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1 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 3:58:59pm

The sound seems to have vanished from the live video. Hope they get it back.

2 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:00:04pm

sounds fine...thanks for the link

3 recusancy  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:00:19pm

re: #1 Charles

The sound seems to have vanished from the live video. Hope they get it back.

Click the volume... it kicked in after I moved the levels

4 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:01:46pm

Well, they're all very nice to each other.

5 celticdragon  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:02:36pm

I propose two shots of whatever poison you are drinking tonight for any teabagger who interrupts the speech. I will be doing a nice single malt Highland Scotch.

6 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:03:22pm

A carnival of douchebags, both right and left. Thank god I woke from my slumber six years ago and saw these fools for what they are.

7 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:04:12pm

re: #6 Kid A

A carnival of douchebags, both right and left. Thank god I woke from my slumber six years ago and saw these fools for what they are.

wha?....you don't love your feds?
wtf is wrong with you?

8 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:04:24pm

re: #5 celticdragon

I propose two shots of whatever poison you are drinking tonight for any teabagger who interrupts the speech. I will be doing a nice single malt Highland Scotch.

I thought none of them were even bothering to show up, or was that the Tea Bag non-response after the speech?

9 recusancy  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:04:59pm

Sheiffer says he read the speech and it's "pugnacious". Good.

10 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:05:13pm

re: #7 albusteve

wha?...you don't love your feds?
wtf is wrong with you?

Who ya like tonight, Steve? Pack or Saints? I'm leaning Pack by seven.

11 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:05:18pm

Did the sounds just die out?

12 celticdragon  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:05:40pm

re: #8 Kid A

I thought none of them were even bothering to show up, or was that the Tea Bag non-response after the speech?

Yelling insults at the Kenyan usurper is fund raising gold for the wingnuts.

13 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:05:53pm

Argh!

Just as I said that after turning the volume right up ...

DONK DONK DONK

The President of the United States!

14 Alexzander  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:06:25pm

Here we go!

15 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:06:27pm

re: #12 celticdragon

Yelling insults at the Kenyan usurper is fund raising gold for the wingnuts.

I thought he was born in Indonesia. Or Kansas. Or...
///

16 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:06:46pm

re: #10 Kid A

Who ya like tonight, Steve? Pack or Saints? I'm leaning Pack by seven.

can't go against the Pack at home...not this season....
at least seven

17 Alexzander  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:06:52pm

re: #11 HAL2010

Did the sounds just die out?

I think someone is intentially cutting the volume during clapping etc. At least I hope so.

18 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:07:03pm

One of the many drinking games tonight has the phrase ' Invest in the future'
Hope I make it to the football game..

19 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:07:40pm

link went dead....fuckski

20 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:07:59pm

Be right back, I'm gonna get me some hot chocolate.

Aw yeah.

21 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:08:20pm

re: #16 albusteve

can't go against the Pack at home...not this season...
at least seven

Sporting News have the pack going 15-1 this year. That's just a bit of a stretch. 11-5, 12-4 is definitely much more realistic. I think the Steelers may have the best record this year. Look at their schedule, it's cake.

22 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:08:53pm

Good thing he's not under any pressure.

23 Alexzander  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:08:54pm

I wonder if Obama is still using the "Now Let Me Be Clear" phrase.

24 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:09:01pm

go get em tiger....
get some

25 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:09:08pm

re: #18 HoosierHoops

One of the many drinking games tonight has the phrase ' Invest in the future'
Hope I make it to the football game..

"Infrastructure." Before kickoff I'll be wasted, lol.

26 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:09:17pm

Beohner's looking a little less orange than usual.

27 Alexzander  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:09:27pm

re: #22 Charles

Good thing he's not under any pressure.

Yeah he can just phone this one in.

28 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:09:51pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

Beohner's looking a little less orange than usual.

He ran out of Tan in a Can on the way over.

29 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:10:09pm

Fancy graphics on the white house feed.

30 jaunte  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:10:17pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

Beohner's looking a little less orange than usual.

Maybe one of his staffers watches Jon Stewart.

31 celticdragon  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:10:26pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

Beohner's looking a little less orange than usual.

Sir John of Orange is changing his heraldic livery.

32 Alexzander  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:10:32pm

What are the best twitter tags to follow this on?

33 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:10:54pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

Beohner's looking a little less orange than usual.

Mary Kay

34 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:11:26pm

Heh, the graphs are pretty funny.

35 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:11:33pm

re: #21 Kid A

Nah, Aaron's gonna make them cry in Miami when he runs the table.

36 recusancy  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:11:49pm

re: #32 Alexzander

What are the best twitter tags to follow this on?

#tcot

37 celticdragon  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:12:16pm

I'm surprised the opposition clapped for that line. They were implicated by it.

38 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:12:44pm

Has Boehner cried yet?

39 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:12:46pm

Fat chance.

40 celticdragon  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:13:03pm

American Jobs Act. Good. Keep the name simple and obvious.

41 [deleted]  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:13:05pm
42 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:13:32pm

It's like he's giving a powerpoint presentation.

43 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:13:55pm

re: #35 wlewisiii

Nah, Aaron's gonna make them cry in Miami when he runs the table.

If I were Manning, I'd quit. Three neck surgeries ain't worth it.

44 allegro  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:14:00pm

cut payroll taxes in half?

45 celticdragon  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:14:07pm

I smell something in here.

46 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:14:08pm

Not gonna happen

47 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:14:21pm

re: #1 Charles

The sound seems to have vanished from the live video. Hope they get it back.

Would be fun to enter our own, like Woody Allens "Whats Up, Tiger Lily"

48 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:14:29pm

re: #41 JustWantSex

American Jobs Act, lol

Welcome, troll.

49 moose9t9  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:14:45pm

Turtle Turtle!!

50 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:14:48pm

sell it baby

51 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:14:54pm

re: #40 celticdragon

American Jobs Act. Good. Keep the name simple and obvious.

and vague!

52 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:15:12pm

re: #45 celticdragon

I smell something in here.

Dark Falcon is cooking grilled troll this evening. He just threw Justwantsex on it.

53 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:15:21pm

50 republicans...good move

54 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:15:35pm

re: #43 Kid A

If I were Manning, I'd quit. Three neck surgeries ain't worth it.

This. It's sad but true and I think he knows it. But he's a lot like Favre in that he doesn't really know anything but football.

55 jaunte  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:16:09pm

Who's against a tax cut and better roads?

56 moose9t9  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:16:11pm

Shit just got real up in hurr!!!

57 engineer cat  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:16:25pm

this is sure coming on strong right off the bat

58 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:16:29pm

re: #48 Kid A

Welcome, troll.

Dammit ,, I just had dinner

Leave me some left overs please!

59 celticdragon  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:16:30pm

It's the American Way to have bridges that collapse into the Ohio River so that we can cut marginal rate taxes.
/

60 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:16:35pm

Is it me or is this, by Obamas' own standards, quite an aggressive speech?

In a good way I mean.

61 makeitstop  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:17:04pm

I'm liking this speech.

62 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:17:19pm

he did a couple shots of Stoly....bet me

63 engineer cat  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:17:20pm

boehner for some reason looking to me like one of those cartoon guys in This Modern Life

64 Atlas Fails  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:17:22pm

Waiting for GOP explanation of why tax cuts for small businesses are bad...

65 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:17:23pm

Child Indoctrination Centers!

66 jaunte  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:17:52pm

Not even Ron Paul earmarks?

67 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:17:58pm

re: #54 wlewisiii

This. It's sad but true and I think he knows it. But he's a lot like Favre in that he doesn't really know anything but football.

I'd disagree, lol. Watch this!

68 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:18:05pm

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Child Indoctrination Centers!

Run by union thugs.

69 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:18:08pm

I don't think so.

70 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:18:27pm

re: #59 celticdragon

It's the American Way to have bridges that collapse into the Ohio River so that we can cut marginal rate taxes.
/

Make it over the Cuyahoga River. I haven't seen a river on fire since!

71 allegro  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:18:55pm

He's making it real tough on GOPers to obstruct this. heh

72 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:19:04pm

"Pass this bill"
/Lame catchphrase

73 celticdragon  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:19:04pm

re: #63 engineer dog

boehner for some reason looking to me like one of those cartoon guys in This Modern Life

I was thinking more along the lines of Ugly Americans...

74 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:19:11pm

"You should pass it right away."

That's Obama saying End. The. Debate. Now.

75 makeitstop  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:19:24pm

I love that he's pointing out that these ideas have been supported by Democrats and Republicans.

If this doesn't connect with Joe Sixpack, we are beyond hope as a country.

76 jaunte  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:19:30pm

Why does Obama hate homeschool?

77 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:19:34pm

re: #71 allegro

He's making it real tough on GOPers to obstruct this. heh

They'll have no problem opposing this. No problem at all.

78 Alexzander  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:19:46pm

re: #72 Killgore Trout

"Pass this bill"
/Lame catchphrase

Definitely a bit awkward.

79 celticdragon  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:19:46pm

Uppity elitist teachers are unconstitutional

80 Atlas Fails  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:19:47pm

Harry Reid, clapping by hitting one hand with a rolled up paper?

81 moose9t9  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:19:54pm

re: #60 HAL2010

Yeah who is this man? What has he done to Sissy Obama?

82 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:19:57pm

re: #72 Killgore Trout

"Pass this bill"
/Lame catchphrase

Replace

bill

with BONG and he'll have more people clapping!

83 recusancy  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:20:14pm

re: #75 makeitstop

I love that he's pointing out that these ideas have been supported by Democrats and Republicans.

If this doesn't connect with Joe Sixpack, we are beyond hope as a country.

Joe Sixpack aint watching this speech.

84 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:20:15pm

re: #75 makeitstop

I love that he's pointing out that these ideas have been supported by Democrats and Republicans.

If this doesn't connect with Joe Sixpack, we are beyond hope as a country.

Stroll through any mall in this country and look at the people in them. We've been fucked for a long time.

85 austin_blue  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:20:17pm

re: #5 celticdragon

I propose two shots of whatever poison you are drinking tonight for any teabagger who interrupts the speech. I will be doing a nice single malt Highland Scotch.

Not this early. I'd like to conscious when the game starts.

86 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:20:18pm

re: #72 Killgore Trout

"Pass this bill"
/Lame catchphrase

Wait for "Can I get an Amen?"

87 erik_t  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:20:24pm

Howdy, folks. Nice to finally wander in with open registration. So strange to see three or four extra buttons per user's post.

88 HAL2010  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:20:50pm

re: #81 moose9t9

Yeah who is this man? What has he done to Sissy Obama?

God knows, but it's about bloody time.

89 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:20:50pm

re: #78 Alexzander

Definitely a bit awkward.

He's also trying to hard to be passionately sincere.

90 celticdragon  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:20:51pm

incentives to hire out of work Americans. About fucking time.

91 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:20:58pm

re: #87 erik_t

Howdy, folks. Nice to finally wander in with open registration. So strange to see three or four extra buttons per user's post.

Don't screw em up!

92 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:21:14pm

his career turns on this speech and the aftermath....he's juiced

93 Alexzander  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:21:16pm

re: #87 erik_t

Howdy, folks. Nice to finally wander in with open registration. So strange to see three or four extra buttons per user's post.

Welcome. An old time reader/lurker?

94 celticdragon  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:21:36pm

re: #87 erik_t

Howdy, folks. Nice to finally wander in with open registration. So strange to see three or four extra buttons per user's post.

Welcome, hatchling.

95 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:21:41pm

Pass the bill, pass the bill, pass the bill.....

96 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:21:43pm

Obama's tie looks very, very Marxist!

97 jaunte  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:21:53pm

Into your pocket, and into the economy.

98 erik_t  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:21:59pm

re: #93 Alexzander

Welcome. An old time reader/lurker?

I think I'd say 'frequent browser'. But I reject labels, or something.

99 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:21:59pm

re: #95 Killgore Trout

Pass the bill, pass the bill, pass the bill...

yeah, I hear ya

100 celticdragon  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:22:12pm

The GOP has been fighting against this tax break for the middle class.

101 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:22:18pm

re: #95 Killgore Trout

Pass the bill, pass the bill, pass the bill...

riveting!

I can see the bumper stickers already!

102 makeitstop  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:22:20pm

Damn. That line about pledges was kickass.

103 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:22:37pm

re: #92 albusteve

his career turns on this speech and the aftermath...he's juiced

Nah, it's not important. It's a lame speech but the bill's never going to pass and everybody knows it. It's all theater.

104 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:22:44pm

Just flogged them with a Norquist.

105 engineer cat  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:22:44pm

maybe he should take a hint from samuel jackson and put it this way:

pass this FUCKING bill!

106 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:22:51pm

he needs to explain how to pay for it

107 austin_blue  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:23:00pm

Here's how.

108 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:23:02pm

re: #105 engineer dog

maybe he should take a hint from samuel jackson and put it this way:

pass this FUCKING bill!

Now that's better.

109 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:23:15pm

re: #106 albusteve

he needs to explain how to pay for it

He already did

"It's paid for"

:)

110 Alexzander  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:23:21pm

re: #103 Killgore Trout

Nah, it's not important. It's a lame speech but the bill's never going to pass and everybody knows it. It's all theater.

Why wont it pass? I haven't been following this closely.

111 celticdragon  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:23:38pm

re: #102 makeitstop

Damn. That line about pledges was kickass.

Where the hell has this Obama been for three years?

112 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:23:52pm

re: #110 Alexzander

Why wont it pass? I haven't been following this closely.

rote

113 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:23:59pm

re: #110 Alexzander

Why wont it pass? I haven't been following this closely.

Because Obama is black.

114 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:24:04pm

"This appraoch is what I've been advocating for months"
How's that working out for you?
/lol

115 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:24:09pm

re: #111 celticdragon

Where the hell has this Obama been for three years?

on the golf course

116 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:24:35pm

re: #115 albusteve

on the golf course

ouch!

117 austin_blue  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:24:43pm

What?!?! Tax the people that actually have extra income?!?!

118 Donna Ballard  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:25:20pm

Oh, oh. He mentioned the "R" word! Bad. bad.

119 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:25:26pm

re: #110 Alexzander

Why wont it pass? I haven't been following this closely.

Because the GOP has no interest in reducing the deficit, creating jobs, or stimulating the economy. They almost defaulted on the debt to avoid doing what Obama's asking them to do now. Not gonna happen.

120 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:25:32pm

re: #115 albusteve

on the golf course

Watching travelogues of Abbottabad.

121 engineer cat  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:25:39pm

re: #110 Alexzander

Why wont it pass? I haven't been following this closely.

it won't pass because obama could submit a bill supporting motherhood and apple pie and the republicans wouldn't pass it

122 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:26:05pm

re: #116 sattv4u2

ouch!

Ill senator...12 handicap....
POTUS....8 handicap

123 Charleston Chew  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:26:16pm

Like the infographic.

124 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:26:24pm

Warren Buffet's secretary should get a raise.

125 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:26:36pm

re: #119 Killgore Trout

Because the GOP has no interest in reducing the deficit, creating jobs, or stimulating the economy. They almost defaulted on the debt to avoid doing what Obama's asking them to do now. Not gonna happen.

almost?...did you get played by that drama?

126 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:26:39pm

re: #120 Decatur Deb

Watching travelogues of Abbottabad.

Is that where Costello met Abbott?

127 austin_blue  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:27:06pm

That got them on their feet.

128 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:27:06pm

re: #122 albusteve

Ill senator...12 handicap...
POTUS...8 handicap

There is no way in hell Obama has an eight handicap. That swing of his makes Charles Barkley's look like Rory McIlroy's.

129 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:27:24pm

re: #128 Kid A

There is no way in hell Obama has an eight handicap. That swing of his makes Charles Barkley's look like Rory McIlroy's.

ouch

130 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:27:34pm

re: #126 sattv4u2

Is that where Costello met Abbott?

Where OBL met Jeezus.

131 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:28:07pm

re: #130 Decatur Deb

Where OBL met Jeezus.

And soon after, Davey Jones!

132 BongCrodny  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:28:17pm

re: #82 sattv4u2

Replace

with BONG and he'll have more people clapping!

Que?

133 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:28:50pm

re: #128 Kid A

There is no way in hell Obama has an eight handicap. That swing of his makes Charles Barkley's look like Rory McIlroy's.

I made that up

134 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:28:58pm

re: #64 Atlas Fails

Waiting for GOP explanation of why tax cuts for small businesses are bad...

Are they going to have their dumb response afterwards, or are they boycotting that, too. e_e

135 Lidane  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:29:02pm

Simple math...I can already hear the GOP spin against that line.

136 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:29:26pm

re: #132 BongCrodny

Que?

re: #132 BongCrodny

Que?

Press 1 for English

137 Lidane  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:29:39pm

re: #134 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Are they going to have their dumb response afterwards, or are they boycotting that, too. e_e

There is no official GOP response. Bachmann is giving a presser instead.

138 Charleston Chew  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:29:50pm

re: #135 Lidane

Simple math...I can already hear the GOP spin against that line.

"Math is the work of the devil!"

139 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:30:04pm

Obama's unilateral action is the only thing going to happen.

140 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:30:07pm

re: #134 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Are they going to have their dumb response afterwards, or are they boycotting that, too. e_e

Even better--the TPGOP is boycotting, but Bachmann broke the boycott. She has a broadcast scheduled.

141 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:30:08pm

re: #134 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Are they going to have their dumb response afterwards, or are they boycotting that, too. e_e

So,,, lose/ lose no matter

Good to have an open mind!

142 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:30:11pm

re: #137 Lidane

There is no official GOP response. Bachmann is giving a presser instead.

Will she look into the right camera?

143 jaunte  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:30:17pm

re: #135 Lidane

Simple math...I can already hear the GOP spin against that line.

The deadbeat dad congressman doesn't do math.

144 engineer cat  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:30:22pm

re: #135 Lidane

Simple math...I can already hear the GOP spin against that line.

the theory that 2 plus 2 equals 4 is still controversial

145 austin_blue  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:30:29pm

JP Morgan just blanched.

146 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:30:30pm

we're saved!
what a relief

147 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:30:31pm

re: #136 sattv4u2

re: #132 BongCrodny

Press 1 for English

Mash the t button for teabag.

148 Charleston Chew  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:30:47pm

re: #144 engineer dog

the theory that 2 plus 2 equals 4 is still controversial

The science is still out.

149 celticdragon  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:30:58pm

re: #115 albusteve

on the golf course

No no no. You left out the bit where he was reading a telepropter in Saul Alinsky's basement while building terrorist bombs for Acorn.
/

150 zora  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:31:03pm

re: #134 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

bachman is responding.

151 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:31:03pm

re: #144 engineer dog

the theory that 2 plus 2 equals 4 is still controversial

Theory, lol!!! Good one!

152 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:31:09pm

re: #141 sattv4u2

So,,, lose/ lose no matter

?

153 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:31:23pm

re: #147 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Mash the t button for teabag.

M for Moonbat

Oh ,, look ,,, it's the same button as "O"!!!!

:)

154 Lidane  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:31:25pm

re: #144 engineer dog

the theory that 2 plus 2 equals 4 is still controversial

The science of 1+1 = 2 hasn't been settled yet!

/Rick Perry

155 celticdragon  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:32:16pm

re: #148 Charleston Chew

The science is still out.

Teach the controversy.

156 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:32:31pm

re: #152 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

?

You stated if they give a response it will be "dumb"

If they don't, you see it as a "boycott"

157 Charleston Chew  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:32:36pm

re: #154 Lidane

The science of 1+1 = 2 hasn't been settled yet!

/Rick Perry

1+1=2 is what the librul funded PBS wants you to believe!

158 Donna Ballard  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:32:37pm

re: #154 Lidane

/Rick Perry

Don't forget the Earth is still flat! //
Oh and the Earth is the center of the known universe too! //

159 austin_blue  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:32:51pm

Hammer and tongs, baby, hammer and tongs!

160 Linden Arden  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:32:56pm

re: #150 zora

Bachmann keeps repeating Politifact's Lie of the Year that "Obamacare is a federal takeover of 1/6th of our economy"

161 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:33:01pm

re: #158 Dragon_Lady

Don't forget the Earth is still flat! //
Oh and the Earth is the center of the known universe too! //

Can't be

I am!!

162 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:33:05pm

USA!
USA!
exceptionalism!

163 Atlas Fails  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:33:10pm

Dick Morris just tweeted "Obama pushes for new entitlement for veterans."

What a loathsome human being.

164 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:33:19pm

lol

165 Charleston Chew  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:33:24pm

re: #160 Linden Arden

Bachmann keeps repeating Politifact's Lie of the Year that "Obamacare is a federal takeover of 1/6th of our economy"

Why not? It's an award-winning lie!

166 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:33:27pm

Is it ovah? Really really weird here. Kpbs goes out on drive home. Get home to huge neighborhood area w/out power & barely any cell coverage. (sunny as usual). Weird.

167 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:33:43pm

re: #154 Lidane

/Rick Perry

There's no consensus!!!

168 zora  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:33:45pm

re: #155 celticdragon

divine math. very similar to trickle down economics.

169 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:33:46pm

re: #156 sattv4u2

You stated if they give a response it will be "dumb"

No, that was not what was stated at all.

If they don't, you see it as a "boycott"

^Tea Party Reading Comprehension 101.

170 Donna Ballard  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:33:47pm

re: #161 sattv4u2

Can't be

I am!!

Silly man, you aren't a Cat Overlord! Are you?

171 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:34:03pm

re: #166 Stanley Sea

Is it ovah? Really really weird here. Kpbs goes out on drive home. Get home to huge neighborhood area w/out power & barely any cell coverage. (sunny as usual). Weird.

Check for black helicopters?

172 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:34:11pm

Obama...
the new face of the GOP

173 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:34:13pm

re: #163 Atlas Fails

Dick Morris just tweeted "Obama pushes for new entitlement for veterans."

What a loathsome human being.

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

174 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:34:20pm

Yeah, sure, jobs, right, but what about American exceptionalism and creeping shariah?

175 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:34:26pm

re: #160 Linden Arden

Bachmann keeps repeating Politifact's Lie of the Year that "Obamacare is a federal takeover of 1/6th of our economy"

Consevrative efficiency. Why replace a perfectly good lie?

176 BongCrodny  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:34:33pm

The truth is, we simply cannot afford to pass the Obamajobs bill!

177 zora  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:34:36pm

re: #160 Linden Arden

re: #160 Linden Arden

let's see if she promises $2 gas again.

178 Talking Point Detective  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:34:37pm

Off-topic, but I have a conundrum that maybe someone here could help me out with.

Take a look at the first two paragraphs o this article:

Texas Gov. Rick Perry's GOP rivals sharply criticized him during Wednesday night's debate over his 2007 executive order mandating that teenage girls be vaccinated to prevent cervical cancer — a move that drew strong opposition at the time from social conservatives and was later overturned by the state Legislature

But they failed to bring up a key part of the story that fueled the Texas controversy and which Democrats are poised to pounce on: Perry's order came after the drug company that manufactured the vaccine hired Mike Toomey, his former chief of staff, as one of the firm's top lobbyists in Austin.

So, should I be more disgusted at the other GOP candidates or politicizing the vaccination of teen girls to prevent life-threatening disease (para #1)?

Or should I be more disgusted at Perry or sucking up to pharmaceutical companies (para #2)?

I'm definitely leaning towards #1, but thought I'd get some advice before reaching a firm conclusion.

179 Targetpractice  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:34:46pm

re: #172 albusteve

Obama...
the new face of the GOP

No shit. Don't know why they hate him so much, he's doing all their work for them.

180 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:34:56pm

re: #168 zora

divine math. very similar to trickle down economics.

In the same fiction section as job creators.

181 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:35:07pm

re: #169 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

No, that was not what was stated at all.

^Tea Party Reading Comprehension 101.


Are they going to have their dumb response afterwards, or are they boycotting that, too.

K

182 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:36:27pm

I guess I'm not an American with my own rules

183 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:36:40pm

Did Obama just dis libertarians?

184 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:36:45pm

re: #178 Talking Point Detective

How about #3 - nothing that stupid confederate does can be trusted by normal people?

185 Atlas Fails  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:36:58pm

re: #173 Kid A

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

In fairness, the veteran moocher class is a real fucking drag on our economy.

186 Charleston Chew  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:37:02pm

I guess I'm hopelessly biased because this guy still seems more Presidential to me than anyone I saw last night.

187 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:37:02pm

re: #174 Charles

Yeah, sure, jobs, right, but what about American exceptionalism and creeping shariah?

And protecting the unborn from demonic doctors hellbent on murder and promoting the evils of liberalism!!!

188 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:37:11pm

LINCOLN!
progs are dying, coast to coast

189 moose9t9  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:37:28pm

Lincoln? Game Set and Match. Chuggin the whiskey!

190 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:37:40pm

re: #181 sattv4u2


Are they going to have their dumb response afterwards, or are they boycotting that, too.

K

Pointing and crying, yawn.

191 recusancy  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:37:44pm

More of this please.

192 austin_blue  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:37:46pm

Take that! GI Bill!

193 The Gender Ambiguity of a Flea  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:37:59pm

re: #130 Decatur Deb

Where OBL met Jeezus.

Given his purported faith, OBL met the Malak al-Maut, Azaariyl, then Munkar and Nunkir, and the 19 Zabaniah...who proceeded to go both medieval and sick-house on his bony ass.

(for those unacquainted...I'm saying his ass is in the hottest part of hell)

194 jaunte  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:38:07pm

Galt's Gulch, Texas is burning down.

195 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:38:09pm

re: #190 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Pointing and crying, yawn.

have a cookie

196 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:38:16pm

re: #185 Atlas Fails

In fairness, the veteran moocher class is a real fucking drag on our economy.

Yeah, and those god damned veterans and their stupid psychological problems from multiple tours in Afghanistan. Fuck them!
//////

197 celticdragon  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:38:21pm

Cheap uneducated labor and no pollution standards are what made America great!!

Grover T. Moneybags, 1890

198 Lidane  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:38:33pm

Dear Obama --

This kind of fire for the next 14 months, please. Kthxbai.

Me

199 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:38:37pm

He finds himself having to defend the whole New Deal and the last half of the XXth Cent. It's become that bad.

200 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:38:39pm

re: #190 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Pointing and crying, yawn.

Maybe you should go lie down

Doesn't seem as if you can recall what you just stated, even after it was recalled for you

201 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:38:42pm

re: #195 albusteve

have a cookie

After you.

202 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:38:47pm

UNDER GOD?

HOLY SHIT!

203 austin_blue  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:38:56pm

Wow. Good stuff.

204 Atlas Fails  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:39:14pm

Without research universities, liberal elitist professors wouldn't be able brainwash our childrens with ungodly theories!!! I didn't come from no monkey!!!111!!11ty

205 allegro  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:39:15pm

Only Dems applaud at the idea that they should meet their responsibilities. Wow what a surprise.

206 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:39:18pm

re: #200 sattv4u2

Maybe you should go lie down

Stop yelling, pls.

207 celticdragon  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:39:28pm

John OF Orange looks like he just ate a big salty bag of dicks.

208 Targetpractice  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:39:35pm

re: #198 Lidane

Dear Obama --

This kind of fire for the next 14 months, please. Kthxbai.

Me

Obama '08 is peeking his head out. Good times.

209 Lidane  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:39:38pm

re: #199 Decatur Deb

He finds himself having to defend the whole New Deal and the last half of the XXth Cent. It's become that bad.

That's because the GOP would rather take us back to the 19th Century. =P

210 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:39:48pm

re: #201 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

After you.

you'll get it after awhile

211 engineer cat  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:39:52pm

do you see the confused look on boehner's face on the concept of "responsibilities to one another"?

212 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:40:16pm

re: #204 Atlas Fails

MY TAX MUNNY!!!! oh wait, what was the topic..

213 Donna Ballard  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:40:20pm

re: #209 Lidane

That's because the GOP would rather take us back to the 19th Century. =P

More like the 18th...

214 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:40:40pm

re: #206 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Stop yelling, pls.

Highlighting is yelling!

mmmkkkaaay

testy testy

You REALLY need to lay down!

215 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:40:44pm

re: #207 celticdragon

John OF Orange looks like he just ate a big salty bag of dicks.

His trademark look.

216 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:41:03pm

re: #214 sattv4u2

Highlighting is yelling!

mmmkkkaaay

testy testy

You REALLY need to lay down!

Ain't happenin'; move on.

217 Atlas Fails  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:41:12pm

re: #188 albusteve

LINCOLN!
progs are dying, coast to coast

Lincoln was always one of my favorite presidents. Most people who hate him are white trash losers who think his Northern army attacked them so the negroes could steal their jobs.

218 Lidane  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:41:12pm

re: #207 celticdragon

John OF Orange looks like he just ate a big salty bag of dicks.

He always looks like that. It must be all that self-tanner he uses.

219 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:41:13pm

re: #210 albusteve

you'll get it after awhile

I have $50 here says you're wrong!

220 austin_blue  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:41:13pm

Bully Pulpit!

221 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:41:29pm

re: #216 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Ain't happenin'; move on.

Lead on!

222 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:41:34pm

re: #216 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Ain't happenin'; move on.

you're behind, not us

223 jaunte  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:41:45pm

re: #211 engineer dog

do you see the confused look on boehner's face on the concept of "responsibilities to one another"?

"Why doesn't everyone just get a job at a family member's bar?"

224 Donna Ballard  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:41:56pm

re: #220 austin_blue

Bully Pulpit!

A ginormous one at that!

225 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:42:00pm

Anyone think this bill will pass?

226 Lidane  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:42:07pm

re: #220 austin_blue

Bully Pulpit!

Dear GOP --

Bully pulpit. I haz one. Remember that.

Barack Obama

227 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:42:11pm

Bring on the crazy lady!

228 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:42:14pm

re: #223 jaunte

"Why doesn't everyone just get a job at a family member's bar?"

{hic}

Works for me!

229 Linden Arden  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:42:15pm

I know this is one thread late but its a jaw dropper.

David Barton commented on a new release of the Jefferson Bible (where TJ wanted to separate the "diamonds from the dunghills" and cut the miracles out).

Barton - "Jefferson intended his Bible to be a primer for Indians" and was really a traditional Christian.


link

230 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:42:22pm

re: #219 sattv4u2

I have $50 here says you're wrong!

here's your $50

231 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:42:33pm

re: #230 albusteve

here's your $50

:)

232 Lidane  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:42:41pm

re: #225 Killgore Trout

Anyone think this bill will pass?

Nope. But he has something to beat the GOP with for the next 14 months if it doesn't.

233 recusancy  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:42:54pm

re: #225 Killgore Trout

Anyone think this bill will pass?

If he can keep this fire in his belly and give the dems a spine there's at least a chance.

234 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:43:00pm

re: #217 Atlas Fails

Lincoln was always one of my favorite presidents. Most people who hate him are white trash losers who think his Northern army attacked them so the negroes could steal their jobs.

Damned coloreds!

235 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:43:00pm

re: #225 Killgore Trout

Anyone think this bill will pass?

think positive

236 Interesting Times  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:43:01pm

re: #225 Killgore Trout

Anyone think this bill will pass?

The GOP would more willingly pass kidney stones the size of golf balls.

237 Targetpractice  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:43:04pm

re: #225 Killgore Trout

Anyone think this bill will pass?

Not a chance. But he's pretty much daring the GOP to kill it, as if there's any doubt they will. What comes next is seeing if he can spin that into his favor in coming days and weeks.

238 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:43:17pm

re: #217 Atlas Fails

Lincoln was always one of my favorite presidents. Most people who hate him are white trash losers who think his Northern army attacked them so the negroes could steal their jobs.

Yeah but the same will wave a Confederate flag and shriek party of Lincoln at the same time, all while trying to get us to mash the R instead of the D.

I wonder why they think that will ever work.

239 Donna Ballard  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:43:19pm

re: #225 Killgore Trout

Anyone think this bill will pass?

Um, no. He sounds good, but I'm afraid his own party won't let him walk the walk. Heck, the GOP will hog tie him ASAP! He won't be walking anywhere if they have their way!

240 austin_blue  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:43:24pm

Woot! Killer speech. Thirty minutes of In Your Face.

241 engineer cat  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:43:26pm
Pass The Fucking Bill!
242 Amory Blaine  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:43:30pm

re: #227 Killgore Trout

Bring on the crazy lady!

Switching to the packer game...

243 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:43:39pm

re: #225 Killgore Trout

Anyone think this bill will pass?

It could

Oh, there'll be some haggling and tweaking. That way both sides can claim "VICTORY" less than 12 months before a national election

244 erik_t  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:44:09pm

re: #242 Amory Blaine

Switching to the packer game...

Harumph! I would prefer to watch Arizona driven before me and hear the lamentations of its students.

245 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:44:14pm

re: #235 albusteve

think positive

Sorry, I'm all out of positive.

246 Atlas Fails  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:44:23pm

re: #235 albusteve

think positive

Irony, or is steve turning over a new leaf? Stay tuned!

247 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:44:36pm

re: #221 sattv4u2

Lead on!

re: #222 albusteve

you're behind, not us

You guys are only in a competition with yourselves. Who's winning? What's the prize?

248 Donna Ballard  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:44:54pm

re: #245 Killgore Trout

Sorry, I'm all out of positive.

Me too, the politicians have taxed it all outta me...

249 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:45:04pm

re: #245 Killgore Trout

Sorry, I'm all out of positive.

Oh, I'm not. It's been way worse than this.

250 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:45:06pm

re: #247 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

re: #222 albusteve

You guys are only in a competition with yourselves. Who's winning? What's the prize?

The winner gets to take you out one night

The loser takes you out for two!

251 Charleston Chew  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:45:20pm

re: #208 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Obama '08 is peeking his head out. Good times.

Like he was visited by the ghost of Truman in the night.

252 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:45:24pm

re: #245 Killgore Trout

Sorry, I'm all out of positive.

it's free....you just never know how things will turn

253 The Gender Ambiguity of a Flea  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:45:36pm

re: #196 Kid A

Yeah, and those god damned veterans and their stupid psychological problems from multiple tours in Afghanistan. Fuck them!
///

Now, now. They've got combat boot straps, and will be just fine.//

254 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:45:43pm

Great speech! No way any right wingers will be upset over that. I'm sure the bill will pass right away. (That's me in pathetically naive mode.)

255 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:45:46pm

((hey ,, you throw a hanging curve, i'm going for the fences))

256 Targetpractice  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:45:49pm

re: #243 sattv4u2

It could

Oh, there'll be some haggling and tweaking. That way both sides can claim "VICTORY" less than 12 months before a national election

The only way it passes is after the GOP has taken time to savage it beyond recognition, then plugged the holes up with their own "ideas." I'm sure there's already work being done behind closed doors to put out a GOP "alternative plan."

257 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:45:59pm

Nice!

None of the dumb confederates even cried out this time. Or were they boycotting, dunno. /

258 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:46:36pm

re: #247 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

re: #222 albusteve

You guys are only in a competition with yourselves. Who's winning? What's the prize?

you'll pick it up this coming election....we try to have fun in spite of you crap

259 recusancy  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:46:39pm

Blonde Fox lady likes it.

260 3CPO  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:46:46pm

Damn, I thought it started at 5.

Now I'll have to look for the replay...

261 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:46:46pm

re: #250 sattv4u2

The winner gets to take you out one night

The loser takes you out for two!

Won't ever happen; I'm not either of your type.

262 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:47:43pm

re: #258 albusteve

you'll pick it up this coming election...we try to have fun in spite of you crap

It's all in fun. No one is forcing you to respond to what you see as crap.

263 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:47:48pm

re: #261 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Won't ever happen; I'm not either of your type.

Not nice? Yeah,, that is a drawback!

264 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:48:05pm

I liked it...aside from he said pass this bill a few too many times

265 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:48:40pm

I mean, what could anyone be upset about in that? All good positive suggestions to make the economy better.

You'd have to be crazy to take offense at anything in that speech.

266 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:48:43pm

re: #262 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

It's all in fun. No one is forcing you to respond to what you see as crap.

LOL!

267 Bubblehead II  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:48:44pm

re: #225 Killgore Trout

Anyone think this bill will pass?

I give it a snowballs chance in the traditional christian hell.

268 celticdragon  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:49:12pm

Good point by Chris Matthews on using short Anglo-Saxon words instead of long Latin words. Very true.

269 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:49:16pm

re: #264 albusteve

I liked it...aside from he said pass this bill a few too many times

That was for the Slow Learners and the Low Retainers.

270 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:49:20pm

re: #254 Charles

Great speech! No way any right wingers will be upset over that. I'm sure the bill will pass right away. (That's me in pathetically naive mode.)

Obama could promise the Republicans free Unicorns and they'd ask them why he couldn't give them Alicorns instead.

271 RogueOne  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:49:23pm

He should have proposed this in '09. If he could swap this speech/stimulus package with the other he wouldn't be in the hole by 30 pts with independents.

272 FitzroyMcLean  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:49:41pm

re: #120 Decatur Deb

Oh deb! I laughed so hard I woke my son who I just spent the last hour trying to get to fall asleep. Curses you!

273 recusancy  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:49:47pm

re: #262 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

It's all in fun. No one is forcing you to respond to what you see as crap.

Seriously. It's pointless fighting with them. They're just trolling you and you're falling for it.

274 Racer X  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:49:55pm
Pass This Bill!

So you can see what's in it!

275 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:49:57pm

re: #269 Decatur Deb

That was for the Slow Learners and the Low Retainers.

I KNEW I should have written it down!!

Can you repeat it for me,, just one more time!!

276 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:50:07pm

re: #274 Racer X

So you can see what's in it!

ouch

277 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:50:10pm

re: #265 Charles

I mean, what could anyone be upset about in that? All good positive suggestions to make the economy better.

You'd have to be crazy to take offense at anything in that speech.

What time is Crazy's response?
Are we liveblogging her?

278 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:50:31pm

re: #273 recusancy

Seriously. It's pointless fighting with them. They're just trolling you and you're falling for it.

trolling?
hahaha!

279 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:50:36pm

re: #263 sattv4u2

Not nice? Yeah,, that is a drawback!

Your courtin' is rebuffed.

280 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:51:00pm

re: #279 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Your courtin' is rebuffed.

I feel as if I just hit the lottery!

281 recusancy  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:51:03pm

re: #271 RogueOne

He should have proposed this in '09. If he could swap this speech/stimulus package with the other he wouldn't be in the hole by 30 pts with independents.

So you're all for it then I take???

282 erik_t  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:51:29pm

I have little doubt that Crazy Eyes (or most of the other candidates) would have been quite willing to deliver an angry rebuttal speech the day before Obama's, proposal-unseen.

283 Amory Blaine  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:51:48pm

Meh. I didn't care for all the voice cracking, maybe call it his "concerned" voice. Started rubbing me wrong. Asking the congress to pass his bill repeatedly is guaranteed GOP opposition.

284 Atlas Fails  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:51:57pm

Anyone know where we can catch the BachmannFail?

285 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:52:49pm

re: #271 RogueOne

He should have proposed this in '09. If he could swap this speech/stimulus package with the other he wouldn't be in the hole by 30 pts with independents.

agreed....he blew it then, but this is now

286 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:53:27pm

re: #270 jamesfirecat

Obama could promise the Republicans free Unicorns and they'd ask them why he couldn't give them Alicorns instead.

Agreed. He could lower the corporate tax rate to -20 and overturn Roe v Wade via EO..still won't be -100 and contraception would still be legal, eee.

287 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:54:06pm

re: #286 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Agreed. He could lower the corporate tax rate to -20 and overturn Roe v Wade via EO..still won't be -100 and contraception would still be legal, eee.

make stuff up much?...where's the purple?

288 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:54:33pm

re: #287 albusteve

make stuff up much?...where's the purple?

Prince has a closet full of it!

289 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:55:03pm

re: #287 albusteve

make stuff up much?...where's the purple?

e_e

Coulndn't find the [hyperbole] tag.

290 RogueOne  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:55:17pm

re: #281 recusancy

So you're all for it then I take???

I would have been two years ago, except for the portions that are designed to do nothing other than keep state employees employed. Eventually the money runs out and your're right back worse than where you started. That part didn't work the last time so it makes perfect sense for the government to go ahead and do it again.

On the whole though, I thought he gave an A- speech. I don't agree with every proposal but he sounded great.

291 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:55:30pm

re: #289 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

e_e

Coulndn't find the [hyperbole] tag.

why even bother?

292 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:55:48pm

re: #273 recusancy

Seriously. It's pointless fighting with them. They're just trolling you and you're falling for it.

But it's not a fight. I think it's hilarious.

293 engineer cat  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:56:03pm

re: #265 Charles

I mean, what could anyone be upset about in that? All good positive suggestions to make the economy better.

You'd have to be crazy to take offense at anything in that speech.

undoubtedly true, but i am reminded of the famous story about when adlai stevenson was running for president:

"governor stevenson, you have the vote of every thinking person!"

"but i need a majority!"

294 allegro  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:56:22pm

re: #290 RogueOne

I would have been two years ago, except for the portions that are designed to do nothing other than keep state employees employed. Eventually the money runs out and your're right back worse than where you started. That part didn't work the last time so it makes perfect sense for the government to go ahead and do it again.

On the whole though, I thought he gave an A- speech. I don't agree with every proposal but he sounded great.

What state employees do you think should go?

295 Targetpractice  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:56:56pm

re: #283 Amory Blaine

Meh. I didn't care for all the voice cracking, maybe call it his "concerned" voice. Started rubbing me wrong. Asking the congress to pass his bill repeatedly is guaranteed GOP opposition.

Yeah, but it's not just any bill, it's a jobs bill. You know, that thing that the GOP ran upon last year? From all appearances, he's looking to capitalize either way. Either they pass the bill, which lets him take credit if job creation perks up between now and next November. Or they kill it and he goes to work on them for not caring about jobs when that's all the public's focused on right now.

296 Racer X  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:57:31pm
Pass This Bill!

Because all of the other job-creating spending bills have worked so well.

297 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:57:45pm

re: #290 RogueOne

OT

Sorry about Peyton, man

I tried to tell you and Hossier the other morning!

In my job ,, I "hear" things that aren't aired days before

298 Donna Ballard  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:57:49pm

Gotta go, BBL. Keep Laughing Everyone!

299 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:57:51pm

re: #292 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

But it's not a fight. I think it's hilarious.

you two need a sit down to get your hilarity/fighting figured out...nothing looks worse than two trolls on opposite pages

300 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:57:52pm

re: #291 albusteve

why even bother?

Why not; doesn't matter.

301 RogueOne  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:58:25pm

re: #294 allegro

What state employees do you think should go?

The ones the states can't afford.

302 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:58:51pm

re: #295 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Or they kill it and he goes to work on them for not caring about jobs when that's all the public's focused on right now.

I don't think they'll care about that. They haven't thus far.

303 allegro  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:58:52pm

re: #296 Racer X

Because all of the other job-creating spending bills have worked so well.

What jobs bills?

304 zora  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:58:58pm

re: #296 Racer X

i'm sure if you were jobless you would want them to keep trying.

305 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:59:15pm

New terror threat from Pakistan.

306 RogueOne  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 4:59:41pm

re: #297 sattv4u2

OT

Sorry about Peyton, man

I tried to tell you and Hossier the other morning!

In my job ,, I "hear" things that aren't aired days before

Thanks man. I'm still pretty shook up. My eyes are getting moist again just thinking about it.

At least Brees is on tonight.

307 Interesting Times  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:00:25pm

re: #305 Charles

New terror threat from Pakistan.

This one?

mpoppel Michael van Poppel
by BreakingNews
ABC News update says U.S. officials believe 3, not 2, individuals have entered the US to launch a car bomb attack

308 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:00:39pm

re: #299 albusteve

you two need a sit down to get your hilarity/fighting figured out...nothing looks worse than two trolls on opposite pages

Are you a moderator here?

309 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:00:40pm

re: #305 Charles

New terror threat from Pakistan.

:(

Geezzz Louise

Chatter has something planned for the 9/11 anniversary

310 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:01:03pm

re: #306 RogueOne

Thanks man. I'm still pretty shook up. My eyes are getting moist again just thinking about it.

At least Brees is on tonight.

I'm bummed out..Without Peyton we are a middle of the road team

311 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:01:06pm

re: #308 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Are you a moderator here?

No ,, but he DID stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night

312 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:01:20pm

re: #308 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Are you a moderator here?

non of your business....find another topic

313 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:01:49pm

re: #310 HoosierHoops

I'm bummed out..Without Peyton we are a middle of the road team

Sorry man. Tried to warn you a few mornings ago

314 austin_blue  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:01:59pm

re: #265 Charles

I mean, what could anyone be upset about in that? All good positive suggestions to make the economy better.

You'd have to be crazy to take offense at anything in that speech.

DERP!

315 albusteve  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:02:12pm

re: #310 HoosierHoops

I'm bummed out..Without Peyton we are a middle of the road team

yeah...he might consider retiring...his neck problems transcend football

316 RogueOne  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:02:53pm

re: #310 HoosierHoops

I'm bummed out..Without Peyton we are a middle of the road team

It will be an interesting season. It should still be fun. There won't be many games where they won't have to play just about perfectly to win.

317 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:02:58pm

re: #312 albusteve

non of your business...find another topic

In otherwords, no. Nothing changes, sorry.

318 RogueOne  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:03:41pm

Games about to start. Have a good night people!

319 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:04:12pm

re: #265 Charles

You'd have to be crazy to take offense at anything in that speech.

Watch 'em; they will.

320 austin_blue  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:04:24pm

re: #307 publicityStunted

This one?

Well, shit. Buzz kill.

321 sattv4u2  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:05:32pm

Outskies Twoskies

322 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:05:51pm

re: #265 Charles

Hot Air comments are full of rAAaaAAge [Link: hotair.com...]


Look at that wingnut ant farm go

323 blueraven  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:05:55pm

re: #296 Racer X

Because all of the other job-creating spending bills have worked so well.

And the tax cut spending for the top has really worked out well!

324 Interesting Times  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:06:21pm

re: #320 austin_blue

Well, shit. Buzz kill.

Terrorist plots being inevitable, I suppose I'd rather they be attempted during a period of super-heightened security when they're far more likely to be foiled.

325 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:06:53pm

re: #296 Racer X

Because all of the other job-creating spending bills have worked so well.

you're a real thinker

blowin' me away with all that thinkin'

326 engineer cat  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:09:00pm

re: #296 Racer X

Because all of the other job-creating spending bills have worked so well.

no, because the bush era tax cuts that were supposed to get the economy moving have worked so well

327 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:14:10pm

re: #296 Racer X

Because all of the other job-creating spending bills have worked so well.

Actually, the Stimulus package worked, it just wasn't big enough. Yes I'm a libertarian. But everyone seems to forget that 1/3 of the stimulus package was a tax cut, another third was money given directly to the states to cover *their* shortfall. and only 1/3 was used towards any sort of construction and actual stimulus spending.

Meanwhile you had the GDP crash at the end of 2008 into 2009 that put 4 million people out of work, and a real world reduction of the GDP by half a trillion dollars.

If anything the Stimulus stabilized the situation and prevented the economy from continuing it's free fall. If you haven't noticed, as the stimulus spending and QE2 is winding down, the economy is starting to break down again. Mind you, the break down isn't as bad precisely because of the stimulus package, QE2 and TARP restored enough confidence to prevent a depression.

Meanwhile we're still looking at a real specter of a deflationary spiral, we're already mired in a liquidity trap, demand side recessions with low inflation is notoriously difficult to work out of.

We're not even going to talk about how austerity isn't working for Europe. but I will if you want me to. :)

(reposting this upthread)

328 Amory Blaine  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:18:44pm

Just downloaded Dead Island. I'm going in..

329 roberta g  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:20:05pm

Help, please....Hi, I joined a while ago but have posted a minute amount, incorrectly.-I lurk and rec, I enjoy the balanced banter here, though I am a lefty;) Also I hope a regular poster will tell me, when responding to a comment, if I should delete all these greater than and less than signs and numbers in the post a comment box and am I supposed to type before or after them? Just in case I want to post. If there are directions on how to post please just tell me where to look. Thanks so much, roberta

330 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:30:46pm

re: #329 roberta g

The greater and less than signs are part of the syntax (computer talk) that tells the page what goes where and what belongs to who. If delete them, a person you were quoting, becomes part of your comments.

331 Bubblehead II  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:36:54pm

re: #329 roberta g

Help, please...Hi, I joined a while ago but have posted a minute amount, incorrectly.-I lurk and rec, I enjoy the balanced banter here, though I am a lefty;) Also I hope a regular poster will tell me, when responding to a comment, if I should delete all these greater than and less than signs and numbers in the post a comment box and am I supposed to type before or after them? Just in case I want to post. If there are directions on how to post please just tell me where to look. Thanks so much, roberta

Welcome to Jungle :-)

No, you don't want to delete the less than/greater than signs or the numbers. They are part of the HTML code used in the block quote function.

You can type your response either before or after them as you choose, but most Lizards (like me) type after them.

332 roberta g  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:40:32pm

re: #330 LudwigVanQuixote
Thanks so much, this may not look stupid ;)

333 roberta g  Thu, Sep 8, 2011 5:47:01pm

re: #331 Bubblehead II
Thanks for the tips, I don't even want to know (and I am serious) about quoting the comment-one look at the reply box would most likely freak me out. Happy to be able to reply ;)

334 leftynyc  Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:13:33am

re: #188 albusteve

LINCOLN!
progs are dying, coast to coast

Not at all Steve. The pubs want to claim Lincoln - he's giving them the whole story. He's pushing their faces into his record.

335 Jaerik  Fri, Sep 9, 2011 12:25:44pm

re: #199 Decatur Deb

He finds himself having to defend the whole New Deal and the last half of the XXth Cent. It's become that bad.

My dad, last night:

"Well, the New Deal was a failure."
"How so?"
"Government spending just made [the Depression] longer and deeper."
"What got us out of it, then?"
"The massive stimulus from World War II, duh."
"Who signed the checks? The private sector?"
". . ."
"I'm waiting."
"That's different."


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