2 | Kragar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:22:21am |
What part of New Jersey is that? RT @sherifffruitfly: AND WILDSTEIN IS FOUND IN CONTEMPT— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) January 9, 2014
3 | erik_t Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:24:04am |
4 | First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:24:08am |
re: #1 Dr. Matt
Needs some yellow highway stripes down the middle.
edit: and safety cones in the above “fixed” version.
5 | Dr. Matt Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:24:48am |
LGF has the 5th and 6th listings on Google for “Brideghazi”
7 | Bulworth Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:28:36am |
re: #1 Dr. Matt
Typical libtards, beating this dead horse of a nonscandal that has been investigated over and over already so shutup it’s over move on get over it
8 | makeitstop Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:28:44am |
I think if Christie had any thoughts that he could put all of this behind him today, he gave them up after the second invocation of the 5th by Wildstein.
Is it okay to start using the term ‘stonewalling’ again?
9 | b.d. Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:29:58am |
re: #5 Dr. Matt
LGF has the 5th and 6th listings on Google for “Brideghazi”
#BridgeGhazi is best hashtag on the Internet
— Andrew Kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) January 8, 2014
I won't rest until I hear the word “Bridgeghazi” come out of Wolf Blitzer's mouth.
— YeaYouRite (@YeaYouRite) January 8, 2014
10 | Kragar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:30:35am |
re: #7 Bulworth
Typical libtards, beating this dead horse of a nonscandal that has been investigated over and over already so shutup it’s over move on get over it
All of this is a distraction to keep people from talking about…
1) Benghazi
2) The Gates Book
3) The complete and utter failure of Obamacare
4) Chemtrails
5) New Coke
12 | makeitstop Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:30:56am |
Seen on Facebook a minute ago:
‘Chris Christie - too big for his bridges.’
13 | b.d. Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:31:36am |
heh:
So now there are multiple idiots praising the #Bridgeghazi hashtag. #Douchenami
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) January 9, 2014
14 | Bulworth Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:32:16am |
Unlike with Benghazi, a true scandal, we have no more questions about this bridgeghazi thing because all the emails and investigations have been released and we know it all but we still have many, many questions about Benghazi although we know it was a scandal and O should be impeached hells yesss
15 | lawhawk Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:32:37am |
re: #13 b.d.
So, would he prefer #GWBVendetta? /just asking the questions here. What did you know, and when did you know that Christie’s career light is blinking in the red?
17 | Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:34:04am |
Good thing this bridge didn’t lead into Gotham. Otherwise Wildstein and maybe Christie would get visits from Batman.
//
18 | Bulworth Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:34:28am |
re: #13 b.d.
No, no, no, no, Ben. That is not how you troll a thread.
19 | Dr. Matt Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:34:54am |
re: #13 b.d.
So now there are multiple idiots praising the #Bridgeghazi hashtag. #Douchenami
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) January 9, 2014
Priceless butthurt from the shabby knock-off of Airwick Erickson
20 | Just never mind. Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:36:01am |
He’s such a stupid…
“Christie: ‘I’m embarrassed and humiliated’”
As well he should be!
21 | lawhawk Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:36:15am |
Perspective: @GovChristie didn't allow those responsible to resign, he fired them. Lois Lerner took the 5th, got paid leave & retired.— Derek Hunter (@derekahunter) January 9, 2014
Ummm… Not exactly. In fact, wrong. Completely wrong.
Kelly was the only one fired, and should have been the latest in a chain of firings.
Wildstein and Baroni resigned/retired and werent’ fired.
Wildstein just spent the afternoon claiming the 5th in avoiding any statements that might put him in jeopardy of potential criminal charges.
Baroni may soon duplicate him.
And the IRS was going after all political entities seeking nonprofit status, not just TPers. Keep on peddling that nonsense though.
22 | sagehen Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:36:24am |
re: #15 lawhawk
So, would he prefer #GWBVendetta? /just asking the questions here. What did you know, and when did you know that Christie’s career light is blinking in the red?
it’s official RNC policy to never publicly mention GWB.
23 | wrenchwench Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:38:15am |
re: #22 sagehen
it’s official RNC policy to never publicly mention GWB.
That goes for both the bridge and the former president.
24 | erik_t Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:38:30am |
re: #21 lawhawk
Also too, having people fill out extra annoying shitty IRS forms is exactly like intentionally blocking emergency vehicles from serving your state’s residents.
25 | Bulworth Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:39:00am |
re: #22 sagehen
first rule of GWB club is to never mention GWB.
26 | lawhawk Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:39:07am |
.@seanhannity Political vendetta versus GOP obstructionism to block millions from getting affordable health insurance. it's same, but diff.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) January 9, 2014
28 | makeitstop Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:40:45am |
Sweet Jesus, Hannity is dumb as a fucking rock.
29 | Dr. Matt Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:40:50am |
re: #5 Dr. Matt
LGF has the 5th and 6th listings on Google for “Brideghazi”
Woh. Charles did some google ninja skills and now LGF is in first place.
30 | gwangung Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:41:51am |
re: #21 lawhawk
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Ummm… Not exactly. In fact, wrong. Completely wrong.
….And the IRS was going after all political entities seeking nonprofit status, not just TPers. Keep on peddling that nonsense though.
Political entities seeking non-profit status, which meant they couldn’t do political activities, right?
I’m not sure why they think the IRS SHOULDN’T examine them more closely…
31 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light) Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:42:50am |
re: #28 makeitstop
Sweet Jesus, Hannity is dumb as a fucking rock.
He is not dumb, he has a agenda to promote and a target audience to entertain.
32 | Political Atheist Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:42:50am |
re: #5 Dr. Matt
LGF has the 5th and 6th listings on Google for “Brideghazi”
If anyone pages it, it goes to #1. Amazing how that works.
33 | Kragar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:42:59am |
I understand you don't see it much where you work, but this is what the rest of the world calls “News” @seanhannity #tcot #UniteBlue #LNYHBT— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) January 9, 2014
34 | dog philosopher Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:43:03am |
CNN/ORC Poll. Dec. 16-19, 2013
hillary clinton vs
jeb bush 58/37
chris christie 46/48
ted cruz 57/39
mike huckabee 55/40
rand paul 54/41
rick perry 56/39
paul ryan 52/44
mark rubio 56/37
rick santorum 57/38
um that puts lyin’ ryan in the lead…
35 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:43:16am |
re: #22 sagehen
it’s official RNC policy to never publicly mention GWB.
In this case its a matter of fairness, since George W. Bush has never been a man to indulge in petty vindictiveness.
And no, Iraq is included in that. Involving the nation aside, Saddam Hussein did try to kill George Bush the Elder. Unlike refusing an endorsement, that is grounds for a vendetta in my book.
36 | Lidane Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:43:56am |
What happens when you read Ben Shapiro’s Twitter TL:
A bored polar bear. pic.twitter.com/XjxZYj8r5M— Cute Emergency (@CuteEmergency) January 9, 2014
37 | b.d. Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:44:46am |
BREAKING NEWS - WE STILL DON’T LIKE OBAMACARE….DEVELOPING…
38 | erik_t Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:44:53am |
re: #35 Dark_Falcon
And no, Iraq is included in that. Involving the nation aside, Saddam Hussein >did try to kill George Bush the Elder. Unlike refusing an endorsement, that is grounds for a vendetta in my book.
Your own vendetta, sure. Your country’s? Yeah, you don’t get to just fucking handwave that away.
If Dubya had wanted to buy an old oil tanker and go take potshots at the coast, rather than get a few of my friends killed, maybe I’d allow him that.
I’m going to go be angry somewhere else for a while.
Fuck.
39 | jaunte Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:45:17am |
re: #28 makeitstop
Sweet Jesus, Hannity is dumb as a fucking rock.
That could be perceived as geologically insensitive.
40 | Lidane Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:45:46am |
re: #35 Dark_Falcon
And no, Iraq is included in that. Involving the nation aside, Saddam Hussein >did try to kill George Bush the Elder. Unlike refusing an endorsement, that is grounds for a vendetta in my book.
Lying the US into invading Iraq to solve his daddy issues is the textbook definition of petty vindictiveness.
41 | blueraven Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:46:11am |
So the redacted emails…who turned them over?
Are we supposed to believe that Christie knew nothing about these emails until yesterday morning? I mean…my God, they were awful. Nobody warned him?
42 | Stanley Sea Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:46:36am |
43 | jaunte Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:47:11am |
re: #41 blueraven
Imagine what he could do with a whole executive branch cabinet to ignore.
44 | Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:47:12am |
He's persecuted! RT @RightWingWatch New artwork at Glenn Beck's HQ - the @newyorktimes trying to stamp out @theblaze: pic.twitter.com/xlmcMJxExU— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 9, 2014
45 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:48:15am |
re: #34 dog philosopher
CNN/ORC Poll. Dec. 16-19, 2013
hillary clinton vs
jeb bush 58/37
chris christie 46/48
ted cruz 57/39
mike huckabee 55/40
rand paul 54/41
rick perry 56/39
paul ryan 52/44
mark rubio 56/37
rick santorum 57/38um that puts lyin’ ryan in the lead…
He’s not going to be able to run for president. Paul Ryan has to broker compromises in his role as House Budget Committee Chairman, and that makes him ‘impure’. Moreover, I’m not sure he’d be a very good president. Paul Ryan is very much a ‘details person’, and generalists tend to do better in the Oval Office.
/One man’s opinion.
46 | Lidane Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:48:21am |
GOHMERT! is feeling neglected:
Louie Gohmert claims Obamacare will collapse like the Soviet Union, even if it takes 70 years http://t.co/9OMeJLVOm2— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) January 9, 2014
47 | sagehen Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:48:33am |
re: #44 Charles Johnson
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The semiotic intent is laughable, but as graphic design I rather like it….
48 | Aunty Entity Dragon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:49:41am |
As has been pointed out elsewhere…Christie didn’t just throw Kelly et al under the bus, he backed over them repeatedly, took a leak on the corpses and then nuked the whole site from orbit.
He better be damned sure that they can’t come back at him…because a US attorney started an investigation yesterday. Kelly and company will be high on the supoena list…5th amendment notwithstanding.
49 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:49:44am |
Cute. I just noticed the quote in the subtitle. Between this and not getting DF’s joke downstairs, I must be especially dim today.
50 | GlutenFreeJesus Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:49:57am |
re: #35 Dark_Falcon
In this case its a matter of fairness, since George W. Bush has never been a man to indulge in petty vindictiveness.
And no, Iraq is included in that. Involving the nation aside, Saddam Hussein >did try to kill George Bush the Elder. Unlike refusing an endorsement, that is grounds for a vendetta in my book.
Ask the families of the dead and maimed how they feel about that vendetta.
51 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:50:08am |
re: #40 Lidane
Lying the US into invading Iraq to solve his daddy issues is the textbook definition of petty vindictiveness.
It was a lot more than that. And all I’m saying is that Bush’s vindictiveness was in my mind not ‘petty’, YMMV
52 | Political Atheist Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:51:24am |
re: #40 Lidane
“His daddy issues”?
As if a plot to kill a former president is just a mental hang up? I’m not saying we should have invaded. But if some tyrant gets caught trying to kill a former President now, i would expect President Obama to respond strongly. Not an invasion, but better be more than a UN angry letter. Or if the next President finds a plot to assassinate Obama I would expect the same.
53 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:53:04am |
54 | Aunty Entity Dragon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:53:07am |
55 | wrenchwench Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:55:25am |
re: #51 Dark_Falcon
It was a lot more than that. And all I’m saying is that Bush’s vindictiveness was in my mind not ‘petty’, YMMV
re: #52 Political Atheist
“His daddy issues”?
As if a plot to kill a former president is just a mental hang up? I’m not saying we should have invaded. But if some tyrant gets caught trying to kill a former President now, i would expect President Obama to respond strongly. Not an invasion, but better be more than a UN angry letter. Or if the next President finds a plot to assassinate Obama I would expect the same.
Meanwhile, almost 3,000 people were actually murdered in NYC and DC, and Bush the younger should have kept his eye on the ball instead of avenging pops.
56 | Political Atheist Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:56:05am |
re: #35 Dark_Falcon
Can you imagine a tyrant getting caught in a plot to kill a former President and the guy in the oval office just says “meh, moving on…” ?!
57 | dog philosopher Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:56:45am |
re: #54 Aunty Entity Dragon
Glen Beck’s new term for the Bridgeghazi:
Oh dear…
christie is in the unfortunate position of having no friends left on the right to come to his defense
58 | wrenchwench Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:57:02am |
re: #56 Political Atheist
Can you imagine a tyrant getting caught in a plot to kill a former President and the guy in the oval office just says “meh, moving on…” ?!
Straw meh.
/
59 | Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:58:57am |
re: #44 Charles Johnson
I don’t even want to know how much he paid for that monstrosity.
60 | Lidane Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:59:07am |
re: #51 Dark_Falcon
It was a lot more than that.
Sure. It involved yellowcake, and mushroom clouds too. It also involved ignoring the obvious fact that OBL hated secular dictators like Saddam, so bullshitting the nation by trying to create links between Iraq and 9/11 only added to the mountain of lies they told so Dubya could solve his daddy issues.
And all I’m saying is that Bush’s vindictiveness was in my mind not ‘petty’, YMMV
True. He wasted trillions of dollars and cost us thousands of lives with the Iraq invasion.
61 | b.d. Thu, Jan 9, 2014 11:59:38am |
I'm on the phone with Jeb Bush. #CrisisMode
— GOP Establishment (@EstablishmentDC) January 9, 2014
62 | piratedan Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:00:08pm |
all I can say is that Gov. Christie’s explanation and summation of events has more plot holes than a Gamera movie.
63 | Political Atheist Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:00:43pm |
re: #55 wrenchwench
Seems to me we did plenty in Afghanistan by any measure. There is no guarantee it would have turned out any different. Invading iraq was wrong because the weapons were not there.
Let’s try to remember who signed off on regime change as US policy. Pres. Clinton. That case did not get any weaker with the plot. Nor with Saddams subsequent belligerence.
64 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:00:52pm |
re: #54 Aunty Entity Dragon
Glen Beck’s new term for the Bridgeghazi:
Oh dear…
He who lives in a glass house should not throw stones.
65 | Gus Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:00:58pm |
re: #54 Aunty Entity Dragon
Glen Beck’s new term for the Bridgeghazi:
Oh dear…
More stupid fat shaming.
66 | GlutenFreeJesus Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:02:27pm |
BTW, What Plot to kill Bush Sr.? Sorry if I don’t believe the Kuwaitis who had a lot to gain from some such “news”, having been invaded by Iraq not long before 1993.
67 | Kragar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:02:58pm |
re: #62 piratedan
all I can say is that Gov. Christie’s explanation and summation of events has more plot holes than a Gamera movie.
Objection!
Gamera is friend to all children!
Christie? Not so much.
68 | Lidane Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:03:15pm |
re: #52 Political Atheist
“His daddy issues”?
Yes, his daddy issues. I stand behind that firmly.
Dubya’s staff was largely made up of people from his daddy’s administration. They were upset that they didn’t “finish the job” after the first Gulf War and they bullshitted a link between Iraq and 9/11 to manipulate people into supporting invasion.
The Afghanistan invasion made sense. Iraq will always be Bush’s daddy issues war.
69 | Kragar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:04:00pm |
70 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:04:38pm |
Can we just talk about Christie or current events, Please. I’m sorry I even posted about George W. Bush. Lots of folks here are still pissed at him and I should have remembered that.
I’m sorry.
71 | wrenchwench Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:06:14pm |
re: #63 Political Atheist
Seems to me we did plenty in Afghanistan by any measure. There is no guarantee it would have turned out any different. Invading iraq was wrong because the weapons were not there.
Let’s try to remember who signed off on regime change as US policy. Pres. Clinton. That case did not get any weaker with the plot. Nor with Saddams subsequent belligerence.
MBF?
72 | piratedan Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:06:15pm |
re: #67 Kragar
Objection!
Gamera is friend to all children!
Christie? Not so much.
Overruled!
No such claim was ever made to the context of Gamera’s character…. It’s just that Gov. Christie is obviously working on Plan Z, which is to lure the media into a single location and then launch them into space…… ////
73 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:06:25pm |
re: #69 Kragar
When you can attacks the case, attack the plantiffs
You know who always believed in personalizing attacks when possible?
Saul Alinsky.
/Written in jest.
74 | ObserverArt Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:06:27pm |
re: #28 makeitstop
Sweet Jesus, Hannity is dumb as a fucking rock.
Just carrying Roger Ailes water.
And following just behind with the broom and dustpan…and a bag!
75 | wrenchwench Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:07:47pm |
re: #73 Dark_Falcon
You know who always believed in personalizing attacks when possible?
Saul Alinsky.
/Written in jest.
Not funny if you actually know anything about the man.
76 | Stanley Sea Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:07:59pm |
re: #53 Dark_Falcon
I really wish Pope Francis would call out the ignoramuses who use that hashtag. I know he has better things to do, but it would make for a truly epic smackdown.
I don’t get it, it’s not religious is it? I believe Hannity started it.
It just cracks me up how weak these lnyhbt peeps are.
77 | Bulworth Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:08:18pm |
re: #41 blueraven
So the newspapers got some emails released or was it this committee?
79 | Kragar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:09:29pm |
To believe Christie you must believe he saw no evil, heard no evil, spoke no evil for the entire 5 months of this matter.— Chris Matthews (@hardball_chris) January 9, 2014
80 | wrenchwench Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:09:30pm |
81 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:09:40pm |
re: #71 wrenchwench
MBF?
Sorry, the Magical Balance Fairy isn’t available this afternoon. Some her fellow fairies’ friends got stuck in traffic due to the lane closures and thus she’s in her home studying. It is rumored she plans to turn Chris Christie into a newt.
////
82 | lawhawk Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:09:50pm |
24 — Number of times Gov. Christie said “apologize” or “apologized” 19 — Number of times Gov. Christie said “mistake” http://t.co/uy0m525fTc— New York Daily News (@NYDailyNews) January 9, 2014
Number of times that Wildstein pleaded the 5th in his hearing this afternoon: Off. The. Charts.
83 | Political Atheist Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:10:05pm |
84 | Lidane Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:10:29pm |
re: #65 Gus
More stupid fat shaming.
Oh, and just for the record, if your reaction to #Bridgeghazi is to make Christie fat jokes, you fail at everything.— Jeff Fecke (@jkfecke) January 8, 2014
85 | darthstar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:10:30pm |
Was @GovChristie taking a jab at @BarackObama when he said, “I've never shut down the government” during his two hour apology filibuster?— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) January 9, 2014
87 | Kragar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:11:03pm |
Christie Can't Guarantee Political Retribution Limited To Bridge Scandal http://t.co/ouJp8wLtPU— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) January 9, 2014
88 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:11:06pm |
re: #75 wrenchwench
Not funny if you actually know anything about the man.
I was making fun of wingnut shouts of “Alinsky Tactics!!1” aimed at Barack Obama.
89 | b.d. Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:11:54pm |
90 | wrenchwench Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:12:11pm |
re: #88 Dark_Falcon
I was making fun of wingnut shouts of “Alinsky Tactics!!1” aimed at Barack Obama.
Yeah, I figured. I updinged your next, more successful, effort.
91 | Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:12:19pm |
re: #77 Bulworth
So the newspapers got some emails released or was it this committee?
Newspaper from what I understand.
But newly revealed emails, also obtained by The Record, also show that Christie officials reveled in the lane closures particularly because they would force Sokolich and his constituents to endure some serious traffic woes.
92 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:12:44pm |
re: #84 Lidane
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Retweeted, because its important. Fat jokes make Christie into the victim and the person telling the “joke” into an ass.
94 | Pie-onist Overlord Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:13:41pm |
HURR HURR TEH IRS IS WORSER THEN TEH SLAVERYS!!!!!1!!!1!!!
Media devotes 17 times more coverage to Christie scandal than IRS scandal: http://t.co/bYOAzUoT6U via @youtube— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) January 9, 2014
95 | lawhawk Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:14:11pm |
Woman Says Lane Closings Were Not to Blame for Her Mother’s Death http://t.co/niJFxnLSl3— NYT Metro Desk (@NYTMetro) January 9, 2014
96 | b.d. Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:14:16pm |
Christie: Only nerds think I bully, coach.
— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) January 9, 2014
97 | Aunty Entity Dragon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:14:22pm |
re: #62 piratedan
all I can say is that Gov. Christie’s explanation and summation of events has more plot holes than a Gamera movie.
But we need a giant fire breathing turtle who flies….
Mitch McConnell??
98 | ObserverArt Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:14:59pm |
So, now we are going to get the Christie Apology Tour of 2014?
Funny if they show him standing outside a locked door to the office of the Mayor of Fort Lee.
99 | Pie-onist Overlord Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:15:02pm |
Yeah but Bryan, it’s also OK if both of them are the same sex.
American College of Pediatricians: children need both a mother and a father: http://t.co/DzuOeOO3UX via @youtube— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) January 9, 2014
100 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:15:25pm |
Floral, you did get a card for your new relative down in SD, I presume.
101 | darthstar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:17:26pm |
Wildstein had two amendments to choose from to protect Christie, so he took the 5th. (other choice was the 2nd). #bridgegate— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) January 9, 2014
103 | ObserverArt Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:18:35pm |
re: #35 Dark_Falcon
In this case its a matter of fairness, since George W. Bush has never been a man to indulge in petty vindictiveness.
And no, Iraq is included in that. Involving the nation aside, Saddam Hussein >did try to kill George Bush the Elder. Unlike refusing an endorsement, that is grounds for a vendetta in my book.
Got it. Invading a sovereign nation is a-okay to fulfill a vendetta.
Amazing how you can excuse something like that.
104 | Aunty Entity Dragon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:18:50pm |
re: #84 Lidane
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Considering how venomous he has been to public school teachers and just about anybody who has asked him a question in public…I don’t give a shit if fat jokes are made at his expense.
He wanted to be an ass…he can be treated like one.
105 | Dr. Matt Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:18:53pm |
re: #99 Pie-onist Overlord
American College of Pediatricians: children need both a mother and a father
— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) January 9, 2014
The American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) is a socially conservative association of pediatricians and other healthcare professionals in the United States. The College was founded in 2002 by a group of pediatricians including Joseph Zanga, a past president of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), as a protest against the AAP’s support for adoption by gay couples. Per en.wikipedia.org
Shocking.
106 | lawhawk Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:18:58pm |
http://t.co/SK5i4ZBveV MT @kasie: Senate nearing deal on extending #UI through November; plan paid for by extending sequester for a year— Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) January 9, 2014
107 | GeneJockey Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:19:08pm |
re: #92 Dark_Falcon
Retweeted, because its important. Fat jokes make Christie into the victim and the person telling the “joke” into an ass.
Agreed.
Sad to say, though, that the more that our campaigns revolve around television, the larger part appearance plays in electability. All the Presidents of my lifetime have been fairly tall, slender men. I suspect he loses a percentage point or two nationally on that basis alone.
108 | Kragar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:19:49pm |
re: #99 Pie-onist Overlord
Yeah but Bryan, it’s also OK if both of them are the same sex.
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Care to mention that group is just 50-150 social conservatives with no connection to American Academy Of Pediatrics? @BryanJFischer— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) January 9, 2014
109 | darthstar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:19:59pm |
Hate typos. Fortunately, so few people read my tweets I can delete and repost without getting noticed.
110 | Pie-onist Overlord Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:20:12pm |
“IRS SCANDAL” = IRS gives more scrutiny to organizations requesting 501(c)(3) tax exempt status, like organizations that are like all DOWN WITH TEH GUBAMINT!!!11!!!! and TAXES ARE TEH SLAVERYS!!!!11!!!
112 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:21:57pm |
re: #95 lawhawk
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In the end, death comes for us all. But Florence Genova lived a good life, and she raised her children right. Those are the most important things and in reading that story I have no doubt that the Lord received her unto His mercy.
113 | darthstar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:22:59pm |
Flashback: Christie Fired State Official In 2010 For Allegedly Misleading Him http://t.co/2kUAjphpzE— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) January 9, 2014
114 | ObserverArt Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:23:19pm |
re: #47 sagehen
The semiotic intent is laughable, but as graphic design I rather like it….
You know who else had some dynamite graphic art posters and regalia for a few years in the late 30s into the mid 40s???
(And no I am not kidding…I have a book on the History of War Regalia, and some of the designs are quite striking…but the intent and message is scary.)
115 | BongCrodny Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:23:31pm |
Thank you for calling.
Please be assured that your call will be answered as quickly as possible.
Please continue to hold for just a moment longer. We will be on line shortly to answer your call.
So, I haven’t received an unemployment check for two weeks now. The last communication I received from the Department of Labor indicated that “an issue with your claim has been detected.”
I just spent an hour and fifty-five minutes on hold before getting a DOL representative on the line. Earlier last year it usually took about 15 minutes.
The rep was very apologetic; she even offered that the job market was supposed to be good, but they weren’t really seeing evidence of it. I guess with the news about unemployment benefits being discontinued, they’re getting a lot of calls from scared people.
Unfortunately, there was no other way to resolve or even address the problem. I had to call the 1-800 number to resolve the situation; once I got through to the representative, it only took five minutes for her to figure out the problem and tell me they were sending me the paperwork for a continued school waiver.
I’m not specifically blaming Governor Tea Bag here, but he’s long been a believer that people on unemployment shouldn’t be on unemployment; it wouldn’t surprise me if the MDOL staff has gone through a bit of employee trimming as a result of the Governor’s budget cuts.
But I can tell you up front: being on hold for two hours really sucks.
Thank you for calling.
Please be assured that your call will be answered as quickly as possible.
Please continue to hold for just a moment longer. We will be on line shortly to answer your call.
116 | darthstar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:23:41pm |
Christie’s got a habit of throwing people under the bus when it helps him avoid criticism.
117 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:23:54pm |
118 | wrenchwench Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:24:18pm |
re: #104 Aunty Entity Dragon
Considering how venomous he has been to public school teachers and just about anybody who has asked him a question in public…I don’t give a shit if fat jokes are made at his expense.
He wanted to be an ass…he can be treated like one.
That would be fine if it would hurt Christie only. He doesn’t even see it, but thousands of innocent fat people do.
119 | darthstar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:24:28pm |
120 | Lidane Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:25:39pm |
Stupidity doesn’t stop just because Bridgeghazi is a thing:
Actual Pajamas Media “argument”: Saying capitalism is bad is a lie because America under Obama is a fascist state. http://t.co/1OeH9X47qT— Zandar (@ZandarVTS) January 9, 2014
121 | darthstar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:25:42pm |
Good time to remind everyone that Christie was a lobbyist for Bernie Madoff. True story. #bridgegate— YeaYouRite (@YeaYouRite) January 9, 2014
122 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:27:41pm |
You know, there is a debate going on in House Judiciary committee regarding No Tax Payer funding for Abortion. Which, is more than it seems.
A panel of 12 men on the House Judiciary Committee will hold a hearing on a bill Thursday that would deny tax subsidies to women and small businesses who purchase health insurance plans that include abortion coverage. The bill only makes an exception for rape and incest victims and women who would die without abortion care, which opponents say could prompt the IRS to audit any woman who claims one of these exceptions.
forgive me if I’m not all-up-in-arms about Bridgeghazi.
Chris Christie is off the map for 2016 —
I’m still pissed-off.
123 | leftynyc Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:27:41pm |
re: #85 darthstar
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I don’t think so - it was probably a jab at the teabaggers that hate him so much for not hating Pres Obama enough.
124 | Bulworth Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:27:53pm |
re: #115 BongCrodny
Sorry to hear you had to go through this. Hope you can payments restarted.
125 | ObserverArt Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:27:55pm |
re: #51 Dark_Falcon
It was a lot more than that. And all I’m saying is that Bush’s vindictiveness was in my mind not ‘petty’, YMMV
No, it may not have been. But it may never come to light.
I know one thing…it was always about vindication to me and to many others. The trumped up reasons and the facts after the whole thing went down support vindication more than just about anything else.
126 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:29:06pm |
re: #68 Lidane
The Afghanistan invasion made sense. Iraq will always be Bush’s daddy issues war.
And we utterly failed in Afghanistan because of the waste of time, materials, lives & everything else that was thrown away in that utterly needless war of choice in Iraq. Had we simply done the job we started in Afghanistan, the world would be a better place. Now? Looking at AQ taking over Fallujah because we destroyed Iraq and left nothing worth spit in it’s place?
127 | Gus Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:29:31pm |
Unfollowing anyone who dumps fat jokes in my TL. Just stop it.— Imani ABL (@AngryBlackLady) January 9, 2014
128 | Kragar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:29:34pm |
I’d shut down some traffic lanes for these.
129 | Aunty Entity Dragon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:30:00pm |
re: #118 wrenchwench
That would be fine if it would hurt Christie only. He doesn’t even see it, but thousands of innocent fat people do.
I understand what you are getting at here…and I can stand to loose 70 pounds myself.
Christie’s girth, red faced temper tantrums in public and and propensity to get into the body space of uppity women one third his size who question him are all part of his “Jersey image”. I have no problem using that against him. He is the one who cultivated it!
130 | RealityBasedSteve Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:30:21pm |
re: #117 Dark_Falcon
You mean that in the MASH theme song sense, don’t you?
Sort of like those old movies, set somewhere in India during the days of the British Empire. The Major faces disgrace and ruin due to his actions, the Colonal takes him aside at the club, hands him a revolver, and says “Think of the Regiment my good man”. Last scene, Major sitting in a chair in empty room, fade to closed door, sound of a single shot, cut to credits.
RBS
131 | Lidane Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:30:35pm |
re: #122 FemNaziBitch
A panel of 12 men on the House Judiciary Committee will hold a hearing on a bill Thursday that would deny tax subsidies to women and small businesses who purchase health insurance plans that include abortion coverage.
Shorter GOP:
132 | b.d. Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:31:24pm |
RT @morningmoneyben: Glad Christie can chopper into Ft Lee and not deal w/all the nasty traffic I was just in there. #Bridgeghazi
— Who, Harmony? (@harmonywho) January 9, 2014
133 | Amory Blaine Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:32:11pm |
Bridgeghazi Backlash: Conservatives Livid Over Hashtag For Chris Christie GWB Scandal
The Bridgeghazi ribbon is in the article.
135 | Lidane Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:32:53pm |
Mental health break. Also, a great photo:
JFK and Jacky in a photo booth, c. 1953 pic.twitter.com/EuyKxwa0i4— Historical Pics (@HistoricalPics) January 9, 2014
136 | wrenchwench Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:33:22pm |
re: #122 FemNaziBitch
You know, there is a debate going on in House Judiciary committee regarding No Tax Payer funding for Abortion. Which, is more than it seems.
forgive me if I’m not all-up-in-arms about Bridgeghazi.
Chris Christie is off the map for 2016 —
I’m still pissed-off.
That proposal is an obscene attack on women. There are also women among the 144 co-sponsors.
137 | Pie-onist Overlord Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:33:44pm |
GOHMERT!
“I Became A Congressman To Stop Single Moms From Getting Welfare”
Youtube Video
138 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:34:28pm |
Republicans on the House Appropriations Committee have themselves laid out a number of policy priorities worth fighting for. Here are some policy goals that, according to the House Appropriations Committee, would be a good place to start:
It’s a Heritage site. You many not want to click. I find it horrifying.
139 | Kragar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:35:02pm |
re: #137 Pie-onist Overlord
GOHMERT!
“I Became A Congressman To Stop Single Moms From Getting Welfare”
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Yeah, that is a much better reason than trying to make your country a better place and helping its citizens.
/
140 | leftynyc Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:35:04pm |
If fox wants to discuss the Gates book all day, how about they tackle this:
In one devastating passage of Duty: Memoirs of a Secretary at War, Gates writes that the optional war that Bush chose to launch in 2003—the invasion of Iraq—seriously undermined the conduct of the necessary war in Afghanistan, the conclusion of which still bedevils U.S. foreign policy today:
President Bush always detested the notion, but our later challenges in Afghanistan—especially the return of the Taliban in force by the time I reported for duty—were, I believe, significantly compounded by the invasion of Iraq. Resources and senior-level attention were diverted from Afghanistan. U.S. goals in Afghanistan—a properly sized, competent Afghan national army and police, a working democracy with at least a minimally effective and less corrupt central government—were embarrassingly ambitious and historically naive compared with the meager human and financial resources committed to the task, at least before 2009.
141 | wrenchwench Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:35:06pm |
re: #129 Aunty Entity Dragon
I understand what you are getting at here…and I can stand to loose 70 pounds myself.
Christie’s girth, red faced temper tantrums in public and and propensity to get into the body space of uppity women one third his size who question him are all part of his “Jersey image”. I have no problem using that against him. He is the one who cultivated it!
Complaints about how Christie behaves are different from complaints that he’s fat.
142 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:35:42pm |
re: #136 wrenchwench
That proposal is an obscene attack on women. There are also women among the 144 co-sponsors.
Nice, there is lots of media attention on Christie and his bridge, not on the fact that 12 men are deemed qualified to decide the fate of women.
143 | ObserverArt Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:36:21pm |
re: #52 Political Atheist
“His daddy issues”?
As if a plot to kill a former president is just a mental hang up? I’m not saying we should have invaded. But if some tyrant gets caught trying to kill a former President now, i would expect President Obama to respond strongly. Not an invasion, but better be more than a UN angry letter. Or if the next President finds a plot to assassinate Obama I would expect the same.
But you can’t deny that we did invade…so that takes away the whole argument and makes it inexcusable in my opinion. Think of all the costs in treasury and lives for a vendetta. I understand your point, but there are disqualifiers that put it into a territory that made us look like vindictive assholes to the rest of the world. And it took away our standing as one of the moral authorities in the world, it not THE moral authority. We will pay for that for a long time if not forever.
144 | Lidane Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:39:19pm |
re: #138 FemNaziBitch
It’s a Heritage site. You many not want to click. I find it horrifying.
That is a laundry list of everything wrong with conservatism. If we enacted even half of it we’d be on our way to Third World status.
145 | Aunty Entity Dragon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:39:42pm |
re: #141 wrenchwench
Complaints about how Christie behaves are different from complaints that he’s fat.
It is my observation that he used his size as part of his bully schtick. I do not believe you can separate the size from the behavior in his case.
146 | ObserverArt Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:40:18pm |
re: #56 Political Atheist
Can you imagine a tyrant getting caught in a plot to kill a former President and the guy in the oval office just says “meh, moving on…” ?!
Is that what Clinton did? And yes, that is a serious question for discussion.
147 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:42:04pm |
Using someone’s appearance as an argument for or against them is weak.
Those that do are often heard quoting King’s “Content of one’s character” speech. As you know, some animals are more equal than others.
148 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:42:48pm |
re: #145 Aunty Entity Dragon
It is my observation that he used his size as part of his bully schtick. I do not believe you can separate the size from the behavior in his case.
So, you play his game?
Leave his size out of it. Don’t give him the fodder.
149 | Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:45:39pm |
Chris Christie unveils his new plan for a more sincere apology. @Green_Footballs pic.twitter.com/I3mDFzYucm— zenvoid (@zenvoid) January 9, 2014
150 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:45:49pm |
151 | Aunty Entity Dragon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:46:19pm |
re: #141 wrenchwench
Complaints about how Christie behaves are different from complaints that he’s fat.
Also note that we all know stories about “little guy” tyrants…the boss who is 5 foot 4 and obviously compensating by being an asshole.
I do not see where this should be off limits in talking about Christie. He uses his bulk to intimidate in public appearances with constituents who disagree with him, and up until now it was a valued part of his “Jersey attitude” and swagger. (look again at the laughter you see from others as he is yelling at a female school teacher one third his size).
He brought it to the table. He didn’t have to, but he made that choice.
152 | GeneJockey Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:46:53pm |
re: #143 ObserverArt
But you can’t deny that we did invade…so that takes away the whole argument and makes it inexcusable in my opinion. Think of all the costs in treasury and lives for a vendetta. I understand your point, but there are disqualifiers that put it into a territory that made us look like vindictive assholes to the rest of the world. And it took away our standing as one of the moral authorities in the world, it not THE moral authority. We will pay for that for a long time if not forever.
I disagree with the characterization of it as a vendetta for going after GWB’s Dad. The reasoning was a lot more complex, though DEEPLY, DEEPLY flawed. Yeah, Saddam’s going after GHWB no doubt played a part, but more as part of a larger picture of his overall intransigence and thumbing his nose at the rest of the world. Add in the naive belief that all you had to do was topple a dictator and a Western-style, America-friendly democracy would flourish and you have a recipe for disastrous self-delusion. Arguments were made that Iraq was uniquely disposed to Westernization, because it was a SECULAR society, well educated, etc., and unlikely to fall into sectarian conflict. AND Afghanistan was too primitive and too far from the Middle East to serve as a good example.
Seriously. That’s what they were thinking.
153 | SteveMcGazi Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:47:12pm |
re: #149 Charles Johnson
At least he’s only closing one lane.
154 | wrenchwench Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:47:56pm |
re: #151 Aunty Entity Dragon
Also note that we all know stories about “little guy” tyrants…the boss who is 5 foot 4 and obviously compensating by being an asshole.
I do not see where this should be off limits in talking about Christie. He uses his bulk to intimidate in public appearances with constituents who disagree with him, and up until now it was a valued part of his “Jersey attitude” and swagger. (look again at the laughter you see from others as he is yelling at a female school teacher one third his size).
He brought it to the table. He didn’t have to, but he made that choice.
Behavior is one thing, size is another. If he’s using his size, it’s fair game. If not, it’s not.
155 | The Ghost of a Flea Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:52:35pm |
re: #152 GeneJockey
…and that little part about “privatizing” Iraq’s oil resources.
156 | Aunty Entity Dragon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:52:50pm |
re: #154 wrenchwench
Behavior is one thing, size is another. If he’s using his size, it’s fair game. If not, it’s not.
That is exactly what I am contending. He uses his size to intimidate and threaten in public.
The video of that specific encounter was posted by Christie’s office and they have taken it down. All that is left are some photos of him menacing the teacher in question, who says she was shaking when he turned away after screaming at her.
157 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:52:59pm |
In 1913 it was legal to mail children. With stamps attached to their clothing, children rode trains to their destinations, accompanied by letter carriers. One newspaper reported it cost fifty-three cents for parents to mail their daughter to her grandparents for a family visit. As news stories and photos popped up around the country, it didn’t take long to get a law on the books making it illegal to send children through the mail. With thanks to Thomas Doty.
from my fb
158 | Just never mind. Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:56:41pm |
re: #122 FemNaziBitch
{{{HUGS}}}
You’re WAY NOT the only one pissed off here.
Or working to change it!
159 | abolitionist Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:56:51pm |
re: #156 Aunty Entity Dragon
ComodoDNS is giving me a warning for your link:
This website has been blocked temporarily because of the following reason(s):
Malware
This site contains links to viruses or other software programs that can reveal personal information stored or typed on your computer to malicious persons.
160 | GeneJockey Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:57:11pm |
re: #155 The Ghost of a Flea
…and that little part about “privatizing” Iraq’s oil resources.
“It’ll pay for itself!”
161 | Kragar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:58:27pm |
You might want to try reading more than one book once in a while. “Devil Worshipers” have had the right to vote for a while @ladythombsdj— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) January 9, 2014
162 | allegro Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:58:32pm |
re: #156 Aunty Entity Dragon
That is exactly what I am contending. He uses his size to intimidate and threaten in public.
The video of that specific encounter was posted by Christie’s office and they have taken it down. All that is left are some photos of him menacing the teacher in question, who says she was shaking when he turned away after screaming at her.
What got my attention from that picture wasn’t as much Christie being his asshole self (not surprising at all) - it was his wife standing there grinning and laughing at his unconscionable bullying. Creepy as hell.
163 | b.d. Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:58:42pm |
I want a Bridgeghazi Pale ALe
#Bridgeghazi BPA on it's way! Just in time for #SuperBowl Weekend!
— 902 Brewing (@902Brewing) January 9, 2014
164 | Kragar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 12:59:07pm |
re: #160 GeneJockey
“It’ll pay for itself!”
“We’ll have cheap oil for decades, they’ll be so happy about us invading them!”
165 | GeneJockey Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:00:50pm |
re: #164 Kragar
“We’ll have cheap oil for decades, they’ll be so happy about us invading them!”
After “We’ll be greeted as liberators” and “What we’re seeing are the final death throes of the insurgency”, I cannot understand why ANYONE, ANYWHERE would ask Dick Cheney’s opinion on ANYTHING.
166 | Kragar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:01:54pm |
re: #165 GeneJockey
After “We’ll be greeted as liberators” and “What we’re seeing are the final death throes of the insurgency”, I cannot understand why ANYONE, ANYWHERE would ask Dick Cheney’s opinion on ANYTHING.
“What is a good type of shot to use when you want it to look like an accident?”
167 | GeneJockey Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:02:09pm |
re: #161 Kragar
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I observed the other day that one way to really piss off a Christianist would be to say that they and Satanists believe the same thing. The Satanists just root for the other team.
168 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:02:09pm |
“She shouldn’t have done that,” said Sukhdev Bawa, the owner of Maharaja Quality Sweets and Snacks, but added: “She’s a diplomat — she’s not a regular person. What the police did to her — totally wrong.”
169 | GeneJockey Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:02:44pm |
re: #166 Kragar
“What is a good type of shot to use when you want it to look like an accident?”
“Sorry my face got in the way of you taking down that dove!”
170 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:03:10pm |
re: #158 Just never mind.
{{{HUGS}}}
You’re WAY NOT the only one pissed off here.
Or working to change it!
*smooches*
171 | ObserverArt Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:03:36pm |
re: #107 GeneJockey
Agreed.
Sad to say, though, that the more that our campaigns revolve around television, the larger part appearance plays in electability. All the Presidents of my lifetime have been fairly tall, slender men. I suspect he loses a percentage point or two nationally on that basis alone.
Well, there was a time when weight was seen as a stature over those that couldn’t afford to consume enough. And skinny has had its own negatives. In today’s world they have changed due to correctness and medical related findings.
I am not sure, but the phrase “throw your weight around” may have come from the power and influence that was seen by weighty persons from another time. The phrase still exists, but the root is not discussed most likely due to again correctness and medical reason.
Some people still see weight as an intimidator.
172 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:04:50pm |
House GOP extended UI benefits under Pres. George W. Bush 5 times. See what he had to say on why we must #RenewUI: pic.twitter.com/K4pWuKjbeD— Nancy Pelosi (@NancyPelosi) January 6, 2014
173 | Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:05:31pm |
Outrage!
Obama makes pitch for ‘Promise Zones’ to boost depressed areas
Obama’s Promise Zones proposal bears some similarity to Paul’s Economic Freedom Zones Act which the Kentucky Republican introduced in the Senate last month.
Paul’s bill would create tax breaks for residents and businesses in areas that have 1.5 times the national unemployment rate, or where at least 30 percent of the residents have incomes below the national poverty level.
Paul’s bill would cut the income tax rate to 5 percent for individuals, families, and small businesses, would trim the payroll tax rate, and would suspend the capital gains tax.
Paul’s proposal is similar to one made 25 years by then Rep. Jack Kemp, R- N.Y., who later became Housing secretary under President George H.W. Bush.
174 | Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:06:20pm |
re: #173 Killgore Trout
Outrage!
Obama makes pitch for ‘Promise Zones’ to boost depressed areas
Outrage or MBF? I can’t decide, maybe just “Derp”.
175 | Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:07:45pm |
Seriously though, It sounds like a good idea. It’s nice to see people in Washington working together towards actually solving a problem.
176 | Patricia Kayden Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:09:30pm |
re: #85 darthstar
When did President Obama shut down the government?
177 | Stanley Sea Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:10:07pm |
re: #162 allegro
What got my attention from that picture wasn’t as much Christie being his asshole self (not surprising at all) - it was his wife standing there grinning and laughing at his unconscionable bullying. Creepy as hell.
Ditto.
178 | Tigger2 Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:10:13pm |
re: #176 Patricia Kayden
When did President Obama shut down the government?
He never did. That’s a wingnut fantasy.
179 | GeneJockey Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:10:26pm |
re: #167 GeneJockey
I observed the other day that one way to really piss off a Christianist would be to say that they and Satanists believe the same thing. The Satanists just root for the other team.
Then you can REALLY piss them off by saying that Christianity just had better PR.
180 | Patricia Kayden Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:10:48pm |
re: #94 Pie-onist Overlord
Probably because the IRS thingy was not a scandal.
181 | Kragar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:10:59pm |
re: #176 Patricia Kayden
When did President Obama shut down the government?
When the GOP said he did, right around the time Ted Cruz and the GOP shutdown the government.
182 | Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:11:20pm |
183 | Weet Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:13:56pm |
It’s the 9/11 anniversary. It’s the first day of school.
My constituents are complaining about the GWB traffic snarl. I don’t call one of the 3 guys I appointed to the PA and ask about it? I don’t have my staff do this?
What kind of Governor ignores this?
Today: GOV. CHRISTIE: (Chuckles.) Listen. You think I’m suggesting any traffic studies anytime soon? (Laughter.) Got to be getting me. I don’t want a traffic study in front of my house, Marsha (sp). (Laughter.) I think I’m out of the traffic study business for certain, never really in it and definitely don’t want to be in it.
184 | ObserverArt Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:14:53pm |
re: #152 GeneJockey
I disagree with the characterization of it as a vendetta for going after GWB’s Dad. The reasoning was a lot more complex, though DEEPLY, DEEPLY flawed. Yeah, Saddam’s going after GHWB no doubt played a part, but more as part of a larger picture of his overall intransigence and thumbing his nose at the rest of the world. Add in the naive belief that all you had to do was topple a dictator and a Western-style, America-friendly democracy would flourish and you have a recipe for disastrous self-delusion. Arguments were made that Iraq was uniquely disposed to Westernization, because it was a SECULAR society, well educated, etc., and unlikely to fall into sectarian conflict. AND Afghanistan was too primitive and too far from the Middle East to serve as a good example.
Seriously. That’s what they were thinking.
You are certainly allowed that opinion. We may never know. I think I did say it is open for debate because there are so many unanswered questions. And, there are many people that do think it was nothing more than vindication surrounded by the ‘facts’ you list. One thing that has always trouble me is why even after Saddam was captured we seemed to drop the ball on going after the real culprit…Bin Laden? It sort of made it look like the real job was done…mission accomplished! And the simple fact that it was the son that followed the father. Sometimes things are simply explained even with all the reasons that point to other thinking.
I know one thing. If it was vindication, I feel for some souls and how they will ever rest in peace. I couldn’t imagine the burden.
185 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:15:06pm |
re: #174 Killgore Trout
Outrage or MBF? I can’t decide, maybe just “Derp”.
We need to wait and see. There’s a good chance that Luap Dnar will react by blacktracking.
186 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:15:22pm |
I can’t believe the Police Department wrote this:
There’s a special place in hell for this guy… Around 2:35 yesterday afternoon a man knocked on the front door of… http://t.co/fOHe0DSOs6— Aurora (IL) Police (@AuroraPoliceIL) January 9, 2014
187 | Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:17:40pm |
re: #186 FemNaziBitch
It’s not uber professional but I’m not offended by it.
188 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:17:47pm |
re: #182 Decatur Deb
From The Hill:
Intel panel: DOD report finds Snowden leaks helped terrorists
The Criminals in the so-called Defense Department have trumped that up to justify killing the heroic whistleblower Edward Snowden with a Drone Strike!!!11
189 | geoffm33 Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:18:24pm |
re: #176 Patricia Kayden
When did President Obama shut down the government?
He may have been referring to Ted Cruz //
190 | RealityBasedSteve Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:18:48pm |
re: #182 Decatur Deb
From The Hill:
Intel panel: DOD report finds Snowden leaks helped terrorists
IF this is shown to be true, (and I have no reason to doubt it), then all the dudebros are in a really weak position, at best. It also makes it a heck of alot harder to make any arguments for any clemency or immunity.
RBS
191 | BusyMonster Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:18:52pm |
re: #94 Pie-onist Overlord
HURR HURR TEH IRS IS WORSER THEN TEH SLAVERYS!!!!!1!!!1!!!
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LOL. It could be that the Christie scandal is an actual, real scandal.
No, wingnuts would never for a moment consider that their fake, bullshit, cardboard-cutout movement didn’t pass the smell test to most Americans, would they?
192 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:18:58pm |
re: #187 Eclectic Cyborg
It’s not uber professional but I’m not offended by it.
Few would be. Cops should be pissed at assholes like that.
193 | Kragar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:19:16pm |
re: #185 Dark_Falcon
We need to wait and see. There’s a good chance that Luap Dnar will react by blacktracking.
Romney is going to call up Paul, “He did the same shit to me.”
194 | Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:19:28pm |
195 | Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:19:59pm |
re: #185 Dark_Falcon
We need to wait and see. There’s a good chance that Luap Dnar will react by blacktracking.
I doubt it since he showed up to the whitehouse press conference for the photo op. I think they’ll take a little from one plan, a little from the other and put something together. Of course the partisan wingnuts will oppose the idea once Obama embraces it and the partisan moonbats will now like the same plan they mocked when Rand Paul suggested it. But in the end something will get done, I’m happy to see it.
196 | dog philosopher Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:22:10pm |
197 | RealityBasedSteve Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:23:07pm |
re: #195 Killgore Trout
I doubt it since he showed up to the whitehouse press conference for the photo op. I think they’ll take a little from one plan, a little from the other and put something together. Of course the partisan wingnuts will oppose the idea once Obama embraces it and the partisan moonbats will now like the same plan they mocked when Rand Paul suggested it. But in the end something will get done, I’m happy to see it.
ZMOG!!! You mean that there might even be a bi-partisan proposal to actually do good for the people in the country? That there can be a proposal where perhaps each side gives a little bit, and is really trying to improve things? /snark
In other words, there might actually be some practical governing and politics going on.
RBS
198 | Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:24:15pm |
re: #197 RealityBasedSteve
ZMOG!!! You mean that there might even be a bi-partisan proposal to actually do good for the people in the country? That there can be a proposal where perhaps each side gives a little bit, and is really trying to improve things? /snark
In other words, there might actually be some practical governing and politics going on.
RBS
We must stop this madness immediately! It could spread! Mass contagion!
199 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:24:24pm |
re: #195 Killgore Trout
I doubt it since he showed up to the whitehouse press conference for the photo op. I think they’ll take a little from one plan, a little from the other and put something together. Of course the partisan wingnuts will oppose the idea once Obama embraces it and the partisan moonbats will now like the same plan they mocked when Rand Paul suggested it. But in the end something will get done, I’m happy to see it.
If Rand Paul actually proves willing to negotiate and get a bill passed then I will raise my opinion of him slightly. He will have proved himself to value results to at least a small degree. Though he might suffer wingnut blowback for doing so.
200 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:25:01pm |
re: #197 RealityBasedSteve
ZMOG!!! You mean that there might even be a bi-partisan proposal to actually do good for the people in the country? That there can be a proposal where perhaps each side gives a little bit, and is really trying to improve things? /snark
In other words, there might actually be some practical governing and politics going on.
RBS
Stranger things HAVE happened.
201 | Kragar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:25:07pm |
Be fair. Have you ever tried driving around New Jersey? @LuthorCEO— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) January 9, 2014
203 | kirkspencer Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:26:21pm |
re: #175 Killgore Trout
Seriously though, It sounds like a good idea. It’s nice to see people in Washington working together towards actually solving a problem.
No, if it’s basically Rand Paul’s plan then it does not sound like a good idea.
It is, again, the “if we just cut taxes the economy will recover” plan.
If people aren’t working, they’re paying very low taxes anyway. If companies aren’t hiring because nobody’s buying, nobody’s going to start buying because the overhead goes down a bit.
The Laffer curve is legit, it’s just the inflection point is a lot higher than it is now. In fact an honest valuation of the laffer curve says that we should be increasing taxes. We’d increase government revenues while having no impact on private production. So says the curve.
205 | Justanotherhuman Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:29:01pm |
re: #190 RealityBasedSteve
IF this is shown to be true, (and I have no reason to doubt it), then all the dudebros are in a really weak position, at best. It also makes it a heck of alot harder to make any arguments for any clemency or immunity.
RBS
Oh, don’t worry. GG has Trevor Timm on it, who calls the report “fact free”.
US Govt warns: leaks help Terrorists, endanger national security! - for every leak over the last 40 years http://t.co/TCHbXh7VI3— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) January 9, 2014
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206 | lawhawk Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:30:12pm |
re: #149 Charles Johnson
.@zenvoid .@Green_Footballs But he's still blocking a lane! /— lawhawk (@lawhawk) January 9, 2014
207 | Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:30:15pm |
re: #205 Justanotherhuman
Imagine that. The government has been consistent for 40 years that leaking national security secrets is dangerous.
208 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:30:32pm |
Also, it looks like the Florida legislature will pass legislation that will amend state laws on aggravated assault and self-defense so that the warning shot Merissa Alexander was given 20 years in prison for firing will no longer be considered a crime in self-defense circumstances.
A important thing to note is that the legislation is expected to contain a section voiding the conviction of people previously convicted whose actions will have been legalized. If signed into law, this would have the effect of voiding the main charge against Merissa Alexander.
209 | Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:31:14pm |
re: #199 Dark_Falcon
Though he might suffer wingnut blowback for doing so.
Meh. The noise machine makes noise but that’s about it.
“The dogs may bark but the caravan moves on”
210 | darthstar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:32:07pm |
Wow >> NJ Assembly committee just held Chris Christie's pal David Wildstein in contempt for refusing to testify today http://t.co/aplshF1gOb— The Fighting Liberal (@texyellowdogdem) January 9, 2014
211 | Dr. Matt Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:32:15pm |
re: #208 Dark_Falcon
Also, it looks like the Florida legislature will pass legislation that will amend state laws on aggravated assault and self-defense so that the warning shot Melissa Alexander was given 20 years in prison for firing will no longer be considered a crime in self-defense circumstances.
Prediction: Florida becomes the capital of warning shots.
No sarcasm intended….at all.
212 | Rev_Arthur_Belling Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:32:16pm |
I think a photoshop movie poster is in order:
Chris Christie in Incurious Bastards
213 | Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:32:40pm |
Imagine that. The government has been consistent for 40 years that leaking national security secrets is dangerous. http://t.co/XJiSSaenEr— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 9, 2014
214 | Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:33:56pm |
re: #210 darthstar
Does that mean he can be formally arrested?
215 | Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:34:30pm |
re: #211 Dr. Matt
Prediction: Florida becomes the capital of warning shots.
No sarcasm intended….at all.
Breaking: George Zimmerman announces plans to move back to Florida.
216 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:35:03pm |
re: #208 Dark_Falcon
Also, it looks like the Florida legislature will pass legislation that will amend state laws on aggravated assault and self-defense so that the warning shot Melissa Alexander was given 20 years in prison for firing will no longer be considered a crime in self-defense circumstances.
A important thing to note is that the legislation is expected to contain a section voiding the conviction of people previously convicted whose actions will have been legalized. If signed into law, this would have the effect of voiding the main charge against Melissa Alexander.
Thanks for keeping on on this.
217 | Backwoods_Sleuth Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:35:08pm |
re: #186 FemNaziBitch
I can’t believe the Police Department wrote this:
[Embedded content]
One of my work at home jobs is for a chain of weekly newspapers, in a couple of counties adjacent to where Aurora is located. Among other things, I write up weekly police reports.
I’m not surprised at all at what the Aurora PD wrote because it is a HUGE problem. Not a week goes by where there’s not at least one report of an elderly resident being preyed upon by someone claiming to be a city water/utility worker or (even more common) claiming to be someone who has just purchased a neighboring property and wants to check the location of the property/fence lines. While this is all going on, an accomplice ransacks the house.
Fortunately, more and more of the elderly know about this precisely as a result of local PD and sheriff’s offices educating residents about this, much like Aurora PD is doing.
I have no problem with Aurora PD’s wording.
218 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:36:40pm |
re: #208 Dark_Falcon
Also, it looks like the Florida legislature will pass legislation that will amend state laws on aggravated assault and self-defense so that the warning shot
MelissaMarissa Alexander was given 20 years in prison for firing will no longer be considered a crime in self-defense circumstances.A important thing to note is that the legislation is expected to contain a section voiding the conviction of people previously convicted whose actions will have been legalized. If signed into law, this would have the effect of voiding the main charge against
MelissaMarissa Alexander.
FTFY
219 | lawhawk Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:36:48pm |
re: #207 Charles Johnson
Imagine that. The government has been consistent for 40 years that leaking national security secrets is dangerous.
Longer than that!
WWII poster - US has always cautioned use sensitive info
220 | Kragar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:37:17pm |
Garrow: Obama Nuked Dolphins! | Right Wing Watch http://t.co/l9uWBmXqso via @rightwingwatch— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) January 9, 2014
Except they’re dying from a disease caused by the BP spill and not radiation.
222 | kirkspencer Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:38:01pm |
re: #203 kirkspencer
So I went looking. Here’s the fact sheet on the President’s proposal.
Yes it has tax breaks. But unlike Paul’s proposal it also has some grants and other assistance.
In some ways it sort of looks like a small Peace Corps operation with tax benefits added. Direct assistance, funding assistance, professional leadership, team builders assistance, educational assistance (direct and indirect), and oh by the way tax breaks for businesses.
223 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:38:08pm |
224 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:38:17pm |
re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth
One of of my work at home jobs is for a chain of weekly newspapers, in a couple of counties adjacent to where Aurora is located. Among other things, I write up weekly police reports.
I’m not surprised at all at what the Aurora PD wrote because it is a HUGE problem. Not a week goes by where there’s not at least one report of an elderly resident being preyed upon by someone claiming to be a city water/utility worker or (even more common) claiming to be someone who has just purchased a neighboring property and wants to check the location of the property/fence lines. While this is all going on, an accomplice ransacks the house.
Fortunately, more and more of the elderly know about this precisely as a result of local PD and sheriff’s offices educating residents about this, much like Aurora PD is doing.
I have no problem with Aurora PD’s wording.
I understand the sentiment, but I don’t think the wording is appropriate for a government entity. Separation of Church and State and all that —and use of offending (to some) words.
225 | Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:41:27pm |
226 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:43:57pm |
GOP Congressman Peddles DOMA 2.0: ‘State Marriage Defense Act’ -
Rep. Randy Weber (R-TX) has introduced the “State Marriage Defense Act,” which would prohibit the federal government from recognizing the marriages of same-sex couples who live in states that don’t acknowledge their union (for instance, a couple who gets married in Iowa and then moves to Alabama). The bill would undermine an Obama administration ruling that recognizes all legally married couples for federal tax purposes.
The Tax Man Commeth for abortion and same-sex marriage.
227 | lawhawk Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:45:18pm |
Writer And Activist Amiri Baraka Dies At Age 79 http://t.co/Mq8uWy402q— NPR News (@nprnews) January 9, 2014
Amiri Baraka has a NJ connection (in this all NJ news all the time forum) - he was briefly the state’s poet laureate who caused controversy with a 9/11 themed poem, before the position was abolished.
229 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:50:06pm |
re: #227 lawhawk
[Embedded content]
Amiri Baraka has a NJ connection (in this all NJ news all the time forum) - he was briefly the state’s poet laureate who caused controversy with a 9/11 themed poem, before the position was abolished.
The post was abolished specifically to get him out of it.
As a side note, Charles satirized Baraka’s hateful poem Somebody Blew Up America with the LGF Rotating Title “Who blew up da owl?”.
230 | Backwoods_Sleuth Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:53:09pm |
re: #224 FemNaziBitch
I understand the sentiment, but I don’t think the wording is appropriate for a government entity. Separation of Church and State and all that —and use of offending (to some) words.
My feeling is that “special place in hell” went mainstream a very long time ago as an expression/idiom with no real religious connotations.
But that’s probably just me.
232 | RealityBasedSteve Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:55:52pm |
re: #200 Dark_Falcon
Stranger things HAVE happened.
Well, it was good while it lasted. Ted Cruz is being his usual D-bag self…
“It’s altogether fitting that President Obama is today talking about income inequality because income inequality has increased dramatically as a direct result of his economic policies. Out-of-control government spending, debt, taxes, and regulations have killed millions of jobs. Unfortunately, rather than stop Washington’s job-killing policies, President Obama proposes yet more government spending and debt. People need jobs. All of America needs to be a real ‘Promise Zone’—with reduced barriers to small businesses creating private-sector jobs—and we should start by repealing every word of Obamacare, building the Keystone pipeline, abolishing the IRS, and rolling back abusive regulations.”
234 | dog philosopher Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:57:58pm |
re: #232 RealityBasedSteve
and we should start by repealing every word of Obamacare
i propose starting by repealing the word “not”
235 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:58:51pm |
re: #232 RealityBasedSteve
Well, it was good while it lasted. Ted Cruz is being his usual D-bag self…
The bill doesn’t need Ted Cruz’s approval. In fact, his DERPing at it is a sign that the idea is a decent one.
236 | Bulworth Thu, Jan 9, 2014 1:59:22pm |
237 | Eventual Carrion Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:00:57pm |
re: #234 dog philosopher
i propose starting by repealing the word “not”
And remove the letter “Q” from the alphabet!
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238 | erik_t Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:01:46pm |
re: #232 RealityBasedSteve
President Obama proposes yet more government spending and debt…. and we should start by… abolishing the IRS
Fight debt by eliminating revenue. Seems legit.
239 | RealityBasedSteve Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:03:23pm |
re: #238 erik_t
Fight debt by eliminating revenue. Seems legit.
I think the plan is that we’ll make it up in volume.
RBS
240 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:06:04pm |
Inscriptions Everywhere! Magical Medieval Crypt Holds 7 Male Mummies
One of the mummies in the crypt (scientists aren’t certain which one) is believed to be that of Archbishop Georgios, probably the most powerful religious leader in the kingdom. His epitaph was found nearby and says that he died in A.D. 1113 at the age of 82
241 | Justanotherhuman Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:06:34pm |
I don’t know why people think Christie gave a good presser.
I was bored shitless after 5 min because everything he said was just redundancy after redundancy and he just sounded clueless.
Yet Christie droned on for 1-1/2 hrs.
242 | Kragar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:07:03pm |
If it's a legitimate traffic study, the female body finds a way to shut the whole thing down— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) January 9, 2014
243 | The Ghost of a Flea Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:07:05pm |
re: #235 Dark_Falcon
The bill doesn’t need Ted Cruz’s approval. In fact, his DERPing at it is a sign that the idea is a decent one.
More notable would be that Rand Paul’s initial comments on Obama’s proposal are neither an endorsement nor a promise of cooperation. Indeed, he specifically said that “more radical” policy was needed.
244 | erik_t Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:07:21pm |
re: #241 Justanotherhuman
I don’t know why people think Christie gave a good presser.
I was bored shitless after 5 min because everything he said was just redundancy after redundancy and he just sounded clueless.
Yet Christie droned on for 1-1/2 hrs.
Expectation management is the name of the game at this point.
245 | b_sharp Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:07:35pm |
re: #239 RealityBasedSteve
I think the plan is that we’ll make it up in volume.
RBS
Hells yeah, turn it up to 11
246 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:09:40pm |
re: #243 The Ghost of a Flea
More notable would be that Rand Paul’s initial comments on Obama’s proposal are neither an endorsement nor a promise of cooperation. Indeed, he specifically said that “more radical” policy was needed.
247 | Stanley Sea Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:09:49pm |
248 | Dr. Matt Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:09:59pm |
The fact that Ted Cruz wants to abolish the IRS is proof that he has zero business being a politician.
249 | erik_t Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:10:34pm |
Ruh roh.
Governors Spoke Privately About Bridge Controversy [12 Dec 2013]
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie called New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo this week to complain about a Cuomo appointee’s handling of a growing controversy over traffic pattern changes on the George Washington Bridge, a person familiar with the matter said.
Mr. Christie, a Republican, complained in a private phone call to Mr. Cuomo, a Democrat, that Patrick Foye, the executive director of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, was pressing too hard to get to the bottom of why the number of toll lanes onto the bridge from Fort Lee, N.J. was cut from three to one in early September, according to this person. The lane closures occurred without notice to local authorities, officials have said, and snarled traffic for a week in the small borough on the Hudson River bluffs.
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250 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:11:30pm |
“The image is not just of poverty, the image is of moral depravity,” Jeremi Suri of The University of Texas at Austin noted. “The presumption in Reagan’s rhetoric, and it’s not too below the surface, is that these mothers are single mothers because they’ve done something wrong, so they’re an easy target. It’s easy to make the argument that this woman who [had apparently been] immoral in the way she behaves…and we as a government should not encourage that kind of immoral behavior.”
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251 | Justanotherhuman Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:13:30pm |
All righty.
NJ Lawmaker Wants To Hear From Fired Christie Aide Bridget Kelly Next
More 5th Amendment “testimony”?
252 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:13:50pm |
The GOP-backed measure was based on the principle that “Having children out of wedlock is wrong — not simply economically unwise for the individuals involved or a financial burden on society, but morally wrong.” Even Clinton’s Department of Health and Human Services Secretary, Donna E. Shalala, fully embraced the argument in a comment that stigmatized single mothers, telling Newsweek, “I don’t like to put this in moral terms, but I do believe that having children out of wedlock is just wrong,” In fact, the original bill “appropriated $250 million over five years for ‘chastity training’ for poor single mothers.”
No money for sluts!!!
253 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:16:48pm |
re: #249 erik_t
Ruh roh.
Governors Spoke Privately About Bridge Controversy [12 Dec 2013]
It’s an anonymously sourced article, so its credibility is suspect. Frankly, I can’t see why Gov. Christie would make a phone call like that to a dyed-blue-in-the-wool Democrat like Andrew Cuomo.
254 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:18:26pm |
1938 Disney letter crushing an aspiring female animator's dreams. Source: http://t.co/hq9k9NWSUa ht @AlyssaRosenberg pic.twitter.com/NQw3xb0yxW— Saladin Ahmed (@saladinahmed) January 9, 2014
255 | dog philosopher Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:18:34pm |
1st wingnut: “Christie’s highway robbery was more akin to Obama closing the unattended national monuments to maximize the pain than it was to the clearly illegal activities of the IRS.”
2nd wingnut: “Exactly. How come nothing ever happened after government officials testified that they were told to deliberately make the shut down as painful as possible on the American people?
No one lost their job, no one was held accountable.
My bet is that the Dems drop this one as soon as possible to avoid such comparisons.”
is this true? did “government officials testif[y] that they were told to deliberately make the shut down as painful as possible on the American people”??
256 | erik_t Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:19:18pm |
re: #253 Dark_Falcon
It’s an anonymously sourced article, so its credibility is suspect. Frankly, I can’t see why Gov. Christie would make a phone like that to a dyed-blue-in-the-wool Democrat like Andrew Cuomo.
It was published almost a month ago. A Christie spokesman was quoted in the article. Did the spokesman never tell Christie what was said on his behalf?
257 | Just never mind. Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:19:38pm |
re: #254 FemNaziBitch
Snow White would have totally bitch slapped him!
258 | darthstar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:21:56pm |
The Chris Christie Bridge Scandal, As Explained By “Game Of Thrones” http://t.co/gGi4RSv1U4 via @gavonl— Ben Smith (@BuzzFeedBen) January 9, 2014
259 | darthstar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:24:11pm |
this is the tie buzzfeed is using to say rob ford is “a #redskins fan” #crappyjournalismevenfortrivialthings pic.twitter.com/vYQikcRoWx— Oliver Willis (@owillis) January 9, 2014
260 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:24:45pm |
261 | Justanotherhuman Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:24:50pm |
re: #252 FemNaziBitch
No money for sluts!!!
That’s the same era that treated divorced women like sluts, too.
But not the men because you know, it was always the women’s fault—they were supposed to stay in the marriage and take anything the man dished out.
I went through it, and the tales I could tell.
262 | kirkspencer Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:28:24pm |
re: #255 dog philosopher
1st wingnut: “Christie’s highway robbery was more akin to Obama closing the unattended national monuments to maximize the pain than it was to the clearly illegal activities of the IRS.”
2nd wingnut: “Exactly. How come nothing ever happened after government officials testified that they were told to deliberately make the shut down as painful as possible on the American people?
No one lost their job, no one was held accountable.My bet is that the Dems drop this one as soon as possible to avoid such comparisons.”
is this true? did “government officials testif[y] that they were told to deliberately make the shut down as painful as possible on the American people”??
No, it’s false. It’s an anti-Obama screed of faith, but the claim turned out to be made from whole cloth on the part of a Republican congressman.
263 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:29:52pm |
re: #260 FemNaziBitch
The Poverty Line Was Designed Assuming Every Family Had a Housewife Who Was a ‘Skillful Cook’
Even without reading the article, I can believe that. I can cook (being the stay-at-home parent) for far less money than it would cost to eat already prepared foods all the time. So if the poverty line is drawn with the presumption there was a cook in the family, the amount of money needed to feed the family at a healthy level is quite significantly less.
264 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:34:46pm |
re: #263 William Barnett-Lewis
Even without reading the article, I can believe that. I can cook (being the stay-at-home parent) for far less money than it would cost to eat already prepared foods all the time. So if the poverty line is drawn with the presumption there was a cook in the family, the amount of money needed to feed the family at a healthy level is quite significantly less.
The article is worth reading. It highlights how our statistics are often bullshit.
265 | psddluva4evah Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:36:19pm |
Graham: Bridge Scandal ‘Reinforces A Narrative’ That Christie Is A ‘Bully’
Graham said that even if Christie wasn’t directly involved in the lane closures, the way he governs influenced his staff.
“If anybody in my office had done such a thing, they knew what their fate would be cause I’m not that kind a guy,” he said. “I just don’t see how people that close to him could have felt comfortable enough to do this if they thought their boss wasn’t of this mindset. Isn’t that just common sense?”
266 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:36:52pm |
re: #263 William Barnett-Lewis
Even without reading the article, I can believe that. I can cook (being the stay-at-home parent) for far less money than it would cost to eat already prepared foods all the time. So if the poverty line is drawn with the presumption there was a cook in the family, the amount of money needed to feed the family at a healthy level is quite significantly less.
from the article:
Keep that history in mind while reading this passage, which I found in a 1992 report by the Social Security Administration on how the poverty threshold came to be:
When the hypothetical family cut back its food expenditures to the point where they equaled the cost of the economy food plan (or the low cost food plan) for a family of that size, the family would have reached the point at which its food expenditures were minimal but adequate, assuming that “the housewife will be a careful shopper, a skillful cook, and a good manager who will prepare all the family’s meals at home.” (bold added)
267 | makeitstop Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:36:54pm |
re: #251 Justanotherhuman
All righty.
NJ Lawmaker Wants To Hear From Fired Christie Aide Bridget Kelly Next
More 5th Amendment “testimony”?
[magic 8 ball]Signs point to yes[/magic 8 ball]
268 | erik_t Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:38:44pm |
re: #265 psddluva4evah
Graham: Bridge Scandal ‘Reinforces A Narrative’ That Christie Is A ‘Bully’
Convene the circular firing squad!
I love this part.
270 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:41:35pm |
Christie Urges Media to Focus on Weight ~ @BorowitzReport http://t.co/3Gck6u15fi— RayBeckerman (@RayBeckerman) January 9, 2014
271 | dog philosopher Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:41:36pm |
the housewife will be a careful shopper, a skillful cook, and a good manager
corresponds to the GOP’s tendency to base policies and principles on platonic ideals rather than reality
Looking For Mr Goodbar Invisible Hand
272 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:42:05pm |
re: #271 dog philosopher
the housewife will be a careful shopper, a skillful cook, and a good manager
corresponds to the GOP’s tendency to base policies and principles on platonic ideals rather than reality
Looking For Mr
GoodbarInvisible Hand
Today, such a housewife is a sign of affluence —not cellphones or refridgerators.
273 | palomino Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:46:16pm |
re: #35 Dark_Falcon
In this case its a matter of fairness, since George W. Bush has never been a man to indulge in petty vindictiveness.
And no, Iraq is included in that. Involving the nation aside, Saddam Hussein >did try to kill George Bush the Elder. Unlike refusing an endorsement, that is grounds for a vendetta in my book.
Your Nixon-loving side is emerging again. So you admire political leaders who hold vendettas?
And the reason the GOP doesn’t talk about W isn’t because he’s above the Christie level of petty vindictiveness, though that may be true. It’s because he became very unpopular with the public in his second term, and is primarily associated with two unsuccessful wars and the worst economic crisis since the Depression. Let it go. Bush was your party’s Jimmy Carter, except Bush left even more of a mess when his term ended.
274 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:46:24pm |
Tweets of hearing on HB 7 —House Judiciary Committee comprised of men.
275 | psddluva4evah Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:46:27pm |
Fort Lee Mayor accepts Christie's apology: “I'm glad he came.” http://t.co/Ss5BPvy9zD— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) January 9, 2014
Even though Sokolich said that he did not want Christie to come to Fort Lee for an apology, Christie insisted and Sokolich said he was glad the governor stopped by.
“I’m glad he came,” Sokolich said after meeting with the governor. “I indicated maybe it wouldn’t be productive to come up now. It wasn’t to be disrespectful. It was just, would it make more sense to do it when the investigation is completed? The governor insisted, and we would certainly welcome our governor with open arms, as we did.”..
Sokolich said that he believes Christie’s claims that he did not know about his aides’ plans to shut down lanes on the bridge.“I take him for his word, which is, he didn’t have anything to do with it,” Sokolich said.
276 | darthstar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:47:37pm |
Remember when Bob McDonnell was GOP rising star? I've seen your future, Chris Christie, and it involves legal bills.— Greg Pinelo (@gregpinelo) January 9, 2014
277 | Justanotherhuman Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:47:38pm |
No surprise.
Millionaires now have the majority in Congress
“For all of Congress, Democrats are richer than Republicans. Congressional Democrats had a median net worth of $1.04 million, while congressional Republicans had a median net worth of almost exactly $1 million. In both cases, the figures are up from the previous year, when the numbers were $990,000 and $907,000, respectively.
“The Senate is much richer than the House. The median net worth for all senators increased to $2.7 million from $2.5 million. In the Senate, Republicans are richer than Democrats. Senate Democrats reported a median net worth of $1.7 million (a decline from 2011’s $2.4 million), compared with Senate Republicans, at $2.9 million (an increase from $2.5 million).”
Democrats also tend to be older than Republicans, and that probably makes somewhat of a difference in wealth, also.
278 | dog philosopher Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:48:40pm |
Ancient secrets to save your sex life
i think i’d enjoy a bronze age sex life
279 | Justanotherhuman Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:49:48pm |
re: #272 FemNaziBitch
Today, such a housewife is a sign of affluence —not cellphones or refridgerators.
A housewife with help.
280 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:49:49pm |
Contract for reconstruction of 7 miles of I-96 in Livonia and Redford Twp. is $148.4 million, says MDOT— Ann Zaniewski (@AnnZaniewski) January 9, 2014
281 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:52:49pm |
Approximately 15.5 million children are exposed to domestic violence every year, and three women are killed by a current or former intimate partner each day.
282 | Justanotherhuman Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:53:36pm |
re: #275 psddluva4evah
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I hope that’s just for public consumption. I expect he was being diplomatic, because he sounded furious earlier. No one wants to hold a grudge, but I doubt that Sokolich will allow the apology to suffice for the harm it caused Ft. Lee residents.
283 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 2:55:21pm |
Christ Christie is tied at the hip to the #Koch brothers. pic.twitter.com/RC6uY4IEAe— #BoycottKoch (@GoodbyeKoch) January 9, 2014
284 | allegro Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:05:47pm |
re: #282 Justanotherhuman
I hope that’s just for public consumption. I expect he was being diplomatic, because he sounded furious earlier. No one wants to hold a grudge, but I doubt that Sokolich will allow the apology to suffice for the harm it caused Ft. Lee residents.
At this point he can afford to be magnanimous. Christie’s ass is in a sling and commupance will be had.
285 | darthstar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:10:09pm |
Best Christie joke of the day.
Christie releases statement: “The highway was jammed with broken heroes on a last chance power drive.”— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) January 8, 2014
286 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:12:16pm |
Richards agrees, writing, “Until we can get to the point where men and women can complete the same parenting tasks and the reactions are the same, we will have problems. If you want to create a statue for me for taking care of my daughters, create one for the moms who are doing the same damn thing every day for their kids without receiving a ‘Thank you’ or an ‘Ooooh’ or ‘Ahhhh.’ These behaviors should be expected of moms and dads. No exceptions.”
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288 | Romantic Heretic Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:15:04pm |
re: #120 Lidane
They obviously don’t know their history. Capitalism loves fascist states. It’s much more comfortable with this than democracy.
In a democracy all kinds of people, known as voters, get a say in how businesses are run. In a fascist state there are far fewer people in positions of authority and they tend to be very friendly with business owners.
Ask Krupp, Thiessen and Porsche how good business was eighty odd years ago.
289 | b.d. Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:18:40pm |
The butthurt grows strong on the right
If the #Bridgeghazi hashtag doesn't prove the rapid decay of American culture, I don't know what does.
— Jessica Chasmar (@JessicaChasmar) January 9, 2014
290 | Stanley Sea Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:18:41pm |
re: #285 darthstar
Best Christie joke of the day.
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Now I have an earworm. Which is just fine.
291 | Justanotherhuman Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:19:11pm |
Doctors say cutting food stamps could backfire
WASHINGTON (AP) — Doctors are warning that if Congress cuts food stamps, the federal government could be socked with bigger health bills. Maybe not immediately, they say, but over time if the poor wind up in doctors’ offices or hospitals as a result.
“Among the health risks of hunger are spiked rates of diabetes and developmental problems for young children down the road.
“The doctors’ lobbying effort comes as Congress is working on a compromise farm bill that’s certain to include food stamp cuts. Republicans want heftier reductions than do Democrats in yet another partisan battle over the government’s role in helping poor Americans.”
292 | lawhawk Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:20:35pm |
re: #253 Dark_Falcon
It’s an anonymously sourced article, so its credibility is suspect. Frankly, I can’t see why Gov. Christie would make a phone call like that to a dyed-blue-in-the-wool Democrat like Andrew Cuomo.
I have questions about the sourcing of what was stated in the private conversation between Cuomo and Christie, but as I’ve noted previously, the PANYNJ is a bistate agency where both governors of NY and NJ appoint top executives to the agency. They talk about policy regularly, and this could have been one of those instances.
293 | The Ghost of a Flea Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:25:26pm |
re: #288 Romantic Heretic
They obviously don’t know their history. Capitalism loves fascist states. It’s much more comfortable with this than democracy.
In a democracy all kinds of people, known as voters, get a say in how businesses are run. In a fascist state there are far fewer people in positions of authority and they tend to be very friendly with business owners.
Ask Krupp, Thiessen and Porsche how good business was eighty odd years ago.
Capitalists also like socialist and communist states, if they sell cheap shit. Soviet wheat, Chinese plastic, Angolan minerals….
The thing about the profit motive is that its profit motive all the way down. It doesn’t suddenly shrivel and get ethical when faced with a collectivistic state-controlled economy that can provide cheap goods.
294 | lawhawk Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:26:03pm |
The PANYNJ page regularly updates with alerts about its facilities - the airports, bridges, and tunnels. Lane closures are regularly posted there.
See the ongoing construction at the Bayonne Bridge, warnings about overnight construction, etc.
Note that updates are posted as needed, whether for the bridges, tunnels, or PATH.
Yet, we’re supposed to believe that access road closure to the GWB, the PANY’s single biggest asset - in terms of vehicle traffic - somehow didn’t rate any kind of warning whatsoever, because they were on double-secret traffic study probation?
That’s what Christie’s cronies want us to believe, and his repetition of “traffic study” as though one existed was to further this notion. If there was a traffic study, or adjustment in lanes at the GWB, it would have been publicized like all the other work and lane adjustments in the past.
It wasn’t. This wasn’t some ordinary move. And Christie knows this.
Heck, other GOPers know this too, but they’re playing for political points - whether it’s against Christie directly, or claiming that this is Hillary at work ahead of 2016 to knock down a potential rival - even as no one has actually declared running yet - except Rep. Peter King.
295 | Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:26:12pm |
re: #293 The Ghost of a Flea
Capitalists also like socialist and communist states, if they sell cheap shit. Soviet wheat, Chinese plastic, Angolan minerals….
Blood diamonds?
296 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:26:19pm |
re: #288 Romantic Heretic
They obviously don’t know their history. Capitalism loves fascist states. It’s much more comfortable with this than democracy.
In a democracy all kinds of people, known as voters, get a say in how businesses are run. In a fascist state there are far fewer people in positions of authority and they tend to be very friendly with business owners.
Ask Krupp, Thiessen and Porsche how good business was eighty odd years ago.
Still not great in the winter of 1934, since Hitler had not yet renounced the limitations of the Treaty of Versailles. He actually could not at that point, as he was at that point still the Chancellor of Germany and not yet the head of state.
Krupp was building naval cannon for the cruisers and destroyers Germany was building as well as armor plate in small amounts for the cruisers.
297 | The Ghost of a Flea Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:28:37pm |
re: #295 Eclectic Cyborg
Blood diamonds?
Semiconductors and other elements used in electronic devices.
298 | goddamnedfrank Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:30:14pm |
re: #253 Dark_Falcon
It’s an anonymously sourced article, so its credibility is suspect. Frankly, I can’t see why Gov. Christie would make a phone call like that to a dyed-blue-in-the-wool Democrat like Andrew Cuomo.
Because they’re the governors of the two states involved and both have joint oversight of the Authority. Also you seem to have conveniently missed the part where one of Christie’s spokesman says the two governors talk frequently.
A spokesman for Mr. Christie said the governor talks to Mr. Cuomo regularly “on any number of mutual-interest topics. Those conversations are private.”
In other words, yes it happened but it’s supposed to be private so they’re not going to talk about it because it tends to paint Christie as a corrupt, vindictive turd pile.
299 | Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:34:06pm |
re: #289 b.d.
The butthurt grows strong on the right
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Not just from the right. I’m the son of an American diplomat and my father died in the line of duty. I find it distasteful too.
301 | freetoken Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:36:03pm |
GOP rebranding, still a work in progress:
Lawmakers from area line up bills
[…]
The first day of session Wednesday was a ceremonial and planning day, as legislators await the serious work next week, when committees begin to meet to take up bills, said Del. Richard P. “Dickie” Bell.
Bell, R-Staunton, introduced a bill inspired by a Tennessee law that would shield public school teachers from punishment if classroom science discussions veer into controversial theories, Bell said.
Critics have called the proposal a Creationism bill or suggested that it promote one side or the other on the global warming debate, but that’s not its intention, Bell said.
Teachers shouldn’t pick sides, but also should not be discouraged from discussing different viewpoints, Bell said.
“We know that there are teachers who encourage the free flow of discussion, and that allows students to develop critical thinking skills,” he said.
[…]
302 | goddamnedfrank Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:38:22pm |
re: #256 erik_t
It was published almost a month ago. A Christie spokesman was quoted in the article. Did the spokesman never tell Christie what was said on his behalf?
So far Christie’s only defense is that he’s the most incredibly credulous and incurious motherfucker ever to hold office anywhere. In the midst of repeated denials about this specific scandal his people start resigning unexpectedly, some are quoted in newspapers like the WSJ, and he shows absolutely zero goddamned initiative or interest in figuring out what the fuck is has been going on in his own office.
Apparently that’s what passes for leadership in GOP circles. He’s so much toast now, his 2016 GOP primary opponents are going to attack him relentlessly over this, and it’s going to bring out the absolute worst in his already stunningly awful, combative personality.
303 | b.d. Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:38:57pm |
re: #299 Killgore Trout
Not just from the right. I’m the son of an American diplomat and my father died in the line of duty. I find it distasteful too.
The blame falls on the ones who cheapened the deaths by using them as nothing but props for a political witch hunt. That is my take and you are certainly entitled to yours Killgore Trout.
Your opinion I respect, theirs not at all.
304 | Petero1818 Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:39:09pm |
Those on the right so livid that the name “Bridgeghazi” is disrespectful to those that died that day need to be told 2 things:
1) we are not making fun of the terrible tragedy that happened to those 4 and their loved ones. We are making fun of those that have sought to use that tragedy for political gain; and
2) The reality is that the deliberate and reckless act of a GOP administration in trying to exact revenge on a political foe at the expense of American citizens (and possibly contributing to the death of one person in doing so) is far more egregious than a Democratic administration having insufficient foresight to prevent an attack by terrorists or militant crowds on their consulate in a hostile environment.
305 | Snarknado! Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:41:59pm |
Maybe we should just go back to “bridgegate.”
306 | RealityBasedSteve Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:43:07pm |
re: #278 dog philosopher
Ancient secrets to save your sex life
i think i’d enjoy a bronze age sex life
How much earlier do I hit my Bronze Age before I enter my Golden Years?
RBS
307 | Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:44:03pm |
re: #303 b.d.
The blame falls on the ones who cheapened the deaths by using them as nothing but props for a political witch hunt. That is my take and you are certainly entitled to yours Killgore Trout.
Your opinion I respect, theirs not at all.
I find it offensive but I’m not overly bothered by it. I’ve come to expect it and I consider it more of a reflection on people using the term because they think it’s funny. They’d mock anyone’s death if they thought it was a political “win”, I can’t take it seriously or personally.
308 | b_sharp Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:44:46pm |
re: #281 FemNaziBitch
Victim of domestic violence - been there, done that.
My younger brother still wonders why I have such an aloof relationship with my dad.
309 | freetoken Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:45:38pm |
This is America, 2013 2014:
John Brock: The Universe is both dying and evolving? How can that be?
On the dawn of this New Year, there are many things in this world that I don’t understand. Too many, in fact.
For instance, some folks persist in telling us that the universe was created by some gigantic celestial accident – a “Big Bang.” And things have evolved ever since. But have they?
According to the evolutionists, exploding pieces of mass became suns, comets and planets – and us. [ed: no, that would be cosmologists, not “evolutionists”.]
[…]
They claim they can “prove” all of this through fossils, mathematics and conjecture. Conjecture? Sounds like an unproven “theory” to me. Yet, these folks are succeeding in having any alternative view prohibited from public school curricula. I suppose this is another example of evolution or should I say, “Survival of the fittest.” They have certainly managed the courts very well of late.
For generations, those who believed in a world created by a Supreme Being were allowed their say. Now, because of a few vocal folks and Political Correctness, the discussion is no longer allowed in some public venues. During all of those years of tolerance for opposing views, I can’t point to a single incident where someone was damaged by the illumination of the spiritual concept of creation.
[…]
My goodness, when I was in public school, we were taught all about the Roman and Grecian gods – Zeus, Apollo, Jupiter, Cupid, Diana and the whole host of mythical beings. I don’t really think my generation was harmed by this exposure and never was a single student ever converted to the worship of antique statues.
[…]
Seems to me, both sides deserve equal exposure but to the secularist Darwinists, the creation of a world whose initial creation cannot be explained is “Science” but an “Intelligent Design” concept belongs to religion and, therefore, should not be sanctioned in a public setting.
But here’s the main point I don’t understand:
The same “scientists” who instruct us in the process of “evolution” of life are the very same folks who tell us the world is “winding down.” As I understand it, from the moment of the Big Bang, they assert the universe is expanding but slowing down; the sun is cooling off; the orbits of planets are slowing (We just added a second to earth time a year or two ago because of this slowing down) and the universe as we know it is slowly dying. [ed: this is all nonsense, and conflates 2nd law of thermodynamics with some unidentified idiocy.]
Now, how can the universe be both dying and evolving at the same time. They don’t have a sensible explanation for this question either.
So, if you please, I will continue to hold to my beliefs that “God”, as I know Him, did, indeed, create the universe and life therein. […]
Why can’t we just let folks make up their own minds by tolerating discussion of both views in the public arena – including our schools!
John Brock is a retired newspaper editor/publisher and college professor who lives in Georgetown County and can be reached by mail at this newspaper or via Email: brock@johnbrock.com.
310 | erik_t Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:47:21pm |
re: #309 freetoken
This is
:
John Brock: The Universe is both dying and evolving? How can that be?
Now, how can the universe be both dying and evolving at the same time. They don’t have a sensible explanation for this question either.
It could be that you need to pick up a dictionary, you fucking ignoramus. Words mean things. Heat death is not death; progression according to physics is not evolution.
Jesus H. Christ.
311 | Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:51:13pm |
re: #299 Killgore Trout
Not just from the right. I’m the son of an American diplomat and my father died in the line of duty. I find it distasteful too.
Then you have an opinion about the ghoulish cause celebre that is the entirety of the Benghazi warcry. The passion to cripple Obama at all costs brought the whole damn tribe out to dance on the graves of 4 men who died in line of duty.
312 | darthstar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:51:25pm |
@Capoglou @KCGibbons One day, Watson will be small enough that Ken Jennings can drown him in a bathtub.— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) January 9, 2014
314 | darthstar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:54:19pm |
Why couldn't Christie be in a respectable scandal involving hookers, drugs, and a dead body? These traffic jokes are getting old already.— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) January 9, 2014
315 | goddamnedfrank Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:54:52pm |
Predict that if Christie makes it to the 2016 GOP debates the term “asleep at the wheel,” will be leveled at him more than once.
And that’s his best possible outcome from all this.
316 | RealityBasedSteve Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:57:30pm |
re: #309 freetoken
This is America,
20132014:John Brock: The Universe is both dying and evolving? How can that be?
Well, my “opinion” is that the “writer” really “needs” to get a basic “education”. Let’s “start” with the “proper” use of “quotes”. Yes, you can use quotes to indicate a word is being used ironically or with some reservation, but I doubt that most of the users are aware of the rule.
My rule of thumb, any screed with 2 or more scare quotes earns -5 on it’s saving throw for being accepted as serious.
RBS
317 | Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:58:26pm |
re: #311 Decatur Deb
I do have an opinion which I have shared many times. Although I’m interested in what happened in Benghazi the partisan investigation is mostly motivated by looking for dirt and scandal. My interest is separate from the congressional investigation.
318 | freetoken Thu, Jan 9, 2014 3:58:28pm |
re: #316 RealityBasedSteve
The writer doesn’t care - it is a propaganda piece intended to keep the religious feeling victimized and make sure they don’t leave the fold.
319 | b_sharp Thu, Jan 9, 2014 4:00:14pm |
re: #310 erik_t
It could be that you need to pick up a dictionary, you fucking ignoramus. Words mean things. Heat death is not death; progression according to physics is not evolution.
Jesus H. Christ.
He didn’t mention that his education about other gods was not in science class but in comparative religion or history class. if he wants his particular sect taught in those same classes then he already has his wish, as far as I know Christianity has not been removed from classes outside of science. His comment was a bit of a bait and switch.
His inability to understand that evolution is change in response to environmental change and doesn’t include physics before life shows his dishonest or possibly confused attempt at misinformation.
I was going to list the fallacies he made but there are too many to bother with.
320 | RealityBasedSteve Thu, Jan 9, 2014 4:00:24pm |
re: #318 freetoken
The writer doesn’t care - it is a propaganda piece intended to keep the religious feeling victimized and make sure they don’t leave the fold.
Well, he should care!!!!! It makes me angry. And you wouldn’t like me when I’m angry. (actually some people don’t like me any of the time)
RBS
321 | RealityBasedSteve Thu, Jan 9, 2014 4:01:45pm |
re: #319 b_sharp
He didn’t mention that his education about other gods was not in science class but in comparative religion or history class. if he wants his particular sect taught in those same classes then he already has his wish, as far as I know Christianity has not been removed from classes outside of science. His comment was a bit of a bait and switch.
His inability to understand that evolution is change in response to environmental change and doesn’t include physics before life shows his dishonest or possibly confused attempt at misinformation.
I was going to list the fallacies he made but there are too many to bother with.
You can’t. I think his fallacies have fallacies of their own. There may even be a recursive fractal fallacy being invoked.
RBS
322 | b_sharp Thu, Jan 9, 2014 4:01:56pm |
re: #320 RealityBasedSteve
Well, he should care!!!!! It makes me angry. And you wouldn’t like me when I’m angry. (actually some people don’t like me any of the time)
RBS
We don’t like you either.
323 | RealityBasedSteve Thu, Jan 9, 2014 4:02:38pm |
324 | erik_t Thu, Jan 9, 2014 4:02:52pm |
re: #319 b_sharp
I was going to list the fallacies he made but there are too many to bother with.
There’s little point in worrying about minor fallacies when the entire argument (so to speak) is based on completely false pretenses and a wholesale misunderstanding of the basic concepts under discussion.
325 | b_sharp Thu, Jan 9, 2014 4:03:30pm |
re: #321 RealityBasedSteve
You can’t. I think his fallacies have fallacies of their own. There may even be a recursive fractal fallacy being invoked.
RBS
That fact was dawning on me. Fractal Fallacy. Cool band name. Fractal Phallicy is also good.
327 | RealityBasedSteve Thu, Jan 9, 2014 4:04:40pm |
re: #325 b_sharp
That fact was dawning on me. Fractal Fallacy. Cool band name. Fractal Phallicy is also good.
Hey, that describes Ted Cruz. At every level imaginable, from the largest to the smallest, the man is still a dick.
RBS
328 | darthstar Thu, Jan 9, 2014 4:04:47pm |
NOHING HAS EVER MADE MY DAY LIKE THIS DID. “@RavenBerns: Meet the girl who will be operating you in 20 years. pic.twitter.com/4T5IzGmnVP”— SarcasticRover (@SarcasticRover) January 10, 2014
329 | RealityBasedSteve Thu, Jan 9, 2014 4:06:03pm |
re: #326 b_sharp
He told me to do it.
[RBS High-Fives b_sharp] Well done!!!! I needed a couple of good laughs this evening, this exchange as provided them for me.
RBS
330 | Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 9, 2014 4:07:33pm |
Pressure Mounts on Reid as 58 Senators Back Iran Sanctions
I don’t think he’s going to allow the vote, there might be enough votes to make it veto-proof and Obama seems to have his foreign policy centered around a deal with Iran. Without a deal he’s just created a lot of instability for nothing.
331 | b_sharp Thu, Jan 9, 2014 4:07:42pm |
re: #327 RealityBasedSteve
Hey, that describes Ted Cruz. At every level imaginable, from the largest to the smallest, the man is still a dick.
RBS
That had me LOLing. The wife asked what the joke was. I just said “Ted Cruz”. She understood.
332 | b_sharp Thu, Jan 9, 2014 4:08:24pm |
re: #329 RealityBasedSteve
[RBS High-Fives b_sharp] Well done!!!! I needed a couple of good laughs this evening, this exchange as provided them for me.
RBS
Glad to help bro.
333 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 9, 2014 4:25:00pm |
re: #298 goddamnedfrank
Because they’re the governors of the two states involved and both have joint authority over the Authority. Also you seem to have conveniently missed the part where one of Christie’s spokesman says the two governors talk frequently.
In other words, yes it happened but it’s supposed to be private so they’re not going to talk about it because it tends to paint Christie as a corrupt, vindictive turd pile.
Frank, I’m routinely skeptical of such articles. Don’t read my words in that post as a defense of Chris Christie. I just found it hard to believe that Christie would be that foolish.
336 | No Country For Old Haters Thu, Jan 9, 2014 5:02:40pm |
re: #13 b.d.
.@benshapiro They're not idiots, they're making fun of sickos like you and the idiots you mislead, who try gain politically from a tragedy.— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) January 10, 2014
337 | No Country For Old Haters Thu, Jan 9, 2014 5:06:04pm |
re: #289 b.d.
.@JessicaChasmar They're just mocking the lowlifes that tried to make a scandal of Benghazi. This is what sanity looks like.— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) January 10, 2014