Watching re-runs of The Office.

If I have to watch stupidity, it might as well be amusing stupidity.

Impressive.

Must just be how old I am, but I watch that and think about all the various B&W shots I’d love to try with my large format camera and my old Wollensak triple convertible. It’s pretty enough but gah, can’t you just see the moments with a sheet of film & a red filter?

re: #3 wlewisiii

Heh, Go Big or Go Home, eh?

I love LF images, but the process of carrying the camera really takes dedication.

Dwight Schrute: Girls Scouts? I don’t know. I think it’s kind of dangerous to teach girls leadership skills and self-esteem.

Heh.

I don’t see how Romney can win the nomination, since Chuck Norris supports Gingrich now….

Norris never loses. It is said Norris never goes into competition, that might implicate that there’s a possibility he could lose.

“Half-Dome” is as much of a star of Yosemite as the Eiffel Tower is of Paris, no?

re: #4 freetoken

Heh, Go Big or Go Home, eh?

I love LF images, but the process of carrying the camera really takes dedication.

Of course the irony is that most of my shooting this winter is with my micro-4/3’s Olympus E-PL1. Nice little camera but the reality is if I want to do the real thing, out comes that old 4x5. Square Inches. There is no substitute.

“so, now that the secessionist primary is over, why should people vote for your candidate?”

“doesn’t everybody want the united states to be run like a venture capital firm? why do you hate capitalism?”

“it’s obvious that newt is the only true savior of our people. the other candidates will be allowed to bask in his glory if they don’t annoy Him”

“hey, rick may live in the moral universe of the spanish inquisition, but at least he’s not a crazy fuck like newt!!!”

re: #7 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

“Half-Dome” is as much of a star of Yosemite as the Eiffel Tower is of Paris, no?

Yep. God willing, I’d like to get a chance with a sheet of film, a red filter and a really cloudy sky. Alas, I live in the midwest so that will never happen… :(

re: #1 EmmmieG

Watching re-runs of The Office.

If I have to watch stupidity, it might as well be amusing stupidity.

Never seen it

re: #6 William of Orange

Same Chuck Norris who backed Huck last time around?

Hey, guys? Did we break our marvelous toy?

re: #13 wlewisiii

Hey, guys? Did we break our marvelous toy?

??

The latest NYT editorial nails it:

South Carolina’s Divisive Message

[…]

Newt Gingrich won the primary by a decisive margin of 12.5 percentage points, and there is no mystery about how he did it. Two-thirds of voters interviewed in exit polls said they made their decision on the basis of the two South Carolina debates, where Mr. Gingrich exploited racial resentment and hatred of the news media to connect with furious voters.

[…]

It was Mr. Gingrich who pulled the race into the gutter, where he found considerable support. He repeatedly called Mr. Obama “the greatest food-stamp president in American history,” and lectured a black questioner at Monday’s debate about the amount of federal handouts to blacks, suggesting their work ethic was questionable.

On Thursday, in the derisive tones of a radio talk-show host, he said Mr. Obama’s cabinet looked like Mickey Mouse and Goofy. At that night’s debate, he lashed into the moderator for asking a perfectly reasonable question about his ex-wife’s allegation that he wanted an open marriage, saying it was typical of an “elite media” that was trying to protect the president by attacking Republicans.

That was just what South Carolina voters wanted to hear, the signal that he would not only challenge Mr. Obama but work to bloody him, to destroy his dignity. As one voter told a reporter, “I think we’ve reached a point where we need someone who’s mean.”

[…]

Haters gotta hate.

From Red State:

I can confirm tonight from multiple sources that phone calls are in fact occurring between Republicans in Washington and among evangelical leaders to raise money for Rick Santorum rapidly.

The sources tell me that this is not for a Santorum win, though the evangelicals I spoke to continue to hope it is possible. This is to stop Newt Gingrich. One evangelical leader I spoke to said, “If Newt wins, we won’t be able to make family values an issue in the general.” One lobbyist I spoke to said, “They [the GOP leaders in DC] are really nervous about Gingrich and they think he’d be a disaster. The best way to shut him down is to prop up Rick.”

Florida is going to get interesting.

Is this what full unconcealed panic looks like?

re: #16 JasonA

From Red State:

Is this what full unconcealed panic looks like?

The RNC brass is got to be shitting their pants over Newt’s resurgence…they know that if there’s even a remote chance that Newt’s gonna take enough delegates to challenge or even overtake Mitt at the convention, Obama will have a cakewalk in the general.

re: #16 JasonA

From Red State:

Is this what full unconcealed panic looks like?

It seems that each of the candidates has a camp that’s formed behind them, with Romney carrying the remaining moderates and those who genuinely want to win the election, Newt carrying the angry white bigots, Santorum carrying the Bible-thumpers, and Paul carrying what remains of the youth vote and a lot of burnt-out stoners.

re: #17 talon_262

The RNC brass is got to be shitting their pants over Newt’s resurgence…they know that if there’s even a remote chance that Newt’s gonna take enough delegates to challenge or even overtake Mitt at the convention, Obama will have a cakewalk in the general.

The nightmare for the RNC is a brokered convention. It’s why Cantor and all these other guys are outright begging for the GOP base to finally rally around a single candidate. The worst thing possible for them is a primary season that drags on.

I can just imagine the panic in DC right now.

re: #18 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

… and Paul carrying what remains of the youth vote and a lot of burnt-out stoners.

Fuck you, dude. I don’t even like Ron Paul.
/wait, what?

re: #16 JasonA

Is this what full unconcealed panic looks like?

Erick, Son of Erick is starting to freak out for sure:

This is a recipe for disaster

Peter Hamby from CNN notes what is going to be a recipe for disaster for Mitt Romney as he tries to relate to the Republican base.

In South Carolina exit polls, Romney wins only the “moderate or liberal”, those with incomes in excess of $200,000.00, those with postgraduate education, those who oppose the tea party movement, and those who think religion does not matter at all.

A number of those have been consistent through Iowa and New Hampshire too.

Mitt Romney’s exit polling reflects he can get the votes of Washington, D.C. Republicans and those who think we should leave the fate of the country in their hands. But he cannot get the votes of those who think we need to reform and reduce the power of Washington, which I venture to say is a sizable portion of the base.

I read this whole book and …

re: #21 Lidane

Erick, Son of Erick is starting to freak out for sure:

This is a recipe for disaster

Not sure he’s freaking. If anything, he seems almost gleeful that Romney, the visible GOP establishment candidate, is losing ground to Newt, seen as the base’s favorite at the moment, sneering at establishment folks predicting (rightly) that a Newt nomination would cause the GOP to lose the House and fail to win the Senate.

In short, it looks like what we’ve expected to happen is beginning, namely the schism between the party faithful and the Tea Party insurgents who think the former are the reason everything’s so bad and are little more than “Demoncrats” in different clothing.

Well, the original “Night of the Living Dead” is on. Maybe this time I’ll manage to stay awake for the whole thing. Laters all.

re: #24 Slumbering Behemoth

Well, the original “Night of the Living Dead” is on. Maybe this time I’ll manage to stay awake for the whole thing. Laters all.

“They’re coming to get you, Barbara…”

re: #25 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

“They’re coming to get you, Barbara…”

That was Evil Dead.

Morning, all

re: #26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

That was Evil Dead.

Nah, that was a nerd bait. /

[Link: www.bbc.co.uk…]

At least 100,000 people have rallied in Hungary’s capital Budapest in support of embattled Prime Minister Viktor Orban and his government.

Participants carried banners in foreign languages, appealing to the European Union to respect Hungarian sovereignty.

Mr Orban and his cabinet have recently come under heavy criticism both at home and in Europe for adopting laws seen as endangering democracy.

Every ultraconservative, proto-fascist and authoritarian always falls back on sovereignity. Never fails. “Sovereign democracy” is the Russian pro-Putin meme coined by Surkov. More stuff like that, and “sovereignity” will become a dirty word.

re: #29 Sergey Romanov

Oh yeah, I forgot. “States’ rights”.

re: #16 JasonA

From Red State:

Is this what full unconcealed panic looks like?

ABR on steroids.

That Redstate article btw demonstrates just how much “back” is in the throwbacks description (accurate) of that crowd. One of the comments:

How far we have come in less than a year
virginiahiker Saturday, January 21st at 10:53PM EST (link)
Back in May, most of the people on RedState ranked Newt as a Washington insider who failed because conservatives revolted against him. Today they are hailing him as the second coming. Romney derangement syndrome has taken such a deep hold, I think many on this site would eagerly choose Obama if he were the only remaining alternative.

Britt Hume’s reminder of Newt’s 58% unfavorable rating may be uncomfortable, it is also factual. Some are favorably comparing Newt to Goldwater. Let’s see what that brought us. Aside from electing Lyndon Johnson to his first full term, the Democrats picked up 37 seats in the House and achieved a 2/3rds majority in the Senate. The subsequent 89th Congress enacted:

April 11, 1965: Elementary and Secondary Education Act,
July 27, 1965: Federal Cigarette Labeling and Advertising Act,
July 30, 1965: Social Security Act of 1965, (including Medicaid and Medicare)
August 10, 1965: Housing and Urban Development Act of 1965,
August 26, 1965: Public Works and Economic Development Act of 1965,
September 29, 1965: National Foundation on the Arts and the Humanities Act,
October 3, 1965: Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965,
October 20, 1965: Motor Vehicle Air Pollution Control Act, (including Solid Waste Disposal Act)
October 22, 1965: Highway Beautification Act,
November 8, 1965: Higher Education Act,
November 8, 1965: Vocational Rehabilitation Act Amendments
April 13, 1966: Uniform Time Act,
September 9, 1966: National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act
October 15, 1966: National Historic Preservation Act,
October 15, 1966: National Wildlife Refuge System Administration Act,
October 15, 1966: Department of Transportation Act,
November 3, 1966: Comprehensive Health, Planning and Service Act,

Yes, Goldwater’s nomination signaled the birth of the modern conservative movement; but 50 years later we are still trying to reverse the damage caused by his landslide defeat.

Yes the Republican establishment in Washington wants to hang on to whatever tenuous hold on power the party has. They know too well the price their children will pay if we have a repeat of 1964.

Oh, the horrors of… cigarette labeling.

Imagine a land where freedom truly rang… where cigarette manufacturers didn’t have to label their product, where billboards and litter adorned our highways, where college education was still limited to the rich, where automobiles didn’t have to have seatbelts and other safety devices and could pollute freely, where old people could just forego medical care… yes, the real America, for real Conservatives.

Go Newt!

re: #32 freetoken

That Redstate article btw demonstrates just how much “back” is in the throwbacks description (accurate) of that crowd. One of the comments:

Oh, the horrors of… cigarette labeling.

Imagine a land where freedom truly rang… where cigarette manufacturers didn’t have to label their product, where billboards and litter adorned our highways, where college education was still limited to the rich, where automobiles didn’t have to have seatbelts and other safety devices and could pollute freely, where old people could just forego medical care… yes, the real America, for real Conservatives.

You think that, perhaps, it’s finally setting in that they’re absolutely screwed when it comes to picking a candidate?

re: #34 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

You think that, perhaps, it’s finally setting in that they’re absolutely screwed when it comes to picking a candidate?

Their screwed if they try to pick their next frozen dinner from the supermarket freezer, if their muddled thinking is any indication.

Fundamentalists would vote for Satan if he told them what they wanted to hear. In fact, it appears that they did just that in SC yesterday.

Good grief… there’s another “debate” … tomorrow (Monday)!

[Link: www.usf.edu…]

Good Morning. :)

This is why I use large trash cans instead of bags, so cops won’t think it’s a big bag of cash and kick the crap out of me. True story.

Police allegedly beat innocent East Vancouver man
[Link: www.cbc.ca…]

Vancouver police are caught in an embarrassing situation in which they’re accused of beating up a man who they thought was a bank robber. Not only was he not the right guy — it turned out no bank had been robbed.

Manjit Singh says he had just taken his garbage out the curb of his home near Joyce Street and Kingsway when a police officer approached him.

“He pushed me on the fence,” said Singh, 51.

Other officers then swarmed him and started beating him up, Singh said

Joe Paterno reportedly near death
[Link: cleveland.cbslocal.com…]
Sucks to retire.

re: #43 Shropshire_Slasher

Sucks to retire.

PSU booting him to the curb like they did killed the old man…..

re: #14 freetoken

??

Failed joke at how the thread had gone dead.

Man charged with having sex with horse
[Link: www.tulsaworld.com…]

A man appeared before a Tulsa County judge Thursday on an allegation that he had sex with a horse while he was a student in Oklahoma State University’s veterinary medicine program.

Thomas Lyle Wilson, 28, was charged Oct. 21 in Tulsa County District Court with one count of crimes against nature. Court records indicate that his current address is in Wilkes Barre, Penn.

According to an affidavit filed Nov. 2, Wilson graduated from OSU with a doctorate of veterinary medicine in July 2010 and was employed in 2009 as a preceptor at Legacy Equine Centre in Glenpool.

On Sept. 14, 2009, a veterinarian was checking on the horses in the clinic’s barn via a live video feed and “observed the defendant (Wilson) having sex with a horse,” the affidavit alleges.

The veterinarian approached Wilson, at which point Wilson stated, “I’m glad you caught me. I need help,” the affidavit states.

It happened in 2009 but it took the horse almost 3 years to tap out the complaint

Great, now turd blossom is on Fox, I wish I received more than one TV channel in the kitchen. Flapjacks today, I’m gonna kick it up a notch and add a little vanilla to the batter.

Shit New Yorkers say:

Morning all!

slow night?

How is it now?

Still slow, I gather.

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Joe Paterno is dead?

Rest in Hell, Joe.

Morning. Still can’t believe Gingrich won as big as he did last night.

I’m trying to verify legislation that would prohibit the manufacture or sale of food or products which use aborted human fetuses

Seems a little hoaxy: easy target, OK GOP.

re: #47 Shropshire_Slasher

Great, now turd blossom is on Fox, I wish I received more than one TV channel in the kitchen. Flapjacks today, I’m gonna kick it up a notch and add a little vanilla to the batter.

Turd Blossom = Karl Rove

The nickname was one of two given to him by George W. Bush. “Boy Genius” is the other.

re: #66 HappyWarrior

Morning. Still can’t believe Gingrich won as big as he did last night.

Nor can I.

Newt Gingrich talks like Kermit the Frog if you ask me. (hearing his voice since my grandmother’s watching TV).

re: #68 Dark_Falcon

You win a big stack of flapjacks, I’ll mail ‘em

Good morning Lizards. Skipped SC brouhaha in order to deal with medieval politics. Really. Was off in NJ role playing in an Arthurian milieu. In that Saxon invasions and things like plagues can reorient the political landscape rather rapidly.

No primaries though. Arthur has won the general by killing most of the Saxon nobles and all their kings. Now to convince the Irish and Picts to accept that.

re: #67 BigPapa

I’m trying to verify legislation that would prohibit the manufacture or sale of food or products which use aborted human fetuses

Seems a little hoaxy: easy target, OK GOP.

Bingo. Not a hoax.

This is a bill to ban food containing aborted fetuses.

re: #73 BigPapa

Bingo. Not a hoax.

This is a bill to ban food containing aborted fetuses.

This scare tactic bullshit is getting old and getting old fast.

re: #72 oaktree

Good morning Lizards. Skipped SC brouhaha in order to deal with medieval politics. Really. Was off in NJ role playing in an Arthurian milieu. In that Saxon invasions and things like plagues can reorient the political landscape rather rapidly.

No primaries though. Arthur has won the general by killing most of the Saxon nobles and all their kings. Now to convince the Irish and Picts to accept that.

Tabletop RPG or LARP?

No, this isn’t from The Onion. It’s a REAL bill that has been introduced by Republicans in the Oklahoma Senate. Introduced by Republican Ralph Shortey, Senate bill 1418 makes it illegal to make or sell food or other products that contain human fetuses, including in research and development. Republicans introduced the bill after a Christian Right anti-abortion group claimed that several major food companies are using embryonic stem cells to enhance the flavor of their products. The allegations never got off the ground and the accused companies have flatly denied doing such a thing. That’s because it’s not only unethical to use stem cells in such a manner, it’s also illegal under US law (and disgusting). Yet Oklahoma Republicans, eager to please pro-life groups, are moving forward with their bill which just so happens to have a few additional benefits for stem cell research opponents.

Read more here.

This clown car is not funny any more.

re: #73 BigPapa

Bingo. Not a hoax.

This is a bill to ban food containing aborted fetuses.

Well, there goes the hope getting Hannibal Lecter to visit Oklahoma City.

///

Seriously, though: Who thinks this shit up?

re: #76 BigPapa

Read more here.

This clown car is not funny any more.

the religious right’s ignorance continues to confound me. Really food companies are using embryonic stem cells to enhance foods flavor? I bet they have no proof of this whatsoever but they believe climate change is a hoax.

re: #75 Dark_Falcon

Tabletop RPG or LARP?

Tabletop. System called “Pendragon”. Was published by Chaosium way back when but I think White Dwarf has the current license.

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

Well, there goes the hope getting Hannibal Lecter to visit Oklahoma City.

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Seriously, though: Who thinks this shit up?

Those who wish to Restore the Republic in their image.

I’m going go ahead and define the Elephant in the Living Room:

There are too many people on the planet. Either we recognize the individual’s right to choose or eventually, government’s will have to do so. These Family Value Tyrants do not give a rat’s ass about the value of life. What they do care about is the Power to Control that their doctrines will give them when they are in power.

Rep Ralph Shortey’s page.

fighting socialized healthcare

Check

anti immigrant

check

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

Nor can I.

Shrug. Hate plays well with haters.

re: #78 HappyWarrior

the religious right’s ignorance continues to confound me. Really food companies are using embryonic stem cells to enhance foods flavor? I bet they have no proof of this whatsoever but they believe climate change is a hoax.

Food Companies would not spend such resources on such a liability. Do these idiots realize the cost of such an “enhancement”? It’s just freaking out-of-the-question.

re: #78 HappyWarrior

the religious right’s ignorance continues to confound me. Really food companies are using embryonic stem cells to enhance foods flavor? I bet they have no proof of this whatsoever but they believe climate change is a hoax.

It’s utter insanity. It’s passing a state law to oppose something that has never been legal under Federal law. In fact, the relevant Federal law, the Pure Food and Drug Act, is more than 100 years old. Of course, to some in OK that would not matter because the president who urged its passage was Theodore Roosevelt and both and Upton Sinclair were both “Filthy Socialists”.

Actually, TR called Sinclair’s belief in Socialism “pathetic” (Sinclair was a actual member of the Socialist Party, so the label is accurate in his case). But the people who propose laws such as this do not really know history, knowing only “TR’s STATISM!!1” and “SINCLAIR WAS A SOCIALIST!!1” without actually know much about how either man formed his views, acted upon those views, or even how those views changed throughout their life times.

re: #84 Dark_Falcon

Ha!

I’m listening to It Can’t Happen Here by Sinclair Lewis now.

Rep Shorty also supported a petition drive to free Jerome Ersland, a pharmacy worker who foiled a robbery then executed one of injured robbers by pumping 5 more bullets into him while lying on the floor.

re: #79 oaktree

Tabletop. System called “Pendragon”. Was published by Chaosium way back when but I think White Dwarf has the current license.

Pendragon! Cool beans! Which version? The current production version (5) also has The Great Pendragon Campaign which usually lasts a couple of generations. Definitely my favorite BRP game.

re: #79 oaktree

Tabletop. System called “Pendragon”. Was published by Chaosium way back when but I think White Dwarf has the current license.

They still sell stuff for it at Games Plus, the game store where I play Battletech, and White Dwarf does indeed hold the license now.

I’m getting too pissed over the food/fetus issue.

Have a great morning all!

re: #85 ggt

Ha!

I’m listening to It Can’t Happen Here by Sinclair Lewis now.

Well, if you like it put a ding on it. [smiles]

re: #82 wlewisiii

Shrug. Hate plays well with haters.

Doesn’t really sound like hate though. More just generalized fear-mongering and trying to keep focus on the abortion issue.

Very unusual to see a Republican go after food corporations that openly. Those corps tend to donate to the GOP, and it seems to me to be quite foolish to alienate your donor base by threatening them with pointless laws and regulations. They could shift their support to Blue Dog Democrats in a state like Oklahoma fairly easily.

re: #88 Dark_Falcon

They still sell stuff for it at Games Plus, the game store where I play Battletech, and White Dwarf does indeed hold the license now.

Actually, no. It was White Wolf. Then they sold the license to Nocturnal Media but with the proviso that they could continue to sell their old product which is fully compatible with the latest version. I think Greg had some issues with WW, but I don’t pay as much mind to the RPG biz as I used to.

re: #87 wlewisiii

Pendragon! Cool beans! Which version? The current production version (5) also has The Great Pendragon Campaign which usually lasts a couple of generations. Definitely my favorite BRP game.

5th Edition and actually playing Great Pendragon Campaign. Battle of Badon Hill was last year. And it is a generational game - the oldest surviving knights are essentially campaign retiring at this point in their 50s and the next generation coming fully to the fore as the focus beyond their current role as extra knights in the combat companies.

I was originally playing/GM this game in 3rd Edition a ways back.

More debates in Florida? OOh no. Someone asked “why so many GOP debates?”

My answer?

“Because the field of candidates is so questionable.”

I DVR’d “Pale Rider”… Clint Eastwood’s killed more people than Cecil B. DeMille!

re: #91 Dark_Falcon

Doesn’t really sound like hate though. More just generalized fear-mongering and trying to keep focus on the abortion issue.

Very unusual to see a Republican go after food corporations that openly. Those corps tend to donate to the GOP, and it seems to me to be quite foolish to alienate your donor base by threatening them with pointless laws and regulations. They could shift their support to Blue Dog Democrats in a state like Oklahoma fairly easily.

Oh, I was walking about Newt. The other thing is just weirdness beyond belief.

re: #92 wlewisiii

Actually, no. It was White Wolf. Then they sold the license to Nocturnal Media but with the proviso that they could continue to sell their old product which is fully compatible with the latest version. I think Greg had some issues with WW, but I don’t pay as much mind to the RPG biz as I used to.

That sounds right. Last PenD thing I picked up was a hardcopy of the new “Book of the Manor” and I got that directly from Stafford himself since it appears he had the rights to sell that hardcopy, but not PDF versions.

One of my characters has a county-wide good reputation since he was key in a plan to raise money by free contribution from the local barons that led to all the fiefs in the county having a jousting list for training knights (if they did not already have one.) Part of a plan to make sure the army was better prepared for war once we decided to stop paying tribute to the Saxons. This move was also in his own interest since he was Marshall and thus would be one of the leaders of this force. :)

re: #84 Dark_Falcon

It’s utter insanity. It’s passing a state law to oppose something that has never been legal under Federal law. In fact, the relevant Federal law, the Pure Food and Drug Act, is more than 100 years old. Of course, to some in OK that would not matter because the president who urged its passage was Theodore Roosevelt and both and Upton Sinclair were both “Filthy Socialists”.

Actually, TR called Sinclair’s belief in Socialism “pathetic” (Sinclair was a actual member of the Socialist Party, so the label is accurate in his case). But the people who propose laws such as this do not really know history, knowing only “TR’s STATISM!!1” and “SINCLAIR WAS A SOCIALIST!!1” without actually know much about how either man formed his views, acted upon those views, or even how those views changed throughout their life times.

It’s like the Sharia madness if you ask me.

re: #93 oaktree

5th Edition and actually playing Great Pendragon Campaign. Battle of Badon Hill was last year. And it is a generational game - the oldest surviving knights are essentially campaign retiring at this point in their 50s and the next generation coming fully to the fore as the focus beyond their current role as extra knights in the combat companies.

I was originally playing/GM this game in 3rd Edition a ways back.

Funzies.

I always wanted to do something similar in the Spinward Marches for Traveller.

My three kindle books for my long plane ride Monday:
Ted Williams by Leigh Monville
Stalingrad: by Anthony Beevor
The Brethren by Bob Woodward.
Baseball, WWII, and the Supreme Court.

Where did this aborted fetus in food hoax start?

Official. Joe Paterno’s dead.

re: #99 wlewisiii

Funzies.

I always wanted to do something similar in the Spinward Marches for Traveller.

I always thought Traveller was interesting in how (compared to most later RPGs) you started with a relatively aged and experienced character. And working from that base I guess one could build a generational Traveller game background. Lots of kids finishing their military careers and then going out to find out why Mom or Dad walked out and disappeared thirty years before…

re: #102 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Official. Joe Paterno’s dead.

Queue fanatical alumni creating distraction by claiming Board of Trustees killed him and/or did not let him quietly ride into retirement by keeping him on for a bit longer.

However, this does kill the Franco Harris call for him to be reinstated. Unless PSU wants some sort of zombie HC. (And maybe already had one given some of the “excuses” tossed out for why JoePa never acted on the Sandusky thing earlier.)

re: #101 BigPapa

Where did this aborted fetus in food hoax start?

And the manufacturer of this supposed product which includes fetal cells has had their Wiki page updated with the hoax.

re: #104 oaktree

I frankly believe he died of a broken heart.

Well that, and lung cancer… and the fact that he was eighty-five years old.

re: #102 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Official. Joe Paterno’s dead.

Still? He was dead yesterday.

re: #17 talon_262

The RNC brass is got to be shitting their pants over Newt’s resurgence…they know that if there’s even a remote chance that Newt’s gonna take enough delegates to challenge or even overtake Mitt at the convention, Obama will have a cakewalk in the general.

IMO-They don’t think either one can win. Not in an improving economy anyway. And attempts to stall the economy have not worked to the GOP advantage. But they do think Mitt can help with the Senate and Congress far more than Newt, who could hurt them that way.

re: #107 darthstar

In other news…

re: #108 Rightwingconspirator

IMO-They don’t think either one can win. Not in an improving economy anyway. And attempts to stall the economy have not worked to the GOP advantage. But they do think Mitt can help with the Senate and Congress far more than Newt, who could hurt them that way.

What’s amazing is that they’re willing to throw hundreds of millions of dollars at a campaign they don’t expect (or seriously hope) to win. That tells you how much they stand to gain if they can keep a Democratic Congress from enacting legislation for another four years.

re: #107 darthstar

This morning they were reporting that they were discussing taking him off of life support.

re: #109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

In other news…

He was a great coach, and in five years he’ll be anointed as a saint in the football hall of fame, but he turned his back on child abuse happening on his staff, and for that he’ll not be missed by me…ever.

re: #105 BigPapa

First thing I thought when I read that was that it was a regurgitation of the whole “Jews are gonna grind up yer babies and make matzoh with ‘em” myth, except substituting scientists instead.

And holy shit, since the founder of the company is Jewish, people are going there. I can’t link to this stuff.

re: #110 darthstar

Yes, quite so and it reflects how much money poured in. Nobody was going to just bank that for next time regardless of their perceived chance to win. It never works that way.

re: #111 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

This morning they were reporting that they were discussing taking him off of life support.

Okay. Thanks.

re: #105 BigPapa

And the manufacturer of this supposed product which includes fetal cells has had their Wiki page updated with the hoax.

Their Wikipage was edited in February 2010 includes this passage:

Backlash from Pro-Life Groups

In March 2010, it was asserted by the pro-life group Children of God for Life, which monitors the use of cells from aborted babies, that Senomyx uses aborted fetal cells in its products and testing, making use of Human Embryonic Kidney 293 cells (HEK 293). Senomyx has not confirmed this, but the pro-life group cited the Senomyx paper “Human receptors for sweet and umami taste” in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America.[2]

Either they’re stupid or not even trying.

re: #116 BigPapa

Their Wikipage was edited in February 2010 includes this passage:

Either they’re stupid or not even trying.

Makes for a hell of a smoothie.

re: #113 dragonath

First thing I thought when I read that was that it was a regurgitation of the whole “Jews are gonna grind up yer babies and make matzoh with ‘em” myth, except substituting scientists instead.

And holy shit, since the founder of the company is Jewish, people are going there. I can’t link to this stuff.

Don’t wade in, I’ll do it. This iteration of mind numbingly stupid derp is just as bad as the old.

For this, I may be inclined to pay more attention to news from Europe:
EU urges balance between Internet freedom and copyright

Governments must strike a balance between policing the Internet to protect copyright and upholding freedom of expression, EU justice commissioner Viviane Reding said on Sunday.

Reding was reacting to a US crackdown on hundreds of websites accused of offering pirated music or movies or counterfeit goods, as well as calls for new legislation to guard intellectual property.

However, that URL is supiciously long —quite a bit longer than an EICAR test file.

The good news out of last night is that, because South Carolina got the answer wrong, the Republican primary continues. Now the media will be challenged to make Florida (a state famous for electoral integrity) into a brass ring of mythic proportions. Unless THEY get it wrong, at which point they have to suffer through Nevada where Ron Paul already has a ground game. Who knew nominatin’ was such hard work? It’s supposed to be Iowa-New Hampshire-South Carolina and out. The rest of the states are just face time with the media for the winner. Now the campaign has to compete with American Idol.

re: #102 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Official. Joe Paterno’s dead.

Good.

re: #111 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

This morning they were reporting that they were discussing taking him off of life support.

He called an audible

re: #119 abolitionist

Yeah. Chop off everything after ;, ; included.

re: #123 Sergey Romanov

Yeah. Chop off everything after ;, ; included.

Thanks for the info.

[Link: www.cbs.com…]

is down, supossedly by Anon

Shortened URL: [Link: news.yahoo.com…]

re: #125 RogueOne

[Link: www.cbs.com…]

is down, supossedly by Anon

Why?
Like old people go on the web???
/

re: #125 RogueOne

[Link: www.cbs.com…]

is down, supossedly by Anon

Their website is cbsnews.com, and it still works.

re: #127 Varek Raith

Why?
Like old people go on the web???
/

Anon hates The Bold And The Beautiful

re: #128 BigPapa

So does Sportsline

Gotta run, enjoy the games today. Go Harbaugh!

re: #125 RogueOne

[Link: www.cbs.com…]

is down, supossedly by Anon

I guess CBS will now have to give in to their demands, if they had any.

‘God’-awful mob steals sacred item from UWS church

There’s no longer room at the inn at a Manhattan church that’s sheltering Occupy Wall Streeters after a holy vessel disappeared from the altar last week.
When the Rev. Bob Brashear prepared for Sunday services at West Park Presbyterian Church on West 86th Street, he noticed parts of the bronze baptismal font were gone.

…
In Brooklyn, at another church housing OWS protesters, an occupier urinated on a cross, according to Rabbi Chaim Gruber, who has angrily abandoned the OWS movement.

Sunday morning Fundie Funnies… The Purity Bear.

re: #132 jaunte

I guess CBS will now have to give in to their demands, if they had any.

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Nope, can’t think of any reason why CBS has been attacked.

I just noticed something interesting about Tunisia’s Nahda Party. From TVTropes,though well sourced within it.

The first free elections were held on the 23rd. of October 2011. The moderate islamic party Nahda, or Renaissance Party won the most seats, 90 out of 217. Nahda leadership has promised to respect the large secular community in urban Tunis, opposes strict Sharia and the Saudi-Arabian model, instead presenting Indonesia and Turkey as better social models. Nahda also promised to uphold women’s and homosexual’s rights, though to what extent the promises will be kept is still questionable.

Well, that’s a first in the Arab World.

Also, last night, I had a fridge brilliance moment about the difference between the Muslim Brotherhood and the Salafists.

re: #133 Killgore Trout

Someone flunked the Dale Carnegie course on how to win friends and influence people!!!

re: #120 darthstar

The good news out of last night is that, because South Carolina got the answer wrong, the Republican primary continues. Now the media will be challenged to make Florida (a state famous for electoral integrity) into a brass ring of mythic proportions. Unless THEY get it wrong, at which point they have to suffer through Nevada where Ron Paul already has a ground game. Who knew nominatin’ was such hard work? It’s supposed to be Iowa-New Hampshire-South Carolina and out. The rest of the states are just face time with the media for the winner. Now the campaign has to compete with American Idol.

Actually, the entire way the GOP nomination process was written in 2009 had the effect of precluding “Iowa-New Hampshire-South Carolina and out”. By making all the Super Tuesday (March 7th) primaries proportional and keeping that formula for all March primaries, the RNC set things up so that the contest would run into April.

But they also set things up so April’s primaries would be almost entirely winner-take-all. Thus Dick Morris had the right of it when he said that the GOP primary race is set up to run into April, but that it will end fairly rapidly in April.

re: #137 sattv4u2

Someone flunked the Dale Carnegie course on how to win friends and influence people!!!

More like the “Course on How To Fuck Friends and Irritate People”.

This goes under the “How Stupid Can You Be?” file. It will do nothing but cost OWS support.

This is the source of the hoax about fetal cells in our food. It’s from a website run by a 56 year old Florida housewife that doesn’t seem to have any education in biology.

They also seem to have an issue with vaccines.

re: #135 Varek Raith

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Nope, can’t think of any reason why CBS has been attacked.

For being corporate media, of course. Anonymous has gone way past any limits on their tactics, beyond those imposed by raw force (such as the Mexican cartels threatened to keep the hackers off their backs). They aren’t like OWS, which for all its problems avoids doing large damage (disruption and damage being different things). Anonymous is rapidly becoming a band of cyber-terrorists. I fully expect to see the USA PATRIOT Act invoked against them before the year is out.

re: #140 BigPapa

This is the source of the hoax about fetal cells in our food. It’s from a website run by a 56 year old Florida housewife that doesn’t seem to have any education in biology.

They also seem to have an issue with vaccines.

An anti-vaxxer, what a surprise. Given her seeming preoocupations, tending bar when she’s around might prove hard. Unless one had stocked up on rainwater and grain alcohol beforehand, of course.*

*: Two updings to whoever posts the best referential reply to this one.

the Boko Haram death toll from this week…
[Link: www.reuters.com…]

Boko Haram has been blamed for killing hundreds of people in increasingly sophisticated bombings and shootings, mostly targeting security forces, establishment figures and more recently Christians, in country of 160 million people split roughly evenly between them and Muslims.

re: #139 Dark_Falcon

More like the “Course on How To Fuck Friends and Irritate People”.

This goes under the “How Stupid Can You Be?” file. It will do nothing but cost OWS support.

It’s been a strange mentality even from the beginning of the protests. They pretty much all abused the parks they were camping in. Even in cities like Portland that tried to be supportive and accommodating eventually just couldn’t take it. The OWS apologists didn’t seem to think this was going to be a problem since their cause was so righteous.

re: #143 albusteve

Oh, this is getting re-fucking-diculous. Will somebody please slaughter these unenlightened Boko Haram assholes.

Also, have to re-install Rhapsody on my computer. Whenever I tried to do the mandatory update, it just sort of died.

re: #143 albusteve

the Boko Haram death toll from this week…
[Link: www.reuters.com…]

Boko Haram has been blamed for killing hundreds of people in increasingly sophisticated bombings and shootings, mostly targeting security forces, establishment figures and more recently Christians, in country of 160 million people split roughly evenly between them and Muslims.

That’s a really ugly situation.

re: #143 albusteve

re: #145 ProLifeLiberal

re: #146 Killgore Trout

[Link: www.reuters.com…]

Islamist insurgents kill over 178 in Nigeria’s Kano

re: #147 sattv4u2

re: #145 ProLifeLiberal

re: #146 Killgore Trout

[Link: www.reuters.com…]

Islamist insurgents kill over 178 in Nigeria’s Kano

oopppsss.. sorry for the duplicate link

Obama beats Gingrich in Texas

[Link: www.publicpolicypolling.com…]

re: #145 ProLifeLiberal

Oh, this is getting re-fucking-diculous. Will somebody please slaughter these unenlightened Boko Haram assholes.

Also, have to re-install Rhapsody on my computer. Whenever I tried to do the mandatory update, it just sort of died.

Slaughtering the individual Islamists will, as Jerry Pournelle has often noted in his science fiction, only buy time. The only true solution to the threat they embody is to turn off the fountain of Islamist radicalism that produces groups like Boko Haram, which is not ours to do (that last being one thing Mark Steyn is undeniably correct about). As long a Salafist imams and Saudi money are still being sent into northern Nigeria the threat will continue.

re: #146 Killgore Trout

That’s a really ugly situation.

if they blow a pipeline down in the river delta, it could be a huge disaster

re: #149 SpaceJesus

And polling shows Romney and Gingrich neck-and-neck there…..

A Georgia judge has ordered President Barack Obama to appear in court in Atlanta Thursday for a hearing on a complaint that says Obama isn’t a natural-born citizen and can’t be president.

“a 100 times bigger than Watergate!”

Read more here: [Link: www.ledger-enquirer.com…]

re: #150 Dark_Falcon

Well, Turkey is already beginning to set themselves up as an alternative to Saudi Arabia. The Turkish Government is right now preparing to de-segregate Mosques in some parts of the nation.

Another reason for a change in government for Syria. Between them and Jordan, you have a land-route to Saudi. A viable way to make war, especially if Syria, Jordan, and Iraq could be brought along (simple in Jordan’s case.)

Strangely, the Salafis will make it that we are on the same side as the Muslim Brotherhood.

Chris Christie says he would consider being Mitt Romney’s vice president

re: #153 albusteve
Wasn’t that posted earlier? [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

BBL

re: #156 PhillyPretzel

Wasn’t that posted earlier? [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

no, that’s a fake

re: #158 albusteve
Terribly sorry.

re: #155 jaunte

Chris Christie says he would consider being Mitt Romney’s vice president

I thought “there was no way” he’s leaving New Jersey. Anyhow, Romney-Christie would be a weak ticket. Romney needs someone to strengthen his conservative bonafides and appeal to blue collar workers. Huckabee would be perfect honestly but the two don’t get along. I still see Christie as a future AG in a Republican administration though and I can hear Pam Geller’s vodka induced screams from here.

re: #159 PhillyPretzel

Terribly sorry.

about what?

re: #160 HappyWarrior

Looks like he’s opening the door.

re: #161 albusteve
See #156.

re: #162 jaunte

Looks like he’s opening the door.

Yeah I guess. I just don’t see Christie as a good running mate for Romney. If Romney had finally convinced the base he’s a genuine conservative than maybe but honestly two northern Republicans with a reputation as moderates on the same ticket just seems unlikely to me.

re: #160 HappyWarrior

I thought “there was no way” he’s leaving New Jersey. Anyhow, Romney-Christie would be a weak ticket. Romney needs someone to strengthen his conservative bonafides and appeal to blue collar workers. Huckabee would be perfect honestly but the two don’t get along. I still see Christie as a future AG in a Republican administration though and I can hear Pam Geller’s vodka induced screams from here.

It’s all marketing now. Whether Christie will or will not consider the position is a moot point - it’s getting his name in the media as a serious contender. If he said “absolutely, no I won’t” it would be short news. Much better the free PR longer term for more name recognition.

Pilot with terror links deemed a security risk accuses airline of racism after losing his job

A British airline pilot arrested over an alleged terrorist plot is claiming racial and religious discrimination after losing his job.
The pilot, a Muslim, was judged a security risk because of his close links to two alleged extremists suspected of ‘planning to use an aircraft as part of a hostile or terrorist act’.
….
Concerns about the two suspected extremists – one is a business partner of the pilot’s brother – were first raised when they paid for flying lessons and a light aircraft in cash.
During a raid on the London home of one of the pair, detectives found documents relating to the operation of aircraft, a flight map of the UK and literature from an Islamic extremist group banned in many countries.
The pilot, who lives in South-East England and was based at Heathrow, has known the men for ten years and rented a flat from one of them.
In October 2007 the pilot himself was arrested – and immediately suspended by the airline – but was never charged.

re: #165 allegro

It’s all marketing now. Whether Christie will or will not consider the position is a moot point - it’s getting his name in the media as a serious contender. If he said “absolutely, no I won’t” it would be short news. Much better the free PR longer term for more name recognition.

True that, old saying is right no such thing as bad publicity.

Breitbart is having a Les Misérables morning on twitter.

Newt, The Prequel—Episode I

Ben Kennedy, the history department chairman who in 1970 gave Gingrich his first academic job:
“…the man lacks a moral compass. He is completely enfolded in himself. And whatever it takes to advance himself in the world he will do, without scruple.”

re: #169 jaunte

Newt, The Prequel—Episode I

Now that’s an endorsement. Oh wait.

re: #133 Killgore Trout

‘God’-awful mob steals sacred item from UWS church

It seems to go a bit beyond that specific incident. Rabbi Gruber has posted a long explanation for his disenchantment with the group.

re: #168 jaunte

Breitbart is having a Les Misérables morning on twitter.

Do you hear the people sing?
Singing a song of angry men,
It is the music of a people
who will not be slaves again!

re: #171 SanFranciscoZionist

It seems to go a bit beyond that specific incident. Rabbi Gruber has posted a long explanation for his disenchantment with the group.

I start with the now-infamous Spokes meeting that approved of the proposal removing the $1000 bail cap, so to pay the $25,000 bail of an Occupier who had come to the Zuccotti area with an unregistered gun

re: #173 sattv4u2

I start with the now-infamous Spokes meeting that approved of the proposal removing the $1000 bail cap, so to pay the $25,000 bail of an Occupier who had come to the Zuccotti area with an unregistered gun

I just skimmed the length of the thing, but he sounds fairly fed up.

re: #173 sattv4u2

I start with the now-infamous Spokes meeting that approved of the proposal removing the $1000 bail cap, so to pay the $25,000 bail of an Occupier who had come to the Zuccotti area with an unregistered gun

Are you bolding to highlight this incident?
Why don’t you just put it in scare quotes?

Derp fail.

re: #171 SanFranciscoZionist

It seems to go a bit beyond that specific incident. Rabbi Gruber has posted a long explanation for his disenchantment with the group.

That’s another reason for OWS death - not only extremists multiply in absolute terms, but the decent people just leave, thus increasing the percentage of extremists. Sort of a chain reaction

re: #176 Sergey Romanov

I believe Kalle Lasn understood this would happen.

re: #177 jaunte

I believe Kalle Lasn understood this would happen.

Could be.

re: #177 jaunte

I believe Kalle Lasn understood this would happen.

so did albusteve

re: #179 albusteve

I mean he encouraged it as a deliberate act of vandalism.

re: #179 albusteve

so did albusteve 90% of lizards

Nobody is worthy of special credit predicting the obvious demise of OWS.

re: #181 BigPapa

Nobody is worthy of special credit predicting the obvious demise of OWS.

Exactly.

re: #180 jaunte

I mean he encouraged it as a deliberate act of vandalism.

got it

re: #181 BigPapa

Nobody is worthy of special credit predicting the obvious demise of OWS.

nobody asked for any….
derp fail

re: #181 BigPapa

Nobody is worthy of special credit predicting the obvious demise of OWS.

Oh, come on, I want a little extra credit. Just months ago, we had people ‘round here preaching on how the face of politics was changed forever!

re: #175 BigPapa

Are you bolding to highlight this incident?
Why don’t you just put it in scare quotes?

Derp fail.

You’re right

It didn’t happen
The Rabbi has nothing to complain/ talk about
It was just one misguided Yute!

re: #185 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, come on, I want a little extra credit. Just months ago, we had people ‘round here preaching on how the face of politics was changed forever!

One thing doesn’t contradict another (regardless of whether it happened).

cookies for everyone!

re: #188 albusteve

cookTies for everyone!

re: #188 albusteve

cookies for everyone!

You won’t get one, capitalist pig. /

Breitbart minions on Van Jones again, who is speaking at UCLA:

Jan. 24. Guess who’s coming to @UCLA: Self-proclaimed Communist and 9/11 Truther, Van Jones @AndrewBreitbart

re: #190 Sergey Romanov

You won’t get one, capitalist pig. /

Can I have his??

Oh ,, wait ,,,,{oink},, guess I don’t get one either!

re: #191 BigPapa

Breitbart minions on Van Jones again, who is speaking at UCLA:

Breitbart lying? No way! /

re: #190 Sergey Romanov

You won’t get one, capitalist pig. /

true, but my capitalism is nearing the end…I’m nearly out of assets to dump

re: #186 sattv4u2

You’re right

It didn’t happen
The Rabbi has nothing to complain/ talk about
It was just one misguided Yute!

The Rabbi has a bunch of stuff to complain about, as he did on that blog post, which includes response to the incident with Dufus having an unregistered gun. Which was in his UHaul truck, parked a few blocks away from Zuccotti, with people coming in and out of it.

So why the bolded reference to the unregistered gun, which seemed to be a big deal here before?

That is a rhetorical question. I know why: infer that OWS is violent and people are bringing guns to it to cause havoc.

re: #191 BigPapa

Ah, minions. My bad. But it’s not as if AB wouldn’t write that.

re: #195 BigPapa

The Rabbi has a bunch of stuff to complain about, as he did on that blog post, which includes response to the incident with Dufus having an unregistered gun. Which was in his UHaul truck, parked a few blocks away from Zuccotti, with people coming in and out of it.

So why the bolded reference to the unregistered gun, which seemed to be a big deal here before?

That is a rhetorical question. I know why: infer that OWS is violent and people are bringing guns to it to cause havoc.

I thought it was a nice touch…a bit of contrast never hurts

re: #197 albusteve

Contrast? Me no understand ‘derstand.

contrast

re: #185 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, come on, I want a little extra credit. Just months ago, we had people ‘round here preaching on how the face of politics was changed forever!

Really? Like who?

re: #200 Obdicut

Really? Like who?

Like, 1% of lizards. Hey, wait…!

re: #195 BigPapa

The Rabbi has a bunch of stuff to complain about, as he did on that blog post, which includes response to the incident with Dufus having an unregistered gun. Which was in his UHaul truck, parked a few blocks away from Zuccotti, with people coming in and out of it.

So why the bolded reference to the unregistered gun, which seemed to be a big deal here before?

That is a rhetorical question. I know why: infer that OWS is violent and people are bringing guns to it to cause havoc.

If you were so offended by me bolding that section of the Rabbis post then you could easily have crossed it out when you quoted it

:)

re: #195 BigPapa

infer that OWS is violent and people are bringing guns to it to cause havoc.

Nahh,,, i’m sure he brought it to mix pancake batter with!

re: #202 sattv4u2

Your comment doesn’t mean anything, neither does my offense, real or imagined. The substance of what I said does.

To which you’ve not replied. So I’ll take that as a tacit acknowledgement that I’m correct in that you’ve gone a boner to dish dirt on OWS. But I take no special credit for that assessment, it’s pretty obvious.

re: #203 sattv4u2

infer that OWS is violent and people are bringing guns to it to cause havoc.

Nahh,,, i’m sure he brought it to mix pancake batter with!

Again, implied inference is a really ineffective way to communicate.

Come out and say why he had the unregistered gun in his UHaul.

re: #171 SanFranciscoZionist

It seems to go a bit beyond that specific incident. Rabbi Gruber has posted a long explanation for his disenchantment with the group.

From the opening…

This letter will offer explanation. Some of you may also have heard the false rumor that I was working for the police! This letter will then also expose this lie as vicious slander,

That seem to be another favorite tactic used towards fellow protesters who are concerned about safety, rapes, drug use etc. What a shame.

re: #204 BigPapa

Your comment doesn’t mean anything, neither does my offense, real or imagined. The substance of what I said does.

To which you’ve not replied. So I’ll take that as a tacit acknowledgement that I’m correct in that you’ve gone a boner to dish dirt on OWS. But I take no special credit for that assessment, it’s pretty obvious.

I know a good orthopedic surgeon that will help you once your arm and shoulder snap from patting yourself on the back!

That stated, I didn’t “gone a boner to dish dirt on OWS” I took an excerpt from a link posted by SFZ about a rabbis laundry list of issues he has with a movement he was seemingly a large part of

That you couldn’t discern that from my posts is a you problem, not a me problem

re: #205 BigPapa

Again, implied inference is a really ineffective way to communicate.

Come out and say why he had the unregistered gun in his UHaul.

I haven’t a clue. Do you?

re: #208 sattv4u2

I haven’t a clue. Do you?

Issue’s not why some schmuck had an unregistered gun. Issue is why the folks at the meeting thought it was worth 25,000 dollars of their bail money fund to protect a dumb schmuck like that from the consequences of of having an unregistered gun at their event.

My guess: they thought they were being revolutionary.

I’ve been at that meeting. The stupidity can be enough to melt your brains.

re: #207 sattv4u2

I know a good orthopedic surgeon that will help you once your arm and shoulder snap from patting yourself on the back!

That stated, I didn’t “gone a boner to dish dirt on OWS” I took an excerpt from a link posted by SFZ about a rabbis laundry list of issues he has with a movement he was seemingly a large part of

That you couldn’t discern that from my posts is a you problem, not a me problem

I’m still reading through the statement. It’s quite a damning indictment of the OWS mentality, covering up violence even at the expense of the safety of fellow protesters, covering for vandals and criminals, etc. All this was a pretty open secret but OWS and their apologists still continue trying to avoid discussion about what’s really going on.

re: #209 SanFranciscoZionist

Issue’s not why some schmuck had an unregistered gun. Issue is why the folks at the meeting thought it was worth 25,000 dollars of their bail money fund to protect a dumb schmuck like that from the consequences of of having an unregistered gun at their event.

My guess: they thought they were being revolutionary.

I’ve been at that meeting. The stupidity can be enough to melt your brains.

And when I say ‘that meeting’, I mean the prototypical meeting it resembles, where the people around you think they’re being revolutionaries, and make stupid choices because of this. Not the New York General Assembly.

re: #207 sattv4u2

I know a good orthopedic surgeon that will help you once your arm and shoulder snap from patting yourself on the back!

That stated, I didn’t “gone a boner to dish dirt on OWS” I took an excerpt from a link posted by SFZ about a rabbis laundry list of issues he has with a movement he was seemingly a large part of

That you couldn’t discern that from my posts is a you problem, not a me problem

I just said ‘I’m not taking credit’ and you seemed to think I was taking credit. Weird.

But the cute part is that the Rabbi posted a laundry list of issues he had with the movement but you chose to copy/bold only one part, which happened to be about an unregistered gun… from a guy who packed up a UHaul in South Carolina or that region, gun loving central.

So the issue is not what I couldn’t discern from your posts, it’s what I did discern from your posts: you like to focus on all bad things OWS, especially guns and rapey stabbianism.

re: #209 SanFranciscoZionist

re: #210 Killgore Trout

I’m still reading through the statement. It’s quite a damning indictment of the OWS mentality,

Yes,, and the reason why I started with that excerpt was simply (as the Rabbi stated ) I start with the now-infamous Spokes meeting

re: #208 sattv4u2

I haven’t a clue. Do you?

There’s a few plausibles. I find it hard to believe you haven’t considered them.

And so we continue the Satt Shuffle.

re: #212 BigPapa

the cute part is that the Rabbi posted a laundry list of issues he had with the movement but you chose to copy/bold only one part

Again, from the Rabbi

I START WITH

I would imagine out of all the other things he started with that one as it was the most troubling to him on many levels

re: #214 BigPapa

There’s a few plausibles. I find it hard to believe you haven’t considered them.

And so we continue the Satt Shuffle.

Who (besides you) says I didn’t?

re: #210 Killgore Trout

I’m still reading through the statement. It’s quite a damning indictment of the OWS mentality, covering up violence even at the expense of the safety of fellow protesters, covering for vandals and criminals, etc. All this was a pretty open secret but OWS and their apologists still continue trying to avoid discussion about what’s really going on.

It wasn’t a secret at all. People who didn’t like that aspect of things were very open about their problem with it, and sent out open letters on websites, talked about it on Facebook, etc.

What the response was here one night when I posted Michael Lerner’s thoughts on the matter was another issue.

re: #212 BigPapa

you like to focus on all bad things OWS, especially guns and rapey stabbianism.

You really should read that article and take it to heart. He is really disgusted by the pervasive mentality among the OWS protesters. There is a very serious problem with these people and their movement. This isn’t recent and was there from the beginning.

re: #216 sattv4u2

Who (besides you) says I didn’t?

Who? Why does it matter? What’s the price of tea in China? Are you just asking questions?

re: #214 BigPapa

I already gave you two

Misguided Yute
Pancake batter stirrer

Several more

hammer
something to prop a door open with
place condoms in the chamber to keep them dry
a myriad of other nefarious and non nefarious reasons

re: #219 BigPapa

Who? Why does it matter? What’s the price of tea in China? Are you just asking questions?

You just asked three! Are we counting now?

(ooppppss,, there’s one on me!!!)

re: #218 Killgore Trout

You really should read that article and take it to heart. He is really disgusted by the pervasive mentality among the OWS protesters. There is a very serious problem with these people and their movement. This isn’t recent and was there from the beginning.

I read the article. I don’t need to take it to heart at all. There were real problems with OWS from the start, it seems that most of us here at LGF knew that.

So I don’t understand why the campaign to ‘educate’ or ‘raise awareness’ about OWS, here, over the last several months. It frequently looks like cheap and easy leftist bashing.

re: #220 sattv4u2

I already gave you two

Misguided Yute
Pancake batter stirrer

Several more

hammer
something to prop a door open with
place condoms in the chamber to keep them dry
a myriad of other nefarious and non nefarious reasons

Ah, you ‘have no idea’ but you do have some ideas. Thanks for clearing that up. Drink!

re: #217 SanFranciscoZionist

Windys took OWS maybe a bit too close to heart, that’s true.

Nothing like a good AM Satt Shuffle to get the juices flowing. Off to Costco for pallets of hard tack/bacon and jugs of moonshine. I love being a Fair Weather Football Fan.

re: #223 BigPapa

Ah, you ‘have no idea’ but you do have some ideas. Thanks for clearing that up. Drink!

Comprehension problems?

I have no idea why HE had it

I have several why he MIGHT have had it

And I asked you back, do you know why HE had it?

re: #222 BigPapa

So I don’t understand why the campaign to ‘educate’ or ‘raise awareness’ about OWS, here, over the last several months. It frequently looks like cheap and easy leftist bashing.

Why the campaign to “educate us” or “raise awareness’ about the Repub candidates?

There were ” real problems with OWS them from the start, it seems that most of us here at LGF knew that.

Funny how that works

re: #226 sattv4u2

Comprehension problems?

I have no idea why HE had it

I have several why he MIGHT have had it

And I asked you back, do you know why HE had it?

Yes, many comprehension problems. That’s likely due to your debate style and less to my comprehension abilities. There was no designation between his intent, actual or possible. So it’s silly to make the distinction now.

re: #227 sattv4u2

Why the campaign to “educate us” or “raise awareness’ about the Repub candidates?

Who does that here? Unless you mean the posts on the FP and in the Pages, which are not meant “for us”, but for everybody.

re: #227 sattv4u2

So I don’t understand why the campaign to ‘educate’ or ‘raise awareness’ about OWS, here, over the last several months. It frequently looks like cheap and easy leftist bashing.

Why the campaign to “educate us” or “raise awareness’ about the Repub candidates?

There were ” real problems with OWS them from the start, it seems that most of us here at LGF knew that.

Funny how that works

Ah, an equivocation with LGF coverage of the GOP. There it is.

The criticism of the GOP is very specific, with rationale supporting it. Criticism of OWS by you? Bolding quotes and making inferences just like many on the right, with no real sustained criticism sticking to facts.

At least KT will have a discussion about it.

re: #230 BigPapa

So why did he have the gun?

re: #231 sattv4u2

So why did he have the gun?

I don’t know. But I think you meant to ask me what is the most likely reason he had the gun?

I think he moved up north and decided to go to this OWS thingy. He has his personal belongings with him, which included an unregistered gun. Gun found in UHaul truck by cops, who noticed the UHaul parked near Zuccotti with people coming and out of the back. It was stupid for sure.

There is no evidence of anything beyond that.

re: #232 BigPapa

I don’t know. But I think you meant to ask me what is the most likely reason he had the gun?

I think he moved up north and decided to go to this OWS thingy. He has his personal belongings with him, which included an unregistered gun. Gun found in UHaul truck by cops, who noticed the UHaul parked near Zuccotti with people coming and out of the back. It was stupid for sure.

There is no evidence of anything beyond that.

Could be

Could be not

My 1st impression still is pancake batter mixer