1 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 8, 2013 12:54:55pm |
So here we are, a week later, and the GOP’s no closer to a total victory than they were a week ago. In reality, they’re actually losing ground with each day passed, each new poll, and the press slowly growing tired of repeating their talking points.
2 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 12:56:09pm |
Grab the popcorn:
Boehner responding to Obama with statement of his own at 430 pm— Sam Stein (@samsteinhp) October 8, 2013
3 | erik_t Tue, Oct 8, 2013 12:58:24pm |
re: #1 Targetpractice
So here we are, a week later, and the GOP’s no closer to a total victory than they were a week ago. In reality, they’re actually losing ground with each day passed, each new poll, and the press slowly growing tired of repeating their talking points.
Like an idiot, I figured they’d cave like a fruit bat as soon as they saw which way the polling was blowing. Not as if at least half of the GOP has any principles to begin with.
But fool me twice, shame on me.
4 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Oct 8, 2013 12:58:36pm |
6 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:00:59pm |
re: #5 jaunte
I wonder if it will last longer than two minutes.
I wonder how drunk the Human Cheeto Speaker will be?
7 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:01:31pm |
re: #6 Dr Lizardo
I wonder how drunk the
Human CheetoSpeaker will be?
You’re assuming he’s been sober at some point since last Sunday.
8 | klys Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:02:16pm |
re: #4 FemNaziBitch
It sucks. All of it.
I can’t think of any response other than that, since we know very well who is responsible for the shutdown. They need to own it.
9 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:02:59pm |
The GOP has shut down the Congress for a week now based on the simple belief that everyone is not entitled to healthcare. Among other things, Carey’s death is a cautionary tale about what can happen in a nation that systematically ignores the unwell. One is left to wonder whether she had all the social support she needed in a country that not only thinks access to healthcare is a privilege rather than a right, but that also stigmatizes mental illness.
10 | lawhawk Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:03:41pm |
re: #4 FemNaziBitch
Yup. Shutdown has consequences. GOP shutdown affects everything, including death benefits.
Once they get a bit of propaganda or agitprop, they push a bill to “fix” problem, thinking it will lessen pressure to actually pass a budget and deal with the debt ceiling.
11 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:04:37pm |
12 | Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:04:58pm |
re: #4 FemNaziBitch
there was some teabagger from the house on Andrea Mitchell claiming that cutting the delay of death benefits was not the intent of what the republicans did. I wanted to scream “No, you idiot it wasn’t the intent it’s the freaking consequences of your idiocy”
13 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:05:05pm |
re: #10 lawhawk
Yup. Shutdown has consequences. GOP shutdown affects everything, including death benefits.
Once they get a bit of propaganda or agitprop, they push a bill to “fix” problem, thinking it will lessen pressure to actually pass a budget and deal with the debt ceiling.
Intended Consequences?
14 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:05:12pm |
re: #2 Lidane
Grab the popcorn:
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Think we all know how this goes: “President won’t negotiate, that’s not the way it’s done, and I’m going to hold my breath until he says he’ll give me that pony I want for Christmas.”
15 | lawhawk Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:06:33pm |
Gah, banging head against the wall with this one…
.@marineopsguy And they did - which is what the SCt said in upholding the ACA!— lawhawk (@lawhawk) October 8, 2013
16 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:06:48pm |
re: #7 Lidane
You’re assuming he’s been sober at some point since last Sunday.
Heh.
In one sense, I can’t really blame him. If I had to contend with the Teahadis, it’d drive me to drink as well.
At the very least, I’d turn into a chain-smoker. Half a carton a day, easy.
17 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:07:13pm |
RW messaging mayhem is beyond comprehension: Gov't is bad/we're proud to shut it down….but OMG why won't Obama open gov't back up.— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) October 8, 2013
18 | klys Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:07:17pm |
re: #15 lawhawk
Gah, banging head against the wall with this one…
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Your use of logic is uncalled for!
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19 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:08:00pm |
re: #16 Dr Lizardo
Heh.
In one sense, I can’t really blame him. If I had to contend with the Teahadis, it’d drive me to drink as well.
At the very least, I’d turn into a chain-smoker. Half a carton a day, easy.
I would be in psych lock-up/permanent rehab if I was elected to any position in D.C.
20 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:08:04pm |
New meme circulating on FB:
Vets arrested for refusing to leave War Memorial
except it didn’t happen this week.
or in DC…
21 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:09:09pm |
re: #19 FemNaziBitch
I would be in psych lock-up/permanent rehab if I was elected to any position in D.C.
I know myself, and I’d lose my temper pretty quickly, especially with those Congresspeople who are wilfully ignorant.
22 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:09:42pm |
.@rcbvt @SenRandPaul @SteveWorks4You The deficit refers to the budget. Rand Paul said “balance our budget.” Reading is fun!— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) October 8, 2013
23 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:10:00pm |
re: #14 Targetpractice
Think we all know how this goes: “President won’t negotiate, that’s not the way it’s done, and I’m going to hold my breath until he says he’ll give me that pony I want for Christmas.”
Wish they would all really hold their breaths until they either pass out or turn Blue…
24 | klys Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:10:58pm |
re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth
Wish they would all really hold their breaths until they either pass out or turn Blue…
That was one of the best skits on the Daily Show last week. With I think Targetpractice’s representative, if I am remembering things right.
25 | Shiplord Kirel Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:12:56pm |
26 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:14:30pm |
The purge has worked, hasn’t it? There is effectively no Republican party any more: http://t.co/MVleHKBfwG— Andrew Sullivan (@sullydish) October 8, 2013
27 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:15:07pm |
Mission America's Linda Harvey warns that public schools are now “selling gay behavior to kids” http://t.co/c7I2AsgytF— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) October 8, 2013
28 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:16:58pm |
re: #27 FemNaziBitch
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They’re selling it like there’s a white sale at Penneys! And it’s fabulous!!
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*facepalm*
30 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:17:31pm |
BREATHTAKING PROJECTION AND DARVO
Obama just made history as the only president in American history to refuse debt limit negotiations. Not the change America wanted.— Rep. Steve Stockman (@SteveWorks4You) October 8, 2013
32 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:19:03pm |
HHS announces that the WIC program will discontinue issuing benefits at close of business on Tuesday, October 8, 2013.— Sam Stein (@samsteinhp) October 8, 2013
33 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:19:11pm |
re: #30 Vicious Babushka
BREATHTAKING PROJECTION AND DARVO
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Steve, how many times did Bush have to negotiate with Democrats to raise the debt ceiling?
34 | Ian G. Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:19:56pm |
Has Conservopedia updated the definition of “negotiation” to “total acceptance of all of what a tiny hysterical minority of the country wants” yet?
35 | b_sharp Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:20:10pm |
re: #27 FemNaziBitch
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“it’s a backdoor way to get people to give approval to known high-risk, immoral, troubling behavior, …”
Freud would so love to get this woman on a couch…
36 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:21:08pm |
Top conservative economist: Default is a “non-issue” http://t.co/cM51XaZ6eH— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) October 8, 2013
37 | Ian G. Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:22:01pm |
re: #32 Lidane
Butbutbut the real travesty of the shutdown is the park closures. I WANNA SEE OLD FAITHFUL ERUPT!!!! WAAAAAAAA!!!!
38 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:22:07pm |
Rep. Luke Messer (R-IN) is spinning like a top right now on MSNBC.
39 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:22:33pm |
re: #37 Ian G.
Butbutbut the real travesty of the shutdown is the park closures. I WANNA SEE OLD FAITHFUL ERUPT!!!! WAAAAAAAA!!!!
Maybe it doesn’t want to be watched —ever thought of that?????
:0
40 | wrenchwench Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:24:12pm |
Reps Green, Crowley, Lewis, Schkowsky, Grijalva, Ellison, Gutierrez, and me — about to get arrested. http://t.co/o8a8F4WfMc— Charles Rangel (@cbrangel) October 8, 2013
I don’t know what I did that made Vines no longer play for me….
41 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:24:41pm |
re: #36 Lidane
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We’re so headed for a default. Hope folks weren’t actually hoping the GOP would have a moment of sanity before this was all over.
42 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:25:11pm |
GOP logic, part 1:
The shutdown is Obama’s fault!
The shutdown is no big deal!
GOP logic part 2:
Sex is filthy, disgusting and animalistic!
You whould save sex for the person you marry!
43 | Interesting Times Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:25:12pm |
re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth
Rep. Luke Messer (R-IN) is spinning like a top right now on MSNBC.
Is he actually getting tough questions, or just softballs? (which is what I strongly suspect is all boehner will get, assuming he takes questions at all…)
44 | Ian G. Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:26:37pm |
re: #36 Lidane
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When we default and the country turns into some “Mad Max” style wasteland, I get dibs on making dinner out of spineless eggheads like Martin Feldstein who peddle obvious bullshit in order to curry favor with the loons.
45 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:27:24pm |
re: #41 Targetpractice
We’re so headed for a default. Hope folks weren’t actually hoping the GOP would have a moment of sanity before this was all over.
Yep. We’re going to default for no goddamn reason.
The next person who tries to tell me that the Republicans are a serious political party or that they’re the fiscally responsible adults is going to get laughed at. The Republicans have completely capitulated to the economic terrorists in the Tea Party and they’re going to take us all down with them.
46 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:27:38pm |
re: #43 Interesting Times
Is he actually getting tough questions, or just softballs? (which is what I strongly suspect is all boehner will get, assuming he takes questions at all…)
Tough questions. Very tough. But he just kept spinning and denying that what he was saying was what he was actually saying.
Made my head hurt…
47 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:28:04pm |
re: #43 Interesting Times
Is he actually getting tough questions, or just softballs? (which is what I strongly suspect is all boehner will get, assuming he takes questions at all…)
Joy Reid did a pretty good job. Damned w/faint praise when bidding him goodbye.
Four minutes, or 14, or whatever, waiting for Boehner.
48 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:28:58pm |
re: #47 Justanotherhuman
Joy Reid did a pretty good job. Damned w/faint praise when bidding him goodbye.
Four minutes, or 14, or whatever, waiting for Boehner.
Yep, she kept hammering on ACA being tied to the CR and Messer kept changing goalposts.
49 | wrenchwench Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:29:20pm |
Congressman Luis Gutierrez has been arrested at this moment! #trueleadership #CIR13 #timeisnow http://t.co/nLcjAjlErl— United Farm Workers (@UFWupdates) October 8, 2013
People in crowd yelling, “Thank you!” “Yes, we can!” as members of Congress arrested in the name of immigration reform. #CaminoAmericano
— Gabe Ortíz (@TUSK81) October 8, 2013
50 | GlutenFreeJesus Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:29:28pm |
51 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:30:00pm |
52 | wrenchwench Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:31:02pm |
Amazing photo! Hundreds of activists being arrested w Cap in backdrop #timeisnow pic.twitter.com/rSqvoi0RrF… http://t.co/wPeuuFqC1X— United Farm Workers (@UFWupdates) October 8, 2013
Farmworker leader Bruce Goldstein getting arrested at immigration rally @FJED @farmwrkrjustice #timeisnow pic.twitter.com/NVgdFHQk33
— Valentina (@valentinasweet) October 8, 2013
53 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:31:53pm |
awww….Boehner haz a DISAPPOINTMENT with the President.
boo-fucking-hoo…
54 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:31:59pm |
Not really a surprise…
Mexico captures alleged kidnapping gang comprised of federal police
(Reuters) - Mexican authorities said on Tuesday they had detained a gang of 18 suspected kidnappers - the majority of whom were members of the federal police - in the Pacific resort of Acapulco.
“The Mexican government’s national security spokesman, Eduardo Sanchez, said 13 of the 18 men aged between 22 and 32 years old were federal police. The gang is thought to be involved with seven murders and four kidnappings, Sanchez said.
“The suspects were seized on the outskirts of Acapulco by fellow federal police officers after an anonymous tip, Sanchez said in a press conference.”
56 | EPR-radar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:32:15pm |
Boehner is the worst single example of putting party above country since the Slave Power representatives in the 1850s.
I would be astonished if his press conference obliged the slightest revision of this fact.
57 | Ian G. Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:33:09pm |
So let’s assume for the moment that Feldstein and others are right and the government can prioritize payments. I hope Obama has Lew preparing some really Machiavellian shit for when that happens: yes, keep making bond payments, SS payments, medicare and medicaid payments, but nothing for military contractors, no farm subsidies, etc. Cut any highway funding for rural areas.
Let’s see how these brave anti-government warriors do when confronted with the reality of no government.
59 | Interesting Times Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:34:32pm |
re: #58 makeitstop
10 bucks says Boehner takes no questions.
Or if he does, only from chuck todd and fox.
61 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:34:50pm |
re: #45 Lidane
Yep. We’re going to default for no goddamn reason.
The next person who tries to tell me that the Republicans are a serious political party or that they’re the fiscally responsible adults is going to get laughed at. The Republicans have completely capitulated to the economic terrorists in the Tea Party and they’re going to take us all down with them.
Think about this; if we default, the Tea Party will have succeeded where Al Qaeda failed.
Congratulations, guys! Give yourselves a hand. ///
*spit*
62 | makeitstop Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:35:00pm |
Boehner is not even making any sense here. None.
63 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:35:23pm |
No Boehner, that conversation happened LONG AGO and you have blown it.
64 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:35:43pm |
65 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:35:50pm |
re: #57 Ian G.
So let’s assume for the moment that Feldstein and others are right and the government can prioritize payments. I hope Obama has Lew preparing some really Machiavellian shit for when that happens: yes, keep making bond payments, SS payments, medicare and medicaid payments, but nothing for military contractors, no farm subsidies, etc. Cut any highway funding for rural areas.
Let’s see how these brave anti-government warriors do when confronted with the reality of no government.
That’s exactly how I’d do it. But then again, I’m an aficionado of Machiavelli.
66 | HoosierHoops Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:36:24pm |
I found Obama’s stance on the shut-down as a reasonable. The GOP response appears to be off the track.
Sad to say but our only hope maybe is John McCain’s proposal to fund the Gov. until 2014 without strings attached.
HEY GOP! Let the elections determine our course to take as a nation!
And the Tea Party..Fuck you too!
You started out with the mission of saving the USA ( In your minds ) Yet you sit here today with your finger on the button to destroy our nation.
Fuck you again!
67 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:36:55pm |
15 minutes. That’s all Boehner could take.
68 | dog philosopher Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:37:01pm |
didn’t quite make out the boehner statement
69 | makeitstop Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:37:11pm |
The president said ‘unless there’s unconditional surrender by Republicans?’
I watched the whole of Obama’s presser, didn’t hear that.
70 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:37:59pm |
re: #69 makeitstop
The president said ‘unless there’s unconditional surrender by Republicans?’
I watched the whole of Obama’s presser, didn’t hear that.
“Unconditional surrender”? Is that why Democrats have agreed to maintain sequester level funding, despite members of both sides saying it’s bad shit?
71 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:39:06pm |
re: #69 makeitstop
The president said ‘unless there’s unconditional surrender by Republicans?’
I watched the whole of Obama’s presser, didn’t hear that.
Maybe Boehner’s been lurking here at LGF and got my posting a few days ago regarding “unconditional surrender” confused with what President Obama said.
72 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:39:29pm |
oh my, Luke Russert kinda pointing out the self-destruction of the GOP.
74 | jaunte Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:39:53pm |
Boehner gave a lame statement and took two questions before running away; yet the media is puzzled as to why POTUS has no respect for him.
— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) October 8, 2013
75 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:40:39pm |
re: #69 makeitstop
The president said ‘unless there’s unconditional surrender by Republicans?’
I watched the whole of Obama’s presser, didn’t hear that.
That’s because Republicans are now consummate liars.
76 | makeitstop Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:40:59pm |
77 | Ming Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:41:04pm |
re: #56 EPR-radar
Boehner is the worst single example of putting party above country since the Slave Power representatives in the 1850s.
He may simply be putting his own job first.
78 | EPR-radar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:41:16pm |
re: #70 Targetpractice
“Unconditional surrender”? Is that why Democrats have agreed to maintain sequester level funding, despite members of both sides saying it’s bad shit?
GOP projection. It is practically all they are capable of doing, since they are in the near-final stages of Obama derangement syndrome.
The end stage is when they can’t do anything other than say “N****r in the White House” over and over and over again.
79 | Ian G. Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:42:01pm |
Thanks, business community. You could have worked with the centrist technocrat in the White House, but you had to throw a tantrum when he suggested that maybe you should take some responsibility for the implosion of the global economy in 2008. Now the doomsday cult you supported is promising to do something exponentially worse and you have buyers remorse? Go fuck yourselves with a cattle prod.
80 | Decatur Deb Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:42:08pm |
re: #70 Targetpractice
“Unconditional surrender”? Is that why Democrats have agreed to maintain sequester level funding, despite members of both sides saying it’s bad shit?
A week ago, the President should have thrown Boehner an inexpensive bone. Now unconditional surrender sounds about right. Screw him, and try to help your neighbors who really get hurt.
81 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:42:20pm |
GOP seems unable to decide if current crisis is a) no big deal, b) critical leverage to force concessions, or c) caused by Obama.— Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias) October 8, 2013
82 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:42:46pm |
RT .@LiberalPhenom: Well, that was quick. How many minutes was that Boehner presser? || As long as it took him to tell 5 Lies.
— T (@southerntalker) October 8, 2013
83 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:43:30pm |
84 | jaunte Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:43:37pm |
Carl Hiaasen:
7 a.m. You wake up, light a Camel. Read a pink Post-it left on the refrigerator by your wife: “John, don’t ever forget, YOU REALLY ARE THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE!!! Also, we’re out of bagels.”
7:30 a.m. You lie in your tanning bed meditating about the government shutdown, wondering if it was such a brilliant idea to let it happen. You put on some Pink Floyd, “Dark Side of the Moon,” but that doesn’t help.
8:00 a.m. On the ride to Capitol Hill, your driver remarks that there’s not much traffic in the city, no tourists lined up to see money being inked at the Bureau of Engraving and Printing. You smoke another Camel.
8:11 a.m. From the car you call the police to report that some jerk on D Street is selling “Boehner is a Bum” T-shirts — no, wait, he’s giving them away! Worse, he’s wearing a national park ranger’s uniform…
….
nationalmemo.com
85 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:44:14pm |
re: #77 Ming
He may simply be putting his own job first.
And not for the first time…or the second time…
86 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:44:57pm |
pic.twitter.com/EpQK2Vczpu— emilio porompompero (@PoromEmilio) October 8, 2013
87 | Shiplord Kirel Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:45:02pm |
re: #34 Ian G.
Has Conservopedia updated the definition of “negotiation” to “total acceptance of all of what a tiny hysterical minority of the country wants” yet?
That reminds me of an OT.
Among other things, Conservapedia is noted for its attacks on the Theory of Relativity, stupidly conflating it with moral and cultural relativism and dismissing it as a liberal hoax.
It turns out there is a long history of politically framed right-wing attacks on Relativity. I was researching pre-war American fascists the other day and came across an example from Elizabeth Dilling, the noted antisemitic and anti-communist writer whose works play a seminal role in the ideology of the John Birch Society and the rest of what we know today as the hard right.
In A Who’s Who of Radicalism for Patriots (1934), Dilling linked Albert Einstein to various communists and wrote “”married to Russian; his much press-agented relativity theory is supposedly beyond the intelligence of almost everyone except himself.” She also tried to justify the Nazi seizure of Einstein’s property in Germany, claiming it was done because he was a communist.
As a matter of fact, it is a press-generated myth that relativity is beyond the understanding of all but a handful of people, and Einstein certainly never made such a claim himself. Dilling can be excused her ignorance of science (though not her bigotry) but the editors of Conservapedia have no such excuse: Relativity is as firmly established as the velocity of light. Among other things, GPS would not work if relativistic factors were omitted from the calculations.
88 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:45:06pm |
re: #77 Ming
He may simply be putting his own job first.
That’s all he’s been doing. Today was just another plea for Obama to come and save him.
89 | EPR-radar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:45:07pm |
re: #79 Ian G.
Thanks, business community. You could have worked with the centrist technocrat in the White House, but you had to throw a tantrum when he suggested that maybe you should take some responsibility for the implosion of the global economy in 2008. Now the doomsday cult you supported is promising to do something exponentially worse and you have buyers remorse? Go fuck yourselves with a cattle prod.
That what really burns about this budget crap. Obama is prepared to make significant cuts to entitlements, far deeper than many Democrats are comfortable with, if the GOP will accept increased revenue.
The GOP response has been a categorical refusal to raise taxes.
90 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:45:50pm |
pic.twitter.com/wpno2zhDb2— emilio porompompero (@PoromEmilio) October 8, 2013
91 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:47:23pm |
What, men don’t have emotions? I’d be pissed if I were a man.
Disney exec says women are hard to animate because of emotions http://t.co/MgvtWWybZv— Jezebel (@Jezebel) October 8, 2013
92 | CuriousLurker Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:47:34pm |
WTF? Someone seriously ought to Page this:
The Latest Voter Suppression Fad: Two Tiers
Remember this phrase: two-tier voting. You may be hearing more about it.
Officials in Arizona and Kansas are making preparations for elections with two categories of voters. There will be those who provided proof of citizenship when they registered to vote, and will therefore be able to vote in all local, state, and federal elections. And then there will be those who did not provide proof of citizenship when they registered. Those people will only be able to vote in federal contests — if at all. […]
93 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:49:25pm |
re: #92 CuriousLurker
Because “separate but equal” works so well.
Also, the GOP agenda couldn’t be more obvious. They know they’re dying a demographic death, so they’ll do anything to stop the blood loss. You know, except join the real world in 2013.
94 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:50:23pm |
Boehner's definition of “unconditional surrender”: the deal he was trying, one month ago, to get his caucus to pass. http://t.co/FhaiOxuOxv— Josh Barro (@jbarro) October 8, 2013
95 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:50:24pm |
re: #93 Lidane
Because “separate but equal” works so well.
Also, the GOP agenda couldn’t be more obvious. They know they’re dying a demographic death, so they’ll do anything to stop the blood loss. You know, except join the real world in 2013.
Exactly.
I see their endgame as secession.
96 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:50:30pm |
Bernie Sanders up next with Joy Reid.
This outta be really good!
97 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:50:40pm |
re: #92 CuriousLurker
WTF? Someone seriously ought to Page this:
Ah, those that are equal and those that are more equal than others… .
98 | erik_t Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:51:10pm |
re: #56 EPR-radar
Boehner is the worst single example of putting party above country since the Slave Power representatives in the 1850s.
I would be astonished if his press conference obliged the slightest revision of this fact.
Actually, if Boehner were putting party first, he would force through a clean CR so fast your head would spin.
He may be murdering, at this exact moment, in real time, the rump Republican Party as we know it.
99 | dog philosopher Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:51:11pm |
House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio: We can’t raise the debt ceiling without doing something about what’s driving us to borrow more money
the assholes really are going to drive us right over the edge of the fucking cliff
100 | Ming Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:51:11pm |
I really admire President Obama for holding things together these past few years. He’s made progress in many areas, from health care to Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, to sanctions on Iran, to pressure on Syria to destroy its chemical weapons.
I appreciate his willingness to compromise with all kinds of people. But it’s no surprise, given the lunacy of the right wing, that the President now has no choice: he must take a hard line. It is simply NOT OK to threaten a second Great Recession, or worse, when the past national election didn’t go your way. To compromise with such a threat would undermine our entire Constitutional system.
I trust the President is up to the task, taking a hard line to preserve our system of government. But it won’t be easy. I have no doubt that Obama is thinking about one of his predecessors, Abraham Lincoln, who also had no choice but to take a hard line against forces profoundly opposed to his vision of the country.
101 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:51:13pm |
Yes, indeedy.
@AriMelber @chucktodd @WhiteHouse Spkr Boehner just opened door to taxes on the rich. PrezObama is the best a playin poker.— Sid Klum (@SidKlum) October 8, 2013
102 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:51:30pm |
Who “surrenders” in a hostage situation, again? MT @sahilkapur: Boehner says lifting debt ceiling cleanly “unconditional surrender” for GOP.— Matt LeMay (@mattlemay) October 8, 2013
103 | jaunte Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:52:34pm |
re: #93 Lidane
They’re going to hold out for sabotaging the ACA by repealing the individual mandate.
105 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:53:04pm |
hmmmmm.
Her fetus has a court-appointed lawyer. http://t.co/eBONP3JfOy #action #pregnancy #humanrights— RH Reality Check (@rhrealitycheck) October 8, 2013
106 | Decatur Deb Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:53:11pm |
re: #100 Ming
Until he safely watches Hillary sworn in, I’d rather not see the names “Obama” and “Lincoln” in the same sentence.
107 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:54:19pm |
With local counsel and colleagues at the Reproductive Justice Clinic at the NYU School of Law, NAPW is suing for Alicia’s immediate release from custody because they believe that pregnancy shouldn’t be a nine-month suspension of constitutional personhood. If you agree that pregnant women are people, too, stand with them today.
108 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:56:19pm |
The U.S. Supreme Court term opened with bad news for Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli, as the nation’s highest court declined to hear Cuccinelli’s appeal of a ruling striking down Virginia’s anti-sodomy law.Cuccinelli, who is the Republican candidate for governor in Virginia, has advocated strongly in defense of the state’s “crimes against nature” law, which criminalizes oral and anal sex, as a means to protect the public from child sex offenders.
I am concerned of those trying to take advantage of the current chaos.
We have to keep our eye-on-the-ball.
109 | jaunte Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:56:26pm |
Oh, one party in one branch is going to shut down and re-assembe the government of the United States of America bill by bill. Okay.
— pourmecoffee (@pourmecoffee) October 8, 2013
110 | EPR-radar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:57:24pm |
re: #98 erik_t
Actually, if Boehner were putting party first, he would force through a clean CR so fast your head would spin.
He may be murdering, at this exact moment, in real time, the rump Republican Party as we know it.
I certainly hope this ends up causing serious damage to the GOP, but I need to see the corpse firmly interred for at least two consecutive election cycles before I’ll be tempted to dance on the grave.
111 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:57:57pm |
pretty good: Here Are Fox News’ Cliffs Notes For Obama’s Insanely Long Press Conference http://t.co/6kE2bq6tPC via @dorseyshaw— Ben Smith (@BuzzFeedBen) October 8, 2013
112 | wrenchwench Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:58:23pm |
re: #92 CuriousLurker
WTF? Someone seriously ought to Page this:
First step on the way to two tiers of Americans: citizens, and workers who can stay as long as they work, but never vote.
113 | calochortus Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:58:27pm |
re: #108 FemNaziBitch
I am concerned of those trying to take advantage of the current chaos.
We have to keep our eye-on-the-ball.
Well here’s a thought-if you want to protect children, pass a bill protecting children not one outlawing “icky” stuff for everyone.
114 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:59:18pm |
re: #110 EPR-radar
I certainly hope this ends up causing serious damage to the GOP, but I need to see the corpse firmly interred for at least two consecutive election cycles before I’ll be tempted to dance on the grave.
Look on the bright side; there’s a good chance that the Democrats may pull a trifecta - VA, the Senate seat in NJ and the Mayor of NYC.
That may have the effect of causing donors to the GOP to think twice, and if the Tea Party blows up the economy, the Chamber of Commerce will look elsewhere to sink their campaign dollars.
115 | Decatur Deb Tue, Oct 8, 2013 1:59:37pm |
re: #112 wrenchwench
First step on the way to two tiers of Americans: citizens, and workers who can stay as long as they work, but never vote.
Just call them “Alphas” and “Gammas” for simplicity.
116 | EPR-radar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:00:18pm |
re: #111 Lidane
Oddly honest for Fox News. I was expecting the Fox chyron to read “Obama (D-Hell)” and go downhill from there.
117 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:00:36pm |
Boehner to speak at 4:30 pm ET, expected to respond to Obama's remarks on the shutdown & debt ceiling negotiations http://t.co/KHrMxKRxAz— NewsHour (@NewsHour) October 8, 2013
118 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:01:21pm |
I cannot believe this is the Speaker of the House:
Boehner: Clean debt limit would be “unconditional surrender” for GOP http://t.co/WCUxf8a90Z— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) October 8, 2013
We’re on the way to a default for the first time ever and for no goddamn reason at all because this asshole has decided his job is more important than the country.
Fuck him and fuck the GOP sideways.
119 | Shiplord Kirel Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:01:23pm |
re: #90 Charles Johnson
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The wonderfully mysterious Sailing Stones of Death Valley. I went to see these years ago and was completely stumped at how they do it. There are several good hypotheses nowadays. None are proven but my bet is on rafts of wet ice forming under and on the rocks during rare cold spells, reducing friction enough for the wind to move the rocks across the perfectly flat surface. We do know that the movements are rare and fast: The rocks will sit stationary for years then move dozens or even hundreds of feet literally overnight. This is consistent with a sudden, and brief, loss of surface friction. The tracks remain visible because Death Valley is bone dry most of the time.
120 | CuriousLurker Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:01:37pm |
re: #112 wrenchwench
First step on the way to two tiers of Americans: citizens, and workers who can stay as long as they work, but never vote.
Yeah, next they’ll be proposing workers only count as 3/5 of a person.
121 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:01:55pm |
123 | klys Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:03:42pm |
re: #119 Shiplord Kirel
The most plausible explanation in my book is a thin layer of very fine clay remaining after the playa surface gets wet, acting as a lubricant to reduce friction and allow the rocks to slide.
124 | EPR-radar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:03:47pm |
re: #120 CuriousLurker
Yeah, next they’ll be proposing workers only count as 3/5 of a person.
Another RW agenda item is to get some RW stooges on the supreme court to rule that “freedom to contract” trumps the ban on indentured servitude in the 13th amendment.
(edit) This is speculation on my part, but certainly in character for RW nut jobs.
125 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:04:29pm |
re: #124 EPR-radar
Another RW agenda item is to get some RW stooges on the supreme court to rule that “freedom to contract” trumps the ban on indentured servitude in the 13th amendment.
Please tell me that comes from The Onion.
126 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:04:29pm |
re: #112 wrenchwench
First step on the way to two tiers of Americans: citizens, and workers who can stay as long as they work, but never vote.
I’ve reached my limit for the next few decades —you go ahead.
127 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:05:20pm |
re: #113 calochortus
Well here’s a thought-if you want to protect children, pass a bill protecting children not one outlawing “icky” stuff for everyone.
because the act of forced repression has worked so well …
128 | EPR-radar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:05:41pm |
re: #125 Dr Lizardo
Please tell me that comes from The Onion.
It is speculation on my part, expressed too definitely. Will edit.
129 | b_sharp Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:05:52pm |
re: #119 Shiplord Kirel
The wonderfully mysterious Sailing Stones of Death Valley. I went to see these years ago and was completely stumped at how they do it. There are several good hypotheses. None are proven but my bet is on rafts of wet ice forming under and on the rocks during rare cold spells, reducing friction enough for the wind to move the rocks across the perfectly flat surface. We do know that the movements are rare and fast: The rocks will sit stationary for years then move dozens or even hundreds of feet literally overnight. This is consistent with a sudden, and brief, loss of surface friction.
You miss the obvious - extraterrestrial aliens curling.
130 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:06:00pm |
re: #123 klys
The most plausible explanation in my book is a thin layer of very fine clay remaining after the playa surface gets wet, acting as a lubricant to reduce friction and allow the rocks to slide.
MAGNETS!
131 | calochortus Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:06:54pm |
re: #123 klys
The most plausible explanation in my book is a thin layer of very fine clay remaining after the playa surface gets wet, acting as a lubricant to reduce friction and allow the rocks to slide.
But how would that account for the fact that the stones apparently don’t ever quite run into each other? I think the ice hypothesis is the best bet, myself. Shall we go there this winter and stare until something happens?
132 | Decatur Deb Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:06:59pm |
re: #123 klys
The most plausible explanation in my book is a thin layer of very fine clay remaining after the playa surface gets wet, acting as a lubricant to reduce friction and allow the rocks to slide.
Tortoise Olympics.
133 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:07:03pm |
re: #125 Dr Lizardo
Please tell me that comes from The Onion.
I wish, yet I have no doubt there are some Whackos trying to figure every angle.
They keep doing it on Reproductive Choice and Creationism.
134 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:07:18pm |
re: #128 EPR-radar
It is speculation on my part, expressed too definitely. Will edit.
That’s OK.
These days, that sort of thing really wouldn’t surprise me one bit if it were actually true.
135 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:07:33pm |
re: #129 b_sharp
You miss the obvious - extraterrestrial aliens curling.
OMG! YOU ARE RIGHT …soooo obvious.
136 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:08:26pm |
It's sad. GOP cant even decide why they shutdown govt, pushed for default. Obamacare? Debt? Grand bargain? http://t.co/NlgrMNos5i— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) October 8, 2013
137 | klys Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:08:47pm |
re: #131 calochortus
But how would that account for the fact that the stones apparently don’t ever quite run into each other? I think the ice hypothesis is the best bet, myself. Shall we go there this winter and stare until something happens?
I am completely on board with this plan. I have some amazing memories from camping right down the road and watching the meteors flash by the hills around.
I will totally dig out my Geology of Death Valley book later and look up what it summarized again. After I either finish or give up on this semi-numerical proof by inductionWHY DOES GOD HATE ME WHY.
138 | erik_t Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:09:50pm |
Well, we’re going to see what magic rabbit the President has in his hat, because I truly do think he’s got some less-than-legal recourse figured out, and I think he will fall on his sword to avoid the United States defaulting on its debts, and then we’ll get to watch the blackpeachment that the 27% so desperately have been craving for the last half a decade.
It’s going to be absolutely fascinating to watch. Curse each and every Republican member of the House of Representatives for bringing it about.
139 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:12:16pm |
re: #138 erik_t
Well, we’re going to see what magic rabbit the President has in his hat, because I truly do think he’s got some less-than-legal recourse figured out, and I think he will fall on his sword to avoid the United States defaulting on its debts, and then we’ll get to watch the blackpeachment that the 27% so desperately have been craving for the last half a decade.
It’s going to be absolutely fascinating to watch. Curse each and every Republican member of the House of Representatives for bringing it about.
Impeachment would be political suicide for the GOP. I can think of nothing that will galvanize the Democratic Party more and really get their voters out come 2014 more than an impeachment.
Then the GOP will whine if they end up getting their asses handed to them in the mid-terms.
140 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:12:37pm |
McCain on Fox just now: “We Republicans have to have a plan rather than the fool's errand of repealing Obamacare.”— Mike O'Brien (@mpoindc) October 8, 2013
141 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:12:55pm |
Boehner & Co need to stop fucking with this country.
“In this statement, the Obama Administration says it would veto legislation to approve a “supercommittee” working group to negotiate U.S. federal government spending and deficit. The supercommittee was been proposed early Tuesday by Republicans. “
On the other hand, 2014 should be a very good election year for liberals and progressives after the performances of Boehner & Co.
142 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:12:57pm |
The Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Bali, Indonesia, is one of the most important trade meetings of the year. It’s especially important to the United States, which believes that selling products and services to the fast-growing countries of this region is critical to the future. President Obama has been calling for a “pivot” to Asia, reorienting U.S. foreign policy to focus on this key part of the world.If there wasn’t a government shutdown, Obama would be at the center of this photo, probably standing somewhere out front between Presidents Vladimir Putin of Russia (seventh from the right) and Xi Jinping of China (eighth from the left). But the American president’s trip was canceled because of the government shutdown.
143 | erik_t Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:13:29pm |
re: #139 Dr Lizardo
Impeachment would be political suicide for the GOP. I can think of nothing that will galvanize the Democratic Party more and really get their voters out come 2014 more than an impeachment.
Then they’ll whine if they end up getting their asses handed to them in the mid-terms.
You trust Boehner to hold back his caucus? He can’t control them now. What if Obama ends up taking action that is actually factually obviously illegal?
145 | Decatur Deb Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:14:26pm |
re: #141 Justanotherhuman
Boehner & Co need to stop fucking with this country.
“In this statement, the Obama Administration says it would veto legislation to approve a “supercommittee” working group to negotiate U.S. federal government spending and deficit. The supercommittee was been proposed early Tuesday by Republicans. “
On the other hand, 2014 should be a very good election year for liberals and progressives after the performances of Boehner & Co.
Not unless we bust our humps. Voter suppression and the confederate bloc aren’t going away on their own.
146 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:14:31pm |
re: #143 erik_t
You trust Boehner to hold back his caucus? He can’t control them now. What if Obama ends up taking action that is actually factually obviously illegal?
No, I don’t trust Boehner.
But it’ll never get past the Senate; it’s an exercise in abject futility.
147 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:15:35pm |
re: #145 Decatur Deb
Not unless we bust our humps. Voter suppression and the confederate bloc aren’t going away on their own.
We’ve been busting our humps for years—nothing different.
148 | You_Stole_Fizzy-Lifting_Drinks Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:16:11pm |
re: #143 erik_t
You trust Boehner to hold back his caucus? He can’t control them now. What if Obama ends up taking action that is actually factually obviously illegal?
How is it illegal? The executive is charged with spending money that Congress has already appropriated, and if he doesn’t, he’s acting unconstitutionally. It is Congress’s job to provide the funds, and because of the Anti-Impoundment act, he is legally required to spend every single penny. So, if the debt limit is reached, he is required to service the debt and spend any money that is part of any mandatory appropriations that are passed by Congress. The conflict comes in with his mandate to spend that money, and the debt ceiling, which is clearly unconstitutional.
149 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:16:51pm |
McCain, expressing “sympathy” for House “contradictions” preventing Boehner from acting, offers to be negotiating partner for WH— John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) October 8, 2013
150 | calochortus Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:18:05pm |
re: #137 klys
NASA apparently thinks wind alone isn’t quite enough to move the rocks
But no one knows for sure.
151 | Decatur Deb Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:19:01pm |
re: #147 Justanotherhuman
We’ve been busting our humps for years—nothing different.
The new Alabama voter ID law will absorb every bit of work Wife and I can do. We are starting behind where we were in 2011.
153 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:19:41pm |
re: #149 Lidane
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Because that worked out so well in Libya and Benghazi and Syria and Egypt…
154 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:21:34pm |
bwhahaaaa!
Ed Schultz just said that Brother Conlon has announced that the trucker strike in DC was just a ploy to get media attention and the truckers strike has been canceled….
155 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:21:38pm |
re: #149 Lidane
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John, I know that men of your advanced years may have trouble remembering some things, so I’ll remind you: YOU LOST! What’s more, your party wanted nothing to do with you after you did.
156 | klys Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:22:29pm |
re: #150 calochortus
NASA apparently thinks wind alone isn’t quite enough to move the rocks
But no one knows for sure.
Worth noting that both the ice collars and likely reduction in the friction due to the fine clay at the surface likely play a role. :)
I gotta dig out my pictures from that trip too - some really nifty tracks. Unfortunately predates the good camera, but at some point we’ll get back there again. Need to do Saline Valley too for the hot springs, although apparently the roads aren’t in the best shape right now because of wet weather in July.
157 | erik_t Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:23:05pm |
re: #148 You_Stole_Fizzy-Lifting_Drinks
How is it illegal? …
Maybe it’s not. I do not claim to be a lawyer.
158 | Ming Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:24:26pm |
re: #106 Decatur Deb
Until he safely watches Hillary sworn in, I’d rather not see the names “Obama” and “Lincoln” in the same sentence.
A bit off-topic, but since I care so much about the 2016 election, I must say that I’m not enthusiastic about Hillary. I desperately hope the Democrats come up with an alternative to her in 2016. Much like they did in 2008.
The Republicans have alienated too many demographics. The Democrats “should” win in 2016. But they have to be very careful. I think a long series of televised debates, much like what the Democrats did in 2008, may be an ideal vetting process. Maybe that process was a tad too long in 2008. But I wouldn’t shorten it too much.
159 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:25:08pm |
160 | Decatur Deb Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:25:39pm |
re: #156 klys
Worth noting that both the ice collars and likely reduction in the friction due to the fine clay at the surface likely play a role. :)
I gotta dig out my pictures from that trip too - some really nifty tracks. Unfortunately predates the good camera, but at some point we’ll get back there again. Need to do Saline Valley too for the hot springs, although apparently the roads aren’t in the best shape right now because of wet weather in July.
When the Moon is full at perigee, it exerts additional forces on the rocks. It’s the tides—no one knows how it works.
161 | calochortus Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:26:11pm |
re: #156 klys
Oh, absolutely, friction reduction is important-I kind of took that as a given. When I was there you could see where idiots had pushed some rocks around and of course it plowed a sharp furrow in the playa, not that nice smooth track.
162 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:26:37pm |
re: #160 Decatur Deb
When the Moon is full at perigee, it exerts additional forces on the rocks. It’s the tides—no one knows how it works.
The rocks glide left, the rocks glide right……you can’t explain that!
163 | Decatur Deb Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:27:07pm |
re: #158 Ming
A bit off-topic, but since I care so much about the 2016 election, I must say that I’m not enthusiastic about Hillary. I desperately hope the Democrats come up with an alternative to her in 2016. Much like they did in 2008.
The Republicans have alienated too many demographics. The Democrats “should” win in 2016. But they have to be very careful. I think a long series of televised debates, much like what the Democrats did in 2008, may be an ideal vetting process. Maybe that process was a tad too long in 2008. But I wouldn’t shorten it too much.
Since I can’t have Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders or Angus King she’ll do.
164 | klys Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:28:33pm |
re: #161 calochortus
Oh, absolutely, friction reduction is important-I kind of took that as a given. When I was there you could see where idiots had pushed some rocks around and of course it plowed a sharp furrow in the playa, not that nice smooth track.
And also, their footprints right next to it.
That was a fun trip. We got a flat tire out by the Eureka sand dune and actually had a ranger pull up to see if we were ok (these are not horrible but not fantastic dirt roads).
Once they saw that we had the full size spare tire, green goo, and portable air compressor, not to mention the car already up on the jack and the tire off, they felt pretty good about leaving us to our own devices. :) The green goo worked well enough to let us keep using that tire, which was good because we weren’t going to head out to the Racetrack if we’d already had to use the full size spare.
165 | calochortus Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:28:35pm |
re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth
bwhahaaaa!
Ed Schultz just said that Brother Conlon has announced that the trucker strike in DC was just a ploy to get media attention and the truckers strike has been canceled….
In a news update October 8, reps indicate that “The comments to U.S. News were designed to do one thing and one thing only: stir the feather of the mainstream media.” They added that “Nothing gets the attention like the mainstream media, like some sort of disastrous threat. I knew it was going to ruffle some feathers.”
And yet, the vast majority of coverage was on wingnut media.
166 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:29:10pm |
Wowza, I go out for a run and return to 1268 comments on today's piece … http://t.co/GWJOzfuNnH— davidfrum (@davidfrum) October 8, 2013
167 | Patricia Kayden Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:29:21pm |
re: #140 Lidane
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So the Republicans have shut down the government and threatened to default on the debt ceiling but have no plan except the impossible task of defunding/repealing the ACA?
Got it.
168 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:31:28pm |
Really, who the fuck does Cruz think he is? Does he think that an endorsement by Sarah Fucking Palin elevated him to some lofty position, that as a newby senator he even has the chops to shine the shoes of Harry Reid? And I’ve never been that fond of Reid, but goddamn, who the hell are these people?
Cruz, Reid exchange barbs on whether to debate government funding
Read more: thehill.com
“Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) accused Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) of not wanting to debate “piecemeal” House funding measures.
“Cruz asked for unanimous consent to engage in a colloquy with Reid on Tuesday in order for the two to attempt to negotiate a deal to reopen at least parts of the federal government.”
Just how fucking dense is Cruz anyway?
169 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:32:52pm |
170 | Mattand Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:33:10pm |
re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth
bwhahaaaa!
Ed Schultz just said that Brother Conlon has announced that the trucker strike in DC was just a ploy to get media attention and the truckers strike has been canceled….
We (and by ‘we’, I mean ‘I’) demand links.
Too funny.
171 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:33:36pm |
re: #168 Justanotherhuman
Really, who the fuck does Cruz think he is? Does he think that an endorsement by Sarah Fucking Palin elevated him to some lofty position, that as a newby senator he even has the chops to shine the shoes of Harry Reid? And I’ve never been that fond of Reid, but goddamn, who the hell are these people?
Cruz, Reid exchange barbs on whether to debate government funding
Read more: thehill.com
“Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) accused Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) of not wanting to debate “piecemeal” House funding measures.
“Cruz asked for unanimous consent to engage in a colloquy with Reid on Tuesday in order for the two to attempt to negotiate a deal to reopen at least parts of the federal government.”
Just how fucking dense is Cruz anyway?
What dense? He knows he world runs best when the white guy is in charge
172 | Decatur Deb Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:35:14pm |
re: #171 FemNaziBitch
What dense? He knows he world runs best when the white guy is in charge
When they drop the facade, the TPGOP thinks so too.
175 | calochortus Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:36:05pm |
re: #164 klys
Sounds nice. I went on a college field trip there for a week in January of 19somethingsomething-(way too long ago) Also hit the Alabama Hills and an area just south of Saline Valley. Pull off the road in obscure locations kind of camping. Probably wouldn’t be able to do it now. When we toured Scotty’s Castle the poor tour guide kept pointing out he could throw us out if we were rowdy. We were scruffy, but well behaved.
176 | klys Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:36:07pm |
And now, the grocery store calls, because while the government may be shut down, digestive systems have not…
177 | RadicalModerate Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:37:49pm |
Breaking news headline from CNN:
TL;DR version:
“Boehner: We refuse to release any hostages”
178 | goddamnedfrank Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:37:54pm |
Holy shit!
The California Republican Party is throwing the full weight of its political muscle behind an effort to repeal the state’s ban on discrimination against transgender kids. According to BuzzFeed’s Tony Merevik, far-right conservatives and tea party operatives have made overturning the recent protections enacted for transgender teens in public schools the center of the party platform.
Un-fucking believable. People wondered if the GOP could get any meaner or more cartoonishly evil, and they took it as a challenge. They’re actually going to make bullying tran-kids the primary plank of their statewide push for office.
179 | calochortus Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:39:02pm |
180 | Decatur Deb Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:39:23pm |
re: #175 calochortus
Sounds nice. I went on a college field trip there for a week in January of 19somethingsomething-(way too long ago) Also hit the Alabama Hills and an area just south of Saline Valley. Pull off the road in obscure locations kind of camping. Probably wouldn’t be able to do it now. When we toured Scotty’s Castle the poor tour guide kept pointing out he could throw us out if we were rowdy. We were scruffy, but well behaved.
Had Wetumpka Crater been defined in 19something? We drove up and down its remaining wall for years without knowing it.
181 | erik_t Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:39:50pm |
re: #178 goddamnedfrank
Holy shit!
Un-fucking believable. People wondered if the GOP could get any meaner or more cartoonishly evil, and they took it as a challenge. They’re actually going to make bullying tran-kids the primary plank of their statewide push for office.
The California Republican Party, long regionally marginalized by its own short-sighted and boorish actions, has offered for some time a window through which one might look at the national party ten or twenty years hence.
Nothing new under the sun.
182 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:39:55pm |
re: #168 Justanotherhuman
Just how fucking dense is Cruz anyway?
Reminder: Texas Lt. Gov David Dewhurst is even dumber than Cruz. If he was smarter, Dewhurst would be a Senator right now.
183 | calochortus Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:41:32pm |
re: #178 goddamnedfrank
Holy shit!
Un-fucking believable. People wondered if the GOP could get any meaner or more cartoonishly evil, and they took it as a challenge. They’re actually going to make bullying tran-kids the primary plank of their statewide push for office.
The CA GOP has been reduced to a parody of its former self. They’ve got nothing. They had hoped a supermajority in the legislature and control of the executive would make the Democrats overreach, but it hasn’t happened so far. Things seem to be improving economically, the government hasn’t gone wildly to the left. What else have they got?
184 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:41:34pm |
ZOMG RINO!
It was an honor to meet w/ Pres. Obama today at the WH, along with a small group of journalists. Appreciate his time.— Robert Costa (@robertcostaNRO) October 8, 2013
185 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:42:07pm |
re: #178 goddamnedfrank
Holy shit!
Un-fucking believable. People wondered if the GOP could get any meaner or more cartoonishly evil, and they took it as a challenge. They’re actually going to make bullying tran-kids the primary plank of their statewide push for office.
If the GOP gets anymore cartoonishly evil, they’ll have no choice but to run this fellow for President in 2016:
186 | GOPHostage#25698724 Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:43:15pm |
re: #178 goddamnedfrank
Holy shit!
Un-fucking believable. People wondered if the GOP could get any meaner or more cartoonishly evil, and they took it as a challenge. They’re actually going to make bullying tran-kids the primary plank of their statewide push for office.
The FULL weight? All 1.2 ounces? EDIT (and declining)
187 | piratedan Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:44:18pm |
re: #185 Dr Lizardo
Maybe they can dig up Simon Bar-Sinister as his running mate…..
188 | calochortus Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:44:26pm |
re: #180 Decatur Deb
Had Wetumpka Crater been defined in 19something? We drove up and down its remaining wall for years without knowing it.
Interesting. Apparently not. 19something would be 1973.
189 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:45:10pm |
When the National Review guy says this, you know things are worse on the ground:
Inside House GOP, saying “super cmte” or “grand bargain” is like saying “Voldemort” @ Hogwart's; aides trying to erase phrases from coverage— Robert Costa (@robertcostaNRO) October 8, 2013
Just stopped by Sen: lots of GOP incoherence re: default/when it happens, whether Boehner debt-limit team is the preferred next step
— Robert Costa (@robertcostaNRO) October 8, 2013
191 | RadicalModerate Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:45:50pm |
re: #182 Lidane
Reminder: Texas Lt. Gov David Dewhurst is even dumber than Cruz. If he was smarter, Dewhurst would be a Senator right now.
I’m actually thinking that Cruz becoming senator might have been a blessing in disguise. Otherwise, we would not have seen the antics of Dewhurst on the Texas Legislature floor this summer, and Wendy Davis becoming a rapidly-rising star in the state - and it’s pretty certain she wouldn’t be running for Governor with the huge boost that she’s gotten.
192 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:46:20pm |
193 | abolitionist Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:46:23pm |
re: #185 Dr Lizardo
If the GOP gets anymore cartoonishly evil, they’ll have no choice but to run this fellow for President in 2016:
No way— he looks too much like Lincoln.
194 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:47:10pm |
195 | goddamnedfrank Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:48:15pm |
Really, everyone with access to HBO should try to watch or DVR Valentine Road sometime in the next week or so. Some of the opinions expressed by a few teachers and jurors will disgust you, but it’s directly on point with the victim blaming that the CA GOP is attempting to legitimize.
196 | jamesfirecat Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:49:50pm |
Just upgraded my iPad to the new system, everything looks all new and futuristic but can’t find the option to search a page for a given bit of test anymore….
197 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:51:33pm |
198 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:51:37pm |
Sandoval is a Republican.
Sandoval: Nevada faces catastrophe if government shutdown persists
199 | aagcobb Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:52:21pm |
re: #41 Targetpractice
We’re so headed for a default. Hope folks weren’t actually hoping the GOP would have a moment of sanity before this was all over.
I still refuse to believe that Boehner is stupid enough to actually allow a default to happen. I’ll believe it when I see it, and I hope to God I don’t.
200 | BongCrodny Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:52:31pm |
re: #185 Dr Lizardo
If the GOP gets anymore cartoonishly evil, they’ll have no choice but to run this fellow for President in 2016:
First, Snidely would have to give up his Canadian citizenship.
Oh, sorry, my bad — he already did!
201 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:55:56pm |
Ladies and gents, The Stupid Party:
SIREN: Coburn is about to use a pair of giant cardboard scissors to “cut up” a poster size “US Government Credit Card” on the Senate floor— Caroline Wren (@CarolineWren) October 8, 2013
202 | aagcobb Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:56:09pm |
re: #57 Ian G.
So let’s assume for the moment that Feldstein and others are right and the government can prioritize payments. I hope Obama has Lew preparing some really Machiavellian shit for when that happens: yes, keep making bond payments, SS payments, medicare and medicaid payments, but nothing for military contractors, no farm subsidies, etc. Cut any highway funding for rural areas.
Let’s see how these brave anti-government warriors do when confronted with the reality of no government.
If I could, I would stop all federal payments, social security, medicare, everything, to anyone with an address in Boehner’s congressional district. That should end this shit in about five minutes.
203 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:57:09pm |
re: #199 aagcobb
I still refuse to believe that Boehner is stupid enough to actually allow a default to happen. I’ll believe it when I see it, and I hope to God I don’t.
It’s not up to Boehner anymore. He’s lost control of the House GOP and there are enough Republican dipshits in both the House and Senate who buy into the “Default Is No Big Deal” fail.
We’re fucked, and for no reason at all.
204 | erik_t Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:57:17pm |
re: #201 Lidane
Ladies and gents, The Stupid Party:
[Embedded content]
TOM, YOU CAN’T CUT UP THE CREDIT CARD YOU USED TO BUY YOUR BOAT AND THEN KEEP YOUR BOAT.
205 | aagcobb Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:57:34pm |
re: #62 makeitstop
Boehner is not even making any sense here. None.
That is kind of what happens when you stake out a nonsensical position.
206 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:57:52pm |
re: #203 Lidane
It’s not up to Boehner anymore. He’s lost control of the House GOP and there are enough Republican dipshits in both the House and Senate who buy into the “Default Is No Big Deal” fail.
We’re fucked, and for no reason at all.
Sadly, it’s starting to look like just that.
207 | piratedan Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:58:15pm |
re: #199 aagcobb
to paraphrase a line from Dune “we have the likes of DERP that not even God himself has ever seen1”
I waver between either these guys have some truly Machiavellian whisperers in their ears who have some plan that has yet to be revealed (i.e. like shorting on the Government itself in the financial markets in order to profit financially or generating a Constitutional crisis as a means to an end) or that we have some of the most myopic short sighted tools ever elected to public office that have no end game other than to be in toddler mode.
208 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 2:59:52pm |
re: #207 piratedan
I’m hearing that in Stilgar’s voice, LOLOL.
209 | EPR-radar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:00:41pm |
re: #203 Lidane
It’s not up to Boehner anymore. He’s lost control of the House GOP and there are enough Republican dipshits in both the House and Senate who buy into the “Default Is No Big Deal” fail.
We’re fucked, and for no reason at all.
It actually is up to Boehner, if there really are enough D + R votes in the House for a clean CR.
Since Boehner has not brought a clean CR up for a vote, one assumes that this is because it would pass.
The Republican dipshits are only part of the problem. The rest of the problem is their enabling by cravens like Boehner et al.
210 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:01:01pm |
re: #207 piratedan
some of the most myopic short sighted tools ever elected to public office that have no end game other than to be in toddler mode
So the Tea Party, then?
211 | aagcobb Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:01:03pm |
re: #203 Lidane
It’s not up to Boehner anymore. He’s lost control of the House GOP and there are enough Republican dipshits in both the House and Senate who buy into the “Default Is No Big Deal” fail.
We’re fucked, and for no reason at all.
It is up to him. He can waive the Hastert Rule and pass a clean debt limit increase with Democrats and a few Republicans. He has to understand that its the end of the GOP if he triggers a global financial meltdown. But he has to wait until the last minute to do it to appease enough of the crazies to keep his speakership.
212 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:01:51pm |
Meanwhile, over in Bizzaroworld:
Gold Exec Reassures Fox Viewers The Debt Limit Fight Won’t Ruin The Economy (VIDEO)
After President Obama expressed frustration at a Tuesday news conference about the ongoing debate over the budget and debt ceiling, Fox News host Neil Cavuto brought on a gold company executive to reassure viewers that everything would be OK.
Craig Smith, the chairman of gold sellers Swiss America, told viewers that the President’s warnings that the economy could be thrown into turmoil if Congress refuses to raise the nation’s debt ceiling were vastly overblown.
“It just amazes me,” said Smith. “We are not going to default on the debt.”
213 | ProTARDISLiberal Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:02:49pm |
re: #212 Targetpractice
Part of me wants Fox News shutdown for seditious and treasonous actions.
214 | piratedan Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:03:01pm |
re: #210 Lidane
I suppose so, cue the stuffed animals and imaginary friends….
215 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:03:04pm |
re: #212 Targetpractice
Meanwhile, over in Bizzaroworld:
Gold Exec Reassures Fox Viewers The Debt Limit Fight Won’t Ruin The Economy (VIDEO)
Gee. Now why would a guy who sells gold try to mollify the rubes on Fox?
216 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:03:08pm |
re: #211 aagcobb
It is up to him. He can waive the Hastert Rule and pass a clean debt limit increase with Democrats and a few Republicans. He has to understand that its the end of the GOP if he triggers a global financial meltdown. But he has to wait until the last minute to do it to appease enough of the crazies to keep his speakership.
That’s definitely a theory. If he throws in the towel now, the Teahadis will seek nothing less than his head on a platter. If he waits until the last possible moment, then he can claim ‘I had no choice but to do this in order to save the US economy’ or something along those lines.
217 | jaunte Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:03:35pm |
re: #212 Targetpractice
Craig Smith, the chairman of gold sellers Swiss America
Sure, you can trust him for macroeconomic advice.
218 | Decatur Deb Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:04:14pm |
Off to a little AME church to learn how to put our Mad Obamacare Skilz to use. BBL
219 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:04:16pm |
re: #215 Lidane
Gee. Now why would a guy who sells gold try to mollify the rubes on Fox?
Hasn’t the whole point to selling gold to the rubes been in case of events like this? Interest rates spike, the price of gold spikes, and they all become gazillionaires.
220 | EPR-radar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:04:36pm |
re: #216 Dr Lizardo
That’s definitely a theory. If he throws in the towel now, the Teahadis will seek nothing less than his head on a platter. If he waits until the last possible moment, then he can claim ‘I had no choice but to do this in order to save the US economy’ or something along those lines.
That won’t cut any ice at all with the gibbering Teabagger loons, and Boehner knows it.
Like most cowards, his sense of self-preservation is his only talent.
221 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:05:03pm |
re: #212 Targetpractice
Yeah, a goldbug - about as serious an economist as some madman who writes his political manifestos with his own feces.
LOL. Typical FNC.
222 | Mattand Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:06:08pm |
re: #216 Dr Lizardo
That’s definitely a theory. If he throws in the towel now, the Teahadis will seek nothing less than his head on a platter. If he waits until the last possible moment, then he can claim ‘I had no choice but to do this in order to save the US economy’ or something along those lines.
I cannot even fathom what kind of mindset it requires to risk global economic disaster, just so you can keep your Speakership.
223 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:06:29pm |
re: #220 EPR-radar
That won’t cut any ice at all with the gibbering Teabagger loons, and Boehner knows it.
Like most cowards, his sense of self-preservation is his only talent.
And that’s the other side of things.
Boehner is a coward, and it would seem, a fool as well.
224 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:06:53pm |
re: #222 Mattand
I cannot even fathom what kind of mindset it requires to risk global economic disaster, just so you can keep your Speakership.
An extremely petty and self-centered one.
225 | wrenchwench Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:07:17pm |
re: #222 Mattand
I cannot even fathom what kind of mindset it requires to risk global economic disaster, just so you can keep your Speakership.
One word: selfish.
Add as many superlatives as you wish.
226 | EPR-radar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:07:18pm |
re: #221 Dr Lizardo
Yeah, a goldbug - about as serious an economist as some madman who writes his political manifestos with his own feces.
LOL. Typical FNC.
There’s a thought for the 2016 GOP platform committee. It might even be viewed by teabaggers as providing authenticity.
227 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:07:53pm |
re: #226 EPR-radar
There’s a thought for the 2016 GOP platform committee. It might even be viewed by teabaggers as providing authenticity.
LOL.
228 | ProTARDISLiberal Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:08:23pm |
I didn’t think I could have a lower opinion of Republicans.
They make me sick.
229 | BongCrodny Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:08:25pm |
I understand that Vegas billionaire Sheldon Adelson is supporting this guy:
re: #185 Dr Lizardo
If the GOP gets anymore cartoonishly evil, they’ll have no choice but to run this fellow for President in 2016:
I understand that billionaire Sheldon Adelson is already supporting this guy:
230 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:08:27pm |
re: #219 Targetpractice
Hasn’t the whole point to selling gold to the rubes been in case of events like this? Interest rates spike, the price of gold spikes, and they all become gazillionaires.
You’re presuming some sort of coherent strategy. Heh.
231 | RadicalModerate Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:09:03pm |
A story to warm the hearts of the Doctor Who fans out there, just in time for the 50th anniversary:
BBC to reveal a number of missing Doctor Who episodes
A number of early episodes of Doctor Who, which were believed to have been permanently lost, have been returned to the BBC.
BBC Worldwide is expected to confirm the find at a press screening in London later this week.
It follows weeks of speculation that some lost episodes had been located.
A total of 106 episodes featuring the first two actors to play the Doctor, William Hartnell and Patrick Troughton, are currently missing.
The BBC destroyed many of the sci-fi drama’s original transmission tapes in the 1960s and 1970s.
However, the majority of the episodes had been transferred on to film for foreign broadcasters. It is often these prints found in other countries that are the source of retrieved episodes.
Reports are that most of the missing stories from the Troughton era are now complete, and a significant number of Hartnell stories were found as well.
232 | EPR-radar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:09:49pm |
re: #178 goddamnedfrank
Holy shit!
Un-fucking believable. People wondered if the GOP could get any meaner or more cartoonishly evil, and they took it as a challenge. They’re actually going to make bullying tran-kids the primary plank of their statewide push for office.
The CA GOP, largely freed from the burdens associated with governance, can serve as a model for the nation in terms of its purity and devotion to conservative principles. //
233 | Single-handed sailor Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:10:00pm |
If, as the GOP suggests, 80% of government is still running and a debt default won’t cause a problem, why do they think it gives them any leverage to demand concessions from the President?
234 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:10:35pm |
re: #233 Single-handed sailor
If, as the GOP suggests, 80% of government is still running and a debt default won’t cause a problem, why do they think it gives them any leverage to demand concessions from the President?
Because WW2 Memorial! Freedom! Eleventy!
235 | ProTARDISLiberal Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:11:19pm |
re: #231 RadicalModerate
I would be, but I am more worried the Republicans will default, which could screw me over later in life.
237 | EPR-radar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:11:46pm |
Meanwhile, some goon at RedState is nattering on about the “little Eichmanns” of the National Park Service.
238 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:12:15pm |
re: #229 BongCrodny
He’ll make a great Senator, I’m sure.
One of my former students, who now works for the Czech National Bank - the central bank here - told me a short while ago that a mounting sense of panic is starting to take hold at the office.
She was asking me questions as though I have anything to do with US economic policy. Flattering, but not much I can say, to be honest.
I just told her it’s because a segment of one of our two major political parties has gone violently insane. She’s frankly flabbergasted that there’s Teahadis who think a debt default would be “no big deal”.
239 | Shiplord Kirel Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:13:35pm |
re: #232 EPR-radar
The CA GOP, largely freed from the burdens associated with governance, can serve as a model for the nation in terms of its purity and devotion to conservative principles. //
I’ve never met such stone-hearted bastards as I did in the CA Republican Party. Texas Tealiban are mostly just ignorant, California Tealiban are consciously, gleefully evil.
240 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:13:48pm |
re: #231 RadicalModerate
Nice.
As an aside, the Japanese anime “Project A-ko” will likely never be released on BlueRay. Why is that?
The original print of the film has been misplaced, and no one seems to know where it is. They’ve looked high and low, and they just can’t find it.
241 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:14:12pm |
re: #237 EPR-radar
Meanwhile, some goon at RedState is nattering on about the “little Eichmanns” of the National Park Service.
Because the biggest problem in all this is that people can’t go to Yellowstone or the WW2 Memorial.
What a bunch of overly entitled First World Problem having dipshits. If you care more about national parks and monuments the TOTAL ECONOMIC COLLAPSE we’re facing next week, then fuck off.
242 | Kragar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:15:15pm |
So I wore a suit today for probably the first time in the last 11 years.
243 | BongCrodny Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:16:03pm |
re: #238 Dr Lizardo
He’ll make a great Senator, I’m sure.
One of my former students, who now works for the Czech National Bank - the central bank here - told me a short while ago that a mounting sense of panic is starting to take hold at the office.
She was asking me questions as though I have anything to do with US economic policy. Flattering, but not much I can say, to be honest.
I just told her it’s because a segment of one of our two major political parties has gone violently insane. She’s frankly flabbergasted that there’s Teahadis who think a debt default would be “no big deal”.
I like the three primary talking points right now. They’re covering their asses for every possibility:
1) Nothing will happen, and
2) Even if it does, it won’t be that bad, and
3) Even if it’s bad, it’s all Obama’s fault.
Derp trifecta!
244 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:16:17pm |
re: #242 Kragar
So I wore a suit today for probably the first time in the last 11 years.
Did the nice orderly be sure not to make the straps too tight?
//
245 | Single-handed sailor Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:16:24pm |
re: #242 Kragar
So I wore a suit today for probably the first time in the last 11 years.
I wore a suit once, in 1991, for my wedding.
246 | AlexRogan Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:16:55pm |
re: #222 Mattand
I cannot even fathom what kind of mindset it requires to risk global economic disaster, just so you can keep your Speakership.
Political power’s a hell of a drug…
/apologies to Rick James and Dave Chappelle
247 | jaunte Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:17:07pm |
Krugman:
“Republicans don’t care about the debt and never did, they only pretended to as an excuse to slash social insurance programs.”
krugman.blogs.nytimes.com
248 | Kragar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:17:15pm |
re: #244 Targetpractice
Did the nice orderly be sure not to make the straps too tight?
//
Nah, once I dislocated my shoulder, it slid right off.
/
249 | EPR-radar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:17:31pm |
re: #243 BongCrodny
I like the three primary talking points right now. They’re covering their asses for every possibility:
1) Nothing will happen, and
2) Even if it does, it won’t be that bad, and
3) Even if it’s bad, it’s all Obama’s fault.Derp trifecta!
Of course. When one severs the connection between reality and ones statements, one is liberated to produce talking points to cover all possibilities.
250 | BongCrodny Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:17:54pm |
re: #242 Kragar
So I wore a suit today for probably the first time in the last 11 years.
…and boy, are my arms tired!
No, wait — that’s not it.
251 | Shiplord Kirel Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:18:52pm |
re: #237 EPR-radar
Meanwhile, some goon at RedState is nattering on about the “little Eichmanns” of the National Park Service.
Didn’t we crucify a certain faux-Indian professor for that back in ‘05?
252 | EPR-radar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:19:03pm |
re: #247 jaunte
Krugman:
“Republicans don’t care about the debt and never did, they only pretended to as an excuse to slash social insurance programs.”
krugman.blogs.nytimes.com
It’s a pity that Krugman didn’t make the point that all through the W Bush years, the GOP deliberately ran up the debt in order to eventually use it as an excuse to gut entitlements.
253 | EPR-radar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:19:31pm |
re: #251 Shiplord Kirel
Didn’t we crucify a certain faux-Indian professor for that back in ‘05?
IOKIYAR
254 | piratedan Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:19:49pm |
re: #240 Dr Lizardo
well as long as they can do Cowboy BeBop I think that we’ll still be on the plus side, but ymmv as far as iconic anime may be concerned.
255 | dog philosopher Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:20:19pm |
re: #242 Kragar
So I wore a suit today for probably the first time in the last 11 years.
i’m getting fitted for a trump suit
256 | Mattand Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:20:50pm |
re: #238 Dr Lizardo
He’ll make a great Senator, I’m sure.
One of my former students, who now works for the Czech National Bank - the central bank here - told me a short while ago that a mounting sense of panic is starting to take hold at the office.
She was asking me questions as though I have anything to do with US economic policy. Flattering, but not much I can say, to be honest.
I just told her it’s because a segment of one of our two major political parties has gone violently insane. She’s frankly flabbergasted that there’s Teahadis who think a debt default would be “no big deal”.
I labor under the impression that much of the civilized world looks at us like the heavily armed neighbor who scares the shit out of them when he’s on his meds.
It’s embarrassing as an American to see how this is playing out. I might be using the word wrong, but it’s seems like the GOP has gone from ultra conservative to straight out suicidal nihilism.
Someone else mentioned yesterday that this level of crazy took them by surprise; that they didn’t think the Tea Baggers were capable of this. I’ve often said that if the Republicans win back control of the country like they had from 2001-2007, we’re fucked.
I’m beginning to see now that I severely underestimated how fucked up these people are when I made those statements. There’s, what? 50 of them, 80 at most, causing this chaos?
Can you imagine having one of these psychos in the White House?
257 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:21:59pm |
re: #254 piratedan
“Cowboy BeBop” is certainly a classic. Shame about “Project A-ko”, thus far at least; I’d love to get that on BlueRay.
258 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:22:11pm |
re: #216 Dr Lizardo
That’s definitely a theory. If he throws in the towel now, the Teahadis will seek nothing less than his head on a platter. If he waits until the last possible moment, then he can claim ‘I had no choice but to do this in order to save the US economy’ or something along those lines.
At what point do the non-radicals in the GOP House want his head since a bunch of them are probably not in safe gerrymandered districts? Their re-election chances are going further and further down the drain along with the GOP brand the longer they allow Boehner to keep the hostage crisis running.
259 | EPR-radar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:22:26pm |
re: #239 Shiplord Kirel
I’ve never met such stone-hearted bastards as I did in the CA Republican Party. Texas Tealiban are mostly just ignorant, California Tealiban are consciously, gleefully evil.
CA free market fundamentalists are a puzzle —- after the energy deregulation disaster, one would think that anyone with even the most remote grasp of reality would accept the necessity of at least some regulation of business.
260 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:23:25pm |
re: #256 Mattand
If the Teahadis get hold of power, America is finished.
It will become something like a cross between Galt’s Gulch and the Republic of Gilead.
261 | piratedan Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:24:27pm |
re: #257 Dr Lizardo
I hear ya, but I only have so much cash I can toss at my anime collection per the much better half, so I have to be very careful on what I drop my dimes on.
262 | Kragar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:24:55pm |
re: #260 Dr Lizardo
If the Teahadis get hold of power, America is finished.
It will become something like a cross between Galt’s Gulch and the Republic of Gilead.
If a teahadi gets a hold of power, they’ve shown us how to deal with them. Ignore them and just play by your own rules.
263 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:25:04pm |
re: #258 Feline Fearless Leader
RIght now they’re showing unity. That unity may begin to fray big time by next Monday, I’m thinking.
264 | EPR-radar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:25:22pm |
re: #256 Mattand
“Death cult” is more and more appropriate as a description for the teabaggers.
Moderate Republicans that enable these evil people need to face facts about what they are supporting with their mindless party loyalty.
265 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:26:06pm |
re: #262 Kragar
If a teahadi gets a hold of power, they’ve shown us how to deal with them. Ignore them and just play by your own rules.
Heh. But if we ignore them, that’s treason.
Sick, sick bastards.
266 | EPR-radar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:26:53pm |
re: #261 piratedan
I hear ya, but I only have so much cash I can toss at my anime collection per the much better half, so I have to be very careful on what I drop my dimes on.
My day gets a little brighter whenever I play a DVD that is sufficiently old that I can just skip the FBI warning and go directly to the top menu.
267 | Kragar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:27:05pm |
John Boehner accuses Obama of asking for ‘unconditional surrender by Republicans’
Obama: “Put the gun down before you hurt yourself John.”
Boehner: “Screw you! You’re next!”
268 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:27:06pm |
re: #264 EPR-radar
“Death cult” is more and more appropriate as a description for the teabaggers.
Moderate Republicans that enable these evil people need to face facts about what they are supporting with their mindless party loyalty.
The Tea Party; Al Qaeda meets People’s Temple.
269 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:28:04pm |
re: #261 piratedan
I try to restrain myself. Even though I’m single, I try not to spend too much on the anime collection.
270 | piratedan Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:28:37pm |
re: #266 EPR-radar
I have a few of those too…. it’s like sitting down and visiting with an old friend.
271 | EPR-radar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:29:12pm |
re: #268 Dr Lizardo
The Tea Party; Al Qaeda meets People’s Temple.
Right now, its about 100% Al Qaeda and 0% People’s Temple. I hope this balance flips, not-lethally, such that at least the teabagger version of movement conservatism ends up forever discredited.
273 | piratedan Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:30:10pm |
re: #269 Dr Lizardo
well I have to admit, I’m a sucker for a good romantic/comedy but most any good story will do if the animation and voice acting isn’t a total trainwreck although I tend to prefer watching them subbed versus dubbed.
275 | EPR-radar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:31:18pm |
re: #269 Dr Lizardo
I try to restrain myself. Even though I’m single, I try not to spend too much on the anime collection.
You know you have too many DVDs etc. when those dinky little specialty DVD storage solutions are completely pointless. On the other hand, bookcases work well.
276 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:31:36pm |
re: #273 piratedan
well I have to admit, I’m a sucker for a good romantic/comedy but most any good story will do if the animation and voice acting isn’t a total trainwreck although I tend to prefer watching them subbed versus dubbed.
Lately, I’ve been watching “Black Lagoon”, “Welcome to the NHK” and “MariaHolic”.
All subbed…..I can understand Japanese pretty good, but it’s gotten rusty.
277 | ProTARDISLiberal Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:33:33pm |
re: #263 Dr Lizardo
What about a different negotiation?
Talk to Pete Kings and his handful, and talk to McCain and his handful.
See if we can’t encourage a breakaway among people like King, who are in relatively safe seats.
We only need a breakaway of 16-20 House Rs, and another 5-6 Senators.
That looks to be doable. As for leadership in the House, we can just reenact what happened for the position of President pro Tempore of the Senate between 1911-1913.
From August 14, 1911 to March 3, 1913, the office of President pro tempore of the United States Senate for the 62nd Congress rotated among five individuals. The sitting Senate President pro tempore William P. Frye resigned due to ill health on April 27, 1911. The Senate at that time was split between progressive Republicans, conservative Republicans, and Democrats. Each put forth a candidate, and the ballots were deadlocked until August when a compromise was reached. Democratic candidate Augustus Bacon served as pro tempore for one day on August 14, 1911, and thereafter he and four Republicans rotated holding the seat for the remainder of the 62nd Congress.
The Speaker of the House would rotate between the Break-Offs, and the Democrats until the next election. Once every few months.
278 | piratedan Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:35:16pm |
re: #276 Dr Lizardo
I enjoyed Black Lagoon, was a terrific blend of mayhem and soulfulness about one’s place in the world.
last series I picked up was a one cour Nazo X Kanojo, probably will pop for Working! and Servant X Service around the holidays. Trying to sift through the new fall season to see which shows I’ll follow online.
279 | AlexRogan Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:35:17pm |
re: #275 EPR-radar
You know you have too many DVDs etc. when those dinky little specialty DVD storage solutions are completely pointless. On the other hand, bookcases work well.
I don’t bother with DVD jewel cases or racks; I just keep mine in a big disc notebook.
280 | aagcobb Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:35:33pm |
re: #242 Kragar
So I wore a suit today for probably the first time in the last 11 years.
Funeral or wedding?
281 | Balfour Rage Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:36:51pm |
@SenTedCruz Why is the guy who has never written any legislation let alone have go into law is always the one who complains. Ass Clown
— gary l. deaton (@garyldeaton) October 7, 2013
282 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:38:12pm |
re: #277 ProTARDISLiberal
I don’t know how well that would work. Politics is far more polarized now.
283 | Mattand Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:38:26pm |
re: #258 Feline Fearless Leader
At what point do the non-radicals in the GOP House want his head since a bunch of them are probably not in safe gerrymandered districts? Their re-election chances are going further and further down the drain along with the GOP brand the longer they allow Boehner to keep the hostage crisis running.
I wandered over to my former* Congressman Jon Runyan’s (R-NJ) FB page earlier. I was curious to see what’s going on over there. Seems to be half-and-half of ‘Pass a clean CR now” and “Keep up the good fight.”
There’s enough support for the shutdown for Runyan to comfortably walk back his earlier support for a clean CR.
Think about that for a minute. This is New Jersey; say what you will about us, but one thing we don’t have is a major Tea Bag infestation. From what I’m seeing, Runyan could help Boehner tank the economy and odds are he’d probably be easily re-elected.
Imagine what’s going on in Tea Party districts like Cruz’s or Ted Yoho’s in FL.
There’s a fairly sizable chunk of our own citizens who want their representatives to precipate a global economic disaster. Then factor in the DF’s of the country; the ‘moderate’ team players who shrug and go “Eh. Whaddya gonna do?”
We’re in trouble, kids. Maybe I’ve been reading too much Josh Marshall over at TPM, but man; this does not look good.
I hope I’m wrong. I will gladly accept any rotten tomatoes that are flung my way. But, fuck me. If Obama is counting on ‘independents’ and ‘moderate’ Republicans to do what’s right for the US, he might be as delusional as the Tea Baggers.
*We got gerrymandered out of his district, since our town was the source of most of the Democratic support.
284 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:38:58pm |
re: #281 Balfour Rage
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And the future of healthcare in CruzWorld for 99% of the populace is “Get back to work you lazy good-for-nothing, you’re not sick!”
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285 | aagcobb Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:39:07pm |
re: #259 EPR-radar
CA free market fundamentalists are a puzzle —- after the energy deregulation disaster, one would think that anyone with even the most remote grasp of reality would accept the necessity of at least some regulation of business.
Puzzle solved.
286 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:39:58pm |
re: #278 piratedan
I enjoyed Black Lagoon, was a terrific blend of mayhem and soulfulness about one’s place in the world.
last series I picked up was a one cour Nazo X Kanojo, probably will pop for Working! and Servant X Service around the holidays. Trying to sift through the new fall season to see which shows I’ll follow online.
What gets me with “Black Lagoon” is the otaku who are all like, “Oh, Revy’s so hot!”…….Revy’s a mentally unstable, nihilistic psychopathic mass-murderer who’s been killing people since she was a child.
That’s not sexy. That’s pants-shitting terrifying.
287 | ProTARDISLiberal Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:40:03pm |
re: #282 Dr Lizardo
20 House Rs. That’s it.
288 | Balfour Rage Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:40:08pm |
I think Gov. Perry (R-Planet Wingnut) is the antichrist, but Cruz is the first alternate:
@SenTedCruz what are wait times like when you have no insurance?
— Crutnacker (@Crutnacker) October 8, 2013
289 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:41:04pm |
re: #281 Balfour Rage
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Ted’s speaking like an assclown who’s never seen the inside of an ER.
290 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:42:16pm |
re: #286 Dr Lizardo
What gets me with “Black Lagoon” is the otaku who are all like, “Oh, Revy’s so hot!”…….Revy’s a mentally unstable, nihilistic psychopathic mass-murderer who’s been killing people since she was a child.
That’s not sexy. That’s pants-shitting terrifying.
All the women in Black Lagoon are scary.
291 | piratedan Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:42:50pm |
re: #286 Dr Lizardo
well I did enjoy the mayhem, but I also thought that the self examination by the other two leads was noteworthy but part of the was because of the conflict that a psychopath like Revy introduced into their world. Kind of the “yeah, she’s psycho, but she does have a point and that scares me that I just acknowledged that” vibe that constantly was running trough the show, like what is moral, what is ethical and who am I to decide what those things are….
292 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:43:45pm |
re: #290 Targetpractice
All the women in Black Lagoon are scary.
Yes, they are. Roberta was a trip. LOL.
293 | dog philosopher Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:43:48pm |
‘Hurting the wrong people’: Families mourn fallen soldiers while fighting for benefits
oh indeed - then who are the ‘right’ people to hurt?
294 | EPR-radar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:44:47pm |
re: #291 piratedan
well I did enjoy the mayhem, but I also thought that the self examination by the other two leads was noteworthy but part of the was because of the conflict that a psychopath like Revy introduced into their world. Kind of the “yeah, she’s psycho, but she does have a point and that scares me that I just acknowledged that” vibe that constantly was running trough the show, like what is moral, what is ethical and who am I to decide what those things are….
I’m not as caught up on anime/manga as I would like, but Hellsing probably remains very hard to beat in terms of mayhem.
295 | aagcobb Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:45:35pm |
re: #293 dog philosopher
‘Hurting the wrong people’: Families mourn fallen soldiers while fighting for benefits
oh indeed - then who are the ‘right’ people to hurt?
Blah people.//
296 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:45:37pm |
re: #291 piratedan
Very true.
One thing I caught instantly was in a conversation between Revy and Dutch, where he mentions her “….going Charles Whitman” and implying its what she does when she’s attracted to someone.
297 | Balfour Rage Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:45:39pm |
re: #283 Mattand
I live in a deep, deep red county in Texas (Montgomery County; just north of Harris County which is where Houston is) and they are absolutely full metal wingnut around here in their support of Cruz, Tea Party, et al. I had a back-and-forth with a wingnut cousin (this cousin, by the way, without any evidence whatsoever believes that Harry Reid “stole” his election from Sharon Angle.) about the ACA last week, and he really believes that Cruz is about principle. I replied that principle argument is bullshit considering that Cruz’s PAC was holding a $2500-a-plate fundraiser with a live feed of Cruz’s 21-hour tantrum on the Senate floor, therefore the entire episode was a fundraising scheme/red meat for the base and nothing more. That shut him up.
298 | dog philosopher Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:46:21pm |
either we will go over the deth ceiling cliff or boehner will sei a mensch, bite the bullet, and endanger his job
300 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:47:24pm |
re: #281 Balfour Rage
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301 | Kragar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:48:05pm |
re: #288 Balfour Rage
@SenTedCruz Healthcare under GOP: “YOU GET NOTHING. GET OFF MY LAWN!”— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) October 8, 2013
302 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:48:15pm |
re: #294 EPR-radar
I’m not as caught up on anime/manga as I would like, but Hellsing probably remains very hard to beat in terms of mayhem.
“You’re strong now, so no more being a medic. Here, use this anti-tank rifle!”
;)
303 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:48:43pm |
re: #301 Kragar
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Healthcare under GOP: “If they’re going to die, then they had better do it! And decrease the surplus population!”
304 | Balfour Rage Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:49:25pm |
re: #301 Kragar
Need health insurance? MAKE MORE MONEY!!!
305 | EPR-radar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:49:33pm |
re: #302 Feline Fearless Leader
“You’re strong now, so no more being a medic. Here, use this anti-tank rifle!”
;)
Of course, the anti-tank rifle was basically a set of training wheels for use until she learned to really cut loose.
306 | klys Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:50:01pm |
re: #303 Targetpractice
Healthcare under GOP: “If they’re going to die, then they had better do it! And decrease the surplus population!”
Healthcare under GOP: If you aren’t skilled enough to justify your employer paying your health insurance, you don’t deserve to have any because you have no economic worth.
308 | Kragar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:50:46pm |
re: #307 aagcobb
Job interview?
Talking to recruiters/headhunters, trying to find a position up in Los Angeles
309 | EPR-radar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:51:13pm |
re: #303 Targetpractice
Healthcare under GOP: “If they’re going to die, then they had better do it! And decrease the surplus population!”
And people objected when Alan Grayson said this:
The Republicans’ health care plan for America: “Don’t get sick.” That’s right — don’t get sick. If you have insurance, don’t get sick; if you don’t have insurance, don’t get sick; if you’re sick, don’t get sick — just don’t get sick! That’s what the Republicans have in mind for you, America. That’s the Republicans’ health care plan. But I think that the Republicans understand that that plan isn’t always going to work — it’s not a foolproof plan. So the Republicans have a backup plan, in case you do get sick. If you get sick in America, this is what the Republicans want you to do. If you get sick, America, the Republican health care plan is this: “Die quickly.” That’s right. The Republicans want you to die quickly if you get sick.
310 | piratedan Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:51:26pm |
re: #294 EPR-radar
I not as caught up on anime/manga as I would like, but Hellsing probably remains very hard to beat in terms of mayhem.
depends on your mayhem factor I suppose….
I mean on one side you have FLCL and something like School Rumble although you could probably classify the later as more manic than mayhem. I regards to violence the possibilities are endless but titles like Gungrave certainly come to mind as well as Deadman Wonderland and Mirai Nikki. For psychological mind twisters, I would state that Paranoia Agent really fits the bill, as does Death Note
still, that’s what I like about anime, rules can be busted although I have to admit, I can’t make some of the intuitive leaps that some series demand.
311 | Stoatly Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:51:55pm |
re: #170 Mattand
We (and by ‘we’, I mean ‘I’) demand links.
Too funny.
UPDATE
Conlon is now telling the Washington Post that his plans to block traffic on the Beltway are actually just a gigantic act of trolling. “The comments to U.S. News were designed to do one thing and one thing only: stir the feather of the mainstream media,” Conlon told the Post. “Nothing gets the attention of the mainstream media like some sort of disastrous threat. I knew it was going to ruffle some feathers.”
Bolding mine
312 | aagcobb Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:52:34pm |
re: #308 Kragar
Talking to recruiters/headhunters, trying to find a position up in Los Angeles
Good luck!
313 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:53:07pm |
re: #310 piratedan
depends on your mayhem factor I suppose….
I mean on one side you have FLCL and something like School Rumble although you could probably classify the later as more manic than mayhem. I regards to violence the possibilities are endless but titles like Gungrave certainly come to mind as well as Deadman Wonderland and Mirai Nikki. For psychological mind twisters, I would state that Paranoia Agent really fits the bill, as does Death Note
still, that’s what I like about anime, rules can be busted although I have to admit, I can’t make some of the intuitive leaps that some series demand.
Paranoia Agent was one of the most brilliant anime I’ve ever seen.
RIP, Satoshi Kon. He was a visionary.
314 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:57:43pm |
315 | piratedan Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:58:34pm |
re: #313 Dr Lizardo
If you liked his work, I would urge you to pick up a copy of Paprika, I think it was his best feature, at least his most cohesive one
316 | lawhawk Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:58:43pm |
.@thehill .@PeteSessions This #GOP acting different than every other GOP in history by threatening default if Ds don't accept their threats— lawhawk (@lawhawk) October 8, 2013
A few people responding to that noted the dog whistle… yeah, this is the GOP alright. Extreme and proud of their insouciance, intolerance, and lack of empathy for anyone who may rely on the safety net including their own constituents.
317 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 3:59:32pm |
re: #315 piratedan
If you liked his work, I would urge you to pick up a copy of Paprika, I think it was his best feature, at least his most cohesive one
I have Paprika on BlueRay. One of the best anime films of all time, in my book.
318 | ProTARDISLiberal Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:00:05pm |
Okay, out of curiosity, how livable is Indonesia?
319 | darthstar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:00:25pm |
Okay…looks like it's about time for people to start hating Yellin. #Reason43WhyWeCannotHaveNiceThings— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) October 8, 2013
320 | psddluva4evah Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:01:27pm |
Obama to nominate Janet Yellen as Fed chair: http://t.co/pVWnkFdxWi— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) October 8, 2013
321 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:01:44pm |
re: #316 lawhawk
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Such utter horseshit. Where was this concern for the debt when they were setting up Medicare Part D, passing two tax cut packages, leading us into two unnecessary wars, and refusing any sort of talk about tackling the debt?
322 | piratedan Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:02:00pm |
re: #317 Dr Lizardo
agreed, talk about effective use of the medium… just wow!!!!!!!…
323 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:02:54pm |
re: #322 piratedan
agreed, talk about effective use of the medium… just wow!!!!!!!…
The soundtrack by Susumu Hirasawa is a masterpiece in its own right as well.
324 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:08:07pm |
Oh sweet zombie Jeebus. Now I’m seeing “Obummer allowed an immigrant rally while the national parks are closed!” derp all over the damn place.
SMH
325 | EmmaAnne Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:09:10pm |
re: #90 Charles Johnson
I wish this Emelio guy would label his pictures. I never know what the hell they are.
326 | wrenchwench Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:09:12pm |
re: #324 Lidane
Oh sweet zombie Jeebus. Now I’m seeing “Obummer allowed an immigrant rally while the national parks are closed!” derp all over the damn place.
SMH
200 people got arrested. Doesn’t that placate the wingnuts?
/nothing does….
327 | piratedan Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:09:17pm |
re: #323 Dr Lizardo
The soundtrack by Susumu Hirasawa is a masterpiece in its own right as well.
well just like anything else, when all aspects of a film are working in anime, I find it completely enthralling, just like a good book or a good album, you step into that world and immerse yourself in it.
last good feature length anime that I got lost in was Summer Wars
328 | lawhawk Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:10:44pm |
Blasphemy: A law designed to protect an all-powerful supernatural deity from getting its feelings hurt. - Ricky Gervais
329 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:11:10pm |
Shutting down the govt is like shooting the first hostage. You don't get to “have a conversation” after that.— Joy Reid (@TheReidReport) October 8, 2013
330 | erik_t Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:11:53pm |
re: #324 Lidane
Oh sweet zombie Jeebus. Now I’m seeing “Obummer allowed an immigrant rally while the national parks are closed!” derp all over the damn place.
SMH
What, the allowed immigrant rally where a bunch of participating Democratic congressmen were arrested? That allowed rally?
(frankly, some derp does not deserve intellectually honest rebuke)
331 | wrenchwench Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:11:55pm |
We finally get a woman to chair the Fed and what happens? Bunch of men try to destroy the monetary system before she can even start the job.— Jon Lovett (@jonlovett) October 8, 2013
332 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:14:14pm |
re: #327 piratedan
well just like anything else, when all aspects of a film are working in anime, I find it completely enthralling, just like a good book or a good album, you step into that world and immerse yourself in it.
last good feature length anime that I got lost in was Summer Wars
Very true. I showed a friend of mine here, Eva is her name, Akira for the first time a few weeks back.
She commented afterwards that within 10 minutes of viewing, she completely forgot she was watching an animated film. She was utterly blown away.
That’s one of the reasons Akira is so widely regarded as a masterpiece.
333 | EPR-radar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:14:57pm |
re: #87 Shiplord Kirel
That reminds me of an OT.
Among other things, Conservapedia is noted for its attacks on the Theory of Relativity, stupidly conflating it with moral and cultural relativism and dismissing it as a liberal hoax.
It turns out there is a long history of politically framed right-wing attacks on Relativity. I was researching pre-war American fascists the other day and came across an example from Elizabeth Dilling, the noted antisemitic and anti-communist writer whose works play a seminal role in the ideology of the John Birch Society and the rest of what we know today as the hard right.
In A Who’s Who of Radicalism for Patriots (1934), Dilling linked Albert Einstein to various communists and wrote “”married to Russian; his much press-agented relativity theory is supposedly beyond the intelligence of almost everyone except himself.” She also tried to justify the Nazi seizure of Einstein’s property in Germany, claiming it was done because he was a communist.
As a matter of fact, it is a press-generated myth that relativity is beyond the understanding of all but a handful of people, and Einstein certainly never made such a claim himself. Dilling can be excused her ignorance of science (though not her bigotry) but the editors of Conservapedia have no such excuse: Relativity is as firmly established as the velocity of light. Among other things, GPS would not work if relativistic factors were omitted from the calculations.
Conservatives have a special talent for preserving derp from long ago and transmitting it, unimpaired or preferably amplified, to future generations.
334 | wrenchwench Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:16:03pm |
National Congress of American Indians releases statement calling sequester “a greater crisis” http://t.co/liD6zYEsZY via @TrahantReports:— ClearlyNM (@ClearlyNM) October 8, 2013
A greater crisis than the government shutdown, they mean. A good essay.
335 | Lidane Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:16:04pm |
re: #333 EPR-radar
Conservatives have a special talent for preserving derp from long ago and transmitting it, unimpaired or preferably amplified, to future generations.
Exhibit A: The Tea Party, recycling John Birch Society propaganda since 2008.
336 | ObserverArt Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:16:33pm |
re: #216 Dr Lizardo
That’s definitely a theory. If he throws in the towel now, the Teahadis will seek nothing less than his head on a platter. If he waits until the last possible moment, then he can claim ‘I had no choice but to do this in order to save the US economy’ or something along those lines.
Yeah, he’ll say he had to save the country from evil Obama and the democrats. It’s all their fault I had to do my job. Whaaaaaaaaa!
337 | ObserverArt Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:18:20pm |
re: #222 Mattand
I cannot even fathom what kind of mindset it requires to risk global economic disaster, just so you can keep your Speakership.
Ever heard the phrase drunk with power?
In this case, literally and figuratively.
338 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:19:50pm |
re: #185 Dr Lizardo
If the GOP gets anymore cartoonishly evil, they’ll have no choice but to run this fellow for President in 2016:
Snidely is Canadian.
339 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:20:37pm |
340 | Weet Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:21:31pm |
ACA systems a technological disaster?
I have not tried it myself, other than to view the first few pages. Here someone writes a critique. Anybody else tried it?
Sent to me by my sister-in-law today.
341 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:21:49pm |
re: #336 ObserverArt
Yeah, he’ll say he had to save the country from evil Obama and the democrats. It’s all their fault I had to do my job. Whaaaaaaaaa!
If it comes to that, it’s Boehner’s exit strategy.
It probably won’t work with the Teahadis though.
342 | piratedan Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:22:27pm |
re: #332 Dr Lizardo
I would agree, although some folks might argue that Evangelion is the best/better but I’m not one of them. I think the Akira soundtrack helps to separate it, not to say that Eva sucks, I just found Akira much more compelling.
344 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:26:13pm |
re: #340 Weet
ACA systems a technological disaster?
I have not tried it myself, other than to view the first few pages. Here someone writes a critique. Anybody else tried it?
Sent to me by my sister-in-law today.
There is no greater FAIL than rolling out an application to production and laying off the entire tech support team on the same day. WTF did you expect?
345 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:26:16pm |
re: #342 piratedan
I would agree, although some folks might argue that Evangelion is the best/better but I’m not one of them. I think the Akira soundtrack helps to separate it, not to say that Eva sucks, I just found Akira much more compelling.
Heh. My ex-wife used to complain that anime was nothing more than girls with unnaturally large eyes, over-inflated boobs and guns. So, figuring it was just easier to show her that anime is more than that, one day when we both had a mutual day off, I showed her Grave Of The Fireflies.
She was blubbering by the end of it. And she admitted her earlier assessment of the genre was perhaps mistaken.
346 | dog philosopher Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:26:33pm |
fox new headline
FOX NEWS POLL: Majority against debt ceiling raise
detail from the poll
Do you think most Americans will be better off or worse off under the new health care law, or will the new law not make much of a difference to most Americans across the country?
better off 41%
worse off 40%
no difference 11%
fish 7%
Recently Texas Senator Ted Cruz gave a 21-hour speech on the Senate floor to make the case to get rid of the new health care law. Setting aside how you feel about the law, do you think his actions helped his cause or hurt his cause — or haven’t you heard enough about it to say?
helped 19%
hurt 36%
As you may know, some lawmakers in Congress are trying to cut off funding for the health care law. (Some/Other) people say this is an important effort, whether or not they have the votes. (Some/Other) people say it is a waste of time and effort because Republicans know they do not have enough votes. Who do you agree with more?
Those who say it is an important effort 46%
Those who say it is a waste of time and effort 46%
Do you favor or oppose cutting off funding for the health care law from the federal budget?
favor 41%
oppose 53%
In the end, do you believe the health care law will be repealed or defunded, or will it be remain in place?
It will be repealed or defunded 27%
It will remain the law 64%
Do you think a partial shutdown of the federal government could be a good thing or is it definitely a bad thing?
Could be a good thing 30%
Definitely a bad thing 67%
Fish 3%
Who do you think is most responsible for the federal government shutdown?
Republican leaders, such as John Boehner 25%
Tea Party Republicans, such as Ted Cruz 17%
Democratic leaders, such as Harry Reid 8%
President Barack Obama 24%
(All/Combination) 20%
Fish 5%
(total by party: republicans 42% democrats 32%)
among ‘independants’ this breaks down to: republicans 40% democrats 27%
347 | Kragar Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:27:04pm |
Wiles: Government Shutdown Is Racist Against White People
“Is the racist Obama administration specifically targeting conservative white people for shutdowns and evictions? I really think so. I think he is deliberately trying to provoke an outbreak of anger.”
“Have you noticed that the only people being shut down or evicted are white Americans?” Wiles asked, saying that white veterans are getting the shaft while Obama is helping black welfare recipients. “Please tell me how all those welfare people living in federally-owned housing complexes are still there during the shutdown?”
He claimed that if the government shutdown closes national parks then it should result in the closure of the White House too: “And what about Barry Soetoro and his little wifey Michelle? They’re living rent-free in a federally owned house at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Somebody ought to remove them, send some National Park Service police officers over there to remove the Obamas, shut that place down too.”
What a vile disgusting sack of racist shit.
348 | wrenchwench Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:29:40pm |
re: #343 ProTARDISLiberal
So stressed right now. :(
Deeps breaths. Walk outside. Drink a glass of water. Write (on paper).
349 | Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:30:21pm |
The shutdown in terms of checkers:
350 | ProTARDISLiberal Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:31:03pm |
re: #348 wrenchwench
I’ve been doing the writing thing.
I am seeing my future evaporate. Not only that, I now have to consider Ex-Pat-ing.
351 | piratedan Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:31:35pm |
re: #345 Dr Lizardo
Heh. My ex-wife used to complain that anime was nothing more than girls with unnaturally large eyes, over-inflated boobs and guns. So, figuring it was just easier to show her that anime is more than that, one day when we both had a mutual day off, I showed her Grave Of The Fireflies.
She was blubbering by the end of it. And she admitted her earlier assessment of the genre was perhaps mistaken.
well that’s not to say that there isn’t a fair share of big eyed-overly developed chesty girls in a certain segment of anime (and a highly profitable one I might add too) but hell, you could say the same thing about TV or movies. There are good stories out there, just a matter of shopping effectively for them. Although I do concede her point that thru the 90’s, the anime stylings of the overly vertical oval occulars got to be tedious but not all fashion trends are good ones.
352 | wrenchwench Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:32:59pm |
re: #350 ProTARDISLiberal
I’ve been doing the writing thing.
I am seeing my future evaporate. Not only that, I now have to consider Ex-Pat-ing.
I have three siblings who have lived outside the US most of their lives. It is not a hardship for them.
Your future is what you make of it. Sure, you don’t have control over all the elements, but guess what? Nobody does.
353 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:35:41pm |
re: #351 piratedan
well that’s not to say that there isn’t a fair share of big eyed-overly developed chesty girls in a certain segment of anime (and a highly profitable one I might add too) but hell, you could say the same thing about TV or movies. There are good stories out there, just a matter of shopping effectively for them. Although I do concede her point that thru the 90’s, the anime stylings of the overly vertical oval occulars got to be tedious but not all fashion trends are good ones.
Exactly. It’s like any mass-market entertainment product; a lot of it is crap, some of it’s truly awful, but there are some gems.
354 | piratedan Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:37:14pm |
re: #353 Dr Lizardo
good talking with you Doc, have to go afk and live in the reality of the moment for a while….
take care all
355 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:40:14pm |
re: #354 piratedan
good talking with you Doc, have to go afk and live in the reality of the moment for a while….
take care all
Cool. Meatworld beckons.
356 | ProTARDISLiberal Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:42:03pm |
re: #352 wrenchwench
What places would you think of me going.
Moderate Muslim Nations is the key.
That or tolerant places otherwise.
357 | wrenchwench Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:44:10pm |
re: #356 ProTARDISLiberal
What places would you think of me going.
Moderate Muslim Nations is the key.
That or tolerant places otherwise.
The only Muslim nation I’ve been to is Turkey. It is wonderful. I loved Greece too.
I’d advise a big dose of patience. Are you still starting a job soon, or is that part of the evaporated future?
358 | ProTARDISLiberal Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:45:27pm |
re: #357 wrenchwench
I’m afraid a default would kill the job I have lined up in OKC.
359 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:45:27pm |
Turkey is nice.
Berlin is good; lots of Muslims there, mostly of the Turkish variety. Lots of mosques as well.
That’s where I encountered the Sufis. They have a pretty good-sized presence in Berlin.
360 | dog philosopher Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:46:33pm |
re: #356 ProTARDISLiberal
What places would you think of me going.
Moderate Muslim Nations is the key.
That or tolerant places otherwise.
bali is a hindu enclave in a muslim sea, and has a reputation of being a beautiful and inexpensive place to live
361 | Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:46:36pm |
Ladies and gentlemen, I bring you the GOP:
That’s right. More Republicans think that Muslims are covertly implementing Sharia Law in American court systems than don’t.
That’s the party you’ve made, Republicans. With all your little deals with the devil, ignoring the fundies, the bigots, the uninformed, because they’re allies in cutting spending and cutting taxes. It’s not the crazies that really fucking annoy me, it’s the Republicans who should have seen this coming, the Republicans who got told over and over that their party was radicalizing.
I cannot fucking remember how many times a ‘moderate’ Republican friend told me the abortion issue was just fundraising, and the GOP wouldn’t want to try to ban abortions because then they couldn’t fundraise off of it. It was always stupid logic and guess what, it turned out to be total bullshit.
And now you’ve got a party where 42% are bigots. And the goddamn democrats have 12% bigots and that sucks too, but goddamn, Republicans. 42% of you are either incredibly ill-informed or conspiracy theorists or, worse, avoid knowing the truth so you can keep on being bigots.
362 | ProTARDISLiberal Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:47:16pm |
re: #359 Dr Lizardo
Thing is, Turkey has Erdogan, who is dismantling the current system, and is trying to turn Turkey into some sort of Ottoman Empire, except nastier.
Hell, the Ottomans as a whole would look down on Erdogan.
363 | wrenchwench Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:48:00pm |
re: #358 ProTARDISLiberal
I’m afraid a default would kill the job I have lined up in OKC.
Fear about the future is a waste of time and energy. Too much of that and you won’t be ready for what does happen.
Work on bettering yourself in what ever way you feel is important. Are you ready to move and start that job?
364 | ProTARDISLiberal Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:50:43pm |
re: #363 wrenchwench
Calling people in OKC for recommendations on Apartments.
Also, planning what needs to be bought and sold.
I have a shit-ton of things I don’t need anymore that I got when younger. That could get me a bit of money.
365 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:51:44pm |
re: #362 ProTARDISLiberal
He seems to have bought into the whole idea of some greater Turkish-Islamic Union. That idea is broadly supported by the Turks I met in Berlin. They love the idea. Even the Sufis.
Milli Görüs is quite popular among the Berlin Turkish Muslim community.
366 | wrenchwench Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:52:30pm |
re: #359 Dr Lizardo
Turkey is nice.
Berlin is good; lots of Muslims there, mostly of the Turkish variety. Lots of mosques as well.
That’s where I encountered the Sufis. They have a pretty good-sized presence in Berlin.
I have a brother in Berlin. He went to visit 28 years ago and has been there (or near there in a commune east of the last eastern train stop) ever since. His two daughters grew up there, moved away, and one moved back (after a couple of years at Barnard and half a year in Argentina). I can’t believe I’ve only visited him there once. But I don’t get out much, and he’s never been to New Mexico.
367 | wrenchwench Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:54:17pm |
re: #364 ProTARDISLiberal
Calling people in OKC for recommendations on Apartments.
Also, planning what needs to be bought and sold.
I have a shit-ton of things I don’t need anymore that I got when younger. That could get me a bit of money.
Sounds like a couple of good projects. Find out every detail you can about your new work place, too.
How’s your work wardrobe?
368 | austin_blue Tue, Oct 8, 2013 4:58:24pm |
Evening Lizards!
Anything happen today? No?
Color me shocked. That weird orange-colored Boehner is a doing a helluva job, isn’t he?
370 | b_sharp Tue, Oct 8, 2013 5:05:51pm |
re: #350 ProTARDISLiberal
I’ve been doing the writing thing.
I am seeing my future evaporate. Not only that, I now have to consider Ex-Pat-ing.
You react too severely. Try taking the middle road.
371 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Oct 8, 2013 5:06:52pm |
This is CNN, so take it w/a grain of salt—a big grain.
46 minutes ago
Senior House GOP source: Short term debt ceiling may be way out
Washington (CNN) - The door the White House appears to have opened to a short-term debt ceiling increase may be a temporary way out of the standoff, a senior House Republican told CNN.
“The Republicans may be willing to go for a short-term debt ceiling increase as long as the president agrees to use that time to negotiate, the source told CNN Chief Congressional Correspondent Dana Bash.”
The source, of course, is not named.
372 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Oct 8, 2013 5:09:33pm |
re: #371 Justanotherhuman
This is CNN, so take it w/a grain of salt—a big grain.
46 minutes ago
Senior House GOP source: Short term debt ceiling may be way outWashington (CNN) - The door the White House appears to have opened to a short-term debt ceiling increase may be a temporary way out of the standoff, a senior House Republican told CNN.
“The Republicans may be willing to go for a short-term debt ceiling increase as long as the president agrees to use that time to negotiate, the source told CNN Chief Congressional Correspondent Dana Bash.”
The source, of course, is not named.
More convincing themselves that if they hold out a bit longer Obama will cave and they will win everything.
373 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 8, 2013 5:10:59pm |
re: #371 Justanotherhuman
This is CNN, so take it w/a grain of salt—a big grain.
46 minutes ago
Senior House GOP source: Short term debt ceiling may be way outWashington (CNN) - The door the White House appears to have opened to a short-term debt ceiling increase may be a temporary way out of the standoff, a senior House Republican told CNN.
“The Republicans may be willing to go for a short-term debt ceiling increase as long as the president agrees to use that time to negotiate, the source told CNN Chief Congressional Correspondent Dana Bash.”
The source, of course, is not named.
“Short-term”? Anything shorter than 6 months is just kicking the can down the road.
374 | ProTARDISLiberal Tue, Oct 8, 2013 5:11:15pm |
re: #367 wrenchwench
Business Casual.
When I was a young idiot, I got a shit-ton of Pokemon Cards. Need to get rid of them. Along with a handful of GB and GBA games.
375 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 8, 2013 5:16:07pm |
But note that it’s just talking of a debt ceiling increase/suspension, not an end to the shutdown. So it’s not the end to the hostage crisis, just a promise that one of the hostages won’t get his brains blown out for a little longer.
376 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Oct 8, 2013 5:16:24pm |
Arguing with the Republicans is like arguing with your spouse: the topic of the moment always changes to one from two years ago. #inners— Harold Itzkowitz (@HaroldItz) October 9, 2013
377 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Oct 8, 2013 5:17:52pm |
Republicans, SOS, DD.
Both bills the House just passed will likely not be brought up in the Senate, and the WH has threatened to veto the package— Frank Thorp V (@frankthorpNBC) October 8, 2013
378 | Targetpractice Tue, Oct 8, 2013 5:19:03pm |
re: #377 Justanotherhuman
Republicans, SOS, DD.
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Cue the whines about Democrats are “vindictive,” want to keep shutdown painful for federal workers, and Republicans are suddenly defenders of public employees.
379 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Oct 8, 2013 5:19:19pm |
re: #372 Feline Fearless Leader
More convincing themselves that if they hold out a bit longer Obama will cave and they will win everything.
Yeah, and they’re using Republicans at CNN to get their bullshit out.
380 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Oct 8, 2013 5:22:37pm |
Charlie Pierce is on Hayes’ program. This ought to be good.
381 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Oct 8, 2013 5:24:22pm |
Republicans are in “…centers of power that answer to no one.” Pierce.
382 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Oct 8, 2013 5:31:10pm |
Pierce said the Republican Party is “fractured” and has no leadership, like Jim Baker, who would pull them into a room and tell them to “cut it out” and get something done. Instead, they are in “…centers of power that answer to no one.”
Scary, isn’t it? Because I think we know where those “centers of power” are, and they’re not democratic in nature.
383 | b_sharp Tue, Oct 8, 2013 5:34:53pm |
re: #382 Justanotherhuman
Pierce said the Republican Party is “fractured” and has no leadership, like Jim Baker, who would pull them into a room and tell them to “cut it out” and get something done. Instead, they are in “…centers of power that answer to no one.”
Scary, isn’t it? Because I think we know where those “centers of power” are, and they’re not democratic in nature.
Snorting Koch?
384 | Balfour Rage Tue, Oct 8, 2013 5:36:06pm |
This is absolutely hilarious:
WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Senator Ted Cruz (R-Texas) raised the ante in the battle over the Affordable Care Act on Sunday, telling CNN’s Candy Crowley that “destroying the entire planet is really the best and only way to stop Obamacare.”
“Look, I’m in favor of shutting down the government and not raising the debt ceiling, but let’s not kid ourselves. Those are only half measures,” he told Crowley. “If we are really serious about stopping Obamacare, we’ll destroy the entire planet.”
Explaining his proposal to a visibly alarmed Crowley, Senator Cruz said, “Obamacare is like a parasite that needs a host to feed on. If you want to kill the parasite you kill the host, and in this case that means killing this planet. As long as there’s a planet Earth, the nightmare of Obamacare could always come screaming back to life.”
While he was not specific about how he would go about destroying the planet, Cruz said, “This is something that my colleagues and I have been working on for some time.”
The Texas senator refused to speculate on whether there were enough votes in Congress to support his proposal of obliterating Earth, but he ended his interview on a personal note: “Candy, I don’t want my children and my children’s children to live in a world with Obamacare. And the best way to guarantee that is by destroying the world.”
385 | Balfour Rage Tue, Oct 8, 2013 5:37:51pm |
re: #381 Justanotherhuman
Republicans are in “…centers of power that answer to no one.” Pierce.
In an echo chamber of Fox News that answers to no one except their lunatic, wacko base of Tea Party know-nothing fanatics.
386 | Stanley Sea Tue, Oct 8, 2013 5:41:49pm |
re: #378 Targetpractice
Cue the whines about Democrats are “vindictive,” want to keep shutdown painful for federal workers, and Republicans are suddenly defenders of public employees.
Makes me queasy.
387 | psddluva4evah Tue, Oct 8, 2013 5:47:41pm |
Ok, I read this and laughed, cause now I think POTUS is trolling some of his “supporters”. Off da record conversations…here come all the conspiracy theorist from the left.
Obama meets with 4 conservative columnist
I’m with Booman here: What Was That About?
I wonder what the president had in mind this afternoon when he sat down with conservative writers Paul Gigot, Kathleen Parker, Charles Krauthammer, Robert Costa, and Byron York? I’m betting that he was less hoping to influence what they write than influence what they say privately to Republican lawmakers.
He probably wants to send an indirect message that he isn’t going to fold to bolster what he’s been saying directly, but he needs credible messengers.
- See more at: boomantribune.com
388 | Weet Tue, Oct 8, 2013 5:56:12pm |
re: #344 Vicious Babushka
There is no greater FAIL than rolling out an application to production and laying off the entire tech support team on the same day. WTF did you expect?
Thank you for the info! I did not even know that the tech support team was ‘shutdown’. However, as a 28 year CSE, I have loads of experience in every phase of system development and management. I wonder who this was outsourced to, as they apparently have done a terrible job in design, implementation, etc. All of my analysis is dependent upon whether this article is correct. I was wondering if anyone here has had a different result when using the system. I see things equally this bad in the business world, and have hundreds of stories I could tell. But this report is disappointing at the least!
389 | William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Oct 8, 2013 6:19:06pm |
re: #359 Dr Lizardo
Turkey is nice.
Berlin is good; lots of Muslims there, mostly of the Turkish variety. Lots of mosques as well.
That’s where I encountered the Sufis. They have a pretty good-sized presence in Berlin.
If you really find it necessary, I can say that I loved Germany during the times I spent there. My time was down south - Bavaria - but I’d easily recommend Berlin too. Otherwise, hang in there or move someplace with a larger population - both absolute and Muslim.
390 | Stoatly Tue, Oct 8, 2013 6:40:49pm |
re: #356 ProTARDISLiberal
London has various Muslim communities among all the variety there (and Muslims who don’t think of themselves as part of a particular community) - there are a few nutters of course but nothing like the problems and lack of mixing of the former mill towns further north
Great city in many ways, I loved living there, and I couldn’t wait to leave! It’s not tranquil or cheap