FBI: Envelope Sent to Sen. Roger Wicker Tests Positive for Ricin Poison

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Politico reports: Letter Sent to Sen. Roger Wicker Tests Positive for Ricin.

An envelope sent to an office of Sen. Roger Wicker (R-Miss.) included a substance that has tested positive for Ricin, two sources say.

It was not immediately clear when the envelope was received or whether it was sent to his Washington, D.C., office or a field office.

UPDATE at 4/16/13 3:40:32 pm

The Boston Globe says it may have been ricin or “another poison.”

UPDATE at 4/16/13 4:14:40 pm

We should note that putting ricin poison in an envelope is probably the least effective way possible to deliver it. Ricin must be injected, ingested, or inhaled to poison someone. It’s always a threat when someone sends a poison of this nature, of course, but not remotely comparable to anthrax or some other weaponized chemical or biological agent.

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221 comments
1 celticdragon  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:32:34pm

Oh God, here we go again with bio toxins in the mail…

2 Varek Raith  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:32:58pm

Not this crap again…

3 A Mom Anon  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:33:56pm

Shit, shit, shit. What the hell is going on in this country?

4 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:34:38pm

re: #1 celticdragon

It’s actually a chemical weapon- made from castor beans.

Sending it in an envelope wouldn’t be a very effective way to deliver it, if the intent is to poison someone. It has to be ingested or injected to kill someone.

5 abolitionist  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:34:46pm
It was not immediately clear when the envelope was received or whether it was sent to his Washington, D.C., office or a field office.

If it was by USPS, a 9-digit zipcode should provide an answer [edit] regarding which office.

6 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:35:29pm

Well, obviously Muslims have to be involved, because no good white American guy would ever do something like this.

7 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:36:14pm

Was he playing a violin?

TAHT PROVEZ IT WAZ TEH JUICE!!11!!

8 Varek Raith  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:36:27pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

It’s actually a chemical weapon- made from castor beans.

Sending it in an envelope wouldn’t be a very effective way to deliver it, if the intent is to poison someone. It has to be ingested or injected to kill someone.

Tells us whoever sent it has no clue about how it actually works.

9 Single-handed sailor  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:37:46pm

It could be just castor bean dust. That would test positive.

10 Kragar  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:38:40pm

re: #8 Varek Raith

Tells us whoever sent it has no clue about how it actually works.

Psychotic and stupid, what a winning combination.

11 ProBosniaLiberal  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:38:52pm

re: #8 Varek Raith

Again, terrorists and criminals aren’t the brightest bulbs in the box.

12 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:40:54pm

Possibly not ricin after all…

13 blueraven  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:46:43pm

Ricin was what Walt used in the that poisonous cigarette in Breaking Bad.

14 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:47:44pm

re: #13 blueraven

Ricin was what Walt used in the that poisonous cigarette in Breaking Bad.

Correct.

15 blueraven  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:53:11pm

Weird that someone would mail something like ricin that would have to be ingested or inhaled. But then again, every time we have some kind or terrorist act, the loons come out.

16 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:56:15pm

Ricin was used by the Bulgarian secret police to assassinate dissident Georgi Markov - they used a modified umbrella to inject him with a small pellet loaded with ricin.

17 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:57:38pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Ricin was used by the Bulgarian secret police to assassinate dissident Georgi Markov - they used a modified umbrella to inject him with a small pellet loaded with ricin.

That’s usually the first thing that comes to mind when ricin is mentioned. Nasty shit.

18 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:59:55pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Ricin was used by the Bulgarian secret police to assassinate dissident Georgi Markov - they used a modified umbrella to inject him with a small pellet loaded with ricin.

A legendary assassination from the annals of the Cold War.

19 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:00:00pm
20 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:03:09pm
21 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:04:28pm

Notice the glove. That’s how investigators actually handle evidence.

22 jamesfirecat  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:05:30pm

Well fuck….

23 122 Year Old Obama  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:06:30pm

These past two days. Why. All of my why.

24 LWNJ  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:06:43pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Ricin was used by the Bulgarian secret police to assassinate dissident Georgi Markov - they used a modified umbrella to inject him with a small pellet loaded with ricin.

Ricin is very toxic when it’s injected. When it’s swallowed, not so much by far, and the damage is usually local and reparable. Good thing most non-pros do the research for their acts of heroism (///) from the movies.

25 Cardio (formerly JRCMYP)  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:07:44pm

I could photoshop better.

26 blueraven  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:09:01pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

That pressure cooker has visible serial numbers. Should be able to trace this thing.

27 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:14:07pm

So I am guessing there are no new leads on who did this yet?

28 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:15:18pm

This news is going to give Alex Jones a perpetual hard-on.

29 efuseakay  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:15:34pm

You’d be guessing correctly.

30 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:18:07pm

Why a pressure cooker instead of a pipe?

31 Kragar  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:19:27pm

re: #27 #CPAC: I Have A Short Mingle Stick.THANKS OBAMA.

So I am guessing there are no new leads on who did this yet?

Which can only mean the administration is covering up for Al Qaeda.
///

32 Amory Blaine  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:19:44pm

Jesus Christ Politico is a cesspool.

33 efuseakay  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:20:13pm

re: #30 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Why a pressure cooker instead of a pipe?

You can fit a lot more shrapnel/explosives into a pressure cooker. Plus, someone carrying a pressure cooker is a lot less inconspicuous than someone with a pipe.

34 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:20:18pm

Is Roger Wicker the anti-choice senator or the pro-life senator?

35 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:22:17pm

re: #26 blueraven

That pressure cooker has visible serial numbers. Should be able to trace this thing.

Doubtful. Serials on things like that are usually only useful if someone registers the product after buying. The maker may be able to say which chain of big boxes sold it but after that - this isn’t a car or a firearm - there won’t be any trail based on the serial.

36 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:22:46pm

re: #31 Kragar

Well why wouldn’t he cover up for his own people.??11!!!??//

37 Amory Blaine  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:24:06pm

Sen. Roger Wicker among 16 Republicans voting to end gun control filibuster

U.S. Sen. Roger Wicker was one of 16 Republicans on Thursday who voted to end the filibuster of a gun control bill and invite debate on the controversial measure.

Watched by tearful relatives of Newtown school massacre victims, gun control supporters in the Senate won the first showdown over how to respond to the December shootings in Connecticut, defeating an effort by conservatives to derail firearms restrictions before debate could even start.

38 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:24:49pm

re: #30 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Why a pressure cooker instead of a pipe?

That’s one of the things that still makes me lean towards an international group. Pipe bombs are a white guy thing but the pressure cooker thing is popular in India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc. I’m sure the details on how to make them are available so anybody could make one but it is a preferred method for Al Qaeda/Islamist types.

39 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:24:56pm

re: #35 William Barnett-Lewis

Doubtful. Serials on things like that are usually only useful if someone registers the product after buying. The maker may be able to say which chain of big boxes sold it but after that - this isn’t a car or a firearm - there won’t be any trail based on the serial.

They will be able to trace it to which store sold it and depending on the store they should be able to determine the date and time it was sold at the store.

40 efuseakay  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:26:28pm

I’d be checking Boston-to-Mississippi flight manifests.

41 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:26:29pm

re: #38 Killgore Trout

That’s one of the things that still makes me lean towards an international group. Pipe bombs are a white guy thing but the pressure cooker thing is popular in India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc. I’m sure the details on how to make them are available so anybody could make one but it is a preferred method for Al Qaeda/Islamist types.

I hate to even think this, but a soldier who’d previously served in Afghanistan would be highly aware of a pressure-cooker bomb.

Tim McVeigh, anyone?

42 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:26:37pm

re: #35 William Barnett-Lewis

Doubtful. Serials on things like that are usually only useful if someone registers the product after buying. The maker may be able to say which chain of big boxes sold it but after that - this isn’t a car or a firearm - there won’t be any trail based on the serial.

And that’ll then lead them to going to every store of the chain in the local area and seeking records of pressure cooker purchases, to have a list to refer to whenever they find new suspects.

43 Amory Blaine  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:27:45pm

Maybe the guy was dumb enough to buy it with a CC. Then again, it could be stolen or bought from a flea market.

44 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:28:22pm

re: #43 Amory Blaine

Or stole it from Moms kitchen.

45 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:28:51pm

By the way, has anyone won the book yet?

47 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:30:22pm

re: #45 Dr. Matt

I think Buck won Maddows book.
J/K but wouldn’t that be funny though?

48 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:31:11pm

Although a pressure cooker may need fewer mods to make a bomb, it would be harder to hide going in to most venues. I think the only way these two were planted was the abundance of backpacks and the unlikely target.

49 okonkolo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:31:25pm

weird; why this senator? He’s not nationally prominent. In my gut it points to a domestic source, but in general we’ve seen enough of these type of attacks in the past 48 hours to know it’s best to wait and see what turns up. In my gut I was sure that Oklahoma City was foreign in origin and that was sure wrong.

50 kerFuFFler  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:31:26pm

I was gonna say, “FALSE FLAG!” (sarcasm), but since he voted to end the gun control filibuster, I figure it’s a gun nut.

51 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:31:35pm

We’re still a few hundred away from 10,000,000.

52 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:32:11pm

re: #41 Dr Lizardo

I’ve seen a lot of “experts” claiming the bomb was weak, small, crude etc. but It seems to me that is was pretty well made and effective for what it was. About the size of what can be accomplished with a suicide bombing or bike bombing of a market (or whatever). I would consider it a well made bomb. However, I would think that a trained US soldier with experience and training with explosives could execute something better than this.

53 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:32:25pm

How did you test the code? Are you sure the 10,000,000th will be gold?

54 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:32:27pm

re: #47 #CPAC: I Have A Short Mingle Stick.THANKS OBAMA.

I think Buck won Maddows book.
J/K but wouldn’t that be funny though?

Hahaha. My jaw was about to drop until I read your second sentence.

55 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:33:07pm

I wonder what they give away on those other web sites? Glenn Beck’s book?

56 klys  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:33:40pm

re: #24 LWNJ

Ricin is very toxic when it’s injected. When it’s swallowed, not so much by far, and the damage is usually local and reparable. Good thing most non-pros do the research for their acts of heroism (///) from the movies.

It can be done, though.

There’s a case documented in the book Bitter Harvest by Ann Rule where a woman was convicted of attempted murder of her husband by ricin poisoning. It took them a while to figure out that that was actually going on and he came very close to dying. (She also killed two of their three children by burning down the house.)

57 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:33:47pm

re: #55 ReamWorks SKG

I wonder what they give away on those other web sites?

High-capacity magazines.

58 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:34:03pm

re: #39 Dr. Matt

They will be able to trace it to which store sold it and depending on the store they should be able to determine the date and time it was sold at the store.

not much help if it was bought at a yard sale, flea market or a Goodwill store.

59 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:34:11pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

We’re still a few hundred away from 10,000,000.

Let me know when it’s only 2, and then I’ll post.

60 AlexRogan  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:34:37pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

It’s actually a chemical weapon- made from castor beans.

Sending it in an envelope wouldn’t be a very effective way to deliver it, if the intent is to poison someone. It has to be ingested or injected to kill someone.

It’s how Georgi Markov was assassinated in 1978, of course.

Thank goodness that the perp(s), in this case, are stupid.

61 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:34:42pm

re: #57 Dr. Matt

High-capacity magazines.

Playboy, Penthouse?

62 efuseakay  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:34:48pm

re: #48 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Although a pressure cooker may need fewer mods to make a bomb, it would be harder to hide going in to most venues. I think the only way these two were planted was the abundance of backpacks and the unlikely target.

Not at an outdoor event like this. All they had to do was just drop a backpack/messenger bag etc., stand by it for a minute, and when people are distracted, just walk away.

63 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:35:10pm

re: #61 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Playboy, Penthouse?

GMTA

64 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:35:50pm

re: #63 Targetpractice

GMTA

No, we’re just equally warped.

65 Amory Blaine  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:35:51pm

Mmm. Rachel’s book sure would look nice on my book shelf.

66 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:36:39pm

re: #65 Amory Blaine

Mmm. Rachel’s book sure would look nice on my book shelf.

Don’t you be putting your fingers on my Rachel.

67 Gus  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:36:46pm

2006 Mumbai train bombings

The 11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings were a series of seven bomb blasts that took place over a period of 11 minutes on the Suburban Railway in Mumbai, the capital of the Indian state of Maharashtra and the nation’s financial capital. The bombs were set off in pressure cookers on trains plying the Western line of the Suburban Railway network. 209 people were killed and over 700 were injured. According to Mumbai Police, the bombings were carried out by Lashkar-e-Taiba and Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI)…

68 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:36:56pm

re: #64 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

No, we’re just equally warped.

How can that be? I’m not Canadian.

//

69 BongCrodny  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:40:34pm

re: #59 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Let me know when it’s only 2, and then I’ll post.

If your alarm clock is only for two away, it better be something like “booger” or you’ll be 10,000,001.

70 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:40:35pm

re: #41 Dr Lizardo

I hate to even think this, but a soldier who’d previously served in Afghanistan would be highly aware of a pressure-cooker bomb.

Tim McVeigh, anyone?

The Army is where Kevin Harpham, the guy who planted the Spokane MKL Day device, learned how to make bombs.

71 kerFuFFler  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:41:06pm

I guess we can count on a lot of short, inane comments for the next few posts… :P

72 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:41:32pm

While we’re talking about pressure cookers, I bought this Hawkins a couple of years ago to replace the Presto that I had for like 30 years.

It is totally awesome and so easy to clean, unlike the Presto which I had to soak overnight.

I use it to make beef stew, pot roast, and meatballs in tomato sauce.

OK commercial over, we now return to your regularly scheduled thread.

73 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:42:02pm

re: #56 klys

Good book.

74 BongCrodny  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:43:00pm

re: #71 kerFuFFler

I guess we can count on a lot of short, inane comments for the next few posts… :P

I like to think I’ve helped.

75 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:43:34pm
76 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:43:57pm

re: #71 kerFuFFler

I guess we can count on a lot of short, inane comments for the next few posts… :P

Why change now?

77 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:44:21pm

re: #71 kerFuFFler

Yep.

78 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:45:48pm

re: #70 goddamnedfrank

The Army is where Kevin Harpham, the guy who planted the Spokane MKL Day device, learned how to make bombs.

I imagine, with as long as both wars over there have gone on, we’ve probably got more than a few disgruntled vets with the necessary skills/experience to piece together such crude bombs.

79 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:48:00pm

Can I get the eBook version instead? I just went through the exercise of scanning and throwing out most of my books! (diybookscanner.org)

80 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:48:10pm

re: #71 kerFuFFler

I guess we can count on a lot of short, inane comments for the next few posts… :P

Yup.

81 thedopefishlives  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:48:10pm

Evening Lizardim. What’s new in the war on derp?

82 klys  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:49:14pm

re: #73 #CPAC: I Have A Short Mingle Stick.THANKS OBAMA.

Good book.

It was the first of hers I’d read. Fascinating read. You learn an awful lot about ricin poisoning that way. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

83 Major Tom  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:49:48pm

That Georgian geriatric militia was planning on using castor beans to make ricin and poison a random group of people on the highway. Similar no? cbsnews.com

84 kerFuFFler  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:50:02pm

Ordinarily I would not be feeling so creeped out by people arguing that people keeping weapons at home prevents authoritarian rule, but when every normal piece of legislation is greeted with cries of, “Tyranny!”, just because we elected a black president, I start feeling quite worried.

It is interesting to note that Adams thought that the American Revolution was OK because we fought against actual tyranny, he thought that all future “revolutions” should take place in the voting booth. “Revolutions” after a democracy had been put in place he thought should be treated as outright treason. So much for conservatives’ veneration of the principles of our Founding Fathers.

85 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:50:27pm

Here Is Video of a Pressure-Cooker Bomb Exploding

Gawker.com

86 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:50:36pm
87 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:50:54pm

re: #68 Targetpractice

How can that be? I’m not Canadian.

//

Honourary. (Canadian misspelling)

88 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:51:23pm

Average number of deaths per day caused by car and suicide bombings in Iraq, averaged by year.

Every.goddamned.day. Think about that for awhile.

89 Stanley Sea  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:51:24pm

re: #23 122 Year Old Obama

These past two days. Why. All of my why.

Oh so agreed.


Well,

Here’s my entry into the race to 3 Mil

m.youtube.com

90 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:52:39pm

re: #87 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Honourary. (Canadian misspelling)

Wait, this doesn’t mean I have to eat poutine, right?

//

91 thedopefishlives  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:53:17pm

re: #90 Targetpractice

Wait, this doesn’t mean I have to eat poutine, right?

//

Great, now I have a craving for poutine. Nice job.///

92 Amory Blaine  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:54:00pm

re: #72 Vicious Babushka

My brother just bought a Kuhn Rikon and he loves it.

93 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:55:58pm

Anyone else getting the feeling that Charles is just yanking our lizard chains? False flag! False flag!

94 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:55:58pm

re: #90 Targetpractice

Wait, this doesn’t mean I have to eat poutine, right?

//

Git practising. I’ll be entering you in the national amateur poutine eat-off this summer.

95 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:56:28pm

re: #93 Dr. Matt

Anyone else getting the feeling that Charles is just yanking our lizard chains? False flag! False flag!

I don’t have a chain, just a shoe lace.

96 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:58:42pm

re: #94 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Git practising. I’ll be entering you in the national amateur poutine eat-off this summer.

Guess it’s time to research ways to kill ones own sense of taste.

//

97 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:58:46pm

Hey everybody, run over to Glenn Beck’s web site he’s being funny!

No really, go!

98 thedopefishlives  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:59:03pm

re: #97 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Hey everybody, run over to Glenn Beck’s web site he’s being funny!

No really, go!

Nice try, but you are not a winner.

99 Tigger2  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:59:37pm

re: #97 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Hey everybody, run over to Glenn Beck’s web site he’s being funny!

No really, go!

no

100 kerFuFFler  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:59:48pm

re: #88 goddamnedfrank

Average number of deaths per day caused by car and suicide bombings in Iraq, averaged by year.

Every.goddamned.day. Think about that for awhile.

Perspective indeed.

I returned home after a long absence (arrived by bus), put my things in the house, (left my cell phone on the table), locked up to go on errands only to find that my car’s battery was dead. I went back to the house and my front door lock malfunctioned so I was locked out. I ended up having to break a window to get in….

But while feeling sorry for myself, I realized I had not had a bad day——-no one in my family had been killed or maimed while going about their day.

101 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:59:48pm

re: #96 Targetpractice

Guess it’s time to research ways to kill ones own sense of taste.

//

Hey, I just ate a bucket of poutine tonight. I can hear my arteries hardening right now.

102 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:00:15pm

OK, LOOK!

A BEAR!!

103 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:01:10pm

All my posts are green! Do I win something,!?!?!?

104 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:01:37pm

re: #100 kerFuFFler

Perspective indeed.

I returned home after a long absence (arrived by bus), put my things in the house, (left my cell phone on the table), locked up to go on errands only to find that my car’s battery was dead. I went back to the house and my front door lock malfunctioned so I was locked out. I ended up having to break a window to get in….

But while feeling sorry for myself, I realized I had not had a bad day——-no one in my family had been killed or maimed while going about their day.

I too have had to do the window breaking thing.
Mind you it was after my wife had the locks changed.

105 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:01:59pm

re: #103 Dr. Matt

All my posts are green! Do I win something,!?!?!?

Grass clippings.

106 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:02:19pm

re: #67 Gus

2006 Mumbai train bombings

Boston Bombs Used Pressure Cookers, Like Failed 2010 Times Square Attack
Also Fort Hood and about another dozen or so examples. I couldn’t find any examples of non-Islamist bombers using them aside from possibly in Nepal which was probably Marxists.

107 AlexRogan  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:02:27pm

re: #67 Gus

2006 Mumbai train bombings

My gut tells me that the Boston Marathon bombings might be an attempted “false flag” op, but not for the reasons that Alex Jones and the rest of the Black Helicopter set are blathering about.

For me, there’s just too many coincidences on the timing and location of the attack (Tax Day, MA Patriots’ Day, and a big fat nearly-impossible-to-completely-secure public event with the Boston Marathon and its sizable media presence and crowds at the finish line) for the “patriots” to be excluded from suspicion. On the other hand, the pressure cooker tactic for the bombs seems to be primarily a Middle East/Indian Islamic terrorist M.O.; I have to wonder if some of our homegrown whackjobs have been paying attention to them, especially those who have served in the US military in the region.

The fact that no one, including Al Qaeda or any other number of Islamic terror groups, has taken responsibility as of yet is making me lean towards the homegrown “patriot” types looking to wreak havoc and misdirect.

However, this is only speculation on my part; I could very well be wrong.

108 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:03:19pm

re: #105 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Grass clippings.

By “grass” you mean……?

109 Amory Blaine  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:03:20pm

re: #101 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I’ve lost almost 30 lbs. yet my gut is as big as ever. My fat gut is fighting for it’s life.

110 kerFuFFler  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:04:58pm

re: #104 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I too have had to do the window breaking thing.
Mind you it was after my wife had the locks changed.

That also sounds like a worse day than mine. For whatever reason, hubby still thinks I’m the best thing since sliced bread.

111 kerFuFFler  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:06:49pm

re: #107 AlexRogan

I have to wonder if some of our homegrown whackjobs have been paying attention to them, especially those who have served in the US military in the region.

Interesting thought.

112 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:07:37pm

re: #107 AlexRogan

The fact that no one, including Al Qaeda or any other number of Islamic terror groups, has taken responsibility as of yet is making me lean towards the homegrown “patriot” types looking to wreak havoc and misdirect.

I find it interesting that not only is there lack of anyone taking credit but the usual groups are voluntarily making denials. I think they know that we can and will reach out and touch them anywhere. The last thing they need is more drones flying overhead. Things have changed a lot over the past decade but the drones have really made a big difference.

113 Iwouldprefernotto  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:08:30pm

If first place is Rachel’s book what is 2nd place? I won’t even ask about 3rd..

114 Amory Blaine  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:08:57pm

Louie Anderson is jumping off a high dive on tv. Riveting stuff.

115 Tigger2  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:10:10pm

re: #112 Killgore Trout

I find it interesting that not only is there lack of anyone taking credit but the usual groups are voluntarily making denials. I think they know that we can and will reach out and touch them anywhere. The last thing they need is more drones flying overhead. Things have changed a lot over the past decade but the drones have really made a big difference.

I’m mixed about the drones sometimes but I think you’re right about them making a difference in some of the groups thinking.

116 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:11:36pm

re: #110 kerFuFFler

That also sounds like a worse day than mine. For whatever reason, hubby still thinks I’m the best thing since sliced bread.

We broke up, and then got back together, but I didn’t have a new key yet.

117 Tigger2  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:12:29pm

re: #115 Tigger2

I have mixed feelings about the drones sometimes but I think you’re right about them making a difference in some of the groups thinking.

118 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:12:30pm

re: #113 Iwouldprefernotto

If first place is Rachel’s book what is 2nd place? I won’t even ask about 3rd..

4th place is a vial of Dim Jim’s ball sweat.

119 abolitionist  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:13:08pm

re: #113 Iwouldprefernotto

If first place is Rachel’s book what is 2nd place? I won’t even ask about 3rd..

Maybe we all simply tie for 2nd place? How would you even define 2nd place?

120 Major Tom  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:13:43pm

Possible motive for Wicker? breitbart.com

121 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:13:57pm

re: #118 Dr. Matt

4th place is a vial of Dim Jim’s ball sweat.

Labeled “hazardous waste” and covered in biohazard stickers.

122 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:13:59pm

re: #118 Dr. Matt

4th place is a vial of Dim Jim’s ball sweat.

Fuck you!

123 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:14:19pm

re: #119 abolitionist

Maybe we all simply tie for 2nd place? How would you even define 2nd place?

!first place.

124 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:14:30pm

re: #119 abolitionist

Not first.

125 Iwouldprefernotto  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:14:51pm

re: #118 Dr. Matt

4th place is a vial of Dim Jim’s ball sweat.

Scary. His balls are bigger than his brains. I’ve read this on the Internet.

126 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:14:59pm

re: #124 #CPAC: I Have A Short Mingle Stick.THANKS OBAMA.

Not first.

Hah!

127 abolitionist  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:15:03pm

re: #124 #CPAC: I Have A Short Mingle Stick.THANKS OBAMA.

Not first.

Agree.

128 Major Tom  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:15:07pm

re: #37 Amory Blaine

Sen. Roger Wicker among 16 Republicans voting to end gun control filibuster

whoops

129 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:15:30pm

re: #125 Iwouldprefernotto

Scary. His balls are bigger than his brains. I’ve read this on the Internet.

I thought he stored his brains in his ball sack.

130 AlexRogan  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:16:30pm

re: #129 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I thought he stored his brains in his ball sack.

Does that mean that his balls are in his skull?

131 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:17:27pm

re: #130 AlexRogan

Does that mean that his balls are in his skull?

I promise you, I have no idea.

132 AlexRogan  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:18:18pm

re: #41 Dr Lizardo

I hate to even think this, but a soldier who’d previously served in Afghanistan would be highly aware of a pressure-cooker bomb.

Tim McVeigh, anyone?

My thoughts exactly.

At least, one very possible scenario.

133 Amory Blaine  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:18:19pm

You can get your 2nd vial free. Just pay shipping and handling.

134 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:18:36pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

Boston Bombs Used Pressure Cookers, Like Failed 2010 Times Square Attack
Also Fort Hood and about another dozen or so examples. I couldn’t find any examples of non-Islamist bombers using them aside from possibly in Nepal which was probably Marxists.

That’s very true. However, when some group demonstrates an effective tactic, others invariably copy it.

Suicide bombers - particularly the donning of an explosives-laden garment - began with the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam. It was so effective, various jihadist groups began emulating the tactic.

135 Kragar  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:19:16pm

rawstory.com

A blog called “susan the bruce” reported Monday that Hansen referred to women as “vaginas” in a message on the New Hampshire House internal email system.

Responding to debate over the state’s Stand Your Ground law, Hansen wrote on April 1 that “children and vagina’s” were missing from “the illustrious stories purporting to demonstrate the practical side of retreat.” The law allows deadly force when someone believes their life is in danger, without the obligation to first retreat.

“Are you really using ‘vaginas’ as a crude catch-all for women? Really?” state Rep. Rick Watrous (D-Concord) replied. “Please think before you send out such offensive language on the legislative listserve.”

But Hansen was less than apologetic.

“Having a fairly well educated mind I do not need self appointed wardens to A: try to put words in my mouth for political gain and B: Turn a well founded strategy in communication into an insulting accusation, and finally if you find the noun vagina insulting or in some way offensive then perhaps a better exercise might be for you to re-examine your psyche,” he responded.

How is that rebranding working out for you?

137 Four More Tears  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:21:46pm

re: #136 Varek Raith

Right-Wing Media Sleuths Try To Create The New Richard Jewell

These people have way too much time on their hands.

138 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:21:56pm

re: #135 Kragar

Ironic since I have always referred to Hanson as a “Dick”.

139 Amory Blaine  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:22:32pm

I see a lot of right wing speculation that the ricin package was sent by liberals to the republican senator i.e. gay rights groups etc. nestled between comments about how nazis were socialists and Mao and Stalin were liberals.

140 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:22:43pm

I think I’ll wait for the 100,000,000th post prize! I hear it will be an iPad 9!

141 klys  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:23:17pm

re: #135 Kragar

New Hampshire Republican refers to women as ‘vaginas’

How is that rebranding working out for you?

The link is borked.

Also, WTF? A ‘well-educated’ mind knows not to refer to women as vaginas.

142 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:23:43pm

Hint: there’s a statistics drop-down menu in the left sidebar that will show you how close we are to 10M.

143 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:23:52pm

re: #141 klys

I suppose it’s better than C—-S!

144 Four More Tears  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:24:28pm

re: #141 klys

The link is borked.

Also, WTF? A ‘well-educated’ mind knows not to refer to women as vaginas.

The link worked for me.

145 klys  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:24:39pm

re: #143 ReamWorks SKG

I suppose it’s better than C—-S!

…point.

But I mean really, what was wrong with just using the word women?

146 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:24:55pm

More fun if you don’t know.

147 Varek Raith  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:25:00pm

Excuse me while I post 240 random messages.
/

148 Amory Blaine  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:25:21pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

Damnit!!!! It looks like it’s going to flip tonight and I work 3rd shift. Powerless.

149 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:25:52pm

re: #139 Amory Blaine

These are the same people who think the Revolution was fought against a Liberal Atheist England.

150 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:25:55pm

re: #147 Varek Raith

Excuse me while I post 240 random messages.
/

Poop.

151 klys  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:25:56pm

re: #144 Four More Tears

The link worked for me.

I will be sad. It still doesn’t work for me even after I reloaded the page. :(

Maybe it knows that reading the full article will raise my blood pressure too high.

152 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:26:27pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

I’ve seen a lot of “experts” claiming the bomb was weak, small, crude etc. but It seems to me that is was pretty well made and effective for what it was. About the size of what can be accomplished with a suicide bombing or bike bombing of a market (or whatever).

Suicide bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan have killed far more people at less densely packed events. The “experts” you’re second guessing at this point work for the FBI and investigate these things for a living. In Afghanistan a 13 year old boy managed, with a single device, to kill more than 40 people at a wedding.

The two detonated devices will also provide critical information to investigators, who will “pick up every scrap, every fragment” to conduct chemical analysis. According to Miller, the early analysis indicates that the bombs were “not very sophisticated” and likely made with “something very simple like smokeless black powder, a low-order explosive … but enough to do the job in a big crowd.”

153 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:26:32pm

So, is this ‘ALSO SEE:’ feature something anybody can do? Did I miss an update?

154 Four More Tears  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:26:46pm
155 Four More Tears  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:27:29pm

re: #151 klys

I will be sad. It still doesn’t work for me even after I reloaded the page. :(

Maybe it knows that reading the full article will raise my blood pressure too high.

You’re missing out on another headshot of Jim Hoft. Poor you.

156 Skip Intro  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:27:49pm

re: #151 klys

Try the link at post #136.

157 Varek Raith  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:27:58pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

I’ve seen a lot of “experts” claiming the bomb was weak, small, crude etc. but It seems to me that is was pretty well made and effective for what it was. About the size of what can be accomplished with a suicide bombing or bike bombing of a market (or whatever). I would consider it a well made bomb. However, I would think that a trained US soldier with experience and training with explosives could execute something better than this.

No, it was weak, small and crude.
Just about anyone of us here can build something similar with just the internet and some time.

158 Iwouldprefernotto  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:29:04pm

re: #154 Four More Tears

WTF?! Mark Sanford’s ex-wife accuses him of trespassing, ordered to appear in court …

Did he try and take a hike on her Appalchian trail?

159 klys  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:29:16pm

re: #152 goddamnedfrank

Suicide and bike bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan have killed far more people at less densely packed events. The “experts” you’re second guessing at this point work for the FBI and investigate these things for a living. In Afghanistan a 13 year old boy managed, with a single device, to kill more than 40 people at a wedding.

It’s also worth noting, as seen in some of the photos that have been released as potentially showing the bomb before and after explosion (second blast), that the blast was not sufficient to destroy a mailbox. Despite potentially having been placed right next to it. (It seems pretty clear that the mailbox was in the vicinity of the blast based on the injuries blurred out in the after photo.)

This is not to downplay its ability to do harm to the people who were unfortunate enough to be too close - humans are substantially less sturdy than mailboxes - but when you compare to the potential for damage that explosives have, this was small.

160 kerFuFFler  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:29:21pm

re: #135 Kragar

… and finally if you find the noun vagina insulting or in some way offensive then perhaps a better exercise might be for you to re-examine your psyche,” he responded.

It’s not offense when referring to that part of the body, but referring to women as “vaginas”?

A drivel of derp
A damnation of derp
A dementia of derp

These are lame……suggestions?

161 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:29:24pm

18 February 2004:

Investigators question ricin test results

A possible explanation for the positive reading also has emerged. The sources said that investigators have determined that non-toxic byproducts of the castor bean plant — the raw material for ricin — are sometimes used in making paper. Because tests performed on congressional mail are highly sensitive, they could have picked up minute traces of products derived from the castor plant — not actual ricin, according to this theory.

162 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:30:08pm

We are now at 9,999,774…oops 9,999,775.

163 Amory Blaine  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:30:26pm

Was there a Daily Show last night?

164 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:30:34pm

re: #153 wrenchwench

So, is this ‘ALSO SEE:’ feature something anybody can do? Did I miss an update?

Oh yes, I just enabled that in Pages today - all you have to do is put “Also see:” on its own line, followed by the links, one per line. Like this:

Also see:
[link]
[link]
[link]

You can also use “Related:” the same way. On the front pages I use “Related” to refer to articles at LGF and “Also see” to refer to external links.

165 kerFuFFler  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:30:37pm

re: #145 klys

But I mean really, what was wrong with just using the word women?

It did not express enough disdain.

166 Skip Intro  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:30:41pm

re: #154 Four More Tears

Mark Sanford’s ex-wife accuses him of trespassing, ordered to appear in court …

Walking around in her house in the dark, using his cell phone as a flashlight. Probably trying to steal her underwear. Republicans are so classy.

167 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:30:46pm

Well, if Michigan Senate Democrat Lisa Brown can say it!
/

168 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:31:03pm

Charles, to throw a monkey into the wrench, start posting random threads.

169 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:31:18pm

Chris Hayes tonight showed the photo of the white bag next to the mailbox that Charles shared earlier today. Then showed another photo of an initial blast/smoke in the exact spot of the white bag.

170 klys  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:31:32pm

re: #156 Skip Intro

Try the link at post #136.

That one loads fine. #135 is just special for me.

171 Amory Blaine  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:31:59pm

re: #166 Skip Intro

Walking around in her house in the dark, using his cell phone as a flashlight. Probably trying to steal sniff her underwear. Republicans are so classy.

172 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:32:07pm

If it were any other website, you’d assume it was a prank, but:

Image: DlNHLQf.jpg

173 klys  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:32:23pm

re: #165 kerFuFFler

It did not express enough disdain.

We’re so pesky, demanding that we get to vote and have equal rights and all this shit.

174 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:32:25pm

If I win, I’ll have to find out who this “Rachel Madow” is.

175 Kragar  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:32:28pm

Fixed the link

176 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:32:35pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chris Hayes tonight showed the photo of the white bag next to the mailbox that Charles shared earlier today. Then showed another photo of an initial blast/smoke in the exact spot of the white bag.

www1.whdh.com

177 abolitionist  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:32:52pm

re: #168 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Charles, to throw a monkey into the wrench, start posting random threads.

What difference could that make?

178 Amory Blaine  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:32:58pm

Alex Jones is so nasty.

179 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:33:00pm

re: #164 Charles Johnson

Oh yes, I just enabled that in Pages today - all you have to do is put “Also see:” on its own line, followed by the links, one per line. Like this:

Also see:
[link]
[link]
[link]

You can also use “Related:” the same way. On the front pages I use “Related” to refer to articles at LGF and “Also see” to refer to external links.

Cool!

180 Stanley Sea  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:33:04pm

re: #136 Varek Raith

Right-Wing Media Sleuths Try To Create The New Richard Jewell

Bottom line, they are paranoid as hell it might, just might, look bad for them. Preemptive CYA, or something. They are such cowards in the end.

181 kerFuFFler  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:33:13pm

re: #166 Skip Intro

Mark Sanford’s ex-wife accuses him of trespassing, ordered to appear in court …

Walking around in her house in the dark, using his cell phone as a flashlight.

He might have been looking for records of donors who have helped him in the past. I know he asked her to help run his campaign and said that this time he would even pay her! My guess is she told him to take a flying leap.

182 Four More Tears  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:33:14pm

re: #172 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

If it were any other website, you’d assume it was a prank, but:

Image: DlNHLQf.jpg

They got the scoop!

183 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:33:15pm

Pressure cooker bombs are featured in the Anarchist Cookbook. Their more recent use may be oversees, but then bombings in general are more common oversees. If not in practice this kind of device at least does have a long history in the domestic literature.

184 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:33:22pm

Also see:

185 klys  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:33:37pm

re: #175 Kragar

Fixed the link

Thanks. There was no biggie, just wanted to let you know. I know you’ve got stuff on your mind today.

186 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:33:57pm

Why not “see also?”

187 Four More Tears  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:34:05pm

Seth McFarlane is in the Inner Circle!

188 Stanley Sea  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:34:37pm

re: #153 wrenchwench

So, is this ‘ALSO SEE:’ feature something anybody can do? Did I miss an update?

I’m just glad I haven’t missed your sign-off. Phew!

189 Four More Tears  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:35:18pm

re: #172 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

If it were any other website, you’d assume it was a prank, but:

Image: DlNHLQf.jpg

I love how the picture below looks like someone if facepalming.

190 PT Barnum  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:35:31pm

re: #181 kerFuFFler

He might have been looking for records of donors who have helped him in the past. I know he asked her to help run his campaign and said that this time he would even pay her! My guess is she told him to take a flying leap.

Perhaps she told him to take a long hike on a short trail

191 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:36:03pm

re: #172 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

If it were any other website, you’d assume it was a prank, but:

Image: DlNHLQf.jpg

That video is actually two different Family Guy segments edited together. Total fraud.

192 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:36:11pm

re: #188 Stanley Sea

I’m just glad I haven’t missed your sign-off. Phew!

You’re just in time!

Later, lizards.

193 aagcobb  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:36:25pm

re: #158 Iwouldprefernotto

WTF?! Mark Sanford’s ex-wife accuses him of trespassing, ordered to appear in court …

Did he try and take a hike on her Appalchian trail?

Thank you, S.C. GOP primary voters, for nominating the one Republican who might actually be able to lose this district.

194 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:36:45pm

re: #176 Dr. Matt

www1.whdh.com

thank you

195 PT Barnum  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:37:07pm

re: #189 Four More Tears

I love how the picture below looks like someone if facepalming.

Yew godda be farging kitting me!

I have a former friend who has become a complete wingnut of the worst variety (militia, the whole nine yards). I suspect he probably listens to Alex Jones.

196 Stanley Sea  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:37:18pm

re: #157 Varek Raith

No, it was weak, small and crude.
Just about anyone of us here can build something similar with just the internet and some time.

Pamela Geller, but more polite.

197 PT Barnum  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:38:13pm

re: #196 Stanley Sea

Pamela Geller, but more polite.

THat describes most of the population of the world. The more polite part I mean.

198 kerFuFFler  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:39:02pm

re: #193 aagcobb

Thank you, S.C. GOP primary voters, for nominating the one Republican who might actually be able to lose this district.

Here’s hoping!

199 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:40:24pm

Remember the good old days when the conspiracy theorists just talked about UFOs and powering cars from water?

200 Stanley Sea  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:41:15pm

re: #192 wrenchwench

You’re just in time!

Later, lizards.

Hoo Rah!!!

The website is kinda freaking right now.

201 PT Barnum  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:42:15pm

re: #199 ReamWorks SKG

Remember the good old days when the conspiracy theorists just talked about UFOs and powering cars from water?

Oh they talked about the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberger conference, the UN, the Illuminati, the Masons and so forth, but no one took them seriously back then. In fact, I had a great deal of fun mocking a whole set of conspiracy nutjobs back in the day on the WWIV BBS network.

202 Four More Tears  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:42:33pm

The cover-up begins…

203 Kaessa  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:42:49pm

re: #195 PT Barnum

I have a former friend who has become a complete wingnut of the worst variety (militia, the whole nine yards). I suspect he probably listens to Alex Jones.

I about cried when I found out my MOTHER listens to Alex Jones. And here I thought she was the sensible one. *sigh*

204 BongCrodny  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:43:31pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

Hint: there’s a statistics drop-down menu in the left sidebar that will show you how close we are to 10M.

You should start a new thread just to mix things up a little — i.e., will this thread produce the winner or the new one?

205 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:44:49pm

Do comments on “pages” count?

206 PT Barnum  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:44:59pm

re: #203 Kaessa

I about cried when I found out my MOTHER listens to Alex Jones. And here I thought she was the sensible one. *sigh*

He started to go off the deep end right about the time Obama got elected. The seeds were there long ago, as I remember him breathlessly talking about the Illuminati back when I knew him in college. I thought he was joking. I remember he carried around the Robert Anton Wilson trilogy for a while. I didn’t know he thought it was a documentary.

207 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:45:45pm

You say it’s a “signed copy” but who, exactly, signed it?

208 BryanS  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:46:25pm

re: #107 AlexRogan

My gut tells me that the Boston Marathon bombings might be an attempted “false flag” op…


The fact that no one, including Al Qaeda or any other number of Islamic terror groups, has taken responsibility as of yet is making me lean towards the homegrown “patriot” types looking to wreak havoc and misdirect.

However, this is only speculation on my part; I could very well be wrong.

Not very good reasons to ‘speculate’ a false flag operation by right wingers. Al Queda if you recall did not rush to claim credit for 911.


en.wikipedia.org

For several months after the 9/11 attacks, no one, nor any group, claimed responsibility for the attacks, so the primary responsibility fell solely upon the hijackers, all of whom were killed and all of whom left no message or any claim of responsibility behind at explaining why they had carried the attacks out.

209 kerFuFFler  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:46:33pm

re: #206 PT Barnum

He started to go off the deep derp end right about the time Obama got elected.
FIFY

210 Four More Tears  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:47:09pm

re: #207 ReamWorks SKG

You say it’s a “signed copy” but who, exactly, signed it?

The author?

211 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:47:50pm

re: #207 ReamWorks SKG

You say it’s a “signed copy” but who, exactly, signed it?

Wayne Lapierre.

212 Four More Tears  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:47:56pm

re: #206 PT Barnum

He started to go off the deep end right about the time Obama got elected. The seeds were there long ago, as I remember him breathlessly talking about the Illuminati back when I knew him in college. I thought he was joking. I remember he carried around the Robert Anton Wilson trilogy for a while. I didn’t know he thought it was a documentary.

Wasn’t he a truther before that, though?

213 Archangelus  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:49:19pm

re: #201 PT Barnum

Oh they talked about the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberger conference, the UN, the Illuminati, the Masons and so forth, but no one took them seriously back then. In fact, I had a great deal of fun mocking a whole set of conspiracy nutjobs back in the day on the WWIV BBS network.

Sigh, the good ole days, when conspiracy nuts got the respect they garnered from most of the population - none whatsoever…

214 PT Barnum  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:50:19pm

re: #212 Four More Tears

No he never bought into that bullshit. I just remember him trying to cite Jerome Corsi as a legitimate source for why he didn’t think Obama was a good choice for the office. AFter that I knew he was on the verge of derpitude. I’ve looked at his Facebook page a few times just to see what he’s doing, and it’s just become more and more unhinged. Sad, really.

215 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:51:02pm

In the world of Alex Jones there are no bad guys who do bad deeds…..everything is government conspiracy. .

216 BryanS  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:52:09pm

re: #157 Varek Raith

No, it was weak, small and crude.
Just about anyone of us here can build something similar with just the internet and some time.

Any know—were the unexploded packages actually unexploded bombs? I kinda figured it was an amateur if they couldn’t pull of setting all of them off.

217 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:54:47pm

re: #216 BryanS

Any know—were the unexploded packages actually unexploded bombs? I kinda figured it was an amateur if they couldn’t pull of setting all of them off.

There were no unexploded bombs. All those early reports were bogus.

218 kerFuFFler  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:54:53pm

re: #216 BryanS

Any know—were the unexploded packages actually unexploded bombs? I kinda figured it was an amateur if they couldn’t pull of setting all of them off.

Turns out there were no other bombs, just “suspicious” garbage….

219 kerFuFFler  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:57:45pm

re: #217 Charles Johnson

You sure type fast!

220 BryanS  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:58:21pm

Thanx for the update. The two bombs were more than enough. Whoever it was, death penalty seems appropriate—mass killings/casualties are one of the few times I support the death penalty.

221 abolitionist  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:59:59pm

re: #199 ReamWorks SKG

Remember the good old days when the conspiracy theorists just talked about UFOs and powering cars from water?

I think it would be nifty if we could come up with some practical design using liquid air as the “fuel”. In terms of a Carnot cycle heat engine, ambient temperature air could be the heat source, and the liquid air could be the heat sink. Icing issues would have to be overcome, but relatively high thermodynamic efficiency should be possible. Vehicle propulsion would be just part of the overall process. The other part would be the production, storage and dispensing of the required liquid air, but that’s all prior art.

Carnot Cycle


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