But I don't go out of my way to parse through your every post in an effort to find fault with them. I just don't care enough to.

Right... got it... this may be hard for you to understand, but I am not on LFG at a minute by minute basis, you see, I have a real job like most people, 2 kids, a domestic partner, 3 cats, two dogs, as much as you would like to believe that I live on here for your comments... please...

Oh... by the way, just to point out how you proved my point... the statement by you... "You're 1 of about 2 or 3 die-hards who populate this board on an almost constant, minute-by-minute basis"

Hyperbole. (you starting to catch on?)

1090 Ericus58  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:14:40am

re: #1087 pingjockey

Mornin', afternoon, evening all. Quite crappy weather here in eastern WA. Winds gusting to 35 and snow just up on the ridge! Me and the 10 yr old were going to go see the RC airplane competition and damn near got blown away.

Heh! It was windy last weekend for the wife and I in Yakima visiting family too. Saturday was a-blowin' but Sunday turned out nice.

1091 pingjockey  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:14:50am

re: #1077 Dragon_Lady
So does my better half. She also likes Mark Harmon. That salt and pepper hair drives her nuts!

1092 austin_blue  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:15:27am

re: #1067 Varek Raith

Hold my beer and watch this!

Love the new Avatar.

It's Ripley approved!

1093 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:15:39am

Arizona Illegal Immigration law fixed, and how I stopped being a tool.

1094 Liberal Classic  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:16:04am

re: #1083 Sigma_x

I find 9/10th of the things that come out of your mouth to be laughably stupid.

Maybe so, but by this standard you are ahead of Walter by about 10%.

1095 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:16:15am

re: #1091 pingjockey

So does my better half. She also likes Mark Harmon. That salt and pepper hair drives her nuts!

Mark Harmon! Another one of my TV heart throbs!

1096 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:16:46am

I have a evening shift tonight... so... a little nap... maybe catch you on the overnight... or maybe I will wireless blog from my car, and work, and the bathroom and the parking lot and while I'm fucking and taking a shower... hell... I'm on here minute by minute.

1097 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:16:46am

re: #1086 Aceofwhat?

...says the dude who spent a half-hour arguing a subject on which he knew absolutely nothing...good one. thanks for making it personal and fulfilling your own accusations.

Fuck are you talking about? I "spent 1/2 an hour talking about a subject I know nothing about?" Because I don't subscribe to gun magazines or shit like that? You're another one.

The point I was originally trying to make, the point neither of you Grand-High Puba's of Upper Butt-Crack have even attempted to address, is that I believe (and this is just my opinion) that any gun other than a simple handgun, a hunting rifle or a shotgun should be not only illegal, but the punishment for having them severe. If you disagree with that, well, what are you gonna do.

I don't have to know anything about guns to hold that opinion.

1098 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:17:02am

re: #1094 Liberal Classic

Maybe so, but by this standard you are ahead of Walter by about 10%.

*chortle*

1099 pingjockey  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:17:17am

re: #1090 Ericus58

The big Apple Blossom Parade is today in Wenatchee. The wife is flipping out. She coaches the flag team at the local HS and the wind will just raise hell with the girls trying to do their routines. It could be worse, my mom talked to here relatives in Arkansas yesterday and they had to go to the basement 3 different times because of the tornado sirens.

1100 austin_blue  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:17:51am

re: #1078 reine.de.tout

I do too.
Rugged looking, not pretty.

Reine! How's the Roi doing? Hanging in there?

And good afternoon to you, dear one.

1101 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:18:30am

re: #1094 Liberal Classic

Maybe so, but by this standard you are ahead of Walter by about 10%.

Thanks... (I think? :)

1102 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:18:31am

re: #1096 Walter L. Newton

I have a evening shift tonight... so... a little nap... maybe catch you on the overnight... or maybe I will wireless blog from my car, and work, and the bathroom and the parking lot and while I'm fucking and taking a shower... hell... I'm on here minute by minute.

You're also expected to blog in your sleep.
:)

1103 pingjockey  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:18:39am

re: #1097 Sigma_x
That 2nd Amendment is a real pain in the ass ain't it?

1104 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:19:07am

re: #1099 pingjockey

The big Apple Blossom Parade is today in Wenatchee. The wife is flipping out. She coaches the flag team at the local HS and the wind will just raise hell with the girls trying to do their routines. It could be worse, my mom talked to here relatives in Arkansas yesterday and they had to go to the basement 3 different times because of the tornado sirens.

Been there, done that... even had to do it in Denver 7 years ago... most fun was Texas...

Got to nap...

1105 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:19:32am

re: #1104 Walter L. Newton

Been there, done that... even had to do it in Denver 7 years ago... most fun was Texas...

Got to nap...

Sleep tight!

1106 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:19:34am

re: #1097 Sigma_x

Fuck are you talking about? I "spent 1/2 an hour talking about a subject I know nothing about?" Because I don't subscribe to gun magazines or shit like that? You're another one.

The point I was originally trying to make, the point neither of you Grand-High Puba's of Upper Butt-Crack have even attempted to address, is that I believe (and this is just my opinion) that any gun other than a simple handgun, a hunting rifle or a shotgun should be not only illegal, but the punishment for having them severe. If you disagree with that, well, what are you gonna do.

I don't have to know anything about guns to hold that opinion.

i'm another what?

and, dear Lord, what is the difference between a semiautomatic thirty-ought-six hunting rifle and an AR-15 hunting rifle? regale me, please...

(oh wait. you have no fucking clue. i'll pause for 15 minutes while you scurry around google and wikipedia in a tizzy. i have a fresh load of laundry to fold anyway.)

1107 jaunte  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:19:50am

Anyone who buys an LGF Cookbook is free to express an opinion about gun ownership, or what have you.
[Link: lgfcookbook.blogspot.com...]

1108 pingjockey  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:19:50am

re: #1104 Walter L. Newton
Later, have a good nap. Naps are good.

1109 Ericus58  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:22:12am

re: #1099 pingjockey

The big Apple Blossom Parade is today in Wenatchee. The wife is flipping out. She coaches the flag team at the local HS and the wind will just raise hell with the girls trying to do their routines. It could be worse, my mom talked to here relatives in Arkansas yesterday and they had to go to the basement 3 different times because of the tornado sirens.

Man, I feel for you and the family. Hope all turns out well and stay safe.
I love our trips east of the passes, family in Ellensburg and Yakima. Good Times indeed.
This year we are switching our Leavenworth time from Christmas Lighting to the Octoberfest... and yes, got the alpine hat with pins ready ;)

1110 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:22:13am

re: #1107 jaunte

Anyone who buys an LGF Cookbook is free to express an opinion about gun ownership, or what have you.
[Link: lgfcookbook.blogspot.com...]

It's in the mail!
Nice art work you stud!

1111 Guanxi88  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:22:14am

re: #1092 austin_blue

Love the new Avatar.

It's Ripley approved!

My other favorite fictional corporations:

CHOAM
Tyrell Corporation
Spacing Guild
YYD
Matsumara Fishworks

1112 austin_blue  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:23:22am

re: #1106 Aceofwhat?

i'm another what?

and, dear Lord, what is the difference between a semiautomatic thirty-ought-six hunting rifle and an AR-15 hunting rifle? regale me, please...

(oh wait. you have no fucking clue. i'll pause for 15 minutes while you scurry around google and wikipedia in a tizzy. i have a fresh load of laundry to fold anyway.)

The AR-15 is for shit as an elk gun.

;-)

1113 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:23:36am

re: #1111 Guanxi88

My other favorite fictional corporations:

CHOAM
Tyrell Corporation
Spacing Guild
YYD
Matsumara Fishworks

MR. SPARKLE!

1114 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:24:07am

re: #1111 Guanxi88

Czerka Corporation
Mr. Plow
Capsule Corporation

1115 Liberal Classic  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:24:34am

re: #1111 Guanxi88


YYD

Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems?

1116 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:25:11am

re: #1112 austin_blue

The AR-15 is for shit as an elk gun.

;-)

well, supposedly if you can just super-glue a few parts together, you can spray bullets willy-nilly...or so i hear.../

1117 pingjockey  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:25:17am

re: #1109 Ericus58

Hah! Tourist central! I scedule any work in Leavenworth for the 1st of the week. Trying to drive around that place after Wednesday is nuts!

1118 jaunte  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:26:20am

re: #1111 Guanxi88

Presteign.

1119 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:26:42am

re: #1114 Athens Runaway

Czerka Corporation
Mr. Plow
Capsule Corporation

KAME~HAME~HAAAA!!!!!

1120 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:26:58am

re: #1083 Sigma_x

You're 1 of about 2 or 3 die-hards who populate this board on an almost constant, minute-by-minute basis. And, by virtue of that, you purport to speak for everyone? Because YOU deem me to "paint with a broad brush" and consider what I post to be "hyperbole", and that I utilize "loosely fashioned quotes", "partial statements" etc. etc. Simply because you disagree with me? You have no substance behind your arguments. You can't defend the indefensible, so you go after the way I say it.

I find 9/10th of the things that come out of your mouth to be laughably stupid. But I don't go out of my way to parse through your every post in an effort to find fault with them. I just don't care enough to.

Hm. You don't care enough to make an argument to counter what Walter says.
But you do care enough to post insults toward Walter.
Interesting.

1121 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:27:10am

re: #1106 Aceofwhat?

i'm another what?

and, dear Lord, what is the difference between a semiautomatic thirty-ought-six hunting rifle and an AR-15 hunting rifle? regale me, please...

(oh wait. you have no fucking clue. i'll pause for 15 minutes while you scurry around google and wikipedia in a tizzy. i have a fresh load of laundry to fold anyway.)

My point is... I don't give a shit what the difference is. I know that the AR-15 is the civilian version of the M-16. And your average citizen does not need a military grade weapon. It's bad for society.

Republicans would have them stay legal, legalize more semi-automatic weapons, more guns, more guns, more guns.

Which is just one of the many, many reasons that republicans = dickheads (how's that for a broad brush?)

You got a segment of society that lives out in the country in Wyoming or wherever, with about 1 person for every 2 or 3 square miles, and they think the 2nd amendment means they should have access to any gun that's invented. Whereas the millions upon millions of people that live in the cities are sick of gang-bangers doing drive-by's with MAC-10's and spraying innocent kids and cops at random. It's as simple as that.

1122 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:27:47am

re: #1107 jaunte

Anyone who buys an LGF Cookbook is free to express an opinion about gun ownership, or what have you.
[Link: lgfcookbook.blogspot.com...]

I just ordered 2 copies! :-)

1123 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:27:50am

re: #1116 Aceofwhat?

well, supposedly if you can just super-glue a few parts together, you can spray bullets willy-nilly...or so i hear.../

Or, you could duct tape a make shift grenade launcher onto it. Right next to the katana bayonet.

1124 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:28:12am

re: #1122 Dragon_Lady

I just ordered 2 copies! :-)

You won't be disappointed!

1125 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:30:03am

re: #1123 Varek Raith

Or, you could duct tape a make shift grenade launcher onto it. Right next to the katana bayonet.

I am intrigued by your ideas and wish to subscribe to your sales catalog.

1126 pingjockey  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:30:14am

I think my 'puter has said ENOUGH! I keep getting the spinning wheel of death.

1127 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:30:18am

Well crap..This long thread is hanging up..
I'll pulling out my new HP Elitebook and plugging it in to the network...
See you in a few Lizards

1128 austin_blue  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:30:29am

re: #1115 Liberal Classic

Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems?

"It's Big-Boo-Tay!!"

1129 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:30:33am

re: #1120 reine.de.tout

Hm. You don't care enough to make an argument to counter what Walter says.
But you do care enough to post insults toward Walter.
Interesting.

Yep. That about covers it.

1130 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:30:57am

re: #1124 reine.de.tout

You won't be disappointed!

Oh, I'm quite sure of that! I'll probably be ordering more later in the year, Xmas is coming you know and I have lots of family! ;)

1131 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:32:16am

Anyway, Gun Menorahs....

Too cool.

1132 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:32:50am

re: #1121 Sigma_x

My point is... I don't give a shit what the difference is. I know that the AR-15 is the civilian version of the M-16. And your average citizen does not need a military grade weapon. It's bad for society.

Republicans would have them stay legal, legalize more semi-automatic weapons, more guns, more guns, more guns.

Which is just one of the many, many reasons that republicans = dickheads (how's that for a broad brush?)

You got a segment of society that lives out in the country in Wyoming or wherever, with about 1 person for every 2 or 3 square miles, and they think the 2nd amendment means they should have access to any gun that's invented. Whereas the millions upon millions of people that live in the cities are sick of gang-bangers doing drive-by's with MAC-10's and spraying innocent kids and cops at random. It's as simple as that.

Sigma...what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone online is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

1133 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:32:56am

re: #12 WindUpBird

he's a gay cheating muslim foreigner manchurian candidate black separatist satanic marxist communist leninist socialist dictator usurper xenomorph

You left out 'white' also.
/Which he is.

1134 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:33:25am

Heck, I was away for a bit and missed some things:

re: #689 Rightwingconspirator

Hi RDT!
How are sales?

Looks like 7 copies sold thus far. Volume 1 sold more than 100 copies. I hope this one does just as well; it's by far a better book.

re: #1085 Walter L. Newton

Reine... got your email. I have to get a finding to mount the piece of turquoise I'm using for you chain and pendant, and I have to go down hill on Tues. to do some banking, so I'm going to stop by one of my lapidary supply places then... so, your necklace should be in the mail by week end, next week.

Looking forward to it, please answer the email? Thanks.


re: #1100 austin_blue

Reine! How's the Roi doing? Hanging in there?

And good afternoon to you, dear one.

He's doing well, no sign of masked SWAT teams on his rig!
Thanks for asking.

1135 Renaissance_Man  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:33:35am

re: #1066 webevintage

Cuccinelli is also a birther, who doesn't want to get a SSN for his son because the government will track him with it.

Little does he realise that his son had a rectal microchip inserted at birth by government-controlled doctors and they don't need the SSN to track him.

1136 austin_blue  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:34:06am

re: #1120 reine.de.tout

Hm. You don't care enough to make an argument to counter what Walter says.
But you do care enough to post insults toward Walter.
Interesting.

Reine-

Check my #1100.

Thanks-
A_B

1137 jaunte  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:35:10am

re: #1134 reine.de.tout

2565 users currently on line, we should be able to sell more than 7 books!

1138 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:35:18am

re: #1132 Aceofwhat?

Sigma...what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone online is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Wow, you just totally made hash of my argument. Good on you!

It's basically, "You're stupid because I said you are."

Well done, sir!

1139 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:35:23am

re: #1136 austin_blue

Reine-

Check my #1100.

Thanks-
A_B

Saw it, screwed up the formatting but answered:
re: #1134 reine.de.tout

1140 Liberal Classic  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:35:34am

How could we forget Cyberdyne Systems.

1141 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:35:37am

re: #1135 Renaissance_Man

Cuccinelli is also a birther, who doesn't want to get a SSN for his son because the government will track him with it.

Little does he realise that his son had a rectal microchip inserted at birth by government-controlled doctors and they don't need the SSN to track him.

Personally, I am all for a chip implant, RFID, 'X' in my head, or anything of the sort that makes my purchases faster and easier. The only worry I have is when my head gets hacked off in an indentity theft case. Mark the beast baby, BRING IT!

1142 austin_blue  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:35:58am

re: #1136 austin_blue

Reine-

Check my #1100.

Thanks-
A_B

Oops! Never mind....

1143 pingjockey  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:36:01am

re: #1121 Sigma_x

Those gang bangers did not buy those guns legally! You have to have a license and go through an extensive background check to own an automatic weapon legally.

1144 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:36:49am

This thread is making the re: #1140 Liberal Classic

How could we forget Cyberdyne Systems.

Or Halliburton/Blackwater in "Avatar," for that matter!

1145 pingjockey  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:37:02am

re: #1140 Liberal Classic

The Hauptman Cartel. They build starships.

1146 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:37:20am

re: #1144 Athens Runaway

This thread is making the

Or Halliburton/Blackwater in "Avatar," for that matter!

Have no idea where the "this thread is making the" part came from.

1147 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:37:58am

re: #1143 pingjockey

Those gang bangers did not buy those guns legally! You have to have a license and go through an extensive background check to own an automatic weapon legally.

The simple fact that citizens can have access to them - period - is enough for me to think that they should be outlawed.

Whether they're inner-city gang-bangers or some right-wing survivalist "Turner Diary" wack-jobs out in the woods being able to get hold of them, they shouldn't be around. Period.

1148 tradewind  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:37:58am

re: #1099 pingjockey
In and out of the closet all morning, and it has nothing to do with my sexual orientation.//
We're frigging surrounded here. Tornadoes to the left of me, flooding to the right.......

1149 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:38:19am

re: #1137 jaunte

2565 users currently on line, we should be able to sell more than 7 books!

*sigh*
I would think so.
Here's a link:

It has to be purchased through the "lulu" button (the ORANGE one for Volume 2).

Anyone reading who is interested, please take a look! There is no requirement that you be a registered LGF user. There is a preview feature so you can see the covers and the first few pages of the cookbook.

The profits will be split 50/50 between LGF and Soldier's Angels, a non-partisan effort and a very worthy cause.

1150 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:38:23am

Period.

1151 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:38:40am

Don't forget the Guild Navigators.

/filthy unions, consuming all the spice

1152 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:39:34am

re: #1138 Sigma_x

Wow, you just totally made hash of my argument. Good on you!

It's basically, "You're stupid because I said you are."

Well done, sir!

eh...it's closer to "i don't need to do any actual work to point out how stupid that was, because no one needs the help except you, and at the moment you couldn't see the color green if you laid facedown on the 18th fairway at Sawgrass"

more like that.

1153 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:39:37am

BBS, My furry boss is making demands and I have to go see what she wants. *sigh*

1154 pingjockey  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:39:41am

re: #1147 Sigma_x
Do you have any idea how many gun laws are currently on the books? Also any decent machinist with a lathe can fix your semi-auto to an auto.

1155 Liberal Classic  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:40:04am

re: #1145 pingjockey

What was the name of the company Ripley worked for in Alien? I can't remember?

1156 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:40:06am

And with that, I bid you farewell, so-long, auf wiedersahan, adieu.

Adieu, adieu, to you and you and you.

1157 tradewind  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:40:16am

re: #827 austin_blue
How long does it take you to finish the Saturday?
I'm lucky if I'm done with it by Sunday.
Wish they were all like Sundays. Mondays= For Dummies, Saturdays=tearmyhairout.

1158 pingjockey  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:40:25am

re: #1148 tradewind

That sucks. IIRC, WA state has had one documented tornado, ever.

1159 Athens Runaway  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:40:38am

re: #1155 Liberal Classic

What was the name of the company Ripley worked for in Alien? I can't remember?

Weyland-Yutani.

1160 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:40:40am

re: #1148 tradewind

In and out of the closet all morning, and it has nothing to do with my sexual orientation.//
We're frigging surrounded here. Tornadoes to the left of me, flooding to the right...

yikes...stay safe!

1161 Renaissance_Man  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:41:23am

re: #1153 Dragon_Lady

BBS, My furry boss is making demands and I have to go see what she wants. *sigh*

Don't give in to any demands from a furry!!! Good lord woman, think of the children!

1162 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:41:50am

It's too easy around here with the wing-nuts on this board.

Seriously.

'taters.

1163 pingjockey  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:41:52am

re: #1155 Liberal Classic
No, it's a series by David Weber. The main character is a female Horatio Nelson, Honor Harrington. I can't remember the company Ripley worked for either.

1164 Liberal Classic  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:42:02am

re: #1147 Sigma_x

The simple fact that citizens can have access to them - period - is enough for me to think that they should be outlawed.

Because outlawing something means citizens won't have access.

1165 jaunte  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:43:11am

re: #1164 Liberal Classic

Doesn't everyone drive the posted speed limit?

1166 Liberal Classic  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:43:24am

re: #1163 pingjockey
I looked it up. I never played Eve. Looks interesting, but I heard it had a steep learning curve. Also, I need a new gaming rig.

1167 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:43:36am

re: #448 Cato the Elder

What's your sperm count?

Just curious.

ROFL!!

That was pretty funny.

1168 tradewind  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:43:44am

re: #1158 pingjockey
We adjust to living with 'em, like mosquitoes.
But no network television since wee hours.... they do an excellent early warning/complete tracking job.
The problem with this system is that it's going to last all day and into the night. Usually, it's an in-and-out, quick-and-dirty situation.
Gonna be a long night, and a bummer for a bride and groom I know....

1169 pingjockey  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:43:53am

re: #1164 Liberal Classic
Of course. More laws or outlawing some things equals more safety. Ask the Brits and the Aussies how well that gun ban has worked out. The UK was also talking about a knife ban!

1170 pingjockey  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:44:52am

re: #1168 tradewind
Thoughts and prayers to you and yours.

1171 austin_blue  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:44:56am

re: #1157 tradewind

How long does it take you to finish the Saturday?
I'm lucky if I'm done with it by Sunday.
Wish they were all like Sundays. Mondays= For Dummies, Saturdays=tearmyhairout.

About 45 minutes today. Tough but fair.

1172 Renaissance_Man  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:45:02am

re: #1169 pingjockey

Of course. More laws or outlawing some things equals more safety. Ask the Brits and the Aussies how well that gun ban has worked out. The UK was also talking about a knife ban!

Okay, while I have no information on the UK system, the Australian gun ban has worked very, very well. I realise that some purported academics opine otherwise. They are wrong.

1173 Liberal Classic  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:45:13am

re: #1163 pingjockey
I think I've read one or two of Weber's novels. They're kind of hard sci fi with a naval focus?

1174 tradewind  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:45:18am

re: #965 darthstar
Wow. You gave him that much time?//

1175 pingjockey  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:45:47am

re: #1166 Liberal Classic
What? There's a game? This is about 15 books, I think. I'm totally hooked.

1176 tradewind  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:45:58am

re: #1171 austin_blue
You finish the Sat times xword in 45 minutes?
I'm in awe, seriously.

1177 austin_blue  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:46:40am

re: #1155 Liberal Classic

What was the name of the company Ripley worked for in Alien? I can't remember?

Varek is using it as her avatar.

Clever boots.

1178 ~Fianna  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:46:41am

re: #1140 Liberal Classic

How could we forget Cyberdyne Systems.

Umbrella Corporation.

1179 pingjockey  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:46:49am

re: #1172 Renaissance_Man
Really? I thought they'd had an upsurge in the bad guys having guns and the law abiding not.

1180 Liberal Classic  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:46:53am

re: #1175 pingjockey
I landed on an Eve gamer clan named after the corp from Weber's novel. Eve is a space trade/warfare online game.

1181 tradewind  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:47:04am

re: #1170 pingjockey
Thanks. We're high so no flooding problems, but we've had almost ten inches of rain in less than twelve hours, so parts of the city are a mess.

1182 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:47:05am

I'm back! The new HP notebook with the vPro dual core is eating up this thread with no problems...So far...

1183 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:47:51am

re: #1177 austin_blue

Varek is using it as her avatar.

Clever boots.

Varek is a her???

1184 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:48:04am

Wow. I can't even begin to catch up on the thread. So I will depart.
Later all.

1185 pingjockey  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:48:17am

re: #1173 Liberal Classic
Yep. To me it's like the teens or 20s with the naval build up prior to WWII set like 3000 years ahead. The baddies are Mesa and Manpower Inc. who do genetic slavery.

1186 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:48:28am

re: #1161 Renaissance_Man

Don't give in to any demands from a furry!!! Good lord woman, think of the children!

Turns out all she wanted was to play with the broom, she really loves to be swept by a broom and poked in the belly with it! Sometimes I wonder about that. For a cat she sure does like to make demands to play! She's happy for the moment so I'm free to get back to typing.*sigh*

1187 Kragar  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:48:33am

re: #1180 Liberal Classic

I landed on an Eve gamer clan named after the corp from Weber's novel. Eve is a space trade/warfare online game.


Played it for about 2 months before I got bored

1188 pingjockey  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:48:48am

re: #1180 Liberal Classic
Aha. Thanks.

1189 pingjockey  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:49:45am

re: #1181 tradewind
The Derby looks like it could be run underwater!

1190 austin_blue  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:50:27am

re: #1176 tradewind

You finish the Sat times xword in 45 minutes?
I'm in awe, seriously.

You do them every day for twenty five years...

1191 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:51:04am

re: #1183 Aceofwhat?

Varek is a her???

Huh??? Really???

1192 ~Fianna  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:53:50am

re: #1190 austin_blue

You do them every day for twenty five years...

*nod* When I was regularly doing the NYT crossword (or the crossword from any paper) you start to recognize the patterns. Each puzzle writer tends to have "fallback" words that they use, especially to complete crosses that have odd letters or odd letter combinations.

1193 pingjockey  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:54:29am

BBIAW

1194 Mocking Jay  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:54:36am

re: #1187 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Played it for about 2 months before I got bored

Oh god the unending boredom of mining asteroids.

Combat wasn't all that much better.

1195 Renaissance_Man  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:54:38am

re: #1179 pingjockey

Really? I thought they'd had an upsurge in the bad guys having guns and the law abiding not.

Not at all. Except for a couple of tiny ghetto neighbourhoods, bad guys in Australia rarely carry guns. It is not a gun culture. Guns are not easily available, and there's little need for them. When a couple of drunken idiots get into a fight, they usually use fists, and (sadly with increasing frequency) knives. However, deaths and permanent injuries are much more rare, as is collateral damage, because knives are somewhat less lethal.

I've seen two claims on the effectiveness of the gun ban in Australia, which are as far as I can tell the sources of all subsequent reportings that 'crime is on the rampage'. One is a study by a couple of UK pro-gun academics whose essential position is that the gun ban was not effective because the decrease in gun crime was not statistically significant enough. That may be true by whatever statistical method they used (and I've seen other counterarguments that claim their statistics are bogus, but I don't understand enough statistics), but even they don't deny crime went down. The other claim is by the execrable John Lott, who picked an increase in gun crime in one suburb of one city (while reductions went on everywhere else), to make his claim.

1196 tradewind  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:54:44am

re: #1189 pingjockey
Yeah.... this weather and barely-three- year old cannon bones are not really so compatible.
(Don't get me started...)
Huge odds, btw, but I'd love it if Terry Bradshaw's horse came in.

1197 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:55:00am

re: #1191 Dragon_Lady

Huh??? Really???

i didn't think so...but AustinBlue said "she"...

1198 austin_blue  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:56:02am

re: #1191 Dragon_Lady

Huh??? Really???

I thought so. Am I wrong on that? If so, apologies, if apologies are warranted.

1199 Liberal Classic  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:56:07am

Don't want to slash the thread, but lots of linkage at

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

1200 tradewind  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:56:25am

re: #1192 ~Fianna
They do love ' Eritrea ', I've noticed.
I haven't been seriously working it anywhere near 25 years, so maybe there's hope for me someday.
Only reason I get the Times.

1201 ~Fianna  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:57:11am

re: #1200 tradewind

They do love ' Eritrea ', I've noticed.
I haven't been seriously working it anywhere near 25 years, so maybe there's hope for me someday.
Only reason I get the Times.

I haven't done a real crossword in years. I got hooked on Sudoku.

1202 tradewind  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:57:46am

re: #1184 Oh no...Sand People!
You can't let that stop you. What's the worst that could happen?
Some newbie could slam you for not being able to remember every post, but other than that......
:)

1203 Kragar  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:57:56am

re: #1194 JasonA

Oh god the unending boredom of mining asteroids.

Combat wasn't all that much better.

Or the tedium of having to jump thru 10+ systems, and having some older player gank you for fun because of mandatory PVP

1204 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:58:09am

re: #1198 austin_blue

I thought so. Am I wrong on that? If so, apologies, if apologies are warranted.

well, now i'm not sure! (sorry to make you the focus;)

1205 tradewind  Sat, May 1, 2010 11:59:18am

re: #1190 austin_blue
Not there yet, but hope to be.
It is easier, I admit, than when I first started doing them regularly.

1206 tradewind  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:00:19pm

re: #1201 ~Fianna
I'm numbers -averse, so I haven't gone there.

1207 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:00:32pm

All right Varek, come clean are you a he or a she?

1208 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:01:33pm

re: #1207 Dragon_Lady

All right Varek, come clean are you a he or a she?

Awwww shoot. He/She has logged out! darn, guess I'll never know.

1209 ~Fianna  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:01:50pm

re: #1206 tradewind

I'm numbers -averse, so I haven't gone there.

They're strangely addictive little puzzles. You don't really have to do anything with the numbers, so don't let that keep you away.

I love logic games.

1210 tradewind  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:05:25pm

re: #1209 ~Fianna
I'll do it, thanks.

1211 Ericus58  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:06:36pm

Next Call of Duty game revealed

[Link: videogames.yahoo.com...]

1212 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:06:54pm

re: #589 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'd like to see a politician say, "You're damn right I screwed her. Have you seen her?"

I assume Clinton would have done that in regards to Lewinsky, if he had had any idea that a pro forma denial was nearly going to derail his presidency.

1213 tradewind  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:07:59pm

Ahhh,dammit. Roofs peeled back and trees down in N. MS and heading this way.
I'm out, before my power is....

1214 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:08:30pm

re: #598 MandyManners

I posted a link recently about a Taliban mucka-muck who said that they'll wait out the surge and then come roaring back once we withdraw next year.

That probably is the plan. Eventually, the foreigners always leave.

1215 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:08:56pm

re: #599 Spare O'Lake

Nothing at all to do with Islam.

??

1216 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:08:57pm

re: #1213 tradewind

Ahhh,dammit. Roofs peeled back and trees down in N. MS and heading this way.
I'm out, before my power is...

Good Luck, I'll pray for the weather god to let up on you....

1217 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:10:12pm

re: #606 iceweasel

Yeah. I don't buy it.
I'm only surprised it took this long for someone to push the "Obama is cheating!' meme-- but that's because the more fevered swamps have been pushing the "Obama is GAY!" meme for much longer.

A few people did push a story about Obama and this aide during the campaign, but mostly the Obama-haterz have been running with the "he's gay!" lie. My favourite entry in that particular lunatic fest was a post by someone who found it awfully suspicious that none of Obama's ex-girlfriends popped up in tabloids, and so concluded that the reason is...he's gay.

So, why haven't any of his ex-boyfriends popped up in the tabloids, then?

1218 Kragar  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:10:43pm

re: #1211 Ericus58

Next Call of Duty game revealed

[Link: videogames.yahoo.com...]

First look at the 40k MMO next month

1219 webevintage  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:11:14pm

re: #1135 Renaissance_Man

Cuccinelli is also a birther, who doesn't want to get a SSN for his son because the government will track him with it.

Little does he realise that his son had a rectal microchip inserted at birth by government-controlled doctors and they don't need the SSN to track him.

He also does not like boobies either.
The state seal of VA has an exposed boob, but he passed out pins the other day (no taxpayer money spent his office said) with the recently boob exposing lady wearing armored breastplate.

"The original state seal was designed by George Wythe, a signer of the Declaration of Independence, and was first adopted in 1776, according to a Virginia state website. But so much for that."
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

And really if it was good enough for the Founding Fathers it should be good enough for the prudes of today.

1220 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:14:57pm

re: #1219 webevintage

He also does not like boobies either.
The state seal of VA has an exposed boob, but he passed out pins the other day (no taxpayer money spent his office said) with the recently boob exposing lady wearing armored breastplate.

"The original state seal was designed by George Wythe, a signer of the Declaration of Independence, and was first adopted in 1776, according to a Virginia state website. But so much for that."
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

And really if it was good enough for the Founding Fathers it should be good enough for the prudes of today.

if the founding fathers said that boobies were good, i will humbly submit to their wisdom/

1221 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:16:01pm

re: #685 reloadingisnotahobby

OT
Remember the Family of Franco Aguilar a Sargent with the Sevier County
Sheriffs Dept.

Lost his life while responding to a traffic accident on I-70 Thursday night.
As I understand it,Thursday was his 36th birthday.
Leaving a wife and three children.
RIP!Franco

What a tragedy. A good man.

1222 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:16:25pm

As I sit and watch HLN I can see that our sea food eating days are nearing an end, the oil slick is huge and its going to destroy the crab, shrimp and fishing grounds for a long time to come. My heart goes out to all the fishermen whom are going to loose their livelihoods. :(

1223 freetoken  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:16:53pm

From the BNP website (not linked):

BNP Supports Environmental Protection, Opposes Global Warming Hoax

The British National Party is the only party to question the global warming theory and to argue in favour of a reasonable, calm and rational approach to environmental care, Epping Forest parliamentary candidate Pat Richardson told a crowd at a constituency hustings.

How appropriate. As the home of many AGW-deniers, even the Telegraph laments:

There is one party that does fully endorse the rejectionist case, speaking dismissively of the "global warming theory", accusing climate scientists of "fraud, deception and distortion", alleging that it is all a "hoax" created as an excuse to raise taxes, and approvingly quoting prominent sceptics in its literature.

But that party, sadly, is the BNP.

Pity the UK AGW science-deniers, having to rely on the BNP to do their political lifting for them.

1224 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:17:12pm

re: #675 RogueOne

Yes, but that isn't the only problem I have with either. The idea that the government has the right to demand EVERYONE always carry and be prepared to provide evidence of who they are is mistaken. They don't have that right and I don't think we should give it to them.

Really? What is your take on the Arizona situation?

1225 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:18:15pm

re: #693 MandyManners

Reminds me of Nazi Germany and the USSR.

Once again, really? I don't know your take on AZ, Mandy, but for several days people have been scoffing at the idea that there's a problem with people being required to produce ID.

1226 ~Fianna  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:18:57pm

re: #1217 SanFranciscoZionist

So, why haven't any of his ex-boyfriends popped up in the tabloids, then?

Obviously because they're all in Kenya.

////

1227 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:19:12pm

Moving on up!

1228 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:20:48pm

re: #1227 Dragon_Lady

Moving on up!

you're going to miss all of SFZ's catching up!!

1229 Lidane  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:21:03pm

re: #790 prairiefire

Sadistic paternalism. If a woman refuses to view the ultra sound because the pregnancy is due to rape, she must provide paperwork that proves she was raped.

Assholes, the lot of them. It's an utterly inhuman law, IMO.

re: #860 Killgore Trout

From the Moonie Times: Is Obama fomenting a race war?

News flash to the Moonies-- Obama's not the one calling brown people terrorists:

Gov. Brewer: ‘Arizona has been under terrorist attacks’ with ‘all of this illegal immigration’

1230 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:21:44pm

re: #752 MandyManners

It's not just the Middle East but, the ummah, also.

It's not just the ummah, but lots of places in the world. But let's go on pretending that Mohammed invented the idea of marrying little girls.

1231 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:22:17pm

re: #756 Shiplord Kirel

Oh, goddamn ANSWER and their pals.

1232 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:23:42pm

re: #1228 Aceofwhat?

you're going to miss all of SFZ's catching up!!

Oh? Guess I stick around then!

1233 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:24:02pm

re: #775 Shiplord Kirel

Disaster in Stockholm! 'Aroused' rabbits reproduced in tennis club wreckage

There go all those exclusive bunny pedigrees...

That's adorable, somehow. I mean, what the hell? Club fell in, humans all freaked out, let's get out of these cages and do the wild thang! That, after all, is the main point of being a rabbit.

1234 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:25:17pm

re: #795 Rightwingconspirator

I'm off to meet my friend, and get downtown to the ANSWER march.
Have a great Saturday you all.

Enjoy! Bring us alarming pictures! Don't get clobbered by protesters or the police!

1235 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:28:16pm

re: #1234 SanFranciscoZionist

Enjoy! Bring us alarming pictures! Don't get clobbered by protesters or the police!

SFZ he's there now and the crowds are already huge! Don't think for one moment I'm not a teensy bit nervous about him being there! He took a friend (a fellow photographer) along to make me feel a bit better.

1236 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:29:22pm

re: #894 darthstar

He'll be fine. May 1 is a traditional day for immigration rallies. Turnout might be a little higher given the Arizona clusterfuck, but we're talking about immigrant familes here rallying for their rights...not gun-toting teabaggers getting their rocks off on manufactured rage.

ANSWER organizes the ones here in California, and they attract the usual band of merry nuts--but unless Black Bloc turns out, not figuring on much trouble. We'll see.

1237 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:30:39pm

re: #906 Walter L. Newton

And how many days was it until President Obama offered any input and help from the Federal Government for this disaster of "biblical proportions." A week... more... do you know?

I don't know, Walter, but I've learned my lesson on this board about criticizing Presidents for not doing enough when disasters are going on.

1238 Lidane  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:32:39pm

re: #1219 webevintage

He also does not like boobies either.
The state seal of VA has an exposed boob, but he passed out pins the other day (no taxpayer money spent his office said) with the recently boob exposing lady wearing armored breastplate.

Ridiculous. That's almost as bad as when Ashcroft had that statue at the Justice Department covered up.

1239 webevintage  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:36:02pm

re: #1237 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't know, Walter, but I've learned my lesson on this board about criticizing Presidents for not doing enough when disasters are going on.

Well I'm not going to repeat a Republican talking point or contribute to some Obama's Katrina narrative, but here is a timeline of the gulf disaster:
[Link: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

Of course anyone who thinks that the President was "ignoring" what was going on is just being silly.

1240 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:38:51pm

OK, now I'm swimming upstream!

1241 webevintage  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:39:16pm

Another:
[Link: deepseanews.com...]

1242 ~Fianna  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:40:30pm

re: #1237 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't know, Walter, but I've learned my lesson on this board about criticizing Presidents for not doing enough when disasters are going on.

There is also one HUGE difference between this disaster and Katrina. I was watching Katrina spin towards NOLA for 3-4 days before it hit. I knew it was going to be bad, my friends in NOLA knew it was going to be bad and the talking heads on every television station knew it was going to be bad.

The oil rig didn't have the courtesy of putting its explosion on FEMA's schedule a few days in advance.

It does take time to mobilize disaster response. FEMA and Brown had that time and didn't use it.

FWIW, that's only Bush's fault in that he's the one who appointed Brownie to the post and he's also the one who didn't ask for heads to roll when it became clear that FEMA's leadership was asleep at the stick.

It remains to be seen whether or not Obama's administration is going to have the same problem.

1243 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:40:37pm

Huh, I just checked my Karma number and I'm closin in on the 2000 mark!

1244 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:42:03pm

The oil spill is now visible from space! Those poor fishermen! And the poor fishies! Such a bummer.... :(

1245 Donna Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 12:44:51pm

Lunch time! BBL Lizard Folk!

1246 RogueOne  Sat, May 1, 2010 2:13:56pm

re: #1224 SanFranciscoZionist

Really? What is your take on the Arizona situation?

I think their decision is a mistake but I can understand the frustration the people of arizona. Illegal immigration has been a front-burner issue for decades in S. AZ, if the feds aren't going to do something to rectify the issue the people will.

1247 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, May 1, 2010 2:28:07pm

re: #513 What's the matter with Democrats?

I had no idea this site had become a haven for democrats. A little shocked. And I'm not a sir.

hahahahahahahahahahaha

A seething, teeming hive of of

of
of

DEMOCRATS!

1248 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, May 1, 2010 2:31:28pm

re: #703 Dark_Falcon

They're attacking "EVIL Corporations!!1". Like any good leftists, they know that McDonald's poisons people for profit and banks enslave workers.

/must I?

Banks don't enslave workers, they just defraud investors and create nightmarish conflicts of interests Goldman Sachs ya know it's been in a couple of papers :/

1249 Vambo  Sat, May 1, 2010 4:41:35pm

re: #1006 Guanxi88

Ain't that the truth, though. One of the most amazing and wonderful things about people who live in largely free areas is that they are afforded the scope necessary to act consistently on their principles.

Just TRY to take a Texas feminist's pistol from her, or just TRY to persuade a Black Democrat in Houston that he doesn't "need" that particular weapon, and standby for one Hell of an argument.

Free people are armed; on this Left, Right, Royalist, Aristocrat, Communist, and Anarchist all agree, since the right to self-defense (and the means to make that right more than just some words on paper or a high-sounding sentiment) is a fundamental human right.

I can respect that, but that rural perspective comes from the privilege of never having to worry about other people pointing their guns at you -- there aren't many gang wars and drive-by shootings in "largely free areas". I don't know where Sigma_x is coming from, but just sayin'.

1250 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:44:17pm

re: #284 tradewind

Lol.
National Enquirer now has credibility??? I saw an issue of that at the supermarket years ago that claimed a giant asteroid hit an Arizona town killing thousands, and yet, was covered up...
Lol.


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