Missouri Caveman Todd Akin Arrested in 1987 With Radical Anti-Abortion Group

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It’s easy to laugh at Todd Akin’s ridiculous caveman views, but Akin and the deranged anti-choice fanatics he associates with are really not a laughing matter; they’re deadly serious and willing to break laws: Todd Akin Arrested on May 9, 1987 With Radical Anti-Abortion Group.

We learned from a public records request that Akin was arrested on May 9, 1987 in St. Louis. The St. Louis Post-Dispatch covered the protest and reported the following day that police “arrested 30 anti-abortion protesters” for blocking “the front doors of Reproductive Health Services” while about “50 anti-abortion activists picketed two clinics” in St. Louis County. The Post-Dispatch quoted the spokesman for the protesters, John Ryan, who said the actions “were in honor of Mother’s Day.”

At the time, Ryan was head of the Pro-Life Direct Action League. He and his organization were among those sued by the National Organization for Women in 1986, which sought to “stop what it called a nationwide conspiracy to close abortion clinics.” “We believe there is a reign of terror going on,” said Eleanor Smeal, then president of NOW. She labeled Ryan - who had been “arrested almost 350 times” by then - a “terrorist.”

This is who Akin chose to get involved with in 1987 - and it gets worse. Ryan was pushed out as head of the Pro-Life Direct Action League around September 1987 and replaced by an aggressive, fundamentalist leader, Tim Dreste. Dreste affiliated the group with Randall Terry’s radical Operation Rescue the following summer. This is the same Randall Terry who later said of abortion providers, “When I, or people like me are running the country, you’d better flee, because we will find you, we will try you, and we’ll execute you.”

Dreste shared a jail cell with Terry in September 1988 and returned to St. Louis under orders to break with the Catholic-dominated Pro-Life Direct Action League. Just one month later, Akin appeared at an event for Dreste’s new group, Whole Life Ministries.

The Post-Dispatch reported on October 29 that Akin, who was elected days later to public office, “spoke to about 35 anti-abortion activists” planning to block clinic doors the next day. He said, “As far as I am concerned, you are the freedom fighters of America.” “My hat is off to you,” he continued.

The article identified Dreste as director of Whole Life Ministries, “a new anti-abortion group in St. Louis.” “We’re going to tell her we’re not going to allow her to kill her baby,” he said. Dreste made clear that protesters would block the clinic doors and refuse police orders to move. “We will tell (police) we will obey God’s law before we obey man’s law.” Sound familiar?

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107 comments
1 darthstar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 11:48:47am

Fuck Todd Akin with Osama bin Laden's skull.

Speaking of bin Laden...

2 Kragar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 11:49:32am

Don't be silly, white Christians can't be terrorists. Only heretical brown people can be terrorists.
///

3 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 11:50:12am

re: #1 darthstar

more like "fuck todd akin with Osama Bin Laden's mummified penis just so we can say he had a little muslim in him"

//

4 Kragar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 11:51:27am

I've got a real problem with elected officials saying they put another set of laws ahead of the ones they were elected to uphold.

5 efuseakay  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 11:54:50am

He's the Republican Robert Byrd, except his views haven't evolved. Nor will they ever, since evolution is teh ebil.

6 Mattand  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 11:55:32am

re: #4 Kragar

I've got a real problem with elected officials saying they put another set of laws ahead of the ones they were elected to uphold.

Unfortunately, most of America sees that as a sign of morality.

7 DisturbedEma  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 11:58:03am

October surprise is only a surprise if you can't fathom it. I'm more surprised that he's not bragging about long before now as proof of his commitment to you know the right of women. ///

8 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 11:58:12am

re: #6 Mattand

Unfortunately, most of America sees that as a sign of morality.

Or their good American self-centeredness when they're following the Laws of Acquisition.

9 Kragar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 11:59:28am

re: #6 Mattand

Unfortunately, most of America sees that as a sign of morality.

I question the morality of reality deniers.

10 Sophist, Gingham Style  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 11:59:36am

Hey, at least he's consistent. You don't have to try to figure out what his position is this week.

I suppose that's the best thing you can say about him, isn't it?

11 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:00:33pm

re: #3 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

more like "fuck todd akin with Osama Bin Laden's mummified penis just so we can say he had a little muslim in him"

//

You're evil. I can't get the taste of that image out of my head.

12 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:01:45pm

re: #11 Gangnam Style

LOL.

13 Mattand  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:03:03pm

re: #10 Sophist, Gingham Style

Hey, at least he's consistent. You don't have to try to figure out what his position is this week.

I suppose that's the best thing you can say about him, isn't it?

Kind of like my uncle. Unapologetic racist, but doesn't deny it. I absolutely despise his views on race, but at least he's honest about it.

14 Varek Raith  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:03:31pm

re: #1 darthstar

Fuck Todd Akin with Osama bin Laden's skull.

Speaking of bin Laden...

[Embedded content]

Gangnam style!
/The only gangnam joke I'll ever make. Ever.

Afternoon.

15 darthstar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:04:06pm
16 Bulworth  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:04:21pm
She labeled Ryan - who had been “arrested almost 350 times” by then - a “terrorist.” This is who Akin chose to get involved with in 1987 - and it gets worse. Ryan was pushed out as head of the Pro-Life Direct Action League around September 1987 and replaced by an aggressive, fundamentalist leader, Tim Dreste.

So the dude who was arrested a bunch of times (not sure if 350 is supposed to taken literally or figuratively) wasn't enough of a freak so they had to go hire someone else who was more of a lunatic to lead the group?

17 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:05:08pm
18 Kragar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:06:57pm

re: #17 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

*facepalm*

Image: kAL2uyupekOusHAN_yXp0w2.jpg

It makes at least as much sense as the "it makes Baby Jesus cry" argument.

19 Varek Raith  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:08:18pm

re: #17 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

*facepalm*

Image: kAL2uyupekOusHAN_yXp0w2.jpg

Hahahahahahahah!
Know what else is 2000 years old?
Jesus.
Bam!

20 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:08:46pm

re: #9 Kragar

I question the morality of reality deniers.

I question the reality of reality deniers. Which 8th century pre-enlightenment horror show do these people live in?

21 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:10:13pm

re: #3 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

more like "fuck todd akin with Osama Bin Laden's mummified penis just so we can say he had a little muslim in him"

//

Sorry, but bin Laden's dick joined the rest of him at the bottom of the ocean.

22 erik_t  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:10:29pm

re: #17 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

*facepalm*

Image: kAL2uyupekOusHAN_yXp0w2.jpg

I bet her parents are total quacks.

23 Kragar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:10:44pm

re: #21 Dark_Falcon

Sorry, but bin Laden's dick joined the rest of him at the bottom of the ocean.

Or did it....?

24 dragonfire1981  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:11:33pm

re: #17 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

*facepalm*

Image: kAL2uyupekOusHAN_yXp0w2.jpg

Did you notice the letter is written by a homeschooled 14 year old girl?

25 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:11:35pm

re: #23 Kragar

Or did it....?

Just asking questions again, Cartman?

26 HappyWarrior  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:11:42pm

Why is that race even close? Sigh to live in a rational world.

27 Kragar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:12:13pm

re: #25 Dark_Falcon

Just asking questions again, Cartman?

Bin Laden's dick truthers on the next Fox & Friends

28 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:12:19pm

re: #24 dragonfire1981

Did you notice the letter is written by a homeschooled 14 year old girl?

Yes, that makes it worse, much worse.

29 Kragar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:12:51pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

Why is that race even close? Sigh to live in a rational world.

The problem with game theory is that it assumes the players are all rational.

30 Tigger2  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:13:38pm

re: #17 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

*facepalm*

Image: kAL2uyupekOusHAN_yXp0w2.jpg

If you look at the bottom of her post. being 14 yo and homeschooled says it all.

31 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:13:47pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

Why is that race even close? Sigh to live in a rational world.

If it were a rational world, it would not be a human world.

32 Tigger2  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:14:24pm

re: #24 dragonfire1981

Did you notice the letter is written by a homeschooled 14 year old girl?

Must have been typing as you were posting. lol

33 HappyWarrior  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:14:46pm

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

If it were a rational world, it would not be a human world.

True that. Damn though. This guy's a lunatic. I wouldn't want him in the House of Delegates let alone a powerful body like the US Senate.

34 HappyWarrior  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:15:37pm

re: #17 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

*facepalm*

Image: kAL2uyupekOusHAN_yXp0w2.jpg

So the ducks are the real driving force behind the homosexual agenda. Guess the crabpeople were scapegoats for their duck overlords. Damn you Donald and Daffy!

35 kirkspencer  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:17:18pm

re: #16 Bulworth

So the dude who was arrested a bunch of times (not sure if 350 is supposed to taken literally or figuratively) wasn't enough of a freak so they had to go hire someone else who was more of a lunatic to lead the group?

No. John Ryan was kicked out because he was (allegedly) impure -- he left his wife for a younger woman. Linda Kimball, as I recall. Unfortunately for him his wife, while not as high in the organization, was better liked by some key people. To include Randall Terry, who was the major player involved in kicking Ryan out. (Largely, as I recall, by saying that as long as Ryan was an official voice of the DAL, Operation Rescue would not work with or share funding with that organization.)

36 Kragar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:17:29pm

re: #33 HappyWarrior

True that. Damn though. This guy's a lunatic. I wouldn't want him in the House of Delegates let alone a powerful body like the US Senate.

I don't want him in any house. Perhaps a cave in the woods. Better yet, an anchorage, where he can contemplate God's law to his heart's content.

37 Mattand  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:17:38pm

re: #33 HappyWarrior

True that. Damn though. This guy's a lunatic. I wouldn't want him in the House of Delegates let alone a powerful body like the US Senate.

Yet the Republican Party and their supporters keep nominating religion-addled, reality-denying idiots like this. Go figure...

38 HappyWarrior  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:18:07pm

re: #36 Kragar

I don't want him in any house. Perhaps a cave in the woods. Better yet, an anchorage, where he can contemplate God's law to his heart's content.

Just don't let him have any kind of responsibility with laws that affect people's lives.

39 HappyWarrior  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:18:24pm

re: #37 Mattand

Yet the Republican Party and their supporters keep nominating religion-addled, reality-denying idiots like this. Go figure...

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos. More seriously, yeah guys like Akin seem to be the norm not the exception to the rule.

40 Varek Raith  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:19:32pm

Martin Sheen and Woody Harrelson Sign Up For 9/11 Truther Movie ‘September Morn’

Normally, I’d ignore this kind of thing for the silliness that it is. But as the Truther movement’s ambitions have expanded cinematically, it also seems to have captured some new adherents, including two that could give the project a worrisome credibility.

41 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:19:47pm

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

If it were a rational world, it would not be a human world.

And there would be no pi as well, making it a sadder place.

42 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:20:54pm

re: #41 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

And there would be no pi as well, making it a sadder place.

Life is sad and empty without pi.

43 HappyWarrior  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:21:37pm

re: #40 Varek Raith

Martin Sheen and Woody Harrelson Sign Up For 9/11 Truther Movie ‘September Morn’

That stinks. I like both of them as actors. Still going to see Woody in Seven Psychopaths. McDonaugh's previous film In Bruges is probably my favorite comedy of the last decade.

44 Kragar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:27:51pm

Maryland Anti-Equality Campaign: Gays Who Don’t Change Are ‘Deserving Of Death’

consider the testimony of Pastor Robert Anderson, who joined the panel to share a Biblical perspective for why same-sex marriage should be opposed. After comparing homosexuality to prostitution, bestiality, polygamy, and incest, Anderson endorsed the Biblical interpretation that both gays and their allies are “deserving of death”:

ANDERSON: The Scriptures in Leviticus 18:22 — you know what that says, that a man is not to lay down with another man; if they do that, it’s an abomination. But there is one verse I really wanted to drive home and then I’ll stop, but that’s in Romans Chapter 1. And it’s the very last verse — as you know, Paul addresses this. Listen to the last verse: “Knowing the righteous judgment of God that those who practice such things are deserving of death. Not only do the same” — but watch this — “for those who also approve of those who practice these things.”

If we don’t vote against it, then we are approving these things that are worthy of death!

45 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:29:20pm

re: #40 Varek Raith

Martin Sheen and Woody Harrelson Sign Up For 9/11 Truther Movie ‘September Morn’

The comments on that post at TP are migraine-inducing. The truthers are coming out to protect their religion.

46 Varek Raith  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:29:59pm

re: #45 ArchangelMichael

The comments on that post at TP are migraine-inducing. The truthers are coming out to protect their religion.

Yep.
Morons.

47 darthstar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:30:31pm

re: #19 Varek Raith

Hahahahahahahah!
Know what else is 2000 years old?
Jesus.
Bam!

He never looks a day over 30.

48 The Mongoose  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:31:56pm

re: #46 Varek Raith

Yep.
Morons.

We should make our own film. Low budget but effective; it'll just be us locking birthers and truthers in a room together and recording the ensuring lunacy. Imagine the alliances that could form.

49 Kragar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:32:15pm

re: #47 darthstar

He never looks a day over 30.

Surprisingly European looking for a Middle Easterner.

50 kirkspencer  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:32:26pm

re: #44 Kragar

Maryland Anti-Equality Campaign: Gays Who Don’t Change Are ‘Deserving Of Death’

sigh.

And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean. [Acts 10:28]

51 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:32:31pm

re: #42 Sheila Broflovski

Life is sad and empty without pi.

Chocolate.

52 darthstar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:33:08pm

re: #49 Kragar

Surprisingly European looking for a Middle Easterner.

His daddy was Dutch.

53 Kragar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:33:14pm

re: #51 Gangnam Style

Chocolate.

Key Lime.

54 Kragar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:33:58pm

re: #52 darthstar

His daddy was Dutch.

2 things I can't stand. People who are intolerant of other cultures and the Dutch.

55 darthstar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:35:16pm

re: #54 Kragar

2 things I can't stand. People who are intolerant of other cultures and the Dutch.

They do make some hot little Au Pairs though...made my late teens and early twenties pleasantly memorable.

56 Kragar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:36:34pm

re: #55 darthstar

They do make some hot little Au Pairs though...made my late teens and early twenties pleasantly memorable.

At least they weren't Belge.

57 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:36:51pm

re: #53 Kragar

Key Lime.

Lemon meringue.

58 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:37:11pm

re: #53 Kragar

Key Lime.

Blueberry!

59 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:37:43pm

re: #58 Sheila Broflovski

Blueberry!

Saskatoon.

60 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:38:03pm

re: #4 Kragar

I've got a real problem with elected officials saying they put another set of laws ahead of the ones they were elected to uphold.

Yep, keep government out of their religious doings but quit your bitching when we want to put our religious doings into the government. For that kind of thinking I have a hearty FUCK YOU for them.

61 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:38:07pm

Damn, I'm hungry.

62 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:40:49pm

I am going to bake a blueberry pie this week.

63 makeitstop  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:40:55pm

Charles - Just a heads up. For the past hour or so, it looks as though the page never finishes loading for me. Everything seems to be performing correctly, but I can't seem to lose the little Windows spinny thing next to my cursor.

Win 7 / Chrome

64 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:41:03pm

re: #54 Kragar

2 things I can't stand. People who are intolerant of other cultures and the Dutch.

Reminds me of the anti-Chunnel activist who was interviewed on British TV back in the 80s. The Channel Tunnel had attracted a veritable zoo of opponents during the planning and construction phases, including this fellow's group. They had warned that the tunnel would allow "armed French police, French whores, and French rats" onto the sacred soil of Britain. This evidence notwithstanding, he was asked if his group was anti-French. He replied, "Certainly not. We like French wine and French food. We admire French art and architecture, and French culture. It's just the goddamned French people we can't stand."

65 darthstar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:41:29pm

re: #62 Sheila Broflovski

I am going to bake a blueberry pie this week.

I'm making Pumpkin.

66 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:41:42pm

re: #59 Gangnam Style

Saskatoon.

Ah yes, the province that is easy to draw but almost impossible to spell.

67 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:42:53pm

re: #66 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Ah yes, the province that is easy to draw but almost impossible to spell.

You're thinking of Saskatchewan. Saskatoon is a berry and a city named after the berry.

68 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:43:13pm

re: #57 Gangnam Style

Lemon meringue.

French Apple.

69 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:43:17pm

re: #49 Kragar

Shut yo mouth! /

If you ever get to the Church of the Annunciation in Nazareth, it's a real eye opener. The church, a modern structure built over ever more ancient church structures, has incorporated mosaics from dozens of nations around the world throughout the courtyard and interior spaces. Nearly all show Jesus and Mary as interpreted by their respective national donors.

It's an eye opener as to how religious faith is viewed through the prism of local traditions and how we view god in man's image.

70 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:43:38pm

re: #65 darthstar

I'm making Pumpkin.

I picked up a couple of small pumpkins when out shopping last week. Going to try out a variation on the stuffed pumpkin recipe I cooked last month. And should come out better cooking a 3lb gourd rather than the 8lb monster the last one was.

71 darthstar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:44:18pm

Ah...a pic of the deflating Romney campaign in Florida.

72 A Mom Anon  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:45:32pm

re: #51 Gangnam Style

Chocolate Pi(e). With whipped cream. And those little chocolate shavings on top....

73 darthstar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:45:37pm
74 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:45:55pm

re: #67 Gangnam Style

You're thinking of Saskatchewan. Saskatoon is a berry and a city named after the berry.

Learn something new every day.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

75 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:46:35pm

re: #64 Shiplord Kirel

Reminds me of the anti-Chunnel activist who was interviewed on British TV back in the 80s. The Channel Tunnel had attracted a veritable zoo of opponents during the planning and construction phases, including this fellow's group. They had warned that the tunnel would allow "armed French police, French whores, and French rats" onto the sacred soil of Britain. This evidence notwithstanding, he was asked if his group was anti-French. He replied, "Certainly not. We like French wine and French food. We admire French art and architecture, and French culture. It's just the goddamned French people we can't stand."

There was a famous 1870's headline in a British newspaper that was used anew a few years back when serious signaling problems combined with heavy fog shut down non-aerial transportation between England and France:

"Fog in Channel, Continent cut off."

76 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:46:41pm

re: #52 darthstar

His daddy was Dutch.

I'd have gone with Amish, him being an excellent carpenter and all.

(Edit: I know god was supposedly his daddy, so his step-daddy)

77 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:46:48pm

re: #70 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I picked up a couple of small pumpkins when out shopping last week. Going to try out a variation on the stuffed pumpkin recipe I cooked last month. And should come out better cooking a 3lb gourd rather than the 8lb monster the last one was.

I picked up a couple of small pumpkins for the coming pumpkin wars. I'm just about finished my pumpkin launcher.

78 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:48:49pm

re: #73 darthstar

Image: 644609_10152207746975545_440007659_n.jpg

Seriously, Darth, comparing Mitt Romney to the Chinese Communist Party during the Tiananmen Square crackdown is way over the line.

79 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:48:58pm

re: #24 dragonfire1981

yes i did notice it and that makes it even more of a face palm.

80 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:51:18pm
81 Interesting Times  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:51:39pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

Getting back to the original post topic, has your father donated to Todd Akin using the same rationale as for Joe Walsh?

82 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:53:11pm

re: #73 darthstar

For historical reference, the tanks seen in that photo are Type 59s. An older type copied from the Soviet T-55, it has been mostly phased out of service in China's army. Saddam Hussein purchased hundreds of these tanks from China in the 1980's, most those that survived the war with Iran (which also purchased Type-59s from China) were destroyed by air attacks or tank gunfire in 1991.

83 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:53:45pm

re: #81 Interesting Times

Getting back to the original post topic, has your father donated to Todd Akin using the same rationale as for Joe Walsh?

No. Akin's not from Illinois.

84 Interesting Times  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:54:26pm

re: #83 Dark_Falcon

No. Akin's not from Illinois.

If he were, would your father donate to him?

85 dragonfire1981  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:54:52pm
86 darthstar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:57:01pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

Seriously, Darth, comparing Mitt Romney to the Chinese Communist Party during the Tiananmen Square crackdown is way over the line.

Those are just company cars there to protect the workers from having other people come work for the company he outsourced...it's so popular they have to have guard towers to keep people from climbing the fences and joining the company. Imagine what it must be like to be an HR coordinator at one of those factories!

87 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:57:16pm

re: #84 Interesting Times

If he were, would your father donate to him?

I confess that I do not know. I can only say with certainty that my father would not have voted for Akin or given him money in the primary.

88 darthstar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:57:56pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

I confess that I do not know. I can only say with certainty that my father would not have voted for Akin or given him money in the primary.

Unless he was running against a Democrat.

89 Interesting Times  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 1:01:31pm

re: #85 dragonfire1981

Amazon bans customer, deletes her kindle library and tells her to go shop somewhere else

This is why I don't want to go digital.

The problem isn't digital, it's DRM (Draconian Ridiculous Monstrosity)

But thanks for posting this (I think it's Pageworthy). Was thinking of getting a Kindle, but certainly won't now.

90 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 1:02:44pm

re: #86 darthstar

You don't use tanks for road patrol, Darth. They're too hard on themselves mechanically for that. And when dealing with internal unrest, even China normally finds 100mm canister shells rather over the top. No, armored cars able to resist small arms fire is what China uses for road patrol. Although the latest ones have v-shaped armored bottoms in order to increase IED survivability.

91 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 1:03:02pm

re: #89 Interesting Times

The problem isn't digital, it's DRM (Draconian Ridiculous Monstrosity)

But thanks for posting this (I think it's Pageworthy). Was thinking of getting a Kindle, but certainly won't now.

Ditto.

92 darthstar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 1:05:12pm

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

You don't use tanks for road patrol, Darth. They're too hard on themselves mechanically for that. And when dealing with internal unrest, even China normally finds 100mm canister shells rather over the top. No, armored cars able to resist small arms fire is what China uses for road patrol. Although the latest ones have v-shaped armored bottoms in order to increase IED survivability.

You do if you want to kill irony.

93 erik_t  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 1:06:27pm

re: #92 darthstar

You do if you want to kill irony.

Quoting arcane details is an excellent way to distract from salient discussion.

94 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 1:07:15pm

re: #92 darthstar

You do if you want to kill irony.

If I want to kill irony symbolized by a platoon of Type 59s, I'd prefer to use a Predator drone and some Hellfire ATGMs.

95 Kragar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 1:07:16pm

I just figured out a way to turn a 200 man hour process into a 100 man hour process, HUZZAH!

96 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 1:08:23pm

re: #95 Kragar

I just figured out a way to turn a 200 man hour process into a 100 man hour process, HUZZAH!

Cool. now, how will you use that knowledge to make money? :)

97 Kragar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 1:09:50pm

re: #96 Dark_Falcon

Cool. now, how will you use that knowledge to make money? :)

Step 1) Document the process to earn a bonus.
Step 2) use the saved hours to goof off more.

98 darthstar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 1:10:40pm

re: #93 erik_t

Quoting arcane details is an excellent way to distract from salient discussion.

You don't attempt salient discussion when you don't have any facts to support your argument. The P-22 Bomber with 13 .50 cal machine guns on each wheel turret, while ineffective, illustrate the need for the updated IED resistent MRAVs for patrolling shopping malls during back-to-school sales, where most experts agree Iran buys the neon clothes necessary to make any discussion of fashion at the UN completely radioactive. That said, a strap of leather with loaded with a rock will take down a giant when slung appropriately.

99 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 1:11:22pm

re: #40 Varek Raith

Martin Sheen and Woody Harrelson Sign Up For 9/11 Truther Movie ‘September Morn’

Back in 2007, Charlie Sheen was supposed to narrate a theatrical release of the ridiculous "Loose Change", which was the first of a horrendous line of 911 Truth videos. It was going to be financed by Mark Cuban, noted lunatic and owner of the Dallas Mavericks. It never happened, probably due in no small part to the fact that everyone involved in it was batshit crazy.

I'm sketchy on the details of "September Morn", but it also involves Ed Asner, who outed himself as a Truther around 2006-2007.

100 darthstar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 1:11:30pm

re: #96 Dark_Falcon

Cool. now, how will you use that knowledge to make money? :)

Use 2 1/2 employees when it used to take five.

101 Kragar  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 1:14:47pm

re: #100 darthstar

Use 2 1/2 employees when it used to take five.

Considering all 200 man hours are currently done by me, I'll take what I can get.

102 Gus  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 1:15:20pm
103 Varek Raith  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 1:15:40pm

re: #95 Kragar

I just figured out a way to turn a 200 man hour process into a 100 man hour process, HUZZAH!

You release those Oompa-Loompas this minute!
They're my rancor's dinner.

104 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 1:18:55pm

re: #97 Kragar

Step 1) Document the process to earn a bonus.
Step 2) use the saved hours to goof off more.

Very cool. Congrats.

105 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 1:28:13pm

I think the Romney bots would prefer the T-59s over other alternatives like the M-1 or even the Hellfire drone for their requirements. The latter two are made in the USA by union labor. Can't have that when the T-59s can be cheaply outsourced. The T-59s are also big, scary-looking, unpopular with environmentalists, and otherwise wholly in tune with the suburban SUV ethos.

106 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 1:39:58pm

re: #105 Shiplord Kirel

Nope. Type 59s are ineffective and can't get the job done. China doesn't even build 'em anymore.

Mitt Romney wouldn't order production of something he knew would disastrously fail. There's no money to be made that way, and it can cost you your reputation. No, Mitt's not such a fool.

107 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 22, 2012 1:42:34pm

Type 59s are also quite small compared to the M-1 and actually get higher gas mileage (not kidding). I'd be like buying low-powered Smartcars instead of GTOs. You'd have to be French-Canadian to do that. (that last is kidding.)


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