American Family Association’s Bryan Fischer: Liberals ‘Haven’t Taken to Killing People’ Yet

If people like Bryan Fischer ever gain power, the streets will run with blood
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Bryan Fischer, the religious right fanatic who’s connected to many top GOP politicians (Michele Bachmann, Mike Huckabee, Tim Pawlenty, Haley Barbour, and Newt Gingrich have all appeared on his webcast), came out with a masterpiece of incoherent projection yesterday.

Fischer says “liberals” hate freedom of speech, America, and God, and the only difference between them and “Muslims” is that liberals “haven’t taken to killing people.”

However, people who think like Bryan Fischer have taken to killing people; for just one example out of many, see the previous thread about the murderer of Dr. George Tiller. Scott Roeder’s belief system was identical to Bryan Fischer’s; not just similar, but identical in every respect.

And if people with Fischer’s ideology were to ever take power in America, they would institute a reign of terror the likes of which humanity hasn’t seen since the Spanish Inquisition. Fischer’s rant is pure hateful projection.

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394 comments
1 elizajane  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:22:01am

Fischer's argument here is puzzling. Wasn't he supposed to say that liberals differ from Muslims only in that they slaughter millions of people in the womb instead of waiting until they are born? He must have misplaced the last page of his script.

2 jaunte  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:27:29am

Fischer is a foolish thinker and a sloppy writer who has no idea of what liberals think, or how our political system (OMG, the Courts!) is set up to provide balance.

Orwell: "Now, it is clear that the decline of a language must ultimately have political and economic causes: it is not due simply to the bad influence of this or that individual writer. But an effect can become a cause, reinforcing the original cause and producing the same effect in an intensified form, and so on indefinitely. A man may take to drink because he feels himself to be a failure, and then fail all the more completely because he drinks. It is rather the same thing that is happening to the English language. It becomes ugly and inaccurate because our thoughts are foolish, but the slovenliness of our language makes it easier for us to have foolish thoughts."
[Link: www.mtholyoke.edu...]
3 Kronocide  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:30:15am

Religious dominionist whackjobs haven't taken to killing yet.

Oh, wait...

4 Winny Spencer  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:33:28am

Off-topic (duh):

Yummy, freshly baked scones.

Makes for a good friday.

5 Iwouldprefernotto  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:33:33am

Please, can I use my freedom of speech to proclaim that this guy is an idiot? Can't, I'm a liberal.

6 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:34:29am

So I would ask Bryan Fischer if Timothy McVeigh and The Turner Diaries were related to liberalism.

7 Kronocide  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:34:50am

I'm sick and tired of conservatives telling me about liberals. I think I'd rather listen to liberals about liberalism.

Conservatives have taught me a great deal about conservatism. Thank you for the education professors Palin, Bachmann, and Fischer.

8 Four More Tears  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:34:55am

re: #5 Iwouldprefernotto

Please, can I use my freedom of speech to proclaim that this guy is an idiot? Can't, I'm a liberal.

You can, but we'll have to pat you down before we let you in.

9 zora  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:37:30am

Terrorism directed at 'liberal' and 'government' targets since July 2008: An interactive map UPDATED

Since all those isolated incidents involving terroristic violence directed at "liberals" and the "government" keep adding up into a serious trend, we've decided it's time to start keeping systematic track of the problem -- especially because mainstream media seem intent on refusing to recognize the trend.

Here's the text for the 24 events we've enumerated so far:

at this link:
[Link: crooksandliars.com...]

10 Four More Tears  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:37:53am

re: #6 Gus 802

So I would ask Bryan Fischer if Timothy McVeigh and The Turner Diaries were related to liberalism.

Liberalism is so dangerous that it turns Conservatives to violence...

11 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:38:20am

re: #8 JasonA
I can't come in with my Leatherman? Darn.

12 Four More Tears  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:39:55am

re: #11 PhillyPretzel

I can't come in with my Leatherman? Darn.

No. You might succumb to Liberal Rage.

13 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:40:50am

re: #6 Gus 802

So I would ask Bryan Fischer if Timothy McVeigh and The Turner Diaries were related to liberalism.

This guy would probably look you dead in the eye and say 'yes'.

Fischer is a buffoon. The man couldn't think his way out of a wet paper bag, and he's mean-spirited to boot.

The problem is that he gets taken seriously by an alarming number of people with access to political power, which makes him more dangerous than your average dumb-ass.

14 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:41:30am

re: #12 JasonA
Hmm. Maybe Buckley sarcasm, not liberal rage.

15 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:43:27am

The Perpetrators:

Timothy McVeigh
Eric Rudolph
Michael Frederick Griffin
Paul Hill
John C. Salvi III
Shawna Forde
James Charles Kopp
Bruce Turnidge
Scott Roeder
Bob Matthews
Richard Poplawski

See it all at 30 years of right-wing violence in pictures.

16 Four More Tears  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:45:20am

re: #15 Gus 802

They were just crazy people. It doesn't count.

17 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:45:49am

re: #13 SanFranciscoZionist

This guy would probably look you dead in the eye and say 'yes'.

Fischer is a buffoon. The man couldn't think his way out of a wet paper bag, and he's mean-spirited to boot.

The problem is that he gets taken seriously by an alarming number of people with access to political power, which makes him more dangerous than your average dumb-ass.

The typical logic -- make that excuse -- that they use is that since liberals are control of every aspect of American life that we are all products of a liberal upbringing. Most particularly they point at the 60s. Hence, Timothy McVeigh was a product of liberalism ergo a liberal. Right?

18 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:46:04am

re: #15 Gus 802

The Perpetrators:

Timothy McVeigh
Eric Rudolph
Michael Frederick Griffin
Paul Hill
John C. Salvi III
Shawna Forde
James Charles Kopp
Bruce Turnidge
Scott Roeder
Bob Matthews
Richard Poplawski

See it all at 30 years of right-wing violence in pictures.

liberals all. Remember every right winger who commits an act of violence becomes a liberal.

19 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:46:20am

re: #16 JasonA

They were just crazy people. It doesn't count.

They were all a product of a liberal America!

//

20 Four More Tears  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:47:26am

re: #19 Gus 802

They were all a product of a liberal America!

//

Good thing this is always a "center right" country...

21 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:47:46am

By the way I hate to violate Godwin but people like Fischer's rhetoric regarding liberals really is not too different from Streicher and Goebells. It wouldn't shock me if Fischer eventually called for violence against liberals.

22 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:48:00am

National Socialism "has socialism in it" therefore they're a bunch of liberals!

//Channeling Jonah Goldberg.

//

23 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:52:48am
But there isn't any rationality in liberalism. It's not rational. It's not logical. It violates everything we know about history, everything we know about logic, everything we know about morality. All of those are violated by a liberal worldview. So what is that they share in common? Well, I think what they share in common, the reason that they bond together, you know the enemy of my enemy is my friend, they both have in common one enemy: the Judge-Christian system of values, the Judge-Christian system of truth claims and values. They both hate the Judge-Christian tradition with equal passion and so that's what bonds them together.

Projection is right. You could take out liberalism and put in fundamentalism and it would make more sense. Especially if you fixed the damn spell check. "Judge-Christian"? I hope that's supposed to be JUDEO-Christian. "Judge-Christian" is kinda scary.

24 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:54:04am

re: #23 wrenchwench
"Judge-Christian" is kinda scary. That is very scary.

25 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:54:20am

Just to be clear unlike Fischer I'm not exactly blaming the perpetrators listed above on rational conservatives or the remaining old school Republicans.

26 Kragar  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:56:09am

re: #24 PhillyPretzel

"Judge-Christian" is kinda scary. That is very scary.

Better than Sister Christian at least.

27 jaunte  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:56:48am

re: #23 wrenchwench

Fischer did say 'Judeo' in the audio. The transcript is wrong.

28 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:57:00am

re: #25 Gus 802

Just to be clear unlike Fischer I'm not exactly blaming the perpetrators listed above on rational conservatives or the remaining old school Republicans.

Strike "exactly".

29 Tigger2005  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:57:32am

re: #6 Gus 802

So I would ask Bryan Fischer if Timothy McVeigh and The Turner Diaries were related to liberalism.

Why not? My brother thinks the Nazis were Leftists because they have "Socialism" in their name.

30 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:57:49am

re: #26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
True.

31 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:58:02am

re: #20 JasonA

Good thing this is always a "center right" country...

How is it possible for the left to control everything in a center right country?

Nevermind. We're talking about Bryan Fischer here.

The man who hates grizzly bears.

32 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:58:08am

re: #29 Tigger2005

Why not? My brother thinks the Nazis were Leftists because they have "Socialism" in their name.

Right. See #22.

33 Mattand  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:58:17am

re: #23 wrenchwench

Projection is right. You could take out liberalism and put in fundamentalism and it would make more sense. Especially if you fixed the damn spell check. "Judge-Christian"? I hope that's supposed to be JUDEO-Christian. "Judge-Christian" is kinda scary.

I keep thinking of Judge Dredd. Then I think of Stallone playing Judge Dredd. Now I have a voice in my head screaming, "I AM DUH BIBLE!"

34 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:58:27am

re: #21 HappyWarrior

By the way I hate to violate Godwin but people like Fischer's rhetoric regarding liberals really is not too different from Streicher and Goebells. It wouldn't shock me if Fischer eventually called for violence against liberals.

He'd certainly defend it.

35 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:58:58am

Yep, projection is the word. Oftentimes people see the world through their own personal bias and motives. Classic examples of the cheater who accuses their boyfriend/girlfriend of cheating. Sometimes they are cheating, but more times than can be explained by happenstance, the one accusing is the one doing the cheating. Similar pattern. The one who resorts to violence, as opposed to yet another strongly written letter, is the one claiming the other side of wanting to commit murder in the liberal cause.

The other possibility is that Fischer has become so blinded by his hatred that he's willing to lie to himself in order to vilify anyone with opposing viewpoints. make them out to be evil, libel and slander them in order to win.

The first is a subconscious thing, the second is calculating and very nasty. Either way, the guy needs help.

36 Kragar  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:59:50am

re: #31 SanFranciscoZionist

How is it possible for the left to control everything in a center right country?

Nevermind. We're talking about Bryan Fischer here.

The man who hates grizzly bears.

"God gave us dominion over you so quit mauling stupid campers!"

37 Kragar  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:00:49am

re: #33 mattand

I keep thinking of Judge Dredd. Then I think of Stallone playing Judge Dredd. Now I have a voice in my head screaming, "I AM DUH BIBLE!"

The Inquisition, lets begin...

38 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:01:22am

The question I always pose to people who call the Nazis leftist becuase of the "socialist" in National Socialist is "So, North Korea and East Germany are democratic too? For crying out loud, the Socialists and Communists in Germany in the run off for chancellor supported Hindenburg over Hitler. Hindenburg who was as much a product of the old system as you can find.

39 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:01:41am

Again with the Judeo-Christian. Meanwhile most Jews are liberals, so WTH?

40 Mattand  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:01:51am

re: #37 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The Inquisition, lets begin...

No one expects the Judge-Christian Inquisition!

41 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:03:15am

re: #39 marjoriemoon

Again with the Judeo-Christian. Meanwhile most Jews are liberals, so WTH?

Well when people like Fischer say Judeo-Christian, they mean conservative protestant. An English professor of mine of all people made the point that when people say that this is a "Christian Nation" that they are almost universally Protestant.

42 Kragar  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:04:59am

re: #40 mattand

No one expects the Judge-Christian Inquisition!

Youtube Video
43 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:05:03am

re: #38 HappyWarrior

The question I always pose to people who call the Nazis leftist becuase of the "socialist" in National Socialist is "So, North Korea and East Germany are democratic too? For crying out loud, the Socialists and Communists in Germany in the run off for chancellor supported Hindenburg over Hitler. Hindenburg who was as much a product of the old system as you can find.

The old style of Soviet and Chinese Communists were notoriously anti-gay. There are still large remnants of this in Russia and China is hardly open towards the gay community. Cuba being another. Islamic states in the middle east are hardly liberal.

44 Four More Tears  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:05:15am

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Well when people like Fischer say Judeo-Christian, they mean conservative protestant. An English professor of mine of all people made the point that when people say that this is a "Christian Nation" that they are almost universally Protestant.

They doth protest too much.

45 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:05:37am

re: #38 HappyWarrior

The question I always pose to people who call the Nazis leftist becuase of the "socialist" in National Socialist is "So, North Korea and East Germany are democratic too? For crying out loud, the Socialists and Communists in Germany in the run off for chancellor supported Hindenburg over Hitler. Hindenburg who was as much a product of the old system as you can find.

Jon Stewart has a bit about how you can gage how bad things are in a country by the number of lies they have in the official name of the place.

46 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:06:19am

re: #33 mattand

I keep thinking of Judge Dredd. Then I think of Stallone playing Judge Dredd. Now I have a voice in my head screaming, "I AM DUH BIBLE!"

It's not DUH it's DAH.

I AM DAH LAW!

YOU AWK OUR UNDER A PRESS!

47 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:07:36am

Afternoon lizards!

This is just a drive-by post. It's Earth Day so I wanted to post my favorite video clip related to this awesome day.

Youtube Video

Back to work...cheerio!

48 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:07:57am

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Well when people like Fischer say Judeo-Christian, they mean conservative protestant. An English professor of mine of all people made the point that when people say that this is a "Christian Nation" that they are almost universally Protestant.

I can see where he'd leave out the Catholics (although I didn't really think about that), but I think he's trying to buddy up with the Jews against the Muslims. I think his constant use of the phrase is to further alienate Muslims, not to define his brand of Christianity. There is no "Judeo-Christian" sect of Christianity.

49 Kragar  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:08:13am

re: #46 jamesfirecat

It's not DUH it's DAH.

I AM DAH LAW!

YOU AWK OUR UNDER A PRESS!

One on't cross beams gone owt askew on treadle.

50 MarkAM  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:08:24am

re: #21 HappyWarrior

By the way I hate to violate Godwin but people like Fischer's rhetoric regarding liberals really is not too different from Streicher and Goebells. It wouldn't shock me if Fischer eventually called for violence against liberals.

As I mentioned on the page posted yesterday, David Neiwert has done a fantastic job of chronicling what he calls "eliminationist" rhetoric and the mainstreaming of extremist language on the right. He posts about it regularly on Crooks and Liars. His 2009 book on the subject is very good:

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

51 Four More Tears  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:09:11am

re: #47 NJDhockeyfan

Of course.

52 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:09:15am

re: #47 NJDhockeyfan

Dude. That's not cool.

53 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:11:04am

re: #43 Gus 802

The old style of Soviet and Chinese Communists were notoriously anti-gay. There are still large remnants of this in Russia and China is hardly open towards the gay community. Cuba being another. Islamic states in the middle east are hardly liberal.

Yeah, I actually read a memoir about growing up in the Cultural Revolution and the woman who wrote it talked about a memory she had of a lesbian couple being arrested. I guess that's why I always laugh when nuts like Steve King equate support for gay rights with Communism. Communist regimes by and large are socially conservative. Another interesting thing I've learned in Chinese history though. The single child policy is always equated with the worst aspects of Communism but the PRC actually did this in response to the growing economy in the reformist years of Deng Xiaopeng.

54 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:11:36am

re: #52 Gus 802

Dude. That's not cool.

Why not?

55 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:13:27am

re: #48 marjoriemoon

I can see where he'd leave out the Catholics (although I didn't really think about that), but I think he's trying to buddy up with the Jews against the Muslims. I think his constant use of the phrase is to further alienate Muslims, not to define his brand of Christianity. There is no "Judeo-Christian" sect of Christianity.

I think you're right about that. I see people like Fischer if they ever have their way against Muslims will try to do the same to Jews, liberal protestants, and Catholics.

56 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:14:32am

re: #54 NJDhockeyfan

Why not?

Because you said "awesome day" and I was expecting some video related to Earth Day in a positive light. That video is commonly associated with anti Earth Day sentiment and is used to ridicule environmentalists as a bunch of loons. On its own it might be funny but it's the context in which it's presented.

57 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:15:03am

Yes or no?

58 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:15:12am

re: #48 marjoriemoon

I can see where he'd leave out the Catholics (although I didn't really think about that), but I think he's trying to buddy up with the Jews against the Muslims. I think his constant use of the phrase is to further alienate Muslims, not to define his brand of Christianity. There is no "Judeo-Christian" sect of Christianity.

They were using the phrase long before the current obsession with Muslims sparked. I think of it as a form of cultural appropriation and control: "We're part of you, so we all have the same agenda. Like, we read your parts of the Bible too. What? Your religion isn't entirely based on the texts we use? You have a whole post-Biblical tradition? Well, never mind that, I didn't hear a word of it."

59 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:16:00am

re: #45 SanFranciscoZionist

Jon Stewart has a bit about how you can gage how bad things are in a country by the number of lies they have in the official name of the place.

I think there was something like that on the name of Congo in America The Book. Was pretty funny because it was pretty accurate.

60 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:16:13am

re: #56 Gus 802

Because you said "awesome day" and I was expecting some video related to Earth Day in a positive light. That video is commonly associated with anti Earth Day sentiment and is used to ridicule environmentalists as a bunch of loons. On its own it might be funny but it's the context in which it's presented.

Well said, or in a sentence, "Let's point and laugh at the hippies."

All I can say is I'm glad videocameras weren't the norm when I was 20.

61 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:16:34am

re: #56 Gus 802

Because you said "awesome day" and I was expecting some video related to Earth Day in a positive light. That video is commonly associated with anti Earth Day sentiment and is used to ridicule environmentalists as a bunch of loons. On its own it might be funny but it's the context in which it's presented.

Take it easy, it's just a funny video.

Off I go now...

62 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:16:37am

OT but my university's basketball coach has taken a job with the Miami Hurricanes. Truly the end of an era right here. Oh and I had the best spinach and cheese calzone ever for lunch.

63 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:16:57am

re: #58 SanFranciscoZionist

They were using the phrase long before the current obsession with Muslims sparked. I think of it as a form of cultural appropriation and control: "We're part of you, so we all have the same agenda. Like, we read your parts of the Bible too. What? Your religion isn't entirely based on the texts we use? You have a whole post-Biblical tradition? Well, never mind that, I didn't hear a word of it."

Indeed, but this guy is really fond of it. It's manipulative and annoying.

64 Kragar  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:17:25am

Speaking of hate filled bigoted assholes...

Clergy: 'There will be no blood on the streets of Dearborn'

Dearborn —While court hearings were under way today to decide Terry Jones's bid to protest outside the Islamic Center of America, religious leaders from several denominations were inside rendering their verdict: No thanks.

Charles E. Williams II, senior pastor of Detroit's King Solomon Church described Jones, the Florida pastor who recently burned a Quran, as a man "in search of a riot, a man in search of pain, and a man in search of trouble."

"We want to make sure everybody knows that what he's looking for he's not going to find," Williams said. "There will be no blood on the streets of Dearborn, here in Michigan."

A man in search of a riot is a great turn of phrase which describes Jones to a T.

65 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:17:27am

re: #61 NJDhockeyfan

Take it easy, it's just a funny video.

Off I go now...

You asked and I am taking it easy. It's not getting very good "reviews".

66 Winny Spencer  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:17:29am

re: #61 NJDhockeyfan

Take it easy, it's just a funny video.

Off I go now...

It was.

Have a nice one NJD.

67 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:19:03am

re: #58 SanFranciscoZionist

They were using the phrase long before the current obsession with Muslims sparked. I think of it as a form of cultural appropriation and control: "We're part of you, so we all have the same agenda. Like, we read your parts of the Bible too. What? Your religion isn't entirely based on the texts we use? You have a whole post-Biblical tradition? Well, never mind that, I didn't hear a word of it."

I have a similar reaction to Muslims who cheerfully announce that Islam recognizes all of Judaism's prophets, so, hey, we're basically the same except that we're more inclusive than you!

Great, guys.

68 Tigger2005  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:19:12am
And if people with Fischer’s ideology ever take power in America, they would institute a reign of terror like humanity hasn’t seen since the Spanish Inquisition.

Charles, I'm not really sure about this line. Humanity has seen many reigns of terror MUCH worse than the Spanish Inquisition, most of them having taken place in the last century...including those of Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot.

69 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:19:28am

re: #59 HappyWarrior

I think there was something like that on the name of Congo in America The Book. Was pretty funny because it was pretty accurate.

'People's Democratic Republic' is a very bad sign.

70 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:20:44am

Another one....
Town Hall Citizens Confront Rep. Sean Duffy For Voting To Privatize Medicare And Defend Tax Breaks For Rich

Youtube Video

Dave Wiegel asks: If the Ryan budget is so unpopular, where are the town-hall meltdowns?
There seem to be a lot of videos going around about constituents confronting their representatives. The big difference between this and the Tea Party- Healthcare disruptions from last year is that these are real constituents who want to ask their representatives a question and not a rent-a-mob who wants to shut down the meeting.

71 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:20:53am

Back to the topic.

Bryan Fischer Defends Scott Lively RE: Murder of David Kato

Youtube Video
72 Achilles Tang  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:21:11am

re: #68 Tigger2005

Charles, I'm not really sure about this line. Humanity has seen many reigns of terror MUCH worse than the Spanish Inquisition, most of them having taken place in the last century...including those of Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot.

None of the latter were religiously inspired.

73 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:21:14am

re: #69 SanFranciscoZionist

'People's Democratic Republic' is a very bad sign.

Yep. It would be funny if the opposite was true. You know nations with real harsh sounding names being enlightened democracies. I have to admit I am fascinated by dictators and dictatorships. Kim Jong II in a dark way amuses me because of Team America and his claims about his golf game.

74 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:21:24am

re: #66 Winny Spencer

Ok Winny, you go stand on that side of the room with NJD then :p Me and Gus will stand here and sing Kumbayah!

75 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:21:36am

re: #60 marjoriemoon

Well said, or in a sentence, "Let's point and laugh at the hippies."

All I can say is I'm glad videocameras weren't the norm when I was 20.

Well,, I DO have the grainy 16 millimeter footage of you and I in the back of that VW bus!!

//

76 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:21:47am

Bryan Fischer also defends the death penalty for homosexuals in Uganda.

77 bratwurst  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:22:21am

re: #56 Gus 802

Because you said "awesome day" and I was expecting some video related to Earth Day in a positive light. That video is commonly associated with anti Earth Day sentiment and is used to ridicule environmentalists as a bunch of loons. On its own it might be funny but it's the context in which it's presented.

Do you really expect more for someone who has been reading this site for years but still bases his skepticism toward global warming on conditions he has personally observed over the past few winters?

78 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:22:29am

re: #74 marjoriemoon

Ok Winny, you go stand on that side of the room with NJD then :p Me and Gus will stand here and sing Kumbayah!

Drum circle!

//I'm really not the type. I hate Boulder! ;-)

79 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:23:14am

re: #75 sattv4u2

Well,, I DO have the grainy 16 millimeter footage of you and I in the back of that VW bus!!

//

This is why I can never run for public office!

80 Achilles Tang  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:23:21am

re: #70 Killgore Trout

The big difference between this and the Tea Party- Healthcare disruptions from last year is that these are real constituents who want to ask their representatives a question and not a rent-a-mob who wants to shut down the meeting.

That is a good point, but it would seem to be understandable that there is a difference between people confronting those they voted for, and those they didn't.

81 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:23:35am

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Yep. It would be funny if the opposite was true. You know nations with real harsh sounding names being enlightened democracies. I have to admit I am fascinated by dictators and dictatorships. Kim Jong II in a dark way amuses me because of Team America and his claims about his golf game.

Lil' Kim is contemptably funny--if you don't have to live under him. Between the hair, the extreme shortness, and the taste for liquor and Russian porn stars, the man is a walking, talking joke.

Except that his regime is so monstrous.

Jon Stewart (I'm on a Stewart kick today) calls him 'Bouffant Hitler'.

82 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:25:29am

re: #79 marjoriemoon

This is why I can never run for public office!

Hel,, nowadays, it s prerequisite!!

83 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:28:06am

re: #68 Tigger2005

Charles, I'm not really sure about this line. Humanity has seen many reigns of terror MUCH worse than the Spanish Inquisition, most of them having taken place in the last century...including those of Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot.

That line is absolutely warranted. These folks are the ones buying the Left Behind books, books in which the violence is overwhelming. He comes to smite all the godless:

Paul Nuechterlein accused the authors of re-sacralizing violence, adding that "we human beings are the ones who put our faith in superior firepower. But in the Left Behind novels the darkness of that human, satanic violence is once again attributed to God."[18] In that same book Jesus merely speaks and the bodies of his enemies are ripped open, forcing the Christians to drive carefully to avoid "hitting splayed and filleted bodies of men and women and horses."
[19]

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

84 Jeff In Ohio  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:28:06am

re: #15 Gus 802

The Perpetrators:

Timothy McVeigh
Eric Rudolph
Michael Frederick Griffin
Paul Hill
John C. Salvi III
Shawna Forde
James Charles Kopp
Bruce Turnidge
Scott Roeder
Bob Matthews
Richard Poplawski

See it all at 30 years of right-wing violence in pictures.

THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND!!!1111!!!ELEVENVANJONESTYACORN!!!111!!!

85 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:28:09am

re: #64 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Speaking of hate filled bigoted assholes...

Clergy: 'There will be no blood on the streets of Dearborn'

A man in search of a riot is a great turn of phrase which describes Jones to a T.

Call me morbid, but I find this very exciting. I was thrilled to see 700 Muslims, Christians and Jews gather against this raging bigot. Dearborn is paving the way! We will not be defined by the likes of Pam Geller, Robert Spencer and Terry Jones.

86 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:28:27am

re: #82 sattv4u2
Well I guess that means I can't run; no scandal.

87 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:28:48am

re: #84 Jeff In Ohio

THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND!!!1111!!!ELEVENVANJONESTYACORN!!!111!!!

I thought about them while typing that. Damn. The Weather Underground has a lot of catching up to do.

88 albusteve  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:29:27am

re: #76 Gus 802

Bryan Fischer also defends the death penalty for homosexuals in Uganda.

good god...
I'd like to meet this guy

89 Tigger2005  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:29:44am

re: #72 Naso Tang

None of the latter were religiously inspired.


Pretty close. When you regard your political/economic ideology as the "only way" and the solution to all problems, practically deify and worship the party leaders, and elevate certain literature to the status of infallible scripture (Communist Manifesto, Mein Kampf, Mao's Little Red Book), that sounds a lot like religion to me.

But if you prefer, we can point to the Taliban and the Iranian mullahs instead.

90 Jeff In Ohio  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:29:48am

re: #47 NJDhockeyfan

Fuck the earth, who needs it.

91 Winny Spencer  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:30:00am

re: #74 marjoriemoon

Ok Winny, you go stand on that side of the room with NJD then :p Me and Gus will stand here and sing Kumbayah!

What can I say? I used to be a global warming denier.

92 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:30:14am

re: #86 PhillyPretzel

Well I guess that means I can't run; no scandal.

get with Marjoriemoon

She'll corrupt you!!

//

93 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:30:45am

re: #90 Jeff In Ohio

Fuck the earth, who needs it.

Yeah, it's been freeloading for way too long. When is it gonna do something for us, huh?/

94 McSpiff  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:30:55am

re: #90 Jeff In Ohio

Fuck the earth, who needs it.

For some, politics trumps reality. Its usually best to simply ignore the type.

95 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:31:34am

re: #92 sattv4u2
Nah. It is not worth the effort.

96 Interesting Times  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:31:36am

re: #94 McSpiff

For some, politics trumps reality. Its usually best to simply ignore the type.

I would if the people they vote for weren't so hell-bent on ruining our lives.

97 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:31:42am

re: #81 SanFranciscoZionist

Lil' Kim is contemptably funny--if you don't have to live under him. Between the hair, the extreme shortness, and the taste for liquor and Russian porn stars, the man is a walking, talking joke.

Except that his regime is so monstrous.

Jon Stewart (I'm on a Stewart kick today) calls him 'Bouffant Hitler'.

He really is. As I said, the cults of personality fascinate me. Learned quite a bit about Mao's. It was funny though regarding Mao. We were discussing the late years of his life in lecture rone day and professor asks us: So who will Mao listen to, his wife and the other members of the Gang of Four or Zhou Enlai and the reformists. Guy ahead of me said well he has to listen to his wife heh. And I respond yeah if Mao doesn't listen to her, someone's going to be sleeping on the couch tonight. My primary historical interests remain Eurocentric but these past two semesters of Chinese history have been very enlightening to say the least.

98 Big Steve  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:31:46am

I have often wondered how I would react if suddenly put in a totalitarian system whether I would be a defender of the abused. Were I in Amsterdam in the 40's would I have had the guts to hide the Frank family. While I would like to believe I would, I suspect that maybe I wouldn't be brave enough.

But one thing that I have never really thought about and I need to is if a totalitarian system got imposed and I, being atheistic, would be the persecuted outcast. Would someone hide me. Would I go out in a flame of guerrilla-ism. I probably need to think about this because it is not as unreasonable that it could occur than I probably imagine.

99 Jeff In Ohio  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:32:04am

re: #93 iceweasel

Yeah, it's been freeloading for way too long. When is it gonna do something for us, huh?/

It keeps making me dirty. When will someone do something about that?

100 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:32:25am

re: #83 iceweasel

That line is absolutely warranted. These folks are the ones buying the Left Behind books, books in which the violence is overwhelming. He comes to smite all the godless:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

The good news is that if you ever get upset/angry thinking about Left Behind, there's always "Salvation War" [Link: tvtropes.org...] where the humans who are still alive after the rapture proceed to band together to fight off a demonic invasion, then declare war on both Heaven and Hell at the same time.....

101 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:32:40am

Jimmah, reading over my shoulder, comments:

"Planet Earth-- the ultimate welfare baby."

102 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:32:43am

re: #93 iceweasel

Yeah, it's been freeloading for way too long. When is it gonna do something for us, huh?/

Freeloading is right I damn dare say. Why the Earth is nothing but a big old pantywasted ne'er-do-well living off of welfare checks!

//

103 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:32:44am

re: #92 sattv4u2

get with Marjoriemoon

She'll corrupt you!!

//

I also inhale, but that's all any of you are getting out of me without a subpoena.

104 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:32:50am

re: #99 Jeff In Ohio

It keeps making me dirty. When will someone do something about that?

re: #99 Jeff In Ohio

It keeps making me dirty. When will someone do something about that?

It's given you TIDE(s)

[Link: www.google.com...]

105 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:32:58am

re: #98 Big Steve

I have often wondered how I would react if suddenly put in a totalitarian system whether I would be a defender of the abused. Were I in Amsterdam in the 40's would I have had the guts to hide the Frank family. While I would like to believe I would, I suspect that maybe I wouldn't be brave enough.

But one thing that I have never really thought about and I need to is if a totalitarian system got imposed and I, being atheistic, would be the persecuted outcast. Would someone hide me. Would I go out in a flame of guerrilla-ism. I probably need to think about this because it is not as unreasonable that it could occur than I probably imagine.

That's a great question to ask one's self honestly. It's easy to say without the fear for your life and your family to say yeah I would do all I could agaisnt a regime like that. Your other question is good as well.

106 Jeff In Ohio  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:33:15am

re: #101 iceweasel

Jimmah, reading over my shoulder, comments:

"Planet Earth-- the ultimate welfare baby."

If it wasn't for the stupid earth, we'd all have swimming pools. What's wrong with swimming pools?

107 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:33:30am

re: #101 iceweasel

Jimmah, reading over my shoulder, comments:

"Planet Earth-- the ultimate welfare baby."

3 seconds. I am sending Jimmah telepathic messages and him to me!

//

108 McSpiff  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:33:41am

re: #101 iceweasel

Jimmah, reading over my shoulder, comments:

"Planet Earth-- the ultimate welfare baby."

Why should I be forced to pay for anymore than 2 glaciers? How many does one planet need?

109 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:33:48am

re: #99 Jeff In Ohio

It keeps making me dirty. When will someone do something about that?

Your vow to pee only in your compost pile today is a start!

110 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:33:48am

re: #106 Jeff In Ohio

If it wasn't for the stupid earth, we'd all have swimming pools. What's wrong with swimming pools?

You ,,peeing in them!

111 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:33:58am

The Earth! How did it get here?

112 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:34:10am

re: #48 marjoriemoon

I can see where he'd leave out the Catholics (although I didn't really think about that), but I think he's trying to buddy up with the Jews against the Muslims. I think his constant use of the phrase is to further alienate Muslims, not to define his brand of Christianity. There is no "Judeo-Christian" sect of Christianity.

Well, there is the "Jews for Jesus" missionary program aimed at converting the unsaved Hebrews.

113 Jeff In Ohio  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:34:12am

re: #104 sattv4u2

Pshaw, that's the makers hand.

114 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:34:20am

Bryan Fischer. Is he human?

115 Kragar  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:34:32am

re: #111 Gus 802

The Earth! How did it get here?

Magnets.

116 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:34:33am

re: #101 iceweasel

re: #102 Gus 802

GMTA!

117 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:34:36am

re: #111 Gus 802

The Earth! How did it get here?

Bus would be my guess

A cab would have been too costly

118 Jeff In Ohio  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:35:08am

re: #104 sattv4u2

Er, I mean, Tide makes me itch.

119 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:35:20am

re: #114 Gus 802
He is not human. He looks like one.

120 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:35:38am

re: #112 Alouette

Well, there is the "Jews for Jesus" missionary program aimed at converting the unsaved Hebrews.

damn, am I tired

I thought you typed the unsHaved Hebrews

121 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:35:42am

re: #91 Winny Spencer

What can I say? I used to be a global warming denier.

Well those video people are weird. I never stood in the middle of the forest screaming my fool head off, but I did a lot of camping with my native friends. They're alot more stoic. They have better drum circles, too.

122 darthstar  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:36:05am

Is he also implying that the AFA has already "taken" to killing people? Obviously, some of their followers have.

123 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:36:08am

re: #119 PhillyPretzel

He is not human. He looks like one.

He's a cockroach in a man-suit.

124 Achilles Tang  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:36:09am

re: #89 Tigger2005

Pretty close. When you regard your political/economic ideology as the "only way" and the solution to all problems, practically deify and worship the party leaders, and elevate certain literature to the status of infallible scripture (Communist Manifesto, Mein Kampf, Mao's Little Red Book), that sounds a lot like religion to me.

That argument is the same one deists make about atheists, or wingnuts about scientists. "It's just another religion".

I think there is a difference.

BBL

125 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:36:10am

re: #111 Gus 802

The Earth! How did it get here?

And why is it magnetic?!!!

126 Four More Tears  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:36:21am

re: #120 sattv4u2

damn, am I tired

I thought you typed the unsHaved Hebrews

No, they're beyond salvation.

/

127 Jeff In Ohio  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:36:41am

re: #118 Jeff In Ohio

Er, I mean, Tide makes me itch.

And don't get me started on their total domination of the shelf. And I own a lot of P&G. It's like a 3rd of the detergent shelf is Tide. Fuck that. Fuck Tide. Fuck the ocean. Fuck you dirty earth.

128 Tigger2005  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:37:07am

re: #98 Big Steve

I have often wondered how I would react if suddenly put in a totalitarian system whether I would be a defender of the abused. Were I in Amsterdam in the 40's would I have had the guts to hide the Frank family. While I would like to believe I would, I suspect that maybe I wouldn't be brave enough.

But one thing that I have never really thought about and I need to is if a totalitarian system got imposed and I, being atheistic, would be the persecuted outcast. Would someone hide me. Would I go out in a flame of guerrilla-ism. I probably need to think about this because it is not as unreasonable that it could occur than I probably imagine.

The men who plotted against Hitler were incredibly brave and many of them paid horribly. After months of torture they were slowly hanged or garroted. Hitler pretty much went full-on Vlad the Impaler on them.

129 darthstar  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:37:21am

re: #104 sattv4u2

re: #99 Jeff In Ohio

It's given you TIDE(s)

[Link: www.google.com...]

I'll take this one.
Image: HighArtatLowTide.jpg

130 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:37:32am

re: #107 Gus 802

3 seconds. I am sending Jimmah telepathic messages and him to me!

//

You're freaking me out, maaaan....

131 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:37:33am

re: #112 Alouette

Well, there is the "Jews for Jesus" missionary program aimed at converting the unsaved Hebrews.

They like to be called "Messianic Jews" now. Doesn't sound so crazy, I guess.

132 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:37:37am

re: #123 Gus 802

He's a cockroach in a man-suit.

No, he's just a pathetic two-bit demagogue with delusions of grandeur.

133 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:38:15am

re: #120 sattv4u2

damn, am I tired

I thought you typed the unsHaved Hebrews

ROFL

134 Kragar  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:38:30am

re: #130 iceweasel

You're freaking me out, maaan...

Youtube Video
135 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:38:35am

Grrrrr. Another stupid "security scan" link.

136 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:38:56am

We are only halfway through the Passover week, but, crap. My grandkids have watched every DVD in the collection. Now they are bored out of their little minds, but it's too cold to play outside.

I put on the National Geographic "Nature's Fury" season, which is about four hours long. Their mom approves because it's "educational." So they can learn all about global warming and evolution. Science!

137 Jimmah  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:39:12am

re: #107 Gus 802

3 seconds. I am sending Jimmah telepathic messages and him to me!

//

Heh :) Seriously though, planet Earth has been doing absolutely nothing for it's entire life. Just sits there receiving photons (nature's own welfare cheques) from the Sun every day. And now it expects to be taken care of by us too.

138 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:39:20am

re: #131 marjoriemoon

They like to be called "Messianic Jews" now. Doesn't sound so crazy, I guess.

Thing is, as far as I can tell, almost none of them start off as Jews. They're Protestants who want to be tribal.

139 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:39:23am

re: #127 Jeff In Ohio

And don't get me started on their total domination of the shelf. And I own a lot of P&G. It's like a 3rd of the detergent shelf is Tide. Fuck that. Fuck Tide. Fuck the ocean. Fuck you dirty earth.

P&G? Whaddaya, some kinda satanist?

140 Tigger2005  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:39:31am

re: #124 Naso Tang

That argument is the same one deists make about atheists, or wingnuts about scientists. "It's just another religion".

I think there is a difference.

BBL

Well, that's not the argument I'm making, that "It's just another religion." I am simply saying that political extremism has many of the hallmarks of irrational religious fervor.

141 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:39:45am

re: #131 marjoriemoon

They like to be called "Messianic Jews" now. Doesn't sound so crazy, I guess.

"Messianic Jews" are the ones who believe that the Rebbe is Mashiach.

142 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:40:20am

re: #137 Jimmah

And now it expects to be taken care of by us too.

What are we, Nature's Medicare? Fuck that, I say!

143 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:40:47am

re: #137 Jimmah

Heh :) Seriously though, planet Earth has been doing absolutely nothing for it's entire life. Just sits there receiving photons (nature's own welfare cheques) from the Sun every day. And now it expects to be taken care of by us too.

The Earth just needs to learn how to take personal responsibility. Our best option is to leave him alone and provide it with a heavy dose of tough love.

//

144 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:40:51am

I've met a Messianic Jew before. I don't understand that. I thought one of the distinguishing features of Judaism was that it believes the messiah has yet to arrive. I mean to me that sounds like being a Christian and not believing in Christ.

145 Four More Tears  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:40:57am

re: #136 Alouette

We are only halfway through the Passover week, but, crap. My grandkids have watched every DVD in the collection. Now they are bored out of their little minds, but it's too cold to play outside.

I put on the National Geographic "Nature's Fury" season, which is about four hours long. Their mom approves because it's "educational." So they can learn all about global warming and evolution. Science!

Netflix instant can restore sanity.

146 Big Steve  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:41:11am

Speaking of the Earth.....I have a moral question to the lizard community. I, like everyone else, simply cannot get my dishes clean in the dishwasher since the took the phosphates out. I either have to hand clean them before putting in, thus wasting water and more detergent, or I sometimes have to wash them twice or three times again wasting water and electricity.

On the other hand, I went to Home Depot (paint area) bought a one pound box of sodium triphosphate (cost $3). If I put literally a half a teaspoon in the dishwaster little flippy door along with the detergent pill the dishes come out perfect. Three day hardened spaghetti pots, no problems.

So....in your opinion am I a scumbag?

147 albusteve  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:41:18am

humans are the infection that will kill the host

148 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:41:22am

re: #142 iceweasel

What are we, Nature's Medicare? Fuck that, I say!

//The Volokh Conspiracy

/

149 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:41:39am

re: #136 Alouette

re: #145 JasonA

Netflix instant can restore sanity.

So can a couple of shots of vodka!

150 Jeff In Ohio  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:41:44am

re: #139 iceweasel

P&G? Whaddaya, some kinda satanist?

Why yes. A dirty satanist who hates the dirty earth.

151 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:42:26am

re: #138 SanFranciscoZionist

Thing is, as far as I can tell, almost none of them start off as Jews. They're Protestants who want to be tribal.

Yes, but they target elderly Holocaust survivors with their scheme. Then, when they do manage to entrap some addled senior, they wave him/her around like a trophy. That's just sickening.

152 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:42:27am

re: #146 Big Steve

So...in your opinion am I a scumbag?

Yes, but it has nothing to do with your dishes!

153 Jeff In Ohio  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:42:38am

re: #139 iceweasel

P&G? Whaddaya, some kinda satanist?

BTW, those people are the GOP base now. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Serves them right, the GOP is now the Amway of politics. Fuck them too.

154 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:42:39am

TIDE!

155 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:42:46am

re: #146 Big Steve

Speaking of the Earth...I have a moral question to the lizard community. I, like everyone else, simply cannot get my dishes clean in the dishwasher since the took the phosphates out. I either have to hand clean them before putting in, thus wasting water and more detergent, or I sometimes have to wash them twice or three times again wasting water and electricity.

On the other hand, I went to Home Depot (paint area) bought a one pound box of sodium triphosphate (cost $3). If I put literally a half a teaspoon in the dishwaster little flippy door along with the detergent pill the dishes come out perfect. Three day hardened spaghetti pots, no problems.

So...in your opinion am I a scumbag?

You could hand clean 'em a little more and use the machine as a drying rack.

156 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:42:49am

re: #145 JasonA

Netflix instant can restore sanity.

I went to Amazon Video on Demand.

157 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:42:59am

brb

158 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:43:15am

re: #157 Gus 802

brb

why?

159 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:43:31am

re: #120 sattv4u2

damn, am I tired

I thought you typed the unsHaved Hebrews

perv

160 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:43:45am

re: #149 sattv4u2

re: #145 JasonA

So can a couple of shots of vodka!

Vodka, sadly, is not kosher for Passover. But I do have some Golan merlot.

161 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:44:05am

re: #150 Jeff In Ohio

Why yes. A dirty satanist who hates the dirty earth.

re: #146 Big Steve


On the other hand, I went to Home Depot (paint area) bought a one pound box of sodium triphosphate (cost $3). If I put literally a half a teaspoon in the dishwaster little flippy door along with the detergent pill the dishes come out perfect. Three day hardened spaghetti pots, no problems.

So...in your opinion am I a scumbag?

Problems solved! Big Steve, become a satanist, Jeff in Ohio, head to Home Depot.

I'm a uniter, not a divider.

162 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:44:21am

The Earth is a young buck eating a t-bone steak and driving an escalade.

163 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:44:59am

re: #162 HappyWarrior

The Earth is a young buck eating a t-bone steak and driving an escalade.

A Welfare Queen collecting benefits under a million different aliases.

164 Jeff In Ohio  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:45:23am

re: #161 iceweasel

Word the sister.

165 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:46:00am

re: #158 sattv4u2

why?

I had to check on the FBI agent I have chained in the basement.

//

166 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:46:46am

re: #141 Alouette

"Messianic Jews" are the ones who believe that the Rebbe is Mashiach.

Which Rebbe?

You will hardly ever here J4J used anymore. It's almost exclusively Messianic. They think it gives them more credibility.

167 Jeff In Ohio  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:47:04am

re: #146 Big Steve

Speaking of the Earth...I have a moral question to the lizard community. I, like everyone else, simply cannot get my dishes clean in the dishwasher since the took the phosphates out. I either have to hand clean them before putting in, thus wasting water and more detergent, or I sometimes have to wash them twice or three times again wasting water and electricity.

On the other hand, I went to Home Depot (paint area) bought a one pound box of sodium triphosphate (cost $3). If I put literally a half a teaspoon in the dishwaster little flippy door along with the detergent pill the dishes come out perfect. Three day hardened spaghetti pots, no problems.

So...in your opinion am I a scumbag?

No, you eat to much cheese, your waters to hard and/or your dishwasher sucks.

168 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:48:40am

Oh boy!

@rightwingwatch Right Wing Watch
Creationists say the teaching of evolution has led to homosexual indoctrination in schools, just like in Nazi Germany: [Link: bit.ly...]

169 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:49:12am

Insanely Offtopic but... we could have a tropical system form in the Atlantic before Easter. The odds are lowish but 91L seems to be maintaining structure and organization and is being tracked by the NHC.

Current Visible Image:
Image: vis-l.jpg

170 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:49:14am

re: #144 HappyWarrior

I've met a Messianic Jew before. I don't understand that. I thought one of the distinguishing features of Judaism was that it believes the messiah has yet to arrive. I mean to me that sounds like being a Christian and not believing in Christ.

That's about it :)

I actually disagree with my wonderful pal upthread that most of these people aren't Jews. Maybe that's SF's experience, but the only ones I've met are ex-Jews. It was started by Jews in the 70s. And when evangelists have tried to convert me, they do so by way of trying to pass off J4J to me.

They want the best of both worlds for J4J are Christians, not Jews.

171 bratwurst  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:49:19am

re: #138 SanFranciscoZionist

Thing is, as far as I can tell, almost none of them start off as Jews. They're Protestants who want to be tribal.

...or people with Jewish-sounding last names who see this as a (rather odd) way of connecting with their (presumed) roots. Their German headquarters is located in my former hometown, and they regularly hand out pamphlets to people exiting the u-bahn. Seeking Jews to convert there is roughly along the lines of seeking needles in a haystack.

172 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:49:32am

Excerpt:

Those who hold godless ideologies have long understood that the best way to transform societies and change the way people traditionally think is by indoctrinating children from the earliest stages of education. In the last century, this methodology was effectively employed by those who held the atheistic ideologies of Nazism in Germany and Communism in countries such as the Soviet Union, where the state assumed total control of the educational system—even to the extent of turning children against parents. Of course, both of these worldviews fully embraced Darwinian evolution as a way to justify their actions and nullify the beliefs of their largely Christian populations. While U.S. federal government does not have that kind of authority in our school system (not yet, anyway), is it any wonder that those who lack a biblical worldview in our country, including those with a gay agenda, have seized upon our primary schools as the main vehicle of transforming our nation more to their liking?

Read it here.

173 Jimmah  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:50:32am

re: #143 Gus 802

The Earth just needs to learn how to take personal responsibility. Our best option is to leave him alone and provide it with a heavy dose of tough love.

//

True. But I still blame the sun for nurturing this sense of entitlement. In an ideal fiscally conservative universe, there would be no place for these bloated redistributers of galactic welfare. Planets would have to man up and fight for their energy. Then we'd have some real planets!

174 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:50:40am

re: #169 bloodstar

Insanely Offtopic but... we could have a tropical system form in the Atlantic before Easter. The odds are lowish but 91L seems to be maintaining structure and organization and is being tracked by the NHC.

Current Visible Image:
Image: vis-l.jpg

Blame Perry.

175 Kragar  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:50:54am

re: #168 Gus 802

Oh boy!

@rightwingwatch Right Wing Watch
Creationists say the teaching of evolution has led to homosexual indoctrination in schools, just like in Nazi Germany: [Link: bit.ly...]

At least they're consistently full of shit.

176 darthstar  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:51:10am

Guy's been dead 2000 years and people still get upset over him.

177 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:52:11am

re: #166 marjoriemoon

Which Rebbe?

You will hardly ever here J4J used anymore. It's almost exclusively Messianic. They think it gives them more credibility.

The Lubavitcher Rebbe, who passed away in 1994. There is still a small core of believers who insist that he was the Mashiach. They were called "Messianists" and the J4J decided to co-opt that terminology in order to cause confusion.

178 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:52:18am

re: #165 Gus 802

I had to check on the FBI agent I have chained in the basement.

//

Why,, didn't you chain him properly?

179 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:52:25am

re: #173 Jimmah

True. But I still blame the sun for nurturing this sense of entitlement. In an ideal fiscally conservative universe, there would be no place for these bloated redistributers of galactic welfare. Planets would have to man up and fight for their energy. Then we'd have some real planets!

Rivers polluted? Just leave them alone and nature will clean it up. It's like environmental Objectivism! Might take 10,000 years.

//

180 Kragar  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:52:44am

re: #176 darthstar

Guy's been dead 2000 years and people still get upset over him.

Image: needed-to-be-said-jesus-s-fan-club-demotivational-poster-1246500597.jpg

181 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:52:57am

re: #178 sattv4u2

Why,, didn't you chain him properly?

Nah. I think it was the lotion I made him put on when I had him in that hole I dug down there.

//

182 Four More Tears  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:53:03am

re: #166 marjoriemoon

Which Rebbe?

You will hardly ever here J4J used anymore. It's almost exclusively Messianic. They think it gives them more credibility.

"Jews for Jesus" always made me think it was satire, even after I learned it wasn't.

183 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:53:05am

re: #178 sattv4u2
He might have picked the locks.

184 Kragar  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:53:24am

re: #181 Gus 802

Nah. I think it was the lotion I made him put on when I had him in that hole I dug down there.

//

Him?

YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!

185 darthstar  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:53:45am

Should-you-bring-it-up-ometer

I need one of these.

186 Big Steve  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:54:52am

re: #152 sattv4u2

So...in your opinion am I a scumbag?

Yes, but it has nothing to do with your dishes!


You know I ALMOST put a caveat in that "am I scumbag (On this issue only!)

187 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:55:48am

re: #185 darthstar

Should-you-bring-it-up-ometer

I need one of these.

Everybody needs one of those.

188 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:56:05am

Mitt Romney Haunted By Past Of Trying To Help Uninsured Sick People

"My hope is that Republican voters will one day forgive me for making it easier for sick people—especially low-income sick people—to go to the hospital and see a doctor," Romney added. "It was wrong, and I'm sorry."

189 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:56:51am

re: #188 Killgore Trout

Mitt Romney Haunted By Past Of Trying To Help Uninsured Sick People

Damn. That sucks. What kind of asshole would want to help uninsured sick people?

//

190 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:57:35am

re: #189 Gus 802

Damn. That sucks. What kind of asshole would want to help uninsured sick people?

//

Socialists!

191 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:57:48am

re: #186 Big Steve

You know I ALMOST put a caveat in that "am I scumbag (On this issue only!)

I thought I already answered that!!
//

192 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:58:12am

re: #189 Gus 802

Damn. That sucks. What kind of asshole would want to help uninsured sick people?

//

Crucify him.

193 darthstar  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:58:36am

re: #189 Gus 802

Damn. That sucks. What kind of asshole would want to help uninsured sick people?

//

Why does Mitt Romney hate compost? That's what uninsured sick people are...future compost.
/

194 darthstar  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:58:44am

re: #192 Decatur Deb

Crucify him.

It's been done.

195 M. Dubious  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:58:47am

re: #98 Big Steve

What type of atheist-hunting totalitarian system would be "...not as unreasonable that it could occur than I probably imagine"? Fundamentalist Christian?

196 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:58:52am
"I don't think I can vote for someone like that," Pennsylvania Republican Eric Tolbert said. "He says he's sorry, but how do I know that's the real Mitt Romney? What happens if he gets elected and tries to help sick people again?"

"I like Michele Bachmann now," Tolbert added. "Because what this country needs is a president who doesn't give a fuck about helping people."


Ha!

197 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:59:08am

re: #184 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Him?

YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!

Him. Her. It's all good with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.

//

198 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:59:35am

re: #189 Gus 802

Damn. That sucks. What kind of asshole would want to help uninsured sick people?

//

An insured asshole.

199 Big Steve  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:59:54am

re: #195 harald

What type of atheist-hunting totalitarian system would be "...not as unreasonable that it could occur than I probably imagine"? Fundamentalist Christian?

Yes

200 Winny Spencer  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:00:03pm

re: #168 Gus 802

Oh boy!

@rightwingwatch Right Wing Watch
Creationists say the teaching of evolution has led to homosexual indoctrination in schools, just like in Nazi Germany: [Link: bit.ly...]

An exceedingly weird compulsion that these full mooners have, to always throw in, irregardless of the issue or context, "just like in Nazi Germany".

201 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:00:13pm

re: #198 iceweasel

An insured asshole.

Or the more likely case. Some uninsured idiot.

202 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:00:40pm

re: #197 Gus 802
Oh G-d. You are making me laugh too hard. The neighbors will want to know what is going on.

203 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:01:59pm

"Why I would rather die before accepting Medicaid!"

Famous last words.

204 jaunte  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:02:05pm

re: #83 iceweasel

In that same book Jesus merely speaks and the bodies of his enemies are ripped open, forcing the Christians to drive carefully to avoid "hitting splayed and filleted bodies of men and women and horses.


Why does Tim LaHaye Jesus hate horses?

205 darthstar  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:02:24pm

This guy's just fucking good...and I love this song, so here it is...(and if you've ever seen me at a show it's an apt description of me)

Youtube Video
206 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:03:33pm

re: #204 jaunte

Why does Tim LaHaye Jesus hate horses?

They're ridden by people who aren't RTC: Real True Christians.

207 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:03:41pm

So what would "Free-Market Good Friday" be like?

//

208 M. Dubious  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:03:52pm

re: #196 Killgore Trout

And that is supposed to be an endorsement? Wow. I'm lacking, what is it called, those conglomerations of letters.

209 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:05:00pm

re: #208 harald

And that is supposed to be an endorsement? Wow. I'm lacking, what is it called, those conglomerations of letters.

Onion.

210 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:05:09pm

re: #208 harald

And that is supposed to be an endorsement? Wow. I'm lacking, what is it called, those conglomerations of letters.

It's from the Onion which is a parody site.

211 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:05:18pm

re: #207 Gus 802

So what would "Free-Market Good Friday" be like?

//

Charging Christ for the cross and nails?

//I'm going to Hell for that one, I just know it.

212 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:05:19pm

re: #208 harald

And that is supposed to be an endorsement? Wow. I'm lacking, what is it called, those conglomerations of letters.

Umm,,, eerrrr,, SATIRE

But thanks for playing

Johnny ,, do we have any parting gifts!?!?!?!

213 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:05:33pm

re: #207 Gus 802

So what would "Free-Market Good Friday" be like?

//

Two for one at the hardware store?

/

214 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:05:43pm

re: #209 Decatur Deb

re: #210 Killgore Trout

sshhhh,, you'll ruin it !!!

215 jaunte  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:05:56pm

re: #208 harald

[Link: www.theonion.com...]

216 Slap  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:06:12pm

re: #146 Big Steve

Speaking of the Earth...I have a moral question to the lizard community. I, like everyone else, simply cannot get my dishes clean in the dishwasher since the took the phosphates out. I either have to hand clean them before putting in, thus wasting water and more detergent, or I sometimes have to wash them twice or three times again wasting water and electricity.

On the other hand, I went to Home Depot (paint area) bought a one pound box of sodium triphosphate (cost $3). If I put literally a half a teaspoon in the dishwaster little flippy door along with the detergent pill the dishes come out perfect. Three day hardened spaghetti pots, no problems.

So...in your opinion am I a scumbag?

Nah. A scumbag would buy the triphosphate and just dump it in the toilet in one fell swoop, just to show those damned hippies.

But -- what is this electricity-powered dishwashing machine of which you speak? For the last couple of decades, the only dishwashing units I've encountered have been bipedal.

This modern science world -- it's amazing!

217 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:06:15pm

re: #207 Gus 802

So what would "Free-Market Good Friday" be like?

//

Last Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner, instead of just Supper?

218 M. Dubious  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:06:37pm

re: #199 Big Steve

Yes

Ah, I was wondering why they were stocking up on guns...

219 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:06:56pm

re: #207 Gus 802

So what would "Free-Market Good Friday" be like?

//

Vestments auctioned off, not a lottery prize.

220 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:06:57pm

re: #212 sattv4u2

What's sad is it's actually pretty damn close to reality. Parodies of wingnuts are almost indistinguishable from the real thing.

221 M. Dubious  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:07:49pm

I don't get satire. Ever. It all looks real to me.

222 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:08:00pm

re: #220 Killgore Trout

What's sad is it's actually pretty damn close to reality. Parodies of wingnuts are almost indistinguishable from the real thing.

When reality is crazier than the parody, I get worried.

223 Jimmah  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:08:05pm

re: #211 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Charging Christ for the cross and nails?

//I'm going to Hell for that one, I just know it.

If you don't mind, I think I'll just cut in line in front of you with this:

Youtube Video
224 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:08:49pm

re: #144 HappyWarrior

I've met a Messianic Jew before. I don't understand that. I thought one of the distinguishing features of Judaism was that it believes the messiah has yet to arrive. I mean to me that sounds like being a Christian and not believing in Christ.

Messianic Jews of the Christian variety try to sell the idea that you can accept Christ and still be a Jew. As I mentioned, most of them seem to start out as Protestants, so it's more like, accept Christ and adopt some Jewish customs.

As Alouette points out, there's also a small movement now among some Chasidim that believes that the late Rebbe Menachem Mendel Schneerson was the Messiah. Which is a whole different ball of wax.

225 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:09:00pm

Hi y'all!

226 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:09:27pm

re: #213 iceweasel

Two for one at the hardware store?

/

Check your email. I made a bad one that I can't repeat here. I'm too chicken. ;)

227 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:10:14pm

re: #151 Alouette

Yes, but they target elderly Holocaust survivors with their scheme. Then, when they do manage to entrap some addled senior, they wave him/her around like a trophy. That's just sickening.

They also target the Russian immigrants, because they figure they know less. Scum.

I once encouraged my husband to ram a Jews for Jesus vehicle in the parking lot at the mall. He didn't do it. Wuss.

228 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:10:36pm

re: #220 Killgore Trout

What's sad is it's actually pretty damn close to reality. Parodies of wingnuts are almost indistinguishable from the real thing.

Yeah, I know

I mean, who could make up something like a congresswoman asking a NASA official if the Mars Rover is going to take pictures of the American Flag the astronauts left,,, or a congressman worried that an island will tip over if the marines put more troops there

229 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:10:48pm

re: #226 Gus 802

Check your email. I made a bad one that I can't repeat here. I'm too chicken. ;)

We both laughed hard. ;)

230 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:11:10pm

re: #225 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hi y'all!

y'all what?

231 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:11:17pm

re: #162 HappyWarrior

The Earth is a young buck eating a t-bone steak and driving an escalade.

No, I think she's a welfare queen who keeps having more babies for the added forty bucks a month on her checks.

232 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:11:18pm

re: #229 iceweasel

We both laughed hard. ;)

Cool. It's not so bad is it?

233 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:11:40pm

re: #165 Gus 802

I had to check on the FBI agent I have chained in the basement.

//

Is he OK?

234 darthstar  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:11:51pm

re: #223 Jimmah

If you don't mind, I think I'll just cut in line in front of you with this:

[Video]

"does exactly what it says in the Bible"...HA!

235 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:11:52pm

re: #232 Gus 802

Cool. It's not so bad is it?

No! not at all. ;)

236 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:12:07pm

re: #177 Alouette

The Lubavitcher Rebbe, who passed away in 1994. There is still a small core of believers who insist that he was the Mashiach. They were called "Messianists" and the J4J decided to co-opt that terminology in order to cause confusion.

Sorry, I got distracted.

I had no idea.

237 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:12:26pm

re: #233 SanFranciscoZionist

Is he OK?

Yep. He's basting in a Teriyaki sauce.

//

238 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:13:59pm

re: #235 iceweasel

No! not at all. ;)

So he can share it with the class?

239 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:14:29pm

It might be the Onion but oddly enough it's true.

240 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:14:45pm

re: #238 wrenchwench

So he can share it with the class?

I don't know if he brought enough for everybody. :(

241 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:16:47pm

re: #237 Gus 802

Yep. He's basting in a Teriyaki sauce.

//

Remember to turn him ever hour or so.

242 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:17:12pm

re: #241 SanFranciscoZionist

Remember to turn him ever hour or so.

Turn him to what?

243 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:17:21pm

re: #241 SanFranciscoZionist

Remember to turn him ever hour or so.

Hey! Good idea. Hmm, I can use a partner.

//

244 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:17:48pm

re: #242 sattv4u2

Turn him to what?

Into a Newt!

245 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:18:00pm

re: #244 Gus 802

Into a Newt!

A newt?

246 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:18:05pm

You guys are all really cracking me up tonight. Thanks. ;)

247 Big Steve  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:18:11pm

re: #216 Slap

Nah. A scumbag would buy the triphosphate and just dump it in the toilet in one fell swoop, just to show those damned hippies.

But -- what is this electricity-powered dishwashing machine of which you speak? For the last couple of decades, the only dishwashing units I've encountered have been bipedal.

This modern science world -- it's amazing!

So true story here.....a friend of mine started an off-shore diving company for oil rigs and did really well and suddenly was rich. He decided to build a custom monster house. He told each member of the family that they could design in one luxury feature. One son wanted a hidden room in the house, so the house has a hidden room, he himself wanted a workshop and got it. His daughter got her own bathroom attached to her room. However his wife wanted three dishwashers, all in a row under the counter in the kitchen so that the dishes get washed in one, then people use them and put them in another and then repeat.....and the household dishes never have to be put up in the cabinets. That was her luxury item.

248 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:19:03pm

re: #245 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

A newt?

Hope he's not married. Then he'll get a sudden urge to get a divorce. Or trade his Jaguar in for a Chevy.

//

249 Jimmah  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:20:57pm

Haggis time! (seriously - tonight is a big night for iceweasel - it'll be her first taste of our national dish)

See you guys later :)

250 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:21:20pm

re: #227 SanFranciscoZionist

They also target the Russian immigrants, because they figure they know less. Scum.

I once encouraged my husband to ram a Jews for Jesus vehicle in the parking lot at the mall. He didn't do it. Wuss.

Years ago, when my oldest son was a teenager, he went to the homes of elderly Holocaust survivors to read the Megillah for them. At one such visit, the phone rang, and it was a J4J wanting to know if the occupant had received the literature they had so kindly sent him. He screamed at them over the phone, "I t'rew it in da garbage! You people can all go to Hell! You're saying that my mother and father and brothers and sisters are all burning in Hell for not believing in your Yushka! You can kush mir in tuchas (kiss my ass) you momzers (bastards)!"

251 Summer Seale  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:21:39pm

You know, I have to say: Bryan Fischer is right.

I know, just personally, that I wake up every morning as a liberal bemoaning the fact that I wasted another day by not killing somebody. As an Atheist, I can barely face myself in the mirror every day when I think about how little I do to actually just contravene Christ in every way possible.

It's all I care about, but I'm such a wimpy girl that I don't know what to do. A sad, miserable, existence it is.... Honestly, all I want to do is kill people and drink their blood, and flip the bird off to "The Man in the sky", and contravene his laws and seek to destroy His works and everything. But all I can do is be restrained by my ingrained non-religious humanism which tells me that's just not such a great idea.

Just be careful, kids, and don't end up all confused like me.

252 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:21:46pm

re: #242 sattv4u2

Turn him to what?

Turn him over in the teriyaki sauce. So he seasons evenly.

253 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:22:06pm

re: #245 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

A newt?

He'll get bettah.

254 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:22:34pm

re: #249 Jimmah

Oh. Dear. God.

255 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:23:15pm

re: #249 Jimmah

Haggis time! (seriously - tonight is a big night for iceweasel - it'll be her first taste of our national dish)

See you guys later :)

Tastes like kishka.

256 kirkspencer  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:23:40pm

re: #18 HappyWarrior

liberals all. Remember every right winger who commits an act of violence becomes a liberal.

More accurately: Every right winger who commits an act of violence isn't a true conservative. re: #249 Jimmah

Haggis time! (seriously - tonight is a big night for iceweasel - it'll be her first taste of our national dish)

See you guys later :)

Some of us like haggis. Hopefully after tonight our numbers shall increase.

(one of us, one of us...)

257 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:23:44pm

re: #255 Alouette

Tastes like kishka.

Probably does, come to think of it.

258 Winny Spencer  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:24:20pm

re: #249 Jimmah

Haggis time! (seriously - tonight is a big night for iceweasel - it'll be her first taste of our national dish)

See you guys later :)

I hope we hear from her again.....

259 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:24:34pm

re: #146 Big Steve

Speaking of the Earth...I have a moral question to the lizard community. I, like everyone else, simply cannot get my dishes clean in the dishwasher since the took the phosphates out. I either have to hand clean them before putting in, thus wasting water and more detergent, or I sometimes have to wash them twice or three times again wasting water and electricity.

On the other hand, I went to Home Depot (paint area) bought a one pound box of sodium triphosphate (cost $3). If I put literally a half a teaspoon in the dishwaster little flippy door along with the detergent pill the dishes come out perfect. Three day hardened spaghetti pots, no problems.

So...in your opinion am I a scumbag?

Not exactly a scumbag, I ruled that out when you questioned the morality of your decision and showed some introspection. Maybe more like, um, callous. One reason they were banned from various products, among others, is that phosphates are destroying many aquatic habitats. It doesn't take much to achieve that effect because it is a limiting nutrient in many freshwater ecosystems.

260 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:24:36pm

re: #257 SanFranciscoZionist

Probably does, come to think of it.

Probably tastes more like kishka than kishka.

261 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:24:40pm

re: #249 Jimmah

Haggis time! (seriously - tonight is a big night for iceweasel - it'll be her first taste of our national dish)

See you guys later :)

Done haggis--think I'll stick with Gus's flic flambe.

262 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:24:41pm

re: #255 Alouette

re: #257 SanFranciscoZionist

It is.

263 kirkspencer  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:24:42pm

re: #249 Jimmah

Some of us like haggis. Hopefully after tonight our numbers shall increase.

(one of us, one of us...)

Fixed to finish removing the earlier comment I THOUGHT I'd deleted.

PIMF.

264 Big Steve  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:24:50pm

re: #251 Summer

You know, I have to say: Bryan Fischer is right.

I know, just personally, that I wake up every morning as a liberal bemoaning the fact that I wasted another day by not killing somebody. As an Atheist, I can barely face myself in the mirror every day when I think about how little I do to actually just contravene Christ in every way possible.
blockquote>
your forgot the sinful sex everyday as well

265 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:24:57pm

re: #258 Winny Spencer

I hope we hear from her again...

Should we just start writing the obituary now?

266 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:25:16pm

re: #227 SanFranciscoZionist

They also target the Russian immigrants, because they figure they know less. Scum.

I once encouraged my husband to ram a Jews for Jesus vehicle in the parking lot at the mall. He didn't do it. Wuss.

LOL I love you.

267 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:25:18pm

re: #262 PhillyPretzel

re: #257 SanFranciscoZionist

It is.

Kishka = kosher haggis

268 Summer Seale  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:25:31pm

re: #264 Big Steve

your forgot the sinful sex everyday as well

No I didn't. I manage to pull that off every day, thank you. =)

269 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:25:48pm

re: #265 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Should we just start writing the obituary now?

Youtube Video
270 garhighway  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:26:27pm

re: #181 Gus 802

Nah. I think it was the lotion I made him put on when I had him in that hole I dug down there.

//

Careful:

If he gets loose he might go medieval on your ass.

271 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:29:52pm

re: #267 Alouette

Kishka = kosher haggis

LOL (all the Jews are giggling in the corner).

272 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:29:56pm

re: #249 Jimmah

Haggis time! (seriously - tonight is a big night for iceweasel - it'll be her first taste of our national dish)

See you guys later :)

Harriet Michaels: Do you actually like haggis?
Charlie Mackenzie: No, I think it's repellent in every way. In fact, I think most Scottish cuisine is based on a dare.
-So I Married An Axe Murderer

273 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:29:56pm

re: #259 prononymous

Not exactly a scumbag, I ruled that out when you questioned the morality of your decision and showed some introspection. Maybe more like, um, callous. One reason they were banned from various products, among others, is that phosphates are destroying many aquatic habitats. It doesn't take much to achieve that effect because it is a limiting nutrient in many freshwater ecosystems.

With a little plumbing tittivation, the phosphate could wind up in his locovore garden, where it might do some good.

274 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:30:36pm

re: #271 marjoriemoon
Yes. :)

275 Big Steve  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:31:56pm

re: #259 prononymous

Not exactly a scumbag, I ruled that out when you questioned the morality of your decision and showed some introspection. Maybe more like, um, callous. One reason they were banned from various products, among others, is that phosphates are destroying many aquatic habitats. It doesn't take much to achieve that effect because it is a limiting nutrient in many freshwater ecosystems.


Yes....I know why they are banned.....however phosphates being amphipathic have a polar and non polar moiety in the same molecule allowing them to be both hydrophobic and hydrophillic at the same time so they are the true bisexuals of the chemistry world. This allows them to solublize fats and oils and such and stay water soluable. One of the truly fascinating uses of entropy. So they clean like a m'fin riot. In addition, that partial soluability leaves the particles every so slightly as emulsions rather than true solutions so they carry momentum and literally chip particles off of dishes. And yes I do have a chemistry degree....

276 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:33:09pm

Haggis taste any good? I never had it. People ever wonder what they put into sausage? The casing itself is made from the intestines.

277 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:34:04pm

Or a hot dog where you basically throw an entire cow into an industrial blender hoofs and all!

//

278 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:35:31pm

re: #277 Gus 802

Lips and assholes...

279 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:35:57pm

re: #278 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Lips and assholes...

Sounds like a Mark Twain quote.

//

280 Slap  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:37:03pm

re: #278 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Lips and assholes...

From your lips to God's....ah, never mind.

281 Interesting Times  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:37:56pm

re: #277 Gus 802

Or a hot dog where you basically throw an entire cow into an industrial blender hoofs and all!

I think Lisa Simpson's take was more accurate.

282 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:38:17pm

re: #249 Jimmah

Haggis time! (seriously - tonight is a big night for iceweasel - it'll be her first taste of our national dish)

See you guys later :)

A proper haggis, with a whiskey/creme sauce, is a wonderful thing.

283 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:43:28pm

re: #281 publicityStunted

I think Lisa Simpson's take was more accurate.

She forgot the band aids.

/

284 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:43:35pm

re: #275 Big Steve

Yes...I know why they are banned...however phosphates being amphipathic have a polar and non polar moiety in the same molecule allowing them to be both hydrophobic and hydrophillic at the same time so they are the true bisexuals of the chemistry world. This allows them to solublize fats and oils and such and stay water soluable. One of the truly fascinating uses of entropy. So they clean like a m'fin riot. In addition, that partial soluability leaves the particles every so slightly as emulsions rather than true solutions so they carry momentum and literally chip particles off of dishes. And yes I do have a chemistry degree...


They are great for a large number of applications. Unfortunately that doesn't really change that even a small amount can wreak havoc on various ecosystems. Phosphate is a critical component in biology. Being depleted in many environments it is the limiting nutrient and the addition of even small amounts can lead to explosive growth in certain organisms. Phosphates contribute to the eutrophication and in some cases anoxia of freshwater lakes and rivers.

re: #273 Decatur Deb

With a little plumbing tittivation, the phosphate could wind up in his locovore garden, where it might do some good.


Very good point. Along with composting and other techniques people can recover many of the excess nutrients they produce.

285 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:43:52pm

"All haggis tastes like ass anyway."
"Aye, but in the right hands it can taste like mighty fine ass."

//

286 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:46:15pm

re: #285 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

"All haggis tastes like ass anyway."
"Aye, but in the right hands it can taste like mighty fine ass."

//

Remember when you had to eat whatever your mom made for dinner? One day my mom brought home some sheep brains. Just looking at the package brought terror to my eyes. Sure enough. We had to eat it. Fortunately she never made it again.

287 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:47:27pm

Hey mom what's for dinner?!

We're having roasted esophagus wrapped in bacon!

[Stunned silence.]

288 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:47:43pm

re: #284 prononymous

Yeah--the trick is to keep good stuff in places where it doesn't act like bad stuff.

289 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:49:39pm

re: #287 Gus 802

Hey mom what's for dinner?!

We're having roasted esophagus wrapped in bacon!

[Stunned silence.]

Tomorrow it's pan fried goat spleen with a side order of chicken appendixes!

//

290 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:49:48pm

re: #286 Gus 802

Remember when you had to eat whatever your mom made for dinner? One day my mom brought home some sheep brains. Just looking at the package brought terror to my eyes. Sure enough. We had to eat it. Fortunately she never made it again.

With me, it was figured out ways to make it at least palatable. Like eating collard greens with a good helping of yellow mustard.

291 Big Steve  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:52:51pm

re: #284 prononymous

Very good point. Along with composting and other techniques people can recover many of the excess nutrients they produce.


as a young Big Steve working for a major oil company in Los Angeles, I invented a process that eliminated over 1 million pounds of TOC (total organic carbon) out of the plants wastewater discharged per year. My name alone was on the patent. This process was adopted initially by the six refineries in my company and then was eventually sold across the industry. My guess is that my inventory has reduced the pollution load across the US by a half billion pounds in the last 20 years. So do I get a pass on using 10 grams of tri-sodium phosphate per week?

292 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:53:21pm

re: #290 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

With me, it was figured out ways to make it at least palatable. Like eating collard greens with a good helping of yellow mustard.

At our boarding school, the rule was that each table of 6 kids, among them, had to eat everything that arrived at the table. It worked for years until the Cook Nun produced rhubarb pie. Cause a near riot, and kids were offering each other prized toys to those who could stomach extra shares.

293 Varek Raith  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:53:53pm

re: #47 NJDhockeyfan

Hurrhurrderpderpderp.

294 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:54:35pm

re: #254 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh. Dear. God.

Youtube Video

I've been avoiding it, but it must be done-- for love!

295 lawhawk  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:55:02pm

re: #146 Big Steve

Not a scumbag, but you might be better off using detergents that work - Cascade Complete All In 1 pacs (28 cents per load), Ecover tablets (27 cents), Finish Powerball Tabs tablets (22 cents), and Method Smarty Dish tablets (21 cents) - all fared quite well in Consumer Reports' tests of detergents. Those are all reformulated as phosphate free.

Another option is to make sure that you add vinegar or lemon juice to your load - it helps reduce scale and buildup. And if you have hard water - make sure to use a rinse agent like Finish (formerly known as Jet Dry).

296 lawhawk  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:55:45pm

re: #287 Gus 802

Andrew Zimmern.... is that you? /

297 Big Steve  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:57:16pm

re: #295 lawhawk

Not a scumbag, but you might be better off using detergents that work - Cascade Complete All In 1 pacs (28 cents per load), Ecover tablets (27 cents), Finish Powerball Tabs tablets (22 cents), and Method Smarty Dish tablets (21 cents) - all fared quite well in Consumer Reports' tests of detergents. Those are all reformulated as phosphate free.

Another option is to make sure that you add vinegar or lemon juice to your load - it helps reduce scale and buildup. And if you have hard water - make sure to use a rinse agent like Finish (formerly known as Jet Dry).


Have tried them all......they are all noticibly less effective than when phosphates are in. The industry claims that newer designed dishwashers that will come on the market in the next few years will return to the previous state of clean without the phosphates.....but then one has to buy a new dishwasher.

298 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:57:17pm

re: #296 lawhawk

Andrew Zimmern... is that you? /

Mmmm mmmm. A sample...

Tongue sandwich, geoduck, live lobster, ceviche, pupusas, worm pretzels, maggot pupae, tarantula pops, teriyaki cockroaches, jellyfish salad, sea cucumber salad, goose intestine, frog congee, salo.

Cobra parts including beating heart and dried bones, civet dropping coffee, pig's ears, silk worms, scorpions, roasted sparrows, bull penis, horseshoe crab, hybrid duck, mantis prawn, ship worms, and sea snails.

299 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:57:30pm

re: #292 Decatur Deb

At our boarding school, the rule was that each table of 6 kids, among them, had to eat everything that arrived at the table. It worked for years until the Cook Nun produced rhubarb pie. Cause a near riot, and kids were offering each other prized toys to those who could stomach extra shares.

Heh, must have been pure pandemonium.

300 Jimmah  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:57:46pm

re: #282 austin_blue

A proper haggis, with a whiskey/creme sauce, is a wonderful thing.

Hi austin (quick break from cooking)! Sorry we missed you on your recent visit to the UK. Been busy with new job etc. Hopefully we'll still be able to have that pint sometime.

(runs back into kitchen)

301 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:58:23pm

re: #298 Gus 802

Mmmm mmm. A sample...

...Think I just threw up a bit in my mouth.

302 lawhawk  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:58:55pm

re: #298 Gus 802

I take exception with the tongue sandwich.... growing up in a Jewish household, that was part and parcel of a proper deli spread - as was the kishka.

303 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 12:59:15pm

re: #301 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Too Much Info.

304 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:00:31pm

re: #302 lawhawk

I take exception with the tongue sandwich... growing up in a Jewish household, that was part and parcel of a proper deli spread - as was the kishka.

Yeah. Some of that isn't terribly "tragic". Lengua is pretty common in Mexico.

305 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:00:36pm

The only way this very slightly right of center person, now called a liberal by his 'peers', would ever kill anyone would be in a last ditch defense of my country and it's constitutional rights. As has probably become obvious to even the most blissfully oblivious commentator or pundit it is the right that currently advocates violence and social/political otherthrow to achieve their aims, and that some do it almost constantly.

In the same breath that most accuse the 'left' of totalitarian dreams and a predilection towards using force to enforce 'socialistic' ideals they also assure their followers that they (we?) are basically just anti-gun/pacifists and would offer no real Resistance to their New Reich.

///Cognitive dissonance is nothing new or disturbing to these people it seems...

306 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:00:56pm

re: #292 Decatur Deb

At our boarding school, the rule was that each table of 6 kids, among them, had to eat everything that arrived at the table. It worked for years until the Cook Nun produced rhubarb pie. Cause a near riot, and kids were offering each other prized toys to those who could stomach extra shares.

What happened if your table team could not finish a food delivery? Did you get the Comfy Chair?

307 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:02:04pm

re: #291 Big Steve

as a young Big Steve working for a major oil company in Los Angeles, I invented a process that eliminated over 1 million pounds of TOC (total organic carbon) out of the plants wastewater discharged per year. My name alone was on the patent. This process was adopted initially by the six refineries in my company and then was eventually sold across the industry. My guess is that my inventory has reduced the pollution load across the US by a half billion pounds in the last 20 years. So do I get a pass on using 10 grams of tri-sodium phosphate per week?

Nope. Thank you for developing such a wonderful technology. Using a product in an environmentally harmful way is a separate issue though.

It depends on what you do with it. If you just let it go down the drain you get a frown from me, but with recognition of the relative low scale of pollution compared to agriculture, for example. If you run it out to a collection barrel and then use it to water your yard/garden/whatever then you get a pass, and I even support this course of action (take precautions against mosquitoes!).

308 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:02:34pm

re: #299 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Heh, must have been pure pandemonium.

I would have run away, lived in the woods while building and racing wooden go-carts and start the "He Man Woman Haters Club".

//

309 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:03:09pm

re: #302 lawhawk

I take exception with the tongue sandwich... growing up in a Jewish household, that was part and parcel of a proper deli spread - as was the kishka.

I never liked tongue, neither does Zedushka, so it was never served in my house. However my son was visiting another household for Shabbos and tongue was served there. He was enchanted. What is this meat? It is so tasty, and so soft!

My daughter-in-law prepares excellent tongue, but I still will not serve it in my own kitchen.

310 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:03:14pm

re: #306 Alouette

What happened if your table team could not finish a food delivery? Did you get the Comfy Chair?

The entire student body just sat there and waited for the laggards. That was more effective at lunch and supper, because they were followed by free playtime.

311 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:04:14pm

re: #308 Gus 802

I would have run away, lived in the woods while building and racing wooden go-carts and start the "He Man Womaen Haters Club".

//

Youtube Video
312 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:04:44pm

re: #308 Gus 802

I would have run away, lived in the woods while building and racing wooden go-carts and start the "He Man Woman Haters Club".

//

I'd have gone to the woods, fought the Soviet hordes for a few months, then died heroically, so as to be remembered years later as a patriot...or was that just a movie I feel asleep watching last night?

//

313 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:04:59pm

"strange" things I've eaten and liked:

Escargot
Pickled lamb's tongue
Sea Urchin (sushi)
liverwurst (some call it strange)
Frog legs
Alligator
fresh Chicharron
chicken stomachs
Birria (shredded goat meat in a bbq sauce)

"strange" things I've eaten and am not big on:

pigs feet
chicken feet
Menudo (not a fan of tripe)
Buche (it's not bad but not good either)
pickled cow tongue (too damn big)

314 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:06:04pm

::: running for the chuck bucket :::

315 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:06:22pm

oh and cooked cow's tongue is ok.

316 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:06:31pm

re: #314 PhillyPretzel

::: running for the chuck bucket :::

Care for an after-dinner mint?

//

317 Obdicut  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:06:32pm

re: #313 Dreggas

I really, really like witchetty grubs.

They're delicious.

Image: bugs-01.jpg

318 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:07:10pm

re: #313 Dreggas

I really like liverwurst and braunschweiger.

319 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:07:42pm

re: #316 Gus 802
After "dinner" drink, please.

320 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:08:30pm

re: #318 Gus 802

I really like liverwurst and braunschweiger.

Are they the same thing? I thought they were.

321 Winny Spencer  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:08:48pm

So is this turning out to be a good friday for most of you guys?

322 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:08:50pm

re: #320 wrenchwench

they pretty much are.

323 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:09:18pm

re: #320 wrenchwench

Are they the same thing? I thought they were.

Yep. Braunschweiger is a type of liverwurst.

Of course I had to check the spelling on that. ;)

324 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:09:50pm

re: #323 Gus 802

Yep. Braunschweiger is a type of liverwurst.

Of course I had to check the spelling on that. ;)

i thought it was just the german name for liver wurst lol.

325 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:10:13pm

re: #321 Winny Spencer

So is this turning out to be a good friday for most of you guys?

Yeah ,, all except that one guy

I think he's Spanish

His name is Jesus!
/

326 Varek Raith  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:10:19pm

Quran-Burning Pastor's Gun Accidentally Goes Off In Michigan

What an idiot.

327 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:10:44pm

re: #324 Dreggas

i thought it was just the german name for liver wurst lol.

Looking now... German for liverwurst would be Leberwurst.

328 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:11:05pm

Do banks all around the country close for Good Friday, or is it just here in NM?

329 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:11:19pm

re: #315 Dreggas

oh and cooked cow's tongue is ok.

Tried it out of curiosity, but had a weird painful reaction. It felt/tasted like it was shot through with oxalic acid crystals. Might have been a bad serving.

330 Stanghazi  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:11:50pm

re: #328 wrenchwench

Do banks all around the country close for Good Friday, or is it just here in NM?

I think ours are open. I just got home though, YAY HALF DAY!

331 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:12:04pm

re: #328 wrenchwench
My credit union is closed.

332 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:12:12pm

re: #327 Gus 802

Looking now... German for liverwurst would be Leberwurst.

It would be the style of liver wurst from Braunsweig.

333 Varek Raith  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:12:46pm

re: #328 wrenchwench

Do banks all around the country close for Good Friday, or is it just here in NM?

Banks.
Pffttt...
They use any excuse to close early, or not to open at all.
Useless!
:)

334 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:13:44pm

re: #293 Varek Raith

I think that clip is hysterical.

I think those people are pretty ridiculous.

Sorry.

335 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:13:47pm

re: #326 Varek Raith
Always remember to put the safety on when transporting your firearm.

336 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:13:55pm

re: #333 Varek Raith

Banks.
Pffttt...
They use any excuse to close early, or not to open at all.
Useless!
:)

Remember back in '29, when they made that excuse about the stock market crashing to keep closed for so long? Lazy bastards.

///

337 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:14:50pm

re: #335 PhillyPretzel

Always remember to put the safety on when transporting your firearm.

You don't need no stinkin' 'safety' when you're on a mission from god.

338 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:14:54pm

re: #332 Decatur Deb

It would be the style of liver wurst from Braunsweig.

Braunschweigerleberwursthersteller!

//Made that up.

339 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:14:55pm

re: #300 Jimmah

Hi austin (quick break from cooking)! Sorry we missed you on your recent visit to the UK. Been busy with new job etc. Hopefully we'll still be able to have that pint sometime.

(runs back into kitchen)

Didn't make it down to London this trip. Stayed in Edinburgh for seven nights and then down to Beds for four days before departing out of T4 at The Hell That Is Heathrow for home. Great trip. Great music. The Poozies were shit hot.

Oh, and we did this:

[Link: birdsofpreycentre.co.uk...]

which was pure brilliance.

340 Varek Raith  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:15:50pm

re: #334 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think that clip is hysterical.

I think those people are pretty ridiculous.

Sorry.

On its own, sure.
But we know for a fact that he thinks AGW is bullshit.
;)

341 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:16:15pm

re: #338 Gus 802

Braunschweigerleberwursthersteller!

//Made that up.

Ich bin ein Berliner!

//

342 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:16:46pm

re: #341 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Ich bin ein Berliner!

//

Eat me I'm a doughnut!

//

343 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:17:21pm

re: #337 Decatur Deb
I always use the safety.

344 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:18:54pm

re: #340 Varek Raith

It's a great clip, though.

Waddya wanna bet those people all drive SUBARU FORESTERS!

GRRR...

345 Varek Raith  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:19:15pm

re: #335 PhillyPretzel

Always remember to put the safety on when transporting your firearm.

Yep, he nearly shot himself in the foot.

346 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:19:54pm

re: #342 Gus 802

Eat me I'm a doughnut!

//

Er...I'm a jelly doughnut. Apparently that's an urban legend and he was correct? I don't keep up with these things.

347 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:20:46pm

re: #326 Varek Raith

Quran-Burning Pastor's Gun Accidentally Goes Off In Michigan

What an idiot.

"Shi shaw!"
-Dale Gribble

348 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:20:47pm

re: #344 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That was not funny. My dad has a Subaru Forester.

349 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:21:09pm

re: #346 Gus 802

Er...I'm a jelly doughnut. Apparently that's an urban legend and he was correct? I don't keep up with these things.

In the last version I saw, he was correct for the local dialect.

350 Varek Raith  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:21:24pm

re: #344 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Vrrroommmm
Image: RedneckTank.jpg

351 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:21:26pm

re: #302 lawhawk

I take exception with the tongue sandwich...

I've always felt weird about tasting something that could taste you back...

352 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:22:11pm

re: #351 Charles
It is a bit odd.

353 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:22:20pm

re: #350 Varek Raith

Vrrroommm
Image: RedneckTank.jpg

Greetings from the Humongous! The Lord Humongous!

//

354 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:22:54pm

re: #348 PhillyPretzel

Please tell him to drive the posted speed limit. I get stuck behind Foresters all of the time that are going 5-15 miles UNDER THE SPEED LIMIT!

(Like I did today...15 under).

355 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:23:01pm

re: #351 Charles

I've always felt weird about tasting something that could taste you back...

Thought like that until I dated a New York girl.

356 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:23:31pm

re: #355 Decatur Deb

Thought like that until I dated a New York girl.

Thwack!

357 Lidane  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:23:48pm

I'm so liberal I'm currently getting an MBA. By Fischer's "logic" I guess that proves I hate capitalism and business. Or something.

WTF? I can't make sense of his rant at all.

358 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:24:28pm

re: #355 Decatur Deb
::: pulling out cast iron frying pan :::

359 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:24:44pm

re: #357 Lidane

I'm so liberal I'm currently getting an MBA. By Fischer's "logic" I guess that proves I hate capitalism and business. Or something.

WTF? I can't make sense of his rant at all.

Don't liberals have to take a vow of poverty?

/

360 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:24:59pm

re: #351 Charles

(To the tune of the hymn "Oh For A Thousand Tongues To Sing")

Do not feed me a cattle tongue
I do not wish to snack
On any food, no not a thing
That just might taste me back.

361 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:25:52pm

re: #358 PhillyPretzel

::: pulling out cast iron frying pan :::

Hit the deck! *Dives for cover*

362 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:26:21pm

re: #357 Lidane

After the MBA and you're making the big bucks? We'll talk about that liberal thang.

363 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:26:50pm

re: #350 Varek Raith

Vrrroommm
Image: RedneckTank.jpg

Stylin'!

364 blueraven  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:27:44pm

re: #47 NJDhockeyfan

Afternoon lizards!

This is just a drive-by post. It's Earth Day so I wanted to post my favorite video clip related to this awesome day.

[Video]Back to work...cheerio!

Here is the counterpart. Yes, those people are extreme and silly, but they pale in comparison to the idiots that bring about these kind of disasters.

Happy Earth Day!

[Link: www.newsweek.com...]

365 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:27:49pm

GM mosquitoes offer malaria hope

Not that GM.

366 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:28:29pm

re: #350 Varek Raith

Vrrroommm
Image: RedneckTank.jpg

How did you get a picture of my car?

367 Lidane  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:28:43pm

re: #362 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

After the MBA and you're making the big bucks? We'll talk about that liberal thang.

I have to survive the next year of grad school first. I can't think that far ahead. Heh.

Still, the chances of me voting Republican anytime soon are pretty much nil, so at worst, I'll become a Blue Dog if I start making money. ;)

368 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:29:17pm

re: #364 blueraven

That wasn't fun at all!
/

369 Obdicut  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:29:21pm

re: #362 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The more money I make, the more 'liberal' I become.

370 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:29:33pm

re: #361 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Be thankful I didn't unscrew the knob on my LeCreuset pot lid. :)

371 Kragar  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:29:47pm

re: #350 Varek Raith

Vrrroommm
Image: RedneckTank.jpg

I can beat that.

Youtube Video
372 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:30:15pm

re: #367 Lidane

Fuckin' fantastic response.

I knew I liked you!

373 Lidane  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:30:54pm

re: #359 Gus 802

Don't liberals have to take a vow of poverty?

/

I already did. It's called "taking out federal student loans". I'll be poor and paying them off for at least a decade after I graduate. =P

374 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:31:28pm

re: #357 Lidane

I'm so liberal I'm currently getting an MBA. By Fischer's "logic" I guess that proves I hate capitalism and business. Or something.

WTF? I can't make sense of his rant at all.

It is incoherent, isn't it? And howdy, Homegirl.

Half price Appies at El Chile's (BSR and Dawson) from 5 to 7. They are *really* good.

Oh, and She Who Must Be Obeyed is playing at the Green Mesquite tomorrow.

375 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:31:47pm

re: #373 Lidane
Yes. They are the worst.

376 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:33:34pm

re: #370 PhillyPretzel

Be thankful I didn't unscrew the knob on my LeCreuset pot lid. :)

Oh, I am, I am!

377 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:33:38pm

re: #359 Gus 802

Don't liberals have to take a vow of poverty?

/

Yes. Didn't work for me. People kept kept paying me filthy lucre for good deeds done. Go figure.

378 Lidane  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:37:24pm

Hahahaha....

Fox News And Catholic League’s Bill Donohue Invent ‘War On Easter’

379 Stanghazi  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:37:46pm

re: #364 blueraven

Here is the counterpart. Yes, those people are extreme and silly, but they pale in comparison to the idiots that bring about these kind of disasters.

Happy Earth Day!

[Link: www.newsweek.com...]

My take is that the anti environmental people are just totally basing their position on politics. We don't like you liberals, and we believe liberals love the environment. That's it. It's so asinine.

The good thing is that young kids are so into protecting the environment, hell my friend's 11 year old niece is a veggie! So the old school will die out.

380 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:42:57pm

re: #379 Stanley Sea

My take is that the anti environmental people are just totally basing their position on politics. We don't like you liberals, and we believe liberals love the environment. That's it. It's so asinine.

The good thing is that young kids are so into protecting the environment, hell my friend's 11 year old niece is a veggie! So the old school will die out.

Probably a psychological response going back to childhood. Or in the way children sometimes do or become the opposite of their parents. The friend of my enemy is my enemy!

381 Kragar  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:43:11pm

re: #379 Stanley Sea

The good thing is that young kids are so into protecting the environment, hell my friend's 11 year old niece is a veggie! So the old school will die out.

Why do you think the conservs want to gut the Dept of Education?

382 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:43:44pm

re: #326 Varek Raith

Quran-Burning Pastor's Gun Accidentally Goes Off In Michigan

What an idiot.

That's sort of a metaphor for the whole Terry Jones experience, isn't it?

383 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:44:27pm

re: #328 wrenchwench

Do banks all around the country close for Good Friday, or is it just here in NM?

Not out here they aren't.

People must be more pious in your neck of the woods.

384 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:44:59pm

re: #335 PhillyPretzel

Always remember to put the safety on when transporting your firearm.

Good advice.

385 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:45:42pm

re: #337 Decatur Deb

You don't need no stinkin' 'safety' when you're on a mission from god.

"There were no such thing as 'safety' when I were a lad."

And that comes to you direct from Bert Baxter, World War II vet.

386 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:46:44pm

re: #341 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Ich bin ein Berliner!

//

I was intrigued to discover that in a German bakery, an "Amerikaner" is a sugar cookie, frosted half chocolate, half white frosting.

387 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:47:36pm

re: #345 Varek Raith

Yep, he nearly shot himself in the foot.

Which could have been fatal, given that he's always putting his foot in his mouth.

Why do I get the feeling that the biggest threat to this man is NOT radical Islam, but his own stupidity?

388 Gus  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:48:11pm

Re-Tweeted by Sandmonkey!

@njrazd @Sandmonkey - The Republicans not President Obama or the Dems screwed the American people!!!

Stand by for wingnut butthurt.

389 RadicalModerate  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:49:45pm

In case people think that I tend to pick on only Republican nutcases:

From Jacksonville, Florida - City Council candidate Kimberly Daniels, a Democrat, has gone full-bore loon in recent interviews, spouting anti-Semitic, pro-slavery, and anti-gay rhetoric that would make Brian Fischer proud.

FL Candidate Believes Jews Own Everything, Demons Hide in Candy

Some recent quotes:

I thank God for slavery. Mmm. I thank God for the crack house. If it wasn’t for the crack house, come on somebody, God wouldn’t a never been able to use me how he can use me know. And if it wasn’t for slavery I might be somewhere in Africa worshiping a tree! [...]

You can talk about the Holocaust, but the Jews own everything.

[Praying for Obama that God the prayers of her faithful will] break every soul tie and vow that has been established between him and Harvard, secret societies and the illuminati…

and

expose the work of every witch, sorcerer, spiritualist or person from the dark side operating through his cabinet members or through anyone else closely associated with him.

As if all this wasn't enough craziness, Daniels want to remind us of the dangers of Halloween candy and the holiday itself.


most of the candy sold during this season has been dedicated and prayed over by witches.

I do not buy candy during the Halloween season. Curses are sent through the tricks and treats of the innocent whether they get it by going door to door or by purchasing it from the local grocery store. The demons cannot tell the difference…
The danger of Halloween is not in the scary things we see but in the secret, wicked, cruel activities that go on behind the scenes. These activities include:

* Sex with demons
* Orgies between animals and humans
* Animal and human sacrifices
* Sacrificing babies to shed innocent blood
* Rape and molestation of adults, children and babies
* Revel nights
* Conjuring of demons and casting of spells
* Release of “time-released” curses against the innocent and the ignorant.”

Needless to say, party officials are requesting that she step down from her candidacy.

390 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:51:10pm

re: #378 Lidane

Hahahaha...

Fox News And Catholic League’s Bill Donohue Invent ‘War On Easter’

Oh for the love of...

Well, time for a reread of this War on Christmas Classic:

Jesus May Be the Reason for the Season, However, Jesus is Not the Reason You Are Shopping at Dick's

Companies are not “censoring Christmas” because “censoring” does not mean “failing to utter the message I wanted you to utter.” Moreover, the obsession with what our merchants say about Christmas — rather than focusing on what we say to our kids at home and at church about Christmas — misses the point of Christmas entirely. It’s like saying that we don’t focus enough on Easter representing the death and resurrection of Christ and His transcendent sacrifice, and we ought to remedy that by making more chocolate Jesuses and fewer chocolate rabbits. It’s like saying that, instead of throwing the moneylenders and dove-sellers out of the temple, Jesus ought to have told them to hand out free copies of His Sermon on the Mount with each purchase. We’re told repeatedly — and correctly, I think — that Christian education begins in the home and continues at church. It’s counterproductive to dilute that message by telling kids, in effect, that they also ought to look for spirituality in the food court. The mall is always going to be about commerce, and commerce is not about Christ, and it’s sheer lunacy to think otherwise.

391 Lidane  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:51:42pm

re: #389 RadicalModerate

Needless to say, party officials are requesting that she step down from her candidacy.

That's because the Democrats actually work to marginalize their whackaloons when they can.

392 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:53:10pm

re: #389 RadicalModerate

In case people think that I tend to pick on only Republican nutcases:

From Jacksonville, Florida - City Council candidate Kimberly Daniels, a Democrat, has gone full-bore loon in recent interviews, spouting anti-Semitic, pro-slavery, and anti-gay rhetoric that would make Brian Fischer proud.

FL Candidate Believes Jews Own Everything, Demons Hide in Candy

Some recent quotes:

As if all this wasn't enough craziness, Daniels want to remind us of the dangers of Halloween candy and the holiday itself.

Needless to say, party officials are requesting that she step down from her candidacy.

Oh my God. Where do they FIND these people?

393 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 4:58:08pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

By the way I hate to violate Godwin but people like Fischer's rhetoric regarding liberals really is not too different from Streicher and Goebells. It wouldn't shock me if Fischer eventually called for violence against liberals.

He could do it under the guise of evangelism, and then quote something out of context from the Old Testament.

394 MinisterO  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 5:51:32pm

re: #47 NJDhockeyfan

Afternoon lizards!

This is just a drive-by post. It's Earth Day so I wanted to post my favorite video clip related to this awesome day.

[Video]Back to work...cheerio!

This is why people think you're a douchebag.


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