Birther and Rush Limbaugh Fan Threatens the President, Gets Arrested

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An 81-year-old “birther” was arrested today and charged with threatening President Barack Obama’s life, according to federal court records.

Prosecutors allege that Elwyn Nels Fossedal was in a post office near his Wisconsin home last month when he announced, “If President Obama was here I would shoot him right there and kill him right now.”

When Secret Service agents confronted Fossedal about the threat—which was relayed to law enforcement by witnesses—he would not recant the statement and “repeated the threat using different words. He also made a number of additional threats towards the President,” according to a felony complaint.

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Fossedal, a retired Pfizer employee, appears to be a “birther” based on comments he has posted online. A Rush Limbaugh fan, Fossedal has also called for Obama’s impeachment over the Affordable Care Act and declared that, “We need to throw the Muslim in the White House, OUT.”

In a funeral home obituary for his wife, Fossedal is reported as having resigned from the Lions Club International because the community service organization purportedly “would not allow the worship of Jesus Christ” so that it could “be accepted by Islamic Nations.”

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125 comments
1 Origuy  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 8:57:26am

A great comment at The Smoking Gun called this guy a ‘guanophrenic “patriot” and bovine spongiform encephalopathy sufferer’.

2 Skip Intro  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 9:48:28am

I thought for a moment he might have bought that shirt from Limbaugh’s webstore, but then I realized how stupid that idea that was because there’s no huge picture of Limbaugh dressed up as George Washington on it.

3 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:28:11am

I feel bad for him, knowing this started after his wife died. He seems like he needs psychiatric care.

4 Amory Blaine  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:28:39am

Death of his wife pushed him over the edge. Might have been a cry for help. If he wasn’t such an asshole I might feel sorry for him.

5 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:34:10am

Sometimes, I think my Dad would have spewed similar hatred if his the stroke would have hit certain parts of his brain.

Old memes die hard.

6 Political Atheist  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:37:23am

re: #3 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I feel bad for him, knowing this started after his wife died. He seems like he needs psychiatric care.

Anecdotal but worrisome
Faux news is largely watched by those most at risk for age related dementia.
Judgement slips. I have to ponder a connection. How many of us have winced at this from grandparents or parents?

7 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:38:19am

A lot of people say threatening things about the president, online and off. I don’t think I’ve heard of any of them being charged these last six years.

8 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:39:01am

re: #6 Political Atheist

Anecdotal but worrisome
Faux news is largely watched by those most at risk for age related dementia.
Judgement slips. I have to ponder a connection. How many of us have winced at this from grandparents or parents?

yup—not using their higher thinking skills they way they used to.

9 b.d.  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:40:04am

This is Obama’s fault, obviously.

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10 Tim TeaBro  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:40:41am

Oh boy, here it comes.

11 b.d.  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:41:30am

re: #7 Rev_Arthur_Belling

A lot of people say threatening things about the president, online and off. I don’t think I’ve heard of any of them being charged these last six years.

My guess that has a lot to do with not being a douchebag to the Secret Service when they show up to talk to you.

12 Political Atheist  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:43:13am

re: #7 Rev_Arthur_Belling

A lot of people say threatening things about the president, online and off. I don’t think I’ve heard of any of them being charged these last six years.

Right, They were smart enough to retract, walk it back with the agency. “misunderstanding” followed by humble apology

13 Amory Blaine  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:43:24am

Yeah when the cops tell you your free to go you don’t punch him in the nose. His intransigence makes me suspect some kind of mental problem (in addition to making threats to the POTUS).

14 StephenMeansMe  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:43:51am

re: #1 Origuy

A great comment at The Smoking Gun called this guy a ‘guanophrenic “patriot” and bovine spongiform encephalopathy sufferer’.

Excellent. I’ll have to remember ‘guanophrenic,’ that’s borderline Shakespearean in its insult-elegance.

re: #6 Political Atheist

Anecdotal but worrisome
Faux news is largely watched by those most at risk for age related dementia.
Judgement slips. I have to ponder a connection. How many of us have winced at this from grandparents or parents?

My grandpa casually threw out the “Obama’s a Muslim” card one day, to everyone else’s instant “bwuh?”… he also once joked that he was moving to Arizona to join a border militia but everyone in the family believed him at that point. Fortunately he’s all talk. The irony is that his entire career (as far as I know) was in a Navy shipyard.

15 blueraven  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:44:29am

re: #6 Political Atheist

Anecdotal but worrisome
Faux news is largely watched by those most at risk for age related dementia.
Judgement slips. I have to ponder a connection. How many of us have winced at this from grandparents or parents?

Indeed. They scare the hell out of these elderly people who are already feeling the world is passing them by.

16 Stanley Sea  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:48:58am

Dammit Grandpa, you’re supposed to be enjoying your sunset years, not going down as a massive ball of hate.

17 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:49:17am
18 Stanley Sea  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:51:00am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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Is he still in jail?

19 Political Atheist  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:51:23am

re: #16 Stanley Sea

Dammit Grandpa, you’re supposed to be enjoying your sunset years, not going down as a massive ball of hate.

THIS

My elder family is rife with Fox

20 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:54:59am

Q. When are the birthers going to give up?

A. During Hilary Clinton’s second term.

21 Amory Blaine  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:56:06am

re: #19 Political Atheist

Most of these old people now have it real good. Pensions, cheap homes that have been paid for. All kinds of advantages their progeny can only dream of.

22 nines09  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:56:08am

Hate, fear and loathing. All for free every day from your AM Radio Hate Fests. This guy is a sad commentary on a life caught up in the bull shit the right wing throws out every single day. He’s in the middle of the forest and sees not one tree.

23 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:56:12am
24 Amory Blaine  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:56:56am

Jive turkey.

25 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:57:23am

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Every President pardons a turkey before Thanksgiving. Can’t these people get over it.

26 nines09  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:57:31am

re: #23 Charles Johnson

I imagine his kids have had goldfish die. Wait. I bet he killed them./

27 nines09  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:58:39am

re: #24 Amory Blaine

Jive turkey.

Jive ass turkey.
FTFY

28 Political Atheist  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:59:27am

re: #23 Charles Johnson

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So Presidential pardons don’t impart immortality?
Oh man what a let down. ///

29 Political Atheist  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:00:18am

re: #25 PhillyPretzel

Every President pardons a turkey before Thanksgiving. Can’t these people get over it.

Hey based on the usual menu…

How come nobody pardons a pig?

30 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:00:25am

re: #18 Stanley Sea

Is he still in jail?

Yes, right where he belongs.

31 nines09  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:00:53am

re: #29 Political Atheist
Hams come precooked.

32 Amory Blaine  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:01:14am

Casey J. Hoff: Scott Walker wrong to refuse to grant pardons

Scott Walker is the first Wisconsin governor who has stated that he will not pardon a single person during his governorship. He is not only alone in his position among former Wisconsin governors; he is alone nationally as well. Walker told WKOW-TV, “The only people seeking pardons are people who are guilty and I don’t have any reason to undermine the criminal justice system.” Since taking office in 2011, he has not pardoned a single person nor has he appointed any members to the Pardon Advisory Board.

33 nines09  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:02:49am

re: #29 Political Atheist
Or is it…………………Murdered?

34 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:03:29am

re: #32 Amory Blaine

Casey J. Hoff: Scott Walker wrong to refuse to grant pardons

Because criminals are criminals for life, no ifs ands or buts.

Moron.

35 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:03:54am

Clearly this old coot was a Liberal Plant to undermine the conservative cause!!

36 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:06:30am

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Don’t wear Beige, it could kill you.

37 nines09  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:07:09am

re: #34 Eclectic Cyborg

Because criminals are criminals for life, no ifs ands or buts.

Moron.

Not one single person doing time was ever found innocent afterwards. So there. Shit head.

38 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:10:37am

re: #37 nines09

Not one single person doing time was ever found innocent afterwards. So there. Shit head.

Is this a joke or did you miss my sarcasm in the first post?

39 Political Atheist  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:11:27am

Creepy resemblance to Ernest Borgnine.

40 nines09  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:13:15am

re: #38 Eclectic Cyborg

It was not directed at you. After I posted I saw that it could have been taken that way. I know where you’re coming from. I’m with you. Shit head is Scott. Mea Culpa.

41 nines09  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:14:03am

re: #39 Political Atheist

Creepy resemblance to Ernest Borgnine.

On acid.

42 A Mom Anon  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:24:15am

re: #36 FemNaziBitch

You’ll never catch me at Forever 21(which is just a gross store, IMO, ack) and I’m never going down in history as remotely stylish. But you’ll have to pry my t-shirts, jeans and Converse sneakers out of my cold, dead hands. That’s what I’ve worn since I was in high school and I will probably take my last breath wearing the same thing. My favorite pair of sneakers right now are a Converse knock off that are olive green with Chinese dragons embroidered all over them. I think I have a pair in almost every color except yellow, red and pink. I think if you wear what makes you feel comfy and good is what counts, fashion aside.

43 A Mom Anon  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:31:01am

I feel kind of bad for this guy, but damn it, this is almost an advertisement for what Hate Radio and TV does to people’s heads after awhile. It’s sad, and sadder to know that he’s got lots of company. My parents aren’t quite this bad, but my Mom used to watch Glenn Beck every day when he was on TV and it took it’s toll. She’s not a stupid person, but she has always suffered from anxiety, this crap has only made it worse as she’s got older(she’s in her early 70s). I think she’s slowly figuring out that a lot of this stuff is bullshit, but she can’t let go of her racism, which I think has been fueling a lot of the current stuff she’s latching onto.

44 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:36:04am

re: #42 A Mom Anon

You’ll never catch me at Forever 21(which is just a gross store, IMO, ack) and I’m never going down in history as remotely stylish. But you’ll have to pry my t-shirts, jeans and Converse sneakers out of my cold, dead hands. That’s what I’ve worn since I was in high school and I will probably take my last breath wearing the same thing. My favorite pair of sneakers right now are a Converse knock off that are olive green with Chinese dragons embroidered all over them. I think I have a pair in almost every color except yellow, red and pink. I think if you wear what makes you feel comfy and good is what counts, fashion aside.

I am so inspired by this video, I actually bought a copy.

45 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:42:05am

Handy Flowchart To Determine Which Religion (or not) Would Be Right For You

46 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:45:54am

bbl

47 A Mom Anon  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:46:42am

re: #44 FemNaziBitch

My Mother’s Mom was a lot like these ladies. She made most of her own clothing. She worked most of her adult life in a shoe factory, sewing leather and suede into work and casual footwear. She loved sewing and used lots of colors. I don’t ever remember seeing her in dull colors unless they were highlighted and accessorized with lots of bright colors. Much to her chagrin, her oldest granddaughter (me) loved to sew, but not wear makeup or tailored clothes and expensive footwear. Fashion was her art, she also had really stunning silver hair, she refused to color it. She would even put little bits of colored ribbon into her “do” sometimes, just for fun. She also had a full length mink coat with a little matching hat, I have no idea what happened to it after she passed.

48 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:48:31am

re: #47 A Mom Anon

My Mother’s Mom was a lot like these ladies. She made most of her own clothing. She worked most of her adult life in a shoe factory, sewing leather and suede into work and casual footwear. She loved sewing and used lots of colors. I don’t ever remember seeing her in dull colors unless they were highlighted and accessorized with lots of bright colors. Much to her chagrin, her oldest granddaughter (me) loved to sew, but not wear makeup or tailored clothes and expensive footwear. Fashion was her art, she also had really stunning silver hair, she refused to color it. She would even put little bits of colored ribbon into her “do” sometimes, just for fun. She also had a full length mink coat with a little matching hat, I have no idea what happened to it after she passed.

I think it’s their attitude that is so fantastic. One is 91 and in the House of Lords. The other is 85 and a fashion model. One is living on her State Pension and shops at thrift shops and is a political activist. All but one is widowed. The one that isn’t has a husband 30+ years younger than she.

49 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:49:43am

bbl again.

50 Aqua Obama  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:52:56am


KKK Member Walks up to Black Musician in Bar-but It’s Not a Joke, and What Happens Next Will Astound You

That friendship would lead Davis on a path almost unimaginable to most folks. Today, Davis is not only a musician, he is a person who befriends KKK members and, as a result, collects the robes and hoods of Klansmen who choose to leave the organization because of their friendship with him.

51 Mattand  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:55:12am

re: #7 Rev_Arthur_Belling

A lot of people say threatening things about the president, online and off. I don’t think I’ve heard of any of them being charged these last six years.

I’m sure doing it at a Post Office, aka federal property, ups the ante considerably.

53 Mattand  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:57:06am

re: #19 Political Atheist

THIS

My elder family is rife with Fox

I get the added joy of having to listen to Fox News all this week, courtesy of Thanksgiving travel.

The grip it has on the GF’s parents is frightening.

54 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 11:57:33am

re: #51 Mattand

I’m sure doing it at a Post Office, aka federal property, ups the ante considerably.

Not to mention repeating the threats and adding some more when the Secret Service shows up to talk to you.

55 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:07:00pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

Not to mention repeating the threats and adding some more when the Secret Service shows up to talk to you.

Yeah that’s what got me. I mean really, how stupid do you have to be to do THAT?

56 A Mom Anon  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:11:12pm

re: #55 Eclectic Cyborg
Maybe he wanted to go into custody? Or maybe dementia has begun setting in? His wife gone, he may have not had anyone left to look after him. Many of our elderly end up alone with no one who visits or cares for them. Especially if they’ve become combative or difficult.

Maybe now that he’s got himself into some serious trouble it will lead to him getting some help. One can hope at least. It’s still not cool what he did, but if he’s not really of “sound mind” I’m sure Hate Radio and Fox News did him no good at all.

57 Renaissance_Man  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:14:24pm

It’s really sad and frankly evil how Conservative hate cult media preys on those most vulnerable.

58 Lidane  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:16:53pm

Read this story carefully and try and figure out what’s missing. Once you’ve done that, then look at the comments:

Prison Justice: 23-Yr-Old Pedophile Gutted by Inmates After Bragging About His Crimes

Also, this site has almost 500K likes on Facebook. I weep for this country.

59 Balfour Rage  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:17:13pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

It’s the kiss of death from mr. Goldfinger. Birds did not stand a chance up next to the devil from Chicago.

60 Stanley Sea  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:19:07pm

re: #55 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah that’s what got me. I mean really, how stupid do you have to be to do THAT?

Stubborn old G-Paw.

add hate.

61 Balfour Rage  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:24:44pm

re: #58 Lidane

Read this story carefully and try and figure out what’s missing. Once you’ve done that, then look at the comments:

Prison Justice: 23-Yr-Old Pedophile Gutted by Inmates After Bragging About His Crimes

Also, this site has almost 500K likes on Facebook. I weep for this country.

Let’s see: No byline, no location, no dateline. Sounds perfectly legit to me!
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62 Mattand  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:26:02pm

re: #58 Lidane

Read this story carefully and try and figure out what’s missing. Once you’ve done that, then look at the comments:

Prison Justice: 23-Yr-Old Pedophile Gutted by Inmates After Bragging About His Crimes

Also, this site has almost 500K likes on Facebook. I weep for this country.

What stood out for me is the lack of any hard info; names, locations, links to another article about the “story”.

My SIL sent around some argle barge about a young woman who was 5 months pregnant with supposedly healthy twins, and had an abortion just because she could.

3 minutes of Googlng turned up the same story at places like WND and other nutjob sites. Once people hear a story that fits their narrative, facts can go pound sand.

63 Balfour Rage  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:27:24pm

re: #58 Lidane

The lack of quotes from any officials that investigated the “attack”? The numerous grammatical errors that would never get by the editor of a junior high newspaper?

64 Zamb  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:29:03pm

re: #62 Mattand

A friend of mine posted some nonsense about voter fraud in Ohio. According to this article a certain county had 100% turnout and 100% of them voted for Obama. Of course it took all of 5 seconds to look up that counties actual numbers. The only thing the article got right was that Obama won the county.

65 darthstar  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:29:12pm

Sad…the old fucker basically lost it after his wife died.

66 EmmaAnne  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:29:41pm

re: #58 Lidane

I bet one of the related stories tells of the hook-handed man and what he did to those poor teenagers.

It certainly allowed the commenters to get their two minutes of hate on though.

67 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:30:13pm

It’s almost 2:30pm and we are in a deep freeze.. For hours now the crawl on the TV has listed every church in Oklahoma that are closed today. There are literally thousands of churches in OK. Wouldn’t it be better to say, ” everything is fucking closed today and if you drive you’ll probably die today?” Did you know there is a Church of the Living God #290? I didn’t either..Well they are closed today…I wonder if the Church of the Living God #163 is closed today? Lucky we have the screen crawl..

68 Balfour Rage  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:31:08pm

I had to.

You fucking morons, all of you. Have any of you dimwits even bothered to notice that there is no byline, no location, and no dateline to the “story”? How about how that there are no quotes from any officials that investigated the “attack”? You sick, bloodthirsty fucks.

69 Lidane  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:32:28pm

re: #66 EmmaAnne

I bet one of the related stories tells of the hook-handed man and what he did to those poor teenagers.

It certainly allowed the commenters to get their two minutes of hate on though.

The comments on Facebook are just as bad. For a story with no actual information in it at all. It just presents the perfect fantasy scenario of a pedophile getting murdered in prison by his fellow inmates, and that’s enough for the hate to spew. Unreal.

70 A Mom Anon  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:32:38pm

re: #68 Balfour Rage
I applaud your effort, though I doubt you’ll make a dent in the stupid. But hey, you never know….

71 A Mom Anon  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:34:18pm

re: #67 HoosierHoops
hey, at least it keeps the person typing the screen crawl working….

72 darthstar  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:34:24pm
73 blueraven  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:39:22pm

re: #69 Lidane

The comments on Facebook are just as bad. For a story with no actual information in it at all. It just presents the perfect fantasy scenario of a pedophile getting murdered in prison by his fellow inmates, and that’s enough for the hate to spew. Unreal.

From what I have found this happened in England in July 2012.

Two prisoners who disembowelled an inmate so they could eat his liver were told by a judge today that they are likely to spend the rest of their lives in jail.

Michael Parr, 33, and Nathan Mann, 24, shared fantasies of killing while serving life sentences in neighbouring cells at Frankland Prison, County Durham.

They lured child rapist Mitchell Harrison, 23, into Mann’s cell where he was pinned down by Parr, Newcastle Crown Court heard.

Mann, described by a psychiatrist as “a remorseless, callous psychopath” who “harbours cannibalistic urges” and is “one of the most dangerous men in the criminal justice system” cut his neck with a scalpel made from plastic cutlery and a razor blade.

He also stabbed him in the eye with a pen and, after he was dead, cut his stomach open.

He and Parr had planned to cut Harrison’s liver in half and share it, but could not bring themselves to do it, the court heard.

…

Inmates lured child rapist to his death in ‘cannibal’ attack with plan to share his liver

74 Stanley Sea  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:41:16pm

re: #67 HoosierHoops

LOL.

75 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:44:49pm

re: #71 A Mom Anon

hey, at least it keeps the person typing the screen crawl working….

Hiya Mama! I read that back and felt bad cause I was kindof of mocking the Church of the Living God #290. I’m not..Just surprised there are 289 other Churches of the Living God franchise churches in the Southern Plains. I shant not mock the 290 fanchises here. When I was living in Indiana I spoke of the churches down south of me that handled snakes. Those fuckers freaked me out. Did you know Grace Baptist church is closed? Never crossed my mind! Lord forgive me..They are so easily mocked…
Oh wait..The United Methodists are closed today..I didn’t know they were ever divided…Man..lots of Churches here..

76 Lidane  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:49:35pm

re: #73 blueraven

From what I have found this happened in England in July 2012.

Inmates lured child rapist to his death in ‘cannibal’ attack with plan to share his liver

So it’s a real story, but it happened in England. And it didn’t happen for revenge, but because two raving psychopaths had fantasies of eating someone. Their victim could’ve been anyone behind bars, but it happened to be a child rapist.

Seems like a great reason to celebrate someone’s death. That’s what patriots do, apparently.

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77 darthstar  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:55:11pm

re: #67 HoosierHoops

You should get a bumpersticker for your car that reads, “My other church is…”

78 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:56:51pm

re: #66 EmmaAnne

I bet one of the related stories tells of the hook-handed man and what he did to those poor teenagers.

It certainly allowed the commenters to get their two minutes of hate on though.

Probably the same stoner who mistook his mom’s poodle for a pop tart and microwaved it.

79 blueraven  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:57:08pm

re: #76 Lidane

So it’s a real story, but it happened in England. And it didn’t happen for revenge, but because two raving psychopaths had fantasies of eating someone. Their victim could’ve been anyone behind bars, but it happened to be a child rapist.

Seems like a great reason to celebrate someone’s death. That’s what patriots do, apparently.

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Right…and actually I found what appears to be the original source and it happened two years ago. Oct 2011
The Independent story is right after the trial in 2012.

newsflavor.com

It is just something to outrage the “patriots”

80 darthstar  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 12:58:30pm
81 Dr. Matt  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:00:39pm

Old. Check
White. Check.
Wearing an American flag. Check
Nothing says right-wing “Patriotism” like wanting to murder the leader of your country.

82 A Mom Anon  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:03:14pm

re: #75 HoosierHoops

LOL, I know, there’s probably 20 churches within 5 miles of my house. This is GA after all. There’s one of those little Pentecostal snake handling churches not too far from here. Some of the churches are old, those tend to be smaller more modest ones, some as old as the 1800’s. The new ones are all gigantic, and yet their parking lots are never full on Sundays and the buildings aren’t used at all for anything during the week. Which is kind of good, when my kid gets his learner’s permit he can practice up there when he comes home for breaks. But it does make me wonder what the point of all those big buildings are that are barely used….

83 Lidane  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:04:59pm

re: #81 Dr. Matt

Old. Check
White. Check.
Wearing an American flag. Check
Nothing says right-wing “Patriotism” like wanting to murder the leader of your country.

An American flag and the Declaration of Independence. It’s the latest in patriotic fashion.

In all seriousness, I agree with the folks that said that his wife’s death likely pushed him over the edge. He was probably already a wingnut, but the emotional upheaval of losing his wife made him snap. It’s sad.

84 Lidane  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:06:22pm

re: #82 A Mom Anon

The new ones are all gigantic, and yet their parking lots are never full on Sundays and the buildings aren’t used at all for anything during the week. Which is kind of good, when my kid gets his learner’s permit he can practice up there when he comes home for breaks. But it does make me wonder what the point of all those big buildings are that are barely used….

The point is to show off God’s favor over the pastor of that church. You know, since God wanted them to be rich and have a huge, elaborate church. It’s Prosperity Gospel porn, basically.

85 Stanley Sea  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:07:21pm

re: #75 HoosierHoops

re: #82 A Mom Anon

Ha, my Step-Mom upon visiting Encinitas CA for the first time mentioned the lack of churches & steeples. Infidels out here, we worship the beach ma’am.

86 Mattand  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:08:58pm

re: #76 Lidane

So it’s a real story, but it happened in England. And it didn’t happen for revenge, but because two raving psychopaths had fantasies of eating someone. Their victim could’ve been anyone behind bars, but it happened to be a child rapist.

Seems like a great reason to celebrate someone’s death. That’s what patriots do, apparently.

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LOL, when I first went to the link and saw the page was titled “The Free Patriot”, I’m like: “Hookay, we’re tea bagging here.”

87 A Mom Anon  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:10:23pm

re: #85 Stanley Sea
I haz a jealous.

88 RealityBasedSteve  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:10:30pm

re: #71 A Mom Anon

hey, at least it keeps the person typing the screen crawl working….

How did the person doing the screen crawl get into to work?

RBS

89 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:10:35pm

Yep, the kitteh stare, and not just at Thanksgiving dinner…

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90 A Mom Anon  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:11:55pm

re: #88 RealityBasedSteve
4WD Monster Truck? With tire chains? A snow plow? LOL, I don’t know.

91 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:12:17pm

re: #85 Stanley Sea

Ha, my Step-Mom upon visiting Encinitas CA for the first time mentioned the lack of churches & steeples. Infidels out here, we worship the beach ma’am.

Love SoCal. It was 10-2004 when I took a vacation to San Diego and spent a week learning to Sail a boat. It was freaking awesome…Yes I can tack into the wind..Weeeee!

92 Aunty Entity Dragon  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:14:39pm

re: #19 Political Atheist

THIS

My elder family is rife with Fox

Same here. I get to listen to my mom talking about how Bible prophecy points to Obama is the possible Anti-Christ who will bring about the war against God etc.

93 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:17:43pm
94 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:18:43pm
95 Lidane  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:25:23pm
96 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:27:26pm

re: #95 Lidane

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Sounds like someone will be getting a visit from the Secret Service pretty soon. And maybe jailtime.

97 darthstar  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:34:57pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

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98 blueraven  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:36:20pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

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The alternative is the status quo and adding more sanctions.
No matter what you think of the rulers of Iran, you just cant back any country into a corner where they have nothing to lose.
The people were ready for something more moderate…but push their economy further into chaos with no way out and they will turn to the hardliners.

This is our last best chance to avoid war.

100 Lidane  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:36:51pm


War with Iran is a better outcome? WTF. These people are deranged.

101 ObserverArt  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:37:55pm

re: #95 Lidane

[oseph Laychock @Jersey_Joe59
Follow
Christian Tea Party Terrorist Claims 2nd Amendment Authority To Shoot President Obama! aattp.org …
2:08 AM - 24 Nov 2013 ]

Everest Wilhelmsen was named after the great mountain by his parents.

No doubt they must have been able to tell early on his head was a rock.

102 darthstar  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:39:22pm

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103 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:39:42pm

re: #100 Lidane

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War with Iran is a better outcome? WTF. These people are deranged.

I suspect they want WWII to happen again. So that the U.S. can once more be the saviour of the world. So that the U.S. can rebuild the defeated nations in its image.

Only the U.S. regards WWII as ‘The Good War.’

104 Balfour Rage  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:40:02pm

re: #102 darthstar

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LOL

105 blueraven  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:40:22pm

re: #99 Varek Raith

ABC panel laughs at Bill Kristol for claiming JFK would be ‘more comfortable’ as a Republican today

Hell, even Reagan wouldnt feel at home in today’s Republican party. Kristol is a tool and a fool.

106 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:40:58pm

re: #95 Lidane

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Good news is that FB has finally removed that post.
Now, if only the next SS visit arrest is that asshat.
Now if only Twitter can expel his sorry butt.

107 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:41:51pm

re: #100 Lidane

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War with Iran is a better outcome? WTF. These people are deranged.

FACT!

108 RealityBasedSteve  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:42:29pm

re: #98 blueraven

The alternative is the status quo and adding more sanctions.
No matter what you think of the rulers of Iran, you just cant back any country into a corner where they have nothing to lose.
The people were ready for something more moderate…but push their economy further into chaos with no way out and they will turn to the hardliners.

This is our last best chance to avoid war.

I have to agree with you… it’s not a perfect solution by any means at all, but by maybe opening up the inspection process, taking measures to get control of that 20% enriched Uranium, freeing up some of the held funds, and in 6 months hopefully there will be enough of an improvement in the general situation that the process can take another step forward.

As a side note, I’d be very interested in what the Saudi’s are doing on this. I almost have to think that they are being active behind the scenes in some way, they have absolutely no desire to see a nuclear Iran.

RBS

109 jayjaybear  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:43:03pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

Ah, Ben Shapiro…the man puberty forgot…

110 darthstar  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:43:27pm
111 darthstar  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:47:49pm
112 Lidane  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:47:50pm
113 blueraven  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:48:01pm

re: #108 RealityBasedSteve

I have to agree with you… it’s not a perfect solution by any means at all, but by maybe opening up the inspection process, taking measures to get control of that 20% enriched Uranium, freeing up some of the held funds, and in 6 months hopefully there will be enough of an improvement in the general situation that the process can take another step forward.

As a side note, I’d be very interested in what the Saudi’s are doing on this. I almost have to think that they are being active behind the scenes in some way, they have absolutely no desire to see a nuclear Iran.

RBS

As a Sunni Arab nation they also have no interest in seeing Shi’ite Iran re-join the global community.

114 Lidane  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:52:07pm

Because wasting 21 hours jabbering about repealing a law as a condition for keeping the government open had no effect at all on the Senate:

115 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:53:38pm

re: #111 darthstar

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{Sigh}

116 Varek Raith  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:53:38pm

re: #114 Lidane

Because wasting 21 hours jabbering about repealing a law as a condition for keeping the government open had no effect at all on the Senate:

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Youtube Video

117 jaunte  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:54:14pm

re: #114 Lidane

He has no shame at all.

118 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:55:14pm

That Everest lunatic is a real piece of work:

twitter.com

ofthehighest.wordpress.com

119 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:56:09pm

re: #109 jayjaybear

Ah, Ben Shapiro…the man puberty forgot…

The man that puberty said “put that bun back in the oven, it ain’t done yet.”

120 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:57:18pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

That Everest lunatic is a real piece of work:

twitter.com

ofthehighest.wordpress.com

Time for the SS to step in on that one.

Give them enough rope…

121 Lidane  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 2:50:42pm

Stating the Obvious, Libertarian edition—

122 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 3:07:18pm

HURR HURR Wingnuts are saying HE’S HARMLESS!11!!!!! WHO EVER HEARD OF AN ELDERLY SENIOR CITIZEN ASSASSINATING ANYONE??

The Holocaust Museum shooter.

123 Egregious Philbin  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 5:12:39pm

But…what is his Freeper Name?

124 jonhendry  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 5:27:07am

re: #50 Aqua Obama

collects the robes and hoods of Klansmen who choose to leave the organization because of their friendship with him.

He’s like the Predator. For Klansmen.

125 Jay in Oregon  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 10:19:57am

re: #92 Aunty Entity Dragon

Same here. I get to listen to my mom talking about how Bible prophecy points to Obama is the possible Anti-Christ who will bring about the war against God etc.

Out of curiosity, can they cite the chapter and verse that discusses “he who conceals the nation of his birth but wears the darkness of his sin on his countenance?” Because I’m pretty sure that’s not actually in the Bible.


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