Raging Duck Congress Passes New START
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In another piece of good news from the Raging Duck Congress, the Senate has passed the “New Start” arms control treaty, 71-26.
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Obdicut Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:02:53pm |
Just so I’m clear, does this raise or lower the possibility that I get to scream “Wolverines?”
//
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Kragar Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:04:28pm |
re: #2 Obdicut
Just so I’m clear, does this raise or lower the possibility that I get to scream “Wolverines?”
//
Yes.
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brookly red Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:05:11pm |
re: #2 Obdicut
Just so I’m clear, does this raise or lower the possibility that I get to scream “Wolverines?”
//
when thinking nukes, no, not so much either way…
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Kragar Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:07:15pm |
re: #4 brookly red
when thinking nukes, no, not so much either way…
Just be prepared to head to the nearest Vault in a calm and orderly manner and remember to trust the Computer.
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BishopX Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:08:51pm |
Any guesses about the fate of the comprehensive test ban treaty next year?
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brookly red Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:10:26pm |
re: #5 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Just be prepared to head to the nearest Vault in a calm and orderly manner and remember to trust the Computer.
I just can’t get excited about lowering the number strategic war heads to the point where we can only destroy the world 4 times instead of 6… I am more worried a bout those pesky tactical nukes. Just my 2 cents.
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What, me worry? Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:18:23pm |
re: #7 brookly red
I just can’t get excited about lowering the number strategic war heads to the point where we can only destroy the world 4 times instead of 6… I am more worried a bout those pesky tactical nukes. Just my 2 cents.
Quack! Quack!
For some inexplicable reason, last weekend, I watched “The Day After” on youtube, the nuclear apocalyptic made-for-tv movie done in 1983… Jason Robard, Jo Beth Williams, John Lithgow was in it, too. Remember that one?
“Thirteen Republicans joined a unanimous Democratic caucus to vote in favor, exceeding the two-thirds majority required by the Constitution.” Lucky 13 baby, lucky 13.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:18:27pm |
re: #7 brookly red
I just can’t get excited about lowering the number strategic war heads to the point where we can only destroy the world 4 times instead of 6… I am more worried a bout those pesky tactical nukes. Just my 2 cents.
a 10-1 advantage to the reds….and I wonder who pays for their decommission and cleanup of the ballistics….would that be us?
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jamesfirecat Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:18:31pm |
You know I’m starting to think this congress is about as “lame” as Douglas Bader was…
It may be “technically correct” but hell if that slows them down any….
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brookly red Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:21:15pm |
re: #9 albusteve
a 10-1 advantage to the reds…and I wonder who pays for their decommission and cleanup of the ballistics…would that be us?
well in that sense better us than oh I don’t know, Iran or Pakistan…
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brookly red Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:25:22pm |
The other thing that concerns me about arms treaties is delivery systems… some times I think we are counting bullets when maybe we should be counting guns? Again just a thought.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:27:23pm |
re: #12 brookly red
The other thing that concerns me about arms treaties is delivery systems… some times I think we are counting bullets when maybe we should be counting guns? Again just a thought.
might you be interested in a new home?
[Link: 2012terra.blogspot.com…]
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Kragar Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:28:02pm |
As weapons go, Nukes are either a detterent or a terror weapon. Their negatives far outweigh any benefits on the battlefield in all but the most extreme of circumstances, and even those conditions are dwindling as technology improves.
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brookly red Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:29:06pm |
re: #13 albusteve
might you be interested in a new home?
[Link: 2012terra.blogspot.com…]
no, If I can’t walk to neighborhood store, bar or pizza shop then what is the point?
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brookly red Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:30:17pm |
re: #14 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
As weapons go, Nukes are either a detterent or a terror weapon. Their negatives far outweigh any benefits on the battlefield in all but the most extreme of circumstances, and even those conditions are dwindling as technology improves.
big nukes deter, little nukes invite. size matters.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:30:40pm |
re: #15 brookly red
no, If I can’t walk to neighborhood store, bar or pizza shop then what is the point?
it’s got a basement pool?
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brookly red Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:31:30pm |
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albusteve Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:31:36pm |
re: #14 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
As weapons go, Nukes are either a detterent or a terror weapon. Their negatives far outweigh any benefits on the battlefield in all but the most extreme of circumstances, and even those conditions are dwindling as technology improves.
don’t forget retribution, an eye for an eye as they say
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albusteve Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:31:59pm |
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brookly red Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:32:17pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:32:18pm |
re: #7 brookly red
I’m not sure we have enough to destroy the world. Certainly enough to kill everybody, but I still think a big ole gray ball’d be orbiting the sun for a while.
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Kragar Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:34:57pm |
re: #19 albusteve
don’t forget retribution, an eye for an eye as they say
As resources become limited, expect more of a “poison the well” approach.
“You might be able to outnumber us in the field, but we’ll burn our lands to radioactive cinder rather than let you have them. Let’s make a deal.”
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albusteve Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:37:31pm |
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engineer cat Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:37:50pm |
Raging Duck Congress Passes New START
…while the Klown Kongress is already waiting in the wings putting on its makeup…
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albusteve Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:38:39pm |
re: #23 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
As resources become limited, expect more of a “poison the well” approach.
“You might be able to outnumber us in the field, but we’ll burn our lands to radioactive cinder rather than let you have them. Let’s make a deal.”
novel idea…some of Alexanders foes did that 2500 years ago
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brookly red Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:39:13pm |
re: #22 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I’m not sure we have enough to destroy the world. Certainly enough to kill everybody, but I still think a big ole gray ball’d be orbiting the sun for a while.
China set a good example… “we have enough to deter”.
What good is negotiating with the Russians who don’t want to get blown up any more than we do?
We need to do more to convince other “ambitious” powers that steeping up to us (with a nuke) is not in their best interests.
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Kragar Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:39:34pm |
re: #26 albusteve
novel idea…some of Alexanders foes did that 2500 years ago
The classics never get old.
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Kragar Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:40:56pm |
South Korean Military Prepares for Largest-Ever Live-Fire Drill
South Korea’s army and air force are preparing to hold their largest-ever live-fire exercise on Thursday near the inter-Korean border, as Seoul remains on high alert for any attacks by North Korea.
A South Korean officer says the drill at the Pocheon firing range, 20 kilometers south of the border, is a response to North Korea’s deadly shelling of South Korea’s Yeonpyeong island last month. South Korean General Ju Eun-shik says Seoul will “completely punish” the North if it retaliates militarily for the drill.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:41:00pm |
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brookly red Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:44:19pm |
re: #29 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
South Korean Military Prepares for Largest-Ever Live-Fire Drill
well here is a good what if question… if the North were to nuke the South, we would?
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reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:46:17pm |
re: #31 brookly red
well here is a good what if question… if the North were to nuke the South, we would?
How about a multiple chose…..
I could get right if it were!!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:46:19pm |
re: #29 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
South Korean Military Prepares for Largest-Ever Live-Fire Drill
There’d be a funny joke there if it was the Chinese.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:47:00pm |
re: #31 brookly red
well here is a good what if question… if the North were to nuke the South, we would?
Bail out Hyundai?
/
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Kragar Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:47:37pm |
re: #31 brookly red
well here is a good what if question… if the North were to nuke the South, we would?
Considering we have troops stationed in South Korea, our treaties would probably consider it as an act of war against the US as well.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:48:32pm |
re: #31 brookly red
well here is a good what if question… if the North were to nuke the South, we would?
maybe the Chinese?….nobody seems to view them as much more than a pain in the ass
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brookly red Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:48:47pm |
re: #32 reloadingisnotahobby
How about a multiple chose…
I could get right if it were!!
OK.
a. nuke em back
b. not nuke em back
c. send a strongly worded letter to the U.N.
d. sell short & buy gold.
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brookly red Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:49:27pm |
re: #35 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Considering we have troops stationed in South Korea, our treaties would probably consider it as an act of war against the US as well.
and so?
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reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:49:35pm |
re: #37 brookly red
b and d…..That’s my final answer!
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Kragar Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:50:59pm |
re: #38 brookly red
and so?
Full alert on all our bases in Japan, all naval assets in the Pacific redirected. South Korea would likely begin an immeadiate counter offensive.
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brookly red Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:51:35pm |
re: #39 reloadingisnotahobby
b and d…That’s my final answer!
Gosh… b and d? where is LVQ when we need him?
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brookly red Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:52:09pm |
re: #40 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Full alert on all our bases in Japan, all naval assets in the Pacific redirected. South Korea would likely begin an immeadiate counter offensive.
and? do we or do we not?
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reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:53:08pm |
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brookly red Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:54:18pm |
re: #43 reloadingisnotahobby
Go Nuke??
Never…Everything short of it!
then what is the point? if we will not use then why bother having them?
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RogueOne Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:55:50pm |
Not to be rude to all the hard work put into this treaty but this feels like a huge story….if it were 1983. I actually heard senators argue that without this treaty we were looking at a nuclear arms race with the Russians. That’s just absurd. I don’t think it’s a horrible deal and we’re all going to suffer terribly, just that the whole thing feels dated. A big hooray signifying nothing.
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reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:55:57pm |
re: #44 brookly red
The question was we…U.S.!!
S.K. can pull the trigger with tacticals and we keep or hands clean…so to speak!
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Kragar Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:56:32pm |
Actually, NK provides one of the rare instances where tactical nuclear weapons are a valid option. In an already nuclear active battlefied, large numbers of ground forces in a small geographic region, constrained by terrain, nukes would be highly effective against them.
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brookly red Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:57:04pm |
re: #46 reloadingisnotahobby
The question was we…U.S.!!
S.K. can pull the trigger with tacticals and we keep or hands clean…so to speak!
do they officially have them?
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albusteve Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:57:36pm |
re: #43 reloadingisnotahobby
Go Nuke??
Never…Everything short of it!
and continue the bloodbath with no clear winner?…I’d have to think about that for about a NY second
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RogueOne Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:57:38pm |
re: #35 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Considering we have troops stationed in South Korea, our treaties would probably consider it as an act of war against the US as well.
That’s the sole purpose of those troops.
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Kragar Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:58:37pm |
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reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:59:04pm |
re: #48 brookly red
do they officially have them?
I would think they have them …..or would have them very quickly!
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albusteve Wed, Dec 22, 2010 1:59:39pm |
re: #45 RogueOne
Not to be rude to all the hard work put into this treaty but this feels like a huge story…if it were 1983. I actually heard senators argue that without this treaty we were looking at a nuclear arms race with the Russians. That’s just absurd. I don’t think it’s a horrible deal and we’re all going to suffer terribly, just that the whole thing feels dated. A big hooray signifying nothing.
me too…what’s the big whoop?….Putin is not exactly a guy you can trust unless maybe there is more in it for them, than for us….security is an illusion
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RogueOne Wed, Dec 22, 2010 2:01:05pm |
re: #51 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
No, we’re advisors.
///
It’s actually pretty harsh when you think about it. Those guys up front are there to get run over and they know it. If it came to war it wouldn’t last long but you wouldn’t want to be anywhere near that line if the shit hit the fan.
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brookly red Wed, Dec 22, 2010 2:01:31pm |
re: #52 reloadingisnotahobby
I would think they have them …or would have them very quickly!
well officially they don’t. so if they just happened to show up, how would that leave us the “clean hands” you speak of?
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RogueOne Wed, Dec 22, 2010 2:01:54pm |
re: #53 albusteve
me too…what’s the big whoop?…Putin is not exactly a guy you can trust unless maybe there is more in it for them, than for us…security is an illusion
They’re not in the business of selling them to crazies but if they wanted to this treaty certainly isn’t going to stop them.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 22, 2010 2:03:22pm |
re: #56 RogueOne
They’re not in the business of selling them to crazies but if they wanted to this treaty certainly isn’t going to stop them.
how do you know?…is every nuke accounted for in Russia and her old stomping grounds?….probably not
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albusteve Wed, Dec 22, 2010 2:04:35pm |
re: #55 brookly red
well officially they don’t. so if they just happened to show up, how would that leave us the “clean hands” you speak of?
deals within deals until Paraguay takes the blame….it was on TV
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brookly red Wed, Dec 22, 2010 2:05:06pm |
well everyday nuclear tech spreads… some day it may be used against us. if the unthinkable happens do we have the balls to do what needs to be done?
it is a y/n question btw…
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reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Dec 22, 2010 2:06:29pm |
re: #55 brookly red
It clearly wouldn’t…
If the North attacks..nukes and all I think no one would deny them using evrything they’ve got. Our Fleet backing them up would be an epic battle.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 22, 2010 2:06:34pm |
re: #56 RogueOne
They’re not in the business of selling them to crazies but if they wanted to this treaty certainly isn’t going to stop them.
stuff like this all over the net for years…
[Link: english.pravda.ru…]
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Ericus58 Wed, Dec 22, 2010 2:08:14pm |
re: #54 RogueOne
It’s actually pretty harsh when you think about it. Those guys up front are there to get run over and they know it. If it came to war it wouldn’t last long but you wouldn’t want to be anywhere near that line if the shit hit the fan.
[Link: us-bases.com…]
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reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Dec 22, 2010 2:08:15pm |
re: #59 brookly red
With the Administration as it is??
I would say no.
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brookly red Wed, Dec 22, 2010 2:08:21pm |
re: #60 reloadingisnotahobby
It clearly wouldn’t…
If the North attacks..nukes and all I think no one would deny them using evrything they’ve got. Our Fleet backing them up would be an epic battle.
no, it would be a dust off if went down…
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brookly red Wed, Dec 22, 2010 2:10:21pm |
re: #63 reloadingisnotahobby
With the Administration as it is??
I would say no.
well I didn’t want to get political on such an important issue… but as much as I don’t like the current admin. I think they would do what was required.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 22, 2010 2:11:01pm |
even wikileaks was involved with this story of rogue nukes….
[Link: english.pravda.ru…]
some scary shit
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reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Dec 22, 2010 2:11:51pm |
re: #65 brookly red
well I didn’t want to get political on such an important issue… but as much as I don’t like the current admin. I think they would do what was required.
I would hope too!!
…Being President can really suck….
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albusteve Wed, Dec 22, 2010 2:12:54pm |
re: #65 brookly red
well I didn’t want to get political on such an important issue… but as much as I don’t like the current admin. I think they would do what was required.
he would have to or resign ahead of a huge shitstorm
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reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Dec 22, 2010 2:14:26pm |
I’m going home !
Have a great weeknd and Merry Christmas!
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