Fact Checking Breitbart’s Camp Followers - The Sandwich Board Assumption

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I was going to ignore the latest claims of Andrew Breitbart’s flying monkeys, as they desperately tried to pretend that they “totally discredited” my post fact-checking Breitbart’s lies about the leaked Rep. Weiner photograph. I’ve learned that there’s no point in engaging these people with arguments or logic; they just get more and more irrational, then end up peeing on the carpet (figuratively speaking) and storming off, spewing insults.

But I realized that this case is a great example of the distortion tactics of the right wing. So let’s take a little trip into the wingnut weeds, shall we?

The LGF post that struck a huge nerve in the right wing blogosphere this week, and garnered more than 3600 retweets to date: Fact Checking Breitbart’s Statement on the Leaked Photo.

Andrew Breitbart camp follower Lee Stranahan is our case in point. This week he’s been spinning like an Iranian centrifuge, trying to deflect attention away from Breitbart’s reckless and totally irresponsible behavior in any way possible.

He launched this effort with a charming post full of the usual moronic right wing insults: Little Green Liar Selectively Edits Breitbart.

Stranahan’s disgust for me is so overwhelming that he’s unable to type my name, and calls me “Chuckles” throughout his vitriolic post. He claims that I “selectively edited” Andrew Breitbart’s statement about the leaked photo.

My “Chuckles” alter ego apparently has some amazing powers of deception — because the post in question quoted Andrew Breitbart’s statement in full. Every word of it.

This attack fell flat almost immediately, because it was obviously, ridiculously false — even Stranahan’s own commenters could see it:

Amanda June 9, 2011 at 3:32 am

What selective editing? The whole Breitbart statement was posted at LGF, Lee. Go ahead and correct your mistake.

[…]

Guest June 9, 2011 at 3:49 am

I followed your link, and Amanda is correct. The “Little Green Footballs” site quoted Breitbart, the Republican circus clown, in full. If you want to find a “liar,” look in the mirror. So, how’s the fundraising going for your “documentary?”

Of course, Stranahan never made any mention of it, or corrected his dishonest claim. Par for the wingnut course.

But now we get to the really fragrant idiocy. Stranahan followed up with another post full of ranting insults: LGF Is Actually Hallucinating On #Weinergate. This one immediately spread throughout the right wing blogosphere.

Well, someone was definitely hallucinating — but it wasn’t me. Stranahan posted a screenshot from my post (he added a cheesy ragged border and drop shadow, I guess to show off his mad graphic skillz):

And he claimed that I mistook a menu sign for a computer. But did I?

Here’s what I wrote:

One of those people was right wing flamethrower Ann Coulter. Here’s Anthony’s photo of Coulter reacting to the picture; notice that his computer is apparently there, but Breitbart is nowhere to be seen.

Notice: at no point in my post did I identify the menu board as a computer. This is a pure assumption by Stranahan — he saw the menu board in the picture and simply leaped to the conclusion that I was referring to it, when I wrote that Coulter was reacting to the picture and that Breitbart’s computer was “apparently there.”

Breitbart’s computer was “apparently there” because Ann Coulter was reacting to the Weiner photo. Was it a cell phone, not a computer? Could be, but the distinction is ridiculously trivial — and the claim that I misidentified a menu board as a computer is simply false.

This is a perfect example of a dishonest argument: focusing on a tiny detail, claiming it’s incorrect, then doing a victory dance and pretending that the entire argument has been debunked.

And by the way, modern smartphones are computers, if we’re really going to get pedantic about it.

The important point in my post is that Breitbart was being incredibly irresponsible, showing the penis photo to anyone who asked to see it while out drinking with his buddies. But Stranahan focuses on the insignificant detail, in order to convince his wingnut readers that I was “hallucinating” — and jumps to a conclusion that is absolutely not warranted from the words I wrote.

I don’t expect him to correct this, because that’s not what right wing bloggers do. Instead, this will inevitably become an article of faith among that crowd. But the desperate attempt to deflect attention away from Andrew Breitbart’s irresponsible, sleazy behavior is transparent to anyone who isn’t drunk on wingnut Koolaid.

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1 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 12:40:05pm
Breitbart’s computer was “apparently there” because Ann Coulter was reacting to the Weiner photo. Was it a cell phone, not a computer? Could be, but the distinction is ridiculously trivial — and the claim that I misidentified a menu board as a computer is simply false.


Also that photo was taken by Anthony (from O&A) He talked for over an hour about drinking with Breitbart and Coulter on the air. As I recall that was her initial reaction followed by uncontrollable laughter. That’s Anthony’s account, he was there.

2 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 12:41:31pm

The perfect taunt for these poltroons: But Obama is still president. Even if he loses next year, it can only be to some “RINO” the media-right will hate nearly as much.

3 dragonfire1981  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 12:44:38pm

Because who gives a flying fuck about the truth anymore?

Its nothing but spin and partisan bs. As a someone with a journalism degree this makes me sick.

4 Targetpractice  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 12:44:43pm

The wingnuts need to get over themselves and understand that being right about Weiner and the pictures doesn’t suddenly grant him any level of credibility. The man’s a bullshit artist, has been for years, and letting this picture out while playing the “victim” is par for the course. Even if you believe that he didn’t manipulate O&A into releasing the photo, believing that he didn’t know what he was doing is just delusional.

5 darthstar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 12:45:39pm

This was hilarious last night…Bill Maher and Jane Lynch read the exchange between Weiner and the Black Jack dealer verbatim (some NSFW language, but it’s Saturday)

6 Randall Gross  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 12:48:52pm

It’s still funny as hell how they wrap themselves into psychic basket cases over things that in the grand scheme of things don’t matter at all.

7 wrenchwench  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 12:52:09pm

OK, forget the crabgrass. Your credibility is like a starfish.

The fishermen would think they had killed the sea stars by chopping them up and disposing of them at sea, but each fragment would regenerate into a complete adult, ultimately leading to their increased numbers until the issue was better understood
8 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 12:53:38pm

Stranahan’s already raging on Twitter. Gotta love it.

But I’m irreeeeelevant.

9 wrenchwench  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 12:56:46pm

re: #8 Charles

Stranahan’s already raging on Twitter. Gotta love it.

But I’m irreeelevant.

Rerun opportunity!

Image: dec05882-12e0-49fd-a2f3-6fcf381fd394.jpg

10 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 12:58:49pm

re: #7 wrenchwench

OK, forget the crabgrass. Your credibility is like a starfish.

Image: 545e4_ORIG-180px_Kill_it_with_fire_scorpio.gif

11 Targetpractice  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 1:01:19pm

re: #8 Charles

Stranahan’s already raging on Twitter. Gotta love it.

But I’m irreeelevant.

For somebody who’s so “irrelevant,” they certainly seem to spend a lot of time and energy “proving” it.

12 Bob Dillon  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 1:06:42pm

Looks like your bets secure Wrenchwench. He’s going to take a leave of absence … not resign. What an arrogant “very important person”.

13 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 1:07:38pm
14 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 1:14:09pm

This is quite a milestone for the wingnut-o-sphere: Their guy Breitbart finally managed to find what appears to be a deserving victim. He only shot a sitting duck, adjusting his aim several times in the process, but still, something is better than nothing.
What’s next for Breitbart and his army of snoops? Will they catch a senior Dem writing graffiti on a toilet stall wall?

Hello, real Americans, it’s Andrew Breitbart again, with a another earth-shaking example of Democrat depravity and disloyalty. With the help of loyal Christian members of Congress, we staked out the ladies’ restroom near speaker Pelosi’s office. Our female operative, disguised as an SEIU cleaning lady, entered the restroom and took high resolution video and still images, including infrared, of the stalls before Speaker’s arrival. (video) As you can see, there is no writing in any of them except a phone number allegedly belonging to someone named Rocco. (video from hallway) Pelosi then enters the target area shortly after our operative’s departure. (New video) Immediately upon Pelosi’s departure from the restroom, our operative re-entered and took more video and still images, as well as taking fingerprint and DNA samples from the walls. As you can see, the words “John Boehner is a doo-doo head” are now written in indelible ink on the inside of the door of the third stall, where there was nothing a few minutes before. Yes, fellow Americans, this shocking assault is proof positive that the Democrats are committed to instituting Marxism and Shariah law before the end of Obama’s term, not that I think he’s Kenyan impostor or anything.

15 wrenchwench  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 1:34:09pm

re: #12 Bobibutu

Looks like your bets secure Wrenchwench. He’s going to take a leave of absence … not resign. What an arrogant “very important person”.

The discussion will be on whether he counts as “in office” if he’s on leave. There’s a lot more discussion than money in these bets.

16 Ming  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 10:47:25pm

The only solution is to have a mainstream media that does more real journalism, and calls people on their inaccuracies. Instead, so often a “balanced” news show means two talking heads arguing. We need more Walter Cronkites, who are believed when they say that’s the way it is. Imagine, say, if Michelle Bachmann actually worried that she’d look bad, if she made an error about American history.

17 Mickey Blumental  Sun, Jun 12, 2011 2:24:29am

Well, that menu looks like a computer screen to me. :-/

18 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 12, 2011 9:20:04am

re: #17 Udon

Well, that menu looks like a computer screen to me. :-/

Apparently it looked like one to Stranahan too — so he jumped to that conclusion, pretended I was wrong, then did a victory dance.

19 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 13, 2011 10:34:19am
20 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 13, 2011 12:26:40pm

And once again, a dead thread hero bites the dust.


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