A Classic Horrible Racist and Sexist Ad From the 80s: Mr. Microphone
Casual racism, casual sexism, and a whole lotta stupid: the original “Mr. Microphone” ad is a lesson in how they marketed cheap gimmicks in the early 1980s.
Casual racism, casual sexism, and a whole lotta stupid: the original “Mr. Microphone” ad is a lesson in how they marketed cheap gimmicks in the early 1980s.
2 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge May 17, 2015 6:40:07pm |
re: #1 teleskiguy
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Don’t make me pull out my tardigrade again—cause you know I’ll do it!
3 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 6:43:45pm |
re: #2 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Don’t make me pull out my tardigrade again—cause you know I’ll do it!
If you do, put it behind a Spoiler button. We wouldn’t want to make innocent lizards unnecessarily nauseated.
:-P
4 | Lord Of The Pies May 17, 2015 6:46:41pm |
HURR HURR Y U SAY IT TEH RACIST!!! THEIR IS BLACKS & WHITE TOGETHER, MENS & WIMMENS TOGETHER, EVEN OLDS!!!!!! THEIR IS EVEN URQUALL BOPPIN DOWN TEH STREAT!!!!!!
5 | Lord Of The Pies May 17, 2015 6:48:46pm |
The ‘80’s, Decade of Bad Hairs!!!
Thanks, Ronnie!
6 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 6:52:14pm |
re: #4 Lord Of The Pies
HURR HURR Y U SAY IT TEH RACIST!!! THEIR IS BLACKS & WHITE TOGETHER, MENS & WIMMENS TOGETHER, EVEN OLDS!!!!!! THEIR IS EVEN URQUALL BOPPIN DOWN TEH STREAT!!!!!!
Your wingnut-speak is astounding!
8 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 6:58:00pm |
re: #5 Lord Of The Pies
The ‘80’s, Decade of Bad Hairs!!!
Thanks, Ronnie!
Dude, hair was sooo bad in the 80s. I was born in 1982, I have two older sisters. OMG their hair in school pictures and such! So bad.
9 | b.d. May 17, 2015 6:58:45pm |
I guess they are using that Texas style of questioning:
A second person put in an ambulance from the downtown building where bikers being questioned. @KCENNews pic.twitter.com/dO1pImopIJ
— Chris Davis (@KCENchris) May 18, 2015
10 | Lord Of The Pies May 17, 2015 6:59:34pm |
1980’s: The Decade All The White People Let Their Afros Grow Out
11 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 7:01:12pm |
re: #10 Lord Of The Pies
1980’s: The Decade All The White People Let Their Afros Grow Out
Only with assistance from toxic hairsprays and gels!
13 | ObserverArt May 17, 2015 7:03:55pm |
Heh.
This reminds me of something I’ve always wanted to see happen. It would be sort of a Spinal Tap type of gig.
You know how a lot of bands had tons of Marshall double-stacks all across the stage…both sides of the drum kit. It was true especially for the harder bands in the 70s. Still some metal bands do it today.
I always wanted to see the lead player have about 100 to 120 of the original Pignose Amps stacked all up, maybe held in racks that weren’t real obvious. All Pignose Wall o’ Sound.
Then a tech comes out with his flashlight on the darkened stage and has to turn each and everyone on. Probably take about ten minutes or more.
Plus, I wonder what 100 Pignose amps would sound like?
For those that are unfamiliar…The Pignose. All of 6.5” wide and about 10” tall. 5 Watts into a 5” speaker.
14 | b.d. May 17, 2015 7:05:02pm |
Give the 80s a break. It was a time when generally annoying electronic devices were large, expensive, heavy and rare.
15 | Charles Johnson May 17, 2015 7:07:15pm |
Apparently Texas officials like to honor known gangs. ? Many more where I found those. @Green_Footballs pic.twitter.com/mBoIXUh2gC
— ProgressGeorgia (@ProgressGA) May 18, 2015
16 | RealityBasedSteve May 17, 2015 7:08:51pm |
re: #10 Lord Of The Pies
1980’s: The Decade All The White People Let Their Afros Grow Out
I have very fine blonde hair (before I started shaving it about 10 years ago) and there are some pictures of me from the early 80’s with a big curly perm… Yea… that’s probably why I never ran for office.
RBS
17 | Charles Johnson May 17, 2015 7:10:03pm |
re: #13 ObserverArt
Joe Walsh’s famous hit song Rocky Mountain Way was played through a Pignose.
18 | stpaulbear May 17, 2015 7:10:07pm |
re: #14 b.d.
Give the 80s a break. It was a time when generally annoying electronic devices were large, expensive, heavy and rare.
And you had to go to the record store to buy your music.
19 | ObserverArt May 17, 2015 7:10:15pm |
Later folks. And sorry if all of a sudden you see Pignose Amps for sale in the ads if you see the ads.
$79.95!
20 | b.d. May 17, 2015 7:10:38pm |
re: #18 stpaulbear
And you had to go to the record store to buy your music.
And you had to pay for it!
21 | CuriousLurker May 17, 2015 7:10:47pm |
These days I only have the most basic cable package required to also have high-speed internet service, so I don’t have access to cable news (nor do I want it), but I’m curious to know how the media is treating this shootout in Waco… Is it getting constant wall-to-wall coverage?
22 | ObserverArt May 17, 2015 7:12:49pm |
re: #17 Charles Johnson
Joe Walsh’s famous hit song Rocky Mountain Way was played through a Pignose.
Does not surprise me at all. Crank the little sucker and mic the hell out of it.
Later!
24 | makeitstop May 17, 2015 7:14:06pm |
re: #13 ObserverArt
Heh.
This reminds me of something I’ve always wanted to see happen. It would be sort of a Spinal Tap type of gig.
You know how a lot of bands had tons of Marshall double-stacks all across the stage…both sides of the drum kit. It was true especially for the harder bands in the 70s. Still some metal bands do it today.
I always wanted to see the lead player have about 100 to 120 of the original Pignose Amps stacked all up, maybe held in racks that weren’t real obvious. All Pignose Wall o’ Sound.
Then a tech comes out with his flashlight on the darkened stage and has to turn each and everyone on. Probably take about ten minutes or more.
Plus, I wonder what 100 Pignose amps would sound like?
For those that are unfamiliar…The Pignose. All of 6.5” wide and about 10” tall. 5 Watts into a 5” speaker.
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I always liked Brian May’s take on multiple amps. Vox AC-30s, to be exact.
25 | stpaulbear May 17, 2015 7:17:58pm |
There’s a front moving through St Paul right now and it’s super windy outside. We had a horrid straight-line windstorm about a dozen years ago and high winds have scared the hell out of me ever since. That was the year I realized that ‘normal’ doesn’t exist anymore.
26 | Roger S May 17, 2015 7:21:48pm |
I wouldn’t call this racist and not sure about the sexism. It’s just really corny and goofy in my book.
28 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 7:23:43pm |
re: #24 makeitstop
I always liked Brian May’s take on multiple amps. Vox AC-30s, to be exact.
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Dude, that’s excessive.
I mean, I understand the technical limitations of amplification in the olden days. Brian May can be excused to have all those fucking amplifiers behind him during a concert in the 70s, I suppose.
If a musician does it today, it’s a gimmick. Unless they are playing in a tiny club. I’ve seen a couple of bands do this. Four Marshall double-stacks in a tiny club? OK, you’re making a statement there, I get it.
My favorite rock act, Umphrey’s McGee, their setup is just enough to make every sound they need to make. A single cabinet for the bassist, and two amplifiers for each of the guitarists, that’s it! Let the PA make it louder.
29 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 7:29:01pm |
If this Waco shit (9 dead. 100 guns) happened in Baltimore, they'd be occupying Maryland w/the Nat Guard, the Canadian Mounties & the IDF.
— Dave Zirin (@EdgeofSports) May 18, 2015
30 | Kragar May 17, 2015 7:31:23pm |
re: #29 teleskiguy
I guess I missed the part where conservatives called for the cops to shoot bikers in the street to restore order. #WacoShooting
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) May 18, 2015
31 | Drive By Commenter May 17, 2015 7:32:01pm |
re: #17 Charles Johnson
Joe Walsh’s famous hit song Rocky Mountain Way was played through a Pignose.
Low watt amps work like charms in studios with mics. Early breakup and easy overdrive and distortion. To get a 100 watt Twin Reverb to sing you have to kill the first three rows of people. Low watts break up and distort much easier. I played way back with a 66 Pro Reverb, which I still have, pushing two 4x10 cabs. Christmas. With a 1966 Les Paul Custom and a Univox Super Fuzz.
Man oh man. They loved us, but they were high. Like us….We approached Grand Funk levels. In bars. We moved people. Literally. Stand right there and die. Move over a foot. Kill zone. great. Thanks.Then we discovered miking.
32 | Charles Johnson May 17, 2015 7:32:02pm |
re: #26 Roger S
I wouldn’t call this racist and not sure about the sexism. It’s just really corny and goofy in my book.
You seem to have difficulties recognizing racism: littlegreenfootballs.com
33 | Charles Johnson May 17, 2015 7:33:56pm |
Because most people would see an image of a black guy dancing like he’s in a minstrel show and recognize the racism. Just sayin’.
34 | makeitstop May 17, 2015 7:34:33pm |
re: #28 teleskiguy
Dude, that’s excessive.
I mean, I understand the technical limitations of amplification in the olden days. Brian May can be excused to have all those fucking amplifiers behind him during a concert in the 70s, I suppose.
If a musician does it today, it’s a gimmick. Unless they are playing in a tiny club. I’ve seen a couple of bands do this. Four Marshall double-stacks in a tiny club? OK, you’re making a statement there, I get it.
My favorite rock act, Umphrey’s McGee, their setup is just enough to make every sound they need to make. A single cabinet for the bassist, and two amplifiers for each of the guitarists, that’s it! Let the PA make it louder.
Those ‘limited’ amps are still being made the same way today. They’re actually very good amps.
As far as I’m concerned, musicians are allowed to have their ‘gimmicks.’ People pay for the spectacle as much as the music is some cases.
35 | Charles Johnson May 17, 2015 7:36:08pm |
And harassing a woman on the street tends to be viewed by reasonable people as sexism. Just sayin’. Again.
36 | ObserverArt May 17, 2015 7:36:37pm |
37 | Charles Johnson May 17, 2015 7:36:41pm |
And here’s me, wondering why I even have to explain these things.
38 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 7:38:57pm |
re: #36 ObserverArt
For Teleskiguy.
Nobody had amps and speakers like the Dead. Circa 1974 Image.
Had to post this!
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Isn’t that Owsley’s Wall of Sound? Which proved to be horribly uneconomical and (dare I say it) too loud.
39 | RealityBasedSteve May 17, 2015 7:39:17pm |
re: #24 makeitstop
I always liked Brian May’s take on multiple amps. Vox AC-30s, to be exact.
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Ok, help out a non-musician again. What’s the purpose of the mikes? Is it to take the actual “Sound Output” (for lack of a more elegant term for it) and then run it into the second amp to further push it up and add more “Complexity” to it with distortion / harmonics?
Again, be gentle.
RBS
40 | Bear May 17, 2015 7:41:14pm |
Wonder if the players that used all those amps were/are able to hear anything now.. I thought sitting beside a 30 cal machine gun was bad for hearing but—.
41 | makeitstop May 17, 2015 7:41:24pm |
re: #31 Drive By Commenter
Low watt amps work like charms in studios with mics. Early breakup and easy overdrive and distortion. To get a 100 watt Twin Reverb to sing you have to kill the first three rows of people. Low watts break up and distort much easier. I played way back with a 66 Pro Reverb, which I still have, pushing two 4x10 cabs. Christmas. With a 1966 Les Paul Custom and a [Embedded content]
Man oh man. They loved us, but they were high. Like us….We approached Grand Funk levels. In bars. We moved people. Literally. Stand right there and die. Move over a foot. Kill zone. great. Thanks.Then we discovered miking.
Hey, Mr ‘Les Pauls through Marshalls’ himself, Jimmy Page, recorded the first Zeppelin album with a Supro Thunderbolt (35 watts IIRC) and a Telecaster.
42 | Charles Johnson May 17, 2015 7:41:56pm |
Even in the 1980s, when this ad first came out, I was appalled at the racism and sexism of it. But here I am in 2015 still having to explain why it’s racist and sexist. Have we really advanced so little in three decades?
43 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 7:42:28pm |
re: #37 Charles Johnson
And here’s me, wondering why I even have to explain these things.
44 | makeitstop May 17, 2015 7:43:00pm |
re: #39 RealityBasedSteve
Ok, help out a non-musician again. What’s the purpose of the mikes? Is it to take the actual “Sound Output” (for lack of a more elegant term for it) and then run it into the second amp to further push it up and add more “Complexity” to it with distortion / harmonics?
Again, be gentle.
RBS
The mics run to the front of house sound system, where the levels are jacked up to ‘rip your ears off your head’ levels..
45 | CuriousLurker May 17, 2015 7:43:53pm |
46 | ObserverArt May 17, 2015 7:45:35pm |
re: #39 RealityBasedSteve
Ok, help out a non-musician again. What’s the purpose of the mikes? Is it to take the actual “Sound Output” (for lack of a more elegant term for it) and then run it into the second amp to further push it up and add more “Complexity” to it with distortion / harmonics?
Again, be gentle.
RBS
You mike the amps to feed into the PA. You get a better mixed sound out to the audience through the PA rather than a real hot stage with a ton of cranked amps. Better on musician’s ears too. You get a lower level on the stage and the band can really hear each other too.
Then you also can get a better monitor mix to the stage, and today if you notice, they also put the monitor/PA mix into their ears with ear buds.
Let the sound dudes get it right from the back of the hall!
It did take some time to get the PA systems good enough, and some of the musicians to give up running all four stacks too.
See Spinal Tap.
47 | GlutenFreeJesus May 17, 2015 7:47:51pm |
re: #15 Charles Johnson
Sons of Anarchy is more real than we realize.
48 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge May 17, 2015 7:48:39pm |
re: #34 makeitstop
Those ‘limited’ amps are still being made the same way today. They’re actually very good amps.
As far as I’m concerned, musicians are allowed to have their ‘gimmicks.’ People pay for the spectacle as much as the music is some cases.
Some of the bar bands I used to go see…well, 30 years ago and more, would use Phase Linear 700s when those were still around. Maybe it was a local thing, this being Carver Country™.
49 | RealityBasedSteve May 17, 2015 7:50:43pm |
50 | makeitstop May 17, 2015 7:52:45pm |
re: #48 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Some of the bar bands I used to go see…well, 30 years ago and more, would use Phase Linear 700s when those were still around. Maybe it was a local thing, this being Carver CountryTM.
We used Phase Linear amps in our sound system in those days. We had a rack with six of them in it. I thanked my lucky stars every day that I had a road crew and I didn’t have to lift that thing.
The biggest guitar rig I ever used was two Fender Deluxe Reverbs - each one powering a Bandmaster extension cabinet. Not extremely powerful, but it looked pretty impressive. :)
Marshalls came later, but I never used a double stack. One 50 watt head and one cabinet was sufficient.
51 | Charles Johnson May 17, 2015 7:56:12pm |
Always interesting to me when someone dumps a comment denying racism and sexism, then immediately signs out.
52 | Timothy Watson May 17, 2015 7:59:33pm |
Starting a Mass Effect 2 playthrough: Male or Female? Paragon or Renegade?
53 | Kragar May 17, 2015 8:02:00pm |
re: #52 Timothy Watson
Starting a Mass Effect 2 playthrough: Male or Female? Paragon or Renegade?
Female renegade
54 | stpaulbear May 17, 2015 8:05:12pm |
re: #44 makeitstop
The mics run to the front of house sound system, where the levels are jacked up to ‘rip your ears off your head’ levels..
I was in a band that got to play the main room at First Avenue but we couldn’t afford any roadies so we set up all our own gear and I’d wind up tapping away on the drums to get them tuned and get a little base drum in the monitors. I always loved it when they’d flip on the front sound while I was noodling away. All of a sudden my playing was a giant ‘KA-BOOM’ bouncing off the back walls. I loved it when we got to the level that we were playing clubs with a great PA so you didn’t have to overplay on stage.
55 | CuriousLurker May 17, 2015 8:05:13pm |
So two more BASE jumpers died today. I really don’t get that “sport”. Why? Must be for the adrenaline rush… *smh*
56 | Jenner7 May 17, 2015 8:05:39pm |
I know we need the rain here, but two (going on three) straight weeks of it is just driving me crazy. At least it let up a little today, so I could get some yard work done.
Plus, it doesn’t help that I have to put a garbage can at the bottom of the basement stairs to prevent it from going in my house.
57 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 8:06:18pm |
re: #34 makeitstop
Those ‘limited’ amps are still being made the same way today. They’re actually very good amps.
I have a Marshall knee-high. My pops has Roland, Marshall, and Fender knee-high amplifiers. Friends of mine proudly play through their Vox knee-highs.
I was talking about amplification of large venues. Back when, they thought it was a good idea to stack a shit-ton of speakers onstage to make it loud (think Led Zeppelin before 1970).
Sound engineering has come quite a long ways since the days of loading up the stage with speakers everywhere #36.
58 | Jenner7 May 17, 2015 8:09:38pm |
Al Shapton should just troll white people one time by going to Waco to address their community.
— Rod TBGWT (@rodimusprime) May 17, 2015
Ha!
59 | Aunty Entity Dragon May 17, 2015 8:15:56pm |
Really, really unhappy with Fucked-up non-stop gratutious sadistic sex show on HBO Game of Thrones.
The rape scene with Sansa after her wedding was just too damned much. The entire show has become who gets raped and maimed or who does the raping and maiming.
Ooh…and characters get killed because GRR Martin likes more dead people. And naked breasts.
60 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 8:19:10pm |
Because I know that most hardcore lizards are honest with themselves and their surroundings, I feel compelled to share this tweet of mine. This is the first tweet of mine that relates to the massacre in Waco, TX this afternoon.
#2A #Murka #tcot #TittiesNBeer RT @Gus_802: 9 dead in Waco, TX biker gang shootout. I'm sure they were all legally carrying guns in Texas.
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) May 17, 2015
I don’t know how I feel about it.
61 | Timothy Watson May 17, 2015 8:21:13pm |
re: #59 Aunty Entity Dragon
I got annoyed with changes in the show from the source material last season and I kinda bailed after they killed off a character who’s still kicking in the books this season.
I didn’t imagine that they would go that far.
62 | makeitstop May 17, 2015 8:21:19pm |
re: #57 teleskiguy
I have a Marshall knee-high. My pops has Roland, Marshall, and Fender knee-high amplifiers. Friends of mine proudly play through their Vox knee-highs.
I was talking about amplification of large venues. Back when, they thought it was a good idea to stack a shit-ton of speakers onstage to make it loud (think Led Zeppelin before 1970).
Sound engineering has come quite a long ways since the days of loading up the stage with speakers everywhere #36.
Fact of the matter is, probably 2/3 of those amps weren’t even plugged in, and maybe two of them were actually being used.
I saw Motley Crue’s stage rig up close once. Nikki Sixx had ten Ampeg SVTs on stage, and eight of them didn’t even have speakers in the cabinets.
Smoke and mirrors, dude. People want to see Nikki Sixx’ ten SVTs.
63 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 8:25:28pm |
64 | Aunty Entity Dragon May 17, 2015 8:25:44pm |
re: #61 Timothy Watson
I got annoyed with changes in the show from the source material last season and I kinda bailed after they killed off a character who’s still kicking in the books this season.
I didn’t imagine that would that far.
I didn’t think the writers were going to be that stupid. So, we confirm the utter predictability that any decent character will be tortured, raped or murdered and the stupid evil characters will also be tortured and/or murdered.
65 | Eclectic Cyborg May 17, 2015 8:27:21pm |
re: #37 Charles Johnson
And here’s me, wondering why I even have to explain these things.
It’s a sad commentary on things isn’t it?
66 | Eclectic Cyborg May 17, 2015 8:29:55pm |
I wonder if CCJ has ever tried to register an account here?
67 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 8:31:02pm |
re: #66 Eclectic Cyborg
I wonder if CCJ has ever tried to register an account here?
An interesting and horrible question.
68 | William Lewis May 17, 2015 8:34:44pm |
re: #59 Aunty Entity Dragon
I’ve disliked the series since throwing away book one half way through it. The TV show simply uses it’s post modern fantasy take on the War of The Roses as an excuse to show tits and swords. There is nothing interesting about it. As I’ve said before, Shakespeare’s Richard would be too ethical to survive…
69 | makeitstop May 17, 2015 8:35:38pm |
70 | Eclectic Cyborg May 17, 2015 8:40:11pm |
Finally put the finishing touches on a poem I’ve been working on for awhile:
OBITUARY
I died last night at a struck stop near a dusty road in Maine,
Drove up that way from Carolina for a cure to stop the pain.
Wondered in about 11:30…or was it 12 you figure?
Didn’t care about anything except my hand firm on the trigger.
I died yesterday in shadows, about a block from Miami Beach,
The drugs finally overwhelmed me, my end was close in reach.
I paid the price of a hundred needles, a boatload of sweet cocaine,
now I’m off to the afterlife, in never ending pain.
I died this morning in Vegas, in a hotel right off the strip,
It was supposed nothing but harmless fun, a simple pleasure trip,
But as hell rides in the desert, I made a huge mistake that day,
and would up owing a greater debt than any man should have to pay.
I was killed in New York City, gunned down right near Times Square,
Those who really knew me wouldn’t have a clue why I was there.
That’s what I get for running away, and not telling a single soul,
and so it’s here my rebellion ends, in a simple six foot hole.
I died tonight in New Orleans, collapsed right on Bourbon street,
just before I was drunk as could be, barely standing on my feet.
I must have been trying to pick a fight, got too far into someone’s space,
and now I’m laying motionless, the cold ground against my face.
I will die tomorrow in Pittsburgh and it’s enough to make me shiver,
but I suspect they’ll find my body down the Allegheny river.
Yes I’ll meet my end in steel town, and it’s no one’s fault but mine,
I always thought I’d survive anything. I guess I’ll be wrong this time.
I died today in Colorado, home of the Rocky Mountain pride,
There was no escape for me, I was too torn up inside.
If maybe I had summoned some courage, taken some time to talk,
I wouldn’t have ended my somber days upon this jagged rock.
I died tonight in Nashville, deep within the music city,
you probably want some details but it really wasn’t pretty,
There was a man with a six string and a shiny .45
I’m not too sure exactly why, but now I’m not alive.
I’ve died all over this country, but did it really mean a thing
beyond a few cold funeral bells and countless hollow rings?
And all that I’m left wondering, despite everything I gave,
is just who will be among the mourners standing at my grave?
71 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 8:41:30pm |
Texas governor Greg Abbott has yet to make a single statement in re: Waco Biker Gang Massacre 2015.
I’ve lived in Colorado my whole life. We’ve had some awfully high profile murder sprees happen while I’ve been here. Columbine. Aurora Theater. The governor said something to the public mere hours after these things happened (Gov. Bill Owens [R] in ‘99, Gov. John Hickenlooper [D] in 2013)
Greg Abbott? Nothing, so far.
72 | William Lewis May 17, 2015 8:42:44pm |
Thinking about amps, I’d still like a nice amp in the 10 - 20 watt range. I don’t need that much sound but that’s where the features tend to be nicest: reverb & tremolo and decent crunch when you dime it.
More practical is the 6 watt (that is easily modded to 10 watts) version. Lighter & cheaper too. But then I have to invest in a better reverb pedal than I have :)
The little micro-amps like the Pignose are interesting but I really want to get old fashioned and play with vacuum tubes and a spring tank reverb :D
73 | Lancelot Link May 17, 2015 8:46:40pm |
i still occasionally use a Pignose Gorilla i got in the 80s.
74 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 8:46:40pm |
re: #71 teleskiguy
Even the Presidents of the U.S. said something shortly after these massacres. Bill Clinton commented on Columbine while there was still bodies in the school. Barack Obama commented on the massacre in Aurora while there were still bodies in the theater.
Greg Abbott. Hello?
75 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 8:50:18pm |
re: #74 teleskiguy
Tweeted 35 minutes ago by Texas governor Greg Abbott.
Enjoyed having @HudsonMoore perform at the Governor's Mansion. Fabulous music talent. pic.twitter.com/M2QdGGGYAE
— Greg Abbott (@GregAbbott_TX) May 18, 2015
76 | makeitstop May 17, 2015 8:51:28pm |
re: #72 William Lewis
Thinking about amps, I’d still like a nice amp in the 10 - 20 watt range. I don’t need that much sound but that’s where the features tend to be nicest: reverb & tremolo and decent crunch when you dime it.
More practical is the 6 watt (that is easily modded to 10 watts) version. Lighter & cheaper too. But then I have to invest in a better reverb pedal than I have :)
The little micro-amps like the Pignose are interesting but I really want to get old fashioned and play with vacuum tubes and a spring tank reverb :D
BTW, I watched the Mark Knopfler clip you posted and really enjoyed it. I was surprised to see John Monteleone’s appearance - I love his guitars. A friend of mine here on Long island is sort of a protege of his, and builds some beautiful guitars in the same style.
77 | jaunte May 17, 2015 8:52:14pm |
re: #75 teleskiguy
When the governor finally speaks:
Right-Wing Waco Narrative: 1. They only shot at each other. 2. Guns were illegal. 3. They didn't riot. 4. Yes but, black on black crime.
— Gus (@Gus_802) May 18, 2015
78 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 8:53:40pm |
The fact that the governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, is so disengaged with what’s going on in his state, it makes me sick. There’s an ongoing huge crime that affects the lives of possibly many thousands of Texans, and he’s fucking oblivious, it seems.
79 | makeitstop May 17, 2015 8:54:44pm |
Sorry, screwed up the link there.
80 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 8:56:52pm |
81 | jaunte May 17, 2015 8:59:05pm |
God gives different people different talents. Wherever He has you, He has you there for a purpose. Romans 12:6 @ArmorOGod
— Greg Abbott (@GregAbbott_TX) May 17, 2015
Apparently Greg has been told by higher authority to keep silent on Waco.
82 | jaunte May 17, 2015 8:59:43pm |
Congratulations @HoustonRockets beating Clippers to advance in the playoffs. Make Texas proud.
— Greg Abbott (@GregAbbott_TX) May 18, 2015
83 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 9:01:19pm |
re: #82 jaunte
Jesus Fucking Criminitely! Holy fucking shitballs!
85 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 9:02:44pm |
Hey, one of the crimes of the century took place in your state today, and you're talking about fucking sports. https://t.co/LkAb5vtv1n
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) May 18, 2015
86 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 9:04:20pm |
re: #84 jaunte
I mean, whoa. I’m taken quite aback. Greg Abbott is horrible.
87 | Kragar May 17, 2015 9:05:52pm |
The Stupidparty can not see that the Joke is on them. http://t.co/60kV0ZzgJj pic.twitter.com/SWNDWUebGt
— Patrick M (@andendall) May 17, 2015
88 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 9:07:11pm |
OK, my blood pressure has gone down some. I called the governor of Texas an asshole on Twitter.
.@GregAbbott_TX Hey asshole, a huge fucking massacre involving criminal biker thugs occurred in the state you govern. Care to comment?
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) May 18, 2015
89 | jaunte May 17, 2015 9:07:59pm |
re: #88 teleskiguy
He’s probably not the one tweeting on his account.
90 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 9:09:06pm |
re: #89 jaunte
He’s probably not the one tweeting on his account.
I know. It’s still kind of fun, and I have calmed down some.
91 | jaunte May 17, 2015 9:11:34pm |
re: #88 teleskiguy
OK, my blood pressure has gone down some. I called the governor of Texas an asshole on Twitter.
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Retweeted.
92 | Eclectic Cyborg May 17, 2015 9:12:07pm |
re: #89 jaunte
He’s probably not the one tweeting on his account.
That still doesn’t excuse the lack of a public statement. Either He or his public relations team should have been on that shit from the get go.
This really is a massive PR fail, though somehow I doubt Abbott and Co. are going to get much blowback for it.
93 | alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin May 17, 2015 9:12:14pm |
re: #88 teleskiguy
Ya, good luck with that. This is the GoP PR approach. Whoever is tweeting that is some marketing major fratlife graduate who’s playing their game.
Walker has had at least 3 of them that were falling up.
94 | alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin May 17, 2015 9:13:43pm |
re: #92 Eclectic Cyborg
So it’s not really a PR fail.
95 | Kragar May 17, 2015 9:14:04pm |
He's too busy worrying about US troops in Texas to do anything about Waco @teleskiguy @GregAbbott_TX
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) May 18, 2015
96 | Eclectic Cyborg May 17, 2015 9:14:54pm |
re: #94 alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin
So it’s not really a PR fail.
From most sensible perspectives it is. From a Texas perspective? Well, who the hell knows?
97 | jaunte May 17, 2015 9:14:59pm |
Greg Abbott last night at University of North Texas:
“You will have many more achievements, and, inevitably, you will face many more challenges,” he told the crowd of thousands. “Those challenges don’t determine your destiny: You do. Your lives won’t be defined by how you are challenged, instead by how you respond to life’s challenges.”
wfaa.com
98 | Kragar May 17, 2015 9:16:31pm |
Yeah, why would a Governor be concerned about at least 5 major gangs having a shootout in one his towns? @AlphaRomeo223 @teleskiguy
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) May 18, 2015
99 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 9:20:45pm |
Jesus fuck. I mean, I know Twitter isn’t representative of humans ‘n’ stuff. But tonight, with just the interactions I’m getting on my account, I don’t know, man.
I see real double standards.
100 | jaunte May 17, 2015 9:22:33pm |
re: #98 Kragar
Somewhere in Cruzader’s timeline I know he has a terrible concern about the President handling something personally at 3am.
101 | Eclectic Cyborg May 17, 2015 9:22:54pm |
re: #99 teleskiguy
Jesus fuck. I mean, I know Twitter isn’t representative of humans ‘n’ stuff. But tonight, with just the interactions I’m getting on my account, I don’t know, man.
I see real double standards.
You mean re: Waco?
102 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 9:24:01pm |
re: #101 Eclectic Cyborg
You mean re: Waco?
Black/White mostly. ANd Poor/Rich, Rural/Urban…
I’m tired, no more tonight.
104 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 9:25:40pm |
Kragar, bless you. Not afraid to call dumbasses dumbasses and end it there. I should do that more.
105 | Kragar May 17, 2015 9:25:42pm |
Just so we're clear @AlphaRomeo223 pic.twitter.com/9IiOckMMLG
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) May 18, 2015
106 | Amory Blaine May 17, 2015 9:29:05pm |
re: #79 makeitstop
OMG the Whale Watching guitar is awesome.
107 | austin_blue May 17, 2015 9:30:09pm |
re: #36 ObserverArt
For Teleskiguy.
Nobody had amps and speakers like the Dead. Circa 1974 Image.
Had to post this!
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497 JBL speakers pushed by 25,000 watts of McIntosh amps. Undistorted sound at 1/4 of a mile. That was the ‘big set”.
108 | William Lewis May 17, 2015 9:31:38pm |
re: #76 makeitstop
BTW, I watched the Mark Knopfler clip you posted and really enjoyed it. I was surprised to see John Monteleone’s appearance - I love his guitars. A friend of mine here on Long island is sort of a protege of his, and builds some beautiful guitars in the same style.
I’m a solid body kind of guy - I really don’t have much use for archtops. But Mr. Monteleone’s work? That could change my mind.
I need to go check your friend’s site now…
Edit to add: Ok, that Mirabella Jazz Custom Archtop Electric? That’s just pure classic class. Exquisite.
109 | Kragar May 17, 2015 9:36:34pm |
Apparently biker gangs fighting in the streets is no big deal in Texas. #WacoShooting https://t.co/DLL67SEvxw
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) May 18, 2015
110 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 9:42:10pm |
#WhitePrivilege: When CNN call a bloodbath with at least nine dead a…… ”Brawl” #Waco pic.twitter.com/fs5E3NQZHd
— TheObamaCAT (@TheObamaCat) May 18, 2015
Here’s some of that “double-standard” I espouse in my #99.
111 | jaunte May 17, 2015 9:44:23pm |
Just to be perfectly clear, in the middle of this massive shootout and fight, the Police killed approximately…no one, correct? Who knew?
— Malcolm Johnson (@admiralmpj) May 18, 2015
112 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 9:48:20pm |
113 | First As Tragedy, Then As Farce May 17, 2015 9:49:01pm |
re: #109 Kragar
What’s the angle that we’re supposed to be outraged about? Gun violence? Or maybe bikers in general?
It’s fucking WACO. I lived there entirely tooooo long, and will never do so again.
Sometimes bad shit really does happen because the place where it happens is a fertile ground for bad shit to happen. Waco is just such a place.
Take my word for it: you can be sure that every bad thing you’ve ever heard about Waco, TX is simply a feature of the town.
Some stereotypes are true.
114 | austin_blue May 17, 2015 9:51:25pm |
re: #109 Kragar
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The silence is appalling. This is the biggest mass killing since Fort Hood in 2009, but it’s <crickets> out there.
The obvious take on this is that guns don’t kill people, assholes kill people, and these assholes all had guns.
So why do we let assholes have guns?
Stupid, stupid Wacons, being warned about this and letting the “meet” go on. Please stay out of Austin.
Oh, wait:
You will notice that Lynyrd Skynyrd will be doing a live show of their final album Band on the Runway on June 13. I’ll be running the production of a classical music festival the first two weeks of June. Missing the ROT rally is a blessing.
115 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 9:54:34pm |
re: #114 austin_blue
The silence is appalling. This is the biggest mass killing since Fort Hood in 2009, but it’s crickets out there.
I’m right there with you, man! Fucking crickets from Austin. I’ve commented five or six times tonight in this thread of the total silence from Gov. Abbott.
116 | Kragar May 17, 2015 9:55:02pm |
re: #113 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce
I find this amazingly sad yet not surprising.
117 | First As Tragedy, Then As Farce May 17, 2015 10:00:19pm |
re: #114 austin_blue
1) It’s Waco.
2) The entity popularly known as “Lenyrd Skynyd” does not exist in any real sense. “One by one, the members of the pre-crash band have left, been forced out, or have died.” What you’ll get today is at best a 2nd-rate cover band who should call themselves “Larry Schooner” or suchlike. Not that the real band was anything worth remembering.
118 | First As Tragedy, Then As Farce May 17, 2015 10:12:34pm |
re: #116 Kragar
96/100 It’s not a random rampage shooting like people are accustomed to hearing about. It’s [probably] a pissed-off redneck with either remarkably accurate, or remarkably wild aim.
119 | readyfreddy815 May 17, 2015 10:14:14pm |
re: #36 ObserverArt
For Teleskiguy.
Nobody had amps and speakers like the Dead. Circa 1974 Image.
Had to post this!
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Correction! Nobody had amps and speakers like BOB HEIL.
Coincidentally, Bob is also best buds with Joe Walsh. (and he’s also my neighbor)
120 | teleskiguy May 17, 2015 10:36:53pm |
Damn. It has sunk in. I called the governor of Texas an asshole on the internet.
.@GregAbbott_TX Hey asshole, a huge fucking massacre involving criminal biker thugs occurred in the state you govern. Care to comment?
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) May 18, 2015
I know that Gov, Abbott probably doesn’t see all his social media. Still…
I think I did a’ight!
121 | sagehen May 17, 2015 10:49:21pm |
to those posting Game of Thrones comments…
ON THE NIGHT IT AIRS, PLEASE USE SPOILER CUTS!!
kthxbye
122 | klys (maker of Silmarils) May 17, 2015 10:56:20pm |
re: #114 austin_blue
The silence is appalling. This is the biggest mutual mass killing since Fort Hood in 2009, but it’s <crickets> out there.
The obvious take on this is that guns don’t kill people, assholes kill people, and these assholes all had guns.
So why do we let assholes have guns?
Stupid, stupid Wacons, being warned about this and letting the “meet” go on. Please stay out of Austin.
Oh, wait:
You will notice that Lynyrd Skynyrd will be doing a live show of their final album Band on the Runway on June 13. I’ll be running the production of a classical music festival the first two weeks of June. Missing the ROT rally is a blessing.
Unless we’re talking about Texas only, I fixed it for you.
If you were, I apologize, wasn’t clear and there have been a few more mass killings since then.
123 | DodgerFan1988 May 17, 2015 10:59:49pm |
re: #15 Charles Johnson
The conservative media has yet to call the biker gangs “thugs.”
124 | Roger S May 17, 2015 11:11:19pm |
re: #32 Charles Johnson
Maybe you just see it where I wouldn’t. I see corny guy in a low budget commercial from the eighties trying to look cool jamming with his Mr. Microphone and boombox. I respect your concerns. I am an anti-racist as well, we just seem to be individuals with differing thresholds of what warrants that label.
125 | BeachDem May 17, 2015 11:11:25pm |
Who could have predicted?
Swanton said managers at the restaurant were aware that tensions between biker gangs were building at the location. The restaurant was hosting a biker event where at least two gangs were using the restaurant as a place to recruit new members, Swanton said...
As Sunday’s event at the restaurant neared, police renewed their pleas to Twin Peaks management to shut the event down, even going as far as to contact the restaurant’s national headquarters to see if they could pressure the Waco franchise to cancel its biker-related events…
Between 150 and 200 bikers packed the restaurant Sunday, crowding a full bar and patio area…
Bikers shot and stabbed each other before turning their sights on officers as police moved in, Swanton said. Officers exchanged fire with bikers, but no police were injured…
And the “we are shocked that there is gambling at Rick’s” response from the dickhead restaurant folks:
“We are horrified by the criminal, violent acts that occurred outside of our Waco restaurant today. We share in the community’s trauma. Our priority is to provide a safe and enjoyable environment for our customers and employees, and we consider the police our partners in doing so. Our management team has had ongoing and positive communications with the police and we will continue to work with them as we all want to keep violent crime out of our businesses and community. We will continue to cooperate with the police as they investigate this terrible crime.”
And the gov’s talking about basketball. Ugh.
127 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 17, 2015 11:18:40pm |
re: #121 sagehen
to those posting Game of Thrones comments…
ON THE NIGHT IT AIRS, PLEASE USE SPOILER CUTS!!
kthxbye
I second the motion. I can’t watch it live on HBO, but have to dl it after the fact.
Though I have to admit, given Sansa’s current situation, I am not surprised. The Boltons are weird. fucked-up people.
129 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 17, 2015 11:34:52pm |
The politically astute on Twitter, case number 1.245,953
The latest comment from Mr Elk about pitting Harriet Tubman’s image on the $20 bill.
@liguy743 @ChuckCJohnson @goddamnedfrank Andrew Jackson was a typical democrat, so democrats probably love him.
— Jason Neal (@Elk_Eater) May 17, 2015
130 | goddamnedfrank May 17, 2015 11:43:36pm |
The point was that only another racist Christian Identity nationalist would give a fuck about dead Tim McVeigh’s reaction. @ChuckCJohnson
— Photonic Gaucho (@goddamnedfrank) May 18, 2015
132 | goddamnedfrank May 18, 2015 12:02:02am |
Love that Chuck totally ignores his tweet about “anti-white federal government activity” https://t.co/JXn5ThpY0V @Kragar_LGF @ChuckCJohnson
— Photonic Gaucho (@goddamnedfrank) May 18, 2015
Yeah, it’s totally a coincidence that he’s talking about the “anti-white” federal government just before brining up McVeigh’s hypothetical disappointment. Chuck knows he’s a far right racist nationalist, he should just admit it. The only thing he ever really quibbles on is the term “supremacy.” And I know far too many racist white men with Asian fetishes to lend any credence to this pedantic hair splitting nonsense.
133 | goddamnedfrank May 18, 2015 12:13:20am |
re: #59 Aunty Entity Dragon
Really, really unhappy with
Fucked-up non-stop gratutious sadistic sex show on HBOGame of Thrones.The rape scene with Sansa after her wedding was just too damned much. The entire show has become who gets raped and maimed or who does the raping and maiming.
Ooh…and characters get killed because GRR Martin likes more dead people. And naked breasts.
The problem with Sansa is that she could literally be played by a mannequin and a computer with a British accent. Dinklage gets all the good lines and most everyone else is left to work with scraps, with the actress playing Sansa getting absolutely fuck all to work with. The character has no agency whatsoever, only Theon has it worse.
And the worst part is that it’s not even believable, they’ve made Ramsay’s sadism so over the top it’s not even remotely entertaining. At this point I’m just like “oh it’s this shit again,” and fast forward to a different scene.
134 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 12:18:02am |
re: #133 goddamnedfrank
The problem with Sansa is that she could literally be played by a mannequin and a computer with a British accent. Dinklage gets all the good lines and most everyone else is left to work with scraps, with the actress playing Sansa getting absolutely fuck all to work with. The character has no agency whatsoever, only Theon has it worse.
And the worst part is that it’s not even believable, they’ve made Ramsay’s sadism so over the top it’s not even remotely entertaining. At this point I’m just like “oh it’s this shit again,” and fast forward to a different scene.
I keep waiting for Sansa to do something proactive for a change, like her little sister has. Instead, she just gets switched from one horrible situation to another by the people around her.
Just like what happened to real young women in history.
NOTE: I have not read the books, so if the literary Sansa turns into Xena, Warrior Princess, don’t tell me!
135 | goddamnedfrank May 18, 2015 12:26:08am |
re: #134 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
The whole thing is turning into a slog. All I really care about at this point is dragons burninating the countryside, Crows vs. White Walkers, Winter finally coming and Arya turning into a fucking goddamned super-ninja and killing every motherfucker on her list. Everyone else can just die right now and make way for that shit to happen.
136 | goddamnedfrank May 18, 2015 12:37:02am |
Penny Dreadful on the other hand is damned good. I’m not sure why Anne Hathaway even bothers continuing trying to act in a world where we have Eva Green, because the comparison is that unkind.
137 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 12:47:22am |
re: #135 goddamnedfrank
The whole thing is turning into a slog. All I really care about at this point is dragons burninating the countryside, Crows vs. White Walkers, Winter finally coming and Arya turning into a fucking goddamned super-ninja and killing every motherfucker on her list. Everyone else can just die right now and make way for that shit to happen.
Well, that’s the problem with multi-volume fantasy novels. Many characters, subplots and story arcs that for a lot of viewers/readers quickly bore them to tears. Tolkein managed to squeeze a lot of detail into LOTR, without bogging the main plot down, but even then, some readers give up the trilogy after a few chapters. I read The Silmarilion to get a sense of the “ancient history” of Middle-Earth, but he was wise to leave all that detail out of LOTR.
I got 3.5 books into The Wheel of Time series before I gave it up. Likewise, the Thomas Merchant (?) series (forgot the name and too busy to look it up — the guy with leprosy in our world who saves another world).
Creating believable worlds is an art and a craft, and I understand why some fans really enjoy being immersed in a new literary universe, and why some authors (and their publishers) are willing to cater to them. But jeez louise, can we move the story along a little faster? Can we have at least some hint of a final resolution? Right now, GOT is a confusing mess of political warfare and random acts of violence with no apparent end in sight.
That said, I still enjoy the series, especially the acting and the sets/costumes. I’m going to try reading the first novel again, and maybe I’ll get further than chapter five this time.
139 | Nyet May 18, 2015 1:14:49am |
Some white supremacists will even price racist merchandise, such as t-shirts or compact discs, for $14.88.
;)
140 | goddamnedfrank May 18, 2015 1:28:59am |
Apparently Chuck’s buddy Roosh went full on anti-semite: “The Damaging Effects Of Jewish Intellectualism And Activism On Western Culture” (donotlink)
141 | Dr Lizardo May 18, 2015 1:39:57am |
re: #140 goddamnedfrank
Apparently Chuck’s buddy Roosh went full on anti-semite: “The Damaging Effects Of Jewish Intellectualism And Activism On Western Culture” (donotlink)
Roosh’s screed can be summed up as IT’S THE JOOOOOOS, MAN!!
*headdesk*
142 | Nyet May 18, 2015 1:40:37am |
re: #140 goddamnedfrank
I liked it how before MacDonald went full neo-Nazi with his party, he sort of pretended (half-assed) to be a “respectable scholar”.
143 | Nyet May 18, 2015 1:43:08am |
Roosh on MacDonald:
Before opening this book, I wondered if it would turn me into a neo-Nazi
144 | Nyet May 18, 2015 1:44:34am |
Also:
Ironically, my parents were allowed to emigrate to the United States in part because of intense Jewish lobbying to loosen immigration laws. I probably wouldn’t be here today if it wasn’t for their efforts in creating a multicultural America. The neomasculine ideals that I believe are correct, and the traditions that I would want to bring back, would have likely prevented me from coming into existence and becoming an American citizen.
145 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 1:56:00am |
re: #144 Nyet
“neomasculine”? WTFIT?
146 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge May 18, 2015 2:03:28am |
Speaking of Roosh’s opinion on anything (yawn), over at David Futrelle’s place:
(I was going to embed the .gif, but it was too big, and I’m too lazy to reduce it this time of night.)
147 | goddamnedfrank May 18, 2015 2:04:46am |
148 | Romantic Heretic May 18, 2015 2:05:01am |
re: #55 CuriousLurker
So two more BASE jumpers died today. I really don’t get that “sport”. Why? Must be for the adrenaline rush… *smh*
‘Fight or flight’ introduces the same chemicals into the bloodstream as crack. The more extreme the danger the bigger the high.
Which of course means people with addictive personalities become addicted. This means they need bigger hits more often to get the same high. On top of that the highs (and lows) interfere with a person’s judgment.
So one day, SPLAT! Literally in the case of these poor sods.
149 | Romantic Heretic May 18, 2015 2:06:51am |
150 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge May 18, 2015 2:07:26am |
re: #148 Romantic Heretic
‘Fight or flight’ introduces the same chemicals into the bloodstream as crack. The more extreme the danger the bigger the high.
Which of course means people with addictive personalities become addicted. This means they need bigger hits more often to get the same high. On top of that the highs (and lows) interfere with a person’s judgment.
So one day, SPLAT! Literally in the case of these poor sods.
That’s what makes the Drug War™ so fucking stupid. The problem is addictive behavior. My drug of choice is food—you gonna ban that? With compulsive gamblers or daredevils it’s adrenaline—are you going to remove everybody’s adrenal glands?
151 | Backwoods_Sleuth May 18, 2015 2:10:14am |
re: #137 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Likewise, the Thomas Merchant (?) series (forgot the name and too busy to look it up — the guy with leprosy in our world who saves another world).
The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant by Stephen Donaldson.
He should have stopped with the initial trilogy. Every novel after that was bad rehashing.
152 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 2:12:04am |
re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth
The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant by Stephen Donaldson.
He should have stopped with the initial trilogy. Every novel after that was bad rehashing.
I think I read the first two, and maybe through half the third, then I quit.
153 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 2:13:55am |
The groundskeepers on campus are using gas-powered string cutters to cut the grass, and I swear it sounds like there’s a WWII dogfight going on outside.
155 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge May 18, 2015 2:15:00am |
re: #152 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
I think I read the first two, and maybe through half the third, then I quit.
I bought the whole trilogy in paperback, so I was determined to finish it, but man, that was a slog! The worst part was his misappropriation of words that I guess he figured most people didn’t know, and giving them absolutely unrelated meanings. Well, I did know them, and it was really annoying.
156 | Nyet May 18, 2015 2:18:31am |
re: #145 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Everything “neo” makes it sound cooler for the manbabies. Neomasculinity, neoreaction, neoconservatism (for the manbabies of that era)…
157 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 2:21:18am |
Well, it was six minutes into the first MSNBC news show that the Waco riot was reported on.
Six minutes. And this was a white riot, so let’s not lead with it. Nine people dead, 50 in hospital. 100 weapons (or thereabout) confiscated.
One [white] cop said in his 18 yrs of LE, it was the “worst crime scene” he’d ever witnessed. He said they were ready for them if more rolled in. The report also said that the restaurant had been warned to control their customers and that biker clubs had been using it for some time for recruiting purposes.
Play with fire, get burned. I’ll bet “Twin Peaks” already had a local reputation as a place to avoid.
158 | Dr Lizardo May 18, 2015 2:25:10am |
re: #157 Justanotherhuman
Well, it was six minutes into the first MSNBC news show that the Waco riot was reported on.
Six minutes. And this was a white riot, so let’s not lead with it. Nine people dead, 50 in hospital. 100 weapons (or thereabout) confiscated.
One [white] cop said in his 18 yrs of LE, it was the “worst crime scene” he’d ever witnessed. He said they were ready for them if more rolled in. The report also said that the restaurant had been warned to control their customers and that biker clubs had been using it for some time for recruiting purposes.
Play with fire, get burned. I’ll bet “Twin Peaks” already had a local reputation as a place to avoid.
In the UK media - from tabloid to respectable - it’s a leading story; maybe not the lead, but it’s right up there.
159 | Nyet May 18, 2015 2:30:15am |
Roosh isn’t even original, and I don’t mean in the “old antisemitic tropes” sense. A month or so ago somebody pointed out that he retweeted Steve Sailer’s Takimag article which expressed exactly the same idea (“Jews are turning against the golem they had created”). Roosh merely regurgitated it.
This is not “neo” anything, it is very “paleo”. It is interesting though how this antisemitism starts to look more pronounced in that “movement”. And this is why I noted that Chuck is basically at the crossroads between “neo” and “paleo” conservatism, and I think his “paleo” side will win out.
160 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 2:37:08am |
re: #159 Nyet
Roosh isn’t even original, and I don’t mean in the “old antisemitic tropes” sense. A month or so ago somebody pointed out that he retweeted Steve Sailer’s Takimag article which expressed exactly the same idea (“Jews are turning against the golem they had created”). Roosh merely regurgitated it.
This is not “neo” anything, it is very “paleo”. It is interesting though how this antisemitism starts to look more pronounced in that “movement”. And this is why I noted that Chuck is basically at the crossroads between “neo” and “paleo” conservatism, and I think his “paleo” side will win out.
UpChuck is stuck in an early adolescent’s view of what’s right and wrong.
161 | Romantic Heretic May 18, 2015 2:43:41am |
re: #137 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
The only author who has managed to keep my interest through a whole series is Jim Butcher in The Dresden Files.
I think it’s because it started in ‘our world’ and built out from there. Plus Harry isn’t perfect…
…the supporting characters are well done (Karrin Murphy, Michael Carpenter, Molly Carpenter, Susan Rodriguez)…
… the villains are well done (Johnny Marcone, Nicodemus and Deidre, Mask)…
…and the universe has become huge in a manner that makes me want to learn more (the scene at the Outer Gates was unnerving in its implications)…
…and all the various supernatural things that keep showing up yet don’t feel like they were simply dropped in to makes things cool (Winter and Summer Courts of Faerie, four courts of vampires (three now), Norse mythological characters, Greek mythological characters, The White Council of Wizards, the Black Council, the Grey Council, Knights of The Cross, the Denarians.)…
…the occasional jaw dropping shock.
Such as when Harry killed his lover in order to protect their daughter. In the same circumstance I’d have done the same thing.
…
…and sometimes absolutely lyrical writing. “But maybe I shouldn’t have been surprised: Even in Winter, the cold isn’t always bitter, and not every day is cruel.”
Whew.
So I’m still reading it after fifteen large novels.
Can you tell I’m a complete fanboy?
162 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 2:45:42am |
Sgt Swanton is the cop I saw on TV. This is a report from last night in The Statesman. He’s on video.
One thing about those photos from above “honoring” biker gangs. They often have “charity” runs to curry favor with the public and divert from their criminal activities. Just guys having fun, yo?
I never understood women who thought these “hyper-masculine” types had anything to offer them. Seemed more like masochism to me.
163 | Romantic Heretic May 18, 2015 2:46:17am |
re: #150 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
That’s what makes the Drug WarTM so fucking stupid. The problem is addictive behavior. My drug of choice is food—you gonna ban that? With compulsive gamblers or daredevils it’s adrenaline—are you going to remove everybody’s adrenal glands?
Shhhh! Don’t give ‘em any ideas! Semi/
164 | Romantic Heretic May 18, 2015 2:47:35am |
re: #152 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
I recall that I read them, and something about white gold and leprosy.
That’s it.
165 | Romantic Heretic May 18, 2015 2:56:15am |
re: #162 Justanotherhuman
Sgt Swanton is the cop I saw on TV. This is a report from last night in The Statesman. He’s on video.
One thing about those photos from above “honoring” biker gangs. They often have “charity” runs to curry favor with the public and divert from their criminal activities. Just guys having fun, yo?
I never understood women who thought these “hyper-masculine” types had anything to offer them. Seemed more like masochism to me.
Just so.
In Escape From Freedom Fromm couched D/s (Domination/submission) in terms of ego.
Both sides of D/s relationships, in his estimation, have damaged egos. The dominant strengthens their ego by absorbing that of their submissive(s). The submissive(s) strengthen their ego by being absorbed, becoming part of the gestalt that the relationship creates.
It’s more complicated than that (How does a snarly individualist like myself become a dominant in this scenario?) but I think Fromm was on to something.
166 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 3:05:51am |
re: #165 Romantic Heretic
Well, it’s also a start on the Calvinistic attitudes of the rightwing christianists as well. Those are m/f dominant/submissive relationships as well, no matter how much they try to “pretty it up”.
168 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 3:21:01am |
Ah, so…
Obama bans some military-style equipment provided to local police through federal programs - @AP
end of alert
169 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 3:25:49am |
WASHINGTON (AP) — In a surprise announcement coming nine months after police in riot gear dispelled racially charged protests, President Barack Obama is banning the federal government from providing some military-style equipment to local departments and putting stricter controls on other weapons and gear distributed to law enforcement.
The announcement comes after the White House suggested last year that Obama would maintain programs that provide the type of military-style equipment used to respond to demonstrators last summer in Ferguson, Missouri, because of their broader contribution to public safety. But an interagency group found “substantial risk of misusing or overusing” items like tracked armored vehicles, high-powered firearms and camouflage could undermine trust in police.
With scrutiny on police only increasing in the ensuing months after a series of highly publicized deaths of black suspects nationwide, Obama also is unveiling the final report of a task force he created to help build confidence between police and minority communities in particular. The announcements come as Obama is visiting Camden, New Jersey, one of the country’s most violent and poorest cities.
In previewing the president’s trip, the White House said that effective immediately, the federal government will no longer fund or provide armored vehicles that run on a tracked system instead of wheels, weaponized aircraft or vehicles, firearms or ammunition of .50-caliber or higher, grenade launchers, bayonets or camouflage uniforms. The federal government also is exploring ways to recall prohibited equipment already distributed. More
170 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 3:29:51am |
I can hear right wing heads exploding all over the place this morning.
Why do we have so much military surplus in the first place?
You don’t have to answer that, you know. : )
171 | Nyet May 18, 2015 3:34:13am |
So apparently there’s a slap fight in progress among manbabies.
Neoreaction luminary Mike Anissimov fully doxxes fellow comrade because he was called gay. He doth protest too much? pic.twitter.com/ia9Yj0VuFi
— Roosh (@rooshv) May 16, 2015
Unemployed homosexual “leader of #NRx” Michael Anissimov went cray. pic.twitter.com/Pcgr1lgS47
— SMR×???? (@NogiRx) May 16, 2015
172 | Nyet May 18, 2015 3:36:52am |
Idiots Not very internet-savvy folks at ADL didn’t close the comments.
173 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 3:43:16am |
What person takes his family to a known biker hangout/titty restaurant? This is how the Beeb reported the riot in their usual understated way.
Texas bikers in deadly shootout at Waco restaurant
“One witness said he and his family had just finished their lunch and walked into the car park when they heard gunshots.”
This guy didn’t notice all the motorcycles parked outside nor the personas of the restaurant’s clientele? Reports say there were 200 bikers in and around that restaurant and involved in the riot.
174 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 3:45:19am |
More than 150 people still detained after deadly shooting in Waco. @CBSDFW pic.twitter.com/o0x6JWalXX
— Arezow Doost (@CBS11Arezow) May 18, 2015
175 | Nyet May 18, 2015 3:47:54am |
re: #173 Justanotherhuman
What person takes his family to a known biker hangout/titty restaurant?
Honey Boo Boo’s mom would…
176 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 3:53:17am |
re: #175 Nyet
Honey Boo Boo’s mom would…
Yeah, another example of the decline of western civilization. So much shit, so little time. But I guess producers gotta produce, even if it’s straight from the garbage pile.
177 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 4:05:23am |
re: #161 Romantic Heretic
I’ll have to check it out.
178 | Nyet May 18, 2015 4:14:28am |
re: #176 Justanotherhuman
Yeah, another example of the decline of western civilization. So much shit, so little time. But I guess producers gotta produce, even if it’s straight from the garbage pile.
Decline? Nah. If you remember how “good” “lower” classes fared in the West in the previous centuries, it’s hardly a decline.
179 | Nyet May 18, 2015 4:22:41am |
It probably votes, too.
I get my news from @BreitbartNews & @DRUDGE_REPORT with commentary from @HouseCracka & @ChuckCJohnson. Because #MSM prevaricates endlessly
— MR (@mikerotondo86) May 17, 2015
180 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 4:30:49am |
re: #179 Nyet
It probably votes, too.
“Prevaricate” means “to tell lies, or speak evasively,” according to my Oxford American dictionary. I guess in his dictionary, the meaning is, “to say what I don’t want to hear.”
Considering neither Chuck, Drudge nor Breitbart cares whether they are truthful or accurate, he probably doesn’t understand the meaning of “lie” either.
181 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) May 18, 2015 4:36:00am |
re: #180 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
“Prevaricate” means “to tell lies, or speak evasively,” according to my Oxford American dictionary. I guess in his dictionary, the meaning is, “to say what I don’t want to hear.”
Considering neither Chuck, Drudge nor Breitbart cares whether they are truthful or accurate, he probably doesn’t understand the meaning of “lie” either.
CCJ is too slow-witted to prevaricate. At best, he can postvaricate…
182 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 4:41:41am |
re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
CCJ is too slow-witted to prevaricate. At best, he can postvaricate…
Mostly, he just ignores people when they say his reports are totally wrong.
183 | Shiplord Kirel May 18, 2015 4:45:51am |
re: #45 CuriousLurker
Outrage as Waco, Texas biker fight is compared to Baltimore - NY Daily News
More deaths, a lot less property damage. Matches conservative values perfectly.
184 | ObserverArt May 18, 2015 4:46:19am |
re: #173 Justanotherhuman
What person takes his family to a known biker hangout/titty restaurant? This is how the Beeb reported the riot in their usual understated way.
Texas bikers in deadly shootout at Waco restaurant
“One witness said he and his family had just finished their lunch and walked into the car park when they heard gunshots.”
This guy didn’t notice all the motorcycles parked outside nor the personas of the restaurant’s clientele? Reports say there were 200 bikers in and around that restaurant and involved in the riot.
I bet when they left the restaurant they all got on Daddy’s bike and Mommy’s Bike/Sidecar and high-tailed it out of there!
And then Daddy went home changed out of his church-going jeans and put on his good leathers with his clubs colors on his jacket and went back for some action.
Just a ‘modern’ America/Waco family.
The BBC just missed it.
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Morning! (I’m still turning on my 100 Pignose amps. I found an issue though. By the time I get the 100th on, the batteries are dying out in the first 20. Modern problems.)
185 | ObserverArt May 18, 2015 4:48:31am |
re: #176 Justanotherhuman
Yeah, another example of the decline of western civilization. So much shit, so little time. But I guess producers gotta produce, even if it’s straight from the garbage pile.
Straight from a local garbage dump to your home in seconds. Ah! Nothing quite like modern media is there?
186 | ObserverArt May 18, 2015 5:17:51am |
Hello? Anyone out there?
I didn’t break it…I swear!
187 | Timothy Watson May 18, 2015 5:19:46am |
188 | Feline Fearless Leader May 18, 2015 5:26:32am |
re: #98 Kragar
Abbott will notice when some nuts trying to be ironic hold a “White Lives Matter” rally/protest in Waco.
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189 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 5:32:39am |
re: #178 Nyet
Economically, sure. But culturally, we’re at a real crossroads, IMHO. This is what really matters. Look at Pres Obama, for instance. He can’t open his mouth before he’s attacked by the white male ruling class and those who accept their authority on all matters.
BTW, I must get a bumper sticker that says, “I brake for chickens” since one ran across the 2 lane hwy on my way back home, in front of a car turning on my left. Couldn’t see her until I was almost on top of her and had to really brake hard. Was taking her own time getting across the road, too. : ) ‘Twas a Rhode Island Red.
190 | Lord Of The Pies May 18, 2015 5:33:27am |
re: #189 Justanotherhuman
Economically, sure. But culturally, we’re at a real crossroads, IMHO. This is what really matters. Look at Pres Obama, for instance. He can’t open his mouth before he’s attacked by the white male ruling class and those who accept their authority on all matters.
BTW, I must get a bumper sticker that says, “I brake for chickens” since one ran across the 2 lane hwy on my way back home, in front of a car turning on my left. Couldn’t see her until I was almost on top of her and had to really brake hard. Was taking her own time getting across the road, too. : ) ‘Twas a Rhode Island Red.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
191 | Lord Of The Pies May 18, 2015 5:34:31am |
1st openly transgender officer in the IDF stands up against #transphobia #IDAHOT http://t.co/wdSstXFFEm
— IDF (@IDFSpokesperson) May 18, 2015
192 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 5:35:23am |
re: #190 Lord Of The Pies
Why do they come knocking on my door (that actually happened yesterday) and parading around my patio?
Spilled bird seed? : )
193 | Lord Of The Pies May 18, 2015 5:36:22am |
195 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 5:39:23am |
Is there a new “talk bubble” icon on the front page for this thread?
Y, yes, yes there is. Just next to the # of comments.
So, what is that all about?
196 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 5:43:05am |
re: #165 Romantic Heretic
Just so.
In Escape From Freedom Fromm couched D/s (Domination/submission) in terms of ego.
Both sides of D/s relationships, in his estimation, have damaged egos. The dominant strengthens their ego by absorbing that of their submissive(s). The submissive(s) strengthen their ego by being absorbed, becoming part of the gestalt that the relationship creates.
It’s more complicated than that (How does a snarly individualist like myself become a dominant in this scenario?) but I think Fromm was on to something.
I have that book -somewhere. I don’t remember a thing about it.
Guess, I’ll dig it out and peruse it again.
197 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 5:45:09am |
re: #134 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
I keep waiting for Sansa to do something proactive for a change, like her little sister has. Instead, she just gets switched from one horrible situation to another by the people around her.
Just like what happened to real young women in history.
NOTE: I have not read the books, so if the literary Sansa turns into Xena, Warrior Princess, don’t tell me!
Sansa is a useless twit.
198 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 5:46:12am |
re: #59 Aunty Entity Dragon
Really, really unhappy with
Fucked-up non-stop gratutious sadistic sex show on HBOGame of Thrones.The rape scene with Sansa after her wedding was just too damned much. The entire show has become who gets raped and maimed or who does the raping and maiming.
Ooh…and characters get killed because GRR Martin likes more dead people. And naked breasts.
he likes to make money - he writes what sells.
199 | Lord Of The Pies May 18, 2015 5:56:42am |
Oh uccch some birther just crapped up my timeline with HURR HURR OBAMA’S MOTHER MADE COMMIE PORNO!!!!!!
Muted. Blocked.
200 | Lord Of The Pies May 18, 2015 5:59:33am |
Not just regulor porno but COMMIE PORNO!!!!!!!
201 | Timothy Watson May 18, 2015 6:00:25am |
re: #200 Lord Of The Pies
Not just regulor porno but COMMIE PORNO!!!!!!!
Should I ask what’s the difference?
202 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 6:04:50am |
re: #198 FemNaziBitch
“Sex” (or as I see it, the exploitation of women) will always sell as long as there are immature males buying it without question, and women willing to participate in it. It’s just a continuation of the über sexualization of females in the market place. And from my POV, it isn’t true liberation when everything about being a female is ignored except her body parts.
203 | lawhawk May 18, 2015 6:05:07am |
re: #201 Timothy Watson
Should I ask what’s the difference?
There are givers and takers…. but since this is communist porn, there are only takers.
204 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 6:07:05am |
re: #198 FemNaziBitch
he likes to make money - he writes what sells.
More like what HBO wants to market, though Martin’s books are far from being G-rated.
205 | Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing May 18, 2015 6:09:04am |
Morning Lizards.
Let the RW shitfest start early today:
Obama to Ban Military-Style Assault Weapons For Local Police Forces (Gawker, not the onion)
President Obama will announce Monday a ban on the federal transfer of some military-style weapons to local police departments and impose stricter regulations on others.
The Obama Administration’s move to ban local police departments from using federal funds to purchase military-style weaponry, the New York Times reports, will come in tandem with a report completed by a policing task force assembled late last year following the civil unrest and “militarized” police response in Ferguson, Mo.
(apologies if this was discussed earlier)
206 | Lord Of The Pies May 18, 2015 6:09:07am |
re: #203 lawhawk
There are givers and takers…. but since this is communist porn, there are only takers.
Reminds me of the difference between “romance fiction” “mainstream fiction” and “literary fiction”
In romance fiction, two people want each other in the first chapter but don’t get each other until the last chapter.
In mainstream fiction, two people get each other in the first chapter and from then until the last chapter don’t want each other any more.
In literary fiction, people neither get each other nor do they want each other but the author fills up 500 pages of self-indulgent navel gazing.
207 | Feline Fearless Leader May 18, 2015 6:12:08am |
re: #150 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
That’s what makes the Drug WarTM so fucking stupid. The problem is addictive behavior. My drug of choice is food—you gonna ban that? With compulsive gamblers or daredevils it’s adrenaline—are you going to remove everybody’s adrenal glands?
Don’t give the liberal nanny-state any ideas.
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208 | Backwoods_Sleuth May 18, 2015 6:12:08am |
.@LindseyGrahamSC to officially announce 2016 decision on June 1; says on @CBSThisMorning, “I’m running because the world is falling apart”
— Norah O'Donnell (@NorahODonnell) May 18, 2015
209 | Timothy Watson May 18, 2015 6:12:59am |
re: #205 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing
Morning Lizards.
Let the RW shitfest start early today:
Obama to Ban Military-Style Assault Weapons For Local Police Forces (Gawker, not the onion)(apologies if this was discussed earlier)
The only weapons prohibited are those .50 caliber or bigger. Do they really think that the police need a M2 Browning or anti-material rifles?
210 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 6:13:30am |
Welp, Lindsey Graham was in Iowa yesteray, and from what I heard on NPR, he was really, really pandering to the extreme RW crowd.
One of the things he said, among many (and I’m paraphrasing here), was that if he were prez, anyone who even thought of joining ISIS or Al Qaeda would be shot.
Thought crimes, anyone?
211 | Feline Fearless Leader May 18, 2015 6:16:08am |
re: #160 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
UpChuck is stuck in an early adolescent’s view of what’s right and wrong.
Combined with chasing the grift flag where ever it appears to be leading. So he’s going to try to inject himself in every breaking news event until he finally goes over the precipice.
212 | Timothy Watson May 18, 2015 6:18:47am |
re: #210 Justanotherhuman
Welp, Lindsey Graham was in Iowa yesteray, and from what I heard on NPR, he was really, really pandering to the extreme RW crowd.
One of the things he said, among many (and I’m paraphrasing here), was that if he were prez, anyone who even thought of joining ISIS or Al Qaeda would be shot.
Thought crimes, anyone?
Those are okay, except for hate crime legislation.
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213 | lawhawk May 18, 2015 6:18:55am |
So, I caught yesterday’s shootout at the OK Corral (aka Twin Peaks in Waco), and all I can say is da-yam. 9 dead, dozens injured, and cops have now arrested nearly 200 on organized crime charges.
Here’s the thing. The same law enforcement that is blaming the establishment for allowing the gangs to congregate there in the first place are also the same law enforcement that knew that there was likely to be trouble in the first place, and knew that these gangs had crime activities long before yesterday. Yet, they did nothing to crack down or arrest those involved on criminal conspiracy charges before yesterday’s deadly melee.
It would seem to me that this was the Waco PD and other local law enforcement passing the buck on their own failure to crack down on these violent gangs - and then when they were around at the time of the shooting, they allowed dozens of these gang members (hey, would it be wrong to call them gang bangers given their violence, or does that apply to only those of a certain skin tone?) to hang around without arresting them.
Had those biker gangs been of a different skin color, I can’t help but wonder whether the police attitude towards the gang, the events yesterday, and who was at fault would be significantly skewed.
After all, the nearly 200 people arrested weren’t taken into custody last night. They were taken in this morning.
The police keep trying to make this about the restaurant, and not their own failings.
Something about this whole situation just doesn’t sit well.
214 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 6:22:14am |
More on that e-coli laced R dinner in Iowa.
GOP Presidential Hopefuls Serve Up Ice Cream, Cheese And Red Meat To Iowans
215 | Feline Fearless Leader May 18, 2015 6:22:24am |
re: #189 Justanotherhuman
Economically, sure. But culturally, we’re at a real crossroads, IMHO. This is what really matters. Look at Pres Obama, for instance. He can’t open his mouth before he’s attacked by the white male ruling class and those who accept their authority on all matters.
BTW, I must get a bumper sticker that says, “I brake for chickens” since one ran across the 2 lane hwy on my way back home, in front of a car turning on my left. Couldn’t see her until I was almost on top of her and had to really brake hard. Was taking her own time getting across the road, too. : ) ‘Twas a Rhode Island Red.
Did you figure out why the chicken was crossing the road?
(Had to ask)
216 | Timothy Watson May 18, 2015 6:22:53am |
re: #213 lawhawk
Well, you have to have something to arrest them for. Up until they started shooting, what law had they violated? Gang participation? Don’t know about Texas’s law on the matter, but you usually have to prove predicate acts to charge someone under those.
217 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 6:23:10am |
re: #211 Feline Fearless Leader
Combined with chasing the grift flag where ever it appears to be leading. So he’s going to try to inject himself in every breaking news event until he finally goes over the precipice.
His game plan is mostly only reactive. He responds to what other people cover or pay attention to, and some news stories he just totally ignores because he can’t find the right “hook.” So, days pass without any new posts on his so-called “internet newspaper” aka blog. He talks big about breaking stories, but somehow they either never see the light of day, or they fizzle out like wet firecrackers.
This is not a sustainable business plan for a “media empire.”
218 | Frenchy May 18, 2015 6:24:20am |
re: #198 FemNaziBitch
Don’t watch the show (well, I am trying to catch up on it, but still haven’t finished S1), but have read all the books, and Sansa is not raped in the books. I don’t think GRRM writes the show at all, although he may be consulted…not sure on that.
Ramsay Bolton is quite the disturbing character in the books, and there are some explicit bits there, but nothing that rises to the level of televised rape, IMO.
Anyway, to echo someone from earlier, I do feel sorry for Sansa for most of the storyline but truthfully she is pretty stupid and worthless.
219 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 6:25:10am |
re: #216 Timothy Watson
Well, you have to have something to arrest them for. Up until they started shooting, what law had they violated? Gang participation? Don’t know about Texas’s law on the matter, but you usually have to prove predicate acts to charge someone under those.
Does conspiracy to commit criminal acts sound OK? Obviously they had one or more UC agents involved with those gangs since the cops knew there was going to be a meet up and possible carnage.
220 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 6:25:13am |
221 | lawhawk May 18, 2015 6:25:41am |
re: #216 Timothy Watson
They knew something was going to happen, so charges for criminal conspiracy (RICO) would come into play.
And I get that police have to have reasonable cause for carrying out arrests, but the desperate measures that they’re going to to try and pin this on the restaurant suggests that they knew or had reason to know that there was violence intended (a criminal conspiracy), and they didn’t do anything.
I can’t wait to hear how many of those guns seized turned out to be illegal as well.
222 | Great White Snark May 18, 2015 6:25:56am |
re: #216 Timothy Watson
True in principle, but in many other places they seem to find a way. Broken tail light policing etc.
223 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse May 18, 2015 6:26:39am |
re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth
“I’m running because my buddy John McCain is too old and he says I should run.”
/
224 | Backwoods_Sleuth May 18, 2015 6:26:50am |
re: #216 Timothy Watson
Well, you have to have something to arrest them for. Up until they started shooting, what law had they violated? Gang participation? Don’t know about Texas’s law on the matter, but you usually have to prove predicate acts to charge someone under those.
Wondering who actually fired the first shots.
According to police, eight people were pronounced dead at the scene and one person died at the hospital. The injuries of those taken to the hospital ranged from stab wounds to gunshot wounds. Some had both.
Off-duty officers were on the scene, they saw what was happening, armed themselves and tried to stop the battle, Swanton said. “That saved numerous lives,” he added.
Officers shot armed bikers, Swanton said, adding that the actions of law enforcement prevented further deaths. It wasn’t immediately clear whether any of the nine dead were killed by police officers.
225 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 6:26:57am |
re: #213 lawhawk
So, I caught yesterday’s shootout at the OK Corral (aka Twin Peaks in Waco), and all I can say is da-yam. 9 dead, dozens injured, and cops have now arrested nearly 200 on organized crime charges.
Here’s the thing. The same law enforcement that is blaming the establishment for allowing the gangs to congregate there in the first place are also the same law enforcement that knew that there was likely to be trouble in the first place, and knew that these gangs had crime activities long before yesterday. Yet, they did nothing to crack down or arrest those involved on criminal conspiracy charges before yesterday’s deadly melee.
It would seem to me that this was the Waco PD and other local law enforcement passing the buck on their own failure to crack down on these violent gangs - and then when they were around at the time of the shooting, they allowed dozens of these gang members (hey, would it be wrong to call them gang bangers given their violence, or does that apply to only those of a certain skin tone?) to hang around without arresting them.
Had those biker gangs been of a different skin color, I can’t help but wonder whether the police attitude towards the gang, the events yesterday, and who was at fault would be significantly skewed.
After all, the nearly 200 people arrested weren’t taken into custody last night. They were taken in this morning.
The police keep trying to make this about the restaurant, and not their own failings.
Something about this whole situation just doesn’t sit well.
Sometimes I think law enforcement (or whoever pulls their strings) allow things to happen — for whatever reason suits them.
226 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse May 18, 2015 6:28:27am |
re: #162 Justanotherhuman
Sgt Swanton is the cop I saw on TV. This is a report from last night in The Statesman. He’s on video.
One thing about those photos from above “honoring” biker gangs. They often have “charity” runs to curry favor with the public and divert from their criminal activities. Just guys having fun, yo?
I never understood women who thought these “hyper-masculine” types had anything to offer them. Seemed more like masochism to me.
Do these biker gang dudes have jobs? Or is crime their living?
227 | Timothy Watson May 18, 2015 6:28:52am |
228 | Backwoods_Sleuth May 18, 2015 6:29:12am |
re: #226 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse
Do these biker gang dudes have jobs? Or is crime their living?
In the case of the Bandidos, organized crime is exactly what they do for a living.
229 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse May 18, 2015 6:29:13am |
re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth
One of the odder entries into the 2016 campaign. Although that’s not saying much.
230 | Dr. Matt May 18, 2015 6:30:41am |
An all out gang-war breaks out in Texas, but I don’t hear anyone talking about their genetic predisposition for violence, or their lack of integration with America as the reason for violence, or their race and sexual orientation as the reason for violence…..
I’m stumped.
231 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 6:31:57am |
re: #227 Timothy Watson
From the news reports, it was supposed to be a meeting among the different gangs to discuss territory, recruiting, etc. and the shooting arose out of an argument between two members.
Need more territory, need more recruits, to continue our criminal enterprises, basically.
232 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 6:32:30am |
re: #218 Frenchy
Don’t watch the show (well, I am trying to catch up on it, but still haven’t finished S1), but have read all the books, and Sansa is not raped in the books. I don’t think GRRM writes the show at all, although he may be consulted…not sure on that.
Ramsay Bolton is quite the disturbing character in the books, and there are some explicit bits there, but nothing that rises to the level of televised rape, IMO.
Anyway, to echo someone from earlier, I do feel sorry for Sansa for most of the storyline but truthfully she is pretty stupid and worthless.
ASAIK, at the end of book 6, Sansa is still as pure as the driven snow. Mentally she is still living in a fairy tale waiting for her white knight to save her.
There is one scene in the TV series that I don’t remember in the books. Sansa is leaving the throne room after being abused by the little tyrant and Dinkle inercepts her offering help and she continues on her path saying something like “he is my king and my love”. Dinkle’s character says something like “you may survive us all, little dove.”
I think that was a bit of foreshadow. She is still (as far as anyone knows) the sole heir to her family’s lands. Her other siblings are dead or living some life in the supernatural world.
all and all, I”m still rooting for Daenerys.
233 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 6:32:32am |
re: #230 Dr. Matt
An all out gang-war breaks out in Texas, but I don’t hear anyone talking about their genetic predisposition for violence, or their lack of integration with America as the reason for violence, or their race and sexual orientation as the reason for violence…..
I’m stumped.
Or even their IQ or SAT scores.
234 | wrenchwench May 18, 2015 6:33:07am |
That time I read a prepper magazine and realized I might be the threat they fear: http://t.co/dD2Rdby9Nw pic.twitter.com/2s8eMUq8bm
— Latoya Peterson (@LatoyaPeterson) May 18, 2015
235 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse May 18, 2015 6:33:34am |
Meanwhile, Iraq seems to be doing really well.
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236 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 6:34:08am |
re: #226 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse
Do these biker gang dudes have jobs? Or is crime their living?
Founding Fathers honored biker gangs. They are the epitome of Patriotism. They were a big reason we were freed from the Tyranny of King George and led the original tea party.
doncha’ know?
/
237 | ObserverArt May 18, 2015 6:34:25am |
re: #210 Justanotherhuman
Welp, Lindsey Graham was in Iowa yesteray, and from what I heard on NPR, he was really, really pandering to the extreme RW crowd.
One of the things he said, among many (and I’m paraphrasing here), was that if he were prez, anyone who even thought of joining ISIS or Al Qaeda would be shot.
Thought crimes, anyone?
You know, I thought no politician has dinged his own decent reputation more than John McCain. However, it seems his best Senate bud Lindsey Graham is in the process of doing just that.
The big question for me is how they can look at themselves and not say “what the hell am I doing?” I know we have new nuts like Cruz and Rubio, but they had no previous history to ding, They came in full-on nut.
Sure I know money is probably involved. But damn…integrity seems to have any price.
238 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse May 18, 2015 6:35:08am |
Always wanted to be in a biker gang named the Bandidos. But, alas, I ended up with a 9-5.
/
239 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 6:35:28am |
hmmmm, Lindsay Graham.
I can’t wait until the gossip rags get diggin’ into his past.
240 | Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing May 18, 2015 6:35:34am |
Lindsay Graham has lost his damned mind. Don’t think some oppo researcher isn’t going to dig into his lifelong bachelorhood. There’s been exactly ONE bachelor in the WH (James Buchanan), in the 1850s.
IDGAF, myself, but the 12 other clowns in the clowncar sure will. And the whisper campaign will spread.
Also, he’s all over the place on everything. The TP base will see right through his pandering.
241 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 6:36:41am |
Watched the end of Mad Men last night.
I wish the younger generation go into it more. I think the show did a good job of showing what life was like when I was young. This is stuff they need to know.
242 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse May 18, 2015 6:36:48am |
re: #240 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing
Lindsay Graham has lost his damned mind. Don’t think some oppo researcher isn’t going to dig into his lifelong bachelorhood. There’s been exactly ONE bachelor in the WH (James Buchanan), in the 1850s.
IDGAF, myself, but the 12 other clowns in the clowncar sure will. And the whisper campaign will spread.
Also, he’s all over the place on everything. The TP base will see right through his pandering.
Can’t believe John Michael Bolton’s Mustache looked at this aspiring field and didn’t want in on the fun.
/
243 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 6:38:35am |
re: #232 FemNaziBitch
ASAIK, at the end of book 6, Sansa is still as pure as the driven snow. Mentally she is still living in a fairy tale waiting for her white knight to save her.
There is one scene in the TV series that I don’t remember in the books. Sansa is leaving the throne room after being abused by the little tyrant and Dinkle inercepts her offering help and she continues on her path saying something like “he is my king and my love”. Dinkle’s character says something like “you may survive us all, little dove.”
I think that was a bit of foreshadow. She is still (as far as anyone knows) the sole heir to her family’s lands. Her other siblings are dead or living some life in the supernatural world.
all and all, I”m still rooting for Daenerys.
I’m waiting for the dragons to discover the fine eatin’ in Westeros.
And Arya to become an assassin.
244 | Feline Fearless Leader May 18, 2015 6:39:21am |
re: #243 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
I’m waiting for the dragons to discover the fine eatin’ in Westeros.
And Arya to become an assassin.
Sansa is probably the most like her mother.
// :p
245 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse May 18, 2015 6:40:59am |
So, to repeat, a lot American politicians don’t like Iran, would like to bomb them, maybe affect a regime change in Tehran. But we also don’t like ISIS, which is currently trying to take over Iraq, who we support. ISIS is made up largely of Sunni elements who heretofore ran Iraq, although they were a smaller portion of the population than the Shiite majority. Iran is also Shiite and has connections to militia in Iraq who might be that country’s only hope of holding off ISIS.
What could go wrong?
/
246 | darthstar May 18, 2015 6:41:39am |
@marcorubio @joshtpm Is this a plug for PNAC?
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) May 18, 2015
248 | darthstar May 18, 2015 6:42:51am |
From my twitter TL, it looks like Waco is still wacko.
249 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse May 18, 2015 6:45:22am |
“Presiding at Same-Sex Wedding, Ruth Bader Ginsburg Emphasizes the Word ‘Constitution’”
I bet FreeRepublic is not taking this well.
/
250 | Frenchy May 18, 2015 6:45:34am |
re: #243 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
If you read SOIAF and Arya is not your favorite character, you are just wrong.
251 | ObserverArt May 18, 2015 6:46:56am |
re: #213 lawhawk
—CUT—
Something about this whole situation just doesn’t sit well.
Nothing about this situation sits well.
Another thing that makes me wonder how the police handled this incident was their concern some of their own or people they know might be involved in these bike clubs and the activities in Waco.
Many years back, there was a road rage incident here in Ohio, just outside Columbus. Some bike club members felt they got cut off (while going nearly 100 mph) by some guy in a car and started harassing and buzzing him. The guy pulled over and it got into a near brawl on the side of the road.
It made the local media, and people were all upset by the bikers activity…but surprisingly, the bikers were more or less let go without charges by the Ohio Highway Patrolman that came to the incident.
It was later found out one of the bikers was an Ohio Highway Patrolman and one of the others was a Sheriff’s deputy from the county next to Columbus. Eventually the Ohio State Police decided to fire the patrolman and the deputy was suspended for some time.
I think I remember reading the ex-Highway patrolman later got another job in law enforcement in another community.
252 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse May 18, 2015 6:47:34am |
And his parents cut off his allowance…
“It was just one specific account that we wanted to have access to cash in the coming year,” Rubio said on “Fox News Sunday.” “Both because I’m running for president, but also, you know, my refrigerator broke down. That was 3,000 dollars. I had to replace the air-conditioning unit in our home. My kids all go to school and they are getting closer to college and school’s getting more expensive.”
253 | Timothy Watson May 18, 2015 6:49:47am |
re: #252 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse
And his parents cut off his allowance…
$3,000 for a refrigerator? For a replacement or repairs? Either way, it must be nice to have that kind of money to spend on a refrigerator.
254 | William Lewis May 18, 2015 6:50:11am |
re: #213 lawhawk
Something about this whole situation just doesn’t sit well.
Nothing sits well. Not the least is knowing damn well that if they had been black folks, the Texas National Guard would be patrolling the streets of Waco this morning.
255 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 6:50:43am |
re: #250 Frenchy
If you read SOIAF and Arya is not your favorite character, you are just wrong.
I haven’t read any of the books yet, but from the TV show, she and Daenerys are my favorite characters, with Tyrion running close behind them.
256 | ObserverArt May 18, 2015 6:50:58am |
re: #239 FemNaziBitch
hmmmm, Lindsay Graham.
I can’t wait until the gossip rags get diggin’ into his past.
Oh yeah! And what past is that?
/
257 | Lord Of The Pies May 18, 2015 6:51:50am |
HURR HURR THERE JUST A FEW BAD APPLES!!!!!!
The thug bikers in Waco are what give bikers a bad name. A lot of good folks who just love the open road have their hobby tarnished.
— Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) May 18, 2015
258 | makeitstop May 18, 2015 6:52:04am |
259 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 6:52:48am |
re: #252 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse
What, a $1K refrigerator just wasn’t good enough?
Let your kids pay their own way through college, like so many others must.
These are every day problems faced by just about all of us peons, but obviously, Rubio just doesn’t get it.
Does that refrigerator tweet? newscientist.com
260 | ObserverArt May 18, 2015 6:53:25am |
re: #249 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse
“Presiding at Same-Sex Wedding, Ruth Bader Ginsburg Emphasizes the Word ‘Constitution’”
I bet FreeRepublic is not taking this well.
/
I love her feisty approach to everything. Need more like her.
261 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 6:54:39am |
No doubt someone will step up to the plate and give Rubio some wingnut welfare for his expensive tastes.
262 | Lord Of The Pies May 18, 2015 6:55:28am |
re: #259 Justanotherhuman
What, a $1K refrigerator just wasn’t good enough?
Let your kids pay their own way through college, like so many others must.
These are every day problems faced by just about all of us peons, but obviously, Rubio just doesn’t get it.
Does that refrigerator tweet? newscientist.com
$3K fridge? What is it a Sub Zero?
I’m looking for a new fridge to replace my massive lectricity-gobbler that I bought in 1999. I wanted a KitchenAid but they are pricey, I think I will get a Whirlpool which has all the same features as a KitchenAid but half the price.
263 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 6:56:17am |
NOW: Chemical fire at charlton and Hudson in Manhattan. pic.twitter.com/eV1SEih7SW
— Tim Pool (@Timcast) May 18, 2015
264 | makeitstop May 18, 2015 6:57:31am |
265 | Decatur Deb May 18, 2015 6:58:41am |
re: #262 Lord Of The Pies
$3K fridge? What is it a Sub Zero?
I’m looking for a new fridge to replace my massive lectricity-gobbler that I bought in 1999. I wanted a KitchenAid but they are pricey, I think I will get a Whirlpool which has all the same features as a KitchenAid but half the price.
Whirlpool badges a “Roper” brand. We’ve been using one for about five years with minor problems (non-structural cracks on the shelf trim).
266 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 7:00:35am |
re: #264 makeitstop
What/where was that?
Manhattan. Chemical fire at a construction site.
Oh, you know. Just a giant #fire at a construction site on Charlton st making the air in Hudson Sq unbreathable pic.twitter.com/igECtroRYw
— David Ellis (@DSEllis) May 18, 2015
267 | Romantic Heretic May 18, 2015 7:02:15am |
re: #177 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
I’ll have to check it out.
Start at the beginning. Much of the emotion in the later books is because of what happened in earlier books.
Much like GoT I guess.
268 | Romantic Heretic May 18, 2015 7:02:57am |
re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
CCJ is too slow-witted to prevaricate. At best, he can postvaricate…
There’s a drug for that now.
269 | lawhawk May 18, 2015 7:03:34am |
re: #263 Justanotherhuman
That’s a couple of blocks from the entrance to the Holland Tunnel.
270 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 7:03:37am |
re: #262 Lord Of The Pies
I’ve had both Whirlpool and KitchenAid (made by Whirlpool). I like Whirlpool better; they required no repairs and lasted a longer time than KA, 2 of which broke down (dishwasher and washing machine).
271 | Feline Fearless Leader May 18, 2015 7:05:50am |
Good morning Lizards - hazy and 70s in Philly. Rain and thunderstorms expected to be coming through this afternoon with affecting the temp that much.
Had the neighbors over for dinner last night. Bacon-wrapped meatloaf, baked potatoes, and a tossed salad. Plus a nice Cabernet Franc Lemburger from a NY state winery.
Saturday afternoon was visiting the neighbors to drink beer and watch a hockey game. While I was unloading groceries just previous to that Chat Noir infiltrated into their apartment and ended up hanging out there as well for a few hours. He interacted pretty well with their cats, no hissing or fighting. Mainly him walking around sniffing things while one or both of the neighbor cats following him or otherwise watching him. (Neighbor cats are two female calicos younger than him, and considerably lighter as well.)
Neighbor cat interactions with Tuxedo Cat mainly consist of her hissing and growling at them. When there are visits Tuxedo Cat basically stays in my apartment, and in the bedroom if a neighbor cat visits.
272 | Romantic Heretic May 18, 2015 7:07:14am |
re: #201 Timothy Watson
Should I ask what’s the difference?
Bad production values in commie porno.
Which is saying a lot.
273 | makeitstop May 18, 2015 7:09:29am |
In other news, we ended up getting about 30 harassing phone calls last night, starting at 8:00 and going until almost 1:30. Private number.
I called Verizon and set up anonymous call rejection this morning (after having one of Suffolk Country’s finest come to the house and explain my options). But that type of thing is pretty unnerving, especially when you’re about to fall asleep and the phone rings again.
I definitely did not get enough sleep last night.
274 | lawhawk May 18, 2015 7:11:32am |
275 | lawhawk May 18, 2015 7:13:44am |
re: #262 Lord Of The Pies
If you’re looking for nonstandard sizes, you can find yourself with a more expensive fridge.
Samsung fridges are typically around $1500 for the French door variety, but that’s the 36 wide version. It is almost $1000 more for the 30 inch wide version.
They also make a 4 door fridge that runs to $3000 or more.
276 | sizzzzlerz May 18, 2015 7:30:12am |
re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth
The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant by Stephen Donaldson.
He should have stopped with the initial trilogy. Every novel after that was bad rehashing.
God, I hate those books. I read the first couple 20 years ago and I still detest them. Fortunately, I can barely remember the plot but I do remember thinking at the time, christ, this guy could use a really good editor. As the Austrian Emperor told Mozart, there are simply too many notes. Remove some of them. In this case, there was way too many words.
278 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 7:38:11am |
re: #275 lawhawk
If you’re looking for nonstandard sizes, you can find yourself with a more expensive fridge.
Samsung fridges are typically around $1500 for the French door variety, but that’s the 36 wide version. It is almost $1000 more for the 30 inch wide version.
They also make a 4 door fridge that runs to $3000 or more.
scratch n’ dent!
279 | Dr. Matt May 18, 2015 7:40:44am |
More stochastic terrorism from Fox…where is the librul media scathing rebuke? ….waiting
Former congressional candidate admitted to plotting the annihilation of a Muslim village identified by Sean Hannity and other conservatives as a terrorist training camp.
280 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 7:40:56am |
re: #276 sizzzzlerz
God, I hate those books. I read the first couple 20 years ago and I still detest them. Fortunately, I can barely remember the plot but I do remember thinking at the time, christ, this guy could use a really good editor. As the Austrian Emperor told Mozart, there are simply too many notes. Remove some of them. In this case, there was way too many words.
All I remember is the main character had leprosy, he ended up in some other world where he could be a hero, and really that’s all. Of course, I read them about 30 years ago, but a really good series would have made more of an impression.
I remember nothing of The Wheel of Time books I read, other than people riding horses from place to place a lot and some kind of special powers some folks had.
Actually, that’s the main feature of most fantasy books, since they typically are set in a pre-industrial, feudal world.
281 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 7:41:50am |
282 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 7:42:39am |
re: #279 Dr. Matt
More stochastic terrorism from Fox…where is the librul media scathing rebuke? ….waiting
he sounds nice . .
*spit*
283 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 7:43:00am |
Well, now.
Supreme Court rejects appeal to end state investigation into Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker’s 2012 recall campaign - @bpolitics
284 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 7:43:30am |
re: #280 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
All I remember is the main character had leprosy, he ended up in some other world where he could be a hero, and really that’s all. Of course, I read them about 30 years ago, but a really good series would have made more of an impression.
I remember nothing of The Wheel of Time books I read, other than people riding horses from place to place a lot and some kind of special powers some folks had.
WOT were addictive while I was reading them. 2-3 days out, I totally forgot them.
In other words, there were “something to do”.
285 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 7:45:00am |
re: #279 Dr. Matt
More stochastic terrorism from Fox…where is the librul media scathing rebuke? ….waiting
“Christian National Church minister”; it figures.
286 | Lord Of The Pies May 18, 2015 7:45:48am |
re: #275 lawhawk
If you’re looking for nonstandard sizes, you can find yourself with a more expensive fridge.
Samsung fridges are typically around $1500 for the French door variety, but that’s the 36 wide version. It is almost $1000 more for the 30 inch wide version.
They also make a 4 door fridge that runs to $3000 or more.
Our fridge space can accommodate EXACTLY 35.5”
We could probably get a 36” in there by removing the floor molding.
287 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 7:47:26am |
Hoods and Badges:2006 FBI Report Warned Of White Supremacists Infiltrating America’s Police Force http://t.co/BuK4E6FX4c via @@IfYou0nlyNews
— john osalvo (@jojokejohn) May 18, 2015
Imagine that?
288 | Dr. Matt May 18, 2015 7:48:03am |
NOT The Onion:
Hillary Rodham Clinton is running as the most liberal Democratic presidential front-runner in decades, with positions on issues from gay marriage to immigration that would, in past elections, have put her at her party’s precarious left edge.
Recall, dubyah painted Mrs. Gore and Kerry as the most liberal candidates ever.
Recall, John McGramps, OSarah bin Palin, and Mittens painted Mr. Obama as the most liberal candidate ever.
I love our librul MSM.
289 | ObserverArt May 18, 2015 7:48:33am |
re: #281 FemNaziBitch
Pope Francis: ‘Many powerful people don’t want peace because they live off war’
I wonder when the RWNJs will try to see if they can get the Pope and his messages blocked from American ears for being a bad influence on our awesome exceptionalism. After all, Italy was a fascists government at one time.
//
290 | lawhawk May 18, 2015 7:49:05am |
re: #286 Lord Of The Pies
I’m in a similar situation, but you’re supposed to have at least an inch clearance all around for air flow to the condenser/coils. So, we’re hoping to hold off on a new fridge until we redo the kitchen so that we can get the right size space opened up.
291 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 7:52:36am |
re: #284 FemNaziBitch
WOT were addictive while I was reading them. 2-3 days out, I totally forgot them.
In other words, there were “something to do”.
The main problem, aside from writers not having ruthless editors, is a fanbase that’s willing to read thousands of pages of detailed prose about worlds that don’t exist. As long as the fans are willing to buy, publishers are willing to sell, and often compel authors to keep churning out sequel upon sequel.
When I was younger, I could put up with that kind of indulgence to the fans, but as I got older, my patience with boilerplate fantasy waned. Hence, I lost interest in the first A Song of Ice and Fire installment pretty quickly. The TV series has rekindled my interest, though, as I have a sense of the overall story arc.
292 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 7:53:43am |
re: #288 Dr. Matt
NOT The Onion:
Recall, dubyah painted Mrs. Gore and Kerry as the most liberal candidates ever.
Recall, John McGramps, OSarah bin Palin, and Mittens painted Mr. Obama as the most liberal candidate ever.
I love our librul MSM.
Well, Jeff Bezos has control of the WAPO now, also. He claims he has no input, but you know the editorial board toes his line—his bottom line, which is to make bucks however they can.
293 | SteveMcGaziBolaGate May 18, 2015 7:55:01am |
Out of curiosity, was the Mad Men finale a good one? Not looking to spoil anything (I never got around to watching it) but as a finale, did it wrap things up or did it leave people wondering “what the heck was that about?”, like The Sopranos did?
294 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) May 18, 2015 7:56:42am |
re: #293 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
Out of curiosity, was the Mad Men finale a good one? Not looking to spoil anything (I never got around to watching it) but as a finale, did it wrap things up or did it leave people wondering “what the heck was that about?”, like The Sopranos did?
Only just watched the penultimate episode, which had already been partially spoiled by reading the media…
I watched first two installments of Game of Thrones and have not felt any great urge to watch any more.
295 | Lord Of The Pies May 18, 2015 7:56:45am |
re: #293 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
Out of curiosity, was the Mad Men finale a good one? Not looking to spoil anything (I never got around to watching it) but as a finale, did it wrap things up or did it leave people wondering “what the heck was that about?”, like The Sopranos did?
Wingnuts loved it:
#MadMenFinale was a tribute to advertising and capitalism. Everyone found fulfillment by making the free market work for them. #tcot #tlot
— John Berlau (@jberlau) May 18, 2015
296 | Dr. Matt May 18, 2015 7:58:38am |
re: #293 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
Out of curiosity, was the Mad Men finale a good one? Not looking to spoil anything (I never got around to watching it) but as a finale, did it wrap things up or did it leave people wondering “what the heck was that about?”, like The Sopranos did?
It was excellent. Very unique ending. The last five minutes were especially compelling as they the close the books on each of the main characteristics. The very last two scenes leaves a lot to the imagination, as I imagine the writer(s) intended.
297 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) May 18, 2015 7:59:25am |
re: #295 Lord Of The Pies
Wingnuts loved it:
Are these the same people who think “Born in the USA” is a pro-American song?
298 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 7:59:44am |
re: #293 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
Out of curiosity, was the Mad Men finale a good one? Not looking to spoil anything (I never got around to watching it) but as a finale, did it wrap things up or did it leave people wondering “what the heck was that about?”, like The Sopranos did?
I enjoyed it.
I thought they were very creative with the ending. It was satisfying.
299 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 8:00:55am |
re: #294 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Only just watched the penultimate episode, which had already been partially spoiled by reading the media…
I watched first two installments of Game of Thrones and have not felt any great urge to watch any more.
I avoided GOT for the first two seasons, thinking the hype about it would burn out. Also, I was in China away from easy access to HBO. Finally, I decided to give it a chance last summer. I liked it, and binge watched the first three seasons.
300 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 8:03:56am |
re: #291 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
The main problem, aside from writers not having ruthless editors, is a fanbase that’s willing to read thousands of pages of detailed prose about worlds that don’t exist. As long as the fans are willing to buy, publishers are willing to sell, and often compel authors to keep churning out sequel upon sequel.
When I was younger, I could put up with that kind of indulgence to the fans, but as I got older, my patience with boilerplate fantasy waned. Hence, I lost interest in the first A Song of Ice and Fire installment pretty quickly. The TV series has rekindled my interest, though, as I have a sense of the overall story arc.
I agree. I hate “word dumps”—pages and pages of unecessary description.
I’ve read authors whose “descriptions” are so well written, I can actually see in my mind’s eye) what they describe.
Most series don’t have such talented authors.
A couple of phrases that have stuck with me:
“A ballet of street sweepers” —Carlos Ruiz Zafon -Shadow of the Wind.
“The tigery shadows of the forest” - John Crowley - Little, Big
301 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 8:04:48am |
re: #299 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
I avoided GOT for the first two seasons, thinking the hype about it would burn out. Also, I was in China away from easy access to HBO. Finally, I decided to give it a chance last summer. I liked it, and binge watched the first three seasons.
Honestly, if it weren’t for Peter Dinkle, I wouldn’t watch any more GOT.
He makes it worth while.
302 | darthstar May 18, 2015 8:08:31am |
re: #298 FemNaziBitch
I enjoyed it.
I thought they were very creative with the ending. It was satisfying.
Joyce Carol Oats didn’t.
Joyce Carol Oates goes on epic 23-tweet rant about #MadMen's “uninspired” finale http://t.co/QenVhzG8MD pic.twitter.com/gHOMA2CEjN
303 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 8:08:32am |
304 | Higgs Boson's Mate May 18, 2015 8:08:46am |
re: #283 Justanotherhuman
Well, now.
Supreme Court rejects appeal to end state investigation into Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker’s 2012 recall campaign - @bpolitics
The Club for Growth is fighting tooth and nail to block this investigation.I thought that if you didn’t do anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about.
305 | darthstar May 18, 2015 8:09:39am |
re: #301 FemNaziBitch
Honestly, if it weren’t for Peter Dinkle, I wouldn’t watch any more GOT.
He makes it worth while.
I haven’t been watching GOT this season…saw the opener, but haven’t kept up. Figure we’ll binge-watch it one day and get back into it.
306 | Lord Of The Pies May 18, 2015 8:10:05am |
re: #302 darthstar
Joyce Carol Oats didn’t.
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Joyce Carol Oates, how is she even still alive? She must be like 130 years old.
307 | darthstar May 18, 2015 8:11:40am |
“Hey Harold we're sitting on the fence hurry up and take our goddamn pic-…” pic.twitter.com/42el6AIavK
— Johnny Knoxville (@realjknoxville) May 18, 2015
308 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 8:11:56am |
309 | darthstar May 18, 2015 8:12:17am |
re: #306 Lord Of The Pies
Joyce Carol Oates, how is she even still alive? She must be like 130 years old.
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310 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 8:12:39am |
311 | Lord Of The Pies May 18, 2015 8:13:43am |
312 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 8:14:22am |
re: #302 darthstar
Joyce Carol Oats didn’t.
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I never watched it, even in reruns.
I lived it and don’t want to revisit. A horrible era for women, generally.
I would have probably picked it apart.
313 | Lord Of The Pies May 18, 2015 8:14:37am |
Ben Shapiro is a walking pile of Stupids
America totally micro-aggressed against women by giving more money to a nearly all-female film featuring singing than #MadMax.
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) May 18, 2015
314 | dharmamark May 18, 2015 8:15:20am |
re: #313 Lord Of The Pies
Ben Shapiro is a walking pile of Stupids
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What does that even mean?
315 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 8:16:47am |
re: #309 darthstar
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Well, there you are, then. A woman of my own generation who lived through it as a young woman.
316 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 8:16:53am |
re: #310 FemNaziBitch
Scott Walker: I’m ‘The Most’ Qualified On Foreign Policy Because I Visited Six Countries
Well, shit, I got him beat. Plus, I’ve lived in two foreign countries. So, I can be secretary of state, for sure!
317 | lawhawk May 18, 2015 8:17:25am |
re: #310 FemNaziBitch
@lawhawk Looking at you Scott Walker.
— Ronald (@RRNvoetbal) May 13, 2015
And yes, Walker, we’re looking at you.
318 | Varek Raith May 18, 2015 8:17:26am |
re: #310 FemNaziBitch
Scott Walker: I’m ‘The Most’ Qualified On Foreign Policy Because I Visited Six Countries
Big deal, I stayed at a Holiday Inn!
319 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 8:19:41am |
re: #314 dharmamark
What does that even mean?
Disney movie about all-girl a capella group totally invalidates pushback against MRA complaints about kickass Charlize Theron in Mad Max movie.
Or something.
320 | darthstar May 18, 2015 8:19:46am |
re: #315 Justanotherhuman
Well, there you are, then. A woman of my own generation who lived through it as a young woman.
I just read through her twitter TL. She liked the show because Draper never grew - like so many people in real life - hence her disappointment in the sudden change at the end.
It’s always fun reading such interpretations by people who are well versed in critical theory.
321 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 8:20:09am |
re: #318 Varek Raith
Big deal, I stayed at a Holiday Inn!
So, vacationing on the People’s Dime makes him an expert on foreign policy?
322 | lawhawk May 18, 2015 8:20:10am |
re: #316 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Can he see Russia from his home? /
Seriously, I did a fellowship in Israel for 6 weeks, including interviews with former PM Sharon, the Israeli President at the time, and even met Bibi way back when and a few other MKs.
That’s a whole lot more foreign policy experience than Walker can claim. Especially since I lived in Jerusalem during that time. Saw everything up close and in real time.
But that’s like claiming I went on a cruise to the Caribbean and therefore am a foreign policy expert because I set foot in Belize, Mexico, Grand Cayman, and Honduras. And I visited Paris and Canada too.
323 | dharmamark May 18, 2015 8:20:26am |
re: #319 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Oh, of course… How could I have missed that?
324 | #FergusonFireside May 18, 2015 8:20:27am |
re: #293 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
Out of curiosity, was the Mad Men finale a good one? Not looking to spoil anything (I never got around to watching it) but as a finale, did it wrap things up or did it leave people wondering “what the heck was that about?”, like The Sopranos did?
I liked it. There was only so much they could do.
325 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 8:21:34am |
Greg Abbott sends TX guard to shadow US military while open carry gunfights occur in restaurants #Waco #UniteBlue pic.twitter.com/3Kaq1wpf6n
— David Samples (@NatureGuy101) May 18, 2015
326 | Varek Raith May 18, 2015 8:21:53am |
re: #321 Justanotherhuman
So, vacationing on the People’s Dime makes him an expert on foreign policy?
Seems like it.
We’ll need popcorn for the debates.
Lots of popcorn.
327 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 8:22:04am |
re: #320 darthstar
From what I know just reading about his character and the real life people I met like him, there would be no sudden epiphany, if that’s what happened.
328 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 8:22:22am |
re: #312 Justanotherhuman
I never watched it, even in reruns.
I lived it and don’t want to revisit. A horrible era for women, generally.
I would have probably picked it apart.
I DIDN’T EITHER, but the show is very good.
Young people need to watch it.
329 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 8:22:41am |
re: #323 dharmamark
Oh, of course… How could I have missed that?
I have a degree in comparative literature. It helps me decode the frenzied tweets of Little Ben and UpChuck.
Plus, I teach EFL students. Excellent training for a degree in cryptography, I think.
330 | Feline Fearless Leader May 18, 2015 8:22:50am |
re: #325 FemNaziBitch
Just need to spread the rumor now that one of the biker gangs are actually secret Muslims from the Balkans.
///
331 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 8:24:34am |
re: #327 Justanotherhuman
From what I know just reading about his character and the real life people I met like him, there would be no sudden epiphany, if that’s what happened.
He does go thru some growth phases. It doesn’t dramatically change who he is —but such things never do.
He grows, but remains himself. Which I think is true-to-life.
332 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 8:25:43am |
334 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 8:27:49am |
re: #332 FemNaziBitch
Kansas Republicans Attempt To Set $25 ATM Limit For Poor Backfires; May Cost State $100 Million
why?
Bank fees?
335 | Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing May 18, 2015 8:29:01am |
Looks like relations between the U.S. and Germany are in for a chill.
'Corvettes Are Better Than Porsches,' Says Vice President Joe Biden
“Now look — I realize no one ever doubts I mean what I say. The problem occasionally is, I say all that I mean. I have a bad reputation for being straight, sometimes at inappropriate times.”
“So here it goes — let’s get a couple things straight right off the bat: Corvettes are better than Porsches. They’re quicker and they corner as well. And sorry guys, a cappella is not better than rock and roll, and your pundits aren’t better than Washington pundits, although I’ve noticed that neither has any shame at all.”
Merkel’s gonna need some aloe for that sick burn. ///
336 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 8:29:19am |
re: #332 FemNaziBitch
Kansas Republicans Attempt To Set $25 ATM Limit For Poor Backfires; May Cost State $100 Million
why?
It clashes with Federal policy. And like all states, KS receives block grants.
337 | Higgs Boson's Mate May 18, 2015 8:29:26am |
re: #316 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Well, shit, I got him beat. Plus, I’ve lived in two foreign countries. So, I can be secretary of state, for sure!
I’ve also lived in two foreign countries - three, if you count Texas.
338 | lawhawk May 18, 2015 8:29:42am |
re: #332 FemNaziBitch
The law violates federal law and rules regarding TANF. That means Kansas would also likely lose a $102 million block grant.
But that law also would be a hit to anyone who normally gets TANF and uses EBT cards. By setting a $25 limit, you’re really setting a $20 limit since most ATMs don’t issue in denominations under $20. And if there are fees associated with getting out their money, they’d lose on every transaction rather than being able to take a lump sum amount.
It’s a back door tax on the poor.
Again.
339 | Backwoods_Sleuth May 18, 2015 8:31:43am |
One of these rolls is way too happy to report for duty. http://t.co/7KpAzBq4B6 pic.twitter.com/Y9ksEvp4u3
— The Poke (@ThePoke) May 18, 2015
340 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 8:31:46am |
re: #337 Higgs Boson’s Mate
I’ve also lived in two foreign countries - three, if you count Texas.
Now that you mention it, I’m from Long Island. Some folks west of NYC consider that to be a foreign country.
341 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 8:32:29am |
re: #338 lawhawk
The law violates federal law and rules regarding TANF. That means Kansas would also likely lose a $102 million block grant.
But that law also would be a hit to anyone who normally gets TANF and uses EBT cards. By setting a $25 limit, you’re really setting a $20 limit since most ATMs don’t issue in denominations under $20. And if there are fees associated with getting out their money, they’d lose on every transaction rather than being able to take a lump sum amount.
It’s a back door tax on the poor.
Again.
I honestly can’t think why anyone would think this is a good thing. So many poorer people pay bills in cash, why limit their ability to access their cash.
What is the twisted thinking? What, so they can’t buy drugs???? or shoes for their kids. To promote savings?
342 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 8:32:49am |
re: #340 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Now that you mention it, I’m from Long Island. Some folks west of NYC consider that to be a foreign country.
I’ve been to Texas.
344 | Lord Of The Pies May 18, 2015 8:34:25am |
re: #341 FemNaziBitch
I honestly can’t think why anyone would think this is a good thing. So many poorer people pay bills in cash, why limit their ability to access their cash.
What is the twisted thinking? What, so they can’t buy drugs???? or shoes for their kids. To promote savings?
Poor shaming, SO THEY’LL GO OUT & GET A JERB!!!!
345 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 8:34:38am |
346 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) May 18, 2015 8:34:44am |
re: #328 FemNaziBitch
I DIDN’T EITHER, but the show is very good.
Young people need to watch it.
I ignored it for a while, then started watching it out of boredom. It is fascinating as it starts in the year that I did: 1959, and I recall a lot of the details and events that it portrays.
347 | darthstar May 18, 2015 8:36:11am |
re: #335 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing
Looks like relations between the U.S. and Germany are in for a chill.
‘Corvettes Are Better Than Porsches,’ Says Vice President Joe BidenMerkel’s gonna need some aloe for that sick burn. ///
Right after Hillary’s inauguration, Biden is going to leave the ceremony in a cloud of burning rubber and black circles on the Capitol Mall.
348 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 8:36:40am |
re: #346 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
I ignored it for a while, then started watching it out of boredom. It is fascinating as it starts in the year that I did: 1959 and I recall a lot of the details and events that it portrays.
Yeah, it’s a good reminder. I forgot a lot of stuff I shouldn’t have.
349 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 8:37:56am |
All 4 categories today. Wheeeeeee . .
Station: Chicago Area (Melrose Park), IL
Joseph G. Leija, MD FAAAAI
Station Head(s): Joseph G. Leija, MD FAAAAI
Date of Pollen and Mold Count: 05/18/2015*********************************
Pollen & Mold Summary
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Trees: High Concentration
Weeds: Moderate Concentration
Grass: Moderate Concentration
Mold: High Concentration
350 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 8:38:43am |
re: #341 FemNaziBitch
You can’t save on receipt of $285/mo in TANF when you have 2 kids.
351 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) May 18, 2015 8:38:44am |
re: #341 FemNaziBitch
I honestly can’t think why anyone would think this is a good thing. So many poorer people pay bills in cash, why limit their ability to access their cash.
What is the twisted thinking? What, so they can’t buy drugs???? or shoes for their kids. To promote savings?
To punish and humiliate them for being poor and lacking in moral character.
352 | Backwoods_Sleuth May 18, 2015 8:39:32am |
Got a case of the Mondays… or maybe just sad that #MadMen is over. #MewseumMonday @CuratorialCats pic.twitter.com/csVz6J35ow
— William the Cat (@WilliamtheCat2) May 18, 2015
353 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 8:40:40am |
At least I’ve been to Mexico and Canada. Yes, they’re “foreign” countries, even if on US borders.
Hasn’t Walker? At least Canada, for chrissakes.
354 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 8:40:49am |
Taboola is based in Tel Aviv. I had no idea. And it’s announced a partnership with baidu.com to tap the 650 million Internet users in China.
355 | Lord Of The Pies May 18, 2015 8:40:51am |
Hello, Twitter! It's Barack. Really! Six years in, they're finally giving me my own account.
— President Obama (@POTUS) May 18, 2015
356 | SteveMcGaziBolaGate May 18, 2015 8:41:01am |
re: #341 FemNaziBitch
I honestly can’t think why anyone would think this is a good thing. So many poorer people pay bills in cash, why limit their ability to access their cash.
What is the twisted thinking? What, so they can’t buy drugs???? or shoes for their kids. To promote savings?
So they can’t buy steak and seafood.
357 | FemNaziBitch May 18, 2015 8:41:57am |
358 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 8:42:52am |
re: #356 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
No, they do that on food stamps. ///
359 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 8:43:50am |
re: #357 FemNaziBitch
This helps the economy how?
Teh poorz are using taxpayer money to buy filet mignon and lobster every week!!!
360 | SteveMcGaziBolaGate May 18, 2015 8:43:52am |
re: #357 FemNaziBitch
This helps the economy how?
Help the economy? That’s so cute! Teh poorz must not be able to buy steak and seafood.
362 | SteveMcGaziBolaGate May 18, 2015 8:44:20am |
363 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 8:44:29am |
This is how the economy really works. On one person’s word. How in hell it helps the rest of us is anyone’s guess.
Apple’s stock climbs 0.8% after investor Carl Icahn says he believes company is worth nearly double current price - @MarketsTicker
364 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse May 18, 2015 8:45:14am |
365 | SteveMcGaziBolaGate May 18, 2015 8:45:38am |
re: #363 Justanotherhuman
This is how the economy really works. One one person’s word. How in hell it helps the rest of us is anyone’s guess.
Apple’s stock climbs 0.8% after investor Carl Icahn says he believes company is worth nearly double current price - @MarketsTicker
I guess not that may people believed him
366 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 8:46:18am |
re: #365 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
I guess not that may people believed him
The day is young. And the future, doncha know. : )
367 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 8:46:32am |
re: #363 Justanotherhuman
This is how the economy really works. One one person’s word. How in hell it helps the rest of us is anyone’s guess.
Apple’s stock climbs 0.8% after investor Carl Icahn says he believes company is worth nearly double current price - @MarketsTicker
Icahn is a PITA. He was ragging on eBay to spin off PayPal for months, and finally got his way.
He owns about 1% of Apple stock as the 11th largest investor, according to Bloomberg TV just now.
368 | lawhawk May 18, 2015 8:47:16am |
re: #367 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Likely hoping to goose the stock prices to boost his own profits. SS/DD.
369 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse May 18, 2015 8:47:28am |
re: #334 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Kansas Republicans passed a law that would prevent welfare recipients from withdrawing more than $25 a day from an ATM.
370 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 8:48:25am |
re: #368 lawhawk
Likely hoping to goose the stock prices to boost his own profits. SS/DD.
More than likely.
371 | wheat-dogghazi-mailgate May 18, 2015 8:48:56am |
OK, sleepytime here in the Middle Kingdom. bbl
372 | urbanmeemaw May 18, 2015 8:49:30am |
re: #188 Feline Fearless Leader
I foresee a “GoFundMe” for “I Can’t Shoot” T Shirts in protest of law enforcement officials who deprived them of their constitutional right to shoot rival gangmotorcycle drivers.
373 | Higgs Boson's Mate May 18, 2015 8:52:10am |
re: #346 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
I ignored it for a while, then started watching it out of boredom. It is fascinating as it starts in the year that I did: 1959, and I recall a lot of the details and events that it portrays.
Those days are not sepia toned for me. In 1959 I was 11 years old and I’d already read Vance Packard’s The Hidden Persuaders. Antipathy was about all I felt towards ad agency people back then. The passing years have tempered my feelings to mild dislike.
374 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 8:54:56am |
This is awful.
SCOTUS grants immunity to officers for conduct in arresting person w/ mental disability, and doesn't decide application of Disabilities Act.
— SCOTUSblog (@SCOTUSblog) May 18, 2015
375 | Higgs Boson's Mate May 18, 2015 8:57:58am |
Meanwhile, back in Texas:
“Honey, I’m kind of worried: there are hordes of outlaw bikers in town and they’re all gathering at that restaurant.”
“To hell with that, we’ve got real worries. The US Army is less than fifty miles away!”
376 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 8:59:14am |
re: #367 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Heh. Remember that old commercial for E F Hutton, and I paraphrase:
When Carl speaks, people listen.
377 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) May 18, 2015 9:03:21am |
re: #373 Higgs Boson’s Mate
Those days are not sepia toned for me. In 1959 I was 11 years old and I’d already read Vance Packard’s The Hidden Persuaders. Antipathy was about all I felt towards ad agency people back then. The passing years have tempered my feelings to mild dislike.
I was a fan of MAD magazine, which was proud of its no-advertising policy. They also helped shape my attitude towards advertising and consumerism.
378 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 9:04:12am |
379 | Lord Of The Pies May 18, 2015 9:05:18am |
TCOT desperately wants this photo to not exist==>
Could you imagine the frenzied outrage if Barack & Michelle did this? #tcot #UniteBlue #lnyhbt #ccot @milesjreed pic.twitter.com/wEdyZi7x8E
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) May 18, 2015
It is an actual Reuters photo==> http://t.co/qEO61hz3r3 @thai_republic @SNetibutr @milesjreed
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) May 18, 2015
380 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 9:11:35am |
Unarmed, hands up. Sure, he was probably drunk, but he also wasn’t white.
Grapevine officer cleared in fatal shooting of Mexican immigrant
(snip)
Ruben Garcia swerved in and out of traffic, but when he pulled over on the service road, he raised his hands in the air, Garcia said. Clark ordered him to keep his hands up while shouting obscenities at him.
“There is about 3 minutes and 40 seconds of Clark swearing at him to put his hands up, after 2-3 minutes he had lowered them to his shoulders,” Garcia said.
Grapevine police confirmed the officer used profanity before fatally shooting him.
Domingo Garcia said at one point Ruben Garcia man turned around and puts his hands behind his back to be cuffed, but the officer ordered him to turn back around, Garcia said.
More
381 | lawhawk May 18, 2015 9:21:45am |
News Corp charity and Murdoch's son gave money to Clinton Foundation http://t.co/STEyoxHH6C pic.twitter.com/DPEDBmD5Ot
— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) May 18, 2015
So, Fox News and News Corp was in on it. /
382 | Backwoods_Sleuth May 18, 2015 9:28:00am |
Twin Peaks corporate office has revoked license immediately for Waco location following deadly biker gang shooting
— CBSDFW (@CBSDFW) May 18, 2015
383 | Lidane May 18, 2015 9:37:35am |
GOHMERT!
Gohmert on Jade Helm: Gov’t Must Not ‘Practice War Against Its Own States’ http://t.co/lGXGmIhWgB pic.twitter.com/4dDrJOPZKg
— Mediaite (@Mediaite) May 18, 2015
384 | Backwoods_Sleuth May 18, 2015 9:43:04am |
Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission issues seven-day suspension for the TABC license of Waco Twin Peaks restaurant where shooting occurred.
— Statesman Business (@aasbusiness) May 18, 2015
385 | b.d. May 18, 2015 9:43:44am |
Is this Waco or Jersey?
//
170 individuals that have been/are to be booked into the McLennan Co. Jail for engaging in organized crime— Sgt. Swanton #TwinPeaksShooting
— KCEN News (@KCENNews) May 18, 2015
386 | Lidane May 18, 2015 9:47:00am |
re: #384 Backwoods_Sleuth
That’s what you call a stopgap measure while they put together the case for a permanent ban.
Whoever holds that license is going to find themselves permanently banned from being able to sell booze in this state. I’ve seen bars get closed down for waaaaay less than 200 angry white dudes getting into a shootout.
387 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) May 18, 2015 9:47:37am |
re: #384 Backwoods_Sleuth
Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission issues seven-day suspension for the TABC license of Waco Twin Peaks restaurant where shooting occurred.
Because alcohol, not guns, was the root cause of the problem?
Because guns are a Constitutional right but alcohol is not?
388 | Teukka May 18, 2015 9:48:35am |
re: #387 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Because alcohol, not guns, was the root cause of the problem?
Because guns are a Constitutional right but alcohol is not?
DON’T TRY TO CONFUSE US WITH LOGIC!!!!!!!
Sorry, couldn’t resist… How accurate?
389 | Higgs Boson's Mate May 18, 2015 9:49:09am |
re: #385 b.d.
Is this Waco or Jersey?
//
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Wonder if the DA is going to push for a RICO proceeding.
390 | Lidane May 18, 2015 9:49:16am |
re: #387 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Because alcohol, not guns, was the root cause of the problem?
Because guns are a Constitutional right but alcohol is not?
Because they need time to go through the bureaucratic channels in order to ban the license holder for life.
391 | b.d. May 18, 2015 9:50:33am |
re: #387 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Because alcohol, not guns, was the root cause of the problem?
Because guns are a Constitutional right but alcohol is not?
The TABC is the biggest bunch of bully, do whatever they want to, above the laws, yahoos in the state, they put the Texas Rangers to shame.
392 | b.d. May 18, 2015 9:52:00am |
100+ motorcycles and 50-75 vehicles that still have to be taken away, many will be towed this afternoon because they're considered evidence.
— Ashley Allen (@AshleyKCEN) May 18, 2015
393 | lawhawk May 18, 2015 9:55:11am |
The clown bus has a new rider:
Bobby Jindal launches exploratory committee ahead of likely White House run: http://t.co/tBWoyCZeqD pic.twitter.com/gM198C8YmO
— The Hill (@thehill) May 18, 2015
The GOP field is getting worse by the moment. I hope it’ll last.
394 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 9:58:06am |
re: #382 Backwoods_Sleuth
More than LE was requiring (just loss of alcohol sales for a week, no mandatory closure).
170 people have been arrested on capital murder charges. Let’s see how many of those stick. Based on engaging in organized crime.
395 | b.d. May 18, 2015 9:58:13am |
re: #393 lawhawk
The clown bus has a new rider:
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The GOP field is getting worse by the moment. I hope it’ll last.
NEED MOAR CANDIDATES!
$5 to the first one of them who offers a different position on anything.
396 | Targetpractice May 18, 2015 9:58:39am |
re: #393 lawhawk
The clown bus has a new rider:
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The GOP field is getting worse by the moment. I hope it’ll last.
How “strong” can the GOP bench be if guys like Jindal, who causes pollsters to burst into fits of laughter when put up as a potential candidate, can seriously believe they have enough of a shot to launch exploratory committees?
397 | Higgs Boson's Mate May 18, 2015 9:58:46am |
re: #393 lawhawk
The clown bus has a new rider:
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The GOP field is getting worse by the moment. I hope it’ll last.
Jindal’s intransigence toward raising revenues for his busted-ass state government telegraphed his intentions long ago. The idea of running on his record as Governor would, in earlier times, be ludicrous.
398 | Lidane May 18, 2015 9:58:48am |
re: #391 b.d.
The TABC is the biggest bunch of bully, do whatever they want to, above the laws, yahoos in the state, they put the Texas Rangers to shame.
That and they have absolutely no problem shutting a bar down for a lot less. The state has raided bars here in Austin and confiscated cash registers for unpaid taxes. A violent shootout that had 200+ angry white dudes involved, and where the restaurant staff refused to let the police get involved until it was too late? Pfft. Game over.
399 | Targetpractice May 18, 2015 9:59:53am |
re: #397 Higgs Boson’s Mate
Jindal’s intransigence toward raising revenues for his busted-ass state government telegraphed his intentions long ago. The idea of running on his record as Governor would, in earlier times, be ludicrous.
None of the Republican governors, present or former, in the race right now can boast of their state’s performance.
400 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) May 18, 2015 10:02:02am |
re: #399 Targetpractice
None of the Republican governors, present or former, in the race right now can boast of their state’s performance.
But they can boast of how they have restricted abortion and cut education and program spending to a bare minimum!
401 | darthstar May 18, 2015 10:04:02am |
Bar/Restaurant called Twin Peaks? - I didn't even know they had mountains in Texas. #Waco
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) May 18, 2015
402 | Targetpractice May 18, 2015 10:04:57am |
re: #400 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
But they can boast of how they have restricted abortion and cut education and program spending to a bare minimum!
Yeah, that’s the other side of the coin, that while they’ve left their states a financial mess for years to come, they’ve established solid credentials as “conservatives” (read: unsympathetic assholes). So while the critics are pointing out that New Jersey’s credit rating is in the shitter, Texas’ economy is being propped up on the backs of the poor and disenfranchised, and Wisconsin is being sold off to the highest bidder, all three men will stand on stage and boast about how they’ve held true to their “ideals.”
403 | Lord Of The Pies May 18, 2015 10:06:40am |
@POTUS Please troll #tcot. https://t.co/OeWMmi9YYE
— WesleyZ3 (@50th_President) May 18, 2015
405 | Higgs Boson's Mate May 18, 2015 10:09:02am |
406 | Targetpractice May 18, 2015 10:11:43am |
So, I see the wingnuts still haven’t found an anti-Obama angle to the Waco story yet.
407 | Backwoods_Sleuth May 18, 2015 10:12:40am |
re: #406 Targetpractice
So, I see the wingnuts still haven’t found an anti-Obama angle to the Waco story yet.
Sure they have. It’s a false flag because Jade Helm…
408 | Lidane May 18, 2015 10:12:46am |
re: #406 Targetpractice
So, I see the wingnuts still haven’t found an anti-Obama angle to the Waco story yet.
I’m waiting for the IT’S A FALSE FLAG TO DISTRACT US FROM JADE HELM! angle. The RWNJs and Alex Jones idiots are slacking.
409 | Higgs Boson's Mate May 18, 2015 10:12:58am |
re: #406 Targetpractice
So, I see the wingnuts still haven’t found an anti-Obama angle to the Waco story yet.
“It was Obama, sending the Army in to take over Texas that got them boys all het up.”
410 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) May 18, 2015 10:13:01am |
re: #406 Targetpractice
So, I see the wingnuts still haven’t found an anti-Obama angle to the Waco story yet.
Liberal motorcycle gangs?
411 | Romantic Heretic May 18, 2015 10:13:28am |
re: #314 dharmamark
What does that even mean?
He’s like the Swamp Thing, only made out of stupid instead of plants.
412 | b.d. May 18, 2015 10:13:59am |
re: #411 Romantic Heretic
He’s like the Swamp Thing, only made out of stupid instead of plants.
The avatar of the stupid?
413 | Higgs Boson's Mate May 18, 2015 10:15:00am |
re: #410 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Liberal motorcycle gangs?
Chuck will prove, with geometric logic, that some Texans with the same names as the arrestees are Democrats.
414 | Lord Of The Pies May 18, 2015 10:15:50am |
re: #413 Higgs Boson’s Mate
Chuck will prove, with geometric logic, that some Texans with the same names as the arrestees are Democrats.
I thought that was Dim Jim’s gig (not that Chucky isn’t above stealing shit from Dim Jim)
415 | Lidane May 18, 2015 10:15:53am |
re: #405 Higgs Boson’s Mate
Now that has me pondering.
Case in point:
Twin Peaks is a half-step above a strip club and those dive bars you went to in college with the overpriced shots and the girls in bikinis selling beer at an ice tub.
416 | lawhawk May 18, 2015 10:18:47am |
re: #394 Justanotherhuman
The 170 arrested were not arrested on capital murder. They were arrested on Engaging in Organized Crime (essentially the state equivalent to RICO). And law enforcement admits that some of those killed may have been hit by law enforcement weapons.
Some number of that 170 could see the charges expanded to include homicide or other charges as the investigation proceeds.
The fight started in the restroom, spilled into the restaurant bar, and then spilled into the parking lot where the shooting began.
Restaurant officials claim that they were working with law enforcement before the incident occurred, which the police claim is a fabrication.
417 | Lord Of The Pies May 18, 2015 10:18:52am |
HERE IS ANN ROMNEY SHOWING OFF HER WHITE PRIVILEGE (you’re welcome)
Loved being part of Mitt's posse tonight. #CVfightnight pic.twitter.com/gBc89JFObV
— Ann Romney (@AnnDRomney) May 16, 2015
418 | Romantic Heretic May 18, 2015 10:19:20am |
re: #341 FemNaziBitch
I honestly can’t think why anyone would think this is a good thing. So many poorer people pay bills in cash, why limit their ability to access their cash.
What is the twisted thinking? What, so they can’t buy drugs???? or shoes for their kids. To promote savings?
The poor are sinners and sinners must be punished.
419 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse May 18, 2015 10:28:04am |
re: #393 lawhawk
The clown bus has a new rider:
The GOP field is getting worse by the moment. I hope it’ll last.
Oh c’mon with the ‘Exploratory Committee’. All the cool kids are just declaring.
420 | Dave In Austin May 18, 2015 10:30:33am |
re: #417 Lord Of The Pies
HERE IS ANN ROMNEY SHOWING OFF HER WHITE PRIVILEGE (you’re welcome)
Mormon gang sign…..
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421 | Justanotherhuman May 18, 2015 10:53:39am |
re: #416 lawhawk
My bad for remembering what the chyron said as the cop was reciting “capital muder charges”. He was saying the capital murder charges were a result of an organized crime conspiracy resulting in all those deaths.
The DA will hopefully sort it out?