And Now, the Right Wing Village People, Starring James O’Keefe
Oh brother. RT @JamesOKeefeIII: Thanks to all for applying for @Project_Veritas at #CPAC2015. pic.twitter.com/jLLnGXoy9z
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 2, 2015
Oh brother. RT @JamesOKeefeIII: Thanks to all for applying for @Project_Veritas at #CPAC2015. pic.twitter.com/jLLnGXoy9z
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 2, 2015
1 | Charles Johnson Mar 1, 2015 6:46:12pm |
Notice the backdrop with “Veritas” printed over and over.
2 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 1, 2015 6:46:22pm |
Reposting from downstairs
Chuck is such a goofball:
.@annamerlan Yep. Wrote about it in the Daily Beast. 23andMe and Me http://t.co/6SoFy5HBYo— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) March 2, 2015
And an addendum…CPAC was BORING!!!
@GARock945 No one really. It was a touch boring.— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) March 2, 2015
He should have just stayed home…
3 | freetoken Mar 1, 2015 6:47:39pm |
Little did anyone know that “CPAC” stands for CosPlay Amateurs’ Convention.
4 | retired cynic Mar 1, 2015 6:48:23pm |
re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth
Boring, except for that EPIC Breitbart party!
5 | Kragar Mar 1, 2015 6:48:28pm |
Based on O’Keefe’s record, at least one of those 3 women should be expecting harassing emails from Jimmy in the coming weeks.
6 | freetoken Mar 1, 2015 6:49:38pm |
re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth
CCJ’s wrong as usual:
“… then later followed up by banning the company outright …”
No, the FDA did not “outright” ban the 23andMe.
7 | goddamnedfrank Mar 1, 2015 6:50:29pm |
From the last week:
We have a story we’re going to release this coming week and I've never thought about this before but I am afraid for my life on this one.— James O'Keefe (@JamesOKeefeIII) February 21, 2015
SHARPTON RESPONDS saying when people in video contacted by other reporters they changed their story. Is that bc they are afraid of Sharpton?— James O'Keefe (@JamesOKeefeIII) February 24, 2015
Or it was just another deceptively edited, overly hyped pile of pure bullshit.
8 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 1, 2015 6:50:53pm |
re: #6 freetoken
CCJ’s wrong as usual:
No, the FDA did not “outright” ban the 23andMe.
I know that because I’m a 23andMe person.
9 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 1, 2015 6:51:43pm |
This O’Keefe CPAC photo is very interesting because of the three people on the right side of the photo.
Special guest at party tonight; Steven Bauer from Scarface pic.twitter.com/wD8qMTtgav— James O'Keefe (@JamesOKeefeIII) February 28, 2015
10 | Great White Snark Mar 1, 2015 6:54:02pm |
Ultra low rent reception/photo line LOL. Backdrop should be a couple feet taller and wider.
11 | Targetpractice Mar 1, 2015 6:56:07pm |
re: #7 goddamnedfrank
From the last week:
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Or it was just another deceptively edited, overly hyped pile of pure bullshit.
Is this about the whole “Sharpton’s after money” video?
13 | WhatEVs Mar 1, 2015 6:58:55pm |
Did they at least do YMCA? That was my favorite Village People song. @Green_Footballs @JamesOKeefeIII @Project_Veritas— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) March 2, 2015
14 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 1, 2015 6:59:08pm |
re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth
This O’Keefe CPAC photo is very interesting because of the three people on the right side of the photo.
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Hint: Streetwalker looking person at far right is “Dr. Gina Louden”.
Have fun googling her!
Oh, and the young thing is her 18-year-old daughter who is dating the pictured Steven Bauer (who is older than her father).
Family Values!
15 | goddamnedfrank Mar 1, 2015 6:59:31pm |
re: #11 Targetpractice
Is this about the whole “Sharpton’s after money” video?
Yep. Apparently James thought Al was going to have him snuffed out.
Because that’s a rational thing to be afraid of …
So fucking dumb.
17 | Romantic Heretic Mar 1, 2015 7:02:15pm |
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the face of the modern Right.
Pretty sad, isn’t it?
18 | #FergusonFireside Mar 1, 2015 7:03:38pm |
re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth
This O’Keefe CPAC photo is very interesting because of the three people on the right side of the photo.
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And his 19 year old girlfriend spawn of RWNJ
19 | #FergusonFireside Mar 1, 2015 7:04:20pm |
re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth
Hint: Streetwalker looking person at far right is “Dr. Gina Louden”.
Have fun googling her!Oh, and the young thing is her 18-year-old daughter who is dating the pictured Steven Bauer (who is older than her father).
Family Values!
So the mom is in on it too. So weird.
20 | WhatEVs Mar 1, 2015 7:05:00pm |
re: #17 Romantic Heretic
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the face of the modern Right.
Pretty sad, isn’t it?
Not just sad. It’s weird. Deeply weird.
Between Tri corner hats, American flag clothing and the above mentioned Cosplay, it’s more a SciFi convention.
Loved the girl with handcuffs, though. #FiftyShadesOfConservatism
21 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 1, 2015 7:05:04pm |
22 | Targetpractice Mar 1, 2015 7:05:10pm |
re: #15 goddamnedfrank
Yep. Apparently James thought Al was going to have him snuffed out.
Because that’s a rational thing to be afraid of …
So fucking dumb.
I think it’s telling of how little attention he garners anymore that the video didn’t get attention outside the wingnut haunts.
23 | #FergusonFireside Mar 1, 2015 7:07:09pm |
re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth
And Mom is BFF with Sarah Palin.
It’s almost like she pimped out her daughter. Bauer looks more into Gina & she’s more his type.
Weird as fuck.
24 | WhatEVs Mar 1, 2015 7:07:50pm |
re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth
And Mom is BFF with Sarah Palin.
I’m shocked. Shocked, I say.
Actually, I’m shocked not in the least. I could see Sarah (from my house!) wearing every one of those costumes.
25 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 1, 2015 7:07:55pm |
re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth
Hint: Streetwalker looking person at far right is “Dr. Gina Louden”.
Have fun googling her!Oh, and the young thing is her 18-year-old daughter who is dating the pictured Steven Bauer (who is older than her father).
Family Values!
Who is the zombie-looking thing in the white sweater and the pushed-up boobs?
27 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 1, 2015 7:09:13pm |
re: #23 #FergusonFireside
It’s almost like she pimped out her daughter. Bauer looks more into Gina & she’s more his type.
Weird as fuck.
It gets weirder (and more disgusting)…Dr Gina adopted a Down Syndrome child and uses him for her pro-life creds.
Dr. Gina thought it was hilarious that her adopted son was mistaken for Trig backstage at a Palin event a few years ago.
28 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 1, 2015 7:09:56pm |
re: #25 The Mother Of All Pies
Who is the zombie-looking thing in the white sweater and the pushed-up boobs?
No idea (and I’m kinda relieved that I don’t know)
29 | #FergusonFireside Mar 1, 2015 7:10:47pm |
re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth
It gets weirder (and more disgusting)…Dr Gina adopted a Down Syndrome child and uses him for her pro-life creds.
Dr. Gina thought it was hilarious that her adopted son was mistaken for Trig backstage at a Palin event a few years ago.
They all want to be Kim Kardashian or something. Just picking the RWNJ route.
31 | #FergusonFireside Mar 1, 2015 7:12:01pm |
So if you see a Jewish guy who looks like me in public in Southern California, it could be me. So if I smile, you can smile back.
— Lee Weissman (@JihadiJew) March 2, 2015
32 | WhatEVs Mar 1, 2015 7:12:01pm |
33 | ObserverArt Mar 1, 2015 7:13:12pm |
re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth
Hint: Streetwalker looking person at far right is “Dr. Gina Louden”.
Have fun googling her!Oh, and the young thing is her 18-year-old daughter who is dating the pictured Steven Bauer (who is older than her father).
Family Values!
Her name seems to be spelled Loudon. Just did a Google search.
34 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 1, 2015 7:15:20pm |
re: #33 ObserverArt
Her name seems to be spelled Loudon. Just did a Google search.
yep…typo on my part…I had kittehs helping.
35 | Maddies Mom Mar 1, 2015 7:15:38pm |
re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth
And Mom is BFF with Sarah Palin.
Ms. Loudon may have had a hand in dressing Ms. Palin for the big event. La Palin has been known to wear the clothing of others (<cough> Bristol <cough>).
37 | Eclectic Cyborg Mar 1, 2015 7:19:19pm |
The only thing missing from the photo is a drunk ass CCJ.
38 | #FergusonFireside Mar 1, 2015 7:20:08pm |
CL’s creepy head busts still showing up for me. Muchas Gracias.
39 | Mattand Mar 1, 2015 7:21:08pm |
Throwing in my vote for renaming the people in the photo “The Village Idiot People”.
Also kinda funny how James O’Keefe and CCJ pretty much write the same Tweets: overuse of the royal “we” and proclivity towards paranoia (“I’ll be assanianted because I’ve spoken the TRUTH™!!!!”)
40 | Shiplord Kirel Mar 1, 2015 7:21:37pm |
Conservative citizens group or bondage meet-up? You be the judge!
41 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 1, 2015 7:23:32pm |
re: #37 Eclectic Cyborg
The only thing missing from the photo is a drunk ass CCJ.
He’s behind the curtain, squatting on the floor.
42 | Varek Raith Mar 1, 2015 7:23:49pm |
43 | Great White Snark Mar 1, 2015 7:24:41pm |
re: #30 ObserverArt
Oh hey BTW I did see your comment on the general discourse, how it goes with guns etc. You had logged out when I saw the comment. Yeah, I get ya. Gotta do better than what we have.
44 | ObserverArt Mar 1, 2015 7:24:45pm |
Heh. Google took me to this link at some St. Louis AM radio site. Check out these Dr. Gina Loudon rave endorsements. Quite the crew.
“The conservatives’ secret weapon—a double-edged sword. She is adorably disarming, and masterfully brilliant-A rising star in America’s renewal.”
-Wiliam Federer. Author, speaker, historian, American Patriot“She’s gorgeous! And she fights the good fight!”
-Pamela Geller, founder Atlas Shrugs, author, commentator“A reliable source of truth…a voice of clarity, wisdom and understanding about [the] issues.”
-Congressman Todd Akin (R-MO)“She not only knows the issues…she lives them!”
-Wendy Wright, Concerned Women for America
45 | Shiplord Kirel Mar 1, 2015 7:24:47pm |
Conservative base or Walking Dead extras call?
46 | Nyet Mar 1, 2015 7:25:32pm |
re: #38 #FergusonFireside
CL’s creepy head busts still showing up for me. Muchas Gracias.
The stealthy Jihaaaaaad!
47 | #FergusonFireside Mar 1, 2015 7:28:10pm |
re: #43 Great White Snark
Hey, did you see the LAPD killing of the homeless dude yet? I have a feeling it’s where you pass by on your commute.
48 | Belafon Mar 1, 2015 7:28:11pm |
re: #30 ObserverArt
So, O’Keefe is doing porn now?
/
As I said in the last post, it’s the cast of Dildos on a Boat.
49 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 1, 2015 7:28:48pm |
re: #44 ObserverArt
Heh. Google took me to this link at some St. Louis AM radio site. Check out these Dr. Gina Loudon rave endorsements. Quite the crew.
yeppers, that’s her.
50 | Great White Snark Mar 1, 2015 7:31:56pm |
re: #47 #FergusonFireside
Yeah. looks awful. It’s some blocks from my commute. But frightening in any case. Gun? What gun?
51 | #FergusonFireside Mar 1, 2015 7:33:51pm |
re: #50 Great White Snark
Yeah. looks awful. It’s some blocks from my commute. But frightening in any case. Gun? What gun?
9 cops. They are not getting away with this anymore. Too bad a dead guy has to go first.
52 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 1, 2015 7:33:52pm |
Woodstove loaded, rain threatening to turn into snow or worse.
I’m off to nap for a few short hours…
Back in a few…
54 | #FergusonFireside Mar 1, 2015 7:37:08pm |
Worked all weekend. Tired. Need a good start tomorrow. Want to stay up for The Walking Dead.
My first world prob, and yes, it’s hard.
56 | FemNaziBitch Mar 1, 2015 7:38:49pm |
re: #54 #FergusonFireside
Worked all weekend. Tired. Need a good start tomorrow. Want to stay up for The Walking Dead.
My first world prob, and yes, it’s hard.
This is how I feel with my computer/smart phone issues.
Yet, I don’t get out and about the way I used to and felt totally disconnected from the world without my electronics this weekend.
57 | Mattand Mar 1, 2015 7:39:10pm |
re: #40 Shiplord Kirel
Conservative citizens group or bondage meet-up? You be the judge!
50 Shades of Nay.
58 | #FergusonFireside Mar 1, 2015 7:40:16pm |
59 | PhillyPretzel Mar 1, 2015 7:41:11pm |
OT: I just updated my Downton Abbey page. There will be a season 6.
60 | FemNaziBitch Mar 1, 2015 7:41:45pm |
Tamir Rice 'directly and proximately' responsible for own police shooting death, says city http://t.co/UlgW42ARUe— The Guardian (@guardian) March 1, 2015
*spit*
61 | Eclectic Cyborg Mar 1, 2015 7:42:03pm |
Remember the good old days when Glenn Beck was the craziest nutbar on the right?
62 | Targetpractice Mar 1, 2015 7:42:43pm |
re: #60 FemNaziBitch
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*spit*
Why does it not surprise me, stuck defending the monumental cock-up of their own police department, their only defense is to blame the victim for his own death?
64 | #FergusonFireside Mar 1, 2015 7:43:36pm |
re: #60 FemNaziBitch
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*spit*
In an open carry state no less.
B U L L S H I T.
they will cover their asses in hell.
65 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 1, 2015 7:43:46pm |
I went Googling for CPAC photos. Found this one. These people look like they’d be more fun that the American CPAC.
66 | Mattand Mar 1, 2015 7:43:58pm |
re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth
Hint: Streetwalker looking person at far right is “Dr. Gina Louden”.
Have fun googling her!
The quick two line summaries Google puts in their results were enough. My Derp Meter was pegging just from reading those.
Oh, and the young thing is her 18-year-old daughter who is dating the pictured Steven Bauer (who is older than her father).
Family Values!
Conservative cognitive dissonance is like how a poisonous snake is immune to its own venom.
67 | nines09 Mar 1, 2015 7:47:16pm |
It’s the Billage Peoples about to break into a rousing toe tapping rendition ’ GAAA -G - OH- PEE……,..Shilling for the GAAA-GEE- OH-PEE. …..
68 | ObserverArt Mar 1, 2015 7:49:53pm |
As an Ohioan and frequent visitor to Cleveland, I have to say that BS to cover the police butts in the lawsuit is pathetic. That department has had its problems in the past. They will be taken to task over this and their past history and the already exposed hiring practices that led to the cop’s hire is going to hurt them.
Did I hear somewhere along the line something about the feds stepping in due to past corruption and looking into the whole department? I think there is enough for them to look at them.
70 | Varek Raith Mar 1, 2015 7:50:33pm |
Apparently, kids are supposed to dodge bullets.
Or something.
71 | #FergusonFireside Mar 1, 2015 7:51:26pm |
re: #68 ObserverArt
As an Ohioan and frequent visitor to Cleveland, I have to say that BS to cover the police butts in the lawsuit is pathetic. That department has had its problems in the past. They will be taken to task over this and their past history and the already exposed hiring practices that led to the cop’s hire is going to hurt them.
Did I hear somewhere along the line something about the feds stepping in due to past corruption and looking into the whole department? I think there is enough for them to look at them.
I think so. Police departments across the country are very very concerned. Of being investigated. Therefore, be very aware if you are pulled over.
72 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 1, 2015 7:52:27pm |
re: #70 Varek Raith
Apparently, kids are supposed to dodge bullets.
Or something.
Only bad guys get hit by bullets. The good guys, never, or maybe just get a flesh wound.
I saw in a movie once.
75 | #FergusonFireside Mar 1, 2015 7:53:26pm |
re: #71 #FergusonFireside
I think so. Police departments across the country are very very concerned. Of being investigated. Therefore, be very aware if you are pulled over.
Being pulled over. That’s how the last St. Louis Co. killing occurred (yesterday or the day before) Driving violation. (tags? tail light? failed to blink long enough?) You dead.
77 | Targetpractice Mar 1, 2015 7:54:49pm |
Here’s the City of Cleveland’s answer to the complaint (pdf) for the legal eagles in the LGF ranks. But really, what I’m seeing is the City is A) trying to stall for time by saying it doesn’t know the particulars of the case because it tossed the whole kit and kaboodle to the Cuyahoga County Sheriff’s Dept and B) argue that any damages were totally the fault of the victim and his family.
78 | Gus Mar 1, 2015 7:54:54pm |
Today I am pleased to report on specific initiatives that have been advanced in the past month by my Cabinet-level climate change working group. These initiatives represent important steps in putting our principles to work through partnerships with other nations, industry and non-governmental organizations. They are designed to increase our scientific understanding of climate change, to tap the enormous promise of technology in addressing greenhouse gas emissions, and to promote further cooperation on climate change with our partners in the Western Hemisphere and beyond.
79 | A Cranky One Mar 1, 2015 7:54:59pm |
re: #38 #FergusonFireside
CL’s creepy head busts still showing up for me. Muchas Gracias.
I posted some links to wombat toys. Clicked on them a few times and the creepy head busts disappeared. ;)
80 | Kragar Mar 1, 2015 7:56:42pm |
re: #71 #FergusonFireside
I think so. Police departments across the country are very very concerned. Of being investigated. Therefore, be very aware if you are pulled over.
If stand your ground laws have taught us anything, its that the subsequent investigations go much more smoothly when only one party is still alive to go on record.
81 | #FergusonFireside Mar 1, 2015 7:57:49pm |
I can go on and on. But I drive a rough commute every day. And every day in the midst of the jam, there’s a cop pulling over a poor sap (old saying) just someone with a busted tail light. I’m pissed because they quadrupled the back up, and because it’s bullshit targeting of $200.00 to the poor guy, & that ticket will probably mean no food for his kids.
82 | jaunte Mar 1, 2015 8:00:51pm |
re: #78 Gus
“…In many cases, their scope is international, reflecting the fact that both the problem and solutions for climate change extend beyond the borders of any one nation. And they represent the kind of investments in scientific and technological knowledge on which real progress on this long-term challenge must be based.”
Fuzzy-minded one-worlder RINO!
84 | Gus Mar 1, 2015 8:01:20pm |
85 | Charles Johnson Mar 1, 2015 8:01:25pm |
Twitter tells CNBC it is investigating online reports of ISIS threats towards its co-founder Jack Dorsey & employees. pic.twitter.com/ag6rjip09u— CNBC Now (@CNBCnow) March 2, 2015
87 | Charles Johnson Mar 1, 2015 8:02:56pm |
Twitter apparently does take some threats seriously after all.
88 | Targetpractice Mar 1, 2015 8:03:02pm |
One other thing to bear in mind is that “He’s responsible for his own death!” is an affirmative defense, as in the City of Cleveland’s lawyers are actually going to have to pull together experts and witnesses who’ll take the stand and argue that a 12 year old boy would still be alive today had he instinctively known to drop his toy and hit the ground the moment a cop car came screeching to a halt in front of him.
89 | Kragar Mar 1, 2015 8:03:53pm |
re: #87 Charles Johnson
Twitter apparently does take some threats seriously after all.
Its good to be the king.
90 | Great White Snark Mar 1, 2015 8:04:05pm |
re: #85 Charles Johnson
Did they suspend the account yet?
\
91 | #FergusonFireside Mar 1, 2015 8:05:51pm |
re: #88 Targetpractice
Wasn’t Tamir 6’8” too? Gah, it is too too much.
93 | Kragar Mar 1, 2015 8:06:24pm |
re: #88 Targetpractice
One other thing to bear in mind is that “He’s responsible for his own death!” is an affirmative defense, as in the City of Cleveland’s lawyers are actually going to have to pull together experts and witnesses who’ll take the stand and argue that a 12 year old boy would still be alive today had he instinctively known to drop this toy and hit the ground the moment a cop car came screeching to a halt in front of him.
Cleveland’s announcement basically just said you need to treat cops like they’re going to kill you at any moment, even if you’re just sitting their playing around.
94 | Varek Raith Mar 1, 2015 8:06:53pm |
95 | Charles Johnson Mar 1, 2015 8:08:44pm |
Good idea, Babycakes. You could start by detecting people who steal photos and put their watermarks on them. Like, uh, you. @ChuckCJohnson— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 2, 2015
96 | jaunte Mar 1, 2015 8:10:36pm |
re: #95 Charles Johnson
He’s seriously asking for a media hack detector. Amazing.
98 | #FergusonFireside Mar 1, 2015 8:11:16pm |
100 | Charles Johnson Mar 1, 2015 8:12:30pm |
re: #96 jaunte
He’s seriously asking for a media hack detector. Amazing.
He’s completely oblivious to how hypocritical he looks.
101 | #FergusonFireside Mar 1, 2015 8:13:26pm |
I’m still popping into the Todd Rundgren concert. 1/2 way thru. And he is really at his best.
102 | Romantic Heretic Mar 1, 2015 8:14:26pm |
re: #40 Shiplord Kirel
Conservative citizens group or bondage meet-up? You be the judge!
Conservative citizens group.
The kink community acts very vanilla in public, plus we don’t like to have our pictures taken. Most of us have employers who would not react well to our sexual proclivities.
With the nutbars in the picture, well, the people they work for know exactly what they are, and approve. Or at least find them useful.
103 | Gus Mar 1, 2015 8:15:51pm |
The George W. Bush White House went from supporting climate change mitigation to repressing climate change science. From agencies.— Gus (@Gus_802) March 2, 2015
105 | Gus Mar 1, 2015 8:17:17pm |
5 Things You Need to Know About the U.S.-#Israel Relationship Under President Obama http://t.co/DLBmM8fwFr— WH National Security (@NSCPress) March 1, 2015
106 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 1, 2015 8:19:16pm |
re: #96 jaunte
He’s seriously asking for a media hack detector. Amazing.
Such a device would self-destruct as soon as it got within 2 feet of him.
107 | Gus Mar 1, 2015 8:25:48pm |
The personal attacks against Susan Rice, my colleague at the UN, are not only unfair but repugnant in their violence. A great US diplomat.— Gérard Araud (@GerardAraud) March 1, 2015
108 | RealityBasedSteve Mar 1, 2015 8:26:44pm |
re: #106 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
Such a device would self-destruct as soon as it got within 2 feet of him.
It’s like the time I was at Home Depot and accidently walked by the the display of stud detectors.
/rimshot
RBS
Enjoy the veal.
109 | Mentis Fugit Mar 1, 2015 8:27:32pm |
re: #96 jaunte
He’s seriously asking for a media hack detector. Amazing.
He has one hanging on his wall. If he shaved, he’d have found it.
110 | BeachDem Mar 1, 2015 8:27:39pm |
re: #95 Charles Johnson
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Mr. Super Researcher could have just gone to Mashable:
Use These 10 Sites to Detect Plagiarism
111 | #FergusonFireside Mar 1, 2015 8:36:51pm |
There is something beautiful about stating an opinion by saying “I could be wrong.. but…” Its an expression of humility.
— Lee Weissman (@JihadiJew) March 2, 2015
112 | teleskiguy Mar 1, 2015 8:37:15pm |
Evening Lizards.
So, Bibi Netanyahu is speaking in front of Congress on Tuesday. Helluva campaign stop.
113 | #FergusonFireside Mar 1, 2015 8:40:02pm |
re: #112 teleskiguy
Hey guy, hope you are feeling fine. If I could request you follow me on the twit. @michellevista
114 | Targetpractice Mar 1, 2015 8:40:16pm |
re: #112 teleskiguy
Evening Lizards.
So, Bibi Netanyahu is speaking in front of Congress on Tuesday. Helluva campaign stop.
Like I said earlier, you have to almost pity the GOP, as they seem to have orchestrated this week to be utter hell for them. Monday they’ve got a cloture vote in the Senate that Democrats will likely filibuster, meaning there’s no chance of keeping the House DHS bill alive. Bibi speaks on Tuesday, which will lead to fallout. And Friday is the deadline for DHS funding under the stopgap bill.
115 | goddamnedfrank Mar 1, 2015 8:41:02pm |
@trueblueTEX @SuperAaronBurr yes, so like, take a sentence, compare to everything written prior, and then read through the report.— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) March 2, 2015
It’s been done, we call it turnitin.com, buy a membership.
116 | teleskiguy Mar 1, 2015 8:41:51pm |
re: #114 Targetpractice
It’s their M.O. They don’t want to govern. They want to dismantle government.
117 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Mar 1, 2015 8:43:01pm |
re: #115 goddamnedfrank
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It’s been done, we call it turnitin.com, buy a membership.
These Young Conservatives are so Internet-savvy!
118 | teleskiguy Mar 1, 2015 8:46:29pm |
Hey guy, hope you are feeling fine.
I feel good. It’ll be seven days sans alcohol tomorrow.
Skiing was fun today, I got illy with it and I gave a short lesson. It has snowed every day the last four days up in the mountains, so skiing is nice.
I also started journaling yesterday. Filled out three pages. Haven’t written in it today, I worked and skied, just got home a half hour ago.
119 | BeachDem Mar 1, 2015 8:49:04pm |
re: #112 teleskiguy
Evening Lizards.
So, Bibi Netanyahu is speaking in front of Congress on Tuesday. Helluva campaign stop.
Frankly, I’d rather hear Bebe Neuwirth speak.
120 | Targetpractice Mar 1, 2015 8:49:22pm |
And the House GOP leadership are only adding fuel to the fire. Boehner is saying he wants to “negotiate,” forgetting that pounding on that back in 2013 only highlighted just how ridiculous the GOP’s position was. McCarthy ups the stupidity quotient not by calling for the “nuclear option,” but going forward to argue that it “57%” of the Senate approves of a bill so it should pass, ignoring six years of Republican arguments that the filibuster was practically glad in gold. And Scalise, to top off this shit sandwich, is telling folks that no deal was made to bring the Senate DHS bill to a vote, contrary to what both Pelosi and Reid are saying was the terms of agreeing to support a one-week stopgap.
121 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Mar 1, 2015 8:49:37pm |
122 | #FergusonFireside Mar 1, 2015 8:49:40pm |
re: #118 teleskiguy
I feel good. It’ll be seven days sans alcohol tomorrow.
Skiing was fun today, I got illy with it and I gave a short lesson. It has snowed every day the last four days up in the mountains, so skiing is nice.
I also started journaling yesterday. Filled out three pages. Haven’t written in it today, I worked and skied, just got home a half hour ago.
We have your back. Big time.
123 | Jenner7 Mar 1, 2015 8:50:04pm |
What will happen if the cop who murdered Tamir gets away with it?
124 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 1, 2015 8:51:48pm |
re: #115 goddamnedfrank
It’s been done, we call it turnitin.com, buy a membership.
Even a text search with Google will work at least 75% of the time. I’ve used it to check my students’ papers.
125 | #FergusonFireside Mar 1, 2015 8:52:32pm |
re: #123 Jenner7
What will happen if the cop who murdered Tamir gets away with it?
Protests to dismantle the whole fucking thing. It is out of control and thank dog to social media, it’s hitting the people’s reality.
Before, always hidden in some local paper, no one cared, cops were justified.
No More.
126 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 1, 2015 8:52:36pm |
re: #118 teleskiguy
I feel good. It’ll be seven days sans alcohol tomorrow.
Skiing was fun today, I got illy with it and I gave a short lesson. It has snowed every day the last four days up in the mountains, so skiing is nice.
I also started journaling yesterday. Filled out three pages. Haven’t written in it today, I worked and skied, just got home a half hour ago.
This is a great news! Keep it up, bud!
127 | RealityBasedSteve Mar 1, 2015 8:54:24pm |
re: #124 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
Even a text search with Google will work at least 75% of the time. I’ve used it to check my students’ papers.
Darn kids now. I remember when we had to order them from the back of Rolling Stone.
RBS
128 | teleskiguy Mar 1, 2015 8:57:46pm |
I know the word “epic” is kind of a stupid word, but I’ve skied epic powder (See? I used the word correctly there) so I take license with “epic” in this here tweet.
Watch the epic obstruction! GOP dismantling gov't! RT @Green_Footballs: This coming week is shaping up to be a major nightmare for the GOP.— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) March 2, 2015
129 | Targetpractice Mar 1, 2015 9:00:03pm |
I think what might put the cherry on top of it all would be Dems taking their designated seats on Tuesday, then getting up as one and walking out as Bibi takes the podium. Would not only make their disapproval public, but it would also prevent Boehner from going ahead with his plan to stuff the empty seats with GOP staffers.
130 | #FergusonFireside Mar 1, 2015 9:00:58pm |
Made it to the Walking Dead. (usually in bed by now) Gonna enjoy/cry/gag
See ya’ll tomorrow!
131 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 1, 2015 9:02:03pm |
re: #127 RealityBasedSteve
Darn kids now. I remember when we had to order them from the back of Rolling Stone.
RBS
Oh, you can still order papers, but now you can do it online, too. There are “services” that are pretty obvious about what they’re selling, and writers who generate papers and theses for money. One of those writers wrote an exposé about it a while ago for The Chronicle of Higher Education. chronicle.com
132 | goddamnedfrank Mar 1, 2015 9:02:05pm |
Made it to the Walking Dead. (usually in bed by now) Gonna enjoy/cry/gag
See ya’ll tomorrow!
The reason I hate The Walking Dead is because it’s just like Glee …
133 | Kragar Mar 1, 2015 9:05:19pm |
As a Navy SEAL, I defended freedom and liberty for 20 years… Why is it being dismantled? http://t.co/9sAG0oA94A pic.twitter.com/PjClnKEvJy— Kristin Beck (@TheLadyValor) March 2, 2015
134 | RealityBasedSteve Mar 1, 2015 9:10:21pm |
re: #131 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
Oh, you can still order papers, but now you can do it online, too. There are “services” that are pretty obvious about what they’re selling, and writers who generate papers and theses for money. One of those writers wrote an exposé about it a while ago for The Chronicle of Higher Education. chronicle.com
Looks like a good article. I’ve bookmarked it for later enjoyment.
RBS
135 | Kragar Mar 1, 2015 9:11:18pm |
5-time-married Texas lawmaker scrawls complaint against judge who allowed same-sex marriage http://t.co/Y224y7hIo1— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) March 2, 2015
136 | Targetpractice Mar 1, 2015 9:12:50pm |
So apparently I’m going to wake up in a few hours to wingnuts bombarding me with links about how the President threatened to shoot Israel planes out of the sky if they tried to bomb Iran. And the source for this is a Kuwaiti newspaper with “unnamed sources” which managed to scoop every other major newspaper in the Western hemisphere. If I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d think this was well-timed for Bibi’s speech…
137 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Mar 1, 2015 9:13:39pm |
re: #135 Kragar
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So SSM sets us on the Slippery Slope™ to polygamy, but serial polygamy is OK? Just checking.
138 | RealityBasedSteve Mar 1, 2015 9:20:44pm |
re: #137 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
So SSM sets us on the Slippery SlopeTM to polygamy, but serial polygamy is OK? Just checking.
Serial poly is good, Parallel poly is bad.
RBS
139 | retired cynic Mar 1, 2015 9:22:04pm |
re: #138 RealityBasedSteve
Serial poly is good, Parallel poly is bad.
RBS
Serial poly is way too much trouble!
140 | SteveMcGaziBolaGate Mar 1, 2015 9:22:51pm |
My daughter traveled from Philadelphia to Boston this weekend with her friend’s family. They left Boston today around 3 ish and as of midnight they were still in CT.
141 | Lidane Mar 1, 2015 9:23:56pm |
Conservative Blogs Explode over 'Report' Obama Threatened to Shoot Down Israeli Planes http://t.co/8fWGVb1IGz (By @DanAbrams)— Mediaite (@Mediaite) March 2, 2015
142 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 1, 2015 9:24:51pm |
re: #134 RealityBasedSteve
Looks like a good article. I’ve bookmarked it for later enjoyment.
RBS
It is, and he highlights the root causes of plagiarism — under-prepared students, lack of instruction and counseling at their institutions, and indifference by instructors.
Some universities have a turnitin.com account, and every student has to submit their papers in electronic form, which the profs (or graduate assistants) run through Turnitin. If it passed muster, they’ll read the paper and grade it.
I’ve grown so accustomed to the educational climate in China that I assume a student has plagiarized his/her paper, and then will be pleasantly surprised when it’s original. Most of the problem here comes from lack of practice in writing research papers. Kids in China never have this kind of assignment till they reach university, and once at uni, are given next to no instruction on how to do it. I taught two terms of academic writing. It was a nightmare, believe me.
143 | Lidane Mar 1, 2015 9:30:26pm |
re: #142 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
I lived and died by Turnitin in both undergrad and grad school. My professors wouldn’t even look at a paper that wasn’t sent to them through Turnitin. It wasn’t optional, even for my undergrad thesis.
144 | Eclectic Cyborg Mar 1, 2015 9:32:13pm |
re: #115 goddamnedfrank
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It’s been done, we call it turnitin.com, buy a membership.
“Everything written prior”, yeah that’s not overly broad at ALL.
145 | SteveMcGaziBolaGate Mar 1, 2015 9:33:08pm |
re: #140 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
She just crossed the Tappan Zee Bridge.
146 | Eclectic Cyborg Mar 1, 2015 9:33:18pm |
re: #118 teleskiguy
I feel good. It’ll be seven days sans alcohol tomorrow.
Skiing was fun today, I got illy with it and I gave a short lesson. It has snowed every day the last four days up in the mountains, so skiing is nice.
I also started journaling yesterday. Filled out three pages. Haven’t written in it today, I worked and skied, just got home a half hour ago.
Great to hear my friend. Keep at it. Journaling is one of my favourite forms of self therapy.
147 | Eclectic Cyborg Mar 1, 2015 9:33:47pm |
re: #135 Kragar
For some reason the word “scrawls” made me think of crayons.
148 | SteveMcGaziBolaGate Mar 1, 2015 9:33:52pm |
re: #141 Lidane
I would be impressed that Israeli planes could reach Iran.
149 | RealityBasedSteve Mar 1, 2015 9:35:08pm |
re: #142 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
It is, and he highlights the root causes of plagiarism — under-prepared students, lack of instruction and counseling at their institutions, and indifference by instructors.
Some universities have a turnitin.com account, and every student has to submit their papers in electronic form, which the profs (or graduate assistants) run through Turnitin. If it passed muster, they’ll read the paper and grade it.
I’ve grown so accustomed to the educational climate in China that I assume a student has plagiarized his/her paper, and then will be pleasantly surprised when it’s original. Most of the problem here comes from lack of practice in writing research papers. Kids in China never have this kind of assignment till they reach university, and once at uni, are given next to no instruction on how to do it. I taught two terms of academic writing. It was a nightmare, believe me.
Believe it or not, one of the best training I ever got in writing research and analysis papers was at an Army NCO Leadership Academy. We had to do a number of papers in the month or so I was there, and each was graded for style, formatting, content, and coherence.
150 | Targetpractice Mar 1, 2015 9:35:19pm |
re: #141 Lidane
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So what wingnuts believe is that, in a battle of wills between Bibi and Obama, it was Bibi who backed down?
151 | Single-handed sailor Mar 1, 2015 9:36:24pm |
re: #127 RealityBasedSteve
Darn kids now. I remember when we had to order them from the back of Rolling Stone.
RBS
I remember when we used to have to write them ourselves, with op. cit., loc. cit. notes.
152 | goddamnedfrank Mar 1, 2015 9:42:08pm |
re: #144 Eclectic Cyborg
“Everything written prior”, yeah that’s not overly broad at ALL.
“Hello Programmers? Help me recursively grep the Library of Congress. P.S. I’d like to pay for this with cookies.”
153 | teleskiguy Mar 1, 2015 9:47:53pm |
US-550 Red Mtn Pass CLOSED b/c Avalanche;No est time for re-open— CDOT (@ColoradoDOT) March 2, 2015
154 | SteveMcGaziBolaGate Mar 1, 2015 9:48:32pm |
The words have oft’ been written by those before me
I’m taking my turn in trying to pass them on.
155 | SteveMcGaziBolaGate Mar 1, 2015 9:54:50pm |
I just went to youtube and the Todd Rungren concert is on one ofe the recommended channels for me.
156 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Mar 1, 2015 9:56:23pm |
re: #152 goddamnedfrank
“Hello Programmers? Help me recursively grep the Library of Congress. P.S. I’d like to pay for this with cookies, just as soon as my mother-in-law bakes some.”
Expanded for extra Chucky goodness.
157 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 1, 2015 10:00:07pm |
re: #144 Eclectic Cyborg
“Everything written prior”, yeah that’s not overly broad at ALL.
Well, anything written prior that’s in electronic form, at least.
158 | RealityBasedSteve Mar 1, 2015 10:00:56pm |
re: #152 goddamnedfrank
“Hello Programmers? Help me recursively grep the Library of Congress. P.S. I’d like to pay for this with cookies.”
It will be 20.00 for the original proposal, and .99 for each change order
RBS
159 | Charles Johnson Mar 1, 2015 10:02:41pm |
I'm sure the timing of this “report” that Obama threatened to shoot down Israeli planes is just a coincidence. Yeah, right.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 2, 2015
160 | RealityBasedSteve Mar 1, 2015 10:04:26pm |
Well, I’m off to bed. Keep a log burning in the fireplace.
RBS
161 | Targetpractice Mar 1, 2015 10:09:52pm |
re: #159 Charles Johnson
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Thing is, if this is Bibi’s handiwork, I’m not sure he could have picked a worse paper to leak to.
162 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Mar 1, 2015 10:14:27pm |
re: #159 Charles Johnson
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I’m sure the timing of this “report” that Obama threatened to shoot down Israeli planes is just a coincidence. Yeah, right.
He might very well have told them: “You pull that shit, you’re on your own.” and this is their revenge.
I remember being absolutely aghast at the attack on the Ossirak reactor—I expected WWIII to break out any second. “How in the world can they get away with this?” Turns out they can get away with anything….
163 | freetoken Mar 1, 2015 10:30:24pm |
A large share of the American “right wing” is in a religious delirium and part of their fantasies include a magical “Israel” that for them is a talisman as well as the final victim in some magical war of super-beings.
And this is what they think is good “foreign policy.”
164 | goddamnedfrank Mar 1, 2015 10:36:13pm |
The report claimed that an unnamed Israeli minister who has good ties with the US administration revealed the attack plan to Secretary of State John Kerry, and that Obama then threatened to shoot down the Israeli jets before they could reach their targets in Iran.
LOLWUT? Probably the US told Israel that it doesn’t control and can’t possibly speak for the Iraqi government’s air defense grid. That the US could not and would not be able to make the Iraqis stand down and that a raid would further destabilize their government and strengthen ISIS’s control over the western half of the country. All of which is true.
The sources added that Gantz and his commanders prepared the requested plan and that Israeli fighter jets trained for several weeks in order to make sure the plans would work successfully. Israeli fighter jets reportedly even carried out experimental flights in Iran’s airspace after they managed to break through radars.
Yeah sure LOL okay. Does this even pass the smell test? You’re telling me that Israel got all the way across Jordan and then across Iraq’s US updated modern air defense grid, then into Iran and then back again in their gen 4 FB’s without being seen at all, and then after all that the Israeli’s were all like, “oh noes, the American’s say they’ll shoot us down if we try this for real with actual armed planes?” If this story isn’t just total bullshit then the logical Israeli thinking would have been “we can already fly anywhere we damn well please without being seen so the first anybody’s going to know about this is after the bombs fall. Let the US and Iraqis try to shoot us down on our way back, honey badger don’t give a shit!”
165 | SteveMcGaziBolaGate Mar 1, 2015 10:37:59pm |
re: #164 goddamnedfrank
Is there any agreement between the US and Iraq about maintaining the sovereignty of Iraqi airspace?
166 | Targetpractice Mar 1, 2015 10:40:16pm |
re: #164 goddamnedfrank
LOLWUT? Probably the US told Israel that it doesn’t control and can’t possibly speak for the Iraqi government’s air defense grid. That the US could not and would not be able to make the Iraqis stand down and that a raid would further destabilize their government and strengthen ISIS’s control over the western half of the country. All of which is true.
Yeah sure LOL okay. Does this even pass the smell test? You’re telling me that Israel got all the way across Jordan and then across Iraq’s US updated modern air defense grid in their gen 4 FB’s without being seen at all, and then after that the Israeli’s were all like, “oh noes, the American’s say they’ll shoot us down if we try this for real with actual armed planes?” If this story isn’t just total bullshit then the logical Israeli thinking would have been “we can already fly anywhere we damn well please without being seen so the first anybody’s going to know about this is after the bombs fall. Let the US and Iraqis try to shoot us down on our way back, honey badger don’t give a shit!”
Wait, seriously, they’re alleging that Israeli planes violated Jordanian, Iraqi, and Iranian airspace multiple times and never once set off alarms? BULLSHIT!
167 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 1, 2015 10:41:07pm |
re: #163 freetoken
A large share of the American “right wing” is in a religious delirium and part of their fantasies include a magical “Israel” that for them is a talisman as well as the final victim in some magical war of super-beings.
And this is what they think is good “foreign policy.”
Israel for most of them is an abstraction, not a physical nation with real live people living inside of it.
168 | teleskiguy Mar 1, 2015 10:44:51pm |
I’ll just put this here. Guffaws guaranteed.
Back to proofing the Blammary after holiday break. Meanwhile, please enjoy these complimentary u's. pic.twitter.com/OtPbMCxGd5— Larry Blamire (@larryblamire) December 27, 2014
169 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 1, 2015 10:45:51pm |
Fifty years on, Austrians still think The Sound of Music is only … meh.
m.bbc.com
The director of the movie had the impression that Edelweiss was the Austrian national anthem. LOL
170 | goddamnedfrank Mar 1, 2015 10:49:11pm |
re: #165 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
Is there any agreement between the US and Iraq about maintaining the sovereignty of Iraqi airspace?
Does it really matter? I mean to say, is there any version of plausible reality where anybody thought the Iraqis were going to just sit quietly by while Israel flies over their shit with armed warplanes to bomb another muslim country?
Remember that the historical animosity between Iraq and Iran doesn’t really factor in anymore, since the government is Shia led. In fact, it goes the other way, letting Israel hit Iran would only pour more gasoline on Iraq’s sectarian tensions. It would probably push the country into open Civil War. That’s what I mean by strengthening ISIS’s hand.
There’s no version of this in which Israel wasn’t just straight up asking Obama to just let them fuck us over hot and dry, undoing every last remaining bit of tenuous progress we’ve managed to hold on to inside Iraq.
171 | freetoken Mar 1, 2015 10:50:29pm |
Though not a large or “mainstream” religious group, this article by the Philadelphia Church of God rag is typical of American religious delirium:
Netanyahu: The Last Defense Against a Deal With Iran
[…]
As dangerous as a nuclear deal may look today, it would be far worse without a strong voice of opposition. And don’t think this only affects a tiny nation in the Middle East—this concerns the whole world! Notice what Trumpet editor in chief Gerald Flurry said in his Key of David program titled “Why You Must Watch Jerusalem.”
When Mr. Netanyahu is coming here to speak before Congress, he wanted to talk to the world really about a massive danger—not only to Israel, but to this entire planet. And he is very passionate about it. You will see that when he comes here in March, I’m sure. He will be talking about the number one problem facing humanity, which is that of human survival.
This affects us all!
Mr. Flurry continues:
Man is about to destroy all human life off this planet! Is there anything more urgent than that? I tell you, if you listen to Mr. Netanyahu’s speech I think you’ll get a lot of that from it, and I hope that you WILL listen to it when he speaks in March because it is something that this whole world needs to be listening to.
This pivotal speech by the loudest opponent to a nuclear deal is about to take place. Watch as the Obama administration does everything in its power to discredit and undermine that speech and ultimately silence any opposition to a nuclear deal.
American society is full of these religious groups, all peddling their magical apocalypses.
172 | SteveMcGaziBolaGate Mar 1, 2015 10:52:07pm |
re: #170 goddamnedfrank
“Does it really matter”
Damn right it matters. If there is an agreement between the US and Iraq about their airspace we would have to honor that if Israeli planes overflew Iraq.
173 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 1, 2015 10:53:01pm |
re: #171 freetoken
Iran = Leviathan, apparently,
174 | goddamnedfrank Mar 1, 2015 10:59:23pm |
re: #172 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
“Does it really matter”
Damn right it matters. If there is an agreement between the US and Iraq about their airspace we would have to honor that if Israeli planes overflew Iraq.
I get that. I still very much doubt that Iraq doesn’t have it’s own hand in the loop and wouldn’t have fired on Israeli planes with everything at their disposal regardless of any agreements we might or might not have had, and chose to honor or not to honor.
I’m just not credulous enough to believe the Iraqi government and military is all like “No, it’s cool Uncle Sam, don’t worry our pretty little heads with the details. Just tell us if shit gets real m’kay?”
And that’s what I think Obama told the Israelis, that there was no way for the US to effectively guarantee the safety of their pilots over that airspace, whether we wanted to or not.
175 | goddamnedfrank Mar 1, 2015 11:37:14pm |
You know what’s totally bullshit? That HBO’s Rome only got two seasons.
Seriously, looking at you Glee.
176 | freetoken Mar 1, 2015 11:39:26pm |
Trying to pick music based on the key post and picture of this thread…. and this is the only thing that came to mind:
177 | Kragar Mar 1, 2015 11:40:44pm |
re: #175 goddamnedfrank
You know what’s totally bullshit? That HBO’s Rome only got two seasons.
Seriously, looking at you Glee.
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True, but then you have to look at the production values involved. Hard to work out corporate sponsors and product tie ins when the setting is ancient Rome.
178 | Khal Wimpo Mar 1, 2015 11:47:29pm |
re: #175 goddamnedfrank
You know what’s totally bullshit? That HBO’s Rome only got two seasons.
Seriously, looking at you Glee.
Or that Deadwood got shitcanned to make room for “John from Cincinnatti.” Rome, at least I can kinda understand - the pricetag for each season was in & around $100mill. The ratings were OK, but not Game of Thrones level.
The other one that I’d like to have seen go on a bit more is the Borgias. I know, I know. Different network.
179 | goddamnedfrank Mar 1, 2015 11:56:21pm |
re: #177 Kragar
True, but then you have to look at the production values involved. Hard to work out corporate sponsors and product tie ins when the setting is ancient Rome.
Good point. HBO partially finances Game of Thrones by selling action figures.
180 | Kragar Mar 2, 2015 12:11:05am |
re: #179 goddamnedfrank
Good point. HBO partially finances Game of Thrones by selling action figures.
Lots of other merchandising there as well.
183 | FemNaziBitch Mar 2, 2015 1:36:58am |
The ‘War on Women’ is the latest war that Republicans at CPAC want to win
Nonetheless, vague problems demand vague solutions. Thus MacDonald advised 2016 Republican candidates: “If you want to eliminate poverty overnight, you can wipe it out by having stable, two-parent households.” (Note the weaseling inclusion of “stable.”) After all, we determine income inequality by households, so take two people living together in poverty, marry ‘em, and presto! No more poverty. Statistical problems go away if you stop gathering statistics. That only sounds nutty if you don’t already know that global warming isn’t real because thermometers lie.
184 | urbanmeemaw Mar 2, 2015 1:37:29am |
re: #40 Shiplord Kirel
Conservative citizens group or bondage meet-up? You be the judge!
It would be irresponsible not to speculate.
185 | FemNaziBitch Mar 2, 2015 1:46:19am |
@tomsaw200 @mshaiq @ProWomanChoice Women don't need convincing, we LIVE IT.— ggt (@geegeetee) March 2, 2015
186 | FemNaziBitch Mar 2, 2015 1:48:36am |
re: #185 FemNaziBitch
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“don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining” was my first response. I decided not to post it.
188 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 2, 2015 2:20:36am |
re: #183 FemNaziBitch
Naturally, this ignores the reality that there are plenty of married couples living in poverty in the USA. Getting married is not a magic spell to cure poverty.
The GOP lives in an Ozzie and Harriet fantasy world.
189 | Tigger2 Mar 2, 2015 2:35:49am |
re: #188 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
Naturally, this ignores the reality that there are plenty of married couples living in poverty in the USA. Getting married is not a magic spell to cure poverty.
The GOP lives in an Ozzie and Harriet fantasy world.
It’s really hard to convenience the Republicans that the 50s are over. Since most of their base grew up in the 50s and hate to let that time period go.
190 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 2:43:53am |
OK, since no one is here, I will describe my “get off my lawn” moment yesterday.
The 18 yr old next door “adopts” engine-driven articles of various types from time to time. This time it was a Yamaha dirt bike, last time a go-cart. Don’t know where he gets them, but he doesn’t keep them long.
Their patio has turned into a veritable garage atmosphere lately, grease-stained, trashy, and I have to keep total tabs on various tools he borrows from me. They are becoming the neighbors from hell, and always borrowing stuff and not returning it, etc. I am a bit too charitable sometimes, but it’s a bug, not a feature, lately.
Yesterday, though, the kid bought my ire. The grassy area beyond the patio was previously always well-tended but when I came home yesterday afternoon, he had managed to drive a tire sized groove down the entire length, along with a bit of other damage.
So, after enduring hour after hour of gunning of the engine, etc, I had had enough and yelled at him to cut the crap and stop tearing up the grass. The old landlord would never have allowed this kind of vandalism, but with an absentee one using a distant “mgmt co”, I can see things around here deteriorating rather quickly when people think there is no one around to stop them. I’m not sure how long they’ll be here since he let it slip that they hadn’t paid the Feb rent (for which they have received no notice from the Clown Car mgmt co), and since the Clown Car mgmt co isn’t doing a very good job, that it will stay empty once they notice the rent isn’t being paid.
Not so sure of any future scenario since I tracked down some info after finding out that some LLC shown on the local public records as buyer w/an address in Flushing that wasn’t valid, and got back a call from a guy at JP Morgan/Chase who said he lived there, claims the purchase of these apts is probably some type of scam and that the RE market is the “wild west”. If this place starts becoming a neglected dump, we’ll have to move because that’s totally unacceptable to me. I suspect someone had to hide some income and we’re “it”.
191 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mar 2, 2015 2:47:40am |
re: #72 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
Only bad guys get hit by bullets. The good guys, never, or maybe just get a flesh wound.
I saw in a movie once.
Not entirely true. But bad guys go down with the first shot, good guys have to get hit like fourteen times and take a half hour to finally die.
192 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 2, 2015 2:48:12am |
re: #190 Justanotherhuman
Do you think someone is trying to flip the property?
193 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mar 2, 2015 2:52:36am |
re: #163 freetoken
A large share of the American “right wing” is in a religious delirium and part of their fantasies include a magical “Israel” that for them is a talisman as well as the final victim in some magical war of super-beings.
And this is what they think is good “foreign policy.”
It has nothing to do with Israel or the Jewish people, it has to do with ushering in Armageddon and the End Times so all us good Christians can finally come to Jesus.
194 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 2:53:21am |
re: #192 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
Possibly, but I was also told, and when I look on the mgmt co website, they’re more in the business of trying to “sell” properties of various kinds, mostly in Charlotte, to people on a “lease/purchase” contract and you never actually “own” those properties because there is no deed transfer. The mgmt co certainly don’t own the properties so they can’t sell them outright.
195 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 2, 2015 2:57:18am |
re: #194 Justanotherhuman
So, it’s a scam, basically.
196 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 3:07:12am |
re: #195 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
This is the only person, other than the clown they sent in an Infiniti car to do repairs w/no tools and, seemingly, no concept of maintenance, that I’ve ever spoken with and that was on the phone: linkedin.com
It took her over a month to send out letters showing who they were and where to send the rent. I found out who they were in Dec, and notified other tenants, so most of us got the rent in on time—not that it appears to matter that much.
197 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 3:31:52am |
re: #195 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
Also, BTW, none of the various names I checked out w/the NC Real Estate Comm listed on their website as real estate “professionals” has a RE license w/the State of NC.
198 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 2, 2015 3:51:33am |
re: #197 Justanotherhuman
Also, BTW, none of the various names I checked out w/the NC Real Estate Comm listed on their website as real estate “professionals” has a RE license w/the State of NC.
They have the earmarks of a company focusing on cash flow and not in actually managing their property), though the cash flow concern may be weak, too.
Or they could be rank beginners.
199 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 4:05:12am |
re: #198 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
They have the earmarks of a company focusing on cash flow and not in actually managing their property), though the cash flow concern may be weak, too.
Or they could be rank beginners.
Well, considering that the “owner/broker” tried to rent some of the worst properties in Charlotte in some of the worst crime-ridden areas at up to $10K/wk (market rent would be $1500/mo) during the 2012 Dem convention, I don’t think he’s an amateur at this. He claims he’s been in RE since 2003, but as I said, I couldn’t find where he has a RE license.
200 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 4:18:17am |
re: #198 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
You can’t find a well maintained 3BR, 2BT house in Charlotte even for $850/mo.
Here’s a “detail” on one of their rentals:
Tenant occupied on month to month lease, no showings until a successful contract is negotiated. Currently under-rented at $750/mo, but previously rented for $850/mo (my emphasis).
Either bait and switch or not “for rent” at all. They want your money before they even show it? Bollocks.
201 | Dave In Austin Mar 2, 2015 4:43:37am |
MOM!!!!!! @Morning_Joe is being a dick again!!— DaveT62 (@DaveoutofAustin) March 2, 2015
202 | Eventual Carrion Mar 2, 2015 4:49:44am |
203 | wrenchwench Mar 2, 2015 4:53:09am |
This picture made me feel sleepy and hungry at the same time. pic.twitter.com/wo424aVKLH— Alyaa (@ACupOfDepresso) March 2, 2015
205 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 4:54:57am |
Wonderful, there was a neo-Confederate in my Timeline.
HURR HURR THAT FLAG YOU POSTED IS TEH BATTEL FLAG!!! NOT TEH CSA NATIONAL FLAG!!!!!
So what? It’s still the flag of racism, slavery, and fucking LOSERS.
HURR HURR TEH WAR WASN’T ABOUT SLAVERY U LIBTARD!!!!
Here’s the link to the Declaration of Causes.
HURR HURR LINCOLN EVEN SAID TO TEH NEW YORK NEWSPAPERS HE WOULD END TEH WAR WITHOUT FREEING SLAVES!!!!!!
Yeah but he didn’t.
206 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 4:57:47am |
Usually the Declaration of Causes shuts them right up, except for that idiot from last week who was all HURR HURR LIBRUL COMMUNIST COLLEGE PERFESSERS MADE THAT UP!!!!!!!
207 | Tigger2 Mar 2, 2015 4:59:24am |
210 | Romantic Heretic Mar 2, 2015 5:10:47am |
re: #107 Gus
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Monsieur Arard is, I hope, aware, that by coming to Ms. Rice’s defence he’s making the abuse worse.
Fuckin’ Commie Frog! Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey! Those are the people that bitch, and Obummer, are allied with!!1!!11
211 | Romantic Heretic Mar 2, 2015 5:12:56am |
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Unfortunately Rabbi, we live in a society of expertise, and being an expert means a person is always correct in their opinion on a subject.
Admitting limitation is denying one’s expertise, and very identity.
212 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 5:14:06am |
My granddaughter's 1st birthday. She loves cake! pic.twitter.com/Pl8oBWmaiu— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) March 2, 2015
213 | wrenchwench Mar 2, 2015 5:15:10am |
Nice hashtag: #SciArt
Before my wacom cintiq there was pen and ink. Here a week old Breda chick. Notice the leg feathers #SciArt pic.twitter.com/JNOPXrJy5t— Mieke Roth (@miekeroth) March 2, 2015
My start w/#sciart: w/@LuisVRey on fun “what if T. rex raced a giant chicken?” image; more: http://t.co/i9gXd4C6UO pic.twitter.com/M8roFO4tce— John R. Hutchinson (@JohnRHutchinson) March 2, 2015
214 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 2, 2015 5:19:19am |
re: #209 wrenchwench
Did he marry a local? And live close to a zebra family?
215 | Nyet Mar 2, 2015 5:22:08am |
re: #209 wrenchwench
One of my cousins in Kenya.
Nice cousin, I love the zebra pattern he wears. Who’s the guy in the car?
216 | wrenchwench Mar 2, 2015 5:28:07am |
re: #214 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
Did he marry a local? And live close to a zebra family?
They’re visiting Kenya, I think they live in Tanzania. Don’t know whether he married the zebra or the woman.
217 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 5:30:03am |
In Which Ted Cruz Goes Full DARVO==>
@RedNationRising @RedState #PJNET #tcot #ccot #Democrats #Liberals #Progressives = OBSTRUCTIONISTS pic.twitter.com/CG3lrpL22K”— Founders Keepers (@FLNJItalia312) March 2, 2015
218 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 2, 2015 5:31:20am |
re: #216 wrenchwench
They’re visiting Kenya, I think they live in Tanzania. Don’t know whether he married the zebra or the woman.
Well, they’re both cute. ;-)
Where in Tan? I have two students working in Dodoma now.
219 | wrenchwench Mar 2, 2015 5:43:41am |
re: #218 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
Well, they’re both cute. ;-)
Where in Tan? I have two students working in Dodoma now.
They’re in Dar es Salaam, when he’s not climbing a mountain or teasing a zebra. He went to Afghanistan with AID. My most interesting cousin. And I see he got married in 2007. He may be the reason I haven’t quit Facebook.
221 | sagehen Mar 2, 2015 5:53:23am |
222 | wrenchwench Mar 2, 2015 5:57:16am |
re: #221 sagehen
The man, the woman, or the zebra?
The man by blood, the woman by marriage, and the zebra by scritching.
223 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 5:58:48am |
re: #216 wrenchwench
They’re visiting Kenya, I think they live in Tanzania. Don’t know whether he married the zebra or the woman.
Is that zebra black and white, or blue and gold?
(Cheesy Disney Jungle Ride routine: “Zebra—the other white meat, dark meat, white meat, dark meat, white…”)
224 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 2, 2015 6:02:22am |
re: #219 wrenchwench
They’re in Dar es Salaam, when he’s not climbing a mountain or teasing a zebra. He went to Afghanistan with AID. My most interesting cousin. And I see he got married in 2007. He may be the reason I haven’t quit Facebook.
OK. The two cities are about five or six hours apart by car, so I doubt they could meet by chance. My students took a job with a Chinese firm hoping to capitalize on the sunflower seed oil business. Kind of a risky first job, since the firm has yet to produce any oil, but their salaries are much higher than what they could make as freshly minted college grads in China. And, as an added benefit, the two students (Kenneth and Laura) have become a couple. Though they are not married as yet, there’s talk of such a thing in the not too distant future.
Their English skills got them their jobs. Laura is also learning Swahili, as the de facto HR manager. But they tell me that they seldom leave the factory compound for relaxation, only for business. So, they live in a little, isolated island of China surrounded by the Tanzanian countryside. That would drive me crazy.
225 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 6:04:33am |
re: #224 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
OK. The two cities are about five or six hours apart by car, so I doubt they could meet by chance. My students took a job with a Chinese firm hoping to capitalize on the sunflower seed oil business. Kind of a risky first job, since the firm has yet to produce any oil, but their salaries are much higher than what they could make as freshly minted college grads in China. And, as an added benefit, the two students (Kenneth and Laura) have become a couple. Though they are not married as yet, there’s talk of such a thing in the not too distant future.
Their English skills got them their jobs. Laura is also learning Swahili, as the de facto HR manager. But they tell me that they seldom leave the factory compound for relaxation, only for business. So, they live in a little, isolated island of China surrounded by the Tanzanian countryside. That would drive me crazy.
Recommend this book to them. It includes things like ‘How to administer a driver’s test to a local hire when you don’t share a language”.
226 | Mattand Mar 2, 2015 6:07:20am |
re: #217 The Mother Of All Pies
In Which Ted Cruz Goes Full DARVO==>
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I said this a few months ago: my take is that the average American voter, given their collective inability and desire to keep educated about this stuff, will look at the DHS situation and go:
DURR THE REPUBLICANS GAVE OBAMA A BILL WHY WON’T HE JUST SIGN IT DURR!!!
Happy Monday!!!!
227 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 2, 2015 6:08:44am |
re: #225 Decatur Deb
Recommend this book to them. It includes things like ‘How to administer a driver’s test to a local hire when you don’t share a language”.
I think the price makes it a no-go for them. They each make $800 a month, and send most of their pay back home to their families.
228 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 6:10:21am |
re: #227 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
I think the price makes it a no-go for them. They each make $800 a month, and send most of their pay back home to their families.
That’s one of those idiot 3rd-party prices. Got mine new on eBay for about 20 bucks.
229 | Nyet Mar 2, 2015 6:10:55am |
re: #226 Mattand
These are mostly the same people who elected Bush and who vote for “local” Rethugs time after time. Of course they will.
230 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 2, 2015 6:11:30am |
re: #228 Decatur Deb
That’s one of those idiot 3rd-party prices. Got mine new on eBay for about 20 bucks.
Got it. Kenneth has a DL now, and Laura’s getting one, so they might need a handy guide like that.
231 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 2, 2015 6:12:37am |
232 | wrenchwench Mar 2, 2015 6:20:22am |
233 | Feline Fearless Leader Mar 2, 2015 6:20:30am |
Good morning Lizards.
Mother Nature delivered some freezing rain to Philadelphia overnight, so things are a bit rink-ish with the 1/2” of ice lying about. Local sidewalks were OK, but I haven’t even looked at my car yet. (Good thing I walk to work.)
234 | SteveMcGaziBolaGate Mar 2, 2015 6:22:32am |
re: #233 Feline Fearless Leader
It’s above freezing now, and winter’s grip is getting weaker. I live on the waterfront just by the Ben Franklin Bridge and the marina outside my window was frozen solid, but is now breaking up.
235 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 6:23:25am |
re: #231 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
This is from last year, so maybe you’ve seen it. But these bikes are cool.
bbc.com
That ‘donkey’ bike looks like the traffic we saw in Seoul in 79-81. An important part of the country’s goods and people moved by bike. Unless China has updated a lot, you probably see the same in the back-roads.
236 | Nyet Mar 2, 2015 6:24:48am |
The main witness Anna Duritskaya unfortunately didn’t manage to see anything, it happened so fast.
237 | lawhawk Mar 2, 2015 6:32:33am |
US district judge strikes down Nebraska's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage - @LJSNebraskaNews http://t.co/rdKwBcSX4b— Breaking News (@BreakingNews) March 2, 2015
Another one bites the dust.
238 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 2, 2015 6:34:07am |
re: #235 Decatur Deb
That ‘donkey’ bike looks like the traffic we saw in Seoul in 79-81. An important part of the country’s goods and people moved by bike. Unless China has updated a lot, you probably see the same in the back-roads.
Some locals have upgraded to overloading scooters and motorbikes. ;-)
239 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 2, 2015 6:34:17am |
BREAKING: Sources say Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.) to retire from Senate. http://t.co/1zilb3x2Zv— Jenna Johnson (@wpjenna) March 2, 2015
240 | Feline Fearless Leader Mar 2, 2015 6:36:44am |
re: #234 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
It’s above freezing now, and winter’s grip is getting weaker. I live on the waterfront just by the Ben Franklin Bridge and the marina outside my window was frozen solid, but is now breaking up.
I’ve been watching the ice accumulate and then break around the dam on the Schuylkill since it’s visible from work. That is starting to break up a little bit today.
My main worry about the weather this week is Thursday — that’s when I fly out of the airport heading for points south (N.C.)
241 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 6:38:01am |
Ucch I just saw a Bibi/Hitler Godwin scroll by on #UniteBlue
Which proves that Libtards really do exist in the wild. :(
242 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 6:38:02am |
re: #238 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
Some locals have upgraded to overloading scooters and motorbikes. ;-)
There, too. The scariest was a guy in front of us who was carrying a couple hundred pounds of propane cylinders on a scooter. Somewhere he had picked up on the old notion that an enclosed flammables truck should drag a grounding chain to prevent static sparks. His “grounding” chain caught in his drive chain at about 20 mph.
243 | wrenchwench Mar 2, 2015 6:40:33am |
re: #235 Decatur Deb
That ‘donkey’ bike looks like the traffic we saw in Seoul in 79-81. An important part of the country’s goods and people moved by bike. Unless China has updated a lot, you probably see the same in the back-roads.
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Piker.
244 | lawhawk Mar 2, 2015 6:40:50am |
The LAPD now faces its own officer-involved shooting/excessive force incident after an eyewitness videotapes an altercation between two homeless people that escalated when police showed up. One of the two people was quickly subdued and handcuffed, but the other is seen taken to the ground with several cops involved, but moments later shots ring out, and the other person is shot (and dies at the hospital).
Phone video captures LAPD's fatal shooting of homeless man during fight http://t.co/r6Qc86poIQ (Anthony Black photo) pic.twitter.com/i73cONx50g— USA TODAY (@USATODAY) March 2, 2015
It’s not easy to tell from the angle of the video exactly what happens, but I’m betting that the cops will claim that the guy was going for one of the officers’ guns, and therefore was a legitimate use of force.
And, this being a couple of homeless people, the care quotient is well, down on the list, even though homeless people don’t deserve to be shot down any more than a 12 year old unarmed kid, or any other excessive force incident we’ve come to learn about.
246 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 6:44:24am |
re: #243 wrenchwench
Piker.
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Cheater. That’s a trike. The give-away on the b&w Korean photo is the extensive reinforcement of the front forks. That would typically be construction rebar spot-welded on one of the ‘deuce-and-a-half’ bikes.
247 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 2, 2015 6:45:33am |
re: #242 Decatur Deb
There, too. The scariest was a guy in front of us who was carrying a couple hundred pounds of propane cylinders on a scooter. Somewhere he had picked up on the old notion that an enclosed flammables truck should drag a grounding chain to prevent static sparks. His “grounding” chain caught in his drive chain at about 20 mph.
Our cooking LP is typically delivered by motorcycle carrying four large bottles on the sides and at least one over the rear wheel. And these are not the squat little bottles you run your backyard gas grille on in the States, but at least triple that capacity. Mine usually lasts me 5-6 months, even with daily use of my cooker.
248 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 2, 2015 6:47:17am |
I just read that the Westport Baptist ghouls were going to protest at Leonard Nimoy’s funeral, but gave up when they couldn’t find it. The family made sure it was private.
m.bbc.com
249 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 6:48:08am |
STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY
(Of course it’e early and will be superceded)
.@TheDemocrats treatment of Israel & Netanyahu simply illustrates their poorly disguised racist, Jew-hating, anti-semitism. #UniteBlue #tcot— PattiO (@soylentbeige) March 2, 2015
250 | Feline Fearless Leader Mar 2, 2015 6:48:45am |
re: #249 The Mother Of All Pies
STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY
(Of course it’e early and will be superceded)
Crocodile tears from the “victims”.
//
251 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 6:48:57am |
Oh, it’s a Ditto head. That explains Teh Stupids.
252 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 6:51:58am |
OK no THIS IS THE STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY:
Don’t you just love it when “Christian, Conservative, Molon Labe” fuckballs tell Jews what to think
MT @AmyMek: If ANY American Jew still supports @BarackObama, you are an idiot! #tcot pic.twitter.com/Os9yaPzwqA #IStandWithIsrael #PJNET— Chris Combs (@Crossbearer1956) March 2, 2015
253 | lawhawk Mar 2, 2015 6:53:08am |
There was once a Nazi summer camp on Long Island & more in this treasure trove of NYC photos http://t.co/6UD7a0Q6ie pic.twitter.com/viAVCslFpc— amNewYork (@amNewYork) March 2, 2015
254 | Dr. Matt Mar 2, 2015 6:57:21am |
CNN’s Reliable Sources Airs New Audio Disproving O’Reilly’s JFK Story
CNN’s Brian Stelter On Higher Quality Recording Of O’Reilly Phone Call: “Clearly This Tape Shows He Was Not There”
And yet the librul MSM will continue to ignore O’Reilly’s now established history of lying.
255 | Nyet Mar 2, 2015 6:58:20am |
re: #252 The Mother Of All Pies
In their professed love for Israel they’re like a creepy obsessed fan from some B-flick…
256 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 6:59:29am |
257 | Nyet Mar 2, 2015 7:00:19am |
re: #255 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD
In their professed love for Israel they’re like a creepy obsessed fan from some B-flick…
E.g. posting fake quotes…
MT @jstines3: Hitler and Muslims had/have common goal - destruction of Jews! NEVER AGAIN! pic.twitter.com/5qBFn9XYA1 #IStandWithIsrael #PJNET— Chris Combs (@Crossbearer1956) March 2, 2015
258 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 7:00:46am |
RW keeps losing on this one. : ) And he gave them a week to get their shit together at the county courthouses.
US district judge strikes down Nebraska’s voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage - @LJSNebraskaNews
“A U.S. district judge has struck down Nebraska’s voter approved ban on same-sex marriage, but county clerks across the state won’t be issuing marriage licenses just yet.
“Pursuant to the Memorandum and Order [54] entered this date, IT IS ORDERED that all relevant state officials are ordered to treat same-sex couples the same as different sex couples in the context of processing a marriage license or determining the rights, protections, obligations or benefits of marriage,” Judge Joseph Bataillon wrote in the order. “IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that this order will be effective on Monday, March 9, 2015, at 8:00 a.m. CDT.”
“The effective date in his order means that there will be no rush to the courthouse on Monday, avoiding administrative chaos.” More
259 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 7:01:25am |
re: #255 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD
In their professed love for Israel they’re like a creepy obsessed fan from some B-flick…
They “love Israel” because it will provide the background scenery and extras that they require for their grand Armageddon Apocalypse production.
260 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 7:02:50am |
re: #259 The Mother Of All Pies
They “love Israel” because it will provide the background scenery and extras that they require for their grand Armageddon Apocalypse production.
Yes they plainly state in their Armageddon scenario that if Jews don’t convert to Christ, they are doomed.
261 | lawhawk Mar 2, 2015 7:02:55am |
Jeez, the transparent idiocy and willful blindness re: Israel, Iran, and Obama’s foreign policy is dazzling.
.@JRubinBlogger @politico you mean like this? http://t.co/CGQ8E6VgCY— lawhawk (@lawhawk) March 2, 2015
Take Jennifer Rubin for instance. She has access to all manner of news, and then quips that she wishes that Kerry would warn Iran for once.
Oh, he did. And let Iran know that if they don’t deal, Israel will take actions necessary to preserve its security:
“The clock is ticking,” U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry warned Iran on Friday, adding that Israel will do what is necessary to defend itself against the Islamic Republic’s nuclear program.
Speaking to reporters at a joint news conference with German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle, Kerry said that he is not optimistic that Iran’s upcoming presidential election will result in any change in the country’s nuclear ambitions.
“I do not have high expectations that the election is going to change the fundamental calculus of Iran,” Kerry said. “This is not a portfolio that is in the hands of a new president or the president; it’s in the hands of the supreme leader. And the supreme leader ultimately will make that decision, I believe.”
Kerry said the U.S. would continue to pursue a peaceful resolution to the impasse but warned that time is running out. Iran’s persistent defiance of international demands to come clean about its nuclear program makes the world more dangerous, he said.
“Iran needs to understand that the clock is ticking,” warned Kerry.
“Every month it goes by gets more dangerous. And the reality is that Israel will do what it needs to do to defend itself,” he stressed.
Seems pretty strong statement, support of Israel, and hitting Iran for not fair dealing with the six power talks on Iran’s nuclear ambitions.
[note that this is from 2013, but Rubin never time-limited her quip either]
262 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 7:05:44am |
That Arutz 7 article is so utterly stupid, even for them (the Fox News of Israel) I’m wondering if it is a Purim prank.
263 | Nyet Mar 2, 2015 7:06:24am |
I’m not sure how the wingnut mind works.
“I see this meme with Hitler’s quote from Mein Kampf mentioning Allah. I will not ask why is it that I’ve never seen it before (even though if the quote were true, it would be plastered all over the internet and quoted endlessly by Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity). I won’t ask why Hitler, who I think was an atheist, would mention Allah. I won’t ask why a German dictator, of all people, would openly profess his love of Allah. It just must be true. *retweet*”
264 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 7:07:27am |
re: #262 The Mother Of All Pies
That Arutz 7 article is so utterly stupid, even for them (the Fox News of Israel) I’m wondering if it is a Purim prank.
Haven’t seen any Obama/Haman riffs yet.
265 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 7:08:27am |
Do you shop at Costco?
BREAKING: Costco announces Citi will become the exclusive issuer of its co-branded credit card & Visa will replace AmEx as exclusive card.
— CNBC Now (@CNBCnow) March 2, 2015
266 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 7:09:05am |
267 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 7:09:29am |
NEW STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY==>
Does nobody in Texas realize who won at The Alamo?
On this day in 1836 William Travis wrote from Alamo that he'd never surrender or retreat. As Gov. I'll fight with similar tenacity. #Tcot— Greg Abbott (@GregAbbott_TX) February 24, 2015
269 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 7:11:11am |
re: #268 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD
The fake quote is all over the lesser wingnut blogs and forums.
Every time I see a Hitler quote on the Internet, I:
1. Assume it’s fake
2. If it’s not fake, who pores through Hitler speeches looking for quotes?
270 | ObserverArt Mar 2, 2015 7:11:26am |
re: #237 lawhawk
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Morning Lizards.
I wonder if this ruling against a voted ban will start to chip away at the Ohio Defense of Marriage Act?
271 | lawhawk Mar 2, 2015 7:11:55am |
re: #265 Justanotherhuman
Yup. They ended their exclusive deal with Amex when they couldn’t get a new deal done last month. The existing Amex exclusivity ends in April 2016, and the new deal with Visa starts the next day.
Amex has been getting hammered from losing the Costco deal, and they lost an exclusive deal with JetBlue branded cards too.
Those exclusive deals/cobranded cards were a significant hit to ongoing business at Amex, and will likely fuel further job cuts at the company.
272 | Dr. Matt Mar 2, 2015 7:12:01am |
re: #267 The Mother Of All Pies
NEW STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY==>
Does nobody in Texas realize who won at The Alamo?
On this day in 1836 William Travis wrote from Alamo that he’d never surrender or retreat. As Gov. I’ll fight with similar tenacity. #Tcot
— Greg Abbott (@GregAbbott_TX) February 24, 2015
I’ve heard that quote before…..
273 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 7:12:11am |
re: #268 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD
The fake quote is all over the lesser wingnut blogs and forums.
Consoling thought: Perhaps there are only a couple hundred of these RWNJs, but they inhabit thousands of sites redundantly. Nah…
274 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 7:12:37am |
#Netanyahu welcome. Cpl of security questions for u. So whose your rabbi?What synagogue do you go?What was your bar mitzvah portion? #snark— Michael W. Twitty (@KosherSoul) March 2, 2015
275 | WhatEVs Mar 2, 2015 7:13:18am |
re: #257 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD
I wish they’d make up their minds. Either Hitler was a misunderstood guy, a socialist democrat or in with the Muslims.
277 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 7:14:21am |
re: #275 WhatEVs
I wish they’d make up their minds. Either Hitler was a misunderstood guy, a socialist democrat or in with the Muslims.
Also too: GUN CONTROL CAUSED TEH HOLOCAUST!11!!11!
278 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 7:14:39am |
re: #275 WhatEVs
I wish they’d make up their minds. Either Hitler was a misunderstood guy, a socialist democrat or in with the Muslims.
ALL OF THE ABOVE 11!!
279 | Nyet Mar 2, 2015 7:15:34am |
re: #276 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD
(I should memorize this handy method of bypassing the Haaretz paywall:
280 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 7:15:36am |
She’s retiring, it’s said.
More: Sen. Mikulski, who has served in Congress longer than any other woman in US history, to announce plans at 11 am ET press conference - @NBCNews
end of alert
Get busy, Dems.
281 | Feline Fearless Leader Mar 2, 2015 7:16:04am |
re: #278 Decatur Deb
ALL OF THE ABOVE 11!!
Hitler was an evil shapeshifter. A sort of Evil Putty that you can make look like whatever you want it too in order to make your “point” appear valid via some sort of nebulous appeal to Evil Authority.
///
282 | Dr. Matt Mar 2, 2015 7:17:17am |
re: #281 Feline Fearless Leader
Hitler was an evil shapeshifter. A sort of Evil Putty that you can make look like whatever you want it too in order to make your “point” appear valid via some sort of nebulous appeal to Evil Authority.
///
Hitler was a librul tree hugger. FACT! //
283 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 7:18:46am |
re: #282 Dr. Matt
Hitler was a librul tree hugger. FACT! //
Vegetarian. Every time I fire up the Weber, I’m striking back at the Reich.
284 | lawhawk Mar 2, 2015 7:19:11am |
Netanyahu’s AIPAC speech is underway, in which he’s saying that he’s got respect for President Obama and the office of the President (but I have a funny way of showing it).
And of course he’ll get a standing O talking about Jerusalem as the undivided capital of Israel.
285 | Dr. Matt Mar 2, 2015 7:19:31am |
re: #283 Decatur Deb
Vegetarian. Every time I fire up the Weber, I’m striking back at the Reich.
I had beef kabobs last night for dinner…..because I’m a patriot.
286 | Dr. Matt Mar 2, 2015 7:20:42am |
Question for #Netanyahu: How soft are John Boehner's lips on your ass?— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) March 2, 2015
287 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 7:20:51am |
re: #285 Dr. Matt
I had lasagna. Because I’m a pseudo-Italian. ; )
288 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 7:21:23am |
289 | ObserverArt Mar 2, 2015 7:21:38am |
re: #263 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD
I’m not sure how the wingnut mind works.
“I see this meme with Hitler’s quote from Mein Kampf mentioning Allah. I will not ask why is it that I’ve never seen it before (even though if the quote were true, it would be plastered all over the internet and quoted endlessly). I won’t ask why Hitler, who I think was an atheist, would mention Allah. I won’t ask why a German dictator, of all people, would openly profess his love of Allah. It just must be true. *retweet*”
Well there is the problem. Their minds don’t work, they just react in a programmed manner. Like a bug. And their programming is fed to them by RWNJ media. Bug marching orders.
Hitler would have loved ‘em!
290 | lawhawk Mar 2, 2015 7:22:00am |
.@BarakRavid IOW, it's your fault, not mine, that you perceive my politicized speech as politicized.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) March 2, 2015
291 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 7:22:08am |
292 | Nyet Mar 2, 2015 7:22:14am |
re: #283 Decatur Deb
Vegetarian. Every time I fire up the Weber, I’m striking back at the Reich.
Vegetaryan. *runs away*
293 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 7:22:54am |
294 | ObserverArt Mar 2, 2015 7:25:23am |
re: #267 The Mother Of All Pies
NEW STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY==>
Does nobody in Texas realize who won at The Alamo?[Embedded content]
I think he is saying that if he loses the next election, the Mexicans will need to storm the Capitol building and shoot him to get him out of there.
/ or something.
(Don’t stop him…he’s rolling)
295 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 7:25:25am |
2 FAKE QUOTES SIDE BY SIDE!
Sounds familiar; just word interactions. Hitler and Hillary …. @Donald_Wells @TRUCKER4AMERICA pic.twitter.com/lBQb4oac8G— Kate (@catydoodle) February 27, 2015
296 | lawhawk Mar 2, 2015 7:26:34am |
re: #295 The Mother Of All Pies
The needs of the many…
Outweigh the needs of the few.
Or the one.
-Spock. ST 2: The Wrath of Khan.
297 | Jenner7 Mar 2, 2015 7:29:13am |
Just curious. Was there any other time where a foreign leader went to Congress behind the President’s back to undermine his foreign policy??
298 | b_sharp Mar 2, 2015 7:29:51am |
re: #296 lawhawk
The needs of the many…
Outweigh the needs of the few.
Or the one.
-Spock. ST 2: The Wrath of Khan.
Isn’t that the premise behind the military?
299 | Nyet Mar 2, 2015 7:29:56am |
re: #295 The Mother Of All Pies
The first one may even be authentic, for all I know, but the second one I could only trace to the wingnut sources. I think it was probably made up by Neal Boortz.
300 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 7:30:48am |
AIPAC is an embarrassment to us Jews. I call it OYPAC.— Harold Itzkowitz (@HaroldItz) March 2, 2015
301 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 7:31:41am |
re: #299 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD
The first one may even be authentic, for all I know, but the second one I could only trace to the wingnut sources. I think it was probably made up by Neal Boortz.
There is another alleged “Hillary” quote that can only be found at the usual wingnut sites: “We are going to take things away from you for the common good.”
302 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 7:31:54am |
re: #298 b_sharp
Isn’t that the premise behind the military?
“I regret that I have but one life so fuck you, country”.
303 | ObserverArt Mar 2, 2015 7:32:21am |
re: #295 The Mother Of All Pies
2 FAKE QUOTES SIDE BY SIDE!
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Whoa…check out her page. Wolves and the Stars and Stripes!
She is one to be wary of. Especially howling at night.
304 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 7:33:09am |
Not again…
Smoke at DC DuPont circle metro station. pic.twitter.com/FR9zyDsg4R
— Jason Tai (@jasontai168) March 2, 2015
What is that, the 3rd or 4th time in a couple of weeks?
307 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 7:39:22am |
re: #297 Jenner7
Just curious. Was there any other time where a foreign leader went to Congress behind the President’s back to undermine his foreign policy??
Seeing a lot of “Netanyahu, the Churchill of our times” shtick. Might find some shenanigans in his post-war drumbeating about anticolonialism and the Iron Curtain push.
308 | Nyet Mar 2, 2015 7:39:41am |
That said, liberals also post dodgy quotes sometimes. Like that one about “the man of one book”, ascribed to Aquinas.
309 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 7:40:13am |
What meddlesome bubble is this?
Nasdaq composite index hits 5,000 for first time since 2000, the height of the dot-com bubble - @business
read more on bloomberg.com
Maybe it’s just that the economy is strong?
310 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 7:47:31am |
re: #308 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD
That said, liberals also post dodgy quotes sometimes. Like that one about “the man of one book”, ascribed to Aquinas.
If I call out a liberal on a Fake Quote they are usually “Oh I did not know that! I will remove this meme” but if I call out a conservative they just double down SO WHAT IF JEFFERSON NEVER SAID IT, IT STILL TEH TROOFS!!!11!!!
311 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mar 2, 2015 7:50:07am |
re: #292 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD
Vegetaryan. *runs away*
Thanks, folks, I’m here all week. Try the tofu.
312 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 7:50:21am |
How many billionaires has Elizabeth Warren guillotined?
Warren Buffett says Elizabeth Warren is too 'angry' and 'violent' with rich people http://t.co/P1d6bwXZG0 pic.twitter.com/7UN6ZZbHIr— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) March 2, 2015
313 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 7:51:06am |
re: #312 The Mother Of All Pies
He says that like it’s a bad thing.
314 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 2, 2015 7:54:43am |
aaaaaaaaarrrrrggggggg:
Most areas to receive 2 to 4 hours of freezing rain Tue A.M. before changing to a cold rain. Slippery travel likely in the A.M.— NWS Wilmington OH (@NWSILN) March 2, 2015
315 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 7:56:01am |
re: #311 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
Haha, they had a story on the morning local news about those powdered supplements that you mix up in a blender. They’re not approved by the FDA, but people are still using them, a new “trend” I suppose. They provide no fiber like vegs or fruits would, so what’s the point?
But there’s some kind of snake oil for everyone, I suppose.
316 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 7:58:50am |
re: #315 Justanotherhuman
Haha, they had a story on the morning local news about those powdered supplements that you mix up in a blender. They’re not approved by the FDA, but people are still using them, a new “trend” I suppose. They provide no fiber like vegs or fruits would, so what’s the point?
The point is MOAR MONEYS FOR TEH SUPPLEMENT MAKERS!!!!!1!!!!!
317 | ObserverArt Mar 2, 2015 8:03:23am |
re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth
aaaaaaaaarrrrrggggggg:
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Hang in there Sleuth…the warming is coming. Problem is the transitional period can be real sloppy! Long range past Thursday looks promising.
318 | Iwouldprefernotto Mar 2, 2015 8:05:54am |
re: #312 The Mother Of All Pies
How many billionaires has Elizabeth Warren guillotined?
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She is not angry enough.
319 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 8:06:31am |
#tcot is utterly losing their shit this morning (because it is a day ending in day!) over the fake Arutz 7 story.
320 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 8:07:32am |
Can you imagine being drunk and going up and down that ladder? And the smell after being cooped up in there for any length of time? Ecccchhh.
Mysterious Toronto bunker built as ‘man cave’
Stick to your basement…
321 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 2, 2015 8:09:44am |
re: #317 ObserverArt
Hang in there Sleuth…the warming is coming. Problem is the transitional period can be real sloppy! Long range past Thursday looks promising.
There’s also snow and sleet in the forecast for Wednesday. And Thursday night’s low is supposed to be -2F.
blech…
322 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 8:10:00am |
In what else is new? dept…
Record number of billionaires join Forbes list in 2015, new high of 197 women join ranks - @NBCNews
323 | Timothy Watson Mar 2, 2015 8:10:12am |
re: #257 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD
E.g. posting fake quotes…
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I guess it’s pointless to point out that the Lehi tried to form an alliance with fascist Italy and Nazi Germany during World War II?
325 | lawhawk Mar 2, 2015 8:12:21am |
CEO of Aetna Ins raises base salary to $16/hr. Says Fortune 50 company should not leave employees in poverty http://t.co/R5rL1pKkNw #mapoli— Michael Ripple (@mripple) February 28, 2015
326 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 8:13:39am |
re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth
There’s also snow and sleet in the forecast for Wednesday. And Thursday night’s low is supposed to be -2F.
blech…
Yeah, hang on…
Sun is out here, with a prediction of 63. Wed is going to be 73 or so, then back to the 40s and rain throughout the week. Weekend looks promising and perhaps back to the low 60s for highs next week. Keeping fingers crossed…
327 | CuriousLurker Mar 2, 2015 8:15:32am |
OT Drive-by: I’m just gonna leave this here in case anyone’s interested. Agree with it or not, this is what I’ve been getting at since Wood’s article came out. Manic Monday, so it’s back to work for me now…
The Phony Islam of ISIS
The group’s interpretation of the religion is not literal. It is not serious. And saying otherwise puts Muslims in an impossible situation.Following the publication of his Atlantic cover story, “What ISIS Really Wants,” Graeme Wood has challenged critics who claim that he misrepresented Islamic belief, noting, “It’s instructive to see how responses to my piece reckon with or ignore this line: ‘Muslims can reject the Islamic State; nearly all do.’” But Wood’s entire essay implies that such a rejection of ISIS by other Muslims can only be hypocritical or naive, and that ISIS members and supporters follow the texts of Islam as faithfully and seriously as anyone.
The main expert in Wood’s article is Princeton University professor Bernard Haykel, who “regards the claim that the Islamic State has distorted the texts of Islam as preposterous, sustainable only through willful ignorance. … In Haykel’s estimation, the fighters of the Islamic State are authentic throwbacks to early Islam and are faithfully reproducing its norms of war.”
Put another way: Not only are Muslims wrong that ISIS is distorting Islamic texts, but the very idea is preposterous. ISIS is faithfully following Islamic norms of war. All of this might lead a thoughtful reader to wonder what all the other Muslims are doing. […]
328 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 8:18:51am |
re: #320 Justanotherhuman
Can you imagine being drunk and going up and down that ladder? And the smell after being cooped up in there for any length of time? Ecccchhh.
Mysterious Toronto bunker built as ‘man cave’
Stick to your basement…
As someone said in the comments, it would have collapsed in short order. The cops possibly saved their lives.
329 | Mattand Mar 2, 2015 8:23:07am |
re: #234 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
It’s above freezing now, and winter’s grip is getting weaker. I live on the waterfront just by the Ben Franklin Bridge and the marina outside my window was frozen solid, but is now breaking up.
I saw the one marina by the bridge when I was on the train last week. I was wondering if some of the boats docked there are going to have hull problems, as they were pretty much locked in by the ice.
330 | Mattand Mar 2, 2015 8:26:36am |
re: #284 lawhawk
Netanyahu’s AIPAC speech is underway, in which he’s saying that he’s got respect for President Obama and the office of the President (but I have a funny way of showing it).
And of course he’ll get a standing O talking about Jerusalem as the undivided capital of Israel.
I always wonder if people like Netanyahu get that for a lot of conservatives/Republicans, the only reason they love Israel so much is that it’s Ground Zero for all the Revelations horseshit they believe.
331 | Ace-o-aces Mar 2, 2015 8:30:20am |
re: #261 lawhawk
Take Jennifer Rubin for instance. She has access to all manner of news, and then quips that she wishes that Kerry would warn Iran for once.
Oh, he did. And let Iran know that if they don’t deal, Israel will take actions necessary to preserve its security:
Rubin couldn’t tell you what the weather is outside if it’s not mentioned in daily RNC talking points memo.
332 | lawhawk Mar 2, 2015 8:30:55am |
re: #330 Mattand
I always wonder if people like Netanyahu get that for a lot of conservatives/Republicans, the only reason they love Israel so much is that it’s Ground Zero for all the Revelations horseshit they believe.
He understands it, probably better than many. But he’s taking their support so as to secure further funding/support in Congress for Israel, even if it’s all to further an agenda that is antithetical to Israel’s long term existence.
Israelis will take the support where they can, holding their noses knowing that these folks see Israel as a pawn in a religious belief system that requires Israel’s destruction in the end for fulfillment of that religious belief system.
333 | Nyet Mar 2, 2015 8:31:21am |
re: #327 CuriousLurker
All of this might lead a thoughtful reader to wonder what all the other Muslims are doing.
Other Muslims are interpreting the texts differently. That’s all. That doesn’t make ISIS’ Islam “phony”, as if there was some objective way to establish “one true Islam”. That was actually Haykel’s point: Islam is not some sort of a monolith.
I would argue that some Christians’ or Jews’ understanding of their scriptures are closer to the “original intent of the authors” than of some other Christians/Jews, but that would in no sense mean that their understanding is more valid.
334 | Dr. Matt Mar 2, 2015 8:32:32am |
re: #330 Mattand
I always wonder if people like Netanyahu get that for a lot of conservatives/Republicans, the only reason they love Israel so much is that it’s Ground Zero for all the Revelations horseshit they believe.
That, and Israel spends a lot of time and (our) money killing brown people.
335 | Nyet Mar 2, 2015 8:33:52am |
Over the centuries, jurists and theologians of every stripe, Sunni and Shiite, have devised rational, systematic methods for sifting through dīth, which are often difficult to understand or seem to say contrary things about the same questions. They have ranked and classified these texts according to how reliable they are, and have used them accordingly in law and theology. But ISIS does not do this. Its members search for text snippets that support their argument, claim that these fragments are reliable even if they are not, and disregard all contrary evidence—not to mention Islam’s vast and varied intellectual and legal tradition.
In other words, what the Protestants did.
336 | Ace-o-aces Mar 2, 2015 8:35:53am |
You do realize a good programer would expect to be paid to to this? @ChuckCJohnson
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) March 2, 2015
337 | Aunty Entity Dragon Mar 2, 2015 8:36:56am |
re: #142 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
It is, and he highlights the root causes of plagiarism — under-prepared students, lack of instruction and counseling at their institutions, and indifference by instructors.
Some universities have a turnitin.com account, and every student has to submit their papers in electronic form, which the profs (or graduate assistants) run through Turnitin. If it passed muster, they’ll read the paper and grade it.
I’ve grown so accustomed to the educational climate in China that I assume a student has plagiarized his/her paper, and then will be pleasantly surprised when it’s original. Most of the problem here comes from lack of practice in writing research papers. Kids in China never have this kind of assignment till they reach university, and once at uni, are given next to no instruction on how to do it. I taught two terms of academic writing. It was a nightmare, believe me.
Guilford College is adamant about promoting academic writing. I had multiple papers for almost every class outside of chemistry and calculus.
In my case, I know my writing style is distinctive enough that any prof would likely catch on quickly if I did atually want to plagerize or write for another student.
As it is, I take considerable pride in my papers and I never felt the need to cheat.
338 | Mattand Mar 2, 2015 8:38:22am |
re: #336 Ace-o-aces
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CCJ is going to expect the programmer to pay him 99¢ per line of code, just to make sure it’s real.
339 | lawhawk Mar 2, 2015 8:39:26am |
re: #336 Ace-o-aces
Wait. Wut? Does this nitwit not realize that there are software programs and free websites that do precisely that? They have varying levels of sophistication as well - from checking entire documents to cut/paste of individual sentences or phrases/paragraphs.
340 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 8:40:28am |
re: #325 lawhawk
In NC, making $13-14/hr is way too much to get any benefits, unless you have a lot of kids. That’s pretty much an average wage for experienced clerical workers in the Charlotte area, although some make less. $16/hr would be around $2800/mo before taxes, or $33K/yr, around the Federal poverty level for a family of 6. So, some of those parents are probably already over eligibility for some programs if they only have 2 or 3 kids, although I know that the cost of living in some locations figures in. healthcare.gov
At $9/hr w/one child, my grandson was ineligible for food stamps, but does get Medicaid coverage for his child but not himself, under a special state program extending Medicaid to kids of working parents with low incomes. So, he runs about $3-4K over the poverty level. Ironically, he works for a company that owns nursing homes and delivers drugs to them through the same company that owns the pharmacy. So it’s all Federal money coming in for the owner of the businesses because he sells his Rxs to his own facilities and collects Medicare and Medicaid payments for both.
But this is good news for those employees, and let’s hope other companies follow suit and pay a wage that will enable people to support themselves and get ahead.
342 | SteveMcGaziBolaGate Mar 2, 2015 8:46:04am |
re: #329 Mattand
I saw the one marina by the bridge when I was on the train last week. I was wondering if some of the boats docked there are going to have hull problems, as they were pretty much locked in by the ice.
I’m on the southern side facing the other way. None of the boats on my side had any trouble this year, but the last time it got cold (in 1994) one of them did sink. Usually the marina has some agitation system to reduce the ice formation around the boats but I don’t know what happened this year.
The boats in these marinas do have a different problem: they’re trapped by mud. The marinas need dredging but the project keeps getting pushed back because they can’t find a home for the spoils (the stuff that gets dredged up). At low tide many of the boats are sitting on the riverbed.
343 | Great White Snark Mar 2, 2015 8:46:29am |
re: #333 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD
re: #327 CuriousLurker
Caveat-I Only read the quote above. But this argument about whether Daesh is faithful to old Islam or not at all really misses a point. Apart from a few fanatics, orthodox jews don’t act on the ancient laws as per slavery, killing family members for certain sins etc.
Seems to me we have the same obvious thing in Islam. Few Muslims want to go by the centuries old ways. That’s one salient difference.
And all this to stake out whether calling these guys Islamic un islamic is a positive or negative thing. Seems to me the effort to keep the 99%+ of Muslims that want nothing to do with the ways of Daesh firmly separated in our minds can use all the help it can get.
If a Christian or Jewish sect sprung up that was as powerful, violent and apocalyptic in both mindset and deed, would we look askance at our fellow jew or Christian? Not here in the states we would not.
To me the point is not how Islamic or unislamic these guys are. The point is how destructive they are. What is their method of destruction and oppression? Past that who cares apart from religious academics and perhaps some psychiatrists that research human aggression?
These guys think they have a playbook for ruination and the end of the world. Would it be so different if the playbook had a secular origin?
There is a task ahead that needs doing regardless of exactly how these guys justify themselves and recruit and propagandize.
344 | Nyet Mar 2, 2015 8:52:54am |
It is clear from the historical point of view that the authors who wrote Genesis had no idea about evolution, believed in special creation, global flood and so on. It was a typical example of the ancient Near-Eastern literature, with some pieces taken more or less wholesale from some older stories (Gilgamesh). Yes, people in those days believed in such things literally.
This does mean that, seen historically, a literal interpetation of Genesis (insofar as it is possible, for the book contradicts itself) corresponds closer to the “original intent” of the authors than that of the modern liberal Christians.
But this in no way means that such a religious interpretation is more valid than any other. Because the assumption that “the closer to the historical understanding, the more valid” is in itself value-laden and non-neutral. By accepting it we are already taking a side. Which is why an outsider can point out what is more historically plausible/original, but the outsider has no method whatsoever to judge which interpretation is more valid religiously, because religion has very different axioms, which do not necessarily correspond to the secular history, science or philosophy. IOW, an outsider cannot dictate to a given group what they “should” believe to belong to the group. [This is of course a bit more complex than that, because in order to even begin to speak about the groups, we must have some very basic definitions - e.g. what is “Christianity” - and this would also mean specifying some groups as non-Christian. Such is the nature of all basic definitions. But that is a separate, more complex issue.]
If the Torah says A, and the Talmud says “Well, actually B”, it is useless for an outsider to say: “Well, the Torah has the priority” (and therefore the Karaites are right, and if anything apparently contradicts the Torah in our limited understanding, this must be rejected) or “the Talmud has the priority” (and therefore the Orthodox Jews are right, and the millenia-old rabbinical tradition cannot be ignored). Such matters are not decided on a rationalist basis. They depend on the basic axioms of a given sect. Which also means there is no sense in asking “Who is more correct, Protestants or Catholics?” or “Which is more correct, the traditional mainstream interpretations or ISIS’ alleged innovations?”. Unless one belongs to one of those groups and shares the basic axioms with them.
345 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 8:53:09am |
This smells like a set-up.
Suspects sought in robbery of truck carrying $4 million worth of silver and gold in Wilson County, NC - @ABC11_WTVD
Funny that the robbers just appeared when the truck was having “mechanical trouble” and stopped along the Interstate.
346 | lawhawk Mar 2, 2015 8:56:21am |
Because tracking down these kinds of statistics is tough, the fact that this group was able to not only do so, but map where and when these officer involved killings occurred is a significant step forward.
We've mapped 302 black lives taken by police in 2014: http://t.co/f0GwfHMHQH. The data speaks for itself.— deray mckesson (@deray) March 2, 2015
347 | Aunty Entity Dragon Mar 2, 2015 9:00:30am |
re: #312 The Mother Of All Pies
How many billionaires has Elizabeth Warren guillotined?
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Elizabeth Warren is totally a sans-culotte revolutionary. Her articles in L’Ami du peuple and Le Père Duchesne yesterday called for another uprising on the assembly. Mme Roland, Danton and St-Just are meeting with her and Robespierre tonight in the Jacobin Club.
Get your pikes, brave sans-culottes! Take the bastards to Revolution Square to be shaved by the Republican Razor!
Well, not really…
348 | Higgs Boson's Mate Mar 2, 2015 9:05:58am |
re: #347 Aunty Entity Dragon
I’d settle for some Democratic malletons.
349 | Ace-o-aces Mar 2, 2015 9:06:15am |
re: #339 lawhawk
Wait. Wut? Does this nitwit not realize that there are software programs and free websites that do precisely that?
Yeah, there are some very sophisticated pieces of software to do what CCJ thinks he can get some interns to do for free on the side.
350 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 9:08:50am |
351 | Ace-o-aces Mar 2, 2015 9:09:03am |
Cuban is probably doing this out of a sense of whimsy. Coulter probably needs the money, @DCist @anamariecox
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) March 2, 2015
352 | Higgs Boson's Mate Mar 2, 2015 9:09:15am |
re: #349 Ace-o-aces
Yeah, there are some very sophisticated pieces of software to do what CCJ thinks he can get some interns to do for free on the side.
Took me thirty seconds to find ten free plagiarism detection software applications.
353 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 9:09:53am |
NASA briefing to discuss the March 6 arrival of the agency’s Dawn spacecraft at the dwarf planet Ceres.
354 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 9:11:39am |
re: #353 Justanotherhuman
NASA briefing to discuss the March 6 arrival of the agency’s Dawn spacecraft at the dwarf planet Ceres.
Well, damn, is it already over?
355 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Mar 2, 2015 9:13:40am |
356 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 9:13:49am |
Palestinians to file ICC case against Israel in April: PLO
The Palestinians are to lodge their first complaint against Israel for alleged war crimes at the International Criminal Court on April 1, a senior official told AFP on Monday.
“One of the first important steps will be filing a complaint against Israel at the ICC on April 1 over the (2014) Gaza war and settlement activity,” said Mohammad Shtayyeh, a member of the executive committee of the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO).
(snip)
“Israel reacted furiously, and quickly moved to cut off millions of dollars in monthly tax payments it collects on behalf of the Ramallah-based Palestinian Authority, exacerbating an already severe financial crisis.” More
357 | Nyet Mar 2, 2015 9:16:55am |
re: #356 Justanotherhuman
Israel will not have its hand tied by a politicized ICC. We will fight terrorism on every front and defend our people against any threat— ?????? ?????? (@netanyahu) January 19, 2015
358 | Aunty Entity Dragon Mar 2, 2015 9:19:19am |
re: #350 Decatur Deb
Mmmm. Crayfish Thermidor.
Happy 12 Ventose, Lizards! The Revolutionary plant of the day is the Elm tree.
en.wikipedia.org
windhorst.org
359 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 9:21:00am |
Hmm. These are not “secret Snowden documents” but belong to the US. He stole them.
Secret Snowden documents show Canadian agency suffers from “information overload” because it collects “too much data” http://t.co/MqhzBAMiwR
— The Intercept (@the_intercept) March 1, 2015
360 | Stephen T. Mar 2, 2015 9:23:12am |
re: #305 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD
Einstein said it best.
My favorite Albert Einstein quote isn’t even fake:
When I die, if the word ‘thong’ appears in the first or second sentence of my obituary, I’ve screwed up.
Of course, you probably know this Albert Einstein by a different name. You probably know him as Albert Brooks.
361 | Nyet Mar 2, 2015 9:25:33am |
One more thing. As a Protestant - and a very liberal Protestant at that - Obama is of necessity rejecting the centuries of traditional Christian teachings developed first within the “united” Church, and then within the Western, i.e. Catholic Church by the so-called Church Fathers and later theologians. And of course we would rightly scoff at those who would call his Christianity “phony” on this basis.
362 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 9:25:35am |
re: #358 Aunty Entity Dragon
Happy 12 Ventose, Lizards! The Revolutionary plant of the day is the Elm tree.
en.wikipedia.org
windhorst.org
Don’t tell Sergey. He’ll go on about the Parisian Spring.
363 | b.d. Mar 2, 2015 9:25:42am |
re: #359 Justanotherhuman
Hmm. These are not “secret Snowden documents” but belong to the US. He stole them.
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Now Greenwald is bitching because a government can’t get around to reading your emails?
364 | lawhawk Mar 2, 2015 9:26:16am |
re: #359 Justanotherhuman
.@the_intercept ~Stolen~ Snowden documents; he ~stole~ those classified docs from USG; that makes him complicit in espionage.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) March 2, 2015
365 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 9:29:55am |
re: #364 lawhawk
Gawd, those assholes are so smug and confiscatory. : )
I’m not a violent person, but I think if I ever ran into GG, I’d slap his greedy, dishonest face. : )
366 | CuriousLurker Mar 2, 2015 9:30:18am |
re: #333 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD
re: #335 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD
re: #344 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD
You’re applying a secular/scientific type analysis to religion. As I’ve stated several times before, making those types of arguments is never going to work, in either direction. Daesh is primarily a threat to fellow Muslims (and any non-Muslims that might get in their path). The West is clutching its pearls as if people are going to wake up tomorrow and find a jihadi hiding in their closet or under their bed. That’s not going to happen.
That said, Daesh (and groups like it) will continue to be a threat as long as people refuse to understand them in an Islamic context and instead try to do some sort of clinical analysis that is completely detached from any understanding of Islam or Muslims. Not only will continuing on that path not work, it will eventually alienate the Muslim citizens who could be useful in counteracting extremist ideas. I don’t know why this is so difficult to understand. It’s like a weird kind of blind spot.
We (Muslims) thoroughly understand the Western context because we live in (and many of us were raised in) a secular, diverse Western society. Additionally, most converts were either raised in or have family members who still participate in different religious traditions (Christianity,, Judaism, etc.) We also understand Islam, obviously because we’re Muslims.
IOW, you’re not talking to people who don’t understand the context of the Western secular tradition and the application of scientific/critical thinking, but when we try to get you to understand where (some) Muslims are coming from in an Islamic context, you refuse to accept it. No one is asking you to accept it as in believe it, we’re asking you to accept that in order to properly understand the context you need to accept that it’s part of what Muslims believe. If you (collectively) can’t do that, then you’ll never rid yourselves of the extremist scourge.
367 | Nyet Mar 2, 2015 9:36:31am |
re: #366 CuriousLurker
The utilitarian concerns are simply a separate matter. Yes, of course, the mainstream Islamic groups should be supported over ISIS (and in their fight with ISIS). That’s very different from trying to make non-Muslims to declare ISIS theologically incorrect or illegitimate - which non-Muslims cannot do by def, even if they believe that they can (sorry Obama).
368 | CuriousLurker Mar 2, 2015 9:36:35am |
re: #343 Great White Snark
I agree with some of your points, but I’m working right now and can’t really address all of them, though my #366 response to Segrey may go some way towards that. You really owe it to yourself to read the entire article, and especially try to understand this part (emphasis mine):
The first thing I teach my undergraduates is that the English word “Islam” has two distinct but related meanings: the “Islam” that corresponds to Christendom (the civilization) and the “Islam” that corresponds to Christianity (the religion). The result is that the term “Islamic” has two separate but related uses, as does “un-Islamic.”
In his article and elsewhere, Wood has challenged the claim by Muslims that ISIS is un-Islamic by pointing out that ISIS members are self-identified Muslims. But Muslims who say “ISIS is un-Islamic” are not saying that ISIS fighters are not Muslims at all. They are calling ISIS “un-Islamic” the way a politician might call bigotry “un-American.” In fact, a prominent expert on ISIS has noted, “I would be curious to know how many Muslims are willing to declare the members of [ISIS] non-Muslim,” adding, “I bet you there are very, very few people.” That expert is Bernard Haykel.
Gotta run, phone’s ringing… BBL
369 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 9:38:35am |
Imagine a house in the US being in a family for 200 yrs. There are hundreds of these, and while they’re trying to find the family, they also have historical value.
Wartime pictures discovered in Somerset loft
According to a woman whose family owns the house, it was “let” (rented) for about 100 yrs.
370 | CuriousLurker Mar 2, 2015 9:41:17am |
re: #367 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD
The utilitarian concerns are simply a separate matter. Yes, of course, the mainstream Islamic groups should be supported over ISIS (and in their fight with ISIS). That’s very different from trying non-Muslims to declare ISIS theologically incorrect or illegitimate - which non-Muslims cannot do by def, even if they try (sorry Obama).
Then why is it accepted for a non-Muslim to assert ISIS is theologically legitimate?? Because that’s exactly what Wood did and it was the thing that was my gripe from the very beginning. That’s been my whole point all along.
371 | CuriousLurker Mar 2, 2015 9:41:55am |
Argh, I can’t think/type and talk on the phone at the same time. BBL
372 | lawhawk Mar 2, 2015 9:42:16am |
5 times since 1992 Netanyahu has warned Iran is v close to nukes http://t.co/jjsUZPKfps ht @MazMHussain— Ryan Cooper (@ryanlcooper) March 2, 2015
If there’s a deal with Iran to make Iran’s nuclear ambitions more transparent, this takes the teeth out of Netanyahu’s sole issue on which he’s campaigning - Iran.
Iran has been Netanyahu’s bogeyman for 20+ years, and he’s always claiming that Iran is just a few years away from going nuclear. At some point, that might actually turn out to be true. But I don’t see how Netanyahu’s actions aren’t going to prevent that from happening.
And even the US Government has let Iran know that if Iran intends to go nuclear, that other countries in the region, especially Israel, will take actions to defend themselves against that potential threat.
373 | Nyet Mar 2, 2015 9:43:08am |
re: #370 CuriousLurker
Then why is it accepted for a non-Muslim to assert ISIS is theologically legitimate?? Because that’s exactly what Wood did and it was the thing that was my gripe from the very beginning. That’s been my whole point all along.
Because if none of them are theologically illegitimate, then all of them are of the same theological legitimacy (or illegitimacy, however one wants to formulate it) to an outside observer.
374 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 9:49:11am |
Boris Nemtsov murder: Girlfriend still held by police
376 | darthstar Mar 2, 2015 9:53:34am |
I listened to Bibi’s red meat buffet of a speech this morning - a few things struck me:
1. Referring to Israel as a beacon of light in a dark corner - he labeled not just Iran, but all of his Arab neighbors as Israel’s (and the US’s because family) enemy.
2. His review of Israel’s actions where they ignored the wishes of the USA and acted unilaterally - and he used these examples (statehood in 1948, war in 1967) to illustrate that the US would eventually stand by them if they went rogue again.
These are not the words of a man who is interested in peaceful resolution. He’s running out of time to be an agent of change to the landscape of the Middle East. And he knows it.
377 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 9:55:24am |
re: #372 lawhawk
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If there’s a deal with Iran to make Iran’s nuclear ambitions more transparent, this takes the teeth out of Netanyahu’s sole issue on which he’s campaigning - Iran.
Iran has been Netanyahu’s bogeyman for 20+ years, and he’s always claiming that Iran is just a few years away from going nuclear. At some point, that might actually turn out to be true. But I don’t see how Netanyahu’s actions aren’t going to prevent that from happening.
And even the US Government has let Iran know that if Iran intends to go nuclear, that other countries in the region, especially Israel, will take actions to defend themselves against that potential threat.
The focus on Iranian warhead research has always seemed strange. Why should Iran undertake a tedious do-it-yourself project when it can buy a few retail?
378 | Tigger2 Mar 2, 2015 9:56:12am |
re: #249 The Mother Of All Pies
STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY
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No I’m not against Jews. but I’m an Americans first.
379 | Nyet Mar 2, 2015 9:58:16am |
I usually find Mormonism as a useful model for how religions are born, develop, etc. because it’s so thoroughly documented.
We know that alongside the LDS Church there are numerous other groups - RLDS and a host of tinier ones - all of whom claim the mantle of “one true Church”. (Though recently RLDS was liberalizing itself to the point where it probably no longer makes such a claim - but historically it did).
They all have their own Prophets, Apostles etc., with the claims of “legitimacy”.
There are groups among the so-called Mormon fundamentalists that we, as a modern society, wouldn’t want to be around, like the polygamist groups where abuse is rampant (incl. pedophilia).
From the utilitarian point of view we should “support” the mainstream Mormons (or however they call themselves) over such anti-social groups. (We may have different opinions on whether it’s good or not to accept the tenets of Mormonism, but as long as people will believe in these tenets, it is better for us that they accept the more moderate versions.)
But would it make sense to claim that some smaller sect - e.g. the one that rejects Brigham Young as a prophet (RLDS), or the one that rejected Smith as a fallen prophet, but still accepted the Book of Mormon (Rigdonites), or any of the groups with new “Scriptures” on top of the LDS ones (Strangites and a host of more modern “Prophets” with their new books), or any so-called fundamentalist groups that accept Brigham Young and follow his teaching while rejecting the current hierarchy - is theologically more or less legitimate than the LDS Church? Not at all. We may think of the LDS missionaries, for example, as the epitome of a Mormon, but, social stereotypes aside, we are simply unable to be the judges of the theological legitimacy because we don’t accept the basic premises of Mormonism.
380 | Teukka Mar 2, 2015 9:59:33am |
re: #377 Decatur Deb
The focus on Iranian warhead research has always seemed strange. Why should Iran undertake a tedious do-it-yourself project when it can buy a few retail?
Yeah, in my opinion it is plausible that Iran’s enrichment program is nothing but an attempt at diversifying so that they don’t rely solely on oil for income, IIRC Iran has Uranium or deposits it is using for the current program.
And if so, what would be needed are transparency initiatives for enrichment which apply to all in the Uranium enrichment business.
381 | Dave In Austin Mar 2, 2015 10:02:01am |
Looks like MSNBC has changed formats today. Ronan and Joy Reid are out. Thomas Robert has 2 hrs now.
382 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 10:04:23am |
ISIS threatening Twitter and its employees because of shut downs of ISIS accts?
Now, if Twitter would just shut down Upchuck…
383 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 10:05:26am |
re: #376 darthstar
These are not the words of a man who is interested in peaceful resolution. He’s running out of time to be an agent of change to the landscape of the Middle East. And he knows it.
Yikes, I first read “landscape” as “moonscape”.
384 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 10:07:57am |
Well I am planning a trip to Israel in one month and I would like to have an enjoyable vacation and return home alive in one piece.
385 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 10:10:19am |
re: #381 Dave In Austin
Looks like MSNBC has changed formats today. Ronan and Joy Reid are out. Thomas Robert has 2 hrs now.
Lots of “unacceptable” stuff happening today. As it does every day.
386 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 10:11:24am |
Somebody tell Greg Abbott that Texas is not an independent country, even though it tried to be, twice.
Happy Independence Day in Texas. We have yet to learn submission to any oppression. #txlege #tcot pic.twitter.com/ivGA8TLTLU— Greg Abbott (@GregAbbott_TX) March 2, 2015
387 | Dr. Matt Mar 2, 2015 10:13:11am |
re: #386 The Mother Of All Pies
Somebody tell Greg Abbott that Texas is not an independent country, even though it tried to be, twice.
Waaah, poor Texans….they are soooooo oppressed by the evil Blah man.
388 | CuriousLurker Mar 2, 2015 10:15:54am |
re: #373 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD
Because if none of them are theologically illegitimate, then all of them are of the same theological legitimacy (or illegitimacy, however one wants to formulate it) to an outside observer.
All I can say in response to that is that the last three paragraphs of the article hit the nail exactly on the head for me, especially this part:
In my experience, many Muslims are upset by articles like this not because their feelings are hurt, but because such arguments fill them with dread. They worry about what might happen to a religious or ethnic group that policymakers or the public believe to be intrinsically and uniquely dangerous.
…if one relies on Wood and Haykel, and believes that the horrors perpetrated by ISIS are “plainly” in Islam’s sacred texts and that it is “preposterous” to argue that these texts are being distorted, then the notion that a faithful Muslim could be critiquing ISIS in a moral and rational fashion is discarded. He can only be a sympathizer, a hypocrite, or a dupe who is ignorant of the requirements of his own faith. Wood’s essay leaves readers with a gnawing fear that the majority of Muslims might wake up tomorrow and start taking their texts “seriously.” […]
You & I may be following up on the discussion of this and the articles written in response to it, but I seriously doubt most people will because the first article confirmed their fears/suspicions. The takeaway (for the casual reader) is Gelleresque, but with an intellectual veneer. If I knew that every person who read it was going to ponder it, discuss it, pick it apart the way you do, etc. then I wouldn’t be worried. Unfortunately, that’s not the case.
I don’t know how I can make myself any clearer.
389 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 10:20:20am |
In op-ed, US Attorney General Eric Holder says Justice Department will file a brief arguing ‘state bans on same-sex marriage violate the fundamental constitutional guarantee of “equal protection of the laws”’ - @USATODAY
390 | D_Red Mar 2, 2015 10:21:31am |
The only reason Texas was ever an independent country is that their first application for annexation by the United States was rejected.
391 | William Barnett-Lewis Mar 2, 2015 10:22:20am |
re: #386 The Mother Of All Pies
Somebody tell Greg Abbott that Texas is not an independent country, even though it tried to be, twice.
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We won’t mention the fact that they are more interested in being the oppressors either…
392 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 10:22:33am |
Zing!
White House press secretary says Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu ‘has not laid out that strategy’ to stop Iran from obtaining nuclear capability - @peterbakernyt
see original on twitter.com
393 | Romantic Heretic Mar 2, 2015 10:23:11am |
re: #256 Decatur Deb
Andover, NJ
My thought on seeing that picture? “Nice of them to bunch up like that.”
394 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mar 2, 2015 10:23:12am |
re: #389 Justanotherhuman
In op-ed, US Attorney General Eric Holder says Justice Department will file a brief arguing ‘state bans on same-sex marriage violate the fundamental constitutional guarantee of “equal protection of the laws”’ - @USATODAY
Please explain to the “religious freedom” advocates that they are still free to look on these people as not being married in the eyes of the Lord, but they are married in the eyes of the Law.
There is a difference between the sacrament of Holy Matrimony and the civil and legal status of marriage. There was a time when they were identical, but that is not part of a society that believes in a separation of Church and State.
395 | Mattand Mar 2, 2015 10:25:20am |
re: #386 The Mother Of All Pies
Judging by their recent Boards of Education, they have yet to learn basic science and civics, either.
396 | Great White Snark Mar 2, 2015 10:25:26am |
re: #388 CuriousLurker
All I can say in response to that is that the last three paragraphs of the article hit the nail exactly on the head for me, especially this part:
You & I may be following up on the discussion of this and the articles written in response to it, but I seriously doubt most people will because the first article confirmed their fears/suspicions. The takeaway (for the casual reader) is Gelleresque, but with an intellectual veneer. If I knew that every person who read it was going to ponder it, discuss it, pick it apart the way you do, etc. then I wouldn’t be worried. Unfortunately, that’s not the case.
I don’t know how I can make myself any clearer.
THIS. A hundred times this.
We face the sad reality that every alleged, spoken of or asserted connection from Daesh to Islamic law is going to hurt Muslims with guilt by association far more than help the effort to stop Daesh.
397 | Mattand Mar 2, 2015 10:26:09am |
398 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 10:28:38am |
re: #384 The Mother Of All Pies
Well I am planning a trip to Israel in one month and I would like to have an enjoyable vacation and return home alive in one piece.
Alabama tourism has declared this the Year of Barbecue. I can’t find a firm date for the Temple Beth El (Birmingham) Kosher BBQ fest. It still has a placeholder for May. Join your son this time. AL is not as scary as Hebron.
399 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 10:32:28am |
Got another neo-Confed in my Timeline:
@viciousbabushka @janec1890 @milesjreed Also 12,000 native Americans fought for the south http://t.co/L4NZkBn512 pic.twitter.com/SoWE0gE2t0— Greg Warlitner (@mean2greeen) March 2, 2015
400 | Nyet Mar 2, 2015 10:34:23am |
re: #388 CuriousLurker
I understand this fear. I do, however, feel strongly that that would be a wrong conclusion to draw from this approach. It does not preclude the intra-group critique. Yes, the claims of “un-Islamic” will be met with criticism. Just like one could criticize one Christian group calling another non-Christian.
But within Islam Muslims themselves have a right to draw such conclusions [though this is a double-edged sword, because ISIS also has the same right] - so this does not preclude the theological conclusions on the part of mainstream Muslim scholars that ISIS’ teachings do not correspond to the centuries of traditional, mainstream Islamic jurisprudence, theology and practice - or at least of how they see it.
(I should add though that if some of such critiques would be historically inaccurate, it would be fair on part of secular scholars to point this out, even to the detriment of the message. Amicus Plato, sed magis amica veritas.)
401 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 10:35:59am |
re: #399 The Mother Of All Pies
Got another neo-Confed in my Timeline:
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The American Indian involvement on both sides of the Civil War was largely a opportunistic continuation of a power struggle within the Cherokee nation. It started before, and continued after.
402 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mar 2, 2015 10:37:30am |
re: #399 The Mother Of All Pies
The notion that that there were other causes for the Civil War than slavery is not invalid, but the notion that it was not connected with slavery is not just tenuous, it is ludicrous. Read the declarations of secession of all the Confederate states, and they expressly mention slavery.
the “Rich man’s war and a poor man’s fight” quip came from the fact that slave owners with more than 10 slaves were exempt from military service, as they had to stay home and crack the whip over their human livestock.
403 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 10:38:18am |
re: #401 Decatur Deb
The American Indian involvement on both sides of the Civil War was largely a opportunistic continuation of a power struggle within the Cherokee nation. It started before, and continued after.
The “Five Civilized Nations” (Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Seminole & Creek) owned Black slaves. Some were adopted into the tribe.
404 | lawhawk Mar 2, 2015 10:38:24am |
Moment of levity amid a sea of derp (like the neo Confederates claiming slavery had nothing to do with the secession and insurrection by the South, even though the South explicitly declared slavery a primary reason for secession in their declarations of secession):
It's a safe car to drive as it can't hit anything… #starwars pic.twitter.com/pMByDiohzW— Dave Prowse (@isDARTHVADER) March 2, 2015
405 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 2, 2015 10:38:55am |
re: #402 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
The notion that that there were other causes for the Civil War than slavery is not invalid, but the notion that it was not connected with slavery is not just tenuous, it is ludicrous. Read the declarations of secession of all the Confederate states, and they expressly mention slavery.
the “Rich man’s war and a poor man’s fight” quip came from the fact that slave owners with more than 10 slaves were exempt from military service, as they had to stay home and crack the whip over their human livestock.
The “20-[N Word] Rule”
406 | wrenchwench Mar 2, 2015 10:39:29am |
Amazing, trailblazing physicists: http://t.co/7qLihmokGk #WomenInSTEM #darkmatter #programming via @Perimeter pic.twitter.com/C6bulQpvoN— Fermilab (@Fermilab) March 1, 2015
407 | Nyet Mar 2, 2015 10:41:29am |
Was it the Cornerstone speech that mentioned the white supremacy as the cause? Too lazy to check right now.
408 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 10:41:36am |
re: #403 The Mother Of All Pies
The “Five Civilized Nations” (Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Seminole & Creek) owned Black slaves. Some were adopted into the tribe.
Yup. They also were a refuge for escaped slaves when the terrain was remote enough. It was one of the causes for Jackson’s attacks and their displacement.
409 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 10:46:39am |
C-SPAN’s request to US Supreme Court for Wednesday release of Affordable Care Act oral argument denied; audio will have normal Friday release - @cspanJeremy
see original on twitter.com
410 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 10:48:27am |
Can you say “overshare”, kids? I knew you could.
“People want to connect and share. That's what we do.” says Mark Zuckerberg #MWC15 #IBMMobile #facebook pic.twitter.com/3Ecbxr8SLM
— Bryan Kramer (@bryankramer) March 2, 2015
411 | CuriousLurker Mar 2, 2015 10:49:10am |
re: #400 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD
I know this is prolly going to sound pretty snarky, but you say all of that with the calm assurance of one who has never been a minority on the daily receiving end of intense bigotry and group demonization. If I’m wrong, I’m sure you’ll correct me and I’ll apologize.
412 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 10:51:19am |
re: #407 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD
Confederate VP Alexander Stephens, 1861 Cornerstone Speech:
“Our new Government is founded upon exactly the opposite ideas; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition.”
413 | sagehen Mar 2, 2015 10:52:33am |
re: #407 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD
Was it the Cornerstone speech that mentioned the white supremacy as the cause? Too lazy to check right now.
The Cornerstone Speech was the one that said Jefferson was wrong on that “all men are created equal” thing, that the cornerstone on which the Confederacy was to be built was white supremacy and negro servitude.
414 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 2, 2015 10:52:38am |
Those damned vegetables are going to send you straight to hell:
Televangelist Pat Robertson thinks drinkers and pot smokers are “enslaved to vegetables” http://t.co/d1ACRliwL7 pic.twitter.com/JVk2GXHw4U— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) March 2, 2015
415 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 2, 2015 10:54:44am |
No, it is not snow you are seeing on #HuntingtonBeach, CA. That is #hail from a t-storm moving onshore. #cawx pic.twitter.com/uS9yfdKlme— WeatherNation (@WeatherNation) March 2, 2015
416 | Nyet Mar 2, 2015 10:54:48am |
Since we’re talking about utilitarianism, there is one more reason for outsiders not to accept “one true interpretation” on the basis of it being more traditional or historical (quite aside from the fact that it cannot be done).
Namely: not everything in that traditional interpretation is going to be to our liking.
Yes, it’s good when the traditional interpretation works against the crazed extremists. But the same tradition can be, for example, strongly anti-blasphemy, anti-LGBT and so on. If we accept it as one true form of a religion, one would then have to choose between the religion and, say, liberalism. This also hinders reforms. We can’t say “stick to tradition” to one group and then say “get rid of the bad parts” to another when it suits us.
417 | Justanotherhuman Mar 2, 2015 10:55:14am |
re: #414 Backwoods_Sleuth
Damn, he’s descending rapidly into the darkness of senility.
419 | Floral Giraffe Mar 2, 2015 11:02:20am |
re: #415 Backwoods_Sleuth
I’m south of there & its freaking cold! Now, I am grateful to not be shovelling snow!
420 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 2, 2015 11:04:04am |
re: #419 Floral Giraffe
I’m south of there & its freaking cold! Now, I am grateful to not be shovelling snow!
Hey you! I’ve been saving this for ya:
421 | dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Mar 2, 2015 11:06:10am |
re: #414 Backwoods_Sleuth
Televangelist Pat Robertson thinks drinkers and pot smokers are “enslaved to vegetables”
i was told to call any vegetable
call it by name!
422 | dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Mar 2, 2015 11:09:20am |
re: #421 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
i was told to call any vegetable
call it by name!
Keep Cool And Carry Yams
423 | Dave In Austin Mar 2, 2015 11:14:59am |
re: #421 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
And that vegetable will be good to you….
424 | Floral Giraffe Mar 2, 2015 11:25:47am |
re: #420 Backwoods_Sleuth
Would you mail that to me? I haven’t been able to copy it! Nic is blue :)
425 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 2, 2015 11:37:29am |
re: #424 Floral Giraffe
Would you mail that to me? I haven’t been able to copy it! Nic is blue :)
Sent!
426 | Feline Fearless Leader Mar 2, 2015 11:40:12am |
re: #396 Great White Snark
THIS. A hundred times this.
We face the sad reality that every alleged, spoken of or asserted connection from Daesh to Islamic law is going to hurt Muslims with guilt by association far more than help the effort to stop Daesh.
It’s still an asshole problem that everyone is insisting has to be viewed as a religious problem. And a lot of people assholes with agendas *want* it to be viewed as the latter.
427 | RealityBasedSteve Mar 2, 2015 3:33:50pm |
re: #421 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
i was told to call any vegetable
call it by name!
” You know. You all know exactly who I am. Say my name.”
“You’re Artichoke”
“You’re goddamn right.”
428 | Saint Stephen Mar 2, 2015 5:16:24pm |
re: #163 freetoken
They already believe in a magical America, so a magical Israel isn’t a big stretch.
429 | Decatur Deb Mar 2, 2015 5:21:44pm |
re: #428 Saint Stephen
They already believe in a magical America, so a magical Israel isn’t a big stretch.
St S—You are at the bottom of a pretty dead thread. No one will see you unless they are on the Master Spy utility. To join in, go to a thread at the upper right of the header. The current one starts “Exclusive: CPAC…”.