Here’s a pretty amazing demonstration of the crude reactionary agenda of Fox News, a compilation of their “coverage” of clean energy technologies. This isn’t just ignorance at work; Fox is promoting the interests of the fossil fuel industries, to the detriment of the whole world.
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shutdown Wed, Nov 16, 2011 4:45:26pm |
The FOX newscasts are increasingly indistinguishable from Onion News Network spoofs.
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engineer cat Wed, Nov 16, 2011 4:46:09pm |
Fox News’s Appalling Promotion of Environmental Ignorance
Fox News’s Appalling Ignorance
Fox News is Appalling
Fox "News"
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Bubblehead II Wed, Nov 16, 2011 4:49:01pm |
Green Energy, the biggest Hoax since the Moon Landing? At 1.40 min. You have to got to be kidding me.
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shutdown Wed, Nov 16, 2011 4:49:51pm |
re: #3 Bubblehead II
Green Energy, the biggest Hoax since the Moon Landing? At 1.40 min. You have to got to be kidding me.
How the frack did you make it through more than 30 seconds of this moronic drivel?
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wrenchwench Wed, Nov 16, 2011 4:51:30pm |
The reply and quote buttons are green font. Is that in honor of this thread's topic?
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jaunte Wed, Nov 16, 2011 4:51:30pm |
These same Fox commentators are probably happy consumers of imported German products made with solar power:
[Link: www.grist.org...]
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shutdown Wed, Nov 16, 2011 4:52:24pm |
re: #5 wrenchwench
The reply and quote buttons are green font. Is that in honor of this thread's topic?
Mine aren't... having a red shift, are we? How's the merlot this evening ;)
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Interesting Times Wed, Nov 16, 2011 4:52:42pm |
Meanwhile, in the reality-based world the rest of us try to live in:
The Navy has always led when we’ve changed energy. In the 1850's, we went from sail to coal. In the early part of the 20th century, we went from coal to oil. We pioneered the use of nuclear for transportation in the 1950's. Every single time we did these things there were people who said "it's a fad." There were people who said "you're trading one very known source of propulsion or energy for something that's unsure - too expensive or just won't work." And every single time they were wrong. Every single time. And I am absolutely confident those folks are going to be wrong this time too.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Nov 16, 2011 4:52:42pm |
re: #4 imp_62
How the frack did you make it through more than 30 seconds of this moronic drivel?
Beer. Lots of beer. It makes moronic statements like this seem logical in a weird sort of way.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 4:53:04pm |
the energy solution is right under our nose....Hyperion
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Wozza Matter? Wed, Nov 16, 2011 4:53:44pm |
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wrenchwench Wed, Nov 16, 2011 4:53:54pm |
Wind power! Don't make me laugh!
The power answer for 402,000 Tucson Electric customers may be blowing in the wind. The southern Arizona utility now has its very first wind energy resource capable of providing power for 14,000 homes with the 50-megawatt Macho Springs Wind Farm in Deming, N.M.
The wind farm went online this week in southwest New Mexico with 28 turbines on approximately 2,000 acres of ranch land. Macho Springs was developed in an area with strong, steady winds and existing transmission lines to deliver energy to Tucson.
[...]
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 4:54:47pm |
I predict the meme 'green tech' will go the way of AGW....dead
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wrenchwench Wed, Nov 16, 2011 4:56:01pm |
re: #7 imp_62
Mine aren't... having a red shift, are we? How's the merlot this evening ;)
I'm still at work. I have been using Simple Green all day...undiluted...
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 4:56:58pm |
re: #12 wrenchwench
I saw scores of mills between ABQ and Ill a few weeks ago...I'd estimate than less than half of those ugly monsters were twirling...same in west Texas...wtf is going on?
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rwmofo Wed, Nov 16, 2011 4:57:24pm |
"Fox is promoting the interests of the fossil fuel industries..." cuz our tree-hugging friends haven't delivered their wind-powered tractor-trailer rigs which transport food to the grocery stores yet. So let's raise taxes!
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wrenchwench Wed, Nov 16, 2011 4:57:55pm |
re: #16 albusteve
I saw scores of mills between ABQ and Ill a few weeks ago...I'd estimate than less than half of those ugly monsters were twirling...same in west Texas...wtf is going on?
There's no shortage of wind in Deming.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 4:58:57pm |
re: #18 wrenchwench
There's no shortage of wind in Deming.
of you live in Deming then I'll pray for you...wind power is a joke
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wrenchwench Wed, Nov 16, 2011 4:59:12pm |
re: #17 rwmofo
"Fox is promoting the interests of the fossil fuel industries..." cuz our tree-hugging friends haven't delivered their wind-powered tractor-trailer rigs which transport food to the grocery stores yet. So let's raise taxes!
Oh, look what the subtitle says!
Keeping the right wing ignorant
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:00:07pm |
re: #15 wrenchwench
I'm still at work. I have been using Simple Green all day...undiluted...
That stuff kills ants apparently on contact.
On the down side, it smells like Simple Green.
Would it be impossible to make the stuff environment-friendly and give it a fresh, citrusy odor? Citrus is natural.
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rwmofo Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:00:27pm |
Jeez, you guys are turning on Killgore? Why does this surprise me? He seems like a reasonable guy. Oh, yeah. Makes sense now.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:00:57pm |
why can't we put a wind farm off Nantucket?....how about a solar farm in the CA Mohave?....powerful donks, that's why....NIMBY crosses party lines
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wrenchwench Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:01:30pm |
re: #19 albusteve
of you live in Deming then I'll pray for you...wind power is a joke
No, I don't live there, thank goodness.
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Interesting Times Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:01:47pm |
re: #17 rwmofo
Stuff this down your craw. Note, also, how much more useful that woman is to humanity than someone like you.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:02:04pm |
re: #22 rwmofo
Jeez, you guys are turning on Killgore? Why does this surprise me? He seems like a reasonable guy. Oh, yeah. Makes sense now.
he's the new whipping boy for the Butthurt Bunch
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:02:40pm |
re: #24 wrenchwench
No, I don't live there, thank goodness.
if you ever go there call me, and I'll mount a rescue attempt
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Charles Johnson Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:04:05pm |
re: #20 wrenchwench
Saying the incantation "keeping the right wing ignorant" summons up rwmofo, to serve as an object example.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:05:12pm |
re: #14 albusteve
I predict the meme 'green tech' will go the way of AGW...dead
And I predict you'll eat those words.
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Cheechako Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:05:43pm |
Last February Tuscon went through a cold snap with 17 degrees temps and 30 MPH winds. The city had to turn off their natural gas lines in 1/3 of the city due to reduced pressures in the lines because of heavy natural gas use. Lots of homes with frozen water lines along with a bunch of frozen engine blocks. They need this extra "green" power to substitute for limited natural gas supplies.
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makeitstop Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:06:21pm |
I already watched an O'Reilly clip today. I think I'm good for another week.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:06:26pm |
A global warming thread about me? It's all about me me me!
Jim Norton - Me Me Me (Dru Boogie)
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jaunte Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:06:43pm |
re: #23 albusteve
According to the DOE, the levelized cost of wind power on land is $115mwh vs. $349mwh offshore.
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Interesting Times Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:06:44pm |
re: #28 Charles
Saying the incantation "keeping the right wing ignorant" summons up rwmofo, to serve as an object example.
Nice to know he considers the Secretary of the Navy a "treehugger". 9_9
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:07:15pm |
somehow this looming energy crisis needs to be seized away from party partisans...it's a national security issue and needs to be approached accordingly....fuck the climate bangers, go around them...if there is a better angle, I've not heard it yet
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:07:26pm |
re: #34 publicityStunted
Nice to know he considers the Secretary of the Navy a "treehugger". 9_9
Well, you know how those guys cling on to masts in a storm.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:09:19pm |
re: #29 Charles
And I predict you'll eat those words.
I hope so...the entire gig has run out of juice and somehow needs to be revitalized...if Kermit the Frog can get some traction, let him
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Interesting Times Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:10:19pm |
re: #30 Cheechako
Last February Tuscon went through a cold snap with 17 degrees temps and 30 MPH winds. The city had to turn off their natural gas lines in 1/3 of the city due to reduced pressures in the lines because of heavy natural gas use. Lots of homes with frozen water lines along with a bunch of frozen engine blocks. They need this extra "green" power to substitute for limited natural gas supplies.
Arizona's best bet for green power would be solar, something congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was quite involved in.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:12:55pm |
re: #33 jaunte
According to the DOE, the levelized cost of wind power on land is $115mwh vs. $349mwh offshore.
I drove almost 3k miles a couple of weeks ago, through prime wind country...it's frustrating to see these ungainly beasts out there in the prairie not spinning...a few down I can understand, but so many not spinning?
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elizajane Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:13:54pm |
I got through 2.5 minutes of the compilation before I had to go throw up a little bit.
That is really, really revolting. I thought I was beyond being shocked by Fox, but I wasn't.
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jaunte Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:14:40pm |
re: #39 albusteve
Don't know; I passed a bunch out there on a mesa in between Santa Fe and Alamogordo last summer, and they seemed to be rotating ok.
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rwmofo Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:15:21pm |
One of the red flags I noticed with the sourcing of "Think Progress" is that they use Media Matters. That explains the deceptive editing. But here's a real knee-slapper:
"Fox also perpetuates the false narrative that the Obama administration has stifled domestic oil production."
Ummm, are we drilling in ANWR now? Maybe along our coast lines where we know there are billions of gallons of untapped oil? Yeah, right. The angry left will never run out of flat-earth, low-information individuals to push their cause.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:16:40pm |
How come Dutch windmills are picturesque, and ours are atrocious?
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Bubblehead II Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:17:10pm |
Wind Power. It is growing.
I have seen both the power heads (generators), blades and the columns going South into Nevada (Hwy 93). This project will be completed. Will it perform as advertised? Time will tell. But at least someone/thing (Corp) is trying.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:17:12pm |
re: #41 jaunte
Don't know; I passed a bunch out there on a mesa in between Santa Fe and Alamogordo last summer, and they seemed to be rotating ok.
yeah, there is plenty I don't know...but every time I drive across the Panhandle the damn things do not seem to be doing anything....there is engineering involved that escapes me, but if you put those god awful things out there, it eases the rap when they seem to be working...that's all
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TedStriker Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:17:55pm |
re: #28 Charles
Saying the incantation "keeping the right wing ignorant" summons up rwmofo, to serve as an object example.
Kind of like "Beetlejuice", only without the dark humor...
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jaunte Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:19:21pm |
re: #43 EmmmieG
How come Dutch windmills are picturesque, and ours are atrocious?
[Link: www.bright.nl...]
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jaunte Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:20:07pm |
re: #45 albusteve
I don't know anything about the maintenance schedules for those things, but I imagine they have to be still sometimes.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:20:24pm |
what effect is the Solyndra scam having?...these problems will hound BO and worse, further hinder green tech investment...just what is the BO admin up to?...it has a repercussion
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Interesting Times Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:20:48pm |
re: #42 rwmofo
Speaking of flat-earth, low-information individuals, fossil fuel industries get far, far, far more tax dollars than renewable energy:
Fossil-fuel consumers worldwide received about six times more government subsidies than were given to the renewable-energy industry, according to the chief adviser to oil-importing nations.
...
While fossil fuels meet about 80 percent of world energy demand, its subsidies are “creating market distortions that encourage wasteful consumption,” the agency said. “The costs of subsidies to fossil fuels generally outweigh the benefits.”
But you love, love, love it when your tax dollars go to transnational oil companies, don't you? They could kick you right in the butt and snatch your wallet from your pocket, and your response would be, "Thank you, sir, may I have another?" :)
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blueraven Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:20:53pm |
re: #42 rwmofo
One of the red flags I noticed with the sourcing of "Think Progress" is that they use Media Matters. That explains the deceptive editing. But here's a real knee-slapper:
"Fox also perpetuates the false narrative that the Obama administration has stifled domestic oil production."
Ummm, are we drilling in ANWR now? Maybe along our coast lines where we know there are billions of gallons of untapped oil? Yeah, right. The angry left will never run out of flat-earth, low-information individuals to push their cause.
Nobody is forcing you to keep coming here. If you dont like the sources, go back to freeperville or fox nation. You would feel more at home I'm sure.
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:21:13pm |
OT and repost, cause I'm so behind on threads.
The House just voted for the conceal weapon state to state law.
Yippee MORE JOBS!
For those dastardly public sector employees. The police, the DEA etc.
Pitiful.
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jaunte Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:21:35pm |
re: #42 rwmofo
ANWR is not a huge reserve; it's not really an energy policy to say 'let's drill ANWR'.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:21:45pm |
re: #48 jaunte
I don't know anything about the maintenance schedules for those things, but I imagine they have to be still sometimes.
I have no clue
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palomino Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:23:02pm |
re: #53 jaunte
ANWR is not a huge reserve; it's not really an energy policy to say 'let's drill ANWR'.
No, but it makes the simpleminded mofos of the world feel good. Remember how sexually aroused they got just screaming, "Drill baby drill!"
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Charles Johnson Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:23:14pm |
re: #22 rwmofo
Jeez, you guys are turning on Killgore? Why does this surprise me? He seems like a reasonable guy. Oh, yeah. Makes sense now.
The definition of the "concern troll," if anyone ever asks.
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Interesting Times Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:23:44pm |
re: #51 blueraven
Nobody is forcing you to keep coming here.
He thinks his derp-filled, weapons-grade-stupidity comments are a great accomplishment. Much the way an emotionally underdeveloped three-year-old would take great pride in leaving an enormous turd on the living room floor.
In other words, typical member of the GOP base :)
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:25:03pm |
re: #53 jaunte
ANWR is not a huge reserve; it's not really an energy policy to say 'let's drill ANWR'.
Ford is pushing their new 650hp super Mustang...if there is an energy policy in this country, they don't seem to give a shit...we need a comprehensive, air tight, partisan proof energy gig and congress denies the citizens...it's been decades now
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engineer cat Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:25:11pm |
Keith Richards .. a .. hippie?
in the interest of communication between the generations, let me clarify:
what "hippie" meant in 1968 was anybody with long hair, wearing blue jeans, listening to rock music, smoking dope, sleeping together without benefit of marriage or signing into a motel as "mr & mrs 'smith'"
and thinking your parent's culture was really "plastic" (fake, inauthentic, bland - worst possible insult. see 'the graduate')
what "hippie" seems to mean in 2011 would be what we oldsters would have called "hippie-dippy", e.g. purifying your crystals in the moonlight, thanking the carrot for sacrificing itself for your meal, etc
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:25:55pm |
re: #53 jaunte
ANWR is not a huge reserve; it's not really an energy policy to say 'let's drill ANWR'.
It's nothing but a RW talking point. Gah, and they still use it after being debunked. Cause that's all they've got.
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wrenchwench Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:26:09pm |
re: #22 rwmofo
Jeez, you guys are turning on Killgore? Why does this surprise me? He seems like a reasonable guy. Oh, yeah. Makes sense now.
I was going to say at least Killgore hangs around and discusses stuff, and I was going to ask if you thought Killgore was so reasonable when he was pointing at the teabaggers, but I went and looked at your old comments, and I was surprised. You used to hang around and discuss stuff too.
When and why did you turn into such a turd-dropping troll?
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:26:31pm |
re: #43 EmmmieG
How come Dutch windmills are picturesque, and ours are atrocious?
Need more small apple-cheeked children clogging in wooden shoes beneath them.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:26:49pm |
I'm really trying to resist buying a Kindle Fire. But dang, that's a nice gadget.
Maybe a Christmas present to myself. Yes, I'm in gadget lust.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:27:57pm |
re: #62 SanFranciscoZionist
Need more small apple-cheeked children clogging in wooden shoes beneath them.
Also, tulips.
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:28:04pm |
re: #58 albusteve
Ford is pushing their new 650hp super Mustang...if there is an energy policy in this country, they don't seem to give a shit...we need a comprehensive, air tight, partisan proof energy gig and congress denies the citizens...it's been decades now
OK, I saw a cherry Ford Cobra today on the freeway coming home. Thought about taking a photo for you. Silvery blue with some amazing rims. Traffic too radical to take the risk. Just trust me, you would have loved it.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:31:13pm |
News on the home front: just licensed my share of a song I helped write with the George Duke Band, "Reach For It," for use in Grand Theft Auto 5. So I'm doing my part to contribute to the dissolution of America's morals and the corruption of our youth.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:31:27pm |
re: #65 Stanley Sea
OK, I saw a cherry Ford Cobra today on the freeway coming home. Thought about taking a photo for you. Silvery blue with some amazing rims. Traffic to radical to take the risk. Just trust me, you would have loved it.
one of the hottest cars ever made in the USA...real Shelby's sell for millions...fakes go into the multiple 100k's...a bad ass little car
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:32:22pm |
re: #66 Charles
News on the home front: just licensed my share of a song I helped write with the George Duke Band, "Reach For It," for use in Grand Theft Auto 5. So I'm doing my part to contribute to the dissolution of America's morals and the corruption of our youth.
yaaay!
$$$ talks
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freetoken Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:33:00pm |
re: #63 Charles
I've resisted buying an iPad so far... I think I can wait until the next generation.
For me the ideal device would allow me to read books and PDFs, but also watch the occasional video or browse websites.
I'm still put off by the weight of the things - try holding one overhead for an hour while laying down - still more awkward than a book.
The new Kindles are slick, but still come across to me as a bit too limited for me.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:34:04pm |
re: #66 Charles
News on the home front: just licensed my share of a song I helped write with the George Duke Band, "Reach For It," for use in Grand Theft Auto 5. So I'm doing my part to contribute to the dissolution of America's morals and the corruption of our youth.
George Duke "Reach For It"
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freetoken Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:34:25pm |
re: #53 jaunte
ANWR is not a huge reserve; it's not really an energy policy to say 'let's drill ANWR'.
It's become nothing but a rallying cry for the right wing.
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engineer cat Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:34:35pm |
re: #17 rwmofo
"Fox is promoting the interests of the fossil fuel industries..." cuz our tree-hugging friends haven't delivered their wind-powered tractor-trailer rigs which transport food to the grocery stores yet. So let's raise taxes!
i'm working on a straw man right winger to pit against straw man left wingers like the above in a Network Battle Of The Political Strawmen And Unintentional Bonfire Of Imaginary Opponents
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:34:49pm |
re: #67 albusteve
one of the hottest cars ever made in the USA...real Shelby's sell for millions...fakes go into the multiple 100k's...a bad ass little car
I was very close for awhile. It was the real deal I think. La Jolla area. Lots of the 1% here!
Hey, at least I drive a Ford! I'm his distant cousin he wants to ignore!
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:35:47pm |
we have had decades of diffusion...no comprehensive energy plan, no comprehensive immigration plan...Americans have been played like a cheap fiddle...votes and re-election rule DC politics...short term bandits that rob us of our heritage...we are wimps, thanks to the system
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engineer cat Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:37:37pm |
re: #42 rwmofo
One of the red flags I noticed with the sourcing of "Think Progress" is that they use Media Matters. That explains the deceptive editing. But here's a real knee-slapper:
"Fox also perpetuates the false narrative that the Obama administration has stifled domestic oil production."
Ummm, are we drilling in ANWR now? Maybe along our coast lines where we know there are billions of gallons of untapped oil? Yeah, right. The angry left will never run out of flat-earth, low-information individuals to push their cause.
apparently all the other places in and around the united states where oil is drilled for and permits are issued don't exist
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:38:43pm |
re: #73 Stanley Sea
I was very close for awhile. It was the real deal I think. La Jolla area. Lots of the 1% here!
Hey, at least I drive a Ford! I'm his distant cousin he wants to ignore!
what you drive is your business, I don't judge...my primary car is an Impala, replacing my Jetta
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wrenchwench Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:39:02pm |
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freetoken Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:39:36pm |
re: #75 engineer dog
apparently all the other places in and around the united states where oil is drilled for and permits are issued don't exist
Shhhh... don't tell anyone... but the number of rigs working in the US have been steadily increasing for a while now...
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:39:40pm |
Climate scientists are totally in it for the money!
Oh yeah, sweet climate science 50%ers.
//
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TedStriker Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:39:52pm |
re: #61 wrenchwench
I was going to say at least Killgore hangs around and discusses stuff, and I was going to ask if you thought Killgore was so reasonable when he was pointing at the teabaggers, but I went and looked at your old comments, and I was surprised. You used to hang around and discuss stuff too.
When and why did you turn into such a turd-dropping troll?
I'd venture to say when their ODS finally overtook their common sense.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:40:37pm |
some guy in ABQ owns a 67 427 Cobra...an original and I sat in it...worth 2mil
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:40:59pm |
re: #76 albusteve
what you drive is your business, I don't judge...my primary car is an Impala, replacing my Jetta
I'm happy to have a paid for car at this point. $500/mo new bill is going to suck.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:41:58pm |
Median annual wages of environmental scientists and specialists were $59,750 in May 2008. The middle 50 percent earned between $45,340 and $78,980. The lowest 10 percent earned less than $36,310, and the highest 10 percent earned more than $102,610.According to the National Association of Colleges and Employers, beginning salary offers in July 2009 for graduates with bachelor's degrees in an environmental science averaged $39,160 a year.
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jaunte Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:42:17pm |
The Hirsch Report
the commonly referred to name for the report Peaking of World Oil Production: Impacts, Mitigation, and Risk Management
Three scenarios
- Waiting until world oil production peaks before taking crash program action leaves the world with a significant liquid fuel deficit for more than two decades.- Initiating a mitigation crash program 10 years before world oil peaking helps considerably but still leaves a liquid fuels shortfall roughly a decade after the time that oil would have peaked.
- Initiating a mitigation crash program 20 years before peaking appears to offer the possibility of avoiding a world liquid fuels shortfall for the forecast period.
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:42:29pm |
re: #81 albusteve
some guy in ABQ owns a 67 427 Cobra...an original and I sat in it...worth 2mil
Wow. I wonder if I almost sideswiped that. (kidding, but with this traffic, any asshole could ruin you)
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:42:29pm |
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:43:01pm |
re: #82 Stanley Sea
I'm happy to have a paid for car at this point. $500/mo new bill is going to suck.
my BinL just bought a new Chevy pickup....$60k...he's rich but his payment is like $900 a month...that's a lot of tacos my friend
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:43:28pm |
re: #77 wrenchwench
I love that bass player. Massive talent.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:43:53pm |
Another pathetic Breitbart blogger fail: » Breaking: Facebook Posting Reports Murder at #OccupySavannah - Big Government
UPDATE (11/16 8:42 am EST): Savannah police have now clarified this morning to Big Government via telephone that the shooting of Occupy Savannah activist Jonathan Brazell is being investigated as an ordinary robbery, due partly to the fact that it occurred at a significant distance from the protest site itself.
Well, whaddayaknow.
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wrenchwench Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:44:08pm |
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freetoken Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:44:33pm |
re: #84 jaunte
"Peak oil" - complex topic. Most people get hung up on the word "oil". Many don't realize that accounting agencies (and plenty of talking heads) use the word "oil" for just about any liquid that will burn with oxygen. Very misleading.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:44:35pm |
re: #85 Stanley Sea
Wow. I wonder if I almost sideswiped that. (kidding, but with this traffic, any asshole could ruin you)
I think wiping out a Cobra is worth 3 eternities in Hell...you don't deserve that
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engineer cat Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:45:14pm |
re: #42 rwmofo
Maybe along our coast lines where we know there are billions of gallons of untapped oil?
i bet with a little innertubes googling somebody could come up with a nice map of untapped oil reserves on american territory with estimated yields; also, new drilling permits the past x number of years, also new drilling permits over the past 40 years that have gone unused
maybe you could do that for us and show us all the places with oil that permits have been turned down for, with estimates
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:45:23pm |
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Charles Johnson Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:45:39pm |
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Charles Johnson Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:46:52pm |
re: #94 Killgore Trout
Love the white suit. That's a look that could come back.
They made me wear it.
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wrenchwench Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:47:47pm |
re: #94 Killgore Trout
Love the white suit. That's a look that could come back.
I could never wear white, but I could wear bell bottoms again.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:48:04pm |
re: #89 Charles
Another pathetic Breitbart blogger fail: » Breaking: Facebook Posting Reports Murder at #OccupySavannah - Big Government
Well, whaddayaknow.
////Well there goes my support for the Rapey Stabby Shooty OWS movement...
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:48:17pm |
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:48:29pm |
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ProGunLiberal Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:51:10pm |
re: #66 Charles
Your doing no worse than that asshat Reagan did.
In fact you are doing better than him in moral contribution.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:51:39pm |
re: #76 albusteve
what you drive is your business, I don't judge...my primary car is an Impala, replacing my Jetta
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:53:01pm |
I jest...Midnight Special was huge back in the day...many bands fed the beast and went up to perform their best stuff...not the Fillmore but what the hell...millions of people watched that show
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:53:51pm |
re: #87 albusteve
my BinL just bought a new Chevy pickup...$60k...he's rich but his payment is like $900 a month...that's a lot of tacos my friend
Ridiculous.
My friend sells BMW's. The lease payments on those are embarrassing. Although those folks somehow just write it off I guess.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:55:32pm |
re: #102 WindUpBird
nice looking car...mine is an 02 LS exactly like this...sweet car, and very fast on the high end...
[Link: static.cargurus.com...]
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:55:43pm |
re: #78 freetoken
Shhh... don't tell anyone... but the number of rigs working in the US have been steadily increasing for a while now...
They want ANWR. I swear, they don't want it for the oil, they just want to rip it up because the tree-huggers said not to.
I think domestic production is an important thing, but it can't happen in a void, we can't pretend that there's endless reserves, or that the environmental impact doesn't matter, and we can't pretend that somehow the whole thing would be so easy to solve if the liberals would just be rational.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:55:57pm |
re: #104 Stanley Sea
Ridiculous.
My friend sells BMW's. The lease payments on those are embarrassing. Although those folks somehow just write it off I guess.
And they're big spongy luxo cars now! They're not lean driver's cars anymore :(
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:56:29pm |
re: #104 Stanley Sea
Ridiculous.
My friend sells BMW's. The lease payments on those are embarrassing. Although those folks somehow just write it off I guess.
people are simply nuts about cars...nuts
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:57:07pm |
re: #105 albusteve
I am familiar with those, we had one as a work car when I worked in health care, it had some guts, I got a speeding ticket on ours :D
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:57:12pm |
re: #103 albusteve
I jest...Midnight Special was huge back in the day...many bands fed the beast and went up to perform their best stuff...not the Fillmore but what the hell...millions of people watched that show
For fun watch the Midnight Special on you tube. It was totally live, and those bands kicked ass. LIVE. No bs. I watched for one night, all night. One of the best, really, was Heart. Proved you were good if you could pull that live on TV shit OFF.
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A Man for all Seasons Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:57:41pm |
re: #95 Charles
I believe that was "Midnight Special."
Years ago..I saw George Duke at the Greek Theater in Berkeley..IIRC
Jon Schofield on Guitar, Alfonso Johnson on Bass and Billy Cobham on Drums..
It was awesome.. I really like the work George did with Zappa...
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Interesting Times Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:58:00pm |
re: #106 SanFranciscoZionist
They want ANWR. I swear, they don't want it for the oil, they just want to rip it up because the tree-huggers said not to.
I'm going to tell them the tree-huggers also said not to google-image-search tubgirl and goatse while at work.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:58:50pm |
re: #107 WindUpBird
And they're big spongy luxo cars now! They're not lean driver's cars anymore :(
right...there is conflict between drivers and gas savers at the high end...obviously big performance is winning that internal quarrel
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:59:48pm |
re: #106 SanFranciscoZionist
They want ANWR. I swear, they don't want it for the oil, they just want to rip it up because the tree-huggers said not to.
I think domestic production is an important thing, but it can't happen in a void, we can't pretend that there's endless reserves, or that the environmental impact doesn't matter, and we can't pretend that somehow the whole thing would be so easy to solve if the liberals would just be rational.
QFT. And their kids? Usually the kids are very environmental/animal zealots. Wonder how that goes.
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Wozza Matter? Wed, Nov 16, 2011 5:59:49pm |
re: #106 SanFranciscoZionist
Just remind them how long it'll take and how much extra $$$ to get the refinery capacity online to deal with that oil.
That is something about which they were in denial.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:00:19pm |
re: #109 WindUpBird
I am familiar with those, we had one as a work car when I worked in health care, it had some guts, I got a speeding ticket on ours :D
I love speeding tickets...doing something right always posses people off
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HappyWarrior Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:00:35pm |
re: #106 SanFranciscoZionist
They want ANWR. I swear, they don't want it for the oil, they just want to rip it up because the tree-huggers said not to.
I think domestic production is an important thing, but it can't happen in a void, we can't pretend that there's endless reserves, or that the environmental impact doesn't matter, and we can't pretend that somehow the whole thing would be so easy to solve if the liberals would just be rational.
It seems like such a short sighted plan but these are people who believe drill baby drill to be a policy filled of substance.
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:00:36pm |
re: #109 WindUpBird
I am familiar with those, we had one as a work car when I worked in health care, it had some guts, I got a speeding ticket on ours :D
lol
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:01:30pm |
re: #111 HoosierHoops
Years ago..I saw George Duke at the Greek Theater in Berkeley..IIRC
Jon Schofield on Guitar, Alfonso Johnson on Bass and Billy Cobham on Drums..
It was awesome.. I really like the work George did with Zappa...
Billy Cobham was worth the price alone...a giant
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:01:49pm |
re: #113 albusteve
right...there is conflict between drivers and gas savers at the high end...obviously big performance is winning that internal quarrel
My solution is to go lighter. Lots of fun to be had in a beat up 90's Miata with RWD that weighs nothing :D A friend of mine in the bay who has my taste in cars and more money, he'd collect beater miatas and turbocharge them. He lives in a house-of-geeks and makes crazy money as a tech guy, lives like a hippie, has like 6 cars in various states of disassembly
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:02:34pm |
re: #116 albusteve
I love speeding tickets...doing something right always posses people off
I always get them when I'm not having fun, though :( Just tooling along at 20 over *_*
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freetoken Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:02:38pm |
re: #119 jaunte
Certainly there are plenty of other tunnels down there.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:02:58pm |
re: #121 WindUpBird
My solution is to go lighter. Lots of fun to be had in a beat up 90's Miata with RWD that weighs nothing :D A friend of mine in the bay who has my taste in cars and more money, he'd collect beater miatas and turbocharge them. He lives in a house-of-geeks and makes crazy money as a tech guy, lives like a hippie, has like 6 cars in various states of disassembly
jesus...a 500hp Miata
give me a minute here
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:03:35pm |
re: #113 albusteve
right...there is conflict between drivers and gas savers at the high end...obviously big performance is winning that internal quarrel
BMW coming out with their E car. Electric. The first in line (its limited) are the Mini Cooper E car people. Apparently their lease is up in time for this new release. And they are fanatics. Any leftovers go to the public. 499/mo lease for the new. Interesting & I know too much about it.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:04:03pm |
re: #125 albusteve
jesus...a 500hp Miata
give me a minute here
ahgahahahahaha
his weren't that fast! But they were fast enough, 180 hp in a thing that weighs like 2000 lbs is a lot *_*
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:04:30pm |
re: #126 Stanley Sea
BMW coming out with their E car. Electric. The first in line (its limited) are the Mini Cooper E car people. Apparently their lease is up in time for this new release. And they are fanatics. Any leftovers go to the public. 499/mo lease for the new. Interesting & I know too much about it.
My toyota I drove to art school cost less than that
like the whole car, was $400
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:05:15pm |
re: #123 WindUpBird
I always get them when I'm not having fun, though :( Just tooling along at 20 over *_*
when you buckle up and turn they key...it's fun
I love driving...Model A's, muscle cars, rice burners...I just dig it
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:06:08pm |
re: #126 Stanley Sea
BMW coming out with their E car. Electric. The first in line (its limited) are the Mini Cooper E car people. Apparently their lease is up in time for this new release. And they are fanatics. Any leftovers go to the public. 499/mo lease for the new. Interesting & I know too much about it.
If I'm going to drive a fuel efficient car, it will be an 80's CRX HF. Screw the Prius!
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Beltboy Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:06:21pm |
But drill baby drill HAS substance until they can make a car and a house that can run on wind and solar AND make that car and house affordable!
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Interesting Times Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:06:30pm |
re: #131 Stanley Sea
Customers are pissed in the US. Legalize it.
Won't you think of the private prison lobby? The poor, poor private prison lobby?
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freetoken Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:06:39pm |
Just a reminder that the US doesn't have a monopoly on the supply of oil barons and their political puppets:
Canadian MP says oil sands opponents "treacherous"
In a sign of the strain the Canadian government is feeling over development of the tar sands, Environment Minister Peter Kent said on Wednesday that opposition legislators who campaigned in Washington against the idea were treacherous.
The right-of-center Conservative government was taken aback last week when the U.S. administration delayed approval of TransCanada Corp's proposed Keystone XL pipeline designed to carry crude from the vast Alberta oil sands to refineries in Texas.
The Conservatives strongly back the pipeline. [...]
Much to Kent's anger, two members of Parliament from the opposition New Democrats went to Washington this week to argue the pipeline should not go ahead until Canada has come up with a better plan to combat climate change.
"One of the opposition parties has taken the treacherous course of leaving the domestic debate and heading abroad to attack a legitimate Canadian resource which is being responsibly developed and regulated," Kent told reporters.
Neither the chief spokesman for Prime Minister Stephen Harper nor a spokeswoman for Kent responded to requests for comment.
In late September, two senior government officials said a few hundred people who protested peacefully in Ottawa against the pipeline were extremists. Alberta is one of the Conservatives' main power bases.
Speaking in the House of Commons on Wednesday, Natural Resources Minister Joe Oliver said Keystone XL would "generate hundreds of thousands of jobs, trillions of dollars in economic activity and revenue".
Alberta is the Texas of Canada.
As for the claim of "hundreds of thousands of jobs" - well, that one is at least a 1.5Bachmann on the scale of believability.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:06:51pm |
re: #126 Stanley Sea
BMW coming out with their E car. Electric. The first in line (its limited) are the Mini Cooper E car people. Apparently their lease is up in time for this new release. And they are fanatics. Any leftovers go to the public. 499/mo lease for the new. Interesting & I know too much about it.
my gf has a super charged Mini...it should come with a class on how not to wreck it
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jhrhv Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:07:08pm |
Before the picture loaded I saw the words "Fox News’s Appalling" & "Ignorance" which told me I was soon going to be seeing Bill O's picture.
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freetoken Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:07:18pm |
And yes, Alberta has quite a share of creationists.
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jaunte Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:07:41pm |
re: #131 Stanley Sea
Some pols might lose their 'pretend to do something about this' votes.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:08:09pm |
re: #128 WindUpBird
ahgahahahahaha
his weren't that fast! But they were fast enough, 180 hp in a thing that weighs like 2000 lbs is a lot *_*
I guess...I'm adjusting my eyeballs here...
I can do it
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:08:23pm |
re: #129 WindUpBird
My toyota I drove to art school cost less than that
like the whole car, was $400
Dude, people pay willingly, happily, I've got my beemer 1400/mo lease payments these days.
Absolutely crazy.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:09:10pm |
re: #130 albusteve
when you buckle up and turn they key...it's fun
I love driving...Model A's, muscle cars, rice burners...I just dig it
I have not had the pleasure of the model A, just the occasional Trans Am and Integra :D
I'm pissed at my father for selling his old creaky bentley (something from the 40's or 50's I can't remember, but it looked sorta like this) before I wa sold enough to drive it. It would overheat at stoplights because it had a chrysler V8 put in it that never got enough air
oh well :D
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makeitstop Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:09:34pm |
re: #136 albusteve
my gf has a super charged Mini...it should come with a class on how not to wreck it
When I was a kid, a wrench in my neighborhood dropped a 327 into a Sunbeam Alpine. Mechanized Death.
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Amory Blaine Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:11:20pm |
My wife always drives our nice car and I get the leftovers.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:11:47pm |
re: #141 Stanley Sea
Dude, people pay willingly, happily, I've got my beemer 1400/mo lease payments these days.
Absolutely crazy.
dirtbag artists don't get to have nice things!
And besides I'm a VW man, we're the snot nosed punks giving the BMW drivers the finger ^_^
still going, about 100K miles, whee
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freetoken Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:11:58pm |
That nasty EPA is being tyrannical again:
U.S. formally proposes MY2017-2025 CAFE standards
Does your car get 54.5 miles a gallon? That's what EPA wants for 2025.
The Obama administration on Wednesday formally unveiled a "historic" plan that would, if implemented, sharply improve US auto and light-truck mileage standards by 2025 – chopping America's greenhouse-gas emissions, and heavy reliance on oil, as well as fuel costs for drivers.
The new proposal pushes auto-mileage standards to 54.5 miles per gallon in the next decade. It comes on the heels of a finalized first step in the same direction, announced in April. That earlier step requires automakers to build an auto fleet averaging 35.5 miles per gallon by 2015.
[...]
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Charles Johnson Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:12:33pm |
re: #133 Beltboy
But drill baby drill HAS substance until they can make a car and a house that can run on wind and solar AND make that car and house affordable!
Word salad award of the day.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:13:00pm |
re: #142 WindUpBird
I have not had the pleasure of the model A, just the occasional Trans Am and Integra :D
I'm pissed at my father for selling his old creaky bentley (something from the 40's or 50's I can't remember, but it looked sorta like this) before I wa sold enough to drive it. It would overheat at stoplights because it had a chrysler V8 put in it that never got enough air
oh well :D
I have been blessed wit connections...just up the road from me...
[Link: gilmorecarmuseum.org...]
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:14:13pm |
My stepdad had a 280Z he dropped a (hmm, correct?) Chevy 350 engine into. Called it and got the metal for the rear, a 350Z.
Was that crazy? I was an embarrassed teenager at anything my parents did, however possibly cool.
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A Man for all Seasons Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:14:44pm |
re: #120 albusteve
Billy Cobham was worth the price alone...a giant
The greatest drummer in the history of the world!
And nothing..or nobody will ever change my mind...
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:14:54pm |
re: #151 Stanley Sea
My stepdad had a 280Z he dropped a (hmm, correct?) Chevy 350 engine into. Called it and got the metal for the rear, a 350Z.
Was that crazy? I was an embarrassed teenager at anything my parents did, however possibly cool.
it's FUCKING AWESOME!
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:14:56pm |
re: #133 Beltboy
But drill baby drill HAS substance until they can make a car and a house that can run on wind and solar AND make that car and house affordable!
There's something between 'denial combined with jingoism' and 'affordable solar everything'. There kind of has to be.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:15:39pm |
That's a candidate for an LGF Random Quote©.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:15:41pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:15:59pm |
re: #141 Stanley Sea
Dude, people pay willingly, happily, I've got my beemer 1400/mo lease payments these days.
You're kidding, right?
You should pay more taxes.
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jaunte Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:16:34pm |
re: #154 SanFranciscoZionist
Planning, having options, looking ahead?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:16:47pm |
re: #157 Stanley Sea
ok, he was and is cool. phew.
My dad loves cars, had many weirdass cars when I was a kid, but he had already gotten past his way-too-fast-death-rocket phase as a 30-something (AMX that almost killed him)
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:16:49pm |
re: #142 WindUpBird
I have not had the pleasure of the model A, just the occasional Trans Am and Integra :D
I'm pissed at my father for selling his old creaky bentley (something from the 40's or 50's I can't remember, but it looked sorta like this) before I wa sold enough to drive it. It would overheat at stoplights because it had a chrysler V8 put in it that never got enough air
oh well :D
car lovers regret is universal...you win some, you lose some...I had a 69 Malibu SS 396/375hp...long after it was sold I learned it was worth scores of thousands...one of about 600 made
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freetoken Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:16:53pm |
Newt's running from his past (again):
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makeitstop Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:17:27pm |
re: #147 WindUpBird
oh god :D
Yeah. He used to smoke the tires up and down the street, the shock was he didn't kill himself or anyone else.
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Varek Raith Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:17:31pm |
re: #133 Beltboy
But drill baby drill HAS substance until they can make a car and a house that can run on wind and solar AND make that car and house affordable!
But why is the rum gone?
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:17:35pm |
re: #158 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You're kidding, right?
You should pay more taxes.
No I'm not kidding. Every time I hear about a car sale I ask how much monthly. It's disgraceful, but somehow they do it.
Oh So Cal, land of the wealthy I guess? gah
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:17:41pm |
re: #158 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You're kidding, right?
You should pay more taxes.
she's saying she doens't have 1400 lease payments ;-)
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makeitstop Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:18:07pm |
re: #152 HoosierHoops
The greatest drummer in the history of the world!
And nothing..or nobody will ever change my mind...
Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich say hi. :)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:18:48pm |
re: #161 albusteve
car lovers regret is universal...you win some, you lose some...I had a 69 Malibu SS 396/375hp...long after it was sold I learned it was worth scores of thousands...one of about 600 made
guhhh
I know my car isn't valuable, I can sell it with no regrets, there's like 6 in my neighborhood that are identical :D
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:19:26pm |
re: #167 makeitstop
Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich say hi. :)
Brann Dailor hasn't even begun to show us what he's capable of
HASN'T EVEN BEGUN
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:19:57pm |
re: #160 WindUpBird
My dad loved cars, but he had already gotten past is way-too-fast-death-rocket phase as a 30-something (AMX that almost killed him)
I knew before I opened it...that car was pretty fast, and good looking too
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:20:55pm |
re: #166 WindUpBird
she's saying she doens't have 1400 lease payments ;-)
Oh! FBV, I have a paid for ford focus, 135K, drive 60 mi every day. I'm praying to the car god and to my oil change & tune up that it lasts a while longer. Mo payments for another vehicle is going to hurt.
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A Man for all Seasons Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:20:55pm |
re: #167 makeitstop
Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich say hi. :)
:)
Music is like wine..We can all disagree on taste and all be right at the same time..
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makeitstop Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:21:15pm |
re: #169 WindUpBird
Brann Dailor hasn't even begun to show us what he's capable of
HASN'T EVEN BEGUN
There's a show coming up at a new venue about 5 miles from my house - Mastodon/Dillinger Escape Plan. Might go to that one.
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Amory Blaine Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:21:22pm |
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:21:45pm |
re: #168 WindUpBird
guhhh
I know my car isn't valuable, I can sell it with no regrets, there's like 6 in my neighborhood that are identical :D
time is the great equalizer...what you owned then don't really count
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Bubblehead II Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:21:48pm |
Night Lizards. May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you. But I personally think we are all screwed. From 1968.
Some things never change. Sigh.
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TedStriker Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:21:54pm |
re: #143 makeitstop
When I was a kid, a wrench in my neighborhood dropped a 327 into a Sunbeam Alpine. Mechanized Death.
Wasn't that Maxwell Smart's car?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:22:29pm |
re: #170 albusteve
I knew before I opened it...that car was pretty fast, and good looking too
So good looking *_@ AMCs are hideous, except that one! also I kinda like the eagle wagon but I know it's ugly
I'm not kidding, it really did almost kill him, he was thrown clear of it in an insane accident, not wearing his seatbelt, somehow survived
I tell him it's the exact power-to-weight-ratio of a new Subaru STI and he says "don't do what I did! Intensive care is no fun!"
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makeitstop Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:22:31pm |
re: #172 HoosierHoops
:)
Music is like wine..We can all disagree on taste and all be right at the same time..
I hear ya.
As for contemporary drummers, I always like Bill Bruford a lot. He was great in Yes, and just off the charts with King Crimson.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:22:36pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:23:30pm |
re: #175 albusteve
time is the great equalizer...what you owned then don't really count
that's true!
Dammit, I want to sell it, but I also don't
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:24:17pm |
re: #179 makeitstop
I hear ya.
As for contemporary drummers, I always like Bill Bruford a lot. He was great in Yes, and just off the charts with King Crimson.
that ABWH album has some nutso drums on it
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makeitstop Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:24:23pm |
re: #177 talon_262
Wasn't that Maxwell Smart's car?
Sure was. Imagine that car with no hood and a big hunk of a GMC powerplant sticking out of it.
The guy had to modify an Olds drive train because the Alpine rear lasted about 2 minutes after he dropped the engine into it. Good times.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:24:26pm |
re: #178 WindUpBird
So good looking *_@ AMCs are hideous, except that one! also I kinda like the eagle wagon but I know it's ugly
I'm not kidding, it really did almost kill him, he was thrown clear of it in an insane accident, not wearing his seatbelt, somehow survived
I tell him it's the exact power-to-weight-ratio of a new Subaru STI and he says "don't do what I did! Intensive care is no fun!"
well, he's right about intensive care...but nothing ventured, nothing gained...you have to go for it...your dad sounds like a pretty cool guy
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:24:55pm |
re: #171 Stanley Sea
Oh! FBV, I have a paid for ford focus, 135K, drive 60 mi every day. I'm praying to the car god and to my oil change & tune up that it lasts a while longer. Mo payments for another vehicle is going to hurt.
Focus hatch?
It's all about the focus hatch, IMO, great looking car :D
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:26:00pm |
re: #184 albusteve
well, he's right about intensive care...but nothing ventured, nothing gained...you have to go for it...your dad sounds like a pretty cool guy
He's a liberal-ish injury lawyer who's basically a geek like me, but pre computers-and-internet-and-such. Reads a lot, knows a lot, works a lot!
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:26:33pm |
re: #185 WindUpBird
Focus hatch?
It's all about the focus hatch, IMO, great looking car :D
Nah, boring white 4 door. I love it actually. Stick shift/z-tech engine. quick start which is great.
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TedStriker Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:26:43pm |
re: #160 WindUpBird
My dad loves cars, had many weirdass cars when I was a kid, but he had already gotten past his way-too-fast-death-rocket phase as a 30-something (AMX that almost killed him)
The AMX: One of the few things American Motors did right...
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:27:41pm |
re: #187 Stanley Sea
Nah, boring white 4 door. I love it actually. Stick shift/z-tech engine. quick start which is great.
stick shift and ztec = win
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freetoken Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:28:01pm |
Just what the world needs...
T-Rex Erected on West Highway 2 in Broken Bow
Drivers along Highway 2 in Broken Bow will see a new sight as of today. A Steel T-Rex that is 13 1/2 feet tall, 20 feet long and weighing approximately 1600 to 1700 pounds has been erected at the site of The Bone Yard Creation Museum. Sargent Pipe Company built the T-Rex using a small Balsa Wood Dinosaur as an example. The museum which is expected to open in April of May of 2012 is the brainchild of Steve Sommer. Sommer says he has always wanted to have a place that explains creationism as opposed to evolution. The plan is to have fossils exhibited to show the difference in the two belief systems. Sommer also expects have workshops and seminars in the museum. The T-Rex can be seen across the street from V-Bar Trailers on Highway 2.
... another creationism museum.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:28:17pm |
of you don't know what you're doing, speed can blow you up in a NY second...if you do know what you're doing, it's a rush and 145 is just a taste...New Mexico is perfect for high speed convo's with your god
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TedStriker Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:28:30pm |
re: #183 makeitstop
Sure was. Imagine that car with no hood and a big hunk of a GMC powerplant sticking out of it.
The guy had to modify an Olds drive train because the Alpine rear lasted about 2 minutes after he dropped the engine into it. Good times.
Ol' Max may have gotten more respect if he were driving your friend's Alpine ;-P
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:29:35pm |
re: #187 Stanley Sea
Nah, boring white 4 door. I love it actually. Stick shift/z-tech engine. quick start which is great.
i ALLLLMOST bought a Focus SVT instead of my GTI, it was lighter and arguably more fun, but I am just such a dork for VWs :D
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Cheechako Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:30:30pm |
re: #175 albusteve
time is the great equalizer...what you owned then don't really count
Know exactly what you mean. Went from a 57 Chevy Bel Air convertible to 66 GTO to a 72 Ford Country Squire station wagon. Guess which one I was driving when the kids started to arrive?
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:30:49pm |
Okay, how do I know gold is getting ready to jump the shark? There's an ad above telling me I can finance my investment and purchase 4x as much. That's right, apparently people are actually stupid enough to buy gold and silver on finance, and the predatory lenders think this is a great idea.
Also, the price of gold is now higher than platinum, that's just fucked up.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:31:38pm |
re: #194 Cheechako
Know exactly what you mean. Went from a 57 Chevy Bel Air convertible to 66 GTO to a 72 Ford Country Squire station wagon. Guess which one I was driving when the kids started to arrive?
These days, "station wagon" can also mean "totally awesome"
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Amory Blaine Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:31:53pm |
re: #195 goddamnedfrank
The free market is all knowing.
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TedStriker Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:31:58pm |
re: #190 freetoken
Just what the world needs...
T-Rex Erected on West Highway 2 in Broken Bow
... another creationism museum.
Yeah, but where's the Klingon?
/Star Trek: Enterprise pilot episode
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jaunte Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:32:48pm |
Austin area rustling news:
Suspect accused of stealing Lakeway man’s goat, barbecuing it
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:33:09pm |
re: #199 jaunte
How do you barbecue a muscle car?
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:33:25pm |
I go on a high speed run across the NM mesas...cool down and shut it off...you stand there in the middle of nowhere listening to the engine pop, wheez and detox while it cools off...have a beer, maybe a bowl...look over that bad boy shining in the bright sun...nobody for miles...this is a buzz
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:33:38pm |
re: #122 Amory Blaine
We discussed some of the videos for that earlier. It's hard to tell what exactly happened but black block anarchists were antagonizing the cops. From the videos I've seen she can't be spotted but it looks like she took it right in the face. Video will turn up eventually.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:34:39pm |
re: #194 Cheechako
Know exactly what you mean. Went from a 57 Chevy Bel Air convertible to 66 GTO to a 72 Ford Country Squire station wagon. Guess which one I was driving when the kids started to arrive?
not sure but that GTO is very interesting...a beautiful car
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:35:17pm |
re: #188 talon_262
The AMX: One of the few things American Motors did right...
Weren't they the ones with the Pacer? Lol we did the phonebooth thing and crammed a ton of girls into one of those.
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Cheechako Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:35:29pm |
re: #196 WindUpBird
These days, "station wagon" can also mean "totally awesome"
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Amory Blaine Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:35:36pm |
re: #203 Killgore Trout
I maybe could see bringing an elderly relative to a protest, only if they really wanted to go. Then we would stay way in the back. WAYYY in the back. Someone should have been watching out for her.
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lawhawk Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:35:45pm |
re: #63 Charles
I was thinking of getting one for the mrs, but I wonder how it would render books - whether its easy on the eyes like the other kindles. If it's anything close to it, then this is a no-brainer.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:35:56pm |
re: #179 makeitstop
I hear ya.
As for contemporary drummers, I always like Bill Bruford a lot. He was great in Yes, and just off the charts with King Crimson.
Not many good drummers these days. There are good guitar players, good bass players, some passable singers. No good drummers.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:36:09pm |
re: #195 goddamnedfrank
Okay, how do I know gold is getting ready to jump the shark? There's an ad above telling me I can finance my investment and purchase 4x as much. That's right, apparently people are actually stupid enough to buy gold and silver on finance, and the predatory lenders think this is a great idea.
Also, the price of gold is now higher than platinum, that's just fucked up.
heh..who cares now?...
I made a mint last spring
everyman for himself eh?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:37:04pm |
re: #209 Killgore Trout
Not many good drummers these days. There are good guitar players, good bass players, some passable singers. No good drummers.
As much as you are wrong about OWS
you could not be more wrong about drummers, lol
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freetoken Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:37:52pm |
re: #195 goddamnedfrank
Never try to time movements in commodity prices when group-think has taken over. That gold is priced by panic/manipulation is something that I think most people realize after looking at the stuff over enough years.
Part of the whole fear industry, and that is what it is - a fear industry - that mimics as "news" in so much of our media is just propaganda. And that includes the current broadsides over the Euro, which serve to drive up the price of gold.
One thing to watch is that gold production has been less than impressive for many years - the discovery of major new deposits is a rare thing, indeed. Yes, production is up lately, but that happened because gold become so expensive that even the lousiest deposits become profitable.
This is one of my soapboxes - the false attribution of success by simply being in the right time or right place. Happens in commodities and markets all the time. Someone just happens to buy something at a (relative) low and the price happens to go up before they sell - and thus turn a profit. But could they replicate that reliably? No.
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Cheechako Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:37:55pm |
re: #204 albusteve
not sure but that GTO is very interesting...a beautiful car
Loved that car. 389, 4 on the floor, and fire engine red to boot.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:37:59pm |
Glenn Beck tried to tell us about gold prices....
bwahahaha!
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TedStriker Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:38:18pm |
re: #205 Stanley Sea
Weren't they the ones with the Pacer? Lol we did the phonebooth thing and crammed a ton of girls into one of those.
Yes, the fishbowl on wheels.
Don't forget its ugly-assed forebear, the Gremlin...
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Amory Blaine Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:38:50pm |
When little blue haired old ladies are on the telly urging me to buy gold on margin, you know it's solid.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:39:30pm |
re: #207 Amory Blaine
I maybe could see bringing an elderly relative to a protest, only if they really wanted to go. Then we would stay way in the back. WAYYY in the back. Someone should have been watching out for her.
That's another thing that's hard to tell. I don't think she was exploited and trotted out in front of the pepper spray against her will. She seems like an experienced activist and probably knew what was going on. I still don't think the anarchists should be tolerated at the protests and the protesters instigate a lot of these incidents. This case might be a mistake by the cops but it's not like they're storming the streets macing random grannies. They'd rather not be dealing with this at all.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:40:32pm |
re: #213 Cheechako
Loved that car. 389, 4 on the floor, and fire engine red to boot.
a mighty fine car...66-67 are rapidly moving up in value too...the 66 is my all time favorite GTO, looks wise...very strong, sexy lines
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A Man for all Seasons Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:40:46pm |
re: #216 Amory Blaine
When little blue haired old ladies are on the telly urging me to buy gold on margin, you know it's solid.
I tried to buy a Big Mac at McDonalds with Gold...They kicked me out..
/
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Cheechako Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:41:10pm |
re: #206 Cheechako
Guess my reply was ate somewhere. That Ford Squire s/w had a hood the size of an aircraft carrier flight deck. This s/w was a big, heavy, land yacht. My family would be the winners in any accident we might have gotten into.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:42:00pm |
re: #220 Cheechako
Guess my reply was ate somewhere. That Ford Squire s/w had a hood the size of an aircraft carrier flight deck. This s/w was a big, heavy, land yacht. My family would be the winners in any accident we might have gotten into.
the SUV is the new station wagon now ;_;
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Amory Blaine Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:42:02pm |
re: #219 HoosierHoops
I tried with a $2 bill once. They had to call the manager.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:42:24pm |
Greenhouse construction start tomorrow, hopefully completed by Festivus. I still have some kitty Valium and will probably dose the cats while workmen are about. They hate strangers in the house more than I do.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:42:48pm |
re: #210 albusteve
I made a mint last spring
Apparently you sold too soon, could've had another 20%+. These things are hard to time.
everyman for himself eh?
Yes, you are John Galt. Congratulations.
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:43:10pm |
re: #221 WindUpBird
the SUV is the new station wagon now ;_;
Ya, but the amazing beauty of them is how you have to break your back to get the kids, groceries, luggage up into them.
We really wimped out with the mini-van. It was ultra practical, but got a bad design/rep.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:44:22pm |
re: #225 Stanley Sea
Ya, but the amazing beauty of them is how you have to break your back to get the kids, groceries, luggage up into them.
We really wimped out with the mini-van. It was ultra practical, but got a bad design/rep.
exactly!
I'm a station wagon dude, I like having wagons around, they're still cars, they have low hatches, they can be made into insane performance vehicles
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:44:27pm |
re: #223 Killgore Trout
Greenhouse construction start tomorrow, hopefully completed by Festivus. I still have some kitty Valium and will probably dose the cats while workmen are about. They hate strangers in the house more than I do.
cool...keep us posted...I'd give anything to go up there and build it for you
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prairiefire Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:46:26pm |
re: #225 Stanley Sea
Ya, but the amazing beauty of them is how you have to break your back to get the kids, groceries, luggage up into them.
We really wimped out with the mini-van. It was ultra practical, but got a bad design/rep.
I love my 10 year old Honda Odyssey van. You can drive a mini van like a camaro.
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Cheechako Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:46:39pm |
re: #218 albusteve
a mighty fine car...66-67 are rapidly moving up in value too...the 66 is my all time favorite GTO, looks wise...very strong, sexy lines
Well, mine would have been the perfect 66-67. My wife wrecked it while I was off elk hunting. Our insurance agent convinced her that a 67 front end would look OK on a 66 body. So it was a true 66-67 GTO!
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Interesting Times Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:46:40pm |
re: #195 goddamnedfrank
re: #212 freetoken
Saw this somewhere else, from an Alex Jones fan:
The results of HR 1207 are in: The first audit in the 100 year history of the Federal Reserve has revealed $16 trillion in "off the books" bail-outs lent out at 0% interest to corporations and banks all over the world between 2007 and 2010. That is $2 trillion more than US GDP, and $2.5 trillion more than all US debt of 200 years combined...This is literally your last warning to convert fiat and prepare for expensive food and fuel and utilities in the next few years at minimum.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:48:00pm |
re: #224 goddamnedfrank
Apparently you sold too soon, could've had another 20%+. These things are hard to time.
Yes, you are John Galt. Congratulations.
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A Man for all Seasons Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:51:22pm |
re: #228 prairiefire
I love my 10 year old Honda Odyssey van. You can drive a mini van like a camaro.
I paid my car off in Sept..I was shopping for a new car..You know something sexy..Like a A6 or something..But I've changed my mind..My car is just fine and I'm sick of paying 500 bucks a month for a car..I'm standing pat right now..I like my car..
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:53:05pm |
re: #231 albusteve
the decision to sell was not mine alone...I've collected metals with my sister for 40 years...she had a favorable broker in SD and we sold out...what's another 20% over and above 2000% or whatever it was...call it what you will, that alone was a pile of money
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simoom Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:53:28pm |
The best bit is when the news anchor is interviewing Bolling and he's going on about how various green technologies will never work, and they just randomly toss in a video of an exploding/disintegrating windmill (jump to ~2:20):
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:53:33pm |
re: #227 albusteve
cool...keep us posted...I'd give anything to go up there and build it for you
Construction is the shitty party. The real fun will be tending the tomatoes and peppers while it's snowing outside in January.
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prairiefire Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:54:04pm |
I can put the back bench seat up or down, no problem. The kids have captain's chairs in the middle row. It was made before they started putting tv's in all the cars so my kids have to actually suffer on vacation trips, snicker.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:54:20pm |
re: #232 HoosierHoops
I paid my car off in Sept..I was shopping for a new car..You know something sexy..Like a A6 or something..But I've changed my mind..My car is just fine and I'm sick of paying 500 bucks a month for a car..I'm standing pat right now..I like my car..
good for you and smart too...never cash out til you have firm plan...impulsiveness is a loser
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makeitstop Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:54:50pm |
re: #209 Killgore Trout
Not many good drummers these days. There are good guitar players, good bass players, some passable singers. No good drummers.
WUB mentioned Dailor from Mastodon. He's a brute with finesse, if that makes any sense. :)
And Matthias Bossi from the sadly now broken-up Sleepytime Gorilla Museum is very reminiscent of Cimson-era Bruford.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:55:59pm |
Seattle Police Pepper Spray OWS Protesters
A downtown march and rally in support of the Occupy Wall Street movement turned briefly chaotic as police scattered a crowd of rowdy protesters with blasts of pepper spray. Protest organizers denounced the use of force, saying that police indiscriminately sprayed the chemical irritant at peaceful protesters.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:56:50pm |
re: #235 Killgore Trout
Construction is the shitty party. The real fun will be tending the tomatoes and peppers while it's snowing outside in January.
I build, therefore I am..I can build anything, anywhere, near perfect...I just hope your guys don't burn you, but it sounds easy enough
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:00:25pm |
re: #238 makeitstop
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum is SO GOOD and so weird 6_9
Tomas Haake is awesome but you sorta need to be into his bizarro-math-metal approach
even i can only handle so much meshuggah :D
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:00:25pm |
Chavistas!
[Link: www.daylife.com...]
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A Man for all Seasons Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:02:06pm |
re: #237 albusteve
good for you and smart too...never cash out til you have firm plan...impulsiveness is a loser
Thanks Steve..Why go back in Debt for another 5 years for a newer car? I'm over paying the banks my whole life.. I'd like to knock my credit cards balances off and be debt free..
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:02:34pm |
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lawhawk Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:03:40pm |
re: #230 publicityStunted
Does this guy know that HR 1207 (which he claims supposedly audited the Fed) - never was enacted into law? It didn't clear the House or the Senate, and it certainly wasn't enacted and its provisions weren't enforced.
The provision was again tied into another bill, HR 4173, (Dodd-Frank), but it was a seriously watered down version, and focused on the Fed's lending practices during the bailout period.
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lawhawk Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:04:49pm |
re: #239 Killgore Trout
The OWS are planning something big tomorrow in Lower Manhattan and around NYC, so I'm sure that they'll be getting plenty of press - and not necessarily the good kind.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:04:57pm |
re: #243 HoosierHoops
Thanks Steve..Why go back in Debt for another 5 years for a newer car? I'm over paying the banks my whole life.. I'd like to knock my credit cards balances off and be debt free..
my cash is in deposit boxes scattered around...I keep a couple of grand with Wells Fargo for convenience...I don't deal with banks anymore...debt free is a real buzz dude
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freetoken Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:05:03pm |
re: #235 Killgore Trout
The real fun will be tending the tomatoes and peppers while it's snowing outside in January.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
[Link: docs.google.com...]
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:05:33pm |
re: #248 albusteve
my cash is in deposit boxes scattered around...I keep a couple of grand with Wells Fargo for convenience...I don't deal with banks anymore...debt free is a real buzz dude
getting there *_*
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:06:46pm |
re: #238 makeitstop
Does Mike Bordin count as "these days"?
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:06:52pm |
re: #247 lawhawk
The OWS are planning something big tomorrow in Lower Manhattan and around NYC, so I'm sure that they'll be getting plenty of press - and not necessarily the good kind.
burn down Nordstroms!
that will work
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:07:20pm |
"Biggest hoax since the Moon landing....."
Kind of says it all, doesn't it?
Wind power doesn't work? These guys probably think Columbus's ships used Mercury outboards, and the 17th century Dutch polders were pumped out by oxen on treadmills.
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:07:33pm |
AdamSerwer AdamSerwer
Shorter Alabama pols: No one could have predicted our dumb immigration law would be such a disaster
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:07:48pm |
A priest, a pregnant teenager and an 84 year old lady walk into the SPD:
From the same incident, Ayn Rand deployed against occupiers:
Publicola reported that a short time after the pepper spray was fired, the protesters were lectured by a man in a suit who described himself as a “professional investor.” He told a group of protesters, including a young woman who said she has a job at Safeway but is underemployed, “I’m in the 1 percent; I’m not like you.”
The man also asked the woman, “Who is John Galt?” That question is the first line of Ayn Rand’s novel “Atlas Shrugged,” and the phrase is commonly used by devotees of the book to signal their allegiance to its free-market ideology.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:07:55pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:10:18pm |
re: #256 albusteve
keep at it...you can do it
it is a linear progression, it's progress you can taste :D
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:10:27pm |
re: #247 lawhawk
The OWS are planning something big tomorrow in Lower Manhattan and around NYC, so I'm sure that they'll be getting plenty of press - and not necessarily the good kind.
I've been watching that. I'm sure they'll be some incidents in other parts of the country too but I think a lot of the momentum is gone from OWS. If anything this may be a final gasp of stupidity before they close down for the winter.
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jaunte Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:10:55pm |
re: #255 goddamnedfrank
The man also asked the woman, “Who is John Galt?” That question is the first line of Ayn Rand’s novel “Atlas Shrugged,” and the phrase is commonly used by devotees of the book to signal their allegiance to its free-market ideology.
Then he turned and, not deigning to use the public roads stolen from the job creators by moochers, levitated himself home to his private, off-the-grid eyrie.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:11:28pm |
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freetoken Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:12:15pm |
In a completely unrelated topic... I've concluded that the $1.99 Trader Joe's 73% Dark Chocolate Bars are a really good deal. Even better than the Green&Black's on sale for $2.50 occasionally (at a local grocery store.)
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makeitstop Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:12:44pm |
re: #241 WindUpBird
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum is SO GOOD and so weird 6_9
I got to see them a few years ago. One of a kind, and they were dead brilliant and kicked ass at the same time. After they got done playing (at Highline Ballroom in the city) they just walked off stage and came out and mingled with the crowd. I talked to Nils the guitarist for a while. Nice man, very much the opposite of his onstage persona.
even i can only handle so much meshuggah :D
Yeah, way too intense for an old git like me. :)
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:13:35pm |
re: #259 jaunte
Then he turned and, not deigning to use the public roads stolen from the job creators by moochers, levitated himself home to his private, off-the-grid eyrie.
First he had to grasp his magical bootstraps, which he made himself by killing and skinning a pegasus with his teeth.
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makeitstop Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:14:05pm |
re: #244 WindUpBird
also Billy Rymer
[Video]I'm not even much of a DEP fan but oh hell is he good :D
Whoa. Kid's got groove.
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:14:40pm |
occupyadam occupyAmsterdam
Bekijk deze video -- 3 minutes of Third World - Reggae Festival Amsterdam youtube.com/watch?v=_4uIw0… via @youtube
OccupyBrazil Occupy Brazil
"Lição de democracia", por Geraldo Alckmin e João Grandino Rodas fb.me/10pKuL3vV
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:14:51pm |
re: #258 Killgore Trout
I've been watching that. I'm sure they'll be some incidents in other parts of the country too but I think a lot of the momentum is gone from OWS. If anything this may be a final gasp of stupidity before they close down for the winter.
until OWS figures out that the demon is congress, they will wallow along relying on favorable media attention to fuel their gripe...when they go all out at congress, I will back them with no hesitation
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:15:09pm |
re: #262 makeitstop
I saw Meshuggah with Cynic, they were cool, but I was really there to see Cynic
Oh hey!
there's a drummer from these days who is a golden god, Sean Reinert!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:16:00pm |
re: #264 makeitstop
Whoa. Kid's got groove.
he's nuts-good *_* the whole band is nuts-good! But too screamy and spazzy for me to really listen to a lot of
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:16:23pm |
re: #255 goddamnedfrank
A priest, a pregnant teenager and an 84 year old lady walk into the SPD:
From the same incident, Ayn Rand deployed against occupiers:
Take the teen off the list, she attacked police...
Cops Pepper Spray Pregnant Teen, Older Lady At Occupy Seattle
“Pepper spray was deployed only against subjects who were either refusing a lawful order to disperse or engaging in assaultive behavior toward officers,” Kappel wrote on the department’s blog.
Kappel also noted that one man threw an “unknown liquid” at an officer’s face and was arrested. The officer was not injured.
In another incident, Kappel said a 17-year-old woman swung a stick at an officer, and as police moved to arrest her, others tried to intervene on her behalf, prompting a blast of pepper spray.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:18:17pm |
re: #269 Killgore Trout
Take the teen off the list, she attacked police...
Cops Pepper Spray Pregnant Teen, Older Lady At Occupy Seattle
stupid...old ladies and preggo teens...stupid
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:18:20pm |
I know my views seem pretty radical these days but maybe pregnant teens should attack police. Just a thought.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:18:30pm |
re: #266 albusteve
...when they go all out at congress, I will back them with no hesitation
Riiight, as long as they pretend both sides are equally bad and don't get into the whole business of who's for and against regulation.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:19:30pm |
re: #271 Killgore Trout
I knoiw my views seem pretty radical these days but maybe pregnant teens should attack police. Just a thought.
it's for the children...CHARGE!
excuse me if I sound cold
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makeitstop Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:20:26pm |
UTexas College Republican head says a dumb thing...
Hours after Pennsylvania State Police arrested a 21-year-old Idaho man for allegedly firing a semi-automatic rifle at the White House, the top student official for the College Republicans at the University of Texas tweeted that the idea of assassinating President Obama was “tempting.”
At 2:29 p.m. ET, UT’s Lauren E. Pierce wrote: “Y’all as tempting as it may be, don’t shoot Obama. We need him to go down in history as the WORST president we’ve EVER had! #2012.”
Her defense? Well, you can guess...
Pierce, the president of the College Republicans at UT Austin, told ABC News the comment was a “joke” and that the “whole [shooting incident] was stupid.” Giggling, she said that an attempted assassination would “only make the situation worse.”
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Political Atheist Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:20:51pm |
re: #258 Killgore Trout
I've been watching that. I'm sure they'll be some incidents in other parts of the country too but I think a lot of the momentum is gone from OWS. If anything this may be a final gasp of stupidity before they close down for the winter.
The irony is OWS is working harder in the general interest of us than our recently purchased Congress.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:20:55pm |
re: #273 albusteve
They're excitied because they think they've created their "Kent state" moment. It might stick, maybe not. We'll have to wait an see.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:21:02pm |
re: #272 goddamnedfrank
Riiight, as long as they pretend both sides are equally bad and don't get into the whole business of who's for and against regulation.
man, are you smart
awsome
which side are you on?...are you winning?
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:22:15pm |
re: #276 Killgore Trout
They're excitied because they think they've created their "Kent state" moment. It might stick, maybe not. We'll have to wait an see.
the whole thing is beginning to suck...but what do I know?...ask Frank
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:22:21pm |
re: #275 Rightwingconspirator
The irony is OWS is working harder in the general interest of us than our recently purchased Congress.
They may be working harder but they've accomplished absolutely nothing but generating bad publicity for themselves.
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:25:41pm |
re: #276 Killgore Trout
They're excited because they think they've created their "Kent state" moment. It might stick, maybe not. We'll have to wait an see.
Shut up. You want it, you are waiting for it, and dear god if it comes, you of all people, at this blog will be vilified for it. Regardless of your culpability. But your damn yearning will not be forgot.
Every thread derailed. Every single one.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:26:11pm |
re: #66 Charles
News on the home front: just licensed my share of a song I helped write with the George Duke Band, "Reach For It," for use in Grand Theft Auto 5. So I'm doing my part to contribute to the dissolution of America's morals and the corruption of our youth.
That should pay for your new kindle fire!
LOL!
Merry Christmas, early to you!
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:27:08pm |
re: #269 Killgore Trout
Take the teen off the list, she attacked police...
Cops Pepper Spray Pregnant Teen, Older Lady At Occupy Seattle
The pregnant teen is not alleged to have attacked police, two different teens. Your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired. From your own link.
Paramedics examined a handful of people, including a 19-year-old woman who was three-months pregnant, Seattle fire department spokesman Kyle Moore said. The Seattle Times reported on its website that the woman was taken by ambulance to Harborview Medical Center.
...
In another incident, Kappel said a 17-year-old woman swung a stick at an officer, and as police moved to arrest her, others tried to intervene on her behalf, prompting a blast of pepper spray.
See, the pregnant teen was 19, the alleged stick swinger was 17.
Also, there is some at least some doubt as to the police version of events:
It seems possible that the protester seized by police officers and hurled to the ground in Mr. Herz’s video might have been a young woman wearing a hooded sweatshirt, rather than a man. If that is the arrest described in the police statement, the footage does not support the written account, since there was no sign of anyone swinging a stick, and the initial volley of pepper spray was fired well before the police moved to take that person into custody.
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bratwurst Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:27:18pm |
re: #281 Stanley Sea
Shut up. You want it, you are waiting for it, and dear god if it comes, you of all people, at this blog will be vilified for it. Regardless of your culpability. But your damn yearning will not be forgot.
Every thread derailed. Every single one.
Tough but fair.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:27:43pm |
re: #275 Rightwingconspirator
The irony is OWS is working harder in the general interest of us than our recently purchased Congress.
While that's true, KT's too into full on hate mode to care. He thinks everything about OWS is teh ultimate Ebil and anyone who thinks otherwise is just a smelly Marxist Hippie who wants to stab and rape and pillage and burn.
The best thing to do is ignore him at this point and hope he stops hating before it eats him up.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:28:05pm |
if I were radical, I'd be pounding on the of the office doors of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd...they should be in a cell somewhere...but protesting is a social convenience....lucky them...it's futile, just what neohippies can't understand...they are too full of themselves and partisan...libs rule!
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:28:55pm |
re: #284 bratwurst
Tough but fair.
I have a feeling the whole weird scenario will play through.
I'm watching a what did Obdi call it today? A dada show.
Look up his comment, it was spot on.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:29:22pm |
re: #281 Stanley Sea
Shut up. You want it, you are waiting for it, and dear god if it comes, you of all people, at this blog will be vilified for it. Regardless of your culpability. But your damn yearning will not be forgot.
Every thread derailed. Every single one.
not sure but i think there is medication for this sort of hostility....anyone?
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:29:36pm |
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:31:24pm |
re: #288 albusteve
not sure but i think there is medication for this sort of hostility...anyone?
I worked fucking hard on a car thread. It was fun. And of course got derailed.
Not my point to direct a fucking blog thread, but LATELY. It's been needed.
You guys are fucking up a good venue.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:31:41pm |
re: #288 albusteve
Purple people eaters, I believe you called them?
Salud!
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:31:42pm |
Here come the tweakers!
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:32:12pm |
re: #290 Stanley Sea
*SMOOCH*
Because.
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:34:22pm |
re: #293 Floral Giraffe
Girlio! I miss ya! I've had the most internet crappy life lately, but cheap rent so I don't complain too much. Tonight has been snap happy.
Hope all is well!
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:34:54pm |
I posted about Fast and Furious when the story broke and got killed for it...you lib blog nazis are a joke...you want to decide what's posted in your favor but refuse to answer for your own partisan shit...you get zero respect from me...what's up with Solyandra?...you want cred? is it earned trashing Cain all day?...what a laugher...bunch of wimps
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:36:27pm |
re: #271 Killgore Trout
I knoiw my views seem pretty radical these days but maybe pregnant teens should attack police. Just a thought.
Hahaha, Oh Wow!
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:36:28pm |
re: #295 albusteve
I posted about Fast and Furious when the story broke and got killed for it...you lib blog nazis are a joke...you want to decide what's posted in your favor but refuse to answer for your own partisan shit...you get zero respect from me...what's up with Solyandra?...you want cred? is it earned trashing Cain all day?...what a laugher...bunch of wimps
I don't want cred, I just want something to keep me from going mad while I edit millions of essays.
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:36:41pm |
sgw94 Stephen White
South. Park. Went. There.
Alouette? Our East Coast watchers? CANT WAIT
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:36:45pm |
re: #294 Stanley Sea
Girlio! I miss ya! I've had the most internet crappy life lately, but cheap rent so I don't complain too much. Tonight has been snap happy.
Hope all is well!
Sending you a funny.
Obdicut posted it for me.
You need to be sitting down...
*SMOOCH*
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:37:23pm |
re: #290 Stanley Sea
I worked fucking hard on a car thread. It was fun. And of course got derailed.
Not my point to direct a fucking blog thread, but LATELY. It's been needed.
You guys are fucking up a good venue.
we are not fucking up anything...your childish behavior might tho...it's a news blog...move on when you don't want to contribute...bitching about what's posted is for wimps
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:40:14pm |
re: #300 albusteve
we are not fucking up anything...your childish behavior might tho...it's a news blog...move on when you don't want to contribute...bitching about what's posted is for wimps
OH STEVE, you are killing me.
various personalities. What is good now?
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:42:40pm |
Hoops, I sent it to you too.
Because!
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:44:50pm |
re: #301 Stanley Sea
OH STEVE, you are killing me.
various personalities. What is good now?
nothing if you don't comprende all the mindless posts about whatever you seem to favor as good posts...you condemn Killgore but easily forget your own contribution to miles of endless tripe regarding the GOP and TP people...scorn is due but you have zero clue about overdoing it....you've got nothing to complain about
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:44:59pm |
LOL. All teens look the same to me, even though I'm reading about them and they have different ages and one is pregnant. But whatever, the last thing I'm going to do is actually acknowledge my error.
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:46:02pm |
The owner of my company came down today.
He drives a Bentley. The 2 door style. We saw the interior today (whoo!) It's fucking orange leather. Like your mid-century modern furniture.
Amazing.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:46:57pm |
re: #305 Stanley Sea
The owner of my company came down today.
He drives a Bentley. The 2 door style. We saw the interior today (whoo!) It's fucking orange leather. Like your mid-century modern furniture.
Amazing.
Continental GT
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:47:33pm |
re: #304 goddamnedfrank
LOL. All teens look the same to me, even though I'm reading about them and they have different ages and one is pregnant. But whatever, the last thing I'm going to do is actually acknowledge my error.
typical
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:48:01pm |
re: #305 Stanley Sea
Convertible? Or hard top?
The prettiest one I've seen is a convertible with a dark blue fabric top, light metallic blue body & cream leather interior.
YUM!
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:48:23pm |
tribal bs at lgf.
lol remember mandy with lee greenwood?
LOL
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A Man for all Seasons Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:49:18pm |
re: #302 Floral Giraffe
Hoops, I sent it to you too.
Because!
Thank you..I see it came over the Blackberry...I'll be going dark tonight in Oklahoma..And will be talking to you from Cali soon..
Your thoughts and prayers have meant a lot to me Floral...You are good people..
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makeitstop Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:49:32pm |
re: #309 Stanley Sea
tribal bs at lgf.
lol remember mandy with lee greenwood?
LOL
Before my time. I got here as Mandy was being, um, escorted out.
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:49:33pm |
re: #308 Floral Giraffe
Convertible? Or hard top?
The prettiest one I've seen is a convertible with a dark blue fabric top, light metallic blue body & cream leather interior.
YUM!
Hard top. we kinda complain about our lack of raises & bonuses when he shows us his car.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:49:52pm |
re: #309 Stanley Sea
tribal bs at lgf.
lol remember mandy with lee greenwood?
LOL
you're tribal yourself and don't even know it
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:50:09pm |
re: #312 Stanley Sea
Well, yeah. But he does OWN the place...
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jaunte Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:50:44pm |
The push is on to discredit clean energy investment
Liberals often react with bewilderment when waves of stories like this show up, puzzled that they've "lost the argument." But it's not an argument that they're losing. It's a contest of power and influence. When you see drums pounding for Solyndra, and then for other DOE loan recipients, and then for all energy subsidies, and then for the entire history of energy subsidies, it's because somebody is pounding the drums. There are people compiling damning research and pushing it out to reporters.
For bloggers and wonks, the right response to this may be wringing of hands and lamentations about the degraded state of democracy and/or media. But for the professionals involved in the promotion of clean energy and climate solutions -- the think tanks, advocacy groups, and trade associations -- the right response is to pound louder.
There's no doubt that voters respond to the need for public energy investment when it's framed in terms of ambition and national purpose. And there's no doubt that they turn on it when it's framed in terms of wasteful government spending. So which frame surrounds the information that reaches voters? That is the question that determines public opinion.
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Obdicut Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:50:59pm |
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:53:21pm |
re: #313 albusteve
you're tribal yourself and don't even know it
Dude, this LGF site has made this radical liberal think so much about things that I'm now radical liberal center. THIS PLACE WORKS when its balanced. It's been really bizarre lately, and we'll see where it ends.
You folks to me are picking sides, and supporting that side regardless of what they say.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:54:11pm |
re: #316 Obdicut
I respect you, not so much these other lazy bitchmongers...
as if certain posts ruin their 24/7 blog vibe
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:55:22pm |
re: #317 Stanley Sea
Dude, this LGF site has made this radical liberal think so much about things that I'm now radical liberal center. THIS PLACE WORKS when its balanced. It's been really bizarre lately, and we'll see where it ends.
You folks to me are picking sides, and supporting that side regardless of what they say.
quit complaining and sides will become less important...too bad not everyone agrees with you
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:56:23pm |
re: #319 albusteve
quit complaining and sides will become less important...too bad not everyone agrees with you
this is where you fail. discuss the issues, not the nuance.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:57:37pm |
re: #320 Stanley Sea
this is where you fail. discuss the issues, not the nuance.
I fail?...I don't complain about what's posted...you do...you don't like it go elsewhere
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 7:59:14pm |
re: #321 albusteve
I fail?...I don't complain about what's posted...you do...you don't like it go elsewhere
Stevie, you ALWAYS complain about whats posted on this blog.
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darthstar Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:01:11pm |
Hey everyone...what burrs are up peoples' butts tonight? Time for "Survivor"...stupid fucking show, but I told my wife I'd watch the series for the fuck of it...she dropped out after about three episodes, but I'm going strong. I can't wait to see how these assholes become important celebrities in our culture.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:01:11pm |
re: #322 Stanley Sea
Stevie, you ALWAYS complain about whats posted on this blog.
if that's you fall back, it bothers me not...start a Palin thread if you want a bitchfest...I'm here to learn and have fun
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bratwurst Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:01:18pm |
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Obdicut Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:01:58pm |
re: #321 albusteve
I fail?...I don't complain about what's posted
What a bizarre thing to lie about.
re: #303 albusteve
nothing if you don't comprende all the mindless posts about whatever you seem to favor as good posts...you condemn Killgore but easily forget your own contribution to miles of endless tripe regarding the GOP and TP people...scorn is due but you have zero clue about overdoing it...you've got nothing to complain about
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:02:11pm |
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:02:22pm |
I needed a car. Fast. Today. Found a 68 VW red convertible. Sucker!
I had that car for 3 years. Loved it. The gas gauge never worked. I would run out too often to be a good car owner.
Sold it to a VW lover. Hope it's awesome.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:02:53pm |
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Obdicut Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:04:00pm |
re: #329 albusteve
I didn't complain about it at the time...are you dense?
You complain all the time, Steve. Most of your posts are gripes and swipes at other posters. Hell, the first conversation we ever had, you mistook me for another poster and bitched at me for about two hours before I finally hammered it into you that you were shit-talking the wrong person.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:05:02pm |
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Talking Point Detective Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:06:07pm |
re: #329 albusteve
I didn't complain about it at the time...are you dense?
I think he makes a good point. There were a few seconds in between posts when he wasn't complaining about what people were posting.
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:06:45pm |
Cimex lectularius, I hate you with the fury of a 1000 blazing suns!
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:06:53pm |
a few of you have lost all perspective regarding what LGF is all about...parroting each other, complaining about Killgore, disregarding any possible negative view of BO, trashing easy targets all day long like lemmings...go for it, nobody has tried to stop you
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Amory Blaine Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:07:09pm |
Ugh. This is what it's coming to.
An episode of the BBC's Frozen Planet documentary series that looks at climate change has been scrapped in the U.S., where many are hostile to the idea of global warming.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:08:00pm |
I'm just going to continue to talk about drummers if it's all the same to yall
Bordin shows you how it is done
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darthstar Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:08:03pm |
rubber::steve, glue::you...
There, steve...I just fuckin' PWNED everyone on the fuckin' planet on your behalf... Yeah...I got this shit.
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Obdicut Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:08:06pm |
re: #335 albusteve
Steve, you're vomiting on your keyboard again.
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Talking Point Detective Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:08:13pm |
re: #335 albusteve
... nobody has tried to stop you
1) As if you could.
2) Then why are you complaining?
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:08:29pm |
re: #335 albusteve
LOL!
So, Mr. Lemming, the cliff is off to your left.
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palomino Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:08:46pm |
re: #209 Killgore Trout
Not many good drummers these days. There are good guitar players, good bass players, some passable singers. No good drummers.
Forget OWS. Now I really disagree.
Tool's drummer Danny Carey is pretty phenomenal.
And semi-babe Janet Weiss ain't bad either. Though Sleater-Kinney broke up. Boo hoo. Here she is banging and shaking on Letterman a few years back.
There may not be a Keith Moon around anymore, banging on the drums like he had 8 arms (hence nickname Octopus). Moon's kind of a unique animal; he violated all the rules and played drums as a lead instrument much of the time while Townshend kept rhythm with his guitar. He didn't just keep time like most drummers, he added density and texture and unpredicatability to the music. Here's a short bio and a live performance.
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darthstar Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:08:53pm |
re: #339 Obdicut
Steve, you're vomiting on your keyboard again.
That's not vomit...it's just regurgitation.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:09:05pm |
I say post whatever you want and let CJ sort out the chaff...these attacks on me and KT are meaningless tripe
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:09:16pm |
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darthstar Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:09:33pm |
re: #344 albusteve
I say post whatever you want and let CJ sort out the chaff...these attacks on me and KT are meaningless tripe
They're not attacking you...they're just fucking with your heightened sensitivity.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:09:58pm |
vomitting on my keyboard...thanks for illustrating my point
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bratwurst Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:10:01pm |
re: #330 Obdicut
You complain all the time, Steve. Most of your posts are gripes and swipes at other posters. Hell, the first conversation we ever had, you mistook me for another poster and bitched at me for about two hours before I finally hammered it into you that you were shit-talking the wrong person.
I am touched Steve still loves me enough to call me names after more than two years. When he went on one of his 180 degree turns once and criticized others for name calling, I pointed out that he has been calling me names since the very week I got here...his excuse was that I did not appear to be "friendly enough". LOL
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:10:12pm |
re: #342 palomino
Carey ^_^
Happy I got to see Tool live in the early days, no giant stage set, just rat bastards on the side stage at lollapalooza :D
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:10:37pm |
re: #344 albusteve
Truth, it is Charles's blog, to do with as he pleases.
Well, and who he lets Stinky after...
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:11:36pm |
re: #348 bratwurst
I am touched Steve still loves me enough to call me names after more than two years. When he went on one of his 180 degree turns once and criticized others for name calling, I pointed out that he has been calling me names since the very week I got here...his excuse was that I did appear to be "friendly enough". LOL
I rarely start a brawl...but I'll jump in, in a heartbeat....go ahead and attack all you want
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:12:08pm |
re: #334 oaktree
Cimex lectularius, I hate you with the fury of a 1000 blazing suns!
Oh, crud, you got 'em?
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palomino Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:13:36pm |
re: #295 albusteve
I posted about Fast and Furious when the story broke and got killed for it...you lib blog nazis are a joke...you want to decide what's posted in your favor but refuse to answer for your own partisan shit...you get zero respect from me...what's up with Solyandra?...you want cred? is it earned trashing Cain all day?...what a laugher...bunch of wimps
Straight from the Fox Nation playbook of commentary. Dead giveaway: "you libs" blah blah blah.
What's up with Solyndra? Why don't you tell us?
You talk about cred, and call your fellow lizards nazis and wimps? LOL, yeah, that's credibility.
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Stanghazi Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:14:22pm |
re: #344 albusteve
I say post whatever you want and let CJ sort out the chaff...these attacks on me and KT are meaningless tripe
Attacks. Gotta respond.
Grow something. Please.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:14:52pm |
re: #348 bratwurst
I am touched Steve still loves me enough to call me names after more than two years. When he went on one of his 180 degree turns once and criticized others for name calling, I pointed out that he has been calling me names since the very week I got here...his excuse was that I did appear to be "friendly enough". LOL
I used to argue with Steve. I resented his sniping at Obama.
Then, I accepted the Zen of Steve.
I think that's what wrong with me and Killgore right now. I'm applying the Zen of Steve. While everyone else is shocked to the core by him, I'm just going, Hmmmm, more of this, all right, this is interesting.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:14:52pm |
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:15:17pm |
re: #350 Floral Giraffe
Truth, it is Charles's blog, to do with as he pleases.
Well, and who he lets Stinky after...
exactly...people want to claim this place as their own, make posting rules etc...let CJ sort it out...but I'll say this for myself...he doesn't like constant bickering and that's just what I see here regarding posts...constant ragging on any one poster gets in my nerves, it's not about being right, it's about being fair
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:15:32pm |
re: #355 SanFranciscoZionist
hard to argue with that, hah
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Obdicut Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:15:59pm |
re: #355 SanFranciscoZionist
You are not behaving anything like Killgore.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:16:36pm |
Reinert!
really, there's just no excuse for saying there are no good drummers nowadays
Unforgivable ignorance :D
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Talking Point Detective Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:16:58pm |
re: #355 SanFranciscoZionist
I think Killgore's posts are interesting - in a vapid and pointless kind of way.
Very Zen.
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Obdicut Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:17:14pm |
re: #357 albusteve
How about you just stop behaving like an asshole, instead of forcing Charles to give you timeouts for being such a fucking jerk?
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:17:20pm |
re: #358 WindUpBird
hard to argue with that, hah
Well, it was that or be exploding with wrath every time Steve had a fit of politics or personalities.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:18:33pm |
re: #359 Obdicut
You are not behaving anything like Killgore.
True. But he's not getting under my skin, and I can see that he's doing that with a lot of folks.
Dunno. Seriously, no emotional response. It's just Killgore. Doin' a war dance.
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Talking Point Detective Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:18:36pm |
re: #359 Obdicut
You are not behaving anything like Killgore.
I thought this:
I think that's what wrong with me and Killgore right now.
to be an explanation why she's reacting differently to Killgore than other people are?
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:18:59pm |
re: #362 Obdicut
How about you just stop behaving like an asshole, instead of forcing Charles to give you timeouts for being such a fucking jerk?
yeah, behaving like an asshole trying to bring some peace to the blog...nice going
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Obdicut Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:19:21pm |
re: #365 SanFranciscoZionist
You really don't have any response to him laughing about people getting attacked by the police? Or accusing other people of supporting rape? That's just.. nothing?
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palomino Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:20:06pm |
re: #349 WindUpBird
Carey ^_^
Happy I got to see Tool live in the early days, no giant stage set, just rat bastards on the side stage at lollapalooza :D
wish I had seen them back then...only saw them once and it was a huge venue where immediacy usually gets lost--Staples Center in LA
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Obdicut Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:20:19pm |
re: #368 albusteve
Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back, Steve. You've got an amazingly high opinion of yourself. I don't think I've ever met anyone as blusteringly vain as you are.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:21:58pm |
re: #361 Talking Point Detective
here's what I've learned
KT doesn't like protesters! okay! Cool!
I'm looking beyond the protesters to the endgame of what happens if we keep going for another 20 years in the direction the financial state of our country, the erosion of the middle class is going.
and it's not good, it's frankly horrifying to me
Therefore, OWS is encouraging to me, because it's actual anger and unrest, and not just docile acceptance
Killgore is old, I am young
that's really what i take away from all this LGF OWS bickering at the end of the day, I have another 50 years on this rock, he doesn't, therefore I give more of a shit. Logic!
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:22:41pm |
re: #352 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh, crud, you got 'em?
Saw and caught one on Tuesday. Today has been spent doing laundry on every piece of cloth in the apartment, vacuuming everything, and a basic low sense of dread for what the exterminator might find tomorrow.
The apartment building management has taken it well, been very cooperative, and is covering the exterminator cost.
The great mystery of course is where said bug came from since I have not been traveling recently and practically no one other than me has been in the apartment.
(To those not following I referenced the Latin name of the common bed bug earlier. Getting rid of them once found almost boils down to standing off and nuking the site since it is the only way to be sure.)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:22:51pm |
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:23:40pm |
re: #371 Obdicut
Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back, Steve. You've got an amazingly high opinion of yourself. I don't think I've ever met anyone as blusteringly vain as you are.
then you need to get off the net and out more in the meat world...if I'm an asshole for trying to get people to settle down then you are an asshole too...your often caustic posts are proof enough...like this one
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Cap'nDave Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:24:18pm |
Hey I'm all for the so called green energy tech. But what do you expect to get out of it? Contrary to what some may think it is not nor ever will be a cure. All it can do is supplement already over burdened 'dirty' power sources. Planting wind farms to some degree is fine but on every inch of free land is idiotic and we'll still come up short. The way I see in order to meet the world's population energy demands we should consider either nuclear energy or ... "Soylent red and Soylent yellow, high energy vegetable concentrates, and new, delicious, Soylent green. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world."
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:24:41pm |
re: #359 Obdicut
You are not behaving anything like Killgore.
OMG, no!
SFZ is kinda like our poet laureat, or something.
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makeitstop Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:25:16pm |
re: #372 WindUpBird
here's what I've learned
KT doesn't like protesters! okay! Cool!
I'm looking beyond the protesters to the endgame of what happens if we keep going for another 20 years in the direction the financial state of our country, the erosion of the middle class is going.
and it's not good, it's frankly horrifying to me
Therefore, OWS is encouraging to me, because it's actual anger and unrest, and not just docile acceptance
Killgore is old, I am young
that's really what i take away from all this LGF OWS bickering at the end of the day, I have another 50 years on this rock, he doesn't, therefore I give more of a shit. Logic!
There's greybeards here that think the same way, despite our rapidly-approaching expiration dates. :)
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jaunte Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:25:26pm |
re: #377 Cap'nDave
it is not nor ever will be a cure
Do you have any support at all for that assertion?
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palomino Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:25:56pm |
re: #376 albusteve
then you need to get off the net and out more in the meat world...if I'm an asshole for trying to get people to settle down then you are an asshole too...your often caustic posts are proof enough...like this one
You're actually criticizing someone for their "caustic" posts. Look in a mirror. Physician, heal thyself.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:26:01pm |
re: #368 albusteve
LOL!
Speaking of behaving like an asshole..
If the shoe fits,
DUDE!
Look in the mirror!
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:27:39pm |
re: #382 Floral Giraffe
LOL!
Speaking of behaving like an asshole..
If the shoe fits,
DUDE!
Look in the mirror!
an asshole calls me an asshole, so it goes round and round...no big deal
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:27:54pm |
re: #369 Obdicut
You really don't have any response to him laughing about people getting attacked by the police? Or accusing other people of supporting rape? That's just.. nothing?
It's not nothing, but it's abstract. Not the gloating over police violence, that seems stupid and shabby, and annoys me. But the rest of it....the spamming, the rapey stabby routines...
It feels like performance art. It actually took me a long time to believe that he was serious, because it doesn't read like that to me at all.
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makeitstop Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:28:42pm |
re: #377 Cap'nDave
Hey I'm all for the so called green energy tech. But what do you expect to get out of it? Contrary to what some may think it is not nor ever will be a cure. All it can do is supplement already over burdened 'dirty' power sources. Planting wind farms to some degree is fine but on every inch of free land is idiotic and we'll still come up short. The way I see in order to meet the world's population energy demands we should consider either nuclear energy or ... "Soylent red and Soylent yellow, high energy vegetable concentrates, and new, delicious, Soylent green. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world."
But in Wilbur and Orville's day, a plane could only fly a couple of hundred feet.
Technology advances. And what might only be a supplement today can be developed into a primary source. We were smart enough to invent it, we've got to be smart enough to improve it.
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Talking Point Detective Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:30:15pm |
re: #369 Obdicut
You really don't have any response to him laughing about people getting attacked by the police? Or accusing other people of supporting rape? That's just.. nothing?
I don't have the long-standing personal connections that other people here have, but when I see someone accusing others of "supporting" rapes and stabbings, I'm kind of with SFZ. It's something to observe, perhaps ridicule - but not really to take personal offense to.
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Obdicut Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:32:11pm |
re: #384 SanFranciscoZionist
It's not nothing, but it's abstract. Not the gloating over police violence, that seems stupid and shabby, and annoys me. But the rest of it...the spamming, the rapey stabby routines...
It feels like performance art. It actually took me a long time to believe that he was serious, because it doesn't read like that to me at all.
Well, as much as I joke about it being performance art, it's clearly not.
So it's just kind of sad to me.
And, you know, I got raped. Those kids at Penn State got raped. Accusing other people of supporting rape isn't funny, it's not clever, it's not acceptable hyperbole. It's just fucking stupid and offensive.
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Talking Point Detective Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:32:12pm |
re: #372 WindUpBird
here's what I've learned
KT doesn't like protesters! okay! Cool!
I'm looking beyond the protesters to the endgame of what happens if we keep going for another 20 years in the direction the financial state of our country, the erosion of the middle class is going.
and it's not good, it's frankly horrifying to me
Therefore, OWS is encouraging to me, because it's actual anger and unrest, and not just docile acceptance
Killgore is old, I am young
that's really what i take away from all this LGF OWS bickering at the end of the day, I have another 50 years on this rock, he doesn't, therefore I give more of a shit. Logic!
I'm with you generally wrt OWS, but I'm probably more in his age cohort than yours.
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Political Atheist Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:33:19pm |
re: #279 Killgore Trout
They may be working harder but they've accomplished absolutely nothing but generating bad publicity for themselves.
It ain't over.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:33:42pm |
re: #387 Obdicut
Well, as much as I joke about it being performance art, it's clearly not.
So it's just kind of sad to me.
And, you know, I got raped. Those kids at Penn State got raped. Accusing other people of supporting rape isn't funny, it's not clever, it's not acceptable hyperbole. It's just fucking stupid and offensive.
And I can't argue with you there. At all.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:33:43pm |
re: #388 Talking Point Detective
I'm with you generally wrt OWS, but I'm probably more in his age cohort than yours.
but you're also not doing the shut-in socrates act :D
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Talking Point Detective Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:34:02pm |
re: #387 Obdicut
Well, as much as I joke about it being performance art, it's clearly not.
So it's just kind of sad to me.
And, you know, I got raped. Those kids at Penn State got raped. Accusing other people of supporting rape isn't funny, it's not clever, it's not acceptable hyperbole. It's just fucking stupid and offensive.
Yeah - good points.
I shouldn't be suggesting that other people shouldn't take offense - although I personally find it more pathetic than offensive.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:35:44pm |
re: #379 makeitstop
There's greybeards here that think the same way, despite our rapidly-approaching expiration dates. :)
It's less old-per-se and more the "already-prejudiced-against-X-and-hell-why-not-just-complain-instead-of-looking-at-the-big-picture-because-no-invetsment-wheee"
shoulda clarified *_*
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:37:12pm |
re: #387 Obdicut
Well, as much as I joke about it being performance art, it's clearly not.
So it's just kind of sad to me.
And, you know, I got raped. Those kids at Penn State got raped. Accusing other people of supporting rape isn't funny, it's not clever, it's not acceptable hyperbole. It's just fucking stupid and offensive.
For me it's the intellectual dishonesty combined with the (conveniently) poor reading comprehension. Make a mistake, fine, but acknowledge it or I'm less inclined to think of it as a mistake. It's happened too many times and now it's a pattern.
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Talking Point Detective Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:37:28pm |
re: #393 WindUpBird
It's less old-per-se and more the "already-prejudiced-against-X-and-hell-why-not-just-complain-instead-of-looking-at-the-big-picture-because-no-invetsment-wheee"
shoulda clarified *_*
but, but, HIPPIES!!!1
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:38:27pm |
albusteve is more right about congress, than KT is about OWS
anyway, drums!
also Killgore knows way less about drums than I do, never trust grandpa when grandpa says music sucks these days
'
suck on that with your paradiddles :D
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bratwurst Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:40:22pm |
re: #392 Talking Point Detective
Yeah - good points.
I shouldn't be suggesting that other people shouldn't take offense - although I personally find it more pathetic than offensive.
I was one of the people who was accused by name of supporting rape. I was not happy about it (and still can't for the life of me recall another poster here permitted to accuse individuals of such horrible things), but tempered that with the fact that I don't know him and he doesn't know me. The funny thing is that I share much (but not all) of his point of view on OWS. I merely object to his bizarre need to post about it in each and every thread and condescend to those who see it differently.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:40:31pm |
Thomas Pridgen of Mars Volta
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:40:38pm |
re: #394 goddamnedfrank
For me it's the intellectual dishonesty combined with the (conveniently) poor reading comprehension. Make a mistake, fine, but acknowledge it or I'm less inclined to think of it as a mistake. It's happened too many times and now it's a pattern.
you intellectual dishonesty is like HAHAHA!
could you be more dopetive?
nobody here promotes rape or other felony
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:41:41pm |
re: #397 bratwurst
I was one of the people who was accused by name of supporting rape. I was not happy about it (and still can't for the life of me recall another poster here permitted to accuse individuals of such horrible things), but tempered that with the fact that I don't know him and he doesn't know me. The funny thing is that I share much (but not all) of his point of view on OWS. I merely object to his bizarre need to post about it in each and every thread and condescend to those who see it differently.
Yes, this.
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:42:54pm |
if sarcasm is aimed at you, you dumbass, and you don't get it...too bad
stab
rape
pillage!
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albusteve Wed, Nov 16, 2011 8:44:31pm |
you think at some point people are smart, then they prove they aren't by a huge margin
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Nov 16, 2011 9:23:52pm |
re: #50 publicityStunted
Speaking of flat-earth, low-information individuals, fossil fuel industries get far, far, far more tax dollars than renewable energy:
Stossel lied to me? NoooOOooooooOOOoo!
///
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Nov 17, 2011 1:29:33am |
re: #365 SanFranciscoZionist
True. But he's not getting under my skin, and I can see that he's doing that with a lot of folks.
Dunno. Seriously, no emotional response. It's just Killgore. Doin' a war dance.
I gotcha. Same thing is with spacejesus. If KT wants to become another spacejesus, good. Not sure that's what he had in mind tho.
Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)
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