Oslo Terrorist Linked to EDL and European Branch of Pamela Geller’s Hate Group

Breivik was deeply involved in the ‘counter-jihad’ blogosphere and UK far right groups
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Also today, the Guardian has an article about Oslo terrorist Anders Behring Breivik’s links to the UK far right.

Breivik boasted online of his discussions with the English Defence League (the anti-Muslim group praised and supported by US bloggers Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller), and with “Stop the Islamisation of Europe” — the European branch of Pamela Geller’s “Stop the Islamization of America” (listed as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center).

Anders Behring Breivik in his Mason costumeAnders Brehing Breivik, the man accused of the murder of at least 91 Norwegians in a twin bomb and gun massacre, boasted online about his discussions with the far right English Defence League and other anti-Islamic European organizations. …

The disclosure of Breivik’s claimed links with other far right organisations came as details emerged about the rightwing Christian fundamentalist and freemason behind Norway’s worst post-war act of violence.

It was revealed that the 32-year-old former member of the country’s conservative Progress Party – who had become ever more extreme in his hatred of Muslims, left wingers and the country’s political establishment – had ordered six tonnes of fertiliser in May to be used in the bombing. While police continued to interrogate Breivik, who was charged with the mass killings, evidence of his increasingly far right world view emerged from an article he had posted on several Scandinavian websites, including Nordisk – a site frequented by neo-Nazis, far right radicals and Islamophobes since 2009.

The Norwegian daily VG quoted one of Breivik’s friends saying that he had become a rightwing extremist in his late 20s and was now a strong opponent of multi-culturalism, expressing strong nationalistic views in online debates.

Breivik had talked admiringly about conversations he had had with unnamed English Defence League members and the organisation Stop the Islamification of Europe over the success of provocative street actions leading to violence.

“I have on some occasions had discussions with SIOE and EDL and recommended them to use certain strategies,” he wrote two years ago.

“The tactics of the EDL are now to ‘lure’ an overreaction from the Jihad Youth/Extreme-Marxists, something they have succeeded in doing several times already.” Contacted about the allegation by email by last night the EDL had not answered.

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1 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:29:28pm
"“The tactics of the EDL are now to ‘lure’ an overreaction from the Jihad Youth/Extreme-Marxists, something they have succeeded in doing several times already.” Contacted about the allegation by email by last night the EDL had not answered."

Of course, trying to countermand the "lure" of socialist public schools and athiests.

/gah

2 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:29:28pm

Drip, drip, drip...

3 Political Atheist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:30:11pm

Busted.

4 William of Orange  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:34:40pm

Not related in any way but I think you will be amazed by this enormous spending blunder by the US Navy initiated during the Reagan presidential years.

WASHINGTON, DC (WUSA) --- The government is saying goodbye to two large oil tankers that it ordered during the Reagan administration, spent more than $300 million to build, and never finished or put in service.

The ships, the Benjamin Isherwood and the Henry Eckford, are being destroyed this month after having spent the last several years as part of the so-called ghost fleet of rotting and antiquated naval and merchant ships moored in the James River in Newport News.

"Well, now we know why they're called ghost fleets. They haunt taxpayers with costs for decades and, once we see the cost for getting rid of them, we all want to drop dead," said Pete Sepp of the National Taxpayers Union.

More here.

5 allegro  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:37:55pm

I never knew the Masons had such ghastly taste.

6 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:40:28pm

A commenter from Spencer's site thinks the Norwegians got what they deserved....

What goes around comes around. Whatever the case, the Norwegians have now began ripping what they had sown, demonizing Israel for decades, and eagerly justifying the mass murders of Israeli men, women, children, babies by the "Palestinian" Islamic Jihadis, saying that the "Palestinians" acted out of "hopelessness", "pain", "desperation", "anger" over the "occupation".
Now, the shue is on the other foot.
7 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:40:43pm

It's sad that so many seem to have such a world view.

8 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:41:56pm

re: #6 Killgore Trout

A commenter from Spencer's site thinks the Norwegians got what they deserved...

Saw that coming. I'll say it again. A lot of these lunatics are going to see Breivik as a hero. Either in public or in private. That's a given.

9 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:43:43pm

re: #8 Gus 802

Saw that coming. I'll say it again. A lot of these lunatics are going to see Breivik as a hero. Either in public or in private. That's a given.

He took actions on his beliefs, did not run or commit suicide --a true hero.

////spit*

10 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:44:03pm

Right about now Pamela is wearing a Camelbak filled with Bombay Saphire.

11 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:44:07pm

re: #8 Gus 802

Saw that coming. I'll say it again. A lot of these lunatics are going to see Breivik as a hero. Either in public or in private. That's a given.

The most disgusting defense of him I'm seeing-- and there's a lot of it-- is that he was driven to this by the sickness of the overly-liberal society, that this is the natural reaction of a conservative nationalist to living under a liberal government with immigration.

Not only is that a pathetic excuse, it basically says we should expect a lot more attacks like this. It's literally doing the work of the terrorist.

12 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:44:14pm

Remember when everyone was jumping on Charles because he was purging this site of these ass-clowns?

You were damn prescient then, Charles, and have proved to be the wisest Lizard in the room.

Well done, sir.

13 jaunte  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:44:40pm

re: #6 Killgore Trout

Wow, that comment thread is a real paranoids' freakout.

14 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:44:56pm

going to take my nap

try not to have nightmares . . .

15 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:45:48pm

re: #11 Obdicut

The most disgusting defense of him I'm seeing-- and there's a lot of it-- is that he was driven to this by the sickness of the overly-liberal society, that this is the natural reaction of a conservative nationalist to living under a liberal government with immigration.

Not only is that a pathetic excuse, it basically says we should expect a lot more attacks like this. It's literally doing the work of the terrorist.

Blame the internet, society but never, never the individual . . . .

/*spit*

16 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:47:34pm

re: #11 Obdicut

The most disgusting defense of him I'm seeing-- and there's a lot of it-- is that he was driven to this by the sickness of the overly-liberal society, that this is the natural reaction of a conservative nationalist to living under a liberal government with immigration.

Not only is that a pathetic excuse, it basically says we should expect a lot more attacks like this. It's literally doing the work of the terrorist.

That was my main concern when I learned of the nature of the "suspect". Do we have now a new type of terrorist? Will he inspire others like him? And as in criminal acts will there be copy-cats? Clearly of course this was a politically motivated act. He might not have a manifesto. However, his manifesto is in the subtext of what he's said on the internet up until this violent act.

17 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:48:28pm

The eternally douchey Michael Savage sez that something smells funny about this.

The right-wing now cannot deal with anything without invoking a conspiracy.

18 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:49:41pm

re: #17 Obdicut

The eternally douchey Michael Savage sez that something smells funny about this.

The right-wing now cannot deal with anything without invoking a conspiracy.

Beck prophesied about possible setups many months ago. Won't be in the least surprised if that's how he spins it.

19 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:49:57pm

Even if this guy were found to have the image of Pam Geller's mouth tatooed on the palms of his hands she would deny that there was any connection between her writings and his actions.

20 avanti  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:52:42pm

re: #12 austin_blue

Remember when everyone was jumping on Charles because he was purging this site of these ass-clowns?

You were damn prescient then, Charles, and have proved to be the wisest Lizard in the room.

Well done, sir.

Pam just put up a post linking the shooter to LGF.

21 Turkey Jihad  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:53:43pm

In response to the freak-out over at Hot Air:

Curmudgeon on July 23, 2011 at 11:56 AM

Although this has been one of the uglier comment threads I recall here, I can’t let this pass: do most Christians commenting here believe, as the above poster stated, that Matthew wrote a contemporaneous account about Jesus Christ and that account is one of the four Gospels?

You do realize those Gospels weren’t written in real time, yes, that none of them were written by the men whose names they bear, yes? That all of them are historical documents relying on the oral tradition, yes? This isn’t wicked atheist speculation, this is, um, accepted historical record.

I do not believe for a second that Christianity poses a threat to civilization, and I do believe Islam does. However, the ignorance about Christianity on display by professed Christians on this board is astonishing. Any Christian who dares declare what is in the heart of another professed Christian is a fool. Judge them by their works? He who has no sin – throw your pious stones, hypocrites.

A Christian couldn’t do this? Peter denied Christ three times, and he was one of his closets friends – you think Christians today are incapable of letting Christ down, of doing things decidedly not Christ-like?

I don’t know if the man was a Christian or not – frankly, I don’t think it matters and it’s a gruesome testament to how defensive believers have become that the *idea* that someone who commits an atrocity could possibly have similar beliefs has steered this train so far off the tracks.

As strange as it may sound to so many of the more hostile believers in this comment thread, many atheists – myself among them – came to our conclusions about the world after years of devout, trenchant Christian education. Saying you’ve read the Bible or the Koran doesn’t prove squat – from what I can tell from the more adamant in this thread, everything you know about Christianity you learned in Vacation Bible School.

Your true-blue belief that the monster who committed this crime wasn’t a Christian does not absolve you of your profound ignorance about your faith, its roots, its texts, its teachings and its ethics. ‘Judge them by their works’ – yes, get busy doing that you morally repugnant buffoons.

Beyond-despicable this thread. You’re doing about as much for Christianity as Judas did for Christ.

elcapt on July 23, 2011 at 2:43 PM

22 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:54:03pm

Pam retorts....
Norway Shooter a Charles Johnson Fan

The shooter once posted ONE link to Atlas. ONE link. And the little green shew posts that he was my fan and made that the center of the story -- not what the rest of the world did, mourning dead children.

SIOA and SIOE declare our sympathy for the victims and relatives of the victims of the heinous mass murders in Norway. We denounce the attacker and reiterate our dedication to the defense of free societies and human rights for all people, and our opposition to all vigilantism and violence.

23 Tigger2005  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:54:50pm

That's really weird...most right-wing Christian fundamentalists hate the Freemasons because they are religiously tolerant. And Freemasonry certainly has no history of extremism like this, unless you take the view that the Founding Fathers, many of whom were Freemasons (including Washington) were "extremists in defense of (real) liberty".

At the risk of using the "no true Scotsman" fallacy, I'm not sure if this guy's Masonic ties had much to do with his beliefs and actions. If they did, then Freemasonry at least in Europe has taken a bad turn.

24 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:54:57pm

re: #20 avanti

Um, Pam. He linked to LGF (once), but he explicitly admired you, GoV and Fjordman. Good luck getting out of the mess.

25 Turkey Jihad  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:55:07pm

re: #20 avanti

Pam just put up a post linking the shooter to LGF.

Good grief, Drunken Pam, really??!!

26 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:56:08pm

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

Right about now Pamela is wearing a Camelbak filled with Bombay Saphire.

re: #20 avanti

Pam just put up a post linking the shooter to LGF.

It's kicking in ...

27 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:56:11pm

re: #22 Killgore Trout

Pam retorts...
Norway Shooter a Charles Johnson Fan

She either lies about one link (ignoring explicit words of AB), or she is in for a nasty surprise.

28 Turkey Jihad  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:56:21pm

Atlas Shrieks:

In CJ's world, this makes him culpable, does it not? Over ninety people are dead in this horror and many wounded, and this psychopath is using this to incite hatred against me and those of us who are fighting for freedom and Western values. Shame on him for using these deaths to carry out his selfish personal vendetta.

No one is explaining what his anti-Muslim views (if he really had them) have to do with his attacks. Maybe the shooter was like Johnson and turned.

29 General Nimrod Bodfish  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:56:28pm

re: #25 Kid A

Good grief, Drunken Pam, really??!!

She must have a gin IV hooked up to her 24/7/365 for her to be this deranged. It's not good for her health.

30 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:56:35pm

re: #17 Obdicut

The eternally douchey Michael Savage sez that something smells funny about this.

The right-wing now cannot deal with anything without invoking a conspiracy.

IOW...

"7/22 was an inside job!"

There's another given then. 7/22 Truthers.

31 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:57:20pm

re: #30 Gus 802

IOW...

"7/22 was an inside job!"

There's another given then. 7/22 Truthers.

Are they suggesting that the Norwegian left would kill their own children?

That's beyond nuts.

32 Henchman 25  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:58:42pm

re: #31 EmmmieG

If it demonizes "the enemy", they'll believe it.

33 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:59:08pm

Here's Charles' reaction upon learning about that single link to LGF:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

On that page you linked, he posted one link to LGF; along with articles to other news sites, Wikipedia, etc. I can promise you that nobody in that "counter-jihad" crowd will ever link to my site with approval again, because I've made it extremely clear that I want nothing to do with their hate speech and bigotry.

Compare to Pam and the rest.

34 Winny Spencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:59:18pm

re: #17 Obdicut

The eternally douchey Michael Savage sez that something smells funny about this.

The right-wing now cannot deal with anything without invoking a conspiracy.

I know this might not come as a huge surprise to some but I used to be a religious listener to his show. What can I say, misery loves company.

35 Turkey Jihad  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 12:59:19pm

More shriek:

But this is war. And the left is vicious, amoral and depraved. They mean to win, and that is the only way they know how.

As for the Johnson, he is a very sick man. Let's hope he doesn't hurt himself.

UPDATE: Maybe the shooter turned and snapped like Johnson.

This post alone had to have been influenced by a fifth of Grey Goose.

36 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:00:00pm

re: #22 Killgore Trout

Pam retorts...
Norway Shooter a Charles Johnson Fan

"Little green shew?"

37 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:00:27pm

re: #34 Winny Spencer

He's one of the cruelest, most unhappy, and most unethical people I've ever heard. At least Limbaugh seems in on the joke. Savage just seems like a hatemonger.

38 allegro  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:00:38pm

re: #36 Charles

"Little green shew?"

LOL I was wondering about that too. Did you have a fling with Ed Sullivan?

39 jaunte  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:00:42pm

re: #36 Charles

Ed Sullivan spelling?

40 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:00:47pm

re: #36 Charles

"Little green shew?"

Ed Sullivan fan, maybe.

41 Tigger2005  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:01:04pm

re: #36 Charles

"Little green shew?"

The Taming of the Shew
The Turn of the Scew

42 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:01:07pm

re: #35 Kid A

More shriek:

This post alone had to have been influenced by a fifth of Grey Goose.

Are they that stupid? Is she that stupid. It's not only Charles who is bringing up these connections. Can't they read? The idiot needs to look around and see that people are picking up on these connections all over the internet.

43 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:01:25pm

re: #38 allegro

re: #39 jaunte

re: #40 reine.de.tout

heh.
Well, I guess we're "shewing" our age!

44 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:02:04pm

re: #41 Tigger2005

The Taming of the Shew
The Turn of the Scew

Don't try to shew me over, play.

He's got his head shewed on straight.

Give me the corkshew so I can open this bottle of win.

45 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:02:09pm

re: #37 Obdicut

Lots of items suggest Savage is absolutely in on the joke, including his donations to a Democrat, his old letters to Allen Ginsberg and the like.

46 Turkey Jihad  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:02:28pm

re: #42 Gus 802

Are they that stupid? Is she that stupid. It's not only Charles who is bringing up these connections. Can't they read? The idiot needs to look around and see that people are picking up on these connections all over the internet.

The idiot is strong with this one.

Image: darthVader.jpg

47 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:02:36pm

re: #42 Gus 802

This time it won't work.

48 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:02:47pm

re: #45 Sergey Romanov

I thought he just used to be a liberal and then went nuts.

49 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:03:53pm

There was an old lady
Who lived in a shew
She had so many unwanted links
She didn't know what to do...

50 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:04:12pm

re: #48 Obdicut

I thought he just used to be a liberal and then went nuts.

Victim of a liberal society and a coddling eurocialist, state-dominated upbringing. Any healthy white european male would react in the same way.

51 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:05:11pm

How, exactly, do you get from football to shew?

And what is a shew? I thought it was an obscure past tense of show.

52 Winny Spencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:05:46pm

re: #48 Obdicut

I thought he just used to be a liberal and then went nuts.

My interpratation as well. There is likely a great deal of self-loathing involved too.

53 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:06:03pm

re: #48 Obdicut

[Link: dir.salon.com...]

The success of "The Savage Nation" and its spinoffs is the culmination of a lifelong quest for attention, fame and money. And that raises the question of whether Michael Savage is just a persona created to milk conservatives and taunt liberals. Robert Cathcart thinks his old friend intentionally exaggerates his politics and personality to get a rise out of his audience. "It's showmanship," he says. "He makes enemies of everybody. He doesn't believe half the stuff he says. On air, he's the ultimate type-A personality, but he quiets down at home." Former "Savage Nation" producer James Hilliard concurs. "I think Michael does have an excellent sense of putting on a show," he says. "I think he learned or was told at an early point that this is an entertainment medium, and he thought of himself as an entertainer."

54 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:06:14pm

re: #36 Charles

I say she has committed libel.

Sue her and her gin-soaked delusions.

55 jaunte  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:06:17pm

re: #51 EmmmieG

How, exactly, do you get from football to shew?


Three shewdrivers.

56 Nisse  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:06:21pm

Don't know if you guys have found this, but here is on Youtube a clip where Anders Behring Breivik promotes the book he's written as a manifest to warn people about islamization and cultural marxism - 2083 – A European Declaration of Independence.

The book itself can be downloaded here.

The clip was uploaded yesterday July 22 on Anders Behring Breivik's Youtube channel, where he uses his English pseudonym Andrew Berwick. So he uploaded it just hours before he went on his killing spree.
He obviously compares himself to the knight templars of the crusades. Might explain somewhat why he did it.

57 Tigger2005  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:06:36pm

The Freemasonry thing really bothers me. I pretty much dropped out of Freemasonry because I disliked the fact that it was a very "white" organization and showed no signs of integrating any time soon (maybe that's changed by now). But other than that it's a very positive and constructive organization, and of course we know that our first President, many of the Founding Fathers, and many other American greats, like Harry Truman, have been Freemasons. Freemasonry has traditionally been religiously tolerant asking only that members profess a belief in God and referring to God in universal terms, and this has earned them enmity from many right-wing Christians.

I'm looking for a strong repudiation of this guy from European Freemasons soon.

58 avanti  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:06:55pm

re: #31 EmmmieG

Are they suggesting that the Norwegian left would kill their own children?

That's beyond nuts.

I saw a post on Pam's site suggesting that the Oklahoma city bombing was planed by Muslims and that was new to me too./

59 Turkey Jihad  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:07:19pm

re: #51 EmmmieG

How, exactly, do you get from football to shew?

And what is a shew? I thought it was an obscure past tense of show.

Definition of SHEW

British variant of show

60 Tigger2005  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:07:32pm

re: #51 EmmmieG

How, exactly, do you get from football to shew?

And what is a shew? I thought it was an obscure past tense of show.

She meant to say shrew I'm sure.

61 Turkey Jihad  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:08:30pm

re: #60 Tigger2005

She meant to say shrew I'm sure.

Hard to when you're seeing double after a bottle of Bombay Sapphire.

62 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:08:41pm

Meanwhile, on the other side of Crazytown, a friend of mine has started to find tweets suggesting Israeli involvement, and pointing to the perp's 'pro-Israel' stance.

63 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:09:27pm

re: #36 Charles

"Little green shew?"

Welcome to the little green shew.

64 General Nimrod Bodfish  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:09:33pm

re: #36 Charles

"Little green shew?"

I didn't think it was possible to slur your speech through a keyboard, but Pam did.

65 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:10:09pm

re: #62 SanFranciscoZionist

Meanwhile, on the other side of Crazytown, a friend of mine has started to find tweets suggesting Israeli involvement, and pointing to the perp's 'pro-Israel' stance.

I have a strong feeling this was a conspiracy of one. Unless you count his imaginary friends.

66 Turkey Jihad  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:10:22pm

re: #63 SanFranciscoZionist

Welcome to the little green shew.

Little Green Shewballs

67 Winny Spencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:10:47pm

re: #56 Nisse

"The European tree of liberty will be refreshed by the blood of our patriots and of the Marxist tyrants. This civil war will last several decades but we will succeed."

68 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:11:24pm

re: #60 Tigger2005

She meant to say shrew I'm sure.

Pretty sure that shrew is no closer to football than shew is.

69 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:12:05pm

re: #62 SanFranciscoZionist

Meanwhile, on the other side of Crazytown, a friend of mine has started to find tweets suggesting Israeli involvement, and pointing to the perp's 'pro-Israel' stance.

Oh, groan. Please save me from Teh Crazy out there.

70 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:12:27pm

re: #48 Obdicut

And this:

[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

Strange bedfellows: It turns out that ultra-hot conservative talk show host Michael Savage is backing Oakland Mayor Jerry Brown for state attorney general.

"What can I say? I think he'd make a great attorney general compared to the other guy. By the way, who is the other guy?'' Savage said, when asked why he chose Democrat Brown over conservative Republican Chuck Poochigian.

Savage, whose rants can be heard locally on KNEW-AM, is backing up his hot talk with some hot money as well. Savage Productions, which lists Savage as president and his wife, Janet Weiner, as director, has donated $5,600 to Brown's campaign.

"You have to make choices in an imperfect world,'' Savage said. "And this, this Machugian guy. (Like we said, it's Poochigian.) I never heard of him. I don't even know who he is."

Poochigian has spent the past 12 years in Sacramento, first in the Assembly and now in the Senate. Doesn't impress the president of the Savage Nation.

"Why bet on a horse that isn't going to win? Why throw your money into the garbage?''

So how did the best-selling author of "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder'' wind up backing a liberal once nicknamed "Governor Moonbeam"?

"People change. He changed. He has experience,'' Savage said of Brown. "He started the Oakland military academy -- that was a good thing."

And Brown's politics?

"He's moved to the center, which is what this socialist state needs," Savage said.

"So that's about it. I'm sure you will spin this and make something out of it."

Brown campaign manager Ace Smith would say only, "Michael Savage is one of 5,000 contributors to the campaign."

As for the Poochigian campaign, chief adviser Ken Khachigian told us, "We have Bo Derek, they have Michael Savage -- so between us, we've got the Good, the Bad and the Ugly.''

Who needs to spin after that?

71 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:12:41pm

re: #56 Nisse

Thank you very much.

72 avanti  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:12:47pm

I find this quote from Pam laughable:

"SIOA and SIOE declare our sympathy for the victims and relatives of the victims of the heinous mass murders in Norway. We denounce the attacker and reiterate our dedication to the defense of free societies and human rights for all people and our opposition to all vigilantism and violence."
(bold text by me)

73 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:13:11pm

re: #69 austin_blue

Oh, groan. Please save me from Teh Crazy out there.

I wish I could, dude, I wish I could.

74 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:14:04pm

re: #62 SanFranciscoZionist

Fuckemall.

75 Turkey Jihad  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:14:08pm

re: #72 avanti

I find this quote from Pam laughable:

"SIOA and SIOE declare our sympathy for the victims and relatives of the victims of the heinous mass murders in Norway. We denounce the attacker and reiterate our dedication to the defense of free societies and human rights for all people and our opposition to all vigilantism and violence."
(bold text by me)

LOL

76 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:15:29pm

re: #56 Nisse

Don't know if you guys have found this, but here is on Youtube a clip where Anders Behring Breivik promotes the book he's written as a manifest to warn people about islamization and cultural marxism - 2083 – A European Declaration of Independence.

The book itself can be downloaded here.

The clip was uploaded yesterday July 22 on Anders Behring Breivik's Youtube channel, where he uses his English pseudonym Andrew Berwick. So he uploaded it just hours before he went on his killing spree.
He obviously compares himself to the knight templars of the crusades. Might explain somewhat why he did it.

Aha! So he does have a manifesto.

77 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:15:51pm

re: #56 Nisse

Don't know if you guys have found this, but here is on Youtube a clip where Anders Behring Breivik promotes the book he's written as a manifest to warn people about islamization and cultural marxism - 2083 – A European Declaration of Independence.

The book itself can be downloaded here.

The clip was uploaded yesterday July 22 on Anders Behring Breivik's Youtube channel, where he uses his English pseudonym Andrew Berwick. So he uploaded it just hours before he went on his killing spree.
He obviously compares himself to the knight templars of the crusades. Might explain somewhat why he did it.

Thanks for posting that. The guy was clearly not insane or having psychotic episodes. He seems quite aware and probably rather intelligent.

78 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:16:09pm

re: #56 Nisse

@#$@#$@#

1500 pages

He didn't lie.

And there are new photos at the end of the file.

79 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:16:34pm

re: #75 Kid A

Except for Muslims and Liberals.

Because we all know they think it. The fact they are trying to spin this, or are saying Norway deserved what happened says volumes.

80 Turkey Jihad  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:16:47pm
Kufar Dawg said...
Maybe Chuckie chose green footballs in honor of the fact that green is the holy color of Pisslam.

Go pound sand Chuckles!~

Charles, I think it's time to bring the Shrieking Harpy button back to the front page.

81 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:17:34pm

re: #61 Kid A

Hard to when you're seeing double after a bottle of Bombay Sapphire.

Think of the endorsements

Pamela Geller's Breakfast Gin! It'll bring the cougar out in you!

82 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:17:38pm

re: #77 Killgore Trout

I wonder if that was his way of drawing attention to the book.

83 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:17:58pm

Charles! Check out #56.

84 Nisse  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:19:12pm

re: #78 Sergey Romanov

@#$@#$@#

1500 pages

He didn't lie.

And there are new photos at the end of the file.

Just watched the news here in Sweden and they didn't show those images when they said he had an interest in weapons, so this material isn't out yet even here. Will show up in the Scandinavian media in a few hours though. :)

85 Turkey Jihad  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:19:29pm

re: #81 WindUpBird

Think of the endorsements

Pamela Geller's Breakfast Gin! It'll bring the cougar out in you!

Meow.

86 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:20:06pm

re: #85 Kid A

Meow.

we need to invent a pamela geller cocktail

87 Turkey Jihad  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:20:08pm

re: #83 Gus 802

Charles! Check out #56.

Holy. Fucking. Shit.

88 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:20:28pm

re: #86 WindUpBird

we need to invent a pamela geller cocktail

What sane human being would drink it?

89 allegro  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:20:29pm

re: #56 Nisse

I stopped watching after about 30 seconds but kept it on for the music. Quite enjoying it.

90 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:20:58pm

Fuck. Sorry. But he has a diary of preparations at the end of his book. Very detailed.

Logistical plans ahead (as of March 1st)

I will shortly convert the public listing/definition of my company from regular to agricultural. This will allow me to acquire (rent) and register a farm with accompanying fields. The fields, registered through my company, will give me a specific “farming ID number” which is a requirement for ordering large amounts of fertilizer from the national supplier.

The cover I am using is; test production of sugar beet. I have created a 10 page “business plan” for this purpose, and have familiarized myself with the related terminology. As such, I am soon ready to place “rent adds” in agricultural newspapers, with intent to rent the farm/fields.

As soon as I rent the farm; I plan to move all my equipment to the farm house and initiate the “explosive manufacturing phase”. The operation will be executed shortly after the manufacturing phase is completed. Will attempt to initiate contact with cell 8b and 8c in late March.

91 Øyvind Strømmen  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:22:03pm

re: #56 Nisse

The book itself can be downloaded here.

Don't know what to make of this yet. But the year 2083 is also mentioned by himself on document.no

92 Turkey Jihad  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:22:07pm

re: #83 Gus 802

Charles! Check out #56.

Choice comment:

This deserves 1,000,000 thumbs ups. The cultural relativists declared war on ethnic Europeans three decades ago. Looking at how bloody Europe's history is, did they actually think there would be no push back.

ItsMeGandhi 1 minute ago

93 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:22:48pm

re: #88 EmmmieG

What sane human being would drink it?

People drink jager, there's no accounting for taste

94 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:22:50pm
This is going to be an all-or-nothing scenario. If I fail to generate acceptable precious metals yields, in combination with swift initiation of the capitalization for securing the areas I will be heavily indebted. I must complete capitalization of the mineral extraction project within August at latest! When I have the required seed capital I will have enough funds to employ the services of professional blasting engineers.

If all fails, I will initiate my career with a private security firm in conflict zones to acquire maximum funds in the shortest period of time to repay the debts.

First coming costume party this autumn, dress up as a police officer. Arrive with insignias:-) Will be awesome as people will be very astonished:-)

Side note; imagine if law enforcement would visit me the next days. They would probably get the wrong idea and think I was a terrorist, lol :o)

Optimal time budget, one person - ANFO: 3 x 600kg, PA: 3 x 0,5kg, DDNP: 3 x 10g

If I had known then, what I know today, by following this guide, I would have managed to complete the operation within 30 days instead of using almost 80 days. By following my guide, anyone can create the foundation for a spectacular operation with only 1 person in less than a month even if adding 2 "resting" days!:-)

Day 1: Moving and getting your equipment and gear into place.
Day 2: Installing all equipment - fume hood, fan etc.
Day 3: Finishing the metal skeletons/cylinders for the blast devices and completing other practical issues relating to gear and equipment.
Day 4: Creating an evacuation/emergency strategy, packing an evacuation kit (survival gear etc.)
Day 5: Grinding 2,5kg of aspirin: 30 minutes with blender, manufacture of acetylsalicylic acid from aspirin (4 hours) + drying in oven (4 hours per batch x 3)
Day 6: Manufacture of acetylsalicylic acid from aspirin (4 hours) + drying in oven (4 hours per batch x 3)
Day 7: Boiling sulfuric acid using 4 cooking plates outside, from 23.00-07.00, 15-18L->5L of 90%+
Day 8: Boiling sulfuric acid using 4 cooking plates outside, from 23.00-07.00, 15-18L->5L of 90%+
Day 9: Creating Picric Acid (6 out of 12 batches using 3 x hot plate stirrers)
Day 10: Creating Picric Acid (12 out of 12 batches using 3 x hot plate stirrers). Completed
Day 11: Purification of Picric Acid
Day 12: Purification of Picric Acid
Day 13: Purification of Picric Acid. Completed
Day 14: Creating DDNP
Day 15: Creating DDNP. Completed
Day 16: Relocation of 27-0-0 fertilizer. Break down a 600kg bag into 13-14 x 50kg bags, load in the truck, drive to location where you are going to crush them if needed.

95 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:23:25pm
Day 17: Relocation of fertilizer. Break down another 600kg bag into 13-14 x 50kg bags.
Day 18: Relocation of fertilizer. Break down the last 600kg bag into 13-14 x 50kg bags.
Day 19: Initiate fertilizer grinding phase using 4 stationary blenders simultaneously. It will take aprox. 30-40 minutes to complete a full 50kg bag of ANFO, including the addition of the diesel and sealing the inner and outer bag with pieces of duct tape. It should be done nighttime between 23.00-07.00 as its quite noisy. The task also includes filling 20L plastic containers with diesel, and then breaking each 20L container down to 4L containers (empty distilled water containers) Complete 9 x 50kg bags of ANFO.
Day 20: Complete 9 x 50kg bags of ANFO.
Day 21: Complete 9 x 50kg bags of ANFO.
Day 22: Complete 9 x 50kg bags of ANFO. Completed.
Day 23: Mix in 2,5% (by weight) micro balloons and 10-15% (by weight) aluminium powder into the now hardened ANFO.
Day 24: Mix in 2,5% micro balloons and 10-15% aluminium powder into the now hardened ANFO.
Day 25: Mix in 2,5% micro balloons and 10-15% aluminium powder into the now hardened ANFO.
Day 26: Prepare trucks for transportation.
Day 27: Prepare trucks for transportation.
Day 28: Prepare trucks for transportation.
Day 29: Completed

The following chart illustrates labour required vs. risk of apprehension for individuals who are NOT already on any watch list.


Risk vs. Labour Time required to complete Risk of apprehension

1 person
30 days
30%
2 people 20 days 60%
3 people 16 days 85%
4 people 13 days 90%
5 people 12 days 90-95%


The old saying; "if you want something done, then do it yourself" is as relevant now as it was then. More than one "chef" does not mean that you will do tasks twice as fast. In many cases; you could do it all yourself, it will just take a little more time. AND, without taking unacceptable risks. The conclusion is undeniable.


I believe this will be my last entry. It is now Fri July 22nd, 12.51.

Sincere regards,

Andrew Berwick
Justiciar Knight Commander
Knights Templar Europe
Knights Templar Norway

96 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:23:50pm

re: #91 oslogin

Don't know what to make of this yet. But the year 2083 is also mentioned by himself on document.no

Yeah. Have to look at that with a raised eyebrow. Being that this is the intertoobs and all.

97 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:24:19pm

re: #95 Sergey Romanov

Is the 'Knights Templar' bit something the Masons use, or is it his own delusional addition?

98 Turkey Jihad  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:24:36pm

re: #95 Sergey Romanov

Good god...

99 McSpiff  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:27:23pm

re: #97 SanFranciscoZionist

Is the 'Knights Templar' bit something the Masons use, or is it his own delusional addition?

I believe certain rites do use templar references.

100 McSpiff  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:28:13pm

re: #90 Sergey Romanov

This is total insanity. Cell 8b and 8c? is he working with others?

101 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:30:54pm

re: #86 WindUpBird

we need to invent a pamela geller cocktail

1.) One bottle of gin

That's it.

102 Øyvind Strømmen  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:33:54pm

That PDF file contains loads of works by Fjordman, by the way. And the title is borrowed from Fjordman.

103 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:34:41pm

re: #102 oslogin

That PDF file contains loads of works by Fjordman, by the way. And the title is borrowed from Fjordman.

Hmmm...

104 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:36:06pm

re: #100 McSpiff

What!?!?

I hope that is just a delusion, otherwise, Norway is still in Danger.

105 McSpiff  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:39:28pm

re: #104 ProLifeLiberal

What!?!?

I hope that is just a delusion, otherwise, Norway is still in Danger.

He hasn't struck me as delusional yet... haven't read much of his writing yet.

106 bratwurst  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:42:51pm

re: #67 Winny Spencer

Anything you'd care to say about the assessment of this event you gave yesterday?

107 McSpiff  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:44:22pm

Freepers are firmly in denial...

To: Steve Van Doorn
The narrative on this Breivik guy just isn’t adding up.

In fact, there is so much about this guy that makes no earthly sense, that it’s almost certain that something truly heinous is afoot with this incident.

That said, the operators have truly bungled the central foundations of their caper, because they’ve failed to provide any sort of credible linkage to this man’s purported character, and such a violent act as this.

At the moment, I’m trying to figure out who benefits from this? Anti-gunners? The hard left? The muslim invasion of Scandinavia? Who?

Someone who knows this guy is going to have to come forward and corroborate or deny what we’re being told about him. Until we know who (and what) he really is, we can’t make heads or tails of why he did this, and what possible objective he could have had.


13 posted on Sat Jul 23 2011 17:38:09 GMT-0300 (ADT) by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)

108 Øyvind Strømmen  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:45:23pm

It's being confirmed in Norwegian media, now. It is his manifesto.

109 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:45:52pm

re: #106 bratwurst

Anything you'd care to say about the assessment of this event you gave yesterday?

He (she? still don't know) has already apologized.

110 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:49:41pm

re: #108 oslogin

It's being confirmed in Norwegian media, now. It is his manifesto.

The stuff in the youtube link is being confirmed as the manifesto?

111 zora  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:57:15pm

re: #107 McSpiff

because that's what makes them freepers.


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