Here’s a second thread for the South Carolina GOP debate, because the first one’s filling up fast.
My take so far:
Get used to saying it: “Romney’s the nominee.” Say it ten times fast.
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ElCapitanAmerica Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:21:26pm |
Charles Johnson @Lizardoid
All the Republican candidates are agreeing with the Obama administration on SOPA, except Rick Santorum.
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Santorum didn't say that he supported SOPA, just that he agreed it went too far but something is needed.
That's the same position as the administration.
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jamesfirecat Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:21:26pm |
Well to his credit if it turns out to be true Jon Stewart called it back in on November 10th...
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:21:48pm |
Gingrich: Pay off Marianne
Romney: Learn more jokes
Santorum: Kill the internet
Paul: Buy up the old newsletters
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:21:49pm |
My impression so far is that Romney's finding out that his coronation has not yet happened, that Newt's convinced he truly is the next best thing to God, that Santorum starts making sense when he's in deep shit, and that Paul's still nowhere near regaining grip on reality.
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:22:32pm |
Obama got Osama!
God that must drive them batty...ier.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:23:15pm |
As I traveled around Iowa...and Iowa...and Iowa...
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ElCapitanAmerica Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:23:51pm |
Hey that guy from Law and Order ... what's his name again ... :-) ?
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engineer cat Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:23:51pm |
“Romney’s the nominee.”
now you have to untie my tongue...
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:23:55pm |
Rom-uh-nee the Nom-uh-nee sounds like a character from the Muppet Show.
I am ROM-uhnee
the NOM-uhnee
OBAMA flees at the
SIGHT-o-me!
I'm PRESidential WANNAbee
I'm ROM-uhnee
the NOM-uhnee!
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darthstar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:24:01pm |
These campaigns are young. They've got months left. South Carolina's only the third state of the season.
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:24:05pm |
re: #7 ElCapitanAmerica
Hey that guy from Law and Order ... what's his name again ... :-) ?
Fred Thompson.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:24:39pm |
Newt: "I'm a very idea-oriented candidate." As in: "put poor kids to work swabbing out toilets in public schools."
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ElCapitanAmerica Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:25:04pm |
"How do we make sure I can compete for those jobs picking tomatoes that I want my children to aspire to"
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:25:06pm |
re: #9 negativ
like so
Image: EXFAu.jpg
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engineer cat Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:25:28pm |
a question from the audience
"how will you make it sound like mexicans are taking away our jobs?"
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BongCrodny Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:25:29pm |
re: #9 negativ
Rom-uh-nee the Nom-uh-nee sounds like a character from the Muppet Show.
I am ROM-uhnee
the NOM-uhnee...I'm off to kill the COM-uhnees
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:25:35pm |
Yes, let's take half of DHS and divert their attention.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:25:50pm |
English as the official language!
Shakespearean!
We must now all speak in Iambic Pentameter.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:26:14pm |
re: #22 EmmmieG
English as the official language!
Shakespearean!
We must now all speaking in Iambic Pentameter.
Fuck ye!
///
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engineer cat Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:26:19pm |
re: #14 Charles
Newt: "I'm a very idea-oriented candidate." As in: "put poor kids to work swabbing out toilets in public schools."
your kids first, newt - to set the example
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:26:20pm |
re: #3 EmmmieG
Gingrich: Pay off Marianne
Romney: Learn more jokes
Santorum: Kill the internet
Paul: Buy up the old newsletters
Too bad they didn't think to do these before they got bit in the ass...
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:26:28pm |
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FreedomMoon Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:26:31pm |
Newt-"I favor English as the official language of government" WTF does that mean? A statement that means nothing but for some reason is raw meat to the base.
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:27:16pm |
re: #14 Charles
Newt: "I'm a very idea-oriented candidate." As in: "put poor kids to work swabbing out toilets in public schools."
Sure you are, Newt, but it's just that your "ideas" fucking suck.
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krypto Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:27:22pm |
Special immigration rights for people who signed up for a church!
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:27:25pm |
We used to have local groups here in Alabama, but the SPLC sued them to death.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:27:31pm |
And Newt's support from the xenophobes just plummeted.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:27:37pm |
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Altermite Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:27:41pm |
You know, if I had to choose someone as winning this debate, it might well be Newt.
Ignoring Obama, SNL, the Daily Show, etc. that is.
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:27:59pm |
re: #27 tacuba14
Newt-"I favor English as the official language of government" WTF does that mean? A statement that means nothing but for some reason is raw meat to the base.
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Lidane Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:28:13pm |
re: #27 tacuba14
Newt-"I favor English as the official language of government" WTF does that mean? A statement that means nothing but for some reason is raw meat to the base.
We can't let those furriners with their non-English come here and live in Real Murika.
Why do you hate America?
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FreedomMoon Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:28:21pm |
"Build the fence dangitignittititittt!!11!!"
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jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:28:28pm |
Andy Borowitz @BorowitzReport
Romney: "All illegals would have a 10-year waiting period where they would do yard work at my house."
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:28:56pm |
They can't go back home. They're killing people there.
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krypto Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:29:25pm |
re: #14 Charles
Newt: "I'm a very idea-oriented candidate." As in: "put poor kids to work swabbing out toilets in public schools."
During his earlier history his other great idea, also released to the public around Christmas time, was to take poor kids away from their parents and put them into orphanages.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:29:31pm |
Freepers are turning the birther searchlight on Santorum's dad.
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engineer cat Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:29:52pm |
"I favor English as the official language of government"
but what about all those years i spent studying goobletygook and doubletalk?
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:30:16pm |
re: #48 engineer dog
"I favor English as the official language of government"
but what about all those years i spent studying goobletygook and doubletalk?
asd akdkja;lk asdkfa;sdkf loivnq;rlk[a[/.
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jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:30:50pm |
Andy Borowitz @BorowitzReport
Gingrich: "Under my plan, immigrant women would gain citizenship by marrying me."
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aagcobb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:31:21pm |
Frothy, almost no-one can migrate here legally.
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engineer cat Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:31:32pm |
paying social security taxes that you can't hope to get back is breaking the law??
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:31:52pm |
The first Americans were 'illegal' to the US.
;)
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:32:12pm |
Well Rick, I've got an idea, perhaps we could allow them to become legal immigrants under the same, far more lenient methods that your grandfather did.
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FreedomMoon Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:32:14pm |
Oh Santorum, sore: #50 jaunte
Andy Borowitz @BorowitzReport
Gingrich: "Under my plan, immigrant women would gain citizenship by marrying me."
It's clear his wife Callista is cool beans with the idea of an open marriage.
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Alexzander Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:32:55pm |
Is it just me, or is this debate dominated by Santorum and Gingrich with respect to on screen time? It feels like Romney comes in a close third, with Ron Paul being ignored again.
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Altermite Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:32:55pm |
Romney agrees with everyone, sooner or later. Just ask him!
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BongCrodny Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:33:24pm |
Very tentative applause there for "We love immigration," Mitt.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:33:27pm |
re: #53 Varek Raith
The first Americans were 'illegal' to the US.
;)
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jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:33:35pm |
Wait long enough, and you can be a nativist, too!
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compound idaho Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:34:38pm |
re: #14 Charles
Newt: "I'm a very idea-oriented candidate." As in: "put poor kids to work swabbing out toilets in public schools."
My first job way swabbing out toilets. I think most every time I take a leak.
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FreedomMoon Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:34:57pm |
What this issue comes down to is, who can say "build the fence" the loudest and how far they're willing to go to break up a family sending mom and dad home.
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jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:35:05pm |
Yeah, Ron, we're really suffering from taking care of people in Texas.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:35:13pm |
Wait, Ron was on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border when he was in the military? Back in the 70's?
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darthstar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:35:20pm |
Want to solve the illegal immigrant problem? Give them the right to vote. Then they'd be coming across the border strapped to the roof of Romney's car.
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:35:28pm |
re: #67 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Wait, Ron was on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border when he was in the military? Back in the 70's?
Commie!
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Altermite Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:35:39pm |
That might be the biggest, most obvious pander yet.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:35:43pm |
re: #67 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Wait, Ron was on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border when he was in the military? Back in the 70's?
As an Air Force flight surgeon?
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Mocking Jay Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:36:03pm |
re: #67 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Wait, Ron was on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border when he was in the military? Back in the 70's?
I thought that sounded weird too.
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:36:10pm |
re: #47 Decatur Deb
Freepers are turning the birther searchlight on Santorum's dad.
Are they trying to insinuate that Rick's not a natural-born citizen, because his dad was an immigrant? Didn't they fail spectacularly at trying that trick with President Obama?
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aagcobb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:36:41pm |
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darthstar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:37:05pm |
Tonight's biggest loser (next to Romney)? John King.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:37:08pm |
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BongCrodny Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:37:18pm |
Is it me, or does Newt start every sentence like he needs to burp first?
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Altermite Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:38:11pm |
re: #37 Altermite
Not that I agree with him. But he is doing some actual debating.
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jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:38:18pm |
@davidfrum
Ron Paul not mentioning his fear that a border fence wd trap Americans inside the country
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:38:22pm |
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Petero1818 Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:38:46pm |
WTF, Romney is not questioned on integrity? Integrity is at the heart of the flip flop label that he has worn for years.
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Romantic Heretic Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:38:51pm |
re: #56 tacuba14
Oh Santorum, so
It's clear his wife Callista is cool beans with the idea of an open marriage.
He's probably paid her enough to be cool with it.
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:38:57pm |
re: #79 BongCrodny
Is it me, or does Newt start every sentence like he needs to burp first?
Well, the man is full of hot air...
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Lidane Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:39:10pm |
Just posted by a friend of mine on FB:
Geez...would someone please magnetize the floor at the debate so Romney will stop tap-dancing?
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Lidane Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:39:38pm |
re: #85 Romantic Heretic
He's probably paid her enough to be cool with it.
Unlimited credit at Tiffany will do that for some women.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:39:41pm |
On the right 'Planned Parenthood' has become an automatic dirty word. This is an organization that helps millions of women. Sick.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:39:47pm |
re: #27 tacuba14
Newt-"I favor English as the official language of government" WTF does that mean? A statement that means nothing but for some reason is raw meat to the base.
English IS the language of government in the U.S.
That doesn't change if they print up some forms in Vietnamese so people can figure out what the hell is going on.
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engineer cat Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:39:57pm |
somehow i suspect the audience isn't getting the fact that all of the candidates are proving decisively what outrageous liars the other candidates are
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Altermite Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:39:59pm |
'This is not the time to doubt peoples' words or integrity. Especially mine. Feel free to question Newt's, SuperPAC.'
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jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:40:32pm |
re: #91 SanFranciscoZionist
Another lie that he knows is a lie.
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BongCrodny Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:41:01pm |
Rick Santorum comes across like he has absolutely no sense of humor.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:41:06pm |
Yes, innocent human lives are protected...until they're out of the womb, then they're on their own.
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:41:12pm |
re: #91 SanFranciscoZionist
English IS the language of government in the U.S.
That doesn't change if they print up some forms in Vietnamese so people can figure out what the hell is going on.
But, but, that's kowtowing to PC multiculturalism, dontchaknow?
///bleccchhh
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jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:41:25pm |
Andy Borowitz @BorowitzReport
Gingrich: "I believe that wife begins at insemination."
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:41:50pm |
re: #94 ElCapitanAmerica
This is not a good debate for Mitt.
Understatement of the evening. Newt and Santorum are taking turns slapping him around.
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ElCapitanAmerica Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:42:06pm |
Santorum is gunning for Gingrich. He hits Romney but he really wants to sink Newt.
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Lidane Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:42:07pm |
re: #94 ElCapitanAmerica
This is not a good debate for Mitt.
They never are. He's trying to connect with a party base that hates him on principle.
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Alexzander Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:42:36pm |
re: #101 ElCapitanAmerica
Santorum is gunning for Gingrich. He hits Romney but he really wants to sink Newt.
There can only be one...anti-Romney.
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Mocking Jay Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:42:49pm |
Christ, the front-runner sounds like he's fighting for his life.
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:43:26pm |
re: #104 Alexzander
There can only be one...anti-Romney.
Let's give them all big honkin' claymores, play some Queen, and let them fight it out.
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Lidane Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:43:30pm |
re: #106 JasonA
Christ, the front-runner sounds like he's fighting for his life.
He is. Even if he wins the nomination, the party base hate him and won't vote for him.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:43:38pm |
Gee, you think the audience likes Paul?
///
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jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:43:40pm |
@TUSK81
Fun GOP fact: Conservative hero Ronald Reagan granted amnesty to three million "illegals."
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ElCapitanAmerica Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:43:44pm |
Romney; There was a bill for the morning after pill for ... teenagers ... I don't remember what age ...
Romney: I respect your record, I expect you respect mine.
I can't wait to see a Romney / Obama debate.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:44:13pm |
re: #96 BongCrodny
Rick Santorum comes across like he has absolutely no sense of humor.
That's because Rick Santorum has absolutely no sense of humor.
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Alexzander Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:44:13pm |
LOL @ Ron Paul.
Someone needs to make a .gif of him waving his arms around right there.
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ElCapitanAmerica Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:44:24pm |
Hahahaha the Paulians ... HEY ASK OUR CANDIDATE TOO!!!!
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BongCrodny Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:44:39pm |
re: #108 talon_262
Let's give them all big honkin' claymores, play some Queen, and let them fight it out.
"TWO DERPS ENTER...ONE DERP LEAVES!"
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Mocking Jay Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:44:49pm |
re: #109 Lidane
He is. Even if he wins the nomination, the party base hate him and won't vote for him.
Yeah, bur he's letting everyone see him sweat.
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krypto Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:45:27pm |
So have the paulians spammed (as in "packed") the audience the way they spam Internet polls?
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:45:39pm |
Uh-oh, Santorum's waltzing into the minefield.
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Mocking Jay Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:45:57pm |
And why does he pronounce it "huspital." Not the first time I heard him do that.
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:46:02pm |
re: #116 Alexzander
LOL @ Ron Paul.
Someone needs to make a .gif of him waving his arms around right there.
Is he trying to get enough attention to get asked a question?
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BongCrodny Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:46:26pm |
Rick, it's because Paul's a crank. He votes against anything that costs money.
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darthstar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:46:33pm |
Ooh...Ron Paul just slaps Santorum across the face with a fetus!
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engineer cat Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:46:34pm |
when do we get to the swimsuit competition?
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Altermite Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:46:54pm |
Someone make a gif of ron paul calling santorum 'oversensitive'. I died.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:46:56pm |
re: #121 krypto
So have the paulians spammed (as in "packed") the audience the way they spam Internet polls?
They're walked in clinging to a long rope... and their blankies.
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ElCapitanAmerica Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:46:59pm |
hahaha
Paul to Santorum " I wasn't even thinking of you. You're being overly sensitive"
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darthstar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:47:53pm |
I'd feel sorry for Romney if he wasn't such a douche bag.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:47:56pm |
Well, just on what I've seen tonight, I'd say Romney's in for a shock on Saturday.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:48:06pm |
re: #128 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Paul's comparing abortion to burglary?
Um....how are the two similar in any way whatsoever?
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aagcobb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:48:10pm |
Strip the Court of jurisdiction, and gov't can do anything; says the libertarian.
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Mocking Jay Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:48:37pm |
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:49:04pm |
re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist
Um...how are the two similar in any way whatsoever?
According to him, they're both "violent crime," and so should be handled by the states.
I guess it makes sense after a frontal lobotomy.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:49:17pm |
So I take it I'm not actually missing anything?
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:49:40pm |
re: #139 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
According to him, they're both "violent crime," and so should be handled by the states.
I guess it makes sense after a frontal lobotomy.
Abortion is legal, and burglary's not violent.
Blink?
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jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:49:43pm |
re: #138 JasonA
Every so often, he says something that tips you to the fact that he's not against state power at all, just federal power.
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Amory Blaine Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:49:49pm |
I hate all these loaded questions that tee up their little soliloquies. How about some real questions backed up by some real data.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:49:52pm |
re: #140 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
So I take it I'm not actually missing anything?
Not unless you wanted to see Romney sweat like a pig under the lights.
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:49:55pm |
re: #140 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
So I take it I'm not actually missing anything?
Depends.
Do you have a dark sense of humor?
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Alexzander Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:49:55pm |
re: #121 krypto
So have the paulians spammed (as in "packed") the audience the way they spam Internet polls?
He has the second highest number of delegates right now and one of the most stable bases of support.
Over on Redstate people are saying things like "Why cant we ignore Ron Paul?"
Ummm, democracy?
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Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:50:02pm |
Romney's still going to be the nominee.
Romney the nominee. It's inevitable.
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Mocking Jay Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:50:07pm |
re: #140 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
So I take it I'm not actually missing anything?
I can't believe you ditched us like that...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:50:39pm |
re: #140 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
So I take it I'm not actually missing anything?
I'm not watching either.
Does that mean we're the winners?
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Kragar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:50:41pm |
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:50:45pm |
re: #147 Charles
Romney's still going to be the nominee.
Romney the nominee. It's inevitable.
Think it's inevitable, but I also think it's gonna be a long primary season from here. Good times.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:50:52pm |
re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist
Um...how are the two similar in any way whatsoever?
Abortion lets some woman rob a man of his property rights in a (male) heir.
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darthstar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:50:57pm |
re: #134 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Well, just on what I've seen tonight, I'd say Romney's in for a shock on Saturday.
Romney will need some intervention on Sunday to keep him on his game for the next few weeks if he doesn't win. Even a win by a handful of votes would seal his "inevitability" narrative...but if he loses by one vote, he'll need to do something better than cry about future Democratic attacks.
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:51:22pm |
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Petero1818 Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:51:29pm |
re: #147 Charles
Romney's still going to be the nominee.
Romney the nominee. It's inevitable.
Yes but he will enter the ring, like a bull stuck by a bunch of sedative laden spears.
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darthstar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:51:38pm |
re: #147 Charles
Romney's still going to be the nominee.
Romney the nominee. It's inevitable.
Maybe, but let's make the fucker wait until June before he knows for sure.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:51:54pm |
Does Iowa have winner-take-all, or proportional?
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:52:09pm |
re: #153 darthstar
Romney will need some intervention on Sunday to keep him on his game for the next few weeks if he doesn't win. Even a win by a handful of votes would seal his "inevitability" narrative...but if he loses by one vote, he'll need to do something better than cry about future Democratic attacks.
Ayep, he loses Saturday, then between that and Iowa, the blood will be in the water.
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aagcobb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:52:16pm |
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:52:28pm |
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DREd Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:52:35pm |
About 30% of South Carolina is black. Tonight's crowd is at about 0%
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darthstar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:52:43pm |
re: #159 EmmmieG
Does Iowa have winner-take-all, or proportional?
All the states are proportional in the GOP primary.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:52:48pm |
re: #161 aagcobb
Proportional
So the flip doesn't really hurt him, and winning by 8 votes never really helped him.
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Alexzander Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:53:07pm |
re: #161 aagcobb
Proportional
It is all proportional until April (for the first time ever) which actually changes everything with respect to inevitability.
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aagcobb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:53:17pm |
re: #166 EmmmieG
So the flip doesn't really hurt him, and winning by 8 votes never really helped him.
Correct, its just perception and spin.
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Major Tom Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:53:48pm |
Way to fight radicalism by stirring up fear.
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darthstar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:53:52pm |
re: #166 EmmmieG
So the flip doesn't really hurt him, and winning by 8 votes never really helped him.
It changes the 2-0 and possibly 3-0 narrative. If Gingrich wins Saturday, then everyone (except Paul) is 1-2.
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Amory Blaine Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:54:09pm |
Saul Alinsky Radical. What a fucking asshole.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:54:19pm |
re: #156 Amory Blaine
Hows SW TOR?
Not bad. Wife wants to play, so we're canceling her WoW account after dinner and getting her stuff downloading tonight.
| 178 |
krypto Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:54:22pm |
Obama, radicalism? "Saul Alinsky radical"???
Is Newt nuts? Is that audience nuts to believe that?
| 179 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:54:22pm |
re: #164 DREd
About 30% of South Carolina is black. Tonight's crowd is at about 0%
Perhaps they're not Republican?
| 180 |
Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:54:47pm |
♫Obama got Osama
Obama got Osama
Obama got Osama
Obama got Osama♫
| 181 |
Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:54:51pm |
Seriously, how many in that audience even have a clue who Saul Alinsky is anymore?
| 182 |
Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:54:56pm |
re: #178 krypto
Obama, radicalism? "Saul Alinsky radical"???
Is Newt nuts? Is that audience nuts to believe that?
No
Yes
| 183 |
aagcobb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:54:58pm |
re: #178 krypto
Obama, radicalism? "Saul Alinsky radical"???
Is Newt nuts? Is that audience nuts to believe that?
That is a basic truth to the Base.
| 184 |
Kragar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:54:58pm |
re: #178 krypto
Obama, radicalism? "Saul Alinsky radical"???
Is Newt nuts? Is that audience nuts to believe that?
Yes, and yes.
| 185 |
Altermite Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:54:59pm |
Romney, starting your statements by agreeing with everything your opponents said is not a good way to win a debate.
| 186 |
DREd Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:55:15pm |
I'd like to pursue my happiness by smoking pot and gambling on football. Can I do that under the Mittens administration?
| 187 |
Mocking Jay Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:55:18pm |
re: #177 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Not bad. Wife wants to play, so we're canceling her WoW account after dinner and getting her stuff downloading tonight.
What server are you on?
| 188 |
Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:55:32pm |
Romney bitching about entitlement is truly a sight to behold. It's like Courtney Love bitching about drug abuse.
| 189 |
engineer cat Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:55:47pm |
oh fuck you mitt and your "what obama believes"
shove it up your ass
| 190 |
BongCrodny Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:55:50pm |
I've heard more Republicans cite Alinsky's name than I ever have Democrats.
Except, of course, when we're all making stupid Alinsky puns.
| 191 |
jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:56:04pm |
Entitled rich man's son criticizing entitlement.
| 192 |
Kragar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:56:05pm |
re: #181 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Seriously, how many in that audience even have a clue who Saul Alinsky is anymore?
Well, the guys on Talk Radio make him sound like the Devil Incarnate, and thats good enough for them.
| 193 |
krypto Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:56:24pm |
Except maybe decades ago when Alinsky was still alive, I've personally heard Alinsky even being mentioned only by rightwingers.
| 194 |
Alexzander Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:56:27pm |
The snow in Seattle has made things post-apocalyptic.
I just saw someone drive up the snow-covered barren street in a four wheeler/ATV.
| 195 |
BongCrodny Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:56:27pm |
re: #188 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Romney bitching about entitlement is truly a sight to behold. It's like Courtney Love bitching about drug abuse.
Billy Joel bitching about traffic laws!
| 196 |
freetoken Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:56:56pm |
Well, I just tuned in.
Seems I haven't missed much.
| 198 |
Altermite Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:57:08pm |
re: #190 BongCrodny
I've heard more Republicans cite Alinsky's name than I ever have Democrats.
Except, of course, when we're all making stupid Alinsky puns.
The only time I've seen alinksy's name used by democrats was as part of the interview process for a political group. It was basically used to weed out trouble makers.
| 199 |
darthstar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:57:15pm |
re: #180 Varek Raith
♫Obama got Osama
Obama got Osama
Obama got Osama
Obama got Osama♫
National Defense is no longer a relevant campaign topic...because Obama got Osama.
| 201 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:57:23pm |
re: #180 Varek Raith
♫Obama got Osama
Obama got Osama
Obama got Osama
Obama got Osama♫
LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LA LA RONALD REAGAN RONALD REAGAN RONALD REAGAN RONALD REAGAN RONALD REAGAN
| 203 |
Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:57:25pm |
Santorum comes...
I'm goin' to hell if I go any farther with that.
/
| 204 |
Kragar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:57:38pm |
re: #187 JasonA
What server are you on?
Empress Teta probably. The first one I tried showed as a standard pop, but got really laggy and showed up as heavy later, so we're hunting around for the best connection.
| 205 |
jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:57:45pm |
I wish King would ask an evolution question. Make them deny more science.
| 206 |
Romantic Heretic Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:57:58pm |
re: #115 SanFranciscoZionist
That's because Rick Santorum has absolutely no sense of humor.
At least not one he can show in public.
| 207 |
BongCrodny Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:58:04pm |
| 208 |
Amory Blaine Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:58:12pm |
One thing is for certain. These republicans want to do away with SSI.
| 209 |
Kragar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:58:45pm |
re: #199 darthstar
National Defense is no longer a relevant campaign topic...because Obama got Osama.
"Obama is weak on defense because he hasn't invaded Iran yet."
Wait for it...
| 210 |
compound idaho Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:58:55pm |
re: #186 DREd
I'd like to pursue my happiness by smoking pot and gambling on football. Can I do that under the Mittens administration?
Paul administration? Yes!
| 211 |
Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:59:00pm |
So, who do I call/write/email to get the last 2 hours of my life back?
| 213 |
jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 6:59:55pm |
Larry Sabato @LarrySabato
Summary of Romney close: "I'm the nominee & you all know it."
| 214 |
Alexzander Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:00:07pm |
re: #202 Decatur Deb
Santorum comes.
Yeah Santorum really came hard at Gingrich tonight.
They really mixed it up.
| 215 |
freetoken Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:00:12pm |
I just heard the last two sentences of Romney's plea, and Santorum's last words.
That was enough.
| 216 |
Kragar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:00:51pm |
| 217 |
MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:01:41pm |
re: #214 Alexzander
Yeah Santorum really came hard at Gingrich tonight.
They really mixed it up.
Frothy...
| 218 |
Amory Blaine Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:01:55pm |
re: #177 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Not bad. Wife wants to play, so we're canceling her WoW account after dinner and getting her stuff downloading tonight.
I'm thinking about cancelling my WOW account. I have one to get together with my nephew who lives far away. But he's been gettin' into girls lately and I'm lookin' for a new game..
| 219 |
Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:01:59pm |
re: #214 Alexzander
Yeah Santorum really came hard at Gingrich tonight.
They really mixed it up.
Gay.
/
| 220 |
Olsonist Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:02:00pm |
re: #212 Varek Raith
Well, Romney sure as hell didn't win.
Inevitability is the passive aggressive form of winning.
[good thing I can edit]
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:03:58pm |
re: #212 Varek Raith
Well, Romney sure as hell didn't win.
♫He's still the nominee.
He's still the nominee.
He's still the nominee.
He's still the nominee.
He's still the nominee.♫
Ah, what fun.
| 223 |
aagcobb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:05:03pm |
Newt had to be thrilled the open marriage question came first. He knocked it out of the park.
| 224 |
MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:05:34pm |
re: #222 Varek Raith
♫He's still the nominee.
He's still the nominee.
He's still the nominee.
He's still the nominee.
He's still the nominee.♫Ah, what fun.
A few more rounds of the back-and-forth like this and we might wind up with a brokered convention.
What says y'all?
| 225 |
HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:05:36pm |
The more I hear/see of Romney the less I think he'll be a good GE candidate. If the guy could even fake empathy with the American people, maybe but he just comes across as I'm better than you and tough shit that you're in a tough spot.
| 226 |
engineer cat Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:05:45pm |
it's true newt has got that creepy richard nixon smile
or some kind of grimace meant to be taken as a smile
| 227 |
Achilles Tang Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:06:05pm |
re: #74 talon_262
Are they trying to insinuate that Rick's not a natural-born citizen, because his dad was an immigrant? Didn't they fail spectacularly at trying that trick with President Obama?
Wasn't Mitt's dad also an immigrant, from Mexico, although his grandad was an emigrant, from the US.
| 228 |
Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:06:15pm |
re: #223 aagcobb
Newt had to be thrilled the open marriage question came first. He knocked it out of the park.
By doing what he always does: Attacking the messenger for daring to question him.
| 229 |
MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:07:29pm |
re: #227 Naso Tang
Wasn't Mitt's dad also an immigrant, from Mexico, although his grandad was an emigrant, from the US.
Mitt's dad was a natural-born citizen by virtue of his parents being American citizens, who just happened to have immigrated to Mexico for a while.
| 230 |
engineer cat Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:07:29pm |
looks to me like the Quadrennial Republican South Carolina Poo Flang is a-gonna go on th' road this year and move on to florida for a while
| 231 |
HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:07:49pm |
re: #227 Naso Tang
Wasn't Mitt's dad also an immigrant, from Mexico, although his grandad was an emigrant, from the US.
Yeah George Romney was born in Mexico City. From what I know about the older Mr. Romney, seems like he was a good guy. Younger Romney just oozes opportunist to me.
| 232 |
jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:08:06pm |
The New Yorker review of "King of Bain":
The film is dangerous mainly because it conveys the sense of powerlessness that is truly felt by many Americans during this highly unusual election year. At one point, two sisters or friends—it is not clear which—sit on a couch and talk back and forth about the suffering that took place in Marion, Indiana, when Bain bought a paper company there and shifted its local factory elsewhere. One of the women says cautiously but cheekily that Mitt Romney is not really a supporter of small businesses. Her companion reprimands her: “You’re going to be on the hit list—you know that?”
“He’s a money man,” another Marion resident declares of Romney. “And he’s going to look out for the money people.”
The money people made this film during a cynical, distorted contest for supremacy among themselves. It is not journalism, but it is not the worst piece of demagoguery that we are likely to endure before November, either, about Romney or Obama.
| 233 |
BongCrodny Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:08:46pm |
re: #224 talon_262
A few more rounds of the back-and-forth like this and we might wind up with a brokered convention.
What says y'all?
JEB BUSH WILL SAVE US ALL!
| 235 |
darthstar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:09:32pm |
And now for Morgan Freeman as Dracula taking a bubble bath in a casket.
| 236 |
Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:09:35pm |
re: #231 HappyWarrior
Yeah George Romney was born in Mexico City. From what I know about the older Mr. Romney, seems like he was a good guy. Younger Romney just oozes opportunist to me.
Listening to him up there talking about how he'd been on the "real streets" and had worked for everything he has, was side-splittingly hilarious.
| 237 |
Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:09:40pm |
re: #227 Naso Tang
Wasn't Mitt's dad also an immigrant, from Mexico, although his grandad was an emigrant, from the US.
That depends on your attitude towards borders.
| 238 |
The Ghost of a Flea Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:10:14pm |
re: #226 engineer dog
it's true newt has got that creepy richard nixon smile
or some kind of grimace meant to be taken as a smile
Callback to the evolutionary precursor of the smile: the snarl.
| 239 |
HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:10:35pm |
re: #236 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Listening to him up there talking about how he'd been on the "real streets" and had worked for everything he has, was side-splittingly hilarious.
Yeah, sorry Mitt but when your dad is an automobile executive and governor, you're privileged plain and simple.
| 240 |
Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:10:50pm |
re: #229 talon_262
Mitt's dad was a natural-born citizen by virtue of his parents being American citizens, who just happened to have immigrated to Mexico for a while.
I want to see it, the long form.
| 241 |
freetoken Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:11:50pm |
My Haiku for the day:
Willard Mitt Romney
Easy rhyme with nominee
Still tastes like tofu.
| 242 |
Lidane Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:11:55pm |
The freepers are delusional as usual. These comments in particular made me laugh:
I thought that Rick made the best points, and won the debate. His problem is that I think a successful national politician must be more clever and nuanced with his words. That’s what I love about Sarah Palin, and my own Senator Pat Toomey. He chooses his words with a mind toward the fact that most voters are dummies.
---I have to agree. Newt, Mittens, Ron, then Rick.
As for Calsita, She would be a WORLD of positive difference. Shoot a bag of wholewheat rye bread would be a better first lady than that *itch schlepping in MY house married to an Usurper. See, Obama isn’t a constitutional POTUS and everything he has done is illegal. I also believe he owes EVERY American reimbursement for all the money his twitt of a wife has spent on vacations, as well as a the money wasted by protecting and ferrying around a criminal. I WANT REPARATIONS and JUSTICE!!!
/soapbox
With the exception of Paul, the men on the stage would be FAR better than Obama and his racist wife.
Wow. Just...wow. They're not very bright over there.
| 243 |
Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:12:23pm |
re: #239 HappyWarrior
Yeah, sorry Mitt but when your dad is an automobile executive and governor, you're privileged plain and simple.
And just from reading on Wiki, the man went straight from college to working in investment, as an "up-and-comer." Then he was picked to head up Bain as CEO, with the understanding that if it fell through, he'd get his job back automatically at the home company.
He wasn't just born with a silver spoon, he had the entire cutlery drawer jammed in his mouth.
| 244 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:13:04pm |
re: #239 HappyWarrior
Yeah, sorry Mitt but when your dad is an automobile executive and governor, you're privileged plain and simple.
Such a liar
| 245 |
darthstar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:13:25pm |
re: #241 freetoken
My Haiku for the day:
Willard Mitt Romney
Easy rhyme with nominee
Still tastes like tofu.
Willard Mitt Romney
Easy rhyme with hominy
Can he have the black vote now?
| 247 |
HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:13:33pm |
re: #243 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
And just from reading on Wiki, the man went straight from college to working in investment, as an "up-and-comer." Then he was picked to head up Bain as CEO, with the understanding that if it fell through, he'd get his job back automatically at the home company.
He wasn't just born with a silver spoon, he had the entire cutlery drawer jammed in his mouth.
I tweaked the old Ann Richards quote on George H.W Bush the other night when talking with some friends about Mitt. Mitt's a guy who was born into a grand slam and thinks he hit it.
| 248 |
Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:13:37pm |
re: #242 Lidane
The freepers are delusional as usual. These comments in particular made me laugh:
Wow. Just...wow. They're not very bright over there.
What fun, happy people over there.
///
| 249 |
Mocking Jay Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:15:30pm |
Romney went down tonight as if the man behind the wheel was named Schettino...
| 250 |
Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:16:17pm |
re: #249 JasonA
Romney went down tonight as if the man behind the wheel was named Schettino...
All aboard the failboat!
| 251 |
aagcobb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:16:35pm |
re: #229 talon_262
Mitt's dad was a natural-born citizen by virtue of his parents being American citizens, who just happened to have immigrated to Mexico for a while.
That's not what US v. Wong Kim Ark says. Justice Gray said children born outside US territory to American citizens gain citizenship from a statute passed by Congress, so they are naturalized, not natural born, citizens.
| 252 |
jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:17:11pm |
More cracks found in Airbus A380 wings
The A380 -- developed at an estimated cost of 12 billion euros and built in Britain, France, Germany and Spain -- has enough room on its wings to park 70 cars and a wingspan of 79.8m (261ft 10in).
Uh, guys...
| 253 |
Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:17:44pm |
Intrade did not like Romney's performance tonight.
[Link: www.intrade.com...]
| 254 |
Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:17:50pm |
re: #247 HappyWarrior
I tweaked the old Ann Richards quote on George H.W Bush the other night when talking with some friends about Mitt. Mitt's a guy who was born into a grand slam and thinks he hit it.
I think the expression goes "born on third base and thinks he hit a triple"
| 255 |
freetoken Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:18:30pm |
re: #253 Decatur Deb
Can you summarize what Willard did tonight that has disappointed some?
| 256 |
Petero1818 Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:18:41pm |
John Sununu just said that he was surprised Newt's head fit on the stage.
| 257 |
Lidane Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:19:04pm |
re: #255 freetoken
Can you summarize what Willard did tonight that has disappointed some?
He showed up.
| 258 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:19:13pm |
re: #242 Lidane
The freepers are delusional as usual. These comments in particular made me laugh:
Wow. Just...wow. They're not very bright over there.
Were fucked. I can't believe. This is prob my neighbor.
| 259 |
HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:19:19pm |
re: #254 Alouette
I think the expression goes "born on third base and thinks he hit a triple"
Yeah as I said I tweaked it. H.W Bush had some arrogance to him too but he also was the Navy's youngest fighter pilot in WWII I believe when he was only 19. Romney is probably the most arrogant guy I've ever seen seek the high office. Outside Newt who thinks it was his patriotism that led him to commit adultery.
| 260 |
freetoken Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:19:38pm |
| 261 |
Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:20:14pm |
re: #255 freetoken
Can you summarize what Willard did tonight that has disappointed some?
He came to the debate dressed in the clothing that only the truly smart could see.
| 262 |
Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:20:14pm |
re: #255 freetoken
Can you summarize what Willard did tonight that has disappointed some?
Hesitation words. Until tonight I thought he would be a bigger problem for the Pres than is Gingrich.
| 263 |
engineer cat Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:20:25pm |
thank you david gergen for pointing out gingrich's gross hypocrisy in attacking a reporter for the type of personal sex story that he himself promoted vigorously against clinton for year
while he was banging his mistress on his desk in the capitol thank you very fucking much
don't these fucking s.c. republican voters have functioning memories?
| 264 |
Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:21:09pm |
re: #259 HappyWarrior
Yeah as I said I tweaked it. H.W Bush had some arrogance to him too but he also was the Navy's youngest fighter pilot in WWII I believe when he was only 19. Romney is probably the most arrogant guy I've ever seen seek the high office. Outside Newt who thinks it was his patriotism that led him to commit adultery.
I remember when Mitt's dad was governor of Michigan. He was not Presidential material due to the "not born in the USA" thing, oh and the Mormon thing.
Mitt is not Presidential material due to being a douche.
| 265 |
BongCrodny Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:21:46pm |
Tofu burgers with mayonnaise on white bread.
Mmmm-mmmmmm.
| 266 |
Lidane Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:21:50pm |
re: #263 engineer dog
don't these fucking s.c. republican voters have functioning memories?
If they did, NONE of the candidates in the race would stand a chance.
| 267 |
jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:21:56pm |
re: #263 engineer dog
Gingrich's gall is large enough to be divided in three parts.
| 268 |
Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:22:10pm |
re: #263 engineer dog
thank you david gergen for pointing out gingrich's gross hypocrisy in attacking a reporter for the type of personal sex story that he himself promoted vigorously against clinton for year
while he was banging his mistress on his desk in the capitol thank you very fucking much
don't these fucking s.c. republican voters have functioning memories?
They do, but Gingrich got right with God and received forgiveness, so they're granting him a pass on this one.
//
| 269 |
freetoken Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:22:29pm |
re: #262 Decatur Deb
Hesitation words. Until tonight I thought he would be a bigger problem for the Pres than is Gingrich.
So it was oration/homiletics that won or lost the day?
Mitt has always had a problem trying to sound like a fire brand. He is by nature a quiet spoken, boardroom type. He can lecture with some skill, but trying to express emotion on stage makes him look like he is constipated.
| 270 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:22:29pm |
re: #263 engineer dog
thank you david gergen for pointing out gingrich's gross hypocrisy in attacking a reporter for the type of personal sex story that he himself promoted vigorously against clinton for year
while he was banging his mistress on his desk in the capitol thank you very fucking much
don't these fucking s.c. republican voters have functioning memories?
Gergen comes through.
| 271 |
HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:23:36pm |
re: #263 engineer dog
thank you david gergen for pointing out gingrich's gross hypocrisy in attacking a reporter for the type of personal sex story that he himself promoted vigorously against clinton for year
while he was banging his mistress on his desk in the capitol thank you very fucking much
don't these fucking s.c. republican voters have functioning memories?
Seriously. How the hell does the Republican party have the nerve to sell themselves as moral arbitrators and deride the Democrats as lacking morals when they have people like Gingrich in prominent roles. One thing I hated growing up was my conservative friends acting like Bill Clinton invented infidelity by politicians. It was like are you insane?
| 272 |
Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:23:48pm |
re: #269 freetoken
So it was oration/homiletics that won or lost the day?
Mitt has always had a problem trying to sound like a fire brand. He is by nature a quiet spoken, boardroom type. He can lecture with some skill, but trying to express emotion on stage makes him look like he is constipated.
He was nervous and on several occasions seemed like Rick 'OOPS' Perry...
| 273 |
engineer cat Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:23:54pm |
| 274 |
Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:23:56pm |
re: #269 freetoken
So it was oration/homiletics that won or lost the day?
Mitt has always had a problem trying to sound like a fire brand. He is by nature a quiet spoken, boardroom type. He can lecture with some skill, but trying to express emotion on stage makes him look like he is constipated.
Yes. That really showed when he was able to present a prepared statement. When he had to parry, he collapsed.
| 275 |
jamesfirecat Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:24:11pm |
re: #247 HappyWarrior
I tweaked the old Ann Richards quote on George H.W Bush the other night when talking with some friends about Mitt. Mitt's a guy who was born into a grand slam and thinks he hit it.
Born on third base and thinks he hit a triple says it a bit more clearly in my book.
| 276 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:24:58pm |
re: #264 Alouette
I heard a reference to a bad gaff Sr.. Romney made. Any input?
| 277 |
HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:25:31pm |
re: #275 jamesfirecat
Born on third base and thinks he hit a triple says it a bit more clearly in my book.
Yeah it does. I guess my variation was to illustrate the fact that Mitt's particularly arrogant. But that's why Ann Richards' saying will be remembered more than mine. I am sure someone out there far wittier than I will come up with something good to describe him.
| 278 |
HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:25:56pm |
re: #276 Stanley Sea
I heard a reference to a bad gaff Sr.. Romney made. Any input?
Was it the brainwashing gaffe? That was a dumb one.
| 279 |
Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:26:25pm |
re: #274 Decatur Deb
Yes. That really showed when he was able to present a prepared statement. When he had to parry, he collapsed.
He just couldn't counter Rick and Newt.
It was a terrible debate for him.
| 280 |
freetoken Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:26:30pm |
re: #274 Decatur Deb
Yes. That really showed when he was able to present a prepared statement. When he had to parry, he collapsed.
Some people just don't do well in that environment. Mitt is no doubt a sharp, well educated person, but he is so far out of his comfort zone in regards on what he has to campaign (essentially wingnut-lite) that it really shows when he has to insincerely defend the wingnut-lite salad dressing.
| 281 |
darthstar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:26:33pm |
re: #278 HappyWarrior
Was it the brainwashing gaffe? That was a dumb one.
That was his gaffe. Didn't score well, apparently.
| 282 |
Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:27:11pm |
re: #271 HappyWarrior
Seriously. How the hell does the Republican party have the nerve to sell themselves as moral arbitrators and deride the Democrats as lacking morals when they have people like Gingrich in prominent roles. One thing I hated growing up was my conservative friends acting like Bill Clinton invented infidelity by politicians. It was like are you insane?
The unwritten rule goes that Republicans getting caught with their pants down is reprehensible, but forgivable if they seek forgiveness and promise never to do it again. While a Democrat getting caught as such is just proof of how liberals have no morals and will screw anything that moves, which is why they must be run out of office as the Godless heathens they are.
Make sense now?
///
| 283 |
jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:27:55pm |
Via Gus_802:
Public Policy Polling: Gingrich maintains 6 point lead
For the first time in our South Carolina tracking this month his favorability is better than Romney's, with 53% of voters holding a positive opinion of him compared to 51% for his chief competitor.
Gingrich's lead with evangelicals held steady today at 40-22 over Romney. He's also doing well with Tea Party voters (46-21), registered Republicans (38-30), voters describing themselves as very conservative (41-21), men (39-27), and voters in the Upstate (36-25).
Romney is leading with non-evangelicals (39-30), independents (30-26), moderates (44-23), and women (32-31). The problem for him is that all of those groups are a minority within the South Carolina Republican electorate.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:28:32pm |
re: #282 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
The unwritten rule goes that Republicans getting caught with their pants down is reprehensible, but forgivable if they seek forgiveness and promise never to do it again. While a Democrat getting caught as such is just proof of how liberals have no morals and will screw anything that moves, which is why they must be run out of office as the Godless heathens they are.
Make sense now?
///
Yep. Seriously can you imagine a Democratic presidential candidate with Newt's past with women?
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darthstar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:28:36pm |
re: #279 Varek Raith
He just couldn't counter Rick and Newt.
It was a terrible debate for him.
Newt took the momentum with the first question. Before the audience sat down from their standing ovation the camera panned the candidates and Mitt looked sunk...like someone just told him they spit in his milkshake after he'd taken a couple of big sips.
He was a deer in the headlights for a good hour tonight. It was perfect.
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darthstar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:29:39pm |
re: #283 jaunte
Via Gus_802:
Public Policy Polling: Gingrich maintains 6 point lead
The question is, will Mitt start discounting the importance of South Carolina before Saturday? You know his speech writers are already working on a "Florida will decide this" concession speech for him.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:30:30pm |
Romney is leading with non-evangelicals (39-30), independents (30-26), moderates (44-23), and women (32-31). The problem for him is that all of those groups are a minority within the South Carolina Republican electorate.
That's quite a statement: women+independents+moderates+nonevangelicals = a minority in SC GOP politics.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:30:43pm |
If it's true that Newt Gingrich asked his second wife for an "open marriage," chances are very good that there's a whole lot of freaky shit in Newt's closet.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:30:45pm |
re: #229 talon_262
Mitt's dad was a natural-born citizen by virtue of his parents being American citizens, who just happened to have immigrated to Mexico for a while.
Rick Santorum is a natural-born citizen by virtue of having been born in United States, AND by virtue of his mother having also been born in the United States.
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aagcobb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:31:06pm |
re: #286 darthstar
The question is, will Mitt start discounting the importance of South Carolina before Saturday? You know his speech writers are already working on a "Florida will decide this" concession speech for him.
Its game on if Newt wins. Romney's lead in Florida could shrink fast. His advantage is that its the first real big state with expensive media markets. But Newt's superpac should have lots of money to spend.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:31:23pm |
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:31:34pm |
re: #285 darthstar
Newt took the momentum with the first question. Before the audience sat down from their standing ovation the camera panned the candidates and Mitt looked sunk...like someone just told him they spit in his milkshake after he'd taken a couple of big sips.
He was a deer in the headlights for a good hour tonight. It was perfect.
They tenderized him first with Romneycare, then skewered him on tax returns and let him roast over an open flame for the rest of the debate. There was no chance of him gaining the upper-hand after that.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:31:57pm |
re: #288 Charles
If it's true that Newt Gingrich asked his second wife for an "open marriage," chances are very good that there's a whole lot of freaky shit in Newt's closet.
*Crosses fingers for revelations about Newt being a furry*.
And preemptive apologies to those with weak stomachs.
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jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:32:23pm |
ABC News To Air Ex-Gingrich Wife’s Interview Thursday
Marianne Gingrich recently spoke to ABC News reporter Brian Ross for two hours about her tumultuous relationship with Newt Gingrich. There’s no clear word yet on the specific details she recounted. But The Daily Beast’s Howard Kurtz reports that Marianne didn’t reveal anything in the interview that she hasn’t already said, especially in an August 2010 interview with Esquire. ABC has announced it will air the interview at 11:35 PM eastern Thursday evening.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:32:39pm |
re: #289 SanFranciscoZionist
Rick Santorum is a natural-born citizen by virtue of having been born in United States, AND by virtue of his mother having also been born in the United States.
You know that, and I know that, but Orly might not know that. It's been raised on partisan threads among the rwnj.
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aagcobb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:32:54pm |
re: #289 SanFranciscoZionist
Rick Santorum is a natural-born citizen by virtue of having been born in United States,
AND by virtue of his mother having also been born in the United States.
Fixed. Born in US is all that matters, with very limited exceptions.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:32:57pm |
re: #291 freetoken
Which was...?
About his second ex's accusations, which he responded to by leading the others in slamming the media for daring to run the interview and then ask him questions about it.
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Lidane Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:33:20pm |
re: #288 Charles
If it's true that Newt Gingrich asked his second wife for an "open marriage," chances are very good that there's a whole lot of freaky shit in Newt's closet.
If there is freaky shit, I hope to FSM that there aren't any details offered. There's not enough brain bleach on the planet for that.
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engineer cat Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:33:31pm |
re: #288 Charles
If it's true that Newt Gingrich asked his second wife for an "open marriage," chances are very good that there's a whole lot of freaky shit in Newt's closet.
it seems to tho that every time the voters realize what a creep gingrich is he wins their hearts back by dumping a load of shit on black people or the media or something
they just eat up that hate talk
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jamesfirecat Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:33:58pm |
re: #293 HappyWarrior
*Crosses fingers for revelations about Newt being a furry*.
And preemptive apologies to those with weak stomachs.
///Probably a "feathery", American Eagle and all that.
(No offense intended WindUpBird)
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Mocking Jay Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:34:10pm |
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:34:52pm |
re: #300 jamesfirecat
///Probably a "feathery", American Eagle and all that.
(No offense intended WindUpBird)
Nah--If Newt is furry, I see a hedge-hog.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:35:00pm |
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:35:00pm |
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ProGunLiberal Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:35:18pm |
2 big pieces of news today:
1) A tropical storm hit Mozambique today, killing 5 and affecting thousands upon thousands of others. It is Mozambique's first storm in 27 years
2) An attempted coup by Hardline Islamist Officers was foiled, with the main attempted instigators under arrest.
Edit: Number 2 refers to Bangladesh. Derp on my part.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:35:21pm |
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HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:35:36pm |
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freetoken Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:35:50pm |
re: #297 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
About his second ex's accusations, which he responded to by leading the others in slamming the media for daring to run the interview and then ask him questions about it.
Well, the sad thing is the other candidates know they can get farther with the religious right in SC by siding with a serial philanderer against the evil "main stream media" rather than pointing out how pathologically hypocritical Newt has been.
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engineer cat Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:35:51pm |
programming note:
aha - i see that the bitmap for the greyed-out state of the 'Post It' button has been changed from a pill button to a rounded-corner-square image
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Mocking Jay Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:36:54pm |
Anderson's doing "Keeping 'em honest." This could go until 2 AM.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:37:13pm |
re: #309 freetoken
Well, the sad thing is the other candidates know they can get farther with the religious right in SC by siding with a serial philanderer against the evil "main stream media" rather than pointing out how pathologically hypocritical Newt has been.
They couldn't get anywhere once he'd made the issue about the media rather than the accusations. He'd obtained "victim" status by then and attacking him for being a hypocritical bastard would have just elicited boos from the audience.
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darthstar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:37:17pm |
re: #288 Charles
If it's true that Newt Gingrich asked his second wife for an "open marriage," chances are very good that there's a whole lot of freaky shit in Newt's closet.
Save that for the general. Everyone knows Newt's a dirt bag. There was a story of one woman who was giving him a blow-job in his driveway when his daughter got home from school, and he just had her keep sucking while he smiled and told his daughter to run along inside so she wouldn't see.
But nobody cares about that...unless we learn Obama slow danced with someone not Michele...
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:38:11pm |
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Robert O. Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:38:26pm |
re: #283 jaunte
I had posted as early as this morning about Gingrich's surge, which has the latest polls at Real Clear Politics showing Gingrich ahead of Romney, and I was giddying how Romney-bashing might be working (the stuff posted by Gingrich's Super PAC is quite nasty!), and how this may prolong the GOP nomination. But that was before "Open Marriage" completely saturated the air waves! (Goes to show how fast things change) For South Carolina, this is one big bombshell to drop. Now, I am not sure how much this will affect Gingrich given he has no time to react, and no time for the story to die down. Romney's chances of winning SC just shot up a huge amount in my opinion.
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Big Joe Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:38:29pm |
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HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:38:32pm |
I just love how Newt's being made out to be a victim by this by the same people who slam every little thing Obama does.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:38:48pm |
re: #314 darthstar
Save that for the general. Everyone knows Newt's a dirt bag. There was a story of one woman who was giving him a blow-job in his driveway when his daughter got home from school, and he just had her keep sucking while he smiled and told his daughter to run along inside so she wouldn't see.
But nobody cares about that...unless we learn Obama slow danced with someone not Michele...
Well, I have heard that Obama has not one, but two black children. If this gets out he's toast.
//
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:38:48pm |
re: #317 mracb
I don't think you have standing to ask for bans over sick sexual mental imagery.
//
Dammit!
:P
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Mentis Fugit Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:39:03pm |
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freetoken Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:39:11pm |
If I were a political advisor to Mitt and he asked me how he could do better with the Evangelical base, here would be my recommendation:
Find an attractive (and that is a requirement) young (but not too young) female in your organization; have a fling with her; get current wife to divorce you; and thus you have to leave the Mormon church; marry the young flirt; come out publicly that Jesus told you that you sinned, and now you're forgiven, and everything is a-ok with you in heaven.
Then, then, Mitt would win the religious-right base vote.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:39:31pm |
Ouch. In the last few minutes Intrade has put Newt ahead (SC Primary) for the first time ever.
[Link: www.intrade.com...]
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HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:40:06pm |
re: #322 freetoken
If I were a political advisor to Mitt and he asked me how he could do better with the Evangelical base, here would be my recommendation:
Find an attractive (and that is a requirement) young (but not too young) female in your organization; have a fling with her; get current wife to divorce you; and thus you have to leave the Mormon church; marry the young flirt; come out publicly that Jesus told you that you sinned, and now you're forgiven, and everything is a-ok with you in heaven.
Then, then, Mitt would win the religious-right base vote.
His ratings among evangelicals would skyrocket anyhow.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:41:54pm |
re: #316 Robert O.
I had posted as early as this morning about Gingrich's surge, which has the latest polls at Real Clear Politics showing Gingrich ahead of Romney, and I was giddying how Romney-bashing might be working (the stuff posted by Gingrich's Super PAC is quite nasty!), and how this may prolong the GOP nomination. But that was before "Open Marriage" completely saturated the air waves! (Goes to show how fast things change) For South Carolina, this is one big bombshell to drop. Now, I am not sure how much this will affect Gingrich given he has no time to react, and no time for the story to die down. Romney's chances of winning SC just shot up a huge amount in my opinion.
You're probably right, but I personally find an open marriage a lot less offensive then cheating on and divorcing two sick wives. I just can't see how it's worse then what's already know. Newt's firmly established himself as the person who will tell that Kenyan Usurper in the WH what's what. And that's what the GOP base wants more then anything else in a candidate.
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jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:42:12pm |
Hot new twitter tag today: #swingrich
William K. Wolfrum @Wolfrum
Nothing says "I'm loving America too much!!!" more than asking your wife for an open marriage.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:42:19pm |
re: #319 moderatelyradicalliberal
Well, I have heard that Obama has not one, but two black children. If this gets out he's toast.
//
Now he thinks he's Jefferson?
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HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:43:04pm |
re: #319 moderatelyradicalliberal
Well, I have heard that Obama has not one, but two black children. If this gets out he's toast.
//
He married a black woman too. The nerve.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:44:03pm |
re: #327 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Now he thinks he's Jefferson?
Oh, he would need a few more black children to achieve that level. And the mothers of his children would have to be half sisters.
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Mocking Jay Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:44:22pm |
Hey, is Rock me like a Herman Cain going to be televised tomorrow?
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:45:22pm |
re: #328 HappyWarrior
He married a black woman too. The nerve.
Nonsense. You don't marry the black mistress. That is simply not done!
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freetoken Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:45:23pm |
I noticed that in Santorum's parting shots he took a dig against "global warming", no doubt to get some resonance with the "base".
The planet does its thing anyway:
NASA Finds 2011 Ninth Warmest Year on Record
The global average surface temperature in 2011 was the ninth warmest since 1880, according to NASA scientists. The finding continues a trend in which nine of the 10 warmest years in the modern meteorological record have occurred since the year 2000.
NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York, which monitors global surface temperatures on an ongoing basis, released an updated analysis that shows temperatures around the globe in 2011 compared to the average global temperature from the mid-20th century. The comparison shows how Earth continues to experience warmer temperatures than several decades ago. The average temperature around the globe in 2011 was 0.92°F (0.51°C) warmer than the mid-20th century baseline.
"We know the planet is absorbing more energy than it is emitting," said GISS director James E. Hansen. "So we are continuing to see a trend toward higher temperatures. Even with the cooling effects of a strong La Niña influence and low solar activity for the past several years, 2011 was one of the 10 warmest years on record."
The difference between 2011 and the warmest year in the GISS record (2010) is 0.22°F (0.12°C). This underscores the emphasis scientists put on the long-term trend of global temperature rise. Because of the large natural variability of climate, scientists do not expect temperatures to rise consistently year after year. However, they do expect a continuing temperature rise over decades.
The first 11 years of the 21st century experienced notably higher temperatures compared to the middle and late 20th century, Hansen said. The only year from the 20th century in the top 10 warmest years on record is 1998.
[...]
See also:
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:45:47pm |
re: #329 moderatelyradicalliberal
Oh, he would need a few more black children to achieve that level. And the mothers of his children would have to be half sisters.
Did he ever go back?
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:47:01pm |
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HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:47:14pm |
re: #331 moderatelyradicalliberal
Nonsense. You don't marry the black mistress. That is simply not done!
Yeah if you're going to father black children do it like Strom Thurmond, do it and then make your political career about how blacks should be second class citizens and then die, and then the public can find out but an open marriage with a black woman is completely unacceptable. And worse I hear he likes that "gangster" sport basketball (Limbaugh actually said this about basketball which will shock my 60 year old Dad to find out that he's a gangster in the eyes of the Oxycontin king.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:49:14pm |
re: #335 HappyWarrior
Yeah if you're going to father black children do it like Strom Thurmond, do it and then make your political career about how blacks should be second class citizens and then die, and then the public can find out but an open marriage with a black woman is completely unacceptable. And worse I hear he likes that "gangster" sport basketball (Limbaugh actually said this about basketball which will shock my 60 year old Dad to find out that he's a gangster in the eyes of the Oxycontin king.
Yeah and before it was a gangster sport it was a Jew sport. It never ends with these people. Never.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:49:36pm |
re: #245 darthstar
Willard Mitt Romney
Easy rhyme with hominy
Can he have the black vote now?
Burma Shave.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:50:34pm |
re: #336 moderatelyradicalliberal
Yeah and before it was a gangster sport it was a Jew sport. It never ends with these people. Never.
Meyer Lansky at point baby. Still my favorite game to play pick up. Nothing better.
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engineer cat Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:53:42pm |
ari fleisher:
"we're gonna go into the 4th inning here"
how does an american mess up a baseball metaphor that badly?
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:55:02pm |
re: #333 Decatur Deb
Did he ever go back?
No, he didn't, did he? I think Maria was before Sally.
(Wait, are we talking about Jefferson or Obama?)
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darthstar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:03:04pm |
re: #339 engineer dog
ari fleisher:
"we're gonna go into the 4th inning here"
how does an american mess up a baseball metaphor that badly?
Maybe he was thinking about hockey.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:06:31pm |
re: #340 SanFranciscoZionist
Monticello is a monster cool place to hang out.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:07:33pm |
re: #342 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Monticello is a monster cool place to hang out.
Charlottesville as a whole is. Absolutely beautiful.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:08:05pm |
Why we're doomed #ItHurtzMyBrainzToCountThisHigh:
The National Fish, Wildlife, and Plants Climate Adaptation Strategy
just publicly released (for comments.)
By reading the ES it strikes me that whoever wrote this really didn't have the bigger picture in mind, didn't really make the solid case that needs to be made (not just for the causes of climate change by why the range of effects are so large, thus the breadth of adaptation required so large) and more importantly this "strategy" really isn't a new strategy but simply a greenwashing of the old "strategy", which put simply is just this: whatever gets done gets done.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:12:41pm |
re: #329 moderatelyradicalliberal
Oh, he would need a few more black children to achieve that level. And the mothers of his children would have to be half sisters.
Just did a little Wiki-diving... was reading about Sally, Martha and Tommy.
Reading through their "begat's"? Mostly just obits.
Children's mortality was just unthinkable then, at least in modern American terms.
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Jerk Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:20:42pm |
I've been talking with Ron Paul fans, and they are in a total state of denial. Everyone else wants Romney to be the nominee, and they have no plan B.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:21:22pm |
Just opened a box of cereal that the wife bought. "Super Colon Blow" or "Fiber Explosion"... something like that anyway.
When did they start packaging shredded cardboard?
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:23:02pm |
re: #259 HappyWarrior
Yeah as I said I tweaked it. H.W Bush had some arrogance to him too but he also was the Navy's youngest fighter pilot in WWII I believe when he was only 19. Romney is probably the most arrogant guy I've ever seen seek the high office. Outside Newt who thinks it was his patriotism that led him to commit adultery.
Kinda late response, but even though I disagreed with about 90% of his presidency, I could always respect H.W. Bush. I especially appreciated when he went skydiving given his previous experience off Chichi-jima
I only wish the younger had been much more like his father.
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:27:20pm |
re: #347 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Just opened a box of cereal that the wife bought. "Super Colon Blow" or "Fiber Explosion"... something like that anyway.
When did they start packaging shredded cardboard?
Are you sure that you didn't open a bale of packing material instead?
Throw some milk and a little sugar on that shit and it'll be right as rain.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:29:29pm |
re: #349 talon_262
Are you sure that you didn't open a bale of packing material instead?
No. Of that I am not sure.
It looked like the same shit that the crate was filled with that contained the "Major Award" in "A Christmas Story".
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freetoken Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:30:03pm |
re: #346 Jerk
I've been talking with Ron Paul fans, and they are in a total state of denial. Everyone else wants Romney to be the nominee, and they have no plan B.
They're stuck on Plan 9.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:34:04pm |
re: #348 wlewisiii
Kinda late response, but even though I disagreed with about 90% of his presidency, I could always respect H.W. Bush. I especially appreciated when he went skydiving given his previous experience off Chichi-jima
I only wish the younger had been much more like his father.
I don't. George W. Bush may not be as 'book smart' as his father (though he is not an idiot), but he demonstrated far more ability to connect with the common man and was more decisive than his father. Those two qualities, in my opinion, are more important to a president than raw IQ.
Disclaimer: As with all things, there are 4extreme cases to which the principle I just articulated would not apply to.
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jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:42:23pm |
Closing in...
Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich has gained popularity in South Carolina in recent days and is now in a dead heat with Mitt Romney in the Palmetto state, according to a new poll.
Gingrich leads in the latest American Research Group (ARG) poll, conducted January 17-18, with 33 percent. Romney finishes close behind with 32 percent, while Rep. Ron Paul is in third with 19 percent. Former Sen. Rick Santorum earned 9 percent support.
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]
Watch out!
Gingrich's hand ‘always six inches from the self-destruct button’
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freetoken Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:42:40pm |
re: #352 Dark_Falcon
I don't. George W. Bush may not be as 'book smart' as his father (though he is not an idiot), but he demonstrated far more ability to connect with the common man and was more decisive than his father.
That was Karl Rove's packaging of GWB: like breakfast cereal, packaging and marketing makes all the difference.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:44:42pm |
re: #344 freetoken
Why we're doomed #ItHurtzMyBrainzToCountThisHigh:
The National Fish, Wildlife, and Plants Climate Adaptation Strategy
just publicly released (for comments.)
By reading the ES it strikes me that whoever wrote this really didn't have the bigger picture in mind, didn't really make the solid case that needs to be made (not just for the causes of climate change by why the range of effects are so large, thus the breadth of adaptation required so large) and more importantly this "strategy" really isn't a new strategy but simply a greenwashing of the old "strategy", which put simply is just this: whatever gets done gets done.
Them what has, gets. - Milton Friedman
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BishopX Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:44:56pm |
re: #352 Dark_Falcon
I don't. George W. Bush may not be as 'book smart' as his father (though he is not an idiot), but he demonstrated far more ability to connect with the common man and was more decisive than his father. Those two qualities, in my opinion, are more important to a president than raw IQ.
As with all things, there are 4extreme cases to which the principle I just articulated would not apply to.
Bush #43 screwed the pooch several times(Katrina, Valerie Plame, Harriet Meirs, immagration and afganistan) while ignoring the basic problems confronting him (the deficit, the housing bubble, economic problems after 9/11). Bush #41 took a good look at uncomfortable truths, made the right desiscions for it and lost an election.
At the end of the day having the backbone to do what's right instead of what's popular still makes for a better president.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:51:58pm |
re: #164 DREd
About 30% of South Carolina is black. Tonight's crowd is at about 0%
Yeah but who's counting.
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austin_blue Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:55:25pm |
re: #356 BishopX
Bush #43 screwed the pooch several times(Katrina, Valerie Plame, Harriet Meirs, immagration and afganistan) while ignoring the basic problems confronting him (the deficit, the housing bubble, economic problems after 9/11). Bush #41 took a good look at uncomfortable truths, made the right desiscions for it and lost an election.
At the end of the day having the backbone to do what's right instead of what's popular still makes for a better president.
Which is why Obama praises GHWB's foreign policy. It was stout, as is Obama's. But the turd in the punchbowl is, and always will be, the economy.
The Cons blame it all on Obama, but all you have to do is look at Canada's banking system (heavily regulated against derivative speculation and absolutely sound right now) to see that we lost our way during the Clinton/Bush years as far as regulatory control is concerned. We created "money" out of the ether and paid the price.
As Robert Hunter wrote, "If you plant ice, you're gonna harvest wind."
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:58:28pm |
re: #354 freetoken
That was Karl Rove's packaging of GWB: like breakfast cereal, packaging and marketing makes all the difference.
I'd actually argue that most of that connection was genuine. But it is true that George the Younger was lucky enough to have his ace political operative stay alive; unlike George the Elder, whose fortunes suffered greatly from the death of Lee Atwater.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:01:45pm |
re: #352 Dark_Falcon
I don't. George W. Bush may not be as 'book smart' as his father (though he is not an idiot), but he demonstrated far more ability to connect with the common man and was more decisive than his father. Those two qualities, in my opinion, are more important to a president than raw IQ.
Disclaimer: As with all things, there are 4extreme cases to which the principle I just articulated would not apply to.
It doesn't take a lot of brain power to be "decisive" to get other people's children to go kill up a bunch of people on the other side of the world.
Any sociopath not on life support can do that.
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:25:40pm |
re: #356 BishopX
Bush #43 screwed the pooch several times(Katrina, Valerie Plame, Harriet Meirs, immagration and afganistan) while ignoring the basic problems confronting him (the deficit, the housing bubble, economic problems after 9/11). Bush #41 took a good look at uncomfortable truths, made the right desiscions for it and lost an election.
At the end of the day having the backbone to do what's right instead of what's popular still makes for a better president.
Exactly. The bolded part is what I wish his son would have been better at. We might have actually paid for the wars we fought rather than put them on the credit card for our children and grandchildren to pay off.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:40:58pm |
Classic conservative white bigots:
Countdown to white conservatives calling us uppity and n*****s on the air, t-10 and counting.
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jamesfirecat Fri, Jan 20, 2012 4:42:31am |
re: #352 Dark_Falcon
I don't. George W. Bush may not be as 'book smart' as his father (though he is not an idiot), but he demonstrated far more ability to connect with the common man and was more decisive than his father. Those two qualities, in my opinion, are more important to a president than raw IQ.
Disclaimer: As with all things, there are 4extreme cases to which the principle I just articulated would not apply to.
Connecting with people makes you more electable a high HQ and plenty of book learning makes you a better leader.
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