King of Smears Chuck Johnson Claims Blurry Google Earth Image Proves NAACP Bomb Was a Hoax

Says NAACP hoodwinked police, media, eyewitnesses, ATF and FBI
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Using the very latest in forensic science — Google Earth — blogger Charles C. “Chuck” Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) claims a blurry image completely disproves reports of a bombing at the NAACP offices in Colorado Springs.

It never happened, he says, and he further suggests that the NAACP is deliberately lying, just because he knows stuff.

He ran this image on his website Gotnews yesterday. It’s a Google Earth image from September 2014.

He claims that this dark, semicircular smudge (L) near the corner of the building is the same as this one (below), which has been in real news sites all over the Internet, not to mention TV:

Denver Post photograph of damage to building

Taking the suggestion of one of his own commenters, I used Google Street View to image the same portion of the building. This is a screencap.

Northeast corner of building housing NAACP offices

Here we can see the same semicircular smudge near the northeast corner of the building that’s in Johnson’s lame Google Earth image. Both are from September 2014.

Here’s a blow-up of the smudge, from my screencap.

If we examine these images dispassionately, there are some inconsistencies. First, the shapes of the smudges from the bombing attempt and the Google photos are not quite the same. In the Denver Post image, there is a semicircular smudge, but just to the right of it is another, smaller smudge. It is not visible in Johnson’s Google Earth image, and the tree in my Google Street View obscures that part of the building.

Further, the Post’s image seems to show the smudges are further from the corner of the building than either Google image.

If we only had these images as evidence, these discrepancies would not be conclusive in any way, I grant. But there is other evidence, which Johnson conveniently ignores in order to support his “no crime here, move along” agenda.

From the Denver Post:

An improvised explosive device was detonated against the exterior wall of a building housing the Colorado Springs chapter of the NAACP on Tuesday, officials said.

The explosion knocked items off the office walls but no one was injured.

Agents from the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives went to the scene after the blast to gather evidence and place markers.

The FBI said that a gasoline can was placed next to the device but the contents did not ignite.

According to the the FBI, officials are seeking a “potential person of interest,” described as a balding white male, about 40 years old.

So, what other evidence is there, CSI fans?

  • A loud noise, reported by several people in the area and inside the building
  • Objects knocked off the interior walls
  • A gas can, recovered by police
  • An incendiary device of some kind, recovered by police
  • Eyewitness accounts
  • A suspect

In my book, all of this evidence points to a clear attempt to set off a bomb of some kind outside the building. Trying to use blurry Google images to prove there it was all faked defies all common sense and forensic science.

Besides, where was Johnson when he posted this hardhitting BREAKING, EXCLUSIVE scoop? In fucking Fresno, California. This is a guy who posted that the DENVER police said there was no bombing, that the DENVER police said it was no big deal.

Yo, moron, Colorado Springs is not Denver! It’s 70 miles away. Different cities, like Fresno and Sacramento, only better.

Then, he suggests the NAACP faked the whole incident, and insinuates an ex-con employee of the organization might have had something to do with it.

Slimeball.

Given the choice between trusting “Award Winning Journalist” Chuck Johnson and the combined expertise of the C. Springs police, the FBI and the ATF, I’ll go with the experts. They at least know where the fuck Colorado Springs is.

And whether North Korea hacked Sony, and Virginia Roberts stood next to Prince Andrew in 2001.

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401 comments
1 PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2015 3:18:15pm

Well researched. Congrats on the promotion. :)

2 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 10, 2015 3:18:49pm

After fighting the flu for 2 days, and most of today lying in bed coughing up lung cookies, I find this. I think I’m going back to bed.

RBS

3 b.d.  Jan 10, 2015 3:20:37pm

I can’t wait for the GoatNews exposé of the face on Mars.

CCJ is a racist and misogynist pos. Look at the flavor of his Twitter crowd, it certainly has changed and not towards the better.

4 Dark_Falcon  Jan 10, 2015 3:20:38pm

Is that a bell I hear ringing? Because WheatDogg just schooled Chuckles.

5 b.d.  Jan 10, 2015 3:22:16pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

Is that a bell I hear ringing? Because WheatDogg just schooled Chuckles.

Yep, I predict a reset on the lawsuit threat clock.

6 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 3:22:45pm

re: #2 RealityBasedSteve

After fighting the flu for 2 days, and most of today lying in bed coughing up lung cookies, I find this. I think I’m going back to bed.

RBS

Rest, rest, rest and lots of fluids! Get well soon. ; )

7 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 3:23:22pm
He claims that this dark, semicircular smudge near the corner of the building is not the same as this one, which has been in real news sites all over the Internet, not to mention TV.

You probably meant to write “the same”.

8 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 3:23:24pm

Chuck who?

9 b.d.  Jan 10, 2015 3:24:01pm

re: #2 RealityBasedSteve

Hope you get better soon RBS, the flu is no small deal.

10 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 10, 2015 3:27:55pm

re: #2 RealityBasedSteve

Get well soon.

11 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 3:30:50pm

Some (ahem) twitterjerks are going to be very surprised when an arrest is made in this case and a prosecution secured.

This is homemade domestic terrorism, plain and simple—just an abject failure on the part of this particular perp.

12 The War TARDIS  Jan 10, 2015 3:32:31pm

Hey, what is the address for that building?

It looks sorta familiar.

13 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 3:34:50pm

Idiots and poor babies.

Indiana Couple Arrested for Filming Baby Playing With Handgun

nbcnews.com

14 goddamnedfrank  Jan 10, 2015 3:35:13pm

The mark on the right looks exactly like damage from a small incendiary or explosive with very low brisance, probably black or smokeless powder that was poorly constrained and unable to develop enough pressure to create a decent shock wave. The radiating pattern and what seem to resemble scattered particle impacts from whatever the deflagrant was wrapped in, leaving partially burned material. The older mark on the left is something else, like a bunch of vertical scratch marks filled with dirt.

The two marks were definitely made by two different events, that much seems certain.

Didn’t they find a gas can nearby? If so the “bomb” seems like it was just designed to trigger a fire, but failed. In any event local law enforcement or the FBI can test for residue and figure out what made the mark on the right, so this shouldn’t be a mystery for long.

15 Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2015 3:36:00pm

re: #7 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Corrected that, thanks, since wheat’s on the other side of the world.

16 goddamnedfrank  Jan 10, 2015 3:36:35pm

re: #12 The War TARDIS

Hey, what is the address for that building?

It looks sorta familiar.

603 South El Paso St.

17 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 3:37:35pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

Hopefully, they’ll find fingerprints on the can, too.

18 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 3:38:06pm

After looking at the video reports, it is clear that it’s not the big black mark that is being reported as the explosion char, but the mark on the right.

thedenverchannel.com

The big black mark was indeed there in September, but it is irrelevant. Another dud from Chuck.

19 goddamnedfrank  Jan 10, 2015 3:39:46pm

Chuck should check on those pixels.

20 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 3:40:15pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

Chuck should check on those pixels.

Chuck should just disappear, given the way he’s embarrassing himself.

21 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 3:42:46pm

I’m very familiar with this m.o. after debating Holocaust deniers (esp. about the photos).

22 goddamnedfrank  Jan 10, 2015 3:43:14pm

FYI Langdale originally found the mark on Stree View, then Cardillo blogged it crediting him, then CCJ reported it but refused to credit Langdale because they’ve been fighting.

Also, Langdale apparently didn’t understand that “Off the Wall” was Vans’ trademark.

23 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 3:45:14pm

re: #22 goddamnedfrank

So Chuck is a thief too.

24 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2015 3:45:24pm

???

25 Dark_Falcon  Jan 10, 2015 3:47:16pm

The WeaponsMan blogs shows its favorite Charlie Hebdo cartoon. This one is after a incident in which the Egyptian army killed a large number of Muslim Brotherhood members in 2013:

Image: the-koran-is-shit.jpg

The words in the pink box translate as: “Massacre in Egypt”

The other two sentences translate as: “The Koran, it’s for shit! It can’t stop bullets.”

Frankly, I’ve got mixed feelings about this one. While I feel no sadness at the demise of the Islamists of the Brotherhood and I understand the point CH was trying to make, I still don’t think gloating over their deaths is nasty and wrong.

26 Jenner7  Jan 10, 2015 3:48:44pm

Oh boy. Started watching The Amazing Spiderman and was so confused at the beginning. Just realized I am watching The Amazing Spiderman 2.

DERP.

27 BlueGrl21  Jan 10, 2015 3:48:53pm

Just watched Kentucky beat Texas A&M in a great basketball game. Great road trip for that game.

Notice, I am giving Chuck C. Me Make an Ass of Myself no notice.

28 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 3:49:29pm

Oh shit. Hope it’s just a rumor.

Editor’s note: We’re seeing reports that WestJet flight 2154 from Vancouver, British Columbia, to Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, has signaled, via transponder code transmissions, that it may possibly be hijacked. It’s important to note that the reports have not been confirmed. We are looking for additional information. - Jimmy
end of note

29 goddamnedfrank  Jan 10, 2015 3:49:35pm

The mindset that thinks there might have been some significance to some dude wearing an Vans “Off the Wall” t-shirt in front of the building just as the Google Street View car rolled by some three and a half months before the incident is kind of hilarious.

I mean, I think we all have some convoluted thoughts pop into our heads now and then, but before you actually give voice to that shit you gotta step back and ask yourself, exactly how fucking retarded is this?

30 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2015 3:50:28pm

re: #27 BlueGrl21

Just watched Kentucky beat Texas A&M in a great basketball game. Great road trip for that game.

Notice, I am giving Chuck C. Me Make an Ass of Myself no notice.

Big Blue Nation Kentucky Wildcats are now 15-0.
woot!

31 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2015 3:54:55pm
32 Dark_Falcon  Jan 10, 2015 3:55:00pm

re: #12 The War TARDIS

You will likely want to read this Jane’s 360 article. It’s a good summary of what has been going on in Libya and what is likely to happen, though it sells Gen. Haftir’s forces short IMO.

It also contains an interesting development: Earlier this month Gen. Haftir’s Libyan Air Force received 4 Su-27 ‘Flanker’s. The Libyan Air Force has never operated this type of fighter before now and its not known from whence they came. Most likely the Gulf States funded a purchase from Russia or Ukraine. Both have been refurbishing stored Su-27s lately, and either would make that kind of sale for enough hard currency.

33 goddamnedfrank  Jan 10, 2015 3:55:16pm

re: #23 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

So Chuck is a thief too.

Two unstable individuals locked in a virtual slap fight.

I expect this problem to pop up repeatedly with CCJ, his decision to crowd source scoops by data mining Twitter crazies is paying huge dividends in roflmao.

34 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 3:55:17pm

Whew.

35 BlueGrl21  Jan 10, 2015 3:55:45pm

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

Big Blue Nation Kentucky Wildcats are now 15-0.
woot!

I struggle. Not a big Kentucky fan but my husband coached a couple of the players and they’re my own. So, I know if they do well the team does well so I’m a fan by proxy. :)

A&M played their asses off. Was one of the best games I’ve ever been at.

36 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 3:56:39pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Canadians will not be deterred from baking in the sun. : )

37 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 4:03:28pm

An oldie via PZ:

Why I Do Not Believe In Modern Science
[…]
However, I think doctors have overstepped their bounds (especially in obstetrics, an issue I’ll be discussing more in a few weeks). They have dogmatic beliefs in drugs, vaccines, and interventions. They have overly simplistic explanations for the way the human body works, and they don’t look for reasons WHY or for underlying causes. They only observe and assume. I also think that the scientific method is rarely used anymore. Researchers start out with a question, and they know what answer they would like or what they expect to see. Research is conducted in such a way as to provide the expected answer most of the time. This is then called peer-reviewed research and is published in medical journals, and is the foundation for “evidence-based medicine,” which I entirely reject. Using these two phrases, “peer-reviewed medical journals” and “evidence-based medicine,” dogmatic scientists try to make people like me look like we are stark raving lunatics with no knowledge or brain function whatsoever. It’s rude, and it’s wrong.

modernalternativemama. com/blog/2009/11/4/rejecting-modern-science.html

Yes, “Mama”, you’re a raving braindead lunatic.

38 goddamnedfrank  Jan 10, 2015 4:03:57pm

re: #20 Justanotherhuman

Chuck should just disappear, given the way he’s embarrassing himself.

I think he’s mostly incapable of feeling embarrassment. He has a lot of antisocial personality traits, the lack of observed guilt, shame or empathy prominent among them.

39 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 4:06:24pm

re: #37 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Too bad she can’t travel back in time to the medieval period…

40 jaunte  Jan 10, 2015 4:07:08pm

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

I think he’s mostly incapable of feeling embarrassment.

If he had any talents at all it would be a formidable combination.

41 thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2015 4:07:19pm

re: #37 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

An oldie via PZ:

modernalternativemama. com/blog/2009/11/4/rejecting-modern-science.html

Yes, “Mama”, you’re a raving braindead lunatic.

“reasons WHY or … underlying causes”. That phrase is characteristic of physics crackpots, too. Sometimes, there is no “why”, the body just does.

42 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 4:07:47pm

re: #37 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

There’s more, now from a “Papa”:

glad-you-asked.blogspot.com

but i wanna declare, uh, that i am a geocentrist. and uh, what a geocentrist is, is someone who believes that the earth is the center of the universe and does not move. lemmee say that again. the earth does not move, it does not rotate, it does not revolve, it does not, uh, go around the sun and it does not wobble. the bible says the earth cannot be moved. and, uh, that’s what i’m goin’ with.

and, y’know, when it comes to copernicus, galileo, uh, kepler, uh, carl sagan and einstein, all of ‘em are flim-fam— flam artists. i believe they’re all con artists and they’re basically in a satanic deception that put forth satan’s very, very first blue-ribbon lie. y’know — well, uh, you could go all the way back to the garden of eden, so i wouldn’t say it’s his first, but, uh, satan’s blue-ribbon lie, at least one of them, is that the, uh, earth moves around the sun. okay? that absolutely is not true and i believe it with all my heart.

43 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 4:08:45pm

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

I think he’s mostly incapable of feeling embarrassment. He has a lot of antisocial personality traits, the lack of observed guilt, shame or empathy prominent among them.

True, more than likely. Hell’s bells, I still feel embarrassment over stuff I did decades ago if I think about it too much. : )

44 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 4:09:56pm

re: #42 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

And the earth is flat, to boot.

45 OhNoZombies!  Jan 10, 2015 4:10:33pm

re: #37 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

re: #42 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I don’t know whether to laugh or to cry.
Damn.

46 thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2015 4:10:38pm

re: #44 Justanotherhuman

And the earth is flat, to boot.

I’ve always wondered how in the hell people who believe in a flat Earth explain being able to fly/sail all the way around it. Someone tried explaining the crazy to me once, but it just went way over my head.

47 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2015 4:11:19pm

re: #43 Justanotherhuman

True, more than likely. Hell’s bells, I still feel embarrassment over stuff I did decades ago if I think about it too much. : )

I feel embarrassed about stuff from last week…

48 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 4:12:13pm

re: #44 Justanotherhuman

And the earth is flat, to boot.

One could prove that from the Bible, if one were so inclined. Of course, flat-earthers are rejected by geocentrists as kooks, because flat-earthers read the Bible wrong. And the geocentrists are rejected by YECs because they read the Bible wrong. And the YECs are rejected by OECs because they read the Bible wrong. And OECs are rejected by theistic evolutionists because they read the Bible wrong…

49 goddamnedfrank  Jan 10, 2015 4:12:25pm

BTW the “Off the Wall” trademark goes back to 1984. Maybe it’s because I grew up on the West Coast where skateboard culture was king, but it kind of surprised me that there are actually people who don’t immediately recognize it.

50 The War TARDIS  Jan 10, 2015 4:12:43pm

re: #32 Dark_Falcon

Since Ansar al-Sharia earlier pledged loyalty to ISIS, that means the Libyan Branch of the Muslim Brotherhood is now directly colluding with ISIS.

Considering how close this is to Europe, we may need to mull new steps. I would hope we can now ban the Muslim Brotherhood in the US now.

51 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 4:12:52pm

re: #46 thedopefishlives

I’ve always wondered how in the hell people who believe in a flat Earth explain being able to fly/sail all the way around it. Someone tried explaining the crazy to me once, but it just went way over my head.

All fake, doncha know.

52 jaunte  Jan 10, 2015 4:12:56pm

re: #42 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

… i probably spent about eighty hours, maybe more, so far researching this, reading books, going to various websites, using the knowledge that i’ve gained in my physics class

It’s a miracle.

53 The War TARDIS  Jan 10, 2015 4:14:39pm

re: #50 The War TARDIS

Also, Derna is under DAESH control.

54 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 4:14:44pm

re: #52 jaunte

It’s a miracle.

It’s a miracle she can read.

55 b_sharp  Jan 10, 2015 4:16:39pm

re: #36 Justanotherhuman

Canadians will not be deterred from baking in the sun. : )

Damned right.

We have a right to massive sunburn.

56 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 4:17:34pm

And they both vote.

57 b_sharp  Jan 10, 2015 4:18:05pm

Is there a celebration planned for when Chuckie actually gets something correct?

58 BeachDem  Jan 10, 2015 4:19:22pm

Win or lose, this Patriots’ touchdown play was a thing of beauty!

Julian Edelman Touchdown pass to Danny Amendola

59 thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2015 4:20:34pm

re: #57 b_sharp

Is there a celebration planned for when Chuckie actually gets something correct?

It’ll be a cold day in hell before that happens.

60 thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2015 4:23:06pm

re: #52 jaunte

It’s a miracle.

So someone spends 80 hours doing research into something and they become an expert. Time to shut down all of the universities. I bet those guys with Ph.D’s are just pissed they didn’t think of this first.

61 b_sharp  Jan 10, 2015 4:23:48pm

In other news, although V still has a problem with nausea she’s off the anti-nausea medication, is climbing the steps several times a day and is trying to consume more protein. The hole in her gut has gone from 4cm deep ( stories claiming it started at 3cm were apparently mistaken) to 3cm deep by 2 cm wide. (She still complains about the smell 0_o)

Her very sick cat looks to be improving as well, which lessens a great deal of stress from V. He actually came out to be petted a couple of times today.

All in all, things look better every day.

62 b.d.  Jan 10, 2015 4:25:33pm

re: #61 b_sharp

Wonderful news and best thoughts for continued progress.

63 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 4:27:44pm

re: #61 b_sharp

So glad to hear this. Time and care can only help. {{{Hugs to her!}}}

64 PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2015 4:28:16pm

re: #61 b_sharp

That is good news. You and your family are in my prayers.

65 Fineday  Jan 10, 2015 4:28:34pm

re: #61 b_sharp

Great news. Hope the recovery continues for both V and the cat.

66 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 4:29:07pm

More on that WestJet flight:

Editor’s note: More on WestJet flight: NORAD says it monitored WestJet flight 2154 but did not launch fighters. NORAD called the situation a ‘false alarm.’ WestJet says the plane’s captain confirmed by phone that the plane had safely landed at its destination and the crew did not transmit a hijack signal. - Jimmy
end of note

67 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 4:30:26pm

O FFS. So I saw a tweet that willfully misinterprets this image as a racist depiction of a black man as an animal:

Image: photo.jpg

Um, guys. This is Dieudonne, a well-known antisemite and Holocaust denier, and a personal friend of Le Pen Sr. to boot. What is depicted is a hand up his arse (not a tail), satirizing the antisemitic quenelle gesture that he invented, which is intended to be a new “sieg heil” (and which is explained as a hand up “Zionism’s” ass). Indeed, the image says “Bonne quenelle”.

68 jaunte  Jan 10, 2015 4:34:28pm
“…Alain Jakubowicz, president of the French League against Racism and Anti-Semitism, described the quenelle as a “reverse Nazi salute signifying the sodomisation of the victims of the Shoah”.”
france24.com
69 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jan 10, 2015 4:35:10pm

re: #44 Justanotherhuman

And the earth is flat, to boot.

70 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2015 4:35:45pm
71 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 4:41:17pm

re: #60 thedopefishlives

So someone spends 80 hours doing research into something and they become an expert. Time to shut down all of the universities. I bet those guys with Ph.D’s are just pissed they didn’t think of this first.

Her website makes me shudder. And, of course, it’s all about the money, too. For “personal consultations”:

30-minute session: $30
60-minute session (or 2 30-minute sessions): $55
Additional sessions billed at $50 per hour

Also available for speaking engagements:

Fees for speaking engagements are $150 for 30 min. or $250 for 60 min. and sliding fees are available for non-profit groups.

and media appearances (no doubt for a fee and/or expenses).

Yet, no curriculum vitae unless you just want to count being a wife and mother for 8 years (and 3 kids), but no educational chops listed. HS, at least?

72 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 4:44:39pm

re: #68 jaunte

Dieudonne’s fans are fond of doing quenelle in front of Holocaust memorials. But satirizing him is raaaaacist.

73 ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2015 4:45:58pm

Looking at Google images and I saw this.

If you look, there is a wall about 5 feet out from the bombed wall. I do not see that wall at all in Chuck C’s image. It is in the Denver Post article. And the area behind where the police officers are standing in the image (background) does not look the same as what is seen in Chucks photo (foreground). Looks to me it was another side of the building.

Here is another picture. I don’t see these walkways in Chuck’s picture.

Was there any articles mentioning the directions the building lies and the wall the bomb was against as far as being north, east, south, etc.

Or, was that too hard for the world’s greatest pretend journalist to try to research so he was clear?

74 b_sharp  Jan 10, 2015 4:47:44pm

re: #73 ObserverArt

Looking at Google images and I saw this.

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If you look, there is a wall about 5 feet out from the bombed wall. I do not see that wall at all in Chuck C’s image. It is in the Denver Post article. And the area behind where the police officers are standing in the image (background) does not look the same as what is seen in Chucks photo (foreground). Looks to me it was another side of the building.

Here is another picture. I don’t see these walkways in Chuck’s picture.

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Was there any articles mentioning the directions the building lies and the wall the bomb was against as far as being north, east, south, etc.

Or, was that too hard for the world’s greatest pretend journalist to try to research so he was clear?

Another of Chuckie’s ‘breaking’ stories going up in smoke.

75 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 4:49:25pm

re: #73 ObserverArt

No, it’s the right building, and wheatdogg has independently found the same stain from another angle. The wall is there, the light area surrounding the shadowed area.

Chuck’s only mistake (which happens to be fatal) is that he’s barking up the wrong smudge.

76 b_sharp  Jan 10, 2015 4:50:31pm

re: #74 b_sharp

Another of Chuckie’s ‘breaking’ stories going up in smoke.

I hate it when I waste a pun.

77 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 4:50:53pm

I took a physics course in 1973.

That should make me a genius, too. Or at least able to scam someone.

No? : (

I disappoint myself…

78 Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2015 4:56:02pm

And he’s defending George Zimmerman too.

79 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 4:57:24pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

Remember #GeorgeZimmerman was pulled over on an unrelated charge & then said her boyfriend threw a wine bottle at her. I don’t believe it.

What, George is a she now? /

80 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 4:57:41pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

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In which Upchuck always makes the victimizer the victim?

81 Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2015 4:57:52pm
82 b.d.  Jan 10, 2015 4:58:16pm

Who the hell defends George ZImmerman in 2015?

83 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 10, 2015 4:59:10pm

UpChuck brings to media what McDonalds brings to fine cuisine.

RBS

84 jaunte  Jan 10, 2015 4:59:39pm

He’s just taking a little weekend break before starting the calculation of his next big mistake.

85 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 5:03:20pm

re: #83 RealityBasedSteve

UpChuck brings to media what McDonalds brings to fine cuisine.

RBS

McDonalds is edible. Chuck is more this.

86 The War TARDIS  Jan 10, 2015 5:04:58pm

re: #85 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

You sure McDonald’s is edible?

I get sick from it.

87 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 5:06:19pm

re: #86 The War TARDIS

Royal Cheeseburger (I heard you name it “Quarter Pounder”), yummy.

;)

88 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 10, 2015 5:06:22pm

re: #85 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

McDonalds is edible. Chuck is more this.

Or possibly this….

89 BeachDem  Jan 10, 2015 5:07:19pm

I know there’s not a lot of New England team love here, but I gotta say YAY PATS!

90 jaunte  Jan 10, 2015 5:07:30pm

re: #88 RealityBasedSteve

Boneless?

91 RadicalModerate  Jan 10, 2015 5:07:51pm

re: #90 jaunte

Boneless?

And inverted!

92 b_sharp  Jan 10, 2015 5:07:55pm

re: #90 jaunte

Boneless?

Try Viagra

93 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 5:08:01pm

re: #88 RealityBasedSteve

And his site is all like

Gordon Ramsey - Maggot Cheese - F Word

94 jaunte  Jan 10, 2015 5:08:53pm

I thought my pig walked funny, but it was just his bones bothering him.

95 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 10, 2015 5:09:31pm

Hello, all. Morning here, and I woke up to find myself on the front page, so to speak. Nice! Thanks, Charles.

Observer Art’s last photo is the clincher in the debunking of CCJ. There are two marks, one old, one new. Even someone with an IQ of 158 can see it.

Master of Pixels UpChuck won’t.

96 OhNoZombies!  Jan 10, 2015 5:12:20pm

Dre: #67 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

O FFS. So I saw a tweet that willfully misinterprets this image as a racist depiction of a black man as an animal:

Image: photo.jpg

Um, guys. This is Dieudonne, a well-known antisemite and Holocaust denier, and a personal friend of Le Pen Sr. to boot. What is depicted is a hand up his arse (not a tail), satirizing the antisemitic quenelle gesture that he invented, which is intended to be a new “sieg heil” (and which is explained as a hand up “Zionism’s” ass). Indeed, the image says “Bonne quenelle”.

Dieudonne (never heard of him before today) is all kinds of F’d up. I get the magazine cover now, but I’m still not crazy about it.
American sensibilities and all I suppose.

97 Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2015 5:15:42pm

re: #73 ObserverArt

Pretty sure I see the walkways in the photos above, too, but they’re in shadow and it’s a lower angle so they aren’t as obvious.

98 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 5:19:50pm

re: #96 OhNoZombies!

I understand. That said, this is why I stress the importance of context all the time. To get this pic one has to know who Dieudonne is and what quenelle is, which not a lot people outside France know. All the more reason for caution before interpreting something foreign.

99 The War TARDIS  Jan 10, 2015 5:20:36pm

re: #87 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I have had them.

McDonald’s makes me sick. Burger King, and literally everyone else does not.

100 b.d.  Jan 10, 2015 5:21:32pm

I would love to see how quick Chuck C Johnson would turn on Zimmerman if Zimmerman converted to Islam, suddenly their would be a lot of dots for Chuck to connect.

101 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 5:21:44pm

re: #99 The War TARDIS

OK, but that’s your personal experience. Which I do not deny, but neither can it be extrapolated.

102 b_sharp  Jan 10, 2015 5:22:40pm

re: #101 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

OK, but that’s your personal experience. Which I do not deny, but neither can it be extrapolated.

I tried extrapolating once. My mother caught me, so I quit.

103 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2015 5:22:59pm

I want a pizza but it’s too cold to go out. Pizza shop here does not deliver.
Wish I was back in Miami :(

104 Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2015 5:23:16pm

re: #98 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I understand. That said, this is why I stress the importance of context all the time. To get this pic one has to know who Dieudonne is and what quenelle is, which not a lot people outside France know. All the more reason for caution before interpreting something foreign.

If everyone had been reading LGF in 2004 they’d know who Dieudonne is.

Antisemitic French Comedian to Be Prosecuted

105 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 5:25:27pm

re: #93 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

And I thought my dad’s Limburger cheese was awful.

106 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 5:26:58pm

re: #103 The Vicious Babushka

I want a pizza but it’s too cold to go out. Pizza shop here does not deliver.
Wish I was back in Miami :(

It’s just another pie!

107 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 5:29:33pm

re: #99 The War TARDIS

I have had them.

McDonald’s makes me sick. Burger King, and literally everyone else does not.

Stay away from Arby’s.

khq.com

108 b_sharp  Jan 10, 2015 5:31:08pm

re: #107 Justanotherhuman

Stay away from Arby’s.

khq.com

Arby’s is dying up here.

109 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 5:32:40pm

re: #88 RealityBasedSteve

Or possibly this….

Embedded Image

You noticed those were for export? Holy shit…

110 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 5:34:43pm

re: #108 b_sharp

Arby’s is dying up here.

It’s dying down here, too. Back in the early 70s, it was my son’s first “real” job after the paper route.

112 b_sharp  Jan 10, 2015 5:37:54pm

re: #110 Justanotherhuman

It’s dying down here, too. Back in the early 70s, it was my son’s first “real” job after the paper route.

The cheese-like substance they use on their potatoes stopped us from going there.

113 goddamnedfrank  Jan 10, 2015 5:38:26pm

re: #67 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

O FFS. So I saw a tweet that willfully misinterprets this image as a racist depiction of a black man as an animal:

Image: photo.jpg

Um, guys. This is Dieudonne, a well-known antisemite and Holocaust denier, and a personal friend of Le Pen Sr. to boot. What is depicted is a hand up his arse (not a tail), satirizing the antisemitic quenelle gesture that he invented, which is intended to be a new “sieg heil” (and which is explained as a hand up “Zionism’s” ass). Indeed, the image says “Bonne quenelle”.

I think the problem isn’t that the cartoon is racist, it isn’t, it’s that it objectively fails to clearly convey clearly what it intends. I don’t think it looks like a tail, but it doesn’t look like an arm to me either. If they’re going to draw a disembodied appendage like that help a brother out, maybe toss in a wristwatch or an elbow or something for reference. Because otherwise to me it looks like he’s squeezing out a yellow zucchini. I get the quenelle reference now, but I hadn’t heard of it prior to laster year when Anelka got banned for using it on the field.

114 Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2015 5:39:01pm

Wow, this tweet seem to have gotten a lot of play…

115 ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2015 5:39:36pm

re: #95 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Hello, all. Morning here, and I woke up to find myself on the front page, so to speak. Nice! Thanks, Charles.

Observer Art’s last photo is the clincher in the debunking of CCJ. There are two marks, one old, one new. Even someone with an IQ of 158 can see it.

Master of Pixels UpChuck won’t.

re: #97 Charles Johnson

Pretty sure I see the walkways in the photos above, too, but they’re in shadow and it’s a lower angle so they aren’t as obvious.

I agree. It is the same corner but the smudges are now different as wheat points out. The Google View really flattens things out. The image I found with the two cops has more depth.

116 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 5:39:40pm

re: #113 goddamnedfrank

I think the problem isn’t that the cartoon is racist, it isn’t, it’s that it objectively fails to clearly convey clearly what it intends. I don’t think it looks like a tail, but it doesn’t look like an arm to me either. If they’re going to draw a disembodied appendage like that help a brother out, maybe toss in a wristwatch or an elbow or something for reference. Because otherwise to me it looks like he’s squeezing out a yellow zucchini. I get the quenelle reference now, but I hadn’t heard of it prior to laster year when Anelka got banned for using it on the field.

Yes, its intended audience is in France and it knows very well what and who is depicted.

117 Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2015 5:41:14pm
118 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 5:42:12pm

re: #113 goddamnedfrank

It may not be an arm, BTW, I’m just assuming it is because it does depict “quenelle”, and quenelle is performed with an arm. But it could be a zucchini, for all we know - it works as long as it’s “up his ass”.

119 b_sharp  Jan 10, 2015 5:42:49pm

re: #114 Charles Johnson

Wow, this tweet seem to have gotten a lot of play…

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You know, it just drips of sarcasm. Why do they not get it?

120 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 5:44:17pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

The same right that would love to ban Piss Christ if given opportunity.

121 jaunte  Jan 10, 2015 5:44:42pm
122 Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2015 5:44:51pm

re: #119 b_sharp

You know, it just drips of sarcasm. Why do they not get it?

I know, right? Sarcasm seems to be a vanishing art.

123 PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2015 5:44:55pm

re: #119 b_sharp

Either they are closed minded or ignorant.

124 lawhawk  Jan 10, 2015 5:45:24pm

re: #88 RealityBasedSteve

Or possibly this….

Embedded Image

Rectum? Darn near killed ‘em!

125 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 5:46:12pm

re: #124 lawhawk

Rectum? Darn near killed ‘em!

And I did it Obama self.

126 PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2015 5:46:47pm

re: #124 lawhawk

re: #125 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

lol

127 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 5:47:38pm

19 dead, 18 injured in Nigeria market blast: police

MAIDUGURI, Nigeria: A suicide bomb attack by a young girl thought to be as young as 10 in the northeast Nigerian city of Maiduguri killed 19 people, police said on Saturday.

“Borno State police spokesman Gideon Jubrin told reporters, “Casualty figure is 20 dead and 18 injured, including the female suicide bomber that detonated the improvised explosive device.” More

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

A child? Horror.

128 Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2015 5:47:39pm
129 b_sharp  Jan 10, 2015 5:50:27pm

re: #123 PhillyPretzel

Either they are closed minded or ignorant.

Or both.

130 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 5:51:13pm

re: #128 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Video

Haha, that joke’s as old as I am. : )

131 lawhawk  Jan 10, 2015 5:51:20pm

KHOU is reporting a hostage situation with gunman at a hospital. So far, they’re the only ones reporting on it. Houston Chronicle doesn’t have anything up yet.

I sure hope those early reports are wrong. I pray that they are, knowing that they may well turn out to be true.

132 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 5:52:05pm

re: #131 lawhawk

Being reported here, also.

click2houston.com

133 Franklin  Jan 10, 2015 5:52:16pm

Hiya.

Leaving the American hand egg game between New England and. Baltimore. My sports franchise was victorious. Sports!!

134 lawhawk  Jan 10, 2015 5:53:06pm

re: #70 The Vicious Babushka

135 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2015 5:53:25pm

re: #106 Justanotherhuman

It’s just another pie!

Heh.

I found some pita bread in the freezer, and a can of pizza sauce and some shredded cheese and made a little pizza in about 5 minutes.

136 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 10, 2015 5:54:12pm

Anyone cooking up for Saturday dinner?

It’s a rainy evening here, not going out and I had some eggnog left. So I made an eggnog custard, but with the caramel like flan and some raisins with cinnamon in the bottom of the ramekin. Soaked the raisins in rum a while. When I remove them and flip them over thinking on a graham cracker base. Should be interesting. Melting sugar in a pan is always a bit challenging at least for me.

137 Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2015 5:56:23pm
138 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 10, 2015 5:56:59pm

I just did a real quick chili with hamburger, canned red beans, tomatoes with chilies, some onion and a pack of chili seasoning. Quick and easy, and it seemed to be what my body wanted.

RBS

139 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 5:57:26pm

The “rectum” joke was about the same era as this:

He has optical rectosis.

What’s that?

It’s a disease of the nerve running from your eyeball to your asshole that gives you a shitty outlook on life.

140 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2015 5:57:27pm

Wait, there was a shooting in Idaho? Where were all the good guys with guns?

Shot by their own 2-year-olds.

141 ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2015 5:58:08pm

re: #125 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

And I did it Obama self.

Obama Self is a famous song by Eric Carmen (Ohio boy and ex-member of the Raspberries) and was covered by many others.

/

142 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 5:59:34pm

re: #136 Rightwingconspirator

Anyone cooking up for Saturday dinner?

It’s a rainy evening here, not going out and I had some eggnog left. So I made an eggnog custard, but with the caramel like flan and some raisins with cinnamon in the bottom of the ramekin. Soaked the raisins in rum a while. When I remove them and flip them over thinking on a graham cracker base. Should be interesting. Melting sugar in a pan is always a bit challenging at least for me.

Meh. I had leftover Chinese takeout. Their “serving” is always enough for 2 meals…

143 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2015 5:59:54pm
144 ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2015 6:00:35pm

re: #142 Justanotherhuman

Meh. I had leftover Chinese takeout. Their “serving” is always enough for 2 meals…

Weren’t you supposed to get hungry again 45 minutes later and then eat the rest?

/

146 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 6:02:11pm

re: #140 The Vicious Babushka

Great job, Kelsey!

Multiple shootings reported in Idaho, suspect captured

news.yahoo.com

147 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2015 6:03:55pm

re: #146 Justanotherhuman

Great job, Kelsey!

Multiple shootings reported in Idaho, suspect captured

news.yahoo.com

Does not say anything about a random gun-carrying citizen stopping the shooter.

148 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 10, 2015 6:04:04pm

re: #142 Justanotherhuman

Meh. I had leftover Chinese takeout. Their “serving” is always enough for 2 meals…

One of the local Mexican places is like that, the freaking fajitas for 1 will feed me for 2 days easy…

RBS

149 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 6:04:20pm

re: #141 ObserverArt

Obama Self is a famous song by Eric Carmen (Ohio boy and ex-member of the Raspberries) and was covered by many others.

/

His biggest hit, of course.

Eric Carmen “All By MySelf”

150 Kragar  Jan 10, 2015 6:06:48pm

Basically many RWNJ are saying because the bomber was incompetent, it really isn’t terrorism.

Using that logic, Bush was never President.

151 The Ghost of a Funky Discarded Egg  Jan 10, 2015 6:07:49pm

re: #136 Rightwingconspirator

Anyone cooking up for Saturday dinner?

It’s a rainy evening here, not going out and I had some eggnog left. So I made an eggnog custard, but with the caramel like flan and some raisins with cinnamon in the bottom of the ramekin. Soaked the raisins in rum a while. When I remove them and flip them over thinking on a graham cracker base. Should be interesting. Melting sugar in a pan is always a bit challenging at least for me.

Melting sugar is like culinary napalm. I love what can be done with it…but man is it a finicky, sinister substance.

I just finished making Pakistani-style haleem—split pea, wheat, and beef stew. I’ll freeze it in portions for lazy meals…stir fry some onions and other veg, add the slow-cooked meat and pulses, and it’s a perfect winter meal.

The funny thing is, I may now end up making an entirely different meal…mole verde…to use up stuff in my fridge.

152 ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2015 6:08:07pm

re: #149 Justanotherhuman

His biggest hit, of course.

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And his biggest as the main member of the Raspberries.

Kinda helped set the stage for power pop bands to come.

Raspberries Go All The Way Mike Douglas Show 1974

153 Belafon  Jan 10, 2015 6:09:33pm

re: #133 Franklin

Hiya.

Leaving the American hand egg game between New England and. Baltimore. My sports franchise was victorious. Sports!!

Hand egg:

Youtube Video

154 b_sharp  Jan 10, 2015 6:09:35pm

re: #150 Kragar

Basically many RWNJ are saying because the bomber was incompetent, it really isn’t terrorism.

Using that logic, Bush was never President.

And attempted murders should be ignored.

155 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 6:09:57pm

re: #148 RealityBasedSteve

Wish I’d gotten the sesame chicken (like my grandson) instead of the ShaCha Chicken, though. Wasn’t nearly spicy enough, and I’ve had Szechwan broccoli that made me actually sweat once. : )

156 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 10, 2015 6:12:40pm

Eating leftovers* tonight in order to make room in the fridge for the groceries I bought today. Maybe some interesting cooking tomorrow.

* - Due to gallon of apple cider and two 1/2 gal containers of OJ I now have a half bottle of wine to consume since there is no room for it. Poor pitiful me.

158 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 6:16:36pm

re: #156 Feline Fearless Leader

All right, then. It’s your fault I finally have to finish off the remaining glass of that Riesling I bought for New Year’s.

159 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 10, 2015 6:19:34pm

re: #151 The Ghost of a Funky Discarded Egg

Melting sugar is like culinary napalm. I love what can be canwith it…but man is it a finicky, sinister substance.

I just finished making Pakistani-style haleem—split pea, wheat, and beef stew. I’ll freeze it in portions for lazy meals…stir fry some onions and other veg, add the slow-cooked meat and pulses, and it’s a perfect winter meal.

The funny thing is, I may now end up making an entirely different meal…mole verde…to use up stuff in my fridge.

The stew sounds wonderful. I think I’m more nervous around the sugar when molten than I am most metals when casting.

160 BigPapa  Jan 10, 2015 6:19:58pm

How it all started for me?

Dad didn’t pull out.

161 Varek Raith  Jan 10, 2015 6:21:42pm

re: #160 BigPapa

How it all started for me?

Dad didn’t pull out.

I just get to the thread and, bam, bad joke.

162 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 6:25:12pm

re: #161 Varek Raith

I just get to the thread and, bam, bad joke.

You haven’t heard the Little Red Riding Hood joke yet.

163 jaunte  Jan 10, 2015 6:26:09pm
164 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 6:26:33pm

More on hostage situation at Tomball, Texas, hospital: ‘Preliminary information indicates the man is the father of a patient and is distraught,’ Harris County Sherriff’s Office says - @HCSOTexas
see original on twitter.com

165 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 10, 2015 6:30:48pm

re: #161 Varek Raith

I just get to the thread and, bam, bad joke.

“And that’s the beer that made Mel Fainy walk us”

RBS

166 BigPapa  Jan 10, 2015 6:32:06pm

re: #161 Varek Raith

I just get to the thread and, bam, bad joke.

I never disappoint.

167 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 10, 2015 6:37:05pm

re: #161 Varek Raith

I just get to the thread and, bam, bad joke.

Hear about Presidential candidate Bush’s new PAC to solicit campaign funds from motorcycle clubs?

Harley Jeb Dough!

168 b_sharp  Jan 10, 2015 6:39:38pm

Mmmm. 18 year old Glennfiddich. Smooth.

169 ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2015 6:44:34pm

re: #168 b_sharp

Mmmm. 18 year old Glennfiddich. Smooth.

Mmmm. Save me a glass.

How do you like it…straight, a spot of water, or a couple of cubes?

170 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 6:45:14pm
171 b_sharp  Jan 10, 2015 6:46:55pm

re: #169 ObserverArt

Mmmm. Save me a glass.

How do you like it…straight, a spot of water, or a couple of cubes?

Straight. Sometimes I pop a bit of water or an ice cube in.

I never mix it with anything.

172 Varek Raith  Jan 10, 2015 6:50:51pm

re: #167 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Hear about Presidential candidate Bush’s new PAC to solicit campaign funds from motorcycle clubs?

Harley Jeb Dough!

Pewpewpew.

173 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 10, 2015 6:51:28pm

re: #169 ObserverArt

Mmmm. Save me a glass.

How do you like it…straight, a spot of water, or a couple of cubes?

I’m not a drinker any more, but when I was in Atlanta, some of the group was doing “Picklebacks”. A shot of 12 Y/O Irish Whisky followed immediately by a shot of pickle juice so you don’t taste anything. Seemed more than pointless to me.

RBS

174 b_sharp  Jan 10, 2015 6:53:56pm

re: #173 RealityBasedSteve

I’m not a drinker any more, but when I was in Atlanta, some of the group was doing “Picklebacks”. A shot of 12 Y/O Irish Whisky followed immediately by a shot of pickle juice so you don’t taste anything. Seemed more than pointless to me.

RBS

Seems rather pointless to me too.

The flavour is why you buy a whiskey. You can get drunk on any old hooch.

175 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 6:54:42pm

re: #171 b_sharp

Straight. Sometimes I pop a bit of water or an ice cube in.

I never mix it with anything.

I tried Scotch once. Hated it. Discovered I didn’t like any brown whiskies, and in fact, no types of distilled liquor at all (couldn’t tolerate it well, even in a cocktail), but preferred fermented products like beer and wine. In the last 20 yrs, hardly drink anything much, though.

A matter of taste, really.

176 ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2015 6:54:52pm

re: #173 RealityBasedSteve

I’m not a drinker any more, but when I was in Atlanta, some of the group was doing “Picklebacks”. A shot of 12 Y/O Irish Whisky followed immediately by a shot of pickle juice so you don’t taste anything. Seemed more than pointless to me.

RBS

Gah. Why ruin the taste of a good aged scotch…or whisky?

177 The Mountain That Blogs  Jan 10, 2015 6:57:33pm

This was the last comment I posted on this site, a few days ago. Yup.

I have a feeling this great quote from wonkette’s new years post is going to end up being very reusable.

And that is Chuck C. Johnson for ya. If he wrote a story, it’s guaranteed to be not only wrong in both details and premise, it’s also certain to be morally icky while patting itself on the back for BREAKING! (wrong and incorrect) news.

178 b_sharp  Jan 10, 2015 6:57:53pm

re: #175 Justanotherhuman

I tried Scotch once. Hated it. Discovered I didn’t like any brown whiskies, and in fact, no types of distilled liquor at all (couldn’t tolerate it well, even in a cocktail), but preferred fermented products like beer and wine. In the last 20 yrs, hardly drink anything much, though.

A matter of taste, really.

It takes me a year to finish off a bottle of scotch. I drink very little but when I do I try to enjoy the flavour as much as I can.

I also drink Guinness on occasion.

179 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jan 10, 2015 6:59:00pm

re: #119 b_sharp

You know, it just drips of sarcasm. Why do they not get it?

For the same reason they thought Colbert was on their side, really.

180 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 6:59:01pm

Reminds me of an old Italian guy who lived across from me who used to rant and rail about the “goddamned beer drinking Irish” when having to pick up a can carelessly thrown from a car.

He hated almost everybody and almost poisoned my dogs feeding them ancient leftovers from his fridge.

181 Lancelot Link  Jan 10, 2015 7:02:05pm

re: #173 RealityBasedSteve

Around here we drink picklebacks with cheap whiskey, in which case it makes much more sense.

182 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 7:02:23pm

re: #178 b_sharp

It takes me a year to finish off a bottle of scotch. I drink very little but when I do I try to enjoy the flavour as much as I can.

I also drink Guinness on occasion.

I would love to find some decent ale. Alas, not available here. Used to have to settle for some of the German imported brown beers.

183 Justanotherhuman  Jan 10, 2015 7:06:59pm

Later, Lizards!

Be kind…

184 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2015 7:08:09pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

I know, right? Sarcasm seems to be a vanishing art.

Sarcasm? Vanishing? No way!

:P

185 Varek Raith  Jan 10, 2015 7:13:10pm

re: #184 Eclectic Cyborg

Sarcasm? Vanishing? No way!

:P

Sarcasm is dead.

186 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 10, 2015 7:23:19pm

re: #185 Varek Raith

Ah we still have young Snark to enjoy. The ADHD child of BBS and twitter.

187 Odie Hugh Manatee  Jan 10, 2015 7:25:28pm

re: #161 Varek Raith

I just get to the thread and, bam, bad joke.

You go to post with the joke you have, not the joke you might want or wish to have.

:D

188 Gus  Jan 10, 2015 7:30:16pm

Following people on Twitter late at night and the next day you’re like “oh shit I brought a date home from the bar last night. Who is this person?”

189 ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2015 7:32:23pm

Later all. I’m getting stuffed up nose symptoms. It might be from all this dry cold air we’ve been having blow through. I am going to drink some nice warm tea and try to sleep it off bundled in a lot of blankets.

190 Gus  Jan 10, 2015 7:35:39pm

It’s true!

// 1/2

191 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 10, 2015 7:37:41pm

re: #189 ObserverArt

Later all. I’m getting stuffed up nose symptoms. It might be from all this dry cold air we’ve been having blow through. I am going to drink some nice warm tea and try to sleep it off bundled in a lot of blankets.

that’s the way I felt for a couple of days, and then today it just beat the hell out of me. I’m feeling a lot better now. I just sort of slept / sweat it out of me.

RBS

192 Lidane  Jan 10, 2015 7:40:16pm

ICYMI earlier, there was a ridiculous trick play in the New England/Baltimore game:

I guess that’s what happens when the guy you’re throwing to was a QB in college. Heh.

193 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 10, 2015 7:44:45pm

Well for the first time in a couple years I think I’m looking forward to Spring. Finally enough rain to have one.

Chipping away at the drought
194 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 10, 2015 7:57:51pm

Albert Uderzo releases images honoring the cartoonists killed at Charlie Hebdo.
bbc.com

195 jaunte  Jan 10, 2015 8:09:43pm

California Gothic.

196 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 10, 2015 8:25:17pm

asdfghjkl

197 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jan 10, 2015 8:26:51pm

re: #196 RealityBasedSteve

asdfghjkl

qwertyuiop

198 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 10, 2015 8:30:09pm

re: #197 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

qwertyuiop

etaoin shrdlu

199 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jan 10, 2015 8:33:47pm

re: #198 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

etaoin shrdlu

zxcvbnm?

200 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 10, 2015 8:33:53pm

re: #198 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

etaoin shrdlu

Farewell to etaoin shrdlu (NY Times)

201 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 10, 2015 8:34:45pm

qwerty do-whop do-whop

RBS

202 PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2015 8:39:22pm

re: #193 Rightwingconspirator

That is good news. :)

203 Varek Raith  Jan 10, 2015 8:42:42pm

re: #198 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

etaoin shrdlu

Engelbert Humperdinck.

204 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 10, 2015 8:54:02pm

re: #165 RealityBasedSteve

“And that’s the beer that made Mel Fainy walk us”

RBS

Heard that one a long, long time ago only the punchline was, “It’s the beer that made Mel Famous walk me.”

205 Ace-o-aces  Jan 10, 2015 8:58:04pm

re: #73 ObserverArt

Was there any articles mentioning the directions the building lies and the wall the bomb was against as far as being north, east, south, etc.

The bomb was on the Northeast corner of the building, which does correspond to the area Chucky showed from Google earth. However, I think you second picture reveals what is going on here. There is an oblong “smudge” along the side of the building. and that’s what is seen on Google Earth. But there is another, darker, mark superimposed over the right side of the older smudge, and that’s the mark left by the failed IED.

Swing and a miss Chucky, swing and a miss.

206 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 9:02:13pm

OK, I’ve just stumbled upon this film, so, I’m gonna watch it.

God Bless America - Official Trailer [HD]

207 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 10, 2015 9:02:32pm

re: #205 Ace-o-aces

The bomb was on the Northeast corner of the building, which does correspond to the area Chucky showed from Google earth. However, I think you second picture reveals what is going on here. There is an oblong “smudge” along the side of the building. and that’s what is seen on Google Earth. But there is another, darker, mark superimposed over the right side of the older smudge, and that’s the mark left by the failed IED.

Swing and a miss Chucky, swing and a miss.

upChuck strikes out when he’s still swinging a weighted bat on deck.

RBS

208 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 10, 2015 9:03:32pm

re: #205 Ace-o-aces

The bomb was on the Northeast corner of the building, which does correspond to the area Chucky showed from Google earth. However, I think you second picture reveals what is going on here. There is an oblong “smudge” along the side of the building. and that’s what is seen on Google Earth. But there is another, darker, mark superimposed over the right side of the older smudge, and that’s the mark left by the failed IED.

Swing and a miss Chucky, swing and a miss.

Honestly, I think the joker is playing to his audience. Either that, or he so blinded by his own prejudices (or belief in his superior intellect) that he only sees what he wants to see. It’s hard to tell which explanation is correct.

For GotNwes, I went with blind stupidity.

209 Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2015 9:08:29pm
210 jaunte  Jan 10, 2015 9:09:06pm
211 Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 10, 2015 9:16:25pm

The bomb splat is on the door behind the tree trunk. Took me about three seconds to orientate myself. This is his idea of analysis? Jeezus.

212 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 10, 2015 9:24:19pm

re: #211 Pawn of the Oppressor

The bomb splat is on the door behind the tree trunk. Took me about three seconds to orientate myself. This is his idea of analysis? Jeezus.

He’s using photos from Google captured in September 2014. so even without the tree in the way there would be no bomb damage. UpChuck is instead focusing on the larger blotch which is visible in the older and more recent images.

Kinda like the three blind men describing what an elephant looks like by feeling only one part of it.

213 dog philosopher  Jan 10, 2015 9:27:17pm

how to remove goobzo

214 teleskiguy  Jan 10, 2015 9:27:37pm

I tuned some skis and calibrated the bindings for one of the hotel employees, and she got me some Ballast Point Sculpin San Diego IPA.

Yummy!

215 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 9:28:37pm

Hmm, seems like there are plenty of jerks working at Al Jazeera English (but also decent people).

216 darthstar  Jan 10, 2015 9:31:35pm

Apparently there was no good guy with a gun there.

217 teleskiguy  Jan 10, 2015 9:36:31pm

re: #216 darthstar

Apparently there was no good guy with a gun there.

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Terminator 1 - Gun Shop Scene

218 dog philosopher  Jan 10, 2015 9:43:09pm

re: #216 darthstar

Apparently there was no good guy with a gun there.

there should be a bumper sticker that says

Unfortunately, The Good Guy With A Gun Is Usually Somewhere Else And The Bad Guy With A Gun Kills Or Maims A Lot More People Than He Could Have With A Fucking Knife, Moron

219 BeachDem  Jan 10, 2015 9:44:46pm

When you’re looking for some intelligent insight into the Paris attacks, who you gonna call? If you’re Chuck Todd and Press the Meat, it’s Rich Lowry and David Brooks, right? But of course it is.

Hey, NBC, they shoot horses, don’t they?

220 Single-handed sailor  Jan 10, 2015 9:47:52pm

re: #195 jaunte

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California Gothic.

I love a good storyteller. That is so Southern California, too. My wife’s cousin was in a very famous band, so I think he’s right about that. I miss Spalding Gray, another great storyteller. Today is the 10th anniversary of his death, so in tribute I link part one of Swimming to Cambodia.

Liveleak Video

221 #FergusonFireside  Jan 10, 2015 10:18:43pm

On my way home from work was listening to NPR, they were talking sports, about the Hall of Fame vote.

When they mentioned Curt Shilling all butthurt for not being voted in, “because I’m a republican” the commentator called him a wingnut.

It was pretty funny to hear.

222 teleskiguy  Jan 10, 2015 10:20:24pm
223 #FergusonFireside  Jan 10, 2015 11:07:38pm

Well, hell. LGF is dead as a door nail at night.

224 BigPapa  Jan 10, 2015 11:11:13pm

I can tell some bad jokes.

225 teleskiguy  Jan 10, 2015 11:14:16pm

What is it that makes a complete stranger dive into an icy river to save a solid gold baby? Maybe we’ll never know.

-Jack Handey

226 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 11:14:24pm

re: #206 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

OK, that was extremely dark. And a bit pointless. Like reading a de Sade novel, except if de Sade was a liberal.

227 #FergusonFireside  Jan 10, 2015 11:16:59pm

re: #226 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

OK, that was extremely dark. And a bit pointless. Like reading a de Sade novel, except if de Sade was a liberal.

The wingnut id.

228 #FergusonFireside  Jan 10, 2015 11:17:16pm

Dark and pointless.

229 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 10, 2015 11:18:00pm

re: #228 #FergusonFireside

Except they were killing wingnuts, among other people. Sorta a creepy movie, esp. in current context.

230 Mattand  Jan 10, 2015 11:18:36pm

re: #220 Single-handed sailor

My wife’s cousin was in a very famous band, so I think he’s right about that.

How famous are we talking about? Rock Hall of Fame famous? Locally? One hit wonder?

231 Single-handed sailor  Jan 10, 2015 11:24:02pm

re: #230 Mattand

How famous are we talking about? Rock Hall of Fame famous? Locally? One hit wonder?

Her cousin Stu played for CCR.

232 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 10, 2015 11:30:49pm

Not bad! Closest I’ve got is that my ex-wife shot down Paul Westerburg of the Replacements when he hit on her at The Electric Fetus in Minneapolis.

233 goddamnedfrank  Jan 10, 2015 11:39:22pm

Poe’s law.

Normally I’d be like, “Yeah, that has to be sarcasm, right? I mean it has to be.” But then there’s the rest of that thread, and the guy’s timeline, and I think, “Damn, they’re serious.”

234 #FergusonFireside  Jan 10, 2015 11:43:51pm

I was here and now I’m retiring. Night all.

235 Mattand  Jan 11, 2015 12:34:11am

re: #231 Single-handed sailor

Her cousin Stu played for CCR.

Whoa.

236 freetoken  Jan 11, 2015 2:36:07am

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237 freetoken  Jan 11, 2015 2:39:45am

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238 freetoken  Jan 11, 2015 2:52:30am
239 freetoken  Jan 11, 2015 2:56:56am

The world of internet music shifted in mid to late 2014, with some unexpected changes in major repositories of mp3s.

Nevertheless, specialist and cult music still remains….

MP3 Audio

240 freetoken  Jan 11, 2015 3:09:23am

My favorites, The Peanuts, doing their 1960’s blend of glee club/night club/melodrama like only they could:

MP3 Audio

241 freetoken  Jan 11, 2015 3:24:43am

We could try for some fusion… let’s see… how about C&W + Japanese?

MP3 Audio

242 Lancelot Link  Jan 11, 2015 3:34:45am

re: #240 freetoken

Wow, and I thought I was the only night-owl Peanuts fan around here…

243 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 11, 2015 3:54:42am

In a sense, happy birthday to Canada…

January 11 , 1815 was the birth date of John A Macdonald architect of the federal government of modern Canada. From a tiny corner of a country to one that spanned a continent is thanks more to him than any other person.

Just a tidbit I found interesting.
(ed for spelling,)

244 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 4:03:29am

Hot water pipe in the bathroom froze last night, even though outside temperature was about 25F.

grrrr……

245 Lancelot Link  Jan 11, 2015 4:06:11am

With any luck, here’s Kim Jung-Mi;

MP3 Audio

246 darthstar  Jan 11, 2015 4:41:59am
247 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 4:54:58am

re: #216 darthstar

Apparently there was no good guy with a gun there.

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Yes, there was: The co-owner of the store who fired on the robbers. He got hit in the exchange of gunfire, but was instrumental in stopping the robbery. I’d call that a win for the good guys.

248 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 11, 2015 4:57:58am

re: #247 Dark_Falcon

A victory ala Pyrrhus I’d say. Kept guns off the street at the cost of the owner’s life.

249 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 5:03:14am

re: #247 Dark_Falcon

Yes, there was: The co-owner of the store who fired on the robbers. He got hit in the exchange of gunfire, but survived and was instrumental in stopping the robbery. I’d call that a win for the good guys.

He died.
kansascity.com

250 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 5:03:17am

re: #248 William Barnett-Lewis

A victory ala Pyrrhus I’d say. Kept guns off the street at the cost of the owner’s life.

I wouldn’t say that. His resistance also helped the police catch 4 nasty thugs who’ll now be going away for life. You don’t have to survive to win a real victory.

251 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 5:04:08am

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

He died.
kansascity.com

Sorry, I hadn’t seen that update to the story. I edited my post.

252 darthstar  Jan 11, 2015 5:04:22am

re: #250 Dark_Falcon

I wouldn’t say that. His resistance also helped the police catch 4 nasty thugs who’ll now be going away for life. You don’t have to survive to win a real victory.

It’s a lot harder to hold the trophy over your head if you’re dead.

253 darthstar  Jan 11, 2015 5:06:23am

I’m sure the gun store owner’s final thoughts were how awesome it was that he had a 2nd Amendment solution to an altercation with 2nd Amendment abusers. A real victory indeed.

254 Varek Raith  Jan 11, 2015 5:11:02am

12 degrees outside.
My furnace is broken.
Woot!
/

255 darthstar  Jan 11, 2015 5:14:21am

re: #254 Varek Raith

12 degrees outside.
My furnace is broken.
Woot!
/

Open the windows and the inside & outside temps will level off.

256 Bubblehead II  Jan 11, 2015 5:14:24am

re: #244 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hot water pipe in the bathroom froze last night, even though outside temperature was about 25F.

grrrr……

Well at least you were home (I hope) when it happened. We came home Fri. afternoon to the sound of spraying water in the front bathroom. Feed line to the tank on the toilet had backed out of the fitting and water was everywhere. Still sucking water out of the carpet with the wet/dry vac. Got a box fan blowing over it to help dry, but with the house sealed up for winter, kinda hard to open a window to help speed up the drying.

257 Bubblehead II  Jan 11, 2015 5:15:21am

BTW, morning Lizards.

258 Eventual Carrion  Jan 11, 2015 5:15:37am

re: #256 Bubblehead II

Well at least you were home (I hope) when it happened. We came home Fri. afternoon to the sound of spraying water in the front bathroom. Feed line to the tank on the toilet had backed out of the fitting and water was everywhere. Still sucking water out of the carpet with the wet/dry vac. Got a box fan blowing over it to help dry, but with the house sealed up for winter, kinda hard to open a window to help speed up the drying.

That SUCKS!

259 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 5:16:34am

re: #256 Bubblehead II

Well at least you were home (I hope) when it happened. We came home Fri. afternoon to the sound of spraying water in the front bathroom. Feed line to the tank on the toilet had backed out of the fitting and water was everywhere. Still sucking water out of the carpet with the wet/dry vac. Got a box fan blowing over it to help dry, but with the house sealed up for winter, kinda hard to open a window to help speed up the drying.

The pipe is still frozen, so I don’t know if it has burst yet. I still have hot water to the kitchen.
All I can do for now is just wait and see what happens.

fun times…

260 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 5:16:41am

re: #252 darthstar

It’s a lot harder to hold the trophy over your head if you’re dead.

It’s not about holding trophys, darth, its about doing the right thing. Had he let his store be robbed, he likely would have lived but the guns stolen likely would have been used to kill others. By fighting back, he ensured he was the only one who died. That was a right and honorable course.

261 Bubblehead II  Jan 11, 2015 5:18:08am

Tell me about it. Now have to keep an eye out for mold/mildew for the rest of the winter and jump on the first signs of it until summer arrives and we can open up the house and properly air it out.

262 Eventual Carrion  Jan 11, 2015 5:21:18am

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

The pipe is still frozen, so I don’t know if it has burst yet. I still have hot water to the kitchen.
All I can do for now is just wait and see what happens.

fun times…

Hope your situation works out better than Bubblehead’s catastrophe.

263 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 5:22:48am

re: #260 Dark_Falcon

Also note that the store was co-owned by a married couple and the wife was also there and also shot the robbers.

264 Bubblehead II  Jan 11, 2015 5:24:00am

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

The pipe is still frozen, so I don’t know if it has burst yet. I still have hot water to the kitchen.
All I can do for now is just wait and see what happens.

fun times…

We used to have that problem in the back bathroom. Pipes were on an outside wall and it got freezing cold under the sink/cabinet. Learned to leave to doors open on the cabinet so it didn’t get that cold. A space heater in the bathroom also didn’t hurt either

265 Varek Raith  Jan 11, 2015 5:26:21am

Heater guy will be here at noon.
Sweet.

266 Bubblehead II  Jan 11, 2015 5:27:38am

re: #262 Eventual Carrion

Hope your situation works out better than Bubblehead’s catastrophe.

I wouldn’t call it a catastrophe, major pain in the ass at this time is probably a better descriptor. Now if we end up having to pull/replace the carpet come spring, that may be another story.

267 ipsos  Jan 11, 2015 5:27:43am

Well, this is a conundrum. Like any right-thinking American, I hate the Cowboys and would dearly love to see them lose today. But the longer they stay alive, the more chances Chris Christie has to make a national ass of himself and decisively end whatever slim chance he had of being a 2016 contender, or at least helping to keep the GOP side hopelessly divided.

What to do?

268 darthstar  Jan 11, 2015 5:28:57am

re: #260 Dark_Falcon

It’s not about holding trophys, darth, its about doing the right thing. Had he let his store be robbed, he likely would have lived but the guns stolen likely would have been used to kill others. By fighting back, he ensured he was the only one who died. That was a right and honorable course.

You romanticize gun deaths like nobody else I’ve known. It was a robbery, he reacted, and tragically, he’s dead.

269 darthstar  Jan 11, 2015 5:29:35am

re: #267 ipsos

Well, this is a conundrum. Like any right-thinking American, I hate the Cowboys and would dearly love to see them lose today. But the longer they stay alive, the more chances Chris Christie has to make a national ass of himself and decisively end whatever slim chance he had of being a 2016 contender, or at least helping to keep the GOP side hopelessly divided.

What to do?

In a perfect world, both teams would lose today.

270 Bubblehead II  Jan 11, 2015 5:30:14am

re: #267 ipsos

Well, this is a conundrum. Like any right-thinking American, I hate the Cowboys and would dearly love to see them lose today. But the longer they stay alive, the more chances Chris Christie has to make a national ass of himself and decisively end whatever slim chance he had of being a 2016 contender, or at least helping to keep the GOP side hopelessly divided.

What to do?

Hope that the Cowboys hang on and Christie accepts even more tickets and plane rides and go’s down in a epic ethics scandal?

271 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 5:31:53am

re: #264 Bubblehead II

We used to have that problem in the back bathroom. Pipes were on an outside wall and it got freezing cold under the sink/cabinet. Learned to leave to doors open on the cabinet so it didn’t get that cold. A space heater in the bathroom also didn’t hurt either

There’s a space heater in the bathroom (2 spacers heaters now). Apparently, the frozen section is the part that is under the floor from the heater to the sink (pipes are above the floor from the sink to the tub).

*sigh*

272 Bubblehead II  Jan 11, 2015 5:33:47am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s a space heater in the bathroom (2 spacers heaters now). Apparently, the frozen section is the part that is under the floor from the heater to the sink (pipes are above the floor from the sink to the tub).

*sigh*

Any way to wrap them with heat tape and insulation to prevent this from happening in the future?

273 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 5:36:28am

And here’s what we have coming today and tomorrow:

re: #272 Bubblehead II

Any way to wrap them with heat tape and insulation to prevent this from happening in the future?

They are already wrapped in insulation.
I just wish our new house was finished. I won’t have this problem there.

274 ObserverArt  Jan 11, 2015 5:41:59am

re: #267 ipsos

Well, this is a conundrum. Like any right-thinking American, I hate the Cowboys and would dearly love to see them lose today. But the longer they stay alive, the more chances Chris Christie has to make a national ass of himself and decisively end whatever slim chance he had of being a 2016 contender, or at least helping to keep the GOP side hopelessly divided.

What to do?

You could go with similar thinking to Dark_Falcon.

If the Cowboys shoot their way to a win and it kills off a Christie run for president, then the Packers dying will still be seen as a heroic victory for America!

/

275 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 5:45:16am

re: #270 Bubblehead II

If the Cowboys win the Superbowl, Christie might come out of it looking better for having cheered for the winner.

Not that I think such a thing will happen. Even if they win today I don’t see Dallas getting past Seattle.

276 ObserverArt  Jan 11, 2015 5:47:54am

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

And here’s what we have coming today and tomorrow:

Interstate 70 runs right through the center of Columbus. As usual it is the line of demarcation in tonight’s and tomorrow’s war of temps and precipitation. We are forecast for a little bit of everything depending on where the temps move on that line.

I vote for snow. 1/8” of ice is never wanted!

277 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 6:07:14am

Oops:

Rifle Lost by Salem, N.H. Police Officer Returned Safely

An “embarrassed” New Hampshire police department said Wednesday that a semi-automatic rifle lost by an officer on Tuesday has been returned.

A rifle bag and all of its contents, including the rifle, were turned into the Salem Police Department by a Good Samaritan who saw on the news that an officer had driven off with the bag unsecured on the trunk of his cruiser.

“It is a tremendous relief, and we realize we still have a black eye. We own this. We made a mistake,” said Salem Lt. Joel Dolan.

SNIP

Police described the rifle as a Colt M4 Commando 5.56mm semi-automatic only patrol carbine with an 11.5-inch barrel.

278 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 11, 2015 6:11:11am

re: #250 Dark_Falcon

I wouldn’t say that. His resistance also helped the police catch 4 nasty thugs who’ll now be going away for life. You don’t have to survive to win a real victory.

Whenever anyone dies in gun violence, it is a Victory for the NRA and the Second Amendment, because it demonstrates that we are devoted to the RIght to Bear Arms

279 lawhawk  Jan 11, 2015 6:11:20am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. When I went to go get gas, I was surprised to find a station that had $1.99 per gallon for cash or credit, which is the first I’ve seen in Northern NJ in quite some time. Not going to look a gift horse in the mouth; that’s for sure.

Meanwhile, that little surprise is nothing when compared to this:

That’s the Old Faithful Webcam, and someone must have known where the camera was when they decided to take the plunge.

280 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 6:14:23am

re: #278 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

That wasn’t what I was saying and you damn well know it!

281 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 6:15:40am
282 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 11, 2015 6:18:54am

re: #280 Dark_Falcon

That wasn’t what I was saying and you damn well know it!

My Second Amendment trumps your dead schoolkids…

283 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 6:25:52am

re: #282 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And now you’re being an ass. Downding.

284 b_sharp  Jan 11, 2015 6:30:52am

re: #247 Dark_Falcon

Yes, there was: The co-owner of the store who fired on the robbers. He got hit in the exchange of gunfire, but was instrumental in stopping the robbery. I’d call that a win for the good guys.

Isn’t he dead?

285 PhillyPretzel  Jan 11, 2015 6:32:39am

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

I agree and very creative.

286 ObserverArt  Jan 11, 2015 6:32:42am

re: #280 Dark_Falcon

That wasn’t what I was saying and you damn well know it!

You are right. But it is what Wendell Zurkowitz (ralphieboy) said, and he never indicated it was your words.

Please don’t take this wrong Dark, but gun discussions always bring out the mother hen in you. We know that you are protective. But it is a discussion board and you have to admit, many people think just like ralphieboy, and since this is a democracy, those numbers are going to have an effect on gun issues in this country…sooner or later.

Well, that is if the gun lovers can allow actual democratic process to work. Sadly, if a majority elects people that change gun laws, I have a feeling the gun crowd will lose their shit over it.

If you are a true conservative, then you should be satisfied that the Constitutional process worked and then live with it.

287 b_sharp  Jan 11, 2015 6:32:56am

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I prefer Marshall

288 lawhawk  Jan 11, 2015 6:34:28am

re: #247 Dark_Falcon

Yes, there was: The co-owner of the store who fired on the robbers. He got hit in the exchange of gunfire, but was instrumental in stopping the robbery. I’d call that a win for the good guys.

The owner was shot and later died of his injuries. His wife was also injured (but not shot).

Despite the fact that he was armed, he was unable to save his own life. He was killed despite being heavily armed.

I wouldn’t say that there’s any upside from the incident as proof that being armed can save someone’s life.

289 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 6:36:35am

re: #286 ObserverArt

I think you misread the numbers. There’s not a hew and cry for gun control, not outside of the media and the left.

290 ObserverArt  Jan 11, 2015 6:37:23am

re: #287 b_sharp

I prefer Marshall

Vox!

We have an AC30 with the blue Alnico speakers and a AD100VT Valvetronix Modeling amp in our studio in my basement.

291 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 6:39:21am

re: #288 lawhawk

With respect, Lawhawk, he helped prevent the robbers from stealing guns they would have used to ill ends and the wounds he and his wife inflicted helped allow the police to catch them. Now those four assholes are all going to be going away from life.

Also, a pistol is not ‘heavily armed’.

292 b_sharp  Jan 11, 2015 6:39:48am

re: #288 lawhawk

The owner was shot and later died of his injuries. His wife was also injured (but not shot).

Despite the fact that he was armed, he was unable to save his own life. He was killed despite being heavily armed.

I wouldn’t say that there’s any upside from the incident as proof that being armed can save someone’s life.

Anybody have any idea why bullets started flying?

293 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 6:40:37am

re: #292 b_sharp

Anybody have any idea why bullets started flying?

Um, because 4 thugs pulled guns and tried to rob the place?

294 b_sharp  Jan 11, 2015 6:40:44am

re: #289 Dark_Falcon

I think you misread the numbers. There’s not a hew and cry for gun control, not outside of the media and the left.

The left is half of the population, or at least as large a proportion of the population as the right.

295 b_sharp  Jan 11, 2015 6:41:27am

re: #293 Dark_Falcon

Um, because 4 thugs pulled guns and tried to rob the place?

Who shot first?

296 PhillyPretzel  Jan 11, 2015 6:41:51am

re: #287 b_sharp

re: #290 ObserverArt

You can talk about your speakers if you choose, I still say that turning that security gate into something pleasant to look at is great.

297 lawhawk  Jan 11, 2015 6:43:31am

re: #291 Dark_Falcon

What part of he was killed do you not get? The guys could possibly still have been caught without his being shot and killed. While that’s unknowable but plausible, the knowable part is that he was killed. And he isn’t coming back. His wife will feel his loss for the rest of her life.

298 lawhawk  Jan 11, 2015 6:43:40am

re: #295 b_sharp

Han! /

299 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 6:43:56am

re: #295 b_sharp

Who shot first?

Unknown at this time.

300 ObserverArt  Jan 11, 2015 6:46:48am

re: #289 Dark_Falcon

I think you misread the numbers. There’s not a hew and cry for gun control, not outside of the media and the left.

We shall see. I said sooner or later.

Plus, numbers can be manipulated by poll questions. What numbers are you going with currently? Do they say absolutely no gun control measures. I thought numbers say the majority of America will accept some gun laws. Haven’t numbers shown even gun owners say they would accept sensible gun control?

And I like how you use hue and cry. You don’t like people that want gun control do you? Those words sort of diminish them to emotional wrecks without thought. It is far from that.

And remember…women make up the majority of this country. If women want gun control there will be gun control. And women are very protective of life. Call it nature.

301 ObserverArt  Jan 11, 2015 6:48:20am

re: #296 PhillyPretzel

You can talk about your speakers if you choose, I still say that turning that security gate into something pleasant to look at is great.

Oh no doubt. I was just teasing b_sharp over amp selection. I like Fenders too!

302 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 6:52:01am

re: #297 lawhawk

People really make too much out of being killed these days. Death is not the worst thing that can happen. Far worse is to be craven, to allow bad people to commit their misdeeds and victimize you when you could have acted decisively.

Yes, that store owner died. But at least his widow knows she had married a man who loved her enough to fight alongside her to protect the livelihood and honor and protect their community from 4 scumbags. He was killed, but he was not humiliated and dishonored.

I know many people will think that sort of sentiment is bullshit, and that’s their right to think so. But I don’t think its bullshit.

303 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 6:53:16am

O_o

304 ObserverArt  Jan 11, 2015 6:53:59am

Wow.

305 lawhawk  Jan 11, 2015 6:58:48am

US media outlets continue to ignore the whole situation, from the massacre of a reported 2,000 people at the hands of Boko Haram to the fact that the terror group now controls territory the size of Belgium. This isn’t some overhyped threat like the so-called Muslim wave sweeping over Europe where the perception that Muslims make up 30% of the population in France when it’s no more than 8%. Other countries see similar overestimations of Muslims as a percentage of the population.

Or that 98% of the terror attacks across Europe are non-Islamic terrorism derived.

We’re talking about an Islamic terror group that now controls a territory the size of Belgium. That’s a threat on par with ISIL in Syria/Iraq or the Taliban/AQ in Afghanistan/Pakistan. They are a huge regional threat, and one that may set its eyes beyond central Africa.

And yet, US media outlets can barely find the space to report on this.

NYT? No mention on website’s front page. FoxNews? Nothing. NBC News? 1 mention (below the fold in the investigations section). WSJ has a reference to Islamists in Nigeria, but doesn’t mention Boko Haram unless you click through - again below the fold).

CNN has a link, just below the fold.

306 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 11, 2015 7:00:16am

I just came back from a walk with friends, and find Dark’s most recent comments a bit distressing.

Given the choice between living and losing property or money, I wouldn’t hesitate to let the robber take what he wants. If my life were being threatened, or those of my loved ones, then I’d defend myself. Not for things.

307 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 11, 2015 7:01:47am

re: #305 lawhawk

Africa might just as well be on another planet. It’s one of the sore points among Africans of all colors that the rest of the world ignores them, until they need some valuable natural resource.

308 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 11, 2015 7:05:36am

Divers have found the black box of the Air Asia plane, so soon we’ll have some answers.

I bet UpChuck gave them a call and told them where to look.
//

309 PhillyPretzel  Jan 11, 2015 7:07:07am

re: #308 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Of course. He knows everything. //

310 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 7:08:22am

Hot water has returned (without any bursting of pipes)!

YAY!!!

311 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 11, 2015 7:08:35am

re: #309 PhillyPretzel

Of course. He knows everything. //

He used Google Earth, I’ll bet.

312 BigPapa  Jan 11, 2015 7:08:56am

re: #306 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

I just came back from a walk with friends, and find Dark’s most recent comments a bit distressing.

Given the choice between living and losing property or money, I wouldn’t hesitate to let the robber take what he wants. If my life were being threatened, or those of my loved ones, then I’d defend myself. Not for things.

Guns aren’t merely things. They are tokens of a greater meaning.

313 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 7:09:58am

re: #306 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

I just came back from a walk with friends, and find Dark’s most recent comments a bit distressing.

Given the choice between living and losing property or money, I wouldn’t hesitate to let the robber take what he wants. If my life were being threatened, or those of my loved ones, then I’d defend myself. Not for things.

If it had been an ordinary store, I’d agree Wheat Dogg. But this was a store that specialized in self-defense and firearms for women. Those thugs had come to steal weapons they intended to use either to hurt and intimidate people or to sell to other criminals who wanted to do that. To have let them take such things would have been the intolerable dishonor. Far better to fight and thereby ensure that others will not be harmed.

314 PhillyPretzel  Jan 11, 2015 7:10:06am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

Double Yay! I understand that very well.

315 BigPapa  Jan 11, 2015 7:10:15am

re: #308 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Divers have found the black box of the Air Asia plane, so soon we’ll have some answers.

I bet UpChuck gave them a call and told them where to look.
//

We need an UpChuck Bingo sheet. I want the ‘UpChuck knows and will say tonight’ and ‘UpChuck will claim story false and have proof’ squares.

316 ObserverArt  Jan 11, 2015 7:11:32am

re: #312 BigPapa

Guns aren’t merely things. They are tokens of a greater meaning.

I’ve never had a gun. My life must not have any meaning.

I am sad. I must not be a good moral American and manly man.

/

317 lawhawk  Jan 11, 2015 7:11:54am

re: #302 Dark_Falcon

Ummm.. there’s no way to know what he was thinking of - when he fired or returned fire on the would-be robbers. I honestly doubt he was thinking about the greater community, or that the guns might end up in the hands of other criminals. He was merely trying to keep his business from being robbed.

And his wife will still have a dead spouse to bury.

Humiliated? Dishonored? For what? Being the victim of an armed robbery? Thousands of people are alive and able to share time with their friends, families, and loved ones. The shame of being a victim of a crime? Those who have seen loved ones killed in homicides would more than willingly trade whatever humiliation or dishonor you think may exist there.

318 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 7:14:04am

re: #305 lawhawk

For the US media there’s no seen value in covering Boko Haram closely: Most of the violent problems are very complicated and require long-term solutions. But the US media is quite bad at explaining complicated problems and most Americans have little patience for long-term solutions.

319 lawhawk  Jan 11, 2015 7:17:11am

re: #318 Dark_Falcon

The media

No value? Nigeria is a major oil exporter. It’s ahead of Iran, Libya, Norway, Canada.

I guess if media decided to remind people of this, the story would get more play. But the same complications and long-term needs for solutions applies not only to Nigeria, but to the Middle East, South Asia, or any other places where Islamic terrorists have found lawless regions to spread.

320 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 11, 2015 7:17:23am

re: #318 Dark_Falcon

For the US media there’s no seen value in covering Boko Haram closely: Most of the violent problems are very complicated and require long-term solutions. But the US media is quite bad at explaining complicated problems and most Americans have little patience for long-term solutions.

Many Americans couldn’t find Nigeria on a map of the world. Some probably think Africans all speak Spanish.

321 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 7:18:03am

re: #315 BigPapa

We need an UpChuck Bingo sheet. I want the ‘UpChuck knows and will say tonight’ and ‘UpChuck will claim story false and have proof’ squares.

Other proposed spaces: ‘UpChuck ignores the facts to go after a woman’, ‘UpChuck engages in creepy stalker behavior’ and of course ‘Wheat Dogg PWNs UpChuck by exposing his lies.’

322 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 7:19:12am

re: #319 lawhawk

Dollar value, Lawhawk, not news value.

323 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 11, 2015 7:20:33am

re: #313 Dark_Falcon

If it had been an ordinary store, I’d agree Wheat Dogg. But this was a store that specialized in self-defense and firearms for women. Those thugs had come to steal weapons they intended to use either to hurt and intimidate people or to sell to other criminals who wanted to do that. To have let them take such things would have been the intolerable dishonor. Far better to fight and thereby ensure that others will not be harmed.

OK, I will grant he could have decided to protect his neighbors and tried to keep the thieves from stealing those weapons. That would be a noble thing to do. But he owned a store full of weapons and was still unable to protect himself and his wife from harm.

324 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 11, 2015 7:22:20am

re: #321 Dark_Falcon

Other proposed spaces: ‘UpChuck ignores the facts to go after a woman’, ‘UpChuck engages in creepy stalker behavior’ and of course ‘Wheat Dogg PWNs UpChuck by exposing his lies.’

I’m just joining in the party. gdf did an excellent debunking of UpChuck’s Pixel-gate (the photo of Prince Andrew and Virginia Roberts that UpChuck says is a fake).

325 ObserverArt  Jan 11, 2015 7:24:31am

We had a gun store/shooting range with rentals broken into up in Powell Ohio back a few years ago. Dudes took sledge hammers and broke through the back wall and walked out with a huge number of guns (the numbers were never really released to the public). The ATF was on that robbery the next morning and by the end of that week (4 days later) the dudes were all caught.

Apparently the ATF had people undercover working the streets and they bought one of the guns two days later. They worked over the people they got the guns from and two days later the police had an old apartment that was abandoned on Columbus’ west side surrounded with the majority of the guns inside.

To Dark’s point, one of the gang did use one of the guns in a really stupid gas station/convenience store robbery up in Dublin, shot and killed the attendant, and then got caught a little later. He too apparently gave up where the guns were too once the gun he used was traced back to the robbery.

Who knows. If we are talking ideals, what if there wasn’t such a demand for guns and there were not gun stores like the shop all this happened at. Then there would have been no robbery, no deaths and no guns on the street from a robbery. That may be a sentimental stance too…

326 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 7:27:20am

re: #324 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

I’m just joining in the party. gdf did an excellent debunking of UpChuck’s Pixel-gate (the photo of Prince Andrew and Virginia Roberts that UpChuck says is a fake).

True, but I’m eager to compose points of praise for GDF, because he hates me.

327 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 11, 2015 7:28:40am

re: #325 ObserverArt

We had a gun store/shooting range with rentals broken into up in Powell Ohio back a few years ago. Dudes took sledge hammers and broke through the back wall and walked out with a huge number of guns (the numbers were never really released to the public). The ATF was on that robbery the next morning and by the end of that week (4 days later) the dudes were all caught.

Apparently the ATF had people undercover working the streets and they bought one of the guns two days later. They worked over the people they got the guns from and two days later the police had an old apartment that was abandoned on Columbus’ west side surrounded with the majority of the guns inside.

To Dark’s point, one of the gang did use one of the guns in a really stupid gas station/convenience store robbery up in Dublin, shot and killed the attendant, and then got caught a little later. He too apparently gave up where the guns were too once the gun he used was traced back to the robbery.

Who knows. If we are talking ideals, what if there wasn’t such a demand for guns and there were not gun stores like the shop all this happened at. Then there would have been no robbery, no deaths and no guns on the street from a robbery. That may be a sentimental stance too…

Like that old joke attributed to Willie Sutton. When asked why he robbed banks, he said, “That’s where the money is.”

Snopes says Sutton never said it. I haz a sad. It’s such a clever comeback.

On a more serious note, I was thinking the same as you. If you put a lot of anything in one place — money, jewelry, fine watches, guns — it’s a magnet for evildoers who want that stuff for themselves. Guns have the disadvantage of being dangerous weapons that can be used to acquire even more stuff illegally.

Banks keep money and valuables in vaults. Jewelry stores have loads of alarms and surveillance cameras. I’m not sure how much security the typical mom-and-pop gun store has. I mean, aside from all the weapons and ammo sitting around.

328 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 7:35:23am
329 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 7:38:09am

I know folks here don’t like NR’s Kevin W. Williamson, so I’ll use donotlink for this next piece, but it’s very good in making a point that is unspokenly but profoundly anti-racist:

Being Human

‘The only news I care about,” came the thundering AM-radio voice, “is the news that they have been put down like the barnyard animals they are!” He was referring to the brothers Said and Cherif Kouachi, the murderous jihadists responsible for the murder of a dozen cartoonists, editors, police, and others at the offices of the Paris-based satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo. The two are indeed dead, as excellent a use as a few bullets were put to all week.

SNIP

But still, the Parisian jihadists were described as: “murderous animals,” “Muslim terrorist animals,” “animals who want to kill,” etc. The sentiment is understandable: that these sorts represent a danger, a mindless threat that must be dealt with lethally and pitilessly.

Even a rabid dog inspires a little sympathy — who blames the dog? But killing the brothers Kouachi pitilessly is not enough. We cannot kill them, and those like them, indifferently. We kill them with purpose — with judgment. We do not kill them because they are animals; we kill them because they are human beings.

Pretending that they are something else lets them — and us — off too easy.

330 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 11, 2015 7:48:48am

I’m calling it a night, folks. See y’all later on.

331 CleverToad  Jan 11, 2015 7:49:04am

re: #317 lawhawk

He that lived by the sword died by it. No victory here, only a sad karma.

For the glorious romantic notion of death before dishonor, there’s Lovelace, Richard: To Lucasta, On Going to the Wars. Then there’s the (slightly) more recent rebuttal from Paper Lace: Billy, Don’t be a Hero. Yes, there may be times in war where dying for your loved ones is necessary and noble. What’s going on in American streets isn’t necessary, noble or glorious. Or useful.

No upside that I can see. Maybe I’m not looking through the right filtered glasses.

332 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 7:53:41am
333 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 11, 2015 7:54:11am
334 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 11, 2015 7:57:29am

If it couldn’t be any clearer how detached from reality much of this country is, looking at photos of the rally in Paris today just proves it. When some fool goes off on a school/public mass shooting here in the US, we don’t bond together like that. Instead, we push one another further and further apart.

And many go out and buy more guns.

335 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 11, 2015 7:59:22am

re: #318 Dark_Falcon

Too bad that wasn’t the consensus in 2003. But instead, we went and blew Iraq to bits so they could see just how wonderful Democracy was.

336 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 11, 2015 8:07:36am

re: #329 Dark_Falcon

I’m very tempted to downding. Kevin Williamson is a vile animal that said that women having abortions should be murdered. It doesn’t matter how many good points he makes after that.

337 Dr. Matt  Jan 11, 2015 8:15:29am

Interesting trends:

338 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 11, 2015 8:16:59am

re: #337 Dr. Matt

Hopefully, it’s a matter of time.

339 Dr. Matt  Jan 11, 2015 8:19:40am

Impressive video of a massive 200 vehicle chain-reaction crash on an icy Michigan highway Post

340 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 11, 2015 8:24:04am

Joe Sacco’s cartoon is a silly mish-mash of lazy thinking and incorrect analogies. No wonder it’s so popular. CH cartoons were mocking Islam, but they weren’t anti-Muslim. Sacco’s “analogous” pictures are not similar at all - they’re anti-black and anti-Jewish.

341 Sionainn  Jan 11, 2015 8:26:23am

Personally, I’d rather have an alive husband than a dead husband.

342 Dr. Matt  Jan 11, 2015 8:27:28am

re: #341 Sionainn

Personally, I’d rather have an alive husband than a dead husband.

Ditto…..if I was gay…..

343 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 11, 2015 8:31:26am
“Today, everyone is saying: ‘We are all Charlie, I am Charlie.’ Well, I’m sorry, but I’m not Charlie,” [Jean-Marie] Le Pen said. “I am touched by the deaths of 12 French compatriots whose political identity I don’t even want to know - although I know it well enough already. These were the enemies of the FN who only recently demanded the party’s dissolution.”

ynetnews.com

344 Dark_Falcon  Jan 11, 2015 8:32:39am

re: #343 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

ynetnews.com

There she is, folks: Putin’s biggest fan in France.

345 Dr. Matt  Jan 11, 2015 8:33:03am
346 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 11, 2015 8:34:13am

re: #344 Dark_Falcon

There she is, folks: Putin’s biggest fan in France.

He. It’s the old neo-fascist Le Pen himself.

347 De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2015 8:35:46am
Anita Ekberg (September 29, 1931 - January 11, 2015) as a model on a billboard advertising milk come to life to torment a repressive prig in Fellini’s episode of the 1962 anthology Boccaccio ‘70
348 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 11, 2015 8:38:57am

I must say, I’m very satisfied with how DKos has handled this so far. I expected them to follow the far-left “but they were racist, fuck them!” line. Lots of posts and comments there are much more thoughtful than that.

349 darthstar  Jan 11, 2015 8:39:15am
350 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 11, 2015 8:40:52am

re: #348 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

dailykos.com

351 lawhawk  Jan 11, 2015 8:42:09am

re: #349 darthstar

J.K. Rowling has pitch perfect responses on a wide range of issues

352 HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2015 8:52:12am

re: #349 darthstar

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Oh snap. Well played Ms. Rowling, well played.

353 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 11, 2015 9:04:29am

Watching the Paris Unity rally/march. Really impressive and a heck of a public push back on the militants

354 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 11, 2015 9:06:03am

“But Colbert is a racist conservative!”

356 #FergusonFireside  Jan 11, 2015 9:19:02am

Off to work, raining Football Sunday. Hope I make bank!!!

See you later LGF!

357 BigPapa  Jan 11, 2015 9:22:52am

Thank you Sergey.

358 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 11, 2015 9:31:02am

The whole affair has shown that at least in the West most people stand against the killers, whether they like or condemn what CH did.

In Russia, on the other hand…

359 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 9:35:50am

Greta is such an idiot:

360 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 11, 2015 9:36:31am

re: #359 Backwoods_Sleuth

She would have probably condemned him if he went.

361 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 11, 2015 9:42:32am

Two more thoughts before I go.

1. “Free speech” is about lack of coercion by state or through illegal actions. One can wish that Rush Limbaugh or the Phelpses would shut the fuck up and claim to be for free speech without being hypocritical.

2. People who complain about different reactions to “a murder of a few people” and various massacres, current or historical, do have a point, but they’re also missing a few. First off, it has always been so; second, it’s whataboutism. Third, and the last: this is not so much about these particular murdered individuals. It’s about a principle that is one of the pillars of modern liberal democratic societies.

362 Dr. Matt  Jan 11, 2015 9:47:36am

Since when do US Presidents travel abroad to attend marches regarding murdered civilians?

363 thedopefishlives  Jan 11, 2015 9:51:32am

Morning/Afternoon Lizardim.

364 BeachDem  Jan 11, 2015 9:51:48am

And, as expected, David Brooks brought his usual stunning insight to the discussion about Paris, when he “splained” things as only a rich, white American can.

say you’re in college or you want to give money to bed nets. We give to clean water, all that anti-poverty stuff. The central anti-poverty program is law and order… Law and order always comes first.

crooksandliars.com

Haven’t seen what the starburst kid had to say, but I’m sure it was equally asinine.

365 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 11, 2015 10:00:32am

re: #361 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Two more thoughts before I go.

1. “Free speech” is about lack of coercion by state or through illegal actions. One can wish that Rush Limbaugh or the Phelpses shut the fuck up and claim to be for free speech without being hypocritical.

2. People who complain about different reactions to “a murder of a few people” and various massacres, current or historical, do have a point, but they’re also missing a few. First off, it has always been so; second, it’s whataboutism. Third, and the last: this is not so much about these particular murdered individuals. It’s about a principle that is one of the pillars of modern liberal democratic societies.

Agreed, and I never bought the logic that implies a moral inability to intervene in all places at anytime constrains a nation from intervening when deemed necessary or compelling. My fave-“Why not invade China they violate human rights blah blah” In what universe do wars, crisis and issues present themselves in an orderly logical manner?

366 Dr. Matt  Jan 11, 2015 10:05:01am
367 FemNaziBitch  Jan 11, 2015 10:23:54am

HOw is it now?

368 lawhawk  Jan 11, 2015 10:24:49am

re: #359 Backwoods_Sleuth

They’d turn around and complain he was over there and not spending every moment working on improving homeland security or putting cops into every mosque in the States (even as Sec. State Kerry was in Paris for security talks).

369 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 10:25:22am
370 FemNaziBitch  Jan 11, 2015 10:30:10am

re: #369 Backwoods_Sleuth

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because those who truly practice their faith love all of god’s creatures.

Namaste

371 bratwurst  Jan 11, 2015 10:30:45am

re: #329 Dark_Falcon

I know folks here don’t like NR’s Kevin W. Williamson

So you thoughtfully post a broken clock moment of his anyway.

372 Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2015 10:33:51am

re: #329 Dark_Falcon

Kevin Williamson is a far right lunatic who thinks women who have abortions should be executed by hanging. Does this matter to you at all?

373 Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2015 10:35:43am

Kevin Williamson is every bit as disgusting as the Islamists he’s denouncing. He’s a mirror image of them.

374 urbanmeemaw  Jan 11, 2015 10:44:40am

re: #152 ObserverArt

Didn’t he also perform “Hungry Eyes” in Dirty Dancing?

375 FemNaziBitch  Jan 11, 2015 10:45:07am

Helping kid complete FAFSA.

*groan*

376 BeenHereAwhile  Jan 11, 2015 10:47:35am

re: #231 Single-handed sailor

Her cousin Stu played for CCR.

Great tight band even when performing at large outdoor festivals.

377 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 11, 2015 10:49:53am

re: #373 Charles Johnson

Kevin Williamson is every bit as disgusting as the Islamists he’s denouncing. He’s a mirror image of them.

Like so many in the RW, Kevin Williamson’s enmity towards Islamists springs less from theology and more from the fact that they’re both working the same side of the street.

378 FemNaziBitch  Jan 11, 2015 10:50:59am

re: #372 Charles Johnson

Kevin Williamson is a far right lunatic who thinks women who have abortions should be executed by hanging. Does this matter to you at all?

Conservatives do not consider Women to be people.

379 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 11, 2015 10:51:58am

re: #269 darthstar

In a perfect world, both teams would lose today.

Cowboys’ losing is always the highest priority. If the Eagles ever needed the Cowboys to win a game to knock somebody else out of the playoffs, I just say wait til next year.

380 jaunte  Jan 11, 2015 10:52:53am

re: #362 Dr. Matt

Since when do US Presidents travel abroad to attend marches regarding murdered civilians?

381 urbanmeemaw  Jan 11, 2015 10:55:23am

re: #244 Backwoods_Sleuth

I hear some freezing rain/sleet is headed in our respective directions on Sunday into Monday.

382 urbanmeemaw  Jan 11, 2015 10:57:07am

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

I hope it heats up for you.

383 De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2015 10:57:55am

Change Moslems to Catholics, jihadists to the IRA, and Rupert Murdoch to Ian Paisley, and voila it’s The Troubles all over again.

384 A Cranky One  Jan 11, 2015 11:00:56am

The talk about CCR got this stuck in my head.

CCR- LODI.

385 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 11:05:11am

re: #381 urbanmeemaw

I hear some freezing rain/sleet is headed in our respective directions on Sunday into Monday.

I just came back from the barn, there’s some sort of less-than-liquid precipitation making “ticking” sounds as it falls…

386 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 11:09:34am

re: #382 urbanmeemaw

I hope it heats up for you.

It all ended well!

387 urbanmeemaw  Jan 11, 2015 11:10:51am

re: #385 Backwoods_Sleuth

Still quiet in metro Cincy. Sorry I posted replies to yours before scrolling through thread and seeing your statuses. Sigh.

388 FemNaziBitch  Jan 11, 2015 11:12:33am

Things aren’t so bad in my part of the world right now.

No visible snow.

389 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 11:20:06am

re: #388 FemNaziBitch

Things aren’t so bad in my part of the world right now.

No visible snow.

It’s looking like the worst of this storm is going to hit south/central Indiana and points west. I might get some rain/snow tomorrow (freezing rain advisory is in nearby counties, so I’m not counting that out just yet, especially since I heard sleet/freezing rain). Observer Art is gonna get the dreaded “wintry mix”.
MrBWS just headed back to Cincinnati for the week; radar is looking OK for his drive (for the moment).

390 unproven innocence  Jan 11, 2015 11:22:15am

re: #378 FemNaziBitch

Conservatives do not consider Women to be people.

Broad brush, imho.

391 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 11:23:54am
392 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 11:24:35am

re: #390 unproven innocence

Broad brush, imho.

Really? You could have fooled me.

393 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 11, 2015 11:25:50am

re: #270 Bubblehead II

Hope that the Cowboys hang on and Christie accepts even more tickets and plane rides and go’s down in a epic ethics scandal?

It’s New Jersey. You’re probably *required* to have an ethics scandal or two on your resume in order to be taken seriously.
//

394 jaunte  Jan 11, 2015 11:29:59am

re: #392 Backwoods_Sleuth

Really? You could have fooled me.

395 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 11:31:46am

re: #394 jaunte

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My shocked face…

396 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 11, 2015 11:31:54am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hot water has returned (without any bursting of pipes)!

YAY!!!

When I still had a house in western Pennsylvania my kitchen hot water pipe was prone to freezing. Ran across the top of the poorly heated garage and then up an exterior wall.

It would freeze when the cold water pipe next to it would not. I presume that the pipe had more calcium scale than the other and was the reason for the discrepancy. 40 year-old house with fairly poor exterior insulation compared to modern construction.

397 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 11:35:04am

re: #396 Feline Fearless Leader

When I still had a house in western Pennsylvania my kitchen hot water pipe was prone to freezing. Ran across the top of the poorly heated garage and then up an exterior wall.

It would freeze when the cold water pipe next to it would not. I presume that the pipe had more calcium scale than the other and was the reason for the discrepancy. 40 year-old house with fairly poor exterior insulation compared to modern construction.

Weird how that works. Sometimes the cold water pipe freezes, but most times it’s the hot water line, and they are right next to each other.
I was gobsmacked when it happened last night at ~25F, when I managed to keep everything from freezing earlier it the week at below zero.
Then I figured out it was probably a shift from a north wind to a south wind that did it (bathroom is on an exterior south-facing wall with a crawlspace vent right there).

398 ObserverArt  Jan 11, 2015 11:38:19am

re: #374 urbanmeemaw

Didn’t he also perform “Hungry Eyes” in Dirty Dancing?

Yes, he did. And, I did not know that until your comment. Thanks for adding to my pop music history.

Dang, just off of those two songs, I bet he still gets some decent royalty fees.

399 BeenHereAwhile  Jan 11, 2015 11:55:18am

re: #301 ObserverArt

Oh no doubt. I was just teasing b_sharp over amp selection. I like Fenders too!

400 retired cynic  Jan 11, 2015 11:57:56am

re: #369 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Don’t read the comments! OMG….

401 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2015 11:58:56am

re: #400 retired cynic

Don’t read the comments! OMG….

Sadly, I did…


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