Some ‘Government Intrusion’ Video Ideas for Senator Ron Johnson

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Dear Senator Ron Johnson:

I read in the Oshkosh Northwestern (our hometown newspaper) today that, as part of your official duties as a U.S. Senator, you are producing videos of people who have been harmed by government intrusion or red tape. The paper went on to describe the subject of your first video, the sad story of Steve Lathrop, “a man who bought an old dump in a flood plain and converted it into a lake to prevent future flooding”…

The nearly three-minute video says the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers subsequently threatened Lathrop with fines and jail time unless he converted the land back because the Army Corps had designated the area as wetlands. The video said the Corps of Engineers also referred Lathrop to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency for prosecution, but the EPA declined to charge him. Lathrop instead planned to follow EPA guidelines to create new wetlands on the adjacent farm, which required a permit. The permit still has not arrived from the Corps of Engineers even though Lathrop applied for it 14 years ago, the video said.

Johnson is inviting people who watch the first video to click on a link and share other stories that could provide the basis for future installments.

Waiting for a permit for 14 years! What an injustice! How intrusive!!

Well, if you really want to expose intrusive government, there’s no need to wait for people to click on your link. There are 305 stories just begging to be publicized over at The Innocence Project. These are stories not of people who have been waiting for a permit (to do something they apparently don’t want to do anyway), but rather of people who have been convicted by the government of crimes they did not commit, and as a result have rotted away in prison for, in some cases, over thirty years. I suggest you direct your keen eye for intrusive government at them; here are a few of the most egregious cases to get you started:

Cross-posted at blogherenow.net

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207 comments
1 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 12:51:05pm

Maybe he can get some stories from women that have been humiliated seeking abortion.

2 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 12:52:43pm

It’s all about ideological consistency, i.e., government regulation is bad, and not about any sort of logical consistency.

3 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 12:53:07pm

Great point on the prisoners that have been exonerated. Somehow I think he could care less about them though.

4 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 12:53:52pm

If waiting for a permit is “government intrusion,” what would you call a mandatory invasive transvaginal ultrasound procedure?

5 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 12:54:33pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

If waiting for a permit is “government intrusion,” what would you call a mandatory invasive transvaginal ultrasound procedure?

A way of preventing abortion that gets around Roe v. Wade

6 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 12:55:50pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

If waiting for a permit is “government intrusion,” what would you call a mandatory invasive transvaginal ultrasound procedure?

Freedom!

7 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 12:56:46pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Small government Republicans. Small enough to fit where it shouldn’t belong.

8 Lidane  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 12:58:38pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

If waiting for a permit is “government intrusion,” what would you call a mandatory invasive transvaginal ultrasound procedure?

Duh. Individual liberty, freedom, and small government. What else?

9 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 12:58:49pm

Government has no business getting in the way of someone trying to make a profit, even if those profits wind up as expenses for those unfortunate enough to live downstream or downwind from the plant…

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10 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:00:24pm

re: #5 Sol Berdinowitz

A way of preventing abortion that gets around violates Roe v. Wade

FTFY

11 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:03:11pm

re: #10 wrenchwench

FTFY

They gotta do something until they finally get around to overturning it or passing a nationwide personhood-starts-at-birth law.

12 ProBosniaLiberal  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:06:56pm

Brown Moses just retweeted this article.

Should America let Syria fight on?

This part caught my attention:

“I’ll come out and say it,” wrote the American historian and polemicist Daniel Pipes, in an e-mail. “Western powers should guide the conflict to stalemate by helping whichever side is losing. The danger of evil forces lessens when they make war on each other.”

Ladies and Gents, we have found the bedrock definition of Moral Bankruptcy. He doesn’t give a damn that people are dying, so long as they are Arab and/or Muslim.

How can someone be this depraved and removed from Humanity?

13 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:09:01pm

re: #11 Sol Berdinowitz

They gotta do something until they finally get around to overturning it or passing a nationwide personhood-starts-at-birth law.

Wonder what the premium is for a $500,000.00 life insurance policy for an embryo? Life insurance for kids is usually pretty cheap. Would a miscarriage be an accident, paying double? Wonder how do the insurance companies feel about this?

14 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:10:29pm

re: #11 Sol Berdinowitz

They gotta do something until they finally get around to overturning it or passing a nationwide personhood-starts-at-birth law.

Last I looked, there could be as many as 400,000 little persons frozen in IVF storage. Would like to see someone in the TPGOP sort that out.

An Open Discussion - The Dilemma of Remaining Frozen Embryos

creatingfamilies.com

15 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:12:51pm

re: #13 Eventual Carrion

Wonder what the premium is for a $500,000.00 life insurance policy for an embryo? Life insurance for kids is usually pretty cheap. Would a miscarriage be an accident, paying double? Wonder how do the insurance companies feel about this?

You are confusing logical consistency with moral purity. That is all the fundamentalists are concerned about: stopping abortion however they can.

16 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:18:02pm

re: #15 Sol Berdinowitz

You are confusing logical consistency with moral purity. That is all the fundamentalists are concerned about: stopping abortion controlling their wimmins however they can.

FTFY.

It ain’t just abortion.

17 Amory Blaine  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:20:56pm

The swing further to the right continues in Wisconsin.

GOP senator who has clashed with party faces a challenger

State Rep. Howard Marklein has announced he will run for the state Senate next year, setting up a possible primary with a fellow Republican who has at times thwarted the GOP agenda in recent years.

Sen. Dale Schultz (R-Richland Center) has been in the Legislature since 1983 but at times has been at odds with GOP leaders. He voted against mining legislation this year and last year and was the only Republican senator to vote against limiting collective bargaining for most public workers in 2011.

Those votes have prompted conservatives to seek a Republican to run for Schultz’s seat.

Over the weekend, Marklein, of Spring Green, announced he would take up that challenge. That immediately prompted an attempt by Democrats to woo Schultz into their caucus - an idea Schultz immediately rejected Monday.

They don’t even tolerate the slightest dissent in their own party and people are being fooled into believing that they will “reach across the aisle”.

18 kirkspencer  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:22:03pm

Just because I’m naturally cynical, I went looking into Stephen Lathrop’s story. I still don’t have everything, but have found enough to know what you’re hearing isn’t the whole.

Among other things, Stephen Lathrop has been involved in a very long-term suit against Granite City. Basically he says he had an agreement to develop the lake and some other land and was supposed to get paid, but this other developer came in and was given it all instead. Claims of RICO violations and bribery and a host of other things are involved.

There’s enough tangle to make me think Senator Johnson would have been well-served to do a full investigation of the situation first, especially since the FBI has been involved in investigating the mess (or so claim both plaintiffs and defendants, with varying claims of what the FBI was really investigating).

19 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:23:14pm

re: #16 wrenchwench

FTFY.


You are confusing logical consistency with moral purity. That is all the fundamentalists are concerned about: stopping abortion controlling their wimmins people however they can.


It ain’t just abortion wimmins.

20 leftynyc  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:25:58pm

More republican outreach:

huffingtonpost.com

snip -In a recording made by County Clerk Don Merriman of the study session, Gile, who is white, can be heard to say the county needed to hire an architect to design the improvements rather than “n*****-rigging it.”
His comment brought laughter from others in the room. Salinan Ray Hruska, who attends most commission meetings and study sessions, asked Gile what he said.

“Afro-Americanized,” Gile replied.

“He’s like that congressman from Alaska,” Commission Chairman Randy Duncan can be heard to say of Gile’s comment.

snip - “I am not a prejudiced person,” Gile told the Salina Journal. “I have built Habitat homes for colored people.”


You would think I have made this up but I can assure you, this person is quite real and an answer to the question “What’s the matter with Kansas?”

21 Amory Blaine  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:26:58pm

re: #17 Amory Blaine

Sentence in the article:

Those votes have prompted conservatives to seek a Republican to run for Schultz’s seat.

Schultz has been a republican in the legislature since 1983.

22 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:27:05pm

re: #18 kirkspencer

Just because I’m naturally cynical, I went looking into Stephen Lathrop’s story. I still don’t have everything, but have found enough to know what you’re hearing isn’t the whole.

Among other things, Stephen Lathrop has been involved in a very long-term suit against Granite City. Basically he says he had an agreement to develop the lake and some other land and was supposed to get paid, but this other developer came in and was given it all instead. Claims of RICO violations and bribery and a host of other things are involved.

There’s enough tangle to make me think Senator Johnson would have been well-served to do a full investigation of the situation first, especially since the FBI has been involved in investigating the mess (or so claim both plaintiffs and defendants, with varying claims of what the FBI was really investigating).

I think that’s a feature not a bug. Johnson just threw this guy’s story out there because it suits his agenda. That there were rumors of bribery and RICO violatoins just furthers adds the big mean government getting the little guy down.

23 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:27:46pm

re: #20 leftynyc

More republican outreach:

huffingtonpost.com

snip -In a recording made by County Clerk Don Merriman of the study session, Gile, who is white, can be heard to say the county needed to hire an architect to design the improvements rather than “n*****-rigging it.”
His comment brought laughter from others in the room. Salinan Ray Hruska, who attends most commission meetings and study sessions, asked Gile what he said.

“Afro-Americanized,” Gile replied.

“He’s like that congressman from Alaska,” Commission Chairman Randy Duncan can be heard to say of Gile’s comment.

snip - “I am not a prejudiced person,” Gile told the Salina Journal. “I have built Habitat homes for colored people.”

You would think I have made this up but I can assure you, this person is quite real and an answer to the question “What’s the matter with Kansas?”

“I have built homes for colored people.” …………….

24 kirkspencer  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:29:01pm

re: #22 HappyWarrior

I think that’s a feature not a bug. Johnson just threw this guy’s story out there because it suits his agenda. That there were rumors of bribery and RICO violatoins just furthers adds the big mean government getting the little guy down.

Yeah, government. Local, county, state, and federal all conspiring against him.

25 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:29:07pm

re: #16 wrenchwench

FTFY.

It ain’t just abortion.

I agree, but abortion is a major target. Then they ban birth control, premarital and extramarital sex.

God will be so pleased with us for that, he will shower us with blessings.

26 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:34:16pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

“I have built homes for colored people.” …………….

It takes a bit to wrap your mind around it, but the culture-bound yahoo might not be a racist, certainly not in his own mind. He might have worked on a lot of houses, most of which do go to blacks. He might be the most salvageable person in his church and fraternal lodge. This thing of ‘making the new man’ is not simple.

27 Amory Blaine  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:34:53pm

re: #17 Amory Blaine

To purge Schultz from the party is not even politically smart. He has not cast any major tie breaking votes for major legislation. He votes against the mine and act 10. Politically it would benefit them to maintain harmless dissenting votes to provide the party cover when their policies explode in their face. Maybe there is some real egregious shit they plan on unleashing in Wisconsin where every vote is precious. *shudder*

28 Kragar  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:35:41pm

Corsi and Rios Explain How Evolution, the ACLU and ‘Powerful Jewish Forces’ Will Destroy America

Rios, who earlier asserted that secular Jews often “turn out to be the worst enemies of the country,” asked Corsi about the “powerful Jewish forces behind the ACLU.” Corsi said that such forces are trying to make America “abandon the Judeo-Christian tradition” and therefore abandoning “values that are fundamental lynchpins of our freedom.”

Rios: I know that there are powerful Jewish forces behind the ACLU; can you just say a word about that very briefly, what’s that all about?

Corsi: There has been a real union between Jews in America and the Democratic Party ever since President Truman agreed with the partition of Palestine and created the state of Israel in 1948 at the UN. But my book is arguing for a Judeo-Christian faith, which is the heart of America. We cannot abandon the Judeo-Christian tradition. If we do we are abandoning our whole values that are fundamental lynchpins of our freedom.

29 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:35:51pm

re: #26 Decatur Deb

It takes a bit to wrap your mind around it, but the culture-bound yahoo might not be a racist, certainly not in his own mind. He might have worked on a lot of houses, most of which do go to blacks. He might be the most salvageable person in his church and fraternal lodge. This thing of ‘making the new man’ is not simple.

Yunno, I could even accept the notion of him making a joke like that in private and not being a racist. But to do so as a public official in a public setting is totally unacceptable.

30 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:39:28pm
31 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:40:59pm

re: #29 Sol Berdinowitz

Yunno, I could even accept the notion of him making a joke like that in private and not being a racist. But to do so as a public official in a public setting is totally unacceptable.

It’s more likely to be unacceptable when it gets loose in the greater world. In his geographic and demographic horizons it could be all too ‘acceptable’.

32 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:42:55pm

re: #31 Decatur Deb

It’s more likely to be unacceptable when it gets loose in the greater world. In his geographic and demographic horizons it could be all too ‘acceptable’.

Hence the phrase ‘culture-bound’. People need to get out more. Way out.

33 Lidane  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:44:02pm

re: #28 Kragar

Corsi and Rios Explain How Evolution, the ACLU and ‘Powerful Jewish Forces’ Will Destroy America

Wait. I’m supposed to fear Da Jooz now? What about the Nazi Communist Socialist Kenyan Moozlim Satanist Overlord in the White House?

I can’t keep up with all the fear-mongering anymore.

34 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:45:57pm

re: #33 Lidane

Wait. I’m supposed to fear Da Jooz now? What about the Nazi Communist Socialist Kenyan Moozlim Satanist Overlord in the White House?

I can’t keep up with all the fear-mongering anymore.

Save some angst for a reprise of the Yellow Peril (DPRK strain).

35 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:48:08pm

re: #33 Lidane

Wait. I’m supposed to fear Da Jooz now? What about the Nazi Communist Socialist Kenyan Moozlim Satanist Overlord in the White House?

I can’t keep up with all the fear-mongering anymore.

Yeah, we need a catalog to know what we’re supposed to fear. More seriously, this is a throwback and what the Catholic League’s Bill Donohue does. Bitches about “bad liberal Jews” but denies he’s Anti-Semitic by saying he believes in “Judeo-Christian” values.

36 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:53:59pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

Yeah, we need a catalog to know what we’re supposed to fear. More seriously, this is a throwback and what the Catholic League’s Bill Donohue does. Bitches about “bad liberal Jews” but denies he’s Anti-Semitic by saying he believes in “Judeo-Christian” values.

Think I grasp this ‘Judeo-Christianism’. Jews have to eat gefultefish on Fridays, and Catholics have to be baptized by immersion—in a mikvah.

37 darthstar  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:54:59pm

re: #36 Decatur Deb

Think I grasp this ‘Judeo-Christianism’. Jews have to eat gefultefish on Fridays, and Catholics have to be baptized by immersion—in a mikvah.

Good luck getting a Catholic to pronounce mikvah.

38 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:56:03pm

re: #37 darthstar

Good luck getting a Catholic to pronounce mikvah.

Hell, I’d love to see my Baptist MIL dance a hora.

39 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:58:35pm

re: #33 Lidane

Wait. I’m supposed to fear Da Jooz now? What about the Nazi Communist Socialist Kenyan Moozlim Satanist Overlord in the White House?

I can’t keep up with all the fear-mongering anymore.

Obama is really a Seekrit Juice.

40 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:59:38pm

OT, but it looks like even O’Keefe thinks that MJ might be right about there being no bug involved in the McConnell tape:

41 celticdragon  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:01:16pm

re: #3 HappyWarrior

Great point on the prisoners that have been exonerated. Somehow I think he could care less about them though.

Or about the legions of cases of prosecutorial misconduct, police malfeasance and the hideous trend towards police militarization, including using SWAT teams to handle delivery of ordinary search or arrest warrants.

42 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:01:17pm

re: #37 darthstar

Good luck getting a Catholic to pronounce mikvah.

Mick-vuh?

43 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:01:58pm

re: #41 celticdragon

Or about the legions of cases of prosecutorial misconduct, police malfeasance and the hideous trend towards police militarization, including using SWAT teams to handle delivery of ordinary search or arrest warrants.

Yep, yep. And lest we forget the abuses of the Drug War.

44 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:03:22pm

re: #42 HappyWarrior

Mick-vuh?

It’s pronounced “throatwobbler mangrove”.

45 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:03:32pm

re: #36 Decatur Deb

Think I grasp this ‘Judeo-Christianism’. Jews have to eat gefultefish on Fridays, and Catholics have to be baptized by immersion—in a mikvah.

I dunno but the Irish pub/Jewish deli place I did trivia last night was fun.

46 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:03:45pm
47 ProBosniaLiberal  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:07:49pm

re: #46 NJDhockeyfan

Am I the only one that thinks the embargo against Cuba is truly silly.

Barring fruitcakes like that choad Ileana Ros-Lehtinen

48 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:09:38pm

re: #47 ProBosniaLiberal

Am I the only one that thinks the embargo against Cuba is truly silly.

Barring fruitcakes like corpulent choad like Ileana Ros-Lehtinen

No. It’s silly and outdated. No fan of the Castros obviously but if we’re doing trade with the fucking PRC, we sound stupidly hypocritical when we claim that we don’t do trade and travel with Cuba because of human rights. And hell, I am of the thought that opening up trade with the US would be a good thing for both parties.

49 dragonath  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:09:50pm

re: #47 ProBosniaLiberal

Barring fruitcakes like corpulent choad like Ileana Ros-Lehtinen

Dude…

50 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:10:32pm

re: #49 dragonath

Dude…

{sigh}

51 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:12:03pm

re: #48 HappyWarrior

No. It’s silly and outdated. No fan of the Castros obviously but if we’re doing trade with the fucking PRC, we sound stupidly hypocritical when we claim that we don’t do trade and travel with Cuba because of human rights. And hell, I am of the thought that opening up trade with the US would be a good thing for both parties.

As I said earlier, it will last until the votes of the aging Batista henchmen are no longer necessary. In the meantime, the embargo will stay in place helping the Castros to stay in power.

52 ProBosniaLiberal  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:12:22pm

re: #49 dragonath

Okay, the corpulent part was a little mean.

Her being choad is otherwise accurate.

53 Kragar  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:15:18pm

Had to go to the doctor this morning, had a lump behind my ear which had been getting bigger, started itching and throbbing last night.

Turns out it was a minor infection, so they lanced and drained it right there in the office and gave me some antibiotics. Now I have a dime size hole in my head which I get to drain and clean out for the next couple days.

Ain’t life grand?

54 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:15:59pm

re: #51 William Barnett-Lewis

As I said earlier, it will last until the votes of the aging Batista henchmen are no longer necessary. In the meantime, the embargo will stay in place helping the Castros to stay in power.

Didn’t see the discussion earlier. Agree with that thesis though. Anyhow, was in Little Havana when I was in South Florida two weeks back. That was cool. I really hope they end the embargo for selfish reasons. Cuba has some beautiful beaches.

55 Jolo5309  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:16:22pm

re: #53 Kragar

Had to go to the doctor this morning, had a lump behind my ear which had been getting bigger, started itching and throbbing last night.

Turns out it was a minor infection, so they lanced and drained it right there in the office and gave me some antibiotics. Now I have a dime size hole in my head which I get to drain and clean out for the next couple days.

Ain’t life grand?

If you can show that it was your brain removed they might move you to senior management.

56 Lidane  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:17:06pm

re: #48 HappyWarrior

No. It’s silly and outdated. No fan of the Castros obviously but if we’re doing trade with the fucking PRC, we sound stupidly hypocritical when we claim that we don’t do trade and travel with Cuba because of human rights.

We’re buddies with the House of Saud. That alone makes our concern trolling about Fidel Castro and human rights entirely hypocritical.

The Cuban embargo is stupid and a Cold War relic that should have died when the USSR imploded. We’d be better off flooding Havana with capitalist dollars than we have been with this retarded embargo.

57 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:17:35pm

re: #53 Kragar


I get to drain and clean out for the next couple days.

Doc could have made it easier for you by installing one of these over the hole!
Image: Beer_tap_skull_guy_by_Kupo_Nut89.jpg

((hope the antibiotics work and it doesn’t get further infected))

58 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:18:29pm

re: #51 William Barnett-Lewis

As I said earlier, it will last until the votes of the aging Batista henchmen are no longer necessary. In the meantime, the embargo will stay in place helping the Castros to stay in power.

This documentary on the Cuban auto world played a few years ago—it ends in something decent and human.

Yank Tanks
imdb.com

59 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:18:41pm

re: #56 Lidane

We’re buddies with the House of Saud. That alone makes our concern trolling about Fidel Castro and human rights entirely hypocritical.

The Cuban embargo is stupid and a Cold War relic that should have died when the USSR imploded. We’d be better off flooding Havana with capitalist dollars than we have been with this retarded embargo.

No argument there. Should have ended the day that the USSR ceased to be.

60 Kragar  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:18:53pm

On the bright side, I have heard that abscess makes the heart grow fonder.

61 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:19:16pm

Is there any way to stop these Jon Stewart videos from auto-playing every time the front page is loaded? I mean, I love Jon Stewart but I hate auto-play.

62 Jolo5309  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:19:47pm

re: #56 Lidane

We’re buddies with the House of Saud. That alone makes our concern trolling about Fidel Castro and human rights entirely hypocritical.

The Cuban embargo is stupid and a Cold War relic that should have died when the USSR imploded. We’d be better off flooding Havana with capitalist dollars than we have been with this retarded embargo.

When I was there in 2007, there certainly seemed to be a lot of people in my hotel from “Toronto” with American accents.

63 Lidane  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:19:47pm

re: #61 Vicious Babushka

Is there any way to stop these Jon Stewart videos from auto-playing every time the front page is loaded? I mean, I love Jon Stewart but I hate auto-play.

Seconded. Autoplay is evil.

64 Kragar  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:19:59pm

re: #61 Vicious Babushka

Is there any way to stop these Jon Stewart videos from auto-playing every time the front page is loaded? I mean, I love Jon Stewart but I hate auto-play.

Autoplay is the DEVIL!

65 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:20:39pm

re: #62 Jolo5309

When I was there in 2007, there certainly seemed to be a lot of people in my hotel from “Toronto” with American accents.

Buncha hosers, eh?

66 jaunte  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:21:12pm

Did McConnell Use Senate Employees for Oppo Research on Ashley Judd?

“…the tape indicates that several of McConnell’s legislative aides, whose salaries are paid by the taxpayer, were involved with producing the oppo research on Judd that was discussed at the February 2 meeting.”

67 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:21:24pm

re: #65 sattv4u2

Buncha hosers, eh?

Bon jour, y’all.

68 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:22:12pm

re: #62 Jolo5309

When I was there in 2007, there certainly seemed to be a lot of people in my hotel from “Toronto” with American accents.

Heh I bet. Honestly the traveling embargo was and is stupid. Perfect propaganda fodder for Castro too btw who I bet used to say “Hey look the American government wants to keep its own people out of our socialist paradise.” I mean the trade embargo I can understand especially in the years of the Cuban Missile Crisis but today I see literally no need for its continued existence.

69 ProBosniaLiberal  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:22:13pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

I have to think that Cuba is better on Human Rights that the damn PRC.

70 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:22:59pm

re: #67 Decatur Deb

Bon jour, y’all.

Gets me thinking of Brad Pitt pretending to be Italian in Inglorious Basterds as Capt. Aldo Rane with his deep Ozark accent. Appalachian not Ozark my bad.

71 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:24:05pm

re: #69 ProBosniaLiberal

I have to think that Cuba is better on Human Rights that the damn PRC.

That was my original point. If we’re doing trade and diplomacy with the PRC, who are one of the world’s worst human rights violators, then there is no reason why we shouldn’t be able to do the same with Cuba.

72 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:25:14pm

re: #70 HappyWarrior

Gets me thinking of Brad Pitt pretending to be Italian in Inglorious Basterds as Capt. Aldo Rane with his deep Ozark accent.

Tel Aviv’s tourist markets sell a lot of ceramic tile plaques glazed with “Shalom, Y’all”.

73 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:25:45pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

That was my original point. If we’re doing trade and diplomacy with the PRC, who are one of the world’s worst human rights violators, then there is no reason why we shouldn’t be able to do the same with Cuba.

We can get sugar cane and tropical fruit from other sources

Cheap stuff for Wal Marts shelves, not so much!!!

//(sortakinda)

74 ProBosniaLiberal  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:29:31pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

Exactly. And I think everyone here knows how I feel about the PRC. Hell, I admit that I wouldn’t donate a dime to help if another earthquake occurred there.

This is the same country that, after our disposal of Bin Laden had a public poll come out where this happened:

: an online poll of 500,000 Chinese citizens, conducted by Phoenix Television indicated that sixty percent agreed that bin Laden’s death was a sad event because “he was an anti-US warrior”.

75 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:31:25pm

re: #72 Decatur Deb

Tel Aviv’s tourist markets sell a lot of ceramic tile plaques glazed with “Shalom, Y’all”.

You can buy them at the Zionist Mall. :)

76 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:31:35pm

re: #74 ProBosniaLiberal

Group blame is stupid. Group blame is stupid. Group blame is stupid.

77 freetoken  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:31:36pm

Lots of GOP silliness today.

MoJo also has a video of the Republican head of the house climate change subcommittee making some outlandish statements:

VIDEO: There’s No “Reasonable” Solution for Climate Change, Says Leader of Climate-Change Subcommittee

The MoJo author indeed gives Stewart too much leeway - the entire series of statements by Stewart are idiotic - Presidents don’t “control” congress (which is one reason why some would prefer a parliamentary system), certainly Obama never controlled the Senate by a 60 vote margin, and so on.

Summarizing Stewart’s argument: Congress didn’t act on it, therefore it must not be true or important.

78 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:33:17pm

re: #74 ProBosniaLiberal

Exactly. And I think everyone here knows how I feel about the PRC. Hell, I admit that I wouldn’t donate a dime to help if another earthquake occurred there.

This is the same country that, after our disposal of Bin Laden had a public poll come out where this happened:

300,000 people in a nation of one billion plus on an online poll. Come on dude.

79 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:35:04pm

re: #74 ProBosniaLiberal

I wouldn’t donate a dime to help if another earthquake occurred there.
,,,,
sixty percent agreed that bin Laden’s death was a sad event because “he was an anti-US warrior

So screw the other 40%,

{sigh}

Whatever you do, DON’T seek professional help. You’ll only be wasting that persons time, time better spent on someone else

80 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:35:27pm

re: #76 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Group blame is stupid. Group blame is stupid. Group blame is stupid.

It is. I wish PBL would get that.

81 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:35:46pm

re: #33 Lidane

Wait. I’m supposed to fear Da Jooz now? What about the Nazi Communist Socialist Kenyan Moozlim Satanist Overlord in the White House?

I can’t keep up with all the fear-mongering anymore.

You’re supposed to fear the eeebil Satanist Nazi Communist Socialist Anti-colonialist same-sex-marriage-supporting Atheist Humanist Islamist Jooz.

It’s simple, really.

82 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:37:33pm

Saudi Arabia builds giant Yemen border fence

Saudi Arabia is building a giant border fence to seal off its troubled frontier with Yemen, Saudi border authorities have told the BBC.

The 1,800km (1,100-mile) fence is set to run from the Red Sea coast in the west to the edge of Oman in the east.

Security has deteriorated on the Yemeni side after its long-term president stepped down in 2012, Saudi border official Lt Col Hamed al-Ahmari said.

Yemen is considered a base of al-Qaeda in the Arabian peninsula (AQAP).

Outrage! Apartheid! Racists!
//

83 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:37:47pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

It is. I wish PBL would get that.

re: #80 HappyWarrior

It is. I wish PBL would get that.

magic Eight Ball Says ,,,

Image: magic-8-ball1.jpg

84 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:37:52pm

re: #79 sattv4u2


I wouldn’t donate a dime to help if another earthquake occurred there.
,,,,
sixty percent agreed that bin Laden’s death was a sad event because “he was an anti-US warrior

So screw the other 40%,

{sigh}

Whatever you do, DON’T seek professional help. You’ll only be wasting that persons time, time better spent on someone else

Hey, this isn’t a ‘who can say the shittiest thing’ competition, idiot.

85 Kragar  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:38:14pm

Former Navy chaplain: ‘Biologist’ Jesus opposed ‘three women and a dog’ marriage

You only have 15 percent of the middle who are hypocrites, who think, Jesus is cool, but I don’t agree with how he defined marriage,” Klingenschmitt said. “When Jesus talks about one flesh, he’s really being a scientist, he’s being a biologist. Because he realizes and he’s articulating simple biology, that when a sperm and an egg form together, they match in a zygote and a new DNA is formed and it becomes one new human flesh.”

“[W]e’re not reading our biology textbooks,” the former chaplain added.

“Which were written by Jesus, as you say,” Pakman pointed out. “Jesus was a biologist.”

SCIENCE!

86 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:38:21pm

re: #84 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Hey, this isn’t a ‘who can say the shittiest thing’ competition, idiot.

Congrats

We have a winner!

87 bratwurst  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:38:39pm

re: #74 ProBosniaLiberal

Exactly. And I think everyone here knows how I feel about the PRC.

Does the phrase “delusions of grandeur” mean anything to you?

88 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:38:55pm

re: #74 ProBosniaLiberal

Exactly. And I think everyone here knows how I feel about the PRC. Hell, I admit that I wouldn’t donate a dime to help if another earthquake occurred there.

This is the same country that, after our disposal of Bin Laden had a public poll come out where this happened:

You suck.

89 freetoken  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:39:15pm

Speaking of idiots and the Senate, everyone’s favorite atavist works at it continually:

Inhofe Can’t Budge an Admiral Who Says Climate Change Matters

90 kirkspencer  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:39:50pm

re: #78 HappyWarrior

300,000 people in a nation of one billion plus on an online poll. Come on dude.

worse - an online poll, conducted of Chinese residents/citizens through the Chinese filters by a US organization.

92 HoosierHoops  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:41:02pm

re: #47 ProBosniaLiberal

Am I the only one that thinks the embargo against Cuba is truly silly.

Barring fruitcakes like that choad Ileana Ros-Lehtinen

Ok…To the main point of your post ( without the choad shit )
Yes it is not only silly but stupid.
Look.. I can get on the phone and get tiks to fly to China without an issue.. How about Russia? No problem..Eastern Europe? Let’s go..
What are we afraid of? Let us normalize relationships with Cuba and bring our influence upon an Island that desperately wants and needs us.. Remember the good old days when Blue Jeans, Soft drinks and Rock and Roll changed our biggest enemies politics? Folks wanted freedom and choices there and we helped exposing the world for them..They changed and wanted freedom. It was grassroots and that is exactly what we need in Cuba..Uh..Are we afraid the influence of Castro will over come America? Please..We are living in 1950’s politics and need to snap out of it.

93 erik_t  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:41:24pm
94 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:41:33pm

re: #90 kirkspencer

worse - an online poll, conducted of Chinese residents/citizens through the Chinese filters by a US organization.

Yep. Really, the Chinese government sucks and I think everyone will agree on that point but I can separate my hatred from that government with the people. Had a few Chinese exchange students as classmates in college. Seemed like nice people.

95 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:42:08pm

re: #74 ProBosniaLiberal

Exactly. And I think everyone here knows how I feel about the PRC. Hell, I admit that I wouldn’t donate a dime to help if another earthquake occurred there.

This is the same country that, after our disposal of Bin Laden had a public poll come out where this happened:

Dude. Eat a snickers, will ya?

96 ProBosniaLiberal  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:44:11pm

re: #82 NJDhockeyfan

Saudi has a bad history with Yemen.

Namely them bullying and destabilizing Yemen.

Up to taking a chunk of the country for them selves. The provinces of Najran and Jizan were taken in 1934. Their used to be a thriving Jewish community in Najran, but they were forced to Yemen, then Israel after Saudi Persecution.

Damn the Saudi Royal Family.

97 freetoken  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:44:14pm

And, just to illustrate that the US doesn’t have a lock on the world’s supply of stupid:

The right to speak out

What do Adam, Eve and the Queen of Sheba have to do with libel reform? Ask David Balding and Mark Thomas, geneticists at University College London (UCL) who received legal threats after they criticized the claims of a firm that sells people details of their genetic ancestry. Or ask the student journalists who feared a libel lawsuit if they covered the row in their university newspaper. Or the senate committee of the same university that was forced to slap down its own rector for actions contrary to academic freedom.

[…]

The story began last July, when Balding and Thomas heard Alistair Moffat, chief executive of genetic-analysis company BritainsDNA and rector of the University of St Andrews, tell BBC radio that his firm had discovered Eve’s grandson and nine Britons directly descended from the Queen of Sheba. He added that a volcanic eruption 70,000 years ago had wiped out all human lineages except those of Adam and Eve, that 97% of men with the last name of Cohen share a single genetic marker and that one-third of British men are descended from the country’s founding lineages. “The Bible, through BritainsDNA, is really starting to come alive,” announced Moffat, a historian.

[…]

A silly claim that I suppose has little consequence, but it goes to show how the magick book can always be used to find a new way to turn a profit.

98 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:44:43pm

re: #94 HappyWarrior

Yep. Really, the Chinese government sucks and I think everyone will agree on that point but I can separate my hatred from that government with the people. Had a few Chinese exchange students as classmates in college. Seemed like nice people.

I know a few Chinese people here and my niece got married to a Chinese guy and stayed after going over as a college exchange student. They are great people. The government is awful, not the people.

99 erik_t  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:45:07pm

re: #90 kirkspencer

worse - an online poll, conducted of Chinese residents/citizens through the Chinese filters by a US organization.

It’s like launching an invasion based on research by Zogby.

(…hey I think I finally figured out OIF….)

100 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:45:13pm

re: #92 HoosierHoops

Ok…To the main point of your post ( without the choad shit )
Yes it is not only silly but stupid.
Look.. I can get on the phone and get tiks to fly to China without an issue.. How about Russia? No problem..Eastern Europe? Let’s go..
What are we afraid of? Let us normalize relationships with Cuba and bring our influence upon an Island that desperately wants and needs us.. Remember the good old days when Blue Jeans, Soft drinks and Rock and Roll changed our biggest enemies politics? Folks wanted freedom and choices there and we helped exposing the world for them..They changed and wanted freedom. It was grassroots and that is exactly what we need in Cuba..Uh..Are we afraid the influence of Castro will over come America? Please..We are living in 1950’s politics and need to snap out of it.

Really. It would be a good thing on both fronts. American tourists could visit Cuba. I know it’d be on my list of places to go (already is but as an lower east coaster, It’d be nice to go to Havana rather than having to fly out of say Toronto or Montreal) and it would be good for the Cubans too.

101 freetoken  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:46:03pm
102 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:46:44pm

re: #100 HappyWarrior

I’d go just to see all the old Mafia haunts!!

103 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:46:49pm

re: #98 NJDhockeyfan

I know a few Chinese people here and my niece got married to a Chinese guy and stayed after going over as a college exchange student. They are great people. The government is awful, not the people.

Yep. Really the government and people are different. It’s like in the Cold War that our problem was with the Soviet and Eastern Bloc governments more so than the actual people who lived there.

104 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:48:07pm

re: #102 sattv4u2

I’d go just to see all the old Mafia haunts!!

Yeah that would be neat. And you just know that if markets ever open up there, that some smart entrepreneur is going to run with that. Shit, I would. You’d get tons of tourists.

105 ProBosniaLiberal  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:49:54pm

re: #98 NJDhockeyfan

My experience with Exchange Students from China was that they were rude and arrogant. In one case, I had a person who was something of a Social Darwinist in regards to the Tibetans and the Uyghurs.

The ones from Saudi, (with the exception of the MSA President person), where much nicer.

106 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:49:55pm

re: #103 HappyWarrior

Yep. Really the government and people are different. It’s like in the Cold War that our problem was with the Soviet and Eastern Bloc governments more so than the actual people who lived there.

I had a Russian friend in Connecticut back in the 80s. He was the nicest guy. He didn’t care for his government either.

107 Jolo5309  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:50:03pm

re: #102 sattv4u2

I’d go just to see all the old Mafia haunts!!

They are awesome.

What is also really cool is the cars, from 1950’s American made cars to 1980 Ladas* and then the Asian influence coming in the 90’s.

* Lada owners mock Moskvitch owners…

108 freetoken  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:50:38pm

Speaking of genetics, a couple of studies published today about common problems:


Researchers confirm multiple genes robustly contribute to schizophrenia risk in replication study

Multiple genes contribute to risk for schizophrenia and appear to function in pathways related to transmission of signals in the brain and immunity, according to an international study led by Virginia Commonwealth University School of Pharmacy researchers.

[…]

Alzheimer gene ABCA7 significantly increases late-onset risk among African Americans

A variation in the gene ABCA7 causes a twofold increase in the risk of late onset Alzheimer disease among African Americans, according to a meta-analysis by a team of researchers including experts from the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania. This is the largest analysis to date to determine genetic risk associated with late-onset Alzheimer disease (LOAD) specifically in African American individuals. The study appears in the April 10 issue of JAMA, a genomics theme issue.

109 HoosierHoops  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:50:49pm

re: #102 sattv4u2

I’d go just to see all the old Mafia haunts!!

All you need to do is head to Vegas Satt..
Not a freaking thing to do with global politics my friend

110 Slap  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:51:09pm

re: #104 HappyWarrior

For me, it’d be the MUSIC!

111 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:51:16pm

re: #107 Jolo5309

They are awesome.

What is also really cool is the cars, from 1950’s American made cars to 1980 Ladas* and then the Asian influence coming in the 90’s.

* Lada owners mock Moskvitch owners…

Yeah I’ve heard people describe it as a time warp. It would be also cool to see a baseball game there. Cuba’s produced some fine players. Tony Perez, Luis Tiant, Tony Oliva, and many others.

112 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:51:44pm

re: #107 Jolo5309

They are awesome.

What is also really cool is the cars, from 1950’s American made cars to 1980 Ladas* and then the Asian influence coming in the 90’s.

* Lada owners mock Moskvitch owners…

Yup Said it on an earleir thread when Cuba came up that I’d go just to get parts for my 57’ Chevy !!

113 dragonath  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:51:56pm

re: #105 ProBosniaLiberal

My experience with Exchange Students from China was that they were rude and arrogant. In one case, I had a person who was something of a Social Darwinist in regards to the Tibetans and the Uyghurs.

The ones from Saudi, (with the exception of the MSA President person), where much nicer.

You know, it’s not a good idea to extrapolate your expectations of an entire population from a bunch of exchange students.

114 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:52:10pm

re: #110 Slap

For me, it’d be the MUSIC!

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I have that CD. Excellent music. But yeah there’s so much I’d like to do if I ever went there.

115 erik_t  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:53:22pm

re: #105 ProBosniaLiberal

My experience with Exchange Students from China was that they were rude and arrogant. In one case, I had a person who was something of a Social Darwinist in regards to the Tibetans and the Uyghurs

I’m sure your cheerful and sparkling attitude toward their nation made them act all the friendlier to you.

///

116 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:53:34pm

re: #109 HoosierHoops

All you need to do is head to Vegas Satt..
Not a freaking thing to do with global politics my friend

Been There, Done That,, MULTIPLE times

Hard to find any semblance if the Mafias influence there anymore. Hell, it’s almost more like Disney Land/ Branson Mo. now.

117 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:54:21pm

re: #115 erik_t

ouch

118 Lidane  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:58:14pm

re: #106 NJDhockeyfan

I had a Russian friend in Connecticut back in the 80s. He was the nicest guy. He didn’t care for his government either.

I had friends in undergrad who were Russian and Ukranian. We used to have some interesting talks, especially about literature and language. Haven’t spoken to any of them in a few years, but I remember them all being very cool people.

119 Jolo5309  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:58:23pm

re: #110 Slap

For me, it’d be the MUSIC!

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We saw them at the Hotel Nacional, people were dancing on the stage with the band by the end of the show.

120 Lidane  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:59:13pm

re: #116 sattv4u2

Been There, Done That,, MULTIPLE times

Hard to find any semblance if the Mafias influence there anymore. Hell, it’s almost more like Disney Land/ Branson Mo. now.

Except with a lot more prostitution and nudity.

121 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:00:33pm

re: #120 Lidane

Except with a lot more prostitution and nudity.

I dunno ‘bout that!!

disneylies.com
/

122 engineer cat  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:01:59pm

lada

i went out with a hongarian voman, she told me dot the lada doors were manufactured from compressed garbage. she told me “how did you know dot you vere out of gas? de car stopped!”. then you turned a handle to access the backup gas tank and knew you had about five or ten miles left to get to a gas station

“bot we didn’t care - we were happy that we could drive at all. you focking americans and your fancy cars…”

123 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:03:41pm

Oh, brother…

Irish teachers union adopts full boycott of Israel

LONDON – The Teachers’ Union of Ireland (TUI) has become the first educational trade union in Europe to adopt a boycott of Israel at its annual congress last week. TUI voted unanimously to endorse Palestinian activists call for an academic boycott of the Jewish state, “including the exchange of scientists, students and academic personalities, as well as all cooperation in research programs.”

It also calls on the Irish Congress of Trade Unions, to “step up its campaign for boycott, divestment and sanctions against the apartheid State of Israel until it lifts its illegal siege of Gaza and its illegal occupation of the West Bank, and agrees to abide by international law and all UN resolutions against it.”

The motion was raised by Jim Roche, a lecturer at the Dublin Institute of Technology and member of the fringe groups Ireland Palestine Solidarity Campaign and Gaza Action, and seconded by the vice-president of the TUI Gerry Quinn.

124 ProBosniaLiberal  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:08:23pm

re: #121 sattv4u2

The Haunted Mansion one is truly weird.

125 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:11:41pm
126 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:13:46pm
127 Bear  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:20:25pm

Perhaps one of you will be able to tell me the significance or reason some persons make the small piles of rocks I see along the roadside. It looks as if there is a bit larger rock at the base and other rocks are stacked one at a time on the base rock. Most of the piles are no more than a foot tall.

Any one know what is going on?

128 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:24:01pm

re: #127 Bear

Perhaps one of you will be able to tell me the significance or reason some persons make the small piles of rocks I see along the roadside. It looks as if there is a bit larger rock at the base and other rocks are stacked one at a time on the base rock. Most of the piles are no more than a foot tall.

Any one know what is going on?

Markers for when ‘they” come!!!

(cue Twlight Zone music)

129 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:24:34pm

re: #61 Vicious Babushka

Is there any way to stop these Jon Stewart videos from auto-playing every time the front page is loaded? I mean, I love Jon Stewart but I hate auto-play.

Move to Canada.

130 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:25:23pm

re: #127 Bear

re: #128 sattv4u2

Markers for when ‘they” come!!!

(cue Twlight Zone music)

They’ll probably come by way of sea!!
Image: rock_people_edited.jpg

131 Stanley Sea  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:26:19pm

re: #127 Bear

Perhaps one of you will be able to tell me the significance or reason some persons make the small piles of rocks I see along the roadside. It looks as if there is a bit larger rock at the base and other rocks are stacked one at a time on the base rock. Most of the piles are no more than a foot tall.

Any one know what is going on?

Hippies. Natural art. We have the same thing here in Encinitas.

132 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:27:57pm

re: #105 ProBosniaLiberal

My experience with Exchange Students from China was that they were rude and arrogant. In one case, I had a person who was something of a Social Darwinist in regards to the Tibetans and the Uyghurs.

The ones from Saudi, (with the exception of the MSA President person), where much nicer.

I once let a black guy use my toilet.

133 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:29:46pm

re: #112 sattv4u2

Yup Said it on an earleir thread when Cuba came up that I’d go just to get parts for my 57’ Chevy !!

Last time I saw my 57 Chevy it was resting on its roof.

134 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:29:48pm

re: #132 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I once let a black guy use my toilet.

I’m surprised he (or anyone else for that matter) wanted too, after you had used it!!!

135 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:30:32pm

re: #133 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Last time I saw my 57 Chevy it was resting on its roof.

:(

You know, there are ways of flipping them rightside up!!

136 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:30:44pm

re: #132 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I once let a black guy use my toilet.

Was he from China?

137 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:34:39pm

re: #129 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Move to Canada.

Auto-play is banned in Canada?

138 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:37:04pm

NJ police: Boy, 4, accidentally shoots neighbor, 6

TOMS RIVER, N.J. (AP) - A 4-year-old who brought a gun outside his southern New Jersey home seriously wounded a 6-year-old neighbor in the head when the weapon discharged as they played together, authorities said Tuesday.

The boy got the .22-caliber rifle from his home in Toms River in and it discharged accidently Monday night, Ocean County Prosecutor Joseph Coronato said. The children were about 15 yards apart.

The younger boy’s mother called 911 to report the shooting, Coronato said.

The 6-year-old was hospitalized in serious condition, authorities said. They did not give more details or identify either boy. The younger child was not hurt.

139 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:37:29pm

re: #129 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

re: #137 Vicious Babushka

Auto-play is banned in Canada?

No

They just don’t have the technology for it yet

Hell, they’re still working on a better way to cut holes in the ice rather than setting the lake on fire to ice fish!!
//

140 Lidane  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:38:15pm

Sorry for the OT, but I just finished watching the documentary King Corn. I thought it was really interesting. Definitely gave me a lot to think about.

142 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:43:57pm

re: #141 Varek Raith

Ancient Jewish Aliens.

143 engineer cat  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:48:17pm

re: #28 Kragar

Corsi and Rios Explain How Evolution, the ACLU and ‘Powerful Jewish Forces’ Will Destroy America

Corsi: There has been a real union between Jews in America and the Democratic Party ever since President Truman agreed with the partition of Palestine and created the state of Israel in 1948 at the UN. But my book is arguing for a Judeo-Christian faith, which is the heart of America. We cannot abandon the Judeo-Christian tradition. If we do we are abandoning our whole values that are fundamental lynchpins of our freedom.

judeo-christianity, just without jews, that’s all

144 Varek Raith  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:53:30pm
145 Kragar  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:55:12pm

re: #144 Varek Raith

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146 engineer cat  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:58:54pm

re: #28 Kragar

Corsi and Rios Explain How Evolution, the ACLU and ‘Powerful Jewish Forces’ Will Destroy America

Rios, who earlier asserted that secular Jews often “turn out to be the worst enemies of the country,”

since they don’t understand the differences between judaism and christianity, they don’t know that ‘secular jews’, by which i’m sure they mean to specify progressive jews, adhere to the basics of judaism every bit as much as any orthodox or hasidic jew

they don’t know that the essence of judaism lies in the commandment to be a good person, to treat all people with compassion.

“that is the whole of the law and the prophets. the rest is commentary”

147 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:05:16pm

re: #11 Sol Berdinowitz

They gotta do something until they finally get around to overturning it or passing a nationwide personhood-starts-at-birth conception law.

I think my fix is what you meant.

At the same time they’ll pass a who-is-actually-a-person-at-birth law. If you’re born anything other than a white male, you’re not a person. //

148 Lidane  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:07:39pm

Posted without comment:

149 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:13:00pm

re: #146 engineer cat

since they don’t understand the differences between judaism and christianity, they don’t know that ‘secular jews’, by which i’m sure they mean to specify progressive jews, adhere to the basics of judaism every bit as much as any orthodox or hasidic jew

they don’t know that the essence of judaism lies in the commandment to be a good person, to treat all people with compassion.

“that is the whole of the law and the prophets. the rest is commentary”

Well, there are also a lot of secular Jews. I’m Jewish. I’m an atheist. A lot of Jews still celebrate Jewish religious holidays while being atheist or agnostic, too.

150 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:17:47pm

re: #148 Lidane

Yeah, I find that mean-spirited. Criticize her policies and their cruelty, but once you get into that territory it’s just spiteful.

151 darthstar  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:19:49pm

McConnell’s got some butt-hurt right now.

152 Lidane  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:21:06pm

re: #150 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Yeah, I find that mean-spirited. Criticize her policies and their cruelty, but once you get into that territory it’s just spiteful.

Well, considering that the people buying the song are in the UK and are presumably well acquainted with her policies and their cruelty, I guess that’s one way of making your feelings known. I don’t know that it’s correct, but at least it’s honest.

I’m not from the UK so her death has had zero impact on me apart from me seeing the her being treated with the same conservative amnesia that sanctified Reagan.

153 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:21:41pm

re: #151 darthstar

McConnell’s got some butt-hurt right now.

Got caught saying shit he didn’t want getting public, hits the panic button labeled “Liberal Plot!”

154 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:22:35pm

re: #150 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Yeah, I find that mean-spirited. Criticize her policies and their cruelty, but once you get into that territory it’s just spiteful.

I know I should feel that way, but honestly, I read a tweet yesterday asking who destroyed the last horcrux and I laughed really hard.

155 darthstar  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:23:52pm

re: #153 Targetpractice

Got caught saying shit he didn’t want getting public, hits the panic button labeled “Liberal Plot!”

He was seriously considering (out loud) attacking Ashley Judd for suffering from pubescent angst?

156 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:26:26pm

re: #152 Lidane

Well, considering that the people buying the song are in the UK and are presumably well acquainted with her policies and their cruelty, I guess that’s one way of making your feelings known. I don’t know that it’s correct, but at least it’s honest.

I’m not from the UK so her death has had zero impact on me apart from me seeing the her being treated with the same conservative amnesia that sanctified Reagan.

There’s lots of honest stuff that’s still classless. I don’t think anyone loses by anything if they don’t play that song when a female opponent of theirs dies.

I understand that anger against her, I really do— I lived in the UK right after her tenure and got an earful of how freakin’ bad she was— but I just don’t see the point of that kind of mockery. It really seems directed at the person and not the policies she held.

157 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:26:45pm

re: #134 sattv4u2

I’m surprised he (or anyone else for that matter) wanted too, after you had used it!!!

I’m never quite sure how to respond to narrow minded bigotry.

158 Mattand  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:26:59pm

re: #155 darthstar

He was seriously considering (out loud) attacking Ashley Judd for suffering from pubescent angst?

I’m wondering if one of his staff realized they were Republicans, and their humanity and conscience came surging back. Maybe they leaked the tape as a form of penance.

159 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:26:59pm

re: #155 darthstar

He was seriously considering (out loud) attacking Ashley Judd for suffering from pubescent angst?

So goes the recording. And now he’s landed his ass in some serious trouble. MJ has pointed out that, based upon the recording, some or all of the research might have been done by legislative aides. If that’s the case, then McConnell’s in breach of Congressional ethics.

160 Stanley Sea  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:27:59pm

re: #152 Lidane

Well, considering that the people buying the song are in the UK and are presumably well acquainted with her policies and their cruelty, I guess that’s one way of making your feelings known. I don’t know that it’s correct, but at least it’s honest.

I’m not from the UK so her death has had zero impact on me apart from me seeing the her being treated with the same conservative amnesia that sanctified Reagan.

Sully Dish had an excellent post the other day about the music she inspired. A LOT.

161 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:28:15pm

re: #135 sattv4u2

:(

You know, there are ways of flipping them rightside up!!

My mom’s husband (my dad’s cousin) had stripped a pile of goodies from the undercarriage. That’s why he flipped it over.

162 Stanley Sea  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:29:18pm

re: #153 Targetpractice

Got caught saying shit he didn’t want getting public, hits the panic button labeled “Liberal Plot!”

Hahahahaha. Watergate!

My bet = unpaid intern

163 Mattand  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:29:33pm

re: #159 Targetpractice

So goes the recording. And now he’s landed his ass in some serious trouble. MJ has pointed out that, based upon the recording, some or all of the research might have been done by legislative aides. If that’s the case, then McConnell’s in breach of Congressional ethics.

There’s a breach if they did it on the clock. If it was done after work or during a break, they’re in the clear.

I would imagine that McConnell’s savvy enough to not get burned on something like that. Then again, the recording was just made public.

164 Lidane  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:29:43pm

re: #156 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I understand that anger against her, I really do— I lived in the UK right after her tenure and got an earful of how freakin’ bad she was— but I just don’t see the point of that kind of mockery. It really seems directed at the person and not the policies she held.

I think it’s directed at both. Without her, would those policies have existed? She’s the one who pushed for them.

Yeah, it’s not the nicest thing to do. I don’t think I’d pull out anything like that if Dubya died tomorrow, but I certainly wouldn’t forget his terrible policies or the impact they had on this country.

165 darthstar  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:29:50pm

re: #159 Targetpractice

So goes the recording. And now he’s landed his ass in some serious trouble. MJ has pointed out that, based upon the recording, some or all of the research might have been done by legislative aides. If that’s the case, then McConnell’s in breach of Congressional ethics.

It’s not that I don’t like that fucker, but I really don’t like that fucker. Having him squirm on the red-hot butt-plug of public opinion is going to be quite entertaining to watch.

166 darthstar  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:31:02pm

re: #163 Mattand

There’s a breach if they did it on the clock. If it was done after work or during a break, they’re in the clear.

I would imagine that McConnell’s savvy enough to not get burned on something like that. Then again, the recording was just made public.

His calling for an FBI investigation isn’t all that smart, either…especially if the investigation leads to evidence that paid staffers did illegal opposition research by digging into Judd’s medical history.

167 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:32:03pm

re: #137 Vicious Babushka

Auto-play is banned in Canada?

Videos from Comedy Central won’t play here. I have to go to the Comedy Network to see them.

Comedy Central

168 Stanley Sea  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:32:14pm

re: #160 Stanley Sea

Sully Dish had an excellent post the other day about the music she inspired. A LOT.

dish.andrewsullivan.com

169 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:33:22pm

re: #166 darthstar

His calling for an FBI investigation isn’t all that smart, either…especially if the investigation leads to evidence that paid staffers did illegal opposition research by digging into Judd’s medical history.

Oh, the number of things that could bite him in the ass on this is getting higher by the hour. Even if staffers weren’t doing research on the clock and did it all above board, the only way McConnell comes out of this on top is if he can prove that there was an illegal bug in the room. If it comes out that somebody with consent to be there was doing the recording, as some have alleged based upon the quality of the recording, then there’s no crime here.

170 Varek Raith  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:33:29pm
171 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:35:36pm

re: #164 Lidane

I think it’s directed at both. Without her, would those policies have existed? She’s the one who pushed for them.

She didn’t do it on her own. I think, in a way, this sort of behavior kind of pretends that she does, or that her death really means anything. She lived long enough to see absolutely asinine austerity, which she would have loved, be put in place in Britain. She didn’t do that. She’s one of many extremely benighted people who have helped to usher in this Ayn Rand era in economics. She deserves shitloads of criticism for that. But by fetishizing her death, people kind of overexaggerate her importance.

172 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:36:23pm

re: #169 Targetpractice

Oh, the number of things that could bite him in the ass on this is getting higher by the hour. Even if staffers weren’t doing research on the clock and did it all above board, the only way McConnell comes out of this on top is if he can prove that there was an illegal bug in the room. If it comes out that somebody with consent to be there was doing the recording, as some have alleged based upon the quality of the recording, then there’s no crime here.

Oh, I don’t think finding that it was a leak bites McConnell, as long as he can get the name of the leaker. Then it turns into a ‘traitor’ narrative with a lot of speculation about Democratic payoffs.

173 Varek Raith  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:39:39pm

re: #172 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Oh, I don’t think finding that it was a leak bites McConnell, as long as he can get the name of the leaker. Then it turns into a ‘traitor’ narrative with a lot of speculation about Democratic payoffs.

Image: Popcorn-02-Stephen-Colbert.gif

174 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:39:47pm

re: #167 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Videos from Comedy Central won’t play here. I have to go to the Comedy Network to see them.

Comedy Central

When I visited Russia 6 years ago, I had to go to The Pirate Bay to download episodes of South Park. :)

175 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:39:58pm

re: #139 sattv4u2

re: #137 Vicious Babushka

No

They just don’t have the technology for it yet

Hell, they’re still working on a better way to cut holes in the ice rather than setting the lake on fire to ice fish!!
//

We usually just use sharp tongued Americans as hammers to pound the ice into submission.

176 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:40:43pm

re: #172 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Oh, I don’t think finding that it was a leak bites McConnell, as long as he can get the name of the leaker. Then it turns into a ‘traitor’ narrative with a lot of speculation about Democratic payoffs.

Thing is, that only helps him (somewhat) with the base. He needs to find a bug so that he can portray himself as the victim of a criminal conspiracy and push for the FBI to bring charges against MJ and others. Needs to succeed where the Romney campaign failed of turning the leak itself into a crime.

177 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:41:52pm

re: #105 ProBosniaLiberal

My experience with Exchange Students from China was that they were rude and arrogant. In one case, I had a person who was something of a Social Darwinist in regards to the Tibetans and the Uyghurs.

The ones from Saudi, (with the exception of the MSA President person), where much nicer.

You sound just like a former co-worker of mine who hated Canadians due to having one bad experience with a person from Toronto.

178 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:42:43pm

re: #174 Vicious Babushka

When I visited Russia 6 years ago, I had to go to The Pirate Bay to download episodes of South Park. :)

We all have to make a trip to The Pirate Bay on occasion, and then live with the embarrassment.

My daughter lives there.

179 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:43:23pm

re: #176 Targetpractice

Thing is, that only helps him (somewhat) with the base. He needs to find a bug so that he can portray himself as the victim of a criminal conspiracy and push for the FBI to bring charges against MJ and others. Needs to succeed where the Romney campaign failed of turning the leak itself into a crime.

Oh yeah, I think it’s a very remote possibility that this was a ‘bug’. It’s not that easy to bug a room. Sound waves have to hit the recording instrument. They can be small these days, but you also have to get it in place, retrieve it. The person doing it had to get access to the room at some point.

It is much, much simpler to assume that it was someone present at the meeting. And legal.

180 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:43:46pm

re: #177 Feline Fearless Leader

You sound just like a former co-worker of mine who hated Canadians due to having one bad experience with a person from Toronto.

We are all the same, nasty puck spitting poutine gobblers.

181 Varek Raith  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:44:28pm

re: #174 Vicious Babushka

When I visited Russia 6 years ago, I had to go to The Pirate Bay to download episodes of South Park. :)

re: #178 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

We all have to make a trip to The Pirate Bay on occasion, and then live with the embarrassment.

My daughter lives there.

cristgaming.com

182 Varek Raith  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:45:01pm

re: #180 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

We are all the same, nasty puck spitting poutine gobblers.

Was that even English???

183 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:45:09pm

re: #180 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

We are all the same, nasty puck spitting poutine gobblers.

184 engineer cat  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:45:24pm

re: #177 Feline Fearless Leader

You sound just like a former co-worker of mine who hated Canadians due to having one bad experience with a person from Toronto.

how could you have any bad experience w somebody from toronto besides excessive mildness?

185 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:45:39pm

re: #179 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Oh yeah, I think it’s a very remote possibility that this was a ‘bug’. It’s not that easy to bug a room. Sound waves have to hit the recording instrument. They can be small these days, but you also have to get it in place, retrieve it. The person doing it had to get access to the room at some point.

It is much, much simpler to assume that it was someone present at the meeting. And legal.

Hell, even O’Keefe thinks that it sounds like the recorder was being manipulated, which would require a living person to be aware of the recording going on and thus makes it perfectly legal.

186 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:45:49pm

re: #177 Feline Fearless Leader

You sound just like a former co-worker of mine who hated Canadians due to having one bad experience with a person from Toronto.

BTW, even Canucks hate people from T’ronna, AKA The Centre of the Universe.

187 BongCrodny  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:46:22pm

re: #179 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Oh yeah, I think it’s a very remote possibility that this was a ‘bug’. It’s not that easy to bug a room. Sound waves have to hit the recording instrument. They can be small these days, but you also have to get it in place, retrieve it. The person doing it had to get access to the room at some point.

It is much, much simpler to assume that it was someone present at the meeting. And legal.

Pretty easy to have a hand-held recording device maybe in a shirt or suitcoat pocket. The idea of somebody bugging McConnell’s offices seems a *bit* of a stretch when the alternative is so easy.

188 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:46:41pm

re: #182 Varek Raith

Was that even English???

In some circles.

189 Lidane  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:47:11pm

re: #179 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

It is much, much simpler to assume that it was someone present at the meeting. And legal.

Yeah, but Senator Turtle’s base are the same people who think that Obama is a Time Lord and somehow faked newspaper announcements of his birth in Hawaii. And that he’s got dozens of Social Security numbers.

They will gladly believe it was a bug put there by a librul plant before they buy into the idea that someone at that meeting hated McConnell enough to sell him out.

190 BeenHereAwhile  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:48:14pm

re: #47 ProBosniaLiberal

Am I the only one that thinks the embargo against Cuba is truly silly.

Barring fruitcakes like that choad Ileana Ros-Lehtinen

Why hasn’t the US normalized relations with Cuba, like Viet Nam, and China?

It’s a combination of residual anti-Castro hatred, left over from the initial Cuban refugees in the 1960s, and carried on by Cuban-America political operatives like the Diaz-Balart brothers (served as US representatives, whose aunt, Mirta Diaz-Balart, was Fidel Castro’s first wife), US Rep Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Albert Cardenas who ran this year’s CPAC, and Senator Marco Rubio.

When that cast of characters is combined with US sugar producers like the US Fanjul Corp, US Sugar, et al., who don’t want Cuban sugar production competing with their subsidized US sugar market, makes for a well moneyed and powerful political force.

And lastly, if relations were normalized with Cuba, the fear in the Cuban-America community is that Cubans would lose their gold standard of immigration; “wet foot, dry foot.” (If you leave Cuban and land on US soil, you are granted a path to residency) Loss of wet foot, dry foot, would mean that subsequent Cuban immigrants to the US would have to go thru the arduous and chancy immigration process like every other foreign national.

In the mean time the US Coast Guard has been protecting our shores by sinking threatening vehicle-craft like a 1952 Chevy truck, and an early 1960 Buick, which were attempting to land additional Cuban immigrants on US soil. Those unlucky wet-foots were sent back to Cuba.

191 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:48:21pm

re: #187 BongCrodny

Yeah. And Mother Jones as saying as much— that the source they got it from didn’t bug the room. So the alternative is that he or she was there. It’s possible Mother Jones is just saying “We’ll take your word for it” but it would probably be relatively easy to confirm who was or wasn’t at that meeting.

192 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:48:58pm

re: #180 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

We are all the same, nasty puck spitting poutine gobblers.

Having lived for nine years within 10 miles of a border crossing I know better.

193 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:54:05pm

re: #192 Feline Fearless Leader

Having lived for nine years within 10 miles of a border crossing I know better.

Food must be cheaper in the U.S. because I see Ontario license plates in the Allen Park Meijer parking lot all the time.

194 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 4:58:16pm

re: #193 Vicious Babushka

Food must be cheaper in the U.S. because I see Ontario license plates in the Allen Park Meijer parking lot all the time.

Most things are cheaper there.
For some reason, our dollar hitting parity with yours didn’t appreciably affect prices of imports.

195 Lidane  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 5:03:06pm
196 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 5:03:17pm

McConnell and the NRSC also seems to think that the FBI investigators will take their word that nobody on his staff could possibly be a leaker, meaning it could only have been a bug. Sorry, it doesn’t work like that. Everybody confirmed to have been there at that meeting is going to be interviewed, and reminded before the interviews start that it’s a felony to lie to a federal investigator.

I can’t imagine that Mitch would be so stupid as to have his own staff lie to the FBI, then get outed by MJ as having done so.

197 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 5:06:07pm

re: #195 Lidane

And it’ll get appealed, another jury or even just a federal judge will rule in favor of Exxon and get the penalty cut down to a fraction of that amount, and we’ll be told that’s “justice.”

198 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 5:08:07pm

re: #193 Vicious Babushka

Food must be cheaper in the U.S. because I see Ontario license plates in the Allen Park Meijer parking lot all the time.

Lots of them in the shopping center in the town I lived in all the time. Buying clothing and a lot of other goods.

The Brazilians who come up here from corporate HQ go back loaded with electronics and clothes as well. :)

199 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 5:09:21pm

Seems to me that McConnell’s in a pickle. I think the person recording had to have come from one of the attendees of the session. I just don’t think MJ would be careless enough to accept an illegal recording. Especially after the fact that O’Keefe had to pay up a good amount to that ACORN employee. But also by making a big deal of this and getting the FBI involved, what was said on the tape is going to inevitably get talked about and the mocking of Ashley Judd is something I really don’t see going over that well. I don’t think it will be enough to make her defeat him but I get the impression that him and his campaign feel a little nervous about her candidacy.

200 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 5:13:32pm

re: #199 HappyWarrior

Seems to me that McConnell’s in a pickle. I think the person recording had to have come from one of the attendees of the session. I just don’t think MJ would be careless enough to accept an illegal recording. Especially after the fact that O’Keefe had to pay up a good amount to that ACORN employee. But also by making a big deal of this and getting the FBI involved, what he said on the tape is going to inevitably get talked about and the mocking of Ashley Judd is something I really don’t see going over that well. I don’t think it will be enough to make her defeat him but I get the impression that him and his campaign feel a little nervous about her candidacy.

She’s already bowed out, last I checked. His whole bit now is about saving his ass in the face of a very likely party primary. Making himself a “victim” of a grand liberal plot would make him somewhat sympathetic to the party base, but that’s unlikely. Really, the best McConnell could have done is keep his yap shut or even trying to convince folks that the contents of the meeting had been considered but rejected as unconscionable. Instead, he’s just made himself look like a whiny brat, as well as a bald-faced liar if it’s found out that the leak came from within his own office.

201 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 5:18:12pm

re: #200 Targetpractice

She’s already bowed out, last I checked. His whole bit now is about saving his ass in the face of a very likely party primary. Making himself a “victim” of a grand liberal plot would make him somewhat sympathetic to the party base, but that’s unlikely. Really, the best McConnell could have done is keep his yap shut or even trying to convince folks that the contents of the meeting had been considered but rejected as unconscionable. Instead, he’s just made himself look like a whiny brat, as well as a bald-faced liar if it’s found out that the leak came from within his own office.

So he’s stepped in shit basically. Best thing he could have done yeah as you said was either shut up or try to claim that those ideas were rejected. Don’t know it would work but it would be a lot better than the embarrassment I think he’s inevitably setting himself up for.

202 engineer cat  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 5:23:28pm

re: #200 Targetpractice

She’s already bowed out, last I checked. His whole bit now is about saving his ass in the face of a very likely party primary. Making himself a “victim” of a grand liberal plot would make him somewhat sympathetic to the party base, but that’s unlikely. Really, the best McConnell could have done is keep his yap shut or even trying to convince folks that the contents of the meeting had been considered but rejected as unconscionable. Instead, he’s just made himself look like a whiny brat, as well as a bald-faced liar if it’s found out that the leak came from within his own office.

but he’s a republican so iokiyar and his base will fail to notice anything happened

203 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 5:26:05pm

re: #202 engineer cat

but he’s a republican so iokiyar and his base will fail to notice anything happened

From the looks of the usual suspects, they seem to be buying into the “bug” accusations.

204 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 5:28:58pm

re: #168 Stanley Sea

dish.andrewsullivan.com

My thought on Maggie and Spitting Image.

205 prairiefire  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 5:29:41pm

My 10 year old is helping my 15 year old with Black Ops 2. She is not being a complete bitch at the moment, all is well.

206 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 5:31:39pm

re: #186 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

BTW, even Canucks hate people from T’ronna, AKA The Centre of the Universe.

It’s one of the few things that hold the country together.

207 AlexRogan  Tue, Apr 9, 2013 6:15:16pm

re: #198 Feline Fearless Leader

Lots of them in the shopping center in the town I lived in all the time. Buying clothing and a lot of other goods.

The Brazilians who come up here from corporate HQ go back loaded with electronics and clothes as well. :)

You work for Embraer?


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