Sen. Jon Kyl Erases His Planned Parenthood Lie from the Congressional Record

When GOP politicians lie, they just make it disappear

PoliticsApril 2011 • Views: 29,218

Remember Jon Kyl’s ridiculous lie, stated on the floor of the US Senate during the Republican push to destroy Planned Parenthood, that abortions are “well over 90 percent of what Planned Parenthood does?” (The real number is three percent.) And when it was pointed out that Kyl simply lied, remember the even more ridiculous spin from his office that “his remark was not intended to be a factual statement?”

Well, you may think you remember it, but the Congressional Record has been “amended.”

The original statement from Kyl: “If you want an abortion you go to Planned Parenthood and that’s well over 90 percent of what Planned Parenthood does.”

After Kyl amended his remarks, the congressional record now reads: “If you want an abortion you go to Planned Parenthood and that is what Planned Parenthood does.”

I thought the Congressional Record was supposed to be the record of what was said in Congress. But apparently, GOP politicians feel this is a living document that can be amended at will — especially when you’ve blurted out an embarrassing lie and gotten caught at it.

UPDATE at 4/22/11 1:59:13 pm

Kyl’s “revision” of his blatant lie was first noticed here: Daily Kos: Kyl revises Congressional Record to omit ‘well over 90% of what Planned Parenthood does’ is abortion.

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115 comments

jamesfirecat Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:36:09pm

Clearly it was not intended to be a recordable statement.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:37:17pm

Congress has a memory hole?

Congress certainly should not have a memory hole.

Targetpractice Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:40:03pm

“I said something immensely stupid on the floor of Congress. Do I admit to my stupidity? Fuck now, I simply throw it down the memory hole and hope nobody remembers when it’s time to run for reelection.”

Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:40:15pm

Now he has gone from claiming 90% was abortions and made it sound like 100%

We need a new neologism: “Kyling”. As to miss a factual statement by at least 87%, then claim it was not meant as a factual statement, and then alter the record to cover it up.

Kragar Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:40:42pm

I’m sure he would have amended the statement even if no one had caught him in the lie once someone pointed out his error.

///

Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:41:08pm

re: #3 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

“I said something immensely stupid on the floor of Congress. Do I admit to my stupidity? Fuck now, I simply throw it down the memory hole and hope nobody remembers when it’s time to run for reelection.”

Sad to have to say that this will have little effect on his chances of getting reelected from his district.

lawhawk Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:42:50pm

The Congressional Record is regularly amended and changed by members to suit their whims. They can correct the record as they see fit - and frequently do as per the rules that allow members to revise and extend their remarks.

Stanghazi Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:44:08pm

Who is the damn parliamentarian? How did this occur? I believe this goes against Robert’s Rules. GAH

Robert’s Rules of Order, adjust as needed.

Targetpractice Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:45:37pm

re: #4 ralphieboy

Now he has gone from claiming 90% was abortions and made it sound like 100%

We need a new neologism: “Kyling”. As to miss a factual statement by at least 87%, then claim it was not meant as a factual statement, and then alter the record to cover it up.

Kyling (verb):

1. To go to elaborate lengths to cover up your own stupidity by compounding it.

2. To completely forget that the Internet Age has made such cover ups practically impossible.

mr.fusion Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:46:02pm

apparently, GOP politicians feel this is a living document that can be amended at will

awesome

PhillyPretzel Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:46:59pm

re: #9 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
::: calling American Heritage Dictionary editorial staff :::

Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:47:08pm

Well, i wonder if CSPAN will be edited to remove the remarks and we’ll see take down notices sent to youtube to try to erase this totally from the interwebs.

Whatever happen to the good ole days when a simple, “I was mistaken” would have sufficed.

I mean heck, I’d even take a ‘I was wrong when I quoted over 90 percent, when in truth it’s 3 percent but any money goes to abortion in planned parenthood is too much.’ At least then he could admit a mistake and keep hammering the point he was trying to make without looking like a passive aggressive ass.

blueraven Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:48:02pm

re: #7 lawhawk

The Congressional Record is regularly amended and changed by members to suit their whims. They can correct the record as they see fit - and frequently do as per the rules that allow members to revise and extend their remarks.

Well just because it is accepted practice doesn’t make it right to lie on the floor of the senate and then erase the lie in the official record.
So anyone can just say whatever the hell they please, even knowingly lie, during a debate on the issues and get away with it. That sucks.

Stanghazi Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:48:39pm

re: #7 lawhawk

The Congressional Record is regularly amended and changed by members to suit their whims. They can correct the record as they see fit - and frequently do as per the rules that allow members to revise and extend their remarks.

Ah, I missed your comment.

Amazing though to me.

Lidane Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:49:16pm

Dear Sen. Kyl—

Erase as much as you want. The intertubes are forever.

Sincerely,
2011

PhillyPretzel Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:50:05pm

re: #15 Lidane
He might try to erase those too.

Wozza Matter? Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:51:50pm

I’ve said a tonne of idiotic shit in my life - I just never knew I had to be in congress to achieve absolution for it.

Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:51:52pm

re: #7 lawhawk

The Congressional Record is regularly amended and changed by members to suit their whims. They can correct the record as they see fit - and frequently do as per the rules that allow members to revise and extend their remarks.

Anyone who decides to strike their remarks after the fact to avoid the consequences of their remarks is still being mendacious. Democrat, Republican, doesn’t matter. Extending and explaining, I understand. Changing the record of what you actually said? I understand they can do it, but I still have every right to rip a congressman for doing, regardless of political affiliation.

Targetpractice Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:51:54pm

re: #16 PhillyPretzel

He might try to erase those too.

“Try” being the operative word. Unless he’s willing to go to the lengths of seizing home computers, he’s not going to get every last record of his stupidity. He’ll likely have to settle for amending the record, and hoping nobody brings up the matter again.

elizajane Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:52:14pm

The man must already live in a time warp. He is unaware that in the age of the internet, the things you really said never go away, whatever you ask the congressional record-keepers to do.

Varek Raith Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:53:02pm

Heh, thanks to the internet, this will never go away.

researchok Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:53:16pm

re: #13 blueraven

Well just because it is accepted practice doesn’t make it right to lie on the floor of the senate and then erase the lie in the official record.
So anyone can just say whatever the hell they please, even knowingly lie, during a debate on the issues and get away with it. That sucks.

You are surprised politicians regularly lie?

Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:53:29pm

re: #21 Varek Raith

Heh, thanks to the internet, this will never go away.

Thanks to Arizona voters, John Kyl will not go away until he retires…

austin_blue Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:54:44pm

re: #22 researchok

You are surprised politicians regularly lie?

I am shocked [shocked!!!] to read this question.

Varek Raith Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:54:49pm

re: #22 researchok

You are surprised politicians regularly lie?

Lie? No.
I’m just bemused at Kyl’s attempt to walk it back.
Lol.

researchok Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:55:52pm

re: #25 Varek Raith

Lie? No.
I’m just bemused at Kyl’s attempt to walk it back.
Lol.

I wasn’t surprised.

He’s just another in a long line.

Targetpractice Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:56:13pm

re: #25 Varek Raith

Lie? No.
I’m just bemused at Kyl’s attempt to walk it back.
Lol.

He’s not even attempting that. He’s trying to sweep it under the rug and act like it never happened.

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:56:19pm

I recall reading in one of Ruth McKinney’s books that the Congressional record was altered at some point during WWII, after some congressman had said some stuff about Eleanor Roosevelt on the floor of Congress that, in McKinney’s opinion, would have gotten you horsewhipped if you’d talked about someone’s wife like that anywhere else.

Funky_Gibbon Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:56:22pm

Hmm… that amendment doesn’t appear to factually improve his statement. You can now read and assume that 100% of what Planned Parenthood do is abortions.

austin_blue Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:56:41pm

re: #17 wozzablog

I’ve said a tonne of idiotic shit in my life - I just never knew I had to be in congress to achieve absolution for it.

Wozza-

Didn’t get to London this year. Sorry to miss you

A_B

Political Atheist Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:57:07pm

He can amend the record but not YouTube!

Youtube Video

RadicalModerate Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:57:09pm

Dang. TPM is getting slow on reporting these things.

Kyl actually amended his remarks last Friday, as reported by someone over at DKos.

[Link: www.dailykos.com…]

Varek Raith Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:58:37pm

Chris, everything I say is a lie. Except that. And that. And that. And…
-Peter Griffin.

nines09 Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:58:54pm

If scientific and proven facts don’t matter, and can be tossed aside, why should actual recorded words from your own mouth be any different?

austin_blue Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:59:13pm

re: #31 Rightwingconspirator

He can amend the record but not YouTube!

[Video]

Hyperbolic idiocy. Thanks for the clip.

RadicalModerate Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:59:26pm

re: #23 ralphieboy

Thanks to Arizona voters, John Kyl will not go away until he retires…

Fortunately, he’s retiring after this term.
[Link: voices.washingtonpost.com…]

Charles Johnson Fri, Apr 22, 2011 1:59:51pm

re: #32 RadicalModerate

Added that link as an update.

Charles Johnson Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:01:05pm

re: #10 mr.fusion

awesome

I wondered if anyone would catch that snide reference.

blueraven Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:02:08pm

re: #22 researchok

You are surprised politicians regularly lie?

No, not at all, but I am surprised by this rule that allows them to lie on the floor of the senate with impunity.

Targetpractice Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:02:23pm

re: #33 Varek Raith

Chris, everything I say is a lie. Except that. And that. And that. And…
-Peter Griffin.

The cake is a lie!

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:04:02pm

re: #7 lawhawk

Okay. That shocks me.

RadicalModerate Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:04:28pm

re: #40 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

The cake is a lie!

/

Old and busted: cake.

New hotness: potato.

Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:05:19pm

Can’t we add a similar feature to LGF quotes? It would make AGW debates a lot more interesting to follow…

PhillyPretzel Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:05:36pm

::: looking for spud gun :::

Kragar Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:08:09pm

re: #42 RadicalModerate

Old and busted: cake.

New hotness: potato.

Who can ever really say they don’t like pie? Everyone likes pie.

Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:08:32pm

re: #45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Who can ever really say they don’t like pie? Everyone likes pie.

As long as it is high enough

freetoken Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:08:36pm

Legislators, when standing to address their legislative bodies, at the start can heard mumbling quickly the perfunctory question along the lines of requesting permission to later amend remarks, which is automatically granted. Often omitted from sound bites heard on news, if one watches the streaming video (boring thought it may be) it comes off as a kind of genuflection without any apparent meaning.

However, in this case it becomes clear why they do this little ritual.

Varek Raith Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:08:59pm

I know know what to say when talking to anyone.

I’d ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks.

Awesome ‘get out of jail free’ phrase.

Varek Raith Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:09:35pm

re: #48 Varek Raith

I now know what to say when talking to anyone.

I’d ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks.

Awesome ‘get out of jail free’ phrase.

*Revises original statement.*
Huzzah
/

freetoken Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:11:04pm

re: #49 Varek Raith

heh

Kragar Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:12:54pm

re: #48 Varek Raith

I know know what to say when talking to anyone.

I’d ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks.

Awesome ‘get out of jail free’ phrase.

“I’d like to revise my original statement of ‘That dress kind of makes you look fat’ to ‘I think it looks great on you’”

RadicalModerate Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:14:14pm

Personally, I think that any edits of the Congressional Record should be documented fully - the whole what, where, when, and why of changes should apply.

freetoken Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:14:19pm

Franklin Graham looking to jump on the Trump bandwagon?

Maybe Trump is Right

PhillyPretzel Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:14:20pm

re: #51 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I am laughing so hard I am crying.

Stanghazi Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:16:45pm

re: #53 freetoken

Franklin Graham looking to jump on the Trump bandwagon?

Maybe Trump is Right

Another grifter riding the train.

Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:17:28pm

To note…

The Library of Congress website explains: “The Congressional record is not an exact record of the proceedings and debate in the House and Senate. As previously stated, it is a substantially verbatim report.” The operative phrase there: “it is a substantially verbatim report” — not a completely verbatim report. The explanation continues: “Members of both Houses are allowed to edit the transcript of their remarks before publication in the daily Record, permanent Record, or both.” And there’s a simple reason why. The Congressional Record is the official account of everything taking place inside the Senate and House every day that they’re in session. It is an historical document produced by the Government Printing Office. The right to revise its text was originally created to insert the full text of legislation that is often read only in part on the Senate floor, and of course to grammatically revise certain remarks, and to extend certain remarks, add thoughts that didn’t occur to the speaker while extemporaneously delivering those remarks.

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com…]

But only Republicans are allowed to do this.

JeffFX Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:20:59pm

re: #29 Funky_Gibbon

Hmm… that amendment doesn’t appear to factually improve his statement. You can now read and assume that 100% of what Planned Parenthood do is abortions.

I’m sure that’s not an accident.

zora Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:23:36pm

re: #53 freetoken

Franklin Graham looking to jump on the Trump bandwagon?

Maybe Trump is Right

unfuckingbelievable.

Kragar Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:24:02pm

re: #54 PhillyPretzel

I am laughing so hard I am crying.

I got a good laugh earlier from Victorian English gentlemen describing gangsta behavior

“Let us take my conveyance to his domicile and engage in a bout of pistolry whilst we call out the name of the domestic region from whence we came.”

Varek Raith Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:24:37pm

re: #59 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I got a good laugh earlier from Victorian English gentlemen describing gangsta behavior

“Let us take my conveyance to his domicile and engage in a bout of pistolry whilst we call out the name of the domestic region from whence we came.”

Lol.

Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:25:38pm

It is entirely legal and I’m sure democrats have done it (covered up lies) too.

Now, with the magical balance fairy and legal technicalities out of the way: Screw you Kyl. The internet will remember your scummy remarks even if the official record doesn’t.

Kragar Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:28:01pm

re: #60 Varek Raith

Lol.

“After which, we might toss denominations of currency no smaller than 100 into the air simulating precipitation whilst we compare the fairer sex to female dogs and ladies of ill repute.”

Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:34:07pm

re: #61 prononymous

It is entirely legal and I’m sure democrats have done it (covered up lies) too.

Now, with the magical balance fairy and legal technicalities out of the way: Screw you Kyl. The internet will remember your scummy remarks even if the official record doesn’t.

Just clearing this up for people who thought that the congressional record was supposed to be what was said in Congress.

Of course Kly lied, no one is questioning that.

Charles Johnson Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:37:34pm

re: #63 Walter L. Newton

Just clearing this up for people who thought that the congressional record was supposed to be what was said in Congress.

Of course Kly lied, no one is questioning that.

And the Congressional Record is the record of what was said in Congress.

Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:38:27pm

re: #64 Charles

And the Congressional Record is the record of what was said in Congress.

And it can be changed.

Charles Johnson Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:38:43pm

re: #65 Walter L. Newton

And it can be changed.

Well, duh.

PhillyPretzel Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:39:50pm

And here is the Cabela’s ad … where are those hip waders?

Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:40:59pm

Can we at least change the title to “The Record of Congressional not-intended-to-be-factual Statements”?

PhillyPretzel Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:41:50pm

re: #68 ralphieboy
Sounds good. I do not believe Congress will go for it.

Stanghazi Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:44:14pm

re: #68 ralphieboy

Can we at least change the title to “The Record of Congressional not-intended-to-be-factual Statements”?

re: #69 PhillyPretzel

Sounds good. I do not believe Congress will go for it.

It’s a joke.

PhillyPretzel Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:44:46pm

re: #70 Stanley Sea
I know.

Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:46:10pm

It is also mildly amusing to watch Kyl thrash around so cluelessly and so hard after damaging his party. He should keep on the look out for rage Boehners.

re: #63 Walter L. Newton

Just clearing this up for people who thought that the congressional record was supposed to be what was said in Congress.

Of course Kly lied, no one is questioning that.

And used it as a chance to inject the magical balance fairy into the discussion.

As I explained before, I’m not really interested in discussing anything with you or steve. You can further clarify your comments if you like, but I have found it futile so far. I will simply be rating your comments based on their face value, without the highly questionable “benefit” of further elucidation. Further discussion of points with you guys is just an invitation for more sarcasm, insults, and flamebaiting.

zora Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:46:29pm

it’s the “temporary congressional record, subject to be changed to whatever, whenever, and however congress chooses.” please don’t take the shit we say seriously.

love, congress

Stanghazi Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:47:31pm

re: #73 zora

it’s the “temporary congressional record, subject to be changed to whatever, whenever, and however congress chooses.” please don’t take the shit we say seriously.

love, congress

“We’re here to serve the people”

gah

Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:48:08pm

re: #72 prononymous

It is also mildly amusing to watch Kyl thrash around so cluelessly and so hard after damaging his party. He should keep on the look out for rage Boehners.

And used it as a chance to inject the magical balance fairy into the discussion.

As I explained before, I’m not really interested in discussing anything with you or steve. You can further clarify your comments if you like, but I have found it futile so far. I will simply be rating your comments based on their face value, without the highly questionable “benefit” of further elucidation. Further discussion of points with you guys is just an invitation for more sarcasm, insults, and flamebaiting.

What ever.

jaunte Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:50:09pm

From Laws and Rules for Publication of the Congressional Record:

9. Corrections. - The permanent Congressional Record is made up for printing and binding 30 days after each daily publication is issued: therefore all corrections must be sent to the Public Printer within that time: Provided, that upon the final adjournment of each session of Congress the time limit shall be 10 days, unless otherwise ordered by the committee: Provided further, that no Member of Congress shall be entitled to make more than one revision. Any revision shall consist only of corrections of the original copy and shall not include deletions of correct material, substitutions for correct material, or additions of new subject matter.
[Link: www.llsdc.org…]

Stanghazi Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:50:21pm

For you non-twitter followers, Charles’ tweet. The meme is GlennBeckFinalShowSpoilers. I guess we are not going to see him on the TV for a few months, hopefully.

Lizardoid Charles Johnson

Glenn Beck shaves his head to reveal a 666 birthmark #GlennBeckFinalShowSpoilers

Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:51:35pm

re: #76 jaunte

From Laws and Rules for Publication of the Congressional Record:

9. Corrections. - The permanent Congressional Record is made up for printing and binding 30 days after each daily publication is issued: therefore all corrections must be sent to the Public Printer within that time: Provided, that upon the final adjournment of each session of Congress the time limit shall be 10 days, unless otherwise ordered by the committee: Provided further, that no Member of Congress shall be entitled to make more than one revision. Any revision shall consist only of corrections of the original copy and shall not include deletions of correct material, substitutions for correct material, or additions of new subject matter.
[Link: [Link: www.llsdc.org…]…]

MBF?

Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:52:10pm

Off topic…

Why is Jesus wearing a ferris wheel on his head… ?

[Link: religion.blogs.cnn.com…]

PhillyPretzel Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:52:13pm

This is the tool needed for the Congressional Record. [Link: www.cabelas.com…]

jaunte Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:52:14pm

re: #78 Walter L. Newton

What?

Kragar Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:52:54pm

re: #79 Walter L. Newton

Off topic…

Why is Jesus wearing a ferris wheel on his head… ?

[Link: religion.blogs.cnn.com…]

Who says Jesus can’t advocate fun?

blueraven Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:53:36pm

re: #53 freetoken

Franklin Graham looking to jump on the Trump bandwagon?

Maybe Trump is Right

Franklin Graham is an evil man. There, I said it.

Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:54:38pm

re: #75 Walter L. Newton

What ever.

That’s real deep Walter. I can see I will be missing out on a bounty of enlightening conversation.

freetoken Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:54:54pm

re: #83 blueraven

Franklin Graham is an evil man. There, I said it.

Along similar lines… Bill O’ is starting to sound desperate:

O’Reilly: Can the GOP save Barack Obama?

zora Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:55:01pm

on glenn beck’s last show i fully expect him to let the audience know that he is the one they have been waiting for. details to follow will be on his radio show and website. there will be a small fee for followers as the caliphate, nwo, and barack hussien obama must be fought with money and might.

Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:55:38pm

re: #83 blueraven

Trump on foregn policy or “How to solve a problem short-term while creating decades of headache”:

[Link: www.newsmax.com…]

Stanghazi Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:57:29pm

Hmm, wondering if Iceweasel died from haggis?

freetoken Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:58:02pm

re: #87 ralphieboy

To The Donald, presidential politics is just another reality show.

Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:58:31pm

re: #89 freetoken

America has become a self-sustaining reality show

blueraven Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:58:59pm

re: #87 ralphieboy

Trump on foregn policy or “How to solve a problem short-term while creating decades of headache”:

[Link: www.newsmax.com…]

And oh yeah…Trump is an Idiot.

jaunte Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:59:25pm

re: #87 ralphieboy

Trump says “we should take their oil’ like it’s a lump of something you can stick in a suitcase and lug home.

Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Apr 22, 2011 3:00:05pm

In any case, the Wikipedia article indicates that Kyl does not plan to run for re-election once his term is up nor does he plan to continue a career in politics.

Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Fri, Apr 22, 2011 3:00:16pm

re: #90 ralphieboy

America has become a self-sustaining reality show

We were tired of paying for good writers. ///

PhillyPretzel Fri, Apr 22, 2011 3:00:17pm

re: #88 Stanley Sea
probably not.

Kragar Fri, Apr 22, 2011 3:00:45pm

re: #87 ralphieboy

Trump on foregn policy or “How to solve a problem short-term while creating decades of headache”:

[Link: www.newsmax.com…]

What a fucking idiot.

Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Apr 22, 2011 3:00:51pm

re: #92 jaunte

Trump says “we should take their oil’ like it’s a lump of something you can stick in a suitcase and lug home.

More importantly, he says it like its something that we have a right to up and take home.

zora Fri, Apr 22, 2011 3:01:58pm

re: #87 ralphieboy

Trump on foregn policy or “How to solve a problem short-term while creating decades of headache”:

[Link: www.newsmax.com…]

trump makes sarah palin look informed.

How Donald Trump’s 25% tariff on China could start trade war

Donald Trump’s call for a 25% tariff on Chinese goods is winning him a lot of attention as he weighs a presidential run in 2012.

But Trump seems to be overlooking the consequences that his economic policy would likely trigger: a destructive trade war and higher prices, according to some experts.
…Trump did not respond to numerous requests for comment on the criticism.

[Link: finance.yahoo.com…]

wrenchwench Fri, Apr 22, 2011 3:03:49pm

re: #93 ralphieboy

In any case, the Wikipedia article indicates that Kyl does not plan to run for re-election once his term is up nor does he plan to continue a career in politics.

I wonder who Arizona will come up with as a replacement. The possibilities are truly stunning.

100

Kragar Fri, Apr 22, 2011 3:05:12pm

re: #99 wrenchwench

I wonder who Arizona will come up with as a replacement. The possibilities are truly stunning.

Knowing AZ, I’m sure one of their Cowboy sheriffs could make a go of it.

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justaminute Fri, Apr 22, 2011 3:05:51pm

Changes that are made should be annotated and footnotes to the original record.

102

albusteve Fri, Apr 22, 2011 3:07:34pm

so the con record is corrupt…imagine that
who corrupts the record?
congressman, the people we pay to lead us….
I have zero faith, never did….for all the fools and naive voters…
DUH?

103

Stanghazi Fri, Apr 22, 2011 3:07:45pm

re: #93 ralphieboy

In any case, the Wikipedia article indicates that Kyl does not plan to run for re-election once his term is up nor does he plan to continue a career in politics.

Good riddance. Lucky Arizona.

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wrenchwench Fri, Apr 22, 2011 3:08:32pm

re: #100 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Knowing AZ, I’m sure one of their Cowboy sheriffs could make a go of it.

Or Senate President Russell Pearce, of SB1070 fame.

Oh, wait:

Arizona Senate President Russell Pearce on Thursday amended nine years of financial disclosure forms, listing numerous previously unreported trips provided by the Fiesta Bowl and a national legislative group.

He might be in trouble. Is amending nine years of financial “disclosures” worse than amending the Congressional Record?

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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Fri, Apr 22, 2011 3:09:06pm

The congressional record: the first WikiCongress. Unfortunately it doesn’t have a revision history. :(

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Stanghazi Fri, Apr 22, 2011 3:10:00pm

re: #104 wrenchwench

Or Senate President Russell Pearce, of SB1070 fame.

Oh, wait:

He might be in trouble. Is amending nine years of financial “disclosures” worse than amending the Congressional Record?

The Fiesta Bowl scandal has been an interesting thing to follow.

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recusancy Fri, Apr 22, 2011 3:10:05pm

re: #105 prononymous

The congressional record: the first WikiCongress. Unfortunately it doesn’t have a revision history. :(

It does. It’s called youtube.

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albusteve Fri, Apr 22, 2011 3:10:39pm

re: #104 wrenchwench

Or Senate President Russell Pearce, of SB1070 fame.

Oh, wait:

He might be in trouble. Is amending nine years of financial “disclosures” worse than amending the Congressional Record?

he may claim ignorance….but that would be the truth

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Stanghazi Fri, Apr 22, 2011 3:12:21pm

re: #108 albusteve