Monday Night Open
Here’s an overnight open thread for the lizard army, sans frills.
Here’s an overnight open thread for the lizard army, sans frills.
1 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:14:12pm |
I was hoping for an open!
TY Charles!
2 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:18:52pm |
Well, an Aaron Rodgers injury opened an opportunity for the Chicago Bears, and they did make use of it, beating the Green Bay Packers 27-20.
With all NFC North teams having played 8 games the Lions, Bears, and Packers are in a three way tie at 5-3 (the Vikings are last and least at 1-7). Next up for the Bears: A home game on Sunday against Detroit. It turns out Jay Cutler’s injury is less severe than feared and he plans to start on Sunday. The Bears will need him and every other trick in their offensive arsenal to outscore Matt Stafford and the Lions.
4 | HoosierHoops Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:41:27pm |
So..There I am…
I’m on the road.. It’s about midnight at a road side motel..
I get into my car with a mixed drink…yummy.Stoli and OJ..Anyhoo I’m smoking a Cuban cigar with the Rolling stones blasting out..Start me up.. My God I remember the exact second.. the minute..the time in my life when that song was blasting out on the Jukebox in Alameda..Those memories..whoa..
I Thought..Would I even know me back then..If I met myself would I even know me in 1980..I’m not sure..I sat back thinking about life with my cigar and drink with the radio on..
I was then surrounded by Indiana police..A SUV blocking me and 2 patrol cars on each side.. I fricking almost swallowed my cigar..Panic in that moment..Turned down the radio..Queen just started so that pissed me off..
I thought..Is this the Hoopster in 1981? Really? In that moment I jumped out the car in my Jammies with a cuban cigar clenched in my mouth declaring ‘you got me!’ But just seconds before they all raced off..I stood outside in the parking lot all by myself..I guess they ran the plates on the Beemer from Oklahoma and sped off..As I stand defienent by myself in my PJ’s and throw back Celtics coat.. I’m not the same man..We all change..We all evolve.
5 | Kragar Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:47:57pm |
This weekend, Space Wolves Great Company versus a Night Lords Warpsmith’s Warband.
6 | GlutenFreeJesus Mon, Nov 4, 2013 10:01:36pm |
re: #2 Dark_Falcon
Well, an Aaron Rodgers injury opened an opportunity for the Chicago Bears, and they did make use of it, beating the Green Bay Packers 27-20.
With all NFC North teams having played 8 games the Lions, Bears, and Packers are in a three way tie at 5-3 (the Vikings are last and least at 1-7). Next up for the Bears: A home game on Sunday against Detroit. It turns out Jay Cutler’s injury is less severe than feared and he plans to start on Sunday. The Bears will need him and every other trick in their offensive arsenal to outscore Matt Stafford and the Lions.
If the Bears put Cutler back in they are guaranteed to lose. McCown played well today. Zero turnovers. Zero interceptions. Over 200+ yards passing. Don’t fix it if it ain’t broke. I really hope they let him play on Sunday and keep the sore groin sidelined.
8 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 4, 2013 10:18:35pm |
9 | Kragar Mon, Nov 4, 2013 10:22:54pm |
10 | wrenchwench Mon, Nov 4, 2013 10:25:24pm |
11 | Lidane Mon, Nov 4, 2013 10:48:25pm |
So tonight, I went to a taping of Austin City Limits with Nine Inch Nails. It was AWESOME. As usual, Trent Reznor kicked ass and took names. Here’s my view before the show started:
Aside from a couple of drunk bouncy dudes that insisted on singing and miming every song played, the show was amazeballs. Look for it when it airs in your area. NIN are a can’t miss band.
12 | Amory Blaine Mon, Nov 4, 2013 10:52:31pm |
re: #11 Lidane
Cool!! I saw NIN in the 90s with Pop Will Eat Itself. Great show.
13 | piratedan Mon, Nov 4, 2013 10:59:17pm |
that’s okay, the GOP just wants to reduce government in blue districts, not their own
15 | goddamnedfrank Mon, Nov 4, 2013 11:33:00pm |
Really good article in Fast Company about a team of Marine advisers in Afghanistan, highly recommend reading it all:
That upped the ante. If this was the end game, it became doubly important for the advisers to figure out where to invest their time. What end state should they aim for? What should “independent” look like? There was no way the Afghans would become as proficient in the time remaining as the Americans. That would take decades—if ever. And there’s no roadmap for this stuff. Adviser teams essentially function like startup entrepreneurs: They are counted on to just make it up as they go along, pulling from best practices when they can, but otherwise just using their own smarts to figure out where to double-down on their efforts.
Like many eureka moments, the answer came in part from what on the surface appeared to be a failure. Because of resource constraints, one kandak in the 1/215—the 3rd—didn’t have any advisers. Yet, oddly, of all the kandaks, that one actually seemed to be doing the best. They had security under control. They were actively collaborating with the other authorities in their area. Insurgents weren’t making any inroads. Indeed, it would be forces from this kandak, based in Marjah, that helped trounce the Taliban that day in September 2012. “We wondered if that was an indicator,” says Bourbeau. What he and Treglia saw as they watched the battle unfold seemed to confirm it. Maybe keeping the advisers around wasn’t helping the Afghans as much as they thought. “Maybe we were actually slowing things down,” Bourbeau says.
It was basic human nature. “If you put 19 Marines in one area, that means there are 19 Marines working to get things done, and that means there are 19 ANA who aren’t doing their job,” Treglia says. The Marines are stronger and better trained. Why wouldn’t the Afghans defer? But that approach only solves the problem of the day. “Strategically, to win this war, the ANA must have confidence and must be able to show that they can succeed,” Treglia says.
So Treglia decided to take a risk: He pulled the advisers out and replaced them with the two- and four-man LNOs. “It was a brilliant move,” says one of Treglia’s captains, who stayed behind as an LNO team leader. At first, the Afghans hated it. “They’re like, ‘You guys suck. Why are you leaving us?’” says the captain. But after a couple of weeks of the Marines telling the Afghans they couldn’t do things for them anymore, it was like a light went off. “They were like, ‘We can do this.’” And then, “We don’t need any Marines.” And not long after, “What are you still doing here?”
Like I said read the whole thing, it’s worth it. Love the concept of the “good motherfucker club.”
16 | goddamnedfrank Mon, Nov 4, 2013 11:35:34pm |
One more bit from the article:
The implicit thinking in an organization like this would be that, if a commander wanted to make the kind of major tactical shift Treglia had in mind, he would run it by the regional command for its blessing. Treglia didn’t. A bureaucracy may very well have killed the idea, and he understood why: “There was a hesitancy among guys who’ve devoted limbs, arms, legs, and lives to the Helmand Valley to turn it over the Afghans, who suck compared to the Marine Corps,” Treglia says in his usual forthright way. But he didn’t share their doubts. He worked closely with the ANA and saw what they were capable of. “You can suck but still beat the Taliban,” he says, “because the Taliban really, really suck.” And though there was an increasing reluctance to put lives at risk, Treglia didn’t think the LNOs’ safety would be an issue. They’d be co-located with other Marine units who were large enough to look out for them.
18 | Amory Blaine Tue, Nov 5, 2013 1:10:55am |
He. Colbert had a segment about a Twitter account Real Human Praise
Apparently they take horror movie reviews from Rotten Tomatoes, strip out the movie references and replace them with FOX personalities. SOme of them are meh. But some are pretty funny.
If we were to reduce all of world punditry to just a dozen images, Baier's perfect, pensive face would have to be among them. #PraiseFOX
— Real Human Praise (@RealHumanPraise) November 5, 2013
20 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 1:49:08am |
21 | Romantic Heretic Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:05:21am |
re: #17 freetoken
Is racism hereditary?
It’s heredity only to the extent that all humans are disposed towards distrusting ‘outsiders’. After that it is cultural because culture determines what group of people are ‘outsiders’.
23 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:48:50am |
Was this a failed copycat, or are we going to see a rash of these?
Prosecutor: Garden State Plaza gunman committed suicide inside mall, body found
See more at: northjersey.com
“The body of a 20-year-old Teaneck man who walked into the Westfield Garden State Plaza mall in Paramus on Monday night and fired six shots, setting off a panicked frenzy and a six-hour manhunt, was found in a storage area inside the shopping center early Tuesday morning with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to his head, authorities said.
“John L. Molinelli, the Bergen County Prosecutor, identified the shooter as Richard Shoop, 20, at a predawn press conference. He said authorities recovered a note from the house Shoop shared with his parents on Emerson Avenue in Teaneck. Molinelli did not describe its contents but said he would not classify it as a suicide note.
“Molinelli said Shoop, dressed head-to-toe in black and wearing a black helmet, entered the mall about ten minutes before it was due to close at 9:30 and fired six rounds from a Sig Sauer rifle that had been modified to resemble an AK-47-style assault rifle. The rounds struck an escalator and an elevator, but Molinelli said Shoop did not appear to be firing at anyone.”
24 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:10:54am |
Officials release photo of suspected NJ mall shooter Richard Shoop; gunman is dead and no other injuries reported pic.twitter.com/Nxk6tXWRCH— NBC News (@NBCNews) November 5, 2013
Was this guy trying to break into show biz? exploretalent.com
Not the way I’d do it.
25 | Flounder Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:22:53am |
Don’t forget to vote!
I voted for a Democrat for the first time since Carl McCall. It was a trap! He also ran on the conservative platform.
I feel sullied and unwell.
26 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:24:41am |
re: #24 Justanotherhuman
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Was this guy trying to break into show biz? exploretalent.com
Not the way I’d do it.
The poster is for a movie about a neo-nazi.
27 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:26:43am |
re: #26 Vicious Babushka
The poster is for a movie about a neo-nazi.
Yeah, looks like who he was modeling himself after.
28 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:27:29am |
IDIOT==>
We don’t know ANYTHING about the mall shooter, dumbass, except that he loved a movie about a neo-nazi.
Good news - dead NJ mall shooter was probably an Obama voter. Bad news - he's definitely voting Democrat now. #tcot #p2 #UniteBlue— John Galt (@JohnGaltTweets) November 5, 2013
29 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:28:19am |
Wingnuts aren’t saying anything about the LAX shooter, gee I wonder why. Could it be there’s no way they can claim he’s an “Obama voter”?
30 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:29:04am |
re: #28 Vicious Babushka
IDIOT==>
We don’t know ANYTHING about the mall shooter, dumbass, except that he loved a movie about a neo-nazi.[Embedded content]
The cops have a note that Shoop wrote that was in his apt—described as “not a suicide note”.
31 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:29:55am |
re: #30 Justanotherhuman
The cops have a note that Shook wrote that was in his apt—described as “not a suicide note”.
They’re not saying what was in the note.
32 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:30:40am |
Bryan is Derping up a storm this morning. How dumb is this?
Obama: Indian name “Redskins,” bad. Indian name “Blackhawks,” most excellent. http://t.co/N25M8qMYX0— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) November 5, 2013
33 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:38:49am |
34 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:43:07am |
35 | William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:44:13am |
re: #6 GlutenFreeJesus
If the Bears put Cutler back in they are guaranteed to lose. McCown played well today. Zero turnovers. Zero interceptions. Over 200+ yards passing. Don’t fix it if it ain’t broke. I really hope they let him play on Sunday and keep the sore groin sidelined.
I hope Cutler plays. I’d like to see Detroit pull ahead in the standings.
36 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:53:06am |
re: #28 Vicious Babushka
They are so quick to do this.
Wonder why…
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37 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:56:25am |
re: #34 Sol Berdinowitz
Them’s fightin’ words!!!
Certainly raises a lot of questions about his education, too.
Who wrote his papers at Duke, for instance? What was his standing in medical school? Bottom of the class? Just squeaked by? No wonder he formed his own specialty licensing board—if you’re the boss, you can do and say anything you please.
38 | Shiplord Kirel Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:57:57am |
re: #32 Vicious Babushka
Bryan is Derping up a storm this morning. How dumb is this?
Obama: Indian name “Redskins,” bad. Indian name “Blackhawks,” most excellent.
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Attention, dumbfuck. “Blackhawk” was the actual name of an actual person. Nobody regards it as a slur because, among other things, bigots and haters have never used it as one.
Fact is, ‘bagger quacks like Bryan aren’t even trying anymore. Bryan’s audience does not care how stupid he sounds, or how transparently dishonest he is, so long as he keeps their fig-leaf talking points rolling in.
39 | Mike Lamb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:02:19am |
re: #26 Vicious Babushka
The poster is for a movie about a neo-nazi.
A neo-Nazi who redeems himself after going to jail. Either the guy’s appearance is misleading or he didn’t watch the movie very closely.
40 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:02:35am |
Last night I downloaded The Complete Symphonies of Mozart, from 1-41, including a bunch of symphonies that he wrote before he was 5 years old.
In spite of being a friggin’ musical genius, he couldn’t manage money for shit.
Dr. Ben Carson running political office is like Mozart offering financial advice.
41 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:03:40am |
re: #38 Shiplord Kirel
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Attention, dumbfuck. “Blackhawk” was the actual name of an actual person. Nobody regards it as a slur because, among other things, bigots and haters have never used it as one.
Fact is, ‘bagger quacks like Bryan aren’t even trying anymore. Bryan’s audience does not care how stupid he sounds, or how transparently dishonest he is, so long as he keeps their fig-leaf talking points rolling in.
Boom!
42 | Amory Blaine Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:07:14am |
An American History X poster is suspicious. Unless I saw some other Ed Norton memorabilia or some civil rights stuff around I’d definitely high tail it out of there.
43 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:10:04am |
we tried this. we kicked the confederates asses MT @TPM Ron Paul calls for “nullification” of Obamacare http://t.co/1H5imJFVrh— Oliver Willis (@owillis) November 5, 2013
44 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:11:37am |
re: #43 Vicious Babushka
They will not give up on that talking point. But then again, we have Sovereign Citizens who feel that every individual has the right to “nullify” any laws they disagree with.
45 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:23:14am |
re: #28 Vicious Babushka
IDIOT==>
We don’t know ANYTHING about the mall shooter, dumbass, except that he loved a movie about a neo-nazi.[Embedded content]
@JohnGaltTweets Ah, Twitter! The perfect place to demonstrate to all the world that you are a clueless ass. #tcot #p2 #UniteBlue #tlot
— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) November 5, 2013
46 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:24:33am |
Report—LAX shooter is a right-wing conspiracy kook. No surprise. http://t.co/cH5r8qadSc— Bruce Bartlett (@BruceBartlett) November 5, 2013
47 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:30:32am |
re: #35 William Barnett-Lewis
I hope Cutler plays. I’d like to see Detroit pull ahead in the standings.
As Ralphieboy just said, them’s fightin’ words. I also think those are words you’re liable to end up eating, as much improved as the Bears’ offensive line is now. And the game is in Chicago, so the Bears do have that advantage as well.
What you’ve got to worry about is if Rodgers can recover quickly. The Packers will need to score more than the 20 points they got last night if they hope to defeat the Eagles on Sunday.
48 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:31:39am |
Fitch Credit Scoring— Alabama and other states that did not expand Medicaid under ACA:
Study: Not expanding Medicaid could hurt hospitals
49 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:33:36am |
@JohnGaltTweets So an honest and fair law is impossible, rendering the idea of justice impossible as well. What a sad vision of the world.
— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) November 5, 2013
50 | Amory Blaine Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:34:02am |
When my wife’s mom died we took in George the cat. He likes sitting on my desk in this one spot so he just pushed an inconveniencing pile of papers onto the floor. Then looked me in the eye and meowed loudly. He’s laying there now watching me type. He appears annoyed with me.
51 | RealityBasedSteve Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:35:56am |
Took a trip to the Lane Auto Museum here in Nashville this weekend…
A 1920’s Leyat Helica…
52 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:36:27am |
re: #50 Amory Blaine
When my wife’s mom died we took in George the cat. He likes sitting on my desk in this one spot so he just pushed an inconveniencing pile of papers onto the floor. Then looked me in the eye and meowed loudly. He’s laying there now watching me type. He appears annoyed with me.
Well, you are not paying him the requisite amount of attention, duh.
Good morning Lizardim from the cold and soon-to-be snowy wild north country. 2-4 inches of accumulation is expected this evening, so I spent some time last night filling the tires on the snowblower, checking the oil, and fueling it up to make sure it’s ready to run. How go things among the lizardfolk this fine freezing morning?
53 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:38:19am |
@dscc And thus annoyed, the donkey party kicks up its hooves. #tcot #tlot
— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) November 5, 2013
54 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:46:15am |
Remember remember the 5th of November, that Guy whose face you Anon Dudebro’s wear on your masks, was a Catholic theocrat, and the holiday that commemorates his defeat was observed for many years by anti-Catholic riots.
55 | RealityBasedSteve Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:48:48am |
Rest of the pics… Chrome is giving me fits this morning…
There were a number of attempts to build a propeller driven vehicle around this time frame, they were all uniformly unsuccessful in practice. Some of them were very fast in a straight line, but all suffered from the problem that since the ONLY propulsion was the propeller, they very quickly got stuck going up hills.
RBS
56 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:52:27am |
re: #54 Vicious Babushka
Remember remember the 5th of November, that Guy whose face you Anon Dudebro’s wear on your masks, was a Catholic theocrat, and the holiday that commemorates his defeat was observed for many years by anti-Catholic riots.
In Colonial New England, November 5th was called “Pope’s Day” and instead of effigies of Fawkes being burned, the bonfires were used to burn effigies of the pope. This went on till the Revolutionary War, when George Washington ordered a stop to it, knowing it alienated Catholics found in other parts of the 13 colonies whose support the Revolution would need.
57 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:52:41am |
re: #46 Vicious Babushka
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Is there some cultural phenomenon going on with young white males? Other than the straight out racism, sometimes hidden under a veneer of acceptable cultural differences, easily accessible guns, a veneer of “respectability” since so many come not from poverty, but solidly middle class backgrounds, with “clueless” family, friends, etc.
These types—young, white, male—are also the ones who seem the most consumed with libertarian ideology, also, so I suppose it would just take a step or two further right along the political spectrum to commit these acts, even though they wouldn’t describe themselves as “white supremacists”.
The first thing that springs to mind is that it must be “mental illness” when something like this happens. Yet, when someone like Aaron Alexis, a black man, commits this kind of act, it takes longer (with proof) to make that designation.
58 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:58:46am |
re: #57 Justanotherhuman
This may sound like a dumb question, but are there any libertarians who are not white and middle class? I can’t think of any off the top of my head.
59 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:00:14am |
Good morning Lizards! Cool (mid-40s F), and partially cloudy in Philly this morning.
Day 2 of a virtual classroom training class (SAP stuff). Doing it from home in the spare room. Have my laptop plugged into the TV via VGA cable for a big screen to look at, VPN into the company network for access to the classroom itself and using my work phone for the audio.
The cats find all the extra wires amusing and have been hanging out in here (when I let them).
Things change next week. Chicago-bound for another training class.
60 | Amory Blaine Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:00:52am |
The cost of rejecting Medicaid funds for Wisconsin
Counties call for Walker to accept Medicaid funding
A Tale of Two States - Why Wisconsin Premiums are Higher than Minnesota
Wisconsin health insurance exchange premiums for single coverage will be on average 79% to 99% higher than premiums in Minnesota, before tax credits are applied. That is a difference of over $1,800 a year.
61 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:01:34am |
re: #58 wheat-dogghazi
This may sound like a dumb question, but are there any libertarians who are not white and middle class? I can’t think of any off the top of my head.
White and economic upper class—the 1% dudebros.
62 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:01:52am |
re: #57 Justanotherhuman
Is there some cultural phenomenon going on with young white males? Other than the straight out racism, sometimes hidden under a veneer of acceptable cultural differences, easily accessible guns, a veneer of “respectability” since so many come not from poverty, but solidly middle class backgrounds, with “clueless” family, friends, etc.
These types—young, white, male—are also the ones who seem the most consumed with libertarian ideology, also, so I suppose it would just take a step or two further right along the political spectrum to commit these acts, even though they wouldn’t describe themselves as “white supremacists”.
The first thing that springs to mind is that it must be “mental illness” when something like this happens. Yet, when someone like Aaron Alexis, a black man, commits this kind of act, it takes longer (with proof) to make that designation.
I’m of the opinion that it’s a reaction against the authoritarian parenting of the generation before. Most people my age that I’ve talked to, if they had anything resembling a normal household, also had what I would call a “normal” parenting experience - occasional physical discipline, moderately strict rules, teenage rebellion swiftly put down with revocation of privileges. Kids these days don’t want to be their parents, so they’re reacting against the strict authoritarianism by promoting themselves as libertarians. Which also raises concerns about their parenting styles - many younger couples whom my wife has nannied/babysat for have kids that are wild terrors but they refuse to discipline them properly.
63 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:02:14am |
re: #12 Amory Blaine
Saw them at Woodstock 94, before they were widely known. They blew the pants off the place - upstaging both Metallica and Aerosmith, who were the headliners on that Saturday night.
If anything, Reznor is even more polished than he was back then - channeling all that rage and emotion in new directions. The new album rocks, and I’ve seen his current tour on video. Totally rocking, and it’s interesting watching him use technology to expand musical horizons, rather than as a crutch as many other artists do (especially when they autotune voices).
64 | wrenchwench Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:04:43am |
re: #58 wheat-dogghazi
This may sound like a dumb question, but are there any libertarians who are not white and middle class? I can’t think of any off the top of my head.
Koch Bros. They are white, but not middle class.
65 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:06:09am |
*HEADDESK*
Any quotes from Obama’s father of the many public speeches that he made?
Seeing a lot of trash talking about Ted Cruz’s father. Let’s talk #Obama’s father for a bit. #uniteblue #tlot #Benghazi— Libertee (@Libertymeme) November 5, 2013
66 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:07:18am |
And I’m glad that the situation at the Garden State Plaza mall ended as it did - the shooter committing suicide, rather than how it could have been - with a significant number of casualties.
Police are still at the mall, and they were still going through stores checking to make sure it was secure this morning. The mall’s going to be closed today, and there’s a whole lot of people who are grateful that the police responded as they did.
The focus will be on why the shooter did what he did. Seems to be a troubled person with a drug history and who apparently stole the gun from his brother. He apparently sought to commit suicide - or suicide by cop. So he chose the most visible way to do so.
If anything, this once again shows the need to step up mental health services and support for getting drug abusers clean and sober. You’ll probably hear about how the shooter came from a nice and quiet neighborhood (Teaneck, which really is a nice place), but drugs are all over the place, and not just in urban centers. It’s the ugly truth and this was but one possible ugly outcome.
67 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:07:25am |
re: #64 wrenchwench
Koch Bros. They are white, but not middle class.
Unless you subscribe to a rigid definition that there is virtually no American upper class—don’t have the pedigree and all. The Kochs would just be filthy rich bourgeoisie.
68 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:09:31am |
Mortar shell hits #Vatican embassy in Damascus; latest in string of attacks on diplomatic facilities in Syria http://t.co/ZXdpHeGQAd— lawhawk (@lawhawk) November 5, 2013
69 | Ian G. Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:10:20am |
re: #49 Dark_Falcon
Apparently the 13th amendment screws honest people. And the 17th. And the 19th. What a maroon.
70 | Ian G. Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:10:56am |
re: #68 lawhawk
How soon before Glenn Beck says this is part of Obama’s war on Christians?
71 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:11:53am |
re: #53 Dark_Falcon
Your party will be punished for their tantrum.
Personal responsibility!
72 | kirkspencer Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:13:57am |
re: #58 wheat-dogghazi
This may sound like a dumb question, but are there any libertarians who are not white and middle class? I can’t think of any off the top of my head.
Herman Cain is an exception to both labels.
73 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:14:42am |
re: #67 Decatur Deb
Unless you subscribe to a rigid definition that there is virtually no American upper class—don’t have the pedigree and all. The Kochs would just be filthy rich bourgeoisie.
The Kochs want the entire USA to be changed to suit Koch business interests. Not sure if that classfies them as libertarians or greedy mutherfockers.
74 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:15:23am |
re: #73 wheat-dogghazi
The Kochs want the entire USA to be changed to suit Koch business interests. Not sure if that classfies them as libertarians or greedy mutherfockers.
They can be both.
75 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:15:53am |
re: #72 kirkspencer
Herman Cain is an exception to both labels.
Well, there’s one exception to every rule. And he’s just as wacko as Crazy Uncle Ron.
76 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:16:30am |
This is how much some states love their kids.
IG Finds States’ Child Care Requirements Too Lax
In NC, no one need have any real formal training in early childhood development, although many do. “Christian” daycares whose creed requires corporal punishment are exempt from the law preventing its use. The only real requirements for operating a daycare are that the primary operator must be 21 (you can leave an 18 yr old in charge in your absence), pass a criminal background check, and pay required fees. Although caregivers must have a North Carolina Early Childhood Credential or its equivalent, they have 6 mos to obtain one while employed (it doesn’t appeare to require any particular training). also required is a CPR certificate. You can keep up to 5 kids in your house, plus 3 after-schoolers. After that, you are required to have a separate facility which is inspected yearly, I believe. In fact, facilities are more scrutinized that the providers themselves.
“Discipline
Each program must have a written policy on discipline, must discuss it
with parents, and must give parents a copy when the child is enrolled.
Changes in the discipline policy must be shared with parents in writing
before going into effect. Corporal punishment (spanking, slapping, or
other physical discipline) is prohibited in all centers and family child care
homes. Religious-sponsored programs which notify the Division of Child
Development and Early Education that corporal punishment is part of
their religious training are exempt from that part of the law. “
77 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:16:34am |
78 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:17:54am |
re: #76 Justanotherhuman
Religious-sponsored programs which notify the Division of Child
Development and Early Education that corporal punishment is part of
their religious training are exempt from that part of the law.
WTFITS
79 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:18:33am |
re: #76 Justanotherhuman
Religious-sponsored programs which notify the Division of Child
Development and Early Education that corporal punishment is part of
their religious training are exempt from that part of the law.
Say wha?
80 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:19:35am |
re: #73 wheat-dogghazi
The Kochs want the entire USA to be changed to suit Koch business interests. Not sure if that classfies them as libertarians or greedy mutherfockers.
re: #77 wheat-dogghazi
Quite true.
Whatever libertarianism is, they seem to have bought the franchise, starting well before the Tea Parties.
81 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:22:55am |
re: #71 Varek Raith
The same party that originated the call for an individual mandate for health care insurance as a way to make each person responsible for their own health care coverages has now disavowed that policy and claims that it is unconstitutional (after claiming it was the preferred alternative for a generation - since 1989 when Heritage first introduced and heralded the concept).
In fact, the Heritage plan included direct and indirect assistance to make sure that people had access to affordable insurance - subsidies that were mimicked in the ACA. It was proposed before Clinton was elected - and predates Hillarycare. It was touted by the GOP as an alternative to what the Clintons were proposing, but health care reform went nowhere during the ensuing period.
But when Barack Obama became president, he made health care reform a major objective. To encourage GOPers to support the plan, he dropped single payor (the preferred option for Democrats) and went with individual mandate and health exchanges, which mirrored the Heritage’s proposals.
The whole ACA is based on the RomneyCare (MassCare) plan, which was based on the Heritage plan. The only thing different is that a Democrat made it law of the land, and the GOP and Heritage can’t tolerate this, so they’ve committed to the destruction of a policy they championed for a generation.
But ever since the enactment of the ACA, the GOP and Heritage have been trying to rewrite the history of the proposal and simultaneously sought to destroy the program by any means necessary - seizing on every real and imagined problem with the program.
They’re currently hyping the fact that people aren’t getting to keep their policies, or that some have to pay more. Well, that’s no different than before the ACA - except the policies being eliminated in many cases is substandard and doesn’t provide coverages worth the premiums paid. The replacement policies are better - and yet the GOP keeps trying to make apples to zombies comparisons. It’s an argument that has traction since few people really understand health care insurance benefits and what all the numbers mean.
82 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:23:38am |
re: #78 Vicious Babushka
WTFITS
re: #79 wheat-dogghazi
Say wha?
Why the shock? The county officials placed mildly delinquent kids in my reform school, where nuns judiciously practiced the punishment practices of the era. During the day, we had two county-paid social workers on site. Conditions were far better than the norm among our parent households.
83 | kirkspencer Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:25:28am |
re: #75 wheat-dogghazi
Well, there’s one exception to every rule. And he’s just as wacko as Crazy Uncle Ron.
You know, I despise that phrase as it gets misused so frequently. Not all rules have exceptions. If there are exceptions, it implies either a case of exceptions (ie, this condition is an exception and here is an example) OR that the rule is at best a generality.
I tossed out Herman Cain. I could toss out some other names but you probably wouldn’t know them - they’re acquaintances who are poor to middle class but non-white. Larry Elder claims to be a libertarian. So does Abdul Hakim-Shabazz. That makes three I’ve named who are not white but are liberatarians. They are wealthy, however, but again the problem with proving non-wealthy is you have to know them.
As to the crazy, well, I’m afraid I think that of most of the libertarians I know. When you get down to bedrock they’re just anarchists who think we will obey the principles of law without enforcement.
84 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:25:39am |
re: #49 Dark_Falcon
All laws screw someone. If you see a law that isn’t screwing criminals, then it’s screwing honest people
I do not see what he is getting at, other than confirming the fact that humans are fallible and imperfect, and any law made by them is subject to those flaws and imperfections, either in conception or execution.
Coming from a “John Galt”, i would assume that it means that we should reject all laws and government and rule ourselves independently.
What a brilliant idea (for a fourteen-year-old)
85 | kirkspencer Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:26:34am |
re: #81 lawhawk
The same party that originated the call for an individual mandate for health care insurance as a way to make each person responsible for their own health care coverages has now disavowed that policy and claims that it is unconstitutional (after claiming it was the preferred alternative for a generation - since 1989 when Heritage first introduced and heralded the concept).
In fact, the Heritage plan included direct and indirect assistance to make sure that people had access to affordable insurance - subsidies that were mimicked in the ACA. It was proposed before Clinton was elected - and predates Hillarycare. It was touted by the GOP as an alternative to what the Clintons were proposing, but health care reform went nowhere during the ensuing period.
But when Barack Obama became president, he made health care reform a major objective. To encourage GOPers to support the plan, he dropped single payor (the preferred option for Democrats) and went with individual mandate and health exchanges, which mirrored the Heritage’s proposals.
The whole ACA is based on the RomneyCare (MassCare) plan, which was based on the Heritage plan. The only thing different is that a Democrat made it law of the land, and the GOP and Heritage can’t tolerate this, so they’ve committed to the destruction of a policy they championed for a generation.
But ever since the enactment of the ACA, the GOP and Heritage have been trying to rewrite the history of the proposal and simultaneously sought to destroy the program by any means necessary - seizing on every real and imagined problem with the program.
They’re currently hyping the fact that people aren’t getting to keep their policies, or that some have to pay more. Well, that’s no different than before the ACA - except the policies being eliminated in many cases is substandard and doesn’t provide coverages worth the premiums paid. The replacement policies are better - and yet the GOP keeps trying to make apples to zombies comparisons. It’s an argument that has traction since few people really understand health care insurance benefits and what all the numbers mean.
Remember they didn’t expect the law to be passed. They proposed it as an alternative to Clinton’s plan just so they could say there was an alternative and “Clinton was choosing the wrong one.”
86 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:31:25am |
re: #83 kirkspencer
Well, I’ll avoid using the phrase around you from now on. ;-)
So, there are non-white, non-middle class libertarians, but with the exception of Cain, they don’t seem to get press. Most of the ones I know about are dudebros, who have lived within a fairly sheltered bubble most of their lives.
87 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:31:46am |
re: #85 kirkspencer
They were trying to block it by suggesting the individual mandate was superior to the Clinton plan, but it wasn’t invented just for that particular debate - it predates the Clinton plan and health care push by more than three years. That means that the proposal was floating out there among GOPers for that time, and it was ultimately adopted by Romney in MA and the President for the entire US.
Now, it’s the GOP fighting against a proposal that they originally championed as a way of putting the onus on individuals to get health insurance coverages to reduce the burdens on everyone - from the individual who needs access to affordable insurance to hospitals who were going bankrupt due to indigent care and shifting care away from overburdened ERs where health care costs exceed those at urgent care and personal physicians, etc.
88 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:32:09am |
re: #84 Sol Berdinowitz
I do not see what he is getting at, other than confirming the fact that humans are fallible and imperfect, and any law made by them is subject to those flaws and imperfections, either in conception or execution.
Coming from a “John Galt”, i would assume that it means that we should reject all laws and government and rule ourselves independently.
What a brilliant idea (for a fourteen-year-old)
That was most of my thought as well. The rest of it was my rejection of the bleakness of such an idea, that rejection being for religious as well as philosophical reasons. I view the idea that “Galt” put forward as incompatible with the beliefs of the Founders and entirely un-Christian. Though that last would make him consistent with Ayn Rand, though not with most people who call themselves ‘libertarian’.
90 | darthstar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:33:43am |
Okay, so maybe his plagiarism is a bit of a habit.
Rand Paul, Plagiarist pic.twitter.com/sT7ZyGZVnK— Progressive News (@Letsgetreal68) November 5, 2013
91 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:35:12am |
re: #66 lawhawk
And I’m glad that the situation at the Garden State Plaza mall ended as it did - the shooter committing suicide, rather than how it could have been - with a significant number of casualties.
Police are still at the mall, and they were still going through stores checking to make sure it was secure this morning. The mall’s going to be closed today, and there’s a whole lot of people who are grateful that the police responded as they did.
The focus will be on why the shooter did what he did. Seems to be a troubled person with a drug history and who apparently stole the gun from his brother. He apparently sought to commit suicide - or suicide by cop. So he chose the most visible way to do so.
If anything, this once again shows the need to step up mental health services and support for getting drug abusers clean and sober. You’ll probably hear about how the shooter came from a nice and quiet neighborhood (Teaneck, which really is a nice place), but drugs are all over the place, and not just in urban centers. It’s the ugly truth and this was but one possible ugly outcome.
Oh my. I don’t think you meant it this way, but when it’s drugs in the white suburbs, it’s a mental health issue, but when it’s drugs in the inner city, it’s a criminal issue? This is the face of racism in the US.
So much injustice in this country. Imagine, if you can, for just a second, living in a milieu where there is constant unemployment, shortages of money, of food, of care, of services, etc., etc. You feel neglected—you are neglected.
I remember when I lived in Charlotte a public housing project which was built for poor white people right after the Depression. It had, of course, gradually been inhabited by poor blacks, after the 1960s (whites did not stay once it was “integrated”). There were no similar projects initially built for black folks. When it was constructed, it was seen as a “helping hand” for poor whites who might have lost mills jobs, war widows, etc but once black folks moved in, it was seen as a permanent home for them. It was torn down about 10 yrs ago, over 60 yrs after it was built. The rooms were tiny, cramped and meant to be temporary for people going through a rough patch.
My grandmother lived in a rental house not far from this project in the 1950s when poor whites still inhabited the neighborhood and the mills were still operating. I still have photos from that time, having stayed with her over a summer or two after my mother died.
92 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:37:44am |
re: #90 darthstar
Okay, so maybe his plagiarism is a bit of a habit.
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93 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:38:39am |
re: #87 lawhawk
They were trying to block it by suggesting the individual mandate was superior to the Clinton plan, but it wasn’t invented just for that particular debate - it predates the Clinton plan and health care push by more than three years. That means that the proposal was floating out there among GOPers for that time, and it was ultimately adopted by Romney in MA and the President for the entire US.
Now, it’s the GOP fighting against a proposal that they originally championed as a way of putting the onus on individuals to get health insurance coverages to reduce the burdens on everyone - from the individual who needs access to affordable insurance to hospitals who were going bankrupt due to indigent care and shifting care away from overburdened ERs where health care costs exceed those at urgent care and personal physicians, etc.
The big problem in their way now, however, is that their committing to total repeal rather than any attempts at reform. They have no replacement plan because the TPers won’t entertain the idea of government having any role in health care, and even if they could convince them of its necessity, can’t have their proposal in any way mimic the ACA for fear that the voters will demand why we went through repeal instead of reform. But by throwing out their own ideas with total repeal, they’re left with nothing but half-measures and outright lies in the hopes that they can convince people that some warped form of “trickle down” is the answer.
94 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:39:10am |
95 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:40:43am |
re: #84 Sol Berdinowitz
I do not see what he is getting at, other than confirming the fact that humans are fallible and imperfect, and any law made by them is subject to those flaws and imperfections, either in conception or execution.
Coming from a “John Galt”, i would assume that it means that we should reject all laws and government and rule ourselves independently.
What a brilliant idea (for a fourteen-year-old)
@JohnGaltTweets Neither. I was expressing my opposition to the bleak view of humanity that your post expressed.
— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) November 5, 2013
96 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:40:57am |
Wingnuts (via “Twitchy”) are all outraged by this stupid sign. It’s stupid, but how is it OBAMAZ FAULT!!!11!!!!!
Is this some of that Common Core math? (cc @michellemalkin; @twitchyteam) pic.twitter.com/3ICfJiC1nO— Adam (@GPIA7R) November 5, 2013
97 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:42:50am |
re: #96 Vicious Babushka
Wingnuts (via “Twitchy”) are all outraged by this stupid sign. It’s stupid, but how is it OBAMAZ FAULT!!!11!!!!!
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That’s actually not even Math. That’s language and given that I have my birthyear in roman numerals tatted on my bicep, I can tell you that it would be otugh to get all those characters on that fabric.
98 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:44:14am |
Let’s see, 2015 in Roman numerals would be MMXV.
You know how films always put the production date in Roman at the beginning?
99 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:44:32am |
Well here’s hoping today we say good bye to Ken Cuccinelli’s political career. Sure, he’ll probably get a gig at FNC or your right wing propaganda outlet de jour but it’s looking like he won’t be Virginia’s governor and for that I will be grateful.
100 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:45:40am |
re: #96 Vicious Babushka
Wingnuts (via “Twitchy”) are all outraged by this stupid sign. It’s stupid, but how is it OBAMAZ FAULT!!!11!!!!!
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Idiots. MMXV. Couldn’t be easier, really. I looked it up (took 5 sec), since I didn’t take time to remember how to translate it into Roman numerals. : )
101 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:49:55am |
re: #99 HappyWarrior
Well here’s hoping today we say good bye to Ken Cuccinelli’s political career. Sure, he’ll probably get a gig at FNC or your right wing propaganda outlet de jour but it’s looking like he won’t be Virginia’s governor and for that I will be grateful.
Oh, you can be sure that Cucci will find ways to keep his name in politics. May not make another run at the governor’s mansion, but he’ll likely try again for higher office.
102 | Political Atheist Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:52:14am |
Obdicut-This Page has an editorial that gets into the Patriot Act and how it (not just pen registers) made metadata collection allegedly legal. It’s more people that have examined the laws and seen this connection same as the ACLU did.
Sunset the Patriot Act and you probably end domestic metadata data gathering like the NSA has been doing.
103 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:52:18am |
re: #101 Targetpractice
Oh, you can be sure that Cucci will find ways to keep his name in politics. May not make another run at the governor’s mansion, but he’ll likely try again for higher office.
I gotta think should he lose, he’ll be the front-runner against Warner in 2014 or Kaine in 2018. He’s not an old guy by any means. By the way, we may have a changing of delegate from R to D here. The incumbent R got primaried for you guessed it not being right wing enough and the Dem running has run a smooth campaign here. Talked with one of the high school kids canvassing for her yesterday(Kids have the day off Monday and Tuesday).
104 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:54:17am |
re: #103 HappyWarrior
I gotta think should he lose, he’ll be the front-runner against Warner in 2014 or Kaine in 2018. He’s not an old guy by any means. By the way, we may have a changing of delegate from R to D here. The incumbent R got primaried for you guessed it not being right wing enough and the Dem running has run a smooth campaign here. Talked with one of the high school kids canvassing for her yesterday(Kids have the day off Monday and Tuesday).
I’m curious to see if Rigell will end up getting primaried here. Haven’t heard anything yet, but there’s still time. And considering this district went blue last year, a fire-breathing TPer would be a very hard sell.
105 | Lidane Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:55:09am |
re: #102 Political Atheist
Obdicut-This Page has an editorial that gets into the Patriot Act and how it (not just pen registers) made metadata collection allegedly legal. It’s more people that have examined the laws and seen this connection same as the ACLU did.
Sunset the Patriot Act and you probably end domestic metadata data gathering like the NSA has been doing.
Sunsetting the Patriot Act will never happen. Post-9/11 hysteria gave the government expanded powers and they’re not going to give them up anytime soon. Also, any POTUS that pushes for getting rid of it will immediately be tarred and feathered as a traitor to America and an Al Qaeda supporter.
106 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:57:31am |
re: #104 Targetpractice
I’m curious to see if Rigell will end up getting primaried here. Haven’t heard anything yet, but there’s still time. And considering this district went blue last year, a fire-breathing TPer would be a very hard sell.
Hasn’t stopped them before from nominating firebaggers in blue/purple areas before. I’m sure the TP will find a “true conservative” to run against him.
107 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:57:49am |
@JohnGaltTweets There is a middle ground, but your post did not indicate an understanding of that fact. But maybe its just Twitter's limits.
— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) November 5, 2013
I always try to be charitable, and Twitter’s enforced brevity sometimes masks the full extent of a person’s thoughts.
108 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:58:09am |
re: #105 Lidane
Sunsetting the Patriot Act will never happen. Post-9/11 hysteria gave the government expanded powers and they’re not going to give them up anytime soon. Also, any POTUS that pushes for getting rid of it will immediately be tarred and feathered as a traitor to America and an Al Qaeda supporter.
I would have said that any president who states he will not agree to another extension is pretty much painting a bullseye on his ass. Any terrorist activity, up to and including a major attack on US soil, would swiftly end his presidency.
109 | GunstarGreen Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:58:27am |
re: #96 Vicious Babushka
Wingnuts (via “Twitchy”) are all outraged by this stupid sign. It’s stupid, but how is it OBAMAZ FAULT!!!11!!!!!
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Couldn’t possibly be a conscious choice to do something different besides just translating the number to Roman, could it?
The American Right: Because making fun of children is much more on their level.
110 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:58:39am |
re: #107 Dark_Falcon
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I always try to be charitable, and Twitter’s enforced brevity sometimes masks the full extent of a person’s thoughts.
I think you’re wasting time on an immature dumbass.
111 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:59:23am |
Greenwald has his panties in a wad, again, after it’s revealed The Guardian shared documents w/names and info on them (although they deny it) w/the NYT and other publications, putting people in danger. At least he calls it what it really is—criminal.
Just as is true in the US, the UK govt gets trained journalists to take the lead in trying to criminlaize journalism http://t.co/IyycPgTIAk— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) November 5, 2013
This is an obvious attempt to paint himself, Miranda, and Poitras as innocents in this entire sleazy mess.
112 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:00:09am |
re: #109 GunstarGreen
Couldn’t possibly be a conscious choice to do something different besides just translating the number to Roman, could it?
The American Right: Because making fun of children is much more on their level.
That was my first reaction, that they deliberately translated the digits individually instead of writing it the “proper way”.
Kids just being goofy.
113 | b.d. Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:03:53am |
CNN provided heavy coverage last week of the troubled introduction of the website tied to the Affordable Care Act. The result was the lowest weekly ratings for CNN in more than a year.
Who would have thought of breathless breaking coverage of a bad website wouldn’t keep people’s interest?
114 | GunstarGreen Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:04:28am |
re: #72 kirkspencer
Herman Cain is an exception to both labels.
Herman Cain isn’t a libertarian. He just happens to be a shill for WSB Radio, which is an extreme right-wing station that’s too embarrassed to be associated with religion in Georgia (Less Gub’mint! No Sunday Sales!). He is whatever will keep the redneck rubes listening this week.
115 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:06:24am |
re: #110 Vicious Babushka
I think you’re wasting time on an immature dumbass.
Maybe, and I don’t intend to continue the Twitter exchange. But I try to respond if someone is actually trying to make a point instead of flinging insults. I also have a serious need to have the last word, truth to tell.
116 | William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:06:56am |
re: #102 Political Atheist
Sunset the Patriot Act and you probably end domestic metadata data gathering like the NSA has been doing.
Well, no, you may make it illegal but that does not mean the collection has stopped. See the FBI & Hoover, J. Edgar for more examples.
Even then, it still does nothing about corporate intelligence gathering, which I find far more threatening to our freedom than anything done by the government.
117 | Bulworth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:08:42am |
re: #111 Justanotherhuman
It’s true, all journalists are in prison. /
118 | William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:09:09am |
re: #107 Dark_Falcon
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I always try to be charitable, and Twitter’s enforced brevity sometimes masks the full extent of a person’s thoughts.
DF, if he’s got a galtian handle, he’s full blown radical anarchist masquerading as libertarian. There is no need to be charitable to him as he attempts to pull the wool over your (& anyone else’s he can) eyes.
119 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:11:49am |
re: #107 Dark_Falcon
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I always try to be charitable, and Twitter’s enforced brevity sometimes masks the full extent of a person’s thoughts.
You remind me of why Twitter is pretty much useless for anything except letting friends know what they had for lunch
121 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:12:26am |
re: #119 Sol Berdinowitz
You remind me of why Teitter is pretty much useless for anything except letting friends know what they had for lunch
Country-fried Ewok.
122 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:13:59am |
123 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:14:27am |
re: #121 Varek Raith
Country-fried Ewok.
I’ve heard that the new Shake-‘N-Bake for Ewok is particularly delicious. It’s favored by 9 out of 10 Imperial Stormtroopers.
124 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:14:31am |
re: #109 GunstarGreen
Couldn’t possibly be a conscious choice to do something different besides just translating the number to Roman, could it?
The American Right: Because making fun of children is much more on their level.
Yeah, there’s definitely that too.
125 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:15:59am |
re: #123 Dr Lizardo
I’ve heard that the new Shake-‘N-Bake for Ewok is particularly delicious. It’s favored by 9 out of 10 Imperial Stormtroopers.
Have the tenth stormtroopers report to Hell Deck.
126 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:16:25am |
Much speculation going on out there.
Britain operating ‘spy post from Berlin embassy’
Appears to be using high-tech equipment on the embassy roof to intercept German data
“Appears to be”, among other guessing.
127 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:17:51am |
re: #123 Dr Lizardo
I’ve heard that the new Shake-‘N-Bake for Ewok is particularly delicious. It’s favored by 9 out of 10 Imperial Stormtroopers.
I wok my Ewoks…
129 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:18:38am |
130 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:20:13am |
re: #55 RealityBasedSteve
Rest of the pics… Chrome is giving me fits this morning…
There were a number of attempts to build a propeller driven vehicle around this time frame, they were all uniformly unsuccessful in practice. Some of them were very fast in a straight line, but all suffered from the problem that since the ONLY propulsion was the propeller, they very quickly got stuck going up hills.
RBS
Looks like the bastard child of a 3-wheel Morgan and a Piper Cub.
131 | Tim TeaBro Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:24:44am |
Offensive names, concussions, and a new example of throwing money and fame at immature adults at too early an age and looking past the obvious signs.
Our national bloodsport just isn’t getting any respect lately.
Don’t worry, it will all blow over soon.
132 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:24:51am |
re: #130 GeneJockey
Looks like the bastard child of a 3-wheel Morgan and a Piper Cub.
That’s also when a lot of WWI surplus aero engines got into (wheel-driven) racecars and powerboats. New Liberties were sold for scrap weight.
133 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:25:22am |
Oh, my. Defending Max Blumenthal against the evil Eric Alterman.
On the predictable attacks on @MaxBlumenthal for his book critiquing Israel http://t.co/02xfWOrm04— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) November 5, 2013
Unfortunately, GG neglects to link Alterman’s piece in The Nation.
The ‘I Hate Israel’ Handbook
Max Blumenthal’s carelessly constructed case against the Jewish state won’t help the occupation’s victims.
134 | GunstarGreen Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:26:23am |
re: #131 Tim TeaBro
Offensive names, concussions, and a new example of throwing money and fame at immature adults at too early an age and looking past the obvious signs.
Our national bloodsport just isn’t getting any respect lately.
Don’t worry, it will all blow over soon.
Turns out that when you pay thugs millions of dollars a year to slam into each other over and over again, you get thuggish behavior. WHO COULD HAVE FORESEEN THIS?!
135 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:32:05am |
But this was Virginia Republican Party Chairman Pat Mullins’s version of the power of positive thinking in an interview this weekend. The path for star-crossed GOP gubernatorial candidate Ken Cuccinelli, Mullins said, looks like this: “If turnout is in the 30s, the low 30s, we’re gonna win. If it gets higher up in Fairfax [in Democratic-leaning Northern Virginia], say like 40, it’s likely we won’t. I don’t think it’s going to hit 40 anywhere. I’m looking at 32.”
136 | makeitstop Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:32:45am |
re: #131 Tim TeaBro
Offensive names, concussions, and a new example of throwing money and fame at immature adults at too early an age and looking past the obvious signs.
Our national bloodsport just isn’t getting any respect lately.
Don’t worry, it will all blow over soon.
Incognito is bad news. He may have bullied himself straight out of the league, and it’s exactly what he deserves.
But someone on NY sports radio yesterday brought up a very good point - that the Dolphins didn’t initially do anything about this situation because this type of thing is probably pretty wide-spread around the league, and they only took action when Incognito’s voicemail became public.
This is going to be a big problem for the NFL.
138 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:34:33am |
re: #132 Decatur Deb
That’s also when a lot of WWI surplus aero engines got into (wheel-driven) racecars and powerboats. New Liberties were sold for scrap weight.
Some of the race cars between the wars were just nuts. Road&Track had a feature on one of them, the Napier Railton. It used a 12 cylinder ‘Broad Arrow’ aircraft engine with a 24 Liter displacement! The pistons were the size of gallon paint cans!
139 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:36:05am |
re: #138 GeneJockey
Some of the race cars between the wars were just nuts. Road&Track had a feature on one of them, the Napier Railton. It used a 12 cylinder ‘Broad Arrow’ aircraft engine with a 24 Liter displacement! The pistons were the size of gallon paint cans!
“Aerodynamics is for people who can’t build engines”
—Nuvolari
140 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:37:38am |
re: #136 makeitstop
It’s probably far more widespread than anyone cares to admit. Just last year, there was a hazing incident with the NY Giants involving a rookie Prince Amukamera and Jason Paul-Pierre.
Some folks may try to distinguish the two - with the situation in Miami being of a far more serious nature and involving more hateful behaviors, but there’s a whole lot in common between the events. You’ve got senior players taking advantage of younger ones, and it’s a power relationship involved where the veterans are hazing the rookies.
It goes beyond getting players to dress up in kids’ outfits or similar hijinks. We’re talking about physical altercations.
141 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:38:25am |
re: #137 Gus
Mongo have the runs.
Mongo shouldn’t have had the beans like everyone else. But then again, Mongo just pawn in game of life.
142 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:38:41am |
143 | RealityBasedSteve Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:38:50am |
re: #130 GeneJockey
Looks like the bastard child of a 3-wheel Morgan and a Piper Cub.
I don’t think they have a Morgan, I’d have remembered that one, with the V-twin engine up in the front. Did have a number of other 3 wheeled cars however, and a BIG display of the various Mini-Cars over time.
RBS
144 | Internet Tough Guy Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:40:09am |
re: #111 Justanotherhuman
This is an obvious attempt to paint himself, Miranda, and Poitras as innocents in this entire sleazy mess.
Forget the lives that are endangered; really, this is all about me.
/glenn
145 | darthstar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:43:05am |
Okay, so it's only Tuesday, not Friday…he asked. pic.twitter.com/RDG5Hlu0zL— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) November 5, 2013
146 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:44:25am |
re: #143 RealityBasedSteve
I don’t think they have a Morgan, I’d have remembered that one, with the V-twin engine up in the front. Did have a number of other 3 wheeled cars however, and a BIG display of the various Mini-Cars over time.
RBS
This is a three-wheeler, saw it at the Hemmings Museum in Bennington.
147 | wrenchwench Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:46:39am |
148 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:50:55am |
re: #143 RealityBasedSteve
I don’t think they have a Morgan, I’d have remembered that one, with the V-twin engine up in the front. Did have a number of other 3 wheeled cars however, and a BIG display of the various Mini-Cars over time.
RBS
Apparently Morgan are making the 3-wheelers again.
Not sure I want one, but it makes me happy knowing somebody is bothering to make them.
149 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:51:20am |
Dudebros protesting outside White House…
152 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:53:57am |
I’m seriously tempted to hop on metro and laugh at those guys at the WH.
153 | Tim TeaBro Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:55:15am |
Every time I see those stupid masks I remember what a stupid fucking movie that was.
154 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:55:45am |
“V” Guy Fawkes mask = Total Lack of Originality
155 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:56:39am |
That Guy whose face Anon wear on their masks, was a theocrat who wanted to bring Inquisition to England. http://t.co/UXTSLN8vbb #UniteBlue— Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) November 5, 2013
156 | Lidane Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:57:17am |
WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE MENS. | Fox News guest: ‘Obamacare is a war on bros’ because rates are same as women http://t.co/YRwh1Ov35W #FEM2— Imani ABL (@AngryBlackLady) November 5, 2013
157 | Political Atheist Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:58:35am |
re: #105 Lidane
Sunsetting the Patriot Act will never happen. Post-9/11 hysteria gave the government expanded powers and they’re not going to give them up anytime soon. Also, any POTUS that pushes for getting rid of it will immediately be tarred and feathered as a traitor to America and an Al Qaeda supporter.
Maybe so but not certain. -Don’t underestimate the blow back when someone big gets caught way out of line in the use of the metadata or something. It always happens sooner or later.
added edit-Do you support the Leahy bill?
158 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:00:59am |
re: #155 Vicious Babushka
@viciousbabushka Torquemada-dont beg him for mercy. Torquemada-dont ask him for forgiveness. Let's face it - you cant Torquemada anything!— lawhawk (@lawhawk) November 5, 2013
159 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:04:47am |
It just kills me that V was, in the vein of most of Moore’s work, an astoundingly deep and thought-provoking journey into the extremes between fascism and anarchy, with a narrator who is at best unreliable and at worst an absolute liar…and it gets turned into a 2 hour long “take that!” at George W. Bush.
160 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:04:50am |
It’ll be interesting to see if NJ approves a ballot measure that would increase the minimum wage and allow for COLAs annually. There are ballot measures to expand state purchases of land for conservation to include blue purchases - to buy land from owners in flood zones and one that would let veterans groups run bingo operations. Figure the land purchases will pass, but not sure about the veterans groups and bingo ops.
Those ballot measures are the only real questions on statewide outcomes as Christie is heading to a major win.
161 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:05:18am |
Is this a real church sign or a “Generate your own church sign meme”?
Shame on the pastor of this church. RT @ahzoov: Tax this church. pic.twitter.com/Kr41RRe4v1 #p2 #uniteblue #christiansontheleft— Deb (@DebbZimmer) November 5, 2013
162 | EmmaAnne Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:06:13am |
re: #58 wheat-dogghazi
This may sound like a dumb question, but are there any libertarians who are not white and middle class? I can’t think of any off the top of my head.
I’d also like to know the gender mix among libertarians. It certainly feels like male-dominated phenomenon.
163 | Lidane Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:08:18am |
Wishing you and yours a treacherous, traitorous Guy Fawkes Day.— God (@TheTweetOfGod) November 5, 2013
164 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:08:55am |
ieatgravel.com
Not sure…
165 | MPH Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:10:21am |
Putting Americans In Charge of their Healthcare
whitehouse.gov
166 | jaunte Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:11:02am |
167 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:12:59am |
re: #165 MPH
If your policy was so shit that it didn’t meet the minimum requirements, well, it wasn’t worth the paper it was written on.
168 | Lidane Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:13:08am |
Heh.
Suge Knight just called Eminem the modern-day “Weird Al” Yankovic. Funny… I kinda thought *I* was the modern-day “Weird Al” Yankovic.— Al Yankovic (@alyankovic) November 5, 2013
169 | calochortus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:14:11am |
re: #161 Vicious Babushka
Is this a real church sign or a “Generate your own church sign meme”?
[Embedded content]
Shannyn Moore wrote a piece mentioning it in the Anchorage paper and I don’t see any comments saying it’s a fake, but then I didn’t read them all.
170 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:14:15am |
re: #153 Tim TeaBro
Every time I see those stupid masks I remember what a stupid fucking movie that was.
Hey, now, it appealed to my 16 yr old grandson—as fantasy. I took him to see it, and thought it was pretty over the top.
Fantasy of middle aged man who snags much younger and distraught girl (16), alternatively sucking her into his anarchistic world and while simultaneously treating her as fragile (hammy performance by Natalie Portman). Exploiter and protector all in one? How quaint.
171 | GunstarGreen Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:14:34am |
re: #161 Vicious Babushka
Is this a real church sign or a “Generate your own church sign meme”?
[Embedded content]
It’s a real church sign alright.
Organized religion has always been, is, and will always be nothing more than a tool by which to control the masses for the benefit of one’s political ideals. The two are inextricable, no matter how much our laws and their enforcers may pretend otherwise. A person does not need a pastor or preacher to tell them how to live their lives, only to tell them how to cast their vote, if they have a vote, or why they shouldn’t have a vote if they don’t.
172 | GunstarGreen Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:16:35am |
re: #167 Varek Raith
If your policy was so shit that it didn’t meet the minimum requirements, well, it wasn’t worth the paper it was written on.
Americans have proven time and time again that they will gladly pay out the ass for the illusion of security as long as they don’t have to shell out the actual value for the real thing. It’s no different with health care.
173 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:16:55am |
174 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:17:36am |
175 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:17:58am |
Just voted. Fairly long lines. Good sign. Cucci’s going down. And I have to say if the Libertarians want to be the third party they dream of becoming, they need to actually nominate people for other positions outside of governor.
176 | calochortus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:18:17am |
re: #165 MPH
I think health insurance should be uncoupled from employment.
Make everyone buy on the individual market. We’d have single payer so fast it would make your head spin.
177 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:18:23am |
re: #161 Vicious Babushka
Is this a real church sign or a “Generate your own church sign meme”?
[Embedded content]
Well my grandmother just said fuck you to them haha.
178 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:18:28am |
re: #167 Varek Raith
If your policy was so shit that it didn’t meet the minimum requirements, well, it wasn’t worth the paper it was written on.
I got into into it with that same libertarian again. This time I told him that health insurance that doesn’t cover hospitalization is not health insurance at all. He said, “MOST PEOPLE DON’T NEED HOSPITALIZATION!”
I pointed out that most people don’t need car insurance or life insurance or homeowners insurance either, but until he had a foolproof way of determining who would and would not need it, everyone needs it.
He was left muttering that Obama lied or something.
179 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:18:50am |
180 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:19:44am |
181 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:19:54am |
Speaking of Weird Al, Cavity Search from Bad Hair Day just went on my iTunes. I listened to this album quite a bit in ‘96. I still remember the day my best friend started talking about Amish Paradise.
182 | calochortus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:19:58am |
re: #178 GeneJockey
I got into into it with that same libertarian again. This time I told him that health insurance that doesn’t cover hospitalization is not health insurance at all. He said, “MOST PEOPLE DON’T NEED HOSPITALIZATION!”
I pointed out that most people don’t need car insurance or life insurance or homeowners insurance either, but until he had a foolproof way of determining who would and would not need it, everyone needs it.
He was left muttering that Obama lied or something.
And if we didn’t all buy it, it wouldn’t really be insurance, now would it?
183 | MPH Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:20:15am |
re: #167 Varek Raith
If your policy was so shit that it didn’t meet the minimum requirements, well, it wasn’t worth the paper it was written on.
Perhaps you are right. Not going to argue on that point.
But there is something else not worth the paper it was written on — President Obama’s word.
You do understand this president is finished, right? Obamacare was his great (Pyrrhic) victory.
184 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:20:31am |
re: #180 Vicious Babushka
It’s out in Dumbfuck, Alaska. Maybe Caribou Barbie is a member.
Nah, Baptists are too mainstream for her. She’s in one of those way out there Pentecostal like churches.
185 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:20:37am |
re: #181 HappyWarrior
Speaking of Weird Al, Cavity Search from Bad Hair Day just went on my iTunes. I listened to this album quite a bit in ‘96. I still remember the day my best friend started talking about Amish Paradise.
My favorite Weird Al song is “Genius in France”
186 | calochortus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:21:11am |
re: #183 MPH
Perhaps you are right. Not going to argue on that point.
But there is something else not worth the paper it was written on — President Obama’s word.
You do understand this president is finished, right? Obamacare was his great (Pyrrhic) victory.
Sad that he won’t get that third term, isn’t it?
187 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:21:15am |
re: #183 MPH
Perhaps you are right. Not going to argue on that point.
But there is something else not worth the paper it was written on — President Obama’s word.
You do understand this president is finished, right? Obamacare was his great (Pyrrhic) victory.
Yeah, he is so totally going to lose in 2016!
188 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:21:24am |
Rand “It’s Still Not My Fault” Paul on plagiarism charges. Blame the underlings.
Rand Paul to clean up speeches, writings
The internet is forever, though.
189 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:21:35am |
re: #185 Vicious Babushka
My favorite Weird Al song is “Genius in France”
I always liked Amish Paradise. That year was the year he(my pal) moved to Boston and later Texas. So it was our last summer really hanging out together daily.
190 | CarolJ Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:21:57am |
re: #157 Political Atheist
But that would be nibbling around the edges reform. Increase oversight, punish the folks responsible for the abuse, a few millions in settlement money, reform the relevant statute. But unless the world gets a lot safer, the core legislation will remain
191 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:21:59am |
re: #175 HappyWarrior
Just voted. Fairly long lines. Good sign. Cucci’s going down. And I have to say if the Libertarians want to be the third party they dream of becoming, they need to actually nominate people for other positions outside of governor.
They won’t. It’s a tiny political sect.
192 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:22:02am |
re: #188 Justanotherhuman
Rand “It’s Still Not My Fault” Paul on plagiarism charges. Blame the underlings.
Rand Paul to clean up speeches, writings
The internet is forever, though.
Like father, like son, person responsibility for thee but not for me at all.
193 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:22:16am |
I'm being intrvus by ABC— ChuckGrassley (@ChuckGrassley) November 5, 2013
194 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:22:53am |
re: #191 Justanotherhuman
They won’t. It’s a tiny political sect.
I don’t disagree at all since they’re too purer than thou for their own good.
195 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:23:24am |
re: #183 MPH
Perhaps you are right. Not going to argue on that point.
But there is something else not worth the paper it was written on — President Obama’s word.
You do understand this president is finished, right? Obamacare was his great (Pyrrhic) victory.
Well, there go his reelection chances.
///
197 | Bulworth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:24:27am |
re: #188 Justanotherhuman
The footnote police are after me~!!!111
198 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:25:09am |
Restaurant en Bora Bora, Polinesia Francesa. pic.twitter.com/GKJ9nhRgQe— Paisajes Increíbles (@_Paisajes_) November 5, 2013
199 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:25:34am |
re: #183 MPH
Your concern is noted.
Now, what is the GOP alternative?
Oh, right. They don’t have one. They don’t care about the uninsured.
200 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:26:46am |
I didn’t realize that Obersham(Virginia GOP candidate for AG) was the son of the Republican senate candidate who died in a plane crash not long after he was nominated. That’s why John Warner ended up getting nominated by the way. He had been runner up to the older Obersham. I hope voters did their homework on this guy. He’s just as nutty as Cuccinelli and Jackson are- sponsored a bill to get the cops involved in miscarriages and then the dick uses his daughter to say “See ladies, I don’t hate women, I have a lovely daughter.”
201 | EmmaAnne Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:27:23am |
re: #183 MPH
Perhaps you are right. Not going to argue on that point.
But there is something else not worth the paper it was written on — President Obama’s word.
You do understand this president is finished, right? Obamacare was his great (Pyrrhic) victory.
Yeah, he’ll never be reelected.
202 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:27:26am |
203 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:27:29am |
204 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:27:42am |
206 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:29:02am |
Really, if you don’t mind, I’d watch out for the frills.
and how are you today?
207 | Tim TeaBro Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:29:26am |
That Guy whose face Anon wear on their masks, was a theocrat who wanted to bring Inquisition to England.
Is it irony that the mask representing the dude who wanted to blow up Parliament is worn by people who want to blow up current governments?
Not to mention, Fawkes engaged in a plot to install a Catholic head of state because they didn’t like how Catholics were treated.
208 | GunstarGreen Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:29:33am |
re: #188 Justanotherhuman
Rand “It’s Still Not My Fault” Paul on plagiarism charges. Blame the underlings.
Rand Paul to clean up speeches, writings
The internet is forever, though.
The party of Personal Responsibility™, as long as it’s not their own.
210 | RealityBasedSteve Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:30:32am |
211 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:30:36am |
re: #207 Tim TeaBro
Is it irony that the mask representing the dude who wanted to blow up Parliament is worn by people who want to blow up current governments?
Yeah, they get that part.
Not to mention, Fawkes engaged in a plot to install a Catholic head of state because they didn’t like how Catholics were treated.
That’s the part they don’t get.
213 | CarolJ Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:31:00am |
re: #198 Gus
It’s one of the pictures that makes you wonder-“how do they do that?” I mean keeping the tables steady in the water.
I know it must be pretty warm water there on that beach, warm enough that the people sitting at the tables don’t catch cold while they are dining, and the people who follow them don’t mind getting wet. I also wonder, what’s on the menu at a place like this?
214 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:31:58am |
215 | Tim TeaBro Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:32:06am |
re: #170 Justanotherhuman
Hey, now, it appealed to my 16 yr old grandson—as fantasy. I took him to see it, and thought it was pretty over the top.
Fantasy of middle aged man who snags much younger and distraught girl (16), alternatively sucking her into his anarchistic world and while simultaneously treating her as fragile (hammy performance by Natalie Portman). Exploiter and protector all in one? How quaint.
It was one of those movies that started great… and towards the end I was looking at my watch thinking ‘When is the damn movie going to end?’
216 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:32:11am |
re: #213 CarolJ
It’s one of the pictures that makes you wonder-“how do they do that?” I mean keeping the tables steady in the water.
I know it must be pretty warm water there on that beach, warm enough that the people sitting at the tables don’t catch cold while they are dining, and the people who follow them don’t mind getting wet. I also wonder, what’s on the menu at a place like this?
I imagine a lot of good seafood which adds to the fly me out aspect.
217 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:32:12am |
re: #209 Vicious Babushka
Walla Walla
Bora Bora, French Polynesia
Pago Pago, American Samoa
Paw Paw, West Virginia, USA
Puka Puka, French Polynesia (Tuamotu archipelago)
Puka Puka, Cook Islands
Wagga Wagga, Australia
Walla Walla, Washington, USA
Woywoy, Australia
Xai Xai, Mozambique
Zam Zam, Sudan
218 | wrenchwench Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:32:57am |
re: #213 CarolJ
It’s one of the pictures that makes you wonder-“how do they do that?” I mean keeping the tables steady in the water.
I know it must be pretty warm water there on that beach, warm enough that the people sitting at the tables don’t catch cold while they are dining, and the people who follow them don’t mind getting wet. I also wonder, what’s on the menu at a place like this?
Good lamination.
219 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:33:33am |
re: #199 Varek Raith
Your concern is noted.
Now, what is the GOP alternative?
Oh, right. They don’t have one. They don’t care about the uninsured.
They’ll have one that is nearly identical to the ACA once they are re-elected. Nearly identical —except any concern for women’s health will be omitted.
220 | Tim TeaBro Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:33:48am |
re: #217 Gus
Bora Bora, French Polynesia
Pago Pago, American Samoa
Paw Paw, West Virginia, USA
Puka Puka, French Polynesia (Tuamotu archipelago)
Puka Puka, Cook Islands
Wagga Wagga, Australia
Walla Walla, Washington, USA
Woywoy, Australia
Xai Xai, Mozambique
Zam Zam, Sudan
You missed Wiki Wiki: the bus from the Inter Island terminal to the Mainland/International Terminal at Honolulu Int Airport.
221 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:34:44am |
re: #220 Tim TeaBro
You missed Wiki Wiki: the bus from the Inter Island terminal to the Mainland/International Terminal at Honolulu Int Airport.
and Baden-Baden in Germany
222 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:34:49am |
re: #213 CarolJ
It’s one of the pictures that makes you wonder-“how do they do that?” I mean keeping the tables steady in the water.
I know it must be pretty warm water there on that beach, warm enough that the people sitting at the tables don’t catch cold while they are dining, and the people who follow them don’t mind getting wet. I also wonder, what’s on the menu at a place like this?
Tourist.
223 | piratedan Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:35:55am |
re: #183 MPH
Perhaps you are right. Not going to argue on that point.
But there is something else not worth the paper it was written on — President Obama’s word.
You do understand this president is finished, right? Obamacare was his great (Pyrrhic) victory.
yeah, the public being misinformed is totally on the President, he should have held the media’s feet to the fire in regards to informing the public about what the ACA covers, and who could have known that the insurance companies wouldn’t act in good faith in regards to trying to keep their clients and still find a way to stick it to them with policies that aren’t cost effective or informing them about the marketplace?
224 | Ian G. Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:36:04am |
re: #171 GunstarGreen
It’s a real church sign alright.
Organized religion has always been, is, and will always be nothing more than a tool by which to control the masses for the benefit of one’s political ideals. The two are inextricable, no matter how much our laws and their enforcers may pretend otherwise. A person does not need a pastor or preacher to tell them how to live their lives, only to tell them how to cast their vote, if they have a vote, or why they shouldn’t have a vote if they don’t.
Wait, you mean when David Barton tells me that Jesus opposes net neutrality and increases in the capital gains tax, he might not actually be speaking for Jesus, but for himself? I’M SHOCKED!
225 | Mattand Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:37:00am |
re: #199 Varek Raith
Your concern is noted.
Now, what is the GOP alternative?
Oh, right. They don’t have one. They don’t care about the uninsured.
I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that MPH hasn’t bothered to look up what’s available for him on the exchange.
226 | Ian G. Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:37:38am |
re: #202 HappyWarrior
Well screw it, I’m off to Bora Bora.
That’s where the fiancee and I hope to spend the honeymoon.
228 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:37:58am |
229 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:39:02am |
waiting for the ferry in Tiburon. Not the worst commute in the world pic.twitter.com/BLvHAsJ3Id— erik spiekermann (@espiekermann) November 5, 2013
230 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:39:18am |
231 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:39:22am |
Things I didn’t know… Paula Abdul is Jewish? She’s apparently getting her bat mitzvah in Israel. Originally scheduled to do it at the Western Wall, she’s instead going to have it up in Tzvat.
232 | GunstarGreen Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:39:24am |
re: #224 Ian G.
Wait, you mean when David Barton tells me that Jesus opposes net neutrality and increases in the capital gains tax, he might not actually be speaking for Jesus, but for himself? I’M SHOCKED!
Surprisingly enough, God always happens to agree 100% with the political views/ambitions of the person invoking him/her/it.
233 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:40:24am |
re: #217 Gus
Bora Bora, French Polynesia
Pago Pago, American Samoa
Paw Paw, West Virginia, USA
Puka Puka, French Polynesia (Tuamotu archipelago)
Puka Puka, Cook Islands
Wagga Wagga, Australia
Walla Walla, Washington, USA
Woywoy, Australia
Xai Xai, Mozambique
Zam Zam, Sudan
My ex-wife thought Walla Walla, Washington was a made-up place name. Like Cucamonga, California. Her surprise when I took her to both places was quite something.
235 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:40:44am |
re: #231 lawhawk
Things I didn’t know… Paula Abdul is Jewish? She’s apparently getting her bat mitzvah in Israel. Originally scheduled to do it at the Western Wall, she’s instead going to have it up in Tzvat.
Tzefat is where all the Kabbalah-kooks go. NTTAWWT (my daughter and son-in-law own a tourist rental there)
236 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:41:22am |
re: #233 Dr Lizardo
My ex-wife thought Walla Walla, Washington was a made-up place name. Like Cucamonga, California. Her surprise when I took her to both places was quite something.
Were you in Europe when you were still with her? Because I hear Fucking, Austria is romantic. (pow)
237 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:42:13am |
re: #235 Vicious Babushka
Tzefat is where all the Kabbalah-kooks go. NTTAWWT (my daughter and son-in-law own a tourist rental there)
What is it with the Kabbalah. I admit to never researching it. All I know is that Madonna is all into it and therefore, I’m not that interested.
238 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:42:22am |
Dildo, Newfoundland.
Intercourse, Pennsylvania
The mountain west has some funny ones as seen in the Beavis and Butthead Do America montage when they’re traveling with the nuns.
240 | Ian G. Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:45:13am |
re: #238 HappyWarrior
Dildo, Newfoundland.
Intercourse, Pennsylvania
The mountain west has some funny ones as seen in the Beavis and Butthead Do America montage when they’re traveling with the nuns.
Coxsackie, New York.
And the towns from B&B include Butte and Weippie, Idaho, and Baggs and Meeteetse, Wyoming.
And nothing will ever beat this town’s name.
Edit: HappyWarrior beat me to it.
241 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:45:18am |
re: #236 HappyWarrior
Were you in Europe when you were still with her? Because I hear Fucking, Austria is romantic. (pow)
Heh. Yeah, I was in Europe when we were together. We’ve been to Fucking, Austria; that was her idea. :)
242 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:45:30am |
re: #237 FemNaziBitch
What is it with the Kabbalah. I admit to never researching it. All I know is that Madonna is all into it and therefore, I’m not that interested.
Kabbalah is some arcane books of Judaic lore. According to legend someone who is an expert in Kabbalah can learn SEEKRIT MAGICKAL POWERS to build a golem & stuff.
The dupes who are into “Kabbalah” just learn a bunch of old legends (some of which are sexy) but they don’t learn how to build a golem.
243 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:45:50am |
re: #240 Ian G.
Coxsackie, New York.
And the towns from B&B include Butte and Weippie, Idaho, and Baggs and Meeteetse, Wyoming.
Hell, Michigan.
244 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:46:15am |
245 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:46:19am |
re: #240 Ian G.
Coxsackie, New York.
And the towns from B&B include Butte and Weippie, Idaho, and Baggs and Meeteetse, Wyoming.
…Moving there now.
246 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:46:27am |
The best is when Wierd Al did his hair like Snoop Dog.
247 | Political Atheist Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:46:36am |
re: #190 CarolJ
But that would be nibbling around the edges reform. Increase oversight, punish the folks responsible for the abuse, a few millions in settlement money, reform the relevant statute. But unless the world gets a lot safer, the core legislation will remain
You mean the Sensebrenner/Leahy bill not sunsetting the PA I take it. I’ll take it as steps in the right direction, same as I welcome Obamas increased oversight. Not far enough but it’s better than nothing.
248 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:46:52am |
Lol
Its road signs are a popular visitor attraction, and were often stolen by souvenir-hunting tourists until 2005, when they were modified to be theft-resistant.
249 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:46:53am |
250 | Ian G. Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:47:50am |
re: #243 FemNaziBitch
Hell, Michigan.
There’s this beautiful arch railroad bridge in New York called the Hell Gate Bridge. What a name. Apparently (like so much here in NYC), it’s a Dutch name that translates into “beautiful strait”, rather than the gates of hell.
251 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:48:32am |
252 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:49:53am |
Fucking Austria also brews a pale ale (helles Pils), marketed under the name Fucking Hell
253 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:50:26am |
How about a vacation visit to Sing Sing? (name has since been changed)
254 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:50:39am |
re: #241 Dr Lizardo
Heh. Yeah, I was in Europe when we were together. We’ve been to Fucking, Austria; that was her idea. :)
Heh I won’t ask for deets lol. I was however when I was in Vienna in a part of Austria where a lot of fucking goes on(Hotel was in the red-light district, great job community college tour leader!) I loved Austria though. Met a Slovak bartender who loved the fact I was part Slovak so she gave me and the roommate on the house shots of Jager and we made small talk. I wish I remembered the name of the place because it was a nice little dive.
255 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:50:41am |
Formerly known as Weekquaeskeek.
In 1642, Anthony Van Corlaer died while attempting to swim across the Hudson from Spuyten Duyvil. A witness to Van Corlaer’s death stated that “the devil” in the shape of a giant fish swam up and proceeded to “seize the sturdy Antony by the leg and drag him beneath the waves.”[2] This may be the earliest recorded shark attack in the New World.[2]
256 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:51:53am |
re: #252 Sol Berdinowitz
Fucking Austria also brews a pale ale (helles Pils), marketed under the name Fucking Hell
Shit, I’d try that just to get the bottle for my mancave. I have a bottle of “Duff beer” too and a Jug that looks like it held moonshine. Both weren’t really memorable in taste but still neat.
257 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:52:36am |
re: #242 Vicious Babushka
Kabbalat Shabbat incorporates some of the Kabbalist prayers into the service welcoming the Shabbat.
Kooks have given it a real bad name, but Tzvat is real pretty and worth a visit for the historical significance of being a center for Jewish learning that survived for centuries with all the turmoil in Jewish communities elsewhere being uprooted or forced out or overrun by wars (and surviving numerous earthquakes as well).
258 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:52:59am |
259 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:53:39am |
261 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:54:56am |
264 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:55:49am |
re: #257 lawhawk
Kabbalat Shabbat incorporates some of the Kabbalist prayers into the service welcoming the Shabbat.
Kooks have given it a real bad name, but Tzvat is real pretty and worth a visit for the historical significance of being a center for Jewish learning that survived for centuries with all the turmoil in Jewish communities elsewhere being uprooted or forced out or overrun by wars (and surviving numerous earthquakes as well).
My daughter lived in Tzefat for 8 years, had a really beautiful house which they now rent out to tourists. They live in Jerusalem now.
265 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:57:25am |
Oh look, Wikipedia even has a list.
266 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:58:11am |
268 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:59:04am |
269 | wrenchwench Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:59:24am |
270 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:00:16am |
re: #268 Feline Fearless Leader
IIRC, they did make munitions there.
271 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:00:49am |
re: #240 Ian G.
Coxsackie, New York.
And the towns from B&B include Butte and Weippie, Idaho, and Baggs and Meeteetse, Wyoming.
And nothing will ever beat this town’s name.
Edit: HappyWarrior beat me to it.
“For the British, it’s all about Fucking.”
272 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:00:58am |
re: #253 Feline Fearless Leader
Ossening NY - the prison name was a play on words. re: #264 Vicious Babushka
Hmmm….. the Mrs. missed out on seeing the Golan and Tzvat when we were there for our anniversary. Next time we go, we’re going to spend a few days up north. I had been thinking of staying in Kibbutz Lavi, but will keep this tidbit in mind.
273 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:01:00am |
275 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:01:54am |
Obama is no Atheist, he is a Muslim. Which is practically the same thing.— FreeRepublic.txt (@FreeRepublicTXT) November 5, 2013
276 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:02:17am |
re: #263 FemNaziBitch
Va AG is definitely going to be interesting. And honestly the Dem running for AG here is the guy on the ticket I like the most. Herring is the state senator just east of here and I know he helped a lot with stuff that involved my then community college.
279 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:02:54am |
re: #275 Gus
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Just like a giraffe and koala are. And despite what FR believes, Christianity and Islam have a ton in common.
281 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:04:12am |
re: #272 lawhawk
Ossening NY - the prison name was a play on words.
Hmmm….. the Mrs. missed out on seeing the Golan and Tzvat when we were there for our anniversary. Next time we go, we’re going to spend a few days up north. I had been thinking of staying in Kibbutz Lavi, but will keep this tidbit in mind.
She said they are already booked up for a year.
282 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:04:17am |
re: #280 HappyWarrior
And if you didn’t hate something before, by Obama taking a given position, you’ve identified what to hate making your hate options so much easier. /
283 | Ian G. Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:04:37am |
re: #275 Gus
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Yup. That’s why you see Sam Harris and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad embracing each other at rallies all the time.
What a maroon.
284 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:04:39am |
re: #281 Vicious Babushka
It wont be for a while… but that’s good to know.
285 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:05:10am |
re: #282 lawhawk
And if you didn’t hate something before, by Obama taking a given position, you’ve identified what to hate making your hate options so much easier. /
See, healthy eating.
286 | jaunte Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:06:09am |
re: #285 HappyWarrior
Children hate being told to eat their vegetables, because freedom.
287 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:06:14am |
re: #283 Ian G.
Yup. That’s why you see Sam Harris and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad embracing each other at rallies all the time.
What a maroon.
I have it on good authority that the Ayatollah and Christopher Hitchens went to the same pub. Amazing drinking contests they had.
288 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:06:17am |
DERP
It’s not an “Anti-Christian” law you Doofus, unless you define “Christian” as “Discriminating Against LGBT People”
Though it will likely die in the House, passage of the anti-Christian #ENDA underscores the importance of retaking the Senate in #2014— Matt Barber (@jmattbarber) November 5, 2013
289 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:07:21am |
Which Matt Barber totally does (defines “Christianity” as being a douche to gays as well as women)
290 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:07:52am |
re: #288 Vicious Babushka
DERP
It’s not an “Anti-Christian” law you Doofus, unless you define “Christian” as “Discriminating Against LGBT People”[Embedded content]
Well I am glad Matt has come out of the closet so to speak in the fact he’s admitting that his vision of Christianity includes discriminating against people because they’re gay. Well done old chap.
291 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:08:13am |
re: #288 Vicious Babushka
DERP
It’s not an “Anti-Christian” law you Doofus, unless you define “Christian” as “Discriminating Against LGBT People”[Embedded content]
“Anti-Christian,” aka making it unlawful to promote bigotry in the name of religion.
292 | Bulworth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:09:31am |
Sorry if this is a repeat but, from the NYT via Sully is this—
The woman, a thin 61-year-old who refused to give her name, citing privacy concerns, had come to the public library here to sign up for health insurance through Kentucky’s new online exchange. She had a painful lump on the back of her hand and other health problems that worried her deeply, she said, but had been unable to afford insurance as a home health care worker who earns $9 an hour.
Within a minute, the system checked her information and flashed its conclusion on Ms. Cauley’s laptop: eligible for Medicaid. The woman began to weep with relief. Without insurance, she said as she left, “it’s cheaper to die.”
But Obamacare/Medicaid expansion is Hitlerian totalitarianism. //
293 | GunstarGreen Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:09:59am |
re: #288 Vicious Babushka
DERP
It’s not an “Anti-Christian” law you Doofus, unless you define “Christian” as “Discriminating Against LGBT People”[Embedded content]
They absolutely do.
Any time you hear the phrases “Anti-Christian” or “Religious Freedom”, it’s because a bible-thumper’s ‘right’ to be an unashamed asshole to their fellow citizens is being threatened. They firmly believe that the United States was intended to be a theocracy, and that Separation of Church and State means that the state cannot tell the church what it can or can’t do under any circumstance.
294 | Bulworth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:10:50am |
re: #288 Vicious Babushka
What good is Christ’s resurrection if teh gay can still be accepted??!!!!1
295 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:10:59am |
re: #293 GunstarGreen
They absolutely do.
Any time you hear the phrases “Anti-Christian” or “Religious Freedom”, it’s because a bible-thumper’s ‘right’ to be an unashamed asshole to their fellow citizens is being threatened. They firmly believe that the United States was intended to be a theocracy, and that Separation of Church and State means that the state cannot tell the church what it can or can’t do under any circumstance.
All you have to do is read Bryan Fischer’s or Matt Barber’s Tweets to verify this.
296 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:11:16am |
re: #275 Gus
Obama is no Atheist, he is a Muslim.
Which is practically the same thing.
This tweet is quite a window into the conservative mind…
297 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:11:50am |
re: #292 Bulworth
Sorry if this is a repeat but, from the NYT via Sully is this—
But Obamacare/Medicaid expansion is Hitlerian totalitarianism. //
This is just like the time Hitlerhelped someone get more affordable health insurance massacred 6 million Jews because of pure hatred. Yep ACA is straight out of the Nazi playbook because when you think of Hitler,and the Nazis, you think of them making health insurance more affordable for all Germans regardless of ethnic and religious background not the whole genocide thing.
298 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:13:02am |
Remember. FreeRepublic.txt just quotes the Freepers like we do here sometimes.
299 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:13:24am |
re: #296 Sol Berdinowitz
This tweet is quite a window into the conservative mind…
And quite a vacuum in there, too.
300 | bratwurst Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:14:09am |
wow check out this exit pole http://t.co/zFqQOkh7FC— Tim Murphy (@timothypmurphy) November 5, 2013
301 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:14:12am |
re: #295 Vicious Babushka
All you have to do is read Bryan Fischer’s or Matt Barber’s Tweets to verify this.
Fischer I have noticed from the many tweets of him I see has never once talked about Christian charity. My grandfather was not a wealthy man but he still gave a lot of his money to a charity that helped kids with Downs. He also was always willing to give a toy to a friendly grocery store worker he knew had a young child. He had his prejudices but he also didn’t let them define him. Bryan and Matt meanwhile all they live for is hating gays.
302 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:16:06am |
re: #301 HappyWarrior
Bryan and Matt meanwhile all they live for is hating gays.
You do not understand his message: once we have banished gayness and promiscuity from our society, there will be no more poverty because our nation will again be blessed by The Lord.
303 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:16:58am |
re: #301 HappyWarrior
Fischer I have noticed from the many tweets of him I see has never once talked about Christian charity. My grandfather was not a wealthy man but he still gave a lot of his money to a charity that helped kids with Downs. He also was always willing to give a toy to a friendly grocery store worker he knew had a young child. He had his prejudices but he also didn’t let them define him. Bryan and Matt meanwhile all they live for is hating gays.
The New Christian Dogma is that giving is no different from enabling. We can’t go making people dependent. Rather let them starve then lead them down that path.
305 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:17:47am |
re: #302 Sol Berdinowitz
You do not understand his message: once we have banished gayness and promiscuity from our society, there will be no more poverty because our nation will again be blessed by The Lord.
Poverty is a natural state, we can’t go messing with G-d’s plan. Life was made for suffering.
306 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:17:48am |
re: #302 Sol Berdinowitz
You do not understand his message: once we have banished gayness and promiscuity from our society, there will be no more poverty because our nation will again be blessed by The Lord.
They’ll find a new target. Could be Jews, Muslims, Atheists, or even other Christians like Catholics, Lutherans, and mainline Protestants who don’t subscribe to their fundaemntalist world view. That’s the thing about these sobs. There’s always a new scapegoat.
309 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:19:29am |
Report as fake/spam http://t.co/B3mIPfPPtr— Matan Lurey (@matanlurey) November 5, 2013
310 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:19:39am |
So Mtit Romney says Obamacare is “rotting” Obama’s second term. Tell that to the people who are getting insurance or lower premiums you fucking prick. I know you’re a bitter man Mitt but please go away and enjoy your grandchildren and leave the rest of us alone.
311 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:21:05am |
re: #306 HappyWarrior
They’ll find a new target. Could be Jews, Muslims, Atheists, or even other Christians like Catholics, Lutherans, and mainline Protestants who don’t subscribe to their fundaemntalist world view. That’s the thing about these sobs. There’s always a new scapegoat.
Exactly! As a female, brown-eyed, brown-haired, German-Irish decent, raised RC person, I tend to remember that even in American South of the past, I could have been a target. Or NYC or any number of places immigrants and different people were targeted.
312 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:22:15am |
I think I found a Republican who outdoes Ken Cuccinelli even and like Cucci, he too has a shot at winning. Yeah Dean because Gays only live in Vermont and California. Dude sounds just like Ahmadinjad but honestly I think he’s worse given he’s one of our own.
talkingpointsmemo.com
313 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:23:39am |
Breitbartians are trying to keep hope alive by suggesting that low early voter turnout in Northern Virginia is a good sign. Obviously the writers there have never held a government job.
314 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:24:01am |
re: #311 FemNaziBitch
Exactly! As a female, brown-eyed, brown-haired, German-Irish decent, raised RC person, I tend to remember that even in American South of the past, I could have been a target. Or NYC or any number of places immigrants and different people were targeted.
Precisely. These people have pretty hostility to anyone who’s not a male Evangelical Protestant or if they’re Catholic or Lutheran, they have to be like Santorum or Bachmann.
315 | makeitstop Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:24:16am |
316 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:24:56am |
re: #313 Targetpractice
Breitbartians are trying to keep hope alive by suggesting that low early voter turnout in Northern Virginia is a good sign. Obviously the writers there have never held a government job.
Precisely. But let them get delusional. It will make Cuccinelli’s defeat all the more great.
317 | Mattand Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:25:16am |
re: #292 Bulworth
Sorry if this is a repeat but, from the NYT via Sully is this—
But Obamacare/Medicaid expansion is Hitlerian totalitarianism. //
This is also known as “A story you will never, ever see on CNN”.
318 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:27:30am |
re: #315 makeitstop
Snoop, or Coolio?
It was Coolio. Coolio apparently thought his street rep went down when Al covered Gangsta’s Paradise which is why he lied about having given Al permission to cover the song. Al apparently by law does not have to ask to cover but he does it anyhow out of common courtesy which I think is really cool on Al’s part since some songs he has asked to cover have a very personal importance to the songwriter in question. I remember reading though that Kurt Cobain knew Nirvana had made it when Al spoofed them and it’s a wonderful cover because while I love Smells Like Teen Spirit, I still ask my self” What do these lyrics even mean??
319 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:27:48am |
re: #301 HappyWarrior
Fischer I have noticed from the many tweets of him I see has never once talked about Christian charity. My grandfather was not a wealthy man but he still gave a lot of his money to a charity that helped kids with Downs. He also was always willing to give a toy to a friendly grocery store worker he knew had a young child. He had his prejudices but he also didn’t let them define him. Bryan and Matt meanwhile all they live for is hating gays.
Bryan has said that church soup kitchens should replace the SNAP program, that way guys like him can dole out the gruel and slut-shame the unmarried mothers with their little bastards.
320 | jaunte Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:27:59am |
re: #312 HappyWarrior
…in which the candidate suggested gays must have moved to Alabama from other areas since they’re not native to the state…
Yet another example of the required denial of reality conservatives must engage in to remain relevant to other conservative fantasists.
321 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:28:35am |
re: #317 Mattand
This is also known as “A story you will never, ever see on CNN”.
CNN would have a right wing washed up celebrity to talk about how bad ACA is before they would do that. Hell right now they’re focused with some front page bs about how Obama said something different then and different in the past. They’re not calling out the Republicans who claimed this legislation would be tyrannical at all.
322 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:29:03am |
323 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:29:23am |
turns out yesterdays “earthquake” in South Chicagoland was actually a quarry blast. Local news radio said it measured 3.5 on the richter scale.
It was weird who felt it and who didn’t. People to the East and West of me did and I didn’t.
324 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:29:59am |
re: #320 jaunte
Yet another example of the required denial of reality conservatives must engage in to remain relevant to other conservative fantasists.
Yep, it’s not enough to hate gays. You have to act like they somehow invaded your state. Is it wonder that kids get bullied in school more down there? I mean I can only imagine what kind of hatred these kids are learning from home.
325 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:31:20am |
re: #315 makeitstop
Snoop, or Coolio?
It was Snoop Dog. He had has hair braided and wired up to go in all directions like Snoop.
326 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:31:43am |
re: #319 Vicious Babushka
Bryan has said that church soup kitchens should replace the SNAP program, that way guys like him can dole out the gruel and slut-shame the unmarried mothers with their little bastards.
Ah the old church charity is better than government scam.
327 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:32:49am |
K-Mart to open at 6 in the morning…on Thanksgiving.
Because, fuck family holidays, that’s why!
328 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:32:56am |
re: #325 FemNaziBitch
It was Snoop Dog. He had has hair braided and wired up to go in all directions like Snoop.
It must have been both then because he clearly is spoofing Coolio on the cover of Bad Hair DAy
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329 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:33:14am |
re: #327 Eclectic Cyborg
K-Mart to open at 6 in the morning…on Thanksgiving.
Because, fuck family holidays, that’s why!
Family values…….
330 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:33:34am |
331 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:33:57am |
re: #327 Eclectic Cyborg
K-Mart to open at 6 in the morning…on Thanksgiving.
Because, fuck family holidays, that’s why!
Kmart vs. Forced Family Fun?
Kmart wins hands down!
332 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:35:22am |
re: #319 Vicious Babushka
Bryan has said that church soup kitchens should replace the SNAP program, that way guys like him can dole out the gruel and slut-shame the unmarried mothers with their little bastards.
Despite the fantasy land Bryan lives in, the reality is that many churches are unable or (if you can believe it) unwilling to provide such assistance. My MIL needed help paying her light bill during the winter in Pennsylvania. She went to a number of churches and not one would offer her any help.
In addition, many church outreaches and charitable efforts are stretched thin because of the increased need since the recession. At the church I go to, we haven’t been able to keep our food pantry even close to full because the need is so high.
Churches just don’t have the resources government does.
333 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:36:04am |
re: #320 jaunte
Yet another example of the required denial of reality conservatives must engage in to remain relevant to other conservative fantasists.
In a parody of Ahmadinejad?
334 | Ian G. Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:36:53am |
re: #330 FemNaziBitch
Scientists finally admit H1N1 vaccine causes increased risk of Guillain-Barre syndrome
Truth or Propaganda?
Propaganda. Natural News is big into holistic medicine derp.
336 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:37:54am |
This will make Glenn Greenwald’s head explode:
New face scanning billboards debut in the UK
Shoppers at discount store Tesco in the U.K. might get the unnerving feeling that someone is watching them. Something is. The chain is using sophisticated software to identify customers and beam ads at them. No, not by name: by demographic.
The software from a British company called Amscan can scan a person’s appearance and tell whether they’re a 50-year-old woman or a 20-year-old man. It does this based on visual cues that are proprietary and highly creepy.
In the example provided in a Businessweek article on the software, this pair might be captured on camera while putting gas petrol in their SUV two-door hatchback. When it’s midmorning, the middle-aged woman is more likely to buy coffee if it’s advertised to her; the young man might prefer a soda or energy drink. The system serves up ads to them accordingly on the gas pump screens.
337 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:38:01am |
re: #334 Ian G.
Propaganda. Natural News is big into holistic medicine derp.
I need links. A friend on fb posted this.
338 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:38:28am |
Apparently I missed the real doozy in Crazy Uncle Liberty’s remarks yesterday. The guy whose name is synonymous with “independent” voters, the guy who libertarians like to boast they’d vote for if he ever were on a presidential ballot…told folks at a rally here in VA yesterday that you’d have to be “insane” to vote for anybody but the establishment candidate.
339 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:38:36am |
340 | blueraven Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:38:46am |
Breaking: Toronto Mayor Rob Ford admits smoking crack
341 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:39:29am |
re: #332 Eclectic Cyborg
Despite the fantasy land Bryan lives in, the reality is that many churches are unable or (if you can believe it) unwilling to provide such assistance. My MIL needed help paying her light bill during the winter in Pennsylvania. She went to a number of churches and not one would offer her any help.
In addition, many church outreaches and charitable efforts are stretched thin because of the increased need since the recession. At the church I go to, we haven’t been able to keep our food pantry even close to full because the need is so high.
Churches just don’t have the resources government does.
There’s that and unfortunately some churches will refuse help to people of a different religion or if they’re gay. The whole private charity thing sounds good at first glance. I help out some myself but to use that as the only means of helping the less well off is a sure fire ticket to a society full of haves and have nots which already is a problem.
342 | Romantic Heretic Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:39:52am |
343 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:40:21am |
344 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:40:29am |
Why let facts get in the way of a good rant? ACA edition vol. (too many to keep track).
Today’s installment: HHS regs from 2010 that speaks to the claims that the ACA is forcing insurers to drop policies.
“The rule we’re announcing today preserves individuals’ ability to keep their current plan and provides strong consumer protections that give Americans more control over their health insurance choices.”
Grandfathered health plans will be able to make routine changes to their policies and maintain their status. These routine changes include cost adjustments to keep pace with medical inflation, adding new benefits, making modest adjustments to existing benefits, voluntarily adopting new consumer protections under the new law, or making changes to comply with State or other Federal laws. Premium changes are not taken into account when determining whether or not a plan is grandfathered.
Plans will lose their grandfathered status if they choose to make significant changes that reduce benefits or increase costs to consumers. If a plan loses its grandfathered status, then consumers in these plans will gain additional new benefits including:
Coverage of recommended prevention services with no cost sharing; and
Patient protections such as access to OB-GYNs and pediatricians without a referral by a separate primary care provider.
Details about what routine changes insurers and employers can make without losing their grandfathered status, and the projected impact on large and small employer plans and the individual plan market can be found at healthreform.govMost of the 133 million Americans with employer-sponsored health insurance through large employers will maintain the coverage they have today. Additionally, large employer-based plans already offer most of the comprehensive benefits and consumer protections that the Affordable Care Act will provide to all Americans this year - such as preventing rescission of coverage.
The roughly 42 million people insured through small businesses will likely transition from their current plan to one with the new Affordable Care Act protections over the next few years. Small plans tend to make substantial changes to cost sharing, employer contributions, and health insurance issuers more frequently than large plans. To help small businesses afford employee coverage, the Affordable Care Act includes a tax credit for up to 35% of their premium contributions.
345 | Ian G. Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:40:32am |
Here’s a good roundup:
re: #337 FemNaziBitch
I need links. A friend on fb posted this.
A good starting point to all the nuttiness Natural News believes in:
346 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:40:40am |
347 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:40:42am |
re: #340 blueraven
Breaking: Toronto Mayor Rob Ford admits smoking crack
That’s kind of the same as Ron Jeremy admitting he’s a porn star
348 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:40:48am |
re: #338 Targetpractice
Apparently I missed the real doozy in Crazy Uncle Liberty’s remarks yesterday. The guy whose name is synonymous with “independent” voters, the guy who libertarians like to boast they’d vote for if he ever were on a presidential ballot…told folks at a rally here in VA yesterday that you’d have to be “insane” to vote for anybody but the establishment candidate.
Yeah I saw that Ron Paul the “libertarian” went all out for the so-con asshole in a race where the Libertarian candidate may get the most votes ever received by a Libertarian here in the commonwealth. I honestly voted for Sarvis just to shove that in the face of Libertarians who think Ron Paul is hot shit. But then again remember that he supported Chuck Baldwin over Bob Barr in 2008 too. I mean Bob Barr is a fraud but at least he pretended not to be a so-con whackjob, Chuck Baldwin is very openly so-con whackjob.
349 | blueraven Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:41:58am |
350 | Flounder Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:43:31am |
re: #335 Gus
Actually it can. Alcohol doesn’t help you make the right choices.
351 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:43:51am |
352 | makeitstop Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:44:09am |
353 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:44:19am |
re: #330 FemNaziBitch
Scientists finally admit H1N1 vaccine causes increased risk of Guillain-Barre syndrome
Truth or Propaganda?
another link, that links to an actual study:
354 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:45:53am |
re: #348 HappyWarrior
Yeah I saw that Ron Paul the “libertarian” went all out for the so-con asshole in a race where the Libertarian candidate may get the most votes ever received by a Libertarian here in the commonwealth. I honestly voted for Sarvis just to shove that in the face of Libertarians who think Ron Paul is hot shit.
Yeah, I’ve lost count of the “indies” and “libertarians” who’ve browbeaten me for voting for the “establishment” candidate when I don’t really support him/her because I should vote only for the candidate I support…which is usually right before they admit they voted for the Republican because they didn’t want the Democrat to win.
355 | GunstarGreen Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:47:30am |
re: #354 Targetpractice
Yeah, I’ve lost count of the “indies” and “libertarians” who’ve browbeaten me for voting for the “establishment” candidate when I don’t really support him/her because I should vote only for the candidate I support…which is usually right before they admit they voted for the Republican because they didn’t want the Democrat to win.
Libertarians are just Republicans that are ashamed to admit their affiliation with the church.
357 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:50:14am |
re: #354 Targetpractice
Yeah, I’ve lost count of the “indies” and “libertarians” who’ve browbeaten me for voting for the “establishment” candidate when I don’t really support him/her because I should vote only for the candidate I support…which is usually right before they admit they voted for the Republican because they didn’t want the Democrat to win.
Crazy Old Uncle Liberty is a fraud. As you know, I’m a GMU alum so I’ve met quite a few professed libertarians who accept the Republican Party’s bullshit on social issues because they actually buy the GOP’s crap on economics as being good for them. I’ve met some who don’t but the vast majority of them are just in denial that they’re Republican party voters with a purist view on the economy and more personally socially moderate to liberal than your average Republican voter who despite that still vote the party line. I also have to say that the Libertarians have shown why they’ll remain irrelevant as a party indefinitely since they didn’t even bother nominating anyone for Lt Governor or AG. I like Herring though so the last one was an easy vote and the lady I voted for delegate has had a real positive campaign against her TP whacko opponent.
358 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:52:17am |
It’s kind of interesting. If you’re center-right but not overly religious, you really don’t have a place in either the Democratic or Republican party so you sort of become an independent by default.
359 | GunstarGreen Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:54:19am |
re: #358 Eclectic Cyborg
It’s kind of interesting. If you’re center-right but not overly religious, you really don’t have a place in either the Democratic or Republican party so you sort of become an independent by default.
And it’s at that point that you need to make a choice within the realities of the American political system. What’s more important? People, or money?
Your answer to this question determines which party you vote for.
360 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:56:20am |
re: #359 GunstarGreen
And it’s at that point that you need to make a choice within the realities of the American political system. What’s more important? People, or money?
Your answer to this question determines which party you vote for.
And I choose people every time. I’m not really center-right though so I’m not the kind of voter in question. I’m definitely more even though I do lean left on economics more of a social liberal than an economic lefty. I mean I’ve seen some of my more lefty friends on facebook propose really high tax brackets and I think they come off as naive as those who propose gutting the income tax all together.
361 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:56:32am |
HA!
Remember back when you had to write your tweets on the bathroom stall?— Bene (@benerdist) November 5, 2013
362 | Political Atheist Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:56:42am |
Category
Not The Onion
Speed faithing?!?
By Paloma Esquivel
October 30, 2013, 9:16 p.m.You have 10 minutes to sell someone on Catholicism, no more than that to distill the teachings of the Koran or the foundations of Mormonism.
It’s speed-dating for religion, and in a burst of faith-driven curiosity, dozens of students at UC Irvine raced from room to room Wednesday to listen to religious students (and two atheists) break down the core tenets of their belief system while on the clock.
latimes.com
363 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 9:57:22am |
Masters of Sex is a good new show. Random note. Lizzy Caplan is cute and I’ve admired Michael Sheen’s acting since I saw him play David Frost in Frost/Nixon.
364 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:00:01am |
FIRST-POST FLOUNCE on the dead thread.
365 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:00:33am |
366 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:01:10am |
On economics though, I refuse to subscribe the the dogmas of Capitalism, Socialism, or Communism. I like the free market but at the same time I do think that some things shouldn’t be privatized or that some things work both privately and publically. The dogmatic among us mostly on the right seem to think they live in a country of Capitalists(who they call freedom lovers) and Communists (who likewise they deem freedom haters). I ride public transportation to get to D.C and then I get a bite to eat and a drink at a private bar. I like both.
367 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:01:21am |
368 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:01:34am |
Morning Lizards.
Nobody burned the place down while I was gone, I see.
369 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:02:08am |
370 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:02:20am |
re: #367 FemNaziBitch
Did Your Senators Just Vote For Or Against ENDA? Here’s The Complete List
Thanks Tim and Mark. I’ve voted for both of you and you justified my votes.
371 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:02:39am |
re: #364 Vicious Babushka
FIRST-POST FLOUNCE on the dead thread.
Not even a very original one either. “You’ve changed Charles, you’re a cheerleader, you spend too much time hating on the people I support, you like Obama too much, etc.”
372 | Mattand Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:03:11am |
re: #364 Vicious Babushka
FIRST-POST FLOUNCE on the dead thread.
LOL, their only post since signing up a year and half ago, and it’s a flounce that garners -4 karma.
Classic.
373 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:03:22am |
re: #371 Targetpractice
Not even a very original one either. “You’ve changed Charles, you’re a cheerleader, you spend too much time hating on the people I support, you like Obama too much, etc.”
If Charles had a nickle for everytime he heard that, I bet he would be able to buy his own Hawaiian island.
374 | makeitstop Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:03:29am |
re: #368 klys
Morning Lizards.
Nobody burned the place down while I was gone, I see.
Welcome back! Good trip?
375 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:03:30am |
re: #370 HappyWarrior
Thanks Tim and Mark. I’ve voted for both of you and you justified my votes.
It is nice to know that, while our representatives can be a pick-and-mix bag, we have two senators who do have IQs above room temp.
376 | Ed E. Lishus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:05:01am |
re: #363 HappyWarrior
Masters of Sex is a good new show. Random note. Lizzy Caplan is cute and I’ve admired Michael Sheen’s acting since I saw him play David Frost in Frost/Nixon.
I’ve liked him since he played Tony Blair in The Queen.
377 | Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:05:02am |
Get a load of this guy!
Criticize Glenn Greenwald and he'll accuse you of being in a conspiracy with the evil UK/US governments. http://t.co/5BKEx4YYkr— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 5, 2013
378 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:05:34am |
re: #374 makeitstop
Welcome back! Good trip?
It was. Hot water is always enjoyed.
The giant pile of things to get done before I leave town on Thursday again is less wonderful.
379 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:06:23am |
re: #375 Targetpractice
It is nice to know that, while our representatives can be a pick-and-mix bag, we have two senators who do have IQs above room temp.
Yep and I’m probably going to get a good Rep since I hope to move back east soon enough. I’ll either get Jerry or Jim. I like Jerry more but Jim’s a character. Teh right acts like he’s a super liberal since he’s pretty partisan but like most Virginia Democrats, he’s a pretty moderate guy. I was really relieved that Jerry survived the wave of 2010. I didn’t worry about Jim since Arlington/Alexandria will go Republican when Ken Cuccinelli shows self-awareness.
380 | Internet Tough Guy Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:06:27am |
re: #367 FemNaziBitch
I am genuinely surprised by Hatch’s vote to kill the filibuster.
Or did I forget something?
381 | Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:07:06am |
Just as is true in the US, the UK govt gets trained journalists to take the lead in trying to criminlaize journalism http://t.co/IyycPgTIAk— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) November 5, 2013
382 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:07:10am |
re: #376 Ed E. Lishus
I’ve liked him since he played Tony Blair in The Queen.
I think he’s played Blair like three times. He was also on 30 Rock and quite funny on that. He played “Wesley Snipes” and hated that the actor of the same name “stole” the name from him.
384 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:08:05am |
RT @russfla: #GOP Logic #TedCruz #Tcot #hypocrite #UniteBlue pic.twitter.com/SbqHdLoAVU— JAN (@PomPrincessMomJ) November 5, 2013
385 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:08:12am |
re: #380 Internet Tough Guy
I am genuinely surprised by Hatch’s vote to kill the filibuster.
Or did I forget something?
He was down early as voting for ENDA. The real surprise to me is McCain not voting after his wife urged him to vote yes and his big shit cry about how ENDA was like forced busing.
386 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:08:38am |
387 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:08:50am |
388 | Ed E. Lishus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:09:24am |
re: #382 HappyWarrior
He played “Wesley Snipes” and hated that the actor of the same name “stole” the name from him.
That sounds effing brilliant.
389 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:13:07am |
Key point by @rustyrockets: society's most privileged & obedient often don't see repression b/c they're not targted http://t.co/pwZs7IEkg6— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) November 5, 2013
390 | Ed E. Lishus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:13:38am |
re: #383 FemNaziBitch
Yeah but all those things like science and minority rights are the war on religion to these clowns.
391 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:14:00am |
392 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:14:04am |
re: #389 Vicious Babushka
Which is, of course, why he’s whining so much about this shit and doesn’t give a fig about issues like stop and frisk.
393 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:15:31am |
394 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:15:40am |
re: #392 klys
Which is, of course, why he’s whining so much about this shit and doesn’t give a fig about issues like stop and frisk.
Seriously, you read about the police showing up to the wrong place and or shooting unarmed people usually poor minorities. That’s something that worries me far more than the NSA stuff. And as others have added, there’s been little to no talk about corporations gathering personal information either.
395 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:16:00am |
396 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:16:13am |
Don’t you know that white, privileged dudebros, like Greenwald & Snowden, are the most repressed minority in the history of forever?
397 | makeitstop Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:16:41am |
re: #378 klys
It was. Hot water is always enjoyed.
The giant pile of things to get done before I leave town on Thursday again is less wonderful.
Real life, it never stops.
399 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:18:35am |
Its election day in some places. Try not to run over any Fawkes mask wearing idiots on the way to the polls.— eclecticbrotha (@eclecticbrotha) November 5, 2013
400 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:19:31am |
“Nobody knows, the trouble I’ve seen…”
— Russell Brand
401 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:20:52am |
402 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:22:13am |
re: #399 Vicious Babushka
.@eclecticbrotha No probs bro. Doubt you'd find them anywhere near polling places. They'd consider voting to be a perpetuation of the system— lawhawk (@lawhawk) November 5, 2013
403 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:25:55am |
Potential Republican Texas Senate Candidate David Barton Claims Abortion Leads to Climate Change #UniteBlue http://t.co/0SP3fLSFBk #p2 #GOP— ooOo oOoo (@DMentalz) November 5, 2013
404 | William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:28:25am |
re: #362 Political Atheist
Category
Not The Onion
Speed faithing?!?
Rabbi Hillel did the best job of that when asked to sum up the entire Torah (IIRC, while standing on one foot):
“That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is the whole Torah; the rest is the explanation; go and learn it.”
405 | William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:29:56am |
406 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:30:34am |
407 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:30:44am |
408 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:31:38am |
People are still stupid enough to believe that Ron Paul had nothing to do with the Ron Paul Newsletters.
409 | calochortus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:36:00am |
re: #327 Eclectic Cyborg
K-Mart to open at 6 in the morning…on Thanksgiving.
Because, fuck family holidays, that’s why!
Not a new concept. 20+ years ago in southeastern PA K Mart used to suggest people put their turkey in the oven and then come on over to shop. They did not mention whether their employees were doing the same and would be able to go home to family and turkey dinner.
If I shopped there I could boycott them. I hate to see the idea of ‘holiday’ disappearing in retail.
410 | Ian G. Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:39:15am |
re: #403 Vicious Babushka
Wait, I thought climate change was a hoax?
411 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:40:35am |
re: #404 William Barnett-Lewis
Rabbi Hillel did the best job of that when asked to sum up the entire Torah (IIRC, while standing on one foot):
“That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is the whole Torah; the rest is the explanation; go and learn it.”
a/k/a/ The Golden Rule. Way too simple for most of us.
Life has to be harder —right?
412 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:54:53am |
413 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 11:10:30am |
re: #408 Gus
People are still stupid enough to believe that Ron Paul had nothing to do with the Ron Paul Newsletters.
I’ve always looked at it like this. Either Ron Paul wrote the letters and is a bigoted jackass or he’s too stupid to check what other people write in his name. Either way, not exactly a ringing endorsement of his judgment and worldview. The newsletters are enough for me to see why Ron Paul is a cuckoo bigot who we are fortunate will never be our president.
414 | MPH Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:34:42pm |
re: #225 Mattand
I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that MPH hasn’t bothered to look up what’s available for him on the exchange.
I’ve been researching insurance for my employees on the NY exchange. It would cost me about an extra $250/mo per employee for slightly worse coverage compared to what they have now through Aetna (which is similar to the silver plans in the exchanges).
415 | MPH Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:37:52pm |
re: #199 Varek Raith
Your concern is noted.
Now, what is the GOP alternative?
Oh, right. They don’t have one. They don’t care about the uninsured.
Unfortunately, GOP won’t need to present a meaningful alternative to profit from Obama’s lies. Look at at that nutty Cooch in Virginia surging in the polls based on that one issue alone.
Hope ‘n Change (TM)…
416 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:38:22pm |
re: #414 MPH
And these plans are 100% comparable - no lifetime caps, no exclusion for pre-existing conditions, same yearly out of pocket cap, free preventative care, etc., etc.?
417 | MPH Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:38:41pm |
re: #187 Vicious Babushka
Yeah, he is so totally going to lose in 2016!
He’ll probably lose the Senate and get smacked down in the House, yes.
418 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:41:43pm |
re: #417 MPH
He’ll probably lose the Senate and get smacked down in the House, yes.
/watches the point fly overhead
419 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:43:59pm |
re: #415 MPH
We’ll see about that ‘surge’. After the EPIC FAIL that was Dick Morris and Karl Rove’s predictions and polling a year ago, I have my doubts about a Cuccinelli surge in the Old Dominion.
420 | MPH Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:48:50pm |
re: #416 klys
And these plans are 100% comparable - no lifetime caps, no exclusion for pre-existing conditions, same yearly out of pocket cap, free preventative care, etc., etc.?
The Aetna plan they are on today is better then the more expensive Obamacare option across nearly every coverage point. The pre-existing conditions are not an issue with my employees or their families who are covered.
That said, in a perfect world, I don’t think employers should be buying insurance for employees. I’d much rather pay the cost of the insurance on to the employees and let them self-select a plan that is best for them. When people see first hand how much it costs, they start asking what is in this plan — and it puts downward pressure on the price. If there is one good thing to come out of this obamacare sticker shock news, perhaps many people who never considered it before will realize how ridiculous it is to be forced to buy something you don’t need. That isn’t how you incentivize the industry to control costs.
422 | MPH Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:53:31pm |
re: #421 klys
..Right. You actually have no idea of how insurance works.
Carry on.
Lol. Awesome job, dude.
423 | wrenchwench Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:55:34pm |
425 | MPH Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:55:19pm |
re: #424 klys
U mad, bro?
Actually, you made my day. The above noted “lol” was literal.
Though the politics are obviously different, nothing of substance has changed here over the past dozen years. Everyone is radically committed to their politics and they are always angry. It’s the same tried and true red meat for the wolves and down votes for the clowns.
Keep on keeping on.