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Obama Makes Statement on Boston Bombings:

(CNN)- President Barack Obama said he ordered the “full resources” of the federal government to respond to the Boston bombings on Monday, and that he also called for increased security around the United States as necessary.

“We still do not know who did this or why,” he said from the Brady Press Briefing Room, cautioning people against jumping to conclusions. “But make no mistake, we will get to the bottom of this, and we will find out who did this, we’ll find out why they did this.”

Any individuals or groups responsible for the “senseless” bombing, he added, will “feel the full weight of justice.”

“The American people will say a prayer for Boston tonight,” he said.

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334 comments
1 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:11:45pm

Flash no work in android 4.

2 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:12:19pm
3 Targetpractice  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:13:10pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

That would be the bimbo from CNN.

4 Lidane  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:13:38pm
5 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:14:30pm

Good statement. Direct and to the point. Especially as so little is known as to who or why.

6 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:15:04pm

Chick Todd is such an ass.

7 engineer cat  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:15:16pm

what else can you say

8 Targetpractice  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:16:24pm

Cue the whining about “He didn’t call it terrorism!!”

9 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:16:31pm

re: #5 Dr Lizardo

Good statement. Direct and to the point. Especially as so little is known as to who or why.

But he didn’t say terrorism!!

10 Lidane  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:17:26pm

re: #8 Targetpractice

Cue the whining about “He didn’t call it terrorism!!”

Already happening on Twitter.

Some days I really hate people. Then I remember I’m free to ignore those douchenozzles, so whatever.

11 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:18:14pm

LA times picks up the Suadi angle
1 person questioned in Boston Marathon explosions

A federal law enforcement officials said authorities were questioning a Saudi national who was taken to a Boston hospital with injuries. The person was not identified as a suspect.

The official also said authorities are also “desperately seeking” a Penske rental truck seen leaving the race site. They further believe the explosive devices were small bombs placed in small receptacles and that at least one was detonated in a nearby trash can.

The reaction from authorities and the Presidential address makes me think this might not be the actions of some lone nut or domestic zealot.

12 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:18:50pm

re: #9 CuriousLurker

He said Terrorism but he really meant not terrorism!!11!1!!//

13 Lidane  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:19:05pm
14 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:19:31pm

re: #9 CuriousLurker

Heh. Arguably, it is terrorism, at least in my definition, but if I were President, I would not say it at this stage of the incident.

15 Lidane  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:19:45pm
16 Amory Blaine  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:20:32pm

It could be hundreds dead. 2 bombs going off at an event that has like what, 100’s of thousands of people.

17 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:21:01pm

By not calling it terrorism Obama basically called the bombing a welcome hand job.

18 wrenchwench  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:21:48pm

Bostonghazi!!!

19 blueraven  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:22:11pm

re: #11 Killgore Trout

LA times picks up the Suadi angle
1 person questioned in Boston Marathon explosions

The reaction from authorities and the Presidential address makes me think this might not be the actions of some lone nut or domestic zealot.

I would imagine they are questioning a lot more than one person. And why wouldn’t the President react to something this horrible?

20 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:22:36pm

fb post said a tweeter (hows that about a 4th generation source?) said that uninjured runners were turning up at Boston (Mass) General to give blood.

21 Charleston Chew  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:22:39pm

re: #16 Amory Blaine

It could be hundreds dead. 2 bombs going off at an event that has like what, 100’s of thousands of people.

How big of a crowd was it at the time? I can’t imagine attending something like that as a spectator. I would think it would mostly be supporters of runners and event staff.

22 Lidane  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:22:55pm

Erick, Son of Erick calls a truce for the day:

23 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:23:30pm

re: #22 Lidane

Erick, Son of Erick calls a truce for the day:

He get’s an up ding for that one. There are humans left on the wrong side.

24 Targetpractice  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:24:32pm

re: #22 Lidane

Erick, Son of Erick calls a truce for the day:

To which he will no doubt get a lot of flak between now and when he inevitably starts giving Obama shit again.

25 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:24:53pm

Nuke plants in Mass., NH, tighten security after Boston blasts
I can understand the over abundance of caution but this response is not something I would expect from a lone wold -type attack. It seem authorities suspect an organized and potentially dangerous professional terrorists.

26 Lidane  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:24:58pm

Patton Oswalt fucking nails it:

Boston. Fucking horrible.

I remember, when 9/11 went down, my reaction was, “Well, I’ve had it with humanity.”

But I was wrong. I don’t know what’s going to be revealed to be behind all of this mayhem. One human insect or a poisonous mass of broken sociopaths.

But here’s what I DO know. If it’s one person or a HUNDRED people, that number is not even a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the population on this planet. You watch the videos of the carnage and there are people running TOWARDS the destruction to help out. (Thanks FAKE Gallery founder and owner Paul Kozlowski for pointing this out to me). This is a giant planet and we’re lucky to live on it but there are prices and penalties incurred for the daily miracle of existence. One of them is, every once in awhile, the wiring of a tiny sliver of the species gets snarled and they’re pointed towards darkness.

But the vast majority stands against that darkness and, like white blood cells attacking a virus, they dilute and weaken and eventually wash away the evil doers and, more importantly, the damage they wreak. This is beyond religion or creed or nation. We would not be here if humanity were inherently evil. We’d have eaten ourselves alive long ago.

So when you spot violence, or bigotry, or intolerance or fear or just garden-variety misogyny, hatred or ignorance, just look it in the eye and think, “The good outnumber you, and we always will.”

27 blueraven  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:25:51pm

re: #25 Killgore Trout

Nuke plants in Mass., NH, tighten security after Boston blasts
I can understand the over abundance of caution but this response is not something I would expect from a lone wold -type attack. It seem authorities suspect an organized and potentially dangerous professional terrorists.

Unreal!

28 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:27:04pm

re: #26 Lidane

Patton Oswalt fucking nails it:

Thanks for posting that, it’s a good reminder. *sigh*

29 ProBosniaLiberal  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:27:05pm

What kind of tweets are under the Muslims tag on twitter right now? I’m scared to look.

30 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:27:58pm

re: #29 ProBosniaLiberal

What kind of tweets are under the Muslims tag on twitter right now? I’m scared to look.

I’m not a masochist, so I can’t help you with that one.

31 ProBosniaLiberal  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:28:38pm

re: #30 CuriousLurker

Neither am I.

Who wants the Hazmat suit, and wants to look?

32 wrenchwench  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:29:21pm

re: #26 Lidane

Patton Oswalt fucking nails it:

Show that to erik_t if/when he comes back.

33 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:29:58pm

re: #31 ProBosniaLiberal

Neither am I.

Who wants the Hazmat suit, and wants to look?

Why do you even want anyone to look? It’s predictable enough.

34 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:30:00pm

Clearly the Boston Police Commissioner is in on the conspiracy. #OperationWelcomeHandjob

35 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:31:10pm

Google page to help people find their friends & loved ones:

google.org

36 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:32:42pm

One of the people killed was an 8-year old child.

37 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:33:00pm

re: #26 Lidane

And here’s a comment.

Look for evidence. What does this event have in common with 911??? Yup…there were police and military drills and exercises going on during both.

First “troofer”… out of the box…

38 Lidane  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:34:08pm

re: #37 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Alex Jones has been crying about ZOMG FALSE FLAG all day.

Fuck ‘em. Until we know actual facts, these troofer idiots can get bent.

39 bws58  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:35:13pm

And CNN already saying Obama didn’t say terror
Yes it’s on Kos but the picture is what is important

40 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:35:27pm

re: #38 Lidane

Alex Jones has been crying about ZOMG FALSE FLAG all day.

Fuck ‘em. Until After we know actual facts, these troofer idiots can get bent.

41 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:35:54pm

bbl

42 BongCrodny  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:37:49pm

Kind of nice to see, although in a tragic way:

“Due to the generosity of our donors we don’t need blood at this time. Please schedule for a future donation.” — redcrossblood.org #marathon

43 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:38:15pm

Jordan Muslim extremist ‘happy’ over Boston bombing

The head of an extremist Jordanian Muslim Salafi group says he’s “happy to see the horror in America” after the explosions in Boston.

“American blood isn’t more precious than Muslim blood,” said Mohammad al-Chalabi, who was convicted in an al-Qaida-linked plot to attack U.S. and other Western diplomatic missions in Jordan in 2003.

“Let the Americans feel the pain we endured by their armies occupying Iraq and Afghanistan and killing our people there,” he said early Tuesday.

A Mideast counterterrorism official based in Jordan said the blasts “carry the hallmark of an organized terrorist group, like al-Qaida.” He did not give actual evidence.

A Jordanian official said security was beefed up around the U.S. Embassy in Amman.

44 darthstar  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:39:13pm

#Bostonhelp is the hashtag on twitter for those who are in the area and want to be able to help stranded travellers, etc.

45 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:39:32pm

FUCK YOU JIM

46 Mattand  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:40:46pm

re: #39 bws58

And CNN already saying Obama didn’t say terror
Yes it’s on Kos but the picture is what is important

A commenter there described CNN as Fox Lite. Can’t think of a more perfect description.

47 A Mom Anon  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:41:19pm

re: #45 Vicious Babushka

with a rusty pitchfork…twice.

48 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:41:39pm

re: #45 Vicious Babushka

oh great here comes Benghazi no. 2.

49 Lidane  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:42:00pm
50 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:42:58pm

FUCK YOU TOO LUKE

51 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:43:36pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

Jordan Muslim extremist ‘happy’ over Boston bombing

What even is the point of this?

52 Mattand  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:43:42pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

I wouldn’t have downdinged it, but I don’t get the point of posting this link. A Muslim extremist is happy Americans are dead. What a shocker.

53 darthstar  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:45:18pm

Because a little levity feels good right now.

facebook.com

54 William of Orange  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:47:26pm

Bit of a surprise to hear this from Laura Ingraham. (Well deserved) harsh words for GOP senators for blocking a vote on a new ATF director.

55 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:47:50pm
56 andres  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:48:41pm

re: #31 ProBosniaLiberal

OK, so I did my round with the HazMat Suit. From what I could gather, initially is as you feared, but many more people are standing up to the morons.

Now, where’s the closet to put the HazMat Suit?

57 Sionainn  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:48:42pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

One of the people killed was an 8-year old child.

Oh, fuck. I have an 8-year-old child.

58 blueraven  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:48:51pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

Jordan Muslim extremist ‘happy’ over Boston bombing

Why would the Post or you for that matter give this asshole any publicity at all. Really? an extremist is happy over carnage and gets his name in the paper. Probably all over twitter as well. Useful idiots.

59 Interesting Times  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:49:24pm

re: #54 William of Orange

You misread it. The “harsh words” came from Nick Kristof. Laura Ingraham is ridiculing him for it:

Durr hurr like a new ATF director would have stopped the explosions herp derp

60 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:49:31pm

ABC News reporting that the bombs were set off with remote detonators.

61 William of Orange  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:49:38pm

And even Michelle Malkin’s outfit Twitchy has had enough of that windbag Alex Jones. I guess they also draw a line somewhere…

62 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:49:56pm

re: #55 Vicious Babushka

Wasn’t there a big screech fest over the White house using the term “Act of terror” over the term “terrorism” before?

63 efuseakay  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:50:02pm

re: #23 FemNaziBitch

He get’s an up ding for that one. There are humans left on the wrong side.

Wait until tomorrow…

64 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:50:32pm

re: #51 Shvaughn

What even is the point of this?

uhhh, the point is about who might be responsible. Do you think security being raised at the embassy there might indicate the possibilty of international terrorism? Why would they raise security at nuclear plants and overseas embassies if they suspected some lone wolf domestic terrorist?

65 William of Orange  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:51:09pm

re: #59 Interesting Times

You misread it. The “harsh words” came from Nick Kristof. Laura Ingraham is ridiculing him for it:

Damn, do I feel a fool. Twitter lingo still has some secrets for me…

66 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:51:29pm

re: #52 Mattand

I wouldn’t have downdinged it, but I don’t get the point of posting this link. A Muslim extremist is happy Americans are dead. What a shocker.

Exactly. Water is wet, fire is hot, Muslim extremist is happy Americans are dead. Who could’ve imagined it? //

And Bryan Fischer or some other hateful preacher says victims were being punished by God in 5… 4… 3…

67 danarchy  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:51:38pm

re: #58 blueraven

Why would the Post or you for that matter give this asshole any publicity at all. Really? an extremist is happy over carnage and gets his name in the paper. Probably all over twitter as well. Useful idiots.

This just got mentions on both NBC and the local New England Cable News channel. I don’t get it either.

68 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:51:43pm

re: #54 William of Orange

Bit of a surprise to hear this from Laura Ingraham. (Well deserved) harsh words for GOP senators for blocking a vote on a new ATF director.

Um, no. She’s jumping on the people making that assertion by saying it wouldn’t have stopped the bombing. Technically true but deliberately missing the point that hamstringing the agency leadership hamstrings enforcement efforts.

69 bratwurst  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:52:12pm

re: #51 Shvaughn

What even is the point of this?

re: #52 Mattand

I wouldn’t have downdinged it, but I don’t get the point of posting this link.

To get attention for the poster.

70 William of Orange  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:52:24pm

re: #68 goddamnedfrank

Um, no. She’s jumping on the people making that assertion by saying it wouldn’t have stopped the bombing. Technically true but deliberately missing the point that hamstringing the agency leadership hamstrings enforcement efforts.

I refer to post #65 on this.

71 Interesting Times  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:53:19pm

re: #64 Killgore Trout

Why would they raise security at nuclear plants and overseas embassies if they suspected some lone wolf domestic terrorist?

Uh, because until they know for sure, it makes sense to take as many precautions as possible?

72 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:53:33pm

re: #64 Killgore Trout

uhhh, the point is about who might be responsible. Do you think security being raised at the embassy there might indicate the possibilty of international terrorism? Why would they raise security at nuclear plants and overseas embassies if they suspected some lone wolf domestic terrorist?

Yes. SOP until actual real information is known. Professionals act like that.

Now, what’s next? It’s OWS’s fault?

73 The Mountain That Blogs  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:53:33pm

re: #66 CuriousLurker

Fischer picked up on the (since denied) New York Post report that the suspect was a Saudi national, but hasn’t said anything else about Boston yet. Pretty sure he’ll blame it on “the gay agenda” before the day is out.

74 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:53:40pm

re: #64 Killgore Trout

uhhh, the point is about who might be responsible. Do you think security being raised at the embassy there might indicate the possibilty of international terrorism? Why would they raise security at nuclear plants and overseas embassies if they suspected some lone wolf domestic terrorist?

Wow, you really do believe that some unnamed “counterterrorism expert” in Jordan and a crazy anti-American jihadist are somehow tangible evidence of international terrorism?

This is exactly what you’d expect from both domestic and international terrorism, and the raised security at embassies and nuke plants is not a sign either way.

75 Charleston Chew  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:53:59pm

re: #67 danarchy

This just got mentions on both NBC and the local New England Cable News channel. I don’t get it either.

In the case of the news channels: they live in fear of dead air. Which means they’ll run with anything that kills time.

76 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:54:34pm

re: #64 Killgore Trout

uhhh, the point is about who might be responsible. Do you think security being raised at the embassy there might indicate the possibilty of international terrorism? Why would they raise security at nuclear plants and overseas embassies if they suspected some lone wolf domestic terrorist?

It’s standard to beef up security generally until the threat is understood specifically.

Some extremist jackoff celebrating in Jordan is no indicator of who might be responsible.

77 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:55:22pm

re: #75 Charleston Chew

In the case of the news channels: they live in fear of dead air. Which means they’ll run with anything that kills time.

Killgore lives in fear of the day that Dailykos and OWS do nothing particularly stupid.

78 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:55:27pm

re: #64 Killgore Trout

How does a Jordanian extremist being happy about it lend any information as to who was responsible? You don’t think a Jordanian extremist would be happy if a white supremacist did this, too?

You make no sense. Of course this could be the work of Muslim terrorists. It’s one of the first things people think of in a case like this. But the happiness or not of a fucker in Jordan obviously has fuck-all to do with this goddamn event.

You can’t even hold back your assholishness during a time like this. For fuck’s sake.

79 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:56:13pm

WTF AP

80 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:56:24pm

re: #64 Killgore Trout

uhhh, the point is about who might be responsible. Do you think security being raised at the embassy there might indicate the possibilty of international terrorism? Why would they raise security at nuclear plants and overseas embassies if they suspected some lone wolf domestic terrorist?

At this point, every category of violent nutjob is suspected. Tax day and the presence of the Sandy Hook families would certainly suggest domestic fanatics. It is also possible that the pitiful remnants of Al Qaeda managed to scrape up the wherewithal to pull this off. It could be some loony affiliation that has not yet appeared on our radar screen. Strengthening overseas security just seems prudent. There is no reason to interpret it as an indicator of definite knowledge.

81 Interesting Times  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:56:34pm

re: #76 goddamnedfrank

Some extremist jackoff celebrating in Jordan is no indicator of who might be responsible.

True. After all, other extremist jackoffs took credit for the Oslo bombings before the true culprit (Breivik) was found.

82 Mattand  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:56:51pm

re: #64 Killgore Trout

uhhh, the point is about who might be responsible. Do you think security being raised at the embassy there might indicate the possibilty of international terrorism? Why would they raise security at nuclear plants and overseas embassies if they suspected some lone wolf domestic terrorist?

Oh, bullshit. This is the polite version of what Pam Geller does.

83 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:56:53pm

Bomb Reported at Boston Marathon Finish Line — Daily Intelligencer

Update 6:48 p.m.: CBS is reporting that police have a Saudi national in custody, and CBS Boston adds that he was seen running away from the explosion. Keep in mind, though, that “running away” is perhaps the least suspicious activity one can have to an explosion.

84 darthstar  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:57:02pm

Good point being made on Al Sharpton’s show. Anybody who was at the marathon and has pictures of the crowd before or during the event needs to send in their pics. Someone has film of the assholes who did this…maybe some teenager with an iPhone or a couple taking a picture of their kid by the finish line…There will be thousands of pictures to compare.

85 dragonath  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:57:03pm

The usual suspects wouldn’t be satisfied unless the perpetrator was a leftist Nation of Islam Blank Panther Crip or something.

I’d like to think most people listening weren’t instantly outraged.

86 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:57:21pm

re: #73 The Mountain That Blogs

Well if he doesn’t, he will be reneging on his New Years Resolution/Vow to at least blame something on the Gay agenda every day this year.

87 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:57:38pm

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88 darthstar  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:57:39pm

re: #84 darthstar

Good point being made on Al Sharpton’s show. Anybody who was at the marathon and has pictures of the crowd before or during the event needs to send in their pics. Someone has film of the assholes who did this…maybe some teenager with an iPhone or a couple taking a picture of their kid by the finish line…There will be thousands of pictures to compare.

Send the pics to the authorities…not to Al, obviously.

89 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:57:42pm

re: #79 Vicious Babushka

WTF AP

Trying to incite more anti-Arab/anti-Muslim hate in the U.S.

Pure and simple. There’s no other valid explanation for highlighting what some random unconnected asshole had to say.

Meanwhile, they’ll probably completely ignore what Alex Jones and Erik Rush have said about this.

90 William of Orange  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3:59:25pm

re: #79 Vicious Babushka

WTF AP

So what’s next?

Westboro Baptist Church?

91 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:00:47pm

I’m beginning to doubt it’s an Islamist attack, but obviously we don’t have enough info yet to be certain about anything.

92 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:01:12pm

Sure to be less reported:

The Universal Muslim Association of America put out a statement clearly in anticipation that evidence would lead to some sort of radical Muslim group or that people would automatically jump to that conclusion: “UMAA sends its thoughts and prayers to the victims and families of the explosions, and hopes for a speedy investigation into the cause of the tragedy,” the group said. “UMAA strongly condemns any act of terrorism. No legitimate goal can ever be obtained by such an attack, and the holy religion of Islam explicitly forbids this behavior in any circumstance.”

93 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:01:21pm

It’s just weird that nobody has claimed credit.

94 William of Orange  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:01:55pm

re: #90 William of Orange

So what’s next?

Westboro Baptist Church?

Nevermind… they’re already crawling from under their rocks…

95 Lidane  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:02:20pm
96 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:02:22pm

re: #90 William of Orange

So what’s next?

Westboro Baptist Church?

They’re already on the job.

97 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:02:45pm

re: #94 William of Orange

Nevermind… they’re already crawling from under their rocks…

Please just ignore these attention queens.

98 Lidane  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:03:00pm

This is helpful:

99 blueraven  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:03:08pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

I’m beginning to doubt it’s an Islamist attack, but obviously we don’t have enough info yet to be certain about anything.

To me it could go 50/50 either way between Domestic or International.

100 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:04:14pm

re: #99 blueraven

re: #91 Charles Johnson

To me it could go 50/50 either way between Domestic or International.

I’m leaning towards international but it could go either way.

101 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:04:27pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

I’m beginning to doubt it’s an Islamist attack, but obviously we don’t have enough info yet to be certain about anything.

For obviously selfish reasons I hope it wasn’t radical Islamists, but it sucks equally badly no matter who did it. *sigh*

102 Mattand  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:04:31pm

re: #96 Shvaughn

They’re already on the job.

Still can’t wrap my head around the fact that Fred Phelps was once a civil rights lawyer.

103 Kragar  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:04:42pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

I’m beginning to doubt it’s an Islamist attack, but obviously we don’t have enough info yet to be certain about anything.

Local radio show here in San Diego was talking to some EOD guys about the bombs. They seemed to feel the devices were amateur at best, black powder or TNT maybe, not conventional military or improvised types of explosives.

104 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:05:24pm
105 efuseakay  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:05:48pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

I’m beginning to doubt it’s an Islamist attack, but obviously we don’t have enough info yet to be certain about anything.

I doubt it too. Timing of the bombs was off… First explosion was the big one, secondary was smaller. The Jihadists aren’t smart, but they usually don’t mess this kind of thing up.

106 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:06:54pm

I have to admit, my first thought was not a Muslim terrorist. One of the biggest reasons was because Muslim terrorists tend to use live sacrificial people in their acts. From almost the beginning they were reporting remote devices and suspicious bags.
Does not mean I think for sure it was not Muslim Terrorists just that the M.O. was a little different.

107 EPR-radar  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:07:21pm

re: #93 Vicious Babushka

It’s just weird that nobody has claimed credit.

Claiming credit for terrorist attacks is not always done. E.g., as I recall there was no claim for credit for 9/11.

108 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:08:11pm

re: #96 Shvaughn

Perhaps. But then again, go fuck yourself Margie.

109 aagcobb  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:09:00pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

I’m beginning to doubt it’s an Islamist attack, but obviously we don’t have enough info yet to be certain about anything.

You never know. Remember the guy who planted the car bomb in N.Y.?

110 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:09:17pm

re: #100 Killgore Trout

I’m leaning towards international but it could go either way.

What, not OWS?

111 engineer cat  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:09:47pm

re: #93 Vicious Babushka

It’s just weird that nobody has claimed credit.

i remember where it’s taken a day or more

also, there are sometimes false credit-takers for these infamous horrors

112 Skip Intro  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:09:59pm

re: #66 CuriousLurker

And Bryan Fischer or some other hateful preacher says victims were being punished by God in 5… 4… 3…

I think that’s Pat Robertson’s job.

113 Mattand  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:10:17pm

re: #110 Shvaughn

What, not OWS?

Trayvon Martin was his first choice.

114 ProBosniaLiberal  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:10:33pm

re: #110 Shvaughn

For some reason, he wants it to be an Islamic Extremist. Even though, if it is, Muslims in the US will go through hell.

He’s a bit twisted.

115 engineer cat  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:11:35pm

looks to me like there isn’t one bit of evidence as to who could be responsible at this point - is there any?

116 Skip Intro  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:12:43pm

re: #64 Killgore Trout

uhhh, the point is about who might be responsible. Do you think security being raised at the embassy there might indicate the possibilty of international terrorism? Why would they raise security at nuclear plants and overseas embassies if they suspected some lone wolf domestic terrorist?

I’m not sure why you get downdinged for your post, and Vicious Babushka gets updinged to posting the Tweet saying the same thing.

Tough crowd here today.

117 aagcobb  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:13:09pm

re: #115 engineer cat

looks to me like there isn’t one bit of evidence as to who could be responsible at this point - is there any?

Not really.

118 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:13:09pm

Officials now saying the bombs were small, and did not use “high-grade” explosives, by which I assume they mean something like C4. This points away from Islamic terrorists IMO.

119 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:14:13pm

re: #116 Skip Intro

I’m not sure why you get downdinged for your post, and Vicious Babuska gets updinged to posting the Tweet saying the same thing.

Tough crowd here today.

Did you miss where she said “WTF AP” and Killgore cited the Jordanian dude’s comments as some kind of evidence?

120 Kragar  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:15:07pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

Officials now saying the bombs were small, and did not use “high-grade” explosives, by which I assume they mean something like C4. This points away from Islamic terrorists IMO.

The descriptions I heard from EOD specialists looking at the footage was “amateurish.”

121 Skip Intro  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:15:56pm

re: #119 Shvaughn

Did you miss where she said “WTF AP” and Killgore cited the Jordanian dude’s comments as some kind of evidence?

I didn’t see where KT called it “evidence”.

122 Lidane  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:16:13pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

Officials now saying the bombs were small, and did not use “high-grade” explosives, by which I assume they mean something like C4. This points away from Islamic terrorists IMO.

Given that it’s April 15th, I’m leaning towards some sort of sovereign citizezn or Real American far right douchenozzle. However, I’m perfectly content to wait until we know more before I say for sure that it was.

123 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:16:26pm

re: #99 blueraven

To me it could go 50/50 either way between Domestic or International.

Given the types of bombs, the date & the location, there is no way this is any kind of international operation.

I’m confident it will turn out to be domestic far right terrorists that will be called “false flag” or “lunatics” by the Fox & the rest of the right wing media machine. He, or more likely a small number of they, will turn out to be sovereign citizen types with a side order of the Turner Diaries. They’ll be very much like the Posse Commitatus thugs we have had occasional trouble with in the past here in Wisconsin.

My speculations for the day.

124 blueraven  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:16:46pm

re: #121 Skip Intro

I didn’t see where KT called it “evidence”.

He said this

uhhh, the point is about who might be responsible. Do you think security being raised at the embassy there might indicate the possibilty of international terrorism? Why would they raise security at nuclear plants and overseas embassies if they suspected some lone wolf domestic terrorist?

125 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:17:23pm

re: #116 Skip Intro

I’m not sure why you get downdinged for your post, and Vicious Babuska gets updinged to posting the Tweet saying the same thing.

Tough crowd here today.

Are you really not sure? It’s because VB’s commentary on the tweet was “WTF, AP?” Whereas Killgore was credulously passing on the reporting as being somehow intelligent, topical and possibly illuminating who might actually be responsible.

126 Lidane  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:18:13pm
127 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:18:20pm

re: #121 Skip Intro

I didn’t see where KT called it “evidence”.

LOL, I’m just going to sit back and watch people spoon feed you the very thread you’re ostensibly “reading.”

128 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:18:50pm

re: #121 Skip Intro

I didn’t see where KT called it “evidence”.

Don’t bother. It’s pointless.

129 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:19:15pm

re: #103 Kragar

Local radio show here in San Diego was talking to some EOD guys about the bombs. They seemed to feel the devices were amateur at best, black powder or TNT maybe, not conventional military or improvised types of explosives.

No high explosives (TNT) at all. Black powder is the most likely, though ammonium nitrate with fuel oil ala OKC isn’t impossible. But given the video, I’d put money on black powder in two layers of pipe - pvc or cast iron pipe - with the ball bearings lining in between the two pipes.

130 Skip Intro  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:19:23pm

re: #124 blueraven

I was referring to his original post, which was just a long quote of a story, not his later comments on it.

I’m not big on downdinging people for simply posting news, provided it’s legit.

131 dragonath  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:20:01pm

Talk about a blast from the past. Muslims muslims muslims are bad and people like Killgore are all too happy to oblige “proving” it.

132 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:20:15pm

re: #123 William Barnett-Lewis

Given the types of bombs, the date & the location, there is no way this is any kind of international operation.

I’m not going to say “no way,” but yeah, I have thoughts. Whoever did it, the execution seems kind of amateur hour.

133 blueraven  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:20:49pm

re: #130 Skip Intro

I was referring to his original post, which was just a long quote of a story, not his later comments on it.

I’m not big on downdinging people for simply posting news, provided it’s legit.

Well I didn’t ding him for it, but you do know why he posted it, or you haven’t been paying attention.

134 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:22:00pm

re: #132 goddamnedfrank

I’m not going to say “no way,” but yeah, I have thoughts. Whoever did it, the execution seems kind of amateur hour.

Yes, that’s the only good thing about it. If they were better at it, we could have had a whole lot more people dead tonight.

135 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:22:01pm

I’m sticking with the 24-48 hour rule before trying to play a blame game. I honestly have no idea who would have done something like this. But I hope we can find out so we can bring justice to the right people and not vigilantism to whoever we feel like blaming.

136 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:23:17pm

re: #132 goddamnedfrank

I’m not going to say “no way,” but yeah, I have thoughts. Whoever did it, the execution seems kind of amateur hour.

It was, unfortunately, effective enough to cost people their lives and some pretty horrific injuries. The explosion reminded me of a blackpowder pipe bomb. Crude, but effective.

137 Skip Intro  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:25:15pm

re: #135 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All

I But I hope we can find out so we can bring justice to the right people and not vigilantism to whoever we feel like blaming.

Unless Boston is unique among American cities, I’m sure there’s video footage of damn near the entire 26 miles, either by private security cams, traffic cams, or plain old Big Brother cams, not to mention a couple of hundred thousand cell phone photos and videos. It just takes time to work through them all.

138 Joanne  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:26:53pm

re: #54 William of Orange

Bit of a surprise to hear this from Laura Ingraham. (Well deserved) harsh words for GOP senators for blocking a vote on a new ATF director.

I think you misread. Ingraham isn’t saying positive things.

139 Lidane  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:27:12pm

OUTRAGE!

From the POTUS FB page:

facebook.com

Due to the events at the Boston Marathon, we are postponing tomorrow’s National Call Day on gun violence prevention. Our thoughts and prayers are with everyone in Boston.

140 Stanley Sea  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:30:20pm

re: #82 Mattand

Oh, bullshit. This is the polite version of what Pam Geller does.

Q F T

141 teleskiguy  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:30:40pm

re: #29 ProBosniaLiberal

What kind of tweets are under the Muslims tag on twitter right now? I’m scared to look.

I did find this:

142 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:32:43pm

Classy…

143 SpaceJesus  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:33:23pm

Alex Jones says this was the FBI

144 Lidane  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:33:39pm

re: #142 NJDhockeyfan

So much blood was donated today that the Boston Red Cross had to tell people they’ve reached their limits.

145 SpaceJesus  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:33:51pm

Alex Jones is also an insufferable idiot

146 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:33:54pm

re: #121 Skip Intro

I didn’t see where KT called it “evidence”.

Post #64. Killgore says he posted it because it’s relevant to who committed the bombing.

147 krypto  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:35:15pm

All I keep hearing on CNN (not even Fox) is meaningless gibberish about why Obama didn’t use the T word.

It’s as if they don’t have enough material to talk about anything that matters, and therefore focus on that instead.

148 Kragar  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:35:46pm

re: #143 SpaceJesus

Alex Jones says this was the FBI

Alex Jones can go eat a bag of dicks

149 Lidane  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:36:38pm
150 Skip Intro  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:36:39pm

re: #146 Shvaughn

Post #64. Killgore says he posted it because it’s relevant to who committed the bombing.

Fine. My reply should have been directed to post #43, but I was too lazy to scroll back to find it.

I’ll never do it again.

151 SpaceJesus  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:36:56pm

re: #148 Kragar

I think I told him this exact thing on his facebook page a little while ago

152 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:36:58pm

re: #147 krypto

All I keep hearing on CNN (not even Fox) is meaningless gibberish about why Obama didn’t use the T word.

It’s as if they don’t have enough material to talk about anything that matters, and therefore focus on that instead.

It’s what I hate about the 24-hour news cycle and the pressure to scoop the big story.

In the absence of verifiable facts, the media spins its wheels in speculation.

153 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:37:13pm

re: #147 krypto

All I keep hearing on CNN (not even Fox) is meaningless gibberish about why Obama didn’t use the T word.

It’s as if they don’t have enough material to talk about anything that matters, and therefore focus on that instead.

Who the hell cares what words he did or didn’t use? Well, aside from nutjobs, that is.

154 Stanley Sea  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:38:13pm

re: #119 Shvaughn

Did you miss where she said “WTF AP” and Killgore cited the Jordanian dude’s comments as some kind of evidence?

Hopefully

155 kerFuFFler  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:39:44pm

re: #122 Lidane

Given that it’s April 15th, I’m leaning towards some sort of sovereign citizezn or Real American far right douchenozzle. However, I’m perfectly content to wait until we know more before I say for sure that it was.

Yeah, April 15th and “Patriots Day” kind of suggests domestic terrorism more than any international nefarious activity.

156 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:41:06pm
157 makeitstop  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:41:42pm

re: #88 darthstar

Send the pics to the authorities…not to Al, obviously.

Actually, ABC reported early this afternoon that Boston Police have already requested people send in photos and videos.

158 engineer cat  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:43:07pm

and if obama had used the word ‘terrorism’, what would have been accomplished by that?

159 Stanley Sea  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:43:17pm

re: #150 Skip Intro

Fine. My reply should have been directed at post #43, but I was too lazy to scroll back to find it.

I’ll never do it again.

Do not skip. It’s your karma.

160 Skip Intro  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:44:37pm

re: #147 krypto

All I keep hearing on CNN (not even Fox) is meaningless gibberish about why Obama didn’t use the T word.

Let’s pretend he did, and just for the sake of the argument let’s pretend that days from now the bomber turns out to be RW religious nut. I’m not saying that’s who it was, this is just for argument’s sake.

So what kind of a shitstorm would he find himself in then? How would the wingers who are attacking him now for not calling it terrorism react then?

Being President of a country that’s seems to be about to blow apart at the seams does require some diplomacy, even when it doesn’t appear to be warranted.

The assholes at Fox Lite don’t care about any of this, of course. It’s all about Buzz and Ratings, and nothing else, ever.

161 Stanley Sea  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:45:35pm

re: #158 engineer cat

and if obama had used the word ‘terrorism’, what would have been accomplished by that?

sihks being killed, or harassed.

162 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:47:09pm

re: #153 thedopefishlives

Who the hell cares what words he did or didn’t use? Well, aside from nutjobs, that is.

Words are more important than actions to some apparently.

163 celticdragon  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:48:16pm

re: #122 Lidane

Given that it’s April 15th, I’m leaning towards some sort of sovereign citizezn or Real American far right douchenozzle. However, I’m perfectly content to wait until we know more before I say for sure that it was.

Same here. The tax day/Patriot Day seems significant, but best to wait.

164 ProBosniaLiberal  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:48:27pm

Update on “suspicious person:”

7:35 PM EST: There’s now more information on the Saudi national being questioned by police. According to CBS, it turns out the man was simply running away from the blasts like everyone else when he was tackled by civilians who claimed he was “acting suspiciously.”

165 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:48:36pm

re: #162 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Words are more important than actions to some apparently.

These are the same people who say George W. Bush was the greatest President in US history. I’m already disinclined to pay any form of attention (aside from abject derision) to them.

166 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:48:42pm

re: #158 engineer cat

and if obama had used the word ‘terrorism’, what would have been accomplished by that?

It would make no difference.

167 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:49:04pm

Just like clockwork this was expected…

168 Ming  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:49:07pm

What is wrong with people? Is a president now obligated to use the “terror” word early and often, in much the same way as presidents are expected to end speeches with “God bless America”?

169 calochortus  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:49:38pm

re: #168 Ming

Yes.

170 Stanley Sea  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:50:07pm

re: #168 Ming

What is wrong with people? Is a president now obligated to use the “terror” word early and often, in much the same way as presidents are expected to end speeches with “God bless America”?

It is such a show of paranoia. Irrational paranoia. Thanks wimps.

171 Kid A  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:50:42pm

And you KNOW that he has info about who the guy was, which group he was affiliated with, etc. etc. (all the stuff that you and I won’t be told) and YET he still refuses to use the T-word - which tells you that the perpetrator has already been identified as a muslim.

From Dim’s site, surprisingly.
/

172 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:51:13pm

I saw the explosion videos and thought “domestic” also, because the bombs were too small. Foreign entities would usually want a bigger bang for their buck, no pun intended - they aim for bigger explosions/more death in return for the cost of paying for operatives in the country. I was thinking backpack/trash can bombers, which could mean anybody: suddenly religious college kids, lefty loons, righty loons, who knows.

I wondered about racial motivation too. The top finishers of marathons are usually non-white… Attacking brown people on “Patriot’s Day” on April 15th? Hmm.

173 celticdragon  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:51:25pm

re: #132 goddamnedfrank

I’m not going to say “no way,” but yeah, I have thoughts. Whoever did it, the execution seems kind of amateur hour.

Today, there were 37 people killed by a bomb in Iraq. Comparing the two incidents…yeah, Boston looks like amateur hour. If there is anything merciful about today, it is that.

174 jaunte  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:52:02pm

re: #171 Kid A

Psychic terror analysts.

175 celticdragon  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:52:40pm

re: #167 NJDhockeyfan

Just like clockwork this was expected…

I really, really want to do or say something about Westboro that would get me banned here, so I will refrain. That is all.

176 makeitstop  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:53:01pm

Some whack job on Facebook is droning on and on about how there are really 80 dead in Boston, but ‘the media’ isn’t reporting it.

Her source? A friend of hers who ‘used to own a radio station in Boston.’ Derp.

177 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:53:04pm
178 Decatur Deb  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:53:22pm

26.3 Rule.

179 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:53:49pm

Charles Johnson,

I want whoever committed this atrocity to be captured and brought to justice!

180 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:53:51pm

re: #176 makeitstop

Some whack job is droning on and on about how there are really 80 dead in Boston, but ‘the media’ isn’t reporting it.

Her source? A friend of hers who ‘used to own a radio station in Boston.’ Derp.

A friend of a friend of my sister’s mother’s boyfriend’s cat.

181 Joanne  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:54:19pm

re: #122 Lidane

Given that it’s April 15th, I’m leaning towards some sort of sovereign citizezn or Real American far right douchenozzle. However, I’m perfectly content to wait until we know more before I say for sure that it was.

That was my first thought.

182 celticdragon  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:55:51pm

Tuning out for a bit to watch post apocalyptic Defiance on scifi, before post apocalyptic Revolution comes on later.

183 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:56:00pm

I don’t know who committed this horror, so I’m not going to speculate. If the perpetrators were foreign or domestic, Muslims or non-Muslims, left wingers or right wingers, that 8-year old child and another person will still be just as dead, and the injured will still be injured. It’s beyond fucked up on more levels than I can count.

Living in an open society like ours we’re especially vulnerable to these kinds of attacks, so I’m not sure what we can do about it. Maybe dial back some of the hate speech, be it religious, political, racial or whatever. Also, we can try to be better ourselves—each and every one of us in whatever small ways in our daily lives—with a conscious effort towards making the world a little bit better, kinder. Giving up more freedoms than we already have (since 9/11) is not an option as far as I’m concerned.

I guess that’s pretty much all I have to say about it for now.

184 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:56:16pm

re: #168 Ming

What is wrong with people? Is a president now obligated to use the “terror” word early and often, in much the same way as presidents are expected to end speeches with “God bless America”?

If Prez was white, nobody would give a shit. “Terrorism” to them is Dog Whistle for Moozlims, and they want the finger pointed that way ASAP.

Idiots don’t seem to understand that technically, any attack like this on civilians is terrorism, so there’s no real point in calling it that. The real fun will come when it turns out the perp posted on Free Republic, then watch them back away from the “T” word lickety-split.

185 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:56:33pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

One of the people killed was an 8-year old child.

That’s awful. Who did this? I really want the police to find them soon and make them pay.

186 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:56:43pm

Guns don’t kill people bombs do!

I seriously hope we don’t see that argument.

187 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:57:16pm

re: #186 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Guns don’t kill people bombs do!

I seriously hope we don’t see that argument.

Oh, we will. It annoys me, but no matter how derpy the argument, someone will say it in all seriousness.

188 Kragar  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:58:23pm
189 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:58:39pm

re: #187 thedopefishlives

I seriously hope we don’t see that argument.

Oh, we will. It annoys me, but no matter how derpy the argument, someone will say it in all seriousness.

Sad validation of our status as angry, violent apes.

190 RadicalModerate  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:59:13pm

CNN just reported that the FBI is attempting to locate a yellow Penske moving van that was turned away entering the area of the Boston Marathon finish line.
I’m really starting to get a bad, bad Timothy McVeigh-style vibe off of this event.

Also, to attest to the severity of this attack, ten of the injured people from the bombings have required amputation of one or more limbs. A total of seventeen are currently in critical condition.

191 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:59:23pm

re: #184 Pawn of the Oppressor

The real fun will come when it turns out the perp posted on Free Republic, then watch them back away from the “T” word lickety-split.

Hoo-boy; if that were the case, there’d be some serious ‘splodeyheads down in Freeperville. They’d be in epic denial mode.

192 klys  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:59:25pm

re: #186 b_sharp

I seriously hope we don’t see that argument.

You clearly have been smart and haven’t tried reading the comment section of the articles on CNN.

193 calochortus  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 4:59:28pm

re: #186 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I’ve already seen some “jokes” about needing to register bombs. The wingnuts are also terrified that “for the first time” (sic) it could turn out to be a right winger and then we’ll all lose all our rights as the Left uses the bombing as an excuse to squash Real American’s rights.

194 Joanne  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:00:05pm

re: #175 celticdragon

I really, really want to do or say something about Westboro that would get me banned here, so I will refrain. That is all.

What I’d like to do to them would get ms arrested.

195 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:00:37pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Not surprised that Spencer is assuming its Muslims again, just because one source suggests that one of the people involved, might, and I put the emphasize on might have been someone from Saudi Arabia.

196 Skip Intro  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:01:09pm

re: #186 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I seriously hope we don’t see that argument.

Not only will you see that, but you’ll also start to see conspiracy theories claiming that no one was killed or injured, and demands for the death certificates of the victims and the hospital records of the maimed and injured.

This country is full to capacity with people who are Just Plain Bad.

197 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:01:30pm

re: #192 klys

You clearly have been smart and haven’t tried reading the comment section of the articles on CNN.

CNN is dead to me.

Well, not dead, but definitely too stupid to exist.

198 Joanne  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:01:42pm

re: #186 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I seriously hope we don’t see that argument.

I’ve been waiting for that, too.

199 palomino  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:01:46pm

re: #116 Skip Intro

I’m not sure why you get downdinged for your post, and Vicious Babushka gets updinged to posting the Tweet saying the same thing.

Tough crowd here today.

Easy answer: he’s a disingenuous rabble rousing troll shithead; she’s not.

200 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:01:47pm

re: #193 calochortus

I’ve already seen some “jokes” about needing to register bombs. The wingnuts are also terrified that “for the first time” (sic) it could turn out to be a right winger and then we’ll all lose all our rights as the Left uses the bombing as an excuse to squash Real American’s rights.

For all their talk on this one, the wingnuts are genuinely nervous that the bomber(s) could indeed turn out to be fellow wingnuts.

201 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:01:48pm

re: #167 NJDhockeyfan

Why am I not surprised!

202 klys  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:02:10pm

re: #197 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

CNN is dead to me.

Well, not dead, but definitely too stupid to exist.

It’s like a bad habit that I just can’t quit. Online only. And then I’m frequently dumb enough to start reading the comments.

203 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:02:20pm

re: #196 Skip Intro

Not only will you see that, but you’ll also start to see conspiracy theories claiming that no one was killed or injured, and demands for the death certificates of the victims and the hospital records of the maimed and injured.

This country is full to capacity with people who are Just Plain Bad.

What is in the water?

204 Joanne  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:02:54pm

re: #190 RadicalModerate

But why would you need a truck for several small bombs? That makes no sense.

205 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:03:12pm

re: #203 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

What is in the water?

FLOURIDE!1!

206 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:04:06pm

re: #202 klys

It’s like a bad habit that I just can’t quit. Online only. And then I’m frequently dumb enough to start reading the comments.

There is a pill for that, or a spliff at least, isn’t there?

207 DisturbedEma  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:04:22pm

re: #149 Lidane

May he rest in peace

208 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:04:50pm

re: #204 Joanne

But why would you need a truck for several small bombs? That makes no sense.

Maybe the truck had an OKC-sized bomb in it, and the smaller ones were meant to herd people toward the bigger bomb.

Total speculation my part, I admit.

209 Stanley Sea  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:05:26pm

re: #176 makeitstop

Some whack job on Facebook is droning on and on about how there are really 80 dead in Boston, but ‘the media’ isn’t reporting it.

Her source? A friend of hers who ‘used to own a radio station in Boston.’ Derp.

The amount of dead will never be a secret. It just shows their paranoia. Hope they don’t have guns, bet they do.

210 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:05:29pm

re: #205 Dr Lizardo

FLOURIDE!1!

Surprising what happens when calcium is stolen from the brain to build teeth.

211 makeitstop  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:05:44pm

re: #204 Joanne

But why would you need a truck for several small bombs? That makes no sense.

Maybe the truck had a big bomb in it. Perish the thought.

I wonder if they checked it before they let it go?

212 DisturbedEma  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:06:50pm

re: #181 Joanne

I thought of tax day on the first thread, but disregarded it because it seemed too far fetched, I mean the IRS is a punchline…but maybe I am too naive…

213 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:07:03pm

I’m gonna step away form the internet, but before I go here’s something beautiful to take your minds off all the ugliness for a few seconds:

Later, lizards.

214 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:07:05pm

re: #208 Dr Lizardo

Maybe the truck had an OKC-sized bomb in it, and the smaller ones were meant to herd people toward the bigger bomb.

Total speculation my part, I admit.

Thats not unexpected. I was thinking the same thing. I hope it’s not true.

215 Ian G.  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:07:05pm

Well, I’ve rarely de-friended people on Facebook, but I just saw something from this jackass I knew in high school that suggested in the “hey, I’m just asking questions” style that the President was responsible for the bombing because he’s trying to deflect attention away from a new Orly Taitz lawsuit, or something. Goodbye, jackass. I don’t need your drivel in my feed anyway.

The worst part about him? He’s a public school teacher. Yeah, he’s too stupid to breathe, but he’s educating our children. Sigh…..

216 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:07:10pm

re: #211 makeitstop

Maybe the truck had a big bomb in it. Perish the thought.

I wonder if they checked it before they let it go?

If that’s the case it will go off while the FBI, cops, EMS and fire depts are focused elsewhere.

217 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:07:14pm

re: #202 klys

“I can’t quit you stupid, hateful, paranoid commenter’s”

218 Varek Raith  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:07:31pm

HI FBV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

219 calochortus  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:07:46pm

re: #211 makeitstop

Maybe the truck had a big bomb in it. Perish the thought.

I wonder if they checked it before they let it go?

It may or may not be true, but I read that the Penske truck has been found and it was just a delivery truck.

220 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:07:52pm

re: #210 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Surprising what happens when calcium is stolen from the brain to build teeth.

THAT’S WHY I ONLY DRINK RAINWATER OR PURE GRAIN ALCOHOL!!1!

221 Stanley Sea  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:08:00pm

re: #199 palomino

Easy answer: he’s a disingenuous rabble rousing troll shithead; she’s not.

Is he gone? Or just reloading.

222 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:08:44pm

NY Times reporting that other bombs were found, including one in Newton.

Honestly, Newton/Wellesley to me means Jews and the wealthy… Both are possible targets for any enemy, foreign or domestic. I wonder where the bombs outside of Boston were. Along the route, or elsewhere?

Finding unexploded devices is good, though. That means evidence.

223 Joanne  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:08:55pm

re: #208 Dr Lizardo

re: #211 makeitstop

Oh. Jesus.

224 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:09:06pm

re: #212 DisturbedEma

I thought of tax day on the first thread, but disregarded it because it seemed too far fetched, I mean the IRS is a punchline…but maybe I am too naive…

A guy flew a plane into an IRS building. They’re probably the #1 agency on the Evil Gubmint list.

225 makeitstop  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:09:21pm

A note on the coverage today…

I was listening to ESPN New York this afternoon, and at bout 3:30 they picked up the ABC News feed with Stephanopolous and Diane Sawyer.

Literally every witness they talked to - every one - was asked by Steph if they saw any victims, and the extent of their injuries.

Fucking ghoul.

226 DisturbedEma  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:09:41pm

re: #209 Stanley Sea

Interesting- one of the comments on the yahoo story about a new foundation for research for Avirelle, one of the children murdered at Sandy Hook stated in effect that the parents were lying because “their kid isn’t really dead” so I’m confused…are victims being “covered up” or are they being “invented” the mind boggles…such insanity

227 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:11:17pm

re: #222 Pawn of the Oppressor

NY Times reporting that other bombs were found, including one in Newton.

Honestly, Newton/Wellesley to me means Jews and the wealthy… Both are possible targets for any enemy, foreign or domestic. I wonder where the bombs outside of Boston were. Along the route, or elsewhere?

Finding unexploded devices is good, though. That means evidence.

It also means incompetent bombers, making it, IMHO, less likely to be Al-Qaeda (or similar).

228 Lidane  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:12:20pm
229 Stanley Sea  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:12:21pm

re: #225 makeitstop

A note on the coverage today…

I was listening to ESPN New York this afternoon, and at bout 3:30 they picked up the ABC News feed with Stephanopolous and Diane Sawyer.

Literally every witness they talked to - every one - was asked by Steph if they saw any victims, and the extent of their injuries.

Fucking ghoul.

Agreed. War porn.

230 Randall Gross  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:12:36pm

The video of the speech is now posted at Youtube if you want to update with it:

Youtube Video
231 DisturbedEma  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:12:50pm

re: #222 Pawn of the Oppressor

Yom HaAtzmaut begins tonight…but dammit I don’t want to go there, I can’t go there

232 calochortus  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:13:04pm

re: #229 Stanley Sea

Agreed. War porn.

But it sells…

233 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:13:06pm

re: #106 #CPAC: I Have A Short Mingle Stick.THANKS OBAMA.

I have to admit, my first thought was not a Muslim terrorist. One of the biggest reasons was because Muslim terrorists tend to use live sacrificial people in their acts. From almost the beginning they were reporting remote devices and suspicious bags.
Does not mean I think for sure it was not Muslim Terrorists just that the M.O. was a little different.

My reason for suspecting a domestic person or group is target selection. I’m reasonable certain that the reason the Twin Towers, The Pentagon and the White House were chosen was because of their international reputation. It would send a message to the whole world.

And as I found out later bin Laden hoped it would provoke the U.S. to invading a country in the Muslim world. Preferably Afghanistan where the U.S. would get its prick in the meat grinder like the Soviets, and radicalize large sections of the Muslim world. But Iraq suited him just as well.

The Boston Marathon doesn’t, so far as I know, have the same international cachet as the 9/11 targets. This event’s message is directed at America and America alone.

234 Stanley Sea  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:13:44pm

Alert! Black or “dark man” in hoodie.

Seriously, just on CNN.

235 DisturbedEma  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:13:59pm

re: #224 thedopefishlives

I am starting to reaize my error…Death and Taxes…sheesh

236 Joanne  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:14:02pm

re: #228 Lidane

Noor Tagouri @NTagouri

My 7-old-sister just asked me who is responsible for the Boston Marathon bombings. I told her I didn’t know. She replied, “North Korea?” O.o
12:00 AM - 16 Apr 13

As good a guess as any. :-)

237 Mattand  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:14:27pm

re: #193 calochortus

I’ve already seen some “jokes” about needing to register bombs. The wingnuts are also terrified that “for the first time” (sic) it could turn out to be a right winger and then we’ll all lose all our rights as the Left uses the bombing as an excuse to squash Real American’s rights.

Timothy McVeigh was so far right he makes Limbaugh look like a hippie. Yet, somehow, that era’s proto-Tea Bagger, the militia man, could still buy hollow point bullets.

I have no idea what the wingnuts should be terrified of. They always get what they want when it comes to weapons.

238 DisturbedEma  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:15:15pm

re: #232 calochortus

to people who don’t even claim to hold their noses in order to see it…

239 calochortus  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:15:18pm

re: #236 Joanne

As good a guess as any. :-)

Not necessarily-things may be de-escalating with N. Korea. That’s more like a 6 year old’s guess… ;)

240 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:16:38pm

re: #237 Mattand

Timothy McVeigh was so far right he makes Limbaugh look like a hippie. Yet, somehow, that era’s proto-Tea Bagger, the militia man, could still buy hollow point bullets.

I have no idea what the wingnuts should be terrified of. They always get what they want when it comes to weapons.

They’re afraid they’ll be even further marginalized and viewed as insane lunatics - more than they already are.

They’re probably also afraid that any political clout or cache they may have remaining will disappear like a fart in the wind.

241 danarchy  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:18:33pm

re: #233 Romantic Heretic

The Boston Marathon doesn’t, so far as I know, have the same international cachet as the 9/11 targets. This event’s message is directed at America and America alone.

There are 27000 people who run the Boston marathon from all over the world plus 500,000 spectators. It is definitely the type of high profile event anyone trying to send a message might want to target.

242 austin_blue  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:18:36pm

re: #122 Lidane

Given that it’s April 15th, I’m leaning towards some sort of sovereign citizezn or Real American far right douchenozzle. However, I’m perfectly content to wait until we know more before I say for sure that it was.

My second thought, actually, but let’s hold our powder, shall we?

First thought? Random crazy 5-minute tabloid seeker.

243 Joanne  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:18:43pm

re: #239 calochortus

Not necessarily-things may be de-escalating with N. Korea. That’s more like a 6 year old’s guess… ;)

That’s what I meant. A news-aware kiddo. That’s actually pretty cool. I was oblivious at that age.

244 DisturbedEma  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:19:14pm

re: #237 Mattand

I said it on the other thread- my stomach ACHES to think about the spin if this turns out to be an attempt to “water” the so called liberty tree with blood…of course not their own…funny, the pomp and circumstance would lead a less critical person to believe that the people who dress in costume and schlep signs about sacrifice intend to sacrifice THEMSELVES…maybe not

245 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:19:38pm

re: #241 danarchy

There are 27000 people who run the Boston marathon from all over the world plus 500,000 spectators. It is definitely the type of high profile event anyone trying to send a message might want to target.

To put it another way, it’s an event of unity, bravery, freedom, and strength. All those assholes who want to force others to their will would see it as an opportunity.

246 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:21:09pm

re: #245 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

And, before I go off to try to calm myself: They will fail. This bombing will not break the spirit of Boston, of the US, of any other country involved. People ran towards the bombs to help. You will never stop that, asshole terrorist fuckers.

You have probably broken the spirit of many families, of the individuals. That is all you will ever be able to do. You will never be able to truly succeed in your ‘terror’.

That’s the candle I can hold onto. They will always fail.

247 calochortus  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:21:12pm

re: #243 Joanne

That’s what I meant. A news-aware kiddo. That’s actually pretty cool. I was oblivious at that age.

It is cool, unless she’s actually worried about it rather than informed. And yeah, I was oblivious at that age too.

248 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:22:11pm

re: #38 Lidane

Alex Jones has been crying about ZOMG FALSE FLAG all day.

Fuck ‘em. Until we know actual facts, these troofer idiots can get bent.

Not a surprise. To Alex Jones all IED attacks in CONUS are ‘false flag attacks’. If he ever accepted that a bomb going off really was just some fanatical asshole I’d faint in stunned surprise.

249 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:23:02pm

re: #246 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I told my wife this: The last time some people attacked Bostonians, we got the American Revolutionary War. If these idiots were looking for a target to be cowed, they picked the completely wrong city.

250 Mattand  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:23:13pm

re: #244 DisturbedEma

I said it on the other thread- my stomach ACHES to think about the spin if this turns out to be an attempt to “water” the so called liberty tree with blood…of course not their own…funny, the pomp and circumstance would lead a less critical person to believe that the people who dress in costume and schlep signs about sacrifice intend to sacrifice THEMSELVES…maybe not

I’m trying hard to stick to the 48 hour rule, but as I wrote at LGF a few weeks back: you can’t whipping people up into a blood thirsty frenzy about their freedom being stolen, and not expect some kind of response.

251 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:23:24pm

re: #246 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

All I can say is, I feel so much better knowing there are people like you (and everyone else on this blog) in this world.

252 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:23:44pm

re: #246 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

And, before I go off to try to calm myself: They will fail. This bombing will not break the spirit of Boston, of the US, of any other country involved. People ran towards the bombs to help. You will never stop that, asshole terrorist fuckers.

You have probably broken the spirit of many families, of the individuals. That is all you will ever be able to do. You will never be able to truly succeed in your ‘terror’.

That’s the candle I can hold onto. They will always fail.

Indeed. Whoever it was would have to hit us one Hell of a lot harder than this to get himself anything other than being squashed flat.

253 engineer cat  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:24:30pm

re: #242 austin_blue

My second thought, actually, but let’s hold our powder, shall we?

First thought? Random crazy 5-minute tabloid seeker.

could very well be a psychotic like david berkowitz, who was instructed to murder by a demon infesting a neighbor’s dog

254 DisturbedEma  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:25:10pm

re: #250 Mattand

Exactly- I understand your point

255 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:25:12pm

re: #164 ProBosniaLiberal

Update on “suspicious person:”

If the bystanders had gunz they wouldn’t have had to tackle him. They might even have shot him before he set the bombs off!

256 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:26:15pm

re: #250 Mattand

I’m trying hard to stick to the 48 hour rule, but as I wrote at LGF a few weeks back: you can’t whipping people up into a blood thirsty frenzy about their freedom being stolen, and not expect some kind of response.

True, but in this case we really do need to withhold speculation. We just don’t know enough yet to draw any conclusions about who did this and how they are to be smashed for having done so.

257 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:26:23pm

re: #253 engineer cat

could very well be a psychotic like david berkowitz, who was instructed to murder by a demon infesting a neighbor’s dog

A bona fide “mad bomber”. They do happen from time to time.

258 Ojoe  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:28:26pm

re: #246 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

This.

259 Mattand  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:29:08pm

re: #256 Dark_Falcon

True, but in this case we really do need to withhold speculation. We just don’t know enough yet to draw any conclusions about who did this and how they are to be smashed for having done so.

Yeah, I know. The whole thing is friggin’ depressing.

260 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:29:22pm

Jim Hoft, Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, etc. - all behaving like complete pigs. The right is going to be absolutely despicable for the next couple of days.

261 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:29:30pm

re: #255 Romantic Heretic

Unwise to shoot that sort of character, though: He might be carrying a bomb with a dead-man’s switch. Moreover, Dead Men Tell No Tales. Far better to take a terror bomber alive, so he can be interrogated.

262 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:29:56pm

re: #260 Charles Johnson

Jim Hoft, Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, etc. - all behaving like complete pigs. The right is going to be absolutely despicable for the next couple of days.

I will laugh my head off if the culprit turns out to be a right-wing fanatic and has all three of those on his Favorites bar.

263 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:30:10pm

re: #260 Charles Johnson

Jim Hoft, Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, etc. - all behaving like complete pigs. The right is going to be absolutely despicable for the next couple of days.

Let me guess: They’re rushing to judgement and blaming Islam.

264 Skip Intro  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:30:51pm

‘Our Enemies Continue To Plot Against Us,’ House Homeland Security Committee Chair Says

U.S. House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Michael McCaul (R-Texas) said in a statement: “In my judgment this has all the hallmarks of an act of terrorism, but we do not know for sure who did it. I am in touch with local authorities in Boston as well as federal authorities who have launched an investigation into this malicious attack and I am certain that whoever is responsible will be held accountable. I would urge the American people to remain calm but vigilant. Today’s events are a stark reminder that our enemies continue to plot against us.”

265 Targetpractice  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:31:07pm

re: #263 Dark_Falcon

Let me guess: They’re rushing to judgement and blaming Islam.

New York Post says “Saudi” and they start salivating.

266 jaunte  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:32:01pm

Bill O’Reilly just said it wouldn’t be appropriate to talk about politics yet, before jumping right into talking about all the pressure that’s on Obama now to solve the Boston bombing “after that fiasco in Libya.”

267 Stanley Sea  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:32:27pm

re: #260 Charles Johnson

Jim Hoft, Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, etc. - all behaving like complete pigs. The right is going to be absolutely despicable for the next couple of days.

Death porn. Feeds their pockets and the want, urge, craving to see bad things. Oh, and then group blame.

They need to sit in a room with someone who lost, but doesn’t hate. No money in that.

268 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:33:18pm

Fox News (Fox 25) is still flogging the ‘suspect’ angle.

269 Stanley Sea  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:33:38pm

re: #265 Targetpractice

New York Post says “Saudi” and they start salivating.

And 12 dead. Disqualified until further notice.

270 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:33:43pm

re: #264 Skip Intro

‘Our Enemies Continue To Plot Against Us,’ House Homeland Security Committee Chair Says

That is what a proper statement about today’s attack should look like. It does not rush to blame people, but makes clear that we’ll find the bastard who did this. Unlike Pam Geller, Congressman McCaul stayed sane and smart. Not all on the right are going to be assholes about this.

272 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:35:14pm

re: #260 Charles Johnson

Jim Hoft, Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, etc. - all behaving like complete pigs. The right is going to be absolutely despicable for the next couple of days.

If the bomber turns out to be one of their fellow-travelers, or just someone on the extreme right in general, they’re going to be even more despicable with their frantic denials and screaming “coverup!”

273 Skip Intro  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:35:19pm

re: #271 Charles Johnson

Crazy… Obama Won’t Call Boston Marathon Bomb Blasts a Terrorist Attack (Video) | the Gateway Pundit

Yeah, but he doesn’t call Jim the dumbest man on the internet, either, because he doesn’t have to.

274 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:36:28pm

re: #271 Charles Johnson

Crazy… Obama Won’t Call Boston Marathon Bomb Blasts a Terrorist Attack (Video) | the Gateway Pundit

It must be said, CNN mounted the same headline, minus the ‘crazy’. That’s not to say mounting such a headline is wise, of course, I’m just saying who’s doing it.

275 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:36:38pm
276 Targetpractice  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:36:52pm

re: #271 Charles Johnson

Crazy… Obama Won’t Call Boston Marathon Bomb Blasts a Terrorist Attack (Video) | the Gateway Pundit

Like Benghazi, I utterly fail to understand the “scandal” inherent in not jumping up to scream “TERRA!”

277 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:36:57pm

re: #271 Charles Johnson

Crazy… Obama Won’t Call Boston Marathon Bomb Blasts a Terrorist Attack (Video) | the Gateway Pundit

He just keeps getting more and more stupid.

278 austin_blue  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:38:29pm

re: #262 thedopefishlives

I will laugh my head off if the culprit turns out to be a right-wing fanatic and has all three of those on his Favorites bar.

I understand the feeling, but there will be no laughing in South Austin. People got blown to pieces, today.

All of the injuries I have seen were from blast/overpressure. No nails, or nuts and bolts. Best guess? Dynamite and cell phone cores with a simple capacitor-actuated detonator. Kid stuff (unfortunately) in this internet world, if you can get the materials.

279 Targetpractice  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:38:30pm

re: #275 Charles Johnson

I’m beginning to doubt that this was all the act of one lone nut.

280 Stanley Sea  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:38:31pm

*deleted* the Iraqi citizen’s comisseration.

281 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:39:13pm

re: #278 austin_blue

I understand the feeling, but there will be no laughing in South Austin. People got blown to pieces, today.

All of the injuries I have seen were from blast/overpressure. No nails, or nuts and bolts. Best guess? Dynamite and cell phone cores with a simple capacitor-actuated detonator. Kid stuff (unfortunately) in this internet world, if you can get the materials.

Laughing in a metaphorical sense. I certainly won’t be laughing literally at anything until the perpetrators are strapped to Ol’ Sparky.

282 SpaceJesus  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:39:45pm

re: #266 jaunte

are you fucking kidding me

283 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:40:12pm

re: #276 Targetpractice

Like Benghazi, I utterly fail to understand the “scandal” inherent in not jumping up to scream “TERRA!”

Why would they invoke the name of our planet in that fashion?

/straight man

284 jaunte  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:40:21pm

re: #282 SpaceJesus

As close to a direct quote as I could manage.

285 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:41:26pm

re: #279 Targetpractice

I’m beginning to doubt that this was all the act of one lone nut.

Nuts are stronger in groups.

286 gwangung  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:41:26pm

re: #279 Targetpractice

I’m beginning to doubt that this was all the act of one lone nut.

Maybe 2 or 3? Like Oklahoma City?

287 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:41:55pm

re: #278 austin_blue

I understand the feeling, but there will be no laughing in South Austin. People got blown to pieces, today.

All of the injuries I have seen were from blast/overpressure. No nails, or nuts and bolts. Best guess? Dynamite and cell phone cores with a simple capacitor-actuated detonator. Kid stuff (unfortunately) in this internet world, if you can get the materials.

From CNN’s live blog:

[Update, 7:57 p.m. ET] Doctors are “pulling ball bearings out of people in the emergency room,” a terrorism expert briefed on the investigation told CNN’s Deborah Feyerick.

The same source said the blasts resulted in at least 10 lost limbs.

288 jaunte  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:42:40pm

18 USC § 2331 - Definitions: “international terrorism” and “domestic terrorism”
law.cornell.edu

289 Targetpractice  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:43:10pm

re: #286 gwangung

Maybe 2 or 3? Like Oklahoma City?

Possibly. The amount of organization necessary seems a bit too much for one guy to have handled alone.

290 Randall Gross  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:43:37pm

Salon’s done a roundup of some of the worst here:

salon.com

291 Randall Gross  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:44:13pm
Fox News contributor Erik Rush tweeted, then deleted: “Everybody do the National Security Ankle Grab! Let’s bring more Saudis in without screening them! C’mon! #bostonmarathon,” then responded to a tweet asking if he was “already blaming Muslims”: ““Yes, they’re evil. Kill them all.”

from the Salon link above

292 GeneJockey  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:44:16pm

re: #260 Charles Johnson

Jim Hoft, Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, etc. - all behaving like complete pigs. The right is going to be absolutely despicable for the next couple of days.

As opposed to how reasonable and circumspect they usually are?

293 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:45:14pm

Press conference now about to start in Boston.

294 ProBosniaLiberal  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:45:55pm

re: #291 Randall Gross

I would hope that would get him fired, but I know that Erik Ruch there will get promoted.

295 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:46:44pm

re: #294 ProBosniaLiberal

He will be invited to the next CPAC.

296 austin_blue  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:47:59pm

re: #275 Charles Johnson

Premature, I think, to report that. With all of the people fleeing the area, a lot of backpacks were left behind. I would presume that anything that alerted a nitrate dog would be destroyed by a controlled detonation rather than being opened. I would. And there are a lot of substances that can alert a nitrate dog. Like a deck of paper playing cards:

angelfire.com

297 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:49:29pm

re: #261 Dark_Falcon

Unwise to shoot that sort of character, though: He might be carrying a bomb with a dead-man’s switch. Moreover, Dead Men Tell No Tales. Far better to take a terror bomber alive, so he can be interrogated.

How about: he might be fucking innocent.

298 Targetpractice  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:49:46pm

No offense to the fellow, but listing “suspicious activity” as something to be on the lookout for after the whole business with the New York Post seems like a poor choice of words.

299 Mattand  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:52:56pm

re: #215 Ian G.

I dumped a guy who posted a cartoon accusing Obama of knowingly aiding the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Queda. I wrote a response that included the f-bomb, and he got mad at me because his kids might have seen it.

I get that cursing in front of kids is unacceptable. Know what else is unacceptable: ACCUSING THE PRESIDENT OF WORKING WITH AL QUEDA. This jackass was utterly fine with his children seeing him make treasonous comments about the President.

I kept him around long enough to see what kind of meltdown he’d have over Obama getting re-elected. I then dropped him. Good timing as well, as Benghazi happened a few weeks later. That would have been really unpleasant.

300 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:53:43pm

Three people are now dead?

301 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:56:06pm

re: #299 Mattand

I dumped a guy who posted a cartoon accusing Obama of knowingly aiding the Muslim Brotherhood and Obama. I wrote response that included the f-bomb, and he got mad at me because his kids might have seen it.

I get that cursing in front of kids is unacceptable. Know what else is unacceptable: ACCUSING THE PRESIDENT OF WORKING WITH AL QUEDA. This jackass was utterly fine with his children make treasonous comments about the President.

I kept him around long enough to see what kind of meltdown he’d have over Obama getting re-elected. I then dropped him. Good timing as well, as Benghazi happened a few weeks later. That would have been really unpleasant.

People do have strange priorities. Like curse words can do real harm, but hateful attitudes towards liberals or gays are harmless.

go figure.

302 Kragar  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:56:22pm

OH WHO THE FUCK JUST ASKED THAT BS QUESTION AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE?!?!

304 Kragar  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:56:52pm

“Is all this just an excuse to attack our civil liberties?”

Fuck you.

305 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:57:01pm

re: #302 Kragar

OH WHO THE FUCK JUST ASKED THAT BS QUESTION AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE?!?!

Which question?

re: #304 Kragar

“Is all this just an excuse to attack our civil liberties?”

Fuck you.

Oh, I see now. Yeah, for fuck’s sake.

306 freetoken  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:57:19pm

re: #305 Shvaughn

Which question?

which press conference?

307 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:57:59pm
308 bws58  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:58:06pm

BPD is having a presser, showing it live on Chris’ show

309 Joanne  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:58:29pm

re: #302 Kragar

OH WHO THE FUCK JUST ASKED THAT BS QUESTION AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE?!?!

I know! We had to rewind to see if he really asked that.

Comic relief during a tragedy.

310 Targetpractice  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:58:35pm

re: #304 Kragar

“Is all this just an excuse to attack our civil liberties?”

Fuck you.

And that was, predictably, followed up by digging for info on any “persons of interest,” so that the media beast might have some poor sap’s reputation to snack on.

311 danarchy  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:58:56pm

re: #305 Shvaughn

Which question?

It was a little muffled but I think the words false flag were used.

312 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:59:12pm

re: #304 Kragar

Is all what an excuse? The bombing?

313 Kragar  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 5:59:47pm

re: #312 #CPAC: I Have A Short Mingle Stick.THANKS OBAMA.

Is all what an excuse? The bombing?

The government response

314 Joanne  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 6:00:05pm

re: #311 danarchy

It was a little muffled but I think the words false flag were used.

It was. Hubby and I burst out laughing. Who the heck was that??

315 Kragar  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 6:00:56pm

FALSE FLAG!

Shut up douchebag!

316 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 6:01:44pm

Looks like an Alex Jones fan got into the press conference.

317 Joanne  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 6:01:57pm

False Flag guy was having a fit as the conference broke up.

What a sad person.

318 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 6:02:39pm

re: #311 danarchy

It was a little muffled but I think the words false flag were used.

You know, I’d like to grab the airedale who said that, grab a false flag, roll it up tight, drop the jerk’s pants and bend him over, then shove the false flag where the sun don’t shine.

/I would never actually do that, but sometimes I am sorely tempted.

319 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 6:02:57pm

re: #313 Kragar

I know it would never happen, but I would have loved to have seen Obama roll his eyes, then say “Oh for fuck’s sake” then bang his forehead on the podium.

320 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 6:03:04pm

re: #316 Charles Johnson

Looks like an Alex Jones fan got into the press conference.

Do we really know if it’s an Alex Jones Fan? It could be a liberal pretending to be an Alex Jones fan to make him look bad.

321 Bulworth  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 6:03:09pm

re: #304 Kragar

“Is all this just an excuse to attack our civil liberties?”

Fuck you.

Jeebus S Christo. First effin question.

322 jaunte  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 6:03:32pm

re: #317 Joanne

Claiming that people were being told to stay calm before the explosion.

323 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 6:04:27pm

Apparently someone needs to have my avatar stapled to his forehead.

324 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 6:04:34pm

re: #320 Iwouldprefernotto

Do we really know if it’s an Alex Jones Fan? It could be a liberal pretending to be an Alex Jones fan to make him look bad.

I see what you did there.

325 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 6:05:45pm

re: #320 Iwouldprefernotto

No. Alex knows it wasn’t a liberal because the FBI is actually behind E-VERY-THING.//

326 Ian G.  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 6:06:15pm

re: #299 Mattand

Yeah, I don’t mind having right-wingers in my facebook feed (I’m very close friends with a right-libertarian who dislikes Obama quite a bit) but a line was crossed when, with the blood still wet in Copley Square, he accuses the President of treason without a shred of evidence.

I considered posting something like “I weep for the parents whose children will come out dumber after spending a year in your classroom”, but I didn’t want to give him the satisfaction. After all, then I’d just be a whiny, intolerant liberal.

327 Varek Raith  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 6:07:30pm

re: #304 Kragar

“Is all this just an excuse to attack our civil liberties?”

Fuck you.

No you twit, it’s an excuse to fake the moon landings at Roswell.

328 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 6:08:58pm

re: #326 Ian G.

Yeah, I don’t mind having right-wingers in my facebook feed (I’m very close friends with a right-libertarian who dislikes Obama quite a bit) but a line was crossed when, with the blood still wet in Copley Square, he accuses the President of treason without a shred of evidence.

I considered posting something like “I weep for the parents whose children will come out dumber after spending a year in your classroom”, but I didn’t want to give him the satisfaction. After all, then I’d just be a whiny, intolerant liberal.

Sometimes I wish people like that would just shout “The president is a [n-word]!!1” and put their real ‘concerns’ out in the open.

Mood: furious at asshats.

329 Stanley Sea  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 6:09:41pm

re: #290 Randall Gross

Salon’s done a roundup of some of the worst here:

salon.com

The more I read their drivel, I think they are doing what they do just for the paycheck. They’ve sold their souls, but hey! Hamptons, and I’m famous!

330 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 6:10:35pm

re: #329 Stanley Sea

The more I read their drivel, I think they are doing what they do just for the paycheck. They’ve sold their souls, but hey! Hamptons, and I’m famous!

I hope they still get their Fox News feed in Hell, then.

331 Bulworth  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 6:12:49pm

CNN is letting Piers Morgan go on with his show. Really?

332 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 6:13:18pm

From a friend who was shopping in a suburb a few miles from the blasts:

we didn’t realize how bad things were until we got on the T. we were really only like, maybe 6 stops away from the marathon end. maybe 5-6 miles. two stops after we got ON the T, a lady got on. she’d been running the marathon and had been a mile from the end when it happened. she described hearing it and everything. you could tell she was shaken.
and then when we got to our commuter train station, there was a very heavy police presence. Like, EVERYWHERE. we were thoroughly searched before even being let in the building.
we realized how bad things were then

333 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 6:26:34pm

Pete Williams on MSNBC is reporting on Maddow’s show that authorities now believe there only ever were the two bombs, that the other suspicious packages previously reported didn’t contain any explosives.

334 austin_blue  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 6:30:33pm

re: #333 goddamnedfrank

Pete Williams on MSNBC is reporting on Maddow’s show that authorities now believe there only ever were the two bombs, that the other suspicious packages previously reported didn’t contain any explosives.

Yup. Makes sense. Lots of backpacks *blowed up!* for false positives.


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