Bruce Springsteen: Stolen Car

Each night I wait to get caught, but I never do
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I’ve always thought of this as one of the best songs Bruce Springsteen ever wrote — if not the best. A heartbreaking tale of loss and desperation told in small descriptive moments.

I met a little girl and I settled down
In a little house out on the edge of town
We got married, and swore we’d never part
Then little by little we drifted from each other’s hearts

At first I thought it was just restlessness
That would fade as time went by and our love grew deep
In the end it was something more I guess
That tore us apart and made us weep

And I’m driving a stolen car
Down on Eldridge Avenue
Each night I wait to get caught
But I never do

She asked if I remembered the letters I wrote
When our love was young and bold
She said last night she read those letters
And they made her feel one hundred years old

And I’m driving a stolen car
On a pitch black night
And I’m telling myself I’m gonna be alright
But I ride by night and I travel in fear
That in this darkness I will disappear

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393 comments
1 Charles Johnson  Dec 11, 2014 9:48:20pm
2 teleskiguy  Dec 11, 2014 10:07:16pm
3 Kragar  Dec 11, 2014 10:35:20pm
4 freetoken  Dec 12, 2014 1:02:22am

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5 Kragar  Dec 12, 2014 1:14:25am
6 goddamnedfrank  Dec 12, 2014 1:23:35am

A lot of people don’t understand how commissioning a photographer actually works, they aren’t “works for hire” unless you actually “employ” them, which involves paying taxes, social security and medicare. This is why most people don’t actually own the copyright to the photographs in their wedding album. It’d be funny if Politico was a stickler on this, and made him go get the photographer to file the request before complying.

7 goddamnedfrank  Dec 12, 2014 1:38:30am

Oh my Gawd, Tiffany! Did you tell Amber that I stuff my bra?! I knew it … like, total-lay … she’s such a lying skank!

8 goddamnedfrank  Dec 12, 2014 1:39:59am
9 Kragar  Dec 12, 2014 1:47:59am

re: #7 goddamnedfrank

10 Kragar  Dec 12, 2014 1:49:13am
11 Kragar  Dec 12, 2014 2:01:49am
12 Varek Raith  Dec 12, 2014 2:13:57am

re: #11 Kragar

Having rain issues?

13 Kragar  Dec 12, 2014 2:15:33am

re: #12 Varek Raith

Having rain issues?

Nothing here yet

14 Kragar  Dec 12, 2014 2:16:06am
15 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 2:23:55am
One was a protest against the campus appearance of Sister Helen Prejean, a Catholic nun and death penalty opponent (Johnson accused her of defending Adolf Eichmann for saying that she would not have endorsed the Nazi leader’s execution).

Read more: politico.com

Little puke.

16 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 2:44:09am

So this position:

If her defense of a man like Williams weren’t enough, Prejean, in a debate with Dennis Prager that occurred on “Larry King Live,” could not bring herself to endorse the execution of Adolf Eichmann, who ordered the execution of at least three million Jews. She refuses to recognize that it may be morally justifiable to execute people for even the most heinous crimes.

suddenly morphs into this:

However, if Prejean seems slow to condemn evil on the scale of Eichmann or the killers that populate our death rows, she’s very quick to condemn President George W. Bush.

Then into this:

Note her earlier defense of Eichmann.

Typical Chuck Poop Johnson.

17 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 12, 2014 3:00:00am
Is Charles Johnson A Digital Darth Vader?

Bwahahahahahahaha!

18 goddamnedfrank  Dec 12, 2014 3:05:02am

Oh for fuck’s sake …

19 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 12, 2014 3:06:27am

re: #18 goddamnedfrank
So it’s now pretty obvious that UpChuck tweets all night and sleeps all day.

20 goddamnedfrank  Dec 12, 2014 3:10:52am

re: #19 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Pretty much the saddest “I have a black friend,” ever.

Also he was super popular back then.

CCJ pretty much peaked during middle school, people didn’t despise him yet and he could control his bowels.

21 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 12, 2014 3:12:38am

re: #20 goddamnedfrank

Pretty much the saddest “I have a black friend,” ever.

Also he was super popular then.

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CCJ pretty much peaked during middle school, people didn’t despise him yet and he could still maintain control of his bowels.

A LANDSLIDE! In junior high!

I notice he blamed autism again in the Politico article.

22 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 3:14:27am

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

Oh for fuck’s sake …

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Which means he doesn’t even have any black friends to use as shields?

23 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 3:26:50am

BTW, it wouldn’t be Politico if it didn’t throw in nuggets like this one:

To his many critics, much of this has been misleading or downright wrong—not to mention what they consider to be sexist, racist or professionally irresponsible

24 Timothy Watson  Dec 12, 2014 3:56:23am

FFS, I really hate having to reset my password every time I attempt to log into a different web application because I can’t remember it!

25 Timothy Watson  Dec 12, 2014 4:06:59am

re: #24 Timothy Watson

Dammit! And because that password I reset was a single-site login for a college, it also messed up my 5 Gmail pinned tabs because if one login messes up they all go.

26 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 4:12:11am

A must read for those with interest in the topic:

On the Left or in Russia? The Strange Case of Foreign pro-Kremlin Radical Leftists

(there is also part 2)

27 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 12, 2014 4:37:56am

Dead thread! :D

28 Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2014 4:38:21am

re: #27 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Dead thread! :D

I’m not dead yet!

29 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 4:38:24am

BRAAAAIIINNSSSS!

30 Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2014 4:44:40am

re: #29 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

BRAAAAIIINNSSSS!

Oh crap, a Fox News employee.

31 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 4:49:37am

re: #30 Targetpractice

Oh crap, a Fox News viewer.

ftfy

32 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 12, 2014 4:50:34am

re: #30 Targetpractice

Oh crap, a Fox News employee.

Some sad news: Veteran Fox News Correspondent Found Dead From Apparent Suicide

42. :(

33 Amory Blaine  Dec 12, 2014 4:51:33am

Vader? No. This guy maybe.

34 Dr. Matt  Dec 12, 2014 4:56:53am

Chucky is planning yet another lawsuit

35 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2014 4:57:29am
36 Varek Raith  Dec 12, 2014 5:03:12am
37 darthstar  Dec 12, 2014 5:05:10am
38 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2014 5:08:07am

Chucky’s next stupid trick: he will doxx Malala Yousafzai for skipping school in order to accept Nobel Peace Prize

39 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 5:08:34am

re: #35 The Vicious Babushka

If only more cops were like that.

40 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 5:09:18am

OK, you’ve forced me to skim-rewatch Idiocracy.

41 Dr. Matt  Dec 12, 2014 5:09:47am

It’s 5 am Chucky’s time; he must have a hard time sleeping with his world slowing collapsing around him.

42 Varek Raith  Dec 12, 2014 5:11:35am

re: #41 Dr. Matt

It’s 5 am Chucky’s time; he must have a hard time sleeping with his world slowing collapsing around him.

‘Journalism’ never sleeps.

43 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2014 5:12:50am

So let me get this straight:

Chucky is always threatening to sue people when they do to him (far less actually) what he regularly does to others.

Is that about right?

44 A Mom Anon  Dec 12, 2014 5:13:16am

re: #37 darthstar

I have never met an adult who ever touted their Jr. High accomplishments as relevant to their adult lives (unless they started a business or invented something cool or whatever). If I brought that up among friends they’d laugh in my face, and rightfully so. Who the fuck cares if you were class president in Jr. High School? (elected by a landslide, I am DYING over here, OMG what a dipshit) In fact, I think that could be bullshit, do they even elect class presidents at that grade level?

45 Varek Raith  Dec 12, 2014 5:13:22am

re: #43 The Vicious Babushka

So let me get this straight:

Chucky is always threatening to sue people when they do to him (far less actually) what he regularly does to others.

Is that about right?

Yes.

46 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2014 5:15:24am

re: #44 A Mom Anon

I have never met an adult who ever touted their Jr. High accomplishments as relevant to their adult lives (unless they started a business or invented something cool or whatever). If I brought that up among friends they’d laugh in my face, and rightfully so. Who the fuck cares if you were class president in Jr. High School? (elected by a landslide, I am DYING over here, OMG what a dipshit) In fact, I think that could be bullshit, do they even elect class presidents at that grade level?

That’s the operative word here.

47 Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2014 5:17:01am

Chucky, threats only work if the person on the other side of them actually thinks you’ll go through with it. And some little shitstain of a blogger is not going to send anyone fleeing in terror when he threatens to sue for everyone who breaths a bad word about him for libel.

48 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2014 5:18:25am

When is Hannity going to get waterboarded?

49 Dr. Matt  Dec 12, 2014 5:21:58am

re: #48 The Vicious Babushka

2060 days….right?

50 Dr. Matt  Dec 12, 2014 5:37:44am

I’m out of popcorn….

51 Varek Raith  Dec 12, 2014 5:39:44am

We must become monsters to beat monsters11!11ty
/RW

52 Belafon  Dec 12, 2014 5:40:48am

re: #47 Targetpractice

Which is why Chuck himself will never stop saying what he does until some cop shows up at the door with a summons.

53 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2014 5:41:30am

re: #50 Dr. Matt

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I’m out of popcorn….

I would totally retweet that, but it’s Dan Riehl.

54 Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2014 5:42:22am

re: #51 Varek Raith

We must become monsters to beat monsters11!11ty
/RW

No, to fight monsters, we have to create monsters. Pacific Rim taught me that.

/

55 b.d.  Dec 12, 2014 5:42:30am

Please, please, please, please.

:)

Backers: Romney more open to 2016 run

He has sounded unimpressed with the emerging GOP field, associates say.

Read more: politico.com

I can’t wait for that circus to go on tour.

56 Dr. Matt  Dec 12, 2014 5:45:54am

re: #53 The Vicious Babushka

I would totally retweet that, but it’s Dan Riehl.

….and Riehl blocked me….

@ChuckCJohnson #poopgate @GotNewsDotCorn @GotNewsDotCom @gotknews
57 Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2014 5:46:32am

re: #55 b.d.

Please, please, please, please.

:)

I can’t wait for that circus to go on tour.

I saw a blog post the other day that pointed out that it’s likely that, come next year, the GOP will for the first time since ‘64 choose a candidate based upon who the base want rather than who the party’s elite end up blessing. Why? Because there’s no favorite of the latter group that could convincingly win over the former.

58 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 5:47:58am

re: #50 Dr. Matt

That thread is all kinds of win.

59 bubba zanetti  Dec 12, 2014 5:48:13am

re: #56 Dr. Matt

Is #gotpoos a thing?

60 Dr. Matt  Dec 12, 2014 5:49:44am

re: #58 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

That thread is all kinds of win.

Good lord, it just escalated past elevenity.

61 Varek Raith  Dec 12, 2014 5:50:21am

Two assholes enter…

62 Dr. Matt  Dec 12, 2014 5:51:30am

re: #61 Varek Raith

Two assholes enter…

One of them shits on the floor.

63 Belafon  Dec 12, 2014 5:51:45am

re: #54 Targetpractice

And Starblazers taught me how to send a battleship into space.

64 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2014 5:52:01am

re: #58 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

That thread is all kinds of win.

Where?

65 Varek Raith  Dec 12, 2014 5:52:58am

re: #63 Belafon

And Starblazers taught me how to send a battleship into space.

It’s all fun and games until some jerk fires a wave motion gun.

66 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 5:53:20am

re: #64 The Vicious Babushka

Where?

The exchange between Riehl and Chuckles and all kinds of twitterers.

67 Timothy Watson  Dec 12, 2014 5:53:23am

He really can’t make up his mind, can he?

68 Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2014 5:56:33am

re: #67 Timothy Watson

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He really can’t make up his mind, can he?

I’d donate to that campaign just to watch his concession speech, though I imagine in true petulant fashion, he’d just refuse to admit he lost and threaten to sue his opponent for daring to run against him.

69 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 5:57:37am

Funny thing is, when they write about each other, Riehl and the Poopster are both right.

70 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 12, 2014 6:00:47am

re:
#67

I’m openly considering a congressional bid against my representative

Translation: I need the money the job would provide.

71 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2014 6:06:15am

What about those creepy “Christian spirit” dolls that GDF was talking about last week?

72 Mike Lamb  Dec 12, 2014 6:07:17am

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

Oh for fuck’s sake …

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The last refuge of the racist…”I have a black friend…”

It says something that CCJ can’t even go Al Bundy…he has to go back to middle school.

73 b.d.  Dec 12, 2014 6:09:22am

re: #67 Timothy Watson

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He really can’t make up his mind, can he?

WITHIN THE SAME WEEK!

74 b.d.  Dec 12, 2014 6:10:24am

re: #68 Targetpractice

I’d donate to that campaign just to watch his concession speech, though I imagine in true petulant fashion, he’d just refuse to admit he lost and threaten to sue his opponent for daring to run against him.

Nope. No concession speech. The election was obviously stolen from him and he will sue everybody.

//

75 lawhawk  Dec 12, 2014 6:11:11am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Having grown up in the area, people took sides on rock and roll, like everything else.

You were either a Billy Joel person, or a Bruce person (Bon Jovi came much much later and frankly, just doesn’t count).

Always was a Bruce person. But think his best song was Badlands. Most subversive? By a huge margin, it’s got to be Born in the USA. It sounds like a rock anthem, but it really can and should be played as a dirge (he’s played it acoustically in that fashion countless times). That you had people think it was an uplifting song like the GOP and Reaganites did ignoring what the lyrics actually said, speaks volumes.

76 b.d.  Dec 12, 2014 6:11:58am

re: #57 Targetpractice

I can’t wait for that circus to go on tour.

I saw a blog post the other day that pointed out that it’s likely that, come next year, the GOP will for the first time since ‘64 choose a candidate based upon who the base want rather than who the party’s elite end up blessing. Why? Because there’s no favorite of the latter group that could convincingly win over the former.

The baggers may just have this deal wrapped up if they can keep a candidate from throwing himself overboard. Last cycle they ran through them all as each and every one of them committed political suicide once they became the front runner.

77 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 6:12:58am

re: #71 The Vicious Babushka

What about those creepy “Christian spirit” dolls that GDF was talking about last week?

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Both are creepy.

78 lawhawk  Dec 12, 2014 6:13:35am

re: #73 b.d.

Dude has some serious issues. Can’t even get his own story straight. Pathetic.

And it’s pathetic that so many people think he’s worthy of retweets and has “broken” stories.

He’s broken them, just not in the typical usage of being first to uncover a detail or fact that is key to the story.

He’s broken them because after he touches them, everything goes to shit.

79 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 12, 2014 6:13:57am

Good morning Lizards. Cloudy and just above freezing temps here in Philly. Some snow flurries yesterday, but no accumulation.

Clash of wills with a Feline Overlord yesterday while I was home sick. Tuxedo Cat deemed that she was receiving insufficient attention and/or dislike of the type of chow in the dish — so she went roaming onto the kitchen counter for things to knock onto the floor or into the sink. (Knowing that when this started I would be roused from my chair to respond.)

Note: Tuxedo Cat doesn’t do laps or sit for pets. Demands attention in general, especially regarding dry food.

Around the third go-round of this behavior I lost patience and exiled her to the bedroom for an hour.* After she was let back out she started right back up again with 15 minutes. So she got exiled to the bedroom again for another hour. (Chat Noir, during all this, was quietly hanging out in the same room. Or sitting by the bedroom door listening to Tuxedo Cat scratch at the other side.)

After 2nd exile Tuxedo Cat behaved for about 30 minutes. Then, right back up on the counter again. As I approached her this time she jumped down, went past the bedroom to the bench by the door - and jumped up and sat on the jacket lying on the bench. I recognized this as “bunker/safe point” behavior from cat-to-cat pursuit. So I left her there. And she promptly laid down there and napped for the rest of the afternoon.

I can only wish that she learns to leave stuff alone on the counter.

* - Exile is not that bad a thing. Windows to watch from, water, chow, and a litter box all available. Thus my willingness to lock a misbehaving cat in there.

80 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 12, 2014 6:16:11am

re:
#2

I just walked in. This dude been steady tweeting me for…the past six hours. This twitter shit is a narcotic. Scratch. Hate is a narcotic.

He’s got a couple of live ones….

81 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 12, 2014 6:16:57am

re:
#79

Clash of wills with a Feline Overlord yesterday while I was home sick.

That couldn’t have gone well….

82 darthstar  Dec 12, 2014 6:18:14am
83 b.d.  Dec 12, 2014 6:22:19am

re: #82 darthstar

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I wouldn’t put that by that creepy jerk Appelbaum. Hope they kick his dudebro ass out of Germany for it.

84 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 12, 2014 6:23:08am

Pretty intense video this morning-Ventura county Camarillo Springs-Some homes have up to 12 feet of mud and rock all through them. A dozen homes or more are total losses.

85 darthstar  Dec 12, 2014 6:23:19am

re: #83 b.d.

I wouldn’t put that by that creepy jerk Appelbaum. Hope they kick his dudebro ass out of Germany for it.

One less Snowden scoop for GG.

86 b.d.  Dec 12, 2014 6:23:41am

re: #85 darthstar

One less Snowden scoop for GG.

One less monthly check for Putin to write.

87 wrenchwench  Dec 12, 2014 6:23:46am

re: #75 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Having grown up in the area, people took sides on rock and roll, like everything else.

You were either a Billy Joel person, or a Bruce person (Bon Jovi came much much later and frankly, just doesn’t count).

Always was a Bruce person. But think his best song was Badlands. Most subversive? By a huge margin, it’s got to be Born in the USA. It sounds like a rock anthem, but it really can and should be played as a dirge (he’s played it acoustically in that fashion countless times). That you had people think it was an uplifting song like the GOP and Reaganites did ignoring what the lyrics actually said, speaks volumes.

Never a big Bruce fan, I didn’t realize he wrote this Patty Griffin song.

88 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 12, 2014 6:25:37am

re: #79 Feline Fearless Leader

We call it Cat Jail. Spare bathroom with cat box, water, etc. When we let her out I call her probie.

89 darthstar  Dec 12, 2014 6:27:12am
90 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 12, 2014 6:28:07am

re:
#88

Does this teach the cat anything?

91 Dr. Matt  Dec 12, 2014 6:29:18am

re: #82 darthstar

Has GG chimed in yet?

92 darthstar  Dec 12, 2014 6:30:22am

re: #91 Dr. Matt

Has GG chimed in yet?

I don’t really care. I just like his story falling apart.

93 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 6:31:04am

re: #82 darthstar

Uh, how does one jump from “no evidence that would lead to prosecution” to “cooked the story”? I would not expect the Germans to have evidence about NSA’s activities (and leaked files are not actionable).

94 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 12, 2014 6:31:42am

re: #88 Rightwingconspirator

We call it Cat Jail. Spare bathroom with cat box, water, etc. When we let her out I call her probie.

Roughly the same concept. I would have to move a water bowl and food bowl into a bathroom to carry it to that level.

I am seriously considering use of a spray bottle. But that will only result in her avoiding the counter when I am there. And in effect it will also be an anti-socialization tool when I am still working towards getting both cats more socialized.*

And most passive measures won’t work. Tuxedo Cat *loves* double-sided tape for instance. She tore down foil protecting the back of chairs in order to get at and play with the tape holding the foil on.

* - Chat Noir twigged onto the concept of sleeping *on* a lap the other day instead of sleeping beside the human heating element. Forced to do so due to lack of room on the chair.

95 b.d.  Dec 12, 2014 6:32:07am

re: #91 Dr. Matt

Has GG chimed in yet?

I am sure he is busy scrubbing his history so he can deny that he ever supported anything Jacob ever did.

Appelbaum’s plan of doing a diplomatic version Helter Skelter almost worked!

//

96 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 12, 2014 6:33:43am

re: #90 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#88

Does this teach the cat anything?

I have my doubts. But in my case it gets her out of the trouble spot for a while so that I can work/read undisturbed for a period of time. And it’s pretty clear that she doesn’t like being exiled either, so maybe it will cause a behavior modification.

97 Randall Gross  Dec 12, 2014 6:34:30am

re: #75 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Having grown up in the area, people took sides on rock and roll, like everything else.

You were either a Billy Joel person, or a Bruce person (Bon Jovi came much much later and frankly, just doesn’t count).

Always was a Bruce person. But think his best song was Badlands. Most subversive? By a huge margin, it’s got to be Born in the USA. It sounds like a rock anthem, but it really can and should be played as a dirge (he’s played it acoustically in that fashion countless times). That you had people think it was an uplifting song like the GOP and Reaganites did ignoring what the lyrics actually said, speaks volumes.

Then there are the Joey people:

98 lawhawk  Dec 12, 2014 6:36:08am

re: #97 Randall Gross

This is true. They don’t get a whole lot of praise, but they are definitely good. Never got to see ‘em live.

KISS is another NYC metro area staple, since the guys are all from NYC.

99 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 12, 2014 6:36:12am

Did anyone ever shop a beard onto one of these? Maybe I missed it. Where’s ObserverArt? Gus? Anyone?

100 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 12, 2014 6:36:38am

re:
#96

But in my case it gets her out of the trouble spot for a while so that I can work/read undisturbed for a period of time.

I hear ya.

101 leftynyc  Dec 12, 2014 6:37:08am

re: #71 The Vicious Babushka

What about those creepy “Christian spirit” dolls that GDF was talking about last week?

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I looked it up and Amish dolls are also faceless. It’s to show we’re all the same in the eyes of G-d. Is the clown now going to say the Amish are also shariah compliant?

102 darthstar  Dec 12, 2014 6:38:21am
103 darthstar  Dec 12, 2014 6:39:57am
104 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 6:40:10am

spiegel.de

Range never said or implied that the purported NSA doc is fake. He only pointed out that the published text is not the authentic document itself. The map is not the territory. Hence a text of the purported document - whether there was such a document or not - cannot lead to a prosecution.

105 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 12, 2014 6:41:29am

re: #104 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

It is not a crime unless you can be prosecuted for it, everybody knows that, especially Bush, Rumsfield and Cheney…

106 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 12, 2014 6:41:53am

re: #101 leftynyc

I looked it up and Amish dolls are also faceless. It’s to show we’re all the same in the eyes of G-d. Is the clown now going to say the Amish are also shariah compliant?

These people can’t even Google.

Corn Husk Doll
107 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 6:42:19am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It is not a crime unless you can be prosecuted for it, everybody knows that, especially Bush, Rumsfield and Cheney…

Exactly.

108 darthstar  Dec 12, 2014 6:43:02am

re: #103 darthstar

Never mind…now he’s embellishing too much.

109 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 6:43:18am

re: #106 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Those are some creepy dolls.

110 FemNaziBitch  Dec 12, 2014 6:43:59am

How is it now?

111 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 12, 2014 6:44:42am

re: #109 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Those are some creepy dolls.

Some of them have faces.

112 Kid A  Dec 12, 2014 6:44:48am

George Washington: “But first, let me take a selfie.”

113 FemNaziBitch  Dec 12, 2014 6:44:55am

re: #109 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Those are some creepy dolls.

I”m trying to figure out how one would put a face on a corn husk without the modern convenience of a Sharpie marker.

114 FemNaziBitch  Dec 12, 2014 6:45:26am
115 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 12, 2014 6:46:53am

re: #113 FemNaziBitch

I”m trying to figure out how one would put a face on a corn husk without the modern convenience of a Sharpie marker.

Glue, beads and string, maybe?

116 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 12, 2014 6:48:06am

re: #110 FemNaziBitch

How is it now?

I need another cup of tea.

117 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 12, 2014 6:48:25am

re: #44 A Mom Anon

Only thing I can remember from Jr. High was getting to do a (typically jr high schoolish bad) interview with Chuck Mangione. This was between his hit for the Olympics “Feels So Good” and his album Children of Sanchez which I still have a soft spot for.

A fun afternoon, to be sure, but I’ve had a hell of a lot of life since then.

118 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 6:48:38am

re: #114 FemNaziBitch

I don’t know whether the historical Jesus justified torture, but the biblical one sho did while speaking of Hell.

119 FemNaziBitch  Dec 12, 2014 6:49:21am

Citigroup Wrote the Wall Street Giveaway Congress Just Snuck Into a Must-Pass Spending Bill

From what I remember of my Dodd-Frank/History of Banking/Derivitaves Study from a couple of years ago … . THIS LEGISLATION IS A BIG DEAL.

Major players can’t seem to respect that they are playing with OUR MONEY.

Somehow, the idea that it’s the private sector that is doing so and not the government (although one could argue the point of there not being much difference) somehow makes it ok in the eyes of the Whackos.

120 FemNaziBitch  Dec 12, 2014 6:51:09am

re: #118 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

I don’t know whether the historical Jesus justified torture, but the biblical one sho did while speaking of Hell.

Ah, well, there are those who keep confusing the concept of Man’s Law and God’s law being two separate things. They presume the authority to adjudicate for God here on Earth.

121 FemNaziBitch  Dec 12, 2014 6:52:42am
122 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 12, 2014 6:54:26am

re: #68 Targetpractice

I’d donate to that campaign just to watch his concession speech, though I imagine in true petulant fashion, he’d just refuse to admit he lost and threaten to sue his opponent for daring to run against him.

Some of us who live here in CA are laughing, but the laughter is rueful. Head inland thirty miles and you’re usually in Children of the Corn territory where the radio is AM talk and the bumper stickers read “Impeach.” This is the state that sent Rep. B1 Bob Dornan, Rep. Jerry Lewis and Rep. Daryl Issa to Congress. This is the state that gave you Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan.

123 A Mom Anon  Dec 12, 2014 6:54:55am

Alrighty then, I have to take The Grown Up Kid for a vocational rehab meeting in a bit to see about placement in their program. Keep those fingers crossed that they accept him and place him in a job close to home. God this process is taking forever. grrrrr.

124 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 12, 2014 6:55:33am

I never liked Creed (second only to Nickelback on my musical shitlist … ok, maybe Kenny G), but I wouldn’t wish this on anyone:
Creed Frontman Scott Stapp Threatened to Kill Obama: 911 Call

125 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 12, 2014 6:56:55am

re: #123 A Mom Anon

Alrighty then, I have to take The Grown Up Kid for a vocational rehab meeting in a bit to see about placement in their program. Keep those fingers crossed that they accept him and place him in a job close to home. God this process is taking forever. grrrrr.

Hoping for the best!

126 lawhawk  Dec 12, 2014 7:04:57am

re: #124 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Stapp’s got some serious mental health issues that need to be addressed. And aren’t. Doesn’t matter how rich you are, some people have undiagnosed mental health issues that affect them, their livelihood, and everyone around them.

Some will end up taking their own lives, or lives of other people.

And the government at all levels isn’t doing nearly enough to fund mental health services - whether it’s for returning service members or anyone else for that matter. The result of these failures to address mental health issues spills over to everything from homelessness, unemployment, and criminal acts. Doing more to address mental health issues (and social services in general) would help on all those fronts.

127 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 12, 2014 7:08:48am

re: #126 lawhawk

Stapp’s got some serious mental health issues that need to be addressed. And aren’t. Doesn’t matter how rich you are, some people have undiagnosed mental health issues that affect them, their livelihood, and everyone around them.

Some will end up taking their own lives, or lives of other people.

And the government at all levels isn’t doing nearly enough to fund mental health services - whether it’s for returning service members or anyone else for that matter. The result of these failures to address mental health issues spills over to everything from homelessness, unemployment, and criminal acts. Doing more to address mental health issues (and social services in general) would help on all those fronts.

As someone who’s struggled with depression over many years, I agree 1000X with everything you said here. I genuinely hope Stapp gets the help he needs.

128 FemNaziBitch  Dec 12, 2014 7:10:40am
129 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 12, 2014 7:11:19am

re:
#122

Some of us who live here in CA are laughing, but the laughter is rueful. Head inland thirty miles and you’re usually in Children of the Corn territory where the radio is AM talk and the bumper stickers read “Impeach.”

Yeah, lots of areas like that even in the best of states.

130 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 12, 2014 7:11:55am

re: #123 A Mom Anon

Alrighty then, I have to take The Grown Up Kid for a vocational rehab meeting in a bit to see about placement in their program. Keep those fingers crossed that they accept him and place him in a job close to home. God this process is taking forever. grrrrr.

Keeping you in my thoughts. It took over a year to get our son into a program and another year to get him into one that wasn’t a depressing, make-work scene. Try to keep your chin up. We doubted that our son would ever have a job or that he would ever learn to drive. He works for a grocery chain and he decided to learn to drive when he was 27. He’s an excellent driver and he’s in a union job with benefits. Parenting an autistic offers some interesting choices: I find myself somewhere between slightly crazy and unnaturally patient.

131 FemNaziBitch  Dec 12, 2014 7:13:42am

re: #126 lawhawk

Stapp’s got some serious mental health issues that need to be addressed. And aren’t. Doesn’t matter how rich you are, some people have undiagnosed mental health issues that affect them, their livelihood, and everyone around them.

Some will end up taking their own lives, or lives of other people.

And the government at all levels isn’t doing nearly enough to fund mental health services - whether it’s for returning service members or anyone else for that matter. The result of these failures to address mental health issues spills over to everything from homelessness, unemployment, and criminal acts. Doing more to address mental health issues (and social services in general) would help on all those fronts.

QFT

Breaking down taboos seems to be the most difficult part of this. In my ongoing attempt to contribute to this effort, I’m re-posting this video.


Neurobiology of Trauma - Dr. David Lisak

132 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 7:14:19am

BTW I guess this never happened either, all cooked up by those evil journalists!

wsj.com

WASHINGTON—The National Security Agency ended a program used to spy on German Chancellor Angela Merkel and a number of other world leaders after an internal Obama administration review started this summer revealed to the White House the existence of the operation, U.S. officials said.

Officials said the internal review turned up NSA monitoring of some 35 world leaders, in the U.S. government’s first public acknowledgment that it tapped the phones of world leaders. European leaders have joined international outrage over revelations of U.S. surveillance of Ms. Merkel’s phone and of NSA’s monitoring of telephone call data in France.

The White House cut off some monitoring programs after learning of them, including the one tracking Ms. Merkel and some other world leaders, a senior U.S. official said. Other programs have been slated for termination but haven’t been phased out completely yet, officials said.

[…]

Officials said the U.S. already has stopped collection efforts against Ms. Merkel and a number of other world leaders.

133 FemNaziBitch  Dec 12, 2014 7:18:01am

What was that I was saying about there being little difference between Wall Street and the Government playing with our money?

Weiss is currently an employee of the financial powerhouse Lazard, where he specializes in mergers and acquisitions, and from whom he’s set to receive a $20 million bonus if he takes the government job

134 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 7:18:38am

Frost is an idiot.

135 FemNaziBitch  Dec 12, 2014 7:19:39am

re: #134 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Frost is an idiot.

There is frost all over my grass right now.

136 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 12, 2014 7:21:13am

re: #129 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#122

Yeah, lots of areas like that even in the best of states.

Pennsylvania is essentially like that. Philadelphia and Pittsburgh as the liberal bastions on each end and lightly filled with conservatives in-between.

137 FemNaziBitch  Dec 12, 2014 7:22:37am

#IfIWasGod I would:

1-I would stay high all the time
2-set up different parts of my creation as reality TV shows and pop popcorn
3-weep

138 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 12, 2014 7:23:47am

re:
#25

Pennsylvania is essentially like that. Philadelphia and Pittsburgh as the liberal bastions on each end and lightly filled with conservatives in-between.

New Mexico, too. Went to grad school there. Along the highway between Santa Fe in the north and Las Cruces in the south, pretty mainstream place. To the underpopulated areas west and east, another story. Beautiful scenery, though.

139 FemNaziBitch  Dec 12, 2014 7:24:33am
140 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 12, 2014 7:24:37am

re: #136 Feline Fearless Leader

Pennsylvania is essentially like that. Philadelphia and Pittsburgh as the liberal bastions on each end and lightly filled with conservatives in-between.

Illinois is essentially the same - Chicago and the St. Louis ring and lots of red in between.

141 Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2014 7:26:06am

Guess who’s back?

In an interview with CNN’s Carol Costello, Patton lamented that the definition of rape has been so stretched that “it no longer is when a woman is violated at the point of a gun or knife.”

“We’re now talking about — or identifying as rape — what really is a clumsy hookup melodrama or a fumbled attempt at a kiss or a caress,” she said.

Costello asked Patton if she’d ever spoken to a rape victim and what she thought of the victim’s story.

“Well, I thought there’s rape, and then there’s rape,” the author responded.

Patton said the woman she spoke with said she was very drunk at the time of the incident and “regretted” it next morning.

“To me, that’s not a crime, that’s not rape,” she continued. “That’s a learning experience that has to do with making choices and taking responsibility for the choices you make.”

What other 1950s advice have you got to share with us, dear? “Lie back and think of England?” Yegods.

142 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 12, 2014 7:28:14am

re:140
re:136

Probably not much crime in those areas, quiet. Nice places if you don’t mind the political crazy.

143 Varek Raith  Dec 12, 2014 7:29:01am

re: #121 FemNaziBitch

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Win.

144 lawhawk  Dec 12, 2014 7:29:20am
145 FemNaziBitch  Dec 12, 2014 7:29:23am

Baba, is this really you in disguise?

146 FemNaziBitch  Dec 12, 2014 7:29:45am

re: #141 Targetpractice

Guess who’s back?

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What other 1950s advice have you got to share with us, dear? “Lie back and think of England?” Yegods.

I made a Pages Post already.

****grrrrr*****

147 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 12, 2014 7:30:33am

er:
#141

“it no longer is when a woman is violated at the point of a gun or knife.”

Oh, it’s only rape if the rapist uses a gun or knife.

//

148 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 12, 2014 7:31:35am

re: #141 Targetpractice

“To me, that’s not a crime, that’s not rape,” she continued. “That’s a learning experience that has to do with making choices and taking responsibility for the choices you make.”

Now I’m trying to figure out when I chose to live in a world with smug, sanctimonious assholes like Patton in it.

149 #FergusonFireside  Dec 12, 2014 7:31:43am

re: #87 wrenchwench

Never a big Bruce fan, I didn’t realize he wrote this Patty Griffin song.

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Video

Hey WW! How’s it going?

150 FemNaziBitch  Dec 12, 2014 7:32:34am
151 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 7:32:35am

And of course Schindler chimes in:

No, you doofus, nobody but you said it was fake. The prosecutor in question expressly denied saying or implying it was fake:

spiegel.de

Ranges Sprecher Marcus Köhler ergänzte auf Nachfrage des SPIEGEL, wie Range zu solch einer Darstellung komme: “Diese Aussage entspricht den bisherigen Beweisergebnissen und war mit keinerlei Wertungen verbunden. Im Gegenteil, die Nachfrage eines Journalisten während der Pressekonferenz, ob es sich bei dem Dokument um eine Fälschung handele, hat Generalbundesanwalt Range ausdrücklich verneint.”

152 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 12, 2014 7:33:09am

re: #142 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:140
re:136

Probably not much crime in those areas, quiet. Nice places if you don’t mind the political crazy.

Different sort is what I think, though I’ve never looked at the per capita crime rates for the various Pennsylvania counties. Some of the drug issues have creeped in, and my bet is that there is still a lot of “petty” crime - vandalism, etc. And possibly a lot of stuff that never makes it on the books, like poaching or minor property crimes.

153 ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2014 7:33:28am

I haz a big sad.

I was Junior class president and ran for student council president and I have never become a world class and award winning journalist.

I am pretty good at graphic arts and my training made me pretty good with tools like Photoshop.

So, I use my photoshop skillz to take out my revenge for not being a successful world class and award winning journalist on successful world class and award winning tools…like Charles C Johnson.

So be warned world. I will be exercising my revenge on this particular tool often.

Matter of fact, working up a nice one now. This ‘tool’ keeps giving me ideas, so I blame him like he blames everyone else.

154 GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 12, 2014 7:34:44am

We’ve all known since day 1, but ChuckyPoo confirms it himself. That he’s not normal.

Allow me to paraphrase. BREAKING BOMBSHELL! Chuck C. Johnson is PSYCHOTIC FLOOR SHITTER!

155 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 12, 2014 7:35:40am

re:
#152

Yeah, meth has been a problem in many places. And there are a lot of places outside the main metro areas that used to be bigger, have more people and jobs, but have lost the jobs, decayed.

156 Franklin  Dec 12, 2014 7:36:13am

re: #153 ObserverArt

I won a pie eating contest when I was 10. That has to count for something, right?

157 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 12, 2014 7:36:45am

re:
#154

I quote Dave Weigel and he never quotes me. What’s up with that?

158 FemNaziBitch  Dec 12, 2014 7:36:51am

re: #153 ObserverArt

I haz a big sad.

I was Junior class president and ran for student council president and I have never become a world class and award winning journalist.

I am pretty good at graphic arts and my training made me pretty good with tools like Photoshop.

So, I use my photoshop skillz to take out my revenge for not being a successful world class and award winning journalist on successful world class and award winning tools…like Charles C Johnson.

So be warned world. I will be exercising my revenge on this particular tool often.

Matter of fact, working up a nice one now. This ‘tool’ keeps giving me ideas, so I blame him like he blames everyone else.

Sometimes I think Photoshop is the ultimate tool of revenge!

159 Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2014 7:37:15am

re: #148 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Now I’m trying to figure out when I chose to live in a world with smug, sanctimonious assholes like Patton in it.

Of course, what most people who might nod along to her little missives miss is she’s an unabashed hypocrite. She tells girls to obsess over their looks and marry when they’re young and pretty, to focus only on homemaking in the best productive years, and then to consider a career later in life. Meanwhile, she waited to get married in order to focus on her career, got married later in life, and thus was financially stable enough to divorce the husband of her two sons and go back on the dating scene.

160 leftynyc  Dec 12, 2014 7:37:48am

re: #147 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

er:
#141

Oh, it’s only rape if the rapist uses a gun or knife.

//

Or if she also gets the crap beaten out of her.

161 Varek Raith  Dec 12, 2014 7:38:16am

re: #156 Franklin

I won a pie eating contest when I was 10. That has to count for something, right?

Congratulations, you are now an Award Winning Journalist, brought to you by Ronco.

162 FemNaziBitch  Dec 12, 2014 7:40:21am

re: #159 Targetpractice

Of course, what most people who might nod along to her little missives miss is she’s an unabashed hypocrite. She tells girls to obsess over their looks and marry when they’re young and pretty, to focus only on homemaking in the best productive years, and then to consider a career later in life. Meanwhile, she waited to get married in order to focus on her career, got married later in life, and thus was financially stable enough to divorce the husband of her two sons and go back on the dating scene.

This is how women who have issues with “rape”, often victims themselves, deal with it. The minimize rape, the blame the victim, the rationalize and justify ….

Sometimes, it is REALLY difficult to remember they are often speaking of themselves and their own experiences.

I am especially bad at this.

163 FemNaziBitch  Dec 12, 2014 7:40:51am

re: #161 Varek Raith

Congratulations, you are now an Award Winning Journalist, brought to you by Ronco.

Wait, if I order within the next 60 seconds can I win two awards?

164 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 12, 2014 7:41:06am

re: #160 leftynyc

Or if she also gets the crap beaten out of her.

Rape is sex without consent. It can involve force, restraint or threats, or simply involve a girl being too out of it to give consent at the time. That is a nuance that is lost on a lot of young men, and obviously, on not a small number of conservative women.

165 lawhawk  Dec 12, 2014 7:41:11am

The NYC subway is generally pretty safe, but this is unnerving. Subway train pulls into station, and doors open on the wrong side.

No injuries were reported, but given how crowded trains can be, it’s amazing no one fell out the wrong side (it’s a 4 foot drop, broken only by the electrified 3d rail and it’s guard).

166 Varek Raith  Dec 12, 2014 7:41:58am

re: #163 FemNaziBitch

Wait, if I order within the next 60 seconds can I win two awards?

Yes!
Just pay additional process and handling.

167 Franklin  Dec 12, 2014 7:42:12am

re: #161 Varek Raith

Congratulations, you are now an Award Winning Journalist, brought to you by Ronco.

I almost won a spelling bee when I was in 6th grade too. I had “oncology” for the win, but the proctor kept pronouncing it “uncology”, which is how I answered.

“I coulda had class. I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am, let’s face it. It was you, Charley”

168 FemNaziBitch  Dec 12, 2014 7:42:35am

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Rape is sex without consent. It can involve force, restraint or threats, or simply involve a girl being too out of it to give consent at the time. That is a nuance that is lost on a lot of young men, and obviously, on not a small number of conservative women.

Since the concept seems so difficult for Ms. Patton, here is the FBI definition of Rape:

“Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.”

Read more at littlegreenfootballs.com

169 FemNaziBitch  Dec 12, 2014 7:43:35am

“I’m tired and I’m have to go to bed”

or back to bed.

bbl

170 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 12, 2014 7:44:02am

re: #168 FemNaziBitch

Read more at littlegreenfootballs.com

And whether the girl was given a roofie or simply drank too much of her own accord is totally irrelevant to that definition.

171 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 12, 2014 7:47:58am

re: #145 FemNaziBitch

I can do it too:

172 Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2014 7:50:06am

re: #168 FemNaziBitch

Read more at littlegreenfootballs.com

Part of me wonders if she’s one of those Boomers who’s trying to make up for all the “free love” by becoming puritanical in her later years. Or perhaps her philosophy is a result of a marriage that soured because hubby decided he wanted a younger woman, leading her to conclude that if she’d just got married young and to a college guy, everything would have worked out better.

173 Timothy Watson  Dec 12, 2014 7:53:12am

Hitting refresh over and over causes professors to post grades faster…right?

174 Franklin  Dec 12, 2014 7:54:13am

re: #171 Higgs Boson’s Mate

175 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 12, 2014 7:54:22am

re: #173 Timothy Watson

Hitting refresh over and over causes professors to post grades faster…right?

Well known phenomenon. Several academic papers have been written about it.

176 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 12, 2014 7:54:37am

re: #173 Timothy Watson

Hitting refresh over and over causes professors to post grades faster…right?

just like hitting the elevator button repeatedly makes it come faster

177 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2014 7:54:59am

oh good grief:

178 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2014 7:54:59am

re: #140 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Illinois is essentially the same - Chicago and the St. Louis ring and lots of red in between.

All of Michigan that’s not metro Detroit and Ann Arbor.

179 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 12, 2014 7:56:13am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

just like hitting the elevator button repeatedly makes it come faster

The “Close Door” button inside the elevator car, however, is connected to nothing and used for psychological experiments.

180 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2014 7:56:18am

re: #145 FemNaziBitch

Baba, is this really you in disguise?

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181 NJDhockeyfan  Dec 12, 2014 7:56:57am

re: #32 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Some sad news: Veteran Fox News Correspondent Found Dead From Apparent Suicide

42. :(

Bummer. RIP…My heart goes out to anyone who feels the only answer is suicide.

182 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 12, 2014 7:57:45am

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fox’s Geraldo Rivera, the award winning journalist who discovered Al Capone’s secret underground vault.

183 leftynyc  Dec 12, 2014 7:57:55am

re: #165 lawhawk

The NYC subway is generally pretty safe, but this is unnerving. Subway train pulls into station, and doors open on the wrong side.

No injuries were reported, but given how crowded trains can be, it’s amazing no one fell out the wrong side (it’s a 4 foot drop, broken only by the electrified 3d rail and it’s guard).

I got chills from that story. I lean on the doors on the opposite side all the time.

184 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2014 7:58:17am
185 NJDhockeyfan  Dec 12, 2014 7:58:55am

This is his last tweet…

186 jaunte  Dec 12, 2014 8:00:23am

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Jerry Rivers” says there’s no racism here.

187 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 12, 2014 8:02:47am

re: #154 GlutenFreeJesus

Journolist Dave Weigel asked me for comment at 4 AM. You know, when normal people sleep

Correctly spelling “journalist” is an important first step toward becoming one.

188 Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2014 8:03:45am

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh good grief:

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I’ll say it again, the man’s head is as empty as Al Capone’s vault.

189 ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2014 8:04:22am

re: #178 The Vicious Babushka

All of Michigan that’s not metro Detroit and Ann Arbor.

I think all states are like this. Cities, especially those with large state colleges tend to have arts communities, larger gay populations, more thinkers in their media, larger social programs and the like.

I know Ohio is like that. Columbus and Cleveland and their large metro areas are pretty liberal and Democratic.

But then, there is Cincinnati.

/

190 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 8:05:03am

re: #187 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Correctly spelling “journalist” is an important first step toward becoming one.

He’s being ironic.

191 Timothy Watson  Dec 12, 2014 8:05:23am

re: #187 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Correctly spelling “journalist” is an important first step toward becoming one.

I believe that may have been intended as a pun, as a reference to Weigel’s participation on JournoList.

192 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2014 8:05:53am

re: #187 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Correctly spelling “journalist” is an important first step toward becoming one.

He’s using “journolist” as an insult.

en.wikipedia.org

193 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2014 8:09:26am

we had an “All Teams” meeting. There were over 200 employees, and maybe 5% were not white males.

194 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 12, 2014 8:09:43am

re: #190 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

re: #191 Timothy Watson

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

I see: he’s symbolically shitting on Weigel’s floor.

195 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 12, 2014 8:13:25am

re: #189 ObserverArt

I think all states are like this. Cities, especially those with large state colleges tend to have arts communities, larger gay populations, more thinkers in their media, larger social programs and the like.

I know Ohio is like that. Columbus and Cleveland and their large metro areas are pretty liberal and Democratic.

But then, there is Cincinnati.

/

Arizona has Flagstaff, Tucson & Sedona on one hand and tons of armed rednecks in pickup trucks in the rest of the state.

196 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2014 8:16:04am
197 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2014 8:16:05am

re: #193 The Vicious Babushka

we had an “All Teams” meeting. There were over 200 employees, and maybe 5% were not white males.

198 Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2014 8:17:23am
199 Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2014 8:19:23am

Justice Roberts unavailable for comment.

200 Timothy Watson  Dec 12, 2014 8:19:54am

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh good grief:

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I forget, weren’t conservatives attacking Lebron a couple weeks ago because he said he didn’t want his kids paying football because the dangers from concussions?

201 Dr. Matt  Dec 12, 2014 8:22:06am

Politico is now removing any negative comments about Chucky from their “Digital Darth Vader” story.

202 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2014 8:22:29am

It’s all fun & games until some 9-year-old shoots Santa==>
(For extra Derp, look at this idiot’s Twitter handle)

203 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 12, 2014 8:24:07am

re:
#191

I believe that may have been intended as a pun, as a reference to Weigel’s participation on JournoList.

Chuck c Johnson’s a funny guy……

/

204 b.d.  Dec 12, 2014 8:24:42am

re: #201 Dr. Matt

Politico is now removing any negative comments about Chucky from their “Digital Darth Vader” story.

so, all of them then.

205 Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2014 8:26:46am

The CRomnibus, which funds most of the government through the next year, prohibits the Health and Human Services Department from transferring funds from other sources to fund the program. The practical impact, one policy expert told TPM, is that HHS can therefore only use money brought into the program to make payouts, effectively making it revenue neutral.

“As far as anyone can tell, that’s what’s going on,” Timothy Jost, a health law professor at Washington and Lee University who is supportive of the law, told TPM. In theory, if the program doesn’t bring in enough money to make its payouts, that could mean insurers will have to — at the very least — wait a year before getting their money. In turn, that could have a negative impact on 2016 premiums if insurers have to take a loss in the meantime.

Not to worry though, we can be sure that the Senate will stand in the way of this…

I give up.

206 GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 12, 2014 8:26:56am

re: #182 Higgs Boson’s Mate

207 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 12, 2014 8:27:15am

re:
#202

Hey libs, Santa ‘s got a gun! Gun range offers family pictures with pistol-packing Kringle

Loves gunz and the Fair Tax. Wonder how much they pay the guy at Koch Industries who churns out these Twitter accounts?

208 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 8:27:28am

re: #201 Dr. Matt

Politico is now removing any negative comments about Chucky from their “Digital Darth Vader” story.

That’s Politico for you. Even in a no-brainer story about a pimple on the internet’s collective ass they had to elevate the same pimple to the “Darth Vader” status, thereby complimenting him.

209 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 12, 2014 8:28:49am

re:
#205

I give up.

Can Liberals go galt? Cuz I think I’m gonna do that.

210 Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 12, 2014 8:29:07am

re: #205 Targetpractice

Not to worry though, we can be sure that the Senate will stand in the way of this…

I give up.

This is how the Democrats are going to throw away the 2016 election. Convince through actions (lack of action/caving in) that they are no different than the GOP when it comes down to screwing over the average citizen.

211 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2014 8:29:12am

re: #207 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#202

Loves gunz and the Fair Tax. Wonder how much they pay the guy at Koch Industries who churns out these Twitter accounts?

Unpaid interns, or maybe interns who pay them for the privilege of having a jerb.

212 GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 12, 2014 8:29:25am

re: #202 The Vicious Babushka

From an online gun seller.

213 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 8:32:27am

Brent crude: 62.09$
Euro: 72 rubles.

214 #FergusonFireside  Dec 12, 2014 8:32:32am

re: #201 Dr. Matt

Politico is now removing any negative comments about Chucky from their “Digital Darth Vader” story.

I’m not seeing it.

215 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 8:32:38am

re: #213 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Just a few days ago it was 66/66.

216 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 8:33:22am

Just a few months ago it was ~48 RUB per EUR.

217 Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2014 8:34:28am

re: #210 Feline Fearless Leader

This is how the Democrats are going to throw away the 2016 election. Convince through actions (lack of action/caving in) that they are no different than the GOP when it comes down to screwing over the average citizen.

I can only conclude that the recent election has (again) left them scared of their own shadows. When Republicans tried this shit two years ago, trying to turn the bill to avoid the Fiscal Cliff into a GOP wish list under the assumption that Dems wouldn’t dare let the country go over the Cliff just to snub them, the bill ultimately fell apart because no Dem would support it and Boehner couldn’t find the votes amongst his own caucus to pass it. Likewise the President said he wouldn’t allow the government to be held hostage and Reid said there was no chance of passage.

Two years later? The White House and Reid left Pelosi hanging in the breeze, leaving her as the only voice of sanity in saying the government should not be kept open at the expense of giving the GOP everything they wanted short of castrating the President’s immigration EO.

218 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 12, 2014 8:34:54am

re: #210 Feline Fearless Leader

This is how the Democrats are going to throw away the 2016 election. Convince through actions (lack of action/caving in) that they are no different than the GOP when it comes down to screwing over the average citizen.

When it comes to the white middle class, there is almost no discernible difference, the only significant difference involves women, minorities and the working poor

219 Varek Raith  Dec 12, 2014 8:35:09am

re: #205 Targetpractice

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I give up.

Sigh….

220 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 12, 2014 8:36:16am

re: #205 Targetpractice

We must continue to vote for these Democrats because, because, because…

221 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 8:36:48am

re: #220 Higgs Boson’s Mate

We must continue to vote for these Democrats because, because, because…

SCOTUS.

222 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 12, 2014 8:36:56am

re: #216 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Just a few months ago it was ~48 RUB per EUR.

When I got to Russia in early1992, it was 120 per dollar, by the time I left at the end of 1993, it had gone up to over 6,000.

When it got to 7,000 the following year they just lopped off three zeroes and started again. How long until the cycle repeats itself?

223 nearly-headless smith25  Dec 12, 2014 8:37:12am

From the article:

“There is a special place in hell for you miserable parasites in the media who seek to exploit violence and hatred in order to sell advertisements,” Philadelphia Fraternal Order of Police Lodge No. 5 president John McNesby wrote in a letter to the editors of the Levittown-based paper.

Read more: nbcphiladelphia.com
Follow us: @nbcphiladelphia on Twitter | nbcphiladelphia on Facebook

“I was outraged that local newspaper would put such a message in the paper,” said Bensalem Police director of public safety Fred Harran.

Read more: nbcphiladelphia.com
Follow us: @nbcphiladelphia on Twitter | nbcphiladelphia on Facebook

Of course Mike Brown, Kajieme Powell, Tamir Rice, Eric Garner, Vonderritt Myers, could not be reached for comment.

224 Charles Johnson  Dec 12, 2014 8:37:37am
225 #FergusonFireside  Dec 12, 2014 8:39:30am

Heard this before.

226 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 12, 2014 8:39:57am

re: #221 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

SCOTUS.

That only works if we elect a Democrat who isn’t a triangulating corporatist.

227 Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2014 8:40:25am

re: #225 #FergusonFireside

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Heard this before.

Which of course means the DA will now conduct a months long grand jury, just for the political cover it will provide when he fails to bring charges.

228 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 8:41:52am

re: #222 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I think you might be misremembering the exact figures (though it’s to be expected considering how long ago it was).

The ruble fell in 1994 on what came to be known as the Black Tuesday from 2833 to 3926 for 1$ ru.wikipedia.org

So it was still considerably lower than 6000 before you left. A lesser version of the Black Tuesday happened in Sept. 1992 when dollar rose from 205,5 to 241 rubles.

229 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 8:43:24am

re: #225 #FergusonFireside

I think any examiner would have - it wasn’t an accident, etc. Pretty formal.

230 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 8:44:21am

re: #226 Higgs Boson’s Mate

That only works if we elect a Democrat who isn’t a triangulating corporatist.

Clinton was one, his nominations were still good.

231 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 12, 2014 8:44:52am

re: #228 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

I think you might be misremembering the exact figures (though it’s to be expected considering how long ago it was).

The ruble fell in 1994 on what came to be known as the Black Tuesday from 2833 to 3926 for 1$ ru.wikipedia.org

So it was still considerably lower than 6000 before you left. A lesser version of the Black Tuesday happened in Sept. 1992 when dollar rose from 205,5 to 241 rubles.

I do recall filling my gas tank for a total of about $4 US before the price (gasp) tripled overnight.

232 Lidane  Dec 12, 2014 8:45:28am

re: #193 The Vicious Babushka

we had an “All Teams” meeting. There were over 200 employees, and maybe 5% were not white males.

I loathe all teams meetings. They take forever. I just suffered through one on Wednesday.

233 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 12, 2014 8:46:28am

re: #220 Higgs Boson’s Mate

We must continue to vote for these Democrats because, because, because…

Because anything passed after January 4, 2015 would be worse? I assume that’s the WH’s thinking.

I find myself thinking back to one of the things Michelle Obama said in the 2008 campaign, that the Right tried to make hay out of, which is that Barack wasn’t going to give everybody anything, that we’d have to work hard for it.

Well, honestly, a lot of folks who voted for him didn’t listen and didn’t want to do that work, even something as small as voting. Or maybe he didn’t give them a pony, or they think Edward Snowden should be given a tickertape parade instead of threatened with prosecution, or some damned thing.

They didn’t care enough to VOTE, in 2010 or 2014, and so we end up with this. Obama said that all those who DIDN’T vote, he had also heard. It must be really hard to give a fuck for them. They get the government they deserve. If only they didn’t drag the rest of us along with their fucking apathy.

234 leftynyc  Dec 12, 2014 8:48:26am

I’m getting mighty sick of these religious freaks trying to blame the gays, women and atheists for every ill that hits this country:

rawstory.com

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) plans to kick off his presidential candidacy in January with a stadium-sized prayer rally in Baton Rouge.

Right Wing Watch reported that materials being distributed ahead of the rally blame LGBT acceptance and legal abortion for natural disasters like Hurricane Katrina and the devastating tornado system that leveled the town of Joplin, Missouri.

235 Mike Lamb  Dec 12, 2014 8:49:36am

re: #202 The Vicious Babushka

It’s all fun & games until some 9-year-old shoots Santa==>
(For extra Derp, look at this idiot’s Twitter handle)

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That totally shows me. Ba-zinga. Good on ya. Oh wait…I’d never go into a douche bag gun range like that so I give precisely zero fucks about it.

236 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 12, 2014 8:50:45am

re: #234 leftynyc

I’m getting mighty sick of these religious freaks trying to blame the gays, women and atheists for every ill that hits this country:

rawstory.com

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) plans to kick off his presidential candidacy in January with a stadium-sized prayer rally in Baton Rouge.

Right Wing Watch reported that materials being distributed ahead of the rally blame LGBT acceptance and legal abortion for natural disasters like Hurricane Katrina and the devastating tornado system that leveled the town of Joplin, Missouri.

Isn’t this the guy who said the Republicans had to stop being the Stupid Party?

Though, if you look at how successful they’ve been by being stupid and recalcitrant, maybe he decided stupid is the way to go.

237 leftynyc  Dec 12, 2014 8:50:52am

Isn’t this the woman the ginger freak photographed or wanted to photograph:

talkingpointsmemo.com

Rose Cochran, the wife of Sen. Thad Cochran (R-MS) died on Friday, Cochran spokesman Chris Gallegos confirmed to TPM.

Cochran was 73 according to the Associated Press. She died in a hospice facility.

238 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 8:53:00am

re: #236 Blind Frog Belly White

For them there’s stupid and “stupid”. Like torture and “torture”.

239 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 12, 2014 8:55:21am

re: #233 Blind Frog Belly White

Nicely put. I’m trying to hold on to those shreds of sympathy that remain. It’s become damned difficult to do that after the midterms. Never have I seen such a display of high stakes apathy both from the voters and from the politicians.

240 #FergusonFireside  Dec 12, 2014 9:00:16am
241 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 12, 2014 9:00:18am

re: #202 The Vicious Babushka

It’s all fun & games until some 9-year-old shoots Santa==>
(For extra Derp, look at this idiot’s Twitter handle)

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“Santa’s Little Helper” now comes with a laser sight and an extended magazine.

242 SteelPH  Dec 12, 2014 9:04:11am

re: #241 Higgs Boson’s Mate

“Santa’s Little Helper” now comes with a laser sight and an extended magazine.

And zero obligation to be remotely responsible with it.

243 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2014 9:04:39am

re: #240 #FergusonFireside

HURR HURR!!!! THAT WAS A DEMOCRAT!!!!1!!1!!!

244 Timothy Watson  Dec 12, 2014 9:05:44am

re: #241 Higgs Boson’s Mate

“Santa’s Little Helper” now comes with a laser sight and an extended magazine.

WHAT DOES THE SIMPSONS’ DOG HAVE TO DO WITH THIS?!?!?!?!

///

245 makeitstop  Dec 12, 2014 9:07:32am

If you’ve got a few minutes to spare, check out this song. I just heard it on the radio and I was absolutely floored. Modern slow-burn soul, with a very unusual accompanying video.

(Video starts in silence, some parts slightly NSFW.)

I don’t know who Paolo Nutini is, but…damn. This is what I believe they call a tour de force.

246 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 12, 2014 9:08:58am

re:
#234

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) plans to kick off his presidential candidacy in January with a stadium-sized prayer rally in Baton Rouge.

Right Wing Watch reported that materials being distributed ahead of the rally blame LGBT acceptance and legal abortion for natural disasters like Hurricane Katrina and the devastating tornado system that leveled the town of Joplin, Missouri.

OFFS

Didn’t Katrina happen before gay marriage passed anywhere?

247 leftynyc  Dec 12, 2014 9:09:56am

re: #246 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#234

OFFS

Didn’t Katrina happen before gay marriage passed anywhere?

You can’t possibly be expecting anything resembling sanity or truth coming from this.

248 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 12, 2014 9:10:56am

re:
#247

You can’t possibly be expecting anything resembling sanity or truth coming from this.

No, I know. Sometimes I just lose myself….

249 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 12, 2014 9:14:03am

From cnn.com:

A technical failure in London snarled air traffic, the UK-based global air traffic management company NATS says. The system has been restored, but delays persist.

Hurr hurr soshulized medicine we toldja!!!111

250 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 12, 2014 9:14:09am

re: #230 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Clinton was one, his nominations were still good.

Notorious RBG! Obama’s nominees have turned out well so far, too.

251 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Dec 12, 2014 9:15:04am

re: #234 leftynyc

rawstory.com

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) plans to kick off his presidential candidacy in January with a stadium-sized prayer rally in Baton Rouge.

Please proceed.

252 b.d.  Dec 12, 2014 9:15:05am

So Dudebro extraordinaire Jacob Appelbaum may have presented a forged document, claiming to be from Snowden’s cache, that accused the USA of spying on Merkel’s phone?

SHOCKED!

On Wednesday he [the German prosecutor] said however, “the document presented in public as proof of an actual tapping of the mobile phone is not an authentic surveillance order by the NSA. It does not come from the NSA database.

slate.com

253 Romantic Heretic  Dec 12, 2014 9:15:44am

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh good grief:

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Geraldo? How would you like your nose broken again?

254 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 12, 2014 9:16:02am

re: #246 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#234

OFFS

Didn’t Katrina happen before gay marriage passed anywhere?

Yes, but gay acceptance was already far too prevalent…

255 Ace-o-aces  Dec 12, 2014 9:17:53am
256 GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 12, 2014 9:21:07am

re: #244 Timothy Watson

No. That’s Santos L. Halper.

257 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 12, 2014 9:21:44am

re:
#234

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) plans to kick off his presidential candidacy in January with a stadium-sized prayer rally in Baton Rouge.

Rick Perry kicked off his 2012 campaign with a prayer-rally as well. Campaign didn’t go so well. But I guess this prayer-rally start up is the new thing among GOP hopefuls. Wonder if the prayers come before or after the candidate’s support of torture.

258 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 9:24:37am

re: #252 b.d.

So Dudebro extraordinaire Jacob Appelbaum may have presented a forged document, claiming to be from Snowden’s cache, that accused the USA of spying on Merkel’s phone?

SHOCKED!

slate.com

Not true, I debunked it above.

259 b.d.  Dec 12, 2014 9:27:42am

re: #258 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

slate.com

Not true, I debunked it above.

Sorry, I missed your comment:

Range never said or implied that the purported NSA doc is fake. He only pointed out that the published text is not the authentic document itself. The map is not the territory. Hence a text of the purported document - whether there was such a document or not - cannot lead to a prosecution.

260 Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2014 9:29:48am

How about you wear a shirt saying “I’m a rich fucker who has no need to worry about cop brutality,” Geraldo?

261 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 9:35:42am

To sum it up:

1. No, Harald Range neither called the document a fake, nor implied that it is. When asked during the press-conference whether he meant that the document was a fake, Range explicitly denied it:

spiegel.de

Ranges Sprecher Marcus Köhler ergänzte auf Nachfrage des SPIEGEL, wie Range zu solch einer Darstellung komme: “Diese Aussage entspricht den bisherigen Beweisergebnissen und war mit keinerlei Wertungen verbunden. Im Gegenteil, die Nachfrage eines Journalisten während der Pressekonferenz, ob es sich bei dem Dokument um eine Fälschung handele, hat Generalbundesanwalt Range ausdrücklich verneint.”

2, By saying what he did Range merely stated that the text provided by Der Spiegel is not the document itself, coming from the NSA database. It’s just a text produced on the basis of a purported document. He also pointed out that both Der Spiegel and the NSA refused further requests from his office:

Das Dokument, das in der Öffentlichkeit als Beleg für ein tatsächliches Abhören des Mobiltelefons angesehen worden ist, ist kein authentischer Fernmeldeaufklärungsauftrag der NSA. Es stammt nicht aus einer Datenbank der NSA. Vielmehr hat es ein SPIEGEL-Redakteur selbst hergestellt laut seinen Angaben auf der Grundlage eines in Augenschein genommenen Dokuments der NSA. Ich habe die Redakteure des SPIEGEL deshalb gebeten, Fragen zu dem Papier zu beantworten oder es uns zur Verfügung zu stellen. Dem ist das Nachrichtenmagazin unter Hinweis auf das Zeugnisverweigerungsrecht von Journalisten nicht nachgekommen. Auch die NSA selbst hat auf Anfrage des BND eine Stellungnahme zu dem Vorgang abgelehnt. Eine seriöse Bewertung der Echtheit und des Inhalts des Dokuments ist unter diesen Umständen nicht möglich.

The last sentence says: “A serious evaluation of the authenticity and content of the document is impossible in these circumstances”. I.e. he blames both Der Spiegel and the NSA without calling the document a fake, but also saying that (for legal purposes) it’s impossible to establish its authenticity.

3. As for there being no evidence, more specifically he claimed that there was no evidence for an indictment:

tagesschau.de

keinen zu einer Anklage führenden Beweis dafür, dass Verbindungsdaten erfasst oder ein Telefonat der Bundeskanzlerin abgehört wurden

I think we should all understand from recent events that the claims of there being no evidence for an indictment don’t necessarily amount to much. But he may be fully correct, because a leaked NSA file is hardly hard evidence in a German court, and NSA was probably skilled enough not to leave “technical” traces of the monitoring.

4. The top WH officials acknowledged that there were such programs, including one against Merkel, and claimed that they were stopped.

WASHINGTON—The National Security Agency ended a program used to spy on German Chancellor Angela Merkel and a number of other world leaders after an internal Obama administration review started this summer revealed to the White House the existence of the operation, U.S. officials said.

Officials said the internal review turned up NSA monitoring of some 35 world leaders, in the U.S. government’s first public acknowledgment that it tapped the phones of world leaders. European leaders have joined international outrage over revelations of U.S. surveillance of Ms. Merkel’s phone and of NSA’s monitoring of telephone call data in France.

The White House cut off some monitoring programs after learning of them, including the one tracking Ms. Merkel and some other world leaders, a senior U.S. official said. Other programs have been slated for termination but haven’t been phased out completely yet, officials said.

[…]

Officials said the U.S. already has stopped collection efforts against Ms. Merkel and a number of other world leaders.

wsj.com

As far as I’m concerned, this also supports (if not outright establishes) the document’s authenticity.

262 Franklin  Dec 12, 2014 9:36:29am

2013 Obama demands a clean CR

2014:

263 Franklin  Dec 12, 2014 9:36:54am

re: #260 Targetpractice

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How about you wear a shirt saying “I’m a rich fucker who has no need to worry about cop brutality,” Geraldo?

Right, like Geraldo wears shirts.

264 Eventual Carrion  Dec 12, 2014 9:37:33am

re: #232 Lidane

I loathe all teams meetings. They take forever. I just suffered through one on Wednesday.

We just had our corporate meeting this morning, 2 hours of boredom. But the company xmas party is tonight, so free food and drink on them. Kinda evens it out.

265 lawhawk  Dec 12, 2014 9:40:45am

re: #262 Franklin

Major difference between 2013 and 2014 - the fact that if there is a shutdown, the new Congress that takes power in January will be GOP majority in both House and Senate, with even more intent to destroy ACA and everything else the President wants to do. So, the option is to take the shitshow now, or wait for the even bigger mess next year.

266 Franklin  Dec 12, 2014 9:42:19am

re: #265 lawhawk

Major difference between 2013 and 2014 - the fact that if there is a shutdown, the new Congress that takes power in January will be GOP majority in both House and Senate, with even more intent to destroy ACA and everything else the President wants to do. So, the option is to take the shitshow now, or wait for the even bigger mess next year.

That makes sense.

267 Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2014 9:46:50am

re: #265 lawhawk

Major difference between 2013 and 2014 - the fact that if there is a shutdown, the new Congress that takes power in January will be GOP majority in both House and Senate, with even more intent to destroy ACA and everything else the President wants to do. So, the option is to take the shitshow now, or wait for the even bigger mess next year.

With the riders in this bill dealing with the ACA risk corridors and the Dodd-Frank swap ban, I see this more as the foot in the door. That future efforts will be about the proverbial “death of a thousand cuts,” sneaking these riders into “must-pass” bills while playing on the administration’s worry that standing against them will lead to further headaches.

268 lawhawk  Dec 12, 2014 9:55:06am

re: #267 Targetpractice

Absolutely true. The President, who was already on the defensive since 2012, is going to be on his heels going forward. And among the challenges is perhaps wishful thinking that the Supreme Court will uphold the ACA provisions that are currently being threatened by Halbig over the subsidies for people getting insurance through fed-run state exchanges.

269 Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2014 9:57:09am

re: #268 lawhawk

Absolutely true. The President, who was already on the defensive since 2012, is going to be on his heels going forward. And among the challenges is perhaps wishful thinking that the Supreme Court will uphold the ACA provisions that are currently being threatened by Halbig over the subsidies for people getting insurance through fed-run state exchanges.

I think what we’re seeing is a government on cruise control for the next two years. Republicans will spend every moment they can trying to pass shit they know will never become law, because they need something to agitate for/against starting next fall. And Democrats will, in return, do little to rock the boat as they operate under the assumption that they’ve got 2016 in the bag and anything that makes Republicans look like idiots is just gravy.

270 Charles Johnson  Dec 12, 2014 9:57:35am
271 Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2014 9:59:03am

re: #270 Charles Johnson

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272 lawhawk  Dec 12, 2014 10:01:48am

One of the reasons that Ferguson is a mess is that the local leaders have decided that the residents are a piggy bank, and therefore use ticketing and fines to help close the budget gaps. So, despite a disproportionate impact and racial profiling by the FPD, they’re going to increase the reliance on tickets to close the budget gap.

It’s yet another reason the DOJ investigation has to go beyond just the FPD or even the SLC County Police - the entire structure of government is rotten to the core.

273 lawhawk  Dec 12, 2014 10:02:11am

re: #270 Charles Johnson

Close the blast doors. Close the blast doors!

274 Ace-o-aces  Dec 12, 2014 10:02:36am

re: #270 Charles Johnson

275 ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2014 10:03:13am

So, the 2016 Republican nominations are going to be the God Wars™ where each and every candidate will explain why God likes him more than the others and no one with an actual God-given brain will like any of them.

Sounds like fun.

276 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 12, 2014 10:03:45am

re: #267 Targetpractice

With the riders in this bill dealing with the ACA risk corridors and the Dodd-Frank swap ban, I see this more as the foot in the door. That future efforts will be about the proverbial “death of a thousand cuts,” sneaking these riders into “must-pass” bills while playing on the administration’s worry that standing against them will lead to further headaches.

Exactly. If Obama signs this bill then the Republicans will tick two major items off of their agenda. The Republicans will proceed to roll up enough items in the next bill to give it must-pass status and insert more of their agenda items into it and it too will be signed. By the time 2016 rolls around Obama’s hallmark legislative achievements will have been thoroughly gutted.

277 Charles Johnson  Dec 12, 2014 10:03:46am
278 Franklin  Dec 12, 2014 10:04:16am
279 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2014 10:04:54am

Raising little bigots.

280 Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2014 10:05:36am

re: #279 The Vicious Babushka

Raising little bigots.

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And what did you tell them, Erick?

281 Decatur Deb  Dec 12, 2014 10:05:43am

re: #226 Higgs Boson’s Mate

That only works if we elect a Democrat biped who isn’t a triangulating corporatist.

Elizabeth Warren or Ralph Nader or Bernie Sanders? That’ll work.

282 Ace-o-aces  Dec 12, 2014 10:06:17am
283 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 12, 2014 10:08:12am

er:
#278

Now that I know who Chuck C. Johnson is, I can laugh at the epic trolling of said “award-winning journalist.”

I will Sue YOU!!!!111

284 Kragar  Dec 12, 2014 10:11:51am

What kind of crazy fucked up world do we live in where I end up on the same side as Dan Riehl?

285 makeitstop  Dec 12, 2014 10:12:06am

re: #278 Franklin

chuckcjohnson.info

‘Hosted by Geocities?’ That’s a joke, right?

286 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 12, 2014 10:14:47am

re:
#284

How can we even tell what’s riehl now?

287 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 10:15:46am

re: #284 Kragar

What kind of crazy fucked up world do we live in where I end up on the same side as Dan Riehl?

You can sleep soundly knowing that for Danny-boy it’s not a matter of principle but probably something petty, like envy for the center spot in the rwnj circus.

288 Franklin  Dec 12, 2014 10:16:00am
289 Timothy Watson  Dec 12, 2014 10:17:08am

re: #285 makeitstop

chuckcjohnson.info

‘Hosted by Geocities?’ That’s a joke, right?

Yeah, Geocities is defunct.

290 nearly-headless smith25  Dec 12, 2014 10:17:20am

re: #288 Franklin

All of these statements are not just “offhand” remarks. This is some ingrained shit in America.

291 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 12, 2014 10:21:02am

re: #281 Decatur Deb

Elizabeth Warren or Ralph Nader or Bernie Sanders? That’ll work.

I could go for Warren or Sanders, Nader not so much. Whomever our nominee, if elected that person will be facing a hubristic Republican Congress. We’re down to asserting that the possibility of nominations to SCOTUS makes it vital to elect a Democratic president no matter what. I’d counter that any SCOTUS nominee who could make it past this Congress wouldn’t be worth a fuck anyway because the Republicans will have no qualms about leaving a vacancy until they get someone to their liking.

292 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 10:24:17am

re: #291 Higgs Boson’s Mate

What’s with the purism? A flaming liberal may not pass, but a liberal centrist may.

293 b.d.  Dec 12, 2014 10:25:22am

re: #278 Franklin

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Ha! love the little smiling piece of poo at the bottom.

294 Decatur Deb  Dec 12, 2014 10:25:50am

re: #291 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I could go for Warren or Sanders, Nader not so much. Whomever our nominee, if elected that person will be facing a hubristic Republican Congress. We’re down to asserting that the possibility of nominations to SCOTUS makes it vital to elect a Democratic president no matter what. I’d counter that any SCOTUS nominee who could make it past this Congress wouldn’t be worth a fuck anyway because the Republicans will have no qualms about leaving a vacancy until they get someone to their liking.

Liberals can vote Democratic, Republican, or they can give up on voting and start stocking ammo like the RWNJs. Forget going to Canada/Scandinavia/Italy. The assholes we elect from Kansas are going to put Venice under water.

295 makeitstop  Dec 12, 2014 10:26:50am

re: #289 Timothy Watson

Yeah, Geocities is defunct.

Thought so. Still, I had to ask.

296 Ace-o-aces  Dec 12, 2014 10:31:34am
297 dholmes32  Dec 12, 2014 10:32:34am

re: #55 b.d.

Please, please, please, please.

:)

I can’t wait for that circus to go on tour.

Good. Then Romney will get to explain why his church hasn’t condemned its founder (Joseph Smith) for marrying at least one 14 year old (Helen Mar Kimball) in a polygamous marriage. *rubs hands* I can’t wait.

298 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 10:34:09am

This jc general person is either an asshole, or an idiot, or both.

299 Ace-o-aces  Dec 12, 2014 10:35:01am

Wait, so mister 158 IQ, “I will destroy the old media”, super new-media internet genius didn’t bother or think to register his own name as a website? Priceless.

300 SteelPH  Dec 12, 2014 10:35:08am

re: #298 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

This jc general person is either an asshole, or an idiot, or both.

Yes.

301 #FergusonFireside  Dec 12, 2014 10:36:10am

re: #298 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

This jc general person is either an asshole, or an idiot, or both.

[Embedded content]

He’s confused.

302 Kragar  Dec 12, 2014 10:36:51am

re: #298 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

This jc general person is either an asshole, or an idiot, or both.

[Embedded content]

Nailed it in one.

303 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 10:37:05am

re: #301 #FergusonFireside

He’s confused.

Seems like he isn’t. I looked at his timeline. He knows who the meme pertains to.

304 Higgs Boson's Mate  Dec 12, 2014 10:37:19am

re: #292 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

What’s with the purism? A flaming liberal may not pass, but a liberal centrist may.

I don’t have a pure bone in my body and I won’t even go into what I’ve done with the rest of it. Today’s liberal centrists, to me, fall to the right of Nixon and that’s just not that appetizing to me.

305 b.d.  Dec 12, 2014 10:37:52am

re: #298 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

This jc general person is either an asshole, or an idiot, or both.

[Embedded content]

JC General was a hoot during the days of dial up.

306 Ace-o-aces  Dec 12, 2014 10:39:04am

re: #301 #FergusonFireside

He’s confused.

His animus towards Charles seems mostly personal.

307 Kragar  Dec 12, 2014 10:39:11am

Ugh, process updates to the new system, so I get to open template after template and verify which check boxes are marked.

308 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 10:39:29am

re: #304 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I don’t have a pure bone in my body and I won’t even go into what I’ve done with the rest of it. Today’s liberal centrists, to me, fall to the right of Nixon and that’s just not that appetizing to me.

You know, as shitty as Justice Kennedy is, he is still better than Scalia part of the time. And Scalia is what you’ll be getting if your logic is followed through.

309 Ace-o-aces  Dec 12, 2014 10:42:53am
310 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 10:44:43am

re: #309 Ace-o-aces

And photoshops!

311 ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2014 10:47:05am

re: #99 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Did anyone ever shop a beard onto one of these? Maybe I missed it. Where’s ObserverArt? Gus? Anyone?

It needed more than just a beard to be The Real Chucky!

The Real Chucky - Be scared…very scared!

Be sure to click on it to get the full effect!

312 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 10:47:51am

Re: useless congressmen: I was fuming when Obama didn’t punish Lieberman for betrayal and let him be a head of some important committee. Of course, I was wrong and Obama was right, as Lieberman’s vote was one of the deciding ones for Obamacare.

313 #FergusonFireside  Dec 12, 2014 10:50:35am

re: #303 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

re: #306 Ace-o-aces

Stand corrected.

314 iossarian  Dec 12, 2014 10:54:58am

re: #312 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Re: useless congressmen: I was fuming when Obama didn’t punish Lieberman for betrayal and let him be a head of some important committee. Of course, I was wrong and Obama was right, as Lieberman’s vote was one of the deciding ones for Obamacare.

The question of whether we could do better than what we get is never resolved, is it?

Any of the D candidates is better than an R at the moment, and the Rs are worse to the point where a protest vote is too damaging IMHO.

315 iossarian  Dec 12, 2014 10:55:17am

Oh, and HAPPY FRIDAY everyone.

316 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 12, 2014 10:58:10am

re:
#296

Though West lost his congressional seat after just one term in 2012, he has floated the possibility of a 2016 presidential bid.

Well, with gas as cheap as it is now, they can drive a bigger clown car….

317 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 10:58:36am

re: #314 iossarian

As long as the electorate is as it is, that’s what you (and with you - the world) will be getting.

318 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 12, 2014 10:59:32am

re: #314 iossarian

The question of whether we could do better than what we get is never resolved, is it?

Any of the D candidates is better than an R at the moment, and the Rs are worse to the point where a protest vote is too damaging IMHO.

Right. The Dems are now where the GOP was in, say, 1970-75. But the GOP is where the Dems were in, say 1860-65.

So, the Dems may be the same as the Nixon GOP, but the GOP is getting to be the same as the Jefferson Davis Dems.

319 b.d.  Dec 12, 2014 10:59:43am

re: #311 ObserverArt

It needed more than just a beard to be The Real Chucky!

[Embedded content]

Be sure to click on it to get the full effect!

that is nice

320 Lidane  Dec 12, 2014 11:00:01am

Bryan Fischer, legal scholar:

321 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 12, 2014 11:01:04am

re:
#296

West, now head of the National Center for Policy Analysis, a right-wing think tank based in Texas

Hmm, NCPA is pretty well known, a significant name in the world of RWNJ think tanks. And someone selected Allen West to lead it. Kind of like if Rich Lowry was appointed to head the National Review. Oh wait….

322 Lidane  Dec 12, 2014 11:01:35am
323 Decatur Deb  Dec 12, 2014 11:02:14am

re: #317 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

As long as the electorate is as it is, that’s what you (and with you - the world) will be getting.

And the tools to improve the electorate are being systematically destroyed. In today’s news, not 50% of Alabama elementary school children meet reading and math standards.

al.com

324 iossarian  Dec 12, 2014 11:03:19am

re: #323 Decatur Deb

And the tools to improve the electorate are being systematically destroyed. In today’s news, not 50% of Alabama elementary school children meet reading and math standards.

al.com

My latest never-going-to-happen book idea is “Real Existing Democracy: The USA From 1945 to 2008”

325 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2014 11:03:56am

re: #299 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

Wait, so mister 158 IQ, “I will destroy the old media”, super new-media internet genius didn’t bother or think to register his own name as a website? Priceless.

Maybe he did but he forgot to renew it.

326 iossarian  Dec 12, 2014 11:04:12am

re: #324 iossarian

My latest never-going-to-happen book idea is “Real Existing Democracy: The USA From 1945 to 2008”

Oops - I guess it should be “Actually Existing Democracy”.

327 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 12, 2014 11:05:50am

re: #326 iossarian

Oops - I guess it should be “Actually Existing Democracy”.

How about “Actually EXITING Democracy; The United States from Citizens United On”?

328 Decatur Deb  Dec 12, 2014 11:06:01am

re: #324 iossarian

My latest never-going-to-happen book idea is “Real Existing Democracy: The USA From 1945 to 2008”

Not even all of those years in the Occupied Confederacy.

329 iossarian  Dec 12, 2014 11:07:30am

re: #328 Decatur Deb

Not even all of those years in the Occupied Confederacy.

Well, would you agree that they sort of had democracy imposed upon them for that period, at least at the macro level and in terms of large, visible institutions (e.g., universities)?

330 iossarian  Dec 12, 2014 11:09:14am

re: #327 Blind Frog Belly White

How about “Actually EXITING Democracy; The United States from Citizens United On”?

Neat, but I like the more direct parallel with the Soviet phrase. It’s perhaps fitting that we’re becoming the thing they always accused us of being.

331 Decatur Deb  Dec 12, 2014 11:09:30am

re: #329 iossarian

Well, would you agree that they sort of had democracy imposed upon them for that period, at least at the macro level and in terms of large, visible institutions (e.g., universities)?

Not from the ’40s to the late ’60s. Start your subtitle with the VRA/CRA/Brown v.

332 Dr. Matt  Dec 12, 2014 11:15:17am

re: #204 b.d.

so, all of them then.

Chucky’s fan club showed up to shovel praise for their Ginger Overlord.

333 Dr. Matt  Dec 12, 2014 11:16:19am

re: #311 ObserverArt

It needed more than just a beard to be The Real Chucky!

Image: The Real Chucky - Be scared…very scared!Be sure to click on it to get the full effect!

NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are talented.

As a request…..a Ginger Darth Vader (with hipster glasses) would be quite amusing. :)

334 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 11:17:33am

Really? Fucking really? He appeals do Bill Donohue?

335 b.d.  Dec 12, 2014 11:19:06am

re: #334 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Really? Fucking really? He appeals do Bill Donohue?

[Embedded content]

That guy should stick to dick pics

336 Charles Johnson  Dec 12, 2014 11:23:55am

Stalkers now showing up at the LGF Facebook page.

facebook.com

Delete. Ban. Rinse. Repeat.

337 ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2014 11:25:51am

re: #333 Dr. Matt

NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are talented.

As a request…..a Ginger Darth Vader (with hipster glasses) would be quite amusing. :)

Thanks.

I enjoy doing them.

I just wish Gus was still around and adding to the fun.

Come out of hiding Gus!

338 Charles Johnson  Dec 12, 2014 11:26:16am

re: #298 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

This jc general person is either an asshole, or an idiot, or both.

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He’s a major asshole, a left winger who’s just as hateful as the most hateful cretins on the right. He freaked out and went on a crusade against me because I dared to criticize the Mighty Greenwald.

339 makeitstop  Dec 12, 2014 11:27:44am

re: #333 Dr. Matt

NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are talented.

As a request…..a Ginger Darth Vader (with hipster glasses) would be quite amusing. :)

340 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 12, 2014 11:29:13am

re: #339 makeitstop

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The one suggestion I’d have would be to use a Dark Helmet pic instead.

341 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 11:29:26am

re: #339 makeitstop

Embedded Image

A piece of advice: the head should be smaller ;)

342 darthstar  Dec 12, 2014 11:30:43am

Wow…I didn’t expect that many Chuck followers would RT this.

343 makeitstop  Dec 12, 2014 11:32:43am

re: #340 Blind Frog Belly White

The one suggestion I’d have would be to use a Dark Helmet pic instead.

re: #341 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

A piece of advice: the head should be smaller ;)

I’ll put it together in a bit. Stupid work interferes.

344 Dr. Matt  Dec 12, 2014 11:33:17am

re: #339 makeitstop

hahahaha! That’s hilarious.

345 darthstar  Dec 12, 2014 11:36:36am

And apparently he noticed.

Gee…joke that a guy who poops on floors got held back in 7th grade and he blocks you. #Poophead
346 darthstar  Dec 12, 2014 11:37:21am

I’m so happy I muted his ass.

347 Charles Johnson  Dec 12, 2014 11:40:30am
348 b.d.  Dec 12, 2014 11:40:47am

…

349 Varek Raith  Dec 12, 2014 11:41:11am

Blocked me too.
Oh noes!
XD

350 b.d.  Dec 12, 2014 11:41:45am

I wonder which Twitter user has locked the most people?

351 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2014 11:41:52am

re: #347 Charles Johnson

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Well, they can use ObserverArt’s “Chucky” Photoshop.

352 The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2014 11:43:42am

re: #336 Charles Johnson

Stalkers now showing up at the LGF Facebook page.

facebook.com

Delete. Ban. Rinse. Repeat.

This is why I will never comment or like anything on Facebook that isn’t a photo of my grandbaby.

353 Charles Johnson  Dec 12, 2014 11:45:36am

re: #350 b.d.

I wonder which Twitter user has locked the most people?

That might be me, actually. Back when Andrew Breitbart was still consuming oxygen he used to routinely call out his army of followers to attack me, and I blocked hundreds, maybe thousands of them. I actually put together a keyboard macro to do all the block/mute actions with one keypress. There were times when I’d log into Twitter and find hundreds of right wing loons raving at me.

354 Charles Johnson  Dec 12, 2014 11:46:45am

re: #352 The Vicious Babushka

One good thing about a Facebook Page is that you have tools to delete comments and ban people.

355 b.d.  Dec 12, 2014 11:50:24am

Hahahahahahahaha

Bring it on

356 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 11:51:16am

re: #355 b.d.

Hahahahahahahaha

[Embedded content]

Bring it on

Good turn of events. Politico has money and legal means. Let the circus begin!

357 makeitstop  Dec 12, 2014 11:51:30am

Incidentally…

From the Republican party’s 2010 “Pledge to America”: “”We will end the practice of packaging unpopular bills with ‘must-pass’ legislation to circumvent the will of the American people.”

So much for that pledge.

358 iossarian  Dec 12, 2014 11:51:59am

re: #355 b.d.

Hahahahahahahaha

[Embedded content]

Bring it on

File this under “things that will never happen”, Brian.

Next!

359 Varek Raith  Dec 12, 2014 11:53:04am

re: #355 b.d.

Hahahahahahahaha

[Embedded content]

Bring it on

Rofl.

360 iossarian  Dec 12, 2014 11:54:17am

re: #357 makeitstop

Incidentally…

From the Republican party’s 2010 “Pledge to America”: “”We will end the practice of packaging unpopular bills with ‘must-pass’ legislation to circumvent the will of the American people.”

Intrepid and fearless DC* reporters ask Boehner about that one all the time.

* I hereby begin my pushback against the term “Beltway” because the use of that word reinforces the very smug self-satisfaction with one’s place in the established firmament it purportedly seeks to describe.

361 Charles Johnson  Dec 12, 2014 11:56:42am
362 Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 12, 2014 12:01:14pm

re: #355 b.d.

Hahahahahahahaha

[Embedded content]

Bring it on

I have one word which will bring this all to a grinding halt - or would, if it weren’t all just bullshit - Discovery.

363 Romantic Heretic  Dec 12, 2014 12:02:30pm

re: #288 Franklin

I’ll bet the person that said this is big on Law’norder!

By which they really mean order. The law they can take or leave as it suits them.

364 Varek Raith  Dec 12, 2014 12:04:37pm

re: #362 Blind Frog Belly White

I have one word which will bring this all to a grinding halt - or would, if it weren’t all just bullshit - Discovery.

Not enough popcorn in the world for that fun show.
:(

365 Mattand  Dec 12, 2014 12:05:59pm

re: #355 b.d.

Hahahahahahahaha

[Embedded content]

Bring it on

Nice to see Lionel Hutz is still practicing law.

“Don’t worry Mr. Johnson! We’re going to hit them with a lineup of surprise witnesses, each more surprising than the last!”

366 Lidane  Dec 12, 2014 12:06:05pm

re: #355 b.d.

367 EPR-radar  Dec 12, 2014 12:07:22pm

re: #363 Romantic Heretic

I’ll bet the person that said this is big on Law’norder!

By which they really mean order. The law they can take or leave as it suits them.

Furthermore, the ‘order’ that RWNJs have in mind is usually the order of a police state, where jackbooted thugs keep ‘the others’ in their proper place.

The pre-fascist tendencies of the US right are getting more and more obvious.

368 Stephen T.  Dec 12, 2014 12:08:29pm

Following Matt Fraction’s lead, I’m no longer on Twitter.

369 lawhawk  Dec 12, 2014 12:09:46pm

re: #322 Lidane

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The group should never have gotten the money in the first place. They were using it for purely religious purposes. And once they got a commitment for the money from the state with a promise that they wouldn’t discriminate in their hiring practices, they promptly turned around and began discriminating in their hiring practices.

So the state revoked the money.

The kicker is that the group claims that they’ve got the money to make the project work.

So, in other words, they don’t need taxpayer money, but are taking the handout because they want to force their religious views on everyone else, and are now throwing a tantrum because their behavior got called out.

The inevitable lawsuits filed should result in Ken Ham’s group losing, with costs paid back to the state, but this is KY, so who knows what they’ll end up doing.

370 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 12, 2014 12:10:38pm

re: #352 The Vicious Babushka

This is why I will never comment or like anything on Facebook that isn’t a photo of my grandbaby.

Finally “liked” the LGF fb Page just now. See the little fb button every day on here but just now noticed it.

371 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 12:10:58pm

re: #368 Stephen T.

Following Matt Fraction’s lead, I’m no longer on Twitter.

Understandable reaction. But: Twitter ain’t going anywhere and leaving it means leaving it to the bad guys. Which is what they crave.

372 Charles Johnson  Dec 12, 2014 12:11:33pm
373 Kragar  Dec 12, 2014 12:11:48pm

re: #366 Lidane

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It was too big to load, but here:

374 Varek Raith  Dec 12, 2014 12:12:30pm

re: #372 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Most amusing.

375 lawhawk  Dec 12, 2014 12:12:40pm

re: #353 Charles Johnson

That might be me, actually. Back when Andrew Breitbart was still consuming oxygen he used to routinely call out his army of followers to attack me, and I blocked hundreds, maybe thousands of them. I actually put together a keyboard macro to do all the block/mute actions with one keypress. There were times when I’d log into Twitter and find hundreds of right wing loons raving at me.

But you’re completely and totally irrelevant. And have been for years. Or so they rave, when they’re not ranting that you’re behind every conceivable action (whether it’s the twitter gulag or anything else that their peyote and mescaline induced hallucinations can produce).

376 Kragar  Dec 12, 2014 12:14:42pm
377 Stephen T.  Dec 12, 2014 12:17:09pm

re: #371 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Understandable reaction. But: Twitter ain’t going anywhere and leaving it means leaving it to the bad guys. Which is what they crave.

I don’t have to read what those bad guys write, so leaving it to the bad guys is fine with me.

378 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 12:17:23pm

re: #376 Kragar

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LIES! Chuck can produce much more than “1 cup”.

379 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 12:18:17pm

re: #377 Stephen T.

I don’t have to read what those bad guys write, so leaving it to the bad guys is fine with me.

You don’t, but it’s already a “force” in itself, whether we like it or not.

380 Stephen T.  Dec 12, 2014 12:18:54pm

re: #379 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

You don’t, but it’s already a “force” in itself, whether we like it or not.

It’s a “force” with no further influence on me.

381 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 12:19:40pm

Political solipsism.

382 lawhawk  Dec 12, 2014 12:20:05pm

The website blow-me.org is registered to Rep. Blake Farenthold (R-TX), BuzzFeed reports. I just checked a whois lookup, and yup, that’s who it says has the site registered to his name.

*snicker*

The more surprising thing - Chuck C Johnson has nothing to do with it. So far.

383 De Kolta Chair  Dec 12, 2014 12:24:04pm

“I love knowledge, I love learning new things.”

— Michele Bachmann (calling herself “Joe Normal”) interviewed on npr’s The Takeaway today

384 b.d.  Dec 12, 2014 12:26:09pm

I’m pronouncing 2014 as the end of the Snowden Dudebro era

The narrative arc of Merkel’s cell phone tap, from widely accepted truth to possibly debunked misapprehension, speaks to a larger problem with the recent NSA leaks. The problem was always that the documents were vague and complicated and left a lot of room for interpretation. The documents were complicated and interpreting them was not always easy. The US government, unsurprisingly, refused to help. And Snowden, for all his idealism and ethics, has been an imperfect interpreter of those documents himself, as have his allies. That has meant that sometimes “revelations” about NSA programs like the tap on Merkel’s phone turn out to be wrong, or turn out to be different from how they were first described.

vox.com

385 iossarian  Dec 12, 2014 12:26:42pm

re: #382 lawhawk

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The website blow-me.org is registered to Rep. Blake Farenthold (R-TX), BuzzFeed reports. I just checked a whois lookup, and yup, that’s who it says has the site registered to his name.

*snicker*

The more surprising thing - Chuck C Johnson has nothing to do with it. So far.

Maybe he’s a Victorian urchin. “Well strewth, blow me down with a feather, gorblimey etc.”

Innocent times.

386 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 12:27:27pm

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

387 Kragar  Dec 12, 2014 12:28:50pm

re: #386 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

¯_(ツ)_/¯

So, you’re a sorcerer?

You guys tie him to a stake. I’ll get the flamethrower.

388 BeachDem  Dec 12, 2014 12:30:41pm

re: #347 Charles Johnson

I would think that any photographer who took such a hideous photo (not just the subject matter, but it’s a really poor photograph) would hide in shame, rather than announce it to the world.

389 William Barnett-Lewis  Dec 12, 2014 12:31:34pm

re: #355 b.d.

Hahahahahahahaha

[Embedded content]

Bring it on

His attorney is either incompetent, intending to grift him or both.

Or a figment of UpChuck’s fevered imagination… ;)

390 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Dec 12, 2014 12:31:58pm

re: #384 b.d.

Except of course the allegations turned out to be true.

wsj.com
littlegreenfootballs.com

That is, aside from the other bullshit in the Vox article, like that Obama allegedly denied all wiretapping of Merkel (he only promised she is not being wiretapped and will not be wiretapped).

I’m amazed at the propensity of various media to run with a half-baked story based on a misunderstood event. Not.

391 b.d.  Dec 12, 2014 12:32:53pm

WHEN I PUBLISH LIES OR HAVE SPELLING ERRORS THEY ARE REALLY JOKES OR TRAPS

392 Kragar  Dec 12, 2014 12:34:28pm

re: #389 William Barnett-Lewis

His attorney is either incompetent, intending to grift him or both.

Or a figment of UpChuck’s fevered imagination… ;)

Chuck’s Lawyer:

393 Franklin  Dec 12, 2014 12:34:33pm

re: #391 b.d.

WHEN I PUBLISH LIES OR HAVE SPELLING ERRORS THEY ARE REALLY JOKES OR TRAPS

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Obligatory Tarp Reference

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