Jon Stewart on the Bizarre Fox News Defense of Former Rutgers Coach Mike Rice
It seems like the show of a guy who was hit with a belt as a child
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Targetpractice Fri, Apr 5, 2013 7:06:10pm |
“The wussification of America”? Seriously, how fucking deranged does one have to be to believe that the ideal male behavior in America is to be a rage-filled, violent asshole?
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The Ghost of a Flea Fri, Apr 5, 2013 7:08:45pm |
re: #1 Targetpractice
“The wussification of America”? Seriously, how fucking deranged does one have to be to believe that the ideal
malewhite Christian male in a position of authoritybehavior in America is to be a rage-filled, violent asshole?
Altered to more accurately communicate Hannity’s point.
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EPR-radar Fri, Apr 5, 2013 7:11:36pm |
re: #1 Targetpractice
“The wussification of America”? Seriously, how fucking deranged does one have to be to believe that the ideal male behavior in America is to be a rage-filled, violent asshole?
If this insanity becomes the norm, then by definition it would no longer be insane.
The RW nutjob political project in a nutshell.
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The Ghost of a Flea Fri, Apr 5, 2013 7:24:03pm |
re: #4 EPR-radar
If this insanity becomes the norm, then by definition it would no longer be insane.
The RW nutjob political project in a nutshell.
I’d disagree. This isn’t new or insane. It’s about their tribe having all the privilege and entitlement, and the rest of society bending to accommodate that.
Hence the entire process of identifying with the abuser rather than the abused: the former is just fulfilling his White Man’s Burden/various-other- Burdens-that-don’t-involve-a-lot-of-burden-but-do-involve-the-right-to-scream-and-hit-people-with-impunity.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Apr 5, 2013 7:25:04pm |
Lobster (shrimp) roll time. Have a great night LGF.
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EPR-radar Fri, Apr 5, 2013 7:27:30pm |
re: #5 The Ghost of a Flea
I’d disagree. This isn’t new or insane. It’s about their tribe having all the privilege and entitlement, and the rest of society bending to accommodate that.
Hence the entire process of identifying with the abuser rather than the abused: the former is just fulfilling his White Man’s Burden/various-other- Burdens-that-don’t-involve-a-lot-of-burden-but-do-involve-the-right-to-scream-and-hit-people-with-impunity.
Interesting point. What may be new/insane is the visible rage/angst as the fact that their tribe is no longer in complete control sinks in.
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sauceruney Fri, Apr 5, 2013 7:41:06pm |
re: #1 Targetpractice
Rage-filled violent assholes are upset they’re not allowed to be themselves.
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Amory Blaine Fri, Apr 5, 2013 7:58:50pm |
Charles which headphones did you go with and do you like them?
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Apr 5, 2013 8:03:51pm |
re: #6 Stanley Sea
Lobster (shrimp) roll time. Have a great night LGF.
It’s sad that nobody loves you enough to stop you from eating the cockroaches of the sea.
:’(
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 5, 2013 8:04:24pm |
re: #10 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce
It’s sad that nobody loves you enough to stop you from eating the cockroaches of the sea.
:’(
SMACK!
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freetoken Fri, Apr 5, 2013 8:06:02pm |
War is transportable:
Myanmar Buddhist, Muslim refugees clash in Indonesia, eight dead
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William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Apr 5, 2013 8:08:04pm |
re: #11 Dark_Falcon
SMACK!
Hey DF, to get that whole article, you can download the July/August 1998 issue from here: benning.army.mil
There’s a good article on US tank development in that issue as well that I’d forgotten about over the years.
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Amory Blaine Fri, Apr 5, 2013 8:10:09pm |
If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball!!
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freetoken Fri, Apr 5, 2013 8:13:18pm |
The whole machismo mindset that envelopes the wingnuts and the neocons - warfare or sports, one is training/substitute for another - stems from deep daddy-issues and fear of not being masculine enough.
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EPR-radar Fri, Apr 5, 2013 8:17:11pm |
re: #15 freetoken
The whole machismo mindset that envelopes the wingnuts and the neocons - warfare or sports, one is training/substitute for another - stems from deep daddy-issues and fear of not being masculine enough.
This is one of the main reasons that homophobia is entrenched in some sectors of the right wing —- the business types and political operatives can be neutral on gay marriage, but the base will never accept it.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 5, 2013 8:18:21pm |
re: #13 William Barnett-Lewis
Hey DF, to get that whole article, you can download the July/August 1998 issue from here: benning.army.mil
There’s a good article on US tank development in that issue as well that I’d forgotten about over the years.
Thank you for that.
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Amory Blaine Fri, Apr 5, 2013 8:28:00pm |
re: #10 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce
It’s sad that nobody loves you enough to stop you from eating the cockroaches of the sea.
:’(
Asian Seafood Raised on Pig Feces Approved for U.S. Consumers
At Ngoc Sinh Seafoods Trading & Processing Export Enterprise, a seafood exporter on Vietnam’s southern coast, workers stand on a dirty floor sorting shrimp one hot September day. There’s trash on the floor, and flies crawl over baskets of processed shrimp stacked in an unchilled room in Ca Mau.
Elsewhere in Ca Mau, Nguyen Van Hoang packs shrimp headed for the U.S. in dirty plastic tubs. He covers them in ice made with tap water that the Vietnamese Health Ministry says should be boiled before drinking because of the risk of contamination with bacteria. Vietnam ships 100 million pounds of shrimp a year to the U.S. That’s almost 8 percent of the shrimp Americans eat.
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Zamb Fri, Apr 5, 2013 8:31:08pm |
I saw a Louis C.K bit on this shit. The gist being that the only group of people we allow people to inflict violence against are the most vulnerable and trusting. Nothing pisses me off more than seeing some ass bitch about a crying child annoying them and informing everyone how they would “teach that kid a lesson.” What fucking lesson do they intend to teach, that beating other peoples kids, or in fact anyone who might annoy you is the right thing to do?
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Charles Johnson Fri, Apr 5, 2013 8:39:31pm |
re: #9 Amory Blaine
Charles which headphones did you go with and do you like them?
I got the Pulse Elite Edition Wireless Stereo Headset, and it’s pretty danged amazing. The 7.1 surround sound actually works, the audio quality is excellent, and the build quality is also top notch. Very happy with this purchase so far.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Apr 5, 2013 8:40:20pm |
And they work really well with both the Playstation 3 and my Mac.
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Amory Blaine Fri, Apr 5, 2013 8:44:26pm |
Cool, looks like they get great reviews.
I have a pair of Sennheiser RS 180 and they are good but I wouldn’t mind trying a pair of surround headphones.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 5, 2013 9:08:27pm |
re: #13 William Barnett-Lewis
Also, do check out the July-August issue of ARMOR from 2012 for a very good look at George S. Patton, Charles de Gaulle, and the development of the M3 Lee/Grant tank.
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Tiny alien kittens are watching you Fri, Apr 5, 2013 9:11:15pm |
Hey Gus are you here?
I was wondering if I could get a hopefully minor assist from you with your mad .png editing skills, I don’t even have an image editor much less know how to use one.
Is it possible to replace the tiny white “stuck pixel” looking dot of a target reticle in the upper left hand corner of this image…
With this easier to see reticle?…
My poor strained eyes would thank you forever…
(edit: lol, I just realized that you can’t see either of them at all here on the white background.)
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Gus Fri, Apr 5, 2013 9:13:50pm |
re: #24 Tiny alien kittens are watching you
Hey Gus are you here?
I was wondering if I could get a hopefully minor assist from you with your mad .png editing skills, I don’t even have an image editor much less know how to use one.
Is it possible to replace the tiny white “stuck pixel” looking dot of a target reticle in the upper left hand corner of this image…
With this easier to see reticle?…
My poor strained eyes would thank you forever…
This work?
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 5, 2013 9:14:08pm |
re: #24 Tiny alien kittens are watching you
Hey Gus are you here?
I was wondering if I could get a hopefully minor assist from you with your mad .png editing skills, I don’t even have an image editor much less know how to use one.
Is it possible to replace the tiny white “stuck pixel” looking dot of a target reticle in the upper left hand corner of this image…
With this easier to see reticle?…
My poor strained eyes would thank you forever…
Target Acquired!
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Tiny alien kittens are watching you Fri, Apr 5, 2013 9:17:09pm |
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William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Apr 5, 2013 9:17:27pm |
re: #23 Dark_Falcon
Also, do check out the July-August issue of ARMOR from 2012 for a very good look at George S. Patton, Charles de Gaulle, and the development of the M3 Lee/Grant tank.
Thank you, I haven’t kept up with my old discipline as I should. I still mourn the move from Knox to Benning. Ironically, I did Benning too during my days in but that’s because I reclassed to 11B and had to do Infantry school while in the National Guard. I am proud of my blue cord & crossed rifles but remain a tanker at the core.
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Gus Fri, Apr 5, 2013 9:25:56pm |
re: #27 Tiny alien kittens are watching you
I’ll let you know in a few minutes, thank you. :)
What is that?
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 5, 2013 9:28:53pm |
re: #28 William Barnett-Lewis
Thank you, I haven’t kept up with my old discipline as I should. I still mourn the move from Knox to Benning. Ironically, I did Benning too during my days in but that’s because I reclassed to 11B and had to do Infantry school while in the National Guard. I am proud of my blue cord & crossed rifles but remain a tanker at the core.
On thing the issue points out was how Patton was about maneuver, not tanks. Tanks were just his tool for maneuver warfare.
My own opinion is that Patton’s desire to flank the enemy and avoid slugging it out with fixed defenses represented good tactical and operational sense, but was also predicated on his experience during WWI. Like MacArthur, Patton saw head-on attack as excessively bloody at best, and utter futility at worst. Both officers made up their minds that should they see action again in a big war, they would see that things were done better.
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Gus Fri, Apr 5, 2013 9:31:26pm |
Kim Jong-un and Mohamed Morsi walk into a bar… #p2 #tlot #Satire twitter.com/Gus_802/status…— Gus (@Gus_802) April 6, 2013
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Tiny alien kittens are watching you Fri, Apr 5, 2013 9:34:54pm |
re: #25 Gus
This work?
Damn, I was sure that would work, that is the image that this texture pack gives the game to use for the reticle but apparently for some reason it disappears completely when altered…sigh. :(
Grrrrr…I love all the textures in the pack itself, I just can’t stand leaning forward and straining to find the reticle on the screen. Oh well, back to the drawing board, maybe I can figure out why it doesn’t work now and fix it.
Anyway, thanks a bunch for doing that for me Gus I appreciate you cranking that so quickly. :)
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Gus Fri, Apr 5, 2013 9:35:54pm |
re: #32 Tiny alien kittens are watching you
Damn, I was sure that would work, that is the image that this texture pack gives the game to use for the reticle but apparently for some reason it disappears completely when altered…sigh. :(
Grrrrr…I love all the textures in the pack itself, I just can’t stand leaning forward and straining to find the reticle on the screen. Oh well, back to the drawing board, maybe I can figure out why it doesn’t work now and fix it.
Anyway, thanks a bunch for doing that for me Gus I appreciate you cranking that so quickly. :)
You sure it’s a png and not a bmp maybe?
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William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Apr 5, 2013 9:40:35pm |
re: #30 Dark_Falcon
I can see the argument, but MacArthur failed at it where Patton succeeded. MacArthur’s incompetent defense of the PI lead to his obsession with liberating them. Later his only big success was due to simple luck that the huge number of things that could go wrong at Inchon didn’t. His later refusal to believe his Intel people also hurt.
No, I put MacArthur on my list of the top 10 worst generals in American History above Burnsides (he knew he was incompetent and tried to get out of the job) but below McClellan (who had an even bigger ego problem _and_ felt too fatherly to his troops).
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Tiny alien kittens are watching you Fri, Apr 5, 2013 9:44:15pm |
re: #33 Gus
All the files in the texture pack are .png files, minecraft just completely redid the way the game handles textures (they all used to be in big tile sheets like that, now almost all of them require individual .png images) so everyone has been scrambling to update their mods and texture packs. My favorite texture pack was just updated but unfortunately the creator decided that this reticle was more aesthetically pleasing than the old one (personally, my opinion is that it sucks).
Anyway he isn’t going to change it so if I want to continue to use the pack I need to figure out how to change the reticle for myself I guess.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 5, 2013 9:44:23pm |
re: #34 William Barnett-Lewis
I can see the argument, but MacArthur failed at it where Patton succeeded. MacArthur’s incompetent defense of the PI lead to his obsession with liberating them. Later his only big success was due to simple luck that the huge number of things that could go wrong at Inchon didn’t. His later refusal to believe his Intel people also hurt.
No, I put MacArthur on my list of the top 10 worst generals in American History above Burnsides (he knew he was incompetent and tried to get out of the job) but below McClellan (who had an even bigger ego problem _and_ felt too fatherly to his troops).
I’m going to disagree. MacArthur’s ‘lsland Hopping’ avoidance of the major IJA troop concentrations in New Guinea allowed him to defeat the Japanese forces there quickly and at a relatively low cost.
Inchon wasn’t just luck, it was calculation, mixed with an accurate read of North Korean deployments and intentions.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 5, 2013 9:51:23pm |
The F-35, built by Lockheed Martin, is considered (by some) the new generation of U.S. air superiority. The aircraft completed a major milestone this week by conducting a nighttime short take off and vertical landing. The F-35 has hit some speed bumps in its development, but it is the Marines answer to replacing their harrier fleet. The future of the aircraft is unknown due to Washington infighting and budgetary concerns.
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Gus Fri, Apr 5, 2013 9:58:33pm |
re: #35 Tiny alien kittens are watching you
All the files in the texture pack are .png files, minecraft just completely redid the way the game handles textures (they all used to be in big tile sheets like that, now almost all of them require individual .png images) so everyone has been scrambling to update their mods and texture packs. My favorite texture pack was just updated but unfortunately the creator decided that this reticle was more aesthetically pleasing than the old one (personally, my opinion is that it sucks).
Anyway he isn’t going to change it so if I want to continue to use the pack I need to figure out how to change the reticle for myself I guess.
Is that texture pack a zip file?
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Gus Fri, Apr 5, 2013 10:01:06pm |
re: #39 Tiny alien kittens are watching you
Yep
Did you try unzippiing that and replacing the icon.png with the new one. Then, re-zip and reinstall?
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Gus Fri, Apr 5, 2013 10:03:29pm |
re: #39 Tiny alien kittens are watching you
Yep
Also saw this…
Open up Minecraft.jar
Open up the GUI folder inside of the Jar
Find the icon.png
Open up the Minecursor folder and find the cursor you want
Take the icon.png you want, and then replace the one inside the minecraft.jar
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Gus Fri, Apr 5, 2013 10:08:10pm |
If it’s a jar file you’ll need something to decompress and re-compress it.
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Tiny alien kittens are watching you Fri, Apr 5, 2013 10:08:26pm |
I opened the “installed” (in the game’s texture pack folder) copy of the zip, deleted the original icons.png and then dragged yours in from the desktop to replace it. Closed the window and then opened minecraft, the other icons still work but the target reticle disappeared completely.
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Gus Fri, Apr 5, 2013 10:09:27pm |
re: #43 Tiny alien kittens are watching you
I opened the “installed” (in the games texture pack folder) copy of the zip, deleted the original icons.png and then dragged yours in from the desktop to replace it. Closed the window and then opened minecraft, the other icons still work but the target reticle disappeared completely.
So it worked?
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Gus Fri, Apr 5, 2013 10:11:40pm |
re: #43 Tiny alien kittens are watching you
I opened the “installed” (in the games texture pack folder) copy of the zip, deleted the original icons.png and then dragged yours in from the desktop to replace it. Closed the window and then opened minecraft, the other icons still work but the target reticle disappeared completely.
That one was 24 bit. Try this 8 bit version. Rename it of course.
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Tiny alien kittens are watching you Fri, Apr 5, 2013 10:17:09pm |
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William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Apr 5, 2013 10:19:31pm |
Good night all. It’s after midnight central time & that bed is giving me it’s siren call… ;)
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Gus Fri, Apr 5, 2013 10:21:59pm |
re: #46 Tiny alien kittens are watching you
Other than the target reticle, yes it did.
Try hitting F1. :D
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Tiny alien kittens are watching you Fri, Apr 5, 2013 10:40:25pm |
re: #48 Gus
Try hitting F1. :D
Much better and more…uhh…aesthetically pleasing, I’m sure the creator of the new reticle plays likes this all the time… :p
(who cares about armor or health levels anyway?)
re: #41 Gus
That is the “stock” 16 bit texture pack that is not being used at all once you have selected to use a different pack. All new game GUI and icons are included in most packs. This one is a 64 bit that can be downloaded from mediafire here…
re: #42 Gus
If it’s a jar file you’ll need something to decompress and re-compress it.
I am doing all of this with Winrar, like always. It has always handled .jar and .zip files fine for me and I at least kind of know what I am doing with it.
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Tiny alien kittens are watching you Fri, Apr 5, 2013 10:49:11pm |
re: #45 Gus
That one was 24 bit. Try this 8 bit version. Rename it of course.
Everything else works (armor, health, experience), but sadly still no target reticle.
I did beg the author of the pack to at least point me in the right direction for some info on how to change the reticle so maybe tomorrow he will respond and I will hopefully be able to figure out what I am missing here.
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Amory Blaine Fri, Apr 5, 2013 10:58:22pm |
If anyone got Bioshock with the $30 discount code, Borderlands 2 + Season Pass is 25 bux = free game.
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Tiny alien kittens are watching you Fri, Apr 5, 2013 11:06:27pm |
re: #52 Amory Blaine
Tiny Tina just stole the show in that game, which is saying something in a game full of insanely larger than life characters, loved it.
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Gus Fri, Apr 5, 2013 11:07:00pm |
A collage of the ultimate Twitter wingnut profile pics. #p2 #tlot twitter.com/Gus_802/status…— Gus (@Gus_802) April 6, 2013
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Targetpractice Fri, Apr 5, 2013 11:16:03pm |
So in the same month that the stock market was posting record highs, only 88,000 jobs, half of what was expected, were created. I think we can put to rest the idea that job creation is dependent on the rich (sorry, “job creators”) having the resources to invest in new jobs.
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Targetpractice Fri, Apr 5, 2013 11:52:06pm |
Remember when spring meant it got warmer?
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freetoken Fri, Apr 5, 2013 11:58:38pm |
re: #58 Targetpractice
Remember when spring meant it got warmer?
It’s been unseasonably warm here. Way too warm for a month. And, it’s not rained in a month, which is seriously bad for us as the past 4 weeks should have been the time of heavy rain storms.
The loquats are 6 weeks behind last year, but they were extra early in 2012. This year the trees have smaller fruit (less rain) and the new leaves are smaller too (less rain.) It’s going to be another bad year for some fruit crops I’m afraid.
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Targetpractice Sat, Apr 6, 2013 12:03:28am |
re: #59 freetoken
It’s been unseasonably warm here. Way too warm for a month. And, it’s not rained in a month, which is seriously bad for us as the past 4 weeks should have been the time of heavy rain storms.
The loquats are 6 weeks behind last year, but they were extra early in 2012. This year the trees have smaller fruit (less rain) and the new leaves are smaller too (less rain.) It’s going to be another bad year for some fruit crops I’m afraid.
Meanwhile, around these parts, even though we’ve had a few days where the temp has managed the low 70s during the day, we still see night temps plunge into the 40-50 range.
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freetoken Sat, Apr 6, 2013 12:09:38am |
re: #60 Targetpractice
900 years ago a major climatic change, as near as can be determined, played a significant role in the collapse of at least three budding civilizations: In the SW US, in the region of the Mississippi river, and in Bolivia.
Today, we’re arrogant enough to believe we’re above that.
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freetoken Sat, Apr 6, 2013 12:13:16am |
Re-watching the pilot of the X-files reminds me of how important a really good antagonist is to a story. So many TV shows and movies fail because the antagonists are too formulaic or simple.
CSM has to be in my top 10 of all time favorite heels.
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Targetpractice Sat, Apr 6, 2013 12:14:01am |
re: #61 freetoken
900 years ago a major climatic change, as near as can be determined, played a significant role in the collapse of at least three budding civilizations: In the SW US, in the region of the Mississippi river, and in Bolivia.
Today, we’re arrogant enough to believe we’re above that.
Because we tell ourselves that we’re “smarter” and “better prepared” to weather such circumstances. Reality is that we’re every bit as dependent on the right environment holding out for long periods of time as past civilizations were. One year of bad harvests can cause a little pain, but several years in a row? Entire regions of the country in crisis-level drought situations? Yeah, we’re past the “It’s gonna be alright” point. We don’t have replicators, we can’t just create food from nothing.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Apr 6, 2013 12:20:10am |
re: #63 Targetpractice
Our system is also based on there being such an abundance of foodstuffs that we can trade them as commodities. But if chronic shortages come about, the whole system will turn on itself, as will people on people and nations on nations.
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wheat-dogghazi Sat, Apr 6, 2013 12:26:53am |
re: #64 Sol Berdinowitz
Our system is also based on there being such an abundance of foodstuffs that we can trade them as commodities. But if chronic shortages come about, the whole system will turn on itself, as will people on people and nations on nations.
Isn’t Texas still in drought conditions? How would people there fare if Texas were an independent country (albeit with its own supply of gold bullion) and had to import food from Mexico or the USA?
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Targetpractice Sat, Apr 6, 2013 12:28:33am |
re: #64 Sol Berdinowitz
Our system is also based on there being such an abundance of foodstuffs that we can trade them as commodities. But if chronic shortages come about, the whole system will turn on itself, as will people on people and nations on nations.
Hasn’t been since the days of the Dust Bowl that the country has faced serious food shortages. The difference this time is not that there will be a lack of money to buy food with, there will be no food on the shelves period. And any change in food exportation to keep more food on our own shores will only lead to destabilization and hardship in other nations.
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Kragar Sat, Apr 6, 2013 12:28:45am |
Rich neighborhoods hiring private security as cities lay off cops
After people in Oakland’s wealthy enclaves like Oakmore or Piedmont Pines head to work, security companies take over, cruising the quiet streets to ward off burglars looking to take advantage of unattended homes.
“With less law enforcement on the streets and more home crime or perception of home crime, people are wanting something to replace that need,” says Chris de Guzman, chief operating officer of First Alarm, a company that provides security to about 100 homes in Oakland. “That’s why they’re calling us and bringing companies like us aboard to provide that deterrent.”
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Targetpractice Sat, Apr 6, 2013 12:34:49am |
re: #67 Kragar
Rich neighborhoods hiring private security as cities lay off cops
You know, I’m pretty sure we’ve seen this film before, where the collapse of basic services pushed by the concentration of ever greater amounts of wealth into an increasingly smaller percentage of the overall population, eventually led to a workers revolt, the downfall of the government, and the overall collapse of capitalism.
Somehow, I don’t think that it will be the sort of revolution that the wingnuts are expecting.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Apr 6, 2013 12:36:24am |
re: #68 Targetpractice
Somehow, I don’t think that it will be the sort of revolution that the wingnuts are expecting.
They are still stuck on the image of tricorne hats and muskets…
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stabby Sat, Apr 6, 2013 1:09:38am |
I don’t have time to read this stuff tonight, but I suspect from a quick skim that people are missing the old observation from psychiatry that abuse leads to an abusive personality. A young child identifies with his abuser and finds that less painful than being aware of himself.
So you really can’t blame people who were abused as children for lacking empathy - it’s part of how they coped with abuse.
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stabby Sat, Apr 6, 2013 1:19:02am |
I think we need a study that asks “if young children are abused a lot, do they grow up to be wingnuts?”
Because I think I know the answer to that one. As long as you count telling young children that God watches them all the time because he wants to torture them for eternity as a form of abuse.
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wheat-dogghazi Sat, Apr 6, 2013 1:20:58am |
I’m making a broad generalization here, since the Philippines and China are quite different while still Asian, but I wonder if Malkin’s childhood experience was similar to some of my students’ here in Hunan. Some parents, and grandparents — especially in rural areas — steadfastly believe in corporal punishment. One of my students, who’s 21, says her father will beat her for any transgression of his ultimate authority — especially when he’s had too much to drink.
This girl, however, is one of the sweetest, kindest people I’ve ever met. Malkin, whom I have never met, seems quite the opposite.
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freetoken Sat, Apr 6, 2013 1:30:00am |
re: #68 Targetpractice
You know, I’m pretty sure we’ve seen this film before,….
Getting back to the X-Files, the fall-out of its success has been that so many other shows patterned on exploring the same or similar topics appear as derivative, and the ideas involved are too cliche to be entertainment anymore. The X-Files itself recycled some old ideas, but did bring them to a new generation. Today with the digital availability of all these older entertainment products are readily seen by each new generation, making it impossible to recycle older ideas.
Thus with the few successful TV shows that are going over old ideas, the success arises out of novelty not due to subject or story line but rather in presentation style. The Walking Dead shows graphic mutilation in a manner so explicit that back when MPAA ratings were younger would have easily garnered a rating for adults only.
Where does one go after the wall of explicitness falls?
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freetoken Sat, Apr 6, 2013 1:33:22am |
In the context of our culture, this stagnation in entertainment I correlate with the concurrent stagnation in our political system and the general ennui in our society.
We are between times, in a sort of limbo. What the next “big thing” will be is not clear to me.
For now, I’m labeling 2013 as The American Era of Ennui.
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wheat-dogghazi Sat, Apr 6, 2013 1:34:02am |
re: #75 freetoken
In the context of our culture, this stagnation in entertainment I correlate with the concurrent stagnation in our political system and the general ennui in our society.
We are between times, in a sort of limbo. What the next “big thing” will be is not clear to me.
For now, I’m labeling 2013 as The American Era of Ennui.
How boring.
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Kragar Sat, Apr 6, 2013 1:39:33am |
re: #75 freetoken
In the context of our culture, this stagnation in entertainment I correlate with the concurrent stagnation in our political system and the general ennui in our society.
We are between times, in a sort of limbo. What the next “big thing” will be is not clear to me.
For now, I’m labeling 2013 as The American Era of Ennui.
You’re forgetting the leaps and bounds made by video games in the last 2 decades. A great deal of entertainment value, money and effort go into them. Sure, a lot of it is mindless drivel, but then we get the Fallouts, Bioshocks, Warcrafts and other classic titles which have entertained millions around the world.
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Kragar Sat, Apr 6, 2013 1:46:27am |
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Kragar Sat, Apr 6, 2013 2:09:41am |
Ronnie Dio And The Prophets - Everybody’s Got A Dance
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Kragar Sat, Apr 6, 2013 2:25:11am |
Cthulhu fhtagn! Indescribably terrifying microbes named for H.P. Lovecraft’s monsters
Suckling unnamable ichor as they slither through the viscous, shrieking madness of the intestinal tracts of lunatic termites, a pair of incomprehensibly monstrous single-celled organisms have been named after the creations of the early 20th century science fiction pulp writer, H.P. Lovecraft.
A University of British Columbia press release quotes Erick James, a biologist a whose impious explorations into the forbidden have unwittingly revealed a terrifying vista of dread.
“When we first saw them under the microscope they had this unique motion, it looked almost like an octopus swimming,” said James.
Described in the current edition of the scientific journal PLOS ONE, Cthulhu macrofasciculumque is named for Cthulhu, the towering cosmic entity with an octopus head and dragon wings who first appeared in Lovecraft’s 1926 short story, “The Call of Cthulhu.” The microbe’s length is about a fifth of the width of a human hair – an unutterably degenerate human hair – and it has up to 20 flagella, lash-like protrusions that help it swim. Cthylla microfasciculumque is named for Cthulhu’s secret daughter. It is slightly smaller, with only five flagella.
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Romantic Heretic Sat, Apr 6, 2013 2:53:02am |
re: #68 Targetpractice
You know, I’m pretty sure we’ve seen this film before, where the collapse of basic services pushed by the concentration of ever greater amounts of wealth into an increasingly smaller percentage of the overall population, eventually led to a workers revolt, the downfall of the government, and the overall collapse of capitalism.
Somehow, I don’t think that it will be the sort of revolution that the wingnuts are expecting.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Apr 6, 2013 4:12:13am |
There is no end of anectodal evidence regarding corporal punishment on czhildren.
But modern journalism (and not just Fox journalism) is all about taking subjective impressisions and anecdotal evidence and shaping it into objective reporting and “informed” opinion-making.
But unless you were abused as a child, there is no way you can see the need or justification for a basketball coach treating his players like the drill inspector in “Full Metal Jacket”.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Apr 6, 2013 4:31:23am |
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lawhawk Sat, Apr 6, 2013 4:39:24am |
Don’t feel too bad for either Rice or the Rutgers AD. Both are collecting a tidy sum of more than $1m each.
Rutgers payout: Mike Rice, Tim Pernetti to collect more than $1M each after departure nj.com/news/index.ssf…— lawhawk (@lawhawk) April 6, 2013
Mind you, had the university acted upon a report compiled by an outside firm investigating Rice’s actions, they could have fired him last year without having to pay out the contract terms.
Mike Rice could have been fired for violating contract, independent report finds - but wasn’t. #Rutgers #FAIL nj.com/news/index.ssf…— lawhawk (@lawhawk) April 6, 2013
The clowns in charge of Rutgers, like Penn State before them, put the university’s athletics ahead of student safety, or financial concerns. This action has cost the university millions, and all for not acting with sufficient haste to fire an abusive coach.
Oh, and it turns out that his assistant coach wasn’t much better. He also resigned, but not before we learned that he was essentially doing the same stuff his boss was doing - probably one of the reasons that players couldn’t come forward directly to other coaches, or why Rice got to stick around as long as he did - his assistants were just like him.
If I found out that my alma mater had let this go on, they’d never see another dime until they suspended the athletic program, fired the AD, and cleaned house. They violated the trust of the students, faculty, and parents. Yet, after the payouts and public statements, it will be business as usual.
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BongCrodny Sat, Apr 6, 2013 4:48:31am |
re: #87 lawhawk
Don’t feel too bad for either Rice or the Rutgers AD. Both are collecting a tidy sum of more than $1m each.
Rutgers’ record the last three years: 15-17, 14-18, 15-16.
A million bucks for that.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Apr 6, 2013 4:52:07am |
re: #88 BongCrodny
Rutgers’ record the last three years: 15-17, 14-18, 15-16.
A million bucks for that.
Because Americans belive in rewarding success.
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wheat-dogghazi Sat, Apr 6, 2013 5:55:17am |
re: #87 lawhawk
Mind you, had the university acted upon a report compiled by an outside firm investigating Rice’s actions, they could have fired him last year without having to pay out the contract terms.
Typical. They probably paid these consultants a tidy sum, then ignored their recommendations, because it wasn’t what they wanted to hear.
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dragonath Sat, Apr 6, 2013 6:22:32am |
Oh great, the Daily Caller is getting front page links from yahoo again. I wonder what kind of malfeasance is behind this. These were the same guys who were pushing the Crowder fake “union violence” story AND the Menendez libel.
Standards, how do they work?
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wheat-dogghazi Sat, Apr 6, 2013 6:29:09am |
re: #91 dragonath
Yahoo is not a news organization, so it doesn’t need to bother with pesky journalistic standards. The Daily Caller probably paid Yahoo to link to its stories.
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dragonath Sat, Apr 6, 2013 6:34:48am |
re: #92 wheat-dogghazi
Yahoo is not a news organization, so it doesn’t need to bother with pesky journalistic standards. The Daily Caller probably paid Yahoo to link to its stories.
Yeah I know. It’s something I keep on harping about- even uber-liberal Wonkette links goddam NewsMax. It’s probably a waste of money but it gives the entire page about the same integrity as a 1850s broadsheet. Mission accomplished, I guess.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 6, 2013 6:37:07am |
re: #84 Romantic Heretic
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That’s the thing, though: Start in with stuff like that and you’d find lots of people, including me, siding with the police and security contractors. The antipathy towards the radical left is very great in many minds in the US.
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wheat-dogghazi Sat, Apr 6, 2013 6:43:57am |
re: #93 dragonath
Yeah I know. It’s something I keep on harping about- even uber-liberal Wonkette links goddam NewsMax. It’s probably a waste of money but it gives the entire page about the same integrity as a 1850s broadsheet. Mission accomplished, I guess.
Journalism as we knew it is a dying craft. Bloggers for the most part have no journalistic training or background, or even awareness of their responsibility to impart some amount of truth to their audience. When James O’Keefe and Andrew Breitbart claim to be journalists, and Dim Hoft can get a journalism award, then the word “journalist” means nothing anymore.
Speaking as a former newspaperman here, I welcome the freedom the Internet and self-publishing provides us, but mourn the loss of integrity that more traditional media at least tried to maintain.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Apr 6, 2013 6:52:20am |
$32 Trillion in untaxed money globally hidden away?
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A Mom Anon Sat, Apr 6, 2013 6:54:04am |
re: #94 Dark_Falcon
What radical left?
Things have moved so far right DF that I am considered radical left. Which if you knew me and saw my life would send you into fits of giggles. Code Pink and that sort of group are not a powerful force of any sort. Radical left really doesn’t exist anymore, except for a teeny minority, much smaller than even the Tea Party. You don’t have radical leftists in the government, and the ones seen at protests and marches don’t do anything but protest and march and try to get on TV. In other words, the far left, those radicals of today are mostly posers. Powerless posers.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:00:11am |
re: #98 A Mom Anon
What radical left?
Things have moved so far right DF that I am considered radical left. Which if you knew me and saw my life would send you into fits of giggles. Code Pink and that sort of group are not a powerful force of any sort. Radical left really doesn’t exist anymore, except for a teeny minority, much smaller than even the Tea Party. You don’t have radical leftists in the government, and the ones seen at protests and marches don’t do anything but protest and march and try to get on TV. In other words, the far left, those radicals of today are mostly posers. Powerless posers.
I think what is hardest for Conservatives is the popular understanding of the word “socialism”. To most American’s, these days, it has nothing to do with central price controls or property rights and EVERYTHING to do with colorblind, androgynous justice.
The parts of socialism that scare the KKK and their ilk the most are the parts most American’s see as the Most American. Equal rights, reproductive rights, Universal Health care, marriage equality …
And the more we learn about the financial shenanigans of the word’s wealthiest people, banks and corporations, the more we will see a push for the economic side of socialism.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:01:28am |
re: #97 FemNaziBitch
$32 Trillion in untaxed money globally hidden away?
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A group whose other YouTube videos include “Shutting Down Critique of Israel on Campus” and “Subsidized Corn Destroying Gglobal Bio-Diversity” doesn’t enjoy much credibility with me, GGT. It’s usually not a good sign when someone is shouting “Israeli Apartheid!” and “Monsanto’s crops kill!”, in fact that’s usually the sign you’re dealing with a barking moonbat.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:04:16am |
re: #98 A Mom Anon
What radical left?
Things have moved so far right DF that I am considered radical left. Which if you knew me and saw my life would send you into fits of giggles. Code Pink and that sort of group are not a powerful force of any sort. Radical left really doesn’t exist anymore, except for a teeny minority, much smaller than even the Tea Party. You don’t have radical leftists in the government, and the ones seen at protests and marches don’t do anything but protest and march and try to get on TV. In other words, the far left, those radicals of today are mostly posers. Powerless posers.
The vid was from Le Miz. and the people depicted were definitely “left”. I was saying that symbols matter and if you use the symbols of the radical leftist, then most people who are right of center (including me) will see you as a radical leftist.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:04:53am |
re: #100 Dark_Falcon
A group whose other YouTube videos include “Shutting Down Critique of Israel on Campus” and “Subsidized Corn Destroying Gglobal Bio-Diversity” doesn’t enjoy much credibility with me, GGT. It’s usually not a good sign when someone is shouting “Israeli Apartheid!” and “Monsanto’s crops kill!”, in fact that’s usually the sign you’re dealing with a barking moonbat.
I posted it in the Pages as well, along with an Alternet article regarding the topic. I welcome the critique, but I’d rather know your views on the topic.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:06:01am |
re: #94 Dark_Falcon
That’s the thing, though: Start in with stuff like that and you’d find lots of people, including me, siding with the police and security contractors. The antipathy towards the radical left is very great in many minds in the US.
describe the radically left and how they differ from the mainstream in American today.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:10:39am |
re: #94 Dark_Falcon
That’s the thing, though: Start in with stuff like that and you’d find lots of people, including me, siding with the police and security contractors. The antipathy towards the radical left is very great in many minds in the US.
As AMA just said, there is no radical left in America. Right now being a union member and not just letting your rights be stolen is considered being radical and that’s what is destroying our economy.
As an actual card carrying Socialist (www.dsausa.org) , DF, I well aware of how non-existent the left is in America. All we have is corporate & right wing media outlets telling us that our center right president is a Kenyan Muslim socialist because - gasp! - he dares to think that America can have a functional government and economy that doesn’t kowtow to the 1%.
Right now we’re on the same road trod by Spain in the 30’s and if we stay on it, it’s going to be even uglier than than their war was.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:10:52am |
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dragonath Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:11:07am |
This radical grew up to be a OWS supporter
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:14:35am |
re: #101 Dark_Falcon
The vid was from Le Miz. and the people depicted were definitely “left”. I was saying that symbols matter and if you use the symbols of the radical leftist, then most people who are right of center (including me) will see you as a radical leftist.
Les Miz is not the symbol of the radical left, though. Why do you think it is?
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:14:53am |
re: #102 FemNaziBitch
I posted it in the Pages as well, along with an Alternet article regarding the topic. I welcome the critique, but I’d rather know your views on the topic.
Alternet I sometimes read and I’ll try to do so in this case, but “The Real News” really lost any hope of reaching me, given the title of the video they just posted today, The Message of MLK, Bradley Manning and the Collateral Murder Video .
We here at LGF have gone over how Wikileaks “Collateral Murder” video was a dishonest editing of footage worthy of Andrew Breitbart. Any group that would attempt to not only defend it, but to try to link it to Martin Luther King Jr. is in my opinion irrevocably designated as a dishonest far-left group and anything they say will be summarily dismissed.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:15:36am |
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:15:53am |
I think what is interesting about this whole offshore tax haven situation is the way in which the method for obtaining so much money is described. Very little attention is given to illegally obtained funds. By that I mean non-white collar crime.
A lot of attention is given to corporate schemes, but not so much to individuals.
Deutsch and the British Bank )who’s initials I can never get right) HSBC? have been in the news.
Obama’s attempt to obtain treaties with countries regarding their banks disclosure of said monies has also been in the news.
Not so much about global heroin trade—human trafficking and the other big cash producers of organized crime.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:17:05am |
re: #105 William Barnett-Lewis
As AMA just said, there is no radical left in America. Right now being a union member and not just letting your rights be stolen is considered being radical and that’s what is destroying our economy.
As an actual card carrying Socialist (www.dsausa.org) , DF, I well aware of how non-existent the left is in America. All we have is corporate & right wing media outlets telling us that our center right president is a Kenyan Muslim socialist because - gasp! - he dares to think that America can have a functional government and economy that doesn’t kowtow to the 1%.
Right now we’re on the same road trod by Spain in the 30’s and if we stay on it, it’s going to be even uglier than than their war was.
The house if cards is going to tumble soon and they are grasping at any straw to hold it together.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:18:23am |
re: #109 Dark_Falcon
Heh. Michael Ratner is Assange’s attorney.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:20:23am |
re: #109 Dark_Falcon
Alternet I sometimes read and I’ll try to do so in this case, but “The Real News” really lost any hope of reaching me, given the title of the video they just posted today, The Message of MLK, Bradley Manning and the Collateral Murder Video .
We here at LGF have gone over how Wikileaks “Collateral Murder” video was a dishonest editing of footage worthy of Andrew Breitbart. Any group that would attempt to not only defend it, but to try to link it to Martin Luther King Jr. is in my opinion irrevocably designated as a dishonest far-left group and anything they say will be summarily dismissed.
Well, I’d appreciate your ideas on the topic.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:22:48am |
re: #113 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
Heh. Michael Ratner is Assange’s attorney.
Shitbirds of a feather…
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A Mom Anon Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:24:00am |
re: #101 Dark_Falcon
So what a person actually DOES is not as important as the symbols? Can you tell me what you personally consider to be radical left?
Honestly, I think that if you took the left/right out of it and just spoke of policy, of hopes and dreams for the future, of what the role of government should be, you’d probably find that most people of all political stripes can find large swaths of agreement. We’re Americans first, or at least that’s how it’s supposed to work.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:24:25am |
I appreciate rogues and renegades with their own approach to news, history and science, but there is a reason for having accepted standards of journalism, history and science: to minimize or at least make obvious any partisan slant contained in the articles/books written.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:24:31am |
Dark, it looks like the Real News Network has a wide variety of stuff on it, from obviously wildly biased people like Assange’s attorney writing an article about Assange, but they are transparent about the bias and positions of the authors. There is a defense to be made for Assange, even though I think he’s a nincompoop and the editing of the video was dishonest. I don’t see any outright hateful articles there or just insane polemics.
The guy who did the article about the expose of hidden funds is William K. Black, who is an eminently respectable academic who is quite right about a lot of his criticisms of the banking industry in general, and has been proved so over the years. He’s one of the few academics to really understand how evolution applies to something like finance.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:25:26am |
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:26:42am |
re: #118 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
Dark, it looks like the Real News Network has a wide variety of stuff on it, from obviously wildly biased people like Assange’s attorney writing an article about Assange, but they are transparent about the bias and positions of the authors. There is a defense to be made for Assange, even though I think he’s a nincompoop and the editing of the video was dishonest. I don’t see any outright hateful articles there or just insane polemics.
The guy who did the article about the expose of hidden funds is William K. Black, who is an eminently respectable academic who is quite right about a lot of his criticisms of the banking industry in general, and has been proved so over the years. He’s one of the few academics to really understand how evolution applies to something like finance.
DF seems to be afraid he might be tainted by impure sources.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:27:06am |
re: #115 Dark_Falcon
Shitbirds of a feather…
Well, not in this case. Black’s criticisms of our financial system are completely sound.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:27:14am |
re: #116 A Mom Anon
So what a person actually DOES is not as important as the symbols? Can you tell me what you personally consider to be radical left?
Honestly, I think that if you took the left/right out of it and just spoke of policy, of hopes and dreams for the future, of what the role of government should be, you’d probably find that most people of all political stripes can find large swaths of agreement. We’re Americans first, or at least that’s how it’s supposed to work.
A government that assures equal rights for everyone? LEFT
A government that upholds environmental and worker safetystandards? LEFT
A financial system that rewards risk-takers but punishes reckless risk-takers? LEFT
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chadu Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:28:07am |
re: #10 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce
It’s sad that nobody loves you enough to stop you from eating the cockroaches of the sea.
:’(
Cockroaches of the sea are mighty fine eating.
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A Mom Anon Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:31:07am |
BBL, there’s a large DOG behind me crying to be walked. Yes, she is 75 lbs of GIANT BABY.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:31:09am |
As currently much of the Dodd-Frank legislation is being undermined to specifically NOT INCLUDE derivatives in the government’s oversight authority, I think the world banking situation is a BIG DEAL.
Who is pulling the strings and why are we letting them?
I guess this is a far left socialist idea. I should just listen to my betters and deal with a crumbling infrastructure and keep producing babies I can’t feed or educate.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:31:47am |
re: #120 FemNaziBitch
DF seems to be afraid he might be tainted by impure sources.
Well, Bill Black was being interviewed, and explained his criticisms. I don’t think there’s any problem with him being interviewed with someone that gave sympathetic interviews to people who are ‘impure’.
If he’d been interviewed at any of the major news networks, he’d also be interviewed by someone who’d interviewed shitbirds, given the large number of shitbirds who are extremely important in US politics and economics.
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chadu Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:31:53am |
re: #23 Dark_Falcon
Hey, DF, this is way off-topic, but what do you think of George Washington as a General?
Personally, I see him as the best retreating general of all time (no diss there, it’s a useful skill) and best at picking subordinates.
Or maybe he was just lucky.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:33:16am |
re: #124 A Mom Anon
BBL, there’s a large DOG behind me crying to be walked. Yes, she is 75 lbs of GIANT BABY.
I read an article about a major difference between canis lupus and canis domesticus, although they are genetically identical, one typical trait of domesticated dogs is that they have a much longer adolescence: we have bred them to be BIG BABIES for most of their lives.
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chadu Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:33:53am |
re: #30 Dark_Falcon
My own opinion is that Patton’s desire to flank the enemy and avoid slugging it out with fixed defenses represented good tactical and operational sense, but was also predicated on his experience during WWI. Like MacArthur, Patton saw head-on attack as excessively bloody at best, and utter futility at worst. Both officers made up their minds that should they see action again in a big war, they would see that things were done better.
Thus the flanking. And also the emphasis on speed.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:35:59am |
re: #126 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
Well, Bill Black was being interviewed, and explained his criticisms. I don’t think there’s any problem with him being interviewed with someone that gave sympathetic interviews to people who are ‘impure’.
If he’d been interviewed at any of the major news networks, he’d also be interviewed by someone who’d interviewed shitbirds, given the large number of shitbirds who are extremely important in US politics and economics.
Obdi, you know, I’ve been here a long time. I wouldn’t post something I didn’t think was accurate or relevant. I respect the LGF community too much to do that. I don’t have a lot of patience for anyone who will criticize the source especially when I politely welcome criticism of the SUBJECT.
DF could have watched the video for himself, googled Mr. Black and figured out for himself that it was a good interview. Instead, he leaves it to you to do that for him.
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chadu Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:36:22am |
re: #36 Dark_Falcon
I think it was the management of Southeast Asia that eluded MacArthur.
Man could plan an invasion, but couldn’t handle and occupation.
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wheat-dogghazi Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:38:23am |
re: #100 Dark_Falcon
There’s some truth to the idea that billions are hidden away. Check the reports at icij.org about the “global offshore money maze.”
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chadu Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:39:20am |
re: #60 Targetpractice
In VA, we’re seeing a 20 to 30 degree swing, day vs. night. The weathermen and women suggest that might change soon. Whatevs.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:39:21am |
re: #132 chadu
I think it was the management of Southeast Asia that eluded MacArthur.
Man could plan an invasion, but couldn’t handle and occupation.
He could manage an occupation, though. He did quite well in Japan. What happened was that he thought only in terms of decisive victory, and wasn’t really able to accept the constraints of the Cold War.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:41:48am |
re: #116 A Mom Anon
So what a person actually DOES is not as important as the symbols?
Essentially correct. In today’s media environment, the sizzle is more important than the steak. If you’ve got the wrong imagery, you’ll be classified as a wingnut or moonbat and dismissed as such, regardless of what you actually stand for.
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chadu Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:43:57am |
re: #81 Kragar
I really need to go on a personal Dio re-education tour. I avoided Dio in Junior high, but seeing/hearing some of the YouTubes yunz have been posting… Man. I’ve been missing out.
Thanks LGF Lizards! You guys all rock!
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chadu Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:45:33am |
re: #92 wheat-dogghazi
Yahoo is not a news organization, so it doesn’t need to bother with pesky journalistic standards. The Daily Caller probably paid Yahoo to link to its stories.
Most journalists today don’t bother with pesky journalistic standards.
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chadu Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:49:10am |
re: #105 William Barnett-Lewis
I’m an TR/FDR mix of progressive and socialist.
Who do I join up with?
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:52:16am |
re: #127 chadu
Hey, DF, this is way off-topic, but what do you think of George Washington as a General?
Personally, I see him as the best retreating general of all time (no diss there, it’s a useful skill) and best at picking subordinates.
Or maybe he was just lucky.
He kept his army intact and mostly fought battles of his choosing. He had a very good ability to pick his subordinates and he had the advantage of a superpower (France) supplying him with arms & powder. He had enough ego to be able to know he could do the job and push for it while not having so much that it obscured his vision of what his army was capable of handling. If he’d had more regulars and fewer militia, he would have had an easier time of it, too. I rate him very high on the list of American Generals near Grant, Meade & Thomas.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:55:07am |
re: #142 William Barnett-Lewis
He kept his army intact and mostly fought battles of his choosing. He had a very good ability to pick his subordinates and he had the advantage of a superpower (France) supplying him with arms & powder. He had enough ego to be able to know he could do the job and push for it while not having so much that it obscured his vision of what his army was capable of handling. If he’d had more regulars and fewer militia, he would have had an easier time of it, too. I rate him very high on the list of American Generals near Grant, Meade & Thomas.
I concur with that rating.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:59:00am |
re: #136 Dark_Falcon
He could manage an occupation, though. He did quite well in Japan. What happened was that he thought only in terms of decisive victory, and wasn’t really able to accept the constraints of the Cold War.
If you read about his handling of the defense of the PI & his even worse handling of the New Guinea campaign (for which the midwest’s 32nd ID paid a high price) I would say that he was incompetent as a field commander. He did well as an administrator in the PI & post-war Japan, though his actions as Chief of Staff left much to be desired & his allowing many Japanese war criminals to escape justice due to a misplaced “anti-communist” zeal are marks against him in that realm.
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Gus Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:59:00am |
Family burning #Qatar flag together. #6April twitter.com/aaboulenein/st…— Ahmed Aboul Enein (@aaboulenein) April 6, 2013
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Bear Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:59:06am |
re: #136 Dark_Falcon
I was in the Yokohama-Tokyo area of japan during the first year of the occupation. MacA did in my opinion do an excellent job there. It was about a month after we landed in Japan that things were so calm that orders came down from HQ No more weapons would be carried by us down to pocket knife.
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chadu Sat, Apr 6, 2013 7:59:26am |
re: #142 William Barnett-Lewis
He had enough ego to be able to know he could do the job and push for it while not having so much that it obscured his vision of what his army was capable of handling.
He was also a moody, depressive asshole. But he KNEW THAT. AND WORKED AROUND IT.
I’mma gonna say, G-Wash never thought of himself as a hero, just the man in the plan who could stand.
He knew that without France and Spain’s support, we were fucked.
He pulled off some impressive tricks, but what stands out is his personal courage and ability to keep men together when all shit is going south.
(Also, I truly think he was invulnerable. Stories of him having bullet-holes in his clothing and horses shot out from under him… )
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Apr 6, 2013 8:00:51am |
re: #140 chadu
I’m an TR/FDR mix of progressive and socialist.
Who do I join up with?
I’d suggest reading some of the stuff at dsausa.org and pondering it. How strong is your economics background?
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kirkspencer Sat, Apr 6, 2013 8:03:14am |
re: #136 Dark_Falcon
He could manage an occupation, though. He did quite well in Japan. What happened was that he thought only in terms of decisive victory, and wasn’t really able to accept the constraints of the Cold War.
I always sum MacArthur by saying his greatest weakness was that he needed a separate suite for his ego. If you go through his entire career you see he sought glory. Whether he did so as a daddy issue or because he was a spoiled brat is hard to say (both can be justified and may indeed be applicable), but the simple fact was that he placed his glory ahead of just about everything including duty. And sometimes it bit him.
He was a mediocre to poor administrator for the Philippines. On the other hand he was very, very good for Japan. I’ve semi-seriously argued that the reason for the latter was that he was another god-emperor decreeing How It Shall Be to the losing god-emperor so it was a cultural fit.
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chadu Sat, Apr 6, 2013 8:03:24am |
re: #146 Bear
I was in the Yokohama-Tokyo area of japan during the first year of the occupation. MacA did in my opinion do an excellent job there. It was about a month after we landed in Japan that things were so calm that orders came down from HQ No more weapons would be carried by us down to pocket knife.
I think MacA did a decent job in Japan, but screwed the Philippines.
Just my barely-informed opinion.
And thank you for your service!
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chadu Sat, Apr 6, 2013 8:05:17am |
re: #150 William Barnett-Lewis
I’d suggest reading some of the stuff at dsausa.org and pondering it. How strong is your economics background?
Iffy. Micro-econ my freshman year in college (big focus on Keynes), and sporadic reading since.
I’ll check it out. THANKS!
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Apr 6, 2013 8:11:25am |
re: #153 chadu
Iffy. Micro-econ my freshman year in college (big focus on Keynes), and sporadic reading since.
I’ll check it out. THANKS!
Try reading Keynes himself sometime. Brilliant thinker & often hilarious writer. The Economic Consequences of the Peace from 1919 is fascinating in hindsight & The General Theory of Employment, Interest & Money from 1936 remains the most easily readable “important work” since Adam Smith (who rarely said what certain quarters think he said… )
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chadu Sat, Apr 6, 2013 8:12:59am |
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 6, 2013 8:20:02am |
re: #144 William Barnett-Lewis
If you read about his handling of the defense of the PI & his even worse handling of the New Guinea campaign (for which the midwest’s 32nd ID paid a high price) I would say that he was incompetent as a field commander. He did well as an administrator in the PI & post-war Japan, though his actions as Chief of Staff left much to be desired & his allowing many Japanese war criminals to escape justice due to a misplaced “anti-communist” zeal are marks against him in that realm.
I’d say he underestimated Japan in 1942, and his troops paid the price. After Buna, he understood what he was up against and did better. In fairness, it must also be said that the shortage of amphibious assets in the Pacific in the fall of 1942 (coupled with the need for those assets to support the Marine and later Army units on Guadalcanal) meant that the kind of flanking moves used later in the war were unusable. MacArthur didn’t really have much choice save the sort of frontal assault by the Red Arrow division that he otherwise despised.
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chadu Sat, Apr 6, 2013 8:24:59am |
re: #157 Dark_Falcon
Yes, it’s interesting that amphibious assets are much talked up about in the European Theater, and are barely mentioned (in the popular culture) in the Pacific Theater.
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calochortus Sat, Apr 6, 2013 8:29:54am |
re: #101 Dark_Falcon
The vid was from Le Miz. and the people depicted were definitely “left”. I was saying that symbols matter and if you use the symbols of the radical leftist, then most people who are right of center (including me) will see you as a radical leftist.
I realize that the conversation has moved on in the last hour or so, but do I understand correctly that you are a monarchist? Hardly center right.
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Gus Sat, Apr 6, 2013 8:38:42am |
A new legal complaint demanding to reveal my connections with US& Israel and accusing me of destroying society values& morals— Dr Bassem Youssef (@DrBassemYoussef) April 6, 2013
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calochortus Sat, Apr 6, 2013 8:40:48am |
re: #160 Dark_Falcon
where did you get that crazy idea?
If you think the people marching down the street in Le Miz singing their hearts out are far left and people won’t support the far left, well that leaves the monarchy doesn’t it?
OK, I was being intentionally provocative-but you seem married to the status quo and I’d be happy if you looked outside “the way things are” and contemplated the idea that change might be beneficial. Not guaranteed to be so, but a possibility.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 6, 2013 8:44:55am |
re: #162 calochortus
If you think the people marching down the street in Le Miz singing their hearts out are far left and people won’t support the far left, well that leaves the monarchy doesn’t it?
OK, I was being intentionally provocative-but you seem married to the status quo and I’d be happy if you looked outside “the way things are” and contemplated the idea that change might be beneficial. Not guaranteed to be so, but a possibility.
We’ve been over this before here, but I’ll explain again: I am normally not in favor of major change because I use stability and routine to keep myself calm and able to work. It has to do with the way my head works, or at times doesn’t work.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Apr 6, 2013 8:46:44am |
re: #163 Dark_Falcon
We’ve been over this before here, but I’ll explain again: I am normally not in favor of major change because I use stability and routine to keep myself calm and able to work. It has to do with the way my head works, or at times doesn’t work.
That puts you more in line with the German poet/thinker Goethe, who looked at the chaos following the French Revolution and decided that Germany was better off with a passel of petty but stable monarchies.
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Gus Sat, Apr 6, 2013 8:48:38am |
“No honest man needs more than 10 rounds in any gun.”
— William B. Ruger Sr.
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calochortus Sat, Apr 6, 2013 8:48:46am |
re: #163 Dark_Falcon
And that’s fine, but hardly a way to organize society. I’m not a fan of upheaval and revolution myself, there’s a lot of waste and carnage involved. That’s why I support incremental change towards greater equality and fairness. Changes occur. That’s just how life is and resisting any change is IMHO more likely to lead to a major upheaval later.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Apr 6, 2013 8:50:21am |
re: #165 Gus
“No honest man needs more than 10 rounds in any gun.”
— William B. Ruger Sr.
The key term here is “honest”…as in with the old NRA argument that you need a 30-round mag to stop a dishonest man with a 20-rounder.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 6, 2013 8:51:43am |
re: #166 calochortus
And that’s fine, but hardly a way to organize society. I’m not a fan of upheaval and revolution myself, there’s a lot of waste and carnage involved. That’s why I support incremental change towards greater equality and fairness. Changes occur. That’s just how life is and resisting any change is IMHO more likely to lead to a major upheaval later.
I know that, too. My thoughts on such matters are often a contradiction, and I don’t commend most of them to others as good ways to think about the problems of political change. They are thoughts and attitudes intended to help me deal with the things I need to deal with in my life while trying to problem solve.
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Mattand Sat, Apr 6, 2013 8:52:20am |
re: #167 Sol Berdinowitz
The key term here is “honest”…as in with the old NRA argument that you need a 30-round mag to stop a dishonest man with a 20-rounder.
Never heard that one before, although I would imagine a well-placed shot from a 6 rounder can stop the 30 round nutjob. Although spray-and-pray is probably easier.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sat, Apr 6, 2013 8:54:16am |
re: #163 Dark_Falcon
We’ve been over this before here, but I’ll explain again: I am normally not in favor of major change because I use stability and routine to keep myself calm and able to work. It has to do with the way my head works, or at times doesn’t work.
Just like what works for a household budget doesn’t work for a country, the way that you need to keep your head together doesn’t work for culture and civilization as a whole.
I have really no idea why you think it would.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Apr 6, 2013 8:55:16am |
re: #169 Mattand
Never heard that one before, although I would imaging a well-placed shot from a 6 rounder can stop the 30 round nutjob. Although spray-and-pray is probably easier.
A gun in the hands of a good, law-abiding conservative is a magical token that will keep evil at bay, even without training, nerves or sound judgement. Especially in schools and other public places full of people panicking at the sound of gunshots and the sight of dead/wounded.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sat, Apr 6, 2013 8:56:45am |
re: #166 calochortus
You need revolution a lot of the time, and we’ll need it more and more often as time goes on.
To give a good example, medical schools are still teaching in mostly the same way that they were fifty years ago, but they’re teaching, literally, eight times the information. The amount of time hasn’t really increased— students have turned to technology to help them absorb the information enough to pass the tests, but the system is obviously flawed. However, it is really difficult to change because of the years the administrators and senior faculty have invested in the old ways, and the amount of work it’d take to come up with real curricula.
It is much easier, ironically, to transform the teaching of the non-sciences than it is the sciences. Still very hard, though.
We are about fifty revolutions behind, by my count.
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Gus Sat, Apr 6, 2013 8:58:31am |
Anti-Morsi protester in front of Supreme Court in a caveman costume. ‘Egypt’s destiny’ reads the banner. #Egypt twitter.com/JonathanRashad…— Jonathan Rashad (@JonathanRashad) April 6, 2013
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:00:57am |
In 1968North Korea captured USS Pueblo. US prisoners indicated their displeasure with their captors. #korea twitter.com/OracleofWallSt…— Oracle of Wall St (@OracleofWallSt) April 6, 2013
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calochortus Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:01:52am |
re: #172 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
There are revolutions and revolutions. Changing the way they run medical schools (and residency) in a “revolutionary” way probably will not involve blood in the streets. An actual political revolution is rarely preferable to incremental changes at some reasonable pace.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:02:32am |
re: #176 calochortus
There are revolutions and revolutions. Changing the way they run medical schools (and residency) in a “revolutionary” way probably will not involve blood in the streets. An actual political revolution is rarely preferable to incremental changes at some reasonable pace.
Quoted For Truth.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:03:47am |
Unfortunate background graphic on Swedish morning TV twitter.com/stevenjgibbons…— Steven J. Gibbons (@stevenjgibbons) April 5, 2013
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:03:50am |
Ah, the library has the copies of Rick Atkinson’s books I requested: An Army At Dawn & The Day of Battle, the first two volumes of his Liberation Trilogy. I want to reread them as the third volume is finally coming out in May: The Guns at Last Light.
Off to the library - BBL.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:06:17am |
re: #176 calochortus
There are revolutions and revolutions. Changing the way they run medical schools (and residency) in a “revolutionary” way probably will not involve blood in the streets. An actual political revolution is rarely preferable to incremental changes at some reasonable pace.
Changing hierarchical, authoritarian, top-down institutions is all but impossible without revolution.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:10:31am |
re: #180 Sol Berdinowitz
Changing hierarchical, authoritarian, top-down institutions is all but impossible without revolution.
And thus it is sometimes preferable to accept an unsatisfactory status quo rather than trying to force changes, because the forcing will get people killed.
But sometimes changes may have to be forced despite bloodshed being involved. “And there, as The Bard would tell us, is the Rub.”
The quoted line was from Clive Owen’s character in Inside Man.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:10:51am |
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:12:03am |
re: #176 calochortus
There are revolutions and revolutions. Changing the way they run medical schools (and residency) in a “revolutionary” way probably will not involve blood in the streets. An actual political revolution is rarely preferable to incremental changes at some reasonable pace.
A lot of the time the amount of blood isn’t determined by the revolutionaries, but by those spilling their blood.
I guess it depends what you mean. Was the Indian independence movement ‘revolutionary’? They wanted a very dramatic, huge change in their state. Independence seems pretty revolutionary to me.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:12:07am |
re: #180 Sol Berdinowitz
Changing hierarchical, authoritarian, top-down institutions is all but impossible without revolution.
I think we can breed them out.
We’ve seen great changes in social norms in the last 50 years with only isolated violence.
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kirkspencer Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:12:17am |
re: #180 Sol Berdinowitz
Changing hierarchical, authoritarian, top-down institutions is all but impossible without revolution.
Counter-argument: gay marriage.
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Gus Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:13:37am |
re: #180 Sol Berdinowitz
Changing hierarchical, authoritarian, top-down institutions is all but impossible without revolution.
History has shown that this only results in a new — and sometimes more oppressive — hierarchical, authoritarian, top-down institutions.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:13:41am |
re: #187 kirkspencer
Counter-argument: gay marriage.
The US government isn’t an authoritarian institution.
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calochortus Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:16:18am |
re: #185 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
A lot of the time the amount of blood isn’t determined by the revolutionaries, but by those spilling their blood.
I guess it depends what you mean. Was the Indian independence movement ‘revolutionary’? They wanted a very dramatic, huge change in their state. Independence seems pretty revolutionary to me.
That is true, but the powers that be are often willing to spill a lot of blood-and even if they aren’t there is often violence involved in deciding who will run the new government. On average I’d say political revolution is more likely to be violent than a scientific one.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:16:56am |
re: #188 Gus
History has shown that this only results in a new — and sometimes more oppressive — hierarchical, authoritarian, top-down institutions.
There have been revolutions that have produced governments worse than those that came before, and better. There are revolutions that came about through ideological zeal and desire for power, and there are revolutions that came about simply because the oppression could no longer be borne. It’s hard to generalize about them, or even define them.
I guess the easiest way to define it is any time a government changes not by the legal means established for that change of government. Except this means that places like China and the USSR experienced a lot of ‘revolutions’, since the way power transfers there is often not by the actual legal political mechanisms, except as a fig leaf.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:18:57am |
re: #190 calochortus
That is true, but the powers that be are often willing to spill a lot of blood-and even if they aren’t there is often violence involved in deciding who will run the new government. On average I’d say political revolution is more likely to be violent than a scientific one.
The med school thing isn’t an example of a scientific revolution, it’s an example of a revolution that’s needed in how we teach science. That’s the kind of sadly amusing part— ‘evidence based medicine’, as in, only giving treatment when backed up by scientific evidence— is the absolutely accepted way to practice medicine. That doesn’t, however, mean we use ‘evidence based teaching’ of ‘evidence based medicine’. Therein lies the irony.
Anyway, it’s still ‘politics’ inside universities, just not politics with guns.
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calochortus Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:21:59am |
re: #192 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
The med school thing isn’t an example of a scientific revolution, it’s an example of a revolution that’s needed in how we teach science. That’s the kind of sadly amusing part— ‘evidence based medicine’, as in, only giving treatment when backed up by scientific evidence— is the absolutely accepted way to practice medicine. That doesn’t, however, mean we use ‘evidence based teaching’ of ‘evidence based medicine’. Therein lies the irony.
Anyway, it’s still ‘politics’ inside universities, just not politics with guns.
I know, I was mixing my metaphors. Sometimes academic fights are the most vicious (because there’s the least at stake, as they say.)
I do wish med schools/hospitals would pay attention to the science and let students get some sleep so they could learn efficiently.
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kirkspencer Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:25:49am |
re: #189 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
The US government isn’t an authoritarian institution.
Literally no. Functionally, sometimes. Also, consider state governments as well as federal.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:30:54am |
re: #194 kirkspencer
Literally no. Functionally, sometimes. Also, consider state governments as well as federal.
Still isn’t, not in the forms at least. Cases where state governments abused their citizens were in defiance of American ideals, not in support of them.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:31:06am |
re: #194 kirkspencer
Literally no. Functionally, sometimes. Also, consider state governments as well as federal.
I am. They’re all extremely, extremely far from ‘authoritarian’. We are incredibly lucky, even with the bizarre assholes in the GOP obstructing up the wazoo, in the political freedom we have in this country. There’s a lot of abuses— like the debtors prison stuff— but compared to an actual authoritarian country we are stellar. It’s silly to compare us to an authoritarian country, of course, because our standard is much higher.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:33:27am |
We, as citizens, don’t use many of our political freedoms as well as we should to get better government. Our government winds up having a lot more pull from moneyed and political interests and it’s hard for ordinary citizens to band together to have their voices heard. This is a special problem that happens with democracies, rule-exploitation of the political structure. I don’t really know how to describe it pithily, nor how to fix it; any complex system has a way to be gamed. Gerrymandering can be used to carve out a ‘safe’ district or to make a district highly contestable; it just depends which way you draw the line. To have a government capable of doing good, we have to have one capable of doing ill.
At least until we develop AIs to save our asses.
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Tigger2005 Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:33:43am |
So if it’s OK to hit kids to “teach them manners,” it’s also OK to hit young men to teach them how to pass a basketball.
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calochortus Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:40:58am |
Important(?) Philosophical Question: Why is it that the ‘to-do’ list I made up last night looked a lot better when I wrote the stuff down than it does now that I actually should start doing the stuff? The abstract vs the concrete.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:45:05am |
re: #199 calochortus
Important(?) Philosophical Question: Why is it that the ‘to-do’ list I made up last night looked a lot better when I wrote the stuff down than it does now that I actually should start doing the stuff? The abstract vs the concrete.
A proper to do list is just a way of organizing what should already be set in your mind and making sure you don’t overlook anything along the way.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:45:44am |
re: #196 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
I am. They’re all extremely, extremely far from ‘authoritarian’. We are incredibly lucky, even with the bizarre assholes in the GOP obstructing up the wazoo, in the political freedom we have in this country. There’s a lot of abuses— like the debtors prison stuff— but compared to an actual authoritarian country we are stellar. It’s silly to compare us to an authoritarian country, of course, because our standard is much higher.
Better than an authoritarian country —yes. Against other countries in the developed world, there is still much room for freedoms for women/minorities.
It’s unfortunate we have STILL have to look at the issue from a gender/race viewpoint.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:47:23am |
re: #198 Tigger2005
So if it’s OK to hit kids to “teach them manners,” it’s also OK to hit young men to teach them how to pass a basketball.
Thankfully we are seeing the end of a nasty era in coaching. Gone will be the days of Bobby Knight and Mike Rice. Coaches should be teachers and motivators and leaders of our youth not effen bullies and egotists coaches.
Coach K should be an example of one of the greatest college basketball coach that never struck nor bullied his players. Sure he’d yell at you but he also showed great respect for his kids.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:54:29am |
re: #203 HoosierHoops
Thankfully we are seeing the end of a nasty era in coaching. Gone will be the days of Bobby Knight and Mike Rice. Coaches should be teachers and motivators and leaders of our youth not effen bullies and egotists coaches.
Coach K should be an example of one of the greatest college basketball coach that never struck nor bullied his players. Sure he’d yell at you but he also showed great respect for his kids.
A financially successful college athletics program is a prime example of an autoritarian, top-down model of organization.
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calochortus Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:54:53am |
re: #201 Sol Berdinowitz
A proper to do list is just a way of organizing what should already be set in your mind and making sure you don’t overlook anything along the way.
Of course-and I’m all about making lists. I’ve been known to write things on a list after I’ve done them just so I can cross them out.
It’s just that the list I made last night actually made me look forward to getting started on building a small raised bed, working on patching some drywall in the wake of a plumbing upgrade, and, well, I never exactly look forward to doing the laundry, but it would be done. I’m hoping that a second cup of coffee will give me the jolt I need to head for the hardware store to find a longer nipple for the tub spout that the plumber didn’t provide for a reason that totally escapes me. (Long story. Not interesting.)
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:56:02am |
re: #205 calochortus
I’m hoping that a second cup of coffee will give me the jolt I need to head for the hardware store to find a longer nipple for the tub spout that the plumber didn’t provide for a reason that totally escapes me. (Long story. Not interesting.)
Even with nipples?
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calochortus Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:59:08am |
re: #206 Sol Berdinowitz
Even with nipples?
I have my own, thank you very much… (Being of the female persuasion.)
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:02:54am |
re: #207 calochortus
I have my own, thank you very much… (Being of the female persuasion.)
males don’t?
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jamesfirecat Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:06:46am |
re: #101 Dark_Falcon
The vid was from Le Miz. and the people depicted were definitely “left”. I was saying that symbols matter and if you use the symbols of the radical leftist, then most people who are right of center (including me) will see you as a radical leftist.
The people depicted in Le Miz were rebelling against the aristocratic overlords before Communist manifesto had even been written (just went to wikipedia to be sure) they are only “left” in the sense that they are powerless street people who want to be given an even shake.
Just for reference DF can you give me any examples of a “right”/”conservative” revolution?
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:06:47am |
#208
now I am confused…are mine too short?
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calochortus Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:07:42am |
re: #208 FemNaziBitch
males don’t?
Ya know, I was going to put a disclaimer in to that effect, but figured it would simply be excess verbiage since I suspect the assumption was that someone messing with drywall and plumbing was a guy and would be interested in nipples even if they were made of galvanized steel or brass or something.
But hey, have an upding just for the heck of it.
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HappyWarrior Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:10:13am |
re: #203 HoosierHoops
Thankfully we are seeing the end of a nasty era in coaching. Gone will be the days of Bobby Knight and Mike Rice. Coaches should be teachers and motivators and leaders of our youth not effen bullies and egotists coaches.
Coach K should be an example of one of the greatest college basketball coach that never struck nor bullied his players. Sure he’d yell at you but he also showed great respect for his kids.
As a Colts fan, I know you are familiar with Tony Dungy as well. Some people stupidly feel that in order to be a good and effective coach that you have to yell and curse at your players. Good example with Coach K. Before my time but my understanding is that John Wooden was a pretty calm guy too. PTI had Jim Boeheim on the other day and he was pretty disgusted with how Rice acted.
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HappyWarrior Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:14:28am |
Frankly I am sick of conservatives like Hannity complaining about stuff like this being due to “political correctness.” I’m sorry but shut the fuck up. That’s not political correctness. Rice was a bully and abuser. Really someone brought up here the other day but the fact that there was genuine outrage directed at General Patton in the 40’s when he slapped a shell-shocked soldier shows you that even in “the good old days” that this kind of behavior would not be condoned.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:16:09am |
re: #209 jamesfirecat
The people depicted in Le Miz were rebelling against the aristocratic overlords before Communist manifesto had even been written (just went to wikipedia to be sure) they are only “left” in the sense that they are powerless street people who want to be given an even shake.
Just for reference DF can you give me any examples of a “right”/”conservative” revolution?
Exactly.
What strikes me most about the production of Le Mis is the timing. A story about a man unjustly jailed for a petty crime of necessity in a time when we have the highest incarceration rate in the world.
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jamesfirecat Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:17:03am |
By the way DF on a less confrontational note give the discussion you were in a few days ago, if you ever get the chance to take a vacation to Europe /England make sure to visit the Bovington tank Measum they have one of the last /the last operational Tiger Tanks in the world plus one of just about every iconic World War Two tank (panther, t-34 Sherman, Sherman firefly, Sherman dd, jagdpanther (probably misspelled that and I know technically tank destroyer not tank) along with a nice little lead in tour showing off the horrors of World War One trench warfare which made the tank necessary in the first place to break the stalemate and allow ground to be seized in miles rather than inches, tours are very informative, and of course the entire area is more or less set up right where tanking began in the first place since of course the first tanks were made by the British.
That goes for anyone else with an interest in tanks and planning to go to Europe /England as well by the way.
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HappyWarrior Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:19:00am |
re: #214 FemNaziBitch
Exactly.
What strikes me most about the production of Le Mis is the timing. A story about a man unjustly jailed for a petty crime of necessity in a time when we have the highest incarceration rate in the world.
That article about the 3 strikes law was alarming. There’s also a new book out about that case in Pennsylvania where the judges were being bribed to impose long sentences on kids.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:20:22am |
Tell me Jean-Paul, how was you date with Yvette?
-She was a lay miserable!
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Gus Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:21:04am |
@davidbrin1 I’ve sent 4,000 books to Ghana schools & have more!booksmatter.org. $10 ships 10 books. RT:) twitter.com/ksammyg/status…— Keith Goddard (@ksammyg) April 2, 2013
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jamesfirecat Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:21:52am |
Also for those intersted my tour of Europe with the family has currently take me from France (Bayeux in particular) to Amsterdam.
Contrary to. Popular beliefs there is more to the city than prostitution.
There is also the pot,
And the cannals.
And the wooden shoes.
And lots of famous artists.
And the tulips.
And the windmills (though you have to go out of the city to see them.)
Ad the bicycles.
And a couple of cats some of whome swim.
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FemNaziBitch Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:24:42am |
re: #216 HappyWarrior
That article about the 3 strikes law was alarming. There’s also a new book out about that case in Pennsylvania where the judges were being bribed to impose long sentences on kids.
Yes, the status quo has shifted, Americans by-and-large have not. Our attitudes and values are pretty stable. We don’t go for this kind of shit.
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HappyWarrior Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:24:59am |
re: #219 jamesfirecat
Also for those intersted my tour of Europe with the family has currently take me from France (Bayeux in particular) to Ampsterdam.
Contrary to. Popular beliefs there is more to the city than prostitution.
There is also the pot,
And the cannals.
And the wooden shoes.
And lots of famous artists.
And the tulips.
And the windmills (though you have to go out of the city to see them.)
Ad the bicycles.
And a couple of cats some of whome swim.
Sounds like a cool trip. I was in Central Europe five years ago (Germany, Hungary, Austria, and the Czech Republic.). Prague’s as great as everyone says it is but man it’s expensive.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:27:00am |
re: #213 HappyWarrior
Frankly I am sick of conservatives like Hannity complaining about stuff like this being due to “political correctness.” I’m sorry but shut the fuck up. That’s not political correctness. Rice was a bully and abuser. Really someone brought up here the other day but the fact that there was genuine outrage directed at General Patton in the 40’s when he slapped a shell-shocked soldier shows you that even in “the good old days” that this kind of behavior would not be condoned.
Could not agree more.. Eric Bolling the other day likened it to wussification of American Youth. He is so full of shit. Calling players out with gay slurs and throwing balls or placing your hands upon them in a unwanted way is so 20th century. Bunch of fucking dinosaurs of coaching. I was lucky to have great coaches. They inspired me to do more than I ever thought I could. My lessons in life when confronted with what I thought was impossible odds was to overcome and succeed. That’s a great coach, He doesn’t teach you just to win a game but to win in life.
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jamesfirecat Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:28:00am |
re: #222 HappyWarrior
Sounds like a cool trip. I was in Central Europe five years ago (Germany, Hungary, Austria, and the Czech Republic.). Prague’s as great as everyone says it is but man it’s expensive.
We’re doing the more mundane stops, England, France, Netherlands, and Germany, or London, Beyuax, Amsterdam and Berlin… Granted one of these is not like the other.
London is in a completely different time zone from the other three!
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HappyWarrior Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:29:21am |
re: #224 jamesfirecat
We’re doing the more mundane stops, England, France, Netherlands, and Germany, or London, Beyuax, Amsterdam and Berlin… Granted one of these is not like the other.
London is in a completely different time zone from the other three!
Berlin’s fun. I enjoyed it. My favorite city in Germany was Munich. I only had a layover in London. Wish I could see more of it especially having family living there now.
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calochortus Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:30:28am |
The second cup of coffee has worked its magic and it’s time to start doing stuff.
BBL
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HappyWarrior Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:31:01am |
re: #223 HoosierHoops
Could not agree more.. Eric Bolling the other day likened it to wussification of American Youth. He is so full of shit. Calling players out with gay slurs and throwing balls or placing your hands upon them in a unwanted way is so 20th century. Bunch of fucking dinosaurs of coaching. I was lucky to have great coaches. They inspired me to do more than I ever thought I could. My lessons in life when confronted with what I thought was impossible odds was to overcome and succeed. That’s a great coach, He doesn’t teach you just to win a game but to win in life.
He really is. Really I am sick of dinosaurs like Bolling acting like being bothered by such things makes you a wussy. The real wussies are the ones who think Rice’s actions were legitimate and build character. Agree with you about coaches and coaching. The best ones are ones that teach you not about the sport but about life.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:32:01am |
re: #219 jamesfirecat
Also for those intersted my tour of Europe with the family has currently take me from France (Bayeux in particular) to Amsterdam.
Contrary to. Popular beliefs there is more to the city than prostitution.
There is also the pot,
And the cannals.
And the wooden shoes.
And lots of famous artists.
And the tulips.
And the windmills (though you have to go out of the city to see them.)
Ad the bicycles.
And a couple of cats some of whome swim.
Let me recommend the Cafe Metz (hard to find, you gotta go into the Metz Department store and take the elevator to the top floor, but you are rewarded with a view of the downtown and harbor out of window that slope outwards like an air control tower)
And the Cafe de Jaaren near the Hotel l’Europe, also easy to walk past, it looks like a giant art gallery, also gret views of the canal.
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Gus Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:32:48am |
re: #219 jamesfirecat
…And a couple of cats some of whome swim.
Yeah, but do they dive under water and come up with fish in their jaws? //
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jamesfirecat Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:35:03am |
re: #229 Gus
Yeah, but do they dive under water and come up with fish in their jaws? //
No I think their prefered method of getting food is to either grab one of the many ducks swimming in the cannal or just swim from houseboat to houseboat looking for food.
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BongCrodny Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:35:13am |
re: #154 William Barnett-Lewis
Try reading Keynes himself sometime. Brilliant thinker & often hilarious writer. The Economic Consequences of the Peace from 1919 is fascinating in hindsight & The General Theory of Employment, Interest & Money from 1936 remains the most easily readable “important work” since Adam Smith (who rarely said what certain quarters think he said… )
If you haven’t done so yet, check out Dr. Krugman’s column from yesterday’s Times.
There’s some gloating in there, but it’s a nice takedown of the “..but the DEFICIT!!” guys.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:37:15am |
re: #232 BongCrodny
There’s some gloating in there, but it’s a nice takedown of the “..but the DEFICIT!!” guys.
I remember back in the 90’s when the government was running a surplus and Rush Limbaugh was attacking Clinton for it, stating that it is immoral for the government to take more taxes from us than it needs to operate…
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:40:38am |
re: #224 jamesfirecat
We’re doing the more mundane stops, England, France, Netherlands, and Germany, or London, Beyuax, Amsterdam and Berlin… Granted one of these is not like the other.
London is in a completely different time zone from the other three!
I liked Amsterdam. The food is awesome ( Breads to die for ) Enjoyed the museums and culture of old world..The people are wonderful but what struck me was how important dinner was with friends and family..They go out and spend hours to enjoy talking and sharing. We would spent 2 or 3 hours at dinner together talking and joking with Colleagues. It’s normal there to spend so long having a dinner. And damn..There is more bikes than I’ve ever seen in one city. Love that city!
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jamesfirecat Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:44:16am |
re: #235 HoosierHoops
I liked Amsterdam. The food is awesome ( Breads to die for ) Enjoyed the museums and culture of old world..The people are wonderful but what struck me was how important dinner was with friends and family..They go out and spend hours to enjoy talking and sharing. We would spent 2 or 3 hours at dinner together talking and joking with Colleagues. It’s normal there to spend so long having a dinner. And damn..There is more bikes than I’ve ever seen in one city. Love that city!
Honeslty its sort of like if Canda is America but ten degrees more liberal, Amsterdam is like twenty degrees more liberal than Canada and probably the city most sane liberals would advocate the US model itself after, you can have a car but most people bike/take public transportation (though on the other hand we also ended up getting a run around costing us around $20 in traveling expenses and an hour of time when a Tram Driver incorrectly told us some bus tickets we got online would not work unless we went to the central office to redeem them when in point of fact they would have worked just fine if we used them as we had them, if he did not know he just should have told us it straight off rather than making up some plausible sounding bullshit) and well I do not even need to get into the aspect of what is legal there….
Also can not say anything on the dinners since I am eating with my own family and we continue to have dinner at our own American pace.
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JeffFX Sat, Apr 6, 2013 10:59:42am |
re: #218 Gus
Thanks for making me aware of this Gus. I’ve made a contribution to send 50 books, and will try to make it an ongoing thing. You just made a difference in the world with your post.
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Gus Sat, Apr 6, 2013 11:02:50am |
re: #237 JeffFX
Thanks for making me aware of this Gus. I’ve made a contribution to send 50 books, and will try to make it an ongoing thing. You just made a difference in the world with your post.
Least I can do is help spread the word. Those kids being so happy with those books brought tears to my eyes. We have so many things here in the USA that we toss in the garbage that brings happiness to those less fortunate around the world.
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funky chicken Sat, Apr 6, 2013 11:12:08am |
re: #193 calochortus
I know, I was mixing my metaphors. Sometimes academic fights are the most vicious (because there’s the least at stake, as they say.)
I do wish med schools/hospitals would pay attention to the science and let students get some sleep so they could learn efficiently.
I am currently working at one and it has made dramatic changes addressing that issue.
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JeffFX Sat, Apr 6, 2013 11:18:05am |
re: #238 Gus
Least I can do is help spread the word. Those kids being so happy with those books brought tears to my eyes. We have so many things here in the USA that we toss in the garbage that brings happiness to those less fortunate around the world.
It’s pretty great that any of us can make a difference in the lives of so many kids for what we’d spend on a game.
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