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1 RayEbay  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:13:12pm

I think he could be correct. They will have to be fanatically mercenary politically driven individuals.

2 EPR-radar  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:34:45pm

re: #1 RayEbay

I think he could be correct. They will have to be fanatically mercenary politically driven individuals.

In the real world, normal people point and laugh at those who take Glenn Beck seriously.

3 Skip Intro  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 3:52:23pm

I thought Glenn was in the process of building a perfect walled city for himself and all his disciples where the watchword would be Big Brother Knows All. Whatever happened to that?

4 majii  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 4:28:12pm

They’ll do the same thing Beck is doing—lob lie-filled bombs from a distance, and if they’re rich enough, they’ll have security guards surrounding them and will be wearing a bullet proof vest when they have any interaction with anyone in the public.

5 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 4:52:09pm

The Commodore

Glenn has it wrong, its people who believe stuff spouted by people like him who are ruining this country

6 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 4:55:54pm

re: #1 RayEbay

I think he could be correct. They will have to be fanatically mercenary politically driven individuals.

I take it you actually you believe in his insane conspiracy theories?

7 darthstar  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:01:24pm

re: #1 RayEbay

I think he could be correct. They will have to be fanatically mercenary politically driven individuals.

Mama told me never to trust people who buy their names on eBay.

And anyone who thinks Glenn Beck is right is huffing discount paint from Kmart.

8 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:05:36pm

UH, NO GLEN, most of the people who watch you are too old to change the world. The young people who don’t actually watch much TV beyond entertainment or listen to talk radio They get their news online or from their phones are the ones who are going to be alive to “save” the world.

9 Gus  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:05:49pm

Again? Glenn Beck is always saving something. Stay tuned until Monday and don’t forget to tune in. In other news I just looked at the bottom 10. Weird stuff there.

10 darthstar  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:08:13pm
11 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:10:20pm

re: #10 darthstar

Ouch.

12 darthstar  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:11:21pm
13 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:12:30pm

This is the kind of thing the PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO SAVE THE WORLD watch:

Youtube Video

14 BigPapa  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:15:11pm

He’s more like an end times preacher than anything.

I’m sure he’ll be talking about this soon, and how it’s Obama’s fault.

15 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:16:56pm

Yet, somehow the people that need meds and treatment aren’t getting it —how does that work?

Meet the Doctor Big Pharma Can’t Shut Up

16 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:18:57pm

re: #15 FemNaziBitch

Yet, somehow the people that need meds and treatment aren’t getting it —how does that work?

Meet the Doctor Big Pharma Can’t Shut Up

No offense, but usually “the Doctor Big Pharma Can’t Shut Up” is a crank and a quack. That isn’t the sort of headline sane people are drawn to.

17 Kragar  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:20:13pm

For some reason, I expected the saviors of the nation not to consist of paranoid ignorant whiny bitches, but thats just me.

18 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:23:49pm

re: #15 FemNaziBitch

Yet, somehow the people that need meds and treatment aren’t getting it —how does that work?

Meet the Doctor Big Pharma Can’t Shut Up

Actually this article pisses me off. One blatant lie about med called Abilify and the disregard of the need for treatment including meds. More people are being diagnosed because we are removing the stigma and people no longer want to live with the pain, suffering and angish of mental illness. Also, because new science of the brain has made treatment and meds available that weren’t before.

Frankly, I think the explosion in mental health treatment is one factor in the overall crime rate going down in the U.S.

We also have a shortage in Psychiatrists -the M.D.’s that are doling out these drugs. It’s a problem.

19 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:26:37pm

re: #16 Dark_Falcon

No offense, but usually “the Doctor Big Pharma Can’t Shut Up” is a crank and a quack. That isn’t the sort of headline sane people are drawn to.

I know. I hate that the article doesn’t put things in perspective. He does have a point about the opiates. American’s do tend to look for a “magic bullet” to solve their problems.

People want to use the meds alone without Cognitive Behavior Therapy or Behavior Mod therapy in conjunction. This can lead to many of the problems the article highlights.

20 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:30:09pm

I have a friend who recently took permanent guardianship of her niece (13) and nephew (10) from out-of-state. These kids have been thru the mill. The frustrating part is that funding their care isn’t the problem. My friend’s insurance covers children of guardianships AND the kids have medicaid. It’s finding a mental healthcare provider IN CHICAGO that is taking new patients and sees individuals under the age of 12.

Kids this age can’t go without their meds.

21 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:33:46pm

re: #19 FemNaziBitch

I know. I hate that the article doesn’t put things in perspective. He does have a point about the opiates. American’s do tend to look for a “magic bullet” to solve their problems.

People want to use the meds alone without Cognitive Behavior Therapy or Behavior Mod therapy in conjunction This can lead to many of the problems the article highlights.

I know but those facts cannot be properly presented by an angry crank. Someone like that will discredit any actual facts he has when he starts in with the Becklike cries of “Big Pharma Oligarhy!!1”. The points you raise are worthy, but they must be presented by the right person.

22 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:37:49pm

re: #21 Dark_Falcon

I know but those facts cannot be properly presented by an angry crank. Someone like that will discredit any actual facts he has when he starts in with the Becklike cries of “Big Pharma Oligarhy!!1”. The points you raise are worthy, but they must be presented by the right person.

or a better journalist.

23 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:40:12pm
24 Gus  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:40:16pm

re: #21 Dark_Falcon

I know but those facts cannot be properly presented by an angry crank. Someone like that will discredit any actual facts he has when he starts in with the Becklike cries of “Big Pharma Oligarhy!!1”. The points you raise are worthy, but they must be presented by the right person.

BIG PHARMA, KEYSTONE XL, AND GMOS WILL MEAN THE END OF MANKIND AS WE KNOW IT!!

//

25 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:41:31pm

re: #24 Gus

BIG PHARMA, KEYSTONE XL, AND GMOS WILL MEAN THE END OF MANKIND AS WE KNOW IT!!

//

you mean we will evolve into some other form of hominid —or devolve into pink fluorescent slugs?

26 Gus  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:41:40pm

I’m a pro-vaxxer. I also think we medicate our children way too much these days for the dumbest of things. Americans will also take any drug that a doctor prescribes them.

27 Gus  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:42:30pm

re: #25 FemNaziBitch

you mean we will evolve into some other form of hominid —or devolve into pink fluorescent slugs?

The latter. Perhaps to be consumed by our new alien overlords. That will require long periods of torture. Unless of course God gets to us first. :D

28 Gus  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:44:03pm

What is Game of Thrones?

29 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:49:15pm

re: #28 Gus

What is Game of Thrones?

video game?

30 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:49:59pm

Welcome to the New 3D-Print Order:

Everyone knows about 3-D printed guns. Now a hobbyist from Tennessee has created 3-D printed shotgun slugs. Then he sent them to his friend, who took the slugs and blasted away.

In a video posted to internet this week, Jeff Heeszel, a 48-year-old industrial technician from Visalia, California, is seen firing three 3-D printed slugs from a Mossberg 590 shotgun. The first two slugs both hit their targets at a range of about 25 to 30 feet. The first slug penetrated a dart board. “It went right through that,” Heeszel tells Danger Room. And then carried on to penetrate through a water jug. The second slug blasted through a 2×12 piece of pine wood, and then bored a hole in a wire reel. A third slug with a three-pointed front was then fired at much closer range at a mannequin’s head, but just knocked it over.

Heeszel was surprised at the first two. “I didn’t think it would go through the first piece of wood at all, much less hit anything,” he says. But he also called them more of a novelty than a practical bullet. “I thought the thing was kinda lame, but I realize there’s a lot of novelty with the 3-D printed gun, and I thought it was kind of timely. But overall I think they’re kind of crappy little rounds,” he adds.

Heeszel, who runs the popular YouTube channel Taofledermaus, isn’t an anarchist or a political activist like Cody Wilson, who created the world’s first fully printable gun. Heeszel’s videos are more like Nickelodeon-style entertainment with firearms, with lots of slow-motion and videos of silly putty and frozen Vienna sausages being blasted out of shotguns. It’s also why his friend Tony Griffy, a 50-year-old design-build contractor from Chattanooga who designed the printable slugs, chose him to shoot the things.

“I might be a redneck from Tennessee, but I love the technology,” Griffy says. Griffy, who runs a YouTube account ArtisanTony — where he also shows off a printable knife and buckshot rounds — tells Danger Room he printed the slugs more for their own enjoyment. “Because a real gun shooting plastic bullets is more fun than a plastic gun shooting real bullets,” he says. “You have to spend six hours printing a barrel that you’re going to use one time, and it’s not as much fun. It’s more about the enjoyment and the sport. And if you’re having to labor that much, then the enjoyment goes away.”

Griffy says he printed the slugs with a Solidoodle 3 3-D printer — which retails for $800 — using ABS thermoplastic using dimensions from one of Heeszel’s non-printed slugs. Griffy then created the computer-aided design files, converted them to a stereolithography format, and checked the files for inconsistencies with the 3-D printing software Netfabb. He also designed slugs in three sizes. The largest slug takes about an hour to print. The others take about 30 minutes. He also added a lead ball to each slug to give them more weight. The final step was mailing them to Heeszel, who fitted the slugs into hollowed-out — non-printed — shotgun cartridges.

31 Gus  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:50:44pm

re: #29 FemNaziBitch

video game?

Ah.

32 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:50:52pm

re: #30 Dark_Falcon

Welcome to the New 3D-Print Order:

Though these are 12 gauge rounds, so perhaps Joe Biden would like them.

[snicker]

33 Gus  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:51:34pm

Twitter dies again.

34 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:51:47pm

re: #30 Dark_Falcon

So now everyone can get even with Obama for buying up all the ammo for his sekrit armee?

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35 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:52:00pm

re: #33 Gus

Twitter dies again.

How do you live?

36 freetoken  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:52:14pm

This is America, 2013 - Yet another new “museum”:

Metal T-Rex directs visitors to creationist museum

The Boneyard Creation Museum is now open along West Highway 2 in Broken Bow.

It took a whole year longer than owner Steve Sommer had planned, but the project is finished in time for this year’s tourism season. He had originally planned to open in May 2012.

The metal T-rex that stands outside the museum building should direct people to its location. The dinosaur replica is 21 feet long and 13½ feet tall. A Broken Bow business recreated the dinosaur from an idea Sommer got from a wooden dinosaur puzzle.

He got the idea for the museum after a few visits to the Creation Museum in Kentucky but near Cincinnati.

“I’ve been there two or three times and thought it would be something we could use out here,” he said. “I’ve had an awful lot of interest.”

[…]

The museum is a nonprofit educational museum that displays what he says is evidence supporting creationism and shows the difference between evolution and creation. Sommer said he believes in the accuracy of the Bible and that the Earth is thousands of years old, not billions of years old.

[…]

I notice that the local news outlet runs the story without a hint of questioning the promotor’s premise.

37 Joanne  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:52:32pm

re: #9 Gus

Again? Glenn Beck is always saving something. Stay tuned until Monday and don’t forget to tune in. In other news I just looked at the bottom 10. Weird stuff there.

Green stamps?

38 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:53:05pm

I love this:

“You’re toast, Graham,” cracked Ms. McCaskill, a Missouri Democrat.

(to Lindsay)

(Pages Post)

39 Gus  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:53:38pm

re: #35 FemNaziBitch

How do you live?

It’s back up. |=0

40 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:58:10pm

re: #38 FemNaziBitch

I love this:

(to Lindsay)

(Pages Post)

Proper reply: “I’m fine, Mcass. Hey, how’s Obama gonna try to divert attention away from his DoJ and IRS foul-ups today?”

Give her sort of trolling the backhand, I say.

41 freetoken  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:58:49pm

We need a Pages category labled “Sex”.

42 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 10:00:42pm
43 Lidane  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 10:05:19pm

Arya Stark’s Game of Thrones “Red Wedding” Reaction Video Is the Best

SPOILERS, OBVS. Don’t watch if you don’t want to know.

I think she’s cute. And funny. Heh.

44 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 10:20:31pm
45 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 10:23:47pm

re: #44 FemNaziBitch

A site called “All Things Democrat” is unlikely to sympathetic to a Republican senator.

Filed under: “Partisan Hatchet Job” and dismissed.

46 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 10:27:10pm

re: #45 Dark_Falcon

A site called “All Things Democrat” is unlikely to sympathetic to a Republican senator.

Filed under: “Partisan Hatchet Job” and dismissed.

Did you read the article? It’s a very positive move for justice in the military.

47 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 10:33:50pm

nytol

48 freetoken  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 10:51:39pm
49 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 10:54:21pm

Shorter Glenn Beck:

BUY MORE SURVIVAL SEEDS AND GOLD, RUBES.

50 engineer cat  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:05:26pm

re: #48 freetoken

My latest masterpiece:

Creationism Turkey-style: Adnan Oktar and his Kittens of Creationism

what astonishingly trashy taste!

it’s almost enuf to put me off of curvacious figures…

51 Gus  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:05:30pm

I feel a sudden urge to say that Bradley Manning is a piece of shit.

52 Kragar  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:06:39pm

re: #51 Gus

I feel a sudden urge to say that Bradley Manning is a piece of shit.

Go right ahead.

53 Gus  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:08:57pm

re: #52 Kragar

Go right ahead.

Thank you sir can I have another?

54 Kragar  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:09:09pm

MST3k 519 - Outlaw of Gor

Youtube Video

55 engineer cat  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:09:13pm

i predict that in the year 2068 glen beck videos will become camp hits as the well educated hipsters of the futures goggle in astonishment at the kind of surreal insanity could draw an audience that took it seriously way back at the beginning of the 21st century

56 EmmaAnne  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:10:42pm

re: #26 Gus

I’m a pro-vaxxer. I also think we medicate our children way too much these days for the dumbest of things. Americans will also take any drug that a doctor prescribes them.

A lot of people think that. My experience is different. In my experience, people think long and hard and try a lot of other things before taking psychoactive drugs or, in particular, putting their children on them.

57 Gus  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:15:16pm

No bozos.

58 engineer cat  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:22:58pm

dogmatic frogs rogation

59 engineer cat  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:32:00pm

since freetoken hasn’t posted any saint-saens yet tonite, i give you my favorite guillaume dufay:

m.youtube.com

60 Lidane  Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:34:40pm

re: #54 Kragar

MST3k 519 - Outlaw of Gor

LOL Gor. There were actually people who took those books literally and created an entire BDSM subculture around them. Skimming through that movie, I don’t know how anyone ever thought they were worth emulating.

61 A Mom Anon  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 12:26:16am

re: #40 Dark_Falcon

Read the page DF. Sen. McCaskill wasn’t trolling anyone. She was joking with Sen. Graham about there being more women on the Armed Forces Committee than ever in the history of the Senate. No”trolling backhand” needed. Geesh.

62 Chrysicat  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 1:43:32am

re: #29 FemNaziBitch

Well, it is one also—I actually have a special edition for PS3 that came with an artbook and I think a soundtrack—but most importantly, it’s a medieval-fantasy series on HBO. With more medieval than fantasy in these moderately-early stages. The VG’s actually an adaptation of the show, which is an adaptation of A Song of Ice and Fire book series by George R.R. Martin. But I think you knew that :-P

63 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 1:55:09am

re: #19 FemNaziBitch

I know. I hate that the article doesn’t put things in perspective. He does have a point about the opiates. American’s do tend to look for a “magic bullet” to solve their problems.

People want to use the meds alone without Cognitive Behavior Therapy or Behavior Mod therapy in conjunction. This can lead to many of the problems the article highlights.

The meds helped my illness a lot. The various therapies, not so much.

They aren’t designed to deal with a complete loss of faith. That’s my biggest problem. I have no faith in our system anymore. All its talk about intelligence and hard work being valued is a lie. What is most valued is propriety.

I regard the TGGOP and other right wing political entities as fine examples of this. Although I don’t believe any of the others are much better.

64 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 2:02:06am

re: #28 Gus

What is Game of Thrones?

First a book series, now an HBO TV series.

This cover for it will sum it up.

If you’re the type to get attached to characters don’t go near it. Death is the nicest thing that happens to all of them. Peter Dinklage deserve the Emmies he’s won though.

65 freetoken  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 2:25:12am

This one goes out to the Kittens of Creation:

MP3 Audio

66 freetoken  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 2:34:01am

Maybe this one might be even better:

MP3 Audio

67 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 3:12:05am

re: #60 Lidane

LOL Gor. There were actually people who took those books literally and created an entire BDSM subculture around them. Skimming through that movie, I don’t know how anyone ever thought they were worth emulating.

Goreans…..

I have no problems with folks spicing things up with a little occasional kinkiness, but to make it ‘a philosophy of life’ is, to me, a laughable idea.

I’ve read a couple of the early ‘Gor’ books; they were OK, but from what I understand, the later books were pretty much just trashy S&M porn.

68 freetoken  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 3:21:16am

re: #64 Romantic Heretic

The TV series has a freakin’ 9.4 rating on IMDB, all the more evidence that the ratings at IMDB have fallen into uselessness.

It might be a good series, as far as TV goes, but for it to have such a high rating is ridiculous.

69 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 3:31:02am

re: #68 freetoken

It’s obviously not useless, it’s just what it is. A rating that high means there’s a very hardcore group of fans who vote high, and not a lot of people who watch and just go ‘meh’ and vote lower, and very few people who outright hate it.

It’s still information, just not perfect information.

Also, while there’s somewhat of a downward trend in the ages of Dr Whos (Drs Who?), its not a clean series.


55, 46, 50, 40, 29, 40, 44, 36, 41, 34, 27.

I’m betting the next one will be older than 27.

70 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 4:17:10am

re: #28 Gus

What is Game of Thrones?

A bad series of fantasy novels from someone who thinks that having all antagonists is hip & killing characters is advancing the plot line. I got 3/4 of the way through the first book before taking it back to the library in boredom. I got a copy of the latest Guy Gavriel Kay novel instead - much better writing and storytelling.

There is an HBO version that I have not seen (no TV) that is supposed to be fairly faithful to the books; I’m not sure that’s a good thing.

71 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 4:22:06am

re: #18 FemNaziBitch

Actually this article pisses me off. One blatant lie about med called Abilify and the disregard of the need for treatment including meds. More people are being diagnosed because we are removing the stigma and people no longer want to live with the pain, suffering and angish of mental illness. Also, because new science of the brain has made treatment and meds available that weren’t before.

Frankly, I think the explosion in mental health treatment is one factor in the overall crime rate going down in the U.S.

We also have a shortage in Psychiatrists -the M.D.’s that are doling out these drugs. It’s a problem.

I have seen ads for Abilify on network TV. It uses a “cute” cartoon kind of like “Family Guy” and is supposed to be a med for depression, except that you already have to be taking other meds for depression also, and the disclaimer that plays at double speed warns about the side effects yadayadayadaSUICIDALIDEATIONSyadayadayadaALLERGICREACTIONSyadayada
yadaSTROKEyadayadayada.

Geez who would want to take that shit?

72 freetoken  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 4:25:18am

re: #69 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Well, that’s the problem. It has something like 183 thousand ratings, so obviously a huge fan base is going in and giving it all 10’s.

Perhaps I’ll sound old here, but back when IMDB started one of its values is that you could find lots of intelligent critique of film (and tv). If all the ratings have become are battle grounds between fandom camps on which show is the most popular and everyone gives their favorite show a 10 rating, then the rating only indicates the ferocity of the fandom, not the quality of the show.

And there have been plenty of mediocre television shows that have numerous hard-core fans.

73 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 4:30:49am

This morning’s wingnut FAUXTRAGE:


“SEEKRIT” emails? Maybe they are like, for internal use only? Just like my work email?

74 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 4:32:07am
75 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 4:35:31am

DERP

76 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 4:49:15am

re: #72 freetoken

Well, that’s the problem. It has something like 183 thousand ratings, so obviously a huge fan base is going in and giving it all 10’s.

Right, which is information. A huge fan base is wildly into the show, and thinks very highly of it.

Perhaps I’ll sound old here, but back when IMDB started one of its values is that you could find lots of intelligent critique of film (and tv).

You can still find a lot of good critique there. Ratings aren’t critique, though, so I’m not sure how this connects.

If all the ratings have become are battle grounds between fandom camps on which show is the most popular and everyone gives their favorite show a 10 rating, then the rating only indicates the ferocity of the fandom, not the quality of the show.

This is a rather huge logical leap. That there are people who are wildly excited about the show and will rate it 10— are you saying this is not an honest rating on their part, that they don’t really consider it a 10? Or what?

I think I’m a little baffled that you seem to think that a rating system of any sort is going to actually analyze the quality of a show from some objective standpoint. You seem to be implying this was the case in the past on IMDB.

Rating is an inherently problematic task because everyone approaches it with a different attitude. For example, I think Big Trouble in Little China is the best bad movie ever made. I would not hesitate to rate it 10 out of 10. However, if I had to ‘rank’ it with other movies, and compared it to, say, The Searchers, I’d rate it about a 7. Which is the ‘correct’ ranking I should use when voting on a place like IMDB?

What about a movie like “Breakfast at Tiffanys”, which is a great movie but really fucking marred by Mickey Rooneys amazingly racist role? Do you knock points off for cringe-worthy, unfunny racism, or accept it as a problem of the time? This could apply to a shitload of old movies.

And there have been plenty of mediocre television shows that have numerous hard-core fans.

Well, sure. And to those fans, those shows were awesome. Are you saying that back in ye good olde days the unwashed hoi-polloi didn’t vote on IMDB and things were better for it?

77 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 5:02:10am

re: #76 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

What about a movie like “Breakfast at Tiffanys”, which is a great movie but really fucking marred by Andy Rooneys amazingly racist role? Do you knock points off for cringe-worthy, unfunny racism, or accept it as a problem of the time? This could apply to a shitload of old movies.

It was Mickey, not Andy Rooney who played that cringingly horrible “Jap” stereotype.

78 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 5:02:52am

re: #77 Vicious Babushka

It was Mickey, not Andy Rooney who played that cringingly horrible “Jap” stereotype.

Thanks. Corrected. Sorry, Andy.

79 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 5:04:16am

OTOH Linda Hunt (who is the baddest badass on TV) crossed both racial and gender to play a Chinese boy in “Year of Living Dangerously” in the ‘80’s.

80 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 5:04:47am

re: #77 Vicious Babushka

Have you ever seen any of the “Andy Hardy” series, where Mickey Rooney stars? They’re terrible and mawkish and they make me confuse Mickey and Andy Rooney.

81 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 5:05:11am

re: #75 Vicious Babushka

DERP

Do you lube yourself up before you pull ‘facts’ out of your ass, Bryan, or do you enjoy the pain of having to put extra ‘oomph’ into it?

82 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 5:07:02am

re: #80 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Have you ever seen any of the “Andy Hardy” series, where Mickey Rooney stars? They’re terrible and mawkish and they make me confuse Mickey and Andy Rooney.

Years ago, when I was a kid, they were shown on TV. I really did not pay attention to them.

Didn’t Mickey Rooney start out playing child roles because he looked so much younger than he really was? I just remember one movie he did with Judy Garland, some kind of corn-fed musical.

83 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 5:08:31am

re: #82 Vicious Babushka

Yeah, Rooney got the younger roles because of his baby face.

I watched like four of those movies as a kid, and midway through the fourth one I thought “What the fuck am I doing, these are awful”. A significant moment in my growth.

84 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 5:10:22am

re: #83 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Yeah, Rooney got the younger roles because of his baby face.

I watched like four of those movies as a kid, and midway through the fourth one I thought “What the fuck am I doing, these are awful”. A significant moment in my growth.

I just remember Mickey Rooney as a middle-aged short guy who always had to have arm candy that was at least 1 foot taller than he was.

85 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 5:10:52am

He’s still alive, BTW.

86 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 5:13:40am

Mickey Rooney is not the shortest man in Hollywood. Danny Devito, Linda Hunt, and Peter Dinklage are shorter.

87 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 5:16:33am

My new favorite insanity song:

Youtube Video

88 Lidane  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 5:24:59am

Cue the ‘splodey heads:

Carmel H.S. ‘cutest couple’ become Internet sensation

Posts and tweets about the downfall of society in 3…2…1…

89 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 5:25:36am

Wingnuts are really seething over this “SEEKRIT EMAILS FOR OBAMA ADMINS”

Maybe they just don’t want to get a shitload of spam?

90 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 5:29:40am

re: #89 Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts are really seething over this “SEEKRIT EMAILS FOR OBAMA ADMINS”

Maybe they just don’t want to get a shitload of spam?

That was SOP for the Bush administration to discuss torture, why is it so bad now?

91 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 5:30:42am

re: #90 Eventual Carrion

That was SOP for the Bush administration to discuss torture, why is it so bad now?

NCLANG IN TEH WHITE HOUSE!!!111!!

92 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 5:33:46am

When the state of Alaska released Queen Dipshit’s emails while she was governor, there were several instances where she instructed her staff to use their personal emails to discuss government-related issues. Where was the fake outage?

93 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 5:35:23am

re: #92 Dr. Matt

When the state of Alaska released Queen Dipshit’s emails while she was governor, there were several instances where she instructed her staff to use their personal emails to discuss government-related issues. Where was the fake outage?

The OUTRAGE!!11!! was when some kids broke into her Yahoo! email account, using answers to security questions that they found through Google.

94 Lidane  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 5:55:04am
95 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:04:18am

Wisconsin ranks 49th in Fed economic forecast

Wisconsin’s six-month economic forecast ranks 49th in the nation, according to the latest state-by-state analysis by the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia.


The Philadelphia Fed produces a quarterly “Leading Index” for each of the 50 states to forecast six-month economic growth.

Wisconsin’s coincident growth index stands at -0.74 percent. Wyoming is the only state with a lower projection

.

Laser focus

96 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:09:11am

re: #95 Amory Blaine

Wisconsin ranks 49th in Fed economic forecast

.

Laser focus

That’s why they’re in such a hurry to pass all their anti-Wisconsin crap laws; even the Republicans here are getting tired of their incompetency.

97 Lidane  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:12:43am

re: #95 Amory Blaine

Wisconsin ranks 49th in Fed economic forecast

.

Laser focus

98 Lidane  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:23:46am

Oh hai! Meet Bryan Fischer’s next Twitter obsession:

99 darthstar  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:23:52am

Mornin’ everyone.

100 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:24:58am

re: #75 Vicious Babushka

Bryan Fischer @BryanJFischer

Only serious way to address problem of rape in military: no women, homosexuals in uniform.

DERP

Mr Fischer, a gay 11 Bravo took your draft-deferred slot in 1971. Please be quiet.

liberalslikechrist.org

101 darthstar  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:25:39am

It appears Scandalpalooza isn’t going so well for the GOP

Update: One more data point. On Morning Joe today, Chuck Todd described Issa as a “guy who cries wolf,” noting that he had promised huge scandal dividends from Benghazi but hadn’t delivered, and that he is now making similar claims about the IRS scandal.

102 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:30:18am

DERP

THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF ACA IS TO DEPRIVE EVERYONE OF HEALTH CARE SO THEY WILL ALL GET SICK AND DIE!!11!! HITLERGENOCIDEHURRHURRDERP!!11!!


They really believe this inside-out, upside-down shit they’re spewing.

103 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:31:42am

Hands Free Whopper

Youtube Video

104 iossarian  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:32:04am

re: #102 Vicious Babushka

They (the wealthy) hate Obamacare because they know eventually it will become embedded in society and they’ll never be able to get rid of it.

Idiots like scary-eyed Tennessee Law Girl just repeat that stuff because they’re told to.

105 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:32:08am

MOAR DERP

106 Lidane  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:32:13am

re: #102 Vicious Babushka

They really believe this inside-out, upside-down shit they’re spewing.

40+ years of conditioning via talk radio, conservative “media” and Faux News will do that. They have carved out their own alternate reality.

107 Ian G.  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:32:17am

re: #88 Lidane

Cue the ‘splodey heads:

Carmel H.S. ‘cutest couple’ become Internet sensation

Posts and tweets about the downfall of society in 3…2…1…

Amazing. Suburban, white, public High School when I was there (admittedly, almost 20 years ago) was wildly homophobic. There was no way this could have ever happened at my high school without these two being beaten half to death every day by the football players.

108 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:32:45am

re: #102 Vicious Babushka

DERP


They really believe this inside-out, upside-down shit they’re spewing.

He he that website looks like it was put together by Drudge.

109 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:33:12am
ObamaCare benefits everyone —except the young, the old, the sick, the poor and the economy…
t.co
— Patriot (@tnlawgirl)
June 4, 2013

Young adults can stay on their parents health plan until age 26. I realize this makes them MoochersLaziesFoodStampers, but people under age 26 are kinda young.

110 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:34:41am

re: #102 Vicious Babushka

Also, too: people with pre-existing conditions are not barred from getting insurance now.

111 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:35:29am

re: #105 Vicious Babushka

So, gopthinking=bad punctuation and even worse spelling.

112 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:36:47am

re: #101 darthstar

Wow, Chuck Todd actually admitted that? What’s this world coming to?

113 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:37:17am

Medical Bills Survey Reveals One-Fifth of American Families Face Burdensome Health Care Costs

More than 1 in 5 Americans under age 65 had problems paying medical bills in 2011, and the burden disproportionately fell on the poor, the uninsured and those on government health care programs, according to survey findings released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Tuesday.

114 darthstar  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:38:11am

re: #108 Amory Blaine

He he that website looks like it was put together by Drudge.

View Source on that page…it’s got Drudge’s fingerprints.

!— WP-Drudge admin header code start —>
!— version 2.3.2 —>

!— / WP-Drudge header code —>

115 Lidane  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:38:24am

That GOP rebranding thing might take a while:

In focus groups in January, the report said, young voters were asked to list leaders of the Democratic Party. “They named prominent former or currently elected officials: Pelosi, the Clintons, Obama, Kennedy, Gore. When those same respondents were asked to name Republican leaders, they focused heavily on media personalities and commentators: Bill O’Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck.”

116 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:40:07am

re: #94 Lidane

Basically, Erickson is derpy. And Erickson has big appeal to conservatives because lots of them are derpy. But the country is getting less derpy, and in time the Republican party will have to get less derpy, too. That’s my project, and I don’t expect Erickson to like it.

Read more: businessinsider.com

117 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:40:31am

re: #115 Lidane

That GOP rebranding thing might take a while:

Well, they’re not exactly wrong. Rush barks “Jump!” and Boehner replies “How high?”

118 darthstar  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:42:45am

re: #115 Lidane

That GOP rebranding thing might take a while:

And the House GOP says they’re going to address immigration reform in pieces…so that party isn’t going anywhere.

119 iossarian  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:46:14am

re: #118 darthstar

And the House GOP says they’re going to address immigration reform in pieces…so that party isn’t going anywhere.

Let me guess:

The “kick some of them out” part gets a vote.

The “let some of them stay” part doesn’t.

Hispanics: natural GOP voters.

120 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:48:08am

re: #118 darthstar

And the House GOP says they’re going to address immigration reform in pieces…so that party isn’t going anywhere.

Meanwhile in the Senate, some of the more nutty Democrats think if they drag the immigration reform bill there more and more to the right and get “broad” bipartisan support for it, then House Republicans will snap into supporting it.

121 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:48:41am

I wonder, 10 years from now, how many people will remember what they were wearing and what they had for dinner on the night that HBO showed the “Red Wedding” episode of GOT.

122 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:51:08am

re: #110 Bulworth

Also, too: people with pre-existing conditions are not barred from getting insurance now.

123 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:51:11am

re: #120 Targetpractice

Overton’s patio door.

124 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:53:55am

re: #123 Amory Blaine

Overton’s patio door.

You know how it goes, there’s some masochists who think that this time, if they really try to play nice with the GOP, they won’t get chewed to shreds for their efforts.

125 Lidane  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:54:29am

re: #120 Targetpractice

Meanwhile in the Senate, some of the more nutty Democrats think if they drag the immigration reform bill there more and more to the right and get “broad” bipartisan support for it, then House Republicans will snap into supporting it.

That’s because they’re goddamn morons. The House GOP won’t vote for anything that Obama might like. Period.

126 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:56:34am

re: #125 Lidane

That’s because they’re goddamn morons. The House GOP won’t vote for anything that Obama might like. Period.

Ayep. In their minds, the fact that Obama might get even a smidgen of the credit, not to mention their own base throwing a shit-fit over the idea that all them there brown folks might be Americans one day, is reason enough to sink this effort no matter how much their analysts say it’s vital to remaining a viable political party.

127 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:57:26am

re: #121 Vicious Babushka

I wonder, 10 years from now, how many people will remember what they were wearing and what they had for dinner on the night that HBO showed the “Red Wedding” episode of GOT.

It’s a really well done series. The sets are amazing, it looks great and the acting is excellent. As a casual watcher it’s hard to follow the plot at times and keep track of who’s who. I’m kind of wondering what the series is supposed to be about. Is it just that all the characters are ruthless or that power (or the quest for power) corrupts everybody differently?
It’s a really well done series but I’m not sure if it adds anything to the elves/dwarves and dragons genre of fantasy.

128 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:58:00am

Sighting of a non-Wingnut Derp
Cannabis does not CURE cancer.

129 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:58:38am

re: #127 Killgore Trout

It’s a really well done series. The sets are amazing, it looks great and the acting is excellent. As a casual watcher it’s hard to follow the plot at times and keep track of who’s who. I’m kind of wondering what the series is supposed to be about. Is it just that all the characters are ruthless or that power (or the quest for power) corrupts everybody differently?
It’s a really well done series but I’m not sure if it adds anything to the elves/dwarves and dragons genre of fantasy.

I started reading the set of books but I could just not get into the story.

130 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 6:59:30am

re: #128 Vicious Babushka

Sighting of a non-Wingnut Derp
Cannabis does not CURE cancer.

Could be Libertarian subspecies of Wingnut Derp.

131 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:01:39am

WTF DERP

132 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:02:11am

re: #96 William Barnett-Lewis

That’s why they’re in such a hurry to pass all their anti-Wisconsin crap laws; even the Republicans here are getting tired of their incompetency.

But it’s not incompetency. They’re doing exactly what they set out to do: To make Wisconsin a ‘business friendly’ place. That is a place where only large corporations have any power and every one else can just suck it.

It’s evil, but competently applied evil.

133 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:03:53am

re: #105 Vicious Babushka

MOAR DERP

Gopthinking? Isn’t that an oxymoron these days?

134 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:03:54am

re: #129 Vicious Babushka

I started reading the set of books but I could just not get into the story.

Yeah, the plot seems overly complicated. A lot of the characters are cool and interesting but I don’t seem to care about any of them. Lost was similar with the whole killing off major characters and complicated story line. Even though the acting in Lost was pretty awful sometimes and much of the story lines weren’t very good but I think they did a better job of making the audience feel an emotional investment in the characters.

135 Lidane  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:04:35am

re: #75 Vicious Babushka

136 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:05:51am

re: #134 Killgore Trout

Yeah, the plot seems overly complicated. A lot of the characters are cool and interesting but I don’t seem to care about any of them. Lost was similar with the whole killing off major characters and complicated story line. Even though the acting in Lost was pretty awful sometimes and much of the story lines weren’t very good but I think they did a better job of making the audience feel an emotional investment in the characters.

I never watched an episode of LOST.

137 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:08:35am

Turkey’s reaction to protests follows Islamist playbook

Islamist leaders in Egypt, Tunisia and Turkey have shown an arrogance toward opposition views, breeding frustration that exacerbates civil unrest and instability and is likely to spread as democratic reforms continue to sweep the region, analysts say.

“The similarity is quite striking, (but) not that surprising,” because Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and other Islamist leaders “have a similar view of democracy,” says Shadi Hamid, director of research at the Brookings Doha Center.

They believe winning elections gives them a mandate and considerable latitude to pursue their vision, even in the face of significant opposition, Hamid says. “There’s less of an idea of consensus building or taking into account the positions of the electoral minorities.”

138 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:09:06am

re: #135 Lidane

Gee, it’s hard to believe that he was forced into retirement for being absolutely bugfuck insane.

///

139 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:10:08am

re: #136 Vicious Babushka

I never watched an episode of LOST.

Let me sum it up for you:

The doctor is calm except when he’s ANGRY which is most of the time, Sawyer is a confidence man with a HEART OF GOLD insanity
They couldn’t figure out what the fuck they were doing with the monster
In the end it’s just another stupid good vs. evil supernatural story.

140 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:10:38am

Good morning Lizards.

Good night’s rest. Two cups of tea. Brilliant day outside. So I am sitting here reading comments. O_o

Actually editing and sorting photos.

Per the GOP re-branding the head of the national level College Republicans Board was on NPR yesterday. They issued a report showing that 26 and unders had generally negative terms associated with the GOP. Asked about solutions by the interviewer and pretty much the standard “we need to present ourselves” better crap was spouted. I just had to wonder whether she really wanted to say something about policies such as gay marriage, etc. but was too much the team player to break from the assigned talking points.

141 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:11:44am

re: #137 Killgore Trout

Turkey’s reaction to protests follows Islamist playbook

Sounds the same as the GOP playbook.

FAIL. It’s not an Islamist thing. It’s a power-seeking thing.

142 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:12:44am

re: #122 Vicious Babushka

Wingnut: Obamacare won’t help sick people

Sane person: Obamacare ensures coverage for people with pre-existing conditions

Wingnut: What about the costs!?!!!11!!!?!?!?!111

143 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:16:38am

re: #122 Vicious Babushka

All hail the new healthcare cost “realists”.

//

144 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:19:50am

re: #134 Killgore Trout

Yeah, the plot seems overly complicated. A lot of the characters are cool and interesting but I don’t seem to care about any of them. Lost was similar with the whole killing off major characters and complicated story line. Even though the acting in Lost was pretty awful sometimes and much of the story lines weren’t very good but I think they did a better job of making the audience feel an emotional investment in the characters.

I stopped watching GoT when I got emotional investment in characters. Specifically that little shit Joffrey Baratheon. I checked out the wiki to see if he got the fate he so richly deserved.

I tried to make this a spoiler but couldn’t figure out how. No instructions that I could find either. so skip the next paragraph if you don’t want spoilers.

He did. But I made the mistake checking on other characters.

As I said earlier, killing a character was Martin being nice to them.

Oh, read a funny article at The Onion about the latest show.

145 Lidane  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:20:22am

Laser-like focus, etc. —


Conant is Rubio’s press secretary, BTW. This isn’t just a random tweet.

146 engineer cat  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:20:46am

re: #101 darthstar

It appears Scandalpalooza isn’t going so well for the GOP

i’m old enuf to remember when the gulf oil spill was gonna be obama’s katrina

147 Lidane  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:22:00am

re: #146 engineer cat

i’m old enuf to remember when the gulf oil spill was gonna be obama’s katrina

Oh man. Remember the days when the PUMA faction were going to keep Obama off the presidential ticket because of questions about his birth certificate?

Fun times.

148 iossarian  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:22:30am

re: #139 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Let me sum it up for you:

The doctor is calm except when he’s ANGRY which is most of the time, Sawyer is a confidence man with a HEART OF GOLD insanity
They couldn’t figure out what the fuck they were doing with the monster
In the end it’s just another stupid good vs. evil supernatural story.

I find, as I get older, that I have less and less patience with this type of TV show (Game of Thrones, Lost, Breaking Bad etc.) because I can never actually believe that the people involved would behave the way they do and/or they’re all selfish bastards, which is also implausible (some people are selfish bastards but quite a few people are not and actually end up doing alright by it).

I think my ideal movie pole is gradually shifting from “Star Wars” to “The Straight Story”.

149 Lidane  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:24:13am

Wait, what? I thought the right hated college and all of its librul indoctrinashun:

150 Stanghazi  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:25:15am
151 iossarian  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:25:53am

The thing about Game of Thrones that really pisses me off is that it pretends to be this whole honor-bound society thing, but then no-one has any difficulty committing horrific acts that totally contravene the so-called honor code.

If you compare it to actual human society over time (and especially the middle ages which the show/books ape) it makes no sense at all.

152 iossarian  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:28:16am

re: #149 Lidane

Wait, what? I thought the right hated college and all of its librul indoctrinashun:

Colleges are hotbeds of anti-American liberal thought except when they’re safe places for red-blooded young American males to jump anything that moves with no thought for the consequences, which is the American dream and must not be tampered with.

153 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:30:23am

re: #149 Lidane

I thought the whole aim of the conservative revolution, counter-revolution, take back America thing was to “de-eroticize” the country because slutz. //

154 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:31:50am

re: #145 Lidane

Rebranding!

Also, too: the U.S. Constitution is Holy and inviolate, and here are the eleventy Constitutional Amendments we want…

155 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:33:12am

re: #119 iossarian

Let me guess:

The “kick some of them out” part gets a vote.

The “let some of them stay” part doesn’t.

Hispanics: natural GOP voters.

And as for the recent study showing how the GOP is losing the youth vote: “They’ll get older and come around eventually”

156 iossarian  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:34:32am

re: #153 Bulworth

I thought the whole aim of the conservative revolution, counter-revolution, take back America thing was to “de-eroticize” the country because slutz. //

It’s weird for conservative intellectuals because they don’t want to appear total rubes for hating D.H. Lawrence. So they have to allow that some degree of (suitably sophisticated) “erotic thought” is OK. They are also pushed into this by the tendency of late middle-aged intellectual men to fall for 20-something graduate assistants, which has to be explained/justified.

On the other hand, 20-something women establishing power in the sexual sphere is anathema to them. So they also have to sign on to the slut-shaming agenda.

This kind of thing (protecting the rights of men at colleges to sexually harass women) allows them to satisfy both requirements.

157 Lidane  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:36:17am

re: #155 Sol Berdinowitz

And as for the recent study showing how the GOP is losing the youth vote: “They’ll get older and come around eventually”

This is a common refrain:

“People naturally get more conservative as they get older!”

“Sure, they’re liberal now, but once they get married/have kids/get mugged/ get a job, etc. they’ll come around!”

“All they need to do is find Jesus, then they’ll think right!”

Third verse, same as the first. The GOP will never get over their denial.

158 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:39:28am

re: #157 Lidane

This is a common refrain:

“People naturally get more conservative as they get older!”

“Sure, they’re liberal now, but once they get married/have kids/get mugged/ get a job, etc. they’ll come around!”

“All they need to do is find Jesus, then they’ll think right!”

Third verse, same as the first. The GOP will never get over their denial.

I’ve become, if anything, more liberal with age. A lot to do with it is the religious/conservative right acting like total assholes in terms of treating other people fairly and caring about society more than their own gathering of wealth and power.

159 GeneJockey  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:42:47am

re: #151 iossarian

The thing about Game of Thrones that really pisses me off is that it pretends to be this whole honor-bound society thing, but then no-one has any difficulty committing horrific acts that totally contravene the so-called honor code.

If you compare it to actual human society over time (and especially the middle ages which the show/books ape) it makes no sense at all.

Read the history of the English Monarchy from 1066 through the 17th century. The Medieval world was about power, not honor, and those who lost lost everything up to and including their heads.

160 GeneJockey  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:47:48am

re: #158 Feline Fearless Leader

I’ve become, if anything, more liberal with age. A lot to do with it is the religious/conservative right acting like total assholes in terms of treating other people fairly and caring about society more than their own gathering of wealth and power.

Conservatism as currently constituted has driven me leftward. So has observation of how things ACTUALLY work, as opposed to the Libertarian fantasies of the Right, wherein The Market rewards the Deserving and punishes the Undeserving.

161 iossarian  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:53:52am

re: #159 GeneJockey

Read the history of the English Monarchy from 1066 through the 17th century. The Medieval world was about power, not honor, and those who lost lost everything up to and including their heads.

I get that. My point was that a lot of the things that happen in Game of Thrones don’t make sense within that universe - if it really is the power-crazy, no-rules place that it suggests then you wouldn’t have serious players just hanging out in the castle of people they’ve pissed off in the past, because that’s obviously a death sentence.

The show wants to have it both ways, with this elaborate honor code (for faux authenticity) coupled with ultra-violence and code-breaking at every turn (for thrillz).

From my (limited) awareness of middle-ages history (and I’m probably revealing my near-total ignorance by describing it as such) I think that the truth is probably quite a bit more mundane: there was less breaking of the actual “honor code”, but then that honor code was probably less formal and prescriptive than the one depicted in the series. Overall, people probably behaved more like, well, actual people.

162 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:54:14am
163 iossarian  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:56:37am

re: #158 Feline Fearless Leader

I’ve become, if anything, more liberal with age. A lot to do with it is the religious/conservative right acting like total assholes in terms of treating other people fairly and caring about society more than their own gathering of wealth and power.

I think the “people become more conservative as they get older” claim is probably somewhat true in a classic mid-20th-century “liberal democracy”. What’s happened in the US in the past 30 years trumps that, though, as the political system has swung sharply to the right, with the effect that an individual’s slight rightward drift becomes, relatively speaking, a swing to the left.

164 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:59:26am

re: #163 iossarian

I think the “people become more conservative as they get older” claim is probably somewhat true in a classic mid-20th-century “liberal democracy”. What’s happened in the US in the past 30 years trumps that, though, as the political system has swung sharply to the right, with the effect that an individual’s slight rightward drift becomes, relatively speaking, a swing to the left.

Hit a ‘liberalism’ plateau around 1969, have been slowly getting more lefty ever since. Seemed to accelerate a bit around 2007.

165 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:00:20am

re: #161 iossarian

On the other hand, the stupidity of people with power can be pretty intense. Ghenghis Khan I think only like three times declared an aggressive war, the rest of the time he was killing the shit out of places because they’d killed his ambassadors or his merchants.

this was a repeated pattern for like 20 goddamn years, Ghenghis Khan would send out an ambassador to somewhere, they’d mutilate him and send him back, Ghenghis would flatten them, send an ambassador to the next kingdom— you’d have really thought people would catch on.

166 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:02:41am

re: #164 Decatur Deb

Hit a ‘liberalism’ plateau around 1969, have been slowly getting more lefty ever since. Seemed to accelerate a bit around 2007.

There was a slogan or a quote (don’t know who it’s attributed to, probably various different individuals) going around back in the day: “Whoever is not a liberal in his youth has no heart; whoever is not a conservative in his old age has no brain” or something like that.

167 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:02:51am

re: #164 Decatur Deb

Hit a ‘liberalism’ plateau around 1969, have been slowly getting more lefty ever since. Seemed to accelerate a bit around 2007.

My true political views are so divergent from the mainstream that instead I focus on a sort of utilitarianism, which ‘liberalism’ fits a lot better than Ayn Rand economics with Handsmaid’s Tale social issues.

What I would love for there to be is an actual ‘conservative’ party who fought against unnecessary and radical change. Right now, by those standards, the Democrats are a lot more conservative than the GOP.

168 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:04:23am

re: #165 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

On the other hand, the stupidity of people with power can be pretty intense. Ghenghis Khan I think only like three times declared an aggressive war, the rest of the time he was killing the shit out of places because they’d killed his ambassadors or his merchants.

this was a repeated pattern for like 20 goddamn years, Ghenghis Khan would send out an ambassador to somewhere, they’d mutilate him and send him back, Ghenghis would flatten them, send an ambassador to the next kingdom— you’d have really thought people would catch on.

Genghis Khan was supposed to be actually progressive for his time. He pretty much left conquered peoples on their own, as long as they paid the tributes, and he included women in his councils. Also his DNA is found everywhere.

169 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:05:50am

re: #167 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

My true political views are so divergent from the mainstream that instead I focus on a sort of utilitarianism, which ‘liberalism’ fits a lot better than Ayn Rand economics with Handsmaid’s Tale social issues.

What I would love for there to be is an actual ‘conservative’ party who fought against unnecessary and radical change. Right now, by those standards, the Democrats are a lot more conservative than the GOP.

Under extreme circumstances, conserving a threatened system could make temporary sense. That’s not true for a world that’s changing at an accelerating pace. Adapt (intelligently) or perish.

170 iossarian  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:06:06am

re: #166 Vicious Babushka

There was a slogan or a quote (don’t know who it’s attributed to, probably various different individuals) going around back in the day: “Whoever is not a liberal in his youth has no heart; whoever is not a conservative in his old age has no brain” or something like that.

It’s a false Winston Churchill quotation!

winstonchurchill.org

171 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:06:40am

re: #168 Vicious Babushka

Genghis Khan was supposed to be actually progressive for his time. He pretty much left conquered peoples on their own, as long as they paid the tributes, and he included women in his councils. Also his DNA is found everywhere.

He was progressive on issues other than the issue of “Do people have the right to live if I think that I can terrify another city into surrendering by massacring them”. Also, if you killed a family member of his, he’d genocide you.

He was also really anti-gay. No, seriously. But he did establish what is thought to be the first real freedom of religion anywhere, and yeah, if you just surrendered that was what he wanted, he didn’t actually ever choose battle when surrender was offered.

172 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:06:55am

re: #166 Vicious Babushka

There was a slogan or a quote (don’t know who it’s attributed to, probably various different individuals) going around back in the day: “Whoever is not a liberal in his youth has no heart; whoever is not a conservative in his old age has no brain” or something like that.

IIRC, that’s often attributed to Churchill, on shaky evidence. It’s also BS.

173 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:09:01am

re: #169 Decatur Deb

Under extreme circumstances, conserving a threatened system could make temporary sense. That’s not true for a world that’s changing at an accelerating pace. Adapt (intelligently) or perish.

Yeah. And the ways we’ll have to change are larger. For example, the financial markets are demonstrably an evolutionary system. They have a selection pressure, and it rewards highly risky strategies and penalizes safe, conservative ones. This would be true even if we didn’t do stuff like the no-strings-attached bailout.

There is no way a static set of regulations can manage an evolutionary system. We have to evolutionary regulations as well. Try writing that into law.

174 iossarian  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:11:37am

re: #172 Decatur Deb

IIRC, that’s often attributed to Churchill, on shaky evidence. It’s also BS.

On the other hand, Alan Grayson said Newt Gingrich was a “stupid person’s idea of what a smart person looks like”.

The non-Churchill slogan plays into the conservative mindset that it’s OK that their policies are really shitty towards people because “it’s the only alternative, any smart person can see that”.

See also: Scalia, Antonin.

175 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:12:14am

re: #173 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

…snip
There is no way a static set of regulations can manage an evolutionary system. We have to evolutionary regulations as well. Try writing that into law.

An amendable, interpretable constitution is a good place to start.

176 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:13:09am

re: #109 Bulworth

And Obamacare/PPACA eliminates the ability of insurers to deny policies for pre-existing conditions - so it benefits those who are sick - chronic or acute long term conditions like, say, cancers, diabetes, or any other long term condition.

177 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:14:45am

re: #164 Decatur Deb

Hit a ‘liberalism’ plateau around 1969, have been slowly getting more lefty ever since. Seemed to accelerate a bit around 2007.

I often wonder if John McCain “won” the presidency instead of dubyah, would the progressive movement achieved the same level of acceleration as it has over the last decade or so? Food for thought…..

178 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:17:47am

re: #175 Decatur Deb

An amendable, interpretable constitution is a good place to start.

Yeah, but we can’t amend the constitution every time the financial whizz-kids come up with another way to add risk while disguising it.

179 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:21:52am

re: #170 iossarian

It’s a false Winston Churchill quotation!

winstonchurchill.org

FAKE QUOTE!!!!

180 BigPapa  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:22:32am

re: #166 Vicious Babushka

There was a slogan or a quote (don’t know who it’s attributed to, probably various different individuals) going around back in the day: “Whoever is not a liberal in his youth has no heart; whoever is not a conservative in his old age has no brain” or something like that.

It’s a classic Simpleton Canard loved by conservatives that has no reference to reality. I was more conservative in my youth until I woke up under the guidance of more educated peers.

Conservatism at any age relies on a lack of brains and a whole lot of fear.

181 iossarian  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:24:20am

re: #180 BigPapa

It’s a classic Simpleton Canard loved by conservatives that has no reference to reality. I was more conservative in my youth until I woke up under the guidance of more educated peers.

Conservatism at any age relies on a lack of brains and a whole lot of fear.

Or money. If you’re the guy at the top of the pile, conservative politics make a whole lotta sense.

182 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:25:11am

re: #180 BigPapa

It’s a classic Simpleton Canard loved by conservatives that has no reference to reality. I was more conservative in my youth until I woke up under the guidance of more educated peers.

Conservatism at any age relies on a lack of brains and a whole lot of fear.

Wingnuts luvs ‘em some FAKE QUOTES. For some reason they think a meme has authority if it’s attributed to Some Famous Dude.

Even after I point out to them that Famous Dude never uttered that Fake Quote, they’re all like “Well it stands on its own HURR HURR UR A LIBRUL RETARD!!”

183 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:25:21am

re: #176 lawhawk

And Obamacare/PPACA eliminates the ability of insurers to deny policies for pre-existing conditions - so it benefits those who are sick - chronic or acute long term conditions like, say, cancers, diabetes, or any other long term condition.

And that is also a step towards re-establishing worker mobility in the employment system. I know of numerous people who have resisted changing jobs or going into independent contracting or business for themselves due to worries about being able to continue decent health coverage at something approaching a reasonable cost.

184 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:35:37am

re: #172 Decatur Deb

IIRC, that’s often attributed to Churchill, on shaky evidence. It’s also BS.

I’ve also seen it attributed to Disraeli & Burke.

185 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:39:42am

DERP


Which I responded:

186 CriticalDragon1177  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:41:28am

re: #28 Gus

What is Game of Thrones?

Its a TV series on HBO. I haven’t watched the show, but I’m surprised that no one else here seems to have heard of it. Its very popular, from what I understand

en.wikipedia.org

hbo.com

187 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:42:30am

re: #180 BigPapa

It’s a classic Simpleton Canard loved by conservatives that has no reference to reality. I was more conservative in my youth until I woke up under the guidance of more educated peers.

Me too. But I was “conservative” because I was apolitical and conservatives are better salespersons. My views were largely left of center, but I actually voted for the GOP because I was a bumpersticker voter. As I become informed and better read, I realized the truth.

188 CriticalDragon1177  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:45:46am

re: #185 Vicious Babushka

Unfortunately it seems women getting raped in our military is really common. Its made even more upsetting by the fact that people risking their lives to defend our country and than are assaulted by their fellow soldiers. Its bad enough, the enemy is trying to kill them, as you would expect, but to than have the men fighting along side them, sexually assault them.

189 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:49:53am

[Clunk]

191 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:52:28am

re: #190 Gus

Mississippi governor: Educational troubles began when ‘mom got in the workplace’

Yeah, ‘cuz education in Appalachia circa 1890’s was such an apex of academic achievement.

192 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:52:55am

re: #185 Vicious Babushka

DERP

Yeah. Bring a revolver with you to the frat party. Bring a revolver with you when you’re out clubbing or to the bar. Bring a revolver with you EVERYWHERE and the second, the moment you “THINK” you might get raped you pull out your revolver! What a life that would be aye?

193 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:52:59am

re: #190 Gus

Mississippi governor: Educational troubles began when ‘mom got in the workplace’

And mom got in the workplace because the GOP made sure daddy’s paycheck could no longer support a family of four.

194 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:54:34am

Don’t these same assholes venerate the family farm, where the women worked just as much as the men?

195 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:56:13am

GEEZ BRYAN, MAYBE SHE JUST DOESN’T WANT TO GET ALL THE GAY PR0N AND V1AGR@ SPAM THAT YOU GET.

196 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:56:28am

re: #192 Gus

Yeah. Bring a revolver with you to the frat party.

Firearms and drunk college aged-kids; what could possibly go wrong?

Let Darwin take over. Thin the herd.

197 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:56:59am

re: #191 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Yeah, ‘cuz education in Appalachia circa 1890’s was such an apex of academic achievement.

Abortion? Women’s fault. Head of household income? Women’s fault. Adultery? Women’s fault. Education? Women’s fault. You see. All of our modern problems are largely caused by women’s equality and feminism. We need to bring back biblical values to the family and society. Women at this point are destroying America much the same as homosexuals.
— Republican

198 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:58:09am

re: #194 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Don’t these same assholes venerate the family farm, where the women worked just as much as the men?

And the irony here being that one of the first traditional jobs for women in America was teaching in that one room schoolhouse.

199 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:58:31am

So I guess it all started with Rosie the riveter. WWII.

200 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:58:52am

Women should have stayed at home during WWII.
— Republican

201 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 8:59:15am
202 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:00:28am

Dorothy Rabinowitz has started something.


203 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:01:13am

re: #201 Dr. Matt

Before the whargble, those committed instead of jailed actually tend to be imprisoned longer.

204 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:03:03am

re: #195 Vicious Babushka

GEEZ BRYAN, MAYBE SHE JUST DOESN’T WANT TO GET ALL THE GAY PR0N AND V1AGR@ SPAM THAT YOU GET.

And like the whole “IRS visits!” business, this faux scandal doesn’t even have time to put on its shoes before it’s smacked down:

Bush Administration Appointees Also Used ‘Secret E-mail Addresses’

And to really rub salt on the wound?

U.S. Senators and Representatives also typically have non-published e-mail addresses, though Congress exempted itself from Freedom of Information laws. It seems obvious that political figures of both parties would need an unlisted e-mail address that cannot be easily guessed for communications with advisers and colleagues — just as cabinet secretaries private cell phone numbers would not be publicly available, though their main office number would be.

205 darthstar  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:03:12am

re: #201 Dr. Matt

Why not? The 70 year old in Florida who shot his wife’s employee/lover/former roommate who had her face tattooed on his back was acquitted on SYG.

206 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:03:23am

re: #203 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Before the whargble, those committed instead of jailed actually tend to be imprisoned longer.

He’s not going to see daylight again either way.

207 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:03:55am


208 BigPapa  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:06:08am

Liberals duped by good satire:

Texas legislator drops marijuana cigarette while speaking on floor

While speaking during the Texas legislative session, representative Tom Alvin (R) Altruria, dropped something unexpected on the House floor. Upon picking up the item, cameras caught a glimpse of what appeared to be a marijuana cigarette.

He quickly put it back in his pocket as legislators looked on and then continued to speak. Several DPS officers were on hand but did not seem concerned about Rep. Alvin’s possession of an illegal substance.

Ironically, the bill being discussed pertained to decreasing penalties for the possession of small amounts of cannabis. If passed, the bill would change state law and no longer jail those with small amounts and would instead only require a fine.

Rep. Alvin spoke in opposition to the bill stating “marijuana is a deadly and dangerous drug. It ruins people’s lives and is so addictive that people can become hooked on it just by touching it. We have to keep in mind that allowing any steps towards its legalization will ensure that children have access to this drug. Only by keeping it illegal and imposing tough sentences can we continue to ensure that this plant is no longer consumed by people who should not have it.”

The first clue was Altruria.

209 Bulworth  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:06:41am

The Bike Lobby is behind Obamacare, Common Core, and gun control. /

210 GunstarGreen  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:09:39am

re: #90 Eventual Carrion

That was SOP for the Bush administration to discuss torture, why is it so bad now?

Presidenting While Black.

211 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:09:47am

re: #202 wrenchwench

Dorothy Rabinowitz has started something.

They’re nuts. I think it’s all corporate and mainly for people with credit cards and all that jazz. Citibike, aka a Citibank PR move. But I never thought of this being anything totalitarian. I mean, thinking this is totalitarian would be like thinking Starbucks or McDonalds is totalitarian. These people have mental problems.

212 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:10:34am

re: #197 Gus

Abortion? Women’s fault. Head of household income? Women’s fault. Adultery? Women’s fault. Education? Women’s fault. You see. All of our modern problems are largely caused by women’s equality and feminism. We need to bring back biblical values to the family and society. Women at this point are destroying America much the same as homosexuals.
— Republican

If women are the cause of all of society’s ills, why do the black men want them so much?
//// (super black hole massive)

213 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:10:38am

Bike shares = national socialism!

Derp.

214 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:16:36am

Ironic considering what Republicans think of public education. If families are lacking in full-time parenting because both have to go to work it’s because these same fucking Republicans support a system of greed that requires both parents to work in order to pay the bills and essentially live a decent life. Can someone be this stupid? How can someone be this clueless. My mom started working in 1969. Is this a governor or a socially isolated reality TV star?

215 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:20:41am

Single moms too. Republicans hate single moms. But they also hate abortion. They think it’s a woman’s responsibility to “find a husband.” Apparently, men have no responsibility in Republican world. Just show up, make all sorts of demands and order a woman around.

216 GunstarGreen  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:22:23am

re: #214 Gus

Ironic considering what Republicans think of public education. If families are lacking in full-time parenting because both have to go to work it’s because these same fucking Republicans support a system of greed that requires both parents to work in order to pay the bills and essentially live a decent life. Can someone be this stupid? How can someone be this clueless. My mom started working in 1969. Is this a governor or a socially isolated reality TV star?

Recall that a lot of these comments are coming from people who have so much more money than the average American family that their wives have never had to work a day in their lives. As much as we may all snicker at Mrs. Romney’s ‘We had to eat TUNA FISH for god’s sake’ commentary, it’s actually rather revealing — people like that are so far out of touch with what it’s like to actually live like a normal person in this country that having to eat common, every-day food for the peasant class is mind-blowing to them.

217 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:22:35am


The never ending pablum from the idiot brigade.

218 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:23:45am

re: #216 GunstarGreen

Recall that a lot of these comments are coming from people who have so much more money than the average American family that their wives have never had to work a day in their lives. As much as we may all snicker at Mrs. Romney’s ‘We had to eat TUNA FISH for god’s sake’ commentary, it’s actually rather revealing — people like that are so far out of touch with what it’s like to actually live like a normal person in this country that having to eat common, every-day food for the peasant class is mind-blowing to them.

Right. “Good God! The worst day of my life was when, can you believe this. I had a peanut butter sandwich for dinner! I nearly died from the hardship!”

219 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:24:05am

Good afternoon lizards!

This is troubling.

220 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:24:56am

You think those people in Somalia have it bad? Once, I had Ramen noodles for a whole week!

221 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:25:30am

re: #216 GunstarGreen

Recall that a lot of these comments are coming from people who have so much more money than the average American family that their wives have never had to work a day in their lives. As much as we may all snicker at Mrs. Romney’s ‘We had to eat TUNA FISH for god’s sake’ commentary, it’s actually rather revealing — people like that are so far out of touch with what it’s like to actually live like a normal person in this country that having to eat common, every-day food for the peasant class is mind-blowing to them.

And “We ate off an ironing board!”

What utter bullshit. Unless the maid ironed on the kitchen table.

222 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:28:37am
223 GunstarGreen  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:28:39am

re: #218 Gus

Right. “Good God! The worst day of my life was when, can you believe this. I had a peanut butter sandwich for dinner! I nearly died from the hardship!”

First-World Problems is more than just a funny meme.

Heck, I’m middle-class, coming from upper-lower to lower-middle class family, and I frequently find myself boggled at just how thoroughly I do not understand what it’s like to live as my parents and their siblings have had to for most of their lives. I’ve never faced the financial hardships they’ve had to, I’ve never been truly worried about money before. I’ve never had to get up at 3 or 4 in the morning to go to a shit job that I hated just to put food on the table. I consider myself fairly out-of-touch with what it’s like to live a working-class, blue-collar existence, and I don’t have anywhere even remotely close to the kind of money that our modern political class has.

224 darthstar  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:28:41am

re: #216 GunstarGreen

You know what’s really good? Tuna fish sandwiches made with the Wasabi Mayo from Trader Joe’s.

Oh, and Ann Romney is a condescending *-word who probably dragged Mitt’s popularity numbers down every time she opened her mouth.

* = consonant or vowel of your choice…eg: g-word (gopher, godmother, gorgon)

225 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:34:11am

Yeah. He’s right. What in the world was Laura Bush thinking when she went off to work while George was out driving around Texas being a douche nozzle. Totally un-biblical family those two.

//

226 darthstar  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:35:08am

Bradley Manning talk on NOW at present…the poor guy was sleeping naked!

OH MY STARS!!! (upding for getting that reference)

Sleeping naked, really? Hell I do that every night.

227 darthstar  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:36:03am

re: #219 NJDhockeyfan

Good afternoon lizards!

This is troubling.

I think we should bomb Cuba. That’ll show those Syrians.

228 jaunte  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:36:57am

re: #207 wrenchwench

229 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:37:17am

re: #213 Gus

Bike shares = national socialism!

Derp.

Check this:

Dorothy Rabinowitz grew up “very poor” in a two-family house in Queens. Her father, a grocer whose family had been killed by the Nazis, was often agitated. “He would go to refugee agencies every day after the war,” she said. “I would catch him crying.”

You’d think her father’s family had been killed by bicycles.

230 sagehen  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:37:59am

re: #214 Gus

Ironic considering what Republicans think of public education. If families are lacking in full-time parenting because both have to go to work it’s because these same fucking Republicans support a system of greed that requires both parents to work in order to pay the bills and essentially live a decent life. Can someone be this stupid? How can someone be this clueless. My mom started working in 1969. Is this a governor or a socially isolated reality TV star?

My mom started working in the early 1950’s, before she was married. When she agreed to marry dad, it was under the non-negotiable condition (written into their ketuba) that he would pose no objection or obstacles to her career ambitions.

She got that idea from her mother, my grandmother, who’d made the same demand a condition of her marriage to grandpa in 1928.

Homemaker moms are unheard of in my family, for many generations — moms and dads work, grandparents hang around the house raising kids.

231 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:39:50am

re: #229 wrenchwench

Check this:

You’d think her father’s family had been killed by bicycles.

She’s nuts. We have bike shares in Denver. I laid one out on a preliminary site plan for one client. No details. They’re all over the place now. I don’t like the credit card bullshit myself. But it’s not some freaking conspiracy. A true socialist bike share program would involve free bikes all over the place. American bike shares are largely a capitalist venture. What part of capitalism does she not understand?

232 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:39:55am

OH LOOK A LOVE LETTER :)

233 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:40:51am

Lizard Stomp has been stomped.

234 jaunte  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:41:22am

re: #232 Vicious Babushka

Welfare Trash on Bicycles!

235 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:41:28am

re: #232 Vicious Babushka

OH LOOK A LOVE LETTER :)

Oh, that stalker. Yeah, those idiots think we’re on welfare. Right. Welfare.

236 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:44:51am


LOL

237 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:44:54am

re: #229 wrenchwench

Check this:

You’d think her father’s family had been killed by bicycles.

He was. They caught him undoing coat hangers to recycle the wire.

238 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:44:55am

Hating bicycles is a long time hatred for dumb rednecks. You should see the bozos on Liveleak. Apparently, cycling is for liberals or something. Of course, W loves cycling and put together a veterans cycling group together recently. That one is hard to figure because the Becktards think W is a progressive.

239 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:45:32am

re: #235 Gus

Oh, that stalker. Yeah, those idiots think we’re on welfare. Right. Welfare.

They’re convinced everyone left of center is a taker and everyone right of center is a maker.

240 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:45:38am

The same way they ridicule Charles for being a cyclist.

241 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:46:49am

Never been a big cyclist myself since I get terrible bicycle ass but it’s a good hobby. Just did some working out on the bike at the gym. By the way lost 10 pounds since I last weighed myself. Long way to go but this is a great first step.

242 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:47:26am

re: #234 jaunte

Pony-tailed Welfare Trash on Bicycles!

243 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:47:37am

re: #238 Gus

Hating bicycles is a long time hatred for dumb rednecks. You should see the bozos on Liveleak. Apparently, cycling is for liberals or something. Of course, W loves cycling and put together a veterans cycling group together recently. That one is hard to figure because the Becktards think W is a progressive.

hehehe. When I was driving south into the Finger Lakes on Sunday the local Amish/Mennonites were headed to church. Saw multiple one-horse carriages of the standard design. But also at least half a dozen were riding bicycles - including the women folk!

244 Lidane  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:48:41am

re: #238 Gus

Hating bicycles is a long time hatred for dumb rednecks. You should see the bozos on Liveleak. Apparently, cycling is for liberals or something.

Yep. Liberals. Also:

Image: 1946-ronald-reagan.jpg

Heh.

245 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:48:56am

re: #243 Feline Fearless Leader

hehehe. When I was driving south into the Finger Lakes on Sunday the local Amish/Mennonites were headed to church. Saw multiple one-horse carriages of the standard design. But also at least half a dozen were riding bicycles - including the women folk!

Yeah. There’s a big difference between reality and internet wingnut crazies.

246 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:49:42am

re: #238 Gus

Hating bicycles is a long time hatred for dumb rednecks. You should see the bozos on Liveleak. Apparently, cycling is for liberals or something. Of course, W loves cycling and put together a veterans cycling group together recently. That one is hard to figure because the Becktards think W is a progressive.

Bicyclists go right past my house up the mountain almost every day. They make no noise and bother nobody. I prefer them to the rednecks driving by with their suped up pickups roaring by.

247 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:50:19am

They have a weird hatred of long hair and beards too. I nearly fell out of my chair when I read about the one Tea Party lady using the fact that Grover Norquist has a beard as proof that he’s part of the Sharia conspiracy. I mean I dislike Norquist and his tax cuts above all else bullshit as much as the next person but damn the guy’s not a terrorist.

248 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:50:33am

re: #241 HappyWarrior

Never been a big cyclist myself since I get terrible bicycle ass but it’s a good hobby. Just did some working out on the bike at the gym. By the way lost 10 pounds since I last weighed myself. Long way to go but this is a great first step.

Congrats! I’d like to lose 10 pounds. So far I gained one and then lost it. That leaves 9 to go, right?

249 GunstarGreen  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:50:35am

re: #239 HappyWarrior

They’re convinced everyone left of center is a taker and everyone right of center is a maker.

Which is funny because they tend to hold positions like Wendy’s Middle Management, producing nothing but absolutely convinced that they’re the sort of person Atlas Shrugs was talking about.

250 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:50:41am

re: #244 Lidane

Yep. Liberals. Also:

Image: 1946-ronald-reagan.jpg

Heh.

Ha! They need to find “conservative reasons” to love cycling. Back in the day when I was a cyclist the main reason I loved cycling was because it was F-U-N. God these people are whacky.

251 Joanne  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:51:16am

re: #71 Vicious Babushka

I have seen ads for Abilify on network TV. It uses a “cute” cartoon kind of like “Family Guy” and is supposed to be a med for depression, except that you already have to be taking other meds for depression also, and the disclaimer that plays at double speed warns about the side effects yadayadayadaSUICIDALIDEATIONSyadayadayadaALLERGICREACTIONSyadayada
yadaSTROKEyadayadayada.

Geez who would want to take that shit?

Hubby noticed that on one of the pharma ads for some kind of foot fungus, death was just one of the many side effects. He thought that drug might not be the best of ideas.

252 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:51:57am

re: #241 HappyWarrior

Never been a big cyclist myself since I get terrible bicycle ass but it’s a good hobby. Just did some working out on the bike at the gym. By the way lost 10 pounds since I last weighed myself. Long way to go but this is a great first step.

They do make larger seats for those who have bigger rumps.

253 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:52:01am

re: #247 HappyWarrior

They have a weird hatred of long hair and beards too. I nearly fell out of my chair when I read about the one Tea Party lady using the fact that Grover Norquist has a beard as proof that he’s part of the Sharia conspiracy. I mean I dislike Norquist and his tax cuts above all else bullshit as much as the next person but damn the guy’s not a terrorist.

Oh, they’ll hate your guts if they see you with a pony tail. No turning back either with some of the more serious jack holes.

254 jaunte  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:52:06am

re: #251 Joanne

“Some users may experience failure to awaken…”

255 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:52:48am

re: #244 Lidane

Yep. Liberals. Also:

Image: 1946-ronald-reagan.jpg

Heh.

Wow, he looks like he was just a kid. I never seen that picture before.

256 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:52:59am

Cycling is for Democrats; Democrats are liberals; liberals are Nazis; therefore cycling is for Nazis.
— Jonah Goldberg

257 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:53:27am

re: #252 NJDhockeyfan

They do make larger seats for those who have bigger rumps.

I know. I prefer swimming though especially ocean swimming. Sun on me. Salt water on my skin. The sound of the waves. It’s heaven for me.

258 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:54:04am

re: #250 Gus

Ha! They need to find “conservative reasons” to love cycling. Back in the day when I was a cyclist the main reason I loved cycling was because it was F-U-N. God these people are whacky.

Some blog, I think it was Cracked.com, asked why in all movies and TV shows (like Walking Dead) that portray an apocalyptic scenario, everybody is either walking or on some badass souped-up vehicles (where do they get gas?) but nobody is on a bike when IT IS THE MOST LOGICAL MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION.

Maybe “Premium Rush” which portrays bikers as badass (although really, really annoying to drivers and pedestrians) will make bike-riding more acceptable in movies.

Although bike cops still look silly, not badass.

259 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:54:24am

Another version.

Cycling is European; Europe is socialist; Nazis were socialists. Therefore, cycling is for Nazis.
— Internet Loser

260 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:55:29am

re: #248 wrenchwench

Congrats! I’d like to lose 10 pounds. So far I gained one and then lost it. That leaves 9 to go, right?

Yep, and thanks. It juts feels like something finally clicked. Been changing my diet too.

261 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:55:49am

re: #257 HappyWarrior

I know. I prefer swimming though especially ocean swimming. Sun on me. Salt water on my skin. The sound of the waves. It’s heaven for me.

I agree, that is better. Years ago we went to the Outer Banks for a week with my crazy sis-in-law and her husband. He insisted we bring his bicycles so he could ride around the area. That bike never left the house the whole time. He did that then following year as well.

262 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:56:43am

re: #253 Gus

Oh, they’ll hate your guts if they see you with a pony tail. No turning back either with some of the more serious jack holes.

Yeah well they’re just weird. I especially like being told that having a beard is somehow unChristian when every portrait of Christ shows himself with a beard.

263 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:57:00am

Like cyclists, drivers need to be educated one at a time.

facebook.com

264 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:57:28am

re: #261 NJDhockeyfan

I agree, that is better. Years ago we went to the Outer Banks for a week with my crazy sis-in-law and her husband. He insisted we bring his bicycles so he could ride around the area. That bike never left the house the whole time. He did that then following year as well.

I just can’t wait to get my first dip in of the summer. Should be heading up to Ocean City next month.

265 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:57:33am

re: #244 Lidane

Yep. Liberals. Also:

Image: 1946-ronald-reagan.jpg

Heh.

He didn’t need no stinkin’ librul bike helmet…

266 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:58:11am

re: #244 Lidane

Yep. Liberals. Also:

Image: 1946-ronald-reagan.jpg

Heh.

That was before he saw the errors of liberalism though. //

267 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:58:24am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

He didn’t need no stinkin’ librul bike helmet…

He was a lib back then ya know.

268 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:58:55am

My first bike was a banana seat Royce Union. The neighborhood kids along with myself would put the playing cards on the spokes held with a laundry clip to make a motorcycle clacking sound. I made a torch once out of a piece of wood with a metal pipe. Stuffed some cotton at the end and dosed it with alcohol and set it aflame. Other time we’d ride around collecting spit in our mouths to see who could make the biggest spit wad. Socialism!

269 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 10:00:15am

Then you have the renowned liberals, the Wright Brothers, who owned a bike shop and “invented” the airplane. I suppose they were socialists too.

270 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 10:01:14am

re: #267 NJDhockeyfan

He was a lib back then ya know.

Ha! True. At least a Democrat and a labor leader of sorts.

271 Joanne  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 10:01:40am

re: #75 Vicious Babushka

272 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 10:05:28am

re: #271 Joanne

Yeah because straight men just can’t help themselves when they’re around women and gay dudes. Fuck this primitive dickhead and everything he stands for. He should be time deported to 2013 BC. Allowing women and gays to serve is a cornerstone of every modern Western military.

273 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 10:05:52am

re: #269 Gus

Then you have the renowned liberals, the Wright Brothers, who owned a bike shop and “invented” the airplane. I suppose they were socialists too.

I cant find any reference to their political leanings but I did find this newspaper story about their first flight in Kitty Hawk.

Image: wb_1_2_04.jpg

274 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 10:06:40am

re: #273 NJDhockeyfan

I cant find any reference to their political leanings but I did find this newspaper story about their first flight in Kitty Hawk.

Image: wb_1_2_04.jpg

I imagine they were conservative in the old fashioned sense.

275 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 10:06:43am

Uh oh.

276 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 10:09:45am

re: #272 HappyWarrior

Yeah because straight men just can’t help themselves when they’re around women and gay dudes. Fuck this primitive dickhead and everything he stands for. He should be time deported to 2013 BC. Allowing women and gays to serve is a cornerstone of every modern Western military.

Let’s time transport him to Year 0 and watch as he pounds the nails into the hands and feet of that hippie librul who always talking about giving to the poor. Fuck him. Oops.

277 Joanne  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 10:10:39am

re: #105 Vicious Babushka

MOAR DERP

How does reading this stuff not make you insane?

278 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 10:14:28am

re: #213 Gus

Bike shares = national socialism!

Derp.

Car share? Avis, Hertz, National, Alamo, Budget, Fox, Rent-A-Wreck? That’s car rentals.

These idiots are confused by the concept of renting a bicycle for use and thinking that sharing is socialism, when there’s a profit motive involved. Heck, even if this is being run in a nonprofit manner, they’d still want to cover costs - in which case, the company is getting compensated for the use - hardly socialism.

279 Gus  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 10:17:40am

re: #278 lawhawk

Car share? Avis, Hertz, National, Alamo, Budget, Fox, Rent-A-Wreck? That’s car rentals.

These idiots are confused by the concept of renting a bicycle for use and thinking that sharing is socialism, when there’s a profit motive involved. Heck, even if this is being run in a nonprofit manner, they’d still want to cover costs - in which case, the company is getting compensated for the use - hardly socialism.

I know. It’s called Citibike for a reason. It has the Citibank logo on it too. It’s run by Citigroup, Inc.

280 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 10:37:13am

re: #279 Gus

I know. It’s called Citibike for a reason. It has the Citibank logo on it too. It’s run by Citigroup, Inc.

Worst socialism ever.

281 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 10:37:48am

re: #168 Vicious Babushka

Genghis Khan was supposed to be actually progressive for his time. He pretty much left conquered peoples on their own, as long as they paid the tributes, and he included women in his councils. Also his DNA is found everywhere.

I loved this particular episode of Crash Course: Wait for it…The Mongols.

282 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jun 4, 2013 10:47:58am

re: #246 NJDhockeyfan

I prefer them to the rednecks driving by with their suped up pickups roaring by.

My reaction when such vehicles go by? “I’m so sorry about your penis!”


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