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1 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:26:25am

I know many have said it and I'll agree that the only poll that really matters is the one that happens Tuesday.

But to believe Silver is totally wrong at this point, you have to believe that most of the pollsters are wrong and there's something going on in the swing states that none of them are accounting for. And if that's the case, then there's gonna be calls for a lot of heads Wednesday morning.

2 Kragar  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:28:01am

SKEW DAMMIT, SKEW!!!

3 Lidane  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:28:32am

The polls are skewed! Math is evil! Lamestream media! Nate Silver is of teh debil!

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4 GunstarGreen  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:29:42am

Librul Bias! In the tank for Nobammy! Sleeping giant!

5 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:30:16am

He still gives Florida to Romney by 58%. That's still fixable, and we've got 5 days to do it.

6 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:31:07am

re: #5 Decatur Deb

He still gives Florida to Romney by 58%. That's still fixable, and we've got 5 days to do it.

Good luck. I think you guys can do it.

7 Kragar  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:31:50am

O’Reilly producer interviews drunk partyers to gauge ‘single lady’ vote

It’s no secret that women will be an important voting bloc next Tuesday when the nation goes to the polls to elect its next president. Wednesday on “The O’Reilly Factor,” Fox News’s Bill O’Reilly wondered which way women will vote on November 6 and sent producer Jesse Watters to interview some young, single women voters.

“We decided to do our own investigation,” O’Reilly said, “and that involved sending Jesse Watters out to canvass the ‘single ladies,’ who themselves were out socializing, pre-Halloween.”

The pundit then rolled Watters’s segment, which began with lots of women of approximately college age spliced together announcing their intention to “party.”

When the producer asked the women who they plan to vote for, the answers were varied, and about what a viewer would expect from political questions posed to people in bars.

8 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:32:15am

re: #5 Decatur Deb

He still gives Florida to Romney by 58%. That's still fixable, and we've got 5 days to do it.

I'll say this much, if Obama wins Florida and Ohio, then it's over. Somebody tell the fat lady to start warming up.

9 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:33:26am

re: #7 Kragar

O’Reilly producer interviews drunk partyers to gauge ‘single lady’ vote

My wife's nun friend is a 70yr old single lady. O'Reilly would not air her responses.

10 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:33:39am

re: #7 Kragar

O’Reilly producer interviews drunk partyers to gauge ‘single lady’ vote

Gotta love Fox's hard-hitting journalism.

11 danarchy  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:33:48am

Nate's conservative opposite over at Electionprojection.com projects an Obama electoral college victory as well.

12 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:34:25am

Fischer: 'There Will be Blood' and 'Civil Unrest' if Obama Loses

On yesterday's radio program, Bryan Fischer expounded on a tweet he sent out the other day predicting that there would be organized "flash mobs" who would loot and riot if Mitt Romney wins the election. Fischer based this theory on reports of looting in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy, saying such looting "is just a preview of what's going to happen if President Obama loses the election" and warning that "there will be blood" and "civil unrest"

13 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:34:37am

re: #6 HappyWarrior

Good luck. I think you guys can do it.

Have to. If we do it, the Alabama Dem's election-night party gets much better.

14 Kragar  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:35:09am

Colbert calls Trump his ‘future scrotum holster’

In response to Trump’s “October Surprise,” an offer of $5 million to the charity of the president’s choosing if he would reveal his college records and applications and passport application to the reality TV mogul. Colbert took it upon himself to stage a counter-agreement with Trump, that he would donate a million dollars from the Colbert super PAC to any charity Trump chooses, “One million actual dollars if you will let me dip my balls in your mouth,” he said.

15 erik_t  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:35:29am

re: #12 The Ghost of a Flea

Fischer: 'There Will be Blood' and 'Civil Unrest' if Obama Loses

The blahs have no ability to cope with failure except via rioting.

16 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:36:13am
17 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:36:21am

re: #12 The Ghost of a Flea

Fischer: 'There Will be Blood' and 'Civil Unrest' if Obama Loses

Remind me Mr. Fischer, who said "we came unarmed" this time, here's a hint, it wasn't Obama supporters or people of the left. Fischer needs a home theater for all the projections he puts on.

18 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:36:29am

re: #12 The Ghost of a Flea

Fischer: 'There Will be Blood' and 'Civil Unrest' if Obama Loses

I'd be more inclined to believe his prediction if he'd said it about Romney. After 4 years of hating the man with a passion that burns hotter than the fire of a thousand suns, watching Tuesday as Obama wins reelection despite it being "impossible" is very likely to throw a lot of wingers into a murderous rage.

19 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:37:30am

re: #7 Kragar

Woooow!

Douchequake!!!

20 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:39:23am

re: #15 erik_t

The blahs have no ability to cope with failure except via rioting.

Cue yet another round of nutjob death porn fanfiction about shooting liberals and blacks in self defense.

Cockpunch.

21 makeitstopghazi  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:40:06am

re: #12 The Ghost of a Flea

Fischer: 'There Will be Blood' and 'Civil Unrest' if Obama Loses

I said it downstairs - they're becoming increasingly desperate at we get closer to the election.

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see a high-profile SuperPAC do a big buy in the next couple of days, running a Birther ad.

It's getting to the point where it's all they've got left.

22 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:40:29am

re: #20 The Ghost of a Flea

Cue yet another round of nutjob death porn fanfiction about shooting liberals and blacks in self defense.

Cockpunch.

Need that lady's picture on a t-shirt.

23 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:41:54am

re: #20 The Ghost of a Flea

Cue yet another round of nutjob death porn fanfiction about shooting liberals and blacks in self defense.

Cockpunch.

Which will be said with no irony while claiming that the left are the real violent ones. It's an all too common tactic.

24 mr.fusion  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:43:26am

Luckily, real Americans have the final unskewedpolls.com projections to tell them the real truth

Unskewedpolls.com

The QStarNews projection of the 2012 presidential race sees Mitt Romney being elected the next president of the United States with 53.63 percent of the popular vote and 359 electoral votes to President Obama's 45.92 percent and 179 electoral votes.

Image: map_unskewed_projection_10_25_2012.gif

Just too funny. Wonder what this guy is going to be saying on Wednesday?

25 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:44:15am

re: #24 mr.fusion

Luckily, real Americans have the final unskewedpolls.com projections to tell them the real thruth

Unskewedpolls.com

Image: map_unskewed_projection_10_25_2012.gif

Just too funny. Wonder what this guy is going to be saying on Wednesday?

"Buy Gold !!1!"

26 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:45:17am

re: #24 mr.fusion

Luckily, real Americans have the final unskewedpolls.com projections to tell them the real thruth

Unskewedpolls.com

Image: map_unskewed_projection_10_25_2012.gif

Just too funny. Wonder what this guy is going to be saying on Wednesday?

And he accuses Nate of letting his biases effect his judgment.

27 Kragar  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:46:24am

re: #24 mr.fusion

Luckily, real Americans have the final unskewedpolls.com projections to tell them the real thruth

Unskewedpolls.com

Image: map_unskewed_projection_10_25_2012.gif

Just too funny. Wonder what this guy is going to be saying on Wednesday?

"Herp de derp."

28 erik_t  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:46:32am

re: #24 mr.fusion

Luckily, real Americans have the final unskewedpolls.com projections to tell them the real thruth

54%?! lol

29 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:46:34am

re: #19 ProGunLiberal

Woooow!

Douchequake!!!

Wouldn't 'doucheflood' be more apropos?

30 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:46:49am

re: #23 HappyWarrior

Which will be said with no irony while claiming that the left are the real violent ones. It's an all too common tactic.

The first rule of authoritarian political violence is, It's always in self-defence, but especially we you strike first.

31 erik_t  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:47:15am

The entire Midwest, save Chicago-Style-Politics (TM), deep red.

Hilarious.

Even St. Reagan couldn't pull that off.

32 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:47:35am

re: #30 The Ghost of a Flea

The first rule of authoritarian political violence is, It's always in self-defence, but especially we you strike first.

Yep. Rule two would be "The victim deserved it anyhow because they're evil."

33 OhNoZombies!  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:47:47am

re: #12 The Ghost of a Flea

Fischer: 'There Will be Blood' and 'Civil Unrest' if Obama Loses

Switch that to gun totin' "patriots", and an Obama win, and he might be on to something.

34 JamesWI  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:48:13am

Desperation - Romney's Fla. ads tie Obama to Chavez, Castro

Mitt Romney's campaign is running a Spanish-language ad in Florida that claims Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro's niece would support President Barack Obama.

The spot shows a clip of Chavez saying that if he were American, "I'd vote for Obama." The Venezuelan leader did say that in September, when he also called Obama "a good guy.".....

......There's a similar clip featuring Castro's niece, Mariela, who has no official link to the Cuban government. She's a noted advocate of gay rights and has praised Obama's stand in support of same sex marriage.

35 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:48:57am
36 Kragar  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:49:28am

Nate Silver to Scarborough: Bet you $1,000 Romney loses

New York Times statistician and Five Thirty Eight blogger Nate Silver has bet MSNBC pundit and host of “Morning Joe,” Joe Scarborough $1,000 that his statistical model holds true and that President Barack Obama wins re-election. According to Atlantic Monthly‘s Atlantic Wire blog, Silver posted the challenge to his Twitter account on Wednesday after Scarborough spent the morning broadcast attempting to savage Silver’s credibility.

“If you think it’s a toss-up, let’s bet. If Obama wins, you donate $1,000 to the American Red Cross. If Romney wins, I do. Deal?” Silver tweeted.

He was responding to remarks Scarborough made on Monday calling the race a dead heat and impugning Silver’s objectivity.

“Anybody that thinks that this race is anything but a toss-up right now is such an ideologue,” Scarborough said, “They should be kept away from typewriters, computers, laptops, and microphones for the next ten days, because they’re jokes.”

37 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:50:12am

A good phlebotomist is one where you don't feel the prick, I think she was trying to put it in the bone.
I know boo-friggin-hoo.

38 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:50:38am

re: #34 JamesWI

Desperation - Romney's Fla. ads tie Obama to Chavez, Castro

And this fucker complains when his record at Bain is analyzed. Fuck you Romney, fuck you very much.

39 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:50:50am

re: #24 mr.fusion

Luckily, real Americans have the final unskewedpolls.com projections to tell them the real thruth

Unskewedpolls.com

Image: map_unskewed_projection_10_25_2012.gif

Just too funny. Wonder what this guy is going to be saying on Wednesday?

Even has Oregon going red, which if it actually happened, would very likely be seen as proof that the Mayans were right.

Something tells me that Chambers is gonna be one of the first to scream "voter fraud!"

40 makeitstopghazi  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:52:26am

New OFA ad - another callout of Mitt's Jeep ad.

'We know the truth, governor.' Heh.

41 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:52:56am

re: #37 Shropshire_Slasher

A good phlebotomist is one where you don't feel the prick, I think she was trying to put it in the bone.
I know boo-friggin-hoo.

Are you saying you gave blood?

42 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:53:00am

re: #39 Targetpractice

Even has Oregon going red, which if it actually happened, would very likely be seen as proof that the Mayans were right.

Something tells me that Chambers is gonna be one of the first to scream "voter fraud!"

Minnesota which hasn't gone Republican since 1972 too. He's delusional.

43 Kragar  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:53:05am

re: #39 Targetpractice

Even has Oregon going red, which if it actually happened, would very likely be seen as proof that the Mayans were right.

Something tells me that Chambers is gonna be one of the first to scream "voter fraud!"

Oh, there is some fraud going around.
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44 darthstar  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:53:22am

re: #24 mr.fusion

Luckily, real Americans have the final unskewedpolls.com projections to tell them the real truth

Unskewedpolls.com

Image: map_unskewed_projection_10_25_2012.gif


Just too funny. Wonder what this guy is going to be saying on Wednesday?

Those folks at unskewed are screwed.

45 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:53:37am

Meatloaf's concert postponed
[Link: www.timesunion.com...]
Mess with the bull, your gonna get the horns.

46 Kragar  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:53:49am

re: #41 wrenchwench

Are you saying you gave blood?

I keep trying to give blood, but they never accept the buckets.
/

47 DisturbedEma  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:54:00am

First thing to hit the brain? "Are you gonna believe me or what your lying eyes are telling you?" or something like that. . .

Here in Wisconsin, we have quite the line up. Obama in Ashwaubenon this past week, where I went to high school, Biden in Beloit, and Obama in Milwaukee on Saturday.

I believe the douches on the other ticket are here too, but I have blanked out their locations to preserve my sanity. . .

48 Bronco Bama FTW  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:54:11am

Nate from Tuesday:

Mr. Obama’s lead in the Electoral College is modest, but also quite consistent across the different methods. The states in which every site has Mr. Obama leading make up 271 electoral votes — one more than the president needs to clinch victory. The states in which everyone has Mr. Romney ahead represent 206 electoral votes. That leaves five states, and 61 electoral votes, unaccounted for — but Mr. Obama would not need them if he prevails in the states where he is leading in the polls.

49 darthstar  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:54:41am

re: #46 Kragar

I keep trying to give blood, but they never accept the buckets.
/

You're supposed to give your own blood.

50 GunstarGreen  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:54:44am

re: #36 Kragar

Nate Silver to Scarborough: Bet you $1,000 Romney loses

Much like Hannity getting waterboarded, Joe won't take up the offer.

Right-wing pundits are notoriously bad when it comes to putting their money where their mouth is.

51 Gus  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:54:45am

re: #34 JamesWI

Desperation - Romney's Fla. ads tie Obama to Chavez, Castro

I know. This is pretty outrageous but serves a purpose to show how much the wingnuts have an influence with the Romney camp.

52 Kragar  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:55:15am

Conservatives Bash Christie For Cooperating With Obama Post-Sandy

Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh, who normally reserves his derision for Democrats, went so far as to say of Christie: “He’s fat and a fool. Don’t listen to Governor Christie. He doesn’t know what he’s talking about.” But Limbaugh clinched the quote with his reasoning for being so vicious: “He makes fun of me all the time.”

53 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:55:32am

re: #41 wrenchwench

Oh yeah, I gave :(

54 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:56:12am

re: #52 Kragar

Conservatives Bash Christie For Cooperating With Obama Post-Sandy

I wonder if Christie is going to end up like another Republican governor with a similar name.

55 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:56:57am

re: #44 darthstar

Those folks at unskewed are screwed.

Don't knock 'Unskewed'. He's the only thing keeping Freepers off the Amtrack rails.

56 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:57:34am

re: #48 Locker

Nate from Tuesday:

And he's right, to believe at this point that Willard can pull it off, you have to believe that the polls are not reading something happening on the ground across several states. Not impossible, but very highly improbable. He's posited that the only possible explanation at that point is that the state polls were overestimating Obama's support, but if that's the case, then Silver's gonna be amongst good company in predicting a whole mess of states in Obama's favor.

57 Kragar  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:57:37am

re: #49 darthstar

You're supposed to give your own blood.

Not allowed to for health reasons, previous exposure related issues.

58 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:57:37am

Unhinged local leadership will be a wild card in the Republican response to an Obama victory. Lubbock's Judge Tom Head became a global laughing stock a few weeks ago for suggesting the county should prepare to resist the UN troops Obama plans to bring in after the election. At least one county attorney in this part of the country has bought into the Sovereign Citizen myth that county sheriffs can overrule any and all action by state or federal officials. These crazy people are not at all a rarity among local parties around the country. I don't think this has received enough attention, partly because the national party naturally refuses to acknowledge that these people even exist. It's one thing for a lone wolf nut to reject the results of an election, quite another if an elected official at any level does it. Chances are that any official who tried to take action against the federal government would simply be arrested by the local police. This might not happen in every case however. We could see yokel sheriffs locking federal offices, illegally arresting the opposition, and trying to interfere with election certification.
They would be squashed flat of course, but given the right combination of conspiracy beliefs and mob support, it could be ugly.

59 darthstar  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:58:14am

re: #37 Shropshire_Slasher

A good phlebotomist is one where you don't feel the prick, I think she was trying to put it in the bone.
I know boo-friggin-hoo.

And here I always thought I was getting a compliment when my girlfriends told me I'd be a good phlebotomist.

60 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:58:16am

re: #57 Kragar

Not allowed to for health reasons, previous exposure related issues.

Europe, 1980s?

61 darthstar  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:58:42am

re: #57 Kragar

Not allowed to for health reasons, previous exposure related issues.

Fine...keep tapping into strangers then.

62 909Ghazis  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:59:05am

re: #52 Kragar

Conservatives Bash Christie For Cooperating With Obama Post-Sandy

I guess they wanted him to run out on the tarmac and wave off the plane. Christie is finding out who loves him, and more importantly, his fellow citizens of New Jersey.

63 Kragar  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:59:11am

re: #60 Targetpractice

Europe, 1980s?

Relates to my time in service.

64 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:59:59am

re: #57 Kragar

Not allowed to for health reasons, previous exposure related issues.

You got the commissary beef too, huh?

65 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:00:20am

re: #24 mr.fusion

Luckily, real Americans have the final unskewedpolls.com projections to tell them the real truth

Unskewedpolls.com

Image: map_unskewed_projection_10_25_2012.gif

Just too funny. Wonder what this guy is going to be saying on Wednesday?

He's going to yell "FIX!" just like a lot of other deluded people facing a reality they do not want to accept.

66 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:00:21am

re: #63 Kragar

Relates to my time in service.

Ah. I'm barred on account of living as a military dependent in Europe during the Mad Cow scare of the 80s.

67 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:00:21am

re: #60 Targetpractice

Europe, 1980s?

Actually, that's why I can't give blood. Roast beef and Yorkshire pudding in Oxford during the mad cow era. I keep checking to see if they've lifted the exclusion.

I hit the donation box at the Red Cross website instead.

68 aagcobb  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:01:34am

re: #24 mr.fusion

Luckily, real Americans have the final unskewedpolls.com projections to tell them the real truth

Unskewedpolls.com

Image: map_unskewed_projection_10_25_2012.gif

Just too funny. Wonder what this guy is going to be saying on Wednesday?

VOTER FRAUD!!11!!

69 OhNoZombies!  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:01:58am

Negative ads from 1800.
Candidates own words:

70 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:02:43am

re: #66 Targetpractice

Ah. I'm barred on account of living as a military dependent in Europe during the Mad Cow scare of the 80s.

My family too, although this year a Florida clinic let my daughter donate bone marrow/stem cells. We might have aged out of the quarantine.

71 HappyBenghazi  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:05:04am

re: #69 R.M, Ramallo

Negative ads from 1800.
Candidates own words:

[Embedded content]

That's great. I did a research paper on that election when I took a class on the revolutionary era. It's also a nice reminder to people who act like the campaigns have gotten too hateful. For further reference look at the election of 1824 where Jackson's wife was pretty much called a slut.

72 Digital Display  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:05:23am

Well I went on the record here after the debates to declare Obama the winner and will be elected for a second term. It's a gut feeling and I'm usually right. I don't really follow polls and I'm pretty sick of them.

73 Kragar  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:05:45am
74 Joanne  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:06:23am

re: #69 R.M, Ramallo

Negative ads from 1800.
Candidates own words:

[Embedded content]

I've seen stuff like this before and it is the only thing that makes me think we're worse off as I always think...we've always been like this. :-D

75 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:06:48am

re: #44 darthstar

Those folks at unskewed are screwed.

Are you kidding? They're going to change their name and be back next election. It's not about being accurate, it's about providing grist for the Republican mill. This wasn't a failure for them, they did the job they were supposed to do.

76 OhNoZombies!  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:06:53am

re: #71 HappyWarrior

That's great. I did a research paper on that election when I took a class on the revolutionary era. It's also a nice reminder to people who act like the campaigns have gotten too hateful. For further reference look at the election of 1824 where Jackson's wife was pretty much called a slut.

Will do.
Someone may have even done a voice over for it on the Youtube.

77 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:06:53am

re: #70 Decatur Deb

My family too, although this year a Florida clinic let my daughter donate bone marrow/stem cells. We might have aged out of the quarantine.

They're now saying that the incubation period of prion diseases like CJD might be 30-50 years. So I'm not sure I'll be able to give blood before I get old enough to start needing blood transfusions myself.

78 aagcobb  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:07:20am

re: #8 Targetpractice

I'll say this much, if Obama wins Florida and Ohio, then it's over. Somebody tell the fat lady to start warming up.

If Obama wins either Ohio or Florida, its over. Unless the polls are very wrong, there is no way for Romney to get to 270 without both of them.

79 prairiefire  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:07:25am

re: #70 Decatur Deb

My family too, although this year a Florida clinic let my daughter donate bone marrow/stem cells. We might have aged out of the quarantine.

Yeah, I talked to some gals who were fundraising for organ donation and they said that there was such a need, that guideline was often being ignored.
My 30 year anniversary after eating English roast beef sandwiches for 3 months at school was this year. Still haven't started snorting and stomping the ground, at least not at the same time.

80 Kragar  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:08:12am

Catholic Bishop Who Compared Obama To Hitler Orders Anti-Obama Letter Read From Pulpit

In a letter, Jenky told the priests in his diocese “by virtue of your vow of obedience to me as your Bishop, I require that this letter be personally read by each celebrating priest at each Weekend Mass, November 3/4.” The letter leaves little doubt that Jenky wants Obama out of the White House:

Neither the president of the United States nor the current majority of the Federal Senate have been willing to even consider the Catholic community’s grave objections to those HHS mandates that would require all Catholic institutions, exempting only our church buildings, to fund abortion, sterilization, and artificial contraception. . . . Nearly two thousand years ago, after our Savior had been bound, beaten, scourged, mocked, and crowned with thorns, a pagan Roman Procurator displayed Jesus to a hostile crowd by sarcastically declaring: Behold your King. The mob roared back: We have no king but Caesar. Today, Catholic politicians, bureaucrats, and their electoral supporters who callously enable the destruction of innocent human life in the womb also thereby reject Jesus as their Lord. They are objectively guilty of grave sin.

For those who hope for salvation, no political loyalty can ever take precedence over loyalty to the Lord Jesus Christ and to his Gospel of Life. God is not mocked, and as the Bible clearly teaches, after this passing instant of life on earth, God’s great mercy in time will give way to God’s perfect judgment in eternity.

I therefore call upon every practicing Catholic in this Diocese to vote. Be faithful to Christ and to your Catholic Faith.

81 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:08:47am

re: #73 Kragar

69 Percent Of Outside Money Benefited Romney And Republicans

And yet they're still on track to lose the presidency and the Senate majority.

What are the odds that, after this election, they'll be more amenable to addressing the regulatory need in the wake of Citizens United?

82 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:08:50am

re: #77 Targetpractice

They're now saying that the incubation period of prion diseases like CJD might be 30-50 years. So I'm not sure I'll be able to give blood before I get old enough to start needing blood transfusions myself.

Our risk of exposure ended in '92. This might have been an experiment or a desperate case. The clinic is highly regarded.

83 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:09:06am

In Harry Turteldove's alternate history, The Victorious Opposition, Union General MacArthur rolls tanks through the streets of Lubbock to confront Confederate rioters in a local park. He ends up using canister shot to disperse them. Later, the Army Air Corps firebombs downtown Lubbock and the Army shells it with giant railway guns.
(This is all set in the 1930s in a world where the Confederacy won the Civil War but lost the Great War of 1914-17, and where Lubbock is the capital of the new Union state of Houston.)
Harry was here in 2000 doing research for the book. I wonder if he met some of the local Republicans and decided to include some veiled prophecy in his fictional history.

84 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:09:31am
85 darthstar  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:09:48am

re: #75 Sophist, Gingham Style

Here's the thing about Republicans. Yes, they hate having a black president...but they actually hate having a Democratic one more, so race isn't their primary motivation (it's part, but not all of it). They can make as much noise and complain about Democratic policies as they like, because at the end of the day, if the policies are implemented, they benefit along with everyone else, so in their minds, they see no risk. If, perchance, they win, and the people they backed create policies that fuck them over, they can still blame the Democrats for making it possible.

They're seriously fucked in the head.

86 Kragar  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:10:03am

re: #84 wrenchwench

Does that mean we can tax them now?

I believe you mean TAX THE FUCK OUT OF THEM, and I would say yes.

87 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:11:24am

re: #72 Digital Display

Well I went on the record here after the debates to declare Obama the winner and will be elected for a second term. It's a gut feeling and I'm usually right. I don't really follow polls and I'm pretty sick of them.

Like many I already voted. Laughing with Donna aka D-L just this morning after a Feinstein spot-"You know what's great about early voting? You can ignore the commercials. You know what sucks about early voting? You CAN'T really ignore the annoying commercials."

88 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:12:57am

re: #84 wrenchwench

Does that mean we can tax them now?

Had a qualm about supporting the FL black churches' "Souls-to-Polls" effort. Managed to set it aside until my wife's bishops STFU.

89 aagcobb  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:14:35am

re: #83 Shiplord Kirel

In Harry Turteldove's alternate history, The Victorious Opposition, Union General MacArthur rolls tanks through the streets of Lubbock to confront Confederate rioters in a local park. He ends up using canister shot to disperse them. Later, the Army Air Corps firebombs downtown Lubbock and the Army shells it with giant railway guns.
(This is all set in the 1930s in a world where the Confederacy won the Civil War but lost the Great War of 1914-17, and where Lubbock is the capital of the new Union state of Houston.)
Harry was here in 2000 doing research for the book. I wonder if he met some of the local Republicans and decided to include some veiled prophecy in his fictional history.

My dad's hometown, Calhoun, Kentucky, made it into one of those books as well (Union tanks camoflauged as Confederates seized the bridge, which I've crossed many times, by surprise). I think the vast majority of the freeper set talk a big game, but when it comes right down to it, they are just keyboard warriors. So we don't have to fear civil war, just terrorist attacks by the few crazy McVeigh types.

90 Talking Point Detective  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:16:37am

Sam Wang has an interesting discussion about the discrepancy between the national and state polls:

In this year's race, national polls show a tie, while state polls show a decisive Obama advantage. Here I suggest that the difference may arise from the fact that the same systematic pollster errors can have different effects depending on whether they occur in national vs. state surveys. Based on past elections, national poll aggregates differ from election results by as much as 2.5%. During the same period, state-poll aggregation has been considerably more accurate. Even if state polls have the same accuracy as national polls, races at that level are usually decided by larger margins, leaving room for aggregation to remove the effect of the error. I suggest that the Meta-Analysis of state polls provides a more accurate poll-based prediction of next Tuesday's outcome than national polls.

[Link: election.princeton.edu...]

91 Joanne  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 11:26:41am

re: #85 darthstar

Here's the thing about Republicans. Yes, they hate having a black president...but they actually hate having a Democratic one more, so race isn't their primary motivation (it's part, but not all of it). They can make as much noise and complain about Democratic policies as they like, because at the end of the day, if the policies are implemented, they benefit along with everyone else, so in their minds, they see no risk. If, perchance, they win, and the people they backed create policies that fuck them over, they can still blame the Democrats for making it possible.

They're seriously fucked in the head.

Exactly. No matter the Dem they would be like this. Remember Citizens United Not Timid? If Hillary was POTUS, she wouldn't be blackity black, she'd be a cu*tyc*nt., emotional, bleeding heart liberal, THE MOST LIBERAL EVAH!!!11!

I only wonder what more Fox and the Right Wing blobs can make up that is more off the wall than now.

92 BadgerB  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 12:30:30pm

re: #84 wrenchwench

Does that mean we can tax them now?

I would say no but we could use 'tax reform' as an opportunity to do away with charitable deductions from all sources including religious institutions.

I don't think they should be taxed on the money that is donated, I'm OK with the concept of non-profit, but the government shouldn't be refunding any of it back to the givers, especially in ways that are worth more to people in the higher tax brackets.

93 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 12:52:49pm

re: #80 Kragar

Hmm. Isn't there a Commandment about outright lying:

Neither the president of the United States nor the current majority of the Federal Senate have been willing to even consider the Catholic community’s grave objections to those HHS mandates


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